The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 089 - Kirk Herbstreit & Solving The World's Problems... For Real
Episode Date: July 11, 2019On today’s show, Pat welcomes on The Voice of College Football, one of the best football minds there is, former Ohio State quarterback and friend of the show, Kirk Herbstreit. They discuss what it�...�s been like preparing for his kids to go play football at Clemson, his philosophy on dealing with trolls, why he thinks College Gameday has been so successful, whether he ever considered making a jump to cover the NFL, and who he likes this upcoming football season, in a fantastic interview (2:04-44:56). Later, Pat and the guys try to solve one of the biggest issues facing the earth today as they discuss global warming and try to connect the dots between that and pangaea. Block Dad also stops to announce the winners of the annual scholarships given out by the Pat McAfee Foundation (apply at thepatmcafeefoundation.org), they discuss the luxury of pods while flying long distances as Pat recaps some of the things he did in Hawaii while on vacation, they chat about the future of Netflix as other major streaming services emerge, and Zito sets a weight loss goal for a couple of weddings he has coming up. It’s a fun one, come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Today is an incredible conversation where we solve the world's problems yet again.
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Also, an incredible conversation with the voice of college football, Kirk Herbstreit.
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Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a handsome man.
He's the voice of college football football you can see him on game day
you can see him on prime time all fall on saturday nights used to be a quarterback now he's a football
whiz from espn mr kirk herb stream oh what is up what is up man how you doing how's your summer ESPN Mr. Kirk Herbstreit.
Oh, what is up?
What is up, man?
How you doing?
How's your summer going?
Hey, everything's going great.
And let me tell you why, Mr. Herbstreit.
Because I have a chance to talk to an absolute living legend in the college football world.
Once again, I'm so thankful you chose to join us.
Oh, man, anytime.
I always love to come on with you.
You and I saw each other in Nashville.
I think it was the night that you had a legendary moment on stage.
I mean, that will live forever.
Tell me how you came up with that idea.
Did you and your buddies come up with that?
Did you come up with it on the did you and your buddies come up with that did you come up with it on the fly how did that come about well i mean you were one of the first people i saw immediately
afterwards we left from the draft went right back to the hotel and there's uh like a group of people
like buzzing around a guy while he's going to take a piss and i like look around and they're like
i was like oh herb streets here holy shit so you go to the bathroom you come back out and you're like what are you in town for i was like oh i just did a Street's here. I'm like, holy shit. So you go to the bathroom, you come back out,
and you're like, what are you in town for?
I was like, oh, I just did a little draft announcement.
Oh, I just saw that on TV.
I was like, did you hear it? I said, did you hear it?
You're like, no.
I was like, all right, you're going to like it when you hear it.
You're like, what are you?
The NFL gave me an alley-oop there.
They asked if I wanted to do an announcement.
We all knew what was going to happen when I got up there.
I didn't plan on burying the Titans at all until Reggie Wayne went viral for
burying them.
So I had to like,
you know,
show a little team camaraderie there.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You went next level.
I mean,
do you have it?
Can we play it?
I just want to hear it.
We don't have the tech.
We don't have the tech to That was so good. We don't have the tech to do that.
But the draft, and now that the NBA is over and NHL is over,
there's something in the air.
Football is right around the corner.
It's on deck.
Are you like a kid who's excited to get back to school after summer vacation?
Are you locked down in your basement right now watching film?
What is the Kirk Herbstreit doing with football this close on the horizon?
Man, you're right.
It's like, for me, the year is in stages.
There's in-season, and you get through the national championship.
I'm a sports junkie like you.
I like it all.
I get caught up in, whether it's
college hoops, I'm a big baseball fan,
a big Reds fan, so I follow
what's going on with that and
follow some of the majors and what's
golf, and really, it's like I'm treading
water. I'm dying to get back
into football, and
when the NBA is over and we get
to the middle of the summer,
the magazines start coming out.
People start getting excited, start talking about it.
And I'm no different than everybody else.
I'm just a fan.
And so, yeah, I'm already looking at film, already starting to study,
already starting to talk with some of the coaches about how things are looking.
And, yeah, the only caveat I would try to make is I have four boys,
and two of my boys are graduating.
They've already graduated from high school, and my wife and I are taking them tomorrow to go to college.
And so that, for us, has been a major focus.
And, you know, you get to a point as a dad when your kids are going to leave home, and it's, in my case, it's very mixed emotions.
I mean, it's like you're excited, you're happy,
but you're losing two of your four boys.
I have four boys, and you're losing two of them.
So that's probably taken a lot of our energy and time
over the last few months, just kind of getting through that
and eventually dropping them off here in the next couple days
and giving them a hug and saying, go get them.
So this is something that's very interesting
because when your kids leave and go to college,
your two boys, I believe they're twins, are heading to Clemson,
walk-ons for the football team.
That's incredible, by the way. Congratulations.
Thanks.
Hey, no problem.
I assume now's the time where you just hope that all of the work ethic
and all of the morals that you've instilled in these men
is something that can carry over to a little bit of freedom
whenever they get down to Clemson.
And do you expect Dabo Sweeney to be an incredible leader to them?
Is that why you chose or helped them choose,
or if they completely chose Clemson to begin with well you know for for me i have such an interesting perspective because
i i kind of get behind uh kind of behind the curtain for all these programs like i
so all these teams they they want you to you know when you hear the the sid or whatever they give
you kind of a skill.
Well, I've been very fortunate to get behind that
and actually see these programs and kind of see how they're run.
And I think anybody could watch the Clemson program and say,
wow, that's impressive how Dabo Sweeney runs his program.
And for me to be able to not only see that, the way his team plays, that's great,
but just the way he he
runs his operation especially my boys cases where they're going as preferred walk-ons i wanted to
you know kind of give give them the opportunity to look to see where they wanted to go but at the
same time kind of give a blessing of okay if you're going to go in these circumstances that's
a great place and they they kind of looked around, and they didn't want to play smaller division,
1AA and Division III.
They wanted to go either play big and try to shoot for the stars
or not play at all.
And so I said, cool, you know, if that's your thing, go for it.
And they decided to go to Clemson. And with my relationship with Dabo, like I said, cool, you know, if that's your thing, go for it. And they decided to go to Clemson.
And with my relationship with Dabo, like I said, what I've seen from them,
I was so elated and happy for them because I know beyond just the football part of it,
when you're letting your kids go, they're going to a culture that you really believe in
and you really feel good about where they're going.
And like you said, you hope what you've instilled in them combined with where they're going ends up being a good thing for them.
And we'll see four or five years later how it goes.
But I'm very confident in the location and the coaches and the culture.
Okay.
So congratulations.
That's spectacular. Appreciate it. Okay, so congratulations. That's spectacular.
Appreciate it.
Yeah, no problem.
The preferred walk-on, by the way,
is just a step towards getting a scholarship if you go and earn it,
especially nowadays.
Clemson has to be elated that your children are going there,
strictly because you are the voice of college football at this point.
Is there any worry for you?
Any worry at all for you because you hear it whenever
because you were a player at ohio state i'm sure there's people that are like oh this guy the way
he talks about this team he's is there any worry about the haters in the potential backfire that
could come from having two kids in a program that is going to be on primetime television on a very
regular basis they're going into national championships that is going to be on primetime television on a very regular basis.
They're going into national championships.
You're going to have to talk about them.
Has there been any thought by you, or is it just kind of like a fuck them all type thing?
I do what I have to do.
Yeah, I think the latter, really.
I think I went ahead and jumped on that bandwagon about 10 years ago in every category beyond my kids.
I think you have to to survive in this world that we live in, especially when you live in the public eye.
I think you get all kinds of negative criticism about, can't believe they didn't go to Ohio State.
You're a traitor.
You get all kinds of stuff.
And I've heard people say, well, you're not going to be able to call Clemson games
because your kids go there.
What are you talking about?
I mean, of course I'll be able to call Clemson games.
And hopefully they're in a position down the road where they're actually out on the field
and contribute.
Who knows?
But no, man, you know, living in the world that we live in with social media
and people can reach out to you at any moment that people love to be
cynics and jackasses and do whatever they can to try to ruin your day. But I guess I'm just
numb to it. I don't even hear it. It doesn't even really impact me. I think for them,
just because they've been in somewhat of a bubble and kind of the way you have to raise your kids when you live in the public eye, you know, to let go and to kind of not be there.
I think it would be an eye opener for them to kind of see what it's like to live out and deal with the last name and deal with some people are going to recognize their last name and some people are going to like them and some people are
going to hate them just because of their last name, you know,
and how do you deal with that? Um, so that, that'll, that,
that's probably as a dad,
the one thing you wonder about how they, uh,
will have to deal with that because that's, that's part of their world.
It's part of, I didn't live with that.
And I don't know if you had to deal with that,
but I think when you have kids and they go out and go on their own,
that'll be somewhat of a concern for you as well.
I think it's a concern for any parent that lives in the public eye.
Absolutely.
And I don't know how anybody can hate the Herbstreet name.
You're so smooth and good on TV.
Anybody that hates you is just trying to do it to stir the pot.
I would like to say I think athletes are better at dealing with haters on the Internet.
Like I watch you kind of bury some people.
Not bury.
That is a fraught term.
But you'll engage with some trolls just because I think in the football and in the sports world, shit talking ising is something that happens. So whenever somebody – yes.
And it's hard.
It is hard for me to resist the urge, too, every once in a while
when somebody will just troll or whatever.
And I'm like, you know what?
Everybody's like, well, if you give that guy attention, you're giving him what he wants.
He's like, yeah, but what about me?
I want to talk shit to this guy, too.
Why can't I do that?
Yes.
Yeah.
It's hard.
That's me.
That's me.
I look at it as a sport.
Depending on the time of the year, I really enjoy it.
It's become, and what I do is I'll just, I'll kill them with kindness,
or I'll, and then I'll let all my followers just kind of get their machine guns out
and load on them.
You know, I let them do the damage.
And I'll say something, like someone will say something off the wall, and I'll retweet it with, I let them do the damage. But, you know, I'll say something like,
someone will say something off the wall,
and I'll retweet it with,
this is a real person.
A real person is having this thought right now.
Just let all those people follow up with,
you know, you're an idiot kind of thing.
But, yeah, I enjoy it.
And especially in the fall,
when I can literally say one sentence,
and an SEC fan will say, you're such a Big Ten homer.
You're such an Ohio State homer.
You suck.
I can't believe you.
Same sentence, an Ohio State fan will say, I hate you.
You're a sellout.
You hate Ohio State.
You hate the Big Ten.
And I'm like, okay.
At some point in the fall, I can be like,
hey, everybody have a good Tuesday.
It's Tuesday out.
Ah, F2.
It's like, all right, hey, good.
Good to see you guys.
Have a good day.
So when you realize there are people out there like that
that just despise you just for just for the fact that they
despise everybody you really can't take it personally you just kind of have fun with it
yeah i agree completely okay so college football is the most passionate football i think we can
say that i think the fan bases are insane there was a lot of chatter about you potentially getting
into the nfl how close were you to moving the Herbstreet brand and brain
into the National Football League coverage,
especially because ESPN was having a lot of turnover,
and you're so good on the microphone.
Was there a chance that you were going to be an NFL guy?
There was talk about it.
There was talk years and years ago about it with my agent,
and this is more of studio work,
and I was just determined.
Let's,
quick little story for me is,
I was not Desmond Howard.
I didn't win a Heisman.
I wasn't Pollock,
who won,
you know,
to be a three-time All-American.
I'm an anomaly,
you know,
as far as TV is concerned.
I played in Ohio State.
I was a captain.
I was,
you know,
a guy that worked hard.
I was the same era as Elvis
Gerbach and Trent Green,
an IU guy. And I was
okay. If you were in the Big Ten region, you
knew about me. But
two years later, I'm sitting on the desk at
College Game Day in 1996.
And that
wasn't really normal.
I made my name
as more of a TV guy than as a player. And, and instead of
hiding from that, instead of being embarrassed about that, I kind of accepted it. And I took
it as a challenge early in my career that I might not have the credentials that everybody, all these
other guys that TV do, but man, I'm going to outwork every single one of these guys.
I'm going to be the most prepared guy.
And that's kind of who I am to this day.
That's my goal is be prepared, be plugged in, have relationships.
There's a coach I can't call in college football that I can't have a
relationship with.
And I don't say that lightly.
Like, that's something that's precious to me because it's not BS.
It's real, the relationships, because that's how you get information.
And I've done that now for 25 years.
And so when it came to the NFL, I just really had an issue with maybe my credentials as a broadcaster
would allow me to go to an NFL booth and call a game,
but I never played in the NFL. And for me, while I think I could do a very good job in analyzing a
game and being entertaining, I was trying to be and trying to have fun with it. There's something
about never playing in the NFL that's a little bit of a roadblock for me.
And so another thing is I love college football.
It'll never get old for me because I have the same passion in 2019 that I had when I was a kid.
And it never changes because new players come in and they're hanging around for three years or four or five and and then they
leave and they go to the nfl or they graduate and here comes the next wave and for me like right now
i'm already today when i get done hanging up this call with you i'll start digging into more college
football so i'm really fortunate to do something i love in the nfl i like but i don't have that
same passion for the nfl uh that I have for the college game.
It's incredibly humble of you.
It's incredibly humble of you to do that.
I respect the passion aspect of it and feeling fulfillment and everything like that,
but having that mental hurdle of saying that since you didn't play in the NFL,
you don't think you'd be as good.
I've said this three times now on this show.
You are so good on a microphone.
I think the NFL would have been lucky.
Let me ask you this.
Do you think an NFL player or fan would respect me and my analysis?
Do you?
Yeah, let me tell you why.
I appreciate you saying that.
Let me tell you why.
Because every Saturday morning in every single NFL building, you know what's on tv college game day yeah you're a little stupid show
yeah you're uh you're a massive show that is everywhere in in the locker room the college
love still runs deep i mean there's man there's bets everywhere, not for money, obviously, for other things.
