The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 101 - Marshawn Lynch, Steve Nash, & We're Giving Away An Escalade
Episode Date: September 5, 2019On today's show, Pat and the guys are live from Canada and have a couple of incredible interviews. First, Super Bowl champion, 5x Pro Bowler, First Team All-Pro, one of the best RB's of all-time, Beas...t Mode, Marshawn Lynch makes his long overdue first appearance on the show. Pat and Marshawn chat about the fallout from the decision not to run the ball at the goal line in the Super Bowl and how it started the collapse of the Seahawks dynasty, his thoughts on current RB's in the league getting big money contracts, what he did growing up that prepared him for the NFL, and whether or not the Hall of Fame is something he has his eyes on (3:12-37:05). Next, 2x NBA MVP, 8x All-Star, 3x All-NBA First Team, 5x NBA assists leader, and member of the Phoenix Suns Ring of Honor, Canadian legend Steve Nash joins the show. They chat about his mentality towards the grind of an NBA season, what it was like playing with guys like Shaq, Kobe, and Dirk, and what he learned from guys like that, what he's currently doing with his media company, his relationship with Kevin Durant after serving as a consultant for the Warriors, and who he believes is the greatest NBA player of all-time (41:53-01:11:11). Pat and the guys also cover some NFL as they chat about Antonio Brown's newest drama with the Raiders and if the Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl. They also recap their time in Canada and Pat previews a MASSIVE GIVEAWAY that will result in him giving away his Escalade to a fan who listens to the radio show every day next week (starting on 9/9). Today's a good one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hello, it is Thursday, September 5th, and we are coming to you live from a meeting room in Canada.
Today's episode 101, and we kept it 100,
just like we wanted.
Shout out Nate Burleson
for the rhymes.
Today was a great day.
It was a really good day.
We got a chance to talk to two legends
of their sport of life,
Marshawn Lynch and Steve Nash.
All thanks to our friends at DAZN
for setting this up.
We're in a train station.
There's a lot going on.
It was hot, but our live show launches
on Monday on DAZN and on Westwood One.
And we're giving away an Escalade.
Let's go.
Yep, we're giving away an Escalade.
Have to listen to the first week
of live shows next week.
Have to follow along to get code words and such to complete a little bit of a riddle to enter into a raffle.
A riddle for a raffle.
Did we just think of that?
No.
Yeah.
Who's to say?
Who knows? It's legit.
We're giving away an Escalade that is for real.
It's been parked in my driveway for about two years now.
I don't know why I don't drive it, but I couldn't think of anything better than giving it away
to an incredible fan who listens to the first live week we're on, Westwood One and DAZN.
Wow.
Wow.
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And boy, a legend joined me earlier in a room that was packed to the gills with humans,
about 100 degrees,
but it only brought the electricity out of this man.
Hi, how's it going?
I'm here live at a train station in Toronto.
It's an incredible setup and I'm sitting next to an absolute legend of a human being.
This man's a Super Bowl champion, yes.
He just dumped out of an Escalade with 200,000 Skittles right outside.
Yes.
Yes, he did do that.
I'm not believing he was doing it.
Yes. Yes, he did do that. Yes. Yes. And everything he's done off the field somehow
surpasses his Hall of Fame career on the field. He ran wild with the whitest human of all
time, Bear Grylls. Yes. He went to Scotland and wore a kilt there for a minute. No. No.
No. They tried to make you wear a kilt there for a minute. Yes. And to represent for DAZN, being the home of the NFL in Canada,
a man who ventured all the way to Toronto, Mr. Marshawn Litch.
Let's go.
What's happening, big dog?
Hey, you're one of the most epic humans walking this earth.
Um.
Yeah, you are.
this earth yeah you are just everything you do you just give zero fucks about anything it seems like are we going that route yeah what's happening with you
man yeah we're going out here well let's go that route I think the world got to
see you in that Super Bowl press conference right is that right I think
so I mean that was the talk of the town you say I'm just here so I won't get
fired that was it there's no other. I mean, that was the talk of the town. You say, I'm just here so I won't get fined.
That was it.
There's no other explanation other than that.
That was it.
That was all.
You didn't want to talk to the media at all?
How come?
No, I did want to talk to the media.
I did talk to them.
Yeah?
I just didn't talk about what they wanted to talk to me about.
So, they made a mockery of me.
Did you catch any hell on the backside of
that from the nfl that seems like something good dell would not love you know i caught a lot of
hell from that they weren't happy with you no fuck do you think that had to do with not giving you
the ball in the one yard line i don't know you think they would have been able to turn some
shit around that quick i don't know that's what i'm wondering because there's a chance that happens
then all of a sudden the hero of the Super Bowl could have been.
And they're like, excuse me, do not give him the ball.
You think it was like that Wild Wings commercial?
Yeah, where they hit the button.
They hit the button. Hey, can we keep this game going a little longer?
We need overtime and shit.
I don't, to be honest, shit, I don't know.
But if it's somebody that could pull it off, I would think it would be the NFL. That could.
Okay, so you won a Super Bowl, and obviously that Super Bowl happened. Shit, I don't know. But if it's somebody that can pull it off, I would think it would be the NFL that could.
Okay, so you won a Super Bowl.
True.
And obviously that Super Bowl happened.
Yes.
You have a Hall of Fame career.
It all started in Buffalo.
Right.
I watched you talk to a child in Buffalo.
He was interviewing you.
It was one of my favorite things I've ever seen.
The boy done did his homework. Yeah, and you told the kid that you learned how to play football from the town and running
into buses, you said.
In the back of them.
Is that a true story?
That's, yeah, that's facts.
Yes!
That's facts.
That's facts.
So growing up you were playing.
We played, there was, I mean, we used to call it a nigga bar but it was like throw up tackle where it was
one man they fan for they self and you just I mean what was the name of the
game you heard you heard me let's say I show up in the town no I couldn't know
yeah oh no no you could play but you just would have had to call it something
else like throw up tackle. Okay.
That town though that you're from,
you stayed connected with this entire time.
Most definitely. Loyalty seems
to be the biggest thing in Marshawn Lynch's life.
It is. Is that why you
played for the Raiders? It is. You felt like you owed the...
Well, I mean,
I grew up, you know, a Raider fan
but at the same time
I think it was more so the fact that you know, a Raiders fan, but at the same time, I think it was more so the fact that, you know, the Raiders was leaving Oakland.
So I had the opportunity to, you know, I didn't know I had the opportunity, but I wanted the opportunity to play for the team before they had left.
Because I had just did that over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over.
I just did that, you feel me? That over and over and over and over and over. I just did that.
You feel me?
That interview?
Yeah.
Right through a motherfucker's face.
Right through a motherfucker's face.
And then, you know, I had to come out of retirement.
So, you know, I felt I went and reneged on my word.
But at the same time, it was for a reason.
Like, shit, the raiders is gonna leave
open and they was supposed to uh had left um this year but didn't fall through so they played
another year but i would have been right on time with retiring again and the raiders leaving
you know i mean all right we did what we had to do.
Now y'all can go in.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Had a team type shit, but, I mean, you know, they're there for another year.
Did you enjoy your time with the Raiders?
I did.
I did.
Did.
I did.
It seemed as if you felt obligated to kind of rep for the city.
It kind of felt like that.
I mean, on the sideline, I got a chance to play in Coliseum over there.
Locker room's complete trash.
Trash.
It's a tough stadium.
Feel like you're potentially going to fall through in a lot of places.
But the environment there is insane.
They have a DJ that only plays Bay hits.
That's it.
What's his name?
That's it.
Do you remember?
Damn.
And I just went up there and got down with him.
I don't.
That's what I mean.
I can't remember the name.
I set you up for failure.
No, you ain't set me up for failure.
Shit, I get hit in the head.
We're going to put it like that.
I forgot.
But the environment there is insane.
They say it ain't nothing like the town.
And I mean, going to a Raiders game,
you're going to experience that.
I'm talking about from on the way to the game, entering to the stadium,
in the stadium, all the way to leaving out that motherfucker.
You're going to get a real dose of the town straight up.
It felt like the Seattle Seahawks were on their way to be a dynasty
you were a massive part of that the legion of boom was a massive part of that yes everything kind of
crumbled over there it really it was insane to watch happen because this was a team that could
have went on and done incredible things all the way around yeah and that play and you talk about the Super Bowl and it's and it's crazy to me that
most people would will bring up the fact like oh that's the guy that that don't talk in interviews
type shit rather than that's the guy that don't have no dynasty because they coach decided to
you know I mean throw a throw a pass play or something like that. But it's crazy how all this shit gets looked at.
Did you, you were on the sideline.
No, you were in the game.
Mm-mm, mm-mm.
You were in the game when you didn't get the ball.
I was in the huddle.
And the play gets called.
True.
And you sit there, as I would assume the entire offensive line,
who any offensive line likes to run the ball.
I would assume everybody in that huddle had a moment of,
well, what the hell is going would assume everybody in that huddle had a moment of, well,
what the hell is going on here?
Is that a fact?
Yeah, it was kind of a pause, kind of a what the fuck moment, a kind of,
you know, everybody tired.
We just put together a drive, too, you know what I'm talking about?
Fourth quarter Super Bowl. We just put, yeah, one of them ones.
26 weeks into a season.
You know, it's one of them ones where you, I don't know who that old dude is,
but when he do all the recaps of the game, make them real dramatic.
Like, yeah, and then they go down and they, you know what I mean?
You could hear his voice type of, that was the drive that we just put together.
Like the Steve Sable from NFL Films.
That's his name?
I don't know if he's still alive.
Yeah, I put, oh, well, shit, we need to.
That's on me.
Now you set you up for failure. Yeah, I put, oh, well, shit, we need to. That's on me. Now you set you up for failure.
Yeah, I.
See how that shit turned around?
Yeah, I set me up.
Be careful with me, bro.
Be careful with me.
But the whole way that thing just played out, because, you know, we had, I think I went and ran a sluggo, which was a big play.
Then we had the receiver. Explain what a sluggo, which was a big play. Then we had the receiver.
Explain what a sluggo is, please.
A slant and go.
You're talking to Canadians?
NFL is on the zone.
A slant and go.
A slant and go.
Yeah, okay.
So you ran a sluggo.
A double move, which is not common for a running back to run.
Yep.
But, you know, I ran a sluggo, and we probably got like a 30, 40-yard pass reception on that.
And then Kers had that juggling catch it was a magical drive yeah yeah everything
was coming together everything and then uh the shit came to it relatively just
like that quickly just like that. Tell you what, boys.
It's getting good, isn't it?
All the best.
So what had happened was, he and I were talking.
There was a lot of people in the room.
It took him a little bit to get comfortable because he and I were having a private conversation in a room filled with a lot of people.
And I'll tell you what, we started to hit a groove here in a little bit.
I mean, we got what you're looking for when it comes to answers from Marshawn Lynch.
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Flight home from the Super Bowl. After that.
I don't know.
I didn't get on the flight.
You didn't get on the plane? Nah.
We blew the hotel down.
We blew that motherfucker down, bro.
I'm talking about we blew it down, though.
I mean, I had an interesting little journey after that.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
Just leaving from the stadium and getting over to, back to the hotel.
You had a good time?
I had a great time.
Had a bottle of pure white Hennessy in my bag.
Okay.
You know what I mean?
I got a nice escort.
Like a police escort?
Like U.S. Marshals type shit.
This was like.
Because there are plenty of different types of escorts.
I mean, shit, it was probably some escorts out there, too.
You know what I mean?
I mean, I'm going to tell them to sell it, personally, myself.
I'm going to tell them to sell it, but at the end of the day,
it was a vehicle escort that we had.
Yeah, U.S. Marshal.
