The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1016 - MNF Recap, Dan Orlovsky, Aaron Rodgers, Texans Head Coach DeMeco Ryans, Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap last night’s Monday Night Football game between the Broncos and Bills that saw the Broncos getting a massive game winning field ago as time expired, which begs the question, are the Bills and Josh Allen broken, will firing Ken Dorsey (which happened today) change anything, and what happens moving forward. Joining the progrum to break down the issues with the Bills offense, what’s going on with the Patriots and Mac Jones, why Josh Dobbs has had success in Minnesota, why Jordan Love has regressed, and more is 12 year NFL veteran at QB, and ESPN NFL analyst, Dan Orlovsky (). Next, 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, Quarterback for the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers chats about the issues surrounding the Jets currently, what they need to do to get better, how his recovery is going, what his target date is, and more (). Later, 10 year NFL veteran at LB, 2x Pro Bowler, All-Pro, 2006 Defensive Rookie of the Year, and current Head Coach of the Houston Texans, DeMeco Ryans joins the show to chat about their success thus far, how great CJ Stroud has been on the field and in the locker room, the difference between calling games from the sideline and the booth, and much more (). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, November 14, 2023, this sports program starts now. Football! Happened last night, and boy, is there a story coming out of western New York. Now, obviously, we can talk about the Broncos getting a massive win. Congrats on the Broncos being back. Let's go, Russ. Feels like whatever Sean Payton has been trying to cook in that kitchen

with Russ being the sous chef, it is coming to fruition. They look a lot better than they looked at the beginning of the year. They're giving up 70 points. I mean, Vance Joseph's turning that defense around seemingly with all the talent that they have. And what they looked like last year, maybe Russell Wilson's Broncos tenure is not going to be one that we all laugh about because the Let's Ride or the Mr. Unlimited or the Danger Witch or any of that stuff,

which has really been his time in Denver. Maybe we'll remember it as one that became great with Sean Payton, and maybe he will be able to become Drew Brees 2.0 in that Sean Payton offense. We saw some old school Russ last night. He was juking and jiving and turning and spinning, and did he hit Lockett in the corner of the end zone? Were we back in Seattle watching him throw a nuke to Cortland Sutton with an incredible toe-drag-swag? Shout out to Nate Burleson, currently talking about the Ukraine war.

And also what's going on with Israel and Palestine. When at one point he was talking toe-drag-swags and we missed the hell out of him, obviously. But this catch, phenomenal. Old Russ, though, showed up here in a massive way. So we could talk about the Broncos and Will Lutz making the kick when he had to. Wow. Can't have 12 people on the defensive side of the ball

in that particular situation, which leads us to a great execution of NASCAR on May Day at the end of half and at the end of game. By the way, no timeouts, no steps. Who cares? Buffalo Bills are not prepared. Had 12 people on the field. Kind of a conversation that's being lost and win

because this morning, ladies and gentlemen, the Buffalo Bills have fired offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey. Now, you would certainly ask yourself, this is less than 12 hours after the game ended. Holy hell, they've been fed up. But then you start looking around at that whole team. It's like, it's not just the offense that's problematic. Special teams are obviously a problem.

The vibes are obviously a problem. The culture is obviously a problem. What the hell is going on in Buffalo? That'll be a large portion of the conversation on this particular day after the Broncos go into Western New York and get a big time win in a prime time game that was certainly a snoozer. Certainly a snoozer, but the AFC East sucks on TV.

Let's talk about the NFC East. The AFC East sucks on television. We had to sit through the Patriots and Colts in the morning. Patriots, so boring. We had to sit through the Jets and Raiders on primetime Sunday. So boring. And then Monday night, we had to sit through Josh Ryland and the Buffalo Bills. So boring.

But we're moving on. We're moving ahead. We got a big conversation to be had today because there's not just one move being made in the NFL. There is a plenty. Aaron Rodgers will be joining us in the next hour. Dan Orlovsky will be joining us in about 17 minutes. He's got some ideas.

Yeah, he does. Buffalo Bills offense and every other offense that maybe isn't putting up 1,000 yards a game. Dan Orlovsky has the remedy and the answer because all this guy does, he spends 20 hours. 20 hours a day. Yep, that's right. Watching film and learning everything that is happening everywhere.

So we got 1,000 questions to ask him in about 17 minutes. And then also head coach of the Houston Texans, D'Amico Ryans will join us in the third hour on YouTube and ESPN+. There's big news coming out of Houston. We will certainly ask him about that, but that's not going to be the entire topic of the conversation because what's going on in Houston is fantastic with C.J. Stroud. We put out a video yesterday. Talk, shout out. Hey, talk, talk.

On TikTok and on Instagram. C.J. Stroud for MVP is a very well-liked thought by everybody. This dude is loved by young fans of the NFL. This dude's game in Houston has been superb, and the head coach for him is also a rookie head coach. Don't really talk about that whenever we're talking about the rookie quarterback. We got a rookie head coach as well.

He'll be joining us in the third hour. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt, back to back with Sea Turtle shirts. I like what you're cooking over there, mullet man. Yeah, I figured I'd run it back. Last week, we did the two horses. This week, we're doing the two sea turtles. You know, yesterday was a great day.

Want to hammer home the.2. Can't use paper straws. I know. Sometimes that can be lost. Can't be doing that. Just stick with the plastic. Sorry to the environment. Don't kill any turtles.

But, yeah, it's a good day. It's a good day to be here. I mean, especially with the Buffalo Beals. You just, I don't, you said a lot there. I did. Without saying much. Yeah. Bingo.

That was fantastic. It was like a Schefter much. Yeah, bingo. That was fantastic. It was like a Schefter answer. Yeah, trying to be. But in there, we're not 100% behind plastic straws, though. We'd like to let that be known. But we certainly would say plastic straws are way, one million times better than the paper straws. Yep.

But we love a sea turtle. So if there's another alternative that isn't paper, because since the beginning of paper's existence, liquid has been its absolute arch nemesis yeah it is ruined so having it as a straw straw needs liquid right that's actually a part of it oh yeah it's just a bad idea like we just think it's a bad idea we need somebody to come up with something different so his beautiful sea turtles can breathe while they're down there swimming around yeah exactly it won't get done. We will not find something better, but that's okay.

No, smart people will figure it out. They always do. They do. Smart people always figure it out. Ken Dorsey going to figure it out for us? Well, listen, if he had a camera on him right now, not with what you just said, but with the Buffalo Bills, dude, I assume there's a lot of motion and a lot of antics and a lot of fiery Ken Dorsey.

Because we do remember down in Miami, whenever they threw a ball into the dirt, whenever they could have won the game, but they instead, they lost it just from last season. Ken Dorsey was caught on a little bit of a spy cam from CBS, losing his shit. Now, there was people that said, this is going to be a stain on him for the rest of his life. People are going to think, wow, this guy, a little fiery, threw a temper tantrum. He was like a child, like my teenage kid was. But I think what the players saw was a guy that cared. I think everybody that has been in the NFL was like,

hey, that's just an emotional guy, loves his team, wants him to succeed, especially after Dayball left and he was being questioned about everything. Now here we sit, week 10 into his second year as the offense coordinator, and it's not good. That offense is terrible. Josh Allen has gotten much worse this year. Now why? We don't know.

His explosives last year in the years past since Stephon Diggs has gotten on the team has been at the top of the league. So whenever he would throw it and turn the ball over, he would also be getting tuds and explosive and electricity and everything on the other side of it. So it kind of disguised itself. Now, no explosives, same turnovers. It's bad.

Also on his face, looks like he's not the same Josh Allen. He looks like Jared Goff used to look. Jared Goff used to look this way, kind of a deer in the headlights, kind of lost, not inspired, not excited, not confident. I think all those things kind of happened with Goff. He gets to Detroit. Now, he's a killer, stone-cold killer. You can see it on his face whenever he's playing.

Josh Allen used to look like that. Now, it's a whole different Josh Allen, kind of lost in there. They're calling players only offensive meetings. Latavius Murray, first year there, says, you know, we just got to get some things off their chest. And you hear Josh Allen give a motivational speech, and I don't know if it just so happened to be the motivational speech that he chose for that particular day,

or if it's relevant to what the team's going through. He said, whatever's going on outside of here, leave it out there. Let's just play football. So I hear those two things, and I think to myself, what the is going on in the Buffalo Beals locker room? And then you watch them play, and it's like, this team just doesn't feel like the teams of the past. We heard in the past these guys used to stay in the facility

for hours and hours and hours playing cards and dominoes, and Boo Ray was obviously there. Gabe Davis told us there's still a card game happening, but the vibes are not what it used to be. Feels like they're maybe not as tight. Then he got Trayvon Diggs putting out his tweets. His brother, it is a nightmare in Buffalo.

I assume we bet against them forever. One half of the hammer. Cowboys telling Diggs, I said forever, but at least until they figure out what the hell's going on. Yeah, there's teams that throughout the season you put on a don't bet list. They have been added to that list because you don't know who they are. You don't know what you're going to get from them.

I believe the Hammer Don boys were on the Broncos last night, so good for them. I don't know who they are, but pretty good gamblers. I was as well, by the way. Plus seven and a half. It was a tweet. We forgot to do it on show. So I apologize.

I only took them because A.J. took the Bills and I needed one to tie it up. But it felt like the right bet. Well, it feels like two teams going in different directions right now. Like the Broncos started off horrible. Horrible, horrible, horrible. Yeah, to the Dolphins. Guess what? The Bills beat that team.

And now they are going in the opposite direction. They are just an absolute dumpster fire. Yeah, not a team that you could bet on right now. Not a team I would suggest. Because you just don't know what you're going to get opposite direction. They are just an absolute dumpster fire. Yeah, not a team that you could bet on right now. Not a team I would suggest because you just don't know what you're going to get from them. Shout out to ESPN Bet, by the way, debuting sometime today. Sometime today.

