The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 077 - Pop Culture Phenom Jeopardy James Joins Us

Episode Date: May 30, 2019

On today's show, perhaps the smartest man on earth, the most dominant Jeopardy! champion of all-time whose 29 day total has reached $2,254,938, the incomparable, James Holzhauer, joins the show for an incredible interview. They cover his strategy when it comes to Jeopardy and what he did to prepare before going into the show, what the taping process is like, how his career as a sports gambler has benefited him during his time on Jeopardy, whether or not his opponents respect his strategy or if he's gotten any blowback, what he considers some of his weaker categories, and ultimately, what comes next (2:25-35:32). Pat and the guys also talk more about one hit wonders and try to pin down what the actual last one hit wonder of all-time might be, and Pat recaps his trip to Fort Wayne for his speaking engagement at an event for Big Brothers Big Sisters of Northeast Indiana, and how the evening had a bit of scary start to it, some of the memorable moments, and how his speech differed from some of the legends that have come before him at the event. Today's show is a great one, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He was a professional sports gambler until he took a little time off here to dominate a little show called Jeopardy. From Naperville, Illinois, ladies and gentlemen, Jeopardy genius James Holzhauer! Hi, thanks for having me

Hey man, thank you so much for joining us I said a little bit ago I'm starstruck, I am a Jeopardy Watcher nightly and whenever you showed up as a professional sports gambler I was automatically on your side and watching what you have done has been awesome, James No, I think it's great

I've done a lot of interviews but this is the first time someone in a sleeveless hoodie has reached out to me. Okay, let's talk about it. Your entire life, have you been the smartest human in the room? And do you still, because every time you give an interview, you act as if you're just like, oh, I'm just one of the guys. Like I read kids' books. That's how I stay ahead of it. And then valedictorians come in there and you just slaughter them.

Like have you always been the smartest dude to walk into every room that you walk into? I guess. I mean, you know, I never finished at the top of my class in grades or anything like that. But, you know, if you gave us a trivia test or something like that, I was really good at things like math team in high school. Yeah. Did you know what was going to happen whenever you got onto jeopardy did you know that you were going to have a very successful run or were you just hoping to get a win let's see how it is it's going to be a fun

experience you know i knew that my tribute shops were good but the uh the buzzer is such a huge element and i practiced my buzzing before i went on but I wasn't really sure until I got there that this would be the winning buzzer approach, and I feel kind of lucky that it was. So what did you do? Did you study Trebek's cadence and just kind of catch his rhythm? Because your buzzer doesn't work until he's completely finished reading the question, the clue. Am I correct? Yes. So you can't see it at home, but they have kind of a border of uh lights

around the board that's activate whenever the buzzer system is turned on and they give you like half an hour to practice before the show but you know you can't do it from home obviously so at home you know you can practice with like a clicker pen or something like that and try to time alex's cadence but you really only get that half hour you actually see the lights and see how fast you can react to them okay so the light comes on and as soon as it's like uh almost in a drag race or in mario kart when it's like three two and you got to hit it right after the two to get the speed burst at the beginning it's kind of like that where a light hits up and that's when you can hit it uh you don't get the three second countdown but yeah other than that um you know i think i i know

playing a lot of video games i think is helpful in me timing pressing a button and i think some other champions have said this in the past too so i i said playing guitar here was more important than any other studying i did you being a uh professional sports gambler how much has that helped you in the in the ability to go ahead and just say hey this is fun coupons right now. It's not real money until we get it at the end. It's fun coupons. Let's go ahead and invest it and risk it.

Has that helped out immensely as well, I assume? Yeah, that's a great metaphor you just used. I think I say game pieces or poker chips or something like that. But, yeah, it's nothing unless you win the tournament. You don't get to cash it in for anything. And I think the attitude of, oh, this is 10,000 chips I'm betting, not $10,000, it is helpful. And also, you know, I've been in situations where I lost that kind of money before

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as a diehard jeopardy fan and a bit of a meathead i don't understand how anybody can hate what you're you go on to game shows attempting to win the most possible money that is available and that's what you're doing but there's some of these other people who are either contestants of jeopardy or people that you have beat that say that you're rigging the game and that you're only daily double hunting is and if you are why is that a problem and is that what you're doing well you know I don't think it's a problem but I'm not a traditionalist you know I go into sports betting I don't worry about what everyone else in the line is doing you know I find the edge and I tried my best to work with it you know and I'm not doing anything that's outside the rules of Jeopardy.

Maybe you could argue it's outside the spirit, I guess, but they've laid out the rules. They know about people. They know that people can come in and do things like this, and they've decided that it's a more fun game this way. And really, you know, there are plenty of haters, but viewership is still way up. I love that promo right there.

I think it's in the spirit of the game. I mean it's in the spirit of the game. I mean, that is the spirit of the game. The Daily Double. Trebek used to get so excited whenever somebody would say, true Daily Double, and nobody would ever do it. That was what Trebek was always looking for. Now you're a guy that's doing it. I think you are the spirit of Jeopardy.

I think those people should go fuck themselves. I'll say it. You don't have to. Has Ken reached out to you? Because I watched an interview just a little bit ago where his quote was, and I don't think he was saying anything negative. I think it was in a joking manner. But he said he doesn't like people calling you Jeopardy James because that's who he is. He's Jeopardy Ken.

Have you two chatted with each other? Yeah, he reached out as well. I asked for his contact info so I could reach out to him. And he offered a bunch of useful advice on how to deal with sudden Jeopardy fame. I think he's the only other person who's gone through this sort of thing. And even then, that was back in 2004, before the current age of social media as we know it. He did come up with some useful advice there on how to deal with everything that's going on, what to think about, what you want your media presence to be, how to deal with everything that's going on what to think about like you know

what you want your media presence to be how to deal with that and you know he and i engage in some friendly trash talk on twitter but uh really you know he's seems like a nice guy who's ready for uh his records to be beaten if it's the time that's awesome i think you're the guy by the way um you had a close call a week ago what happened yeah was it just not good categories for you were you off what was it no you know i really feel like i'm playing my best game every time i'm out there you know i get some competitors who are really really good at what they're doing and you know sometimes the daily doubles don't fall my way uh you know it's it's a game it's it's like football you can be the 2007 patriots and not win every single time. Sometimes a bad bounce is going to get you,

and eventually that will be the end of me. Do you have any weaknesses? Does Jeopardy track like you're – so for Fear Factor back in the day with Joe Rogan, to get on that show, I actually looked into this, you fill out the things that you're scared of. It's like you're setting yourself up for them to absolutely destroy you on tv for jeopardy do they like go through a comprehensive comprehensive like

background check to see what your strong point is and what your weaknesses are and are they looking for that they do a couple of trivia tests on your way in so they have like some data on what questions you got right and got wrong but it's illegal to rig a game show to favor one contestant over another so i would have to assume they're not doing anything bad like that uh you know the past seasons of jeopardy are publicly available data and you can kind of see what topics are going to come up over and over but there was one category a few weeks ago about monty python phrases that i I went in completely unprepared for. What is the one that popped up that you, well, I'm sure it seems as if it's every category,

but is there, has there been a category that has popped up that you were just like, oh, I'm just going to roll right. Or an entire board, maybe that you see the, all of them. You're like, oh, like in white men can't jump. Uh, Ro, Ro, Ro, Rosie, she knew everything is the Q or something like that has there been a board that has popped up where you're like oh this is my boy i'm gonna steamroll right through this board has that happened yet or are you expecting it to i wouldn't say an entire board there's definitely been categories uh there was a dodger baseball category on this tuesday's episode which okay you know i have to do this for a living. So I'll start with that. How do they record it?

Is it daily recording or do they lump up in the front of the week and then you kind of got a week off? They do two taping days a week. They're back-to-back days, usually Tuesday and Wednesday, and they do five episodes a day. So they're taping basically two weeks worth of episodes each taping week. Okay, you're in good spirit, so congratulations. I don't want to give away anything.

No spoilers. They're done taping for the season already now, so even if I'm still going, I won't be back in the studio until July. Okay, so this is your second speed bump that you're going to have to run into. That teacher's week, were you scared that that was going to interrupt your flow, or was that a time for you to kind of go home home reset with the wife and get some more clothes they actually taped the episodes out of order um so the the episodes that are airing now were taped i think a few weeks before the teachers tournament happened so did not interrupt the flow oh okay all right so i think

it's kind of funny because i think they normally schedule these tournaments for sweeps week to get some nice ratings for their ad. The ratings fell 25% or something. Everybody was frustrated that teachers week came. And normally it's like the junior is a big one, the teenager and the college one's big. Because it looks like one of us is up there, right? And by one of us, I mean me, who's somebody who, if I get one right, if I beat you, by the way, I've beaten you one time. I want to let you know that.

I don't know about the timing, but I've beaten you one time in your run, and I've never felt smarter in my entire life. I ran around my house. I felt so good. Has Jeopardy always been your favorite game show? Because you were on The Chase as well, I believe. Yeah. Well, you know, The Chase didn't exist when I was a kid.

Jeopardy! of course has been around forever, and it was the one I watched as a kid and said, hey, this would be something that would be really fun to do when I'm growing up. So as soon as they introduced the online test, I think it was in 2006, I took it every year and kind of dreamed of this moment, although honestly I'm playing better than I ever thought I could have, so it's pretty amazing. I'm sure you get this question a lot.

