The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1006 - Happy Halloween, Trade Deadline Day, MNF Recap, Bengals Defensive Coordinator Lou Anarumo, Aaron Rodgers, Jaguars Head Coach Doug Pederson, Pete Thamel, Jordan Schultz, Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: October 31, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys celebrate Halloween in costume as they recap last night's Monday Night Football game in which the Lions made fairly easy work of the Raiders with Jahmyr Gibbs having a massive night. They also keep an eye on all the trades coming in with the trade deadline looming and discuss who should be sellers, who should be buyers, and who might be on the move. They are also joined by a loaded lineup of incredible guests including Bengals Defensive Coordinator Lou Anarumo (30:50-47:32), Jets Quarterback Aaron Rodgers (1:05:03-1:48:45), Jaguars Head Coach Doug Pederson (1:56:48-2:11:49), College Football Insider, The Authority, Pete Thamel (2:30:30-2:51:04), and NFL Insider Jordan Schultz (2:55:19-3:05:28). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and happy Halloween from the Thunderdome! It is October 31st, 2023, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, and this program starts now! Football! Happened last night in a big way on Monday Night Football, and we will obviously chat about it all damn day. We'll be talking about all the sports happenings, and obviously we'll be enjoying the holiday that is maybe the greatest holiday there is where you dress like an asshole and have the time of your life and make memories

forever. I am currently dressed as a Buddhist whale named Lolita or Takate depending upon when you met me. I did pass away before I could enjoy the open waters of Washington and the Pacific Northwest and also the waters of a 757 that Jim Irsay was going to deck out into an aquarium for me to live my best life. I do have friends and siblings that I've lived alongside in a dumpy aquarium down in Miami, but they've all committed suicide because how terrible our life conditions. Love you, talk about it. I've remained my bonus mindset this entire time because life is what you make it,

and I choose to make mine the best. This is Jim Irsay's favorite whale. This is the NFL's favorite whale, and this particular whale died too soon. And that's why I'm paying my respects on this beautiful, happy Halloween. I'm not alone here, though. No, no. It's a different cast of characters on this glorious Halloween, Aaron Rodgers Tuesday. The Toxic Table is here.

At Boston Corner, who's turned into Spider-Man! Spider-Man! What's the inspo here, pal? You look good. Yeah, so originally, you know, I've been playing in this for quite some time, of course, and I was going to be Gobble Ghoul. And then when I went to make my Gobble Ghoul costume yesterday, it turned out to be very difficult. So I

started opening up some boxes that I haven't in a while. I'm currently playing the Spider-Man video game on the PlayStation 5. I look into a suitcase that smells like absolute poop, and I see this Spider-Man costume, and I say to myself, holy hell, if Aaron Rodgers forgot his crutches and used that as a sign to stop using them, I forgot my Gobble Ghoul costume because I see this Spider-Man costume. I meant to put that thing on. I had to

cut a couple holes, obviously, to make it a little easier, but yeah, I couldn't be happier with my decision. I will say, they say like 80% of communication is non-verbal. A lot of it is like facial expressions and how you're delivered. We can't see any of that because of how disguised you are, but those words sound beautiful. I just know I'm locked

in, okay? My facial expression is locked in because I don't know if I'm going to get a call and I might have to go save the world. Hey, it's trade deadline day. Exactly. And look at you. You're locked in. Locked in the whole entire time. Same face.

No matter what happens, guess what? I knew it was coming. Spidey sense, bitch. You don't ride the ebbs and flows. I don't ride the ebbs and flows. No, I got my spidey blinders on and I am just locked in. And right next to you is obviously the authority of college football, Ty Schmidt, who is Pete Famel.

Is that accurate? So, yes, that is correct, Pat. Initially, I planned on going as the Hulkster, the Hulkamaniac. Ordered a very nice costume. Spent a lot of money on that costume. A little bit of snafu along the way. I believe, I want to say Oxford, California. So that costume did not get here, so I said, you know, what the hell, I'm going to go as my favorite college football insider.

Not just my favorite college football insider, but my favorite insider as a whole, Pete Thamel. Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete! Pete, it's a big day for college football, obviously, because the things that keep unraveling. I believe we'll be talking to another Pete Thamel today at some point. Excited for you two to have a nice interaction. I'm really looking forward to that one. I want to get a couple more tips and kind of inside info, considering Connor Stallions and the Michigan situation,

because as we know, the hotbed that's going on in Michigan right now, it's continuing to heat up and and we'll see you know a little bit more of a vested interest as well with potentially jim harbaugh maybe you know leaving michigan and going to the packers you're saying heat up it's almost like a traeger like it's starting to roast it's been roasting now for like two weeks isn't it yeah it's been percolating a little bit uh maybe you know started as as you know like a kingsford you know just regular coals on there but yeah it is kind of like a trigger now and then those pellets are are getting very very hot and kind of reaching uh the zeitgeist but how's the meat how's the meat though that's inside that

trigger grill well i guess we'll find out uh because you know michigan they they should you know i mean this is maybe jim harbaugh's best team at Michigan. I don't think anything's going to happen until after the season, so we'll see if that team can kind of ride the ebbs and flows like you guys mentioned a little bit and win a national championship. Then the chickens will come home to roost if you will. Yes, they will. Happier here, Pete. That's the authority.

If he doesn't know, nobody does. And then one half of the hammer down. Cowboys tone. Who are you? Matt Canada. Just Matt Canada. Just Matt Canada. Why wouldn't I be just Matt Canada? Well, you got horns sticking out of your...

And your skin is red. Did you tan last night? I'm Matt Canada, but some say that Matt Canada has been taken over by the devil. What's that? The internet. I've seen internet things that Matt Canada's body has been taken over by the devil

to potentially, and the devil's just playing games, trying to be one of the worst. So once again, you're just Matt Canada. Just Matt Canada. This is what Matt Canada is. He is the devil. Yeah, well, maybe. That's what you're saying?

Jeez, this guy's job's getting fired and now they're saying this guy's the actual Antichrist. Tony. This guy. You guys be the judge. I'm just Matt Canada. However you see me,

that's how you see me. Oh. How is Matt Canada, you think? How's Matt Canada doing? I assume he's doing really well. Like, how couldn't he be doing well? Well, he's being depicted on a show on ESPN right

now is the devil himself the antichrist Beals above yeah that's not good that's not good they had fire Canada chance happened in Utah now he's the devil this guy I bet he's hoping for one day to no longer be the offense coordinator for the Pittsburgh Steelers I assume I assume a lot of people were hoping for that him maybe being one of. But I don't think he knows or realizes what's going on around him. He's just kind of taking himself in. Taking himself in. That seemed to be like you didn't know where you were headed, but I really do appreciate it.

And joining us, like every Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of the football season, a man who's a nine-year NFL vet, host of the Man to Man podcast, and everything DB, Darius J. Butler. D-Butch, the costume is? It's the Doughboy from the 90s. Money-making Mitch, paying full. You're covering your necklace

though. The necklace is a big part of this. That's how I used to move back in the day. Oh, okay. I respect it. You came in looking very cool. We actually thought to ourselves, Halloween, dress up. Right. You're like, yeah, I am.

I am dressed up. I'm a dope boy. I'm like, well, I won't let you know what you look like every single day. I don't want to say, you look so cool. This looks like this would be a regular standard Darius Butler outfit. I would have been rocking this back in the 90s for sure. I mean, I think I could pull it off a little retro. Yeah, I think so too. All right, let's dive into a little football from last night.

The boys in the back are all dressed up as well, and one of them in particular is certainly living his absolute best life. This is going to be tough. I just ripped Lolita's inside. Oh, no. I just realized there's a little tight around the legs there. Yeah. No, Ursae was trying to save Lolita's life.

So you did a full reenactment of her life. So last night, there's a lot of things that took place. One of them, Jameer Gibbs said, how you doing? Keep it moving. I'm the guy up here. I know Montgomery is incredible, and he's the thunder, and I'm supposed to be the lightning. But if you were just to give me the rock, good things will happen.

Has over 150 yards from line of scrimmage in like the middle of the third quarter. Just absolutely dominant performance. Catching the rock. He was running between the tackles. You're talking about an electrifying football player who found himself numerous times just jogging out of bounds so he didn't get hit. Smart guy.

Tough guy. Durable guy. And ah, ah, ah, yak guy as well. I know when Jameer Gibbs was drafted, there was a lot of Lions fans that were potentially questioning what the hell was going on. We don't need Jameer Gibbs, backup guy. What are we doing with that?

And then when Jack Campbell was drafted to the Detroit Lions, they said, we don't need Jack Campbell. These people are getting it all wrong. Uh-uh. The Detroit Lions have gotten it all right, and that lady is Jack. They did a post-lift interview. The guy she's with was like, wow, you really did lift his entire body up. It's like, yeah, you should see what the internet's saying.

This is maybe the strongest woman of all time. She basically curls Jameer Gibbs into the stands, which is a fantastic rendition of the Lambeau Leap up there in Ford Field. The Ford Field frolicking fans. Whatever it is, I love the celebration. I love the coming out party for Jameer Gibbs. And I love the fact that Campbell and everybody in Detroit, Spielman they even showed a little bit last night,

everybody up there has gotten it right from the beginning, finding their guys. And then on the defensive side of the ball, they were so dominant. Now we're talking about Devontae Adams leaving, Jimmy G's not, McDaniel's going to get fired. I mean, just like so many things happened for the Detroit Lions team last night that made us believe and remember why we think this Lions team can go on a run this year. Yeah, you talked about Gibbs.

You know, Goff played a solid game, had the one bad play to Marcus Peters, which he picked six, took to the house. But Gibbs was dynamic. Laporta always dynamic. St. Brown. Then defensively, all three levels. McNeil had a couple sacks. Anzalone on the second level had a couple sacks.

Kirby Joseph had a pick, an important pick in the red area. So just an all-around effort for the Lions. And like you said, getting their guys in that building. I know I loved the Gibbs pick when they took him. Even at 12, just because you turn on the film, he's electric. He's like an Alvin Kamara, Jamal Charles kind of hybrid almost. And it's going to be exciting just seeing him get more and more touches in this offense. Foxy, obviously Detroit's in a much different place now than they were just a few years ago.

Oh, yeah. With the Lions and everything. Who are you dressed up as here? Oh, just Kid Rock. Detroit's all the way back. I had to be Kid Rock, baby. Why not Jack Harlow? Kid, huh?

I don't know if you're Kid Rock. Blonde hair, sunglasses, Detroit sweater. I see it. Does it say rock? Make a hair, sunglasses, Detroit sweater. I see it. Does it say Ronald? Make a T-butt. I see it. Okay. It feels like you mailed this one in.

What? Yeah. What? What? What? What? What? What?

What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

What? What? What? Yeah, because if you started looking around you back there, Zito is actually Brian Urlacher on the shoulders of an actual bear. Yeah. Okay? So he's actually on the shoulders of a bear.

Okay? So the bear's in between Brian Urlacher. He has full pads on. Zito has full pads on. Beast. He's actually on the shoulders of a bear. So the bear's in between Brian and Eric. He has full pads on. Zito has full pads on. Zito could go play middle linebacker right now. You got a blonde wig on, Foxy? Yeah, and sunglasses and a tarp.

Yeah, but look behind you. You want to talk about a wig and sunglasses and a tarp? Look at how good Gumpy is. Happy Halloween, Gumpy. Happy Halloween, boys. Great to be here. Hey, do you guys celebrate Halloween in Canada? Oh, yeah. Big party.

Really? Yeah, you're doing great today, I see. What are we here? What are you? What is the? The title was 80s Dude. That's nice. I added some sunglasses and some chains to the outfit.

Oh, so you made it more 80s. Yeah, yeah. It looks like the cloudy. I might wear this wig every day, to be honest. Yeah, this could be your new hair. Feels good. Feels good. It does. I might wear this wig every day, to be honest. Yeah, this could be your new hair. Feels good. And then right next to you, obviously, it appears as if we have...

Micah Parsons? Gentlemen, I am Scott Stapp from the 2001 Thanksgiving halftime performance of Jerry World. Okay, little Mitch. Let's go there. Okay. Let's make our escape. Come on. Let's go there. What's that? Let's ask, can we stay? Sing. Come on, let's go there.

What's that? Let's ask, can we stay? Sing it with me in Annapolis. Can you take me higher? Boom. What was running back and forth? Is that a ghost? Is that a ghost running back and forth? This is my creative dance

performance artist, Beal. He hangs from the rafters of Jerry World and flies around on his sheet. Nice. Can we get him running? Bill Shirtless? I believe Bill is shirtless back there. Bill, can you come do some of your creative dance? Yeah.

So we can really get a good glimpse of this. So this is the inspo here. This is the inspo we're learning on the big screen here. Okay? So that is who Bill is. I see it. Oh, yeah. All right.

Bill, it makes sense. Oh, yeah. Yup. Okay. Thank you, Bill. All right. All right. Okay.

Stole the show. Wow. You guys had a couples costume. Yeah. I did not know that. Those two, nonetheless. That's a custom jersey, by the way. That's a $180 custom Scott Stapp jersey.

Hell yeah, it is. Hell yeah. Hey, see, that's what I'm talking about. Thank you, Nick. Atta boy, Nick. Dirty back there. I like dirty's costume. Dirty has a good one.

Boobie. He's a boob? Yeah, he's a boobie. Have a little respect. Jesus Christ. You want to win? Look at this. I'm ready to spin at any moment, coach.

Yeah, you're damn right. Full pads there, too. Maybe you and Zito go one-on-ones or something. Earl Acker versus Boobie Miles. Happy Halloween. Dream matchup. See you in the A-gap. I'd play that guy on a knee injury all the time.

Run him right up a middle. Didn't think twice about it. Yeah, feels like that's probably the right play. Feels like he has a knee brace on too. I think if I saw his uniform earlier. Shout out to everybody dressing up and playing the part and buying in, except for Foxy. Foxy mailed it in.

We talk about Kid Rock all the time on this show. I mean, that has nothing to do with what you did here. And the Lions are all the way back. The Red Wings are all the way back. Detroit's all the way back. Gotta be Kid Rock. Okay, your facial hair. And the Lions are all the way back. The Red Wings are all the way back. Detroit's all the way back. Got to be Kid Rock. Okay, so let's talk about the Lions.

I was hoping maybe an MCDC appearance out of you today, especially after what happened last night. Way too much muscle, though. Way too much muscle. Yeah, good point. And if you think about what McDaniel has been able to do down in Miami, not McDaniel's in Las Vegas. That's a complete opposite situation.

I'm talking about McDaniel down in Miami. And I do love the fact that we're giving actual takes. Dressed as a whale in Spider-Man and everything. Happy Halloween. It's a beautiful time. But if you look at Dan Campbell and McDaniel, they've been able to implement a culture that is not only in their image and name and everything,

but they've remained true to themselves literally since day one. McDaniel, before he coached a game in the NFL, was in our office, and he sounded exactly how he sounds right now. He was actually told yesterday that he was a Halloween costume, and this is his exact response.

This is the new wonder kid in the NFL. This is the new guy drawing up plays that everybody else is replicating around the NFL, being told that he is now a Halloween costume and the kids are dressing as him. Speaking of adolescents wearing jerseys, one of the hot costumes in Halloween is you. I've seen it posted on social media, kids dressing up as Mike McDaniel. That does not compute.

That doesn't make any sense. I have the video if you want to see it. They did your run at Monday Night Football. One kid did the run and then the fan last night. Was it faster than the kid? So I'm just curious, what, as you see it, goes into dressing up like Mike McDaniel? I have no idea. This is, I refuse to accept that as reality.

So he has been like that literally since day one. He's been able to lead a team. Not just a team, a team of superstars, a team that is very, very talented, and he's remained the same exact person. Listen to this interview that Michelle Beisner-Buck had with Motor City Dan Campbell last night, and listen to how he, and watch how he reacts to his first group of team that he had a chance to coach with the Detroit Lions.

It was September of 2021, and you were just getting started here. And I asked you to give me one word that would describe your locker room and the identity of that team. It was two years ago. At that time. Do you have any recollection of what that word might have been? No, it would probably be something like gritty.

Boom. Is that the word that you would still use today? Absolutely. Why? Absolutely. We're the same gritty team. We're just more talented. That's what I would say.

Because the core of that group, man, you talk about a bunch of dudes that were just going to battle. And we didn't quite have the horses we got now. But those guys, you talk about laying it on the line and going toe-to-toe with anybody and willing to fight to the end. I'll never forget those guys. Yeah. You know? Yeah. anybody and willing to fight to the end I'll never forget those guys yeah you know yeah what's making you emotional right now you thought about a guy with a high ankle sprain going back into the game yeah so we just love it think about the fuck downs I just got a broken wrist come on 10 up down I appreciate appreciate guys that lay it on the line. Hell yeah. Maybe

you're outnumbered. Maybe you're not the most talented and maybe the odds are against you and nobody believes in you. And I respect the hell out of those guys that'll fight, you know? And that's what we're about. That's what we're about, man. That's how we roll here. That's why I get emotional. It's like real crying. That's a genuine cry. And it's like if you're a player that watches that, it's like, man, our coach.

Hey, our coach genuinely loves us. Our coach is all the way in with us. That's why I think that culture is so strong up there because they found the guys that they wanted, obviously. They're like, hey, we need guys that fit our culture. What did Kyle Whittingham say? You're changing for us. We're not changing for you, pretty much. That is how I think a culture

that's already been built has to operate because it's like, hey, we are who we are. You can fit in or you can get the hell out. It feels like they found their guys and that guy is somebody that I put out a tweet last night that said, I'd run through a wall with that guy. And normally when you're talking about a coach, you say for that guy. I said with that guy because it does feel like he is literally right next to

him running onto the field every single game. He's doing the up-downs with him. He's in the practice with him. His speeches are like, this is what we are. I love everything about his leadership style, and it's paying off massively, obviously, for the Detroit Lions. Yeah, I mean, the GM, Brad Holmes, and Dan Campbell have just built this team in their identity.

You always hear people say good football teams take on the identity of a head coach. I mean, bad football teams at times, too. You see it with Mike McDaniel and what's going on with Dan Campbell. And you see that interview, you know it's not bullshit. You know it's real, so you know it resonates. You know, as players, as former players, you know, hey, you just want a coach to be himself.

You know, the football's going to come to X and O's. The great coaches, Ben Johnson, Aaron Glenn, they're going to do their thing. But when it comes to identity, when it comes to, you know, that leader of men that got to stand in front of us, you know, every day to kind of set that tone for the game, for the year, for the practice week, just be yourself, be authentic, and that's who Dan Campbell has been from the jump. Pete, he cried after a loss in like 2021,

I think, after a game. And we all immediately said, guy's going to be crying a lot. Hey, listen, this is the NFL. You're the coach of the Detroit Lions. Can't have you crying after a loss. That's what we said at the time. But now we're looking back, it was like he was heartbroken that they lost that game. And I think in that press conference when he was crying, he said, you get so beat up whenever you see your guys do everything right and it doesn't pay off for them. He's

living and dying with every single play. He's old school coach. I love everything about it. You have to hate that in the NFC North, especially with where you guys are sitting, Pete. Yeah, absolutely. But it's also hard to hate a guy like Dan Campbell because we had a lot of fun when he first got hired. This guy's a big, dumb dipshit.

He's a doofus. Everything he says, he sounds like a moron. We're going to laugh at him. We're going to make fun of him. And then they stunk, and we kept saying that kind of stuff. But yeah, at this point, again, they got their guys in there. And I think one of the big things that not a lot of people are talking about that actually matters, he played for the Lions.

So he understands, hey, this team sucked when I was here. I lost a lot of football games. I know what this means to this city and these people and all that kind of stuff. And then, obviously, you hit on a couple draft picks. And people are kind of casting aspersions and throwing stones at you for that as well. But you hit on those draft picks and those guys come in and they make an immediate impact. And then, yeah, sure, it doesn't hurt that the division absolutely stinks

right now and the boogeyman, you know, Aaron Rodgers isn't there anymore. But, I mean, Jared Goff's playing his best football. You know, that offensive line's tough. That defensive line's tough and physical. I mean, they – DeButt mentioned it. You know, they really are kind of molded in the image of Dan Campbell, and it just kind of took him a little bit of time to get rolling. Is this your best one yet, you think?

I don't know. You know, I mean, I've kind of just in the office been doing Pete Thamel a little bit for the guys and everything, but, you know, I've really had an opportunity to kind of, you know, take it to center stage. But, yeah enjoying i'm enjoying doing it right now for sure it's the way he speaks because he's so intelligent his vocabulary yeah the words the words we told pete before we went live today hey pete somebody's dressing up as you today and he said who and i said the talented one yeah and i don't know if he knew what that meant or not, but I'm very thankful that it is Halloween

and that we have Pete Thamel in the office. It does sound exactly like him when he's talking. You don't have any of the sources, any of the ability to reach out to whoever, whenever. No, definitely not. But you certainly sound like him. Well, I appreciate that, and I do want Pete to know, this is coming from a

deep-seated, very deep-down place of admiration. Where at, Pete? In my loins, down in my gut. It's just, I respect the hell out of Pete Thamel. Every time we see him when we go somewhere, I immediately, where's Pete Thamel at?

I gotta go shake his hand, talk to him, see how the family is, see how he's doing. I just want Pete to know that this is a lot of admiration that I have for him, and that's why I decided to kind of dress up as him for Halloween. Okay, well, we appreciate Pete. I appreciate you, and I don't know how Pete's going to feel. We'll talk to him in a couple hours.

He should like it. He's the first. Yeah. Just like when McDaniel learned that somebody dressed up as him for Halloween. Pete, you're the authority now. Bingo. This is what happens. You're a big name. Could have been Shefty. Could have been, yeah. Could have been Rappaport. Yeah big name. Could have been Shefty. Could have been Rapaport. Could have been Shams.

Could have been all these. But instead you're the authority of college football, Pete Thamel. Yeah, there was only one choice and it was pretty obvious. Is it because you sound exactly like him potentially? I don't know. I mean, I listen to that college game day podcast a lot. Again, we all love Pete Thamel. So, you know, basically anytime he opens his mouth, I'm beelining to a TV. Again, we all love Pete Thamel.

Basically, anytime he opens his mouth, I'm beelining to a TV to make sure I can hear what he says. That could be part of it, sure. Honestly, I had no idea how it was going to go over when I decided to do it today. I'm glad you guys are enjoying it thus far. We are enjoying it. Very much. I don't know how the people at home feel about it. Very much. Pete is the one. I can't know how the people at home feel about it. Very much. Pete is the one.

