The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 049 - First Day On The Job With WWE, Nick Mangold, & Darius Butler
Episode Date: February 21, 2019Pat is in Orlando recording the show from his hotel room as he finds himself in his first full week as a WWE employee and the guys record a late, slap happy episode. They cover his travels down to Flo...rida, his entire first day at the complex including commentating a dark match at the WWE NXT event, and him hitting a HUGE Frog Splash on a training dummy. They also cover Zion Williamson's shoe/knee exploding and whether or not it will affect Nike stock, some of the guys competing in a very hot and spicy chocolate eating contest, and break down the sale on St. Paddy's day shirts available now for 20% off (through Saturday at midnight) at store.PatMcAfeeShow.com. Also included are a couple of incredible interviews. First, 2nd round pick of the New England Patriots and Pat's teammate in Indianapolis, one of the smoothest athletes to ever play in the NFL, former defensive back, Darius Butler, joins the show. He and Pat chat about him being in the room with the owners when trying to end the Kaepernick situation, what he thinks about the way everything unfolded, what he's expecting from his new podcast, and he answers a few questions about Antonio Brown, one of his best friends (1:11:15-1:35:21). To close out the show, 7x Pro Bowler, 2x All-Pro, former center for the New York Jets and hilarious human, Nick Mangold joins the show. He chats about what it was like playing for the Jets through the good and bad times, which version of Rex Ryan he prefers, what some of his hobbies are outside of football now that he's retired, some Ohio St. and Michigan rivalry stories, and whether or not he'll raise his son as a Jets fan (1:50:38-2:04:38). It's a hilarious one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Me and Evan are coming to you live from the residence in Marriott, downtown Orlando.
The boys are back in the office.
There's four of them.
Connor and Zito were still at the office at 11 o'clock at night doing God knows what.
Yep.
We're just hanging out.
Just, you know, shaking hands, kissing babies, the usual.
I got done with like a 13-hour day here with Foxy and the WWE.
My first official day as a WWE employee.
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Moving on up.
It was a long day.
I mean, it was a long day.
And I FaceTimed Ty.
And Ty has the worst schedule out of any human possible.
Possibly existing on Earth.
I would put his terrible schedule up against anybody on fucking Earth, honestly.
Because he has to edit all the podcasts and then he has to make sure that they post.
And technology isn't great.
So sometimes they don't post for a couple hours.
So he literally has to stay up from like 2 to 5 a.m. to make sure the podcast posts.
And then he has to come in
and do it again the next day
for either Heartland Radio or myself.
So here we are at 11 o'clock.
I FaceTimed Ty.
I'm like, I am so sorry.
I just got done commentating a match
for the WWE.
Okay, okay.
Let's go.
Ty calls Nick.
Nick gets to the studio.
Connor and Zito are still there
playing tummy sticks.
And here we are live. I won. I'm excited the studio. Connor and Zito are still there playing tummy sticks and here we are live.
I won.
I'm excited for this. Let's go.
So I got
a convertible Corvette as my rental car.
Great choice.
Great choice.
We've talked about this before.
The WWE
is very hospitable
to me and Foxy. They fly us around.
They put us in great rooms.
You got a whole kitchen behind you.
I mean, I'm literally in like a little apartment.
My room too.
Yeah, Foxy always gets taken care of better than me.
No one cares about your room, Foxy.
Is that a toaster back there?
What's that?
Is that a toaster?
Yeah, there is a toaster and a coffee maker.
You don't see that anymore. You do not see that.
Microwave, full-size fridge
and china. We got china
in here. Whoa. Hold on.
And plates and shit. That's a
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And in the corner over here, they even got scotch
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Very fucking nice
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So, as soon as we...
We fly to Orlando yesterday.
Okay?
Business trip.
Yep.
Big deal.
Get on a plane.
Fly to Atlanta.
Lay over in Atlanta.
Atlanta to Orlando.
The Atlanta to Orlando flight, by the way, a lot longer than you would think it is.
How long would you think that flight would be?
Hour and a half.
Two and a half.
Yeah, hour even.
Yeah, I'd say like an hour ten.
Yeah.
Two and a half.
You're in the air longer.
We both looked at each other right in the face and thought 20, 25 minutes.
Atlanta to Orlando.
You guys are spot on.
It's like an hour and ten minutes.
Yeah.
Let's go, Ty.
Huh?
Me and Ty hit the nail on the head there.
I was like, yeah, that's about an hour, right?
One state.
That's incredible because Florida Georgia Line, in my head,
the band is also in the flyer.
Right.
In my head, it's just like a short little – anyways, it's not.
So I get on a plane, and I'm near the front of the plane.
It's a nicer seat.
It's a bigger seat, and there's less people in my area than where Foxy is. Foxy's row 46. All the front of the plane. It's a nicer seat. It's a bigger seat and there's less people in my area
than where Foxy is.
Foxy's row 46.
All the way in the back.
46F near the shitter.
I'm row 3B.
No big deal.
Yep.
So I don't like boarding planes until late.
I don't understand the big rush
to get on the plane
as soon as your zone is called.
That's because you sit in the front.
Yeah, you don't get it with back in the 45 with me and Foxy
where you got to fight for elbow room and baggage space, all right?
By the way, let's not act like I didn't used to fly.
Fair enough, fair enough.
Okay, okay.
I used to travel a lot back there, okay?
But I am not like Ty.
Like, I'm not going in there fucking
and sharpening up my elbow.
So, anyways,
I would rather just sit in the waiting area
than on the plane.
But, I mean, that's preferences, right?
Yep.
So we go on late.
Everybody in first class is already saddled up.
Everybody already in first class is saddled up. Everybody already in first class saddled up.
They already have a drink.
They're already doing their thing.
I normally show up fucking all up, right?
Like it's just like, excuse me, because I got a white ass.
So I definitely hit them in the shoulders whenever I'm walking through.
It's always a scene, right?
I'm not supposed to be.
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So I get on a plane.
I'm wearing, I think it's the goat standing on the cake.
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Okay.
Airpods in because I'm a businessman.
Clearly.
I got my airpods in. I'm listening
to a Hawaiian
car cruise playlist that I put together
in Hawaii for our
rental car we had, Sam and I.
We drove into town, which was like a 20, 30-minute drive.
Okay?
I'm feeling good.
I'm feeling good.
About to go to my first day, WWE.
I sit down 3B.
Okay?
Last person to sit down.
Flight attendant comes up.
Would you like anything?
Just the water.
Okay, we're about to take off.
Here's your bottle.
I'll get you on our week.
Cool.
We get into the sky.
We take off. AirPods in. No communication with anybody else you one in a week. Cool. We get into the sky. We take off.
AirPods in.
No communication with anybody else either, by the way.
I stay in my own lane.
I'm a chatty person, but I'm also an observant person.
I don't mind watching people.
I don't have to talk all the time.
It's a plane, public transportation.
If Foxy's up there, we're probably talking the entire time.
I don't know anybody.
It's not my lane here.
So there's TVs on the back of the seats in front of us.
That's nice well he left next to me slams it on cnn like as soon as we get tv service like slams
like like slams it on cnn puts it on cnn quicker than we had tv service cnn okay and she's like
getting i don't want to say emotionally heated watching this on the plane. I'm just bebopping through.
I think I might have been writing some notes,
some ideas for some WWE stuff
or something like that.
She gives me, excuse me, where are you from question.
Oh boy.
Is the AirPods in?
AirPods in.
What a nerve of this lady.
AirPods in. Excuse me, where are you from?
Older lady.
How old are we talking?
Like elderly or like 60?
Wrinkles or no wrinkles?
I'd say like 40, 50.
Okay, so middle of the pack.
Yeah, Gorman Todd.
Oh, that's a big difference.
Gorman Todd age.
That's basically the same.
One just carries it a little better.
One has lived a much harder life.
You got to measure those miles when you're comparing people.
So I give her like a – because I got tight jorts on.
I'm wearing Air Force Ones.
I got this goat with a keg shirt on.
I just stormed into the thing late.
So in my head, I'm like, I can understand this too.
But I give her like the ear thing.
Excuse me, right?
Like I didn't hear you.
I raised my octaves.
So it's like a polite, excuse me?
You know?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, like inflection up there.
And she goes, where are you from?
And I said, Indianapolis.
Right?
By the way, a little bit of a mental battle there in my head,
whether it's Pittsburgh or Indianapolis.
Every time I go through it, I don't know what to do.
Very happy I said Indianapolis, though,
because the line that came back immediately after me saying Indianapolis,
about, I mean, this is just a few minutes into the flight.
We're talking two, three minutes into this hour and seven-minute flight.
She goes, Indianapolis.
That's where Mike Pence is from.
I go,
yes.
She goes,
disgusting.
I died laughing.
I mean,
I,
it was a Jesus loves you pop for me.
It was a dying laugh.
Like I could,
I laughed so hard.
I don't know if she was expecting that.
If she wanted war immediately.
I don't know what happened.
Like,
I don't know what she was thinking.
I watched Zach Galifianakis comedy special one time.
And he told this story about sitting outside of a,
there was this truck,
this like redneck guy sitting in a truck outside of a gas station.
And three dudes walked down. He said like the redneck was this truck, this like redneck guy sitting in a truck outside of a gas station. And three dudes walked down.
He said like the redneck was like three queers, you know, and Zach Galifianakis was one of them.
And he just, they laughed at him and walked away.
And his whole bit was like, I wonder what number that guy would not have said that.
Like if there was five of them.
That was the whole thing like in my head like that lady what was her
plan for like what did she did she want war like right there on the like disgusting amigo uh don't
you ever say that what happens for the next hour and five minutes where we are literally strapped to a missile
directly three inches away from each other so i just laughed i laughed very hard and i was like
oh so you're a big fan you're a big fan yeah because uh she goes on a run about how how
terrible the president mike pence are and like all this stuff so i literally i just my response was like do you
just live like in just the politics like do you just watch politics all the time do you think
this is why like you're you seem angry right like i was like said that and she laughed at that they
got a little chuckle out of her so then we started like talking we like started having a full
conversation she hates everything about indiana sure. But he hates everything about
it. But I learned so much from this lady so quickly. It's like, this is why I just stay
completely away from the politics. It is she was triggered because I had jorts and a green shirt on
with caves to think that I was somebody that she was saying was ruining the greatest country on earth
and this is a conversation happening at 35,000 feet with no foxy around to film it that was all
I could think is if foxy wasn't backed by the shitter right there we have another fucking viral
oh man I wish you brought up uh space I would have loved to hear what that lady had to say about that debate there.
You think she landed on the moon?
Do you think she had a triggered word for every single state?
Like if you would have said Pittsburgh?
No, no.
She loved Illinois.
Oh, let's go.
She loved Illinois.
She loved Michigan.
There's nothing wrong with these two.
You and Ohio, though.
Where was she from?
Yeah, yeah.
Where's this high horse lady from
uh she's from philadelphia originally oh that's jesus eagles fans these days i will say this
though we had we obviously i'm not going to not continue to engage in this human this is very
intriguing human to me right sitting in first class obviously a pretty successful person lady
she had a louis bag and stuff like that she was a vegetarian oh oh yes those five-star people man
but we talked every we just i try to steer it as much away from politics as well like lady i don't
know enough to get into whatever you want to get into right now.
But I do know that, like, Indiana's playing Purdue right now.
My friend Clayton Anderson is sitting courtside.
Like, I put ESPN on.
There you go.
He's yelling at me about how disgusting I am.
I was like, all right, let's just be as stereotypical as we can possibly be here.
I just went straight to ESPN.
In Indiana, Purdue just so happens to be on.
And I was like, Indiana, look at that.
There was basketball players on the screen and she said, I thought it was only
white people in Indiana. I was like, no.
Wow, geez.
It was one of the most insane flights
I've ever been on in my entire life.
You should have dropped the, hey, look, I know you don't like
Mike Pence, but you ever heard
of Dan Dockage before?
You should probably give him a nice little listen here.
Dude, it was awesome.
It's just like I wish.
It's one of those moments where I just wish there was like.
I run into the dumbest shit.
Me and Fox, you were talking about this.
These things just happen, right?
Number seven sign spinner in the entire world just pops off right fucking in front of me yeah you're a magnet you attract these these exotic eclectic people
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i'm not scared to dig in if i've had some vitamins i will go in i will learn some things
peel back those layers what i learned from that lady is Indiana, not a very well-loved
place by people that watch a lot of CNN.
I never guessed.
Well, she clearly knew a lot about the place.
I thought we were a big tech
community.
Big tech community.
I thought I worked on the internet. Big time tech guy.
Pat said he explained to her
that there's actually a city
in the state of Indiana.
It's not just like all farm fields.
I brought out my maps.
I couldn't get the internet, though, because we're on an airplane.
Oh, obviously.
You didn't get the premier internet.
But my maps were still loaded from Indianapolis, so they didn't load in the trip.
So I zoomed in on Indy, and it was very blurry.
I was like,
see those buildings and shit down there.
It was a real... Guess what? You know those bird scooters?
We got them.
My friend actually broke his lap.
Oh, come on.
You know those vegetables you're eating, lady?
You know where they come from?
Fucking Indiana.
