The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 095 - The Most Interesting Man On Earth: ESPN's Marty Smith

Episode Date: August 1, 2019

On today's show, Pat and the boys discuss his couple of days in Charlotte for the ESPN College Football seminar. He talks about getting thrown into the fire, and recounts his entire experience, as the college football season (and football in general) creeps closer and closer. Also joining the show is ESPN College Football storyteller/analyst, one of the most charismatic and genuine people on the face of the earth, and soon to be New York Times Bestselling Author, Marty Smith. He and Pat chat about his career path to where he's at now, the relationships he's made along the way, and a couple of stories from their few days together at the college football seminar. Marty also gives a sneak preview of his new book "Never Settle: Sports, Family,  and the American Soul," which details some incredible stories with the likes of Tim Tebow, Michael Vick, Ric Flair, Nick Saban, and his best friend, Eric Church, among many other things. You're really going to enjoy this interview (2:45-1:02:31). Pat and the guys also chat about LeBron taking heat for celebrating at his son's AAU game, the NFL season starting tonight with the Hall of Fame game, some of the stories that have been floating around training camp including Saints WR Michael Thomas signing a new deal, Lev Bell apologizing to fantasy owners for missing last season, and Nathan Peterman growing on Coach Gruden as well as the building excitement for the new season of Hard Knocks. Today's show is a great one. Come and laugh with us. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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College football's back in a couple weeks. The NFL's going to start cranking out games, and so is the collegiate football people, which I'm a part of now. I just got back from a college football seminar with all the bigwigs from Espen down there in Charlotte, North Carolina. And the man that we have on today is going to captivate you in a way that I don't think our show has ever done before.

I'd agree with that. We have a heater of a show today. Oh, yeah. I got directly off a plane from Charlotte, came right into the studio. We started recording around 930. We're now at like 11 o'clock, 1115. Didn't know how the show was going to go, to be honest. Didn't know how the show was going to go whenever I came.

It's been a long day. I sat through seminars. I've learned a lot. Traveled a couple of times. I mean, it's been a long day. And then we seminars. I've learned a lot. Traveled a couple times. I mean, it's been a long day. And then we got in here, and our guest tonight is electric. Storyteller, real life, not only verbally, but he actually wrote a book that you're going to want to read afterwards,

and I'm very thankful. And I enjoyed the hell out of my Espen time, by the way. Enjoyed the hell out of it. You're going to hear all about it. I also enjoyed the hell out of my experience the first time I bought tickets from Seat Cake. Because I used to buy tickets from other ticket buying platforms. And I'd buy a great ticket, I thought.

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Now talk to me Oh I think this is a lot better Yeah man get some of that Hey you should hear your voice there, too. It's incredible. Do I sound like the voice of God? Yes.

Like hillbilly God? Hold on, hold on. Hold on. Ladies and gentlemen, joining me now is a man that's synonymous with everything that's awesome. that's synonymous with everything that's awesome. The more and more research I do on this dude, the more and more I realize he's real life the most interesting man on earth. He has a hell of a southern accent,

which is going to throw you for a loop because once you start hearing his brain spew out of his mouth, it's nothing but magic. He was first with NASCAR on ESPN. Now he's with the college football ranks he's all over the place he'll do horse racing he'll be swimming with nick saban he'll talk to rick flair and when he speaks at an espn college football seminar everybody stops what they're doing i it was an incredible thing for me to witness and it's an incredible honor to have you on the show soon to be author book

charts topping there's no way that's accurate that's not how you're supposed to say that you get it though ladies and gentlemen the handsome man who lives in north carolina and author of never settle sports family and the American Soul coming out on Tuesday. Next Tuesday. Next Tuesday. August 6th. That I've gotten a chance to read a couple chapters of. Never read a book in my life.

Never read a book in my life. But when this guy sends a book with a nice personal message, and I got a chance to be on his show, I was like, I'll check it out. He told me a couple chapters to read. I read them. We'll talk about them in a little bit. The most interesting man on earth, Marty Smith. I feel like I should do like two claps and a Ric Flair.

I will tell you, first of all, I'll say this off the top. I can't thank you guys enough for having me and for championing my book and me. It means so much to me what you said, brother. And one thing that I admire about you, I just said this to my agent a little while ago, whom you know as well. And you don't meet a whole lot of people in this world who genuinely know who they are.

There's a whole lot of people who pretend that they do and who sort of project this image that they want to project, but it's not authentic. And everything you do is authentic. And it's very rare to be around, and it's wonderful to be around. I appreciate that so much. I think there are a lot of people that feel they've got to be characters in this world. But I think this is also why you have succeeded so much is because everybody has this utmost respect for you i'm telling you last night we were sitting around there were some beers to be had there were some very powerful people

standing around us at uh my new place of employment very powerful individuals were there people that make decisions and they were all just staring with like their jaws dropped almost, listening to Marty talk. And I was like, this motherfucker is it. All right, so let's get it. Oh, you're too kind. I think it must have just been the hair. And we talked about that last night.

I said, what do I got to do? What do I have to say to my barber to get your haircut? And you said? Well, here's what you have to do. You go in there and you say, I would like to have a high fade with a number two. And then I just want a full-blown faux hawk on the top. And what ends up occurring is your hair. Oh, whoops.

I almost dropped the phone. You asked me if I could hold the thing for 30 minutes. I almost fumbled it after three. Ball security, job security. Yeah, you wind up looking like a soft-serve ice cream cone by about 5 o'clock in the afternoon. But nonetheless, it's just how I roll. Man, you would look.

You want to talk about looking like a stud. I know, dude. You get that action. Hey, they put makeup on me today. I've never looked this good in my life. I mean, those makeup people were top of the line. It was an incredible. Yeah, they know what they're doing.

Yes. They take this and they make it look acceptable for America in high definition. That is the challenge. And thank God for them because we'd be scaring the hell out of everybody. Marty, for the people who might have never heard of you, I have no idea how, but let's just say there's somebody that never heard of you. What would you say, like, what would be a great way to say,

hey, this is who Marty Smith is? Because it seems like you've really, I mean, you, and I told this to the guys before we went on. He has this Southern accent, but he's like philosophical when he talks, and he's very intelligent, but he's got that draw that makes you think like, oh, he's supposed to be a little bit dumber, but he's not. He's smarter than you are. And he's cool with everybody. How did this world become to be like, is this what

you always thought you were going to do? I couldn't fathom that being an accurate statement. No, man, I grew up on a cattle farm in Appalachia in Southwest Virginia, about 20 miles west of Virginia Tech's campus. And I had these wild, fantastic dreams that I was going to go play point guard for Mike Krzyzewski or play quarterback for Frank Beamer at Virginia Tech. And the problem with that was athletic ability. I just never allowed myself to consider anything out of reach. And there's such a naivety in that, but it has served me so well because that coupled with those

fantastic dreams were people who did believe in me, believed in my approach. And, um, when all of that melded together, when any doors of opportunity for me were even cracked to the remotest degree, I kicked the sumbitches down. And, uh, it's just, look, my blessings are so rich. And at this point in my life, I've made mistakes. I've hurt people. There's things I want back, but I've been afforded this grace that has, at this point, resulted in what I believe to be the best version of myself. It's someone who's empathetic and someone who tries to be kind and work really hard and champion other people and love his wife and be a good father and a great

friend and um i hope that's i hope that's a decent decent way to describe me yeah it absolutely is in obviously you would know better than me but it it seems as if that's the case. You come in with NASCAR, with ESPN. That's kind of, I think, how you got your big break. Then NASCAR goes to Fox. ESPN and Fox were thinking about trading you to another network, which is insanity because you were like the voice of NASCAR at the time. I didn't even know that. I didn't even know you could.

Did you know we could be traded? NASCAR at the time. I didn't even know that. I didn't even know you could, did you know we could be traded? I get this, I get this phone message at my house in Charlotte and it's a, it's an executive and they're like, Hey man, you're going to see some things on the internet. Don't believe it. Damn. What did I do? And, uh, ultimately my agent called and he's like, man uh there's some moving parts going on don't worry you're gonna be fine and then i find out later in an article that there was some discussion

i guess it was never like no one ever came to me about it but i guess that the deal was it was going to be katie n, who at the time was at Fox, traded for Ian Dark, the great soccer play-by-play guy, and they were going to just throw me in as collateral. Hey, just take this hillbilly over here and put him on the net. A pick to be named later. That is a conditional draft. Exactly. That's what I was.

I was a pick to be named later. I was the guy draft. Exactly. That's what I was. I was picked to be named later. I was the guy that was the famous person and others. ESPN held onto you, though. Thank goodness. Yeah, you said that last night. You were so happy. You were thankful that ESPN held onto you. Is it because you got moved into college football and this is like your heaven?

Think about this. Think about how rare it is for a sports-centric reporter. All that I had ever covered in my professional life for 17 years at the time was auto racing, and I loved it, and I had tremendous passion for it, and I still do. But when you're that ingrained in a certain culture especially one like NASCAR that's kind of its own thing right yeah for the executive level at ESPN Lee Fitting who you know you and I just just were with him for the past couple of

days at the ESPN college football seminar in Charlotte. For him and John Wildhack, who is now the athletic director at Syracuse, who at the time was one of the highest ranking officials at ESPN, for them to say, we believe in your approach and we think that your approach belongs in college football, was not only shocking, but it's the rarest of occurrences let me tell you a quick story i come home from the final nascar race of 2014 in miami florida and i had been gone for all intents and purposes laney my wife who is an angel from the heavens, had basically been a single mom for about five months. Because NASCAR is an unrelenting grind. And we, ESPN, had the second half of the NASCAR season,

the final 20 races of the year. And so I had had those races. And that's a five-day-a-week prospect when you're a reporter in NASCAR. We had eight, five, and two at home. I come home on November 17, 2014. I walk in the door, and my poor wife has tears in NASCAR. We had eight, five, and two at home. I come home on November 17th, 2014. I walk in the door and my poor wife has tears in her eyes. She says, Martin, I need you home, honey. I need you here. I need you to be present. And we're insecure. Men are insecure about those things. We're very insecure. And so initially I was like, you know, I'm out here trying to do this.

And that's such a self-absorbed reaction but I told her don't worry I've signed this new ESPN contract I don't even know what I'm doing yet but I'm not doing it until January 1st 2015 God is my witness boys I sit down on the couch we put our older two in the car to take them to school I sit down on my couch I opened up my email and there's an email there from Lee Fitting, who made College Game Day College Game Day. He took a really good studio show and made it an American institution that is as important in many cases as the games themselves

to the college football fabric in this country. Huge show. Learned a lot about it these past couple days. It is an animal of a show it is awesome it is it is the standard by which all others are measured period in in the paragraph and the numbers by the way also very awesome that show that for how long it is that show is doing it i think is a good word to describe it i learned that but anyways that's his baby there are so many reasons that it's doing it it's it's amazing leadership it's crazy talent

on the panel with reese kirk des coach pollock maria etc gene wojewoski Tom Rinaldi, great storytellers. They have it all. And chemistry, which is this unteachable X factor that can take good to transcendent. And they have that. And so anyway, I'm sitting here on the couch and I open up this email, my two-year-old daughter Vivian's playing in the floor. And there's an email there from Lee and it says hey man uh start studying college football because I'm going to make you one of the four reporters that I embed with the actual schools that qualify for the inaugural college football playoff and you it may as well have been written in some sort of Sanskrit. Because I'm like, wait, wait, what?

And I hold my phone out, and I look back at it, and I'm like, oh my God, I knew it. Right then and there, fellas, I knew this is a treasure map. This is a treasure map because if I follow the directions, and I'm willing to dig deep enough to go get it, there are going to be riches beyond my wildest dreams when I find that X. And I don't mean financial riches. I mean life experiences. And I called my wife right then. And she answered the phone, where are they sending you?

And I said to her, I said, said honey i don't know how to tell you this i've been i've been directed to study college football and i'm going to be a part of the inaugural college football playoff this is one of the largest initiatives in esp in history i know i can't articulate to you right now what this means but but if you will trust me, it's going to change our lives. And God is so good. Who'd you go with? Who'd you go with? The Ohio State Buckeyes, who, by the way, won the national championship.

The Marty Bump. Dude, I got another great story about that. Hell yeah. That's all we got here. So they dropped me in Columbus, Ohio like an alien from Mars. I am this country boy. What are you wearing? NASCAR guy.

What are you wearing? Are you wearing like shit kickers or are you like dressing in a suit? Yeah, I love cowboy. I mean, I'm a sneakerhead, big time Jordan guy. I saw those last night. They were nice. Yeah, man. I'm a sneakerhead, big-time Jordan guy. I saw those last night. They were nice. Yeah, man. I'm a big Jays guy.

But I had on some cowboy boots and some jeans, and I had on what I thought at the time were nice suits, but I was incorrect. And I upped my suit game quite a bit. But so I'm in there, and I'm there for a couple days, and I made the decision I'm going to report what I see and what I find to be interesting about the program. I'm not going inside baseball on this because I just didn't know.

I hadn't been around. I didn't have the contacts and the relationships, and college football fans know a fraud when they see it. Oh, I'm fucked. Let's go Mountaineers, right? Hey, no homers, bro. No homers. Take it easy.

Actually, you know what? Check it out. Look what I'm wearing. Hey! Did Huggy send you that? Did Huggins send you that? One of my best buddies in all of college sports is Steve Beer. He was the, until very recently, Huggins, Huggy Bear's equipment guy for the basketball program.

Oh, I think I follow him on the Twitter, I think. Yeah, he's a phenomenal human being. He's now moved to Nashville because he's getting married, and his future wife is a real big wheel at one of the Nashville record labels, and so she wins. So I am at – Attaboy, Steve. I'm in Columbus.

I'm in Columbus. Yeah, right. No doubt. I'm in Columbus. And on day – on like day three, the sports information director comes over and he's like, hey, Marty, you should probably meet Urban. And I'm like, oh, yeah, hell, I guess I should meet Urban. So we go into Coach Meyer's office and I shake his hand and I say hello.

And I'm like, hey, man, I'm not going to get in your way. I'm going to report what I see. I'm not going to be a nuisance, whatever. He goes, man, hey, if you need anything, ask Jerry. If it's important enough, he'll bring it to me. We'll figure it out. All right, awesome. Thank you, sir.

That's it. They end up winning the national championship. I'm with them for this entire ride. Here's where the story gets good. Fast forward one full year to the Clemson-Bama One National Championship in Phoenix, Arizona. Okay.

