The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 064 - John Daly, Dan Orlovsky, Tiger's Back, & The NFL Never Sleeps

Episode Date: April 16, 2019

On today's show, Pat and the guys break down one of the most memorable Sunday's in recent memory as they look back on Tiger Woods winning his 5th Green Jacket at the Masters and discuss his greatness, how much more he has in the tank, and why things were different this time around when they've looked promising before. To chat a little bit more about Tiger, Pat welcomes on friend of the show, 2X Major Champion, and one of the most electric human beings to ever walk the planet, John Daly. They chat about his week in Augusta at Hooters and how it differed from last year, how Little John has been performing on the course as of late, what he thought about Tiger winning his 5th Green Jacket and whether or not he's going to make a run at Jack Nicklaus' major record, and if there are any young players right now that can challenge the greatness of Tiger's career (22:47-27:47). Pat and the guys also welcome recurring guest, regular panelist on "Get Up," and 11 year NFL veteran, Dan Orlovsky, to chat about Russell Wilson giving the Seahawks a hard deadline for a new extension, and whether or not he could end up playing QB for the Giants. They also chat about which coaches from the Sean McVay mold will have successful season or if he is an anomaly, if Joe Flacco will resurrect his career in Denver, and Dan gives out a couple of his sleeper picks for the NFC and AFC next year (38:41-50:20). To close out the show, the guys discuss the premiere of Game of Thrones and try to convince Pat that getting on board with the show is worth his time, and Pat announces the upcoming live podcast tour which has 6 dates in 6 different cities this summer. It's a fun one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This past weekend was an electric one, and we talk about all of it. Ladies and gentlemen, a country music legend joins us today. John Daly stops in to talk about the Masters and his friend Tiger Woods winning it again. And his friend Tiger Woods winning it again. Easy for you to say. We dive into the Masters and how golf really took over the weekend and how the sport is back on the map because a guy who had a bad back is back. We talked about Game of Thrones a little bit. We talked about the NHL. We talked about NBA, and we talked about our lives.

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Pub, you guys went golfing this weekend? Oh, yeah. Tiger, motivating us to get out there. Yeah, I saw you actually hop on top of a golf cart, then over a barbed wire fence to hit a ball off of a street. Yes, well, I had to. I tried to do it without the golf cart. Cut my hands up a little bit.

I got a couple blisters. Hey, play it as it lies. You guys, just for those that don't follow Evan Fox or Connor or Zito on Instagram, we don't blame you for not following them. A lot of people don't. But you guys were golfing in what was the equivalent of, I think it was worse than my yard. Yeah. Yeah. You would have an easier time putting in your backyard. golfing in what was the equivalent of i think was worse than my yard yeah yeah yeah you would

have an easier time putting in your backyard yeah you guys golf in the golf course equivalent to the pub which is just a shithole yeah that's a perfect perfect way to describe it so we wanted to play some golf and we found the closest golf course to the pub and it turns out we got there and i look over at the practice screen and it says out of order there, and I look over at the practice green, and it says, Out of Order. And I'm like, this is not a good sign. This is not a good sign. And if you see the videos that I posted, you can see why.

But usually year-round, though, it's a very, very nice green. They're just fixing them all up. You've played there before, and it's been better? It's been better. Yeah, it's just out of the winter. I mean, you could even see the Bobcat tracks across the green that were probably picking up snow. Were those the Bobcats or Zito's tracks? I don't know.

So it's a nine-hole little shithole. Yeah, there's one par five, all par fours and threes. That's why we like it, though. You know, we showed up. We're the only ones on the course. How much did you pay? It was $18 for nine with card each. That's kind of expensive.

I was talking to them while they were golfing and they said it was $18 for nine and a card. I said, for all three of you? No, no, each. I'm like, holy shit. Mine was $26 because I bought balls. That's a classic move. How was the golf game? How'd you guys do?

You know, we were up and down, but I mean, you can't like I said, you can't really judge your game because there was no putting. It definitely made us way better. You should have just had a two-putt roll. Once you got on the green, adds two strokes. Watching the Masters made me want to just go golf immediately.

It is such a relaxed, and I think that's a part of the allure of the Masters. The Masters nap is a real thing and Nance's voice is just so calming. Oh yeah, birds. Vern Lundquist gets in there and he's got a little bit of a smooth stroke there

with his voice. It's just everything about it was just like, man, this is awesome television. You're not going to see anything else like that, by the way. No. Where the world is captivated strictly by how relaxed and calm everything is. Now, granted, you throw a legend in the mix like Tiger was, who has, by the way, I don't know if anybody else in golf could have done what Tiger has done to the fashion of golf. He walks into that golf club that is very hard to get into without a collar with a fucking T-shirt on.

It's a mock turtle. Well, the first one wasn't. I don't even think it was a mock turtle. It seemed just to be a T-shirt that was just kind of an athletic fit. And then on Sunday, he goes with the mock turtleneck. I'm like thanking Tiger strictly for his fashion thing, but also him coming back and doing what he did was just a thing of beauty. I mean, you're talking about Francesco Molinari going for a fucking swim.

Then old Cousy Finau, by the way. I like the way he plays. Tony's great. Tony's the man. He's fun to watch. I like Tony Finau. I don't think I knew anything about him before this weekend, but I like the way he plays.

Very casual, very calm. They look like they're wearing Air Maxes, too. That whole crew had a bunch of Air Maxes on. There was like six or seven of them. He was so casual and calm. Last year, if you remember, when he dislocated his ankle celebrating a hole-in-one and then just sat down and just popped it right back in place. No, I didn't know that was him.

But he goes in to drink, and then all of a sudden Tiger takes a smart shot. They're like, oh, the old veteran. The old veteran move, aiming for the middle of the fucking green. It's like, I don't know. I don't know how veteran of a move that is. He just saw two people go in the water. I love the Masters, though. This was the first time in my existence

that I watched everything from Saturday and Sunday all the way through. And boy, I really enjoyed watching golf there for a bit. I enjoyed it a lot. My girlfriend and I watched the final round at Sullivan's Steakhouse, and we went on the bar side because no one was in there. We had all the TVs to ourself.

So we're in there watching. Gets down to the 17th hole, I believe. And some lady, periodically she would come from the restaurant side to check up on Tiger. Gets up there and he's getting ready to putt. And she literally looks at her phone and says, oh, there must be a time delay. My cousin just said he hit the shot. He's going in the final hole. And I was like, what the fuck did she just do?

You came from that side to ruin my fucking day? It was electric, like pins and needles. I was on the edge of my couch like, come on, Tiger. Just like feeling it for Tiger Woods. And I bet on Tiger Woods last year, I think, in every tournament he got in. And then I said, I'm done betting on him. I never said he was done forever. I just was done betting on him.

And then all of a sudden you watch him just kind of, he said plotting, which I don't think I particularly know what the fuck that means. He was plotting around the course. He said it a bunch of times in his post-interview. Plotting around, plotting around. I don't know what that means. But watching him make decisions there on hole 18 in particular, where he laid up like twice almost, I'm like,

yo, Tiger, come the fuck on. Because that tap-in he had at the end, I'm like, oh, no. Don't do this. Do not miss this tap-in right now. Because then he goes to the overtime. I assume he would lose then. But I feel like he had it all under control. That moment with his son was obviously awesome. His his girlfriend getting some face time by the way yeah there

there was a couple times there though where um they were obviously cropping her out of the shot yes the girlfriend they had the daughter the mom the mom's heavy zooming for the son and it just was perfectly cropped out at the girlfriend it's like all right we're gonna need this for later if they break up so yeah let's make sure we get a shot. Let's make sure we get a shot of just the family there. And we'll add her in. Then we get the family. Then we add her.

Then we get the family. You got a director back there like, we don't know if Tiger's going to be in this. Make sure she's not in there the whole time. I thought it was just a really good moment for golf. Did we find out who paid the cop to take him out? Yeah, by the way, what was that all about? In my mind, I studied the tape. We talked about it on Friday a little bit.

