The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 089 - Kirk Herbstreit & Solving The World's Problems... For Real

Episode Date: July 11, 2019

On today’s show, Pat welcomes on The Voice of College Football, one of the best football minds there is, former Ohio State quarterback and friend of the show, Kirk Herbstreit. They discuss what it�...�s been like preparing for his kids to go play football at Clemson, his philosophy on dealing with trolls, why he thinks College Gameday has been so successful, whether he ever considered making a jump to cover the NFL, and who he likes this upcoming football season, in a fantastic interview (2:04-44:56). Later, Pat and the guys try to solve one of the biggest issues facing the earth today as they discuss global warming and try to connect the dots between that and pangaea. Block Dad also stops to announce the winners of the annual scholarships given out by the Pat McAfee Foundation (apply at thepatmcafeefoundation.org), they discuss the luxury of pods while flying long distances as Pat recaps some of the things he did in Hawaii while on vacation, they chat about the future of Netflix as other major streaming services emerge, and Zito sets a weight loss goal for a couple of weddings he has coming up. It’s a fun one, come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:40 Today is an incredible conversation where we solve the world's problems yet again. That is what you come to the show for. And today we deliver. Also, an incredible conversation with the voice of college football, Kirk Herbstreit. We are 43 days away from college football. It is in the air. Can you smell it? Can you smell it?
Starting point is 00:01:03 Kirk Herbstreit is going to make you feel all the feels about football season being right around the corner. And he even dives into a little bit of his personal life, which I'm not sure he does on a regular basis. He's handsome. He's intelligent. And with us, he's an incredible interview. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor, SeatGeek. SeatGeek is the greatest ticket buying app on planet Earth and the moon. That's right.
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Starting point is 00:02:37 Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a handsome man. He's the voice of college football football you can see him on game day you can see him on prime time all fall on saturday nights used to be a quarterback now he's a football whiz from espn mr kirk herb stream oh what is up what is up man how you doing how's your summer ESPN Mr. Kirk Herbstreit. Oh, what is up? What is up, man? How you doing? How's your summer going?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Hey, everything's going great. And let me tell you why, Mr. Herbstreit. Because I have a chance to talk to an absolute living legend in the college football world. Once again, I'm so thankful you chose to join us. Oh, man, anytime. I always love to come on with you. You and I saw each other in Nashville. I think it was the night that you had a legendary moment on stage.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I mean, that will live forever. Tell me how you came up with that idea. Did you and your buddies come up with that? Did you come up with it on the did you and your buddies come up with that did you come up with it on the fly how did that come about well i mean you were one of the first people i saw immediately afterwards we left from the draft went right back to the hotel and there's uh like a group of people like buzzing around a guy while he's going to take a piss and i like look around and they're like i was like oh herb streets here holy shit so you go to the bathroom you come back out and you're like what are you in town for i was like oh i just did a Street's here. I'm like, holy shit. So you go to the bathroom, you come back out, and you're like, what are you in town for?
Starting point is 00:04:07 I was like, oh, I just did a little draft announcement. Oh, I just saw that on TV. I was like, did you hear it? I said, did you hear it? You're like, no. I was like, all right, you're going to like it when you hear it. You're like, what are you? The NFL gave me an alley-oop there. They asked if I wanted to do an announcement.
Starting point is 00:04:21 We all knew what was going to happen when I got up there. I didn't plan on burying the Titans at all until Reggie Wayne went viral for burying them. So I had to like, you know, show a little team camaraderie there. Oh my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yeah. Yeah. You went next level. I mean, do you have it? Can we play it? I just want to hear it. We don't have the tech.
Starting point is 00:04:44 We don't have the tech to That was so good. We don't have the tech to do that. But the draft, and now that the NBA is over and NHL is over, there's something in the air. Football is right around the corner. It's on deck. Are you like a kid who's excited to get back to school after summer vacation? Are you locked down in your basement right now watching film? What is the Kirk Herbstreit doing with football this close on the horizon?
Starting point is 00:05:10 Man, you're right. It's like, for me, the year is in stages. There's in-season, and you get through the national championship. I'm a sports junkie like you. I like it all. I get caught up in, whether it's college hoops, I'm a big baseball fan, a big Reds fan, so I follow
Starting point is 00:05:29 what's going on with that and follow some of the majors and what's golf, and really, it's like I'm treading water. I'm dying to get back into football, and when the NBA is over and we get to the middle of the summer, the magazines start coming out.
Starting point is 00:05:45 People start getting excited, start talking about it. And I'm no different than everybody else. I'm just a fan. And so, yeah, I'm already looking at film, already starting to study, already starting to talk with some of the coaches about how things are looking. And, yeah, the only caveat I would try to make is I have four boys, and two of my boys are graduating. They've already graduated from high school, and my wife and I are taking them tomorrow to go to college.
Starting point is 00:06:14 And so that, for us, has been a major focus. And, you know, you get to a point as a dad when your kids are going to leave home, and it's, in my case, it's very mixed emotions. I mean, it's like you're excited, you're happy, but you're losing two of your four boys. I have four boys, and you're losing two of them. So that's probably taken a lot of our energy and time over the last few months, just kind of getting through that and eventually dropping them off here in the next couple days
Starting point is 00:06:45 and giving them a hug and saying, go get them. So this is something that's very interesting because when your kids leave and go to college, your two boys, I believe they're twins, are heading to Clemson, walk-ons for the football team. That's incredible, by the way. Congratulations. Thanks. Hey, no problem.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I assume now's the time where you just hope that all of the work ethic and all of the morals that you've instilled in these men is something that can carry over to a little bit of freedom whenever they get down to Clemson. And do you expect Dabo Sweeney to be an incredible leader to them? Is that why you chose or helped them choose, or if they completely chose Clemson to begin with well you know for for me i have such an interesting perspective because i i kind of get behind uh kind of behind the curtain for all these programs like i
Starting point is 00:07:38 so all these teams they they want you to you know when you hear the the sid or whatever they give you kind of a skill. Well, I've been very fortunate to get behind that and actually see these programs and kind of see how they're run. And I think anybody could watch the Clemson program and say, wow, that's impressive how Dabo Sweeney runs his program. And for me to be able to not only see that, the way his team plays, that's great, but just the way he he
Starting point is 00:08:06 runs his operation especially my boys cases where they're going as preferred walk-ons i wanted to you know kind of give give them the opportunity to look to see where they wanted to go but at the same time kind of give a blessing of okay if you're going to go in these circumstances that's a great place and they they kind of looked around, and they didn't want to play smaller division, 1AA and Division III. They wanted to go either play big and try to shoot for the stars or not play at all. And so I said, cool, you know, if that's your thing, go for it.
Starting point is 00:08:43 And they decided to go to Clemson. And with my relationship with Dabo, like I said, cool, you know, if that's your thing, go for it. And they decided to go to Clemson. And with my relationship with Dabo, like I said, what I've seen from them, I was so elated and happy for them because I know beyond just the football part of it, when you're letting your kids go, they're going to a culture that you really believe in and you really feel good about where they're going. And like you said, you hope what you've instilled in them combined with where they're going ends up being a good thing for them. And we'll see four or five years later how it goes. But I'm very confident in the location and the coaches and the culture.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Okay. So congratulations. That's spectacular. Appreciate it. Okay, so congratulations. That's spectacular. Appreciate it. Yeah, no problem. The preferred walk-on, by the way, is just a step towards getting a scholarship if you go and earn it, especially nowadays.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Clemson has to be elated that your children are going there, strictly because you are the voice of college football at this point. Is there any worry for you? Any worry at all for you because you hear it whenever because you were a player at ohio state i'm sure there's people that are like oh this guy the way he talks about this team he's is there any worry about the haters in the potential backfire that could come from having two kids in a program that is going to be on primetime television on a very regular basis they're going into national championships that is going to be on primetime television on a very regular basis.
Starting point is 00:10:05 They're going into national championships. You're going to have to talk about them. Has there been any thought by you, or is it just kind of like a fuck them all type thing? I do what I have to do. Yeah, I think the latter, really. I think I went ahead and jumped on that bandwagon about 10 years ago in every category beyond my kids. I think you have to to survive in this world that we live in, especially when you live in the public eye. I think you get all kinds of negative criticism about, can't believe they didn't go to Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:10:39 You're a traitor. You get all kinds of stuff. And I've heard people say, well, you're not going to be able to call Clemson games because your kids go there. What are you talking about? I mean, of course I'll be able to call Clemson games. And hopefully they're in a position down the road where they're actually out on the field and contribute.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Who knows? But no, man, you know, living in the world that we live in with social media and people can reach out to you at any moment that people love to be cynics and jackasses and do whatever they can to try to ruin your day. But I guess I'm just numb to it. I don't even hear it. It doesn't even really impact me. I think for them, just because they've been in somewhat of a bubble and kind of the way you have to raise your kids when you live in the public eye, you know, to let go and to kind of not be there. I think it would be an eye opener for them to kind of see what it's like to live out and deal with the last name and deal with some people are going to recognize their last name and some people are going to like them and some people are going to hate them just because of their last name, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:49 and how do you deal with that? Um, so that, that'll, that, that's probably as a dad, the one thing you wonder about how they, uh, will have to deal with that because that's, that's part of their world. It's part of, I didn't live with that. And I don't know if you had to deal with that, but I think when you have kids and they go out and go on their own, that'll be somewhat of a concern for you as well.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I think it's a concern for any parent that lives in the public eye. Absolutely. And I don't know how anybody can hate the Herbstreet name. You're so smooth and good on TV. Anybody that hates you is just trying to do it to stir the pot. I would like to say I think athletes are better at dealing with haters on the Internet. Like I watch you kind of bury some people. Not bury.
Starting point is 00:12:37 That is a fraught term. But you'll engage with some trolls just because I think in the football and in the sports world, shit talking ising is something that happens. So whenever somebody – yes. And it's hard. It is hard for me to resist the urge, too, every once in a while when somebody will just troll or whatever. And I'm like, you know what? Everybody's like, well, if you give that guy attention, you're giving him what he wants. He's like, yeah, but what about me?
Starting point is 00:12:57 I want to talk shit to this guy, too. Why can't I do that? Yes. Yeah. It's hard. That's me. That's me. I look at it as a sport.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Depending on the time of the year, I really enjoy it. It's become, and what I do is I'll just, I'll kill them with kindness, or I'll, and then I'll let all my followers just kind of get their machine guns out and load on them. You know, I let them do the damage. And I'll say something, like someone will say something off the wall, and I'll retweet it with, I let them do the damage. But, you know, I'll say something like, someone will say something off the wall, and I'll retweet it with,
Starting point is 00:13:28 this is a real person. A real person is having this thought right now. Just let all those people follow up with, you know, you're an idiot kind of thing. But, yeah, I enjoy it. And especially in the fall, when I can literally say one sentence, and an SEC fan will say, you're such a Big Ten homer.
Starting point is 00:13:49 You're such an Ohio State homer. You suck. I can't believe you. Same sentence, an Ohio State fan will say, I hate you. You're a sellout. You hate Ohio State. You hate the Big Ten. And I'm like, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:04 At some point in the fall, I can be like, hey, everybody have a good Tuesday. It's Tuesday out. Ah, F2. It's like, all right, hey, good. Good to see you guys. Have a good day. So when you realize there are people out there like that
Starting point is 00:14:21 that just despise you just for just for the fact that they despise everybody you really can't take it personally you just kind of have fun with it yeah i agree completely okay so college football is the most passionate football i think we can say that i think the fan bases are insane there was a lot of chatter about you potentially getting into the nfl how close were you to moving the Herbstreet brand and brain into the National Football League coverage, especially because ESPN was having a lot of turnover, and you're so good on the microphone.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Was there a chance that you were going to be an NFL guy? There was talk about it. There was talk years and years ago about it with my agent, and this is more of studio work, and I was just determined. Let's, quick little story for me is, I was not Desmond Howard.
Starting point is 00:15:13 I didn't win a Heisman. I wasn't Pollock, who won, you know, to be a three-time All-American. I'm an anomaly, you know, as far as TV is concerned.
Starting point is 00:15:20 I played in Ohio State. I was a captain. I was, you know, a guy that worked hard. I was the same era as Elvis Gerbach and Trent Green, an IU guy. And I was
Starting point is 00:15:29 okay. If you were in the Big Ten region, you knew about me. But two years later, I'm sitting on the desk at College Game Day in 1996. And that wasn't really normal. I made my name as more of a TV guy than as a player. And, and instead of
Starting point is 00:15:50 hiding from that, instead of being embarrassed about that, I kind of accepted it. And I took it as a challenge early in my career that I might not have the credentials that everybody, all these other guys that TV do, but man, I'm going to outwork every single one of these guys. I'm going to be the most prepared guy. And that's kind of who I am to this day. That's my goal is be prepared, be plugged in, have relationships. There's a coach I can't call in college football that I can't have a relationship with.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And I don't say that lightly. Like, that's something that's precious to me because it's not BS. It's real, the relationships, because that's how you get information. And I've done that now for 25 years. And so when it came to the NFL, I just really had an issue with maybe my credentials as a broadcaster would allow me to go to an NFL booth and call a game, but I never played in the NFL. And for me, while I think I could do a very good job in analyzing a game and being entertaining, I was trying to be and trying to have fun with it. There's something
Starting point is 00:17:00 about never playing in the NFL that's a little bit of a roadblock for me. And so another thing is I love college football. It'll never get old for me because I have the same passion in 2019 that I had when I was a kid. And it never changes because new players come in and they're hanging around for three years or four or five and and then they leave and they go to the nfl or they graduate and here comes the next wave and for me like right now i'm already today when i get done hanging up this call with you i'll start digging into more college football so i'm really fortunate to do something i love in the nfl i like but i don't have that same passion for the nfl uh that I have for the college game.
Starting point is 00:17:46 It's incredibly humble of you. It's incredibly humble of you to do that. I respect the passion aspect of it and feeling fulfillment and everything like that, but having that mental hurdle of saying that since you didn't play in the NFL, you don't think you'd be as good. I've said this three times now on this show. You are so good on a microphone. I think the NFL would have been lucky.
