The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1002 - Trenches Wednesday With Auston Matthews, JJ Watt, The General's Top 5 With Bobby Carpenter, Amanda Serrano, AQ Shipley and Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 25, 2023

Today's show is absolutely LOADED. Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about how incredible last night in sports was with Game 7 of the NLCS, NBA Opening Night, the NHL Frozen Frenzy that saw all 32 NHL teams in action, and everything else happening around the NFL as we prepare for week 8 starting tomorrow. Joining the progrum Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Trenches Wednesday, October 25th, 2023, this sports program starts now. Football! Has not happened on the last couple evenings, but tonight I will tell you what. The Jacksonville State University Gamecocks will be playing must-watch television. For the first time, they're 7.5-point favorites tonight. We will bet on them. What's going on around the sports world, though?

I don't know. How about electricity everywhere? Last night, there was MLB. Massive game. Congrats to the Arizona Diamondbacks. That's right. Beating our Philadelphia Phillies. And I've been saying this whole time, don't let Arizona get hot.

They might go into Philadelphia and win back-to-back nights and steal a series from the Philadelphia Phillies, and I've been saying this whole time, don't let Arizona get hot. They might go into Philadelphia and win back-to-back nights and steal a series from the Philadelphia Phillies and get themselves into the World Series starting on Friday. Not only was it a big-time MLB night last night, it was a massive NBA evening. The NBA tipped off. There's some storylines coming out of there with

fans being awesome in Denver. Cannot wait to break that whole thing down. And then, obviously, the NHL debuted its's frozen frenzy with bachy gross and kevin weeksy on espn2 and espn plus it was like a historic evening for the nhl where every single team played that's not normal normally it's split up amongst the week they had how many different goal scores? Like 93? 93, yeah. 93 unique goal scores, which is the second most in the history of a one-day for the NHL. 102 goals, 6.4 goals per game. I mean, it was electrifying. Congrats to ESPN, Beecher Gross, and Weeksy launching something that's beautiful.

Way to go, boys. I think the hockey purists hated it because you weren't able to keep up with one particular game. But I think a lot of the casual fans were introduced to a lot of teams and a lot of players very quickly. I enjoyed it. So applaud the hell out of them being innovative and trying to spread the game. Speaking of that, not only do we have Hockey is Awesome segment

happening here in a little bit, we also have Austin Matthews of Toronto Maple Leafs fresh off of a goal and an assist last night in a massive win over the Capitals. He'll be joining us at 1245. Now. Maybe. We'll see.

That has moved. They just had a big game last night. They got meetings today. The NHL life is not an easy one. They're on the road. They're napping. They're not napping. They're sleeping.

They're playing. They're grinding. They're hurting. They're back. They're on the ice. So we believe Austin Matthews will be around 1245. We're very excited to chat with him. We'll also have J.J. W're back. They're on the ice. So we believe Austin Matthews will be around 1245. We're very excited to chat with him. We'll also have J.J. Watt today.

What? Bobby Carpenter today. What? Amanda Serrano today. What? And the talk table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. You're wearing a really cool shirt. Is that because Argo Land has been found?

Well, Argo Land, I mean, that is groundbreaking. I'm glad he brought it up. The continent we've all been looking for for the last 155 million years. But no, this is not. This actually was just kind of like haven't worn this one yet. Not an animal. It's the moon under the moon. It's kind of cool. No other thought around it. Well, there's not a lot of

thought around a lot of things around here. Well, this ArgoLand thing though, really game-changing, man. Scientists have found the lost continent ArgoLand. Woo! We've been looking for 155 million years for this thing. Yeah! Found it! We did it! Found it! I'm happy the modern technology was able to figure out

this thing that existed before Pangea allegedly. Now none of us have ever heard of this obviously but the more we learn the less we understand. Shout out to Argo Land doing its thing though. Man I bet it was tough times back then Argo Land. They didn't even have internet. They didn't have electricity.

I don't even think they had beds. I don't even know if somebody put leaves on a rock to make seats more comfortable at that time. Doubt it. So I'm excited to see how Argoland really comes together and what type of structures they had. Because, you know, there's these people with these new lasers and stuff. They're just walking around. They're like, this is where an entire civilization lived. If you were to dig down here, there'd be towns that have been covered up.

It's like, how long are they living? Well, 100, 200 million years. It's like, okay, how do we know that? We're just shot in the dark. Well, if you count the amount of rings in the tree that is down there. Carbon dated. And then a carbon. It's like, I don't believe anything.

But I'm pumped that we found Argo Land. Just like Legoland, it's where dreams come true. Speaking of dreams coming true, one half of the hammer. Cowboys turn digs is here. You've been fascinated by Argo land since you heard about it yeah i have questions um how long has it been missing 155 million years i haven't heard about it i would have been on a search party if you would have got me a little bit younger but now i'm not at the point we're not the best mathematicians around people have been around for like two million years something like that so who was looking for it for the other 148 million years, something like that? So who was looking for it for the other 148 million years? Well, see, this is what you said right.

You don't know. Yeah, because they actually changed when the universe was created. Yeah, I do know. Bones tell us how long. Yeah, but every new dinosaur that gets dug up in some new place, we've learned a lot. I'm not talking about dino bones. Well, if you're talking about dinos, you're talking about cave people. Yeah.

Because I don't want to be sexist, because people have been sexist for a long time. They always say cave men. Whoa. Well, how is that possible? Can't be. You don't have to have. I saw an article yesterday that actually they found that cavewomen also were hunters as well,

not just gatherers. Yeah, absolutely. Of course. Yeah. What are we talking about? Back in the cave people days? Yeah. Yeah.

They used to do what they had to do to survive. Thank you. Old school. It's a blue collar group. Yeah. Those cave people. Brass belt. I don't like that.

Anyways, sounds like you're out on the Argo land. I'm not. Scientists said it. Bro Bible reported it. Obviously, it's real. Man who played in the NFL for 12 years. Super Bowl champion. Player and coach.

Looks really cool with the Henley today. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ Shipley. AQ. Big fashion guy. Yeah, you do. You look really good. Who's doing the shopping for you? Is this you?

No. It's the wife. Oh, you have it. A little wife. Little wife's friend. You have this you? No. It's the wife. Oh, you have it. A little wife, little wife's friend. You have a stylist? Yep. Wow.

Whoa! Is that right? This guy's got a stylist. A professional shopper, yeah. I heard you earlier, a guy who has a professional shopper and is down 70 pounds from back when he used to be a cave person and move other people and everything like that. That's exactly right. You said something about the Arizona Diamondbacks.

You live five minutes from that stadium. I've never heard him say the word Diamondback in my life. That's a lie. I've been talking about it for six months. Oh, shut up. Talking about what? The Diamondbacks. You told us about Rattlesnake when we came out.

Three months ago, they traded for SeaWorld. That's the guy, right? SeaWorld, yeah. Came in, he killed it last night. He was unbelievable. He's a beast. He's a guy. He's really flipped the entire town over there.

Unbelievable. It's become a baseball community over there. What a team. Yeah, absolutely. Can't wait to go. Cheapest World Series ticket ever. $27 was the ticket price that was available at one point. Now they're in the World Series.

We're not in the same timeline. Those prices have gone up, especially over there in Phoenix. Oh, yeah. Are you going to a game? Yeah, I'm going to go. I'm the biggest fan in Phoenix. I've been saying this for six months. What are we talking about?

All right. Way to go, Diamondbacks. Happy for your Diamondbacks. Yeah, me too. Now your dad, massive Pirates fan, right? He's going to be mad about you saying what you're just saying right now? Remember the scar I had last week on the head? That's what he's doing right now.

He's banging his head against the wall. Yeah, his dad actually one of the only Pittsburgh Pirates fans in Pittsburgh. Whole life? Like, whole life. Forever. How many games are in a season? 162. So, you hang out with AQ just randomly during those 162 games, whenever they are, and he'll just get a text from his dad.

It'll be like 2.30 in the afternoon and be like, fly the flag or something. Or, what's he say? I get the videos. Raise the Jolly Roger! There it is. And he'll be like, oh, I guess they started at 11 today? How's that game already over? It's like, say? I get the videos. Raise the Jolly Roger. And he'll be like, oh, I guess they started at 11 today. How's that game already over? It's like, yeah, I'm afternoon game. I guess we Pirates just won every single time.

So now he's heard that his seed has become a Diamondback fan. And we have never heard that out of you. But we are incredibly pumped for them because there was people that have followed the MLB for a long time that said this team's got no shot. Chris Mad Dog Russo, he said, I'll retire. I'll quit. I will stop doing what I'm doing. If the Diamondbacks were able to go into Philadelphia and win back-to-back

games, Game 6 and Game 7, to kind of clear this thing out. They did. And Chris Mad Dog Russo was on Howard Stern this morning and said, I'm a liar. I'm not going to do that. I was being dramatic. But nobody was giving them hope against this Phillies team. And it makes sense after what I saw.

I don't know much about baseball. But why was this Diamondbacks team being talked about as if they had no shot against the Phillies? You just look at the Phillies lineup and their pitching. The Diamondbacks just aren't as good. The Diamondbacks went, I think, 84 and 78 in the regular season. So they're barely 500. The Phillies played in one of the toughest

divisions in baseball, and they've been really hot right now, but I mean, I said a couple weeks ago, you know, like the Phillies were the team of destiny. I should have known. Like, the Diamondbacks were kind of staring at us the entire time. That was the team of destiny. Their payroll is like just a little over $100 million.

Can you give us some comparisons? Yeah, so I don't know what the Phillies is, but the Mets this year, their payroll to start the season was, I think, $355 million. They basically have homegrown talent. They have young guys who are producing, and it's just very rarely does a team like that beat a team like the Phillies who can go and spend these massive amounts of money in free agency to get guys. Because, I mean, although Arizona's awesome, they just have never been good like that since the early 2000s where big free agent names would want to go sign with them.

And who's SeaWorld? Yeah, he's the closer. He traded from Seattle. Tocatay's closer. His name's SeaWorld? It's not SeaWorld. It's close. Close.

It's close. What is it? He's SeaWorld to me. Because SeaWorld. It's close. Close. It's close. What is it? He's SeaWorld to me. Because you see the world with this guy. That's exactly right. Yeah, because this guy's making you see the world. Him and Van Ginkle. Van Ginkle's the other, the setup guy, right?

Yeah. Ginkle was a dog. I saw him come in and do his thing last night. Miami Dolphins? Ginkle plays baseball too? No, just Ginky. This is just Ginky. Oh, okay.

Not Van Ginky. I was going to say. This dude came in, though, in an interesting situation. There was a couple interesting situations that people were put into last week. There was a guy who had a two-pitch inning or whatever. He got subbed in. Phillies had bases loaded. This guy comes in.

It's like, okay, congratulations. Your whole season right now relies upon you being warm enough to come out of the dugout or whatever. And if they hit a bomb on you right now, you're done. Season's over. You're done. Your entire season, your offseason's going to be miserable. That's all you're going to be thinking about. This guy got out. I think he made somebody fly out or something like that. But it was a lot of...

It was good baseball. It was tough to pay attention to because the boys were getting killed. My team that we're pulling for the Phillies. Also, we will not have Bryce Harper on today. Damn it! Because they lost. There was a chance he was going to come on. I hope you're happy with SeaWorld. Joining us, nine-year NFL vet, absolute stallion of a man, a stud, Darius J. Butler.

D-Butt, last night, a lot of sports. We had the NBA tip off, a lot of games. We had the NHL frozen frenzy. I know everybody was checking that out, had to. There was a lot that popped off last night in the NHL. Cannot wait. They actually promoted that Austin Matthews is coming on the show today. Yeah. And then there was a time

where he was not coming on show today. Correct. So that was a very fascinating little beginning to a relationship. We're very excited that he is making

his time on here. And then obviously the baseball took place. What did you do last night? What'd you watch and what caught your eye, D-Bud? Watched some basketball,

caught some of the Lakers-Nuggets game and then the Suns-Warriors and then also had to obviously catch my Panthers get a dub last night 3-1. Yeah, I saw the Florida Panthers doing their thing.

And you're a big fan of the hockey. Huge fan. Always have been. Always. Love the Florida Panthers. Love them. You know, there's a couple good things happened with the Florida Panthers last night. I think they will be broadcasted on Hockey is Awesome just a little bit later

with Kachuk being an absolute dog. His brother. Swaggy got him. Dog. Bob was a dog in the net, obviously, but Swaggy got one. Yeah, I mean, it's a great team you have down there. Just can never win in the end. No, no.

Isn't that kind of the – it feels like that's the Florida Panthers issue. Not getting embarrassed in the end. What's that? Kind of getting embarrassed in the end. We remember the game clinching. Yeah, you got – yeah. Yeah. A little wagon.

Gave about seven goals. Nice little wagon. Got laughed out of the toughest barn in the NHL. But, hey, we did – we accomplished something. Yeah, you did. We put that in the rack. Yeah, you ruined. Got laughed out of the toughest barn in the NHL. Hey, we accomplished something. We put that in the rack. Yeah, you ruined the greatest regular season in the history of hockey, which is what the Boston Bruins were able to accomplish last year. That's why that pasta jersey is hanging because that guy right over there

at the talk stand with the mullet was very loud all hockey season because that Boston Bruins team did have the greatest regular season. Now, there is a debate because shootouts and overtime teams were forced to take ties instead of getting wins not too long ago. So would the Detroit Red Wings, I believe, was the team, end up with more wins than the Boston Bruins in a regular season if they want to shoot out? Definitely a chance.

Maybe. Yes. Maybe. Definitely a chance. Okay, so we'll say the Red Wings era of hockey is one era, and then the Bruins era is a different one. Okay, and I think yours is like 13 years or something like that. Okay, so we'll say the Red Wings era of hockey is one era, and then the Bruins era is a different one. Okay, and I think yours is like 13 years or something like that. 2004, 2005?

Whatever. 2008, I think maybe 15 years. Whatever it is. I mean, that was a long time. 2006, after the lockout. All right. So we're in the middle. We meet in the middle there.

Classic. That is one of the most classic R show things of all time. We found the answer there. The answer is normally right there in the middle. If you listen long enough, you will find it in there. But the Boston Bruins were supposed to be the greatest team, the team of destiny, the greatest regular season. And then the Florida Panthers said, get the hell out of here.

See you later. That ain't it. And then we hung this jersey to commemorate the greatest regular season of all time up there in New England. Hell, yeah. You guys were so good during the regular season. Yeah, we were. It was a hell of a year, and now we're 6-0 now,

one of the two undefeated teams with the Vegas Golden Knights. And, you know, for D-Butt to come up here and say that his entire hockey fandom life, he can just go back and say at least we beat the Boston Bruins, that means a lot to me. Because that means, you know, teams still value and they get up for those games. But let's not just stop at hockey. I mean, the Miami Heat lost in the finals. Obviously, the Florida Panthers enter Miami with Methy.

They did not make it. So Miami has kind of taken a turn. Miami Hurricanes in the Final Four. Yeah, they lost as well. Not as tough as what Philly's run is, but close. That was in women's basketball too, right? Didn't the women's – I think the women's Hurricanes. Yeah, they went far.

Elite eight, I think, maybe. They beat Indiana, right? What's the women's... I think the women's Hurricanes... They went far. They beat Indiana, right? What's happened? Miami can't close? FAU lost in the Final Four. Getting there. Close. This year's when you take the next step. Let's talk about the NBA because it tipped off last night. And we happen to be a little bit apart of one of the biggest stories of opening night.

So if you got a chance to watch the Denver Nuggets fans last night, they put on a show. They put on a damn show. And I think this is something that we need more of in night. So if you got a chance to watch the Denver Nuggets fans last night, they put on a show. They did. They put on a damn show. And I think this is something that we need more of in sports. We need fans buying into the storylines, understanding that

they are a weapon, understanding that home court, home field advantage is a very real thing. Not just with sound affecting communication on the court

or on the field, but with mental warfare. Letting people know how they should feel when they come into your house. And if you do recall, the Denver Nuggets and the Los Angeles Lakers got a little chirpy last year, didn't they? On our particular

program, Michael Malone, the head coach of the Denver Nuggets, who came on before the parade, but after the championship was won, had this to say about how, you know, the Lakers potentially handled losing to the Nuggets. Speaking of the Lakers, I just want you guys to know this is breaking news. I'm thinking about retiring.

So don't tell anybody. You love the house, Coach. You love it. Coach, let's take the conversation away from the championship. Let's talk about the coach retiring. If you do recall, after LeBron and the Lakers lost to the Nuggets, LeBron floated that he might think about retiring so that there wasn't a conversation about the Nuggets and the Lakers lost to the Nuggets, LeBron floated that he might think about retiring so that there wasn't a conversation about the Nuggets beating the Lakers.

It was more so about, is LeBron James going to retire? And then you go to the Denver Nuggets parade. If you remember, the parade was something that Joker had no idea was going to happen. Joker was informed of the parade after winning the championship, and he said, oh, no. Somebody tell Horse I don't want to do parade. And then he gets to parade, and he said, oh, no, who tell, somebody tell Horse I don't want to do parade. And then he gets to parade, and he do parade good. Denver Nuggets do parade really good.

So good that Vic Lombardi, who I believe is one of the radio show hosts over there in Denver, and I assume the voice of the Denver Nuggets in his bio on his Twitter, it says, started as a sweat mopper for the Denver Nuggets. So I assume he used to be an intern, equipment manager a long day, tied into the city. At the end of the parade, after the boys had had their fun, and Michael

Malone certainly had digested a couple things that made him feel a certain way, he was introduced by this man named Vic Lombardi this way. He came into this world as the son of a coach, but in these playoffs he became the Lakers daddy okay so Vic Lombardi thought bars right there and you can't spell Lombardi without bar which is right there in the middle and that guy with the hat on and sunglasses in the chain that is the

head coach of the Denver Nuggets that is the guy who was having a good old time behind all Vic Lombardi. So then you have to wonder yourself, wow, they're chirping a lot. They're taking a little victory lap here. How's it being received on the other side? Well, shortly after that, LeBron James, who was over in France, I believe waving a green flag at a race and everything, he put on his Instagram, he goes, in Europe for the past few weeks, minding my business. And I hear I'm on your mind that much, huh? I mean, I guess I see why, shrug. But wave the flag on these lames. Please make being player cool again,

because the lame machine is at an all-time high. Enjoy your life, but just know, I'm the sun. I stay on forever. Bar, there is well. So then also, let's listen to what Anthony Davis had to say at the media day to start this particular season on why maybe they heard what the Nuggets were saying and how they're feeling about it. It was just a lot of, like, the talking and all of Lakers.

It was just so much of that going on. Like, all right, we get it, y'all won. But, you know, I think, you know, me and LeBron had some conversations. Like, we can't wait get it, y'all won. But, you know, I think, you know, me and LeBron had some conversations. Like, we can't wait. You know, like. And then LeBron said, like, in due time we will address those things. And we were looking forward to this opening night. Yeah.

And let me tell you how this opening night ended. How's that? Vic Lombardi's bar was getting quoted from everybody at 5,200 feet above sea level. Listen to this last night as the time ticked away with another Nuggets win over the Lakers. Vincent Arntop. Also in the contest is Maxwell Lewis. Young players.

And you hear the fan faithful. Who's your daddy? To the Nuggets fans, we say bravo. Wow. Bravo. That is how fans are supposed to act in sports. That is how arenas are supposed to be. All the way behind your boys, definitely trying to, you know,

baffle the other side a little bit and understanding you can have an effect and also enjoy the hell out of what your team did for the first time in the franchise's history, which is win a championship. I loved watching that last night, and I love this little storyline that's brewing between these two. Love it, a little rivalry. You know, obviously, Bron been around a long time, 21 years. AD coming in talking about, oh, can't wait,

and then for him to disappear and not score a point in the second half, extremely disappointing. But Joker picking up right where he left off. Jamal Murray doing his thing. The team, they just look like they're primed to make another run. You know, now the Suns look good too, but the Nuggets look well in position to make another run. Yeah, Devin Booker had a hilarious quote about,

what do you have to say to the naysayers after what you guys just did? I don't talk to them. So, all guys are like, that's a great answer. I've never heard that answer. I appreciate that answer. But when you're talking about the Nuggets and you're talking about the Lakers, you're talking about one of the greatest of all time. AQ, I know you believe this. LeBron James, greatest basketball player

of all time. He's at 40 years old. He's going to have his team right back in this thing at the end. And I think we're going to see this Nuggets-Lakers rivalry continue throughout the entire season. LeBron said after the game that classic team quote, right?

