The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 042 - Chuck Pagano Makes Incredible Debut

Episode Date: January 29, 2019

On today’s show, Pat welcomes one of his white whales. Former Head Coach of the Indianapolis Colts and current Defensive Coordinator of the Chicago Bears, Chuck Pagano, finally joins the show. He and Pat chat about the adjustments he had to make during his time away from football, the season he was diagnosed with cancer and he dives deep into his process to recovery. They also reminisce on a couple of their seasons together, and Chuck looks ahead to all the weapons he’ll have on the Bears defense (2:52-35:37). Later, Pat and the guys discuss plans for what to expect once they get to Atlanta, and Pat teases some guests that may be stopping by. Pat also recaps his weekend in Phoenix for the WWE NXT Takeover preshow, playing golf with AQ Shipley and Foxy, and how he had perhaps the best steak on the west coast. The guys also recap the Pro Bowl and offer a few enhancements, discuss the final few moments left in the weight loss competition, and Pat details his near death experience driving to work. Today's a good one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Today's a good one. We got old Chucky Pagano in there. Yes, Chuck Pagano, Coach Pagano, the defensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears, joins us for a conversation. He was my head coach for five years, four years, and we learned a lot about each other. And today we dive deep into his story of beating cancer, coaching, his life, and what he's going to do in Chicago. It's an awesome, awesome thing.

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but now you can see him as the defensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears. Ladies and gentlemen, former coach of mine, friend of mine, we traveled the world together, Chuck Pagano. That's a classic. I wouldn't expect anything but that from you. You're the best. I'm nowhere near as... Thanks for having me, bro. Hey, I'll tell you what. This is the big, what is it, white whale is what they call it? Yep.

The great white buffalo. This is the guest that was impossible to book, and now I got you on here, and I'm so excited to chat with you. Not impossible. You're a busy man. You're a busy man these days. Your life went from being a head coach for the Indianapolis Colts. Obviously, business and everything happens in the NFL. You separate from there.

You had the year off where in your press conference with the Bears, you were talking about basically you were just driving your beautiful bride crazy. Is that correct? That's it. Yeah. It was really – like I said, it was really dicey the first month and a half, you know, trying to adapt back into her life. And she wasn't having any of it.

You know, I was, you know, asking her things, and I was asking assistance at the deal, you know, office this that and the other and she finally just said hey time out time out i have a life i've always had a life i have a routine whether you believe it or not so you need to chill out is what you need to do and we need to figure something out or this ain't gonna work she's like listen coaching guy all right you're normally at the office for 14 15 hours a day i don't need to deal with your bullshit right now now that you're out of work right now. Is that correct?

Basically. You know, because like I said, we get up early. So you're up early. You do your coffee. You know, get your workout in. Maybe two, maybe three. Do some honey do's. Do the chores around the house.

Empty the dishwasher. Do some laundry run something you know run a few errands and it's only noon i'm trying to figure out what the heck am i gonna do till because we're there till 10 11 12 at night we said what's the rest this day gonna look like and that's where it got a little dicey what did you do you've been in coaching for so long so so long i i think it goes back like 30 years i believe you've just been coaching and grinding you find your way at the mountaintop being a head coach in the nfl then you separate what did you do with your time there when you weren't doing your honey

dues you worked with the nfl am i correct yeah yeah i did some consulting you know with the uh with the officials up there so that was kind of my football fix, Pat. A couple days a week I did that. You know, but 33 years and then having no team. First time in 33 years. And you know after playing, you know, high school and college and the National Football League for as long as you did, there's always that when you're done or you don't have a team,

you know, I understand always that when you're done or you don't have a team, you know, I understand now why guys get sideways and, you know, veteran players who play for so long and they don't think it's ever going to end. But I didn't have a team. You know, my family didn't have a team. My wife, my daughters, my granddaughter, we had nobody root for. And so that was a little bit different. But anyway, you know, like I talked about in the presser, I've said all along the three R's, reset, recharge, you know, and reflect. So the beauty of it was I got to do a ton of things, you know, with my family that I'd missed over the years.

You know, they sacrificed way more than we sacrifice because you miss so much, especially my, you know, my girls growing up, and Tina just did a phenomenal job of raising them, and basically raised them by themselves, so I got a ton of family time in, like I mentioned, you know, during my bout with cancer in 212, you know, one of my, the vision I was living, I was going to walk two more daughters down the aisle and dance at their weddings, so my youngest, Tori, got married. I walked her down the aisle. And you know I had my sweet Ferragamo's on. And you know I was dancing like a mofo, Pat.

I was getting it now. In my head, I thought of you dancing at that wedding. And I thought of your daughter just like this was the moment that my dad was was fighting for and you on a dance floor i mean you get loose out there with those old italian ass feet you know i can moonwalk with the best of them probably as good or better maybe than the great michael jackson you know but anyway so did that stuff check some bucket list stuff you know went to costa rica with tina went to the masters the wedding like i mentioned you know so uh did a lot of a lot of fun things played a lot of golf a lot of family time uh so again it was it was it

was a great time to just like i said just recharge worked out a ton you know i love that peloton by you and i talked about that right let's go let's get on you said you were doing two rides a day I just, like I said, just recharge, worked out a ton. You know, I love that Peloton bike. You and I talked about that, right? Let's go. Let's get on. You said you were doing two rides a day. Were you trying to fucking kill yourself out there? You said you were doing two rides a day.

Well, you know, there's a lot of time in the day, you know, and so when you have a lot of time on your hands, you're trying to figure out what to do next. You just go back downstairs and hop on the bike again. Okay, so was there ever a time during all of that where you thought your coaching days were done? Were you like, whenever you and the Colts separated, was there a time or any thought at all that, you know what, I might be done coaching forever, or did you know that you were going to come back into it regardless?

No, right at that moment, there was nothing that I wanted to do other than just get away from it. You know, that first week, two weeks, you know, but after, you know, I always knew I'd want to come back. I didn't care what it was. I didn't need to be a head coach. I just wanted to coach football and I wanted to get, you know get back on the field and be with the coaches and be with the players and the grind and the competition and the competing. There's nothing like game day and those three hours and five minutes and then those moments that we share after huge wins. That's why we sacrifice everything.

So I knew I always wanted to be back initially, you know, you say, well, you know, we'll see, you know, but it didn't take long, uh, being away from a path that, uh, you know, that I knew that, uh, I missed it. Um, missed it dearly and wanted to get back. Yeah. You're a football guy, a football lifer. And I asked you last week on the phone off air I said what is it going to be like not being the head guy anymore and in your press conference you you alluded to how it's Nagy's team and everything like that but you told me that you just miss coaching like you because as a head did you feel as like a head guy you couldn't uh coach as much because you kind of had to handle everything else that was happening and you hired coaches to coach is that something you missed whenever you were being a head guy yeah you you get pulled in

so many different directions you know sitting in that seat you know and you you know not never experiencing that before Indy uh you don't realize it you know and going to the owners meetings for the first time after I was hired in Indy in 212 and you know uh not one but you know almost every single coach you know that was their head coaches that have been through it already they all said don't get away from coaching as hard as that that may seem you got to stay but you get pulled in so many different directions and that's the one thing that you know being an assistant for 28 years before i got the opportunity uh in indian that, you know,

just because as soon as you get into a meeting room, Pat, you know, you've been there five minutes, knock on the door, and, you know, somebody's asking about, you know, this, that, and the other. So you do get pulled, you know, in a lot of different directions, but you do miss the hands--on there was a lot of times especially you know when it's stuff coming across your desk that you don't even want to look at and you don't even want to deal with it you just say man i wish i just was coaching the secondary you know why couldn't i just be you know tom mcmahon today why you know why couldn't i just

be at the you know just doing my own little deal with my own guys in the room and, you know, coach the tight ends and have three guys and Jackie Dwayne and Swopey, all those guys. And, you know, Dwayne, just, you know, just worry about those three dudes, you know. So I just, again, I just, you know, we love, we love coaching. We love being around the players. We love helping guys grow and the camaraderie of the whole thing and the competition. Chuck's great. We're about to dive deep, too.

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there's only 32 head coaches in the NFL. It's a very difficult job. Your first stint as a head coach, you didn't know what to expect. You were in a new city. It all kind of happened so fast. And then I think it was week five, maybe week four or bi-week, you get told that all of a sudden you have leukemia. So your dream has come true. You're a head coach now. You moved your family to a new city. Then wham, you get kind of blindsided by cancer. How did that affect, do you think, your entire rhythm of your first head coaching year? Maybe your outlook as being a head coach or on life or anything like that. How did that experience change you for the better or change you for the worse?

Either or. Yeah. You know, sitting at that desk after you accept the job, you go through, you know, the press conferences and all the TV, all that stuff that you have to do. I can remember vividly sitting in Coach Caldwell, you know, my office that, you know, Coach Caldwell's old head coach in office. And I was sitting at the desk there and it was just Tina and I in the dusted sandal we looked at each other said you know what do we do now what do we just do to ourselves you know and you know so I started

looking through the drawers and look for the head coaching manual there's no manual you know so you just take it you just take it one day at a time and you've worked and you've watched guys and you've learned along the way and I was around so many great coaches and and and you know head coaches and mentors and things like that but there's really no manual for it let alone like you said and you know we just lost that devastate had that devastating loss at jacksonville you know blaine gabbert hit cecil shorts you know we just took the lead 22 17 whatever and uh you know he hits him on 50 some seconds go right hits that 80 yarder and we lose that game you know and then i had had you know the bruising going on i had some fatigue but i just thought that was football stuff then i do some

blood work after that game and you know pat you know when the schedule comes out, you want your bye week to be somewhere middle of the season, right? Yep, late. Middle of the season. If guys are 8, 9, week 10, you're playing well, you're winning, you've got some guys dinged up, and it's great to have that more towards the middle of the season. And that turned out to be a blessing in disguise because I probably would have never gone in and got checked and got blood work.

So, yes, you get hit across the face, you know, across the head with a two-by-four, you know, coming off that loss with one and two. You're trying to navigate the waters and keep the team together. You know, so you remember we practiced Tuesday, Wednesday, right? You had good energy there, too, bud. Remember we took the team photo on Wednesday? Practice Tuesday, Wednesday, right? Yep. You had good energy there, too, bud. Hey, you had good energy. Remember we took the team photo? Yep. On Wednesday?

Yep. We had the short practice, and then all the coaches and all the players were off for four days. And that's when, you know, I got some blood work done, and then they said, well, your counts came back, you know, off. You need to, we made your appointment to go see an oncologist down at Cyber Cancer Center. And you're like, what? You got to be kidding me, right? Yep. Nope.

And make sure, and they go, make sure your wife takes you. Oh, shit. So you go down there. What's that initial reaction right there? Are you scared at all? Never, never scared. Okay. Never scared.

All right. It's just like, it's just like, why me? You know, why now? You know, you just get your dream job opportunity of a lifetime, you know, got a wife and three daughters and three granddaughters counting on you. So you're like, you know, can't be true. I never believed it for one second. So I sat in front of Dr. Larry Cripe, you know, said, you know, once I got down there, he said, I'm 99% sure you got APL, which is a form of leukemia. We're going to do bone marrow biopsy just to make sure. But there you go.

And so remember Robert Mathis after the Jacksonville game, he said, you know, you know, there's no pity parties in life. There's no pity parties in football. We'll man up, come in tomorrow, watch the tape and we'll move on and we'll get better. So those words kind of resonated with me right then, you know, when he told me that. And so I just said, Hey, I just looked at the doc and said, what are my chances? What are the odds? What's the game plan? What do I got to do to beat this? Oh, it was it on that day where he said, uh, it's going to be a fight. You're going to have to battle, but I think we can get you back in a couple months. And that was when you decided, all right, I'm going to be back by the end of this year.

