The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 063 - Magic Johnson

Episode Date: April 11, 2019

On today’s show, Pat talks a little more about the massive fine that Zito is responsible for, and The Pub makes a PSA for all it’s members asking for help paying the fine (shirts available at store.PatMcAfeeShow.com with promo code “FreeZito”.) Pat and the guys also cover the whole MyBookie situation, and discuss Magic Johnson stepping down as President of Basketball Operations for the Lakers, and why he chose to do so on the same night that Dirk Nowitzki and Dwyane Wade retired. Pat also makes a big announcement regarding his upcoming golf outing, and answers a couple questions from Instagram for another edition of #ChatWithPat. Also joining the show is friend of the program, co-host of That’s Hockey Talk, and starting center for the Arizona Cardinals, AQ Shipley. They dive deep into the NHL playoffs and what AQ thinks about being in the podcast game. He also discusses what he expects from the Arizona Cardinals this year and how Kliff Kingsbury has been in the locker room so far, what it’s like being a dad, whether or not NFL players have the responsibility of getting their eventual replacements ready to play, and what he’s been doing to keep himself busy while waiting for the NFL season to start (1:00:06-1:39:07). Today is a fun one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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For the kids. It's for the kids. My foundation gives scholarships to children of military families, so the money's going to a good place, and you could potentially win $10,000. Ladies and gentlemen of the pub, we need your help. We do. You may have seen a video surface recently of our guy Zito destroying an awning and destroying an RV.

Allegedly, of course. Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck. With that being said, our boss Pat McAfee and our CFO Maynes, are fining Zito a lucrative amount of money. Very, very happy. Steep for all the destruction that he caused. Zito is being fined a handsome amount from PMI. Jesus Christ. Pub members always have each other's back.

Since the beginning. Pub members always have each other's back. Since the beginning. With that being said, we are releasing three new t-shirts in order to help Zito pay his fines. Yep. If you use promo code FREEZITO, you will get 20% off these t-shirts. And if we sell X amount, and we don't know how many it is. We don't know. They didn't tell us. didn't tell us how many we have to sell but if we sell X amount

he will slash that fine in half in half and we all know Zito needs that I think it's stuck and we all know the pub especially needs that. I fucking told you guys. Pub members, you guys came through last time for the St. Paddy's Day sale.

Let's go. You got us a new bar. Now you gotta help Zito out. Who told you to go through here? These guys did. I got this lucrative fine in half. Free Zito. Free Zito. Free Zito.

Free him. Free him. Free him. Free him. All right. The pub and its members have gone to

complete desperation at this point. In total desperation. Please help us. You got to do what you got to do. They released a video in an attempt myself and Phil Maynes CFO of PMI. desperation. Please help us. You gotta do what you gotta do. They released a video in an attempt.

Myself and Phil Maynes, CFO of PMI. Not my CFO. You don't have a company, so... So you're correct. So you're 100% right. You don't have a CFO. Have negotiated terms with the pub that if they sell X amount

of shirts, the amount has not been disclosed to the pub or disclosed to us either. I don't think we know yet. It's just we're waiting to see how many. Zito's fine will be cut in half. And obviously the pub took advantage of this and put a Shania Twain PSA. Sarah McLachlan. Help me with money because I can't drive. Shania Twain, PSA, Sarah McLachlan.

Help me with money because I can't drive. Shania Twain. It's a real adult move by you guys. You know, we had to. And to be completely honest, there are three beautiful shirts. First and foremost, Pat, Phil, thank you for the opportunity to cut this off. Good idea. Slash this line in half.

Good idea, Foxy. Opportunity When I broke my collarbone with no health insurance mind you Handling no, cuz you're an adult. Well, you also didn't cost the company a very very substantial amount of responsibility There were no yellow shirts telling you to ride that scooter Zito. It was fucking Zito. Yeah, Zito said, get on the scooter. I'm renting it for you. He was the yellow shirt that day. Zito's conscious company more destruction. Well, Nick, I think we can all agree that you handled that the way Nick Moroto would handle

that. You took it right on the chin. You went into the doctor early. Right to the collarbone. And you kind of handled that. The boys at the pub are always trying to scheme. No, they're always scheming. One team, one dream. Exactly.

I would also like to mention, I would also like to mention, I think that CFO Phil is kind of covering his ass here because he got the cheap insurance. That is left out of the story here. Left out of the story. Wait, may I? Foxy does not speak for the out of the story here. May I? Foxy. Foxy does not speak for the rest of the crew. Foxy, I'm twice your age. A little bit of help for you.

You never fuck over or talk bad about the CFO. The CFO can fuck you. The front office. The guy who runs the money. Now, just for future reference, I don't think Phil and I have decided what the X is in X amount. Well, I assume the insurance company will decide that.

Yep. I think they will. But also, I think it's an aggressive decision by you guys. Not my CFO, you say, Connor. Hold on. Then Foxy takes a shot at him. Because Phil and I are going to have to sit down and be like, okay, what's the number of shots?

And Phil's going to say an astronomical number. I'm going to be like, Phil, come on. I know they took some personal shots of you. You guys are going to make it hard for me to negotiate. So now I'm put in a bad spot. I've had a sit down with Phil already, and we're kind of on the same page. I assume when Phil was getting the insurance policy, he didn't expect you to run into an owning.

Yeah, the owning wasn't a part of the insurance policy. But it was his decision. And, you know, Foxy, he's not taking shots. He's just telling the truth here. The person that I asked specifically, Phil, should we get the cheap insurance or the expensive insurance? Phil's response, the man who you say is in charge of the payroll and the money, cheap insurance, please.

By the way, Phil read through all of this stuff, and he is yet to panic one bit. Phil is – I talked to Phil yesterday. Phil said, I think we all just need to calm down. Never die to him. Yes, it was a terrible situation that a dummy put us into. Yes, the video and the playback is very loud. Yes, Ty Schmidt thought he was in World War II during it.

Yes, Nick Morata was inches away from actual death. No, not even a clavicle. Death. Painted my face with his brains. But Phil is the one that went through all the paperwork. So Phil understands and kept his cool the entire time. But he and I will discuss the X amount and I think you guys, if you keep

doing these pity sales that you're doing, can potentially reach it. So I'm happy for the pub. Congratulations. I will say, great shirts though. All amazing shirts. sales that you're doing can potentially reach it. So I'm happy for the pup. Congratulations. I will say, though, great shirts, though. All amazing shirts. Just so you're aware, Pat, I did a quick number crunch earlier this morning. If we're thinking $25 a shirt, we should only

have to sell about 48,000 shirts. I checked out that math, and it is correct. By the way, it's 20% off, so it's only $20. Promo code free Zito. 20% off. The three shirts and the Game of Thrones shirts are in there. They just weren't in that video we talked about. The Pub Collection is out now helping to cut Zito's fine in half.

We'll see if that happens. Can I say something here, too? I just want to personally apologize to you and to the company here because I feel like I dropped the ball here. I should have stepped up and handled the rental of the RV instead of relying on someone like Connor to go through with this.

That's on me, guys. That's on me. We also should have stepped in and just said this is probably a bad idea. This was a beautiful... Do you remember when Connor first had his conversation with the RV rental? He actually said,

I was talking to nobody about nothing over there. Yeah, and it was nobody about nothing. I was shocked when it was first happening that he was doing it, but we were all invested in another conversation. He took it upon himself to do it, which I liked. I was like, okay.

And it went well, and the RV was beautiful, and the videos went perfect as well. Well, I mean, the only thing with the RV, though, is it might have been a little bit too tall. Yeah, that's true. I should have looked into the height of it, I know, but I was just looking at length. And the mileage per day and cleaning out the tank. Mileage per day was factored into cost. Cleaning out the tank, it's $50, which if you need to take that out of my account

for sure, I just didn't want to dump shit. Phil, did you hear that? Go ahead, Phil. $50, chop it off. I just didn't want to take the shit out of the RV that we've been on for 30 hours at that point. Dump it. Were you guys literally shitting on the RV? I took a dump on

that shit, yeah. Road code number one, number two is don't deuce on the bus. Rule number two gets broken a lot. There's an asterisk next to number two. Road code number one has been know your clearance. That rule got broken one time and that was enough.

Road code number two, don't deuce on the bus though. Very much a rule that gets broken. You got to go. You got to go. Did you ever find your wallet? Nope. Lost my wallet. It was also sucked into that black hole of an RV, too. So I need to. Hey, but with that being said, I knew in my heart of hearts I need an Indiana ID now, I believe.

So, you know, got to go get that new license. Shout out to the pub really putting forth an effort to save Zito and his fine. Thank you. Connor just stocked himself into a $50 fine, which is awesome. So two members of the pub have been fined already. That's beautiful. We've had an active couple days here, an active last couple days. We, if you haven't heard, have suspended all my bookie ads indefinitely.

And by we, I mean me. It was a decision I had to make due to something that happened on the Internet two days ago between Dave Portnoy of barstool sports and anonymous gambler uh who was the head odds maker at my bookie basically when push came to shove anonymous gambler took a couple shots at dave portnoy unannounced i think right they were kind of unannounced shots if i get the whole thing right yeah pretty much they were and then dave ended up exposing a flaw potentially in the mybookie.ag payout system, which I was unaware of. I did not know that the rollover and the payouts for people have been a problem for a while. So I decided as it escalated that I do trust.

In my statement, I said I trust Dave's judgment in these particular situations, business situations, because Dave has built a company up to a $100 million valuation for a reason. I got a chance to work there. We all got a chance to work there and learn from there. So whenever Dave was raising concerns, I very much was like, well, I should probably look into this as well. And I think I've proven on many occasion that cash does not control me. Like that is not the way things go. I mean, I literally, I walked out of a situation that I was owed $6 million or could have earned $6 million just because I wasn't loving it anymore. I've done that on numerous occasions with numerous things. Cash will not be the thing that controls my decision-making.

And in this particular situation, I would like to investigate a little bit more to make sure people that are listeners of this show are being taken care of in a proper fashion by sponsors of this show. That is our duty as a show. Podcasts are much different than radio ads, right? And radio ads, they just kind of pop in in between talking and then they pop out. With podcasts though, we have a real relationship with our listeners. We tweet with each other. We spend time with each other. We sell merch together. We are a real team and it is our job to make sure that the team is getting taken care of by the people that are supposed to be taking care of them. I'm not sure if they are or if they're not. I just want to dive deeper into it. And after this Dave and my bookie thing really blew up,

I was getting a lot of tweets from people that were not happy exactly with the way they were treated. I got a few saying, hey, there was no problem at all, but I think it's only right that we dive a little bit deeper into it and see what we can do to make sure our listeners are getting taken care of in the most hospitable fashion by these companies. And honestly, I don't think it's that huge of a decision. There was the big lead wrote an article about it and all this stuff. I just think this is what should be expected by people who have a little bit of a responsibility

to their listeners. We are very lucky that you guys listened to us, very thankful. And I'm gonna make sure that whatever discounts and deals that you're supposed to get, you get and you get taken care of well. And that's the way this whole thing works. And until then, we'll just keep it moving, have a good time. And if you're going to gamble,

I respect that. You just got to figure out where you're going to gamble. So we figure it all out. I'm kind of happy though it all happened because I should have dove into this deeper at the beginning. I think this is a lesson that I will learn going forward with running our business, with ideas and concepts and businesses that come in. Let's make sure that it's all exactly how it is. SeatGeek, by the way. Yeah. OG sponsor of our show.

