The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 079 - Was Jeopardy James' Loss My Fault? He Tells Us

Episode Date: June 6, 2019

On today's show, Pat prepares something to honor the Greatest Generation as we celebrate the 75th anniversary of D-Day and the men that helped us continue to live in freedom in the greatest country on the planet. Pat is also starting to get the NFL itch again as the guys discuss what the chances are that Gronk is going to come out of retirement to play for the Patriots next year, discuss the possibility of the NFL going to an 18 game season, while Pat has different ideas in order to keep the players and owners both happy, and he discusses which job he would prefer: Executive Director of the NFL Players Association or Commissioner of the NFL. Later, friend of the show, arguably the most dominant player in the history of game shows, certified genius, and America's sweetheart, Jeopardy! James Holzhauer, joins the show again. He and Pat discuss whether or not being on the show last week brought upon the McAfee curse and ended his run, what's next for James and what different opportunities have come up since his Jeopardy! run ended, his overall thoughts on the whole experience, and what some of his most fond memories of his run were (35:52-55:37). The guys also discuss Aaron Rodgers being chug shamed and dive back into a conversation about the chug as a method of bringing people together, what some of their favorite buffets are, and the guys discuss the NBA Finals and try to decide if Kawhi Leonard is going to stay in Toronto or test the waters of free agency elsewhere. It's a fun one, come and laugh with us, cheers.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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75 years ago, a large group of heroic men hopped off boats and planes and landed in the waters off the coast of a beach in normandy france charging the beach all the while looking like sitting ducks in the water for the opposition to rain down bullets in an attempt to take their souls and continue to heist freedom from the rest of the world these men knew their fatality was very much an option when they boarded the boats and planes. They very much knew that the family they had left back at home might never see them again. They knew the world we currently know

was nowhere near an option if they didn't grab their guns and go and do something about it. These men swam directly in the face of evil and went on to save our world in the process. D-Day is a special day because it represents the peak in humanity, choosing to potentially sacrifice it all while battling the absolute worst in humanity. Take a moment today to think about what the beaches of Normandy truly represent. Just 75 years ago, they were a legit sandy line that was drawn between good and evil

and good fucking one goddamn right huge thanks to the badasses who have served are serving and will serve in the military in the future you're the absolute greatest i don't think happy d-day is something that should be think happy d-day is something that should be said but d-day is something we should remember as the greatest group of humans willing to sacrifice it all and go ahead and save the world it's a pretty fucking cool thing man very lucky that we were on the right side of that you're not the wrong side of that hindsight is always 50 50 cam newton said that and to honest, those beaches in Normandy were a moment in time that should never be forgotten, that should never be underappreciated,

because the world that we live in, although not perfect, we do not live in a perfect world, we do not live in a perfect country. There's a lot of things and flaws that happen all around the world including at home here but i'll tell you what that little normandy beach storm started something that really saved the world from fucking terrible humans doing terrible things to a lot of humans d-day is upon us let's never forget it but today we got a fucking heater for you that is right june 6 2019 will be a day that will be remembered for a podcast that had a conversation with Jeopardy! James Holzhauer comes back on the show. Chatted with him for about 30 minutes about the disappointing loss on Monday in Jeopardy!

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June 6, 2019. Some NFL news here in the middle of June, which is fantastic. The Patriots and everybody seems to believe, including this guy's agent, that Rob Gronkowski will be back in the NFL next year. Gronkowski has come out, though, and said,

not likely. Everybody else is like, he's going to be back. I'm excited to see what happens with Gronk. Gronk and his team put out a statement while they were retiring. Well, the first time he was going to retire, after it came out that they were thinking about trading him to Detroit, Detroit didn't deserve that.

Detroit didn't deserve that. His agent and his team put out that Gronk is contemplating pursuing a lucrative acting career and retiring from the game of football. So they put their spin zone before it, like, hey, he's thinking about retiring, and this is what he wants to get into. Plays another year, wins a Super Bowl. We ain't going nowhere. Well, it's like, see, there's another little beat there.

Oh, I forget about that. We ain't going nowhere. We ain't going nowhere. We ain't going nowhere. I get it now. We ain't going nowhere. Oh, shit. Anyways. Hey, time to start some more, Pat.

Selfie videos with Tom Brady. They win the Super Bowl. Looks like he's enjoying football again. He has fun. Wins, obviously has a gigantic catch in the Super Bowl too, down there by the goal line. Kind of retires, sails off into the sunset, goes on a party bender, celebrating his incredible career, which he should have because he played football exactly how Gronkowski wanted to play football. He took care of his family. He had a good a good time he won didn't have many off the field problems he's good football in my eyes hall of famer for sure completely changed the way football was played whenever he was playing football he decides to retire and now

everybody's speculating he's going to come back and in my eyes as somebody who retired early after pro bowl um it's one of those things where that decision isn't just made overnight. That isn't a decision that he just wakes up and like, oh, hey, bro, I'm retiring. I don't think that's how Gronk sounds or talks, but I assume that is the stereotypical thought of

how Gronk would sound. I think this was very much a meticulated conversation he had with his team and his people, and I think this is something he's really enjoyed. And I bet you he's sick of his back getting beat up. And I think he's got a lot of money and probably a lot of opportunities because of how big Gronk is in the name and as a human. I don't think there's a chance Gronk comes back and plays football this year.

I don't think he plays football ever again. I think it's just funny and might be a little telling. I think the Patriots might just be putting this out in the air because the two dudes who they signed to replace Gronk, Ben Watson, got suspended for PEDs, and then they just cut Austin Saveri and Jenkins, so they really don't have a tight end right now. So I think the Patriots are just kind of putting it out there in the air

to see if it stirs something. There is no problem. Hey, work for Dallas. We have a retired tight end that's going to come back. That is funny to think about, though, that in their head, they're like, all right, this guy's out four games. Fucking hell, he's supposed to be the super religious guy. How's he getting to that?

By the way, I read his comment. He took stuff whenever he was retired, didn't know he was going to come back. Pop took the test while he was retired. Interesting that, I don't know, it's just an interesting situation. Because if I'm retired, I'm literally going to tell you. I think it actually happened. As soon as I made my announcement, it made some news. I got actually a direct contact reach out from the NFL testing.

They were like, are you really retiring? I was like, yeah. They were like, it's on Comedy Central. Good luck with everything. Thank you. And they took me out of the testing thing, right? So Watson, whenever he said he was retired, then they tested him. That's interesting because

for me, they actually reached out to me and were like, are you retired? Yeah, we'll take you off the list. They must not have done that for Watson. Or do you think he was like, I think so, but I'm not sure. And they're like, well, we're going to leave you in. I don't know. It's interesting though. It is very interesting to think about it all. And the Patriots signed him knowing he was going to have that four-game suspension, I think so, but I'm not sure. And they're like, well, we're going to leave you in. I don't know. It's interesting, though. It is very interesting to think about it all. And the Patriots signed him knowing he was going to have that four-game suspension, I'd assume, right?

You would think. I would assume that he mentioned it. Teams know everything, right? Well, teams seem to know everything. Especially them. Benjamin Watson is supposed to be a guy who's very nice, and everything about him is like he's supposed to be. Been around a long time.

Professional. Yeah, so I would assume he would tell them, like, hey, there's a chance that if I do come back, I'm getting suspended. Not a big deal, by the way. Still got 12 games with him. Yeah. That's okay. But it is not a bad theory

to think that the Patriots are just, like, sending out a bird call basically to Gronk. Like, hey, you're pretty fucked right now. Like, hey, maybe a little bit more out of you.

Get you out of a boat for four weeks, maybe. I think they're still going to be okay, but, you know, obviously Gronk would help. They're going to be so good. I often wonder how the other wide receivers feel about not getting invited

to Tom Brady's backyard. I would feel very, very left out. Like Dorsett had an incredible run there in the playoffs. We're friends. I'd say we're friendly. We never hung out, but we were on the same team together for a while. We talked for a while. We're friends. I'd say we're friendly. We never hung out, but we were on the same team together for a while. We talked for a while. We're friends.

Had an incredible run. I was so happy for him in the playoffs and Super Bowl, win a Super Bowl. And then I'm watching these training videos, and it's like, it's Julian Edelman, Jules, and Kill Harry, and Tom Brady. And I'm like, Phil, like, hey, get your fucking ass to that backyard, Phil. I want to send him a DM. Like, hey, Dorsett, run your little fucking 4-2 ass right over to Tom Brady's back fucking yard.

That is interesting to hear who gets invited, who doesn't. Brady, he didn't get invited because he was a first-rounder and Brady was a sixth. He's like, fuck that guy. He was really a fourth-rounder. He should have been a fourth-rounder. Do you think maybe, because there's never ever a situation where Tom's like, hey, do you want to come work out? He's like, no, I got this thing going

on down in Miami. I'm going to work out with my trainer. Never in a million years. If you're a starting quarterback and you're a wide receiver, wide receivers are always, always politicking for more balls. Always. I mean, it's just the way it goes. Oh, can I get you this? Can I get you that?

Can I do that? If there's a chance to do something with a quarterback that you could potentially get your hands on the ball a lot more, people are going to sign up for that 10 times out of 10. 10 out of 10 i'm impressed by the way tom brady though is just continuing to just build and build he's a social media monster now he's fucking just crushing everything he's got that left knee sleeve that should make some people a little worried a little hesitant and he said i treat my first like my last and my last like my first is a caption to his thing so everybody's like wait this is his last like my first as a caption to his thing. So everybody's like, wait,

this is his last. This is his last. Is this his last go? I have no idea. Greatest quarterback of all time. I hope it's his last go. Just for the sake of the NFL? Yeah, for everyone. For all other 31 fan bases. They are so fucking good, man. What if these come out

and shit the bed? What if it's like a 1-15 year with Tom Brady behind at quarterback? That would be awesome. I would be cool with them winning the next Super Bowl if Tom then came out the next season and had a 1-15 season instead of riding off into the sun. I would rather them win a Super Bowl and then him go 1-15 rather than them go to the AFC Championship and then him go 1 and 15 rather than

them go to like the afc championship and then he's done or something well i don't think he would be done if they go if they have a bad season which i wanted to make sure everybody's listening in no way am i thinking the patriots are gonna have a bad season it's just not gonna happen i think there's gonna be a lot of other great teams i think the indianapolis colts are gonna have an incredible season i'm excited to see if they can go up against New England and get a big win there. Just re-signed Rigoberto Sanchez to a new deal. Congrats to him on getting the bag. Very happy for him, man.