Sometime today. I don't know. We're all eagerly awaiting ESPN Bet to launch. Congrats to all the parties behind the scenes that did that. They will be the odds presenter for this particular program. So all of the odds and spreads that you will see on this show going forward will be from, boom, right down there. You see it odds by espn bet we used to go get the

best line for both teams from all of them now we're an espn bet show whenever it comes the odds so we will be giving you their odds now at the score i believe.com which pen the company that is partnering with espn bet i think owns you can still see the ESPN bet lines before the app launches, so we're still able to get that whole thing. But their lines have been very friendly. I don't want to speak too loud, but we've been seeing them for like the last week or two, and it's like they're giving a little better lines

than a lot of places right now. It feels like the right move, but while they're doing it, we punish them. We have no idea when it's launching today. No idea. None. Nope. Surprise.

Surprise. That's right. What it's going to do. But when it does, we download it, we take advantage of it, and we appreciate it. And who would I be not to mention primetime under is now 25-7. Damn. Good stat. Let's remember that for Thursday night as an AFC North battle and rivalry takes place.

But let's get back to last night. I put a tweet out. Nine-year NFL vet. Host of the Man to Man podcast and everything. DB, Darius J. Butler. Looks incredibly fly. Super fly today. Super duper fly.

I put a tweet out last night. Said, I'm confused by Josh Allen. I'm so confused by it. Because he's supposed to be the guy. He's supposed to have all the intangibles. The size, the speed, the competitive juices. The energy. the intelligence. He's supposed to be the prototype of what people are looking for.

This guy's 6'5", whatever, can run, can take a hit. The boys love him. His hand's gigantic. And he can throw it forever. And then we've seen over the years him make some dumb decisions at times, whether it's with his body taking a hit that he didn't need or a throw that he certainly didn't have to throw. But on the flip side, he was great. So we were able to kind of enjoy it and say, yeah, that's what I want on my team. Nobody wants this guy on their team now. What the hell has happened, Darius? And why do you think we're seeing this? Is it Ken Dorsey?

Do we think that is what it was? And what is this potentially going to do for Josh Allen and Bill's the rest of the year? It's definitely not all on Ken. I wouldn't say it's all on Josh either. Definitely a combination of the two. He had his best ball, obviously, when Stephon Diggs got there and Brian Dayball was calling plays and designing the whole thing. That's a part of this as well. We talked

about it yesterday with quarterbacks having different voices and different philosophies, different play calls, and all these different things. Josh, it's been as it'sie Hill from the jump. You mentioned all the explosive plays and him being special, but just turning the ball over too much. You know, the fumble, I don't know if that ball was slick last night, but the fumble, Cook had a few of them.

He had one on the handoff. The turnovers, the first one went off Gabe Davis' hand, but the other one was just, I mean, unacceptable. And you got to take care of the ball. I don't care how special you are as a talent. You have to take care of the football. I don't care how special you are as a talent. You have to take care of the football. And a lot of times you watch the tape, it doesn't seem like he has a bunch of answers pre-snap.

Like he doesn't know where he's going with the ball, what the coverage is going to be. It's not designed like a Ben Johnson offense or a Kyle Shanahan, Mike McDaniel. A lot of those are designed throwing windows to attack coverages. Easy. I don't want to say easy, but easier.

Easier. Yeah, and that's what you should have for your quarterback. Like the majority of their passes should be designed in easier throws, mental-wise at least. For him, it's like he almost has to be special, like a backyard type, you know, run to his left, run to his right, make a great throw to dig. So too much of that. Offensive line could be better as well.

Running game, I think, is the only bright spot consistently when they actually hand the ball off and the running backs take care of it. Hey, Latavius did okay. I've been wondering why Latavius Murray's been taking reps away from James Cook and then first play and then another one. Ball was on the ground. That first play fumble where they ripped it out of his hands.

I think A.J. said it when we were watching Oklahoma-Texas. He said, hey, all game here, Oklahoma's been the alphas. Like, after the play, little shots. Like, who's staying on top of who a little bit longer? Who's being a little bit more physical?

First play of the game last night, they ripped the ball out of the damn guy's hands. It was like, yo, Broncos, here we go. Like, I felt good about Broncos plus seven and a half. Like, hey, they showed up ready for this one. Now, obviously, they've been mocked and ridiculed all season long, this Denver Broncos plus 7.5. Like, hey, they showed up ready for this one. Now, obviously, they've been mocked and ridiculed all season long, this Denver Broncos defense. We said it. I've already said it

three times because it's such a numb. They give up 70 to a team. And that is not something that happens in professional football. You can have a bad day and give up 50 and everybody's like, oh, 50 burger. Oh, 70? That's a whopper, dude. That's not just a burger. That's a quarter pounder. That is a half pounder. That's a whopper, dude. That's not just a burger.

That's a quarter pounder. That is a half pounder. That's a lot of meat. That's a big ass beating. And it's like that team has had to live with that. Yeah. You know, so I'm prime time. First play of the game, they rip it out.

I'm like, damn, okay, Broncos defense is back maybe. And then didn't see James Cook. And then he showed him on the sideline like pacing back and forth. And I'm like, what's going through James Cook's mind? You know, what's happening there? But on the Bills, in the Bills defense, and maybe it's Ken Dorsey. We have no idea if it's McDermott or Ken Dorsey. You'd assume that'd

be a head coach's decision. But on their side it's like, he also did fumble. And Davis Murray came in and started doing very well. I've seen football coaches make that decision before. Then another mishandle with James Cook later. It's like, huh,

maybe that's why I guess they haven't been playing them. But anytime he gets the ball, it seems like he does good stuff with it. Oh yeah. Except for whenever he's fumbling, I guess. So I feel like they still have the pieces. Don Kincaid,

big drop. Gabe Davis, big drop. Josh Allen really has it. Stefan Diggs, still good player. If he wants to be there. I mean,

yeah, it doesn't seem like it. That's tough. Those types of tweets from Trayvon Diggs is still a good player if he wants to be there. Yeah, it doesn't seem like it. That's tough. Those tweets from Trayvon Diggs. How about him saying, yeah, buddy sucks since my brother got there. Don't forget. Man, 14 got to get up out of there, he said first. And then his next one was, let's not forget,

just as this conversation is happening. He didn't start going off until bro got there. I assume he muted both of these tweets. I assume he muted both of them and was like, let me just drop this out there. I'll just let them sort it out. I won't even have to see it. But that's obviously a conversation that's going to be had today

in the locker room. They got a lot of hard shit to deal with, it seems. How do they get right? Do they get right? Or is this just what the Bills are? Because that AFC is stacked. I mean, so they can get right. You mentioned they still have the talent.

You know, now you got a new OC. Joe Brady, I think, will be calling the plays now. He'll step in there as an OC. He was a former LSU guy, and he got a shot in Carolina and got let go from there. So he'll have an opportunity there. Middle of the season, you don't love that, obviously, especially when you come into the season expecting to be contenders.

But if you look at the AFC, I mean, it's a lot of four and five and five and five teams. So if you go on a three-game run here, which they can, you'll be in a great spot. We know how quick shit can change in the NFL. But, I mean, I don't know what's going on. As you said yesterday, something's going on in there. There's something going on.

I don't know what's going on. Something's going on. It seems like it. We're obviously not not in there but you can look at the football know these players it's not like a bunch of new guys just thrown together these guys have been around each other we've had a lot of guys from that team on the show um it's weird vibes coming out of buffalo it feels like something happened in a locker room just as somebody who has been in a couple locker rooms where something has happened and it's like, all right, it's a different place now all of a sudden. Because somebody either has beef with somebody over something.

Who knows? There's betrayal in there potentially. Who knows? There's something happening there, it feels like. And I think it's very obvious on a football field. But to your point about if you look at the AFC standings right now and the wild card, what that conversation is going to be, is like we talked before the season about how this is going to be the best Pac-12

that the Pac-12 has ever had. Okay, but the Pac-12 has to play each other all at the end of the season. So they're going to cannibalize each other. They're going to give each other a couple losses probably. Now Oregon might be able to keep going. We have no idea.

Washington, if they remain undefeated through this stretch, they have earned their way into the college football playoff. It's like the AFC is the same damn thing. AFC is not easy right now. Everybody's got a face to run. Now the AFC East is garbage at this exact moment.

Trash bag. But they could get better, all of them, because they all have the ability. Obviously, it's the NFL. But the AFC is going to beat the hell out of each other getting in there. So if the Beals can rattle off four or five wins, how are you doing?

Keep moving. That's why you also give credence to the thought that maybe the Texans. Yeah. The Texans could even go if they keep going. Here's the Beals' remaining schedule. Got the Jets. That's going to be a tough one. For sure.

And defense knows them. That's going to be tough. Eagles? Wow. Okay, that's easy, right? Chiefs? Simple. Absolutely easy.

Not good. Cowboys? No problem. No problem at all. Chargers? Fresh off a win? That would be nice. People forget. Fresh? What's that. No problem at all. Chargers, fresh off a win? That would be nice. People forget.

What's that? No. They got beat by the Lions. Oh, yeah. Heartbreaking loss. They had a win. Yeah. Then they didn't.

Then they lose it to the Lions. Patriots, terrible. Well, Patriots are 1-0 against the Bills this year, but yep. What? And then Dolphins, the only team in the AFC East that seemingly have a chance to win a Super Bowl with all pieces kind of humming right now. Great bye week. That's a tough, that is a tough run.

That is a very difficult run. But you're right. Maybe they get some things back in order. I just think behind the scenes, they got to figure it out more so than anything. And with a new OC, maybe that'll help. Well, we'll see. I mean, it certainly feels like Ken Dorsey

was kind of the sacrificial lamb here. It's just like, hey, the sky's falling. Everything's going to shit. Let's fire this guy and kind of just get a little heat off, you know, maybe McDermott's plate. But we talk about it. Like, every time someone from the Bills comes on the show, like, it's a big, like, it's all about the vibes.