I get plenty of people saying, hey, incredible experience with SeatGeek. We keep it moving. If you're listening and you utilize a business of ours and it's not doing well, I would like for you to tweet us, tweet me. I might've seen a couple of people say like my book is screwing me or whatever, but I always thought it was a Todd versus tech issue. I didn't know it was. When you only see a few, you're like, it might be the user. Yes. But if you're having a real problem, I think you should DM Heartland Radio on Instagram. That is being checked daily by Nick, by other people. Send a message and we're going to figure it out. We'll get to the bottom of it because we're in this goddamn thing

together. That's the way it goes. If you're a company that's going to get on board with us, we appreciate the hell out of you. You're the people that keep the lights on, but also let's make sure we're not fucking people over. Let's make sure we're not fucking people over. We're all a big family. And not saying that my bookie was. There might have been just some

bad situations that got exposed to the light yesterday, but I would like to find out for sure. And if you make a nut bar, make sure you taste good before you discuss. To tell people it tastes good. That goes back to a situation where I could say the cash does not control me. That is just not the way I operate.

For the record, Todd, you're the only one who didn't like those. We had a sales guy who was a good guy here. Good guy. Great guy. Good guy. We all liked him as a person, but his first

real cell was with this nut bar company. And he came up to me with this nut. Whoa, whoa, whoa. He shot this nut. This bar though. He came up to me with this bar and I took one bite out of it and I was like... Spit it out. I spit it out. I spit it right into a trash can. I said, this thing's terrible it and i was like uh this spit it out i spit it out i spit it right into a trash can i said this thing's terrible and he was like pat come on man i just signed these games

you could just do a couple swipe ups i mean they got big pockets so uh i go i go to the prints out the thing he wants me to read for it and the read for it is basically like how good it tastes, how everybody that I know loves it basically over the top. And I, I spit it out and I told him I would like to give them their money back. I do not want to do this promotion. So I would like to let you all know that honestly, that means a lot to us. Whenever a company gets involved with us, it's a big deal, but taking care of people is something that helps us all sleep better at night. I mean, that's just the way it goes. We're all a big team. We're all a big family.

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to jump in bed with. We appreciate them for sponsoring the show and making our lives feel better. Now back to the show. Magic Johnson just says, I'm out. Out of nowhere. In the wildest way imaginable. Incredible. Imagine if one of us quit here and we didn't tell you,

but we somehow just did it in front of a camera crew or something, and then that's how you found out. Yeah, so how did it actually go down? I seen the backlash. I don't think I saw the actual thing because I passed out, but what was the exact moment? Instead of going to the organization and telling Jeannie Buss that he was leaving, he literally just did an interview.

Didn't talk to anybody in PR, too, by the way. No, no. He just came out. So he Vontade this thing. Yeah. He mentioned it to LeBron, actually, the day before, just saying like, hey, pointing out that he might be out on this whole basketball operations thing.

Because he wasn't scouting players. His office hours were bad. He was rarely rarely there he wasn't really buying into actually but he was still getting blamed for a lot of things happening so magic was probably like man i'm getting a lot of blame for a lot of shit happening and i'm not even really a part of this he also said part of the reason why he was quitting because it it was troublesome for him when russ westbrook went for 2020 and he wasn't allowed to congratulate him because he was part of another team. Magic can't be magic.

Magic's like a billionaire too, right? So he is also not cash controlled at this point. That ability to be a relatable figure in the sport that you dominated, by the way, is one that I feel like he probably takes a lot of pride in. Like Shaq and Charles, right?

They have open mic, and Kenny, open mic every night to talk about everything, compliment whoever. Magic also, a personality in the NBA world, isn't allowed to talk about anything outside of the Lakers. And if the Lakers aren't really that topical of a team, I bet you Magic Johnson felt like he was imprisoned almost by this thing. Like, I can't even talk about the good players because I'm with this fucking shitty team over here. That's probably a real problem for them. We went all the way down to the squabble

over who should become the new athletic trainer a year ago or whatever. And then the guy he didn't want, the younger person, got it. And they had the second highest team with minutes out due to injury. He also said he didn't want Luke Walton anymore,

and Jeannie Buss doesn't want to keep Luke Walton. When did he take that job? Two years ago. He's the one that got LeBron out there, right? Yes. Pretty much. Well, yeah. LeBron got LeBron out there.

Well, LeBron was going to go to New York, right? He was going to go to New York, Chicago, or L.A. That was the big thing. Magic was pretty instrumental in bringing him to L.A. So then he goes to LA because Magic brings him there and then Magic and LeBron both realize, well this is not what we signed up for. This is not what we signed

up for at all. I thought we were going to be able to get another big star. We couldn't. Now we got this shit butt team and now we have I can't even pick the athletic trainers. I bet you Magic Johnson was sick of that with the quickness. They said one of the rumors was too that he wanted the GM fired, and she wasn't having it.

So that was like his last straw. He's like, all right, fuck it, I'm done then. So Magic Johnson was brought in to do basketball operations, but he wasn't allowed to operate basketball at all. So in his mind, he was like, this is not what I signed up for. I'm doing exactly what you guys don't want me to do. I'm just going to go elsewhere and kind of do my thing. Where's he going to get on TV at, you think?

I don't think he's going to be on TV. I don't think he's good on TV. If I remember correctly, he was terrible on Twitter. He had his own late night talk show once. For three weeks or something. It was the worst thing. Really? If I remember correctly, he's not great in front of a camera.

Well, he's also like part owner of the Dodgers. I could see him just sitting in boxes at those games. I think he just wants to live. He just wants to live and not be associated with the bad Lakers, only the good Lakers. Correct. He might come back after this offseason, depending on what they get. I have a theory.

Rob Palenka is the GM you're talking about, and I think he was motherfucking Irvin Magic Johnson behind his back to Jeannie Buss because Irvin wasn't there as much. I mean, you've got to, you know, that's a... We watched that happen, by the way. Yeah, sure. We watched that type of situation happen. Absolutely.

Whenever your only source of information could possibly be not great person of information, then all of a sudden there's a bit of a conflict of interest from outside sources. Well, it sounds like they brought him in just to lure LeBron there and then didn't give him any real responsibility or any real purpose, and he got sick of it. And he's kind of held down.

He's a guy who's been very successful business wise. He probably started drinking. He wants to be at... By the way, shout out to the Lakers. In the arena, he started walking in drinking wine. Shout out to the Lakers for being really... Not Magic, no. LeBron. Shout out to the Lakers for being like 10 times better after LeBron

said he wasn't playing another game for the season. That is funny. I haven't really paid attention. They've been about a thousand times better. Yeah. It's like they're having a good time. They're like, yeah,

this is fun. They're like playing LA Fitness pickup basketball. Yeah, man. Yeah, we all know none of this matters. The basketball operation, you gotta just quit

on fucking TMZ. But like, just the way that he quit was wild. Not telling someone who he said is like a sister to him. His reasoning was he said if he tried telling her first, she would have talked him out of it.

So he did it this way instead. Well, you know what? Sometimes whenever you speak things, right, you can't backpedal. Yes. So that was probably a situation where he's like, I've made up my mind. I'm going to go with it. I don't want to get talked out of it.

Now, granted, could have done it better probably but good for magic johnson getting his fucking head clear and just going to have a good time good one bad thing about that though because i'm a magic johnson guy he should he's royalty as far as i'm concerned it doesn't get any higher isaiah magic larry bird everything like royalty but to do that press conference or impromptu press conference on the night that Dirk and Dwayne Wade were retiring, I can't believe he did that because I thought he would see, you know, he sees a big picture of stuff. Yeah, as a former player especially

it's like that. Exactly. I couldn't believe it. Yeah. You know, wait a day or whatever. I think that is very interesting as well because I didn't know Dirk was retiring. Did everybody else know? It was rumored. It was thought of, but he didn't know dirk was retired did everybody else oh yeah um it was it was rumored it was thought of but he didn't do it he didn't announce it until after the game was over yeah he didn't do like the duane wade derrick jeter one last one but they did tour stuff when he would go

to visiting cities they would you know get a wheelchair or you know give him a rocking chair and stuff they put him in the all-star game too just because they knew he was oh so this has been known for a while that dirk is leaving and duane wade also won out that budweiser this buds for three commercial is pretty cool choke you up i mean i enjoy whenever the greats decide it's their time to step away you know what i mean i enjoy that that aspect of it because it's not an easy decision your entire life revolves around something and then you're deciding to step away. I think the modern world now makes it a lot easier with technology and social media and social platforms and the opportunities to do things outside the game where you can make a good amount of money. I'm sure Dirk, if he wants to make whatever amount

of money he wants to make, he'll be able to do business-wise with Mark Cuban. I assume they'll tag team together on a couple of things. I assume financially they'll be okay, but losing your love in your lifeline is a tough thing to come to grips with. And I think Dwayne Wade has been open about going to counseling, about his transitioning and stuff like that. I'll be excited to see how it goes, but shout out to them going out on their own terms, man, and doing the speeches and the whole thing. Going out on top is a very, very cool thing. It was really cool. So last night was the night that they both went off for 30 points. It was both of their last home games, or two nights ago,

and then last night was their last game. And they shot every time they got the ball, which I love. At this point, we don't know how last night went, their official last games. But the cool part was each home game, they both scored 30 points. They both went out on top. They both went out winners. They both gave speeches. Dwayne Wade had a hilarious tweet that he knew it was just justification

that it was time to go because he hurt his knee jumping up onto the scorer's table at the end of the game. It was cool to see. Well, Dwayne Wade should have known that it was a right call whenever What's-Her-Face was beating him on the treadmill. You don't like that commercial. He's fucking Dwayne. He's Dwayne Wade.

I get it. He's married to the lady, but come on. I mean, he's Dwayne Wade. I mean, we put over his wife. I get it. She's a good actor, though. We're seeing the end of a real war era of players, though. I think Vince is like the last

vince has to be by the way vince was from the era before this one both of these vince was from the era before this one the tracy mcgrady era that whole era back then he's from that era and he's just outlasted this one he's because what is he 41 42 i think and he can still do it, right? He's still playing both ways, dunking and things like that. Vince Carter, OG of the whole thing. You're right, though. Magic Johnson's stealing that shine with an impromptu press conference.