Is that when you made that decision? Yeah, they, you know, he told me exactly what the, you know, induction phase was, what I was going to go through. I was probably going to be in the hospital for a month and then do some outpatient chemo for two more months. And if everything goes according to oil, you know, you could possibly get back, you know, but then you just take it, you know, one day at a time. But again, by, you know, I was at the right place at the right time. Great doctors, great support, great care and all that stuff. great support and great care and all that stuff.

And the way you guys played as a team and performed and, you know, I stayed connected, you know, because I had the setup, had the film, had the whole thing down there. So I had a distraction. You know, I had something, you know, besides my family and my daughters and my granddaughters, but the team, just watching you guys play and watching Andrew in the fourth quarter comebacks one after another, after another, that was my, that was the best medicine that I could ever receive. Just knowing that that's sitting there, you know, and watching,

they inspired me. And I said, you know what, you know, he told me what the survival rate was and it was high, you know, because of research. That's why we do what we do today. so we can help, you know, try to stamp out all blood cancers. But anyway, I've always had great perspective, you know, on things to happen. You know, that really taught me, you know, we know what the expectations are with our jobs. You know, we know it's a bottom line business.

You win, you stay. If you don't, you're out. If you're a player, you produce your, you stay. And if you, if you don't, you're, they move on. It's pretty simple. You know, we know life's tough. So as soon as you figure out that life's tough, it starts getting a hell of a lot easier. So I got great perspective. We keep the perspective we're coaching and playing a kid's game and and let's don't make too much out of it chuck strong foundation has raised millions and millions and millions of dollars for research to help what you had to go through help others that are going through what you're going through what was the process of the actual chemo and day-to-day were you watching

practice film in between getting chemo bouts and shit like that was that was that the day-to-day were you watching practice film in between getting chemo bouts and shit like that was that was that the day-to-day for you and how long were you in that hospital for so i was there 26 days and so right when they they did the bone marrow biopsy i because i tina picked me up to work i didn't have anything with me so i said well i'm gonna run home and you know get some clothes or whatever right and get my dog kit my toiletries and he's like no you can't leave I said well I don't have anything that's alright we're going to take your wife she'll go down and do the

paperwork get you admitted you got to go downstairs to the OR and get a PICC line put in and then they start pumping and then 30 minutes later I put in. And then they start pumping. And then 30 minutes later, I was in a room, and they were pumping antibiotics into me, steroids into me, and the chemo.

So I did that for 26 days in there and finally got into remission. That's when they let you go home. And then I did, you know, two more months of it at home. But like I said, they set me up. You know, I had a laptop there, you know, I hate these devices, you know, and the social media deal and all that stuff and dealing with you and the players and everybody, you know, tweeting this and tweeting that and Facebook, FaceTime, MySpace, my, my, whatever, you know, Instagram, come on, you know, but thank God for technology.

Cause that's how I stayed connected with the team. That's how I stayed connected with you guys, you know, and they'd bring me down the hard drives from practice. They'd bring in a, and you know, hard drives from the game. And when you, when I, you know, could see on the, on the TV, you know, Mr. We didn't have the NFL network at the hospital when he first came down. That changed, I assume.

Yeah. And he was like, you got to be able to watch the NFL football. Brother, you got to be able to see the games, brother. He was the best. And he took such great care of me, Pat. You know what a good man he is, what a great man in the heart that he has. I mean, he did everything for me, and he stood by me. There's no telling in that situation what a lot of guys would do,

but he took care of me, and he stood by me and had my back. And we didn't have the NFL network, and within 24 hours, everybody in that hospital had the nfl network such a move by ursa by the way that's one of the best huge huge huge but that was you know those days are set are it can become so so long and such a grind and you know all the things that you have to go through. And, again, mine was nothing compared to, you know, most of the people that I met, you know, that came in that hospital and on that floor and I've met ever since. But, you know, that's what got you through. So, you know, when you weren't sleeping 20 hours a day because you were just, you know, beat the crap from that stuff,

then you'd spend your time, you know, doing the football stuff. Well, I think that's beautiful that Ursae did that. I think that's the type of duty he has. So, I mean, we all know that. With this being said, okay, so your first year gets off to an interesting start. You have to battle against leukemia in the middle of it. You come back. Did you have to kind of resettle yourself into being a head coach? Like of find a refine the rhythm of the first few weeks there whenever you were because i remember when you came back we're going into the playoffs and punt was the first thing and you were like coaching again you're bald your your hair looked terrible obviously uh that was a bad moment for you with the hair the hair it was tough for you i know that was very difficult were you ever worried

the hair wasn't coming back by the way way, you have impeccable hair. Were you worried it wasn't coming back? That was never. If that was the worst thing that would have happened and you were healthy, then so be it. I wasn't worried about the hair. When you say impeccable, it's just good product. When you buy good products. Well, the hair always looks good. so we're going into the playoffs we somehow snuck into the playoffs right and it's the first practice back

that chuck is head coaching right again it's like he beat leukemia i thought it was going to be like this victory parade you know like hey i just beat leukemia i came back nobody thought i was going to do this punt period was the first period and i think the first punt i hit a shank or something and you're standing right behind me you're like let's go are we gonna kick the ball today or no i'm like hey cheer the fuck up man it was you were right back into like you were right back into coaching i was like this is beautiful did you have to re-find like the coaching rhythm or were you like you know what you couldn't wait to get back out and out on the field you know i i wasn't like just from a physical standpoint you know the toll that it takes on you you know so just your weight your strength all that stuff so you remember when i came back we did you guys just beat kansas city on the road we clinched the playoff spot. We were playing Houston the next week.

That was my first game back at home. Yep. You know, and I came back on Christmas Eve, team meeting, you know, and yeah, it was hard because you guys had so much success. VA was a rock star of all rock stars. The staff was fricking amazing. And, you know, go nine and three in those 12 weeks. was a rock star of all rock stars. The staff was freaking amazing.

And, you know, go nine and three in those 12 weeks, yeah, it was, you know, they asked me, what was the hardest thing that you had to deal with in six years as a head coach looking back on it? And I think coming back into that building, you know, and kind of reestablishing, you know, myself as, you know, you're the head coach, whatever. What a job that everybody did, and especially BAlishing you know myself as you know a you're the you know the head coach whatever because what a job that everybody did and especially ba you know yeah and and it's like getting your sea legs back underneath you so it was it was it was difficult but uh made easy by

by bruce the entire staff and all the players and then i remember you know houston you know they remember the media said you know hey are you going to play guys or are you going to rest them? Yeah, I do. I'm like, what? I just went through three months of chemo. I got myself into remission. And we said from day one we signed up for 16 games. By God, we're going to play every last one of those games.

It doesn't matter what the circumstances are. You know, and they said, well, you're going to rest guys. Rest guys? Are you nuts? No, there they said, well, you're going to arrest guys. Arrest guys? Are you nuts? No, there's no frigging way we're going to. Are you kidding me? I just, I wanted to do drop the mic, walk out. This thing's over, right?

We're done. So I think it was Doyle maybe asked me. Maybe he wasn't there yet. I don't know. I love Greg Doyle. But anyway. The local writers were uh interesting bunch to follow along during the chuck yeah they were awesome they were so good to me they were so

anyway um they were awesome hey so where was i so remember we're we win that game yeah and we get the ball we're up remember daisy cream oh yeah kickoff split the red sea and return that kickoff or touchdown and then we took like a two three point lead never looked back and then we held we we went on a four minute drill with night minimum nine minutes and 40 some seconds left in the fourth quarter yep and they handed the ball to vick bauer like all but one time 12 play drive nine nine minutes and 40 seconds to get on a knee. It was a thing of beauty. And won that game. I remember just walking out there

and I almost passed out. My legs were shaking. Because of all the stuff around, whatever. But anyway. Yeah, that was a huge... Very blessed to be back. And then we went to Baltimore and we lost that... You remember what happened to B.A. that morning?

Yeah, I got sick the morning of the fucking game bruce arians gets sick morning of our play we've had this incredible year incredible circumstances situations happen a lot of people be like i mean andrew luck is a rookie at this point with a whole new offense our head coach just beat leukemia to come back we were a hot team at the time too which is what you need we go back to baltimore where chuck had just come from you know big moment and then we get to the the stadium and uh bruce aarons is in hospital he's sick this morning like bruce is in the fucking hospital what do you mean bruce is in the hospital they're like i won't be here today i'm like wait a minute so we we ran into another speed bump there no it was crazy i mean go down to breakfast and i think just he gave i mean every ounce that he had yep right

to get to that point and he just he just fell out the wheels had come off and you know he had this vertigo thing going on this inner ear deal and you know i'm down at breakfast and then all of a sudden uh ambulance is pulling up and they're taking him to the hospital and you know grab clyde and hey clyde you're calling the game and great great great no deal that's good that's great we'll go we're good we're good we're gonna roll we're gonna go we're preparing for this right Right. Right. Right. Got a couple balls. Got a young quarterback. We'll be in a good spot. Right. Right.

You like these plays right here? Yeah. Those are good. Call the ones that get first downs and score points. That's what we need. I got it. Right. Right. For those that don't know, Clyde Christensen, longtime quarterback coach in Indianapolis,

coached with Peyton Manning for a long time, then Luck, and then he just went down to Miami, and I believe he's in Tampa back with Bruce. I'm not sure. Great. He's like a quarterback whisperer, though. Yeah, that guy. He's unbelievable and awesome.

And so, I mean, to go through all, like you said, we went through and then to get to that moment and be in Baltimore and now, you know, all of a sudden you're play callers in the hospital and you're worried like hell for his health and how he's doing and what he's doing and what is it. You don't have any idea. You get beat that day. We had a good run there, man.

I had six great years, and I'm grateful for those six great years and the relationships that were built and the games that we won and the moments we had. I mean, it was awesome. I was lucky to be a player on a team that you coached. I have a couple questions about coaching me. So do you remember – Are we about out of time?

We're right on the break because I got that meeting coming up. We've got to be sharp here. This will be quick. Just a couple do you remember whens. Do you remember when at the beginning of your head coaching run, I think it was after you came back from beating leukemia, maybe your second year, where I would score you on your team meeting speech in the morning?

Do you remember when I would do that? Yeah. What did you think of that? Did you hate it at all? All I was trying to do was— Excellent, excellent, excellent feedback. That was really good. And it was something that, you know, I started worrying about.

As soon as I was done with a meeting, I kind of wondered what I'd get on that one. I wonder if I'd leave—you know, did I get a six on this? Did I get a seven? Did we inspire anybody today? God, I hope Pat's motivated today. So we would leave the team meeting and to walk to the special teams meeting room. We had a team meeting every morning. And then to go to the special teams meeting room, he and I would have to share a hallway together all the way back to

like where his room was. His office was right by where the special teams was. So it was like a three minute walk every single morning after he just spoke for 25 minutes. There was like no way in hell I wasn't going to be like, hey, good speech this morning. I thought you really delivered that one well. It was just like a thing that just started happening but i tell a lot of people you're an incredible speaker like i think you could be a stand-up comedian if you wanted to you told us some stories in there that were just next level i mean next level i think whenever you retire from football if it's ever you should think about getting into the comedy circuit you deliver a story like nobody else well if i could do it alongside you i'd do it in a heartbeat believe me

all all i would ask you know i'm your you know i'm your biggest fan well you're a good guy i appreciate that one one final thing because i have to do this because it's a professional interview you're about to be the chicago bears defensive coordinator the defense is incredible they're loaded with weapons what are you excited about going into next year and what do you think is going to happen for the chicago bears and what are you going to do to make that team better? Just being a part of this storied franchise, you know, Papa Bear Hallis, the history behind it, the ownership, the McCaskey family is off the charts. You know, Coach Nagy, Ryan Pace, the general manager.

