The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 057 - March Madness, A Vegas Legend, & The Hardy Boyz

Episode Date: March 21, 2019

On today's show, Pat and the guys are locked in on the start of March Madness and chat about who they think is going to make some noise in the tournament, which spawns a conversations about the greatness of Zion Williamson, and whether or not he is the next LeBron. Also, one of the most electric guys around, sports handicapper, inspiration for the film "Two for the Money," and friend of the show, Brandon Lang, calls into the show to talk March Madness and give the guys a few sure fire locks as well as some other plays for deeper in the tournament, and tells some hilarious stories. If you're looking for free money, look no further (3:17-30:02). Also joining the show are two of the most accomplished entertainers in the history of sports entertainment. Holders of various titles, icons of the sport, The Hardy Boyz (Matt and Jeff Hardy) join the guys in studio to chat about their illustrious careers, what has changed in the wrestling business over the years, whether or not either one has any fear doing the insane stunts that they've pulled for years, what they still want to do in their careers before it's all said and done, who some of the wrestlers that helped them early in their careers were, and they each share some hilarious stories about their different concepts along the way and take a look back to their early days when they were wrestling in their backyard and appearing on RAW at the ages of 16 and 18, respectively. It's an incredible conversation with two incredible humans (50:01-1:21:39). Today is a really fun one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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on. We made money from jump, not just in the late rounds. We made money from jump because of the voice of this man. He has a website that gives away picks. He's trying to make us all rich, and it's sports gamblers heaven as March Madness kicks off today. Ladies and gentlemen, Brandon Lane. That was pretty epic last year to come on your show. First time I'd ever done your show. You were, of course, over with the other guys before you went solo. And tied Loyola Chicago to the Final Four. You're right.

Finished the tournament on a 13-2 run, making serious dough, and got things off on the right foot last night with South Dakota State plus a 7.5 hanging in there over Texas. So we're off to a good start. I got some zingers for you, brother, some absolute zingers that I think are going to shock the world,

and it's that time of year. Let's do it. I can't wait. Whenever you did the Loyola thing on our show, I believe you got some backlash from the room and the crowd. A couple laughs in your face. Turns out you were the last one to laugh, weren't you, Brandon? You were the last one laughing.

When you've been doing this for 27 years, you're going to get laughed at a lot. It's part of picking games, and if you tout big and you lose big, you're going to get shredded big. That's fine. That's fine. For an average-looking white guy, I've been laughed at, and I've picked up a lot of hot pussy in strip bars.

You know what? You can say whatever you want about me, but you walk into a strip bar with me, we're walking out of there, and we're not paying. Let me just tell you that. That's a whole other podcast and a whole other story. We want to talk hoops. We're going to talk hoops. Strap on your seatbelts and get ready to roll.

It starts in the Midwest. Your first upset in the first round, take a look at number four, Kansas, and number 13, Northeastern. Northeastern's got five starters back from last year. My sources tell me that when Kansas is done in this tournament, Bill Self is out of Lawrence like a fat girl in dodgeball. I'm telling you right now. That's your first big nugget.

I got it from multiple sources that he has done. I also have it in good authority. He's heading to the NBA, could land with the Chicago Bulls. Some room for him to take over with Pop at San Antonio because of his relationship with R.C. Buford. I don't see that. I see potentially going back to his Illinois roots and ending up with the Chicago Bulls.

But definitely, when this tournament is over for him, he is out of there at Kansas, and I think Northeastern gets him. Hey, is that all public knowledge right there, or did you just break some news that a professional sports handicapper just out-scoops the scoops people? Yeah, I've been touting it for two weeks now that I got it. I'm doing a little Adam Scheffner on the world. I did NBC National last week, gave it out on there.

I'm dropping that bomb. If you look at this program, 14 straight Big 12 titles came to an end. Players defecting, players suspending. It's just all coming to a head. The writing's on the wall. And I'm not saying he's involved in some shadiness, but Will Wade is not the first guy that we're going to see here in the next month or two that the gauntlet's going to fall on.

So I'm dropping that bomb that Bill Self will not be back at Kansas next year. Okay. A little Brandon Lang bomb right there. Okay, so Northeastern is a team that's going to get an early win over Kansas. Excited for that. Who else we got? Let's continue on. 14 seed Yale, the smart boys.

If you haven't seen this kid play, he's an absolute stud. His last name is like Olin. It's like Oin. He's an absolute stud. His last name is like Olin. It's like Oin. He's a 7 guy. He can flat-out play, boys. Jump on board. Yale plus the points, but don't be surprised to see LSU score him in the last five minutes of that game.

A couple more 13 seeds for you. Other than Northeastern, keep it on, my boys. Cal Irvine from the West Coast. I love my boys. Ben Wade probably playing injured for Kansas State, leading score. They're getting four and a half, five. There's your 13 seed over another four. Get you some UC Irvine plus the points.

They're, of course, going to get stopped in the next round by the Loyola Chicago of this year. Who is it? Here they come, boys. I saw them play last Friday night here at the T-Mobile scene in Vegas. I had courtside seats, and I watched one of the most entertaining games I've seen all year long. Oregon and Arizona State, six-point leads in regulation, a race on both sides.

Game went to overtime. Arizona State was down eight in overtime. Got it back tied. And Oregon got the win. Turned right around. Had courtside seats. Me and the wifey in another hottie. I was looking like I was courtside at the Lakers. It was unbelievable. It was her stripper friend from Sapphires. I made him wear tight

jeans and the boots. It was ungodly. But at the end of the day, I watched Oregon beat Washington and ran them out of the gym playing their fourth game in four days. It looked like they were playing a scrimmage at the local pickup game. It was unbelievable. They're healthy.

Their point guard, Pritchard, was the starting point guard on the team that went to the Final Four as a freshman. Keep your eye on the Oregon Ducks, who I got beating Virginia in the Sweet 16. I got them beating Tennessee in the Elite 8. Oregon is your final four without Sister Jean. Brandon Lang is on fire today.

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historically that's the big play a lot of people like nobody i don't think anybody's gone out and said they're gonna be virginia though to get in the sweet 16 i'm excited for that i like the yale thing we had dockage on the other day. He couldn't pronounce old Cousy's name either, but that dude must be the fucking truth. I didn't know that. And UC Irvine and Northeastern. Let's go, Brandon Lang. Look at you, big pimp in courtside at these goddamn games, by the way.

Hey, if your wife is as hot as mine is, and you've Googled her and you've seen it, and now that we've moved back to Vegas and I'm no longer in the witness Protection Program in Jacksonville, Florida, we can let it fly a little bit. We're out in the casinos. The girls love to pick up my wife, so I'm like, let's go. Let you be the third wheel.

Let's go. But if we're going out in public, you've got to dress slutty. You've got to be showcasing Langer the Banger at 56. Who just got into Bikram Hot Yoga, and here's a great story doing Bikram hot yoga last week I'm in there early getting decompressed to the 115 degree heat and I look up and there's a six seven black dude posting up his mat next to me I look over it's Elton Brand I'm like oh great I got you next to me we're doing Bikram yoga of course afterwards we talk about uh Gonzaga he was at the game when they lost to St. We're doing Bikram Yoga. Of course, afterwards we talk about Gonzaga.

He was at the game when they lost to St. Mary's. He gave me some really good nuggets going into this tournament as well. So listen, you got the hot wife. You're doing Bikram Yoga with ex-NBA and general managers of the Philadelphia 76ers. Getting all the little inside information and nuggets from my boy Pat Mackley. By the way, kudos. I listened to your broadcast that you did. Dude, you had me on the floor.

We need more of that. Kudos to you, buddy. Great job. Hey, Packers-Lions. Lions shut them out there in Week 17. That had to blow your doors off even for Langer, the banger there. Nobody expected that. No, I had them plus the points.

Didn't think they'd win the game outright, but you were getting a nice, big, fat, juicy 7.5-8 number in that game. Way too many points to give them in a divisional game. Langer the Banger. Is that the best nickname I've ever heard? It's close. For a 56-year-old man that's doing Bikram yoga, I think that is an incredible nickname. Is Langer the Banger something that's followed you a long time, or is it just coming into your own recently? No, it's followed me for a long time, but as just coming into your own recently? No, it's followed me for a long time. But as you get to know me, especially living back here in Vegas, it's, it's my wife likes to go out and showcase. And so we've been, we've been out and about and it's, it's a great city to live in

when, when, you know, you got a hot wife that wants to go to the strip bars and get lap dances. It's a pretty good spot to be. Listen, if you come to Vegas and you do Vegas with me, a pretty good spot to be. Listen, if you come to Vegas and you do Vegas with me, it's a Star Trek moment. That's what it is. What do you mean Star Trek moment, brother? Because we fucking go where no man has gone.