They signed Jeff Locke to take my spot. They brought him in as an undrafted guy, and all he did was work his ass off and punk Locke out of a fucking job. I like Rigoberto Sanchez a lot. I'm happy for him. But I just, I mean, there's a lot of teams that could be really good. The Pittsburgh Steelers have this eerie

silence about them right now. Nobody's really talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers because all their drama is gone. But they have a young, hungry team that seems to like each other. They seem to like each other. And in the world of football, liking each other goes a long, long, long way. And the Steelers are a winning organization. But they could go to complete shit, other goes a long, long, long way.

And the Steelers are a winning organization. But they could go to complete shit, too. I mean, everything could happen there. The Dolphins. Dolphins are Dolphins. Buffalo Bills are the Buffalo Bills. The Jets might be a great football team. Adam Gase running general manager and head coach over there.

But other than that, it seems like it's going to be the Patriots and Colts in AFC. Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, they're pretty good. They're going to regress. And your Cleveland Browns. Oh, and the Brownies. I completely forgot about my Cleveland Browns. They look really good, too, by the way. Odell's running great routes right now.

A little tuttle doing right down the seam there. Baker Mayfield's going to be a magician this year. I'm excited. We interrupt this incredible conversation about foosball in June to tell you that this Father's Day, Tommy John is reminding you that their quick draw fly saves guys

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Like it hit me two days ago. I just put out a tweet. I miss football. Like when I, right before I sent that, I was like, this is how many days it's, this is the mark. This is the point in time after the season that I officially like can't go any longer so in the NFL there's like a rookie wall you

hit week 11 or something like that's like week 11 to like week 14 you're just like you just hit a wall that's what we're at right now as fans like I am at the point where I'm like okay it's within reach training camp is within reach but there's nothing really near forward or back when it comes to football.

The only thing we can talk about is speculative stories, just like Phil Simms coming out and saying that he thinks the NFL players would gladly accept an 18-game schedule this upcoming year, which is an interesting statement to make as a guy who's been out of the league for 45 years. I think Phil Simms does good on tv uh i think all that stuff but i think he's very off here i've always said this when it comes to the number of games thing for the nfl which is always going to be a topic of discussion because there's so much money on the line both tv wise stadium revenue you're talking

about everything there is so much money on the line for adding games because you're adding a concert. You're adding a whole other concert for the band to perform at. And it's not just a concert that's live in person in front of 70,000 people sold out guaranteed for sure. It's also being streamed to millions of people paying millions of dollars for this whole thing. I mean, it is a massive financial decision to add a game or lose a game.

I've always said this. Let's meet in the middle. Let's make it 17 games massive financial decision to add a game or lose a game. I've always said this, make it, let's meet in the middle. Let's make it 17 games. Let's add a bi-week. So it is officially 19 weeks. So it's two bi-weeks, 17 games, get rid of a preseason game or two so that you have like two real preseason games. That third preseason game, treat it like it's the AAFL, treat it like it's the XFL. It's just tryout guys, bubble guys anyways. Give them that game, but make sure fans know that this is going to be basically a fucking scrimmage between players that aren't going to make this team or special teamers.

Add a bye week. Have 17 games, and let's just fucking keep it moving going forward. Let's in proportion add to the salary of everybody so you literally take no money out of anybody's pocket for another performance. them for the bye week as well and just keep it moving then we add an extra game it's not 18 which is what the nfl wants it doesn't stay at 16 which is what the players want but it's a nice win-win for everybody as fans we get an extra game we get an extra week of football two extra weeks of football we get an extra opportunity to watch our team blow it or win it.

And I think it makes everything much different whenever it comes to when people start trying or not trying and drafting and all that shit. It might change the game of football a bit, too, if you're adding extra weeks because people can't run as well at the end of the season. So it might be changing rules. It might be doing a lot of things. But it's a lot more money to be made, and I think it's the right move. I offered you this position. You can take DeMaurice Smith's position or Goodell's. Which way are you going right now?

Pat, you're handpicked. You're going to succeed one of these two. Goodell. You'll do Goodell? I'd rather be Goodell than DeMaurice Smith, mostly because of this. At the end, Goodell is the one that's in charge. I think there should be somebody much better than DeMaurice Smith, but if you're giving me the head of the NFL Players Association

or the head of the NFL, one gets paid $40 million a year, one gets paid like $5 million a year, which is still outlandish that that happens. But I would much rather be Goodell. You couldn't, though, because you'd have the player mentality and taking care of your boys, and the billionaire boys club is like, hey, we need some more hay in the barn. But, bro, I honestly think it's a business, man.

And for a business, like, hey, sometimes you've got to scratch somebody else's back. Too far it's been like we're at odds, we're at odds. Like everything's a war. Like, oh, you want to up the THC level? Okay, well, we're going to need to have Roger Goodell make every single decision without any conversation it's like well is that really what we have to do can we not just do this and then do

this have a little good faith in each other that we need each other here we're all making too much money let's just keep it moving forward the gate the league's the best league on earth nobody's gonna leave us our diehard fans no matter what happens they're gonna watch people are gonna buy merch the game is gonna hold up for itself no matter what happens, they're going to watch. People are going to buy merch. The game is going to hold up for itself no matter what. Let's just get into a good business relationship here so that everybody's happy. Everybody's moving forward. Yes, some people are going to get fucked.

Some people are going to get overpaid. But in the end, if we're doing business together, I think that's how it should be. Honestly, I think that's how it should be. And I've said that on numerous occasions in NFLPA meetings. Like, hey, do we ever just do business? It feels like everything you guys are talking about is like, we're going to war, we're going to war.

It's like, do you tell them that when we're going in to meet with them? Because if I'm going in to meet with Zito about Zito's contract, and Zito literally is telling everybody before coming in to me, like, I'm about to go to war with Pat. Like, how the fuck do you think I'm going to act?

Everything is just like oh are we gonna are we keeping score here is this war because if that's the case i am gonna beat you that that is just the way it goes and i think that has been lost over the last decade or so probably because there's so much money on the line and there's a lot of greed that gets involved but man it would be cool to be able to have the nfl and nflpa be able to like actually chat like hey man like weed is not that big of a deal it's a lot better than the painkillers that we've been getting can we just take that off and uh let's figure out something we can give you on the back side maybe another

hour of practice like in in off season like let's figure something out here so we can make a deal or you can just give it up to us by the way good faith just being good people and let's just move forward it's just that has seemed to be lost because didn't roger goodell put a number that he wanted to make he put a number on he said like i want to i want to make this amount of money like a bottom line he said i want to make this for you guys and that has kind of shaped every decision he's made like everything is for the dollar everything is for the dollar this this this this this is all for the money. See, if I was the union, I think I'd push harder for... Players Association. Players Association.

Excuse me. I would push harder for the guaranteed money. And I would say, we'll play your 18 games, but you guarantee every single contract these guys sign. 18 games will not happen. 18 games will not happen. 17 with another bye week, I think is very... But would you do it if every contract was guaranteed?

I just don't think guys bodies would be able to like I think it's just a it's a far-fetched conversation just because whenever you get the playoffs anyways guys are running on fucking fumes yeah busted everything you know what I mean nothing left I just I just don't think it's a I don't think it's good for the game

either I don't think it's good for the product of football which is what you should really care about in the end anyways. If you're really worrying about business, you should worry about the quality of the product on the field. I don't think 18 will ever happen. 17 with another bye week, though, seems like the perfect answer, and I honestly hope that that's what it ends up being. Everybody will get more money.

Everybody gets more money. Everybody gets more money, get another bye week too. I mean, it's just like, it's really cool. I think that would be a good sign. As a fan, we're cool with two bye weeks, too. I love a good bye week because then you get to watch every other game and don't have to worry about your own team and what's going on with that that day.

I love the fucking bye week. Mathematically, though, how do you give each team two bye weeks by just adding one more week to the schedule? No, you add two weeks. You add another game, but it's another bye week as well. So it would be a 19-week season. Oh, but you would play 17 games. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, so they would have to – obviously, those schedule makers are insane too. Oh, yeah. They could do it though. My last year as a Colt, we – my last year in the league, we went to training camp early

because we were in a Hall of Fame game. We were in London. We played on Thanksgiving, Christmas, and something else it was the worst fucking it was the worst schedule i looking at it i was just going for it i'm like oh we're literally every single holiday which is awesome by the way that means prime time we gotta travel to london and we get an extra 10 days of training camp this is awesome can't wait let's fucking go to work you get training camp so i was looking at the i was looking at the schedule for training camps this year there's teams like starting like middle of July.

When did that fucking start? Don't you always get extra time if you have a new rookie head coach? If you have a rookie head coach, you get extra time, both the OTAs and the training camps. I feel like that's early. In my head, too, by the way, the rookies get an extra week, too. You get an extra week with the rookies before the vets get there.

I don't know how much longer you want them there. I mean, this is very much a player's view, but I mean, how long do you want me staying at Anderson University? Is that going to make me a better football player? I do enjoy, and I've come around on this. I was very against it there for a while when I saw a bunch of other teams

that are having their training camps at home and people are sleeping at their houses and shit. There is something to be said about going to a place, the camaraderie that gets built up whenever you're away from your family, you're away from your kids, you're away from everything. You're just in it together and you're living in these shitty ass dorms and you're going to public bathrooms and you're eating the same food every day and you're doing this and you're doing that and you're working out together.

