The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 087 - 4th Of July Celebration With Aaron Rodgers, JJ Watt, Tim Tebow, & We Remember Jared Lorenzen

Episode Date: July 4, 2019

On today's show, Pat's in Hawaii and everyone else is off work for the rest of the week. This episode features previous interviews with Aaron Rodgers (4:24-15:54), Tim Tebow (18:56-40:30), JJ Watt (42...:25-1:07:42), and we celebrate the life of Jared Lorenzen with an old interview between The Hefty Lefty himself, and Pat. RIP. (1:06:04-1:39:36). Happy 4th of July, everybody. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:49 From the great state of Maine all the way down to the southern tip of Florida Over to Southern California all the way up to the northwestern tip of Washington, Alaska and Hawaii The states that came to be were supposed to be this Depiction of perfection for where you would want to inhabit your lives. Supposed to be a place where you could speak and live and do whatever the fuck you please. Did we always hit the mark? No, no, absolutely not. There's been plenty of times where we missed mightily. But I think all in all, if you look around, there's a lot more good than bad. And July 4th is always a day each year for us to remember that although
Starting point is 00:01:30 our country has some flaws, we're the greatest fucking country on earth. Happy birthday to America. Happy belated to Canada. And let's celebrate the shit out of America. The red, the white, and the blue impound some lights and heavies, brews. I'm lucky to be an American. I'm proud to be an American. And every time I leave the country, I can't wait to get back to America. I am currently sitting in Hawaii,
Starting point is 00:02:01 which just so happens to be one of the most important states in the United States history. Because there once was a time where there were some military folks just chilling out there in a little picture of paradise. And some fucking came and dropped some bombs over there. And a slew of men went to war and fought for this country we live in. So let's remember that whenever petty differences arise, that there's a lot more on the line than just the standard drama bullshit. This is the country of freedom and a country of opportunity.
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Starting point is 00:04:29 So if you're looking for some seats, if you're going to get some tickets, make sure you do it through SeatGeek. All right, the first interview we got today was actually recorded a decent amount of time ago. It was when we were still with Barstool. But the reason we're pulling it out is we just met this guy recently in the Bahamas. He's going to be coming back on the show very soon he's an absolute legend in every sense of the word ladies and gentlemen Pat's best friend Aaron Rodgers uh Mr. Rodgers I'd like to thank you for joining us thank you for finally inviting me hold on, I don't need your shit. Hold on, let me give you an intro. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now,
Starting point is 00:05:07 he's a six-time Pro Bowler. He's a Super Bowl champion, two-time NFL MVP. He has 313 touchdowns in the National Football League, a career passer rating of 103.8. I have no clue what that means, but I know it's very high. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Aaron. How many people do you have in the room?
Starting point is 00:05:37 There's five or six of us in here. More than one person clapping. Do you have an audience in there? Well, you deserve that, Aaron. I assume everywhere you go, there's a nice audience. We have a group of six here excited for this conversation with the legend Aaron Rodgers. That is you.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Yeah, I actually pay a guy to walk around with one of those megaphones. Make way, make way. Not a bad idea. Here comes the 103.8 quarterback rating guy. Thank you. I have no idea what that 103.8, but I know that's very high, so I know it's very impressive. Let's talk about it.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Your career has been one that's absolutely impeccable. You came in as a backup. You took over the reins in Green Bay, and you've done nothing short of just dazzle the entire National Football League. You're coming back off an injury this year. How does Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers feel this year, 2018 season? Wow. You're like a big-time deal, man.
Starting point is 00:06:31 I'm impressed, Pat. I know this is not your first rodeo, but well done for the brand, obviously. Hey, Aaron, hold that. We're going to clip that, by the way, and pull that forever. I just want you to know that. Yes, you should. You should. And by the way, before I get into some serious football talk,
Starting point is 00:06:47 I just want to say that I really enjoy following you on social media and I enjoy your posts when you're lighting up and gassing up the punters around the league. So continue. Thank you for that. As far as the Green Bay Packers go. I do that for you, Aaron, by the way. I do that for you.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Yes, I know you do. I know. Okay, good. Yes. Yeah. Yes, I know you do. I know. Yep, okay, good. Yes. Yeah. I don't know how we're going to be. Shoot, what's the prognosticator saying? We're going to be pretty good?
Starting point is 00:07:13 No, I like what we've done. We did some things that, you know, we haven't done in a while. We brought in a bunch of veteran guys who can really play. So that's good. You know, you've been in the locker room. You know, when you add guys from other teams to the league, it can kind of go either way. And this year, we had some guys who are really adding to the mix and buying into what we're doing and really bringing some leadership to the locker room, which I think we were lacking.
Starting point is 00:07:39 Combine that with the new offensive coordinator, it's been really good. I like the vibe right now. But we'll see. It's a long season. A lot of things change. We just got to be in front of the change and find a way to be playing our best at the right time. You play golf. You play guitar. You're dating Danica Patrick.
Starting point is 00:07:58 You're the best quarterback I've ever seen. It seems as if you have life figured out. Any tips on how I can be a better human? No, I'm inspired by you. So I'm trying to figure out, I was going to ask you the same question. I mean, you seem to seem to get things figured out pretty good. I think it's just having a give a what, you know, give a what meter that's really low, right? Yep. You know, you just don't, nothing really bothers you a whole lot. I think that's, I mean, I'm sure you can relate to this. When you get older, you learn to let things go a little bit easier.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And if you let things go a little bit easier and don't be so sensitive, like your quality of life goes way up. And you start attracting the same type of people who aren't kind of locked up in this uh social media world of instant gratification and and uh adhd and and you you know find those people you can have good intelligent deep conversations with and and uh and experience experience life together so you're doing it i'm living vicariously through you sometimes well just know that i live vicariously through you every single day the big trigger question is if you were to procreate would you allow your kid to play football i would i definitely would well if he had aaron rogers's dad i think i'd let my kid had aaron rogers as his dad i'd let him play football
Starting point is 00:09:23 too just for future reference. Multiple sports. Are you a single sport advocate or do you play a bunch of sports? I think you should play everything. I think it makes you better at all the sports if you're well-rounded. I assume you agree? 100%. Why is it becoming singular? Do we become best friends?
Starting point is 00:09:41 I think, yup. Hey, why have people become singular focused sports why has that become the big thing for young kids these days why is it because the selfishness of the coaches yeah i think you get somebody who can only coach one sport or player who can only do one thing and instead of you know learning through mistakes and failures and being incredible at one sport and not as great at another sport. I don't want to feel bad or get corrected or anything. I'm just going to play one sport where I know I'm good
Starting point is 00:10:12 and I don't have to be corrected or have some failure or deal with frustration. I mean, that's kind of what I think. We're giving out ribbons and trophies for everything instead of being mentally tough and learning what it means to be coachable. You're saying people are soft. Getting softer, yeah. Do you think the younger generation of the NFL is vastly different than what it used to be in the NFL?
Starting point is 00:10:42 I mean, I think that's kind of a vague question that I can, you know, you run with it. However, Aaron Rogers. Yeah. I think you should run because when I, whenever I was getting later into my career, I noticed that the younger generation was so much different than what it used to be like, whether it came to, I don't want to say about mental toughness, but it really seemed as if it was getting softer. And I don't know if that was just the people we were bringing into our team or if that's the nfl in general if it's becoming more of a me situation as opposed to a team situation yeah i think that there's definitely a different type of player not that you can't get guys on board with what you're what you're doing if you have great
Starting point is 00:11:23 leadership but um which i and i truly believe that's possible. I'm not going to write off, you know, kids these days, they can't, you know. No, I don't believe that. I think you can teach people how to be mentally tough, to be locked in, to be focused, to be coachable. I really do. But I think there's less of that fear for job security, and I think there's less of that fear for job security, and I think you can probably agree with me on that as a whole. There's just not that maybe fear that even I had as a first-round pick that,
Starting point is 00:11:56 damn, man, if I don't play good, I'm getting axed. So I better be always on time and always prepared and ready to go and show an improvement. There just might not be that same type of approach at the same level. I think I agree with that a lot. I think a lot of people are expecting a lot of things these days. Are you like a wine drinker? You're from California.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Are you a super snobby drinker? Do you drink at all? Do you have a good time? What is Aaron Rod? Can you have a good time? You're one of the most notable humans in the country. I can definitely have a good time. What is Aaron Rod? Can you have a good time? You're one of the most notable humans in the country. I can definitely have a good time, Pat. What do you do, Mr. Rogers?
Starting point is 00:12:30 And I like my scotch. Oh, what a man's man that is. Single malt or blended? Single. Oh, no hangover. I like that. That's a real alcoholic. That's a real alcoholic.
Starting point is 00:12:44 And, you know, I like my bourbon as well. single oh no hangover i like that that's a real alcoholic that's a real alcoholic and uh and i you know i like my bourbon as well all right are you a neat guy or on the rocks i won't turn down uh wine you know red wine but uh but if i'm having a drink i like to have a little scotch with a couple little ice cubes not the big one not a big ice cube just a couple little ones well the big one kind of gets in the way probably hits your mouth your teeth all that stuff i can respect that who's somebody you had a good time with drank a little bit with that you were like you know what had no idea this guy was going to be this good of a time and that just kind of surprised you aj hawk would be a guy that i was very surprised that he's a good time
Starting point is 00:13:21 anybody else comes to your mind no aj, A.J. is a blast. I love A.J. I would say Scott Tolzien. Scotty! Scotty T, man, he's the best. He was my backup here for a few years. We do a trip every year to the Derby, and he came one year,
Starting point is 00:13:40 and we had an absolute blast together. It's a big group. there's a bunch of guys from the team come and some some other friends um from over the years but uh scott tilzien it's definitely uh definitely a really good time i've heard about these trips do you own horses or just gamble on them have a good time in louisville the latter oh i like that a lot. Jesus. I think to own horses, yeah, it's not really my cup of tea there. I'd rather just go and watch. What do you do for fun? I like to golf.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Oh, you're in that golf tournament with, what's his face, Steph Curry. How is your game? Every quarterback seems to be very good at golf. Are you the best in the league? I don't know about best in the league. I think I'm close probably at that event. Let's see who was there. Alex Smith was there.
Starting point is 00:14:34 He can hit all the short stuff, guaranteed. He's a system golfer. I'm sorry. I had to do that. Golf and Bortles, not very good golfers. But let me – but I don't know, Pat, if you know Blake at all. He's a good time, though. Great time.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Great time. He said if he wasn't in the NFL, he'd be burning cigs and working as a construction worker. Yeah. Yeah. Makes a lot of sense. All right. Well, Mr. Rogers, I appreciate your time.