Yeah. Lights, the whole thing. No, no lights. Okay.
But on the way out of the stadium, you know, I seen my family ride by him. I jump out the
window with the bottle of Hennessy. Hey, meet me at the hotel. We about to blow it down ASAP.
We get back to the hotel, you know what I mean? Get out, enjoy our little time or whatever.
After that, did you retire immediately after that?
No, I didn't.
You played another year with Seattle?
Yep.
How was it the year after?
Was it awkward?
What was it?
Earl Thomas, right?
Earl Thomas gets hurt.
He's getting carted off the field, flips off Pete Carroll.
Yeah, that was a different time, though.
That's what I'm saying.
You weren't there for that.
No, I wasn't there for that.
But it seemed like that team was something special,
and then something went wrong,
and it all revolves around not handing the ball off.
Yeah, I mean, you know, in certain aspects of the game, you know,
as men, we talk to own up, you know.
Accountability.
Exactly.
Yeah.
And take account for your mistakes.
Yeah.
And a lot of my teammates didn't feel that Pete did.
And, I mean, you know, they kind of followed him.
That commercial you did with the beer?
Oh, the lead.
Whoa, absolutely hysterical.
I'm happy that you did it.
I think it kind of set in motion this series of events of us getting to watch you enjoy life.
They sent you in to watch Red Panda and just filmed you to react to what you were seeing.
A lot of people are paying you just to be Marshawn Lynch.
Is that exactly how you saw your retirement going?
I mean, that's exactly how it was.
That's exactly how it is right now.
Yeah.
But I mean, shit.
I wouldn't be doing nothing else.
They couldn't pay me to come in here and be you.
Let's say Ezekiel Elliott just signed for 50 mil.
Get your chicken.
Get your chicken. How do you feel about Melvin Gordon he need to get his so Le'Veon Bell I think he kind of set the precedent
almost not for holding out players have been holding out for a long time but Le'Veon Bell
actually stuck with it he rapped he was on yachts he was living then he got paid by the Jets ended
up being a little bit of an ugly marriage with the Steelers, a breakup.
Antonio Brown took a lot of the pressure off him.
Now Melvin Gordon, Ezekiel Elliott is the running back position one
that guys have to know their worth because it's going to be devalued publicly
by the media, not by teams, but by the media.
I mean, even by teams too, but I mean, at the end of the day,
you've got to stand for something.
You have to stand for something.
And, I mean, whatever that is.
Because, I mean, at the end of the day, I can't speak for them personally.
Yep.
And I don't know what kind of values they hold to they self.
But, at the end of the day, whatever it is that you stand for, you have to stay true to that.
Yeah.
That's the only way I feel that you're going to get what's coming to you.
That's fucking awesome.
Where do you see yourself in five years?
In five years?
You're going to be dumping out of an Escalade with 500,000 Skittles?
500, huh?
You got to up it on that ass.
You feel me?
No, don't leave me hanging.
That's on me.
You got to up it, man.
You got to up it. But I mean, right now, in five years where I see myself, like you was talking about, I'm very involved in the community.
So you're coaching football?
I didn't see you coaching football.
But I was running some camps.
I saw you run some stairs.
I saw a lady not happy with you coaching.
That shit ain't going to stop.
And I could just, well, in five years, I should have about five more angry parents like that.
But maybe in five years, like, I mean, you know, that's my passion is I like to give back to those who, I'm going to say less fortunate and as well as just kids that's willing to learn something new.
I think what isn't your on-field play, I think, and I think this is about myself too,
I think your personality kind of camouflages how great you are on the field in a lot of people's eyes.
I'm excited for the day you go into the Hall of Fame.
I can't wait for your Hall of Fame party.
I'm going to show up at it afterwards there in Canton.
Your speech is going to be awesome.
The game of football, though.
The game of football itself.
It's been changing.
You're an old school football player.
How do you feel about all the changes that the game of football has been having?
I mean, there's, well, I mean, shit up until the point where I got a few family members that's still active in the league.
And then, you know, I got.
Oh, yeah, hold on.
When that fight happened with your cousin and you sprinted on the field as a Raider.
As a Raider.
As a Raider. As a Raider.
As a Raider to break. You're the only human in the history of the NFL, raider to break you're the only human in the history of
the nfl by the way you're the only person in his crowd control man just walking your well i forget
who you're i think it was your cousin you were walking out of the stadium and the whole thing
you really were just like a moderate a peacemaker in there i think you were the only person in the
history of the nfl i could have done that by by the way. I just believe that it would have escalated into
some more
shit if I not had done
that. How about the
train ride home? That motherfucker was
yanking. I'm telling you.
We had, hey, we had
the whole BART
because, you know,
my cousin. That's the train there, BART?
Yeah, we call it the bart okay yeah but we had
the whole bart uh um yelling at my cousin yelling at him uh fuck the rams oh nice you know i mean
that's really good so the whole the whole cart full of people just fucking around but i mean
you know that was a that was that was an interesting experience.
If you had to look back at your career, oh, you ran over 45 people in one place.
I forgot about that.
There's so many things you've done.
Look back at your career, though, and summarize it.
What would it be?
You said, what would it be?
Yeah, just like a summary of your career you think I mean I to me just to just the easiest the simplest times will be you know the old cliche that when you get knocked down
what you gonna do is you gonna get up swinging or is you gonna tuck your tail
and curl up like a bitch over and over well there you go. And over.
Did that old white guy get a little bit intimidated during that conversation?
No, you know what?
He actually didn't.
He got more intimidated by me when I ran up on his ass because we went to Taco Bell and they didn't pay for the food.
Hey, I'm doing an interview with you.
At least pay for some contract supreme, bro.
I end up buying they food I'm like
what the fuck kind
of shit is this
how is this 60
minutes y'all ain't
got no damn budget
for a goddamn taco
supreme or no more
fucking uh no nachos
and shit what the
fuck kind of shit
is this
how is the beast
mode merch going I
bought I have a shirt
and a hat that's it
oh we got to get you
some molding no let
me buy it I'm gonna going to support the business.
You're supporting the business right
now by bringing it up. Somebody's going
to hear this and they're going to want to go and get it at
beastmoldonline.com
or either the Oakland store, Seattle
store, or the Vegas store.
You have stores? Yeah.
Oh, see, this isn't talked about with
Marshawn Lynch just being an incredible entrepreneur.
You have storefronts for Beast Mode?
I do.
Is that Skittles you just pulled?
I feel like you just pulled Skittles.
Me with the one that fell out the whip, man.
So it's not $200,000 no more.
You know how people get sick of a flavor?
You and Skittles is a relationship that's going to last forever.
See, look, it's not like a thing, i just eat these like that it was more of a something to
calm my stomach down before games yeah and then somebody found it you became an electric it wasn't
that they found it they just knew that that's why i ate them and then the pulled them out on
the sideline and then caught i've been been doing this shit since Pop Warner. It was something my mama used to give me. They used to call me a sugar baby.
You're a sugar baby? Sugar baby. All I wanted to eat was candy and shit.
You think that's why you are the guy you are right now? That I ate a hell of candy? Yep.
Yep. Yes. I mean, shit, who knows?
You're pulling more out of your pants.
Hey, but no, man, we got to get good, man.
Because I know you done had people reach out to me.
I told you, I seen the Marshawn Lynch tribute that you did.
Greatest human on earth.
I had no idea that you fucked with me like that, though.
Yeah, because I was sick of seeing people say dumb shit.
I was literally like, there's a lot of dumb things said about you. I'm sure you know literally like There's a lot of dumb things said about you
I'm sure you know that
There's a lot of dumb things said about you
But why you get offended though?
Because I don't like it
I just don't like it
I don't like when people say dumb shit
You should come with me just and walk down the street
And listen to some of the dumb shit that I do
That's what I thought we were going to do to be honest
I had no idea we were going to be holed up in here
I thought we were going to be able to stop by the Honey Pot and walk just through the town.
I heard it's not that far away from here.
And if they got all the flavors that you're talking about, then we could put these Skittles back in my pocket.
Tell them about it.
This upcoming NFL, do you still watch NFL a lot?
You know what?
I do.
I do. I do.
Because I want to make sure that
Josh is getting down. I want to make sure
that Marcus is getting down.
I'm looking out for my little brother Jamar Summers
who's going to
it was just with the
Lions who just got released but
I know he'll be getting picked up but
I'll be wanting to watch. Like I told you
our foundation has a lot of kids that's playing in the NFL
that came through our football camp.
So, you know, I'll be wanting to.
Through your camp?
Really?
Yeah, so I'll be wanting to just keep an eye on, damn, that make me.
Like, bro, you know what I'm talking about?
Like, I could be playing, right?
Yeah, look, by the way. And some of the craziest shit, like, I've been Damn, that make me, like, bro, you know what I'm talking about? Like, I could be playing, right? Yeah, look, you can by the way, I feel you. And some of the craziest
shit, like, I've been hearing, like, when I
did come back to the Red, like, one of
the little dudes was like, yeah, bro, I was in the fifth
grade when you got drafted. I'm like, what?
Hey, bro.
Hey, don't tell nobody else that, bro.
You know what I mean? But,
you know, I'll be liking to, you know,
catch up with him and see what's going on. And then, just to see, like, you know, I'll be liking to, you know, catch up with them and see what's going on.
And then just to see, like, you know, the running back position with, you know,
with the running backs who getting their check.
You know, that shit make me feel good, though.
Because I remember it was at a point in time where I was in that position.
And I think about, like, what would I tell those young men
if I were to be able to talk to them?
And then, you know, not being able to hold court with them,
but actually being able to see, you know,
the route that they took in order to get their check,
or some of the ones who maybe didn't get their check
or who got released or got cut or you know what I'm saying, that the team didn't pay them just
to see they thought process, know they mindset on why they did.
Do they reach out to you?
No, not really.
Are you an easy to reach guy?
I mean shit, if you pull up in the town then hell yeah I am.
I am pulling up in the town. Come pull up on the town then hell yeah I am. I am right there. I am pulling up in the town.
Come pull up on your boy you could come and play throw up tackle with us. Hey Mr. Lynch
I was wondering if we could potentially play a game of throw up tackle ball? No but I mean
it really go like that though. Yeah I saw the there was something I don't know if it
was a documentary somebody did you had an entire street party you had like an entire
block party I don't know how often that is but somebody did. You had an entire street party. You had, like, an entire block party.
I don't know how often that is, but it's incredible what you've done for your community.
You're an entrepreneur.
You give back to your community.
You're a stud on the field, and you're hilarious.
I don't know why there would ever be a negative thing said about Marshall Lynch.
Hey, look, man.
People like to judge mistakes.
You know what I mean?
And then, I mean, you know, them mistakes is just like a fraction of a second of your time and of your life.
And, I mean, you know, like anything else, we talk about the media and how they like to control the narrative.
That's pretty much how that shit goes to that.
And then people just judge you off that tenth of a second of your life, babe.
You know what I mean?
Rather than. And into their credit the
humans that are doing this they're lazy most people are lazy so they don't want to dig in
deeper find out what it really is yeah you know how that go yeah but i am going to re-watch
the um the tribute that you did come on man yeah i mean because i mean and then uh i don't know who
it was some somebody from your team reached out to me,
and we were supposed to have been able to do this long before we was today.
It just so happened that. Well, look, we're doing it in Canada.
International.
Yeah, with good laws for a honeypot.
Vitamins.
Vitamins.
Yeah, a lot of vitamins up here.
Right.
So it worked out.
I mean, you know, I like to say nine-tenths of the game is a position,
and it seemed like this positioned itself pretty good.
One more thing I got to ask about.
You steamrolled a high school kid in that high school football game.