It's, you know, it's always been about people. You know that. And these guys are phenomenal. Built a hell of a roster. Had a great run. Coach is going into his second year. I love the culture. You love the city.

You love the fans. Everything about this place. And they've always been about defense. And last year was no no exception and when you look at it you know you look up and down the rankings and they were one in almost every category except a couple and those ones that they weren't they were two or three you know points allowed one turnovers one um third down one uh rushing yards one so on and on and on so the expectations are huge um that's why we do this

thing because we love challenges and you know so uh my job is to is to make sure that um you know we don't we don't have a drop off and the and the pieces that uh that we have on this roster and especially on the defensive side um it's a great team but there's a ton of ton of game wreckers uh you know on that side of the ball and as bruce used to call them five stars and you you got guys that can rush a passer you know mac and floyd and hicks and uh you know just just a ton of ton of guys eddie goldman up front and um the back end's got playmakers eddie jackson kyle fuller amukamora you know trevathian this young linebacker, Roquan Smith. And they've got depth.

And so there's a ton of pieces to work with. And my motto has always been wreak havoc. So that's what we're going to try to do. And we're going to blend a little bit of what they did, a lot of what they did, try to make it easy on them from a terminology standpoint. Add our own little twist to it. And put a premium on fundamentals technique do something better right yep just do the do the little things the detailed things better than anybody else and let these guys play and let their light shine and have

fun doing it that's the most important thing keep it like doing it keep it likable and learnable you said kill them mother kill easy have an incredible time i appreciate you joining me man the chuck strong gala is going to be a blast in may april may 9th may 9th you'll be hosting it and i'm so grateful for you for doing that hey no you don't know how much it means to me and and the kids and the research and all that all the money that we raise goes directly to research every every last nickel of it and and the research and all the money that we raise goes directly to research, every last nickel of it. And you're a huge part of that.

You have been and will continue. And I love you, Pat. Love you for life. You know that. I'd do anything for you, do anything for your family. And it was an honor being your coach. Well, we appreciate you so much. The millions and millions of dollars that you and your foundation have raised has been

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atlanta i want to know what are you looking for i mean your schedule it's packed i mean every day is packed what are you looking most forward to in atlanta yeah because you're back you're back with you know you're back in the locker room okay so atlanta is going to be awesome for us we have wrangler has ponied up for us to do this celebrity charity shootout at top golf in atlanta nice thursday friday saturday four hours we'll be there uh sporadically going live let me give a list of names that have been confirmed. Oh, boy. Not all, just some names.

Adam Schefter. Yes. Nice. Ryan Shazier. Love him. I love that. Let's go. Shay leave.

Let's go. Rex Ryan. Sexy. Mike Pereira. Yes. Love Pereira. Tim Tebow. Hello.

Jesus. Yeah. It's good. Ryan Fitzpatrick. I love Fitzpatrick. Tim Tebow Hello Jesus Yeah It's good Ryan Fitzpatrick I love Fitzpatrick Derrick Henry Nice Big D

I got a bone to pick with him I do too I'm glad you said that I do too How about you guys not talk to him though What is your bone to pick with him? Every year He's the guy

Every year He turns it on at the end You think he's going to be the guy You waste a pick on him And then he's only good for two or three games. He does have those games out of nowhere. What do you have, 200-some yards or something? Four touchdowns. Four touchdowns, yeah.

Out of nowhere, and it's always just like, hey, why don't we feed that guy? Why don't we feed the 6'4", 265-pound 4'4 monster? I don't know, but we've got a lot of people. By the way, many more names have been brought to my attention that are going to stop by we'll be going live on all of our social media channels and also our youtube uh which i'm not sure if that's social media or not but you get it and that'll be thursday friday and saturday the wrangler celebrity charity shootout the winning top golf score out of everybody will be keeping tallies of all the scores just like they do in top gear uh the show Top Gear for Racing.

The winner gets $10,000 to a charity of their choice in their name. Nice. By the way, tax write-off. I don't know the answer to this, yes or no, though. Yes or no, be honest. Go ahead. You got a big name tucked away, don't you? Yeah, yeah, there's a pretty huge person coming through.

Yes, sir. There's a pretty large person coming through. It's pretty cool. I'm excited for it. And we'll just be popping in live there on your social media. Just follow along Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Should do pretty well. Also, I'm filming a show for DAZN during the week, Thursday, Friday, Saturday as well.

So DAZN is an app that we mocked for their terrible commercial. Yes, we did. I think the world did, though. I think the world did. And they want to know if I could do a show potentially daily for them down the road so we're going to film three shows with some of the guests that we have and uh see how it works on the zone app the zone app is free by the way so the shows that i put together will be free on the app thursday friday saturday i'm excited to see all the top golf whole thing

happens at top yeah they're setting up a whole set basically. A state for the Zone show. They're setting up a whole set at Topgolf. Good deal. And then the Wrangler Celebrity Charity shootout is happening in a bay, obviously, that we'll be filming in a pretty awesome way. We're going to have a pretty good little film set up there. Real investment here by Wrangler going live on all social media channels

and Foxy will be creating a recap vlog each evening. Just like last year year we'll be down the super bowl inside the super bowl basically having a good time i can't wait for it and i'm buying dinner for everybody everybody at the okay cafe if we have time what is that okay cafe yeah only the finest meat and three in all the land what is a meat and three southern cooking at its best pick your meat pick three sides and let it roll. Did you just get paid for that? I think so. It sounded like that.

I'll take everybody to Buffalo Wild Wings. By the way, we're all banking on Buffalo Wild Wings. Free wings for America if this game goes to overtime. That is beautiful. They are saying if the game goes to overtime, if we get a little bit extra football,

everybody in America gets a free thing of wings. Nice. It's awesome. Darren Revelle tweeted it out and read out small print, fine print. Hey, Darren Revelle, we don't need people knowing it's just a snack size of free wings. That's all you need. It's a fucking free wing.

It's free. What do you want? Well, whenever you tweet out about Nike or New Air, do you say these things were made in a sweatshop in China, you motherfucker? I'm not trying to put anybody out of business. Hey, Darren Revelle. I follow along with Darren Revelle,

but then whenever he puts out something I'm a part of and then reads the fine print in a tweet, you only have a certain amount of characters. We don't need you putting fine print. Hey, you give me one free wing, I'm happy. I just appreciate the sentiment. Well, it is free wings. It's free wings is the headline.

Good game for an overtime, though. Both offenses can score at any time. Yeah. Perfect. A late game comeback is definitely possible with both teams. All you've got to do is next stroke or best stroke. Any of them can get hot. I'm excited

for it. If it gets overtime, though, I think we all agree with who we're going with. Do we all agree with who we're going with for the game in general? Yeah. Everybody is on the Patriots. What? That kind of scares me. I'm on it hard. I'm all in. Me too. Especially after he started

the We're Still Here chant at the pep rally that had what seemed to be 200,000 people to send them to the Super Bowl. Then they hop on a plane that they bought

two years ago on their own plane down there. The Patriots, Patriots are just good. It seems as if Tom Brady feels younger than he's ever felt in his life.

He feels healthy. He said there's 0% chance this is his last game. He's definitely coming back. They're just in the middle of their dynasty, they're saying and thinking and acting. We're just here for it. Wade Phillips, boys, just hear me out. He's a thief in a good way. He will take a team's defense that shut down a high-scoring offense

and duplicate that on game day. So nobody has seen this offense from the Patriots? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. People have seen it, but I'm going back to Week 15. 17-10 loss to the Steelers in Pittsburgh. Ten points on the board. That's all they allowed. Okay, that was before their running game has exploded.

That was before Tom Brady's knee got healthy. That was before I think Gronk was trying. I don't think anybody has been able... I mean, Chargers haven't. Chiefs didn't. Yeah. I think this offense has transformed into something that is something different than it's been all fucking year.

Wade Phillips is a great defensive coordinator, but I'm not going to bet my life on him stopping Tom Brady. I'll tell you what, Wade Phillips looked good, though. Wade Phillips looked good. That was his old man's hat, he said. I respect old bum Phillips. Respect. By the way, after hearing what Chuck said today

about how hard it is being out of coaching, I don't think Bill Belichick is ever going to be done. Well, look, Paterno died. I don't think he'll ever be done. Bruce Arians came back. No one can stop. Those guys are lunatics. Well, the coaches are like football guys.

That's what they are. They're in the office all day, every day. Their life revolves around breaking down film. Their life revolves around hopefully making a player better. That is all they care about and know. Their family knows. So you can take a break, I guess. But Chuck was very adamant about it. About a week into it, I knew that I was going to get back in however I could,

whenever I could. And his wife did as well. Tina, she knew as well. I'm excited for the Super Bowl, man. We're going to have a lot of fun down there in Atlanta, down there at Topgolf with Wrangler. Buffalo Wild Wings in DAZN. That should be a blast.

I sound like a fucking NASCAR driver. It's going to be a lot of fun. Still got two podcasts coming. This is still going to come out Tuesday and Thursday. You'll still hear us. But we're going to be located in Hot Atlanta. I'm excited to see who we get on the podcast. How was your weekend?

Did you do a show? Yeah, shows were great. I didn't eat, so I just stayed to myself in my room. My lady was pretty cool about it. Somebody took us out to eat. It was the last on Sunday. I had a friend down there, and he wanted to take everybody out to eat to this fancy-ass fucking fish place. And they had oysters, like 17 different kinds of oysters laid out on the table.

It was like a seafood luau. And I was like, oh, what the fuck are we doing? Marnie ate the hell out of it? Oh, yeah. She ate the hell out of it. I just drank coffee the entire time. I like that. You took the lead. You lost another 3.2 pounds. I just drank coffee the entire time. I like that. You took the lead.

You lost another 3.2 pounds. That's incredible that you've been able to do that. Zito is promising he's going to lose 10 pounds this week. He's moved into second place. I don't know how he's going to do it. No idea. I don't know. It's just going to be a battle, dude.

I mean, he's doing great. He's fucking sticking to his guns. He gained weight over the weekend, but he said that's because he had a couple soups over the weekend that might have had sugar and salt inside of them that he didn't know about. It's going to be a fun week, man. It is. It's going to be a fun week. Down to the wire.

So we got the final weigh-in for $9,999.99 on Friday from the Super Bowl. We got the final weigh-in. We got DAZN. We got Wrangler. We got Buffalo Wild Wings. We got a podcast. Tebow. Possibly Tim Tebow.

Chapter. It's going to be an awesome, awesome, awesome week. Can't wait. And we just followed up another awesome weekend, man. Arizona was dope. Incredible weekend, man. Incredible weekend for Foxy and I. It was.

We traveled out to the goddamn desert. Play a little golf game there. Stop there. Stop right there. Okay, let's talk about it. Right there. Yeah, let's talk about it. I know you had a huge weekend.

Yep. We saw NXT. We saw everything. It was wonderful. Yep. But to chip in for a huge weekend. We saw NXT. We saw everything. It was wonderful. But to chip in for par on Friday, that's where it starts and stops with me. Explain that. Okay, so the golf round was an interesting one. It was incredible.

So we travel out to Phoenix on Thursday night. I didn't have any meetings with WWE folks until Friday afternoon. So we had Friday morning open. This is where Alan Quay Shipley lives. He resides in the desert. The place is the fucking desert, too, by the way. First time there. I didn't.