Coach Meyer, Hugh Freeze, and Brian Kelly are guest analysts for College Game Day at the national championship. I am, and we have this workroom in the University of Phoenix Stadium. I think it's now something else, State Farm, or somebody else sponsors the stadium. Now, anyway, that's an aside. I am running in and out, in and out, doing all these live shots

for all these different shows about the national championship. I come in from one live shot. I get grabbed around the shoulders. I look up, and it's Coach Meyer. He goes, I need to talk to you. And I'm like, oh, oh, Lord. Okay, what's up, man? I can talk right now.

He goes, no, I can see you're thrashing. When you're done, just come over here. I'll be sitting right over there. Just come talk to me. Yes, sir. I finish up. I walk around this couch. I take a knee like I'm in a huddle.

Take a knee. Take a knee right beside Coach Meyer. And I said, hey, man, what do you need? He goes, I feel like I need to tell you something. And I went, all right. He said, you remember when we met? I said, yes, sir, I do very well. You were very, very kind to me.

You gave me time and attention I hadn't earned and didn't deserve, and I appreciate that. He goes, can I tell you what I was thinking? I went, yeah. He said, Oregon gets Samantha Ponder. Florida State gets Tom Rinaldi. Alabama gets Kaylee Hartung. And they send us this bumpkin frog.

That's what they think of us? And I didn't know whether to laugh, us and i didn't know whether to laugh cry i didn't know what to do and you laughed right this grin on his face so i started laughing and he goes i want to say one last thing it took me three days i knew in three days that you were the guy for that team at that time and i said how he said because we were underdogs nobody thought we'd win and you were an underdog how about that pretty cool one's a national treasure the other a national champ so that's a pretty good little run there only getting started his southern draw is beautiful this is a beautiful man i'm telling you he's a beautiful man speaking of beautiful things sleeping with the comfort of

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You've been there a lot longer. I don't know how much I'm allowed to talk about. No, do it. Bring it. It was like a training camp it was really like a training camp leave fitting the man he mentioned which i'm happy you mentioned him first and where the fuck are you you're in the middle starbucks let me tell you why somebody's hammering something are they lifting at starbucks welcome welcome to the welcome to Marty Smith, dude. This is it right here. It's a complete train derailment all the time. So we have this.

Lainey and I, our family is so blessed. We have this nice house right a mile from where I'm sitting at Lake Norman, North Carolina. I could look out my back porch at my dock, the whole thing. However, we went to our, we have a place in South Jersey where my wife is from, and we spend some time there every summer. That's where my family is right now. Unbeknownst to me, until about 30 minutes ago, my wife turned off our internet. So, that's why you hear them hammering things in the background of a Starbucks, gentlemen. Free internet.

You had to go sign in free internet. Yes, I i did i had to sign in and put my log in i appreciate you doing that hey i just want to let you know i appreciate you doing that anyways the man that you mentioned i'm happy you did so i didn't it didn't slip out of my mouth i need not be losing any friends over there yet but lee fitting is the guy okay he is the guy i got a chance to meet him whenever i first took my trip up to espn just there's a gentleman of a dude really honestly but i didn't know he was the guy and i didn't even know where i was going by the way i signed my deal 17 hours before this thing started and they just said i'm gonna be on a plane to charlotte you did i didn't know that yeah bro when we that announcement, it's like basically when it happened. Wow.

Yeah. I had no idea. So whenever I showed up at this seminar, okay, 1 o'clock is when it starts. I flew out in the morning. 12 to 1 is lunch. So I flew out. I got there like 10.30.

Went and checked into my room. Had to go get hairspray from Target. Went back to my room. Got down there at like 12.30 to get some lunch. I walk into the cafeteria. It's like I'm got down there at like 1230 to get some lunch. I walk into the cafeteria. It's like I'm the new kid at the high school. It literally is.

Every table's filled, and nobody's even looked. Everybody's having their own conversation. So I literally looked around. I was like, well, I ain't fucking doing this for sure. I am too old to be doing this bullshit. So I got a cup of tea, and I went and sat out in the lobby all by myself, okay? So I go sit out in the lobby where everybody's checking in.

Hasselbeck shows up at like 45. He comes in. He's like, what are you doing? I'm like, bro, look in there. I don't know anybody in there. I literally know everybody. He's like, everybody knows you, though. I was like, even worse.

Even worse. So Hasselbeck and I go in there at 12.52 because he's talking, his brother, by the way, who I met for the first time, they are the same individual. They are the same person. I've never met him face-to-face. I've only seen him on TV. They look the exact same,

and he is the exact same person as Matt is. And for the record, they're both wonderful dudes. And hilarious. And very funny. Yeah, they're funny. They're wonderful and hilarious. So I'm having this conversation with the Hasselbecks outside. We go in to get food.

There's no forks left. There was nothing left. All the silver, because we only had four or five minutes before we had to get in there. So I used a butter knife. I used a butter knife to get a couple of the steaks that were left in there and a couple of the fish. And I'm just shoveling it in my mouth, Hasselbeck sitting there. And now it's 1257. We're the only people in the cafeteria now.

Me and Hasselbeck are the only people in the cafeteria. So then we walk over to where the room is. And as soon as I walk in, somebody I've never met before who now I know is a very incredible person named Lindsay just hands me a microphone. She hands me a microphone. I don't even know where I'm at. Literally have no clue what we're at right now i don't even know what it is i just know that my broadcast broadcast

crew is there so i know we're hanging out but i have no idea what this is i walked into this room there's like 400 people in the room i'm like holy shit what am i at right now this lady it's one minute before it starts we're the last people in the room you never want to be the last people in the room we are the last people in the room and You never want to be the last people in the room. We are the last people in the room. And then this lady just hands me a microphone. She goes, we were wondering if you could be voice of God and get everybody in their seats. And I was like, excuse me? She was like, yeah, yeah. We were wondering if you could do that.

I was like, yeah, where are we right now? She must have thought I was on so many drugs. I was like, what's this called? She was like, it's the college football seminar. We do this every year. I'm like, okay, thank you. She was like, it's the college football seminar. We do this every year. I'm like, okay, thank you. So I start hitting the microphone, right? Voice of God.

I'll just do this from the back of the room. I start hitting it to see if it's on. And there's nothing. I'm like, it's not on. They're like, oh, you got to go up to the front. I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? Are you kidding me? I know none of these people.

So I walk up to the front of the room and they go, you're good. And I go go all right well uh it was very funny it was very funny you did a good job and he won like look i knew pat because i had had him on my podcast and we had met each other at indianapolis 500 several years ago and he's up there doing his thing and i'm like the man is like a rookie and they're bringing him in here to be the voice of god and then he just dropped the f-bomb the second he dropped the f-bomb everybody went oh shit this is real so i dropped i so i was reading the room right they're the ones that did this to me right they're the ones that put me up there they just wanted everybody to stop talking

to each other because it's like a reunion. This college football seminar is like a reunion because nobody will see each other again because they all go their separate ways. First day of school. No, well, they all go their separate ways. First day and last day. So it's a first and last. Really, this is just like their day to meet with other producers,

directors, analysts, because everybody just goes their own certain way. It's like a circus. It's a traveling circus. So it's like a reunion. So all 400 people got in that room that we're all laid into basically they're all talking like as if it's like a high school dance like everybody's just bullshitting and they're like oh if you can get everybody to sit down i'm like oh i don't know all right here we i only know one speed by the way if we're gonna

do this so i i dan orlovsky's sitting in like the front row he goes what are you doing i was like i have no idea dan i have no idea and then he turned my mic on like less than two seconds after i told dan i have no idea and i went right into ladies and gentlemen right into it and i was reading the room for like the first two sentences there were people in the back of the room that as soon as they heard me they did like this slow turn and they're like what this? And I was looking around the room. And my first two sentences, Steve Levy gave me like a couple pops. And like my first two sentences, I was like, he's a pretty OG in this whole thing. I mean, if he's laughing. Oh, he's a real OG.

Yeah. I was like, if he's laughing, we're good. And I looked to my left. And there's another man named Steve who's pretty important. He was laughing. He's very important. Very important. That guy also very important. He was front row to the left. He was laughing. He's very important. Very important. That guy also very important.

He was front row to the left. He was laughing. So when I saw Steve laughing and Steve, when I saw Steve and Steve laughing, I was like, you know what? I think this room's on my side. So I said the 2019 college football seminar, whenever we're all said and done,

is going to be the best motherfucking college football seminar, whenever we're all said and done, is going to be the best motherfucking college football seminar in history. In the history. He totally did. It was world class. Literally, as it was coming out of my mouth, I was like, aggressive decision, Pat. Aggressive decision.

It got scattering. I was going to say how the room reacted. Scattering laughs. They didn't know how to react because while this is It got scattering. I was going to say how the room reacted. Scattering laughs. Scattering laughs. It wasn't for everything. They didn't know how to react because while this is a great reunion for this tremendous group of broadcasters. Tremendous. It's a who's who.

It really was. Of sports broadcasting excellence. And I'm not saying that trying to be a homer or be cool. But when you're in the same room with Reese Davis and Kirk Herbstreet and Steve Levy and all of these guys that you see them every day

on air. Everybody was greasy. Was there fucking greasy? Everybody. And Pat just goes sit the fuck down. Everybody. And Pat just goes, sit the fuck down. I said, I'm looking around, I'm seeing a lot of celebrities right now.

This is a wild scene for me. And then when everybody sat down, I would end it with, all right, that was literally my job. Did you get you guys to sit down? Hope you guys have a great day. And I walked off. The first one got a clap. Second one got a clap.

Third one, only Hasselbeck clapped. Which is good. Good for the team. Good for the team. Those are long days, though. I learned so much out there. So did I. I learn every year.

But I'm going to tell you what was the most impactful part for me was when the general was up there today. today and and you have the opportunity to see and learn and hear from a decorated war veteran a decorated leader of this country who actually told us today that he led 239 000 troops international troops not just american they were it was international multi he too in iraq the saddam hussein uh he's he was the one in charge of the saddam hussein captured you get it yeah he was the guy and it makes you feel so inconsequential it makes you feel so small when you're in the in the presence of someone like that who has such tremendous perspective and and someone like tom tom rinaldi was up there interviewing him and someone like tom who has this innate natural ability to open people up that way and i just i was floored by his testimony and then you follow

that up with ryan leaf's ryans' testimony and everything Ryan's been through and how he's come out the other side and has this second lease on an opportunity in life. He had tried his ass off to throw it all away. Basically what he said, by the way. That's basically what he said. That's basically what he said. He says to us, the first thing he says to us when he gets up on the stage,

guys, five years ago today I was in prison. And you just see who he is now with this tremendous humility and this tremendous perspective and so much appreciation for coming out the other side uh it's just it's awesome and then we learn a whole lot about like what targeting is and stuff hold. I was about to say, yeah. We got this general, okay, who led the Saddam Hussein attack. Pretty big. Pretty large. Like, texted with the president,

I think, a couple times, calling him Lisa Rice. I mean, this guy, big deal. There was a lot of name dropping in this thing. He's real life. I mean, he's 20 years, no, 40 years in the Army.

40 years. 40 years in the Army. 40 years in the Army. Was it Schwarzkopf? No, it was... It was a Paisan. 40 years in the Army. 40 years in the Army. Was it Schwarzkopf? No, it was a Pison. Oh, nice for us. It was a Pison. If I wasn't on FaceTime with you guys, I could finagle my phone because I put,

not only did I put his name in my phone, but I took down all these different quotes he said. Did you take any pictures up there? That's a professional. That's a professional move, Marty. Hold on. Hold on. I think I got his name. General Ray Odierno. Did you take any pictures up there? That's a professional move, Marty. Hold on, hold on. I think I got his name. General Ray Odierno. There you go.

He likes to have a diversity of opinions around him when making a decision. Yeah. That was a great quote. I respect that. I wrote that down. It was like diversity of opinions. That was like a great way to say like,

I want to hear what every motherfucker in here has got to say. I respect it so much. And that thereby gives you a sample of what the general consensus might be. Yeah. That's what leaders do. Great leaders have the ability to delegate. Great leaders have the ability to listen to the people that they employ to be that level of voice in their ear and their conscience. And I asked him today, one thing I wanted to know was,

when you are in charge of so many people and so many landmark, honest-to-God life-and-death decisions on a daily basis, when you get back to the rack and you're looking in the mirror, brushing your teeth at night, what is your message to yourself? Oh, yeah. What is that self-accountability? And I loved his answer. It's, am I making the decision that's right? For the team.

Yes. Am I making the decision that's right for the people in my stead? And hell yes, America, man. He talks about how he had this idea on how to, I guess, kind of end the things that were going on over there. He had this plan. And the guy that was in charge of him at the time did not agree with it, did not agree with it.

So he was like, they took it to that guy's boss. And they were in the room i guess is that the fucking president by the way i think it was the secretary of defense i think i think that it was he was a three-star general at that time he took it to the four-star general above him and then i think it was the secretary of defense above that so i don't know that to be accurate but i think so yeah well it might have been the president i don't know that to be accurate, but I think so. Hell, it might have been the president. I don't know. Because when he said that, I was like, I mean, I don't know how many more people are above you, bud.

If you're pitching the idea that you're saying to us right now, I don't know how many people can just pull it. If this isn't a game of risk, I'm not sure how many people above you, buddy. So he talked about this story basically where he was like sitting at the desk, at this person's desk, pitching them his idea while his boss did not agree with it. And then two days later, they went with his idea. And it started off rocky. He said it started off not great. And then he even chimed in with, which is what I predicted could happen.

There you go. He said I predicted it could happen. He said then he saw success on the other side of it. And he talked about how it was like a cool moment for him and his team, how that was like a big thing, because he had to pitch literally over his boss to somebody else. And then I think Condoleezza Rice, he said Condoleezza Rice even called him and said, I don't agree with your strategy.

Prove me wrong or something like that. Or convince me, she said. Convince me. And they had like an hour conversation where he's like well this is what i think we should do to get out of the iraq war that is a wild scene to think about we're calling our analysis of oregon's offense not quite the same thing and so anyways i was going to say this about the Lee Fitting and how it was like training camp. He gets up at the beginning of this thing,

and it's just like a head coach leading off training camp. Here's the goals for the year. Here's how we're going to accomplish it. He had a slideshow. Everybody had this slideshow. It was this big conference. And it was just like really cool. Like that was the first time where I was in a group.

I was like, oh, shit. Okay, so this is like we're really going for it here. And they started putting up numbers. They're like, the Grammys got this. The Super Bowl got this. We get this. And it was like, oh, shit. I'm in the middle of some big-time stuff right here. And then they started talking about college football and the seminar feud.