Starting point is 00:15:05 A prediction for the Green Bay Packers. You guys are going to go undefeated. That's awesome. Yep. Perfect. Good luck with everything. I thank you for finally joining us here. You're a gentleman.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Hey, have me back sometime, all right? We can talk about some more stuff. You have too many people to get through. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Tom's right here here he's tough to deal with he really is that's the pr guy yep that's unbelievable well you go ahead and do your thing i very you're very busy starting quarterback of an nfl team uh thank you so much for joining us ladies and gentlemen he's about to win his third nfl mvp this upcoming season big. Big ass, tall ass Jimmy Graham is going to be just an outlet in the red zone. Can't wait to watch that.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Number 12, Aaron Rodgers. Thank you so much, Aaron. Thank you, Pat. You're the best. Have a good one, buddy. See you later. What a human. What a fucking human.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Oh, man. Everything is just like, well, the way he talks, it just seems as if he's painting a picture with everything that you say when you're that good you're just so calm and just relaxed the playing the guitar thing by the way i wanted to get into that more because i watched that one interview where he was singing a guitar they said about to look bad and he somehow looked cool just the coolest dude on earth yeah really so smooth man so. So smooth, man. So smooth. Listen to him. I think you just said, do we become best friends? I said, yep.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Aaron Rodgers, back to being my best friend. Pat mentioned this on Tuesday's show, but Rodgers really couldn't be nicer of a human being. He takes a lot of heat from the media, obviously, for being standoffish or people call him an asshole or whatever. But like Pat mentioned, he sat down with them, and they were just bullshit and talking shop for 45 minutes to an hour. You know, there's, there's a lot of other big names there, but, uh, Rogers just really generally, I think does enjoy Pat's company, which is why I'm really excited to kind of see where their relationship goes from here. Like I said, he's going to be back on the show at some point. Hopefully it's sooner
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Starting point is 00:18:52 Speaking of thinking about baseball, this next guy we first met at the Super Bowl in Atlanta at a Topgolf, who, just like Rodgers, is probably one of the most misunderstood athletes on the face of the earth. I mean, no matter what this guy does, he takes shit, he takes heat, but he just keeps on moving. does. He takes shit. He takes heat, but he just keeps on moving. I believe that the Syracuse Mets are in town July 15th through July 18th. So I'm hoping that we'll be able to reconnect with this guy and maybe get him into the office for a little bit of content. I think there's some cool shit we could do with him in here. Without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, the man, the myth, the legend, Tim Tebow. You look incredible, dude. It's a good jacket. You look incredible. I feel like I'm still super dirty, though. We just came from a service project for a veteran, so I'm not like... Of course you did. Of course you did. I don't even... Are we going? Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who
Starting point is 00:19:44 needs no introduction, but I'll do it. Greatest college football player of all time. First round draft pick for the Denver Broncos. Now he's about to be a Major League Baseball player. There's nothing he can't do. Heisman winner, handsome man, legend on and off the field. I'm so excited you're here, ladies and gentlemen, Tim Tebow. I appreciate that introduction.
Starting point is 00:20:03 It's very kind of you. Well, I could have gotten more in. I don't know if it was all true, but thank you. It is all true. I believe it is all true. I don't know. Hopefully it'll be a major league baseball. What are you just speaking to Mike a little bit? Yeah, you gotta speak into Mike. Tim, come on. I thought we had good mics here, dude. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:20:20 This is our travel kit. Tim, I have so many questions. Whenever you were in college, we were all living This is our travel kit. Tim, I have so many questions. Yes. Fire away, man. Whenever you were in college, we were all living in Tim Tebow's world. We honestly were. For good reason, by the way. What you did at Florida was incredible. Was there ever a moment where you were like, it was too big for you, too much?
Starting point is 00:20:38 Everything you did was headlines. Still is, by the way. Everything you do and did was headlines. Was there ever a moment where you were like, man, I did not expect this. I did not know it was coming and things like that you know i don't know if it was necessarily too big but i feel like there was a time especially probably senior year where we're 12 and 0 undefeated number one in the country defending national champs and it felt like we weren't ranked if we didn't have a game that was as good as one of the last three years right if you beat
Starting point is 00:21:05 like if you beat Tennessee I think that year maybe we beat them like 38 to 10 well we didn't beat them we didn't score 50 yeah so it was like you know it was like that was the standard which is one of the things that's that I've been so impressed with Belichick and with Saban and what some of these people do is it's a lot easier to get to the top than it is to stay because that complacency sinks in and there were times you would be like hey listen it feels like the world's collapsing and we're undefeated you know and so I think that was something that was tough trying to speaking of staying at the top I mean you obviously did that Heisman winner national champion your speech that speech that you gave was, it's a statue. It's a statue. It was, was that from the heart scripted from the heart?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yeah, it was totally from the heart. It was incredible. It was like a Ric Flair promo you cut right there. It was next level. Then you go into the NFL, right? You go to the Broncos and there's so many questions surrounding everything. Is he an NFL quarterback? Is he not an NFL quarterback? You go from being the greatest college football player of all time to instantly scrutinize. Then you lead, obviously, a playoff victory. Was the transition to the NFL mentally harder than you thought it was going to be? I think the transition wasn't with Josh McDaniels
Starting point is 00:22:19 and the whole team there in Denver because I'm someone that when I get in, I'm just all in. So if the people in the building are supportive, then it was great. When it became like a mixed bag, that's when it's harder. When you weren't sure who was with you. Yes, yes. And that's when it's, you know, I'm just kind of one of those guys that if my team feels loyal, I'm good to go.
Starting point is 00:22:42 It doesn't matter what's on the outside, but if your team's kind of on the inside, and I don't mean the players, I just mean everyone around you. I think that's when it probably got harder. And then when it would be just every day of everywhere I would go, whether you stopped to get gas and there's billboards there of, you know, we've got a T-Bowl player, the guy comes out and he's billboards there of, you know, we got a T-Bone player, the guy comes out, you know, and he's like, hey, you know, they're arguing about you again on first take
Starting point is 00:23:10 and what's going to happen? It was like, there was the only place you could go for kind of reprieve from that was inside their home, right? And I'm not necessarily a homebody. I love people. I love being around them. But that's the only place of reprieve because even the building, it was inside or in practice
Starting point is 00:23:26 and you know it was just an interesting ordeal yeah I was every literally you're a rock star everywhere you go there is fandom and then you take this step into baseball once your football career is what's up whenever you decided to change your throwing motion was that because people told you to or you wanted to do it? No, that's because they – Were you forced to do that? It was advised to. If I would go back, I wouldn't have done it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Honestly, I feel like that was the one – the only time Tim Tebow ever showed any – of giving in to anybody, in my eyes, from an outsider looking in. Because I say this numerous times. That's a good point, actually. I get to – I got to watch you just dominate everything, anybody in my eyes from an outsider looking in because i on i said this numerous times actually i get to i got to watch you just dominate everything and i enjoyed your everything about you but whenever that started coming out like the videos from you throwing was hitting the internet i was like i did not expect him to go to do that i did not expect it to do that it's also one of
Starting point is 00:24:19 the hard things about it is if you'd be in practice and it'll be our own time and you'd be by yourself or with a couple of quarterbacks you'd be working on something you might be doing something you know just specifically a fundamental that you would know you'd work on your private but every single one of those would be captured and they would be put out and you're tim tebow like that's what it's gonna go and you'll be like that's just me and by myself on a private field just working and it's like you know and they're like well you you that one went into the dirt and I was like wow I was I was doing something right you know um could you imagine if during college the social media era was still there I don't know how you would have existed
Starting point is 00:24:57 you know I mean it just I think there's a lot of good that can come from it but it also makes things very difficult and I think the one thing that I try to encourage people to do is don't be the first person to just, when something, when a special event happens, to just grab your phone, embrace it in the moment. Enjoy it. I feel like so many people, they're more worried about capturing it than embracing it
Starting point is 00:25:18 and being in the moment. And I think sometimes you lose part of what's special when you do that. When you decide you want to go to baseball very hard decision you've conquered football no it was yeah it's a it was a tough decision it was a tough decision because you know there's why didn't you just model i i wondered this i wondered why you i was really wondering because all the scrutiny was coming out on you as a denver bronco quarterback you're getting everybody's coming after, whether they're for you or against you.
Starting point is 00:25:45 You're a topic of conversation. I've had meetings in ESPN where they actually say they have a list of things that move the needle. And it's like LeBron, Tebow, like everything about you. I'm like, this guy's the most handsome dude I've ever seen. He has the perfect, I don't want to say, I'll say image. I don't want you to think that that means fake. It's like, you're the perfect human.
Starting point is 00:26:04 I was like, why doesn't he just go model? But you still had more you wanted to do in your athletic career. You know, I think there was part of football that obviously I love, still love, and still had different opportunities to do, but it wasn't what I was as passionate about, you know, the whole, you know, Wildcat, H-back, tight end, all that. You played PP against us with the Jback, tight end, all that. You played PP against us with the Jets, and you threw a fake.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Yeah, you threw a fake on a fake punt. What happened on it? Did we get it? It snapped to you. You did a dump off. It was like a 45-yard gain. Nice. It was bullshit, baby.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Hey, we talked about it all week. All week we talked about it. We're like yo Tebow's a PP Let's assume that he's in there not to block people We'll be prepared. We'll be prepared and then I think was the first punt It was like a 45 yard game right out the box. I'm like, what are we doing? You know what's funny about that though when I was the up back is there were Everyone we would play there would be like four guys being like 15. I got Tebow I was like there's not four guys going to be blocking me.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And you know they were going to be like just all out, you know. And I would be like, especially when we played Pittsburgh. I was like running down the field and there's seven guys trying to block me. That's a moment, bro. That's their moment. It's not my moment. Do you remember playing Pittsburgh and then throwing a slant in an overtime game and then ruining my life?
Starting point is 00:27:25 He's a diehard Steelers fan right there. I do remember that. It's a good memory. That was a tough memory. Hey, great ball, though. Thank you. That was a really good ball. That was a fun game.
Starting point is 00:27:34 That was a really special one. Just that whole team, though. Number one defense in the NFL and James Harrison and Troy Palamalo and that whole team. That was like one of those games where I grew up watching all those guys do, you know? That was fun. Troy Palomaro, he stole a moment from me. My only NFL touchdown was a guarantee.
Starting point is 00:27:56 It was a fake field goal where the holder catches it, and I just walk, you know? Like it just parts wide open. There's never anybody in the C-gap. They just pick up if we're inside the five-yard line You take the snap pat and you just walk right into the end zone and you're gonna score a touchdown on Sunday Night Football That was the plan. Who are you playing Steelers? Troy Paul Mullen ruined it. So I'm happy you ruined his day. He bounced his ass into the sea gap So Troy made the tackle against you. No, he didn't make the – he normally lines up over here, right?
Starting point is 00:28:25 Quarterback's talking. Nine out of 100 times. Quarterback's talking now. He lines up over here 100% of the time his entire career. Okay. For some reason, this one time, he bounces into the exact gap where I'm supposed to go, Tebow. I have to check out of Omaha. Yes, sir. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I'm not dying to. Did you make the call? Yeah, I made the Omaha. All right, that'll be it. Hey, okay. I like that. So you leave football, you go to baseball. Let's get to it.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Because you're going to be in the majors. But you know what? The funny thing about that is most of the people that were even on my team or agents were like, um, what? Bro, we just got you a TiVo deal. We got you a DirecTV deal. you a direct tv deal yeah yeah i know genius idea so but it was like so we're having this meeting in new york city and they're going over these different opportunities and i'm like but i'm just a guy i truly believe the bottom of
Starting point is 00:29:19 my heart in pursuing my passions yeah it's on your heart i believe that for everyone because they're there for a reason and if you don't, you might make more money or you might be more famous. But at the end of the day, you're going to look back and you'll regret it. Because you didn't go after what's on your heart. I don't know if you'd be more famous. It's hard to get more famous. And so for me, they were going over these different opportunities. And I was like, it doesn't spark the passion in me.