Oh, yeah. Big win. Well, I did. I did what I did in my 29 minutes. So I think we're going to be seeing a lot more of what we just saw last night. So what are you saying about LeBron James? I don't think I can thank LeBron. No.

Yeah, you don't like LeBron. What's your deal? I think you're either a Jordan guy or a LeBron guy, right? Isn't that the way it works? Hell, yeah. Two different sports. Two different sports. Two different sports! They were playing two different sports!

I agree with you, though. I don't know about that, but what Zito said, but yeah, Diggs is also a known hater, but the entirety of it all for me is, Jordan was playing a different sport than LeBron's playing. Completely different sport. I learned that whenever I watched The Last Dance. And I saw some big 6'7

white dribbling like this. And I saw somebody pick his pocket and they're like, wow, what a defensive play. It's like, I could steal a ball from that guy in this era. Not Jordan's fault that that's where basketball was. Not their fault at all. It's just he's evolved. And I think Jordan would do great in this era. And I think LeBron

would have done great in that era. So I just think it's not a conversation of like if or if. It's more so like let's just appreciate greatness when it's there. He's put up 29. Come on. He reminded you. He put up 29 last night.

Yeah, he let us know. Yeah, he absolutely did. You don't agree with the two different sports. Well, I think Bill Lambeer, you know, I don't think you're seeing Bill Lambeer come across the lane and clothesline in LeBron these days. You don't think 6'8", 270-pound LeBron James? All I see is him flopping.

I think he'll be all right. You see him flopping because that's the game now. You don't think he would have been able to go through high school in that era, go through college in that era, and then come into the NBA bigger than Lambert and say, hey, who's your daddy? You don't think that's happening? I don't.

We could have a civilized conversation here. I don't. That's why I text you every time I see something. Yeah, anytime he gets a meme that showcases that Jordan's better than Braun, it shows up in my phone. That's awesome. He just sent me one, too. Oh, yeah, it was the same one.

Oh, yeah. He sent now. Okay. There's probably like 40 of us in our lives that are like, hey, you're allowed to respect both these guys. Jordan would have been great now. LeBron would have been great then. I think we can all understand that with a brain.

But the Lakers-Nuggets rivalry is a beautiful thing. Now, with that being said, basketball doesn't start until the day after Christmas. That's right. Bingo. They used to have Christmas. And then the NFL said, that's our holiday now. So sorry about it. You guys are going to have to be the day after. But I think for the NBA, last night

was a great start for them, right? Yeah, pretty good start. And we got Victor Wimbinyama makes his debut tonight as well against Luka Kyrie and the Mavericks. So that should be a good one as well. You need to know the guy's name. I think I said it right. Yeah, you did.

Wimbyyama. Yeah, but we know Wimby. Wimby. I just call him Wimby. Yeah. I just call him what? He's the next guy, right? Victor is the next one.

And then the NHL. Nick, great night for the Frozen Frenzy, right? I mean, this is a beautiful thing to have in the middle of a football week. And obviously, we got a great game tomorrow night. Huge. Great game tomorrow night to kick off the NFL Week 8 slate. It is going to be a big one. I think we're learning about some teams being a little bit injuries.

I think we're hearing about Dawson Knox, I believe, is not playing tomorrow night for the Buffalo Beals, which is a big deal. Tampa Bay Buccaneers could have lost to the Falcons by like three scores, but they kept that one real close, ended up losing on a game-winning field goal from Youngway Koo. So they're obviously excited for a quick turnaround. Eight-and-a-half point spread is a lot. It's a lot of points, especially with how Buffalo has played. We like Buffalo, but they have played worse football at a higher rate

than they have over the last three years to start a season. Are we losing our faith? Is Josh Allen losing his faith? I saw a little narrative that maybe Josh Allen is starting to second-guess himself on some things, which is making it all even worse. We don't know if that's real or not, but we do know you go out on a Thursday and dominate the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. All of a sudden, the conversation on Friday is,

so the Buffalo Bills had a couple slow weeks, had a couple bad weeks. Let's talk about one of them. Buffalo Bills lose to the New England Patriots. If the Buffalo Bills lose to the Bucs, okay, which possible? At home. Especially with that Bucs defense and the weapons that the Buccaneers have.

The Buccaneers are a professional football team, a professional outfit who can beat anybody. We have to remember that. If they beat the Bills, though, it's going to get real loud about this Buffalo Bills team and how we've gotten to this point. You've already kind of started it because the question was posed, was the Niners loss a worse loss or the Bills loss a worse loss, which is what I was kind of asked on first take. And I thought it was the Niners loss because home field advantage is still on the line. I think we all agree that the Niners are going to be around at the end and still have a chance to win the Super Bowl.

I feel like we've naturally just kind of stopped thinking that the Bills are going to win the Super Bowl for whatever reason. It just feels like that's where the conversation is. Started this season that way. We've always been Bills fans, but it feels like they're not going to be around for whatever reason at this exact moment. You said you thought that the Bills lost to the Patriots was a much bigger deal.

Why is that? And do you think the Bills are going to be a team that's going to be able to make a run in the end? They've got to go. They've got to go starting now. And I think the reason that I think it was the biggest loss of the weekend was they went against a New England team who we all know is not very good, right? They look vastly different. They do.

And now they're playing a team with a great interior defensive line. Todd Bowles is going to cover the middle three down. He's going to run his Bear and Cub defense like he runs all the time. And I think one thing we're not talking enough about. That's cute. Bear and Cub, the father. Oh, yeah. Father, son.

Pretty good, right? Yeah, or daughter, whatever. The one thing we're not talking about enough is Roger Saffold, who was a veteran he was on in the trenches a lot last year. He was a dog at left guard. Not in the league anymore. Out was a dog at left guard not in the league anymore out rookie in at left guard the interior of their offensive line got manhandled by new england's defensive line okay so that's maybe a part of the problem that's why we're seeing

josh allen struggle so much maybe he's not as comfortable as confident in the pocket as he has been in the past i think so yeah i mean you're seeing that and he's obviously second guessing some decisions and they just don't look the same for whatever reason. It might be running back. It might be some guys on the offensive line. But it's just not looking the same. What are you shaking your head for? I mean, definitely not running back.

This is the first time in so long that the Bills have, like, an actual dude that they can hand the ball off to. Now, do they always do it? Usually not. But James Cook is not. What has been going on? You said something about pass protection last week. Yeah, same as as aq saying and that interior and we talk about all the time with quarterbacks getting them off that spot if you can get them off that spot and make them second

guess it's too many times on film when you see josh like he has to be like special to make something happen um it's not a lot of things happening really in flow it was some plays we're here to a play action roll out and it's like not even receivers really breaking into the area. So, like, things are just disjointed right now. He did play better late in that game. He made some throws, made some better decisions. But I feel like especially where Josh Allen is in his career, it's not enough, like, answers that he has, like,

when he gets the ball in his hand, know where he goes. Like, hey, it's almost backyard football. You can't make a living off that. You want to make a couple plays, like Lamar Jackson against the Lions last week. Most of his plays were from the pocket and rhythm, but they were a couple that wanted Gus Edwards to scramble around and Nelson Aguilar. Those were like the two plays where he just had to be special, and you can.

But outside of that, you want things in rhythm and flow. He also had like, what, four or five seconds in the pocket a few different times. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it was – They probably went in the trenches this week, but that offensive line kicked ass. He was very – Lamar was very comfortable in the pocket. And it's like Aaron said yesterday, like, hey, I've been a fan of Lamar since college. I've been a fan of this whole thing.

He kind of alluded to, like, the guy's been able to do this. It's like, does he get the opportunity to do it? And the opportunity is not only the play caller, and it feels like him and Munkin are certainly getting on the same page as the season rolls on, but also the offensive line giving you a chance to get through. People talk about pocket quarterbacks being able to go through their progressions.

It's like if you can't, then are you a pocket passer or are you just on the run scared for your life? It's a fascinating little dilemma that Lamar Jackson has kind of been battling over the last few years where he's such a weapon with his feet. If there isn't a pocket that's perfect, why wouldn't he utilize that to his advantage? But now through the negotiation process, he says, I want to get paid as a pocket passer. I want to play as a pocket passer. And they're reaping the benefits of it against one of the greatest defenses in football team in the entire NFL, in the Detroit Lions and many others.

Steve Young said it might have been a year, maybe two years ago. He was like, Lamar needs, it's not that he can't pass, he just needs more of a sophisticated passing game in the system. The last few years with Greg Roman, and Greg Roman has done some great things in this league, been to Super Bowl, but it was times like a third Nate and he'll have, you know, two

running backs and two tight ends and one receiver, like that's an 11 personnel, 10 personnel, three, four receivers typically on the field in the NFL. So it wasn't an offense that he could really grow and evolve in, and now we're seeing it. And you've got to have talent, too. You've got to be surrounded by good people that can create separation and make it. Zay, Aguilar, OBJ, Mark Andrews is still doing his thing. Gussie's doing his.

They're without J.K. Dobbins, who we assume is healing his Achilles faster than a human. I said likely will be back. 80. Great. Likely. 80. Great jersey. One of the best of all time.

Let's pivot away from the boys that are Lamar playing great and Josh. Hey, Josh, come on. You got it, Josh. Josh, come on. Come on. You put in the work. You did the laser thing. Trust yourself, bro.

Just go out there and play. I think that's what a lot of people are saying about Josh Allen. That might be the difference. All you got to do is have one big win, though. And everything changes. Speaking of one big win, the refs need a weekend where they're positive. Where they do good. Where they stay out of the way. Where they're able to call things how they're supposed to be called.

And not just by a rule book and trying to ruin a game, but just do your job. You know? What is the name of those documentaries coming out of New England? I believe Do Your Job. What was the motto of the greatest team in the history of the NFL? Do Your Job. What do we need everybody to do? Their job.

Bingo. And that's all we're asking for the refs, and nobody wants to be a ref. I've said this numerous times on this program, in public, on the internet. We very much understand that the job of an official, especially in football, in the NFL, is not a desirable one one it takes a special personality to want to have that type of control that type of power and that potential hate coming to you if you do not do your job correctly so we appreciate anybody that signs up to be a ref but this isn't a participation league no just because you sign up to do it doesn't mean we have to be nice to you. You've got to do your job.

We think the NFL needs to pay these refs more. We think we need to make them full-time jobs so they don't have other jobs. We think it needs to be an all-year thing where they're going to seminars and classes and trust falls with each other. I think there should be a practice squad that you can pull from where if a guy stinks, we can elevate him. I think

that is an easily done thing if the NFL wanted to with the NFL refs association, their union. I think that is needed in the sports gambling world because there's so many questionable calls and people are losing a lot of money. It's only going to get louder. It's scripted. It's scripted. That started because people started losing their money and they thought the sports books in the NFLs were working against them to screw them. The way the NFL would be working is with the refs. So every time this ref makes a bad call, it's not only affecting the game,

the players, the coaches, the fans. It's also affecting people that are in different states, people that aren't fans of the team, and they're losing money because of it. It's only going to get louder if these mistakes continue to happen that seem obvious. Now, technology is also there to help. Although some olds hate the idea of utilizing technology, I don't think it's technology's fault that it takes so long to make a correction. I think it's the user of the technology that makes it take so long for the correction.

I think we need another crew of people doing that. A younger crew. Knows the rules. Know how to work remote controls. Util utilize a PlayStation or an Xbox control, have them zoom in, replay, go ahead and see if there was a mistake made. So before that flag is even picked up, there's somebody in their ear going, pick that flag up. That is not real. And then boom, we just move right along. Kenny Pickett is clearly short.

Guy up in the booth, lady up in the booth with his thing. Short. Hey, he's short. That is not good. Let's turn this around. Has to take four seconds. Not even. Let's keep it moving. Let's use technology. Let's get the best officials. And let's not have this fodder about the NFL trying to people.

Okay? It's not good for our league. It's not good for the Shield. We have an ally. We are not just speaking into microphones. We are not just gamblers and fans that are pissed. Ladies and gentlemen, we have somebody in the one per club meeting

who is fed up with it. We have somebody who is willing to take a stand and not just stand on his own two feet. He'll stand on the table to make a change to make sure that his team is not bamboozled ever again and anybody else's team isn't bamboozled again. Ladies and gentlemen, introducing our hero for saving the official situation,

Jim Irsay tweeted last night, urgent NFL Colts news. He's breaking his own news. Hell yeah. Football emoji. Okay, Rappaport, he said, football emoji. Number five, QB Anthony Richardson's surgery today in L.A. was a success. It was a long procedure, and his shoulder injury has been repaired.

No new surprises were found during the surgery. They just repaired what was expected. Anthony is doing well, and thanks, everyone, for the support. Parenthesis, there is presently no date for his return. Parenthesis. Okay. Okay, let's go breaking news. Good to know.

I would say, Jim, if we're going to get into the breaking news world, probably should have been two different tweets, because this bottom one, also rather massive news. Now, I would say, Jim, if we're going to get into the breaking news world, probably should have been two different tweets because this bottom one, also rather massive news. And I'm not sure everybody got to the bottom football emoji because they were so pumped for Anthony Richardson's surgery. Now, AR, we hope you're okay. He's out at Eletroche, by the way. Eletroche

won Tony Achilles on Aaron and on JK. They have something in the water over there. People are healing quick. AR might be back by any season. Parenthesis, there is presently no date for his return. So we'll just make one up. This guy's back four or five weeks. We don't know. We have no

idea. Week 12. Yeah, probably next season. Anyways, the next one is what we need to talk about down here. Football emoji. The NFL admits and understands that they did not make the correct calls at the end of Sunday's Colts-Browns game. I believe we need to institute instant replay for all calls, including penalties, in the last two minutes of all games. Hell yeah, Jim Irsay!

Let's go, pal! Thank you, Jim! See, listen. Final two minutes is when it matters, they say. So if we get this pass, which Jim is in the one-per-club meeting. Jim, also oldest, longest tenured owner in the NFL. The reason, the way he found that out is that the, one of the last owners meetings, they have a list of pictures from the owners meetings where they all kind of gather. And Jim was walking down the hallway and he saw himself in the recent one.

And he kept walking down all the way down. And then all of a sudden he was the only one that was in the building that was in a photo. And he said, shit, I'm the most powerful guy. I'm the most powerful guy here? I'm the guy. Okay, where are the microphones? Dan Snyder needs to get the hell out of here. That's literally what happened.

That owner's meeting is when he started being like, wait a minute, I've been here. Palace, is it? Jerry, are you in this? minute. I've been here. Palace, is it? Jerry, are you in this? No. Okay. Shut up. Robert Craft, are you in this? No. Okay. Shut up. It's my room. You guys are coming to my office.

I've been here the longest. So whenever there's a little question mark on who needs to talk and he needs to say, don't worry, boys. I will be the one saying it. And he just kind of take on that role. He taught us that on the show pretty much. Like, hey, this is our league. We need to take this back.

This is not the agent's league. This is not the GM's league. This is not Roger Goodell's league. This is the owner's league. And he's like, I've been the longest owner here. So him talking about this, I think, has real traction. I know people think the way they think about Jim Irsay outside of Indianapolis. In Indianapolis, he is beloved.

He's also getting a little bit more active on social media. He landed a helicopter the other day, hopped on his aquatic quad, and then he rode that thing into a lake, and he said, see you later on his way out. He is certainly an electrifying human being. He sells out stadiums with playing music, with John Mellencamp and the boys. He's a rock star. He has a museum literally just for fun that he travels around.

He is certainly a one-of-one human being, but he is also somebody who's not scared to speak up and make changes in the NFL. Him being on board with the review of the final two minutes is great news. And just like they're taking away the kickoff, it's like what happens next? Like if they take away the kickoff, what's next? Once they institute this in the final two minutes, it's like, well, isn if they take away the kickoff what's next once they institute this in the final two minutes it's like wasn't the final five minutes yeah it's also important

and then it's kind of like this is the slow roll the nfl has to take to make the change so i think we have an ally i think we have a good ally and i think we're not that far away from common sense officiating i do love the gym love he just speaks his mind you know as that owner i mean driving a four-wheeler yeah into into the abyss is just, I mean, he's doing the billionaire thing right, the right way. But, yeah. Which goes into water. I'm going to head to that lake and drive in it with this before dinner.

And then we'll have fresh dinner, prepare the fried tofu, snap peas, and special pudding. That's all vegan. So we're very healthy. We're strong. We're athletic here. I bid you so long. And then he just rolls into a wave. Is that a stunt double with him?

The man. No. You think Jim Armstrong is doing a stunt double? There's a weird kind of TC. His hair is awesome, too. Let's not even. Yeah. Jim looks good.

What color is that? Just a couple months too. Let's not even... Jim looks good. He's jacked up. What color is that? Just a couple months ago. Just a couple months ago, he couldn't... He couldn't... He's very active right there. He wasn't as mobile. I think he had a surgery on something a couple months ago. I saw him. He was not moving as much.

I think he had a couple walkers with him. Seeing him do this is a big deal. Congrats to Jim being healthy. Getting rehabbed back up. Eating vegan. He's out there doing his thing. His hair's coming back. Stabbed peas. Good pudding. Fried tofu. I don't even know what that

tastes like. Special pudding. Only thing I disagree with is the replay in every call. I don't agree with that. The two minutes for sure. You know, important call. And even with the one with Kenny Pickett, he was short for sure. But every call, I don't agree with that. The two minutes for sure, important call. Even with the one with Kenny Pickett, he was short for sure. Every call, I think that would definitely be excessive. We just need the humans

that are doing the checking of the calls to be quick. The XFL had it figured out. Yes, perfect. The XFL, there's a lot of things that were fugues in state football. They were trying out a lot of stuff. They're doing their thing. Shout to the Rock. I think they merged with USFL,

which had no shot at all. USFL had no chance after the XFL did its thing, and then it's like, we're on after them. Nobody's watching. So I think The Rock does them a favor, but also they're going to help each other because there's not as many quarterbacks. But the XFL had somebody up in a booth with the Xbox controller, and it was like

in real time speaking what they saw the reasoning for the call being made and it was happening quickly it's like we can get those people in every state and we have to be able to do that in 2023 especially with the money that's available why not do that to save your product and make your product the best I think that's what Jim's probably going to get into yeah to your point though like this will just continue to be changed like Kenny Pickett, that wasn't in the last two minutes of that Rams game. It was right before the two-minute warning.

When those guidelines kind of get set, it would be interesting, but you've got to set the guidelines. Something has to be talked about. We're saying the Kenny thing. The P.I. against the Browns that the Colts did lose on, that just can't happen in the game, let alone gambling and everything just for both the teams.

If the Colts are 4-3 right now, they're looking at the playoffs. Same with the Browns. If they're 3-3, that's a much different story, especially in the AFC North. Things like that just can't happen, especially when there's 30 seconds. Even if that ball was thrown perfectly, there would be a conversation about how both sides are kind of hand-jousting it, let alone the fact that this ends up in the stands. It ends up in the stands. Just gives them a tough – I mean, it is –

The other one was more – Yeah, the illegal contact whenever a stripped sack happens. That was game over. Third and four. Here we go. Third and four, 45 seconds. Oh, my God. The Colts win.

DeForest Buckner, be an athlete. You got it. I am. He's huge. He's athletic. The Colts just got a big-time dub over the Cleveland Browns, and they scored 38 points. Oh, wait a minute.

Illegal contact. Let's make it first down. Then you do the pass interference. It's like, hey, I understand the NFL admits that they were wrong on this and everything like that, but the guy that made that call, he's just going to go out there next week, and he just does it, and we don't have to hear from him or are we checking his his family you know yeah because it felt like he was like uh they're gonna

score here uh legal strip sack no legal contact uh incomplete no pass interference uh no yeah another one like i think that guy would have called 14 of them straight if he had to that's that's the feeling i get and it's hard for me not to think that. Like, I think that guy would have called 14 of them straight if he had to. That's the feeling I get. And it's hard for me not to think that when there's a chance that guy is a middle school teacher, you know, on his side, or some other job on the side. It's like, you don't think somebody could potentially just sit down next to him and be like, hey, you know, Browns three, it's not really that much. Kind of a weird number, right?

We can make that happen, right? Yeah, easy. Yeah, man, we'll try our best. Certainly towards the end. How about Moneyline, at least? Yeah, you got it. No problem. Browns are supposed to win. Put my mortgage on it. It won't be that big of a weird number, right? We can make that happen, right? Yeah, easy. Yeah, man. We'll try our best, certainly towards the end. How about Moneyline, at least? Yeah, you got it. No problem. Browns are supposed to win. Put my mortgage on it.