Starting point is 00:18:08 Let me ask you this. Do you think an NFL player or fan would respect me and my analysis? Do you? Yeah, let me tell you why. I appreciate you saying that. Let me tell you why. Because every Saturday morning in every single NFL building, you know what's on tv college game day yeah you're a little stupid show yeah you're uh you're a massive show that is everywhere in in the locker room the college
Starting point is 00:18:38 love still runs deep i mean there's man there's bets everywhere, not for money, obviously, for other things. But, yeah, I think everybody knows and everybody likes Kirk Herbstreit. So I think maybe when you were younger, like maybe when you were two years out, no. But at this point, every single Saturday morning in every single NFL room, and Saturday mornings, by the way, are treatment days, walk-through days. So there's a lot of times around the TV. College game day is on everywhere. So I think you –
Starting point is 00:19:10 That's interesting. Yeah, it is. By the way, I mean, you guys only get like 40 million viewers or something. Yeah, yeah. No, we've been fortunate. That show has been – it's been crazy. You're going to come out, by the way, and be our celebrity picker one time. Will you do that maybe this year? In a heartbeat, would do that we're doing that we're doing that this fall we'll
Starting point is 00:19:30 have to find a game that works with your schedule where you can come out and and put on a show we'll we'll have some fun with that i'm holding you to that i'm going to tell my producer as soon as we hang up here that that you're in okay is that kind of your show now? I don't want to, I don't want to like make you say anything to go out there, but it feels as if you're the elder statesman. Obviously Lee is the guy. I mean, Corso is hilarious. He's an OG,
Starting point is 00:19:55 but you're the guy that is every single week. People are looking forward to Kirk Herbstreit. Are you the guy, the brains behind that show? Do they take your information? Here's to me what makes our show what it is. Are you the guy, the brains behind that show? Do they take your information or is it a team? Here's to me what makes our show what it is. I would never say yes to that question because I feel like what makes our show what it is and they have the longevity.
Starting point is 00:20:19 Think about, you know, you just said a lot of great things and a lot of people, you know, the show wins Emmys very often and it's had a lot of great things, and a lot of people, the show wins Emmys very often, and it's had a lot of success. But we never, ever make the show about us. We always make the show about the players and the coaches and the storylines. I just think that the second we sit there and actually take, you know, the congratulations and, boy, how do you guys do this, is when the show will start to fizzle. And so I think it's about, and I'm not just trying to give you, like, a good answer here. Like, I'm being honest.
Starting point is 00:20:58 It really is. And Fowler, I think, was kind of like the founding father of establishing this mentality, at least for me, being on the show. But he really pushed that. And yeah, Lee has the headgear and there's some individual parts to the show. But I really think the viewer, when he watches the show, he feels like he's just hanging out with three or four or five guys at a bar just sitting there talking ball. And to me, we don't make it about us and any of that and so i would say the show is definitely that this show what makes it what it is is it's not about me or it's not about lee corso or or desmond or david or or David or Reese. It's about us. And I go out of my way, I guess you could say
Starting point is 00:21:46 I try to be a leader on the show, off the air, as far as like trying to make people feel, you know, I think that's a quarterback in me. Like I make Tom Rinaldi
Starting point is 00:21:58 and Gene, who's on the show, Maria, Taylor, like I want them to feel in meetings and when we're eating and we're hanging out, like I want them to feel in meetings and when we're eating and we're hanging out, like I want them to feel like they're just as big a part of the show as anybody else on the show. So yeah, I do, I do try to do that part of it, but I would never say, you know, Hey,
Starting point is 00:22:18 look at me type of thing when it comes to game day. But I do the best I can behind the scenes to try to lead and help out for sure. It looks like a real family up there, man. It looks like you guys are really – Yeah, it looks like a real family. And you know from doing – I mean, I don't know if you've ever had to work or you've played with guys. I always equate it – like when I play football,
Starting point is 00:22:40 there are guys that I didn't necessarily get along with. There are guys that maybe had different beliefs and philosophies in life. But on Saturday, we had to come together, and you did. That's a great part of the locker room is you're all kind of pulling for the same thing. And when I got into TV, I kind of had that football mindset of team. And when I got into TV, I kind of had that football mindset of team. And what I found was, I'll tell you off the air, but there's people I've worked with where I had to fake that on the air. Like you have to, it's work to fake like you're having a good time with that person. And then there's other people you work with where it's just like, wow, this is so easy.
Starting point is 00:23:22 We're stealing right now. Like whether it's the dinner the previous night, it just kind of carries over onto the set. And I really think that game day, part of what makes it, and the same thing with Barclay's show. Like, you can just tell those dudes when the camera goes off,
Starting point is 00:23:38 they're still hanging out. They're still laughing. They're still having a good time. And I really think in TV, that's the secret to making it in studio TV is if you genuinely like each other, not, okay, everybody smile. That was good. But you're really hanging out, having a good time. And that's honestly, since I've been on game day, that's what we've had. And if we continue to have that, I think the show will be successful. And again, you probably felt that yourself,
Starting point is 00:24:07 whether it's in radio, TV, or even in sports. Oh, this interview is going great. Oh, man. I just love the way he opens up to us. So good. You know, there's just something about him that he's so smart, so handsome, so famous, so wealthy, but there's just something so real about that guy.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And you know, he's like a gem, like a diamond. He is. You know what I mean? He's like a gem, like a diamond. And speaking of diamonds, if you were to buy a diamond right now, there's a way to buy a diamond in an ethical and moral positive fashion. Oh, yeah. I like this. Tell me more. Do more do you yeah you should love it and ethical yeah and morally yeah um on the right side yeah so when you go to bed at night you lay your head down on a pillow you go hey you know what i did good today
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Starting point is 00:27:17 in your personal life but the diamond is going to help from couple.co forward slash pat back to the interview with another diamond k Kirk Herbstreit. A man-made diamond, Kirk Herbstreit. He's a man-made diamond. Well, and woman-made. Man and woman-made diamond. A person-made diamond. Well, two people.
Starting point is 00:27:36 A people-made diamond. He's a people-made diamond, Kirk Herbstreit. Yeah, absolutely. And the way you said, you won't say it, but I'll say it. The way you said Barkley Show, people say that about Game Day game day with herb street show just i just want to let you know that just want to let you know that uh let's get back to it uh so you said you said you'll go watch film immediately after this call i was very fortunate to get a chance to see one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time's house right and he literally has a movie theater right off of his
Starting point is 00:28:05 dining room there's a movie theater where he goes in and it has uh the entire exo set up it's an entire film thing that he watches in there do you have like a a film room like a theater do you have a man cave what is the kirk herb street film study method and what is jumping out on film for you this upcoming season that people would be surprised by obviously trevor lawrence is going to be incredible clemson's going to do great they got a couple herb street kids in the building uh but what is something that's really jumping off film for you uh first of all i um espn has hooked me up with some stuff and and i a lot of time i just at my office it's just right right off, coming to the front of my house,
Starting point is 00:28:45 it's just right off the front of the house. But it's kind of, with four boys, you know, you've got doors on it. It becomes like a cave where you can just kind of lock in on what you need to study. And for me, I get everything sent. It's usually online, so I just write on my computer right at my desk, and I have the ability to do whatever I need to do when it comes to studying film. A couple things that I guess I've seen. The big mystery for people who watch college football is we've just continued to have Clemson and Alabama,
Starting point is 00:29:19 Clemson and Alabama, Clemson and Alabama. And last year, Alabama got embarrassed, really, for the first time since Nick Saban's been the head coach. And I think people are underestimating going into this year how bad that hurt him on a personal level and how beyond losing the game, if you remember, that game got out of hand in the second half. That's one of those where not only did it go back to the drawing board, but for him personally, he's such, as he always talks about, a process guy.
Starting point is 00:29:52 That was not just XOs. It was the first time I've ever seen an Alabama team have underclassmen who had one eye on the Clemson team and the other eye on whether it was an agent or a decision on going to the NFL. I've always marveled at Alabama, how they've had success, and how Nick has done an amazing job of getting his underclassmen to focus on Alabama, to focus on SEC championships, to focus on getting to the national championship, and doing that year after year after year.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Because as you see, not only your alma mater, but other places, a lot of these underclassmen have a hard time. They're either worried about, I don't want to get hurt, or, oh, I'm going to skip this game, or it's just become such a different world. And yet Alabama has been immune to that for the most part. And last year was the first time that we saw a chink in the armor. So it wasn't just that they lost. It's their philosophy and everything that they've had going for them
Starting point is 00:30:57 kind of took a step back. And so that, to me, is why I think Alabama's going to become a very dangerous team. He's had eight months to kind of go back into being the scientist and getting these guys to buy into, okay, here's where we messed up and here's where we're going to get back to. That's why I think Alabama, forgetting the X's and O's and two is back, I think they're going to become a very, very dangerous team to deal with,
Starting point is 00:31:26 like they always are. But I think the mentality, I think, will get back in order to what we've kind of always expected from them. I'll tell you what, man, quarterback-wise, like talk about film, having Tua back at Alabama, Trevor Lawrence back at Clemson, a kid that doesn't probably get enough respect is Jake Fromm at Georgia. Jay Patterson at Michigan.
Starting point is 00:31:50 This Justin Field kid who was at Georgia backing up Jake Fromm, he's now at Ohio State. We'll see how he can do. How about Jalen Hurst after the career he had up and down in Alabama? He's now the starting quarterback at Oklahoma. I just think in this transfer quarter era that we live in,
Starting point is 00:32:10 I think people are going to tune in that aren't like diehard college football fans. They're going to tune in to games week one and week two and be like, wait a second, how is this dude here? Why is he on this team? I mean, kids are transferring all over the place. And so I think that kind of adds to the intrigue and somewhat of the mystery of the upcoming season. I like it, by the way.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I like whenever kids go and make a play for themselves. I'm excited to see what old Jalen does. Back-to-back Heisman winners, back-to-back number one picks coming out of Oklahoma. I'm excited to see what the coach can do with Jalen. What do you think of the players that are saying, I'm good, I'm skipping the bowl game, I'm going to get ready for the NFL? I hate it.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I think you and I talked about this the last time you were on. I'm not a fan of it strictly. Well, and also, I didn't play a position where I could potentially get decapitated in the middle of a game and lose a million dollars but for me in college like i still talk to a lot of my teammates from college like those were my boys you know so my my last game with them that was my last time ever really getting on i mean i was gone the next day they most of them got red-shirted and were going to be around another year. I did not. So they were just going to go right back into the off-season
Starting point is 00:33:29 and training. I was going to train for hopefully an NFL career. For me, I value my teammates and our relationship so much that that last time getting on the field with them, I think, is a pretty big deal. And that last time in a locker room after a win in that, that halftime when you're grinding, like for me, that all meant too much to me for me to ever think about skipping. But I also never had $10 million on the line with a potential injury sitting there. So I hate it. I don't like it. You and I are cut from the same cloth as far as that's concerned. I mean, I, I think your era, my era, players
Starting point is 00:34:05 before that, I think you would probably be universal. Everybody would say the same things about your boys, one last chance to go out. These kids today, I don't think in most cases there's that same kind of loyalty.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I think they're coming up and being raised where they're hearing, the coaches don't care about you, the system doesn't care about you, you've got to take care of you. I think that's a shame, man. I think that that is not necessarily, and again,
Starting point is 00:34:38 Jeffrey Simmons got hurt training to get ready for the NFL draft. If you're worried about getting hurt or an agent or a parent or, you know, an uncle or somebody who's planting that seed, you know, you're going to get hurt. My theory is why are you skipping the bowl game? Like, why don't you sit out your entire year? That's where I, I know I'm just not a fan of walking away from your team.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And I think there's, forget the monetary value, there's value in the life experience of being able to be there and finish off the year. And as you said, I don't know how many years you've been out of WVU, but whether it's 10, 15, 20 years later, you look back and you still go back to the game and you still see each other and still life memories. And I think kids today, it's all about five years down the road. They don't look 20 years. They don't look 30 years. It's about all
Starting point is 00:35:41 about the money. And I'm not saying the money is not important, but it's all about the money. And I think that's why sometimes they're not necessarily making the best decision. Man, there's so much money out there to get. I mean, adults make very interesting decisions whenever there's a lot of money on the line. I couldn't even fathom teenage kids that are being swayed in front. I mean, it's a very interesting situation. We live in a whole new world than back in the day. You're 100% accurate with that. I got one last question
Starting point is 00:36:08 here before we wrap up. I can't thank you enough for your time. Did you see the video that the Nebraska Cornhuskers put out from Scott Frost? He is running a military boot camp with those boys. I didn't see it yet.
Starting point is 00:36:23 I didn't see it. No. It's like Bud's training. it's like bud's training dude he it's like bud's training they're on the edge of a lake or something like that i don't know if nebraska has lakes or whatever they're upon they are on the edge of a lake he's screaming at them they're doing push-ups in the water running through the water they're taking boats out they're rowing the boat, which I'm assuming Minnesota's not going to be excited about. But that Nebraska team, I think they're getting
Starting point is 00:36:52 ready for war this fall. It's something to think about. Let me tell you something. Do you know Scott Frost at all? No. Not one bit, but I learned a lot in a two-minute video. He's like a eco-challenge kind of like yeah there's a mountain right over there i think i'm just gonna go over there and climb that dive off the top of it into a into
Starting point is 00:37:12 a lake like he's that guy yeah uh he he hiked across the entire grand canyon for fun you know with a backpack you know it's like for extra weight to survive and be challenged. It's not surprising that he has his team out there doing something extreme, kind of pushing the boundaries, so to speak. He is nuts, man. And he's probably in better shape than every player on his entire team. I don't know. He's probably 43, 44 years old, I'm guessing. And he's,
Starting point is 00:37:46 he's probably in better shape than any of them. That makes sense. And honestly, while I was watching it, I got nostalgia for how we were treated at West Virginia with Mike Barwiss and Rich Rodriguez, to be honest, the workouts were insane.
Starting point is 00:37:58 You guys have run that hill. Oh, summer. Yeah. The hill. I mean, the hill was just a nightmare. I mean,
Starting point is 00:38:04 I think they got a couple it was after I left but a couple of my friends got called into rooms and got interviewed by the NCAA and I think the police about how many hours we were working. Our workouts were insane but Rich Rodriguez, also
Starting point is 00:38:20 an insane human being, he had the thought that we were going to be mentally tougher, physically tougher, faster, stronger than everybody because we didn't have the most talent. And it led to a lot of victories for us. I was going to say, what years were you there? What was your era?