And I knew nothing. I knew absolutely nothing about anything. It's hard to remember who finished as a Heisman runner-up four years ago. How am I supposed to know that? How am I supposed to know that, Martin? Did you

see how many of them we got? Like two. It wasn't just you and me, bro. It was everybody there, and we're supposed to be the foremost authority on something. Okay, let's talk about this book because I've got a couple chapters down. The boys got a couple chapters down as well. What did y'all think?

Well, Ty read the chapter four you told me about, right? He cried. Yeah, it made me cry. Yeah. Good stuff. So the chapter that the fellas read was about someone who had just an indelible influence on my life. I was covering the Special Olympics World Games in 2015, and my job was to embed myself with the U.S. athletes and learn some stories so that I could share those stories

on the globally broadcast opening ceremony, which is a three and a half hour live broadcast. And I'm walking around in the track stadium at UC Riverside, and it is a buzz just like on fire with excitement because these are athletes who've been told you can't you're not good enough you'll never their whole lives and guess what they were yeah and so there was all of this joy in the air and then i met an athlete named olivia quigley and i will tell you uh i i would love to tell this story but i I want them to read it. It's a great tale. Basically, you end up. She's unbelievable.

I will say this. She was a global movement as someone who was autistic and just had such an unbelievable influence on me and my worldview. I carry her with me every day. And you meant a lot to her as well, which I think if you read the book, we'll find out. And I think this is the interesting thing about you. Is it your curiosity that kind of leads you into all these friendships that seem to be outrageous? I'll just, you Google Marty Smith. A story that'll pop up is you swimming at nick

saban's house all right a story that'll pop up is you hanging out with rick flair a story that'll pop up is that you're friends with tim tebow basically a story that'll these stories are outlandish and then you hear about the stories in the book it's just like i think that's just you your curiosity kind of leads you into these situations where because you're such an incredible dude you win people over quick because you're genuine and you're awesome and then you build these friendships that are just next level and i think you help out them more than they help out you i think that is something that i got away from the that got out of the book that's extremely kind thank you i do take it very seriously. I enjoy more than anything else

in this job, having the opportunity to strip some veneers, having the opportunity to show you a level of depth or vulnerability about someone that you may not have known before. And I also love the opportunity for them to feel fulfilled by whatever that is, whether that's some of the stories in the book are, you know, Tim, you said Tim Tebow. He's such an inspirational person to me. And the impact he's had on my life is insane. That's in there. Michael Vick. All right.

I grew up 20 miles west of Virginia Tech. That dude's the greatest hokey of all time. He rewrote football. And then the dogfighting thing happened. And he went to prison for 23 months. And during his stay in prison, he did not run or play basketball or lift weights to satiate his competitive drive. He learned how to play chess. It became his passion.

And I got the opportunity to go to Hollywood, Florida, and sit on a beach with Michael Vick and play chess against Michael Vick and learn what it was like in that prison. Who won? He beat my ass. And look, man, I'm a nerd, dude. I was on the Giles High School chess team back in the mid-'90s, or excuse me, early-'90s. I felt like I'm a nerd, dude. I was on the Giles High School chess team back in the mid-'90s,

or excuse me, early-'90s. I felt like I was a pretty good chess player. That's why I had the strategy down. Michael Vick mopped the floor with me, dude. Well, football for him was not a lot of game playing. It was literally chess. He was the queen, too. He could find out wherever he wanted.

So that's how he played chess. So this is me. When he learned how to play chess, they were literally explaining to him, and somebody was like, all right, the queen So that's how he played chess. Like, all right, so this is me. That's what he's – when he learned how to play chess, they were literally explaining to him, and somebody was like, all right, Queen, that's you. Just pawn his offensive lineman right here. And he's just – he's literally just slicing and dicing humans on chess. That would be incredible. I – he captivates me so much because of what he was as a player,

how his mistakes, how he had to pay for those mistakes, and the person he is in the aftermath of those mistakes. And all of that is in this book. Brandon Marshall. I don't know if you've met Brandon. Just an unbelievable human being, but he had to learn who he was. He had to go to an outpatient program at McLean Hospital and learn that he had borderline personality disorder. So you, it seems as if, and by the way, he's done a lot of great work for

mental health and everything like that. He's the man. Yes. You love a good redemption story. I do, more than you could ever imagine. I appreciate people who take ownership of things they had to fix. They fixed them. And then not only did they improve their own lives, they made the decision to improve more. And that's what Brandon's doing. That's what Michael's doing. And that's what, I mean, like, I could go on and on. But those are just a couple of the stories in there

that I had the great opportunity to tell. And here's kind of the bottom line on this book, brother. I consider us all to be pieces of clay, okay? And every acquaintance in your life, every relationship in your life, every triumph, every failure, every crushing blow, every euphoric moment of joy, pinch at that clay. Some of those moments may just take a little tiny bit. Some may just rip out a whole rib. But what they all do is they reshape the person that you are and who you're going to be moving forward. My new relationship with you is very inspiring to me

because of what I said earlier. You don't give a shit about what someone else may perceive. You are you. And I've only met a select handful of human beings that are that self-confident. about what someone else may perceive. You are you. And I've only met a select handful of human beings that are that self-confident. I believe that self-confidence and humility walk hand in hand. I think that insecurity and cockiness walk hand in hand. Oh, shit.

That's a really good quote, by the way. I think you're right, too. That's what I've experienced in my life. Oh, by the way, I think you're right, too. That's what I've experienced in my life. And I just got the great opportunity to share some of these stories in a book that my publisher believed, so many people believed in me. And I just hope it impacts one or two lives in a positive way. Okay. And we've only read a couple chapters and we had people crying and we had people determined to do things.

I mean, it's a great... Hey, you got a really good book here. And I'm looking at the front of it. Eric Church... Incredible move. Ever heard of him? Wrote the foreword for this guy. Palo de Diego.

He's my best friend, man. Best friend. He's your best friend? He's my best friend, yeah. I like that friend he's my best friend yeah i like that he always wears glasses it makes me think he's either high or drunk all the time and i appreciate that there are very few people in my life who have inspired me to the degree he has and the story that he wrote in the forward of the book meant more to me than I could ever articulate. It made me belly laugh and it made me ugly cry because it encapsulates our friendship more beautifully than I think I ever could.

He and I have experienced the most euphoric of highs and we have experienced the most guttural crushing lows together and we have walked through that hell together and i adore him i i do he is a very very special human being talented guy too just like you i assume that's why you guys hang out but with that being said speaking of talent the eric church thing is very awesome i mean that's a that's a is that a power move fellas oh yeah oh forward by eric church but what i was gonna say is there's no other names on this book other than marty smith and eric church you actually wrote this thing it's not like you had a single word so you didn't have a now listen this is something people have pitched me books a lot they They're like, this will happen.

We'll come in. We'll sit down. I'll interview for like three, four hours. I'll go write a part. I'll come back another three, four hours. I'll write a part another three, four hours. Then you have to read through the whole thing and correct my mistakes. I was like, I'd rather just write it myself and do what you just said.

But they, but that's how I like four different people have pitched me that right. Four different authors. And I think that's how most people do their books here. You wrote this book where every single word that's awesome. That is absolutely incredible. How was that process? It was, it was liberating. I am a writer by trade. That's what I studied in college. It's was my profession for seven, the first seven years of my career professional career before i fell into television and so uh the very first day i sat across from my publisher 12 books out of new york city they broached that who do you think might you might want to write this book and i looked over at my agent and i'm like what what is he talking about? I'm writing this damn thing. And fortunately,

Dave Larabelle, who is the book agent for CAA, who helped me put this together, he looked at Sean Desmond, the publisher, and said, line by line, this guy's as good as you'll read. And that was a great endorsement by Dave. So I went to work, and I was just stupid enough to think I could write it during football season. I like to be a present father. I like to be a present husband. I like to be immersed in my family's day-to-day. So I thought, okay, airports and hotel rooms. I won't have that distraction.

Easy. The last damn thing you want to do after a college football game is go write a book. But I will tell you gentlemen, I managed to pull it off. In fact I left the national championship game in Santa Clara, California the morning of

January 8th, 2019. Flew home, kissed my family, got back on another airplane and flew to Manhattan and hold myself up in the publisher's office for six days so that I could finish it on deadline. And here's the thing about writing. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You hold yourself up in there, okay? I'm imagining a beautiful mind where there's just like, it's like giving me too much damn credit,

but I'm thinking there's like trash on the floor, scribble it up, do it again. Like pieces of paper, like thrown down. I'm thinking like, there's maybe some empty drinks around. It's just like,

you're like locked in like a mad scientist, like not going to leave until this thing's done. Is that accurate? Yes. To a degree it is. That's hilarious. I will say to you, the creative process is an interesting one. Some people will go to their cabin to write their record.

Some people will go to, I'm fascinated by songwriters. Me too. I actually have a song that I wrote in those pages. Right in here. Yeah, right in those pages. It's called Out Like That. And it actually, I was inspired by, remember when Marcel Darius blew up Colt McCoy

in the 2009 BCS National Championship game? Oh, yeah. He had like a numb thing happen to him. Yes. Yeah. It was inspired by that moment. Really? That's what the song was, yeah.

How does that work out? What do you mean? i just i i was texting with eric actually and i said hey man you ain't supposed to go out like that and he's like dude that's a song and so i just started kind of putting thought processes together and all of these people who did not go out the way they should have. Jesse James deserved to face that gun. Number three deserved one more race won. Those towers in New York deserved to stand. Lane Frost deserved one last go.

Cobain deserved one last show. I deserved one last day with my old man. Wow. He's got chills. Read it. It's all in there. That number three line. I got a little choked up in there, man. Yeah, yeah.

It's just, you know, I'm just fascinated by great writing. And so the creative process can be interesting. Now, I'm not going to lie to you. There's a lot. Oh, I almost dropped you. You still there? My bad. So a second fumble. Golly, man. I'm not going to lie to you. There's a lot. Oh, I almost dropped you. You still there? My bad. So a second fumble. Golly, man.

I'm like Ernest Biner. Was it Ernest Biner that fumbled a field? Yeah, but you got to remember, they only have the ball for like six seconds at a time. So an hour in, that's like 100 fucking carries. You have two fumbles and 100 carries. That's not terrible. You know what I mean? We can get you into the pros with that.

It's not there are times when i had to find a vulnerability in myself that i i went and got some jack and i i wrote i wrote based on the vulnerable you know because you lose your inhibitions that way and i can see why hemingway liked whiskey But not that I'm comparing myself to that. Just your methods. Yeah, got it. So you finished that thing on deadline with an impossible schedule. I mean,

Marty, I consider you a rather intelligent man, right? A lot of things come out of your mouth at very depth. Thinking you're just going to write it hand-in-hand with the football season is one of the dumbest things i've ever heard my life so stupid stupid i mean hindsight i guess is 2020 here but i just in my head i'd be like no way am i gonna i always assumed it'd be a long process you said you knocked it out in how long seven months let's go that's awesome it was on and off um Um, I went three full weeks. Actually, I mean, I guess truth told it was more

like six months because, because I had this three week period where I was very busy with ESPN and I wasn't in that creative mindset. And so I just couldn't, I couldn't, I called my publisher and I'm like, man, I'm just not sure. I'm not sure if I can meet the deadline you need me to meet. And he's so smart. Sean is a very smart man. Just give me 300 words here, 300 words there. When you feel inspired, put something on paper. You're going to do it. He was a great coach.

He really was. That's awesome. What do you think? I'm reading the back of the book now. Atta boy. Dale Earnhardt Jr., downer. Son of three there that he talked about.

Jim Harbaugh. Okay. These are all people writing little endorsements. Endorsements. Michelle Wee, professional golfer.

Michelle Wee, whenever you think Dale Earnhardt Jr. is going to be a part of something, you immediately think Michelle Wee is going to be a part of something.

That's the diversity of the, it's next level. And then Tom Rinaldi, which very similar to Jim Harba a part of something. That's the diversity. It's next level. And then Tom Rinaldi, which is very similar to Jim Harbaugh type of human. But that is the type of, you relate to everybody, man. You literally relate to everybody,

let alone Eric Church being there. I'm excited to see the reaction to this book, man. I think it's going to be awesome. I have not read it all. I will not say I've read it all, but the parts that I've read, and remember, I didn't even read the Berenstain Bears or whatever the fuck they're called.

I didn't even read that as a kid. You couldn't get me to get through a book. I do believe this is what I'm going to get through. I think this is really riveting shit you got, and it's right up my alley. It's all things that I understand and like, so I'm excited to hear it, and I can't thank you enough, man, for not only writing this book,

but coming on the show and being a good dude. Well, look, man, the pleasure's all mine. And to all of you there, I know your reach. I know you're passionate fans. It's a damn cult, and it's awesome. And it means I'll never be able to say enough thank yous that you gave me this opportunity to share. Marty, stop. Thank you.

Marty, we're lucky to hear your story. The boys have some questions, though, if that's okay. Yeah, man, sure. Love to. Let's roll. Marty, I have a question for you. That's the purpose of the segment. Yeah.

Just in listening to you speak, Kerry, you are probably one of the most humble men i've ever met uh what do you think made you that way like what was it about your upbringing that just made you so gracious and exhibit such great humility before you get started on this the man that asked that question literally has a tagline for himself that he's the most humble human on earth. He's the best in the world at being humble. That is his tagline, basically. Pretty good. So that question for you there is...

Well, it takes one to know one, so I see him. I'm very impressed by it. I don't know. It's sort of difficult. It took a while. It took me finding self-confidence because one of my greatest insecurities is I like to be liked. And a lot of people just, they might not care about that or they might act like they don't care about that i genuinely do i care about that and as i've evolved as a man i fortunately have

a wife who is my greatest sounding board and and such an unbelievable person of perspective about the the opportunities i've been afforded, the man I am, all those things. And I also had my grandfather. This is in the book, too. My grandfather was the godliest man I've ever known. He was the preacher man in Patton's Third Army in World War II. And just a total stud. And he had this amazing grace about him.

And so did my, I will leave in a minute. Are you guys closing up? So I promise, two minutes, I'll be out of here. And it's just, let's just say that I'm not. The most interesting man on earth is getting his ass kicked out of a snowboard. I was raised by amazing parents, too. And I just, I feel very, very fortunate. All right.

We've got like a minute, boys. He's literally going to come. One minute. Marty, real quick. One minute warning. You have one of the top two beard to hair ratios I've ever seen in my entire life. Ever. Yeah, it's pretty solid.