Are you guys like little socialites out there in Las Vegas? You and the wife? Yes. The wife likes to take it deep. I'm sorry. You come out here and you're single, the wife? Yes. The wife likes to take it deep. I'm sorry. You come out here and you're single, the wife will get a friend for you

and we take it deep. Deep. Deep undercover. Eddie Murphy, Beverly Hills, top one deep undercover. Wow. So is your life just going out in Vegas with the wife, having a good time,

being seen, seeing people, and then just sports all day every day? Because it seems like you're always collecting information. Even if you're in the middle of a namaste yoga situation, you're always Scott. It's true. It's true. It's a good release because of the pressure of this job and winning games. So after I hit the Super Bowl with New England,

there was a great three-week run there in February where we went out a lot and enjoyed the benefits of winning that game. And then now we're kind of shut down until I get through March Madness, and then April is a really good month to just go out and release. But I've gotten like three hours sleep. You're like the 15th

radio show I've done today. I've been up since 4 a.m. Vegas time. No drugs, natural energy. I can't be doing rails and meth at four o'clock and doing radio shows i'm sorry i'm not one of those but i'm not 56 nope can't and with a 10 year old daughter i gotta be i gotta be fair to her now 36 whole different stories you better you better slow it down at 56 oh fuck it hey man all right well i can't thank you enough for that. You know, we have a gambling podcast now.

The boys are started. They're 15 and 5 in their last couple shows. 75% not a big deal. Is that good enough to get it with BrandonLang.com? Yes, it is. Yes, it is. What was your percentage of people I had to get to get in on BrandonLang.com? Because everybody thinks they're a professional sports handicapper.

When you do it for 20 plus years, you're a fucking OG of it. I assume everybody wants to get in. To get into BrandonLang.com, sports handicapper, what do the people have to shoot? You know, it's over a year. Just show you have an opinion and show that you have a good opinion and that you can support an analysis. A lot of people can say, I like Team A,

but give me a reason why you like Team A. Like, I'll give you an example. I had South Dakota. One thing about me is that if I give you a play and you read my analysis, if you go to brandoling.com right now and you click on my page, I have the analysis posted from last night, South Dakota State, my 200-dimer on North Carolina over Duke at North Carolina, but read the Clemson-Alabama analysis.

Because the Clemson-Alabama analysis was, I didn't just say Clemson was going to cover that number. I said Clemson was going to beat them by double digits. And so when everybody said, wow, we didn't see this coming, I had about 200 emails to my customer service team saying, hey, B. Lang, great double-digit call on Clemson, not just a cover against Alabama. You said

they were going to beat them by double digits, and it wasn't even going to be close. And that's what I pride myself most, Pat. I'm not going to win every game. I'm going to lose games. I'm going to go on losing streaks. But at least when you read my analysis, at least fucking know what I'm talking about. I just can to lose games. I'm going to go on losing streaks. But at least when you read my analysis, at least fucking know what I'm talking about. I can't help that my backcourt in St. Bonaventure on Sunday

against St. Louis, the two brothers shot 4 of 34. I can't crawl through the fucking TV and make a shot for these morons. I just can't do it. You were on the right side. You were on the right side. Fucking unbelievable that the guard Lofton, who scores 23 in the semis, shoots two of 10, and Dominique Welch's running partner shoots three of 14, and they're one of 14 from three.

Make a fucking shot, you moron. Can't take you whenever they do that to you, Langer the Banger. I can't stand it. You know what? You're Langer the Banger. I can't stand it. You know what? You're in the gym all day. You're on a college scholarship. Just make a fucking shot. I saw Pat McAfee on a video in some room shooting a nice jumper with a mic on, hitting threes.

Pat McAfee can do that. Can I get a fucking freshman on a scholarship that can make a three for me inside the last three minutes? You know, he might have failed a test. He is a student human athlete. You got to remember that. That's true. A lot of weed going around those college doors. Hey, I'm at BrandonLang.com.

Can I make a suggestion? Yes. We need a picture of you at the top of this BrandonLang.com, because right now you just got a picture of a guy named DeMarco who gives daily discounts. You don't have to spend big money to make big money. And that guy's face is basically the picture of BrandonLang.com. No, that's not true.

You got the picture of me, Matt, now at the top. Nope. Nope, not on a cell phone. I mean, maybe on a computer, but on a cell phone. Oh, the cell phone, no. You're right. The cell phone is different. But that's actually a – I've never looked at my website on my cell phone.

Hey, B-Lang, trying to help you out here a little bit because you've got this DeMarco guy's face right up here in the front. He looks like the – would you look at that guy? It's literally, you know, just look at it. That guy, he literally looks exactly like that guy, and he's the first thing I see. I'm like, I think the – Oh, that's great.

Listen, he does an unbelievable job. He leans toward the chalk a little bit, but he had a nice play last night on Memphis. He's actually had a really good three-month run of consistent winning. A little too much chalk for me, but, you know, listen, as he always says, whether it's chalks or dogs, as long as you get paid on it, that's all that matters, but he did have a really nice play on Memphis last night, and Chris Jordan had a nice play on Belmont, which I think everybody had,

but this is the time of year to make money. I gave you some good nuggets. I think Purdue and Old Dominion, the halftime score of that game might be 10-9. I'd probably play under, and Purdue, under in Purdue ODU. ODU can't score.

Two highest-scoring games I think we're going to get is Auburn, New Mexico State, and Murray State and Marquette. It's going to be a high-scoring game. So a couple totals for you. Hey, okay. They're just gifts. You're giving out gifts right now. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven bets you just gave us to lock in.

Langer the banger. And if we can bet on self going to the fucking Bulls or the NBA, I wish I could bet on a futures bet for that. I get that. But when I go 0-7 and I catch the backlash from that, Langer fucking sucks. I don't know why you have that cock sucking motherfucker on. He doesn't do shit.

Everybody will forget about Loyola Chicago last year. What have you done for me lately, Langer? That's what my bank account wants to know. That's it. That's it. That's it, Pat. that's it Pat so uh congratulations on the podcast uh good stuff man hey uh B Lang did you did I tell you the story about uh me on the chalk uh this particular last NFL season kind of scared me away from gambling

for a while did you tell you no you didn't you get you beat up a little bit oh boy I was going money line and it was a lock man I was I was fucking hot. Like three weeks in a row, just dominating four weeks. I might have won the first five weeks with one of the highest percentages in the history of gambling, probably, in the NFL. I was like, this is a fucking easy thing. So then I just started dumping money on money lines for people. Titans beat the Patriots in Tennessee. Really demoralized my bank account and me as a gambler. It was tough.

It was tough stuff. It was tough stuff, Lane. But did you have the Patriots in the Super Bowl? Yeah, I believe I did. Once it got to the point where it seemed as if the Patriots were going to do whatever the Patriots do, I did take the Patriots the rest of the way. Yeah, I think it was after Phil Rivers came to town, was supposed to win, and then he just got slaughtered.

It was like, well, they're still the Patriots. You know what I mean? Yep, they are. You get Belichick two weeks to pair against, I think, the 11-2 against quarterbacks who have been in the league three years or less. Can you name the two quarterbacks that beat him? Nick Foles. No.

Okay. Mark Sanchez. Yes. Very good. Nobody gets that one. Unbelievable. Unbelievable Sanchez? Yes. Very good. Nobody gets that one. Unbelievable. Oh, man. You remember.

Nice. Yay! Nice. Who's number two? Flacco? Yes! There it is. Yay!

Come on! It's a good Patriots fan. That guy's a diehard Patriots fan. Yeah, he probably has nightmares of those. Only two guys that have played three years or less to beat him, so Goff wasn't going to beat him. Listen, people don't realize the final score of that game should have probably been 30-13,

but Tom Brady was so fucking bad in the first three quarters of that game. It was ungodly to watch. Hey, he was throwing some ducks out there, some missed targets, but he's back in the game. Obviously going to win probably four more Super Bowls before it's all said and done. Who's your early favorite for the Super Bowl next year?