He had slipped earlier. Yeah, he already had a knee. His knee was already wet. And he was just playing catch-up because he didn't want Tiger to get engulfed by the crowd. For those of you that don't know, on Friday, Tiger was walking, and everywhere Tiger goes, he sells out golf courses, by the way. There's people that sell out stadiums. There's people that sell out arenas. Tiger he sells out golf courses by the way there's people that sell out stadiums there's people that sell out arenas tiger woods sells out golf courses so you just got herds and flocks of people trying to touch him be around him and i would assume security is at an

all-time high like okay here's our fucking golden boy literally yeah here is our golden goose for everything they said that sales were up 66% or something in the PGA thing because of the red mock turtlenecks, everything like that. Money just goes through the roof. An old buddy, security guy, comes flying. There's nobody even around Tiger. Just super cop. It's another cop around him.

Yeah, the other comes to protect him. Does a soccer slide, like one knee back, and clips Tiger Woods' right ankle. And Tiger looks like a wounded animal as he's skipping out of it. And everybody is wondering, like, who the fuck is this guy? But the question I had immediately was, his knee was already wet. This was not this guy's first time on the ground. And if you're a security guard at Augusta,

I don't know what type of things you have to pass. That guy had to have a great career before that day, and then he had the worst day of his fucking life. He was wearing his grass-cutting boots, and you could tell it. There was a little dew. There was a little water on the greens, and then he's just not used to running with those boots on in slippery conditions.

He was slick. I'm assuming at Augusta it's different, but most golf tournaments, those are just volunteers. At Augusta, there's no way you just have volunteers wearing the yellow shirt. They're not just having yellow shirts. He's the master. He's like, come on. You were talking about betting Tiger. Nick and I had pretty

decent bets on Franco Molinari to win. It didn't matter. I wanted Tiger to win. I will say this. Francesco Molinari, people are saying he choked. I think he got very unlucky. Very, very unlucky. He hit that one pine cone that dropped him into water again.

He is a precision golfer. That guy is very impressive watching him. The thing that I love the most, though, is when Tiger finally took the lead. Then he almost hits a fucking hole in one. What a feeling that had to be on the box. With Phelps right behind him. Yeah, what a feeling.

Fucking over his shoulder. Phelps, you couldn't see that? Guys, zoom in. Phel to be on the box. With Phelps right behind him. Yeah, what a feeling. Fucking over his shoulder. Phelps, you couldn't see that? Zoom in. Phelps, by the way, he's one of us. Yes. Greatest Olympian of all time. One of us just hanging out, probably had a beer, overlooking Tiger's shoulder.

But as soon as Tiger takes the lead, instead of being scared like you would tell most other golfers would be, they'd be scared of the moment. No, no, he almost hits a fucking hole in one. And it was at that moment I was like, here we go. Here we go. This is what happens. Because everybody else had to watch that happen too.

All the other golfers had to listen to it. They had to hear it. And it's like the tiger effect is a real thing. Everyone else who took the lead on the back nine then bogeyed literally the next hole. Yeah, they shit all over themselves. It was a real thing. That Patrick Cantlie dude came up out of nowhere.

That was wild. Came out of nowhere. Nobody even knew he existed. Bang, we got a new leader. No, we don't. Bogey, bogey, he is back out of this thing. I enjoyed watching golf. Today's conversation is just heating up.

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Me and Evan were talking about this earlier. So typically, like, after he does that on 16, gets that birdie, takes the lead on 17, he'll fucking shoot one into the highway. He piped both those fucking drives down the center. Well, Well, he took out a 3-wood too, I think. Yeah, he did on 18, but on 17, he absolutely just hammered it and like, you know, 100 yards away, he's already walking towards it, like knows it's perfect.

I was like, alright, it's in the bag. It's done. The thought of that 18, though, I don't know if it was him and his caddy or not, but there had to be a moment where he either was talking to himself like, all right, tiger, listen,

you don't have to be like old tiger. You're a new tiger now, you know? And what did tiger decide whenever tiger was in remission? And when tiger wasn't a good golfing tiger, if we get a chance to win, we just take the win. We don't need to bury anybody.

We just need to take the win. Another, a fifth green jacket here tiger fuck yeah we can lay out give me that three wood yeah and then his caddy was probably like are you sure you want a three wood yeah give me that fucking three what are they gonna do judge me out here looked around probably as he held up the three wood look at everybody going oh he's not taking out the drivers yeah you're fucking right i'm gonna bogey this hole and i'm gonna win the masters right now that was a cool cool thing to just watch Tiger set aside any pride

that he might have had, you know what I mean? Because Tiger, I would assume that's a very difficult decision for him to do. You watch Tin Cup. I mean, you might as well judge every single human that lays up after watching Tin Cup. Tiger is known to be a killer. Like, that's what the red is. You know what I mean?

We're power day. We're going to kill. And he decided to lay up and take the dub. And I was like, you know what? I'm proud of the old tiger. I'm proud of the old tiger for making that mature of a decision. For instance, I'm in that Lake Tahoe thing. It's official that I am 100% in there.

Let's go. Big news. Had to sign the paperwork. Had to give him my shoe size and my handicap. Don't have one. Made one up. Nice. What'd you give yourself?

13. Yeah. I'm about 12, 13 right 12 13 we'll see 12 13 but if i'm in the lead there and it's coming down to the last hole and i just need a bogey or something it's gonna be hard not to go for a birdie i'm gonna be honest and just fucking bury it home i'm gonna have to have the tiger conversation with myself like oh just take out that fucking uh just take out the little hybrid bump. Just pump. Just go ahead and pump that thing out there in the middle of the fairway.

But I'm not going to do it. I'm going to be like, give me that fucking big stick. We're going out exactly how we came in and I'm probably going to lose. And I'll have to have that tiger moment with myself. Well, a lot of times dudes, like when they do take the gas off on 18,

they're like, they'll fuck up. Right. Like, just because. It's a whole different style. Yeah. That's the opposite of what he's been doing all day long. And he almost did. Yeah, it was a little right. And he said he had mud on his ball. That's a whole different style. Yeah. That's the opposite of what he's been doing all day long. And he almost did. Yeah, it was a little right.

And he said he had mud on his ball. That's why he laid it up again. But then he – he's a chipping two-putt. Tiger two-putts there. What if Brooks Koepka makes that birdie? Now we're talking. If Koepka makes that birdie, I would assume Tiger then puts it on the green and then does his thing.

I knew there was something special going on on nine. I think it was the ninth green. He made that putt. Well, he didn't make the putt, but he put that putt out there that was like, no joke, probably a 35, 40-foot putt downhill that just kept rolling and checked up right by the hole. Yeah, it was awesome to watch. Mike Greenberg of Get Up Now, Mike and Mike,

he put a two-minute diatribe out about how he felt watching Tiger Woods come back. And honestly, I don't think anybody could hit the nail on the head. It was like whenever we were kids, we were watching with our old man, right? We were watching that with Tiger Woods brought my dad into golf, I think, honestly. John Daly and Tiger Woods are the people that brought America into golf. Then it kind of disappeared. This younger generation wasn't the most likable generation of golfers and now tiger comes back and leads and wins and then his kids are there it's like literally a full circle of

just life coming together and i bet you golf couldn't be more thankful for everything that happened down there in augusta greatest moment in golf history i said i teared up did anyone else tear up sure i was like what the fuck is going on yeah i very much questioned myself i never met the guy it was hard not to i know and i was and then you think of the kids right you think of the obviously the mom yeah and you think of the whole situation whenever you see that but instead it's like this is awesome for tiger yes the greatest athlete at a time of all time. He was the most dominant athlete on planet Earth for a long time. He's paid as well, right?