You know, like, those guys that, like, going into the season, they're so tight-knit. Like, they all love being around each other. And when you watch them play, they're just so lackadaisical, devoid of energy. It seems like they don't give a shit out there. They turn it over and it's just kind of like, that's the expectation. Like, okay, well, here we go

again. It's going to be just like it was last week. If you are trying to find yourself right now to push to get into the playoffs, are you going to do it on the road in Kansas City and on the road in Philadelphia? And then even the Chargers who can score, you know, 40 points a game. Like, it just – I don't know.

You got to win the games you're supposed to win, and they haven't been. And now it's like they're getting into the meat of their schedule when everything is falling apart. Go ahead. No, to your point, like the turnovers, those kind of draw – those suck the energy out of you. If a guy goes up and just makes – Sertain goes up and makes an unbelievable interception, you draw off the field, you line of play.

That out-riding through was – like the cornerback had to stop and go back to pick it off. The fumble, ball just falls out of his hand. That's terrible. And then to end the game, I know Ken Dorsey got the ax today, but Sean McDermott's calling the defense. That's the head coach. You're the defensive coordinator,

and you're in situations with field goal rush or whoever. So you have four different field goal rush teams, right? You have your base one, and then you have a nickel field goal rush team. You have a dime field. So whatever defensive personnel package you have, you have that field goal rush team for a situation like that when it's NASCAR and you're rushing it.

Hey, everybody got to know where to line up. So when you have something like that happen with 12 people on the field, you essentially win the game and then you go back. Week 10. You cannot have that. Pre-season games you see that. You can't. Yeah.

Pre-season games you see it. Like guys rushing on the field, rushing off the field. It's normally a cluster in special teams in the pre-season. Like if you see teams that figure out, oh, they must have older guys at depth positions because normally it's rookies who don't know any better. They have no idea. They're playing special teams for the first time in their life. They forget they're on a team. They're on a team. They're not

on a team. There could be 14 guys on a field in preseason. Week 10, this is happening. That is insane to think about that it's taking place up there. Feels like a much different outfit in Buffalo than we had seen over the last couple years. Hopefully, they're able to figure it out.

Maybe they'll hire this guy. I know they gave Joe Brady the nod, and Joe Brady is one of the most perfectly faded white dudes. Oh, yeah. Since his time at LSU, he has had a very good fade. Still does. You see him on TV. He's talking.

He has his head turned sideways. You think that guy always has a fresh fade. Oh, yeah You see him on TV. He's talking. He has his head turned sideways. You think that guy always has a fresh fade. I'm happy about that. Tim Tebow, Justin Timberlake. There's some other stuff. Marty Smith. Marty Smith always has a great fade. I would say this dude since day

one, Joe Brady, has been one. Will Smith. There's some stuff coming out. Yeah. Smith just reminded me of it, but he always has a great fate too. Boy, what I heard about Will, he's- Talking murder. Killing him. Yeah.

Just getting killed. So I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know how this all plays out, but we need to hear from Will. You know what I mean? Yes, we do. We're hearing from a lot of people. We've been hearing from a lot of people. For a long time.

And Will has just been gone. I thought he was so good at social media. He always had the clever posts. He had to take a break. He made a mistake. He had to take a break. A fresh prince. I think you should say something somewhere.

Maybe not a red table. Maybe a different table. No table. Get murdered out here more ways than one. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen. What are y'all talking about? I think you do. You do. No clue. Get murdered out here more ways than one. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen. What's that talking about? I think you do. You do.

No clue. Yeah, I think you do. If you have the internet, which every human on earth now, thanks to Starlink, has, you heard. Okay? We all did. We don't love it. We just like know the truth. Yeah.

And if that's the case, happy for him. Happy he's happy. Absolutely. Joining us now is a guy who definitely doesn't know what we're talking about because he actually lives under a rock. But the rock that he lives under has football film running 24-7. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who's been called cheap before by other people, but not by us.

The incredibly handsome spokesperson for a shoulder thingy, ESPN quarterback pundit, Dan Orlovsky. Yeah, Dan Orlovsky. How's your shoulder doing? It's good. A few guys just talking about it. Google it. Actually, don't put that in your algo. Don't put it in the algo. It's too clean.

Your algo's too clean with everything you search for. Like, can I get white chicken breast? Give me some plain rice. No salt. Don't let salt get into the algorithm. Let me just live my life. How was Germany, dude? How was it was it was it awesome Germany was actually cool man I liked it it was a lot better for me experience wise than London I don't love going to London London just same I've never enjoyed the food I think it's

too short of a flight to like sleepover night in the red-eye but it was cool rich eyes it was amazing rich Rich was one of the best people in this business I've ever come across. McCourty was great. I think McCourty's a star. Obviously, the game was a standalone massive game, so doing that was really fun. Food was great. My wife came with me, so it was cool.

We thought you did a great job. Good job, Dan. Thanks, man. We echo the sentiment of everything you said about all the people there rich eisen though gets harshly judged i think he does great yeah i don't know why i enjoy waking up with him yeah like i enjoy rich eyes and we don't get to hear it because the show's on at the exact same time as ours so i'll see his clips afterwards he used to watch the show like every single day i'm a big rich fan i think he crushes

calling it i think he does well calling games. Different vibe. Yeah, I went to him at halftime, and I was just like, dude, you're awesome. You know how hard that is to step into a booth you've never been in, three-man booth, and big game, obviously, foreign city, so you don't have maybe everything that you're accustomed to when calling a game. And he was awesome, dude. And my wife loved him because he was just a tremendous storyteller and just like a sweet human being. So I thought he was he was awesome dude and my wife loved him because he was like just tremendous storyteller and and uh just like a sweet human being so i thought it was great he does need to

realize when country roads take me home to the place I belong. West Virginia. Yeah, Rich needs to just let it eat. Just let that. That's a banger all the time. 9.30 a.m., 7.30 p.m., midnight at every bar in Morgantown. That song bangs all the time. The fact that they love it over there so much taught me everything I need to know about Germany.

They have a good time. It was cool. They love football, huh? They love the football. Yeah. Love it. Frankfurt, as a city, people loved it. Obviously, Munich last year, they said they loved it as well. I think there's a conversation of maybe going to Spain or Rio or something.

We going to Barcelona? Ibiza. Yeah, I don't know exactly where in Spain, but I know those two are. But Germany loved it, man, loved it. Yeah, me too. Hopefully they go to Barcelona. I hope so. Then we'll be able to talk about Matthew over there with the people.

That'll be a blast. All right, let's talk about Ken Dorothy. He got fired this morning. Do you think he's the reason why the Bills stink? The Bills stink on offense right now for a multitude of reasons. So, like, I did this when I was younger in this industry. I came at people when it came to coaching. You got to fire them.

I'm never – I kind of made myself the promise I'm never going to kind of do that again. I actually had a conversation face-to-face, man-to-man recently with a coach. I did that too when I was younger and even reaffirmed it. So like the results are what the results are. It's a results-based business and business. And the, when you look at that offensive play, the things that are the problems, okay. Number one, it's wildly predictable. I know that people in Pittsburgh talk about their offense. It's wildly predictable. Like if I went to D but right now, we were talking about it last night. If I went to D but right now and said, Hey, the bills are in two by two on first and second down two guys on the right, two guys left. They are running either an RPO or they're running a short into Stefan digs.

That's problem. Number one, then when they get into bunch, they're running the spot rounds. That's it's wildly predictable. Um, number two, it is is it is the easiest offense in the nfl right now to like prepare for because they don't do anything it's so dependent and it reminds me of the bucks super bowl year they're so dependent on hey if everybody executes to a 10 on this play we'll be good now the downside is that's so unrealistic. Sometimes it happens. Like sometimes it works out great and they all executed. Josh is off the charts and stuff and it looks great. No, but on bank on that on Madden,

I was told everybody that's a 98 is a 98 all the time. Every single day. That's right. That's what I was told on Madden. Dan, what are you talking about? Yeah. They only run like two run plays.

They pulled the tackle and run tackle trap or tackle counter, whatever you want to call it. They build no other pass game, none of their pass game into Stephon Diggs. I watched the Rams do it with Cooper. I watched the Bengals do it with Jamar Chase. I watched the Vikings do it with Justin Jefferson. Like, hey, we are calling these plays to get these guys the ball in multiple different ways.

They don't do it. So it's very much so schematically a broken offense. Their fourth and one call I hated last night, motioning just to say we moved the guy. So everyone's got to do better. Turnovers, all that, no doubt. But it's broken schematically. I've said this forever. Go under center and run more play action with motion. They do it, they're good. They just don't do it more than three or four times a game. so there's a lot of reasons the results are what the results are yeah and you mentioned about stefan digs getting a ball and i immediately i almost interrupt you because that's what i do but like it's uh it's not great but i do it but the the davante adams situation with

the raiders literally just the other day it was like yeah antonio pierce came out and was like yeah we're gonna try to get the ball to Devontae Adams. Like that's what we're going to do. It's like why wouldn't you do that, Stephon Diggs, especially with you know who Stephon Diggs is. Like Stephon Diggs is a guy that if he gets the ball and is in the game, he's going to be the best guy on the field. If not, there's a chance he's going to be like,

why the hell are you paying me what you're paying me, and why am I even here if you're not going to do it? And those are valid questions. Now the way he goes about it, I think it's standard wide receiver stuff, but some people see it a different way. It's like, I would die to have Stephon Diggs on the Colts. And if Shane Steichen had Stephon Diggs on the Colts, those first three plays are bubble, bubble, maybe a slant.