You wouldn't think that. That's beneath him. And if you asked me beforehand, I'd say no chance he would do that to these two great all-time all-stars. But, yeah, it happened. I was like, ooh, boy. Because everybody said, fuck the games. We're locked in on listening to Magic.

Well, it's just like when Kobe's last game, he shot the ball 80 times. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Who knows last night how much Dirk and I bet you Dwayne Wade probably took 50 shots. Maybe. I would, by the way. I'd throw that one at him. Dirk was crying on the court because they played a highlight reel, tribute video above, and that was really cool. Sports can bring something out of you that nothing else really can.

I mean, granted, movies can make you cry. You don't really ride or die with people and organizations as much as you do sports because there's such an inspirational feeling to your city going to battle against another city in something. And I think that type of fanhood and ownership could become a little bit less significant as fantasy sports decide to take over but the attachment that people get to athletes because they feel as if they're representing them and taking on other challenges is such a beautiful thing and that's why sports are the greatest thing ever invented of all time. Of all time, sports are the greatest thing.

Because it's back in the day, I guess, the gladiators were the original sport. Yeah. The original athletes. Still the greatest. That was the sport. By the way, still riding and dying with your favorite gladiator. Exactly. Literally.

We've gotten a little bit soft on the punishment for losing, but I still feel as if that type of emotion is a real thing. I'm not a Dwayne Wade fan by any means at all. I mean, I was a Miami Heat fan there for a little bit whenever LeBron Brown went down there, but I'm not a Dwayne Wade fan. I like what he does.

I respect him, but I'm not like, oh, Dwayne Wade's my guy. But then you watch those people that he helped in that Budweiser thing and you're like this is somebody who did it fucking right man this is a good guy and i'm very very thankful for uh what he did not only for his community but for the nba in general and i'm excited to watch zion just take that motherfucker just take that whole thing over jeff gorman zion williamson just it over. You know the man you're comparing him to went to how many championships, how many championship game seasons in a row has LeBron? Listen to what I'm saying.

Eight, seven, eight. We're trying. We are trying. I've struggled today, man. I've had a bad day. I really have. But you're talking about comparing him to this. Do you know how hard it is to win a division title in the NBA,

let alone go to the championship game for seven, eight years in a row? You're saying Zion's on that same thing. I'm not saying he's not going to be. Just don't crown him. Sorry, Dennis Green, but just don't crown him. I think he's going to be a guy that's going to bring electricity to the NBA. He's a pumped- up Julius Randle. It's easy for the old NBA to leave because they're looking down at Zion like,

you know, next year I'm going to be pretty old. And if that guy's going to be dunking on me, I don't think I want to be here for it. This guy's hitting his head off the backboard. Every single trip down the court, basically. And Dwayne Wade heard himself jumping up on the scorer's table. He's probably like, man, I'm going to go ahead. And Dwayne Wade has a good personality too, I think, right? Oh, yeah. down the court basically and duane wade heard himself jumping up on the scorer's table he's probably like man i'm gonna go ahead and i bet duane wade has a good personality too i think right oh yeah he's probably going to be on that tnt show i assume they bring him in there and

that's going to be beautiful i the nba does it right off the court yeah for sure they do it right off the court they do it right on the court um it would be nice if the nfl acted a little bit more they celebrate personalities very well. Yes. They let each individual shine on their own. I like it. When I was talking to the Spotify people, the lady, she was a very nice lady. We talked about this on Tuesday, right?

Yep. Very nice lady, very good conversation. She said she's been trying to dive into Spotify sports. They're trying to find somebody to run a Spotify sports. And she said talking to the football world, she said it's something like she could have never guessed. It's these, this is how it works. This is how it goes.

This is how it's going to be. And this is what you got to do, basically. She was like, she could have never guessed. As an outsider where she came from the entertainment world, she could have never guessed it. I was like, oh yeah, I was hated. I was hated in the nfl i started the story of uh the colts cutting me out of a promo picture yeah and she just she she

lost her mind and that's what she was like yeah that makes so much sense because i've been doing this this and this i'm like yeah they actually cut me out of a photo yeah and i told yeah they cut me out of a photo it was awesome that's nuts's nuts. It was awesome. Hate the Colts. Me, sorry. No, no. Me personally. I think the Colts are in a great spot right now. I think there was a couple years that were very much questionable. I think there were some decisions being made which way the team was going to go. There was a lot of things happening from front office and ownership all the way down to football side. There was a lot of things happening and moving pieces at the same time.

I think they've gotten it back right, but there was a time there where I used to go up to Gorman, I'm like, why do these motherfuckers hate me, man? Gorman's like, I don't even know what you're talking about. I'm like, Gorman, they just cut me out of a fucking photo. They literally just cut me out of a promotional photo. And Gorman was like, I don't know what to say there, bud. I don't know what to say. When you say promotional photo, do you mean like it goes on Jumbotron

during the game? No, it was like they had an entire series where it was like one. Your number, too. Yeah, it was my number, exactly. So they were like, we are one. It was some one horseshoe or one something, right? That was the big deal. And I guess a part of it was they didn't want me to be directly correlated

with the one promotion. So every time we would walk out on the field before a game, it'd be like Matt Overton to my right, and then me in the middle, and then Vinatieri to my left. It was every time we walked out. And it was mostly because I'm the talkative one, so I was just like, I would keep people late. So then in that promotional video where they launched that,

they had a photo where it was just Overton and Vinatieri walking next to each other, right? And it was very obvious. I was like, you guys cut me. You literally cut me right out of the photo. You just cut me out of the photo and then just put the photo together. And I was like, am I cut?

Like, am I literally, am I? It was just like a sign that I was getting cut from the team. They're like, oh no, it was just a photo that you weren't in. I was like, well, I don't know. Did I miss the game? Who was that?

They were clearly going out for the game right there. It was just a weird thing. And it was real, though. And I think the NFL, though, is coming around. You know, I think they're coming around. I think so. They have to, though, right? I don't know.

I don't know. Matt, let's clarify. Yeah. No problem with the ownership of the Colts. It's a few PR people, public relations people, and community relations and marketing people that there are issues with that I fully agree going back years that absolutely they were in over there. I respect Jim Mercer a lot.

I respect Jim Mercer a lot. I like the way he handles his shit. You know what I mean? I like Jim Mercer. He was nothing but nice to me. But there was a couple years there where I was just like, man, what is going on here? What is happening here? Because I tweet?

Is it because I tweet? It's because I tweet. There was also a general manager with an ego issue that came into play there. Hey, we're past that. We're past that. I'm not. I'm not. We are past that.

Okay, so I went on to the IG story, used a little question thing, and I said, hey, if you have some questions for the podcast, I'd like to answer them. Oh, yeah. Make them good questions, though. You know what I mean? Yeah, don't bring the baloney. Got over 1,000 questions.

Oh, boy. Very, very thankful for everybody that asked their questions. A lot of questions about our comedy tour. That announcement is going to be coming soon. the podcast is going to be going on tour i think we got six stops coming up in the month of june a little summer tour we will be announcing that let's go i won't give away any cities that are in them but they're our biggest markets so that should be a good time that is coming a lot of those questions though i can't wait to see all of you we can't wait to party with you and if we come to your city please get a ticket we'll enjoy the hell out of it record a podcast we'll have a special guest we'll tell some stories we'll drink

some brew haha and we'll have a great time with it um a lot of people ask me about the little five this friday we are going down there the boys and i are going down with natural light and natter days we will be roaming around bloomington this is my first little five i've heard it's incredible i've heard it's a day that i'll never forget i cannot wait to experience it i can't wait to get down there if you see us come say what's up but also know that we're trying to have a good time as well so let's let's do this together let's have a good time down there in bloomington indiana I believe we'll be at Kilroy's at some point down there

I believe we'll be at a Big Red Liquor Store at some point down there I think at 1230 we're at the Big Red Liquor Store that's the only thing that is locked in and then I think we go Kilroy's somewhere else somewhere else and then the races so I'm pretty excited to get down I've been here for 10 years I've never been I've heard

nothing but great things. The boys and I are hopping on a bus and going down. Should be a good time. Should be a great time. Quiet spectacle. We're going down there with natural light, too. So I assume they're going to bring some good times. Oh, yeah.

I would say so. Let's get to these questions. At Ian underscore P underscore 2019, what do we think his last name is? Pencil. Petriclus. Okay. Petriclus. Okay. Petriclus. Ian Pencil, says Zito, asks,

why did you decide to be a punter and not a kicker? I didn't decide that. I did not decide that. Bill Polian decided that whenever he drafted me to be a punter. There was plenty of conversations with the guy who was my agent before the draft where I actually told him that if I was drafted to punt, I'm not going to do it because I didn't want to punt at all. I wanted to kick field goals.

There was a little bit of a rumor that got caught by my people that told me that the Colts were interested in me being a punter. There was like four or five other teams that were interested in me being a kicker, the Dallas Cowboys being one of them. I played in the Senior Bowl as a field goal kicker. Hindsight, I was nowhere near good enough to be a kicker in the NFL at the time. After working with Vinatieri for like six, seven, eight years, I feel like I'm really fucking good now.

I would not rule out a potential field goal kicking career at some point. I would not rule that out. If I was to ever come back to the nfl it would be to kick field goals okay i don't have much many other mountains to climb in the punting world but if it was to ever happen it would be to kick field goals and uh if only like half the teams in the league needed a field goal kicker a lot of teams have reached out to me after a video was posted of me destroying a couple of footballs. I'm not sure I'm ready yet.

I'm not sure I'm ready yet. I'm not certain that I, I want to revolve my life around kicking footballs again, but a very close friend of mine is still kicking and he's like 50 years old. So that gives me a lot of hope for the future. Yeah. If anything happens, I don't know. We'll see. I'm having a lot of fun kicking footballs again though. I would like that to be known. For two years there after I retired, I didn't want to kick because I didn't want to get the itch to go back because I didn't want people to think that

I'd failed post-retirement. I didn't want any of that to happen. I didn't want to get the itch to go back. I have an entire business of people I got to take care of now. But once I started kicking balls again, I was like, man, I miss doing this. Specifically because there's, I don't know if there's anybody on earth that can do what I can do with a football on a field. And I enjoy the fuck out of it. I'm sure there's people that can punt like me. And I'm sure there's a couple people that can kick field goals like me. And I'm sure there's some people that can kick off like me.