Everybody that goes on there, you've got people that are lawyers, you've got doctors, you've got counselors, you've got people who have all been to school for a long time. You decided to be a professional sports gambler, And why is that? How is that? And how was that career for you? Is that something you'll go back to doing after this dominance of Jeopardy? So when I was a kid, I remember telling my dad, I would have been about 13, I think, when this conversation happened, that I wish there were a stock market for sports teams, because I thought that I could trade those for a living. And, you know, it didn't occur to me

until I would turn 21 and looked at the sports betting marketplace and how vast it is that this you know sort of concept really exists in the real world and I was already at a point in my life where I was doing mathematical analysis on like who's going to win the world series this year oh it's going to be the Yankees 15% of the time that sort of stuff anyway so you know I thought making some money doing it was a no-brainer I will say I ran pretty good the first year I was gambling, and if I hadn't had that boost of confidence right away, I might have gone into the corporate world. I've never had to so far.

I certainly foresee myself. I have taken a couple months off to deal with everything else that's going on. Deal. But I definitely think I'll be back for football season and hockey and basketball and all that.'s a bad beat for you like do you um i've never really talked to a professional sports gambler that wasn't just a complete liar about the amount of money that they can everybody on the internet that talks about sports gambling talks about i'm betting 275 000 tonight on the under in the first quarter it's like no you're

not you're not doing that but you i believe as a actual it seems as if you're a well-calculated uh cerebral sports gambler what is like uh the standard operation there and will you utilize this jeopardy winning to kind of go take over vegas even more take over vegas well you know they got house limits i have to run into here and a lot of places have decided they, you know, well prior to the Jeopardy run that they don't want to deal with me because I'm winning too much of their money. Oh, wait. Hey, you've been banned from casinos already in sports books? Yes. Which one?

That is so awesome. Well, it's only awesome if you don't have to worry about where your next paycheck is coming from. True. Like those 21 kids getting run out of those casinos. I'm thinking of you with your iPhone calculator out like, oh, yeah, this is definitely going to happen. You know what I want. Give me all of it. And they're like, sir, get you and your fucking calculator out of here.

That's incredible. Can you tell us which places have refused to do sports business with you anymore uh for example like william hill they're uh the conglomerate that operates like i don't know 40 places around nevada tibet at they they have a well-known policy of kicking out anyone who's a long-term winner so they are i think the first ones to get rid of me uh cancer gaming they're another one of these conglomerates. They booted me. Yeah, it's a bunch of isolated ones. Are you 100% focused on Jeopardy right now? Is this full-time? This is what we're trying to do for at least the next couple months, I guess.

I mean, that's a wild thing to say. Well, that's a bit of an exaggeration. I mean, I'm not working, but I have a four-year-old kid, so that's a full-time job right there. And we just took a vacation to Sicily for a few weeks to kind of clear my head. That was good, I think. Okay, so when you go to Sicily, there's like museums and shit over there. Do you look around and just pick up little facts just in case it pops up? There were some, yeah.

I'm not sure how useful any of it's going to be, but, I mean, you know, if I'm at a museum and enjoying myself anyway, I might think, huh, I could file that away away make a profit off it someday a lot of mafia talk down there in sicily italians get wild down there yeah we were we were in a uh kebab shop there and uh some individual came out and said something to the owner and the owner came out with a bag of money to give to that person so hey nothing to see here james nothing to see here um what you said and i don't know if it was you being clever uh because your personality is also a good one on uh jeopardy normally those interviews between trebek and the contestants are must see tv for

train wreck operations you have a great personality you chat well. You told him that you study by reading children's books. That has to be complete bullshit. I can't believe you lied right to Alex Trebek's face. I don't know why I would lie about that. It's not like it makes me look good or anything. You know, it's the truth. I get bored reading dry wall of text. You know, it's not fun.

I mean, maybe, you know, I don't know if you have kids. If you read to your kid, this book is engaging. It's got pictures all over. It's got a little graph to show you what's going on. They keep you focused and you learn more, I think, in that environment. I think you've probably been asked this plenty of times before, but the next Jeopardy! James, what should that person be doing, trying to do? I mean, obviously, you have to have a photographic memory.

Obviously, you have to have a personality that wants to learn things but what are some things you, because you have to be well-read, you have to know a lot about sports, you have to know movies, you have to know history, you have to know so much. How does somebody attain all that information?

Is it just by kind of committing, like, I don't want to say, like, your entire childhood do it but it seems like that is the only way to do it you know i think that i have uh the kind of attitude towards life that you know if i have one shot at jeopardy i really want to maximize it uh do everything i can that's i think an important attitude if you really want to be jeopardy james um i would say you know know, I feel like I'm playing it about as well as I thought anyone could go out there and do. So, you know, maybe someone has a little better buzzer reflexes than I do.

But other than that, I think the next Jeopardy! James would go with a similar approach, similar knowledge base, and probably be playing a similar strategy. The buzzer is everything, huh? There was a guy on the other night that was so mad at you. He was almost breaking the buzzer because he couldn huh? There was a guy on the other night that was so mad at you.

He was almost breaking the buzzer because he couldn't get in before you. The buzzer is kind of the X factor in this whole thing, isn't it? Yeah, you know, I mean, everyone who is on the stage has passed two difficult tests to get on there. They all know the answers to most of the questions. And, you know, sometimes you just can't get in. It's got to be frustrating. Shout out to Guitar Hero, man. Shout out to Guitar Hero. Because you're so calm, cool, and collected too.

It's just down there right underneath the thing, just kind of hanging out. Whenever you go out for Jeopardy, I assume you think it's only a one or two day trip because that's the norm how do you take do you take your family with you or do they kind of move out once you're a week into this thing or well i guess you're only recording on two separate days so it's only a couple weeks in there but how does it all happen do you prepare for a two-day thing and then it turns into this or or what was the whole mentality going out? So there's a few things to get at here, I guess.

When I first went out there, I was only doing the second taping day of that week, so I knew that was only a one-day trip. I just booked that by myself. And then I came to come back the next week, and I went by myself for that. But they actually pay for your airfare. First class?

The recurring champion. Steerage, no. by myself for that but they they actually pay for your airfare uh first class returning champion steerage no uh so they book you a ticket that's like comes out the the night before the taping and then you leave the night of the first day and then they would have to cancel that ticket get me a new one for after the second day of taping and that continued for a few weeks uh after that the the third week i went to taping i finally brought uh my wife and one of my friends you know one of the problems is i can't just bring my wife ever be in the audience because she's someone's got to take care of the four-year-old and we don't know anyone in la well enough to just commit to babysitting at that point so we my friend and my

wife did a trade-off they taped three episodes in the morning and two in the afternoon. They traded the kid at halftime. Are you a coffee guy? Energy drink guy? I like Coke Zero, but no, the taste of coffee is horrible for me. So, yeah, that was a challenge. I could have used a little more pep than I had up there, I think. How do you come up with the clever ways to write your name down there? Hockey Stick was a good one. Hey, Hockey Stick was a good one, by the way. Top do you come up with the clever ways to write your name down there? Hockey Stick was a good one.

Hey, Hockey Stick was a good one, by the way. Topical, too, with the NHL playoffs. I thought that was very clever, especially if you're taping in advance. I mean, that's thinking ahead, good foresight. Obviously, you're Jeopardy Genius James. You're going to do that. But how do you come up with – are you getting bored with the things you're going to do for your name down there? to do for your name down there so my initial plan was to uh draw the first letter draw the first letter of a metal band logo uh into one of the letters of my name every episode but i ran out

about seven episodes kind of wing it from there i would not say there's a ton of uh thought that goes into some of these things there was one day where i uh i wrote my name kind of like in the font of the jeopardy logo and i actually got in trouble because I was, I was writing something down during the production meeting and they thought I was, I don't even know what, but you can't, you can't act like you're taking notes on something. Everything has to be above board. Those things that are separating you and the person next to you to your left. Obviously you've been there a long time.

Those don't seem tall enough for somebody if they want to cheat and look at your answer am i wrong yeah but i feel like the camera's always on you it's going to pick up if you're you're doing this are people starstruck when they see you now you know i don't know if starstruck is the right word although i uh i will say um i went to lunch a couple days ago and and afterwards I looked on Twitter and someone tweeted something to the effect of like, I think I just saw Jeopardy James at this restaurant and I couldn't even bring myself to mumble. The go nights go under my breath because it was like seeing the face of Jesus firsthand. Hey, that's going to make you feel good whenever you see some haters tweets, I assume. Have you been on social media pretty active? I've seen your Twitter growing.

I like what you're doing, by the way. Yeah, I would say a fair amount. You know, I just, I've literally never done Twitter before this, so I don't know anything about how it works. I'm just trying to learn on the fly. Well, James, I think the world has never seen anything like you, man. We're all trying to learn on the fly, knowing that a human like you exists. I mean, it's a whole nother level. When I said that earlier, I think the world has never seen anything like you, man. We're all trying to learn on the fly knowing that a human like you exists. To be honest. I mean, it's a whole other level.

When I said that earlier, I mean it. It's like all these humans that have their smartest friend get on Jeopardy. Yeah, like you meet a group at a bar or something. You walk up. You're like, hey, how's it going? And just something comes up like, oh, this guy got on Jeopardy. You're like, oh, shit, this guy's really smart. When were you on?

Oh, I was on in June june and uh in may in uh 2019 oh you got just completely buzzed on by jeopardy james it's an incredible feat man i think you should be very proud of what you're doing have you been paid yet or has that come at the end when you lose? They give you a check allegedly four months after your last episode airs. Allegedly. I have to lose eventually or I don't get paid. Wow. Hey, they need to fly you first class too. What you've done for Jeopardy is first class, man.