Starting point is 00:29:42 And I said, hey, guys, what do you think about if I pursued baseball? Hold on. I would like to hear this. I would like to set myself up in this meeting. You, a bunch of suits in there trying to figure out how we go ahead and take over the world, how we continue to keep it moving, spread the T-Bone message, which is always a great one, by the way. Positivity, religious, you're a man of faith. Obviously, everybody knows that you're an incredible speaker.
Starting point is 00:30:08 They're like, all right, maybe we do this. Maybe we do this. We get you to another team maybe. They'll take care of you, better situation. You know what, guys? I was thinking maybe I'd just try to become a professional baseball player. I don't know how you guys are feeling about it. I am at peak popularity at this point.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Peak popularity coming out of it. You had the Tebow City in Philadelphia and in New England, not by you, but your fans and everybody like that. And then you decide to just pivot and go in a completely different career. When was the time you played baseball before that? Were you a kid? The last time I played was my junior year in high school. Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:39 But I had – first of all, that was a really tough decision, giving up my senior year of baseball to go to Florida early for football. But every year at Florida, I would be like – because when I went, Urban told me I could do both. Did he lie to you? No, but every year I would say – Tell us if he lied to you. He didn't.
Starting point is 00:30:59 But every year I'd go talk to him and I would be like, you know, I think I might go do this this year. And it was hard, right? So my freshman year we win the championship. It's like you don't want to go risk it the next year. Those national championships getting away. And it was just, that was hard. So every year I was like, and then I became friends with some of the Rockies when I was in Denver.
Starting point is 00:31:22 And I was like, this is awesome. Taking BP probably? I didn't necessarily do it as much with them. But, dude, I went and took BP a lot of different places. Like everywhere I go speak, like all the universities, they're like, yeah, you're basically going to go hit BP. I just loved it. It was fun, you know.
Starting point is 00:31:37 And it always had a spark. And that spark never left. And I was like, you know what? If this has been on my heart after, I think at the time it's like 11 years later. I haven't played it. There's a reason. And so while I knew most of the world or the media is going to say, well, there's no way. And you have a chance to fall flat on your face.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And even agents, which is their job, but they were like, dude, what if you embarrass yourself? Or what if you embarrass yourself or what if you fail and i said you know when you risk when you go after something that's a chance that you have to take that's okay whoever said that failing was bad well the word it has a negative connotation but it also means it also means that if you learn from most great people they risk risk, they failed over and over, and then they were able to succeed. You know what I mean? Let's go, Jimmy! Let's go! But it's, you know, I mean, a lot of successful people that are CEOs of companies, they failed at companies until they learned. And for me, when I was 50, when I'm 50 years old, I want to turn back and say, you know what? I went after my passion. I went after my passion. I went after my passion.
Starting point is 00:32:45 And I tried to do it the right way. And I don't have to look back with regrets of saying, you know, I did it for money. I did it for popularity. I did it for, you know, I played it safe. Like, who cares? Ultimately, who cares, you know? And I wanted to be someone that, you know, and also when I speak to young people, I can say go after your heart because I went after mine. And I wasn't scared of what the world, because the world wants to define us they want to say you you can
Starting point is 00:33:08 only do it this way and my thing is why i'm going to try to do it the best way for me there's a wall everybody's listening right now is about to run through a wall tim because i do believe that with the negativity hogging publicity which is the way the world is right now negativity hogs publicity everybody thinks that successful people have batted a thousand in their life when that is With the negativity hogging publicity, which is the way the world is right now, negativity hogs the publicity. Everybody thinks that successful people have batted 1,000 in their life when that is not accurate at all. You run into some hurdles and some stumbles, and you're going to learn and grow from it. But then also a lot of people want to put their persona out there like also they're perfect. And I want to be the first one to say I'm not.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Hey, real quick. You're close. Tim, you are. You don't have to say it. one to say is I'm not like, Hey, real quick, you're, you're close. Tim, you are, you don't have to say it. I'll say it. But we, we fail, we mess up. I mean, that's one reason, you know why I'm so thankful for grace, for the mentality of it. And that's just a mindset that I want to have, um, all the time because it's been showed on me and I want to have that for other people. And, you know, I think that's why Instagram filters are so famous right now is because reality wasn't enough. So we have to put a filter on it to make it seem better. And I want to encourage people, young people, that that's not real.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Instagram's not real. It's not. That isn't. Like people think reality TV shows, that's real. That is not real. That is a television show. Yes. That is not everybody's life.
Starting point is 00:34:24 It's a television show. Yeah. Now you, speaking of television show, I would have loved to seen this. Did you film you on a bus in like single A baseball traveling around like Jackie Moon and semi-pro? I didn't. I mean, I'm sure there's some clips of it, but no, I didn't document it. And there was a lot of opportunities to do that, but I just didn't want my teammates to think I was doing it
Starting point is 00:34:45 so that they would – I was being filmed so they would think this isn't real. And I wanted them to see that I'm on the grind. I was on every bus, you know, driving across the country. Motels. We're staying in motels? I don't know if they're motels, but they're not the best. You know? And they're definitely not the best. And, yeah, definitely the worst part of minor league baseball.
Starting point is 00:35:05 It's the travel. I was a professional baseball player in the Frontier League for one night, starting right fielder. For one night? Yeah. One night. Pretty good team, too. Never played baseball in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Not once. How did you do in the game? I made contact, too. 333 on base percentage. 333 on base percentage. Never missed a ball. No strikeouts? None.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I like it. Two put outs. Huh? Two put outs. That's what I'm talking about. There it is. See, I don't even know these baseball terms. Solid stat line right there.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Yeah, it wasn't bad. I looked a little chunky in this. I didn't know it was all white. It came in a little tight. I didn't know that was going to happen. That's fair. Did you go pants down or pants up? Pants down.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I had some Jordans, all white Jordans. It just went straight white, white, white. It looked good. Do you go pants up? Very rarely. I go pants down. But every now and then I feel you go pants up uh very rarely i go pants down but every now and then i feel you go pants up you just look a little bit faster you know i got no shot of that there's no more there's no how has base have you found any challenges that you didn't expect like
Starting point is 00:35:57 whenever whenever i was going to do my game uh professionally baseball i was told by a lot of people like when you see that pitch, it's going to be insane. Like whether you can either see it or you can't. Hey. And then we start seeing videos of you hitting balls out in tiny towns across the country out of their park. It's like, did you know you were going to be a monster hitting? Did you know? I mean, I felt like there were certain things I could bring, but then there were also parts that that, you know, gosh, that freaking right-handed change-up got me for about three months in a row.
Starting point is 00:36:30 You know, like, it's just, oh, over the top, you know, over the top. And it's hard, and you've got to adjust. And, you know, my first year, I remember a few months in, I'm batting 150, and I was like 13, you know, at bats in a row where I was an offer and you know that's where you have to be you know that mental toughness you could say oh I'm kind of into it but no I'm all the way into this yeah you're battling through it right you're battling through the highs and the lows there was times to quit there was times to quit oh my gosh yeah there's times other people would look at me like yep you're gonna you're gonna quit it's about doing too good are you hey we got tivo still back there but it's just that that's not how
Starting point is 00:37:11 i'm wired in my mentality so you you battle through that but you go through those in every sport in everything that you do you know and even the best players in the game go through slumps and it's how you handle those moments nice what's next plan for you you're gonna be in the majors go through slumps. And it's how you handle those moments. Nice. What's next plan for you? You're going to be in the majors. I am a big-time baseball guy, as you just found out. Yeah. I'm a big-time baseball guy.
Starting point is 00:37:33 You get into the majors, though. Is that – that was obviously the goal all along. Would there be any moments that are too big for Tebow? Like, is there any moment – like, you get in the majors, you're first at bat. Let's imagine that it's in New York. They announce that it's your first at bat for the Mets. That place is going to be big. It's going to be.
Starting point is 00:37:52 First sellout for the Mets at bat. In forever. It'll be the first sellout for them in so long. You're walking up to that plate. You're standing outside the batter's box. I don't know if you tighten your gloves. What's going through your head there? Is there like a moment where you're going to be like, oh, man.
Starting point is 00:38:05 To be honest, I think, you know, if that moment does happen, I think there would be, for me, I'm very much a tunnel-focused guy. So it's always on it. But I think in that moment there will be a moment of reflect and gratitude. I was back 150. This has been a journey. And that's not the end of the destination. It's just about to do that.
Starting point is 00:38:33 But it's a journey to say, man, it's been pretty special. Even in the sucky parts. Even in the hard parts. You can also learn to appreciate that. It sounds hard. The listeners are going, what? You appreciate those moments? Yeah. Because they make the good moments that much
Starting point is 00:38:48 better. The sun is brightest after its darkest dawn. What's the walk-up song for that moment? You can put that in your repertoire. You can put that in your repertoire. Got it. I got it for you. What's the walk-up song for that moment? Oh, there we go. That moment? Do you have one in minor league? Yeah. What is it? The last one I had
Starting point is 00:39:04 was a song called God of Angel Armies by Chris Tomlin is it upbeat is it rock is a good one it's like um it's like praise and worship it's i like it though um i know who goes before me i know who stands beside the god of angel armies is always on my side let's go that's some good i also feel like that pitcher is like oh shoot you know like Hopefully he's like, you know, it's always a mind game with the pitcher. Do you point the bat? No. No. That's too humble for that.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I did. You're like, point it up there. Then a guy threw me a curveball and I almost fell. I almost fell. Yeah, I've done that a few times, too. And then the pitchers look at me. Yeah, laughing. Yeah, I got these angels, dude.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Well, Tim, we're very lucky that you stopped through here, man. Thank you. I appreciate it. It's really fun, man. It has been awesome following your career, man. Thank you. You deserve everything that's coming. I think Majors is coming.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I can't wait to see it. And so thankful for you. And you look incredible, obviously. You should. The model thing, just put it on the back. Just think about it later in life. I have those same jeans. I don't look the same. They look nothing like that. I got to tell you, you you look incredible, obviously. You should, the model thing, just put it on the back, just think about it later in life. I have those same jeans, I don't look the same. I gotta tell you, you guys are really fun.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Really fun to talk to. I'll tell you this, I've gone through quite a few interviews, and not all of them are fun. You guys are really fun. What is a question you get all the time? What is the standard Tim Tebow question? Which one do you like more, football or baseball? I get that probably the most. I'm the standard Tim Tebow question? Which one do you like more, football
Starting point is 00:40:25 or baseball? I get that probably the most. I'm happy I didn't ask that. Because I played both sports professionally as well. That's it for Tim Tebow. Again, Tebow might not be everybody's cup of tea, but he's just such a nice guy and such a genuine guy that it's really hard not to like him. I'm looking forward to those games next week. Hopefully he goes yard a couple times. That would be pretty sweet to see in person. So shout out Tim Tebow. Good guy.