But there ain't a one motherfucker that can do all of them like me. I know that. No, I'm joking. It's real. At George Rizzy. Jorge. G-E-O-R-G-E-R-I-Z-Z-I-E asks, in the barn of bad decisions, which is the absolute

worst decision? It's a pretty simple one for me. No. No. I don't think the wrestling ring is the worst one. You've used it more than anything. I've used that a lot. There's a chopper in there that has a leaky oil thing. A motorcycle that I

bought off the side of the road when I didn't know how to ride a motorcycle yet. That was a bad decision for sure I think it would have to be the aquatic vehicle the aquatic vehicle is the worst decision the thing can't float it's not aquatic it's just an eight wheeled vehicle

were you trying to put it in water before? oh yeah Tim actually put that thing right in the bottom of my pond in my last house went right in fucking forged the river Tim actually put that thing right in the bottom of my pond in my last house. Went right in, fucking forged the river, and that thing went right down the damn bottom of the pond. Had to drag it out. It's a rough situation, man. That's definitely the worst.

I'm sure there was something we did wrong, but it's just an uncomfortable thing. If it could float and I was a fisherman, maybe it's awesome. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe it's awesome. It. Maybe. Maybe it's awesome. It's a huge fisherman vehicle. That thing's tough, dude. That thing's tough.

Here's a question from Matt Swarley, 2002. S-W-A-R-L-E-Y, 2002. He's pretty new to the podcast. Oh, nice. He asks, we feeling the burn 2020 for Bernie Sanders? I would like everybody that's listening know that i fucking hate bernie at one point he was attempting to tax me 90 of my money and i just immediately realized that i hate that so i'm sure he does a lot of great things uh but i'm hoping he

doesn't win that's what i'm hoping you two's you know how you billionaire shit at jve leas what advice do you have for someone who isn't sure college is right for them i tell you don't go yeah unless you're going to be a doctor lawyer or some other professional thing science that requires it a nurse that requires it if you're going to be anything else, I honestly believe veterinarian, maybe a veterinarian for sure. Astronaut? An animal doctor. Yeah, if you're going to be an astronaut.

Yeah, something that requires. I would assume the astronauts aren't sending me questions, but I mean, maybe. Never know. Someone who's not sure about college, probably not an astronaut. But I think I've been on a pretty anti-college stand

for a long time, way before it became cool to do this. And mostly because my friends were taking classes when they couldn't just travel the world with me when I had a bunch of money. So I hated the college initially because they were taking my friends' time. Like, hey, guys, I want to go to Morocco.

You guys want to come with me? They're like, oh, we got class tomorrow. I'm like, I fucking hate this. What are you doing in that classroom? And then what it does is it teaches you a lot about how to live your life, right? You're free from your family. You're partying. You're learning about friendships and networking.

And are the classes that important? Maybe. You're going to forget a lot of it by the time you get out of there. So I think college does have a purpose. But if you can't afford $80,000 to $100,000 of debt, if your family is not financially set up to take care of that forever, I think you're very much wasting your time in there and setting yourself up for a massive failure. And if you don't want to go to college, but you still want to have the college experience, just go sleep on

your friend's couches that are going to be $100,000 in debt. You're just living the college life with no debt. And at the end of it, do people really hire you strictly off of having a college degree nowadays? Nope. That is not the case at all, I don't think. So if you're currently thinking about not going, I'm here to tell you to play 60, eat a lot of veggies, eat importance, and don't go to college. I don't think there's any purpose for it. Unless you're going to be something that you need a degree for. But you shouldn't think you can't succeed at life and have a good-paying job

and take care of a family if you don't have a college degree. Exactly. It's not the case. I think that message got kind of spun into the entire college thing, where, well, if you don't go to college, you're going to be homeless. That's the way it's going to be. That was the pitch to me. Yeah, exactly.

I don't think that's the case anymore. I think it's very different. For Connor, that might have been the case. It was definitely the case. Connor, see, I think you could get a good job at McDonald's or something. I think you would have been great there. Talking to a lot of people, yelling. Worked your way up.

I would have needed a lot of cigarette breaks. Wouldn't need the intercom. You would have been an incredible custodian i would have been an unbelievable custodian but what i'm saying with the way the world's set up now there's a lot of money out there to go get a lot of money out there to go get even if you if you have a little bit of marketing experience or ability on the internet you can cut grass for probably 10 people if you just post a couple pictures on your facebook saying hey i'm looking to do this will you get broken off your first couple years no no business you do but as you stick at it you pick up more yards you pick up more uh lawnmowers you kind of do your own thing and you don't have the 80 to 100 000 in debt kicking your dick in every month which is currently

happening to everybody you know that just got out of college i don't know if they complain about it all the time on their life, on their social medias. They do. And they should, by the way. I would not be happy about it either. But I think if you're thinking about it, you probably already thought not. It's really that important, too.

You can go back in 20 years and get a degree online for a tenth of the price. University of Phoenix. Thank you. Yep, definitely. Larry Fitzgerald went back and got his degree. Yeah, he got his master's in photography. He really did.

Good for him, man. He's not using that degree. How much do you think I got to pay to get a doctorate? A couple hundred. A couple hundred. Yeah, probably a couple hundo. To who? No, just do it online.

Grab somebody you know. Say, hey, take these courses for me. Throw my name on it. You know, it costs you six grand. So that house that Jay lives in up in the front there, I was going to turn that into a little workshop for people to get me a degree. Just like

six kids. Just a bunch of computers. You're doing freshman course. You're doing sophomore. You're doing junior. We're doing senior. We're just getting out of here. A couple months, I think I'll become a doctorate. Easy. I don't want to scam the game, i'd like to earn it i'm not scared to earn something but i'm also never going to go back to school hopefully dr mcafee would be cool wouldn't

it be really cool i watched dr philip once about i'm like would be cool to have that dr i mean you could just do it well i think i would just procreate if you want to be a doctor you have to take the steps that a lot would you change up your signature yeah well doc i would just be doc really yeah i would change my name right to doc immediately my kid's gonna be named doctor we got a doctor in the family don't need another one if you're thinking about not going to college you can take some time and figure it out and by the way if you decide to go about your own thing and kind of try to create your own path and you fall flat on your face, then maybe you're like, you know what? Now it's time to go get $100,000

worth of debt and see if this school can help me. I don't think college is the only answer to success anymore. And I think we live in a good society because of that. Correct. Todd made his kid quit. Yeah. Smart. It's too fucking expensive. Especially if you're doing what we're doing, video editing, content, anything.

You do not need a degree. I was going for free. Yeah, my kid was going for free, but still. It was a goddamn principle. For other people, it's expensive. But, Foxy, you say that strictly because you learn what you have to do literally daily. Like, things change each day, right? There's no way that school can guess.

Literally daily. Like things change each day, right? There's no way that school can guess. Also, like when I went in college, it's not like Michigan State helped me, you know, learn what I did. I was shooting weddings. I was working for small businesses, doing all that shit. So I was doing it on my own. And then I was just going to class because my parents didn't go to college. So they're like, you have to go to college.

Your profession is much different than a lot, though. You can learn everything I do on the Internet, on but i feel like everybody plus you who's he on but thank you uh i feel like a lot of people want to get into the social media yeah right because everybody can be their own business on the internet and to do that i don't think you have to go to production school no no no no no because we have watched people try to make internet content who have been to production school yep and the only thing we see is wasted dollars i promise you they're 20 years behind they are 20 years behind can we just think about just like taking the cash out from that department and just giving it to us can we just instead of all of that can we just do

it just by by ourselves unbelievable it is it is day, though, we'll just start hiring like 45 people to do something for one shot. Hilarious. You know what I mean? Yes. That'd be nice. We need two lighting people, a sound person, two camera people. Also, we need a PA. Is that what they're called? We need two PAs. And also, somebody bring me my coffee, please. Nine person

shoot. What if lights don't turn on? It's like, oh, what's his name? Didn't show up today. We'll wait. We'll wait until he gets here. What are we shooting today? Oh, swipe up. That's on. It's like, oh, what's his name? Didn't show up today. We'll wait. We'll wait until he gets here. What are we shooting today? Oh, swipe up. That's literally what it's like. It's absurd. I think we're in a hustler's paradise.

I think that's the world we live in now. If you want to go get it, you can go get it. You don't have to go in debt to do it. But it is important to some people, so I respect it. But if you're going to be a doctor, please go get a degree because we're going to need you at some point. We've got a guy who scalps RVs driving for us. I'm going to throw a pilot in there too.

Oh, no. You heard these pilots are getting degrees overseas and then they're coming over not prepared and just crashing motherfucking planes. Don't love that. Don't love that. Hey, when we landed from New York, we hit the ground. Boom. 20 feet into the air. Boom. Then we landed. What happened? I don't know. It was the ground. Boom. 20 feet into the air. Boom.

Then we landed. What happened? I don't know. It was the worst landing I've ever experienced. Have you seen that video where the guy comes in for the landing, bounces, and then they just go fucking right back into takeoff? I thought we were going to have to land in Columbus. A little touch and go.

That happened to me, Chuck Costanzo, DeQuaulx Jackson, and Mike Adams, Matt Conte from the Colts in Japan. And we're landing in Japan. And we go down. And I think I told this story before. On these Japanese planes, they have screens that are very high tech. It's very nice. And the only thing that I could understand,

because the Japanese language is very different than ours. I can't stress enough how different the Japanese language is than ours. The only thing I could see is the amount of feet we were at, so the numbers were the same. So we were flying at like 35,000. I'm like, okay, so you're trying to piece it together. Like that one's ours right there, right? We couldn't listen to anything.

Was it in meters? No, I think it was in feet. I honestly think it might have been in feet. So it might have been in meters. I don't know, but it was a big number. It made sense to me, though, that that was how high we were above sea level. And it was like a two-and-a-half, three-hour flight. It was a long flight.

Every announcement is in Japanese. The flight attendants did not speak English. They did not like us. They told us to shush two times. Me and Chuck Pagano got shushed because we were laughing. It was like, oh, my God, we're in a bad spot. We were told, hey, as soon as we land here, don't go many places. We're not loved.

Just kind of stay together. It was an interesting situation for sure. So we're sitting on this plane and the numbers start dropping. I'm like, oh, I guess we're going in for landing. Announcement was, I guess we're going in for landing. This is awesome. And it's at like, whatever, 20,000, 15,000, 10 000 15 000 10 000 5 000 it's very cloudy very very cloudy so you can't see anything it gets down it's at like 5 000 4 000 3 000 2 000 you still can't see anything

1 000 and it gets down low and then it's then all of a sudden it's really and then all we just feel a womb you just see like uh two thousand three thousand four thousand the numbers just go back up like a fucking ticker all the way back up to thirty thousand and then an announcement is made like whatever it is and nobody is making a single sound me and chuck look at each other what the fuck is going on what is going on here and then there was a japanese man on there who spoke english He was like, they just said it got a little gusty down there. We're going to go back in for another round. I'm like, oh, great.

This is how it ends. This is how it ends right now on a plane that I can't even be told that I'm dying. I'm going to die. We went back in for round two and we landed that thing. It was an insane experience, though. Just watching those numbers go all the way down, almost like 200. And then right back up. I'm like, oh, my God.

