The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 054 - Rich Eisen, John Clayton, & Riveting Stories From The Road

Episode Date: March 12, 2019

On today's show, Pat and a few of the guys record live from a hotel room in Pittsburgh right after coming back from WWE Monday Night Raw. They recap their roadtrip from Indiana to Cleveland to Pittsburgh and everything that they did along the way including WWE Fastlane, some of their dining experiences, and beating the inclement weather that was on their backs. Also included in the show is Pat's interview with Rich Eisen on the NFL Network Free Agency Frenzy as he discussed Antonio Brown going to Oakland, who some of the best free agent punters are, and Rich gives him another push to keep the #McAfeeForMNF train rolling (28:54-36:08). Later, an absolute legend in the game, an NFL Hall of Famer, one of the most recognizable faces in NFL media, The Professor, John Clayton, joins the show. They discuss everything free agency related and how AB almost wound up in Buffalo, he gives a couple of ideas where he thinks certain players might land as teams are handing out insane amounts of cash, he dives into what his work weeks are like during these types of hot beds in the NFL calendar, gives his Super Bowl pick for next year, and chats about whether or not the pony tail is real (41:48-1:03:10.) It's a fun one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm recording it at the end. I've already recorded the conversation. You're going to enjoy it. We go balls deep into some hilarity. I guess I'm recording it at the end. I've already recorded the conversation. You're going to enjoy it. We go balls deep into some hilarity, but know that we are potentially getting kicked out of our hotel literally as we speak because it is a late one and they have night quiet time rules here. You'll hear all about it. You're going to love it.

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As soon as you get off the elevator on our floor, which I have never seen in my entire life before We have a strict Quiet time policy here at the Marriott in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. After 9 p.m., keep it the fuck down. This is basically what they've said. You're not mentioning, too, there's a nice little baby looking up at you on that side. It is. Like, hey, there is kids here.

So after 9 p.m., we have a bedtime here at Marriott. So the bad thing for them and for us is this is just an unfortunate situation that has to happen. Tough but fair. Stern but fair. Oh, okay. Thought we were going to keep it the fair theme because that's what we are. But it is 11.50pm

Monday, March 11th. You are listening here Tuesday, March 12th. Myself at Nick Marotto, at Boston connor at evan foxy for the last couple days have been a couple road dogs see that's the type of shit's gonna get us kicked out of the hotel what are you gonna do just did a bird call because we are the road hawks save it save it okay we've been on red here okay with, with WWE. On Saturday afternoon, when there was a tornado happening in the Midwest.

Yeah. We're talking about orange and reds on the Dopplers. All the way across Indiana and Ohio. We suited and booted and jumped into Frank Moraldo's brand new Jeep Wrangler. Nice Jeep. The tank. This car is brand new.

Brand new. Drove it three times. Not a lot of miles on this Jeep Wrangler. Don't even know how to move the seat up and back, actually. Haven't figured out all the buttons on the car yet, how brand new it is for Nick. And this is something because Nick has had the subaru for about 45 years now long time 10 years let's be honest i mean i paid the thing off thought i was gonna just drive it into the ground but you know i decided to treat myself reward myself i said nick you work hard yeah you do guy you're

one of the most humble and honest people you know. Probably the best in the history of being humble at being humble. Best I've ever known. Yeah. So I said, okay, it's time. Reward yourself. Get yourself a new vehicle. So I did. And here we are.

We take it to Cleveland. We have a nice night. Well, let's talk about the ride a little bit. I mean, the ride to Cleveland. We went right into the eye of a storm. Monsoon, if you will. First of all, this is Nick's car, but Nick was not driving on this trip. No, no, everybody knows that's listening.

Just had to make sure. I don't ride. I don't do the ride thing. It's not my thing. I've had Uber drivers get out of the driver's seat and sit shotgun while I drive their Uber car. I don't like riding in cars. I don't mind driving, but I can't just sit there. I get antsy.

I get annoying to the driver, too. I just get car sick. I mean, there's so many negatives to me sitting in a car and riding. Like one Uber trip around Pittsburgh here, and I almost vomited. This dude was driving a minivan. I can't do it. I can drive, though. I can drive though. So since we were going to hit the road to Cleveland

where the fast lane was because the WWE invited us to come. What an awful place by the way. We'll get to that too. Nick just buried Cleveland the entire time. He refused to embrace the place. He refused to embrace the place.

There's a lot of history in Cleveland. Oh, yeah. A lot of history. You ever heard of the first ever enclosed shopping center, 1890, right there in Cleveland? They didn't call it a mall. They called it an arcade. Interesting naming, but still a good thought. That's what we're screaming from the rooftops about in Cleveland.

That's what we're proud of. It's unbelievable. Beautiful place. We literally just walked into it. What a joke. It's unbelievable. Beautiful place. We literally just walked into it. What a joke. Embarrassing. See, what you're hearing here is exactly how he acted in there.

But getting there, it was a rough one. I mean, it was windy in that Jeep Wrangler. In Jeep Wranglers, I had one whenever I was in high school. That thing is a box. So that thing,

like if Mother Nature wants to give a good blow, the Jeep Wrangler goes. Oh no You know, yeah, it does it does some dodging it was moving. It was raining very hard very hard There's a lot of rain hitting the windshield also, maybe rocks hitting the windshield a few potential rocks cuz we drove right into a storm Yeah, and really there was nothing anybody could do you never know what's gonna pop up No, because there was like the trucks were driving and the trucks, they had 18 wheels. You do the math.

Nine on each side. Nine wheels kicking up rain and shit off the road into the Jeep Wrangler thing. Scary situation. You can only see about 100 feet in front of you two. I don't even know. 100 feet. 100 feet. I'm being generous.

That's very generous. There was a couple times there where I was very confused. I didn't know we were still on the road a couple times. When there wasn't a car in front of us with our brake lights. It got a little sketchy there, I'm going to be honest. I think we played it off. I think we played it off. Yeah, it went great.

Yeah, it went great for sure. I'm glad I wore my NASA jumpsuit because you drive a car like a spaceship, dude. We weren't a lick under 90 that entire ride. And keep in mind, this whole time we're just slowly moving with the orange Doppler radar that's going from Indianapolis to Cleveland. We kept up with the storm. I think the storm was moving at the exact same pace as us. And even when we stopped to get gas, the storm was like, you know what, yeah, let's take a piss break. they stuck with us the entire trip from india to cleveland

and i am a good driver ari leindyke taught me how to drive i drove the pace car at the angie's list i don't know how many hundreds angie lists that was grand prix there wasn't a hundred it was a grand prix it was an indycar race where they had a street course, though. Okay. Do you know what I'm talking about? A street course? Oh, yeah. So there's like 13 or 14 turns.

I don't remember the exact. If you would have asked me right afterwards, I would have known because I memorized the course. But I wasn't supposed to be the guy. Okay? I'm supposed to be like an actual celebrity. Oh. Oh, because he drops out like two days before the race.

Two days before the Angeles Grand Prix because he drops out like two days before the race. Two days before the Angeles Grand Prix. Because he drops out two days before. So Doug Bowles, good guy at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Oh, yeah. He married Connor Daly's mother. Connor Daly doing a podcast for the Indy Star, by the way. Saw that. Oh, nice.