There is something to be said about forming a bond that can't be formed in the in the comforts of your own home so i don't mind it that much the whole travel and get away thing i was very against it until an older teammate of mine who had like four kids was like i love it he's like man i get three weeks away from my kids and i get to sleep i get to hang out with the boys every night. I get to... You could do two weeks. You could do two weeks and then go back. Well, it's one of those buzzwords, right? You eliminate, quote unquote, distractions. You have everyone focused. Yeah, but what about all the methods outside

looking for autographs? Aren't they a distraction? That was tough living in Anderson. That's what I'm laughing at, dude. I went up to your room there one time. I'm like, man, I am jetting home right right going to my california king sorry bro yeah i got this fucking little tiny little queen bed i got a chance to move up the ladder pretty quickly though when they cut everybody so when

they cut everybody peyton manning to be included in that list of people that were cut i got moved down the dorm so like the higher up you are the the younger you are. So like in the attic, basically you're the rookie. It's like this terrible fucking dorm. I was never up there. Cause I have my rookie year. We're in Terre Haute or a different place. It was pretty nice,

but boy, it was tough. Then like you kind of moved down and like the second floor is like the younger vets though, like three years, four years in. And then they just cut everybody on the team. So all of a sudden I became a guy that had a lot

of years there so they i i know that there was a discussion like we have to put pat on the bottom floor like we don't want to but we have to they gave me the room right outside of the living room area like the congregate the loudest the loudest room for sure i absolutely loved it it was just like uh like it was almost like the it was an extension of the lobby was my room i had a recliner in there and a fucking tv people just come in hang out i had a blast with it all the ogs are probably why they put you there they're in the basement the ogs are in the basement though they got like fucking suites down there like we did that tour mcafee store room remember that where i knock and you're like, hello. Here's my bed. Here's a fridge.

Here's a chair. And that's Anderson University. No, my room, though, got better. I went to the Rent-A-Center and got a camouflaged recliner. That thing was a hit with the boys. Kind of like a 70-inch flat screen. It was awesome. Yeah, Rent-A-Center, veteran move.

Veteran move. Nobody told me about it, though. I had to kind of figure it out out myself i'd walk into people's rooms that hadn't been on team as long as me how the fuck did you get this tv they're like oh rena center man didn't uh blah blah give you the number i'm like no i fucking hate that person it's like my fourth training camp what are we doing here can you explain to zito how rena center works so rena center you just you just go in there and you rent it and it's an entire center of... I've been to Rent-A-Center before. Don't mean well.

You asked me like two weeks ago, so what, you just rent stuff? Yeah, I figured out that day. Alright, let's sound out the name of the company. Rent-A-Center. Alright, so what did you possibly think was happening in that store? I actually had no idea. I thought it was just a store with a clever name. Kind of like those like...

What? Cinnabon? Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A is a very clever name. Chick-fil-A is a very clever name. Also, I learned that the one in the mall downtown Indianapolis that is not profiting at all, that mall, thatapolis that is not profiting at all that mall that entire mall is not profiting at all except for their food court i guess the chick-fil-a is one

of the top grossing chick-fil-a's in all the country right here in downtown indianapolis it's literally keeping the entire mall open every chick-fil-a is the most fucking is the top chick-fil-a i did that so let's play have you ever gone to a chick-fil-a no one's been there dude it's incredible and you can't just buy one by the way you have to work there before you can franchise one because obviously as soon as they start popping up i'm like jordan belfort like yo hey how do we get a chick-fil-a can we not just buy a franchise chick-fil-a franchise how about a mcdonald's franchise how do i buy these things like well mcdonald's you go on a waiting list it's very very tough to get. In Chick-fil-A, you have to work at it for two years. I'm like, fuck me.

I'm not making waffle fries for two years. I'm like, well, maybe it's not a bad investment by the way. That's why the product is so good though. I think Chick-fil-A across the board is more consistent than any other restaurant. And the customer service. Top notch.

The line may be all the way to the street, but it moves so quickly. Those kids out there with iPads are washing the wheels on your car. They'll do your taxes. Whoever's figuring out how the line works at Chick-fil-A should go up to fucking Everest and figure out that situation. I think that's the only person who would figure it out.

I don't think you could just iPad the Everest thing. You should have had your brother Jay working at Chick-fil-A like four years ago and then just give him the money, buy it. He's the shadow puppet for you. Just like you want people to get your doctorate for you. We can still do it. We can still do it right now.

Jay! Is Jay here? Should be. Yeah, yeah. He should get a resume ready right now. Work his way up to assistant manager. He left. Not manager material. Yeah, yeah. He should get a resume ready right now. Work his way up to assistant manager. He left. Yeah.

Not manager material. Fire day one. It's unbelievable. Not a good look. Not a good look. I love Jay, but I don't know that he would. He worked in the food business for a long time. I know, but that staff, like Todd was saying, they're just like,

hello, God, what a beautiful day. Jesus loves you and we have great food. Oh, yeah, he's got to pay his dues to become a franchisor. I know, but Jay would be like, what the fuck do you want? Take it easy on the chicken and the slander. They're not saying Jesus loves you. No, but I'm just saying that, you know. They are an upbeat bunch, though.

It's like a cult almost. Oh, yeah. It's an incredible one. They do it right. And the fact that they've stayed committed to the closed on Sundays thing. I know. Knowing that they could probably make another fucking 50 to 100 million probably per state. How many people think about Chick-fil-A on Sunday?

Every time. See? Every time you want to go to it, it's a Sunday. That's why, though. That's true. But also, I was thinking they could do very well on the after church crowd, I think. Oh, shit. Those chicken biscuits.

With the play place, too? Yeah. Hey, go get your dressing knickers on. Little chicken biscuits, man. They're incredible. Chicken minis. Chicken minis. I like Chick-fil-A a lot.

I don't mind the closed on Sunday. I like it. It's just like Yingling wasn't available everywhere, and it became like this mystique thing, like, oh, I want Yingling. It's like Poppy Van Winkle. They only make a certain amount of it, the whiskey, and everybody wants it. It's like McDonald's breakfast, right? They want to all day.

Has that helped them or hurt them, you think? Kind of hurt them. Dude, do you know what it is now? I'll order an Egg McMuffin, though, at fucking 10 p.m. and not even blink an eye. Oh, yeah. I want to let it be known. Oh, yeah.

Have you heard what they've done recently? What? This sounds serious. One of my girlfriend's friends went to go on Saturday to get lunch. Get a, obviously, what's it called? A McChicken at 1130. They don't start serving lunch until noon now. Like, you can't go at 1130 and get a fucking McChicken.

Yeah, I can't get fries. You can't get fries before fucking noon. What are you talking about? They spin zoned it? McDonald's. McDonald's. I can't get a McChicken at 11 a.m. But I can get an Egg McMuffin at 1130 p.m.

Correct. They're ass backwards right now. What are they doing? I don't know. I don't know. Oh, no. Whatever they want. Just do whatever they want.

They're winning. Thanks, Ray. And we just sit there and take it. I get hungry for lunch at 11 a.m. I'm not waiting until noon for fucking lunch. I don't know if that's a normal thing for me to get hungry for lunch either, but if I want a fucking McChicken and it's near sunlight has been up for a little bit. Correct.

If the sun is almost directly overhead, I should be able to have a McChicken. I agree. I don't know why both options aren't available. Why can't they coexist? Why can't they coexist? We're signing petitions for the wrong shit. People complain about game. Write a petition to McDonald's to get lunch back before noon.

Or no, have both options full time. Yeah, 24-7. I mean, why close? Take it to a poll. If you're listening right now, I would like you to tweet us at Pat McAfee Show, at Todd McComas, at Diggs with a Z, at Nick Morado, at Hey Gorman, at Viva Lizito, at Ty Schmidt, at Evan Foxy, and tell us if you think McDonald's is doing it right or wrong.

You can't get a McChicken sandwich at 11 o'clock. Come on. It's communism. What are we doing here? It is communism. It took down Venezuela, by the way. Take it easy. Fascist. Take it easy. It's going to happen here. It's going to happen here. This is communism. It took down Venezuela, by the way. Take it easy. Fascist.

Take it easy. It's going to happen here. It's going to happen here. This is the beginning of the end. Wise up, America. Hey, you guys, speaking of take it easy. McDonald's starts forcing people to eat lunch afternoon. Come on.

What's next, bro? What is next? I'm sorry, Gorman Sports Network. What were you going to say? No, it was actually a CBD slash marijuana update, but I just read Take It Ease. That's a cannabis distributor. It comes to your door place. It's called Ease.

How's it spelled? E-A-Z-E. Really? Ease. It's a cannabis delivery thing. I don't know what state it is in, but I saw it on social media today. I like the name. It sounds like Ease. Yeah. It sounds like Ease.

That sounds like Ease. Or Eazy. Oh, it may be Eazy. But I saw it in Reddit as Ease. Maybe we start one called Take It Ease. Take It Ease. Didn't one guy start a stupid Starbucks or something like that across the street? Yeah.

I love that. What was the law that protects them? Dumb Starbucks. Par protects them? Dumb Starbucks Parody law Dumb Starbucks, yeah I hope they get ease in Indiana soon Ease Take it ease

Speaking of taking ease A lot of people are blaming me for this fucking Jeopardy James thing, man I was taking a lot of heat after Monday night's episode After you So we sat down and talked to the man himself, straight to the horse's mouth. You're going to be interested to hear what he said. It might have been my fault.