Let's get the ball into this guy's hand so he knows that he's a part of it. It's like, why didn't Dorsey do that? Why didn't McDermott tell him we need to do that you know like that's a that's a whole nother question about how we even got to this point it's it's i have no idea i can't like i remember talking about this weeks ago when it came to cd lamb and the cowboys it was like if you're not gonna get him the ball and throw it to him then just trade him and i feel that way in relation to stefan digs and buffalo now and people throw out these numbers like targets and all that. Guys, watch the games.

You can watch the game and know that they are not calling plays with the specific point of getting that person to football. And I do want to give some love to Sertan last night. Like, he was really good. But that's why it goes into another level for me, Pat. It's not only that they're not trying to get him the ball. It's when they throw him the ball, he's literally running a five-yard in route. The old school

Reggie Wayne stuff. We can't get him in a more diversified role or a more diversified route tree. Again, there are so many things schematically broken about their offense that the results kind of lend itself

to sitting there going, I understand why. I look at that team and I see like much different mana. Yeah. You know? Mana. Opposite. Yeah, it's not a lot of mana. No.

Not a lot of mana. You know, last year they had a lot of mana, it felt like. Yeah. Now they went through a lot. So obviously that's going to bring a team together. But they were like known for being a team that was fun to watch they're having fun world blast and it's hard to do that whenever you're losing or whatever but are you happy because you win or do you win because you're happy you know like i think that that team appears to have some

shit going on behind the scenes too you know it's like does ken dorsey getting out of there does it fix that type of stuff as well like do you think this has a real effect on them bouncing back and making the most of this season, especially in an AFC where it's very gettable because how middle heavy it is? Like, do you think this change helps them and do they go on a run? If they play way freer, you know, like, and that's always a fine line. They have to walk in. Certainly Josh, like Josh is one of those players. Like I see see I see stuff

on the internet right now where it says what Josh Allen's mechanics have fallen off I disagree with that respectfully I don't see that I think all the things that are necessary I put on a tape respectfully yeah I think all the things that are necessary to throw it well Josh is doing that um but I do I don't think that watching this tape is a surprise to Sean McDermott in Buffalo. I think that it was very obvious what they were schematically. So why had Ken Dorsey kept his job for that long? My guess, players liked him. My guess, a guy like Josh Allen liked him.

That's an assumption by me. So now it goes to Joe Brady, and it's like, well, can Joe Brady free them up a little bit more? Can Joe Brady maybe get them into a little bit more empty, something that I think that they should have been utilizing more as long as Josh plays with his hots? Will Joe Brady put them under center a little more? So if he gets them to that place where,

I'm not saying you're reinventing the wheel schematically, but you've got to lean into things that you're good at and get away from the stuff that you stink at. It could help their offense. Obviously, injuries are a part of it. Turnovers are a part of it. But I think they're far too talented to play the way that they did over the last three or four weeks.

Were you interviewed by McDermott last night about potentially becoming the offense coordinator? Ooh. I saw that tweet from someone. No, I wasn't, man. I was just talking about the way you were talking there. It sounds like you were going to be an offense coordinator at some point. That's going to happen, right? We all assume?

I would hope so. I mean, it's certainly something that's on my mind at some point one day, but my kids are too young. Oh, so we got to wait until the kids get a little bit older so you can be living on a couch for six months? Yeah. You guys know what that job is like. But I love what I do now.

What, do you OC from the sideline or up in the booth? Yeah. What do you think about that? That's a good question because Matt America. It depends on who the quarterback coach is. If the quarterback coach is someone that you trust can have those face-to-face conversations with the guy on the sideline, then you're good to go up. But if you don't have that guy, you've got

to stay down. Oh, I didn't know that was the reasoning because that makes a lot of sense now. You don't think Matt America? You've got to have the person who knows what they're talking about who's been in the fire, I feel. You've got to have a person who knows what it's like looking at the picture. All right. What did Joe Brady

do? I wonder. We will find out. Butler has a question for you he was in the booth too yeah they didn't give a chance to go certainly he was certainly and i like him i like him grew up in miami fowl yeah mccarolina i like him but um so what obviously we're talking about ken dorsey and buffalo why is it so hard and why is it such a a huge difference with offenses like uh detroit with ben johnson obviously miami mike daniel kyle, Kyle Shanahan, even what they're doing in Houston. I feel like a lot of those quarterbacks, you talk about Josh Allen, obviously we know he can be special, but I feel like a lot of times he doesn't have answers pre-snap.

Obviously emptying those things, I feel like it gives you answers. But why is it such a difference between those type of offenses and then an offense like we've seen in Buffalo for a couple of years now? Philly. Yeah. Number one, the offenses that you name all come from the Shanahan tree. Ben Johnson, Mike McDaniel, Slowick in Houston. They're all from that tree. OK, so like that tree and that offense is fundamentally built on the different ways that we can, one, attack a defense, and then, two, create advantages for our guys, whether it's a leverage advantage, whether it's an angles advantage,

whether it's a numbers advantage. When I watch Buffalo's offense, there is no advantage that gets taken, and that's kind of my point. D-butt is they're so dependent on the execution. And I've often have felt that that's a crux. It's, well, we have to execute better. Everyone who's been around football knows execution matters. Our job, I would say my job as a coach, I would say,

is make your execution easier. So those offenses, Ben Johnson makes an amon ross st brown's job his execution wise it's easier jared golf's execution is easier um a guy like nico collins in houston the execution of stuff is easier and then those guys execute that at a high level and that's it now you're seeing that elephant elevation and i think in Buffalo, it's, well, Josh is so good and Steph is so good and Kincaid or Dawson Knox is so good that those guys can just execute people over the course of four quarters. Josh is not that as a player, though.

Like that's – styles matter for quarterbacks. Joe Burrow is an – he's an executor. CJ Stroud is an execution guy. CJ Stroud is an execution guy. Jared Goff is an execution guy. Josh is a creator. He's a, he's a, like a freelance guy. So he has to be in an offense that promotes that. And they don't have that in Buffalo. And there's, there's too much of, Hey, the defense knows our play, and it's not a great play, but you're so good that go make something happen. Yeah, need killers.

That's right. That's what it just sounded like. Execution. People that are executing people. Cutting heads off. Yeah, execution. Boom, bang, pow. Need it to happen. Need you to execute everything, everybody.

Right. That's what we need in our quarterback. Josh Allen does look... Look at the example, Pat. I don't want to cut you off, but the fourth and two for the Lions the other day. It's not all that different than the play that the Bills ran on fourth and one.

Now, fourth and two, fourth and one do matter, but Jared is obsessed with execution. This is the most detail centric offense in football, the Detroit lions. It's the most detailed obsessed offense in the whole NFL. Everybody, not just the quarterback,

everyone, the shallow cross gets to the ghost tight end, which is where the opposite side and would be Laporta never looks back. He never looked back at Jared golf until he gets there. Jared throws it on the right shoulder. It's only since that's, that's not who Buffalo identity is on offense. That's who Detroit is.

But with Josh Allen, you're saying him being a creator, him being special, wouldn't that be – I feel like that's a part of the issue, that he does it too much. Don't you want to kind of rein that in and make him more of that execution? Because all those guys you mentioned, you know, they execute the offense to a tee, and then, you know, the four or five plays when they got to be special make a wild throw they do it and i feel like it's almost flipped with josh it's like hey 25 plays you're going to be special

and then these five plays hey execute and lock in it's harder to do that so don't you kind of think is they should flip it if you if you're you know calling plays for him or designing it for him great question but i don't think that's on fourth and one, D-Button. I think that's on a first down call. On fourth and one, you would very rarely, if ever, go with a designed quarterback run or a zone read with a Jared Goff because that's not who he is. Correct.

Absolutely can do that with Josh Allen, but I don't think on fourth and one we sit there and go, well, this quarter, that's just not who he is personality wise and not who he is play style wise i've always wondered this about buffalo it is awesome one of those they're like look on time yeah that offense looks good like every time it happens it's like wow yeah it's like a celebration almost that it takes place yeah sorry about it yeah and and no but i've always wondered because josh gets himself off the track at times, you know, like just because, again, that's his play style.

I've always wondered, like why, and they might, but it doesn't feel that way. Like they don't have a section on their play sheet where it's like, get Josh back under control, please. Like what are the five or six plays that they can go to that just get him back in alignment and under control and right now because then you do want to promote that freedom and playmaking yeah i think joe bready hopefully will be able to address it if not him then who this next offseason one of the bills like

look like going forward we show we're big fans of the bills yeah bills are great for the nfl the last couple years i hope they continue to turn now let's move on to different subjects because the boys are so pumped to talk to the Dan Orlovsky. Ty Schmidt has one for you. Yeah, Dan, 10 weeks in, what is your opinion on Jordan Love in terms of whether or not he is the guy moving

forward? Early on in the season, he looked pretty damn good, but then it seems like he's kind of just got worse every week. He's not protecting the ball at all. I don't know if that's more a product of play calling or that's him, but then it's harder too when you look in the same division and a guy like Josh Dobbs, who has been a career journeyman, just gets in there and kind of picks things up right away,

is playing well and has been winning. So I don't know. Is it more on Jordan Love or is it more on kind of LeFleur not putting him in positions to be successful because with KOC and Dobbs it looks like you know I mean the sky is falling when Kirk gets hurt but then all of a sudden he comes in and we're talking about them going to the playoffs still yeah I think what Dobbs and Kevin O'Connell done in Minnesota is unbelievable O'Connell I think Josh's ability to time his feet in that offense is big so So Jordan Love, there are moments when he makes great throws.

The ball down to Musgrave, middle of the field, obviously the late one on the deep crosser. There's moments when he makes great throws. There's not enough good throws. And the good throws are sometimes like the layups that are just part of that offense, the layups that are just part of that offense, the layups that Matt Loflor calls into the game plan or into the game, and they're there.