You just passed Tim Tebow's most inspirational interview that we've ever done on here for me. Wow. Number three. Really? We'll keep it to college. All the things that you've seen in college, all the experiences you've had, what's the most electric or coolest environment that you've been in in the college setting?

Saturday night in Death Valley, Baton Rouge, Louisiana, Alabama, Crimson Tide, in town to take on the Tigers. And end of the third. Can you hear that? They are trying to get you out so bad. and it – end of the third – can you hear that? You guys hear that? They are trying to get you out so bad. They play Colin Baton Rouge by Garth Brooks at the end of the third quarter, and there's 105,000 pirates just absolutely unglued and so intoxicated.

It's amazing. Dude, I showed up to that game last fall, and it was 5.50 in the morning, and I'm getting ready to do a 6.02 a.m. live shot on SportsCenter, and a guy dressed like Darth Vader with a handle of whiskey in one hand and a megaphone in the other goes, Good morning, Marty. Welcome to Death Valley. Whiskey.

I love that place. Well, do you have time for one more you think Look around read the room Why not let's be damn rogue Go ahead Marty I'm in awe right now listening to you You're so passionate about so many things And I love hearing what's important to you

So much so that I'm dying to hear Who's your hero um i have i have several uh but i guess if i was to boil it down to to one person it would probably be my mother and the reason i say that is my mom died at 47 years old from breast cancer. And the way that she carried herself was unlike anybody I've ever known. She had so much grace. She was the most selfless person I've ever known. And there's a story in the book about her influence on not just me but some of my friends growing up that encapsulates why i feel that way about her well they are hovering they are hovering let me tell you this

marty your mom i'm assuming she was very proud and she's looking down now and is incredibly proud of the man you are you're a gentleman to everybody you meet. You are incredibly riveting, inspirational. The book is awesome. You're awesome. And it was lucky. I was lucky to be at the same seminar as you, even though I didn't really know what I was walking into. Ladies and gentlemen, the voice of so many things.

And probably the next. What is the book? The book. The New York Times bestseller. New York Times bestseller. Mr. Marty Smith. things and probably the next what is the book the book the uh the new york times best new york times bestseller mr marty smith thank you guys so much i appreciate you guys hey thank you marty you're the best man now get the hell out of there before you get beat up by some barista you should see you should see how they're looking at me right now. All right, boys. Thank you. Thank you, Marty. Incredible interview with him.

So thankful for Marty. Send him a tweet telling him thank you. We've got a conversation on deck for you that's going to be very good. Wrap up the week's stories. I've been out of town, so the boys and I haven't really got a chance to chat about the things that have happened. And, boy, we dove deep into some things. Zito really showed his brain off here in a little bit, too. Thank you.

Speaking of showing off, I wore shorts to the event at night at a reception. I wore shorts to it. And the reason why is because my legs look so good. And the reason why my legs look so good is because I shaved them because I got a little bit carried away with the lawnmower. This device from Manscaped has changed the way i operate honestly i haven't shaved my legs probably since high school i shaved my legs in high school because i played soccer i told you this people would pull the hair on my legs take that away from them and i like the way i made my legs look i sure pretty good legs when you shave them they look better bodybuilders do it a lot of people

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is nice i think this will change your life manscape.com promo code pat what an incredible human he's good isn't he wow yeah he's really good man he is he's i'm telling you whenever he would speak at those at the seminar everybody because there would always be side conversations i mean there's literally 400 human beings at this thing right and you got a lot of personalities in this room too a lot of people that get bored probably relatively quickly so there's a lot of conversations side conversations happen somebody asks a question it's just like in a probably did you hear that like a lot of that side stuff while the people are talking up in the front whenever Whenever he raised his hand or whenever he –

they had this little microphone that I saw on Shark Tank. I literally saw this microphone on Shark Tank like the day before I went there. It's a padded ball that has the microphone in the middle of it so you could throw it around the room. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, and I don't know if it's the same company, but it was the same concept. The company went into the Shark Tank that I saw. It was a round one. This one was a square one, so company, but it was the same concept. The company went into the Shark Tank that I saw. It was a round one.

This one was a square one, so I'm thinking it was two different companies. But they were like, it's great for classrooms. Teachers throw it to kids. Kids get confidence speaking on PA. And Mark Cuban was like, no, this is a corporate thing. How many schools are you going to buy this? No schools are going to buy this. This is a corporate thing.

It's basically what Mark Cuban said immediately. And then literally the first corporate event I'm at, literally less than 24 hours, this thing's getting thrown around so as soon as somebody would speak into the microphone you try to guess a who it was like okay who the fuck is that asking and you look around and then i would normally go like who's that and has to be like a big boss and i'll be like all right i'm gonna act like i'm really paid and then i'd be like who's that he's like i'm not sure i'm like all right me neither and then that conversation on the side would happen we'd listen to the question they would have to repeat

it anyways because the person went somebody wouldn't be paying attention what so we'd have our side conversation but when marty yeah uh general first of all i just want to say thank you for everything you've done for our country and america and just your whole life of service like he goes on this whole thing and literally literally as soon as that first, yeah, general, everybody in the room just kind of slows down. They're like, all right, here we go. Marty's going to ask something interesting. That's what everybody like.

Marty's going to ask something interesting. And he does because I think he's such a curious dude. I just think he's a very curious dude. That's why he builds these friendships. Like he'll ask, like for instance, where every time I've talked to Mr. Ursa, I have never in my life talked to him as if he was a billionaire right like i i think i even dropped fuck in the first conversation i had with ursae and i think ursae and i at one point had a

conversation about being the last man at the keg like that is a conversation that me and ursae had had early on in my career he didn't start talking to me until i got arrested in trouble and he came over and he wanted to check on me because he's been through his demons as well and that's literally like how our friendship started is after that and me and vinatieri were the only people you'd come talk to and we would literally talk to him as if he was just like a regular guy and i don't think anybody talks to him as if he's just a regular dude right i would assume the same with like saban urban meyer all these people that he's friends with nobody talks to him as if they're regular humans because it's tough to

because you feel as if you're going to offend somebody or something's going to happen. You have so much respect for people, you don't want to step on their toes. But normally those fluff conversations with those types of people, they've had four million of those. So as soon as somebody has a genuine interest in them, and I think that is the way people are. Some people don't like the small talk. Some people aren't that interested in learning about other people i am somebody that's

very curious about everything i would like to learn everything about everything there's people that are not like that at all like they and i think he's genuinely just a super curious guy so whenever he gets a chance to ask a question he does it and i think that opens doors for him because the respect everybody has for him is awesome. That's not normal. And I think even beyond that, I think, and maybe I don't want people to think I'm exaggerating here out of some kind of hero worship thing or something. I just, that's the first time I've heard the guy speak, to be honest. And he has something that's very special. It's beyond, like, plenty of people are good on TV.

It goes beyond that. Like, he's a person that can move worlds with his words. There are very few people on this planet that can paint a picture like he does. Like Richard Pryor, remember, could get that way sometimes. But it's like watching a movie because he puts so much emotion behind every word. And it's with pinpoint accuracy that you can't even speak almost. You're just captivated. We said, so we do our interviews via FaceTime. It is a groundbreaking, trailblazing move in the podcast world.

It really is. It really is. I'm not sure there's other people just doing FaceTimes. That's what we do. We just FaceTime people. And about 30 minutes in every single time, they freeze. 29 minutes and like 47 seconds is how long FaceTimes last for us. And then they freeze.

And then we got to call back. And every time we call back, we always have like a quick conversation about the human we're having conversation with because we're off air and dig said while we're off air he goes it sounds like he means literally everything he says too like it's not like a he's a genuine he's exactly he's a genuine dude very genuine genuine guy i don't know i felt i felt inspired the entire time you know we weren't really he wasn't even trying to inspire us. He was just talking. Bro, he's at a Starbucks, bro.

He's at a Starbucks. And I meant it. I was inspired when we talked to Tebow, but it felt like Tebow was actually like trying to inspire us. Like it was like what he was doing. You think he was attempting to uplift our lives. Correct. Marty was just talking, and I felt that.

Tebow looked at us, and we're like, these guys need some help. Tebow's a good guy, dude. I like Tebow a lot. But Marty's awesome, man. You can tell he's just an incredible journalist, too. Just like the questions he can ask without coming off as like kind of short-sighted or like over someone's head. Like they just seem like very introspective and like easy to understand. So it's one of those things where, and I attempt to do it with every human I talk to.

Once you can like break i talk to once you can like break through early if you can break through early with somebody that's massive you know it's like if you can get somebody to get their walls down early you can get a lot more out of them right you listen to a lot of interviews a lot of conversations people are trying to break down the barrier with the person for the first five minutes so the questions they're asking are strictly just to get them to kind of relax so they can get more out of them. With him, it very much feels as if, and it might be, you know what? And I wonder if anybody ever told him he should change the way he speaks.

That southern draw, as soon as you hear it, you're just like, oh, this guy's awesome. Like this is something you don't hear on TV, by the way. There's not a lot of sports people with a deep southern draw. You don't hear that. You don't hear that at all. So I think the way he speaks and then his accent and just the way he comes off, he's so relatable, likable.

I think he probably just breaks through with people very quickly. I think you're very right. I mean, it's almost seductive, his accent. But then also you just kind of, I don't know, you're just almost hypnotized. It stuck out to me when he said he was a writer and that started to make sense to me because he speaks the way most writers write because that's the only form of communication or medium they're great at he's able to put his words into inflection in his voice that makes you like he's writing it almost when he said uh euphoric yes i was just like jesus christ i'll tell you what that draw hasn't said that word a lot.

And I'm saying that with a guy who has a pretty big yinzer accent. There's a lot of words that old yinzers use. That is no disrespect at all. It's just not what you – it's just a different dialect. It's a different way of speaking, and he's talented, man. I like him a lot. That whole college football seminar was insane. Them giving me the microphone, 15 seconds of walking into that place. It had to feel pretty cool, man. I like him a lot. That whole college football seminar was insane. Them giving me the microphone, 15 seconds of walking into that place.

Had to feel pretty cool, though. Did it? Well, I mean, maybe not at the moment, but looking back, you've been there for one day and they trusted you to just fucking kick off this thing with all of their talent. It was in the Sports Business Journal. They wrote an article about it. They were like, ESPN had their college football seminar summit, their annual summit their annual blah blah blah and then they like bullet points on what happened pat mcafee kicked off the seminar with his unique brand of humor what they wanted to say was he dropped a mother

but you know what i mean though but i'm thinking like the business journal whoever was in the room that was leaking information or if they were actually there, I have no idea. I don't know how it's... That person probably thought that was planned. Like, oh, we announced Pat yesterday. Got a big pop. Okay, today it's just like his welcome thing.

I had no idea. Do you think that was because of the engagement and everything you got on Twitter, all the love? People that are listening to the show, you guys are outrageously awesome, man. I mean, it's true. He complimented the following here. We are a very lucky bunch because every side conversation I had with a lot of people there

was about building up people's social media, right? So a lot of people come up to me and talk to me about, hey, I want to do more on social media, but I'm scared. A lot of people are scared of it, by the way. A lot of people are very scared of social media because i think you hear about the horror stories and then maybe they'll get a couple tweets calling them douches or like this guy's terrible or this girl's bad or something like that and that dane cook had a pretty good tweet actually today and i never thought in my life i would say this like hey dane cook i big fan of s's bk lounge listen i've been

there since the beginning i've been supporting dane cookane Cook, as did most of America there for a while. So I'm a fan. And I also saw him in that movie where Kevin Costner murders people. Mr. Brooks, yeah. That one. That was the only movie on in a hotel. I've seen that movie three, four times. Employee of the Month, pretty funny too.

Yep. He works at a cash register or something. Yeah, Stockboy. I've seen that movie three, four times. Employee of the Month, pretty funny too. Yep. He works at a cash register or something. Yeah, Stockboy. I've seen the trailers. Good luck, Chuck. That's a wedding movie. Everyone that he dates, they get married right after they break up with him. Story of a lot of our lives.

That was funny. Yeah. I was like four for four at one point. Pretty relatable movie anyways um so dane cook tweeted today anyone that thinks they can have a lifetime of success without some petty bullshitters droves of internet informed naysayers fucking idiots on the sidelines telling you why you are unsuccessful i, get out there and show us what you got. It's a grind. Put the work in. So basically, I think he was saying in an

interesting fashion, like, hey, everybody is going to have people come after them on the internet. Just so you got dummies everywhere. I mean, it's just the way it goes. Look at it as a society. There's dummies in every society. And I think not a lot of people drive their social media. It's a one-way conversation. It's people talking to them. It's not them talking out. So all they hear is the negative shit because they never put anything out. So I think it's kind of scared some people.

But every conversation people have with me was about social media. And I just want to say to the people that listen to this and the people that follow us on the internet, I am so thankful. I do not take it for granted at all. I am very, very very very lucky to have the following that i have and that our company has it's a cool thing we have a cool little community here and a lot of people ask how it happens and i'm just like honestly i couldn't

even tell you other than like you just gotta spend a lot of time on your phone. You just got to spend a lot of time on your phone and your observations of things should be either informative, relatable or entertaining. And then that's it. And then you just let it go and just let it eat. And you might suck for a little bit. You might lose followers at the beginning because of the whole like, Oh,

this guy's tweeting too much thing, but you'll find your crowd. And then whenever you do that, it's a lot of fun. And I think everybody is now starting to really try to take it in. And it was kind of cool to have those conversations with people who I look up to coming up to me like, hey, how do you do this? Honestly, I have no idea.

I just have a cool group of humans behind our operation out there. And that fucking video announcing that we're going to do play-by-play had 1.1 million views in less than 20 hours. Unbelievable. That's insane. It's awesome. It is absolutely awesome. But it is funny listening to people be like, how'd you do that?

I'm like, bro, I just, I mean, first of all, this is what you got to do. You got to get on the NFL substance of abuse. Got to get in the program. They're going to test you eight times a month for 27 months. They're literally going to suck and extract all of the fun out of your life that you knew for basically the last five years of your life. Just take it all out of there. They're going to make you not be able to hang out with your friends

because when you hang out with your friends, if you're normally the guy that drinks a lot and you're with a group of friends, and you can't drink at all, it's an interesting dynamic. So you don't really want to be, you don't want to bring down other people's nights, so you just go ahead and lock yourself in your house, go ahead and shut all the windows,

and you can turn TV on in the background, but just go to work on your phone, and after 200 and some drug tests later, you'll probably have, you'll have a pretty good following and then you just got to kind of expand on that. But it is a real thing. I view our following as like a family.

