The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 069 - Birthday Podcast With Some American Heroes

Episode Date: May 2, 2019

On today’s show, Pat celebrates his 32nd birthday by looking ahead at what’s to come this next year, and reflects a little bit on the past. Pat also previews a massive opportunity presenting itself after some having some meetings with Westwood One, and he also addresses the Monday Night Football situation and his thoughts on the what is potentially next. Pat and the guys also talk about the Walmart by Pat’s house, and discuss his love for Applebee’s and the drastic deviation in their service from visit to visit. The guys also cover whether or not Jeopardy! is fixed with the current champion, wonder what Regis Philbin is up to, and try to decide how people in Hollywood manage to not age at all. For Throwback Thursday, stick around after the show for an incredible interview with Bob Pennington and Scott Neil, two of the original horse soldiers/Green Beret’s that the film “12 Strong,” starring Chris Hemsworth, was based on. They do a deep dive into their mission, describing a part of our world that very few humans know about, chat about what they thought of the film based on them, and discuss their new Horse Soldier Bourbon Whiskey from their new company American Freedom Distillery (1:14:08-2:18:18). It’s a good one, come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Just yesterday, I was 31. It's crazy. Mm-hmm. Isn't it? It's crazy how time works. Some people say it's flat circle. I'd say it's a bunch of bullshit. Because I feel no older than 25 right now.

My liver feels 60, maybe 70. But the body feels good good this is the best my body's felt in a long time and here we are 32 times around the sun now am i 32 now or am i 32 the day before i turn 33 i wouldn't even worry about because there's a black hole sucking on the fabric of space time right now that's what you said. I mean, it's a little bit of a time. Is that because I drive a truck? Is that because I drive a truck and cows fart and stuff like that? Yeah. Is that why the black hole is? Oh, no, this is way past that. Is that thing going to get here before 12 years?

Because that's what I've heard we got. I've heard we got 12 years. I'm only going to make it to 44. Will Compton of the Tennessee Titans tweeted me today to bide my time, you know, in due time, my friend. Does he know there's a black hole sucking Earth? It doesn't sound like it. Does he know? Tennessee Titans tweeted me today to bide my time. In due time, my friend. Does he know there's a black hole sucking earth? Doesn't sound like it.

Does he know? There's no time to be bidden. We don't have time. Can't be biding time right now. No. My time is now. My time is now. Your time is up.

My time is now. We're coming to you live from my sunroom. I didn't know what that was either when I moved into this place. Basically, it's just a deck that's wooded in. It's nice. With some windows. Sam is turning into a little bit of a gypsy situation. A lot of hippie shit on the windows.

We've got some dream catchers. Just in case you fall asleep in here, you dream good. I don't think anybody's ever slept in here. So I think we should move those to the bedroom, but it's beautiful. Sam hangs out in here a lot. I mean mean this is kind of her place to chill out whenever the trees are uh bloomed it's just like you're in the woods it's like a tree house yep it's a really nice area here nice little uh wu-sau situation here as i turned 32 years old um jesus was what 33 So what was he doing when he was 32? Is this him walking around telling people stuff? Yep, you bet.

I mean, I'm probably going to do the same thing. I'm just going to sit down and talk into a microphone. So me and Jesus are probably doing the same thing, walking around telling people things. A lot of preaching. If I was to say one thing to the humans at home that are younger than me and want to make it to 32, I'd say laugh more, hate less, work hard, and what's that, Ty?

Cash some checks. Take the sum out because of syllables. Exactly. Because you have to take the syllables out of there. But I think that is honestly the key to life, and I've been very lucky to make it to 32. I've been very lucky to see a lot of things and do a lot of things and experience a lot of things

in just 32 trips around the sun. Or is it only 31? That's a real question. Like, am I 32 now or am I 32? I think you're 32. And then on Friday, you're 32 in one day and so on. Oh, so you think I've made it 32 years? Yeah, so you're on the 32 mark in zero days, right?

Got it. And then the last day will be 364 or whatever. So yesterday I was 31 in 364 days. Correct. That's what I think. Okay. Sounds right. I think you're 100% right.

Nice. So I've survived 32 years. Yes. 32 years ago, I believe at 11 a.m. is when I came into this world. I believe. I'm not sure. Big head. Sally tells the story that I was very uncomfortable in there.

I took a little two-minute timeout, two-minute warning on my way out of there. Scared the living shit out of the room, I guess. Everything was going swimmingly, literally. And then I just went ahead and paused for a moment. And they were like, wait a minute. We won't lose this guy. So they'd get in there and suck me out, I guess. I didn't watch it in health class and maybe puke, but I heard it was pretty disgusting.

It's usually pretty gross looking. Shout out to Sally McAfee for making that happen. Shout out, Sally. Tim McAfee doesn't get enough credit. Nine months before I came out, he did a little thing on my grandma's couch. Let's not talk about it. Let's not talk about it. Today we'll be at a golf course for a golf

outing from my foundation that Tim McAfee put together. Very proud of him. Very thankful to all the sponsors that pitched in. We give scholarships to children and military families and the golf outing should be a blast. It's going to be a little wet. It's going to be a little soggy out there.

Going to really see who can control a ball. Exactly. Going to really see who can throw the darts out there. It doesn't really feel like a birthday right now, I'm going to be honest. Yesterday was one of the most insane days of my entire life. Well, it's because you haven't opened your gifts yet. Oh, here we go.

The boys showed up at the house. Boys showed up at the house with some gifts. You guys stopped at CVS, clearly, and got this right by my house. A little classier than CVS. Go on. Walmart. Walmart. This Walmart right over here?

That place gets held up once or twice a week. You literally, when you hear cops go by here, you can just, oh, Walmart again. You just know

that something went down at Walmart. They stopped reporting it on the news because I think it's just such an often occurrence over there.

But I'm thankful you guys went and battled to get me these. That's the one I got my leg mangled at by the old guy on the scooter. There it is.

And the people in this Walmart. The best. Oh my God. Indiana Walm. And the people in this Walmart. The best. Oh, my God. Indiana Walmarts. The one in the south side is where those two ladies were wailing on each other, went viral. The one in Anderson is the one in the training camp

where the guy was on a motorized scooter, almost died. Me and Vinatieri decided that we were not heroes at that moment. Right. Dude turned purple. Nurse comes screaming. Does the CPR. I'm like, thank you. turned purple. Nurse comes screaming. Does the CPR. I'm like, thank you. We leave.

Knocked down like three aisles like with the boom, boom, boom with the motorized scooter thing. And then this Walmart over here, I'm telling you, cops get called there two, three times a week. When I'm driving to work, there's already shit popping off there.

Already shit popping off there. And the news is just like, yeah, we're done with it. Old news. That Walmart getting robbed. So you guys went literally through a battlefield to get me birthday gifts, and that means a lot. Well, and it's funny you mention that,

because I thought there was about a 90% chance we were going to get shot in the parking lot. There's a chance. There's a special breed of white trash that go in that motherfucker, too. Oh, yeah. I got a question. A lot of calf and shin tattoos walking in that fucking place.

So I got Subway inside the Walmart because there's Subway inside there. That's a wild move. Does that affect the quality of the Subway, do you think? No, Subway's quality is always going to be a Subway quality at this point. Okay, good. I mean, they've got to the point where they used to be so legit. Subway used to be so legit, and then it got massive.

It was like the number one, I think, restaurant in the country at one point. Most Subways of any fast food place places in the u.s yep there's more subways than any other god damn zito for a second for what it's worth i didn't notice most subways before that though yeah if you caught them before that run they used to like load up on the meat like they used to be like they there were sandwich artists is what they called themselves it used to be like a real thing and then they got so big and so widespread that they had to just dumb down everything and make it simple so it was just like oh we'll microwave the chicken breast that started to become a thing we'll microwave the chicken breast. That started to become a thing. We'll microwave the chicken breast.

15 seconds. Here's your rubber ass chicken. And then the whole thing happened with that guy who did the thing with the thing. And it was terrible. From Indiana, by the way. He and I were in a VIP next to each other at one point. I did recall very recently, as in the last hour, that evening, also Gary from Teen Mom was in the same club. So it was me, Fogo, and Gary from Teen Mom.

Elite company. Heavy hitters. Yeah, hindsight, not great. I'll tell you what, though. I was fucking lit. I was having a good time. I was turning up. It was probably like a Wednesday or something like that. Oh, yeah. They had like 50-cent-something shots or something there. Nice. Wednesday specials.

Gotta love it. Yeah, just anything to get the fucking degenerates out. Oh, nice. Wednesday specials. Gotta love it. Yeah, just anything to get the fucking degenerates out of the house. To all your callers. Hey, it's definitely a school night and a work day. If you're worth a shit at all, you shouldn't be here. But we're giving away alcohol. I'd go in there and somehow spend $1,000 on a Wednesday. Yeah, get the fucking creepy guy from Subway about 45 shots. Yeah, Gary from Teen Moms there.

Ty, big fan of Teen Mom, I just realized. Yeah, I used to watch a decent amount of Teen Mom. I mean, just your basic trash TV. You watch it for guys like Gary from Indiana. I mean, that guy is just a bag of mashed up assholes. I think he either had a bag of what? of mashed up assholes. I think he either had... Bag of what? Of mashed up assholes.

Of course he is. I was just about to comment on the pants he was wearing. I think I remember he had his pants and boot combo on. I think that was the first thing. I've always been like, let me see what shoes they're wearing. I'm going to learn a lot about them very quickly type of guy. And I think he had either Janko or Fubu pants on. Sounds about right. And they had like these

brown beat up, like the athletic Timbos. Those are conflicting ideologies. I know. That's why I was so confused. That's tough. That's why in my brain they're trying to figure out which one it was. It was really two different ends of the spectrum. Yeah, yeah.

It's just two extremes. Very much so. Janko and Fubu, very much two opposite ends of the spectrum. Their titles say it. Their titles literally say it. Yeah, it was me, Gary, and Fogle, you know, throwing Don. I just realized that from your love of that show. I mean, I wouldn't say I loved it, but I did enjoy watching it.

You rattled off the cast of it before we started. Yeah, that was the best scene. That was the first season. Farrah, who is from Iowa, was a porn star for a little bit. She's done a lot of porn. Yeah, that was the best scene. That was the first season. Farrah, who is from Iowa, was a porn star for a little bit. She's done a lot of porn. Yeah, she has. Those teen moms have done well for themselves. I don't know how their kids are, but they've done...

Kids really came in the world with a lot of help. Yeah. You know what I mean? Gary used to eat like 10 lefts and 10 rights per episode from the girl. She used to beat the shit out of him. Poor Gary. He was on a Wednesday just trying to get... I bought him everything that night.

He had MTV money. I think I met him, and he was just moseying around by himself, if I do recall. And we brought him into our area, and we're just buying him stuff. And then somebody was like, that's a guy from Teen Mom.

And I was like, guy from Teen Mom? That makes no sense. Oh, he's one of the fathers. I was like, that's a guy from Teen Mom. And I was like, guy from Teen Mom? That makes no sense. Oh, he's one of the fathers. I was like, oh, my guy. Your life is terrible. Yeah, and it was, I assume. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you said it.

Big time. Ty rattled off, though, the entire cast of Teen Mom 1 and 2. I assume he hate watched it. Big time. That's kind of your move, huh? Yeah, a little bit. I think I want to say I was either in high school or college when that was on, so it's like, what the hell else are you doing on a Tuesday night?

Well, for me. If I was in college, I was probably getting boozed up on a Tuesday night, but in high school, I definitely wasn't. Yeah, you're right. You know? 100% right. Just watching YouTube. And lo and behold, Teen Mom Marathon.

Hey, give me that shitty-ass shit that makes me feel better about my life because it's so terrible. Bingo. Exactly. Bingo. Exactly. Bingo! All right, so you guys came bearing gifts from the terrible Walmart. I'll admit, I was getting Subway. These are from Nick and Ty.

I have a gift for you, though. I do have a gift for you. I couldn't take credit for these incredible gifts. Do you even know what's in here, or are you running out alongside? No, I know one gift, and I don't know what else is in there. The best one. What did you get from this terrible Subway? I got the spicy Italian.

I don't think they can mess up process. No. You should have seen it though. She had to go get more of the salami and it just comes in a fucking plastic bag and it looks so gross. We've been doing the Subway recently. I wish I didn't see that. I think they had to they had to pivot obviously you know i think they're trying

to come back i think they're trying to come back so there's a little bit more time and um respect in the craft of the subway artist i think i'm also wondering if subway is a thing where you just have a quick run with it like personally you have a run with it and then you gotta take a break for a little bit. Like Storage Wars Yeah exactly I'm a very lazy person especially when it comes to meals and stuff too and I don't understand how in my own mind

I justify spending $12 for a footlong while watching them microwave the chicken which is something I would never do on my own if it's grilled chicken and I'm reheating it, I'm definitely putting it in a- But I still go in there under the assumption I'm paying $5 for a footlong.

Oh, yeah. Exactly. And then whenever I pay and I'm like, oh, I must have added something on. $12.97? That extra fucking jalapeno. That's probably my fault, actually. That's not Subway's fault.

That's my fault. And by that point, they've already wrapped the thing, so there's nothing you can do. Stick the fucking card in the chip reader or you can't do anything. and there's a line behind you because you've been ordering one line of mayo please they put one and a half so you have to have the can you please not dump it all on heavy hand always incredible marketing though there's nothing worse than the guy in front of you that pulls out a fucking list though it's subway like hey bob

order ahead all right so the gifts from Walmart. From my good friends, Franklin Nicholas Moraldo and good old Ty Schmidt. OCW, by the way, potentially coming out today. We had a, what's it called? Something wrong with the memory card. I don't know the fancy word. What is it called? Corrupt.

Corrupt. Corrupted files. Corrupted file on an SD card, which was none of our faults, I was told, by the people that can fix them. Right. So we had to take it to a place to fix it because I guess there's a machine that can fix it. We've been told 24 to 72 hours to fix it. So OCW was delayed due to a camera angle being corrupted. Yeah.