Hell of a fall from grace. Hell of a fall from grace. Both publicly, physically, mentally. Everything goes all the way down to the bottom. And then watching him come back up right there at Augusta. I mean, that's a... Because he led, what, two years ago? He led in Augusta? There was a two years ago, he led it in Augusta.

There was a few years ago when he put it off of. Did you say, yeah, sure. No, he had a share of the lead on Saturday. I think like two years ago. And that was whenever we all kind of got back into it. Like, here we go. He's back. And then that's where obviously you saw that video from scratch where Tiger Woods is watching. Everybody talks shit about him.

And then that little smile that he had, I was like, oh, man, that's how those guys operate, by the way. You give them just a little glimmer of a chip to put on their shoulder, it's just like, here we go. Everybody can eat shit. And also, he's got a billion dollars still. And he's got greens and fairways in his backyard. You just run those clips of people talking shit to him in his backyard

over the speakers, I'm sure he's getting in some extra reps. Get that flat stick hot again. What if this is the time where Tiger just goes and wins 45 more fucking times? Very possible. It'd be good for golf. It'd be good for golf if that happens. I was very surprised to see the stat yesterday that that was his first major that he's won when trailing

on Sunday. That was very, very surprising to me. Because he's, what, whenever he gets in a lead, he just never gives it up. But the fact that he'd never come from behind being as dominant as he, that was very, very surprising to me. Because he's, what, whenever he gets in a lead, he just never gives it up. Correct, yeah. But the fact that he'd never come from behind, being as dominant as he was ever, was very, very surprising to me. I've always said this,

that professional golfers lack the competitive gene, right? That's why Tiger Woods came in and dominated, because he was the first one who had the professional athlete competitive gene. Because they're always handshaking afterwards, like, oh, great game. I missed that six-inch putt, which cost me $1.5 million. But but i'm not gonna swear or show any emotion because

ah it's just golf whatever tiger came in and he had that athletic competitive gene where it was like fuck you if it's not you it's you know what i mean he had that killer instinct and you kind of watch that play out on sunday where everybody just knew they were a part of the tiger story it almost felt like francesco molinari knew that he was just a part of a day that was about to happen. Brooks Koepka, Tony Finau. It was almost like everybody was happy for him. Where if I'm the young stud, by the way, I don't know if I'm a golfer and I am a young G. And this old guy comes in and does his thing.

Like, I think I'm taking that personal. Like, no, no, no, this isn't your fucking golf course. You know what I mean? But you don't see that out of any of the young golfers because Tiger's that much of an animal. You know what I mean? Tiger, everybody was happy for him. Everybody shakes his hand.

Tiger is an animal. Zito just did a good call there. Thanks, Zito, for that. But it was, you didn't feel any of that from any of the younger people. It was like, no, no, no. It's not your time anymore. He's also like every one of those guys' idols. Every single one of them looks up to that guy.

So it's probably difficult in their mind to get that type of anger or angst. Think about it. How many of those kids, and I call them kids that are in that thing, would not be playing golf if it wasn't for Tiger Woods? Probably a lot of them. They're watching them on Saturday 10 years ago, 15 years ago. No, that's the country club kids. Foxy, these kids grow up in a golf club.

I would assume Tiger's face is plastered everywhere. Everywhere. He's the guy. He is. He's why you play golf. No one else made golf cool. John Daly is literally the only other guy that made golf cool. That's legit, too.

I can't think of anyone else. I don't know. I wish I would have saw cool. That's legit, too. I can't think of anyone else. But I'm just, I don't know. I wish I would have saw a little bit more fight, though. To your point, though, they were interviewing Koepka right after he was done, and he was saying, I think this is the first of a couple he's going to get here eventually. They're already talking about him winning majors down the road

as opposed to being like, hey, I want to go after this guy and go for his throat. Well, that's the difference, I guess, between the gentleman's game and the games that I play. Yeah, right. You know what I mean? And that's probably why I would never. I did think, and this is me being just the biggest asshole

walking this planet. I was watching that Patrick Cantlie kid play and some other kids play. And I was like, I'd focus on golf for six, seven months. I could beat these. six, seven months. I could beat these. Six, seven months. And there's a golf course right next to my house. I almost drove over there and set up fucking instructions.

Like, I need a coach. I need six, seven months in the morning, just you and me figure this thing out. Teach me how to putt. We got these bums like Patrick Cantlie leading at the fucking thing. That guy looks like he couldn't lift a soap off of that kid looked like he couldn't lift a pencil that was literally one of my first thoughts and i was like years and years and years of practice for these

guys let's have a little bit of respect for what they master's conversation means we have to talk to one man and one man alone yo yo john jd we're excited to listen to the Verizon playback song. I was hoping it was Hit It Hard right there. Oh, I wish I got to get that on there. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a golf champion, a life champion, a country musician, a legend, ladies and gentlemen, John Daly. Yeah. What's up? How about them hogs?

Hey. Woo, saw. No. Woo. Pig. Woo, pig suey. Woo, pig suey. Hey, you're damn right from Arkansas.

Pride of Arkansas, John Daly. You just spent a few days down at the Hooters outside of Augusta. How was your week at Hooters? Master's week is always an eventful week for John Daly. Well, I will tell you this. The scenery was beautiful. Last year, Lady almost killed you and your family. This year, not as

eventful, I hope? No, everything was pretty smooth. I think we only had one little incident that hit the fence and it was just a nub. It wasn't bad. Hey, you went viral in the middle of the Masters for a one-handed putt with a cigarette hanging out of your mouth. What was that all about? Well, the guy wanted to bet me $100, so I said, sure.

So I took his money and went back to selling. How's the family? How's Ana? How's everybody doing there in the daily clan everybody's good little john a week ago sunday shot 66 came back from eight shots and won the tournament i like that a lot he's a stud um will you be his caddy one day, or is that something where you just kind of stay hands-off as a dad? No, I'll let him do his own thing. I don't like it when they push the kids because they don't want it as much.

Little John wants it so bad, and I can see it in his eyes and the way he practices and the way he plays. It's just so much fun to watch. Do you think when Little John's playing in the PGA, Tiger Woods will still be playing? There's a possibility, yeah. How did you feel as a legend in the golf world? We talked about this earlier today.

You and Tiger Woods were the two people instrumental to bringing in America into loving golf. You watching Tiger Woods make that run he just made, what did that feel like as a fellow golfer? Well, it just shows you that he's back. And, you know, I idolize Jack Nicklaus, but you know what? I've seen, hey, this is a generation of breaking records. The Bambino curse for the Red Sox. The Cubs finally won the World Series. Tiger Woods is going to break Jack Nicklaus' records. I'd love to see him do it, to be honest with you.

I think it's just great for the sport. Did you watch the way he played the 18th hole, and did that surprise you as much as it surprised me? He kind of laid up, kind of took his foot off the gas, did it in a strategic, smart manner. Or do you think that's just good, smart golf? Smart golf. I left right after he

made par on 17 to beat the traffic, but I said, just make your bogey and win. That's all he had to do. Hey, it don't matter. As long as you win by one or a hundred, as long as you pick up that trophy. How are you hitting them right now? Are you playing pretty well? I haven't really been playing. I had my

meniscus cut out about a month ago. Last week, well, we were in Mississippi, so it's been about five weeks. That was my third week on it. I finished eighth in Mississippi, so it's coming around. What younger golfer do you look at and you say, you know what, this guy could be the next guy for the sport of golf to kind of carry on? Brooks Koepka seems to be a guy who's very hot right now. Dustin Johnson hits the ball a long fucking way. who's the younger guy that you're like you know

what the golf can rely on his shoulders for the next 20 years whenever uh tiger's done it's hard to say because dustin and you know tiger and rory and all these guys are kind of still dominating so they're still young enough to still be that guy but is there going to be another tiger woods i don't think i'm going to see it in my lifetime um it's just amazing how he wins golf tournaments not really hitting his driver that straight and that just shows you what how creative he is getting out of trouble and making cuts when he has to it's just amazing to watch. I'm playing in Lake Tahoe in July in that pro-am. What are some things I need to work on after watching me golf?