I can't wait to hear from Pete. How do you think Pete will respond to a Pete Thamel impersonation happening for three hours on ESPN? Well, I hope he thinks it's pretty good. And I hope that he enjoys it. Because like I said, I'm not throwing stones at Pete. I'm not trying to be a jerk or trying to jerk his chain or anything like that. I'm trying to kind of pay an homage to who I believe. Yeah, trying to complete another jerk.

Yeah, exactly. If you will, yeah, jerk his pee-pee a little bit. I won't say that to him, but that's kind of metaphorically speaking, of course. Yes, exactly. Metaphorically, make him feel good about himself. Right, right. Let's talk about a place that's not feeling good about themselves, shall we? Spider-Man and Matt Canada?

This Raiders situation is fascinating. There's a lot of things to decipher here and to decode. Devontae Adams, I talked about this on first take. Remember, he left Green Bay Packers. Green Bay Packers made an offer that was similar to what the Raiders offered allegedly. Then I heard Stephen A. Smith say

they were delayed with that offer, though. That's on their fault. I didn't remember that being a part of the story, but Stephen A. saying it leads me to believe that that was certainly a part of the story on Devontae's side. It was like, yeah, as I'm going and deciding to go to the Raiders, they say, wait, wait, wait. As I'm out the door, here's a deal. Maybe that's how it went down. But nonetheless, there's a lot of things said. Devontae said he wanted to get out from underneath maybe the shadow of playing with Aaron Rodgers because everything he would do well you got the best football thrower of all time throwing you the ball they were friends but I think he kind of said I want to go prove to people that I could

still be Devontae Adams without Aaron Rodgers he goes to Derek Carr a guy he knows very well very very well the situation how it ends with Derek Carr and the Raiders bad yeah terrible kick him out of the building yeah we didn't know that at the time. We assumed that was the case at the time. But now that Derek Carr has kind of come out and spoke about what the situation was, they basically just told him, hey, don't come back. We can't have you getting hurt walking down the steps or maybe walking through the parking lot.

And then we're going to owe you $50 million guaranteed. We're moving on. Don't come back. Derek Carr has come out and said, like, wish it would have ended a little bit. Wish I could have came and said goodbye to, like, the people in the cafeteria. You know, like, trainers and equipment managers. I was the face of the franchise. Long time.

Long time. Helped with the transition into Vegas. Like, loved being a Raider. Had pride being a Raider. You guys just kind of kicked me out. Business is business. We get that. But think about Devontae watching that all kind of unfold.

He's like, wait a second. I came here to play with Derek Carr. Now, is Derek Carr Aaron Rodgers? I don't think anybody's saying that, but I just watched Derek Carr this past weekend against Indianapolis Colts, and he was putting things on. Michael Thomas has his back shoulder catch against the Colts in, like, the first quarter, and it was a laser.

You saw some Derek Carr greatness. Now, there is moments of Derek Carr doing Derek Carr stuff, but I don't think Devontae expected, okay, Jimmy G's going to be my quarterback. Aiden O'Connell's going to be my quarterback. Josh McDaniel's offense is not going to work. The team is going to be abysmal, and then they're going to be looking at maybe a turnover in my third year here with head coach, quarterback, GM. Who knows what the future looks like?

So after a game like last night where Devontae dropped a ball, hey, that does not happen, especially with the conversations that have all taken place around Devontae and the situation about not being targeted, and let's get this guy the ball, and the other things he said. He did drop one ball last night. Anomaly. Yes.

Not used. He dropped one ball. Okay, we get it. But, buddy, there's like 200 yards of receiving on the field still from Jimmy G missing them. And you start thinking to yourself, are the Raiders going to be able to fix their situation in the next year, in the next two years when Devontae's under contract?

Do we think Jimmy G's going to be the quarterback next year or two years from now for the Las Vegas Raiders? Do we think McDaniels is going to be the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders a year from now, two years from now? So if you're Devontae, and allegedly Jordan Schultz of the Schultz Report, now with Bleacher Report, came out and said that Devontae did test how interested the Raiders would be.

I mean, that's just a miss. That's just a massive miss that doesn't happen in the NFL. Jimmy G came out and said it was a bad day. But you can't be having a bad day whenever we're in the middle of a discussion about wasting a guy's prime talent years and what he wants to become day, but you can't be having a bad day whenever we're in the middle of a discussion about wasting you guys' prime talent years and what he wants to become and what your team can become. Now, Jimmy's going to have a bad day.

That takes place, but Devontae is about done with everybody having bad days all the time, seemingly, since he's come to the Las Vegas Raiders. Trade deadline today at 4 p.m. So you have to start thinking to yourself, is Devontae Adams going to move on from the Raiders? You start looking at his contract. If they were to trade him, I think it would be a $31.5 million dead cap hit.

If he was to go to another team, they'd owe him $3.8 million, which I believe is a prorated salary for this year, and then $17 million the year after that. Every team in the NFL can make that happen somehow. I feel like there's a very good chance he's going to be on the move, even though he signed a massive contract to become a Raider, and it has done nothing like we thought it was going to become, D-Buck. Man, he's got to be just a long nightmare right now

because from the time he went over there, I feel like we've kind of seen a different side of Devontae. We've always seen him and almost not really heard him off the field, but he was complaining about targets last year. And then even this offseason, kind of talking about, you know, him still being him away from Aaron Rodgers and things like that. But now with where things are going with McDaniels, the quarterback situation up and down week to week, like that receiver position is great to have them. But they are dependent on so many other things. They're dependent on the play callers, a good offensive line, a good quarterback to make good decision to throw.

So it's frustrating, man. You see his transition to, you know, Las Vegas and then Tyreek's transition to Miami. You remember both of these guys pretty much moving the same offseason. Like, I mean, it's night and day what's going on there. So I wouldn't be shocked at all if he moves maybe the Niners. I know they got the most cap space. I know you mentioned the Chiefs earlier in the division, so we'll see.

Ravens. Ravens. Ravens would be unbelievable. Indianapolis Colts. I don't know about that one. Chicago Bears are buying. Chicago Bears are trading. Chicago Bears are making trades. They traded for sweat this morning from the Washington Commanders.

I don't think anybody thought the Bears would be buyers in this situation, but allegedly what is being reported is they have $110 million in cap space going forward after this season, and they know that they won't be able to get Montez Sweat in a second round next year. So this is basically free agency in the middle of season looking ahead to next year. Not a bad play at all if that's the case. They have a corner who's requesting a trade in Chicago.

Jalen Johnson. I wonder if this changes that whole thing. And what are the Bears doing? This is interesting because they still will have those number ones, right, because it's a second-round pick. So still be able to make moves with young talent, and they're able to do free agency. Not a bad way to use the trade deadline here in Chicago.

But to my point, though, you never know who's going to decide to trade for a team or who's going to make the best offer for anybody. You would assume it's going to be the teams that want to go win a Super Bowl. Very, very true. And talking about Devontae, he did sign up to go play with Derek Carr, and with Derek Carr, he had 100 catches, 15 touchdowns, I think, and 1,500 yards. So he had a really good season with Derek Carr, and then

I mean, he couldn't be happy with what the Raiders did to Derek Carr because their friend was going on. You look like an asshole. What do you mean? Well, that's kind of what I was going for. But, yes. That's who you are.

Devontae, like you guys mentioned the Ravens, that makes a ton of sense. Because, like, OBJ, he's there. He's having an okay season. Zay Flowers is – but they don't have that Devontae guy. Devontae is different. The Chiefs make the most sense out of any team in the league because, yes, if

the blueprint is out, which I don't think it is from the Broncos last week or whatever against Kelsey, you can't do that to Kelsey with Devontae. But are they going to trade within the division? I assume it would take a lot. But if you're the Chiefs, give up whatever. It's not like you don't need the draft. I mean, you take a lot, but if you're the Chiefs, give up whatever. It's not like you don't need the draft. You have your team,

whatever you have, Pat Mahomes. Could you imagine they do trade him to the Chiefs and he ends up playing there for eight years doing everything that we all assume he'd be able to do with Patrick Mahomes? The Raiders fans who are already, I'd assume, very confused about how we got to this point yet again with another coach, another office, another quarterback,

another situation. Raiders fans are the real deal, too. They got a lot of passion. Feels like you guys are only five, ten years away. Five, ten years away. At least. It's coming. Every five, ten years they're five, ten years away. Patrick Wilhelm's still in that division, though. Ten to twelve years away.

Yeah, maybe twenty. Fifteen, twenty. Well, you're on the other side of it now, Packers fans so I mean the Lions are feeling very good about their situation over there joining us now ladies and gentlemen is a man who we've obviously become a massive fan of not just because he's an Italian people say that about us come on that we like them just because his name is sweet to say that's not the case the reason why we love him is because he's been a coach for so damn long and his teams have always

been so damn good and he gets little to no credit ever. Ladies and gentlemen, the defensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals, Lou Anaruma. Yeah, Lou!

Coach Lou! Coach Lou, how you doing, pal? I'm Lolito. Talk a day. I'm a Buddhist whale that died that Jim Irsay fell in love with. How are you doing

on this beautiful Tuesday? I'm doing great. I was just sitting here listening. Devontae Hurd's real happy in Vegas. Let's just leave him there and don't send him to the Chiefs or the Ravens, okay? Yeah, no, he's going to the Ravens, I heard, Coach. I heard Devontae's going to the Baltimore Ravens.

You're going to have to see him two times a year for the next eight to ten years. Good luck with that, Lou. Yeah, no kidding. Hey, real quick. Don't like that. Hey, whenever you're talking about a player like that, and obviously you've been a defense coordinator for a long time,

a successful one, so you've seen the offense kind of evolve in the way the current NFL is and the way you have to defend people. Whenever we talk about a Devontae Adams or a true number one, and they say it changes the math, what does that mean? Are you taking your second and third best corner, putting them on people? What is the – how do star wide receivers change everything for a defensive coordinator in a defense at the NFL right now? That's a great question.

I mean, to me, anytime you're dealing with a great wide out, it affects if you're going to double the guy, how are you going to double him. And then when you start talking about, you know, allocating resources to a receiver, then it changes the math and the run fits and how you're going to, you know, stop a good run team at the same time. So it causes way more discussions than if it's a team that's not as good as in terms of running the football. But, man, you're now doubling a guy. And then, oh, by the way, how are you going to how are you going to outnumber him in the run game? That's where the issues become massive and decisions become massive.

Whenever they say a blueprint's out, is that true? You're going to watch people that are successful, obviously, against the court. For instance, Kansas City Chiefs, what just happened to them with Denver. People are like, oh, this is going to be the way that you play the Kansas City Chiefs. This is how you beat the Kansas City Chiefs. Is that an accurate depiction of what actually happens behind the scenes? I just think if there's maybe something in a game that fits kind of what you do, that you might maybe take a look at it. But if it's totally different from what our scheme

is or what we're doing, I don't think you would. But I'd be lying if we said, hey, this was good and it worked. And oh, by the way, it's pretty close to what we do. Then why wouldn't we do it? Yeah, I think everybody, that's kind of the story of the NFL. They call it a copycat league. I didn't know exactly how it panned out. How about you guys? Huh? Wait, hey. Hey, we're back, baby. Listen, I know you guys never thought you left,

but I'm just telling you from a national perspective, the conversation about the team a few weeks ago versus where you are now is vastly different. We're singing the praises of the Cincinnati Bengals in the jungle being up in the top. Big time win in Santa Clara. What did you know going into that game that maybe your guys were going to show up or were you all kind of riding the

wave and experiencing it at the same time as all of us watching you guys? Well, I just think that was a great win, as everybody said, against such a great opponent. But we've never had any wavering here at all. It's just how we are around here. I think we just take it one game at a time

and believing that we'd all come around as the season progressed. And, you know, it's just a great belief in each other, the players, the coaches. And, you know, it showed on Sunday, you know, coming off the bye week, we had a great week of practice and the guys were ready to go. And, you know, we've played in so many big games over the last few years. This was just another one against a really good team. And our guys believe in themselves and what we do and how we do it. And it showed on Sunday. Hey, self-scout during the bye week, looking at other people.

Why is there always an advantage coming off a bye week seemingly? Other than rest, of course. Yeah, the rest for the players is huge. But, you know, we're not – I think you fight the battle, to be honest. I know I fought it a little bit about maybe doing too much because you do have the extra days and the extra time to prepare. So, you know, you look at what we've called, what I've called on certain situations, you try to change that up a little bit. And then just, you know, the extra time to just detail it out a little bit more, you get the extra practice day. So that certainly helped us, especially

against, you know against the San Francisco offense where they give you so many issues that you've got to deal with. I have some good news for you that just came through. Adam Schefter just reported that his sources are telling him not a chance in hell that Devontae Adams gets traded from the Raiders.

Congrats, Coach! There we go, Coach! Speak it into existence. There it is. Yeah, it's probably because you came out and said, hey, let's all relax, okay? Let's all maybe think about keeping them in there. Let's talk about the new offenses, though,

because we do talk about the Niners offense a lot. We talk about the Miami offense a lot. Do you have to just build for whenever you're inevitably going to run into these teams that are juggernauts, or how do you go about balancing against, like, Cleveland Browns team? All right, we're going to do this one. Miami's wide open. The 49ers without Trent Williams and Debo, obviously a little bit different.

But how do you prepare for teams that seem to be so vastly different offensively in the modern NFL? I think, well, it helps being in our division because we get a little bit of that here. You know, you talked about it. You get the Browns that are going to line up in multiple tight ends. And before Chubb got hurt, you're going to get a heavy dose of him, and that's what they do.

But we see different things from different teams, you know, with Lamar and what they do at Baltimore, the steals and what they do. But then, you know, oh, by the way, we've got to get ready for the Chiefs and the Dolphins hopefully in the playoffs, you know, as we go down the road. So to me, it's a fine line. We get to see a lot of different things from our offense, which really helps in the spring and OTAs and training camp.

So we get a good mix based on, again, what we see from our own guys and then within our own division. It's crazy how much the offenses are kind of evolving and changing, but then there's old school still happening. Almost right. It's almost old school is becoming like the, the new school. It's an interesting time.

You've been around long enough to know that. I won't let you know though. Whoever your barber is your fade on Sunday. Hey Lou. He'll love that. He'll love that. You look like you were 38 years old. I mean, I don't know what the routine is.

I don't know if it's just because you're Italian. You look phenomenal right now, Coach. I appreciate that. I really do. And would it really surprise you if I said that my barber was an Italian guy? Yeah, it would not have surprised me. I couldn't even fathom the conversations that are happening between you paisanos as well. Darius has a question for you, Coach.

You guys do so much on Sundays. Is that kind of a byproduct of having a large core, your group of guys that are still there and kind of carried over? I know you lost two safeties, kind of the business, Von Bell, Jesse Bates. But is that part of that? Because I could watch film and see you in Seattle, lined up seven, eight man's front, bringing the gas on third and long.

And then this week, same look, but now dropping eight. Like how does that work into that as a coach? Yeah, I think it is a byproduct for sure of having the guys in the same system for a long time. And we're able to build off of things that, you know, maybe you wouldn't be able to if it was a new group, but we can, we can pull back from some things or reach back to different game plans and say, Hey, we're going to make this look like what we did two weeks ago.

And they'll know. And the beauty of it is we can do that on the fly and the sidelines where our linebackers, Jermaine and Jermaine Pratt and Logan Wilson, they, you know, we have conversations on the sideline, like they're coaches. Those guys really are unbelievable. And it just sprinkles throughout the defense. I mean, you look at what DJ reader did in on Sunday's game.

You know, he, he was basically unblockable on so many different plays and, and he had a big part of what we did, but yeah, it's, it's a big, big by-product of how we have so many guys on the same together, kept them together. Huge turnovers by those backers too last week. Big, big, big time plays. Hey, two picks and a fumble. Let's go for the whole defense. Unbelievable.

Unbelievable catch by Jermaine. I don't know how he caught that thing. He's an athlete, bro. He got some freaks out there. I mean, Trey Hendrickson I mean, you got some dogs out there, Coach. A lot of success, which means one thing, Spider-Man. Yeah, Coach, right now, early on at least, your name is one of the hottest ones around the Internet

about being a head coach for next season. And obviously, after last year and the year before, we thought that this might be the year that you would get that opportunity. Has that crept in at all? I know you're probably focused week to week on the next offense that you've got to defend, of course, but is there kind of that feeling that you're getting, like, holy shit, it is finally my time?

This should have happened a long time ago. Yeah, I mean, I would be lying if I said it's certainly not on my mind, but we're focused solely on what we're doing right now. We've got a great team, and we want to take advantage of everything here. And I think as long as we do that, everything else will take care of itself. Hey, Coach, though, finally getting some love. Yep. Finally getting some love.

Not just for good haircuts. Not just for good haircuts, but for potential gigs out there. Ty, I have a question for you. Coach, going into the game, a lot was made about Brock Purdy kind of coming back down to earth, so to speak, over the last few weeks or so. Because early on in the season, everyone's considering him a world beater. He hadn't thrown a touchdown.

When you are looking at the tape and game planning for the game, was there anything you noticed in Brock Purdy from week to week that let you know that, hey guys, he's going to be gettable this week. He might give us one or two. I just think if we can change the looks on any quarterback, I think that gives us an advantage. As Darius pointed out, we did on that one play, and we almost had an interception on that play.

We tipped the ball, or the safety might have picked it off. But I just think when you're changing looks the way we did, one of the interceptions we had done something that we hadn't done all season against Empty, and he threw it to Logan on that one. But, no, he's a good quarterback. He was a lot more elusive than I thought he would be, you know, getting out of the pocket and stuff. But he throws the ball really well on time,

and we wanted to make sure we tried to throw off the timing as best we could. Okay, you've got another quarterback coming in. Hey, Josh Allen, Sunday Night Football. The whole world's going to be watching, Coach. I assume the haircut's going to be just as fresh, but whenever you talk about the Buffalo Bills, whenever you're getting ready for them, do you watch their – because they've been –

this is me just being on TV saying dumb stuff on a regular basis. You probably see it differently, but they've been a little bit more inconsistent than normal on the offensive side of the ball. How we view, are you watching for like their best stuff? Are you looking like what they normally are like? How do you prepare for Josh Allen when the year is gone, how it's gone for the Buffalo Bills so far?

I mean, I just, we just look at the core things that they've always done over the, over his course of his career. We know, uh, having an, you know, good idea of what, uh, plays or what type of concepts they'll run, but man, what an explosive guy at any point he can pull the ball down and run. He can make every throw as we all know. And then they've got great weapons on the outside. So, um, they're doing it. They're doing a good job running the ball. We just take the whole thing in and, and, uh, you know and we don't look at so much what was negative, what was positive.

It's more about just taking it all in and making sure we understand, hey, these are the concepts we've got to stop. This is what the plays that we think where they're going to attack us and then go from there. How about Big Joey being back? Now, we're saying he's back, but he certainly looked more healthy than ever. He had two quarterback draws. He had an escape on third down in the first quarter.

He's running faster than seemingly he's ever run before. At the beginning of the year with that calf injury, I don't think any of us outside of Cincinnati fully understood what was going on. If he was going to get better, he maintained that he was going to keep feeling better, keep getting better. Then this past weekend, he's

back to being old-fashioned. Joey diving for first downs. Quarterback draws being called. And then, boom, need to get it. Got to have it. Scoot, scoot. That's a great defense he's running right by. How has it been having him?

Oh, no. Oh, no. Uh-oh. We lost. It just says Bengals. Lou, what you do? Coach. We start showing highlights of the offense.

He said, I'm not talking about you. I'm defense coordinator. Shut down. Do not even think about asking me about the offensive side of the ball. It's interesting hearing him chit-chat about, like, you know, superstar wide receivers or, like, Josh Allen. He's like, listen, let's not. You guys can judge if he's been up or down.

I just know what's possible every single play with that guy. He can run, jump over you. He can also throw an 85-yard bomb at any given moment, which is why I think this Bills team is always in a conversation for, like, can go get it. You out on the Bills this year? Yeah. No, I'm not out.

I'm not out. Too talented. They are missing some big-time players, especially on defense, but too talented, especially at the quarterback position. I still think Sean McDermott is a good head coach. Great weapons over there. So a good coaching staff, definitely not out on the bills yet. I'm in on the Bengals, not only because of how they played,

but because I forgot how cool Lou Annery was. The coolest. The best. That dude could just sit in a pocket if he had to. I mean, are you really shocked that his barber was an Italian? What does that mean, Pete? Well, I'm just saying, you know, Italian guys look pretty cool. And from what I know, you know, Tone Diggs, Nick Moraldo, Pat yourself.

Not you. You're not getting a haircut from a guy who's not Italian. You know, you're not letting some Irish guy cut your hair. No. I think we all do, actually. I think we all do. JC's Irish? What?

I thought he was Italian. I do not think the back porch barber is Italian. I thought his last name was Jaycee Eno. I thought that's what his last name was. You thought his first name was Jay? Uh-huh. Last name C-O-No? C-E-E-No.

C-E-E-No. Yes. Told us he was from Sicily. Yeah. I never said that. I never said that. Yeah, no, he's from Sic Yeah. I never said that. I never said that. Yeah, no, he's from Sicily. I never said that.

But I do believe we should think about trying to maybe find an old Italian man to cut our hair. Good idea. Because you see what's going on with Lou's head every single... Ladies and gentlemen, speaking of, ladies and gentlemen, Lou Ann Rubio. Yeah, coach. Coach, talk about your haircut, your barber, seeing if this paisan would... Jeez Louise. The pumpkin ghoul just scared the shit out of me there, coach.

I apologize. Great to have you back. What I was chit-chatting about was Joey looks like he's all the way back healthy. At the beginning of the year, they kept telling us, hey, the calf is going to get better and better. That's hard to believe in the middle of an NFL season that something's going to get better. It clearly has and did.

What do you see from Joey behind the scenes, and how big of a relief is that for everybody that, okay, our guy who's different than everybody else in the NFL is all the way back to full health seemingly? Yeah, I think everybody, you know, as you mentioned, that's a tough injury and he was able to manage it throughout in those early games. But when he stiff-armed Bosa there and got out of that sack,

that just, I think, let everybody signal to everybody what we had seen during practice that, you know, Joe is feeling really good and comfortable enough to, you know, to put that extra element into his game, which is, you know, being able to move and run. And it just stresses, I know as for on our side, man, it just stresses the defense out when you can not only drop back and throw it the way he can, but also get out and make plays on the move. It's just devastating to a defense. Who's somebody on your defense we should talk about more, Coach?

