The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1011 - MNF Recap, Myles Garrett, The General Bob Carpenter's Top 6, Aaron Rodgers, Michael Lombardi, Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s Monday Night Football between the Chargers and the Jets, how brutal of a game it was, what the Jets need to do on offense to turn things around, if we’re more confident about the Chargers turning things around, and everything else happening around the NFL as we wrap up week 9. Joining the progrum is 4x All-Pro, 4x Pro Bowler, one of the best defensive players in the NFL, Defensive End for the Cleveland Browns, Myles Garrett, to chat about how dominant he is, if he’s playing the best football of his career right now, why Jim Schwartz’ defense is so dominating, why his workout regimen is in season, why he believes this Browns team can make a deep run, and much more (21:56-42:34). Next, Ohio State legend, former first round pick of the 2006 NFL Draft, The General Bob Carpenter joins the show to give his college football top 6 before tonight’s CFB playoff reveal show, and to give a few of his patented gimmicks as well (1:13:03-1:31:03). Next, 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, QB for the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about how his rehab is going, throwing bombs on field at MetLife last night, if his return timetable has been accelerated at all, how frustrating it is being on the sidelines when the offense isn’t performing well, and more (1:59:59-2:16:37). Later, former GM of the Cleveland Browns, 3x Super Bowl Champion, special advisor to Bill Belichick with the Patriots, host of the GM Shuffle and Lombardi Line, Michael Lombardi joins the show to discuss whether or not he thinks it’s a possibility that Bill Belichick won’t be in New England next year, if he would coach elsewhere, and if he thinks he still wants to both coach and be the GM (2:39:10-2:43:42). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

People, welcome to our Humble the Boat, the Thunderdome, on this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, November 7th, already, 2023. This sports program starts now. Football! Happened last night, but boy, it was torturous to watch. I will say this Jets team is a nightmare to watch on television. And I don't want to start piling on, okay? Because I've heard he's a great guy.

But you go back to last year. When what team was on primetime did we hate our lives? The Denver Broncos. Now that the New York Jets are on primetime, we hate watching football. Nathaniel Hackett is a primetime killer, and it needs to get sorted as quickly as possible. Congrats

to the Chargers getting a big-time win in primetime. And Brandon Staley may be changing the narrative a little bit. A lot of games left still for him and them to go on and do whatever. But they continued to pound the rock and continued to win that game last night as the Jets just didn't protect Zach Wilson. And the Jets forced us to watch that offense do absolutely jock crop. Now, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman obviously enjoyed that.

Oh, yeah. Peyton Manning and Eli Manning had a miserable night. They talked to Arnold Schwarzenegger and a donkey, which was certainly a good time. And they also talked to Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence was awesome.

Yeah. Great. Changed his hair. Yeah, they did the Manning haircut on Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, because Arnold Schwarzenegger bailed on him. Yes.

Arnold Schwarzenegger just quit. Oh, pretty much. One-to-one commercial break, said, all right, see you later. I did send a text, potentially, to Omaha. This was the immediate introduction of Arnold Schwarzenegger when he came onto the screen. He was force- send a text potentially to Omaha. This was the immediate introduction of Arnold Schwarzenegger.

When he came onto the screen, he was force-feeding a donkey some granola. And Peyton and Eli were obviously not giving a heads up. Peyton was very flustered there for a bit. And then said, oh, a bit. It's a bit. It's a bit. Is that a real donkey, I assume, was going through his head. They go to commercial break.

They say, hey, will you stick around? We'll be back, says Arnold Schwarzenegger. He was not bought. No, he was not. He was gone. He went to ride that donkey off into the sunset and do his thing. Watch a documentary on him. He's got a book coming out.

I think he's potentially coming on this show in the next few weeks. Yeah, I'm excited to chat with him. I don't know if a watch along with a Monday Night Football game was the right thing for Arnold Schwarzenegger, but I do believe chatting with us would be a good time, and the Manning cast was certainly fantastic. So Trevor Lawrence was great. That's the first time I've heard him that long.

He stayed on for like six commercial breaks. So he was on there a long time a lot of chatter chit-chatting about everything he was also predicting what defenses were going to do that was fun to kind of watch him Peyton and Eli kind of see the double barrel in the middle and they saw the weight on the back foots like they're bailing they're bailing all three of them said they're bailing they bailed out immediately it was like that was sweet to kind of watch these masters at work. Then it was kind of, I think Trevor was, I mean, Sky came much easier for these quarterbacks, I assume. But watching him pick apart what defenses were going to do

while on the Manning cast I thought was really cool. And then Keyshawn Johnson stopped by for a blast. Other than those conversations, the football wasn't anything other than Bosa, that D-line of the Chargers wrecking shop, and then Justin Herbert and Keenan Allen doing their thing on the offensive side. Austin Eckler scored like six touchdowns. Only one of them counted last night. It is awesome to be in the middle of a football season,

but we are at the exact halfway point of the NFL season, and for the first time ever. Oh, what? On this particular program, and it's not just me. Obviously, the toxic tables here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Great-looking ponies on your chest, pal. Thanks, pal. You it's not just me. Obviously, the Toxic Table is here. At Boss of Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Great looking ponies on your chest, pal. Thanks, pal. You need the horses just like you need the cats.

Hell yeah. Well said. And dogs. I've heard the horses have like a really powerful innate ability to kind of know you. Yeah, they have. They're like supers. They're like big ass dogs. Oh, yeah.

Very smart. A lot of mana. A lot of mana. A lot of mana. Big brain. Very athletic and huge. I've only been around horses a few different times. Majestic creatures.

Majestic is the perfect word. Fat ass. Oh, well. Big fat ass is on those things. Big fat other things, too. Dongs. That's one half of the hammer. Don!

Cowboys toned dicks. We were all thinking that. I guess that's certainly one thing that we could describe. We're talking about majestic creatures. We don't need to necessarily just go right into horse dong talk. But I will say, I like ponies. Those ones are wild, too. Don't be trying to break them.

Nuh-uh. Don't be trying to break them, because they'll break you, if that is the case. Also, nine-year NFL vet, host of Everything DB, that'll happen later today, Darius Jane Butler is here. Today, we'll be debuting the Middies. Yeah, don't be smoking mid, obviously. We don't love everything about that. But the midseason NFL awards, the Middies. Yeah, don't be smoking mid, obviously. We don't love everything about that. But the midseason NFL awards, the middies, we will hand out. All the end-of-season awards, we will hand out today

if it was to be done today through the first half of the NFL season. The NFL Jets aren't going to win. New York Jets aren't going to win any of these. Never. But there are a couple teams that show up in a big way. We also potentially just went to the sportsbooks and saw who the odds-on favorites were and let the sportsbooks

decide who was having the best season and broke it all down. Let's talk about last night's game a little bit more. Darius J. Butler, you were on the Chargers your whole life pretty much. That's not true. Your whole TV life since Justin Herbert has been drafted to the Los Angeles Chargers. Last night was the first time I saw you pick against

them. It actually scared me to death because I picked the Jets as well. Normally when somebody rides a bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, and then backs off of it, it's like that is definitely football gods, gambling gods are going to punish you. You didn't like the Chargers last night strictly because of decision-making potentially by the head coach. I respect that.

I think a lot of us. Did you see anything from the Chargers last night that makes you think they could maybe go on a run here? Maybe this isn't going to be another year of the Chargers chargering. Is that what we saw last night maybe? No. The run defense was solid. Defense as a whole was obviously pretty good.

A lot of sacks in that game. But struggle offensively, that's why I was concerned with them going in. Obviously, you lose Mike Williams. You lost Josh Palmer going into this game. I think Herbert had like a buck 36 or something like that passing. So, you know, this Jets team, this Jets defense specifically, has embarrassed a bunch of quarterbacks this season and did it again last night.

You know, obviously Eckler made some plays. Chargers defense made some plays, almost scoring there. But, no, not really happy with everything I saw with the Chargers, but it's a big win. Back-to-back wins for them, so that's always big. And then the Jets, I mean, that offense was just – it was tough to watch. You know, even when they made a play, it seemed like every time Brees Hall made a little play that potentially,

you know, it's only one play for him, he can go 60 at any point, it would come back. It would be a stupid penalty, a hold and a block in the back, just something. So, couldn't get out of their own ways. Execution was just terrible offensively for the Jets. It was torture watching that. So bad. You know what I mean?

Like, to your point, Herbert went for 136. 136 yards. Come on. Justin Herbert went for 136 yards. Zach Wilson somehow in there. We all missed it, I think. 263 yards real line. Yeah.

49 attempts. Almost 50 attempts put that thing on Zach Wilson's shoulder, even though you have Brees Hall and the boys out there. It was a tough game to watch. But let's go to the AFC East because the New York Jets are in there. And the hope is obviously the man that will be joining us in the third hour today because of travel situations, Aaron Rodgers, will be able to come back and lead the Jets somehow, someway.

That's a story right out of the fairy tale. I hope it happens. Yes. Let's talk about the end of a fairy tale. Let's go up there to Foxborough, New York. Oh, boy. Let's go to New England. Let's go to a place that has the greatest dynasty

in the history of professional sports, what they have done over the last 20-plus years. A lot of Super Bowls, a mainstay in the AFC Championship, at least, and in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady goes on to become the greatest of all time. Bill Belichick, greatest coach of all time, greatest general manager of all time. They move on. Obviously, Tom

Brady goes his way, and then now Bill Belichick has to build a brand new team in a brand new image. That image was Mac Jones. Now has Mac Jones done well? Nowhere near as good as Tom Brady. So bad that team has been, and now they're calling for a little bit of a change. Now there's rumors floating everywhere.

Bill Belichick's going to get fired. And if Bill Belichick gets fired, there's 31 other teams that are potentially thinking to themselves, Bill Belichick's available? What do we got going? People are saying maybe he goes to the Chargers. Maybe Bill Belichick goes to the Chargers. They got a quarterback. They got weapons.

They got a team that needs it and ownership that's able to do it. They're also saying maybe he goes to the... This was just fodder for myself. I said Buffalo Bills. Yeah, well, so that ain't going to happen. But they're putting him at the Commanders, you know, because brand-new ownership, everything going on. There's a lot of people that are thinking that the end is maybe near

for Bill Belichick with the New England Patriots. How does it shape up? We shall see. There's a video now we see of the Crafts. There's a lot of rumors of what bob craft has said about bill belichick in the past coming off an elevator okay after the tom brady split now if you're a good lip reader look at the bold one jonathan he's on the right yeah he's a kid listen what he says i think he says yeah we gotta watch

they're nowhere near good enough. Okay, so that is what every lip reader on the internet has basically said that Jonathan Kraft said there. He's obviously talking about the Patriots. Con man, I know today you have great juice, great energy. I don't know what the Celtics or the Bruins did last night, but I love everything about your vibes on this particular Tuesday. Whenever you look at the future of the Patriots, is it real that Bill Boatek is going to get fired?

He's going to end up somewhere else? He's going to break the record? What the hell are the Crafts going to do to replace a GM and a head coach and also potentially a quarterback? That feels like a nice 10 to 50. Oh, no. Are the Patriots in a spot that the Lions were in for like 30, 35 years? Are you in where the Colts are right now?

What are the Patriots' future looking like, and how does this get settled, do you think? They're definitely not where the Colts are because the Colts are good at football. Yeah, you're damn right. They score points. So, I mean, if you're scoring 20 plus points a game, it's at least fun to watch. Yeah, it's bad. The whole Bill Belichick being

completely fired, that I don't think should happen. He should still be the coach. Now, as far as GM goes, yeah, I think a lot of people would be okay with maybe someone else going in there making obviously still having a lot of you know conversations with bill about what they want to do but having someone else in there i think everybody in new england would be comfortable with the crafts so how would that work oh i have no idea how is so bill belichick human, maybe not human. Yeah, might not be. So now somebody else is coming in and telling them, hey, this is the players? How old is he?

How old is he? He is 72. If Bob Kraft goes to him and he writes down all the players that have been signed over the last four years and where they are now, I think there would be maybe, maybe, maybe not, but I think there would be maybe, maybe, maybe not, but I think there would be some sense like, you're right, Aguilar, Johnnie Smith, Cam Newton,

you could throw in there, but he also bridged the gap, yeah, and he didn't pay anything. Cole Strange in the first round, Nikhil Harry. There are a lot of things you could kind of write out where people could say, okay, Bill, look, obviously you are the greatest of all time as a GM and a coach, but something has to change.

And I'm not saying this isn't on Bill. No one, I think, is watching these games thinking Bill Belichick's the reason this team stinks. The team isn't good because of injuries, of course, and in part to the signings that have been made that haven't worked out. They just haven't. I understand what you're saying about how logically. Logical.

Yeah, the signings have not gone. But humans here are what is happening. So Bill Belichick just says, you know what? Yeah, somebody else will be the general manager. Somebody else will do the trades, the contract negotiation that I've done for the last 25 years. Somebody will be able to decide who my team is going to look like that I'm going to coach. I don't think that's possible. I don't know if that's possible.

But I do appreciate the fact that maybe there is a way to explain to Bill that if he was just to focus on coaching, maybe his life would be better. They'd get back to winning. But it would have to be the right person coming in, GM. It would have to be like his kid, maybe. I don't know how else that would work. He's had people there over the years, obviously, his kid maybe. I don't know how else that would work. He's had people there

over the years obviously been kind of like DeFacto, GM, Pioli, Casario, I forget who the guy was. Lambeau. I was at Lambeau of course. But maybe you bring in someone with some type of spirit or maybe you bring someone back. That's kind of his M.O. as well. Maybe Lambeau's back.

Somebody already familiar with how things are done, the Patriot way. But if Bill leaves New England, I think he's going to be on his own accord. I think he's earned that. And, you know, observing the relationship between him and Kraft from afar and up close, I just feel like that will forever be the dynamics. It's almost, you rarely say this in sports, but it's almost owed to him.

When you have, when you've done that to him. That's what John was saying we gotta watch I mean you gotta watch you've done it towards they're nowhere near good enough but we gotta watch six six Lombardi's in the facility you look at you know Patriot Place and everything that they've done in Foxborough obviously yeah the league is what have you done for me lately but I mean yeah I think he'll leave when he does leave uh it'll be on his own now listen you guys called for Mike McCarthy to get the hell out of there after he did a lot of winning in green bay that's a little different it wasn't fantastic but like connor's saying nah he hasn't been owed a damn thing so

now i think the reason why he's saying that what i'm i'm saying i don't think that is how people view it that he's owed that way okay got it it's connor saying that is not necessarily a positive you know bill belichick treated people this way you know bill belichick brings in teddy bruski he goes hey listen allegedly i don't know if it's ever been well ninkovich told us we're cutting you okay yeah or you can retire it's one you can do whatever you want to do goes to other every player basically there's play that hey we don't think you're good enough anymore you're either going to retire and we're going to do this honorable or we'll just kick you the hell out of it. Bye-bye.

We'll turn your thing up. That's kind of been the Belichick way of handling business. So if that was to happen to him, I assume he would both respect it and understand it. But if you're coming from Kraft's standpoint. That's what I'm speaking for. I'm not speaking for fans or former players. I'm sure a bunch of former players would love to see him you know get to acts at this point fans you know i have obviously been sport your whole life of course you guys been having

parades in the city for championships i'm not speaking from their standpoint i'm just saying from robert craft's position uh i think bill maybe it's a conversation they're like hey maybe what do you want to do what if he does the Bill Belichick? What if he does the, hey, listen, we're going to fire you. You can still retire, though, if you'd like to do. And what if he just plays the Teddy Bruschi conversation or plays any of the ex-Patriots that were legends there where he told them their time is up?

You ain't worth a damn anymore. I hate to tell you this, but I'm the guy that's going to have to do that. Would that take place this year? Are they going to run it back for another year? How do you think this kind of – let's just put a bow on this because it's a lot of Patriot talk. It's very negative. I don't like how negative it is.

But it is very negative. You got an apology on deck, so you need to get prepared there, Tony. There's a lot of positivity coming from your side. But do you think this happens this year? How long do you think this kind of drags out? I think you give him another year. So one more year. Yeah, I think next year. With a top five pick,

in all the cap space that we have, if he can't, if nothing changes and we look back on this next year and we're sitting at two and seven, then yeah, I think it is done. And I don't know if Bob Kraft feels that way, that he deserves it just because it has gone so loud and because of the Brady Belichick relationship like Kraft having

to repair the Brady Belichick relationship I assume now looking at it he thinks like Bill screwed this up with Tom and that probably doesn't help so I don't know if he has this guy deserves it because it's been four years but obviously as a Belick guy, I would like to see him finish it out. He's not retiring. He will get that win record. They're saying he's younger than ever off the field. They say he's living a little bit. He's doing a bunch of stuff off the field. What does that mean?

He's just living his life to the fullest, and I couldn't support it more. How? I can't say that word. He's being an absolute dog. That isn't a He is being an absolute dog. That isn't a dog. That's a dog. That's the rumors on the streets up there in New England

that Bill Belichick has a revenge body. He's had to live in a little bit, I think, is what you were about to maybe not say in this particular. He's got more than a revenge body. I think we can put it that way if you want to. What way? Put how Belichick's doing off the field, per se.

And you do have to say it this way, because if you just say how he's doing off the field, it's how he's doing off the field is more so how it has to be put. So Connor's name is Boston Connors, how we call him, obviously from the Boston area. Has a lot of friends. Went to six years of high school, so

met up with a lot of people who potentially know a lot of things. And boy, the rumor bug that gets sent into Connor's phone about what's going on back at home is certainly enlightening about Bill Belichick maybe living a little different life than we thought. Pretty accurate.

It is usually spot on. And to your point about being in high school for six years, actually played Jonathan Kraft's kid in football at one point. Not that that's a source. Not that that's a source. Not that that's a source. I do not know Johnny's boy.

All I know is that he used to play football. Let's move along to something more positive out of the AFC. Ladies and gentlemen, I would like to hand the floor right over to a man who is a diehard Pittsburgh Steelers fan. And one half of the hammer, Cowboys turn dicks. Where's my camera? Shut up, Tom. I have to apologize to Cincinnati Bengals fans.

There we go. That was really good. That was really good. Congrats, Tony. Hey, yesterday I said that the really cool strike thing that they did in the Paycor Stadium, which is a third-tier timekeeping system company Paycor is. Just want to get that out there.

Jeez. ADP's the best. I got enough money to sell. I thought that the Bengals fans wouldn't be smart enough to pull that off on their own, and that was just the wrong way of going about thinking about this. And I said that I didn't have respect for the Bengals. I didn't mean the football team.

The football team is very good. I meant the fans and the franchise as a whole I didn't have respect for. So I wanted to kind of clear that up there. I just didn't... I should have thought about it this way. Like, when you're the 32nd ranked valuation as far as what your team is worth, I should have realized that the cheap owners and people over there wouldn't have spent money to put T-shirts on every single seat. You know, they famously serve slop out of a Janner's bucket to Carson Palmer,

and he had to get his get out of there. That was my fault. You guys definitely did the stripe thing on your own, which was super cool. I was wrong. I apologize for being wrong. We'll give you an out here. You're looking for one?

You got more? They went 30 years without winning a playoff game. I also don't respect that. But the team's good now. Okay. All right. Way to go. That was really good. That was a great apology. Yeah, it was a really good apology. You acknowledged some things in there.

It was awesome to learn that that was not the stadium putting the t-shirts out there. And normally, you would automatically assume that because of how good it was kind of dialed in right there but then we got a lot of people telling us you think mike brown's giving out free shirts to 65 000 people even if those shirts are eight bucks a pop just start doing a map no chance they're doing that they organize that that's not easy to do especially at the professional level college you can kind of send emails and everything to

everybody the whole city of cincinnati coming together to do, especially at the professional level. College, you can kind of send emails and everything to everybody. The whole city of Cincinnati coming together to do that, beautiful. But I also think it echoes the sentiment that that environment and atmosphere, college-like. That's a real home field advantage over there in Cincinnati. They're playing great ball right now. You've mentioned it a few times. AJ's mentioned it.

Obviously, Pac, that's where he's at. So, college town, that is impressive coordination. I still don't know how they did it. I don't know what Facebook group, Reddit, Twitter. I saw a tweet. Okay, okay. So, I mean, it's impressive, though, to get the whole stadium online for that. That was dope.

Great apology, Tom. That was a very good apology. Thank you. Very adult of you. I'll admit when I'm wrong. What you said about the slop is real. Carson Palmer came on and said that. Yeah, he did.

It was gross. They're serving us buckets of chili, pretty much. And then you got to pay for hot dogs at half-cab. Yeah. Dunkin' nachos. Yeah. And that's just what they were doing. No ketchup or mustard.

And we've documented pretty well. Before we got on ESPN, we just lost all power. Yeah, I saw the lights. We're kind of having a Cincinnati Bengals issue right now. We just lost power to our place. But we have an indoor facility here. We could do practice. Cincinnati didn't have an indoor facility just a couple years ago.

When their team was in the Super Bowl, they had to go to the University of Cincinnati in between field hockey and lacrosse practice and get their work in for the Super Bowl in 2021 or whatever it was. Now they have an indoor facility. They have a sponsorship on the stadium. Their fans are organizing the entire stripe of the stadium. What a come up.

Congratulations to the Bengals. And you talk about like the crafts, talking about Bill Belichick. It's like Joey B. Joey B is really the rebirth of that entire city and town. And what a great football town it has become. It's crazy. You talked about, what, 30, I think 30, 31 years maybe going without a playoff win.

That goes to show you how important it is getting that quarterback position right. Like, having the right guy, obviously, in the draft, having the number one pick, they were ready to run Zach Taylor probably out of town, and then he just comes and just revitalizes the whole city, the whole organization. Crazy how important that position is.

I do like that we're not giving Zach Taylor the credit as we would potentially in other places. And that's because the first year of Zach Taylor, what an ugly year. Remember trading in Dalton on his birthday? Or Totem, he was getting benched and not traded him on his birthday. It was terrible. And he lost and it was ugly. You know, this guy's going to have a job because the Browns aren't going to fire anybody because they don't want to have to pay a guaranteed contract.

So this is the future. And it's like, how'd this guy get this job? Well, he was with McVay for 20 minutes. I mean, it was a bad start. And then bang, here we are. And you've got fans doing this and Super Bowl implications pretty much every single week. Congrats to Cincinnati.

Let's stay in the AFC North in Ohio. There's a team up north. And you say you've got to get that quarterback position right. I think they're hoping that they did that whenever they spent the biggest amount of money in the history of paying quarterbacks. But what they do have on their team is somebody that ain't like the others. There's somebody on that team that ain't from here. It's very evident. Way too big. Way too Yeah. Way too big.