Vegetables, military.
We're out here in America mostly.
But I honestly think I brought us together a lot closer.
By the end of it, she's probably listening to this show right now.
Really?
Subscribe her now.
Gained a fan.
I don't know.
After I just retold the story, I don't know if she's going to stick with us
but she ended up being a nice lady
a nice lady
what was your ending worth with her?
she had a
I asked her if she had a bag
that she wanted me to grab
and she gave me like I'll get it
and I was like of course
see you later
I mean that's very misogynistic of you
to think that she couldn't carry her own bag
as soon as I asked the question I regretted it
as soon as I asked the question I regretted it
and by the way she was a fit
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So then we land in Orlando.
And normally the WWE gives us a rental car, which is very nice to them.
And I'm now a rental car person.
Like I never was a rental car person before I started working for WWE.
I was Uber or let's get a taxi outside
or somebody weighs me down in the lobby of the baggage claim.
I'll hop in any random car.
I'll do all that shit.
Oh, yeah.
So this one, rental cars, I've become a big fan of.
It's very, very nice.
So the only issue, though, is that since I am so low on the totem pole here at WWE,
me and Foxy, the only rental car we were allowed to get
without upgrades allowed,
which I have asked managers of rental car places
if I could upgrade and pay for it myself,
banned from upgrading.
Just minivets.
Just minivets.
Just minivets.
So every conversation with the car rental places,
is there any way I can pay for an upgrade?
And they go, yes yes let us check in every
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the one lady said that normally there's a third way that she can get into it by setting uh like
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Oh, yeah, you backdoor the system.
She said they block that somehow.
She said she doesn't even know.
This is a real conversation.
This is Vince.
This is Vince's job right here.
No, they travel so much.
And your accommodations are a huge part of the company.
If you're a first-class flyer, coach flyer, because this is a traveling business. I mean, this is literally. So it's a huge part of the company like if you're a first class flyer coach flyer like it's a huge because this is a traveling business i mean this is literally so it's a huge part of the company and i'd assume
that their deal with national who we've been with every single time it's like okay this person's
slotted here this person's like yeah like i don't think there's people like really like yeah don't
let fucking mack if you get anything other than i don't think that's happening. But every time it's funny. So this time I just got my own rental car, right?
I was like, I'll just get my own.
Okay.
She said they had a Maserati SUV.
Oh, boy.
I know.
Behind door number one.
Let's go.
Okay.
Door number two, a Bumblebee charger.
Oh, man.
Lame.
Which we have got before.
We got that in Arizona.
That was the last.
It was nice.
Less than peace, by the way.
Been there, done that.
Or brand new convertible Corvette.
Oh, jeez.
Less than 1,000 miles on it.
Oh, my goodness.
Corvette is the car that i drove as the pace car in the indie grand prix
on indianapolis motor speedway ari leindyke teaching me the road course at the indianapolis
motor speedway leading 32 indie cars behind me just bought corvette we we made a simple decision
there we would like the corvette. Yep, yep.
Do you want the insurance?
Absolutely.
We would like the insurance.
We have no idea what's going to happen.
Excuse me, miss.
I have a goat with a keg on my shirt. So, yeah, I would like the insurance, actually.
Lady, I was just called disgusting no less than an hour and 20 minutes ago.
And for being from the state I'm from,
let's assume that I'm probably going to fuck up this Corvette.
Yeah.
$38 insurance.
Yes, please.
Did you see a yellow Corvette next to it?
No, we got a red Corvette, but there was a yellow Corvette option.
Yeah.
I almost rented that one from the same place when I was there.
Okay.
So the yellow Corvette was an option
yeah red corvette newer yeah so we wanted the red corvette good choice so we walk out to the
parking garage to pick up our rental car didn't even think about our bags not fitting in that car
so we popped the trunk and foxy had to do an actual wedge like a like it's in short i think we had shirts i think
we broke the trunk wedge his bag in the trunk which is basically just like a um like a uh
glove compartment like a glove compartment in the back yep because you're sitting three inches off
the ground it's an indie car you're sitting in an indie a while. So we get in the car. We're driving around.
Take the ragtop down so my hair can blow.
Yeah, oh, yeah.
Call my fiance.
Ooh, yeah, just, you know, do the rounds.
Because it's snowing in Indiana at this time.
Oh, yeah.
So I call her from a convertible in a Corvette in Florida.
Just to let her know, ask her how everything's going in Indiana.
Couldn't hear a word she was saying.
So it turned into me calling her and her going, hello?
And I'm going, what?
Like, you're such a fucking asshole.
Hangs up on me in this fucking convertible.
Cop, I'm floating.
We're driving this thing.
We're driving this thing because
there's i mean i don't know how you don't right yeah of course that's exactly why they don't let
you upgrade by the way probably the reason let's get into the show at least blue lights come flying
up from the back oh like flying up from the past oh foxy couldn't get his camera out fast
i was ready he was digging like, oh, my God.
And then he just grabbed the camera and I pulled over.
I even did a pullover.
Like, that's how committed I was to, yeah, it's me.
I was like, yep, pull over.
Dude floats right by us.
Wow.
Oh, boy.
That's like a real moment there, you know?
He caught the reaction?
Oh, yeah, I'm assuming we have it.
Let's go. Yeah, I'm assuming we have it. Let's go!
Yeah, I'm assuming we have it. And then we
go, um, we get to the
hotel, and
I can't sleep still
because of Hawaii.
Oh, jeez. Jet lagged.
I get through all the time.
Actual jet lag.
This is actual.
You know, I'm happy this came up. This is what jet lag This is Actual You know this is I'm happy This came up
This is what
Jet lag is
Yeah I get it all the time
The hour difference
Gets me
From Chicago
Yeah
From Central to Eastern
Oh my god
You have no idea
How hard it is
They've been doing
A lot of case studies
On the Central time
To Eastern Standard time zone
They say it's the worst one
I know
I'm leading
the case.
I'm like
half asleep.
It's like 2 a.m.
is 9 p.m.
to me. So I'm bright-eyed
bushy-tailed. You know what I mean?
It's been very hard to sleep. I don't know
how I fix it, to be honest. I don't have an an anvil pm i've been trying to just vitamin the shit out of my like
last night i might have been on cloud 48 which leads to this about 142 last night i even wrote
the note down in my phone i'm part of my room is right outside the parking garage here i heard a I thought the vet got stolen
Oh my god
I wrote it on my phone
I wrote the notes down on my phone
For when the cops come and ask me the next day
What happened
I go about 1.42
I heard a fucking
I heard a V8
Go nuts out there
Look look
There's a time stamp right here
I swear to god officer
1.48
Yeah 1.42 It was actually 1.42am So Look, look, there's a time stamp right here. I swear to God, officer. 148.
Yeah.
142.
It was actually 142 AM.
So this morning I was fully expecting to go over there and our car be stolen.
And I was very excited for that because we're filming my first 24 hours at the WWE. Me refusing to take their rental car, getting my own, then it getting stolen.
Can't write this stuff, folks.
This magical content.
Magical, magical content.
Didn't happen that way.
The fucking thing survived.
It must have been some other fucking car getting stolen, which is a real shame.
Kind of fucking up our thing.
So we get in the vet.
Still there.
Yep.
And we go to the performance center.
And we're just chatting about content to make for the WWE.
We make a couple videos.
We chit-chat with some people.
Finn Balor.
Ooh.
Okay.
We didn't make anything with him.
He just came in with his family.
Yeah, he was there.
You guys got so excited.
There was literally a hi, my name's Pat.
And the social or the digital guy that,
I don't want to say his name
because he said the last time I said his name,
like a bunch of people hit him up for a job.
I didn't want to say his name.
But he introduced me to him.
He was like, oh, he's working for us now.
That guy is incredibly handsome.
Yeah, he hasn't had a carb since 2004.
Honestly,
I'm not sure he knows what a sandwich tastes like.
Not a chance.
It's sad
for his taste buds.
Incredible for his body.
Yeah.
He is a handsome, handsome man.
Meet him, do some things.
Then the NXT tapings are happening over at Full Sail.
I check in at Full Sail.
Michael Cole just started this internship program at Full Sail University.
I get to sit in on the orientation of the first class.
That was good.
Let's go back in the classroom.
No big deal.
I have some questions.
I didn't bring a pencil or a paper, though, so everybody seemed to be judging me heavily. go back in the classroom. No big deal. I have some questions.
I didn't bring a pencil or a paper, though, so everybody seemed to be
judging me heavily. I was like, yo, I'm not used to
this bullshit. I didn't go to class.
I don't know what this is.
It was a good time. And then,
Mike, what's up? Joe?
Oh, shit. Yo, I hit a frog
splash today. Oh, man.
That was awesome. You were up in the air.
You were up in the air you were up in the air man
i went for that that was not my first one of the day i'm gonna be honest when you get up on that
top rope it is very high very yeah you're just standing up there you're like okay i know this
is a because they have a uh like a very soft rig that they get to try stuff off the top rope before you go to an actual rig.
Oh, yeah, okay.
And when you stand up there,
you know that you're landing on a very soft surface.
But I'm like probably 14.
My head is probably 14.
I was going to say that the turnbuckle is probably about five foot,
and then the ring is probably about four and a half foot off the ground.
That's nine feet.
Just not an accurate statement.
Was that math wrong?
Oh, I guess you're right.
You did.
You nailed that, man.
That was really good math.
Thank you.
Zito thought he was going to have a field day.
It's like winning Jeopardy or anything.
You get the fucking right answer.
Oh, sorry.
What is nine?
But yeah, so the first one I did a frog splash.
Wasn't as committed.
And I land.
Foxy's filming. By the way, nobody else is in that area.
We snuck in there so I could do this.
Nice.
Yeah, perfect.
No way I'm supposed to be doing what I'm doing.
No way.
Like, there's no chance.
So the first one I hit, I land. land foxy's filming and i stand up to go
look at it and obviously i look nowhere near as committed in the video very obvious but my body
like my chest and like my my back they sent like a yo what the fuck's going on message to my brain
i've never felt anything like this before.
Never felt anything like it because I was landing on a dummy,
like a rubber person that they do for CPR class.
I was landing on that.
It wasn't like a soreness.
It wasn't a pain.
It was just like a, almost like an ache you would get from something
from like four different parts of my rib cage and my back.
And it honestly felt like my body was like,
we don't do that.
You know?
And then after like 10 seconds, it went away.
And I was like, okay, it went away.
Now the body knows what's coming, right?
Let's assume that the old McAfee body
just did a quick little, all right, we can handle this now.
So I go right back up to the top rope.
Foxy goes, oh, we're going slow-mo here.
Foxy goes slow-mo.
And when something's on slow-mo, as the person who's on the camera, you have to know when people are watching this, they're going to see every single moment.
So even your look right before, if you're scared at all, that's going to be on somebody's screen
for four or five seconds while you're just sitting
there.
While I'm climbing up to the top
turnbuckle, I'm having a full conversation in my
head like, everybody's going to see if you're a
bitch or not right now.
You get up here and you just
fucking set your feet and you fucking
go. I'm talking
to myself while almost falling off the turnbuckles because my jeans are too tight.
I'm in a bad spot and I get up there and I do.
I do like this arm spread thing.
Oh, yeah.
Before I go to jump, I like look down to the ground and I pause for like a second.
Don't be a bitch.
look down to the ground and I pause for like a second.
Don't be a bitch.
And I go and I tried to make,
I tried to jump as high as I possibly could off of that thing.
And I feel like if I was to pull that off with a real rig,
I might break every bone in my body.
But it would get a hell of a pop.
Your hair was flowing in slow-mo?
That was amazing, by the way.
Because it's starting to grow a little bit. Oh, yeah. The jump was
impressive, but you went fucking full
extendo on the frog splash.
You went D'Lo Brown-esque.
I was like, I wonder what he's going to do. Because it was in slow
motion. I'm thinking as you're jumping. Is he going to go
D'Lo Brown or is he going to go Eddie Guerrero?
And you went D'Lo Brown, full extend,
full arms between the legs,
pumped him out there.
I mean, I felt pretty good.
You were floating.
I felt pretty good.
And then when I tried to get up, my jeans were too tight.
I couldn't step over the rubber.
My body almost fell.
So, I mean, that was a pretty cool moment.
That was while we were leaving the performance center to go to full sale
for the nxt taping so we everybody else was kind of leaving and we literally snuck like through a
back door and i was like yo we got to get back to that padded ring we got to get back because that
was where i did the leg drop from on the last one so we go over to full sale we get a tour do the
orientation we're kind of wrapping up like our first 24 hours
with the NXT tapings happening there.
I have a full conversation with the coolest dude on earth,
Michael Cole.
And he's chit-chatting about ideas for us.
I think he's, by the way, the Lake Tahoe thing,
I think he's in.
Let's go.
That's huge.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think he's in. Everybody's go. That's huge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he's in.
Everybody needs to know that me getting invited to this Lake Tyler Pro-Am thing is going to
be a fucking great thing for everybody.
Oh, yeah.
The content that we are going to pull out of that thing.
I don't know if we should.
Yeah, we should announce it.
Yeah, let's do it.
Yeah, I think so.