Guys, call me crazy. Call me nuts. Call me, I hit the bong right now while you guys were playing those little hoorays. Put some money on the Cleveland Browns. I'm a big fan of them as well. Also a big fan of yours. They were so close. Their defense was getting so much better.

I like the hire, but Odell Beckham and Jarvis Landry together are going to be a nightmare. They superseded their win total last year, and in that division that's going to be down, Pittsburgh's done. I can't believe Tomlin still has a job. I really don't. I think

Cleveland wins that division and makes some noise in the playoffs. Alright, so we got Northeastern, Yale, UC Irvine, Oregon, Purdue under, Murray State over, then Cleveland Browns win the Super Bowl

because the Pittsburgh Steelers are dead. Wow, that's a shame. That's, if I've never heard you repeat back to me, that's literally 0-9 waiting to happen. Oh! I hope not. Listen, I can't come on your show last year after the Sister Jean Loyola Chicago run and duplicate that.

Yes, you can. I'm set up to get absolutely drilled. I don't like your negativity right now. Yes, you can. You're Brandon fucking Lang. You know what it is? It's the magic of the Pat McAfee show. That's what it is. That's what I try. It's called the McAfee show. That's what it is.

That's what I try. It's called the McAfee bump. It's a real thing. Go ahead, Dave. You came on earlier in the year, right before Buffalo played Marquette. Do you still like Buffalo as a team in this tournament? I don't like their draw. I don't like the fact that they set them up with Arizona State potentially or St. John's, which I think are two teams that really match up with what they do. Buffalo plays a certain way.

They don't have a real low post threat that's going to go down there and get you buckets. Perkins is good. He's got a great outside shot. He can extend the defense. But in the NCAA tournament, when you start to advance, you need a big that can go down in that low post and get you buckets. And I just think they've got a raw draw.

I really do. But listen, if they can get by Arizona State, then you got Texas Tech who just locks down defensively. That West bracket is a fucking minefield. It's one of the hardest brackets. Texas Tech, Michigan, Nevada, Florida State, Marquette, Gonzaga, whoever comes out of that's going to be tired because it's just going to be a slugfest.

It's madness, isn't it? It's March Madness. And so I got North Carolina winning it all, boys. North Carolina? Brantley, get the fuck off the phone. Hey, Zion Williamson, you think Zion's going to lose? He sat out half a year. He's fresh, ready to go.

He just put up 30 back-to-back. Barely missed any shots. You think Zion Williamson is going to let Duke lose to anybody? Let me break your heart. You ready? No, don't do it. The NCAA tournament has statistics. And I know every statistic, people will say they're due to be broken.

No team has ever won, since we've gone to this format, no team has ever won the national championship that is ranked 300th or worse in three-point field goal percentage. Duke is ranked 311th. So they don't shoot the three well. They just don't. They don't have a bench.

So as you go in this tournament, they've got to face Virginia Tech, well. They just don't. They don't have a bench. So as you go in this tournament, they've got to face Virginia Tech, who got their second leading score back, who's playing. And then they've got to face Michigan State, who's getting no credit whatsoever for the season that they had. And then they've got Gonzaga, who's got two bigs that are going

to punch Zion right in the face, which they did in Hawaii. And so, you've got Michigan State, who's going to send Goins in the face, which they did in Hawaii. And so you've got Michigan State who's going to send Goins, Tillman, and Ward at him. They're still freshmen. And lastly, research it. Since the one-and-dones have started,

no team's won a national championship with one-and-dones. It's yet to happen. You can't do it in a tournament. You are. All right. I'm going to let you know, right? You made one wrong prediction, and that was it. I don't think Zion— Okay, listen.

I'm just saying if they do it and they're the first to do it, then I'm going to force them to do it because it's just so hard in this tournament when you're freshmen and you get to the Elite Eight and you get to the Final Four and that pressure, you're going to feel it. It's not playing in the ACC. It's not playing in the ACC. It's not playing in the ACC tournament against teams you're familiar with. It is the pressure, you know, and some guys will feel that. They're still freshmen.

Yeah, they've had a great year. Yeah, he's good, but he's not God. He's not LeBron James. He is beautiful. I digress. He's been doing basketball in front of millions of people since he's 12 years old. Literally, he's been on social media and on YouTube dunking and being the topic of conversation for the last 10 years. I think this dude's a different animal. I think Zion is LeBron James. I think he is the next face of the NBA. I think he will sign a $1 billion contract with Nike as soon as he graduates. a $1 billion contract with Nike as soon as he graduates. And I think the NBA is about to go right there on his back.

He's going to lose like 15 pounds. He might be jumping from the NBA three-point line to fucking dunk. I think he is the guy. I'm all in on this Zion. I'm all in on this. I get it. But let me ask you this. You played basketball, correct? Yeah, all the time, yeah.

Okay. So you understand basketball, correct? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Okay. When he gets to the NBA, he's going to have to learn to go to his right. He's going to have to learn to dribble with his right hand because all the teams that he's playing are so fucking stupid. They just keep letting him go to his left side. When you get in the NBA and you're defended by guys that are going to rip your fucking heart out because they're playing for a paycheck, it's a different story.

LeBron could go to his left. LeBron could go to his right. He's left-hand dominant, and he's got a funky jump shot. And when you get to the NBA, you're going to have guys that are going to have their hand on both your fucking ball sacks when they're defending you at the three-point line. He's not going to have little golly-ga-ga open threes. I love his game, but I'm telling you, he's not God.

And you and I will revisit this conversation when Duke does not win the NCAA championship and Zion has a horrible game against a team that comes up with a defensive scheme and shuts him down. Can't wait for that conversation. Thankful for this one. You're the best, B. Lang. Langer the banger, BrandonLang.com. Go and check him down. Can't wait for that conversation. Thankful for this one. You're the best, B. Lange. Lange or the banger,

BrandonLange.com. Go and check him out. The guy's been in business 20 plus years. Hilarious human. I can't wait. Listen, get to Vegas, would you? Let's go Star Trek.

I can't, bro. I can't. I got a life I have to live. I can't go out there. I'll end up dead. I'll end up dead. It'll be a hangover movie type thing.

All right, buddy boy. Talk to you next week. Hey, I appreciate you, man. I'll end up dead. It'll be a hangover movie type thing. All right, buddy boy. Talk to you next week. Hey, I appreciate you, man. Brandon Lang, ladies. Thanks, guys. Thank you, man. You're fucking hilarious. All right.

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No, I think Vegas people flock to Vegas. I think he was created and then he knew. Some sort of magnetic field. I think guys like that, too, when the NCAA tourney starts to get closer, their juices just start going everywhere. Yeah, because this is Super Bowl time for handicappers. There's so much money to be made. And that's what we're going to do.

We're going to make a bunch of money. I believe so. Damn right. Both with Bro Bro Bro Bets and Brandon Lang's Incredible Brain. I'm a little bit upset that we didn't get a chance to talk to Brandon Lang about Gorman. I know. That was too bad. I was really looking forward to that.

I was staring at you and then I would look at Gorman every once in a while. Didn't crack a smile one time. Brandon Lang was cracking jokes today. He was. Telling stories. Gorman would not budge. He's a beaut. The last time Brandon Lang was on here, Gorman asked Brandon Lang

about whenever Brandon Lang would caddy for Jim Irsay and Gorman was there. And Brandon Lang, right to Gorman's ear hole, said, I don't have a clue who you are. Same guy who called me

in my hotel room. Same guy who's like, hey, can I get Jim's number? His personal line. You know, he's that guy. Come on. He did big time you, though. You do not deserve a Brandon Lincoln.

I don't think... If he didn't remember me, he didn't remember you. I'm calling BS on that, but I'll tell you what. Maybe he was sick of you big timeing him back in the day. Big time Gorms. What year was this around? 4 or 5. 4 or 5 this around? 4 or 5. Oh, 4 or 5?

Yeah. So you would remember. I was in high school then, by the way. Graduated high school. I don't fight until I die. I graduated on 666. Oh. Wow.

Love high school. You just move that to the fifth. That's what happened. Move that to the fifth or to the seventh. And high school. You just move that to the fifth. That's what happened. Move that to the fifth or to the seventh. And he did. I was going to get into it, but he was feeling good about himself. He said he did 15 interviews. He's about 45 Red Bulls deep.