You're not a professional golfer, Pat. Who cares? Shoot you 110 and have a good time. John, I appreciate you so much. I need to see you again. We all miss you. We hope life is beautiful, and I'll talk to you soon. You got it, baby. I appreciate you so much. I need to see you again. We all miss you. We hope life is beautiful, and I'll talk to you soon. You got it, baby.

I love you. Hey, love you too, man. Have a good one. Ladies and gentlemen, he hit it hard, man. Hard. John Daly, thank you so much. You can have your Tiger moment in Tahoe. Yeah, we're talking.

I'm serious. Because I, like many others, I don't know about you guys, I didn't lay any money on Tiger. I had this guy, that guy, this guy, this guy. Love that Tiger's in it, but he's just not going to finish at the end. I'm sure I wasn't alone with everybody's thinking. Same thing with you at Tahoe. There's no way.

There's no way anybody thinks. First time in the tournament, the 13 handicap. No one, no one will pick you. You know, a lot of those people, by the way, that handicap is just completely made up. I don't have it. How do you make a handicap? You've got to play a certain amount of rounds

and report to the state and all this shit. I had one at one point. Very, very, very low. The state gives you a handicap? It's probably a lot lower than 13. No, so you put your scores in. I had one around the two. The state gives you a handicap, Zito.

Golf handicap is different than human handicap that you have. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a hospital thing. It's like a state thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, it's a golf thing. So if you have a 13 handicap, that means you shoot 13 over par on average.

85 right now, which in my head, I was like, if I was to go golf tomorrow, I think I would probably shoot it. Yeah, that honestly seems right. That was probably where I was at. But back when I was really golfing, I was at like a a two like a 1.82 or something like that which is incredible yeah it's very fucking good yeah yeah me and aq shipley were playing like fucking three times a day though dropping 74s all over he wasn't married first i wasn't there was a first time and you guys aren't playing pub golf courses yeah exactly you're playing real golf yeah well we're playing gci gci

just used to just let us do whatever we wanted up there, Golf Club of Indiana. Very, very nice of them. But I'm just hoping I can tap into that from years ago whenever we get to Tahoe. Just let me tap into that. Sure you can. You'll be able to do it.

What are you worried about most in terms of your game? Sure. If you can make putts. So Sam, I think, is buying me a little putting thing for the house. Nice. You need to get the flat stick. Today, I think she's buying that today. So that should be in the house tonight where it's this place, Kin Relaxed.

It's a store here in town. And they have this thing. I think it's like 30, 40 feet long where you can fix the undulations. Sweet. Yeah, so I think Sam is going to go buy that today. So I'm going to start working on the undulations. Oh, that's sweet. Yeah, so I think Sam's going to go buy that today. So I'm going to start working on the putter. My driver, I feel good with my driver.

The only thing is if it gets tight, I can't draw on demand. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. Command, I guess. I can't draw on command. So I should be able to figure that one out, which I think is just keep the elbow tighter i think is what people say but the the 130 in is going to be something because if you watch that golf you literally have to put it too close if you want to score right so that's where i'm gonna

have to get vicious at where to be honest i don't know where i'm gonna practice that at your backyard yeah but i don't know if like hitting off turf and then hitting off grass. Yeah, right, right, yeah. Two very, very different things. You've got to find the grass. You've got to go to a range and just hit off grass. Or you've got to just talk to that golf course and ask them at, like, 7 o'clock at night, sun's still out, not many people out there.

You just post up, 1.30 out, and you're just firing balls into greens. That is probably what I need. Like, 1.50 and in. Yeah, that's the move. That's the big move. I think the putter will get hot if I have that thing in my house. I think the driver will always be there. And if my driver's there, that means the 150 and in is all I need.

Right. Because I do hit the ball far. Exactly. So that is going to be my big weakness, the 150 and in. Did you buy that grip for your putter yet? The Super Stroke? Oh, yeah. No, I have not.

You need that one. What did he say? 13 million people have that? Super Stroke had a commercial during the Masters, and I think it, I have not. You need that. What did he say? 13 million people have that? Superstroke had a commercial during the Masters, and I think it said 13 million people. It's great. I'm like, oh, Superstroke. I'm like, what a flex that was right there.

Join the 13 million other people. I'm like, wow, how much are those? How much are you? Is it the big fat one? Yeah, the big fat. Because it takes your wrists out of it, I guess. It just makes you have bigger. Like a grandfather clock swinging.

You better touch. That's how I would I. There was some really impressive putting happening this weekend. On those greens, that's stupid, too. When they would do those flat shots where the camera was right next to the green, you're looking at the undulation of them. I mean, for hacks like us, we're throwing up 110. I mean, on a good day on that course.

It literally looked like putt-putt. Oh, because he was facing this way. I think it was Brooks Kepka. The hole was behind him and he just rolled it like four feet and then it just took an immediate left.

I'm like, holy shit. That's unbelievable. I love that, though. That's my kind of golf. Yeah, me too. I think I do, too. I love it. Except this weekend there was dirt on your green. Yeah, not quite the golf. Yeah, me too. I think I do too. I love it. Except this weekend

there was dirt on your green. Not quite the same. I'll be excited to see how I do out at that time of the tourney. July something. July something. We get a lot of time. That weekend. 9 to the 14th. We get nothing but 10.

I was watching that thing and I was like, man, every shot they really see. And then I'll see one shitty one and I'm like, man, every shot they really see. And then I'll see one shitty one. I'm like, yeah, I hit those too. Mentally, come on. We can get there. Because all it is is mental. That's all it is, I feel like.

Well, when we were in Arizona after the first nine, you were dialed in. Yeah, come on. Get that first nine out of the way. Those first nine holes that were tough. Just a warm-up. We'll get a practice round. We'll get a practice round. Yeah, get a practice round.

Get a couple of those in. But I'm going to have to play a practice round before the round starts the same day though to get the shot warm. It's at altitude, by the way, too. Ball's going further. So I definitely have to work 150 and in there. We are in the mountains. Driver will get me there. I just have to get it to 150 and below.

And that 150 you have left is really like a 135 shot. Or the P. Bring out the P out there. Bring out the pitch. Be a 135 shot. Yeah, or the P. Bring out the P out there. Bring out the pitch. The unduffable. Hey, May 2nd. The unduffable might make an appearance out there.

That thing almost got thrown out in the fucking street with the methods. This was about a week ago. I bought the unduffable from the Golf Channel about 3 a.m. Told me eliminate all my duffs from my chipping game. I've used it in the office here. There's a lot of duffs left in that bag. There's a lot of duffs left in that bag. And for the golf nerds, it's a 65-degree wedge, so it makes sense why he's duffing it a couple times.

Yeah, but it clearly said unduffable, and I've duffed a few times. Incorrect. Todd duffed that thing, too. A lot of duffs. Triple duff. Todd's weird. You can put unduffable on anything. A lot of duffs. Triple duff. Todd's weird. You can put it on duffable on anything. I'll duff it.

I mean, I'm a duffer by trade. King duff. Yeah. King duff. I loved watching it though. Sam even enjoyed it, I think. I passed out for a little bit. I think Sam even enjoyed watching golf there for a minute.

And it was just like such a cool thing to do. It was awesome that we got up and it was at 9 a. bit. I think Sam even enjoyed watching golf there for a minute. And it was just like such a cool thing to do. It was awesome that we got up and it was at 9am. Exactly. I didn't have to wait till 3. So you guys liked it. I loved it. It was perfect. Because I don't think I ever watched the old way. Like had my entire schedule set up to what this whole thing

this whole weekend especially. We came out of 14 straight days of work. And it was about I was about to lose of 14 straight days of work and it was about i was about to lose it to be honest with you i was about done with everything literally i'm gonna shut the shop down for like a month and a half like fuck it let's figure out something else to do i'm done with it so this weekend i was very much looking forward to the masters helping me like i was like okay i'm gonna have a weekend with the masters just kind of turn the body off for a minute and then waking up and it just being right into the thing was fucking beautiful.