But, yeah, I think everybody knows and everybody likes Kirk Herbstreit.
So I think maybe when you were younger, like maybe when you were two years out, no.
But at this point, every single Saturday morning in every single NFL room,
and Saturday mornings, by the way, are treatment days, walk-through days.
So there's a lot of times around the TV.
College game day is on everywhere.
So I think you –
That's interesting.
Yeah, it is.
By the way, I mean, you guys only get like 40 million viewers or something.
Yeah, yeah.
No, we've been fortunate.
That show has been – it's been crazy.
You're going to come out, by the way, and be our celebrity picker one time.
Will you do that maybe this year? In a heartbeat, would do that we're doing that we're doing that this fall we'll
have to find a game that works with your schedule where you can come out and and put on a show we'll
we'll have some fun with that i'm holding you to that i'm going to tell my producer as soon as we
hang up here that that you're in okay is that kind of your show now? I don't want to, I don't want to like make you say anything to go out there,
but it feels as if you're the elder statesman.
Obviously Lee is the guy.
I mean,
Corso is hilarious.
He's an OG,
but you're the guy that is every single week.
People are looking forward to Kirk Herbstreit.
Are you the guy,
the brains behind that show?
Do they take your information?
Here's to me what makes our show what it is. Are you the guy, the brains behind that show? Do they take your information or is it a team?
Here's to me what makes our show what it is.
I would never say yes to that question because I feel like what makes our show what it is and they have the longevity.
Think about, you know, you just said a lot of great things and a lot of people, you know,
the show wins Emmys very often and it's had a lot of great things, and a lot of people, the show wins Emmys very often, and it's had a lot of success.
But we never, ever make the show about us.
We always make the show about the players and the coaches and the storylines.
I just think that the second we sit there and actually take, you know, the congratulations and, boy,
how do you guys do this, is when the show will start to fizzle.
And so I think it's about, and I'm not just trying to give you, like, a good answer here.
Like, I'm being honest.
It really is.
And Fowler, I think, was kind of like the founding father of establishing this mentality, at least for me, being on the show.
But he really pushed that.
And yeah, Lee has the headgear and there's some individual parts to the show.
But I really think the viewer, when he watches the show, he feels like he's just hanging out with three or four or five guys at a bar just sitting there talking ball.
And to me, we don't make it about us and any of that and so i would say the show is definitely that this show
what makes it what it is is it's not about me or it's not about lee corso or or desmond or david or or David or Reese. It's about us. And I go out of my way,
I guess you could say
I try to be a leader
on the show,
off the air,
as far as like trying
to make people feel,
you know,
I think that's a quarterback in me.
Like I make Tom Rinaldi
and Gene,
who's on the show,
Maria, Taylor,
like I want them to feel
in meetings and when we're eating and we're hanging out, like I want them to feel in meetings and when we're eating and we're
hanging out, like I want them to feel like they're just as big a part of the show as
anybody else on the show.
So yeah, I do, I do try to do that part of it, but I would never say, you know, Hey,
look at me type of thing when it comes to game day.
But I do the best I can behind the scenes to try to lead and help out for sure.
It looks like a real family up there, man.
It looks like you guys are really –
Yeah, it looks like a real family.
And you know from doing – I mean, I don't know if you've ever had to work
or you've played with guys.
I always equate it – like when I play football,
there are guys that I didn't necessarily get along with.
There are guys that maybe had different beliefs and philosophies in life.
But on Saturday, we had to come together, and you did.
That's a great part of the locker room is you're all kind of pulling for the same thing.
And when I got into TV, I kind of had that football mindset of team.
And when I got into TV, I kind of had that football mindset of team.
And what I found was, I'll tell you off the air, but there's people I've worked with where I had to fake that on the air. Like you have to, it's work to fake like you're having a good time with that person.
And then there's other people you work with where it's just like, wow, this is so easy.
We're stealing right now.
Like whether it's the dinner the previous night,
it just kind of carries over onto the set.
And I really think that game day,
part of what makes it,
and the same thing with Barclay's show.
Like, you can just tell those dudes
when the camera goes off,
they're still hanging out.
They're still laughing.
They're still having a good time.
And I really think in TV,
that's the secret to making it in studio TV is if you genuinely like each other, not, okay, everybody
smile. That was good. But you're really hanging out, having a good time. And that's honestly,
since I've been on game day, that's what we've had. And if we continue to have that, I think
the show will be successful. And again, you probably felt that yourself,
whether it's in radio, TV, or even in sports.
Oh, this interview is going great.
Oh, man.
I just love the way he opens up to us.
So good.
You know, there's just something about him
that he's so smart, so handsome, so famous, so wealthy,
but there's just something so real about that guy.
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He is.
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interview with another diamond k Kirk Herbstreit.
A man-made diamond, Kirk Herbstreit.
He's a man-made diamond.
Well, and woman-made.
Man and woman-made diamond.
A person-made diamond.
Well, two people.
A people-made diamond.
He's a people-made diamond, Kirk Herbstreit.
Yeah, absolutely.
And the way you said, you won't say it, but I'll say it.
The way you said Barkley Show, people say that about Game Day game day with herb street show just i just want to let you know that
just want to let you know that uh let's get back to it uh so you said you said you'll go watch film
immediately after this call i was very fortunate to get a chance to see one of the greatest
quarterbacks of all time's house right and he literally has a movie theater right off of his
dining room there's a movie theater where he goes in and it has uh the entire exo set up it's an
entire film thing that he watches in there do you have like a a film room like a theater do you have
a man cave what is the kirk herb street film study method and what is jumping out on film for you
this upcoming season that people would be
surprised by obviously trevor lawrence is going to be incredible clemson's going to do great they
got a couple herb street kids in the building uh but what is something that's really jumping
off film for you uh first of all i um espn has hooked me up with some stuff and and i a lot of
time i just at my office it's just right right off, coming to the front of my house,
it's just right off the front of the house.
But it's kind of, with four boys, you know, you've got doors on it.
It becomes like a cave where you can just kind of lock in on what you need to study.
And for me, I get everything sent.
It's usually online, so I just write on my computer right at my desk,
and I have the ability to do whatever I need to do when it comes to studying film.
A couple things that I guess I've seen.
The big mystery for people who watch college football is we've just continued to have Clemson and Alabama,
Clemson and Alabama, Clemson and Alabama.
And last year, Alabama got embarrassed, really, for the first time since Nick Saban's been the head coach.
And I think people are underestimating going into this year
how bad that hurt him on a personal level
and how beyond losing the game,
if you remember, that game got out of hand in the second half.
That's one of those where not only did it go back to the drawing board,
but for him personally, he's such, as he always talks about, a process guy.
That was not just XOs.
It was the first time I've ever seen an Alabama team have underclassmen
who had one eye on the Clemson team and the other eye on whether it was an agent
or a decision on going to the NFL.
I've always marveled at Alabama, how they've had success,
and how Nick has done an amazing job of getting his underclassmen to focus on Alabama,
to focus on SEC championships, to focus on getting to the national championship,
and doing that year after year after year.
Because as you see, not only your alma mater, but other places,
a lot of these underclassmen have a hard time.
They're either worried about, I don't want to get hurt,
or, oh, I'm going to skip this game, or it's just become such a different world.
And yet Alabama has been immune to that for the most part.
And last year was the first time that we saw a chink in the armor.
So it wasn't just that they lost.
It's their philosophy and everything that they've had going for them
kind of took a step back.
And so that, to me, is why I think Alabama's going to become
a very dangerous team.
He's had eight months to kind of go back into being the scientist
and getting these guys to buy into, okay, here's where we messed up
and here's where we're going to get back to.
That's why I think Alabama, forgetting the X's and O's and two is back,
I think they're going to become a very, very dangerous team to deal with,
like they always are.
But I think the mentality, I think, will get back in order
to what we've kind of always expected from them.
I'll tell you what, man, quarterback-wise, like talk about film,
having Tua back at Alabama, Trevor Lawrence back at Clemson,
a kid that doesn't probably get enough respect is Jake Fromm
at Georgia.
Jay Patterson at Michigan.
This Justin Field kid who was
at Georgia backing up Jake
Fromm, he's now at Ohio State.
We'll see how he can do.
How about Jalen Hurst after the
career he had up and down in Alabama?
He's now the starting quarterback
at Oklahoma. I just think in this transfer quarter era that we live in,
I think people are going to tune in that aren't like diehard college football fans.
They're going to tune in to games week one and week two and be like,
wait a second, how is this dude here?
Why is he on this team?
I mean, kids are transferring all over the place.
And so I think that kind of adds to the intrigue
and somewhat of the mystery of the upcoming season.
I like it, by the way.
I like whenever kids go and make a play for themselves.
I'm excited to see what old Jalen does.
Back-to-back Heisman winners, back-to-back number one picks
coming out of Oklahoma.
I'm excited to see what the coach can do with Jalen.
What do you think of the players that are saying,
I'm good, I'm skipping the bowl game, I'm going to get ready for the NFL?
I hate it.
I think you and I talked about this the last time you were on.
I'm not a fan of it strictly.
Well, and also, I didn't play a position where I could potentially get
decapitated in the middle of a game and lose a million dollars but for me in
college like i still talk to a lot of my teammates from college like those were my boys you know so
my my last game with them that was my last time ever really getting on i mean i was gone the next
day they most of them got red-shirted and were going
to be around another year. I did not. So they were just going to go right back into the off-season
and training. I was going to train for hopefully an NFL career. For me, I value my teammates and
our relationship so much that that last time getting on the field with them, I think, is a
pretty big deal. And that last time in a locker room after a win in that, that halftime when you're grinding, like for me,
that all meant too much to me for me to ever think about skipping.
But I also never had $10 million on the line with a potential injury sitting
there. So I hate it. I don't like it.
You and I are cut from the same cloth as far as that's concerned.
I mean, I, I think your era, my era, players
before that, I think you would
probably be universal. Everybody would
say the same things about
your boys, one last chance to go out.
These kids today,
I don't think
in most cases there's that
same kind of loyalty.
I think they're coming up and being raised
where they're hearing, the coaches don't
care about you, the system doesn't care
about you, you've got to
take care of you.
I think that's a shame, man.
I think that that is not
necessarily, and again,
Jeffrey Simmons
got hurt training to get
ready for the NFL draft.
If you're worried about getting hurt or an agent or a parent or, you know,
an uncle or somebody who's planting that seed, you know, you're going to get hurt.
My theory is why are you skipping the bowl game?
Like, why don't you sit out your entire year?
That's where I, I know I'm just not a fan of walking away from your team.
And I think there's, forget the monetary value,
there's value in the life experience of being able to be there
and finish off the year.
And as you said, I don't know how many years you've been out of WVU,
but whether it's 10, 15, 20 years later,
you look back and you still go back to the game
and you still see each other and still life memories. And I think kids today, it's all about
five years down the road. They don't look 20 years. They don't look 30 years. It's about all
about the money. And I'm not saying the money is not important, but it's all about the money.
And I think that's why sometimes they're not necessarily making the best decision.
Man, there's so much money out there to get.
I mean, adults make very interesting decisions whenever there's a lot of money on the line.
I couldn't even fathom teenage kids that are being swayed in front.
I mean, it's a very interesting situation.
We live in a whole new world than back in the day. You're
100% accurate with that. I got one last question
here before we wrap up. I can't thank you enough for your time.
Did you see
the video that the
Nebraska Cornhuskers put out
from Scott Frost? He is running
a military boot
camp with those boys.
I didn't see it yet.
I didn't see it. No.
It's like Bud's training. it's like bud's training dude he it's like bud's training they're on the edge of a lake or something like that i
don't know if nebraska has lakes or whatever they're upon they are on the edge of a lake
he's screaming at them they're doing push-ups in the water running through the water they're
taking boats out they're rowing the boat, which I'm assuming
Minnesota's not going to be
excited about. But that
Nebraska team, I think they're getting
ready for war this fall. It's something
to think about. Let me tell you something. Do you know
Scott Frost at all? No.
Not one bit, but I learned a lot in a
two-minute video. He's
like a
eco-challenge kind of like yeah there's a mountain right
over there i think i'm just gonna go over there and climb that dive off the top of it into a into
a lake like he's that guy yeah uh he he hiked across the entire grand canyon for fun you know
with a backpack you know it's like for extra weight to survive and be challenged. It's not surprising that he has his team out there doing something extreme,
kind of pushing the boundaries, so to speak.
He is nuts, man.
And he's probably in better shape than every player on his entire team.
I don't know.
He's probably 43, 44 years old, I'm guessing.
And he's,
he's probably in better shape than any of them.
That makes sense.
And honestly,
while I was watching it,
I got nostalgia for how we were treated at West Virginia with Mike Barwiss
and Rich Rodriguez,
to be honest,
the workouts were insane.
You guys have run that hill.
Oh,
summer.
Yeah.
The hill.
I mean,
the hill was just a nightmare.
I mean,
I think they got a couple
it was after I left
but a couple of my friends got called into rooms
and got interviewed by the NCAA
and I think the police about how many hours
we were working.
Our workouts were insane
but Rich Rodriguez, also
an insane human being, he
had the thought that we were going to be
mentally tougher,
physically tougher, faster, stronger than everybody
because we didn't have the most talent.
And it led to a lot of victories for us.
I was going to say, what years were you there?
What was your era?
Me, Steve, not me.
I don't know.
Oh, my God.
Were you on the team that beat Georgia?
Yeah, yeah, man.
Yeah, we won by three.
No big deal.
Dude, you won by three. No big deal. You guys
were dangerous. We had you
guys on Thursday night.
Mike Trenko and I used to do the Thursday night
game, and we had you guys a few times.
A lot of times it was against Miami.
You know, it was always like down in the Orange
Bowl. Those before me.
Those games were so hyped for Thursday
night. People forget, but those
West Virginia teams were dangerous.
Who was that running back?
You guys, besides Slate, somebody took a screen pass
and went like 70 yards down the sideline at the Orange Bowl.
The last name, I think, was Davis or Wilson.