It's awesome. Is Trebek a cool guy? Has he become a big fan of yours? You don't spend a ton of time with him because these quiz show scandals they had back in the 50s, they want everything to avoid any appearance of impropriety now. But I think if you look at him in the interviews, he's genuinely kind of in awe of what's going on on the show. And I don't know.

I think it's cool to see him coming out and saying that. Jeez, James, you're awesome, man. We've got a couple guys in the room here that are fans. I'm sure there's some questions. Is that okay? Yeah, of course. You're the best, dude. Go ahead, Jeffrey. Key to the a couple guys in the room here that are fans. I'm sure there's some questions. Is that okay? Yeah, of course. You're the best, dude. Go ahead, Jeffrey.

Key to the city of Las Vegas. How was that for you? That was something I didn't see coming for sure. It was kind of a surreal feeling. I have one fun story about that. I was wearing a jersey of Mark Stone and the Golden Knights. We were by the Vegas sign at this key ceremony. There were some European tourists in line

to take pictures of the sign. They're like, who is this guy and why is there such a big commotion? You can see them Googling in their phones, Stone 61. Oh, it's a hockey player. It's so funny to think that Las Vegas, the city known for so much,

gave a key to the city to a Jeopardy contestant. Hey, James, while I got you, which way should I lean, Toronto or Golden State? Well, I don't, I mean, we all know the Warriors are the better team, right? So I guess it just depends on how many points you're getting on the Raptors or whatever kind of series prize. I mean, if you have any inside information on Durant's health, I would be very appreciative. Noted, noted. have any inside information on durant's health i would i would be very appreciative noted noted can you send me can you think you can email maybe like your best model i assume you've created a bunch of gambling models yeah do what do you have do you have a bunch of do

you just punch a bunch of things into a database you seem like a very statistic and uh organized like that type of operation over there there is uh i mean there's definitely models in play but you you got to really kind of synthesize everything you know. One of the tricky things is there's so much to learn about sports betting, and unless you have a friend who happens to be a sports betting pro, nobody out there is going to teach it to you because you become their competition once you're good at this sort of thing. Luckily, I knew some people who I did some consulting for years back,

and they taught me some important stuff about that sort of thing. Sports gambling is about to become nationally legalized. We're right on the brink of it happening. It's already happening in states that it happened in Indiana. Indiana's behind on everything. So as soon as that happens, I feel like that's kind of a gateway to everybody else. You doing what you're doing on Jeopardy! amongst other professions like best in crushing them is doing sports gambling such a positive PR spin.

I don't know if you've been thanked by the sports gambling people, but you should be. I don't even know who they are, but they should be thanking you. Yeah, I have done a few interviews with sites that are kind of proponents of the spread of legal gambling, and I think it's really cool. it's a big time in our industry you know if i can be of some help in putting a good face on it that's great well because i think the italians kind of had a kind of a headlock on the sports gambling world when people thought of sports gambling they thought

of uh oh big time tommy down there there at the corner running a book. You know what I mean? And now Sports Gambler's Finest is representing on the smartest show on earth. I mean, it's only good things, especially with it coming into legalization here soon. For instance, when marijuana is about to be legalized nationally, if some pothead gets on Jeopardy and just runs the table, that would be great for marijuana. Do you know who Dan Bilzerzerian is oh yeah yeah so my

poker playing friends tell me their uh their parents used to or sorry friends of their parents or whoever used to hear oh you're a pro poker player do you know dan bilzerian and now they say oh you're a pro gambler do you know james holtzauer i seem to think it's a better uh spin hey yeah you are the exact same as Dan Bilzerian. Todd's got one for you. When we watch Jeopardy post edit, it appears to be like a gentleman's game, a lady's game, but during recording, is there ever any kind of

trash talking that goes on? Do you try to get in each other's heads? No, it hasn't happened yet, and I think it's a pretty rare thing. We all are good sports up there. Everyone has been a great sport to me. I hope I've been a good sport happened yet, and I think it's a pretty rare thing. We all are good sports up there. Everyone has been a great sport to me. I hope I've been a good sport to them, but I can't say for certain that I have been. I'm trying.

That one lady is a hater, man. She is a hater. You have a hater out there. I mean, you just beat the hell out of her in Jeopardy, but she is a hater. And you know what? I can't wait for you to be done until you're the man that's answering all the questions everywhere. And you're the new standard for game show contestants. I'm not just talking about Jeopardy. I'm talking about

everything. Cause I think you've handled yourself in a manner that's so positive to always smiling. You look like you're enjoying it. It's not like too much for you. You're keeping your cool. You're respectful. I mean, you're literally just, this is a dominant performance in the in the proper manner yeah you know i'm just doing my best i uh i know take it one game at a time it's kind of a cliche but it's really the attitude you need to have up there i think i wish you would have just i wish you would just talk shit though ty schmidt into it oh yeah that was an easy. Don't you think, Trebek? A little bit easy. Ty Schmidt's in the back. James, have they approached you about the Legends tournament at all

or going against Watson? Because I think you have a legit shot to just blow Watson out of the water as well. Well, I mean, in terms of knowledge and ability to parse English trivia questions, I guess I could see me defeating Watson, although I think his mechanical edge on the buzzer, that was why he beats Ken and Brad in that super tournament, is just that he could buzz in faster than anyone else. I believe that IBM wiped all of Watson's Jeopardy playing data,

so I can get him when it's easy now. So I enjoyed the game, the chase, and they just took some genius from Oxford and put him at the the of a thing and had a bunch of trivia questions get asked are you preparing for what's about to come after this especially with the pop and uh topical just fame that you've had here there's going to be a lot of offers for you to do a lot of really cool things have you thought about that yeah you know it's it's difficult because new things keep popping up in the inbox every day. I can't talk publicly about a lot of them. Oh, wait, wait, wait.

Stuff I never foresaw is coming to pass right now. So I'm going to have some tough choices to make coming up. I think a very simple one, obviously, just like the chase, come and see if you can beat Jeopardy! James. You could probably take that on tour, I'd assume, and you'd be able to sell out just theaters everywhere like the stump the schwab show i mean the first thing that whenever i heard you were coming on the show which i'm so thankful you did i was like i wonder what everybody tries to do whenever he comes on stump him it's got to be the thing that is that could be something that's easy i mean i feel like you'll be able to run off this forever i don't know if you'll have to

place another sports bet in your life i uh did a interview on a Chicago area sports station and they set up a Jeopardy game where three of the five categories were about sports and the other two were like authors and presidents. And I was actually trailing in their Jeopardy game to the host of the show in the sports categories, but then the authors and presidents categories let me catch up. Okay, here's the clue this man is the all-time leading scorer in football at west virginia university uh that is a good question yeah thanks for coming on my show thanks for coming on my show james this has been a great time uh who is pat mcafee is the answer to that if that pops up on uh from

trebek you go ahead and hit that homer, will you, bub? Sure. I probably should have seen that answer coming. Well, James, I can't thank you enough for your hospitality, for your entertainment, for your humble humility. It's just, this is awesome. And I'm very thankful you came on this show. We honestly never thought it would happen. I'm such a big fan.

And this has been really, really cool. Hey, before I go, your producers promised me that since we're on a video, I could do your fake punt dance for the camera. Yes. I'm going to do my best, all right? There you go, James. James, you looked incredible there. You did it better than me, which is what I should have expected.

Just like you're doing game show and Jeopardy better than any human that's ever existed. You've been fun to watch, man. A real joy, a real treat to households and families all around the country. So thank you. And thank you for your hospitality today, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Jeopardy genius james holzhauer thank you pat it was a pleasure james you were so cool man thank you appreciate it oh this is this is great you know i uh one of the nice things about being offered so many interview

requests is like you can just do the ones that speak to you you know so it's it's pretty cool well i'm so thankful you came on man if you ever needing not that you will i'm just willing you can just do the ones that speak to you. So it's pretty cool. Well, I'm so thankful you came on, man. If you're ever needing, not that you will. I'm just wanting to know. Not that you ever would need anything, but if you're ever needing anything, you let me know. And I can't wait to watch your ride here on Jeopardy and keep promoting Hallity.

I think you're a good dude. All right. Thank you so much. Cheers, man. Have a great night. Tell the family you said hello. Okay. Will do.

See you, James. I did not expect him to be that good. you so much cheers man have a great night tell the family you said hello okay see you james i did not expect him to be that uh good right i didn't either amazing he was wide away more personality i thought he would have very charismatic he was wide open it helps when he likes the host and he obviously did you really did it really in his eyes when we were facetiming there i saw i was looking in his eyes it seemed like he is potentially a fan of what we got going on. We hit him right in the feels. I mean, he's a big sports guy, so he was all about you. Yeah, because I assume with the Jeopardy fan base,

the interviews he's been getting requested to, much different world. So then whenever this popped up on his radar, shout out to Nick Morado, by the way, Booker for the Pat McFarlane. Well, I was very skeptical about this guy. I thought the whole thing was rigged. So I wanted to get to the bottom of it. And I got to say, and I watched one of his performances this week

and I was very impressed. I've changed my mind. He's legit. Every single performance by him, by the way, is impressive. Every single one. Whenever he said in there that every single night

he thinks he's putting out his best Jeopardy performance, hilarious. He talks shit in a subtle way about how it could be disappointing, how other people can't get their answers in. I mean, he was just electric. I'm very thankful for old Jeopardy James. I think he's on Twitter, too, at...