And sometimes they become completions, but instead of it being like a 12- or 15-yard game, it's like a 5- five or six yard game because the ball placement forces the guy to adjust his body to make a catch or it's a more difficult catch. And you sit there and go, it's a completion, but it's not a good throw. And so there are moments of great throws and hear me out when I say this, I think one, the past pro struggles have thrown the timing off of their past game. And so it feels like they're with Jordan, it's get the ball out now or move around in the pocket and try to create something. And that's a bad place to be for a guy who's playing for the first time.

It reminds me a little bit like I'm not making this lateral comparison. It reminds me a little bit like Lamar's first year starting as a passer where some of like the really easy throws he didn't make and the way that you want them to like hey man it's it's a it's a spot route and if you just throw the ball on the chest of the guy in the inside shoulder he's going to get eight yards but you throw it low and away and he gets three and I think that's where Jordan's got to grow a lot in the next six weeks is make those completions that are there still make really good throws. I did not expect you to say six weeks there.

I thought you were going to say like the next year or offseason and everything like that because you heard the same thing we heard about Goody saying maybe he's not the guy for the future. But really it's his first year playing. So, I mean, we're going to have a full conversation about Jordan Love getting dropped into a nightmare situation behind the scenes, being forced to go in behind a guy who's a four-time NFL MVP, Mount Rushmore quarterback of all time, with him getting forced out for you.

And then if you have one year, do we even know what LaFleur – I mean, that's going to be tough. And then Josh Dobbs just goes and goes bananas. I love that you guys are watching that in the same division he's just special huh Josh Dobbs just super special guy obviously his brain is is a big part of the conversation I think the most impressive thing with all this is and D-Butt to your point like O'Connell comes from the Shanahan tree right and the like this crosser is a perfect example of it he has to throw that crosser on one hitch meaning top of his drop gather his feet in this offense like it's huge to say hey you have to play on time and you're free

your feet tell you where and when to throw the football that's just part of this offense it's ingrained in the foundation it's really hard to get control of that. He's absolutely done that. And then his athleticism and his ability. There's five or six clips, man, where you sit there and go, I've watched guys struggle with this for two or three years in this offense, like one to two, and he's just done an awesome job of getting that under control.

He's awesome, dude dude they call him the pastronaut too what a name yeah beast that's a great nickname yeah a super smart dude and passing an astronaut i guess passionate passionate i love it nailed it yeah yeah you put it hey you see you see what they're saying that's actually put that together so astronauts put that one together actually who do you think thought of that nickname? NASA. It was NASA. NASA's still around? Dan. Dan-o. I understand that we

were going on other people's spaceships to space, but we still got astronauts, Dan. I thought NASA was defunded or something. Listen, potentially money was allocated other places, you know, but they're still

down there floating around in zero gravity. Absolutely. They're still going to another country to go up into the space station so they can do experiments about what the next frontier is and everything like that. We still got America. Purdue, right here in Indiana. You know what they create? Astronauts.

So maybe, watch what you're saying. Watch what you're saying. I would tread lightly if I were you, my friend. Yeah, dangerous line here. Do you think we're ever going to have like an interstellar with McConaughey? Yeah. Brother. Already happened.

I can't wait to meet one of these things. I don't know. I don't know when. I don't know how. But I hope I'm one of the people that somehow weasels my way in to be, how's it going there, thing? I cannot wait. You know Josh Dobbs doesn't believe in aliens?

Uh-oh. Even though he's an astronaut? He's told to say that. That's one of the rules. That's one of the rules. He's part of it. That's how we know he's already all the way in. Don't be an idiot.

Yeah, you're so dumb, Dan. I mean, Dan, you believe in aliens, right? Of course. I do not. Dan. Dan! Dan! Now is not the time, but you need to reconsider.

Just do one of these. One night, do this. Not today because we can see behind you about how cloudy it is. Just do this one and go, holy shit, it's so big up there. Just do that one time. Just try to get a grasp of just how big it is. All those lights

are suns, Dan. I mean, from the back, they just said, we don't know if Dobbs is an alien or not. He shouldn't be doing what he's doing at all. But I'm pumped about it. Hey, Josh Dobbs, if you are one of our aliens, like Elon Musk, who is certainly one, he just builds them and goes up there.

He built that and we just accept it. Oh, that's an alien no that's elon i'm not buying it now i do think that the variance of intelligence on the planet makes no sense to me like how some people have created like the internet or yeah like planes but um we have some people are super dumb so i agree with that but i don't think aliens are real. Okay. All right. Big old universe. What's that? This big old universe. You think it's just us out here?

They're pretty arrogant of you. They're analytics. Oh, my God. So arrogant, Dan. We're the only ones. We're the only. We. You just talked about those super dumb ones.

We being some. You think we're the only things here? That's a wild thing to think. I think by the time we die, we know. I think we find out. It's getting hot in the streets out there. It's getting hot. Do you know when you the only things here? That's a wild thing to think. I think by the time we die, we know. I think we find out. It's getting hot in the streets out there. Do you know when you're going to die? So, I used to say the good die young, and I'm fucked.

No, you didn't. No, you didn't. No, I didn't. You didn't. I'm not saying anything. You love fun. Good fun. Good fun.

I'm fun. I'm fun, you know? So, I'm trying to be a good human. So, I always assumed I was fun. I'm fun. I'm fun, you know? So I'm trying to be a good human. So I always assumed I was good. With the way I was living, I didn't think I was making it to 30, to be honest with you. But now I'm 36. I mean, I'm going to live forever now. Now I'm trying to get frozen.

Now, you know, whenever I'm on my deathbed. So I can, boom, I'm back in 2150. You and Walt Disney, Ted Williams? Yep. Bingo. That's what I'm saying. I've heard about it. Also, maybe send me to Pandora like they did

with Jacob Salt. Send me to Pandora. Put me in an avatar. It's like eight years. Let's get back to football. And the aliens, by the way, never going to be able to beat us in football. So we need to remember that. No matter how big, scary, or freaks they are, they ain't going to be able to run Oklahoma drills. They ain't going to

be able to run powers in ISOs. So when they come to this rock floating through space, we're going to be able to run Oklahoma drills. No. They ain't going to be able to run powers in ISOs. So when they come to this rock floating through space, we're going to put them in pads and we'll let them know who we are. Okay? Let's just always remember that. Boom. That's what we have in our back pocket. Boom.

So you guys can have all the science conversations you want to have. Let us sports folks let you know we got your back. When we need to alpha these things, we'll put some pads on them. That's right. And then we'll find out who's what in the galaxy. Well said. Now back to football. Connor has a question for you.

They're tall and lanky, too. We got one being there. So if they want to play basketball. We're swatting their shit. Guess what? We got one. Yeah, you're damn right. Dan, my question has to do with the worst football team in the country right now, the league.

Some would say country. Kirk on Thursdays at times. First, too, you don't believe in aliens because there's no proof. I'm not going to get into the whole religion thing here, but just something to think about. That guy went to Catholic school next year. I thought we were doing

football. You're a bad guy. Back to football. I just wanted to throw a couple things in there just to get my thoughts out. Matt Jones isn't good right now, Dan. And saying that he's not good right now is a massive understatement. I saw you post something about how the mechanics on that interception, which some are coining worse than the butt fumble play, that interception in the red zone in Germany,

that he's not playing like he had his rookie year with McDaniels. What the hell is going on? Kind of safe to say that his time in New England is done because of the quarterbacks that could be coming out and the top pick. Just kind of explain to me what he's seeing on this play because I'm pretty sure there's about 500 million people on the planet that could have thrown that ball maybe a little better than Mac Jones here. This is one of the worst

misses of his career. This ball to Gesicki, it's the right read. It's just missed probably a minimum of 10 feet. See how Connor is fading away? His feet are parallel to Lana's scrimmage and he's fading backwards.

He looks like a wuss, Dan. That's been the story. Now, this has gone on all year. I feel like I've pointed this out very much so often about Mac.

There's people who can and cannot do this. There are guys who are so athletic and so physically talented, Josh Allen being one, Lamar, Patrick. Dobbs. Kenny. That are capable of mechanically maybe not being ideal and still making really big-time throws. Mack is not that person.

And so there's been way too he had he had an example um two weeks ago at home with remondra stevenson on a double move that if he just steps into the throw it's a touchdown he fades away so now the question is well why is he fading away so much okay so he's fading away so much two parts one the offensive line is awful i would tell you i think new england have aq answer this i think their offensive line is one of the worst in the nfl in the last like three seasons okay so that there is a byproduct of that number two it seems that this is not something that he has emphasized like this is something that you can absolutely get better at, improve on, control. And it's not happening in New England.

So that's what happens on the interception. Why is it all happening? Their roster is very talent depleted. And I think it's fair to say I'm a Mac guy. I still think that he could be a good player in the NFL. I don't know, great, good player, starter in the NFL. But it's fair to say, like, if you're New England, it's a complete rebuild.

It's a complete, total rebuild. Do you want to do that with Bill Belichick? And do you want to do that with Mac Jones? Those are the two questions they have to answer. That's a huge rebuild. You get rid of Bill Belichick. Now, Diana Rossini reported this weekend that people around the building are assuming

or preparing for a mutual parting of ways between Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots. He will go coach somewhere else if that is the case. Will he be the GM as well? We assume, but who knows? That would be bananas. That would be a colossal move in the NFL news cycle. I've heard that. I've heard more and more of that over the past week.

I'm not a reporter, all that stuff, but I have heard that. You're a journalist. Yeah, I have heard that that's going to be the case, and it's kind of who knows the likelihood of it, but I've heard that that's going to happen, and I've heard the location is already kind of determined as well. Where he's going? LA?