Literally the desert. My first time traveling around. And whenever we left the hotel to go to the golf course, you have to leave a little bit. We went into the bottom of the attic mountains art something attica that sounds right the attica sounds right a lot of rich this is i guess where the the yuppies of the yuppies live yeah so we drive there from our hotel which is downtown phoenix and the place looks like it's in the 70s because the sand blows on everything so if you have a brand new pristine sign for a restaurant that shit looks like it's

it's probably 45 years old because there's just sand getting blown on it so we're driving through there they live like the navajo they live they live like the navajo they got like mud it's like it's a different type of adobe adobe it's a completely different style of house i mean they're nice let's not get crazy but it's nothing like i've really seen before so it's like it's a bit of a culture show this is these motherfuckers really living in there's homeless people out there that's the worst place i could have the fucking desert you're gonna be a homeless person in the desert i don't even know how that happens i guess within the last like uh 10 15 years maybe phoenix has risen to the top five populated city in the country. Yeah, yeah.

I think it's number four right now. Just 10 years ago, it was not like that. So it's all kind of fast growing. It's trying to keep up. It's trying to catch up. And it's a beautiful, like I'm going to be honest, downtown was very nice. Awesome.

The people were incredible. A lot of fans out there. So many fans. Probably the most fans we've ever been to any place. Any place we've ever been. Wow. Great to know. Most fans. You're big out there so many fans probably the most fans we've ever been to any place any place we've ever been wow great to know most fans were where we're big out there big very nice big like it was in new york city i could walk around probably once every four to five minutes i could stop right for probably four to seven minutes depending on where i get like a hello or a stop or whatever

phoenix was probably once every two minutes whenever we were walking out there just like somebody yelling randomly yep and it wasn't i guess there's a lot of wwe people in town so they knew me as well right but it's a lot of people that are just fans of the show like yo big fans of the show i'm like thank you thank you that actually the place where we ran into uh cory graves and sam roberts and a couple people after the takeover right by our hotel the owner's son was like a diehard fan. So I look like this big swinging dick in front of Corey Graves and everybody. The kid came out like, I don't want to say shaking, but he was very excited.

No, he was pumped. I was like, yo. And his dad was like, oh, this is my place, my kid. Because we came in right at their closing time almost, just to stop for five, ten minutes to talk to Corey. And the kid came. I think he showed up whenever he heard I was there. It was was a really we got to get to phoenix we gotta go do a show awesome people awesome they're really good people too the people are very nice so we

had to go golf with aq though it's his town aq and i golf a lot this is what we did so we get into arizona country club nice nice very it's about three bills over there it's three four it's three four bills 45 grand to become a member there oh yeah 45 grand to become a member there then a thousand a month and then there's other stuff i did the i did some questioning afterwards i've never really done a country club before so i've never done the country club thing before it's not really my type of thing to be honest i probably mocked it many times i probably mocked people that i mean i mock foxy just for potentially being a part of one and now that i got to experience it i understand why these

rich people do the country club thing oh yeah we showed up to this place and it was incredible i had a sleeveless on i only packed i didn't pack my sleeves of course as soon as we walk in there's a guy that's like um excuse me where are you guys trying to go excuse me what's going on so they take us down to the pro shop we're like we're checking in aq's like i'm an unaccompanied guest here like aq is not even a member of that country club no his golf pro at his place got us into there unaccompanied because aq bullied these people into not having to have a guest because i guess normally a guest has to have you in. You're a guest of theirs.

AQ was like, no, this is an unaccompanied guest. We don't want anybody golfing with us. So we get in there. AQ's got some pool, starting center for the Cardinals. So that was very nice of him. I don't think he bullied anybody. But somehow it happened. How long did the sleeveless last?

Okay. So as soon as we walk in, we had a tee time at 8.30 a.m. We walked in at 8.10, probably 8.05, parked it. We got a Charger, by the way, rental car. Had a Hemi in that thing. Thing was humming like a ham in there. So we parked the Hemi. Obviously, I have to rev it a couple times.

Oh, yeah. Behind AQ's Yukon he was driving or Denali or whatever. He was like, where are you guys? And I was like, you hear me? He's like, is that behind me? I'm like, oh, yeah. And now I'm not even thinking that everybody else in the country club is now like, who the fuck is this, right?

So we parked. I have a sleeveless West Virginia thing on. It's like a golf material, but I don't have any long sleeves. I didn't bring any long sleeves. I got golf shorts on, though. At least I look professional there and some fresh whites. And we walk about seven steps into the lobby of the main place and there's a guy excuse me right where are you guys trying to go and aq's like we're an unaccompanied guest uh we're supposed to he's like pro shop is

right this way and basically just walks us directly out of the lobby right down like a back alley right into the door what size are you yeah. Let me take you to the sleeve section. As soon as I walk in there, I buy a shirt. It was a nice shirt. That was the plan the whole time is I'm going to buy a shirt. By the way, every time I've been golfing with you,

you never come in golf apparel. You just buy golf apparel once you're there. Well, I think it's a part of the thing is buying like, because they always have them embroidered on the course. Yeah, yeah.

So it's like a thing that I do. I'm like, oh, I want a shirt from this place. At least you're doing them a solid too. Well, these people did not think so early. So I go in there and I buy it. Everybody's real nice and our tea time got delayed

because the dew on the grass. So I get the shirt and I'm like, is there a dresser? I didn't want to just take my shirt off in the middle of this pro shop, which I would normally do. I was like,

I could feel the vibe, right? I could feel the vibe. This is a very nice place yeah and he's like our locker room's right there to the right sir so i go in the locker room it's a double-doored locker room you know men's room and i put it on and i as i'm walking back into the pro shop there's a sign that says uh reminder all shirts must be tucked in right all shirts reminder walking out of the locker room all shirts must be tucked in i like stopped look i'm like i was just fucking sleeveless untucked upstairs these people were probably losing their mind when i was walking so i tucked in my goddamn shirt i was like all right here we go and i walked back into the pro shop and sure looked good i felt

good and uh he was like you can go up to the restaurant or the men's grill if you would like we have like 45 minutes we're gonna delay the tea times right thank you so we go up to the restaurant and it's us in the like six women sitting in there that's it just us and six women they're waiting to play too yeah i don't think so i don't think this will all come back around so it's us and like the six women sitting in there we get fed breakfast it was delicious i got a double omelet with six eggs in it. Oh, my God. Yeah, a lot of questions.

Not just a corn dog. Oh, yeah, yeah. Double omelet with some other stuff. Oh, yeah. It was very nice. Top notch. Very fast, too. I mean, it was a beautiful setting.

The whole backdrop was the mountains and the golf course. It was awesome. I was looking around. I was like, holy shit. They're like, they come to take you. They go, what's your member number? Right? So now AQ has to have that whole unaccompanied

guest conversation with this guy again no worries they charge it to his course to him yeah so we're playing on his tab at another place awesome move what a network i would recommend doing that all the time by the way playing on somebody else's tab at another because aq didn't have to sign for that at all the entire day so it never even even crossed his mind. So I'm just like, they put that shirt on the Seville golf course, member 228. That'd be great. I rented golf clubs, didn't even have to pay for them.

Didn't even think about it. Put it on another course's tab. AQ's like, God damn it. In his head, yeah. So we eat, we relax, and then we go over to the driving range

because we still got like another 10, 15 minutes. And it's chilly, man. It was really chilly out there. How's that swing, though? So the first couple balls, I was hitting well, but I was using AQ's clubs. AQ had two sets of clubs.

He gave me a second set of clubs. It's PXGs, which I guess are from Arizona. It's a new company. Very nice. AQ swings a fucking telephone pole. These clubs are telephone poles. And he plays a lot so well not currently with his acl he's only played like once i guess in the last couple months but before that he was

playing a lot out there because it's just country clubs everywhere yeah so it's golf where everybody retires go there so i get his clubs in the first he's like whatever you do you can swing i think as hard as you want it won't go left right so it's like so stir it's so stiff that it won't come around on you nice so i have no cleats on i'm planning on going barefoot i was planning on going barefoot going there and then once i started seeing how nice everything was i was like can't go barefoot so i had to wear some fresh white tennis shoes out there so i'm swinging this driver like out of my shoes and i'm still spraying the thing right i'm like i got no shot today no shot at all so i keep it going i keep

it going i'm like and i find like this almost like a baseball swing. I'm starting and it's like starting to clean up. I'm like, okay, I'll find this. So we start playing a little bit. We start hitting the ball around. Ball's not flying as far because the do Phil Mickelson told AQ Shipley,

this AQ Shipley told us is the dude takes three to four yards off of the ball. Really? Three to four yards off the ball. So everybody is an AQ heard Phil Mickelson say that in an interview, a.m on golf channel when his baby wouldn't sleep because aq is now a dad and this plays into the whole story as well this is like aq's first time out of the house basically he's been just fathering for all this goddamn time so it was like a fathered getaway for him okay but there was moments of worry about how his baby's doing in the middle of the fucking

course i had no idea what was going on so we start warming up we start playing first three holes are just like uh let's just fucking let's see what happens here and then we get into a game of wolf right a game of wolf what are the rules for wolf so wolf is a game where you have a set order and then you can pick a teammate or go lone wolf if you want for points and at the end it got a little competitive okay but i was i was so hit or miss i mean i was hitting i was hitting iron shots into like fucking seven feet and then the next one was going directly to the right like it was it was so hit or miss but by around like whole nine or ten yeah i started i was loose the driver was coming around i was hitting balls like probably the squarest i've

ever hit drivers in my life. Bombs. It felt like I was swinging a baseball bat. I'm just swinging as hard as... The ball looked like it was this big at one point. I could just hit the fuck out of this. And I was. It was going.

It was a lot of fun. And then we get to a par three. And the Irons had been hit or miss at this point. Par three was going to be my nemesis. I go lone wolf, I believe, this point par three was going to be my nemesis i go lone wolf i believe on the par three oh boy because i need no i was planning on going lone wolf because i needed uh to get some points there because i was bad early so i was losing to people i was down like three or four at the time so i t off first and i pull a seven iron deep into the fucking

desert rocks to the left nowhere near the goddamn green right so i'm like well i can't go lone wolf now son of a bitch i think foxy hits it somewhere i pick foxy it's me and foxy verse aq basically so i'm in the fucking desert in the rocks with trees which it was just bad it was a bad pull to the left and i go to hit it just give it like a little punch because i had a tree right behind me and i duff it right up to like next to the green where you guys saw me. And that's why I was like, okay, laying two. Because at this point, I was behind AQ like two, three points. And AQ is talking a lot of shit.

Like AQ is talking a lot of shit at this point. So I'm like, I'm laying two. No big deal. Chip in for par. I actually say that before I'm going in. I'm like, boom, I chip it. And it looks like it's going in. I probably chipped in probably three four times in my

life like this is not a normal thing and then it falls and I wanted to lose my fucking mind I wanted to lose my mind and then I look up and AQ has a par putt from like four feet and I'm like so I'm not even going to get a fucking point here I'm not even going to get a point here par and I just walk it

the fuck off at the moment but it was a huge moment that's why golf is golf, though. You hit that one shot and you want to go back. Absolutely. Foxy was balling a little bit. I started out hot. I started out hot and then I lost it. And also, every single one of my drives, I hit one down the middle. Pat's fucking

100 yards in front of me. No exaggeration. It's just demoralizing. It was awesome. It was really cool. I'm like a scramble player. I just got to knock it up to the green and then hope I get up and down and then keep it moving. Foxy plays like a 90-year-old. Yeah. Exactly.