Wilson.
I don't remember.
Quincy Wilson.
Quincy.
He played with Rasheed Marshall.
Yeah, that was before me. So Quincy, Rasheed Marshall. Yeah, that was before me.
So Quincy, Rasheed, that whole crew was right before me.
Pac-Man, Chris Henry, that whole group was right before me.
The Big East used to be no fucking joke, by the way.
The Louisville teams, we got a chance.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I was a part of the WVU team.
All-time leading scorer.
No big deal.
We won four straight bowl games.
I missed a couple kicks in a pretty big game.
We probably should have won national championship.
But that was when Rich went up to Michigan.
Yeah, went up to Michigan.
But watching that video, it literally felt like how we were being talked to
all summer, all winter in the workouts.
Oh yeah.
But dude,
you had to do that at WVU.
Oh yeah.
I mean,
didn't they have to do that militant approach to get you over the edge?
I mean,
that was the key.
Well,
we had,
so we knew Rich Rodriguez was not going to last at Michigan because the way
he treated us,
we did not have options.
So we,
we did not have, we, the players that are – we fell to West Virginia.
It wasn't like, oh, yeah, we got other scholarship offers.
We had numerous guys that got arrested and dropped –
all their scholarship offers were dropped except for West Virginia.
Were you last cast down with Division I?
Yes.
I look back at the thing now i think we had three
attempted murders like actual guys that have gone to jail for attempted murder on our team yeah yeah
but they were like my boys by the way those guys were uh very good but yeah our team we did not
have choices and options so when rich rodriguez would do what rich rodriguez does in full lunacy
it wasn't like we're gonna be like okay fuck you we're gonna go to ohio state like in michigan
those kids were like uh we're gonna go to penn state uh we're not gonna deal with this shit
anymore and we knew yeah but i think that is what made us good we all kind of rallied around spite
of hating rich rod and won a lot of games man man. All I know is whatever it was, it weren't. Those teams were filthy.
And I don't want to bring up this bad memory.
Were you there in 07?
Oh, yeah.
Pitt.
Oh, you son of a bitch.
I can't believe that.
I still wanted you guys.
I got 27 death threats after that game, Kirk.
Thanks for bringing it up.
I couldn't go to class.
I couldn't go to class.
Oh, really? Yeah for bringing it up. I couldn't go to class. I couldn't go to class. Oh, really?
Yeah.
Really?
Damn.
You guys were favored by like three or four touchdowns, right?
Yeah, we were.
Thanks.
We scored nine points.
We actually scored seven until they took a safety in like the last minute on purpose.
I mean, it was a rough game.
There's a lot of conspiracy theories out there that Rich Rod didn't want to win that game
because you win a national championship, you can't leave. Yeah, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there that Rich Rod didn't want to win that game because you win a national championship, you can't leave.
Yeah, there's a lot of conspiracy theories.
I don't know what happened.
You guys win that game, you play Ohio State in the national championship down in New Orleans,
right?
Yeah, and we probably win by 42.
Who would think if that happened?
You and I have a great memory from that.
Yeah, we would.
And so it's a terrible one. What year was have a great memory from that. Yeah, yeah. We would have.
And so it's a terrible one. What year was that for you?
Junior.
Junior year, okay.
Yeah, it was my junior year.
It was a nightmare.
Kirk, thanks for bringing it up.
This conversation's over.
Well, you had a hell of a career.
You were part of the greatest West Virginia team they ever had.
Major Harris had some good teams, but that was probably the best era that they've had.
They couldn't touch us.
And then when Holgerson came in, they tried to erase all the memories of our team,
even though we built the facility for them, basically.
I mean, there's a lot of beef between, not me, I don't really give a fuck,
but there's a lot of beef between my era of teams that basically, in our eyes,
and it might be right or might be wrong but we put them on a
national map yeah thursday those thursday night games were actually the most watched games and
we like we had actual stats that were like uh we were like two of the top five watched college
football games of the year was our thursday night games and then we build like another 20 000 or 15
000 seats into the stadium rebuilt the entire facility basically,
and then we leave and then they basically just try to erase Pat White and Steve Slayton from the history of WVU.
Yeah, yeah.
It was a very interesting – it's been a very interesting situation over there.
Last thing, because you're going to go here,
but a memo to any new coach at a new school,
the last thing you want to do is erase any kind of legacy memories for that program.
You have to reach out, obviously, and embrace that era.
And going back to Don Nailing and all the, any great players and great eras, you should always reach back and make it part of it.
There have been a lot of coaches that have done that for some reason.
It's like it's his era, it's his time, and it's like, man,
you're not getting the alumni behind the program.
Hopefully the new coach will see that he needs to do that
because there's so many great teams from West Virginia.
Like I said, in that era, they should be celebrating.
Brand new facilities.
I'm on your side here.
That Neil Brown guy followed me on Twitter,
so he's making one little step for man, I guess.
Love it.
We'll see what happens.
I'm so thankful for you joining us.
You're a superstar, legit.
I can't wait to watch you this fall.
Congrats on all your success.
I wish you would have gotten in the NFL because I'm an NFL guy.
I would have loved to hear your voice in there.
But the college football world is lucky to have you.
Ladies and gentlemen, big brain, ex-Ohio State quarterback,
dad of two Clemson Tigers, Kirk Herbstreit.
Thank you, man.
Give him a hand.
You got it, buddy.
Hey, you there?
Yeah.
Who do you hate?
I was going to put you in that fucking,
you should have seen whenever you're like,
you know, there's some guys you get on TV with
and you have to force it.
I almost stood up in my chair.
I was like, oh my God, Kirk Herbstreit.
Who does he hate?
You don't have to tell me.
Oh, I'll call you on that one.
I'll tell you.
I appreciate you, man.
I'll tell you.
There's been a few.
I appreciate you so much have a good one all right
you got it good talking to you guys see ya i love that guy he's the best i can't wait for
college game b2 i love that show wait it's like the only five hour show that i'll sit through the
entire thing he's like the king right he just runs it he's so smooth too he said he would never take
credit for running it right he says it's a team and that's why he is the guy.
I like that. Yeah, because he's a good dude.
Ladies and gentlemen, thanks Kirk Herbstreit
if you could tweet him. And also he likes talking shit
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I love that. I love everything about
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so the sbs were last night and there was a moment where i was potentially gonna have to accept
the sb for the indianapolis colts me and my friend Trip Hale, dumb dumb of the year, very nice kid from
Alabama. He has a nice family
now in Vegas, a nice gym,
hilarious human being. He and I were there.
It was when Drake hosted and I didn't even know
we were up for an award and all of a sudden this award
comes up and Drake announces it or somebody comes
out and talks about it and this camera crew comes
sprinting up to put, like it was like we're
in a college football awards where the camera crew
comes sprinting up to you and I had no idea what it was i literally look over a trip i'm like what
the fuck is going on and i look at the camera i'm like oh the colts are up for no am i the only
cold here there's no way there's no way that that but for a moment in my head i was like
greatest espy speech of all time is coming right up greatest espy speech of all time is coming
somebody else won obviously the camera left so i guess they had to just do the fake show thing but
i thought i was going to accept an espy for the indianapolis colts it would have been awesome
would have been fantastic incredible haven't been invited back since
award shows suck yeah they are fucking terrible now granted i'm sure there's some people that
absolutely love them the everything about them there's some great performances i agree but boy watching at home is so much better
because you a you can change the channel bingo you can go to the bathroom you don't have to be
dressed like a buffoon yeah you don't have to be dressed like a buffoon out there you don't have
to sweat your dick off and you don't have to be cramped into these seats that are smaller than
airplane seats these theaters are not built for people of any size.
They're built for – it's terrible.
I've been to two award shows, nominated twice, once for an ESPY with Colts, obviously,
and one for the College Football Awards with Ray Guy.
And I hate Ray Guy because of his decision.
I think it was a bad one.
It wasted a lot of time of mine.
Shouldn't have even been down there.
Yeah, you have a camera two inches from your face when the wrong person wins.
Yeah, they really do have a camera two inches from your face when the wrong person wins. Yeah.
They really do have a camera right in my face. My mom's sitting right next
to me. My dad's sitting
right next to her. And I was supposed
to win. They didn't pick the right three people
to be the finalist for this
particular award.
We weren't the right three. But out
of the three, I was by far the best.
It wasn't even a close. It wasn't even close. close the night before we're having a beer with like ray guy and ray guy starts the conversation
talking to the kid that won like he was best friends with his coach he was like oh i talked
to uh last night you know he's an old college roommate of mine i was like oh this is over
exactly in the way he does ray guy like the way he set up
the award he was like this guy showed incredible consistency a massive like he all the everything
he was saying i was like oh i did fucking win good for me man this kid that won didn't even
pun enough to register as an actual stat in the like in the stats he only had like 24 punts all
year i had like 20 i had like 20 some 50 yard punts in the season so it
was like there was it was a bad scene so ray got i hated ray guy for a long time i mean on right
i've buried that beef deep down inside i buried it good for you i mean it's still there good for
ray good for ray because he he's in the hall of fame he's done a lot for punters sure so i've
tried to bury it as low as I can. But he knows.
Like, he knows that he fucked that one up,
especially whenever that kid,
I think he's probably digging ditches now.
I was getting texts from people at home saying congratulations
as he was reading the stats and the description of the one that won.
This guy's incredible.
Everybody's like, oh, he won.
Congratulations.
They announced the winner, though,
and you're supposed to just clap,
because if you don't clap, you're a poor sport. Yeah, you look like a sport like a dick but i'm like yo you just wasted my fucking time i could be in
morgantown right now i mean penny pitchers was tonight and i'm down here in espn hobnobbing
with these humans that i hate this is a nightmare do you think your name was on that paper though
but like they just it was like a last minute like someone fucked up so there's a panel that
picks the finalist and then ray guy picks the winner. So they actually told us how the whole thing went.
Because in my head,
the camera guys right in front of you,
they know who's supposed to win,
you know, essentially.
No, well, that's for just like the SPC.
Yeah, when they introduce the nominees too.
Yeah, they have it on everybody's face.
Like for instance,
just in case my mom goes,
oh, fucking bullshit.
Like they want to be able to have that reaction.
So as soon as that happens,
it was early in the night.
It was early in the night whenever that award was up uh the ray guy award so now we have to sit through
all these other fucking awards we gotta sit through he's a friend of mine now but the tim
tebow spectacle at that award show was next level biden won or not biden bowden when bobby bowden
went up there and gave a speech for like four hours. Horrible. It never ended. We were just sitting there and we weren't
allowed to leave. So I'm pissed
off that I didn't win and I was even there.
We all wasted our time flying out.
Couldn't go to Disney World because it rained so hard.
So there was literally no upside
to being at this award show. None.
And we had to sit there for another hour and a half just watching these humans
like, I'm the greatest human
on earth.
I'm like, yeah, great for you, man. I'd like to get the greatest human on earth i i'm like yeah you're great for you man i'd like to get
the fuck out of here uh shout out to all the winners though at the sbs good for you guys awards
really matter oh yeah oh yeah those things go a long way they can't win an award especially an
sp yeah aq won award the night before so his didn't even get announced on that stage his one the night
before and we went out and celebrated his victory that was whenever he and i's friendship really kicked off and the guests from earlier today kirk herb street that is where
we met at that award show at a bar the night before in beautiful orlando nice yeah we walked
in walked in this bar we were at margaritaville down there in orlando i think there's like a
string of bars down there in orlando i think right zito yeah there's a margaritaville down there yes
so me and aq were down there margaritaville and we bounced over to another
we're the only people that went out so we found that out whenever we got back and there was
somebody that was checking names because they had to make sure we were all in might have been
the reason i lost as well by the way something to think about me and aq were the last two stumbling
into the fucking hotel but we go into a bar that was like as it was kind of shutting down
and we walk in and kirk herb street's in court i'm like oh fuck her curb street's here and aq's
like oh i know him because big 10 stuff it goes up there and chats with him nicest guy of all time
still is obviously to this day great interview earlier but award show i've really had a nice
what's that word of of of affliction is that like like oh an affinity affinity i really have had an affinity
for award shows for a long time i mean my senior year of high school they made me go to the uh the
award show for the seniors and i was up for male athlete of the year i mean i only had scholarship
offers in like three different sports and uh we met the winner right yeah yeah another kid won
i got one scholarship and i was like why did you guys even have me come here?
Like,
why do I get invited to these things?
Like,
don't,
don't bring me up here.
Cause I'm just going to hate you forever,
which I do,
by the way,
I hate our high school forever.
I mean,
that kid was wet from three.
Oh yeah.
It was great.
I probably would have been too.
If I played that fucking,
I guess now that I know me a little bit with basketball,
it's just,
it never ends.
These award shows are just one big disappointment for me.
I think that's why I hate them,
but I'll watch the shit out of them on TV.
Let's be honest, that speech, though,
would be absolutely epic, though.
When I finally win something?
Oh, when I finally win an award at an award show,
I got some things saved up from that
Male Athlete of the Year thing my senior year of high school.
So you're basically going to do every single award show
you're supposed to win?
Congrats to me, Male Athlete of the Year 2005, Plum High School.
I didn't get the award technically, but I deserved it.
Everybody knows it.
All right?
Also, congrats to me, Ray Guy winner 2008.
Fucking shout out me having big balls.
Ray got me.
And for this particular thing, yeah, I would go on the whole thing.
What was the other award in high school that you didn't get that you should have got?
Oh, yeah.
Fucking Valley News Dispatch Player of the Year.
Yeah.
I led the state
in goals and assists basically
and one of my teammates
won the fucking
Player of the Year.
It's unbelievable.
It never ever ends.
They asked me to come up
for a photo shoot.
They asked me to come up
for a photo shoot.
Didn't tell me
and I had to stand
on a brick wall.
They take a picture of me
and then my teammates
out there juggling
a soccer ball in the field.
They got like four camera people shooting them.
I'm like, what happened?
They're like, he's player of the year.
I'm like, are you kidding me?