Huh. Hmm. Indy Star. Hmm. He let us break the news, though, that he was in the thing. True. I don't know how we feel about connor i mean i like connor's a friend of ours good guy but i mean if he's gonna do a podcast there's

literally a podcast company in town that he's friends with small business small business that's what i'm saying friend of the show just connecting dots local journalists local journalism though i mean you gotta do what you gotta do but head, I'm like, wait a minute. Curious. Anyways, Doug Bowles married his mom. And Doug Bowles sends me a text and says, on Saturday, would you like to drive the pace car for the Angie's List Grand Prix? And I said, is this a real question? Because, yes, I would love to do that.

He goes, okay, don't tell anybody. I have to see if you're cleared by Chevy. So Chevy has to give the clear. So I guess he tells Chevy, Chevy hops in a plane, flies to Indianapolis on Friday, and they're like, you're going to take some practice rounds. Head Chevy people were there. Smart by them.

Very smart by them. They Googled me, and at that point, not the best resume. I mean, we had the mugshot first thing was popping up so the chevy people were like well goddamn so they show up it's a stick it was a corvette it's a nice car that thing was very nice and i had never seen the course before so the other guy who was supposed to do it i guess he had like the the course sent to him on a paper for him to memorize like a couple weeks beforehand i had no idea so i get behind the wheel and i i've driven a stick before but i knew the chevy people were a little bit

worried about what could potentially go because you crash that car makes chevy look very bad and the grand prix has a lot of turns so it's not just like a left turn left. It's a left. Right. Left. Left. Left. Right. It's like life. Left. You know, it's not easy.

Right. Left. Left. Right. Left. It's not just left. Left. Left.

Left. It's left. Right. Right. Left. Slow right. Sharp left. Like you turn at left, slow right, sharp left. Like you turn at one point.

Slow down. No, no, you don't drift in an IndyCar because then you lose all your leverage. But anyways. Is this guy serious? He's an idiot. It was a question. It was definitely a question. It was a question.

It's still right at the apex, bro. There was a... Great. Come on. You might want the same class as I want to because you sounded a lot like me. Well, he was in the car club. like me. He was in the car club. He was in Nitrous Rush. I went in there. No Nitrous Rush.

No car club. Just me and Ari Leindyke who happens to have the fastest lap in Indy 500 history. That's a fun fact for you. I don't know if he's the fastest car ever on the track or the fastest lap on the track.

One or the other. His kid was on The Bachelor, which just ended, I think, last night from what I've been told. I wish Ty was here because Ty knows The Bachelor. He does. This would be like a very topical pop culture thing for us to do. This could take this show to a whole other level if we did an entire Bachelor breakdown. I know his name's Colton. Colton.

Hopped a fence. I know he hopped a fence, too. Good hop. It was a pretty good hop. There was a lot of other people hopping fences that shouldn't be hopping fences. No, no. Everybody knows when you hop a fence,

you just get those hands on top, and then you just let it do what it do. Yeah. You just give it a little springboard off the top there. Anyways, we're in the Corvette. Two Chevy suits there. Oh, okay. They were very nice to me though very nice and i thought

about because i have a lot of cars now i have a car that has over 600 horsepower that's that's i have a shelby i have a tesla it's like literally the quickest car on the road it moves i have a lot of cars i have some experience in the car game chevy people don't know this though so i thought about as as soon as i get in the car there's like a ceremonial picture happening and i'm pulling off i thought about giving that thing a little hum hum i thought about giving that a little and give her a little burn of the rubber okay because old cousin knows how to flutter the clutch yeah yeah and i was thinking about doing it my mom and dad were there i believe like this is a big moment yeah i didn't though i did a nice i said i want to get this job this would be a cool thing to do professional so i just

slowly that was the engine not bad okay well engine per so is it like a little wookie a little bit well i'm happy to know that i can do an impression of the thing. That's good. You should take pride in that. What's his name? Chewbacca. Chewbacca. Chewy. Chewy.

Chewy the Wookie. Of course. He's that big hairy thing. Yeah. Crossbow. The mom put the mask on, did the thing in the car, and then she was on all the late night talk shows. That's the thing?

Mm-hmm. I'm a big fan of that thing. Anyways, Ari Leindyke is a guy. I think he's from the Netherlands. I think he's Dutch. He has an accent. Really cool. Two things I can't stand. Go on.

People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch. Absolutely. Cleveland. That's you and Cleveland. That's three things. Cleveland's not a culture. Let's be honest. Hey, he was buried in Cleveland.

He's still buried in Cleveland. Why is he? Cleveland was was nice by the way and to get there i had to drive the car line dyke because i drove that course for three hours on one night and the chevy people were just waiting there basically like yep we're gonna watch him run every single one this motherfucker with a mugshot with the hair looking like goddamn gary bucey that song bitch ain't crashing this thing. And Ari Leindyke was like an incredible coach. Incredible coach. I learned the line that night. I learned like everything.

He gave me one to take home. Like he really was invested in me. And then whenever it was showtime, I mean, he was like, let's go. And he was lying to the people about how fast we were going. Like during the celebration laps. Oh, so he was all in. I like that. Yeah, he was lying to them. They're like on the celebration laps he was all in i like yeah he was lying to them they're like uh on

the here on the head on the headset thing they're like uh what's your what's your speed or something like that and he was reading the speed and he and i were both looking at speedometer i'm like this motherfucker can't read i know like it had like 75 on or something he was giving in kilometers he's no he was like uh yeah i don't know i think it might have been in that anyways like he was he was giving in kilometers he was no he was like uh yeah i don't know i think it might have been in that anyways like he was he was asking because he was just saying 15 under does that make sense so he was telling him that we're going 90 we're at like 105 because i think he wanted me to go faster he was very nice of him he was like go for it go for it but i learned the

lines you see in the vision and whenever you look in your rear view mirror by the way and you just see like 32 of those little rocket ships that those fucking idiots are driving it's very interesting because they're up on your shit especially in those turning ones right and i just had to keep the blinders on chuck ball had to keep the blinders on so every time i get a car now that's the confidence i drive with i'm a big racing guy and obviously i know this but for the people who don't know what a line is perhaps yeah uh what is that well you go in low out high you go in low out high so that you can utilize the momentum coming out of the turn to continue to propel your car at the fastest possible fashion and on those indie tracks that i race on and drive on if you get off the

line there's this thing called marbles, which is like rocks because it's been cleared on the lines cleared. So when you're off the line, all the shit's been kicked in there. It's called the marbles because it sounds as if marbles are in your tires. It's like it really does sound like the car is telling you like, you're not supposed to fucking be out here. That's what the car is telling you. So as soon as you get back on the line, there's no sound.

So you can continue to go. Does that make sense? Stay off the marbles. Stay off the marbles, bro. But I go for it when I get in a car. Most aggressive driver I've ever been with, for sure. Aggressive? In a good way, like finesse.

Finesse. Aggressive finesse. That's both. Skillfully, but aggressive. Because even in situations where you don't have to be aggressive, you'll finesse your way just to get an extra five seconds. Just only five seconds. Hey, when you know you're fit, you know you're fit,

and you know how to squeeze it between a truck or two. I'll tell you what. The best is when I make those plays. You know when I make those plays? Yeah. And the people end up passing me at the red light like what that we get up to and it's just like uh it's just a slow it's always just a slow look from the other people and then it's a nasty one while they're still while they're so disgusted that

they're sharing the road with somebody who drives like me like get off my dick you see that move i just made get out of here bro i like I like driving. I got good vision. It's made me good at soccer and at a cannon. Probably would have been a good running back if I wasn't soft. Yeah. I can see it.