Starting point is 00:38:36 Me, Steve, not me. I don't know. Oh, my God. Were you on the team that beat Georgia? Yeah, yeah, man. Yeah, we won by three. No big deal. Dude, you won by three. No big deal. You guys
Starting point is 00:38:45 were dangerous. We had you guys on Thursday night. Mike Trenko and I used to do the Thursday night game, and we had you guys a few times. A lot of times it was against Miami. You know, it was always like down in the Orange Bowl. Those before me. Those games were so hyped for Thursday
Starting point is 00:39:02 night. People forget, but those West Virginia teams were dangerous. Who was that running back? You guys, besides Slate, somebody took a screen pass and went like 70 yards down the sideline at the Orange Bowl. The last name, I think, was Davis or Wilson. Wilson. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Quincy Wilson. Quincy. He played with Rasheed Marshall. Yeah, that was before me. So Quincy, Rasheed Marshall. Yeah, that was before me. So Quincy, Rasheed, that whole crew was right before me. Pac-Man, Chris Henry, that whole group was right before me. The Big East used to be no fucking joke, by the way. The Louisville teams, we got a chance.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Yeah. Yeah. So I was a part of the WVU team. All-time leading scorer. No big deal. We won four straight bowl games. I missed a couple kicks in a pretty big game. We probably should have won national championship.
Starting point is 00:39:54 But that was when Rich went up to Michigan. Yeah, went up to Michigan. But watching that video, it literally felt like how we were being talked to all summer, all winter in the workouts. Oh yeah. But dude, you had to do that at WVU. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I mean, didn't they have to do that militant approach to get you over the edge? I mean, that was the key. Well, we had, so we knew Rich Rodriguez was not going to last at Michigan because the way he treated us,
Starting point is 00:40:22 we did not have options. So we, we did not have, we, the players that are – we fell to West Virginia. It wasn't like, oh, yeah, we got other scholarship offers. We had numerous guys that got arrested and dropped – all their scholarship offers were dropped except for West Virginia. Were you last cast down with Division I? Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:44 I look back at the thing now i think we had three attempted murders like actual guys that have gone to jail for attempted murder on our team yeah yeah but they were like my boys by the way those guys were uh very good but yeah our team we did not have choices and options so when rich rodriguez would do what rich rodriguez does in full lunacy it wasn't like we're gonna be like okay fuck you we're gonna go to ohio state like in michigan those kids were like uh we're gonna go to penn state uh we're not gonna deal with this shit anymore and we knew yeah but i think that is what made us good we all kind of rallied around spite of hating rich rod and won a lot of games man man. All I know is whatever it was, it weren't. Those teams were filthy.
Starting point is 00:41:26 And I don't want to bring up this bad memory. Were you there in 07? Oh, yeah. Pitt. Oh, you son of a bitch. I can't believe that. I still wanted you guys. I got 27 death threats after that game, Kirk.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Thanks for bringing it up. I couldn't go to class. I couldn't go to class. Oh, really? Yeah for bringing it up. I couldn't go to class. I couldn't go to class. Oh, really? Yeah. Really? Damn. You guys were favored by like three or four touchdowns, right?
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yeah, we were. Thanks. We scored nine points. We actually scored seven until they took a safety in like the last minute on purpose. I mean, it was a rough game. There's a lot of conspiracy theories out there that Rich Rod didn't want to win that game because you win a national championship, you can't leave. Yeah, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there that Rich Rod didn't want to win that game because you win a national championship, you can't leave. Yeah, there's a lot of conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I don't know what happened. You guys win that game, you play Ohio State in the national championship down in New Orleans, right? Yeah, and we probably win by 42. Who would think if that happened? You and I have a great memory from that. Yeah, we would. And so it's a terrible one. What year was have a great memory from that. Yeah, yeah. We would have.
Starting point is 00:42:26 And so it's a terrible one. What year was that for you? Junior. Junior year, okay. Yeah, it was my junior year. It was a nightmare. Kirk, thanks for bringing it up. This conversation's over. Well, you had a hell of a career.
Starting point is 00:42:35 You were part of the greatest West Virginia team they ever had. Major Harris had some good teams, but that was probably the best era that they've had. They couldn't touch us. And then when Holgerson came in, they tried to erase all the memories of our team, even though we built the facility for them, basically. I mean, there's a lot of beef between, not me, I don't really give a fuck, but there's a lot of beef between my era of teams that basically, in our eyes, and it might be right or might be wrong but we put them on a
Starting point is 00:43:06 national map yeah thursday those thursday night games were actually the most watched games and we like we had actual stats that were like uh we were like two of the top five watched college football games of the year was our thursday night games and then we build like another 20 000 or 15 000 seats into the stadium rebuilt the entire facility basically, and then we leave and then they basically just try to erase Pat White and Steve Slayton from the history of WVU. Yeah, yeah. It was a very interesting – it's been a very interesting situation over there. Last thing, because you're going to go here,
Starting point is 00:43:39 but a memo to any new coach at a new school, the last thing you want to do is erase any kind of legacy memories for that program. You have to reach out, obviously, and embrace that era. And going back to Don Nailing and all the, any great players and great eras, you should always reach back and make it part of it. There have been a lot of coaches that have done that for some reason. It's like it's his era, it's his time, and it's like, man, you're not getting the alumni behind the program. Hopefully the new coach will see that he needs to do that
Starting point is 00:44:16 because there's so many great teams from West Virginia. Like I said, in that era, they should be celebrating. Brand new facilities. I'm on your side here. That Neil Brown guy followed me on Twitter, so he's making one little step for man, I guess. Love it. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'm so thankful for you joining us. You're a superstar, legit. I can't wait to watch you this fall. Congrats on all your success. I wish you would have gotten in the NFL because I'm an NFL guy. I would have loved to hear your voice in there. But the college football world is lucky to have you. Ladies and gentlemen, big brain, ex-Ohio State quarterback,
Starting point is 00:44:51 dad of two Clemson Tigers, Kirk Herbstreit. Thank you, man. Give him a hand. You got it, buddy. Hey, you there? Yeah. Who do you hate? I was going to put you in that fucking,
Starting point is 00:45:05 you should have seen whenever you're like, you know, there's some guys you get on TV with and you have to force it. I almost stood up in my chair. I was like, oh my God, Kirk Herbstreit. Who does he hate? You don't have to tell me. Oh, I'll call you on that one.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I'll tell you. I appreciate you, man. I'll tell you. There's been a few. I appreciate you so much have a good one all right you got it good talking to you guys see ya i love that guy he's the best i can't wait for college game b2 i love that show wait it's like the only five hour show that i'll sit through the entire thing he's like the king right he just runs it he's so smooth too he said he would never take
Starting point is 00:45:43 credit for running it right he says it's a team and that's why he is the guy. I like that. Yeah, because he's a good dude. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks Kirk Herbstreit if you could tweet him. And also he likes talking shit too, so you can talk shit to him. I mean, he got into it with somebody just the other day. Pretty big. I love that. I love everything about it. I'm a big fan of Kirk Herbstreit. If you could
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Starting point is 00:51:07 if you thought that was great wait till you hear the conversation that's about to happen so the sbs were last night and there was a moment where i was potentially gonna have to accept the sb for the indianapolis colts me and my friend Trip Hale, dumb dumb of the year, very nice kid from Alabama. He has a nice family now in Vegas, a nice gym, hilarious human being. He and I were there. It was when Drake hosted and I didn't even know we were up for an award and all of a sudden this award
Starting point is 00:51:35 comes up and Drake announces it or somebody comes out and talks about it and this camera crew comes sprinting up to put, like it was like we're in a college football awards where the camera crew comes sprinting up to you and I had no idea what it was i literally look over a trip i'm like what the fuck is going on and i look at the camera i'm like oh the colts are up for no am i the only cold here there's no way there's no way that that but for a moment in my head i was like greatest espy speech of all time is coming right up greatest espy speech of all time is coming
Starting point is 00:52:04 somebody else won obviously the camera left so i guess they had to just do the fake show thing but i thought i was going to accept an espy for the indianapolis colts it would have been awesome would have been fantastic incredible haven't been invited back since award shows suck yeah they are fucking terrible now granted i'm sure there's some people that absolutely love them the everything about them there's some great performances i agree but boy watching at home is so much better because you a you can change the channel bingo you can go to the bathroom you don't have to be dressed like a buffoon yeah you don't have to be dressed like a buffoon out there you don't have to sweat your dick off and you don't have to be cramped into these seats that are smaller than
Starting point is 00:52:42 airplane seats these theaters are not built for people of any size. They're built for – it's terrible. I've been to two award shows, nominated twice, once for an ESPY with Colts, obviously, and one for the College Football Awards with Ray Guy. And I hate Ray Guy because of his decision. I think it was a bad one. It wasted a lot of time of mine. Shouldn't have even been down there.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah, you have a camera two inches from your face when the wrong person wins. Yeah, they really do have a camera two inches from your face when the wrong person wins. Yeah. They really do have a camera right in my face. My mom's sitting right next to me. My dad's sitting right next to her. And I was supposed to win. They didn't pick the right three people to be the finalist for this particular award.
Starting point is 00:53:19 We weren't the right three. But out of the three, I was by far the best. It wasn't even a close. It wasn't even close. close the night before we're having a beer with like ray guy and ray guy starts the conversation talking to the kid that won like he was best friends with his coach he was like oh i talked to uh last night you know he's an old college roommate of mine i was like oh this is over exactly in the way he does ray guy like the way he set up the award he was like this guy showed incredible consistency a massive like he all the everything he was saying i was like oh i did fucking win good for me man this kid that won didn't even
Starting point is 00:53:55 pun enough to register as an actual stat in the like in the stats he only had like 24 punts all year i had like 20 i had like 20 some 50 yard punts in the season so it was like there was it was a bad scene so ray got i hated ray guy for a long time i mean on right i've buried that beef deep down inside i buried it good for you i mean it's still there good for ray good for ray because he he's in the hall of fame he's done a lot for punters sure so i've tried to bury it as low as I can. But he knows. Like, he knows that he fucked that one up, especially whenever that kid,
Starting point is 00:54:28 I think he's probably digging ditches now. I was getting texts from people at home saying congratulations as he was reading the stats and the description of the one that won. This guy's incredible. Everybody's like, oh, he won. Congratulations. They announced the winner, though, and you're supposed to just clap,
Starting point is 00:54:43 because if you don't clap, you're a poor sport. Yeah, you look like a sport like a dick but i'm like yo you just wasted my fucking time i could be in morgantown right now i mean penny pitchers was tonight and i'm down here in espn hobnobbing with these humans that i hate this is a nightmare do you think your name was on that paper though but like they just it was like a last minute like someone fucked up so there's a panel that picks the finalist and then ray guy picks the winner. So they actually told us how the whole thing went. Because in my head, the camera guys right in front of you, they know who's supposed to win,
Starting point is 00:55:08 you know, essentially. No, well, that's for just like the SPC. Yeah, when they introduce the nominees too. Yeah, they have it on everybody's face. Like for instance, just in case my mom goes, oh, fucking bullshit. Like they want to be able to have that reaction.
Starting point is 00:55:21 So as soon as that happens, it was early in the night. It was early in the night whenever that award was up uh the ray guy award so now we have to sit through all these other fucking awards we gotta sit through he's a friend of mine now but the tim tebow spectacle at that award show was next level biden won or not biden bowden when bobby bowden went up there and gave a speech for like four hours. Horrible. It never ended. We were just sitting there and we weren't allowed to leave. So I'm pissed off that I didn't win and I was even there.
Starting point is 00:55:50 We all wasted our time flying out. Couldn't go to Disney World because it rained so hard. So there was literally no upside to being at this award show. None. And we had to sit there for another hour and a half just watching these humans like, I'm the greatest human on earth. I'm like, yeah, great for you, man. I'd like to get the greatest human on earth i i'm like yeah you're great for you man i'd like to get
Starting point is 00:56:06 the fuck out of here uh shout out to all the winners though at the sbs good for you guys awards really matter oh yeah oh yeah those things go a long way they can't win an award especially an sp yeah aq won award the night before so his didn't even get announced on that stage his one the night before and we went out and celebrated his victory that was whenever he and i's friendship really kicked off and the guests from earlier today kirk herb street that is where we met at that award show at a bar the night before in beautiful orlando nice yeah we walked in walked in this bar we were at margaritaville down there in orlando i think there's like a string of bars down there in orlando i think right zito yeah there's a margaritaville down there yes so me and aq were down there margaritaville and we bounced over to another
Starting point is 00:56:48 we're the only people that went out so we found that out whenever we got back and there was somebody that was checking names because they had to make sure we were all in might have been the reason i lost as well by the way something to think about me and aq were the last two stumbling into the fucking hotel but we go into a bar that was like as it was kind of shutting down and we walk in and kirk herb street's in court i'm like oh fuck her curb street's here and aq's like oh i know him because big 10 stuff it goes up there and chats with him nicest guy of all time still is obviously to this day great interview earlier but award show i've really had a nice what's that word of of of affliction is that like like oh an affinity affinity i really have had an affinity
Starting point is 00:57:26 for award shows for a long time i mean my senior year of high school they made me go to the uh the award show for the seniors and i was up for male athlete of the year i mean i only had scholarship offers in like three different sports and uh we met the winner right yeah yeah another kid won i got one scholarship and i was like why did you guys even have me come here? Like, why do I get invited to these things? Like, don't,
Starting point is 00:57:48 don't bring me up here. Cause I'm just going to hate you forever, which I do, by the way, I hate our high school forever. I mean, that kid was wet from three. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:55 It was great. I probably would have been too. If I played that fucking, I guess now that I know me a little bit with basketball, it's just, it never ends. These award shows are just one big disappointment for me. I think that's why I hate them,
Starting point is 00:58:06 but I'll watch the shit out of them on TV. Let's be honest, that speech, though, would be absolutely epic, though. When I finally win something? Oh, when I finally win an award at an award show, I got some things saved up from that Male Athlete of the Year thing my senior year of high school. So you're basically going to do every single award show
Starting point is 00:58:22 you're supposed to win? Congrats to me, Male Athlete of the Year 2005, Plum High School. I didn't get the award technically, but I deserved it. Everybody knows it. All right? Also, congrats to me, Ray Guy winner 2008. Fucking shout out me having big balls. Ray got me.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And for this particular thing, yeah, I would go on the whole thing. What was the other award in high school that you didn't get that you should have got? Oh, yeah. Fucking Valley News Dispatch Player of the Year. Yeah. I led the state in goals and assists basically and one of my teammates
Starting point is 00:58:51 won the fucking Player of the Year. It's unbelievable. It never ever ends. They asked me to come up for a photo shoot. They asked me to come up for a photo shoot.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Didn't tell me and I had to stand on a brick wall. They take a picture of me and then my teammates out there juggling a soccer ball in the field. They got like four camera people shooting them.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I'm like, what happened? They're like, he's player of the year. I'm like, are you kidding me? I mean, good for him. Great for him. But I mean, do we just not read any stats? What? Fuck.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I'll never forget the Valley News dispatch player of the year. I hate them too. I hope that. Did that paper go out of business? There's a good chance. I mean, I don't know. Well, they made terrible decisions. I know that.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Yeah, Angelo, Master Giacomo, good friend of mine, one player of the year, still brings it up to this day. Still brings it up to this day. When we were in D.C. Yeah, he brought it up. While we were in D.C., he was like, what was that new? I was like, oh, yeah. You don't remember.