I mean, good for him.
Great for him.
But I mean, do we just not read any stats?
What?
Fuck.
I'll never forget the Valley News dispatch player of the year.
I hate them too.
I hope that.
Did that paper go out of business?
There's a good chance.
I mean, I don't know.
Well, they made terrible decisions.
I know that.
Yeah, Angelo, Master Giacomo, good friend of mine,
one player of the year, still brings it up to this day.
Still brings it up to this day.
When we were in D.C.
Yeah, he brought it up.
While we were in D.C., he was like, what was that new?
I was like, oh, yeah.
You don't remember.
He's a great, great soccer player.
But I just so happen to have one of the greatest high school soccer years in history.
And I fucking got a picture next to a brick wall as if it's a mug shot.
His smirk he gave you.
He knew it too.
Because they asked him to come for the photo shoot and me to come.
I don't think he knew until he got there.
And then when it happened, he's like, oh, this is perfect.
This is fucking perfect.
It never ends.
It never ends with these people.
But congrats to all the winners
of the ESPYs last night.
I'm very happy and proud of you.
It means the world, honestly.
Get the fuck out of here.
Ladies and gentlemen,
joining us right now
is a legendary man.
He fornicated with my mother nine months before may 2nd 1987 created me shout out to him for that and to my mom by the way she played a
pretty big role in that whole thing this guy is now full-time running the foundation, Pat McAfee Foundation, and it is time to hand out
some scholarships to
well-deserved participants
in an essay
contest. These are all children
and military families that we will be handing out
comfort scholarships to. Dad,
quickly, for the people that don't know about the Pat McAfee
Foundation, we've been in existence
since February of 2012.
We became a 501c3.
Good for us, by the way, in February.
Hey, good for us.
A lot of paperwork Tim McAfee had to fill out there.
There was, there was.
We wanted to work with the military.
Very much wanted to work with the military,
but we didn't know our particular lane.
And we decided to go with the children of military families
because we thought you take care of the kids,
they'll take care of the kids they'll take
care of the parents in the future furthering their education taking a little pressure off of the
the mom or dad who served in uh the military and it's been a very fun venture for us i mean it's
been an absolute blast it's been a great seven years uh we've given away thus far four hundred
and thirty three thousand dollars i mean we're really doing it. You know, it's pretty cool.
By the way, I was up for the Salute to Service Award one time.
Didn't get it.
I lost it.
But it's not about, honestly, that award I thought was the biggest joke of all time.
Like any of the philanthropy awards, it's like, okay, kind of take it away from why we're doing this whole thing because for us it's been very cool to kind of watch these kids kind of go
to school and grow now because we've been doing it for so long we have a pharma a pharmacist yep
she graduated from pharmacy school that we she won our award like four straight years five straight
years scholarship and she's now a pharmacist and she's a badass her dad was a
um uh airborne airborne guy oh yeah paratrooper guy badass of a dude yeah so the way they apply
for these scholarships is they have to write an essay about uh their appreciation for their
parents military service so they can get emotional and some of them some of them i mean some of them
mail them in i mean some of them are not great.
Some are bad.
But they don't win.
This is a very highly competitive scholarship that we give out yearly.
And this year, we're giving out 10 scholarships with a total of?
$61,000.
Jesus Christ.
There we go.
Okay, good for you, Tim.
I mean, that's really good work you've been putting in behind the scenes here.
I appreciate the hell out of you.
Nothing to sneeze at.
These are real numbers.
These are life-changing numbers for people.
Yeah, I do the phone call to tell them each year.
And it's kind of weird being an adult having to call these high school kids' parents' house.
Hi, is...
Especially coming from Palumbo.
Easy.
That's an inside joke uh terrible things but
terrible things but you call them and you're like uh hi is johnny there and they're like who's this
i'm like this is pat mcafee like uh fuck you because these are military families you remember
these are blue collar families i gotta call them back. Like, no, no, your kid won. Oh, we didn't even know he really applied.
And then you go to the conversation and the kid's so happy.
Then the parents are so appreciative.
And it's just like, it's such a cool moment for me every single year.
That's really cool.
Getting to announce them on the podcast here.
I'm really pumped up about it.
Dad, why don't you go ahead and list the 10 award winners this year?
We have a first place winner who I'm looking at scores here.
I don't want to say she did better than everybody else by a lot,
but it sure seems like she did better than everybody else.
And then there's like two through.
The rest of them are kind of tightly bunched,
but the winner was very deserved.
And so the, what is that?
The six?
Yeah, six are winning five grand each.
Then three are winning 7,000.
And then the winner's getting 10 grand.
That's correct.
Wow.
That's awesome.
All right, why don't you read through them without further ado.
How many people applied?
33.
Okay, let's go.
Lucky 33.
Down to 10.
The 10 winners are, in 10th place.
Chris Oakley.
I think his name is Curtis.
Oh, I'm sorry curtis oakley
there's a chris oakley out there shout out hey chris sorry chris oakley next year man
next year and i would like people know just like we're talking about that pharmacist you can win
multiple years in a row and we have had a lot of people do that yes it's a very very cool thing to
kind of watch them grow in ninth place don. Donald Scott. Congrats, Donald Scott.
In eighth place.
Madeline Perry.
Congrats, Madeline, getting a big win there.
In seventh place.
Abigail McGee.
Good Irish girl.
Congrats.
In sixth place.
Isaac Hunter.
Great name.
That's a strong, strong name.
That's a great name.
Oh, yeah.
Hey, good for Isaac Hunter there.
I mean, he didn't win, but I mean, he did.
He did.
But he didn't win it.
You get it.
Yeah.
In fifth place.
Jacoby Clark.
Great name.
Congratulations, Jacoby.
Very thankful for you entering.
Now the top four.
These next three will win $7,000 apiece.
In fourth place.
Zoe Rainey.
Okay, Zoe.
Still Zoe. In third place. Coll roberts okay colleen in second
place julia mann congrats julia and ladies and gentlemen your 2019 first place scholarship
award winner from the pat mcafee a $10,000 comfort scholarship goes to Emma Norris.
Hey, Emma.
There you go.
In the house, y'all.
Congrats to all the award winners.
Go to tpmf.us.
Or the patmcfeefoundation.org.
If you would like to enter for next year, we do this every single year.
I think it's a really cool thing. I'm lucky my dad is really taking the reins on this thing.
It's fulfillment. It's taking care of people. It's taking care of the right people.
And it's really fucking cool. Good work, dad. Good work, Emma. And good work to the other nine
finalists. Recipients. Recipients. Good word, Banker and Ty. Hey, that's good
word, Ty. Thank you.
Congrats to the other nine recipients and to our champion,
Emma Norris. The world
is yours. So now whenever you
go to further your
education, you go ahead and
dominate this thing so you can take care of your
parents who took care of us.
And that's what it's all about.
Hey, Tim, great work, bud.
Thank you.
I mean, we got off to a rocky start there with Chris Oakley. Well, Chris Oakley.
Sorry, Curtis.
Curtis, big winner.
We'll say Chris Oakley shirt.
Just some random Chris Oakley.
Congrats to some random Chris Oakley
who just won some free merch.
So thankful for this.
Told you guys we were hot today.
We're changing the world.
What other podcast goes from Kirk Herbstreet
straight to an incredible ad read from Zito
to a scholarship award of $61,000.
That's what I'm saying.
Straight into Pangea.
Come on.
Have we talked about Pangea yet, Ty?
I don't know.
We'll find out.
This bitch don't know about Pangea.
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Ladies and gentlemen the greatest conversation we've ever had
I have two weddings next month
I'm trying to lose some weight
Might just cut a lot I'm trying to lose some weight. Yeah. Might just cut all out.
Yeah, that's not the way to do it.
I'm not giving you a lot of hope.
There's some good-looking ladies going to be there,
so I got to put in an eighth gear.
Or maybe first gear to start off.
I mean, maybe we just kind of roll.
We get a rolling start.
You know whenever your battery dies,
but you have a stick,
and you kind of got to roll it into gear?
I've been there.
I think that's kind of what you are right now.
You're just a guy without a battery.
You got zero charge.
I finally got a battery.
Now you got a battery at these weddings.
A roly-poly type.
Oh, come on.
Hey, you didn't deserve that.
I mean.
Husky circle.
Just call me Charles Barkley while you're at it.
So Z, like today.
I'm on the pound today You FaceTime me
And say you want dinner
Do you want to get pizza
Say you're housing a whole pizza
Do I need to tell you no here
Like this is an actual question
Is this
Do we need to be friends
Right
Do we need to be real friends
Or
Cause every once in a while
I'll get a tweet that's like
Why do you make fun of Zito so much
It's like
We don't
We don't
We try our best to support
him. It's just physically impossible at some
points. So are we supposed to? That is a
real thing, because people do tell me to stop bullying
you. It's not for me. It's mostly
Nick. Yeah, maybe Nicky
Coulton, but everyone else.
I do need
constructive criticism. Oh, I can do
that. Is that the right word?
Diggs went home, had to go home earlier.
He brought that word, accountability buddies.
Is that what you're looking for out of us?
Is like accountability buddies?
I think so.
That's what I need, I think.
You need accountability buddies.
So is Foxy supposed to be your accountability buddy here?
Yeah, he let me down earlier.
Oh.
I didn't know you had two weddings before.
No, yeah.
I want you to
look good at those weddings i'm gonna use that jacket probably from the thing for sure the tour
oh the bright one yeah i don't know if you're fitting that bro i right now it was tight on tour
i know and you you yeah that was that was before you made me cook you a cheeseburger today yeah
not wrong with that keto by the way way. That's keto. I ate the bread, though.
Whole loaf. I could have said no.
Whole loaf?
There's no reason for that.
I did it, though.
I did this.
In our defense, you did say, yeah, I'm trying to lose weight.
That's like an active thing you just said.
Like it's happening in the present.
And we just watched what you ate today.
So, yes.
Like my saying was.
So I don't know if it's matching up.
My saying is diet starts never.
Yeah, it is.
But I think I have to change that today.
To diet starts.
Never but today it starts.
So it's starting today?
Okay.
Like when this podcast comes out?
Oh, when the podcast comes out, yes.
So this is starting on Thursday.
My goal is to lose 60 pounds.
July 11th.
Your goal is to lose 60 pounds?
I do not want that Zito back.
No, Ty.
We do not want that.
I do not want that Zito back.
First wedding is going to be
the 11th.
So one month.
Exactly one month.
Exactly.
Tomorrow.
We do not need
Matt Zito back, though. Please do not need Meth-Zito back.
Please do not give
Meth-Zito back.
Let me start with like 10.
I think what I'm going
to do this time though,
I'm going to drain blood out
and then blood dope.
I think I'm going to
try to blood dope
so I don't lose like,
that's like the only way
I think,
so I don't become
Meth-Zito.
So I'll just have
bags of blood
in one of the fridges.
Oh man.
Come on bro.
We got this new fridge.
You put the fucking garlic in there.
No, it was not me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We have a side fridge, though.
I'll use the side fridge.
So one month, let's put a realistic and like a potential happy Zito for the next month.
Because honestly, I mean, it was great content, that weight loss challenge.
But boy, it was tough. It was tough every day. By the way, terrible for you guys, too. I understand it was great content, that weight loss challenge. But boy, it was tough.
It was tough every day.
By the way, terrible for you guys, too.
I understand it was terrible for you guys.
But it was also bad for us to have to deal with you.
Terrible to be around.
But you guys were literally sacrificing your entire bodies and soul.
You almost shut down your kidney.
I'm sure I was not a good time.
I mean, you toughed it out on the microphones,
but boy, watching you guys just kill yourselves there,
I do not want to ever do that again.
So I do not want this wedding season diet
that you're about to go into.
Well, I've had two physicians tell me
that it was a bad idea to do it that way,
but I just don't know, though.
I feel like that's the only way
that I could look good for like two days,
and then it just comes right back every time.
I can't judge you though
because I crash diet hard for any time I'm on TV.
Speaking of extreme rules on Sunday,
I'm currently in the middle of a smoothie fast
to find a jawline.
So I can't judge you too much.
I lost a jawline like five years ago.
Is it healthy to like two days a month water fast
like for two days in a row?
Just water fast.
Hold on.
That's on the internet.
Does that help?
That shows up on the internet all the time.
The water fast, I guess, is a real thing.
I think it's good for you, right?
It kind of resets everything.
Guys, anything in moderation is fine.
Yeah, because I think two days water fast, I think I could do that.
I did that for like six days.
That was miserable, but I remember the first two days weren't that bad.
Yeah, but your mindset was you're going win 10 grand nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine
dollars sorry so it's the i anytime i do these fucking crash diets to find a jawline for tv
those the first day is so fucking hard because it feels as if the people around me not just you guys
but sam included order the best food of all time and And it's like, okay, this is just a test.
Like you just, this is just a test.
But then when you lay down in bed at night and everybody else is asleep and it's just
you and your taste buds, it is very difficult to go to bed whenever you just, there's a
Cinnabon right out there in the fucking kitchen.
So it's always a struggle.
So I think the two day water thing would be very difficult
for me i'm not sure i'd be able to well i guess if you chug a shit ton of water though you feel
full especially if you're chugging those like smart waters that are like the liter bottles
you do two of those i mean that's like you feel like you ate a meal what was that thing i chugged
at the uh the place in columbus oh the fucking chalice was a gallon right it was oh it was a
gallon of carafe that was a gallon jug that's the most impressive thing i've ever seen thank you i put her down i mean i put it on video
it didn't look as impressive because i don't think you could get the depth of the bottle
so it was a glass bottle so you couldn't get the complete depth of it but that made me feel sick
for sure so maybe that is the way to do it just think about doing it like the next time we know
we have a vacation coming up or something like the the two days before, just do it and see what it does.
I'm thinking you can lose eight pounds.
Which is a lot of pounds.
Yeah.
A lot of pounds, by the way.
A lot of pounds.
That's not bad at all.
That's a noticeable difference.