Is there somebody that we should talk about? I don't know if you watch our show, but is there anybody that we should be giving a little bit more love to, Coach? I mean, DJ Reader up front for sure, along with Hubbard and Hendrickson. And Cam Talebret there in the back end is doing a nice job and being around the ball a lot. So those two guys for sure. Hey, Coach, we appreciate you so much.

We know you probably got film to get back to, a big Sunday night football game. You got a haircut to get at some point. You do your thing. We appreciate the hell out of you. Happy Halloween, Coach. Thanks for having me, everybody. Happy Halloween.

Love the outfit there. Hey, thank you. Rest in peace, obviously, Lolita. Hey, favorite Halloween candy, Coach? Favorite Halloween candy? We'll go with candy corns. Oh, yes. What?

Coach. Love it. So you walk in. You walk in. There's a bowl of candy corn right here. There's a bowl of Reese's right here. Full old school Reese's, okay? Then there's a bowl Reese's right here full old school Reese's okay then there's Reese's pieces here there's M&M's old school M&M's peanut M&M's right here Snickers

Twix Kit Kat Almond Joy Almond Joy Butterfinger Butterfingers Babe Ruth you're going right for the candy the candy corn ones where you're headed? Double fisted. Dog. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Lou Anarumo. Yeah, coach! I did not expect that. Candy corn gets too much hate, I think. I agree. I will eat candy corn.

I'm not buying it, but if I'm at a place where candy corn is, I'll go ahead and enjoy it. If candy corn is mixed in with the mix, I'm at a place where candy corn is, I'll go ahead and enjoy. If candy corn is mixed in with the mix, I'm not, like, mad about it. But if there's a – you know what I mean? We just set up a full buffet pretty much there. And he said he's going right to the candy corn. I don't know if that's the right decision.

It's grit in him. It's just grit. That's a defensive coordinator. Yeah, old school defense coordinator. That's what I want out of my defense coordinator. I hate candy corn, but my defensive coordinator, I want him walking in just saying, give me the candy corn. I will say that I protected Coach Louie Anarumo

to not have to have a conversation with Matt Candle, offense coordinator of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC North, who is, I guess. You mean his worst nightmare? Yeah. The devil? The devil is what you're talking about? Is that what you're talking about?

You heard him. He said, look at the offenses we face in the AFC North. said you know the browns we got three tights they bang it the ravens they they present a lot of options and and troubles and the steelers are there too that's what he said yeah well that's a real deal he understands the situation uh let's go through some news here on this trade deadline day ian rapaport is reporting that the commanders may not be done. They are now taking calls on former No. 2 overall pick Chase Young after they've already moved on from Montez Sweat to the Chicago

Bears of all teams. The Chicago Bears were the buyers of Montez Sweat. Then also we reported that in the middle of the Lou Anarumo conversation that Adam Schefter broke the news that his sources have told him that the Raiders are not moving on from Devontae Adams. You signed the deal. This is what you signed up for when you

play with the Las Vegas Raiders, Devontae. Them playing on Monday night, and it was chatted about yesterday with the Lions potentially wanting to add something. You can't really make any moves because if it gets public and then your players hear it they got a game on monday night that's very very important so they're kind of delayed like by 24 hours after the sunday game how many moves end up getting forced together today is the big question i think the commander situation is kind of telling because they get rid of sweat who's going to be a free agent uh young is going to be a free agent it It feels like, hey, let's get as many draft picks as we can because these guys probably aren't going to be with us next year

because we're probably going to have a new head coach, a new GM, a new everything. New team name? New stadium? I hope so. There is a new stadium coming down the line somewhere. A new team name would be sweet, but it feels like this is potentially leading into a full rebuild situation. Joining us now is a man who does a full rebuild

every morning when he wakes up. Hell yeah. He wakes up and says, you know what? I gotta do the same exact thing I did yesterday. I'm a man of consistency. I'm a man who's won a college football national championship. I'm a man who's won a Super Bowl championship. I'm a man who has won at the Ryder Cup. I'm the current president of

Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now on this beautiful Halloween Tuesday, A.J. Hawk. Yeah, Hawker! Yes, A.J. What's up, guys? This is a character that no, this should give it away.

Johnny Depp played me in a movie back in the day called Edward Scissorhands. Yeah, Hawker! I got two of these. I'm going to keep one on the whole show. The other one, it's kind of tough. I've knocked half things over on my desk here so far. Yeah, I understand how gloves and maybe scissors coming out of your hands

could potentially be problematic. What was the inspo here? You just love the character? Yeah, I mean, the character was great. I watched it 100 years ago whenever the movie came out. But, you know, just bought multiple things on Amazon. This one seemed like the right one. Bro! hey yeah you look good baby sorry about it did my own makeup too did you really yeah because yeah i could yeah why wouldn't i well jeff already did

so i mean i guess you're good enough to do it yourself but you did a great job here dude like nice little is that ombre a little fade from the eye? Look at you, dude. Wow. Look at you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I don't like to tiptoe into things.

I'm going all in. I get he's Edward Scissorhands, but his face looks so much like Frankenstein that it's hard not to see that. I thought you were Criss Angel. I thought you were Criss Angel. I could be. Thank you. That's a great compliment you gave me.

You have football pants on? Because if you do. I should have, honestly. I could have done a hybrid. Criss Angel, Scissorhands. Can you guess what Connor is? Batman. Close.

There's a man in there. You do look like the great Spider-Man. Boom. I love that this is on ESPN. Think about how mad. Did the other shows do this? Think about how mad. I thought Get Up did this.

You know, on game day, those people that were just trying to cook me, three minutes into game day, I'm shirtless, standing on a thing. I'm thinking about those people, actually. Never going to win them over being shirtless here three minutes into this. And then here we are on JSPN, Journalism Sports Network, and we are wearing full costumes for two hours. We had a real conversation with Coach Lou Anarumo there, though. They're going to

question our journalism because we were wearing whale costumes. He's not actually Pete D'Amel, but if he was, they would take it more serious. I can't even fathom what they're going to do with this now on the screen every single day. This is real journalism. Hell yeah. I'll be honest. I

really got to kind of commend AJ because we remember last year, you know, he kind of gave us this song and dance of, yeah, I bought a $500 mask. The mask looked like shit. It was a terrible mask. It was a terrible costume. And, you know, he kind of tried to dangle that carrot in front of us like, oh, I spent all this money on this costume. It's really great. But it sucked. It was terrible. It was one of the worst costumes we'd ever seen.

And now? And now he looks absolutely unbelievable. Amazing. I mean. Comeback player of the year. Comeback player of the year. Indeed. Comeback player of the year for Halloween.

Bravo, AJ. Bravo. Now, D-Bud's just a dope boy from the 90s. Yeah. Have you seen this? This is. D-Bud looks awesome. He looks great, man. Good.

He could do that. He could easily wear man. Good. He can do that. He can easily wear that any day of the week. Okay, there we go. See, now he's adding new pieces. Smart. We've got a thick chain here. Did you see Scott Stapp of the Cowboys halftime show with shirtless Bill flying around? Did you see that?

Hello, my friend. We meet again. The creeper? He's not the creeper. He's the dancer. What the hell? He's the the Creeper. He's the dancer. Yeah. What the hell? He's the big, bald baby. You were at the game. He was crawling around on the ground behind him. That's why I'm saying he's a Creeper with his shirt off.

All right. He wasn't crawling. Hey, let's talk about some. When I saw it. That is, I mean, we'll save Mitt for the second hour. Yeah. What's he wearing? Mitt's good.

Mitt's got a great costume. Hey, Mitt, why don't you come out here, pal? Why don't you come out here, pal? Listen, I think this is supposed to be Vince, Vinny Chase. Vinny Chase is supposed to be the original Aquaman, if you do recall from Entourage. Get your trident. Get your trident. But instead, what is he doing?

Jason Momoa did the gimmick, and Mitt needs to start wearing this type of stuff more often. He showed up this morning looking like an actual superhero. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who scored a 32 on his ACT, a guy who answers the phones for us at 1-833-432-3663. It is one of the most intelligent humans on earth, Mitt. Atta boy, Mitt. Look at this guy. Look at this.. Oh, boy.

Look at this. Is that Jason Momoa? Yeah. This might be the leader in the clubhouse, to be honest with you, in the Thunderdome. I think so. Do the sound effects. Yeah! Yeah!

All right. That's all he does. Thanks, Mitt. Very well done, Mitt. Hell yeah. His cheeks are out in that thing. Oh, yeah. Are you serious? He's got that thing shoved up his cheeks.

Yeah, you can see his ball bag. He's not wearing underwear. He said it wouldn't fit. So that's what we're in the middle of over here. Happy Halloween. Underwear will fit. You can fit some underwear in there. You would think.

But I will say, I think the back to cheek wasn't as long as what he needed. Yeah. So that thing's shoved right up in between there. He's going through some pain right now wearing that. But that's what Aquaman does. That's what Aquaman has to do. He's going to need some Neosporin for that gooch tonight. We've got about a minute and a half left.

There's a lot of things that could potentially happen that probably are inevitably not going to happen. Devontae Adams not being traded. Sweat was traded. There's a chance that Chase Young is now available via Ian Rappaport. I don't know if Adam Schefter has any leads there's a chance that Chase Young is now available via Ian Rappaport. I don't know if Adam Schefter has any leads on anybody being traded after the conversation we had with him yesterday. And then he popped into Monday Night Football last night and said like,

yeah, nothing really. There was an interesting drop in the middle of it. But then Joe Buck reminded us 11 people were traded last year on the trade deadline. AJ, are we going to get fireworks or not while we're all dressed up in our costumes? I think it's possible that there's one or two fireworks left out there. I really do. I think so too. I was hoping for like maybe 10. That was kind of the plan of the whole show.

But then as we continue to read the tea leaves, yeah, maybe! You're right, Edward. You're right, Edward. There is a maybe. I don't know. We got a lot of clips, though, to kind of run through. Nick Sirianni had to talk about one of his players answering an Instagram DM. There's other videos from around college football that need to be watched. Jim Harbaugh had his first press conference that we've really seen

since all the allegations have been made public, and he handled it like a PR wizard. I mean, absolutely. Dabo Swinney's letting fans of the Clemson Tigers know that they're the ones to blame for them being 4-4 right now and losing 7 of the last 12 or whatever it is. They're in a bad spot down there. And Dabo's like, you ingrates. Football is happening all around us, obviously, especially on this trade deadline Tuesday, where teams will now have two hours and 59 minutes to get a trade done to make their team better now or their team better in the future.

That is Edward Scissorhands, AJ Hawk right there. Hey, boy. Hey, AJ. Hey, AJ. You look really like Johnny Depp. Maybe that's, you know, I don't know if anybody's dumping in your bed, but you look exactly like old Edward Scissorhands, pal. Yeah, we know Johnny had a high publicity trial that went on a couple years back. So, yeah, this is, you know, just trying to, there it is right there.

I got pretty much that whole costume right there. I've learned a lot about Johnny through that entire thing. Interesting cat, certainly a thespian, and he nailed a lot of movie characters, including that one right there. The toxic table looks a little different today. At Boston Corner is Spider-Man, and obviously we have Ty Schmidt as Pete Thamel. A couple of Pete's, huh?

Yeah, you know, from one Peter Parker, obviously, to Pete Thamel, one Pete to another. Didn't think that would be happening today, but it is Halloween. It's very spooky. It's very fun. I'm glad to be here. Are you having a good time, Pete? Yeah, absolutely.

One of the kind of issues I'm running through right now is my ear has quite a bit of fluid and whatnot in it, so it keeps popping, kind of leaking down the side of my face. And it hurts a little bit, but, you know but we're going to battle adversity, and we're going to get through, just like Michigan football is doing right now, with all the tricks and gamuts that they're having to run through, with seemingly the sky falling, the clouds falling on top of them. Yeah, it's crazy. The NCAA showed up at their house on Halloween in Trick or Treat,

and Michigan was like, we got both for you. Here's a treat for you. And then we got a couple tricks as well. You should see. We got a guy standing on CMU sidelines. He's on Central Michigan University sidelines scouting Michigan State, allegedly with sunglasses on at night and a hat laying low, just sneaking in. What's that guy saying over there?

It feels like a real elaborate plan out of the Michigan folks there. Authority? Yeah, it absolutely does. And I don't know if it's going to be a done deal or anything like that. But I think the easiest way to kind of put this whole thing to bed would be for Jim Harbaugh to maybe just make Connor Stallions disappear.

Now, I'm not suggesting anything one way or the other. That guy served our country. I know he did. I know he did i know he did and and and i appreciate that you know hurrah and all that kind of stuff he was marine i believe um but you know at the end of the day this guy's writing a 500 to 600 page manifesto and kind of i mean he he's the one who's you know kind of getting jim harbaugh on hot water i don't i don't necessarily know if jim harbaugh knew what was going on. Just a suggestion. Again, I'm not saying anything one

way or another, but I think maybe Jim Harbaugh wants this to go away. Maybe he makes Connor Stallions go away, too. We hope that is not the case, obviously. This is just football we're talking about. It sounds like you're talking about something much more serious, but you are the authority. No, I'm not suggesting it.

Maybe let him go be a graduate assistant at Illinois or Wyoming or Air Force. Get him the hell out of the Big Ten. Air Force undefeated as well. They are. They're not a bad team to drop into. A team that's not undefeated but has an incredible offense led by this man.

One half of the hammer. Down. Cowboys. 10 Diggs is just Matt Canada. Yep, just Matt Canada. I'm just here trying to learn from you guys and your big, beautiful football brains. I could take anything in today. AJ, how do you feel about just Matt Canada there, Tone Diggs' idea?

Is he very sunburned or what's going on with the red? He usually doesn't look that way. Is it a filter? Is there a filter? No, you got horns coming out of your helmet. That could be a filter too. I believe a lot of the kids today are playing with a, what is that? Snapchat?

Yeah, that Snapchat app where they could put funny Halloween filters on people. We do not have the tech for that. You dressed up like Matt Canada's the devil. That's what you did. Matt Canada's life is already bad enough. They're chanting for his ass to be fired in Utah, and now you're out here on television acting like he's the damn devil. That is, this guy's living a tough life.

He's got a family. Today, Matt Canada was lined up to talk to the media and an iPhone fell off the counter that he was talking in front of and he said, I didn't touch that. Although somebody's going to figure out a way to say that I did. That is how Matt Canada feels right now and for good reason. This dude put

horns through his favorite Steelers hat and said this guy's the devil, the Antichrist reincarnated. This is a big if, and I'm not saying it. I'm not trying to portray it. But if he were the devil, he wouldn't have to touch that phone. He could move that phone with his mind and potentially knock it off the table that way. So, boom, he's not the devil.

He could be. Way to go, Coach K. That's good. That's positive. I will say, JSPN is not going to be happy about any of this. Journalism Sports Network is not going to be pumped that this is running on the airwaves. Can't enjoy Halloween. Certainly cannot do that to an offense coordinator in the NFL.

Unbelievable what happened. I will say, very respectful. Solid, solid costume. Oh, yeah. Looks like something maybe wear most days. Not just Halloween because how cool he looks. Darius J. Butler is here as a dope boy from the 90s. Hey, baby D-Bot.

Here we go. Fresh Air Forces. Yeah. Does Thamel know the music or no? What's that? Any of those good songs from the dope boys? Who? You're talking about Pete Thamel?

Yep. Pete Thamel, you ever meet a 90s dope boy? Well, I have seen the acclaimed film that D-Bot is portraying, Paid in Full. I believe, if I'm not mistaken, Mackay Pfeiffer's in that one. And then I think the man who portrayed, his name is escaping my mind right now,

but he was in Remember the Titans. It was also Avon Barksdale. So the guy who, left side, strong side, I believe he's in Paid in Full as well. Cam Ryan. So the guy who, you know, left side, strong side, I believe he's in paid and full as well. Cam Ryan. Attitude reflects leadership, Captain? Correct. Julius Campbell.

Julius Campbell. I'll tell you what, Authority, we knew that you knew. Yeah, of course. I mean, yeah, I'm a pretty cultured guy. You know, I know guys in Miami. I know guys in South Central. I know guys in Washington. I know guys in New York, Boston, obviously, my stomping grounds.

How about the Dakotas? Dakotas, yeah. I could probably call a guy or two. Head basketball coach there probably or something like that. Well, yeah. I mean, at one time, yeah, I knew every assistant coach, staffer, head basketball coach of basically every Division I program in the country. So a couple weeks ago when you guys were at Notre Dame, I mean, out of nowhere, boom, hey, guys,

Michael Shrewsbury, head coach of Notre Dame, good buddy of mine. So, yeah, I mean, you want me to make a phone call or two, get a guy on the line? Yeah, I could probably figure that out. I do believe that this is one of the most This Shows for Us shows in the history of all time. But, AJ, Pete Thamel, I don't think Pete knows this. This is why I want the Pete chance to start a college game day.

The more you meet him, most interesting man maybe to ever live. Maybe to ever live. Knows every – he's an insider for something that has 130 schools. Insider in the NFL, 32 teams. Okay, 32 teams. Insider for any other sport, 32 teams roughly. College football has 130 of them, and the coaches get pulled from the 130 up to 50 to 40 to 30.

You get hired that way. He's got to know everybody. This guy knows every human on earth. It is bananas. Literally every time you see Pete, he's on the phone talking to a receivers coach somewhere or maybe a quality control coach or recruiting coordinator. He literally knows everyone in the college football landscape. Knows everyone's names.

Knows their families. Knows how they're doing. Pete Thamel is an absolute weapon. Make no mistake about it. Concur. And he won't take offense to that like old NHL Network weapon did that guy absolutely stinks

no, this guy's awesome, you mean Pete, oh I'm not talking about Pete Thamel I'm talking about that son of a bitch from NHL Network that's who I'm talking about, we all liked him he's a weapon, remember? I heard he killed you, I mean Takate joining now, rest in peace joining us now is a man who could be a doctor, we assume.

Love you, Takate. And the only reason why we're saying that is because what his body is doing is something that no other body has ever been able to do. And obviously, it's being super publicized as we follow along. This guy's defying all expectations with a recovery to Achilles that is normally, I don't want to say career altering, but at least season ending. Now he's already doing dropbacks like 46 days after surgery. Ladies and gentlemen, the four-time NFL MVP, Aaron Rodgers.

He looks super cool. What are you guys wearing? It's incredible. So I'm Lolita or Tarkate, depending upon when you meet me. I'm a Buddhist whale that died before I could get on a 757 that Jim Irsay was paying for and fly to the ocean in the Pacific Northwest. AJ is perfect as... Harambe?

Harambe? I'm the whale Harambe. No. I'm the whale Harambe. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. I thought AJ might be Harambe, but I guess he's Scissorhands.

Edward. I thought you might be Chuck Berry, AJ. The greatest guitar player of all time? No, I chose not to be him today. Who are you, Aaron? You look super cool. Happy Halloween. Yeah, happy Halloween. I had my costume on last night.

What was it? I couldn't wear it today. I apologize. What was it? A vaccine? A doctor? A scientist? It was a spike protein. Oh, I've heard about this.

It's a brand new one, right? This is a brand new one? This is the multi, I think. I just heard about this yesterday. You're always on top of it a brand new one, right? This is a brand new one. This is the multi, I think. I just heard about this yesterday. You're always on top of it. Of course, that's why you should have been a doctor. Anyways, let's move along. Let's talk about your doctors.

We're dropping back and passing, dude. What's going on? Mustache looks awesome. Okay, the bubble gum, big bubble. Pop it. So cool, so relaxed. Last week, you got a sandbag in. You said, there's no progressions.

I'm kind of getting bummed out about the recovery, the rehab. Nothing really happening. And then the next time we see you, you're doing three-step drops, walking very casually, and absolutely spinning it. Where are we right now, and how pumped were you to feel this type of motion this quickly after the Achilles surgery? I mean, that felt great, honestly. I got my super dad shoes on.

They're the Rockers. You can tell they have basically a little, you know, half circle on the bottom. It allows me to get from my heel to my midfoot to my toe pretty easily. And last week was a tough week of rehab, but we kind of adjusted some things with the shoes and with my insoles. And later in the week, I really started to progress kind of back onto what I was doing a few days before that. And that was honestly the goal was to just kind of keep on getting better, be able to do a little bit more. I've been doing more of my rehab and feeling

like I can kind of get into a little abbreviated left-right, left-right drop. And I just felt normal just to be out there and throw, mess around with Timmy a little bit and play catch. And, you know, I just feel like I was, you know, part of it. That's what it's all about. That's why I've been flying back here to see the guys, encourage them, be on the headset. But, yeah, for me, that's just fun to be able to feel like, you know, just kind of a part of it, not too distant from the squad. We talked to Thomas Morstead yesterday. He had a massive game, obviously, just absolutely.

MVP of the game, man. He was incredible. Yeah, he's really good, has been really good for a long time too. And he told us he grew the mustache, you know, in honor of you because, you know, he said a lot of guys signed on this team because Aaron Rodgers was going to be our quarterback and we were excited for it and then he said you can kind of already see how the movie is being written about this particular season with how it was supposed to go then the adversity that comes four plays into this

and then the recovery and how it could end with the Jets sticking around are you still dreaming big dreams and whenever you talk to the guys what are the conversations like because it feels like their admiration for you in that locker room is through the roof i hope you feel that well we made some great connections over the three months you know that i was there after the trade and uh you know into the uh the slight little break and back for training camp thomas is one of them we had a you know him myself and kind of the older guys greg zerloin outwoods uh we're all a part of uh a squadron a team for the uh navy seals came in and did some cool stuff and showed us how to clear rooms and team building stuff and And we're all part of Team Zulu. So we have this kind of this little celebration we do for each other.

We like make a Z with our hands. And there was a lot of that going on on Sunday because both those guys had incredible games and they've been so steady for us. But there's a real tight knit bond on the team and especially with some of the older guys who've been around for a long time and been to other places. And just you feel how special the vibe is that we have and the connection with the guys and um i'm thankful for for that it's fun to be back you know just where i'm at in the locker room i get to spend time with the uh some of the older vets

and the d lineman over in my corner for whatever reason it's like q jeff al woods john franklin myers uh duane Brown's over there. So we're always having some fun conversations. I miss those times. There's nothing like it. You guys know. There's nothing like the locker room and cutting up and figuring out the problems of the world, you know, in between meetings like we always do.

But I'm thankful for Thomas. He's become a good friend. His wife doesn't really know my name. She called me the wrong name when she met me. She called me Andrew. So I'm met me. She called me Andrew. So I'm not sure who she thought I was, but that's a little joke. That's a little joke between Thomas and I and Daphne.