This is our first time, by the way. Well, it's a camera angle you need. Absolutely. We could have put it out, but it looked like shit. Exactly. We don't do that. I don't think we could have put it out, by the way. Yeah, it would have been tough.

It was like the main camera. Todd's camera. I wasn't going to say that. Todd didn't do anything. Yeah, he didn't. He really didn't. They told me that it was not user error. It was 100% SD card error.

Yep. I believe them. And I'm shocked they fixed it. We don't know. We don't know if they fixed it. I guess I'm just assuming. 24 to 72 hours, they said, which is a wild prediction. Yeah, it is.

I don't think I've ever heard anything like that before. You know what? We'll get it done in a day or six months. We don't know. It's like the cable company when they give you the window to show up. I'm so tired of that bullshit. It's 2019. Can you not just text me when you're on your way? Hey, Friday

afternoon, we'll text you at some point. Not you got to sit at home from 12 to 6. That's why I got terrible Wi-Fi here. Who has time for a six-hour window to do nothing and just sit at your house? Who has that time? Gary. Gary does. Gary from Teen Mom does.

They act like everyone's sitting around doing nothing like they are. It's like, hey, guess what? Some of us actually work on the clock. I will say this. The guy that came and fixed my DirecTV satellite, the second guy, the first guy came and told me that I had leaves on there and asked me if I wanted him to go get a ladder and bat the leaves off with a bat.

It's the least you could do, pal. I said, you know what? No. If that's all it is, I'm sure they'll blow off at some point. I mean, I've missed the national championship. I've missed a lot of games. I've done a lot of that. I'm sure it's just leaves.

And then this other guy came, and he was a wizard. He was like, oh, your thing's clogged or whenever there's too much water and something. What's that called? Like waterlogged? Yep. Like that. But my thing was waterlogged.

This guy went above and beyond, showed up at the first minute of the time slot. So it was like from 12 to 4. Showed up at 12.01. Was done by 12.30. My TV was fixed. Wouldn't take a tip and just left. Wow. Rare breed. Rare breed. You TV was fixed. Wouldn't take a tip and just left. Wow. Rare breed.

Rare breed. You never have that. No, never. Normally it's 359. They show up and then they're going to be there until seven. And then it's like, you hate this too. Like you don't want to be here until seven. I don't want you to be here until seven.

Just show up a little earlier. And they're like, well, we had another job. It's like, I bet you were really busting your fucking dick to get that job done. Yeah. What they didn't tell you is that they took a two andand-a-half-hour lunch that day, too. At Walmart Subway. Yeah, exactly. They want salami out of bags.

When Ty and I moved into our place, the cable guy came. He brought his kid. He brought his 10-year-old kid. I don't mind it. As soon as he pulled up. I'm a family guy. Everybody knows that. Well, yeah, but I was like, I'm not tipping the kid.

I'll tip you, pal, but I ain't tipping the kid. I don't care how many wires he's carrying. Here's a tip, kid. Don't do what you're fucking doing. I'm just thinking if they sent like, you got the good one, and then you got the Zito one. He used to do that. He used to do that.

He'd throw telephone poles. I know. We're looking at the drawings here, and it doesn't feel a telephone pole is going to fit. Move it. Move it. Zeno didn't deserve that.

He did. I know. I know. Pat asked them to get baskets or bins that put water bottles and beers and Red Bulls in for the golf outing. Took a photo of the one to get. And he showed up with laundry baskets.

Yeah, but Zito is a you-get-it guy. The job will get done. But he said, you know what? By the end of this year, he said, it's going to be you got it, Zito. He's doing good. He's going to be reading at my wedding. Whether he likes it or not. Whether Sam likes at my wedding. Whether he likes it or not.

Whether Sam likes it or not. Whether he can read or not. We all know very very confidently that he cannot read. It's not our fault. It's not his fault. No. He actually put

a tweet out said today's this last episode, shout out to all the teachers that taught him growing up. He's the best. Zito is the best human on earth. He is. He is the best human. Every day, ready to go. He was eating what, a snickerdoodle cookie this morning, 9am? I said, what the fuck are you doing? 9am. He said, it's a breakfast

cookie. I said, it's a snickerdoodle. Ain't no snickers in here. Get the fuck out of here. Take a hike. Alright, so your gifts from Walmart. Yes. Very nice tie Nick, I thank you. Good friends. Really appreciate that. I think you're going to like what's in there.

I know you went to battle to get these. Yeah, big time. You swam and dodged and weaved your way around the white trash paradise that is the Walmart and the hood-ass Walmart in there. You almost need a SARS mask walking in there because you don't know what's floating around in the air. Everybody judges those Chinese folks that wear those masks in public. Until you walk into that Walmart, you're like, it makes sense.

It's like, what do you get the guy that has everything? I've been told this a long time. That's why normally people don't get me much for my birthday, so I appreciate that. But I am an impulse buyer. If I see something I want, I'm going to buy it. It's just the way it is. That's why normally people don't get me much for my birthday, so I appreciate that. But I am an impulse buyer. If I see something I want, I'm going to buy it. It's just the way it is. That's what money's for. We don't save it.

We spend it. We kind of channeled your spirit there for this. Appreciate that. First things first, something I need on a very regular basis. This is going directly to Foxy, by the way, because any time I need something, I just go, hey, Foxy, you got a battery pack to charge

yourself. I appreciate you guys so much. That's a two times charge on there. You're getting two full charges out of that thing. That's what it says right here on the front, and it's a slim design so it can fit in Foxy's pocket. Look at that upper right-hand corner. It's got the battery percentage on there as well.

That is something they don't have. Exactly. That's good. Thank you. You bet. That means a lot. I'm going to need this. We're just getting started. Let's first one up. Not a great wrap job with the bag. They gave me the gift bag. Classic gift-giving thing by Bachelor Men.

Just put a little fucking piece of paper in there, dump some shit in the bag, and close it up. That's perfect wrapping. I do the same thing. I respect and appreciate this, to be honest with you. Did you get the bag at Walmart as well? Oh, yeah. One-stop shop at the White Trash Walmart. Next, we have Tom and Jerry's Spotlight Collection

over five hours of fun. I am not a gambling man, but I'm betting old Tom never catches Jerry in these five hours. But I did say on one of the shows that the only cartoon I watched was Tom never catches Jerry in these five hours. But I did say on one of the shows that the only cartoon I watched was Tottenham and Jerry. Bingo. Yep. And that's the best of the best there.

This is the best five hours they got? Yeah, loaded with five hours of content. It's a real game of cat and mouse. It is. Heyo. I'll be back. You feel good about that one. Do you want me to open a card last? No, I don't think so.

It's up to you. I don't think you have to. Because normally the card potentially has a very nice message in it. This card may or may not have a gift inside of it. I don't know. Oh, I didn't think about that. Oh, a little mystery for the 32nd birthday. Foxy, how do you feel not being a part of any of this?

Because you were over there eating fucking bagged salami. No. I already got you a gift. You're going to get your gift on the golf course. Really? Oh, yeah. Foxy and I will be bouncing around

on the golf course giving out celebrity shots to people. That'd be very nice of us to do that. Hopefully they're good. Yeah. The thing I think is going to happen if I've registered my golf game at all, I'm going to hit a couple

really good shots for some teams. Yeah, for sure. And then I'm going to go ahead and hit some very fucking terrible ones for other teams. Hey, that's just golf, though. But hopefully when I do that, you'll step in and hit a good shot. Oh, yeah. Perfect. Let's open the card from Nick and Ty only.

Nick and Ty only. Huh? Oh, it's a it's one of the big. Oh, it's a beer mug card. We should get into the card making industry you walk down like the aisle there at a cvs or walgreens there's some very terrible cards a lot of them majority of them to be honest a lot because i'm a big time card giver it's very simple you just put cash in a card you write a little message in there from the heart it's like better gift than anything else most people get,

depending on the amount of cash you put in there, obviously. There's a lot of bad cards, though. I think we could create some good cards. We just need paper and a brain. Yeah. I think we just go on the internet, use all the best internet memes, and make them cards. Meme cards.

Now we're talking plagiarizing the shit out of a business. Yeah. Perfect. Well, and Hallmark still makes a lot of money. A lot of money. They have their own stores. Like Hallmark stores. Oh, yeah.

They're everywhere. You walk into there, they have a Hallmark channel. Does anyone ever buy anything in there besides cards? Yeah, I've bought some random trinkets and shit when you're scrambling for a Christmas gift. And you're like, eh, fuck it, I'll take that too. Valentine's Day as well? Valentine's Day too, you bet. Check that too.

Valentine's Day. Or Valentine's Day too, you bet. When I lived in my first house here in Indiana, there was a Hallmark store right there, like catty corner to my house. I got, I think every birthday that happened from that Hallmark store, Christmas, Valentine's Day was a clutch. They do, they got everything in there.

Fake flowers, like you can give away fake flowers in there. They really, they should start marketing it as like,, guy, you definitely didn't prepare for this fucking holiday. We got it all right here for you. That's really what they should market to this. Let's get to this card. Beer mug. It is a, what's that called? It's like art class in high school.

Is that cotton up there? You layer things on top of each other. And it's obviously, it looks as if it's sewed. In high school, we would have put glue down and glued it. It's like a soft fabric, but it's thickish. You get it. You get it. Something tall and strong. Make it a hurricane. Before I go insane. It's only half past 12.

But I don't care. Why is that card? It's 5 o'clock somewhere. The singing card. What a classic gift this was from Nick and Ty. I can't stress that enough. Strictly from Nick and Ty. Get credit for the singing card.

To the best boss friend anyone could ask for. I appreciate you guys. Nick and Ty get credit for the singing card to the best boss friend anyone could ask for I appreciate you guys Nick and Ty by the way Evan didn't even try to squeeze his name on there which sometimes you will do told you I was not gonna take the credit it's your birthday hope every hour is a happy hour 24 of

them thanks we mean that too thank you for this boys and an Applebee's gift card. $25 to $500 will be a guessing game when I get there. Yeah. We can't tell you. That's just rude. I can probably guess. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

You think so? Yeah. Alright. I'm excited boys. Pick up a couple apps. At least. Really? Yeah. Get yourself dessert, too. Holy shit! It's always an interesting time when you've got to punch in and tell the person working the register how much you want to put on a gift card. Yep.

Because they are automatically going to judge you, whether it's low or high. If you go high, they're like, ooh, this person fucked up. I dealt with that a lot when I worked at Best Buy, and I had no problem with trying to goad them into adding about an extra 50 or, you know. It's like, hey, that's all you're giving them? Oh, you give them like the, oh, this is a $2,500 to $500 card.

We're going with what, $2,600? Oh, okay. Well, he's not going to be able to buy anything in the store with this, so you might want to. A discount. A discount. It's a discount card. We'll call it a discount card, not a gift card.

A discount card. Hey, take $26 off card. That's nice of you. A discount. It's a discount card. We'll call it a discount card, not a gift card. A discount card. Hey, take $26 off card. That's nice of you. Happy birthday. Happy fucking birthday. I got the one receipt from one place I went to. It said generic gift card on the receipt. I'm like, yo, get the fuck out of here.

Does the money count? Yes. Yes. Thank you for that, boys. You know I love Applebee's. It's your favorite. I like their ribs. Great service.

Great service, great steak. Let's go back to that great service talk. Let's go back. We've had quite a run-in with terrible service at Applebee's. I think more so than any other place that we've gone to as a group on a regular basis. Applebee's has really been a hit or miss operation. And by hit or miss, I mean of our party. Like some people get great service.

The person directly next to them gets the worst service I've ever seen. Then next to them, it's like great service. And then the worst. I don't know how it all happens. Normally, it's table by table. It's human by human at Applebee's. Just like Subway, Applebee's kind of lost their touch. They got too big.

Yeah, it'll happen. You know when it happened? Talladega Nights. When they got all that press in Talladega Nights when they were going to happen. Well, they finally wrapped the Cobb salad. And they put onions on the bourbon steak. He specifically said no onions. Can't do that.

You just can't do that. It's a shame. I do like their boneless wings, though, that they have on the apps. Chicken nuggets with buffalo sauce. I like that a lot. The boneless wing talk needs to relax. I understand. I don't want to call you a waiter or a waitress.

I get it. You're a server. But you're not boneless wings, bro. You're a fucking chicken nugget. I agree. True. So true. So true.

I'm tired of it. I'm tired of it. You know of it you know i do love those going in there and getting like a steak medium rare and then having it come come out like icy cold and like black in the center i'm a huge fan or even well done sometimes yeah even well done medium rare yeah that's let that thing cook like a marshmallow yeah exactly i mean that's an easy mistake to make you know like medium rare and well done are very close on like the cooking scale. So it makes sense. Gordon Ramsey has always said that when he's looking for his next chef, he goes right to a fucking Applebee's.

That's what he says. When I first started working in a kitchen and they would order steaks and I first started working on the grill, the guy teaching me was like, yeah, you just take your left hand, put your palm out. He goes, you just touch it like this. Put your right index finger on it and touch it. And then, you know, right there is medium, right there is well done. I said, that doesn't mean anything.

That means nothing to me. I'm 16 years old. I just got my driver's license. How the fuck am I supposed to know what medium or medium rare is? I guess that's a real thing, but the way you explained it, you're not helping, buddy. John Taffer's made a living off of people like you cooking medium beef. Yes. I figured it out.

Is this the last one in here, or is there numerous? I think that's it. That might be the last one. Okay, dig down to the bottom. It's a nice piece of fabric here. Sleeve of Soty from Walmart. I did not know Walmart's selling Sleeve of Soty. Oh, boy.

It's a good one, too. This is our competition. I thought we cornered. Oh, this is a good one. too. This is our competition. I thought we cornered. Oh, this is a good one. A Russell Athletic one. 100% microfiber, moisture wicking. You ain't going to sweat in that thing. No, no.