Yeah, James Holzhauer. Holzhauer. Holzhauer. He was very open, but he wasn't that open about, like, hey, what's the recipe for other people to succeed? Yeah, and he gave me nothing on Golden State and Toronto. He doesn't want to give the playbook he's kind of busy well he said he hasn't been focusing on that he actually took the way he went to sicily remember because they've already recorded by the way he must be good for the next week yeah i'm assuming he seemed okay

little spoiler alert he was very happy uh and he said allegedly you get paid four months after you lose so we'll see i guess i'll have to lose at some point, he said. Man, we've still got a couple days left of the week here. Jeopardy's not going to be happy. You know what I like the best about it was when he said, you talked about Alex Trebek with him and stuff, and he's like, well, don't really hang around now, old Alex, too much

for the integrity of the game. By the way, I assume that is a real thing you have to deal with. People are already hating on him saying he's cheating. I mean, Nick was saying he was cheating very early. Yeah, fucking Nick said it a lot. But people probably think if he's palling around with... Diggs never said it, of course. Diggs, you would never say something like that.

But if you're palling around with Trebek in between takes, I'd assume the other people would get... What the fuck? Get away from him! Like that lady on CNN who's just dogging him. Imagine her dropping a... And... And... Trebek and James sharing a coffee together. And that lady on CNN, she's dogging him. Like, imagine her dropping a, and, and, Trebek and James sharing a coffee together.

Hobnobbing. That would be a big deal. That would completely ruin the integrity of Jeopardy. But it just adds to the thing of Trebek is like, you know, he's cocky when he gives the answers off and stuff, and I can just see him, it's like, nice to meet you. Not now. Not now.

I assume after the run's over. Exactly. After the run's over, they'll do dinner. Not now. Not now. I assume after the run's over. After the run's over, they'll do dinner. I assume. I would hope so, especially because the whole very close to remission thing's happening right here along the same lines. This is a massive moment for the legend of Alex Trebek's life. And for old Jeopardy genius James to come waltzing into town. I mean, it was just the perfect timing. And I'm so thankful.

We don't get guys like that. No, we don't. I mean, he's an amazing story because the show is gambling. I never really thought about it that way until talking to him, but knowing when to go low, when to go high, you know what I mean? Yeah. That mindset he brought in. The final jeopardy there, that is a 1,000% on whether or not you're confident in yourself.

I think the guy that was close to beating him, they both got it right. The guy probably didn't have as much faith in himself, and old Jeopardy James just outbid him because he's confident. There's a recipe for it. You've got to be confident. You've got to be well-read. You've got to have all those things, and it seems as if he's just got it. He's the making of a perfect Jeopardy player.

and it seems as if he's just got it. He's the making of a perfect Jeopardy player. I guess his wife was on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire, won $28,000 or something like that. So imagine old couple's trivial pursuit accidentally running into the fucking hose house. Don't invite them to game night ever again. Oh, my God. Oh, they just bred a four-year-old.

He's going to be a prodigy. I want to know what child's books he's reading, too. Not the same ones I read. Did you? Did you? I think so, at one point. You said something about there were graphs. Where the Red Fern Grows was the last one I read in fourth grade. Oh, that was sad.

Where the Red Fern Grows was one of the saddest but best books of all time. Dog Dies at the end. Spoiler, bro. It's at least 50 years old. That's a big Gary Paulson guy. I remember the Hiler, bro. That and Hatchet. I mean, it's at least 50 years old. That was big Gary Paulsen guy. Go Gary Paulsen. Hey, I remember the Hatchet movie.

We watched the Hatchet movie. Really? Yeah, I believe it was like- Hatchet, Brian's Winter, all good. Yeah, it was after you were supposed to read the book. We took the test and then we watched the movie. Yeah, I just watched the movie. Smart.

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The square off between him and Ken. What's Ken's last name? Jennings. Who's this Watson character you talked about? That's a computer. IBM Watson. It's a computer that just, like, and he's right. I thought it was a person this whole time. Derek Watson from Phoenix.

That makes so much sense on his little joke I didn't get about being faster on the button. Dude, I thought. Come on. Went right by me. You guys watch TV. The Watson commercials are all over the place. Yeah, I know, but I wasn't putting it in context. It was just Watson character.

He was a fucking supercomputer. That was a former champion. Me too, dude. Jim Watson. I was like, man, I watch that show all the time. I feel like I would have known about it. The guy from Arizona, right? That's getting to.

$13.3 million. I saw that Game of Thrones had 17.1 million people watching the final episode there. Would have ranked number 71 for the NFL season, by the way. Wow. For all you people that think Big Game of Thrones is the NFL, he's just coming out here shitting on it. I'm a big throner. I'm a big throner, and I was one

of those 17 easy-goers. Who's this Watson character? I mean, Ty asked that question, and I was like, Ty's a smart guy. I'm sure, honestly, I thought Ken's last name started with a J, so whenever you mentioned Watson, I was like, Ty's a smart guy. I'm sure, honestly, I thought Ken's last name started with a J. So whenever you mentioned Watson, I was like, I guess Ken's last name is Watson. And then he mentioned Ken in the answer, and I was like, I have no idea what just happened.

Well, that's what he said, because he was talking about wiping its database. He was like, they wiped his entire programming. Watson came too soon. Social media wasn't super popular when he was around. He was also referring to Watson as he. Oh. What are you saying, Diggs? No, no, no.

I'm just saying that's in your favor. Watson did have a male's voice. Ah, yeah, yeah. He was referring to Watson in the interview as he. I just want to let you know, I still have no idea who we're talking about.

I would like it to be known. It's a spinning ball with another spinning ring around it. That's Watson. If you brought up the paper clip from the Word document, I would have understood that. who we're talking about. I would like it to be known. It's a spinning ball with another spinning ring around it. That's Watson. If you brought up the paperclip from the Word document, I would have understood that. Now we're talking. It's an IBM super computer.

Modern day paperclip. I got it now. It's a big unit. And he's going to beat the supercomputer? He said he couldn't on the trigger. Oh, because the timing, the human. I didn't fully understand the lighting. By the way, we got a lot of inside intel there.

Yeah, we did. I would never be on Jeopardy. Maybe Will Fortune. I think I'd do well in there. But the inside intel there, that they get 30 minutes to practice. You think he's still taking that 30 minutes to practice? Yeah, probably. Because they always said, you know, I think Abraham Lincoln said it.

Nope. Somebody said it, though. If you give me an ax, five hours in a tree, I'm going to sharpen it for four hours. I'm going to sharpen that axe for four hours. Do you think he's still practicing? Hell yeah. When you were the best punter in the league, did you still warm up? You still practice?

I never warmed up, but I did practice. I did practice. Good thing I said practice. Yeah, you did a slash. You did a warm-up slash practice, which basically says the same thing. Yeah, the light thing was weird because he was like, it's a border around, and it looks like it's counting down, but then he said it's definitely not counting down at all.

Yeah, so there's no three, two, one. I think just light just fucking goes. So does the light just... It probably wraps all the way around, huh? Maybe it's just moving at all times and then it turns a color when fucking... So is it when Trebek stops talking that light turns on? It seems like it. I would assume so.

So it's somebody who is better... So that person has to be the only person that can beat James then. The person that turns on the light to go is exactly when Trebek is done. That person probably... Or James beats the light person, and it's just like, oh, well, you already fucking hit it. I don't know. I don't know how it could possibly work.

Well, it is, though. That's what stands the great champions apart. That Ken and Jennings was the same way. Other people just had no opportunity to ever ring in. Whether he knew it or not too, he was confident enough that if I don't know it, it'll come to me within the time. How many seconds

is it? It's quick. Yeah, but still it gives you a little bit of time. Six to eight maybe? Yeah, I think you can click it and still get a well, you know, I don't know that one. Or like at the last second, what is blah, blah, blah. Thank God. You're like just trusting your brain kind of like what I did with that speech last night

at the Big Brothers thing I was like yeah just go ahead and trust the brain to figure it out Pat really goes up to me he goes yeah 20-30 minutes I can do that right I'm like Pat you're gonna have no fucking issue with 20-30 minutes yeah and then I went up there did an hour shout out to Big Brothers Big Sisters I get into the full story here in a little bit.

You're going to enjoy it. The Big Brothers Big Sisters program in northeastern Indiana is doing incredible things. I was lucky to be a part of that. Jeopardy James seems like he's going to be winning forever, right? Yeah. I hope so. And whenever this is done, he's going to land some awesome gig. What are they going to have him do?

I don't know. Crunch numbers, man. Represent some major sports book or something. You know what I mean? He's going to get something. That Chase guy, the beast, man, Represent some major sports book or something. You know what I mean? He's going to get something. That Chase guy, the beast, man, that was the gig there. I mean, that guy's just sitting up on a pedestal, literally, just answering questions against people.

I would assume that would get boring for him, but there has to be a way that James could travel and tour with this, too. I mean, there's a way to really. Fuck, if Disney on ice can still travel, fucking James Holden. Jeopardy Jimmy should be able to. Disney, though, has got a lock on most individuals,

Donner. Is Jeopardy like, so I know it's like the NCAA where he can't finish or he can't get paid until he's done, but is he going to have

to purposely lose it sometime to get her money or will he get back or in the meantime be like, hey, don't lose because he's going to run out of money

at some point. I'd front him. If I was a money manager, I'd say, hey, here's $300,000. We'll talk in a couple of months. I know an agent who has already reached out to him looking to, like, hey, if you just want any help with anything, post in. Yeah, he reached out to me.

