The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 083 - Gordon Hayward, The War With Golf Update, & Big Time Logic Talk

Episode Date: June 20, 2019

On today’s show, Pat welcomes Butler University legend, 9th pick in the 2010 NBA Draft, NBA All-Star, and current face of the Boston Celtics, Gordon Hayward onto the show for an incredibly open and honest conversation. They chat about his rise at Butler, and what the NBA draft process is like when you aren’t positive where you’ll be going. He talks candidly about his horrific leg and ankle injury and what he’s been doing to recover from it mentally/physically and whether he’s still working through that process, and what his relationship with Brad Stevens is like. They also chat about the NBA rumor mill and how he keeps a level head during that process when everything is changing so quickly, and talks about his change in barber once he ended up in Utah (8:37-48:33). Pat also addresses the status of the war against the USGA, the guys try to answer a few logic based questions, discuss Brett Favre announcing on his Instagram that he was coming out of retirement(he was hacked), Max Scherzer breaking his nose laying down bunts in BP, chat a little about the upcoming Pat McAfee Does America Tour, and have a lengthy discussion about some of their favorite places to travel while getting into an in-depth discussion about scuba diving, hot air ballooning while Pat recounts his entire skydiving experience and how he was sure it was going to result in certain death. It’s a good one, come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I've been calling for about a year and a half in advance. Easily. It's hard. It is hard breaking all the biggest news. And also, I saw a video from Elon Musk basically saying he was an alien. Avengers movie? Another one. Another one.

I forgot about that one. I mean, I completely forgot about that Come on What a load of me calling the Raptors winning No pseudonymous over here Sorry? The Raptors winning You called that one

There was other people in the office that said the Milwaukee Bucks Were going to win They took a stand and said the Milwaukee Bucks were going to win And there was other people that actually said I'm going to take the field You guys take the Warriors And you know what? Bunch of you fish bit

Well, I mean Bunch of you fish bit Yeah, but the problem with There's no problem There's no problem It's documented It's on air It's okay

You're on, you're on Okay, good By the way, before this Pittsburgh trip I am going to H&R You go to H&R We I am going to H&R. You go to H&R. We'll also go to H&R to talk about the guy who's trying to claim that he won a bet

said the Milwaukee Bucks were going to win the NBA title. And once they were out, then a new bet started, brother. Yeah, but what we're saying is you just H&R is going to be sick of your shit too. You know what I mean? That's fine. You don't need to confirm. How much do we owe you?

80. Everybody owes you 80? Well, it was 4 to 1 I gave you on the 20. So I was paying you guys 20 bucks apiece when the Warriors won. Or if somebody else won, you guys are paying me 80 bucks a pick. And Ty Schmidt, don't think I'm not looking at you. That's fine, Ty. That was null and void.

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When he talks to you on the phone But if he goes back to the email I'm happy to pay for my own room That's not what we do here Thank you That's not what we do here Team We're a team One team, one dream, baby Speaking of team Joining our team today I'm happy to pay for my own room. That's not what we do here. Thank you. That's not what we do here. Team.

We're a team. One team, one dream, baby. Speaking of team, joining our team today is a guy from Canada. Shout out to Gumpy making the trip to the States. He will never be a citizen here because the process of becoming a citizen here is not just tough on the southern border, by the way. We've learned the northern border is also difficult. Happy to see Gumpy still alive because gumpy paints ships for a living and inhales toxic fumes on a nightly basis but he'll be with us this weekend for a tour can't wait for that and we

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Shout-out Seat seat geek for being the presenting sponsor also i was entrenched in a war oh for four days dug my heels into the microphone i am not a go to war guy no i am not a let's have beef guy no i am not a I want to waste my energy on something that doesn't bring me happiness guy. No. But what had happened on the internet this past weekend on my Twitter account and my Instagram

every man has his limits. Yep. I decided I had to go to war with the United States Golf Association for trying to kick me off of Twitter for a video that I created, a video that I commentated on, a video that I posted onto my Twitter and Instagram, a video that led me to become the top influencer for the US Open,

the biggest golf tournament of the year. And the USGA attempted to ban me from social media i dug my heels and i said i will not stand for this because if you stand for nothing you will fall for anything for anything the french said that they didn't say that actually they just did just did it. Yeah, they're the example. We should have put an I-E before you said French. I-E. The French. The French.

Sorry to our French listeners. I've checked our demographic. Not a lot of them. Correct. Today, an armistice was signed between myself and the USGA. The USGA reached out to me twice today, letting me know that they had made a mistake, that they are very sorry for what had happened,

that they are reaching out to Twitter to get the DMCA and the strike off of my record. They wanted to implore me and ask me to continue to make these types of videos, and they are sorry for what had happened in the miscommunication over the weekend so i would like it to say on the record that i officially am 100 friends with the usgn i need them to the rna so that you're able to do these videos for the Open. Yep.

We'll see what happens in the future. They were very kind, very nice. They were polite. And I would like to say that all wars come to an end. This one came to a proper ending. Two sides met and chatted. They sent their representatives, two of them, to chat with me. We talked it out.

We handled it. Everything's good to go and I am very thankful for the USGA handling it in this situation. Do I think they personally attacked me? I do. Do I think this ending happens without me publicly going to war? No.

So is this all for naught? Absolutely not. I appreciate everybody that listened and tagged USGA. I appreciate everybody that found that video, which was hilarious. You found it hilarious. I'm very thankful for you. And I'm very thankful for the USGA understanding, giving me a call and straightening things out. We are no longer at odds with USGA, which is better for everybody. Very thankful for that. Great longer at odds with the USGA, which is better for everybody. Very thankful for that. Great.

Shout out to the USGA. Honestly. Gary Goldman has a joke. I don't remember the exact words and I can't deliver it anywhere near as good as him. But he said, old people back in the day never complained about anything,

so there was never any advancements. They used those shitty phones for so long where they had to... And so one generation came around and was like, this phone sucks. And then that made an advancement. And now we have a computer as a phone. Back in the day, computers used to be the size of rooms and there was never a complaint about how big it was. So they were just like, yeah, we have a computer. It's good. Until a generation came through and started complaining about things that made real changes. I appreciate, I don't't like complaining i don't like going to war but if it wasn't for this i do believe and it wasn't for you people listening i don't believe this relationship i'm about to have

with the usga would ever be possible so thank you for that thank you to usga for understanding now let's get to the best basketball conversation we've ever had on this show if you don't like basketball that's okay. I think you're going to love this conversation. Zito has a question. Swish. It's a statement. He was just holding his hand up.

Ready for the shot. That's on me. It was folded back. You missed. Zit from deep. Swish. Basketball Zit. Good.

Brick. Come on. Ladies and gentlemen, possibly joining us now is a man from Brownsburg, Indiana. He played his college basketball at the prestigious Butler University right here in Indianapolis, Indiana. While he was there, he led the Bulldogs to a Final Four, then a national championship, merely missing by a sixteenth of an inch to win a natty for the Bulldogs. He then went to Utah. Now he's with the Boston Celtics.

He found a great barber, ladies and gentlemen, possibly Gordon Hayward. Hey, what's up, Pat? How you doing? Is this actually Gordon Hayward? I got a lot of questions. You text me with a green text message. I got your phone number literally from a random guy at a bar here in Indianapolis. I'm kind of mind blown by the whole thing. I'm a big fan. I hope it's the case. Is this actually Gordon Hayward? This is actually Gordon Hayward. I don't know why you're so upset about the color of the text bubbles. You're going to have to get over that. It's 2019, Gordon. You are a wealthy man. Anytime a blue text message doesn't

show up i'm immediately disgusted but when it comes from one of the most handsome professional athletes i guess i can overlook it let's get right into this gordon i was reading into you and i got a chance to learn about you because when i was with the colts the butler bulldogs were the topic of conversation here in indianapolis So much fun, so much energy. And when you guys were making those runs, it was an incredible thing. You came out of high school from a local team here. Was Butler your only school that offered you, aside from tennis, obviously, but for basketball, how did you end up at Butler,

and how did you end up a Bulldog? Yeah, so I grew up, obviously, insburg which is which is close to butler but my parents were both uh purdue grads um so i was like brainwashed my whole life to go to purdue and that's that's what i wanted to do uh play basketball at purdue and um i can remember i think i was a freshman or a sophomore and my dad was asking me like hey hey what do you think about butler and i was like yeah i'd never go there like I'm never gonna go to Butler uh there's no way I thought they were a d2 school uh to be honest at the time um and you know kind of one thing led to another and I ended up taking an official visit to Butler and fell in love with it and coach Stevens

and their whole program. But besides them, I got offered by Purdue and I got offered by IUPUI, but that was about it. So I was a late bloomer. Well, the Butler run that you guys had was magical to say the least, especially for the national championship to happen here in Indianapolis. The entire state of Indiana was behind you. You go on and be the ninth pick for the Utah Jazz. When you got to the NBA, did you assume that you were going to be able to pick it up as easy? Did you expect some troubles, or were you excited to translate into the NBA game? I didn't really know what to expect. I always had a dream of playing in the NBA.

I didn't necessarily think or know that it was going to happen. Certainly didn't think I would leave early from college. And then, you know, to be honest, after you, like, when we went to the title game, you know, the next probably four or five months was just like a whirlwind. I mean, it was immediate, like, two weeks afterwards, you know, I thought about what I wanted to do. We decided that I was going to leave and try to go play in the NBA. And as soon as, you know, we decided that then you're thrown into, um, you know, pre-draft stuff, you're going to combine, then you're going to, you're going all the way around the country, doing different workouts, just trying to play your best basketball, going from one to the next.

trying to play your best basketball going from one to the next um i think i ended up doing 14 or 15 plus workouts for different teams um and so they they i wasn't like a guy that was like oh this dude's gonna be you know a top 10 pick like i was projected anywhere from like five to like 25 and so i had no clue where i was going to go, where I was going to be. And then, you know, Utah drafted me and immediately after you get drafted, you know, you kind of get thrown into summer league and you're then just trying to, you know, survive your best school at the next level. So I didn't really have time to think about what it was going to be like or if I was going to struggle or if it was going to be easy. I kind of was just going in with the mindset of, you know, I got a lot of work to do.

This is now my job. And just try to get better, you know, year by year. Okay. So if I have this right, basketball is a little bit different than every other sport. You can kind of test the waters of going professional and then you can decide not to go you're being projected 5 to 25 and you still decided to go instead of come back to butler is

there any reason you decide to do that other than just completely betting on handsome gordon hayward well i mean i think with with basketball especially you know if you're projected to go in the first round that you're guaranteed two years on an NBA roster. And it's almost like you have to go because if you don't, you know, then your game's just going to be scrutinized over for the next year. And on top of that, you're going to get, you know, a whole other class of freshmen. And everybody in the NBA loves potential and,

um, that whole thing. And so if you, if you wait, you kind of, uh, um, it's almost,

you know, you got me, I get injured. You never know what's going to happen. So it was kind of just the decision like, Hey, we got, we got to go try this.

Let's just go, you know, bet on yourself and just try it. Okay. So this will be airing, uh, tomorrow, which tonight is the draft.