We were on the course with a bunch of 90-year-olds. That's who Arizona, I think everybody just retires. Yeah, sure. And then they just become members at these country clubs and they just golf all day. It's like the dream. They had handicap flags on the carts. They had handicap flags on the carts like they had handicap flags on the go which i don't know what that means like what does that mean they're allowed to drive like

a 45 degree i have no idea no idea i have no clue what that means but i almost killed oh yeah an old man i i had to give him a four there's no way the handicap flag heard it though it went right through their legs right through their fucking group it was like uh i was probably 308 yards away from them they look around oh yeah oh yeah and then they waited members then they waited they waited so we get up there and aq gets out early he's like i'm gonna go to my ball i'm like you're you're sending me into this alone you're basically sending me into this so i have to drive up to their t-box and i go i am so sorry i had no idea i am so sorry and one guy goes you must have been pretty far out i was like i was on the t-box and he you were on the t-box

and you made it here i was like yeah and the one guy goes well that's the longest drive wow i was like she doesn't matter like no how'd you get it here and i was like i just swung the shit out of it i had no idea where it was going and one guy goes well that's obvious you almost killed ted or something and then they hopped in the goal yeah they hopped in the golf cart and pull away and it was from that point we had like a much better relationship with them but we were very much outsiders in that place and it was uh it was a great day aq ended up winning though yeah oh yeah about how much a lot it came down to the last hole though did It did come down to it. I had to get a lone eagle on 18

and the dramatics played out. I was putting for eagle. Yes, that a boy. I was putting for eagle after one of the most electric moments in the history of that golf course. I've never seen anything like this playing golf in my life.

This was unbelievable. So I'm teeing off. I'm going first. I'm down four. So I need eagle lone wolf to tie this thing up i had earned five points for both foxy and aq in this second back night i was hot and i was backpacking yeah i was like win win win win win but i was getting points for other people too so i couldn't you were gaining ground yeah that fucking par three i needed a lone wolf myself but i couldn't do it weren't gaining ground. Yeah. That fucking par three, I needed a lone wolf myself, but I couldn't do it. So I was literally just picking up points where the two were already ahead of me.

I was in a bad spot, but it came down to 18 where I'm leading off. I needed a lone eagle. It was a par five. It was set up perfect. I'm like, here we go. This is it. I'm playing well. Let's get this eagle.

Send this thing into overtime. AQ has to pay for an entire another round for us to play one hole. Fuck it. So I tee off and I crush crush it but it's drifting right right so it's drifting right fading right where there is definitely a string of houses to the right ob right there to the right right fading fading fading and aq goes out of bounds i win out of bounds it's over i already win you can't get an eagle i'm like i don't think it's out of bounds, I win. Out of bounds, it's over. I already win. You can't get an eagle. I'm like, I don't think it's out of bounds, though, because I saw some birds flop up out of a fence. I thought maybe I hit the fence and it bounced back in.

I thought that was a possibility. So we drive down there. By this point, the group behind us has become friends with us, and they're basically just with us at this point. They're with us. So we're driving down just looking, and I'm looking in the backyards of these fucking houses that are very nice on this golf course i'm just kind of snooping around and then we get up to this one it was it wasn't fenced in but it was right on the side of the

fence where i saw the things go and there's a lady there they're re they're renovating the house she's standing in her backyard on the steps and i go excuse me is this is definitely out of balance where her steps are is there any ball uh near you or do you see any come and she goes wait a minute and she picks up a ball picks up a ball from her stairway which is like probably 15 yards out of bounds maybe 15 yeah 15 10 15 yards out of bounds she picks up and she goes title is four i'm like yep she's like pro v1x i'm like yep and she throws it balls in play right inbounds like a foot inbounds bro right foxy has it all on camera fox has the entire thing on camera she throws it back and i'm like i never thank you so much thank you i never fucking touched that thing

oh it was a delayed bounce that's all i said i said that thing was a delayed bounce out of bounds right back into the thing right so now we got the group behind us with us, the ladies standing there, and the cart. So I go, give me that fucking hybrid. AQ, right? I'm like probably 220 to the green or so, 220. And I take out this hybrid, two different sets of music playing, ours in the group behind us, old rich lady outside that just threw the thing back staring two dachshunds wiener dogs outside i take this fucking hybrid probably 224 225 right to the fucking green like we're on it

in front of all these people i'm like thank you lady have a good one lion too right aq's hot aq's like this is bullshit is what aq's saying but aq was impressed with the shot yeah sure you gotta respect so he was like if this ends up i mean i'll take it basically he's what aq said so then we get up to the green and the green was the biggest screen i've ever seen in my time huge it was the biggest screen very fast too things were like glass out there it was like a hundred and some foot putt for eagle and i you know i can't read a green i've learned i cannot i cannot read i can i can hit it the proper speed yeah i can give a good roll at it yeah but when i think it's gonna zig it zags every fucking time and it was very confusing to me that

eagle putt i had it pin high probably like five six feet to the right but if i read that thing right it's probably going in and i have a we're dancing but i just couldn't read the goddamn greens so i ended up missing the birdie putt and ended up with fucking par it was a nightmare but it was a great great day of uh festivities great day so after that the group behind us very much a regular guy named dave he i think his dad might own the fucking place to be honest the way he was the untucked shirt t-shirt basically like no collar had on like uh sparrows he seemed like he owned the place he very much had that uh bravado bravado as if he knew people there he's like you should stick around afterwards there'll be like hundred some people in there just having drinks it's friday afternoon you're here for the perfect

time nice i appreciate that so we go inside we're in the men's grill yeah men's grill right what's up with that oh exclusive no women no women allowed the women are all in the restaurant where we were eating breakfast yes so we were eating where the wives were eating in the restaurant the men just sit down in the men's grill that's it they just hang out down there it's like they play cards they do this they do that the women have like their own club in the restaurant almost and i was like i we drove here and it felt like we were in the 70s now it feels like we're in the booming 30 or 20s or whatever it felt like we were way back in time it was just like a very interesting thing how long did you stay in that men's grill

we're only there for like uh probably 45 minutes yeah we got lunch and we were just kind of hanging out we were out i had uh i had a pretty big meeting. Go talk about what we're going to be doing. It was. It was a pretty large meeting, wasn't it? Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. I did not know we were walking into that big of a meeting. No, no. We were a little late.

Just a little late. Hey, not our fault, though. Not our fault. We had to go around the whole stadium like four times. The convention center is four different buildings. It's a convention centers. They have four of them, and we were told to meet in the convention center. We were at like the northeast one. We needed to be at at the southwest one so we had to walk through a couple different cosmic

cosplay places and we're looking for that royal rumble thing a wrong building the door is there i'm like yeah but which building you'll see it they kept saying so then we walked into another building and they were like you were looking for a royal rumble they're like you'll see it i'm like we haven't yeah i am letting you know that we have not seen it and we've walked into two different fucking buildings. So we showed up at that meeting a minute late and it was everybody that was in the meeting was just looking at their watch at us.

And I was like, hey, you guys should have better advertised we're in fucking Southwest building. Yeah, no shit. How about this, Michael Cole? Why don't you put it in the fucking sign saying, hey, it's a Southwest building instead of just convention center.

There's five of these fucking things in this city. Phoenix was beautiful, though. It was awesome. Phoenix was beautiful. And then the NXT TakeOver show happens. I was fucking electric. Thank you. I appreciate that. Dude, I tell you what, that dynamic you and Sam have is fucking something special. Don't you feel it when you're in there? Hey, Sam

was trending there. Sam was trending there for what he said about Bianca Belair. Love her. It was very interesting. It was very interesting. It came out of nowhere. Sam was trending there for what he said about Bianca Belair. Love her. It was very interesting. It was very interesting. It came out of nowhere. I was very surprised by it. He told me that he just had a moment of realization there.

Because I thought he was going to have a... So at the last WrestleMania, he was on the pre-show. And they sent it to him. And there was some communication issue where he's live on the pre-show, maybe on the USA Network, somewhere big. And he doesn't have... He some communication issue where he's live on the pre-show maybe on the usa network somewhere big and he doesn't have he doesn't know where he's going something happened and he like freezes he froze on tv for like 15 20 seconds and then he got ruined online for right like the internet look i thought we were having another one of those moments that's why i was like so excited i was like i'm like here we. It seemed like a malfunction. That's what I thought.

I was like, okay, we're having one of those moments. Because obviously Sam is one of the most talented brains I've ever been around. He is very good at what he does. So whenever I saw him kind of stumble, I was like, oh, this is a moment. This is a moment. And then he took the shot. But I had a good time. I got a Bahamas Fire Festival reference on WWE.

So good. So happy you on WWE Network. So good. So happy you got that in. So excited. There's a lot of conversation both here and in Phoenix with Sam Roberts on whether or not I should do that, whether or not I should even reference it. And Sam gave me like, I don't know, actually. I've never thought of referencing something along those lines,

so I'm not even sure. So whenever the conversation comes up about cassius oh no and riddle the original bro by the way he used to be the king of the bros now he's trained changed into the ob the original bro which i i think that's probably the right move personally that's here and are there but i knew that there was going to be a desperation situation so going into the show in my head i was like if this thing comes up this is my only time to really get it in right this is my if i want to do it this is my only time to get it in so they they mentioned that match and i give my answer then sam gives his answer and then i thought they were

going to pivot and change the subject so in the video you actually see me go up well there it is i just missed it and then charlie goes is riddle gonna be healthy and i was like well wait we got another shot so then i start talking and in the back of my brain the fire festival metaphor is just sitting there it's just sitting there waiting and i'm having a conversation like well are you gonna do it or not are you gonna do this or not and i was like if i don't do it i'm not gonna be able to look myself in the mirror yeah you're 100 right so hundred percent right. So while I'm giving an answer, I'm like, yeah,

we're going for it. And once it gets like into the rotation there, once it gets into like the, uh, on deck circle there, we should say there's no coming back. So now another conversation is like, this is stupid.

We should not be doing this. That thing's already in the fucking on deck circle though. So as soon as it comes on, Sam fucking, he, cause as soon as I mentioned a possibility of having a Sam, you and sam said he's like oh i hope he does it if he does it i'm a sam just goes along with it and digs me even deeper yeah potentially digs me even deeper it was beautiful that was a moment that was 100 for me that was 100 i like how you had the same

thought process to psych yourself up to reference what Andy King did as he did actually going to potentially do the deed. Yeah, exactly. That was exactly what it was. Called him cuzzy. I didn't want to go by name. I didn't want people to get too deep because I do understand the kids are watching. I'll give you credit. Last week on pod, you said toddlers. That's a good word. I'm going to use toddlers. And when you rattled off toddlers, I'll be some bitch. Yeah, there he is. He is doing this, man. I mean, he is. I try i drive my bet i honestly i have a bunch of things toothless tiger was another one yeah you got that out i got toothless tiger stealth his wealth i got in there toddlers i got in there and then the fire festival reference i only had i think i only

missed like one or two checklists in my brain and that's all just a game for me by the way i don't want i want people to know that that's a game for me to get those things in there as well the super wrestling fans aren't big fans of mine you just opened yourself up because people are going to be saying can you say it next time can you say i would like us to do that can you say next time by the way i would like that to happen because i do tweet things out like hey send me something that you want me to try because for me that's like a game because i honestly feel that i can slip anything into anywhere i think i can i honestly feel like i can do it and it's it's a fun challenge it's causing an organic reaction too because when you rip out a really good one it stumps them for a second you know you can see sam get caught off

guard like like i want to die laughing right now yeah yeah my the thing i love is the super wrestling fans and i I mean the... Die hard, old school. I am very different than anything that's ever been on a goddamn pre-show, right? I'm not breaking down the techniques of whoever. I have no idea on why somebody should win over somebody else. I do know. I get it, but that's not my thing.

