The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 075 - We Run Wild With JJ Watt

Episode Date: May 23, 2019

Today’s show is an all-time episode. First, 3x NFL Defensive Player of the Year, 5x 1st team All-Pro, 5x Pro Bowler, 2x NFL sacks leader, former Walter Payton Man of the Year, 2017 Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year, one of the most dominant defensive players in the history of football, JJ Watt, joins the show. He and Pat chat about his recent commencement speech at the University of Wisconsin, the massive chip on his shoulder that has led to his success, what still motivates him to be great, his new game show Ultimate Tag that he’ll be hosting with his brothers, and JJ gives Pat his personal endorsement for the Monday Night Football gig in an incredibly honest and hilarious interview (3:37-28:54). Next, Pat debuts country music star and friend of the show, Clayton Anderson’s new song, “Run Wild,” that will be available everywhere Thursday at midnight. Pat also chats about marijuana in the NFL as he brings back everyone’s favorite segment, “Some Thoughts.” Later, Pat recounts Shane Morris’ viral Twitter thread recounting how he unknowingly transported $40,000 worth of heroin across the country and narrowly escaped death when the original owner came back looking for it, and Shane joins the boys for a Q&A about how everything went down (1:14:56-1:24:19). Come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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conversation with alpha male jj watt ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man who is a three time nfl defensive player of the year that's not to sneeze at that's nothing to sneeze at at all he was a five-time all pro a walter payton man of the year two-time nfl sax leader and a hell of a philanthropist now he's an executive producer of a tv show a host of a tv show he's taking over the world while saving it ladies and gentlemen justin james j.j. watt thank you hey no problem, man. All that's true, though. That's an insane resume to think about.

I was watching your Wisconsin commencement speech, which you did incredible, by the way. Thank you. I tried to just keep pace with you after what you did at the NFL draft. Well, I think you were much more motivating than I was, which is a smart move. Were you nervous as hell for that? You know, I think you were much more motivating than I was, which is a smart move. Were you nervous as hell for that? You know, I honestly wasn't. I was excited about it, and I would have been nervous if I hadn't write it down, and I would have been nervous if they made me read it off a prompter like initially they talked about.

But once they gave me the okay to just kind of talk and do it off the top of my head, then I wasn't as nervous because I knew what I wanted to say, you know? You freestyled that? You looked so calm and collected. I had no idea that was just off the top of my head then I wasn't as nervous because I knew what I wanted to say you know you freestyled that you look so calm and collected I had no idea that was just off the top of the head that's incredible see if you talk slow enough and you give yourself enough pauses you can come up with anything that's my entire just winging it I just want to make him laugh I mean it's I'm from Wisconsin so like it's the easiest thing it felt like I was at home it felt like I was talking to a bunch of my family members. I mean, you talk about spotted cow, you talk about cheese curds,

and you're automatically going to be off to a hot start. Are you happy you went before Robert Smith? Because now I think if you're a rich person, you're expected to pay off college debt. I mean, I came in, and I was thinking, I was like, all right, I'm not trying to blow the world away here. I'm not going to be on, like, any list of top ten. But maybe for 2019, if I could make, like, the top five speeches of 2019. And then Robert Smith comes along and just wipes the whole map out.

Well, there goes that. My 2019 commencement speech is getting zero YouTube hits from here on. Really bad timing, too. He didn't even let you really sit on it for a week. It was like three days later. What a baller move. Are you kidding me, though? I mean, can you imagine just being able to know that you're going to step up there?

Like, whatever you're going to say before that, you could literally say nothing important for 10 minutes. And then, I'm in a bad for student loans. I mean, it's insane you said in that speech i think the thing that i took away most from it is when you said that both positive reinforcement and negative reinforcement can be a motivator for you and you thought back to the night you were drafted partying with your friends your high school coaches your family everybody was so proud of so proud of you. And that night before you went to bed, you decided to check the Twitter. And the first thing you saw was a Houston Texan diehard fan at the Houston Texan draft party, booing obnoxiously directly into the camera out of anger of drafting this white kid from Wisconsin. I took away from that, that you are a massive chip on the shoulder guy. If you say I can't do something, I'm going to do it.

Am I right there? Absolutely. Yes. And what you've done since then is go on to become the most dominant football player on the field whenever you're on it. That has to feel good. And how often, whenever you're working out, because I hear you overwork out, by the way. I hear you work out too much. What does J.J. Watt say to himself while working

out? Like, fuck that guy on draft night. There's a lot of people who think I'm nothing. What is the self-motivation to J.J. Watt to continue getting better? Yeah, I think there's a lot of that where you find it from different sources. So obviously, immediately after that, I had that in my head. I wanted to prove those people wrong. I wanted to earn their respect. And then throughout your career, you find different things, whether it's somebody saying somebody else is better than you or it's somebody has more sacks than you. There's always something to chase. But I think that over my career, that's probably one of the biggest things that I've learned is that I mean, I used to read Twitter all the time. I used to read all the stories. I used to read all the articles.

And I let it mess with me early on because you get mad about it. I'm getting mad about somebody at ESPN who writes an article and says that I'm number two instead of number one. Or I'm getting mad because this person didn't vote for me for Defensive Player of the Year. And I'm like, finally, I learned. I realized, I was like, why do I care? Why do I care what this person has to say? And I think the injury is really helping me with that. Because when I was injured for two years in a row, you realize how quickly people forget about you. So why am I putting so much stock

in what these people say when five years after my career, they're not going to care about me. So I learned to put my stock into my family, my friends and my teammates. And really that was the most important thing to me now. That's incredible to think of that moment of freedom that you let yourself had, had to be an impressive one. You're reading all these things from people that don't matter saying things about you. And then that moment of just being like, fuck them. That had to be a great, that honestly, that had to be an incredibly freeing feeling. It was huge. I mean, it was huge i mean it was because i remember early in my injuries you know after my first injury where i'm out for the season you get

people saying he's done he's never going to come back he's never going to play again even if he does he's not going to be the same that helped it drove me down and i was like jesus this am i can i and one of the biggest things that helped me was my girlfriend i mean she literally helped build my confidence back up saying, screw all that. Don't listen to them. Just go day by day. And so when I'd have a tough day and a down day before I had somebody around every day to help pick me up, it was just me, my thoughts, and then social media. And so that was another really helpful thing to have her in the house every day to kind of be a balancing factor where I'm reading social media, how bad I am or how bad I'm going to be. And then she's just

like, no, you're not going to be good. And I was like, oh, all right, maybe I will be. Did you, did you, cause you were very private with your private life. Uh, and I don't know if it was a real thing or not, but people were saying you go to bed at like 9 PM, you do this, you don't go out. And then your personal life was kind of non-existent. And then I remember there was an awkward moment on a red carpet. We don't have to get into where you kind of got put in a bad spot, but then you started dating this professional soccer player named Kiel named who? Kaliya. And it seems as if it's almost like you found a missing piece,

the way you act on social media. This is just me from an outsider standpoint. It seems like you found like a real yin to your yan, and it seems like it's a really beautiful operation right now. I appreciate it. She's great. You know what I mean? You're going through earlier in your career, and you have, like I said,

social media. You go to these events. You do all these things in the world. Wants to know so much about your personal life, but you're trying to figure it out yourself. So you don't want to, you don't want to be out there posting and doing all these different things when you don't know exactly the direction you're going. So once I found Kay and we, I obviously knew that she was special. Uh, then you feel comfortable with it. And then you don't feel like you have to be trying to live up to everybody's expectations or what they want. You're just, you're comfortable and

happy with your life. And you share it when you want to share it. You don't when you don't want to. And I mean, that's the biggest thing. When I come home at the end of the day, if I can make her happy and she makes me happy, I mean, who cares what the world thinks, you know? I respect that so much. And if you make your dog's tail wag, I mean, that's all we're really looking to do. That's why I'm sitting in my driveway right now, because as soon as I open that garage door, my dogs are going to go bananas. You want to talk about a way to not have kids for a long time, just get a couple of dogs. Oh, amen.

Amen. I'm on your team there. Let's go back to the chip on the shoulder. Is that why you left central Michigan and went to Wisconsin because you thought you were destined for something bigger than central Michigan? Or is it strictly because you wanted to go back home to Wisconsin? No, I wanted more. I mean, I was at central Michigan. I started at tight end there, but they ran the spread and they had, I mean, I think I played like 15 plays a game, maybe 20.

And there was writing on the wall that they wanted to move me to offensive tackle. So I said, if I'm going to do all this, I'm going to put in all this work. I mean, you know how hard it is, off-season workouts in college and all those workouts you do in classes. I said, if I'm going to put in all this work, I'm going to take the biggest shot I can take. I'm going to do it all. I'm either going to go big or I'm going to put in all this work, I'm going to take the biggest shot I can take. I'm going to do it all. I'm either going to go big or I'm going to fail. And thankfully for my parents, I mean, I told them when I was leaving high school, don't worry, I got college paid for.