They made an announcement. Nobody said a single word. The Americans on there, we were the only ones scared shitless. Everybody else was just looking at us like we were a bunch of fucking soft asses. I'm like, oh, my God, is this normal? Williams died. The lady gave us a shh. Chuck and I were laughing about something. I'm like, yeah, she's died. The lady gave us a... Chuck and I were laughing about something.

I'm like, and Chuck, and I'm like, oh my God. And Chuck like joked with her. Like he thought he was joking. He pointed at the person in front of him and he was like,

yeah, I know he won't stop. And the lady's like, no. Holy, you really don't want us to talk. Got it. We'll shut the fuck up. I have a question, lady. I just watched those numbers go down and my fucking stomach just came up.

Are we going up? It was wild. Wild scene. Plane travel could scare you. Oh, yeah. Hate it. The worst. Especially in that situation where no one on the staff or the crew speaks English because

something goes wrong. We are nothing. You want to know what in the fuck they're saying i wish though that there would be some website that would show you all the successful landings oh yeah you know like a website that just reassuring every plane that took off in every plane that landed successfully because the only things you hear about correct are the bad ones the only movies that are made are about the bad situations that end up good there's never any like here's a movie about a successful flight. There's nothing, which, by the way, majority of my flights have been.

And that's like what I always tell myself when I'm walking on a plane. Like, thousands of these things go on every day. It's so routine. You don't even got to talk about it or think about it unless it goes bad. And then you get on there and then all of a sudden you feel the thing. You're like, these things do go down. Hey, is this the one that's gonna go down and then all of a sudden you land again you're like oh i was so stupid for even thinking talk to your bird before you get to the nest man

oh yeah i know you patting that thing on the side is hilarious i did it on my trip out of new york good she does her job i'll do mine i was so tired and i got on late i was um i got in during like zone five was loading and um i'm sitting in the front and i padded the thing and somebody was already sitting in my seat oh so it was like some friend that saw the thing get open i was like the second to last person on there they were sitting in the back of the plane they were sitting in my seat so i did like the full plane thing because i was so tired and slap happy. I was like, all right, here we go. I'm almost home from a 10-day trip.

Let's get home, right? And the flight attendant's like, you can't bring that bag in here. I had my carry-on. I'm like, yeah, I'll just put it under my seat or above or whatever. She's like, oh, the upper bins are full. I was like, in the front? She was like, oh, no, they're filled. They're like, yeah, thank you, lady.

Thanks, I understand. And then I get there and somebody's in my seat and i'm like oh no this conversation has to happen and as soon as i look the person goes nope i'm not supposed to be here i like give a fist bump i'm like thank you so much and uh kind of off we go me dressing in jorts gets me in some bad spots these people respect dude it does hey whatever happened to not judging a book by it's cover seriously went out the window a long time golden rule

couple books did some bad shit like for instance the Zito Conner book did some bad shit that's why the RV rental lady didn't want to give the keys over and look what happened. That book, the pages, we read right through those things, and she was 100% ready.

There's two parts to it. The first part was good. The second part was good. Who knew that the end was going to be a tragedy? Good ending. I think everybody kind of guessed it. Yeah. That lady did.

She did from the get-go. Oh, yeah. She really should have held on to those keys. She really should have held on to those keys. Should have held on to those keys. You had to find them from her. We're not going to wreck this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you think we're going to do?

We got a chance to catch up with a guy who is near and dear to all of us. It was a 35-minute conversation about everything. I'm going to tell of us. And it was a 35-minute conversation about everything. And I'm going to tell you, I don't think a lot of people are that funny when it comes to professional athletics. I think there's a lot of people who are athlete funny.

I think there's a lot of people, and a lot of people describe me as that, which is cool with me. But I think there's levels to it. I would like to put myself up in the higher athlete funny thing. This next guy, I genuinely laugh right at his face on a very i think he is one of the funniest humans in existence he should not be where he's at right now he knows it we know it and we just get to enjoy it ladies and gentlemen you're gonna like this joining us now via satellite from the desert phoenix arizona he's a bald man he's a graduate from pennsylvania

state university he's been on 45 nfl teams he's been around the league twice and has come back many different times he was a special teams all-star where he led wedges all around the league for kickoff return teams. He was a fullback where he just dove headfirst into different piles and tried to clear the way. Now you will see him as the starting center for the Arizona Cardinals entering year 11 in the NFL. From Moontown Ship, Western Pennsylvania Interscholastic Athletic League Hall of Famer Alan Quay

A.Q. Shipley. And more importantly, co-host of that talky talk. Let's go! You are a professional podcaster good plug there that is rule number one of podcasting is plugging your podcast how has that's hockey talk been we

are in the nhl playoffs there was five games last night shout out to the penguins getting a big win last night i like uh every time the penguins start out want to know have you enjoyed doing that's hockey talk yeah we won thank you we won we won i love what's happening right now yeah winner winning i love it yeah it's been fantastic two good guys bunch of degenerates listening bunch of degenerates hosting can't beat it it's perfect i enjoy you getting into the podcasting world because i mean you're going to be a center in the nfl next year uh for another year you're going to be another successful professional football player but it's smart to think about post career every once in a while and you have a pretty average personality you

might as well spill that into a fucking microphone average personality equals average podcast and that's that's what i'm working for uh aq you are a part of the lucky batch of nfl teams that gets to start their off-season training early because you have a new head coach the arizona cardinals have already started their off-season um by the way volunteer volunteer workouts yeah aq i assume you're going? You're going in there because you're a volunteer? I'm a football guy. I mean, that's what football guys do. We go to football. Yeah, whenever you can go to football, you go to football.

How has it been with Cliff Kingsbury? How was his first team meeting? Did he really command the room? He's a child. How did it go? No, it's great. I mean, he's fantastic. He's got a ton of energy, keeps the meeting short, which I love.

He's straight to the point, in and out. He says what he's got to say and then, you know, break it up and get into your position rooms. And it's been fast moving. This first week is just, I mean, we've basically installed the whole offense. We've got quizzes every day. I mean, it's pretty good stuff and we're moving fast. He's getting crushed by the OGs of the football world for saying that there'll be cell phone breaks in meetings. I went on the record of saying this has been happening for a long time. It just wasn't deemed a cell phone break, even though that's what it was. It was a cell phone break, but it was just deemed a break, bathroom break, a five minute break, kind of a refresh reset uh has the team reacted well to cliff kingsbury and his style of coaching thus far these first couple days yeah i mean it's been

great and like you and i spoke about this and you you just mentioned it there it's like this has been going on forever it's just the fact that um because he used the term cell phone break it's like we we get an uproar like oh these meatheads should just do football 24 right like no guys we we need a break we have the uh attention span of a toddler so we do need our breaks and it ends up working out well it's just unfortunate that people people run with you know one word one word cliche answers that somebody says in a in an owner's meeting or whatever what is this message man what is it we're like we're gonna rebuild is it a reload we're just gonna do day by day what is cliff kingsbury a big

message there really is no message and i and i kind of appreciate that i there's no cliche i get weary of the cliche when you come in with a slogan, hard to trust you. He's been good. He just came in and just kind of went about it like, hey, this is day one. We're going to get to work, and that's it. There was no T-shirt made. There was no nothing. It was just kind of let's roll.

You told me that he's known as a grinder like a guy who just loves watching film and he loves being in the building i would have never guessed that and this is me judging a book strictly by the cover because he's attractive right so whenever you see like an attractive younger guy who seems to you see pictures of him having a good time i think that might for some people be a recipe to judge him as like oh this guy isn't a grinder he's not up early he's not staying late you said the complete opposite he's a grinder he's not up early he's not staying late you said the complete opposite he's a fucking he's in like he's relentless almost i'm telling you i mean from the from the you know i was i haven't missed a day because i've been there

every day for rehab and so i'm in there and go in the equipment room the training room i'm like hey you guys seen cliff like have you guys talked to him when this is right after he got hired and they're like oh yeah like everybody that has said anything about him is he's in there at 4 30 in the morning he's in his office breaking down tape rolling you know with football uh films from whether it's college whether it's free agents whether it's whatever i mean he just got to work that's incredible yeah you wouldn't think that that's good for arizona cardinals they got a guy hopefully hopefully you guys got a guy. I mean, you just went through quite a little phase there where you had a guy,

he wasn't a guy, got rid of the guy, and now here we are. There's a lot of questions. Here we are. Was Josh Rosen at these volunteer workouts? Yeah, he is. Actually, I mean, I'm sure you saw the report. He was the first one there on Monday, and whatever happens, I mean, you can't control it.

What's going on, guys? What do you mean? What's going on? No, that was me looking at the room going, how about that? I literally just gave a look to the room of how about that. I didn't expect it. How about that, right? That's the one thing.

Again, whatever's going to happen is going to happen. He's going about it the right way. If he's here, fantastic.'s going about it the right way and if he's here fantastic he's handling it the right way and if he's not like i will be the first one to say how professionally handled this whole situation and um nobody knows what's going to happen but again and who knows how he's gonna how what his mind's thinking but um i've been impressed so far in the way that he's handled it you You got to control the controllables. That's been the story of my life.

Speaking of controlling controllables, you and I are both from the city of Pittsburgh. And the city of Pittsburgh had a football team there for a while, professional football team for a while. That was a reality TV show. It was a reality TV show. There was more shit

happening off the field than on the field. And that is a true statement. Have you seen the most recent situations between the juju and the Antonio Brown via text message and Twitter and everything like that? I have. This is wild. Wild. This is wild.

Insanity, really. I mean, this is like a situation where you thought, like, these guys were, like, boys, right? Like, they're teammates. They're boys. You see this. And then, like. Celebrating together on the field.

Calling God together. Like, whichever God they're calling. Calling God together. It's like. And then it turns out. In a five-week span. Now, all of a sudden, we hate each other. Like, I'm so confused.

Very confused. This weighs. Not weighs. Yeah. five-week span now all of a sudden we hate each other like i'm so confused very confused this this this weighs not weighs yeah heavy in the favor of the yinzers who were saying that antonio brown was jealous of juju and they've been saying that this whole time i'm like no that's not the case antonio brown was hating how ben roethlisberger was throwing people under the bus he's actually a great teammate that's what i was saying this whole time then all all this thing comes out, and the Yenzers are like, no, we told you he was just jealous of Juju Diggs. Am I right? Yeah, yeah, that's 1,000%.

AB, he has not been the same since Perfect hit him a few years ago. He's just out of his mind. He doesn't know what he's doing. When he posted that picture of Juju asking for help as a college athlete to someone who's at the top of their game and thinking that made Juju look bad was just the icing on top of the cake for us. You think AB was happy that Juju started showing up and dancing in his pizza

commercials? No. You think he was happy about that? I don't know. I don't know. Even Lev called out better friends. Like he needs better friends. There's been plenty of times where I've wanted to react.