Starting point is 00:59:42 He's a great, great soccer player. But I just so happen to have one of the greatest high school soccer years in history. And I fucking got a picture next to a brick wall as if it's a mug shot. His smirk he gave you. He knew it too. Because they asked him to come for the photo shoot and me to come. I don't think he knew until he got there. And then when it happened, he's like, oh, this is perfect.
Starting point is 01:00:03 This is fucking perfect. It never ends. It never ends with these people. But congrats to all the winners of the ESPYs last night. I'm very happy and proud of you. It means the world, honestly. Get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Ladies and gentlemen, joining us right now is a legendary man. He fornicated with my mother nine months before may 2nd 1987 created me shout out to him for that and to my mom by the way she played a pretty big role in that whole thing this guy is now full-time running the foundation, Pat McAfee Foundation, and it is time to hand out some scholarships to well-deserved participants in an essay
Starting point is 01:00:52 contest. These are all children and military families that we will be handing out comfort scholarships to. Dad, quickly, for the people that don't know about the Pat McAfee Foundation, we've been in existence since February of 2012. We became a 501c3. Good for us, by the way, in February.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Hey, good for us. A lot of paperwork Tim McAfee had to fill out there. There was, there was. We wanted to work with the military. Very much wanted to work with the military, but we didn't know our particular lane. And we decided to go with the children of military families because we thought you take care of the kids,
Starting point is 01:01:24 they'll take care of the kids they'll take care of the parents in the future furthering their education taking a little pressure off of the the mom or dad who served in uh the military and it's been a very fun venture for us i mean it's been an absolute blast it's been a great seven years uh we've given away thus far four hundred and thirty three thousand dollars i mean we're really doing it. You know, it's pretty cool. By the way, I was up for the Salute to Service Award one time. Didn't get it. I lost it.
Starting point is 01:02:00 But it's not about, honestly, that award I thought was the biggest joke of all time. Like any of the philanthropy awards, it's like, okay, kind of take it away from why we're doing this whole thing because for us it's been very cool to kind of watch these kids kind of go to school and grow now because we've been doing it for so long we have a pharma a pharmacist yep she graduated from pharmacy school that we she won our award like four straight years five straight years scholarship and she's now a pharmacist and she's a badass her dad was a um uh airborne airborne guy oh yeah paratrooper guy badass of a dude yeah so the way they apply for these scholarships is they have to write an essay about uh their appreciation for their parents military service so they can get emotional and some of them some of them i mean some of them
Starting point is 01:02:44 mail them in i mean some of them are not great. Some are bad. But they don't win. This is a very highly competitive scholarship that we give out yearly. And this year, we're giving out 10 scholarships with a total of? $61,000. Jesus Christ. There we go.
Starting point is 01:03:00 Okay, good for you, Tim. I mean, that's really good work you've been putting in behind the scenes here. I appreciate the hell out of you. Nothing to sneeze at. These are real numbers. These are life-changing numbers for people. Yeah, I do the phone call to tell them each year. And it's kind of weird being an adult having to call these high school kids' parents' house.
Starting point is 01:03:20 Hi, is... Especially coming from Palumbo. Easy. That's an inside joke uh terrible things but terrible things but you call them and you're like uh hi is johnny there and they're like who's this i'm like this is pat mcafee like uh fuck you because these are military families you remember these are blue collar families i gotta call them back. Like, no, no, your kid won. Oh, we didn't even know he really applied. And then you go to the conversation and the kid's so happy.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Then the parents are so appreciative. And it's just like, it's such a cool moment for me every single year. That's really cool. Getting to announce them on the podcast here. I'm really pumped up about it. Dad, why don't you go ahead and list the 10 award winners this year? We have a first place winner who I'm looking at scores here. I don't want to say she did better than everybody else by a lot,
Starting point is 01:04:08 but it sure seems like she did better than everybody else. And then there's like two through. The rest of them are kind of tightly bunched, but the winner was very deserved. And so the, what is that? The six? Yeah, six are winning five grand each. Then three are winning 7,000.
Starting point is 01:04:26 And then the winner's getting 10 grand. That's correct. Wow. That's awesome. All right, why don't you read through them without further ado. How many people applied? 33. Okay, let's go.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Lucky 33. Down to 10. The 10 winners are, in 10th place. Chris Oakley. I think his name is Curtis. Oh, I'm sorry curtis oakley there's a chris oakley out there shout out hey chris sorry chris oakley next year man next year and i would like people know just like we're talking about that pharmacist you can win
Starting point is 01:04:57 multiple years in a row and we have had a lot of people do that yes it's a very very cool thing to kind of watch them grow in ninth place don. Donald Scott. Congrats, Donald Scott. In eighth place. Madeline Perry. Congrats, Madeline, getting a big win there. In seventh place. Abigail McGee. Good Irish girl.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Congrats. In sixth place. Isaac Hunter. Great name. That's a strong, strong name. That's a great name. Oh, yeah. Hey, good for Isaac Hunter there.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I mean, he didn't win, but I mean, he did. He did. But he didn't win it. You get it. Yeah. In fifth place. Jacoby Clark. Great name.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Congratulations, Jacoby. Very thankful for you entering. Now the top four. These next three will win $7,000 apiece. In fourth place. Zoe Rainey. Okay, Zoe. Still Zoe. In third place. Coll roberts okay colleen in second
Starting point is 01:05:50 place julia mann congrats julia and ladies and gentlemen your 2019 first place scholarship award winner from the pat mcafee a $10,000 comfort scholarship goes to Emma Norris. Hey, Emma. There you go. In the house, y'all. Congrats to all the award winners. Go to tpmf.us. Or the patmcfeefoundation.org.
Starting point is 01:06:21 If you would like to enter for next year, we do this every single year. I think it's a really cool thing. I'm lucky my dad is really taking the reins on this thing. It's fulfillment. It's taking care of people. It's taking care of the right people. And it's really fucking cool. Good work, dad. Good work, Emma. And good work to the other nine finalists. Recipients. Recipients. Good word, Banker and Ty. Hey, that's good word, Ty. Thank you. Congrats to the other nine recipients and to our champion, Emma Norris. The world
Starting point is 01:06:51 is yours. So now whenever you go to further your education, you go ahead and dominate this thing so you can take care of your parents who took care of us. And that's what it's all about. Hey, Tim, great work, bud. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:07:07 I mean, we got off to a rocky start there with Chris Oakley. Well, Chris Oakley. Sorry, Curtis. Curtis, big winner. We'll say Chris Oakley shirt. Just some random Chris Oakley. Congrats to some random Chris Oakley who just won some free merch. So thankful for this.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Told you guys we were hot today. We're changing the world. What other podcast goes from Kirk Herbstreet straight to an incredible ad read from Zito to a scholarship award of $61,000. That's what I'm saying. Straight into Pangea. Come on.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Have we talked about Pangea yet, Ty? I don't know. We'll find out. This bitch don't know about Pangea. Listen, if we haven't got to the Pangea talk yet, stick around. Things are about to really get going. Things are really about to get going here. Thanks for listening.
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Starting point is 01:09:34 Birddogs.com Promo Code America Ladies and gentlemen the greatest conversation we've ever had I have two weddings next month I'm trying to lose some weight Might just cut a lot I'm trying to lose some weight. Yeah. Might just cut all out. Yeah, that's not the way to do it. I'm not giving you a lot of hope. There's some good-looking ladies going to be there,
Starting point is 01:09:52 so I got to put in an eighth gear. Or maybe first gear to start off. I mean, maybe we just kind of roll. We get a rolling start. You know whenever your battery dies, but you have a stick, and you kind of got to roll it into gear? I've been there.
Starting point is 01:10:06 I think that's kind of what you are right now. You're just a guy without a battery. You got zero charge. I finally got a battery. Now you got a battery at these weddings. A roly-poly type. Oh, come on. Hey, you didn't deserve that.
Starting point is 01:10:19 I mean. Husky circle. Just call me Charles Barkley while you're at it. So Z, like today. I'm on the pound today You FaceTime me And say you want dinner Do you want to get pizza Say you're housing a whole pizza
Starting point is 01:10:30 Do I need to tell you no here Like this is an actual question Is this Do we need to be friends Right Do we need to be real friends Or Cause every once in a while
Starting point is 01:10:38 I'll get a tweet that's like Why do you make fun of Zito so much It's like We don't We don't We try our best to support him. It's just physically impossible at some points. So are we supposed to? That is a
Starting point is 01:10:50 real thing, because people do tell me to stop bullying you. It's not for me. It's mostly Nick. Yeah, maybe Nicky Coulton, but everyone else. I do need constructive criticism. Oh, I can do that. Is that the right word? Diggs went home, had to go home earlier.
Starting point is 01:11:09 He brought that word, accountability buddies. Is that what you're looking for out of us? Is like accountability buddies? I think so. That's what I need, I think. You need accountability buddies. So is Foxy supposed to be your accountability buddy here? Yeah, he let me down earlier.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Oh. I didn't know you had two weddings before. No, yeah. I want you to look good at those weddings i'm gonna use that jacket probably from the thing for sure the tour oh the bright one yeah i don't know if you're fitting that bro i right now it was tight on tour i know and you you yeah that was that was before you made me cook you a cheeseburger today yeah not wrong with that keto by the way way. That's keto. I ate the bread, though.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Whole loaf. I could have said no. Whole loaf? There's no reason for that. I did it, though. I did this. In our defense, you did say, yeah, I'm trying to lose weight. That's like an active thing you just said. Like it's happening in the present.
Starting point is 01:12:03 And we just watched what you ate today. So, yes. Like my saying was. So I don't know if it's matching up. My saying is diet starts never. Yeah, it is. But I think I have to change that today. To diet starts.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Never but today it starts. So it's starting today? Okay. Like when this podcast comes out? Oh, when the podcast comes out, yes. So this is starting on Thursday. My goal is to lose 60 pounds. July 11th.
Starting point is 01:12:27 Your goal is to lose 60 pounds? I do not want that Zito back. No, Ty. We do not want that. I do not want that Zito back. First wedding is going to be the 11th. So one month.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Exactly one month. Exactly. Tomorrow. We do not need Matt Zito back, though. Please do not need Meth-Zito back. Please do not give Meth-Zito back. Let me start with like 10.
Starting point is 01:12:48 I think what I'm going to do this time though, I'm going to drain blood out and then blood dope. I think I'm going to try to blood dope so I don't lose like, that's like the only way
Starting point is 01:12:57 I think, so I don't become Meth-Zito. So I'll just have bags of blood in one of the fridges. Oh man. Come on bro.
Starting point is 01:13:04 We got this new fridge. You put the fucking garlic in there. No, it was not me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We have a side fridge, though. I'll use the side fridge. So one month, let's put a realistic and like a potential happy Zito for the next month. Because honestly, I mean, it was great content, that weight loss challenge.
Starting point is 01:13:23 But boy, it was tough. It was tough every day. By the way, terrible for you guys, too. I understand it was great content, that weight loss challenge. But boy, it was tough. It was tough every day. By the way, terrible for you guys, too. I understand it was terrible for you guys. But it was also bad for us to have to deal with you. Terrible to be around. But you guys were literally sacrificing your entire bodies and soul. You almost shut down your kidney.
Starting point is 01:13:40 I'm sure I was not a good time. I mean, you toughed it out on the microphones, but boy, watching you guys just kill yourselves there, I do not want to ever do that again. So I do not want this wedding season diet that you're about to go into. Well, I've had two physicians tell me that it was a bad idea to do it that way,
Starting point is 01:13:58 but I just don't know, though. I feel like that's the only way that I could look good for like two days, and then it just comes right back every time. I can't judge you though because I crash diet hard for any time I'm on TV. Speaking of extreme rules on Sunday, I'm currently in the middle of a smoothie fast
Starting point is 01:14:13 to find a jawline. So I can't judge you too much. I lost a jawline like five years ago. Is it healthy to like two days a month water fast like for two days in a row? Just water fast. Hold on. That's on the internet.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Does that help? That shows up on the internet all the time. The water fast, I guess, is a real thing. I think it's good for you, right? It kind of resets everything. Guys, anything in moderation is fine. Yeah, because I think two days water fast, I think I could do that. I did that for like six days.
Starting point is 01:14:42 That was miserable, but I remember the first two days weren't that bad. Yeah, but your mindset was you're going win 10 grand nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine dollars sorry so it's the i anytime i do these fucking crash diets to find a jawline for tv those the first day is so fucking hard because it feels as if the people around me not just you guys but sam included order the best food of all time and And it's like, okay, this is just a test. Like you just, this is just a test. But then when you lay down in bed at night and everybody else is asleep and it's just you and your taste buds, it is very difficult to go to bed whenever you just, there's a
Starting point is 01:15:18 Cinnabon right out there in the fucking kitchen. So it's always a struggle. So I think the two day water thing would be very difficult for me i'm not sure i'd be able to well i guess if you chug a shit ton of water though you feel full especially if you're chugging those like smart waters that are like the liter bottles you do two of those i mean that's like you feel like you ate a meal what was that thing i chugged at the uh the place in columbus oh the fucking chalice was a gallon right it was oh it was a gallon of carafe that was a gallon jug that's the most impressive thing i've ever seen thank you i put her down i mean i put it on video
Starting point is 01:15:49 it didn't look as impressive because i don't think you could get the depth of the bottle so it was a glass bottle so you couldn't get the complete depth of it but that made me feel sick for sure so maybe that is the way to do it just think about doing it like the next time we know we have a vacation coming up or something like the the two days before, just do it and see what it does. I'm thinking you can lose eight pounds. Which is a lot of pounds. Yeah. A lot of pounds, by the way.