And we're a middle class family. I mean, so it's not like we were rich and they had money in case I, no. They started planning for my brother's colleges because they thought mine was paid for. So for them to be able to tell me, okay, we can pay for one year at Wisconsin and allow me to gamble on myself, that was one of the biggest things and also a motivating factor for me. I wasn't only gambling on myself, but I was also proving to my parents that their investment was worth it. Oh my God, that's awesome. Butch Jones, he was at West Virginia before he got got up there central michigan what a wild fucking animal that guy is wild you don't have to say anything i will wild wild wild wild animal you get drafted to houston a guy boos and then you just go on to be an absolute game wrecker on

all four downs why did you choose to play special teams and fuck up everybody's life for a long time oh yeah let's talk about it. I mean, you're the most, you're one of the most fun players I've ever played against. Hold on, we're going to clip that for sure. First of all, I mean, if we really want to get deep into things, I'm still

upset that you didn't get the Monday Night Football game. We're going to clip that too. Thank you, JJ. Just keep them coming. Just to see the pure brilliance that you would come up with on a weekly basis and to see, I mean, it would have been the most clip-worthy program of all time. Oh, man. I'm on your side in that one. Hey, you've got a big brain.

I can already tell. I respect that a lot. I like that a lot. As big as your bicep. For those that aren't watching on YouTube, i went and literally got a huge pump in right beforehand because i wanted jj to be impressed with my sleeveless hoodie i got a one day sleeveless shirt thing or is this a daily it's a it's my life really i get kicked out of a lot of places because of it i love it man a little sleeveless shirt and jorts nothing beats it

what's funny you say that i mean that's that's literally my uh well when you got quads you know you gotta let the world eat let the world know you got them how often do you punt now sorry i just turned the interview on you i'll ask you still punt no i'm putting everyone's i'm leaving the options on the table you know what i didn't get that monday night football gig i didn't wasn't certain if i was going to get a big enough media job to keep going because i need a big goal right so i need like uh hey i got this big thing happening now granted these podcasts massive we run a business our, right? So I need like, hey, I got this big thing happening. Now, granted, these podcasts are massive. We run a business. Our business is good. But I need something large like in the background that at night when I lay down, like, okay, I also got to do this. I got

to focus on this. And when I didn't get the Monday Night Football gig, I was like, you know, there's a lot of money being tossed around to people that kick balls. And there's a lot of shitty ball kickers out there right now. So I went out on a high school field a few times. I'm still kicking like once a week, twice a week. I feel good. Good. That's awesome. That's one thing I've learned. You look at investment opportunities, you look at business opportunities, you look at movies, TV,

everything. We make a lot of money to chase the ball around. It's pretty damn cool. You make... You're FaceTiming us from your house right now. There is an Area 51 gate right behind you. But speaking of a lot of money, whenever the city of Houston needed somebody to really step up big time,

you did that. And I was just reading through some stats that you tweeted out. After the hurricane, after the flood and everything that happened to Houston, it was terrible. It was a national, I mean, it was an emergency down there. J.J. Watt, as you heard, started a GoFundMe basically that took off. $41.6 million was the final total. He's currently, since then, it's been one year basically, 600 homes have either been rebuilt or are being rebuilding right now. 420 childcare centers in the city of Houston, 16,000 children being served.

26 million meals have been served in 6,500 mental and physical health exams have happened just because of a go fund me that this meathead from Wisconsin started and saved a city. Did you feel as if like, Hey, I don't really know. Nobody knows how to act in that situation, but I assume you just said, let's just take one small step here, raise what we can raise. I'll donate a million. I'll match.

And then once it gets going, is there a moment where you're like, oh shit, like we really have a real cool opportunity here? Yeah. So, I mean, obviously the initial goal was 200 grand and I knew what I was going to do with that. I was like, all right, I'm going to buy food. I'm going to buy water. I'm going to buy toilet paper, diapers. I'm going to buy the stuff that people need. I'm going to go distribute it in communities. And then as you saw, I mean, it, it literally took on a life of its own. I mean, the very first night that it happened,

it started to get up to 500 grand. The website kept crashing. We literally had a private detective get the phone number of the creator of youcaring.com called him at his home house and had to get him out of his bed and he went and figured out how to get the website back up and running i mean this guy literally had no clue what was going on because good morning yeah and then it just hey guy we're raising a couple million here, and we need you to pop out of bed and figure it out. And then it just blew up, and obviously celebrities and people from all over the country and all over the world. And then you have to figure out the logistics of, okay, we're accepting donations from all 50 states and different countries. Now my 501c3 has to file paperwork to allow for that. And just the logistics of it all was insane.

And, oh, by the way, it's also the end of training camp and we have to figure it out because the season starts in like 10 days. So, I mean, it was, it was insane. I have an unbelievable group of people who helped me out and a ton of great organizations who we've distributed the money to and have helped us. So I've had a ton of great people help me out. I never, ever want to take credit for it as a one-man operation because it was so many great people. The city of Houston,

whenever we would play down there, your picture was on every other page of the program. I mean, it was, your picture was up on the Jumbotron. Every single, they played that turn down for what thing and the entire place went nut for you. You literally, from that guy

booing to a couple years of dominance later became the face of houston basically and then whenever you did all that are you going to get into politics are you going to be the fucking governor of texas or are you going to run for president one day what are we going to do i gotta i gotta get some more sacks first i've tried to think about what i'm gonna do after my career man but every time i try and think about it it's just there's too many like you you could go movies you could go tv you could go politics you could go anywhere you want and there's just too much to think about and i have i truly feel like i have a lot more football left in me and i'm excited about that so i'm focused on that at the moment. I'm enjoying it.

I'm loving it. And it's, it's a hard game to give up, man. I just, I love the daily work. It's like you said, trying to get better at something and still trying to prove that even now

after two years of injuries, I still have a lot. You got 16 sacks last year. Nobody's talking about you at all. Like whenever I was going through the stats of last year and I read that you had 16 stats last or sacks last year i was like damn i didn't know i had no idea nobody's even talking about the jj what nobody's even talking about the houston texans making the playoffs and with a quarterback that seems to be legit for the first time nobody's really talking about the houston texans that's got to feel pretty good going into training camp

that you guys are kind of a underrated weapon right now yeah you know i mean the thing that people immediately talk to me about in my interviews are either off the field things obviously or the two years of injuries and i've been trying to kind of put the two years injuries behind me because like you said last year i was fortunate enough to get back to playing good football and so i think it i think it's going to take at least one more year of playing at that level before people forget about what happened with the injuries and stuff and remember what I can do on the field. And then we do have a good team. We have a very good team.

We have a lot of good guys. We have good chemistry. Obviously, we ran into a good Colts team in the playoffs. But I think that it's a matter of making it and doing it on the field rather than talking about what we're going to be able to do or where we want to go. And, you know, the city of Houston hasn't really had anything since, I mean, when I first got here, we won our first playoff game ever. We went to the playoffs for the first time ever and we won our first playoff game. So we're trying to take that next step and

be able to do big things. And it's just, you can't do it by talking. You have to work and do it. I say all the time that my favorite place to play was down there in Houston at the whatever you guys call it now, stadium. It was a – Yeah, you dribbled an onside kick 10 yards and recovered it yourself. Pretty awesome, huh? When you watched it, it was pretty cool. Yeah.

Nothing pissed me off more than that. I mean, I'm just sitting there on the bench. I'm like, all right, we got a kickoff coming here. I got plenty of time. Just sipping Gatorade, watching the big screen. And not even really paying that much attention. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, well, what the hell was that? And then fucking number one, just walking out of the pile with the ball.

Hey, man. They showed the replay in there, I hope, and I hope you saw it and you were like, yeah, you know what? I don't think I've ever seen that in an NFL game. I don't think that's a pretty crazy thing. I was so mad because I was like, there's no way we actually just allowed that to happen. And I was like, we had to have a guy in the middle, right?

I mean, did he at least knock somebody over to get the ball? And I'm looking, I'm like, no. No, he didn't. Just waltzed out there. I mean, it wasn't even like you were running that hard. I know. Waltzed out there and just grabbed the ball. Yeah, I mean.

And then it was a wild game. I mean, I don't know. That was the loudest I've ever heard at our stadium, that game. It was awesome. It was piercing. It was like actually piercing. And anytime i get asked like your favorite place to play i did get to play at seattle but everybody's like your

favorite place to play i always say houston man it was always like a prime time game it always felt like it was like a super bowl like a playoff game and the crowd was into it they were loud and they were into it that doesn't happen everywhere i'll be excited to watch if you guys could continue to win what that place is going to do. It's going to be incredible. I agree, man. You know, when you start winning, the place gets nuts. They love football down here. I mean, we have the Rockets who are doing great.

We have the Astros who have obviously been unbelievable. We have the soccer teams. But, I mean, at the end of the day, Texas is a football state. So when you string some wins together, it's a blast, man. Is this ultimate tag show going to suck or what? Is it pretty good i mean okay for those that don't know uh a jj watt production has happened with his brothers derrick and tj who are also in the nfl congrats to the watt family buying the way by the way hitting the

fucking hitting a triple for nfl kids that's pretty incredible uh but you got into this into this uh game show type world you You executive produced the show. You hosted the show. It's coming in early 2020. It seems like an incredible concept. Were you amazed by how hard it was? Did you enjoy the process? Is it going to be good?