We are in the middle of a sale.
Maybe we'll wait a week.
You know, they got a nice little treat right now.
Maybe if we hit a certain numbers of shirts we sell, you'll break it out.
Something to think about.
Huh.
Huh.
There we go.
Okay.
All right.
I have a number in my head.
We hit it tomorrow.
We hit that number by the end of day Thursday.
Big news comes out.
Oh, big news comes out. Oh.
Big news comes out next week.
Because I have to get it okay that I say it,
which I have to go through some channels
because this will be a pretty big deal if this happens.
But
we'll announce it
next week as opposed to in July.
So it'll give us, you know, we'll announce
what we're doing instead of... Break your news. We'll break news next week as opposed to in July. So it'll give us – we'll announce what we're doing instead of –
I like that.
Yeah, break your news.
Break your news.
We'll break news early.
Yeah.
Which will be – I think it might revolutionize golf to be honest.
We'll see.
I think so.
People are saying it.
You're not saying it.
Yeah, not you.
Yeah, I'm just quoting.
Oh, yeah.
Just the reviews.
So then our Michael Cole conversation is wrapping up.
We're covering everything that – like, you know, the plan. WrestleMania is coming up, conversation is wrapping up. We're covering everything.
Like, you know the plan.
WrestleMania is coming up, so we've got to cook up some stuff for WrestleMania.
This is becoming such a really fucking incredible opportunity.
It's been awesome, by the way.
They're letting us just dive into the vault and just create content.
That's amazing.
Do whatever you want, man.
It's like perfect for you too
because that's exactly what you needed
was people to just be like,
hey, this is what you can do.
Go ahead and free reign, you know?
Well, that is the interesting thing
because I've been talking to all these other people
and I feel like if I was to work for other people,
which might still happen, by the way,
WWE would not be my main thing.
They're just allowing me to be a contributor for WWE.
These other companies, I feel like, are going to very much,
I don't want to say tell me what to do.
I'm not great at it.
I'm not great at being told exactly.
I'm not great at being told what to do.
I'm just not.
I think my entire life.
I mean, in third grade, I walked out on my teacher's class
and I said, keep it true.
That's like a revolt out of my head.
I mean, this is just something I'm not great at.
And it's why I retired, to be honest.
So it was a perfect situation where they literally, they were just like, yeah, we believe in you, man.
Just whatever you need from us, we'll help you as much as possible.
We'll tell you what we think could work.
And you just do whatever the hell you want to do.
We don't want to censor you at all, they said.
We do not want you to become a WWE guy.
We just want you to enjoy our content, which you do,
and then create content for us.
I'm like, yeah, you got it.
So it's been very cool.
So while that conversation is wrapping up,
dapping up, wrapping up that conversation.
Yep, yep, yep.
Michael Cole goes, do you want to call a match tonight?
I was like, yep, yep, absolutely.
He was like, okay, let me go see was like, uh, yep. Yep. Absolutely. And he was like,
okay, let me go see.
Goes in,
asks Mr. H.
Oh,
Mr. H.
Okay.
H,
H,
H.
And Mr. H goes,
absolutely.
We got a dark match tonight between Punishment Martinez.
Ooh,
good name.
From Puerto Rico,
six foot six.
Oh,
oh,
big boy.
He's going against Adam Cole.
Wow.
That's cool.
Adam Cole still in a dark match.
Well, full circle here.
Right?
Adam Cole is basically the reason why the WWE even knew who I was.
Yeah, sure.
He got one after me, basically, on Twitter.
He extended an opportunity for me to go after him.
He called me a dork because I was wearing jorts.
So he's un-American.
Everybody knows that.
You can choose to like him or not.
It's up to you.
He's just an un-American man.
It's up to you.
But he's the reason I got in.
And then the first match, literally, I get to call is an Adam Cole match.
And it was like we're like an hour out from it.
We'd been up at this point for 12, 13 hours doing stuff.
So we do a quick basic bitch run.
Straight to Starbucks, pick up an Earl Grey.
You know the deal.
Mm-hmm.
We see Glenda and that thing.
Took that to the head.
Took a couple little vitamins.
Need them.
Introduced.
I got introduced.
Okay.
Onto the stage, because it was onto the stage
because it was
on the stage in front of the crowd.
Average pop.
It was positive. It wasn't
booze. I was expecting some booze.
These super wrestling fans
don't love the cuzzy here.
They don't love
your friend here.
They're not the biggest fans.
Don't learn.
Let me tell you why.
For people that are listening to this show that know nothing about the WWE,
thinking about possibly getting in the WWE,
which you should, because I think
at some point I'm going to get an open mic with them.
We're going to be able to dig into some real stuff.
We're not a die-hard full-time wrestling blog, podcast, something like that.
In the wrestling community, it is a tight-knit one, right?
It's a real thing.
And there's a lot of personalities that dedicate their entire careers to the WWE,
Ring of Honor, AEW, New Japan, everything like that.
So when somebody who isn't like that gets an opportunity with their dream job and they're either the person they're a fan of,
the wrestling personality that they're a fan of,
or the wrestling personality himself,
that's obviously going to be something that's going to be met with some negative response.
After watching Dr. Bull, I understand the psychology behind it.
And Dr. Phil, I understand like, yeah, I would probably hate me too if I was you guys.
To be honest, like, yeah, I would hate you too.
If this was football and they gave a job to somebody else instead of me,
I'd probably be like, yo, I hate this guy.
But with that being said, pretty positive response from people.
Not big, but positive.
And then I sit down in the commentary team with one of the most electric voices
in the history of combat sports, Mauro Inalo.
Oh, nice.
Mama Mia.
Mama Mia.
Mama Mia.
He's called everything.
He's been Connor McGregor, Floyd Mayweather.
He calls all the NXT stuff. He calls everything. Conor, McGregor, Floyd, Mayweather. He calls all the NXT stuff.
He calls everything.
He calls boxing.
He's an electric Canadian man.
Nigel McGuinness.
Okay.
Nigel.
Magician.
And his documentary on WWE Network is worth a watch.
And Percy.
And we had a great time for the match.
And boy, I was wide open.
They were dying to see me.
That's awesome.
I was wide open, man.
Can I say one thing, too?
That photo leaked of you coming out on stage,
and it reminded me of the photo of the guy who created the character.
It literally looked exactly the same besides the cutoff hoodie.
You just had the cutsy across the chest.
And I was like, yep, this is exactly the same
as that guy made that character.
It was like they gave me
it was just like playing music. It was almost
like what Foxy's like
copyright free vlog
music.
It's what it came out
to and
not a bad response.
I did a clap to them. did a thank you i did like uh
you know the polite respectful there's a guy sitting because the commentary desk is right to
the left the stage is like or the ring is like back to the right so you're sitting away from
the place so i zigged to go to the ring i would have had to zag so i went down some back steps
there was a guy sitting right by the thing that had a pit shirt on and he was like, he actually
said, Cousy! And he had the pit thing.
Like, can I take a picture
with you? I was like, sure. And I see
the camera following me
and I go and take a selfie with this guy
and he's bobbling his phone around.
He's bobbling his phone around. Very nice guy.
And I'm like, what are people thinking?
You know, like I just walk up and take a selfie
with a guy. So then they didn't tell Nigel or Percy that I was coming up there they did tell more
over and all of them so I walk up on the stage to Dapper Percy very nice guy he's like friends with
us Nigel same thing and then they sit down they have no idea that that three person table that
not only is three people built wide,
that they all have to slide down and I'm coming in.
We are sitting like, we look like the NFL on Fox show
where there's like nine people.
That's what we look like four wide, right?
So it's a hilarious scene to begin with.
And I let her fly in there, man.
I had a good time.
Let's go.
That's awesome.
What would you let rip?
Any good one-liners there?
This one I felt good about.
I've been waiting on this one.
And it was a perfect opportunity.
Before the match starts, 6'6", Punishment Martinez takes on Adam Cole,
who is not 6'6".
Okay, smaller. And I go, Adam Cole looks is not 6'6". Okay, smaller.
And I go, Adam Cole
looks like a toddler here.
Like the toddler word.
He also looks like a kid
whose parents hate vaccines.
He's got no shot.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
Get him, baby!
Yes!
I feel so good.
I feel so good about it.
That was the first thing I said, basically.
Other than complimenting Mauro Ranallo
for his very freshly done hair
that looks incredible.
I mean, he looked...
This jet black hair.
It looked incredible.
Complimented that.
Smart.
Very smart.
Had to do that show some respect
but that was my first real comment
and as soon as I said vaccines
I felt the other three guys
like eee
eee
I don't know bro
I had a great time
can't tell you who
can't tell you who won or lost
I have some respect for the biz Zito
pay fav to, Zito. Come on. Pay faith, biz.
Sorry, sorry.
Pay faith to biz, Zito.
You're right, you're right.
But it was originally a dark match.
I'm not sure if it's going to be a dark,
because things started happening that they did not tell me about.
Like, more things started happening, and I'm just sitting out there.
I'm like, well, fuck it.
Here we go.
Yeah, yeah, let's watch.
Yeah, okay.
I'm like, what?
At one point
I am reclined back on my seat
Because there's no room at the table
I literally look like I'm sitting on our little
Recliners out there just watching
Stuff I have jorts and a t-shirt
Vaping on your chest right below your chin
What's that
I said vape pen on your chest right below your chin
Looking around.
I was just sitting there.
It was like hour 14 of the day.
I was just like having the time of my life.
And then it ended with a big moment, obviously.
And in the air, they say, let McAfee take it home.
Wow.
Which means two commercials.
Showing the end of everything that was happening
it was a
freighter moment
it was a freighter field goal moment happening
and I was there for it
that's awesome
they give you the countdown in the ear
this is the thing that
I mean we
I've talked about on the show that when I did a
WWE show there's four voices in my head, including mine, because they're just there's ears.
There's earplug things that you're wearing headset where people are talking to you.
That's not going live.
And they're doing a countdown.
Like, I assume this is like real, real journalist shit, real TV thing.
Like 15, 14, 13, 12 to commercial commercial and I'm talking this entire time okay and what
you never want to do is be the guy that ends with seven seconds left because you cut it off too
early right oh no and I think you in my head very high watching people do these things where I know
now that they're being counted down and their timing is either slow or late in my head I'm always like never be the guy like I I ingrained in myself like if you're
ever in a situation don't be the guy that cuts off early so seven seconds left I don't even even
have an end in my head yet I didn't even have an end to the sentence in my head four seconds I get
two sentences out somehow in like three seconds. I was like,
I'm like,
it's all going. And then at like
three seconds, I was like, we got to get out of here, man.
We literally have to get out of here.
My last send-off is about
it looks
like,
you know that guy that's at the
Papa Shot just draining balls?
Yeah.
That's what the words look like coming out of my mouth.
It's like auctioneer, man.
I was like, I'm excited to be here with the NXT, the greatest superstars on earth.
Who?
How?
Right.
Imagine if that was a Zito countdown.
What's that?
Imagine if that was a Zito countdown.
What?
Like five, three.
I think you might have trained me for this with all the weight loss
going through an iPhone,
FaceTime room to room.
I'm alive out of from five.
So for the people who don't know,
what's a dark match.
Dark match is one that they're not going to put on TV.
It's just for the in-house crap.
So it's because you got to remember that whenever they film their TV
shows, it's also, you've got to remember that whenever they film their TV shows,
it's also you've got a couple thousand people in-house
that are trying to have a show as well.
So there's dark matches that aren't for TV.
It's just for the in-house crowd.
Oh, that's awesome.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
But a lot of things happen, though, in this.
I think you might have lied to me.
Or maybe they, I don't't know i think the plan might
have been like this is a dark match let's see how he does yeah dark match is usually fun that's like
where they experiment a lot and try a lot of different things because it's just it no one's
it's not just get the real reaction right yeah yeah so they get a little nuts sometimes it was
really it was pretty cool they're awful they're gonna give us all of the they're gonna give us
the whole thing nice for this uh first day for this first day of the job thing.
So we're going to have that whole thing.
I'm pretty excited.
Yeah, I mean, that didn't sound like a real first day for most people.
How about Michael Kola?
You want to call Matt for like an hour?
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, sure. Do you want You want to call Matt's in like an hour? Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, sure.
Do you want to come to Lake Tahoe?
You scratch my back, I'll scratch your back.
Yeah, that's him scratching my back.
Awesome, though.
There's not a lot of people scratching Michael Cole's back.
A lot of Michael Cole helping me out, man.
That was incredible.
And then I come back.
Mr. H comes, shakes my hand with a smile and a laugh.
And everybody else, same thing.
It was like a – I will say this.
The people that work for the WWE, it's like a family, right?
It is.
Everybody knows everybody.
Yeah.
They're pretty – I feel like a lot of them want us to succeed.
Yeah.
They want me to succeed.
They genuinely, and they're good people.
So every time you see them, it's just handshake,
or are you working up for a handshake hug?
It depends who it is.
So for Mr. H?
Mr. H, strictly a handshake.
Keep it away.
He gave me a Bill Pullian body tap today, too, to see if I was fatter.
Nice.