Okay, so what are we really going for, for this one move?
I think, to spin the jacket, 28 pounds.
You need to lose 28 pounds?
How about 20?
What about 15?
15 is the last thing.
What about 10?
What about five?
Let's just start with five pounds.
I'm an overachiever, though.
Yeah, you are.
Yeah, you are.
If you lose 15 and get down to like 330, you'll be fine.
330 would be nice.
I tried to do the math in my head. What 15 with that would be, and I couldn't do it. Oh would be nice. I tried to do the math in my head.
What 15 with that would be, and I couldn't do it.
Oh, my God.
Hey, Ty, Nick, and Todd, by the way, I don't want any tweets.
I don't want any tweets about anything that just happened.
I'm sorry, Z.
Hey, that's the criticism I need.
You count a bill of buddies.
You count a bill of buddies.
So wedding season, Z is going to try to lose 15 pounds.
Do you get a plus one?
Yeah. Who are you trying to go? Not try to lose 15 pounds. Do you get a plus one? Yeah.
Who are you trying to go?
Not me.
I'm looking out for you, buddy.
Who you got?
Got a little something lined up?
Well, he said there's a couple good-looking girls at the wedding.
You fish there.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, you don't go there with someone.
You don't bring sand to the beach.
Yeah, you bring the water to the beach.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What was that?
Like thirst.
The thirst.
You wouldn't bring water, right?
Thirst and water are actually kind of opposite of things.
Well, the water bottle.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You bring the hose.
Oh, yeah.
Atta boy.
Maybe you take Foxy with you.
Hey, you clean up too much.
True.
Good call.
I got to bring someone uglier than myself.
Yeah, I was going to say, you think I'll watch Foxy get laid.
How about this?
Can we have a listener go with you to one of these weddings?
Yeah.
Okay, so you apply to go to a wedding with Zito.
Hashtag wedding, S-Z-N-Z-E-E-T.
And then hashtag PMS2.
Use those two hashtags.
Take a picture of yourself
so we know what we're getting into.
Right, Zito?
Yes, yeah. You take a picture of yourself, take a picture of yourself so we know what we're getting into. Right, Zito? Yes.
You take a picture of yourself,
take a picture of the suit
that you would like to wear.
You don't have to own it yet,
just on the internet.
And then there will be a selection process
to go to the wedding with Zito
one month from today, August 11th.
What a fucking great thing this is.
And you also must be following
a subscriber of the Twitch stream.
Twitch.tv forward slash The Pat Mackey Show.
Okay, so I assume this is going to be electric content.
This is probably something you'd want to do.
I cannot wait for this.
Where's the wedding?
In Chicago?
Yep.
It's a rich wedding, too.
It's a rich wedding.
Of course it is.
So this person gets a free trip to Chicago.
Yeah, of course it is.
This is the Perez family, probably.
It's probably somebody in the Perez family. So they get a free trip to Chicago. They get of course it is. You know, this is the Perez family, probably. It's probably somebody in the Perez family.
So they get a free trip to Chicago.
They get to go to a wedding with Zito.
Yeah, it's a good time.
Zito, you know what you're signing up for.
This is a lot of time with this person.
I just go to the dance floor, hang out there,
away from him or her.
Yeah, but when are you going to fly him?
Are we going to fly him in or drive him out?
No, they handle it themselves.
They handle that themselves?
Right.
But do they come day of wedding
so you don't have to deal with them
like the night before?
Maybe night before.
No, because it's a Sunday, so.
Sunday wedding?
Sunday wedding.
Really?
Yeah.
No, maybe it's Saturday
going to Sunday.
That's what it is.
I would assume you got no shot
with any of these women
if it's a Sunday wedding.
They got work on Monday.
It's a big sorority girl one.
So it's like.
Oh.
Zeet.
Zeet. The 11th is a Sunday, Zeet. Yeah. one. So it's like... Oh. Zeet. Zeet.
The 11th is a Sunday, Zeet.
Yeah.
So I think it's the 10th
going to 11.
But it's going to be
in that time period.
It's for sure that weekend.
It's the 9th, 10th,
and 11th weekend.
Yeah.
And you're going to lose
15 pounds for this?
20.
Okay.
I think it's feasible
because you lost 43
the first time.
Think about it.
We lost 11 the first weigh-in, I believe.
13 pounds.
Yeah.
And that was just not eating at all.
But let's remember, I speak for the crew here.
We do not want to deal with that.
We do not want to deal with starved zeet.
I think it'll be okay.
You cut out the morning burrito at 9 a.m.
You cut out the midnight Taco Bell run,
and I think you're shaving 10 that first week.
Mid-dinner pizza.
This is a mid-dinner.
This is not final dinner.
This is mid-dinner.
It is 8 p.m. right now.
This is not dinner yet.
You know, we should make him a shirt to wear this entire time frame
because in boot camp, we have diet privates, they call them.
So you come in overweight, you are in half rations the entire time you're there
until you hit weight.
So you have two red bars.
You have your name on the front,
and then you have two red bars,
one on top, one on bottom.
So when you go through the chow line,
they know you only get half of what everybody else gets.
Hilarious.
They don't do that anymore, I bet.
There's no way.
There's no way in the military.
So like in West Virginia,
we did something called tour duty,
and it was our winter conditioning,
and it was fucking terrible.
It was these stations. And if you weren giving a hundred percent in the coach's eyes
They would give you a check and if you got a check checks were given if you didn't look like you were sprinting, right?
If you didn't look as if you were giving your absolute most
You would get a check and then the check was like, uh, I think it was a 300 yard shuttle or
Some shuttle afterwards and you had to make a certain time if you didn't make time you had to make time again Like so each check was it was terrible. It was a 300-yard shuttle or some shuttle afterwards. And you had to make a certain time. If you didn't make time, you had to make time again.
So each check was terrible.
It was a fucking terrible thing.
People didn't sleep the night before.
It was a mind fuckery.
But if you got a certain amount of checks,
you had to wear an orange shirt the next tour of duty.
And you had to go in front of the line so you got the extra reps
because each station was a certain amount of time.
So if you're in the orange shirt, you got to go first because the line goes through. So you have you got the extra reps because each station was a certain amount of time so if you're in the orange shirt you got to go first because the line goes through
so you have to get the extra rep so if that first one you do bad you're miserable the entire time
and they were called an orange goon i think the orange goons i believe is what he called him like
hey the orange goonies get up in the front you know the deal fucking reed williams my guy reed
williams is my roommate basically all through college.
He showed up the first year not good, not good shape.
He had an orange, and he had orange hair, right?
Yeah, also a ginger.
I mean.
It's glorious.
It's delicious red, please.
But he did have orange hair and these orange things.
He had like 20 some checks.
I think they were trying to make him quit early because he was just living a good life down there.
He went on to be an All-American, obviously,
but I'll never forget walking out of those things
when I did, because I was coming first on soccer.
So I was in pretty good shape.
And I mastered the fake.
Ha! Ha!
Yeah, you just got to be good at faking the effort.
I'm running so hard right now.
Not moving my legs at all.
Just the upper body and walking out of there just feeling so bad for the guy.
Like, man, you just had an hour and a half of misery.
That's what that shirt would be for Zito all day, basically.
That's what that would be.
My name would be on the inside of that shirt for sure.
What's that?
Because you have to get it.
You deserve that shirt, right?
Or do they take that shirt away, the orange shirt?
The orange shirt, you get it each day.
It just shows up in your laundry. So, yeah, my name would be on that shirt right or did they take that shirt away the orange shirt the orange the orange shirt you get it each day it just shows shows up in your laundry like yeah that my name would be on that
bro i'll never forget when fucking i think reed saw it the first time we got our laundry
and he just looked at it and he like asked the organ like what's this mean he's like
you're about to have a terrible
you are about to have a terrible morning oh Oh, and then you've got to go to class, by the way.
And then we got practice after that.
And then you got this.
And then you got study.
And he actually took school serious.
He's got like four degrees.
So I got none.
And I got to go in the back of the line.
I had a great time.
And I didn't hit anybody.
I mean, it was good.
I had a pretty good little run.
But I think this next month for you is going to be delicious 15 pounds then 15 pounds all right there you go wedding seasons eat hashtag
are you sure you want to do this with the people because somebody i gotta choose right yeah okay
yeah no six packs if you're gonna apply don't have a six pack what if it's a babe oh yeah yeah
well we're taking well a good wingmanman could be a lady. Good point.
Oh.
Oh.
Not a bad call there.
A wingperson.
So you refuse to take... You refuse to take...
Yeah, it is a wingperson.
Good call, Tom.
That's on me.
That was incredibly sexist of you.
I know.
2019.
Yeah.
I mean, they can...
It's like Zito's got a checkmark.
Oh, geez.
Oh.
Check.
All right.
Got a fucking gasser at the end of the show.
You wouldn't take Foxy because he's too attractive.
Yes.
He would cockblock the fuck out of you.
Yeah.
He would be a bastard.
As if there's only one girl there.
That is true.
As if there's only one girl.
That's true because she's going to have a friend.
Yes.
Exactly.
Oh, so you're saying. So that could
work out. I'm thinking you throw Foxy out there
as bait. I think, forget Foxy. Let's
rule out Foxy. Let's say it is a listener.
I don't think you should rule out a potential
like six pack
listener because that's just
that's good bait for you, I think.
You know what I mean? Okay, so
okay, I get what you're saying. So he's going to
wheel in the hotter chicks and that chick's going to have a friend, right? That's what you're saying. So he's going to wheel in the hotter chicks,
and that chick's going to have a friend, right?
That's what you're saying?
Now we're talking.
That's what a wing person does, by the way.
That is exactly what a wing person is.
Yeah.
All right.
If you have a six pack, you can apply.
Can Foxy apply?
Yeah.
Will he win?
I don't know.
Do you subscribe to the Twitch?
He does, actually.
I do.
I pay every month.
So, listeners, you need to know that Foxy is going to be trying to win this for the
next month.
Foxy is going to be trying to win this invite as well.
So, you want this, you're going to really have to get this.
We're going to get Zeke down to 315, first and foremost.
And then I'm going to go out there and I'm going to say, hey, this is my man, Zeke.
You guys should talk to him.
Lure him all in for you, Zeke.
And then Zeke's going to go to the dance floor.
You know, quick feet, Zeke. When O- when old town road or country roads no awning safe there oh no awnings it's
over by the way go ahead incredible nomination last night i know i thought i was gonna win
you didn't get the invite so okay that's kind of the first clue that was a fan favorite for sure
yeah you were if views no I'm sure that Roman Reigns one.
Yeah.
I think it only got like probably 40, 50 million views.
Yeah, I don't know if you even were the fan favorite.
I think that's who won was the fan favorite.
I was the underdog for sure.
Steep underdog, I'd say.
Yeah.
Hey, gambling's legal in Indiana, huh?
Like sports books are going to be popping off January 1st, right?
Yeah.
No, I think it's during football season. Oh football oh really i think they're launching football season yeah
because i thought it was uh going into effect here in july they were going to start yeah
that's what i thought bro we gotta watch out for dicks bro
every night the sports he's gonna be an accountability buddy for sure
i am serious i don't know how he's doing right now on Bro Bro Bro Bets. Are you guys on a hot heater or not?
I think we're winning, but barely.
Gumpy was on a streak, right?
Gumpy has great stats.
He has great stats.
He bets like soccer and shit, right?
He bets all the European stuff.
He's from Canada.
Yeah.
Why is he so European?
I don't get it either.
Is all of Canada like that?
I don't think so.
He told me no. He told
me like we're on where he lives. It's
like people from here. He's a
trendsetter, he said. Because when we were on Sirius,
it felt like Canada was just all middle of
America. Like all the colors we got was just
like everybody. Well, he's like West Coast, right?
So you gotta imagine the West Coast of Canada is
probably much different than the middle.
And he lives on an island. He said the people where he lives
does live on an island. Because I was like, does everybody dress like this?
And he's like, no, just me, bro.
I'm a fashionista, he said.
He did say fashionista.
Exact words.
I was like, isto, I think.
I don't want to gender assign you, but I think it's isto.
I'm not certain.
I use babble, but I think it's o instead of a.
You know a place that I liked a lot?
Ankeny, Iowa.
Yeah.
Really?
Oh. Go ahead. Really? Oh.
Go ahead.
Why?
Sorry.
Why did you?
What happens there?
One thing I've learned about Todd
is he doesn't like any part of Iowa
except for Waterloo.
Hold on.
Because I texted Pat Anger.
I said, yo, I'm in Iowa.
And his text back was,
where are you?
Why are you here?
Do you want my wife to show you her tits?
That was his text to me.
That was his text to me
and I just started dying laughing
and I said, I'm in Ankeny.
He said, oh, I'm on the east side of the state
or something like that.
He said, it's much tougher over here
than where you are.
Confirmed.
And that Ankeny place was beautiful.
Yeah, that's habitually one of the 10
most sought after places to live in the United States.
It completely makes sense.
I mean, I was there for 27 hours, and I thought about moving.
Honestly, I was like, this place is gorgeous.
It is nice.
You had people walking on the street, on the main roads, exercising.
The parks were like, it looked like it was in a movie.
I looked like I was in a movie of what America, i was in a movie what america like what like back
in the day it was incredible it was i stopped by casey's nice person everybody in there was super
nice it was like good morning it's like good morning i was like holy shit this place is
this is a fake town this is a fake town then we went around a fire pit and uh they were telling
stories about how their seventh grade youth team won the state championship yeah the coaches were there they're talking about how the ankeny team won i was like
this is all i am in a movie right now and i love ankeny i won't let you know i love ankeny
that's great i'm glad there's a piece of iowa that you love i wait wait a minute a lot of uppity
fuckers in there it felt like that i mean I thought. It felt like that. It did feel like
the people I was with
were not.
Right.
Not everyone's like that,
but by and large,
my brother lives
very close to Ankeny.
A lot of uppity fuckers
over there.
It did seem as if
it was a very nice town.
One of the wealthiest dudes
in America lives there.