All that stuff. So my brothers and I host the show, and whenever you put all three of us into a room, it's a bit of a cluster as it is. I've obviously done a little TV. Both my brothers really haven't done anything. So when I came on board, I said, I want my brothers to host with me. And you could tell Fox was a little bit like they've never hosted before.

We don't know what they can do. And I said, you know, just trust me. We'll figure it out. And we got to the first day of rehearsal before we started filming. And every Fox executive was kind of looking around like oh we're fucked i mean we had one that was like nervous and stuttering on his lines we had another one who couldn't read the teleprompter and i was like oh no and then literally the lights came on on the

when it was time for it to really happen and the show started and it was like brand new people i think it's just that athlete in you where you don't really like the rehearsal you don't do it but once the show starts and once the lights come on they were awesome and it was so much fun to watch them grow and get better and for all of us to interact and mess around and then the show itself is way better than i thought it was going to be so i was really excited about it because tag is a game we've all played and we take it to these crazy levels we have one that's a steel cage 30 feet up in the air you don't have any harnesses or anything so if you fall you fall right onto a mat 30 feet down

we have another one that you're like jumping off of trampolines and stuff so i was excited about it but then when i saw it in person i saw how unbelievable these athletes are and i mean We have another one that you're like jumping off of trampolines and stuff. So I was excited about it. But then when I saw it in person, I saw how unbelievable these athletes are. And, I mean, it's physical. People are smashing their faces into stuff. People are getting injuries. It's like a sport. It's not really a game show.

And so it was a ton of fun. We have, I think it's 12 professional taggers. So there's like a little of that American Gladiators feel to it where you're going to see the same tags every week and there's some of the best athletes i've ever seen i mean i'm in the nfl and i see obviously a lot of athletes all the time there's a couple athletes on ultimate tag that are the best athletes i've ever seen so what are you gonna do you just gotta stay away for like two minutes and you win stay away from the professional taggers so there are four different rounds and so it starts out with three men and three women, obviously different categories. And then after two games, there are an elimination. So then there's two left.

And so basically each game is different. So the first game is literally just stay alive as long as you can. If you stay alive longer than the other people, you get extra points. And then the second game is kind of like a capture the flag, where the more flags you capture, the more points you get. And then you get eliminated if you didn't have the most points. And then you go to the next one, and it could be the dome way up high or it could be this one down on the ground.

And then you get to the finale, and however many points you had, you get a head start on your competitor. And it's cool, man. We wanted to try it, and then we saw it and we were like there's no way how competitive we are way too dangerous and we would get caught so easily i hope it does incredible and i feel like with everything else that you do i don't know your brothers as well but with everything else that you do you seem to literally hit home runs and it's uh you're an incredible specimen brother you're like a superhero of a human it's

a really impressive thing and a cool thing to think about you just being this working class guy from wisconsin out there changing the world and helping the world out along the way it's cool shit thank you man i appreciate it i have to say one thing for you obviously all the incredible things that you've done when i i got a text message yesterday from a buddy of mine who lives in ireland he lives in dublin and he texted me said, Hey, I heard you're going to be on the Pat McAfee show this week. And I said, yeah, how'd you know? He goes, dude, I listened to it all the time. Be sure to tell him he's got a massive following in Ireland. Sláinte boys, Sláinte. Doing an onsite over in Dublin, Temple Bar, you know? Hey, not a bad idea. I think we should definitely do that. Maybe you

get into the agent game too. Start booking me places. That'd be fantastic. We'll get you on Ultimate Tag next week. You'd be our announcer. You'd come over. You'd be our announcer. I'm not athletic enough, but I'd love to. All right, JJ, I just want to say thank you so much for doing this, man. You're a massive star. You coming on this little

podcast, I really appreciate it. Hey, I appreciate it. You make people laugh. People love watching you. You have a lot of positivity. I love all the social media and everything that you do, man. You've been a fun competitor for me to go against over the years, and you've been a fun follower for me on social media and all the work that you do. So keep spreading laughs, keep spreading cheer,

and we need more of that in the world, brother. Hey. Hey. Hey. Yes. That made me feel good. That made me feel really good. You don't need me to make you feel good when you got biceps like that i was looking at your instagram you got quads in your arms bro i saw you flexing coming on soon uh yeah i think i'm gonna have him so there's like a point in time we're gonna

have goat week where i'm gonna have leckler vinatieri i think i'm gonna try to getikowski it's going to be called goat week and i'm excited for it leckler i think is coming to indy for it i think i got him to uh talk to him into it when he's on some beer yes so when you have that i want to like send in a video question or something because i want to pepper that old man with it hey he's the greatest man he is literally the greatest human and punter of all time. I love that man. He is the best man. He is a walking, drinking, fishing machine. He can punt the shit out of a football. Ladies and gentlemen,

soon to be four time NFL defensive player of the year. Probably another Walter Payton man of the year award on the way as well. Definitely a six time all pro after next year. Mr. Justin James. Turn down for what? Justin. end of the year award on the way as well definitely a six-time all pro after next year uh mr justin james turn down for what justin nope jj what thank you thank you both hey good luck with all good luck with ultimate tag dude thank you man i appreciate y'all have a wonderful day send me the info when you um when you guys are going live. I will do that. All right. Good luck, dude. Have a good one, man.

Thanks. He was incredible. There's really no other words to say it. No, there's not. It's very hard to not like him after listening to that interview. There were some people that tweeted me yesterday like, I wonder if I'll get over his douche canoe-ness with his interview. Honestly, he's a megastar.

And that conversation he just had with us was so – it was like he's just one of the boys. Yep, you'll get over it. Yeah, you'll get over it. I'm a big J.J. Watt fan. I think he is misinterpreted too. I think so too. I agree. You get that big.

It's just you have to be how he was his first couple years in the league. The only thing I didn't get to ask him about is he talks a lot of shit on the field. Yeah. Like a lot of shit. He's this humble, hardworking guy off the field. He gets on the field, does mic'd up him about is he talks a lot of shit on the field. Yeah. Like a lot of shit. He's this humble, hardworking guy off the field. He gets on the field, does mic'd up session. He's talking a lot of shit. I want to ask him about what makes him flip the switch,

but it's probably the chip on his shoulder, to be honest with you. I'm a big fan. I'm very thankful for JJ. If you could tweet him and thank him for coming on today's show, I would appreciate it a lot. Maybe send him a gift of like a thumbs up or like, hey, you the man, or like, hey, you should go back on the show sometime that'd be great because honestly that's a mega star right there yeah jj watt is a

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we had an entire 35 minute conversation about the country music world he's a country musician he's been around for like 15 20 years just grinding the pavement that entire conversation can be heard tomorrow on Heartland Radio 2.0 but what we're about to do is a first a future number one song is about to be debuted right here on the pat mcfee show 2.0 it officially comes out tonight at midnight a little sneak peek from our friend at clayton anderson which i think by the way is a heater i think you will too we'll be hanging on the edge tonight I feel a rumble and a shaking side

An open road is no place to hide There's no turning back when you put it in drive Roll, roll, roll if you want the most Roll, roll, roll if you're ready to go All these horses need to run so let them run we're just some rebels here without a cause Every move is like we break the law You're gonna lose if you ain't quick with the draw Ain't no money left if you don't feel it strong

Try, try, try, catch me if you can Bye, bye, bye, I'm a wanted man All these horses need to run All these horses need to run All these horses need to run So let them run wild So let them run wild Try, try, try, catch me if you can Bye, bye, bye, I'm a wanted man

Try, try, try, catch me if you can Bye, bye, bye, I'm a wanted man All these horses need to run All these horses need to run So let them run wild So let them run wild So let them run wild So let them run wild Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, 2.0. Me and Todd kind of put him in the fire a little bit for not utilizing the internet

for as much as he should. He's a talented guy. That song right there, going to be a hit. For sure. He's opening up for Zach Brown Band on Saturday here at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway, day before the Indy 500. I think, and this is just a thinking thing, I'm not schooled in meteorology, but if you look at that radar, there's a chance a flood is coming.

Looks bad. And I think Clayton needs to build a fucking ark if he's looking to perform this weekend. Ladies and gentlemen, we debuted a segment last week. I enjoyed it. I'm not sure if you did, but we're back for more. Ty, please hit the intro segment music. I have a couple thoughts on my mind,

not thoughts like a whore. I'll give some takes while Ty will keep score. I have some thoughts. Ty, you keep score. All right. Again, we are going on the pass-fail grade here. Because this is an Ivy League academia. Exactly.