So when I start rattling off these things, you've got these diehard wrestling people who are like man this is our world like why are we letting this person in and i want to tell them all like just stick with me i think i'll win you over give me like another three shows just realize that this is the same thing every single time but also fuck them to be honest it's hard for me to care well and on the on like on the other side of that i saw a bunch of people tweeting like you know like average fans they're like this is why we watch this shit because pat makes it like you know i mean it's supposed to be entertaining exactly that's all in my head it's just like

when i was doing the nfl game in my head i think there's a way to enter make things more entertaining sure now granted not everybody's gonna love it i've always i'm not for everybody but i feel like i say some good stuff i predicted like what was going to happen and basically three or four out of the five spot on so i think some people if they just read the transcript instead of my delivery just read my transcript know that that's fucking good too so it's not just the delivery that's great the transcript is as well go ahead and read through that but it's i could see that i'm a bit different than well you said you're not for everyone some people need to realize not everything is tailored to them this is a big wrestling show with a lot of stuff going on you're not going to like every little piece of it but hold on though it's a pre-show too yeah like fucking take it easy

yeah this is this is literally a pre-show panel but also i mean there's a lot of people that were very positive and i appreciate you guys it was just i i felt that because i couldn't answer every one of the super wrestling fans that They were like, why is this? Some guy made, a couple of them made me laugh very hard, though. There was an Irish or English or Scottish guy who said, who is this bumbling cunt on the right? I lost it. I was reading through it.

I was like, Pat, you did great. I'm like, I was reading, Pat, you did great. Pat, you did great. Why is Pat on here? Great question. Who is the bumbling cunt on the right? I was just fucking Pat, you did great. Pat, you did great. Why is Pat on here? Great question. Who's the bumbling cunt on the right? I was just fucking crying laughing backstage. And by this point, Sam was already trending worldwide.

So Sam was a little bit like, oh, he fell. So I couldn't even have a laugh. Somebody just called me a bumbling cunt. Forget it. I'm sure you're reading a lot worse than I am. I enjoyed the hell out of it, though, man. Have you noticed that stuff change, though, since the first one you did? Or is it still like with the heart it is?

It's the exact same. Okay, so this is my take on it. Hot take. Hot take. So the WWE is really the only playground for super wrestling, right? It's the only league. It's the only big one. Granted, there's others that pop up. They they come and go they have a lot of money but the wwe is the standard there's only so many jobs in the wwe but there's a lot of people working in the wrestling business so

there's a lot of podcasters that are strictly revolving around wrestling sports entertainment there's a lot of radio people there's a lot lot of hosts. There's Twitters. There's websites just that are 100% locked and loaded for wrestling. That's all they do all day, every day. So there's a lot of people that dedicate all of their time and effort to wrestling. And they have a lot of fans because they're good at covering it. And however they cover it, people enjoy. So whenever somebody that isn't a part of that group, like I don't dedicate my entire life to writing wrestling blogs or things like that. so i am potentially taking somebody's job that is that dedicates their entire life to wrestling who has a good fan base so their fans feel the need after obviously somebody like a lot of these wrestling bloggers will tweet something bad about me then they're

by the way weaponizing their followers yeah yeah weaponizing their followers which no i'm completely fucking around but those people will say something about me then their fans feel it and i completely understand you know like i i have been a fan for long i've read the fan reaction to things so i knew what was coming when i signed up to wwe to do wwe stuff so i just i just hope at some point though it becomes like uh like there's somebody else that comes in where basically they can be pissed off about that person taking somebody's job and not me you know what i mean but it's still new it's still new yeah so they'll figure it out but i i do feel like i can add a lot to that company though i do feel like i can add a lot in a lot

of the sports entertainers are fans of what i do too big time so that is a that's a huge thing like a lot of the nxt roster comes and speaks to me privately oh yeah like thanks me almost well yeah and usually a lot of the sports entertainers and wrestlers aren't the biggest fans of that other community that you're referencing they're they're not they're all i mean they're criticizing their entire time yeah exactly well they're the media of that right so i guess esp guess ESPN covers the news that WWE makes, right? If a deal is made, if something happens, but they're not criticizing the decisions that WWE is making, that's what all those bloggers and podcasters do.

So they're like the Stephen A. Smith, Skip Baylesses of wrestling, though. So it's just more of an internet presence, which, by the way, I read a lot of them, and I enjoy a lot of them, and I completely understand why they should be pissed that I'm up there and not them. But there's a reason why I'm up there. And it's mostly because ever since then, every pre-show trends worldwide.

That a boy. Now, wardrobe choice was key. Yes. I loved it. Wardrobe choice was key. Okay. Now, my question is, I saw it. I saw it.

If you didn't see it, Pat will explain it. But did anybody give you double takes on the way in, going to work? So I've done George suits a couple times now with them, right? But I'm trying to set the precedent because although the world has announced that I signed a multi-year deal with the WWE, I've only formally been offered a multi-year deal. So we are still currently talking through some things, right?

Because I could be calling games next year. be calling nfl games next year so we don't know how to set up a schedule where i won't be full-time with the wwe i would just be a talking head for them for the pre-shows and shit like that but i haven't officially signed the deal but we're very close right like it's very very close so i wanted to set the precedent hey, I know everybody in your company wears suits everywhere. That's what they do. It's a thing of the company, actually, is like, look good. We are professionals. That's a part of the thing.

So just like when Chuck had his rules for traveling rules, and I actually created a shirt to go around his rules, a t-shirt that I made a button down with nine buttons just on the top with the whole thing. I didn't even ask him about that. Should have fucking asked him. There's so much to talk to. That's on me. But just like that, I wanted to set a precedent. Like, hey, I don't enjoy shopping for suits.

I don't enjoy having suits. I don't enjoy wearing full suits. So I was just trying to set a precedent. Like, hey, I think I can look professional without doing the full joseph a bank you know what i mean like is there any way i could do that and there was michael cole told me that i i looked like basic me is what he said he said you look like basic you this isn't anything new and i was like okay good if this is good then i just know that we're good this is probably what's happening every fucking trip. If I do anything, this is probably what's happening. They're all so nice over there.

Very nice. They're all so nice. They don't even know me, and they're very nice to me. Evan Fox is in a goddamn WWE 2K game. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. I forgot to mention that to Corey, too. Play the clip.

And what is wrong with Kevin Syston? Pac-Man can be right there, and he's doing great. How about that? Evan Fox, he's even getting a drop in the goddamn WWE 2K game. Yeah, so what you heard there was Corey Graves taking a shot at Pat for me, and that's what they do every time we're with them. All of them are very nice to me, and somehow they find a way to take a shot at Pat and make Pat feel bad. do that's really what they do they do it on a very regular basis i after we

stopped by this place called mastro's which if you ever get a chance to go to one go it was incredible it was incredible it was the most outrageous place i've ever been in my entire life there's it was just outrageous good piece of meat was. This is the picture you took of the thing on your plate with the little... 18-ounce bone-in filet. Oh, come on. 18-ounce bone-in filet. Cooked to perfection. We didn't set a reservation. AQ's like, you got to go to Mastro's.

The people at the country club were like, you got to go to Mastro's. So everybody was telling us we had to go to Mastro's. Best steak in Arizona. Some guy was like, maybe the best steak in the West Coast. Somebody was saying, right? So we're like, all right, we're going to go there. The cows were getting massages and all that stuff i have no idea if they got a spot something is happening it's they're talking it up though they're like

this is the place you have to go so after the takeover it ends early right because we're in two hours behind so we have a couple hours and i hadn't eaten all goddamn day so i'm starving right i'm like we gotta go to the master's place we gotta go to the master's place so we hop in the hemi you know hop in into charger with the hemi we travel through the fucking desert like forever maybe to the next town that's what it felt like we went over to scottsdale and we head into mastros and we just assume we'll sit at the bar we'll just sit at the bar it's two of us it shouldn't be that hard or whatever we walk in and the place is just packed bar packed just like standing room only almost

so we walk down and there's a uh like a bus boy with an incredible mustache incredible mustache his name is miguel and i go uh i go is there anywhere to sit and he goes i think over there run and i go what he goes i think over there run i was like which one he goes the one without reservation on it i'm like i fist bump him i'm like thank you man so we run over there we get to the table it's only two top table open in the whole place i sit down as soon as i sit down this lady comes up and goes you can't sit here and i'm like oh no i'm like are you sure she goes yeah i go miguel told me that it's okay and she goes who i go miguel and she goes timo she says oh i go yeah yeah timo said i could sit here and she had a party of three with her girls that i think were

her friends so it was like she was like as soon as i find a table that opens i'll get you guys in there but me and foxy because timo sent us over there got there first and we're athletic so we sat down like i'm sitting at the table just sit down and she goes you gotta she has like a suit on almost she's like oh you have to get up this table's already taken i was like whatever so we have the whole team she goes and talks to this guy named eddie she goes and talks to i just talked to eddie you can't have this table but we'll figure it out for you i'm like thank you tell eddie i said thank you you know and timo thank you and she's like okay you got it so we go stand with timo i'm wearing the jort suit that i wore in the takeover thing everybody in there is in goddamn they're in full right everybody's suits out decked out i got the jorts on we're just standing at like the head of the bar next to goddamn timo and we're just trying

to figure it out and eddie comes up and he's like i got you guys eddie's like 25 years old has a suit on i'm thinking he's just like a busboy or something he's like i got you guys i got you guys i'm like thank you man he's just hold tight i'm like you got it so i look at my guy i'm like good guy he goes great guy and i'm like okay and i fist bump timo timo again and eddie goes behind the bar he talks to the bartender and i think he probably asked like is anybody at the bar about to leave and the bartender's like no he's like can we move somebody and he's like uh yeah this is a pretty good group over here so ed Eddie comes over to this group over there, moves the group out,

puts them at a table, moves them and puts them at a table at a restaurant and has us sit. We're at the head of the bar now. So we are at the head of the bar. Perfect spot. Two prime positions. And Eddie's like, I got you.

I was like, Eddie, my motherfucking man. So I give Eddie a hundred, obviously. There you go. I give Eddie a hundred. I give Timo a hundred,

right? Because I think he's friends with him. So I sit down at this thing, and we just start looking around, and this is the most ridiculous place we've ever been in our entire life. It was. The whole place was just like, whose dick is bigger? It was just on both sexes, by the way. People watching Paradise.

People watching Paradise there, and we're just having a good time. The bartender comes up. His name's Phil. He's got a good beard. I'm like, yeah, you're my CFO, basically. He's just like, you look exactly like Phil Maines. i was like phil this place pretty cool and he's like yeah you've never been here before i'm like no he's like oh you're gonna love it i was like okay so we get a couple waters a couple beers or whatever and we sit there and this other bartender

comes over his name's christian bald head he's argentinian big guy right and he's hugging every person that leaves hugging a kiss male or female right next to me right so he comes over talks i'm like who the fuck are you you know like real question like who the fuck are you he's like oh i've been here like 15 years i'm like oh by the time we leave here i'm getting a goddamn hug and a kiss so that's what i said to him right so we give a fist bump or whatever eddie comes back he's like hey anytime you guys need anything from us here's my cards i'm like this guy has no idea who we are we had to have looked so different in there that he was like

i don't know who these people are i don't have a fucking clue who they are but there's somebody so eddie gives us his card he's the fucking general manager eddie's the fucking general manager so i like i'm like eddie my fucking man like what's up dude i or manager or general manager one or the other yeah so i fist bump him and i asked him like who like how'd you get here how'd you start he was like well originally i was a bus boy and then a bar back and then a bartender and then now i'm the manager or whatever he said we just try to take care of people or whatever i was like that is so nice of you why'd you do that he said who are you so he asked me who i was and i saw him look me up on his phone and then from that moment forward it was just like we were the the lady who kicked me out of the seat she came over and gave me a couple cards and everybody they were

like everybody was just so fucking nice to us we knew everyone and eddie gave us a butter cake eddie gave us a free butter cake which was a dessert i mean it was just like and they like got a hug and a kiss on the way out from the argentinian it was just it was awesome it was a magical place really good so then we head back and cory grave sam roberts and a couple other wwe people are at a bar that's like right next to our hotel so we stop by there say what's up and there was in this process of w there's a lot of people that work for wwe a lot of people so i'm meeting new people literally every time because you got you got stage hands you got producers you got camera people you got editors you got you got everybody there it's a whole universe in of itself so there's three people i know at the table and then two people that i don't

so i'm trying to make i'm trying to be nice to the company that i'm about to maybe do some work with i try in in general i like to talk to everybody so the one guy shake his hand he has an incredible beard incredible beard. Incredible beard. I shake his hand, I go, man, great face, right? That's what I say, a great face, a little laugh. I walk around the other side, I shake the other guy's hand. I'm like, nice to meet you. We talk, we're chit-chatting.