You're working up to the hug there it was like it was either a get out of the way it was either like after we
shake hands like a rip move he was trying to rip through you yeah but it was like a pat almost real
tight quarters backstage at this full sale real tight so there's not a lot of room. It's very tight.
It's a one-lane
road that you've got to beep at the bridge.
You know what I mean?
You've got to beep at the bridge. You've got to beep down and then go
right past. Yes, it's exactly
like that backstage at
some places. No, Zito.
Yeah, yeah.
But I'm so ingrained from like
scouts and stuff doing this.
When you come back from offseason,
they pat you.
There's no way that's not for to see
if you were fat or not.
I got that a lot because
I mean, my weight,
easy come, easy go.
Imagine how many people pat Donnie Eddie Lacey.
Exactly.
That's exactly.
That guy got a lot of them.
And AQ Shipley, by the way, probably got a lot of them.
Oh, boy.
Probably still has some coming, too.
I would assume.
Hey, how's that?
After the knee, huh?
Are we comfortable?
I saw you golfing a little bit there with McAfee.
How fat are you?
It's been cool, though.
So now we're here.
And this has been a crazy night for sports.
We missed it.
I came out.
I checked the internet.
Fucking Nike stock is going to bust.
Oh, yeah, man.
It was bad.
It was real bad.
His entire foot was outside.
It looked like it was a generic shoe like you would if i used to get
velcro shoes from like walmart and shit and show up at places yeah and it felt like the bottom
would rip off like that because it was sewed together by a terrible nylon the bottom of my
kicking cleats nike always would start to peel off but I always assumed it's because it's such thin leather with such a thin base,
and I'm ripping it across the ground sometimes and stuff like that, so I would have to change my shoes.
I don't think I've ever seen anything like this with a very high-end company.
The biggest, and Mike Greenberg, Greeny posted something,
this is the most pop culture relevant team in recent history of any sport he said oh
yeah yeah the numbers to prove it he was like prices are 148 percent up whenever they're it's
like the miami heat back in the day obama was there yeah president 44 had like a video clip
of him saying is that the nike shoe ripping so that's what i'm yeah he's saying he broke a shoe that was he was i honestly great night for barack obama great yeah a lot of face time for him he was the
first person i think he might have been the first it was him and coach k it was a tight shot at
coach k and he was over his left shoulder and you could see him saying that mouthing it zion and
obama were the only two that knew Nike's career was over.
For a moment in time, for a moment in time.
No, there's honestly, there's no way a shoe will ever do that again.
You would think?
You would hope not? Well, I mean, at least if they're not going to the Duke basketball team.
It's one thing if I buy a Nike shoe and that happens,
but if Zion William williamson the most
high profile basketball player right now that happens then yeah nike might want to think about
using an extra seam or something you know if you're zion though do you like boycott these
shoes like do you say fuck these shoes zion just hopes that his knee's okay that's what i'm saying
but like if this could happen again you know you don't want this to happen obviously it's what I'm saying, but if this could happen again, you don't want this to happen. What this does for Zion is open up a contract bidding war for shoes that is going to be next level with Nike potentially coming ridiculously over the top to say I'm sorry.
So are you saying this is a setup job?
No, I don't think it's a setup job, but I think he's going to make more money from Nike off of this than fucking Duke.
That's very true.
That's what I think is going to happen because Nike, you've got to remember,
Nike is all about being liked.
Being liked, that is their thing.
We would like to be liked by millennials, a younger group.
That's their thing.
They've completely changed their marketing.
Not that they changed it, but that is their marketing.
That is what Nike wants to appease to.
The biggest superstar of that market, the biggest superstar of that market in sports,
Zion Williams.
That's who it is.
Videos of him have been coming out from this generation for the last 10 years of this dude
dunking since he's like eight years old from the fucking foul line.
People saying he won't be able to do this in college.
He picks up and gets better when he
gets to college because he's with better teammates.
Nobody thought about that. And then
all of a sudden, the biggest
god, basically,
to their business market
almost,
embarrasses their shoe out of
nowhere. This is going to come
on the backside for Zion so big.
And I hope he's healthy.
That kid is some of the most must-see TV on earth right now.
Yeah, it would be a bummer to go into March without Zion Williamson for sure.
I looked at his knee.
Was it like a hyperextension?
It looked like a little bit of a hyperextension.
So it was, I don't know.
It looked like the back of his knee, which was bothering him.
I don't know.
I saw something like PCL, but he's probably done.
There's no reason for him to play another game.
In my head, though, after you said that
Nike money, I felt like the doctor was like,
you can go back right now. And he was like,
the contracts are coming out.
I'm probably going to make a lot of money.
I think that's why Zion is so popular,
though. It's because Zion is like this
happy-go-lucky kid who
like his interviews, he says everything right because I think he is everything that's right.
I honestly think he is.
And a lot of people bash LeBron for doing a lot of selfish things and saying a lot of selfish things.
So selfish.
But LeBron has been the only thing comparable to what Zion is.
What did you say about LeBron?
Oh, he's so selfish.
Thank you.
The only comparable to Zion is LeBron.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Not only in the way they play basketball and how athletic they are
and how everything like that,
but we're talking about being hyped up before your teenage years
and then living up to the hype thus far.
LeBron and Zion are the only two comparables.
And it's just Zion does everything right.
It's one of those things where I think we're very lucky
to be able to watch him play and watch him take off
and look down at a basketball rim at 280 pounds,
which also might be why the shoe couldn't hold up.
They're like, we're not talking Bill Finnis, dude.
The most explosive guy is 280 pounds, dude.
What are we supposed to do here?
But it's honestly, I'm excited to watch him in the NBA.
And it happened 35 seconds into the game,
and you got people like Spike Lee, Obama,
they're only there to watch Zion.
And they spent what?
Those tickets were like three grand, weren't they?
Yeah, they were up to like two eight or something.
Three grand was row seven.
Yeah, I can't imagine courtside.
It was number two.
It was the second most expensive ticket to the Super Bowl.
Let's also remember that you're not just paying to sit courtside to watch Zion.
You're also sitting courtside with the former president.
You're sitting courtside.
I was at a Super Bowl party.
The price changed 4X because Justin Bieber showed up while I was negotiating the party.
New price, sorry.
High profile client.
You just got Rick Pawn starred.
We're in a new time now.
And then I couldn't go to the bathroom when I got in because it said high profile clients.
Security was blocking people off so he could go pee.
So I had to pay four times the amount and almost pissed my pants.
Good party, though.
Was it?
I don't know.
I think I left.
I'm out of here.
I couldn't even move because the high-profile client was in there.
It was fact.
I couldn't do anything.
But that sucks for Zion.
I mean, it's terrible.
He's going to get rich, though.
He's going to get broken off still.
It sucks for that Duke team, man.
Oh, man.
They were really starting to click.
Yeah, and they looked bad without him.
I mean, UNC's good.
Granted, they're number eight in the country.
Oh, yeah.
Without Zion, I mean, I think they scored 60 points in the paint.
Let's go Tar Heels.
Is that your team?
I'm alumni.
I took a class there once.
It was an online course
Honestly I think that is technically what an alumni is
Because people tell me I'm an alumni of WVU
And I never graduated
Exactly
I don't get court side seats and stuff
But I'm an alumni
I could have been me and 44
Right next to each other last night
Well that was a dude
That is true That is very true 344 right next to each other last night. Well, that was a dude.
That is true.
That is very true.
That's crazy news.
Anything else happen?
If you want to talk about it, we ate some very, very dangerous chocolate today.
Yeah, the chocolate.
Okay, so what happened?
Oh, man.
I'm going to be completely honest. This was the worst experience of my life.
I'm still hurting from it, and we did it at 345, I think, 4 o'clock.
It's not pleasant.
It's still sitting there.
It still feels quite – it feels like a knot in my stomach right now.
Explain what you ate.
What did you say?
Explain what you ate.
All right.
So basically what Fuego Box is doing is this little choco challenge
for prostate cancer.
And what they have are these little square chocolates.
They're basically the size of like a, what's it called?
A Ghirardelli?
Ghirardelli, yeah.
It's the size of a Ghirardelli.
Ghirardelli.
And it's essentially the worst possible thing you could put in your mouth.
I mean, as soon as you, it was like swallowing smoke.
It was awful.
I am going to go ahead and say they're crybabies.
I ate that so fast, and it was so easy.
Zeke did.
Ty, I'm sorry.
What'd you say, Ty?
No, yeah, Zeke.
I mean, Zeke made everyone look pretty bad.
Yeah, he's a freak.
I'm going to say I could probably take Sasquatch on now.
After I ate that thing, I'm on cloud nine right now.
I was crying like a little schoolgirl.
I almost threw up about four times.
I couldn't breathe.
My eyes swelled up.
I couldn't see at one point.
I thought I was going blind.
I was walking around the office.
I can't see.
Oh, well.
So basically five of us ate it.
So it was Nick, Connor, Diggs, Todd, and myself.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, man.
Diggs pulled the most Diggs shit ever.
Don't throw him under the bus.
This motherfucker.
This motherfucker.
He's not here.
This motherfucker.
He took his wrapping, the little Ghirardelli chocolate that comes in the little wrapping.
He went ahead, threw the Ghirardelli out, put an Oreo in, and decided to do the old
fake switcheroodie on us and acted like he ate half a real one
when he was really just eating half an Oreo.
He sat there.
He started breathing all heavy like he was faking an orgasm.
Oh, man.
Jesus.
Where did he tell you?
Like 20 minutes after, I think.
We knew.
We knew.
The way he was walking around afterwards.
Like, come on.
I had no idea.
I had my shirt off, spitting into the sink,
trying to get any sort of life back into my lungs.
Todd's face turned the darkest shade of red
I've ever seen a human body turn.
I thought his head was going to explode.
My favorite part was Ty just watching us all,
and then him going,
yeah, I'm actually just not going to do this.
of ty just watching us all and then him going yeah i'm actually just not gonna do this i guess this chocolate's just covered in uh ghost pepper shavings yeah is the trick and i broke it
in half because i was like i want it in one spot in my mouth i don't want to spread it all over my
mouth i want i broke it in half i put it in my mouth and then at some point through the two
fingers i broke in half with i rubbed my eyes with because it was so hot mouth, and then at some point through, the two fingers I broke in half with, I rubbed my eyes with
because it was so hot.
And then they were done for.
I couldn't see.
You got pepper sprayed?
It was bad.
Pepper sprayed myself.
It was bad.
The old ghost pepper spray.
I mean, you know what it's like.
You've eaten one before.
You ate one with Sasquatch.
At Reaper, yeah.
Because I think there's Reaper pepper in that, too.
Yes.
Oh, man.
You obviously got it way worse because you had the actual seeds and stuff.
Yeah, this was a nightmare.
I don't know how you did that.
Well, I dumped milk on my face.
We didn't have any milk.
Gorman comes over.
Hey, do you need anything?
I was like, Gorman, get the fuck away from me, all right?
Ran over to the gas station, grabbed like a gallon of milk and as many waters as he could grab.
We tried getting Gorm to do it.
He kept back.
He stayed at broken rib.
Oh, well,
yeah, because then you ate it and then you could
feel it go the whole way down your throat
into your midsection and then just sit
in your stomach and it was still burning
hours later. I ate sushi right after,
Pat. I ate sushi right away after.
I was so hungry. I was like, I want more.
I want to say another piece. Are you certain
that Zito didn't digs it?
No, I didn't.
No, he ate it.
Zito did it.
Because I saw him splashing his tongue under the sink like he was a dog,
just lapping water into his mouth.
So he suffered for about two minutes.
It didn't affect me like they did, but it stays on your tongue, though.
So you have to get rid of it somehow, or it'll just stay there.
So I just put some water on her and wash it down hey that's how i found out that uh zito thoughts was not actually
you how'd you do that oh you told me last night because he tweeted down d-o-w-n instead of d-a-h-n
i was like that was the only confirmation that i've ever had that it wasn't you
i almost uh have him uh almost had him give me the login
and I gave it to somebody else.
What? Suspension.
I almost gave him a suspension there for
using the wrong time.
Three day suspension.
Okay, so let's
talk about Choco Challenge.
Yeah, Choco Challenge, yeah.
I guess money's going to prostate cancer, though,
because prostate cancer research.
Yep.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thank God it's not going to the cancer itself.
Thank God we're not teaming up with the cancer.
Yeah.
We're teaming up with the fuego.
That'd be fucked up.
I'll tell you, I might need a new prostate after eating that, though.
Once I shit this thing out, I'm afraid of what's going to happen.
Seriously.
I'm pretty sure.
Hey, you guys raised money for prostate cancer fundraising and research.
That's awesome.
Let's go.
Round of applause.
Hey, here we go.
Hey, how about you guys?
Hey, how about us, huh?
May have given you colon cancer, but, you know.
What did you say, Seth?
You know, I may have given you colon cancer, but that's, you know,
besides the point.
Hey, we're saving the front, not the back.
All right.
I can't wait to watch the videos.
You guys all recorded yourself.
I can't wait to see that.
What else happened?
Anything?
Nothing.
Yeah, I don't think so.
Honestly.
I mean, at least in the, I'm trying to think of in the sports world,
if any, if any.
Chicago Blackhawks continue their hot run.