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again is a friend of the show a man that took the world by storm with his incredible brain he had 32 wins on jeopardy just here recently until monday night loss alex trebek called him the most electric human he's ever seen in his entire life. Off the record. Ladies and gentlemen. Vegas Golden Knights fan. Professional sports gambler. Trivial wizard. Jeopardy. James Holes.

Hard. Just last week, you did the greatest billionaire walk I've ever seen in my life after in honor of my fake punt dance. Now you say that you have Razor Ramon, Scott Hall, the bad guy. Yeah, I think this one was when you pinned someone inside the five-yard line or something. Did a little wave to the crowd. I'm out of frame. I'm out of frame I'm out of frame

let me do this again Monday night James the world watched the ending of an era the Jeopardy James era on Jeopardy you knew it was coming and when you talked

to us, I got no hint of that at all. Has the Jeopardy people thanked you for your incredible ability to not give away the story before whoever leaked the footage? You know, I'll be honest with you, I'm not sure that people listen to the Pat McAfee show, but if they do, they probably gave me a little

salute for that. Well, if the Jeopardy people should but if they do, they probably gave me a little salute for that. Well, if the Jeopardy people should listen, they should. You have obviously known for a while now that that was coming. Was it hard not to give that away in interviews with us or anything like that?

You know, I think in general, the whole time is, you know, unless I got tripped up on something, I thought it was a fun surprise to spring on everyone just exactly how long it's going to go. Too bad the New York Post decided they needed to leak the results a day early. What can you do? Is that who it was? It was the New York Post?

Because the Jeopardy people said something along the lines, they used the word very, very, very appropriate action towards the person that they think leaked it. Do you have any idea or are you a part of those discussions about how pissed off Jeopardy was? No, not really. But you know, I think that what, what happened is there was some videos circulating like as early as Friday night on the internet, but there were just, you know,

five people sharing it on Twitter. But then, you know, once the mainstream media source picked up on it, everyone was going to find out. Oh my God. When you look back on your time on Jeopardy, how do you view it? As a positive one, as one that you're happy that happened,

or one that you're happy that's over? It would be pretty snarky to say it was not a good experience overall. No, I mean, I knew it had to end sometime, and I think if it had to end, it ended about as well as it could have. I didn't beat myself with a silly mistake. I just lost to a great player playing a great game can't ask for much more than that so a lot of people there's conspiracy theories flying because watching you

here's some actual stats over your run 32 wins 33 shows 1160 correct answers to 36 incorrect responses. Your touchdown to turnover ratio is legendary. So whenever somebody sees you stumble or lose, you can see how a lot of us go, well, there's no way that guy would lose just by losing. Like something had to be up. I'm assuming you heard about a lot of these conspiracy theories? Oh yeah. They're all great. You know, I mean, if I'm going to throw a game, You heard about a lot of these conspiracy theories? Oh, yeah, they're all great. You know, I mean, if I'm going to throw a game, am I going to do it in a game where I get no questions correct?

And, yeah, it's all very silly. But, I mean, your listeners are sports fans. Sports fans know upsets happen, right? You know, Buster Douglas happens. The 08 New York Giants happen. These, you know, no team wins forever. And streaks happen. But, you know, really really if you look back at the streak i i played great of course but there were so many games where one break could have gone against me and that

cost me the game you know nothing really went my way this time andy ruiz jr knocked out anthony joshua on saturday night okay everybody's like upset of the century upset of the century, upset of the century, this guy knocks out Anthony Joshua. Then on Monday, a librarian takes out James Holzhauer. The world was just hit with a two-piece of upsets that they could have never expected in history. You have to understand that. What's next for you? I guess no one can blame you for the McAfee curse since this episode was already in the can.

That's right. That is right. James, I wasn't going to try to ask you about that. I was just going to kind of let that fly, but I am very thankful that you came out, got ahead of that for me, and said that this is no way my fault at all for you losing that game. You want to repeat that just in case

anyone didn't hear it? I appreciate you, man. That means a lot. That's making me feel a lot better about my thoughts on things now. I can continue back running with and betting on myself heavily because, God damn, this McAfee curse was a real thing for a long time, James. It was a real thing. I was starting to get to the Drake records, but we've turned it around now.

We've turned it around, which I'm pretty excited about. Speaking of turning things around. That Drake thing was just a joke. He didn't actually show up to Jeopardy. I actually talked to you. Hey, James, I don't need you flip-flopping like that. I don't need you. Your Twitter game has gotten incredible, by the way.

I very much have enjoyed what you've been doing. Have you been enjoying the social media life and becoming a little bit of a famous man now on the Internet? Yeah, it has been better than I thought it would be. you've been doing. Have you been enjoying the social media life and becoming a little bit of a famous man now on the internet? Yeah. It has been better than I thought it would be. I guess I would say. I mean, you know, still time for the other shoe to drop, but no, it's going good. You're funny on there too. Very clever man. I think that's not something that

everybody has. I think you should sit back and enjoy the shit out of this social media run you're going to have. Well, hey, you know, I know a guy who transitioned into a second career as a media personality instead of comic. Maybe I'll take some tips from him. Now we're talking. I can write you a bunch of notes.

What are you going to do next? What's up? I know you've got a couple million dollars coming to you in the next four months, allegedly, your exact quote. They said they're going to expedite it for you, which is awesome because you've done so much for the show. But what is next?

Are you going to take some time off? Are you going to be getting prepared for the big fall football season so you can go take down some more sports books? What is the plan for James Holzhauer? Well, good news for my bankroll. They actually paid me this week just so they could get some publicity shots for me receiving the check. Yo!

Was it a big check? Was it a big check? Yeah. Did they give you a briefcase? What was it? Yeah, it was a briefcase. Yeah, no comment on how many gets passed around in Vegas, but no, it was one big check. Well, congratulations on that.

I'm excited for you and your family to get to enjoy your brain's treasures a little bit. What are you going to get into next? Are you going to take some time off? Are you going to get back into the gambling? Got a big game three coming up tonight. NBA Finals, NHL, Stanley Cup Finals happening right now. Are you going to go dip your toes in that water now that you have a little bit larger bank account

to be playing with some fun coupons? What's the plan for James Olsen? You know, for now I'm still comfortable taking some time off work. I think maybe even until football season rolls around. Other than baseball, there's not a lot to bet on right now and i'm rather enjoying uh taking it easy there's there's been a lot of uh a lot of media requests this week that sift through and i kind of had to like say i'm telling like yeah you know i'm already seeing someone he's a I appreciate you doing that I would say plan A

is to resume gambling as normal in the fall but you know there's some really really interesting stuff coming into the inbox now so I'd be a fool not to at least consider stuff people talk about me going to another game show Jeopardy still owns my rights until

the tournament of champions that I'm on finishes airing, and I think maybe even for a while beyond that. So it could be a while on that, but I wouldn't be too surprised to see me on TV or on a website sports-related in some capacity. Action Network, swinging

for the fences with you. They've already put two and two together there. You don't have to say anything. Pat McAfee says, that's not James Holzhauer saying anything. That's so intriguing to me that Jeopardy! owns your rights, because when you go on America's Got Talent, they own your rights. American Idol,

they own your rights. The Voice, the same type of thing. It's intriguing to think that Jeopardy! knows that a potential James Holzhauer can come and they don't just want you just to go pivot to another place and make money off it is that kind of what the the jeopardy rights thing is like you can't go play trivia nights at restaurants right now or what is uh what are the rules i don't think it extends quite that far you know you know i think it's funny though is that the the rules seem to only be written for trivia

show contestants. So I can't go on who wants to be a millionaire, but I ask them, hey, can I go run on American Ninja Warrior? Can I go receive a championship belt on a pro wrestling show if they invite me to do that? And they said yes to both of those. So I think they've never fielded these questions before. Okay, so anything I don't have to use my brain for. Got it. All right, you got it tournament of champions um you got to feel pretty good going into that is that all the ogs of

jeopardy like ken will be there and all of them will be there and it's finally your time to prove uh where you rank amongst all the other contestants are you just excited to kind of meet them all chat with them all and kind kind of up your trivia knowledge a bit? You know, they haven't told me anything yet, but what I would expect is it will just be the normal Tournament of Champions where they invite the 15 best contestants for the past couple of years. And then if they decide they need to do

some kind of super tournament with me facing Ken or whoever, then that would, I think, be a separate deal. But, you know, not a whole lot of information has come in yet. I can't spoil anything for you. Sorry. Well, we do know you were very good at the act of not telling anybody anything because that last show, I thought you were on for at least another four months, honestly,

after talking to you the last time also in that last show, I learned what Watson was. I had no idea what a Watson was. Yeah, that was, that was great. James, no idea what a Watson was. Yeah, that was great. James. You said, though, that they swiped Watson a little bit clean so he doesn't know, he or she, I guess, doesn't know everything anymore. So is the ultimate Jeopardy battle now you and Ken? Is that what everybody is looking forward to?

Is that the heavyweight fight? Is that what literally everybody is looking forward to in the trivia world heavyweight fight? Is that what literally everybody's looking forward to in the trivia world? Yeah, I guess you would say so. You know, I think it's funny, though, is the leading money winner on Jeopardy! is not me or Ken. It's a guy named Brad Rudder,

who's won, I think it's five super tournaments they've put him in, and he's never lost to anyone except Watson, the computer. So, you know, the obvious play would be to have just me facing Brad and Ken for I don't know what kind of prize pool or whatever, but maybe they want to spin it into a bigger thing.

Who knows? I don't produce TV shows. They might have grander plans than that. James, maybe you, Ken, and that other guy that has the most money, $5 million prize to the winner, $3 million prize to the second place, and then like a nice $1.5 million to the third place just to say thanks to you guys how do you feel about that?

yeah I mean I think all of us would probably do it for a tenth of that money but if they want to zero on the end I'm not going to complain well James I appreciate you man whenever I saw you lose I was legitimately heartbroken a part of my nights that I've become so accustomed to was about to change.