I don't even know. I think her name is Diane or Daphne or something, but it's probably neither of those. But no, I love Thomas, man. What a great guy. What a weirdo in the best way. You watch him after he punts it and he sprints down to the guys and then sprints off the field.

But him and Greg and Hennessy have been doing a great job. And our teams have been really good. Our special teams have been really, really good. We had a legit returner. And then we've been covering kicks well. Obviously, our defense has been incredible. And offensively, you know, we've gone through our struggles for sure. But they don't, like we say in golf, you know, they don't drop pictures in the scorecard.

They don't really drop pictures, you know, in the standings either. A win is a win. And those ones seem to always count a little bit more late in the season. You know, being four and three now and coming away with a win in that ugly game is going to make things a little bit more interesting as we get into November and December because you're four and three everybody's dreaming those big dreams still yeah we feel huh huh we're still motivated inspired to do that for sure I mean the goal is to is to come back and the goal is to be able to have that conversation. Again, there's still a lot that has to happen. Every week seems to be there take some dropbacks, put legitimate weight onto it, transfer my weight, get onto my front foot,

do really high-percentage body weight walking and calf raises. We're just progressing, so it's really good. There's still a long way to go, and a lot of things have to happen. We obviously have to be still alive, but, God, I love the vibe on the team. I'm proud of our guys. I'm really proud of Zach there late in the game with two huge throws and a clock with a second left to get us into position. I'm proud of the fact that we lost our top two centers and Tippman was out.

And we're playing with a guy who just got promoted from the P squad at center and Billy Turner, who's been a long time, you know, mostly tackle in the league playing right guard. So really proud of the guys up front, the way we battled again, wasn't a pretty game, but that shit doesn't matter. You know,

at the end of the season, when you're vying for playoff spots, that one counts in the W column. Yeah. And if you're still alive for a guy, he's 39, who has an Achilles to come back and still be in it for who cares how you win. Now they will say,

no, the ref didn't touch that ball when it was spotted. But, hey, who cares? One your way. Got to keep it moving. AJ has a question for you, Eric. You mentioned how tight your team was and the culture and everything and how you guys get along so well. How do you build that?

Is that simply just bringing in the right type of people or obviously bringing in the right type of people and then putting them in positions? How does that happen? I'm sure you've been on, obviously, teams over the years where that, you know, comes and goes with how well the team gets along compared to other times when maybe they're not as tight. No, we've been on a lot of those teams together, you know.

And, you know, you and I would sit and talk about a lot of this stuff, about the chemistry that we have, about guys coming together and the camaraderie. I think a lot of it is just the culture, you know, fostering an environment where you're allowed to have the freedom in a locker room of expression and then also encouraging guys to get together. I think that's a really important part of it, encouraging guys to spend time outside the facility together and build those friendships and those connections

and get to know each other's significant others and families and kids. And I think that's a really, really important part of it. And I think Robert does a great job of that is, you know, the kids are always around. So, you know, I saw some people talking about, you know, me doing random handshakes with random kids. Those aren't random kids. You know, that's like, that's Jackson Downing that we have our own handshake together.

That's Todd Downing, our quarterback coach's son. handshake together. That's Todd Downing, our quarterback coach's son. I got a handshake with Adam Sala, you know, Robert's oldest, you know, who's around all the time. And that stuff, I love that stuff. You know, seeing my little godson, Cade, and his brother, Cass, at practice, Randall's kids is, you know, is awesome. And then getting to meet, you know, I laugh, I joke about, you know, Tommy's wife, not knowing my name, but getting to meet him and his kids and getting to meet his kids and his wife and having to, you know, coach his wives around. It's just, it's an environment of, it really feels like a family.

And I give Coach Sala and Joe Douglas and the freedom that Woody allows for all those people to be around. I think it's really, really important to create an environment where, you know, guys are connected, and it's a big family feel. It feels like what they have going on is not normal in a lot of places, which is why you wonder why the Jets have been in this position for so long, because it feels like the building is being run right. Maybe it's a new group.

But also, could you imagine in New York City, this old-ass man tears his Achilles, fourth play, comes back, leads the team to success for the first time in, what, 50 years or something like that? Oh, my God, Aaron. That'd be a cool Halloween costume people would wear forever. The guy that flipped the Jets organization on its head in New York City. Matt Canada has a question for you, man. Yeah, Aaron, first and foremost, I saw that the watch

you designed dropped. Congratulations on the watch. It looks sweet. Hell yeah, Zena! Oh, look at that! Oh! How much is that? Never mind. Congrats on the deal. That's what I'll say. Congrats on the deal. That's awesome.

But unfortunately, Kirk tore his Achilles this weekend. Have you or will you reach out to Kirk or has he reached out to you potentially for some advice? Yeah, I talked to a couple of different people yesterday who had mentioned that he might want to reach out. And I asked him to pass along his number. And I actually got to talk to him on the phone yesterday. I really like Kirk. And I've competed against him over the years and have a lot of respect for him. And, you know, just got to talk to him, hopefully encourage him a little bit.

It's, you know, sucks. Definitely sucks. He was playing really, really well. Especially, you know, what a crazy situation. Everybody's trying to write him off it's you know sucks definitely sucks he was playing really really well especially you know what a crazy situation everybody's trying to write him off and and you know say everybody's going to get traded there and uh you know they're going to blow that thing up and then they win a few in a row and everybody said oh now they're a playoff team and kirk's obviously playing excellent so disappointed for him and you know in that injury but passed along you know all

the information I could and let him know what's been working for me. Um, not sure what he ends up doing, but also, unfortunately, you know, Al Woods, uh, my, my buddy, my homie, my teammate, uh, had the same thing. And, and, uh, so because, because the rehab has been great because I feel so good, obviously people have been interested in what I'm doing. I've just been passing along what's been working for me. Obviously, I'm a big believer in Dr. Ella Trosh, a big believer in Heather and AA and her staff at Elite doing the rehab. That's the direction I'd probably point anybody to do but

you know just depends on what they're willing to do and and how much you know freedom they have to to get out west but uh definitely the type of surgery i did i think it's going to be way more mainstream moving forward it's not for everybody not for every body type why is it not for everybody right there is it for the recovery process is it because you have to be in la why is it not for everybody right there? Is it for the recovery process? Is it because you have to be in LA? Why is it not for everybody? I think both of those things are part of it. The other, how quick do you want to come back? I said, let's come back as quick as possible. You know, but Kirk's in no rush, you know, like he's not going to be able to make it back for this season. Al, same thing. And Al's a big man.

Al weighs north of 300 pounds. So not necessarily needing to get back on his feet and get moving right away. So, again, it's not for everybody, but there's nobody better than Neil. And I would send anybody to him that was interested. And I would send anybody to him that was interested. But again, it just depends on logistics and a lot of the other things. But I'm in the conversation now when there's an Achilles. And we had an Achilles factory brewing out west with myself and JK and T. White and AVT and who else now? We'll see. Hey, that's obviously hopefully nobody,

but it does feel like there's been more Achilles this year. Have you noticed that as well? And what is your take on that as somebody that's obviously a part of that discussion? Oh, I don't know. I don't know if you can really point to anything. Kirk got hurt on grass. I got hurt on turf. Al got hurt on turf. I'm not sure what T d white got hurt or jk but um it just you know i think there's some fluke injuries that happen from time to time i you know kirk looked like he pump faked and i don't think they were running you know some sort of double move with a seam on the back side but like they like to run but um that just looked like a thing he's done a hundred times you know pump one way reset back throw a seam and

and you could tell by the video you saw kind of the reverberation of his leg up and down when i saw that i knew it was yeah it was going to be achilles yeah it's just if you guys are able and i'm saying you guys as if you know you're a part of the achilles factory which you are you're a massive part of it you're the reason why we're kind of talking about it. If we can expedite the Achilles, right? Like the ACL used to be, okay, it's over. Then science has kind of done its thing. And surgery has kind of expedited it a little bit. And it's not.

It's like, all right, you'll be back. The Achilles still, even in like 2020, was like, you're done. Basically, you're definitely done. If this is able to get sped up quickly, all sports are going to reap the benefits from this. This is a huge deal, I think, for science as a whole, which is why I said the other day, this dude's relationship with science is wild. It really is.

Because you're in a part of it. You're a part of the whole conversation, Aaron. All of it. Well, you know, if science can't be questioned, then it's not science anymore. It's propaganda. So I think with any type of science, or in this case, medicine, I think there always has to be trial and error and new ways of doing things. This whole technique came up based on actually a different process, a different type of surgery.

And the idea for this was built out of a way of anchoring shoulders when you're redoing, you know, a shoulder injury. So that's the way these things have progressed. There's some brilliant minds who've been doing this. Obviously, you know, there's multiple people who've had this surgery now, so it has, you know, some traction. But, yeah, I'm thankful for Neil and thankful for guys like Cam Akers who went through this and came back quickly. But, you know, there's more than one way to do things for sure. I'm excited about my rehab. And, you know, when you have a full rupture of your Achilles, like it has been a death sentence in the past for athletes. And it's kind of one of those injuries you really, really have fear about as a player.

ACL, you know, ligament injury. It's like, okay, I'm going to come back. So many people come back. But Achilles has been rough for a while. So hopefully there's more people doing this type of surgery and then they can just keep continue to make it better I'm not sure what they what they'll do but but uh the more that some brilliant minds work on I'm sure that the better this thing will be but right now I feel great about my recovery and I'm still you know aiming for uh for a comeback

and and hopefully all those things are in place so the conversation is available. Hell yeah. And like the thought of Achilles being a death sentence was not only was it a fear there's also like nothing you could do to prevent it. Like well how can I strengthen it? They're like kinda this might work this might like it's always been something that nobody's really known about and then whenever it inevitably

pops most of the time non-contact it's like non-contact and everybody's like Achilles and everybody's bummed. It's like non-contact and everybody's like Achilles and everybody's bummed. It's like it's over pretty much. So what you're doing is awesome, bro. It's awesome to watch this whole thing and you in those old man shoes dropping back and forth. Did you play with Eli?

Did you catch with Eli? I looked for him. I looked for him. I didn't see him. Oh, he no-showed. That's why they lost. He was scared. A little bit of rain and he didn't show up. Oh! That's why they lost! Oh! A little bit of rain, and he didn't show up. He's retiring. Classic Manning.

Watch it. He went to Denzel. Just joking. I don't blame him, though. It was 80 degrees on Saturday. Beautiful. And then Sunday, it was about 50 and raining and windy. So it might have been too cold for him.

I understand. How was your throws? We didn't see the other side of it. Good? We assume you were... Yeah? Yeah, I was throwing some darts. It was good. too cold for him. I understand. How was your throws? We didn't see the other side of it. Good? We assume you were, yeah? Yeah, I was throwing some darts. It was good. It was real good, yeah.

Let's show a couple more. Boom. That was a dart right there, though. Good throw. We need to know that's a good throw. There were some good ones, yeah. I was hitting the spots. Any misses at all?

Did we bat like 900, 950? Well, I didn't have any real shitty throws. I had maybe a couple that were a little bit off you know slightly you know foot off target but but nothing real all right so we're back all right so we're back i love that aj go ahead edward do you know uh if you have any kind of whenever you do get back on the field whenever that may be any kind of like restrictions or even maybe special shoes you're gonna wear some like some high top that goes up to your knee on your left foot like what do you what's the plan i would assume you already have that in the process right now are you wearing some big gothic boots yourself right

now is that why you're asking no i am not i'm just i assume i can't wait to watch you wear like one normal shoe on your right and then one of those giant dan marino high tops on your left. No, I think the thing we got to remember is I need to be able to move. Otherwise, why the hell would I come back? You know, like I need to be able to play from under center and get to an outside zone handoff and get to a keeper and be able to move in the pocket. Otherwise, I'm not doing ourselves, our team, myself, my career, any, you know, any favor. So I need to be able to move. And so a lot needs to happen before that. I'm not even jogging yet. I'm just taking some nice dropbacks. Um, so a lot's got

to happen. I think that now that the walking has really normalized and I'm able to walk, you know, pretty normal, uh, pretty standard, uh, that I think been able to walk pretty normal, pretty standard, that I think things can progress into jogging and moving. But listen, today is what? Today is Tuesday. October 31st. It's Halloween. Happy Halloween. You look cool. Hey, thank you.

It's seven weeks and a day since the surgery. Or sorry, since the injury. Tomorrow will be seven weeks since the surgery. So we're ahead of schedule um but we still got a long way to go darius has a question for you yeah speaking about that schedule i know the last few times you've been on here you're saying uh you want to stretch stress the achilles but not stretch it and now with drop backs and now you're saying you're walking normal as well are you at the point now where you can stretch the Achilles? Yeah, DB, this is an important time of the recovery of the tendon. Six to 12 weeks is when there's a lot of healing that goes on. I feel like that window is a little quicker because

usually six to 12 weeks is when you finally get some weight on it. And most people are just kind of coming out of a boot six to eight weeks and definitely not in a shoe once you get into the shoe uh you're getting you know more obviously more movement there the tissue uh fibers and muscle fibers are starting to turn on more there's obviously more blood flow going there because i was in a shoe within a couple weeks um we've accelerated that process significantly we've been very very careful with uh not trying to um mess this thing up and so we have kept a real keen eye weekly on the uh not just the strength of the tissue in my calf but the actual structural integrity of that so we've been checking on that um weekly so that we're not stretching that thing out. And some of that is just looking

at how it's kind of laying in when you're in a prone position and just kind of, and your legs are up, just making sure that we haven't stretched that thing out too far. And the other part is actually, you know, doing some ultrasound stuff to make sure that uh the integrity of that is staying in place there is blood flow there there's no tearing or micro tearing of the uh the uh the injury spot where the rupture was where the sutures are everything looks normal so we're being really really smart with this obviously we're pushing it as well but my schedule has been accelerated accelerated because like i said six to eight weeks a lot of people just getting out of a boot and i was i was there

you know in a couple weeks so yeah you're certainly accelerating the entire process we're all watching it whenever you talk about the angle of your foot are we keeping that thing at 90 is that the goal right now we'd obtuse angle there you know what i mean we get a little bit bigger what is the are we is that the goal right now is just to keep that thing locked up or how is it? It's to keep it at an obtuse angle. So we got to be above 90 right now. That's, that's making sure that, uh, it's as safe as possible. We've got to be really careful with, um, the, um, the plantar flexion and, uh, you know, building up all the muscles around, uh, around it. And I'm starting to work in some cardio.

Oh, what are we doing? Upper body? Yeah. What are you doing? Yeah. A lot of Versa climber, uh, total gym, Chuck Norris. Um, okay. A little bit of, you know, uh, Tybo. Dance dance revolution. Nice. PDR. Have you ever seen, there's that one video of somebody just absolutely crushing it. You gotta use

that back banister. That's what you gotta use to kind of balance your feet, I think, is what you have to do. I'm not an expert, but I think I've seen one. Can you walk on the beach? No, that's not very smart. When could you, though? That's great rehab, though.

Will you be able to walk on the beach before you play again? Is that the final test? Well, again, we've got to get to 90 first, but we don't need to get to 90 today. Slow down, Edward. Just answer the question, bro. Slow down, Edward. Jeez, Aaron, this guy.

It's great rehab. Walking on the beach is unbelievable rehab for your feet, ankles. Slow down, Edward. Jeez, Aaron. This guy. It's great rehab. Walking on the beach is unbelievable rehab for your feet, ankles, all of it. I answer a main thing. I understand. It also puts you in plantar flexion past 90 degrees. Idiot. That's why you have scissors for hands and not utensils for medicine. You're not a doctor.

Scalpel. There it is. You idiot. You don't understand science. You're not a doctor. Yeah, scalpel. There it is. You idiot. Yeah, you don't understand science. You do, though. You're right. Right? Hey. Big science. We're a big science show. Huge. Big science. Nobody talks about that. You know what else nobody talks about?

The authority Pete Damo has a question for Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, Aaron, we had you on a couple weeks ago, and you kind of mentioned, you know, when it came to Devontae Adams, hey, even when he's not open, he's open. You know, you just gotta had you on a couple weeks ago, and you kind of mentioned when it came to Devontae Adams, even when he's not open, he's open. You've just got to kind of pepper the football at him. And then obviously with the trade deadline being today and then the Raiders getting gobsmacked last night by the Lions on Monday Night Football,

is there anything that can happen in Vegas for them to kind of right this ship with Devontae? Because, boy, does it look bad. He's pretty pissed off. You know, he's screaming, slamming his helmet, and rightfully so. I mean, you know, they left about 180 yards and two touchdowns out there for him. But do you see there being any world where he gets traded as, you know, kind of a clean start, new page of the book, the best move for him here? Or do you see a path in which they can kind of right this wrong in Las Vegas

with Devontae and Jimmy G? Well, I hope he gets traded because we play him in a couple weeks. So I hope he's not there because he's still the most dynamic receiver in the league. And, you know, obviously there's some frustration last night. I didn't see the game. I was keeping tabs on it, but we had our watch reveal, so I couldn't watch it. Oh, what a night.

I did see a couple of the opportunities that they had. And I think he was, you know, obviously a little bit upset. But he's a very, very valuable player. So whoever is going to want him is going to have to pay up, I'm sure. I don't know why he wouldn't move him because he's a generational talent. But, you know, hopefully he's – listen, I'd love to see him in a couple weeks if he's there and catch up, give him a hug. But I wouldn't be disappointed if he wasn't there when we played him.

So Schefter has come out and said that his source is within the Raiders. And we've obviously read a text that you have sent Schefter in the past and obviously your thoughts on Ian Sattergame for sure but he said his sources at the Raiders say there's no chance in hell that Devontae Adams has moved today kind of goes to the point that you said like it's a generational talent but you started looking at the future over there Aaron and this isn't for you to do obviously you're a jet but like who's gonna be the coach there guys is it just gonna be Josh is it still gonna be Josh McDaniels what does two years look like from? And then are we just wasting a couple years of one of the greatest wide receivers

of all time's career? But I guess what Shannon Sharp said earlier, which is a valid point, that's what he signed up for whenever he went to Las Vegas. It's an interesting game, this trade deadline, because I appreciate the fact that players are getting moved now. For instance, Josh Dobbs just got traded to the Minnesota Vikings. Josh Dobbs just got traded from the Arizona Cardinals to the Minnesota Vikings.

Now, he was announced as the starter by head coach Gannon immediately after last week's game. And then yesterday, Gannon came out and said, nah, it's going to be Terry Kyler going to be starting. And everybody's like, what happened? Literally just the other day, he said, and this is what he actually said. Josh will start, but then what changed between you last week? And everybody's like, what happened? Literally just the other day you said, and this is what he actually said. Josh, we'll start. What changed between you and Lester?

Yeah, just watching the tape again, talking with the staff. I feel like this gives us the best chance to win. Yeah, I watched the tape again. The guy stinks, which also could mean he's not going to be on our team. We are actually now in a position with how great that rocket scientist played. He is now very valuable potentially on the trade market. He's going to Minnesota. Congrats to the Vikings for doing that.

How do you feel about the trade deadline, Aaron? Obviously, your name has been brought up a couple times throughout your career at the trade deadline here, more so as of late than early in it. But how do you feel about teams making moves and those players getting acclimated to the new teams that they're joining? making moves and those players getting acclimated to the new teams that they're joining i don't remember my name being being mentioned a whole lot of trade deadlines but denver what was that off season denver was off season it was off season got it got it got it there was there was a possibility of a trade to the raiders years and years ago for randy moss

that i felt like had some may have had some legs but that was like in 2006 or 7 i feel like um but uh it's exciting i think there's gonna be some some surprises i really do we only got we got a few more hours left i think there'll be a couple big surprises obviously this is way different than it was early in my career there's buyers and sellers and expiring contract guys who can really, really play and help a team out. Probably there's a potential to move them if people are willing to get off of off a draft pick. So I think it's exciting. I know, you know, we're going to be active in discussions and conversations. Not sure what's going to happen.

Obviously, we've had some injuries in the last couple days. But I'm sure that Joe and his staff will be working right up to the final minute. And I would guess, this is just a guess, I think there's going to be a couple names that are really surprising. Nobody that you've mentioned yet. I can't even give you specifics. I'm not some sort of insider. I have no sources here.

But I feel like there'll be a couple names that are surprises by the end of today that get moved. And it'll be some of those teams that feel like they're one player away from winning it. from Philly, who's always really active, it seems like, to the teams that are in that 3-4, 4-4, 4-3 range who feel like one player away from making a run in the playoffs and maybe winning the whole thing could be really active here in the next couple hours. Oh, is this punditry or a little bit of knowledge? Is this just how you see it going? What is this here? It's a feeling that this is going to be more the norm.

And I think Montez Sweat got traded, right? This morning, yep. He's a hell of a player, hell of a player. And I think there's going to be more guys like that who are either on expiring contracts or disgruntled or on a team where things aren't working out and maybe the GM thinks it's going to be you know players a new head coach and shoot maybe even themselves um and it might make some moves so

um this will be the norm i think moving forward uh for a while and i think there'll be some more big names here in the next couple hours well i don't know but what did maybe shepter probably knows better because he's well you know ball washing he's ball washing for a lot of people. Jeez! He's an insider! Jeez! But to echo your point, though, there was a lot of heat or a lot of smoke coming. Like, the Vikings are going to get a quarterback. The Vikings are going to get a quarterback.

A starting quarterback in the NFL this season just got traded to be a starter at another place. That's a pretty big deal on a team that's going to make... And I saw Jameis was involved at one point. Didn't I see his name this morning, too? Like, he might be the one to get traded? What if Jameis was involved at one point. I had to see his name this morning, too. He might be the one to get traded. What if Jameis was back? Sweet.

Could you imagine? Well, I don't think he's going to go to Minnesota now. Yeah, I agree. I agree. We hope, though. We would like to see Jameis starting on all 32 teams as much as possible. I will say. Now, you're talking about insiders and how they have to go about doing their jobs.

Connor has a question for you as a Spider-Man and how he has to go about doing his job. Yeah, Aaron, happy Halloween. There was one performance in a place where you have raw land, and that would be Nashville, Tennessee. Will Levis got the first start. Oh, yeah, you were going to the Titans at one point. Yeah.

You remember that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Another half the Titans at one point. Yeah. You remember that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Another off-season combo. And people kind of still think he might go there. Who knows, though? That's beside the point. How big is it for Will Levis to get that first win under his belt as a rookie?

How do you think he's feeling, especially after, you know, falling in the draft and then on the other side of that, too? How big is it for Will Levis to have a wide receiver like DeAndre Hopkins where you can just throw it up and they won't call any penalties on him for OPI or anything? Wow. What a question. What a question. Listen, I'm happy for the kid. He dealt with a lot of shit on draft day, didn't he?