5-4 win in overtime.
Patrick Kane extends the point streak to 19 games.
Oh, Patty Kane with the shot.
And that's hockey talk.
There it is, baby.
We had an incredible – thank you all so much for listening, by the way,
to us in a hotel and them in a studio past midnight here.
FaceTiming, computer to humor.
And also, computer, shout out
to Ty Schmidt's sleep schedule.
It's going to be a fun night.
I loved it.
So we all thank you so much for listening.
Thank you guys for sticking around late too. Foxy's
about to die. I am as well.
Before I left, I was in Indianapolis.
Before I left, I got a chance to talk to an old teammate of mine
about probably the most topical thing for the NFL in recent history, I think.
I mean, there's probably a lot of combine talk and shit going on like that,
but the Colin Kaepernick settlement, pretty large.
I got a chance to chat with an old teammate of mine
and I think it was pretty good.
Oh yeah, get a little AB insight too.
Oh yeah, and Antonio
Brown stuff. I mean, two
very...
The most topical things really in the NFL
right now. You got it all.
Insight information too.
Yeah, best friend information.
Yo,
let's just get to that now.
You think we should just get to that now?
Yeah,
let's just,
let's just roll it.
You know,
let's get to that now.
Maybe get to it now.
Right now.
Hashtag get to it now.
Picture of Ty Schmidt waking up tomorrow morning.
Miserable.
Yeah, he's not sleeping.
Or send him a motivational text to enjoy his life a little bit,
even though his schedule is the worst in America.
Oh, man, you really want to piss him off, huh?
Yeah, don't do that.
Let's get to it or get to it now.
Get to it now.
Hashtag get to it now. Let's get to it or get to it now? Get to it now. Hashtag get to it now.
Let's do that.
Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now,
he was a draft picker of the New England Patriots,
then he came to the Indianapolis Colts.
Lockdown, slot corner.
Then he was a safety.
Played in the league for nine years.
He has a new podcast called the D-Up Podcast
with his friend Danielle.
It's a must listen.
Ladies and gentlemen, make some noise
for the UConn product,
Darius Butler.
What's up, man? What's up?
What's up? Hey, how are you, man?
I'm great, man.
How are you? I'm engaged.
Yes, I'm not as good as you. I saw that, man.
I saw that.
I hope nobody I fucking proposed to saw that shit.
I got a lot of those messages.
Chuck Pagano sent me one.
He said, congrats.
You know, congrats.
I hope everything's working out great.
Thank God fucking Tina didn't sheetish before I proposed.
I know that's right, man.
Shit.
I appreciate that.
Big time though, man.
Well, you're a dad.
I'm nowhere near what you are, though.
You are legitimately
like dad of the year.
I didn't,
I met Darius.
He gets traded to the Colts.
You got traded to the Colts, right?
I know.
I got cut from the Panthers, actually.
And then I got picked up by the Colts.
So I'm kind of
about third game of the season.
Yeah, you come in.
I think you had like two picks in your first practice, literally.
I think you had two picks in your first practice.
Yeah, you did.
And I was like, holy fuck, what is this guy?
And then I started learning about you, and I had no idea.
And then in the offseason, I think it was back whenever I was using Snapchat,
you were on Snap, and it was you and your kids.
I'm like, this guy's fucking dad of the year.
I had no idea.
I had no clue.
Yeah, I keep my kids and all that stuff.
I kind of keep that private for the most part.
Snapchat, obviously, people who I'm cool with,
they see my kind of day-to-day life.
But I kind of keep them out of everything else.
But obviously, a huge, huge part of my them out of everything else but um obviously a huge huge
part of my life yeah well you're a great dad and you're a great man and i want to you were the first
person i thought of whenever this whole colin kaepernick thing both not only started but now
that it's it's ended because your dad was in the military for 11 years in the army you were you kneeled during a couple of the national anthems early
to stand up for your community and your culture now that the entire thing has come to an end
uh i don't want to i don't want to say that there's mixed reaction larry johnson was very
open in his uh disagreement with what colin kaepernick happened a lot of the world very
much behind colin kaepernick happened. A lot of the world very much behind Colin Kaepernick
in everything, the conversation that he started,
the settlement, everything like that.
I honestly feel, and this might be me feeling white guilt,
but it's 100% true.
I think as a white person and an NFL player,
I was asked my thoughts on it.
I'm like, yo, honestly, it's not something
that I fucking know anything about. I wouldn't have a guess. I think if people want to stand up for
something, I'm cool with that. However it is. How was your thought on the entire Colin Kaepernick
situation? For me, it was one big PR situation between the left and the right, black and white
military. And I mean, it all became a PR disaster, but from the whole situation, how do you feel
that Colin Kaepernick's situation
really helped or hurt everything in the long haul of this real world we live in
and not just football?
Well, when he first started, you know, the protest, obviously, you know,
it hit home for me.
And, you know, because of, like you said, it's a lot of things that, you know,
just a lot of people have no idea what people deal with.
You know, people think 2018 and 2019, whatever it is, especially if you have money, you're
an athlete, you're a black athlete, like, you're not dealing with this shit.
You're not dealing with oppression or anything like that.
But, you know, you still have family, you know, in the same communities that you grew
up in.
You still have, you know, sons, younger brothers.
And the black experience in America and the white experience in america
two completely different things even if i go back to um some of the things that my dad told me he
dealt with in the military you know while serving the country um that you know his white counterparts
didn't have to deal with so um just starting there and kind of having that 20 30 plus a year of my
own history i it hit home with me that That's the first time I talked to Colin
because I did the fist the first time I protested
and Comarty kneeled.
And then, you know, what happened with that situation.
Hey, he taught me how to play dominoes
on that flight home from England.
He was cut the next day.
That was his parting gift to you.
But yeah, but I think a lot of it's perspective. But actually, after I kneeled, you know, there was a lot of shit that happened after that.
You know, got death threats.
People were protesting outside of our facility.
And actually, Pete Ward brought some of the protesters in and was like, you know what,
would you like to sit down and just have a conversation?
You know, I was like, fuck it, let's do it.
So I sat down and it was this guy, actually was a Vietnam vet, and his wife also had served.
And he was just telling me how hurt he was that we were kneeling during National Anthem
and this and that.
And I had a conversation basically about him and about my experiences.
And we kind of came to understand.
I think for the most part, it was just a big misunderstanding from the two sides.
Like, because if you don't get my perspective,
you can't really respect what I'm standing for.
And a protest is never meant to make the people you're protesting,
in a sense, against feel comfortable.
You know what I mean?
No protest is made for people to feel uncomfortable.
So I was definitely proud of Kevin, what he did and standing up.
And then not only that, when he lost his job and, you know,
still pledging a million dollars of his own money,
and then obviously taking the NFL to court,
which nobody ever beats the NFL in court.
So settling in a sense is a win to me.
And obviously if you're suing somebody, you're suing for money.
So, I mean, I would assume he got a nice chunk of change
and he'll continue to do the work that he started doing in the community.
And, you know, he may even still play again.
I don't think he will, but it's still a possibility.
So, overall, definitely support him.
Definitely he got what he got.
But I think, you know, it was a big –
the narrative definitely got hijacked by the president for a while
and then that kind of drew a line.
But hopefully, you know, we continue to come together,
and the awareness is brought to,
and hopefully change continues to happen.
A lot of good things have come from the Players Coalition.
You know, the money's been, you know,
put in from the NFL, from other communities.
People kind of woke up and saw things they didn't see before.
So I think a lot of good, more good,
will eventually come from it than bad.
Why didn't they film your conversation
with those protesters, I wonder? Because that, I think, is what everything needed from the beginning. good more good will eventually come from it and bad why didn't they film your conversation with
those protesters i wonder because that i think is what everything needed from the beginning i've been
i've been literally saying this since day one of this whole thing because i have a lot of friends
like you included but a lot of guy and being in the locker room and feeling like yo the the
connection to the culture and the community is a very real thing in the in it's almost like
the misperception of what you guys were protesting versus how it was being spun was the problem
day one i mean it was not a problem by the way it was not a problem but it's like it did get
just twisted in two different directions that conversation you had with that vietnam vet
and those protesters would have been must-see.
That would have been a must-see clip right there.
I agree 100%, but I think people were just so afraid to have that,
just to even talk about those things.
I don't know why because it's not a secret.
Everyone knows the history of America.
Everyone knows what it's been.
It's not a terrible thing to talk about. You just got to talk about it at this point
and try to get through things.
It was beyond that. We had city hall
meetings. Keith Ward and the whole
front office of the Colts did a great job of
bringing all of us together and talking
and having... I had guys
who I would have never thought, even on my own team,
would have supported me. Vinny
hit me after one of our meetings with the ownership
and Vinny's like, hey, man, i don't want you to feel like you're selling out
man like do it do what you feel is right like this is the way in on me like you know luck has
had this conversation like people you know who i would think who i would think would look at and
be like man what the fuck are you they don't know this they're not dealing with that shit for real
but they really you know had an ear really kind of so i think that was the biggest part that was
missing i think that's where the the NFL dropped the ball in handling it
because I think, for one, the owners know the players
and you know, like, what most of these players are doing in their community,
kind of their backgrounds, where they come from,
and where they are now, what they're doing,
the positive things that they're doing.
So I think they should have stood behind their players
and then kind of tried to figure something out from there
as opposed to trying to shun them
and kind of turn a fan base
and a bunch of people against
everyone else instead of just start having real
conversations. And then you start
that's when you start really
promoting and having some change.
Hey, that shit was a PR nightmare, man.
It was bad. Oh, it was terrible.
It was terrible. I hit the
little tiny little hammer
off the anvil.
I think I was the first one to do it.
I was there for the National Anthem.
That was my first time back in a stadium
during the National Anthem, right?
And the place booed. The entire place was
booing. I'm like, yo, this is
a real situation.
Was that the Browns
or the San Fran? Browns.
Okay, so yeah, that was when a bunch of us, okay, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
It was tough because that wasn't my original protest,
even though I agreed with what he was protesting for.
I think that's another thing.
With the perspective of, I would say, the majority of white America,
the sense that I got was that the issues that we were protesting,
it wasn't right.
You guys didn't feel like it was an important enough issue.
Don't you you guys me.
Hey, don't you you guys.
I'm just saying, for the people that I talked to,
it's like, okay, you can find another place to do it.
You can find another time to do it.
But if that same situation, let's say college started to kneel for, you know,
how the veterans are being treated, you know, when they come back home.
I think you've got a lot more support from even white America with him taking
that stand.
What do you think is going to happen with the LGBT community?
If somebody, if Michael Sam kneels because of how the LGBT community is, you know, it would have just got a completely different, it wouldn't have been the same PR nightmare.
It would have been handled differently.
You know, it would have been handled with more respect in a sense.
And I think that was kind of a core issue that was also not talked about.
That was kind of the elephant in the room.
A lot of people didn't think it was it was a big enough deal like especially for millionaires you know
because people just think you want to get this money like you just everybody's making 20 million
dollars a year and just you know go into this fantasy world and you know you don't deal with
these issues anymore i think honestly i think the i don't think, well, now granted, I mean, I guess you could weigh white people saying like, yeah, the oppression is a big enough problem.
They saw it as disrespect to the military.
Like if you're talking about just the basic white person in the middle of America that loves the NFL, all they were looking forward to was Sundays.
That was their escape from everything.
They were told that this was a
disrespectful thing to the military and once that happened there was no there was no coming back now
granted i do believe that they should have seen that there is a real fucking problem and i think
by the way cameras uh that started coming out police cameras and shit like that that started
happening i think started opening more people's eyes but once people thought that this was
disrespect to the military i think it lost them immediately.
And that's why I think the NFL
paying Colin Kaepernick just to make
this whole thing disappear was their
endgame from day one. It was like,
how much money can we pay this guy
to make this shit end? I honestly think
that happened. And I think that's why...
Oh, for sure. I was a part of that
meeting last year with the owners.
That was pretty much the sense that I had coming into that meeting.
Like, all right, what the fuck do we got to tell you guys or say we're going to give you guys so you can get up off the list?
We can talk about the issues at whatever point.
You know, you have to beat it to say what, you know, 11, 12 are the most powerful owners in the league.
Like, obviously, you know, they have you there for a reason.
They're trying to come to some agreement, like, right then and there.
And once that didn't happen, then it was kind of, okay.
Then he brought the lawsuit.
It was crazy.
But I think they dropped the ball from the beginning.
But hopefully, man, hopefully it goes, you know, it gets better.
I think some of this settlement, by the way,
is going to go to more money to different groups and shit like that.
I think that's a part of the settlement.
I would assume that Colin Kaepernick is not signing that settlement
unless there is an allotted amount of cash going back to the community
so that the situations where Larry Johnson sends a tweet saying he settled,
he has a rebuttal to that.
I would assume that his lawyers would do something.
I would assume that's a part of the settlement.
I don't think we'll ever hear about it, by the way,
because they all signed NDAs, can't talk about it.
Colin Kaepernick turned down $20 million to the AAFL.
I assume that's because he knew that there was a large settlement
coming within the next week or so,
because those negotiations for settlements,
that's a couple weeks in the making, negotiating.