It won't be that big of a deal. And it probably didn't happen, okay? Most of these humans, I assume, very good people. And we can't assume the worst, but it's hard not to take your mind there whenever you see two blatant and obvious things happen and you're potentially losing money on a gomble. Well, and like you said, too,

when there's nothing in place where if a guy has a game like this, you can't bring up someone from a practice squad. It's like, yeah, that's great that you're saying after the game, we made the wrong call. We're sorry that happened. But there's no repercussions for it. It doesn't matter. This isn't the end of the season where if something like this happens, oh, the guy isn't going to get a playoff game.

It's week seven. This guy is going to be back out there doing the exact same or having the opportunity to do the exact same thing for the next 10 weeks. So, like, even just be, like, fans are tired of the hearing immediately after the game when your team got screwed over, like, yeah, we made the wrong call, you know, and hopefully, like, that doesn't mean shit anymore because there is no repercussion. And they have, like, an AP. an ap yeah the reporters pool or whatever they have like that where i guess they answer questions sometimes but we never see it no never on camera and there's never anybody that

gets to ask like how how how did you get to the nfl and how is that what you call with those last two things officials that don't suck in every sport no okay i understand that there's a lot of anger against some officials and var and soccer I guess it's really made it even worse somehow and you talk about any other sport that has work in hockey the refs are part of the action they are the refs are a part of the game and that leads me to my favorite segment that we've started this particular season. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Hockey is Awesome! Hell yeah! Hell yeah!

I stepped out for hockey. Now listen, last night the Frozen Frenzy took over ESPN Plus and ESPN2. All 32 NHL teams played. 93 different goal scorers happened. 102 goals took place. Bucci Gross and Kevin Weeksey, former goalie in the NHL, were breaking it all down and throwing from city to city, watching the magic take place.

We got a power play. We got a shootout. We got a fight. We got a penalty. We got frozen frenzy. It was glorious. I believe the NHL's numbers are only yodeling, yodeling, yodeling, and that's because a lot of people are recognizing something

that we've had the opportunity to learn about since we were kids, being from a hockey town, that hockey is awesome. We were just talking shit about the refs in the NFL. All we've ever said a lot is we want the refs in the NFL to be like the refs in the NHL. Look at this clip from last night's Pittsburgh Penguins game against the Dallas Stars. Listen closely, shall we? On the four-check Nieto. Come up with it.

Hockenpah does. I owe you a beer. I owe you a beer. Hey, sorry about that. I got in the way there. We're on ice. We're on skates. I didn't know where you were going.

I was trying to sneak by. Ended up giving you one. I owe you a beer, pal. That's first period. That's first period. He's like, hey, hold on to this. I owe you a beer. They're a part of the game.

You've actually heard refs mic'd up before where they're like, hey, had to give you one. Had to get one here. Had to because the last period. Sorry about it. It's just like we screwed them. We got to screw you. It's just the way it goes. And everybody's like, oh, okay.

Yeah, that's how it goes. I do wonder if he took them up on that beer or maybe a vodka, maybe a whiskey. I've heard the hockey boys can certainly booze a little bit. Let's start talking about not just the refs are awesome over there. How about the equipment managers? How about the equipment managers? How about the equipment managers in hockey can actually be a part of the game?

Whenever you utilize a stick, there's a chance that that thing could break. Whenever you're on the ice and you're flying around and you've got a broken stick, you ain't worth a damn. How do you get a stick fast enough? Boom! You get an equipment manager that is like Superman, grabbing that stick, holding it over. And then what? This is Pete Rogers, equipment manager for the Nashville Predators,

handing off to Luke Evangelista. And what's he have? Breakaway. Go Tom! Silky mitts. And the boys all celebrate Pete Rogers. Pete! Pete!

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Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! P, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, P, P. So the refs are awesome. They're a part of the game. The equipment managers are getting actual assists in affecting the game. Hockey's all about the culture, all about the brotherhood. How about whenever you're playing this sport and there's a puck that's really hard. Oh, yeah. Heavy rubber. Oh, yeah. And you're getting paid millions of dollars to play.

And you've been kind of doing this for a long time. You're expected to actually move your body in front of these things. Anything to stop a goal. Well, what happens if you lose a blade on your skate? What if you can actually not skate anymore? Like what happened to old cuz right here. David Savard. Boom.

Gets hit right in the hand. Right here. Look at him. No stick. Let me get your stick. I'm back. Stay. Boom!

Loses his blade. Loses the blade. Uh-oh. What? Gets hit twice. Can't skate. Bang! Gets hit in the leg.

Oh, man. This dude ends up breaking his hand. He's out for six to eight weeks. This guy. Jeez. Loses the blade. Damn. Can, this guy. Lost the plate. Damn. Can't stand up.

Can't stand. Can't skate. Can't skate. I just can't. Help me out. Give me out of here. My hand. Give me over.

Broken hand. Bruised calf. All in one play. I'm stopping a goal no matter what. That's hockey. Hey, let's slide this guy's dead carcass off. Let's just get him off the ball. That's hockey. Hey, let's slide this guy's dead carcass off. Let's just get him off the bus. That is hockey. Everybody in the sport has that mindset. You hear about divas and prima

donnas and people that do this. Hockey says, uh-uh, that ain't this sport. You're going to lose teeth. You're going to have your hand broken. And guess what? You're expected to lay out in front of pucks yet again. Let's go to a superstar, a man whose name is synonymous with hockey and has been for a long time. And I know it's the third period. It's early in the season. But in hockey, if you get got, you got to get yours more than you get got, though. Look what happened to Kachuk last night.

This dude's skating, flying, tripped. Oh, yeah? Let's fight. Gloves down. Heavy bombs. Boom, bang, pow.. Oh, yeah? Let's fight. Gloves down. Heavy bombs. Boom, bang, pow. Right in front of his bench. All the boys.

Nobody's chiming in. It's one-on-one. Hey, take them down. Stick taps for the boys. Stick taps for the boys. So awesome. Well, how'd this happen, you say? How'd this fight happen?

Well, he was skating. Oh, you tripping? Oh, okay. Yup. Let's go. We're fighting. Come on. We need more of? Oh, okay. Yup. Let's go. We're fighting. Come on. We need more of that in the world.

Yep. Instead of him trying to do some sly stuff or maybe say something bad behind his back or maybe carry this hatred for this guy for the next two months and try to ruin his... Instead, he said, you tripped me. I don't like it. Let's fight right now. They handle each other. And Kachuk, he might have got tripped on that ice,

but he handled O'Tooch. Yeah. Look at O'Tooch's face. He beat him on the ice. Oh, boy. Boom. Tuck is his name. Tuck.

He looks like he's Tush. Got beat by old Kachuk. Tuck there with the eye. He'll get it fixed up. Hey, Tuck, I appreciate you standing in there, too. I appreciate you standing in there as well. And last but not least, we cannot talk about hockey without talking about sick dangles. Okay, every time you watch a game, you're going to see something death-defying.

They are literally on ice flying around. We watch the Olympics, and they do like a 60-second twirl thing. These hockey players are doing that at full speed with a chance of getting hit right in the mouth. 25, 30 miles an hour, death-defying speeds. What are you going to do? Oh, I don't know. I'm going to take a puck behind my back, through my legs,

and then I'm going to score and go, run it! Carter, Las Vegas Golden Knight. Yeah. Stanley Cup champion. Watch this. Back. Oh, see ya. Silky Paul Carter.

Stanley Cup champion right there. Absolute dog. And it's things like that that make you wonder, how are you not a fan of hockey? You know, you got a ref being super awesome. You got an equipment manager having an assist. You got a guy giving up his body, ending up being out for six to eight weeks

just so he can stop a goal in a period in which there's three of them and there's going to be plenty of shots laying his life on the line. You got a guy fighting just immediately. He said, well, yup, gotta fight ya. And then you see goals like that. Ladies and gentlemen, if you're not on board,

you need to get on board. Find a team. Probably the Pittsburgh Penguins. They're the greatest franchise of all time. Bruins probably. Texas hockey. Ladies and gentlemen, that is why hockey is awesome.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Love you, hockey. Joining us now, speaking of hockey being awesome, he's an American superstar that plays in Toronto,

which is the largest hockey city in, whatever, you get it. Pressure through the roof. American kid was the superstar chosen to go up and lead them. He was born in California,

raised in Scottsdale, became a Coyotes fan. Then he went to Europe to play hockey. Then he got drafted to Toronto. Last year, led the NHL in goals. An absolute stallion of a man. Ladies and gentlemen, Austin Matthews. What's up, dude? What's up, guys? Thanks for having me. Bro, thank you for joining us. I know your life is insane. Goal and an assist last night. A couple hatties to start the season. You led the NHL in goals last year.

What is it? You just have a nasty shot? You have a knack for goals? You just score goals all the time, pal? Is that what your life is? I try to. I try to. I'm lucky.

I play with some good players, so they tend to get me to puck. Yeah, I just try to put it in the net. Austin, you were drafted in 2016, so here we are, seven years later. It feels like with the NHL going to ESPN, with the frozen frenzy last night and everything that's happening around hockey, can you guys feel that there's a surge into popularity coming to the sport within the league? Yeah, absolutely. I think year after year, it's grown. It's been showcased, I showcased a little bit more. I think having ESPN broadcasting the games now and Knights Lake last night where we got every single team playing and lots of action. I think it's great for the game, great to showcase some of the great players that we have.

You're a great American player. We appreciate you, pal. Hell yeah! Hell yeah. We appreciate you. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. We appreciate it. Hey, we really do. We do appreciate the hell out of that, because obviously the NHL is very diverse and diverse. It's like countries. And we just got countries represented in that sport that aren't represented in other sports.

I guess the NBA is starting to have some similar background and past. But hockey is, you know, Americans, whenever they have a superstar, we've got to applaud the shit out of them, and that is you. You went to Europe before you went to the NHL to kind of get a taste of what professional hockey is like. How vital was that for you, and how do you think we continue to create American superstars in hockey, Austin? I mean, I think they're common.

I mean, we've got lots of great great young guys I mean like Jack Hughes uh who's come up and um you know I went over to Switzerland to play uh in my draft year so I was lucky um to go over there play against some pros some excellent NHL players and just kind of gain some experience and uh and I loved over there. If I had to do it all over again, I absolutely would. But, I mean, I think USA hockey has come a long way. And, you know, there's a lot of young talent, a lot of guys coming through the ranks that are a lot of fun to watch, that are extremely talented, that are just kind of taking the league by storm.

When you got drafted to Toronto, did you know the pressures that would come alongside the hockey town that is that city? I mean, I had an idea. I think a lot of people just kind of, you know, kind of let me know how it was going to be. But, you know, it's hard to really realize until you experience it. But, you know, it definitely comes with a lot. But I've loved my time in Toronto. I love the fans. The city is great. I've been fortunate to play and have great teammates along the way. It's been a really special ride. I've enjoyed every minute

of it. Yeah, we need you in Pittsburgh. Connor has a question for you, Austin. Yeah, Austin. Obviously, you are a massive superstar. You're one of the faces of the NHL. We were talking about it before the show. Sometimes if you're out in public with your boy, Justin Bieber, they basically make you feel like a schlub. They're not even showing you on the broadcast driver yeah it's ridiculous but does that not

get under your skin or does it more so kind of like make you wonder like why aren't I being kind of held in that upper echelon I mean even Sidney Crosby there's videos of him walking through New York and no one knows who the hell he is uh does that ever kind of get to you or do you guys think about that or talk about that in the locker room? I mean, no, not really. I think, you know, if you're out with a guy like him and his caliber and, you know, I guess like his status, like there's not too many people that are going to be on that kind of level,

right? NHL MVP. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Austin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Austin. Yeah. I'm thinking you are. I don't mind.

I don't mind. I mean, it's fine. I think, you know, hockey's getting there. It's getting bigger. I think there's being, you know, a lot more recognition now, and that's fine. All I want to do is just play hockey. So, at the end of the day, if that extra stuff comes with it, it's fine.

And if it doesn't, it's all good. I kind of asked Conor Bedard this, but it was before he even played his first game in the NHL. But it feels like hockey players' personality is super guarded. Are you guys told immediately upon getting into the NHL, hey, don't showcase who you are to anybody at any moment? Do you feel like that's an actual messaging? And why aren't there more players chit-chatting?

Because I feel like every time we talk to one of you guys, it's like, oh, the lads are pretty cool. Pretty cool guys, but we never really get to hear that. Why is that, you think, versus what other sports do with their superstars? I don't know. I mean, I think it's, I mean, it could be a lot of different things. I mean, I think hockey guys are just pretty simple, pretty simple guys pretty down-to-earth Yeah, so so I don't know but like I said the sports growing I think with you know I was being on ESPN now and just kind of getting more recognition and You know more people watching it'll it'll help grow

Grow that but at the same time. I don't mind it being Low-key when you're walking around and stuff. No, no, we're going to try to heighten that. This guy's a superstar. This guy signed a couple hundred million dollars. Yeah, this guy, big-time guy. Ty has a question for you, Austin. Yeah, Austin, I read, I think your dad played college baseball, and he also said that growing up, like, baseball was your best sport

with your hand-eye coordination. He said you were an unbelievable hitter. And with being from, like, Scottsdale and Arizona, where it's kind of you can play baseball year round was there ever a thought that you might pursue that or like what age did you know like oh no i'm i'm the shit i'm gonna be very good at hockey and i'm gonna continue to pursue this uh i mean i played baseball up until like probably 12 12 years old like right after low League. And I don't know, I think he hyped it up a lot because like he played baseball and like it was cool for us to have that experience where, you know, he was kind of teaching me and the ropes and just everything that I needed to know.

And I really enjoyed it. I mean, pretty much just hitting. I wasn't very good at everything else, but I think they knew it was just a matter of time before um you know i was gonna kind of just hang up uh hang up the bat and the cleats and be full-time in hockey because i was always that was always what i wanted to do always what i wanted to watch and play and um i really enjoyed baseball but i think they knew hockey was always my number one passion it was just kind of a matter of time so when i about 12, I gave it up and just focused on hockey.

Yeah, it sounds like your dad's lying. I mean, we don't know if you're going to baseball at age 12. So I don't know if your dad sounds like he's lying a little bit, but I appreciate him. Uncle played in the NFL. You come from a very athletic family. How's your golf game? Most of you hockey guys are super good at golf. Are you good at golf? Yeah, it's not bad. Above average, I'd say. But I'm a big tennis guy now, so I play a lot of tennis in the summer. But I love both. I love both.

Pickleball? Play a little pickleball? No. No pickleball. Oh, you're a tennis snob. That's what I just heard. Okay. Yeah, yeah.

I hate pickleball. Got it. I got it. I understand. I appreciate it. Yeah, exactly. Hey, when you get older and retired, you'll be able to play. It's a great sport.

Last question here for you from D-Bud. Definitely. Coming into the league, I've been the top pick. What was that welcome to the league moment for you? I know for us, we never forget those, but what was that for you? It's tough.

I mean, my first game, I scored four goals. That was a pretty good welcome to the league moment. To everybody else. For the league. For the league, yeah. Welcome to the Austin Matthews there.

So that was pretty special. That was my first game, so it was awesome. I had my parents there, and my mom was, like, crying in the stands. Just, like, a super emotional game for, I guess, everybody. But I'd have to put that one. It was a pretty good night. And your dad's saying, these kids should be playing baseball. Yeah, he got three.

Shouldn't have been four. Exactly. Four. Hey, good luck the rest of the way. We know you're very busy. Congrats on the win last night, and we appreciate your time, buddy. Appreciate it, guys. Thanks for having me.

Ladies and gentlemen, Toronto Maple Leaf superstar, American Austin Matthews. Yeah! Ladies and gentlemen, Toronto Maple Leaf superstar, American, Austin Matthews. Ladies and gentlemen, father of 10, COVID survivor. That's all we talk about on this show, A.J. Hawk. How you doing, A.J.? Doing great. How you guys doing? Hey, fantastic. You heard about Argo Land. It's back. How about it? Good news. It's going to change my life no question i know that yeah me too they've been looking for this son of a bitch for 150 million years plus and they found it and we're just gonna act like

this isn't a big deal aj what a pig this is a big deal 150 million somebody's been spending a lot of time a lot of you looking for this son of a bitch, and they found it right there near Australia and the boys. You know what I mean? Pretty cool. What's there? What's there right now? What's the picture?

It's Argo Land. What do you mean, idiot? Can I see a picture and not a graph or a drawing? So Argo Land is what you make of it. Yeah. Okay. It's up to you. This is like Avatar?

No. Well, that is Pandora. And they're trying to find Unobtainium. Yeah, that's a vastly different story that I've still yet to see the end of the second one. I do believe white people are bad, though. And the whales die. From what I've been told. Australian white people.

Let's move along. Okay. Not ours. Just to clarify. They got a pretty thick... Hey, hell yeah. That's the first time. Might even be New Zealand. Might even be New Zealand.

Really? Actually, maybe from Argo Land. How do we know now? Probably. It's somewhere there. Do we know if the Argo Land folks were the whites? If I know anything about the past... 150 million years I don't know. I don't think that's how that was. Southeast Asia, so I'm guessing probably not. But if I know anything

about it, whites probably showed up at some point. This is ours now. And then changed, which I'm guessing probably not. But if I know anything about it, White's probably showed up at some point. This is ours now. I wasn't there, but we agree. But 150 million years ago, all the continents were together, too. Well, Pangea. But this was before Pangea. Let's move along. Shout out to Argo Land. If you guys want to take a trip, take the family. Welcome home, Argo Land.

Take the family to Argo Land. Last night, MLB, obviously, the Philadelphia Phillies, lose to A.Q. Shipley's Arizona Diamondbacks. He's been talking about the SeaWorld character. There's also a Ginkle character that came in and was thrown to rock around. The Phillies were making contact. Goodwood just weren't able to get it out.

The NBA had its tip-off. Denver Nuggets fans were chanting, Who's your daddy? to the Lakers. That was electrifying. And then, obviously, the NHL frozen frenzy took place. What were your thoughts on last night? Quite a little Tuesday. As I was sitting at home, I'm like, this is an amazing Tuesday in sports, AJ.

Yeah, it really was. You talk about the Phillies game. That thing was – the energy was unbelievable. A lot of this. A lot of that stuff. It was fun watching that. But, honestly, I think the frozen frenzy took over. I feel like I've had a good time this morning actually watching clips of big-time

hockey fans watch the Frozen Frenzy and see how juiced they are voice-overing themselves filming the TV when old Bucci and Weeksy are on there just describing what's going on. That's been my favorite part. Some hockey purists I don't think love Frozen Frenzy. Nick, ain't that right? Didn't I hear there's some hockey purists? You can't please everybody, Pat.

There's always going to be somebody crying about something. Yeah, but the hockey purists, I do believe. They're a tough crowd. They are tough. They're like the college football crowd. A little bit. Now, the college football crowd, which I am very lucky to get a chance to speak in front of. Some of you I wish didn't exist, for sure.

But you do. And I'm very lucky to speak in front of you. They view their schools as like a religion you know it's like hey this is our religion is this and like I am the one that is not as classy enough for their religion how they see it going like those are the people that some of the people that don't like me it's like hockey people are the old purist hockey purist people very very protective of the game very any change that is even potentially on the horizon is met with sharp criticism. I remember when the stadium series started, which has been a smashing success, I would assume, for the NHL and for hockey as a whole.

They introduced a SkyCam, like a drone cam, for hockey for the first time. And as I was watching, as a person that's watched hockey my whole life, I saw it. I'm like, that is the sickest thing of all time. I'm literally running with the puck with Sidney pretty much as we're going into it. It was like, this is awesome. Go to the internet to say it's awesome and then all of a sudden you've got people,

we don't need new gimmicks. Okay, we don't need new gimmicks. It's an interesting transition period because I do believe hockey is about to get put up in the forefront a lot more in the future years and I'm happy that we're kind of a part of it nick yeah and especially getting to experience and experiment something like that that's the thing it's like you got to grow the game everyone knows you got to grow the game how do you do that you don't keep doing the same things you have to try new things

and expose it to people and that was one way to do it now red zone it's different football is a completely different sport it lends itself to being able to watch multiple games at once with breaks and everything hockey it's a little bit tougher because of the constant flow of the game and everything. But I think they'll figure it out. It was a good start, I think. Yeah, I think it was a good start. I watched. I mean, I was watching that entire thing.