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Quick side note. Yeah. Boston Market still bangs. Hey. Boston Market. Always bangs, bro. So good. We had a quick pit stop there.

And everybody here had an incredible meal except for the one person who ordered a deli sandwich from Boston Market. Rotisserie chicken spinning in the back. He ordered a Subway sandwich from Boston Market. What a child. I had an entire rotisserie chicken in front of me. Nick had an entire Thanksgiving meal. I believe Evan Fox had like a barbecue.

Barbecue chicken sandwich. barbecue barbecue chicken sandwich chicken sandwich and connor the 12 year old of the group from boston the youngest hawk yes the loudest hawk from boston at boston market just ordered complete shit and was roasted for what he was wearing what he ate not only by us but sweet old ladies in tiny towns in ohio well i mean here's the thing guys like you said i'm the youngest road hawk here not all the hawks get the good meat some have to get the run of the litter and i know that i'm not gonna go up there and get a rotisserie chicken how do i know you three don't want to go up for round two i'm not gonna steal that thunder for you yeah give me the run hold on hold on there was literally 42 chickens spinning in the back did you see that place?

And they had headsets on, and they were standing four feet away from each other, which was a magical moment. Magical. Connor got somebody in trouble because they refused to use the headset. They just turned around and talked to the other person, and then he got yelled at for not using the headset. It was quite a situation. Kind of scene, which is kind of what happens whenever Connor goes anywhere,

by the way. Look, I need you to get me a rotisserie chicken. What? What? God damn. Just get me a rotisserie chicken. What? What? God damn. Just get me a rotisserie chicken sandwich. Hey, hey, hey. It is literally.

The hotel. I forgot the name. 1208. This is what I was just about to talk about. His situational awareness is dog shit. Connors is such dog shit. It's under par. We walk into a quiet hotel where the WWE has put us in,

which is what we're in right now, screaming in our room. But we walk into this, the oldest indoor mall shopping center in the history of America. It's got this beautiful architecture. And Connor just walks into it and just starts yelling. And it just starts fucking echoing through this whole place. You think panels from 1890 are about to fall off the wall from his piercing, shrieking voice.

It's just situational awareness 101, and you don't got it. We go to the casino in Clevelandveland we win some money down there blackjack dealer was very nice dealing a lot of heaters for us we go over to craps table got kind of bullied by the dealers a little bit gotta be honest got kind of bullied i lost some money there but we ended up up as a group go to sleep call it a night next day prepare for fast lane wwe fast lane did a watch a long thing it was a great time awesome yeah you slayed it three and a half hours was that long time yeah Go to sleep. Call it a night. Next day, prepare for Fastlane. WWE Fastlane. Did a watch-along thing. It was a great time. Awesome. Yeah, you slayed it.

Three and a half hours, was that? Long time, Kyle. Yeah. Long time. We're watching WWE Fastlane. A lot of things happened there. Live on YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook for the WWE. And it was a blast. A lot of people came through.

Very thankful for all the guests that came through. I enjoyed everything about it the revival did a dirty dance situation two men very large and tough men did a dirty dance scene and then they touched their beards to each other which was magical put them together like puzzle pieces the iconics talked about australia a little bit they believe it's a real place because we did dive into that in the car a little bit gotta ask i mean i did i had to ask there's a real conspiracy out there that i did not had to ask there's a real conspiracy out there that i did not know until yesterday like digs is in on it he said it a couple times

but i thought that was just a dumb digs thing it's no no it's a real thing like people believe that australia is a hoax yeah south america i mean there's a serious case that australia is just actually south america well they say that every commercial pilot that flies to Australia is in on it, and they just fly to South America instead, and all the accents are computer-generated. This is a real thing on the internet. Anyways, I don't know a lot of Australian people,

so I've got to sit down with two Australian people. I mean, a place that just is filled with beautiful women and Instagram models and then deadly creatures sounds a little fishy. That's kind of funny. You said fire festival right there. I heard it. a little fishy. That's a good point. You said fire festival right there. I heard it. Yeah, exactly.

That was all fantasy land. Something to think about. I asked them. They said they think it's real. So they're from there. They said they think it's real. Apparently. That's what they would say.

But all you got to do, if you're there the whole time, if you're told yellow is green the entire time, your whole life, you're going to believe that. And if the pilots, every single pilot that flies every single plane from every different commercial airliner that travels from every single country. Oh, big pilots in on it. Big pilots all in on it. Whenever you leave, you never know because that pilot's saying, welcome to Australia. Goodbye.

See Australia. Yeah. Flying around pieces of Australia, South America. You never know. Did the fast lane thing. It was a blast. Drove here to Pittsburgh. Hit up the casino and Rudy's Subs today.

Rudy's Subs was great. All time. Great sandwiches. We just saw our CFO who is rocking a pretty solid ponytail. Yeah, and he's also rocking a pretty nice beard on his shoulders. He's got the hairiest arms I've ever seen in my entire life, but he was supporting the merch. Not a lot of the sleeveless hoodies are out there. So he has one. And he has massive arms.

Great beard. Wildly hairy arms. Yeah. We took those hairy arms right to the casino. And guess what we did again in Pittsburgh? We proceeded to go ding-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling. Ding-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling. Ding-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling.

Ding, ding, ding. Jackpots. Jackpots. Got hot on the blackjack table. All of us did. It was a road hawk sweep of that blackjack table. Not to mention the roulette. Walk it out.

Oh, see you later. A hundred bucks. Everybody puts on black. Let's keep it moving. Walk it off. We go to the cashier. We all cash out. We're going to go to Monday Night Raw in Pittsburgh.

We get a couple extra cash. Connor sees four Wheel of Fortune slot machines staring at him staring staring so connor walks over there and he goes oh which one are you loud very loud sure very loud there's four options there he doesn't know he doesn't pick which one uh arms phil tells him the second one from the left is the one he likes nick just cuts in front of him sits down in the one right next to that three max bet spins whammy whammy whammy wheel of fortune thing goes off here we go spin to win it says the highest number on there is 1 000 frankie boy what you hit 1 000 you got it we screamed nice we screamed in that thing all of a sudden ding

ling ling ling a ding-a-ling-a-ling-a-ling a couple more hundos in the pocket for old nick perrado connor could have had that one he was indecisive he only won like 20 bucks in the one next to it still a winner still a winner which is a routine for us it's starting to become something we do now it's time to move on to our all-time favorite underdog success story movement the watches founded on belief that style shouldn't break the bank they've sold almost two million watches worldwide by bringing quality designs at fair prices movement watches are all about looking good while keeping it simple they don't tell you how many steps you've taken or blow your wrist up with text messages we don't need that no no that's what my phone's for don't put a phone on your

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Monday Night Raw and we're on TV a lot hey shout out to the WWE for being so damn nice. Yes. They are the best. They're the best, dude. Yes. I'm a new fan of the WWE.

So it's all brand new to you. All brand new to me. And I said to Nick tonight walking in, this is the first match where I was excited to see the storylines. Because obviously we're going there. I was excited to be there. But to actually find out what was going to happen. Let's be honest, too.