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Starting point is 00:42:11 They've got all of us exclusively chawing on BlackBuffalo. So if you haven't tried it, it really is good stuff. Warning, this product contains nicotine. Nicotine is an addictive chemical. All right, moving along. The next guy we got coming up here was on the show fairly recently, but it was a very good interview, so I'm going to run it again. And he's another one of these guys who's just very misconstrued.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Everyone's got an opinion of him. The stuff that gets put out there in the media about him doesn't exactly do him any favors, but that's obviously outside of his control. But we got to sit down with him, and he is just a really down-to-earth dude, the kind of guy who you'd love to smash a couple brewskis with. He's definitely a guy you want on your side, and he's hilarious. So, ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Watt.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who is a three-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year That's nothing to sneeze at That's nothing to sneeze at at all He was a five-time All-Pro A Walter Payton Man of the Year Two-time NFL Sacks Leader And a hell of a philanthropist
Starting point is 00:43:18 Now he's an executive producer of a TV show A host of a TV show He's taking over the world while saving it Ladies and gentlemen, Justin James, J.J. Watt. You are too kind. Thank you. Hey, no problem, man. Oh, that's true, though. That's an insane resume to think about. I was watching your Wisconsin commencement speech, which you did incredible, by the way. I was trying to just keep pace with you after what you did at the NFL draft. Well, I think you were much more motivating than I was, which is a smart
Starting point is 00:43:53 move. Were you nervous as hell for that? You know, I honestly wasn't. I was excited about it, and I would have been nervous if I had to write it down, and I would have been nervous if they made me read it off a prompter like initially they talked about. But once they gave me the okay to just kind of talk and do it off the top of my head, then I wasn't as nervous because I knew what I wanted to say, you know. You freestyled that? You look so calm and collected. I had no idea that was just off the top of the head. That's incredible.
Starting point is 00:44:19 See, if you talk slow enough and you give yourself enough pauses, you can come up with anything. That's my entire. I was just winging entire, I just want to make them laugh. I mean, it's, I'm from Wisconsin. So like, it's the easiest thing. It felt like I was at home. It felt like I was talking to a bunch of my family members. And I mean, you talk about spotted cow, you talk about cheese curds and you're automatically going to be off to a hot start. Are you happy you went before Robert Smith? Because now I think if you're a rich person, you're expected to pay off to a hot start now. Are you happy you went before Robert Smith? Because now I think if you're a rich person, you're expected to pay off college debt. I mean, I came in and I was thinking like, I was like, all right, I'm not trying to blow the world away here. I'm not going
Starting point is 00:44:55 to be on like any list, the top 10, but maybe for 2019, if I could make like the top five speeches of 2019 and then Robert Smith comes along and just wipes the whole map out. Well, there goes that. My 2019 commencement speech is getting zero YouTube hits from here out. Really bad timing, too. He didn't even let you really sit on it for a week. It was like three days later. What a baller move. Are you kidding me, though? I mean, can you imagine just being able to know that you're going to step up there? Like, whatever you're going to say before that, you could literally say nothing important for 10 minutes. And then, I'm in a bad restuitant lounge. I mean, it's insane.
Starting point is 00:45:37 You said in that speech, I think the thing that I took away most from it is when you said that both positive reinforcement and negative reinforcement can be a motivator for you. And you thought back to the night you were drafted, partying with your friends, your high school coaches, your family. Everybody was so proud of you. And that night before you went to bed, you decided to check the Twitter. And the first thing you saw was a Houston Texan diehard fan at the Houston Texan draft party, booing obnoxiously directly into the camera out of anger of drafting this white kid from Wisconsin. I took away from that, that you are a massive chip on the shoulder guy. If you say I can't do something, I'm going to do it. Am I right there? Absolutely. Yes. And what you've done since then is go on to become the
Starting point is 00:46:21 most dominant football player on the field whenever you're on it. That has to feel good. And how often, whenever you're working out, because I hear you over workout, by the way, you work out too much. What are, what does JJ Watts say to himself while working out? Like, fuck that guy on draft night. There's a lot of people who think I'm nothing. Like, what is the self motivation to JJ Watts to continue getting better? Yeah, I think there's a lot of that where you find it from different sources. So obviously, immediately after that, I had that in my head. I wanted to prove those people wrong. I wanted to earn their respect.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And then throughout your career, you find different things, whether it's somebody saying somebody else is better than you, or it's somebody has more sacks than you, or it's there's always something to chase. But I think that over my career, that's probably one of the biggest things that I've learned is that I mean, I used to read Twitter all the time. I used to read all the stories. I used to read all the articles and I let it mess with me early on because you get mad about it. I'm getting mad about somebody at ESPN who writes an article and says that I'm number two instead of number one, or I'm getting mad because this person didn't vote for me for defensive player of the year. And I'm like, finally, I learned, I realized, I was like, why do I care? Why do I care what this
Starting point is 00:47:35 person has to say? And I think the injury is really helping me with that. Because when I was injured for two years in a row, you realize how quickly people forget about you. So why am I putting so much stock into what these people say when five years after my career, they're not going to care about me. So I learned to put my stock into my family, my friends and my teammates. And really that was the most important thing to me now. That's incredible to think of that moment of freedom that you let yourself had, had to be an impressive one. You're reading all these things from people that don't matter saying things about you. And then that moment of just being like, fuck them. That
Starting point is 00:48:08 had to be a great, that honestly, that had to be an incredibly freeing feeling. It was huge. I mean, it was cause I remember early in my injuries, you know, after my first injury where I'm out for the season, you get people saying he's done. He's never going to come back. He's never going to play again. Even if he does, he's not going to be the same. And that helped drove me down. And I was like, Jesus, this am I? Can I? And one of the biggest things that helped me was my girlfriend. I mean, she literally helped build my confidence back up, saying, screw all that. Don't listen to them. Just go day by day. And so when I have a tough day and a down day before I had somebody around every day to help pick me up, it was just me,
Starting point is 00:48:45 my thoughts, and then social media. And so that was another really helpful thing to have her in the house every day to kind of be a balancing factor where I'm reading social media, how bad I am or how bad I'm going to be. And then she's just like, no, you're not going to be good. And I was like, oh, all right, maybe I will be. Did you, did you, cause you were very private with your private life. Uh, and I don't know if it was a real thing or not, but people were saying you go to bed at like 9 PM. You do this, you don't go out. And then your personal life was kind of non-existent.
Starting point is 00:49:16 And then I remember there was an awkward moment on a red carpet. We don't have to get into where you kind of got put in a bad spot, but then you started dating this professional soccer player named Kiel named who? Kalea. Kalea. And it seems as if it's almost like you found a missing piece the way you act on social media. This is just me from an outsider standpoint.
Starting point is 00:49:38 It seems like you found like a real yin to your yan. And it seems like it's a really beautiful operation right now. I appreciate it. She's great. You know, I mean, you're going through earlier in your career and you have like I said, social media, you go to these events, you do all these things in the world wants to know so much about your personal life, but you're trying to figure it out yourself.
Starting point is 00:49:58 So you don't want to, you don't want to be out there posting and doing all these different things when you don't know exactly the direction you're going. So once I found Kay and and we i obviously knew that she was special uh then you feel comfortable with it and then you don't feel like you have to be trying to live up to everybody's expectations or what they want you're just you're comfortable and happy with your life and you share it when you want to share it you don't when you you don't want to. And I mean, that's the biggest thing. When I come home at the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:50:27 if I can make her happy and she makes me happy, I mean, who cares what the world thinks, you know? I respect that so much. And if you make your dogs tail wag, I mean, that's all we're really looking to do. That's why I'm sitting in my driveway right now because as soon as I open that garage door, my dogs are going to go bananas.
Starting point is 00:50:44 You want to talk about a way to not have kids for a long time? Just get a couple of dogs. Oh, amen. Amen. I'm on your team there. Let's go back to the chip on the shoulder. Is that why you left central Michigan and went to Wisconsin? Because you thought you were destined for something bigger than central
Starting point is 00:50:59 Michigan, or is it strictly because you wanted to go back home to Wisconsin? No, I wanted more. I mean, I was at Central Michigan. I started at tight end there, but they ran the spread, and they had, I mean, I think I played like 15 plays a game, maybe 20, and there was writing on the wall that they wanted to move me to offensive tackle. So I said, if I'm going to do all this, I'm going to put in all this work.
Starting point is 00:51:24 I mean, you know how hard it is, off-season workouts in college and all those workouts you do in classes. I said, if I'm going to put in all this work, I'm going to take the biggest shot I can take. I'm going to do it all. I'm either going to go big or I'm going to fail. And thankfully for my parents, I mean, I told them when I was leaving high school, don't worry, I got college paid for.
Starting point is 00:51:42 And we're a middle-class family. I mean, so it's not like we were rich and they had money in case I, no, they started planning for my brother's colleges because they thought mine was paid for. So for them to be able to tell me, okay, we can pay for one year at Wisconsin and allow me to gamble on myself. That was one of the biggest things in the, also a motivating factor for me. I wasn't only gambling on myself, but I was also proving to my parents that their investment was worth it. Oh my God, that's awesome. Butch Jones, he was at West Virginia
Starting point is 00:52:11 before he got up there in Central Michigan. What a wild fucking animal that guy is. Wild. You don't have to say anything, I will. Wild, wild, wild, wild animal. You get drafted to Houston, a guy boos, and then you just go on to be an absolute game wrecker on all four downs. Why did you choose to play special teams
Starting point is 00:52:29 and fuck up everybody's life for a long time? Yeah, let's talk about it. I mean, you're one of the most fun players I've ever played against. Hold on, we're going to clip that for sure. First of all, I mean, if we really want to get deep into things i'm i'm still upset that you didn't get to my night football game i mean oh we're gonna clip that too thank you jj just keep them coming i just just to see the pure brilliance that you would come up with on a weekly basis and to see uh i mean it would have been the most the most clip worthy
Starting point is 00:53:00 program of all time so i'm on your side in that one hey you got a big brain i can already tell i respect that a lot like that a lot your bicep for those that aren't watching on youtube i went and literally got a huge pump in right beforehand because i wanted jj to be impressed with my sleeveless hoodie i got a one day sleeveless shirt thing or is this a daily it's a it's my life really i get kicked out of a lot of places because of it. I love it, man. A little sleeveless shirt and jorts. Nothing beats it. It's funny you say that. I mean, that's literally my...
Starting point is 00:53:30 Those suckers are riding high, too, brother. Well, when you got quads, you got to let the world eat. Let the world know you got them. How often do you punt now? Sorry, I just turned the interview on you. How often do you still punt? No, I'm punting everyone.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I'm leaving the options on the table. You know what? I didn't get that Monday night football gig. I didn't, wasn't certain if I was going to get a big enough media job to keep going. Cause I need a big goal, right? So I need like a,
Starting point is 00:53:52 Hey, I got this big thing happening. Now granted these podcasts massive, we run a business. Our business is good, but I need something large, like in the background that at night when I lay down, like,
Starting point is 00:54:00 okay, I also got to do this. I got to focus on this. And when I didn't get the Monday night football gig, I was like, you know, there's a lot of money being tossed around to people that kick this. And when I didn't get the Monday Night Football gig, I was like, you know, there's a lot of money being tossed around to people that kick balls, and there's a lot of shitty ball kickers out there right now.