Although Emma's great, I think she's probably going to have a good run. I am very excited to see what you do next, especially with the way the sports gambling media is starting to come in so strong, and you're one of the faces of it. I can't wait to see what you do next. I guess it was hard for me to hold in the secret one time when I kept meeting people around town who would

shake my hand and say, oh, thank you. Thanks to Jeopardy and you, I finally have something to talk about with my wife over dinner. Finally, when I talked to my mom over dinner, I got something to chat about and I'm like, oh man, one week from now you're going to have to start asking how her day was. one week from now you're going to have to start asking how her day was it is a nice distraction man just watch the smart guy on the far left up here are these three he's

just going to answer every fucking question did you know this 1160 correct clues to 36 incorrect clues stat before i read it to you today uh i can't say I knew the exact numbers, but I figured they'd be in that ballpark, sure. Do you remember which wrong answer made you most mad? Good question. You know, I guess when I missed a question about the Babe Ruth category, they asked about what player leadership position he had, and I just spat out manager, and I should have known he was never a manager. I'm very familiar with his career, but it was captain instead. It makes a lot more sense, but, you know,

you've got to put everything past you and just move on. Short-term memory, I respect that a lot. Was there plenty of answers you clicked the button and you knew that you would just be able to figure it out by the time allotted to you or did you know the answer while you were clicking the button i tried not to do that it was uh you know i in my mind if i couldn't figure it out in the time it takes them to read the question there's a decent chance i'm not going to figure out in the next five seconds you know they do have sometimes a really quick clue that takes a few seconds to puzzle out and i think maybe once or twice i buzzed in on those on spec but it was not a normal part of my

strategy i assumed everybody did that yeah i would have thought so because normally the ones that i get right i normally don't get right until the end of said allotted time like i is so in my head i would assume people would just be like yeah yeah, I can figure out what is... Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. I honestly thought that's the way it was, and apparently it wasn't. It's good for you, James. You really took over the world there for a while.

The end of the allotted time, in other words, after the contestant has given the response, is that what you're saying? Yes, James. Yeah, that is exactly what I'm saying. Hey, what is your most fond thing about Jeopardy now that you've done it? Like from being a fan to doing it, and you're like, you know, they say never meet your idols, but getting to experience your favorite show,

what was the thing you were like, you know what, that was awesome that they did that? You know, I think one thing I really like is that the producers encourage you to inject a little of your personality into it. Now, I will say I had about 10 discussions with the lawyers on set about how, you know, just pushing an imaginary stack of chips into the middle of the table does not actually mean I'm committing to betting all my money. Or I'm waving my hand and saying, you know what to do is not legally sufficient. We had a lot of talks. They didn't like me singing song lyrics either

because apparently they have to pay royalties if I do that. We had talks about that. I don't know if you know this. There's now a rule that you're not allowed to say hi to anyone in your final Jeopardy response. That's also known as the James rule. Nice. I was wondering because you say you give your answer what is

and then you do it and then in parentheses, hi. I was like, I'm surprised none of the sticklers were like, well, that's not the right answer. I'm surprised you didn't get called out for that earlier. I'm happy that they didn't make a problem. They just adjusted. That's good news. I also had a run of three episodes where I started drawing some pro sports team logos

into my name, and they didn't have a problem with it because they didn't understand what was going on. But when I brought it to their attention, they immediately made a rule that that was not allowed anymore. Another one. Two rules.

This fucking guy. Can we get some categories just so I can lose it? That's awesome. Will you keep in contact with anybody from Jeopardy? Yeah, you know, I'm just ended. They've certainly been in contact with me a lot about

various stuff, media opportunities, making sure that I'm keeping a lid on everything, things like that. I don't know how it's going to be going forward. You're not supposed to have too public of a relationship with anyone who works at the show because the quiz show scandals back in the day, everything has to appear above board now. But, you know, they're very good people.

I wish I could be friends with them off set, but I don't think it's possible. Well, especially before that Tournament of Champions where you've got to go in there and saw down those other two nerds, James. Go in there and murder that thing. Champion of all champions means a lot. You didn't get bored, huh? A lot of people were speculating you got bored with it. No, I mean,

first of all, the money is just too good to possibly turn down, but no, it's a game. It's a fun time. Even if you're not having fun up there, the producers come out and pep you up. They're very good at making sure everyone has a good time up there.

All right, good. That's good news. Well, I can't wait to watch you win the Champions Tournament, beat the hell out of that one guy in Ken. What's his name, Brad? Brad Rudder. Is he dead? Is he alive? Yeah, lives in L.A. How come this guy's never talked about?

You know, I wonder if it must be hard for him to hear Ken's name in the media all the time. So he played back in the days when you could only win five episodes, and then he got retired. And he has won the tournaments, but I don't think he was ever appointment television the way Ken was. So maybe his name just became as big a deal that way. The rudder dog. I'm with him. All right, James,

I can't thank you enough for making time for us. You're a very busy and important human being. I appreciate what you did for my life there for those 32 wins. I think the world does as well. And I can't wait to see what you do next. Oh, thank you. Next time, try to challenge me to a less messy cancer charity event, please. Hey, look at you taking a stand there, or a seat, I guess, for pediatrics.

Yeah, I challenged Ken Jennings to Crack an Egg. He hasn't done it yet. Wow. Wow. And that's why Jeopardy! James't done it yet. Wow. And that's why Jeopardy! James is America's sweetheart. Yeah. That is why, right there. Because you're smarter than everybody,

nicer than everybody, and your wife seemed to enjoy cracking that egg over your head very, very much. Oh my God, yeah. You know what's funny is that she actually thought, oh, this is too messy of a thing. I don't want it done in my house. And then it kind of gradually dawned on her, wait a minute, I could be the one smashing this egg. That's the hashtag crack cancer challenge that's going around right now to raise funds and awareness for pediatric cancer,

I believe through Willie's Foundation or Willie's Fund in Connecticut, which is awesome. James participated in it with his genius wife that we have learned was on. Millionaire, right? Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Is that right, James? Yes it with his genius wife that we have learned was on. Millionaire. Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Is that right, James? Yes, that's right. Is that right? Yes, that's right.

So you two just do trivia stuff with each other at the house? Like, uh, like who's, is she like, how does this work now? Cause she had to, who wants to be a millionaire run there? You were on the chase. You did well, but nothing can compare to this Jeopardy stint. Is she going to be the next one to go on Jeopardy? Oh, my God. I can't tell you how quickly my wife is going to shut up all trivia game shows in the house for a while now that I'm done with Jeopardy.

All right, James. I appreciate you, man. Take care. Good luck with everything. Can't wait to see what you do next. All right. Thank you for having me. Ladies and gentlemen, James Hosehart. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. Take care. Good luck with everything. Can't wait to see what you do next. All right. Thank you for having me. Ladies and gentlemen, James Hosehart.

Thank you, man. Thank you, Pat. It was a pleasure. I was just taking a... I just went to the bathroom to leak some... Relieve yourself. No. No, not friend stuff.

Oh, he took a dump. Kid stuff or whatever. Kid stuff. No, not that either. Oh, I'm good. I just took a piss, man. But I was scrolling through the Twitter while doing so, and I saw, again, that Luke Combs shotgun.

A little bit dramatic in the... A couple of too many head knockbacks, you know? Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. But it felt like maybe... Now, granted, he might have been vacuuming that thing out of there, though. That's what I... Yeah, like the hole wasn't quite big enough?

I've never seen that strategy before where you really get after it, but that disappeared quickly. Yeah, it did. And if he's just housing beers like that, and he still has that buttery voice, I'm very impressed. Wasn't he a big boy? Yeah. He's large, man.

Oh, yeah. He's going 330. Hey, by the way, that means nothing. That means nothing. No, no, no, Judgey's here. No, no, but I'm saying just because you're bigger doesn't mean you can chug faster. You know what I mean? That's a real talent.

I like Luke Combs. I feel like it should, though. I feel like, you know. It helps, you think? No, just like as far as life goes, you know, if you're that big, you might as well be able to chug beer as well. Yeah, I mean, you're already there. Might as well add that.

But there's some people that can't do it. There's some people that just cannot chug. I think Aaron Rodgers is probably one of those guys. Yes. I chug like Aaron. I can't chug like Aaron. I'm not great at it. I can't put my throat up like that.

Because you've got to be able to open it up and just dump it in. By the way. Got those little bird lips. Bro, how about fucking Aaron Rodgers getting chug shamed? And nobody goes to the back for this guy. He's just getting bullied by everybody. Cyber bullied because he can't chug. Well, I mean, it was not a good look.

He came out, though, and laid some... Yeah, today he... Beer ain't his thing, bro. Good line today. Beer ain't his thing. For Scotch, it's a different story, and good for them, basically. Some of those guys finally found something they're better than me at. That is just sawing them

down by the... That was a shot right across the mouth. And he gave a smile to the camera, too, immediately after saying it i i i love it i love whenever that type of stuff happens i love whenever superstars look like humans so when they're chugging beers they look like humans mahomes chugging beers josh allen chugging beers mitchell trubisky stafford the whole thing i like that a lot when the superstars look like humans uh but i think we're in that era now where you learn a lot more about people than you would have in the past like i don't think joe namath's uh life if it was being documented publicly

wouldn't be one that would be they would be loved by everybody i mean if joe namath was around in this era right now he'd be hated by all the sports talk people who love him now they would hate him completely but he would have been an entertaining figure i like that we're in the era we're in but aaron rogers doesn't deserve to get chug-shamed. I don't like that at all. I agree. I don't like it because there's a lot of people out there that were judging him that can't chug for shit. True.