I don't think that is something that just came out of...
Yeah, negotiating. I don't think that is something that just came out of – Yeah, at least a year.
Yeah, exactly.
Do you watch the AAFL and have any thoughts about potentially playing quarterback there like I do?
No.
I actually got offered a job to coach there kind of months ago.
Hammer, you remember Hammer, my DB coach?
He was supposed to be coaching on the team.
And he called me, hey, you know, got this new league starting,
you know, Coach Moore.
But I'm like, ah, nah.
But actually watching it, I mean, I think it has some growth potential.
It has some guys, you know, it's a lot of our former teammates in there,
you know, just fighting for another opportunity.
You know, guys are hungry.
It's a development league.
And they were smart by putting it on TV right after the Super Bowl
because everybody's so thirsty for, you know, somebody to get hit.
So, yeah, I was smart.
And then having that big hit to start it off.
So, hopefully it continues to gain some traction.
Personally, I think they should have waited a week, skipped a week,
had an off week, built up the thirst
even more than if you have that first
weekend. If you have that big hit on the
first weekend, then you're sitting in the money
instead of looking for $250 million after
week two. Everybody doesn't
fucking think like you, man. That's why you're in
WWE.
You're a fucking genius.
Everybody doesn't have a
pop business.
Let's talk about being a genius.
D-Up Podcast.
You're incredible on a microphone.
I've always thought you were very intelligent, smart, hilarious,
and probably the most fluid athlete I've ever seen in my entire life.
Are you enjoying the podcast, or how is it going?
Why did you get into it?
You know, I'm enjoying it.
You know, just kind of, you know how it is when you're in the NFL or you're in, you know, whatever team.
Like, you kind of, you can only say certain things.
Don't want to ruffle feathers.
So now I've actually been in a position where you can say what you're really thinking.
You know, not worry about those type of things.
You know, was looking forward to that.
And just talking about a bunch of things that, you know, I never really talked about being transparent or something and um you know it's really still
trying to find my niche with it um still brand new but um you know i'm having fun with it and
that's uh the most important thing for me consist i told you i think i told you this consistency is
just the biggest thing on podcast you just got to show up and that's that's the biggest thing
and then you'll find your niche we got a guy in this room named Zito. He never found his niche, but he shows up every fucking time.
One of these days I'll find it, though.
He's got his blinders on.
Yeah, he should keep his blinders on.
Have you officially retired from the football, or if an NFL team was like –
No, it's done.
I mean, I've retired.
I haven't filed the paperwork, but, yeah, I'm done.
After probably week six or seven, you you know i kind of told my agent you know obviously unless some some sweet
came across the table um you know it was a wrap for me um but i'm enjoying the other side you
know spending a lot more time with my kids um being able to go to a lot more things that i
wasn't able to go to in the past and um my fucking body feels great too hey congrats congratulations are in store here
man congrats on an incredible career i mean that is you did a hell of it you were a i i might have
told this story last time you're on the show we would have these team meetings okay they'd be on
wednesday where everything would chuck would break down how we were going to beat every team from all three phases.
So special teams would literally be like,
Pat, we need no returns from this guy.
Vinny, you need to make all your kicks.
We need big returns.
Every week, same fucking thing.
Special teams won.
Most boring one of all time.
But the offense and defensive ones, I felt like, all right, here we go.
I'm learning the football here a little bit.
There was only one motherfucker that answered every question,
and it was Darius Butler.
You were the most studied guy on the defense,
maybe even on our entire team, aside from Luck,
who has photographic memory.
What was your – you put a lot of study,
a lot of everything into the game of football,
and I don't know if that ever gets talked about enough with Darius Butler.
I'm being serious when I say that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that was actually a fun part.
A lot of people don't like that part of it,
but that was a fun part of it is trying to figure out the answers beforehand
and going to the game more prepared.
That's how you really make plays on the offense
and defense side of the ball.
The more you study.
I learned that early from coaches. I had some
great coaches in the past.
A lot of great coaches that taught me how to
watch them, how to study, how to study upon it.
I carried that throughout my
entire career.
That was fortunate.
That played a big role in a lot of
the plays that I made.
The players that last a long time is usually because of that.
It's usually because of how they watch them, how they study,
how they take care of their body and things like that.
Okay, listen.
It's a fun part of the game for me.
They're third and seven on their left 40.
They're in this show.
And Darius would be like, ah, it's going to the running back in the flat.
That's correct, yes. And then they'd be like, Vontae's going to the running back in the flat. That's correct, yes.
And then they'd be like,
Vontae, what do you got here? Hey, I don't know, dog.
I just got that guy.
Hey, man.
My guy, Vontae, man.
He just walked the fuck out at halftime.
Walked the fuck out.
Honestly,
honestly, Pat, if someone
asked you five years ago,
you had one teammate.
If you don't have one teammate in the future,
that's going to walk the fuck out of halftime.
I'd probably say me.
Who would you pick?
I want to pick you.
I appreciate that.
I have no idea.
I sent you a message the next, I think the next day.
I was like, yo, the fuck just happened with Vaughn?
It's the same day.
Same day.
I got like 10 calls.
Like, yo, is he all right?
I called him.
I talked to him.
He's like, man, you know what, man?
Timing is everything, man.
I'm like, bro, I don't know if that was the right time.
He's like, hey, man, you know, you got to live your life, bro.
He's living, man.
He's living.
He is.
He is living.
He is on social media one of the most hilarious followers right now.
He said black folks on the slopes last week.
He was snowing and skiing.
That was his caption.
He was a beast, too.
He was hitting blues.
He was hitting blues two days into it
man
on the slopes
that was his actual
he's a hilarious individual
hilarious retirement
I can't thank you enough
for joining us man
I'm going to check out
the D Up podcast
hey by the way
at the beginning
you might suck
I mean that's literally
how it is and everything
we were terrible
at the beginning
oh yeah for sure
you just got to keep with it man
you're so smart and so funny you're going to figure it out and you're going were terrible at the beginning. Oh, yeah, for sure. You just got to keep with it, man. You're so smart and
so funny. You're going to figure it out.
You're going to be an incredible person on the microphone.
Can't wait to watch you grow, brother.
Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you for having me, bro.
Hey, no problem. You know,
people ask me my favorite play in my
entire career
against Tennessee Titans at home.
I cough and cornered one out at the one.
I think the next play you had a pick six.
We won because of it.
You were always involved in my favorite play of all time,
so I thank you for that.
My guy.
You were...
Always.
You became a pick six specialist there.
Darius Butler, you know why, though?
Because that slot, whenever you know the play that's coming,
that is a pick six play every single fucking time.
Man, look, man.
Corner period.
If you know you got a good idea what's coming,
and you can jump some shit.
Because, I mean, you're at a disadvantage on defense.
You got to react to the motherfuckers who already know where they're going.
Probably bigger and faster.
So, the more you know before that snap that snaps, the better chance you got.
I appreciate you.
Ladies and gentlemen,
incredible career.
He's going to be a monster
on the microphone,
Darius Butler.
Thank you so much, man.
Appreciate you, bro.
See ya.
Great work, D-But.
All right, man.
Thank you, man.
Hey, you were incredible in there.
Honestly, you're really,
really, really, really good.
I'm excited to see what you do.
You're a talented dude.
My God, pre-day. You know, I'm going to lean on you, man, so, really, really good. I'm excited to see what you do. You're a talented dude. My God, pre-day.
You know, I'm going to lean on you, man, so keep giving me that advice.
Yeah, do what you got to do.
Literally, you'll find it.
It's just like at the beginning.
We sucked at the beginning.
I couldn't even tell you.
We were terrible.
You just got to keep at it, and you'll find your flow.
And hopefully, I've never met her, but hopefully Danielle gives you some softballs, too, where
you can tee off, and you do the same for her.
That makes you look good too.
Yeah, that's the thing.
That's the thing too, just finding out what it is I really want to fucking talk about
every week or every how often because some of the things,
I don't really want to talk about this shit.
Don't have to.
Talking about fucking relationships and culture.
I might just get one where I stick to sports and talk to different athletes.
You watch Gilbert Arenas?
Yeah, I see some of his.
I see some of his.
Also, Kevin Garnett's got a pretty good little fucking thing going.
All right, last thing before I let you go.
A.B., Antonio Brown is the talk of not only the NFL, NBA, pop culture, everything for what's going on right now.
Do you think he's sitting in a good position?
You know what?
It's tough.
He's a great player.
Great, great player.
All-time great player.
But you know how the football, the old guys are in football.
True.
You know, that distraction.
When you have that distraction tag on you, you know, that can be a bad thing.
So, you just got to keep producing at a high level.
But, I mean, Pitt kind of still has a lot of balls right now. So, he can be demanding bad thing. So he's just got to keep producing at a high level, but Pitt kind of still has him by the
balls right now, so
he can be demanding the trade, but
if they don't feel like they can find
what they want for him, he'll be
there, and that'll be a lot of friction there, so I don't know.
I think Rooney
and AB met, and I guess Rooney
said that he's open to trade
discussions to kind of let it go, but
he wants to call himself Mr. Big Chest now.
Can we rate that on a nickname fucking scale?
That's the worst I've ever heard.
From 1 to 10, it's Brick Tamlin.
Mr. Big Chest?
Yeah, that's what he calls himself.
It's better than Ronald.
He used to ask everyone to call him Ronald.
I don't know, man.
I like Ronald.
Ronald was much better.
I like Ronald, too.
He was probably benching. He was like, you know, call. I like Ronald. Ronald is much better. Ronald, too. He was probably benching.
He was like, you know, call me Mr. Big Chest.
He's going to come out and do fucking, he's going to have a leg day?
All right, call me Mr. Quad.
Mr. Big Quad.
Yo, he is fucking hilarious.
That hair, the mustache.
I don't know what's up with AP right now, man.
All right, Darius, I appreciate you so much.
I thank you so much.
Ladies and gentlemen, incredible football career, incredible podcast career that's about
to kick off.
Darius Butler.
Hey, you see what just happened there, Darius?
We just literally, you just watched us.
You watched me fuck up and not ask you a question and then make it happen.
That's the beauty of podcasting.
That's how i was right there
i just learned something right there all right i'll see you brother i can't edit that shit in
i enjoyed hearing that how about him sitting inside like the owner's meeting when they were
originally trying to talk about the whole thing and be like yeah how do we solve this as efficiently
and best as possible?
Yeah, that's crazy. That's pretty wild.
That's like a scenario where I would look around and have
one of those moments where, holy shit,
I'm in here trying to decide
the fate of my player's
brethren here and the owners. Like, I'm the one
brokering? That's insane. That is a
crazy scene to think about. I love
Darius, by the way. He's a cool dude.
Yeah, he's the man.
Cool guy. Great dad, too. Next. He's a cool dude. Yeah, he's the man. Cool guy.
Great dad, too.
Next, I never would have guessed.
Like, I know when I said that to him in the interview, it was real.
Like, he showed up, got two picks day one.
He was like, welcome to the team.
He was a hilarious dude in the locker room.
Hilarious dude.
And then all of a sudden in the offseason, he's, like, training.
And then he's got, like, 100 kids he's like training and then he's he's got like
100 kids just hanging out with him all the time he's awesome he was dad of the year type shit
he's a cool guy yeah you could tell he really liked to uh spend time with his kids too with
retirement and everything yeah true and they asked me if i wanted to come coach he basically said i
ain't fucking doing it i got some kids man it is right is right, though, about Antonio Brown.
That distraction label is a big deal.
Tim Tebow got it.
Yeah.
Yep.
You know what I mean?
That distraction label is a real thing.
Although I think we're becoming a distraction league, though.
I think it was different times a couple years ago than it is now.
You got people.
Somebody at the Giants just tweeted that.
Nothing that's in my locker do I need.
I think it was Lane in Collins. Yeah, yeah.
He's done. Yeah, he cleaned it out.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. OBJ,
Landon Collins, Antonio Brown,
like, Lev Bell.
Now, granted, that's...
I think this is going to become a pretty
regular thing. Players are about to start really...
Diva? Diva-ing it up?
You're seeing it in every sport. I i mean players are getting a lot more power
and they're taking a lot more responsibility upon themselves and the media the media loves
to jump on this stuff they love talking about the drama love it reality negativity hogs publicity
they love it and i think you're gonna want to start seeing players that are very talented
start using leverage again and it's not the first time the quarterbacks club back in the day was something that was insane that
elway marino kelly those guys are negotiating their own deals with the nfl the quarterback
club i mean this is something that isn't new but it's definitely starting to become much more
prevalent i'm excited to see how everybody deals with it yeah agents players nfl i'm excited to see how everybody deals with it. Yeah. Agents, players, NFL.
I'm excited to see how those three deal with it.
I have no idea how it's going to work.
I know nobody that's good at football that's going to head to the AAFL.
I'm joking.
A lot of my old teammates did look good out there,
but the football in general is bad.
Oh, yeah.
But it's football, man.
I saw someone sum it up, and
it was one of the things that I like to use to describe
it. It really is just a showcase
for a potential job in the NFL.
It's a developmental league.
It looks like a college all-star
game at some points, almost, like the Senior
Bowl, almost.