They're having a good time. And all of a sudden, the one guy that I shook his hand, I'm like, they're like, he plays professional baseball. I'm like, oh, you're a professional? I play baseball too, you know? I was like, I'm also a professional baseball player. Just like, you know, trying to spur a conversation. He goes, I go, what position do you play?

He says, fourth base or something. I was like, oh, okay. I thought he was maybe like a DH or something like that. I didn't know what that meant. He's having dinner with WWE people, so he must be a big deal. In my head, I'm like, this guy, big deal. He goes to the bathroom,

and I'm like, who the fuck is that guy, you know? And they're like, he's married to Jen Sturger. I was like, I don't know who Jen Sturger is. They explained to me who Jen Sturger is. So immediately I have questions. Immediately I have questions. All of a sudden, you can Google what Jen Sturger is. It's an interesting situation.

So he comes back, and I'm like, man, I got a couple questions. Because if he's married to her, and he's eating dinner with WWE people, he must be a big fucking deal is what I'm thinking. I'm like, I want to got a couple questions, you know? Because if he's married to her and he's eating dinner with WWE people, he must be a big fucking deal is what I'm thinking. I'm like, I want to get to know this guy, right? So I asked him a couple questions. I'm like, you play fourth base. Are you like a big time here? He's like, yeah, you know, whenever you play T-ball,

like that's what it's like for me every day. I'm like, oh, this guy's a fucking huge hitter. All right. This guy's a big time here. I was like, who do you play for? He was like the Arizona Diamondbacks or whatever. And then he was, he said, he started in Fort Wayne. I said, for the 10 caps, for? He was like the Arizona Diamondbacks or whatever. And then he said he started in Fort Wayne. I said, for the 10 caps, I threw an opening

pitch there. Skip that thing in there. And he laughed or whatever. It was one of those moments where he was like, oh, you said you had another question? I was like, yeah, yeah. I'm just, who the fuck are you? I'm just trying to figure out who the fuck you are, you know? And I guess he got up and left there shortly afterwards because the night was kind of ending. We shook hands on the way out.

And all of a sudden, Sam Roberts and Corey Gravesory graves they're like were you trying to fight that guy cory was crying laughing so hard cory was crying laughing he was like you just you literally just alpha the fuck out of that guy i was like what are you talking about he was like you saw that another professional athlete was hanging out with us and you were trying to make him feel bad about how he was as a professional athlete. Why didn't you just tell him that you kicked off a Super Bowl, Pat? I was like, what are you talking about? And Sam Roberts was like, yeah, the tension was so real, the guy left.

Sam was like, the guy left. And I was like, what are you talking about? They were like, you were trying to punk that guy. I was like, no. I was literally just trying to learn about this fucking guy. They're like, well, maybe you could have smiled or something. I was like, that's just how I talk. That's just how I talk. And they were like, what you could have smiled or something i was like that's just how i talk that's just how i talk and they were like oh yeah you want to what a shitty person you are they like went in on me i was like this is what i was talking about they just piled it up i was like no way so

we walk back to the hotel it was like a four minute walk or whatever and outside they're like this is what happened they started impersonating what happened they're like first you said he had a nice face you remember oh face, you said to him. I'm like, no. And then you said, and then whenever he said he played baseball, you're like, I play baseball too. I was like, no, it was a joke. Like, you guys are taking it all out of context.

They're like, no, the tension was there. I was like, no, it wasn't. Turns out his name's Cody Decker. I followed him on the Twitter. He followed me back. So I think he thinks we're friends, which I thought we were going to be friends. Hey, I thought it too. They asked me like, Evan, what do you think?

I'm like, I'm around Pat all the time. I didn't think twice that he was trying to punk this guy. I was trying to go in on that. I was trying to learn about this. You just asked questions. That's all. I thought he was maybe like the white big poppy or whatever. I thought he was a homeless. Is he a catcher? What was the fourth base? I have no idea. That's what I thought too, Todd.

I thought the same thing. Have you heard that before, Ty? He's got to be a catcher. Yeah, in terms of catching. He doesn't play catcher, though. I think he was just fucking with it. It's a joke. I think he was trying. I'm looking him up here. I think he was trying to be modest and humble because he's not a great player.

Yeah, that's what I think so, too. He's like a triple-A player. Oh, okay. But honestly, I was just trying to learn about the guy. I don't know much about baseball, but what they were telling me whenever he went to the bathroom, I'm like, oh, I would like to know about this guy, right't know much about baseball but what they were telling me whenever he went to the bathroom like oh i would like to know about this guy right so i'm just asking him questions and then all of a sudden sam and cory are like you're a terrible person i'm like i didn't think so at all we shook hands on the way out it was so fun cory was in tears

crying laughing and then right after such a funny scenario because this is how you do it because he could be like a four-time golden glove and you know I won't know that because I don't follow baseball. Exactly. In my head, I'm thinking this guy is like a baseball MVP possibly, like a candidate, and he was pretty big. It was very, very, very possible. He was really good in college. I'm like, look, this guy is fucking a Houston Astro maybe.

I don't even know who this guy is. I don't know if he's a World Series MVP. I have no idea who he is. So I was just asking questions. Who the fuck are you? It was a real question. You tried to alpha him. he's a world series mvp i have no idea who he is so i was just asking questions in the yeah who who the fuck are you was a real it was a real question like oh you tried to alpha him i'm like i did not i did not and they made me feel they were digging they were like you should feel terrible about yourself i'm like sam why do you always do this to me man why do you always try

to make me feel like a terrible human he does i bet it was hey even you did his podcast was that friday night just tried to bury me the whole time he just brought up the mark henry thing the whole time about how terrible i should feel about it i'm like sam i'm happy everybody's bashing on the internet but it was it was a hilarious it was a hilarious scene out there in phoenix and that was where the owner of the place so right after that happens so while we're leaving the owner and his son talk to me so now cory watches this happen so that just throws you're talking about just throwing gas on the fire i mean it was next level i'm like i just want to get home i just want to get back to the

hotel and then we get in the hotel and somebody screams at me from across the lobby it was just a whole nother it was a nightmare it's a fucking nightmare what's the most interesting thing you found out about Sam Roberts? Like, I couldn't believe it. Like, anything like that on him? No. He's an interesting cat. He is.

He's sober. He's 100% sober. He's got that beard on him now. I mean, he's just a... He's a good guy. I honestly enjoy him, except for the fact that he always tries

to make me feel terrible about whatever I do. I was trying to become friends with that kid. That Cody Decker guy. Right. They didn't even know his name. One person called him, like, Chad. These people trying to become friends with that kid. I was that Cody Decker guy. Right. They didn't even know his name. One person's called him like Chad.

These people were sitting with him for an hour. They didn't even know his name. And I'm the disrespectful one. Wait a minute. I'm trying to learn about this guy. It was a good time. It was a, I enjoy,

I enjoy the WWE group of humans that I get to see, man. They're very, I know. Granted, I, I don't know. Probably 90% of the company still 90% of the company. There's a lot of them. I have no idea, man. Now granted, I don't know probably 90% of the company still.

90% of the company. There's a lot of them. I have no idea who any of them are, but the group that I deal with on the takeover shows, they're so nice. We're talking about the camera people. We're talking about everybody there is just so fucking nice. It's awesome.

It's absolutely awesome. I mean, with the exception of actual players, they probably employ almost as many people as the NFL, don't they? It's its own town of people it it's a circus right yeah let's pick up move from city to city but you think about their stages in the setup of shit that they put now granted royal rumble had none they just had insane graphics right well they had that big stage or the big thing over the ring that had the lights and the tea they built a jumbotron in the middle of the fucking thing. WrestleMania, I mean, in New Orleans, that was insane. It's like 100 yards long.

The people that they employ are top of the line in everything. What's it called? The people that roadies. They build things. The roadies at WWE, they have to piece together things that nobody else has to put together. They have to put together stages that can lift and gain and this and that and back they they have a 4k jumbotron that is split up into like 45 pieces that they have to put together with zero i mean it's just it's all the people

that work there but there's a huge crew of them man they and they just travel around the country all year round just putting those putting on shows putting on shows man it's awesome what a life who was that wrestler that came on your set? Bobby Fish. Bobby Fish. I didn't like Bobby Fish. Bad guy or good guy? With the bell?

You're not supposed to like Bobby Fish. That's a very good. Classic heel. That's a classic Gorman take right there. That is a, yeah, he was Bobby Fish. He's a part of the Undisputed Era, which is probably one of the best fashions in all of factions in all of wrestling right now.

They're a good group. They're a solid, solid group in there bobby fish showing up with that goddamn bell that was electric yeah he helped me get the shorts up i couldn't yeah because he mentioned he mentioned the jorts and i hadn't brought them up yet and i haven't talked about him yet it was clutch so i had no idea what else to do so i just stood up i couldn't see one of these before i couldn't see him either because he was through Sam Roberts' big fro. I couldn't even see where he was at. So he was saying things. I couldn't even see him.

I'm like, I don't know. Perfect wrestling goodbye, though, to Bobby Fish. Take a hike. Take a hike. I didn't know if we were still on because the countdown in my head had already hit one. So I was like, oh, we must be off. And then it turned out after watching it snuck like literally right to a commercial break

almost take a hike right to a commercial break they're a talented bunch though that the show they put on afterwards incredible so good

incredible what they do it's incredible and a man bites somebody's toe at one point middle of the match Casiozono

desperate times call for desperate measures exactly what I said was gonna happen bit his damn toe he would've got the water measures Exactly what I said was going to happen Bit his damn toe He would have got the water That's what I was trying to say the whole goddamn time That's what I was trying to say the whole goddamn time

So you're going back to Arizona is what I'm gathering Hey I like that place out there I loved it I liked it It was Now granted They're in the fucking desert Yeah I would never have thought about

The sandblasting effect on everything Everything man You know because I'm sure they get high winds Got lots of sand to blow against shit the fucking yeah i would never thought about the sandblasting effect on everything everything man you know because i'm sure they get high winds got lots of sand to blow against shit to wear it down the people were awesome though great people people are very nice everywhere we went people were very very nice casinos out there i know we're believe me we looked it up yeah we looked up it was like a 25 minute drive or something i was like yeah we didn't have all these trips i'd never have really timed the fact that we got golfing with aq is insane that was awesome because it never happens normally it's like as soon as we get somewhere something something

something something something something something sleep wake up something something something we don't even eat normally no something something something something sleep so it was nice to get a little golfing but the people were fucking awesome really cool stuff and i got home watch royal rumble uh passed out woke up today almost got t-boned by yeah how'd this happen 90 year old lady on my way in i'm driving into work pendleton pike is a road that i travel up and down often it's a it's a hit and run specialty that place it's always on the news for hit and runs i don't know why it's just there's some murders in the area too it's not a great road it's not a great part of town but i traveled every day two lanes up two lanes back

with a middle turning lane right so that's kind of like purgatory there you can turn left into a shopping plaza turn right into a strip club turn left into a uh a parking lot anything you need to do so that lane is normally used. I'm heading down. I'm heading south on Pendleton Pike in the left lane, leading a wolf pack of probably seven to eight cars. I'm going 53 to 55 miles an hour. Speed limit is 45. I'm in the left lane.