I didn't want to dig up any beef between you two. I got no beef. I'm on your team, though. I want to let you know I'm on your team. It's been a pleasant 18 or 15 years that I haven't talked to the guy, but you know. And count today as well. You guys didn't say a word. Had the opportunity.

You did not. I had a couple eye rolls on the Northeastern and the Yales. Oh. A couple eye rolls. Okay, today's a huge day. March Madness begins. I hope you're either listening to us before the game starts or while the games are happening. Oh, my God.

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The podcast does a lot of things. What will we be doing for March Madness? We'll be posted up watching here. I hope so. All six TVs. This does feel like something the entire United States comes and rallies around. One out of five United States citizens bets on this tournament. One out of five.

Not just fills out a bracket? Bets? Well, fills out a bracket. It's an entry fee. But pays in it. That is gambling. 20% of Americans participating in this. That's a lot.

And I would assume there's a lot of TVs on here as well. It's like the Super Bowl, but it's numerous days. I'm very excited for it i think we got a lot of information both from dockage brandon lang and bro bro bro bets oh yeah who has been on a heater lately absolute heater new podcast check it out um i'm excited to watch zion williamson though just completely dominate brandon lang there kind of got a little chippy with Zion at the end. Off air here in the office, Gorman and Brandon Lang, just like they were 15 years ago, buddy the fuck buddy up on their thoughts about Zion Williamson.

I think Zion is a lock to put on an incredible show this March. No doubt. I'm agreeing with you. No doubt. Who did you compare him to? Julius Randall. Oh my goodness. It's unbelievable. These old people. I thought you called him Zach Randolph too, didn't you?

You called him Zach Randolph too, didn't you? I may have. Julius Page? This is unbelievable. No, Julius Randolph. Zion Williamson is a generational talent. For sure. He is the next one in the NBA. Unless he gets injured. I will take it back. If he gets injured, which in the nba unless he gets injured i will take it back everything i say if he gets injured which he got very unlucky that he got hurt this year and i

think it was even mentioned somewhere like well he is injury prince like uh yeah if his fucking shoe blows up is that gonna happen in 2020 is that gonna happen in the nba i think he is the next guy and honestly what was his quote? What did he say, Ty? He said, they just asked him coming back from missing all those games, how he could get back into the offense so quickly. He just said, killers kill. Listen to that. Killers kill.

That is a Kobe mentality. That is an MJ mentality. That's not a LeBron mentality. LeBron does not have... I'm a long-time LeBron guy. I do think there's a chance that this particular year he may be intoxicated on the floor. A little bit.

Maybe. I mean, that's a wild shot to send out to somebody, but I think there's a chance that for some of the videos that I'd seen on the internet that LeBron James is doing things that LeBron James should not be doing

and is not doing. I'm not talking about sitting at the end of the bench because he's all wrapped up on ice and shit like that. So getting up for a pointless timeout can definitely look worse. But the lack of effort and the sitting out on things and letting the ball roll all the way to the other three and then just hucking up a brick.

That's not what LeBron James does. But Zion will be that next guy. I think he will carry the NBA all the way in. Did you see the next night after he did the roll to the three-point line and huck it up? He did the roll to the three-point line and it rolled out of bounds. That is not a LeBron James move. I am worried about the Zion injury strictly because for this,

that's a big boy with a lot of momentum and a lot of speed, and the tendons can only be so strong. But I think he is. They'll send him down. I think he's the next guy. By the way, student human athlete. But I think he is. They'll send him down. I think he's the next guy. I think he's. And by the way, student human athlete. Yes. That's a good point.

Right now he's taking Duke classes. Those aren't West Virginia classes. Oh, no, no. No pass fail. Those aren't classes that that kid in that NCAA student athlete day in the life video was taking. Nope. Definitely not.

That kid, by the way, exactly how my days were. I'll say something about Zion here. Just a quick little jog. Hold on. That video. Just a quick little jog midday before practice. That video couldn't have been... It might have been, actually. It's the least self-aware video

I've ever seen in the history of any organization. The NCAA putting that video out is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen. the history of any organization. The NCAA putting that video out is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever seen. Why are they doing that? Why would they even set themselves up for that? Because they don't know. Just like March Madness,

how all of America comes together for March Madness to watch it, that was the biggest unifier I've ever seen for college athletes. It's like the Ed O'Banion lawsuit back in the day for the game. Everybody came together and was like, this thing's a fucking joke. This is not a day in the life. Then game everybody came together and was like this thing's a fucking joke this is not a day into life then you saw some people who are like you know like the overachievers they were like uh try 5 30 wake up so you can get an extra study session in before the workout then you gotta go to class then you go practice then you got another workout

then you go to study hall then you got more classes to get at night i'm like i you're gonna just eliminate all those classes my life was a lot easier than that guys in the video but a lot of people it wasn't i thought that was a very dumb dumb dumb move by them but zion whenever he has a chance to just shoot and focus on basketball guy's gonna be unstoppable yep he's gonna be unstoppable all the nutritionists that they have these days, physical trainers, physical therapists, film room, the shoes that they're going to pay him a billion dollars to wear, he's going to be unstoppable. Zion's the next one, Gorman.

It's not even close. Okay. That doesn't sound convinced. That's all I got. You think he's not going to be good. He's going to be great. I've never said he's not going to be great. The only disagreement that I have with you is you said he is the next LeBron,

and I'm saying slow your roll. Slow your roll. He's a much different player. The only issue is Giannis. Giannis, he's starting to get – yeah, him. Yeah, he's fucking awesome. He's getting hot right now, so he might take a little bit of the shine away, which is good for Zion, by the way.

If Zion doesn't have to carry the league on his back the first year out there, that's good for him. But are they tanking for Zion, by the way. If Zion doesn't have to carry the league on his back the first year out there, that's good for him. But are they tanking for Zion, the Lakers? No, they're nowhere near that. They're not that down. It'll be like the Knicks. Which, by the way, Kyrie Irving has been linked to. Oh yeah, Kevin Durant as well.

Yeah. He will win more championships than LeBron did. Knicks, Suns, Cleveland, and someone else. There was four teams. Atlanta? What if he ends up in fucking Cleveland again? The Cavaliers, that guy. Then Zion leaves

and then comes back again. What if it is exactly... Oh, he's not like LeBron. What if it's the exact fucking thing? That would be insane. I think he is... I think Zion's the next one.

I'm excited to watch him. I'm excited to watch that Yale kid, too. Nobody can get his name right. Sounds like Ohno. That's how we know that Yale kid too. Nobody can get his name right. Sounds like Ohno. That's how we know. Yeah. What is so difficult

about his name? Let me look it up. No one's have looked it up yet. The three times we heard his name. I read it today too. The only thing I got on the kid, smart kid. So it is spelled M-I-Y-E.

First name. That's his first name. Mie. Last name is O-N-I. Yeah, that's what I thought. Mie Oney? It's Oney. Mie Oney.

Mie Oney's about to be money for us. That's what everybody's saying. I'm excited to watch him. Does anybody have any sleepers that haven't been talked about that they think are really going to explode? Houston's been talking about. Doc, it's dropped to Houston. Yeah.

I brought it up to Doc. Hey, Lose a Cincy. What the fuck are you talking about here, pal? It's automatically going to be Cincinnati beating Iowa? I don't like that. Watch Iowa to maybe sneak into this Sweet 16. There's the sleeper. Sleeper.

I've seen you almost have a couple heart attacks because of this fucking Iowa basketball team. Yeah, they stink until they don't. We'll see. Stay hot, boys. Nevada went far last year. They have pretty much the same team back. I like Nevada.

That Buffalo team? There you go. Buffalo's good. I like Syracuse against Gonzaga in that second round. I am shooting college threes at 11 o'clock today. Let's go. Come get with us. It'll be a good time.

We'll kick off March Madness and making money bankrupt Bankruptingmybookie.ag. Promo code PAT. 50% bonus on your first deposit. Yeah, go over. Yeah, I think so. On everything. Yeah, go over. I think so. Go over. For sure. I think we hammered the over on this one. I've been shooting a lot of NBA threes here the last couple years. The college three is

a free throw. It's nice to take a step in. It's literally a free throw. And I'm excited about it. I'm going to get hot in there. I'm going to get a step in. It's literally a free throw. And I'm excited about it. I'm going to get hot in there. I'm going to get hot in there. Got five minutes. The highest over is at 30. Yep.