He was there. He showed up and didn't get picked. Fell the second round. Obviously lost a lot of money uh you know got kind of kicked in the you know what uh from an ego standpoint so really happy for him uh the thing that i thought was amazing was he threw some freaking rainbows didn't he yeah i mean the the last one he threw was a freaking hell of a throw. I don't know if you got the clip, but he rolled to his right and threw this rainbow across the field. This one right here.

This was the best one. This was a hell of a throw. I mean, this ball, when he threw it, it couldn't have looked beautiful. I mean, it's just a perfect throw across the field. So, beautiful uniforms. Love the uniforms. Oh, yeah. yeah best ones in the nfl probably shout out tennessee titans having those ones yeah i think so but awesome

awesome uniforms and uh i mean you couldn't script any better you go out your first start ever after you picked you know picked later and you wanted to go you gotta deal with that embarrassment and you go out and throw four touchdowns when no one's expecting anything from you, probably. I mean, good for Will. I'm happy for him. And yeah, I mean, DeAndre is an incredible, incredible player. He is just one of those gamers. You know, I've never heard of a guy, and I'm not sure what his practice habits are now, but there'd be a lot of weeks where he just wouldn't ever practice. And I've talked to Fitzy about this in Arizona, and he said this dude is incredible.

I mean, the fact that he could not practice and go out and ball out every single week. And I've been a fan of Hop forever. You look at his stats and the 1,000-yard receiving seasons he's had, and you start to look at the quarterbacks. 11 of them, 12 of them. There was no consistency. There was no consistency ever. And he's putting up numbers with anybody.

So, you know, big shout-out to D-Hop. What a baller. And so much props and, you know, just really happy for Will because, man, you can't script your first starts. I don't think they'll go any better than that. So he's got to be feeling great, happy for him. And also excited for Bryce Young. Bryce is an awesome kid.

And, you know, it sucks when you go through stretches where you're really struggling as a team. And for them to get their first win, really awesome. So big congrats to Bryce. Congrats to Will this weekend. I think I saw Josh McCown kiss Bryce on the face after a big time win. That was real excitement down there. A lot of the boys working real hard for a long time.

Get a big time kick to win that thing. It's going to be hard not to lose your mind. Maybe kiss whoever's next to you. On the lips or where was it? No, it was like on the side of the head. It was like a close hug that I think lips just happened to touch head. It was very emotional. It was awesome. I enjoyed seeing Josh McCown down there mixing up because he was a big part of why we thought Bryce would have success.

You know, you've got a lot of quarterbacks. Andy Dalton's down there. You've got McCown down there. Frank Reich's down there. You've got a lot of people around him that have played the position, a lot of snaps, a lot of people who have helped other people play the position of quarterback. And then for it to work and them to finally get to celebrate one time, good on them, Aaron.

Good on them. And then what you were talking about, DeHop there, that was being chatted about whenever he was potentially up for trade to leave the Cardinals. Like, well, we don't know how he goes about doing his thing. And then the only people that were really interested in him were people that had already coached him. Like, Vrabel coached him in Houston.

It was like, oh, he doesn't practice. We can get him to practice one day if we want but also does it matter have you seen what happens on Sundays it's like the people that were familiar with him wanted him and the people that weren't were maybe a little bit scared there's just some guys that are different he feels like he's what they're talking about him maybe getting traded today they're talking about him maybe getting moved well I mean it's it's it's such a fickle league you know week to week uh you know you crown crown people and you destroy people and you're blowing things up or you're back out that's why i feel for kirk because there was a lot of shit around him you know and a lot of people kind of dogging

him and koc and uh a lot of those guys on the team and then he went a few games and now it's like oh you know they're gonna make the playoffs look at their next five games they got five winnable games in a row so feel bad for kirk because i feel like he balled out against sam fran the night too and and was playing good at lambo um you know he's always had some great battles against him but more than anything just a lot of respect for him so that that sucks but but yeah like i said i think there's going to be a couple interesting moves as we go on but one one more thing about D-Hop. If there's anybody in the league that has a similar personality that could recreate the Allen Iverson famous press conference about practice, D-Hop is the man. Because, obviously, that unicorn does not need any snaps of practice to be able to go out there and play at an all-pro level.

He wears 6X gloves, I think, or something. It's like his gloves are ripped. The 5X gloves are ripped. It's cheating. Yes. It's cheating. I mean, like, he doesn't even need them, number one. That one, the Hale Murray, his hand literally just sticks up in between like eight of them.

It's like the Undertaker coming back whenever they buried him alive. And he just sticks his hand. Give me that thing. It's awesome. Undertaker coming back whenever they buried him alive. He sticks his hand, give me that thing. It's awesome. He was all the way back. Will would just throw it whenever he was covered. Other quarterbacks haven't been able to do that. Allegedly, Tannehill wouldn't do that. That's just some people's mentality.

Levis just has that mentality of having faith in his guy. Why does that happen, you think, Aaron? I don't know. If I'm D-Hop, I might have said to him before the game, hey, young fella, just throw it up to me. You know how this works. Throw it up.

And if I'm a rookie quarterback and D-Hop says that to me, I'm probably going to do that. So who knows? I don't know if there was conversation or if Will just said F it. You know, I'm going to throw this ball up as high and far as I can whenever I want and let this man go get it. Hey, that was not pass interference, but also, we need to

commit. You said F it. Huh? Let's go, Aaron. Huh? On his Halloween? That was awesome. Hey, happy Halloween, guys. Happy Halloween. Hey, Edward Scissorhands has a question for you before we let you go, obviously. Seems like you're having a great day. Hey, you said you went to a

watch reveal party last night for Zenith, I believe. I saw some pictures, all the high rollers. Is it Zenith or Zenith? Zenith. Your Zenith watch, I'm sure, is very, very affordable for the regular person to buy. I saw the event last night. Looks like there was some really,

really high rollers. Did you really go dressed as the spiked protein, and how was the event? That's a great question. No, I had a suit on. No tie. That's not you? Thank you. That wasn't me. That's journalism.

We cleared it up. Okay. That is not what he looks like. You fact-checked me with a Bill Gates-funded fact-check organization. Oh! Greg Doyle is going to be so mad right now. I wore a teal suit. What color is that?

Is that brown? What is teal? It's blue and green. It's a blue and green combination. Turquoise? Turquoise. Yes. Turquoise? Turquoise. Yes. Turquoise, yeah.

Yeah. Sign. Turquoise, teal, whatever. Sign. Why are you laughing? What is the question? The way you look right now is absurd. He was giving a really serious answer earlier about Achilles, and we went back to the three

shot, and I just saw your face, and then I looked down here, and the TV's on here, and your face is on ESPN. I lost it. And then you go, what is teal? Like, what is that? I wasn't the only one that didn't know. I promise you that. And teal's a good color.

Teal's a good color out there. Turquoise is a great color. Love it. Let me ask you. I mean, I get everybody else's costume. But what the hell are you doing, AJ? Talking to me? About what?

I'm dressing up for Halloween trick-or-treat. You ever heard of it? What do you mean? You gotta get in the holiday spirit. Do you have any mitts with scissors on them? What do you mean? I've been wearing these all day. I had to take them off. I've been knocking everything down. I got double hands. I had them on.

This guy's double-handed. Yeah. This guy's doing ski slopes with the six. Easy. This guy. Double-sided. It's unbelievable what he's got going on over there. He's committed to the bit.

Committed. Last year, he wore this terrible mask. Brutal. So bad. It was so terrible. It was bad. He was embarrassed by it because he spent a lot of money on it. He was embarrassed about the whole thing.

I'm telling you, he did his makeup himself today, Aaron. Yeah, I did. I, you know, I enjoy a good costume. I had a great one a couple years ago, AJ, at your house, if you remember, for that charity event. I wasn't actually in the same area of where those masks are, otherwise I would have wore those. But it was an ode to AJ's favorite movie, Eyes Wide Shut.

Oh, nice. All right. That's good. Happy to hear that. That's good. Happy to hear that. Everybody loves Tom Cruise. We also saw a couple of your costumes over the last couple of years

because remember that one, you were partying a little bit too close to other people. That's right, John. Remember? You weren't supposed to be that close to people, and you clearly were. I remember there was the 10,000-square-foot warehouse with 20 people there, 19 of them vaxxed,

and I obviously was putting them all in danger. Yes, you were. Thank you for acknowledging. Look at us. Happy Halloween. Here we go. Happy Halloween. All right. I'd like to apologize for that. Thank you. Happy Halloween. Here we go. Happy Halloween. All right.

I'd like to apologize for that. Thank you. Absolutely nobody. Oh, okay. Maybe next week. Hey, maybe that's a good teaser for next week. Enjoy yourself. We appreciate you taking time on this Tuesday.

Keep kicking ass on this Achilles recovery, because obviously Kirk Cousins is reaching out to you. Others are going to continue to do so. This is good for sports in the future, Aaron. This is good for everybody. Hey,. Aaron, this is good for everybody. Hey guys, just cherish the little things, okay? You know what I mean? Have a great day. Happy Halloween, everybody.

Be safe when you're trick-or-treating. If you're giving out candy, don't give out little shitty things. Give some candy bars. Give some Reese's peanut butter cups out. That's what we need in this world. We need more sugar out there for the kids. That's right. What is your favorite candy? Is it Reese's peanut butter cups out. That's what we need in this world. We need more sugar out there for the kids. That's right. What is your favorite candy?

Is it Reese's? Yeah. Reese's peanut butter cups. Maybe Starburst jelly beans or Starburst. The reds. The reds are really fantastic. Pink's not bad. Cherry. You don't want that red dye.

I'll tell you what I don't like is Tootsie Rolls. Just regular old Toots red dye. I'll tell you what I don't like is Tootsie Rolls. Just regular old Tootsie Rolls. That's that shit I don't like. Get it out of here. Yeah, I'm on your side. I didn't even know you were a quote board. Get it.

Cherish a little. He's a quote board. Okay, four-time MVP and a quote board. Ladies and gentlemen, the legend. Keep going, Aaron. We appreciate you. Aaron Rodgers. Aaron.

And, ladies and gentlemen, that's it for us today on JSPN. The Journalism Sports Network had to endure this terrible show. We'll be back tomorrow with more. Have a good one. And right on screws. Absolutely. Hell yeah. Right on screws. Bang. Right on screws. Think about those people watching that

show. Like the executives that are anonymously quoting all these people to kill us. Them sitting in their office looking down at their... What is that man with the white face doing? Is he a shark? A whale? What is... Is that guy the devil? Who is he? He's an offensive coordinator in the NFL?

Oh my God. Are we writing up the PR statement now? Or how is this what ESPN has become? I'm thinking about that all day today. But I think we did good football. We did great. Absolutely. We had medicine coverage, too, on Achilles stuff.

Yeah. I feel like we really hit a home run today on this Halloween. And he's lighting a cigar, obviously, with his scissors. That's the type of talent that you can't find in any other program. Well, and I don't think Tony has revealed the kind of kicker to his costume either yet because Lil Nas X will give him a lap dance later on when he comes in here. What? Allegedly, we are being told now that when Aaron started talking about the vaccine,

they decided to shut the show down. That's what ML football says. Now, ML football has certainly taken things in the past. Oh, yes. Oh. Yes. What was it? Static.

A vaccine. A doctor. A scientist. It was a spike protein. Oh. Oh. I can confirm that that would be fake news. Everyone in the replies is saying that it was only one provider.

Everyone else's did not cut out. ML football, awful announcing combo. Who would have thought? Whoa. Who would have thought? Marks, dude. They were the first to report it. They like to report on the vaccine every week,

but they don't like when Aaron talks about it, but they will report on it every week. place stinks all right nice once again run that can you put the uh pre thing up the uh the no not that the the statement the opinions of the pre-show disclaimer thing the opinions expressed on the show do not necessarily reflect the beliefs of their peers, their boss, or ESPN. What Tone just said there about ML football and awful announcing does not reflect that of all of us. Oh, mine was about awful announcing. I was going to say, if I may, awful announcing certainly fucking hates this show. Oh, yes.

They do. fucking hates this show. Oh, yes. They do. Just about every time you open up your Twitter app, you're going to see some sort of story saying, oh, these assholes are doing this again, or these assholes are ruining this by doing it this way. So they certainly would love to see us crash and burn. Well, I believe in some people's eyes we probably are, but I will say I've muted a lot of those

accounts. Life is so much better. Yeah, it is. You know what I mean? Every once in a while I'll walk into the boys, you know, and they'll be like, did you see? And I'm like, no, I didn't. And I'm like, should I read it? Yeah, probably should.

Okay. All right. Okay. I hate these people forever. I got to do what I got to do. But it's been a fun day. You got to do Halloween. Yeah.

You got to do Halloween. If this ball goes in, this next hour is going to be our best hour. We got Doug Peterson joining us at 210. Let's go. Actual coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. We'll have an actual conversation with him about football as well. Wait until you see the journalism out of that comment. Wait until you see Edward Scissorhands asking about the culture in Jacksonville.

And when they answer that we get from Doug, we did request that he comes in costume. We shall see how that goes. And then Pete Thamel will join us, obviously, at 235 Eastern to chit-chat about everything happening in Michigan. It's getting hotter. It is getting hotter. It's getting weirder and weirder. Like, what is real?

Everything is potentially a part of the conspiracy, the controversy. And then as you look into it deeper, it's like, yeah, maybe. And I think a lot of it obviously started maybe with some Ohio State people pushing because their hate for Michigan. But now it feels like everybody's like, what the hell

is going on up in Michigan? It's been a wild ride these last two weeks with the news as it comes in. Allegedly now we're wearing sunglasses with a hat, hiding in a central Michigan game, trying to look at Michigan State. And it might be real.

We have no idea if it's real or not. And we will certainly ask Pete Dammel about it. Absolutely. And I believe during the show, if I'm not mistaken, it came into the group chat, the stuff with Harbaugh, they were going to do an extension, and then they basically said, no no we're going to table that until all this stuff gets put to bed I believe they're fast tracking that extension now

if what I saw in the group text so he's signing an extension I believe so that's awesome so unfortunately he will not be going back to the NFL is that what that means? saving certain franchises from doom and despair.

You're talking about the Green Bay Packers? Correct, yes. Pete, you're from Boston. Well, yeah, but I love the Packers. I mean, it's a storied tradition, rich tradition, great franchise. They have Coach LaFleur. Yeah. I don't want to put words in Pete Thamel's mouth, per se, but I think Coach LaFleur. Yeah. I don't want to put words in Pete Thamel's mouth, per se,

but I think Coach LaFleur stinks. You kind of have been putting a lot of words in Pete Thamel's mouth. Well, yeah, sure. But, again, when Pete comes on the show, I don't want him to be gobsmacked by anything that I've said. Did you go to DickSanity.com, word of the day? No, I didn't, but I was actually listening to the College Game Day podcast coming in this morning with Pete Thamel and Reece Davis,

and he said gobsmacked several times. So I was like, okay, well, I'm going to need to say gobsmacked on the show today and try to find creative and fun ways to work it into a conversation. I believe I've done that. I'm going to try to maybe say it a couple more times when Pete's on the show as well. You think Pete's been watching this? He's on the phone all day every day. I don't know if he has seen any of this, to be honest with you.

I have no idea. He's so fucking busy that he doesn't have time for this. How about this guy's an actual offense coordinator dressed as the devil, AJ? I mean, it's so confusing for a lot of people, I bet. Yeah, well, how about what you are? Edward Scissorhand, what are you talking about? Johnny Depp. Bro, think about airports.

People are walking through the airport. Uh-huh. Trap. That's the best. That's why I saw it down here, dude. Like, you popped up on the screen. He was talking about Achilles, something super serious. He actually just got done saying, really sad, actually, my teammate.

And I'm giggling because, like, your dumbass popped back on the screen, hadn't seen you in a bit. So I tried to look off the screen so I don't pay attention. And then you're even bigger over there on the big screen on actual ESPN. People just walking through those restaurants. International, the international terminal. Oh, my God. This is when you popped up on a screen.

Couldn't even fathom. Couldn't even fathom. Happy Halloween to all of you as the lights come back on with the incredible display, making sure people know that it's spooky here in the Thunderdome on this holiday. That is a magnificent one that creates great memories and bonds for friends and families alike. That is Edward Scissorhands, who is obviously

all the way in on the role and looks amazing. A.J. Hawk. The toxic table here is a pair of Peters. I got Spider-Man and Pete Thamel. You boys look fantastic. Thank you, Pat. You look fantastic as well. Spider-Man, how was the dump during the break there? Very tough. I got poop all over the back

of my legs, but again, that's just kind of what comes with Halloween. Sometimes you gotta eat that and just keep it moving. You had a Spidey sense that we're coming back because we got a guest joining us that isn't one half of the Hammer Cowboys tone. Diggs is dressed up like just Matt Canada or a nine-year NFL vet who's dressed up like a 90s dope

boy. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butler. The man joining us now is a Super Bowl champion. A man who has gone down to Jacksonville, instilled his culture, and created a winner quickly. A guy that I think we all wished was the head coach of our team whenever he was potentially looking for a new job. Now he's in

Duval with Jax. Him, Deville, who Bungie jumps off the lights to start games. Two pulls in the entire Con Paradise. Ladies and gentlemen, Doug Peterson. Yeah, coach! Coach, how you doing? Hey, I'm doing really well. I love the outfits, man. I love the costumes. It's Halloween. Great job. Hey, thank you, coach. I love the fact you wore the visor. Let do full game day fit you look amazing you look amazing the hair is full can we talk about

this um please you know that the hair is good right that's why you do the visor you know the hair is good here i don't announce it really say it publicly but deep down somewhere in my heart yes yes i do now yeah that's full's fantastic. Every time we see it underneath that visor, you think to yourself, damn, that man's got a good head of hair right there. That can't be real. But let's talk about what can't be real. Hey, you. You go into places and you win.

And they've never won before. Philadelphia. What was it? 50 years or whatever since the last Super Bowl? There's people eating horse poop on the street because of this. Your team goes and does it. Now you're down in Jacksonville. Expectations are win the last Super Bowl. There's people eating horse poop on the street because of this. Your team goes and does it. Now you're down in Jacksonville. Expectations are win the AFC South.

Why do you think that is, Coach, honestly? And what is it about your culture that is so successful so quickly? You know, I really believe in the players. I really believe that, you know, Trent Baalke, myself, you know, we've brought in a group of guys. And there was a group of guys here that are high culture guys. They're high character guys, just great leaders. They went out and drafted Trevor Lawrence a couple years ago, the year before I got here.

So they got the quarterback piece in place. And then just building around that. And really for me, it's just kind of taking the things that I've learned through my professional career as a player, learning from guys like Mike Holmgren and Don Shula and Andy Reid and all the head coaches that I had, you know, in my career, and then obviously translating that over now as a head coach and just getting these guys to kind of buy into that.

And, you know, I do believe that, too, when you win in this league, it comes with a level of respect, and these players have really bought into that. And, listen, they trust each other really really playing really well right now yeah i'd say what a win in pittsburgh this past weekend go ahead aj coach what's it like uh coaching trevor lawrence the guy seems like he is incredibly mature beyond his years as they say sometimes he seems like you can't he's like unflappppable. He has all those, all those things you want in your franchise, QB. How have you kind of seen him grow as well through your time there? Yeah, you know, AJ, I mean, this guy, he's the real deal. You know, and the thing is, he's continuing to get better. And each game, he just takes another step closer in the direction

that we want to go. And really, it is sort of his progression as a quarterback and being one of the elite you know quarterbacks in this league and you know he just he's a sponge he he wants to learn he wants to get better he wants to be coached which which is really sometimes can be rare in this in this day and age but he definitely wants to be pushed hard and challenged and and he's really opened up second year with us you know know, as a staff and in our system. Just a great, great leader, you know. And really, I'll tell you this, too. I mean, going out and getting guys like, you know, Zay Jones and Christian Kirk, Evan Ingram a year ago.

You go get Calvin Ridley this year, you know, and you just put pieces around him. He's done a nice job of getting all those guys involved in our offense. Let's talk about those pieces around him. He's done a nice job of getting all those guys involved in our offense. Let's talk about those pieces around Trevor. The Christian Kirk signing was one that kind of reset the entire wide receiver market. And a lot of people were saying, well, Jacksonville, he's been awesome with Trevor Lawrence. What is it about him and the guys that you've brought in that makes your offense and the offense around Trevor kind of click? And who are you looking for to join your team?

Is there certain types of guys that you want on your roster? Well, obviously you want talented guys, right? Guys that can fit and guys that can fit into your culture. And so when we looked last year, a year ago, in the free agent market and Christian Kirk was available, he's somebody that I really enjoyed watching coming out of college at Texas A&M and thought that his college tape was really good. Of course, I was in Philadelphia at the time.

But getting guys like him here, his work ethic during the week, if you ever came and watched a week of practice and how hard he goes in practice, there's no hesitation why he and Trevor are on the same page because they work extremely hard together and those are the type of guys you want. Zay Jones did the same thing. Calvin Ridley does the same thing. Evan does the same thing. It's just the way they work together and they're high character guys.

They're the unselfish athlete. All they want to do is win, put in the time, put in the effort and it's paying off for our offense and for our team right now. You retiring anytime soon? No. Fuck.

Everything you're saying right now, Coach, sounds like a long, long decade, decade and a half for the Indianapolis Colts. Uh-huh. Two to three decades. You know what I mean? I mean, that's not fantastic news. Hey, Pat, listen.

I got to say this, though. I do really appreciate the shout-out previous to the week one game. That was a great shout-out in the stadium down there, Lucas Oil. That was awesome. Hey, Trevor! Banging that anvil, boom! And then what? Yeah, well, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I felt it. Okay. Yeah, exactly. But it was, listen, if I didn't have respect for you, I wasn't going to say your name. But honestly, from watching you, that Philadelphia Eagles team, you need to know this. As a fan watching from outside in, I saw a video from team meeting night before NFC Championship game,

and Meek Mill, Dreams and Nightmares was playing in there, and everybody in the room, 75- old white offensive line coach was hold up. Wait a minute. Whole team was like vibing. Like the way you've been able to build your teams to come together and be as tight as they are is not normal. So I've always been a massive fan with that being said, when I say your name during a thing, like,

don't be scared to lose that game. You know, it gives me a little bit more credibility around these parts, but we're all massive fans of yours, coach. Honestly. Well, thank you lose that game. You know, it gives me a little bit more credibility around these parts. But we're all massive fans of yours, Coach, honestly. Well, thank you. Thank you. You know, and I'll tell you this. When you empower your players,

and it doesn't always have to fall on my shoulders, you empower the players to be great and let them kind of control the football team. You know, it's their team, right? And let them go play. We just have to steer the ship, let them go. And that's what they did back in Philly in 17. We lost a lot of good players. We lost Darren Sproles that year. We lost, you know, Jason Peters that year. You know, we lost some really good Chris Maragos for the year. We lost our starting quarterback for the

year, you know, but it was a matter of just empowering the team, much like here in Jacksonville, letting the guys take over. And that's really what carries you through the hard times. And really that's carried us through the Super Bowl that year. Massive respect for that. Darius has a question for you. Speaking of empowering players, I got a chance to listen to Trevor Lawrence kind of mic'd up against our coach, talking through the offense, really taking ownership of the offense.