Good luck. Well, you are going to sweat, but it's going to. It's going to wick it right off. It's a wicker. It's the wicker. I don't fully understand what that means, by the way. Phil Plank made a billion dollars off of this moisture wicking thing. What does it mean?

It just sucks up my sweat? Like a vacuum? Well, I think it's like when you spill water on it, like the droplets kind of just run off instead of you getting it. Oh, it's Rain-X. Yeah, exactly. This is Rain-X for humans. That's what Under Armour is.

I've never really known. I only wore the Under Armour because it was tight and warm and it was good underneath the shirt, but they're always like, oh yeah, moisture wicking. And it makes you look jacked. Even if you're out of shape and you put it on, it's going to hold your body parts in the right spot. Those OG underarmors are just like

Spanx for dudes. Put a little mock turtleneck, the all-white long sleeve. Just kind of suck you in there like one of them things that those humans wear on the Instagram, the quartet thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what the Under Armour, the original Under Armour is.

It was like this thick, too. That thing was as thick as a wrestling mat. It looked incredible. It was insane, the originals. Guy made a billion. Yeah. Still don't know what moisture wicking is. It's Rain-X for sweat.

That makes a lot more sense. Phil Plank, you're welcome, by the way, if that's what you want to run with in your next one. This is a very nice sleeveless hoodie, actually. I appreciate you guys. We got competition, though, for real. I thought we cornered the market on sleeveless hoodies. This one right here is very nice.

Looks good. We should tell you, very affordable as well. Don't say that. That's not good. It was scary when I saw how affordable it was. Tight dump that. Well done by you guys. Maybe affordable.

The only thing you worry about with something like that is who's touched that thing? Who's maybe tried that thing on in the changing room at Walmart? Whose nipples were rubbing up against my moisture-wicking sleeveless hoodie? Exactly. I'm not going to wash this before I put it on here. I'm going to roll the dice. Especially with that Walmart you guys came out of. I'm liable to catch maybe fucking SARS.

Yeah. SARS. Scabies. Who knows? I learned what scabies was the other day. Yeah. Foxy had scabies. I've had scabies before.

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Pub is a dirty-ass place, though. It is. We interrupt this invigorating conversation. Is that the right word? That works. Invigorating works. Oh, yeah. What exactly does invigorating mean?

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What else? Anything happen in order we should talk about? Oh, yeah. Westwood One has come in and made a real play for your boys here pretty excited about it that was part of may 1st 2019 we had 47 people show up at the office yesterday wanting autographs and donations and this and that all the while a massive meeting with westwood one was happening um i thought really the office handled it like a bunch of champs everybody we clean the place up for them anytime we get people from the big city to come out to america and visit us we always clean up the office we kick the shit under the bed we throw it

into the closet i literally went into my office picked up a bag like a whole it was a pile of like merch just a pile of merch that i've either worn or has been sitting there for months. And I went into my bathroom and put it underneath the sink and kicked it underneath. And I was like, I feel like I'm fucking 12 again when my mom is like, clean up your bedroom. It was an awesome day, though. A lot of chitter chatter. Something big could be coming here for us. This type of setup has happened before on numerous occasions

where conversations happen. I'm flown across the country numerous times to go meet people, shake hands, and then it all comes to be a bunch of bullshit. This one seems pretty good, though. The people are very nice, very, very intelligent. I enjoyed it a lot. And it would be cool to be able to get a little wind at the back of our sails. That'd be nice.

You know what I mean? If we were a sailboat, the Amish of the sea, it'd be nice if there was a little bit of a rape behind us. Interesting timing from the universe, too, for that meeting with the Monday Night Football announcement, of course, came today. timing from the universe too for that meeting with uh the monday night football announcement of course came today yeah by the way um you know i wrote on the internet that ever since i was a kid the yuppies have not been fans of the pat mcfee i'm talking like since third grade second third grade and my mom has ingrained in my brain that they're not friends of ours so i i hate them as well uh there's a lot of suits and people that don't fully understand or get it with me. Right?

They don't get it. Right. I'm an internet guy. I was a punter. I'm this. I'm that. There's always like an excuse. I've always said haters could see me walk on water and they'd say it's because I can't swim.

Some of those particular people that view that are in positions of power and there's always an excuse it's like this happened but it was because of this this happened but it was because of this so instead of seeing things and being like oh that was awesome that that happened there's tends to be with me i've realized and this is throughout my entire life yeah that happened but it's because of this or this or this and this. And it's just like, yeah, but I mean, if you could just look through it with your beer goggles, like you make with all your other fucking decisions,

it would be very, very nice. I think it would be. But I do think something big is coming around the corner. There's been a lot of positive momentum, mostly from listeners of this show and followers on the internet. You guys are the absolute greatest. But I think our time will come But I think our time will come. I think our time will come.

But that's also why I don't understand the he's an internet guy. If you have a following like you do, and you're as good at not even manipulating, but just being on the internet as you are anymore, those people are fucking more powerful than the guys working at ESPN. I mean, the guys at ESPN are making the decisions, but you wield more power with people than they do. Here is BTS.

He's an incredible... The boy band from South Korea? Yep. Not North Korea. That boy band is a guy we used to talk about. Oh, yeah? We don't talk about that boy band anymore. Old Jimmy Kong Kong.

Bad guy. South Korea, though, there's a band called BTS. And they are they got the juice more than any band i've ever seen in my entire life i was watching this billboard music award thing with sam earlier and they kelly clarkson came out with gronk was there and this whole thing was happening and she's singing and talking the place is completely quiet this one little bts okay has pink hair his corner of his face pops into the corner of the camera that is on the jumbotron the entire top bowl is filled with teenage girls lights up loudest yell ever and kelly you could see her like almost like perk up so then they cut the kids off the camera, dead silent again.

So then his pink hair creeps onto the screen again. Rah! Place goes crazy. OK? So then I think the producers, I would assume they knew this was going to happen. I don't know. But then they just backed up while Kelly was singing and just showed the entire band. The roof went off the place.

Kelly was singing. You couldn't even hear her because these teenage girls were just screaming but they built their shit on the internet on the youtube in south korea like the mainstream here in america is catching up to them later these dudes they're gonna they do whatever the fuck they want oh yeah these dudes do whatever because they have an army behind them you know they have an absolute behind them. Right. Just like the Biebs. The Biebs was a YouTube sensation, internet sensation. Then when he got into the mainstream, all those people were with him, ready to go. We are nowhere near that level, but it is nice to know that we got a few hundred thousand

people ready to go to bat for us at any given time. Oh, yeah. I want to let you know, if you're going to go to bat for me, if I get a chance to be put into a situation, I'm going to show up bat for me if i get a chance to be put into a situation like i'm gonna show up for you guys i'm gonna let you know that what you are saying and what you are tweeting i will not waste it i will take advantage of every situation that is afforded to me and hopefully we'll just hit motherfucking dingers until we get to the top and let's ride this wave together and enjoy the hell out of it i think that is a real thing though honestly i do and i think a lot of

people are put into situations like forced into them and they drop the ball and i'm gonna tell you what ball security job security i'm holding on i do have a good time though man it's so much fun because when i go to do things i'm talking with people who are professionals at whatever I'm going to do. Right. And it's like watching them prepare and mentally get all worked up. And you see this. And I'm literally just like, yeah, come on, man. Just give me a fucking chance to get out there.

Let's just do this. I'm so excited for it. I think at some point we're going to blindside the whole operation. It's just going to be a full takeover. And it's going to be a lot of fun. I honestly do. After meeting the humans that get paid to do stuff that we do, it's going to be a lot of fun to just kind of take over.

It's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be a blast. It's going to be a very cool thing. Who knows what's next though? Yeah. I mean, a lot of doors open. Well,

one big one for every door that closes, another one opens. Some other beginnings end. What is that song? Closing Time. Closing Time. One last call for Al. To finish your whiskey and beer. I was trying to get to the line where that thing happens, but I don't know where it's at. Every new beginning comes from some other beginning.

Nailed it. Hey! You got there way before me. It was you doing that that got me there. That's what I have to do. I feel like I'm a jukebox where I couldn't tell you who sings that song. I couldn't tell you... Semi-sonic. Now we're talking.

That's why you need to be on Jeopardy right there. Jeopardy James, by the way, still going. Hey, still going. Yeah, it's great. It's believable, too. Bro, he won $92,000 the other day. How do you not enjoy this? This is just like at the NXT TakeOver pre-show.

Some guy was going out to play AJ Styles, Ty Schmidt's favorite wrestler. Yeah, you bet. Fucking piece of shit. That one was for me. This guy goes out to play AJ Styles at the NXT TakeOver pre-show for a million dollars. Okay?

So a WWE Universe member, an NXT fan, is potentially going to win a million dollars. Dream come true. Life-changing situation. As soon as he walks on stage, the whole crowd boos him. I'm like, what are we talking about? Let's get this guy rich. We don't want to see this guy win a million dollars.

Like, we're not happy for the guy. And Sam Roberts was like, no, I should be up there with you. I was like, that's how you there with you i was like that's how you guys think he's like yeah i would have booed him too i'm like why are we not happy for this guy and then he won obviously aj was very bad at the game i don't think yeah aj styles was not good at the game i mean the guy won but i learned a lot about society in that moment i learned literally a lot about society in that moment because in my eyes i was completely blind to the fact that we weren't happy for this guy about to win a million dollars i was jacked up for the

guy i'm like let's go dude his whole family's gonna live a new life his kids are probably gonna be comfortable everyone's first thought is why him right on me i could do that screw him i'll do it those were the actual chants that were happening everything you just said there almost sounds too familiar. We're sitting there, and our mics were live. Our mics were live at the beginning of it. And everybody started booing. I was like, what?

And in the ear, they're like, your mics are live. I'm like, all right. So I got to be quiet. I mean, and then so I'm whispering to Sam Roberts. I'm like, why are they booing? And he's like, because that should be me. I'm like, you? He's like,

no, that's how they feel. I was like, oh, we live in a hater society. I didn't think that's, I don't think that's right at all. Honestly,

I think we should be happy for that guy winning a million dollars. And I don't know how we got here. I was okay with it because he threw it right back in their faces. He did. He went full heel.

You can boo me all you want. I got a million dollars. I fucking love that. I absolutely love that. So when people are hating on this Jeopardy guy, like I want him to win forever. I want this guy to win forever. I want him to win $45 million if it's possible.

I want to see everybody win. But the fact that we're watching a guy raking 92 grand off of Jeopardy, like that's astronomical. People are winning with $7,500 of them. They're like, $92,000? Like, let's go, dude. But there are people that say it's fake. I'm starting to flow towards that side a little bit.

That it's fake? Yeah, that it's all work. I don't know. I just feel like this guy's got... It'd be one... Ken Jennings had a personality. This guy's just a fucking weirdo. So you just don't like him as a person?

No. He's on Jeopardy. I've never seen him. I haven't watched one episode of his bonus. I said it yesterday on Heartland Radio. His underbite drives me insane.

Insane. You're a terrible guy. Well, you know. You're a terrible guy. Well, you know. You're a terrible guy. It's okay. Yeah, I am. I feel the same way sometimes. I hate that guy.

Why? I don't know. I don't like the way he looks. People do that to me all the time. Yeah, it happens. I think that's why I'm on the other side of that. Yeah, because it happens to me a lot. But he's on Jeopardy.

He's not going to have a good personality. That's what Jeopardy is. You ever seen Alex Trebek interview this? There's the three worst interviews of all time. Every night. That is true. Every night it's the three worst interviews, and it gets worse and worse somehow,

and Trebek knows it. Trebek knows it. Trebek's just sitting normally on a fucking loaded gun waiting to saw him die. I don't know their dumb answers. Not anymore, because he's going through some stuff, a little life perspective thing.

By the way, shout out to Trebek OG. O is the vote, geez. But I liked watching the guy just win and win and win. You're still sold that it's fake? Yeah, I think so. Why? Why not? Like I said, Trebek's on his way out eventually here at some point,

with all due respect. But they need some juice. They need someone to come in and bring some young viewers back in and get people excited again. And here's the perfect opportunity. This guy who can't be defeated, and he wins by these astronomical margins. Well, he won by $18 the other day. Right.

So then all of a sudden he looks vulnerable, and it's like, oh, wow. I'm interested. He's been winning all this time. But look, he barely won this time. Let's see what happens next week. You're too big of a wrestling fan. You may be right. I will say I'm not a Jeopardy guy,

and this is the only time jeopardy has really been on the radar look but that can go both ways like that can make me like the guy because he's going on such a hot streak but it also could be fake and that's why they're doing it but you'll never know if it's fake or not so it doesn't matter it's not fake it's real we will know we live in a woke society james will snatch you'll write a book at some point i mean at some point if we live if we survive this black hole that's sucking us or the 12 years that everybody says we have left if we survive long enough he'll write a book and tell us if it's fake i don't think it is though it's fake news society if he comes out says no no it's like let's don't listen to him he's lying he's making it up well yeah everybody's spinning you always

say it i will bury him if i have a big enough platform and he comes out and says it's fake I'll say he's lying just want to let you know I will be a part of the spin zone it's real so it's real just lock it in and it's real because I'm going to spin and it's real no matter what I hope it is Jeopardy is one of the only pure things left I think Wheel of Fortune

you watch people lose a million dollars because they mispronounce words because they're dum-dums. Mythical hero Achilles. That was tough. A million dollars. A fucking million dollars. You remember who wants to be a millionaire?

Oh, yeah. Old cuzzy called his dad to tell him he was going to win. That was like the most G shit ever. I like to phone a friend. Okay, who do you want to call? Call my dad. Let him know I just became a fucking millionaire. Hey, Regis, get that shit on speed dial, will you?