We didn't really give them a choice. We were loud, proud, and ruckus right there in the front row. We were very loud. We were very much on TV. The internet was telling us the crowd was dead. I didn't think so. I thought the crowd was pretty good. Now, granted, that might have been us just yelling the whole time, though.

Yeah, I mean, we did our part. We were into it. I lost my voice. I'm actually losing my voice right now, which never happens to be. You can ask my mom. That is not a mother. I'm gassed. I feel like I went to war out there. I lost my voice. I'm actually losing my voice right now, which never happens to be. You can ask my mom. That is not a mother. I'm gassed. I feel like I went to war out there.

I feel like I wrestled. I'm exhausted. A lot of people got beat up in front of us. Yeah, a lot of them. I don't like it. I was pounding on the boards like it was a hockey game. Let's go, boys. Triple H, Dave Bautista, created one of the most memeable moments,

gif-able moments in a long time where Dave Bautista is begging for what he wants. Give me what I want. Give me what I want, he says, very angrily. And we just said McAfee for Monday Night Football. Because there's one guy today that I talked to who wanted to motivate me to continue to push that campaign. It was a little part of free agent frenzy because we will dive into that entirely

right after this conversation with the beautiful rich eisen that happened on nfl network by the way i will mention this at the end of this interview the nfl network had me on a show good morning football no nfl am what's the name of the show yep i was like a weekly guest on there it was like my people. I flew out in the off-season, woke up at like 1 AM because they filmed it in LA. It was a morning show. Did the whole thing. Then that show got pulled.

Ooh. Canceled. Oh. See ya. Oh. And I've never been back on another NFL Network show. Never. Never been asked back.

Except for on the internet. On the internet. They had me on the internet show. Yep. On the check down and stuff like that. Never been asked back. Except for on the internet. On the internet, they had me on the internet show. On the check down and stuff like that. Never been asked back. So today, Rich Eisen was doing his show on NFL Network. Sends me a text. Goes, hey, I'd like to have you on NFL Network with me. I said, welcome back.

Welcome back. Welcome back. And it won't well. All-pro punter Pat McAfee here on the Rich Eisen Show on the NFL Network. How are you, Patrick? I'm fantastic after that incredible introduction, Mr. Eisen. Thank you so much for that. Also, since we are talking free agent frenzy and the frantics behind it all,

you could also say I was once franchise tagged in that introduction, but you didn't. No worries. You missed them every once in a while. It's an honor to be here. NFL Network is a great place to be, especially in this free agent frenzy. Now, when you were franchise tagged, would you say the franchise tag was placed on you or slapped on you? Would you say? It was slapped right in my face. Definitely. You were not pleased? What's that? You were not pleased with the franchise tagging? You didn't want to be franchise tagged as a punter? No, I was very excited. It was more

money than I could have ever imagined in my entire life. All of my contracts with the NFL were, but it was definitely put upon me like, yeah, you're not going anywhere. No, we're not negotiating with you anymore. We'll see if you have another good year. Wham! Right on the face. That's what happened. But I loved it. It was a lot of guaranteed money. Made my family very comfortable.

And it's just the NFL is a league that never stops giving, just like it's doing today, with massive amounts of Brinch trucks being backed up into people's homes all over the country right now. So are you in the city of Pittsburgh right now, the great city of Pittsburgh, Patrick? I am. City of Bridges. City of champions, city of Iron City Lights, city of Primanti Brothers. Here I am right in the middle of it for WWE Monday Night Raw, and it is an electric place right now with this Antonio

Brown news. Give me the general sense of what fans are thinking. The Insers here love the Ben Roethlisberger, love that he can sling the ball all over the yard, any yard. Very excited that Antonio Brown is gone. Very excited that Antonio Brown is gone. Very excited that Lev Bell is gone.

The Ingers think that they were bringing a lot of drama to the city. They think that the team is much more likable now, although they might not be as talented. And even though they only got a third and a fifth rounder for Antonio Brown, they still feel as if the Steelers have won because they can move past the Real Housewives of Pittsburgh situation that was happening inside the locker room. I have no idea if that's true or not because the Cleveland Browns seem to be getting better and better. I'll be excited to see what happens in the AFC North.

But Yinzers everywhere are rejoicing for Antonio Brown being gone. And I'm not sure that's the right play. I'm not saying they're right at all, but they seem to be happy about it all being over and moving forward. What do you think is happening in the locker room there in Pittsburgh? What do you think? I don't know. Managing egos. I think you and I have talked about this.

Managing egos is a huge part of the modern NFL. I mean, with the way social media is, everybody's their own brand. Everybody's their own business. The ability to handle people who are great at things is a huge part of management these days. So I'm not sure if that'll scare away other superstars from coming to the beautiful city of Pittsburgh in the future. I'm just thinking that they're hoping that the young stars like Juju and whoever else comes in to fill in, it just takes a different path. But I think right now, if you look at the Steelers organization, you'll be one that is historically great.

A lot of wins. They've got a passionate fan base, but here in the recent history has been surrounded by drama due to not being able to manage attitudes and personalities. I think that's very obvious, and this next phase, next era of the Steelers are going to be a very impressive one. We'll see how many more years Ben Roethlisberger has thrown a ball around here in Pittsburgh. Well, Pat McAfee, as I said at the beginning of this frenzy, as well as my show, The Rich Eisen Show, as it's named, and if Antonio Brown Instagram-lived and tweeted his way

in a way into the spot that he wanted, how is your social media campaign to get you in the Monday night football seat going right now, Pat? I think the campaign went very well. You know, it got you into a little bit of trouble with Kurt Warner, which I love. I absolutely love that. Yeah, it did. That's true. Right.

We trended for 10 hours, McAfee for Monday night football. Our intel, which means my agents told me that the day after we trended for 10 hours, there was an entire meeting at ESPN for the Monday Night Football position. My name was mentioned less than once. So I think the media campaign that we ran went. I think the campaign was a good one, but we're not results-oriented here. I don't think we're going to get the results that we're looking for, but we definitely disrupted the whole situation,

and you helped out immensely with that, so I'm thankful for you forever. So you refer to it in the past tense. It's over just because ESPN held a meeting and you helped out immensely with that so i'm thankful for you forever so you refer to in the past tense it's over just because the espn held a meeting and you weren't mentioned once pat come on what are we doing come on with right listen sometimes you got to get your ass out there and you find that dog you know sometimes you got to do that and we went for it there was a lot of tweets there was a lot of action there was a lot movement. But there's literally nothing we can do if we're not in a meeting. I mean, that's a pretty important meeting to be a part of if you're campaigning for

a position that people control, and then the people that control that are having a meeting, and they don't even mention your name. It's going to be tough to keep campaigning, but I'm all about getting back on the trail, sending some tweets out, some characters, some hashtags, and see if we can make Monday night the most electric night of football again, but it's not my decision to be made.