Ran his ass over.
Ran.
I mean, you.
Yep.
And over. Yep. And over. Ran. I mean, you. Yep. And over.
Yep.
And over.
Yep.
I'll do it every time.
Do you play any football anymore?
Yeah.
At the camps, you still get involved in stuff?
Most definitely.
What I've learned, I don't have a kid, thank God.
But if I was to, I think what I've learned from a lot of other professional athletes
is you can't just let them win. We don't live in a society where you can just let people win. but if I was to, I think what I've learned from a lot of other professional athletes is
you can't just let them win.
We don't live in a society
where you can just
let people win.
Don't say that
because look, man,
I'm already sensitive
because that lady came
and she,
you know what I mean,
she got on my head.
She came after you?
Yeah, she did.
What did you do?
I don't know.
What was she yelling
at you for?
She was yelling at me
because she told me
that I told her son to get the fuck out my drill.
Drills was over about 30 minutes ago.
So I was confused.
Now, what happened was there were some kids that I told to get behind the line.
Okay.
Because...
Onside.
Yeah, on the field. Okay. Because. Onside. Yeah, on the field.
Yep.
And I tell them to back up
because the drill that we were doing,
they can get ran into,
and I didn't want none of them to get hit.
Standard in football practice.
Standard.
So I told them, hey, back up.
So what I did was I got to the line
where I told them to get behind,
and I walked straight down the line. Basically
any kid that was on the left of me, I told him to go and run two laps. Her son didn't
want to run two laps. So instead of going and running two laps, he went up there and
told his mama that I said, get the fuck out of my drill.
Yeah, but by the time she got down there... Hey, there's nothing you can
do about that. You're looking
out for the kid, by the way. You're trying
to teach him a little bit of discipline, a little bit of responsibility.
Like, hey, we're just supposed to stand over here, stand over here.
That don't count. It does.
That's what you were trying to do.
All that count is that lady
coming in and saying whatever she said saying did you see the tagline too
marshawn lynch involved in tirade with football mom that shit was hilarious well i'm telling you
i'm glad i had to run up them bleachers otherwise it probably would have been a different story but
i was tired as shit yeah you were winded welled. Well, I was gassed. And that's another reason
why I'm staying active, because I don't want
situations like that again.
I say, what if that lady would just haul off
and punch my ass in the face? I wouldn't have been
able to do shit. We was sitting there
tired in the middle. You got me.
Fuck it. You got this.
If that football mom
would have beat you up, that would have just added
to another incredible moment of the man
who's going to be in the Hall of Fame someday
a Super Bowl champion
a Canadian
vitamin subscriber
a DAZN subscriber
and
when I say this I mean this
one of the greatest football players to ever put on a pair of cleats
hey man I appreciate that, big dog.
No problem, man. Can I get invited
to the Hall of Fame party?
I'll come through the town first. I'll earn it.
I'll earn it. I'll come through the town.
I mean, you know what?
It'd be a blessing if
that happened. I mean...
Have you thought about it? Have you thought about
Hall of Fame potential? Because you literally are a candidate for it.
I mean, what I do is I just.
Would that mean something?
Would it mean something?
Yeah, like is that something you're like, you know what, it would be cool.
Because, I mean, it's like that my work didn't go unnoticed.
And there's a lot of shit that go on into this league that won't speak volumes to my play.
Like the fact of how I really took care of my teammates.
And, I mean, to the point where if I was to feel how everybody would want me
to feel because I didn't get handed the ball in the Super Bowl, I'd be a whole completely
different person to the fact where if it came down to it, if you don't know, like the first
Super Bowl that we won, I think I played a drive in the second half.
I didn't know that. All I played was a drive in the second half.
And my whole goal was to get
all of our running backs
that suited up that game
to be able to get a carry
in the Super Bowl.
But leading up to that,
as far as I can go back to playing football,
for whatever reason,
this 100-yard mark for a running back is like solidifying the game
for a running back when they get 100 yards.
So if it ever came to a point where if I was going the first quarter
and I would have 100 yards, I would do whatever I could.
Go on.
Now, any running back that I ever played with,
I'm talking about all the way dating back to fucking Pop Warner,
they'll tell you like, Marshawn will pull himself out and won't play
just so all the other running backs can get an opportunity to play.
And I mean, I done been in the backfield with Fred Jackson,
with Justin Forsett, Leon Washington, Christian Michaels, Spencer Ware, shit, Jalen Rashard, DeAndre
Washington. Like, any running back that ever played with me will be able to tell you like yeah if we in a game and
and and and shine either God got a hundred or the game is to a point where
it ain't no it ain't no coming back whether we lose him by a lot or we win
him by a lot he'll pull himself out so all the other
running backs can get to play see that's a big thing don't nobody don't and when
you look at my stats I'm like damn cuz there's a never a couple game you pick
a new owner if you just cuz look we had a run in Seattle and the player development guy over there,
we blew,
we put up like 50, like three weeks in a row.
And he was like,
at the rate that you was going,
if you would have played throughout the whole game,
you rushed for like 250
yards. And he like,
if you just put 250
yards on
each one of them games, you had a thousand yards by like week.
You would have had the rushing record.
By like week.
He like, so why don't you just do it?
I'm like, well, shit.
My thing was, I wasn't a, I mean, I was a, when I practiced, I was a, I was a practice guy.
I was a practice guy.
But I mean, you know, to preserve my body,
we put together some good programs that took care of my body.
So a lot of the other running backs had to, you know,
had to bear the hard work of practice and shit.
Yeah.
So I'm like, man, let them niggas eat too.
Like, I ain't the only one.
And I mean.
I think how your teammates feel about you means more than anything like for me if I'm gonna go do a thing with a media
member or somebody that used to play I like to see what their old teammates
said about them right that's always something that was very big for me like
Robert Mathis when I first got started he came out and said something like you
couldn't wait for me to get going like for me that meant more than anything
else right a good teammate means a lot I don't know if that gets talked about He came out and said something like he couldn't wait for me to get going. Like for me, that meant more than anything else.
Being a good teammate means a lot.
I don't know if that gets talked about enough, especially about you.
Entrepreneur, good teammate.
Only because I do all that shit behind the scenes.
A lot of the shit I do, it ain't to be talked about.
Well, I'm happy we just talked about it because the world needs to know about it.
Ladies and gentlemen, legend of a human, future Hall of Famer,
great teammate, Super Bowl champ.
Yes.
Marshawn Lynch.
Thank you, man.
Vitamin consumer.
Yes.
Hey, good for us to get a nice conversation on Marshawn Lynch.
Very thankful for him. A lot of things are probably going to get quoted out of Marshawn Lynch. Very thankful for him.
A lot of things are probably going to get quoted out of that, I assume.
I'm not sure I can go play the game that he played as a child over there in the town.
Try not.
But think about that.
He played a game when he was a kid on the streets
where it was just whoever had to kill the man with the ball.
And he would run into trucks.
Yes.
And cars.
Yes.
And other little kids.
Yes.
And nobody understood that that was preparing him for life more
than any class that he could have possibly went to.
That beast quake run that happened
was literally his childhood just coming to life.
And all those defenders just had to sit there and fucking take the years of training that he had.
It's awesome.
What a signature moment to have, too, for your career, that play.
And, by the way, you could almost get caught up in the moment or be tired there.
To finish it off diving in the end zone.
Yeah.
He knew it was.
I just think of him doing that as a kid. And they were like over a bush in his end zone. Yeah. He knew it was... I just think of him
doing that as a kid
in the neighborhood,
like over a bush
in his front yard,
you know,
like after he just
beat the entire neighborhood.
I like Marshawn Lynch.
I hope he comes on again.
I don't know how easy
that'll be to ever
book him again.
I'm like...
You got to pull up?
I got to pull up
in the town.
I should.
We should do that.
Absolutely.
I feel like there was
almost an invite in there
I think
I kind of
invited myself
we show up at the town
and throw it down
Ty Schmitz
just ripping
black and miles
down the street
I watched the party
man
there's a lot of
black and miles
there's a lot of
they had a good time
though
I do black and miles
yeah
hey if they got
basketball there
there's no
we'll bring
cornhole into that yeah yeah we'll bring cornhole into that
yeah
yeah
we'll bring
the cornhole
we'll like put it
on a backpack
and be like
what the fuck
these white people
got wooden boards
on their back
wait till you
play this game
man
um
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DAZN is the new home for football in Canada.
Everybody knows your extended relationship with football, soccer. are you an NFL fan at all I am
you know it's funny I grew up like a two-hour drive from Seattle across the border in Canada
obviously and I was a Seahawks fan so did you meet Marshall Lynch yeah I did how was that it was
awesome he's uh I mean he's just one of those athletes, you know, an incredible football player, but also super charismatic, you know, magnetic personality.
So, you know, it's always fun to root for a guy who's a little irreverent.
And, you know, he obviously on the field was, in his moments, unstoppable.
But, you know, his personality, too, made it so much fun to cheer him on.
Who was somebody that, you know, 18 years in the NBA is literally nothing to sneeze at?
That is a full-grown adult's lifespan, right?
You can vote.
Your NBA career could vote in America.
I could buy lottery tickets, tobacco, can serve in the military,
can't drink alcohol just yet.
But 18 years is a long time.
Throughout your career career what was one
constant for you you think you mean like how do you stay on top yeah well I mean for me I think
work ethic you know whatever you want to put first like you have to have the passion to make the
sacrifices to put the work in you know and so I always found a way to inspire myself, motivate myself
to make the sacrifices, to put the time in, and it became a way of life, you know.
Were you a chip on the shoulder guy?
Not really.
I wasn't a chip on the shoulder guy, but I was an underdog.
Even when I was in my prime, I felt like an underdog.
I felt, because I had one scholarship offer you know I
came in the league as a backup and you know progressed was a little bit of a late bloomer
so for me I just it was in me that I was always an underdog like I always had a mountain to climb so
even when I was in my prime you know I went to bed thinking about what was my routine tomorrow
and getting up excited to like knock it down and, and, and get better. So, uh, that, that, you know,
however you want to articulate that,
that's what made my career and that's what it was my lifestyle.
You didn't take it for granted.
I think that's kind of the thing about an underdog is you don't,
you're not expected to be there.
So you don't take it for granted and you earn every day.
That's a huge part of it, but it became a habit.
I loved that way of life.
What was your routine? Because NBA seasons are long.
You're traveling all over the place too.
There's not a lot of
downtime.
Depending on summer or season, but during the season
I always made sure
that I took care of my body.
So I tried to make it
by the end of my career it evolved midway through my career to evolve to a place was pretty
holistic you know when I came in the league we didn't talk about recovery
modules and stuff like that it was like you know like throw some ice on it do
the stim stim yeah 10 years ago was stimming ice right always you know and
so so I came in the 96 20 some odd years ago and uh you know but but then I was always super curious because I was putting so much time into this.
I wanted to know, was there something else?
So I got to work with some incredible people, learned a lot.
So everything, sleep, diet, you know, doing my activation, corrective exercises, all that stuff that kept me, you know, moving well and able to perform and recover.
You know, and then you got your gym work and your pre-practice stuff.
So you put it all together, it was pretty holistic.
Yeah, I don't know what that means, the word holistic.
But I respect what you're saying.
It sounds important.
The whole, the whole.
Yeah, like a circle.
Yeah, a circle with all the elements in it.
You got to play in a lot of places. Bounce around a little bit. Phoenix, like a circle. Yeah, a circle with all the elements in it. You got to play in a lot of places.
Bounce around a little bit.
Phoenix, Dallas, L.A.
You got to play in L.A. with a couple characters who just came up in the news, pop culture news.