Oh, yeah. Quite like AB. And I send Pat a text and I say, hey, man, how's this sound? It sounds fantastic if you want to never speak to this guy again. Hey, that's a real thing, by the way. This is a true story. And so he needs more people like you in his life. That's all I'm saying.

Well, I'll tell you what. There's a couple times I should have probably asked around too before i did something i hope that gets all figured out lev bell and uh james connor uh explains he's like the best of friends yeah they really do and i think that for each other i think that's a cool thing though because that is something that doesn't get talked about a lot because in the nfl whenever you're training somebody who's younger than you or helping out somebody who's younger than you you're literally helping somebody that's going to replace your job right so some quarterbacks get buried for it like oh he's not going out of his way to help this younger quarterback it's like well there's a lot of money to be had here if that person gets better but then a majority though of

the ogs in the nfl they help out the people that are like T.Y. Hilton. Reggie Wayne and I, everybody knows, have not had many conversations with each other, but T.Y. Hilton will credit Reggie Wayne for why T.Y. Hilton is successful, for the way he looked out for him. And ultimately, at the end of Reggie Wayne's run with the Colts, having T.Y. Hilton may have been a reason

for why they didn't want or need Reggie back as well. Yeah, sure, yeah. So in the end, like there's so many stories where people are like, take somebody under their wing. Who's somebody that did that for you whenever you were younger? Who was an OG offensive lineman that was like, Hey, this is how you do things.

This is how you should act like that type of shit. Or who's somebody you watched and you're like, Oh, that's what I should be like. Yeah. I mean, I remember my room here and I, you know, the squad in Pittsburgh and, and I had a squad in Pittsburgh, and it had to have been Justin Hartwig,

who was the center there. Learned a ton from him, and then 2013, when my career started, kind of taking off, and I'm starting games now, and then Marshall Yonda when I was in Baltimore. I mean, those are two guys that I can think of that I leaned heavily on just for advice and whatnot. But going back to the whole replacing thing, I remember having this conversation with Kevin

Colbert for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm a rookie. I just finished my lift. I'm walking down the hall and it's like mid-season. It's like October. I'm on the practice squad. I'm on nothing at that point. And I'm like, hey, where are you going? He's like, I'm going to find your replacement. Hey, that's a red shirt year. What did he say to you? I'm so sorry. He goes, I'm going to find your replacement. That's what he said. Like, and he was literally going to scout, like to find them. I didn't expect it to be four months later, but I was doubt and I was moving on and there, there we are. But that that's the reality at the end of the day they're constantly looking for even if it's peyton manning right i mean they're constantly going to try and find that next guy

yep you're a piece of gum man as soon as your flavor runs out there's another piece of gum to put in there do you feel obligated to help out younger players whether they're offensive linemen or anybody uh just in general when because you've been around a long time, man. A decade plus in the NFL is nothing. Hey, ain't nothing to sneeze at. Hey, little round guy. Hey, little guy with a big belly, short arms there. Face looks thin. Yeah, I mean, I think you have to.

I mean, I think that's part of the shield. There's my cliche word you gotta you gotta kind of help out and you gotta kind of bring the young guys along but um you don't want to give them the keys to the car completely if that makes sense right you help them enough but yeah at the end of the day you don't want to you also want to keep your job so there's a fine line to walk there. I can completely understand that. I mean, you should see me talking to Zito. I mean, Zito and I were competing for being the driver of the RV full time.

And there are certain things that I do when I'm driving that I should have probably told him before him. Like, for instance, when a bridge is coming up, maybe eyeball that thing. You see an awning, same type of thing. He had to learn that from his own experiences, and now he'll be a better driver for it, just like those younger guys will be for you not giving them the keys to the castle.

I mean, that's a move. Zito, I'm telling you, that's a move I would make too. I mean, like, let's just go for this damn thing. And if we wreck, we wreck. Here we go. For the record, I was told by yellow shirts. So I was kind of pushed to the situation but free zito i'm gonna give you i'm just gonna say you made the decision thank you have you seen the video i watched it on maybe 13 times so did uh so everybody in my family has watched that video multiple times

sam's family everybody in sam's family has watched it multiple times it's hard not to just really once you see what's happening it's hard not to go back and be like okay let's go back and watch how fast that really was going his reaction the immediate blame to others i mean it was it was picture perfect of a video that should be great to watch forever i think that thing's going to be a cult classic i think i'm going to watch that probably 20 30 years yeah oh yeah disney movies exactly exactly uh who's going to win the stanley cup thank you it's a great question i mean as a homer i'm going to say the penguins in reality there's a great question. I mean, as a homer, I'm going to say the Penguins. In reality, there's a lot of good teams. There's a lot of good teams, a lot of good matchups.

And at the end of the day, playoff hockey, there's nothing like it, and that's why you play the games. Is Michael Francesa back there? Is Michael Francesa back there, Ty? Yeah, yeah, he is. Hey, can you ask him to give a similar answer to what AQ just gave about who's going to win the Stanley Cup? Yeah, sure. Hey, Mike, Francesa, I don't know a similar answer to what AQ just gave about who's going to win the Stanley Cup? Yeah, sure.

Hey, Mike, Frances, I don't know if you just heard what AQ said. He basically just gave a no answer at all but complimented everything. I played that real political. Real political. Well, you know, you look at the Penguins, they look pretty good. The Las Vegas Knights, they got a couple guys who can score. Are the Flyers in the playoffs this year? Flyers are not in the playoffs.

No, no, the Flyers are in the playoffs. Flyers are behind the wall. Okay. Well, the Lightning have a couple guys who can skate pretty well. Hey, don't sleep on the Blue Jackets. They are pretty good as well. Thanks, Mike. I appreciate it.

Let me read you this. I just gave you a fucking answer like I was talking to Josh Weinfuss of ESPN or something. The Penguins are going to win, damn it. There we go. He took a stand. Hey, you don't stand for anything. You don't stand for something. You don't stand for something. You'll fall for anything.

Yeah. You're balding up there. Is that what you were pointing at, or what were you pointing at? Yeah. Fucking this. The RV. The nothing. AQ had to grow his hair out for his big event when we were younger.

First wedding. You can say it. Big event. Big event. All right. Good. i didn't want to his first wedding he had to grow his hair out because that was a big part of it and man i ain't never seen somebody go through many so many awkward phases of hair like you know when your hair gets like i'm in an awkward phase right now but i'm gonna i look so fucking dumb it's not even funny it was everybody that was friends with aq was like uh like can we not just

go with the bald head for the gotta go with the long hair it was uh asked one to have the long hair i'm like yeah but you'll literally never look like that ever again another day in your life and it was like uh i'm happy i think i think i shaved my head the next day right yeah you did the next morning the next morning he shaved his i think you would have done it that night if you weren't so busy i think you would have came off. You have a good bald head, though. I feel good about it. I feel good about it.

You look like maybe you had a... I had to double check that right there. I feel good about it. Yeah, you should. You look like you had nappy hair before. Like real thick bristles. That's because you're a goatee. Yeah, I'm just judging by your goatee.

What was your hair like before? Todd, I started balding in seventh grade. I'm not sure what my fucking hair was. AQ hosts That's Hockey Talk with Frank Morado and Jeffrey Gorman here. Just like Nick Diggs and myself, AQ is from Pittsburgh, big-time Hockey Town, diehard hockey fan. The Hockey Town. The Hockey Town of the modern century.

I mean, modern history. What are you going to say? Bruins? Go Bruins. They're not even in the fucking running. All I'm going to say, type in the Google machine, Hockey Town, and see what pops up. I do.

I type in Hockey Town, Pittsburgh, PA. You're spelling it wrong, Foxy. C-A-H-N. That's how you got to spell it. You making your way back to the Igloo this playoffs? They get to the Cup or the eastern conference finals i'm coming back for sure i don't like the schedule though they keep they keep the way the fact that they're not at home first puts us in a sunday tuesday i can't really make it for those those are tough days

because you're in the middle of these volunteer workouts gotta go though gotta go people are trying to replace me you can't ask the new coach off for Penguins playoff game? Yeah, Pittsburgh Penguins. No, it doesn't work that way. You know what a big hockey guy down in Texas? No, big Lubbock, Texas guy. I don't think he's a guy. He knows what it is.

You have three guitars hanging behind you. We listened to you play one of them earlier. What are some other hobbies of the island, Clay Shipley? Is guitar a thing? Golf. Out out in the desert just playing golf the masters is this weekend hockey in the masters all weekend starts today don't do it who do you who do you got winning the masters oh i go tiger every year me too come on every Every year. Me too. Every year. If you're not rooting for Tiger, what are you doing in life? What are we doing? Nothing right. You're not watching.

You got to root for... The only people not rooting for Tiger, I bet, are the diehard golf fans. The diehard golf fans who enjoy the way this guy's short game is. Enjoy the way this guy approaches the course and attacks the course. At this point tiger phil or dj who i'm rooting for right i'm coming around on phil mickelson by the way for

that story jake owen told on the foreplay podcast how about that phil mickelson just punking jake owen right in his motherfucking face i like jake owen but i like that phil mickelson story a lot i also like he did um he did something for his calf exercise. Brilliant. Yeah, that's great. I think I might be becoming a Phil Mickelson guy. His Instagram game has really stepped his respect level up. Because everybody knows Phil Mickelson is probably the most famous number two of all time, right? I mean, Powerade, Adidas there for a long time was number two.

Number two from Austin Powers. Number two, Ticonderoga. Number two. Great one. Phil Mickelson was always number two. Number two from Austin Powers. Number two, Ticonderoga. Number two. Great one. Phil Mickelson was always number two right there behind Tiger, so I never really thought about giving him a chance. But now that I'm starting to learn about this fellow a little bit, I think I'm a big fan of this fellow. He's also a big degenerate. Yeah, yesterday there was a

video that came out. It was him on the practice tease, and he had just a couple crisp hundos hanging out of his pocket. Taking baseball swings with a golf club. I saw him doing that. He's so smooth. Whenever I was golfing with you in Arizona, Foxy and I were golfing with you,

you started quoting Phil Mickelson for shots. Like, oh, there's dew on the ground. Ball's going to travel two to four yards shorter. Phil Mickelson told me that. You remember when you said that? Yeah, I do. What do you do? Are you really trying to... I got a video of you bending a little chip shot around a tree and you're going,

I did it like old Philly. Do you try to really become a good golfer or are you just out there hacking around? I mean, I will never take a lesson. I got too much pride in that, but I'm completely okay shooting high 70s here and there. I feel like every professional

though is known to have a lesson. Yeah, but I'm saying like I think like the pros like they take lessons. Yeah. See, I don't think that's 100% true either. I don't think so either. Bubba wouldn't lie. I thought they have swing coaches. Multiple of them. Yeah, they do. Don't believe in them.. Don't believe in them.