It's not yours either. We just got to sit back and see what happens. Yeah, just let the chips fall. Before I let you go, can we put up on the screen, my friends at the NFL Network, put up on the screen the top free agent punters, because punters are free agents too. Pat Bradley Pinion, Pat O'Donnell, Ryan Allen, if you want a left-legged variety. Jordan Berry and Donnie Jones, what do you think of this class of free agents for punters, Pat? Okay, so Donnie Bagabones Jones has enough swag to carry and fill an entire locker room. He's also a Super Bowl champion who

came out of retirement. Big lefty, hits the ball high and far down the middle of the field, so you're depending upon what you want. He only has one ball, but it's a good ball. Ryan Allen has been in massive situations, so you know the butthole isn't going to pucker if you're in a big spot, which is a big deal for a specialist because there's a lot of pressure on you. Bradley Pinion has the ability to be a great punter. He hits the ball well. It goes far.

I'm not sure he's got into a consistency that he's looking for. We'll see if that happens in a new spot. San Francisco is also a very windy place. Pat O'Donnell has become a completely different punter. He eliminates returners. He's not going to put up the huge numbers, but he's not going to give up many return yards as well. I'll be excited to see what he does.

And then there's the Australian bomber, Jordan Berry, who has a cannon of a leg from down under, but I don't know if he's confident at the time being enough to step on the field and do it every single time. You give him a little bit of cash, maybe that builds the confidence. There's a lot of bombers out there ready to hit balls on fourth downs. I'll be excited to see where the chips fall if we're talking in Rich Eisen terms. Thank you, Pat. Bless you, sir.

You're a man who should not give up. I just heard some analysis that's an all-four-down analysis. They call Landon Collins a box safety. You are not a box broadcaster, sir, if I may say. Wow. That makes me feel really good. I'm about to run through a brick wall here, maybe send out another tweet,

maybe I'll just go camp outside of Bristol and see if they'll take a call or a conversation with me. But Rich, I can't thank you enough. I'm not sure if Chris is in there. Tell him I said what's up. He's right there. And thanks for having me back on NFL Network. The last time I was on here, the show got canceled and I never got to come back.

This was a lot of fun. Thank you so much. All right. Take care, brother. For the brand. As you go, Ken. This is Pat McAfee bringing the frenzy to the free agency frenzy. Free agency was insane.

We talked about a lot on there. A lot of things happened. We are in Pittsburgh. We just talked about before that how we got to Pittsburgh. Antonio Brown's situation seems to be one that this entire place is excited about. A lot of things happened today, though. Nick is going to run through those. We'll do instant reaction if we have any.

Just know that the NFL is handing out cash right now. A lot of people are making a lot of money. It's almost making me want to go kick some balls. out cash right now. A lot of people making a lot of money. It's almost making me want to go kick some balls. Hey, if they start overvaluing punters like what is happening in a lot of things like this, hey, almost dumb not

to go back. We'll see. Except for the vitamins T, H, and C. Go ahead, Nick. Go through the rundown. Alright, let's start at the top. The most money here. Nick Foles, quarterback obviously, from Philadelphia to Jacksonville, four years, $88 million. They couldn't wait to get rid of Blake Bortles.

I mean, they're paying a lot of money right there, and I think this is a good move for them. They've got a good team. Maybe that defense will be re-energized with a Super Bowl champion there, a Super Bowl MVP. I think it's good news and good move for Jacksonville Jaguars. Arguably the prize of free agency here on the defensive side. Landon Collins, free safety going from the Giants to a division rival

Redskins. We're pissed off about this. Everybody's going to good teams. Right. Raiders are getting built up. Rams getting good players. The Lions are becoming a good team. What'd you say? The Lions are making plays.

Which ones? The animals? Nope. The we go. Wait, what'd you say? The Lions are making plays. Which ones? The animals? Nope, the Detroit ones. Detroit Lions. Oh. Hey, I'll tell you what, Foxy's been a Lions fan for a long time. Whole life. Through a lot of hard times. 24 years of it. When I talked to Matt Patricia before that Packers-Lions game, he basically

said, like, I just need to get my guys in here. My type of guys in here. The Patriot way is what they're looking for. And they have been making Patriot plays. They've literally been making Patriot plays. Do not overlook the McAfee bump in this entire thing. With the Matt Patricia conversation. Absolutely.

And they go to Lambeau. You're calling the game. One of the Lions ever beat the Packers and held them to zero points. And shut them out. Exactly. I had not a bad thought there. I'll take credit for it if that's the case, because it looks like they're putting together quite a team there, man. But Lane and Collins goes to the Redskins.

It's like, what are we doing? Yeah, it's tough. I mean, he had a good career, I guess. I don't know. I mean, he's going to go there for another six years. I mean, Mike, why are the Redskins doing this? That's what they do. Let them go to a team team.

Yeah. Contender. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of contenders, Trent Brown leaves New England, goes to the Oakland Raiders, four-year deal, $54 million. He's going to be good.

Yeah, we'll see. I'm sorry, $66 million. I was looking below here. Quan Alexander, the linebacker, goes from Tampa Bay to San Francisco on a four-year deal for $54 million. Wow. That's a big move, I think. Mitch Morse, the center from Kansas City, going to Buffalo,

four years, $44 million. Tyron Matthew, the safety. The Honey Badger, from the Texans to the Kansas City Chiefs. This makes the Chiefs very good. Yes. They needed something. How much? Three years, $42 million.

Oh, my God. He's so rich, by the way. Yeah. And he's so good. And remember, people at LSU, people are trying to act like him having a marijuana failed test is going to ruin his life. This guy just played football, man. He used to dominate college football.

Now he dominates in the NFL. Now he's on a contender. Now he's on a real team. Real team. Let's see what happens here. We had Trey Flowers going from New England to Detroit. To your lines, Foxy. Good pass rusher there.

Connor, you want to say your piece here? Trey, I know you're listening. Thank you for everything you did for us. All right. You're a great player. I think the neighbors just woke up. I did hear some stirring. I think we're getting kicked out.

I'm sorry. Adam Humphreys, wide receiver, going from Tampa Bay to Tennessee. Four-year deal, $36 million. Justin Coleman, cornerback from Seattle to Detroit. Four years, $36 million. Kareem Jackson, safety from Houston to Denver, three years, $33 million. Malik Jackson, the D-tackle, leaving Jacksonville, going to Philly for three years, $30 million. Jameson Crowder, this was an interesting one.

Wide receiver, leaving the Redskins, going to the Jets, three years, $28 million. Kenny Vaccaro, strong safety, Tennessee, re-signs with Tennessee, four-year, $26 million deal. Rob Alford, Atlanta to Arizona, $22 million. Bob. Wow. Let's see what else we got here. Eric Weddle, obviously, leaving Baltimore, going to the Rams, two-year deal.

Devin Funchess. Ooh, yeah. Coming to Colts. Let's go. Finally decided to spend some of that $100 million they got, one-year deal. Patient. Chris Bowers being patient. Yeah. We know he's being patient. Right. Slow game. We know this guy knows. Let's go. Finally decided to spend some of that $100 million they got one year deal. Patient. Chris Bowers being patient.

Yeah. We know he's being patient. Right. Slow game. We know this guy knows what he's doing. Dwayne Allen leaving New England going to the Dolphins in Miami. Two year deal. Yeah, boy, Dwayne.

Danny Amendola leaving the beautiful beaches of Miami heading up to the cold, gritty Detroit. He'll do more than just on the field stuff. You've got to remember, that's a good veteran locker room presence there. Championship mentality. Speaking of vets, we've got Carlos Hyde going from Jacksonville to KC on a one-year deal. And then we have Frank Gore going from Miami to Buffalo. Awesome.