It was just like London when they play the games in London. Because typically, like, Tiger wouldn't have teed off until, like, 245, 3 o'clock, without the inclement weather coming in. Well, and did the weather ever come? I mean, it rained there towards the end, but I don't think the afternoon was what they thought it was. Like, whenever we had coach training camp, our PR guy somehow became the weatherman. He'd be like, got a huge storm coming, better move practice up.

We're like, all right, we're practicing inside. It's going to be early, so inside means for me nothing because the roof isn't big enough. So me, Vinatieri, over it, and we're all basically just out of doing anything and then the soon as the practice ends you walk outside and it's just like fucking bright shiny 88 degrees outside and i'm like oh the storm must have blown over oh it must have blown over hey it didn't get much better your buddy troy is the weatherman over there now he calls it to the head coach. Troy's the greatest. Troy is the groundskeeper for the Indianapolis Colts, and he is exactly in your head how you're thinking he is.

That is exactly what he is. The head groundskeeper for an NFL team is just as hilarious as you can imagine, just like the equipment managers, just like everything like that. Speaking of the NFL, OTAs are kicking back off for a lot of people. A lot of teams are back in business, back to work. Russell Wilson holding the Seattle Seahawks a little bit hostage there. Kind of an interesting move. That's not very much a Russell Wilson move in my eyes. No, it's a Sierra move.

Well, the rumor is now, too. I think it's Sierra and the agents. Well, wasn't the last time he was in a contract negotiation, he didn't sign it to one of the last possible days he had? I don't know. I think so, but he never threatened that he wanted to leave or anything. No, but not that. Yeah, now the word's out of the bag.

But I don't think he has ever said anything, right? No, you're right about that. Russell Wilson has never said anything. It's always the people around him. He was on Jimmy Fallon. Jimmy Fallon asked him if he wanted to be in New York, blah, blah, blah. Hey, I want to be in New York. And he responded with

like yeah it'd be cool but i'm a seahawk now he's always deterred any of the drama but it's all getting spun up and kind of twisted behind the scenes i think it might get a little bit ugly over there and pete carroll by the way not a great track record with his star players i mean earl thomas literally flipped him off said that he was flipping him off on the way out. Richard Sherman, the Legion of Boom, they all hate him. Pete Carroll basically banked on Russell Wilson being the future of the Seahawks, and now it all might come crashing down. Pete Carroll probably just retired, probably see his ass at Lake Tahoe.

That guy doesn't have much more to fucking prove in the football world, especially if you lose your stud quarterback. Can't Russell Wilson, though, like you said, it's not him personally saying it, but you're saying it's the agent. But he could shut that down, though, if he wanted to. He could come out and get, which I'm assuming, by the way, his first media session that's going to happen at these OTAs because he's the starting quarterback for the team.

He's going to have to step up there. They're going to ask him how his offseason went, how everything went, this, how's this, how's this. And obviously some reporter's going to be like, what happened with the deadline? And I russell wilson will have a beautiful finesse yeah and just get out of there and end it with go hawks at the end of it i assume he won't answer at all but i think his team is very much looking forward to him getting in a much bigger city under brighter lights so he can continue to do everything that russell wilson wants to do

dancing videos and shit like you you have have talked about how you don't need a high-paid quarterback to win the Super Bowl. Would you, preferably, as the GM of the Seattle Seahawks, trade him instead of paying him $100 million a year? Dan Orlovsky had an incredible... Actually, I'm going to ask Dan Orlovsky if he'll call right now. This is behind the scenes.

Dan Orlovsky, what's up right now. This is behind the scenes. Hey, what's up, Jim? You got 10 minutes? I have anything you need. Can you call my show and talk about Russell Wilson? Of course. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is the man I just mentioned. He was a quarterback in the NFL for a long, long time. Now he's one of the best brains on TV when it comes to foosball.

He's handsome. He went to the University of Connecticut. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky. What up, what up, what up, what up, what up? Dan, I have a question for you. What up? We were just talking about the Russell Wilson situation, and I read a tweet that you put out earlier

about Russell Wilson's stats and all read a tweet that you put out earlier about Russell Wilson's stats and all these things that he's accomplished. And I think the question is, is Russell Wilson worth the cosmic contract that he's going to have to get paid to stay in Seattle to make the Seahawks a contender? And after reading your stats, it makes me think that he is a guy that should be paid with the same respects as all the other big name guys am i correct absolutely he's absolutely worth the contract i mean you have to look at it when like when teams are forced to pay or come to the decision making of like all right do i pay this quarterback because that's what it comes down to

i pay this quarterback this much money and if i, does he make up for the three or four other players that I may not be able to sign because of that? Is he good enough to make up for that? And Russell Wilson is a guy that not only is, but has shown that he is. Like he's a guy that has shown I don't need the great receivers. I don't need the great tight end. I don't need the great running end. I don't need the great running back. We don't have to have all that. I'm good enough to overcome that. I mean, statistically, he has had the worst offensive line in the NFL over the last eight years.

The worst, yet still has every season he's been there has at least 10 wins, but one, and that season they had nine enough said okay so a lot of people would say myself included that a way to win in the modern nfl is have a quarterback on a rookie contract and build up around that quarterback with a lot of money going elsewhere i would assume the same type of thing happened in seattle when they had the legion of boom and russell wilson on his rookie contract. Are the Seattle Seahawks in a better place to get a younger, cheaper quarterback and build the team around it? Or watch Russell Wilson get paid in New York or somewhere else and watch them have to deal with the domino effect of that much of a salary cap hit going towards one player?

You better pay Russell Wilson. Here's the thing. That is the, right now, like that's the convenient narrative for teams to say or for fans to say is like, just get a cheap quarterback and pay everybody else. A couple things on that. There is a vastly different reality between a cheap quarterback and a quarterback who's really good that happens to be cheap.

We've seen a lot of cheap quarterbacks. It doesn't mean your team is going to be good. Look at the Denver Broncos. They've had some cheap quarterbacks over the past couple years, but they still have good players. Vaughn Miller, Chris Harris, Demarius Thomas for a while, a couple good offensive pieces. They're not good.

They don't have a quarterback. That is the misnomer. Second thing is this. It's the convenient thing to say that, but Russell Wilson's been in the NFL for eight years. Seattle was the first team to really do that, to do the cheap quarterback, let's pay everybody else. If it's so successful, why have only two teams been good at it? Because at the end of the day, it's pay everybody else. If it's so successful, why have only two teams been good at it? Because at the end of the day, it's to win the championship, right? It's not to get to 10 and 6. Seattle's done it. Philadelphia's done it. Every other team that's done it has not accomplished the ultimate goal. They may have gotten better, but my thing is this. If you do that as an

organization, it sends two messages. One, you're setting yourself up for the vicious cycle. Because let's say Seattle moves on from Russell Wilson, trades him, and Seattle drafts Drew Locke. And Drew Locke becomes what they hope he becomes, a really good starting quarterback in the NFL. Four years from now, you're forced with the same decision. Do we pay Drew Locke, or do we go try to find another quarterback? And then also, what are you telling people in your organization? Like, hey, once you become really good, we're not going to pay you. No one's going to buy into that.

So it's not as simple as we kind of make it sound nowadays. I would argue that the Seahawks did tell people that already, that no matter how good you get, you're going to have to get paid elsewhere. The Rams, I think, had a successful way of, but I think the Rams might only be successful because of Sean McVay and they're pulling the strings with a quarterback who is also cheap. Is that something that if you're going to be a team

that has a younger, cheaper quarterback and build up around it, you need the offensive whiz kid to pull the strings behind the young quarterback? And is every young head coach that's getting hired because they're an offensive wizard going to have the same success as sean mcveigh dude i have a job at espn because i was in camp for six weeks with the rams so like anybody anybody tied to mcveigh is good like no they're not all going to have success like here's the

thing as sean mcveigh's brilliant but he But as great of a play caller he is, he's much better of a leader. Like, people are just saying, like, oh, he's really good at play calling. He's an incredible leader. And don't sleep on the fact, Pat, like, that year they went. They got Robert Woods. They drafted Cooper Cupp. They drafted Whitworth. They kept Saffold.