Absolutely. All right. First thing on the docket we got here, marijuana policy in the NFL. There's been a lot of talk about that the last couple days. Pretty divisive topic. What are your thoughts on this? I don't think it's that divisive, honestly. The only thing that it's divisive for is the older heads who happen to be in government

and in control of a lot of situations. And let me tell you why. I've said this a couple times before, but I'm not sure it's getting echoed enough. First impressions go a very, very, very long way with people. Whether you meet somebody and they're an asshole to you the first time, you're going to think that person's an asshole for the rest of your life. If you tried tequila for the first time and you puke the first time you tried tequila, guess what you're not going to do again? Probably drink tequila for the rest of your life. For me, when I was younger,

I drank orange juice until I had one bad fit of diarrhea, and I will never drink orange juice again. That's the same thing that happened with marijuanas in these people that are currently in charge. Let me tell you why. The people that were smoking all the marijuana were the people that were anti-America, anti-military, anti-everything that the people who are currently in power right now believe it. So whenever they saw hippies, they saw marijuana. And vice versa, when they saw marijuana, they saw hippies. They didn't see the Chris Longs of the world who are helping everybody, becoming all pros,

being Super Bowl champions. They're not seeing Michael Phelps, who's the greatest Olympian of all time smoking. They're not seeing somebody who runs a small business in Indianapolis who retired from the NFL to do things. They're not seeing somebody who runs a small business in Indianapolis who retired from the NFL to do things. They don't see that. What they see is the people who kind of were bringing society down. And that first impression is very, very hard for them to get over. No matter how many doctors and scientists and researchers come out and say, hey, listen, cannabis can help

with this. Cannabis can help with this. THC can do this. CBD can do this. All these stats are getting shoved in their face, but all they think about is back whenever they were first introduced to it and somebody and something terrible was representing it. I think as we move forward as a society, obviously we're already seeing it in a lot of states making it legal. The people who are the old heads in charge will either have a change of heart, they'll be forced to do that, or they'll move out and somebody else will move in who hasn't had such a terrible reaction

with their first impression of marijuana. I do believe that the NFL would be doing their players a hell of a favor if they leaned on THC instead of pharmaceuticals, if they leaned on something that was natural as opposed to man-made, that wasn't addictive physically but what like not pills i think honestly the nfl is going to make the step make the jump and i'm

excited to see him do it i think we're gonna we're about to fall into an era where the nfl could potentially be looking out for its players a lot more than it has in the past and i'm all the way here for it because honestly if i want to kick balls again the real hurdle and real obstacle is passing a drug test and i would love it if i didn't have to do that obviously it's tough to like estimate this but what what's the time frame you think in terms of for the nfl yeah they move at a pretty rapid rate if things get into conversation normally a change is coming that extra point conversation happened and then the next year, okay, we're going to a 33 yard extra point. Like those types of things, replay. Okay. We're doing this. We're going to this every, if it gets into the conversation

at those owners meetings, at those rules committee, usually it can get going a bit, but if it's still stuck on like the outside, like a bubble, like not a real talking point at this point, then it's just going to be stuck there forever. It's kind of like a purgatory. But once it really gets mentioned, which I think it is happening right now because you've got every news outlet doing it, and Chris Long taking a stand saying it's helped him is massive because he's such an impactful not only player but family in the NFL,

his dad and brother. I think this is something that could get expedited pretty quickly. I mean that yeah a thousand percent pass oh that's what i'm talking about yeah i mean no question good for me man all right well listen we got a chance to the segment was fun by the way you want to play it close out yeah sure let's close it out let's close it out i have a couple thoughts on my not thoughts like a horn. I'll give some takes while time keeps going.

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feeling good and looking great speaking of looking great there's a man that really blew up the internet the other day. Absolutely blew up the internet. I might have helped. I might have helped. You could say that. His future, we don't know if it looks good, looks great, or looks absolutely catastrophic. He joined us for a little Q&A after my reading from myself. He joined us for a little Q&A after my reading from myself.

Yesterday, I retweeted something that could potentially have a guy killed. The power of Twitter and social media, you know what it does? It makes the world a much smaller place. When I saw this thing, it had about 98 ret retweets I read through it and I said oh my god this Twitter thread is one of those Twitter threads that's a page turner it's a tweet stroller

scroller I guess and stroll you stroll right through it and we got a chance to have this guy join us. But I would like to read the Twitter thread to the listeners so they know what I'm referring to when we talk about this random man named Shane Morris who literally became a celebrity overnight.

Ty Schmidt, this is going to be a little bit. There's a lot of tweets here. Get comfy. But it's a pretty good story And then the Q&A after you're going to want to hear Ty Schmidt please My Twitter thread reading Music Please

Y'all want to hear a story Yes please About the time I accidentally Transported a brick of heroin from LA to Seattle. Wow. Tell me more. All right, let's do this. Tweet one.

I was living in Newport Beach, California, kind of just trying to figure life out a little bit. My good buddy Tyler calls me up out of the clear blue and says, Hey, dude, you want to do the most epic road trip ever? I'm like, sure. At the time, Tyler was a boat mechanic down here in South Florida. So I flew from Newport down to Miami and I end up staying with one of his coworkers for a few days. Just buy some time until I can buy a Honda Shadow 750 for like $2,700 or so. Parenthesis, he already had one, my friend Tyler.

This is what we're planning to do the road trip on. And I got a matching bike so we could share spare parts, you know, on the road. The road trip. From Miami, we set, on the road. The road trip. From Miami, we set off across the United States. The great United States. Staying at the kind of motels along the way

you only see on movies like No Country for Old Men. Great film. Excellent film. Poof. Poof. That's a fucking air gun. You remember those motels?

Javier brought them. That was where these, Shane and Tyler, were staying across the United States. I'm going to flip the coin. Flip it. If you're going to ride across the United States, Shane says, on a motorcycle, do it on two-lane roads. It's worth it. More scenic. We end up swinging down through Mexico.

And this isn't really important to the story, but we pulled over to rest in the middle of the desert. And these wild horses walked up to us and were actually like oddly friendly. They let us pet them. It was super cool. One point I said,

I got the horses in the bag. Anyway, after like 10 days in the desert with the horses in Mexico, we made it back into Southern California. My friend Tyler had an uncle in Temecula and my ex was in Newport beach. So we both rested for a few days. Riding a motorcycle across the country takes a toll on your body, so we decided to switch it up. Call in the lefty. Make a change for our grundle and our bodies.

Also smart. We've been from South Beach to Mexico. Now we're in Temecula and Newport, and it's time to make a change. We decided to sell our bikes and buy a 1979 Dodge Ram van. Okay. I want to say we paid like $600 each for it, $1,200 all in.

Something like that. It needed a little work, but the important part was it was all easy stuff. We named the van Cassandra and wrote our names right there on the door. Obviously. A couple pictures to prove he wasn't lying. The plan was easy. We'll drive up the Pacific Coast Highway and camp all along the way. We took the middle seats out of the van so we could sleep in it at night in case it was raining.

Then we went to REI to get hammocks for hammock camping. That's what it does. They were going to complete this road trip from southern Miami, camping. As one does. They were going to complete this road trip from Southern Miami, the southeast east point to the northwest west point. It checks out.

On our way up the Pacific Coast Highway, we stopped in Santa Barbara and picked up my sister, Shane's sister. At the time, she was in school at UCSB, University of California, Santa Barbara. Great school. And she was planning on flying home

to the Bay Area to see her dad. So I was like, just come camping on the beach with us instead. Hyphy. Great idea. So she did. I'd take that plane. Don't take that plane.

I'll do it. We got a Dodge Ram van. Just drive that motherfucker with us. Cassandra. Cassie. Cassandra's the van. Cassie. Camping.

Sister goes to UC Santa Barbara chose to do that another picture of him and his sister right there on the beach driving north Tyler, Shane and his sister they made it to some pretty cool spots like the Bixby Canyon Bridge all along the way we're letting anyone who meets us

write their name on the van and take a picture with it it was fucking awesome. Sounds pretty cool. There was three dots in between was and then two spaces. Fucking awesome. Dramatic pause, obviously written into the thread. I like that.

I'd ride on that van. Well done. It's good writing. Me too. I'd sign a van. Pretty fucking awesome. Hey, I'd sign Cassandra right there on her tits. Around Big Sur, our van had its first problem.

Cassandra. Uh-oh. This lady we're referring to. Cassie. The rear drum brakes were making awful noises and locked up. I ended up buying a set of Craftsman tools, and then I did a brake job right there in the parking lot of a Walmart. Oh, pretty handy.

Walmart. Handy guy. Used to be Sears. Used to be. Not anymore. Rest in peace. Used to be Sears. Used to be. Not anymore. Rest in peace. What? To Sears.

While I was there, I was like, I'm going to do a few other things as well if I'm already under a hood. Why not? When I got the van, I changed the oil and that's it. Oh. Oh. Parentheses. I know I should have done more of a tune-up, but honestly, the van was running pretty fine. The interior was even pretty nice. Roll, man. Keep rolling. Parentheses. I know I should have done more of a tune-up, but honestly, the van was running pretty fine.

The interior was even pretty nice. Roll, man. Keep rolling. Parentheses. On these old Dodge vans, the engine access is inside the car, in between the driver and the passenger. So Shane and Tyler or Shane and his sister,

right in between them there. I hadn't even lifted it up when I bought it. I'm an idiot. I know. So I decided to change the spark plugs, the fuel filter, and the air filter. I am so capital letters.

Glad that I did. Gearheads. Shout out to the gearheads. I opened up the engine cover and sitting right on top of the engine was like grass, straw, and little bits of carpet. A mouse had made a home right there on top of the engine block. it's like the pub

i'm lucky it hadn't started a fire so i cleared everything out and changed the plugs and filter i remember yelling at tyler because he's the one who poured the oil in and i was like how the fuck did you not notice there was a fucking rat's nest on top of the fucking engine block when you were pouring the fucking oil and he was like it's an old car i was like lol wtf bro so anyways we drive up into oakland and meet up with my friends there we stayed at their house overnight smoked marijuana there you go ate a meal and chilled out a little bit. That's dope. Then we set off for Mount Shasta and Lake Shasta. Parentheses, it's a really

beautiful lake. Lake trip. We camp over at Mount Shasta. It's beautiful. The lake was really low, but the water felt great. Parentheses, not really critical to the story, but go if you ever get a chance. Cool. Thank you.