I don't believe in them. Who's the offensive line? They're going to try and change too much of what I do, and I'm okay with what I do. Hey, that's how I feel about a lot of things. I'm going to let that be known. Don't change the recipe. They probably don't have your build either,

so they don't know things that you can and can't do. That's exactly the way I think. You know how Lou Holtz talks about a bumblebee not being able to fly because the wings are too small for the body? Is Lou Holtz back there? Hey, pal, how you doing today?

I love the bumblebee. Oh, God. He died. I think I'm having a heart attack literally cramping right now just like he started to slide into another character I'm literally cramping right now. Oh, it's a rip-cranton. Just like... He started to slide into another character. Just like Lou Oates is not... Just like bumblebees aren't supposed to fly.

A.Q. Shipley's not supposed to be able to golf. He's the bumblebee of golf. He's the bumblebee of golf.'s the bumblebee of golf right now he's really digging in he's got a t-rex body he's got a t-rex body yeah his arms are too short for his body he's round he's a little bit stiff up top he's huge he's like wreck it ralph he's got he's got a knee surgery he just comes out of. But his golf swing is somehow incredibly smooth. Like, very, very smooth.

You're not supposed to be as good of a golfer as you are. I mean, I appreciate that. I took a lot of shots. I just swing and hope for the best. And a couple times, I really let that thing just send. I let it send. Yeah, you do. How's parenting?

Oh, parenting's awesome. She just turned 11 months. So next month. Look at her. Almost a year with this thing. Almost a year. And she's happy. And she's growing.

And I think we're doing a good job. happy and she's growing and i think i think we're doing a good job you were you were in mission control center all by yourself with that baby uh just a couple of hours all by yourself it was just you a house with a lot of things to potentially fuck this whole thing up with in that goddamn baby the mom was out of town for the weekend and honestly i didn't know if you're going to get through it. It sounds as if that weren't okay. It went beyond okay. And let me tell you something.

Ma, I'm going to get killed. I know I'm going to get killed for this. Crushed. Crushed. This is why I asked the question, by the way, so you can potentially bury yourself. Yeah. Right.

No matter how hard it is, no matter how difficult it is on the weekend when when my wife calls from out of town how'd she do tonight i'm in a full sweat i changed outfits four times because i'm sweating through shirt babe she's so easy i don't know why you make this thing because you have to sell that it isn't that hard so that in the future whenever it's coming back at you you can just be like oh babe you remember whenever you went out of town i didn't even have a problem at all not a single problem it was easy i mean i got her to bed she ate it was perfect it was a nightmare though it's? It was a nightmare? Oh, it gets tough sometimes.

There's just no you time at all. Like that 20 minutes you want to watch TV, it doesn't happen. It just doesn't happen. There's nobody to pass off to. Nobody to pass off to. Still happy you had a baby though, right? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Best thing ever.

It really is. Why do people say that? Because they have to. Because there's nothing like it. I mean, honestly, I could get mother fucked up and down at a practice all day long. I could come home and she at 11 months, like the minute she sees me, like her only word, it might be the only word she knows. But to me, every time she says dada, it literally, if mom's running at her, she says dada too, but it's okay.

So dada was the first word? Oh, yeah. Let's go! Good win. It's a win. It's a win. I take all the wins I can get in this thing. How mad was she? Mom. Your wife. She's can get in this thing. How mad was she? Mom.

Your wife. She's still mad to this point. I'm not even kidding you. The nanny tries to get her to say Elmo before Mom, and it's like a joke at this point. We're trying to get her to say every word but Mom at this point. That's not bad. Just you, the baby, and the nanny teaming up on Mom's confidence.

Yeah, exactly. AQ, how old is your daughter going to be in 13 months? That a boy. Oh, good question. I mean, 24 months, right? God damn it. Don't be that parent that says, how old is she? She's 24.

She's two years old. Two years old. She's two years old. The families that say she's like oh she's 37 months old they're the worst don't be that bad it's not a dachshund it's a wiener dog you know what i mean yeah come on i just wanted to make you a parent that says two years what if he says 12 months next month it's tough i mean i wouldn't i would think a lot differently tony then you're banned from the show for three months, right? Sure. I don't make those rules. Until the baby's 15 months, yeah.

Until she's 15 months. Yeah, exactly. What did you say then? A year and three months? Almost a year and a half. Almost a year and a half. A year and three months. Yeah, you got to bring it somewhere.

You don't want to be at Little League and be like, hey, he's 150 months. What do you mean he can't? Yeah, he's of age. Are you going to have your daughter do the sports? I mean, that's the plan. Golf, probably? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I'm going to start taking her. Once she can walk, I'm going to start taking her over to the driving range. Oh, country club kid. Yeah, country club kid, just like Foxy. Fucking right. Fucking right, pigs. Ten years in the NFL, fucking right. It's a good life, AQ.

It's a good life. felt fucking right hey it's a good life aq it's a good life uh you need to get video and photos so that they can do the eldrick woods with his dad thing later whenever she's taking over the lpga yeah that's the that's the you're right you know it's funny it's funny i try like i give her you know like a little like it's like a little squishy like basketball and i try and get her to throw and she just like flings it up in the air. And I'm like, you know what? Like she's going to be an athlete.

Like she's going to be, but I'm sure there's like clips of like another 11 month old out there. That's literally throwing it 15 yards. Yeah. Well, everybody always says their baby's the smartest in the 99 percentile and all these things. And I'm like,

I think that's just the doctor's standard answer to you. I think the doctor just tells every baby, unless it's a very dumb baby, if a dumb baby walks in there, you got the smartest baby we've seen in at least a week or two. Every baby I've ever heard is the smartest, the most athletic, and the most advanced than any other babies of the age. Every single one. And Facebook's filled with them.

I think you should start saying that about her. Most athletic 11 month old on the planet. Start the branding now? Yes. I think we start doing that right now. Alright, perfect. Are you guys going to have another child or is this it? We're going to keep going. Oh, so after

experiencing, you're like, yeah, I want another one? Yeah, I mean, like I said, this one's been really easy, right? Yeah, you did. You did say that. You did say that. All right, man. We got to get out of here.

Let's go, Pens. Let's go, Pens. What if they lost last night? That would be a real bummer. Don't even say it. No, keep it going. They've already won. We're keeping it rolling.

I assume the atmosphere is going to be electric in there. I want to let you guys know that anytime I watch the Penguins, normally good things happen. That's true. I'm going to be tuning in tonight. I'm going to be tuning in. I'm going to tune in tonight. I'm going to make sure I watch every single shift tonight, Nick.

I think we've had this conversation, actually, where I'm superstitious big time when I watch these Penguins game. Like if my wife is sitting next to me and the other team scores a goal, she's never allowed on that. Never. Thank you. Don't like walk back in the living room. I'm like, sit on the floor.

I am a curse to the Pittsburgh. Just don't tweet about them. I am. I am a curse to the Pittsburgh Penguins. Just don't tweet about them calling them a lock. I am a curse to the Pittsburgh Penguins. Don't put the bad juju on us. Well, I want to watch. I want to watch. You can watch. Just don't call them a lock.

That's all. It is a lock. What is it? The Penguins in the playoffs. It's a lock. They're up 2-0, and then you're like, oh, they're winning the series, and then they come back. I'm putting a tweet out right now.

Penguins in the playoffs? Consider that a lock. Penguins in the playoffs? Nick's face right now. I just died a little inside. AQ's face, too. He's sweating even more now than he was. You're giving me another heart attack over here.

This is not good for my health. Go ahead and lock that in tonight. Go ahead and lock that in tonight. This is a disaster. Better grab that guitar, sing that swan song, AQ. I'm not even going to watch a game tonight. Fuck on San Jose Sharks game. It's a lock.

It's a lock, AQ. It's a lock. The Penguins are going to win because it's Penguins in the playoffs. But I don't even watch it then. What? Don't even watch the game then, right? That's what you're telling me? I'm going to win because it's the Penguins in the playoffs. But don't even watch it then. What? Don't even watch the game then, right? That's what you're telling me? I'm going to watch.

It's just the Penguins in the playoffs. This is hockey season. This is hockey talk. This is what I'm here for. Penn's going to win it all. Tonight's a lock. Probably 4-0 this first series here if I had to guess. Still got Sid. Still got Malkin. Still got Gino. Still got the greatest American hero ever to live, Phil Kessel. Still got him. Two-time Stanley Cup champion Matt Murray. Still got Sid. Still got Malkin. Still got Gino. Still got the greatest American hero over the lifts, Phil Kessel.

Still got him. Two-time Stanley Cup champion Matt Murray. Still there. Lock. Genselvania. It's a guarantee. Everybody needs to know this is a guarantee for tonight. This is a lock it in.

I don't like what I just did there. I'm so thankful. Jake Gensel, 42 points in 37 playoff games. Look at that. Young stud. Young sniper. That's what I'm talking about, Nick. Keep throwing those plugs in there. That's what we do.

That's hockey talk. Gensel won't make the mistake of when his contract is up going and taking big bucks somewhere, right? Already signed a new one. That's what I'm talking about. For how much? Six mil a year. Five for 30. Look at him. Got him cheap.

Signed it before this season. Goes on to score 40 goals this season. Well, that's what I'm saying. I don't think that's for cheap, though. I think he understands being on Sidney Crosby's line has some fucking benefiting facts. Oh, yeah. That's smart. Because just like the South Park guys, the one guy was offered a massive amount of money

to go do his own show. And he was like, listen, this is mostly this guy's brain. I'm just here for it. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Was that Trey or Trey Parker or Matt Stone? The guy with the fro was offered to leave. The other guy with the blonde hair, I guess,

is the brains behind the whole thing. Just like us. Well, the one guy, though, was offered like, hey, you can come do this somewhere. And he was like, no, no, no, I'm not going to do that. And that's what Gensel did. Gensel was like, no, no, no, I'm not going to do that. And that's what Gensel did. Gensel's like, no, no, no, I'm not going to just go take the big payment here. I very much understand that being on a line with the greatest hockey player

to ever skate on the ice is probably helping me out a bit. $6 million a year is a hell of an amount of cash. I can take care of everybody for it. It's a great deal. It's a very fair deal. He could have got more somewhere else. Exactly. He could always get paid down the line.

Or he could have held out and squeezed them for more. He didn't. Good guy. Good man. That's why I like him. That's why I'm guy. Good man. That's what I like him. That's what I'm talking about, Gantz. That's how you win championships. That's how I know they're a lock.

Go ahead. Can I futures bet them to sweep this series? Sure. Sure. Go ahead and lock that one in, too. That's a guarantee. They're going to sweep this series. Lock that one in.

Who's next? Goldberg. Who's next series? Washington. Washington. Oh, lock it in. Washington. They won the cup last year. Fucking guarantee. Who's next? Goldberg. Who's next series? Washington. Washington. Oh, lock it in. Washington. They won the cup last year.