What are the feelings for people that are going into the NBA in the NFL draft? The first round is basically figured out. I'd assume the same thing in the NBA, although you said it's a big question mark. What are the thoughts? Like for instance, I mean, there's a lot of movement that happens in the NBA. What do you think the guys are thinking going into tonight? Is it something they're just going to try to enjoy? Or is there a world of pressure on everybody going into draft night? And how did you handle that whole thing? Were you with your family? Were you at the draft? How did you handle it all? Yeah. I mean, I think it's, it's like so different, like a person, like each individual has such a different story of the draft and kind of how it works. I mean,

I think initially, you know, you're projected in a certain range. It's kind of, okay, I think I'm going to go in the first round, but then, you know, based on how you're, how you did at the combine, based on how you're doing at workouts and, you know, if you go work out for one team, all the other teams talk. So it's almost like each workout you're working out for everybody. Um, and then you kind of get a sense, you know, through your agent, like, okay, we kind of have, you know, an agreement with this team at 12, like, they're definitely going to take you at 12, if nobody else, you know, takes you beforehand, and usually, if you get one of those type of,

you know, agreements or whatever, you kind of, you kind of know that you're going to get picked, and so then you can decide, do I want to go to New York or do I want to stay and, you know, do something with my family or whatever. And, um, for me, my agent, um, said, or had a, you know, a strong feeling that I was going to be drafted, um, in the lottery and which is one through 14. And so then we, he was like, Hey, let's go to New York. It'll be fun. You know, we can see the city and it's an experience you only get to you know do once so um I think when I'm sitting there though I was with my my whole family and my agent and you're sitting at these tables and other than kind of knowing I think I was going to be you know at a couple spots I still it's not like I I had a like I knew I was going to go to Utah or anything like that so you're still kind of sitting there and I knew I wasn't going to be

like top five and so that that part's easy's easy. But then after that, you know, my name could be called at any point in time. And you're kind of just like sitting there like anxious, where am I going to be the next, you know, part of my life? Like it's life changing. And, um, so that part is definitely nerve wracking. And, you know, then right before, uh, Utah picked, you know, we got a call and Mark was like, all right, this is, this is going to be you. This is going to be right here. And then, you know, it's a circus after that. The thought of potentially becoming an Aaron Rogers or Brady Quinn or Johnny Manziel in the draft room is, I think that's my nightmare, by the way,

especially after what you had just accomplished with butler with the and i said this in the intro you a 16th of an inch away from winning a natty with one of the most spectacular shots in the history of college basketball if you have one of those draft moments i couldn't even imagine the pundits being like gordon hayward has been through enough you know that whole right yeah uh you're definitely you definitely i mean it you're definitely thinking that in the back of your mind but i think that's kind of where you know hopefully your agent has talked to these teams and you kind of know like all right i think i'm pretty good as somebody who doesn't follow the AAU and the basketball come up as much as others probably do,

and I host a sports podcast, so it's probably something I should do. But when these Europeans get drafted out of fucking nowhere, like out of nowhere, do the other players, yourself included, know about them going into the draft? Have you ever seen them before? Have you ever seen them before? Have you played with them before? Or is it a curveball for you guys as well? Like, well, who knows who the hell this guy is? He's going to get a couple million dollars more than me

because he played against four-foot-tall white guys over in Greece. I mean, I think there's always guys like, I think last year was a good example, like Luka Doncic. I'm sure everybody knew who he was because he was such a big story. But there's always guys that seem like they get picked, like you said, it's literally out of nowhere, and they're picked like 11 or 12, and you're like, I've never heard of this guy at all. And you're looking at your agent like, who is this?

And he's like, man, I don't know who that is either. They must have just found him. Certain teams, I think, have European scouts that probably do a better job know who that is either like they must have just found them and um certain teams i think have you know european scouts that um probably do you know better job than others at finding guys and i will say there's there's always sometimes like i think that teams kind of have agreements with agents and this might be more of a case over in europe than than here just because it's it's i think easier to kind of protect against them. But sometimes if the team really likes a player, I mean,

they can say like, hey, don't work out for anybody. Like, I don't want you doing anything. We're going to draft you at this spot, and we don't want any of the other teams to see you. So sometimes I guess it could be something like that, but there's always guys that just come out of nowhere for sure. Okay, so you get drafted. Have you seen Zion play?

Obviously, you don't live under a rock. You've got 45 kids, all girls. I saw the gender reveal, which was awesome, by the way. You got judged pretty hard. Daddy's always happy, man. Congrats on another girl, by the way, and I assume you're going to have another one at some point as well. So congrats on another girl by the way and i assume you're gonna you're gonna have another one at some point as well so congrats on another girl again um well i you know i talked with uh philip rivers

about about some things and i meant he mentioned that he started with three girls are you gonna start hold on are you starting an entire farm of kids like philip rivers has yeah see that see that's the thing i'm sure he wasn't worried about it when he was going for an 11-12 kid or whatever he's got. I don't think I'm doing that, no. You stopped in Utah for a bit and decided to have 45 kids. I respect it. The Mormons didn't deserve that.

My friends are Mormons. All respect. Oh, Jesus. Okay, so have you seen Zion, though? Do you think his game? Oh, yeah. He's so have you seen Zion, though? Do you think his game? Oh, yeah. He's incredible, isn't he? Yeah, I mean, when you watch him, I haven't seen him in person,

but watching it on TV and seeing some of his highlights, it's just like not fair. I mean, some of the things he's able to do, I mean, he should be, I mean, it's like he should be on the football field. Like the weight that he has and his ability to move and explode up to the rim, I mean, I think he's going to be a game-changer as soon as he steps on the court. So, I mean, I think as long as he doesn't get hurt, I think he's going to be, I mean, he's going to certainly sell tickets to whoever has them.

But beyond that, and highlight reels, but beyond that, I think he's a game changer. And in the NBA, it's going to be even, you know, there's more space. There's better playmakers. Guys are faster. And, you know, so he's going to, I think he's going to have his way. We interrupt this incredible conversation

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kind that kind of gets talked about a lot where they're like the athletes make the plays the athletes make the plays but steve kerr if you watch what he has been able to do with the golden state warriors after jackson leaves and br and Brad Stevens with Boston, I think coaching can really help. Maybe not even in the games, kind of let the guys do their things, but in practice. Do you think the coaching in the NBA is going to be able to change a player like Zion into a very much well-rounded player? And for you, what did it do for you coming out of Butler to make you a more full rounded player when you don't have to worry about faking through school not that you would

but I'm saying other people and just fully focusing on basketball yeah I mean I think I think you hit it like perfectly I think being able to just only like play basketball and work on your game is huge especially for a young player just able to develop so i mean i think there's it's like the the results speak for themselves with the with the teams and the coaches that they have i mean you look at the spurs them developing players um the jazz have done a great job developing guys and so it's it's it's really it's it's the coach and then the coaching staff and then also just the culture of, you know, bringing in guys and being able to kind of develop their games. And as you would say, you know, making guys more well-rounded, I think.

almost like a redshirt program sometimes for guys like they have in college where, you know, you draft an 18-year-old or a 19-year-old who, you know, maybe isn't all the way ready to play NBA games, and you literally just let them, like, lift the whole year, you know, eat right the whole year. You can even throw them down again, play in some of the G League games or only play in practice, whatever, and you're giving somebody a whole year just to train, you could come back and just be a monster. I think that would be incredible for somebody that's 18, 19, still growing. Yeah, the guys are so young getting in the NBA. They just have so much talent, yourself included. I mean, you went to college two years, and you couldn't even have a, not that you do,

but you couldn't even have a legal drink yet, and you're in the nba and now you're expected to help a franchise win games the nba the way it operates and i think the nfl should at some point obviously if a guy's good enough to make the nfl let him go but that is a crazy thought to think like hey there's some maturing that has to happen both physically emotionally and mentally to become a full pro and maybe we shouldn't judge him as hard early let him get better i think that's a brilliant idea by you speaking of growing and maturing both uh physically and emotionally so what you just found a barber and then became like the hottest guy on earth when he got rich what happened with this whole thing uh i really did like i was going to to great cliffs like that was you know the deal was i'm just going to be the great cliffs and just got the normal haircut got out of the, you know, the deal. My mom just took me to Grey Cliffs and just got the normal haircut, got out of the shower, you know, just whatever.

You're ready to go. And I think originally my wife was like, hey, you should come see this guy that I go to. He cuts men's hair, too. And at the time, I was like, no, hell no. No way. I'm not doing that. But I ended up just going and getting the haircut. doing that like um but i ended up just going and getting the haircut and i think when you have a good haircut and you know you just like the way that it makes you feel and um kind of just start

from there look good feel good feel good play go play good pay good pay good live good live good die good and that's all we're trying to do here speaking of you added some some on to that i didn't know those those other things you added on well dion sanders had that first batch there and then the live good die good thing it's really all we're about here if i can add a little something to one of the greatest football players of all time it feels good but i remember whenever you were up for free agency coming out of utah and all the talk was about how a how attractive you got in utah because it seemed like people had forgot about you and how you were this highly sought-after free agent.

Brad Stevens ends up in Boston. Was there any chance of you going anywhere else other than to rekindle with Brad Stevens again? Yeah, I mean, I think I took three visits. I took one to Miami, took one to Boston, and then met with the Utah guys in in San Diego and all three of them were um I think I remember calling my agent after all of them being like this is I'm I'm going here I went to Miami first and I remember calling him thinking like

this is the spot like well I don't have to let's cancel the other ones I'll just I'll just sign right now and you know he's like no no no no He's like, you're going to feel that way after all these. And so there's definitely a chance that I, you know, wouldn't have ended up in Boston. I think it was an unbelievably hard decision for me to make. But, you know, it was just familiarity with Brad, and I loved the way that the Boston team was set up, and I liked Danny a lot as well.

And so that's kind of then I just decided to make that decision. But there was very well could have ended up in the other two spots. What makes Brad Stevens such a good coach? What is it? Obviously, basketball IQ is something that everybody has to have if they're going to become an NBA head coach. What he did at butler was miraculous to say the least you thought they were a d2 school and you lived in indianapolis and then they go on this run what makes brad stevens such a good coach especially because there are some teams there that weren't great

that brad stevens literally coached to to victories what makes makes Brad so good at being a basketball head coach? Because he's so young, too. I mean, he looks like a child. Yeah. I mean, I think more than anything, and I always do this, everyone always asks me, like, what makes Brad such a good coach? And I think more than anything with him is his preparation, like his work ethic. Like, I mean, he works at it.