Finally, we get all the way up down Not really critical to the story, but go if you ever get a chance. Cool. Thank you. That's nice of you. Finally, we get all the way up down to Oregon, into the Cascades, and then head into Washington. The whole time we're hiking, camping, spending time with Mother Nature. She's the best. Teresa. Sometimes. Yeah. It's really just one of the coolest experiences of my life.

Parentheses. Not sure what the summit was, by the way, in the photo below one of the coolest experiences of my life. Parentheses. I'm not sure what the summit was, by the way, in the photo below. Tim standing on top of him out. To live life like that. Right up there at the peak. The climax. I just don't even know the summit. Don't even know what the summit was.

I don't care in the world. So here's the thing about old cars, by the way. Especially ones with carburetors. Yeah. You need to adjust them for altitude. I never would have thought of that an ideal fuel ratio at sea level is called stoichiometric stoichiometric nailed it it's russian stoichiometric which means 14.7 parts air to one part fuel everybody knows that classic conversion as you gain altitude you need to lean out your carb jets.

Mount Jefferson is something like 10,000 feet. So as we're driving up, probably around 6,000, 7,000 feet, the van starts running way too rich. Too much intake. It was obvious. So I was like, Tyler, pull over, bro. I'm going to lean out these jets. Typical gearhead stuff.

It was Gearhead 101. On a single barrel carb, you're only dealing with a few screws and springs. And basically, you just kind of guess at it. So I'm just listening to the engine. And then I would reach over and tap the gas pedal to see how it sounded. How's she sounding? How's she sounding? it's a little rich so tyler steps out of the van and i'm hunched over the engine just twisting on the screws and

i hit the gas and tyler is like holy shit at first i'm like oh my god something is on fire so i pop up and look around i'm like what tyler? Tyler's like, what the fuck is that? I look down at the carb and I'm like, I don't know. What part are you looking at? Does something look broken? He's like, no, dude, look on the cover. I looked to my left on the underside of the engine cover and there's what appears to be a brick of aluminum foil and it's taped up with aluminum tape. The clamshell cover.

Immediately I'm like, oh, shit. What the fuck? So I stop what I'm doing. I turn the engine off and start slowly prying this aluminum brick off the underside of the clamshell. Tyler's freaking out. He doesn't do drugs, by the way. Classic Tyler. Classic.

Sober. So I stop what I'm doing. I turn the engine off and start slowly prying this aluminum brick off the underside of the clamshell. Tyler's freaking out. He doesn't do drugs. He's a clean guy. Classic Tyler.

He's like, oh my god, it's like on cops when they find drugs hidden in the car. Bad boys, bad boys. What you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come the car. Bad boys, bad boys. What you gonna do? What you gonna do when they come for you? Bad boys, bad boys. What you gonna do?

What you gonna do when they come for you? Todd just got hard. I get the brick untaped and then undo like seven layers of foil. They use a lot of foil on this thing. I have to. What I found was a white, perfectly shrink-wrapped brick. I thought it was Coke for a minute. So I cut open a bit of the corner, like in the movies,

put some on my finger, and rubbed it on my gums. Great idea. Simple little gummy option. If you've ever done Coke, by the way, you know it's kind of hot. And then it makes your gums numb. Been there. Chopper popper. This definitely wasn't coke, says Shane.

Powdered sugar. And I'm not the type of dude who does heroin. Oh. Parentheses. Just don't do heroin. Seriously. Thank you for that. It's no good.

Agreed. Those are the type of people you should judge, by the way. No judges. No, no. Real judges. You take heroin, you will be judged. I always thought heroin looked like brown sugar. Is that what you thought? No, it's white. It's perfectly shit-grapped.

He said it right here two threads ago. China white. Thank you. So, Tyler and I are standing next to each other when I hear tires on the gravel behind us. Let me paint you a picture. We're standing there with the hood up, clamshell open, side by side with a brick of pure heroin.

Who do you think rolled up? Who? A goddamn park ranger rolls up behind us. It's just a park ranger. Just so you know, park rangers are the police. They have guns and they just happen to work in a park. They can arrest you and everything. Still the po-po.

I'm holding a brick of heroin in my hands, and there's a park ranger 30 feet behind me. So I reach down and pretend to dive into my tool kit. Thankfully, my hands are greasy as hell. Can I pick up some tools? And I can pick up some tools. So I slide this brick of heroin under the seat. I pop around with and pretend I'm putting a socket on a breaker bar.

And I'm like, oh, hey there. How can I help you? The guy's like, you guys having some trouble? I'm like, I'm just a socket on a breaker bar. And I'm like, oh, hey there. How can I help you? The guy's like, you guys having some trouble? I'm like, I'm just trying to jet the carbs. He's like, oh, I remember doing that when I was your age. Nice little conversation with him. Yeah, he's a good guy. And he's like, you ever done that before?

I'm like, I'm kind of just learning as I go here. We're from California. Dude laughs, and he's like, here, I'll show you. So the ranger walks over, and he's like, I remember these old Ram vans. So much room. What's he implying there? Sex. Yeah.

This van's a rocking. Don't come a knocking. Especially in the woods. We open up the clamshell and the guy's knee is like two inches from this brick of heroin that I just put under the seat. Man, I'm trying so hard to act normal. But Tyler, remember? Tyler? He's not playing it cool at all.

Of course not. He's like, you know, I'm sure Shane can figure it out. We don't need you wasting your time on us, Mr. Park Ranger. Ranger's like, oh, no, no. It's no big deal. Most of the time, I'm just telling people to put their trash higher up so the bears can't get to it. Good advice, actually. So he's just chatting with us, and I'm telling him how we bought the van and drove all the way up the coast

Etc. Etc Finally, we get the jet set and the Rangers like alright you boys stay safe like he had no clue He was probably two inches away from the biggest drug bust in the history of Oregon true true true Once he drives off Tyler's freaking out. Oh, my God. What are we going to do, man? And I'm like, we're going to make a shit ton of money selling a brick of heroin. So I wrapped it up and just stuck it in the bottom of the cooler in the freezer bags underneath the ice.

Then we drive up into Seattle and I call one of my buddies who I know sells a shit ton of weight. Good friend to have. Yeah. I'm like, yo. Star, star, have yeah i'm like yo star star star star star name has been removed redacted smart good word we need to talk i won't go into all the details but i managed to sell it all to one person it was lower risk plus i'm not a drug dealer for the record my buddy tyler wouldn't take any of the money eventually i convinced him to let me give him six hundred dollars for the van.

Just take it. So I could say I bought the van myself. The van was originally in his name. Not anymore. But this story is not over yet. What? No, no. Nope.

I end up selling the van to some hippies from Ashland and then move to Atlanta, other side of the country. About a year goes by, and I'm not even thinking about this van anymore. Then I get a phone call from a number I do not know. Let that shit go to voicemail yeah absolutely probably some sales probably tell workers i'm a sales guy the same number calls me again 30 seconds later so i'm like i guess i'm gonna answer it hello the voice on the other line hey can i speak to shane i'm like Hello? The voice on the other line, hey, can I speak to Shane? I'm like, speaking.

You got him. You got him. Dude is like, hey, my dad gave me your number. He said he sold a van to you about a year ago. Immediately, I'm like, yeah, he sold me a van. The guy's like, wow, that's great news. I'm so glad I found you. I don't like to talk about this, but I was in jail. I had a substance abuse problem, and I ended up going to jail because i made some mistakes i'm thinking like what's the angle here so i'm like oh well that sucks anyway how can i help you so the dude goes in this crazy ass long story he tells me about how he was so many memories in that van yeah it was in his dad's name but it was his first car i know it's just a beat-up old van to you but i'd really like to buy it back from you dad says you paid something like 1200 for it i think i'd be willing to go as high as say 1800 to get that thing back the memories are just worth that to me the guy said the light

goes off in my head jail substance abuse he wants abuse. He wants the van back. He's willing to pay $600 back over what I paid for. Street value bagged up if you slow sell it. There was something like $40,000 worth of heroin in that brick, by the way. Parentheses. I want parentheses there. This dude wanted his brick back. The guy didn't go to jail because he had a substance abuse problem. No heroin junkie can afford $40,000 in heroin.

The guy did time because he was a plug. So? I decided it was time to make some money. Brick squad. Fuck. Now, we all know that I sold this van to hippies and I don't own it anymore. But I definitely know who I sold it to and I know I can buy it back. So I

start spinning a story. I'm like, man, 1800 just won't do it. I put a lot of money in this van. It's really running like a top now. It's my daily driver. He's like, oh yeah. I'm like, yeah, dude, she's in great condition. I redid the carb, the brakes, all the fuel lines, put some tires on it.