It's like a team. Every time I send something, I always say team because that's what we really are a team and I hope more people start to embrace it. I really do because it's a fucking weapon. It is.

You hear a lot of people though at the CSPN thing. It was interesting to hear that. There's a lot of like fear on It is. You hear a lot of people, though, at this ESPN thing. It was interesting to hear that. There's a lot of fear, almost, in social media. Not fear, but a negative... Apprehension. Yeah. It's like, because they've all had probably bad experiences.

Well, you said it before, too. There are always naysayers that look at you and go, well, he has that following because he punted in the NFL. No, there are... How many other punters in the NFL have been since you've played? Look at their followers and look at the difference. Like you put in the work. You reached out and you connected with people.

That is real. Look at wide receivers in the NFL too, if you want. Pretty much anyone. Yeah, like stud skill position players that get a lot of prime time views and everything still don't have that type of follow. I felt good because that was back whenever they were pushing all these athletes for being funny on Twitter and they just refused. The company I work for now refused to push me But here we are

They're all so nice to me man There was a lot of people there that were like we wanted you years ago like there was people that were like There was one guy who said I've been following you since any reference something. I did like five years ago He was like you did this and he said it i forget what it was it was something very niche and he was like when i saw that and i saw you were a professional athlete i was like this guy's gonna be a pretty good follow and i've been with you for five years i'm like thanks man i appreciate it he's like i tried to get you here but i mean we're excited to have you well it's nice to know some people there get it yeah or got

it a lot of people it's a lot of people when i walked into that cafeteria though man oh i never felt weirder i'm fucking 32 years old i am not dealing with this i literally got a tea i made a tea in front of everybody so they had like the coffee decaf coffee hot water i'm not a coffee guy i'm a tea I'm a energy guy I'm a beep energy guy none of those in the hotel in the thing so I was like I guess I'll just go with the Earl Grey my guy Earl Mr. Grey and I used to have a relationship before I got this we'll just hope it'll work out so now I'm just standing in front of all these people making my tea it's like the front of the it's like I'm on a stage making my tea I accidentally dropped the fucking uh the Splendid thing oh i'm looking at you kicked it under the table pick up i had to and i just went out in the lobby and hung up on myself it was awesome it's gonna be a cool fall man we have a

much larger and i mean thursday night football primetime college football is a hell of an honor it's especially now even more so after what i know now like I'm very lucky to get the job that I got. I mean, a lot of people laugh very hard about like, you made a real push for that Monday night football job. And I was like, I was like, yeah.

And then once I started looking around the room, I was like, that was probably a bit, probably a bit aggressive. I'm looking around people that are like, I've been there for like 25 years. But none of them held it against me, which is good.

But it's massive. I'm very lucky to have that. And we're going to enjoy it. And I'm going to try to change... A lot of things were being said, and then my producer would look at me and be like, not all of that is for you, though. And I'm like, okay, well,

is there a guy that's going to be talking to me up here? Can I get some private instruction about what pertains to me? No, I think they very much view. They're like, I think they get it. I think everybody gets it. They're like, let's see if Pat, Matt, Adam, Molly, and a producer named Boiler. His name's Brian Boyle. They call him Boiler. Boiler up.

Good guy. Did Wimbledon a couple weeks ago. He's the guy that's going to be doing my shows. Done very well. Very well. Did good. Shout out to Joe Kovic. If Roger Federer worked out in the offseason, he would have won. Did he do the camera shot to Woody Harrelson? Probably.

Great call. Good guy. This guy's talented talented you can tell he's been around but he literally everybody in there was basically like hey i think we're gonna try like we're gonna try like hey we're gonna try to make this like uh we're gonna try this make a new viewing experience almost that's what it feels like like hey there's rules here right like this is what we have to do can't talk over this this. Got to do this. Lay off of this. They gave me guidelines. But there's a lot of like, hey, we very much hired you to be you. And that's awesome, by the way.

WWE did the same thing, which nobody thought would happen. ESPN is basically doing the same thing. We want you to be you out there. I thought one of the funnier things of that interview was you talking about how crazy Marty was for thinking he could write a book during his football season what he's doing wait until people hear what you're doing and I thought in my head I was like he thinks Marty's fucking crazy yeah our fall is gonna be a busy one man it's and that's let's get back there is a bigger announcement somehow there is a much larger announcement just life-altering this one is a very

much a life-altering announcement that was actually in the works before this espn the espn one came in like a four-day whirlwind and we had to announce it because of this college football seminar that i was going to we knew it would get out there so literally the very high up in espn we're trying to figure out like how they wrote out the announcement because it was all happening like 72 hours they said that there was an email with schaefter and a couple other people that were like schaefter is like i i want to write for the brand in there that's like his thing you know and because it was an announcement of a new hire so he had to get it okayed right that? That's something he had to get.

Schefter can't just make an announcement for Disney, basically. So he had to get it okayed, you know? And he was like, in the email, he's like, I want to put for the brand in there. And then one exec was like, what does that mean? And then they're like, oh, just Google it. So they had to watch me yelling at my team. So they settled on for our brand.

They were like, here's a meat in the middle. But it was just like, it had to happen because it all happened so fast. And I had to get to Charlotte for this thing, which I'm very happy I did. I learned a lot about a lot. So I literally had to be at that thing. But the life altering thing has been happening. It's been in the works for like a month or two now. And it happened all from back when me and Foxy went on the world tour,

just shaking hands everywhere, meeting people. And we've, we fell into this incredible batch of humans who have a lot of faith in us. By the way, these humans have a lot of faith in us. And I said on the rich eyes and show that nobody wanted me exclusively. Everybody liked me. Nobody wanted me exclusively. Everybody liked me.

Nobody wanted me exclusively. My agents called and told me like, hey, we didn't let anybody get you exclusively. I was like, oh, I thought nobody, they were like, no, you fucking idiot. Yes, everybody wanted you exclusively. I'm like, oh, so I gotta change the lingo? They're like, please.

I was like, all right, all right. So we have a couple more massive announcements coming that I am so lucky and thankful. And it's not just me, by the way. It's all of us. The boys and I are about to have a big fall. We're about to have a awesome fall. And a lot of people have tweeted me.

They're like, is the podcast going to leave now because you're doing Thursday Night Football? It's like, no, I think we're adding one. I think we're adding one. And the guests we're going to be able to get for this now are about to be legendary we're about to get a hilarious batch of humans and then the studio is about to get an entire hgtv makeover let's go people are about to really invest in us and i cannot wait i am so so thankful and excited, but boy, if I survive past

November, I think we're doing it. I think we really did well. It's going to be a real test of how far can you push a human body? Pat, your former special teams coach came out today and said you're the hardest worker he's ever coached with. Pat McAfee just joined ESPN.

Any thoughts on how he is as an analyst and worked with him? Pat will do a great job. You know, everybody looks at Pat and says, Pat's really a funny guy, this, that, the other. And Pat is, you know, I'm going to give him that credit. But I'm going to tell you this, the best thing about Pat, he's the hardest working guy I've ever worked with,

ever, on the football field. You know, that guy is a worker. So God bless him and I wish him the best. That was awesome, by the way. Nick tweeted out the video, and a couple of people tweeted it to me, so I had seen it. I'd seen the quote. A couple of people tweeted the quote to me. A couple of Denver media who didn't follow me tweeted me the quote.

So I was like, that's interesting. What did you want me to do? You just want me to retweet you there? I don't know. And it was at the end of his press conference tom mcmahon was the coach for the colts he's the one who really got me to become like a a weapon on the football field i mean he's the one who's uh was a part he was the one coaching me during the pro bowls he was the one coaching me during the onside kicks he was the one coaching me during the things now granted a lot of those

were potentially my call but he was the one that was really like in the practice days like really grinding my ass and doing more film study than any human i've ever seen in my entire literally i thought he was on meth for a while i didn't i didn't think he slept because he would watch i would get a text from him like 1 30 a.m like patty i think i got something for you tomorrow and i'm like get there like 6 a.m and he's like clicking on i think i'm like did you say oh it something for you tomorrow. And I'm like, get there at like 6 a.m. And he's like clicking on the thing. I'm like, did you sleep? He's like, oh, I slept here last night. I'm like, do you do it all the time? He's like, yeah, mostly during the season I sleep here.

And I'm like, you're awesome. So he's a guy that set me up for real success in a kicking game. He had been with the Chiefs. He'd been with the Falcons. He's been around the league a long time. And he's this tiny little guy. And he and I, he just knew, he and I had a great we had a great relationship and he motivated me like a lot and whenever you motivate me normally i'll get going like normally i'll get going if

you can paint the picture for me right if you can be like hey this is what's possible for you okay let's put a plan together on how we get there normally i'm not going to stop until i get there right like that's if i can see the plan if I can be like okay this is all I have to do to get to here I will execute that and that compliment that's one of the best compliments I've ever received in my entire life from Tom McMahon what he said in that press conference

I'm going to send him a text he's probably watching film I won't get back he won't text me back until January or February but it was it was really cool and my dad texted me and he said, that's what we do. He said, that's what we do. It's real though.

It is. And I said this a couple of weeks on the show. It's not easy working here. It's not easy working for me, with me. It's not an easy thing. And it's not because I don't think I'm rude to anybody. It's just because literally every day, I am 100 miles an hour every day. And I don't think it's going to kill me.

That's why I know I'm going to die young. I know I'm going to die young. It's just science says that the way I act, I am going to die young. This is the way it goes. But boy, we're going to enjoy the fuck out of the time that I'm here. Now that I know about the painting the picture thing, definitely just going gonna hang pictures of fucking islands in this yeah but you gotta draw the plan too that's where you will fall

i have to see the plan too and then as soon as you get me to go oh okay that's normally like for instance they said i don't know if i should be leaking this lee fitting the head guy at the reception whenever i was there with uh mingling with everybody he comes over to me and matt hasselbeck and we start talking i'm like hey i just want to let you know they put out odds that we're going to get a better rating than uh nfl and lee fitting looks at me he goes it's going to be a tall task but but he was like he said i said well whatever it is i'm gonna go for right it's plus 1500 too i mean people are gonna make halloween night wvu baylor i think it's denver cardinals

uh or something like niners cardinals niners cardinals which niners are big fan base and if jimmy g's hot which tracked like talking football we are we could potentially, because that could be Kyler Murray too. But yeah, so that could be devastating for us. But if things go mediocre for both of those teams there, which the Niners are probably gonna be great if Jimmy G is there, but let's say the Cardinals, if things are mediocre there,

WVU plays Baylor in Baylor on Halloween night. I think that is the night that we set up as like the mega bowl from semi pro. Like, you know what I mean? Tonight we are giving away a car during the broadcast. You know what I mean?

Like, I think that is something like that's the one we should set up because all you do, I just got to beat them in ratings one time. Right. So it's got to get them one time, just once. And I guess that's going to be a tall task is what I was told,

but I'm going to go for it. But they were like, yeah, think of ideas. You should be thinking of ideas during the game and texting him. You could text him to me if you want a tall task is what I was told. But I'm going to go for it. But they were like, yeah, think of ideas. You should be thinking of ideas during the game and texting them. You can text them to me if you want, he said. And I was like, I'm probably not going to do that. We can wrestle a bear. I just want to like, hi, Jackie Moon.

But I honestly, I was like, I don't know if I'm going to text you. He was like, any idea you have, man, you should text him. And we should talk about him. He was like, SportsCenter, too, is at 6 o''clock maybe you do a live hit thorn sports center to pitch and i'm like oh we can really do like that he's like yeah if you have ideas just pitch them and if the worst thing that can happen is you can turn down is what he said the worst thing that could happen is we say no can't do that right so it was like everybody from very high up in the company was basically like for me and matt like hey you guys just let's let's do it like you guys just do whatever you need to do and i'm assuming they're like that with everybody but it felt so

it was very welcoming up there i can only imagine you kind of promo for that game from the tailgate where the students are oh my god live on sports center oh oh yeah and they get they have the equipment obviously to really set that up to look yeah cool. All the places we're going, there's a couple places we're going that haven't had game day. So I think it's, if I'm going live from a tailgate before the game and me and Matt are going live from a tailgate,

I think the way we rile them up is like, hey, earn game day here. It is hit. Earn game day here, right? So then I'm in the middle of a, hopefully a pretty ruckus crowd and it's like hey tonight at this place it's going to be insane i think it's going to be insane i'm watching and we are

going to have a good time so if that other game that's on tv gets a little boring gets a little lol just go ahead and check us out here and if we get them we got to keep them that's the only thing and i'm i'm gonna have to watch the nfl game directly afterwards because i have obviously something that's going to happen the next day that's pretty large. But I am excited for this moment and these opportunities, and I'm excited to share this with you guys. I'm excited to share this draft.

We're excited to be a part of this. I told – they asked me – a couple people who didn't fully understand me, they were like, so what do you do? I was like, great question. I just make stuff on the internet basically. He's like, you make stuff on the internet? I'm like, yeah, I got like 12 employees. We just make stuff on the internet basically He's like you make stuff on the internet I'm like yeah I got like 12 employees We just make stuff on the internet

You have 12 employees Yeah They're like who are they I'm like oh there's like my boys And my dad and my brother Also my boys but yeah And they're like So you just brought your boys along

I was like yeah I mean we had it a few A couple years ago A couple guys from my hometown We've kind of gelled well i said not everybody fits in we hang out a lot but we just make stuff on the internet basically he's like that's the dream i was like yeah just wait until we make the announcements that's the dream that's the dream that's coming it's uh i'm very excited and now time for a reading by Zito. Thanks, Pat.

Hold on. I would like this to be said before we get started. This is not really a read ad for him. It's supposed to be a conversation one. So we've very much thrown him into the deep end, much like that guy that hit that wave at that wave pool. Oh, tsunami. Sent a tsunami into a public park pool. That is kind of what we did to Zito right here.

I was very scared of that wave pool whenever I was a kid, by the way. I'm not a big water guy. Good time. Great time there. I never really got in the water much. Why do they have that setting? That's a great question. I don't know, but somebody got to it.

If you haven't seen the video, go check that out, because that's what we've done to Zito here. Sam has been listening. Oh, no. What's she been thinking? She says that she feels as if you potentially got worse. Well, let's just tell her this. This is a discussion.

So it's a little harder. I'm going to be reading at the wedding. I'm not going to be discussing. Hey, I think we might. You're not going to be discussing. Can we get that in written contract? That you will not discuss. You will not stray from the script.

Okay. I respect that. I can't wait for whoever like marries us and now a reading everybody in the audience is gonna have a moment if it happens by the way you got to get it uh the approval come on see this is the one that's gonna get you over the hump i think the last couple have not been great i'm gonna be honest last one, you failed on the first word somehow. I don't even know how it happened.