Starting point is 01:16:11 A lot of pounds. That's not bad at all. That's a noticeable difference. Okay, so what are we really going for, for this one move? I think, to spin the jacket, 28 pounds. You need to lose 28 pounds? How about 20? What about 15?
Starting point is 01:16:22 15 is the last thing. What about 10? What about five? Let's just start with five pounds. I'm an overachiever, though. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are. If you lose 15 and get down to like 330, you'll be fine.
Starting point is 01:16:39 330 would be nice. I tried to do the math in my head. What 15 with that would be, and I couldn't do it. Oh would be nice. I tried to do the math in my head. What 15 with that would be, and I couldn't do it. Oh, my God. Hey, Ty, Nick, and Todd, by the way, I don't want any tweets. I don't want any tweets about anything that just happened. I'm sorry, Z. Hey, that's the criticism I need.
Starting point is 01:16:59 You count a bill of buddies. You count a bill of buddies. So wedding season, Z is going to try to lose 15 pounds. Do you get a plus one? Yeah. Who are you trying to go? Not try to lose 15 pounds. Do you get a plus one? Yeah. Who are you trying to go? Not me. I'm looking out for you, buddy.
Starting point is 01:17:10 Who you got? Got a little something lined up? Well, he said there's a couple good-looking girls at the wedding. You fish there. Oh, okay. Yeah, you don't go there with someone. You don't bring sand to the beach. Yeah, you bring the water to the beach.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was that? Like thirst. The thirst. You wouldn't bring water, right? Thirst and water are actually kind of opposite of things. Well, the water bottle. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:31 You bring the hose. Oh, yeah. Atta boy. Maybe you take Foxy with you. Hey, you clean up too much. True. Good call. I got to bring someone uglier than myself.
Starting point is 01:17:40 Yeah, I was going to say, you think I'll watch Foxy get laid. How about this? Can we have a listener go with you to one of these weddings? Yeah. Okay, so you apply to go to a wedding with Zito. Hashtag wedding, S-Z-N-Z-E-E-T. And then hashtag PMS2. Use those two hashtags.
Starting point is 01:18:02 Take a picture of yourself so we know what we're getting into. Right, Zito? Yes, yeah. You take a picture of yourself, take a picture of yourself so we know what we're getting into. Right, Zito? Yes. You take a picture of yourself, take a picture of the suit that you would like to wear. You don't have to own it yet,
Starting point is 01:18:09 just on the internet. And then there will be a selection process to go to the wedding with Zito one month from today, August 11th. What a fucking great thing this is. And you also must be following a subscriber of the Twitch stream. Twitch.tv forward slash The Pat Mackey Show.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Okay, so I assume this is going to be electric content. This is probably something you'd want to do. I cannot wait for this. Where's the wedding? In Chicago? Yep. It's a rich wedding, too. It's a rich wedding.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Of course it is. So this person gets a free trip to Chicago. Yeah, of course it is. This is the Perez family, probably. It's probably somebody in the Perez family. So they get a free trip to Chicago. They get of course it is. You know, this is the Perez family, probably. It's probably somebody in the Perez family. So they get a free trip to Chicago. They get to go to a wedding with Zito. Yeah, it's a good time.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Zito, you know what you're signing up for. This is a lot of time with this person. I just go to the dance floor, hang out there, away from him or her. Yeah, but when are you going to fly him? Are we going to fly him in or drive him out? No, they handle it themselves. They handle that themselves?
Starting point is 01:19:02 Right. But do they come day of wedding so you don't have to deal with them like the night before? Maybe night before. No, because it's a Sunday, so. Sunday wedding? Sunday wedding.
Starting point is 01:19:12 Really? Yeah. No, maybe it's Saturday going to Sunday. That's what it is. I would assume you got no shot with any of these women if it's a Sunday wedding.
Starting point is 01:19:19 They got work on Monday. It's a big sorority girl one. So it's like. Oh. Zeet. Zeet. The 11th is a Sunday, Zeet. Yeah. one. So it's like... Oh. Zeet. Zeet. The 11th is a Sunday, Zeet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:27 So I think it's the 10th going to 11. But it's going to be in that time period. It's for sure that weekend. It's the 9th, 10th, and 11th weekend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:36 And you're going to lose 15 pounds for this? 20. Okay. I think it's feasible because you lost 43 the first time. Think about it.
Starting point is 01:19:43 We lost 11 the first weigh-in, I believe. 13 pounds. Yeah. And that was just not eating at all. But let's remember, I speak for the crew here. We do not want to deal with that. We do not want to deal with starved zeet. I think it'll be okay.
Starting point is 01:19:56 You cut out the morning burrito at 9 a.m. You cut out the midnight Taco Bell run, and I think you're shaving 10 that first week. Mid-dinner pizza. This is a mid-dinner. This is not final dinner. This is mid-dinner. It is 8 p.m. right now.
Starting point is 01:20:08 This is not dinner yet. You know, we should make him a shirt to wear this entire time frame because in boot camp, we have diet privates, they call them. So you come in overweight, you are in half rations the entire time you're there until you hit weight. So you have two red bars. You have your name on the front, and then you have two red bars,
Starting point is 01:20:28 one on top, one on bottom. So when you go through the chow line, they know you only get half of what everybody else gets. Hilarious. They don't do that anymore, I bet. There's no way. There's no way in the military. So like in West Virginia,
Starting point is 01:20:39 we did something called tour duty, and it was our winter conditioning, and it was fucking terrible. It was these stations. And if you weren giving a hundred percent in the coach's eyes They would give you a check and if you got a check checks were given if you didn't look like you were sprinting, right? If you didn't look as if you were giving your absolute most You would get a check and then the check was like, uh, I think it was a 300 yard shuttle or Some shuttle afterwards and you had to make a certain time if you didn't make time you had to make time again Like so each check was it was terrible. It was a 300-yard shuttle or some shuttle afterwards. And you had to make a certain time. If you didn't make time, you had to make time again.
Starting point is 01:21:06 So each check was terrible. It was a fucking terrible thing. People didn't sleep the night before. It was a mind fuckery. But if you got a certain amount of checks, you had to wear an orange shirt the next tour of duty. And you had to go in front of the line so you got the extra reps because each station was a certain amount of time.
Starting point is 01:21:23 So if you're in the orange shirt, you got to go first because the line goes through. So you have you got the extra reps because each station was a certain amount of time so if you're in the orange shirt you got to go first because the line goes through so you have to get the extra rep so if that first one you do bad you're miserable the entire time and they were called an orange goon i think the orange goons i believe is what he called him like hey the orange goonies get up in the front you know the deal fucking reed williams my guy reed williams is my roommate basically all through college. He showed up the first year not good, not good shape. He had an orange, and he had orange hair, right? Yeah, also a ginger.
Starting point is 01:21:53 I mean. It's glorious. It's delicious red, please. But he did have orange hair and these orange things. He had like 20 some checks. I think they were trying to make him quit early because he was just living a good life down there. He went on to be an All-American, obviously, but I'll never forget walking out of those things
Starting point is 01:22:09 when I did, because I was coming first on soccer. So I was in pretty good shape. And I mastered the fake. Ha! Ha! Yeah, you just got to be good at faking the effort. I'm running so hard right now. Not moving my legs at all. Just the upper body and walking out of there just feeling so bad for the guy.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Like, man, you just had an hour and a half of misery. That's what that shirt would be for Zito all day, basically. That's what that would be. My name would be on the inside of that shirt for sure. What's that? Because you have to get it. You deserve that shirt, right? Or do they take that shirt away, the orange shirt?
Starting point is 01:22:42 The orange shirt, you get it each day. It just shows up in your laundry. So, yeah, my name would be on that shirt right or did they take that shirt away the orange shirt the orange the orange shirt you get it each day it just shows shows up in your laundry like yeah that my name would be on that bro i'll never forget when fucking i think reed saw it the first time we got our laundry and he just looked at it and he like asked the organ like what's this mean he's like you're about to have a terrible you are about to have a terrible morning oh Oh, and then you've got to go to class, by the way. And then we got practice after that. And then you got this.
Starting point is 01:23:09 And then you got study. And he actually took school serious. He's got like four degrees. So I got none. And I got to go in the back of the line. I had a great time. And I didn't hit anybody. I mean, it was good.
Starting point is 01:23:21 I had a pretty good little run. But I think this next month for you is going to be delicious 15 pounds then 15 pounds all right there you go wedding seasons eat hashtag are you sure you want to do this with the people because somebody i gotta choose right yeah okay yeah no six packs if you're gonna apply don't have a six pack what if it's a babe oh yeah yeah well we're taking well a good wingmanman could be a lady. Good point. Oh. Oh. Not a bad call there.
Starting point is 01:23:48 A wingperson. So you refuse to take... You refuse to take... Yeah, it is a wingperson. Good call, Tom. That's on me. That was incredibly sexist of you. I know. 2019.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Yeah. I mean, they can... It's like Zito's got a checkmark. Oh, geez. Oh. Check. All right. Got a fucking gasser at the end of the show.
Starting point is 01:24:08 You wouldn't take Foxy because he's too attractive. Yes. He would cockblock the fuck out of you. Yeah. He would be a bastard. As if there's only one girl there. That is true. As if there's only one girl.
Starting point is 01:24:20 That's true because she's going to have a friend. Yes. Exactly. Oh, so you're saying. So that could work out. I'm thinking you throw Foxy out there as bait. I think, forget Foxy. Let's rule out Foxy. Let's say it is a listener. I don't think you should rule out a potential
Starting point is 01:24:33 like six pack listener because that's just that's good bait for you, I think. You know what I mean? Okay, so okay, I get what you're saying. So he's going to wheel in the hotter chicks and that chick's going to have a friend, right? That's what you're saying. So he's going to wheel in the hotter chicks, and that chick's going to have a friend, right? That's what you're saying?
Starting point is 01:24:47 Now we're talking. That's what a wing person does, by the way. That is exactly what a wing person is. Yeah. All right. If you have a six pack, you can apply. Can Foxy apply? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Will he win? I don't know. Do you subscribe to the Twitch? He does, actually. I do. I pay every month. So, listeners, you need to know that Foxy is going to be trying to win this for the next month.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Foxy is going to be trying to win this invite as well. So, you want this, you're going to really have to get this. We're going to get Zeke down to 315, first and foremost. And then I'm going to go out there and I'm going to say, hey, this is my man, Zeke. You guys should talk to him. Lure him all in for you, Zeke. And then Zeke's going to go to the dance floor. You know, quick feet, Zeke. When O- when old town road or country roads no awning safe there oh no awnings it's
Starting point is 01:25:31 over by the way go ahead incredible nomination last night i know i thought i was gonna win you didn't get the invite so okay that's kind of the first clue that was a fan favorite for sure yeah you were if views no I'm sure that Roman Reigns one. Yeah. I think it only got like probably 40, 50 million views. Yeah, I don't know if you even were the fan favorite. I think that's who won was the fan favorite. I was the underdog for sure.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Steep underdog, I'd say. Yeah. Hey, gambling's legal in Indiana, huh? Like sports books are going to be popping off January 1st, right? Yeah. No, I think it's during football season. Oh football oh really i think they're launching football season yeah because i thought it was uh going into effect here in july they were going to start yeah that's what i thought bro we gotta watch out for dicks bro
Starting point is 01:26:16 every night the sports he's gonna be an accountability buddy for sure i am serious i don't know how he's doing right now on Bro Bro Bro Bets. Are you guys on a hot heater or not? I think we're winning, but barely. Gumpy was on a streak, right? Gumpy has great stats. He has great stats. He bets like soccer and shit, right? He bets all the European stuff.
Starting point is 01:26:36 He's from Canada. Yeah. Why is he so European? I don't get it either. Is all of Canada like that? I don't think so. He told me no. He told me like we're on where he lives. It's
Starting point is 01:26:47 like people from here. He's a trendsetter, he said. Because when we were on Sirius, it felt like Canada was just all middle of America. Like all the colors we got was just like everybody. Well, he's like West Coast, right? So you gotta imagine the West Coast of Canada is probably much different than the middle. And he lives on an island. He said the people where he lives
Starting point is 01:27:03 does live on an island. Because I was like, does everybody dress like this? And he's like, no, just me, bro. I'm a fashionista, he said. He did say fashionista. Exact words. I was like, isto, I think. I don't want to gender assign you, but I think it's isto. I'm not certain.
Starting point is 01:27:17 I use babble, but I think it's o instead of a. You know a place that I liked a lot? Ankeny, Iowa. Yeah. Really? Oh. Go ahead. Really? Oh. Go ahead. Why?
Starting point is 01:27:29 Sorry. Why did you? What happens there? One thing I've learned about Todd is he doesn't like any part of Iowa except for Waterloo. Hold on. Because I texted Pat Anger.
Starting point is 01:27:38 I said, yo, I'm in Iowa. And his text back was, where are you? Why are you here? Do you want my wife to show you her tits? That was his text to me. That was his text to me and I just started dying laughing
Starting point is 01:27:51 and I said, I'm in Ankeny. He said, oh, I'm on the east side of the state or something like that. He said, it's much tougher over here than where you are. Confirmed. And that Ankeny place was beautiful. Yeah, that's habitually one of the 10
Starting point is 01:28:02 most sought after places to live in the United States. It completely makes sense. I mean, I was there for 27 hours, and I thought about moving. Honestly, I was like, this place is gorgeous. It is nice. You had people walking on the street, on the main roads, exercising. The parks were like, it looked like it was in a movie. I looked like I was in a movie of what America, i was in a movie what america like what like back
Starting point is 01:28:25 in the day it was incredible it was i stopped by casey's nice person everybody in there was super nice it was like good morning it's like good morning i was like holy shit this place is this is a fake town this is a fake town then we went around a fire pit and uh they were telling stories about how their seventh grade youth team won the state championship yeah the coaches were there they're talking about how the ankeny team won i was like this is all i am in a movie right now and i love ankeny i won't let you know i love ankeny that's great i'm glad there's a piece of iowa that you love i wait wait a minute a lot of uppity fuckers in there it felt like that i mean I thought. It felt like that. It did feel like the people I was with
Starting point is 01:29:06 were not. Right. Not everyone's like that, but by and large, my brother lives very close to Ankeny. A lot of uppity fuckers over there.