Chargers. I'm not giving... I just... I've heard that. Who'd you hear from? I've heard that. People I know, they're just like friends at the soccer game. You saw your daughter on Westport another undefeated year.

Congratulations. Good job, Don. The nine new girls. No, I mean, it's people who know what they're talking about. Hmm. Shafty? Bill? Where's he going?

Did you talk to Bill? Did they tell you what Bill was doing outside of the house? In the ring camera? Did you see what that was? Because he's a dog, dude. Yeah. He is absolutely yoked for a seven-year-old. Yeah.

He's got that barrel chest, too. He walked out. Do you think he would go on game day weekly and take his shirt off for everyone? I'm not sick of that, but that is not my... What am I supposed to say? They won't stop. Yeah. We can't do a show.

Chanton. Last week, they didn't do it, though. I would like to let Jay in. You look great. You look great. You look great. Thanks. I'm on some science and some hard work.

I'm having a good time right now. I'm moving a lot of weight, too. I feel very explosive. Are you pressing weights? Moving weights. Yeah. Squat rack? you know i'm having a i'm having a good time right now i'm moving a lot of weight too i feel very explosive you're pressing weights moving weights yeah squat rack no no no no not putting a bar on my back ever again nope no i saw you hit the lunges yesterday lunges new addition i heard that's like a real super cheat code uh you know cory gregory's been pitching that for a while so i started doing them boy that one's tough i was supposed to not get sore. That's what I was told. That's what I was told.

You won't get sore anymore, pretty much. I did these lunges last week. Buddy, couldn't get off the shitter. It was. It was tough. My legs obviously get... So yeah, I'm getting in shape.

Not as much as you, though. You're in great shape. You're always in good shape, though, it feels like. Yeah, I don't have any muscles, so it doesn't matter. You have good shoulders, though. Yeah, good small muscles.

I get so many people come up to me about that. They come up to me like hey, can I ask you something? I'm like, yeah, what's up? And I think they're gonna ask me something about like football or working at ESPN They're like that shoulder thing. Does it actually work? Yeah, go on Yeah, it works. You're the new guy that wore the blue polo all the time Billy Mays Danny Mays rest in peace Billy is his name is mission. Danny might be his kid that is now Billy. He's Danny Mays. Yeah, rest in peace, Billy Mays.

What if that's you? ShamWow, the shoulder thing. Maybe even VapooRiser. Yep. That could be your thing. You could be the new spokesperson guy. Like Flex, like the Flex tape? Flex seal.

Flex seal, boom. On one of those boats. Go the boat out of it. what a legend mike lindell with the uh my pillow could do that go that route too dan you yeah i feel like i'm just physically a better presentation hopefully you know so i don't know if i'm there yet in life um people were saying that the backdrop was fake i I don't think that's real. Clouds are moving. Right behind you, clouds are moving. It's just a parking lot.

Where are you, up in Bristol? Yeah, up at Bristol. I came up. Rabel's up here. Paul Rabel's up here. They're announcing the home cities for all the PLL teams. So I'm going to hop on. Whoops.

You're going to hop on? What are you going to do? Just kind of be there and let Paul do his thing. But I came up a little early. You need to get as many Notre Dame boys on the squad that you're cheering for as you can. Uh-huh. Those Cavanaughs. I got a son who wants to go to Notre Dame to play lacrosse.

It's going to be tough. Those boys, those lads are really good with the twine. Yeah, you better hit the wall, dude. Yeah, you better tell them to get to work. Uh-huh. You know, because whenever when he's golden dumbs, when he's gold dumbs, right here. Boom. Boom. When he's gold dumbs, hit

the field. There's a sense of pride, fear, and a championship quality of lacrosse. Hell yeah. That is a gorgeous helmet. That is a gorgeous helmet. Hey, out of the five on camera right now, if you had to rate the golf swings five to one, where are they? Golf swings?

What? Yeah, yeah, because I've seen social media. So where are they? So Tone is a baseball player swinging a golf club, but he still thinks it's a bat. Like not even attempting to change at all. You know how some baseball players try to change their swing to golf and they like utilize the benefits

of baseball to help them with golf? Tone says, uh-uh. I'm still Tone does a full baseball swing with the golf club. So I think he is at five. I'll say con man is fourth. I'm done with golf. His brother's a scratch

golfer though. Brother's a scratch golfer. Did his brother get all the athleticism in the family? Actually, he did. He's good at everything. It's the worst. But did he tackle A.J. Dillon? Yeah, he doesn't have a great jumper. Bingo.

Nope, nope. The thing about Toxic Table, both of them lefties, so it's certainly something. I'll put Ty. I'll put myself probably at third, then Ty, then D-Butt with Butler Birdies at number one. Golf yesterday. Because he's working.

D-Butt's swing looks good. I did golf yesterday. Hey, fall golf? That's beautiful. Can't beat it. Ten out of ten. The best. Can't beat it.

First experience. Perfect weather. Fall football, you could probably beat it, but yep, chirp. Golf sucks. Hey, you're having a great Orlovsky season. If I make us into that thing, you're going to give some money away? How much? Hold on. How much? Ten people, $500.

There's no chance. A little higher. It's a hockey ball. It's a lacrosse stick. Can't do it. Man, I should have whipped that thing. All right, Dan. Have a great day, pal. We appreciate your time. Later, fellas. Good to be with you. Hell yeah. That was sick. Much mono. Hell Later, fellas. Good to be with you. Hell yeah. That was sick. Much mono.

Hell yeah, dude. From Columbus, Ohio. Yesterday, he was a one-eye, one-eye, one-eye man. He's also a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, a COVID survivor, a man who eats adversity for breakfast, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, a COVID survivor, a man who eats adversity for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, and it comes into form a grilled chicken with no flavor.

Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. I cannot wait to see what he's going to be. Yeah, so pumped. A.J. Hawk. Yeah! So cool. So cool, dude.

Wow. You look so cool right now. Yep, yep. Got the patch off, fellas, so we're on the mend. What does your eye look like? Come on. What does your eye look like? Actually, I think it looks okay.

Oh, not bad. It's not bad at all. It just gets real weird and runny and stuff, and the lights obviously are awesome. Bro, you kind of go a little low. It's sitting a little low there probably to protect it, but you look a lot better than I could have imagined. Two days after a third of a cornea getting ripped out by a guy named Axel.

Yeah, it's good. I got to go back tomorrow morning to make sure. But, yeah, he said at least it's starting to heal a little bit. What, are they pumping stem cells in there? I mean, that's healing quick. That's healing real quick. I got some gel. I got some goopy gel that's stuck in there right now.

So, yeah, we're coming today. What are you saying? Is it Canadian? What are you saying? Some goo for his eye. Let's talk about the game last night before our distinguished guest joins us. Buffalo Beals got some problems, dude. Now, granted, game-winning field goal could have won that game.

What are we talking today if they end up winning that game? If they don't have 12 people on the field for that last field goal, what are we saying about the Buffalo Bills? You squeak, they don't play their best ball, but they still win a game on primetime on Monday night in November. Yada, yada, yada. That's convo. Instead, it's this Bills team is problematic because

they had 12 people on the field for a game-winning field goal in Week 10 of the actual NFL season, not the preseason. Let alone how it looks on the offense and defense. Obviously, Russell Wilson looked like old Russell Wilson. So congrats to the Denver Broncos on getting a massive win. And for Sean Payton and Russ turning it around.

Also, Vance Joseph turning it around from earlier in the year when they let Miami hang 70 on them. But the story of the day is Buffalo Bills fired their offensive coordinator this morning. What does the future look like for them? And are they dead, AJ? Are they dead? Is that the comment? Yeah. Well, when I hear that they fired their offensive coordinator, we saw how that game ended. If for some reason they didn't have 12 men on the field

and they win that game, are they still firing Ken Dorsey last night? No way. Okay. So, like, I mean, I don't know what the problem is i obviously have no idea what the answers may be but yeah it just seems like that's what's so funny about games you know that pat like one thing here they're the tiniest little thing and everybody's life is different on both sides wins cover up all your warts i mean it happens literally everywhere and then when you lose people are like i've been waiting to say this okay so even if you go on

a six seven game win streak and it's ugly ugly ugly for instance pittsburgh steelers it's just like this hasn't been good but we win this hasn't been good but we win this guy has been problems but we win so whenever you don't say it and then a loss comes and it's like oh yeah i remember three weeks ago we were saying this guy was a problem he still is by the way in the loss it's like it almost just builds up the explosion even more so them losing on prime time obviously not their first first loss of the season but they're the by age they're the oldest team in the nfl if the hembo stat that i got this morning was right 27.6 years of age is the average age for that team oldest in the nfl it's like they got

money in a lot of places on that team and they're still not able to go. It's like, that's not great. And if you're Beals Mafia, you got to be so confused. We're all very confused by this whole thing developing. Yeah, it makes no sense. This entire little era of the Bills after that Chiefs loss with 13 seconds left, that's what a lot of people are going back to.

Especially with all the drama in the offseason with Leslie Frazier. But Lombardi talks about it all the time. You have to see what the team shows you. And the Bills do this every week. It feels like there hasn't been one game, maybe the Dolphins game, you could point to as the game that they were unbelievable because even the Raiders win early in the season when they blow them out. McDaniels, Jimmy G, who knows?

But it's brutal in Buffalo. Yeah, it's the post-Tom Brady era for the Patriots as well. And Bill Belichick might be gone, so the Buffalo Bills fans saw a lot of opportunity. Yeah. They saw a lot of opportunity in that AFC East. Speaking of, joining us now is a quarterback in the AFC East. He's a man who is a four-time NFL MVP. Hell yeah.

He's a man that's currently defeating an Achilles surgery faster than any human in the history of Achilles surgeries. He's slinging the pigskin every week, but this week, what's up? Is everything okay? Ladies and gentlemen, host of every single Tuesday's Second Hour for the last four years, ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers.