What? Way too fast. What? Way too explosive. What? Way too smart. What? Way too good at football.

What? Ladies and gentlemen, Miles Garrett. Yeah! Miles! What an introduction, man. I appreciate it. Hey, it's a real deal. I got to see you up close and personal whenever you took on the Colts,

and let's do this real quick, okay? We have a couple plays just from this season that you have done that makes me believe that you're not an actual human, pal. Do you see the way these teams respect you? You drew a delay a game because the double team was running back and forth like it was Red Rover, Red Rover. At what moment in your life did you expect this, realize this, and why don't we do this every

single play if they're going to double you let's get a delay a game every single time man they try to hide it a little bit better i mean i think i think braver was like the hell with the disguise we're just going to double this i don't care if he knows or not okay so let's talk about you standing over top of a guy practicing little crossover moves like this was some pickup basketball in the offseason where you're taller than everybody and dunking on their face. J.J. Watts said that he's been in this feeling before where there is not a single human on earth that could block you.

Is that a good indication of what you're feeling in that moment there? Yeah. I mean, I feel that every time I talk to him, but if anyone knows it well, J.J JJ knows it better than anyone recently. I mean, he's been at the highest level. So what'd you do? You just got bored and you just started doing it? And then you thought, man, this is pretty sick.

Were you kind of in a mode? You didn't even know that you were doing that? Or how did this come to be, you think, Myles? I was just in that flow state, man. I do it at practice. I'm just having fun. Just trying to to mess with my my teammates you know bring out new stuff that i might incorporate into the game i was

like i've been doing this for a while let me let me break it out uh when i get the the right opportunity and you know we we got the call and i was you know lined up over the center had time i could you know i was a spinner so i could you know get up and mess around with them. I was like, oh, yeah, we got to show the boys that this isn't just for play. We pull this out in the primetime games as well. Yeah, the internet was losing its mind. This is a regular season game. This is not a preseason game. These are against other professional athletes.

This guy's dicking around before the ball even gets snapped. And then let's go to it. This is all this season. All these absurd things are happening. Here's you in Indianapolis. Double team, no problem. Let's go ahead and win this game outright by ourselves. Let's ruin all of Indianapolis.

There was five miles. And then you just walked off strutting the entire time. We're six yards away from you in our suite right back here. And there was not a single thought that any human could get a body in front of you that entire time. We're six yards away from you in our suite right back here. And there was not a single thought that any human could get a body in front of you that entire game. You wrecked the whole damn thing. You ruined our Sunday, Miles. You ruined our entire Sunday from first quarter all the way through the fourth quarter. Even whenever field goals were being kicked, Miles, you decide to do something so bananas and absurd

that people think, that's got to be illegal. That's got to be illegal. Watch it back. Nope, not illegal. Just a man doing something that humans aren't supposed to do against other professional athletes. So I tell you all of that to tell you this. Is this the best year you've had?

And why do you think you're at this state of your career where you're dominating every single week? You know, I want to start off by saying i wouldn't be ruining anybody's day if including yours if you were a browns fan this makes this a lot easier for the both of us yeah yeah well i'll tell you what the future of our team right now i don't know how it's going relax anyway stop don't even put that into my ear but anyways are you playing your best football right now? What I got to witness up close and personal, what we all see every single week, do you realize it? How much more can you go?

And why do you think you've got to this point? What is it? I think I'm doing my prime, the peak of my powers. And I think it's just matching that experience and that wisdom as well as my athletic ability. Both of those being combined, I think that's really taking my game to another level. And I got to give credit to my teammates and Jim Schwartz

because without those guys and him putting us in a position to make plays, none of that's possible. He's willing to line me up anywhere and try out stuff. He knows I'm going to do my thing. He's like, no, we'll get you one-on-one, and you'll wreak havoc. So go do it. Yeah, well, you've certainly done that. Let's talk about Coach Schwartz because there was a bunch of stats

that we were reading off like the first five, six, seven weeks where this team's only given up two first downs all season. There's only been like 14 yards gained in the second quarter against this defense. What has he instilled? Is it an empowerment? Is it strategy? What do you think Schwartz has really done to come in

and make you guys such a dominant team? Man, it's both. I mean, he comes in. It's a mentality. You know, we live by three things. It's passion, it's toughness, and that's effort. And then he bundles effort with swag. You know, you got to go out there you got it you got to love the game you you want to let everyone know that you love the game no you you celebrate the success the success

of not only yourself but your teammates and uh no he doesn't just give low soon though if you're if you're dragging ass on a play he gives low so if you don't if you're not celebrating hard enough now not only if you make a play but for your lows if you're not celebrating hard enough. Not only if you make a play, but for your teammates. You better let the crowd feel you, the opponent feel you, and show appreciation for every single play. As long as we make a big play, let everybody know. On the other side of it, he's putting guys in position to make plays. Not just myself and everybody up front, but putting those guys on the back end and man more often than not

because they want to be aggressive. They want to lock up guys one-on-one. They live for that challenge. And then letting those linebackers come downhill. We're penetrating and taking up double teams. He wants those linebackers flowing downhill and making plays in the backfield. Yeah, you got studs all over the place. And I appreciate the fact that Schwartz has given out lows

if you're not celebrating. So then you can just dance all over our faces in Lucas Oil Stadium. I mean, just all over our faces. Just dancing all over. You heard the Miles Garrett chants, obviously, in our stadium. I assume it happens everywhere else. How long has that been happening? And the first time you heard it, what was the feeling that you got?

The first time I got it was that four-and-a-half-shot game I had against the Bears. And that was outstanding. I was already having a hell of a game. But for them to start doing the chants was awesome. Yeah, it started to feel like I was somebody for a second. I had to put the hand up. You had to play into it.

I was like, if I'm going to be the guy, let me play the character for a second. Yeah, every day you feel good? You ever wake up on a Sunday and maybe the body – it says you're 6'4", 270. Is that accurate? Well, my ID says I'm 6'6", so I'm somewhere in the middle. Well, the NFL tries its best to make everybody look as small as possible, even though every other league tries to make everybody as big as possible. So 270, though, is the accurate weight?

Somewhere around there. I'm probably a little bit lighter these days, but yeah. Okay, so we see you dunking. We see you running. We see how low you can get in your bend do you ever get sore like your body your body just seems to be different than everybody else's is there days where you wake up and you're like you know what i can't do a 75 inch box jump today like or is it every single day you're able to just go crush I don't want to sound like –

Yeah, do it. Like, I don't want to sound arrogant is what I would say. Nah, do it. Yeah, I wake up every day and I just don't feel like sore. Like, after games, like that evening, it's like, man, I might have some bumps and bruises. But the next day, I'm good. Like, I'm ready to go, work out.

That's fun. That was so much fun. Sounds fun. I took a dump two days ago my leg my hammies cramped up cramped sore you know what i mean that's where i'm at so good luck with retirement even though i think we're going to be a little bit different as we go what is the workout routine because there's those photos on the internet of you just like you know you know oiled up absurd and then you're just, yeah. What do we do? Is it an everyday thing?

Are you strict? What about the diet? How long have you been doing it all? Tell me how I can look like you. That'd be cool. I mean, I have a personal chef that I have a routine with every single day. Workout pretty much almost every day. I mean, Monday, get a workout in.

Tuesday, get a stress routine and get treatment. Wednesday, get a workout in. Thursday, small workout, stress routine. Friday, workout in, treatment. Saturday, stress routine. And then Sunday, play the game. Yeah, but what is this? What is this? What is that? What is that? Is that every day? That was like an off day. Oh, okay. Okay. I had to find a gym. And I was like, man, let's just go get something in. And it wasn't planned.

And I was like, all right, I feel like hitting this today. And it was like a full body thing. And then hit the sauna. It came out. And my boy was like, hey, let me get a picture real quick. They got to show the people you're always working. I was like, all right, sure. I guess.

Whatever. I guess is what we're going to have to do. Think about tackles around the NFL, left and right tackles. Just their friends showed them that photo the night before a game. Hey, this is the human coming into town tomorrow. Just a little bit of a heads up. That's awesome. You instill that fear, and the way you play is fun to watch.

I also appreciate the fact you're repping municipal there across the hat in the hoodie. Shout out to Mark Wahlberg. Also, shout out to these shoes. Look, we got a box. Look at these shoes. These shoes. Pretty good.

Huh, Miles? Flexibility right there. Pretty damn comfy, aren't they? Yeah. Real quick. I got a pair as well they're all white the comfort in uh the i don't want to the the fit the the comfort and like it feels like they're nicer shoes yes and they look like very good shoes are those yours did you design them how what's the tie-in with municipal uh mark had those you know those are the origins but uh i had a relationship with mark for a while and you know aligned and you know what we wanted to

to accomplish in that in that market you know wanted want to do big things together and so it's a matter of you know how how we wanted to do things so it's like you know i wanted to have my my own shoe wanted to you know work with athleisure because that's kind of where I wear on the daily. And so it was a no-brainer as far as two people who wanted to carve a different lane for this industry. You're a fashion guy? Always been a fashion guy? Yeah. We see it at Halloween.

I'm absurd. I had no fashion until I got to the NFL. Well, you got money. That's what happens. Exactly. Yeah, that's what happens. You kind of get into it a little bit. I had to save my pennies for food.

I wasn't worried about looking the best back in the day. Oh, you look like trash. It's like, well, yeah, I had to eat lunch today. I appreciate what you're up to. We're proud of you, man. Keep growing. Keep growing the business, Brian. And obviously, everything you're doing on the field is awesome.

Speaking of that, Tone has a question for you, Myles. Myles, I was seeing if you were aware that there is a daily argument on Twitter or X about you and TJ Watt and who is better between Steelers and Browns fans. Do you know that that's always going on? Do you have a relationship with TJ since you're in the division? And is any extra motivation since you guys are in the division you guys are always up for defensive MVP uh yeah I've definitely heard the debate uh now whether I I care not really I think TJ is a hell of a player and I think he's uh he's fun to watch now I have a lot of respect for for these defensive guys I don't care if he's fun to watch. I have a lot of respect for defensive guys.

I don't care if he's in my division or not. But as far as, like, you know, healthy competition, I mean, I love it. He's right in our backyard. Our teams have history. We're all on defensive ball. So, you know, a matter of, you know, us going at each other. It's nothing personal. But, yeah, I think we both know that others on the opposite side of the field

and want to excel when we match up. Yeah, people that are competitive are going to want to do that. Right now the AFC North, by the way, I think if it was then, all four teams would end up in the playoffs. So it's hot in the kitchen up there. You guys are going to beat the hell out of each other as the rest of the season goes. Classic AFC North. Speaking of beat the hell out of each other as the rest of the season goes. Classic AFC North. Speaking of beating the hell out of each other, it feels like

defenses are having their way this year. I know you guys are playing the best defensive football you've played in a long time under that Schwartz defense. Do you recognize that? Do we think like offenses aren't as good as they were in years past? Or do you think defenses have gotten better, Myles? I think defenses are catching up you know they're they're letting

them get away with so much you know as far as like the the rules so the defense is finding a way to you know to to even things out and whether that scheme or guys can getting better or learning more adjusting um i think you know we're finding we're finding this power balance. Dude, the primetime game. The primetime unders. What's the stat on the primetime games unders? 22 and 7. 22 and 7 to the under.

That means like what the offense is supposed to do, obviously. You're not gambling. We're just giving you a heads up. Nobody's doing it. Like it is under, under, under. And I'm going to tell tell you watching you guys dominate in person was cool but watching offenses just fail fail fail fail fail not good for the league but also not your problem you don't need to deal with that at all darius has a question for you miles

yeah miles obviously your game record so teams offenses are going to be keyed in on you but crowds are too and it seems like you've been playing to the crowd more and more do you prefer playing to your home crowd or kind of being on the road in a hostile environment i love playing on the road man you know there's there's nothing better than you know 50 000 on dead ass island after you make a call and then you you you know you you egg them on a little bit. Yeah, you do this one. Yeah, you give them a little something to remember, and that's how legends are made, man. That's how teams are remembered.

You literally were doing this. 40 yards, you were just doing this, and then all the Browns fans were going bananas. It was wild. It was wild. You took over that game. You completely took over. Yeah.

And just walked all the way to the sideline like that. All the way to the sideline like that. It was. Ruined our jerseys. Yeah, it did. It ruined our Indiana night shirt. We had special jerseys on, Miles. You do that bullshit.

We had special jerseys. Huh? Those were special jerseys? Exactly. They were ugly, but they were special. Miles. Miles. My special jersey now. Those were special jerseys? Exactly. They were ugly, but they were special. Miles! Miles! My special jersey now.

You remember those jerseys from me now. That's true. What's your problem? It was a good day. Now, they're called Indiana Knights jerseys, and it was a 1 o'clock game. And that's because we got no primetime games. All season. Not a single one.

So I don't know why they picked you guys to showcase these games, but it was a great game. It was a great game and you ruined it. You absolutely ruined it. What a night. What a day. It was an honor to watch you play, to be honest with you. Ty, here's a question for you, Miles. Yeah, Miles, just curious. Pat mentioned it earlier. We've seen the basketball

highlights. Are the Browns ever like, hey, listen, we understand you're a beast out there, but you gotta stop playing basketball. I mean, you showed up with the Browns ever like, Hey, listen, we understand you're a beast out there, but you got to stop playing basketball. I mean, you showed up with the calves at summer league. We've seen you, you know, yoking on people at what LA fitness or whatever. Like, is there ever a thought that they're like, Hey, we understand that these clips are incredible. We love watching you play basketball. But the last thing we need is you turning an ankle or dunking on some guy and then having some guy try to take your legs out

from underneath you. Gary Vee. Exactly. After you embarrass him, are they pretty okay with you going out there embarrassing people on the basketball court? I'd say they're pretty okay. They know I'm not going to hoop with anybody who would think of taking me out and i usually i'll get a good group of guys whether you know it's uh those people already already know or don't send my pros or pros so i'm usually in like a good circle of of men and we can get some some

good hooping in and nothing nothing crazy is gonna go on so whenever there's like in those pickup games you're just picking guys you know and who you're gonna guard i do a full hey we going into paint no sweet all right so we're going three point line three point line you and me all day has there i assume when you show up at these things and then in warm-ups you're doing this in warm-ups you do this just right here how you doing 270 no problem looking the way you look off tough Tough to find guys to play with, to play basketball alongside. Is that probably a little bit of an issue? I'm not playing. I'm not playing with you ever.

Just want to let you know that. You got to try and find those college guys, those young college hoopers, young semi-pro guys. They run. You got some former pros who play out in Miami who can still ball. And sometimes I hoop my brother as well. He gets some guys and, you know, he can hoop still at his age. I don't know how he still does it, but, you know, it's a good time. Anybody taking charges?

Anybody ever take a Miles Garrett charge? You know, I only dunk on people if they go up. So if you go up for a charge, I might just, you know, I only dunk on people if they go up. So if you go up for a charge, I might just stop and pull up a floater or a mid-range, but if you try to go up with me, then I'll turn it over and dunk it. Oh, you're John Morant. Got it. Okay.

You got to do what you got to do. You got to do what you got to do at 280. Okay, I got it. Last question here for you. We appreciate you. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Miles, obviously you're unbelievable at football, and you probably don't have to do this,

but because of how smart you are as well, are you doing any shit talk, putting people in absolute pretzels, maybe even giving them a slam poem just in their face after you sack a quarterback or something, or are you kind of just quiet during the game, let your play do the talking? I'm the quiet storm,

man. I don't say anything to anybody. I'll help you up we might laugh and crack a joke but as soon as that play starts it's your behind that's it what the hell is all this stuff Miles what is this up here

is that Godzilla there's a couple of Godzillas up there a couple of figures I've gotten along the way so what's that That little what's that little human looking thing On the left there what is Small one Yeah that one

It's Mob from Mob Psycho Of course I know that So these are all collectibles is that what we got going on here Yeah I got a little collection Goku's in there right I think yeah, there's not a lot of Well, fortunately, I mean you're seeing the little stuff of a huge mural to my right, which you would uh, I think you'd appreciate What is it you shirtless? What's the mural?

It's a You I can spin around and show you yeah. I mean, let's take a tour. Where are we? Is this the office? Where are we right now? It is the office. It is the office. Oh!

Oh! Yes. Holy hell. Holy hell. It's a full die. It's an actual die. Did you kill that thing yourself? Yes.

It's what I do in my office season, you know. Dinosaur hunting? Full replica of Jurassic Park. Mason Rudolph's an idiot. Did you see what this guy, this guy killed a dinosaur with his bare hands. Miles, hey, I'm happy that

hey. That's awesome. Hell yeah. You're doing it. You did it. You figured it out. You beat the game. You did it. Got this off together. I'm honestly as proud as I've been. Well, you should have been proud after you ruined Indianapolis. And you do that every single week.

Congrats on the municipal deal. We can't wait to rock it, to go ahead and represent everything you got going on. And keep crushing it. You're actually, you're nominated for a middie this year, which is our first time ever giving out a mid-season award. So congratulations to that as well. Rejected, baby. Ladies and gentlemen, all pro

Miles Garrett. He's an alien. Dog. What was that dinosaur? That was a full-life replica of the end of Jurassic Park. The original. Popping out of the wall. I think a lot of the... I mean, Nick just said it in my ear, and Nick is a nerd through and through he was like oh miles garrett's a nerd like that's nerds compliment

by the way yes just so everybody knows that is not a bad unfortunately have to he has become one of my favorite human beings in the world now because of the godzilla and the jurassic park combination yeah it sounds like he was really speaking for you there in his office yeah i love the design the comics over there yeah comics on the wall. Dr. Strange. Yeah, he had a record player behind him, too. I want to let you, the back room there, while he was showing that, I'm like, oh, that's Naruto? I think it's Goku there. Like, every once in a while, I'll catch the tail end of it.

Goku's there. Yup, Godzilla. Yeah, I heard Bill's belt buckle fucking. Yeah, he might be covered in goo right now. Tony again! Oh, my God. Was that an F-bomb? It was. That slipped right by guess. Oh, my God. Was that an F-bomb? It was.

It slipped right by me. Tony, you see... Tony! That's where we need to stop. We need to all recognize what happens when it happens. He got so zeked up about saying Bill was bopping his meat to Miles' office that he couldn't help himself. Just had to let an F-dash-Dash- Dash-I-N out.

And by the way, we were on a run. Yeah, a good run. You know who the last person was to swear and say the F word on this show? Who's that? That son of a bitch right there. That's two times, Don. Two times. And Bill, he's been crushing it. Yeah.

Your first response whenever you say Bill's name shouldn't just be to swear. You said to Rudo. I am so sick of it. You said to Rudo and that's Yeah. Your first response, whenever you say Bill's name, shouldn't just be to swear. You said Nerudo. I am so sick of it. You said Nerudo, and that's automatically... To be fair, we do know that when Nerudo's brought up, Bill's damn near covering goo two minutes later.

Well, Bill's been working his ass off. Yeah. He has. He has. Sorry. We have updated the marquee, obviously. He's on a date. Hope you're proud of yourself, Tony.

I'm not. Hope you're proud of yourself, Tony. Tony. Son of a bitch. This is JSBN, Journalism Sports Network. I'm not. Hope you're proud of yourself, Tony. Tony. Son of a bitch. This is JSPN, Journalism Sports Network. That's right. I swear, SPN. You're going to talk about a guy's belt being unfastened.

I was super proud of myself. We're talking about Naruto. Yeah. For a long time. Miles Garrett was a great interview, too. I had zero. Miles Garrett was super chill. Great interview.

I had zero. You had two. I brought Mason Rudolph. He had two. Great bus had two. Had two. It was a good end. Yeah, it was. It was a good end. Yeah, it was.

It was a good end. It really was. Listen, stop the... You... Talking over the dry snitches. Yeah, I hear it. Yeah, you hear it? They got us, guys.

Come on. Yeah, we're moving on. Come on, the Bushes. They found us. They're already having a full conversation. Yeah, come on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, they got us, guys.

Hey, get off the roof. We're fine. They're here. They know we drank underage, guys. Fine up. Get off the roof. know we drank underage, guys. Fine up. Get off the roof. Yeah, they're coming down now. I told them.

I can't believe you guys found us. What were we thinking? We just went to dinner. Unbelievable. Come out of the bushes, guys. They found us. Hey, speaking of finding, found out a lot of stuff about the Winston-Salem State University, WSSU.

First take was down there this morning. That looked pretty sick. Oh, yeah. I don't know if they feel the same thing we feel. We'll be live in Athens, Georgia this Friday, by the way, for game day on Saturday. Our show will be live. Everybody will be there from noon to three Eastern time. Surprise

guests. Really? Pretty good, I think. Okay. We don't even know that. I think there'll be a lot of chatter about one of the guests. I think there'll be a lot of chatter about one of the guests that stops by. But them going and doing their show live, awesome. I wonder

how they get through how I feel. Because if these people start to get bored I automatically got to talk about something that I think they will have some sort of passion for. So doing that for three hours is certainly a balance of like have football games, NFL games to talk about. We're at this college

campus, this particular college campus also in a conference so we can't even maybe talk about college football in another conference. It's an interesting thing. That Winston Salem crowd though showed up in a conference. So we can't even maybe talk about college football in another conference. It's an interesting thing. That Winston-Salem crowd, though, showed up in a big way for them this morning, as did Savannah State yesterday.

So shout out to them taking the show on the road. I appreciate that. But they're much more mentally tough than I am. Because if you've seen what these Friday shows have become, it's just been like, all right. All right, let's go, Georgia! What's up? What's up? Let's go, Georgia!

Give me that basketball. Yeah, let's shoot a basketball. Sweet. It's not easy. It's awesome. It is up? Let's go, Georgia! Give me that basketball. Yeah, let's shoot a basketball. Sweet. It's not easy. It's awesome. It is a festival whenever we go down there, and every fan base has showed us massive amounts of love. The University of Georgia will be excited to see how this goes, but lucky, obviously, to do it.

Yeah, I mean, I'm in Utah. Because of the live show and how electric it can be, and I love their setup, too, like doing it in the gymnasium, like people in the stands and everything. It is going to be so hard on Friday not to just over and over again. That's all I've been thinking about. I'm pumped to bark with the

Georgia dog fans. Wait until you hear their call too. They have a call that I learned last year. Pretty sweet. Like a dog whistle really high? One of the lines is a drunk and obnoxious Georgia fan. That's one of the lines is a drunk and obnoxious georgia fan that's one of the lines like everybody just kind of sings yeah like that's how they england yeah like a drunk and obnoxious who was that coming down the track

it's the mean machine of the red and black oh then there's a couple lines and then, there ain't nothing finer in the land than a drunk, obnoxious Georgia fan. Then they all scream it. Then a drunk, obnoxious Georgia fan. Go dogs, go dogs, go dogs. And then they all start. It's sick. I don't remember it completely.