I told, whenever I made an announcement that we have a GOAT joining us, I got a text message that said, who is it? And I said, never going to guess it, told him the name. He's like, oh, I reached out to him. I already tried to rep him. I was like, I can imagine it's a feeding frenzy with that guy right now, as it should be, by the way. I mean, him saying that he's got a lot of options on the table, I mean, that is, I couldn't even fathom what that email is.

It's right there on his Twitter bio, by the way. If you've got any business, just go ahead and send it right here. You want to get me on a show, send it right here. And the fact that he checked it, saw it, frankie sent the email i mean that's it's incredible speaking of game shows and you mentioned it earlier because his wife was on it is who wants to be a millionaire still on the tv i think it is yeah it's on game show network too right yeah it still is were you just still doing it no it's uh i think it might it was chris harrison for a while it might be mer be Meredith Vieira still.

I don't know. No, I think Meredith Vieira's out. I forget. She's the old bitchy lady? Yeah, hers are on the Game Show Network sometimes. She's a hard ass. I wouldn't call her that, but she's a hard ass. For sure.

Yeah, she looked like she didn't play many games. No. Old bitchy lady. But do you remember that one guy that won a million on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Called his dad to tell him. And he flexed. He said, I'm going to phone a friend. And he's like, oh, you need help. He's like, no, I'm calling the old man. that one guy that won a million on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Called his dad to tell him. And he flexed. He said, I'm going to phone a friend. And he's like, oh, you need help. He's like, no, I'm calling the old man and tell him I just won a million. James does that on

Final Jeopardy. He'll go like, what is, bang with the final answer, and then he'll say, hi, is this somebody in parentheses? And they're like, how much did you wager? $52,000. And then they cut to him and he like smiles. I mean, that has to feel so good. I'd love it if we saw him at the World Series of Pok next year after his runs done or something like that i don't know if

he's a poker player is he i mean i don't know he's probably more like gambling he said he's poker friends but i assume he plays you live in vegas i would assume you're kind of connected i did i did see he follows only four people on twitter and one of them is a guy that like runs a poker room so maybe he does see analytical though you would think blackjack would be one that he would love to get into because 21 just like him by the way how about him getting banned from sports books yes that's incredible he's got to write a book obviously right yeah he has to write a book that's probably the cat the thing that catapults into everything else there's sort of analytics and poker though isn't there yeah yeah there is like percentages

of what you have but you have to be able to, like, it's very much a, it's a mental jousting game, which obviously he's very good at it. But I don't think, I think the blackjack, the analytics are much more prevalent. Yeah, there are other games that lend to that more. Yeah, because you actually get to see what everybody has and everything like that. Like blackjack, they turn over every card.

You basically see every single card that comes out. And then it's just all about being able to boom, boom, plus one, minus one, plus two, minus two, blah, blah, blah, that whole thing. I don't like getting banned because you're good. I mean, if he was cheating the rules somehow of these casinos or somehow in sports gambling, I understand it. That's crazy. They reserve the right to

refuse service to anybody. I understand that, but all he did is got lucky for years or whatever. He's a good gambler. Why do they ban him? I don't fully understand how casinos are allowed to do that or not. I don't either. I remember in Indiana when the casinos first started here and I was in the enforcement unit,

they would bring in all the best card counters in blackjack. Whenever a state first opens legislation for riverboat gambling or something, all the card counters come in in force. They flood every casino. They just freaking just hit them for... They're like gypsies coming in. Yeah, hundreds of thousands of dollars. They do it on purpose because the casino will catch on very quickly

and be like, because they're like, hey, we're fucking down in that pit like $800,000 right now. So they get all this surveillance on it, and then they freak out and they go down and they say, hey, sir, excuse me. You're welcome to play any other game in the casino but you're not allowed to play blackjack anymore you are banned and then they file a complaint and they the whole purpose of that is to make that state decide legislative wise are they going to allow card counting or not wow if they're going to make it illegal or if they're going to be able to ban you and all the

rules that apply and i would assume most states decide to ban card counting or not. Wow. If they're going to make it illegal or if they're going to be able to ban you and all the rules that apply to that. And I would assume most states decide to ban card counting. Yeah. Because they view that as a way of cheating. But is it? I don't know if it is. That's just the people that are going after Jeopardy! James for daily double hunting

and ruining the spirit of the game or whatever. Well, how is that? Just because he's better at the game than you are. Just like these card counters. Just because they're better at blackjack. When you're a card counter, you've mastered the game of blackjack. Practice, too. That's all it is.

It's a proven way to win. Why wouldn't you do that? Yeah, I don't know. So what they'll do, though, the combative, too, is they'll make their table limits so low that card counters won't want to even go to your casino. It's not worth it. Oh, see the low table limits.

That's what they do for him. They won't let him bet more than $10,000 on a certain bet. So that's what Indiana did. Indiana said, you're not allowed to forbid them from playing the game just because they're awesome at it. And they said, okay, we'll just lower our table limits and they won't even want to come here. All right, if they want to make any money,

they've got to be over 72 straight. See how good their counting is after 48 hours in the goddamn pit. It's like a bowling alley telling a guy, yeah, you roll 300 games, you can't bowl here. Yeah, but the bowling alley doesn't have to pay out of pocket to the person. It's a good point. It's a good point. Now that I think about it. I feel like instead of banning them, they should

hire him and be like, you're destroying us. Help us out. Well, that's what I always said about the people who are setting the lines. The people who are setting the lines, they have to get paid so much money from those casinos because if they leave, they can do whatever the fuck they want. But maybe they can't because of this situation where they got to get paid so much money from those casinos because if they leave, they can do whatever the fuck they want. But maybe they can't because of this situation where they got to get friends to go place bets, maybe.

I don't know. I'll be excited to see what old Jeopardy James does. What an intriguing human. He was. Naperville, Illinois. Where's that at? It's just like northwest suburbs of Chicago. Yep.

Are you anywhere near that? Like 10, 15 minutes. Same water you two were drinking. Yeah. You had the better half. Are you anywhere near that? Like 10-15 minutes Same water you two were drinking You're both rich as fuck now He just got up to the Zitos The Zitos The whole family of Zitos I had a dream last night

Whenever we got back from Fort Wayne Which you'll hear about At the end of the show. We recorded it earlier, and it's just really not working out. I just want to talk about it, but you'll hear it. I chugged some NyQuil for the first time in a while, and I really went to town. I just wanted to go to sleep.

It was late. I couldn't sleep. So I chugged some NyQuil, and boy, those dreams last night were fantastic. I mean, I am a good dreamer and I love my dreams a couple weeks ago I had a Sasquatch playing a guitar

to run a fire with me I mean that was a great conversation that's a good time yeah I called him the goat of hide and seek he respected it yeah there's a shirt

for sale literally right now how about it last night I was vice president of America oh the whole country I don't know how

I got in there, but I was holding a meeting with all the people. Who are the people? Cabinet. There it is. 14 of them. Yep, and I fired four people. First meeting.

Were you wearing a suit and stuff? Do you remember that? No, no, I had sleeveless. I had sleeveless, so it was awesome. I think that's why the meeting didn't go great, and that's why I had to fire four people. Who was the president? Which is also wild.

He's dead. I don't know. He just died, though. I know that. Oh, you took over. Oh, because the vice president has literally no power. Yeah, yeah. He died.

Oh, okay. That makes sense. So I got put in power. Got it. And I was just giving this- You named Zito to your cabinet, yeah. No, no. No, didn't do that in my dream.

No, in my dream- Secretary of Snacks. You do not deserve this. No, he's attacking me. I don't know why. Get him off you. It's probably because Will Smith is very, very good in the new Aladdin movie. He's not very good.

Speaking of a dream, Will Smith in that movie, I guess, is a dream role, people are saying. People are saying. Robin Williams crushed it. How are you going to follow up? Nobody knows. Hire Will Smith. That's what happens. Sounds like a good plan.

I think that movie's supposed to be incredible. Yeah, it's going to get crushed this weekend, though. It's a Disney movie. They already made the movie. It's a remake. Of course it's good. Everyone knows that. Oh, remakes are good. You already know what happened. Remakes are always good. No. It's more Disney movie. They already made the movie. It's a remake. Of course it's good. Everyone knows that. Oh, remakes are good.

You already know what happened. Remakes are always good. No. It's more pressure on you. Disney's not going to pump out a bad movie. It just doesn't happen. That's why he had to go and jump on their train. Oh.

Hey, guys. Help me out. Prop me up a little bit. Is that what he did? Yeah. They invited him, by the way. And they were honored when he said yes. What's coming out this weekend

that's going to crush it? Godzilla. I did not know Godzilla was coming out this weekend. King of Wands. It looks really good too. The preview is pretty awesome. That's in Japan, right? Well, what do you mean? Godzilla. Is the whole movie going to take place in Japan? He was created in Japan. Yes, the story, I believe,

was created in Japan. In the Sea of Japan? That'd be a good remix, by the way. That's what I'm saying. I think so. By the way, I think so. From nuclear testing? From nuclear testing, yes. From Jim Kong's missiles? Yes. How did I not know that? I would have put that in a verse for sure. God damn it. I need you well-versed people to give me a little bit

more insight. Yeah, more. I want to start PMI Music, man. That'd be a fun little business. I know. It'd be a lot of fun. Uncle Sam, if you're listening, I almost sent you a DM last night at about 1.30 when I couldn't sleep,

asking you if you could make beats, make songs, and then I need to pump out a song a week for PMI Music. Just give you guys this little area, this office next to us. Just lock them in there to see what comes out of it. Just lock them in there. Listen, it's not like Chernobyl. You're not going to... You're just getting locked in there and see what pops out of it.