Starting point is 01:29:13 It did seem as if it was a very nice town. One of the wealthiest dudes in America lives there. Correct. And he has his own private golf course I drove by.
Starting point is 01:29:22 He started Roundup. Oh, really? Like killing weeds. This guy started Roundup. Oh, really? Like killing weeds. This guy started Roundup. Yeah. A couple billion dollars. It's a huge company. Yeah, he's got his own golf course there and the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:29:31 I played on a private golf course here in Indiana one time. The Simon guy. I've been there. I was afraid to take a divot out of the fairway. But instead, we took a fucking entire ditch. We played bad. We played bad golf. But we're the only humans there.
Starting point is 01:29:47 They had two armed security guards walking behind us. I would assume this private course is the same thing. If you're at the state where you can buy your own private golf course, I think that's when I think that's the... I thought if I took a big enough hack, that guy was going to pull that gun out and execute me right there. That's the vibe. It was
Starting point is 01:30:03 being sent. and by the way we're not certain that isn't facts like we're not certain that wouldn't have happened i mean yeah there's a couple big there's a big divots i was sprinting to fucking fill it like give me sand probably so soft too like so easy to leave a massive divot so the simon guy owns the simon malls right so all the simon malls he's from the Simon guy owns the Simon malls, right? So all the Simon malls, he owns, he's from Indiana. He owns the Indiana Pacers.
Starting point is 01:30:28 He passed away, but he was a member of crooked stick, which is a legendary golf course here in India. PGA comes through here. The senior PGA. This is like where all of the uppity fuckers, Indiana in ties words would play golf. Beautiful course.
Starting point is 01:30:44 I almost had a hole in one there. I've never almost hit a hole in one in my life. There I almost hit a hole in one. It was like, it was a really cool time. The legend goes, I don't know if this is a factual statement or not. It's a legend. The guy that owns Simon Mall enjoyed alcohol. Okay, so he drank every once in a while. He was a member of Crooked Stick.
Starting point is 01:31:01 He crashed a golf cart. Got kicked out of the country club. Bought the property across the street. Built his a golf cart, got kicked out of the country club, bought the property across the street, built his own golf course. Fucking legend. It's awesome. It's right across the street. It's like literally right across one line of trees and it's just right on there.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Nicer golf course is right across there. No one could play on it. No one could play on it. Me, Nick, CFO Phil, Larry Bird, Bill Clinton. Those are the people playing on the golf course. I have no idea how we got in there. I still don't have – I think we got invited back too, which is awesome.
Starting point is 01:31:37 I mean, at that point, you just have so much money. Well, yeah, because the guy's widow lives in the house in the middle of the course, and I guess she's kind of a recluse, doesn't really come outside much, but came out and actually wanted to talk to you yeah big day this this lady they were like uh yeah the the wife the widow lives in that house she never comes out of the house and then all of a sudden we're playing and like we see like the door open it's a massive door and they're like oh she's outside and it's like for the workers there is even a big deal they're like oh my god what do we do they're like on the radio like uh should we leave and then she was she like wanted to say hello which was very cool i was like okay lady hey nice golf course you got here by the way nice house dude
Starting point is 01:32:15 thanks for not shooting us hey thanks for not killing us they had like fucking uh towers and everything on there yeah for like snipers what yeah because i think when clinton played there they had uh like they had the secret service everywhere so when he flew in and played there they had like people in towers and shit i mean it's that's the level though by the way i think i've decided private aviation is a great state of wealth that we should all be we're all striving to get to in this room for sure absolutely but i think what we really should be keeping our eyes on is potential private golf course.
Starting point is 01:32:46 That's where we should be looking at boys. Is that tied with Island owning Island? Oh, I always thought that was the top. The Island is the top. And then you have a
Starting point is 01:32:55 golf course on the Island. Par three. Yeah. Have a little par three. I like to hit the big stick once in a while though.
Starting point is 01:33:02 You know, I mean, you can't, I could play the same four holes over and over. It wouldn't bother me. So my dad's family, like his cousins, are, I don't want to say they're river people, but they're river people. Oh, Creek Boys. Yeah, it's Creek Boys.
Starting point is 01:33:16 Creek Boys. They lived on an island in, I think it was the Allegheny River, which in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So, I mean, you're talking about an incredible group of human beings. They have a little four-hole golf course on the island that went through the houses. Oh, awesome. Yeah. They play it.
Starting point is 01:33:33 I think I played there. I mean, you have a par three, two par fours, and a par five, you know? Four holes. All right, now you're talking. Now we're talking. I think it was five holes, though, what you just said. A par three, two par fours, and a par five. Oh, no, I'm wrong. I might have said it differently. A five holes, though, what you just said. A par three, two par fours, and a par five? Oh, no, I'm wrong.
Starting point is 01:33:46 I might have said it differently. A par five, though. I don't know if that's going to have to be a lot of land. It would be, you're right. But you know, on that private course we played on, they used the same green for like two different holes. Yeah, you tee off from wherever you want. Get a dog leg in there.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Yeah. That one green was unforgiving. I mean, it was so big. I almost drained like a 400-foot pot. But mean, it was so big. I was trying to like 400 foot pot. But then it rolled off the green. And then I had to chip it and it rolled off the other side. And then I picked up
Starting point is 01:34:12 and went and talked to the widow lady. And then we left. And that's how the day ended. But that is, I think that is where we should be trying to get to. There are so many Simon Malls. I know. And they pay rent. So it's just real so many Simon malls. I know. Everywhere.
Starting point is 01:34:26 And they pay rent. So it's just real estate. So all the stores pay rent. Exactly. So it's like the Walmart mentality, but with an entire fucking mall. Yeah. And I realize, I guess they have a huge piece of LA just on lock, like really nice malls out there that I thought it was just Indiana. It's everywhere.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Yeah. The bigger ones in Vegas is theirs. Yep guess i guess they have houses everywhere too like i guess they have pretty i wonder how many golf courses he has oh i wonder how many country clubs he's been kicked out pebble beach right across the street so if i go to a mall does it just say simon on it or it's just one of those things you'll be able to see there's like simon mall it'll say simon mall on it and that guy's from indiana and it's a fucking pretty cool thing a lot of very wealthy people here in indiana by the way yeah i know and it always blows my mind like up toward where you live you go around the geist reservoir in those areas and i'm like how are there this many people in the indianapolis
Starting point is 01:35:18 area that make that much money but there are where the fuck does all this money come from there's a lot of companies that are started in indiana and there's a lot of companies that are headquartered in indiana because it's pretty centrally located it's easy to kind of ship out and i think our taxes are good yeah so like there's a lot of companies that are headquarters you got a lot of ceos and presidents of companies here and shit it's just what you don't really know because we don't do a lot of functions i mean i don't go to a lot of functions i don't i don't like them i don't like i don't like fake talking to people that I don't, will never talk to again, that I have nothing in common with.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Oh, congrats, man. You like the tartar. I got a friend named Zito. He's trying to lose 20 pounds. Can't fucking eat it, sorry. So I don't really shake a lot of the hands of these people. But then whenever you run into them, like for instance, a guy that fucking started Exact Target.
Starting point is 01:36:09 The guy that started Exact Targets from Indiana and I was at a golf outing and there was an auction after the golf outing. I had just signed my first contract and I'm sitting in like one of the front tables and the auction was a trip for four private plane, VIP Saturday Night Live. Okay? Impossible tickets a trip for four private plane vip saturday night live okay impossible tickets to get yeah plus a private plane so i was ready to go i was ready to go for
Starting point is 01:36:31 this one like all right we'll start the bidding at ten thousand i'm like yep i'll take that for sure i mean i've spent worse money and the guy behind somebody behind me is like fifteen thousand i'm like really quick i'm like all right i mean sixteen thousand guys like twenty thousand i'm like what the fuck i'm like uh 21 000 guys like 30 000 what the fuck is going on so i go i look back at him i'm like what the fuck and the whole room's like laughing right the whole room is laughing and the person sitting at my table shows me a phone and it's a news article on his phone from google exact target just sold for 2.8 billion like a month before that like this guy literally just
Starting point is 01:37:05 became a billionaire at the same time i became a millionaire and it's just a complete complete different ball game and it was like hey you know you got it but i should have ran it up though for the chair yeah like 170 the guy's really cool though he was like a cool dude he was his name was scott good guy now he runs a company called high alpha here in town and i think they just are venture capitalists but it's it's one of those things where you you never know when you're in a room with a billionaire and especially in an auction you got to really keep your head on a fucking swivel man if i had a couple more cocktails that day i think i would have kept going I'm happy the person at my table is like that's Scott oh hey I hope it's funny show me it's a funny show good guy though he came up to me he said yes me if I wanted to go with him oh nice yeah but he picked one of the ones where I couldn't
Starting point is 01:38:04 go and I don't think he ever followed up either. So I think it was a very friendly offer. I think he has a McAfee jersey. Oh, that's good. That's boss. Yeah, he's a good guy. Billionaire, cool guy that I like. It's incredible that there's that many people.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Because whenever I would drive through, like I said, I was always in my mind, I'm like, all right, there's this many Colts, there's this many Pacers. There's everybody else. You know what I mean? How many doctors are we getting? Is there lawyers just doing it? How many crimes are being solved?
Starting point is 01:38:31 It is. That boat. I don't go on the lake much because of water. By the way, I was in water in Hawaii. Saw that. How was it? Good. The year's good.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Let's go. Nice. I did those drops. I'm about to be a fish. Congratulations. Thank you so much. I'm good in water, too. I still got it, by the way. I was riding a bike. Congratulations. Thank you so much. I'm good in water too. I still got it by the way.
Starting point is 01:38:45 I was like riding a bike. It's only been like 20 years. No, it's literally been 14 years since I've been in water. Jeez. That's so crazy. Had to feel good, right? It was pretty cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:55 But as soon as I went underwater without it, I was so scared. I was like, fuck, ruin the whole trip. Just ruin the whole trip. For those that don't know, I had a hole in my eardrum when I was in college like 19 years old I tried to fight a wave and the wave fought back it crashed on my head
Starting point is 01:39:11 and it popped my eardrum big surfer injury big surfer injury and Navy SEAL yeah Navy SEALs have this problem Chris
Starting point is 01:39:19 Kyle Chris Kyle first time he went to Bud's had to leave Bud's because the hole in his eardrum because it was so bad so me me and Chris Kyle, first time he went to Bud's, had to leave Bud's because of the hole in his eardrum because it was so bad. So me and Chris Kyle kind of understood where Chris Kyle was coming from.
Starting point is 01:39:30 I read two pages of his book that was on the second page, and I stopped. I was like, I love this guy. But it's a good book. I think you should read it. I read two pages. It was incredible. I'm not a reader.
Starting point is 01:39:42 But I burst my eardrum, couldn't get it surgically repaired which is an option because the season was right around the corner you're not allowed to do any physical activity for like four weeks because your eardrum is so sensitive to any movement or anything like that so you're not allowed to do any like kicking I wouldn't be allowed to do anything
Starting point is 01:39:58 so I just had to deal with it they're like it might cure itself too though like it might I'm like well I got no faith in my ears so I lived in like stereo for fucking like a year like half my head couldn't hear anything yeah it was a wild scene i mean it was a weird scene but then one day it kind of like came back a little bit it was like back to normal but then so i got a little you know i was like i'm gonna go fucking dive right into the water here and then for 14 days my ear just drained like blood and it was just like uh so i was like okay
Starting point is 01:40:25 that's cool we're just never going in water again that's what we're never going to do because i will never have four weeks where i can't do any physical activity literally in my life i'll never have four weeks where i just can't do anything so my entire life and even through my adulthood i'd go to these vacations i would never get in the water i would just look at it if i got in the water i'd have my whole palm over my ear and i would just dunk my head basically and then i went to an ear doctor and this guy gave me some of these drops and basically it's like uh these drops are just like super cure they like kind of figure it all out and i'm back in water again it was it was nice to be back in there i grew up in the water i used to jump off the roof of my house into a pool i mean i was born in the water and now i'm back in it and it's
Starting point is 01:41:06 it's a good feeling it was a really but i was so scared yeah i bet that first day i went underwater i was like fucking idiot bro was it worth it just took a piss two seconds ago now you're just swimming that's a real thing though because like if i would have got sunburned the way i did the first day we were in the bahamas it would have ruined the rest of the trip. For sure. So I went to sleep that night on my right ear. I was like, all right, let's just plan for this thing to drain out. And I woke up and there was nothing on the pillow.
Starting point is 01:41:33 I was like, look at me. He's back. Fucking Aquaman's back. Are you a cannonball guy or a diver? I don't really jump in. I kind of walk in. Yeah, test the water. No, I'm just like, hey, let's not be ridiculous here.
Starting point is 01:41:49 We're not a YMCA. I'm a cannonball guy. Of course you are. You were with the fucking kids. I went to a resort with 4,000 kids during my break. It was great. Deserted Island was how this place was pitched to me. Every kid in America went there.
Starting point is 01:42:03 It was fucking great. The fucking population of the island was 3,000 was pitched to me. Every kid in America went there. It's fucking great. The fucking population of the island was 3,000 before we went there. With those kids, at least 15,000. Loud screaming. But there's an adult pool. It was like a restaurant that had, back in the day,
Starting point is 01:42:17 that had a smoking section and a non-smoking section where there's no divider. That's why I was like, adult pool's here and then there's like two bricks and then it's like the kid pool here. It's like, great. Can't hear them at all just fucking screaming bloody murder
Starting point is 01:42:28 because their uber wealthy parents have never hung out with them before this is their first time hanging out with their parents it was a great trip though i had a good time back in the water back in the game wouldn't get in that ocean though those waves they look serious waves sam fucking tried to get in what a hilarious joke that that was. We're sitting in the room. We had a room that could overlook the water. She was like, I want to go get in there. I was like, are you kidding me? I was like, just watch this fucking kid right there.