Redid the carpet on the interior a lot. I've probably put at least, I don't know, 5,000 into this thing. He's like, wow, you really did a lot. I'm like, yeah. So he's like, where are you located? I'm like, oh, I'm up in Ashland, Oregon. Reminder, I was in Atlanta at the time. He's like, oh, that's not too bad if it runs as well as you say.

I might just drive up there with a friend and then drive it back down here. California, Oregon. So finally, he's like, I respect that you put a lot of work into it. Like I said, the van has a lot of sentimental value to me, and I'm glad to hear you took care of it. I think I could offer you $6,200 for that van. That's what you paid for it. Plus the 5,000 you say you invested. So I say, all right, you have a deal. As soon as we hung up, I called the people in Oregon that I sold the van to. Parentheses, I kind of sort of knew them through friends. And I was like, hey, do you still have that van they're like yeah but it's not

running no more i'm like oh i was like you care if i buy it back from you the guy was like dude i'll sell it for a hundred dollars if you just get it out of my driveway bingo i tell him sold nice i booked a ticket to portland the next day and then rented a car and drove to ashland along the way i called the old owner of the van son i, hey, will you be free to drive up this weekend? He's like, oh yeah, totally. I can come up. It will only take me two days to drive up there. It was Tuesday.

We agreed to meet on Sunday. I fly to Portland, run a car, and then get to Ashland on Wednesday. I go to an auto parts store and I buy a battery jumper kit and some hand tools. I need to get the van running and I need to get the van running soon. I go to see the van and it's sitting there pretty dusty, but otherwise, not bad.

The only thing wrong with the van was a bad battery. The couple that I sold it to just didn't want to spend the money on the van because they had recently purchased Subaru Outback. Oregon. Fine machine. Go figure, it's Ashland, he actually said. So I changed the battery in an auto parts store parking lot. Then I took the van to one of those self-cleaning car wash places and gave it a good wash in a vacuum honestly it cleaned up really nice cleaned up really nice at this point I decided to check

in with the guy and kind of fuck with him a little bit in the process the guy answers really fast and he's like Shane buddy what's up I'm like, I do want to mention one thing about this van. I was trying to be honest with the guy. And I hope this doesn't change your plans about coming up and buying this on Sunday. He goes silent and says, what's up? I was like, I don't want you to be mad, but after I bought the van, my friends and I, we rode on the outside of it with permanent marker i can't get it off i tried and i hear him sigh like hell aloud oh that's fine i can repaint it i'm like i want to be fair on the price because i didn't tell you that information so how about i just

knock 200 off i just want to pay whatever is fair to get the marker off he says thanks for telling me i'll accept that $200 discount and I'll see you Sunday. I'm like, yup. So next thing's next. I need to make a fake brick of heroin. So

I head to a Goodwill and buy a medium-sized paperback book. It was the Pelican Brief. I thought that was a funny detail for some reason. Parenthesis, good book. Also, good movie. Oh, yeah. I never saw it.

Denzel's better movies. To be honest, this is Pat talking, not Shane. I didn't know that book even existed. Then I got in my rental and took off to Medford because I couldn't find aluminum tape anywhere near Ashland. I got there, got my my rental and took off to Medford because I couldn't find aluminum tape anywhere near Ashland. I got there, got my tape, and then bought some heavy-duty foil in a grocery store.

From there, I drove back to Ashland. Making the fake brick was actually pretty easy. I just wrapped it up the same way I remember the brick being wrapped and then taped it down with aluminum tape the same way I remember it being taped. Kind of like a tic-tac-toe board. They had taped the shit out of it. remember being taped kind of like a tic-tac-toe board they had taped the shit out of it and i just kind of waited on friday i got a phone call from the dude letting

me know he was on his road and i said hey my mechanic says we can use his bay in case you want to inspect it and the dude was like oh that won't be necessary i'm like oh i insist on saturday i called a local mechanic and was like hey i'm selling my van to some people from out of state and i was hoping i could give you 50 in case they want to use one of your bays to look under the car for a moment. Parenthesis car buying tip. This is from Shane talking. Any mechanic worth his salt will take you up on this offer. It's good for both the buyer and the seller to have a mechanic take a little look-see.

He's not wrong. It's good advice. They know they'll be getting any work on any fix they identify. Oh. End of parenthesis. We meet at this local shop on a Sunday afternoon. The guy shows up in a late model silver Nissan Altima. He's heavily tattooed.

And so is his friend. These guys look like real OG Mexican gangbangers. Like dude is wearing blue Nike Cortez's and Dickies. It's that look. No more like doors. See? Immediately, I realized these aren't the soft dudes I thought they were. They're real gangsters.

They move real weight. And I'm doing something incredibly stupid. I'm about to rip off two guys who look like they bury people neck deep and let coyotes eat your face off. But I'm there. And they're in front of me. So I got to go through with it. So I give them a tour.

We walk around the van. It's clean. It has tire shine on it. I've washed it and even waxed it. It looks as good as a 1979 Dodge can look. The guy's like, so you've done some engine work? I'm like, yeah. Carb plug, wires, plugs, distributor, et cetera.

He's like, can I take a look? So I help him lift the clamshell. And there's no rat's nest anymore. It's looking cleanish. And it's sort of silent. So I talk. When I got in here, there was a huge rat's nest. I cleaned that out and got to work on the carb, the plugs, wires, belts,

hoses, not horses. It's all new in there. was a huge rat's nest i cleaned that out and got to work on a car but the plugs wires belts horses hoses not horses it's all new in there then dude reaches over and straight up taps the aluminum brick i start sweating he looks at me i look at him the first thing that came out of my mouth was i didn't bother redoing any of the heat shielding on the clamshell honestly i prefer having some heat coming off the block in the winter but i can can see why you did it. Southern California is hot. I was trying so hard to play dumb as hell, and I sold it. He says back to me, yeah, this tape costs about $20 a roll, but it's worth it to beat the heat.

I laugh, yeah, the AC just barely works. I think we got a leak in the system somewhere. Then he throws a curveball at me. Can I take it for a drive? I'm like, oh, totally. He's like, do you mind if my friend drives behind me in case it breaks down? I say, oh, you go right ahead. At this point, I'm thinking he's going to drive off, never to be seen again.

He's gone for about 20 minutes, and then he comes back. He's got a big smile on his face, and he's like, wow, it still drives great. Let's negotiate. So I'm like, well, you did say $6,000 after the $200 discount. He comes back to me he's like well i gotta ship this van back i'm like okay well what's a fair price he says you have the title here in your hand i said well actually i had to do a lost title but i can mail it to you in like a week the reality was i did but hadn't done transfer from the old couple yet yeah take some time he's like all right

you know you seem like a good guy you can mail it in a week i'm like yep he says five thousand because it'll cost me a thousand a ship you're a wild man for driving this old beast as far as you did so we shake hands it's a deal i have a notepad with me and i say all right let me write you up a bill of sale so i write his name my name his address and my address a local address that i definitely have never lived and never will. And the cost of the vehicle, this is a funny little wrinkle, I thought. I said to the guy, hey, I'm going to write on the bill of sale that you only paid $1,000 for this van so you can avoid paying more taxes in California when you go registered.

You pay taxes on the sale. He's like, oh, thanks. I didn't think of that. Using the hood to press on, I signed my name. He signs his. And then he's like, all right, here's the $5,000 cash. So he hands reaches into his pocket. And when he does, he moves his shirt in such a way that he obviously exposes a gun in his waistband.

Oh, shit. He pauses. As he's handing me the cash, he smiles and says, Thanks for taking care of my van, Shane. I'm relieved to see you left my heat shielding how it was. There's a lot of value in heat shielding. Some might say it's worth quite a bit. He gets this look in his eyes.

It's dark. He continues. You seem like a smart guy. Smart guys don't talk about things they find they might even buy new aluminum tape but be careless enough to leave the roll in the back seat my throat turned into a knot like my whole mouth went dry as fuck he stares into my fucking soul like into me fam and he gets his big ass smile on his face grabs me by my shoulder and smiles if you're even smarter you would have asked for ten thousand,000. Then he starts laughing.

And the guy he's with starts laughing. You know, you're a hustler, Shane. What do you do? I breathe a sigh of relief. I'm just a web developer, bro. He says, you could have been a stone cold hustler in another life. I've never been hustled before, but you you had the cojones to get your money.

Cojones. I like that. They hadn't checked to see what was inside the foil They only knew that it was taped They only knew that I taped it back So I went with it Well you know I found it when I was working on the van I just didn't know how I'd ever sell it So it's been in my freezer for a year now The heroin

He busts up laughing Me and the gangsters were having a laugh. Homie, you kept it in the freezer? That's wild, man. That's wild, let's say. So then we just sort of chop it up outside the mechanic's shop for about 20 minutes, just having a nice conversation. He and I had the same taste in rap music.

I wanted to just keep him happy. I was trying to think of my exit plan. Finally, he's like, all right, you know I don't want this van but ship it to me anyways here's 5 000 keep the change to be clear he had given me 5 000 already for the van and then gave me another 5 000 i played it cool close enough to 10k i dapped him up as soon as they left the parking lot i sprinted into the mechanic's office where he was sitting, and he was like, son, that was the most obvious drug deal I've ever seen.

I've already called the police. What? I felt my heart go from zero to one million. No way. Then the mechanic winks at me, and he's like, I'm fucking with you, man. What a dick.