You stumbled out of the blocks pretty hard, but then you kind of found it. They were loose blocks, by the way. Loose blocks. The guy wasn't stepping on the blocks. He was not stepping, yeah. Yeah, I understand that. It looked like that, but not this time.

This time is when you, hey, your next read is your best read. Let's go. There is three different colors on here, so I don't know what color is your best read. Let's go. There is three different colors on here, so I don't know what color I'm sticking with. It's color coded. No excuses. No excuses. Play like a champion. Today. Thank you.

Or now. I'm going to discuss why bird dogs are so good. Can't wait. I'm going to explain to you why bird dogs are so good. Please do. They are gym shorts built in with silky soft inner lining that makes underwear obsolete. Oh, good word by you, Zito.

Yeah, it comes with it, basically. Oh, it's actually in the shorts. Yeah, poop catchers. I don't know if that's what they would like it to be referred to as. They told me to go off script. They told me to go off script. They knew that you were going to be reading it. But bird dogs have the inner lining built in.

But it's not the uncomfortable inner lining from back in the day. It's like the best fabric. It's Mercedes. It is. It really is. Nice. I love them. It is finally short season, which means it is bird dog season.

You're damn right. Oh, yeah. I'm going to talk about how comfortable they are. Please do. I'm going to tell you. We're at the pool the other day. So comfy. Thanks for telling us how comfortable they are.

It actually is. You can actually use them in every single situation, working out, walking around. Swimming them. Swimming them. You can swim in them. You can go into a meeting with them on. Oh, yeah. You can do a podcast with them on. Play video games with them on. Oh, yeah. You could do a podcast with them on.

Play video games with them on. You could play video games with 14, 15 people watching. Sometimes 18. Really? Yeah, maybe 30. I don't know. Really? We've been booming.

Business is booming. Everybody's heard about that Fortnite kid winning $3 million. And they just want to go check out twitch.tv forward slash the Pat McAfee show. A man spends six to seven hours a night on there with a good 30 to 10 friends on a nightly basis. And we are on the road to the 2020 Fortnite World Cup. Yeah, we are. Where Zito is going to bury a teenager and win millions of dollars. Can you imagine me just yelling suck it to him?

I don't know if Fortnite would like that. They probably would not. But it would be a good clip. Hey, content is content. Speaking of content, when you win that, what are you going to be wearing? Oh, bird dogs, obviously. How come? Because they are very comfortable and they keep me dry. And also, if you buy bird dogs right now, what do they also send you?

Oh, let me tell you right now. They give you some nunchucks. What was it? Nunchucks. Nailed it the second time. You got to read the room. A mulligan. I think they're pretty cool orange nunchucks, too. If I saw them, I think someone sent us a picture. A lot of people have sent us a picture of their nunchucks,

and they seem as if they are practice nunchucks and war nunchucks. They have like a little soft to them so you don't really hurt yourself, but if you need to hurt somebody else, they can do that. I think they are just like the shorts they're all trained nunchucks good for any type of situation just like the shorts they're bruce lee-esque yeah yeah yeah go to birddogs.com enter promo code america and they'll grow they'll throw a pair of nunchucks like we were just talking about earlier yeah you heard that right nunchucks they'll give you an actual weapon along with your pair of bird dogs that's birddogs.com promo code america and boom a free pair of nunchucks with your pair of

dogs you will not take these things off i promise you suck it best one maybe ever i think ever yeah you had to discuss too i mean you don't have to exactly read, like, when they say explain something. Yeah. I don't think. Maybe you get around, like, I'm going to explain. Yeah, yeah. Because I think those are in parentheses. They're like my bulletins.

Marks. Bullet points. Bullet points, yeah. Yeah, bulletins as well, if you want to just kind of put them up on, like, a tack board or whatever. Yeah. Up there. Big bulletin guy. Yeah, you are. I think so so i'm a big bird dog guy i wear them all the time i have become a big time and i don't want to say it's because it's kind of a lazy situation but it really is you can put them on and just lounge around the house and then if you got to go out

and collect some food that's been delivered to you you can go outside with that you've got to run to the pharmacy to get some milk or eggs because you're making keto cookies you can do that you just take off the tank top you're in bed you can go in the pool you can work out they're very nice it all plays it all plays i was wearing bird dogs whenever i stared down a pterodactyl my back so you can fucking bird watch wow and bird hmm everybody ever think about that and dog watch both of them let's get back to the show right it's your first walk off of the day i like what you did there with the bird dogs yeah yeah get it It's all part of the bulletin board.

Material. Immaterial. Anything happen in sports? There was that whole LeBron controversy. It wasn't a controversy. Did you see Nate Burrow's video? I loved his response. He didn't say it.

He literally got 3,000 retweets in like 20 minutes. Every tweet around that whole thing got 3,000 retweets. Hey, Bron Bron moves the needle. You might as well just shut down the fucking internet if he's getting on the court of this kid's game. You might as well just shut down. You might as well not tweet. You might as well not post Bron Bron moves the needle.

I don't have a problem with it. I know you probably hate it, Diggs. I like it a lot and mostly because i enjoy that type of reaction in the competitive field i think that everything has gotten too sterile like i think in competition it's a it's a emotional thing and so not just bron bron doing that but like i enjoy when people celebrate goals i enjoy when people celebrate touchdowns i enjoy when people have a good time and on the flip side i enjoy when people celebrate goals i enjoy when people celebrate touchdowns i enjoy when people have a good time and on the flip side i enjoy when people are mad there was a video from jets practice where that wide receiver got hit i could not believe that was

not a fight just as somebody who has sat on the sidelines of a lot of those practices as soon as you see something like that it is almost immediate scrum not even let's not say a fight because everybody's so tired they don't want to actually fight but at least there's a scrum there was no scrum there and i was like wait a minute and now i'm like i'm two years out do i not understand the current culture where it's like no emotion is better and it almost feels like that's kind of the case because if you show too much emotion like lebron you're egotistical selfish looking for attention and if you show no emotion you don't LeBron, you're egotistical, selfish, looking for attention. And if you show no emotion, you don't care.

So it's like there's no winning anymore, really, with the judgment of your peers on the internet and social media, which I could see this being the downfall. So that's why I enjoy when people just go out and fucking let it rip. Honestly, just let it rip. Him getting on the court, is it too much? I would assume. I wouldn't do it. But I love that he did. and if i was in that gym i would be hey lebron just went on the fucking court he lost his shoe

yeah he lost his shoe on the court like that's that's what sports are though like you can't compare them to surgery like i think people compare them to other very real serious things it's like sports are competition sports are are a celebration. Sports are fun. If that happens, just let it ride, man. Who cares? Well, you know, I'm the same as you in that aspect that I fucking love celebrating. I love all that shit.

I just didn't like, I thought if he is celebrating that hard, if he's doing it in the stands, fucking fine. I just didn't like him going on the court because I made him about himself. Oh, you're saying he took the attention away from his kid who just had an incredible alley-oop. Yeah, and then he was in the line, fucking layup line, with the team doing fucking dunks pregame.

It's not your team. Yeah, but you don't think that's like dreams for the kids? Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm sure they love it. Yeah, that's like their dream. Well, if they love it, who cares? Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, if they love it, who cares?

Like that white kid he shot threes against? Yeah, that was awesome. That kid will tell that story for the rest of his life. And people are like, oh, he almost loses that kid. It's like, who gives a fuck? The kid that he's shooting with there will tell that story forever. Imagine if Tom Brady shows up

at his kid's peewee football practice and he starts throwing goes to kids at practice. Are people going to come after him for doing that because LeBron's doing alley-oops? I saw this argument going around. That exact argument was on Twitter. People were having that debate. And people started to spin it and say,

well, I mean, Tom's helping the receivers get better then. Oh, because he's only breaking the hoop. Yeah. Yeah, because nobody can do what Bron does in the air. So he even has to throw an alley-oop. I felt bad for the other team, though, when he went on there. Like, how do you think the other kids look down the court and they see LeBron dunking down the other end?

They're like, oh. I think as soon as you see that roster and it says Bronny on it, you're probably like, well, I'm fucked anyway. I hope LeBron shows up at the game, though, I'd assume. I hope they're like, yeah, maybe I'll get a picture with LeBron. Remember, this is arguably the greatest player of all time. And I said arguably just because I don't want to get in that conversation on Twitter, in here, ever. Just because it's dumb to even do that. Two very different styles.

It's two different basketballs. Exactly. It's not even the same sport. It's two different basketballs. Do I think LeBron, if he played back then being 6'8", 260 pounds, do well? I would assume. Guy that could dunk from the foul line with probably 30 more pounds on top of him and two more inches than the guy we're referring to.

I would assume LeBron could play back then, but he didn't. Jordan did dominate back then, so we can't have the conversation. Can't. Can't have the conversation. Can't do it. So arguably the greatest player of all time. We know your relationship with Scottie Pippen, too. We don't want to get anywhere near that either.

Well, listen. Scottie carried the game. Good golfer. Great golfer. People don't want to get anywhere near that either. Well, listen. Scotty carried the game. Good golfer. Great golfer. People talk about that. When I'm around, Scotty Pippen plays his best. Me and Michael Jordan.

Scotty Pippen. What if he starts inviting you to a bunch of golfing events? I need you. I need you, Pat. I've seen him at a bunch of golf events. I have not got a signal. J.R. Smith will comment

on my Instagrams every once in a while. That makes you feel good. That makes you feel pretty good. He's an OG. And I respond underneath with cry face emojis. I don't fully understand how to work the relationship with J.R. Smith. Because I think we know each other, but I'm not sure.

I think he sees me as one particular way. I'm not sure. I don't know where we're at. So I'll just continue liking his shit until he comes on the show. And then when he comes on the show, I think we'll get, you know. But I'm a big fan of J.R. Smith, the way he operates his life. But Scotty Pippen is not inviting me to anything.

But LeBron, arguably greatest player of all time. So when he's at these events, these are literal forever stories for everybody in the gym. I was there whenever LeBron did that, because you're not just talking, and I think this is almost, because he does the Taco Tuesday,

and he does the barbershop thing where he opens up and he's very active on social media. He's humanized himself somehow, even though he is an alien, right? So people are judging him amongst other humans where LeBron is not another. He is the greatest basketball player of all time. Yes, he is a human. Yes, he shits the same as us.

But he is the greatest of all time. He's a billionaire from sports, and he's been famous since he's like 14 years old. This is a whole different animal of a human, so I don't think comparing him to another dad is even a smart decision at all. I think if his shoe stays on,

it's a non-story. Yeah, that shoe falling off. A little Zion situation there. Do we have issues with the bronze there? I think a player stepped on it. That's what happened. I like the purple shoes, by the way. Oh, yeah, I like those phone off Louis Ion situation there. Yeah, do we had issues with the bronzer? I think a player stepped on it That's what happened. I like the purple shoes by the way. Oh, yeah. I like those too. I thought to myself I normally don't do that. I am a all-white all-black shoe wearer. I am a very clean dresser I don't like a lot of things happening. I used to not be I used to be loud then Frank Lucas told me The loudest in the room, the weakest in the room.

So then I started dressing a lot cleaner. Like, listen, I'll just let my brain and my words do the work. I don't need to costume to do so. Even though I wear jorts somewhere. That's regular for me. But those purple shoes, I thought I looked at them. I was like, I think I'd wear those purple shoes. And then I saw it on the floor.

I was like, looks pretty good off the foot. I enjoyed that. Anything in training camps happening? The NFL starts tonight. First preseason games tonight. Hall of Fame games tonight? Yeah. Let's go. Who's in it? The Denver Broncos and the Atlanta Falcons. That's awesome. I got invited to

the Hall of Fame by the NFL Legends community. On one of your texts or email? Dear NFL Legends, would you like to RSVP To Hall of Fame I don't know what they called it They called it like a

Fuck Like a cocktail No Reception A reception in Canton And then I would have tickets To the thing or whatever And I didn't RSVP

But I read the email I felt good being invited But the Hall of Fame game now That is the biggest tease In the history of fame game now that is the biggest tease in the history of the world the history of the world everybody feels the same way you watch the first three plays and then you're like all right we're ready for regular football to start yeah that's the way it is but i do love that there's live action going on tonight and i'll i'll be tweeting it for sure oh yeah 100 i'll be watching the whole damn thing it'll be terrible

football nobody has a clue what to do especially the people that are on the team might as well just put an all-star team out there might as well be the college football all-stars playing against you nobody knows what to do there's because in football and this was talked about a lot the general talked about what football meant to him and he was talking about how he said this is no offense to basketball so anytime somebody leads off of that you know there's a shot following immediately he's like you can have one or two guys that are good and your team will be good or great he said in football if you have a great quarterback or a great left tackle or a great wide receiver if you don't have everything else you're pretty fucked and that's

what preseason football is. There's like a couple people that are very good, and then all you need is one leaky sieve of a right guard, and that guy just lets up everything. You could have the greatest running back on earth, but if he's getting hugged by a seventh-round draft pick from LSU in literally the backfield

every single time because your right guard who went to some very small school can't keep up it's like you got no hope and you know what the coaches can't do they can't sub you out because you got nobody else so it's like hey this is our world now yeah for the rest of this game our right guard is going to give up 45 sacks so it's because we can't sub them out we can't put the starter back in we don't want to hurt anybody so this is our life now so let's go put the quarterback in shotgun hope he just run for his life oh the quarterback isn't a mobile quarterback.

Oh, we didn't fucking plan for this. That is literally what preseason football is. It never stops. And I'll watch it just because it's football and I'm so happy it's back. But man, all it does to me every year is just like, oh, I can't wait for, man, I can't wait for a guy

to throw the ball 85 yards to a guy. Like fucking Patrick Mahomes throwing the ball 85 yards. Man, I can't wait to watch a D tackle hit like a a fucking double team that he just barrels through and like i can't wait to watch the greats be great but i'm happy football's back uh michael thomas got 100 million 60 million guaranteed held out too yeah i enjoy when a holdout works normally what happens in these holdout situations is the agent talks to the team and teams like we're not signing a deal until he comes back he comes back we'll sign a deal and they normally do within like the

next two or three days but that's kind of the agreed upon thing like hey he comes back we'll make a deal in a couple days he actually was like no i'm literally not coming back until you sign me and they're like all right we'll give you the biggest just come dude drew brees is throwing a ball at blow up people so impressive So impressive. We need Michael Thomas. If we can get you back here, that'd be great. With the crosses on the face and the Jordans on the feet. Here's $100 million. Whatever we need to get you back in this place, that'd be great.