There is somebody pulling out of a shopping plaza in a purple Kia that is going to turn in the same direction that I'm currently going. But in my head, you're going to use the middle lane, which is the standard move, wait for traffic to break up and go. Used very often on this street because you never know where the traffic's going to be. It is a standard operation, turn into the middle lane, wait for traffic, and then guide in. I'm floating, and this purple Kia stays parallel with the middle lane. I'm like, well, it's going to be an aggressive turn. Parallel, perpendicular to the turning lane,

and then just rolls right through there, straight in front of my car, straight in front of my car, no thought of turning left, like no thought of even starting traffic. There's no driveway to the right that she could be turning into, nothing. So I slam on my brakes, hit the horn, turn right, drift, hit the curb, hit the curb, bounce up onto it, go around her back into the left lane. And I think if that hadn't happened, she would have never turned left. I think she was going straight the entire time. She turns left and ends up in the right lane next to me we're at a like going up to a red lights and slowing down so i look over i'm like

what the fuck you know like what just happened she goes i'm sorry and then puts her hand up like can't look at me 90 year old lady and then she bears right there's like a turning lane or she just bears right minivan behind me pulls up next to me and goes, did you get that bitch's license plate? And I was like, no, man, I don't even think she knew where she was at, is what I said to him, you know? And he was like, are you Pat?

I was like, yeah. He said, I've seen you do incredible things on and off the field, but that driving maneuver back there, you almost hit me. You almost hit me, but that was crazy. I was like, thanks, man, you know? And we just kind of went on our way. But literally, that would have been a huge collision. You almost hit me, but that was crazy. I was like, thanks, man. We just kind of went on our way.

But literally, that would have been a huge collision. My truck is a large one. Yeah, she lost. Do you think you would have took her like a monster truck? Just right over? Right up over her. I don't know. I honestly don't know, man. That lady should not be on the road, though.

She just had enough. She was like, look out, world. I'm coming. I think there was a chance she was trying to potentially kill herself. I honestly think there was a chance. She would have. She would have. I've never seen anything like it because there's no –

she's coming this way. There's nowhere to go over here, and she is still straight whenever she's in my lane, which is the left lane out of two lanes. So what is she going to do? Do a complete turn this way? Like what was she trying to stop traffic? I have no idea what she –

but she definitely saw me. I was a big truck, but our line, I taught me how to drive. She was for sure sending a text. You think so? Yeah. Maybe a tweet.

A 90 year old. Yeah. Yeah. That's the problem. You old people texting and driving is a real problem. Real problem. When you're on a motorcycle, you realize that because you have to watch the driver,

not the car. And whenever you're on a motorcycle, I don't want to say you older people, because I you two are tech savvy but the older generation texting the ones that are making the laws and whether or not people should be texting and driving or not are the worst texting and driving humans on fucking earth and it's not even a close second i don't know about 90 though maybe she was just adjusting the level over oxygen tank or something hey i i felt i i had like a little bit of like uh i had like some real like energy about adrenaline yeah it was like a drill i was like holy shit because my front end like jumped up onto the car i mean it i thought my fuck my tires were gonna be so if you're in a small car you're fucked i think so yeah because i hit that curve the curb was a real curve yeah

don't you agree with this Like right after that was over And you're like Oh Nobody died I'm okay That feeling you get For that brief like

Three seconds If you could fucking Bottle that Oh and sell it on the street God it's the best feeling In the world Yeah You know during that moment though

I also had a guy next to me Go Did you get that bitches That guy was awesome man it was a cool moment cool moment but my might not be able to work though i mean my tire might have just slowed me that would be the worst i mean i hit that thing probably going 35 miles an hour alignment i assume that's a big ass truck with big ass tires a big ass suspension i think you're pretty good 35 miles an hour hitting probably an 8-inch curb, maybe?

8-inch curb? That thing was real. I felt it, too. You'll know tomorrow. And I'm a big-time seatbelt wearer, you know, so everybody knows that. So that would have been quite a fucking scene, dude. It was wild. Hey, everybody hated that Pro Bowl, by the way.

Yeah, I did not get a very good response. This is the worst response I've ever heard. That was wild. Hey, everybody hated that Pro Bowl, by the way. Yeah, I did not get a very good response. This is the worst response I've ever heard. And we didn't even get to watch it because we're traveling, basically. I was just keeping up with it on the internet. People are not happy with the Pro Bowl. Why? It worked.

Ezekiel Elliott was playing corner. Jalen Ramsey was playing wide receiver. I mean, what do you want these guys to do? I think a skills challenge. I've been saying this for a long time. Get rid of the game. Get rid of the game. The skills challenge is something. We talked saying this for a long time. Get rid of the game. Get rid of the game. The skills challenge is something, we talked about this in the car

yesterday, and I think I've been saying this for a long time, everybody's grandstanding on the internet that they have some genius idea on how to fix the Pro Bowl, and it all revolves around skills contests of some sort. But I think you pay everybody that made the Pro Bowl $20,000. Pay them $20,000, have them go to the Pro Bowl site.

Do media. do media for the nfl do media have a radio road just like there's for super bowl congratulations these guys made the pro bowl representing the nfl then have a questionnaire for every guy that gets voted in the uh to the pro bowl okay if we were to have a 40 yard dash contest would you want to be a part of it and try it's okay if the answer is no. But then put some money on it. Be like, okay, here's an extra 15 grand if you do the 40-yard dash contest. Then you can have the long throw contest by the quarterbacks. They don't have to sign up for it. But if they're willing to do it, here's an extra 15 grand for this.

Have an eating contest maybe by the offensive linemen, defensive linemen. Just turn it into a series of things that people who have signed up to say, yes, we'll try to do and also a flag game a flag game field one team from the entire nfl pro bowl have them play against that nfl network flag football team champion and put a million dollars on the line for it and just have it be flag football and have the only people that are playing in that are the people that filled out the questionnaire yes i'll try so like if patrick mahomes says yeah i'll try have him be the quarterback for the flag football team if the questionnaire, yes, I'll try. So, like, if Patrick Mahomes says, yeah, I'll try, have him be the quarterback for the flag football team. If Tyreek Hill says, yeah, I'll try, have him out there.

If he doesn't want to do it, no worries. Don't feel bad at all. Don't even have to put out a fake effort out there. Just field a team of people that have answered questionnaires. Yeah, I'll try to this. Yeah, I'll try to this. Yeah, I'll try to this. And then you just have a weekend of entertainment, basically,

as opposed to a weekend of half entertainment and then a game that always disappoints. Yeah. Always disappoints. That would be such a better product. Such a better product. I think it could be entertaining. Yeah.

I think it would just be entertaining. It would be fun to watch. By the way, the Precision Contest, I think the way they pieced that together with the American Gladiator looking shit. That was like the best part. Awesome. Yeah. Let those people who are creative just start thinking of ideas for big men now.

You mean throwing the football? Yeah. The high score was 19 by Russ Wilson. I think I could beat that. My next question, could you beat that? You had fours that were sitting there. You can only hit them once. That's eight points right out of the gate.

Because I just talked about it on the previous podcast. I asked if I could do the precision passing thing. They said no, and that's ultimately why I decided not to do it because I wasn't going to not walk because of my knee injury. But then whenever Thielen was doing it and Von Miller, I was getting thousands of tweets from people like, do you see this? Do you see this?

Thielen looked good, by the way. I thought Thielen looked good. Von Miller didn't perform great. You could see that he could throw the ball a little bit. He had a short arm. But man, that would be a lot of fun to get on that course. Yeah. They should think about having that somewhere for people to pay and go do like that it would be a lot of fun to be if you're a quarterback don't shit in your cleats andrew luck i mean that was bad

i didn't see it he was not precision five points i mean he couldn't hit the ball and ass with the banjo i mean he could what do you mean he had five points? He outscored Von Miller by three. Yeah. Andrew Luck did? Yeah. It was not pretty. Not pretty. It was ugly, man.

I mean, he was missing. Yeah, but he won the good hands contest with Ebron and Juju. So. Yeah. Well, you're paid to throw the ball. By the way, I would like to do that, too. I'd like to do the good hands contest, too. A lot of body catching on his one-handed catches by people. A lot of body catching.

You just got to go out there and fucking snag that thing but you gotta you gotta i think they gotta send out a questionnaire like would you try if we were to do this because i think you'd get a real 40-yard dash contest because there's a lot of guys that take a lot of pride in being faster than other people that is uh and that's something that happens in the football world if somebody's faster than somebody else it's like we'll line up then that's the only it is very it's a very regular thing maybe do the 225 bench thing again yeah exactly for the d lineman whenever cuz he did it 50 sometimes or whatever back in the day from the cowboys they're still running that vibe all you're trying to look for is viral content yeah have the kickers do a espn around the world contest or a distance contest have the punters do

the same thing you can make up contests that could involve everybody. You just have to ask people whether or not they'll try. And if you get enough people to say yes, do it. And if not, don't do it. I just don't understand. You keep track of the scores and the times and all the events and you keep them as records. You know, this is the record.

But the 40-yard dash, that could be primetime TV like the Olympics. You should put that in. Have qualifying rounds and then have the fucking olympics there at the end have it covered exactly like a but give it like give it like 60 grand to the winner something that makes a difference 100 grand or something that these guys are hauling ass yeah i think so i think you give them like hey the fastest person will win a hundred thousand dollar grand prize that's something that makes everybody want to try and watch too well and the issue is the issue is nobody wants to get hurt.

Nobody wants to hurt anybody else. And everybody just is like, yeah, we're here strictly because, hey, it's cool. It's cool to be voted as a pro bowler, which I think you could still do. You do the media being a pro bowler. You just don't do the game. But also, nobody gives a fuck, man. There's nothing on the line.

There's literally nothing on the line. And the weather was horseshit. Weather's terrible. Last one in orlando for a couple years they said it's a real shame glad you're live and hi pat me too man it's great to see you guys that's it for today we are so thankful you choose to listen big thanks to coach pagano uh we didn't really get to dig that deep uh we did actually we dug real deep oh yeah didn't get many there's so much more i hope he comes back on. We'll see how it goes.

Big thanks to Chuck. Big thanks to you all. Yeah, we'll be down in Atlanta starting tomorrow and then live on Thursday, Friday, and Saturday. Come fucks with us. We're just trying to have a good time with the biggest game of all time. Let's hope for overtime so we can get some free wings for America. From myself, Nick Todd, Old Gorman.

I almost called you Gruden. Gorman, Ty Schmidt, Evan Foxey, and everybody else here in the Heartland PMI offices. We appreciate you. Ty Schmidt. Oh, no, let's do a hashtag endgame, hashtag endgame. Hashtag endgame, hashtag endgame. I think we're going to come out with like four or five, maybe even six St. Paddy Day shirts.

You will give you one of each. If you send us a picture of or video of. The lady's car that almost killed you. There it is. Oh, the 90-year-old lady. The reenactment of the situation. It can either be how I acted whenever it happened, how the lady acted, or how the accident could have looked. to Delroy Evan or how the accident could have looked.

Best one in Evan Foxey's eyes wins at least one shirt from each of our shirts from the St. Paddy's Day line. Nice. So thankful for all you. Ty Schmidt, hit the music. Welcome to Atlanta, jacking hammers and bows. Back to the macking and jacking the clothes Adolescents packing a fold, a knock on the door Who is it? I would happen to know, the one with the flow Who did? It was me I suppose, J.D. in the roles And looters in the cut, supreme Skating down, no neck, tucked and leaned I split your spleen, as a matter of fact I split your team

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