And I've never been around a coach that's more prepared than him. And he was the same way in college we would i i can remember in college going over plays because you have you have more time to prepare in college for teams you're only playing twice a week and i can remember um going over plays against um you know against our team and he would tell the other team okay this is how they're going to guard an out-of-bounds play um and so you guys have to guard like that and then he would bring us over and he'd drop a play and he'd say hey they're going to switch the first one so you're going to slip and then somebody's going to help over and then the the skip pass across is going to be wide open he's going to fall asleep on the back side and i'd take the ball out and i'm

thinking to myself like no way this works exactly like that sure enough that's exactly what would happen um and that comes from like like preparing watching the film like seeing exactly what they're going to do watching you know every clip that they've they've done in different situations and so when he gets into the the moment and he actually does that the call play or draw something like he's already done it in his head or we've already practiced it and so it's easy at that point in time so um certainly I think he's you know got some some natural um you know basketball iq he played but more than anything i think it's a preparation uh so you end up with boston back with brad stevens and it starts in a terribly unlucky fashion i mean just absolutely the worst possible thing happens and i don't want to pile on it. Obviously you had to live through it. That is nowhere near how you thought this new,

I mean, it's your dream coming true, right? A massive contract. Now you're in a massive city, you're in a storied franchise and boom, in the first quarter of everything, how your life is supposed to go in your next chapter of your life everything changes and now the focus becomes straight back to rehab and getting back on the court what has been the most challenging thing about that whole thing and you you literally stumbling out of the blocks here with boston both mentally and physically the rehab was probably terrible uh mentally it's probably tough to get over how has been the process of kind of dealing with that, both mentally and physically? Yeah, man, I can't lie about it.

It's been brutal, especially, like you said, I gave up a lot to come to Boston, and first game of the year, go down, and I've never had a bad injury like that, so that was the first one. year go down and I've never had a bad injury like that so that was the first one um and so you know thankful that we have the modern medicine that we do today to be able to you know get me back out on the court but also well to have a support staff that I had and you know having my wife and the girls to help you through it mentally because there's definitely times where you just you just

want to quit and um you're like this this isn't you know this isn't fun this isn't worth it but it's um it's a job and you get through it and i think probably the most frustrating thing was feeling like you know i got back on the court but not being able to you know do some of the things that I had remembered doing kind of my whole life. And then when I was in Utah and I think people also, so kind of that feeling of, okay, I'm back now, I should go right back to the way I was. And there's, I guess there was, people forget that I was, there was going to be an adjustment period, regardless of if I got hurt or not, because you're, you're coming to a new team, new players, new system, the whole deal.

And so on top of coming back from the injury, I had to deal with coming back and dealing with that stuff, the new system and new team. And so it certainly was very frustrating. And still doing my rehab exercises today on my ankle, and I think it's going to be something that I just deal with for the rest of my career. But, I mean, it's one of those things. It is what it is.

And you've got to try to just use it to make you stronger. You know, it's going to be exciting to get back out there again next year. Did it scare you whenever you came back? Did it scare you where you're like, you know what, I've never had that type of injury before. Now I know what's possible. Was there a mental hurdle that either you're still battling right now or whenever you were first getting back into it this past year, like, oh shit, this could happen again or something terrible could happen again.

Was that a mental hurdle that you were having? Yeah, it was definitely a little bit of a mental hurdle, basically trying to go into the paint and not just, you know, shoot a floater, like trying to attack bigs, trying to challenge them at the rim, going up for an alley-oop. I remember the first time that I went for an alley-oop and it was just in, you know, like with one other person, nobody else was on the court. And, you know, that took, um like i remember i went up the first time and then like i didn't jump and i was like okay hold on let me let me redo that let me let me try this again um i mean all those little things and uh then even when you're you're practicing like there's nothing like a game so getting back in front of the fans um being in front of you know the whole arena um and having the confidence to go and kind of finish and attack the basket like that was something that I didn't know was going to take as long as it did

and so for sure I was dealing with that at the beginning of the season and I think I'm at a point now where it just takes reps honestly there's reps of just doing it and doing it and doing it and you know I think falling down, getting bodied, and then landing on my foot awkwardly to where it's like, okay, yeah, no, it's fine. Like, you know, it's strong, it's healthy. Like, I don't need to worry about it anymore. But your mind has to go through those mental reps too, not just, you know, your ankle. I didn't even think about you having to adjust to a new team too.

Like, because the signing happens there and you don't even get a chance to kind of Joe. It's not like, okay, boys, when I get back, we're going to do exactly what we did. I didn't even think about that.

You, you compound that with the mental hurdle and the physical thing. It's no wonder that you struggled this past, not struggled, but I mean, you didn't have the year you had in Utah this past year and almost now there's a lot of drama in the NBA. I think the NBA might be the most drama-filled league of all time.

But now with all these things that are happening, moves and trades and opting out, you and Tatum are now the face of the franchise again. Is that something you're excited for, that type of challenge, to be like, hey, I'm the guy up here with Tatum and Brad, but, hey, I'm the guy of this storied franchise in Boston now. I don't care who wants to come play with us, who doesn't want to play with us. I have faith in the coach to be able to put a scheme together

for us to win, and I'm ready to ride. Is that kind of the mindset now that you're back and being the face of one of the most historical basketball franchises in the history of the game? You know what? I think for me, it's like I've been on a just, like just focused on trying to get myself the strongest, the fastest, the quickest I've ever been and not worrying about other things right now.

Like you said, man, the NBA, things can change like overnight. And so the draft, who knows what's going to happen. You got to really control what you can control. And for me, that's getting in there every morning, getting my work, my lift, doing my rehab when I'm at home, really trying to be really diligent about that stuff. And at the end of the day, it doesn't, for me, I'm just trying to help us win basketball games. I came to Boston to try to win an NBA championship, and that's still the ultimate goal.

Whether or not it's – it doesn't matter to me who's at the face of the team or anything like that. Like you said, I trust the organization to put a team together that can try to help us do that, and I trust the coaching staff and everybody that I'm working with. Like I said, man, I'm super excited to get back at it again next year. Who are some players on the Celtics? Because you got to watch a lot of the practices, I assume,

and got to watch a lot whenever you're injured. And even last year as you're trying to get back in it, who are some younger players that Celtics fans should be excited about that are going to potentially get some shine this upcoming year? Well, I think everybody saw a lot of our younger players in action. We had a, so our team was so deep. I think throughout the year, I think different guys had different times where they really shine. You know, I think certainly, like you just said, I mean, I don't know what our team's going to look like come next season. But I have had a chance. Rob Williams has been in the gym with me this summer,

and I think he's somebody that, you know, as long as he continues to work, there's definitely an adjustment when you are in college and then when you get to the NBA, you've got to learn how to have the right work ethic and how to be a professional. And I think he's somebody where the sky's the limit for him, man. I mean, he's, he's, he's long and athletic jumps effortlessly up, you know, to block shots or to catch lives. And he's somebody that I've been, like I said, I've been in the gym with, and, um, you know,

I'm hoping that he continues to work and continues to progress. And I think he can be, you know, a monster. Do you, you have a green, you get green text message. Do you have the internet on your phone? Do you ever look at reviews for phones or anything like that? Or do you just blindly go into the Apple store and just kick into it? Is that what you're about? I am blindly walking right towards the Apple.

And I don't like the Tim Cook era here. I'm a Steveve jobs guy i've been around since uh terrible dad steve jobs has run the whole thing uh brilliant mind but do you do you follow along with the drama or do you are you one of those guys who kind of lives in your own world and doesn't read the press clippings or anything like that um you're talking about the nba or yeah i'm'm talking about NBA. And I say this as a person who literally lives on the internet. The NBA has more bullshit associated with it whenever it comes to egos and drama

and then talking heads making up storylines and then this happening and this happening. Do you follow along with any of that or do you kind of just live in your own world? I got 45 kids. I just got to get better at basketball. Yeah, that's where I'm at. I mean, I have a Twitter and I have an Instagram and you'll see me post every once in a while, but I also have people that help me with that stuff. And so I had to get off of Twitter, especially when I got injured. That was one of the things for me is I was on Twitter and I was, you know,

reading what people are saying and the Instagram comments and all this stuff. And, you know, I was talking with a sports psychologist and we both kind of were like, let's just get you off of that stuff. Like, so I haven't, I don't follow any of that anymore. Like, I don't, I don't read any of the articles about our team. A lot of times, my friends text me and say, hey, did you just see this happen? I was like, no, I didn't.

You want to fill me in? I don't look at it at all. I'm looking at Disney World and what are the best rides that my girls are going on and what's the height requirement, which one's going to bitch the most, this or that. I mean, that's the stuff that I'm focused on. So, I mean, it's something that I just stay away from, the basketball side. The Avatar ride, by the way, is the one, man.

That ride is incredible. Yeah, that is true. That's very true. Flight of Passage. Oh, it's so good, dude. It is so good. I can't thank you enough, dude. You've been incredible.

There's a couple guys in the room who are massive fans. They have some questions as well. If you have like another two, three minutes, is that okay? Yeah, sure, man. Shoot. Appreciate you. Hey, Gordon, I'm a Hoosier as well. And growing up as a kid in Brownsburg, 5'11", your freshman year,

probably you were supposed to have a moderately successful college career and then a better career selling insurance after that. That's what usually happens, but you blossomed to 6'8". God had different plans for you. Do you consider yourself an underdog story? Do you consider yourself an underdog story? I mean, I kind of have always had like a chip on my shoulder. It seems like you play that way.

That's why I asked. Yeah, I mean, I think certainly, and not to bring in like the race card or anything, but there's just not very white Americans in the NBA. And I can remember my dad, I mean, that was my dream. And I wrote down my goals. I was too little to write it, so he actually wrote it so they were legible. And I wrote them all down, and the top one was like, you know, playing the NBA. And I can remember him saying, well, you know, my mom's 5'10", my dad is about 5'10", as well.

We don't have anybody in the family over 6'1". And so he was like, you know what, if you're going to make it, you're probably going to have to be like John Stockton or Steve Nash. And so that's what I was like, okay, that's what I'm going to do. I'm going to try to model the game after that. And, you know, through God, I ended up growing. I still don't know exactly where that came from. But still was never, like I said, never, wasn't a McDonald's All-American.

You know, wasn't that highly recruited at all, had three offers. You know, we were an underdog at Butler, even though we all felt like we weren't. And then in the NBA, everyone kind of wrote me off as a rookie and all that stuff. So for sure, I think, you know, even today, everyone is writing me off as, oh, he had this massive injury, he's not going to be the same player. And that's something that fuels me and drives me. So, yeah, I guess to answer your question, I do kind of have that mentality. That's awesome.

Yeah, love it. I am so impressed by the fact that, and it happened with me too, like spite is a motivator for me. It is. And I think even J.J. Watt, who's one of the most positive humans of all time, gave that commencement speech at Wisconsin. And he even made sure to mention like, Hey,

the negative comments can be something to motivate you as well. I think a lot more people who are professional athletes are driven, driven by haters. It's just always been like, uh, Oh, you're not supposed to read that. You're not supposed to acknowledge the fact that you see what the haters

say, or you hear what they say. But for me, it's the complete opposite. Like, I hear somebody say something, but I can't do something. And as cliche as it sounds, like, that makes me want to do that more than anybody else could imagine. And it's nice to hear that I'm not the only one now that people are more talking about it, Gordon. For sure. Anthony DiGilio has a question.