That's awesome for him. Zeke and Melvin Gordon still holding out. Yeah, Zeke went to Cabo. You know what? I think it's time to take a trip to Mexico. Boys are in the military. What did Jerry just say? Jerry said you don't need a top rusher to take a trip to Mexico. Boys are in the middle of training camp. What did Jerry just say? Jerry said you don't need a top rusher to win a Super Bowl?

Well, fuck it. I'll go to Mexico. Power move. He's doing the Lev move. That was Ryan Jetski's. Hey, Zeke. I think Zeke has a good argument here. Anytime you watch Dallas Cowboys,

the only conversation before the game is can they stop zeke and then during the game they're like if zeke gets going this team's gonna win and then if zeke gets going they normally win and if you're a running back just getting shots to the head into the ribs and the shoulder and you know you're the guy it's like hey man i would like my money with that being said he gets himself in some dumb situations this is is just like when Johnny Manziel was young. I wanted to tell him, like, hey, you're in Cleveland. Just buy a big house and just party at your house and just take cell phones from everybody when they come in.

You have enough money to do that, and you're going to blow through all your money for sure. By the way, probably not with the Manziel family, but I'm talking about the NFL. Get a big house and just party at your house. Don't party in public. Just party at your house. That's almost in public. Just party at your house. That's almost what I want to tell Zeke.

Like, hey, I know it can be tempting to go to Las Vegas. Been there, done that. Much smaller scale, obviously, than you. But dude, if you just party at your house for just like four or five more years, you'll be able to do whatever you want. Because a lot of people like to have a good time. Like, I think I respect the fact that Zeke likes to go have a good time,

even though he's a superstar. But whenever there's that much money on the line, you've got to remember, like, okay, I can't put myself in dumb situations all the time. Like, I just kind of may take a break from that. And I had to learn that from a hard way from an alleged incident. And I think everybody does. But Zeke, man, he's going to get a lot of fucking money.

He's like right there. He's a game changer. He's a real game changer he's a real game changer i'm excited to see what jerry jones does what a fucking savage business move by the way just to be another guy's holding out jerry wants him back bad yes he's like but he's just letting him you ain't never win a super bowl with a top hey i don't know if you guys are gonna write this in the paper the internet or if you're you're just going to text this to Zeke. But let that motherfucker know that I know that you can win a Super Bowl without a top rusher.

I mean, everybody's doing it every year. You just let him know that. And Zeke was like, well, fuck, I'm going Cabo. And what if he doesn't play all year? That'd be awesome. Why not? What if players just start holding out all year? Yeah, maybe it is the new move.

Thanks, love. I don't like it, by the way. That'd be a real shame if other fan bases had to experience that with their star running back sitting out an entire year. It'd be a real shame. Listen to the yinzers over there. He apologized to the fantasy football. Motherfuckers.

That was hilarious. I accepted it. That's who he's apologizing to. And not Pittsburgh. Nope. Oh. What? I don't know if this was the biggest news of the last couple days.

Maybe it was just in my mind. But Gruden talking very, very highly. I watch you. You posted this on Twitter. You were, I mean, that means my guy,

you were so jacked up. What do you say? I'm the Nathan, the Nate Peterman's growing on me. What did he say? He said, the Nate Peterman. That's all I know is he said,

the Nate Peterman. That's all I had to see. And I was like, this guy, our docs be great when is it's only a couple days right tuesday is it this day yeah herb street had an incredible quote he said i just need the reds to get me to hard knocks he's a cincinnati reds fan all that fight too he said i just need the reds to get me to hard knocks you know and then and then it's both but i just the reds get me to hard knocks and then I'm off and running. Herbstreit, by the way, he's a smooth man. He is a smooth man, smart

man, respected man down there. And he was asking some real questions whenever other people wouldn't ask real questions in the room. A lot of timid questions. That's why Marty got I think everybody was like excited for the questions. There was a lot of standard questions. Kirk Herbstreit, though, carries a lot of weight in the college football world.

He is basically the voice of college football. Friend of the show, by the way. Going to be back on the show probably on a pretty, not a regular basis, but we'll probably have him on a couple more times because he's so intelligent, and he is the voice of college football. So whenever he starts asking questions, it's like, oh, shit. That's another situation where everybody's like, oh, everybody shut oh everybody shut the fuck up herb treat wants to know something this is gonna be really good so then when the people answer though they're talking to the voice of college football so even if it's the refs answering

every the way they answer kirk is like is that okay with you you know what i mean because kirk is so well respected as he should be because the amount of work he puts in. They talked about his schedule, so we went through everybody's schedule and everything he does. It's awesome, man. He goes hard. It's what happens when he's on TV, too. When you hear his voice come on TV, I'm like,

all right, everyone shut up. I actually want to hear what Kirk is explaining here. Yeah, and he's another guy that can be relatable, but he is the pinnacle of college football. He is the guy. It was awesome hearing him talk out there. He's a good dude, great dude. Anyways, I think that's it.

I've been up since very early. Just like old Marty said, we had some beers the night before. I've had a long day. I was on a lot of vitamins put me to sleep and then i got called out of bed to go meet up with somebody that was with him so i was on cloud 45 when i walked in there so i didn't have as many beers as the others did but boy it was it was a cool night listening and meeting everybody that's where you meet everybody by the way it's like when you get on a football team locker room's cool but whenever you go out with each other or whenever you go get a dinner with somebody whenever you

drink with people is normally whenever you build up a real camaraderie and uh that was a cool moment cool scene everybody was so nice to me it made no sense dude it made no fucking sense i really thought everybody's gonna hate me with how big that video got how big that announcement got like i'm a fucking asshole coming in here and it was complete opposite everybody was going to hate me with how big that video got. How big that announcement got. Like, I'm a fucking asshole coming in here. And it was the complete opposite. Everybody was like, welcome to the team, man. So happy to have you. I'm like, thank you.

Thank you. I'm happy to be here. I'm legitimately happy to be here. That was what I ended the first speech with after the motherfucker. I was like, I am so honored to be here. I'm so thankful. This is a dream job.

I very much understand that. And you're all sitting down and I to be here. I'm so thankful. This is a dream job. I very much understand that. And you're all sitting down and I'm poking out. I can't imagine that a group of people would be very good at faking it either. Like if they thought this motherfucker shouldn't be here, you would be able to tell. There was, I guess, some people, some of the producers and directors are hilarious individuals. And it was hard to know. Everybody had to wear name tags with magnets by the way so you put it under the shirt over the shirt watching some of the analysts figure out

the magnet was kind of fun when i was sitting out there in the lobby watching people check in when i couldn't go in and eat because there's no seats i was just watching people check in watching them battle the magnet was awesome that was cool man but you see everybody's name but they don't have their job underneath so it's like you don't know exactly who they are what they are where they are what team they're on everything like that some of these producers are hysterical i walk up i'm like hi very nice to meet you i read their name off their chest and they would say oh great to see you man um i'm like everybody's been so nice and i'd be like oh yeah about a week and it's like so sly with it and i'm like yeah i've heard that from others and like yeah yeah the knives will be in the back quick anyways have fun here they're like fake walk off you know and i was like oh my

god i like start sweating they come back they're like yeah we're just fucking with you i'm like thank you so much because you just like the wwe right you hear terror and horror stories from the outside and then when you get in it's like hey man everybody seems to be pretty nice here this is a weird scene here this is weird because it's like, hey, man, everybody seems to be pretty nice here. This is a weird scene here. This is weird because it's not what I expected at all. Everybody's so nice. It's going to be a fun year, man, for all of us. We're going to be busy, though.

We are going to be busy, though. It's all right. Not busy. Probably falling, if I had to guess. When you're busy, probably climbing a little bit. And that's what we're here to do as a team. Not only people in this room, people listening at home. I can't believe you listen and follow us so much.

You're the fucking best. And, you know, I think our life is going to be like a documentary, by the way. So I started thinking about this. No internet on a plane. Fucking perfect timing, by the way. You got to do research on marty smith excuse me can you guys reset the wi-fi ten thousand feet we're on an airplane i know but every other plane seems except for a couple of these no plug-in either oh come on

so i was kind of like it was me and my thoughts again just me and young gz and my thoughts uh because the only playlist i've saved is my gangster one so it's me rick ross young gz among others uh 32 000 feet in my thoughts and i was like i like the documentaries that kind of show me the behind the scenes of people climbing right that's kind of what we're about to be i think because this is my first real like the espn gig is my first real opportunity in like the the main world then this one we're about to announce is literally our first big introduction into the real world and this is something that i would want to see behind the scenes if i was if i was like watching a documentary you know this oh i want to see how that happened either good or bad right and that's basically what our

life's going to be here for like the next six months pretty awesome it's gonna be a live documentary every day it's hilarious it is very hilarious whenever you view it like that it's like that's how people should just have the mindset that our next six months is just going to be a great insight on whether or not a group of dudes can make it or not. That's really what it's going to be. That's what it's going to be. All the opportunity is going to be there. I think the people are going to really support us

in the companies that we're going to work for, all of them, all of the companies we're going to work for. I think they all want us to succeed and they all have the same goal in mind. It's like, all right, are we going to make it or not? Like, is it going to happen or not? We're going to find out.

We're going to fucking try. We're going to give it a go, man. Hey, we are going to give it a go. Foot on the throttle. Yeah. Full speed, full time. Hey, green light. Quarter mile at a time.

Now we're talking. We don't have brakes breaks I'm excited to see how this all plays out we are not a group that should be probably here it's like Brad Pitt said as Achilles when they stormed

the beaches of Troy he said just reach out and take it it's yours well I thought you were going to come up with a better one than that don't touch my Achilles please I mean I'm not Brad Pitt yeah come up with a better one than that. I'll be honest.

Don't touch my Achilles, please. I mean, I'm not Brad Pitt. Yeah, but you got to remember, he dressed up as that dude once. I know. So that's like a hero of his. By the way, you guys saw that. Yeah, incredible. Ty, you said it was awesome.

All the movie people have said it's awesome. When normally that doesn't happen, right? Normally the movie people are like, terrible movie. This is dumb. All the movie people I feel like that I follow on the internet are all like, this is awesome. Yeah, I mean, I saw a lot of people that said it stunk. They didn't like the story.

If that's the case, then go fucking see Hobbs and Shaw this week. I mean, like that's... We will bleep that. Hey, I'm going to see it. I'm just saying like, yeah, that movie is not for everyone. It's not. It's long. What did The Rock do?

Why did The Rock? I just said, I'm going to see it, but there's two very different crowds that go to both of those. Oh, sure. Okay. Zito goes to Hobbs and Shaw. Oh, yeah. Hey.

I can't wait. For the masses. Did you see Anthony Davis said the movie Downsizing? He was watching Downsizing. He wouldn't pause. For the masses. Did you see Anthony Davis said the movie Downsizing? He was watching Downsizing. He wouldn't pause to find out if he was traded or not. Downsizing. Oh, my God.

Listen, me and Zito, pretty friendly movie critics. Very friendly. Very friendly. Looking for the positive in most movies. I watched Downsizing numerous times. Three times. And hated it every time because I thought i couldn't be beat i thought there was no movie that i couldn't watch that i could find enjoyment out of if people are putting money into it and they're writing their lives into this and they're dedicating months and

months of their time i bought the dvd for deleted scenes hopefully i found to see the one that's missing and it wasn't there are you kidding that was so mad because that's what it feels like when you watch a movie is if they deleted three or four scenes out of very pivotal parts of the movie and there's just no connection yeah anthony davis was watching that movie wouldn't press pause to find out if he's traded the fucking lakers or not that's a lot i respect him bro you're gonna play with lebron james and you're watching his movie that has 40 more plot holes than fucking Indiana. Maybe he was looking for that deleted scene as well.

I was mind blown. I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah, maybe he was like, there's no way. I don't care. I can wait. There's no way this movie makes zero sense. I can't wait to see that once upon a time in Hollywood, though. I'm excited for it. Yeah, it's good.

I like the Brad. And Hobbs and Shaw. And Hobbs and Shaw. And Hobbs and Shaw. Is that QT's ninth movie? Yeah. Yes. Brad Pitt should win an Oscar for it. Oh.

He should win an Oscar for every scene. He keeps getting better and better. Does he eat in every scene? Should have won an Oscar for Achilles. That's what was one of the coolest things in movie history. Does he eat in every scene? No, he smokes a lot of cigarettes, though. That guy burns them down.

Big time. I love that he's either eating or smoking. He's drinking a lot. He's drinking a lot. Drinking and smoking. Always doing something with his hand. And he just plays it off. I guess there's some actors that probably can't do that.

Like LL Cool J licks his lips. All right. With that being said, that is today's show. Thank you so much for listening. Zito with a walk-off, bro. From all of us here, we can show thank you so much for listening uh you know with a walk-off bro from all of us here we can't thank you enough i i hope that i've said it enough times throughout my life but it's honest i am so thankful and this fall is about to be full-on insanity it's about to be pretty cool i think people are going to enjoy following along with the journey i think you are in those thursday night games i mean literal like hey any idea you have send it and i'm like really they're like yeah let's go let's go for it because our thursday night game it used to be the thing right before

the nfl came to thursday espn thursday night college football i played in a lot of those games with west virginia and we had a very high ratings like ESPN. Uh, we had something on our wall at West Virginia that was like three out of the top five viewed games on ESPN were our Thursday night games, right? Like our team on Thursday night, like it was big for, and we knew when we were on Thursday night, like, okay, we get to show out now. Like everybody's watching. We're the only game in town. People are like, Oh, Thursday is a, if you played midweek it was like a knock on your school we viewed it completely differently we're like oh we get monday night football basically that's what we're doing and we're like three times a season so we loved it then the nfl

came to thursday night because i think they saw that right they saw what college football was doing so i think things have kind of dropped off and now they're like hey let's make this a show like let's and i'm very excited for and honored to be a part of it there was a time those thursday night college football games where there was like four or five weeks in a row where the number two team in the country played and they lost like every single week we lost in one of those blackouts against louisville we're number three they were number five louisville just tweeted about it i wanted to tell them to that's my that's one of my favorite things is going under tweets that I don't like from big accounts and saying, please delete this. Nothing else.