Heard him kind of call out that Christian Kirk touchdown on the slot fade. But also empowering coaches, obviously from a head coaching position. You got OC Press Taylor calling the plays and not yourself as an offensive head coach. What went into that decision? And do you feel like it helps you, I guess, manage the game otherwise when you're not calling plays? Yeah, you know, that's a great question. I've been asked that a lot, especially early in the season. And, you know, obviously it's not an easy decision to come to. It takes a lot of soul-searching and a lot of thought that has to go into that. I do enjoy calling able to control the football game and manage the game and do different things, spend time on defense, spend time on special teams, managing all of that has been a lot better for me.

I see the game differently. I see it more clear, probably, than when you're kind of focused and locked in to call and plays all the time. And listen, Preston and I have been together for seven years, all the way all the way back to our days, you know, in Philadelphia when he was a quality control coach for me. So I got a lot of trust in him and how he puts game plans together. And he's done an outstanding job, you know, for us this year in the first eight games. And so it was that decision right there made it easy, you know, for me to turn it over to Preston. Okay. Let's talk about the first couple weeks where it maybe doesn't look as good as we all kind of expected.

Was there any doubt or thought there as it was happening, or did you have faith? You know, I continued to have faith, but, you know, obviously you're going to get asked a question about every single call, right, because we weren't playing very well. The Kansas City game, the Houston game was just a mess, and, you know, you get a lot of questions about that. But, look, you know, I trusted the players.

I trusted my coaches and said, listen, if we're going to do this thing, we're going to go in all, you know, we're diving in. We're going all the way with this thing. So continued to have faith, continued to have trust and impress, and slowly but surely we worked ourselves. I think the best thing for our football team was to get into Europe, get over to London for 10 days, and really kind of bond and get close, stay in the hotel, travel, do all that stuff.

And that kind of gave us a little bit of that galvanizing feeling back here in Jacksonville. It's like a bowl game. Kind of get time away from everything, eliminate all the distractions, need to be with each other because you're in the same place. That could be a beautiful thing. A lot of people say it's bad to go to London. Feels like you guys have really been able to take advantage of it. Happy that has happened for your team.

Speaking of your team, as we've been live here, you just got a new guard from Minnesota. Congratulations to the Jacksonville Jaguars who just made a trade for Ezra Cleveland from the Minnesota Vikings who have got a quarterback today and now shipped a guard out of town. Obviously, you knew this was going to happen.

You're Doug Peterson. You're the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars. But how does it feel to be on a team that's like buyers at the trade deadline as potentially sellers? That's just expectations, I guess, these days. Well, I think that is expectations. And, you know, obviously getting a good player to come in here and help us. And we've already got a good offensive line.

And Ezra can come in and give us some really good depth. And it's just a matter of getting him caught up and getting him in the room, you know, with a really good offensive line. Guys like Brandon Scherf, I mean, he's the leader in there. And Luke Fortner and, you know, I mean, you look at these guys, Cam Robinson, I mean, Walker Little. These guys are just busting their tail every week. So getting a guy like Ezra, his caliber, we got, you know, a starting type guard really, really solidifies, you know, solidifies our offensive line and makes us better. Go ahead, AJ. Coach, your owner seems awesome. Shad Khan, we see him in his yacht doing

yoga all over the place, sweet mustache. What's it like working for a guy like him? And I assume you have a great relationship. And can you talk on how important that is as a head coach to have a good relationship, not only GM and everyone else in the front office, but also the owner, the guy that is kind of calling shots. Yeah. I mean, a shot is unbelievable. His family's unbelievable, Tony. They're just, they're just humble people. You know, when he bought the team, you know, 12 years ago, I mean, they haven't had a ton of winning seasons here. I think only two winning seasons last year was the second, you know, winning season for him. And, and you want to win for guys like that because he's so humble he gives you every opportunity to be successful gives you all

the resources that you need you know to to add add pieces to your coaching staff add pieces to your football team and and just uh just a humble humble guy to be you know successful in the business world that he is um and and it makes it makes it, I don't want to say easy because, you know, coaching is not easy, but it makes you want to win for a guy like that. And that's the feeling here in Jacksonville, you know, with Mr. Kahn. And just he's so happy and elated, you know, obviously right now and where we are as a football team. He hasn't been in this position, you know,

obviously as an owner in Jacksonville. And, you know, you want to do everything you can to make sure you stay in this position. He was trying to do everything to get that place buzzing. He couldn't go on the field, obviously. But the building up of the pools and the game day and everything, like very obvious that he and his family wanted to be successful. Now it is. Whenever Urban got hired there, we heard about maybe a new Jacksonville city

that was being built for the Jaguars and all these plans for everything that's going in. Obviously, the Urban Meyer era ends. You come in. Is that stuff still all in the works happening? What is and how much say do you want to have or have in like what the future of the Jacksonville Jaguars look like? Yeah, you know, we're in a brand new building right here with the Miller electric center. It was just finished right before training camp. So we got a brand new,

you know, football complex, two beautiful fields. We got the bleachers, 2,500 fans at training camp, you know, practices every day, just a fabulous building right outside, you know, Everbank stadium. And, and you know, and then of course there are the plans for the stadium, right? We, we understand here in Jacksonville, the weather gets nice and hot in September and October. And, you know everbank stadium and and um you know and then of course there are the plans for the stadium right we we understand here in jacksonville the weather gets nice and hot in september and october and you know we want to the next the next really renovation is to is to put a put a roof over the top of this stadium so that's all in the planning phases that's all in the works right now um the rendering the drawings have been out and people have been able to see it and and i do want to be a part of that you know and i think I think I was a part of the Miller Electric Center kind of designing coaches' offices and different things.

And it just gives you a feeling and appreciation of, you know, ownership as we talk about with players. And, you know, it's exciting times right now in Jacksonville. And we've got some great years ahead. Yeah, well, let's relax. You know, Colts still got a team. True. Colts still got a team. True. Colts still got a team in the AFC South, but I will say, it is an honor to watch you do your thing,

and I'm incredibly happy that the Jacksonville Jaguars are in the position that they're at now because of you, and good for Trevor, man. Was Trevor the big reason why you chose the Jags? I know there's a lot of places that wanted him. It was. It was. It really was. When I had an opportunity to look at some of the teams that I could

potentially interview for, Jacksonville was the number one spot because of Trevor Lawrence. Brand new facility, too. Come on. Florida. It was pretty. Florida. We're going to make a dome.

Go tax it. Doug, good for you, man. You deserve it all, pal. Hey, thank you for joining us. I appreciate it. your favorite halloween candy uh snickers those little those little mini snicker bars okay still eating those you're in good shape right now no no i i've i've cut that out of my diet that's why i'm in the shape i'm in now okay florida man have you always been this way what is it every day no man i'm i'm a sweet tooth guy i would eat snickers i love the ice cream you guys have seen the ice cream ice cream stuff it's my it's my it's my

you know it's my kryptonite so um yeah i i gotta push away no more sweets all right we're proud of you we're very thank you it is halloween you know that ice cream one we don't need to tell you ladies and gentlemen head coach yeah yeah yeah got yeah, yeah. Gotcha. Super Bowl champion, Doug Peterson. Thank you, buddy. Hey, coach. That sucks. What's that? He's awesome.

Everything he said. What a normal, good dude. Not every NFL coach can be like a normal dude. That sucks. It's unbelievable. You know? Because Trevor. Yeah.

Got the quarterback, got the head coach. Yeah. Got the owner. Built a brand new facility. We got a head coach Yeah, got the owner, built a brand new facility We got a head coach too Yeah, Shane's a guy Shane's a guy Only team to score more than 20 every single week Shane Steichen with numerous quarterbacks

Yeah, our defense needs to make a stop every once in a while That'd be great, I don't know what the hell happens We're paying everybody over there And one of the guys that comes out last from our tunnel Plays 40% 30% of the snaps. At most. I don't know what the hell's going on. Shaq, still not back all the way yet?

Both of them. He seems to be back. I mean, he's doing this. Are they working him in? Like, don't want to overload him early? I don't know. Zaire Franklin, incredible at football as well. So I don't know if they can't both.

Shaq had that. Didn't he have that crazy nerve situation going on in his foot? Yeah, with his ankle Yeah they fixed it But he still gets Introduced last still He's coming out Getting intro'd last

He's playing And then he's off On third downs He's off on fourth downs It's like This guy was the best Player in football Just a couple years ago

Now can't find a place On him We're giving up 39 points a game Can we Can the guy tackle Somebody somewhere Or no can he not

And then moving on You see what C.J. Stroud Is doing down there In Houston Obviously they lose The Carolina Panthers Which he not? And then moving on, you see what C.J. Stroud's doing down there in Houston. Obviously, they lose to the Carolina Panthers, which is not great. And then Will Levis has four tuds in his first one. Andy Richards was out of four of the five games he played. And then you hear that asshole down there with his visor just saying everything right and has actually won a Super Bowl before.

The AFC South appears to be a very difficult division the next 10 years. This is what's kind of being made, and I think we're a part of it. That's why. Trevor plays banged up, too. He got hit a few times, and he came in and played last Thursday night. He's a guy who will play through some pain. Yeah, he's a tough guy. I understand he's a tough guy.

He's a football player. Everybody who plays football is a tough guy. Is that what you're saying? Well, yeah. Some tougher than others. Yeah. Trevor certainly won, especially as a guy since coming out of eighth grade, he was supposed to be the guy.

And for him to still be relatable, liked, and tough, like that's the – because you can maybe get soft if the whole world is kind of catering to you all the time. And he seems like the complete opposite of that. And he's got a head coach that understands him completely. It's unbelievable. Yeah, those three teams, though, the one thing you're forgetting is that only one team has been promised two Super Bowls before 2030.

And, you know, the Jags, Titans, and Texans, they don't have that. The Colts do. At least they have some expectations here. They have a goal. No one else does. Jim Irsay said those two are still coming home. Guaranteed. That's what you need to do. That's what I mean. That's why you should have hope. You guys are getting two Super Bowls in the next

four years. I wonder if Shane Steichen had any idea what he was signing up for. You know what I mean? I wonder if he had any idea. He had a little idea, I bet. I don't know if he had any clue what he was signing up for. When he got here, he's like, alright, so what's going on? Best player doesn't want to play. Yeah, he wants money. Does this happen normally? No.

Just nicest guy of all time. No, he just, yeah. He's going to be out there though because he doesn't want to get fined. So you're just going to have to separate him from the rest of the team that you're trying to build a culture with. And the guy that we drafted to be your quarterback in the future, like first five games, he's going to be electric. He's going to score a touchdown pretty much every time he has a ball, but he's not going to

be able to play really much because he's going to get hurt. And that's just how it is. Yeah, that stuff, I don't think he had any idea was kind of coming down the pike. But when you talk about Jim Irsay and talking to Jim Irsay, they said he interviewed for what, 85 hours or something like that? He spent a lot of time with Mr. Irsay, so I think he kind of knew what he was getting into. I don't think Mr. Irsay was a part of those 85 hours. You don't? Really? I don't think so. I thought he was leading them be. I don't think Mr. Irsay was a part of those 85 hours. You don't? I don't think so. I thought he was leading them. I think there was

some other people that maybe did a lot of interviews and then when it got to the right time, Mr. Irsay's got a lot going on. You had a few questions. It was part of the Josh McDaniels interview, though. You had me talking to him. Well, he went to McDaniels' house. He went to McDaniels' house. What happened there? Well, allegedly Jim Irsay took a massive dump.

Yeah, a bad pot roast from McDaniels' wife and he took a huge shit and then jerked off in the bathroom, which kind of... I've not heard the... It kind of rubbed him the wrong way, so to speak. That's an update. That's an update to the story. I thought it was just a big dump. Well, I believe it was a massive dump, and then he kind of sprinkled a little something on top, which they didn't love. Hey, thank you to today's sponsor, SeatGeek.

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Every day? Happening every day or able to bit by every day? So I would assume that's an average, where there's like some days where there's like 20,000, and then there's some days probably there's like 200,000. Yesterday, Equinox. Yeah, bingo. A lot of stuff going on yesterday.

70,000 events? That has to be a typo. No way. Concerts? It certainly sounds like it. That's a lot of fucking things. So just like future events that are listed now, not like there's 70,000 total events

every single day when you go on there. Not that there's 70,000 events. There's not 70,000 things you can buy tickets to today. There's 70,000 events. There's about 70,000 things you can buy tickets to today. There's 108,000 cities in the U.S. There's something going on every... Yeah, and there's a lot of poopy, poopy music that still sell tickets to that you

can go see. I guess the comedians and plays. It might be 70,000. Give it a rest, AJ. Why would Gumpy get those tickets? He said the poopy, poopy music. I said Gumpy's getting those tickets. Sorry for broadening my horizon, AJ. Why would Gumpy get those tickets? He said the poopy, poopy music. I said Gumpy's getting those tickets. Sorry for broadening my horizon, AJ.

Hey, that 80s dude right there almost got the ox on the way home from Utah. It was thrown out there. I told you that the plane wouldn't have taken off. We would have been there all night. He wouldn't have played Creed. We flew back. Well, I don't think I did either. We flew back, which I should have.

I apologize. I thought you did. Cowboys Scott, Stapp, Halftime, I apologize for not doing that on a flight back. They had an air show going on at the airport we were coming back to. The fucking Blue Angels were flying in the skies four minutes before we came down for landing. And then as soon

as I get there, I get to meet all of them. It was awesome what a professional outfit and those blue angels planes they're huge have you they are huge one yeah i know i puked multiple times in one of those so you did the ride with them oh yeah you guys pop up a picture from i did the blue angels i did a couple different rides yeah puked in all of them so i met a gentleman named g who's, I think, from Pittsburgh or his family's from Pittsburgh. I know his family.

I do not know him. He is a nephew of a good friend of my dad, Tim. He's the one – oh, I don't know if we zoom in. The guy right next to me that's taller than me might be the biggest Blue Angels guy of all time. He's the leader. He's flying plane one. He's taller than me. Might be the biggest Blue Angels guy of all time. He's the leader. He's flying plane one. He's the guy.

To the left, L2. L2 there. Nope, from the end. Boom. Guy on the far left with the gray teeth. Now he's L2 right there. That's a guy named Greg. He has family in Pittsburgh that I know. He asked me to come over and shake his hand.

Nice. And then immediately got to meet all of them. A lot of college football fans and NFL fans in the Blue Angels. Oh, nice. Love that. I think the fuck Boston Connor got said by three of them. Come on. Yeah.

So, like, I think there's potentially some fans in the Blue Angels. And obviously, I think they have, like, the maintenance folks and then the loading folks. It's like 100 and some people all together. They had some people that are transitioning in a younger class of Blue Angels pilots over there wearing the khaki shorts. And they had a couple thousand people that were watching this air show as they're flying 200 feet above the sky. It's insane. I'm happy they're on our side, AJ.

Legit. Yeah, very impressive. Their whole operation is absolutely crazy and how precise they have to be with everything. I'm sure they talked about a little bit, like the planning they do for every single flight is unbelievable. Yeah, and they did this thing at the end. It was like a firework where, I think it was six of them. So two of them went straight up and then two went this way and then two were flying sideways at like 75 feet above the Guys going out there leaving a trail behind it. So it looks like a fireworks going off

It's like shout out to them and they're all still currently active. It's like a part of dogs. So they're still Gonna do a year or two stint and then they move on Yeah, but I think like the crew that I met was going to a base after this air show. They just got done doing, I think, like 30 shows or something like that. Wow. And then they're going to a base. They are still active right now.

Are those planes? They're Navy. That's Air Force. Navy. Thunderbirds. Air Force Thunderbirds. I did the Thunderbirds, too. I heard that mistake.

Navy's Blue Angels? Yeah. Okay, good. Are those... Happy I didn't say. Good to know. Yeah, I kept my mouth shut. When you came in on Hammer Down the other day,

I held up the Air Force jersey for the Blue Angels, and I got a couple messages that said, hey, Air Force is Thunderbirds. Yeah, but we're talking about America in the sky. Correct. And the Marines have that Harrier. Yeah, the Harrier jet. The Harrier jet that lifts straight up in the air and kind of goes. I got to see one of those on a runway after the Duke game.

I think Duke game day they did a flyover. Smaller plane, but that thing hovers like a helicopter, but it's real tight. It's kind of a little bit shorter. Those Blue Angels planes are fucking long. Are they weapons hot in case while they're doing an air show we get invaded, they got missiles on them? I'd assume that they would be able to destroy something if they had to.

I would assume that. They also got that Fat Albert plane, I guess, that kind of travels alongside of it. Huge bomb. Watch that takeoff. Do you see that vertical takeoff? That's a big thing it does, too, with smoke. It's awesome. That Fat Albert has a...

Yeah, there's videos. You can look it up. Fat Albert, vertical. Yeah, it's really sweet. So, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew, pew. I watched the film. The guy stinks. We, it's really sweet. So, I watched the film. The guy stinks. We're going to trade him. Anyways, they were all very kind.

It was nice meeting you. I'd like to say to all of you. One of them, college football fan, asked me to take my shirt off because I was shirtless earlier. So, because they served in the United States military i obliged it was very cold but then i immediately said this can't become a thing you know this is not you're burnt chrysler exactly i did it for that but i ain't i just want to let people know going forward i i looked very jocked and at one time i was shirtless on tv and i'm gonna leave it that way yeah that's some clown you can't just ask you to do stuff. What is this?

Well, I mean, it will probably... I do do that, though. You know what I mean? That crowd can't take it off. What am I supposed to do? Yeah, dark out still. Am I not going to do that? I thought you were going to take your pants off for a second. That'd be cool. So right before we went live,

I walked up there and there was 35- 40% of them were shirtless going bananas. I guess it was actually 27 degrees. It wasn't 34 degrees. It was freezing or whatever. I go out there and I see all the shirtless folks and I give like a, hey, thank you guys for coming out. Good to see you. That type of thing. Then they started saying

take it off as soon as I got there. It was like 15 minutes before the show started. I'm like what are you talking about? They're like take it off because they're all shirtless. I was like all right i'll take this off i take it off yeah go crazy and i put it on like all right i'm happy i handled that you know what i mean over and over handled that we had our moment we did our thing and what as soon as i started talking they just started chanting it again they're like hey puppet yeah you thought we were done that's not the case how does that end i just say no to them?

You say, hey, listen, I am the marionette, okay? I make you guys dance, okay? You do not make me dance. Shut your mouth. No, but I appreciated their interaction with us. Coach Whittingham should have taken his shirt off. Definitely. I think he should have taken his shirt off.

I don't know if it played into the game, but what I do know is if you're going to go to a Utah Utes football game or maybe one of these air shows, one of the 70,000 events happening around the country, is this worldwide? Might be. Probably Canada for sure too. Mexico maybe. You guys use SeatGeek in Canada?

Yeah, it's huge in Canada actually. Definitely 70,000. Definitely 70,000 events every single day. Each ticket is rated on a scale of 1 to 10, so look for the green dots. That means they're good tickets at a good price. Green means good. Red means bad.

This means, hey, you can probably get this ticket somewhere else or a better ticket at a better price somewhere else. They're looking out for you. And for football season, since it's here, almost halfway done. Team. Whoa. Crazy. Team.

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Does not matter if you're a new customer or a repeat customer. It's not a bad time to get some gifts, too. You know, Halloween is a nice little indicator that Thanksgiving's coming, which is a nice indicator that the holiday season is coming, which means people are giving fucking gifts to everybody. Yep. Tickets are a good gift because you're alive, but are you living? Go experience something alive.

You live with our friends at SeatGeek. Shout out to SeatGeek, dude. Love you, SeatGeek. And right here it says restrictions apply. What are those, AJ? Is there any small writing in there that tells you exactly what the restrictions might be? Probably if a ticket's less than $30. You can't just get it for free. Yeah,

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What's up, Tone Diggs? There is a breaking news trade. We have breaking news. The 49ers have disagre agreed to acquire Chase Young from the Washington Commanders. That's via Jay Glazer, who's pretty tight with Shanahan and John Lynch and team at the Niners. Congrats to them picking up another weapon for that defense in that defensive line. They're on a three-game skid, okay? No Trent Williams, no Deebo Samuel.

Their offenses certainly look different. Joey Burrow went in and sliced and diced that Niners defense. So much so that we're celebrating that Joe Burrow and the Bengals are back. Now, John Lynch says, you think we're spending money all over this roster to have a three-game slid and sit in

fourth or fifth in the NFC? Absolutely not. Let's go get better. They bring in Chase Young. Nice rotation. Keep him fresh. He's not going to be expected to play every single down. This is good news for the former what overall number pick?

Two. Second overall pick, AJ. This is good for the Niners. Great for Chase, too. And the commander seemingly punting this season. We'll see you next year. Yeah, I instantly, whenever I see guys like this get traded, I think of the player. I'm like, man, this guy

goes from a team the Commanders aren't. Honestly, they're a pretty good, solid football team, though. They're not terrible by any means, but to go to San Francisco for a guy like Chase, it's going to, I would imagine that change of scenery is going to be awesome for him. Getting out there in that culture and what they normally do. Obviously, as of late, they haven't played like they normally have, of scenery is going to be awesome for him. Getting out there in that culture and what they normally do. Obviously, as of late, they haven't played like

they normally have, but they're going to be awesome. The compensation there is a third rounder. I believe Chase's contract is up, just like Sweat's contract was up whenever he got traded to Chicago earlier today. The Bears were utilizing this trade as a future free agency signing. Basically, they have $110 million

going into next season in salary cap space. They'll be able to sign Sweat to a long-term deal. He's going to be a part of the build back is how they viewed it. Now here with the Niners, with Chase Young, a third-round pick going the other way. I wonder what the deal looks like. And if it is, just let's see how you are here for the rest of the season. They also picked up Randy Gregory when the Broncos let him go.