This is Oregon. Everyone smokes weed. Classic Oregon. Calm down. I didn't call the cops. He sees my face, and he's like, you should have seen the look on your face.

Parentheses. I wasn't amused. The problem was the clock was ticking. I didn't know when those dudes were going to open the foil and realize I just hustled them. So I was like, hey, if I give you $200, will you let me keep that van parked here for

two days until I can get it shipped? He's like, if it's here longer than two days, I'm going to charge you. If it stays here, it's mine. So I was like, that's fine. I'll be back. I knew at that moment the van was going to belong to him. I was never coming back.

Most states have laws for mechanics like that, by the way. Fun little fun fact. I walked out of the mechanic's office and then walked literally seven miles back to my rental, parked at my little motel. Ashland is a small town, and I had picked the cheapest motel. Iland is a small town and I picked the cheapest motel. I want to say it was like a Super 8 or something.

Sounds right. The road this motel is on is like pretty long and straight. Like you could see a full quarter mile down the road which is where I live my life by. Yeah. One more time. No problem. As I'm about 400 yards away from the entrance I see a silver

Nissan Altima pull in and go to the front office. As I walk closer, I see two guys get out, and I realize it's the same guys. They haven't seen me, but we're staying at the same fucking motel. So I start speed walking. When I checked in, it took a while, so I knew I needed to hustle, so I wasn't seen. I took off the flannel I was wearing,

so I'd be in a white tank top. I folded the flannel i was wearing so i'd be in a white tank top i folded the flannel up and super small and walked as fast as someone can walk without looking like a moron zito you know he's saying yeah oh yeah my room was on the back side of the motel upstairs basically as soon as i cleared the vision line of the back wall i went into a full sprint and ran as fast as i could up the stairs and into my room. No sooner than the moment I slammed my door, I went over the drapes and peeked out. The Silver Ultima was driving around. I shit you not, these guys parked two spaces away from my rental car. In their room, directly below mine.

It's a damn cheap hotel, so I could kind of sort of hear them talking. Not word for word word but definitely the vocal tones plus their tv when i saw i was when i saw i was quiet as a mouse i mean i just sat in bed didn't turn the tv on didn't move and when i had to pee i held it i was terrified and then i heard it i heard the guy yell motherfucker ifucker, I'm going to kill him. Then I hear them screaming, but it's not clear what they're saying. They yelled for like 15 minutes.

Then they got quiet. Then my phone rings. It's a block number. I sent the voicemail. Fuck you button. Rings again. Block number. Sent it to voicemail.

Fuck you button. Then I hear them yelling a bit more. and then i hear the door downstairs slam i peek out of the little gap in the drapes and watch them take off as soon as i saw the car clear the corner i left i grabbed my backpack flew down the stairs and got into my rental i was getting the fuck out of ashland before i got killed i'd been on the road for about an hour when a guy calls me again, this time from his real number, not a blocked number. I answered, hey, motherfucker, what's up? He's yelling, we got a fucking problem. You need

to bring me my money right fucking now. I was, did what I do. That's what I did. I was, did what I do. Classic. And talk a little shit. Yeah. I take it you're not a big fan of john grism novels you should really give him a chance before you get angry the dude flew off the handle

like he's just shouting mother fuck i'll kill you over and over and over so finally i'm like calm down just listen i think we can make a deal here so he gets a little less on the edge what's your deal he says i said look i know you're staying at the whatever motel it was that we're staying we'll meet up there you show me you've got your gun on the hood of your car so i know i'm safe he's like okay and and then i said then i'll take the Pelican brief wrapped in foil and I'll give you what you really want here. A Tom Clancy novel. Everyone loves war fiction, man. He got quiet. He didn't say shit.

I'll fucking murder you, Shane. You rob me. You fucking die from this. Then he hung up. fucking die from this then he hung up in 2017 the guy ripped off for his brick of heroin was found guilty with four other guys of raping and murdering a 13 year old girl they were all prominent ms-13 gang members he got life without parole in his sentence so it looks like he won't be killing me anytime soon and that's the story of the time i bought a van with a brick of heroin in it that belonged to an ms-13 gang member sold the brick and then sold him his van back with a wrapped

up john grisham novel for ten thousand dollars somehow i didn't die and scene joining us now the guy that wrote that incredibly long novel about ripping somebody off mr shane morris thank you shane hey couple quick questions uh incredible story by the way happy you survived through all of it the couple death situations there first things first the ms-13 are still a gang do you have any fear at all that you're no they are i was told they broke up i thought they're like singer no but i'm saying are you do you have any fear at all because when i chose to retweet it i want to let you know i had some fear for you. I was like, you know what? I don't know if this is the right move for old Shane.

I let it fly. It has taken off since then. You've obviously sold the story at some point. Is there any fear at all in the 6'3", 225-pound Shane Morris' brain that at some point the MS 13 are going to remember that brick of heroin that you duped them with, with a fucking Dodge van. I mean,

I, you know, I think there's always a risk, you know, like gang members are going to be gang members, you know, like they, they,

they can kill whoever they want. I just, I think that, Hey, you know, maybe if there's any, uh, MS 13 guys who listened to your podcast,

I just want you guys to know that if I do make any kind of money off this, I do know the guy's name, and I do hear that putting money in the commissary is a cool thing to do. I'd like to remain alive. We could do a little barter. You get some Doritos. I stay alive. Seems like a pretty good trade.

Please don't kill me. So, yeah, I mean, I thought about it. But, yeah, I mean, I just have to assume that, like, 10 years is enough time. You know, it's not like I didn't do it to, like, disrespect MS-13. I had no idea this guy was gang affiliated when I decided to rob him for a brick of heroin. Well, the good thing about that. It wasn't a robbery. You know, like, I accidentally ended up with his heroin.

Like, honestly, this is, like, this is, like, a cautionary tale for people who are in MS-13 to be more responsible with your drugs. Well, the good thing about MS-13 members is they say they're very understanding. Yeah, yeah. They would be very understanding knowing that you didn't do this on purpose. Time cures all.

Yeah, I know. I hear that they're just some of the most rational gang members. So it's good to know that. Have you thought about the moment of when you're in the same motel there in Ashland and they call you and your phone accidentally being on loud

instead of vibrating? Dude, you know what's kind of crazy? I actually just talked about this, so I guess it's a side note, which is kind of a cool announcement. This is a cool segue. I will be a screenwriter for William Morris Endeavor. Okay, WME, congratulations. Yeah, yeah. announcement this is cool segue so um i will be a screenwriter for william morris endeavor okay wme congratulations yeah yeah uh this guy ryan feldman who's now my agent so i guess i have to

get used to saying that um yeah i kind of told him the backstory and this is just one of those weird things usually i have my phone on full loud for whatever reason that day i had like accidentally i think i had in my pocket somehow ends up i'm silent um so like man like i thought about that i was like or you know if you ever had like your phone on vibrate on a tabletop and it's like even louder than ringing it's like you know like i'm so glad that didn't happen because they would have heard me and um and then i would have been very dead in a creative way. Just fucking irony getting you in the end. Did you ever think that maybe after you found the brick of heroin and then got away with the park ranger

and then you got away with selling said brick of heroin, that maybe when they called you and asked for that van back, that maybe you should have just let it go and not tried to roll the dice? And the fact that you thought that there was just going to be some poor little white kid looking for his van back is a wild decision. I would have thought for sure it would have been some characters. Yeah, you know, you could probably gather this from the thread, but thinking things through has not always been my strong point in life. And so, no, I was hypnotized. This is going to be the dumbest reason that anybody's ever done anything.

At the time, I really wanted to buy a Mazda Miata. And so I was like, man, this is a cover-and-down payment on a Miata. I'm just thinking this, and I did end up buying a Miata. So, you know, I think – I don't think a lot of people would have done the same thing in my situation. In fact, like, judging by the replies to the Twitter thread, I think I'm probably one of the few people who's like, yeah, this is a brilliant plan you have. So I guess would I have done the same thing today? No. As a married man who's got like other responsibilities in life.

No. Just because it would have taken way too much effort and time. But, you know, I was just looking at it like, I could sell the same brick twice now. This is genius. Shano. Also not a great idea, buying a Mazda Miata as a 6.3. Man.

That's true. So there's a life hack if you are a taller person. Corbo Clubman is the seat brand. There's a bracket that lowers you about two and a half inches. You, too, can fit in a Mazda Miata. Are you a a mechanic you said you're a web developer there at one point are you a mechanic I'm mechanically inclined I just think that uh when I was I was one of those kids you know that would just take apart a lawnmower just to kind of see how it worked and then put it back together uh just inquisitive and so when I got older, I got into cars. I mean, I always loved

working on cars and, you know, I always have some project car I'm tinkering on. So I just think that, you know, for me, it's the challenge. It's, it's a good hobby. You know, it's, it's relatively inexpensive depending upon, you know, whatever, but no, I just, uh, I wouldn't, I mean, I've done some really cool stuff like full on engine swaps by myself, you know, but, um, I've done some really cool stuff, like full-on engine swaps by myself, but I'm not a mechanic, no. Hey, Shane, do you think you cost that park ranger a job once your thread came out? I mean, honestly, that guy was so nice. I felt so bad for him because I'm thinking, like, dude, he's like, there's one person. I don't know how many people are jetting their carbs in an old van in the middle of Mount Jefferson National Forest or whatever it's called.