Weeks, he got up and went to another studio at one point. He was kind of moving. Bucci was handling. I think what they need to do, and I'm not the person in charge of anything. People are much smarter than I am. But there was a couple times where they would send over to something someone hockey's like not a very there's a lot of oh every yeah well every like 10 seconds i'll miss ah my close might be a goal might be a goal might be a goal i think they should almost like like golf you know you're

going to the 14th hole with some guy you never heard of he He's 150 yards out. I'm assuming he's putting this thing real close, like whenever you're watching golf. And golf is just like banger, banger, banger. Almost need that for hockey, I think, for that frozen frenzy. But it's not as easy to handle, I think. AJ, did you spend your time with the frozen frenzy last night? I spent a good chunk of my time with it.

I just thought of the logistics of all the people behind the scenes trying to put all the clips together in real time. It seems overwhelming to feel like, hey, if I was a part of that broadcast. Yeah, you did great work, though, Frozen Frenzy team. I did. You did great work. We watched it.

Congrats. The NBA had a great tip-off. And World Series starts on Friday for you, AQ. I'm sure you know that. Can't wait. Good luck. Monday back in Arizona. Who's the rookie?

Who's the rookie that's killing it? Corbin Carroll. P-Fat. Man. No, that's Fad. That's P-Fat. He's a pitcher. That's not how you say his name.

Yeah, you don't know the team. You hate the team. Talking about the lefty that's hitting the ball. I can imagine. Nicknames for all. Yeah, Corbin Carroll. Yeah, Corbin Carroll, obviously. That's who we know.

Stud. We didn't pay attention to all the Diamondbacks. A guy who knows baseball said he'd retire and quit what he's doing. He's been doing it for 40 years if they were to win. I mean, how am I supposed to know to pay attention to this team? Exactly. I will say, they caught my attention all. Yeah.

What they were able to do, they went right into the bedlam in the bank and stole two, game six and game seven, and now they're in the World Series. Good for them. Kendrick, WVU guy. That's right. WVU guy. There we go. WVU guy. That's right. WVU guy. There we go.

WVU guy. That's good. That's what we've been hoping for them the whole time. You know what I mean? Now, granted, no Bryce Harper on the show. Nobody from the Diamondbacks has been on the show. Don't know if we'll be able to get anybody from either of these teams on the program, so we're not going to be dialed in at all in that particular fashion.

But World Series baseball is a must watch. Oh, it is. And we could maybe try to get minority owner George W. Bush for the Texas Rangers. If we're lucky, if the stars kind of align. Yes! Let's go! Are you kidding me? I do not know if

I'm the right human to be directing a conversation with George W. Bush. Who do you think threw a 95 down the middle for opening pitch? I saw his dad flip that coin for the Super Bowl there at the end. I don't think they should have had him do that. I think that may be potentially changing. Rest in peace to him, obviously. Thank you for your service to the United States of America.

We can do both teams, too. After we get W, we can have AQ's pride and joy Arizona. That lady governor, who's unbelievable at what she does, can have her on, too, to represent the W. What are you laughing about, AQ? I don't think I know what you guys are talking about. I don't know what he's talking about, either. AJ, you know what he you laughing about? I don't think I know what you guys are talking about. I don't know what he's talking about either. AJ, you know what he's talking about?

I don't know. I'm trying to figure it out. Joining us now is a man who lives in Arizona. He might know what the hell is going on. I assume he's a massive Diamondbacks fan. Just because he's a good guy. He also hosts a softball game every single year. I think it's back now, actually.

That has raised millions of dollars for charity. And every single time that game takes place, all you see is him busting out of a baseball jersey, hitting bombs down in Houston. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the third member of the Houston Texans Ring of Honor, a future first ballot Hall of Famer, an absolute dog of a human.

Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Wong. Hey, thank you. A.J., I mean A AQ, got something for you. Yeah, let's go. I need that. Randy. I know you're a new fan. That's right. I'm a new fan, so I got you one.

Thank you. Randy, by the way, you make auto parts for the American man or American people because that's what you are. Is that what you're wearing? You can get a better look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a bull's ass, but wouldn't you rather taste the butcher's word for it? Well done.

All right. Very thankful for you every single week bringing up incredible movies of our past so we can have great nostalgia. You know who Tommy Boy is? Of course. Did you watch Mighty Ducks? Rest in peace. Did I do what?

Did you watch Mighty Ducks? No, I did Did I do what? Did you watch Money Ducks? No, I did not. I mean, are you kidding me? DJ B. What are you doing, DJ B? Look at this guy. Look at this guy. Look at him.

Look at him. They got too many options these days, man. We got all this. You had one job. You had one job. Yeah, he's got six jobs. That's a problem. I tried, JJ.

I tried. You did not try. It sounds like you didn't even make an effort. No, you literally didn't. You literally did not try. Sorry, guys. It's all right. You know what?

Know this one, though. Okay, that's good. Doesn't matter. That is great to hear. But the Mighty Ducks one, I think you need it in your life, actually. You know? Especially about halfway through the season right now. You've been working hard.

Did it age well? Yeah. Yeah. Did Gordon Did it age well? Yeah! Did Gordon Bombay age well? Minnesota Miracle Man did it age well. Yeah, it did it age well. What a joke. It's disgusting. You sound like an idiot. He did know Tommy Boy, though.

That's a good movie. Great movie. Let's move along here. JJ, how's Burnley doing? I heard we stink. What's going on? We are finding ways that don't work so that we can find ways that do work. You get Bournemouth. You'll get Bournemouth this weekend. You got anything else you want to tell me? Anything else you want to give me advice on?

I have a large wager on you guys against Bournemouth this weekend, JJ. I believe in your squad. Yeah, I didn't even know Bournemouth was a team. Yeah, so good luck against Bournemouth. You guys need to get a win over Bournemouth. Yeah, boy, oh, boy. Yeah, if you don't beat Bournemouth. It's going to get loud.

Especially from that Canadian man back there. Gumpy, what's this Burnley squad do well that we can tell JJ? Do you know? They don't defend terribly. Okay. Okay. I mean, that is 100% the opposite correct answer. I mean, I don't know.

I don't know. You lost 3-0 to Brentford. JJ, what do you want me to say? Brentford stays. Well, I can tell you, if you let in three goals, you probably shouldn't say the defending. Well, you didn't score either. What do you want me to say?

You had a red card. Not even the discipline was good. Get the boys going. We've got to win a match. Gene. We have belief. We have optimism. We are going to find a way.

It is the American Minority Owners Bowl this weekend. Michael B. Jordan is a minority owner in Bournemouth. And obviously myself and Burnley. Are you guys going to be there? Are you going to fight before the game? Kick his ass. No. No, that would be – that already happened in Creed 2 or Creed 3.

It was a draw. And he won. He is. He did win. He is. He's a property job. Property job. Yeah, maybe shake his hand instead of punch him in the face.

He played football last year. Good-looking human being. He's a good-looking human being. Yeah. All right. That's a good transition, actually. I saw maybe the best put-together human being of all time this weekend, up close and personal.

And I know that you are a strapping lad, big man. Wasn't able to use your golf club at the hole for a challenge. Waste management. Waste management thing where I'm on 60 to 80 milligrams, and I get dropped into maybe the most electrifying environment of all time, and I didn't even have a golf club, so I need JJ's. It was way too big. It was like a hockey stick.

I couldn't use that. So I had to use one of the fake ones. And then people say, you duffed it. No shit. I had no idea. That was awesome. I mean, you were trying to hit that golf ball from a spaceship, Pat. You were flying high. Normally pretty good at it.

I didn't have a good handle of that club. Nonetheless, you are incredibly built human. You're big. You're strong you're fast you're fierce blah blah blah Myles Garrett this thing I've never seen anything like this obviously that is what he looks like without a shirt on so that's a nice little thing to have whenever you look in the mirror congrats to Myles Garrett being strapped absolutely but then you watch him play

football he's seemingly unblockable he knows what the Colts were gonna do he jumps over the guard and the center from a four-point stance at 270 pounds it's like he's unstoppable is this guy it and I know in the pass rush community there's a lot of guys on Mount Rushmore and everything like that but he has to be talked about as one of the guys like of all time right already is that how you're feeling he's an incredible player man and some of the things that he does from a physical stamp I mean the field goal block was truly like an impressive thing i mean they basically tried to ban the jump over a few years ago because you can't put your hands on somebody's back while you're jumping over which is what a lot of guys

did so he just said screw it i don't even need to put my hands on anybody's back i don't even need to be standing up i'll just do it from a four point. I mean, he is an impressive, athletic, physical freak. And then you combine it with good pass rush moves, with the ability to do some of the things he does against double teams, against anything. I mean, this play against the Colts is a great example. The Colts put two guys on him. Now, A, if you're going to put two guys on him,

I want to show this play from a different angle, from this angle. So let's take this play. You've got the tight end and you've got the tackle. Both guys are now on Myles Garrett. So if you're that tight end, you want to push Myles as wide as possible so that he has the furthest distance to go and also pass him off to your tackle. The first thing the tight end does is kind of switches his feet, and Myles also knows he jumps the ball, so he's off the ball quicker than the tight end.

So already, boom, he's past the tight end. Now, if you're the tackle, AQ, you can talk to this. If I know that I've got a tight end to help me and he's going to push Miles wide, I'm going to set back even further because I know I can get in front of him and then make it tough. I feel like that didn't happen here because this is way, way, way too easy for Miles just to run directly past two people. Give me your thoughts, AQ. AQ, what the hell happened? That was right in front of our sweep, way, way too easy for Miles just to run directly past two people. Give me your thoughts, Hank.

Hank, what the hell happened? That was right in front of our suite, by the way. Like literally right in front of our suite. Made eye contact with Miles Garrett. Right about there? Nope, not yet. He sees that the balls are covered. They have a touchdown.

This game's probably over. And he turns around and starts doing the shrug thing. Right there. We are making eye contact. And then he just starts doing the shrug thing. Right there. We are making eye contact, I believe. And then he just starts doing this one, and then he starts bouncing all the way off the sideline, and then the fourth Miles Garrett chant started from the Cleveland Browns fans that traveled very well.

Why are they setting so shallow? That guy should have been getting straight back as fast as he could, AQ. Coach him up. Listen here, the thing that he's not talking about, they're also sliding the line that way. So if I'm the tackle, I want to almost get to almost head up because I know my guard has my inside too. So I'm flying back there, getting depth, staying square.

You looked at him immediately, and he opened his shoulders. It's a classic no-no from a tackle. You know it, JJ. Gives him a two-way go, and then he's just able to run the home. Hey, the whole place was chanting Miles Garrett. You know? That? Well, I mean, it was incredible. I mean, like he

that was one of those games where he almost single-handedly did it by himself and those are incredible and impressive. I mean, he's literally putting points on the board for his team right there. Well, the blocked kick too. He's taking points on the board for the other. I mean, it's just, he's every, he was everywhere. No offense, though.

No offensive snaps. There, there he is. I think they'll show that from the other end. Oh, yeah. I mean, geez, like, come on. Like, that's like playing a game on easy mode, and it's just, it just looks cool, too. I mean, it just looks really cool, man. Well, you have to, so, the amount of confidence

it takes, obviously, and we've seen him box jump in the offseason where he's up over like 50 inches or 60 inches, whatever it is, and he's hopping up onto, and it's absolutely absurd. But he has to have the get off because that snap is going to be quick. So you can't get too high. You have to get kind of like a quick up and down, but you can't touch the center or the guard because that would be a penalty even if you touch him at all.

It's just like the amount of confidence, control, explosion. He's up before anybody else. I mean, he's moving. The explosion is incredible. I mean, like to go from that crouched position and to be able to do that, I mean, I've box jumped really, really high before, and I'm proud of my athleticism. I don't know if I could have accomplished that in that fashion.

It was incredible. Well, for the brand headquarters, thank you. Because if Miles Garrett's going to start doing that on every kick, we're going to have to change some shit. You know, that's going to have to really change some stuff. I was going to ask if you, if you saw that coming over the line, are you pulling the ball and running? No. So I saw Jamie Collins.

He did it, New England Patriots. He jumped. So we would go on two, three, one, you know, because Vinatieri was confident enough for us. Like, I could yell as much as I want. It's not going to affect him. Younger kickers, I don't think you can necessarily do that. It's easier to get a kind of a read on a younger kicker

who maybe can't handle that. But Jamie had something. He knew exactly when we were snapping it, and he sprinted. He jumped over Overton, just completely over. And as I'm catching the snap i'm actually looking at him and i in my head i'm thinking like too high he's gonna get down we'll be able to get this almost nah hit him like right in the chest he blocked he blocked the hell out of it was one i almost pooped my pants but i did chase the ball down just in case you know but uh

i don't know if you're gonna pull that when miles garrett's in your you know no like this is he knew oh gee go back to the beginning there yeah he knew oh my god oh my god oh oh yeah he protects himself from the ball yeah he almost got hit right in the balls and uh other angle there there i think they'll have a back angle you can actually see me look up and see him while I'm catching the football. I mean, yeah, I just double clutched there. What is that? I didn't think that was legal, but he started one yard off the ball because you're not allowed to be within a...

He almost got to the ball, too. He almost made it to the ball. Well, I was going to tackle whoever picked it up. You know that. JJ, you've seen me in action. Obviously, you understand that I was going to level. I was going to headhunt whoever thought they could take a point off the board for Adam Vinatieri i think they'll show a bat what's that what are you looking at yeah here it is oh my good yeah bro it is so you pop your head up yeah it is here this is probably going to be oh yeah oh yeah yeah so old buddy saw miles

garrett rigoberto sanchez certainly saw Miles Garrett. It's just like such a what the hell is that? And I think people think that's easy to do because two people have accomplished it in history. It's not. The amount of timing, everything, Miles Garrett's at a different level. Sorry, AJ, go ahead, pal. I don't know. JJ, say you were an offensive coordinator, a hypothetical situation here.

What would your plan be to try to block guys like Miles Garrett, like your brother tj that not only like are they just absolute game wreckers but you never really know where they're going to line up they can line up anywhere hand on the ground stand up in the middle whatever it is like what can you do against these people yeah i mean the funny thing that we talk about that play that we just talked about is that the number one thing that i want to do if he's on the edge is i want to widen him out as far as possible so i put a tight end or a bunch or something in his way to make him line up wider so he's physically further away from the quarterback and then I also want to have either a chip or a double team or something like that which they also have on this play and then I like AQ was talking about I want to slide because I want I want that tackle to know that he can overset so that we can force him to go inside and have help.

None of that obviously happened on that exact play, but that's the thing that frustrated me the most. If you put a guy out there to widen my stance and then you also slid the line my way, now I got to beat that tight end. Now I got to beat that tackle and probably have to beat a guard also if I didn't underneath move. And then the other thing on that play that we didn't really talk about is the quarterback drifts just a little bit, which then allows you to really run that hump because a quarterback stays at seven or eight yards. That's the toughest spot to get to for us, that seven or eight yard window. Once you start to drift back to nine yards, 10 yards, or you start to move off the spot, it does become easier to get to the quarterback at that point.

So if you've got guys in the middle that can push the pocket back and get the quarterback to drop back to nine or ten, then you've really got a good shot. I'll tell you what. So a couple guys made mistakes on that play. We gave that Browns defense all they could handle, though. Gardner Minshew II was running wild out there. 38 points.

38 points. I loved everything about it. I mean, you guys are putting them up. You guys are putting points up down there. What is the stat? The only team. Yeah, the only team in the NFL to put over 20 points. Shane Steichen.

Impressive. Shane Steichen, baby. Fun to watch. Put the banner up. Yeah, put the banner up. Amen, brother. We need to celebrate the little things. Life's already hard enough. to watch. Put the banner up. Yeah, put the banner up. Amen, brother. We need to celebrate the little things. Life's already hard enough.

Come on. Put the banner up. We're the only team that has scored 20 points yet. Now, also, Anthony Richardson, successful shoulder surgery. How about that? That's great news. Hanging it. Hanging it.

Future of the program is coming back better than ever. You mentioned your brother there, and you talked about, like, Miles Garrett got triple teamed there. I don't think I realized that. That card was certainly eyes looking out at him. No doubt. You have handled that, obviously, throughout your career. TJ has handled that through his career. What we saw TJ do this weekend, though, a little drop in the coverage,

looked like an athlete. Now, granted, gets tackled. Sure. Need to end in the paint there, probably. That's tough. But this play, first play of the second half, certainly a way to start this thing. He had a little disguise on that as well jj yeah i mean this this uh this is one of those plays

where i actually like a lot of stuff he does i'm like yeah okay all right nice play good play this is one where i was like all right i'm actually impressed by this play so he's dropping into coverage he's obviously got some form of responsibility out there either it's a hook curl or it's some he's helping with the flat. But he kind of baits them into this throw here, leaving it open and then breaking at the exact perfect time, coming across and making a play. I mean, he legitimately looked like a proper defensive back or linebacker here. I mean, he's making this break before Matt even takes his front hand off the ball,

already knowing where he's going to try and go with it. I mean, that is a hell of a play look at dj unreal athlete and then i mean they hands the offense the ball inside the 10 yard line and that was that was honestly a game-changing point in the game for them and i mean we've talked about it all year long like that defense is really literally putting points on the board for the offense and helping keep the Steelers. I mean, four and two top of the division. It's the toughest division in football there. That was a great, great play.

He keeps that ball. Yeah. You guys keep balls. I don't know if you keep that one. I think if you score, you might keep it. The one we always talk about, which is fumble recoveries. Like we never, ever keep a fumble recovery because we didn't do anything special we just fell on a ball that was laying on the ground

so we always talk about those ones where it's like they come and try and hand us the ball and i'm like what did i do i did nothing special here i just grabbed it that's awesome so that was always your rule and then tj just has to live by it because JJ lived by it pretty much? No, he agreed. He was like, he agreed. I think the Alex Highsmith one earlier in the year where TJ picked it up and went and scored, Alex kept trying to give TJ the ball and TJ was like, dude, you did the hard part. I literally just picked up the pieces and made it happen. So yeah, we kind of know what is hard to do and what is easy to do and recovering a fumble is pretty easy. You Watts are awesome. Go ahead, Tom. made it happen. We kind of know what is hard to do and what is easy to do.

Recovering the fumbles is pretty easy. You Watts are awesome. Go ahead, Tony. I just want to let you know, if someone ever asked you would you take a bullet for your brother, you could say no because I'll step right in and I'll take a bullet for that man. How about that? How about that? I'll be right behind him in case it goes to him. Thousands of other yinjas are behind him.

That high school ref that everybody learned about, he's got, listen, first down, second down, I'll be third down for the boys for TJ Watt. I mean, that is really how Pittsburgh feels. What a perfect fit of a guy, honestly, with a city. Oh, it's fun, man. It's really cool to see and I know, I mean,

when he signed his contract, his extension, you know, there are some people saying that was too much. It was more guaranteed than they'd ever given, a lot of things like that. But, I mean, I'm proud of him. I think the goal is to always try and be underpaid or prove that you're worth what they're giving you and give the fans and give the city everything that they deserve.

When I watch him play, I'm extremely proud as an older brother because I feel like he does that every time he steps on the field. We got to be there one time for him coming out last, and it was banana. The place, big pop, not easy to win over Pittsburgh. But I'll tell you what, you're TJ White, and you say, don't give me that ball. I fell on a fumble.

That ain't worth a damn. It's like you can just take it to the kids. You just want to have it. Somebody else's ball, you ended up with it. No, it's disgusting to the kids. You just want to have it. Somebody else's ball, you end up with it. Nah, it's disgusting. I don't want to do it. Don't do it. This brings up another conversation. I'm fascinated to get your guys' opinions on

game balls. Do you have them all up in your house? If the whole team got a game ball, are you putting that one up? How do you do it? AJ, you first, pal. Yeah, they're in my basement in a thing somewhere. Yeah, in like a container. Basically all my stuff is, I think.

I would like to let everybody know that I have no clue where my game balls are. I got one basically every single win, too. I got most of them in my garage, but I got a few of them in the office. Did you say you got a game ball every single win? Pretty much, yeah, dude. I mean, I was unconscious there for like four years. Every punt was perfect. I really was.

I mean, it was absurd. It was absolutely. And Vinny didn't miss for like two years. So it was pretty much just like special teams, thank you. Here's a couple game balls. Let's move along. Like it was. It was kind of like that.

Yeah, not before that. Like the last three years pretty much of my career. A hell of a unit. Yeah, we. It was a hell of a. Yeah, we. Like the last three years, pretty much. I had a hell of a unit. It was a hell of a unit. The 4th Down Army was a unit. Yeah, we kind of handled our shit there for a bit. We've lost a couple of them, you know, real life stuff. But, boy, we were really getting after it. Yeah, what do you do?

You have a, I assume they're all framed? Just literally put them up in my gym. Shipyard. I got some good team balls, though. You know, Super Bowl champ. Oh, yes, guys. I got some good ones to hang up on the wall. That is awesome.