Fucking guaranteed. That's a guarantee. We ain't going to do what we did last year. That's probably four. Now we're eight games in. Now we're eight games in. We're past Tampa. Who are we playing?

Bruins. Tampa would be after that, probably. Tampa? Bruins. Historically. I'm going to full body cramp. Stop it. Hey, listen.

This is a little magic eight ball here for the NHL playoffs. I'm happy I could do this for people. After we take on probably the Bruins or the Alps at Tampa, strictly for the Boston-Connor bump. They're for sure. Probably winning four games there, and then what? Now it's the Stanley Cup Finals. You got it.

So we're 12 games in. We're rested. We feel good. Going to sweep the Stanley Cup. That's what I'm talking about. That's an epic playoff run. That'd be a hell of a run. Hey, good job. That's a guarantee.

Fourth cup for Sid. Going to have to find a place to bet it at. I'm betting it. Well, we're going to have... A lot of things have happened in the last 24 hours. We talked about that earlier in the show. We're fluid. We adapt. Yeah, we do adapt. So go ahead.

That's a guarantee. I'm happy we can do that. AQ, you got any locks this year for the Arizona Cardinals? We're going to be better. I know that much. I know that. We're going to be better. Okay. Yeah.

There you go. I'll be excited to see how the draft goes. I think I'm announcing a draft pick, by the way. Are you? At the draft, yeah. You think if they call me to announce a draft pick, that means it's the end of the road? I will tell you this.

The year I retired, the other two people who retired the same year as me, they got to announce a pick, and then an orangutan from the zoo here in Indianapolis announced a pick. I did not. I did not it was robert mathis joe writes and an orangutan and i it was us three that retired that year so here we are a couple years later and i'm getting my shot i'm getting my shot i'm really pumped for you man i'm really pumped for you, man. I'm really pumped. The trajectory that we're going at. Nick wants me to wear an orangutan t-shirt. Oh, you have to. Nick wants me to wear like an orangutan. Oh, that would be so fucking epic.

You think the orangutan is on call right now just in case you back up? We got one of them fucking monkeys available. Mac, if he drops out. Yeah, but it's good to be here. It's great to be here. I'm going to turn that thing into a full diatribe for sure. Got to. I'm going to cut a full promo a full diatribe for sure. Got to. I'm going to cut a full promo for the city of Indianapolis.

Let's go. Next pick will be coming up. You're on the clock. It's going to be awesome. Anyways, hey, thanks for stopping by, man. Cheers, guys. Good luck to the Arizona Cardinals. Thank you.

Thank you. Can you play a little guitar riff to send us out here from A.Q. Shipley's studio in his house where there is a baby present somewhere? From A.Q. Shipley's studio, here's a man and his guitar. This is not happening. Ladies and gentlemen, from Western Pennsylvania, 11-year NFL vet and his guitar, Alan Quay Shipley. Please make some. Okay, hold on one sec. I got something.

He's tuning his guitar. Just a man in his guitar. He's tuned in. I'm just tuning it up real quick. When he came out of college, they said, this man will never make it in the NFL. His arms are too short. He's going to get bull rushed. Wow.

How about the way I'm playing this, guys? It's really good. I can only hear the drum. Is your daughter playing drums? Who is that? I got somebody in the bathroom back there playing drums. AQ, good luck this season. thank you so much for joining us tell everybody we said hello over there in the desert please and uh how about larry fitzgerald just take another 10 million let's play another year what the um he's gonna play

forever just keep giving him 10 million. You know what? Me too. We'll catch balls for 10 million. Larry Fitzgerald. The ultimate professional, though. No question. Yeah, he has to be. Keep his body in this good of shape this long.

By the way, his nose clean. He's nothing but a positive press, and he's just raking in $10 million a year for a team that doesn't really have much to build a foundation off of, having a top five wide receiver of all time is a pretty good thing to have. No question. Was that too high? Nobody reacted. That's not too high. I think that's spot on. That's probably accurate, right? Top five wide receiver of all time?

Top ten, definitely. No way, man. Top three is crazy. You got Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Calvin, T.O., even if you want to fucking... T.O. is in there You got Jerry Rice. Randy. Randy Moss. Calvin. T.O. even if you want to fucking.

T.O. T.O. is in there. And then Larry. And then Larry Fitzgerald, I guess. At five. Sitting there at five. Who were you putting? I don't know.

You got Marvin Harrison was an incredible interceiver. That's what I was thinking. Marvin Harrison was incredible. Wayne Krabat, maybe. Larry. Don't forget about Steve fucking Taskerer I think Larry did it with a little With a little less than Marvin Yeah I think so

I think having a good quarterback Is a massive deal when it comes to being a wide receiver He also didn't have that many great quarterbacks That was a carousel over there Chad Pennington probably the best one Fucking Marshalls, man. All right. Good luck, AQ.

See you guys. It's been fun. How's it? Been a fucking blast. Why don't you grow your hair back for the season, man? I've been trying for three weeks and this is all I got. Hang it up. Hang it up, ladies and gentlemen.

Alan Quay. Hold on. Whippeo Hall of Famer. 11-year NFL vet. Podcast host of That's Hockey Talk. Alan Quay. Bowling ball. Shipley.

Yeah. Love it. The guy's good. He's wild. Yes, he is. Wild. He was sweating two minutes Into that interview

And it did not stop Until the very end We tried to get him To sing a guitar Sing a song With his guitar there He got a little stage fright He did

Yeah Hopefully we'll work Past that confidence And maybe send him A tweet right now And tell him to Have a little bit more confidence In his fingers and his guitar

We got nothing but faith In the kid Think he would've Crushed there at the end I think so too From myself, at Tom McComas, at Diggs with a Z, at Nick Morado, at Hey Gorman, at

Viva Lozito, at Boston Connor, at Adam Foxy, and at Ty Schmidt. We can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to this dumb show on a regular basis. Game of Thrones is coming out on Sunday. Let's go. We should talk about it. There's a Deadpool?

Deadpool. I think we're doing one, I believe. We should talk about it. There's a dead pool? Death pool. I think we're doing one, I believe. We are going to do a death pool for Game of Thrones. Okay, where's that going to be at? We're going to tweet it out. We're going to make a video, tweet it out, so you can see who we picked. You guys are diehard Throners, right? Oh, yeah.

Big time. Big time. I'm down with the throne. You're down with the throne? I die with the throne. You die? So after the season's over, you're so Zito? Yeah. That's exciting. Game you're so Zito? Yeah.

That's exciting. Game of Thrones, Zito's dead. Okay, so it's like a Dirk Nowitzki, Dwayne Wade walk-off season for Zito. You're dead after this?

He has two swords. Yeah, I do. GOT Z is gone. Okay, so don't try to make another one of those fucking accounts. It's already done. Yep.

GOT Z has already happened? Yeah. Now it has. It will be. Oh, my God. By the way, can we clarify, like, are we going with Death Pool or Deadpool? Because you guys are the first people I've ever heard use the TH.

It's just because Deadpool is a movie. Yeah, because it's copyrighted, so you can't put it on stuff. Well, here's what makes sense. Do you flip somebody off or flick somebody off? Flip, flip. Because you flip your fingers up. My son, until like like 16 said flick. I think I used flick on a pretty regular basis

until probably like six, seven years ago. We know what you're talking about. Yeah, I think it works in both situations because you flick your middle finger up and you flip it up. Yeah, but I guess flip is definitely the right term. Yeah. Well, you'd always say flip the bird

if you were calling it the bird. I don't think you would ever say flick the bird, right? True. No. True. Flip the bird. I would always say flick them off there you go so different iterations of it yeah because you can intermix flick and jerk there too oh true jerk the bird but you you flip somebody off just like it's is it that it's. Death. Yeah, because there's multiple people dying. Yeah, that's not the real word.

That's the substitute word. Times have changed, yeah. The movie, the character. They made a movie and a character about it because that's what it is, death pool. They didn't call the movie death pool. We just got sued by Fox. You guys get offended when you're driving and you get flipped off? No.

You give them a big-ass smile. I know I deserve it. You give them two thumbs up. know i deserve it it happens it happens to me on a very regular basis you guys have seen the way i drive offensive driving oh yeah very offensive i am now granted i'm not scared though to go ahead and like for instance you also have an 18 wheeler semi-truck trailer rolling down there i mean it's kind of easy to just you know you're above everybody and you're bigger now you should see me on a motorcycle too i took that thing out for the first time yesterday. Ooh, how'd it go?

I was driving, and I'll tell you what, man. People say it's dangerous. I think it's dangerous if you're a defensive driver. Yes. You know what I mean? Like with a motorcycle, I think it's dangerous if you're a defensive driver. You have to watch the driver, right? The big thing whenever you're riding a motorcycle, for your motorcycle out there you already know this i'm assuming if not here's a nice little tip if somebody's been riding for

like over a decade or so on the streets pretty aggressively you gotta watch the driver you don't watch the car you watch the driver because if they're going to change lanes the driver's going to move his elbow before anything else so even if they don't use turn signals or they make a last minute jerk if you're watching the driver just like a D and Robert Mathis watches the outside knee of the tackle, because if the knee moves, that means the body's going to move.

You got to do that when you're in a motorcycle. And I feel like that has helped me out a lot. I want a drone to follow me to work in the morning and just kind of just to, I don't know if I can keep up though. No, probably not strap a gopro to your own unless it's a military drone that's what but i think the aerial view is the thing i like i feel good about the way i can dissect the way cars are you know what i mean and be like okay

i get to the middle lane here we can ride this a little bit then we're back over here i always try to keep a lane distance with cars you hit the hole so not no i don't i don't like to hit the hole because I think that is where you kind of get trapped. Yeah, you become a sandwich. Yeah, you kind of got to read, like, I try to keep a lane space between me and any cars. Smart. And to do that, you got to really look ahead and, like, kind of map out your route. And I feel like I'm pretty solid. Is your ride in under an hour?

Yeah, for sure. Well, I know a guy who could rent something really big above us. Oh, yeah. Four. And we just need a guy who could rent something really big above us. Oh, yeah. Four. And we just need a camera. By the way, go back to the beginning of the show. Nope, we'll do this for the ad read. If you haven't entered the helicopter golf ball drop,

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Well, I need a dollar, dollar, dollar, that's what I need Said I need a dollar, dollar, dollar, that's what I need And I need a dollar, dollar, dollar, that's what I need And if I share with you my story, would you share your dollar with me? Well, I don't know if I'm walking on solid ground Cause everything around me is crumbling down And all I want is someone to help me What in the world am I gonna do tomorrow? Is there someone with the dollar I could borrow?

Who can help me take away my sorrow? Maybe it's inside the bottle Maybe it's inside the bottle I had some good old buddies Names as whiskey and wine And for my good old buddies, names as whiskey and wine And for my good old buddies, I spent my last dime Now wine is good to me, it helped me pass the time And my good old buddy, whiskey keep me warm in the sunshine

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