I learned it about a minute and a half before we went live on game day last year. And I was like, what's like a good, you know, to one of the locals. I'm like, what's a good, like go dogs. What is one? And they go, what's that coming down the track? It's me. Machine of the red and black. And I'm like, well, I don't, what's that coming down the track? It's me, Machine of the Red and Black. And I'm like, this is a lot.

It's a lot here. What is this? They'll go with you, though, if you do it. And then as we're sitting up there, Herb Street is like, are you doing that? And I'm like, as the show's kicking off and showing the intro, I'm running through. I'm like, I think I got it. I think I got it.

He's like, are you doing it? And I'm like, and then 20 seconds later, literally 90 seconds before the show starts, I learn it. Then 20 seconds into it, I'm like, really about to expose myself here. And they came with me. They were a great fan base for us on game day. They all hate that I'm on there, not all of them, instead of David Pollock. So I'm excited

to see how this whole thing goes on Friday. I'm a big fan of David Pollock, though. I would never say anything bad about David Pollock. He's been excited to see how this whole thing goes on Friday. I'm a big fan of David Pollock though. I've never, would never say anything bad about David Pollock. He's been nothing but very nice to me. And I understood that he could have hated me from the very beginning and he never did, but I'll be pumped to see our Georgia people. Cause every time I've gone to Georgia, there's been a lot of people. I love what you're doing. Hey, love what you're doing. Hey, love what you're doing. Now, with that being now with that being said atlanta to athens i think it's like an hour and a half drive i've only been in atlanta so friday could be a scene or it could be absolutely nothing either way we are going to have a great time in athens it is absolutely going

to be a scene if we know anything about georgia it's that we know that people love to raise hell in athens yeah i mean Who'd you learn that about? Well, apparently Stetson Bennett, his last year on campus, he was just raising all kinds of hell. And that was coming from a big-time Georgia fan who knew a couple people who knew Stetson down there. And let's just say he was having a good time in Athens raising hell. Oh, and I think that continued.

Yeah, maybe too good of a time. I think that continued. Speaking of the too good of a time. I think that continued. Speaking of the voice that you just spoke in there, there's a lot going on with this Michigan situation. When I was on first take, which is what I was originally going to get to, and then I got distracted by the Slater Industrial Academy. That's right. Founded in 1892 and how awesome they were.

Stephen A. Smith said, they need to ban Michigan from the college football playoff. And then as he was laying out the reasoning why, I'm like, I could see how a lot of people feel that way. I could see how that could become an actual thing. That would be a huge move by a lot of parties. And that decision, which is massive, would have to be made relatively quickly. But they're saying that the Big Ten is going to make a move

maybe even before this Saturday's game against Penn State. Pete Thamel has reported that the Big Ten and new commissioner Tony Petitti has, and reason why I'm not figuring on days because Tone Diggs said that I look like a 1980s Italian man with dress pants, tucked in tank top. Might as well go ahead and do this thing. So how you doing? How's your family? My favorite outfit that you've ever had on. Okay, sweet. Well, I'm

enjoying it as well. Look at me evolving. Growing up. Shout out to David Allen making some stuff that's much better than the normal crop from Amazon that I wear. But yes, they're saying that Big Ten and Petiti at the urgence of coaches, presidents, athletic directors from around Big Ten, they've listed off of things basically to Michigan saying,

hey, here's all the allegations that we have information for. They have until tomorrow end of day to respond and answer why all these things happened. And then allegedly the Big Ten is going to move pretty quickly on a punishment. Who knows what the punishment is going to be? Is it going to be a suspension to Jim Harbaugh? Is it going to be anything bigger than that? I'm not 100% sure. but Stephen A. Smith was like, ban him. Now there's even more information coming out that the Michigan people are saying that you,

Pete Thamel, are refusing to report news that makes Michigan not look like the villains, but maybe the people that were just doing what everybody else was trying to do to them. So Pete, I will ask you, what's the deal? You know stuff that maybe you're not reporting because it might make Michigan look good? No, I don't think so, Pat. I think this is a classic kind of, I have something over here, so I'm going to distract you with something over here. There's Michigan, I mean, this is just a classic tactic, you know, because Tony Petitti and the Big Ten, they have the coup de grace. They have it waiting, you know, in the wings. And at this point, you know because tony patiti in the big 10 they have the coup de gras they have it waiting you know in the wings and and at this point you know michigan they're just going to do whatever

they can to kind of save their behinds um because you know we mentioned it tony patiti and and all of these kind of athletic directors and coaches and you know support staff board of regents etc etc they want that pound of flesh. And Jim Harbaugh's ass has been looking pretty fleshy as of late. So Pat Forty has come out being kind of a counter Pete. So Pat versus Pete almost with information and narratives. Pat has come out with a transcript seemingly from other Big Ten schools deciphering what the Michigan signs were.

So they'd be using electronics to potentially transmit information about getting Michigan signs, which is fascinating. Yeah, I think this started last night. The AP started with it yesterday, and then the SI and Pat Forty have kind of come in with that. The whole Big Ten potentially colluded to get Michigan signs. And then there was this whole Michigan branch of the Internet last night that said Pete had this information last week,

and he refused to report it, so they started giving him a nickname on the internet last night. Yeah, it's – I mean, every day it's something with this. What was the nickname? They were calling him Buckeye Pete. They were calling him Buckeye Pete. Whoa. I'm saying this all started because he applied to Michigan many, many years ago

and was rejected, and that's why he went to Syracuse instead. Pete? He held this resentment or grudge towards the University of Michigan for quite some time. That's what people are saying on the internet. Have you? Yeah. I mean, if you had to guess,

do you think Pete Thamel couldn't get into Michigan? I mean, that's quite laughable to me. We normally just cold call people. That is the show. All the time. But I do not know if this is. We normally just cold call people. Okay, that is the show. All the time. But I do not know if this is the right thing to cold call. Like, it is sitting right here on my phone. As soon as you started talking and then Tone started talking

and then the Pat versus Pete thing, I'm like, we just got to call Pete. We just got to call Pete right now. He's probably not able to answer, but I don't know if this is the right thing to do. Maybe a text. You know, might as well at least reach out. I do wonder.

They're calling you Buckeye Pete. They're calling him Buckeye Pete. Thoughts? I wonder if Pete ever thought it would get to this point. They're calling you Buckeye Pete. They're calling you Buckeye Pete. Let's see if he answers. Bob Kravitz was the one who reported about footballs being maybe deflated a little bit.

Son of a bitch. And his life in New England got absolutely ruined. You know, that became like what you heard Connor right there. Exactly. You think a lot of people in New England know beat reporters in Indianapolis, Indiana? No. Kravitz's name is known up there because he was the first one to report about the deflate gate and everything that kind of took place.

And then the conversation that happened around it. That is what the authority Pete Thamel is going to become for the Michigan people. But that's Pete's job. That's his job. He's the authority on this entire thing. But people saying that Pete refused to report something because it might not fit the narrative that he's at. I don't think you know Pete.

That would have been more news for Pete. For sure. That would have been like, that would have got it big. Well, here we go. Just an interesting little, you know, he's at. I don't think you know Pete. That would have been more news for Pete. For sure. That would have been like, that would have got it big. Well, here we go. Just an interesting little, you know, counterpunch. I like this. We've taken quite a turn here. Yeah, exactly.

Because now we can go this way, and there's an investigation now this way. Like, I think Pete Thamel would want more conversation about more potential, I don't want to say investigations, but certainly in his world, it's better than a sprained ankle. Yeah. A sprained ankle at a college kid or a coach who can be fired. It's like people saying that he withheld information, I don't know how that would be true. If you just look at Pete Thamel, the human, and how he operates,

as soon as he got that and it was confirmed, now granted it might have just been hearsay in his eyes, he might not have been able to get it completely locked in. That's coming out immediately because that's doing big. You know what I mean? So I just think that's kind of a little rude for them to say that about our friend Pete D'Amel. Also, I just

could you see all the other teams in the Big Ten colluding against Michigan? I mean, I understand that they've been saying that Michigan's comeback these last couple years has been in response to them having people's signs and stuff like that, but Michigan, before

Jim Harbaugh got there, they stunk for a long time. I have a hard time seeing the conference collude and be like, hey, we've got to take down Michigan. Unless they were all told, hey, Michigan's filming everybody's. We've got to come together to get it together. Then that adds a whole other layer to the story. Right.

Like actually all the teams knew about this last year. They just didn't say anything because they didn't think anything would happen. So they just decided, yeah, to hell with it. We'll all get their signs.

Interesting. And if Pete knew that, Pete would report that. We think. We believe. And joining us live from Manatee, Ohio, is a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, and a man who beat COVID 45 times.

Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. Yeah! Yeah! How you doing, bub? Good. A heck of a game last night, huh? Buddy, torture. Yeah, not good.

Nathaniel Hackett, last year, Denver Broncos offense coordinator. Worst games in the history of primetime. Last night, New York Jets offense. Nathaniel Hackett last year, Denver Broncos offense coordinator. Worst games in the history of primetime. Last night, New York Jets offense, Nathaniel Hackett offense coordinator. Worst game in the history of primetime. Starting to become a trend with this hack guy. Let's talk about him a little bit. He goes to Denver Broncos. He thinks there's a chance he's going to get Aaron Rodgers over there. He doesn't.

They get Russell Wilson instead. It ends up being a failure. He goes to the Jets. Guess who he gets? Aaron Rodgers. Whenever he was with Aaron Rodgers just a couple years back, his offense was awesome. It was beautiful. The West Coast offense has reasons. You know, it's a beautiful system.

If you see this, you do this, you kind of got to work it. You're able to move on any defense if you're able to identify it. Now, four plays in, he's back to Zach Wilson. And I got a text from Michael Cole the voice of the WWE and it says enough with Zach Wilson oh no Michael you think Nathaniel Hackett's saying the same damn thing and you think he's wondering about how boy this was not how these last two years were supposed to go what are your thoughts on the Jets and you think Aaron sees that and still thinks to himself I need to get back this year, AJ.

Yeah, of course. I mean, look, their defense still, we know, can play very, very well. But yeah, I'm sure. Don't you think the coaches are sitting there watching Aaron take like three, five-step drops in warm-ups and slanging that thing down the field like, okay, maybe, hopefully we're a little bit closer than we think. And this feels like this is possibly a reality here in the near future, right? So he was throwing last night and one of the higher angles had the full clip and somebody said uh like 50 yard throw this is 58 yards oh yeah okay this is 58 yard ball whoa that's because that guy jumped

to catch that so that ball hits probably three four yards into the end zone he's throwing about 60 yards right now okay now i know he's one of the most talented arms in the history of throwing football, but the amount of torque and spin and on that particular Achilles plant and everything, that's a big deal. I think it is development.

He obviously looks very comfortable. His shoes are absurd. I think that's just going to be a new normal for him and how it's going to go. But if you're Aaron, obviously you tell Derwin James afterwards, couple of weeks, give me a couple of weeks or a few weeks or whatever he said. That's the mindset.

But when you see that offense, there's no chip help on Bosa who's just going absolutely bananas. They got Zach Wilson sitting back there naked, five guys protecting, completely white. It's like, you think Aaron watches any of this and thinks to himself, yeah, maybe I do let them figure out an offensive line. Maybe I do let them figure out what the right offense is. Maybe, oh yeah, it was

bananas from Bosa, but maybe I do decide that I'm 39 years old. I wonder if that creeps in at all or if he's just all mindset on getting back on the field immediately and showcasing to the Jets fans everything that they hoped, but that was absurd. That was absurd.

That was a grown man wrapping his arm around another grown man and then grabbing an adult and tossing him like he was a baby. I mean, that is bananas that happened all night last night, and somehow they weren't able to stop it. But do you think there is a chance that that creeps in? We'll talk to him in about an hour. But last night as I was watching that game, I was thinking to myself, like, Aaron's got to be like, nah, maybe not.

Nah, maybe not. But he's different than all of us, I would assume. Yeah, I don't know. That never crossed my mind. I feel like he watches and he is just itching to get back out there. No matter what is happening on the field, yeah, he wants him to win. He wants him to be put in a good spot and playoff position. But no, I feel like he's watching.

He's like, hey, if I was out there, I would be lighting this thing up. I think his confidence is probably at an all-time high. I do like the fact that he's watching. He's like, hey, if I was out there, I would be lighting this thing up. Like, I think his confidence is probably an all-time high. I do like the fact that he's watching his plays. He's like, now, and then Zach doesn't do it. He's like, these sacks are coming. You know, this is what happens with this West Coast offense. If you're not on time, you're not in rhythm, then you're asking your offensive line to do something that they can't do.

That's on us as quarterbacks as opposed. I assume those are his inside thoughts. But I think – how many games are you going to win with that offense? You know what I mean? Well, that's the thing, though. This is the NFL. It's so weird week to week. We don't know.

Their offense might look like gangbusters next week. We don't really know. I don't think any of us are thinking that. Stop doing that. I'm trying to stay positive. I'm trying to stay positive. Zach has looked actually very good at times. So I'm just saying, can he put it together for four quarters?

Threw it 49 times last time. I don't know if that's going to be the recipe. Definitely not the recipe. Honestly, I don't think Zach played that bad. The protection was bad. He could have definitely had a better feel about, you know, when pressure's around him, when to tuck it, maybe throw it away, take a sack. I don't think he played horrible.

And the defenses are going to be different if Aaron Rodgers gets back in there this year. They're not going to have as many guys in the box or sending those same type of pressure because you've got to respect the passing game more. They were sitting on a lot of those routes. But there were some drops. There were some stupid penalties. There were a lot of different things

outside of that. Turnovers. Three turnovers. Bumbles. Punt return. We're terrible. The punt return early. That was the first touchdown. I hated that. I hated it so much. Thomas Morse announced he got announced out there. He was AFC Special Teams Player of the Week.

He did the interview on the Monday Night Football kickoff. He did fantastic throughout his whole warm-up. He hits a bomb here trying to be aggressive. And yeah, I mean four guys could have made tackles. They didn't. In past games, the Jets special teams would have done that. They've also run a lot of fakes.

Their special teams has been an asset and a weapon for them. At the beginning of the game last night, it was kind of a detriment there to start early. And as you start seeing these things start, it's like the Jets ain't going to be able to catch up to this. Because normally special teams scoring for them. Special teams are setting up for them. And instead it was the complete opposite of that. Garrett Wilson still an absolute weapon. Shout to Derwin James staying in bounds and recovering that.

I thought he was for sure out of bounds before he could handle it. Great athlete. Great athlete. Great player. But, yeah, there was unfortunate things where the football gods were working against them as well, I think is what you're kind of saying. Yeah, and I thought about you after the kickoff after that punt return. The kick returner, fair catches it in the field of play.

It's happening. That's terrible. Yeah, they were sloppy. Got to take care of the ball. They saw a return for a touchdown. I just took one. You just saw one to go to the crib, and now it's like usually as a returner. I've been a returner before.

He just took one. I got to take one. You know, Miles would think about TJ on the other side. Like, it's always that extra. If you're a quarterback, you're thinking about the other quarterback and how they're performing. I just can take one. You know, Miles was thinking about TJ on the other side. Like, it's always that extra. If you're a quarterback, you're thinking about the other quarterback and how they're performing. I just can't imagine. Like, the coaches got to just be telling them, like, hey,

we're fair catching this regardless of where it is. Because you fair catching, what, the four-yard line? Like, that's – It's going to start becoming a weapon for teams that take it serious. Not that it hasn't in the past, but all these teams that are waving for fair catch on kickoff return, I think that they think they can just mail it in on special teams. Like, all right, we don't have to spend as much time on kickoff return period.

We don't have to spend as much time on whatever. You're losing reps on your core teamers, and it doesn't get you until it gets you. And I think, like, there are teams that are taking it. We need to start jotting down teams that refuse to do a fair catch. Colts aren't one of them. I was embarrassed. I was embarrassed to be in the stadium whenever I saw it. I was disgusted.

What are we? Is that guy not paid to coach special teams over there? What the hell are you doing? You can't put a damn return in this week. Why are we? How about these guys are playing on special teams? Are they getting paid to do this? Big phase of the game.

Why are we just opting out to just get out? They could take it to the crib literally any single time. And I don't want to say that that's why numbers are down, scoring's down, but why not? Anytime you're neutering your team by saying, nah, we don't want to take an opportunity to maybe go, it's going to send a message, it's going to send a tone. I hate that it's happening, AJ.

I hate it. Thank you for bringing it up, D-Buck. Who's making the decision, though? I would assume these special teams coaches probably are being ordered from the head coach or whoever. Hey, we're just going to fair catch in these certain situations, I guess. But you're right. It doesn't get you until it gets you.

Are we going to see a bunch of returns, though, late in the season when the games really matter and in the playoffs to where teams may not be as prepared to stop a return? Bingo. That's what I'm saying. Their core special teamers aren't going to be as good as other teams' core special teamers. And there's going to be teams that take advantage of that there's going to be fakes there's going to be throwbacks there's going to be things that kind of take place and it's like let's try let's try this team that has opted out of doing special teams yes at the professional level even though people are all getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do it it's an embarrassment it is

an embarrassment for the game it's embarrassment for the team it's an embarrassment for the player you're a professional football player you're a professional football player and you're standing at your own tent with a ball coming to you say well i'm here to catch it it's embarrassment for the coach it's embarrassment and they don't even know it i think that's the biggest problem especially for the jets when you know what's going on with zach wilson it's like okay even fair catch great You start at the 25, but why not get an opportunity where you start at the 40 or something like that? That's what's interesting with their offense, too, is

last year, we're talking about Hackett. Last year, they fired Michael Flohr, and it was like, hey, it's this guy's fault. That's what's really hampering Zach Wilson's development. I think they were averaging 17 points a game with him last year. They're averaging 14 with Hackett. Situations like that, why would

you not? If they do break one loose and they start at the 50, is that not something that maybe jumpstarts Zach Wilson and the offense a little bit as opposed to at the 25, now Bosa's just going to be able to pin his ears back again. Zach's going to get stripped and sacked and we're going to be in the same situation

that we've been in all night. It makes no sense. Yeah, and I think Jets fans are sick of it. Oh, yeah. Offense is struggling. It would make sense to take everything out. But, K-Man, we've got to help our offense as much as we possibly can. We've got to take a few of these back, and we've got to set our offense up with short field.

Which I think is what Thomas Morstead had been saying all week during the interviews. He's like, yeah, we're being told to be aggressive on special teams because of the situation that it is. But go ahead. No, I'm saying that's how they won week one against Buffalo. It was a walk-off with Gibson, right? Yeah.

They went to the crib. And I'm thinking back, it was one team, the Bears. And obviously they had Devin Hester, who was the GOAT back there. But we were probably more worried about their special teams unit than their offense at that time. And Zito's obviously been a fan of that. But for years, that offense with Peanut Tillman and Corey Graham and obviously Hester returning the ball, like that was a scary unit.

And the Jets should – they obviously got the defense. If you have a special teams unit as well where your offense maybe only has to put up 14, 17 points a game, you probably win more games. We can't be fair catching. Just can't happen. Just can't. It can't. This can't be what catching. Just can't happen. Just can't. It can't. This can't be what the league becomes.

We're playing international now. Yeah. This is what we're showcasing. World's game. We're showing the soccer. Just confusing them. You think this is confusing some of the casual new international fans? So.

Wait a minute. So what happens there? It just moves. It just moves at 25. So why are they even doing the kick? Who did anything good here? The last guy caught it eight yards deep, and he took it out. Yeah, that's an option.

You can do that. Well, why would you do that? Well, you're not. See, that's the. See, you don't know. There's a lot to question. Yeah, we don't really understand it. Roger Goodell forced it through, and now every team's trying to use it.

And it's just so they can save practice time. That's 100% what it is. You should send a memo. Here's my memo. Stop it. 32 teams. Send it over. Cut it. Cut this. Hey! Stop it.

Can't have it. And you're going to lose because of it later in the season. Somebody's going to get you. And it's because you're not getting yours ever. So you're going to get God. You don't use it, you lose it. That's happening's going to get you. And it's because you're not getting yours ever. So you're going to get got. That's just kind of how, you don't use it, you lose it. That's happening to a lot of you.

Okay? And you're going to get got. Boom. Memo. Send it in. Send it in. Send it to this Colts facility too. What an embarrassment.

What an absolute embarrassment, this Colts team doing that. Right in front of my face. Yeah. Right in front of my face with a good returner. This guy's a good returner. Has taken him in the back. Staying on his three or something. Let it bounce in the my face. Yeah. Right in front of my face with a good returner. This guy's a good returner. Has taken him in the back. Staying on his three or something.

Let it bounce in the end zone. Right. If you're going to be an embarrassment to football, let it bounce in the end zone. I know it's not his decision, but it was disgusting. Yeah, it's ridiculous. And if the Colts do that against the Patriots this weekend, then they're absolute buffoons because you can get anything against them. But even when special teams coaches can try and use it in the opposite way,

like what did the Raiders do last year on their kickoff? And it was actually helping them a ton because I forget what they were doing with the tee. A little higher. They were holding the ball a little higher on the tee. Instead of putting it inside of it. Yeah, on the back end. Yeah, they held it on the end.

And it helped them a ton. But then what happened? People found out about it and then they banned that. So even if you try and get some sort of advantage out of it as the kickoff team, they're just going to ban that too. This is disgusting. This is disgusting. I heard a coach from Ohio,

Coach of the Titans, was potentially on a competition committee too. Yeah, he was. Let that go through. Coach from Pittsburgh was too. Yeah, he argued though. Yeah, he wasn't happy about it. He reluctantly put his hand They haven't fair caught one So what's that tell you

Boom Okay Danny Smith ain't Yeah Well actually Special teams coordinator They did have a Returner

Drag both of his toes Oh yeah When the ball was going Out of bounds What's that guy's name They got rid of him Yeah He was on the Giants

What was his name I don't like Will not now. What was his name? I don't like that. I will not be spoken. What was his name? You know his name. Gillespie? What was his name?

Gunner is a cool first name. It was. Super cool name. What was his last name? Gunner Ol- Ol-Shevsky. Ol-Shevsky. Oh. He did not have a good run in Pittsburgh.