Kobe, Dwight, Shaq took a shot out of nowhere at Dwight and Kobe had to respond.
I wouldn't want you to talk about that,
but the human that Kobe is, is this Mamba character, right? Who's incredibly hard on his teammates in practice. He's this guy who will shit talk anybody. What was your relationship
being teammates with Kobe Bryant as being one of the greatest basketball players of all time?
He as well. What was it like going into the Lakers organization?
It was actually a little strange because we were drafted in the same draft,
you know, a few spots from each other.
We played against each other.
We played each other in the playoffs three times.
You know, so to be teammates was bizarre in a sense, right,
because there was a hard wall between us, you know, in a sense, right? Because there was a hard wall between us, in a sense, on the court.
So to be teammates was bizarre.
But having said that, like I said, we kind of grew up together in this league
and made careers and names for ourselves.
And so there was a respect that made it easy.
It was just unfortunate.
I broke my knee, tip-fib joint, my second game in the Lakers. that made it easy. It was just unfortunate.
I broke my knee, tip-fib joint, my second game in the Lakers.
The end of that season, he ruptured his Achilles.
Timing wasn't good.
He missed the next year.
I played like 11 games the next year.
And then in his final year, I retired in that training camp.
Just couldn't do it anymore.
I was 40 and couldn't recover. So it was a great experience to to play with them but the
reality is we didn't play much together you know probably played 50 games
together or something and and 50 hobbled games for me but you know more than
actually funny you know more than playing together it was just great to
compete against them from the entirety of my career.
The thought, whatever your name is mentioned, is not only that you were a facilitator of the ball, which is obviously big for the point guard, but you had some wiggle.
I mean, you had some wiggle.
You were an explosive player when nobody would expect it. And probably because of the holistic training.
Probably because of the holistic training.
and probably because of the holistic training,
probably because of the holistic training,
but your love for soccer is something that is huge.
And I just learned you played rugby growing up.
I did, yeah.
Do you think playing all those other sports helped you with basketball?
100%. I mean, I think all the sports helped.
Basketball was the last sport I played.
So I played basketball, started playing in the eighth grade, 13.
It was really when I started playing.
And at that time, it was one of four or five sports I was playing.
So I don't think I would have been an NBA player if I hadn't played soccer,
but all the other sports as well.
But I think it gave me...
Four or five sports?
Yeah, I mean, I was playing every school sport.
I didn't play rugby in the eighth grade,
but in the eighth grade, I played soccer and hockey,
like on the city select teams.
Does everybody in Canada just play hockey yet?
You have to.
It's pretty popular.
Pond hockey?
Youth soccer is really popular, just like it is in the States.
Hockey is super popular.
Basketball is kind of, it's probably changed now,
but then it was more of a school sport.
So I'd play the other school sports. So you it up you're playing basketball soccer hockey track everything whatever
volleyball whatever season is yours is out there with the boys playing so I think that for me I
was you know you just said I was explosive I wasn't explosive I was elusive. You know, I could suck you in, and I was a con artist, so to speak.
But I wasn't like, I was never going to get on the line and outrun, jump, out-muscle somebody.
And so I had to rely on everything I learned from all the sports,
and that was kind of the faculty that allowed me to get there.
18 years being a professional athlete is something I could never fathom.
It's so impressive.
And now you're into it.
It is.
It is.
Because it's everything, not just on the court game day, right?
It's everything else you talked about that's insane, especially with the travel of the NBA.
How does that affect you?
You have five kids now.
Yeah.
An entire starting five.
Yeah.
Would they beat every
other family of uh seven in canada if they had to you know a few of them i'm not so pleased with
their their form right now so let's see how it goes and see how it goes uh how was the travel
though of nba what is the lifestyle yeah it's it's tough you know i mean uh you know of course
we fly private and you know it looks like this incredible gift and it is.
But it's not always glamorous, like stumbling out of a bus at 3.30 in Cleveland and you played, you know, a time zone behind a few hours ago and then you play that night, you know what I mean?
So sometimes it's ugly behind the scenes, but it's such an unbelievable experience
to play professional basketball against the best players in the world. And then it was worth every,
oh, it's just, I miss it. I never play anymore, but I look back on it.
Never ever played?
Never. I haven't played for five years.
Is that like something you've done on purpose?
Oh, I just don't have the urge. You know, I play soccer. I play tennis.
Love trying and doing new things.
So I don't have the urge to play hoops.
And actually, to be honest, my back, it's just those movements and that surface, you know, it needed a change.
It doesn't feel great doing that anymore.
If you and I were to show up at a street court, though, let's say in Venice, California, you still got it?
You think you still got it?
I could probably hold my own.
I probably still got it as maybe a stress.
Well, there's like homeless people playing basketball there.
I would assume.
I think we can win a few games.
The NFL is now on the zone, as is the Premier League and...
Champions League.
Champions League.
I could go on.
DAZN is literally the home for everything here in Canada.
Do you still live in Canada?
I don't.
I live in Los Angeles.
Do you bounce back and forth at all?
I'm up here quite a bit.
You know, my brother and sister live in Vancouver.
My parents live half the year near us and half the year in British Columbia.
And, you know, this and that always brings me up.
So I love Canada.
Proud to be Canadian.
Love to come up here with five kids.
It doesn't happen too much, but I'm up here a few times a year for sure.
I love Canada.
I've only been here a few times.
We came a couple weeks ago for the WWE.
They were in town.
And then we've come up here for this.
The vibe up here is incredible it's awesome
i mean toronto vancouver montreal like the big cities but obviously this is a big old country
with not that many people relatively so there's a lot of wide open spaces that are amazing but the
you know the big cities here are great vancouver is when i mean vancouver when the sun's out
the most beautiful city in north america toronto is you know, as far as like coming to a city and entertainment and fun and all that stuff.
You get that big city vibe here, like New York, Chicago.
It's clean, quiet.
Great vibe, like you said.
And Montreal is an entity to itself that's really spectacular as well.
Were you pulling for the Raptors?
I'm a consultant for the Warriors.
So I was pulling for the Warriors hard.
I should have known. That's hard. I should have known.
That's another thing I should have known.
Research.
Small thing about being a podcast host.
It's not the end of the world.
Season two.
Season two.
We'll research.
No, it's better though.
Learning these things.
Better content.
See what Steve wants to talk about.
What does that mean?
You're a consultant for the word.
Steph Curry's jumper, good.
Yeah, exactly.
Keep it going.
Shoot a lot.
And frankly, that's been a part of the role.
For much of my time there, they've been a well-oiled machine.
So I'm just like a resource.
I worked a lot with Kevin Durant on the court.
On the court or off the court, both?
On the court.
You know, we had a routine going in the summers
and during the season when I was up there.
I'm only up there a couple days a month.
But I'm there if they want to discuss anything.
You know, this year I'll be more involved maybe in the player development model
as the team's changing, you know this year i'll be more involved maybe in the player development model as the team's changing you know and so steve kerr basically gave me an awesome opportunity
said i want you to be involved i want you to be a part of it i want you to have total freedom
because you're just coming out of your career when it started and and we're still there but uh i i
love it i learned a lot from him and his staff the organization and uh hopefully i can give a little
bit back from my experiences,
but really I've just been thrilled to be a part of that franchise.
I think anybody that gets a chance to work with you in the basketball world
will be excited about it.
Kevin Durant, arguably the best basketball player on earth.
And any time you have success like the Golden State Warriors have,
there's going to be drama that follows it, right?
I mean, any time you're good, that's just what's going to happen, right?
I think you experienced that during your career. Golden State Warriors are battling that now. Kevin Durant makes
the decision to go to Brooklyn and everybody talks about, you know, he kind of got buried by it all.
What was your experience with Kevin Durant as a human? Well, Kevin's, you know, he's a thoughtful
guy. He's a guy that wants the experience of learn and grow. You know, he's not some guy that just wants to go home for the summer and shut the doors.
You know, he's a guy that travels the world, builds businesses, is an addicted hooper.
So he's a multifaceted individual.
And I think the same reason he left Oklahoma City for Golden State is the same reason he
left Golden State for Brooklyn and that's just
he's a curious guy who is
is constantly looking to challenge himself and
experience new environments and and that's what we see and
he beats to his own drummer and he has every right to do that and
Backlash is something that obviously he's he's big enough to accept you like
him i like him a lot great great human being great human being great human just as a human yeah good
human yes great basketball player too historically off the charts good at basketball yeah see i have
a pretty wet jumper so i never really got a shot but I would argue you know he's probably in the top three jumpers of all time he well I actually don't think he
is the is the greatest one of the greatest shooters of all time but when
you put it in context of his size his ability to move he could really shoot
don't get me wrong but he can shoot off the dribble off the catch he can this is
best basketball player of all time? Michael Jordan, for me.
Is that because you're old?
Maybe.
Because that's what everybody says, right?
Everybody says, like,
well, you're just saying Michael Jordan
because you had that opinion
before LeBron got the player, before...
I'm definitely biased.
But you're Steve Nash, too.
But having said that, you know,
Michael Jordan averaged, what, 36 points a game
multiple years in an era
where you could absolutely hammer people.
The game was slower. We shot way less threes.
So if you adjusted his numbers in today's game, he'd be completely...
He was always obviously unguardable, but he'd be unbelievable in his competitiveness, his fire.
Everyone in the league was scared of him.
You know, like, legit.
Like, I played against him early in my career, and everyone was kind of like,
there was reverence, right, that I've never seen for anyone else in the league.
Then or since.
Then or since.
And then I think just looking at the rules, the way the rules have changed
and where you can't touch people anymore.
And it's made the game open and fast and fun and I love it.
But put Jordan
in today's era.
He was averaging 36
in an era where
you could ball people.
I have a question.
Put LeBron in that era though.
LeBron would be great
in any era.
He's unreal.
Like,
this is not a slight
against LeBron.
How do you feel
about him trying to
trademark Taco Tuesday?
That's kind of bad.
It takes some balls.
I did not.
It's been around a while.
I like it, though.
I mean, that's a power move by a power player.
Look, I mean, look how many ways LeBron's influenced and changed the sport.
He's done a lot of things that has influenced a generation,
and you've got to tip your hat to a guy like that who's made power move after power move for some reason
I'm remembering you shooting a free throw on my television late night you
were with Dallas and you had been working on your shot I think with Dirk
is that something that happened to your career I mean we were completely changed
the way you shot though I think no that's not true well the commentator
lied to me research Research, yes.
No, that was real research.
That was real research.
It was, what was in the pipe that night?
That was something, yeah, true.
Yeah, big dream about,
it changed the shot up.
What teammates of yours, though,
did affect the way you played games?
Was there anybody that changed the way you played?
Well, I mean, look, I came into the league,
and my rookie year I played with Kevin Johnson and Jason Kidd.
And it was a guy that was a first-round pick,
but people were thinking, you know, maybe he'll be a steady pro.
And so I got a chance to play with those guys,
compete against them in practice, watch them,
the belief, the competitiveness they had,
and then proving to them that I belong was huge because they would then show so much confidence in me and tell me the sky's
the limit, that it was pivotal.
So that was, you know, early on was two guys that I played with that had an impact on me.
But you're also impacted, obviously, by your teammates, the way they play. play so dirk and i mike finley had a great relationship for six years um where we played a
certain style under nelly and then i went to dallas and played with an incredibly athletic
team amari stoudemire sean marion hey that shot's weird now sean had a different shot but you could
have a different shot when you're faster and jump higher than anyone in the world.
You shoot however you want.
Steve, I would like to drop 40 points in a celebrity all-star game.
Okay.
To do that, I'm going to need to work on my game a bit.
To become an elite scorer, as a consultant to a team of elite
scorers, Golden State Warriors, what's the first thing I should work on?