They had Sue come in. They got a key. Like, they also went and got really good players too that helps uh so I don't expect to see the Matt LaFleur's or Zach Taylor's go and become these we're not going to have a bunch of Bill Walsh's like it's not calling plays is like playing quarterback in the NFL there's not that many of around so I um you know right now we're in this you know uh everybody likes the oom bop song and it's the fad but it's it's there's just not that many people that are great at it

oom bop was a heater uh cliff kingsbury you didn't even mention i'll assume that he's gonna suck in dan orlovsky's eyes um what is your he's the only coach that i like think could really challenge my hair so hey he's a handsome son of a bitch what do you think no doubt um what do you oh jesus he is isn't he i mean aq shipley who's friend of the show said that he's a grinder too in early out late that whole thing what is your end game orlovsky everybody knows lewis riddick is attempting to become a gm somewhere john gruden became a head coach you break down film on tv better than any other human i've ever seen it are you thinking about one day getting into the coaching world or the general managing world or are you just

uh content at yelling at people and mourning espn television yeah no no dude i have no intentions of of getting into coaching right now or general managing right now. Like I've got a young family. I'm able to be at home, be a dad. I'm like, aren't you? I kind of like you're saying, dude, like, aren't you like work hard, enjoy life, cash checks, all that. Like I'm just into that mode where like just work really hard, be really good at what you do, make good money, make fun of people,

come on really cool shows. Laugh more, hate less, work hard, cash checks. Dude, I love it checks dude i love it like i love it i think you should start like an apparel line and put that on a shirt okay we have a merch line we'll write that down we'll have the orlovsky collection it'll be uh hey when are you and i gonna be on get up together man dude you go on get i'm on get up literally every day and somehow i get a day off if pat mcafee shows up so i don't i think there's some internal stuff going on like hey espn i'd love to get a shot i'd get up just make sure our lofts he's not on too many white people i think that's too many white people you know what i mean you gotta do what you gotta do that's a valid

valid point who's a sleeper pick this year to win it all? Obviously, everybody knows the Cleveland Browns are building up a monster in Cleveland. Freddie Kitchens seems to be the right guy to kind of manage all those personalities. The Raiders have made some big-time plays here in the offseason. You've got the Jets picking up Lev Bell, who could potentially help the young quarterback figure out his way

in the city of big lights. The Patriots are still the Patriots. Tom Brady just took confetti out of his goddamn helmet just a week ago getting back started. Who's a team that's really going to surprise some people this year in Dan Orlovsky's eyes? Yeah, I mean the Colts. No, I do love the Colts. But listen, I'll give you two teams that I don't necessarily know or get talked about enough. Tennessee Titans.

The Titans are going, like, first of all, their defense is very good. It's only going to get better. And they added Cam Wake. That is a nice addition to a defense that is nasty. Another year under Vince Grable. They also added Roger Sappel, that guard. And that offensive line

is going to physically assault people every week. Derrick Henry is going to be 700 pounds by September running over people's faces. So I think Tennessee's got a chance to be pretty good just because playing that style of football. In the NFC, I took them last year and it was a bad decision, but I think the Falcons can regroup if they get healthy.

I really do. They're so talented on offense. Dirk Cutter, they're going to score 30 a game. That defense being healthygroup if they get healthy. I really do. They're so talented on offense. Dirk Cutter, they're going to score 30 a game. That defense being healthy, if they hit their draft, Atlanta will be really good again too. Okay, so I've had this thought about Matt Ryan since we played him in Atlanta. They had a Hail Mary to end the game, and he was 20 yards short of the end zone.

Is Matt Ryan a guy that can lead the Atlanta Falcons to a Super Bowl? You mean like two years ago type stuff? Yeah, like to win it, though. He literally led them. I mean, they had a 28-3 lead in the Super Bowl two years ago. We all know what had happened there. They didn't win it. And Julio Jones, again, did not report.

Julio Jones, again, did not report, but a Super Bowl victory. Like, are the Atlanta Falcons with Matt Ryan able to go and win the Super Bowl yet again after that 28-3 situation, or are they going to have to hit the reset button down there in Atlanta? No, no, no, no, no. Matt Ryan's got like six to eight really good years left playing quarterback. He's plenty good enough to win a Super Bowl in Atlanta, absolutely. He's handsome, too. I'm a big Matt Ryan guy. He's plenty good enough to win a Super Bowl in Atlanta. Absolutely. He's handsome, too. I'm a big Matt Ryan guy. He could hit

a golf ball now. He can hit a smush a golf ball. Is he going to be in that Lake Tahoe tournament? That already happened, I believe. No, it didn't. Or maybe that was the AT&T. I would imagine he's playing Tahoe. He could smush it.

Okay. Well, I'm going to have to beat him. Got a question. Dan, real quick. Flacco, does he kind of get his career back on track in Denver? Or are you burying him? No, I don't see that. You know, Joe Flacco is being dead honest. He's been an average quarterback outside of one Super Bowl run.

Statistically, he's an average quarterback. And so I don't sit here and going oh man all of a sudden going to denver also you know i know denver's got some young promising talent like courtland sutton at receiver or whatnot but they're struggling uh offensive line is that going to be better is munchak going to get them better i don't see flackle all of a sudden be going oh my gosh he's a 30 touchdown eight interception, 8-interception guy. He's probably going to throw 24 touchdowns and 14 interceptions. Your brain is so good, Orlovsky. Not like that type of – I'm talking football.

Let me get it. I mean, Jesus. Let's get out of here. I have four kids. Yeah, yeah. They're probably going to listen to this show. That's on me, man. That's on me.

I'm so thankful for you, Dan. You really do crush it on ESPN. You're always a joy to watch, man. I appreciate you so much. You're the best, brother. All right. Have a good one, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, Dan. You really do crush it on ESPN. You're always a joy to watch, man. I appreciate you so much. You're the best, brother. All right, have a good one. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan. Thank you, Dan.

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that I hate Russell Wilson. You hate him as a person? As a person. But I do think he is a really good quarterback and that they probably should pay him. His people want him out of Seattle. Is that because of the East Coast bias, I'd assume? Is that why?

I assume she wants to live in New York. Sierra? Yes. So you think this is 100% because of Sierra? A thousand percent. But those two together in New York. That's a tough team together in New York. Being one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.

He also wants to be on the Yankees. He has a massive ego. He wants to play in a bigger market. Jesus. Go Hawks, bro. Go Hawks. You think that's what it is? I think that's a huge part of it, yeah.

He wants a little bit more shine because Legion of Boom back in the day, he was everywhere whenever they were winning everything. Now Seattle is very far away from everything that isn't Seattle. I mean, that is a – I mean, Seattle to New York, what, a six-hour, seven-hour flight? I mean, that is not even being talked about. Other than Starbucks was started there. Seahawks are good.

Their fan base is insane good fishing good fishing okay there we go there's fish out there it's always raining canada's right there yeah a lot of good views it's not really talked about as a a destination place for players so that could be something that seahawks are gonna have to battle with for a long time too if they lose their star quarterback because he doesn't want to live there anymore that could have a ripple effect would you blame him though because when you watch him play like the the game is all on him like 100 it's third down all right i'm gonna have to run another first down or the stripes but i will say this he's looking to go to the giants i mean you got saquon in the back there that'll help you out a lot a a lot. Eli Manning hasn't looked great over the last couple years,

and they just shipped out one of the best wide receivers in the game to Cleveland. But having Saquon in the backfield is quite something to lean on. The fact that it almost just feels like everybody on the Internet knows that Russell Wilson's going to the Giants. It just feels as if everybody's like, today is the final day that Russell Wilson told the Seahawks to work out a long-term contract or he's going to the New York Giants.