Correct.
And he has his own
private golf course
I drove by.
He started Roundup.
Oh, really?
Like killing weeds. This guy started Roundup. Oh, really? Like killing weeds.
This guy started Roundup.
Yeah.
A couple billion dollars.
It's a huge company.
Yeah, he's got his own golf course there and the whole thing.
I played on a private golf course here in Indiana one time.
The Simon guy.
I've been there.
I was afraid to take a divot out of the fairway.
But instead, we took a fucking entire ditch.
We played bad.
We played bad golf.
But we're the only humans there.
They had two armed security guards walking behind us. I would assume this private course
is the same thing. If you're at the
state where you can buy your own
private golf course, I think that's when
I think that's the...
I thought if I took a big enough hack, that guy was going to pull
that gun out and execute me right there.
That's the vibe. It was
being sent. and by the
way we're not certain that isn't facts like we're not certain that wouldn't have happened i mean
yeah there's a couple big there's a big divots i was sprinting to fucking fill it like give me
sand probably so soft too like so easy to leave a massive divot so the simon guy owns the simon
malls right so all the simon malls he's from the Simon guy owns the Simon malls, right? So all the Simon malls,
he owns,
he's from Indiana.
He owns the Indiana Pacers.
He passed away,
but he was a member of crooked stick,
which is a legendary golf course here in India.
PGA comes through here.
The senior PGA.
This is like where all of the uppity fuckers,
Indiana in ties words would play golf.
Beautiful course.
I almost had a hole in one there. I've never almost hit a hole in one in my life.
There I almost hit a hole in one. It was like, it was a really
cool time.
The legend goes, I don't know if this is a factual statement
or not. It's a legend.
The guy that owns Simon Mall enjoyed alcohol.
Okay, so he drank every once in a while.
He was a member of Crooked Stick.
He crashed a golf cart.
Got kicked out of the country club.
Bought the property across the street. Built his a golf cart, got kicked out of the country club, bought the property
across the street, built his own golf course.
Fucking legend.
It's awesome. It's right
across the street. It's like literally right
across one line of trees and it's just right on there.
Nicer golf course is right
across there. No one could play on it.
No one could play on it. Me, Nick,
CFO Phil, Larry Bird,
Bill Clinton.
Those are the people playing on the golf course.
I have no idea how we got in there.
I still don't have – I think we got invited back too, which is awesome.
I mean, at that point, you just have so much money.
Well, yeah, because the guy's widow lives in the house in the middle of the course, and I guess she's kind of a recluse, doesn't really come outside much,
but came out and actually wanted to talk to you yeah big day this this lady they were like uh
yeah the the wife the widow lives in that house she never comes out of the house and then all of
a sudden we're playing and like we see like the door open it's a massive door and they're like
oh she's outside and it's like for the workers there is even a big deal they're like oh my god
what do we do they're like on the radio like uh should we leave and then she was she like wanted to say hello which was
very cool i was like okay lady hey nice golf course you got here by the way nice house dude
thanks for not shooting us hey thanks for not killing us they had like fucking uh towers and
everything on there yeah for like snipers what yeah because i think when clinton played there
they had uh like they had the secret service everywhere so when he flew in and played there
they had like people in towers and shit i mean it's that's the level though by the way i think
i've decided private aviation is a great state of wealth that we should all be we're all striving
to get to in this room for sure absolutely but i think what we really should be keeping our eyes
on is potential private golf
course.
That's where we should
be looking at boys.
Is that tied with
Island owning Island?
Oh, I always thought
that was the top.
The Island is the top.
And then you have a
golf course on the
Island.
Par three.
Yeah.
Have a little par three.
I like to hit the big
stick once in a while
though.
You know, I mean,
you can't, I could
play the same four holes over and over.
It wouldn't bother me.
So my dad's family, like his cousins, are, I don't want to say they're river people,
but they're river people.
Oh, Creek Boys.
Yeah, it's Creek Boys.
Creek Boys.
They lived on an island in, I think it was the Allegheny River, which in Pittsburgh,
Pennsylvania.
So, I mean, you're talking about an incredible group of human beings.
They have a little four-hole golf course on the island that went through the houses.
Oh, awesome.
Yeah.
They play it.
I think I played there.
I mean, you have a par three, two par fours, and a par five, you know?
Four holes.
All right, now you're talking.
Now we're talking.
I think it was five holes, though, what you just said.
A par three, two par fours, and a par five.
Oh, no, I'm wrong. I might have said it differently. A five holes, though, what you just said. A par three, two par fours, and a par five? Oh, no, I'm wrong.
I might have said it differently.
A par five, though.
I don't know if that's going to have to be a lot of land.
It would be, you're right.
But you know, on that private course we played on,
they used the same green for like two different holes.
Yeah, you tee off from wherever you want.
Get a dog leg in there.
Yeah.
That one green was unforgiving.
I mean, it was so big.
I almost drained like a 400-foot pot. But mean, it was so big. I was trying to like 400 foot pot.
But then it rolled off the green.
And then I had to chip it
and it rolled off the other side.
And then I picked up
and went and talked to the widow lady.
And then we left.
And that's how the day ended.
But that is, I think that is where
we should be trying to get to.
There are so many Simon Malls.
I know.
And they pay rent. So it's just real so many Simon malls. I know. Everywhere.
And they pay rent.
So it's just real estate.
So all the stores pay rent.
Exactly.
So it's like the Walmart mentality, but with an entire fucking mall.
Yeah.
And I realize, I guess they have a huge piece of LA just on lock, like really nice malls out there that I thought it was just Indiana.
It's everywhere.
Yeah.
The bigger ones in Vegas is theirs. Yep guess i guess they have houses everywhere too like i guess they have
pretty i wonder how many golf courses he has oh i wonder how many country clubs he's been kicked out
pebble beach right across the street so if i go to a mall does it just say simon on it or it's
just one of those things you'll be able to see there's like simon mall it'll say simon mall on
it and that guy's from indiana and it's a fucking pretty cool thing a lot of very wealthy people here in
indiana by the way yeah i know and it always blows my mind like up toward where you live you go around
the geist reservoir in those areas and i'm like how are there this many people in the indianapolis
area that make that much money but there are where the fuck does all this money come from there's a
lot of companies that are started in indiana and there's a lot of companies that are headquartered in indiana
because it's pretty centrally located it's easy to kind of ship out and i think our taxes are good
yeah so like there's a lot of companies that are headquarters you got a lot of ceos and presidents
of companies here and shit it's just what you don't really know because we don't do a lot of
functions i mean i don't go to a lot of functions i don't i don't like them i don't like i don't
like fake talking to people that I don't,
will never talk to again, that I have nothing in common with.
Oh, congrats, man.
You like the tartar.
I got a friend named Zito.
He's trying to lose 20 pounds.
Can't fucking eat it, sorry.
So I don't really shake a lot of the hands of these people.
But then whenever you run into them, like for instance,
a guy that fucking started Exact Target.
The guy that started Exact Targets from Indiana
and I was at a golf outing
and there was an auction after the golf outing.
I had just signed my first contract
and I'm sitting in like one of the front tables
and the auction was a trip for four private plane,
VIP Saturday Night Live. Okay? Impossible tickets a trip for four private plane vip saturday night live okay
impossible tickets to get yeah plus a private plane so i was ready to go i was ready to go for
this one like all right we'll start the bidding at ten thousand i'm like yep i'll take that for
sure i mean i've spent worse money and the guy behind somebody behind me is like fifteen thousand
i'm like really quick i'm like all right i mean sixteen thousand guys like twenty thousand i'm
like what the fuck i'm like uh 21 000 guys like 30 000
what the fuck is going on so i go i look back at him i'm like what the fuck and the whole room's
like laughing right the whole room is laughing and the person sitting at my table shows me a phone
and it's a news article on his phone from google exact target just sold for 2.8 billion
like a month before that like this guy literally just
became a billionaire at the same time i became a millionaire and it's just a complete complete
different ball game and it was like hey you know you got it but i should have ran it up though for
the chair yeah like 170 the guy's really cool though he was like a cool dude he was his name
was scott good guy now he runs a company called high alpha here in town and i think they just
are venture capitalists but it's it's one of those things where you you never know when you're in a
room with a billionaire and especially in an auction you got to really keep your head on a
fucking swivel man if i had a couple more cocktails that day i think i would have kept going I'm happy the person at my table is like that's Scott oh hey I hope it's funny show me it's a funny show good guy though he came up to me he said
yes me if I wanted to go with him oh nice yeah but he picked one of the ones where I couldn't
go and I don't think he ever followed up either.
So I think it was a very friendly offer.
I think he has a McAfee jersey.
Oh, that's good.
That's boss.
Yeah, he's a good guy.
Billionaire, cool guy that I like.
It's incredible that there's that many people.
Because whenever I would drive through, like I said,
I was always in my mind, I'm like, all right,
there's this many Colts, there's this many Pacers.
There's everybody else.
You know what I mean?
How many doctors are we getting?
Is there lawyers just doing it?
How many crimes are being solved?
It is.
That boat.
I don't go on the lake much because of water.
By the way, I was in water in Hawaii.
Saw that.
How was it?
Good.
The year's good.
Let's go.
Nice.
I did those drops.
I'm about to be a fish.
Congratulations.
Thank you so much.
I'm good in water, too.
I still got it, by the way. I was riding a bike. Congratulations. Thank you so much. I'm good in water too. I still got it by the way.
I was like riding a bike.
It's only been like 20 years.
No, it's literally been 14 years since I've been in water.
Jeez.
That's so crazy.
Had to feel good, right?
It was pretty cool.
Yeah.
But as soon as I went underwater without it, I was so scared.
I was like, fuck, ruin the whole trip.
Just ruin the whole trip.
For those that don't know, I had a hole in my eardrum when I was in college
like 19 years old
I tried to fight a wave
and the wave fought back
it crashed on my head
and it
popped my eardrum
big surfer injury
big surfer injury
and Navy SEAL
yeah
Navy SEALs have this problem
Chris
Kyle
Chris Kyle
first time he went to Bud's
had to leave Bud's
because the hole in his eardrum because it was so bad so me me and Chris Kyle, first time he went to Bud's, had to leave Bud's because of the hole in his eardrum
because it was so bad.
So me and Chris Kyle kind of understood
where Chris Kyle was coming from.
I read two pages of his book that was on the second page,
and I stopped.
I was like, I love this guy.
But it's a good book.
I think you should read it.
I read two pages.
It was incredible.
I'm not a reader.
But I burst my eardrum,
couldn't get it surgically repaired which is an
option because the season was right around the corner
you're not allowed to do any physical activity for like
four weeks because your eardrum
is so sensitive to any
movement or anything like that so you're not allowed to do any
like kicking I wouldn't be allowed to do anything
so I just had to deal with it they're like it might cure itself
too though like it might
I'm like well I got no faith in my ears so I lived in like
stereo for fucking like a year like half my head couldn't hear anything yeah it was a wild scene
i mean it was a weird scene but then one day it kind of like came back a little bit it was like
back to normal but then so i got a little you know i was like i'm gonna go fucking dive right
into the water here and then for 14 days my ear just drained like blood and it was just like uh
so i was like okay
that's cool we're just never going in water again that's what we're never going to do because i will
never have four weeks where i can't do any physical activity literally in my life i'll never have four
weeks where i just can't do anything so my entire life and even through my adulthood i'd go to these
vacations i would never get in the water i would just look at it if i got in the water i'd have my
whole palm over my ear and i would just dunk my head basically and then i went to an ear doctor and this guy gave me some
of these drops and basically it's like uh these drops are just like super cure they like kind of
figure it all out and i'm back in water again it was it was nice to be back in there i grew up in
the water i used to jump off the roof of my house into a pool i mean i was born in the water and now i'm back in it and it's
it's a good feeling it was a really but i was so scared yeah i bet that first day i went underwater
i was like fucking idiot bro was it worth it just took a piss two seconds ago now you're just swimming
that's a real thing though because like if i would have got sunburned the way i did the first day we
were in the bahamas it would have ruined the rest of the trip.
For sure.
So I went to sleep that night on my right ear.
I was like, all right, let's just plan for this thing to drain out.
And I woke up and there was nothing on the pillow.
I was like, look at me.
He's back.
Fucking Aquaman's back.
Are you a cannonball guy or a diver?
I don't really jump in.
I kind of walk in.
Yeah, test the water.
No, I'm just like, hey, let's not be ridiculous here.
We're not a YMCA.
I'm a cannonball guy.
Of course you are.
You were with the fucking kids.
I went to a resort with 4,000 kids during my break.
It was great.
Deserted Island was how this place was pitched to me.
Every kid in America went there.
It was fucking great.
The fucking population of the island was 3,000 was pitched to me. Every kid in America went there. It's fucking great. The fucking population of the island
was 3,000 before we went there.
With those kids, at least 15,000.
Loud screaming.
But there's an adult pool.
It was like a restaurant that had,
back in the day,
that had a smoking section
and a non-smoking section
where there's no divider.
That's why I was like,
adult pool's here
and then there's like two bricks
and then it's like the kid pool here.
It's like, great. Can't hear them at all just fucking screaming bloody murder
because their uber wealthy parents have never hung out with them before this is their first
time hanging out with their parents it was a great trip though i had a good time back in the water
back in the game wouldn't get in that ocean though those waves they look serious waves sam
fucking tried to get in what a hilarious joke that that was. We're sitting in the room.
We had a room that could overlook the water.
She was like, I want to go get in there.
I was like, are you kidding me?
I was like, just watch this fucking kid right there.
And there's one kid trying to walk in, and he fucking, boom,
took him right off his feet.
You saw him pop up later.
He just got knocked out like fucking Ben Askren.
He looked like Ben Askren.