Well, I haven't seen you play, so it's...
I got a jumper, Steve. Just know that I got a jumper.
If you can shoot, okay, that's a big, big start. You know, I don't want to make any
judgments, but like, how's the mobility? You know, how's the movement?
I go three-point line, 3-point line.
We're playing zone defense.
Hash marks.
Yeah, now we're talking.
Look at that.
A little football reference.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I think you're going to struggle if you're going hash mark to hash mark.
You know, like, if you can't get in for a bunny once in a while, it's hard to get 40,
especially in an all-star game.
You know, you got to, I mean, let's count it out.
If you're going hash mark the hash mark you
legit got to make like a lot of threes yeah 13 of them 14 of them. If you're not
going to the line you're not getting in there for a couple bunnies you know what
if teammates freeze you out a little bit what if what if a guy covers you face
guards you nobody can cover me Steve the I'm can cover me, Steve. I'm elusive. I'm not explosive.
I'm elusive.
I've always talked about the five-point play.
It's not done enough.
Hit the three, get fouled, miss the free throw off the front of the rim,
get your own board, put back easy.
I'm going to stack up a couple five-point plays,
and then that's how we get going in the 40.
Maybe use the toe curve and put that one into play. Yeah, it'd be good.
I'd like to see your shot.
I'm a little curious now.
You just think you're going to nail a three, get fouled,
miss, get the offensive rebound.
Or a guy that doesn't even go inside
the hash mark. Well, you got to get dirty
every once in a while. Okay, we'll see.
Steve, you haven't even played in five years,
so I don't even want to hear from you. This is true. This is true. Steve, you haven't even played in five years, all right? So I don't even want to hear it from you.
This is true.
This is true.
I legit haven't.
Your life in L.A., are you a businessman
other than consulting?
Do you have any businesses?
Yeah, a little bit.
I have a content company,
Control Media.
I have a little ownership
in the Vancouver Whitecaps
and the MLS
and Real Mallorca.
I play in La Liga in Spain.
Spanish soccer, yeah.
So a few things. You know, I'm involved in a home court app.
Have you ever heard of it?
It's an incredible app that tracks your basketball workouts.
So on the camera on your phone through the app,
it can tell you, you know, filming your workout, makes, misses, range,
release time, hip depth all
these variables that are so much more important than just makes and misses
analytic in analytically showing you know one how you perform how you train
but trends where you need to improve you can also have like in real time it
telling you if you're like,
I want to quicken my release,
it'll tell you how long your release was after you let every shot go.
Really?
So you can know how to speed it up.
So it's an incredible, incredible piece of technology,
an incredible app.
What's that called?
Home Court.
So that's how I scored 40 in the Celebrity Homestore.
See?
See now or think?
I did the research.
I knew you had that.
I thought that was going to be the answer.
Consultant of the year, I think.
How did you get involved in that?
Somebody brought it to you?
Yeah, they brought it to me and asked me what I thought of it.
And I was blown away by the technology.
But really what made it for me an incredible opportunity was the body mapping.
They weren't quite sure, I don't think, what to do with it yet.
But they were starting to map your movements
by the camera
can recognize your body
and your movements.
And for me,
that's meaningful feedback
when you can tell a player
what his body's doing
when he's shooting
because makes or misses
is only one indicator, right?
But if you want to get better
and better and better
and play at a higher
and higher level,
you have to move well,
you have to have your body
in the right position
or else as the speed
of the game,
you know, ramps up, your technique either won't be good enough for a fall apart so that was what really drew me in and excited me and they've been taking it uh to new
levels you know a quarterly almost and it's fun to watch quarterly that sounds like an investor
yeah you know hey things are going well this core. Q2 was a good one, Steve.
I downloaded the email. What's your content
company? It's called Control Media.
What do you do? We've done
Are you hands-on in there?
Yeah. We do a lot of
digital. We do a lot of stuff with
Bleacher Report.
We directed a 30 for 30.
We have had a few. We directed a 30 for 30. We have had a few.
We did a doc series
for Grantland ESPN.
That's awesome.
We did a,
actually we did a 30 for 30
called Into the Wind.
It was about Terry Fox,
a Canadian hero
who lost his leg to cancer
and ran across the country.
Steve.
Yeah, you gotta check it out.
It's great.
It's a,
not,
we're proud of the film
but it's really all about
Terry Fox
who's a
you know he's
as big a figure
as we have
in this country
it's like
Terry Fox
Wayne Gretzky
no Steve
I'm gonna tell you this
we got a guy named Gumpy
he's painting ships
got a good beard
incredible Canadian accent
I like it
bet you he knows Terry Fox
he's from
Victoria
where you're from.
You're his Jesus.
You are. Whenever we
told him that we were talking to you, he was
very excited. He was like, same hometown.
That's my guy. You're the guy.
He came to see Marshawn.
You came to see Marshawn. He came to see you.
Fair enough.
Steve, I can't thank you enough
for your time. Do you believe in aliens?
Not really, no.
Wouldn't be surprised, but no, I'm not.
Well, you can't just back off of your answer like that.
Like, no, I don't believe them.
Possible, though.
I mean, I can.
That's my answer.
I can do whatever I want.
I absolutely can.
How about Bigfoot? Meh. I'm out on Bigfoot. I'm How about Bigfoot?
Meh.
I'm out on Bigfoot.
I'm out on Bigfoot.
We have a legend in British Columbia, the Sasquatch.
You ever heard of it?
Yeah, Bigfoot.
Is it the same guy?
Yeah.
I think it's the same guy.
Did Sasquatch exist?
Wait, am I getting my Bigfoots mixed up?
They're all the same.
What's the other one?
There's another couple other names.
Yeti.
Yeti.
Embominable Snowman.
Yeah, Embominable Snowman.
That's Disney, isn't it?
No, it's real life.
Oh, okay.
Because Sasquatch for sure is real.
Favorite shows?
Oh, good one.
What am I watching right now?
Are you a binge guy?
I will.
It's good.
What am I watching right now?
Are you a binge guy?
I will.
It's good.
Right now, we're watching, my wife and I, we just finished Euphoria.
We're watching Succession.
But I like a lot of the recent classics.
Come on, name a few.
Recent classics?
Sandy by Adam Sandler?
No, I mean like Breaking Bad.
Oh, okay, yes.
Like Mad Men.
Got it.
You know, The Wire.
What's that?
Better Call Saul.
Better Call Saul is fantastic, yes.
Love it.
Fantastic.
I've never seen any of those, but... You're missing out.
You've seen Mindhunter?
I guess Mindhunter is this new one. I've never seen it. I've watched... You're missing out. You've seen Mindhunter? I guess Mindhunter's this new one.
I've never seen it.
I watched season one.
I guess it's the thing.
I like season one, David Fincher.
Just threw a little director, producer name at you there.
I'm in the industry.
Have you won any awards for any of your content?
Like, have you gone out there and given a speech?
No.
But actually, you know, we're in Toronto,
and TIFF is, you know,
one of the top two, three film festivals in the world.
Our 30 for 30 premiered at TIFF about eight years ago.
Not easy to get in?
Cool experience.
Yeah, it is.
Did you have to give a speech or not?
I paid a lot of money.
To get it in?
No, I'm just kidding.
ESPN, you know, they...
I don't know. I don't know how they did it. They probably bribed someone I'm just kidding. ESPN, you know, they... I don't know.
I don't know how they did it.
They probably bribed someone.
DAZN, ESPN,
they'll get you in
where you need to get to.
DAZN, definitely.
And you're Steve Nash.
Look, I'm wearing the shirt.
And I saw you greet
Marshawn Lynch
in front of 200,000 Skittles
today, Dan.
That's true.
That was interesting.
How'd you feel about that?
It was...
I mean, it was cool.
It was funny seeing Marshawn
and all these Skittles. But then when it was like. It was funny seeing Marshawn and all these skittles,
but then when it was like, it was like, whoa, and then it was like, that's it? What the hell are we
gonna do now? But, I mean, better Marshawn than me. Well, Steve, I knew a lot about you before
this interview. I feel like I know exponentially more.
Glad to hear it.
And I'm going to buy your jersey.
Would you rather it be the Phoenix one, the Dallas one, or the L.A. one?
Probably got to go Phoenix.
Roots.
My best years, my 10 years there.
That was back when the Suns, you guys were good.
Yeah, we were.
Yeah, like pretty relevant basketball teams. Yeah. We were legit. We had some good teams. Yeah, like pretty relevant basketball teams.
Yeah. We had some good teams, yeah. We were knocking on the door, still knocking. Phoenix,
great basketball town. It is, yeah. Need to get back to winning. Yeah, it would be fun if they could get a winner back. Big three. You ever think about playing in the big three?
I was, no, I could not entertain that. My body is not.
You know, the other thing for me, the big three, I love it.
I hope all those guys are having fun and do well.
It's 10 weekends in a row in the summer.
And they're traveling, too.
You know, everywhere else, like five kids, zero chance.
What are the ages, sir?
I'm a 10-week-old and a twin 14-year-old girls.
So a little tiny baby and then two girls that entered high school this week.
So it's a good range.
Well, congrats on all that.
I don't know if you're going to get any sixth man of the year babies.
Are you going to have any more?
No, we don't want to expand the squad.
The cap, the cap is a hard cap right now.
I'm not paying the luxury tax, that's for sure.
DAZN is your home for all NFL football in Canada, all Premier League.
Champions League.
Champions League. A lot of great content. Hopefully we'll be able to sign Steve Nash's
content company to make something. But going forward, I want this to be known.
My favorite Canadian?
Tim Horton.
My second favorite Canadian?
Steve Nash.
Wow.
Ladies and gentlemen, 18 King Timmy, by the way.
That's pretty big.
He's been taking care of us everywhere we go.
Tim Horton's literally every half a block.
Ubiquitous.
I'm not even sure if that's the right word.
You used holistic earlier. I didn't know what the hell that meant either. It's a block. Ubiquitous. I'm not even sure if that's the right word. You used holistic earlier.
I didn't know what the hell that meant either.
It's all right.
Educated man.
Incredible basketball player.
Canadian hero.
International treasure.
This is a long outro.
Steve Nash.
Thanks.
Thank you, man.
Appreciate you.
Good luck.
Learned a lot about him in there, boys. Learned a lot about him in there, boys.
Learned a lot about him in there.
Probably should have done more research before the conversation.
But I feel that if I don't know anything about the person,
this has happened a couple times,
I asked the questions that people who maybe never have heard of him
were thinking while listening
and I think that could have potentially happened today although Steve Nash is a Canadian
legend an American treasure all these things 18 years in the NBA a long time I'm sure there's a
lot of people don't know a lot about him right and just gotten Mark B in that category until
that conversation I feel like I know everything about the guy i tried to show him a video on my shooting form afterwards and the canadian uh internet didn't
let it go it got froze right here he said looks good from the start and froze ain't walked away
because you know what i'll get steve nash to critique my jumper again in the future i'm sure
absolutely big thanks to canada's Wi-Fi where we were.
What is that?
It's an international thing.
It just slows down our service because we're in Canada.
Yeah, because they're on, like you have Verizon, don't you?
Yeah.
There are not that many Verizon towers up here,
but they have agreements with like other companies.
They just throttle the shit out of your data.
So when we come up here, I think it's half a gig,
which we blow through in 30 minutes at the office, like doing just whatever we do.
So they just charge you five bucks every time you do that.
Can't wait to see what this comes out to be.
Would have been willing to pay for it, by the way, if Steve Nash could have gave me some critiques on my jumper.
Couldn't do it.
But other than that, our time has been fantastic up here. Speaking of fantastic, this is probably going to be something
that makes me double down on my theory
that I should never do stand-up again.