All right, you have one minute here, 30 seconds. Regis Philbin. Where'd he go? He's got one foot in the grave. I was going to say, is he still kicking? Guys, you guys. He's an one foot in the grave I was going to say Is he still kicking? Guys You guys He's an old man

He was doing What? Regis and Kelly With Kelly Lee Or whatever the fuck Her name is Kelly I don't remember

Kelly Ripa Kelly Ripa Yeah We would know if Regis was dead Yes For sure Regis He had a Guinness World Record

At one point For being the most minutes On television I guess he was a Notre Dame alum too too, so we definitely would know if. Yeah. Regis isn't dead. I don't know if Regis will ever die. He might not.

He helped launch Fox Sports 1 somehow. Remember when he had that show with 45 people on the set? Yep. I mean, it wasn't a good show at all, but when you need to launch a network, what do you do? Fucking find Regis. He's 87 years old. We had that Illuminati talk on Heartland Radio 2.0. Yeah.

Regis, something to think about in the entertainment biz of the Illuminati. I could see it. Seacrest, too. Yeah? Mm-hmm. 100%. Seacrest is definitely in it. He hasn't aged in 20 years.

He hasn't. He's gotten younger somehow. Yeah. You know how they do, like, TMZ puts out two photos of people, like, one from 20 years ago, one from now, and they're like, genes are good docs. Every single time, it's good docs. Yeah. Every single answer, every single time, is be good doctors.

But what are those doctors? Where are those doctors? What do they do? They just peel your face? You think it is every single time? I think so. I don't know. Sometimes I think it's like, you think Tom Brady, though. You think Tom Brady said work done. I think sometimes it's like working out and that super crazy healthy diet

and stuff like that that you can afford to get when you get to their level of money. Still with doctors, though, right? Putting together that diet. True. I guess so. True. Look at you. That was kind of a terrible spin zone there.

I mean, that was kind of a fucked up spin zone by me. But yeah, I think Tom got some shots in his forehead or whatever, the Botox shit. I think he did, and then he won another Super Bowl, so literally can't say anything about it. Nope. Can't say a single thing about it. Nope.

He went and chugged an apple juice on a late night TV show. Won that competition. Then he went and won a Super Bowl. Tom Brady can do anything he wants. Now he's training out in LA. Did you see those pictures of the UCLA kids? Did you see the other field? It was the rest of the UCLA team, I think, doing conditioning. And then there was three wide

receivers on Tom Brady's field. The fuck did the rest of the team do that they don't get to play? They looked like they were in lines to run. And then these three wide receivers on Tom Brady's field. The fuck did the rest of the team do that? They don't get to play. They look like they were in lines to run, and then these three wide receivers are like, all right, you, you, and you. You're welcome. You get to train with Tom Brady.

Everybody else on the fucking line. I'd be miserable. I wish I would have been on that team, and I look over there, and fucking Steve Slayton's training with Tom Brady, and I'm running 110s. Oh, Steve, isn't this nice? On the cover of every magazine, Heisman winner,

and you get to play catch with Tom Brady while I'm puking over here. It's fucking awesome. Tom Brady, greatest quarterback of all time. Yeah? Easy. Kevin Durant. I'm going to start lobbying for Kevin Durant as the best basketball player of all time. Best basketball player of all time.

I'm off the LeBron train. Come on. I'm off the LeBron train. Come on. And some would say this is a what have you done for me lately take. Some people would say this is a what have you done for me lately take. I say nay. LeBron James had an incredible run in the NBA. he's turned to wine he's produced seven shows he's got a very blossoming and booming business outside of the nba that is making him

more money probably than he's making in the nba somehow When that happens, it is hard to want to wake up in the morning and put up 100. She wasn't shooting in the gym. It's hard to wake up and do that, especially when you're just housing wine and tequila every night. I think we're at the point now where LeBron is going to fade himself out and move on to forward things. The Lakers have been duped.

LeBron had an incredible career. Incredible career. What are you saying? You're counting them out way too early. Now it's party time. I was just looking. I saw the other day. He had a drinking party when he was a kid.

Bro, he was faking an empty bottle of wine dump. That's like me in college. He's having that right now. He's been a poster boy for perfect basketball players since he was 15 14 years old he hasn't had to been able to have any fun he's on that banana boat everybody thinks he's losing his mind what'd you probably have like two shots of tequila that day okay i saw the stats from this season lebron still averaged 0.1 more points than kevinant, average more rebounds, and average more assists. Now I get it.

KD is on the Warriors, so he doesn't have to do as much. But LeBron's not done. His offseason's already off to a wine start. I'm telling you that. I don't think – just like Conor McGregor. Once you get a yacht, it's hard to want to wake up at 5.30 a.m. and get your face punched in. This is true. Which is what you need to do if you're going to.30 a.m. and get your face punched in. This is true.

Which is what you need to do if you're going to go beat a fucking Khabib guy who wrestles bears. Yeah. Okay? That's what you have to do. And it's hard to want to grind in the gym when you have seven television shows that are making just as much money as the basketball is. It's hard to want to grind in the gym when you have numerous championships numerous mvps numerous accolades where you can sleep and say yeah i was one of the greatest basketball players of all time unless you're the rock the rock don't stop good point rents to clanging and banging the rents do

one is that from jj watt i think that's from jj watt no he's definitely said it before and used it yeah i think jj watt launched the success is not owned, it's leased, and rent is due every day. I think that's potentially a J.J. Watt quote. No, I know The Rock had merch with rents due on it for a fact. I saw it in Dick's Sporting Goods. So you're telling me J.J. Watt jacked that from The Rock? Or The Rock jacked it from J.J. I'm pretty sure it's an age-old expression.

Old quote, yeah. But I've heard J.J. Watt say it. You guys are saying unknown? I saw The Rock. It might be unknown, yeah. Unknown gets a lot of fucking accolades, too. Old quote, yeah. But I've heard J.J. Watson and I saw The Rock. It might be unknown, yeah? Unknown gets a lot of fucking accolades, too. One of the best. And The Rock and J.J.,

very similar humans, kind of. How? Both monsters. Outside of them both being jacked. They're both very motivational. And both incredible at what they do. Yep. Very rich. I'd assume businessmen. I don't know how J.J.'s business is. uh they're both very motivational and both incredible what they do yep very rich i'd assume businessman i don't know how jj's business is the rock is a businessman you just just launched

uh new ear pods today from under armor from himself from under armor yeah he might have a stake in under armor i think he does i think he does i think his line of stuff is doing very very well zito. Zito. Fucking Zito went to Dick's and spent $600 on Brock merch. Yeah, and then they didn't take the fucking thing off, so he just took scissors to it and cut the thing off. Cut the shirt. That was the billionaire moment.

He did it, and I was like, yep, you're a billionaire. He just sliced into the shirt he just spent fucking $100 on. Nah, we're going to take that. They said they were taking off. I'll take it off. It came in camouflage. He's a fucking idiot. Lovable, but a fucking idiot.

JJ Watts sent a DM on the Twitter today. Oh, that's right. Mentioning that I potentially got robbed out of that monday night football gig very nice of him he doesn't follow me on instagram though so i unfollowed him you know what i mean yeah i follow him on twitter but he doesn't follow me on instagram so i unfollowed because i watched his ig story and i couldn't send a message to him i was gonna send a message on one of his ig stories and i was like wait a minute does he just turn off his ig messages to everybody there smart move by, by the way, JJ.

That's what I said. Smart move. And then I click on his name and I go to following. And then you just start typing in your name at the top there. And my name didn't pop. There's no PAs. And I'm like, I'm fucking out. See you later, bub.

See you later, bub. But we still have a twolationship. So I don't know how I feel about it. I'm not big on the Instagram anyways. I was trying there for a little bit. It's a lot of work. It's not easy. I'm so invested in the Twitter.

Right. I'm so invested in the Twitter. Well, and that's the thing. If you wanted to, the amount of probably pictures that you have that are just insane that you could put on there would be awesome. It's quite a flex, too. Right. It's a different game.

Everything on Instagram is a flex. Everything on Instagram is a flex. They're taking away the likes too. They're experimenting with it. What do you mean? They said it's either going to be for some users where it doesn't show likes on any of their pictures and then they're really going to limit

like, so for example, when D. Wade posted that picture of his baby and people were just fucking going at the baby big time, they're going to get rid of likes on comments underneath it. So they don't float to the top. Exactly. So you're not promoting guys going on there roasting people because that's what gets all the likes. That's the best part about Twitter. The comments.

I disagree. I put out heaters of twitter just if somebody's gonna show up in my comments with a better comment than me i respect it right i'm saying it's an anomaly it's not gonna happen often but i do respect the thread and the adding on to yeah like on a viral tweet i don't think i do enough of that on anybody i don't do enough of the commenting on other IG posts. I don't do enough of commenting on other people's tweets. Almost because I feel bad. Like I don't want to go in there.

You know what I mean? I always feel like I don't want to go in there. That's their thing. I don't want to go in there. But people make an entire living off of that. Twitter especially, if you went in and commented under someone else's thing, people are just going to start responding to you. Yeah, we'll get right to the top.

Their tweet will get erased. Yeah, now I'm talking, and then somebody will be like, oh, fucking asshole. I feel like the person that sent out the original tweet would potentially get a little bitter with me. For sure. So I just stay in my lane on the Twitter and on the Instagram. I just stay in my lane.

Commenting on comments in my comments, by the way, is something I've been told i have to do by all the ig people and i'm like i don't that's not for me to do but i've been doing it i've been answering these people it's just too much work it is it's an extra job you get thousands of comments on every single time you post something what are you supposed to go through and reply to every third comment people do by the way i know i watch people that they literally reply to every single comment in there. And then Gary Vee is out there telling me,

I see you not commenting on other people's comments in your comments. And it's like, am I supposed to comment on comments in my comments? I thought that's what the original caption... I'll comment on something if I genuinely am interested or it makes me laugh or something like that. I'll acknowledge it.

But otherwise, it's like, all right, yeah, I get it. I see it. I just recently started liking people's comments. Yeah, I do that. I'll acknowledge it. But otherwise, it's like, all right, yeah, I get it. I see it. I just recently started liking people's comments. I'm a big fan of that. I don't like anybody's tweets. I don't do that. Yeah, I've noticed that.

A like means nothing. That is true. It is true. A like means absolutely nothing on Twitter. A retweet is everything. A retweet is a commercial of your TV show on somebody else's TV show. So if you're not tweeting for retweets, you're not playing the tweeter right.

Retweets are king on Twitter. Likes, I don't fully comprehend them. It's like, oh, I saw what you tweeted there. Pretty much. That's basically what it says. I feel like likes are for people who tweet at celebrities. Like, oh, it was so great meeting you today, so-and-so. And then the celebrity likes that just to verify verify like yeah i saw this thank you i think everybody

who tweets me needs to know that i've seen it just know that i've seen it if you've tweeted me i have seen it and if i didn't see it now later when i got nothing going on or i'm on a plane with no wi-fi i'm gonna scroll back and i'm gonna see it just know that i see it and you might get muted too just know that that is a very possible that is a very possible thing um yeah somebody somebody tweeted that aria was a g on sunday i tweeted that aria is such a g after she caught the knife thing and stabbed the thing, and then the thing did the thing. And then saved the thing in the wheelchair. Yep, you bet. I said, Aria is such a G. That one out, blah, blah, blah, kept going.

Some girl tweeted me that I stole her tweet. Yeah, I don't understand that shit. Because she, in a sentence, said the same thing. Not what I said a sentence said the same thing not what i said but in the same thing and then she circled the number of likes she had and circled the number of likes i had she had like 11 likes and i had like 21 000 or something like that and she was like uh that's the difference blah blah blah blah stolen tweet and i was like uh bitch you don't even know what we're looking for here. I was on a reply like, hey, those likes mean nothing, lady. I am very sorry, but the likes mean absolutely nothing. Let's go ahead and circle the retweets over there.

That's the real number. You actually covered up what mattered with your circle. When we highlight that number more, that would be good. Well, and it's just common sense. You don't follow her. How the hell would you see that tweet? um well it's just common sense like you don't follow her how the hell would you see that tweet i i wouldn't let her know that i'm honored that my brain thought the same thing of her incredible exactly i wanted to tell her exactly i say that very often in the office yep if your brain thinks

of something and you can genuinely say that you didn't know that it was thought of before and said thing has already been a success story you should feel good that your brain is on the same page as something that is successful that should make you feel good it should make you feel bad it should make you feel good now granted you can't run with it because it's already been taken you have to think of something else but you should give your brain a little uh hey hey hey brain look at you thinking of something good look at you even though somebody else did it first and it became very successful and they're living on an island because of it, you still thought of it. You should feel good about whatever comes next.

I think we should have more of that. And that's my declaration on my birthday. And this is the show. It's Thursday. This will be the first time we do this. A little throwback Thursday. We're going to throw back to a Heartland Radio episode last week where an interview happened with two of the horse soldiers from the movie 12 Strong and the documentary Legion of Brothers. Their green berets came into the office and we just peppered them with questions about a mission where they were sent

on horseback into afghanistan weeks after 9-11 and told by the united states government to figure it out and went to like 45 different wars that's all they did just went to war every single day for three months four months and to hear them tell the story uh that was expressed and displayed in the movie 12 strong is incredible and drink their bourbon whiskey called horse soldier bourbon whiskey it tastes good and after this story you're going to be like oh i really want these two guys to become very rich and they're the ones that own the bourbon whiskey horse soldier so i think you're going to enjoy the hell out of this. Thanks for listening to my birthday episode here of Pat McFish at 2.0. If you could tell your friends to listen, that'd be great.

Always welcome new people to the party here. If you want to tweet at ESPN, tell them thanks for considering me. But ultimately... fucked up i mean i didn't want to say it i was trying to figure out another way to describe but i couldn't uh that'd be great hashtag end gang hashtag end game um go ahead and send something for me to think about in this 32nd year of my life. Whether it's a potential thing I should buy, a potential life thought, a picture of something that you find funny,

just something to make me laugh or feel good here on my birthday. I'd appreciate it immensely. Hashtag end game, hashtag end game, three and a half hour movie. Send me something to make me laugh or smile or think about here in my 32nd year. Shout out to Evan Foxey for being here. Thank you. Big thanks to Nick and Ty for buying me an actual birthday gift. You're welcome.