Standing Brotherhood. Okay. Appreciate that. Appreciate that. Solidarity, guys. Solidarity. standing brotherhood okay appreciate that appreciate that solidarity guys solidarity did you just have one of those laying around or what no we just uh fashioned this together just now just for you buddy hey yeah have you heard about hey did you uh could you have imagined that axel would take a third of his corny out of his eye on a random sunday aaron uh as as Uncle Aaron over there in the Hawk House? Listen, injuries that happen at the house, there's always some mystery, some shrouds of mystery around them. So I guess we'd have to take AJ's word for it on this one.

But there could be some, it could be a bedroom injury. That's all I'm saying. Oh! Didn't even around all i know is that you know all i know is that him and laura have you know four you say ten but i believe four maybe could be more beautiful children and the spark is still very strong and you never know what the actual cause of his injury could be blaming on the kid seems like a real low-hanging fruit wow i didn't think about that aaron jeez louise that means laura's in on blaming axel yeah that's what that would mean right no let's not bring her let's not bring her into it well she can't help it that's what that would mean, right? No, let's not bring her into it. She can't help it.

That's how that works, right? If she's the dominant human in the bedroom, she can't help it. Yeah, it's not her fault. It's not her fault. Chopper. Alright, let's move along. Good start. Hot start.

Great start. One of the greatest starts of all time. He's recovering from an eye. You're standing in solidarity with him. To return the favor, AJ will also wear those ridiculously large shoes that you're wearing for your Achilles because you two, you know, one eye, one good Achilles. Let's talk about where you're at, what you're talking about to Melissa Stark. Melissa Stark. Okay.

Mid-December was the report during Sunday Night Football. You didn't throw on Sunday because you just weren't feeling it for some reason. Is that the plan? And why didn't you throw? Because those videos, I think, were not only us, but Jets fans are like, yes, feed us more of those. With Devontae on the other side, too, I thought there was a chance maybe Devontae would happen upon the other end of that why didn't you throw do we have a setback where

do we sit in mid-December the goal sorry a lot there go with it however you want a lot of questions there yeah just roll if I hadn't seen Devontae the night before then I probably would have gone out there and maybe seen him and at least thrown him a couple of balls. But Sunday was my off day starting my rehab process. And that's obviously shifted a little bit. So it didn't last week, Sunday, we had a Monday night game. So I was off Sunday. I flew red eye. So Monday, being able to move around,

so that was more in the rehab uh mindset where i'm not just stationary all day and uh the previous weeks i've used kind of my flying day as my my off day so this last week saturday um i got a great uh long session of rehab and then flew flew up to vegas had dinner with davante um walked around a little bit as was noted um a couple fan interactions and then sunday was a complete off day so on the off days i really want to get myself completely off like obviously i'm still walking and facing the sidelines but i need at least one day off every single week so that was that was planned there and no setbacks as far as what I talked to Melissa Stark about, I never said anything definitive. She talked about having a conversation with my amazing doctor.

There we go. There we go. She talked to my doctor about if it would be insane to try and come back in three months. if it would be insane to try and come back in, uh, you know, three months. And he responded about, you know,

the fact that when you bring together specific type of surgery with a specific patient with, uh, the specific amount of, uh, stubbornness and desire to get back on the field, then, and obviously playing quarterback,

then there's a possibility, but, um, nothing's changed as far as my timeline. We've got to be in the mix, and I've got to be healthy, and I definitely still want to come back. That's awesome. Go ahead, AJ.

So you're telling us that there's a chance. When will that be, though? Can you give us a date? Give us a game. What the hell is that? What? What are you drinking? You had all that time, You had all that time.

And that's the question you came up with. Oh, no. It's journalism. That I could give you a specific date. That's right. Yeah. Okay. Are you walking on a beach yet?

Do you have the dorsiflexion that you talk about that you need? Can you get on your toes? Yeah. I'm still doing a lot of different modalities. Age. A lot of modalities every single day. I know you love that. But I haven't...

How heavy is that bag right there? For real. I think that matters. Is the tequila in that bag? 15, 20 ounces worth of stuff in that bag? How heavy is the bag? Listen, there's zero tequila in there. There were zero bongs in there. Wow. Oh. And I don't know what i was i got a lot i'm sidetracked now what day aj wants to know what day you you you absolutely just question his

journalism talents yeah i think is what you did originally but there is no set date is that accurate that's an accurate uh no there's no set date. I mean, it could change. If I have a great week, you know, this week and next week, that could be accelerated. If we are not in it in three or four weeks, that could, you know, that could take it a different way. But I expect us to be in it, and I expect to come back. So that's about all I can tell you at this point. Aaron, how bad does this suck? This sucks. This sucks.

Only looking at it one eye right now with tape covering this one. I couldn't even imagine what our big barbarian jawline friend is experiencing over there. Have we seen what it looks like yet? I haven't been watching the first time I've ever seen it yet. It doesn't look that bad right now. It doesn't look that bad. Does it look like Jack Black? No, it's not that bad.

It's just dead. I can't just open it really. Oh, my God. It's all right. It's not that red. It was super red before I got this gel in there, so we're almost 100% probably. You look like Jack Black in Shallow Howl,

same body type and same eyes. The way he puts the goop in his eyes. Good guy. I appreciate that. Jack Black is a great actor. In that movie, too. Great guy. Ends up being a great guy.

Not being shallow, yeah shout out tony robbins in that movie as well yeah shout out yep that guy's the fake clapper oh yeah great voice yes great voice fake clapper he motivates the hell out of people speaking of motivating the hell out of people you know people are saying because you're coming back so quick that you actually don't have a torn achilles have you heard heard? That's become an actual talking point, that you didn't actually tear your Achilles. Like, for instance, Megan Rapinoe. Thank you.

Yeah, it sucks for us. I'm happy you decided. Yeah, I don't like that. Yeah, at all. It was terrible. I was getting busy. I was getting, like, sick to my stomach not being able to see out of one eye.

Megan Rapinoe, though, after her last game, she tore her Achilles, I think, six minutes in or whatever to her final game. It was a walk-off that she certainly could never have prayed for. The whole entire combo, though, she said, I'm calling Aaron Rodgers because I would like to get this thing handled quickly. I would like the recovery to happen quickly. It's happening so fast the way you're doing it that there's people that think it's fake. Has there been a lot of people that have reached out out to you not just like athletes but other humans and is dr elitrosh know that this is kind of

what people are going to expect now pretty much how you're healing you're like setting the tone in the conversation for what an achilles recovery could look like that's a lot of pressure but also pretty insane for some people to imagine yeah i mean i have some very interesting thoughts that espn would probably try and cut off the broadcast if i started really getting into how i feel about about that stuff but yeah come on yeah yeah i couldn't even fathom what i couldn't even fathom they're talking about your achilles we're talking about your achilles, but maybe not being part of people's conspiracies. What do you mean? The same people talking about that.

It's entertaining the possibility of conspiracy about my Achilles. Could not possibly fathom a world in which anything related to this beautiful experimental gene therapy could have any know it could have any any issues with that fascinating fascinating right so i just went into it they probably just cut the feed i don't give a shit no i don't think enough people know exactly what you're referring to there but then people will find out obviously as we go but yes you are now being a conversation big brains all those big brains out there let me just Let me just shoot you straight. There's not a lot of people that have the unique situation that I was in. I got hurt in the first drive of the season.

I don't want to retire. I want to come back. I got the best doctor in the country. My full-time job is rehab. my full-time job is rehab and my mindset from the morning after the surgery or the injury before i even got surgery was i'm gonna try and do something that nobody's done before so i poured my entire energy and research into this and i mean i wasn't even a question whether or not i was going to use neo it was right, what are the best rehab modalities? Where should I rehab?

What can I do at home? What can I add to it? And who's done anything in this realm before? So I talked with a number of people who had torn their Achilles. I listened to what they liked, what worked. The majority of those people, you know, a lot of them athletes, awesome people. And I'm so thankful for the time. They were on different timetables, though.

They were thinking, listen, we're going to get this thing back and get back to competition, but not in a rush. And I feel like I want to get back. So I'm more rushed because my time is nearing the end. I don't have as many years left as a Clay Thompson or some of some of these you know amazing athletes who've been hurt you know earlier in their career um i want to get back on the field so my whole goal the entire time is how can i get back on the field what can i do from a diet standpoint from a modality standpoint from a daily rehab standpoint in order to put myself in position to play as quick as possible um but yeah it was it was ruptured.

It was fixed by the best doctor in the land, and my entire focus from September 13th has been rehab and get back on the field. Those modalities have been batting 1,000, apparently, from outside looking in with you walking, especially having to walk the entire length of that football field. And then the gentleman, Steve, the dude you tapped on the shoulder he was wearing your jersey and you said nice jersey took a picture with him he reported that you actually

sped walk walked off yep so as a jets fan which i believe he was when he saw you move he was like hey he's coming back soon when you do this every time you do it i think you give hope to people who either in the future tear their achilles and you give hope to Jets fans that you're going to get back on the field this season. Now, you've said it, to get back on the field this season, the boys got to be in it. We just lose a tough one. That was a tough one against the Raiders. Raiders having a good time right now.

They're smoking cigars. Antonio Pierce is showing up with hydraulics and drop tops. I mean, it is an awesome time to be a Raider. For the Jets, though, seems like it's the same song and dance here. Defense doing its thing. Offense not having any success at all. What do you say in those moments? How hands-on are you with the offense when you're back in there? And what are your thoughts about the Jets going forward here? How do we get it fixed?