This guy, massive sports gambler not that that should affect how you answer his question but I'm assuming there's a chance it might be around that it's not a sport I won't do that I mean I won't tamper with the NBA I'm a stand up guy of course you are I want to know though like you and your teammates spend a lot of time with each other during the season

you ever just like had the urge to grab a globe and sit down with Kyrie and show him the shape of the earth and tell him it is in fact not a flat earth? Great question. Oh, man. I never got around to that one. We talked about a lot of things, but

I never went that direction. So, kind of let him think what he wants to think. If he does stick around, something to think about for next year. That's insane. For sure. I think he's trolling. He has to be trolling. That's about it.

Anybody else got one? I got one. Hey, Gordo, when was the last time you picked up a tennis racket, and could you have went pro with that 6'8 frame of yours? I think the last time I picked up a tennis racket seriously was probably three years ago in Utah in a tournament in Utah. Actually, a tournament, which was pretty cool. Atta boy.

Atta boy. Congratulations, man. It wasn't against the best competition. I think for the most part, my tennis game is always overhyped. But it would have been interesting to see if I would have only played tennis how far I could have gone. That would have been fun. Hey, Mr. Hayward, quick question here.

Do they judge you for being a gamer and an athlete? I think initially they did when I first started in the NBA. I think everybody plays video games now. It's more like the staff of the NBA? In that community. Yeah, yeah. That community, they love me. I don't think I get judged for it anymore.

My wife certainly judges me. We all saw that video with you in Dr. Respect there. I heard your wife yelled at you for gaming. Is that correct? That's true. I think there's a clip of it online. Oh, yeah, actually. You have seven kids.

You're a professional basketball player, and you find time to be an incredible gamer. You're an immaculate and, sorry, a champion tennis player as well. I mean, you're an incredible human, an incredible species. I can't wait to see what you do for the Celtics next year and for the years to come. Thank you so much for joining us, man. Indiana's proud to have you, man. You're an absolute stud, and you should thank your wife for getting you to that barber. I think it's made you a much better

human. For sure. Hey, thanks for having me on. I just want to say I listen to your guys' show all the time. It's hilarious, so keep it up. Hey, I appreciate you, brother. I can't thank you enough. Good luck. Enjoy training. Ladies and gentlemen, although he wasn't an All-American, he's an All-American in my heart. From Brownsburg, Indiana, Boston Celtics star and face of the franchise,

Gordon Hayward. Thank you, guys. All right. See you guys. Thank you, Gordon, so much. You noticed that when he was talking, you asked him about the young players. I wanted to see what his – he wouldn't even mention Tatum or them because nobody knows who the fuck is going to be on the Celtics next year.

Yeah, and he doesn't want to get caught up in saying like, oh, I like this guy, and then they trail away. And the NBA drama is a real thing. They would be like, oh, they trail away the only guy that Gordon Hayward likes. Hey, there's a microphone right there he's not he's he's not always here go ahead gumpy was really hoping he was gonna say he wanted to be the leader of that team well i think if you say that though just like with everything else we're talking about with the drama of the nba as soon as he says that that becomes a headline gordon hayward says now i'm the leader of the team which kind of but i, I didn't even

mean to put him in a gotcha situation there, but it does feel like whenever he's answering every question, it's like everything I say I know could potentially be taken a different way, and that's good for NBA that they're that active. NBA Twitter's that active. The talking heads are that active. It's good for business, but for the players, you

really got to watch your ass with everything you say. Especially because this year, I believe, because this year is like the perfect storm. I believe I saw that 40% of the NBA is a free agent this summer. So he has no idea who he's going to be playing. Great business for the NBA, by the way, to have 40%. I mean, the talking heads in the conversation around the NBA never stops. I hate how dramatic it is, but that's kind of the world we live in these days. I like Gordon Hayward. He was really cool in that game.

He was awesome. You alluded to it, too. He didn't have a great year last year, at least by his standards. So I think he's much more focused on, hey, I want to go out and prove that I should be that guy as opposed to just coming out and making that blanket statement. And he does dominate by spite, he said.

So this entire offseason, he's dealing with those kids and figuring out how to get back on top. And won't say because he's a gentleman he won't tell everybody to go fuck themselves but whenever he's back on top i i'm sure there's going to be quite a moment there when he lays his head on the pillow at night like a lot of people wrote me off again and here i am good for gordon hayward and not to beat a dead shark but the best part about the nba they don't give a fuck what videos you put of their sport on online well this year too are you talking about the usga yeah this year too there's way more questions than answers with the celtics every other year in free agency they're a big player

this year all they know is kairi and horford are gone and they're not like no big free agents brad stevens is such a good. There isn't a lot of people. And I'm not saying that because I watched what he did at Butler. I'm talking about just as a person who watches the NBA, I pay attention to the NBA Twitter, but they were winning a lot of games. They weren't supposed to win. Oh yeah.

So if you have a guy who can really coach, which they have in a couple of studs, like Tatum, like Gordon Hayward, if he gets back to form, I mean, they could be a good team. And I saw it with the Pacers.

The Pacers do it whenever they were taking on the heat every single year. It's like if you get a good coach in there, Frank Vogel is a great coach. And him and Brad Stevens, I'm assuming are friends. They seem like pretty similar individuals. But I think they there was a quiet confidence there from Gordon Hayward about like, we don't

give a single damn about anything that's happening right now. You get us on a court, we got a about like, we don't give a single damn about anything that's happening right now. You get us on a court. We got a good coach. We got a good scheme. We can win anything. I think for sure he's going to end up in Indiana before his career's over. Back with the Pacers? Sure, man. Why not? Hometown kid. Great story. Tomlin always told me he was going to wait till I got old and cheap and bring me back to Pittsburgh to see if the Pacers do that with Gordon Hayward.

Did you go through the same thing with injuries, like that mental period? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But not for me. It wasn't during the season. It was always in OTAs or in training camp or in preseason because mine were always knee things, right? And when you're kicking, it's a lot of knee stuff. So I'd be like half swinging it,

and the ball would be going pretty good. It would have kept me a job with a half swing, but if I really wanted to go, I had to really, in my head head be like, all right, I'm going to really swing at this, potentially blow my knee back out again. Whenever all the doctors were like, no, no, no, your knee's good. You just got to go for it. You just got to go for it. But in the back of your mind, you're like, yeah, if I go for it, then I got to go through a surgery again. I got to do that. It really is a mental block. And people just assume because they play video games and you see other people come back from injuries. But I think all professional athletes that go through a surgery have that

mental block where they're like, man, I do not want to blow this out again because there's a lot of money on the line. There's a lot of pressure on the line. There's another rehab stint that has to go through. So it's a real, it is a real hurdle. I had it with my knees, which is a much smaller situation than having a blown ankle in basketball when everything revolves around jumping and running. But it is something that you really got to battle. That's why I was so intrigued to ask him

because I didn't even think about not even gelling with your teammates. I don't think anyone did. Didn't even think about it at all. Oh, you know what? Yeah, this guy hurt himself. He comes back to form. He'll be good. It was was like didn't even think about him never playing with those guys before that and not necessarily any of them rooting for him to come back because he's taking playing time for you and money you've kind of been in the other side of that coin when you had

high price free agents coming to the colts facility and a couple of them got hurt and didn't play and then it kind of changes the way you think about someone unless they can come back and contribute. Unless they work their ass off to come back. There were some people that got hurt and then it seemed like they just didn't care. So all they did was just scrape off our salary cap, make us a worse team. And it's like, well, this guy, what is this guy doing?

What is this guy doing? It sounds like Gordon Hayward feels like he owes the Boston Celtics. And that's a cool thing to have. I hope they do well. I'm very thankful he came on. And it was him, I think. Yeah, I think so. I think it was.

I think it was 5%. Maybe. Green text messages. Well, apparently he does research on his phone. I mean, he's a techie type of guy. He's not subliming. Right. That's what he said.

How about him just saying I'm a cult guy, too? Just blindly go to Apple. Fucking take it easy, Corey. I would argue it's the other way, that people who are grandstanding that you need to get a Google Pixel or something, that's the cult right there. Hey, sports psychologists, by the way, meeting with sports psychologists, also a pretty big thing. That happens with a lot of professional athletes.

Not a lot of people are open with it either, so I was very thankful that he said that because all professional athletes, they don't want to show weakness, right? A weakness means they could potentially be cut. It means that they could potentially fail. It means they're not these superstars that a lot of people make them out to be. Him being like, I had to meet with a sports psychologist is really cool of him, by the way. Very humble of him to admit that. Is that kind of like the yips? Is that what they call it? Like when you get the yips? Yeah. The yips is whenever you start getting like paralysis by analysis. When you start overthinking everything, the mental hurdle could be a type of yip, I guess, but more so that's with technique.

Normally the yips come through a technique thing when you're overthinking, when you're like, okay. It's like him doing the alley-oop thing. That's kind of the yips essentially. Right. Like Lester not being able to throw to first base. That's more of the yips essentially right like lester lester not being able to throw to first base that's more of a mental hurdle a yip is like whenever you're going to shoot like let's say he goes into a a cold streak so he has a coach tell him like okay you got to keep your elbow tight you got to go go up into a cookie jar you got to jump at this point you got to release at this point so then whenever he's getting the ball as soon as he gets the ball all he's thinking is like

okay i gotta jump and then at this point i gotta do this and at this i gotta do this and this and again and you're overthinking it. And then you get to the point where you're overthinking everything. You can't do anything more. Charles Barkley's golf swing is the perfect example of that at the beginning of Charles Barkley's golf yips. And I'm happy he's out of it. All he was trying to do is make his golf swing better. Right? So people forget that. So he became the worst golfer on earth, but how that started was him asking somebody, how do I make this better? Them giving him him things and then all of a sudden it all just kind of you start thinking about them all and then it all just becomes a mental fuckery in there that's a yip

a mental hurdle is something that when you come out of an injury a yip is more like whenever you're overthinking everything and it's just kind of becoming a debauch and i think it's exaggerated in his case because I think his strength is his mental toughness or was his mental toughness. You know what I mean? That's what separated him from everybody else. He outworked you.

He came at you hard. And when you have that little bit of doubt, it's different than, like, if you're Durant and you're just a better athlete than everybody else on the floor. Yeah, or Brum Brum. Well, and it makes sense, too. Like, if you've never had any type of injury before and then you have like basically the worst possible one a basketball player can suffer like i mean

it makes sense that you would need someone to like kind of work because you're through that you really think and i asked in my question i said it i was like you think like oh no that that can happen to me so like you kind of have this invincible feel and then you're like oh no i just learned that that can happen to me. That could be something that's tough, especially as a tennis player. Ankles for tennis players are a pretty important thing. I mean, you're literally running, sliding the whole thing. So he probably had this feeling where his base, his core, everything was just locked

in. And then once you realize like, oh shit, it can go wrong. That can become something you get. I can't wait to see him. It sounds like he said he's over it, which is awesome for him, awesome for the Celtics, awesome for his future. I'm excited to watch him next year. And friend of the show, fan of the show, handsome Gordon Hayward.

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Speaking of making the world a better place, that dude that was practicing bunning and broke his nose, what the fuck happened? Scherzer? Yeah. What happens when you're acting like an asshole when you're doing it? Yeah, you got all lackadaisical, showing off, like, look at this, I'm going to slap you.