Happy birthday. Numerous birthday gifts. This will be remembered, by the way, Christmas bonus time. Oh, my God. This will be remembered and thought the way, Christmas bonus time. Oh, my God. This will be remembered and thought of well during Christmas bonus time. I'm just glad you liked it. Oh, yeah. This isn't for that.

Yeah. No, I could give a shit about the bonus. I'm just happy that you're happy on your birthday. We do it because we're friends. Christmas, a long time away. Yeah. You didn't even think about that. Absolutely not.

No way. I had a whole summer to get through. Whole summer? In the fall? Geez. Wow. Not a Christmas bonus think about that. Absolutely not. No way. I have a whole summer to get through. In the fall? Geez. Not a Christmas bonus thought of mine. Fox, you know it is in my mind. You're getting your gift today on the golf course. And you may or may not

be able to use it on the golf course. Oh, what'd you give me? Butter? No, you got your sleeve of golf balls. Did you really? Thank you, man. Pro Vs? You'll see. I'm going to lose those things quickly.

Know that. Somebody got me Pro Vs this one time for a golf outing. They're like, man, we're so happy you were in our group. Because when you're a celebrity at those charity golf outings, they pair you with a foursome. And I refuse to do that for this golf outing because it is punishment to the celebrity because you get paired with a foursome that you don't know

and you have to spend five hours together out of 18 holes. And if you get paired with a bad foursome, it is fucking hell. Let me tell you that. Everybody has a joke. For me, everybody had a joke they wanted to say, a beer they wanted to say a beer they wanted to chug and i was down to do it hey i'm here for a charity i'm here having a good time let's do it

but back in the day when i was throwing beers back there wasn't a lot of people that could keep up so now they're trying to impress me with drinking with me by hole eight we have a sloppy group of four men that i have to be with for another 10 holes babysit on the yes yes i had to drive three golf carts in one time i had to drive three golf carts in one and that was the last time i started i stopped showing up at those things i was like i can't do it all these people want to drink with me uh it's gonna get terrible how about i just bounce around my move was like i'm just gonna bounce around which is what foxy and i are gonna do i started doing that at other people's events though i started showing up late and then just bouncing around.

I was like, oh, I'm not going to be able to make it on time. I got this big thing happening, but I'll be able to bounce around if that's all right. They're like, perfect. I'm like, so any notables that are listening to the show, Leckler, Mangold, any of the other people, that's the move. You're busy in the morning. You'll come late and bounce around so you can get out of there because nobody really thinks about that, as you shouldn't.

You shouldn't, by the way, when you go to these charity golf i was like oh this is so much fun we're gonna be paired up with the person yeah that person's being cruel and unusually punished uh if you're a bad group there's good groups though there are good groups oh yeah for sure i've been paired with a group that like taught me how to golf better that was awesome right those people are awesome right but boy you get a bad group that's a miserable day for charity. It's terrible. What were you saying?

Well, speaking of us bouncing around, I was thinking about this earlier. You said, how do you think it's going to go? And you said you're going to hit some good ones, some bad ones. If I had to guess, though, you're going to be on fire, and I'm going to be hitting some good ones, and by the end of the round, we're going to come back to the boys, and you're going to say, if me and Foxy played in this thing, we would have won the belt.

I agree. That's probably what's going to happen. i want to let whoever knows out there whoever wins that belt out there yeah that shit's gonna be challenged like that you had hey that belt is least not owned no yep that belt is least not uh you're gonna have to earn that thing it's a good belt it's a great belt and four thousand000 cash. Hell of a long drive trophy. Hey, that long drive trophy is legit. I might steal that thing, to be honest. I've done a lot of these outings.

I've done a lot of these outings, worked them. Terrible guy. This one's top notch. I won't even sugarcoat it. It's top notch. Yeah, somebody's got to throw a 20-yard football for a potential half a stroke. Airsoft guns. It's top notch. Yeah, somebody's got to throw a 20-yard football for a potential half a stroke. It's like a— Airsoft guns.

It's like a mini putt-putt course on a real golf course. There's so much going on in every hole. It's a carnival. $4,000 up for grabs, though. Somebody's got to win it. And somebody needs to take that belt home. Let's go. And I can't wait to see who it is.

It's going to be soggy, though. They're going to have to battle some elements. But our champion needs to be able to battle a little bit of adversity. Need a little bit of grit. I can't wait for it. Hit us up. Fox and Aaron are going to be on a golf course all day. Everybody's going to be on a golf course all day.

Ty and Nick are going to be posted up at holes all by themselves, so go ahead and send them tweets as well. From everybody at our office to all of you we can't thank you enough here's some absolute american badasses uh putting a whole new perspective on life on this may 2nd 2019 i am so grateful to be living the life that i'm living on this birthday and i'm thankful for you cheers joining us in the studio two three, three really true American heroes. Our two guests today served as Green Berets since retired. They were part of a group of less than 100 Special Forces personnel that were sent to Afghanistan immediately following the 9-11 terrorist attacks,

and they were charged with this very simple mission. The 90-some of you that are going, dismantle the entire Taliban network and render the country of Afghanistan safe from terrorism from this point on. Pretty simple mission. And expel al-Qaeda. And expel al-Qaeda while you're at it. If you have time, also expel Al Qaeda. On horses.

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You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. 2012, their exploits were documented in the Emmy Award-winning documentary, Legion of Brothers, one of my favorite documentaries. The movie, 12 Strong, starring Chris Hemsworth, Michael Pena, Michael Shannon, and Rob Riggle. And this team, the horse soldiers, as they're referred to, are memorialized in a statue at Ground Zero at the World Trade Center. It's called America's Response Monument. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome retired Master Sergeant Scott Neal and Chief Warrant Officer for Bob Pennington. Hey!

Thank you very much. That's awesome. Thank you. We have two of the horse soldiers here in our studio. This is the most. That's wild. I've never been so honored to have two people step in here, I don't think. And I want to get started with, we covered real quickly,

I just kind of glazed over the fact that you're a team of 12. It's part of a, was it 90-some total? There was 90 Green Berets. There were other elements of the CIA and other special operators, too. So it's almost like the Doolittle raid after World War II, a little go-kart right afterwards, right? And yes, the key objectives were to secure the cities of Kandahar and Mazai, should I say that? Nailed it.

Well, there's no real plan, so we made it up as we went. Okay. That's what I wanted to get to right away. So they send this small element there, charge you with, I mean, pretty much, it would bring peace to the Middle East. That's what you're asked to do. And you basically had no higher command structure put in place there, like you would typically see in a war theater, right? Right.

So they were like, you guys know what you're doing. Just go do your thing. Did you have a sense when that happened, because it was represented as such in the movie, but this was a true suicide mission? You were going to go, and the odds of returning weren't great? Yes. Okay.

Thanks for the memories. You put it that way. I just saw my life. Yeah. No, I think, you know, just imagine being anybody and 9-11 happened, right? Right.

Everybody's saying, send me. You got the Delta Forces, the Sail Team Six of the world. You've got, you know, all the ninjas and ninjats wanting to go in. And really what had happened was nobody, they started making

this big battle plan. All the generals got around the table and they're already writing their books. And they wanted to have big airborne invasions, big land invasions. And then at the time, President Bush said, hold on a second. And it was really a small officer, very low in rank, said, why don't we just send in small teams of Green Berets and the agency, and let's go figure it out and see what the intel on a battle foot is.

And so that's how it started. so it was an intel mission it wasn't like uh hey you're gonna have to go to completely battle against an entire basically army of lunatics over there was an intel mission kind of get boots on the ground well it was twofold hoops the intel portion and also go battle because we knew we would fall into that. Got it. Yeah. So, you know, really Green Berets, what makes us different is we fight by, with, and through, right? We raise a guerrilla army. We inspire others to fight the battle for you.

And our motto is the free the oppressed. And what we found out is there was these different tribes and these different factions that the Taliban were just slaughtering wholesale for the last 10 years using all that old Russian equipment. And so that had pushed a lot of the Mujahideen fighters, or almost like Comanches and Apaches. They had went up in the mountains, and the only way to get around was either on horseback or Toyotas or something. So you had to find them and locate them and make them believe in the cause. I mean, before a team goes in, they actually get a briefing from the command, and they actually give them paperwork, and they give them intel to work their operations order off of.

So ours was like three pages. Here you go. Really? This is what we know. You guys go, shit. You guys go in a room and go plan and good luck holy shit

some guys somewhere in some country right are some bad guys and do some thing so

you know the movie was interesting it had a big hero named Chris Hemsworth. It had a love interest and all that, but the truth is really still untold. And there was just... And Bob really can tell you, how do you picture 2,500 horsemen riding over the mountains attacking 1,000 infantry? And this went on in multiple locations all across the country simultaneously.

And it was unknown to the command. They really didn't have a grasp. And some of us had slightly different missions. They all want to ask, who were you in the movie? But some of us were doing different things at different times to different people. Of course. And that was the mastery of the vision of the command at the time was just send small green berets, alone and unafraid, with a bag full of hand grenades to say, make it happen. And one of the things, if you guys saw 12 Strong, that was an accurate depiction was when they write us back and they say, hey, you guys need to get off your butt.

You need to get moving. What are you doing there? And we went, what the heck is he talking about? Are you crazy? We'd been in battle now for a good week and we'd been slaying left and right. And then all of a sudden we get this comes back at us. And so Chris Hemsworth or Mark Nooch, the commander, he gets fed up and he writes me, I'm at a different location. He goes, hey, Bob, I'm going to write this. And so he, of course, comes out and he writes him back and tells him, hey, you have no idea what we're going against right now. Basically, we're fighting a 19th century war on horseback. Wow. Using 21st century technology. But still, that was our maneuvering.

But guess what? It did pay off because the horses could go places the vehicles could not. So we were able to take the high ground on a lot of places and actually bring down scunion on the enemy. All right. lot of places and and actually bring down scunion on the enemy so when you all right so you show up and you you guys did you linked up with this general dotson that ran one particular faction or tribe uh and you did you know ahead of time that they were fighting from horseback or did you learn that like on the spot and how do you do it like you guys weren't experienced horsemen right prior to this oh well one guy was. Mark was one.

One of the 12. My experience came from, if you've ever been out in front of Walmart, you saw the little horse. Oh, yeah. It's gone up to 50 cent now. Inflation's a son of a bitch. It takes a very long time, I assume, to become a proficient

horseback rider, let alone to fight a war on the side of a mountain on one. Well, Mark had ridden in the rodeos. He had lassoed cows, everything else. Yeah. And so we had another guy that actually lives in Arizona right now. And he actually was a good, pretty decent horseman. But that was it.

The rest of the guys, we'd been on a horse once or twice in our lifetime. And then all of a sudden, and we, to answer your question earlier, we did not know that we would have horses. We actually thought that once we would get in the country, they would have vehicles for us. They did not. And they did not. And they did not. No. And they didn't even have enough horses for us.

Oh, great. So when you get there, you meet up with the CIA, I assume, initially, to link up with Dotson, the go-between. So what happens when you meet with the CIA? What was their plan? What knowledge did they pass on to you once you arrived? Well, normally the agency gets in two weeks prior to us. But because the weather had been bad, they were only in there maybe two days before us.

Okay. So they really hadn't. With a bag full of money. Yeah. So they were paying for your assistance from the local. They were. Okay. They were.

And we also came in with a little bit of cash to help out the situation. Typically, how much were you carrying around? We took in seven digits. Wow. Really? Yeah. That's why taxes... I had no idea.

That's why... It's only papers, right? Yeah. It's worth it, too, if we can save some of your life. In the movie, there's that one guy who's from Afghanistan that you have to team up with. He's kind of an asshole to Hemsworth through the whole thing. It's kind of the deal. Is that kind of what it's like whenever you say the Greenberry motto is work with, through, and that type of thing?

That's correct. And these people have been fighting each other, too. So imagine you have to go into this West Virginia holler, right? And they're separated by valleys and mountains. They hate each other. They're either fighting eachller, right, and they're separated by valleys and mountains. They hate each other. They're either fighting each other, right, or they're fighting together. It is truly the Game of Thrones. Hetfields and McCoys.

Yeah. That's what it's like, Hetfields and McCoys. Yeah. And these factions, they get together, right, to play poker, and then they pull each other's hair out. Yeah. That's how it works. Really?

Yeah, they'll get together a little bit, and then all of a sudden they'll punch each other's hair out. Yeah. That's how it works. Really? Yeah, they'll get together a little bit, and then all of a sudden they'll punch each other's. So you had no idea which one was going to be on your side? You had no, like rolling into some places. There were already bounties for capture of American soldiers. You know, it really was, there was no idea. They just needed somebody in there to start sorting it out and give information and intelligence.

I think the Air Force had, what, done about a week's worth of bombing? What, three huts? You know what I mean? Right. There's just this Afghanistan. There's no infrastructure in like a traditional battle. So you have to go in there. And let me tell you back up and tell you the training difference between the different special operations.

So special operations command, inside of that you have SEALs, and SEALs are good, you know, younger, fit, dynamic entry. Yeah, the toughest, the baddest, the best hair products. So, you know, and they have a mission. They're a tool in the toolbox. Then you have young rangers, which are from the Army. Then you have Delta Force for Haas's rescue. And you have SEAL Team 6.

And then you've got Green Berets are more like mountain men, right? They're kind of curious and unconventional. They don't listen well. They operate in small teams, probably in trouble most of the time. But they take others and they train them on basic infantry skills. We drop in pallets of weapons and bombs. Our special forces medics are like voodoo witch doctors, and they treat cattle and camels and dentistry and OBGYN for the village.

So you live with them, right? And you can't just jump in somewhere and the next day encourage somebody to fight. You have to actually have a bond and tell stories and be in the campfire and share and sacrifice. But they are diplomats. That's what our greatest asset is because we actually, what helped us win is we actually brought these different factions together. We had an area command meeting and we had all the commanders come together and said, hey, look, the way we got to win is we got to fight together.