Bill Burr has another stand-up special.
Oh, let's go.
And they have sent us a clip.
Look at this.
Hey, I feel like we're really on the come-up right now.
We got a clip,
sample, trailer, teaser,
whatever you want to call it. and gentlemen paper tiger i'm a married man with a kid but i'll tell you this right now if i've learned
anything in five years of being married is we're always working on me i just think to myself like
what could my wife complain about i fucking crush everything I pick up after myself. I like to think I'm a good dad. I work my ass off and make a great fucking living.
Crush all of that.
All she has on me is who I am as a person.
My daughter has yet to meet the real me.
She's seen glimpses of me like,
oh, daddy almost snapped his bone in half.
I feel like I can be brave tonight and share this with you.
Robot sex dolls, they're gonna fuck us into extinction.
Stephen Hawking, you never did anything positive to say.
The Me Too movement, white male privilege, hipsters.
I'm a male feminist.
By the way, this is gonna be my last show ever.
By the time this fucking thing comes out.
Old Billy Boy, the best.
He's so good.
Hasn't lost his touch.
To be obnoxiously transparent and candid here,
I have not heard the trailer yet. That laugh was just assuming that he was funny,
which everybody should do.
Bill Burr has built up enough cred with his brain
that on September 10th,
please watch Paper Tiger exclusively on Netflix
because it'll be incredible.
That's just what Bill Burr does.
And, by the way, I made him laugh.
That's right.
I made him laugh at Rough and Rowdy.
That is a highlight
I almost put that
as my twitter bio
made Bill Burr
cackle
anyways
you all are the best
enjoy this
we're giving away
an Escalade next week
Canada's like that
they have a real accent
up here
we listened to two people
last night
have a little bit of a debate
on who was going to
buy who a beer
it was two guys.
And it was the most friendly shit talk
I've ever heard in my entire life.
I asked Gumpy what's going on.
Gumpy replies with,
I hate Toronto.
It's just not true.
Gumpy, that's what you said.
All I said was
there's way too many suits.
There is a lot of suits here.
Too many people who think
they're important.
Wow, he just did it again.
He just did it again.
Just laid back West Coast attitude.
Exactly.
West Coast here.
We asked Gumpy today, while shooting with Steve Nash and Marshawn Lynch,
that you listened to just a little bit ago.
I had to cut a little bit of a promo for DAZN, and it being the official home for NFL football exclusive on DAZN in Canada.
So I just wanted a little piece of information about Canada for this promo to do well.
I go in a room full of 20 people because they had us packed in there like sardines.
Yeah.
It was a room how big?
Probably 6 feet by 15 feet.
That might be awful generous. Like 6 by 10 maybe. It? probably 6 feet by 15 feet that might be awful generous
like 6 by 10 maybe
6 by 10
and half of it was dedicated to various equipment
and cameras
they were very much
prepared for today's shoot
I will say that
I very much appreciate the DAZN people
I thank you so much
for wanting somebody to make sure they oversee everything so it goes well we are thankful to be a part of the DAZN people. I thank you so much for wanting somebody to make sure they oversee everything so it goes well.
We are thankful to be a part of the DAZN network and kind of chit-chat and have high-quality shit.
But boy, that was a small room with a lot of people packed in there.
And I guess there were some other locals because I wanted to get a little piece of information about Canada.
I go, Gumpy, what's the most western province of Canada and the most eastern province of Canada?
And Gumpy goes, pow, British Columbia and Ontario.
And before he could even get Ontario out, which is the current province we're in,
four other Canadians yelled at him and just fucking talked down to him
as if he was the dumbest Canadian ever.
It really happened.
It's tough. It's tough.
It's tough.
New Finland was the correct answer.
I don't want to go to New Finland.
But that's, I mean.
What are they called?
Newfies.
They usually have one eye that's straight and the other one's way the hell over there.
They're called Newfies?
If you get a chance to look up what a Newfie accent is, you'll have a laugh.
That's like the South Park accent, isn't it?
Yeah.
Like, hey, buddy, hey.
That's the Newfies?
I'll tell you what, man.
Canada's an interesting place.
This city, Toronto, we were just here a couple weeks ago with WWE.
Very clean, very quiet, and you can just walk around smoking weed everywhere.
They got to figure it out.
They do.
I think it's because everybody's high.
That's why it's so quiet.
I mean, Nick got high last night and couldn't even fucking order.
I had to think about a lot of things that had come to Jesus last night
with some of the vitamins up here.
Got a lot of them.
This place called The Honey Pot.
And you heard me and Marshawn talk about it earlier.
They've got a lot of my business.
And I've only been here twice.
Regular now.
Three levels.
It is.
There's three stories to it.
It's like an Apple store, but just for cannabis.
That's a great way to describe it.
Because it really was.
You walked up and everything was out on a little display shelf.
Real fancy, too.
They spared no expense.
Good lighting, too.
People forget how expensive good lighting is.
Good lighting in there.
Usually you want to move stuff.
Dim lighting.
Hide the deficiencies.
These guys, no.
It was all on display.
You could look at whatever you wanted.
There's no shady stuff.
And they would come over with their iPad.
Well, what do you need?
What do you need?
The dude had pink hair that weighed on us.
He did. That was a pretty cool scene. He also had do you need? What do you need? The dude had pink hair that weighed on us. He did.
That was a pretty cool scene.
He also had a major league coughing fit while you were talking to him.
I think he was getting high on the supply in the back area.
He did almost die.
Yeah, he did.
Yeah, I saw that.
He did almost die.
But we bought a bunch of stuff.
Sam and I were just sitting outside on literally the stairs outside the hotel just smoking,
sitting there.
It's a wild scene up here.
It's weird.
And in America, in a couple states, you go to jail for a long time for doing that. Yeah, it almost It's a wild scene up here. It's weird. And then in America, a couple states,
you go to jail for a long time for doing that.
Yeah, it almost feels guilty when you do it here.
Yeah, Sam was trying to dip into an alley last night.
Four or five different times holding my hand,
sees an alley, goes to take a hit,
goes to hide almost,
and then she has a full, like,
oh my God, you're allowed to do it here.
Yeah.
Ty and a guy shared the same puff of smoke, basically.
Yeah, like, he
saw me smoking and
directly came up and tried to inhale my
going for a free hit.
I didn't.
Oh, that's his thing.
And I mean, Nick just did it.
Nick just took a massive cloud to
everybody's feet. Guilty.
Alright. But no, they don't care.
Canada's awesome. Thank you to Canada.
All of Canada. And if you're listening
in Canada, football can
be found on the zone.
On the zone. That's D-A-
Z-N.
They had a commercial
a long time ago with Michael Buffer
where he was just screaming.
Oh, we met Kiprios.
Oh, my God.
DAZN.
D-A-Z-N.
That's where all our live shows are going to be.
All the videos from these podcasts are going to be there.
We're going to be posting them everywhere.
And I think it's, yeah, everything's going to be available.
I'm excited.
Can we have a link?
Yeah, we'll have a link.
Okay, good.
And that link provides you with special access, Foxy.
Use that link.
Use that link.
Oh, also, fun fact.
Oh, I announced this at the beginning of the podcast, obviously, which we haven't recorded yet.
Right.
Giving away a car on Monday.
Giving away a car on Monday, first live radio show, giving away a car.
Do we know what type of car it is yet?
Absolutely not.
Have we purchased a car yet to give away?
Absolutely not.
But it will be a car.
A nice operating car.
A reliable vehicle.
Yeah, like you'll actually want to drive it.
It's not going to be like a Zito's car.
It might be an Escalade. I don't know yet. I have to sleep on that. Yours? actually want to drive it's not going to be like a uh it's not going to be zito's car right it's
not going to it might be an escalate i don't know yet i have to sleep on that yours the moldy one
no not the black mold one and my uh the other one oh okay mike see i'm not certain so that's
that's the big thing it's just been sitting it's just been sitting for a couple years in my
driveway still a car though Have to give it away.
Yeah.
I mean, what do I mean?
That's a cat.
Whole first week.
You watch the whole first week of live radio shows and listen.
The whole first week of live radio shows, we'll give code word.
Get all five code words.
Somehow you enter in for a chance to win my Escalade.
Yeah, we thought that through, didn't we?
I mean, that is extremely
gracious of you. We didn't just come up with that
right here on the spot.
The whole plane ride here we were talking about.
At least. Like maybe even the last
plane ride too. We didn't stop us talking through
customs so we could figure it out. That's right.
The Border Patrol guy,
big fan of the show, great hair.
Yeah, he did have good hair.
Wanted to replace, no, wanted to join alongside Gumby, I believe.
I think he would have taken it.
If I had to lose a job already, he would have taken it.
Jesus, pal.
I talked to pals.
Anyways, we're giving away an escort.
We've been preparing for a long time. I talked to Gum. Anyways, we're giving away an escort. We've been preparing for a long time.
I talked to Gumpy's parents today.
Really?
Via FaceTime.
Good people.
His dad, classic.
Mom, sweet lady, sweet lady.
Very nice lady.
She said, you took my little boy.
Or whatever.
And I said, it hasn't been easy.
I mean, we talked about immigration a little bit.
And then the dad,
legend of a man,
arms over his head
like this,
laying down.
As obvious,
he was looking at something
that was incredible.
Just staring into the sky.
Yeah.
He was an incredible guy.
I learned a lot about
company today
if you were on FaceTime
with his parents.
We've been back to your homeland
here for a little bit.
A lot going on
back in America though.
Merrill Hodge
buried Antonio Brown. I just read a quote. That was a tough one. A lot going on back in America, though. Merrill Hodge buried Antonio Brown.
I just read a quote.
That was a tough one.
Antonio Brown's
got a new helmet.
I guess on Hard Knocks
his teammates were making
fun of the new helmet.
Now Merrill Hodge
is burying AB.
AB's getting fined
$54,000 from the Raiders
for missing
mandatory things.
By the way,
that kind of happens.
It's kind of what happens in the NFL.
You just don't go to stuff.
You get fined for stuff.
Mike, that's just kind of how things go.
Whenever they announced that he just left training camp,
I was very confused.
I was like, I didn't know you could just do that.
I didn't know middle of training camp.
You know what?
Fuck it.
I'm going to get out of here.
I'm sick of sleeping in his dorm room, pissing
in his public pisser, sweating every minute of the day, and doing nothing while everybody
else seems to be working very hard. I'm just going to go home for a couple of days. That's
not how it works. I would expect that he would have been fine for that if the Raiders didn't
give him the okay. I assume their situations were Mike Mayock. Who's the bad cop in this situation, by the way?
Clearly Gruden.
They had a game plan.
Good cop, Gruden.
Bad cop, Mayock.
Mayock said, you're either all in or all out.
He's the one fining him $40,000 and then $13,900 and some.
But he would assume if you're just going to leave training camp
that the GM would be like, yeah, you can do that.
But if he doesn't okay it, you have to expect that you're going to get fired.
I don't even know how that is even.
One of the stories that came out after the whole.
I like Antonio Brown, too, by the way.
Yeah.
One of the stories that came out after the whole blowup in Pittsburgh was that he didn't actually stay with the team at camp,
that he had a separate house off campus, that they kind of made special accommodations for him during camps.
I respect that.
If you can get that.
Yeah, sure.
Right.
That's a great move.
You're a veteran guy.
You're one of the best players in the league.
Sure.
But there is something about being in the dorm.
I had a room that was right next to the lobby on the main floor.
Whenever you're young, they're higher up in ours.