That's going to be a ground and pound up there, Frank Gore. Yeah. Anything else? Those are the notables. Okay. So this is what the NFL realizes about itself. Anytime at once, it can take over the news cycle. Yes. This is taking over.

Ian Rappaport sent out a tweet that EB was going to Buffalo Bills, and then I just heard the entire behind-the-scenes story. The NFL free agency process is absurd, and here's a conversation with a guy who's been inside of it for decades. Decades. And I talked to him right there on the phone. About four or five minutes after I woke up

this morning. It's probably going to be obvious early, but I think the conversation went well. Ladies and gentlemen, joining me now while I sit in a hotel in his hometown of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. This man has been breaking news and reporting on the greatest league in the NFL for years and years and decades and decades. You can hear him now on the radio in Seattle.

You can also hear him with his own podcast. He's a legend on ESPN and just in the reporting game in general. Ladies and gentlemen, Braddock, Pennsylvania native, Duquesne grad, John Clayton. Pat, how are you? And what are you doing in Pittsburgh? Are you still in Antonio Brown or what? You and I both know I'm nowhere near that athletic.

I'm actually here with the WWE. But thank you for bringing up what I want to ask the one and only professor of this whole thing. It seems as if the Steelers might have an ego management problem with Lev Bell, James Harrison, now Antonio Brown. Is this an issue that's going to happen going forward? Are they going to have to rebuild an entire young team around Juju, a solid defense, and an aging Ben Roethlisberger? What do you think happens at the Pittsburgh Steelers? Actually, I think they've

now taken care of the problem because Le'Veon Bell is going to leave in free agency. They made the trade, so I think they've cleaned up the locker room now, and I think everybody in the locker room knows who's in charge. I mean, it's Ben Roethlisberger, and you've got to perform the way he wants. I think that Antonio had problems with that. Le'Veon was just more money-oriented than anything else.

And so when you put that all together, it's now, I think, it's a younger team, clearly, because, you know, Brown was in his 30s, Bell is still in his prime. But they're not going to be as talented. But I do think the locker room situation is going to be cleaned up, and it needs to be cleaned up, because you can see it got out of control. Mike Tomlin has to make sure that he has everybody now more disciplined. If guys are missing practice or showing late for meetings and all that, if not, he's not going to get a contract extension.

So I think the situation's now been cleaned up, but unfortunately for the Steelers, they're not as talented of a team. I think, and I've been saying this a little bit, managing egos is a real thing in the NFL, especially with the generation we're in now. Everybody has a social media. Everybody's kind of their own operating business. Everybody wants the flex. Managing egos is a real thing. The Steelers have not been great with it. They have not been great with it. Do you think if Juju becomes this massive superstar in a couple years, they're going to have

the same problem? Or do you think it was strictly a case-by-case basis in a couple unfortunate situations? No, it's basically a case-by-case basis. I think in the case of Juju, he's pretty humble, and I think he's not going to go in that direction. Antonio has always been a little bit different as far as how he handled things because you can see that there's a little bit of diva in him. And you know from being in a locker and a winning team for such a long period of time, the longer you're there, sometimes the players that have been there eight, nine years,

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a lot of money from my bookie. Have a good one. Okay, so the Steelers, obviously a big storyline, as are the Raiders they're potentially looking into Lev Bell as well I guess pro football talk reported can I ask you about the story dropped at like 1 a.m. by Ian Rappaport that says that Antonio Brown is going to the Buffalo Bills whenever this free agent frenzy comes to be, it's the insider's paradise.

It's time for the John Claytons, the Schefters, the Rappaports, the Kuypers, or not the Kuypers, the Mortensons, everybody. Like, this is the time of year. How do those conflicted stories get reported? Like, for instance, Amendola was going back to the Patriots, and now he's with the Lions. How does that stuff happen? Is it all just a work in progress?

All these negotiations could kind of change at any given moment? Is that the case? Oh yeah, that happens but the key is how you phrase things because if you phrase it wrong then it's going to be wrong because there was a deal with the Bills and the Steelers and the deal was basically one where they were

going to swap picks in the first round. Steelers would move from 20 to 9 and a couple other draft they were going to swap picks in the first round. Steelers would move from 20 to 9, and a couple other draft choices were going to be thrown in. But like anything else, there's some complications. So, for example, for that deal to get completed, and this is why the phrasing of it is, so it's better to say they're close to a deal as opposed to saying there's a deal. So what ended up happening is that they gave the Bills permission to talk to Drew Rosenhaus,

the agent for Antonio Brown, to see if he's interested in coming and if he was going to be a contract problem. Because Antonio has been saying that he wants more money and was the man trying to get it. And so when all of a sudden Antonio starts tweeting out how much he didn't want to go to Buffalo, he puts on Instagram and Facebook and all these different pictures of what he thought Buffalo was going to be like because he put a bowling alley and a pizza joint and all that stuff. What's it going to be like living there? And so that killed the deal.

And he almost killed the deal with the Raiders in the sense that they were having trouble negotiating the final price because after the Bills deal fell fell down the Steelers had nothing there was nothing on the on the table and so you know they got back together with the Raiders the Raiders offered the three and the five and then they were negotiating on a new deal and that almost fell apart but like anything else you know close is close but you can't say it's done until it's done because there's negotiations whether the player wants more money or doesn't want more money, and how much money is that going to be? Mike Mayock with a hell of a move fresh out of TV land

to get a 3 and a 5 and $30 million. That's not being talked about enough. It's not only just a 3 and a 5. It's also $30 million that had to come into place to get Antonio Brown. This market seems to be a heavy safety market. Eric Weddle ends up at the LA Rams. What are some other moves with some safety that you project or see happening? Well, I mean, the safety market is insane because if you go back to last year

and look at like the top 20, 21 paid safeties, 10 or 11 of them are on the market right now, which is remarkable. I mean, they pretty well have wiped out more than 15 starters either being cut on one-year deals. And so what I think that's going to end up doing is bringing the value of some of the safeties down because the market should go up to $13 million, but now I don't think there will be. And I think you can see with particularly the move with Eric Weddle just getting a little over $5 million, that was the first move that safety is getting less. Last year's safety market was ridiculous.

Nobody got hardly anything. Kenny Vaccaro, a former first-round pick, had to just scramble to get a very low deal. But I think you're going to see Earl Thomas go to the San Francisco 49ers. I think that you'll see maybe Landon Collins go to the Detroit Lions. That's a possibility. Collins, of course, I'm stunned that they didn't franchise him because they could have had him for $11.4 million. And he'll probably get about $11 million to go to Detroit. Then I can see that maybe the Giants are going to try to make a move on Tyron Matthews,

although I know Houston's going to try like crazy to get him re-signed, and they're still going to be able to do it. But this market's going to be absolutely insane for safeties. But I think there's only going to be maybe two that will get over $10 million. The rest of the group's going to get maybe between $7 and $9 million. What do you do on a day-to-day basis right now? Is this prime time for the professor, this free agency run? Oh, yeah, no question, because I try to keep track of every deal,

and I have a database that eventually I'll get every contract, and I'll put it into my database, and the database is there to give me the salary cap numbers of every team, and so I'm constantly calling, checking, trying to get everything

there, but I do a two-hour radio show here in Seattle, and that's going to be busy with the free agency. That's going to be 10 to 12 West Coast time. And then, of course, now I started writing a column for the Washington Post, so I'll be popping columns in for them. But it's a fun period because I just love the free agency part of it. I love the moves.