Your timing was really good, too, because you had Massoud, the leader of the Northern Alliance, who got whacked two days before 9-11, so they were already fixing for a fight anyway. You get perfect timing to go. He was very well respected. He was one that all the other leaders would listen to, right? The Lion of Panjshir.

And then when you bring these people all together, how difficult is the language barrier? Do you have interpreters or are they speaking English? Are you guys speaking multiple languages? You're actually speaking through interpreters because they all have different languages. Some speak Farsi. Some speak Arabic. Pashto. Yeah.

Russian. So it was Russian. Dustin spoke. He spoke Russian. So it was Russian. Dustin spoke, he spoke Russian. He spoke it pretty well. Some of us could speak Russian and we could understand some of it. So that kind of helped us there. On the other side, we were a lot, a lot of us were Arabic speakers. So we didn't, that really didn't come into play as much.

There was maybe one or two Arabic speakers, but that's about it. Wow. In my head, that meeting of all the leaders is like a mafia meeting where like all the families come in. Mr. Blue, Mr. White, each one of them had an army. And yeah, you have to deal with like, hey, this guy might have fucked over this guy in the past. And you kind of like somehow say, hey, let's put our swords away. It's the same thing, but different cousins and brothers were in different armies. So they would actually give each other the courtesy before they fought

to send over their relatives from the other side. Really? Right? And so the war was very gentlemanly over there. You would discuss it. You would talk about it. You would agree to it, and that was it. And you would offer the enemy a chance to surrender the night before.

Wow. Yeah, many times, Dustin would call. He'd call to a village that we were about to just bomb the shit out of. And he would call them up and say, hey, guys, the Americans are here with me. They got planes. They're rolling overhead right now. And we had like two or three planes loitering, just ready. And he'd go, hey, so what do you guys want to do?

You hear those planes up there? And you could actually see the back door open, and they'd start flying out. Really? Yeah. But the good Taliban, because there's bad Taliban and there's good Taliban. Wait a minute. And the good Taliban would stay there, and then they would join forces with Dostum. So now we continue to just build this army.

Like a snowball rolling down. Like a snowball rolling down. Everybody likes a winner. Yeah, and as we... Not with them. Not with them right there. You can't be up, join them. Hey, wait a minute.

Doesn't Dostum have money too? By the way, we have a million dollars in our backpacks, if that helps. That's incredible. Your unit in particular, I read that the average age was 32 years old in your team. Is that unusually mature for a Green Beret team? No. Okay, so that's typical.

So Green Berets come from the regular Army. You say you're in for five years or so, and you try out in the Special Forces Assessment Selection Course. Usually you have about 300-odd tryout. Out of that 60, you'll make it through, but only 40 will get selected. And then you start a year to two years' worth of training in your specialty from learning foreign languages to Special Forces medic and engineer, commo sergeant.

And then you go to your first team. And some of the people on that team stay until they retire. So when I joined the Green Berets in 93, the team I went on had raised the Mujahideen in Kuwait. And Bob was already there, had fought in the first Gulf War. So some of these people are already legends. And you're just a young spitfire Green Beret, and they sit you down and say, shut up. Just watch. and they sit you down and say, shut up. Just watch.

Yeah, I mean, we had five guys on our team that saw combat already. Either it was in Desert Storm or it was Somalia or some other place. Bosnia. Bosnia. What's the test to get in? Everybody knows the Navy SEALs, BUDs. What is the test? Speedos, right, hair care. You can tell it's fun being the only seal in this.

By the way, Bill is part of this group as well. Very accomplished Navy SEAL himself. As you can see, though, he doesn't wear hair care products anymore. You guys have buried him so much. You don't deserve it. So special forces selection is about three weeks. You start off with just individual tasks, run five miles,

walk 12 miles, do a physical fitness test. And you know, it's all about you, right? Your performance. This is a basic qualifier. Oh yeah.

Are you physically capable enough? It really is just to start tiring you down. And then they put you into what they call team week. And they put you together with a group of people you never met in your life. There's no rank, there's no name, just a number. And the first test, and really Bob should be telling us because he ran it, right? Okay. Is they have a Jeep with only three wheels, right? And a piece of rope and two poles. And they bring somebody over, number 26, come here. Here's your mission.

I want you to take that tank of your people, and I want you to meet us at this grid coordinate in four hours. What are your questions? Get going. And you have to lead, organize, compel people you never met, and figure out a plan and start moving. And there's people who just crack. They can't operate that way, right?

Now, unlike Butch, because they will yell at you at buds, there is no yelling in selection at all. There is none. You're given a task to do it, and then the instructor will sit back, and he will grade you, and he will not say a word. No encouragement. So versus encouragement at all. all yeah we'll just see

because in the buds it seems like they're trying to mentally break you down obviously you guys since you're so much diplomacy involved in it's like hey we need like actual gentlemen to get in here like like the maturity of a man is a big deal it's because the missions are unscripted you know what i mean you need somebody that's quiet and confident and capable and can follow minimal guidance and just get the job done just shut up and get the damn job done i can't even imagine just the fact that hey connor me too connor why don't you take a little bit from this just shut up and get the job that's incredible i just can't imagine the responsibility that comes with uh being charged with something like this. They're like, hey, we just had this attack in U.S. soil.

The person or people responsible are over in there somewhere. We don't really know what's going on around it, but they're over there in there somewhere, and there's a problem. We need to have you guys go over there and figure out what's going on and put an end to it. It's almost like being an expeditionary entrepreneur, right? You just make it up as you go. Your team has been together for so many years. You know sideways in the night who's who, what they'll do, how they'll react. And that's the thing about just being calm.

You can't shoot your way out of the problem, right? You have to think your way out of the problem. Was that hard after 9-11 being so emotional to remain calm and just think it through analytically? Yeah. Yeah. It was easy. No, I mean, really, it was. It was because it was... My thought process was, hey, look, we got a job to do in front of us. Don't let emotions take you over. Just do the job. And the enemy, believe it or not, can feed off of your emotions as well. So if you're on the battlefield, and I told this to a couple of people, if you're on the battlefield and you're showing nothing,

absolutely no compassion or no remorse, they're scared to death because they're watching you going, holy cow, these guys nothing is fluttering them right now. They're not bothered by anything. And there's nothing like a massive B-52 strike. Just like calm, cool. Yeah, you hear that up there?

There's some shit coming. You guys don't know yet. And there we go. So he talked about the diplomat, the medical services, the project management or project engineer aspect of being a Green Beret. Let's talk a minute about the warrior aspect of being a Green Beret. When you put boots to ground over there and you started to bring all the elements together to accomplish what needed to be done,

and you had to actually get on horseback and go out there. First enemy contact, can you describe that for us, what happened and where it was? Yes, that was, well, for me it was later on. The first action took place, the first day we were there we called in planes. We called in the airstrike. But what I need to do is go back to once we landed, we got off the bird. It was a helicopter, Chinook, and made our way to the base camp. And then, you know, they put us up for the night.

Well, the next morning, here comes Dawson. Dawson was not depicted as he was in the movie. The movie, he's an asshole. Yes. In real life, he was not. In real life, he was not. In real life, he saw us, he goes, I mean, he met us and the first thing out of his mouth was,

are you guys ready to fight? Absolutely. He rolls out this big map. It's as big as two of these tables. He rolls it out and you can tell he had done some planning. And he goes, well, here's what I'd like to talk about and it was me mark and the team sergeant we're all looking at this map with the agency guys

with us and dawson and uh one of the agency guys was a very good interpreter and he sat there and we looked at the map and we went mark and i looked at each other went went, man, this guy, he's on it. So it was well done. He's got a plan. Yeah, he's got a plan. We just need to tweak it a little as we start to roll. Right. Because we knew it would change. What we didn't know was how fast we would move.

Okay. But we moved that day. That day we sent six guys up because we didn't have enough horses, as I said earlier. guys up because we didn't have enough horses as I said earlier. The other six stayed back and received some resupply drops that came in because we needed more radios and some more equipment that we couldn't bring in because you couldn't take the weight, you couldn't carry enough weight in the helicopter to get over the mountains. Oh, because of the altitude. Yes.

Okay. This is why people, they come up to me and they go well you win it what'd you go in with i said well i didn't go in with body armor and a helmet like everybody else and he went what i said yeah i said because we couldn't get over we couldn't get over the mountains with that that weight wow so we dropped all that off which actually ended up building rapport because you didn't walk in like so yeah we were fighting like them we were just like them couple questions there go ahead how do you decide who stays back in the group is that like a card game like hey all right losers got to stay back no because we the the team is actually

split already into an alpha and a bravo element i command the bravo element mark commands the alpha element so a 12-man team breaks into two 6-man teams. But we can break down even further. Each of those elements can then break down into two 3-man. So you can have four 3-man, which we were the only team to actually do that in combat. We actually broke down into four 3-man teams to flood the battlefield with our fighters. Is that just based on specialty? The three-man team?

In a sense, it's based on specialty, but... Necessity. But also, we were all cross-trained anyways. Okay, so you could all do each other's job. Yes. But for me, yes, because I had to still command the six guys, and Mark had to do the same on his side.

So Dostum, am I saying his name right? Dostum. Dostum. Dostum. He was basically just waiting for somebody to come out. Absolutely. He was ready. He was absolutely – it was almost like it's about time that you guys got your time together.

And the intel we got on him was that he had diabetes. He had a bad leg. He walked with an extreme limp. He was old, decrepit. He couldn't move around. All false. All false. This guy comes riding in the morning that we got in there.

We got in like, I think we landed like 0-2-30 in the morning. He comes in around 0-7-30 or 0-800, and he comes riding in, jumps off his horse, greets us with a handshake. Hey, let's roll. Okay. He must be drinking horse soldier bourbon. He must be drinking horse soldier bourbon Were the two of you individually separated Because of the spifercation That took place with the two 613s

There's where the split is I had a little different mission Nobody really seen in the mission In the movie or anything I was what they were called The commanders in extremist forces We were basically the ninjas in the night And as Bob's team would start pushing

Al-Qaeda leaders and generals off the battlefield, we would visit them at night and give them special kisses and hugs. Oh, yeah? And what it was was the Taliban started thinking their leaders were abandoning them, and they were cowards. So it was part of that total battle that you really don't understand, and the enemy didn't understand. But there are creatures that go bump in the night.

And so none of us knew what the other teams were doing in case we were captured and interrogated. Smart. So we were occupying behind the lines. We were creeping and crawling. Bob's team was, once again, efficiently just battlefield tactics, using cavalry to position and maneuver against the Taliban. In the middle of the night, when they go back and plan and coordinate, we would hit them very quickly, almost like a midnight raid.

But in a sense, his teams were used as a diversionary tactic because the Taliban were smart enough to push communications all over, just like the Northern Alliance was. So they're telling them, hey, we're getting hit down here, we're getting hit down here, we're getting hit down here. So they were hitting them down south while we were doing our operations up north. So they would prepare for more down south. So that's what people, there's a lot of things people don't know about.

So you're a diversionary, kind of a terrorist of your own. Terrorized terrorists, right? Let's get all of them to do with it. Hey, fire with fire, bro. Yeah.

Was there any firefights at night or were those mostly recon missions for you guys? Oh, there was lots of firefights at night. There was lots

of joyous victories. You know, there was some hand-to-hand battles, right? When you get up very close with each other. Especially, you know, we're all kitted out with night vision goggles and lasers. And you've got people that just don't expect that to be the front lines.

And so they were safe and secure. And then all of a sudden in comes, you know, some ninjas in the middle of the night. The boogeymen. How many? How many? You would roll into, roll into an entire village? Anywhere from... No, uh-uh. So different compounds. So we're very precise like a scalpel. So anywhere from 20 guys against 20 Taliban leaders, whatever the mission called for, all the way up to 60. And

there for a while, we started adding the Canadians and all the other countries that started coming in. So special operations are special missions. And in the special missions, you have unconventional warfare, which is what Bob's team did. You'd have special reconnaissance, which is small teams hiding on a cliff, you know, looking for miles. And then you have direct action, right? And that direct action, you know, you can go from raiding a bridge or taking over a dam or something like that, or you can go right in to find that one person, kill and capture. Wow.

Were you guys ever gathering intel on the whereabouts of bin Laden? All the time. Every day. And if so, how close did you feel you were to his whereabouts at any time? Well, we actually thought he was up in the bulk valley Because we were told And as we moved up through the Darius Suf And into

Layman's terms What does that mean? Darius Suf is the valley of the caves That's on the northern side or the southern? It's on the northern side Where you were Yeah that's where we were We kind of made our way up that

Into Mazar Alright And off to the west was the bulk area. And we had actually information that we thought that Bin Laden was there. Yeah. It's where's Waldo. Yeah. So you had to –

You get it all the time. Yeah. So you have to decipher all of that, you know, and that's where the intel services come in, and it's just the massive amount. Imagine just giving each one of you a piece of a jigsaw puzzle, and you have to describe it to each other and try to get the picture. So you just had to break a lot of eggs and put things together, and then finally you had Tora Bora, which was the cave complexes right before Pakistan

and what went on there. And literally, you think about it, 90 days, 90 Green Berets, other special operators had just overtaken the country like that. High five, we're done. Take your country back. See you later. Was this by far the first time that American Special Forces element had fought in this manner?

No. Okay, so this was... In recent history, though? No, I mean, talk about recent history. So recent history, 40 years, you started with the Iranian hostage rescue and that attempts to go into another country. You go into fighting the FARC in Colombia,

in El Salvador and Nicaragua, in the jungles of Panama. Panama itself was really fought by Green Berets in the back areas of there. Then you get into Haiti. Then you get into Somalia. It was actually Green Berets sitting on the beach welcoming the Marines and SEALs who Hollywooded it in that day. So what people don't know is that you guys were selected because you had been doing this all along. It just wasn't part of something that had gathered so much public attention.