These kids look like ben askren
she's like no it looks like if you get past that though it's good so i was like all right let's do
this so we walked down there and i was so excited to watch this she got she got into like knee deep
in this massive fucking tsunami game i mean it was the biggest wave of the day and it sprayed
so hard off of her legs right up to her face it just went
like right in her nose in her fucking eyes and then like i think they're like her face just got
blasted and uh she just turned around and walked back and uh she sat down and she got like a towel
like on her face and i was so excited i was like so how do we like it was that a lot of fun did you
get past the waves she said it was fucking terrible i don't know why i thought that she
like yelled at me like you're supposed to tell me these like we're a team you're supposed to be like
no and i was like listen i was very excited to watch you do that as well i saw a little kid die
i was excited to see my fiancee potentially take me. Maybe blow out your eardrums.
See what I've been living with.
The ocean looks like so much fun, but it's really not.
I remember the first time I jet skied in the ocean.
The spray hits you right in the fucking eyes.
And the salt water stings so bad.
Like after five minutes, I'm like, I'm done.
Any given moment, that fucking jaws can exist.
Dude, there's one right now.
There's one that was on the internet yesterday.
Yeah, near Nantucket
or out there near Boston.
And it's Jaws. Huge.
The Jaws. Like actual
fucking Jaws. That's Jaws country right there.
I think everywhere is
though, by the way. I think those things are starting to just move
everywhere. I think you're right. Yeah.
That's what we've been talking about, right? Because of the weather,
the climate change and stuff, they're starting to move around to areas they've never
been at before thank you so much for bringing that up okay stick with me here with the weather change
do you think there was a global warming monkey that yelled at all the other monkeys
when fucking pangea split apart this is your fucking fault like do you think
there was a monkey that was like this is i told you guys we need to stop fucking farting
because imagine imagine like pangea used like our earth used to just be one big piece of land
and then it just all broke apart it's very easy to see that when you look at a map it's all just
pieces of puzzle and now the world is changing again and everybody's losing their mind.
It's global warming. We're causing this.
This is a big problem. I couldn't even
fathom what the animals thought whenever they were just
standing there and their fucking family was just getting
taken away in the Atlantic Ocean.
Come on. It's going so fucking fast.
Can't come back.
Do you think there was any animal that was like
this is our fault. I've been trying to fucking
tell you. I told you to eating to me bananas we told you guys
the banana shorties the continents are separated yeah that's honestly yeah it was probably i'm sure
there was that's that's the state of mind i was in in hawaii but i was sitting there staring at
the ocean some kid was screaming and i was just like how these fucking islands happen i was like
literally how am i sitting on this island right now it's out in the middle of fucking nowhere some kid was screaming and i was just like how these fucking islands happen i was like literally
how am i sitting on this island right now it's out in the middle of fucking nowhere those island
the hawaiian islands are just out in the middle of nowhere they're so awesome there's so many deep
thai roots to like the natives there and it's a spiritual thing i'm like how the fuck did this
place get here and then it looks like mars like there's this red sand like this red rocky thing
i'm like what the fuck is this place?
And then I started thinking about it.
I'm like, was this part of Pangea, man?
Did these three just say, yep, we're going by ourselves here?
Am I really on some spiritual ground?
These things broke apart from everything?
And then I was like, but wait a minute.
What happened when that fucking Pangea happened?
There had to be some real hell to pay.
There had to be some real confused motherfuckers.
Like, yo, what the fuck?
Do you think, too?
So it probably took a couple years,
hundreds of years to actually separate, right?
A couple hundred years, you think?
A million years to separate.
I don't know.
Do we know that answer?
I don't know.
I assume there were fault lines there maybe,
and then they came apart a little bit.
Do we know the answer on how fast they went, though?
I have no idea.
I've never learned that in my books. You read a lot of them. maybe and then they came apart a little bit. Do we know the answer on how fast they went though? I have no idea.
I've never learned that in my books.
You read a lot of them.
But like,
do you think they had
a decision though
to jump to the next island?
No.
That's what I'm saying.
They didn't.
We're talking about
millions of years, guys.
Millions.
Who told you that?
No, let's not do this.
Was it the same books
Let's not do this.
Was it the same books
that told you the food pyramid
was the fucking food pyramid?
That was a sham. Because by the way, the food you the food pyramid was the fucking food pyramid? That was a sham.
Because, by the way, the food pyramid, completely wrong.
The smartest food people and nutritionists of their time, completely wrong for dozens of years.
Zito got the upside down food pyramid.
That's what they say it is now, though.
That's what they say it is.
They get rid of the bread.
I was right the whole time.
No, no, you got to get rid of the bread.
That's what it was.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You were so close.
I kept that one.
But you're saying it took millions of years for this?
Yeah.
I mean, it's still happening.
They're still moving.
No way.
The platonic plates.
Tectonic.
Tectonic, not platonic.
They're very friendly plates.
Yeah, platonic plates are plates that don't have sex with each other.
No, the San Andreas was not platonic.
I put out a tweet asking if this is what it is.
So one side is just not happy with the other side, so they decided to split.
That's what they're going to say.
That's what San Andreas fault is.
So they're not plutonic.
And that's how those Hawaiian islands popped up.
Those plates bumping into each other, pushing upwards,
and then volcanoes going off on top of that, and then the ash cools,
and then that becomes landmass, and so on and so forth.
So we're saying, though, is the global warming caused Pangea?
I don't know the answer to that.
No, I always thought what I was learned was that it was glaciers.
So maybe glaciers carving up waterways.
See, but now glaciers are the same thing, right?
And the same thing happened with glaciers?
Like, is that?
Essentially.
Wait, geysers or glaciers?
Glaciers.
Both, really.
Yellowstone, bro.
Both, really. But yeah, bro. Both, really.
But yeah, it's all the water and the earth.
Yeah, water made pretty much everything.
It eroded the Grand Canyon.
But Pangean never gets brought up whenever we're talking about global warming and the earth changing.
It's like, maybe it's just time.
Yeah, so why are there no scientists saying, you know what, this is just part of the evolution?
Now granted, I do think-
There are scientists saying that.
But what they're saying now is we're accelerating.
Yes, okay.
That's their spin.
I am not saying that we are doing good to them.
Right, right, right.
I do not want that to be misconstrued here.
Right.
But I just don't see how.
I just don't see how after all these years
that it's all of a sudden an SUV is fucking killing the Earth.
I don't understand how.
The Earth's been around for millions of years.
I don't understand that. And maybe it's because for millions of years. I don't understand that.
And maybe it's because I'm not educated.
I mean, that's probably, I dropped out of college.
Maybe that's potentially why.
But it is, I understand that there is probably heating,
and I understand the glacier things,
and I think it's terrible.
But I'm just saying, man, what happened during Pangea?
Is that something that's potentially happening?
I know.
Is our earth control itself?
And the way that you find out years and years later decades later
The what you learned decades before what's completely wrong like the food pyramid you think you know?
Yeah, like some of these green things that are gonna be like 50 years from now. They're like all that
That eco fuel yeah, it's actually a price you guys were burning holes in the concrete
It's just melting into the fucking earth's core which was setting
off fucking volcanoes.
Like honestly
it's such an insane thing.
But I do think
we should take care
of the earth.
Yeah it's just like
everyone's shooting
their shot.
You're trying your best
and some of it's
not going to work out.
Some of it's going to
backfire.
I feel like 20 years
from now they're going
to be like oh the
Prius caused autism.
They're going to be
like god damn it
Toyota.
Damn you Toyota. Damn you, Toyota.
The Civic was fine.
Hey, by the way, Toyotas are made in Indiana.
By the way, there's another fun fact.
A little callback to rich people.
There's a lot of rich Toyota people here in Indiana.
I was told that whenever I turned down a Toyota deal
because I only drive American.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then they started spamming me with emails
about how American,
they're the most American car out there, I guess.
Good for Toyota.
Shout out to Toyota, but if they're causing autism, fuck.
But it's Bill Nye.
I mean, he yelled at me on the internet.
He fucking took a torch to the earth
and told me to wake the fuck up.
And I'm like, bro, I got a Tesla.
Get off of me.
It comes and goes. I mean, there were ice ages in the past fuck up. And I'm like, bro, I got a Tesla. Get off of me. It comes and goes.
I mean, there were ice ages in the past.
That's what I'm saying.
Right.
How come those are never brought up?
Also, though, at this point, if it's already being accelerated,
there's not a whole lot we can do to stop it.
If it's already happening, it's fucking happening.
I'm all about doing nicer things.
I hate paper straws.
Yeah, the worst.
I've learned you gotta flip them halfway
so you get both sides.
Did you see that lady fell on the metal straw
and died?
She stabbed herself with the metal straw.
Off her nose?
Like the fucking sea turtle.
That's the biggest piece of irony
I've ever seen in my life.
Rest in peace to that lady.
I'm so sorry that happened to you,
but that's what's happening in sea turtles, right? They're saying the straws are going up their noses.
So, I mean,
it's almost like that's scripted there.
I
used the paper straws in Hawaii
and I felt as if I was really doing
the world a favor. I felt like I was doing good.
But man, they're going to make those better
papers. They're going to make better papers. I think they're
cheaping out on the paper. I think they're cheaping out on the paper.
I think they're cheaping out.
The bend halfway through my fucking smoothie.
Come on, guys.
Can we at least make it out of some nice card stock or something?
It is one-ply toilet paper fucking straws.
That's exactly what it is. Can we make turtle masks and give them to all the turtles?
I'll wear a block.
You know what?
I don't hate this.
This is a good idea.
Who's buying them? Are we selling them to the government? the same as like using like the paper straws i can imagine
that cost take that money no people are buying the paper straws though like the restaurants are
using and we're buying there's a business there so if we make are the turtles paying us for the
masks or who's paying i think it's more of a zeet vigilante operation where he goes and just outfits
the turtles himself hey don't worry i got you guys
we've got a bunch of ninja turtles going around
uh we'll figure out the world's problems here one day yeah but i i thought about pangea a lot
out there in hawaii thought about pangea it is wild and i was like how come bill nine ever talks
about pangea like how come he ever talks about what happened to Pangea?
Imagine all the sea animals getting, like, new real estate.
Bro, so much more.
It opened up, and they're like, dude, hey, new tunnels.
It's fucking cold up here.
Let's go back down.
That would be awesome.
But the flooding, I mean, everything's happening.
It's obvious that climate change is happening.
Very obvious that climate change is happening.
No doubt. Very, very,
very obvious. And I'm assuming humans
are to blame for it. But I would also
think the Earth is probably to blame. I think the
sun too, right?
Might as well.
You know the sun does play a part.
That's what I thought. By the way,
Zac Brown hates the sun. There's a
fire in the sky. Great way to describe
the sun. There's a fire in the sky. Great way to describe the sun. Yeah.
There's a fire in the sky.
By the way, that fucker shows up at like 5.30 a.m. in Hawaii.
Just fucking ready. That'd be tough.
Ready to go.
Yeah, but it's 9.30 a.m.
Or actually 11.30 a.m. our time.
I never knew they had their own time zone.
Hawaii does?
Yeah, it's called the Hawaiian time zone.
Were you on Indiana time the entire time you were there?
Oh, yeah.
Like your body?
So you woke up well-rested?
Me and Sam were hiking at 6 a.m.
I felt like Mark Wahlberg in The Rock.
I was like, look at us, Sam, fucking hiking at 6 a.m.
By 9 a.m., we had already worked out, hiked, had breakfast, and were ready to lay out.
We were like the most-
That is clutch for vacation, though.
Oh, it's awesome.
For sure.
Coming back, though, was quite an issue.
I can imagine.
Quite an issue, because it's the complete opposite. Yeah, jet lags eat. Those pods, though's awesome. Coming back, though, is quite an issue. I can imagine. Quite an issue, because it's the complete opposite.
Yeah, jet lags eat.
Those pods, though, man, they're very pricey.
I enjoy those a lot.
I'd almost prefer flying to Hawaii than flying to Arizona.
On that flight, you have to have that, right?
Have to.
There's somebody in the back back there.
I don't know how they did it.
It's like our flight to Japan.
Anthony Costanza refused to pay the fee to upgrade to the pod he's six foot fourteen he's sitting the fucking back like
costanza bad decision here bub on the way home he got the pod but on the way over there he's are
they just first class uh yeah see i think like whole plane should be outfitted like that i think
there are certain planes like people have uh virgin virgin yeah that's how it should be if
you're taking a flight anything longer than like four or five hours,
I feel like it's just a lot of people would want to sleep on it.
Hawaii was eight hours.
Yeah.
Seven and eight hours.
That's as long as it takes to fucking fly to Paris.
Yeah, if you go the other way.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's absurd.
But by the way, I would rather do that than a three and a half hour trip
on southwest of Vegas.
Yeah, for sure.
Because that fucking trip, you're just miserable.
Well, home from Vegas. Oh, yeah. To Vegas. Yeah, for sure. Because that fucking trip, you're just miserable. Well, home from Vegas.
Oh, yeah.
To Vegas.
Yeah.
You're just,
your mind's set.
I'm about to ruin my life.
What's in the pod?
What's that?
What's in the pod?
You got a TV.
They have these noise cancel,
because I had a fucking,
I had the entire McAllister family
on the way out there.
The entire McAllister family
was in the first class.
They bought every other ticket
other than me and said,
I don't know how rich
these people were, but they flew 45 kids in first class in the pod. Those are all the kids in that fucking thing. family was in the first class they bought every other ticket other than me and said I don't know how rich these people were
but they flew 45 kids
in first class
in the posse
those are all the kids
in that fucking thing
it was all the kids
in fucking Lanai probably
but there was this one baby
that they were like
almost
it felt like they were
poking the baby
to cry
like the other kids
were like
and it was right behind me
and I'm like
are you kidding me bro
and they give you
these Bose headphones
and it was
noise cancelling completely plug it in you got all these tvs i saw the um the dude the um the
big lebowski i watched the big lebowski oh you you watched the big lebowski i watched that's
mind-blowing to me the first 40 minutes i'm impressed you got that far i fell asleep though
yeah it's a slow roller there's a sequel coming out on the Jesus.
It reminded me of that.
Yeah, it's been off.
When are you tweeting it?
I was like, oh, fuck.