It's not like he's going to test free agency. It's like, or he's going to the New York Giants. This is like Gronkowski's agents. He's thinking about retiring for a lucrative acting career. It's like Russell Wilson, you don't get him a long-term deal. He's going right to the motherfucking New York Giants. We all know it.

It's like they have to put that out too because the Giants are probably going to think about drafting a quarterback next week. So now Russell Wilson's people have to play like two steps ahead. Hey, let's not get too high on that draft pick over there because when old Uncle Russ comes flying into town, our free agency,

we don't want to have to make any crazy decisions then either. The NFL never stops, man. Never. Tiger Woods owned the weekend. NBA playoffs are happening right now, by the way. That's all happening. NHL playoffs are happening. It's about to be over though. One more game, NHL playoffs are over.

Good season, man. Good season. Like you said, though. Yeah, you reversed the curse. I reversed the curse this weekend. Hey, look at me. I reversed the curse this weekend. Let's go. Yeah. Hey. Hey, look at me.

Hey. I was happy for you in that regard. That I reversed the curse? Yeah, because then that's something else you don't have to carry that weight on your shoulders. You know, you can sleep easy at night. For those that are wondering, the Pittsburgh Penguins were playing during the Masters. I had two TVs, no big deal. I live well.

Wow. And one on the Penguins game. One on the Masters. I had two TVs, no big deal. I live well. Wow. One on the Penguins game. One on the Masters. Next to each other. Same. One below the other. So it was one above the other. Oh, wow.

Masters was much larger than the Penguin game. It was kind of a smaller one because we're down 2-0 at the time. And right before the puck dropped, I almost put out a tweet. Almost. I almost said, Pens don't lose three in a row. Not in the playoffs. Not this team. Not a team that I've been watching. But I decided, I thought of Nick.

I thought of AQ. I get death texts from AQ Shipley after I put out those tweets, and the Pens lose. Like, this is your fault, you fucking asshole. Like, why did you have to do it? Nick sends me GIFs of, like, literally the most terrible things making me feel bad about myself. So I thought about it.

I had it all typed up, and I just deleted it. I was like, you know what? I don't want this today. I don't want this smoke on the internet today. They go on to loose. As soon as that game's over, I had one sitting in the barrel. I didn't tweet that the pens were a lock today.

And they lost. The curse has officially been reversed. Been following this team all season, every period, every shift. They won't lose again. Go ahead and lock that up. So I would like you to know, after my deep, deep, deep dive into the analytics of this team, I've been watching every period, every shift of the playoffs,

of every single skate session that they've had since the playoffs started. I have seen this team go through everything that they need to go through since the playoffs started. I don't think they will lose again. I think they go undefeated from here on out. The Islanders got no shot at all. They might not score again, by the way. Matt Murray's about to stand on his goddamn head. Sidney Crosby, who gave zero effort,

zero effort in a video that was sent to me, isn't going to let that be on film ever again. Phil Kessel's looking thinner than he's ever looked. He hasn't had hot dogs in a couple weeks. He's feeling good. Gino Malkin is getting a little feisty. Chris Letang's hair is flowing unlike any other time I've ever seen before. The Penguins will not lose again.

Go ahead and lock it up. Lord Stanley's coming home to Pittsburgh. Let's go! Let's go! Great value. Very thankful that the curse has been reversed. I'm happy I can say that now. Good job.

And I have 100% confidence that that's going to happen. Am I right saying this, Nick? Four teams have come back from a 3-0 deficit to win the series? Yeah. Only four? In the history of the league? The 100-year-old league? Let's go. Five, baby. Let's go. One for the thumb. One for the thumb.

There you go, Pens. I can't believe the Penguins are going to do that. Good for them. Good for the Pens. Plus 800. Lock it in. Out of all the locks you've given, this one is the most locked this one in the most. This is lock it up. It's the tightest.

Well, the curse has been reversed. So, I mean, you got to do what you got to do. The curse is reversed. The curse is reversed. That Long Island team looks good, though. They do look good. They look very fucking good. They're skating.

They are skating, aren't they? They're just skating circles around the Pittsburgh Penguins. But not anymore. Not anymore. Anybody else in the NHL playoffs look impressive? Tampa doesn't. One of the teams that had this historic run, maybe one of the best regular seasons in the past 20 years,

and they're just getting their asses kicked all over the ice. Columbus, man. Columbus out there up 3-0. Somebody tweeted me and said, Michael on the podcast said that the Columbus Blue Jackets were going to be good. So they wanted me to thank Michael. Oh, thanks, Mike. Thanks, Mike. Good job, Mike.

We could have used that hint when we were putting bets in. No, he makes pretty good picks. Michael? Yeah. Yeah, Michael's locked in. I'm happy. By the way, I took that credit from the guy. I was like, yeah, that's why we have brains from all over.

I think he was talking about when we had Frances on and he said the jackets had a couple guys who could skate for you. Okay. Now listen. The blue jackets got a couple guys who could skate. Okay.

They may not win. They may get swept, but they got a couple guys. I skate. Okay. Okay. Okay. They may not win. They may get swept, but they got a couple guys. I think I might be on Mike's on soon. Oh, that was fucking awesome. The world ain't ready. I have no idea what will happen between me and Francis. Because I honestly, just like Alex Jones, I view him just as a character. And I don't know if that's how he is. I don't know if that's.

I'm just now learning about this Francesa character. Well, it's really started to blow open here recently because back after this, the Funhaus account has now Francesa's responding to it saying, you know, everyone knows that guy, Dr. Clips. What about you saying

Tiger had a nil chance to win the Masters? I never said that. I never said that. I never said that. I'm excited. I got a text from Mondo. Yeah, Mondo tweeted me or whatever. I guess he's part of it.

I'm just learning about the Francesa world. But, boy, what have I been missing? They made a 30 for 30 about the man. Don't forget. No way. Yeah, Mike and the Mad Dog. Him and Mad Dog, yeah. Mad Dog just has that stoic look on MLB Channel channel every day that guy looks like he he looks like gorman in like

10-15 years from now a bunch of why he's a little more like a wiry more wiry a little bit but like 10-15 years from now let's say your nutrition goes insane well yeah but by the way he really does but he has this look where he's just like very professional. He always has like a Gorman collection shirt on. But when he speaks, though, that's a different story. You got anything? No, I'm still working on him. Speaking of, one of my favorite impressions from last week was Lou Holtz. Ty, is Coach Lou Holtz here again?

Hey, Pat, I just called Lou Holtz in the Hey Pat I just called Lou Holtz In the building I love the Pat McPhister Okay alright I've been told by Birdie that there's Another Lou Holtz in the building Lou Holtz if you could please join us

Which one is it the Coaching Lou Holtz or is it the post coaching Post coaching ESPN Lou Holtz or is it the post-coaching career? Post-coaching ESPN Lou Holtz. Lou Holtz. Hey, listen. Listen. That's a good football team, okay? I love their head coach, Mac Taylor, and I go back many years.

I remember one time we were playing down there in the swamp, and I just came up and I said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, nooltz, when he's trying to, there are three things that we need to get successful today. Any American, any human being has to do to be successful today. One, get on your knees each morning and thank the dear Lord. Number two. I mean, he's that guy.

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are a good football team we'll start what stays in this locker room will stay in this locker room. Can you ask us, you guys playing cornhole? What's the games you guys have in this locker room? This is my locker room. This is your locker room. You make it up yourself.

You got a bag in your hand. You're throwing the hole. What are these kids doing? Foxy and I hung out with Lou Holtz. Oh, yeah. Just last year, I think. The wildest Christmas party of all time. Of all time.