Can't chug for shit. I was taken back when I saw how truly bad he was. You would just expect a guy like that to be able to do everything. That is true. I just assumed he was good at it. I don't think he drinks beer. And that was wrong on my part on this show i don't drink beer either but i could definitely chug better than aaron rogers yeah take that aaron really yes thousand percent i don't think we saw aaron rogers chug i think he was just taking a

drink i think he was kind of half-assed yeah i really did well i actually said i thought he was trying to make boc diari look better because their offensive line get no shine, which he alluded to in his interview today. I think that was potentially what he was doing, but I like the fact that I think everybody should be giving the old Chugga shot because it's just like I said in the last show. The Chugga's a beautiful thing. The Chugga is a people unifier, a people pleaser.

It is something that is making its rounds. NFL Live on ESPN had a chug off between old Shefty and Orlovsky, two friends of the show. Chocolate milk. Is that what they did? Yeah, chocolate milk. They chugged chocolate milk. Yes. It's thick. That's not easy to do. I drink chocolate milk every day.

Shefty, not great. Well, I mean, see, but here's the thing. Just like what you guys are saying. Would we expect Shefty to chocolate milk him? No. Probably not. Orlovsky didn't do bad. No, he crushed him.

Orlovsky didn't do bad at all. He's kind of settling into his ESPN role. He is. Looks pretty good, too. He's got a little glow up. He's good for dance. It is, right? Good fit.

I remember just the other day we were talking about this. Well, Dan Orlovsky, you put out the most boring teach tape in the history of social media whenever he first got into social media his brain was so good because he's been around the nfl for so long in quarterback rooms around some of the greatest quarterbacks of all time and offensive coordinators of all time so he knows the game better than most and he would start doing these social media twitter breakdowns and i'd be watching them and i'd catch myself in the middle of them watching, like, oh, I feel like I just learned something there. And then I'd start listening, and I'm like, Jesus Christ, Dan. Just a little inflection somewhere.

Just a little. It was like Ben Stein there at the beginning. And then he just started working his craft, I think, and then he started working his craft. He gets ESPN. I think he's really found a flow in there. I like Odorlovsky. Yeah, I mean, you're right.

He's smart. He has studied under some of the greatest quarterbacks, like you said, and then learning from them, and he can articulate it. He's a good-looking guy, too. He's a good-looking guy. He can articulate it better now. Yes.

I yelled at him the first time he came on the show. I was like, Dan, I'm learning so much from your fucking videos, but they put me to sleep the entire time. Do you not think this could be a lot better? And now they give him literally a fucking telestrator on the screen on ESPN for like 10 minutes. Like, hey, Dan, just do whatever you got to do. And he crushes it.

That was coming from a place of love, though, right? I mean, you've known him. Yeah, I'm a big fan of him. You knew he was better than that. Hey, Dan, wake the fuck up. Same with when you talk to Caliendo and then Clayton Anderson. Just trying to help, man. When you know people, yeah.

Hey, listen, guys. You could probably make it somewhere, okay? I'm only going to be on the underground streets probably for a while here, so I'll give you guys a little bit of a lesson that I feel like I've learned from watching. You don't have to take it, by the way. I feel like that is something. It's a buffet, Pat.

If you want to take it. If you don't, move on. Just move on. If you don't want a salad, don't get a fucking salad. Get the french fries. Get your fried shrimp and get out of here. I like a good fried shrimp. Oh, scrims.

Hey, when you see those on Golden Corral Buffet, it has everything. Have you seen their most recent commercial? No. They know who they're advertising to. There is no one on that commercial under 300. Yeah. I've never been. If you've been to Golden Corral, it's so good.

It's so underestimated. Golden Corral is fucking good. People talk shit on it all the time. It's so good. It is. It is a five-star, six different restaurants. Well, hold on a minute. Breakfast, lunch, or dinner, it doesn't matter.

They're all good. I've also never been. Oh, it's incredible. Breakfast, lunch, or dinner. It doesn't matter. They're all good. I've also never been. Is it like Hoss's? It's better than Hoss's. It's like Ponderosa. It's better than Ponderosa. Golden Corral. On 38th Street?

On any street. That's the only one I've been to. Don't go back there. Shower walking out of there. 38th Street. But the food was good. Is that the one with the fucking shop of old things in the front? 38th Street is a pretty rough area here in Indianapolis.

A little bit, a little bit. Jesus Christ, Gorman. Well, I'm just saying, it wasn't the cleanliest place. I mean, they had fucking buckets of food everywhere. Yeah, it's like a buffet. Don't drop. Oh, I know, but I'm just saying, I had a fucking slug that was going on the floor next to me. Centipede.

You ain't seen a slug. You did not see a centipede. A centipede thing, yes. A thousand-legger? Huh? A thousand-legger? No, no, no, about nine. A centipede.

You saw a spider. With one extra leg. I'm just saying, I'm here. I saw a spider with a tail. I'm going to eat, I'm here. I saw a spider with a tail. I'm going to eat because I'm not going to leave hungry, and I'm probably not going back to this Golden Corral. That's all I'm saying. I'm telling you, though, the food was good.

And you said you went there, and I'm like, Pat, if you better than get 38th Street, you're not just fucking doing backflips over there. I know. There was one in Morgantown, West Virginia. Oh, okay. That was like right there. Take me home.

And it was perfect. I mean, it was everything you could ask for. And you go for that brunch time, your first meal, you go biscuits and gravy with some eggs. You do the whole thing. French toast, maybe. Whatever looks the best. I'm a waffle French toast guy I've become, by the way, I've realized. Big waffle guy.

Love waffles. I like waffles as well. But I think I'm more of a French toast guy than a waffle guy. Like, for instance, we were at a diner this weekend, and it said, our special today only waffles. Okay. So I got the French toast, because if they were that good, they would serve them the other fucking six days. That boy.

That boy. We're thinking. French toast, too eggy. A little too eggy for me. Really? See, I like that. I like that. I like that.

But it's got to be a little, I don't mind a little crisp on the outside, but a little soft on the inside, like a little cake, you know what I mean? I'm strong in these stats. I feel that any person that leaves a buffet like a Golden Corral, six out of ten people that leave say the same thing when they're walking into their car, which is? That was delicious. Yeah.

I want to throw up. I want to go home and fucking now. Thank you. Then you're fucking glutton. No, when you leave, yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Be able to handle the buffet. I threw up one time outside of a CC's. No, when you leave, yeah, that's what I'm Be able to handle the buffet. I threw up one time outside of a CC's

pizza buffet. Me too, yeah. I think that's something you gotta do. You haven't gotten CC's right until you've thrown up outside of it.

Yeah, Golden Corral, you definitely You can throw up inside CC's. I also threw up outside of a Buffalo Wild Wings multiple times. That's what I'm saying,

man. Whenever you're an eater, you're an eater. Yeah, yeah. I tried to go to Golden Corral. They opened one up in the town over

next to us when we were growing up in Monroeville. I vividly remember driving with my dad. I said, hey, dad, we should go to Golden Corral. He looked at me with just the most disappointed look and was like, Nick, that's where the poors go eat. Such a bad rap. I was like, dad, we're kind of poor. We should eat there.

It costs like $40 to get in there. Is it not the one with the antique shop in the front? The Cracker Barrel. Good Jesus Christ. No one answered me the first time. Whenever I get a hotel and go somewhere, I always look for one that's right across the street from a Golden Corral or a Shoney's.

Yeah, there you go. Because that's where I'm going to have breakfast. That's an old place. It's the best breakfast buffet, dude. It's so good. There's no way that's how you select your home. Oh, yes, I do. Yes, I do.

Shoney's is a down south thing, right? Huh? Is Shoney's a down south thing? Yeah, I don't think it goes much farther than that. I've never even heard of it. I've been going to Florida. I don't think I've been to a Shoney's. Yeah.

But I respect your going Corral Scout. Cracker Barrel, though. We're not talking enough about it. It's bland tasting. Yeah. Doesn't taste like much. It just feels old in there. Really? Overrated. Is there. I will play the shit

out of the checkers out front though and run it back on whoever wants it. How about that triangle with the T's? I've never won it. Oh, Chinese checkers? Nah, I think you're off. I'm a big Chinese checkers guy. That's the one with the diamond triangles. Anybody from any direction

can get it. The T-box game with the triangle, the T. like the triangles anybody from any direction can get it yeah the the tee box game with the triangle the tee I've never got that thing I don't know even I've never been to Cracker Barrel

that had the the correct number of tees in that game that's a good point it's usually short like three I love when they say there's going to be

a ten minute wait then I just go load up in the in the general store just with you know anything and everything. Conway Twitty. Yeah, I leave with taffy.

One time I left with a rocking chair. Yep. I got one of those. You know what I mean? Just buy it up until they set you. I do like taffy. Have you ever walked out of a place the food was so bad? No, I can't.

I feel so bad. I've left a note on the receipt. I think I've told this before. I've given a tip that was a good tip. It was at least 30% tip. I normally give like 50% to 100% tips. It's just kind of, I feel obligated to do so because I've been very lucky to be overpaid

for kicking balls for a long time. So I feel obligated to do it. If I go like 30%, though, I'll write an entire letter on that fucking thing letting them know why they're only getting 30%. And if they showed any effort or talent at all in serving food, probably

would have upped this tip by this amount of money, this whole thing. I'll do that. I've never walked out. Here's the funny part. Is they see a 30% tip and then they see the message and they're like, why did he give me such a big tip? Well, normally in the message, I let them know that they should find something else. Like you should go try and do something else. Like this is obviously not for you. I tried to play music when I was a kid. I sucked at it. I

had to quit it. This type of thing is for you. I think now's the time for you to move forward and be past this whole operation. You've walked out of it. I did it once I you, I think. Now is the time for you to move forward and be past this whole operation. You've walked out of a meal. I did it once. I paid. I put money down, but it was way before the waitress came. It was a Hokkaido seafood buffet, and it was so bad. I was starting to blue.