Starting point is 00:54:10 So I went out on a high school field a few times. I'm still kicking like once a week, twice a week. I feel good. Good. Man, that's awesome. That's one thing I've learned is that, like, you look at investment opportunities, you look at business opportunities, you look at movies, TV, everything.
Starting point is 00:54:24 We make a lot of money to chase a ball around. It's pretty damn cool. Yeah, it's really, you make, I mean, you're FaceTiming us from your house right now. There is a Area 51 gate right behind you. But speaking of a lot of money, whenever the city of Houston needed somebody to really step up big time, you did that.
Starting point is 00:54:45 And I was just reading through some stats that you tweeted out. After the hurricane, after the flood and everything that happened to Houston, it was terrible. It was a national, I mean, it was an emergency down there. J.J. Watt, as you heard, started a GoFundMe basically that took off. $41.6 million was the final total. He's currently, since then, it's been one year basically, 600 homes have either been rebuilt or are being rebuilding right now 420 child care centers in the city of houston
Starting point is 00:55:12 16 000 children being served 26 million meals have been served and 6 500 mental and physical health exams have happened just because of a gofundundMe that this meathead from Wisconsin started and saved a city. Did you feel as if like, hey, I don't really know. Nobody knows how to act in that situation, but I assume you just said, let's just take one small step here, raise what we can raise. I'll donate a million. I'll match. And then once it gets going, is there a moment where you're like, oh shit, like we really have a real cool opportunity here? Yeah. So, I mean, obviously the initial goal was 200 grand and I knew what I was going to do with that. I was like, all right, I'm going to buy food. I'm
Starting point is 00:55:49 going to buy water. I'm going to buy toilet paper, diapers. I'm going to buy the stuff that people need. I'm going to go distribute it in communities. And then as you saw, I mean, it literally took on a life of its own. I mean, the very first night that it happened, it started to get up to 500 grand. The website kept crashing. We literally had a private detective get the phone number of the creator of youcaring.com, called him at his home house and had to get him out of his bed. And he went and figured out how to get the website back up and running. I mean, this guy literally had no clue what was going on because good morning yeah and it just hey guy we're raising a couple million here and we need you to pop out of bed and figure it out and then it just blew up and obviously celebrities and people from all over
Starting point is 00:56:40 the country and all over the world and then you have to figure out the logistics of okay we're accepting donations from all 50 states and different countries. Now my 501c3 has to file paperwork to allow for that. And just the logistics of it all was insane. And oh, by the way, it's also the end of training camp and we have to figure it out because the season starts in like 10 days. So, I mean, it was, it was insane. I have an unbelievable group of people who helped me out and a ton of great organizations who we've distributed the money to and have helped us. So I've had a ton of great people help me out. I never, ever want to take credit for it as a one man operation because it was so many great people. The city of Houston, whenever we would
Starting point is 00:57:19 play down there, your picture was on every other page of the program i mean it was your picture was up on the jumbotron every single they played that turned down for what thing and the entire place went nut for you you literally from that guy booing to a couple years of dominance later became the face of houston basically and then whenever you did all that are you going to get into politics are you going to be the fucking governor of Texas or are you going to run for president one day? What are we going to do? I gotta, I gotta get some more sacks first. I've tried to think about what I'm going to do after my career, man.
Starting point is 00:57:55 But every time I try and think about it, it's just, there's too many, like you could go movies, you could go TV, you could go politics, you could go anywhere you want. And there's just too much to think about and i have i truly feel like i have a lot more football left in me and i'm excited about that so i'm focused on that at the moment i'm enjoying it i'm loving it and it's it's a hard game to give up man i just i love the daily work which like you said trying to get better at something and still trying to prove that even now after two years of injuries, I still have a lot. You got 16 sacks last year. Nobody's talking about you at all. Like whenever I was going through the stats of last year and I read that you had 16
Starting point is 00:58:35 stats last or sacks last year, I was like, damn, I didn't know. I had no idea. Nobody's even talking about the JJ. What nobody's even talking about the Houston Texans making the playoffs. And with a quarterback that seems to be legit for the first time, nobody's even talking about the Houston Texans making the playoffs and with a quarterback that seems to be legit for the first time. Nobody's really talking about the Houston Texans. That's got to feel pretty good going into training camp that you guys are kind of a underrated weapon right now. Yeah. You know, I mean, the thing that people immediately talk to me about in my interviews are either off the field things, obviously, or the two years of injuries. And I've been trying to kind of put the two years injuries behind me because like you said last year I was fortunate enough to get back to playing good football and so I think it I think it's going to take at least one more year of playing at that level before
Starting point is 00:59:13 people forget about what happened with the injuries and stuff and remember what I can do on the field and then we do have a good team we have a very good team we have a lot of good guys we have good chemistry obviously we ran into a good Colts team in the playoffs, but I think that it's a matter of making it and doing it on the field rather than talking about what we're going to be able to do or where we want to go. This city of Houston hasn't really had anything since – I mean, when I first got here, we won our first playoff game ever.
Starting point is 00:59:42 We went to the playoffs for the first time ever, and we won our first playoff game. So we're trying the playoffs for the first time ever, and we won our first playoff game. So we're trying to take that next step and be able to do big things. And it's just you can't do it by talking. You have to work and do it. I say all the time that my favorite place to play was down there in Houston at the whatever you guys call it now, stadium. It was a –
Starting point is 01:00:01 Yeah, you dribbled an onside kick 10 yards and recovered it yourself. Pretty awesome, huh? When you watched it, it was pretty cool. Yeah. Nothing pissed me off more than that. I mean, I'm just sitting there on the bench. I'm like, all right, we got a kickoff coming here. I got plenty of time.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Just sipping Gatorade, watching the big screen. And not even really paying that much attention. And then all of a sudden, I'm like, well, what the hell was that? And then fucking number one, just walking out of the pile with the ball. Hey, man. They showed the replay in there, I hope. And I hope you saw it. And you were like, yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 01:00:39 I don't think I've ever seen that in an NFL game. I don't think that's a pretty crazy thing. I was so mad because I was like, there's no way we actually just allowed that to happen. And I was like, we had to have a guy in the middle, right? I mean, did he at least knock somebody over to get the ball? And I'm looking, I'm like, no, no, he didn't. He just waltzed out there.
Starting point is 01:00:59 I mean, it wasn't even like you were running that hard. I know. Yeah, I mean. And then it was a wild game. I mean, I don't know if that was, that was the loudest I've ever heard our stadium. That game.
Starting point is 01:01:10 It was awesome. It was piercing. It was like actually piercing. And anytime I get asked like your favorite place to play, I did get to play at Seattle, but everybody's like your favorite place to play. I always say Houston, man,
Starting point is 01:01:20 it was always like a primetime game. It always felt like it was like a Superbowl, like a playoff game. And the crowd was into it. They time game it always felt like it was like a super bowl like a playoff game and the crowd was into it they were loud and they were into it that doesn't happen everywhere i'll be excited to watch if you guys could continue to win what that place is going to do it's going to be incredible i agree man you know when you start winning the place gets nuts they love football down here i mean we have the rockets who are doing great we have the astros who have obviously been unbelievable um we have the soccer teams.
Starting point is 01:01:47 But, I mean, at the end of the day, Texas is a football state. So when you string some wins together, it's a blast, man. Is this ultimate tag show going to suck or what? Is it pretty good? I mean, okay, for those that don't know, a J.J. Watt production has happened with his brothers, Derek and TJ, who are also in the NFL. Congrats to the Watt family, by the way, hitting a triple for NFL kids. That's pretty incredible. But you got into this game show type world.
Starting point is 01:02:13 You executive produced the show. You hosted the show. It's coming in early 2020. It seems like an incredible concept. Were you amazed by how hard it was? Did you enjoy the process? Is it going to be good? All that stuff. So my brothers and I host the show. And whenever you put all three of us into a room, it's a bit of a cluster as it is.
Starting point is 01:02:33 I've obviously done a little TV. Both my brothers really haven't done anything. So when I came on board, I said, I want my brothers to host with me. And you could tell Fox was a little bit like they've never hosted before we don't know what they can do and I said you know just trust me we'll figure it out and we got to the first day of rehearsal before we started filming and every Fox executive was kind of looking around like oh we're fucked I mean we have one that was like nervous and stuttering on his lines. We had another one who couldn't read the teleprompter. And I was like, oh, no.
Starting point is 01:03:10 And then literally the lights came on when it was time for it to really happen and the show started, and it was like brand new people. I think it's just that athlete in you where you don't really like the rehearsal. Once the show starts and once the lights come on, they were awesome awesome and it was so much fun to watch them grow and get better and for all of us to interact and mess around and then the show itself is way better than i thought it was going to be so i was really excited about it because tag is a game we've all played and we take it to these crazy levels we have one that's a steel cage, 30 feet up in the air. You don't have any harnesses or anything. So if you fall, you fall right onto a mat 30 feet down. We have another
Starting point is 01:03:49 one that you're like jumping off of trampolines and stuff. So I was excited about it. But then when I saw it in person, I saw how unbelievable these athletes are. And I mean, it's physical. People are smashing their faces into stuff. People are getting injuries. It's like a sport. It's not really a game show. It was a ton of fun. We have 12 professional taggers. There's a little of that American Gladiators feel to it where you're going to see the same taggers
Starting point is 01:04:14 every week. They're some of the best athletes I've ever seen. I'm in the NFL and I see obviously a lot of athletes all the time. There's a couple athletes on Ultimate Tag that are the best athletes I've ever seen. What are you going to do? You just got to stay away for like two minutes and you win? Stay away from the professional taggers? So there are four different rounds. And so it starts out with three men and three women, obviously different categories. And then
Starting point is 01:04:36 after two games, there are an elimination. So then there's two left. And so basically, each game is different. So the first game is literally just stay alive as long as you can if you stay alive longer than the other people you get extra points and then the second game is kind of like kind of like a capture the flag where the more flags you capture the more points you get and then you get eliminated if you didn't have the same the most points then you go to the next one and it could be the dome way up high or it's a or it could be this one down on the ground and then you get to the finale and however many points you had you get a head start on your competitor
Starting point is 01:05:09 and it's cool man it's i we wanted to try it and then we saw it and we were like there's no way how competitive we are way too dangerous and we would get caught so easily i hope it does incredible and i feel like with everything else that you do, I don't know your brothers as well, but with everything else that you do, you seem to literally hit home runs and it's, uh, you're an incredible specimen, brother. You're like a superhero of a human. It's a really impressive thing and a cool thing to think about you just being this working class guy from Wisconsin out there, changing the world and helping the world out along the way. It's cool. Thank you, man. I appreciate it it i have to say one thing for you obviously all the incredible things that you've done when i i got a text message yesterday from a buddy of mine who lives in ireland he lives in dublin and he texted
Starting point is 01:05:54 me and he said hey i heard you're going to be on the pat mcafee show this week and i said yeah how do you know he goes dude i listen to it all the time be sure to tell him he's got a massive following in ireland slain, boys. Sláinte. On site over in Dublin, Temple Bar. Hey, not a bad idea. I think we should definitely do that. Maybe you get into the agent game, too. Start booking me places. That'd be fantastic. We'll get you on Ultimate Tag next week.