We had a couple guys on our team get them that, you know, like, half a pressure, good leadership. Oh, yeah. What a speech on the sideline. Game ball, you know. Who's that? AJ? Yeah. No, AJ wasn't. AJ was on our... I've never been in there. It was good. Those were always great, though.

It's like, I don't know if that person deserved it. Now, what does my game ball mean? Nothing. Jeez. If that guy's getting... What does anybody... We can't take any of this serious. And then you get outside our team meeting, it's like, did you see? And we're like, yep.

This is all bullshit. I was really proud of myself. I had a pretty good game. Connor has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, JJ, we all know the real reason you wore that shirt is because it's got that Kelly Green look to it, and you just love those alternate jerseys. And I know that is exactly why you wore that. But what did you see from the Eagles this weekend?

I believe Jalen Carter had himself a game, and that entire D-line once again showed up. A, you're correct. The Kelly Green looked phenomenal, incredibly uniform. B, the Eagles' defensive line seems to just be constantly reloading with incredible talent year after year. And obviously you can say pretty much the same thing about the offensive line. But watch this play.

Rewind it. Go back to the start. Now I want you to imagine your Tua standing there. Watch this defensive line and you tell me what you're supposed to do when this comes at you. You got Jalen Carter literally throwing his dude directly on the ground. You got the two edges flying off. Tua's backed up 15 yards before the plays even got a chance to do anything. I mean, they've got Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham who have been there

forever and who have been crushing forever. Then you add Hassan Riddick on the edge who's just, in my opinion, still underrated, playing incredible. And then another underrated guy on the other side, Josh Sweat, who's playing incredible football this year. I don't know how they constantly get away with it, but every year they just seem to reload that defensive line and add to the pieces they already have.

And I think that the reason they're being so successful is because they start with that O-line and D-line. I mean, they've done a really good job. Sirianni has actually said that because his father at IUP in western Pennsylvania said the only way you win is through the offensive line and defensive line, baby. And he told Howie that. That's right. O-line, D-line, Howie.

O-line, D-line, Howie is how we're going to win that thing. And they built a team like that. And I think that's how every team should build. Don't you think? Yeah. And then you add a guy like Byard, and now they have even more time to rush the passer. I mean, they've already got a great defense going,

and you add a guy like that. I mean, they've built it well up there, and obviously when you've got a guy like Jalen leading the whole way who is very calm and collected and seems to be poisoned under control, it's an impressive outfit, man. Yeah, Byard is excited, I assume, to get to the Eagles. And the Kelly Green, if they wore it every week,

he would be pumped about. But he is missing out on because he got traded maybe the greatest throwback jersey in the NFL. Here we go. You chose violence. Here we go. No, I'm just saying, like, Bayard was informed that he was traded to Philly.

He's like, wow, I got to move. I want to go. But I don't even get a chance to wear throwback jerseys this week. These are the best ones in the entire NFL. So that's a bummer for Bayard, man. All right. All right. All right.

Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it. Well, we do Jersey Talk every week. Yeah, we do Jersey Talk. Let's talk about it. You want to talk about Talk every week. Yeah, we do Jersey Talk. Let's talk about it. You want to talk about it? Okay. Let's unpack that, JJ.

We're going to upset some people, which is fine, but it's a real, legitimate conversation that I would like to have. I also know that you're just trying to distract from the uniform situation you had going on last week. Hey, look. 38 points on the best defense in the history of the NFL. So if you want to distract on that, the boys were flying around. All black would have definitely been cooler.

And they thought they had a primetime game at some point because they called it Indiana Knights. Only team with no primetime game. You know, there's a new rule. Amazon said not everybody just gets a Thursday night game anymore. And we were the ones that lost out on that. So Indiana Knights in the afternoon against Cleveland and losing. Obviously tough, but they look cool.

Let's get back to the good. Yeah. Let's get back to the good. Okay. I will say this. The Oilers uniforms look phenomenal. There was never a question if they were going to look phenomenal. They look incredible.

They are one of the best uniforms in sports. Obviously, being from Houston, we've talked about this before, and I know Tennessee fans are going to be all up on my mentions again, but the reality of the situation, and I'll explain it one last time, is I lived and played in Houston. I wanted to wear those uniforms very badly. They have such a massive history and tradition with Love You Blue, with Bum Phillips, with everything that went on there. I understand at the end with Bud Adams and everything that happened in the move. I don't even want to get into all of that. I also love Amy Adams Strunk. She's incredible. She donated to the Hurricane Harvey fundraiser. Nothing against

her, nothing against that organization. I loved playing in Tennessee every time I played there. I just know having lived in Houston for 10 years and the people there and the connection that they have to Earl Campbell, to Warren Moon, to these guys that wore those, to Billy White Shoes, these guys that wore those uniforms and what that meant when they played in that Astrodome,

it hurts to not have been able to wear those in Houston and it hurts to see them being worn somewhere else. Man, we're heartbroken for Houston. Bullshit. I don't like it every week. Titans do that. That sucks. Right in the face, they're shoving it. How about the NFL marketing it too?

Ooh, look at these guys. He's so sick. You'd think Braves would have some sense of history since he was in Houston. This is Braves' fault. Yeah, and we don't know if Braves is promoting it or he's allowing it. We know that.

He's promoting New England. Think about the sideline gear, too. The sideline gear is going to look incredible. Hats are going to be great. Give him the old school starter coats, too, on the sidelines. Oh, yeah. Maybe a white sweatshirt with just the Oilers logo right in the center. I mean, it's just a good look.

It's just a good look. I thought the Titans were going to do it against the Texans. Yeah, I don't know. They are. They are. Later in the year. Oh, they're going to wear it again? Twice?

I believe so. Whoa. I thought so. I thought that was. Is it in Houston? I thought they were doing it against the Texans. You're coming in to town. Look at me. Look at us. I thought that was. I could be Texans. You're coming in to town. Look at me.

Look at us. I could be wrong. I have no information. I don't do any research for this show. Respect. Me neither. If they do, you can't lose that game against Houston. You have to avenge your...

And then the winner of that game should get the uniforms. Oh, pink slips. I like this. winner of that game should get the uniforms. Oh, pink slips. I like this. That's a good idea. I like this. Let's do pink slips for the uniforms. That's cool. That's curious.

Yeah. So maybe Houston wears the white one, and then they wear the baby blue one. Oh. So then both teams can wear the throwback. Yes. And then it's a battle for who gets to keep it. And on the field, the other team. Has to, yeah.

Take them all off. Take them all off. Leave naked. Never wear them again. Yep. Yeah. See ya. That's a great idea. Sweet.

Come on, Rog. You want to evolve again? Can you think of, if you think of the Oilers uniforms, where do you think of them playing? Like, can you think of one single memory of them playing anywhere but the Astrodome? Pittsburgh Steelers. They play a lot of games at Three Rivers Stadium, Donner. Whatever it was. I meant home games.

AFC Central. I was talking home games. I meant home games. Do you have any memories of the Oilers wearing them in Tennessee? We weren't alive yet. I can't see Aaron McNair airing it out wearing that uniform. Rest in peace, by the way. He used to be able to sling that thing.

Vince Young, when he was running around wild when he was a rookie. Oh, yeah. All over the place. Did Vince Young wear those uniforms? Yeah, they were throwbacks. Of course. Jake Locker. Yeah.

Jake Locker, Hasselbeck, Charlie Whitehurst. Yeah, speaking of Jake Locker, shout out Bill Levis getting a start this weekend. Yeah, Will Levis is going to look great in these things. CJ 2K. It's a new history. That's what they're trying to build. Hop gets to wear them. The first thing I texted Hop when he signed with the Titans, I said,

those uniforms are going to look good on you, bud. Oh, so this is... So every week, JJ would like to talk about uniforms. Every single week. This is a real thing that's happened in conversations before show. So now we're learning that maybe it all started because of Houston getting screwed out of their own uniforms. Sounds like it. Is that what it is, JJ?

Is that what all started? What do you mean? Yeah, that's what I've been saying the whole time. No, but I'm saying you have an obsession with uniforms. You like uniforms. I'm a uniform aficionado, yes. I grew up reading UniWatch in like 9th, 10th grade. I would always see what's going on, all the little intricacies.

I love the little patches and the little details. Yeah, I'm very big on the uniform game. I love it. And then he went to Houston, and they got screwed out of the best uniform in the game. That's quite a recipe for a guy to have a little bit of a vendetta here in 2023. Excited to see what happens. Maybe they'll do pink slips for it.

Good, AJ. Jase, what do you think about these college teams having like seven different alternate uniforms? They play a big game, and all of a sudden, they have a completely new thing we've never even seen. Are you a fan of that? It really depends on how good they are. Like, I do think that the traditional teams with great uniforms don't need to change it up.

I mean, I think Alabama, Penn State, you know, USC, like some of those iconic uniforms. I think even you look at Notre Dame and the iconic great uniforms that they have, sometimes when they switch it up, you kind of look at it and you're like, you're Notre Dame. You don't have to switch it up. You guys, you did it. But then you look like some of Oregon's combinations are phenomenal and incredible and, I mean, really, really cool.

So it just depends on how good you do it and how well you execute it I mean I grew up watching the Miami Hurricanes and I was a massive Hurricanes fan and those jerseys when you know Ken Dorsey and that whole team Willis McGahee and those guys were out there balling those I love those uniforms what about the West Virginia ones what about the West Virginia ones you like them I do I do West Virginia just uh I'm trying to think, they did a uniform. I think they did one of those, like, uniform reveal things, but they showed how they went and shot it. And maybe that was Appalachian State.

Yeah, it was Appalachian State. They were in the waterfall. Two different schools. They're both Mountaineers. Yeah, that's right. Trust the card. Those two mixed up. This is disgusting.

Country Roads, though. They did the Country Roads jersey last year. Oh, yeah. And the West Virginia Hawks. Yeah, phenomenal. I like the West Virginia colors. I like West Virginia. I'm a fan. I was actually going to look into part of my weekly thing.

I'm trying to find possibly a Pat McAfee high school jersey. 99 pounds. It's going to be tough to find. I wore a quad XL 99 shirt. Because gross. That thing was massive. So big. Tucked it in my pants. My knees. Because gross. That thing was massive. So big.

Tucked it in my pants. Like my knees, like through the pants, you could see. It's a jersey. It's awesome. Thanks, Coach. Did you have the pants where you got to still slide in the thigh pads, knee pads, but then put the belt loops through the hip pads? What a nightmare that was, man.

Yeah, that was a nice welcome to football thing. You know, like then obviously the whole shoulder pads thing, but the belt loop with the tail pad and the hip pads and having to time them up and do that whole thing. I'm not a seamstress. What am I doing here? But I feel like I've taken it. And you wash your high school pants like once every two months, maybe. I mean, those things were rank.

Yeah. Well, I didn't sweat much. I mean, I was there on Fridays. I'll see you guys next Friday. But it was a good time. Whoa. Okay. The way you're saying that, a little bit disrespectful.

Yeah. I mean, I forgot. I mean, did you play soccer and football in high school? Do kickers allow to do that? In Pennsylvania, yeah. I assume that was everywhere. There's some places where they don't let them do that, though. There's some states where that is not allowed.

Most places they don't. Most places they don't do that. That doesn't make much sense to me. I don't know why you would. No sense. Those places are stupid. So they're at the same season, so you would go to soccer practice and football practice?

First game I actually came from. No, I wouldn't go to football practice. So first game I played, I came from a soccer game. I to football practice uh so first first game I played I came from a soccer game I showed up like 20 minutes before the game started pretty much first game I ever played for the high school team had no idea I was joking I didn't know this was serious yeah what are you talking about oh yeah this is a real deal I do a few Thursday practices yeah we worked on a couple fakes never got called which is a damn shame I should have had six seven touchdowns.

Well, you had that one, though, where it was a bad snap. It was a bad snap. You just showed up on Fridays and slaughtered balls. Slaughtered balls. I used to just murder balls. The boys were actually pretty excited to see me, too. It wasn't like I wasn't friends with the football team, either. It was like, hey, how's the week been?

Pretty good. We went 2-0. I was supposed to make it for soccer. I had like 10x the amount of scholarships for soccer than I did for football. And not a lot of people at our school get scholarships for sports. So it was like a lot of people were just trying not to mess it up. Like, like coach Romito was our football coach. And he was like, I am not going to mess up what you have going on with soccer. I'm like, I'm kicking 70 yard field goals. I think we should, I think we should maybe, I think we should maybe,

I think we should maybe think about it or whatever, But, yeah, I just showed up on Fridays, and it was obviously a welcome to football moment when I went to college. And it was like, oh, I went into a summer workout, so I'm there every day, every practice, every meeting. And it was like, oh, this is the football world. Holy shit. What an interesting place this is that you guys have lived in. It's been awesome. Ty has a question for you, JJ.

JJ, for the Lions D, is this last weekend just kind of the definition of a bury the ball, bury the film kind of game when they're so good coming in and then the Ravens score touchdowns, I think, on their first four possessions and the game's pretty much over? And then on the flip side of that, how humbling is it to go against a guy like Lamar Jackson, regardless if it's someone like you who is it to go against a guy like Lamar Jackson regardless if it's someone like you who is going to be a future you know a first ballot hall of famer like how humbling is it knowing you're an incredible athlete and then you can still go on the field and that guy can make you

just look like a moron oh yeah it is uh it is very humbling and the funny thing about it is there are times when you can do everything exactly right against Lamar. So when you're playing against Lamar, and the Lions, I got a clip that I can show you that does this. So when you're playing against Lamar, what our defensive coordinator would tell you is, guys, we have to rush to the level of the passer and keep him contained in the pocket. We don't want to give him escape lanes and the B gaps. We want to rush to the level. So right here, look, both outside guys are at the level of the quarterback. We've got basically the inside gaps pretty much covered up. He has nowhere to escape.

This picture is exactly what your defensive coordinator wants to see. This is exactly how we see it. Well done, Lions! Way to go! Great job, guys. You crushed it. Congrats. Oh, yeah. But we are playing against Lamar Jackson. So even though we did everything

as good as we can possibly do it. Oh, this happens. And then you're like, okay, so this guy's got him. This guy's going to come up and grab. Nope. He's going to juke him out and then throw a touchdown pass. I mean, there are times where as a coach, as a player, you're just sitting in that meeting room and honestly, they'll put on that piece of film and they'll say, guys, I don't know what else to tell you here. You guys did your job. He just made a great play. He gets paid too. No, so they're not saying we went from the brand new lines where it was perfect

to the same old lines where it was terrible. They're not blaming anybody. They're just recognizing the fact. Yeah. But when you do give up 28 in the first half, it's not like that every single play. You can't just say uh yes we he's a magician we lost to him no you there's there's definitely some other things to

be fixed there um but to the bury the ball fact like it's it's very interesting because a lot of times the bury the ball game or don't even look at the film move on that comes after maybe two or three losses where you're like all right we just got a clean slate and move forward after one tough loss like this you could go one of two ways you could say let's not watch the film let's just get back to being ourselves or you could hyper analyze this one and say we gotta really lock in and get better on a play like that there literally is nothing you can do that's just a guy making a good play but the rest of the game there were certainly some things that you can get better at. How were the players-only meetings in buildings that you were in?

You were speaking. You were leading those things. Oh, yeah. Because you said bury the ball. Obviously, bury the ball is one stage. And if it keeps getting bad, players-only meetings coming right around the corner. Of course. How was the players-only meetings with you, JJ?

You lead the way up there? If you're at players-only meetings point, just go ahead and book your January vacations. I mean, just go ahead, get Cabo, get your flights lined up, because if you're having players-only meetings, it is over, buddy. I have never been in one where I came out of it and I was like, yes! Go on, Figure it out. If you're in players-only meetings, you're just literally kind of looking around like, oh, okay.

And then this guy comes up with a super passionate speech and he's like, guys, we got to play for each other. We have to do this. And then this other guy is like, yeah, but we're not. It's the coaching, man. This is some stupid shit. And then this guy over here is trying to defend the coaches

and he's like, no, man, it's not them. It's us. And it's just a nightmare. They always work out well. I don't think I've ever heard a single player say players-only meetings, good things. I haven't heard a single one, but they will still continue to get called for at some point. Has anybody

ever come out of a players only meeting and then gone on a run? Like has that ever happened? I can't think of like a... Let me check my Rolodex of players only meetings. I don't think so. Let's just say no for the sake but this is very much our show where we do no research because we have no idea what's going to come up.

I love to hear that you are not a players only meeting guy alongside every other human that I've ever talked to that has ever been in the NFL. And if it was players-only meeting or bury-the-ball type scene for the brand-new Lions, and I'm not saying it is or not, Lamar's 16-1 against the NFC now. 16-1

against NFC teams. And if you start thinking about that, does that mean anything? No. But you can start saying maybe the AFC is a little bit more stacked. Lamar Jackson is playing his best ball that he's played. Josh Allen going through something right now with the Buffalo Beals. Patrick Mahomes, though, the clinic that he and Travis Kelsey just put on make us believe that the Chiefs are still the Chiefs, right, in the AFC

and everything runs through them with how he's playing right now? Yeah. I mean, I think that we kind of get to this point, even with Lamar, we still do with Pat, where somebody plays so great and plays so well for such an extended period of time that we almost get bored with the greatness of it. And I think people are constantly trying to find these things about Mahomes or trying to, you know, the offense isn't clicking that well

or they're not doing this, they're not doing that. Patrick Mahomes is still Patrick Mahomes. He's still the MVP. He is still playing at a high level. He's still dominating this league. I don't think that we should get bored with watching greatness and with appreciating greatness. I do think there is this fatigue factor where, yeah, that's just what he does.

He just plays that well. Who's the MVP? Let's go find it. Is it Brock Purdy? Is it this guy? Is it that guy? Well, Patrick Mahomes is still playing unbelievable football. Let's make sure we're giving people their flowers at the right time.

And, I mean, this is just incredible. Like, this isn't normal. This isn't normal stuff. Like, that's just a, oh, yeah, he just threw a 60-yard pass to Travis Kelsey. That's not – you can't just let that be normal. That's incredible. Well, and also, Travis Kelsey is not running routes that are play-calls. So it's like him and Patrick Mahomes are running two different plays

than the rest of the team, and then they're always on the same page. And his acknowledgement or awareness of where the line of scrimmage is is another, like, sneaky talent that I don't think gets talked about much with him because he moves, same with Lamar. He moves, and he'll have one foot behind it, and he still believes he can run where I assume, and we saw the play earlier, most quarterbacks are like scared to death. Am I past it?

Am I not past it? He's never past it, it seems like. He's always making plays. Never. And Taylor Swift and the Swifties have a front row seat to it all. What a perfect team for them to get involved in football to watch.

Yeah, no, I mean, they've only won a couple Super Bowls already. The thing that they were missing is more fans, so it's awesome. Yeah, their franchise is going down. Nobody really knew about them. Taylor and Travis. Oh, yeah.

See the kiss? Smooch on the cheek? See Smooch on the cheek? Lipstick. I mean, yeah. It just looks – there's got to be a wedding soon, right? We hope so. Keep going, you two lovebirds.

Yeah, add Arrowhead. Keep going, you two lovebirds. Yeah, add Arrowhead. Keep going, you lovebirds. Dad, Papa Kelsey's now in the equation. Hadn't heard from him at all before, but now we're hearing. He said Taylor's a very, very smart girl. Dad, Papa Kelsey's a legend. Great to see Dad Kelsey getting in.

We know a lot about Papa Kelsey. We know Mama Kelsey. We know Jason Kelsey. And we know Travis Kelsey. He's finally found his love. Yeah. Unbelievable. I'm happy for them. Darius has a question for you. Everybody in the Kelsey family seems awesome. I mean,

it really is cool to, like, have them playing at such a high level and to have everybody highlighted. Like, sometimes you get some fatigue or you get old. Like, I like seeing everything with the Kelseys, man. They just seem like good people. It's like the walks. Yeah. A little bit. Oh, it is like, look at this. Cool.