No, he did. It did not work out well for him. Hey, did you hear Tony apologized to the Bengals earlier? The Bengals fans and everything? Yeah, I did. I didn't feel like it was super sincere, but you know what? It's the effort that counts. Well, nobody, that second half of your sentence there,

nobody in Cincinnati is giving him credit for the effort at all. Those words got out of his mouth. I apologize to Cincinnati. At one point, those words exited his lips. Nobody's really listening to that. They are not taking it as sincere as I thought it came out. I will say this about the Cincinnati Bengals, though, whenever we learned on the internet last night that it wasn't like the team

that put the t-shirts out. AJ, that is absurd to think that all those fans were able to coordinate that themselves. And I think that just continues to feed into the fact that the jungle over there in Cincinnati is one of the best places to play football in the entire NFL I love what they're cooking AJ I love what they're yeah I was I so when I first heard like the whole stripe thing at first I'm like man that doesn't seem like something the Bengals will do would spend a bunch of money to put t-shirts at every single every single chair like that's a ton of money man like that's not really their mo so then

when you hear that the fans get together and they somehow communicate with everybody and they do it, that's unbelievable. How many? 70,000 people? I mean, you'd say at least 50,000 took part. All right, so let's say those Gildan shirts, if you're going to get 65,000 of them,

are like $8, $7. Right around there. 65,000 times seven. Just $455,000. You don't think Mike Brown's putting that out? You don't think he's putting that out for a good? Nah, I don't think so. No, you don't think so?

Daddy needs a new boat. I mean, he would. I bet he would now. But no, I don't think he would choose to do that. Well, congratulations to their fan base. That's incredible. That is very impressive. Other fan bases should try to do the same thing

without having the owner have to pay for it. Hey, let's get together and let's all do something together collectively as a whole. Now, and I will say most other places will say, hey, billionaire, we're coming to your building. We paid a lot of money to get in here and we're paying 10 bucks for a beer and 14 bucks for a corn dog. And we are making your team a lot better than maybe they have in the past looked with our fan base. So why don't you pay seven bucks and give me a T-shirt? Please. Take seven bucks out of the $150 that I paid for this ticket and give me a

t-shirt. A lot of other places will say that the fact that the bangles are just like, they ain't ever going to do that. Okay. So if we want something cool, we got to do it. I appreciate that. Yeah.

I respect that. Should though. And other owners should do this. The bangles owner should for sure, because I've learned that the bangles fans are so thin-skinned that I'm worried about them getting hypothermia for the next game. So they should buy them extra layers of clothing. Jackets are like

$60, $70. I mean, could you fathom if... I guess they don't respect a good rivalry over there. $65,000 times $65 for a jacket. That's only $4.25 million. Yeah, I don't think so. Joining us now is a man who is also an Ohio fella.

He's a guy who has been the consummate professional whenever it comes to ranking college football teams this season. He actually so accurate that the college football playoff committee just copied him last week in their first real one. Before they get a chance to debut the second

college football playoff ranking ladies and gentlemen it's time for the generals top five with bobby carpenter how you doing babo hey i'm doing great and i'm just pretty pumped that you're talking about cincinnati pulling out was a little cheesy there they put on for their city man you you got to realize who your owner is and what you're doing. You can't have a Monday night or Sunday night party and not have any of the little extras around. So kudos to them for getting that done. Yeah. I might forgive. I won't forget. Great album out of Jeezy. He did. And they did put on for their city. Let's, um,

let's chit chat about you putting on a little bit. Great shirt. Great shirt. It's just for my guy over there. The captain of the OSU squad. My captain, if you will. Mr. Aaron Mott. That's a general, and that's captain. Like Captain Connor Stallion? Is that what you're talking about,

Bob? Maybe a captain of a different sort, but yeah. AJ, listen, he's a sneaky little dude. He can kind of get himself into anywhere. Oh, sneaky little dude dude i like to hear that we'll expound upon that in the next hour for sure i think that's from your people at homage homage that is absolutely correct sir incredible merch company we don't do business with them but we do appreciate the hell out of them speaking of merch i believe we'll be debuting a new store tomorrow let's go

really just kind of out of nowhere probably should have made a video for that. Holy shit. Yeah, it just kind of came together. Sweet. Yeah, pretty sweet. I think it's happening. Anyways, let's move on. General, I'm excited to hear your take on the top six

before the college football playoff committee gets a chance to do theirs this evening at 7 p.m. on ESPN. Any moving? Any shaking? I guess let's dive right in. There is a little bit of movement here. We'll start with the first two teams out. Records matter. On the field matters. But I'm telling you, I've watched this team the last couple of weeks. So I've got the Oregon Ducks sitting there at my 6B, and I had to knock

Florida State out. They're sitting there at my 6A, if you will. Florida State didn't play all that well against Pitt. I know I'm with a bunch of yinzers. But listen, the Pig Panthers haven't been exactly ideal this year. Not in Los Angeles. Not in Los Angeles. Not great. Well, apparently a lot of yellow seats at those games.

Everybody's dressed like yellow. You know Cincinnati Bengals did the black and the orange? Pitt, everybody dressed like a seat. Come out to the game. That's what happens. Go ahead. They beat us, though, I guess, in junior year or so. Way to go. Way to go, Pitt. Sorry for dredging that up, Pat.

No, they do. They break hearts. That's why they potentially could have done that to Florida State. That is something they could have pulled off. They kept that thing close. It was 10-7 at halftime, and Florida State didn't really play all that well. Listen, Oregon, all they've done is just run roughshod after losing in that tight game to Washington. They smacked Cal.

And so I'm sitting there like, if I could jump them over top of Florida State, I probably would. So I've got those two guys sitting as my first two out. So that means number four sliding in after a big victory against USC, a game which there was really minimal defense played. I've got the Washington Huskies sitting there.

Hey, baby, Pennix. Yeah, they're sliding in. I mean, Michael Pennix Jr. didn't have the best statistical game, gentlemen, but I go back, there's a third down where he's rolling to the side and throws a dart down the sideline into the end zone for a touchdown. I mean, the guy's as skilled as they come. And if you're going to try to get in a scoring match with him, you're going to have a hell of a time trying to beat him.

Yeah, Ron Madunze, also a dog. Jalen Polk is a freak show. I mean, we got a chance to watch that game live, obviously, with the college football red zone thing we did on Saturday, which was so sweet. Just need to lose about 16 of the 18 commercials. That's right. 16 of the 18 of them. If we're able to do that,

I think it would be a much better evening, but had a blast doing it, and the reason why is because that Washington-USC game was so damn electrifying. This means that you're giving a lot of credit to USC, though, as well, right? You think that this was a big win because they beat USC? Because USC can score. I mean, you guys watch out there. Caleb Williams, he had a fumble. He had some mistakes, but listen, this guy's tremendous. They've gotten an elite offense.

They just can't stop anybody. And that's eventually what got them. And so listen, USC, oh goodness, I think they're taking on Oregon this week. So that should be a nice matchup. We'll see what goes on there. And then Washington takes on Utah. So it should be a nice matchup. We'll see what goes on there. And then Washington takes on Utah. So it'll be interesting. You got one team that scores a lot, one team that plays a lot of defense and can score. And then Washington obviously take it on Utah. Defensive stalwarts try to slow the game down.

And this is going to be a little bit of a styles makes fight matchup this week. So super excited for that one as well. Sitting there at number three, slid them down a little bit. They looked okay. makes fight matchup this week. So super excited for that one as well. Sitting there at number three, slid them down a little bit. They looked okay. It's more really about the team at number two, but I've got the Michigan Wolverines sitting at three this week.

Oh, they were number two last week. There's a little bit of movement down from two to three. Are they on their way out because of Connor Stallion? Uh-oh. Well, it's not that. I mean, they beat up Purdue pretty good.

It's a function of just watching the game. Like, they're not running the ball as effectively as they did last year. Now, that can all change. You sit there and look at it. You know, I believe they had, you know, 110 rushing yards, which this is a team that used to roll up 200 easy all the time. You have Blake Corum. You have Donovan Edwards.

Those guys ripping off long runs, doing it out of the backfield. Not quite as productive as this year. And then they also gave up 125 yards on the ground to Purdue. That's not besmirching Purdue, but they haven't been the best rushing team. And we'll get a nice taste this week, gentlemen, because heading over to Pennsylvania, you will see the Michigan Wolverines taking on the Nittany Lions this week, big noon kick for Fox.

So that's going to be a heck of a ball game right there, and we'll see how that thing shakes out. Huge game, especially with all the allegations and everything that's kind of cooking. General Bob Carpenter, obviously you're on top of all the college football news. Were you a part of the crew at Ohio State alongside Ryan Day, who had to answer these

questions and others that said you know what i've seen this little sawed-off prick sitting in the stands recording everything with these glasses as if he was old school internet porn guy from the pov trying to steal this stuff how do you Where do you stand right now as an Ohio State guy, clearly? Not only you live in Columbus, you have a talk show in Columbus, and the team you've had at number one since before the year was probably not supposed to be there before the year, but you've been there.

But how do you feel about all of the revelations that have taken place? Now it's being said by Pat Forty that all the other Big Ten schools were colluding to get Michigan signals? So how do you feel about it and what do you think inevitably happens? And will you judge them on the field because of all this type of stuff that we're learning? I'm going to judge them the same way I have all year, you know, once this stuff leaked out.

So, you know, if they beat Penn State, you know what? Good job to them. You know, obviously, I think they have Maryland and then Ohio State. So they've got a tough three-game stretch. We'll see how that shakes out. You know, as far as kind of where everything is, you know, it's really pretty amazing. Like, there's things that are against the rules. I didn't make them, you know, but they're out there.

And you're not allowed to do advanced scouting. You're not allowed to record signals. They have people doing both. Like, there's, from what I've been told, it's pretty lockstep that there's documented video evidence of all of these things occurring. And I had a friend of mine who's a Michigan fan. You know, you play with the Lions and in the Midwest, you get some Michigan fans that are friends.

And one of the guys wouldn't come off the fact that he said, well, I don't know if it's really Connor Stallion's in the seats. He was maybe paying a third party. So is that still illegal? I'm like, dude, I mean, what are we talking about here? just because like we're in the champagne room there's no touching there's touching like we really split hairs on what we're really looking at hairs here like i mean it just there was just a lot of stuff a lot of stuff and then they tried to like kind of dump it out there well ryan day hired a pi or his brother like which I guess is found out not to be true. And

I'm like, listen, man, if your wife has video of you walking out of a hotel room with a hooker, you don't sit there and complain where the video came from. It's more about the fact that you're trying to defend yourself about walking out of there. Hey, sounds like a situation you should never try to find yourself in. I couldn't even fathom. I couldn't even fathom trying to have that conversation. But what you're saying is, from what you're hearing, and I guess we're kind of hearing this as well, because the Big Ten has come out and said that they are looking into it and they've given, allegedly, a list of things that Michigan has done wrong

and the evidence that they have. And Michigan has until tomorrow, end of day, to respond. And then maybe the Big Ten will punish Michigan, even before this weekend is being alleged. A lot of alleged. Feels like it's all getting so muddied right now. Like the stories. Like, oh, there was a PI, there's

CIA, there was this. It's starting to get to a point where it's almost absurd. Last night when this Michigan news dropped about the other Big Ten teams colluding about signs, there's people saying, like, well, and Pete had this news a week. It's like, you think Pete Thamel would hold that news

while he's in the middle of a Pulitzer run right now? No way. It's like, but every single day there's more shit getting thrown out there. I wonder what's real. I wonder what's not. And I wonder if we'll ever know. You know, I wonder if we'll ever know. The coaches, I mean, you heard Ryan Walters of Purdue come out

and say last week, he's like, these aren't thoughts. I mean, these are actions. This is reality. This is what happened. So, no, no, they dumped all the allegations on Michigan. So, instead of saying, well, other people are doing something that's legal, we're all coaches. If you're friends, you talk.

And I think the rest of the coaches in the Big Ten have known this was going on. So, they may be helping each other probably, but I don't think there was any recording of stuff or sending it around, at least not to my knowledge. So I'm curious where Tony Petitti goes with this. It's his first year as Big Ten commissioner. So, man, kudos to you to try to figure out a ruling. Stephen A. Smith said this morning down at Winston-Salem State University,

formerly Slater Industrial Academy. That's in 1892. No big deal. He said, ban him. Ban him from the college football playoff. I was like, damn. I had not heard somebody just say that as open. But then he started listing off the reasons.

It's like, if they cheated to get to this point, why are they taking another school's position? It's like, well, I think they're executing very well. They're playing very good. Did the kids know that Connor Stallion was wearing a hat on Central Michigan? And then Stephen A. and Shannon Sharp said, did the kids on the other team that didn't cheat, do they not deserve a spot in college football playoff over Michigan? I'm like, oh, I guess we could grandstand all day on who deserves what.

I'll be excited to see what the Big Ten does. That would have to be an NCAA ruling, though, right? To ban college football playoff. And the NCAA does nothing fast. Well, they could ban them from the Big Ten championship game, which then you'd have a hard time getting in if you're not the Big Ten champ. I'm going to be honest, guys. I'm going to say it right.

I hope that that does not happen. We agree. I would like to see Ohio State. I think everybody would like to see Ohio State or Penn State beat them over the next couple of weeks and change that, but I'm not a fan of banning them from the Big Ten championship game. Figure out other penalties. If it's hardball related, I don't know.

But just I'm not a fan of that right now. So I just want to make that abundantly clear. Because we're already in the middle of this, dude. You can't just stop the season right now. Yeah, and some of the seniors, this is their last. Come on. But also, hey, other schools too. What about the kids at Michigan State

that had to learn that there was somebody on the other sideline at Central Michigan that was documenting their every move. So all their work was for naught because they were going to lose anyways. What about those kids? I love the whataboutism about it all, but I will say, what about how good they are

as a football team? You dropped them a little bit because Blake Corham is not running as many yards. He's still scoring touchdowns. And JJ's still throwing it all over the place. Big one in Penn State, though. Let's move to number two. Congrats to us, by the way, breaking that all down in a super professional, non-biased manner.

How'd you do it? Two Ohio State people on the screen. Mm-hmm. Felt like we were pretty non-biased there. Good for us. This is journalism. That's great. This is journalism.

JJ, we were non-biased. You know how tiny? That's a tiny J, man. That's a subscript is journalism. Jay, we were not about to tell you. You know how tiny, that's a tiny Jay, man. That's a subscript Jay as small as you can get, guys. I mean, I'm not going to claim myself a journalist by any stretch. Well, nobody's claiming us as journalists, but we are on JSPN. So that is what, we're on Journalism Sports Network. So that is exactly what we are.

Anyways, go ahead, Bob. All right, number two, after a nice, impressive win over Mizzou, who I think is a little better than what people were giving him credit for. You got the Georgia Bulldogs. Carson Beck looks pretty good. He's been playing a clean game. The one thing with Georgia this year, like you remember the past two years, Pat, they had a smothering and suffocating defense.

And I'm watching Mizzou, who I know doesn't recruit at quite the same level. I know they've been winning games, and Schrader's a good runner, and they've got some talent. But, man, they rolled up 151 yards on them on the ground, which you would have never seen that a couple years ago from a Georgia team. So you're thinking maybe there's a weakness down there. Well, in Ole Miss this week, in Lane Kiffin, they talk about Lane. He is kind of a sneaky visor guy.

He's an offensive coordinator visor guy, which they need visors, Pat, because their brains are so big, you have to let them breathe in there. So most of the time, those guys like to throw the ball. But Lane, however, I mean, he wants to get that thing on the ground and pound it. So we'll see what that happens. Ole Miss, I think a 10-point dog,

but I think that game could be a little closer. Quinjohn Judkins, I believe, is the name of the running back down there at Ole Miss. And they have a transfer, Dart? No, Jackson Dart. His quarterback, I believe, down there. And Lane Kiffin, 6 a.m. hot yoga now. That's right. It's a whole different Lane Kiffin.

This might be the best Lane Kiffin that's ever been activated. Excited to get down to Athens for College Game Day and our show, which will be live on Friday. And who's at number one, General Bob Carpenter? Well, we've got the Ohio State Buckeyes. Way to go, Ohio State. Travion Henderson.

Hey, when he's come back, Travion's had 200-plus total yards in the last two games. You see how fast and explosive he looks. He's a cheat code back there for Kyle McCord. Talk about poor quarterback play in the NFL. When you can dump a check down to a guy who takes it 65 yards, that's not the worst thing in the world. And Marvin still had two touchdowns.

And hell, they had a defensive score. So they've been getting it done in a multitude of ways. So excited and really can't wait for these next three weeks with the college football playoffs. I got two gimmicks for you this week. And this one, I was burying Clemson last week I thought they were done Pat you know the rain is over they're going to be

four and five Notre Dame was going to do to them what they did last year I had to give it to my guy man he's getting the Stratton Oakmont Jordan Biford freaking award I'm not leaving buy stock right now in the Clemson Tigers.

Yellen, this is as low as we're going to be, man. So good for him. Well, I appreciate the fact that Dabo, too, heard all. You know, it wasn't just Tyler. No, no, no. It wasn't just Tyler. It was everybody. He heard.

And they get a massive, massive win and bounce back. You think Cade Klubnick is going to be able to continue the run here? You think Jordan Belfort's going to go from penny stocks and then move right into the next thing that he's selling Steve Madden's shoes? You think he's going to be able to do that, Bob Carpenter? Well, we'll see if he can get all the way there, but if they can run the ball like they did, they've got a shot. Because that's the problem, man.

They haven't been able to run the ball, and they did it without Will Shipley in that game. So kudos to them. I mean, Davo, he rallied them up, and they haven't been able to run the ball, and they did it without Will Shipley in that game. So kudos to them. I mean, Dabo, he rallied them up, and they played really, really good. He ran down that hill. He did. He ran down that hill, didn't he? In the khakis.

Dabo's been doing the conditioning test, I think, with his team for the last 40 years. My man likes to leg it out, and he runs hard. Like you, you're saying. Like you, you're saying. I can only hope to be in as good a shape as Dabo. And then I got one more for you. I think you're a bad shot.

They've been playing Bedlam since before both schools were even in a state. It was the Oklahoma territory. They've been playing this thing for well over 100 years, and Oklahoma has dominated. But sometimes all you need in life is a walk-off you call you call bank well my man the mullet master he called game and mike gundy and the oklahoma state cowboys getting it done they may have had a little bit of help from the official holding his flag there at the end on a pi they Wizard, yeah. They got it. What?

Is that Chris Boussard? I think it is. Nick! We don't need to go there. We don't need to put Chris Boussard in your pocket right now. So what happened? How did Paul Pierce get in a Wizards jersey? Yeah, what happened here?

What did? What happened? Okay, so Paul Pierce, he hit a buzzer beater when he was playing for the Wizards, it was bank and they asked him did you call bank and he said no i called game bingo okay that's why the quote that yeah okay all right he pulled it all together listen i was well it was good research there and i was curious if he was gonna have the wizards jersey on because no one remembers paul pierce with the wizards nope kind of like like Michael Jordan. You slide it in at the end. I was excited to see. Well, there's a lot of things like that.

I thought that was a potential completely blown graphic. Yeah, me too. And I was excited to see how we were getting there. Did you see that video of him holding that trophy up over his head afterwards when he was talking to the team? And that thing's going to live there forever. A little pettiness between those two because they could certainly continue to schedule that.

Other teams have been able to do that that have left conferences, but instead Oklahoma State says, Good riddance. It's our trophy forever. I appreciate the hell out of you, General. Have a great day, pal. Thank you, sir. Ladies and gentlemen, the General, Bob Carpenter.

Yeah, General! It's awesome what's going on with Michigan. It really is. It really is. There's a little update tidbit. I don't know if you saw. What's that? From old Greg Doyle in the group text.

Hold on, let me tell you. On three sports, who I believe is a pretty reputable college thing, Pat McAfee believes Michigan taking a college football playoff spot would be absolute bullshit if found guilty. I think them taking a spot out of the four college football teams would be absolute bullshit. I think we're think them taking a spot out of the four college football teams

would be absolute bullshit. I think we're not the only people who feel that way. I think a lot of college football people feel that way. Until we see it, I think it's hard for me to say these 18- to 23-year-olds who are playing great football deserve to just have their entire season wiped away because of Connor Stallions and Harbaugh, potentially. I mean, I feel like that's pretty fair, Steve.

Absolutely. Yeah, I'm getting murdered by that. That was my take on first take, pretty much, where Stephen A. said, ban him, ban him. You know, he went that whole thing, and he said, don't you agree? And it was like, I guess if it comes out that the videos were so absurd,

and they were using, like, AI to figure out what was going on. And if the players and everybody knew exactly what was happening, then they were all in on the conspiracy to kind of dominate these people, and they're clearly cheating, and they know that what was happening. Then they were all in on the conspiracy to kind of dominate these people, and they're clearly cheating, and they know that they're cheating.

But until we see something, it's going to be hard for me to say, 18 to 23-year-olds, maybe even 25-year-olds, depending upon how old some of their COVID years are, just taking their ear from them is bananas. But I don't think a lot of people that read that tweet got past that first statement, especially because On3Sports led that that I think it would be absolute bullshit.

That's not really. Hey, on three sports, go to hell. How about that? Yeah, you just put me in a war. You just put me in a war. And I guess those are my words, but I've been pretty pro-Michigan through this entire thing. I think if you were to listen to my takes from literally weeks ago when this all started. Yeah, when we were at Ohio State when it first came out,

there was a lot of, ah, who cares? Yeah, then on game day when it came out, ah, who cares? I thought everybody does this. And then we were taught about the rules, about how you can't do that. Some penitent advantage. And then we're like, oh, maybe there is something. What's the deal with him selling vacuums? What's that about?

Who's that? I don't know. Connor probably knows. Connor, Boston Connor. Actually, that about? Who's that? I don't know. Connor probably knows. Connor, Boston Connor. Actually, don't. This is actually something I do not know. See, this is what I'm talking about. It was put in the group chat.

It was put in the group chat. All I saw was selling refurbished vacuums. That's the only thing I saw. Yeah, but Bruce is a Michigan man. He is a Michigan man. He's been doing a lot. He's been doing a lot. The Wall Street Journal did like a deep dive on Connor Stallions

and his ambitions since 16 of becoming Michigan's head coach. Age 16, not 2016. Yeah, yeah, age 16. And he bought a house near Ann Arbor, in Ann Arbor, and was refurbishing vacuums and reselling them on Amazon as a kind of side hustle. Yeah, they said he was only making 50 grand, so who's paying for all these tickets?

Who's doing all this stuff? Who knows? Somebody else had to know. You know, somebody else had to know. Unless he's going on SeatGeek. Could be going on SeatGeek. That'd be a smart move. I almost dropped that on first take.