And then you kind of gradually go down from like the third floor or second floor to the first floor and then the basement is where they had
like sweets down yeah okay so the basement was where like Vinatieri was
frene your own room what's that the bunk your own room no no no when you're young
you do but then as you move down you kind of get your own room and I I think
I had the option one year to go to the basement and I refused I stayed at the room that was right by the lobby where everybody hung out at
a lot of foot traffic yeah and I would just sit in there I had like a recliner that I rented from
like the rent-a-center down the street I had a tv and basically these people would be coming out of
these meetings these guys and they just got their dicks kicked in. And then they had to go to these two hours worth of meetings, watching every single step
that they took to make sure they took the right step on film in slow motion with a laser
pointer.
Oh, see, you took a half a step left here.
That's what's going to cost people jobs.
Literally, every step they're taking is getting over analyzed and judged and then i'm already
back in my room by the time they're coming out of meetings so they come out of meetings they
walk through the thing they're trying to get to their rooms wherever it is through the opening
lobby i'm like boys what's going on and then they would just come in and sit down and it would be
just like a crew of like eight or nine people in there. And then it would just flush out.
And then the next like position group would come through.
And it was just a hilarious way for me to pass time in training camp.
So I don't think I would want to be staying.
Like if we're all going to be miserable, we should be miserable.
But, man, if you can get your own – he rented a house.
I mean I rented a recliner.
I respect that.
You'd think being with a new team, too, you'd want to kind of get to know guys and not
come in and have everyone on the team think,
oh, this guy's a pre-gadon prick, just like we thought he was.
Well, you would think, because that label was
attached to him, rightly or wrongly, whatever you want
to believe, coming out, and it's like,
okay, here it is. Here's your chance to prove everybody wrong.
Doesn't show up for camp.
How many games do you think he played? He showed up for camp.
He showed up in a hot air balloon.
48 minutes away from camp.
We all saw it.
We all saw it.
And the fact that he just left, though, is wild to me.
Because he even said to Gruden on Hard Knocks,
which I'm sure wasn't for the camera,
but he said, like, hey, I gotta show these guys
what they got on this team,
because he wanted to practice
even when his feet were bad or whatever.
So I think he does have that, like,
wanna prove himself type thing.
But it does seem to be all the shit,
you know what I mean?
Diggs sent me a text after that fine of 53,000 came out.
Oh, combined fines of 50 whatever,000, whatever, $53,900 or something.
He's a noted Antonio Brown lover.
Anthony DiGilio digs.
He's a diehard Pittsburgh Steelers fan.
Hates everything about him.
He said, I wonder how that fucking guy feels about that million-dollar watch now.
Did you think $53,000 is anything to Antonio Brown?
That is what I'm intrigued by that he posted it almost to like it feels
like that was to stir the pot a little bit you know and I wonder how Mike by
the way Mike Mayock hand signing that thing pretty impressive stuff his M was
a very interesting curse of him too wasn't it did you see his I didn't study
it no you're here right I looked at I didn't study it. No, you're a handwriting guy.
I looked at it.
I looked at it.
I was like, okay.
He like took his time.
Like whenever you saw that, he like, I think he licked the pen.
Like 13,900 more coming, motherfucker.
Here's a question.
Is it a story or are we talking about it at all if he doesn't post that?
No.
Nope.
But he didn't find
yeah
no because
we wouldn't
know right
exactly
so it's
like why
even
not a lot
of people
talk about
their finds
by the way
I talk about
mine
not a lot
of people
do
I think it's
to the point
now where he
just needs
the attention
whether it's
good or bad
do you think
it's him
running it
or somebody
else
oh it's
him
probably
I read
the
yeah
I like
Antonio
Brown as a football player, man.
He shook the shit out of me.
I tackled him too, by the way.
That never gets talked about.
The only highlight they ever show is him just shaking the absolute shit out of me
in front of 35 to 40 of my family members.
In the fourth quarter of a game, we were down 30, and why are we punting?
Anyways, I like him on the football field.
I always thought it was potentially not his fault in Pittsburgh.
I thought he had a big personality, but they couldn't handle it.
But now it's to the point where it's like, come on, man.
Like, I'm just waiting for games to come back so he can just put up a quick 180.
And all this is forgotten.
Exactly.
If he goes out and scores two touchdowns week one.
Which he will.
Yeah, no one's going to give a shit.
He'll probably throw a touchdown. He'll probably run one, and he'll probably catch one. Which he will. Yeah, no one's going to give a shit. He'll probably throw a touchdown.
He'll probably run one.
And he'll probably catch one.
That's just.
And he's so good at football.
That's why you kind of just got to like bite the bullet.
I think that's what Gruden's like.
Yeah, we just got to deal with this man.
Let's just give him a fucking helmet.
Let's just.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I bet you Gruden's probably losing patience too.
I'd assume.
Hey, it brings him into the office.
Imagine Dan Gruden calling Antonio Brown in about posting the picture of the
fine on his IG story, knowing that it would,
what would Coach Gruden say, you think, to him?
I mean, just can't fucking have it, man.
Just can't be doing it, you know.
Just get your goddamn helmet on, get out there,
and let's play some fucking football, man.
Okay?
All right?
Yeah, but Coach, Coach, I thought you were on my side
doing this whole thing.
It was Mayock, Big Bad Mayock that was really being mean to me.
Well, yeah, but if you're going to be acting like a candy ass about it,
you know, posting on Instagram and social media,
then fuck it, I'm done with you, man.
All right?
We need guys that want to be here.
I'll bring Keelan Doss' ass back, all right?
Just cut his ass.
You think, I mean, get with it, man.
Knock on wood if you're with me.
You think Antonio Brown has knocked once on the wood?
No.
They always show him.
He's sitting in the back just, like, fucking staring up at the ceiling.
That is an interesting thing because you see people, like, put their hand in for a break or whatever.
And you'll see people, like, talking in the back who aren't in the like anytime they'll do uh they're like a drone shot
or an outside shot of a group how to win football and they always show like the people that are in
the back just talking to each other my first initial thought is like ah not all in those
people aren't all in right there they don't even care what's going on there and then it reminded me like every game day after the warm-ups on the field you jog inside to the
tunnel you jog inside of the locker room they do some show and then a highlight reel and then
something and then you come back out right so it's after warm-ups before you come back out
i would always hit like two punts because i had to sit for 30 minutes after actually warming up
to watch everybody else warm up and i'm like all punts because I had to sit for 30 minutes after actually warming up to watch everybody else
warm up
and I'm like
alright I'm going to
try to warm up again
and they would always
gather in the end zone
in this big huddle
and I would always
get there late
because me and Vinny
were on the bench
so we're always in the back
and I would always
have to look up
at the jumbotron
to see what was happening
inside the huddle
in front of me
because I had just
fucking massive men
standing in front of me
like jumping
and like going crazy and it would be Robert Matheson they're like yeah yeah we're like fucking kill him you
know and I'm like yeah like screaming from the back not a single word is heard the guy was already
done speaking I forget who it was and I was in the middle of a asshole yell and I had like five
of my teammates turn around and look at me like, what the fuck are you doing? I thought we were going crazy.
I thought we were – that's on me.
It was like Costanza.
I think like Costanza did like a slow turn.
And he was like, Max, what the fuck are you doing?
I was like, I missed the – I misread the whole thing.
Let's just put our hands in.
Team?
We doing team or not?
Let's get the fuck out of here.
Those things are so incredible to me.
I wonder who's going to win it all this year.
How do the Chiefs not win it all?
I don't think their defense is good enough.
It's Francesa's pitch.
Mike Francesa also picked, what, slack?
And it just plummeted.
Oh, man.
That's tough.
Who sent that text?
Todd?
Diggs.
Diggs.
Stock.
Tony Stocks.
Tony Stocks.
Diggs sent a picture of slack stock plummeting,
what since Francesca said Bennett.
Literally the day he said it has plummeted the stock.
But he also said this is a 20-year play.
He did.
He didn't say this is just a marathon.
Ride the ebbs and flows.
That's right.
Is he here?
He just sold his... Listen, okay.
It's still a blue chip stock.
We've hit a...
Now, we have hit a bit of a rough patch.
But, like I said,
you put
your salary in here,
plus another 25%,
you put your kids
in your car.
Stick with Slack. It it's gonna be fine
and you're not talking about zoom which I also
said was gonna be huge
which it has it's gone up a couple points
oh my god
he sounds like I've
everybody who does an impression of me
makes it sound like I have rocks in my head
you know what he said?
Yeah.
You know, I was actually a magna cum laude.
Just like John's, but, you know,
people don't want to talk about it.
They don't want to talk about it.
I enjoy that human, man.
I enjoy him a lot.
All these characters, characters,
I'm learning about later in life.
Boy, I have a good run with them, man.
I really am.
Francesca's my current one.
I will sit down and watch clips of him
just one after another after another.
And they're not all haters,
but man, every once in a while he'll say something
that just makes me belly laugh.
And that's a cool feeling
whenever it's just you, your phone,
and taking a shit,
and you're just dying laughing.
And you're just wondering
what the people in the hotel room
next to you are like.
And I just want to tell them like,
yeah, Francesa just told a guy
to go fuck himself.
Basically.
It's going to be interesting
taking calls
for the live radio show next week.
Gumpy's going to be answering the phones.
Mm-hmm.
Brr, brr.
Hello?
Oh, man.
Oh, for one.
Hey, pal. Hey, one. Hey, pal.
Hey, pal.
Hey, pal.
How you doing, pal?
I don't know whether to go A or hey.
How would you?
I think I'd just go hey, but I think it sounds like A.
Right.
I think you just speak.
Just go with it.
Do anything but say hello.
Well, you just did.
It was just a warm-up.
I wonder how many calls we're going to get. I don't fucking hang up. Well, you just did. Just warm up, man. I'm wearing my thrills.
I wonder how many calls we're going to get.
And have we figured out the tech for the calls?
Can we take calls yet?
We will be able to in Indy for sure with, like, the full switchboard.
In the truck, we should be able to, but not, like, it'll be much harder to get on the show calling on the truck than
it will be when we're in Indy.
So next week, that'll be Thursday, Friday in Wake Forest, Winston-Salem.
Tim McAfee's box truck studio will be making a debut.
The Chiefs are going to win it all, though.
I very much believe that.
Nope, I don't, because Tom Brady's still playing football.
And the Indianapolis Colts are going to be
a good football team. I watched the
Indianapolis Colts Twitter. They posted
a video from practice today.
Jacoby Brissett threw a rope
to Funches across this middle
and the whole
team went crazy. I think they're
feeling themselves. I think the Colts are in a good
spot. They've really come together. It's going to be
a great year here.
We're giving fans what we want to do. healing themselves. I think the Colts are in a good spot. They've really come together. It's going to be a great year here for,
we're giving fans what we wanted,
you know?
Mm-hmm.
Firefell season 100.
Shout out Nate Burleson.
I heard that rap song today.
It's not easy
to put a rap song together.
No.
That is PG,
right?
Ray Smith was able to do it,
won a bunch of Oscars. Yeah. No, actually, he hasn't won an Oscar yet do it won a bunch of uh oscars yeah no actually he won a grammy
maybe two but you get it the music one we were talking about his music yeah you respect those
right grammys yeah of course especially will smith's no i mean he won he won the first one
for rap so there's something to be said for that. That was a long, long time ago.
I mean, what's his deal?
The Bad Boys trailer came out.
I was going to say, yeah, the Bad Boys trailer.
Does it look awesome?
I mean, it's what you'd want.
Oh, it's going to be awesome.
Yeah.
They're going to be so fun.
I'd rather watch Hobbs and Shaw.
Well, yeah, the world is watching.
The world is watching.
We're way past what Bad Boys 3 can do now.
We're into bigger and better things.
Why didn't you do that to Martin Lawrence?
I understand.