Starting point is 01:42:53 And there's one kid trying to walk in, and he fucking, boom, took him right off his feet. You saw him pop up later. He just got knocked out like fucking Ben Askren. He looked like Ben Askren. These kids look like ben askren she's like no it looks like if you get past that though it's good so i was like all right let's do this so we walked down there and i was so excited to watch this she got she got into like knee deep
Starting point is 01:43:16 in this massive fucking tsunami game i mean it was the biggest wave of the day and it sprayed so hard off of her legs right up to her face it just went like right in her nose in her fucking eyes and then like i think they're like her face just got blasted and uh she just turned around and walked back and uh she sat down and she got like a towel like on her face and i was so excited i was like so how do we like it was that a lot of fun did you get past the waves she said it was fucking terrible i don't know why i thought that she like yelled at me like you're supposed to tell me these like we're a team you're supposed to be like no and i was like listen i was very excited to watch you do that as well i saw a little kid die
Starting point is 01:44:00 i was excited to see my fiancee potentially take me. Maybe blow out your eardrums. See what I've been living with. The ocean looks like so much fun, but it's really not. I remember the first time I jet skied in the ocean. The spray hits you right in the fucking eyes. And the salt water stings so bad. Like after five minutes, I'm like, I'm done. Any given moment, that fucking jaws can exist.
Starting point is 01:44:22 Dude, there's one right now. There's one that was on the internet yesterday. Yeah, near Nantucket or out there near Boston. And it's Jaws. Huge. The Jaws. Like actual fucking Jaws. That's Jaws country right there. I think everywhere is
Starting point is 01:44:37 though, by the way. I think those things are starting to just move everywhere. I think you're right. Yeah. That's what we've been talking about, right? Because of the weather, the climate change and stuff, they're starting to move around to areas they've never been at before thank you so much for bringing that up okay stick with me here with the weather change do you think there was a global warming monkey that yelled at all the other monkeys when fucking pangea split apart this is your fucking fault like do you think there was a monkey that was like this is i told you guys we need to stop fucking farting
Starting point is 01:45:10 because imagine imagine like pangea used like our earth used to just be one big piece of land and then it just all broke apart it's very easy to see that when you look at a map it's all just pieces of puzzle and now the world is changing again and everybody's losing their mind. It's global warming. We're causing this. This is a big problem. I couldn't even fathom what the animals thought whenever they were just standing there and their fucking family was just getting taken away in the Atlantic Ocean.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Come on. It's going so fucking fast. Can't come back. Do you think there was any animal that was like this is our fault. I've been trying to fucking tell you. I told you to eating to me bananas we told you guys the banana shorties the continents are separated yeah that's honestly yeah it was probably i'm sure there was that's that's the state of mind i was in in hawaii but i was sitting there staring at the ocean some kid was screaming and i was just like how these fucking islands happen i was like
Starting point is 01:46:04 literally how am i sitting on this island right now it's out in the middle of fucking nowhere some kid was screaming and i was just like how these fucking islands happen i was like literally how am i sitting on this island right now it's out in the middle of fucking nowhere those island the hawaiian islands are just out in the middle of nowhere they're so awesome there's so many deep thai roots to like the natives there and it's a spiritual thing i'm like how the fuck did this place get here and then it looks like mars like there's this red sand like this red rocky thing i'm like what the fuck is this place? And then I started thinking about it. I'm like, was this part of Pangea, man?
Starting point is 01:46:30 Did these three just say, yep, we're going by ourselves here? Am I really on some spiritual ground? These things broke apart from everything? And then I was like, but wait a minute. What happened when that fucking Pangea happened? There had to be some real hell to pay. There had to be some real confused motherfuckers. Like, yo, what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:46:47 Do you think, too? So it probably took a couple years, hundreds of years to actually separate, right? A couple hundred years, you think? A million years to separate. I don't know. Do we know that answer? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:46:58 I assume there were fault lines there maybe, and then they came apart a little bit. Do we know the answer on how fast they went, though? I have no idea. I've never learned that in my books. You read a lot of them. maybe and then they came apart a little bit. Do we know the answer on how fast they went though? I have no idea. I've never learned that in my books. You read a lot of them. But like,
Starting point is 01:47:09 do you think they had a decision though to jump to the next island? No. That's what I'm saying. They didn't. We're talking about millions of years, guys.
Starting point is 01:47:16 Millions. Who told you that? No, let's not do this. Was it the same books Let's not do this. Was it the same books that told you the food pyramid was the fucking food pyramid?
Starting point is 01:47:24 That was a sham. Because by the way, the food you the food pyramid was the fucking food pyramid? That was a sham. Because, by the way, the food pyramid, completely wrong. The smartest food people and nutritionists of their time, completely wrong for dozens of years. Zito got the upside down food pyramid. That's what they say it is now, though. That's what they say it is. They get rid of the bread. I was right the whole time.
Starting point is 01:47:41 No, no, you got to get rid of the bread. That's what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were so close. I kept that one. But you're saying it took millions of years for this? Yeah. I mean, it's still happening.
Starting point is 01:47:49 They're still moving. No way. The platonic plates. Tectonic. Tectonic, not platonic. They're very friendly plates. Yeah, platonic plates are plates that don't have sex with each other. No, the San Andreas was not platonic.
Starting point is 01:48:00 I put out a tweet asking if this is what it is. So one side is just not happy with the other side, so they decided to split. That's what they're going to say. That's what San Andreas fault is. So they're not plutonic. And that's how those Hawaiian islands popped up. Those plates bumping into each other, pushing upwards, and then volcanoes going off on top of that, and then the ash cools,
Starting point is 01:48:17 and then that becomes landmass, and so on and so forth. So we're saying, though, is the global warming caused Pangea? I don't know the answer to that. No, I always thought what I was learned was that it was glaciers. So maybe glaciers carving up waterways. See, but now glaciers are the same thing, right? And the same thing happened with glaciers? Like, is that?
Starting point is 01:48:38 Essentially. Wait, geysers or glaciers? Glaciers. Both, really. Yellowstone, bro. Both, really. But yeah, bro. Both, really. But yeah, it's all the water and the earth. Yeah, water made pretty much everything.
Starting point is 01:48:51 It eroded the Grand Canyon. But Pangean never gets brought up whenever we're talking about global warming and the earth changing. It's like, maybe it's just time. Yeah, so why are there no scientists saying, you know what, this is just part of the evolution? Now granted, I do think- There are scientists saying that. But what they're saying now is we're accelerating. Yes, okay.
Starting point is 01:49:06 That's their spin. I am not saying that we are doing good to them. Right, right, right. I do not want that to be misconstrued here. Right. But I just don't see how. I just don't see how after all these years that it's all of a sudden an SUV is fucking killing the Earth.
Starting point is 01:49:21 I don't understand how. The Earth's been around for millions of years. I don't understand that. And maybe it's because for millions of years. I don't understand that. And maybe it's because I'm not educated. I mean, that's probably, I dropped out of college. Maybe that's potentially why. But it is, I understand that there is probably heating, and I understand the glacier things,
Starting point is 01:49:34 and I think it's terrible. But I'm just saying, man, what happened during Pangea? Is that something that's potentially happening? I know. Is our earth control itself? And the way that you find out years and years later decades later The what you learned decades before what's completely wrong like the food pyramid you think you know? Yeah, like some of these green things that are gonna be like 50 years from now. They're like all that
Starting point is 01:49:56 That eco fuel yeah, it's actually a price you guys were burning holes in the concrete It's just melting into the fucking earth's core which was setting off fucking volcanoes. Like honestly it's such an insane thing. But I do think we should take care of the earth.
Starting point is 01:50:11 Yeah it's just like everyone's shooting their shot. You're trying your best and some of it's not going to work out. Some of it's going to backfire.
Starting point is 01:50:16 I feel like 20 years from now they're going to be like oh the Prius caused autism. They're going to be like god damn it Toyota. Damn you Toyota. Damn you, Toyota.
Starting point is 01:50:25 The Civic was fine. Hey, by the way, Toyotas are made in Indiana. By the way, there's another fun fact. A little callback to rich people. There's a lot of rich Toyota people here in Indiana. I was told that whenever I turned down a Toyota deal because I only drive American. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:39 And then they started spamming me with emails about how American, they're the most American car out there, I guess. Good for Toyota. Shout out to Toyota, but if they're causing autism, fuck. But it's Bill Nye. I mean, he yelled at me on the internet. He fucking took a torch to the earth
Starting point is 01:51:01 and told me to wake the fuck up. And I'm like, bro, I got a Tesla. Get off of me. It comes and goes. I mean, there were ice ages in the past fuck up. And I'm like, bro, I got a Tesla. Get off of me. It comes and goes. I mean, there were ice ages in the past. That's what I'm saying. Right. How come those are never brought up?
Starting point is 01:51:10 Also, though, at this point, if it's already being accelerated, there's not a whole lot we can do to stop it. If it's already happening, it's fucking happening. I'm all about doing nicer things. I hate paper straws. Yeah, the worst. I've learned you gotta flip them halfway so you get both sides.
Starting point is 01:51:31 Did you see that lady fell on the metal straw and died? She stabbed herself with the metal straw. Off her nose? Like the fucking sea turtle. That's the biggest piece of irony I've ever seen in my life. Rest in peace to that lady.
Starting point is 01:51:43 I'm so sorry that happened to you, but that's what's happening in sea turtles, right? They're saying the straws are going up their noses. So, I mean, it's almost like that's scripted there. I used the paper straws in Hawaii and I felt as if I was really doing the world a favor. I felt like I was doing good.
Starting point is 01:52:00 But man, they're going to make those better papers. They're going to make better papers. I think they're cheaping out on the paper. I think they're cheaping out on the paper. I think they're cheaping out. The bend halfway through my fucking smoothie. Come on, guys. Can we at least make it out of some nice card stock or something? It is one-ply toilet paper fucking straws.
Starting point is 01:52:16 That's exactly what it is. Can we make turtle masks and give them to all the turtles? I'll wear a block. You know what? I don't hate this. This is a good idea. Who's buying them? Are we selling them to the government? the same as like using like the paper straws i can imagine that cost take that money no people are buying the paper straws though like the restaurants are using and we're buying there's a business there so if we make are the turtles paying us for the
Starting point is 01:52:37 masks or who's paying i think it's more of a zeet vigilante operation where he goes and just outfits the turtles himself hey don't worry i got you guys we've got a bunch of ninja turtles going around uh we'll figure out the world's problems here one day yeah but i i thought about pangea a lot out there in hawaii thought about pangea it is wild and i was like how come bill nine ever talks about pangea like how come he ever talks about what happened to Pangea? Imagine all the sea animals getting, like, new real estate. Bro, so much more.
Starting point is 01:53:09 It opened up, and they're like, dude, hey, new tunnels. It's fucking cold up here. Let's go back down. That would be awesome. But the flooding, I mean, everything's happening. It's obvious that climate change is happening. Very obvious that climate change is happening. No doubt. Very, very,
Starting point is 01:53:26 very obvious. And I'm assuming humans are to blame for it. But I would also think the Earth is probably to blame. I think the sun too, right? Might as well. You know the sun does play a part. That's what I thought. By the way, Zac Brown hates the sun. There's a
Starting point is 01:53:42 fire in the sky. Great way to describe the sun. There's a fire in the sky. Great way to describe the sun. Yeah. There's a fire in the sky. By the way, that fucker shows up at like 5.30 a.m. in Hawaii. Just fucking ready. That'd be tough. Ready to go. Yeah, but it's 9.30 a.m. Or actually 11.30 a.m. our time.
Starting point is 01:53:55 I never knew they had their own time zone. Hawaii does? Yeah, it's called the Hawaiian time zone. Were you on Indiana time the entire time you were there? Oh, yeah. Like your body? So you woke up well-rested? Me and Sam were hiking at 6 a.m.
Starting point is 01:54:06 I felt like Mark Wahlberg in The Rock. I was like, look at us, Sam, fucking hiking at 6 a.m. By 9 a.m., we had already worked out, hiked, had breakfast, and were ready to lay out. We were like the most- That is clutch for vacation, though. Oh, it's awesome. For sure. Coming back, though, was quite an issue.
Starting point is 01:54:23 I can imagine. Quite an issue, because it's the complete opposite. Yeah, jet lags eat. Those pods, though's awesome. Coming back, though, is quite an issue. I can imagine. Quite an issue, because it's the complete opposite. Yeah, jet lags eat. Those pods, though, man, they're very pricey. I enjoy those a lot. I'd almost prefer flying to Hawaii than flying to Arizona. On that flight, you have to have that, right? Have to.
Starting point is 01:54:39 There's somebody in the back back there. I don't know how they did it. It's like our flight to Japan. Anthony Costanza refused to pay the fee to upgrade to the pod he's six foot fourteen he's sitting the fucking back like costanza bad decision here bub on the way home he got the pod but on the way over there he's are they just first class uh yeah see i think like whole plane should be outfitted like that i think there are certain planes like people have uh virgin virgin yeah that's how it should be if you're taking a flight anything longer than like four or five hours,
Starting point is 01:55:05 I feel like it's just a lot of people would want to sleep on it. Hawaii was eight hours. Yeah. Seven and eight hours. That's as long as it takes to fucking fly to Paris. Yeah, if you go the other way. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:15 I mean, that's absurd. But by the way, I would rather do that than a three and a half hour trip on southwest of Vegas. Yeah, for sure. Because that fucking trip, you're just miserable. Well, home from Vegas. Oh, yeah. To Vegas. Yeah, for sure. Because that fucking trip, you're just miserable. Well, home from Vegas. Oh, yeah. To Vegas.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Yeah. You're just, your mind's set. I'm about to ruin my life. What's in the pod? What's that? What's in the pod? You got a TV.
Starting point is 01:55:34 They have these noise cancel, because I had a fucking, I had the entire McAllister family on the way out there. The entire McAllister family was in the first class. They bought every other ticket other than me and said,
Starting point is 01:55:44 I don't know how rich these people were, but they flew 45 kids in first class in the pod. Those are all the kids in that fucking thing. family was in the first class they bought every other ticket other than me and said I don't know how rich these people were but they flew 45 kids in first class in the posse those are all the kids in that fucking thing it was all the kids
Starting point is 01:55:49 in fucking Lanai probably but there was this one baby that they were like almost it felt like they were poking the baby to cry like the other kids
Starting point is 01:55:57 were like and it was right behind me and I'm like are you kidding me bro and they give you these Bose headphones and it was noise cancelling completely plug it in you got all these tvs i saw the um the dude the um the
Starting point is 01:56:12 big lebowski i watched the big lebowski oh you you watched the big lebowski i watched that's mind-blowing to me the first 40 minutes i'm impressed you got that far i fell asleep though yeah it's a slow roller there's a sequel coming out on the Jesus. It reminded me of that. Yeah, it's been off. When are you tweeting it? I was like, oh, fuck. I got to tell Nick.
Starting point is 01:56:29 I watched that. I'm impressed. What'd you think? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. In fairness, it's a movie you have to watch multiple times. You pick up on the little things. Do you agree that John Goodman was the best thing in that movie?