The guy's fucking 40 feet away, he's still throwing probably 70 miles an hour. Like, you still got to bun it. Scherzer, just because you go to Cy Young doesn't mean you can't lay down and bunt? So what happened here? So that guy was just so lackadaisical. Because I've taken BP

in a professional baseball game. I've been in the batter's box. I understand it's no game whenever you're staring down the end of a barrel which happens to be from a human's arm. BP was technically my only time to ever practice batting. So I was taking it very serious.

But that's normally just a fuck around session there? No. He's a pitcher, and he plays in the National League, so he has to bat, but he's typically just sack button. He's just laying bunts down. Also, normally when you take BP, normally your first two to four pitches are always bunts. Bingo.

I didn't do that. You were swinging for the fence. But a lot of people would realize you practice how you play, and they try to actually bunt how they would bunt in a live batting situation. He literally just threw it out there. Scherzer's normally a very, very serious dude, too, so it was surprising to see.

Well, I liked that he was having a little fun then, and there with the boys. He broke his nose. Broke his nose. It's going to be tough to do. I can't believe in 2019, after all these years, with the success of designated hitters, that the American League and National League haven't come together

and just been like, yep, we're doing a designated hitter thing. I mean, Big Papi is literally the hero of the city. It's the selling point for the National League. They try and say that you have to be a better manager because there's more double switches and such in the National League, and they don't want to give that up. No idea what that means. Couldn't even guess what that means, and I'm a professional baseball player.

But I think the game would be better, right? And by the way, I think the designated hitter should be allowed to take whatever steroid they want. The designated hitter should be the designated roid guy. Yeah, whatever he wants. I think he should be allowed to take whatever he wants. If you need Mark McGuire, Barry Bonds bonds sammy sosa uh roger clemens even yeah just redo the 90s though for designated hitter put them on every single team this alongside being able to gamble at the

stadium on an app for every single pitch makes baseball the number one sport in america again let's wait until the donkey gets up here. It's a fucking donkey show. Oh, who's the designated hitter on the team? The guy that's 350 pounds with a six pack. And whenever he gets up to bat, it's going to be a show. I think that would make baseball absolutely incredible.

Pitchers aren't allowed to beam them. Beam half, is it bean or beam? Beam, beam. Either way. Down the pipe. Plunk. Pl plunk they have to pitch to him like i think that should be a rule you can't just walk the the steroid freak that's about to bomb some balls i yeah exactly i think that would make baseball awesome i can't believe this scherzer guy uh even has the chance to break his nose. I know nothing about baseball, but I know the only reason he's there is just to throw the fucking ball. So what are we even doing?

I can respect the history of the game, but I also would like to be entertained a little bit. Very well said. Thank you. Very well said. I mean, I'm a professional baseball player. I think what I say should be taken a little bit more serious than it ever has been. I wore metal studs in an AstroTurf field. I pretty much know exactly what I'm talking about. You look good, though. They did look great. They did. I wore metal studs in an AstroTurf field. I pretty much know

exactly what I'm talking about. They look good, though. They look good. They did look great. They did. I wore cocaine whites. And we also didn't know what kind of surface

you were going to be playing on. We had no idea. Brett Favre came out and said he was going to return and deleted his tweet, but that's already out there, Brett. Don't know how to get that one back. Can't wait to talk to him

next week in the Bahamas to ask him what the fuck happened here. He said he got hacked. You think he learned his lesson? He said he got hacked? Yeah. He happened here. He said he got hacked. You think he learned his lesson? He said he got hacked? Yeah. He came out today. He said he got hacked.

So you hacked Brett Favre. And I guess that would be the first thing you would think is that guy's coming out of retirement. Or. Yeah, we know the other thing. We don't need to talk about that. No, no, no. We don't. We don't.

We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't. We don't. I'm happy that the hacker had a little compassion and just made fun of the retirement thing. And also, I bet you Brett Favre would still come out and sling it.

Oh, guaranteed. You see him in the Wrangler commercials? Absolutely. In muddy conditions, by the way. In very muddy conditions, he's throwing it to terrible receivers. He's got copper fit on his side. And copper fit on his wrist,

his elbow, and his knees. I've seen him at CVS in the must-see on TV thing. He has been working out with Jerry Rice. I mean, you saw that. I saw the AAFL too. Brett Favre is all pro in that AAFL. Day one, those quarterbacks were garbage in there.

I would assume he'd come play in the XFL, and I'd assume he could be a backup in the NFL if he wanted to be. He's just choosing not to. So I got excited whenever that tweet came. I'm like, hey, Favre, the NFL could use you, bud. For sure. We get a chance to talk to him next week. We'll chat about that.

It's come out that President Trump hates coughing and sneezing. This is one of my favorite things any human's ever said. As a person who sneezes and enjoys sneezing, by the way, I enjoy a good sneeze. I enjoy a good cough to clear the throat. I watched that video of him in Papalopolis. Is that his name? Yeah. Close enough.

You get it. Pop-a-doc. Him. Popolos. What was that? Popolos. That's the second half of his name, I think. Yeah.

At a pop in front of that. Popolos. I watched a video of him interviewing him in the Oval Office and his chief of staff coughing in the background in an attempt to discourage Trump from continuing to talk and Trump potentially kicking him out of the office, almost firing him immediately. One of my favorite moves in the history of anything.

I just, I enjoy it. It's just hilarious. If you view him as a character, I understand there's a lot going on, a lot of power there. Great heel. The best heel of all time he has come out from people that have worked around him that he he actually says that coughing and sneezing are a sign of weakness and do not even think about doing them around him is he saying he's never coughed or sneezed before if that's the case it's like the jim kong farting this dude is a super human if

he's never coughed or sneezed before i don't know how you stop yourself from sneezing i have no idea how that happens but i would love to be in the room when somebody accidentally did it and trump just losing his mind i that cough moment he he was in the middle of a real answer it was like a minute a minute and a half into the real answer somebody from his team coughs and you just he's still talking and it's just it's like when somebody's eating into an apple around me you see it like in his head like you just want to stop and snap somebody's neck and he has we're gonna redo that in my fucking back that's incredible i've never heard of anybody hating this i've never heard of anybody in in the history believing that sneezing and coughing are a sign of weakness.

I might start viewing it that way. It might be a new office procedure. Coffee sneezes go down like 20%. That is not good for me. Big cougher. Yeah, I think me too. I don't know how you don't. Goddamn allergies.

Leaking down my nose into my throat all goddamn day. How do you stop yourself from sneezing? You can stop a sneeze occasionally if you put your finger in front of your nose. That sometimes works. But still, you're just eating it, really, and it's going to come back. Well, when you hold a sneeze in, too. I had a coach in college. He had an aneurysm because he held a sneeze and almost died.

That's a real story. That's a real story. I don't know how. For me, it's just hilarious to think. Watch that video of him just looking at the guy. Get out if you're going to sneeze, okay? He literally said, in my backswing, basically, when I was referring to policies.

I think it was his financial statement he was talking, and he just stopped. It's his guy, too. It would be like Foxy. It would be me giving an answer and foxy just grabbing an apple and just chewing it in my ear let me just stopping and looking at him get the fuck out of here you want to redo that entire answer because this guy trying to get some vitamins here right it was awesome uh the mechanism my brain where you think about something before you say it is

dead today so you just like say it you just say it and then you think about something before you say it is dead today. So you just say it. You just say it and then you think about what you said. That's awesome. Like a word problem. My life is one big word problem. Still going. Are you ever going to get the answer? I don't know. Every fucking day there's two ducks

on this side, there's one wolf on this side of the river. What are you going to do today, Tony? Stay away from the wolf. It's difficult. You've got to get them all on the same side. Are you fucking giving life advice? Yeah. That was an easy one right there.

Stay away from the wolf. Can we ask Zito that question? The real version of that question. Yeah, stay away from the wolf. I don't think I know what you're talking about. Is this a logic question? Yeah, I've got to find it. I've got to remember the exact words. I like these a lot me too by the way i feel like i'm probably

pretty good just to preface it before he finds it it's something like you have a wolf and two ducks the wolf will eat the ducks you gotta get all to this side you have one boat oh it's like you have the fucking four lights light switches outside thing how do you turn on all the lights inside without that whole type of thing? I don't like these types of questions. All right, we'll scratch it. No, no, no. I would like to hear it,

but I don't do well at these. I don't do well at these. Okay, you ready, Zeke? Yeah, can I write stuff down or not? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me say you're A. It's encouraged. You are, yes, encouraged to take notes. Maybe even draw a picture

because that'll help too. I actually just drew a river. Sam, smart. That's a good start. Jose Perez using a pen, not planning on making any mistakes. Go ahead. It's confidence. A farmer wants to cross a river and take with him a wolf, a goat, and a cabbage.

There is a boat that can fit himself plus either the wolf, the goat, or the cabbage. If the wolf and the goat are alone on one shore, the wolf will eat the goat. If the goat and the cabbage are alone on the shore, the goat will eat the goat. If the goat and the cabbage are alone on the shore, the goat will eat the cabbage. How can the farmer bring the wolf, the goat, and the cabbage across the river? The farmer eats the cabbage, puts the wolf across, and he comes back for the goat

and brings the goat back. And then he shits out the cabbage on the other side. Yep, got it. Final answer. Suck it. I'm with you, Zito. Nailed it. I mean, the logic is airtight. I can't argue with that. Yeah, we know. Hey, good for us. Look at us. I'm with you, Zito. Nailed it. The logic is very tight. I can't argue with that. Yeah, we know. Hey, good for us. Look at us. I got one of those. Alright. It's really quick. If you know it,

don't say the answer, but a boy and his father are going up a winding road in the mountains. What mountain? Winding road. Not important. Winding road in the mountains. And boom. The truck that they're in goes over the cliff. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do. The father is dead.

His son barely hanging on to life. Helicopter comes in. I know, I know. It's just a logic question. Yep, yep, no. It's a negative. Helicopter comes in, airlifts the boy to the hospital, to the surgery room. They get in there.

The doctor is all scrubbed up, ready to go. And he goes, I can't. The doctor's like, I can't operate on this boy. It's my son. The mother is the doctor is all scrubbed up ready to go and he goes i can't the doctor's like i can't operate on this boy it's my son the the mother is the doctor i just said tony don't say a fucking word if you know it i don't know it what do you mean i had it on my paper mother it's just easy you didn't know that by the way that's horseshit i'm calling bullshit on oh gorman just because we're not all just ridiculously sexist unbelievable Unbelievable that you would assume that. I mean, there are women doctors. I understand that, but that old... Do you? I do. I understand it.

Hell, yes, I do. I wouldn't let one operate on me, but I understand that. It's not true at all. It's not true at all. You didn't deserve that, Gorman. You got buried there. You guys don't remember this, but I had spinal cord surgery. I mean, clinging tos. I mean, you got buried there. You guys don't remember this, but I had spinal cord surgery.

I mean, clinging to life. I mean, clinging to life. Surgeon? Woman. Wow. Look at that. Right here. Look at you.