I love Martin Lawrence.
Oh, do you?
You want his movie to fail.
You want his comeback to fail.
He does not look good in the trailer.
Easy.
He doesn't.
I was hoping.
I mean, it's just Will Smith looks like the guy from 2003.
Martin Lawrence, man, looks like he was about 45 years ago.
You can't compare him to Will, though.
They're like the same age.
That's what I'm saying.
Will Smith has kept his physique.
Martin Lawrence has been living.
He's been through a lot.
Has he?
Yeah.
Been on some rough times.
What has he been doing?
Jesus, why are you burying him right now?
I love Martin Lawrence.
Run, tell dad.
Great.
But God damn, man. I mean, he knew
he was going to be on the big screen again.
We could tighten the bottom.
Listen to Ty
body shaming Martin Lawrence.
This is unbelievable. It's just because I
care. It's because I love the guy.
In his defense,
like, bad boys three, all the build
up all these years,
you probably should tighten it up.
Yeah, but what has Martin Lawrence been doing?
He's been living on it.
He's got so much money, I bet.
Yeah, I'd assume so.
Just been living comfortable.
Gone fat and giggly, you know?
He'll be back, bro. Wait until Bad Boys 4.
He's going to be fucking jumping over buildings again.
Don't you worry about Martin Lawrence.
Let's see how this one goes before we talk about Bad Boys 4.
It's going to do well. Will Smith and Martin about Bad Boys 4. It's going to do well.
Will Smith and Martin Lawrence
are in it.
It's going to do good.
We'll see.
Do you think Hobbs and Shaw
was going to do good?
Yeah, I knew it was
going to do good.
It's an easy one.
By the way,
I didn't know
how it was going to do
with nine months
of marketing.
But the movie crushed,
especially worldwide.
I think it's up
over like 700 million.
Yep.
Hey, The Rock got married too.
He's his own best man.
Things are going good for Dwayne Johnson.
You like that move?
I don't know.
I am honestly, I am a bit indifferent.
He said all the spirits and the people of his past were up there with him,
which I can respect.
Where's everyone in his current life though
what are they doing
do you think he's got a friend
who was very disappointed
that he wasn't
he was probably still sleeping
he got married at like 7am
but let's also think about this
does he live in Hawaii full time
no
no I think he's got one
California
you gotta remember 7am though
that's
I mean that's pretty late
like Sam and I wake up at 5am when we're in Hawaii we look like we're Mark Wahlberg You've got to remember 7 a.m. though. That's, I mean, that's pretty late.
Like Sam and I wake up at 5 a.m. when we're in Hawaii.
We look like we're goddamn Mark Wahlberg, Dwayne Jordan.
We look like we're here.
Sam's walking around the whole, she's the first person up in the entire resort.
We're getting a hike in before 7 a.m.
Like we look like we're like adults.
But no, no, it's a fucking time zone.
Like there's nothing we can do about it.
We actually just slept in until noon.
These people think we're some heroes out there.
Now granted,
on the flip side,
we did have somebody that was in a room above us
coming from the other time zone,
I think.
They were not happy with me.
I had a 7.30 a.m. call,
you know,
just classic FaceTime call.
I had no idea
anybody was in the room above us.
I forget what I was saying,
probably something ridiculous.
Like,
I don't want to,
that's just not what we're going to do.
We're just not going to do that.
This guy peeks his head over the thing.
He's like,
from Russia.
He's like,
I don't,
I can't do a Russian accent right now.
Let me figure it out.
Mother,
no.
Anyways,
told me,
shut the fuck up.
He told me,
he was,
and then I was like,
oh,
I literally like looked up.
I was like,
oh my God,
I'm so sorry.
I had no idea anybody was up there,
you know,
and he just kept going. You know, he was like, you're rude to us. And I'm like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I had no idea anybody was up there. And he just kept going.
He was like, you're rude to us.
And I'm like, I didn't know you were even.
I'm so sorry.
I would be pissed off too.
And then we go into the room and I continue my conversation.
And Sam's like, Pat, you're still yelling, right?
They are right above us.
So I got kicked out of the resort because I was trying to have a conversation early so that what I'm saying is
he got married early
but if he's accustomed to
another time zone
gotta add at least
three hours
onto that thing
and I like the thought
of a brunch
a little breakfast brunch
by the way
I didn't eat that
I mean yeah
it's different
I kind of liked it
a little wedding buffet
food's good
food's automatically good
yeah but
brunch food is always good.
Always.
And brunch,
you can have
chicken nuggets and pizza
because it's lunch.
I mean, I guess
it doesn't matter,
but I feel like
that's too much
like a tailgate.
Like, I want to start
getting drunk
at like 4 or not,
8 a.m.
We talked about this.
Mr. Fox has a rule,
okay?
Until 2 p.m.
Yeah, that's right.
Evan Fox's dad
has a rule
that he's lived by
forever.
And this is how
I think it's an adult look.
If it's not 2pm yet,
he's not housing beers.
Can I grab a Coke with Coke on until 2 o'clock?
Otherwise, Mrs. Fox
is going to sell.
Which I appreciate.
Yeah, it's a good rule.
Do you think it ever hits 201? a good role. You're saying everything.
Do you think it ever hits 201?
Oh, right.
It's really bad.
It's not good.
Anyways, did he give a best man speech?
That's the million dollar question.
Because everybody has said,
he is the one human that does exist today
that is potentially two different humans in one human.
Dwayne Johnson, Seven Bucks Production, suits, ballers, Hobbs and Shaw, selfie videos, private planes, workouts.
Then there is tequila, chocolate chip cookies.
Voss water. Voss water.
Voss water.
Yes, we all know.
That's Dwayne Johnson.
Incredibly rich, incredibly successful.
But it seems as if he never sleeps and just keeps it moving.
And then there's that other human that created this whole thing.
The Rock.
Did The Rock give a speech at Dwayne Johnson's wedding?
Here's the situation.
It's a real question.
There's only a handful of people you could have that would be cooler
or better at giving a best man speech than either Dwayne Johnson or The Rock.
So when you take that into account, yeah, I think it's fine.
Who would it be?
What if Stone Cold Steve Lawson just came in,
in the middle of his breakfast brunch,
and, hey, you want to hop on one of these four by fours with me? In the middle of his breakfast brunch.
Hey, you want to hop on one of these four by fours with me?
That straight up Steve Austin show.
It's just him doing whatever the fuck he wanted to do.
I haven't seen it yet. I don't want to watch it.
Oh, it's hilarious.
It is a hilarious concept of a show.
Because you're literally just watching Stone Cold Steve Austin
just do a bunch of normal human things
with ridiculous circumstances
attached and then the conversations
he has he's interviewing
he's a good interviewer
it sounds like a Dr.
Phil Oprah Dan Patrick
it's like a good interview too
so it's like sprinkled in with alright we're going to hop on
these recliners
that have
you know a nice 800 ponies all right, we're going to hop on these recliners that have, you know, a nice 800 ponies under the hood.
We're going to drive around Cleveland and then we're going to park it.
We're going to eat a hot dog, drink a beer, and then we're going to talk about your high school life, Baker Mayfield.
It was very interesting.
I enjoyed the show.
I enjoyed it.
But I think he could have done a good speech at Dwayne Johnson's.
Oh, for sure.
I think so.
I don't know who else.
Ric Flair.
I mean, we could just do wrestlers.
Wrestlers.
Right.
Alone.
You think The Rock would like us?
Like, is he looking for new friends?
Like, you think we're his new friends?
Nah.
Seems like he's all set.
Seems like a very private guy.
Builds an entire gym everywhere he goes just to work out by himself.
Yeah, that's true.
Which, by the way, I don't blame him because, you know,
the whole fucker who's at the gym can get in the way,
especially when you're trying to clang some iron.
Clanging and banging.
Excuse me.
That's what he's got to say.
All right.
That's the show.
It's been fun.
We're going back to America tomorrow.
Can't wait to watch Packers-Bears tonight.
Podcast coming out tomorrow.
We got NFL recap, best of the week recap.
Things to look forward to going into the weekend.
Gambling, bangers, see you later, all that shit.
Should be a good show.
Canada's been pretty good to us, I think.
It has, absolutely.
I mean, we're currently locked in a meeting room with no windows.
Right above the lobby.
It's a thousand degrees.
Hey, not...
Hey.
Hey.
That Union Station
little stooge I was in today?
That was legitimately
a thousand degrees.
Marshawn Lynch, I thought,
was going to potentially
pass out from how much
he and I were sweating.
I thought he was going to leave.
There was a chance. Yeah. There was a couple chances Marshawn was going to leave before out from how much he and I were sweating. I thought he was going to leave. There was a chance.
Yeah.
There was a couple chances Marshall was going to leave
before we got our interview.
Because they had him doing other stuff.
He rolled out of an Escalade with 200,000 skittles.
That's how it started.
It was a great day.
Very thankful to the people at DAZN and to you for listening.
Hashtag, Gumby hates Canada.
No, I'm joking joking don't do that
hashtag
coming to America
send us
a topic you'd like us
to talk about
that's a little bit obscure
actually send in questions
that's what we're going to do
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we'll answer a couple questions
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If your question gets read, free merch from Nick Morado.
Ah, Gumpy.
Free merch from Gumpy.
Gumpy will select the questions.
Use hashtag coming to America questions.
That's good.
And Gumpy, who is coming to America, will pick him.
Other than that, let's get the fuck out of here.
There's some real clanging and banging going on outside.
Ty Schmidt, hit the music.
Yeah.
Wheezy, hey.
Chee, chee.
Back home smoking legal
I got more slaps than the Beatles
Point shit running on diesel, dawg
Playing with my nanny, that shit is lethal, dawg
Don Corleone
Trust me, at the top it isn't lonely
Everybody acting like they know me, dawg
Don't just say it now, you gotta show me
Bring the clip back empty, shit You asked to see the ball, so they sent me, dawg
I just broke her off with a ten-piece, dawg That ain't nothin', I'm just bein' friendly, dawg
It's just a lil' ten-piece for us, just to blow it in the mall
Doesn't mean that we involved, I just, what, I just, uh, put a Richard on the card
I ain't go playin' ball, but I'll show you how the fuck you gotta do it
If you really wanna fall to your five When you're back against the wall
And a bunch of niggas need you to go away Still goin' bad on them anyway
Saw you last night, but did it that day Yeah, a lot of murk on me in the hallway
Got a sticky and a keep it at my dog's place
Girl, I left it loving magic, not in soft shape Still going bad on you anyway
I can feel like 80 racks in my Amerys Me and Drizzy back to back, it's getting scary
If you fucking with my eyes, just don't come near me
Put some bands all on your head like Jess and Terry
Rich and Millie, cuts a Lambo Known to keep the better bitches on commando
Every time I'm in my trap, I move like Rambo Ain't a neighborhood in Philly that I can't go
For real
She say, oh, you rich, rich Bitch, I graduated, call me Big Fish I got Lori Hari on my wish list That's the only thing I want for Christmas
I been having my way out here, yeah, no, that's facts
You ain't living that shit you said, yeah, we know that's cat
You ain't got to ask me when you see me, no, I'm straight
DT, OVO, we back again, we gon' play
Just a lil' 10-piece for it, just to blow it in the mall Doesn't mean that we involved, I just, what, yo, we back again when you go, I'm fed It's just a little 10-piece for it Just to blow it in a mile
Doesn't mean that we involved
I just, what, I just, uh
Put a Richard on the card
I ain't go playin' ball
But I'll show you how the fuck you gotta do it
If you really wanna fall
Till you're fired when you're back against the wall
And a bunch of niggas need you to go away
Still goin' bad on them anyway
Saw you last night, but did it broad day. you