Starting point is 01:56:41 Yes. His character. He was angry, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He kept yelling at donnie the whole time like he was he brought out a gun at the bowling alley oh yeah yeah yeah yeah he doesn't fucking roll on chavez yeah he was good i i enjoyed the whole thought of it you know yeah he was the dude
Starting point is 01:56:54 you know it's like quite a stance to quite a hill to die on by the way that like that's not my name my name is the dude you know what i I mean? He was pretty pissed off. And I was like, alright, if that's your thing, that's your thing. Duder or Duderino. I respect it. I'm going to finish it though. I liked it. I didn't love it, but I liked it. I didn't fully understand why everybody...
Starting point is 01:57:17 Again, it's one of those things where upon multiple viewings you start to notice it pick up on little things. You're like, oh, that makes sense. Oh, I get it now. And I didn't didn't finish it and where you stopped it really takes off after that there's a lot like a lot of action from that point if it means anything my pod did watch the entire movie that's awesome though that was something i never thought you would even think about watching it was there there was a lot of the options limited they got like their own netflix selection there you know and i'd seen a lot of the good stuff that was on there.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Then that popped up and I was like, it's in the classic section. I was like, here we go. Mighty Ducks was on there. That got turned on for a little bit. Then I went to bed. It was like I'd pass out and I'd wake up. I'd turn something on and I'd pass out and I'd wake up. That's why I loved it.
Starting point is 01:58:02 I loved the flight to Hawaii and back. Loved it. Absolutely loved it. You're just in your own little world there got full internet like this is not bad at all i should do that easy oh you can knock out three movies whatever it's i watched the sopranos on the way back from uh not sopranos um the godfather series oh nice on the way back from japan it's fucking incredible yeah never in my life would I ever do that, ever. Those are long movies. Yeah, long ones. Those are long movies. Good news, long flight. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:28 Long ones. And the pod is like six foot long, and it's like three feet wide, and it's just like your own little world in there. They bring you food. It's awesome. It's so expensive, but it's fucking worth it. Would you rather like three long movies or eight short movies in that time period?
Starting point is 01:58:44 Well, you never see a guy in an office with 45 fish. You know what I mean? You see one big fish. That's very true. Good point. It depends. I mean, I saw I, Tonya
Starting point is 01:58:53 the last time I went, right? I watched I, Tonya and then, is that the movie I, Tonya? Yeah, I liked it. I liked that movie a lot. It was like a mockumentary type thing.
Starting point is 01:59:00 Yeah, I enjoyed that movie. Todd loves that movie. I do. I loved it. I think it was a good movie. It really was. I thought everybody that played in that played their role perfectly the mom yeah hilarious and then the hitman the guy that hit oh yeah jeff galoo yeah oh god that guy spoiler spoiler by the way tanya not as terrible as a person as you would think yeah i think the
Starting point is 01:59:21 movie was supposed to do that but i mean nancy what's her face carrigan probably didn't love that movie but i mean the mom terrible tanya's mom's terrible it makes sense though a lot and i'm not saying this is the case with all of them but a lot of those ice skating moms and you know the ones the sports where you come up and do nothing but do that your entire life dance man or not gymnastics we learned that with Larry Nassar. Yeah, Evan. Evan. Hey, don't associate me with that. Michigan State.
Starting point is 01:59:50 You're still paying them. Patient zero, dude. And on that note, this show is coming to a close. Wait, did you hear about Toy Story being big fans of ours? Who? Toy Story. The movie, the last movie that just came out. Really?
Starting point is 02:00:04 A lot of rv awning jokes no way yeah i feel like we're really steering the ship for a lot of people and i think it's about at some point we're gonna get credit for it yeah i mean kim jong-un we basically launched him into super start for sure nobody was talking about him until we started talking about him. Fucking sleeping Joe. Mexico Joe. What are these doing? Sleeping. Sleeping.
Starting point is 02:00:30 Sleeping in. Sleeping in. We drive the conversation about that. Now we've got an awning thing and the biggest movie of the year. Probably Toy Story is going to be the biggest movie of the year, right? Everybody loves it. Lion King. I think Lion King comes out in a couple weeks here.
Starting point is 02:00:42 Avengers, guys. Come on. Spider-Man. I guess the end of Avengers 2, Super Bowl week. Yeah, that's true. I basically wrote the movie for him. I mean, Jesus Christ. Oh, there's another superhero movie I watched.
Starting point is 02:00:52 Spider-Man. We talked about that. I watched Spider-Man. Not the newest one. The last one. Maybe I'll check out the newest one. That guy. I'm coming around on that guy.
Starting point is 02:01:02 Tom? Yeah. Coming around on him. That's my guy, Tommy. I didn't like him at first. He's got an eight pack. He looks like he's 12. He's a gymnast. Yeah. around on that guy. Tom? Yeah, coming around on him. That's my guy, Tommy. I didn't like him at first. He's got an eight-pack. He looks like he's 12. He's a gymnast.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Yeah, incredible athlete, actually. Really? He was a gymnast and now he's an actor? Mm-hmm. That's a good move. There's gymnasts. American Ninja Warrior. They can go into wrestling.
Starting point is 02:01:16 They can go into acting. But you just got to have a terrible childhood. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. You know what I mean? I mean, it's terrible. I've watched the documentary
Starting point is 02:01:27 It's not good But they're incredible athletes Yeah they are Like fucking Ricochet In WWE NXT He's in WWE right now Bro
Starting point is 02:01:35 I can watch that dude Just stand there And do flips all day It's like hey Cirque du Soleil guy You're fucking incredible man Cirque du Soleil by the way There's another option for him
Starting point is 02:01:43 Yeah I mean there's so many things. Basically, Tom Cruise is that way until he got started because he was basically a gymnast. And he got a movie role doing his own stunts with all these flips and shit. Can we talk about the Biebs doing that fucking inside leg kick on that bottle cap? Flicking his hat at it, too? What a move. It was nice.
Starting point is 02:02:02 He needs to give the Tom Cruise stuff a rest. I don't think so after that kick. That inside kick. I watched Mission Impossible again last night. He had doubts though. Cruise will rip his fucking limbs off. I don't know. That kick was very impressive. I was super impressed
Starting point is 02:02:18 by that. I was like, good for Biebs. That was a good kick. I mean, what's he do? Just sit on his money now and just fucking chill. Yeah, I assume so. Good for him. Him and Scooter Braun pissing everybody off. Yeah. T-Swift is not happy. No. She was number one on the Forbes celebrity list, too, last year,
Starting point is 02:02:32 and she's pissed off at Scooter Braun. It's like, hey, T-Swift, not coming off optically great here. I can see why you're pissed. Maybe not a public battle here. You know what I mean? Let's just take this behind closed doors. I don't want any Taylor Swift fans coming after me for that. Her new song is great.
Starting point is 02:02:47 Just shake it off. That a baby Z. That a boy Z. Anytime. What did you want to reference? One big T-Swift guy, actually. She makes bangers. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:56 Just like Biebs. They make bangers. Is there anybody else out there that just makes bangers on a regular basis? Posty. The Fray. Post Mal Posty. The Fray. Post Malone? Yeah. Fray.
Starting point is 02:03:11 How to save a life. Imagine Dragons. Imagine Dragons. Drake. Fray. I have the Fray radio on my Pandora list. Sometimes I get into it. Well, that genre, though.
Starting point is 02:03:27 That genre. There's probably like, what? Fyce Creed, Nickelback, Frey. They're probably all in there. Do you just wait for morning to come home from a surgery and then put on How to Save a Life? Save a life. Where did I go wrong?
Starting point is 02:03:40 I've said this before. I've crafted my Pandora stations into very good stations. My Kenny Chesney station, it's all I played in Hawaii. By the way, people that were around us, I could tell that people were turning their music off, by the way, and letting my speaker just run. There you go. Because my Kenny Chesney.
Starting point is 02:03:57 That's a good feeling. Well, you have to put in work on there. You have to thumbs down the shit. Like, hey, Kenny, I don't need your negative shit right now, okay? I'm on the beach right now now and then if another negative song comes out you just gotta get rid of it as quick as possible because i think the quicker you do it too the algorithm they know hey he does not want to fuck around with this i've been doing that for my netflix recently really yeah so i didn't really realized it but if you're like searching through
Starting point is 02:04:19 it there's a thumbs up thumbs down in the panels i didn't know that i didn't know that either so yeah so like like the next couple days i've noticed i have like better flicks on there so netflix is getting rid of friends right yes and the office and all that yeah netflix is going to get stripped to the bone here in like a year and a half because every company every network is just going to have their own streaming service right everybody wants to have their own stream yes and at&t owns like fucking 90 of the content so that is going to be like the new streaming time warner yeah it's called it's going to be called hbo max i saw netflix hbo is going to be in the name of it yeah hbo max it's launching in like 2020 and it's got everything on hbo which i don't
Starting point is 02:04:56 know what that means for like hbo go and their properties but then it's got like the entire warner brothers uh catalog of movies and shit there's. There's going to be a bunch of stuff on there. Netflix is moving international. So they're really going for that market. I think it's because of all this. Create all their own content. Their original series. So could HBO Max be a great their own content like we were saying?
Starting point is 02:05:18 Yeah, I'd assume. Just like Hulu and Amazon. They've already confirmed. They've got eight, nine shows slash movies. There's another one called Quibi coming out. I only know that because we were asked if we wanted to do a show with them. Quibi. It was a trout we don't. The show that we, it's, I mean, they're offering us up for it, I guess.
Starting point is 02:05:39 It sounds like the perfect show for me and Foxy, to be honest with you. It's about two guys traveling. Nice. And they film you traveling, and you flip a coin, and you either live the high life in the city or the low life in the city. Oh, boy. This guy can't slum it. Well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 02:05:55 One person lives the high life. One person doesn't. Oh. You guys already do that. Yeah, every time. Every time. Give me that penthouse. I was like, I'm not fucking doing it.
Starting point is 02:06:04 They're like, well, we're going to pitch you for it. it's better to say no to something than to not be offered no i'm like well i'm not gonna do it i just want to let you know but it's like a month long you go to 10 different places it sounds awesome but every human we've talked to that has had a travel show they hate it remember burt kreischer was like his schedule's just crazy yeah they're like they don't like it and if i have to slum it, which will happen. Foxy will get the fucking Larry Nassar treatment everywhere. And I will be slumming. I'm like, maybe you get me when I'm 18. I'll go do this thing.
Starting point is 02:06:35 But it's a new streaming service, though, digital. They have a lot of money, I guess. They're making a lot of stuff. This is how they pitch it to me. They're like, Justin Timberlake's doing stuff with them. Bah, bah, bah. Be a good thing for you to get in with. I'm like, okay,
Starting point is 02:06:49 I'll go to fucking Bangladesh and live on the street for a fucking place. Get out of here. I'm not doing that. Well, let them pitch you first. They're not going to pitch me because they're going to listen to my podcast where I'm going to saw it down.
Starting point is 02:07:04 Like right now, climbing coonan or listening to this just like god damn pat could you not edit that out at least we don't know how much money they're gonna offer you to do i don't think there's enough i mean i wouldn't mind living like a prince in bangladesh for a little bit yeah i bet you would just let the alternative probably not great i'm probably not coming back and it And it's a month and it's a pretty long schedule too. It's like, I don't know. I like my bed. I like traveling, but I like my bed at the end of the day.
Starting point is 02:07:32 You're not relaxing at all during that. It's literally just go, go, go. Yeah. Yep, so I'm out on that. Hey, Justin Timberlake, you can take that one, bro. Look at me. Look how nice of a guy I am. Just giving Timberlake stuff.
Starting point is 02:07:47 He doesn't have enough. Don't he own Myspace? Yeah, he did buy it, I think. You know what's cooler than being a millionaire? Being a billionaire. Justin Timberlake said that. Three Comic Club. Hashtag endgang, hashtag endgame.
Starting point is 02:08:00 If you were a billionaire, what would you buy? From myself, Todd, Nick, Zito, Ty, and Foxy, have an incredible Thursday night. Huge thanks to Kirk Herbstreet. And also, shout out to us for figuring out the world's problems. Yeah. That's what we do. That is what we do.
Starting point is 02:08:15 We do. That's what we're here for, I feel like. Yeah, because some people were sent to Earth to do different things. Yeah. Elon Musk was sent to Earth to take advantage of all his planets technologies and make incredible money off of it yeah which he has done yep it's probably real dumb where he's from too you know what i mean smartest guy here oh yeah big fish i'm going somewhere else yeah i'm gonna take my my little rocket ship and go home
Starting point is 02:08:43 it would be hard not to just stay here though yeah if i'm the dumbest guy on my planet the smartest guy on this planet oh yeah yeah i would do that in a hard made they said not to surround yourself with dumb people that you never get better but you're looking pretty good ty schmidt hit the music. Hit the music. It's just a talk, smiles politely back at you You stare politely right on through Someone stored a window to your right And he goes left and you stay right
Starting point is 02:09:37 Between the lines of fear and blame You begin to wonder why you came Where did I go wrong? I lost a friend somewhere along in the bitterness And I put off staying up with you all night And I don't know how to save a life Let him know that you know best Cause after all you do know best Try to slip past his defense
Starting point is 02:10:19 Without granting innocence Lay down a list of what is wrong Things you told him all along Pray to God he hears you And pray to God he hears you And where did I go wrong? I lost a friend So where alone I go wrong? I lost a friend So we're alone in the bitterness
Starting point is 02:10:47 And I put out straight up with you all night And I know how to save a life As he begins to raise his voice, you lower yours And grant him one last choice, drive until you lose the road A break with the ones you follow He will do one of two things He will admit to everything Or he'll say he's just not the same And you'll begin to wonder why you came
Starting point is 02:11:35 Where did I go wrong? I lost a friend somewhere along in the bitterness And I would have stayed up with you all night Had I known how to save a life Where did I go wrong? I lost a friend Somewhere along in the bitterness And I would have stayed up with you all night
Starting point is 02:12:03 Had I known how to save a life How to save a life How to save a life Where did I go wrong? I lost a friend Somewhere alone in the bitterness And I put our state up With you all night And I know how to save a life
Starting point is 02:12:38 Where did I go wrong? I lost a friend Somewhere alone in the bitterness And I thought I stayed up with you all night And I know how to save a life How to save a life I'll save a life

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