Stephen A was talking about taxes, state taxes, and income taxes. He's going to pay 50 grand. How's he buying all these tickets? Who's buying all these tickets? I was like, well, you got SeatGeek. You can get the best deal for all this. $30. And the moon.

Good old green dot next to it. Will we ever know? Will we ever know everything? That's my biggest thing. No chance. The players don't know either. Sorry to cut you off, but there's no way all the players can know how in-depth it was. Because think how many players on our team and how many disgruntled players you have on a team at one time

that will snitch and tell people what's going on outside of the program. Well, and it's like, did Harbaugh even know? And I know people are like, he had to have known. And I think that's what Stephen A said to me this morning. Like, you don't think the head coach knew that he was getting tickets to games and sitting on the sideline? That's pretty a lot. And I guess that's a pretty valid point. But also, there's a chance that this guy was hired and said, hey, from the Navy navy also marines captain love michigan i have an ability to be able to figure out what other teams are doing that is a weapon people hire x uh special forces people in the nfl i don't know about college but that is something that does

get added to nfl teams and if he was just like i can i can decipher codes like that is what my thing is and then he just gets so good at it and then he gets addicted to it. Then he gets overzealous. Then he's like, oh, I'm making a lot of people happy. Then he keeps going. That's definitely what the Michigan people are going to sell. But I can also see how Harbaugh would be like, I don't want to know. I don't want to know how this guy is getting it. I don't want to know how you know.

Don't tell me how you know. This guy's great. On game day, just watch it. The only thing I know is that he's watching and he's just picking it up in real time. And whoever's Connor's boss, whoever it is, if it's Jim Harbaugh, then I guess this is the only the only thing i know is that he's watching and he's just picking up in real time and whoever's connor's boss whoever it is if it's jim harbaugh then i guess this changes the conversation but whoever he his boss's reports to he's telling jim he's like this guy's got everybody signs harbaugh's like great love having you here we're paying you what fifty thousand dollars perfect this is amazing uh hey coach i'm thinking about going to whoa whoa whoa nope earmuffs earm nope here you go i don't know the hell

out of here i don't i guess that is all possible but harbaugh reaped the benefits of all this you know so he's certainly gonna get punished for it all if everything we're hearing is true well it's on his watch right like i feel like it's a much different situation but the situation in northwestern where everything was happening like no matter what they were like hey the coach knew like whether or not he turned an eye to it or whatever but with harbaugh and specifically stallions you wonder if maybe he did sell his name connor stallions there it is you wonder if he did sell the bag of goods like you're saying like i can decipher these signs and then he tried to do it probably couldn't and then said okay it looks like i gotta you know

boots on the ground take this up a notch okay we didn't win the war by not having boots on the ground so that's probably when he went over and that is an interesting thing because he said he was going to do it through the tv copies exactly and then as he was watching tv cups they don't show us anything you can't see you can't see anything they won't give us a good shot on anything will you get the sideline is a big part of the game. Can we start zooming in on the Teletubbies five wide that are making the calls and doing this entire thing? Central Michigan thing is bizarre.

Bizarre, buddy. That's crazy. But like you were saying about the other schools like Michigan State and some of these other teams, it's like, well, they still lost six games. So it's like I don't think we should be saying like, oh, these kids, they didn't have a fair opportunity or whatever but maybe there is i don't know if there's prior precedent to them making a decision mid-season about a team not being able to go to like the college football playoff that same season like anytime you look at these massive scandals

like it's always after the fact they They never penalize that specific team. Like, whether it was SMU with, like, the death penalty or all the stuff with Miami. Like, they weren't coming down on them midseason and saying, hey, you guys can't go to a bowl this year. It was always, hey, we're going to take our time, and then after the season's over, then we'll kind of move on there. Yeah, let's give Reggie his Heisman back. You know what I mean?

They've said they are not going to do that. They've said it with their actions. Yeah, they have. That's gotten real loud from a lot of people. Like, yeah, let's give the guys Heisman back. Why? Why not? What did you just say?

Shut up. He still won it. He still won it, though. Like, with him, okay, I'm still the Heisman winner. Yeah, he's not in the commercials. He doesn't have the physical trophy now, which he should have. Oh, the Heisman house. Yeah, he could be in the Heisman house with Timmy Tebow and the rest of them,

just having fun. Could be. There's a lot of guys in there. Caleb's in there. OJ Sanders. RG3's in there. Bryce Young's in there. OJ Simpson.

I didn't see OJ. Did Juice make an appearance? I think he's in the bushes, right? Yeah, he's in one of them. They caught us. Come on out. Haven't seen him. We got a nice quote from Chase Young,

one of the newest members of the San Francisco 49ers. He was traded from the Commanders on trade day. This is a big move because he was projected to be a beast. Only got to play a little bit due to injuries, but any time we saw him on the field, we thought to ourselves, wow, that guy could be the next guy. The San Francisco 49ers defense is obviously loaded. They trade for Chase.

Here's Chase's thoughts on being in the building. Just the players spirit in the locker room. The spirit of the coaches. Can we get a wind sock? A pop filter? It's just different. It's like that

same thing at Ohio State where it's like you're expected to win and it's just like that vibe of we're going to win. You know what I'm saying? So it definitely reminds me of not Ohio State, but obviously it's NFL. These are grown men. So I'm just excited to, you know,

be blessed with the opportunity to be this franchise. Yeah, it's, you know, a lot of people are saying, this is what he said about the commanders. I don't think he said anything about the commanders commanders and just because you compliment one place doesn't mean you're putting down another but i do appreciate the fact that he can acknowledge like hey this group here not happy about what's going on right now this group here expects to win and also the front office has gone all in has to feel good to be on the side of the buyers as opposed to the sellers and maybe chase young is able to rewrite an entire legacy in

the nfl for himself yeah i mean he's been a monster at times throughout his nfl career we know he's been hampered by injuries no question but yeah that's the thing like there's the standard he showed up and you could kind of feel what the standard is when you go to great programs or like a great franchise like this that's been been winning for the last you know for the recent history you know like everybody I think knows, if you're lucky enough to have been on a team that you, every time you go out, you expect to win. Like that's just what it is.

Like that's the standard. We were talking yesterday about the Miami Dolphins and old Goopy. He's happy where the Dolphins are out now. He's like, well, we weren't that good. We haven't been that good in the past. And we said, no, the standard, there's a new standard in Miami. They expect to win and they expect to win every single game. And I think that's where the Niners are.

And, yeah, you're never happy if you're not winning. But you want to consistently find a way to be dominant, and I think the Niners are trying to be there. Chase Young going to help that defense? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, he's the number two overall pick for a reason. Like you said, injuries have really been the only thing holding him back. And it's not like offenses are going to be able to come in and key on,

hey, we got to stop Chase Young. He's going to be the game wrecker for this defense. It's probably, you know, two, three, four, maybe other guys that you're going to be more worried about coming into the game. So he can definitely be that other guy that just wrecked shop. Yeah, and that's a little freeing, too. Oh, yeah. To know you're coming to an already established,

as opposed to being one of the pillars of establishing a defense. Now you're coming to a defense that's already established and getting dropped in to be an additive. That is a freeing feeling, I would assume, for Chase. They wanted to. They wanted him too. It's got to feel good to, hey, these guys, they came and they made a move to bring me onto this team, so I

want to try to exceed any expectations they have for me. Yeah, you're 100% right. I'm still playing for that second contract. Because remember, being the second overall pick, injuries slow you down. You didn't pick up the fifth-year option as a top first-round pick. So now you're on this great defense where, hey, I don't have to play 100% of snaps. Offenses aren't keying on me. Trust me, what is Bosa getting paid now?

Damn near $30 million a year, 30 plus. He's definitely going to be motivated for a lot of different reasons. I think he's going to wake up as the season goes. Go ahead, Connor. If he plays well, I'm sure Lynch and the boys are going to figure out a way to keep him around. Because he got traded during the Niners bye week, I saw, I think it was

a backup tight end or a player on the team. They forgot that they traded for Chase Young. He came into the building, saw Chase Young, was like, what the hell is he doing here? And then remembered that they got him. That's a kid out of Ohio State. What's Chase Young doing? What the hell is he doing?

Hey, how you doing? My name is Jack, Chase Young. I'm on the team now. Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh. Forgot about that. I like that they're adding, though.

You know, hit a little bit of a – when's Trent Williams coming back? When's Debo coming back? I think those are our big questions. Debo's back. Debo's back. Great news. Trent Williams, is he back? Not sure about him, but I heard Debo say he's coming back.

Okay, so if Debo's back and Trent's back, we assume that offense is going to be back. Coming out of the bye week, they got it all figured out. Add in Chase Young, good for them. Speaking about having it all figured out, we had Max Crosby on yesterday. He was awesome. You should download his podcast called The Rush. Devontae Adams last night had a nice interaction with a ref.

Listen to him chit-chat about the future of the Raiders. All signs seem to be going up for Raider Nation. Hey, the ref can tell already. Good vibes. I was 312 right on a 50. I'm having a good time. Now, obviously, I'm officiating. You see me a little different, but I'm all Raidered out whenever we're at the game. I'm appreciative of your services, and Devontae says it's going to be different now. I like the vibes that are coming out of Las Vegas. They're still in the same division as Patrick Mahomes and the

Chiefs, and obviously they're under.500, but there's a lot of football left. Good for them figuring it out seemingly in the middle of a season. Yeah, they definitely seem to, I mean, they're enjoying themselves more right now. I saw the Antonio Pierce presser where he talks about having the practice squad players on the sidelines. Like, he's just doing all those little things that feel like the right thing to do to kind of make sure everybody knows, like, hey, we're all in and we're all here for you. So, show.

Practice squad guys were on the sideline with the Colts. Were they on the sideline with the Packers? Yes. That'd be weird if they weren't. So, am I watching the – Were they up in a box before? If not, like before he brought them down, or were they not even at the stadium?

Am I watching on TV? No, Josh McDaniels. They were probably outside shoveling snow or sand or whatever's going on in the desert. Yeah, you think they were getting a little extra workout in? Hey, during the game, you're going to have a three-hour workout just so you know what it's like to play. So you'll be at the facility, watch the game after the game ends.

You guys are going to go through it. It was weird that that was, like, made a big thing, like Antonio Pierce is welcoming the practice squad guys back onto the sideline. It's like, I don't know. I never heard anybody not having them out there. Yeah, never. It only makes sense to have them

on the sideline because at any moment, you can be called up and you want to know what that feels like. Obviously, you're not over there with pads on. You probably got sunflower seeds on, but if you are locked in as a pro, you should be still listening, getting mental reps, and being ready for that moment. There's nine of them? Ten of them? How many

is there? I think they raised to 13. 13 more people. You see all the people on the sideline already? You of them? How many is there? Yeah, I think they raised 13, right? 13 more people. You see all the people on the sideline already? You can't have your practice squad guys? That makes no sense to me. What is Josh McDaniel's deal? I don't know.

No soul train line? Yeah, none of that. What's New England do, though? Is he just doing what New England has done? Are there practice squad guys there? I can't remember. It may have been in the booth. It may have been in the booth. It may have been in the booth.

I think in Green Bay at times they've been up in the suite. I guess if you're hurt, you go in the suite. The suite's pretty nice. Yeah, that'd be cool too. But the way they made it sound is like not in the building. Yeah, like he grounded them. Picking up beer cans in the parking lot instead. It's like, what the hell are we talking about? I mean, there's been times where some dudes wearing full sideline apparel for the team

definitely got that from the team. I never met him. He got signed to the practice squad on Saturday. This guy's standing in front of my net like, welcome to the team. Get the hell out of the way. I'm happy you're here. Like, it's just hearing that was interesting.

But you're right. To add to the conversation here, like the Raiders seemingly much different now than they were two weeks ago. And it all seems like common sense moves like everything just feels why do you think this is how josh mcdaniel's chose to go about doing what he did and i guess when it doesn't work that's why it can get so damn loud quickly yeah i don't i i would love to know how much he stuck with what he learned from belichick and he'd been

there for so long like in what little tweaks he changed. That's what I would want to know. And also what changes did he make from his first time being a head coach to the second time? Like he even said when he got the Raiders gig, yeah, I learned a lot and made some mistakes before. I need to learn from those or whatever and move on. Like, did you really? I don't know.

Did you try to make those changes? He said, I'm going to be me this time. I'm not going to try to be Bill. And it's like, what if he just sucks? Bingo. What if he was him before? People are like, going to try to be Bill. It's like, what if he just sucks? Bingo. What if he was him before? People are like, you're trying to be Bill. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was what I was trying to do.

Let me get back into this. I'm going to be me this time. Man, you're a miserable prick, you know? No, I'm not trying to. That's Bill. No, we're talking about you. You're being you right now. Speaking of Bill, those conversations about him coaching other teams, I mean, it's getting. There's no way. No way. He's coaching the Patriots, I think.

No way he goes anywhere else, right? Massive chance. I never say never, but I don't think it would happen. Massive chance. Really? Why? You think Kraft fires him, AJ? Any chance of that?

No. I don't think Kraft would fire him. Any Patriot place, a casino? He's getting the record somewhere. This show's ending. Aaron Rodgers will join us in about 10 minutes or so on YouTube and ESPN+. We'll be back tomorrow with a massive Wednesday.

You're the greatest humans on earth. Enjoy SportsCenter in seven. Cheers. That was a good tease, too. I did a SportsCenter tease. Shout out. Shout out to SportsCenter. I love those guys and girls. They don't love us. SportsCenter does not know? I love those guys and girls. They don't love us.

No, they don't. SportsCenter does not love us. No, that's fine. No, they're right. No, no. We're eating up time the day could be on. It's true. You know what I mean?

We're eating up time the day could be on. Is noon to two, did that used to always be SportsCenter? I do believe noon to one was a SportsCenter, and then I don't know what was else on. Maybe the max. Two was max. Kicking it with Max. We're maxing out. Mixing it up with Max in the afternoon.

The Max mix. There it is. I didn't mind Max Kellerman. Seemed like he was always mad. He's like a boxing aficionado. He's a big boxing guy. He is. I wonder his thoughts on we didn't talk about this but I guess the Francis Ngannou, Tyson Fury one did not do

good. Massive numbers. Didn't do good numbers? Really? What time was it on? What's that? What time was it on? 2 p.m.

Yeah, that's the problem. 5 p.m. on a Saturday? What network was it? DAZN. DAZN? DAZN pay-per-view, right? I watched. I paid for it.

I know that. I watched that whole thing. I think it was DAZN pay-per-view. I watched that whole thing. Mm-hmm. You did. It was really nice. It was before your Halloween party.

I had just gotten home from Utah. Long flight. Only had like an hour pretty much before the Halloween party. Sam was picking up our Halloween costumes at that exact time. So I'm like, all right, perfect timing. All the football games are blowouts, I think. It was like, I'm going to watch this fight. And the whole time I was just thinking Tyson Fury was going to come back

and win it. Tyson Fury was going to come back and win it. That didn't happen at all. And I looked on the internet. Everybody was talking about it. I assumed it was going to be huge. I guess that's just not how it works. I don't know.

I think just for casual fans, like anytime it's not Saturday night where you can't get with a group, like anytime it's in the middle of the day like that. I just don't think as many people either know what's going on or it's just hard to take that block of time out of like your Saturday afternoon. Yeah. Especially when I think the weather was decent too. It's a good cause.

It's like, it's one of those last good weekends. Halloween party weekend. Yeah. I don't think a lot of people knew about it. If you didn't like pay attention, I don't, I didn't see it popping up all over the place.

We were supposed to interview Tyson on Friday beforehand, and it fell into a time in which he was not going to be able to come on the program. He had something very important to do, I believe. That was one of the wildest emails. What does that mean? It was one of the most hilarious emails of all time. It was like, yeah, not going to happen because, insert name, a thing that had to happen.

And it was like, well, you guys are being very transparent, and we appreciate that. But he couldn't make it on. And I thought to myself, like, how much did they, how much marketing did they do? I don't remember. How much movement? Yeah, not a lot of promotion, it felt like.

But it was for the baddest on earth. I don't know. Thank you for fighting each other. Keep fighting. We appreciate you guys. It's hard to make some noise. Isn't it hard for people to get people's attention? I think there's just so much

going on and so much out there. How do you separate? Especially in the middle of football season. You know what I mean? In the middle of football season with a lot of eyes on it. Now I know that's a global event. Tyson's from England and Nganu's from Nigeria. I understand it's a global event on a global scale,

but I think our media potentially runs a lot of it. And right now, football is so great. How about tonight? College football playoff rankings. Second official one coming out 7 p.m. Eastern. Let's go. ESPN. Let's call Herbie.

Let's call Herbie real quick. Three matching games tonight? What's he doing? Three? He's with Ben. He is probably taking Ben for a walk. What a go Herbie real quick. Three matching games tonight? What's he doing? Three? He's with Ben. He is probably taking Ben for a walk. What a dog. Like, actually. Both of them. Yes. We already know what the top

six are going to be. Hey, we're live. We're live. We're live. What do you think? He's going to say some slurs? Hey, we're live. We're live. Look, I'm on a Zoom. I just didn't want him to say something about Pete. Oh, hell. Al Michaels. What's going on? Kaylee Hardtongue, how's it going?

What are we doing? Big game Thursday, Herbie. I got you on mute. I know better. You son of a bitch. I wanted to say hello to the team. You just yawned right in his face today. He was texting me.

He thought I yawned in Bob Carpenter's face. Oh, come on. I didn't. I was talking. I was going to talk. I was about to, ah. Ah. I'm going to have Al say hi. Hey, Al.

Al Michaels. Pat's on here. Al, no. Tell him we're live, Harry. He's live on his show if you want to custom it. It's live, Al. Yeah, he's live on his show if you want to custom it or anything. It's live, Al.

That's awesome. Alright, thank you, Al. Love you, Al. Alright, appreciate you, Al. Real quick, Herbie. No, we're not. I appreciate you, Al. Real quick, Herbie. Hold on. I got you coming on right now. Do you want a commercial? No, we're not.

We're on the internet, Al. We're on the internet, Al. Al, we are live. You need to get off your chest, Al. No, do not. Herbie, you are being a bad teammate right now. He needs to know he's live. He's live right now. This team's having fun. It's good to hear that the Amazon. That's right. He's live right now. This team's having fun.

You know, it's good to hear that the Amazon. That's right. Hey, real quick. Can I ask you a question? Hey, Derek Brown's on the horn, dude. I got to go. Dude, tonight, 7 o'clock. Big deal, right?

Playoffs? Are we going to be excited or what? Yes, yes. 7 o'clock. Yeah. All right. All right. See you.

Good question. Good question. Derek Brown's on the horn. Al must be so fucking pissed they have Panthers-Bears this week. They must be miserable. D-Bot said yesterday, oh, Al's going to be pumped about that one. Dude, it is. I mean, we talk about the Boston-Connor graphics.

It started just yesterday with the slate of primetime games, and Chargers-Jets was on there because we kind of forecasted what that was going to potentially become, which was torturous to watch at points. It was tough. That was tough football to watch. I stayed awake through it all, which, shout out to me, pretty pumped up about that.

But, like, watching that was tough. And then you start going ahead, it's like, boy, Panthers-Bears on Thursday night. We're staring down Broncos-Colts from last year on Thursday night football. It has to be great though. Our expectations are knocked down that it's going to exceed our expectations. Well, that's not true because last night's game

we had it on this particular graphic. That face right there from Tim doesn't mean we're expecting it was going to be good. No. What did he love? He just loved the zip line. Shut up, Mike. Pulling on the rope too hard. See, the Colts are a part of this. Colts Patriots Sunday morning.

Jeez. Only game on. Jets Raiders Sunday night football. More Zach Wilson football. And then Broncos Bills. And we just assume and hope that the Bills are going to be the Bills. But we don't know. They lost to the Patriots.

So we're in the middle of a little five-game stretch where we're certainly going to have to chit-chat about. Yeah. Okay? But let's remember, we're lucky to watch these games. Bingo. Yeah. Football's not year-round, people.

Boom. We only got so many games left. Exactly. So when these things are on, no matter how terrible they are or how inept it appears the offense coordinators or the quarterbacks or anything is potential. We got to remember we get to watch it. And it is still happening. So enough with your little graphic

about how shitty these games are. I'm already working on the next one. And the next one is how good the primetime games are going to be after this week. They are fantastic. Okay, let's dive into the Boston Corner graphic of the day. Oh yeah, sweet. Yeah, let's dive into the Boston Corner graphic of the day. Oh yeah, sweet. Yeah, let's dive into the Boston Corner graphic of

the day. Dirty, our graphic designer, had a baby a few days ago. Congratulations. So all hands on deck whenever it came to designing graphics, and Connor has really jumped at the opportunity. He's making one a day. You know it's his because he has a certain style whenever he is

making a graphic. The current 2023 NFL playoff picture. Any NFC number one seed? Eagles. Congratulations. The brand new Lions. They're number two. San Francisco 49ers, even though they're on a little bit of a schneid.

Got a little bit of a schneid. They're still number three. Saints. Congratulations. Down in the NFC South leading the way. Then you got the Vikings, Cowboys, Seahawks. And then the Commies and Falcons have an opportunity to slip in the back door here as a wild card. AFC.

AFC. Number one seed. The Kansas City Chiefs. There are people asking them if they're dead. Yeah. Crazy. Are they broken? They're still number one seed.

Then the Ravens, who D-Butt's been on for three weeks. Jaguars. Phenomenal. Loved listening to Trevor Lawrence last night. The Dolphins still have all the talent in the world. Can they beat somebody that's on this graphic, though? That's the question. That's right. So they're top of the AFC East? Yeah. Nice. Right on. But, Gumpy, the question is, are they ever going to

be able to beat anybody on this graphic right here? They would beat the Steelers for sure. Okay. be able to beat anybody on this graphic right here. They would beat the Steelers for sure. Then you got the Steelers, the Bengals, and the Browns all in there. Texans, Chargers, and Jets still tied at 4-4 in the hunt. Connor,

great graphic, pal. Hell yeah. One of those teams also on the hunt, the Bills. Not in the playoffs right now. That is absurd. Playoffs? Playoffs? Kidding me? He's trying to win a game. That's all. Playoffs? Playoffs. Are you kidding me? He's trying to win a game. That's all? They've got a boring Monday night football match that could propel them right back into the conversation of everything.

Especially of Josh Balls. I'm proud of you, buddy. I'm really loving it. I actually tried another graphic and we figured out, hey, kind of stick to what we've done these past couple days. Don't try and do the other ones. Connor's trying to become an actual graphic designer downloading apps that are impossible to use. And it's like, Con, man, come on, bud. You're doing this for a week and a half. I know a lot here.