Starting point is 01:06:17 You'd be our announcer. I'm not athletic enough, but I'd love to. All right, JJ. I just want to say thank you so much for doing this, man. You're a massive star. You coming on this little podcast, I really appreciate it. Hey, I appreciate it. You make people laugh. People love watching you.
Starting point is 01:06:33 You have a lot of positivity. I love all the social media and everything that you do, man. You've been a fun competitor for me to go against over the years, and you've been a fun follower for me on social media and all the work that you do. Keep spreading laughs. Keep spreading cheer and uh we need more of that in the world brother hey hey hey yes that made me feel good you don't need me to make you feel good when you got biceps like that yay i was looking at your instagram you got quads on your arms bro i saw
Starting point is 01:07:04 you flexing like we're coming Leckler coming on soon? Yeah, I think I'm going to have him. So there's like a point in time. We're going to have Goat Week where I'm going to have Leckler, Vinatieri. I think I'm going to try to get Janikowski. It's going to be called Goat Week, and I'm excited for it. Leckler, I think, is coming to Indy for it. I think I got him to talk to him into it when he's on some beer.
Starting point is 01:07:21 Yes. So when you have that, I want to send in a video question or something because i want to pepper that old man with it hey he's the greatest man he is literally the greatest human and punter of all time i love that man he is the best man he is a walking drinking fishing machine and he can punt the shit out of ladies and gentlemen soon to be four-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year. Probably another Walter Payton Man of the Year award on the way as well. Definitely a six-time All-Pro after next year. Mr. Justin James.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Turned down for what? Justin. Nope. JJ. What? Thank you, brother. Hey, good luck with Ultimate Tag, dude. Thank you, man. Hey, good luck with Ultimate Tag, dude. Thank you, man. I appreciate
Starting point is 01:08:08 it. Y'all have a wonderful day. Send me the info when you guys are going live. I will do that. Good luck, dude. Have a good one, man. Thanks. He's just a good guy. I envision that he's probably having a hell of a time today on the 4th of July. Big time
Starting point is 01:08:24 America guy. If you don't like JJ WJ. Watt, I highly recommend you reassess that. Okay, this next little piece I wanted to add. Everyone's heard it by now, but it was probably one of my favorite parts of 2019 so far. Pat went insanely viral with it, obviously. We knew he was going to. Pat went insanely viral with it, obviously. We knew he was going to.
Starting point is 01:08:50 And there's a little bit of behind the scenes in terms of what went into writing his speech and what he left out, what he wanted to say, what he didn't get to say, all that kind of stuff. So here's the clip of Pat announcing Bobby Okereke at this year's draft in Nashville. A little inside information. I planned on zero shots at the Tennessee Titans. Zero shots. We know that. We can verify that. Because we have a pretty big following down in Nashville and a lot of Titans fans.
Starting point is 01:09:14 And the Tennessee Titans are very for the brand. I mean, they're one of the first teams to put up for the brand. I planned on zero shots at the Tennessee Titans fans. But once Reggie basically goes viral for doing it, I'm left no other option. You had to take his back almost. You took a shot at yourself as well. And by the way,
Starting point is 01:09:35 I feel there was a lot of positive response to my thing, which I'm very thankful for everybody. I don't want to say we knew it was going to happen, but I think we all pretty much knew it was going to happen up there. You give anybody that has just a little bit of a gift to gab in that situation with 200,000 people alive and millions of people watching in that
Starting point is 01:09:54 setting, there's going to be a chance for something magical to happen. Please welcome from West Virginia university, 2014 Colts man of the year. And he is, we have a seven second man of America,ts Man of the Year. He is. Do we have a seven-second delay? He's Man of America, not Man of the Year. He's Man of America.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Hello, Nashville. I'm not going to say a single word about the Tennessee Titans record against the Indianapolis Colts because I was a punter, and there's no reason for me to talk about that. With that being said, we did not punt much against the Tennessee Titans, so you probably have no clue who I am to begin. Two years ago, when I retired from the Colts, I retired alongside two greats, Robert Mathis and Joe Reitz.
Starting point is 01:10:42 A couple months later, I watched the draft. Robert Mathis announced the pick. Joe Reitz announced the pick. And then an orangutan announced the fourth round draft pick. I was replaced by a zoo animal. I was not upset about it because the orangutan was terrible at his job. With that being said, the Indianapolis Colts are the hottest team not only in the AFC South but the entire NFL a young nucleus surrounding
Starting point is 01:11:12 the Stanford nerd Andrew Luck two old pros were drafted last year ten this year and with the 89th pick of the 2019 NFL Draft, the Indianapolis Colts, Jim Irsay and Chris Ballard select future Hall of Famer linebacker from Stanford, Bobby Okereke. Oh, Okereke. Pat McAfee, everybody. I feel like I didn't even bury the Titans that much. I feel like it was a very, very subtle shot. There were some old white people, though, from Tennessee that did not love it.
Starting point is 01:11:54 But I had an absolute blast. It was a really fucking cool day. I will say that. Very cool day. Nick had a great tweet, and I wanted to follow up on it. That was basically a quarter of what you had planned on saying yeah when did you decide to fucking shorten it and maybe so the night before when i was watching thursday night and goodell was just going up announcing the pick and they were moving on i was very worried i was like maybe i shouldn't be saying anywhere near as much as i
Starting point is 01:12:20 so that because i wondered myself i was like man i hope Pat just doesn't go up there and do like, with the food and the pick. Hello, Tennessee. But on the plane, I was told, I forget who I talked to. Somebody told me that Nate Burleson. Oh, Adam Lefkoe. Yeah. Adam Lefkoe.
Starting point is 01:12:36 I talked to Lefkoe because he took our sticker off of his fucking studio. Right. Yep. Which, come on. Questionable. Come on. I talked to him and he said, you're announcing it. You know, Nate Burleson's words from that draft day are actually printed on the Lions practice facility.
Starting point is 01:12:52 So they actually have him quoted on the Lions. So I was like, okay, let me see what this is. Because I've never really paid attention to other people doing draft picks. Then I watched his speech and I was like, oh, okay. So I can talk a little bit. So I can talk a little bit. And then I kind of watched as the day went on. And I kind of got a feel of how long I could go and how long I couldn't go
Starting point is 01:13:09 and what was too much and what wasn't enough. And that's when I decided to take out the Johnny Unitas speech and the Peyton Manning speech and the Mayflower trip from Baltimore in 86 to Indianapolis and just go straight to the hits, just go straight to the heat
Starting point is 01:13:27 for the modern Indianapolis Colts team. But yeah, there was quite a little, everybody was very positive. I mean, a lot of heels in the WWE quotes we did were like, this is a fucking perfect heel promo, which I respect a lot. I do wish I could have taken them on a little bit more of a ride because I think the ending would have been beautiful.
Starting point is 01:13:49 But I just enjoyed the fuck out. I mean, when you walk out there and there's 200,000 people there, the amount of energy that you just immediately feel, it's like, okay, here we go. Like, this is where I'm supposed to be. This is exactly where I'm supposed to be. Anywhere we go now, that's always one of the first things people say to Pat was, hey, you know, your draft announcement was hilarious.
Starting point is 01:14:13 And it was. He won the draft weekend. So had to include that. Before we get into this last conversation here, I want to enlighten everyone about probably my favorite pair of shorts on the market right now. I'm talking about bird dogs, okay? These are gym shorts with a built-in silky soft inner liner that damn near makes underwear obsolete. We're in the absolute heart of short season right now. You're not going to be caught dead going outside in a pair of pants. And if it's short season, that means it's bird dog season. I actually wore a pair of these down to the Bahamas, had them on in the ocean, and they're just simply delightful. There's really
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Starting point is 01:15:51 All right, and to close out the show, we have a kind of a bittersweet conversation between Pat and Jared Lorenzen from a while back. Jared unfortunately passed away yesterday. Our condolences go out to his family and his friends. Couldn't meet a nicer guy. Just very humble, very genuine, very sweet. And he was a fighter. He was a warrior. He battled. This conversation with Pat is very enlightening, uplifting, hilarious. And we just wanted to pay respects to him and celebrate his life any way we could. So, ladies and gentlemen, Jared Lorenzen. Joining me now from Kentucky, where he was born and raised,
Starting point is 01:16:40 went to the University of Kentucky. He was once a New York Giant and Indianapolis Colts. A commissioner of an indoor football league. He's one of my favorite athletes whenever I was a child growing up just because he bucked the trend of everything that was going on. Ladies and gentlemen, Jared Lorenzen. What's up? Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Thank you. Thank you, sir. How are you? I'm great, Jared. How are you i'm great jared how are you brother you know what relaxing having a being a dad's a hell of a deal so i like it all right so you got two kids now i just i asked you if your uh profile picture was you and your wife and your son but that was your daughter so i was in an awkward situation it's okay i mean i'm sure you've been in more awkward situations well i called a uh I caught a lady pregnant who I'd been drinking with for three hours,
Starting point is 01:17:28 and that was probably the most awkward situation of my life. Oops. All right, so Jared, let's get to it. Growing up, were you always like you were the most athletic guy and you were also the biggest guy in the neighborhood or what? I don't know about athletic, but I was always the biggest. I was 13-3 at birth. Holy shit. Is that large? What's standard? Eight, nine.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Holy fuck. So you're a full 50% larger than most humans at birth. Yeah, I was like a six-month-old, basically. So, yeah, you know, I've just always been bigger. And I got really lucky. yeah, you know, I've just always been bigger. And I got really lucky. My coach, when I was five or six years old,
Starting point is 01:18:12 saw me pick up a football before practice one day. Now kids are just playing. And I threw the ball, and he said, can you do that again? I said, yeah, I can do that again. So I threw it again. He said, you're my quarterback. And I said, okay, what's that do? Because I was five.
Starting point is 01:18:25 I didn't know. And next thing you know, I had him for four or five years and I just didn't know any better. Covington, Kentucky, I assume is a pretty big football town. Kentucky, a big football place? Fort Thomas, yeah. That's where I live now. Highlands High School is a pretty big, we're known for football. Did you ever think about getting into basketball? Kentucky's a full basketball state. I did play basketball. I was actually All-State three years in a row.
Starting point is 01:18:53 Okay. Decent little basketball player. We had a really, really, really good player who could have gone anywhere he wanted. Instead, he chose to play tight end with me. So we were pretty good. So you go to college, he chose to play tight end with me. So we were pretty good. So you go to college, you go to Kentucky. You have this left arm that is an absolute cannon. Absolute cannon. How far could you throw the ball back in the day whenever you used to really get into it?