I got to tell Nick.
I watched that.
I'm impressed.
What'd you think?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
In fairness, it's a movie you have to watch multiple times.
You pick up on the little things.
Do you agree that John Goodman was the best thing in that movie?
Yes.
His character.
He was angry, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He kept yelling at donnie the whole time
like he was he brought out a gun at the bowling alley oh yeah yeah yeah yeah he doesn't fucking
roll on chavez yeah he was good i i enjoyed the whole thought of it you know yeah he was the dude
you know it's like quite a stance to quite a hill to die on by the way that like that's not my name
my name is the dude you know what i I mean? He was pretty pissed off.
And I was like, alright, if that's your thing,
that's your thing.
Duder or Duderino.
I respect it. I'm going to finish it though. I liked it.
I didn't love it, but I liked it.
I didn't fully understand why everybody...
Again, it's one of those things where upon
multiple viewings you start to notice it pick up
on little things. You're like, oh,
that makes sense. Oh, I get it now. And I didn't didn't finish it and where you stopped it really takes off after that there's
a lot like a lot of action from that point if it means anything my pod did watch the entire movie
that's awesome though that was something i never thought you would even think about watching it was
there there was a lot of the options limited they got like their own netflix selection there you
know and i'd seen a lot of the good stuff that was on there.
Then that popped up and I was like, it's in the classic section.
I was like, here we go.
Mighty Ducks was on there.
That got turned on for a little bit.
Then I went to bed.
It was like I'd pass out and I'd wake up.
I'd turn something on and I'd pass out and I'd wake up.
That's why I loved it.
I loved the flight to Hawaii and back.
Loved it.
Absolutely loved it. You're just in your own little world there got full internet like this is not bad at all i should do that easy oh you can knock out three movies whatever it's i watched
the sopranos on the way back from uh not sopranos um the godfather series oh nice on the way back
from japan it's fucking incredible yeah never in my life would I ever do that, ever. Those are long movies. Yeah, long ones.
Those are long movies.
Good news, long flight.
Yeah.
Long ones.
And the pod is like six foot long, and it's like three feet wide,
and it's just like your own little world in there.
They bring you food.
It's awesome.
It's so expensive, but it's fucking worth it.
Would you rather like three long movies or eight short movies
in that time period?
Well, you never see a guy
in an office with 45 fish.
You know what I mean?
You see one big fish.
That's very true.
Good point.
It depends.
I mean, I saw I, Tonya
the last time I went, right?
I watched I, Tonya
and then,
is that the movie I, Tonya?
Yeah, I liked it.
I liked that movie a lot.
It was like a mockumentary
type thing.
Yeah, I enjoyed that movie.
Todd loves that movie.
I do.
I loved it.
I think it was a good movie.
It really was. I thought everybody that played in that played their role perfectly the mom
yeah hilarious and then the hitman the guy that hit oh yeah jeff galoo yeah oh god that guy
spoiler spoiler by the way tanya not as terrible as a person as you would think yeah i think the
movie was supposed to do that but i mean nancy what's her face carrigan
probably didn't love that movie but i mean the mom terrible tanya's mom's terrible it makes sense
though a lot and i'm not saying this is the case with all of them but a lot of those ice skating
moms and you know the ones the sports where you come up and do nothing but do that your entire
life dance man or not gymnastics we learned that with Larry Nassar. Yeah, Evan.
Evan.
Hey, don't associate me with that.
Michigan State.
You're still paying them.
Patient zero, dude.
And on that note, this show is coming to a close.
Wait, did you hear about Toy Story being big fans of ours?
Who?
Toy Story.
The movie, the last movie that just came out.
Really?
A lot of rv
awning jokes no way yeah i feel like we're really steering the ship for a lot of people and i think
it's about at some point we're gonna get credit for it yeah i mean kim jong-un we basically
launched him into super start for sure nobody was talking about him until we started talking about him. Fucking sleeping Joe.
Mexico Joe.
What are these doing?
Sleeping.
Sleeping.
Sleeping in.
Sleeping in.
We drive the conversation about that.
Now we've got an awning thing and the biggest movie of the year.
Probably Toy Story is going to be the biggest movie of the year, right?
Everybody loves it.
Lion King.
I think Lion King comes out in a couple weeks here.
Avengers, guys.
Come on.
Spider-Man.
I guess the end of Avengers 2, Super Bowl week.
Yeah, that's true.
I basically wrote the movie for him.
I mean, Jesus Christ.
Oh, there's another superhero movie I watched.
Spider-Man.
We talked about that.
I watched Spider-Man.
Not the newest one.
The last one.
Maybe I'll check out the newest one.
That guy.
I'm coming around on that guy.
Tom?
Yeah.
Coming around on him.
That's my guy, Tommy.
I didn't like him at first.
He's got an eight pack. He looks like he's 12. He's a gymnast. Yeah. around on that guy. Tom? Yeah, coming around on him. That's my guy, Tommy. I didn't like him at first. He's got an eight-pack.
He looks like he's 12.
He's a gymnast.
Yeah, incredible athlete, actually.
Really?
He was a gymnast and now he's an actor?
Mm-hmm.
That's a good move.
There's gymnasts.
American Ninja Warrior.
They can go into wrestling.
They can go into acting.
But you just got to have a terrible childhood.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's it.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I mean, it's terrible. I've watched the documentary
It's not good
But they're incredible athletes
Yeah they are
Like fucking Ricochet
In WWE
NXT
He's in WWE right now
Bro
I can watch that dude
Just stand there
And do flips all day
It's like hey
Cirque du Soleil guy
You're fucking incredible man
Cirque du Soleil by the way
There's another option for him
Yeah
I mean there's so many things.
Basically, Tom Cruise is that way until he got started because he was basically a gymnast.
And he got a movie role doing his own stunts with all these flips and shit.
Can we talk about the Biebs doing that fucking inside leg kick on that bottle cap?
Flicking his hat at it, too?
What a move.
It was nice.
He needs to give the Tom Cruise stuff a rest.
I don't think so after that kick.
That inside kick. I watched Mission
Impossible again last night.
He had doubts though.
Cruise will rip his fucking limbs off.
I don't know. That kick was very
impressive. I was super impressed
by that. I was like, good for Biebs. That was a good kick.
I mean, what's he do? Just sit on his money now and
just fucking chill. Yeah, I assume so.
Good for him. Him and Scooter Braun pissing everybody off.
Yeah.
T-Swift is not happy.
No.
She was number one on the Forbes celebrity list, too, last year,
and she's pissed off at Scooter Braun.
It's like, hey, T-Swift, not coming off optically great here.
I can see why you're pissed.
Maybe not a public battle here.
You know what I mean?
Let's just take this behind closed doors.
I don't want any Taylor Swift fans coming after me for that.
Her new song is great.
Just shake it off.
That a baby Z.
That a boy Z.
Anytime.
What did you want to reference?
One big T-Swift guy, actually.
She makes bangers.
Oh, yeah.
Just like Biebs.
They make bangers.
Is there anybody else out there that just makes bangers on a regular basis?
Posty.
The Fray. Post Mal Posty. The Fray.
Post Malone?
Yeah.
Fray.
How to save a life.
Imagine Dragons.
Imagine Dragons.
Drake.
Fray.
I have the Fray radio on my Pandora list.
Sometimes I get into it.
Well, that genre, though.
That genre.
There's probably like, what?
Fyce Creed, Nickelback, Frey.
They're probably all in there.
Do you just wait for morning to come home from a surgery
and then put on How to Save a Life?
Save a life.
Where did I go wrong?
I've said this before.
I've crafted my Pandora stations into very good stations.
My Kenny Chesney station, it's all I played in Hawaii.
By the way, people that were around us,
I could tell that people were turning their music off, by the way,
and letting my speaker just run.
There you go.
Because my Kenny Chesney.
That's a good feeling.
Well, you have to put in work on there.
You have to thumbs down the shit.
Like, hey, Kenny, I don't need your negative shit right now, okay?
I'm on the beach right now now and then if another negative song comes
out you just gotta get rid of it as quick as possible because i think the quicker you do it
too the algorithm they know hey he does not want to fuck around with this i've been doing that for
my netflix recently really yeah so i didn't really realized it but if you're like searching through
it there's a thumbs up thumbs down in the panels i didn't know that i didn't know that either so
yeah so like like the next couple days i've noticed i have like better flicks on there so netflix is
getting rid of friends right yes and the office and all that yeah netflix is going to get stripped
to the bone here in like a year and a half because every company every network is just going to have
their own streaming service right everybody wants to have their own stream yes and at&t owns like
fucking 90 of the content so that is going to be like the new streaming time
warner yeah it's called it's going to be called hbo max i saw netflix hbo is going to be in the
name of it yeah hbo max it's launching in like 2020 and it's got everything on hbo which i don't
know what that means for like hbo go and their properties but then it's got like the entire
warner brothers uh catalog of movies and shit there's. There's going to be a bunch of stuff on there.
Netflix is moving international.
So they're really
going for that market. I think it's because
of all this. Create all their own content.
Their original series. So could HBO Max
be a great their own content like we were saying?
Yeah, I'd assume. Just like Hulu
and Amazon. They've already confirmed. They've got
eight, nine shows slash movies.
There's another one called Quibi coming out.
I only know that because we were asked if we wanted to do a show with them.
Quibi.
It was a trout we don't.
The show that we, it's, I mean, they're offering us up for it, I guess.
It sounds like the perfect show for me and Foxy, to be honest with you.
It's about two guys traveling.
Nice.
And they film you traveling, and you flip a coin,
and you either live the high life in the city or the low life in the city.
Oh, boy.
This guy can't slum it.
Well, that's the thing.
One person lives the high life.
One person doesn't.
Oh.
You guys already do that.
Yeah, every time.
Every time.
Give me that penthouse.
I was like, I'm not fucking doing it.
They're like, well, we're going to pitch you for it. it's better to say no to something than to not be offered no i'm
like well i'm not gonna do it i just want to let you know but it's like a month long you go to 10
different places it sounds awesome but every human we've talked to that has had a travel show they
hate it remember burt kreischer was like his schedule's just crazy yeah they're like they
don't like it and if i have to slum it, which will happen. Foxy will get the fucking Larry Nassar treatment everywhere.
And I will be slumming.
I'm like, maybe you get me when I'm 18.
I'll go do this thing.
But it's a new streaming service, though, digital.
They have a lot of money, I guess.
They're making a lot of stuff.
This is how they pitch it to me.
They're like, Justin Timberlake's doing stuff with them.
Bah, bah, bah.
Be a good thing for you to get in with.
I'm like, okay,
I'll go to fucking Bangladesh
and live on the street for a fucking place.
Get out of here.
I'm not doing that.
Well, let them pitch you first.
They're not going to pitch me
because they're going to listen to my podcast
where I'm going to saw it down.
Like right now, climbing coonan or listening to
this just like god damn pat could you not edit that out at least we don't know how much money
they're gonna offer you to do i don't think there's enough i mean i wouldn't mind living
like a prince in bangladesh for a little bit yeah i bet you would just let the alternative
probably not great i'm probably not coming back and it And it's a month and it's a pretty long schedule too.
It's like, I don't know.
I like my bed.
I like traveling, but I like my bed at the end of the day.
You're not relaxing at all during that.
It's literally just go, go, go.
Yeah.
Yep, so I'm out on that.
Hey, Justin Timberlake, you can take that one, bro.
Look at me.
Look how nice of a guy I am.
Just giving Timberlake stuff.
He doesn't have enough.
Don't he own Myspace?
Yeah, he did buy it, I think.
You know what's cooler than being a millionaire?
Being a billionaire.
Justin Timberlake said that.
Three Comic Club.
Hashtag endgang, hashtag endgame.
If you were a billionaire, what would you buy?
From myself, Todd, Nick, Zito, Ty, and Foxy,
have an incredible Thursday night.
Huge thanks to Kirk Herbstreet.
And also, shout out to us for figuring out the world's problems.
Yeah.
That's what we do.
That is what we do.
We do.
That's what we're here for, I feel like.
Yeah, because some people were sent to Earth to do different things.
Yeah.
Elon Musk was sent to Earth to take advantage of all his planets
technologies and make incredible money off of it yeah which he has done yep it's probably real
dumb where he's from too you know what i mean smartest guy here oh yeah big fish i'm going
somewhere else yeah i'm gonna take my my little rocket ship and go home
it would be hard not to just stay here though yeah if i'm the dumbest guy on my planet
the smartest guy on this planet oh yeah yeah i would do that in a hard made
they said not to surround yourself with dumb people that you never get better but
you're looking pretty good
ty schmidt hit the music. Hit the music. It's just a talk, smiles politely back at you
You stare politely right on through
Someone stored a window to your right
And he goes left and you stay right
Between the lines of fear and blame
You begin to wonder why you came
Where did I go wrong?
I lost a friend somewhere along in the bitterness
And I put off staying up with you all night
And I don't know how to save a life Let him know that you know best
Cause after all you do know best
Try to slip past his defense
Without granting innocence
Lay down a list of what is wrong
Things you told him all along
Pray to God he hears you
And pray to God he hears you
And where did I go wrong?
I lost a friend
So where alone I go wrong? I lost a friend So we're alone in the bitterness
And I put out straight up with you all night
And I know how to save a life
As he begins to raise his voice, you lower yours
And grant him one last choice, drive until you lose the road
A break with the ones you follow
He will do one of two things He will admit to everything
Or he'll say he's just not the same
And you'll begin to wonder why you came
Where did I go wrong?
I lost a friend somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
Where did I go wrong?
I lost a friend
Somewhere along in the bitterness
And I would have stayed up with you all night
Had I known how to save a life
How to save a life
How to save a life
Where did I go wrong? I lost a friend
Somewhere alone in the bitterness
And I put our state up
With you all night
And I know how to save a life
Where did I go wrong?
I lost a friend
Somewhere alone in the bitterness
And I thought I stayed up with you all night
And I know how to save a life
How to save a life
I'll save a life