So now they have – Was that last week? A couple weeks ago. Two. So now they have Bosa, they have Randy Gregory, Cleland Farrell who came over from the Raiders who was a high pick, I think is their other starter. So I think Chase is, I think, going to be the starter opposite of Bosa

if I had to take a guess. So Bosa, once he gets going, which we all assume is going to happen. A couple of overall picks. All of a sudden now, all of a sudden now, that deep Fred Warner, Hufanga. Eric Armstead. All of a sudden it's back to being the team that's feared, right, D-Buck? It should be. And I said it yesterday, I think.

Like that was my biggest concern with this team. Obviously Brock Purdy turned the ball over, but defensively they just haven't been, you know, that same scary unit that we're accustomed to seeing. The Vikings did their thing on them, and now the Bengals. So you start with defense, it always starts in the trenches. So you remember the Eagles last year with that front that they had with guys just rotating in and out, and now the Niners pretty much recreating that.

How about if you have more talent that can pass rush, A.J., you can get one-on-ones? And once you get one-on-ones, then he can sit back and coverage a little bit. It kind of all helps. Adding depth at the D-line and that pass rusher, always going to make your team better. Now, obviously, Chase is going to have to play well, but this is a move that you know

is going to immediately make your team better, seemingly. Yeah, and just think of this. I mean, Bosa on one edge, Chase Young on the other. All the other talent they have, they can move them around. Like, you could have the craziest third down package. Like, if you want to stand them up, just line up Chase Young and Bosa to stand in the A-gap like they're mugged linebackers or something. That might cause a few issues for people.

A little double barrel with the two boys out there. Go ahead, Conman. Do you think on Sunday Ron Rivera is going to be like, where are Sweat and Chase Young today? They haven't played well at all. And then someone has to tell them, like, hey, they're not on the team anymore, actually. What?

When? Who? Is somebody going to tell me? Wait, Chase Young got traded? Coach Rivera's watching these things happen, by the way, because this was being talked about. Like, look for at least one of the studs on the Commander's D-line to get traded. And Ron Rivera's like, we just want to play pretty good against the Eagles.

I don't know if we should need to do that. And it's like, sweat, gone. Chase Young, gone. And Ron Rivera's, are we trying to win games? Am I getting traded too? How does this whole thing go? This is a transition era. This is a transition time. This is a transition time.

New ownership. We all kind of expected it. Good for Chase getting dropped in to a Super Bowl contender all of a sudden. Joining us now is a man who knows everything that needs to be known around the college football universe. That's not easy. 130-some teams. Got to know everything, though, Authority, because people are going to ask.

Whenever there's little whisperings or rumblings happening at the American conference, what is it? Who knows? Pete Thamel. Whenever there's a little bit of rumblings happening at a head coaching story, is this person going to move on? Who knows? Pete Thamel. Every single Saturday, there's a quarterback that might be in, might be out. Very, very important piece to whether or not this team's going to be successful.

Who knows? Pete Thamel. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the authority, Pete Thamel. Howdy, baby, Peter. Yeah, Peter. Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you, gentlemen.

You lit my phone up today, with uh with with your halloween uh with your halloween bit it was uh it was fantastic uh could not have been uh could not have been better uh better done i was secretly hoping it would be boston connor because our hair is so similar but maybe we just have too much in common i'll tell you what pete whenever i heard about what was about to happen and obviously ty was supposed to be the hulkster but having two peets on one show is definitely better than having no peets on one show or one peet on a show and let's just dive right in pete has a question for you pete yeah pete so i understand um that we we have a bit of breaking news in the whole uh connor stallions vis-a-vis Michigan, Jim Harbaugh situation. Just curious, are we going to find a smoking gun here, Pete? I know we have the Central Michigan sideline photo

with a guy who kind of looks like Connor Stallions, if we're being honest. What is the new information that you're hearing? Is the Big Ten going to continue to kind of drag this thing along? I also hear that potentially Jim Harbaugh is signing an extension maybe today, or that's kind of in the process of getting done. So what are you hearing right now, Pete, and what kind of updates do we have in the whole kind of Michigan hullabaloo? Great question, Pete uh i appreciate it um i think uh we'll we'll go from the micro to the macro uh ty uh in in the mic gobsmacked us with some information and the micro today we have a new uh entry into where in the world is connor stallions uh central michigan university is

investigating whether or not connor stallions was on their sideline in the coach's box wearing coaching gear for at night, standing kind of in the back behind the O-line coach, near a strength coach, near a strength coach right there. So it doesn't take a lot of sleuthing to find out there's a lot of overlay between the Central Michigan staff and the current Michigan staff that Stallions is suspended from. So this is just sort of another bizarre entry and chapter into a wonderful dossier of places and things where Connor Stallions has popped up. It would also speak to some brazenness, too, that, you know, to go do that and actually, like, dress up for Halloween as a Central Michigan coach, essentially, is just, it is going to make the 30 for 30 better, as a few folks have pointed out. So Central Michigan became aware of this yesterday.

You're only allowed, and I'll go right in the weeds for you here, Pat. Love it. You're only allowed 50 coaches under NCAA rules in your box. So there's a white designated coaching box between the 20. So for example example when you do your show you have to go like either on one of the sidelines or on the edge right you're not allowed within that certain place we're not allowed in the box yes so stallions has passed if you call that graphic back up um i'm not sure if one of them is quite zoomed in enough yet on one of these his pass is vb which is for visitors bench So he was essentially given like coaching access, which is hard to get. There isn't a lot of it.

And that has to be signed off by the coach and the athletic director for whoever is going to do that. So that's essentially your EQ guys, your trainers, obviously your assistant coaches, personnel folks. It's the inner circle of a program, you know, designated for coaching the game. So it will be very interesting to see how Central Michigan ends up playing this and explaining this. That's him though, right? I mean, the fact that they can't tell you it's not him at this point sure looks like him, you know? Oh, shit, that's big news. That is him. There's a lot of side by side right and they've had a day they've had a day to shake this out and it you know this isn't like you know a new york

city subway where you're trying to identify strangers here like these are you know these are these should be the tightest people within the circle of your program and uh you know they have a game tonight so it'd be interesting to see uh on on espn too i believe pat maybe you um yeah a little little uh little cross promotion there for you um so it'd be interesting to see uh on on espn too i believe pat maybe you um yeah a little little uh little cross promotion there for you um so it'd be interesting to see if anything does emerge out of uh out of their tuesday maxion game tonight spider-man has a question for you pete yeah go ahead spider-man yeah pete first of all it's an honor to join you two on this uh on the screen make this a threesome but uh when we're talking about some of the other coaches in the NCAA, specifically Dabo Sweeney,

who just undressed somebody for basically saying, hey, you're getting paid $11 million to suck. I could do that. Is there any chance that we might see Dabo leave? Is there going to be kind of a new era in Clemson, or is Dabo safe and the Clemson Tigers are just going through a little bit of a rough patch with their fans and their team? I would say Dabo's very safe.

I mean, he's making $11.5 million a year. Sorry, Pete, did you want to go first? No, no, no. I was going to say, you know, not really a threesome, more of a three-peat, but go ahead, Pete. Take it away. I get it, yeah. Peter Parker. but uh oh go ahead pete take it away peter parker ah you see we'll save the double entendres for uh ty um oh hi uh i i mean dabbo's going through a slump and you know you could think of this a

little bit now he's won two national titles right that the list of coaches who've won two national titles that are actively coaching in college football is very, very short. I think Pete could write them out right now on his list and hold them up fairly quickly. So nobody is through with Dabo Sweeney. I do think we're at an inflection point for some potential change at Clemson. Obviously, it's been long discussed Dabo's hesitancy to enter the transfer portal. I believe they've taken two backup quarterbacks in it since then. Obviously, he has been slow to embrace NIL, I think might be the fairest way to say that. So there are some modernizations that may have happened with the Clemson program. And I think we'll also, you know, they'll also take a long, hard look at that staff. Where he is now, a decade plus into Clemson, is a place where a lot of the people who've risen up on that staff have come up through his system.

So the question is, are there more outside voices needed or is there more outside juice needed? Do you need to change and evolve more? You know, the previous staffs were double downs on what he'd done. And quite frankly, he'd done it better than anybody else. So I really think that four losses, they went up like a three-year stretch from, I believe, 18 to 20 without losing four games. So it will be interesting to see how Dabo evolves from this

because I think we're at an inflection point for evolution. I didn't hear about 30 to 35 seconds of your answer because I lost my ears. They fell out of my ass and my whale there. But what it sounds like is Dabo's going to be able to do whatever he wants down there. He seems, though, to be at a point where I think a lot of these other coaches do. Like, we talked to Mack Brown whenever he ended his time at Texas, and he said a win was just a relief, then a loss was like devastating and that's because the expectations of their fan base got so damn high and then you hear about some of these other coaches that had a lot of success at college it's like winning a game in September or October means absolutely nothing there isn't even a happiness anymore it's just like you're expected to go to

the playoff and do this Dabo's experiencing that now in the post a lot of success era that he had. This is now what it is and their fans are like I don't want to say bored with it but hey this season doesn't start till the playoffs or this season doesn't start till the ACC championship. I think that happens in college football more than any other sport. I personally just from learning about it over the last couple years seems to be very real. Now the three-peat was beautiful. I'd like to go back to the jim harbaugh situation though because there's now a contract extension that is being fast passed allegedly for jim harbaugh with michigan and this is before michigan knows really

what all is about to be found out uh through this entire investigation or does harbaugh know what's coming down the pipe like why is this extension happening so quickly so publicly and what does this mean about Harbaugh going forward no matter what the punishment is I would say this Pat it will be interesting to see I've seen sort of the smoke about that and you know I was cautioned the other night to not report that the contract offer had been rescinded it did seem logical that there was be a bit of a pause. I will say this. If you go back to last year when he had his flirtation with the Broncos and then the year before on signing day, he interviewed with the Vikings. There's been some flirtations. There's a new president at Michigan, a gentleman by the name

of Santa Ono. And Santa Ono basically took over the contract talks last year in a very public way that you rarely see a president do that. And I think he realizes that Jim Harbaugh is an asset to the University of Michigan in a significant way. Look, Bill Self got a lifetime contract while they were under NC investigation from the federal basketball scandal. So if there is a contract given to Jim Harbaugh in the upcoming weeks, to me, it would really be one of the ultimate middle fingers to the enforcement folks in Indianapolis, basically saying what the NCAA says and rules doesn't matter. The University of Michigan is just going to plow on and doesn't really care about your multiple investigations.

That's crazy to think about, honestly, because we have no idea what the punishment is going to be, right? We have no clue. That's not coming until after this season, right? I mean, the only thing you can ever safely say about NCAA punishment, Pat, is that it will be slow. And it's usually a safe guess to say the NCAA enforcement will be ineffective because they have been for decades. But slow is like 100%. If you can bet on one of our gambling partners about an NCAA investigation going slowly, you would have made a lot of money. You'd have multiple beach houses at this point if you've done that the last three decades. All we know is this won't be this won't be resolved quickly. The Big Ten does not appear motivated at this juncture to do anything.

They have the autonomy, as we reported last week, to do something. They have a new commissioner, Tony Petitti. They they seem more apt to let a process play out as opposed to it was not. They seem more apt to let a process play out as opposed to do anything right now. That would obviously undercut their own probably best chance to win a national title for the league in quite a long time. We also haven't really heard from Michigan on this yet. So I think before the Big Ten is going to do anything, like they would at least have to hear Michigan's side.

But they they're not investigating it necessarily. And there there is a lot of evidence that has clearly emerged. But that wouldn't be considered a fact set in order to make a decision on on Michigan in this case. I wish you would answer that and said, how's your family? And then we would know it was Petitti. Last question for me before AJ and the boys have some more. So I think, I mean, with every day that's passing, we're getting more evidence. And obviously, I think cameras are being involved now.

There's surveillance cameras. Like, how much more evidence are you expecting us to be able to see as this season continues? And will the more the evidence kind of builds, will that expedite a process or a decision made by anybody so that we can either put this to bed or let us know what it is throughout this season? Ron, this Michigan team is very, very, very good. Yes, I completely agree. There's a lot of people who think Michigan is the best team in the country, and they have a strong argument for it. They've been unbelievable so far this year.

I'm really anxious to see them in two weeks play at Penn State. So in terms of your expedited question, Pat, the flat answer is no. This will not get expedited. It just won't. There's no mechanism for it. And the baseline fact there is that Michigan, with the NCAA case, will get 90 days to respond. So say that the NCAA had their case done, which they will not have done anytime soon, and it was tomorrow, that would mean it would be like February 1st before Michigan even had to respond to start the whole back and forth of the process. So the NCAA process will not impact this season unless they do something drastically against their own bylaws. It would be that would be shocking to me as someone who's covered way

too many of these cases for the last 20 years. So will there will there be more evidence? Seemingly, we're probably 10 days since Connor Stallion's name emerged publicly, maybe a little bit, little bit longer than that. And boy, has there been a lot of evidence that has seemingly emerged that fit the central allegation that he's the centerpiece of this allegedly illegal signal stealing ring. So I think the next thing evidence-wise, the next threshold evidence-wise will be, A, what was Jim Harbaugh's involvement, if there was any involvementbaugh's involvement, if there was any involvement. That's obviously going to be a huge talking point factor, center point of the investigation. And the second one is who funded it.

There has not been a ton of clarity yet funding-wise other than some Internet sleuths having some fun with some Venmos. So I think those two factors are going to be central to what the NCAA punishment ends up being. If there is a punishment. Go ahead, AJ. I'm excited to watch that. Hey, this is a big deal. It's a big deal, Pete. You're doing great on the coverage.

Come on, Pete. Congrats. Pulitzer Pete, potentially. Go ahead, AJ. Pete, do you have any idea how many people the NCAA has talked to already about this and how many they plan on maybe interviewing? Because I would imagine you could ask many assistants around the country maybe some former players former coaches and do they have to speak to the ncaa say they want to talk to some central

michigan coaches because they say nah we're good we don't want to talk so great question aj and i think that the ncaa has gone to ann arbor in part because they you know they want to show that this is a priority and this is a big deal n NCAA enforcement has been through a half decade of just perpetual inertia. I won't bore you with the alphabet soup of IARP, but they completely fumbled the federal basketball investigation. And so there's a sense out of Indianapolis that they don't want enforcement to just be viewed as completely incompetent. So they have been up there. But

your question specifically, AJ, is a good one about who have they talked to? Do coaches have to talk to them? So say, hypothetically, they're going to want to talk to Jim Harbaugh at some point. They would have to set up an interview with Jim Harbaugh. They would have to go see his lawyers. They would have to give times and dates. They just can't show up and knock on the door and say, hey, we need to talk to you at four. So I think the central figures, the high profile figures, the figures that can afford these fancy, expensive lawyers that are going to come into play in this, they have not yet spoken to them. Now, for your question, like if they wanted to talk to the Central Michigan, you know, random fill in the blank assistant coach, he is compelled because he is under the purview of the NCAA to talk to them.

Now, he can lawyer up and do all those types of things, but you are not, you know, but if it was just, if he hired some guy and paid him 50 bucks to, you know, go tape a random Indiana game, that guy would not be compelled because he's not under NCAA purview. So those are, I guess, the lines of delineation there. Perpetual inertia, honestly, this entire thing. And before we let you go, there's one other big story, especially for this particular office. Ty has a let you go, there's one other big story, especially for this particular office.

Ty has a question for you. It's Pete Thamel. Yeah, Pete, you reported that, you know, Brian Ferentz, his letter came out that essentially said, you know, hey, Beth Goetz, the interim AD at Iowa, basically came in. And, you know, I'm paraphrasing here, but she basically said, like, hey, guess what, Brian? Your daddy can't save you anymore.

Get the fuck out of here at the end of the season. Again, paraphrasing. I would not say that, by the way, Ty. Just want to be clear about that. No, yeah, yeah. You're paraphrasing. No, no, Ty. This is Ty.

Not exactly what I was saying. But with that being the case, do you think that there's any chance that Kirk Ferentz will step down at the end of this season? I know Iowa fans are a little torn about that. They've still got a bitter taste in their mouth with the whole Brian Ferentz situation. But who might Iowa be targeting for that offensive coordinator position? And also, do you think there is a chance that Kirk Ferentz will step down as well at the end of the season? Ferenc will step down as well at the end of the season. You know, my initial hunch and the initial indicators out of Iowa are there's no sign that Kirk Ferenc is nearing the end there.

So obviously a very tricky, very thorny position for Beth Getz, the new athletic director, to be in. For all of Iowa's offensive ineptitude, I think we need to remember one thing, Pete. They are way outkicking the coverage of what Iowa football should be from a local talent standpoint, from what their record has been historically. And they've had some great coaches. They've had great runs there. But taking Kirk Ferris for granted, I think, institutionally,

would be a huge mistake. Oh, no, yeah. I'm not saying that in any way, shape, or form, Pete. I mean, outkicking the coverage talent-wise, I mean, I think Iowa's in the top five in terms of sending guys to the NFL. I think you might be a little off-base there. Well, I mean local recruiting talent. Absolutely. Not a lot of five-stars over at Iowa City East.

No, definitely not. City West. City West. But I think one thing that Iowa fans, to that point, are a little sick and tired of is there are some good quarterbacks in the state. And instead, Kirk and all the boys have decided to recruit guys from California. And as we know in Iowa, if you're a great quarterback in California and you're coming to play football in Iowa, you're probably not worth a shit. But, you know, that's neither here nor there. I mean, has there been any discussions of who the new offensive coordinator may be? I think it's early for that. I did see some lists that kind of made me chuckle because I don't think Kirk Ferentz is going to turn into Art Bryles' tempo and do anything radically different.

I think they will stay within the paradigms of what's allowed them to win, which is a pro style that's going to have them play great defense and have opportunistic special teams, right? So I struggled to see Iowa's having a complete shift like Wisconsin really has, you know, from an identity standpoint, I really feel like I was going to look like a more, I think the aim will be to be a more efficient version of Iowa next year. I hope so

because these Iowa Hawkeye fans have been through enough. They like football. And on the offensive side, that ain't football. That ain't football. It's tough to watch, but that punter, Torrey Taylor, he's a dog. Kirk Ferentz found it at defense. They. That ain't football. It's tough to watch, but that punter, Torrey Taylor, he's a dog. Oh. Kirk Ferentz found it.

That defense, they're a bunch of dogs. Littered with dogs. That returner? Yeah, Cooper DeGene. Dog. Absolute dog. What, he's going to be? He's going to be a first-round pick, yeah.

Oh, I thought, no talent in Iowa. He is from Iowa. I believe he's from O-A-B-C-I-G is the high school he went to. Which stands for? I have no idea, but I know, I believe he won two state championships in high school. He was a quarterback. Pretty good little player. Yeah, he's a good player.

Did he wrestle? They all wrestled. Oh, absolutely. If you're from Iowa, there's a good chance you're wrestling, but he's a great athlete. Pete, were you a wrestler? No, no, no. I was not a wrestler, Pat. No, I mean, if you can shoot a basketball, you play basketball.

Pete, we appreciate you, buddy. You've been a fantastic addition to our show today. You've been here for all three hours. I don't know if you know that. It's been awesome. Hadn't it, D-Buck? Absolutely. The authority.

It's been amazing. Authority. It's a big time for college football. Tonight, go ahead and do your thing. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete Thamel. Yeah, Pete! Happy Halloween, Pete. All right, so we've got 58 minutes left in this trade deadline.

Yep. We got to figure out what the plan is, okay? Are we riding with these next 58 minutes just to see what could potentially happen? Or are we at the stage where we kind of understand the way this trade deadline went? A lot of talk. The Vikings going to get a quarterback. They did get a quarterback. Okay, these D linemen from Washington, they're going to get moved. They did. They did. They lot of talk. The Vikings going to get a quarterback. They did get a quarterback. Okay, these D linemen from Washington

Commanders, they're going to get moved. They did. They did. Get moved. There's been a couple others that have kind of taken off that we were kind of surprised by. But in the end, no weapons really, right? No wide receivers going to teams and potential. Go ahead. The Lions just got a wide receiver.

Ladies and gentlemen, trade deadline is in 57 minutes. And Donovan Peoples-Jones has been traded away from the Cleveland Browns to the Detroit Lions. Ben Johnson, Dan Campbell, and the boys got another weapon. I wonder what this means for Cleveland Browns and why this took place. Foxy, you're pumped for another weapon up there for Jared Goff? Yeah, fired up.

More weapons, the better. We talk about it all the time. This guy's going to be fast. He's going to be downfield. I love it. From Cleveland to Detroit. Michigan guy, he's good. Ain't that right, AJ? That's good news. Yeah, it's good news. Great news.

Foxy's supposed to be Kid Rock. Is that right? I was embarrassed for him as well. What do you mean? You don't look like Kid Rock. I don't have my glasses on right now. I couldn't really see the screen with my glasses on. It wasn't the glasses. What was it then? It was the hair.

It was just the choices. Everything. Facial hair. Detroit sweater. Blonde hair. That's Kid Rock. You know what the issue was? You know what the issue was?

This is from his costume he wore the other night at 10 Diggs' back. He mailed it in. He got one costume. Oh, so that ruined it for you guys. Yeah, that was what it was. You've seen the wig before, Fox. Yeah, it's not the first time we've seen this little concoction you put together. And the last time you were dressed exactly like this, you said,

I'm Scooby-Doo human guy. Shaggy. There it is. The greatest hippie of all time. Yeah, he looked just like that. You should have just said, that's who you are. You should have just said, yeah, I'm doing the same thing I did Saturday. Yeah, no, I couldn't do that.

Detroit's too hot. Lions win. Red Wings win. And now we're making trades. I mean, this is one of the greatest years for Detroit in quite some time. So I had to be Kid Rock. Is this abnormal? Obviously, you guys made the trade for Jared Goff, which is a huge trade in history.

But adding to the team midseason, is this new for the Detroit Lions? Yeah, because if you guys remember last year, we traded away TJ Hawkinson. I was really upset about that one. And we went from one and six to going nine and eight. So that was awesome. So yeah, being buyers at the trade deadline is very, very new for the Detroit Lions. We have some news here about the trades out of Washington. Ownership had a strong hand in the decision to move on from Sweat and from Chase Young says Diana Rossini. Many in the building wanted to keep them because they believe in this team, but in the end

it's about the future for the Commanders. A lot of people in that building were saying some things and the ownership was like, you know why I own this team now? Because this place sucks. So I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear what you think. Let's go ahead and think about the future. Now with that being said, great players.