Right now, in over 50 countries at any one time, there's a team of SEALs or Green Berets, you know what I mean, taking care of things, either escalating, de-escalating, training other nations, doing some type of a mission. Every day, it goes on. And some of the things will never be known, ever. And some things finally spilled where you just can't contain it anymore. And then, even though we're not there anymore, guess who's left behind? So small teams, do you know what I mean? Keep the relationship. Just like Iraq, you see ISIS now.

You see the Philippines, right, and what's going on in Indonesia. You got Sri Lanka, what just happened. So I guarantee you there is some small team just like this room right here of people asked to sort it out. And that's what makes us different is when we go into these countries, build we build a personalities we've got a cultural understanding we're in there so long that we now these people they hate for us to even go so we stay for an extended amount of time just to understand tell me about uzbekistan before even 9-11 oh yeah that's uh when we went into uzbekistan. That's kind of – that was a good trip. That was in 2000.

Yeah, I mean, it was good on many accounts. Okay, how so? What were you there for? What were you there for? What happened? How do we – that's Russian, right? They're speaking Russian over there? But 2000, we went into Uzbekistan, and we actually trained a company of airborne Spetsnaz, the Russian Special Forces.

So we trained them, and during our time that we trained them, they were actually, the country itself had an Islamic movement of Uzbekistan, the IMU, which was Al-Qaeda, actually in their back door. And they were setting up base camps. So the unit we trained actually went into combat at the time we were there. So we were begging our guys, hey, can you please let us go in here and help fight them? At that time, we didn't really get into those kinds of scrapes. So they were like, no, no, no, no. And it was the defense attache that wouldn't let us go there

because he thought it would trigger off some international incident. Which happened anyway. Yeah, basically happened anyway. But our guys at Soxhead down in Florida, they were all, yeah, go. You guys go do that voodoo that you do so well. you guys go, you know, go do that voodoo that you do so well. The amount of freedom it sounds like that is bestowed upon the Green Berets is something I assume it's a lot of pressure on me because international tensions could flare up at any given point. It was Pakistan, all those places. Is that something that you have to prepare for?

Obviously, like, hey, if we step on any toes here, there could be a big fucking problem. Absolutely. So like we talked about a sergeant, a special forces sergeant, either goes through communication, AM, FM, Morse code, high frequency, antenna theory. All of those skills, the special forces commander, the captain, goes to the CIA, goes to Department of State. He goes through all the different agencies to build relationships because that's where you need to function when you're overseas. And you have USAID that has resources that could help villages with wells. You know, you have Department of Agriculture, which can bring in, you know, various resources. So the team leader is more of, you know, the coordinator and diplomat.

The team sergeant is just the big monster, the silverback gorilla. He's been there the longest. So all of these skills are in concert at all times. And you never know exactly how the mission turns. So sometimes you're more prominent when it is just a medical mission. We did them in the 90s in Kenya, taking doctors and vets, because the government wouldn't service the villagers in the entire country. So you just accept the mission.

This is your mission. And you plan for it over three days, and you just execute it until you come home. Did you hate that the movie came out? Because you said a lot of things happen are never going to be heard about. Just like the guy that killed bin Laden, obviously there's the Zero Dark Thirty movie

that came out. It always seems like the actual warriors aren't the ones that end up leaking the information. It's other people. And then on the back end, you kind of have to clean it all up. Is that kind of the situation that the horse soldiers are in as well? Well, it depicted the teams. So diplomatic.

Yeah. Give me a nice politically correct answer here. Do whatever you got to do. Well, it actually depicted the teams the right way. It actually made SF look good. And it showed how the teams actually broke down, or the team itself broke down into small elements. It did show that.

And it did show how we worked with the Northern Alliance. It did show that. But it was far off on a lot of things. Were you scared to watch a movie? No, no. Because of fear of that? Like, I don't want to watch how they depicted this whole thing, like that type of situation?

No, no, that didn't bother me at all. It was the idea. It was, I guess, yeah, in a sense, I just wanted it to be good and correct. But as a whole, I wanted to make SF look good, Special Forces look good, make Green Berets look good. That's what I wanted. We don't quite have the portfolio of movies.

What did they have wrong? What did they do wrong? What did they depict incorrectly? Or how much in your estimation was accurate and how much was just complete Hollywood bullshit? Well, one is, like I told you about Dostum, they made Dostum look like an ass. He wasn't.

Dostum was ready to fight. And we had built a large army, bigger than depicted on the screen. I mean, actually I think we were all said and done. We had 35 to 4,000. Oh, wow. Fighters. Yeah and done. We had 35 to 4,000. Oh, wow.

Fighters. Yeah, fighters. I mean, it's very impressive. And some of the things we did were even more dangerous than it showed, like picking up equipment in minefields because we had to have it to move on to the next mission. They never showed that. They talked about minefields, but they really didn't cover it. I assume they're everywhere. Everywhere. They never showed that. They talked about minefields, but they really didn't cover it.

I assume they're everywhere. Everywhere. Was that the worst terrain that you guys served in? Yeah, that was bad. Oh, yeah. Mother nature. It was cold as well, right? It was cold. It rained.

It was cold. It snowed. We had everything fall on us the entire time. I mean, it was just It was brutal Because you arrived in October We arrived in October

And you Left in what December January We left We left K2 In January To go back to the States

Okay So you're still there Until about June Okay Oh you were there Really So then you had the 82nd John Petraeus come in. No, the 101st. And he was like,

turn the war back on. And so they wanted another battle. Turn it back on. But we never... Excuse me. Excuse me. We're going to turn that motherfucker back on. He was on the airfield going, are these my men?

No, sir. We're good. Yeah, and we'd had an was. He was on the airfield going, are these my men? Right here? No, sir. We're good. Yeah, and we'd had anaconda. You guys saw Stripes, right? Yeah. You guys saw Stripes? Yeah. No, sir.

Here's your men coming next. Were you guys ever teaming up with Bill's group, like the Seals or the other? All the time. OK. So once it got a little out of the unconventional by, with, and through, and it got more deliberate, you just kept punching, punching, punching, then it was a multinational force. So that's when the Germans wanted to help, and the British, and the Australians, the Canadians, all the more. It turned from unconventional to a direct action campaign.

It was supported by other unconventional teams that had raised another army. And part of this whole strategy, which has always been part of our doctrine, this is how you fight your battle, had just come about. There was an execution of a plan that wasn't a plan. So by the time they really disbanded Al-Qaeda, they had no more influence and control. Check. Mission complete. Taliban is no longer in central government power and executing coordinated efforts. Check. Where in the hell's bin Laden?

Okay, that's when we had to keep counterpunching and finding and counterpunching. But at the time, what we were told and asked all of our teams to do was very simple, was defeat the Taliban, right, and expel al-Qaeda out of Afghanistan. War's over. Handshake. High five. And you did that in three months. Three months. You accomplished that in three fucking months. Yes. Jesus Christ. Thank you. You're welcome.

But we did continue to collect intelligence. We had to. The intelligence piece was collecting on the factions to make sure that when we did leave, we handed it off to someone else who was coming in and said, hey, this guy plays well with others. Well, this guy doesn't. Yeah, because – I mean, really. So the Pentagon had – they could rely on the architecture you guys had created there.

Basically, you knew the entire layout. This is who works with who. This is how you get this done. The other thing – layout this is who works with who this is how you get this done and then what so when i didn't mean to interrupt but when you leave after that point when most of the people leave you stayed behind scott what happens from december to june is it just basically wreak havoc seeking destroy we're going to find bin laden we're going to hit this hit this hit this yeah so we started hitting a target that intelligence would drive us to so you had commanders that you know have fled to

compounds and trying to reorganize different factions you to. So you had commanders that have fled to compounds and trying to reorganize different factions, rally support. You had other high intelligence. We had Osama bin Laden's doctor identified. They needed to get together and meet, right? Because if it was electronic, we knew exactly where they were. So they had to meet in person. So anytime you saw more than three cars, you knew something was going on. It was a party, right? So you had to have constant pressure. In military, it is about pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure.

It keeps people disorganized. Then you can handle and mop up things. Then you can negotiate for peace. Once again, the Afghans have a way of war. And you're on my side or you're on your side. Are you coming to my side or are you going to your side? They accept it. And once they shake your hand and commit to it, they're on your side.

Until momentum changes, then you're on their side. Right? So that's what we're facing now, right? Momentum has shifted and Taliban has taken back over. And now more people are loyal to them than the central government. Can I visit? I thought you wanted to play in the spring basketball league. Oh, I respect that.

Can I visit back to you being a ninja in the night? Sure. Okay. So you're just rolling into these compounds with a group of how many? 15, 20, 60. Are you hiding out all day until it is night for you to get in, or how is it? Are you leaving, coming, going?

We have multiple ways to infill, whether it's airborne, air assault, vehicles, walking. You analyze the mission right in front of you. There's this compound. There's 50 houses around it. They can hear the helicopters coming because of the height of the mountains around it. We have everything in our arsenal. You truly plan your own mission, and then you tell the leadership what assets you need, the type of guns you need, right, the distances you'll be engaging, the type of aircraft that'll support you in case things go

wrong. You just bond the piss out of it and scoop it up later, right? So all of these things become part of your planning mission. And I can show you in a dirt hut us making mock villages out of cartons of food. Like driving X's and O's and backyard football. Oh, yeah, same thing, right? And so we plan our mission ourselves. We would ask for the assets, whether it was helicopters or gun jeeps or something. We had it all there for us. And just like here, we'd kit up, and we'd just fly out there and knock it out that night.

So you would drop off. Sometimes I assume you're just creeping in by foot. Creeping in by foot, whatever you want to do. So let me get real personal with you, and you can tell me you don't want to go that far if you don't want to. You see in movies, you guys creeping in, middle of the night. There's sentries or whatever, like a fire watch walking around or whatever. Sneak up with the wire, the garrotte boom you move past yeah is that that real shit real life shit just like well i cover his mouth so he doesn't make a noise you pick him up their feet are still running because they don't see at night because they usually go in when the

lunar you know his cycle is down so you can't see at night you use suppressed weapons you use silenced weapons you use hatchets you know whatever wait a fucking minute so you can't see at night. You use suppressed weapons. You use silenced weapons. You use hatchets, whatever it takes. Wait a fucking minute. So you're hiding behind like a wall. Fucking Gary Blunt. Yeah, you're hiding behind a wall. And a guy walks by just like in a movie. And you fucking just snag that guy, grab him by his mouth so he can't talk,

and just fucking boom. I'm going to grab his mouth if you do it quickly. There you go. Before he can even yell. It's just like, boom, he's dead. Throw him down. And now you've got to move on to the – Or you have snipers in Overwatch that use suppressed weapons that take him out.

They'll be a few inches from you. And, I mean, that's how you train. I mean, you – Bad-ass motherfucker right there. I mean, Hollywood got some shit, right? I mean, that's – There's been a battle. I had a friend, Tony, who's probably, he was the army power lifter of all of Europe.

His fingers were the size of this water bottle right here, right? He ended up doing hand-to-hand in one room with four guys and killing them all. Wow. With a broken clavicle. Wow. Right? And so you just got to do it. And sometimes you'll run into a room and guys will surrender right there.

Sometimes they'll start shooting. And you're just going. We had a guy who couldn't do a podcast because he broke his clavicle following a fucking scooter. There you go. Yeah. You got a guy. He killed four people.

That sounds like an exaggeration. With his bare hand. He tried to go home. So with all that in mind, obviously, I mean, if people listening to the show knew nothing about Special Forces or Green Braves or Navy SEALs up to this point, everybody has a sense right now. It's a very unique member of the military,

very intelligent people, very creative people, like unique people, right? But you're creeping in the middle of the night You're doing what you've got to do to other human beings In order to get the job done You leave that Boom, you have to fly home Bob Hey family, here I am

After going through that For several months or a year How do you turn that off in your brain? How do you become Bob the father Or Scott the husband overnight? Yeah, and it depends on what trip you go on to because when we left, believe it or not, and you guys probably don't know this, when we left.

I guarantee we don't know it. I don't know it. When we left Uzbekistan, when we came out of Afghanistan and then left Uzbekistan, we'd already known we were going to Iraq. Really? Wow. Yeah. So when I went home, it was, and I tell my wife, I would tell her, hey, I don't want to see anybody at the house. I mean, I don't care if it's brothers, sisters, family, nobody, except for my kids and my wife. And for two weeks, it has to be that way.

I don't want to see anybody else. But when I came home on this one, I already knew I was going somewhere. But I didn't go home and tell her, hey, I'm getting ready to do this. So I came home, hey, we're going to go in here. We're going to clean our stuff up for like a week or so. And then, you want to take some leave? Okay, we'll take some leave. Then I got to come back and start training again.

Are you going somewhere else? Well, no, but we still got to be sharp. So it's simple, just simple like that. You have to balance that, right? That's a real balance that you have to do is balance the family because you know you're not going to have a lot of time back at home. And you already know another mission's coming, which you're probably already trying to prepare for.

And some people can do it and some people can't. And that's even in our line of work. We have people that actually it has failed them. It was too much for them. They had to say, hey, I got to go. I'm done. Sure. I did my part and I'm out.

Imagine it's very hard to turn that off when you're home. I did this. I was in for 30 plus years. I did over 26 as a Green Beret. Wow. Holy shit. Yeah. Hey!

That's a long time. There needs to be more movies about your motherfucking ass. Jesus. I keep telling Scotty that. I'm going to write you one, man. But if you think about it, the same group went home, and then there was the evasion of Iraq. So you think about the Kurds up north, the WMD, the capitulation of Iraqi generals and all this other stuff.