Made it, too. Yeah, can't golf. Nah, but still. I can still do logic questions. Gorman, I have a question for you. Sir. Favorite place you've ever visited in your entire life? Well, Tony mentioned something earlier.

I had a chance a couple years ago to Jackson Hole, Wyoming. It was paradise up there. That's where all the super wealthy people live, right? Yeah, that's awful beautiful. And not even a close second, I'm going to go 1A, 1B. It would be Mont Hutt, New Zealand. Just real quick. You said not even a close second, 1A, 1B. No, no. I mean, a close second. I'm going to go 1A, 1B. It would be Mont Hutt, New Zealand. Just real quick. You said not even a close second, 1A, 1B.

No, no. I mean a close second. I'm sorry. There's 1A, 1B. I love Jackson Hole, just everything. When I visited it that time of year, I don't want to go there in the winter, you know, all that. But Mont Hutt, New Zealand was absolute paradise.

New Zealand is like Australia, just closer. Yeah. Right? And smaller of an island. Yep. What's your favorite place? I don't know. That's what I was in my head. i was trying to figure that out while you were doing the mountain description thing in my head i was like i haven't been really on a mountain in a long time and i started thinking

like beautiful places i've been i don't know i like beaches a lot i like just staring at the ocean mindlessly that's saint uh croy place i went to i was on one of them uh I was on one of them things out in the water. The underwater is like the floor is glass. Sam and I went and did that. That was incredible. It's always weird to me that you like the beach, but you don't like the water. You're just looking at it and thinking. I'm the same way. I can't swim worth a shit.

I'd like to go in town, though. You work on ships, dude. You work on ships. You live on an island. It's a in town, though. But you work on ships, dude. You work on ships. So if you fall in. You live on an island. It's a dry dock, man. Trying to get off the island. It's impossible. America's never going to let you do that.

But are you a big sand guy? You're on the island. You're off the island. I don't fucks with the sand much either. I mean, I'll just stare at it. I think that's why I like the thing so much. Because I was out in the water. By the way, I can swim now again. Remember, I was- You haven't yet though right no i haven't tested it just because that's like coming back from an injury exactly a little

mental hurdle like we talked to old buddy there earlier i because that doctor hadn't had to go through what i've got to go through whenever my water's under in my ear for fucking two weeks and i can't sleep you know but i i But I think a beach is cool. I didn't mind. Morocco was awesome. Mostly because you appreciate America so much when you're there. You're like, you know what? I fucking love America. That made me feel pretty good. Next time you're going on vacation,

we went there for one of our president's clubs. Nice little island, St. Kitts and Nevis. We stayed at obviously where we're paying, the Fairmont there or whatever. Beautiful. Check it out. I don't know.

Is that in the Caribbean? Yes. They're all kind of the same to me in the Caribbean. It's all kind of the same to me, but it's a beautiful view down there. I like a powdery sand beach, but I don't like, like one time I went to Sanibel in Florida and it's like just broken shelves. Well, that's the worst. And I'm like, this is the fucking worst beach I've ever seen in my life.

And in the pictures, they don't tell you that. No. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's bullshit. Walking on glass. That is bullshit, isn't it? Has anyone ever in here been hit by a jellyfish ever? No.

No. And you had to pee on yourself, right? Did you? I've never done it, no. I've always been scared. You were on a cruise ship. You were probably in a lot of places. Yeah.

Well, actually, just Virgin Islands, but. Oh, you just went through Virgin Islands? Every time? Is America's the best or is British? America. That sounded like that wasn't a word. Was it the U.S. Virgin Islands or the British Virgin Islands? The American Virgin Islands.

Okay. The U.S. Virgin Islands. The American version of the Virgin Islands. Yes. St. Martin. To a degree. Jamaica, basically, I think is on there. I don't think Jamaica is a U.S. Virgin Islands.

That was one of the islands we went to, though. It was Jamaica, St. Martin, Dominican. And then the Carnival Personal Island. Yeah. That Carnival Personal is such a fucking hustle, man. So you can only get drinks from this one place, $14.50 a pop. Yep.

And it's going directly to Carnival. You bought an island strictly to do that. Strictly to it, not a bad play. Gorms, where's the best Club Med you've ever been to?

Now we're talking. Club Med. C-L-U-B-M-E-D. Probably Columbus Isle in the Bahamas. Oh. Yeah.

Because it was scuba centered, so I was all over. Oh, yeah. I want to get into that, by the way. Yeah, it was really cool. I want Yeah Because it was scuba centered So I was all over Oh yeah I want to get into that By the way Yeah it was really cool I want to get into the scuba diving

Strictly because of the Instagram videos That I see of people Just swimming next to these Epic Yes Closest thing you get to be An astronaut man You definitely need to check out

Your ears for that Yeah you gotta It's like being in space Yeah Oh I've heard it's incredible Michael Cole Announcer for the WWE

Is a certified scuba guy. He plans all of his trips, not that he ever gets any, but they're strictly around scuba. And I guess people really fall in love with it. Like, it's their thing. Remember the name Jerry Garcia? Yeah. Lead singer of the Dead? Yeah.

Who is, by the way, dead. Oh, come on. He said, hey, man. And he kind of talked like this, man. And he went, hey, man, I've done a lot of drugs in my life and taken a lot of trips, but nothing like scuba diving. Why is that? It's just a cool thing?

You're in an aquarium. Weightless. You got everything around you. This is awesome. You had headaches, though, right? No. It's dangerous, too, right? Well, you go too deep.

You come up. Yeah, you get the bends, too, if you come up too deep. If you go too deep. It's all controlled breathing, too. You get air bubbles in your blood. Yeah, compression, right? You can't be... Has anybody in here scuba-dived other than Gorman?

Todd. I was on a scuba... No, but we've watched enough scuba movies. I was on a scuba team. No, but I'm saying Todd wasn't answering the questions. Diggs, Zeno, everybody else was answering these questions that I really had. People that have never scuba dived in their lives. I was just enjoying the answers.

Some right, some wrong. I was about to the point like, has everybody in here a fucking scuba professional? Hey, but I was in the Caribbean, and to Todd's defense on this, but it's like, oh, look at the shark. Look at the swimming starfish. Hey, look at that turtle. Oh, the coral reef.

It's beautiful. But your scuba was a little bit different. Just dead bodies. Dirty water. Swamps and lakes. The White River. Yeah, looking for dead bodies. Stone quarries.

But what's cool, I'm dying. If we ever go, I want to go as well. I'm dying to go in the ocean where I can see for a long way. But what's even cool about Indiana water and water around here is it's got to be amplified by a thousand when you're in the ocean. But you just know I'm in an environment I'm not supposed to be. Like this world down here, I am not supposed to be able to do this. But I am.

So you're just seeing all that shit for the first time. It's fucking great. I have a recommendation for your first scuba. Go to a place where it's an underwater cave. So you've got a scuba to get under the cave, but when you get up into the cave, you just take your scuba gear off and walk around. See all the stalagmites and stuff like that.

Is this a documentary you watch? No, no. It just happens. And those coral reefs? Diggs, you have never scuba dived before. No, but I've seen a lot of them on the cruise ship. That was a classic situation in Baywatch. This guy, Diggs has answered four questions about scuba diving,

and now he's giving recommendations. I'll say I'm in the same boat there. The DeGiglio's always picked. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You were the other guy answering the questions that I was referring to earlier. There's never scuba diving. But I used to sell those excursions. Oh, so I know the questions they ask me.

Osmosis. The DeGiglio's always picked the Booze Cruise catamaran over the scuba. But I always read the brochure. Nobody ever picks with a scuba diving brochure. No. It's a big commitment because you probably have to get recertified, right? Yeah, I definitely would. How long does that take to drop you in a hotel pool, right?

Technically, you don't because I was advanced open water, so it lasts for life. But I wouldn't feel comfortable. But I would again. A guy like Slapdick like me, you're going out there, not like a professional like you. I'd have to get PADI certified again, which is, by the way, tough because they're going to force you to 20 foot underwater. You've got to take all your gear off and put it back on. My brother did it. He had to go out in the lake and do it.

Yeah, take the thing out. I get all my breath pretty good. I've got good lung capacity, so I feel pretty good about that. I just don't think I'd like the pressure that it's probably going to put on my head you just gotta you have to you have to clear you know what you want to do for you're descending you want to go train in a pool for a little bit first and practice on buoyancy buoyancy control because that's why you really like it will improve your diving experience the better off you are establishing neutral buoyancy and that'sancy. You have a little air thing

on your vest. You just hit it when you want air to inflate. There's a valve for letting that out. You get it to a point where you just float without moving up or down. Then you can control yourself. I sink like a fucking rock.

You're wearing a weight belt. They'll put a weight belt on you. I don't need one. I go right to the bottom. That fucking swim a weight belt. They'll put a weight belt on you too. I don't need one. I go right to the bottom. I mean, that fucking swim class we had in high school was a nightmare. There's people that can float and stuff like that. Not me. I go right down. And I think that would ruin my experience.

Well, you just want to get good at it because then you can get like where you hover like a foot above the ground without crashing into it and disturbing shit. You just have a better time. You know what I mean? All these people on the internet, they just swim right up to sharks, by the way. And they pet them. They're like petting them and stuff like that. Those are whale sharks.

Yeah, very docile creatures. No teeth. They'll just gum you. Who was the first person to scuba dive? Like, how brave was that guy? Great question. Jacques Cousteau. Is that real?

No. Famous explorer Jacques Cousteau. I used to know this, actually. Like, that guy was so brave to go down there with just that fucking mask thing. Yeah. Michael Cole told me that there's checks on top of checks. You have numerous things for air. Because that's the first thing I told him.

I was like, so you're just relying on one little thing. It's like when you went skydiving. I was just banking on that guy making minimum wage who packed that backpack for me to do it right. And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's also an emergency thing that comes flying out. And whenever we went out, as we were boarding the plane, the group in front of us, one of the people had to use the emergency chute.

Freaked me out. I'm like, what are we doing here? And you see all the instructors, they go looking up, right? They're excited something's happening. It isn't just the boring standard float around. Like, oh, emergency chute was used. And I'm like, is this happening regularly?

No, no. And my dad goes, well, it ain't going to happen again. Fuck it. And my dad's like, are you gambling with me? Yeah, he forced us into the fucking area. I'm like, I just don't know if I like this. Tim McAfee, first one off the plane. Obviously.