You're going to be done with this. But his graphics are great. They got copied yesterday. Yeah. His graphic got stolen yesterday by the 33rd team. 33rd team was like, you know what? Not a bad graphic. Yeah, let me get that.

Rambo? We'll change Tim Robinson out. We'll sub in another. Idiots. Something else. Rambo? We'll change Tim Robinson out. We'll sub in another. Idiots. That one got a lot more action than ours. Yeah, it's bullshit. That's a 33rd team difference, I guess.

I mean, Ari Mirov, he's got his finger on the pulse. Well, congrats to 33rd team having the same mind. I assume they didn't steal ours. They probably had similar ideas. But we want to let them know we're thankful that our minds are synced with theirs. Yeah, and it's something that needs to be talked about because if we don't want to watch these primetime games, if we don't talk about that, then how's the NFL ever going to change them? And also,

use the fucking flex. Please. We got it. Just use it. You created it for a reason. Can they do it every week or do they only have so many flexes? Well, that's a whole other thing. Let them use it all the time. Let them use it all the time everywhere. Week three on. Congratulations.

You just got flexed into primetime. You're supposed to play at one o'clock on Sunday. Oh, which day? Monday. Yeah. Sweet. Love it. Figure it out. Congratulations. You just got flexed into primetime. When? Thursday. Oh, sweet. We got a mini-bye this week? Yeah. Andrew on primetime. You just got flexed into Sunday night

football. All right. Here we go. A little extraetime. Figured you just got flexed into Sunday Night Football. Alright, here we go. A little extra time. I think teams, if that becomes the new norm, will be okay with it, AJ? I think. Yes. I mean, no one's going to be... I mean, if you get flexed out of the primetime game, you'd be a little bit upset, but you would understand, too. You would get why they bumped you out. It's like

getting a promotion when you get bumped into those primetimes. Different day, too. That would be logistical. They got to do, like like two weeks ahead of time yeah which they do and but if it becomes the new norm yeah it's just a new norm but going to the sunday night going from like a 1 p.m sunday to the sunday night game that's that's a great change great how about if we went to monday yeah that'd be great yeah it's a little more a little different but yeah guys some guys are have some guys don't love that as much yeah because, because the back end, you're obviously getting screwed. But I'm just saying, if it becomes the new norm, which a lot of shit has,

just become the new, oh, we're playing in Germany, we're playing in London, you're not taking a bye. It's like, if that just becomes the new norm for the league, I don't think anybody would be complaining. You're moved to 4 o'clock on Sunday. How come? All the other 4 o'clock games suck. Oh, okay.

Sounds good. Thank God. There's a lot of those potential opportunities in the future and I assume there's a logistical nightmare that we're leaving out of this whole thing, but hopefully that'll take place. Let's get to a break. In five minutes, Aaron Rodgers will join us. How does he feel

after hocking a pigskin 58 yards last night? Yeah. Looked good. Did you see that, AJ? Looked pretty good. Pretty good with those shoes. He was wearing those De Niro or Pacino shoes from the movie. His new norm is wearing absurd shoes. Who cares if it gets him back on the football field sooner than anybody in the history?

Joining us now is a man who was in New York last night. Cannot wait to hear his thoughts on the game that was and where he is whenever it comes to his Achilles rehabilitation. Ladies and gentlemen, four-time NFL MVP, Aaron Rodgers. Super cool. It's not Halloween. You're still dressed as a cool guy. I like that.

Travel outfit. Oh, nice. Don't have to do the hair. Put the hat on. Did we snooze a little bit? What was it like during travel? I'm reading right now. I've got to do the hair, put the hat on. Did we snooze a little bit? What was it like during travel? No, I'm reading right now. I got to read some books.

We got the book club reveal coming up here pretty soon. Okay, we appreciate you prepping for that. Second largest book club in the world, I do believe, is what the stats say. But stats are on everybody's side. Can't wait to dive back into that. Let's talk about last night a little bit. What was it like to be back with the team? We got to see you around warm-ups. You were spinning. Hey, Aaron, this is like a 58-yard

ball here. And I know whenever it's close up and this is you warming up, the shoes look ridiculous. You're back in the team gear. This video, though, hit the internet. You do a little three-step drop, pivot. You have to turn a lot of force on that front foot. That's like a 58-yard ball. Are we back, Eric? Are we back right now, or what are we thinking? No, we're not back. That's just my stress reliever. That's just me feeling a little bit normal,

feeling like I'm back a member of the team almost. But no, that's just me relieving some stress and having some fun pregame. 58 yards, though, of stress is a lot. Did you have to do a lot of things there? Hey, we know, as humans that think, well, it's not just easy to throw a ball 58 yards. To do that, you have to do a lot. There's a lot.

There's a lot that has to happen, bro. There's a lot. And you're in those ridiculous shoes, obviously, for the good of the Achilles. We're stressing, not stretching. But there's a lot that has to happen, right? We took steps here. It feels like we're getting to a good spot. I'm feeling good in my rehab.

I've been grinding, but was able to get into Jersey on Monday morning and see the guys for the game and throw a couple balls around with my buddy KP, one of our equipment staff. Yeah, it felt good. It just felt kind of normal to be out there. Listen, when I'm 70, I think I'll still be able to throw the ball pretty

good. That's never going to be a problem. It's just how quickly can I get this rehab where I need it to be. And, you know, obviously you've got to play some better football on offense than we did last night. But I'm excited where I'm at. Good to see the guys.

Good to see the crowd. Obviously a disappointing game. But we've got another one coming up Sunday in Vegas, a chance to bounce back. Go ahead, AJ. What about after the game? I believe it was Derwin James. He said, give me a couple weeks before I'm back out there. I know you're just kind of having fun with the guys,

but obviously you know that's going to get dissected a little bit. A couple weeks, does that mean two? Does that mean six, ten, three months? What does it mean? We're back. Yeah. I've known Derwin for a while. We've got the same agency.

Really have a lot of respect for him and his game. He came over and dabbed me up during the game. Good to see him after the game. I didn't realize that was going to get caught there. I mean, obviously, that was said with a little tongue-in-cheek there. It'd be nice to be able to be back in a couple weeks. That's probably not anywhere near a realistic timeline but uh a couple is you know could be uh could be a few could be a lot it was uh it's more of a uh you know a phrase that didn't have a

specific uh timetable but uh yeah i said it smiling joking joking. He was talking about how he's excited for me to get back on the field at some point. I joked it would be a few weeks. Obviously, it's going to be more than a couple weeks. A couple is two. A few is three. A Rushmore is four. I'm aware of this. I'm just saying.

It's going to be a few fortnights. It'll be a few fortnights. It'll be a few fortnights. A few fortnights. So a few would be three times two. Two weeks, right? Two weeks of fortnight.

A baker's dozen. Is there anything we're adding in there? 13 days. Holy hell. Congrats. Ryan, December. Mid-December, which would be really early. Really early. But let's talk about, which would be really early, really early.

But let's talk about, you know, the comeback process of it. Obviously, where the Jets stand in it all would be a big piece of whether or not you would come back early from an Achilles injury in play. Oh, no. Is he getting close to Malibu where it's, well, FaceTime only, but Wi-Fi. He's getting our Wi-Fi in the car. I was just going to freeze alongside of him so we'd be a good team there. I'm still here.

I see you guys. Okay, good. Well, you look amazing. Let's talk, though, about the Jets' standings in record for you to come back. You're not thinking about that at this exact moment? Is that something you think about while you watch the team play last night and it's very clearly going to be an L as the clock starts running down?

Do you start thinking about what their record is, how the team looks to make a comeback this late into the season as a man who's defying science with the Achilles return? I have a lot of faith in our guys and I feel like we're going to be in the mix for sure.

That is a very small part of uh of the thought process because it's really just the day-to-day trying to get right so uh trying to keep strengthening the calf trying to uh you know as we move into this you know more flexibility down there. But it's going to be a process. It's going to be, you know, it's going to be a process of small gains every single day. And then hopefully there's a chance to be, to have that conversation. Obviously, you know, we got to be in the mix. There's no doubt about it.

But more than that, I got to be able to be healthy, to be able to move, to be able to protect myself, to be able to have strength in all the throwing positions. Yeah, I can do a little simulated gun drop, left, right, left, right. I even did a little crossover last night. Oh, karaoke. I'm feeling a lot more strength in the Achilles, but we're a long way off from being able to be under center and get out to an outside zone and get out to a keep fake.

It's going to be a process, but I like where I'm at. I mean, definitely, obviously, ahead of schedule and obviously thankful for not just Doc Eletrosh, but Heather and Dave at the Jets, and everybody's been helping with my rehab, and all the people taking care of me. It's been a tough situation. It's been a grind, but definitely thankful to be

eight weeks tomorrow since surgery and to be mobile, to be walking normal, to be able to move a little bit on the field, and to just feel a little bit more normal every day. It just kind of puts my mind a little more at ease after a tough two-month stretch. All of this in 55 days is obviously credit to your hard work and that incredible team, so I appreciate you giving them a shout out.

You talk about getting back to New Jersey and New York, how you get back into your flow. When you have that headset on and you're in the game, how much are you paying attention? How much are you deciding what you would do in the moment? Are you watching the jumbotron and be like, oh, we should have went here. I would have went here. Or what do you kind of, how do you kind of feel during something like last night,

whenever you're in the know, and then what's happening on the field is nothing like we've ever seen you do in this particular situation? Well, I think just like at home, there's a bunch of expert QBs. On the sidelines, there's a bunch of sideline quarterbacks as well who would want to think they should be doing this and we should be doing that.

It's a lot different when you're out there in the fire and the bullets are flying and you've got to make quick decisions in the moment. For me, on the headset, it's about kind of being the, you know, voice of calm at times, you know, suggestions here and there. And then just, you know, little side conversations with tight ends and running backs and Zach and the coaching staff, you know, in between possessions and looking at the pictures and seeing if I see anything, but for the most part, I'm just a voice of reason at times and throwing some ideas in there

as well, but it sucks to not be out there for sure. It sucks when we have a poor performance on offense like that. I just got to know what we're capable of. I know how we've been practicing. I know the kind of talent that we have, and it's just not coming together consistently, and that's why we're struggling. I mean, 191 yards of offense, and we lose by, you know, three scores is a pretty wild thing to happen. So defense obviously feeling really good. Offense is going through our struggles.

But it just comes down to situational football. I mean, you look at, you know, we've been bad on third down and bad in the red zone. So if you're bad on third down, you're not going to keep drives going. Bad in the red zone, you only get field goals. You're not going to put up points. So, you know, it's the same shit. Comes down to execution and the little things

and everybody doing their job. We've hurt ourselves in three snap penalties for sure. Hurt ourselves in negative yards plays, put ourselves in tough situations. But it comes down to it, you know, we get to execute. We get to execute on the money down on third down. We got to get in the red zone. More often than when we do, we got to get touchdowns. You know, we had some chances in the game for sure to make that a different game.

I thought the possession come out of the first half was a really nice possession right down the field. Had some chances, had a couple of negative yards plays and sacks and forced into a long field goal. If we get seven there, it's a different ballgame. It's a one-score game. Our defense really didn't give up any zero-long touchdown drives. They scored, obviously, on a punt return. They scored one yard out on a fumble recovery. They scored on a drive, I think, that started at the plus 49.

Other than that, they had two field goals. So we have a lot of respect for Herbert, but our defense, again, made a really good quarterback look a little more average. They got some playmakers. I feel like we did a good job against Eckler in the run. I feel like we did a pretty good job against Keenan. He obviously made an incredible catch on the sidelines to keep a drive going. But for the most part, we bottled them up. We forced a couple fumbles that didn't bounce our way.

We sacked them a bunch of times. But offensively, we're just not doing our part, and we got to if we're going to win these games. So we've got to bounce back this week. So you see that defense doing everything that you just kind of laid out there and how talented they are. I think the last time you had a top five defense or top ten defense, you won a Super Bowl or something like that.

And obviously that was one of the main reasons on why you wanted to go to the Jets. Is it nights like last night where you're just so eager to get back? Like what is the as the game's going, are you wishing that you could utilize those massive shoes you're wearing and just put on a uniform and get back in there?

Is there, what is the urge to get back on the field whenever you're watching a game like last night, especially with how your defense is doing? Well, it's tough, Pat, because I'm not healthy. You know, I'm just not ready. So as much as you watch a game like last night and last week when our defense was so dominant and they've been that way most of the season you know other than maybe the dallas game i feel like we've been really really good uh on defense and forcing turnovers and sacking the hell out of the quarterback and um you know getting our hands on the football um every single week uh it gives you a lot of

confidence on offense because you just kind of expect them to three and out just about every time and that's in the, that's just not realistic. You know, there's so many great players in the league on both sides of the ball, but our defense consistently shows up, consistently makes plays, and gets after the quarterback and gets after the guys up front. We're not giving up, you know, a ton of explosive plays. We're getting our hands on the football. So, yeah, it's frustrating, hands on the football um so yeah it's

it's frustrating but i'm not healthy so it's hard to even take my mind there at this point um there's been times in the past when i had bad injuries where i was able to play in a tiny circle you know in the in the pistol and then the shotgun it limits obviously what we can do um but i've been able to operate in those in those situations if this were just a real bad calf strain i'd definitely be out there you know it wouldn't be a question i did it in the 14 season for multiple weeks um you know over that stretch but uh you know we're in the eight to 12 week window where the tendon is really well, and it's also a little bit of a danger zone where we've got to be really careful. Now, obviously, that 8- to 12-weeks is relative compared to a normal healing process

compared to the way that we've attacked it, but we're still a little bit ways off of, you know, I've got to hit markers and I've got to get in the practice field, and they've got to open up a window for me to come back from IR. So there's a lot that has to happen. Not saying they can't get accelerated, but there's still a lot of things I got to do before we can even talk about getting on the field. Got it.

Go ahead, AJ. So each time that you go out here and you throw pregame, I guess, I know you're still injured so you can't take yourself there, but do you get a little bit closer? Like last night I would imagine you're out there and your Achilles feels pretty good. You know you can't play right now, but I feel like at some point, I know when you're coming off of injuries, you're like,

at some point you're thinking, oh, this sucks, this hurts so bad. Obviously, I'm a long ways out, but then the more you go, I feel like it can give you a confidence boost and you can feel pretty good when you're like, you know what, I can actually, I'm going to get back on the field, I'm going to get back on the field, and it's not going to be a crazy amount of time before I'm out here. Like, are you slowly going through that process?

Yeah, for sure. I mean, I feel like I'm kind of checking myself every time I'm out there. Like, what can I actually do? How much can I put on the left foot? Can I do a cross? Like last night, you know, I did a little crossover, which I hadn't really done before. I just kind of done the left, right, left, right, left.

I did a little. What? That was easy. You were about to get good. You did a little left, right, little crossover. I can't remember what you were talking about. Hey, that sky one is the one we need, the sky view. The 58-yarder.

The 58-yard ball. Hey, you're back. You're back, baby. Yeah, you're back. Hey, listen. You guys still there? They're getting getting throttled there you're talking about stuff that's not supposed to happen 60 yard ball is 55 days into a damn recovery from the killies am i still there you sound great yeah sorry about this voice um hey listen like i said, like I said, I'm kind of testing myself.

Like, what am I able to do? How much weight am I able to put on my leg? How much kind of pop off my back foot can I get? But as much as I'm doing that, honestly, it's a stress reliever for me. It's like... All right. It's getting the feeling of feeling seven. All right. It's getting throttled.

It's getting throttled. People are interested in it, but it's for me and my own mentals. I'm thankful for the boys who are out there playing a little catch with me. Every week we're feeling a little bit bit better but we're still a ways off I know you're out there I believe in lovely Los Angeles please welcome Carson Wentz to the city he just signed to the Los Angeles Rams

congrats to Carson Wentz signing to the Rams another opportunity out there good for my boy Shefty with the scoop there. Yeah, a little inside scoop there from Adam Schefter. He said he doesn't have your number anymore

because you told him to lose it. So he did live by what you told him, if it means anything. I bet he still got it. No, he deleted it from his house. Yeah, he said he was told to lose it. He deleted it, I heard Alright, ladies and gentlemen

I bet he's still got it, I won't respond I probably won't respond, but I bet he's still got it He was doing some ball washing yesterday It was incredible Alright, enjoy the hell out of your day We appreciate you, man Hey, thanks guys, sorry about the shitty service But, hey

Life happens Much respect, dude, happy Tuesday, everybody Book Sorry about the shitty service, but hey. Life happens. Much respect, dude. Happy Tuesday, everybody. And book club's coming back soon, man. I got two or three absolute fucking gems in the lineup. Let's go. We can't wait. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers.

Yeah, Aaron. I wonder where he was rolling around. You said he was out there. Up in the hills. A speaker in the headrest? That was the first thing i saw as a sweet whip nice what do you think it is no clue like an escalator what is it a nice big suv it's four door speaker right there in the headset i was like i don't know if i've seen that yeah that'll get you

right especially if you listen to something with a little boom boom oh yeah for sure man we gotta go to the sphere in vegas man i need to go to a show out there yeah i don't know why i brought that i just thought because each seat has it's like speakers and each that place just looks Man, we got to go to the Sphere in Vegas, man. I need to go to a show out there. Yeah. I don't know why I brought that. I just thought because each seat has its speakers. That place just looks amazing. I need to go. How about Dana White as soon as you say? For those that haven't, I'm obsessed with this place.

It does seem to be incredible. The amount of money that was spent on it is absurd. Dolan, too. The Knicks owner, Dolan did it. Yeah, he loves it it he's just putting on these events and then the what is it it's 4k led everything yeah everything it's like it's like you're in you're wearing virtual reality it's like you're in a virtual reality situation how the screen is inside an eyeball there yeah the way what they do inside of it like there's one shot

they showed where like they the camera was up on the roof and it looked as if it was going on forever. Then they showed it again. It was like the roof was collapsing in on the place the way they can do everything with the screens. I wonder if it's like the Avatar ride down at Disney World where while you're sitting there, you get a little mist on you. Probably.

A little bit of fan. Feel the air of whatever's going on. I'd assume the experience is absurd. Let's go into that Carson Wentz news a little bit because Mike Garofalo is reporting that Wentz has been working with John Gruden, known emailer, this offseason. Now joins Gruden's disciple

Sean McVay with the Los Angeles Rams as Aaron Wilson first reported. I think it is a big piece of information. I like the fact that John Gruden was working with Carson and was like, tell you what, man, this guy can really still spin. He's a big man.

And then Sean McVay's in a situation that he's in. Obviously, they draft Stetson Bennett to be the backup quarterback. Thought there was going to be a lot of hope with Stetson Bennett being the backup quarterback. He has been away from the team for some time. Ripon comes in and plays. Rippon Ripon comes in and plays against the Packers.

He was not great at all. So the Rams now are in a situation where they're trying to find something. If Carson Wentz can play football in a manner in which he's not trying to break his legs every single play, there's a chance a good football is still left inside of Carson Wentz and Sean McVay will be able to find it. Yeah, look what happened to Baker. I mean, Baker is now the guy in Tampa, it feels like, and will be for a little bit. But to your point about, you know, Carson Wentz not breaking both his ankles,

he's on Aaron Donald's team now. So Aaron Donald can't be breaking both his ankles. We had Miles Garrett on the show earlier. There's a lot of monsters out there, especially around his Halloween season. But Carson Wentz, when he's playing great football, AJ, this has always been the case. Philly, playing great football. Wow, that's awesome. This guy's one of the best

in the league. And then he'll make like six decisions a game where you're like, what are we doing? Then he came to the Indianapolis Colts. We picked up his whole contract. We picked up his whole contract. I was pumped up about it. Alright, here we go. Because you watch a couple highlights of Carson Wentz, you're like, yes, this guy's a guy.

And then he plays a couple games, this guy's a guy. And then all of a sudden, he's shot-putting lefty in his end zone against a division opponent in the fourth quarter. And it's going pick six for the shortest pick six in the history of the NFL. And then he gets back on the field after doing that, shot-putting a ball to the other team, shortest pick, fourth quarter against division rival. Okay, that's happened.

Next time he gets on the field, he's running around with the ball. Then he puts the ball on ground like this to balance himself. Stands up, throws it in triple coverage. Michael Pittman Jr. makes the catch. It's like Carson Wentz is awesome.

That is the Carson Wentz experience that I think everybody's had. The commander's obviously not as many great times over there as the other places. But when he's playing, great. Boy, it's exhilarating. It is so much fun. But then there's moments that just pop up out of nowhere where it's like, why are you doing it?

Are you an adult? Do you know football? Do you understand what's going on here? Why are you doing that? And then you talk to his coaches and you hear them talk. It's like, we let Carson be Carson. It's like, well, can we stop? Can we stop?

And I don't know how his parents have survived. I don't know how Cardiac Carson Wentz's parents have survived. Because I rode one season with Carson Wentz. And it was, ooh, ooh, ooh. His parents got to be the most chill humans of all time. Because watching their son play football, the way that he plays football, has to be the most chill humans of all time because watching their son play football, the way that he plays football has to be tasking. Every single one, he could either die or throw a touchdown.

That's the type of player that Sean McVay is getting. Hopefully, he'll be able to reign them in for only the positive, none of the negative. Couldn't agree with you more on that, but I think the big negative here is who was supposed to be a true game-time decision on Sunday. This is bad news for Matthew Stafford, right? Well, they're going to need a backup anyways time decision on Sunday. This is bad news for Matthew Stafford, right? Like this is. Well, they're going to need a backup anyways, right?

Yeah. After. After ripping. What? No, I just assume this is bad. Bad news. I don't think so. Oh, so you think Matt's playing this weekend?

Stafford played with a broken freaking neck. He's not. He's playing soon enough. Tried to play against the Packers. Yeah. Places don't normally sign a quarterback. We listen to podcasts. We listen to podcasts. What's a podcast? He does. Kicking it with Kel? Yeah. Oh, don't normally sign a quarterback. We listen to podcasts. We listen to podcasts.

What's a podcast? He does. Kicking it with Kel? Yeah. Oh, there's another one with Coop. Yeah, he doesn't have two podcasts. His wife has. Nine and nine.

Oh, yeah. Boom. You guys. What? He's got one podcast. Okay, his wife has the other podcast. He doesn't have two podcasts. You're the one saying he has two podcasts.

Why? I didn't. Let's rewind that. Never said that. Yeah, you did. You kind of did. You did. But have they said anything on the podcast how he feels?