I think you go ahead and hammer that. Highest in a row is six. I think you go ahead and hammer that. I mean, maybe we'll catch a groove there. Maybe we go 30 in a row. Ooh. Maybe. You know what I mean?

Maybe. Break the record. Maybe. That'd be impressive. Yeah, I'd be impressed. Maybe we go five in a row and just leave one short at six. I hope you get hot, like real hot in the beginning, and then literally take a minute and a half break.

Oh, yeah. Just walking around, taking some water. Patting the bench. Patting the bench a little bit. I don't think so. Why? I mean, I'm betting the overs on Auburn. Well, I'm saying, yeah, if he's got 22 after the first minute and 15 seconds,

make a phone call. Excuse me. I'm going to get this arm here. I'm a little loosey-goosey. Let me remind you of a little story. The fox and the hare. Or no, the tortoise and the turtle. There you go.

The fertile and the talks. Turtle and something. Rabbit. There it is. Tortoise and hare. There it is. Thanks, Steve. Fucking turtles. rabbit there is tortoise and hair that's the biggest bullshit story in history that hair smokes that fucking tortoise ten times out of ten well he stopped and has had a cigarette break one beer led to another yeah but i mean hindsight we all agree that that tortoise got no shot

correct tortoise got no shot he's. That tortoise got no shot. He's getting fucking dusted. Unless the hare quits somehow. Is the hare going to quit? Gets hurt, maybe? No, no. Still think he would. Him dragging himself, army crawling, his fashion and tortoise moving.

Those tortoises move half an inch a minute. Slow. You should recreate that kid story. I got a lot of kid stories I got questions about. Yeah. That one in particular. Three little pigs. Makes no sense.

No sense. No, this old piggy did this. This old piggy did this. This old piggy did this. The hard-boiled egg. Why don't they ever hang out together? What's a hard-boiled egg? Talking about Humpty Dumpty?

Yeah. The hard-boiled egg. It was hard-boiled. Would be a lot better. He would be fine. He would bounce. But why would an egg hang out on top of a fucking ledge? Like, come on, bro.

What are you doing? What are you doing? Adapt. What's that? I don't know. Todd, you want to take care of this thing? What's the other one? I'm not supposed to bow and arrow.

Three blind mice. It's a slower death. Three blind mice? Yeah. Mice aren't blind. They've been robbing us blind. They're colorblind. Believe me, we know. No, Pat literally has a blind mouse. Mice aren't blind. They've been robbing us blind. Believe me, we know.

No, Pat literally has a blind mouse. Yeah, very poor eyesight. Terrible eyes. Well known. He's got a great home. Did we talk about the Huff and Puff already? Yeah. That's in a previous conversation. That's a bad show.

That's a bad show. That's a bad show. Tweet us videos of you watching the game from wherever the fuck you're at. Oh, yeah. We want to watch along with you. Yeah. Do you feel like you're back yet for your tournament? What's that? Do you feel like you're back yet for your tournament?

Yeah. I got the link, though. I got the link sent to me by Ty. And I got the link sent to me by Foxy. And I'll probably get the link sent to me one more time from somebody. Sam's in. Let's go. Sam has filled out her bracket.

She's part of it. We have over a couple thousand people in that bracket. Yeah, no big deal. Only about three, four times as many as their featured brackets on the front page there. Out of the way. Here we go again. Yeah.

Here we go again. Why do we get no respect? YouTube wouldn't give us a silver medallion. No. Nope. ESPN buries us to the bottom of the bracket things. Unbelievable. Fuck.

It's all right. We're in this together. We're a team. You listeners and us, we're a goddamn team. It's really all we care about. And while we're watching March Madness today, you know what we do? We watch as a team. Yeah.

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An interview with two legends in the WWE and in entertainment in general from North Carolina, the Hardy Boys. Send those photos in. Phil Manes hates doing it. We're going to force him to give away a bunch of shit today. It's March Madness. It's McAfee Store Madness. Giving away merch.

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joining us now is Wrestling Sports Entertainment Royalty. They've actually been in the game so long, they were once professional wrestlers, now they're sports entertainers. Coming up on a 25-year anniversary with the WWE, 27 years in the wrestling business. They've hold every single championship

that you could think of in wrestling. They've been all around the world. Ladies and gentlemen, legends amongst men, the Hardy Boys. The Hardy Boys. Thank you very much for that rousing good morning everyone you another typical day on the road i was about to say you got in here uh we got your coffee got you feeling good you guys have been doing this sports entertainment wrestling lifestyle for a long ass time and it's not an easy one it's not an easy one. It's not an easy one. So if you could explain people what the last 24 hours were for you guys here,

25 years into this thing, I think that would be a great explanation of the life that you guys have lived. Yeah. If we go back 24 years ago, I mean, 24 hours ago. If we go back 24 years ago, we'll never finish this.

But if we go back 24 hours ago, it started, we got up went to the gym okay came back cleaned up uh went had a nice little lunch at a sushi place yesterday we made a drive over to rockford illinois uh illinois from peoria we ended up doing a live event last night in rockford and after we wrestled in a triple threat match and like i said we've been doing this for 27 years so you know we're beat up every match we feel and then we got in the car and we drove four hours and change here to Indianapolis and then we also lost an hour so we went from central time zone to east coast time yeah and then uh we got in and by the time I took

my bath of rejuvenation last night where I soaked the old vessel for a few minutes and get ready to crash and get up again. It was a little after four. Then we were up a little after eight today. So, so sorry that you had to come here. I would like to let you know that. I would like to let you know that I am not happy about what you had to do this morning. I wouldn't have it any other way. Oh, that was very nice of you yeah life's too short man get it hey great now let's that goes over to you life's too short uh mr jeff hardy you are known as being a um lunatic when it comes to what you're willing to do with your body and things like that i watched a documentary whenever you guys came back to the wwe i believe it was a wrestlemania

huge pop you were a lot of things happening in there, they were talking about whether or not you have fear or not of anything. You've been known to jump off of things that are... I mean, asinine high. Do you know the tallest thing you've hopped off of? Yeah, the swan to Randy Orton was 33 feet.

Wow. Just three stories. That's not a work number. The commentator would probably say, it's at least 50 feet down. Yeah, fella. It was legit. People are like, Seamus will say, it's 50 feet, fella.

Yeah, I mean, it was legit 33 feet. We were walking into the building at Rockford yesterday, and a bunch of fans were out there. We went through, and one guy said, there's the lunatic fringe. Dean? I'm not dean i'm jim uh but life's too short is what your brother just said there i'd assume this is something that you guys live by but whenever you're doing these death defying stunts is there any thought or anything or is it just like yo let's just own this moment right now i think my my high spots come from my background in motocross,

because I was a big motocross guy growing up. I wanted to be a pro, but it cost money to race, so wrestling worked out a lot better. So yeah, just building my own jumps back in the day and trying to conquer them is the same thing I kind of do in those TLC matches and all that stuff. It's insane. It is absolutely insane. I mean, we've got a trampoline out here strictly,

so we can do some swanton bombs onto them and have you judge us and i was standing up on the mezzanine which is probably what 15 feet above that trampoline maybe not even probably 10 feet above that thing and i was the butt was i don't understand how you guys do it was that the tlc matches those are the ones that uh you guys recall the most in your career what is like the most memorable moment of the hardy boys you think i mean those matches definitely stand out and and that's when we were both all in and even thinking back like young and healthy and and really we were up for doing anything like probably more than anybody else and so they come up to you they're like yeah you want to do this and you guys are like yeah let's do it but yeah yeah but i mean we would also be say well what if we do this and we jump off this ladder that's balanced on this balcony and then we go through these three tables.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, let's back off a little bit. You know, they would have to pull us back on things even back in those days. And especially him. I mean, like literally no fear like on his end. And still, I'm still blown away that, you know, every night now on a live event, he'll go up and do a Whisper in the Wind or a Swanton. And just the way that his body, the endurance, like it makes me think he's indestructible in many ways. And fear, I've always said this, fear is part of the fun. When it works out, it's great.