This is really cool. You guys should hang out. You guys know each other. This is great. Yeah, it's great. Darius has a question for you about offense. Yeah, we got a lot of these past rushers doing some great things. We talked about Miles Garrett, obviously your brother as well,

but something they're not doing, playing offense. You obviously played offense. What was that conversation like with your coach? Did present that to him or he come to you and actually do some offensive red zone snaps yeah i appreciate that first of all um not everybody can do it it's much much harder it's so much harder i mean on defense you just gotta they just say find the ball get the ball we all say no problem now to go on the offensive side of the ball you gotta be cerebral okay you gotta use your brain you gotta be a smart cat um no but the conversation was i mean i would always mess around like i've always

prided myself on being a great athlete so i always wanted to do everything i possibly could so before practice catching kicks catching punts playing with the quarterbacks, playing catch, whatever I can to just kind of be an overall athlete. And so I would start doing that. And then you do one handed catches and then you start to, you know, do it in front of the coach. And you're like, hey, look, I can do this. Hey, look, I can do this. And then you just try and plant it in his ear. But I can't remember exactly how it ever first came up.

But a cool story that I do have, because Bill O'Brien is the one that did it. Bill O'Brien is the one who gave me the opportunity to play on offense. I appreciate that. That's what we fought about. I was like, I should be playing every play. But his first, I believe it was his

first game as head coach. It was a home game, and at the end of the game we were down and we were going to kick an onside kick and i went up to him and i said put me on the onside kick team mind you i had never been on an onside kick team i had no reason whatsoever to be on an onside kick team but i was i was so confident in myself that i was like just put me out here i don't know where i'll go but i'm going to get findable um he was the first, it was his first game as head coach. So he, I, I appreciate that.

He listened to me. He's like, all right, go ahead. So this onside kick to you and didn't even get remotely close to getting the ball. Didn't even get remotely close at it. But I always thought that was a cool thing that he was like, yeah, you are an athlete. You can go out there and get it.

So give it a shot. And I also appreciate that with playing tight end because he did give me the opportunity, and, I mean, it was very, very successful. And we'll see you tomorrow, ESPN. All right, nailed it. Perfect. Bye, guys. Perfect.

That was perfect. That was the best inning we've ever had. You were right there on the screws, dude. You were right there on the screws. Sorry. No, don't be sorry. The clock. No, because the clock's changed change and your clock might not match up

with our clock which might not match up with their clock there's been a lot of clock issues big clock problems we're swinging around these clock problems like nobody else's business but you literally wrapped that story up as the show was ending that's the greatest ending we've ever had hey I'm proud of you dude

that's that innate ability. Thank you. Work-age athlete. That's that natural athleticism. He knew where the line of scrimmage was. So what did you do on that onside kick? You didn't know where the ball was going? Yeah. No, like, it was one of those that bounced directly to the guy.

He caught it and laid down, so there was nothing to do. But I literally believed I was going to get it. I was an idiot, man. I literally just had so much self-confidence, like, unrightfully, that I was like, yeah, I'm absolutely getting this football. No idea. I didn't even know how to time it up because I'd never seen the kicker. It all seems so ridiculous looking back on it,

but that unflappable confidence is a massive deal to professional athletes. There's a narrative building a little bit that maybe Joshosh allen's starting to question himself or maybe some other quarterbacks are starting to lose their confidence is that something you can get back you think once you lose it or what have you ever had any issues like that during your playing career yes i i have and i can speak to this very clearly because i've gone through this a lot with injuries and things like that but you definitely can get it back. But there is also something about when you have that unflappable confidence from the beginning and you don't lose it.

Like once you lose it, then always kind of in your head, you know that there can be questions. You know that there can be times where you don't have that confidence. In the very beginning, when you're so naive and you're so you don't know any better it's like this crazy unbelievable phenomenon where you just don't believe that anything bad can happen at any point um i was actually just talking to this about uh with with matt burke the texans decoordinated because we're talking about young guys and young team and i was like sometimes there is a massive benefit to having a young team because they don't even know what pressure is they don't even understand what they're doing

and what they're accomplishing and they don't even know that pressure is a real thing so they just go out there and they play and they have fun and they perform better than they might have performed otherwise um but yes for myself that first wave of confidence that if you've been there, I know any great athlete's been there. There is just nothing better than when you're like, anything that I do is going to be successful. It is the best feeling in the world. I had that in a pickup basketball game one time a few years back.

It was awesome. That hoop looked like it was this big. You know what I mean? I was just throwing it up, and then my cardio caught up to me, and it was like, oh, humble time. How you doing? Keep it moving. But it is nice whenever you see guys in the zone clearly and ladies in the zone clearly it's a it's a wild phenomenon because like your mindset and confidence

is something you can control but it directly affects your performance as well in all ways whether you're an entertainer an actor uh comedian anything if you have to perform a craft if you have confidence you're going to be so much better and it's all self-controlled it makes no sense to me i don't fully comprehend it i got a i got an interesting thing that you guys can relate to here and i'm fascinated to hear your thoughts so at the height of it you know 2014 2015 when i was playing my best ball i was trying to find literally any edge i could possibly find and this confidence that we're talking about is one of the biggest things and pre-game songs and everything is so important and you know yeah 20 percent lock 50 percent scale so i had this idea so i had this idea and i was literally trying to find any little

edge i could find i had this idea that at the end of the season, I would not listen to any song on my pregame playlist until the next season started because I wanted that mentality to kick back in at the same time next year, and I didn't want it to, like, fade. So once I kicked those songs back on, I wanted it to be right back to it. So, like, I didn't get to listen to Eminem, Lose Yourself for six months. I don't know how you did that, especially at that time.

Did it work? No, it didn't work. Actually hated the song. No, I got hurt. I got hurt that year, so it didn't work. Six months. A lot of wasted time. Could have been listening to great music.

Just wasted it. Yeah, and also could have got jacked up for those lifts. Yeah. Could have got better. I actually got rid of all my pump-up music for all my off-season workouts because I thought it didn't work. Hey, you know what? You take that into the next year.

That's right. Boom. It was a long-term experiment. The thesis took a long time to play out and not very long to disprove. So that was stupid. Last question, AJ. When you were talking about the whole confidence thing, it got me thinking of I heard some golfers talk about when,

like as golfers get older, they have like these mental scars because they've been, oh, they've been second place in the major, third place. Oh, they've competed, mental scars because they bet, oh, it's been second place in the major, third place. Oh, they've competed, but then it missed putts in huge moments. And as they get older, those scars continue to come up in their brain again and again, and it gets harder and harder. Like you're right when you said there's something to having a young, naive team.

Like how could you find a nice balance of a young, naive team that doesn't even know the great things they're doing and don't even understand the stage they're on also with some vets that get it and are confident and can kind of lead the way. Yeah, a hundred percent. I think you do have to find that perfect balance because you want vets who are going to let those young guys be naive and be fun and have their, and feed off of that because it also gives energy to the vets. it also keeps the vets young and makes them kind of have that have that vibe and have that youth that fountain of youth but then you also need those vets to be able to foresee issues that are going to pop up and kind of prevent them from happening without taking away the innocence of those young guys so whether it's uh you know

you're going to win the division and you can't party celebrating the division because you still got to go out there and secure the number one seat or whatever it was. You got to have the guys that can say, hey, guys, we don't need to celebrate this that hard because we've got bigger goals ahead. Little things like that make such a big difference. And it's just having that right combination of those young guys and those vets. And it's just having that right combination of those young guys and those vets. But it makes a world of difference when you get that perfect combination and a coach who knows how to let all of that play out and not get overly into it and not try and micromanage.

You're friends with a lot of those golfers, right? Aren't you? Out there? John Rom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Golfers are fascinating, man. Fascinating. They drink. They smoke dope. What do they do? What do they do? What do they do? I mean, the ones that I know don't do a lot of, they play a lot of golf, man.

They play a whole lot of golf, and it's the most mental, like, it's fascinating to pick their brains and the stuff that they want to learn about because I'm like, you know, they'll try and ask me questions about routine and nutrition and lifting and things, and because I'm like, you know, they'll try and ask me questions about routine and nutrition and lifting and things. And I'm just like, I can't do anything remotely close to what you can do. I don't know how the hell you want me to help you, man. Like you just pipe to drive 350 yards dead center for 18 straight holes. And I shot 110. What the hell am I going to help you with? So you suck at golf? Is that what you're saying?

Yeah. Yeah, I suck. If I play with John, he's got to give me two strokes a hole, and then it's competitive. He's number one in the world, though. He's a pretty good golfer. I don't think you should be comparing yourself to fucking John Roth. You know what I mean? Like, tell me,

are you a good golfer? I mean, I shoot literally on either side of 100 every time I play. I mean, I'm like 98 to 104. Like, that's my range. But you've got to play actual rules whenever you're playing with those PGA guys, right? My brothers and I and my buddies, we always play ball and hole. I don't understand how people play this pick-it-up bullshit. Like, how do you know your score if you don't put it in the hole?

Exactly, Gage. You're right. You're right where's the way to get better and where's the ball it's somewhere in this area well i'm not spending the next 10 minutes looking for okay so i'm gonna drop i'm gonna drop drop and take a stroke just take a yeah you drop it take a stroke i mean okay maybe right maybe i don't know you'll never know your score then i mean you tell me i don't keep score when i go out most of the time. You know what I mean? It's just like, I feel like. No, I'm sick of all these dudes where I'm like, how are you as a golfer? What do you shoot?

They're like, yeah, I shoot mid to high 80s. And then I'll go out there and I'm like, okay, let's play. And then we'll play real and it's 102. And I'm like, don't bullshit me, man. You don't shoot at 80s, mid to high 80s. See, what I do is. You're right. They are pieces of shit.

Everyone lies. Yeah, like I wouldn't. pieces of shit. You're right. They are pieces of shit. Everyone lies. If I hit a ball into a high grassed area that is not out of bounds, but we all know my ball is in that area. I'm not doing it. I'm not like a little puppet looking for this little fucking thing for the next 15 minutes.

I don't have time. Who has the time? I'll drop one in there though. I'm hitting this. If I was to get a birdie on that hole, I would not count it. How I keep score though is I'm like, got two birdies today, had a par, and then what'd you do for the other six? That could have been any.

That's how I play. People don't love it, but I'm having a great time out there. Also, I'm never finishing nine holes either. It's six, seven holes, and then I'm probably out of there. I'm never finishing nine holes. Buddy,'s six, seven holes, and then I'm probably out of there. You're never finishing nine? Buddy, who has the time? Never finishing nine holes?

Who has the time, JJ? It's so long out there. Let alone if you're waiting behind somebody, and then there's people on your ass. It's like I get very uncomfortable. I can't do it. But it would be great to just be able to sit out there in Arizona, hike up Camelback Mountain,

have yourself a little Aussie eye, you know, do your thing. And then go out there with John Rahm and hit the Phoenician, you know, out there. It'd be good. You know, maybe one. Come on down, Pat. Come on down. Come on down. I am thinking that that's potentially a place where the wife and family and I are going to retire at out there in Arizona.

It is awesome. It is so cool. The weather just broke. It's a high of 82 today. When you wake up in the morning, it's 63, 64. You see your breath still. You see your breath out there while you're drinking your coffee? Not this morning, but it'll come.

It'll come. Kind of sucks. It's beautiful. Jim, Jim, Ursa's down here all the time. Mr. Ursa's down here all the time. Mr. Ursae's down here all the time. Refs, got to fix him. How? What a, well, I don't know how.

I mean, trust me, I wish I knew the answer. But what a tweet. What a tweet. I love to see it. I absolutely love to see it. Yeah. That he's just going to just reckless with it. Just go ahead and throw it all out.

What? No. This is cerebral. No, in a good way. In a good way. In a good way. It didn't reckless with it. Just go ahead and throw it all out. What? No! This is cerebral. No, in a good way. It didn't sound like it. I would love to see it all fixed. I mean, I'm still blown away that we have Hawkeye technology

and everything. We can see where the tennis ball landed on the court to the millimeter the second it happened. We got sticks and freaking chains and I love the chain gang chain gang are some of the best guys on the planet but come on i mean let's get in the 20 20th century not even the 20 whatever one we're in yeah the chain yeah we don't take anybody's jobs you know we're being blamed for that already enough i don't like that at all okay love the

chain gang still be there celebration i'll have them walk out there cool but that needs not be the actual answer. We need the answer to be elsewhere. And allegedly, that Hawkeye technology you're talking about with tennis, not every tennis person believes it. That's our shit. Not every tennis person believes it. Birds thing?

I've been telling you. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm telling you. I've been told by a tennis player. Who? I think it was McEnroe. It was. I think it was McEnroe who told us. He said,

now there's questions on whether or not that's accurate. Everybody just acts like it's God. Everybody's just like, yep, that's it. I guess there's been some tennis players who have seen it with their own two eyes, clearly professional tennis players, and then the replay ends up screwing them. That probably has happened to a few people and they're like, that's not real. Just one just one thing leads to another so allegedly there is some chatter

about it not yeah i know we're buying we need to get some video we need to do some independent research put a video down the line match it up with all the hawk i mean it's a very simple experiment i'm telling you we were mind blown as well almost cried because he was like we because i was saying that needs to be the NFL, like you said. And then they were like, oh, that brings a whole other set of problems. Are they manipulating it? Are they trying to manipulate the results, is he saying? Or is he just saying it's not that accurate?

I assume the conspiracy fodder is that they're manipulating it, but I would assume that he's, the actual thought is that the technology can't be down to the millimeter every single time. Like, I assume that's what he's saying. I don't know. The one that blew my mind, literally blew my mind when I found out that they could do this is baseball and the Doppler technology that they have in baseball where they can

get the spin of the ball out of his hand. They know exactly how many rotations on the way to the plate. I mean, that is literally, I can't figure that out. Did you see Ginkle? I don't know what Ginkle had. I don't know what that rotation was. Probably fucking 2,500 plus RPMs. Ginkle was taking that thing from top of the strike zone

down to... He was hitting the plate with it. That thing was gone. Fucking dropping off the kitchen table. How in the Philly are you supposed to hit dingers when that asshole's throwing the ball like that? Well, you can't swing at the ones in the dirt. You think the Diamondbacks are going to win or what, JJ? I mean, look at what they've done. They sweep the Brewers. They sweep

the Dodgers. They come in in Philly. I mean, you can't bet against them now. You can't bet against them now. AQ said a guy named SeaWorld got signed, and it's been a whole different. He said he's been a fan for six months and is a Diamondbacks fan. I assume you're doing the same thing? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

I mean, I'm not sitting here acting like I've been some long-time, lifelong Diamondbacks fan. I live in Arizona. I've lived in Arizona for two years. I support the team and the fan. I live in Arizona. I've lived in Arizona for two years. I support the team and the talent that I play in. So, yeah, I'm absolutely rooting for him. First pitch. Yeah, why don't you go out there and throw some gas, bro? That would be sick.

I'll throw heat. I'll throw heat. I got no problem tossing some heat in. Hey, you're doing that charity softball game again, I heard, right? Yeah. You want to come? I think I'm busy. I think I'm busy.

I think I'm busy. Yeah, no problem. No problem. It's a good out'm busy busy immediate knows are better than long-term knows when is it when is it May 4th that's gonna be fun birthday as my daughter's birthday and you have great excuse excuse maybe so I'll tell you what kids are the best excuse for anything ever oh awesome oh yeah I've been learning that you know I mean certainly need to Good excuse. I'll tell you what. Kids are the best excuse for anything ever. Oh, buddy. Kids are awesome. Oh, yeah. I've been learning that.

You know what I mean? Certainly need to give an answer to this potential request. Look down at Mackenzie. Yeah. You said no. You don't want to. Sorry about you. No, yeah.

I just got to take care of the little one. I'm on daughter duty today. I'm sorry. Trying to be a good dad, you know. The story's about bad dad. You want to tell her? She's six months old the little one. I'm on daughter duty today. I'm sorry. Trying to be a good dad, you know. The story's about bad dad. You want to tell her? She's six months old. First one.

You're right. You're not at birthday party territory yet. Wait until you get to, like, kids' birthday party territory. We just went to one the other day. It's a new world. Never been in this one before. A lot of this? You?

Out of you? A lot of this? Yes. Yes. Yes. A lot of very interested people saying hello and meeting. It's great. I love it. I love it.

Just be a normal dad, JJ. Yeah. Okay, play it cool. Sign autographs. Oh, JJ, will you sign my kid? JJ, please. What was your favorite sack? You ever sack Brady?

Well, they're also all going like this. You know what I mean? I bet you there's one. What do you think about this tush push, huh? How about this tush push play? What do you think? Small talk with J.J. Oh, my God.

One of these dads is going to see this. He definitely. You want to talk about me, right? I didn't ask about the tush push. I told you. Jay's been asking dumb questions. We talked to him. We told him to relax.

You know, Brad, big Bears fan. You know, he's got a. That's good for you. And you don't stick out ever. You can really... I go straight to the kids. I go straight to the kids. I'm trying to play with the kids. They had a little water. I love it. It was a great...

Honestly, now, because I know somebody's going to see this. It was a great birthday party. I really enjoyed it. But they had water tables, and I just went straight to the water tables. Playing with the kids at the water tables. It's like the little setup, What the hell is a water table? It's like a little setup and it's got a top on there and then you just put the hose in there so the water

goes through the pinwheel and just falls down and everything. Kids fucking love it. What do they do? Just bat it? Yeah, kind of just play in there. You get cups in there and they splash and maybe get like a frog. Waste so much time. You get a good 45 minutes Out of a water table

Easy Oh nice And then we gotta sub in Something else Immediately afterwards But we're not worried About that right now Hey does AQ go to

Any of these birthday parties That you go to Is he asking any stupid questions I think I'm busy No I still gotta get together With AQ I still haven't seen The fight club

I honestly don't know If I want to be a part Of the fight club Holy shit JJ you gotta go Be a part of this fight club or not. Holy shit! JJ, you gotta go be a part of this fight club. Need you hitting the heavy bag. Yeah, they just beat the shit out of you.

I just don't know, man. It's in a basement. Very rich guy. Big basement. Like your basement. Big basement. There are no basements here, which was the first thing that threw me off. There are no basements here. Nobody has basements.

That's how much money this guy's got. So this guy has a basement. It's something new. Yeah. He's got a lot of money. This guy had to dig into the desert to build this fight club, and they do it every single week. I would like you to go in there because I guess there's a drill they do.

I get video of it every once in a while. Rayqueues, you're standing on a wall, and these guys just line up one by one, and they try to take him down. He's just getting trained by these guys. One guy comes up, tries to dump him on it. Yeah. Yeah. And then that guy walks out.

Tries to dump on him? And then next guy comes in, tries to dump him. Oh. And then that guy walks out. Yeah, I have to be a part of this. This sounds fantastic. They're saying you're the caboose. Why would I not want to get trained on in...

What the hell? Why'd you have to retire from the NFL again, AQ? That's the... What were you wearing during this? Spanx. I mean, did the term train throw you off, AJ? Is that what happened there? Because they are training in there.

I'm worried about your neck, first off, AQ. Don't worry about my neck. I don't know what's going to happen to you. People get your back, they choke you out. You're paralyzed. Did you see me go to the ground on that? Until the last guy. Last guy came in and caught him. But then AQ ended up being up on top of him.

He put that thing on him at the end. He did roll. He did what now? He did what now? He put that thing on at the end. He did roll. He got him. He did what now? He did what now? He put that thing up on. Yeah, he was. So the first guy came. Tea bag.

Tea bag. First guy came. We have this footage. That's the most disrespectful move you can do. We got the footage. We got footage. They're not disrespectful. For real.

I thought he can't. I don't want him to break his neck. I thought he can't grapple. What are we doing? You can't break your neck if you never go down. That's pretty much what's happening. He's just standing up against this wall throwing these shoes. What, like a centipede?

I think there's, like, dentists that come in there. Yeah, human. Lawyers that come in there. They're like, oh, let me go ahead and rough this guy up. Think Lil Baby shot for a takedown on him recently? Yeah, Lil Baby. They tried to shoot for a single leg. How'd it go?

He just sat up. Pretty well. Thank you. Didn't let him get in close enough. Who knows how it ends. But he threw that guy. and he threw the other guy. I mean, it's a real deal. So are you like a gimmick, like a petting zoo?

Like, hey, come in and see our resident NFL players. See if you can take them down. No, I mean, they're making a mockery of this. I am not! There's legit fighters there, former UFC fighters. Jay Glazer. Now there is some doctors. So you're like a big dancing bear.

But most of these people have some fight experience. I mean, like big time fight experience. And then what? What have I said that's more? And they couldn't take you down? You're better than big time fight experience? I mean, these guys are all well.

These guys are 170 pounds. And I'm still, I mean, like, I mean, Pat, he argues all the time that he can still throw me around. I can't wait for this day. Yeah, wait until I get to boost that train. I'm still 250. Me and JJ coming in together. Me and JJ coming in together.

Oh, three. Yeah. Two on one. You could win a UFC fight. Eiffel Tower. Wow. I'm not getting taken down, JJ. Let's just say that.