Starting point is 01:19:15 The furthest I remember throwing was 82. So yeah, I was pretty lucky. That is a fucking hose, Jerry. It was, yeah. Consistently, my backup and I would have every day in the summer, we would have a challenge where we'd get on a knee and we had to hit the crossbar. So that was, I mean, that's 60 yards plus, you know, you got to go up 10 feet.
Starting point is 01:19:42 From the 50, you mean? From the 50, you would do that? From the 50, we had a knee on the ground and we had to hit the crossbar when you got to college um the first were you you were a full scholarship obviously out of high school to go to kentucky yes what year did you start did you start as a freshman do you get redshirted i redshirted what was your redshirt freshman year like um i got big i found out a couple things. Okay. I found out that they say class is optional.
Starting point is 01:20:10 You don't have to go. That's not a good thing. I ended up with a, and this is amazing that I even got through school. And you may be proud of this. You may not be. A.6 my first semester. BAC? No.
Starting point is 01:20:28 That was, I wish. No, that was my grade point average. .6. Yeah, I passed one class. Did you get put on academic probation, I assume, there? Yes, I was straight on academic probation. We had something at UK called academic bankruptcy, which means I could retake. We had something in the U.K. called academic bankruptcy, which means I could retake three classes and it wouldn't count.
Starting point is 01:20:50 So I retook the three I failed and got B's on them, so it was like it never happened. Wow. Kentucky's definitely going to get investigated for fucking by the NCAA after you just told that story, for sure. That's okay. It's all good. I'm sure the limitations are out now.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I mean, come on. All right. So did you start your redshirt freshman year or when did you finally get a chance to play? Yeah, my redshirt freshman year, we had Hal Mummey as our coach, who if you don't know him, he's basically the father of Mike Leach and, you know, Neil Brown and all these guys that throw the ball over the place. So I was 19 years old throwing the ball 56 57 times a game that's dream come true right for a quarterback especially one with a cannon never i mean anything for me i was going after tim couch who had just got the number one overall pick another guy dusty bonner just took us to a bowl game i mean i was like this is. So, did you have a, what was your mentality
Starting point is 01:21:45 whenever you were the redshirt freshman in Kentucky? Were you more Brett Favre or were you Calculator? Were you just letting that thing fucking fly? Oh, it's a Favre, 100%. There was not a person I couldn't throw it through. There was not a throw I couldn't make. I mean, I was just slinging it. Everybody's open.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Oh, hence the 21 picks and the 19 touchdowns. I mean, so, yeah, it was bad. All right, so I don't want to talk about it because I assume that you get sick and tired of talking about it. Whenever you started, you became folklore. Yes. Quickness by everybody. It was because you were a large dude. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:21 And you could sling it. And you were mobile, too. You were nimble, like a ninja at your size. It was incredible. large dude and you could sling it and you were mobile too you were like uh you were you were nimble like a like a ninja whenever it was at your size it was incredible yeah i was uh my first first ever collegiate play was at louisville and i had a 33 yard rush which was my career long okay and and a uh my first completion or my first pass was a completion for a touchdown to Dougie Allen. So I'm sitting in the first year going, this ain't too bad. And then, you know, I was also weighing in, we'll say close to 300.
Starting point is 01:22:54 But yeah, you're right. I mean, I just would run around and do whatever I could. 300 pound is a pretty large college O-lineman. Yeah. So that was the big thing. So every time we would play on CBS or ESPN, it was always the fun game of put the quarterback in a 70s jersey and line him up next to the lineman and say, hey, who's the quarterback? So it was like, yeah. Did you get sick of it?
Starting point is 01:23:20 You had to have. No, because I really liked being on TV, so I didn't really care. I was a media whore at the time, so I'll take it. So were you a superstar on campus? I assume you were. I wouldn't call it a superstar. Everybody just kind of knows who you are. I mean, you're the biggest guy.
Starting point is 01:23:38 They're selling – well, I'm sorry, they weren't selling my jersey, but they happened to be selling a 22 jersey. You know how that goes. I mean, I think people knew me, but they happened to be selling a 22 jersey. Uh-huh. You know how that goes. But, so, yeah, I mean, I think people knew me, but, you know, I wouldn't call it superstar. All right. We're still basketball school. I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 01:23:52 BBN is very much a basketball situation. Do you get into college basketball at all? Do you watch? Oh, yeah. Yeah. How do you feel about Patino? Just everything that's happened to him. It could not have been better.
Starting point is 01:24:04 I mean, it could not happen to a better person, better human being. The city, I despise the city. It couldn't happen to a better place. I just absolutely fucking hate Louisville. And every chance I go, I throw the L's down. I just can't stand them. I know. I started searching through your social media last night,
Starting point is 01:24:23 and I just saw L's down everywhere you were. Every single time. It never fails. Alright, so when you were in college, you were given some incredible nicknames. Did you have any that you liked more than the others? J-Lo was always my favorite because I figured eventually she's going to want to meet me. Obviously. I mean, I just figured, yeah, that's the way my mind went. You know, but J-Lo was just one that kind of stuck. The coaches in New York called me that.
Starting point is 01:24:51 The linemen, you know how linemen are. They changed J-Lo to Jello. Nice. Because they're dirty linemen and nothing I can do about it. So, I mean, Hefty Lefty is one that always kind of stuck with me as well. You hate that or love that? Love it. Love Hefty Lefty. Oh, I love it.
Starting point is 01:25:06 It's one of the best nicknames in sports history, by the way. You should love that. Yeah. See, in college, this was before Twitter, before Facebook, even MySpace. So they had the threads, you know, those sports threads or whatever. So they would have websites dedicated to this thing. And I just, I love it. I think it was, you know, the more creative, the better.
Starting point is 01:25:26 MySpace was definitely around. Tom was definitely doing some shit. Tom was definitely your friend. Yeah, of course. How about, is that where Throwboy Cheese comes from? Is the Pillsbury Throwboy? Yeah, that's where that came from. We're just trying to be different, trying to throw something that, you know, throw something out there.
Starting point is 01:25:41 So you go on to the NFL for the Giants. You have two snaps in the NFL. One was go on to the NFL for the Giants. You have two snaps in the NFL. One was for a third one for a first down, I believe. And then something else happened. Then you end up as a Colt. Then you end up in this indoor football league. How does this all happen?
Starting point is 01:25:56 You just want to get back in the game? First of all, I'm going to get some respect, I think, from you here. All right. My first ever snap, personal protector. Okay, J-Lo. How about that. Okay, J-Lo. How about that? Okay, J-Lo on the punt team looking like Tim Tebow out there. Well, so here you are. You're a punter, right?
Starting point is 01:26:12 Yeah. I've got Fegels. Legend. Who is deadly, you know, coffin kick, coffin corner. He goes, I want Jared in because they won't rush. I'll be damned. They put me in. I don't rush. He takes be damned. They put me in. I don't rush.
Starting point is 01:26:25 He takes forever, puts it inside the five. It's such a great strategy, too, because they're all scared shitless of the fake. That's exactly right. As soon as I ran out, they put regular defense in, and there wasn't anybody even back. That's why you always run an onside kick earlier in the year so that they all bring their people up so they can't get a return on kickoff. That's why you run fake punts early in the year.
Starting point is 01:26:47 So they, they have to basically hold up. They're not rushing. So the punter can take his time. Fake field goal. Same thing. That's exactly, it's exactly why you see them in the preseason.
Starting point is 01:26:55 That's incredible. Yeah. So, yeah. And I did a third and one in the playoffs and then played a little bit versus green Bay. Um, a couple of snaps in there,
Starting point is 01:27:03 but nothing major. So then you get cut from there. You come to the Colts. You don't make the final cut. And then how many years from you leaving the NFL to the – because I remember watching this, like, pop up on the Internet that you were all of a sudden in the indoor football league. I'm like, holy shit, he's back.
Starting point is 01:27:15 I'm so excited. Yeah, it was – I played the next year, but nothing major, nothing big. What got it was, and was and i gotta give credit where credit is due uh barstool about five years ago i played in an indoor football game which you've seen indoor game correct yes sir okay so they have nets uprights walls and all that right yep no so i played in an indoor football team that That's the Arena League. The Indoor Football League doesn't have that. Oh, no. So this was so bad, it didn't have walls. Were you on a gym floor?
Starting point is 01:27:54 There was no walls. We were playing on Astroturf, cut out into an indoor thing, on dirt. So it's the only indoor game I've ever played where I got dirty. There were no uprights because the other team didn't have money to buy the uprights. So you had to go for two. You couldn't kick. It was the most absurd game ever. The most ratchet football league in the history of football leagues. Ever. Ever. Miraculously, that team didn't, or astonishingly enough, that team didn't make it through the league. They folded two weeks later.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Shocking. What'd you say? So you played in this bum-ass league, indoor football league, and a photo got out of you. Is that in Kentucky, I assume you're playing? Yeah, it was actually right down the street from Lexington. So Barstool tweeted out a video of it, and literally I got to my phone and I was like oh my god i've never trended you know so it was like it was it was insanity i've never trended what a hilarious sentence out of you i know exactly i feel like you have trended numerous times and you just didn't know about it well i the one i do i hate god because it just feeds to Dave's ego. It's because they'll tweet something out.
Starting point is 01:29:07 So, like, Dave tweeted out, we did a competition with Big Cat. Dave Portnoy is the president of Barstool who he's referring to. Go ahead. Yes. He took me to Indianapolis for the Final Four. And Big Cat and I had a competition and they did one of me doing a belly flop and then that well first of all
Starting point is 01:29:29 it's not a pretty sight but second of all it's a fucking majestic sight from what it sounds like I mean I just pictured it in my head it was beautiful it was beautiful it really was are you a drinker? I like to have some cocktails you throw beers back what's your favorite drink? I'm actually I'm a captain or a vodka guy really yeah i'm not much into beers but i will absolutely drink you with
Starting point is 01:29:50 captain no problem you just you were about to say drink me under the table i think is what you're just i think so but then i've been as soon as i said it a picture of me went from you chugging that beer and how fast you're doing i'm like maybe not maybe not under the table. But I will go for it. I'll tell you what. I have an interestingly talented liver that can make me go for a long time. I drank with the O-Lyman numerous times in my life, and that's body comparison. I would enjoy a night of drinking with you very much so.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Oh, yeah. We would do a lot of So God, this is how long ago, we would do a lot of SoCo and Lime. Oh, I can't. I can't run through my SoCo and Lime run, Jared. I can't do that. There's like, I had a tequila run there. It ended up in jail.
Starting point is 01:30:34 I can't do tequila anymore. I had a SoCo and Lime run. It ended up with me puking on like a Halloween night while I was dressed as Lieutenant Dangle. Can't do that anymore. I run through, I do runs with things. I can't, I can't even smell anymore. We would, so you know how off days are Tuesdays, right?
Starting point is 01:30:50 So in New York, we would go down to a Pittsburgh Steeler bar when they were playing like on Monday night and get everybody riled up by doing the Eagle chant. And whenever we would do it, people would just buy us shots because they thought we were crazy. So we just would do so many SoCo lines. So hold on. You're a New York giant.