But when you don't make it, it sucks. That adrenaline rush comes from the fear. 25 years into this thing, how many more years we got? We going for another 25 boys Is that the thought Well according to The guy that was At the gym last night

He said that I've been doing this For 50 We've been entertaining him For 50 So maybe he was From the future So maybe we do have

24 25 more years In front of us I don't know That's one of those Things for sure It's just kind of We kind of go by feeling

Like I had Three and a half Almost four months off just recently and it was nice i was able to like train and get into a regular routine and spend a lot of time with my kids i have two young boys so that really recharged me and i think if if i kind of have those moments of uh being recharged and let my body heal and and kind of get healthy again i think i have a so a little more fuel left in the tank you know, personally. Jeff, you just got back off an injury as well, I believe. Yeah, I was out for – I made it – we came back at WrestleMania 33,

and I made it six months in just one night. My shoulder had been bugging me for like two months. And one night I just had this uppercut, and it's like a loud pop, and I thought it was dislocated. But, yeah, my rotator cuff tore, and so I was out for exactly six months. So now I've got a year and a half left now after this year's wrestlemania so uh you know i just i don't think i can do it four days a week after that contract expires but you know just a limited schedule i think are you guys

doing four days a week right now yeah the fuck what how how because i told you guys this whenever you walked in the road hawks and i me nick connor foxy back there we did fast lane which was in cleveland and then we did cleveland to pittsburgh and then from pittsburgh i flew to orlando and did disney world which i don't know if you've ever done it's fucking nightmare it's a real nightmare but i my body almost crashed after that you guys have been doing this for do you have you ever put a number on how many shows you guys have done in your career oh god uh matches or anything like that there's a bunch i don't know i mean we could probably do some sort of math and round it off or whatever but like i mean that's one thing about this the

schedule i mean there are times where it was grueling. Looking back to last April, I know I was on the road for almost a month straight at one point when we were doing this. We had a deal where we went to South Africa. We started here in the U.S., did a couple shows. We did TV. We flew down to South Africa, did a week there. Flew all the way back to St. Louis to do TV and then get on a plane and then went to Saudi Arabia and was there for a week. By the way, you guys made it out of that country. Good.

Yeah. We're here. We're here. And then we literally went home for a couple days, Canada, and then over to Europe for two weeks. I mean, I was literally almost gone for that full month man this was intense this was a dream though everybody knows that the Hardy Boys this has been the dream since you were kids

and you've lived it beyond anybody's expectations I'd assume yours as well but whenever you guys were wrestling on trampolines or at the compound or whatever was happening growing up. Is this how you envisioned it? Is this how you saw the Hardy Boys going?

I think so. Pretty much. My daughter, actually, last week, we have a trampoline. I tried to put the netting up around it, but I'm not smart enough. Hey, it took seven guys here. Wow. I could not figure it out. But anyway, she asked me last week,

do you think we can build a ring around it like you and Matt had when you were kids? I said, hell yeah, we can. We will. We're going to do that soon. But yeah, I mean, like back during that Attitude era, for example, it was wild. We were just wide open. It was sold out shows all the time. It just felt like we were never home.

But yeah, I think we always envisioned it like this. Yeah, I mean, I definitely, we grew up as, we were both big baseball fans. We were both pretty good at baseball, you know, and we played like into our teen years and stuff. But once we saw wrestling on TV and became WWE addicts, like, oh my God, this is what we got to do. This is the coolest thing ever because these guys were like living, breathing superheroes. And they're real, you know, like we loved comic books, but these guys like almost guys that have superpowers and they really go out and they do this and they entertain people and we just wanted to be the wb world tag team champions one time so anything past that was extra credit so we we achieved a

lot of extra credit as that goes a lot but uh but but but yeah man still i think to this day like you know there's obviously the the real life issue of like you know we both have kids and families and we like being at home and having that time but still like this is was our dream and we love know there's obviously the the real life issue of like you know we both have kids and families and we like being at home and having that time but still like this is was our dream and we love doing it and we're very lucky you know so many people in life don't get to do what they're passionate about and something they love so we get to do it day in and day out are you guys the og you guys are the ogs now do you take that into something that like is very important to you like teaching the younger uh generation of sports entertainers,

like how to do a right and shit like that. I'm not a teacher at all. Don't ask me questions. I'll compliment. That's about all I do. That was great. Can I do anything different? No, keep doing.

And Matt, on the other hand, he's the, he's the leader. That was probably, that's probably more my role. You know, like I, I, I do the, the talking and he's the, he's the leader. That's probably more my role. I do the talking, and he's the big star. Yeah, man, I do. I like if there's little things I can do to help guys or give them info that might help them kind of advance in what they're doing in the ring. But also, too, I think just as far as dealing and being okay with the lifestyle,

I think I'm very beneficial in that capacity because we've lived through everything, good, bad. Top styles all the time. And we totally know the way the whole deal works. And I'm very good at being focused in reality. And I can tell someone if they're having an issue or problem, this is the reality of the situation, so this is just what you need to do.

You know, CTFO. Shield the out. PG era, bro. Don't do it. Who are some young superstars, though, that you guys see and you're like, you know what, we respect the way they operate, or like a young tag team, or maybe even solo superstars, anything like that? I'm blown away right now by Mustafa Ali, that guy.

He got his ass kicked over there at Fastlane, too. He came into the watch along. It was all banged up. But his story is incredible right now. Yeah, and that's when they did the upside-down knee. He went for the deal, right? Yeah. That was amazing.

And that 450 on the apron, I mean, holy. I don't know how he does it. That has to hurt, right? Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. People thought I was crazy. I mean, holy. I don't know how you do it. That has to hurt, right? Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. People thought I was crazy. I missed a swanton. Shinsuke was on the apron

at SummerSlam last year, and people thought I was crazy for that. I was going, this guy just did a 450 on the apron. Wow. What an impact.

I mean, Jesus. I mean, that apron is, I mean, it's so hard, and it's like concrete, and then, too, there's just like such a little area for you to like land on, you know, correctly. It's like such a tricky thing.

That became like a cool deal to do stuff on the apron. Oh, do it on the apron. It's different. No one does it. People overdo it. Just do it in the middle of the ring, brother. That's my motto. Power bombed on that apron now.

And it's like that's a new thing now. And it looks insane. Yeah. My ass is too old to be doing stuff on the apron hey you used to fly around too that elbow drop you used to do that i don't know if you still do is that still in the repertoire once in a while yeah i do stuff once in a while i uh i did that leg drop for a long long time and that that really like especially the old wb rings were set up for like 350 400 pound monsters back in the day and like when we first started and i'm sure it contributed to sean michael's back injury you

know initially because those rings were like concrete they had very little give and they weren't meant for smaller guys they weren't bumping rings so to say so like when we first started you know every night you know we were taking all these crazy bumps but you know finish on house shows where you do 10 nights on, four nights off, was the leg drop splash off the top rope on our opponent. And that, like my hips and lower back and stuff, that became an issue later from dropping that leg night after night after night after night. And then eventually it dropped down to the second rope.

And then after the second rope it started being, and the elbow goes back and back. Brother, with age comes evolution and also intelligence i like being able to walk in the morning do you do you watch what has happened to wrestlers before your time and maybe even at the beginning of your time and the way their body has reacted over age do you guys do the yoga every it seems as if ddp has got everybody doing the yoga but do you guys do the yoga every it seems as if ddp has got everybody doing the yoga but do you guys do yoga or anything like that what is the body regimen to keep it all intact because i don't want to say you guys are young but you're not old but 25 years and something

is a long ass time to be doing something you've got to take care of your body especially whenever it's your i mean it's your weapon basically it's everything I just When I first got DDP's yoga deal Like I I tried I did it good for about Two weeks or something But it takes a lot of discipline To make yourself do that all the time

But I I pretty much Like pick my favorite exercises From like his routine And I do them every morning So it's definitely helped I mean along the way Really?

So you do You do do the yoga Yeah What are you supposed to say Instead of me saying do do Like when you Perform You're a yogi No but like Really? So you do do the yoga? What are you supposed to say instead of me saying do-do? Like when you perform? You're a yogi.

No, but like whatever. So you do do. Is there a word better than that? You do the yoga. You do the yoga. I feel like I just sound like an imbecile when I say that. Like, oh, you do-do-do-do. It's on me. I'd maybe slide utilize in there.