Against a wall. It's him and a wall, bro. He just locks these calves. Have you seen his calves? He locks these calves in, and he literally becomes one with the wall. And these little doctors are coming up. Look at that. Jeez.

Holy shit. Yeah, JJ. Is something wrong? Yeah, JJ. Good luck. Yeah. Yeah. I'm thinking he's okay.

I'm jealous of that. That is a damn good-looking calf. It is. That is a nice calf. Thank you. And he's working on them in that basement. Thank you. They're only getting better.

Good calves are a sign of a pretty good athlete. In offensive linemen, when you've got those calves, you're pulling around the edge. It's a good-looking calf. Thank you. The sound you heard was his forehead banging into the microphone because that's literally how he just says, yeah. He just headbutts. Thank you. Thank you. The sound you heard was his forehead banging into the microphone because that's literally how he just says, yeah. He just headbutts.

Thank you. Thank you. Good calves, hard head. Guys from Pittsburgh. Beautiful. How are your calves, Pat? How are we working with those? You know the deal.

I got plates down there. Yeah, you know the deal. JJ, you know that. Ass, too. That's another, you know what I mean? Big ass, big calves. Do you do calf exercises, or is that just 100% natural? I think that's a debate. Some people think you can't ass, big calves. Do you do calf exercises or is that just 100% natural? I think it's a debate.

Some people think you can't work on your calves. Calves and traps are both pretty genetic. Really? You can work on them both, but I think calves, I've told you before, I can show you a kid's dad if I see they're both their calves. You can implant. Oh, okay. Those aren't real.

Drama. Drama call those out. For real. They're super genetic. All right. JJ,. Oh, okay. Those aren't real. Drama. Drama call those out. For real. They're super genetic. Alright. JJ, thank you, buddy. You stayed too long today. Are you on CBS this weekend or no? I sure am. Anything you guys want me to toss in there? Oh, maybe some

words. Oh, here we go. Oh, good calf breakdown would be good. Argo land. I'll toss a calf comment in there. I'll toss a calf comment. How about Argo land? Have you heard about this? 155 million years they've been looking for it.

We fucking found it. I caught about three minutes of this conversation. I did not catch the whole thing, and it put my brain in a blender. But what happened? We found it. We found it. What does it mean we found it? what does that mean it's just a gigantic

piece of land what do you mean no shit it's argo land jk this is disgusting how stupid the show is washington post is right about this show do you hear us this guy doesn't even know what argo land wake up i heard that no i heard that oh yeah you want to talk athletic you want to take your pole and shove it yeah no i heard it all hey let's see it all those people are good people you know i mean there's good people well they're all really good people that's right let's move along uh jj today was awesome thank you pal i'll defend it i'll defend the show i'll defend the show but i i get the vibe i get the vibe i won't defend it i'll be cool i'll be cool i'll be cool be cool dude i'll be cool. I'll be cool. Be cool, dude. I'll be cool. Yeah, whatever.

They were running their mouth, though, weren't they? They were running their mouth. JJ, they were running their mouth. I mean, it's like people are just actively trying to find bullshit. A little smack in the mouth, maybe. Is that what you're saying? Some of these people need good calves, good ass. Maybe a smack in the mouth. I mean, yeah.

That's the beauty of sport. You go out there and you settle it on the field. You get hit in the mouth. You get booed. We'll find out who's better, who's worse. Sometimes you lose. That's the way it sport. Like, you go out there and you settle it on the field. You get hit in the mouth. We'll find out who's better, who's worse. Sometimes you lose. That's the way it goes. Hell yeah.

But sometimes you win. Sometimes you do. In those things. You can get a better look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a bull's ass. But wouldn't you rather take the butcher's word for it? Hell yeah. Have a great day, guys. We'll see you.

Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Walker. Wow. That was really profound, J.J. Good work. Football's our bread and butter because we have a man every single day joining us that's a college football national champion and a Super Bowl champion. Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, that's A.J. Hawk.

Yeah, A.J. The Talks at Table is here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One after the hammer, Don Cowboy's Tone Diggs is here. 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl game ball champion. Ladies and gentlemen, A.Q. Shipley. We'll be doing in the trenches here in a couple moments. We'll also be doing everything DB with the host of that, nine-year NFL vet, ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butler.

Joining us now is a man who last week was in full pads whenever we saw him at the Zotron on the college game day set in beautiful Columbus, Ohio. Former Ohio State legend, now the general of college football and of college football's rankings,

ladies and gentlemen, Bobby Carpenter. General, I want to let you know, you putting on full pads last week was one of the most awesome things I've ever seen. I appreciate your commitment to everything that you do. Today, sleeveless, pretty jocked, huh? You look pretty jocked right now, Bob. What do we got going on over there? You know, I got a little workout in for you today, Pat.

I wanted to make sure I was kind of feeling it. It's nice in Columbus. When it's nice in the Midwest, this late in the year, man, you got to little workout in for you today, Pat, wanted to make sure I was kind of feeling it. It's nice in Columbus. When it's nice in the Midwest this late in the year, man, got to pull those sleeves right off. You do. Hey, listen, if I was you guys over there in Columbus, I'd be having Rooster's chicken three, four times a day. Bingo.

It was so good. Hey. So good. So good. Unbelievable. I had it after. So they delivered it while we were still doing the show. After the show, it was kind of cold, the one plate.

They had warm ones inside. I ate the cold plate. It was like, damn, this is very, very good. Then inside it was warm. Hey, Roosters is good shit. Really good shit over there in Ohio. You guys should be proud of that, Bobo. Oh, Roosters is tremendous.

We do a little show over there every Monday. I bring a whole bunch home for the kids and it's like raccoons going through the garbage. Chicken bones all over the place. Dead chickens all over. It's really good stuff. I absolutely love it. We're actually getting them catering for our Halloween party here coming up this weekend. I love the fact that Ohioans are dumpster divers.

We are not scared to do that. Also, Ohioans, they showed up for us on Friday, Bobbo. That weather was terrible. Those people were awesome. Please say thank you to everybody you know that was there for us. AJ, Bobbo. That weather was terrible. Those people were awesome. Please say thank you to everybody you know that was there for us. AJ, you as well. Let's dive in. I assume the top of the top five is going to remain the same after what happened in Columbus this weekend.

But where are we at everywhere else, General? So there's a little bit of movement down there at the bottom. If you watched some college football last week, you saw some teams jumping around. Number five, I have Oklahoma. They survived the tight end, believe me. I was all about Dylan Gabriel. He played well, but Brent Venables,

they got that defense tightened up a little bit against Gus Malzahn and the UCF. So Oklahoma coming in at number five. Unfortunately, I had to slide Washington out because when you're playing Arizona State, Coach, I love Washington. When you're playing Arizona State, a one-win team, we can't be down 7-3

going into the fourth quarter. Did you at one point have Florida State at five? Or did you at one point have Florida State at five? Or did you at one point have Florida State at five? You know what, coach? I may have flipped those around. I may have made a game time decision on the changeup. I get this stuff in.

I review a little bit of it. I apologize for it as I was sitting there stewing in bed last night. My wife goes, what are you thinking about? Listen, I'm thinking about the college football rankings, dear. There's nothing else going on. This is what's running through my head. I can't be watching TV. I'm not thinking about game seven. I'm thinking about the

college football rankings. This Florida State-Oklahoma thing was really rattling me based on what they did last week. Where do you have Florida State at? Are they four? I got Florida State at number four. We can put up five and four there. You can flip

them around there. That's the problem. I was sitting there trying to figure out who looks better and I was struggling because Florida State was losing. If Riley Leonard doesn't get hurt, I don't know if they win that game. Duke's a pretty darn good football team. Riley Leonard goes out and all of a sudden you

see the Florida State title wave take over. And so the two guys at the bottom, Coach, it was back and forth with me all night long. I understand. Well, we appreciate the fact that you're thinking about this thing and you're putting your efforts into it because, honestly, that's why we called you. We knew you would take this serious.

And I think the college football world has been acting accordingly to the generalist rankings. Who's the number three, pal? Alright, number three, I've got Georgia still sitting there, and this is going to be a big week for them. They've got Florida. Carson Beck, we're going to see what he's going to be able to do without Brock Bowers. And this is the real

question, I think, that everybody has. This Georgia team has been rolling, been tested a little bit here and there, got tested by Auburn. Brock Bauer's bailed them out. They don't have that safety blanket there anymore. Maybe what some people are considering the best offensive weapon in the country. He is down and probably going to be down at least through the remainder of the regular

season. And Florida with Graham Mertz, they've slowly got it done. They had a close one against South Carolina last week, but they pulled it out sitting there at 5-2 and still alive in the SEC East. At one point, Graham Mertz was completing like 75% of his passes or 80% of his passes or something like that. He threw for 400, I think, against South Carolina. And ETN's running bananas, right?

I think he got hurt a couple games ago. He was. They have the backup. I can't remember his name off the top of my head. But, yeah, Graham Mertz is playing 1,000 times better than he was at Wisconsin, and Wisconsin's having quarterback issues. They wish they had Graham Mertz. And Florida, I think, has maybe started the season in a bad taste in everybody's mouth because they look like, especially with what happened last year with Vegas Bowl,

with Oregon State, and then with Utah. It's like, oh, Napier's like, they got a team. And Georgia without Bowers is a real, hey, that's a real question. I mean, we're going to see here, but Georgia's Georgia is how I believe. I think that's why you have them at three still at this point. Who's the number two, General? Number two, we've got the guys who have been doing as much scouting as anybody in the country coming off a nice 49-0 win.

The Michigan Wolverines, J.J. McCarthy looks really good. Jim Harbaugh looks good. The Michigan Wolverines, J.J. McCarthy looks really good. Jim Harbaugh looks good. The run game looks good. Defensively, they're checking all the boxes as they beat down their in-state rivals. And they got a bye coming up before they got a nice tough stretch here to finish the season. Good effort on the swapping of four and five there, boys in the back. Great work after the graphic was already made with the error. You know, you can kind of swap these. A.J., I want to ask you this question. Okay.

You're the president of Ohio currently. Okay, obviously. Yeah. You are. You're Ohio's finest. Okay. Stop with the sure stuff. Yeah, own it.

We know. It's not a sure thing. It's a we know. You are an Ohio State legend since his freshman year. Dropped in there doing his thing, national championship. Yeah. Living to the game big pop when he's there aj hawk aj hawk chance everywhere i mean it was awesome you know it was like we were literally with the pope in columbus ohio now i don't know what the pope's into but i do know that aj loves himself some ohio state and he's in there his license plate says ohio state legend we're talking about being

so you obviously hate that team up north. Too many letters. Huh? Yeah. Too many letters to fit on a license plate. You got to break that down. No, it's a circle. It was a circle thing next to the thing. It said Ohio State Legend right here and then it had A.J. Hawk. It's like the Marines and A.J. Hawk.

47. It was like an F-350 you know, that thing's on diesel. So with that team up north and how much you guys hate them, with all these things that are coming out about the signals, how do you feel and how does Ohio feel about it? I feel like this is kind of like a boy who cried wolf type situation where until we see something that's like deemed absurd when it comes to stealing signs, I don't think a lot of us are believing it.

Is that how Ohio feels or are we feeling differently than most of Ohio State fans? I don't know exactly how Bob feels, but, I mean, it seems like this was much more elaborate than we may have thought at the beginning in all of the stuff going together. I can't imagine how much work it would be to try to pair up a video of the signals to the play call, to all of the stuff that has to go on. I don't think it gives them that big of an advantage. Either way, whatever they're doing, I'm sure it sounds like whatever's going on they broke the rules i don't know what the consequences may be but i don't think it got him as much help as some people

might say but have we found out if they were recording like we heard a surveillance video might come out or is people claim they were they were filming like sitting across from the bench filming on their phone like the signals like they claim all this stuff but we don't know we haven't seen any of it right and then like allegedly the connor stallions uh guy he had a document called the michigan manifesto that's right that he was piecing together that was about how he was going to run the michigan program whenever he was inevitably in charge a couple years i mean it's like the story's getting absurd and i think all of us want to just be, where's the fucking video of them just filming a sign from some team? And if we see that, then I think everybody's going to be like, all right, cheaters, that's too far.

But right now it's been a lot of wording, you know, generally. I haven't really, I don't know. Everything I've heard now, it's just like all potential, hypothesize, it's this. How do you feel about it, General? So that's what everything, like you said, there's a lot of accusations out there until I start to see a video of my man sitting there with his phone, like zooming in, watching across like Chet Holmgren, his dad, when he was at Gonzaga filming his son from the sideline, you know, like that's what I'm envisioning here. Like a grown man standing up and filming, you know, the other team, like the whole time,

which you're not supposed to do. So they said they have documentation with that. We'll see. I do know this. When you're buying all tickets digitally, unless my man Connor Stallions, which with a name like that, I'm not even sure that's his real name. Maybe he's like a Jason Bourne type dude.

He's got a bunch of different passports and credit cards. True. But all that stuff's digital now. So if it's out there, it will come out. It's just a function of when do we get to see it and how much of it is actually real. I agree. I think what's real and what isn't is the big question mark right now, because you've heard every human that's ever been in competition pretty much be like, yeah, we're trying to steal signs all the time. But if you go past that ethic

level of like morals and like what everybody else isn't willing to do, then I think you'll see everybody turn. But until then, I think it's just a lot of maybe, maybe, maybe at this point. The only new thing I saw on that last break was the whistleblower name. They're saying that they know who's leaking all the information. Yeah, and allegedly this son of a bitch ran Coach Rod out of town too. Yeah, it's Harbaugh. Yeah, this guy ran Rich Rodriguez out of town. This guy used to be a University of Michigan Regents member.

Board of Regents.. Border Regents. Border Regents member or whatever. And I guess he does not like Harbaugh, so he's the one leaking that this is potentially allegedly, and he's also the one who ran Rich Rodriguez out of town, allegedly. Is this manifesto news coming out? Is this Michigan starting to try to say he's a rogue agent?

Yeah, they're throwing that son of a bitch under the bus as quick as they can. Stallions? I think so. Yep. I think so. Which tells you all you need to know about them supporting the troops. That's why I was going to ask if AJ, if he supported the troops,

because he was questioning his motives too. Well, Mike, hold on. Would be a good move to be like, you're going to look at that guy's computer and you're going to see some stuff. He was trying to overtake my job, Jim Harbaugh. I don't like this at all. I'm just learning this guy was trying to plan on taking me out. Wow, that would be a good.

Or separate yourself from the guy that's been linked to everything you've done. Maybe that was the race in the hole from the get-go. Like Harbaugh told him, hey, I'm going to need you to write a 500-page manifesto, so if this does come out, we can just say, hey, this guy's a lunatic, okay? Nothing to do with me. Connor Stallion's like, 500 pages? Jeez Louise. Well, it's got to be real, Harbaugh.

Start typing now. We need a new computer, too pages? Jeez Louise. Well, it's got to be real. Start typing now. Need a new computer, too, because they're going to burn your other one. We got to get all that film out of there. It seems like a lot of smoke. A lot, a lot of smoke. Need to see the fire. I still think there's a smoking gun out there. Because otherwise, the NCAA is just setting themselves up to look like bigger assholes

than everyone already thinks they are by like making this so public and doing all that like why would you like they're they're basically setting this up like like they do have it and they're kind of just waiting for the dominoes to fall and for like a couple weeks now to just be like oh shit we were wrong he really this guy just loves college football he's just going he was going to games with buddies like that would just be i don't know the one thing they got video of him right beside Michigan's D coordinator, Jesse Minter, like on the sideline during games, like having conversations while there's stuff going on.

You know, the run pass stuff, like people say you can get that off the TV copy. So yesterday I just watched the first half of the Miami Clemson game and you can't see coaches signaling at all anymore. Like the opposing sideline, you really can't see. And now you see those guys put the paper up and the giant boards behind their coaches. So I'm just trying to figure out like, if they have video, it's all going to be there. Either they have it, someone has it or they don't.

So I'm just curious when this crap's all going to get released or maybe it's all much ado about nothing. I don't know the authority, Pete Thamel, like, you know, he used to work for wall Street Journal, I think. He won awards. He is basically saying the Big Ten coming out and saying something, and the NCAA coming out and

saying something, just my journalism brain is telling me there is going to be something. To your point, Big Ten's not just going to throw Michigan under the bus. Exactly. These guys are cheaters for no reason. But what if it is the rule, like from 1994 on,

you're not allowed to send people to games to scout things? I think it's going to be tough to sell to a lot of NFL people. Because remember, we just learned that this rule existed in college on Friday. I think that is when we learned about this entirely. And for the Big Ten to do that when Michigan right now is like a legit national championship contender, they're undefeated, it would make no sense for them to kind of tarnish that while they're in the middle of this run.

Well, there's another team in the Big Ten, and I do believe they're potentially on this general's top five and has not been listed yet. Who's number one, general? Coach, it's got to be the Ohio State Buckeyes. 59 and a half minutes. They held the Penn State Nittany Lions to six points. I mean, we talk about winning and scoring a lot

and all these things. It looks like the Silver Bullet defense might be back. I think they're going to lean into that. And then you've got Marvelous Marvin running around out there. I mean, 11 catches, got over a buck 60. You can do whatever you want to try to cover that guy. He is almost unguardable. And, you know,

for my money, if one of these quarterbacks doesn't emerge, he might end up winning the Heisman Trophy and be the best player in college football this year. He got hot. He got hot there. And they fed him early, too, and then missed him a couple times. And then in the second half, he just kind of took over.

He's so much bigger, I think, whenever you see him in person than it looks like when you're watching on TV. And his hands are just gigantic. He's a weapon. And McCord, what'd you learn from McCord? You think he's a quarterback that can lead a team to the college football playoff? Yeah, except they're playing a team with a really solid pass rush. They had over 20 sacks.

And listen, not every game is going to be perfect for a quarterback, but he hung in there. He delivered the ball when he needed to. He was very efficient on the day. And I think he's only getting better. You've watched this Ohio State offense. They've continued to improve. They're playing better competition and they're beginning to move the football and they've been able to lean into their defense while they've done it. So they're ascending. And I'm looking forward to that Saturday after Thanksgiving, man, that's going to be a heck of a game. And this week too, Friday night up at Madison. A.J. will

tell you some stories about playing there at night. It can get a little rowdy and wild. Yeah, they jump around, right? Oh, yeah. They jump around up there, don't they? They do. And Fickle knows the program. How'd you do over there, A.Q.? Did you win a lot of games in Wisconsin? Yeah, 49 to 14 twice. Wins.

What about in the horseshoe? How'd you do over there? One and one in the horseshoe. How'd you do over there? One and one in the horseshoe. How'd you feel about your Penn State team? First win in 30 years. How'd you feel about your Penn State team on Saturday? They stunk. They didn't show up. Offensive stinks. Offensive game plan was Franklin?

Cop to watch. James Franklin's stats are getting better and better against top 10 teams and on the road and everything like that. They are? Every day that passes, they get better. You really thought they were going to win you really thought a lot of people were going to win did you get a chance to see how you did on the nfl ah not good you you were so confident with every pick the penn state won over iowa state obviously right and then the nfl picks every single one there was a full two and nine. Two and nine.

How'd you guys do? Me? Close to me. I got five of them. I barely got you. Thank you. I got five of them. I did a lot of research on this.

I felt good. I mean. Tough weekend. Tough weekend, right? Yeah, but I do appreciate how matter-of-fact you were with everything. Oh, my God. Yeah, going to need those. Because on paper, I felt real good about every one of them.

That's good for TV. Yeah. You should see me on game day when about every one of them. That's good for TV. Yeah. You should see me on game day when I'm making these picks. That's the one. Ruckers. This team's going to do it. Ruckers over Michigan, I said. I didn't know that Michigan knew all of Ruckers' play.

Exactly. I didn't know that was the case. I mean, Shiano, I thought he would have him better hidden. Any gimmicks this week, General? I got two gimmicks for you this week, Coach. Number one, a guy that you have on every Thursday. They try to bury. We buried after they lost to Texas, but the Alabama Crimson Tide, since then, all they've done is rattle off seven wins in a row. They were down 20 to seven against

Tennessee. You're thinking, hey, they're cooked. They're done. This is it. Alabama is done for this season. They battle back. My man is like Jason in Friday the 13th. You cannot kill Nick Saban in this Alabama Crimson Tide. It's Halloween weekend. He keeps coming back. He's like a vampire, man. He doesn't age. He looks the same, and his teams always play

great. They're ninth, I think, in the country right now. Here we go. They're back in the top ten. Don't look now. They go on a run, especially with no Brock Byers down there in Georgia. All of a sudden, he's old. What'd you call him? A vampire? Nick Saban? Back in the

college football playoff. We should see. Seems like he's having fun this year, too. Yeah, truly. He's chewing on cigars. Doing his thing. What else do we have? This was incredible. A Halloween theme. I appreciate that. A little Halloween theme. And then we've got one, the Cinderella man, Tony Elliott. He's been at Virginia for a long time. He did not win money games.