Starting point is 01:31:10 Yeah. Doing the E-A-G-O. Eagles chant in a Pittsburgh Steeler bar? Yeah. And, well, we were in town for the Big and Tall Convention. And I swear to God, people fell for that crap. People are absolute idiots. Who are you guys? You guys are are absolute idiots. Who are you guys?
Starting point is 01:31:27 You guys are crazy, man. Who are you guys? Oh, we're in town for the Big and Tall Convention. Big and Tall Convention. It's over there in New York City. We just came over here for the night. Ah, that's fucking hysterical. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Anything you regret in your life? Ever? Uh, no. Not one thing? No, not one thing. It wouldn't have got me where I am now. So, no. I one thing? No, not one thing. That wouldn't have got me where I am now. So, no, I try not to anymore. Best thing you've ever done in your life, other than have your kids.
Starting point is 01:31:51 I understand that that's the answer for your parents. I mean, the Super Bowl, being a part of that. I mean, the euphoria of being at the top of your profession, even if I was the backup, just to know to go through that process was one of the best things ever. Nobody understands, though, that the entire team, including equipment managers, athletic trainers, assistant coaches, GAs, everybody, it takes everybody to win in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:32:21 So when you get to the Super Bowl, it's a fucking big-time team feel-good thing. It really is. They do a good job. Coughlin, for all the crap he gets, he was amazing that year. Did you ever get talked to about your weight? Did they put any restrictions on you about finding you or anything like that? Oh, yeah. Every time I was overweight,
Starting point is 01:32:37 which happened, we'll say it happened, it was $450 per pound per day. What's the most you have ever been over? They capped it at $1,200. So I paid that once. $450, that's three pounds at least over. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:54 My weight, I had to be between $288 and $292. Yeah. It's just so funny to me that they didn't try to put an athletic weight on you. They just wanted to restrict you to save you. From giving $300. Yeah, that's just so funny to me that they didn't try to put, like, an athletic weight on you. They just wanted to restrict you to save you. From giving 300. Yeah, that's all it was. And here's also, now, were you there for Dungeon? No, but I've met him once or twice.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Yeah, so I get cut from New York on a golf course, which is out of ruin, you're back nine. And then. How are you at golf, good? I enjoy playing. All right, good. Yeah, I'm not great, but I enjoy playing. And then I'm get a call from Indy, hey, come on up.
Starting point is 01:33:30 We want to work you out, whatever. And I show up, and I weigh in, and I'm 300 on the dot. Which is less than I thought it would be. Or it was, yeah, way less than I thought it would be. Well, you're probably dehydrated from golfing and drinking. Well, I just didn't eat that day either. I was like, oh my god,
Starting point is 01:33:46 I gotta lose this weight, hurry. And leave it to Dungy. He walks right up to me and he goes, huh? Well, I won the bet. And I'm like, what the hell? He goes, I said you'd be 300. I'm like, thanks, Tony. Tony Dungy's betting on your weight coming in. Oh, yeah, and apparently a couple of the other
Starting point is 01:34:02 coaches. And he won, so good for him. Oh, man. Love it. I very much enjoy the fact that you fully embrace the fact that you're just a big dude. Like instead of hiding from it. Yeah, I mean I'm bigger than I should be. And that's why I'm doing some stuff now working on that.
Starting point is 01:34:19 So yeah, I mean it is what it is. You gotta know what you are and everybody's got a fit in life and this is mine. You're wearing a shirt that says the Jared Lorenzen project. What is that? Is that what you get in shape? Oh this yeah, this says I started this about Two months ago. We're on Facebook under this Jared Lorenzen project and I'm going around speaking and talking about obesity I think it was something that needed a face to it. So I decided I'd be that face. And, um, it's pretty cool. We've got a nice little community of people on there that are out losing
Starting point is 01:34:50 weight. We're doing walks, we're doing lifts. We're just doing a little bit of everything. What's your goal? Uh, I don't have a weight loss goal amount, like amount of pounds. Um, but I want to be off fricking blood pressure medicine. I'm 36. I mean, it's, it's ridiculous that I'm on blood pressure medicine. So the day that I can wake up and not have my back hurt knees hurt and all that uh that'll be the day i feel better good for you what are you you're dieting exercising you said you have walks and lifts are you filming at all what's the deal yeah yeah i'm filming we're doing a documentary of it um so we're like i said we're about two months into it three months in i've got a mobile gym it's a trailer that they turned into a badass gym um i've got some i've got nutritionist doctors
Starting point is 01:35:32 everybody kind of working with me on it it's it's been awesome this is fucking awesome where are you keeping track of yourself every day do you weigh in every day do you pee every day do you get tests every day like what what is the in-depth analysis of it um i go to the doctor about once every other week that's when i said because i've lived on a scale for so long that i won't do it anymore yep i completely understand that i fucking hated way in days and even i was nowhere near your level of finage and shit i just hated it i didn't give a fuck if i ball i ball yeah and that's that's the kind of way i looked at it's like oh i'm too big i know i know when i'm too big yeah um but then you know long story sorry i went through's the kind of way I looked at it. It's like, oh, I'm too big. I know when I'm too big. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:05 But then, you know, long story short, I went through a divorce, kind of went downhill, came out of it. Now I'm just like, you know what, dude? Let's lose this. Let's not be these sorts. Let's fucking go, Jared. Let's go. Oh, yeah. I'm excited about it, man.
Starting point is 01:36:21 It's been freaking incredible. The response, you know how social media is. Yep. I mean, they can be dickheads. Yep. And I've probably received 6,000 messages and only one has been negative. I mean, these people are awesome. So it's been a lot of fun.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Let me teach you a little something about that negative social media reaction. Right? Because I get it on a very regular basis. If somebody doesn't like me and they don't enjoy me after i put out a video or a tweet that i think is hilarious if they want to send something hateful there is zero percent chance that person and i would ever hang out so i give absolutely no fucks about a single thing that person has to say you couldn't have said it better you're right i mean if i think something's funny i'm gonna put it out there and i do and i'm as sarcastic as people get i'm a smart ass i don't care but because if i think
Starting point is 01:37:11 it's funny it's gonna go out there and if you don't like it we're probably wouldn't be friends anyways if you want exactly if you want to hate on a guy who's 36 years old fresh out of a divorce on a rebound who's always been talked about being a big guy trying to change his life around then you're probably just a piece of shit anyways with no friends so fuck that guy it's exactly right man double barrel fuck him hey put them both up there cuz yeah exactly right i'm going off your boy out back there sold stone cold he throw him up for me hey hell yeah hell yeah hey um do you like wrestling oh i love it you know i'm trying to get in that are you really i saw the uh some of the stuff you were doing i think i'm supposed to be a wrestler
Starting point is 01:37:51 so hopefully i'll be your next favorite wrestler whenever you're back that would be man i'll tell you what i love i i've been to some of the big events they're a blast i love them i absolutely it's a men's soap opera if you know exactly what it is. Yeah. And it's something me and my son can bond over now, so he's into it. I mean, I hate the fact that he says that Stone Cold sucks and Undertaker's terrible. He's like, Cena, you're stupid. I love you, but you're stupid. You should think about maybe giving away that kid. I'm telling you right now, I've got to get him back.
Starting point is 01:38:25 I've got to get into old school with him. I've got to get him back into Jake the Snake, Snooka, Rowdy. I've got to get him into those people. Way back. You're going way back. There's a DVD that's like the history of the WWE Championship. It's awesome. Really?
Starting point is 01:38:38 It's absolutely awesome. Yeah, because it breaks through all the greats because all the greats have had it. So it's literally from the beginning to the end. Yeah. Oh, I'll buy it for him for Christmas. All right. What is your Twitter so people can follow along with the jared lorenzen project as you get back to fit man good for you is this gonna be the first time ever really being in shape if you get down to like good shape would it be the first time in your life or because you
Starting point is 01:38:57 said in high school since high school yeah since high school i mean uh high school i could really you know i was going from Basketball to football Football to basketball To baseball So I was You know how it is You're constantly going Yep
Starting point is 01:39:09 But no you can follow Facebook's the biggest one It's the Jared Lorenzen Project On Facebook My Twitter Is at Jared Lorenzen 22 That's awesome
Starting point is 01:39:18 So I'm always You know if you like sarcastic people That's me Well I appreciate you buddy How Do you throw a fastball Pretty good I bet huh Yeah I throw a fastball pretty good, I bet, huh? Yeah, I throw a lot of junk, too.
Starting point is 01:39:28 Oh, you control it, huh, cuzzo? I have a shot to play, maybe playing the minors, but I figured, you know, God bless me with a strong left arm, I'll try and do it in football. Well, a lot of people would say you have a strong left arm or you've got a baseball, too, Jared. I don't want to say your kids. Well, I know, but baseball, there's the minors.
Starting point is 01:39:49 I would have been stuck there. Bus rides. Oh, you ain't seen a bus ride. You've been in an indoor bus ride. So indoor football league bus ride, that's the worst. Yeah, there's no uprights in some fucking city. All right, Jared, I appreciate you so much, man. I can't wait to keep up with the Jared Lorenzen Project,
Starting point is 01:40:08 Throwboy Tease, everything you're doing. Good for you, man. Finding a second life at 36. That's good news. Thanks, buddy, man. I appreciate you. Pulling hard for you. Thanks, man.
Starting point is 01:40:17 See you, man. See you, buddy. It really is terrible that he's gone. Gone too soon. He was only 38. But just judging from what you've seen on social media over the last couple days, everyone respected and loved this guy. Didn't matter who it was or what his relationship to them was.
Starting point is 01:40:35 He was just a ray of sunshine. Everywhere he went, he uplifted everybody. He was always fun to be around. And I'm glad that we had the opportunity to talk to him. All right, that's the show. We'll be back to regularly scheduled programming come Monday. Everyone will be back in the office. And we got some good shit coming out down the pipeline here.
Starting point is 01:40:55 Foxy's working on an awesome video from the Bahamas trip. That's going to be insane. We got the documentary, the tour, which is going to be released at some point. There's a shit load of footage from that that's coming out at some point and we got some good interviews lined up for the next couple weeks as well so we appreciate everyone rocking with us
Starting point is 01:41:14 enjoy your 4th of July be safe, be responsible but have a good time and Pat and the boys will be back on Monday Cheers And Pat and the boys will be back on Monday. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers.
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Starting point is 01:41:44 Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. Oh, beautiful for heroes proved in liberating strife. Who more than self, their country loved And mercy more than life America, America, may God thy gold refine. Till all success be nobleness and ever again divine And you know when I was in school we used to sing it something like this, listen here Oh, beautiful for spacious skies For amber waves of grain For purple mountain majesties
Starting point is 01:44:06 Over the fruited plain But now wait a minute, I'm yes he did, heavy brotherhood. From sea to shining sea. Shine and see You know, I wish I had somebody to help me sing this America America I love you, America You see My God, he done shed his grace on thee You ought to love him for it Cause he, he, he crowned that good He laid his grace on thee You oughta love him for it Cause he, he, he crowned my good
Starting point is 01:44:29 He told me he would Every brotherhood From sea to shining sea Oh Lord, oh Lord, I thank you Lord Shining

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