Oh. Hey, utilize in there. Oh. Hey, utilize. Broken Matt Hardy, by the way, your diction is next level. It was unbelievable. I didn't see it whenever you were doing it at a previous place, not to be mentioned. But whenever it came up, actually, I don't even know if I should have said that. But whenever you brought it into the WWE, I was kind of taken aback by it at first, but then once I started listening to the words

that were coming out of your mouth, I was like, this dude must just read dictionary every fucking night. It was some very impressive mental gymkhana by your part. I love that job. It was very impressive. Thank you. I'm a big fan of words, especially adjectives.

I love adjectives. Couldn't even guess what that is. Couldn't even guess what an adjective is. Describing one. Yeah, I mean, the whole point of the thing, like when I started doing the whole Broken Met gig was like, I wanted to do things where

kind of the new generation fans, the smarter fans, the more the fans who are more aware of what's going on, you know, on a multi-level scenario. Like, so they would, you know, I would say insider terminology or insider jokes, and I would kind of wink at the audience so they would get what's going on. And then for the casual fans who didn't understand my reference or whatever the insider joke is that I'm making, I would say stuff so outrageous and over the top that they would at least think it was funny. And it was like kids really dug it more than anything else you know it was a great kids act for sure i enjoyed it

yeah the the teeth clump too i mean i i think that's the most aggressive thing you do because it didn't give a moment one of them things can chip you know what i mean no for sure yeah and and like uh when i was uh right before i came here, there was a point where I would make comebacks as a babyface, as a good guy. And I would just bite every part of my opponent's body. And it would get a bigger reaction than these guys having a bump. So everybody wanted to work with me. Oh my god, you can just bite me and I don't have to fall down time after time after time. So that worked, man.

That was good stuff. What's on the horizon For the Hardy Boys You guys were solo competitors Oh I guess you were hurt That's why you went solo There for a little bit You guys gonna be a tag team For the foreseeable future

I think yeah We got a good little run In us But yeah when I was out With that shoulder surgery Matt you know Became woken And everything changed

So yeah it's cool to be back I miss doing the Brother Nero and I love that Broken Universe stuff. Always will. Because last night, every night, since Matt had that surgery, I came back and went to SmackDown, all this and that.

You can always get him deleting. Yeah. That's a powerful thing. Yeah, you bust that. You utilize. I do do. I do do delete. That's a powerful thing.

Even when we came back at Mania, we could hear it in the distance, like people chanting just in case it might be the Hardy Boys. You know, they were doing that. That's a powerful movement. How did that come about, the delete taunt? Once again, I was trying to, whenever I was in the feud with him that we had and we built to this final deletion match,

I was trying to think of a word I could use that would be different and new and fresh besides like beat. I'm going to beat my opponent or I'm going to beat my brother or I'm going to like

end my brother. And I was like, I don't know. It's broken mat kind of can do stuff kind of off the wall, whatever. What about delete?

That's kind of like a cool word that people use on social media now because they use it all the time. And then like, and I'll even do a sign with it.

That's like the swipe, like everybody does on the phone who doesn't do that on their smart device. See, I was thinking, cause it's every once in a while, you guys, you go from chest. Yeah.

I mean, that's where, I mean, I would see him when, whenever I was at home kind of doing my routine and, and he certainly would utilize my delete. But that's all right. You know, he had right to it. Like the, home kind of doing my routine and then he certainly would utilize my delete but that's alright you know he had right to it like yeah the whole broken mat thing wouldn't have worked if he hadn't been so committed to his role as brother

Nero and me like you know once again being upset he was a spot monkey you know because he had a terrible addiction we get to a point where I literally wouldn't let him jump off the ropes. And I was like, and the funny thing is, that was part of the story, but I was like, seriously, man, you're going to kill yourself. Slow down. You're doing too much. The people just want to see Jeff Hardy. You don't have to do a

swanton, whisper in the wind, and sacrifice yourself to the floor every single night. We'll do this whole gimmick. I'll make you Brother Nero. I kind of am in control of you and then like you just wrestle okay just punch me okay i want you to heal up okay that was the whole point behind that you are family there and he he says fear is a part of it or whatever is it tough for you to watch whenever he's about to do something that's just ludicrous is it is or what is it uh no i mean i get it and i i get what makes it and this is something that i say to wrestling fans i mean like

jeff is like got the kindest heart of anybody you'll ever meet and he really feels like he owes it to wrestling fans because once again we're two kids that grew up in the middle of nowhere north carolina and cameron a very very small country town and he feels like he owes it to them to give him everything he has when he goes out and and that's a great mentality and attitude to have but also too there's also like the reality of like taking care of your body especially as you get older you know so like i get it when he does stuff and sometimes uh so you feel like you're letting down the audience there if you don't do something just absolutely absurd i mean i could see you being trapped by that fear of letting people down.

Not really. Not so much. That's one thing with, I think, my deal now more than ever is the paint, the face paint. Because I grew up loving the ultimate warrior, the road warriors, you know, anybody that painted their face. I wasn't sure why, but I just loved, I guess, the artistic, you know, thing that's inside me. But last night, for example, I didn't feel like painting my face, but I was i was like man i know there's some kid out there that's waiting to see this especially with the eyes closed and the zombie walk and all that so i'm gonna do it so i i gosh for the last i think i'm now my instagram there's a little over 100 uh shows that painted my face you know every night

so i've kept it rolling this but it's so much extra work but that's one thing i think i i can do now instead you know doing a swanton every night so by the way great move great move so you you have to prepare during your day time to paint your face has there ever been a time where it's been close oh for sure man like when i like just throw something together the worst look ever but yeah like a few weeks ago i was moved to first from fourth or whatever so i was in extreme rush and i was doing the deal where i i paint a face on my face this little weird obsolete man you know on my face and uh so yeah it was just a rush job but i i've always been able to make it make it happen so yeah luckily it has every time i see you come out

i'm always like yeah i wonder how long that took and i wonder if there was a moment of like oh shit only gonna paint half the face tonight only gonna paint half true many times like a full-on fear panic mode i i it's so impressive when he does that like and and i'm watching him he does it so quickly and he's just so artistic like i know if i tried that like i would paint my face and i would come out he would go they'd be like oh bless his heart he tried oh he tried that man he's a sweet little man so brainstorming like whenever you came up with broken mat and the delete and stuff like that is that a real session or do you do it like when you're on the road or is there like do you have people helping you out, or is it just you two kind of coming together for, like, ideas and stories and stuff like that?

Yeah, I mean, that was pretty much on me. Whenever that came to be where I was working, that's pretty much where I kind of got my say-so, and I ended up being at a point where I had kind of, like, control. How do you pitch at the events? I assume you have to pitch at the events. Well, what happened, whenever we're here and I'm doing the Woken thing, we come back initially and we kind of start as the Hardy Boys.

And then Jeff gets hurt and he's gone. I just walk into TV one day and they go, oh, my God. You've got to go into Vince. You've got to explain to him what this Broken Mount Hardy means and what he does and what motivates him and how he came to be. And I had a one-on-one conversation with Vince for 30 minutes explaining Broken Mount Hardy and how it came to be. It was one of the most entertaining conversations of my life.

I was thinking of it right now. Yeah. Me too. Vince McMahon. And he obviously was all in because it seemed as if it just started coming in full bore. You're on every show doing it. I assume. Is that the case?

Yeah. I mean, yeah. You know, I think it was a a little as far as like kind of trying to play to two masters like i i don't know if he fully kind of comprehended all that in some ways because he's very much like you know he does like comic book characters or superheroes and when you're like a gimmick character and that's what he promotes and does you know like in wrestling has just changed so much as time goes on but like it was so fun there's i said so see this is the deal see like now once i became broken and i said, so see, this is the deal.

See, now once I became broken and I utilized more of my mind, and this is what I'm telling Vince in this meeting, I said I can utilize more of my mind where the human being can utilize X percent amount of their mind. Now I can do like five times that. So I'm aware of where my soul, where my essence has been in all these other bodies. So I've been able to track it for over 2,000 years and now my soul just happens to be

inside the body of the man that is a wrestler named Matt Hardy and my soul's name is Zenith that is my essence. Okay. You know what I'm just saying? Okay. I wish you would have just got drug tests the next day. Give me the drug tests. I'll take them all. I wish you would have just got drug tested

like the next day give me the drug test I'll take them all the NFL that would have happened in the NFL if I walk into Commissioner Goodell here's what I'm thinking I would have got drug tested the next day what a moment I said well when I was away

I watched a lot of TV I got into a lot of good TV shows you know I started watching True Blood and I saw these vampires that had pieces throughout time. I said, that was kind of my inspiration for this. Oh, I like that. Yeah, I wanted to ask Jeff, because you were talking about the arts, and then I was reading about you earlier, and it said you do sculpture as well. And I wanted to ask, are you doing ice sculptures? What type of sculptures are you working with?