I guarantee you if that park ranger reads this thread, he's going to be like, you've got to be shitting me. I remember them. I remember them. The fan was terrible. Has your friend Tyler, who traveled with you, reached out to you since this thread has gone so big. Yes, he is furious. Why?

How come? Because he's into photos and he's linked with heroin now? Yeah, yeah. You know, this is what I think I tweeted about that. But, you know, millennials get so butthurt when you happen to implicate them in a story involving the world's most violent gang. They just get so upset about it. Do you think that maybe you were the reason that that man went from just selling heroin to putting people in barrels and murder?

Jesus, don't put that on me, Scott. Like he was just a drug dealer and then he lost his drugs. I hear your question. Some little white kid in Ashland, Oregon, hustled me. I think it's obviously a really tough question to answer, but, you know, I think she probably deserved it. I have been yelled at by a lot of teenagers on the Internet. I'm just kidding, obviously.

Teenage girls are mean. She probably said something terrible. I have a lot of – Now you're double down, Shane. I think that criminals are just, you know, they're going to do crime. Hey Shane, how much did you flip that brick for? Yeah. Great question. I actually, so, okay. Um, there's one person who does know the one thing that I was told by,

I did consult with an attorney before coming on this podcast. He said it was imperative that I not name the actual figure that I sold it for because some legal reasons that he cited that I don't understand, but basically it was, it was enough money for me to go and buy, like I say, a lightly used late model Honda Accord somewhere in that price range. We'll just give you a range. Well, because I think I saw you put a number out there for how much it's worth on the street. I think I do believe I saw that whether it was from your,

I mean, I believe I saw that, whether it was from your 40,000. I would say if you, not that I know a whole lot about selling heroin, but I do understand, I'm a Costco shopper, so I understand buying and buying. My guess is that even though the statute of limitations has expired

on the crime of selling a brick of heroin, the government can still come after you for taxes. Yes. The IRS. Yes. Yeah. Yes. The tax evader.

I, um, I, so you sold it for $10 on my drug. I don't, um, you sold it for a thousand dollars. Yeah.

You sold it for a thousand dollars. Good for you, man. Congratulations. $300. No. Um, yeah,

it was, uh, it was yeah it was it was enough for me to you know have a little bit of money saved up and you know if you're smart with it and you don't go in all I'm not going to teach people how to money launder on a podcast but the trick is to not put it in a bank account people tend to ask questions about

where you got it so yeah just life tips don't do that we all watch the Ozarks I want to let you know I can't thank you enough for the entertainment that you provided it. So yeah, just life tips. Don't do that. We all watch the Ozarks. I want to let you know, I can't thank you enough for the entertainment that you provided. Twitter, I can't wait to see what you do as a screenwriter now. I'm pumped up, man, for you. Congratulations

on becoming literally a celebrity overnight and I hope it all works out for you in the end. I hope the government doesn't get you. I hope the MS-13 doesn't get you and I hope you go on to do great things. I appreciate you so much. I am shane morris thanks so much guys appreciate you man thank you thank you shane actually i have questions now uh how do you get the number well it's good i don't know can we call back real quick because that's how i want to know if the other guy why didn't you just why didn't you ask that question whenever he was here, literally taking Q&As?

Yeah, I just don't know. What number? How did he get what number? His number. How did he get? What do you mean? How did he get his number? Because he called him when he was in Atlanta, remember?

When he initially learned to buy it. His dad. His friend's name was on the paper. Yeah, but you don't know his number. Yeah, you're right. It was technically under Tyler's name. So they would have called Tyler first, not him. That was the fourth time that i heard it when you just read it i also had a problem with the seven mile walk back from yeah to the hotels about two hours and for some reason they weren't

getting back until after he got back to the hotel yeah why why weren't they going back to california why are they staying in ashland great question question. Long drive, Southern California. We should have asked all these questions. I forgot. You need a better person to read it. I thought he bought it from Tyler and put it in his name. What are we talking about? Yeah, but he didn't go back

to the dad to do that. He just gave him the money. What do you mean? I didn't like him reading it or myself reading it. You got to remember that's not going to be on the show. What do you mean? I didn't like him reading it or myself reading it. Pat just read it. Yeah, but you got to remember that's not going to be on the show. Oh, it is on the show right now. Yes. Yeah, what we're doing right now

is on the show, yeah. It's off. Redact it. Well, then you also stepped on Evan asking a very good question. Go ahead, Evan. Oh, so now you're giving him a little bit.

Foxy. I thought Shane bought it from Tyler so then it would have been in his name yeah but Shane didn't go to Tyler the original owner and say hey I just bought this from Tyler unless you can look that up in the car records

since the dad at one point had the VIN we should have asked that question when they make this movie they're going to have to disconnect those dots themselves in the story they're going to have to disconnect those dots themselves in the story. They're going to have to show him giving his number for some reason to the dad so that it makes sense. And maybe Tyler didn't have a phone. Yeah.

I mean, it was whatever year. To be honest, if we're writing the movie, Tyler's out of the picture. It's Shane buying the van. Exactly. They cut him out completely. I think it is going to be a movie, though. It is. Or they bought the story so that no one else can have it,

and then it'll just sit in development hell forever. I think Miles Teller is going to be the actor. I hope not. Jax? Who? Is that Jax? No. Oh, no, that's Charlie Hunnam.

Charlie Hunnam is too much of a badass. Who's Miles Teller? He played Vinny Paz. Remember that Vinny Paz movie? No. Footloose? He's the guy from that drum movie that gets yelled at. Yeah, Whiplash.

Patrick Swayze? The Awkward Moment. We actually said his name was Miles. Footloose. Swayze's dead. Kevin Bacon. Who do you think Should play him Ty? I don't know

He said he's 6'3 200 Yeah I think you Channing Tatum Nice little sweet spot for him Oh that is Taylor Kitsch Taylor Kitsch

That's a good one How about Jason Segel? Are we gonna watch this movie When it comes out? I think it's a humor And he can do Dramatic acting Yeah maybe I think I will About the same size I think it's a humor, and he can do dramatic acting. Yeah, maybe.

I think I will. About the same size. I think you should be an executive producer. I'm dead serious. I think the shot in New Mexico with the horses is going to make for some good cinematography. The two-lane road, the trip, the whole thing. And then the intensity of that deal with the park ranger is going to be good. And then the intensity with the two gangbangers.

Why didn't they go back to the mechanic shop and kill him? The mechanic? Yeah, because the mechanic's the only other link, because he said it's Mike Bunce. They may have. Right? They may have. They could have.

The people that live at the fake address he provided locally, they're dead. That's what I was going to say. He definitely signed those fuckers' death warrants for sure. But when they make the movie, they're going to have to make it to where they catch him. They take him out to the desert. I mean, there's going to be a lot more conflict. It'll also be interesting to see what the tone is, whether they play it like a comedy

or if it's just like a straight-up thriller the entire time. Do you hear what Diggs just said? Slanderous against our guy, Shane. He joined our show, dude. Also, what was he doing in Miami? I wish i would have asked this dummy anthony um what he was doing in miami for like those two days and in those two days he's got the 2700 to buy a bike like probably bartender maybe maybe bartender flipping cash yeah doing something make two grand can i cast a park ranger digs has been cynical about this guy literally since he read it the first time.

I got to verify. I mean, very important question. He got out of the house fire. Okay? He got out of the house fire. Yeah. He got the brick with him. Correct.

He flipped the brick to Seattle. Right? Mm-hmm. And then the phone call comes in. Why is he running back into the burning house? I don't know. I guess he wanted a little bit more money. Because he was doing it all for $5,000 more. He needs to get fed. If he made up to, we don't know. But imagine if he doesn't. We don't have, because I guess he wanted a little bit more money. Because he was doing it all for $5,000 more. He needs to get fed.

If he made up to, we don't know. But imagine if he doesn't, we don't have this story. Big thanks to Shane Morris. Good luck with everything, too, by the way. Good for Shane. Well, there you have it. Mr. Justin James Watt. A song debut, which is a banger.

Run wild. Run Wild, and also a chat with a guy who just sold his story and is becoming a screenwriter, all because of the power of social media and Twitter. There was a lot of people in the room that didn't really believe this guy's story. I was not one of them. I am a big fan of this.

I think he's lucky to be alive. I think he was wild for going back and trying to get more money out of a situation, but he did it. And I also am happy that he's lucky to be alive. I think he was wild for going back and trying to get more money out of a situation, but he did it. And I also am happy that he's going to make it. Good for Shane Morris. I hope to hear more from him. I hope to hear more from you as well.

Tweet us hashtag endgame, hashtag endgame, and send us whether or not you think Shane Morris' story is going to be one where he ends up dead or alive. Honestly, it's kind of a... He took quite a big risk coming out of this. Oh, and if this movie gets made, he's going to be thrust into the spotlight times a billion. They're going to know where he's at.

Yeah. I don't know, man. I'm pulling for him. Great story. Cool guy. Great show. I enjoyed the hell out of it today. Tweet us.

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