It would be cool. It would be a good time. But that is investing in more shit. What type of music? Whatever. Anything. Anything that just comes out of it. What type of music? Whatever. Anything. Anything that just comes out of it. I think music now is just so, everything just kind of goes in with each other.

You know what I mean? Love Lil Nas X at that NHL game. He's everywhere. Love Tom Brady inviting him to the fucking opener. Tom Brady inviting Lil Nas X out there. TB knows what moves the needles these days. He's going to ride that into the ground, isn't he? Who? Yes.

Nas. Why wouldn't you? Lil Nas. I would. For sure. He's not to ride that into the ground, isn't he? Who? Yes. Nas. Why wouldn't you? I would. I would. He's not old yet. Not old. That song's a heater. And he's like a troll on Twitter.

Not troll, but he's an active smartass on Twitter. Oh, yeah. And he gets it. Did he have hits before Old Town Road? No. No. But he's going to have nothing but hits after. Oh, yeah.

We talked about this the other day. I do believe that the one-hit wonder is officially dead. I don't think it's possible anymore. I think once you get a good song out, your fans are going to love you for you so much. No matter what you put out next, it's going to be a heater regardless. No matter what. It's just the way fans work these days because you know what it is? It's a family.

It's no longer a fanhood. It's a family. And it's a famhood. It's a famhood. It's a family. And it's a famhood. It's a famhood. It's a famhood. It's a famhood. So they're going to support you and they're going to be like, listen, although not great, I mean, it's a little tough to stick up for you right now.

We'll be here, but we're expecting something good in the future. That's why I think the one-hit wonder will disappear because the one-hit wonder revolves around numbers. And I don't think anybody's numbers will ever drop once they establish a good famhood in my head. Totally agree. I don't know if it's will ever drop once they establish a good fam hood, in my head. Totally agree. I don't know if it's accurate. No, it's accurate. Time will tell. Time? Only time will tell.

Who was the last one-hit wonder? It was Billy Ray, and then Lil Nas secured him. I want to say Carly Rae Jepsen, maybe? That's what I was going to say. Call me maybe. She just had a song that came out recently that people are going crazy for. Really?

Yeah, and I don't think... Whenever I say heater, I mean doing well, which means she's probably headlined some festivals for it, which seems like a great life. I think you're probably right. I think Tub Thumpin'. I think Chumbawamba. That probably is the last major one-hit wonder.

Yeah, because they got knocked down, and they ain't never fucking get up again. Not a one-time. So for the last for this Wikipedia page, it's 2010. LaRouche's Bulletproof at All One Nation sale. What do you mean Bulletproof? LaRouche's. Yeah, LaRouche's.

R-O-U-X. Yeah, LaRouche's. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. And then Magic Rude. That's another one on there. Oh, yeah.

What's that one? Why you gotta be so rude? That's a good call. But. And then Magic Rude. That's another one on there. Oh, yeah. What's that one? Why you gotta be so rude? That's a good call. But I assume they're going to make another song. Yeah, that's almost too early to make a statement. That was 2014. Right. How far back do you go before you say,

well, I didn't do anything for this period of time? Well, Billy Ray Cyrus. How about the guy, Oh, baby, you, you got what I need. Biz Markie. Biz Markie. Biz Markie. Biz Markie lived off that one song for a very long time. He featured a lot of songs on here.

How about Silent Toe? Watch him whip and watch him nae nae. Watch me whip and watch me nae nae. These people were saying Little Fonzie, which they created Despacito, but that's only like two years ago. Yeah, that's, by the way, Despacito, one hit wonder. It was the Despacito, one hit wonder.

It was the greatest, almost greatest one hit wonder. That's incredible. I don't know if you can call it a one hit wonder either when it goes huge with Biebs on it. Well, it has four or five different remixes that are all big. That's a five hit, one hit wonder. What about Hozier, Take Me to Church? No, Hozier makes some good songs after that. Somebody that I used to know?

Bauer. Goatier? Anyways, we get it. Bauer, Harlem Shake. We get it. I think Lil Nas X is definitely going to be. He's good. I think he's going to blow up for a long time.

He gets it. He seems to really get it, and everybody seems to like him. I mean, Kim Kardashian made a video with her daughter for him. Tom Brady's inviting him over there to the fucking season opener. She even took time out of her maternity leave to make that video, too. I know. You're a big fan of that maternity leave. Best of these for her and her maternity leave. Absolutely.

Evan Fox made 19 straight NBA 3s the other day. Not terrible. 19 straight NBA 3s. From the corner, so it's only college 3s really, distance-wise. It's the shortest one. But you don't have the option for a backboard. SportsCenter tweeted out a video of Kawhi hitting 9 straight 3s and they were

like... With rebounds and him staying in the same spot. Just didn't move. Yeah. Foxy was rebounding for himself, jogging across the court. That was absolutely impeccable. Probably never happened again, to be honest. I'm glad it was on film, though. Man, I wish you would...

I mean, Foxy... That's incredible. Foxy gets in one of these celebrity basketball games. If he somehow breaks free for just a couple, don't let him get hot. Don't let him get hot. Don't let him get hot. Don't let that... I'm streaky, too. You know that.

Sometimes I can miss a lot, but when it's on, it's on. Yeah, but just go take the roof off the thing. After that happened, I was like taking a shit. He ran the bathroom. He was like, I know you're doing something,

but I need you to rip the video. And I'm 19. I was thinking about 20, so I missed 20. It happens, man. You got to stay focused on the task at hand. Just like James said, focus on each show, each meeting, like James said, focus on each show.

Each meeting. Each step. Each question. Each clue. That's what you got to do, Foxy. That's the next step, mentally. Next time. I'm going to remember that. Next time. 19 fucking threes. That's a lot, dude. It was a wild round.

I almost can't wrap my head around it. 19 fucking NBA threes. I got to 10, and I was pretty excited and then they just kept going in. Our office has, for those that don't know, has a half court basketball court in it. Pretty nice setup, actually. Very expensive hoop.

Very expensive hoop that we thought was getting donated. Yep. We could have built a whole field house. We were told it was getting donated. Yep. We could have built a whole field house. We were told it was getting donated, and then it showed up on the bill in the end, and it was like, oh, this is very interesting. I mean, I assume that you guys assumed I would not go through these numbers,

but I am going through it, and this is an interesting thing. But it's a beautiful setup. And Foxy works on his threes every single night. I really do. He really does. And he's gotten to a point where he's fucking dialed in right now the guy is a shooter i wouldn't mind sending him into like maybe uh what's that quarter over there in new york rucker park rucker park rucker park over there double rim can you do it with someone in front of you uh yeah not as well obviously but i could still do it. Should we buy those things the guys always have their hands up? Yeah, the practice guys where we hold them, like in the brooms.

I'll buy it right now. So actually what I do with the pillars is I act like that's a screen, so I come off it like the guy goes under the screen, and then you pull the three. So that's like a real in-game thing. Evan Bucket, Foxy. Zito can be on the side like Fat Joe. He's always at the record.

Lean back. Fat Zito. Lean back. That's fucked up one one joe no fat what you fat one snow is the other one but then uh by the way oh john snow is in rehab yeah get better get better no but hopefully it gets better this is good right going to rehab is a good step that is a admit a mission of guilt that is a hey i need to fix something here keep it going what is is is the fall from the top of the mountain that hard uh i just can't imagine how stressful that would be everyone's talking about it then not only that it's like okay this huge part of

my career is ending and who knows if what comes next is i'm ever going to be able to live up what i just previously did and i got exiled yeah exactly well and then on top of it save the fucking world and then got shit on. He should have been the king of the seven kingdoms. Well, and just everyone bitching about it. He's obviously seeing that, you know. I don't know. You work hard on that kind of stuff.

As a massive throner, I'd like to say tease and peace to Jon Snow. Can't wait for you to get out. Congratulations to you, by the way, going in there and getting healthy. Maybe we send you to the rehab that John Snow's at. It's like a... Food rehab. It's a top of the line. It's a luxury one.

It's a luxury one. Yeah, over there in Beverly Hills? No, it's in Connecticut. Oh, shit. I believe. I thought I saw that. Oh, the summer's good over there. Oh, yeah.

Have you ever been to a summer in Connecticut? No. You've heard. You've heard. I've heard great things, though. It is. Oh, man.

Great foliage. All right, last night, Foxy and I got a chance to go up to Fort Wayne, Indiana, and do some magical things for a organization that is truly helping the world. Quick little recap of that thing. And then Ty Schmidt's going to hit some of the best music we've ever played at the end of this thing. I'll let you guess right now what it's going to be. You're probably right.

To the conversation and now before a recap of an incredible trip to Fort Wayne for Fox Unite a reading from Zito thank you Pat Anthony Joshua is coming to the United States to take on the destroyer Andy Ruiz Jr. at Madison Square Garden at the New York City.