So I'm off the- By himself? I'm in the back. No, he had a guy on his back. I'm in the back of the plane. You McAfee first went off the plane. Obviously. So I'm off the- By himself? I'm in the back. No, he had a guy on his back. I'm in the back of the plane. You're kind of tucked in there like sardines. And Tim McAfee's front right side, I'm back left side. So you-

All the way up. And it's a miserable plane. I mean, it's a fucking miserable plane. And then a green light goes off, and then they just pull back the side of the plane. And you're like, holy shit. And they they're like you were at 13 500 feet and i just look up and i see my dad is gone no there's no words my dad's gone i'm like oh he's dead for sure and then everybody else phil went a couple other people went boom boom boom and they do they do all this practice on the ground they have you up in like this uh it's like a um what's those things that people you like a tree house you're in like

a fake little tree house thing where they have you sit up there and they're like this is what you're gonna do you're gonna go you're gonna put your your feet over the edge of the plane and you're gonna tuck your feet back and the guy behind you is going to rock you one, two. And then on the third time, you're both going to commit to going out and then you tuck your feet up in your hands up and that'll bounce you out. And then you fall for like 45 seconds to a minute and then he'll give you a tap and then he'll pull the thing. I'm like, okay, sounds good. And whenever we checked in, the weight limit was a stern 225 stern 225 weight limit and i get there and it's for one of my dad's birthdays i think it was his 50th or 40th birthday i took him up there and we get there and uh

reading the rules and we're checking in and we decided to do it literally the night before so i didn't sleep at all i had not a single moment of sleep i'm like this is a bad idea my dad's always wanted to do it but i mean this is fucking what if i kill my dad on his birthday so we get there we go do the check-in they have these lists of rules like 225 is the max you can go and i'm like okay good i'm 230 so like you guys can go i'm just gonna hang out here and this little fucking tiny guy little old guy goes uh get on the scale and i'm like i was already on it bud 230 like your fucking rule is it's not my fault and i stand on a scale he grabs my hand and he lifts my hand up until it says 224.9 and he goes we'll go together and then walks away and i was like no no no no no no like

there's a rule for a reason there and uh and everybody's like all right here we go into this room now we got to learn about what we're going to do so i'm like who's we like i i am too heavy they're like no you're gonna fly with that guy i'm like oh i hate that guy and now i got strapped to my fucking back so you go into this room and they show you this video and it's this guy with his long ponytail and he said death or die probably 10 times in the first 90 seconds and everybody in our group just turned it. We're like, all right, I don't want to listen to this fucking guy for real.

And they're like, you have to watch like you, it's legally, you have to watch. I'm like, Oh, is that right? Cause the legal out there is 225 pounds.

I didn't know we were so strict with rules these days. So I'm watching the video, death, death, die, death, death, die,

death, death sign. You got it, we fucking sign it. So then they take us out to this treehouse thing, and they do the, they sit down, you had to get past this little course on how you're supposed to exit the plane. And then you go into the lobby and wait till it's your turn, and they get you all suited and booted. We walk out there, as we're walking out to the plane, that emergency chute comes down. So everything is going wrong, in my eyes. I'm like, I'm a guy that likes to i i trust fortune cookies right i trust fortune absolutely i trust signs from the universe every sign here was saying that i

shouldn't do this but you know what fuck it my dad turned 50 good for him so we get on the plane we go all the way up there whatever my dad My dad just gets dumped off the plane. See you, dad. Happy birthday. You're never going to see another fucking moment of breath again. So then it gets all the way up to my, I see my friends doing the rocking and going out. Phil does, I think Phil and the guy got into it a little bit because something,

the rocking wasn't timed. Like he was going forward, the guy was going back. So it was like a little moment. And I started laughing. I'm like, of course, Phil with this guy has to get into it. And then then they go and then i'm the last one on the plane just me and the little guy that fucking did the thing right and he goes in my ear he's like are

you ready buddy i'm like no man we can just shut this like they're already there like there's nothing they can do he's like no you're gonna love it and he like he's like scooting me this little guy he's like a little tiny guy he's like scooting me with his hips like pushing me up to the window and i like go to get ready to do the little tree house thing. And he just dumps me out of the plane. Literally, there was no, my fucking, my ass was still in the plane. Like my head almost hit the side of it. And there was a video.

I'm going straight down, like straight down to earth for like the first 10 seconds. And then we flatten out, right? And as soon as I flatten out, my glasses almost get shot off my face, right? So I'm just like sitting there. And then finally, I'm just staring at the earth and I'm flying. I'm like, oh, this is pretty cool. This is a pretty awesome little thing.

This is like a bird. And then you're watching earth just get bigger and bigger. And I had the moment where I was like, I think I could die here. Like, you know, like it was, it was like a free, like it was really free, free feeling. And then the guy, he's like, he's screaming at me.

He's like, how's it going? And I'm like, it's good, you know? And there's a camera person in front of my face, but they didn't catch up till late because we were fucking nose diving for the first 10 seconds or whatever. Probably a couple thousand feet were falling. So that person comes, I waved to my mom because she didn't go there. And then he gives me the tap for the time to pull the chute. And in my head, I was like, oh, this is the weight limit time.

Like, this is why the weight limit happens for the chute and for the harness that is currently wrapped through my legs. So he gives me the tap. He's like, you ready? And I was like, no, no, no, this is the moment of truth here. So I held on to the backpack as hard as possible. I'm like, if this chute breaks or the harness breaks i'm gonna hang on to this backpack as much as i can he pulls that thing and i have never had a moment in my life inside where i

thought i was gonna die within the next second just waiting for that parachute to potentially catch me and then all of a sudden it felt like somebody pulled like the rip cord on like a yo-yo and my grundle just got sucked up into the air. It was like, and the guy's like, all right, we made it. I was like, were you worried? He's like, you're a heavy guy. I'm like, oh my God. So then we just start floating around, you know, and my balls are all the way inside of my kidneys and I'm just, he's like, here, take the little toggle thing. So I'm kind of steering us around. It's a pretty cool thing.

And you're doing that for like 15 minutes. But after four minutes, you're about bored with it. You're like, all right, let me get down on the ground. And as we're going down, I was like, oh, by the way, I'm a professional punter. So if we could not break my legs on a landing, that would be incredible. He's like, you should have told me after. Now I nervous i was like really really he was like you just lift those

legs up and we did a butt land yeah i i have never been that flexible in my life i had my legs probably up by my fucking face yeah i was doing a full v-sit and we just came sliding into my ass but it was a really really awesome experience is there awkward conversation the whole way down though like what's that conversation no you're just looking around it's like a it's a really, really awesome experience. Is there an awkward conversation the whole way down, though? Like, what's that conversation like? No, you're just looking around. It's like a cool moment. I mean, he told me, the guy was funny, man. He was very funny.

I was like, were you worried about the weight? He was like, no, it's a combined weight. He's like, I'm so small. Just because you're five pounds over, it's not that big of a deal. He was like, I could have told you that earlier. But he basically gave me like, this one's for me he basically gave me like, this one's for me. You know what I mean? He gave me like, this one's for me.

And you're kind of like floating around and looking around. We had a funny conversation. He was like, never do a double date, by the way, ever doing this. And I was like, why? He was like, would you want a slick guy strapped to your girl's back who's literally about to save her life, which is what I'm about to do, what I did to here and i was like no that's hilarious he was a funny guy and we got down there and landed and uh they were like all right when you want to do the next one i

was like next one this is what we like to call a bucket list check mark and i am never getting in that plane again and it was um it was a cool experience i have it on tape i haven't watched it in years but i would the full thing yeah like whenever they finally catch up to me i mean i'm telling you the guy just dumped me out like i was trash right out of that thing like straight down how talented are those camera guys though you know like they have to catch up to you and try to get like that shot it was a woman uh wow camera guy woman jesus guy man no i mean it's like it's 1940 unbelievable camera woman yes uh yeah what's uh what's a universal camera person camera operator dude oh cam op way to go thank you we interrupt this intriguing conversation about god knows what for a reading

from zeta before we get started zeta yep i found out you were in the 40 of millennials what does that mean 40 of millennials say they do not use deodorant oh yeah that's it it's absolutely no i'm back on it sure Sure you are. Just a reading from Zito. A court of studies just over time. If you're listening out there, use deodorant, by the way. It's not about you. It's bigger than you.

Yeah, millennials. All right. A court of studies just over time. I don't even know how that has become a thing. We've made fun of humans that have not used deodorant for a long time. Are you guys the gel ones or the white one? I'm the white one.

Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Gel ones make me... I don't like the wet, sticky feeling. Well, I don't either. You have to dry it out. The gel stick. That's nice in between.

So not the gel that you twist and it pops up. Oh, fuck that one. Mine's blue. It's not white, but it's a stick. Yeah, yeah. It's not wet. Do you fan down? Do you fan it?

No. No. No. You guys are doing it wrong. We all are pretty sure you've never put on deodorant. We are using it. I'm a user. We are rubbing it on our armpits. I'm a big user.

Every day. Yeah, you are. It's $4 for two sticks of deodorant. Yeah. Millennials, Foxy. It's not hard to do. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Foxy's not using it for sure.

I'm in the 60% there. I'm in the 42 percent i don't like these studies by the way i don't like these studies you go to some hipster paradise and just ask the people outside of it like i have four out of ten said they don't it's like well four out of ten people also are fucking worst humans on earth true you know what i mean you ever see the people use the rock they claim that works like excuse me we had a guy in my police academy that used this rock and he claimed that it was from finland or something oh maybe you don't have to use deodorant if you use this rock and i'm like well everybody's complaining if you would have said i like shit the rock is working because irish spring i would have believed you but not

finland it's not finished just a rock i would like you to know that the rock might work, but... Not on you. Not for you. Let's go, Zito. Are you going to read or...? Yeah, it's on me. A recent Gallup survey shows... Gout?

Gallup. I thought you said Gout survey. Earlier today, you said rent, supposedly. You definitely said run to me, though. What do you mean? It's on me. A recent Gallop survey shows Americans worry more about burglary than almost any other crime.

More than mugging, more than terrorism, more than car theft and murder. There was no question marks. Yeah, it was just periods. And what's crazy is that... Oh, so we're not going back. We're past that. All right, I'll do another one. No, no, no, no. There are over 2 million burglaries reported every year.

That's one every 13 seconds. Oh. Oh, yeah. Hold on, let's pause for 13 seconds. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13. And what's crazy is the only- Those were the fastest- Pretty quick.

That was probably like six seconds there, seven seconds. That's why I'm like really fast. Fast burglary. Quick feet, quick count. Yep. You just raised the crime rate. There's now four million burglies in the U.S. And what's crazy is the only one in five homes have home security.

Maybe because most companies really don't make it easy. Because, you know, with SimpliSafe, I always fuck this part up because... You try to ad-libbing. Yeah, I'm not good at the ad-lib portion. But I'm going to tell you right now, it is very hard because they... Nope, nope, don't got it there. this part up because you try to ad-libbing yeah i'm not good the ad-lib portion but i'm gonna tell you right now it is very hard because they uh nope nope don't got it there baker says to talk about prevent you things that prevent you from getting other companies you know that is a very tough question you know listeners have tweeted me and told me stop that reads no that every time

these start they are pulling so hard for you to just do one perfect run. And sometimes you get some hurdles in there. Today might be your worst attempt yet. Like, did Todd get a hold of this one? I had to put a bunch of exclamation points after every other word in there. Cedar literally uses this product every single day. It's the one product that he uses every day, several times a day. In numerous places.

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M-C-A-F-E-E. Nailed it. Back to the show. I forgot when you talked about swimming with sharks. Diggs and I literally did that when we went to, ironically enough, the Dominican two years ago. And we survived. By the way, in the Dominican,

nowhere near the most dangerous thing you did down there was swim with sharks. No, who knew? Just drinking from that fucking mini bar. Which is what we did all day long. Prices are a-dropping, my friends. I saw you trying to pile on. Oh, yeah.