It was the same group of people that went in there. Hey, war is easy, right? 90 days, we thought we were done. And then they sent us into Africa because you had foreign fighters coming through. And then it just kept going and going and going until you either were killed or you retired. Well, that Middle East is going to be in war forever. Yeah, it has been and it will be. Yeah, literally, I'm not a big religious guy,

but in the Bible it says this will just be an unrest for eternal time. And it's not that the Bible has been accurate on everything, but I feel like that really, since the beginning of time, the Middle East has been in a middle of war, and it will never stop. It will never stop. Have you ever seen that satellite photo where it's all lit around the world except for the dark places? That's where it is, and it's true, metaphorically and religiously and in truth. That is the darkness of the world, and that's where we operate.

And it's easy for the ignorant, and that's not a derogatory term. It's just people that don't know and want to live in the dark and be unaware of the road and it's easy for them to say why are we sticking our nose in other people's business why we you guys basically are responsible for keeping planes from flying into buildings and and all these things happening so yeah you are the night's watch like hey that's the movie by the way That's the movie, by the way. Dump that. The movie's Night's Watch.

And then where he said, we operate in the dark. I mean, that's a real. It's from Game of Thrones. It's an incredible thing to wrap your head around. It's hard for me to wrap my head around. And just think, we're old dudes now. There's a young generation doing it and ready for the next 9-11, ready for the next thing. What does George Orwell say? People sleep peaceably in their beds at night because rough men stand ready on their behalf.

To do violence on their behalf. Love that. Hey, that's a Navy SEAL coming in there at the end there. Love that. Are you worried about the societal change that we've had kind of making people softer? And like the next generation of Green Berets and Special Forces. We're worried as well, by the way. Yeah.

Because if there was a war that was to happen right now, and a draft was called, Evan Fox, that guy back there, this guy right here, this generation would be the one that would get drafted. America would be pretty fucked. I mean, if we look at it that way, it's a great point. And are any of you considered millennials? I don't think so.

In the back. In the back. These two. That's who we try. Those two right there. But that is the changing way of America now, and that is taking us down a dark road. Soft. A little softer.

Is the military seeing it? Are there people like way at the chain going, guys, what's happening? They're overweight. The average recruit, even though they're highly intellectual and intelligent, right? The battlefield has recently relied on drones and video games and the non-personal side of war. But there's a dirty side of humans. Yeah, unfortunately, we need a certain number of people that can effectively sneak up behind somebody and stick a knife in the base of their skull before they can make a noise i mean that has to happen read a map know a compass you know i mean play outdoors and and we're kind of lost that you know skills that made american very frontier and pioneering

right and you don't get three meals a day and you don't you know have a video game that solves and you can't hit reset right i mean it's it's's so bad. This afternoon I saw in the hotel room, I saw the news. It was Fox News. And the human health organization came out and said, okay, any kid, we're going to put out a new rule, a new law. Any kid under one years old cannot play with some type of media whether it's a phone or a game or because they're picking it up wow under a year and playing with it and playing little games it's crazy i think technology is something that is could be the best and could be the worst and i in the world that you guys speak of and have uh i don't want to say thrived in but obviously you

two are some of the finest gentlemen I've ever met in my entire fucking life. You don't know him. Bill from the Raptors. True, true, very true. But it does seem like. Where's the whiskey? That's what I was about to say.

We haven't talked about that yet. We will. We'll lead in at the beginning and make sure. But it really, it seems like the type of guys that you are, I don't want to say are disappearing, but it seems like it's going to be a tough group to find. I think the Green Berets and the Army and even the Navy with the SEALs and everybody you're talking about,

it's going to be tough to find those gentlemen that can pull that off. I don't think they make many men like you on earth in the history of time, but in the future it looks like I don't know how many there are going to be of you guys. Well, even in selection, we're a little too stupid to quit, right? We didn't think our way out of being in pain. We just walked in, another two dollars. I was like, I'm not going to quit. And what you have is people who've never faced adversity and had hard times and had a hard life,

they don't know how to mentally go through that. So a lot of people quit easily because you can. In a game, you can hit reset, turn the button. You know what I mean? But there are hard people out there, very, very, very morally and emotionally hard people ready to do naughty things to this country. We talk about it all the time in athletics for young people. Like it's hard.

You learn a lot in sports. Team sports. Yeah, because – and it's getting harder for coaches to balance that pushing you to the point that you go to complete exhaustion but you're not able to quit versus almost getting in trouble because you made somebody throw up. Yeah, I've seen the human body survive tremendous amputations and injuries and still fight on. The Afghans, they don't know the difference.

Right. You know what I mean? They'll go until they drop dead, dead, not tired. I had a security guy that worked for me. He was an Afghan, of course. And I threw him in the back of the truck so he could just watch out for me. This guy had eaten grass and drank water for a week. Wow.

So I gave him a couple of the meals that I had. Sure. Of course, he was starved. I said, hey, don't eat that too fast. You will explode. This Horse Soldier Signature Bourbon Whiskey.

A small batch brewed in Columbus, Ohio, because Kentucky's too fucking expensive. Made by American Freedom Distillery. This is a beautiful bottle and beautiful design. How'd you decide to get into this? Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses. That's right.

Well, we make whiskey, not war now, right? All the taglines. No, actually, the only job for a while for us was to kind of be a government contractor and go back overseas. And so now you have guys that just fought their whole life. And really, even though they're entrepreneurial and they're probably the best business-minded people, nearly criminal in their mindset. Wait, wait, wait, wait. What?

Don't say that. Criminal or mindset? Well. Or only job? Are you calling government contractors criminal well i was gonna as soon as you mentioned i was like well we can dive right into a blackwater conversation i mean that they just smirked my injury i'm like holy shit i've never talked to anybody about this before i got a lot of questions well what what what we were missing is this understanding of

business and the culture of business and it's easy for us to pick up a gun again so think of magnificent seven right you know the only good business is a business you the culture of business, and it's easy for us to pick up a gun again. So think of Magnificent Seven, right? The only good business is a business you know, and a business is war. So there's a lot of friends that were making a lot of money, right? And they were doing things that were necessary at the time. But I wanted to go in a different direction. And we went to Yellowstone, we fly fish, we did everything a tourist would do because we really never really take vacations. Always a war. And we did a horseback ride through the middle of Yellowstone. And then we were coming back out of it and we saw a little sign that said free tours and tastings. Free tours and tastings. There we go. Yeah. So it was a small craft distillery, but it was a husband and wife. They worked it together. They were tired and exhausted, but they made some great

vodkas, and they just told you everything. And you catch on to that. We're people. Sure. That's our culture and background. So we Googled every craft distillery from Driggs, Idaho, back to Tampa, Florida.

It took us a while to get home. It was John's mom that said, you drunks need a hobby. So then we went to Scotland. We had a friend that was a Royal Marine and started a Scotch distillery. So imagine learning Kung Fu now. Yeah. Right? I know crane.

So we learned how to make Scotch. We went into Ireland to the world's oldest distillery, Kelbegan, and learned how to make Irish whiskey. We actually learned how to sail a couple years ago, sail to Cuba, and learn how to make rums. Let's go. Yeah, right? And so, like, this year we're jumping into Normandy. It's the 75th anniversary of D-Day. So we all had to get recertified and jump.

Our kids learned how to jump, too. So we had the very first aircraft going over and jumping into the 75th anniversary. So we always have adventures. It's the only thing, you know, that we were missing, and we're little Peter Pans. Yeah. Praying that we wouldn't break every bone in our body when we hit the ground. So a couple of things I want people to know is that American Freedom Distillery, all the founders are from your team or other special operations groups?

Yeah, we're all in the community together. All special forces guys. From the agencies, Navy SEALs, all of us. It's a very small community, and after all the ribbing is done and whatnot, our families got to know each other, our kids got to know each other. We wanted a business where it's just like this here. Everybody's sitting around yapping, but nobody can can you know put out a crappy product sure and on your featured product here the horse soldier bourbon um the this is the statue

on the on the front that that uh honors you guys at ground zero that's right that's great and the bottle i read that uh the the mold that uh forms the shape of this bottle was actually made from steel from the twin Towers? Yep. Absolutely. Wow. That's incredible. So we have all forged relationships there. And because the statue does overlook the National 9-11 Museum and waterfalls,

we were actually looking for a discount on how to get our bottle molds made for Green Berets, too. And we horse traded. And, you know, we had an opportunity and we took it and we don't really over advertise it wasn't a gimmick you know none of us are gimmicky we're not a marketing madison avenue company sure but everything means something and you see on the labels it's forged in fire just like we were wow where do you buy it at uh right now we're in indiana so we launched in florida last year so you got 21 first amendment right and you got pay less liquor microphone i mean come on i mean we're gonna give

we're gonna give this vital information we just rolled out a month ago and and that's why i'm here i didn't serve with these guys uh i carry their bags now, which works out fine for me. But yeah, we just launched a month ago. It's doing great in Indianapolis. People love it. People get behind these guys in the story. It is available at 21st Amendment in all their stores. Payless Liquors and Big Red actually just rolled it out. And surprisingly, in the market like this, there's a lot of independents. They've all carried it too. So really, in a market like this, there's a lot of independents. They've all carried it too. So really, any liquor store, and if you walk into a liquor store and they don't have it,

ask for it, and then maybe they'll buy more. This is incredible. And the story of you guys, I mean, let me tell you something, man. I've been listening to this. I am floored always whenever we get an opportunity through Pat to meet people like you. But except that you guys are, you've exceeded my expectations, I can tell you that. I mean, the story is incredible. I always loved the movie.

I had previously seen the documentary, so I was already fans of you guys individually as real people. And this is a big deal for me. It's a big deal for America. And I want people to know also that you guys have not lost touch with the people that continue the mission that you retired from you you're helping vets you're helping them cope you you even help develop some programs to help green brain special forces members adjust back to the real world after leaving combat right yeah so we do a lot of charitable stuff I work with

President Bush and his Team 43. We're on several congressional committees just telling the case. But our biggest thing is veterans are bombarded about how bad we are, right? And everybody feels sorry and miserable. And we kind of turn this generation into the misery patrol. And we're trying to show everybody this is America. Live the American dream you've been defending. Start a business.

Be bold. Be brave. Right? Get with your buddies and just conquer the world on the business community. Don't take handouts over here. Okay? Get off your butt and let's get back in the economy. Although Ocasio-Cortez says the VA, there's nothing wrong with it. It's not broke.

So we're in good shape right now. Let's not get started on that. By the way, I looked over here and I see that you're actually wearing a Blackwater shirt and I whenever we go off air here I got about you're about to get pelted with questions I can't thank you guys enough for coming

through here though absolute gentleman man absolute gentleman I can't I can't thank you enough for everything you've done obviously for the country for the world but if I don't thank you enough for everything you've done, obviously, for the country, for the world. But I don't drink much right now. I'm currently trying to get in shape. But you obviously –

I'll drink yours. No, I'm going to drink this today because you guys are here. I feel like it's the least I can do. I have to. But you guys have – is the bourbon whiskey the only thing you guys are currently selling or does the Freedom – The bourbons, first and foremost, it is the horse we rode in on. We're making a rum because we went to Cuba because we have a bunch of old bourbon barrels after we age and pour, right? So we'll make some other things just for grins.

Sure. But really the bourbon is what's going to make our family successful for the next couple of generations. I hope you sell 7 billion of these. You guys deserve it. So do I. I'm getting a helicopter and I'm going to visit people. We've done well on the San Francisco whiskey competition as well.

Yeah, our bourbons have won more medals than we have. That's right. Nobody talks about the Green Berets, man. Nobody talks about it. No, and I wanted to mention, I mean, as people are listening in and hearing the story, and you guys do, I welcome you to do it. Follow us on Facebook, and we've got some signings coming up tomorrow night, Saturday morning, and then Saturday night at Payless Liquors. Well, it'll be tonight.

It's actually going to come out tomorrow. The signings, you come in, there'll at least be two of these guys there. You get one of these bottles signed. It's amazing. I mean, I met these guys a year ago, and I love working with them. And having that bottle on my shelf, everybody asks about it, and I'm proud to tell the story. And I'll tell you, I don't care how many bottles I sign,

and I've signed several hundred in a night. Atta boy. And I tell you what. We'll always shake a hand. There's somebody always in there, and there's several of them, that always want to bring up their dad who served in the military or their brother who served in the military. And they got killed in action or some story like that.

The other way to help us as a business is just ask for it. I heard about it and just asked for it. The people have the power. So as we kind of learn distributor relations and you've got bar vendors and you've got all these other people, if they ain't heard about you, they don't care. If they don't think the customer wants it, they won't buy it. So it's power of the people. So the more people we see and tell the story and the message,

they're the ones that have the power. They'll go into a bar and say, why don't you have Horse Soldier? I guarantee you the next day, ring, ring, ring, we need a couple bottles here. And that's how you win. Yeah. I'm going to start a movement at all the liquor stores I frequent. I can tell you that right now. Todd frequents a lot of them too.

Take a wild guess. We don't have the Commander Select bottle here. It sells for $600 a bottle. But if it's signed and it goes at auction, take a wild guess how much those are sold for at auction. $10,000. $16,000. Wow.

Let's go. And I'll say this. After listening to you guys talk, I would put, obviously the country put faith in you. I haven't tasted this yet, but I would assume if you two are involved in it's going to be fucking delicious and i think anybody listening at home should just assume the same thing it doesn't suck it's amazing pat we're bringing a bottle back i'll have a bottle here for you monday for your tournament yeah great you know oh thank you for that yeah yeah thank you so much that's very nice we want

to support that too yeah so there there's yeah. Yeah, so there's two. There's a weeded bourbon, which is soft and smooth, like a little victory. Then there's rye, which is spicy and peppery, which is charged. So we couldn't agree amongst ourselves who liked what. So we said, we'll make them both. And there you go. Wow. Well, thank you guys so much for coming in, man.

Thank you. This has been an incredible experience. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for what you've done. And thanks for taking care of that little terrorism thing I appreciate that That was very nice of you Just a little tiny little terrorism thing It's your birthday We gon' sip a card in like It's your birthday And you know we don't give a fuck Cause that's your birthday

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