You can't have that high of expectations.
You just want to see these guys go out there and get another shot yeah now what you want to see is you want to see big
plays big shots big that's what you oh that's what i want to see but that's not what you're
gonna you gotta have you got a level set you gotta expect less oh yeah yeah what you're seeing is
opportunity at its finest for people that probably would either be in the arena league which nobody
watches right or in canada which only has a limited amount of spots when i did my mouth the at its finest for people. That probably would either be in the Arena League, which nobody watches,
or in Canada, which only has a limited amount of spots.
When I did my math the other day,
I said 32 teams with four quarterbacks each.
I said 128.
What I didn't add in was the Canadian Football League,
and there are two or three quarterbacks on each roster, too.
So the quarterbacks that are in the AAFL are below.
I meant to say something about that.
Oh, you were going to fact check me again.
I will say, though, are you guys going to go to an Apollo game
while you're down there in Orlando?
Who?
The Apollos.
That's where they play.
Who are the Apollos?
They play in Orlando.
They're the football team.
The AAFL team.
Double AF franchise down there?
Yeah.
Oh, I did not know that.
I had no idea that that was their name.
That's on you.
Oh, yeah.
The Apollos. Like space, because it happened. No, but idea that that was their name. That's on me. Oh, yeah, the Apollos.
Like space, because it happened.
No, but there's an indoor snowboarding.
The sun god.
Wait, wait, wait.
Indoor snowboarding?
Yeah, probably going to do it tomorrow,
because our flight's a little bit later,
and we got nothing to do all afternoon.
Nice.
Yeah.
It'll be hard not to go hit the slopes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Impossible.
I mean, I'll see you on the slopes tomorrow.
Don't let Foxy hurt himself.
Oh, no, I'm good.
I'm a good snowboarder.
Oh, yeah, okay.
You're up on a country club.
You probably is.
I bet he's a good tuber.
I don't know about snowboarder.
Hey, I am a tuber now because I'm a dense motherfucker.
Yeah.
That thing gets going with me on there.
You know what I mean?
Like, all those videos of people just getting wiped out at the bottom,
that is every time I'm on an air tube, I get going
out of control like that. That back wall
is me.
I'm coming to that back wall
because I'm thick, I'm
heavy, and the ass kind of
weighs me down.
It's going.
What's that? Inertia?
Velocity equals mass
times acceleration. V-ity equals mass times acceleration.
V-E-M times A.
And I'll tell you what.
Down near Seven Springs.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
ski resort.
Down near Foggy Goggles
slaying a few Bruce.
Next to Turtle Creek.
No, nowhere near it.
Stuff in the mountains.
They had a tubing thing.
That back wall did not deserve
whatever the McAfee family came for.
Did not.
Tim McAfee, that motherfucker was almost
riding up the top of the fence in the back.
It was a real collision.
It was like bumper cars with that goddamn thing.
You got like families like get out
The family's coming down
It's like being told you're too old to trick or treat
It's like alright man get another mountain alright
Get out of here
Go find your own slope somewhere else
I've only went skiing once
I talked to the lady that called Indiana Disgusting About this actually I've only been skiing once I talked to the lady that called Indiana Disgusting
About this actually
I've only been skiing once
She's a big time skier
Can your ankles handle it?
I think knees would be worse
I thought when you go ice skating
The inside of your ankles always hurt
Outside of my shin
Those boots
In skiing and snowboarding
Would cause that muscle that I have there to lock up immediately.
Oh, for sure.
You got to tape up.
No, I think I got to do that roller thing.
Oh, yeah.
Roll it out?
Yeah, I saw a lot of my teammates used to do it.
Never tried it.
I'm sure it's something very important.
And the famous words, ludicrous.
But I, yeah, exactly.
Roll out.
He did say that.
Let's get like Luda and roll out.
The Mauro Ranallo made a McAfee virus joke.
Oh, really?
Come on.
I missed it.
Low fringing.
Yeah, but I missed it.
I didn't even hear it.
Who knows what I was doing?
I guess he said it and I just gave him crickets.
And I made fun of pretty heavily backstage for just leaving him hanging.
Well, you know, he deserved it after saying something like that.
Come on, be a professional.
He put a sentence together with five SAT words in it,
and it was a seven-word sentence.
And I did not understand a single word he said.
It felt like I was talking to Andrew Luck again.
I've only been skiing one time, though, and it was with my roommate Reed Williams in college.
He's from Moorfield, West Virginia, which is out in the middle of nowhere in West Virginia.
Great town, by the way.
Been there.
Love the people.
But they would even tell you middle of nowhere.
You drive through mountains and a town pops up and it's filled with hilarious individuals.
And it's Moorfield, West Virginia. And individuals. And it's Moorfield, West Virginia.
And he owns a mountain in Moorfield, West Virginia.
So he wanted us to go skiing at a place called Snowshoe, which was like 45 minutes away from
Morgantown, West Virginia.
All the cool kids went here.
This is where all the cool kids went in the winter.
I'm not a snows person.
I'd rather be in the living room with a gas mask.
But that's what everybody's going to do on so we go we rent skis from wvu
they give us skis they have like this little deal for people to go you get this
you don't think we go up the goddamn lift he has no idea where he's going you got a flask
he's got a flask in his jacket there's a couple other teammates of ours as well nate sowers is
their other teammate and
another teammate. Reed's kind of
leading the way because he's been here before with other
cool people. So Reed knows. Yeah, he's like the tour
guy now for the newbies.
By the way, Reed is a man that you would follow.
Like, if Reed's doing something,
you're like, yeah, I'm going to follow this guy. Yeah, trusted.
Yes.
Academic All-American in college.
The whole thing like very smart guy
cool guy if he's saying let's do something i'm gonna do it anyways but on the slopes where i've
never been definitely gonna do it we turn right down a trail it was it was a black diamond oh boy
oh boy read it was a black diamond and we get there and you go down this trail It's downhill the trail to get to it
The lift takes you all the way to the top
The peak of the goddamn thing
You go down this trail and it pops open
And you're just waiting
There's just like an open area and there's nobody else there
Obviously there's many other places to go
And we sit there
And it's just it's called the face
It was actually called the face
And it was just straight fucking down.
It was just the face of the fucking mountains.
It's a free fall.
The face.
So we all stop and we obviously, I mean, we talk shit amongst each other and also, you
know, tour guide.
Yeah.
You're not going to go, you fucking pussy.
No, that wasn't even, it was, how did we end up here?
It wasn't like, uh, like you're soft for not doing it.
It was like, we're in a bad spot.
So Reed, it was one of the most epic things I've seen.
It was like a movie.
It was literally like a movie.
Takes the flask out of his jacket, takes a swing of it, shuts it,
throws it to my other teammate, does the jump,
throws it to my other teammate does the jump
break down
gets about
maybe a quarter to a third of the way
down the face
we're talking man death
yard sale
his skis by the way sticking into the
fucking thing
you gotta climb back fucking up to get it
so he goes down. He finally
gets like his bearings. He's sitting at like
halfway down the face. He looks
tiny to us. He's only halfway
down there. He looks fucking tiny.
And he basically just sits there and like looks up.
So the person who had the flask, it was like a movie again,
takes a swig, throws it to
somebody and fucking
straight down. Same thing. I think
they got even shorter, like boom, boom, boom down. So they're like three quarters down on the thing. I think they got even shorter,
like boom,
boom,
boom down.
So they're like three quarters down on the left reads like halfway down on
the right thing.
I ended up being the last person and it's like a lane of my friends.
And I was at the top of the fucking mountain.
They were all like looking up at me at this point.
It's the shit talking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Come on.
You motherfucker. Bitch. Nice goat point, it's the shit talking. Yeah, yeah. Come on, you motherfucker.
Let's go.
Come on, you bitch.
Nice goat cake shirt, asshole.
Exactly.
We had one of our guys who was like three-quarters of the way down there.
He looked like a fucking – the downsizing move.
He looked so small from where I was and I did the
finish of the thing.
Did the same jump that they
did, but I ain't got a chance to watch four pieces
of film.
What I learned was when they tried to do
the real skiing shit,
that's when they went down.
So in my head,
we're going straight the fuck down this thing.
Locked and loaded.
Oh, yeah.
So I literally did the jump thing and did like what I've seen in the Olympics.
Like I just tried to tuck as hard as I could.
I got a good base with these legs, and I just fucking tucked straight down the fucking hill.
And what I'm talking about, whizzing by myself.
Whizzing like vroom.
Just breaking the sound barrier
flying
dude I get down to the bottom where there's like
the there's like a lobby down there
I mean all the way down the bottom straight through
just like the fucking tube straight
have you moved at all have you broken form
at all yet no locked in
locked in the entire
way all the way down
all the way down and I get to the bottom, all the way down, all the way down. And I get to the bottom, like all the way through people that had to stop
and they had to like throw their shit because I was flying.
Yeah, right past the slow signs and everything.
Yeah, flying through like, excuse me, excuse me.
You know, like that type of thing.
I get all the way to the end.
None of my friends were there with me.
I don't know any of these yuppie ski people.
So I literally, I don't know how to undo my skis.
I sit down on like a bench
and I just see my friends
fucking hiking
up the mountain trying to get all their
shit. And then
they end up walking all the way down
and then that was, we left after that.
Everybody's like, fuck this.
That was my only time skiing
and it's
it's a wild scene.
You're a one-for-one.
I think so.
That's a win, right?
I think you'd consider that one-for-one.
I think you would.
But that could end up really bad.
I was going real fast there.
I mean, that thing just does one little thing, probably college career.
Oh, if I had to guess, Zion.
Yeah.
Yeah, then again, though, you look at that.
You dedicate 10,000 hours to skiing. You're probably Bodie Miller right now if I had to guess, Zion. Yeah. Then again, though, you look at that. You dedicate
10,000 hours to skiing. You're probably
Bodie Miller right now if you decide to do that.
Hey, we'll find out tomorrow
if those 10,000 hours start.
Here in Orlando.
Alright. That's about it.
I'm done with this you guys are you up?
yeah for sure actually
you know what
sending you into
what is
Thursday? sending you into
Friday's Heartland Radio
2.0 with Friday
bangers and to the weekend
and to the end of the St. Paddy's 2019 sale.
I have 20 shit off.
It is an interview with a man who is hilarious.
And I've learned that offensive linemen tend to be pretty hysterical human beings.
The best.
In the trenches, I told you.
With Z.
In the trenches with Z was a blog series that died quickly.
Two blogs, two great blogs.
Had a little bit of a run, though.
Had a little bit of a run.
Oh, you hired Gumpy.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, let's go.
Hashtag end game.
Hashtag end game.
Send a tweet to Gumpy.
Tell him, like, hello.
He's a good guy.
Oh, yeah.
We're going international.
We got a Cuban from Chicago and a Canadian from Canada.
We hired the only guy in Canada who doesn't like hockey.
It's great.
And that's hockey talk again.
Yeah, exactly.
Here's Nick Mangold.
Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now,
had an 11-year career in the NFL.
Every human I've talked to about this man
has described him as one word and one word alone,
and that's a legend.
He retired last spring.
He has an incredible beard, incredible personality. word alone, and that's a legend. He retired last spring.
He has an incredible beard, incredible personality.
Very lucky and thankful he's here.
Ladies and gentlemen, Nick Mangold.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Hey, incredible beard.
That thing has become a staple of the Nick Mangold, and I don't know how you do it, but I respect the hell out of you.
Well, I appreciate that.
You know, I think the biggest thing for me, and when that time came,
it was like beard time, right?
Yeah. You just stop caring what you look thing for me, and when that time came, it was like beer time, right? Yeah.
You just stop caring what you look like.
Yeah.
That's how it works.
Like, that's how you get it going and get the flow,
and you get to a point where you can then, you know,
every once in a while have to get trimmed up a little bit.
A lot of offensive linemen that I know,
the NFL season consists of the same pair of sweats every day,
the same hoodie every single day,
take them off, flush and repeat at night when you sleep,
go in for like six months straight.
Were you that type of guy or did you come flexing?
No, no, no.
I was definitely that type of guy.
You remember the old Reebok gray sweatshirt?
Yep.
Those, I was with Reebok at the time.
When they were going to get rid of me, I had some money left over.
Bought out like all the sweatshirts. i have boxes and boxes of those sweatshirts and they're amazing because
they're the best whichever so that a t-shirt mesh shorts flip-flops i'm in the building what do
people not know about being in the nfl that you think like you've learned from your last year
being retired people chatting with you i'm assuming you yesterday i saw you at radio row
you were bouncing around like 35 different places.
Everywhere you were, people looked engaged and were laughing.
You're an electric human being.
What do you think you've been telling people about your experience in the NFL
that they might not expect?
I think the biggest experience that a lot of us have that gets ripped from us
is the hot and cold tub.
People are blown away by the fact that you have a hot and a cold tub right next to each other.
And then you could just go in the shower, into the locker room.
Like it's right there.
And it blows your mind because everyone's always like, well, why would you want to be in cold?
Because it's delightful.
Hey, Chip Kelly came out swinging against that.
They brought that new science in.
The cold tub does it.
I don't know if it was Chip Kelly.