In New York City. Joshua's arguably the best heavyweight fighter in the world holding three of the four major heavyweight titles. He is 22 and 0 and he has won all but one of those fights by knockouts. He's 22 and 0

and he's won all but one of those fights. Period. By knockouts No Reeves 32 wins And 21 knockouts Is looking to take advantage Of his first ever World title fight

Okay Will Joshua defend Is His Or no It says is IBF I'm guessing that means His IBF

Oh yeah You're fixing Now you're helping them. Just saying, DAZN. Just saying. Will Joshua defend his IBF, WBO, and IBO world title, or will Ruiz capitalize on the biggest fight of his life? This Saturday, Madison Square Garden, New York City, on DAZN.

42 knockouts between the two heavyweights. Three titles on the line. Joshua, Ruiz, the biggest heavyweight fight in the history on the zone. 42 knockouts between the two heavyweights. Three titles on the line. Joshua Ruiz, the biggest heavyweight fight in the history of the world this Saturday on the zone from Madison Square Garden. Great read by you, man. Rank? I'm pretty sure you skipped an entire paragraph. But don't even worry about it, Zito.

Don't even worry about it. Zito. Don't even worry about it. Ladies and gentlemen. A recap. Just watch the fight. Two heavyweights are going to knock each other out. It's going to be incredible. There's three titles on the line, and DAZN puts on incredible fights.

It's in Madison Square Garden. The lights are bright there. Everything's going to be incredible. Shout out to DAZN. Watch out this Saturday. Also, shout out to Fort Wayne, Indiana, for being so hospitable to Foxy and I last night. Two nights ago, I got a chance to go to Fort Wayne for the Big Brothers Big Sisters Northeastern Indiana gourmet dinner.

Nice. 46th annual gourmet dinner. What was on the menu? It was a duck, actually. That's how you know it's gourmet. Like a duck larange? Yeah, there's this duck company here in Indiana.

Oh, really? Winona Lake. They just became a sponsor of the Colts. They donated the duck dinner. I don't think I've had duck in a while. Ever, maybe?

Pretty gamey. I mean, a little bit. A little bit. It was like a greasy chicken. Tastes pretty good. All these events that Foxy and I go to, there's not enough food.

You get such small portions. I would have like double duck. You know what I mean? Give me a double duck. But it was an incredible event. Let's go with previous speakers. Let's go with previous speakers. I was asked to speak this year.

They actually sent a private plane, which we'll get into in a second. Thought I was dead. Thought I was dead. Thought I was dead. There was no air conditioning on the plane. It was about 120 degrees. Oh, my God. And I guess we flew through a tornado. Yeah, through a window.

So whenever we landed in Fort Wayne, they flew a plane down to pick me up and Foxy up, and there was a group there. I guess they had a presenting sponsor of the event. They got a chance to fly on the plane with us up to Fort Wayne. So I get there. I accidentally took a nap right up until the time that the plane was supposed to take off, basically. I get there. I'm still half asleep.

And they're like, oh, they're waiting for you around the corner. I'm like, they? Is it Foxy? And I turn the corner. There's like eight people there. And I'm like, oh, my God. It's starting right now. So I start waking up a little bit.

The Kuhn family is who was with us. Indiana Physical Therapy. Great people. They brought me back to life almost. But there's a lady named Gisette who is maybe the CEO of Big Brothers Big Sisters. I think that's right. She was obviously panicked about the flight from Fort Wayne to pick us up. And the pilot was there.

He was like, on the way back, we'll go up a little higher so we miss all the things. I was like, what happened? And Gisette was like, that was a rough ride. And I was like, oh, no. I do not do well with that. So I asked the pilot. I'm like, yo, you got Dramamine?

I'm going to need Dramamine, especially if I'm supposed to go speak and all this stuff. He's like, I got you. We get on a plane, no Dramamine on a plane. No big deal. So we're packed in this plane. It was like an eight-seater, a little tighter though. It was a Citation. Not that that means anything to anybody out there that's

listening. And we get up in the air and Foxy and I are just dripping sweat. Legitimately bullets. Dripping sweat. Foxy and I are just dripping. And I have my face up against the vent thing, like a dog with a window almost. And's just nothing coming out so then we get up there and there's a it's a rocky ride it was 30 minutes beautiful plane it's very hot flew through a tornado so shout out to that pilot we landed we get to the airport there and um the people at the the hangar were like uh didn't think you guys were gonna make it through that i'm like what do you mean what do you mean? What do you mean? And they point back at the TV behind them. It's the Doppler radar. There's just

red circles everywhere. And it's like they have a you are here thing. We were right in the middle of like seven red things. And I was like, I felt like that to be honest. I want to let you know, I'm happy we made I gave like the pilot a fist bump or whatever. Six cops waiting for us. Nice.

You know, I've been off the vitamins so I didn't even have my vape pen on me. So that was the first time I've walked into an airport hangar like that where there's cops. And I was like, yo, what's up? Let's go talk. What's up? Let's go talk.

How's it going, boys? They're very nice. Everybody was incredible. Got a chance to get there, got over to the event. And it was at that point I realized who the previous speakers were. And it was a big deal. All of a sudden, I'm like, holy shit, this is a big deal. Last year, Terry Bradshaw.

How about that? Whoa. Terry Bradshaw, Fox Sports. Don't know if you know him. Country musician, too. Played quarterback for a little bit. Sing some songs. The real TB12.

Four-time Super Bowl. Yeah. Won a few games. Well, the real TB12, I think, has five or six. The first TB12. Well, I just wanted to say. I mean, if we're going to take shots at the guy, I'm from Pittsburgh. I'm a big Bradshaw fan. She's that original. Love how big of a lunatic. OG TB12. Well, I just wanted to say. I mean, if we're going to take shots at the guy, I'm from Pittsburgh. I'm a big Bradshaw fan.

She was at Original. Love how big of a lunatic. OG TB12. There it is. OG TB12. Fair. And they showed some clips of his speech. I guess he was a bit off the rails.

The guy sitting at our table, one of the head guys for Big Brothers Big Sisters, was like, Terry is a crazy man. I was like, that's kind of his thing, right? And he was like, well, it's no gimmick. It's real. He had the most singing, I guess kind of his thing, right? And he was like, well, it's no gimmick. It's real. He had them all singing, I guess, during his speech last year, just out of nowhere, just had them start singing, this whole thing.

And the plan was for me to speak for 30 minutes and then a Q&A afterwards. The year before Terry Bradshaw, Brett Favre. How about that? Wow. The gunslinger. Okay, Brett Favre is speaking at this event. So this Big Brothers Big Sisters event is pulling in some massive names, right? So Brett Favre, veteran move, by the way.

Veteran fucking move. Because the way the night played out is you shake hands with the VIPs, a lot of kisses and babies and hugs and kisses and pictures. It was just awesome. It was a very well set up thing, but there's a lot of people coming through. kisses and pictures. And it was just awesome. It was a very well set up thing, but there's a lot of people coming through. You take pictures and then you go right inside for the, the entire, um, uh, run by dinner run of show. It's like a run of show. There's a lot of videos. There's a lot of, and the way these always go is they try to pull at the heartstrings, right? So people will invest in and donate and stuff like that. So way these always work and i don't get asked to

speak at a lot of these things so i was honored to do so but i've done a couple of them it's all the same it's like heart story heartwarming story uh like crazy situation that happened to somebody then they ask for a donation which has happened and then there's a like um uh what's that called when the person who's a part of it goes up and speaks? There was a 15-year-old kid named Carson who was a little brother. And he goes up and speaks, and he reads this letter that he wrote. His mom died a couple years ago. His dad's in prison.

He picked up a big brother. His name was Terry. They were an incredible pair. They read a letter that they wrote to each other, basically, for like 20 minutes. Just like like I'm crying in this thing. And then I'm up directly after that. So then it's like, all right, dance monkey. Here's comedy. Yeah, exactly. So I'm crying. I'm like crying listening to the story. It's all incredible. The big brothers, big sisters program does very, very cool things. I,

I don't think I knew enough about it before going into last night, but especially that one up in Fort Wayne. It's awesome. So I guess Brett Favre was in the same position I was in, and he goes up there, supposed to speak for 30 minutes, and then Q&A afterwards. Brett Favre gets up there and goes, well, I don't know if I can beat that, so I'll just take some questions.

Just a fucking veteran move, bro. They set a plane to Mississippi to pick him up. They fly him up there. He's supposed to give a 30-minute speech, like a motivational speech, inspiring speech. And he goes, hey, man, I don't know if I can top that, so I'll just take some questions. And everybody at the Big Brothers Big Sisters thing was like, Brett Favre just wasn't prepared. I mean, the questions were good. It was a good answer, but he just wasn't prepared at all.

And in my head, I i was like what a veteran but whenever i was in that position that brett farve was in after those two read their stories and i'm like crying yeah i almost went up there and was just like i have no idea how i'm supposed to do it so i'll just take some questions but i didn't uh i went up there it was supposed to stop talk for 30 minutes talk for an hour just kind of let it loose. I didn't pee beforehand because I couldn't get up in the middle of the little brother, big brother speech because it was literally so intriguing to me.

So I went up there having to pee. And then everybody knows that my bladder's an active one. And if you've ever been to one of my shows, you can kind of tell when it's wrapping up because my legs start dancing a little bit. And that's exactly what happened for this. I went for an hour, talked about the mentors in my life, Tim McAfee, and how a big brother isn't somebody

that just spends time with somebody for the first time. It's somebody who can really shape and realign somebody's drive and focus and optimism and hope in life, which is what the guy before us did with the 15-year-old Carson who had lost his mom. He basically realigned his entire life, which is what the guy before us did with the 15-year-old Carson who had lost his mom. He basically realigned his entire life, which is what my dad did. And then when I got to the NFL, Vinatieri did for me. So I just told like an hour worth of stories and had an absolute blast.