They were 3-7 last year. This year they were 2-5. And against North Carolina coming out of nowhere to beat the Tar Heels, I don't think anybody saw that coming. I didn't. I don't know, AQ, AJ, any of you guys. No one saw that. And you know what?

Getting a big victory, I'd love to see a guy who, you know what, after a couple years finally gets a nice signature win, and hopefully this will be a little opportunity for him to rise the Virginia Cavaliers up the ranks in the ACC. Hey, congrats, Coach, getting that big win over UNC. Cinderella, man. Cinderella, man. That's a good song from Eminem as well.

It popped up on the other day. It's not bad. I forgot he even sang that thing. I don't think I've ever heard it. What? Yeah, you have. It's a great song. Come on.

Yeah, you have. I gave up music. This is almost like a Mighty Ducks situation. Was it within the last 10 years? Anyways, let's move on. Thank you so much. The General, Bob Carpenter. We love you, buddy.

Here we go. When did it come out? I gave up music in 06 damn it was it was definitely after that it was yeah see yeah i mean when you graduated high school yeah gave up music on spot called it so long time said no new song no new friends no new songs come out since age i gave it up it's been a lot of good music yeah tell that to kid rock you son of a bitch hey that was all before jeez what's your problem all before we the people was before your ringtone was before 2006 you're an idiot kid rock's bar was packed though i will say down in nashville when we were down there for a day or two a lot of booze in that in that place yeah a lot of booze a lot of booze there's a video that came out of Kid Rock from Kid Rock's place. Everybody

in there was drunk, but the internet saw it sober and they said whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. People were surprised. And Kid Rock said, you know, that's Kid Rock. Bob's trying to get a hold of me. Bob's trying to get a hold of me. That's happened since 2006. Yeah. You didn't pay attention to any of it. You're a bad guy, dude. No new

songs for real since 2006? No. When was Carter 3? 09? Hold on. I think there's another one coming out. Yeah, the Carter 6. Sorry for the wait. Times 10?

No. No, this one's going to be good. I can feel it. Also, Meek Mill, Rick Ross, November 11th. Ooh. I think they got a new album coming out. Here we go. That's going to be worth it.

Creed's got a new album coming out. I feel like we sit over there. Because of Minnesota Vikings? I think that's a big reason why. And the Rangers. Yeah, Scott Stapp has also just been to Rangers games. Well, Creed has led a lot of champions. I don't know if they have led this particular champion.

Ladies and gentlemen, this lady is a friend of the program. She's also an absolute badass. This Friday, for the first time ever, she will be fighting in the first ever 12-round, three-minute-per-round unified title fight for the women's ever. Normally, it's 10 rounds. This time, it's 12 rounds. The goal here, obviously, is more fighting, more exciting, maybe a little bit more equal

pay for these women who are absolute dogs in the ring. For the unified featherweight title on friday on the zone live in orlando this lady will be putting her 45 two in one record on the line ladies and gentlemen amanda serrano hi you guys thank you for having me i'm here at the beautiful Career Royale Resort in Orlando. I'm super excited for Friday night. Okay, let's talk about this. You'll be fighting in 12-round fight, first time ever. I think you wanted to do this before against Katie.

She declined in Madison Square Garden. Now you're getting an opportunity to here against Danila. So tell me how and why we got to this point. And I assume this helps you because your cardio is absurd. Well, yeah, I worked on that for this fight. It was 12 three-minute rounds. Yeah, first unified. I'm the champion.

And we're going out. You know, I asked Katie for when we were going to fight because it was such an iconic fight at an amazing arena. For the amount of money we were getting, I think it was a great night to do that. But, you know, she denied. But I asked my mandatory, my WBO mandatory, Daniela Ramos, and she said yes in two seconds. I know she's a tough and rough fighter.

And she said, let's do it. And we're doing it here Friday night. I'm just thankful for my team for allowing me to do this. Obviously, Florida Commission, the Career Royale for having me, and I can't wait to put on the show Friday night. Hell, yeah. Go ahead, AJ. I know it's scheduled for 12 three-minute rounds. Do you have any expectations for it to go that long?

We know you have those heavy hands that seem to put people out well you're so right it's scheduled for 12-3 uh or less but yeah no with with my power i think that extra minute and um either the extra two rounds i think um i think i i you will see a lot more knockouts in me and in women's fighting in general. You know, this is the first step for women's equal pay, equality. And I think I just hope that I can open the doors for these women in the sport. You know, my legacy is already done. It's cemented. Now it's time for me to work on the future of women's boxing,

as well as the present. How do you feel about your talent at this stage, though? You fighting better than ever? You said your legacy this stage though? You fighting better than ever. You said your legacy is already there. You fighting better than ever. Who are we going to see on Friday? Oh, you're going to see a different Amanda Serrano.

You know, we just added a new strength and conditioning coach. Boy, was I running to make sure that my cardio is there. You know, I love to throw punches in bunches and i want to maintain that in three minutes um i know it might be a little crazy but you know you're going to see the old vintage amanda the real deal serrano um i love to give the fans uh what they pay for and you're going to see that and i would just put an extra minute and um you can you have to tune in friday night

you can't make it to the career royale make sure you watch it on the doll because it's going to be a great night. And, and it's supporting women. When'd you start fighting Amanda? I started at 18 years old. I was a little older in the game, but now women are starting five, six years old.

So I started at 18 years old. I've been a professional for 14 years, 14 long years. And now is when, um is when we're having fun. Now, the last two years have been the best times of my life. Signing with MVP, with Nekisa and Jake Paul. They changed my life around. They changed my career around.

And now it's time to, like I said, open the doors for these women in the sport. And yeah, equality, equality, equal pay. We deserve it all. Hey, shout out to Most Valuable Promotions. And obviously they picked the right lady to kind of push behind. You are a beast. You were fun to watch in there as well. Happy you got into this thing at 18.

AQ Shipley is in a fight club every single week. He has a question for you. Amanda, we're a big boxing program over here. So we're just curious, being a southpaw fighting against an orthodox fighter this weekend, what challenges present themselves? Are you just looking to avoid the overhand right all weekend? Well, I know that's one of her favorite punches. And in my training camp, that's all we worked on. We worked on keeping my hand up. I have one of the best sparring partners, Jason Velez. He watches and studies my opponents,

and then he comes and he spars me just like them. And sometimes I laugh when I'm in the fight because I'm like, wow, I've seen this before. So, yeah, we've been working on that. I've been working on little different things, how to stay calm, how to keep my hands up, how to, you know, walk down my opponents and just be the same aggressive fighter, but just a little smarter.

You know, we have that extra minute, and I just want to make sure that I'm a little patient because I want to set up my punches and set up for the knockout. Tom Diggs has a question for you. Yeah, Amanda, you mentioned signing with Jake Paul. Have you got an end advancing the sport for women? Have you guys talked about putting on potential celebrity women fights, seeing how big it's been in the men's world?

Honestly, I don't know. I mean, obviously women's first. So, you know, a lot of women don't want to get punched in the face. You have to be a little on the side where you don't mind getting punched in the face. But, I mean, I think it would be cool. It would bring some excitement like it has with the males. But, I don't know. I haven't

personally thought of... Amanda, I think you're fighting male celebrities. Yeah. I think you fight male... Yeah. Yeah, that's where... I mean... Island boys or something. One island boy at a time. Yeah. I'm in, boom, see ya.

Bad Bunny? Boom, see ya. I don't know if you want Bad Bunny. He's going to be a champion in WWE. Britney Spears could be something. No, no, no, not Bad Bunny. Oh, that is something. Maybe Britney Spears.

She could be a little scrappy in there. Yeah. She wrote the book. Bad Bobby? That's future business. It's future business. No, no. We're going to unify title fight on Friday.

Ty has a question for you. Yeah, man, and not to look ahead, but Friday night after the fight is over and after you knock all of Ramos' teeth out and send her back to her corner, after a long, arduous, tough training camp, what are we eating after the fight? What's your go-to cheat meal? How are you going to attack that after you beat the hell out of Ramos?

A nice, big, juicy cheeseburger. Hell yeah. Or Pepsi or a soda. But usually a milkshake and nice cheeseburger. What is fight camp schedule? And what is the diet of fight camp?

Well, fight this fight camp I really you know, this fight is not just about me. This fight is about women's boxing and to change the sport, you know, so I trained extremely hard I hired a new strength and conditioning coach like I said before and boy I thought I used to run before but I ran a lot just to make sure that I have my lungs are right for the fight and I lost toenails um I it was a lot of blood sweat and tears this camp and it was um three times a day um like I said, running for an hour, maybe sometimes more. But it was intense.

It was intense. I was really – I needed to make sure that I give the fans what they want and female boxing what they want. How long was camp? Camp was five weeks, five to six weeks. All right, let's go. It all pays off on Friday. AJ has a question for you.

Yes. With that new strength coach, how much more running did you do compared to what you did in previous camps in your career? 1000% more. It was an increased cycle. 100%. You know, I used to run, um, 20 minutes. I used to run for the fight.

So I'll fight 20 minutes. So I will fight over 20. I will run fight 20 minutes. So I will fight over 20. I will run over 20 minutes. This time they said, nope. I mean, it worked for me for my fight. I will go 10 rounds like nothing. But we said, is it different? And I, you know, it was a dream of mine.

My training camp was in Puerto Rico. So it was a dream of mine to run the moto. Whoa, that became a nightmare I I literally that night I I cried I never run ran that it was all hills it was over in about an hour and I said well I need to I need to hire this guy first I it was just a tryout I said we need to hire this guy and he helped me out tremendously because I sparred eight rounds and I wanted to die. But the next sparring session, I was able to do 10 rounds and it was so much better. And it helped me out a lot.

We can't wait to see the best Amanda Serrano on Friday night on DAZN. Live from Orlando, 12 three-minute rounds. Empowered women empower women. And here's an empowered woman spending some time with us. We appreciate the hell out of you, Amanda. Thank you so much for having me. Thank you for everybody who's involved in making this fight.

My team, Jordan Maldonado, Nikisa, Jake Paul, MVP, Career Royale. Thank you for having me. Florida, all the organizations for putting this fight together. Uh, we're making history together Friday night. I hope you guys tune in and watch it. Just thank you.

Thank you for all the love and support and women's boxing. We're here to stay. Hell yeah. Question. That was a great promo right there. Thank you to all this. Do you do virtual reality boxing? Have we done virtual reality boxing yet in the thing?

I have, I have. I have a long time ago when the Wii came out. Wii? No, it's not real. That was a virtual. That was a virtual, yeah. I need to know if that's real or not because I'm knocking people out in there, Amanda. I'm not.

I mean, I am putting people. I'm putting motherfuckers to sleep. We're talking real quick. I love you, Pat. I love you, Pat, but I would have to say it's different getting punched in the face. For real. What? I guess. I appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen,

you don't get hit in the face on Friday. Amanda Cerrone. Hey, DAZN, let's go. Friday night. 12 three-minute rounds. First time ever. That's sweet. Fury and Ghanu on Saturday as well like at 2 p.m. I saw. Strength and conditioning coach for Ghanu. It's the first time ever. That's sweet. And Fury Nganou on Saturday as well, like at 2 p.m. I saw. Okay.

Strength and conditioning coach for Nganou, like college roommate of mine. Really? Yeah. That's awesome. That's pretty cool. Dog. Yeah, I was scanning the internet,

and I saw one person holding bands behind Francis Nganou. And the picture is Francis Nganou. And then I looked in the back. I'm like, I sent a text. Are you me are you uh yeah man hitting Saudi Arabia tomorrow whatever I'm like holy fuck wow okay let's go boys now I think it's gonna be a tough task against Tyson you know yeah and Tyson's already scheduled his next fight already yeah you know and uh Tyson I watch his reality show he needs boxing yes I get it for... So I don't think he's ever not training. I don't know how that one's going to go. And I'm pulling for Francis. Great story.

But anytime we get to see Tyson just dancing. His dad was in that page during the Tommy Fury weigh-ins. And almost... That guy's the best. His dad lives in a... I'm not even getting into it because I don't know what's real and what's not real in that reality show. But I spent a lot of time with the Furies

watching them on Netflix. Love the family. Absurd family. Incredibly talented family. But his dad's saying, I created the world champion pretty much using that as his strength. Like, yeah, I fucking created the world champ. So I, ipso facto,

I too am the world champion. It is awesome. I love that. He's on the world champ, so ipso facto, I too am the world champion. It is awesome. I love that. He's on the show Friday, Tyson. Let's go. Here we go. Tyson Fury's on the show Friday. Nice.

We'll be live in Utah. He will not be, but he will be live on the program. Can't wait to talk about how he feels. We'll be back tomorrow, you know, Thursday night football. Oh, let's go. Week eight starting. We'll have a reaction to some games from tonight happening. I mean, tomorrow's a beautiful day.

Today's packed. It was. Oh, yeah. A lot of happening. Tomorrow's a beautiful day. Today's packed. A lot of conversations. Tomorrow too. Can't wait. Let's just keep going, baby. We appreciate you all so much. AJ, great show today, pal. You did great. Great show, boys. D-Butt, yesterday you did your thing.

Today, I think it's time for AQ Shipley to try to win some people's money. A.Q., what do you want to do? You tell me. No. You tell me. He's going to grapple with somebody. Go stay on that wall. We're on a train on you. Who can get me down?

Does he face the wall or do you face away from the wall? At the end, he was facing the wall. How many do we got? We got three. We got four. There's another one down here. Oh, you're going full balls. Yeah, I'm going full balls. I'm going to get this.

You don't need them. This is the hardest one. We'll make the first one. Which one do you want to put in it? That one. Okay. All right. So if Pit Stain's here can make that football into that basketball hoop right over there,

we will give 25 people $500 who retweet this tweet and say something nice to somebody in the same reply put. The easiest way to pay you. Here we go. AQ, you look more confident than normal in this particular one. Well, I'm wearing an XL shirt today. That's why. XL.

That might be why this is a little. Look at you, though. You're fitting into XLs. Not bad, huh? Hey, good for you, pal. You look good. Will the throw be good? Will 25 people win $500?

We shall see as the Super Bowl champion, A.Q. Shipley. That was good line. That was on the line. That was like the equivalent to Daniel Jeremiah's three-point shot. A little short, just on line. Yeah, but you didn't really follow through. It feels like a shot put down. I've been throwing them up in the rafters the last couple weeks.

Ladies and gentlemen, if A.Q. Shipley can put that ball into that hoop right over there, 25 people will win $500. All you got to do is retweet this post, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay you in the same reply. Wearing the Henley, extra large. Pits on fire. Oh, man. That was good, man.

Yeah. That was good. He has been putting them along. Remember, you're one and only game ball you have. He threw against the bricks as hard as he could last night. That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, A.Q. Shipley is a Super Bowl champion. He's an incredible athlete in high school.

He was the best high school basketball player in the city. Basketball? He's actually in the Hall of Fame for the Western Pennsylvania Interscalastic Athletic League's Basketball Hall of Fame. Wow. Yeah, so he's used to putting a ball in the hoop. Now we're putting a football in the hoop? Wow. What a crazy thing.

If you're able to pull this off. 25 people. $500. All you gotta do is just make it. There's five of those balls can fit into that hole right there. Just need one of them. Come on, Cush. Five balls. One hole. One man. Missed the backcourt. I tried for of them. Come on, Cush. Five balls. One hole. One man. Missed the backboard. I tried for the bank. Legs, huh, ball? This is the bank side, pal.

No, I'm going this way. Bank on this side. I mean, you hit the back. This physics, I don't think, really help you in this one. You got to be a lefty. Yeah, I think this is the right physics. Go here? Yeah, but hit top right corner of the paint. Like a layup. So just like on this side. Yeah, but hit top right corner of the paint. Like a layup?

Yeah. So just like on this side? Yeah, pretty much. Layup. Bingo. And it'll go down and to the left. That's pretty much the game. If A.Q. Shipley is able to put this ball into that hoop right over there,

25 people. You know what? 30 people. $500. All you got to do is retweet this post, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay you in the same reply AQ Shipley in the trenches Oh no

Perfect location AQ Shipley A little higher The speed Too fast? Too much speed Enough speed I onside kicked that ball to myself

Let's throw it off the bricks. Perfect. Put the ball in the bucket. Ladies and gentlemen, if AQ Shipley can put this ball into that hoop over there. I got robbed today twice. This one doesn't.

That is the man who is going to try to win 30 people $500. Look at that athletic stance. Look at those hip pads. That's Moontownship. That man used to be a high school basketball stallion. He'd go on to be a Remington Award winner,

a unanimous All-American, a 12-year NFL vet, a Super Bowl champion, and now he can win 30 people $500. All he has to do is put that Duke in that hoop right over there. Go ahead, AQ Shipley. Let's make it up for the people!

Another day of losers. And now we make a mess because we're children. Alright? Unbelievable. I think you got one more. Ty's calibrating it for you. Oh, I do. I was one more. Oh, I do. I was going to let him sit down all the way.

No, I love this ball. Ladies and gentlemen, Russell Wilson made a dorsal fin football that was certainly sold to people, but never really enjoyed. No. That's right. It's impossible to play catch with, but I will tell you what it is possible to do. Put it in a hoop. If A.Q. Shipley can do that, we'll give 40 people $500.

Holy shit. All you got to do is put that dorsal fin into that hoop right over there, AQ. That one. Whichever one. I'm going to go with that one. This one. 40 people, $500. Quick 20 grand potentially out of this building on your shoulders,

in your hands, underneath your sweaty pits aq shipley make 40 people's days better today here we go oh baby oh it's pretty good pretty good with that that's unbelievable yeah i thought that was it i was oh, shit. Yeah, I didn't do it. Ty, great, great fucking job calibrating. Yeah, good calibration. Great calibration. Good job, Ty. Way to go, AQ. Way to go, DB.

Thank you. Good work, boys. Big thanks to Amanda Serrano. Big thanks to Bobby Carpenter, JJ Watt, Austin Matthews. Hockey's awesome. Let's remember that. Yep. That's right.

Football's sweet, too. Yep. We're very lucky to do this. AJ, take care. Can't wait to be in Utah with you on Friday, pal. It's going to be sweet, man. What's the weather looking like? Are we going to be all right?

Not too bad. Yeah, I think it's not too terrible. It got better yesterday. Beautiful. Beautiful. I think it'll be in the 40s, I think. High of 54, but we'll probably be there in the morning. But it's sun.

Yeah, it'll be sunny. Boom. Okay. Still tank top weather for you? You guys want to head south? Come on over. I mean, over in Ohio, it was rainy, 48 degrees. I had a tank top on out sun. Yeah, it'll be sunny. Boom. Still tank top weather for you? You guys want to head south, come on over. I mean, over in Ohio, it was rainy, 48 degrees.

I had a tank top on out there. People thought I got soft because I had that one long-sleeve shirt that my wife bought me. Well, no, you just brought that, though, so you could drape it over Herbie's shoulders when he got cold. Bingo. I did bring a flannel for Herbie, who was... Yeah, hands in pockets. That was tough. Did you guys see that at home, how cold he was? I don't know.

Was it talked about on the internet how cold Herbie looked? I don't think so. I don't think so either. I've been trying to stay away from checking the internet these days, but I don't know if enough was talked about how cold Herbie was. And then Chivalry's not dead. No. I put my flail right around him.

Yep. Right around him. I know ZQ didn't give Herbie his hand warmers that he had. At all. Hand warmers are great, though. Those are game-changing. I know Snake, you didn't give Herbie his hand warmers that he had. At all. Hand warmers are great, though. Those are game-changing. Smart. I'm going to bring those

this Friday. I'm not getting into it. Rose Bowl Hall of Famer. Who's that? Kurt Herbstreit. Herbie. Congrats, Herbie. Herbie.

Not getting into it? Just like the red light thing, the weight loss, the train in the basement thing, the hand warmers thing in 48- degree weather. They say Arizona thins your blood. It's a lot tougher out there.

Alright. Let's get the fuck out of here. I'm about done with it. We learned a lot today about the Giants. We learned a lot today about sports. Let's continue to do that every single day. You learn something new, you always get better. And that's what we're aiming to do. We appreciate you all so much. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice

that might change their life. Goodbye!