The defensive line is like the thing about the Commanders. So this is a full punt into the next season. In over the last 24 hours, Josh Harris has traded James Harden, Montez Sweat, and Chase Young. Wow. Because he owns, obviously. So this guy's like, you know what? I'm fucking rebuilding. That's what we need to do. Let's like, you know what? I'm fucking rebuilding.

That's what we need to do. Let's go ahead and do that. I think the commander's future is bright, potentially, if they find the right guys. But right now, it's very obvious that that's all they're thinking about, D-Bud. It sucks if you're in that building. Because everybody's kind of looking over their shoulders at this point. And they're letting it be known out front. Like, hey, everybody is probably going to be moved on from outside of some core pieces.

But that's some big moves. Yeah, congratulations to the Commanders thinking about the future. Moving on. Now, it's not great for Sam Howell. It's not great for Ron Rivera, who might not even know. You've already paid all of Chase, though, this year, right? I saw the thing where the Niners only had to pay him like $570,000 for the rest of this year. Yep.

Yep. What a deal for the Niners. They declined his fifth-year option, too, right? Yeah. Chase Young will cost the 49ers $561,000 this year. Wow. Jesus. Yeah, I would take that if I was the team.

Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Congrats to the Niners getting better and being, you know, very, very aggressive. Joining us now is a man who, you know, he knows. Always. I don't know what he's dressed up as, but I hope it's something sweet for this glorious Halloween and trade deadline day.

From Bleacher Report, ladies and gentlemen, the Schultz Report, Jordan Schultz. Wow, Jordan! Jordan, how's trade deadline day been for you? I see you've been active on the internet. That means you know stuff, huh? You know a lot of stuff? It's been a very's trade deadline day been for you? I see you've been active on the internet. That means you know stuff, huh? You know a lot of stuff? It's been a very good trade deadline.

However, I do have a Wednesday Addams Father costume. I'm about to rock in the next hour or two here. And I got to say, I look good, but you guys look phenomenal. What a performance by the McAfee crew today. You look good. You do look good, Joltz. You're right. I mean, Spider-Man really brought it today. Hey, you look good. You do look good, Schultz. You're right. I mean, Spider-Man really brought it today. Edward Scissorhands did his thing.

Pete Thamel was fantastic. Matt Canada, just Matt Canada, was obviously awesome. And dope boy, Darius J. Butler crushed it today. But it's not about us today. It's about insiders today. There's 53 minutes left before trade deadline. Obviously, Donovan Peoples-Jones just got traded to the Lions. None of us had him on the trade block or the Lions potentially in the running for another weapon this year, although we love it. We love to see it out of Detroit.

Is there anything else brewing that we need to keep an eye on? We thought maybe some bigger weapons, bigger names potentially on the move. Keep that phone around. Look at Jalen Johnson as the last domino really to fall. He's a terrific young corner, 24 years old. PFF has him graded out as the third best cover guy in the league right now, 84.4 grade.

And he wants out. And I can tell you that he has been very frustrated with the Bears not giving him that long-term extension. I think he can command upwards of $15, $17, $18 million a year, potentially, considering his age and the fact that, listen, Chicago, I'm not really sure why they won't pay him. They didn't pay last year Roquan Smith. Now they're in this position where it appears they don't want to pay Jalen Johnson.

And I can tell you that he wants out. He requested a trade late last night, but that's really been brewing over the last couple of weeks as they failed to get anywhere in terms of negotiations in regard to an extension. So I would look at Jalen Johnson. I can tell you there's four teams in the mix for him that I've been told. Pittsburgh, Buffalo, San Francisco, which now seems less likely, and potentially the Eagles. So, you know, he has a huge market. It really just comes down to compensation because Chicago, for the right price, would absolutely move him. So them bringing in Sweat means that they're playing him for the future?

If they were to trade Jalen, that would be a weird kind of contradictory thing? It is odd. It is odd. And I think if they had their druthers, they would like to keep Jalen Johnson. But considering he wants to become one of the higher-paid cornerbacks, I mean, if you get to $15 million, then you're in that top-10 range for corners. I think he could command more, $16, $17-plus, and then you're really talking big dollars. And considering his age and the fact that he really hasn't gotten paid anything yet, it's very clear to me that he wants out and that Chicago is willing to acquiesce, again, with the right price.

But it's interesting that they didn't pay Roquan. Now they bring in Montez. It looks like they don't want to pay Jalen Johnson. You run the risk then of having him walk in free agency, which is the ultimate loss if you're the Bears. They got 50 minutes to get a deal done if that's going to be the case, which is wild. Go ahead, Edward Scissorhands. Giorno, is there anyone out there that really really wants to get traded

but their team is standing put and saying no we're keeping you you're sticking around here jaylen would certainly be the top of that list um davante i think davante adams possibly i think ezekiel elliott is another one that would be open adori jackson uh in new york potentially but when you're talking about for example Adoree you know he has real money on that deal I think it's over five million so with someone like that there is interest league-wide of course in a corner that can that can cover guys ones and twos and that can run but at the same time it's it comes down to money and and you know I mentioned Ezekiel Elliott I think he would certainly be open to leaving New England but it comes down to money. And, you know, I mentioned Ezekiel Elliott. I think he would certainly be open to leaving New England.

But it comes down to money and whether or not another team is willing to take out some of that salary. I mean, Hunter Renfro is another guy. He would love to move on. He has had the worst possible relationship with Josh McDaniels. They have no synergy whatsoever, no chemistry. But he has a significant contract. And unless he or the Raiders were willing to restructure, he's not going to be moved.

So you floated that he did approach them, what, a couple, like a month ago about potentially moving on? I don't think I had heard that. And then Shefty said there's no chance in hell they move on from him. Go ahead. No. You talking about Adams? Yeah.

Yeah, so Adams did not formally request a trade, but what he did was earlier this month in October, he went to the Raiders with his camp and flat out said, you know, can we potentially, or would it make sense for us to explore new ground? Would it make sense for us to, you know, mutually part ways? And the Raiders said, absolutely not, emphatically no. And so Adams absolutely right when he said there's not going to be a deal.

There is a ton of interest, obviously, in Devontae Adams. He's very frustrated. He came to the Raiders to play with his college teammate from Fresno State, Derek Carr. That was his guy. Now it's Jimmy Garoppolo. It's been an unmitigated disaster. The team can't win. And last night, he had statistically the worst game of his career in terms of reception percentage.

He had one catch, 11 yards, seven targets. He clearly has no synergy at all with Jimmy Garoppolo. But he did not formally request a trade, but he went to the Raiders, it's my understanding, and said, would it make sense for us both to mutually part-raise? And Las Vegas said no way. Yeah, they're going to stick with him. Is the future over there?

I mean, Schultz, what are you hearing? Is McDaniels good over there? Not bright. Yeah, okay. It's not bright. And I think when you talk about hot seats, you know, Josh, Ron Rivera, those names come to mind. And the Raiders have spent significant money.

Obviously, they've invested in Max Crosby, who's been tremendous. But you saw them last night. I mean, it's just there's just no flow. And I'm not going to put all of that on Garoppolo. I'm not going to put all of it on McDaniels. But you ask enough folks around the league and they'll tell you that that's one of the more dysfunctional teams right now. I mean, they have no it just seems like week to week. The Raiders are completely up and down, mostly down.

And, you know, Garoppolo had something like 100 yards passing last night. It's just a disaster. It's unfortunate because there is talent on that team, but there's just no direction. That is a rudderless team. I like a nice rudderless description because it does feel that way as we watch them play. I'm also pumped Josh McDaniels turned his plane around

when he was supposed to be the Indianapolis Colts head coach. But with that being said, we've already fired the coach that took his place. That was the truth. Yeah, so I don't know if we need to care anymore. But nonetheless, last question here for you from Spider-Man. Yeah, Schultz, when you look at the situation that the Vikings were just going through and now they have Dobbs, but they did have Kirk, and there's a lot of teams who are allegedly looking in to Kirk.

In your opinion, do you think that the Vikings would have moved Kirk if he didn't get hurt? And do you also think that some of these teams out there are pretty bummed that Kirk Cousins tore his Achilles? And what teams do you know are interested? Great question from a great guy, Spider-Man. Fantastic. One of my all-time favorites.

Hell yeah. The real question is, who's the best Spider-Man? Is it Tobey Maguire or the other guy from Social Network? It ain't Garfield, so it's Tobey. It's not Tobey. Who's the upside-down kiss, suck face? That is Tobey Maguire. Yeah, that's mine.

Tom Holland's the best. Yeah, Tom Holland's a very good call. I don't think I've seen him, but I bet he's crazy. He's fantastic. A little British. Yeah, he's in that TV show. Before I answer this last question, I just want to say, you looked very smelt on national television the other night.

Thank you. I appreciate that. Very impressive. Thank you, Schultz. It was a morning. Very impressive. Yeah, it was very early. Okay, so when it comes to Minnesota,

I thought they would be sellers three weeks ago. Then they rattled off three in a row. They beat San Francisco. Kirk's playing really well. I mean, say what you want, but he was playing really, really well. And then you had the notion that you were going to get back Justin Jefferson at some point. I never believed that Minnesota was going to trade Kirk Cousins, mainly because he has that no trade clause. It would never benefit Kirk Cousins to go to another team, learn a new playbook, and then hit free agency.

Plus, I think his synergy with Kevin O'Connell has always been very good. But I think it will, without question, I don't want to say crater, but it will hurt his, it will certainly hurt his free agency market going into March and April with an Achilles. So I would say that the chances of Kirk getting dealt were very, very slim, especially after they rattled off three in a row. But the real thing for me is they went from potentially being sellers to then buyers, and then now they ultimately go out and get Josh Jobs. Obviously, Jaron Hall's there.

They have Nick Mullens coming off IR. But it's a clear signal to me they're not going to trade Daniel Hunter. Obviously, there's been interest in Jordan Hicks, maybe a Harrison Smith or a KJ Osborne. I would be surprised if any of those guys were moving in the next 45 minutes. And I think clearly Minnesota is going out and get Josh Jobs. They believe that they can be competitive in the NFC North. Hell yeah, love that out of the Vikings. We will have head coach of the Vikings, Kevin O'Connell,

join us on Thursday, 1.30 Eastern. Okay. Very, very good coach. Yeah, I'd say, Schultz. I'd say. The guy's got it figured out right now. Going to have a new quarterback potentially this weekend or next weekend. I think it's going to be Jaron Hall this week, I believe.

Okay, and then the rocket scientist learns it. But if I'm not mistaken, Kevin O'Connell did not rule out Dobbs playing this weekend, though, right? There you go. You tell me. I didn't know what he said. No, I'm just assuming it's going to be Jaron Hall. Josh Jobs, he had five days to learn to play, but that's pretty tough. But he did learn to click in Arizona.

Fucking rocket scientist. He's a rocket scientist, Schultz. I mean, that's literally what he is. Incredibly intelligent. Anyways, just like you, we appreciate you. Enjoy this final 44 minutes of the trade deadline. Thank you for making time. My pleasure, Jens.

Have a good day. Have a Schultz report, please. Yeah, let's go, team. AJ? Zooming on back in. Let's tighten up. AJ. Let's tighten up.

AJ saw it. He goes, nope, nope. Nope, nope, nope. He starts giggling. It's tough whenever we talk to him. Why? Because we're not sure about every single thing he says. Yeah, I agree.

I love him. I've known him a long time. Great man. As he's been climbing the insider game, we've kind of followed along. We've been big fans of that. Great guy. But he's walked us into some situations. So I think we'll just kind of be punished by that forever.

But he broke a couple things today. Yeah. Schultz, he broke a couple things today. Jake Lazor got his name back in the game. Broke some stories today. Jay saves it for big-time stories only. Ian Rappaport broke some news today. Diana Rossini broke some news today.

Seems like the insiders are really doing their thing. Absolutely. Not all of them, but some of them, for sure. Damn near all of them. Damn near. Damn near all of them. Yep. Schultz, he is my favorite just because he can come on and tell us that Jerry Rice

is signing with the Niners and I'd still believe it. And that's why he's so much fun. Really, when we look at the Schultz timeline, it all went downhill when OBJ was a free agent and he said that the Rams still own the rights to Odell. Well, that's when you started judging him a little. Yeah, true.

My thing was with the Jets. Yeah, the Zach Wilson thing. Basically saying, like, hey, this guy doesn't show up to meetings. He just basically does whatever the fuck he wants. And we got a call from, like, the sixth in command at the Jets or something. And they were like, can we talk to you off the record? And I don't know how this person is at their job, but they certainly told me, you don't think the New York media market would know if this fucking guy's missing team meetings.

That's a good call. That's a very good call. So we had to walk that thing back. But Schultz is taking hacks. He's trying to get into the insider game. Love it. He's out there doing it. He's got that Ichiro ball mitt on his desk. He's going to take hacks. It's as simple as that. Hey, Ichiro used to get on base. Oh yeah.

Ichiro was a fucking dog. Alright, before we get out of here, we have to showcase the final couple costumes that we have not got a chance to showcase. Yes. The one that needs to be seen is the man who hasn't said a word in this office since he started working here seven months ago.

Okay? Absolute weapon. Never seen somebody be a more machine-like human than this guy had a birthday a couple days ago we call him talk because not only is he making all the tick tocks but he also doesn't talk nope today great great costume kind of coming out of his uh you know show a little bit unfortunately saying hey i'll day i learned a lot about him this week yes you did we found out why he doesn't talk this This guy might not have

known that pregnancies are nine months, ten months. Had no clue what that was. Not really sure about life, I think. Okay. But when he does, he is the best in the world at. Check out Talk. Hey, do we have a camera on him? Hey, Talk's a clock. Talk, can you back up a little bit? Showcase the clock.

Here we go, Talk. Tick-tock, he said. Time's coming. Your time's coming, Todd. Good. There you go. Yes. Hell yeah. Good salute, too. Military clock.

Listen, he couldn't even wait to get... Yeah, it is on military time. Yeah. If you were to look at that. He couldn't... Let's move on, please. I got to get back into coding. Right.

I got to caption a video. I got one headphone doing real live show, one doing one from two hours ago. I'm captioning it. Did they. Did they cut us off with vaccine talk? Captioning, listening, doing the whole thing. We appreciate the hell out of your talk. Have we seen everybody? We've seen everybody.

The only one we haven't is Bruce. Yeah, where's Bruce? This one needs to be showcased on the stage. If there's any props Bruce has that go with his costume, he should probably bring those out here just in case. Sounds like you know a little bit more about his costume than the rest of us because you are giving hints and tips before he makes his way out here. We've seen Bill being shirtless as the guy that was performing a creed.

Bruce is here. He's a jockey. He is a jockey. How do you do, Brucey boy? Good boy, Bruce. Nice. Oh, because you control Jabba in the back. Yeah.

Jabba's your horse. There it is. It didn't work, though? Why didn't it work? I thought the zipper would go all the way down. You could just cut that thing. Yeah, he got scared. Bruce.

Great, great. Bruce, that's a good idea. Would we have had to shoot the horse at the end of the show? Looks like he already did. We're not shooting Jabba. We need a horse right now. It does feel like he skinned that horse right now. He brought almost glue, too. That's disgusting. skinned that horse. He brought almost glue too.

That's disgusting. Thanks for being a jockey for us, Bruce. Good outfit. Bruce looks good in that. I like that a lot. Who was that Scottish guy from back in the day? Payne Stewart? The actor?

Clint Eastwood? Sean Connery. Sean Connery. With the Pete family. A little bit, yeah. Is that a actor? Clint Eastwood? Sean Connery. Sean Connery. Gotta have like a Sean Connery. A little bit. With the Pete Thamel. A little bit, yeah. I've been hearing it through the day.

I could see that, yeah. You could drop that into a Scottish accent and be Sean Connery very quickly, I think. Not that Pete Thamel does impersonations, but I think we're only, we're at the tip of the spear of things that you could do. I listened to Pete Thamel's podcast this morning, you said, for 40 minutes. All of a sudden, we have the fucking living, breathing impersonation of Pete Thamel for three and a half hours.

You're a weapon, pal. You're an absolute weapon. Thanks for letting me do it. I appreciate it. And having Pete come on in the third hour and being able to kind of joust with him a little bit, if you will, is incredible. It didn't feel like he knew as much about Iowa as you did. No, yeah, he had a couple lines that, you know, I think Pete would even admit if he were to go look at it tonight,

he wished he would probably take those back. Oh, you beat him in the verbal sparring about Iowa? When it comes to Iowa football, yeah, I mean, Iowa City. Halloween Pete. Yeah, Halloween Pete. I mean, Iowa City East, Pete, come on. City West and City High, you should know yeah. Halloween Pete. Yeah, Halloween Pete. Iowa City East, Pete, come on. City West and City High, you should know that. He should. That's a

Pete Thamel thing. It is. I'm sure he's been on campus there. And then for him to basically say that they don't have very much talent when like I said, I think they're in the top five of sending guys to the NFL. Come on, Pete. Tight tighten up.

Pete's fully immersed in Michigan. That is his Pulitzer right now. He is. Speaking of Pulitzers, you've really caused quite a conversation over there in Pittsburgh on whether or not Canada is potentially the devil in Korean culture. Is that true? Yeah, I think there's a couple of blogs. Are we speculating? I think there's a couple of blogs who have certainly been pumped about the way

you've depicted just Matt Canada today. The hand paint. They really wrapped it together. I asked him if he could help me put on the Lolita costume, and he was like, eh, it'd be bloody. It'd be a bloody Lolita. Nah, I didn't want that. My Lolita's alive.

I just wanted to honor Matthew in his time of need in the way that I see him, in the way that a lot of yinzers see him. 37 minutes. As soon as we go, something big is going to happen. D-Hop is going to end up somewhere. We've done this the last three years. Remember how we always do, like, hey, let's remember this next year

around this time? This is one of those times. What do we remember? It sucks? Most of the stuff that will happen happens, and then the deadline stuff really is never like teams trying to get in at the end. Except for that one time the Cleveland Browns didn't put the fax in right. Is that right?

I was just about to say that, yeah. And they missed the timeline or whatever. They still do the fax? I would assume it's email, right? You would assume it was email three years ago. Hey, we might learn if it's email or not through this John Gruden thing. That's getting a trial, I believe. I think we're going to learn a lot about a lot.

Speaking of discovery and everything, congrats to Shannon Sharp. Yeah. Yeah. Good boy, Shannon. Case dismissed down there in Mississippi in the, I forget which court it was. I was also familiar with said court, District Court 4, yeah, of the Southern District of Mississippi, dismissed Brett Favre's defamation lawsuit against Shannon Sharp. The court found the statements were protected by

the First Amendment to the Constitution, obviously. Thanks to my legal team and their handling of this case. Congrats, Shannon. Congrats, buddy. I don't know how much that costs to go all the way to court. I do know how much mine costs for him to drop it against me in the middle of it all.

Shout out to Shannon getting a big dub there. Wear that as a chain. Wear that as a watch. Wear that as a dub. You deserve it all the way, Shannon. Speaking of watches, don't pronounce Aaron Rodgers' watch wrong, Edward Scissorhands.

It's not a TV. My whole life, it's been Zenith. This has been an ongoing thing with Aaron for two years. And he always says Zenith. And he's the only person I've ever heard say Zenith. Well, I think Zenith is the TV. Zenith's probably the watch. It's a good-looking watch, too. It was good. Yeah, it looked good.

Was it a green face? Yeah, for the Jets probably. Yeah. I believe I saw in an interview with GQ, he said it's not Jets green nor Packer green, but it's a green that both franchises could wear if they really wanted to. Oh, nice. He was trying to bring both of his homes together.

That's cool. That's very nice. Speaking of bringing things together, you really brought this show together when you showed up looking the way you look today. Thank you, AJ. Thank you, AJ. Thank you, Hunger. I had a full Sasquatch situation, like head to toe, everything,

but I couldn't speak well enough. I tried to rip the mouth open a little bit. It didn't work that well. There was a couple other costume ideas for myself as well, but knowing I had to speak for three hours certainly holds it back. I did think, though, about being on every TV everywhere. I'm happy to hear you did as well. You did with the way you went about looking today.

Yeah. Could you imagine the surprise of these fucking people seeing him? The walking through the airport. What the hell is going on? What is it? Is that easy? ESPN's really fell off. The amount of times that was said today.

All time high. All time high. Love it. Doug Peterson, though, was said today. All-time high. All-time high. Love it. Doug Peterson, though, just answering questions like just a normal show. Straight face. Straight face. You asked him a question. It was a good question. He just started answering and we were three wide with you on there and we were listening intently. Oh, look at the whale, the goth kid,

and then the head coach of the Jacks for Jack was really doing it. It was awesome. Alright, 31 winners. Come on, for Talk of Tech. You shoulduars really doing it. It was awesome. All right, 31 winners. Here we go. Bring in Taka Te. Come on, for Taka Te. You should have had some blood on your stomach or something. I told him I'd said it.

Yeah, he tried to put a bullet hole in his head of that thing, didn't you? That's not how I view Taka Te's final days. He smashed his head. Taka Te smashed his head into the thing over and over and over. No, that was a family member. That was not Lolita. Lolita was a Buddhist, if you do recall, and she went out

peacefully, dreaming about what was to come. So she just fell asleep, didn't wake up. Was she dreaming or was she a little nervous? That's why she ended up ending her own life, because although what we wanted to do for Tagi Day is nice in theory, maybe sometimes

whales don't want to move, especially if they're Buddhist and they have their temple set up. I did see some whale people are not happy about my depiction of Lolita. I'm honoring my favorite whale. Okay. It was Shamu. Then it was Willie who got freed. Then it was fucking Lolita Tagite.

Shamu was a dog. So was Willie. Yeah. I know you might be thinking that you're six feet from the edge and six feet maybe ain't so far down, but Mitt as Aquaman would be here to protect you and deflect any harm that came your way. I did think

about that, Scott. Whenever he walked out here, I was like Aquaman, he and I, but I don't know Aquaman well enough to know if he swims with the whales. Oh yeah, he is best friends. Oh yeah, he'd talk to them as well. Command them to do what he wants. Aquaman talks to me. Yeah, absolutely.

Good news. You might be the only one who would understand what Mitt is saying. Mitch Cheeks, so exposed today. Oh, yeah. Needed a large, got a medium. I think that is where we kind of fell on the whole thing. You look great, though. 31 people, $500 to celebrate.

Oh, no. Oh, no. I thought that was good. Closer than you thought. It's hard. It's rough. For Lolita! $35,000.

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