Because you're thinking this necessarily means Carson Wentz is starting this week for the Los Angeles Rams? Oh, starting? Yeah, it's a better chance of him starting than Matt, I think, at this point. You know, obviously, thumbs, that's a big issue when you're throwing him. But, I mean, Carson, look. You look around the league. It ain't a lot of great you're throwing him. But, I mean, Carson, look, you look around the league, it ain't a lot of great quarterback play going on. A lot of backups.

He's been out for a while. Obviously, talented guy. You guys saw him in person. He's a big sumbitch. So he's got an arm. He's got all the skill set. It's just obviously between the ears. Maybe he's got a different perspective.

John Gruden, a lot has been said about him. Obviously, he is a good football coach, a good guy to be working with if you are a quarterback. And then you're going to Sean McVay. Connor mentioned it. We saw what happened with Baker Mayfield on the short week. And then where Baker Mayfield is now. Another high draft pick.

Carson Wentz, he has the tools. We just haven't seen him put it together. Rams have a bye this weekend. That's big news for both Stafford and for Carson Wentz. That's good news. Well, I also think, I mean, like, match made in heaven. You think Carson Wentz, where should this guy be in L.A.?

Bright lights, big city. You know, that really kind of meshes with his personality perfectly. That's the other thing is deer season, mallard season. We are right smack dab in the middle of it right now. Guess what? Not a whole lot of hunting out in LA. He can go big game hunting, maybe kill a couple of those Pumas or mountain lions

that we've seen. He will. There's mountain lions that are eating their animals. All those little dogs. No American lions eating any Carson Wentz's animals. No. Carson Wentz will kill them. Like Jessica Simpson's dog. I think they ate hers a while back, yeah.

Jessica Simpson lost her dog to a mountain lion? I don't know when, but yeah, I remember hearing different celebrities, you know, they put the little dogs out in the backyard at night

and... Like Gaga. Jess was with Lachey. Yeah, Nick Lachey. Yeah, Nick Lachey. At one time, yeah. Yeah, are they still together? And Romo.

What? Yeah, she dated Romo after Nick Lachey. Yeah, she did. That's not his name. Lachey. You haven't seen the Punk'd episode where they show up and the guy says he's his cousin, keeps calling him Nick Lackey.

It's damn good. Punk'd was good. Yeah, it was. Punk'd had a good run. There's always a bunch of reincarnations of it. That was the original, though. Yeah, it did really well. I guess it was coyotes.

Coyotes killed the dog. Oh, yeah, that one gets you. What year? They do that in Ohio. 2009. Yeah, but can't we just kick those things right in the fucking head? I've seen a couple of these coyotes. I think it's the way I don't see them.

If you put your dog out and you go inside or something, then they come snatching. Oh, got you. Yeah, because they're out here in Indiana, these coyotes. But they all look as if you could just... Little straggly dogs, don't they? Yeah. There's some big ones here, but yeah, I'd take a baseball bat out if they were coming after your dog. Bingo. Yeah, you'd come after

Val. You don't want to go after Chuck. No, they'd have no chance. They physically couldn't go after Chuck. Chuck's bigger than a coyote. Yeah, for sure. Kyle picks Chuck up in his mouth. That coyote is spitting Chuck out and turning around. You know those things that go like this? What's that called?

Seesaw. Coyote picks Chuck up by the mouth. That thing's going. Brow down, legs up. Breaking his nose. And Chuck is a kind of urban legend in the coyote community later on. There's this thing that looks like all the others, but it's much larger than you could imagine. You won't be able to judge on film.

You're going to have to experience it live. Biggest, fattest corgi of all time. Ever. Chuck. That son of a bitch is only growing two. Didn't even squeal when I put it in his mouth. Excuse me? You sick son of a bitch! What did you do to my goddamn

mouth? I am the coyote Talking about the urban legend Good lord You guys need to take your heads out of the gutter I'm not talking about What you said That's on you

Freaks We said we were going to do the middies I mean that's wild I can't believe you guys That would be Gump too by the way Who would be the one isolating that that would be it would be gumpy that would be doing that you know good god he'll never do that he won't isolate that no gumpy wouldn't do that what'd you say connor i said i said he didn't even squeal when he put it in his mouth no when you put it yeah you should. No, when you put it in his mouth. Yeah, you should.

Oh, yeah, I was speaking as a coyote. Excuse me. Because that's what we were doing. No, we were past doing that. You said that when they were talking about the Urban Legend, that was the next thing I said. You were six seconds away. You guys are unbelievable. Listen, if you can't keep up with the conversation, let us know.

If you can't run like those wild ponies on your chest, let us know. I was running like the wild ponies, and I can't believe you guys took what I was saying in the wrong fashion. This is despicable. I thought this was a real journalism show and we were making funny jokes about You said some wild stuff. Yeah. It was wild that the situation with the

coyote was in too because it was so wild he couldn't put Chuck in his mouth. Let's move along. The middies will be happening tomorrow. Okay. Good to know. Midweek. Yes. Middle ofdies will be happening tomorrow. Okay. Good to know. Midweek. Yes. Middle of the week, middle of the season.

Boom. Tomorrow's actual midway point of season. That's right. So today would just be premature. Amen. And we don't want to do that. We're, once again, mature. And journalists.

Yeah. So we can't give away midseason awards at the middle of the season if we're not in the actual middle of the season. Right. This is the right decision, D-Butt. Great decision. I've heard around locker rooms, they've already heard about these middies, and there's a lot of people pumped to get these middie awards.

Oh, yeah. Waiting. Baited breath. Heard the boys are wondering. You heard Miles Garrett earlier. Oh, my God. We send in trophies? Huh?

We send in trophies to the winners? Easy tone. We will send NFTs. Oh, there Easy tone. We will send NFTs. Okay, perfect. There you go. We will send NFTs. Of a trophy. Yeah, absolutely.

Stay out of that. Oh, it's going to be a picture of us going, way to go. Way to go. And then we'll put a little spin on it, which would be a Zito thing. And we put a little spin on it, and all of a sudden, this is 101. Congratulations. Pretty cool. You won a middie.

We got coach of the year, offensive rookie of the year, defensive rookie of the year, offensive player of the year, defensive player of the year, MVP. We got a lot of middies. We got midseason comeback player of the year. Maybe we had

an award. Was somebody coming off IR? Who would it be? Oh, I don't know. There is a two of them. Diggs usually has a bunch of them. There's a heavy, heavy favorite of the Bucs. It's got to be DeMar.

It is. The heavy favorite of the Bucs is DeMar. Play. For the end of the year, DeMar Hamlin, comeback player of the year. That was cool to watch him handle that whole situation on Monday, Sunday. Couldn't imagine. Sunday. Sunday night. I watch him handle that whole situation on Monday. Sunday. Couldn't imagine. Sunday. Sunday night. I love him getting that award, though.

The middies or the... No, you guys take this one. What are you talking about? Talk bad about him. I'm not going to talk bad about him. Here we go. He should definitely win Comeback Player of the Year for the year. I don't know if he wins the middie Comeback Player of the Year, though, halfway through the season. I mean, this would certainly be

the time. When I put it in his butt, what growing two didn't even squeal when I put it in his butt. I mean, that's not even what I said. That's YouTube captioning. And that's fine. That's AI. And that's completely fine. But I didn't say that. I know I didn't say

that. I don't think you remember what you said. I do remember what I said. Well, why is the AI so wrong, then? I don't think you remember what you said. I do remember what I said. Well, why is the AI so wrong then? I don't know. You're telling me you're saying AI is wrong? AI is dumb? You're telling me I said the same thing. I said the same two sentences back to back.

You've got to clarify to yourself. I suppose. I mean, I'm not going to listen to it ever again. And Gumpy won't clip it. I'll clip it after because I'm going to. Don't clip it. I'm going to clip it. You didn't say that, but not a great idea. Thank you, Dumpy won't clip it. I'll clip it after because I'm gonna. Don't clip it. I'm gonna clip it. You didn't say that.

Thank you, Darius. I appreciate it. Hey, I was not acting. We got a truth run here. What you said was worse. Oh, fuck. Are these universe balls? Yeah. Oh, okay. And the first one was an air ball. Didn't even hit the backboard. Okay.

Well, I was aiming for the hoop. I wasn't going for the back. Oh, okay. And the first one was an air ball. Didn't even hit the backboard. Okay. Well, I was aiming for the hoop. I wasn't going for the back. Oh, I didn't even need to do that one. Okay. Okay. Okay. My heart. You guys are right.

You guys are right. I did a lot of arms earlier. Football gods. You guys are right. Okay. Listen, I don't know if you want to do that. I mean. Because I didn't know that's what was.

First of all, I hit one on this hoop yesterday. Oh, yeah. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. On the fourth one. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. you were talking a lot that's justification for me

the fourth shot okay alright let's wrap up some stuff that we haven't chatted with AJ Hawk about I wonder how Dick Good would have handled that would he have had to censor con man there if that was ESPN I think so yeah I think he would have just done a double tooth full 10 seconds

so he can't catch the beginning, middle, or end of what he was putting out of his mouth at that particular time. Ah, man, I want to say something terrible, but you know what? I won't. There's no reason to do that. Happy to hear you're not doing that. Speaking of saying something terrible, John Kraft and Bob Kraft, have you seen this? Lip readers all around the internet have told us that John Kraft, the bald

one, the son of the other one, said, I know we have to watch this. We're just not good enough, is what the lip readers are telling us. Now, he might have been talking about a movie or a play that they have to go to later. We're not 100% sure, but they were certainly in a Patriots game. And right there, we're not good enough, he says at the bottom.

They understand the situation. It's very real. And, you know, internet sleuths are going to find anything to maybe paint a picture that they want to see. But they're saying Bill Belichick getting kicked out of New England, AJ. Who's they, though? Who is they, for real? Like, is it a real thing, Boston people? I understand they're not happy with it, but do they really think they're going to fire him? He's going to go take another job?

That's real deal, right? Very, very real. I have gone into arguments with people that I kind of relay to, like, hey, what is the vibe up in New England? What is the vibe in the stadium? And there are a lot of people who are just kind of sick of the shit with Bill of Fuel, and it doesn't help with McDaniel and MCDC and these other guys who are coming in who are a new era of

head coach and everyone's seeing their success and that doesn't bode well. And the offenses. Bingo, yeah. How much different the game is because absolutely the Belichick way and how good the Patriots were, it feels like at least the vibe from the fans and

watching, they're still trying to do what they did with Brady now and you just can't do that like you have to change somehow and then yeah like Tyreek Hill and the Dolphins come in the Bills have run the division for a little bit I mean the Jets like granted they're one of our two wins but looking at what the Jets will be with Aaron like people just aren't they're done it. And the other part of it too is like, Mac Jones, great, but he doesn't have what the other quarterbacks have. And that is the ability

to just make plays no matter what. And granted, not all quarterbacks can do that, but there's two of them, three of them when Aaron's healthy in the division. And you see Mahomes and Herbert and Lamar and Burrow and Trevor Lawrence now. Kenny Pickett. There are so many guys in the division. Then you see Mahomes and Herbert and Lamar and Burrow and Trevor Lawrence now. Kenny Pickett.

Kenny Pickett. There are so many guys in the AFC. No one thinks that Mac Jones is going to be able to kind of take us to the promised land. Would you guys take Kenny Pickett right now? Absolutely not. Oh, you just said Kenny Pickett. No, I didn't. Russell Wilson.

You guys said that. We're doing this again with the Coyotes. You guys fucking said that. You did say it, but we kind of forced you into it in the mid-sentence. It was kind of a... If I said the mid-sentence. It was kind of... If I said something that made it seem like I was addressing

that statement and saying yes, I was not. Okay. Well, we agree. That's why we added it in there, but you're right. If you're on a team in the AFC, the next 10 years are very good. So if your goal or dream is to win a Super Bowl, you have to look at your coach and say, can this coach win a super bowl for us for instance in indianapolis i'm looking at shane syke i'm like

yeah i think shane syke can can for sure because the amount of points they've been able to score and also all the stories i'm hearing about behind the scenes now i don't know if the roster is ever going to get to a point that it'll be able to go win a super bowl if it'll be contenders but i have belief that the coach will be able to do that there's a lot of teams looking around they're like i don't think this coach could go win a super bowl and now he's saying that people in new if it'll be contenders, but I have belief that the coach will be able to do that. There's a lot of teams looking around, they're like, I don't think this coach could go win a Super Bowl. And now he's saying that people in New England are saying Bill can't do it either. That's wild to think about.

Peyton Manning got cut, though, from the Indianapolis Colts. That's fair. It's the roster, and obviously that starts with the quarterback. You're talking about the Colts. Shit, you look at the AFC South right now. Obviously, Levis is only two games in but he looks great I think he got named the starter officially over Tannehill over Tannehill you got CJ Stroud watching his tape he's got some of the most unbelievable tape obviously rookie or just

NFL quarterback up for a middie tomorrow up for a middie we got uh Anthony Richardson obviously haven't seen enough of him but we believe in Shane and what's going on there. And then Trevor Lawrence and Doug Peterson, what they got going on in Jacksville. So even just this division, and you would think coming into the year with the AFC South or even last year before the draft, this was a foregone, a way afterthought. So yeah, it's tough for New England up there for sure.

How about Bob and John though? What do you make of that? Them saying it's not good enough. They're judging his general manager-ness. That's right. Yeah, I would believe it. Yeah, I believe it. I'm sure they could say it. They've seen some great football for a long time,

so they understand what it is. But is it possible, though, Belichick doesn't move on, doesn't get fired, and he, someone who comes over and takes over the roster in the GM whole situation, he's just the head coach? So that was brought up, I believe, in the first hour after we were talking about Connor Stallions. I believe it was brought up in the first hour in how do you how do you see that working i don't see that working me neither like in theory would

someone from the outside come into like what if they're like hey we're gonna bring some we're gonna get some fresh blood in here some new some new eyes and somebody that has no connections with bill or the Patriots. Would that ever happen? Never. Even if Bill comes out and says, yeah, this will be able to work, it won't. This guy's 70 what?

72. How long has he been doing the GM and head coaching role? Since 2000. So is that 23 years? Yeah. He's his team. This is who's years? Yeah. His team. This is who's playing. I'm negotiating the deals. I'm deciding how much this guy's paid because that means a lot.

Like how much everybody gets paid means a lot to the hierarchy of this team. I'm deciding what type of team we're going to have. And then just to say, you know what? Yeah, you're not doing it anymore. You're just going to coach. In theory, sounds good because less work. Maybe you focus in on something you've always been really good at and everything.

But just how's Bill just at his age just be like, yeah, this other human's right. I don't know. I don't know how that's going to go. Before that, he was with Parcells, right, who was the king of the if you're going to have me cook the meal, let me shop the groceries. Yes. I don't know how. That's in Bill's blood. So if it's like

Steve Belichick or like Matt Patricia, maybe I guess, which they had in a suit on draft night. He's out of the facility at this standpoint, though. It's like, I don't know who that person is. Maybe they try to bring back a cereal. No, it's... Cereal's trying to build his own right now. For sure.

Even if that's... And they are building something special. I don't know how it works. I just don't know how human – Even if that's Broach, too, wouldn't he just – You son of a bitch. Wouldn't he just step down? Because one of these other openings, like Washington, would let him be the head coach and the GM.

Like any of these places would gladly let Bill do both. Like if they even did say, hey, we want you to do one or the other, don't you think he'd just be like, you know what, fuck it. No, I won't. That's what I'm saying. I don't know how he just says, yeah, you're right. Honestly. It is strictly if it's Michael Lombardi.

That isn't a joke. I'm being dead serious. Fans in New England, the last thing they remember about Michael Lombardi is him telling Bill Belichick to draft Nikhil Harry. So if they do do Lombardi, there will be a lot of pissed off people in New England. But I assume what you guys are saying, like if they

were to broach this idea, he would just resign and go do it somewhere else. Washington? No fucking way. But he would find a place where he would want to go. Okay, so this is going to sound stupid because we're talking about Bill Belichick. The Bengals fans said it's going to sound stupid because you're saying it. I heard them. A lot of fans say that. No, just Bengals fans

today. I respect that. I don't believe him, by the way. Neither does Ty. No, not at all. Connor doesn't think that either. No. AJ? I believe in tone. D-Bud? I believe in tone. Okay, good. That means a lot from everybody. You're welcome. Would franchises still want that from Bill, to be GM and coach?

Brand ownership in Washington? Yes. Yeah. That's why I figured it was. So you make a hire in Washington, you've got to hire a GM and a head coach. If you have the capability to hire the greatest of all time, you can only sell to your fan base. Oh, yeah.

That we're going to get the best. And even if it doesn't work, like, four years down the road, they can say, well, how do we know? We're doing everything we can. We're obviously doing everything we can to put a great product on the field, and that's all fans want. That's all I think they want to make sure, hey, you care about this team, if you're the owner.

Could you imagine this fucking guy head coaching somewhere else? What if he goes to Michigan next year? College. Okay. He could be. What do you think, Harbaugh? College. Okay. He could be. What do you think, Harbaugh? Tom comes in. Tom calls plays for him.

You know, gets back to the old stomping grounds. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man's name that was just mentioned. Paisano, a friend of the program. He's an author, a TED Talker, an email newsletter writer. He's also a former consultant and advisor for the New England Patriots Super Bowl champion. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Lombardi. Loma! Hello, Pat. How are you?

Lomba, where are you, pal? I'm in San Antonio. I just had a book fair that was kind of good, so I'm headed back to Philadelphia. It's all good. Life is good. Hell yeah. Hey, well, we are very thankful that you could join us, and shout out to that lady right behind you.

She's going to hear a great conversation. Yeah, let me do that. I'll do that. Advertisement for jewelry. It's a good reminder of what we've got to do for Christmas. It's a good reminder of what I've got to do for Christmas, right? Hey, amen. We all need to do that.

Real quickly, I want to catch you up on everything. There's rumors swirling that maybe Bill Belichick will end up being a head coach somewhere else. Then that leads to a conversation about, no, he's going to stay at New England. He's going to be the head coach. He's not going to be a GM. In theory, that sounds good. There's no way in hell Bill Belichick will stay at New England and a new GM will be brought in unless it's a guy like you, right? Like, how would that work and could it ever work?

Well, I was there once i mean you know but i think my days have passed there i mean look he's you know for he's having a bad season they're not a good team for a lot of reasons it's just not one person right it's just not one thing there's a lot of things going on injury you know no excuses but i can't imagine that any general manager is going to have enough conviction of the heart to be able to walk into Bill's office and say, here's what I want to do with the program. The program's been built. It's been successful for a lot of different reasons. And so because of that, I think they're ultimately going to, you know, how do you take all that authority away from them?

I don't understand how you do that. Yeah, me neither. They're talking about it, though, as if it's a real thing. He's 23 years he's been there doing. I don't know how that would work. So then you would just assume that if they wanted to move on, he would have to go somewhere else. Would he coach somewhere else still?

I think he's coached. Look, everybody thinks he's lost his fastball. I disagree. He works harder than any coach I've ever known. He's still on top of everything. He understands the salary cap all the way through. Hey, look, one of the things I think the Patriots people lose, they're going to have over $100 million of cap room next year.

Plus, the other thing is, Pat, is they haven't spent any money. I mean, they're one of the lowest payrolls in the league because of what's happened in the past. So, yeah, I mean, he can manage a cap. He understands value. Look, everybody can take a shot because he's down right now. I think he's one of the greatest coaches of all time. And whoever, if he goes somewhere else or if he stays,

they're going to be very happy. Oh, if he goes somewhere else. Okay, so Lambeau thinks that that is a possibility. That's crazy for us to think about. AJ has a question for you. Yeah, Lambeau, is that a real thing? You feel like if for some reason he's not in New England, he's not coaching the Patriots,

would he be open to other jobs out there in the NFL, you think? And would he want the GM role as well? Well, I think, look, I can't speak for Bill. I can only speak for what he does and what he brings to an organization. And, you know, it isn't that he doesn't know what he's doing. If the Kraft family, and I can't speak for them either, they certainly have to make their own decisions. But if they feel they could find somebody to change the tenor or change that, they could do that. But I just feel the urgency in terms of

when I have conversations. Bill's on top of it. I mean, he's at the top of his game. Why would he stop? It's like Pete Carroll. These guys, even though they're older, they're still doing unbelievable things with their teams. And yeah, Pete had a bad year. So is Bill. But that's life in the NFL. So you think he would want to do GM roles as well? I think Bill is all about winning. And I think if they were the right situation, I'm sure Bill would probably want to do whatever.

But one thing I think people misconstrue about Bill, Bill's not a dictator. I mean, he's not down. He's not Fidel Castro. He's not running a country down there. Right. You know, like like Bill takes input. Bill listens. Bill's one of the best listeners. And Bill takes advice. I mean, this is what's the biggest misnomer.

Like you can have open conversations. You ask Nick Saban on Thursday. Nick will tell you Bill's one of the greatest listeners of all time. So this idea that he has to have all the authority. No, what Bill wants more than anything is the ability to control the culture. That's more important to Bill than having all the authority.

Got it. We appreciate the hell out of you. Safe travels, okay? Make sure you get the white some jewelry. I love you guys. Thanks. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Lombardi. Okay. Hey, he is hopping on a plane. A couple people got a show there. So he didn't close the door on him coaching somewhere else.

No. Because he knows the business or because he knows Bill? That's the question now. Yeah. I think it's because he knows Bill. And we talked about this with Belichick and Brady when he left. Like two of the most competitive guys that have ever played. Obviously, they're both going to want to win on their own.

He wants the record. Like he is going to coach until he on their own. He wants the record. Like, he is going to coach until he has the NFL all-time record. That's the bottom line, I feel like. No matter what, that's happening, and he'll get it here or he'll get it in a different place. That would be crazy. It would be nuts. It sucks we got Steichen just this year.

We can trade. It would be cool for Bill. Be like a player. You know how a lot of times a player gets to a new place and it's like a new, hey, I'm restarting. Here we go. I'm re-energized.

It'd be probably pretty cool for him eventually. Think about the media too. Yeah. The media, this is their first year with him. Not the 20th year with him of him just being the way he is.

I assume that'll provide... He'll be turning to MCDC though. What if all of a sudden he's like, new team, new Bill and he's like MCDC? What if he's giving fullDC, though? What if all of a sudden he's like, new team, new bill, and he's like MCDC? What if he's given full lectures? Like they ask about, what's the health on this player next week?

He goes, let me tell you about the sprained ankle. So there was a time in 1999 where we didn't even know what a full sprained ankle. Instead of like the, we'll keep it updated on the medical report. We're on to this. What if he did just flip the script completely? That'd be awesome. What if he just wanted suit, tie, looked good, properly, hair perfect? That'd be cool because when Gronk left, he flipped the script and it was sick.