Just please delete this. Steve broke his arm that game? I don't know. Bush. I know they had Bush, and he was hurt. And he did a lap around the stadium before the game on crutches, and the place was going apeshit. And then they brought out Muhammad Ali. The place was going apeshit. It was brought out Muhammad Ali the place was going apeshit it was a blackout

the game was a good game and then they stormed the field and I almost saw a couple little white boys from Louisville get their heads knocked off from some West Virginia Mountaineers from Dade County and those little Louisville guys had no idea who they were sprinting at when they were trying to celebrate in the middle of the field they were like running on

and we do like the handshake thing that was one of the only times that i've been on a field that got rushed not for us like against us and it was really it was almost like a military suiting up for war we go out like do the dap upper thing at massive loss and when we turn around we see the student section jumping in and you see all of our players just put our fucking helmets on like literally it seemed as if we all just saw them, and we're like, okay, we're fighting, and everybody just put their fucking helmets on, and these massive dudes were walking towards our locker room,

and if there were any little white kids wearing black shirts storming that field, those kids, I think they don't know how close they were to potential death. There was a couple kids that were about to run, in uh we had a kid a guy named johnny dingle okay dingle was a d lineman from miami good dude left a year early didn't work out he probably should have stuck around if he had hindsight it but he had a hell of a he was a hell of a football player hilarious individual too but he was from dade county now right i mean he's from uh south florida down there

he's he was an awesome guy. But you would like to be friends with this guy, not on the other side. Because if he was friends with you, he was a great guy. But these kids were running at him and laughing in his face. And boy, I almost saw one guy die. Somebody had to grab Dingle and was like, no, no, no, we can't kill him. I thought we were just going to fight. I thought literally our D-line was going to take out 45 kids.

And I was like, oh, shit,, we got to get off the field. And you saw everybody that worked for Western Virginia was wrangling us up, like, get off. Oh my God, don't kill any of these kids, please. And it was a big night. And those Thursday night games, they brought that type of environment. Because the whole world was watching. We've got to get back to that.

They will. Nippert Stadium, I guess, is ready to go. Cincinnati. I've been getting tweets from their students that are like we're gonna bring it first game of the year let's go i'm gonna i would like to score student sections too by the way and uh i'd like to i don't know how it's possible i'm gonna write this up as an idea and text it i would like to give a championship belt to the best student section that hangs on in front of this they sit, like in front of their section, and they win it for like the third.

That would be awesome. Yes, I think so too. They would get behind that for sure. Make a championship belt. Yeah, because they want to be the champ. Yeah, and if Cincinnati is the champ, they're automatically going to be in the lead after week one, right? Right.

The way teams don't get a chance to participate kind of sucks, unless WVU goes down to Baylor, which West Virginia could travel, but Halloween in Morgantown is a great time. So I don't know if chance to participate kind of sucks unless wvu goes down to baylor which west virginia could travel but halloween in morgantown is a great time so i don't know if that's the case but i would like to do that because i think the crowd is a character right i think that is something the wwe has taught me like anytime they're speaking if you ever listen to a wwe commentator anytime the crowd starts making any noise at all you'll hear the commentators just stop basically the commentators are just stopping what they're doing and letting the crowd do what they want to do. It's a character.

In college football, that is very much the case. The crowd is a character. And if we can get these crowds on these Thursday nights to do awesome stuff, I think that is going to be great TV. I don't want to say I'm going to exploit it, but I think there's a lot of really awesome shit happening in the crowd.

It does get covered in college football. It does get covered. They are a character. But I think that is something that really makes college football great is the characters. And if the games are awesome, that'd be cool too. Yep. If we have a couple of great games.

Because you heard a couple of the analysts talk, and they were reviewing the final minute of games that are very tight and how commentators handle it and stuff. And one of the analysisers, one of the analysts was like, this is your big payoff, right? You call all the blowouts, so you get one of these games where it comes down to it. And it's hard to manage your emotion, right? Because you've got to let the moment speak for itself itself but you also have to make it a legendary moment with your words right because those things are going to be synonymous with each other but he said you

handle all the blowouts for that moment and in my head i thought about i was like oh there's gonna be a lot of blowouts that's what that guy just said that guy just said that there's gonna be a lot of games that are just blowouts but then whenever you get that big one it's like okay this is the moment that we're here for, you know? And that's what ratings normally follow to, by the way, is the good games. We just got to get them there for the bad ones, too. Well, you've already experienced your blob. 31-0, man.

Matt Prater, hero, bro. Matt Prater's a hero. It's going to be a fun fall. And I'm excited to dive into this book. I have not. And that's not just like a thing i'm bragging about like for instance this is something i do brag about albert einstein steve jobs kanye west pat mcafee all college dropouts okay pretty good list i'm not saying you should drop out i'm just saying us four we did okay we're doing our thing i have never read a book me neither this is not bragging this is not i read

a lot of words on twitter i can read i can understand i could possibly read a book. But my entire life, I've never found myself to sit down and finish a book. And because I can kind of memorize certain things, I was able just to bullshit my way through book report conversations and Q&A for, oh, what happened in the hatchet last night? Oh, it was crazy. I had no idea. I just bullshitted my way through it. So it was never,

A, I never stuck to it. And B, I never had to because I got through it. So I never, West Virginia, if you're on scholarship, you get a box of books. That thing was handed to me taped

and it was returned with the same fucking tape on it. I never even opened the boxes. By the time it got to my junior and senior year, I just told him to keep it. I don't want to lose them. I know it'll cost us. Just hang on to it. I never even opened the boxes. By the time it got to my junior and senior year, I just told him to keep it. I don't want to lose him. I know it'll cost us. Just hang on to it. I'll figure it out, man. Yeah, I'll get somebody else's or something. I'll figure it out. This one

though, I think is going to be good. I think it's going to be legit. Just from like, he's the most interesting human on earth. Well, I think that's easier too because it's not a novel. It's like the chapters are fairly short. So it's like a novel. It's like the chapters are fairly short, so it's like a bunch of self-contained stories almost. So it's not like you have to get –

like you can read a certain story and be like, okay, I can stop there for the night, and then you pick it up again and it's a new story. Like it's put together really well. Is there any pictures? No. Really? Not that I know of.

I didn't see any. Wait a minute. I need like four photos at least. You know what it is, though? Foxy? Yeah. It's double space. Oh.

What does that mean? It's like double space, 14 font here. That makes it easy? The periods are 28 font. Foxy. It's an enjoyable read. Hey, I don't know if I've ever heard anyone use double space. There are pictures. Oh, let's go. I'm reading it. I've ever heard anyone use double space. There are pictures.

Oh, let's go. I'm reading it. I just found pictures. Here he is on Saban's boat with Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow, Nick Saban, and him on a boat. He seems to be holding a drink of some sort. American flag on the back of Saban's boat. Good for him.

Here's him and Brandon Williams next to the Brooklyn Bridge. Brandon Marshall, sorry. That's on me. Yeah, there's a bunch of pictures in here. Oh, I can't wait. It legitimizes all the stories. There you go. I'll read those pages.

And the other ones too. You'll read the pictures. Yeah. Congrats, man. A picture has a thousand words. A million words. A picture is worth. Yeah.

It doesn't have them. It's worth. That's on me. No. It's on the picture. It's not it doesn't have them it's worth that's on me no it's on the picture it's not on you i'm gonna dive into this i think i think this might be my peace time here's him and eric church at a fishing tournament he wrote about in forward we were kids then it's literally them holding two i mean those might be fucking alien fish these things are 45 pound bass I don't know where they're catching

That's a stalked lake for sure Here's him in a Boston police officer Because he ran a marathon Done a lot He's a fucking wild animal I'm going to read this book Thanks to him for coming on If you could tweet him and tell him that we'd appreciate it

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Yeah, it was a pleasant surprise. I don't know who's all doing the designing. This shit just shows up in my life. And I'm very happy that this is how it's become, by the way, it used to be very hands-on process for all of us with the merch, which we will still do for big things, right? There's still things like that,

but for just the, I need to update my wardrobe. So that's basically what they're doing is they're just trying to update my wardrobe and then we put shit up for sale. And these things just showed up in our lives today. And I'm like, Oh man, I'm happy.

These are coming out. Good for us, man. See if a Phil's got that under lock and key over there. And we got a new shipping option. Oh, that's nice. Right? We have a new shipping option.

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Tweet us some suggestions too. What's the theme this week? If you want a theme, we'll do a theme. Oh, I know what we should do. I would like a theme. Alright, let's do a theme. Your wrestling entrance music. That'll be the theme for this week. Summer Slam's coming up. For your own.

If you were a wrestler in the WWE, what would you come out to the ring to? And I will take suggestions on what you think mine should be because mine has already been played. Which is still good, by the way. It's this. Oh. Oh, the lights turned on.

Yeah, the lights just came on. They're black now. Back on. Yeah, legs just came on. They're black now. Back on. Start. Actually, this is it, Rega, ready? This is it. This is how it would go. Arena goes pitch black.

Okay. Where are we? We're in Indianapolis. Sure. Voice of God. Bankers, life, field house. Indianapolis, Indiana! Earlier today, I stopped by Kilroy's, got a breadstick.

Probably should have had another layer of pepperoni on it, but it tastes damn good. Went down to IU, shot on a court that Bob Knight used to coach in. Shout out to the Hoosiers. Boiler up, up in West Lafayette. Had a couple beers with the Peyton Manning statue. And tonight, we are going to beat the living hell out of in the greatest city on earth.

Are you ready? And then hopefully the place would yell. And then all of a sudden out of nowhere, while it's still pitch black. Yeah, I think that would be my intro. You've thought about it? Yeah. I may or may not have already pitched it to Mr. H. See those fog machine going crazy?

I would like to. I also told him, I was like, listen, I'm not expecting you guys to ever let me do this. I don't know if my body can handle it. But if it ever arises, that's how I kind of presented it. It was either Cole or Mr. H. I forget which one. I was like, that's how I want it to go. And I want to come out of the top. I want to come out of the top.

I want to be up in the top tier with my people up there. They're like, well, how will you get down? I'm like, maybe a fire pole. They're like, okay, so we got to put a fire pole in every arena for you to come down from the rafters, basically. I'm like, yeah, that's kind of what I'm thinking. Yeah, you guys have done crazier things, right, haven't you? They're like, is there like a little bit of a, you know, back in the day there was no security. Like we kind of were allowed to do that.

Now if you were to get sued or somebody was to hit you, it would be a big deal. But my people won't hit me up there, man. My people won't hit me up there. They're like, well, what are you going to get sued or somebody was to hit you it'd be a big deal but my people won't hit me up there man my people won't hit me up there like well what are you gonna do i'm like to be honest probably smash a beer with somebody up there i'll probably have some popcorn and then we just kind of come down from the from the what would that be called the rafters upper deck upper deck yeah come down from the upper deck as the as the music's playing and the lights shoot on i'm in a different spot of the arena. Does that make sense?

So I'm like the sting meets the sandman meets Stone Cold Steve Austin. Oh, yeah. And then I get to the ring. They didn't say no. I think the word Cole used was, that'd be an interesting entrance. And I think he said, you've thought about this, just like you guys did.

I was like, yeah, I just think that'd be pretty cool. I mean, I don't know what I would do after that. I think that'd just be a pretty cool little moment there. Like, yeah, that'd be a pretty dramatic entrance. I'm like, me, Undertaker, you know. Imagine the upper deck just waiting for you like looking around like where's he at where's he at and then there'll be like the lights will go black and then i go up there i think it'd be cool probably couldn't do it due to it being 2019 just yeah but maybe a jet board

they aren't for sale yet but i am on a list I am on an email list for as soon as that thing goes up for sale. The guy crashed though. He did. But it wasn't his fault. He wanted to fly across. He's the one that made it. He wanted to fly across. He created the flyboard. Listen, he wanted to fly across the English Channel. He wanted to refuel midair while he was flying. They wouldn't let him do it. They said he had

to land on a platform out there in the water. When he tried to land on the platform, the wind gusted and moved the platform and he crashed into the water. When he tried to land on the platform, the wind gusted, not move the platform, and he crashed into the water. Oh, so he didn't crash. The platform crashed. Ipso facto, he didn't crash. By the way, I'm very proud of this show being a

grammatically correct ipso facto show. Oh, yeah. I always thought it was if so. Turns out, it's not. What? I lumped you into that, too. That's on me for assuming that you knew it was for some reason. All right, make us laugh, win some merch.

Also, send in suggestions on the individuals, obviously, on what you think a good entrance song would be. I think mine's pretty well mapped out, but I'm open to another one. I mean, let's always have backup plans. Interesting. You went with an emo band. I know.

I didn't know that. I don't know anything about that song. It does. I'd have never heard the words. I've never made it. I have never made it past 30 seconds of that song. I just hear the first. I'm like,

all right. And then normally when I'm with people, I rewind. I'm like, I think of this. Lights are hitting right here. Lights are hitting right here. Did you find out Pandora on your, like, I forget how I found it. I think Nick all right, think of this. Lights are hitting right here. Lights are hitting right here. Did you find out Pandora?

I forget how I found it. I think Nick sent it to me. I had some other song I wanted. And then Nick sent me a group, a cluster of songs, I think. And that was my first time ever hearing the Cambria group. What are they called? Coheed and Cambria. Good font.

Cambria. Is it your favorite or which one's your favorite? Comic Sans. Comic Sans is like the classic elementary school.

Chalkboard Duster. You're a fucking idiot. Have a great day. Happy Thursday. Big thanks to Marty. Send him some thanks too.

And buy his book when it comes out. I'm assuming it's going to be incredible. Ty Schmidt, hit the music. ¶¶ country sound. We'll all be flying higher than a jetliner. And if you want a little bang in your yin-yang, come along. Well, we flew through Cincinnati and we all got really happy. Grabbed a bowl of that skyline chili along the way. Then we rode on into Canton Scared the hell out of Marilyn Manson

And the party started happening Hey, hey, hey And in the middle of a Charleston night We ran into Jessica White And a little moonshine caught us right from smackin' town And we're comin' to your city Gonna play our guitars and sing you a country song We'll all be flying higher than a jet airliner

And if you want a little bang in your yin-yang, come along Well, we broke down in Greenville in the middle of a hay field But a Bud Light truck pulled up and helped us out So we dead-headed up to Philly, partied down like real hillbillies Brought the music mafia and rocked it out And Chippewa's where we go when we're up in Buffalo Don't you know those Yankees drinkin' up the drive Yeah, we're comin' to your city

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And in Phoenix, Arizona, we drank way too much Corona. And we woke up by the river in Jeff City, Mo. And we're coming to your city. Gonna play our guitars and sing you a country song We'll all be flying Higher than the jet airliner And if you want a little bang and a yin-yang, come along Yeah, yeah, we're coming To your city

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And you chang chang Come along Come along Come along Come along Yeah we're coming To your city