It was his little nutritionist guy, sports science in. The cold tub does it. I don't know if it was Chip Kelly. It was his little nutritionist guy. Sports science guy.
Compression, I guess, is the actual
move because the cold is supposed to flush
your blood, right? It's supposed to flush it out.
I'm a cold tub guy myself.
I go in there 11, 12 minutes. Nothing above the waist
though. Nipples can't touch. I get too chilly.
No? What about belly button?
Belly button sometimes had to depending on
the height of the cold water. Right, because you get
the big guys that come in and it goes you guys yeah plan for you know just getting the
waist in the next thing you know you're sitting there one of you's comes in yeah one of these guys
come rolling in and have a grand old time speaking of big guys i appreciate what you've done have you
lost weight because i don't like the linemen that get out of the league and then they immediately
lose 100 pounds yeah they look like meth heads.
It's crazy.
I can't do that because I can't run.
It's just not a thing.
It's not in the cards.
It's not in the cards anymore.
I did it.
I'm done.
I was coaching a second-grade flag football team, right?
Awesome.
And we're going out.
And first practice, you know, I'm there.
It's like five other dads.
And we're getting ready.
You always run the kids on a lap before they stretch.
Like that's just classic.
That's classic football.
And so they're like, all right, let's get them going for a lap.
And everybody kind of looks at me like I'm going to be leading the lap.
I'm like, no, no, no.
One of you guys got to do it.
Hey, somebody run these damn kids, huh?
Somebody run these damn kids.
We were talking to Taylor Lelor lawan last week little
michigan lineman you're an ohio state man yourself any uh osu michigan stories you got for us a little
bar fight you all in on that yeah all in completely so no bar fights uh yet uh so i'm getting recruited
out of college right and here we go and so we're we're sitting there and you're getting letters
and get all these little flyers and like hey hey, University of Nebraska is the best place ever.
Like, hey, fill out your information.
Give us, you know, that way we have a file for you.
So we're doing all this.
We're going through.
I end up getting offered from Notre Dame and Ohio State.
Those were my two offers.
Went with Ohio State, and the rest is history.
But I signed my letter of intent.
It's a great history.
Right?
Signed my letter of intent.
I'm sitting there bullshitting in my coach's office
and we're sitting there
talking
I was like
you know
coach
I got letters
and little things
from every school
like we're talking
you know
West Coast
even University of Hawaii
like all these schools
I'm at least getting
a piece of paper
that says hey
we know you
yeah
and I said
you know
but I never received
anything from Michigan
like it just
I don't get it.
He goes, oh, no, you got a lot of stuff from them.
I just threw it all away.
The whole fucking day.
The guy that's responsible for basically in his football life to get him a college scholarship.
Oh, yeah, yeah, you definitely get Michigan stuff.
That is a magical moment.
It was amazing.
I was like, well, it's true.
I would not go there. But, you know, at least I would have, like is a magical moment. It was amazing. I was like, well, it's true, I would not go there,
but at least I would have known.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it makes for a better story.
Yeah, you've got to build the hate pretty young, too, clearly.
It starts, I think it's in the water.
Are you still all in on it?
Like, you hate Michigan.
Oh, I hate Michigan.
I found that there's some relatively decent Michigan men that I can at least handle.
Tom Brady.
I don't know about Tom.
I haven't decided that yet.
Dave Harris is one of them.
Long-time linebacker for the New York Jets.
Oh, yeah.
That's about it.
I was going to say, we'll wait, man, if you need some time.
Did you play with Braylon?
Braylon?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Braylon was a character. He we'll wait, man, if you need some time. Did you play with Braylon? Braylon? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Braylon was a character.
He is a Michigan guy.
He's a character, though.
We had Rex Ryan here earlier.
I'm not sure if we've aired this yet with Rex or not.
What was the Rex Ryan era in New York like?
Well, I think the era has two eras.
Fat Rex and Skinny Rex.
Okay, let's talk about it. All right.
So Fat Rex was hilarious. It was funny. It was bo. All right. So, Fat Rex was hilarious.
It was funny.
It was boasterous.
You know, all over the map.
And we go to two back-to-back AFC championships.
Yep.
He then decides to lose weight,
maybe put a jinx on us,
and we haven't been back to the playoffs.
Oh, boy.
So, I think it's the Rex Ryan jinx.
Have you ever explained this to him?
Like, hey, do you know that your little health thing really screwed everything up for you?
I told him.
I was like, I want fat Rex back.
That would be great.
We have some friends, by the way, much better when they're fat than when they're skinny.
It's a natural thing.
Happiness equates to confidence, which equates to winning.
Yeah, I agree.
I like that.
That's good.
Write that down.
That should be on the t-shirt.
We are in the merch business.
This will probably be a shirt before the next 10 minutes.
Perfect.
Love it.
What do you do now?
I got four little ones at home.
So I'm doing dadding pretty hard.
I'm the manny.
That's a shirt.
Let me write that down.
That's another shirt.
And it's just a lot of fun being able to catch up with my kids on stuff that I missed while we were playing
and just trying to figure out what else I can do with food and all kinds of other tailgating crap.
Oh, you're a chef?
I'm a cook.
You just haven't gone to school yet.
I didn't go to school.
What's your favorite thing to make?
So I'm a big into barbecue.
Let's go.
Fun fact, Ron Heller was an offensive line assistant coach for us,
played in the league for like 13 years.
Comes in, he's a certified barbecue judge in Montana.
Let's go.
The things he taught me, the way his passion for the barbecue.
So for me.
What do you smoke?
You smoke them?
Yeah, I smoke them.
Yeah, a big green egg.
I got one.
I have no idea.
What size did you go?
It seems like it's this big.
Well, no, it's supposed to be round.
They're all about the same height.
Well, I didn't know.
I didn't know if there was.
But it's a pretty, I mean, I can hug, but it's a stretch.
Okay, so you probably got the large rocking.
I think so, yeah.
I've never used it.
I have no idea.
I don't know what to do, man.
I can barely cook pancakes.
All right, well, then we need to teach you on the Big Green Egg.
Do you have YouTube clips or anything like that?
Do you film yourself cooking? Like Wolfork used to do? No. You know, Vincent, that we need to teach you on the Big Green A. Do you have YouTube clips or anything like that? Do you film yourself cooking?
Like Wolfork used to do?
No.
You know, Vincent, the overall without a t-shirt.
Yeah.
That's a piece of man game.
Hey, we got to get you doing that.
Hey, were you that guy on your team?
No.
Were you a quiet guy in the locker room?
Funny guy?
Big guy?
Open guy?
The funny guy.
Talk guy.
You know, talk guy.
Gotcha.
Yeah, let's tell stories.
Well, we need that guy.
Yeah, you have to have that guy.
Yeah. It's a lot of fun to be able to, stories. Well, we need that guy. Yeah, you have to have that guy. Yeah.
It's a lot of fun to be able to, because you collect, and then as you get older, so you
have like the, I went, walked uphill both ways.
Yeah, yeah.
Ate mud and loved it.
Yeah, of course.
And then you're telling these kids that are coming out, they're like 20, 21, they're like,
I don't believe that happened.
Yeah, yeah.
What do you mean your playbook wasn't on an iPad?
I was like, well, when I was playing, there wasn't an iPad.
It wasn't even invented yet.
Yeah, we had to write it.
Yeah, we had to write things down.
They had to make copies of things.
Three-a-days, too, back in the day.
Two-a-days.
I never got to three-a-days.
Two-a-days, I had two-a-days.
Do you think the current football is soft the way it's set up?
Do you think the NFL is going to struggle long-term by the way it's set up?
I think they're having a hard time with having guys ready to go
i think so too you look at guys when they can practice they play better but it's it's like
when you look at an injured guy you know who's taking one rep a time it takes them a quarter
to get back into game mode so if you're missing those practices it's gonna hurt you it's gonna
hurt the game long term especially with all the rubles they're putting in and everything.
Speaking of tough, you know coming up into a game
that you have to face Brockers, Sue, and Aaron Donald.
Are you excited?
Or are you just not looking forward to that at all?
I'm excited because I know it's going to be a battle.
You know it's going to be.
Because they have to face him too.
Yeah.
In their mind, they're like, we got Nick Mangold too.
Ain't that right?
Ain't that right.
Yeah, but I got damn beard and some barbecue down there.
Come down to a little bourbon, he'll let you go right on by.
But, yeah, it was always exciting because if you want to be the best,
you have to go against the best, and it's a great opportunity.
Who's the hardest that you've ever –
Big Vince.
Vince Wilford?
Oh, yeah, definitely.
He started swimming there late, too.
He all of a sudden got faster.
That was like his new workout plan was he was swimming,
and then he got faster somehow. all of a sudden got faster. That was like his new workout plan was he was swimming and then he got faster somehow.
Yeah, somehow he got faster.
His explosion off the ball
is amazing for being as,
he's three something, you know,
and just being able to shoot off the ball.
Possibly four there for a little bit too.
For a little bit, yeah.
There was some big post-overalls.
Big, man.
Yeah.
But he was also strong,
so it was tough, you know.
Speaking of strong,
isn't your sister like,
am I wrong with this?
She's like an Olympic lifter, right?
Yeah.
I think I've seen videos of her on the internet lifting more than I could ever think about lifting.
Is she still doing that?
Well, she competed in the London Olympics.
Wow, that's awesome.
Did you go?
Yeah, I went out there.
It was a real quick hitter because it's during training camp.
So I had to call Mr. Johnson and ask for permission to get out of there.
My sister's lifting a lot of weights over there.
For the country.
Across the pond.
Yeah.
Hey, can I get your plane too?
Well, that would be nice.
Yeah.
Then they claim salary cap.
Oh, everything.
Oh, wow.
It's like, oh, that gets covered on the salary cap, so we can't do that, Nick.
I'm like, what do you mean?
You owners writing these rules just to cover your ass so you don't.
Cover it up.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, let's take the helicopter. She's still doing it though she's still into it uh yeah she's coaching
now i think were you like it did it feel like you were a cheerleader like it was it is there
anything comparable to watching your sister compete in the fucking olympics no i think other
than competing in the olympics you know i think that would be you can be a curler no although
i've heard good things i think we could do it i You think we can do it? It's like cornhole, but on ice.
I could do that.
Do you guys have a cornhole in the locker room?
Not in the locker room, surprisingly,
because we actually have a great locker room for cornhole,
so that's shocking to me.
We didn't really have anything.
It was kind of a sparse area.
Jets fan forever?
Jets fan forever.
Have to be.
My little guy is now eight, and he's full on J-E-T-S, Jetsets Jets.
So he's in it.
My wife is going to teach him a lot about losing.
They might get left bell.
Yeah, so he's had a rough eight years of fandom.
But I keep telling him it's going to be this year,
and I'm going to hopefully raise him as an optimistic Jets fan.
Pessimistically optimistic.
And he's got Sam Darnold for his whole entire life probably, correct?
You know, you look at the kid that was born in Boston 18 years ago.
He's watched a Tom Brady in the Super Bowl nine out of those 18 years.
What if that is my kid's Sam Darnold plays nine out of his 18?
Yeah, obviously. I think Sam Darnold plays nine out of 18? Yeah, obviously.
I think Sam Darnold easily could be the next Tom Brady.
For sure.
No problem.
No, yeah, no pressure whatsoever.
Especially with Adam Gase.
It's going to happen.
You might as well bet.
Your kid is lucky to be in the position he's in right now.
Yeah.
This next decade is going to be awesome when Sam's just like Tom Brady.
It's going to be fantastic.
Nick, we appreciate you so much.
Thank you very much. I can't wait to learn how to cook. Yeah, it'll be good. Yeah, because of you. It's going to be awesome. Do you just like tom brady it's gonna be fantastic nick we appreciate you so much thank you very much i can't wait to learn how to cook yeah it'll be good yeah because of you
that's gonna be awesome do you have a signature recipe uh yeah i got a brisket that's pretty
solid pulled pork with my own barbecue sauce oh cookbook is your next venture yeah why don't you
make like a a nick mangled makes yeah but it could be like an audio I guess that's not a book a pop-up book. I don't know in my head
In my head I see
So much fun like oh, this is great by the next time you read it like it's all torn up. It's a crinkly
Yeah, I know and then pages are like you can't open them because they're all tangled into each other
But they got you to buy the book
Yeah, I had a 3D TV when it came out.
Did you?
Walked right into Best Buy as high as I have ever been in my entire life.
It was the one that was up on the platform that you're not supposed to buy.
That's the one they're trying to get you to buy.
And the guy caught me.
He could see me.
And he just gave me the little glasses.
He was like, look at this.
And they played Planet Earth on there.
And I felt like I was in the safari with the gazelle.
I was like, I'll take one.
I've never used it at home.
Not a once that I've ever used it. They got Planet Earth lined up for people like you when they walk in.
Look at his eyes. Get that guy
some glasses. Let's go and get him
a 3D thing. We're going to hook him.
Hey, we appreciate you, Nick. Thank you so much, man.
Good luck to your kids'
fanhood with the Jets.
I got a lot of hope.
That's what I got to go with.
Yeah, it's all we have here.
It's all we have here.
You're the man.
Awesome.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.