So if Bill leaves and does that, it would be awesome. What are you talking about? When Gronk left, we got way more of Gronky, and I freaking love that. So if Bill were to do that, and we were going to get the Gronk version of Bill... Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. You're talking about whenever guys retire, they are...

No, no. When Gronk went to Tampa, what did he mean? What do you mean? He let his personality out a little bit? That's what I mean, yeah. We got more... No, but we knew Gronk before. We did not have Tommy and Gronky beach chair talk. We did not have that for a bit. That's what I mean. We knew Gronk before. We did not have Tommy and Gronky beach chair talk. We did not have that for a fact. That was sweet. It makes me wonder about the social team

up there. We should have been coming up with a little bit more ideas. Think about all the characters that have been on that roster. You know what I mean? You think Bill's running social media too? No, I'm saying to get that out of Bill, to get Gronky Bill, if Bill were to leave, that would be a shoot. What if Bill has a social media show every week? He does.

He does it with the New England social team every week. What if he goes out? Really? Is that when he draws Bill's breakdowns? Yeah. Very good. Yeah, it's awesome. I love that.

What if he goes to the next place, he's laughing, having fun, has the new hat, and he's like, this is all Kraft's rules. Throw the hat here, bleach his hair blonde. Yeah, it'd be sweet. It's Kraft, guys, the miserable one. Everybody's like this is all craft's rules everybody here which is hair blonde yeah be sweet it's craft guys the miserable one everybody's blaming me this whole time i'm just this is the guy that's been doing it all firing people early yeah that's him this is me okay i got a suit on i'm very excited to talk to you i love this craft used to threaten to kill me if i said anything to the media grow that grow that vince mcm mustache. That'd be sweet. That Vince stache, pretty good.

Get that hair, too. Jet black. That's natural. That's what I mean. Get that hair, Bill. You see how much it matches? Oh, yeah. Perfectly. It does.

He needs to get the flavor saver in there so we can get the full friend aristocrat. I would say Vince and Jim are like the same person just 30 years apart, It does. He needs to get the flavor saver in there so we can get the full. Oh, yeah. And Irsay needs to take notes. I would say Vince and Jim are like the same person just 30 years apart, but look the same. What the hell? Are they 30 years apart? Oh, they're like 15 years apart. Jim Irsay was dancing with the boys yesterday.

Two days ago. Dancing. Yeah, I saw a lot of people saying that ain't dancing. What were they saying? They were saying that guy isn't dancing. He's off the yerks is what people were saying. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means. Yerks is what people are calling perks

these days, I guess. Nah, Jim ain't doing that. It's the cleanest Jim's been, baby. Jim's living his best life. Got grandkids. I'm happy to see him having a good time. There was a time where he'd come in the locker room Just kind of sit there And then keep it moving Now he's dancing

To Meek Mill In the middle of all the boys Shane Steichen Look at this Shane Steichen How many owners Last year None

Right Last year he did The bat on the table We will rock you That was sick That was awesome Yeah he's one of the Greatest content creators

Of all time What about the circle Right What about the circle You put outside the locker room? That's the circle right there. That's a quote. Perfect example right there.

Perfect quote. Put the video back up. You don't have to play it. Get to the end. Oh, yeah. I can't. Look at the circle. There's a circle.

There's a circle. There's a circle. Look at the circle. Yep. Circle, just like the quote he has right outside the locker room's a circle. There's a circle. Circle. Yep. Circle, just like the quote he has right outside the locker room. Wow.

Wow. You don't think that guy knows football? You think he might change the logo because the horseshoe's open? Kind of a good idea. He closes it.

Puts like a title at the top across it. Indy or something. Those Codes fans would get pissed off. Bill McComas and them would not be happy about changing that logo.

Don't forget it a week later. What was Miles Garrett talking? You see it, son of of a did you see what he said he said these weren't good he said they're mine he didn't love it he said that was awesome it's kind of scary listen to him talk like he's so matter of fact of how like yeah i'm gonna dominate everybody yeah those jerseys are mine that's when you see those jerseys, you think of me. It's like, alright, that's cool, man. Kind of. Kind of do actually think of him. That's his goal, too. He was asked, and he said, yeah, I like going into away stadiums

and just kind of, that stealing noise from 50,000 people at the same time is just awesome. It's like, this guy has the right mentality. I think this guy has it figured out for a long time. I don't need to talk. I'm a quiet storm. Guys know when I line up against them, it's their ass.

How about him doing it? He said he was doing this in practice. He was just doing it in practice. One of the guys to know, like, this ain't just, you know, this ain't just whenever it doesn't matter time. It's like, bro, real game doing that. Hopping over people. He's a specimen.

Did you see his office? Sweet. Was that a big dinosaur situation on the wall? Yeah, T-Rex. Not a situation, huh? I mean, was it a poster? What was it? No, it was an actual wall art replica.

Yeah. Like The Rock. The Rock had a real dinosaur behind him at one point. Bingo. There's only like three of them or whatever. In the world. And Wiles had one. Replica?

Is that what you just said? I think that was a replica. No. That was the T-Rex from Jurassic Park that he had in his office. With an actual dinosaur. Yeah. Pretty cool. This guy said it was a real dinosaur.

Okay. Yeah, it's in. Yeah, it is. Yep. Oh. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Right back.

Yep, universe. Shit. All right, so it might be a fake dinosaur. No, no. He had Spielberg come in, and he did it with him. Spielberg's making fake dinosaurs. Yeah, what are you? No.

What were the other stuff? What was the other stuff, Cito? Naruto, Z. There was a lot of cartoon stuff, like that Dragon Ball Z was up there. Bill, what was all that stuff? Anime. There's your guy. Bill, what was all that stuff? Can we pull's your guy. Bill, what was all that stuff?

We're pulling up. Bill, what is all this? Come here, Bill. Bill? Bill. Is this your thing, Bill? First of all, video comics. Oh, don't do that, Bill.

You're not near the microphone. I have no idea what you're doing. What happened? Okay, what's the 10%? I think there's a little bit of My Hero Academia. Where's that at? What is that? What is that?

Where's that? Just classic anime. I have no idea. There's just people in the chat that were saying it. Where's that at? What is that? What is that? Where's that? Just classic anime. I have no idea. There's just people in the chat that were saying it. What are those little heads above him? His left shoulder, like the first row over his left shoulder. A lot of people collect those. They're called peeps, I thought.

Yeah, Ty has one actually, a Dale right there, the Intimidator. That's the same thing. Oh, nice. What is that, a Funko? Yeah, Funko Pop. I've heard of Funko. It's WWE has those those are collectible though

those are you can get them autographed by if you could those guys will autograph you run into them so Naruto's going to autograph one of these things the actor maybe who plays it

it looks like he's got a slash right above his head to a right. That looks like slash, so you can get a slash on it. It is a sick, sick cabinet setup. Yeah. That's a record player too, bottom right. That's an old school record player, so he's probably got a bunch of vinyl. And let's go to when he turned the other way, when he set up all the comics and shit.

I mean, it was, oh, there it is. That's a replica. Oh, it's a replica. No, I don't know. I think that might be real. Still with the skin on and everything. Where's the raptor at? Looks like he's.

I think it's down. You can't see it. Is it in a mall? No, there's the raptor. Boom. Miniature T-Rex. It's not miniature. It's not miniature.

It's a mall. You're right. He's just very big. Those lines on his back, too. I think he has the actual skeleton bones. Let's go to the other side here. That's a brand new hat he's wearing, I see. Oh, look at that guy top right.

What's that scary creature right there? Is that a dragon? Oh, that looks like a Demogorgon from Stranger Things. It might be a gremlin. Is that a predator? Yeah, that looks like AVP. So what is that one on the left with the sweet hair with the red pants in the middle of a kick? I think that's Goku.

That's Goku from Dragon Ball Z. you called that earlier yeah yeah oh we had a friend named goku growing up i did not until this moment it's probably a good call that is what he looked like actually no his name was chris called goku nice oh he's got the barn doors. Nice hat. Good play. And then all those. Oh, nice. That's a great office, dude. Musgrave has a great office. Remember his yard?

Remember his yard at Halloween? Yeah, we didn't even get into the Halloween talk, but we did get a chance to chat about his partnership with Municipal, and then Connor got to showcase his flexibility. He has those Municipal shoes on right now from Mark Wahlberg. Nice. Big deal. Hey, they're really nice shoes. Legit. They actually are. I see Wahlberg wearing them.

He works out of 3 a.m. every day. He wears those. His stuff pops up all the time. He's always pumping his shoes. He's always talking about them. They look very comfortable. The shoes, the municipal, and then what is prayer app? Car dealership. Wahlbergers.

I always see the prayer app though. Whataburger. I always see the prayer app, though. Whataburger is here? Nah, Walburger. Mark Walburger. Same thing. I think Drama runs it. Really? I'm not sure if that's correct.

No, no. Donnie Wahlberg, I believe. His brother, not Drama. No, his brother runs it. That's what he was saying. You can't get Drama, but I get what you're saying. Yeah. Aren't you guys all so smart?

You assholes. I'm actually smarter than you guys. I watched a reality show back in the day. It's not Donnie. Donnie's still performing and selling out arenas. Yeah, because he's out there with Backstreet Boys and such. Is that the group? Donnie? No, he's with the New Kids on the Block, but they do a boy band tour.

I think he sold out Indie. I believe they did. These motherfuckers were selling out arenas at the age of 60. Oh, yeah? Justin Timberlake got cooked on the internet for some dance moves he showcased. Oh, really? Yeah, and he said, oh, JT lost it. He said, oh, JT lost it.

No. That'd be the first time. That's what they said. He said it, and then I guess there was a book, too, that said some stuff. I mean, JT's in a spot right now. He's just golfing. Yeah, that book didn't help. Needs to put social media aside, you know?

I don't know if we can trust that book. We see the videos that are coming out from the author. So? She's good at dancing. A lot of alleged things coming out, I guess, is what we should say. We have no idea what the truth is. Didn't know the truth back then, though, I think is what we're also learning. Yes.

And although that was 20 years ago. I just don't know how her memory is right now he talks we understand what you're saying we get we do we understand but we just like everybody to be happy yeah that is an interesting scene though that is an interesting scene what's going on yeah people have come full circle to the point like the people who were wanting the conservatorship or whatever the word is wanted that thing gone it's come all the way back around where they're like i think we fucked up that's what at least people are saying on you guys have no idea unless you're like our age you have no clue britney spears came in like an actual wrecking ball original and then christina aguilera she was original taylor it was real. She was everywhere. She was huge.

And then NSYNC, obviously, Backstreet Boys. And then now to kind of watch it all unfold, it was like, I was all, it's Britney, bitch. Let her live. For sure. Toxic. Toxic. And then now when she makes her way to my algo, it's like, Britney, what are we doing? What happened?

Going to the Catholic school. Having fun. That Hit Me Baby One More Time video, as you say, that influenced how a lot of people were dressing in Catholic schools. And I don't think the institutions were necessarily too excited about that. That was Catholic school, wasn't it? Yeah.

Now that I think about it. Now Ice Spice is telling people what to do too. And that's not much better in Catholic school. So I heard that's this generation. Who's... She did her cakes out in the concert. Yeah, she did. She's dressed as Betty Boop.

Yeah. Okay. I didn't know that. Who's this little Wagyu? Yeah. Little Mabu? There it is. He popped into my –

That's Mitt's favorite. Yeah, Mabu. That's Bruce's favorite. I'll tell you. Little Wagyu. I thought I knew something. That's a better name. W-A-G-U, but it's little Mabu.

Yeah, like Malbu. He popped into my algorithm a couple times. I'll tell you something. That's a better name. W-A-G-U, but it's a little Mabu. Yeah, like Malbu. He popped into my algorithm a couple times. I'll tell you what, this guy goes hard. That's Mitt's guy. Well, it makes sense. Yeah. Mitt Rods for Mabu. Dude.

Got a Mabu shirt on yesterday. Did he really? He's popping right now. He just caught up to the show. Hey, Mitt, who's Mabu, dude? This guy. Yeah, he's- He goes very hard.

He's a menace. He's sleeping with Chris Sean Rock, I believe is the name of it. Chris Rock? No. Chris Rock. Chris Sean Rock. Hey, who is this? How long has little my boo been doing it?

He's going back here, I think. I just saw him slither. Why did he go back there? He's a rapper, yeah, dude. And he actually, the thing that popped into my eye a while ago was he said, I actually recorded this in my dorm room. And then he was like,

fly your girl out to New York and sign her tits. And I'm like, what is this? I did not expect Wagyu to sound how he sounded. I was gobsmacked as Pete Thamel would say about what was happening. Mitt, how long has this mobbo

been mobbing? I don't really know. This is not my guy. This is Bruce's guy. This is something that actually Nick did find on the internet and then showed to me. I guess he's making videos with some dude's ex-girlfriend. I don't know. It's a bad scene. I guess he's making videos with some dude's

ex-girlfriend. I don't know. It's a bad scene. I wouldn't really dive in. I appreciate you not being the only human that knows these types of things, which is good news for all of us. Bruce, you're a big Mabu guy? How long has this been around, Mabu?

He came on the scene with a freestyle cypher type thing where he's like underneath, I believe, the Brooklyn Bridge. Going pretty hard, I will say. He goes very hard. Yep. This white goes very hard. Yep, he's like a private school kid from Manhattan, I believe.

And this recent thing with Blueface, that was a little bit of a bridge too far. Might be getting a little above his skis. But he did decide to go to college. He was going to forego college after graduating from high school. But now he is enrolled in college. College will always be there, Mabu. I had to guess Marist. Maybe NYU.

Alright, well thank you for the heads up on who Mabu is. That came into my algorithm. I was yesterday, literally yesterday just learned of this. Get off the tracks. My booze coming. My booze coming. Yeah. Get your ass out of the fucking way.

Friday we'll be in Athens speaking to get off the tracks. What's that coming down the track? It's a mean machine of the red and black. Going to have to learn the rest of that. Hopefully for Friday, but definitely for college game day on Saturday. Big weekend as Ole Miss goes in there, Tony. Yeah, that'll be – I'm excited to see if Ole Miss can stop Georgia because I think Georgia can get some stops.

But that's always the case against these teams. Like LSU-Bama last week. Can LSU get some stops? They couldn't. That's kind of how it is. Penn State-Michigan, that's going to be huge. AJ Hawk. Could you imagine Penn State wins this game?

Now, I know where all the other discussion is about everything happening around the Michigan football team and I can assume that could galvanize the boys in the locker room, but Penn State at home at night? I'd assume, right? I'd assume it is whiteout. Is A.Q. Shipley speaking to the team before?

We need that. Yep. It's actually, it's a noon game because remember, it's November. Oh, fuck. They're not allowed to do the list. Bob literally just told us. That's ridiculous. Because of the snow.

Travel. Yeah. That's an old school Big Ten rule. I believe you guys made it a long time ago. This is for AQ. Tough place to get to. AQ, hey, we're live. Hey, what's up? Can't have a night game because it's november they can't have a whiteout for michigan coming

to town it's the best the team's been in a long time not going to use your best weapon which is the fan base and uh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Can you do a day night or a day whiteout? All right. You bald fuck. What if you win? If we win, Penn State's back. If you lose? It's another 10-2 season like it is every other year.

All right. Well, don't give up hope, all right? Have a good day, pal. Yeah, it's a shame. 10-2, tough day. Yeah. year. All right. Well, don't give up hope, all right? Have a good day, pal. Yeah, it's a shame. 10-2, tough day. Yeah. Can never make it to the Big Ten Championship, though. Yeah.

Can never play for anything other than maybe Gary Bull. That's right. That's a tough spot to be. Next year, though, no divisions, right? Correct. Ooh. That'll be interesting. It's going to be a big deal for teams like Penn State.

Murderous road. And for teams like Iowa. Well, it's going to be just fine. Who's Iowa got this weekend? Anybody? Yeah, expect fireworks in Iowa City at Kinnick. They got Rutgers coming into town. I believe it is the lowest over-under in the history of college football. What is it?

I think it's 28. I believe 27. There's no way they get to 28. No, no, no, no. I think it was 27 and a half maybe at one point whenever I saw it first reported. And it's like, okay, two touchdowns, both these teams, no way. Are you kidding me? No way.

Not a chance. But Shiano's ready to fire a round out there. You watch this Iowa team play football ever? No. Smart. No. It's like last night's game with the Jets just watching it. Better than you, Don.

That's the thing, though, is Iowa wins. It's fair. It's their point. So, you know. I mean, again, everyone Iowa wins. It's fair. It's their point. So, you know. I mean, again, everyone can laugh. They can say whatever the fuck they want. But we'll see you guys in Indy at the Big Ten Championship. And how do you feel it's going to go?

Well, they'll get their asses kicked for sure. But it's the one time I'll get to see my Hawks in person. So they just really can't believe it's going to be funny. What do you do? You have a couple drinks, a couple pops while you're watching this? A couple? If Iowa makes it to the Big Ten Championship, I'll drink 100 beers. What?

Yeah. 28.5 now. 29.5 on one book. Going up. Let's let that get to 30. Over? AJ? Deacon Hill did say the offense is getting better week after week. We're getting better week after week.

And he would know. I mean, he's completing 41% of clips. Did they score last week 10? Pretty good. They scored 10, but they had a pick in the red zone, which you can't do when you don't ever fucking score points. And they missed a 50-yard field goal. So they should have won 20-7 last week.

Had to settle for 10-7. But, again, no one was talking about the blustery wins in Wrigley. How about the turf? I saw them trying to fix that. Yeah, it was a joke. And I know a couple of the guys who were painting the lines from the Iowa side. And when I saw that, I said, oh, boy, we might be in trouble. If they entrusted that guy to do that, we might be in trouble.

And we almost were, but they got the job done. Yes, they did. Found a way. Definitely under, though. No question about it. 29 and a half. Until further notice. It's just like how I feel about Georgia. Absolutely. Georgia's number one in the country until somebody does something that proves that they're not. And when that happens, we will certainly

acknowledge it. Until then, I feel like they're number one. Excited for the CFP top 25 tonight. Yeah. Because there's going to be movement just because they want to be able to say, well, they didn't play as good as we wanted them. Sure. I don't know. And Bob.

This team outperformed how we thought they were going to be. We moved them from 19 to 18. That's right. It's like that type of stuff is what I really enjoy about a committee. You know what I mean, AJ? That's right. It's like that type of stuff is what I really enjoy about a committee. You know what I mean, AJ?

Really zoning in and making the critical decisions that nobody else can make, AJ. It's smart. You make something that's not a TV program, you make it a primetime program. I get it. Great show. I watch it every single – I really love it. Reese is hosting it, who's our guy, by the way, and it's beautiful to kind of watch it unfold.

Everybody on camera doesn't know what they are until you see them, so you get natural reactions. Greg McElroy is a dictionary. That guy's got all, I mean, I've never just immediately read through it. He's phenomenal. Joey Galloway, great. Booger, fantastic on there. And then Herbie. Obviously.

Bringing it home, obviously. Herbie does a lot of, what's that? Yeah. Is that right? What? What does that mean? And then it's just literally everything. Literally everything is in there.

Oh, yeah. It's a phenomenal thing. All right. Time for us to get the hell out of here. Great Tuesday. Hell yeah. Today was fun. Yes, it was.

I enjoyed today. Thank you for that, Darius. We'll be back tomorrow with a great one. Oh, yeah. Huge. Hey, tomorrow we're packed out. Massive show. A lot of stuff to talk about too, AJ, as this football season and sports world continues.

What will be the update from Connor Stallion? Yeah. That's becoming a thing around here. You need to hear him. There's something every day. Just something so absurd. Hasn't anyone tracked him down? We haven't seen anything from him. His lawyer spoke, I guess, but people are saying we're never going to hear from him.

You think it's easy to track down a captain from the Marines, my friend? You have another thing coming, brother. Did you see his disguises? We've already seen a couple of them. Yeah, yeah. His son of a bitch is going to be tough to find. It's probably going to be. He has flushes everywhere.

Yeah. Got a new face by him. I can't wait until the next job. You ever read a Jack Carr book? It's impossible to track them down. Exactly. AJ, what are you giving away? How about 10 merches when you make this first one?

Yeah. You got a new store coming, right? Tomorrow. Oh, good idea. Tomorrow. No, no, we'll wait for tomorrow. We'll wait for tomorrow. Okay, yeah.

Smart, smart. Oh. Yep. Oh. Oh, that. Oh. Yep. Oh. That would have been sweet. Oh. Both of those felt really good. Yeah, both good.

Looked good off the... Made a football one earlier that said to you... Yep, that's right. Yeah, the fourth out of... That's fine. They were universe balls. Yeah. Well, the fourth usually...

Usually by then... Still the universe. Oh, you don't trust the universe? Aaron Rodgers walking without crutches because of the universe. Yeah, I trust the universe on first signs. The look is clean, guys. What's that? This one with the tuck-in shirt?

It is absurd. Get some of those pants. Yeah, David, thank you for the pants, pal. I mean, I don't know if they're not supposed to go all the way down, but it looks super fashionable. You know, and I tucked in a tank top. Sweet. Yeah, the tuck looks tucked in the tank top. Sweet. Yeah, the tuck looks great.

Super professional. Great tuck. You know, I'm not as fat as I once was, so I could tuck in a shirt. I could look real ridiculous. I had a pinky. Get one of those. Get your shin guard on. All right.

It is down there. Super fashionable. It's for the Buffalo Beals. Get them back on track. They do Beals. Get them back on track. Get them back on track. They're fucked. It actually matches everything. It's perfect.

I said they're fucked. Oh, you've been really negative today. No, I haven't. Yeah. Yeah, you certainly have. You said earlier. You sucked on Coyote earlier. No, I didn't.

You made him squeal putting stuff in his mouth. That's out of context. That's out of context. That's what you did. No, I didn't. You made him squeal putting stuff in his mouth. That's out of context. That's out of context. That's what you did. No, that's out of context. You said I had great vibes today. I feel great about today.

I love today. You did have great vibes today. Bills are fucked, though. I mean, that just is what it is. It is interesting. Much different team than what we thought. Their vibes were different, just like yours were today. But even much different team than we thought, kind of.

Their whole offseason was what's going on in Buffalo. It wasn't a good thing. No, they were doing fashion. They's going on in Buffalo. It wasn't, like, a good thing. No, they were doing fashion. They should have done a little more football. There are a lot of seasons left. Let's understand that. Pittsburgh Steelers could go win a Super Bowl. We don't know.

In the playoffs right now? We have no idea what's going to take place. That's why tomorrow shall be awesome. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Goodbye.