Those people are just swimming in money. Oh, my God. The way this one company that has Lou Holtz on their board of advisors, and they had this Christmas party. It was like 3 o'clock in the afternoon. Most insane shit I've ever been a part of in my life. These people are just shitting out money. They paid me a shit ton

of money to be there. It was absurd. I had no idea it was in Indiana. It was wild, but Lou Holtz talked to the... Everybody there was drunk. Hammered. Everybody there was hammered drunk at 3 in the afternoon. Lou Holtz, who loves the Lord, just was obviously paid to be there.

And he got up there and tried to give them a speech about how the next year was going to be their best year. And it was just not well received. I was just looking around like, not a single person is listening to Lou Holder. And I gave him like, oh boy, Lou. And you had him do the bumblebee thing.

I did. That bumblebee thing is my favorite thing about it. It made me believe that I could do a lot of things that I can't do because bumblebee isn't supposed to fly. That's right. What a great line great line anything else happen Game of Thrones okay here we go I thought about it and thought about watching it I did not I I stepped away strictly because I wanted to hear the Throners' thoughts in the room on how it was and whether or not I should invest the next, what, month and a half into watching these Sundays.

Correct. Because this has been a two-year hiatus now, right? Oh, yeah. So nobody could have guessed if it was going to come back worth a shit or not. In your eyes, as Throners, we'll go around the room. Todd, you and I are not Throners. No, we are not. Gorman, you're not a Throner as well.

Foxy, you are not a Throner. Nope. But everybody else in the room is diehard Game of Thrones. And I didn't want to invest the 17-minute YouTube video beforehand, then the next month and a half, until I heard initial thoughts from the Throners in the room after a two-year hiatus going into the final season how did you guys feel it went great amazing you loved it 50 50 it was all right yeah okay hold on

hold on hold on so we got two cult followers that are just down for whatever happens i think in digs and zito it was great it was amazing yeah which by the way the internet said amazing the internet was on your side now we have nick who, who's an eternal pessimist, realist, and... Cynic. He has a tattoo on his body as well. A Game of Thrones tattoo on his body. He's also a book guy, too, by the way. Yeah, he's read the books.

And Connor, you said 50-50. You were also noted throner. Why did you say 50-50? Well, you know, going into it, I wanted death, death, death, which I understand. It's six episodes. You know, you've got to take the plane off, and you've got to land the plane.

But, you know, we didn't get any killing. We got a little bit of dragons. We got Jon Snow riding a dragon. That's probably the peak of the episode. Yeah, I saw the internet. Love Jon Snow hopping on the back of his avatar. Yeah, yeah. Do they have the same name?

He's named after the dragon. Well, then he boned his aunt, right? His father. That was last season. We didn't even get any aunt boning in this season yet. Okay, so... Zito, you said... It was implied. It was implied, yep. Nick, why did you not love it? I just thought it was, it felt like a five-year-old high school reunion.

It's just like, it was all the characters meeting up with each other, kind of like setting up and explaining where they've been, what's been happening with each other, which you had to do, obviously. But I felt like there could have been one or two more things thrown in there to kind of liven it up a little bit. Yes. Does it seem as if it, now Ty, you're a diehard throner as well. Does it seem as if it's setting up for massive amounts of action to pop off here in the next couple weeks? Yeah, big time.

I think last night was solely for fan service for all the people who wanted to see some of their favorite characters get back together and everything. Was Ed Sheeran in there? He was not. Surprisingly. They did confirm that he's still alive though. In the Game of Thrones world Ed Sheeran is still surviving. What if that motherfucker's the last one on the throne?

What if Ed Sheeran is the last one on the throne? I know nothing about it. Somebody can't fire. Yeah, he's got his little guitar. The club is the best place to find love. It's where I go. Me and some friends.

They killed all these motherfuckers. They call it Game of Thrones. Now where's my bitches? All my bitches. They can get my bone. Cause I'm Ed Sheeran King of the fucking throne. Ed Sheeran My name's

well known. That'd be great. I wonder if that's gonna happen. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. It felt kind of like Avengers, where not everyone always gets along, but they have to come together. And it was basically them showing the meeting. It's a show that's based on killing and death and betrayal.

And that one felt just like there's such this feel good. Like, oh, let's fly around on our dragons. We're all having fun now. I know. Movies. Like I said, it was all right. They will follow you let's fly around on our dragons. There's four episodes coming. We're all having fun now. I know. Movies. Like I said, it was all right. They will follow you,

Jon Snow. They will follow you. The white haired lady that loves dragons. Don't be like, Sean Connery's in the next episode. Don't be like this young generation that needs fucking action

like John Wick every single, I love John Wick. No, that's not what it is. And again, I'm 50-50 like I said, but I'm more teetering towards the edge

that I liked it. I think they delivered the second half of the episode. Watch it again. Yeah, I'm going to watch it again probably four or five more times, but they opened a little slow. Well, yeah, some of these characters haven't seen each other for seven years. I said it wasn't bad. I said it was all right.

So that's going to grow into something awesome. I should dive into the 17-minute YouTube and then catch up is what you're saying? Yeah. All right, cool. Something monumental is about to happen. I can't wait for that. Game of Thrones is going to be incredible. Huge shout, cool. Something monumental is about to happen. I can't wait for that. Game of Thrones is going to be incredible.

Huge shout out to Dan Orlovsky calling us. Also, John Daly who called in earlier today. Big thankful to him. And to everybody listening at home, we can't thank you enough

for choosing to listen to this dumbass show. We can't thank you enough. The pub fine decision on whether or not it's been cut in half due to X amount of shirts being sold will be decided uh today on social media at some point also as announced on my

twitter last night six cities um we'll be touring six cities in june um if you can guess all six you will win a free vip to the uh city nearest you free vip experience look at you which is backstage uh with us probably ping pong or cornhole uh have a couple of drinks with us and then go enjoy the show with your friends or whoever you're with uh that contest got launched last night so go ahead and tweet us hashtag end game endgame. We are coming to six cities. If you can guess six of the six cities, you win VIP treatment at the city nearest you for our show. You're the absolute greatest.

We can't thank you enough for myself, at Tom McComas, at Diggs with a Z, at Nick Morado, at, hey, Gorman, at Viva Lozito, at Boston Conner, at Evan Foxy, and at Ty Schmidt. You're the absolute best. We appreciate you so much. Ty Schmidt, hit the music. Well, I've won and lost against the best. This old road's been a hell of a test.

I'm still driving. I ain't slowing down There's rules I love to break and bend mistakes I've made again again, but I tell you this my friends I'm still around I hit it hard man So far man No laying up no holding, ain't afraid of nothing, it's a natural fact. I hit it long, man, till it's gone, man, keep taking chances, living large, I hit it, hit it, hit it hard. Yeah, most people would have given up by now All the rough I've seen, these ups and downs Somehow I just keep on playing through

So all you critics pull up a chair at the winner's circle soon I'll be there with a high five and a smile for you hit it hard man so far man no laying up no holding back afraid nothing, it's a natural fact I hit it long, man, long Till it's gone, man, long Keep taking chances, living large I hit it, I hit it, I hit it hard Had enough of people trying to tell me how to live my life These lawyers in strings spending money like my ex-wives

Sure, I gamble and I drink and smoke three packs a day Hell, ain't country music supposed to be this way It's from the heart, man I hit it hard, man So far, man No laying up, no holding back I hit it hard, man Hard, man So far, man So far No laying up, no holding back Ain't afraid of nothing, it's a natural fact

I hit it long, man Long Till it's gone, man Gone Keep taking chances, living large I hit it, I hit it, I hit it hard I hit it, I hit it, I hit it hard I hit it hard, man hit it, I hit it, I hit it hard I hit it hard, man, hard, so far, man, so far

No laying up, no holding back, ain't afraid of nothing, it's a natural fact I hit it long, man, long, till it's gone, man, long Keep taking chances, living large I hit it, I hit it, I hit it hard I'll keep hitting it hard, man, how about you?