I'm going to retweet every single bad article about the Dominican. Get those prices down to 30 bucks. Diggs is going to get a fucking Groupon price for real to go down there. I snorkeled in Cancun, and we came across a school of barracuda. Oh, yeah.

Oh, fuck that. There was those there, too. Hell, yeah. there too hell yeah that was scary looking the barracuda was much more scary than the shark yeah they're eerie and you can see in the rays and the fucking eels are scary there were there were rays and i was like all i could think about was steve erwin yeah those are all right come on man i know but still you see it down there i always i always just assume and you probably shouldn't do this especially with all the stuff that's coming out now with everything. It's like, yeah, they wouldn't have me do this if I could get hurt. AQ went and did a zip line thing down in Mexico. AQ is 400 pounds.

Shouldn't be doing that. So I asked him. I think he FaceTimed me from the hotel. He's like, I'm going fucking zip line in Jungle Lake, Mexico. I'm like, is there not a weight limit? He was like, I didn't even ask. And I was like, did they mention anything? He was like, no,

they didn't mention it. I'm like, oh, well, they wouldn't have you do it if it was a potential problem. Not in Mexico. Now that we're learning about it, it's like, AQ should not have been fucking tarzanning around those things down there. But he loved it. He got pictures and everything.

That zipline company, AQ Dye's doing that. All they do is pick it up and they move it two mountains down and just reopen their company. And they never announce it, by the way. It is not a single time. It's like Sam. Every time we go to a place, she wants to go to some lion's den to go pet these lions and shit like that.

That's a good idea. And in my head, I'm always just like, they wouldn't have you do it if there was going to be a problem. But then I guess a much smarter thought is oh nobody would ever know if you were just to get eaten by fucking whatever the what's it lion fred the lion simba simba yeah if simba takes out sam i guess nobody would ever know and i've always just had too much of um what's that called naive when you just like yeah people's best intentions like know. And I've always just had too much of, what's that called? Naive.

When you just like, yeah, people's best intentions. I feel like I've always been like that. Like, oh, that person would never do that. They looked me right in the eye and said that. But I guess now we're kind of in a new world. Especially this Dominican thing has scared me, by the way. It has scared me a lot. Our situation was like a booze cruise.

And so they booze you up while you're riding out to the little pendant area where you can swim with these animals. And there were probably no less than 120 people on that boat. And they're doing that probably six times a day. You could easily swim to the other side of the boat and just been gone. No one would have even noticed. Yeah, there's not like a head count on the way out.

No, not at all. That's where the lack of safety regulation comes into play. Because every one of those, if you go out scuba diving or snorkeling, they put you on one of those catamarans. And they have coolers full. They're like, who wants a tequila shot? They blow a whistle.

They're like, I probably shouldn't be doing 12 shots of tequila before I scuba dive. With probably Molly in those. You know what I mean? Well, when you fall into the ocean, you're just chum then, too. If you're drunk and then you pass out and fall in there, it's like, ah, shark will get him. You can't flow your arms and legs. You and Jack are just floating around. Exactly.

What's the story about Dominican, though? It's a Titanic, too. The tourists are getting sick and dying. Just from the liquor? Their hearts stopping. They stop breathing. They're using a certain... I think we talked about this, I think.

It's like chemical warfare. I don't know if it was on this show or Heartland Radio. Heartland, yes. Heartland Radio yesterday. to stop breathing. They're using a certain... I think we talked about this, I think. It's like chemical warfare. I don't know if it was on this show or Heartland Radio. Heartland, yes. Heartland Radio yesterday. They're using a cleaning substance, I think, that is probably a much more efficient

cleaning substance. It probably cleans quicker, but I think it has a fatality side effect. Yeah, maybe with uranium. Yeah. And I think it's on the bottle, so when people drink, it gets in their mouth and they're dead so

it's like you drink out of your straw yeah you well you agree what yes probably not a plastic one though take it easy on a turtle but somehow a metal straw is better than yeah i don't fully understand the metal one i don't i don't fully understand how the metal straw has replaced the plastic sinks to the bottom the plastic plastic one floats. That makes sense. That makes a lot of sense. You're trying to drink a water, which you think is healthy for you, but it turns out it's a death sentence while you're on vacation. It's a scary

situation down there in the Dominican. That's what I never understood either. They tell you not to drink the water there, but then they're serving up all these drinks with ice in them, and they're like, oh yeah, no, that's filtered. I'm like, no, no, no. Apparently all the resorts have a water filtration system, but who knows? Nah. Trust it.

These are the same people that are just putting AQ out on their zip lines. I've gotten Montezuma's revenge every single time I go. I don't think I've ever. Tony, what did you do? Just run out to the ocean real quick? No, no, no. There's a big difference between going in very, very dark, dark blue slash brown Atlantic ocean water and clean, clear Caribbean water.

I'm glad you have standards. People on their balconies. We can see exactly what you're doing. This is crystal clear water. That's why we came here. He's not peeing. Come look at this bearded lumberjack. Just spraying. looks like an octopus

exactly what it would look like we didn't go on vacations though whenever i was a kid literally went on zero vacation so we went to aruba after my grandma passed so that was it but so i never really every time i go on a vacation i feel like i'm learning something new you know that i never really experienced before. They're all so nice to you, mostly because you're bringing the money, so they're all very nice to you. I'm always just like, these people wouldn't lie to me. No way.

I'm supposed to take a Jeep Wrangler right up a fucking straight uphill. For sure. For sure I'm supposed to climb this thing straight up like a professional crawler. For sure. Flying over a volcano, like 20 feet over an active volcano. I'm sure this helicopter's built for this. Well, that was in the U.S.

I think you're okay there. True, but I mean, I'm sure there's helicopters. They had one crash, one of those. Remember you said, get the big one, don't get the small one? It was the small one that crashed. That's one of the things I think I'm pretty excited. Back to logic questions we were going to earlier i think if you get an option for a bigger helicopter or a smaller helicopter you go with the bigger helicopter absolutely yeah in my head would you guys do a hot air balloon never in a million fucking years i couldn't even

all you hear is bad stories yeah those things go down or go into trees why could they have a bigger basket though that's's the only thing I've never studied. The basket's huge. Science, I think. I think it's probably science. It has to be the hog. That makes sense.

Also, the basket is much bigger than you think it is. What do you mean? Have you ever been on a hot air balloon? No. But I recently watched Yes Man

and Jim Carrey and his girlfriend were in it. Oh, CGI. They could have fit like seven people in that basket. We could cut ties with all the lies that you've been living in. And if you do not want to see me again, I would understand. I would understand. I would understand.

I read the boo. So I wanted to learn how to play that song. A different movie, yeah. Strictly because of that movie. I wanted to learn how to play that song, because he saved a life, obviously. I wanted to walk into a local house at the moon and say, give me a fucking guitar.

Dumb, dumb. Murder Mystery, by the way, has broken, broke. Again, broke. Broke. Broken? Broken. Shattered.

Hey, by the way, congrats to me and Foxy being a part of a record. Absolutely. We broke a Netflix streaming record. Yep. And Zito with watching Adam Sandler and Gumpy. What was the record? Biggest weekend debut of any Netflix movie in history.

It says a lot. Murder Mystery by Adam Sandler. Happy Madison Productions. Jennifer Aniston. And also Netflix made that movie. Madison Productions, Jennifer Aniston, and also Netflix made that movie. So Netflix saying that it broke a Netflix record after being a company that Netflix invested hundreds of millions of dollars into might be a little suspicious. But I know I watch it.

Four people in this room watch it. They beat Sandy? I don't know how. No, no, not the movie, Sandy. Because that movie's terrible. Yeah, Bird Box. Oh, shut up. That movie's terrible. Yeah, Bird Box. Oh, shut up. That movie's terrible.

You just crossed the line. You have answered questions today about scuba diving, hot air ballooning, and now you're taking a shot. Logging. Logging. Logging. He just tried to slide it in there, too. He thought he was going to get away. And now you're taking shots of Sandy.

I mean, if I've learned anything about this record, it's that Adam Sandler still got it. And that's why he's my favorite actor of all time. I haven't seen as much about this movie than I did Bird Box. I will say that's impressive, yeah, because there's been no pop about it. You just woke up one day and it was on there. There was no commercials. There were no tweets about it.

I didn't see anything. And I think it's because everybody knew and expected Adam Sandler to put out a heater. It moves the needle. It moves the needle. Adam Sandler gets a million, a hundred millions of views every single year. Don't discredit Jen Aniston either. No, no, no.

Jen Aniston brought her fair amount of views. Brought Todd, for sure. Incredible writing. Have you seen the movie, Todd? No. I'm waiting until Marnie is not there because I will masturbate. Maybe wait until I'm gone too. All right.

Well, that's the show today. can't wait to get to pittsburgh tomorrow cincinnati then columbus we have incredible guests lined up we have an incredible show for you we're so so thankful had some heartbreaking news that i broke on heartland radio 2.0 yesterday a business decision had to be made and we took an office vote and ultimately I had to carry the biggest hammer in the jurisdiction, but we were all on the same page here. I had to reschedule the second leg of the Pat McAfee Show Does America Tour. Everybody's getting refunded. Everybody's going to get first access to tickets whenever we do reschedule. And honestly,

I hate that it happened. Remember when Paul Revere was supposed to go out with his wife that night and they were like, we kind of need you to let everybody know if the British are coming. And he had to go tell her, I'm sorry, I won't be able to keep our plans tonight and she got so upset about it. He was stewed too, don't forget.

In that perspective, sometimes it's about the big picture and also from what i've heard that was a great metaphor but the paul revere story is a bunch of sack of shit yeah he was drunk well and that's why they end up getting divorced because she found out that he wasn't even that guy what we're saying is iowa detroit and minnesota we will be there i am so sorry that we're gonna miss it we're gonna delay it we're gonna reschedule it the show will be better and i'm gonna make it right i promise uh aside from that thanks for rocking with us today gumpy great seeing you in the office and in the studio ty schmidt hit the music i wish you would step back from that ledge my friend you could cut ties with all the lies that you've been living in

And if you do not want to see me again I would understand I would understand The angry boy a bit too insane Icing over a secret pain You know you don't belong You're the first to fight, you're way too loud You're the flash of light on a burial shroud

I know something's wrong But everyone I know Has got a reason To say Put the past away I wish you would step back From that ledge, my friend We could cut ties

For the lives That you've been living in And if you do not want to see me again I would understand I would understand Well, he's on the table and he's gone to code And I do not think anyone knows what they're doing here And your friends are out too, you've been dismissed

I never thought it would come to this And I, I want you to know Everyone's got to face down the demons Maybe today you could put the past away I wish you would step back from that ledge, my friend You could cut ties with all the lies that you've been living in And if you do not want to see me again I would understand

I would understand I would understand I'm out. Thank you. Can you put up the past away? I wish you would step back from that land, my friend I would understand I wish you would step back from that land, my friend I would understand I wish you would step back from that land, my friend And I would understand I wish you would understand And I would understand

I would understand And I would understand Thank you.