You can get quick evaluations of them. And that's what's so much fun because, again, it's constant news action. In the time that we're talking, there's probably going to be three or four deals that get done. For example, right when we started, Malik Jackson just ended up getting a deal to go to the Philadelphia Eagles for three years at $10 million. But I love this because, again, it's just constant action, and then it will keep going pretty much until July. You referenced there Drew Rosenhaus working the deal with the Buffalo Bills and it not paying off, so he had to do it with the Raiders. Do you check who free agents have as an agent,

and does that make you lean one way or another on whether or not the person is going to get a good deal or a good outcome? Yeah, it's always good to do that because, again, some of the best in the business, you know, are going to come out with good deals. Like in the case of Drew with Buffalo, I mean, Antonio did not want to go to Buffalo. And so that was a simple thing of saying, hey, he doesn't want to go to the Buffalo Bills. And that's why the Bills were smart enough to be able to get permission from the Steelers to be able to make that phone call. Because if they made that trade and then found out that Antonio Brown was going to hold out and not be there, it would have been good.

But then Drew was able to scramble at the last minute and get pretty good money out of the Oakland Raiders and satisfy his client. And again, that's a tough thing to do because at some point, you're going to run out of teams. And that's a tough thing to do because at some point you're going to run out of teams. And really, it was a last-minute thing because once the Bills deal fell apart, the Steelers had nothing, and it was almost as if Antonio was going to have to go back to Pittsburgh, which nobody wanted. Rosenhaus pulling the strings in the NFL on a regular basis.

What a human being. Okay, let's pivot real quick. DK Metcalf runs an insane 40 time, looks like a monster. His three-cone drill, though, slower than Tom Brady's. Are teams very high on DK Metcalf, or is there some question mark on his mobility?

I think you have to have question marks on his mobility, and I have to see, particularly when they interview him, and if he's going to be able to make the work ethic to be able to do it. Clearly, he's a freak. I mean, bench press is more than offensive lineman. He had 27 on the bench press. He's 6'3", 228 pounds, around a 4'3", 340, which is incredible. But I think you can see that pretty much all he can be at this stage is a deep threat

or a go-up-and-get-him type of guy because he's not going to do well on the short routes because of his footwork until he gets that better. But still, he's considered to be the best wide receiver in this draft, and it's not a great draft for wide receivers this year. I think what this did is help his stock a little bit, but he's probably going to end up going like about 19 or 20 in the first round. I think Tennessee might take him at 19.

Maybe he helped his stock a little bit with the workout, but again, the cone drill and all that, that had to be scary. Again, you look at also his production in college. I think he only had 69 catches. He is the best receiver in this draft or the highest rated receiver, but where he goes, it's not going to be as

high as he probably hopes. Kyler Murray's locked into the one? Is that just everybody in the biz knows that he's going to Arizona? No, there's still some options for them. Like, for example, their decision has to be, do you want Kyler Murray and then get rid of Josh Rosen, or do you want to take Nick Boza, and then what you do with Murray is trade him down to Oakland at four

and then you'd have a couple options there. I'm sure you'd get draft choice compensation probably at number one and maybe a little bit more. Or they could take the position that maybe they would take Derek Carr. That could be a possibility too because then Kyler Murray would be going to the Oakland Raiders. But, boy, can you imagine the problem that's going to be for Antonio Brown? Because here's Antonio Brown.

He wasn't happy that Juju Smith-Schuster was able to get more catches than him. And so he comes back and now will have to work with a rookie quarterback. And that means he may not have a 100-catch season. That's why Larry Fitzgerald was wise in making the statement. It's like, Antonio, you've kind of watch what you are doing here because how many times did Larry Fitzgerald get stuck with a rookie quarterback or a bad quarterback, and here's a Hall of Fame receiver who ends up getting less than 100 catches and sometimes less than 100,000 yards.

So, yeah, it's like it works well if Derek Carr is going to be there for Antonio, but if Kyler Murray is going to be there, at least until Kyler gets under, figures out how he can play in this league, it could be bad numbers for Antonio. Wait, so what's the conversation about Derek Carr? Are they going to ship him out of Oakland and draft Kyler? I don't think I – I must not have seen anything like this. There's a chance right now that the Raiders are going to move Derek Carr, draft Kyler Murray, and then Kyler Murray is the starter in Oakland going into Vegas. I did not

know that. Yeah, no, that's one of the rumors that was out last week that Derek Carr is at least being shopped or they're listening to offers on Derek Carr. But the problem is that it's a limited market for trades for quarterbacks. In Miami, they could be interested because they may cut Ryan Tannehill, but the problem is that they want to lose games this year so they can get one of the top picks in next year's draft. That's a problem. Washington

has already made their move. Denver has already made their move. Where's the market for Derek Carr in a trade? Maybe Arizona would be interested in doing it, but that's why I think Arizona is still in that stage where they have those two options and they're two viable options. But if not, then they'll just take Kyler Murray at number one.

Man, there was the tweet that there was love at first sight between Derek Carr and Antonio Brown as well. I wonder if Antonio, I wonder if Mr. Big Check, Mr. Big Check has any idea that that could potentially happen, or if he's like me and doesn't even know that. That's insane to think of. He probably hasn't thought through that yet, but at least he can now take that $19 million that he has

and still be happy with that. But then he's not going to be happy if he's not going to get his numbers. And those California taxes are going to play quite a game on that. Seattle. Seattle. was it Oakland? Who was the baseball team that was going to pay? I think it was Oakland or Seattle was going to pay Kyler Murray a bunch of money, and then that falls through. How do those conversations happen?

Does the MLB fly to Kyler Murray and say, hey, we've been paying you or we paid you $9 million or $4 million, whatever it was, and then Kyler Murray goes, you know what, I think I'm out on that. Did they make a play at him to keep him? Is there a chance Kyler Murray goes to the MLB even after the draft or is that thing all said and done? I think it's all said and done and he's not going to do that. But what happened is when he was in that deciding stage in January after he put his name in

for the combine and applied for the NFL draft, because he got $4.4 million in a signing bonus, and it's already in his pocket. So they had an Oakland A's representative, and they had somebody from baseball there to try to see if they can change some of the rules and get him more money, and they tried and tried and tried, and I'm sure that as time goes, they'll still continue to try. But if Murray's going to end up being the first pick in the draft, then he's going to get significantly more money than what the A's would be able to pay. I think it's one where they had the conversation. They'll probably still have the conversation.

But I think now that if he's going to be the number one pick, he's going to go into the NFL. What's the NFL look like next year, John? Are you excited with this? There's a whole new era right now with the AAFL launching, having a rough opening week, not being able to make payroll. Do you think there's any NFL usage of the AAFL being a training ground or a scouting field? It looks like an extended senior bowl, really. Do you think there's anybody from the AAFL that's going to end up

in the NFL if they have a big season? Oh yeah, there's no question. I think that there's at least two or three quarterbacks are going to get jobs, and I think it's a great situation because what the AAF needs to do is they need to work out a dual deal with the union, the NFLPA, and the NFL

so you can get either eight to ten players on futures contracts or guys that are currently on rosters and get them in the league. And you look and you see there's NFL players that are there, Terrence Garvin, who had been actually in Pittsburgh, started in Pittsburgh, and went to Washington and Seattle, and other guys. You can see Trent Richardson, I think, getting back in the NFL thanks to the AAF because he's made some good runs.