It was incredible. It was really good. Foxy and I had a blast. I almost pissed my pants. And I'm so, so thankful for the Big Brothers Big Sisters. I mean, I feel like you talk in a lot more of these things than I do, to be honest. On a lower scale, obviously. But yeah, they always screw you with the heartfelt moments right before the comedy.

But at least... No, no, it's real, though. It is real. Every cancer fundraiser, whatever, I've always done, it's a slideshow of everyone who's passed, and people are crying, and they're like, no, no, no, for some comedy, here's Todd McCullough. And you're like, ah. But that's a tough spot.

It sounds like, though, you handled it great. Well, I'm sitting there, like, actual tear dropping from my face, right? Like, an actual tear dropping from my face. I'm like, this is beautiful, man. This is all I am. By the way, I think I'm getting more emotional as I get older. Things are starting to hit me. Uh-oh.

It happens. Me, for sure. Uh-oh. It happens. Me, for sure. I hate it. It happens. I absolutely hate it. I used to be able to just watch that thing and not feel anything. You know what I mean? I used to just watch that and be like, ah, okay, cool, man.

But now I'm starting to really start to feel stuff. Hey, so Pat's all choked up. Everyone's choked up. And he goes up there. And before all this, Pizza Hut has a huge affiliation with Big Brothers Big Sisters so Pat walks up there and had to talk about Pizza Hut and all they were giving credit to was the pizza

so Pat goes up there and goes guys you're not giving the wings and he goes in for like 3, 4, 5 minutes about Pizza Hut I had to reset the night you know what I mean I had to reset so I just went after Pizza Hut for three minutes. That's so funny.

Honestly, though. Is that maybe a new sponsorship? Fort Wayne. I don't know if we're going to get the North Carolina. They're going to be so spoiled, though, because obviously they go for big-time celebrity. Not very many big-time celebrities can put it on like you do. It's going to be a lot of- You're supposed to do 32 an hour.

That's just the most classic you think of all luck was before uh brett farve wow chuck pagano was before that tony dungy's been up there i mean it's like a massive the the wall of fame there was pretty huge how about afterwards when they came up to you pat what did you was there any like stories that touched your heart there i mean after you're done speaking and meeting people and saying hey my i've been a big brother for a lot of years or a kid who's been mentored by somebody well afterwards we got out of it because it was over they gave away a car yeah they gave away a car wait a minute i completely forgot about that yeah so after i speak they i i do like a thank you so much for having me this has been an honor or whatever guy comes up pretty good pop

from the crowd at the end by the way spoke for an hour pretty good pop it's like a three hour four hour night at the end if you can get him to pop a comes up. Pretty good pop from the crowd at the end, by the way. Spoke for an hour. Pretty good pop. It's like a three-hour, four-hour night at the end. If you can get him to pop a little bit, that's good news. The guy comes up, and he's the one who told me the story about Brett Favre just bailing it in earlier or whatever. So I think he was happy with what I did. Very thankful for him. And he goes, all right, time to give away a car. And I was like, we're giving away a car?

Like, was I told this? I don't know if I was. And they're like, yep, that car right over there. Well, it's's not that car over there but it's one it looks like that one over there and they draw drew five names out of like a bingo thing and those five people come up on stage there's a thousand people there that could have won this car yeah a thousand people that could have won this car they drive draw five names and then it was like elimination last one standing wins the car and i don't think the people knew that they were winning a car because whenever their name was drawn it was just like a nice slow walk up to the thing it was nothing there's a round of applause for him but i say it wasn't like a come

on down like yeah it was a fucking brand new 2019 car and nobody even nobody even like yeah not a big deal guy wins the car though no reaction and they also gave the five contestants opportunities to outbid each other. Be like, hey, I want your ticket. You get out of here for $500 or something. Oh, really? And none of them did anything. None of them did anything.

It was MSRP was $26,000 something. We'll take it. So you, as a person up there on that stage, $500 a ticket, by the way, for this event. 950 people there. Yeah. So you start doing a math. So anyone could go, though though you just had to buy a ticket yeah it wasn't like invite only or anything no it was five hundred dollars a ticket i guess they were getting people that were buying a bunch of tickets day of too so they had to add extra tables in the back so which

is by the way very classic uh i guess those were my fans just day of like oh fuck yeah let's get in there very thankful to everybody that came it's an incredible event but nobody was trying to bid anybody like hey i'll give you a hundred bucks here but not even a hundred bucks like nobody was saying anything i'm like yo bid for just say you'll give him a thousand bucks later sell that car dude just get the car sell the car now we're winning and nobody did anything it was just a gentleman's game ball in hand see you later guy wins a car nobody says anything round of applause see you gentleman's game, ball in hand. See you later. Guy wins a car. Nobody says anything.

Round of applause. See you later. It was the most insane event I've ever been to in my entire life. Most insane event. Just giving away a car, raising a shit ton of money, getting a chance to speak. It was really cool. Were they on mics too, like the winners? No, the winners.

So I had a mic that was on my chest here. And I thought it was just for the camera. It was actually through the whole pa system as well so there was a podium with two microphones here which there was different sizes of people talking so that became quite a quite a situation but there was two uh podium mics there and then i had one on my chest and i thought it was just for the camera for the recording so i didn't know i could have walked i could have have walked around. I'm a walker, too. I'm a stroller. I just stood very calmly at the podium,

which is a wild move for me. Very bright lights. Couldn't see anything. Tried not to squint. Didn't want to look high. It was a lot of fun, though. Are you mad at the pilots for not telling you? Because they definitely saw what they were going into.

Or did you want to know or not want to know? I don't think... I don't know. Whenever I was told that it was very rough air, I just assumed, like, oh, it's just a little turbulence. Then when we landed in the people that were at the hangar were like, can't believe you guys got through that. That's the first time I've ever experienced that before.

And the fact that there was no air conditioning, that was kind of a wild scene. It was a wild move, 2019. It was a wild scene. But I'm happy the guy got the fucking plane on the ground. And then the flight home was a smooth sailing. Very good flight home. It was smooth sailing. That turbulence on the way there, though, we hit something so hard. Pat.

I hit my head off the roof. Had a concussion, basically. I don't wear a seatbelt. Everybody knows that. I don't wear a seatbelt. It's just one of those things. And it got me yesterday. It got me.

It absolutely got me. I hit my head off the roof. That's a hell of a bump. That's the first time that's ever happened to me. And I don't strap up ever. So that was the first time that's ever happened to me and I don't strap up ever. So that was the first time that ever happened to me and my hair kind of got messed up

and it was an interesting situation. But I did, I put the seatbelt on immediately after that, by the way. I was like, all right, well,

I guess we're going to war here with old mother nature. How big of a leap was that? Probably like two feet of a... I mean, it was one of the, I had to like turn my head. Like,

I mean, it hit my head and then my ear hit. I mean, I was up there. You know what I mean? I hit. I was up there. Was the guy talking to you over the PA at all during that turbulence? No, no.

He was just fighting a storm. I think he was up there in war. There was another guy who was the ex-president of the Big Brothers Big Sisters. Term limit, his came up. He got to speak up there. He mentioned it a couple times. I don't know if there was a beef from him or not, but he did a lot of great work for Big Brothers Big Sisters. He was sitting in the front. He a headset on only one pilot and i guess he was hearing things in the headset that he said he like took the headset off he's

like i don't want to hear this i'm not a pilot i'm not supposed to hear this he told you that after the fact yeah when we landed he was like i was on the headset hearing some things i didn't want to hear i took them off i was like oh i'm fucking happy i didn't hear that i was just hitting my head off the back right back there. It was a really cool thing. And a ton of money was raised for them. I think people should look into Big Brothers, Big Sisters more, especially after last night. Just the stories of how these kids who come from, I mean, everybody has a story, right? Everybody has a story right everybody has a story but these kids come from these situations where? It's almost like there's no hope right the future is one that is almost guaranteed to be a shitty one like no matter what they do

And then you just have somebody who just comes and volunteers a little bit of time And just like chats with them, and I kind of refocus is their entire life and hangs out with them It's just it's really cool What a little positivity can do somebody and I think last night was a picture of that. I enjoyed the hell of it even though I almost fucking died

on the way up. Couldn't swear. Couldn't swear the whole speech. Oh yeah, I never thought about that. Couldn't swear. Well, the way you were bouncing around

it was hilarious. Yeah, I called myself a donkey like three times instead of a jackass. Donkey, mofo. Mofo. I sounded like Chuck Pagano

as soon as i said it and then um you did a couple like shoots yeah i did a couple shoots because i met all the kids that were going to be in attendance before the show so then as i'm meeting them they're just like these precious little things i'm like how's it going and then they're the big brother of the person's with them's like i'm a huge fan man i can't wait to hear you talk and i'm like uh it's gonna be a little different. It was cool. Very thankful they had me.

Thank you so much to Big Brothers Big Sisters, Northeastern Indiana. If you get some time, go ahead and donate it. It doesn't have to be cash, by the way. It just has to be your time. Just show up is what the one guy said. Just show up. Zito, you should think about being a big brother to somebody.

Or maybe get your own big brother. I think Zito actually would be a good big brother. Yeah, for sure. I'm a good father figure. Or brother figure. There it is. And this segment's over. Thank you. Thank you.