Yeah, that's what I thought, and I was disgusted at how bad the food was. I put $20 on the table and walked out. What did you order? It's a buffet. IHOP? IHOP. Goodbye. What? You don't like IHOP?

No, there's a real problem. What, do you hate Waffle House too? No, I'll go to a Waffle House. I'm talking about an IHOP. I have literally waited. Because anytime I go to an IHOP, it'll be either at breakfast time or at dinner time. And I always get dinner for breakfast. I get breakfast for dinner.

There's only one other time. Okay, I'm with you. But the food, 45 to an hour until it gets to your table. No way. Every time. I boycotted the IHOP. That was our first meal. I've had bad experience.

After our weight loss challenge, it's the first place we all wanted to eat. And they got the food there in 15 minutes. Oh, right next to the hotel. Yeah, because we picked the hotel because... Thanks, man. Did you see Todd's mouth watering the night before we went in? Me too, though.

Fucking sprinting over there after us. Hey, they were like shooting the smell from the kitchen to right into our hotel. It felt like... I like Bob Evans. Down on the farm? It's very good food. Best crepes. If you want a good crepe, you go to Bob Evans. Down on the farm? Best crepes. If you want a good crepe, you go to Bob Evans. I've never ordered a crepe.

I have never ordered a crepe in my life. It's a thin pancake? Really thin. Say I love crepes. I love crepes. Crepe? Go ahead and break it, Pepe Le Pew. I'm saying it.

Just go ahead and break it. Whatpe Le Pew. Just go ahead. Oh, I'm saying it. Just go ahead and break it. What movie is that from? Ricky Bobby. Oh, Z-Motel. There we go. Now we're talking. Look at you. That's what you learned in college.

Shake and bake. That's right. That a boy, Z. Anytime. I like Bob Evans, though. I get down with Bob Evans. You a breakfast or dinner guy? Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Crepes, though. Doesn't he come loaded with a bunch of shit on top? Yeah, jelly. Jam. Oh, it depends on what kind you get. Nutella. Fresh fruit in there.

Yeah, you get a nice strawberry crepe with some fucking... No idea. You wrap it like a taco? Yep, yep. Oh, so you eat crepes like tacos? Usually with a fork. Yeah, yeah. Normally fork and knife because they're a little flimsy.

Sticky. I don't eat my tacos with a fork. What do you call them? They got like powdered sugar and stuff like that on it. A crepe is almost like if you flattened out a piece of French toast because it has the egg in it. Really? It's a dessert breakfast.

Isn't it a crepe? Very sweet. Crepe. It's a crepe? Crepe. It depends on where you're from. I've only heard it as crepe. That's because you go to no class.

You probably say fucking. You're uncultured swine. If I assume if you're in France, it's crepe. Crepe because you go to no class. You're uncultured swine. Crepe? Yeah. What a crepe? Somebody do some research on it. I guarantee if you go to France and you say I would like a

crepe. Which I've done. You would like a crepe? I'm sorry, I have. I've had crepes in France. I bet you have. You've had crepes in France. Wait for the creme. Crepes I've had crepes in France. Yeah, I bet you have. You've had crepes in France. Wait for the creme. Crepes. We said crepes. Yes.

Hard one. I don't think it's right. Yeah, those two are wrong. Those two things are wrong. Not crepe. Say it. Say it. Come on, Siri.

Crepe. Thank you. Apologize times five. I mean, that dude sounds American. Apologize times five. That's actually not how to say it. That's actually on me. I searched not how to say it.

Jesus. Shocker. That's on me, guys. How would you? That's a lie. That's a Z-O-L. It literally just happened right on our head. You just got Z-O-L'd.

I just named it. Z-O-Lied? Is that what you named it? You just got Z-H'd. Good kid, that kid Other than the lies Good kid I'm telling you Gorman It was

Cause every time I was around him He was always like Like in the beginning Obviously happy Excited Talking Willing to do whatever

And then you leave I'm like man I fucking love that guy Nick's like yeah Good guy Good guy Yeah except He just lies

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Can I go back to the Twitch stream? Yeah, yeah. We gotta get back to the conversation, too. NBA finals are really heating up, aren't they, boys? Yes, they are. Oh, yeah. The way those guys shoot the ball into the hoop is just electrifying. Impressive. Swish. Swish.

And that was how I beat Shaq. Cities are really rallying. I mean, it's getting crazy right now. All of Canada is pulling hard for Toronto. And it seems like they have a real chance, especially with all these injuries happening to Golden State. But my question is this. Kevin Durant?

Ah. Yes. Klay Thompson, probably? Ah. Looney? Ah. Steve Kerr? Still there, I think. Yeah, he, probably. Ah. Looney. Ah. Steve Kerr, still there, I think. Yeah, he's back.

He has a bad back midseason normally. Now he's back. Is that Golden State team? Good pun. See that? If that Golden State team wins with all those people out, is Toronto still excited about potentially coming back and making a play here?

I don't think it's even possible. If you can't beat them like this, steph curry had what a fever or something like that clay was hurt kd was out ego dollar was hot that's all he does but that's got to be like i mean that has to take some out of you especially when you got to play him again and again in football you have one game right so if you lose to a team that has a couple hurt players like you don't have to sit with it for the next week or the next game. This one, it's got to be demoralizing. We just fucking lost literally their preseason team.

If they don't win tonight, aka last night, when Klay is most likely out, KD out, like you just said, and you really only have to... I say you only have to worry about Steph, but then I forget about... They still have Draymond and they still have Boogie Cousins. And Iguodala. And Iguod, but then I forget about it. They still have Draymond, and they still have Boogie Cousins.

And Iguodala. And Iguodala. And fucking Sean Livingston. They still have a decent team, but this is the night to do it. If you don't do it tonight, and then you have to play game four in Oakland as well, and you're down 2-1, if I am a Toronto Raptors fan, I don't have much. Okay, so I have a question. Steph Curry hit 21 straight threes the other day in Oracle Arena there, demolishing the Foxy Challenge of 19 straight.

Will he shoot 100 times with Klay Thompson out, or is this just going to be he's going to be getting double teams? It's going to be hard to get him the rock. 200 times. I would, if I would say. Pull up from half court, Steph. Go ahead, man. It's what you do. Just do it. I loved what happened between him and Kevin Love, by the way.

He put a tweet out back from the 2016 finals game, seven under a minute. He tried to go around Kevin Love, but he just kind of lazy did it and put up a shot and he missed it. They end up losing. Cavaliers win. He said, what I should have done is just go right around Kevin Love easily for a two-point shot and kevin love responded with a great tweet he said easily which i love kevin love

having a little self-awareness being like absolutely you could have just shook the shit out of me or it's the other way around a lot of people saying that he yeah he was talking shit like he was mad about it i think he was you think he was oh for sure dude kevin loves a great defender and he was deeing him up on that play i don't think he was. You think he was? Oh, for sure. Dude, Kevin Love's a great defender, and he was D'ing him up on that play. I don't think he thinks that Steph gets by him. He also seems like a very humble guy. He gets triggered. No, he gets triggered online.

Oh, yeah, you're right. It's been a couple years, though, since he's been triggered online. I think he's past that. Oh, you think he's mature? Especially since he didn't play at all, really, this season. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. I just know he used to, at least.

Oh, you're saying that history says that Kevin Love was real life triggered. Yeah, I think his buttons get pushed pretty easily. Really? Yeah. Oh, K-Love? Oh, yeah. Oh, because he got mad at... Oh, he was at the Minnesota, right?

Yeah. That was when he was fat, K-Love. So he came out of UCLA, right? That was great, K-Love. He came out of UCLA as a rebounding machine, like a board machine. This guy's going to get 20 plus rebounds at night. Double, double machine. And then he goes to Minnesota, and then he ends up going to Cleveland.

And they kind of pushed him out of Minnesota, right? Wasn't it kind of like one of those situations? He wanted out because he was tired of just dominating and have no one to play with. Okay, so he wanted out. So my fault. They didn't push him out. He kind of forced his way out of there.

He goes to Cleveland, wins a couple games, but I do remember him getting a little salty about shit that was happening on the internet. It was the dancing one. It was the only white kid in the thing. Correct. And they said, this is Kevin Love, and he was not happy about it. Well, he said he got Primo box or something.

Like, that's his actual tweet, right? He said he got Primo with the emoji of box. I don't think he was getting triggered by that. I thought he was kind of funny. What if he's just been misunderstood this entire time? What if K-Love is actually a hilarious human? I think he is. He looks like he'd be a hilarious human.

I remember seeing him reply to some tweets with a picture of his championship ring. Yeah. So maybe it is. Instead of viewing it as being triggered, view it as being hilarious, I think we got a whole new K-Lo all of a sudden. A whole new K-Lo.

I mean, what if we just change his entire PR image right there? Because I do believe a lot of people think he's like a crybaby almost. Kind of like a Kevin Durant thing, where people think Kevin Durant's like that. Oh, I think he definitely is. Kevin definitely seems like it. Which Kevin? Durant.

I agree with that 100%. I don't think so. I don't think Caleb got enough credit with the Cavs. I don't think so either. No, no, he definitely didn't. Yeah, you're right. He definitely did not. Because he was making plays for them out there.

He was an athlete. And the only thing is he got cold there for a little bit. Remember, he got real cold. Because he was a three-point shooter, wasn't he? Well, and that's the, like, because he played with LeBron, he had to basically just stick with, like, shooting baseline threes. Like, he used to bang in the paint. And, you know, I mean, that's.