No, years ago. I don't do them anymore, but years ago, I used to take plastic jugs and bottles and like duct tape them up and like to like this uh i made a huge thing i made a bamboo skeleton and then just built this big man around it and i called him uh niromi and actually had a water hose that went up his leg and he i could actually turn the water on it he would shoot water out of his ass it was the wildest thing and this is years ago but yeah that just just took so much time and so much patience. But yeah, back in the day, the Illuminumies, I used to paint. The Illuminumies.

You paint, like, for real? I do, yeah, for sure. Yeah, when I have time, I'm on canvas. Who's your favorite painter of all time? Of all time, probably M.C. Escher. Bob Ross is probably the right answer. Bob Ross, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll break out a little Jeff Ross later.

That'd be hilarious. You guys got anything for him? I got something for you. Yeah, here we go. Professionally, you've been linked for 27 years. Has there been any time in your career where you guys just did not want to talk to one another? You had beefs, and even though professionally you had to make it look like you were close and brothers, but actually had some beef that you guys were like, I ain't talking to him.

He ain't talking to me. That happens with me and my brother all the time. He works here. He'd keep him in his corner, though. I don't think so. It's pretty in tune, I believe. Yeah, yeah. No, we've never had that point where we've been at each other's throats.

We've had, I guess, scenarios where we've had disagreements or we kind of see things in different lights, but yeah, we've never had a big blowout. Usually, we're really easygoing and get along great together. How were you guys individually in school? If a teacher, when you're in high school, if a teacher described you both individually, what would they say about you?

Me, least likely to succeed. Anything. Kids got a lot of quitting. Yeah, I was more the brain guy, once again. It's funny, JR would make that analogy a lot. He'd say, well, you know, Jeff Hardy's the sizzle, Matt Hardy's the steak. You know, I was pretty good, a stronger math guy, a stronger math guy than verbal in English.

But I did pretty good in school. math guy than verbal in English. But I did pretty good in school. We love a good math joke here. Who got you guys in? Who are some older people that kind of helped you get – not got you in, but helped you whenever you were younger and stuff like that? I've got to give it up to the Italian Stallion and George South. They broke us in back in 94 being job guys. Yeah, that's when we first got an opportunity.

Well, like I said, we'd started in 92. It's a very weird story. Obviously, we had this trampoline in our backyard for a couple years, like 89, 90, and we're boing, boing, boing, boing, wrestling around, emulating what we saw on TV. And then we met a guy whose name was Kenneth Morgan, and he came up to us, and he met a friend of ours, Tracy Goodell, who was like six years older than me. How old are you guys at this time, 17, 18? Jeff was, when we met Kenneth Morgan, yeah, you were probably 14.

14, maybe almost 15. And I was probably 16. So we met this guy, and he said, well, yeah, and he's a very, very Southern dude. He's like, well, you know, I do a lot of stuff for McCarney for the fairs. And he said, I've got this ring that's going to be a breakthrough. It's like half real wrestling ring. It's half trampoline.

I think you boys would be great for it if you want to come do some shows. Maybe you can make a few dollars. So then we did some shows with him at a fair. And then he realized, like, oh, well, you can't get rich off this wrestling stuff doing shows at the fair or whatever. So we ended up actually buying that ring. I worked at a car wash and Jeff did landscaping. And we bought that ring. We converted it to a solid, hard ring.

And then we kind of started training ourselves. And then a guy that we'd met said, oh, you should come with us to PWF. And it was an independent promotion in North Carolina. It ran by the Italian sign George South. And we're like, okay, brothers, well, if you guys just do all our shows for free, we do two or three nights a week. We'll take you to WDB and we'll give you a chance to wrestle the real big superstars. And then May of 1994,

we both went. I was 18. Jeff was 16. And Stallion made him lie about his age. He had to move up his birthday two years later. He signed up to release for him. And we both wrestled. I wrestled on live TV against Nikolai Volkov, 18, and Jeff was 16 years old,

wrestled against Scott Hall, Razor Ramon. He's a little pale white kid out there. Razor Ramon just beating the hell out of a 16-year-old on TV? A junior in high school. Bad guy. That hard-ass ring, my little 185-pound body didn't make it budge. I went back to school and said, Hey,ay night i'm gonna be able to succeed my ass hey teacher lady you on tv what's so funny is like they we had just got like amateur wrestling at our high school like our high

school was small and i didn't get to do it like you know while while i was there we had it the year after i graduated and then jeff was uh doing amateur wrestling and he was good at it. And then they told him, well, coach, what do they do? He said, I don't know. Since you're doing this professional wrestling, that might be a conflict since you're getting paid. I think we're going to have to kick you off the team. There was a big scandal at Union Pines High School

in the middle of the country. Because you got paid $25 to get smashed on TV. My sophomore year, I think I finished third in the state, so I did very well for my first year ever wrestling. And by the time my junior year rolled around, we'd already started going to the Fed, you know, back in the day. But, yeah, when I came back after that, yeah, that's what they used to call it. Any wrestler still gets joked about all the time,

go, hey, brother, you guys working for the Fed now? Or they go, hey, brother, you guys working for New York? Oh, yeah brother you guys working for the fed now or they go hey brother you guys working for new york oh yeah is you guys working for the e you know like there's all these slangs and still indie guys some indie guys that are holding on to the you know the 80s territory days love to use that that terminology when the uh athletic director found out about me being on tv as a pro wrestler he he pulled me aside one day i said you don't like this he said he said are you making money for wrestling i said yeah yeah they pay us a little bit he said well that you can't wrestle here that'd be like you being in nfl and coming back i think it's a little different did you see my match athletic director did you did you see that's incredible

uh it's amazing wild journey you guys have been on and it's been awesome to kind of watch you guys evolve and change and through honestly through the ebbs and flows of the whole thing it's been really cool as a fan to watch the hardy boys kind of evolve and uh i think i speak for everybody and say thank you guys for your service i mean your bodies your bodies have been just fucking ragdoll for our entertainment for years and i'm very thankful for it i think i speak for a lot of people when i say that honestly well well thank you and and once again like you know we're we're blessed man we're living the dream this is what we always wanted to do and it's provided us a

great life so you know no complaints here and we were talking earlier uh we might be going to smackdown this evening if you don't go off a 33-foot high thing, we're all going to be disappointed. I'm not going to let you down, guys. Don't do it. I would feel so bad. What if we start booing? Get the fuck down!

That's not what we're here for, Jeff! Just punch somebody. Just paint your face. Ladies and gentlemen, legends in the wrestling world, the Hardy Boys. Thank you so much, gentlemen. Thank you. Wild story on those guys.

Yeah. They were very nice, though, weren't they? I loved hanging out with those guys. They were very nice. They've been there, done that with everything. Everything. Absolutely. 16-year-old wrestling with Razor Ramon on Monday night.

That's absurd. Going back to school. Goes to school on Monday. It's like playing in the NFL and then coming back to high school football. Hindsight, athletic director. Kind of feels bad about himself, I bet. You said, Todd, him being third in the state,

his first year wrestling is insane. Yeah, when he said that, I was in shock. I was like, maybe I heard it wrong. And then he had repeated it again later. And I'm like, first year ever going out for wrestling, you got third in the state? I guarantee you that's never happened before. No way.

He's an incredible entertainer. He's a front man for a band. He's an artist. Talented humans. I'm a big fan of them. I'm thankful they came into the office. I'm thankful that they came on the show. Go watch a big fan of them. I'm thankful they came into the office. I'm thankful that they came on the show. Go watch a video on the YouTube.

Foxy went to work on that thing. It looks beautiful. And other than that, we're so thankful for all of you. You're the goddamn best. Ty Schmidt, hit the music. We'll be right back. I'm a man of my word. We'll be right back. I'm a woman. We'll be right back.