So, no, I think it's a good league in that sense, and I think if you only get better, I think that the new owner has come in, and he's going to get a better business sense of things and fix things up. So you hope it survives, and it needs to survive. I mean, you know how it was back in the days when there was the World League and guys could go over there. And within a year, at that time, you can take a quarterback and get him into the league and maybe even get him to start. Now, that's where I think this is so needed because you have so much less practice time now for all the teams in the NFL and all the players in the NFL.

I mean, you need a league right now to develop a lot of the things that aren't developed during the season and in the offseason. Amen. Who wins the Super Bowl next year, John? Well, I think probably the New England Patriots because it's all set up for them. I mean, think about in the last four years, they've lost three times on the road to Miami. Now Miami's in the rebuilding mode. And so now that means they'll go 6-0 in the division

because they'll win the game down in Miami. It's an easy division to win. That means all they have to do pretty much is go 6-4 like they did last year against the rest of the league. That gets them to 12 wins. It gets them home field advantage, and then with home field advantage, then they get a chance to, you know, because nobody seems to be able to go into New England and win

that nobody did last year. So I think it all sets it up for them to go into New England and win. Nobody did last year. So I think it all sets it up for them to go back to the Super Bowl. We'll see who they play. But the cycle just continues. That, Foxborough, is an electric place to play. It's tough to get a win there. And I'll tell you what, it's tough to find a smarter man when it comes to the NFL than at John Clayton NFL, host from 10 to noon on 710 ESPN in Seattle,

and also schooled with the Professor podcast available on all platforms, Pro Football Hall of Fame member John Clayton. I am so thankful you chose to join me, man. Thank you so much. You're the best. Hey, Matt. Thank you. Hey, that mullet thing, the rat tail thing?

Yeah. Was that ever a real thing or was that all just folklore? Oh, no, it's tucked in. I just tucked it. That was just all part of the commercial. That commercial is one of the best things that has ever graced my eyes. Oh, it was fun. Yeah, you did a great acting job there.

I didn't know super smart NFL analytics guy could get the acting bug, but you did great in there. Well, thank you. Do you still live in that bedroom there? Oh, absolutely, yeah. Yeah. Eat Chinese food.

Yeah, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, genius John Clayton. Big shout out to John Clayton. Super insider football talk right there. Yeah, he's a beast. Absolutely. I woke up four minutes before that interview. Wait a long night.

Took NyQuil last night. Night night, cuz. That interview was scheduled. Very thankful for Gorman getting old John Clayton, the professor. He was incredible on there. But I didn't set an alarm. And I didn't think I was going to sleep in that late. Time change thing really has got me going still.

I mean, we're still a couple of days out. It'll get you. It'll get you. I woke up four minutes before that thing. I had to call Cuzzy, and I'll tell you what. I'm thankful for John Clayton. He dropped some knowledge bombs on me. It had me feeling good going into the day.

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A little Santa. Just send us a positive message and positive vibes. We're enjoying the hell out of life. We hope you are as well. So thankful you chose to listen. Ty Schmidt, back in Indianapolis, probably with a big old fat lipper in his lip. Oh, yeah.

Ding. Just staring down the Green Bay Packers website, asking why the fuck they're not doing anything. The Lions are just making plays everywhere. Dad, come on, boys. Ty Schmidt, hit the music, man. And by the way, Packers still got Aaron Rodgers. They don't need to do anything else, Ty.

Get off the ledge, Ty. Okay? That's him spitting. He's so mad right now. He's pissed. Just end the show is what he's saying. All I'm trying to do is end the fucking show so I can upload it and go to bed is what he's saying. It's like 4 a.m. right now.

He's probably doing a couple impressions. Yep. Trying to keep himself alive. Yep. Probably just slammed about his 16th Red Bull of the day. Gut's probably feeling good. Maybe got a little workout in. Maybe Ty Schmidt got a workout in.

I don't think so. He said he's been doing the fitness thing. Yeah, he says that. Gut's probably feeling good. Maybe got a little workout in. Maybe Ty Schmidt got a workout in. Not a chance. I don't think so. He said he's been doing the fitness thing. Yeah, he says that. He's been saying he's been doing the fitness thing. Well, the last time he told me, he was literally sitting in front of an entire pepperoni pizza. Like an entire pepperoni pizza for himself.

I asked him if he wanted my potatoes, because normally he takes my potatoes after I eat my lunch, my brunch. And he goes, not today. And I go, why is that? He's like, I'm trying to take care of myself. In less than six seconds later, he sat down and opened an entire personal pepperoni pizza in-house. The entire thing. Shut the box.

Throw it away. And I just looked at him and he, like, waved at me and just walked away. Like, what he just said didn't even happen. I'm like, bro. Teich Schmitt's the best, though. The best. Yeah. He's the best. Still a lot of good players out there for the Packers, too.

Yeah, yeah. It's not over. It's not over. It's not over, Ty. Chris Ballard has spent no money either, dude. Chris Ballard, one of the best recent GMs, obviously. Belichick also not making a huge place. Yeah.

Let's just assume he's really good at football. We also got 15 picks, so I think we'll be all right. And you guys also have a lot of very good players. So we don't really make big plays. I mean, unless people want to come play for the Patriots, we won't pay them money. I don't know if that's how you should make a play. I'm better at of football than you are

I'll train you this and I'll get this and we'll go to the Super Bowl if I can keep our owner I'm getting massages on the day of the championship Ty Schmidt hit the music alright

what song are we playing? Highway to Hell Yeah that could be a Roadhog staple Could be a Roadhog staple Yeah I don't think we ever got the Knicks Window cracking Oh yeah you're right Oh yeah That's what got the Knicks window cracking.

Oh, yeah, you're right. That's what happened to the Knicks car, by the way, is his windshield got cracked because of the rain. Because of Cleveland, he thinks. The rain. And it's the rain. The rain. You dog Cleveland, Cleveland dogs back. It's mostly because of his negativity.

You don't dog the dog pound, bro. You don't dog the dog pound. The dog pound would dog your motherfucking ass right back. Maybe that's what we do. I took the money out of their casino. I took the money out of the good old Pittsburgh Rivers Casino. I'm good, baby. Yeah, but the question is, you have a crack in your windshield, and I want to know.

Yeah, and I got a fucking wallet full of cash, too. Hey, you let the dogs out. You let the dogs out. Who? Who? Who? You let the dogs out. I'll take? Who? You let the dogs out. I'll take the dogs out back behind the shed and put them down for good.

Ty Schmidt. After that negativity right there? Fucking old yeller bullshit. Who? Who? Who? They don't look like old yeller, but they're bulldogs. They got the big old...

Oh, yeah. They can't breathe. No, they're loyal, though. And they're rabid. And they're probably going to be the fans of the AFC North champions next year. That's either here or there. It's either here or there. We'll see.

I like being in Pittsburgh. Fans here are also very rabid and loyal. Yeah, they showed up tonight. They might be in a rebuilding phase. We don't know. But Nick was negative. Got a chip in his windshield. And all anybody wants to know is ty schmidt hit the music

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