And he got cold, and there was starting to be a narrative, like, well, if LeBron had any help or, like, Kevin Love was paid this amount of money, he's an all-star, he's supposed to do. I think he kind of got buried in that whole thing whenever he got cold. Three-point shooter, by the way, next shot's your best shot. You just got to keep throwing them up there until they start falling. We know that. We know that. That's what we do. I the way, next shot's your best shot. You just got to keep throwing them up there until they start falling. We know that. That's what we do. I don't

personally, but you know that. Yeah, yeah. No, we do that in here all the time. We are three-point shooters in here. We come in here and just put up our shots. That's it. Every once in a while, you're going to miss them, but every once in a while, you're going to get pretty hot. Which Steph should do tonight. Steph's going to put up a lot of shots, man. I mean, they ran a box in one of them on the end of last game,

which all the NBA experts are being like, if they try that again and you have time to prepare for a lot of shots, man. I mean, they ran a box in one of them on the end of last game, which all the NBA experts are being like, if they try that again and you have time to prepare for that in the NBA, you're going to get torched. But I'm sure they'll double-team the entire game. The very nice-looking, odd-looking coach of the Raptors ain't going to do it again. He knows. Nick Nurse. Nick Nurse knows that you can't just have that be sitting in the film room

for a couple days. They know what they're going to do. Steve Kerr is going to outwit them. You know what I mean? I mean mean just after the conversation we had with matt patricia last week um he very much views every game as a chess match you know what i mean with the other coach the other offense coordinator their quarterback you could tell that because he was like whenever he makes decisions he thinks about literally what this person did today what they've done their entire career and what's potentially on the line for them if they make a decision. That's how he

makes a decision, so it's very much like chess. I would assume the NBA coach is doing the same thing. Not that Spolster guy when I watch. I assume the pretty good coaches are doing that. There's no way Kawhi stays in Toronto. What if he wins right here? Does he stay in Toronto? The entire country is on your back.

He gets the most money there. He doesn't strike me as a guy that necessarily cares that much about getting 30 more mil to stay in Toronto. So much money. 50 million more. I remember a year ago,

and I'll say it, I think a lot of us did. We called it the Raptors idiots because they traded to Rosen for Kawhi, who you only were guaranteed a year. But I mean, does getting to the finals and possibly winning it pay off just for one year? Yeah, I think so.

What if I told you that Kawhi Leonard recently purchased property in Toronto? Go ahead. Chew on that one for a minute. They said two sources confirmed. Chew on that, boys a minute they said two sources confirmed chew on that boys what the property

yeah two sources what two real estate agents two different sources they didn't say who but I'm assuming somebody has access to and property owner

yeah said oh yeah fucking Kawhi's buying shit from us who gives a shit that don't matter Ty no I mean Pat

as a professional athlete people love Toronto by the way yeah would you just be tired of fucking moving from city to city year and year? I mean, after this next one, it will be his, I'm sure he'll be there for five years because he'll get a max deal or whatever. Personally, I don't enjoy moving.

I don't love it. When I was going up for contract, I was very open. I was like, well, I'm either going to deal with the Colts or I'm probably going to retire or at least take a break for a little bit because I didn't want to move. And I liked my connections and network I had here in Indianapolis. I built up a good friend group,

a good network business-wise. I had a good situation going. So I don't know if that's how Kawhi is though because he just got here a year ago. Yeah, that's the thing. Why would he buy this property? He'd fall that in love with Toronto in one year that he's like, well, I always want to be able to come back. People say Toronto is the place. It could be a vacation home. year that he's like well i always want to be able to come people say toronto is the place so it could be it could be a vacation home yeah yes he's a quiet guy too i

could see him just wanting to get away like train up there maybe he's built a good relationship with the i mean because he's playing very good ball right now yeah all the all the that that guy that's sitting at the end um not uh the owner the car dealership owner guy oh yeah um i forget his name he went viral you get it who he is i assume he wants to do business with kawaii leonard i assume everybody in toronto loves kawaii leonard for what he's brought to the city i mean if they win here i don't know how you leave i have no idea how you leave especially especially as kawaii as a guy who's like a nice guy he seems like he's a nice guy he's a a quiet guy. Doesn't want to get into drama. If you leave a city after bringing them a title and they can offer you 50 million more dollars and you're beloved by that place, I think it's very tough to leave. I think that is

very, very difficult. Why can they offer him more money? Is that just the way the NBA contracts are structured? So it gives the player incentive to stay with the team they are. But are the tax rates in Canada higher? I assume the taxes are higher. the team they are. But are the tax rates in Canada higher? I assume the taxes are higher. I think they are. But I don't know how much it's going to crush you for $50 million. LA is probably pretty similar, I had to guess. Yeah, crush you, yeah.

I would assume that it's not the same. Because the Clippers are his other rumored team, and so California taxes are fucking... Imagine doing his taxes. Pretty crazy. He doesn't want to be in the Western Conference either. You dominate the East, you stay at the Raptors, and you go to the finals again. He could probably recruit people to Toronto, by the way. You dominate the East, you stay at the Raptors, and you go to the Finals again.

He could probably recruit people to Toronto, by the way. If he's there, he could probably recruit some people there. Maybe not like super superstars, but I'm sure he can get two, three other good players to stay with him that he has now or bring in a couple other guys. I mean, that would be Russell Westbrook. What if they get Westbrook in a couple years up to Toronto?

It'd be incredible. He could get Kemba next year, maybe. That would also be incredible. Kemba still playing basketball good? Still great at it. He was so good that one March there for Utah. Every March. Oh my god, he was so good at basketball. This year when Charlotte came into March, they won like 12 in a row just because

Kemba in March is absurd. That'd be awesome to get him on a team that's good so I can see him again. He was a fun player to watch. Not a lot of Charlotte Hornet Kimps. I don't think they play here in Indy. Do they play on TV anywhere? No. They don't let them on TV.

I think they're like the Flint Tropics. I didn't know they were so team. Are they in the NBA? I honestly thought there was a chance maybe they had to play for fourth place and stay in the league. For a while they were the Bobcats. And then they switched back. I'm sure their fan base is awesome.

We probably have a lot of people that listen that are. Good for you. I'm just telling you, out here in America, we've never seen a single game of theirs. I have not seen. And I don't even know. Did any of them even make the All-Star game? Like, I thought they had rules that a player from every team had to make it. I don't even think I saw a Hornets player at the All-Star game other than Jordan.

Yeah. Michael Jordan owns the thing. I assume Kevin made it. Kevin made it. Bad owner, too, by the way. Yeah, I said it, Mike. I said it. Oh, he's listening. They were ninth in the East this year.

Almost. Oh, you got to be eighth to make the playoffs. I would have seen them. This has been floating around NBA. They're thinking about doing, for the last spot, for the eighth seed in both conferences, doing an eight-team tournament at the end of the season. Oh, I'm all season to see who gets the

eight seed. Single elimination? Yes. I like it. I like it. That'd be awesome. I love it. So it's not for the eighth seed. It'll be for the bubble seed is what they'll call it. They won't call it technically eighth. You're just the eighth because you're the eighth team in. It'll be a bubble. That's awesome. I love that. You got March Madness now all of a sudden.

Do it just like March Madness too. Have games go through the day. Have it knocked out. Oh, that's brilliant. They should do that. And then it also gives the one through seven seeds in each conference a little bit more rest, like two or three more days more rest before the actual playoffs. Hey, you earned it, boys.

Yeah. All right, that's about it for the show. I think that was it. Yeah, feels good. Happy Thursday to you guys listening at home. Friday's right around the corner. Yes, it is. It really is.

It's right there. Right there. We're just one day away. Got a couple of announcements really quick. Sorry, Pat, coming out of left field, but happy birthday to my dad at 81 years of age today. There you go, Barry. And also- That a boy, Ferran Square Lair.

Thanks for that. Happy birthday to him. And also Robert Kraft, 78 years old today. Oh, speaking of Patriots. Happy birthday to him. And also, Robert Kraft, 78 years old today. Oh, speaking of the Patriots. Happy birthday. Yesterday. So that was yesterday. Yesterday it was?

Yeah. I take it back. My dad's birthday is today, not Bobby Kraft. Yesterday. Yesterday. Oh, both of them was yesterday. Yeah, all right. I'm going to.

I got Bobby. Is Coach Lou Holtz here? Is Coach Lou Holtz here? Is Coach Lou Holtz here? Does he have anything to say? Maybe he'll have a birthday message. Well, what do you want? You want Coach or the older analyst? There's two different guys.

Give me the older analyst. I'm out on analyzing you attempting to give two birthday shout-outs. Hey, the older one? In the studio one? Yeah. Give me the older in the studio Dr. Lou. Can you have Brokaw

send it to fucking Lou Holtz? I can try that. And finally, this evening on NBC Nightly News, Tom Brokaw signing off, but before let's go to South Bend, Indiana to catch up with The good doctor

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This is a crip in a crip I don't like the IHOP. Hey, three things if you want to go breakfast at IHOP. Number one, find a beautiful waitress. She's always smiling. She always gives you the fresh food. Second thing is never order a crib because you don't know if it's a blood or a crib, and we don't want any games.

But enough of the gang wars out there. I'm sick of these guys fighting. What the hell are we talking about? Happy birthday, Farron Square, Larry and Robert Kraft. Big thanks to Lou Holtz. I'm sick of these guys fighting. What the hell are we talking about? Happy birthday, fair and square, Larry and Robert Kraft. Big thanks to Lou Holtz, Bro Cow. Broke Cow. And Jeopardy James for coming back.

We appreciate you all so much. Hey, real quick, before I leave this. Hey, this is a good show. It's all right. Thanks, Coach. Actually, I'm sorry. Studio, Lou. Have a good show. That's all right. Thanks, Coach. Actually, I'm sorry. Studio Lou. Have a great Thursday.

Have an incredible weekend. Big thanks once again to the badasses that landed on the beaches of Normandy and saved the entire world. 75th anniversary. Go thank Yvette today. And other than that, Ty Schmidt, hit the music. Soldiers, sailors, and airmen of the Allied Expeditionary Force, you are about to embark upon the great crusade toward which we have striven these many months. The eyes of the world are upon you.

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