It's tough because we're nine games in. You know, I think a lot of the issues that we're having are ones we've had for a lot of the season. You know, we're not being efficient in the red zone, not being opportunistic on third down. We're very low in both those categories. This game, we actually got in the end zone, looked like twice. You know, Zach got in, got called back. He was out of bounds, which was a millimeter call there. Then we scored a rushing touchdown, called back

on a holding, took points off the board. Had another reverse, called back on a holding. That was the first down that put us in good position. We had some other opportunities to score points, I think. It's a lot of the same things hurting us every week. You don't get the ball in the end zone and you're not going to win many games.

It doesn't matter who's playing defense for you. And our defense has been fantastic. But four field goals, six points the previous week, 13 the previous week, and a win, not good enough. So there's a lot of geniuses out there with ideas about how to fix the whole thing. But in actuality, very simple. If you watch the film, you could see where the issues lie. And there's, you know, there's plays to be made.

There's opportunities that are out there. And we're just not getting it done. Yeah, that's, you know, watching it's tough. And I don't watch the film of the Jets. I apologize. I see them live. That's enough for me. But it is like the whole offense, I feel like, in Hackett's mind, and this is no shot at any quarterback, let alone Zach Wilson.

Zach Wilson gets enough heat already. That BYU throw at the end there, Hail Mary, pretty sweet. But it's like I feel like Hackett last year thought there was a chance you were going to Denver. You did not. This year thought you were going there. You did not. It's like an interesting,

because Hackett's taking it right now, Bob. Hard. Hackett's taking it hard on the shins. You hear that? You see that noise or no? Yeah, yeah, I see it. I won MVP twice in the same offense, so I'm a believer in the offense. And, you know, there's a lot of positions you got to play better.

Yeah. But, yeah, it's easy right now to throw it at the usual suspects, you know, Zach and Nathaniel. But there's a lot of positions that need to play better. I appreciate you sticking up for your guys. Obviously, it's not easy for you to have to chit-chat, especially whenever you're not playing, so you can't affect it all. But on the sidelines, there has been some moments with you

that people have seen. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Aaron, and a lot of people are saying, too, like, well, it's pretty easy when Aaron Rodgers is your quarterback in those offenses. But this weekend, obviously, the streak kind of continued where all field goals and no touchdowns and then there's a moment on the broadcast actually where they are kind of zoomed in on Hackett he calls his play yeah here it is and then it quickly goes right

to you because you have the headset on and they want to see what your reaction is to it um how difficult is it to kind of like sit on the sidelines, hear the plays and then watch kind of the execution be screwed up? And is it tough not to like over coach, if you will, Zach, and kind of try to over help them too much? Cause obviously you're one of one and not every single quarterback can do the things that you can do in that offense. Yeah.

Connor, I can't tell what's on your shirt, but I'm guessing it's a, it's nice. What do you got going today? Sea turtles today, Aaron. Second day in a row. Oh, sea turtles. Nice. Did you wash it or is it a new shirt? No, I haven't washed any of these shirts yet.

Oh, hell yeah. Smart. Yeah, they shrink. Sometimes they shrink up. Bingo. Exactly. You get it. Smart.

Smell. That's fine. First of all, I don't overcoach Zach. I know what it's like on game day. I don't need a lot of uh uh comments on game day it's less is more i was mirrored that by tom clements way back in the day where very simple instructions and help on the sidelines not too much information there'll be times and i had to say well just say hey tmi guys like it's too much information right now like let, let's scale it back. And on the sidelines, I help him, you know, here and there.

But, you know, it's more very specific. If I see something specific, I'll tell it to him. There's a couple times where I was kind of on the field, walking out there and just reminding him a couple things. But for the most part, he's got enough guys in his ear. I don't need to be another voice. I'm helping him. I'm helping some of the other position groups during the game.

I'm obviously on the headset. But, know it's issue with the captain catching the broadcast and then what is actually you know going through my mind at some point um you know there's so many things that happen on there and there's side conversations while the after the headset goes off at 15 you know the coordinator can't talk to the quarterback so So this conversation going on between myself and Todd Downing up in the booth or one of the position coaches possibly, even Hackett, we called a 34 Wanda on that play. It was third and two. And they were in a Bronco front.

I said five down lineman, one backer. And we actually had a really good play, free snap. Now Bob Spillane was the front side of the run, and we just needed to be a little bit more vertical on the left side. The three technique kind of slanted across the guard's face to the A-gap. It should have been a little more vertical by Makai there, and we probably would have had a good play. And that's what happens.

Third and two, and you run in, and Bob looks unblocked and makes a tackle, and you're like, oh, that's what happens, you know, third and two and you run in and Bob looks unblocked and makes a tackle and you're like, oh, that's a shit call, you know. But it comes down to the execution. And, you know, Makai's been playing incredible. So it's not just, you know, I'm not saying a lot about Makai. I love Makai. He's one of my favorite guys on the team. I think he's been, you know, our most consistent lineman this year.

He's been playing incredible. But we need all 11 on every play to do their job in order for us to be able to move the sticks and get first downs. And when you're moving the ball and you're converting third down and covering the red zone, the offense looks incredible. When you're struggling in situational football, you're going to have a hard time winning.

And there's, again, not just one culprit. There's been enough blame to go around to a lot of people. And honestly, even though I mentioned Makai, like not much for him. I think he's played pretty damn good, and I'm really proud of him. But we got to play more consistently in every facet. And, you know, yeah, even if I'm playing quarterback, I'm not going to like every call. And I'm not able to do the old, like, I can't hear you.

What was the call? You guys should change this one um you gotta roll with it and even if I didn't like that call when I was out there we have a six-man box we ought to be able to block that thing up and run wand up there for for three yards and move the sticks get a first down that's hilarious to think about you telling Zach immediately after hearing it you don't you don't hear it you don't hear it. You don't hear it, Zach. That's old school. That's something that every mannerism you do on a sideline, though, is going to be documented. That is just how it is.

So however it gets taken is going to be a storyline. Who knows what was happening when you shook your head there, but I do appreciate the fact that you're talking to everybody on that thing. Hey, listen, what the hell is going on over here? What do we got cooking over there? Have you enjoyed it? Maybe become a coach in the future? No, man, I can't guard my desk.

I can't be in the business of guarding desks like that. Too much time sleeping on couches. The coaching life is a bad one, man. It's a tough one. Yeah, I appreciate it. Those guys grind hard, and many of them will tell you about it too. They certainly will.

Go ahead, AJ. What do you think, like how do teams honestly stay together when you lose? You look around the league, like the NFL is crazy right now, but obviously things become problems when you lose games. Oh, all of a sudden the ball bounces your way or your kicker makes this kick. We win the game. We don't talk about it. It's kind of swept under the rug.

Why is it so hard? I feel like when teams lose that we just – all the little stupid things always come out. How would you kind of keep a team together? Well, I think you mentioned it right before we came on, like how ridiculous this league is. I think about in 2012 we played Minnesota in the last game of the season. We're playing for the two seed, and they're planning to get in the playoffs.

You remember this, Age. Adrian was going for 2,000 yards as well, and he went off and went nuts in the second half. We were actually you know pretty damn good on offense that day i think we lost a close one game in the 30s adrian scored late to kind of put it away um if we win that game minnesota misses the playoff chicago gets in the playoffs lovey smith doesn't get fired who knows what other dominoes happen uh after that obviously chicago kind of went into a tailspin uh minus lovey and it wasn't just lovey i mean uh they ended up getting rid of brian and

lance and peanut and kind of everywhere they made that team go but one kind of game and a game that we actually you know were ahead for a decent amount of it and could have and probably should have won uh can change the whole fortunes. Look at last night. I was watching the game at the end there. You know, you have plenty of time. It was a run on field goal. But, you know, Pat, like in the first half, that was excellent execution. You know, they threw it right over the ball.

They ran off the field quickly. You have the guys coming on, doing the eligible thing. I thought it was a beautiful – yeah, we got the clip right here. This is fantastic. Yeah, it's beautiful. It's Mayday, NASCAR, Mayday, NASCAR. Mayday, they're running off the field. Here it comes. The offense

is supposed to run parallel line scrimmage. The special teams comes in from the back and they get it all lined up. Boom, boom, boom. Snap, kick. Drills it. Awesome. That was with, I believe, 17 seconds-ish, maybe 18. Something like that. The next one was 24 seconds. I have that clip I believe, 17 seconds-ish, maybe 18, something like that. The next one was 24 seconds.

I don't know if that clip as well. 24 seconds. You have a ton of time. It's full bike lock. Both sides of the ball. So I couldn't even believe. I felt like that Denver was even too quick on that one. They snapped the ball with eight seconds left.

Yes. I don't know if you saw that. They snapped the ball with eight seconds left, and. I don't know if you saw that. All right, they snap the ball with eight seconds left, and then he misses it. And what I'm saying is Buffalo have plenty of time to get their guys off the field. Now, let's live in an alternate reality, which I like to do those sometimes. So we live in an alternate reality. Oh, I lost.

Ultimate timeline where they, you know, count it up on the field because they had 16 seconds, right, from the beginning of the play to the kick. For somebody out there to count to 11, maybe they didn't count themselves as the 12th, but to count to 10 and then count themselves as the 11th and get off the field, get the 12th guy off the field, misses the kick. Now Buffalo is what, 6-4, correct? They're 5-4 going in. Now they're five and four going in now they're six

and four and now the broncos are three and six so they're looking the broncos like oh they had a couple wins but now they're kind of back to being a you know seller the seller team buffalo hey we're back on the right track huge win huge second half comeback um that's the narrative ken dorsey i mean i've seen him before but do you fire him after a game where you won pretty hard to do yeah probably not now you're five and five right different narrative different narrative for broncos they're four and five and uh you know now we got the four and five jets coming into the five and five buffalo buffalo bills and game obviously takes on even more meaning but i'm I'm just, it goes to show you,

this league is so fascinating by one little thing can just change the trajectory of, of, uh, careers, uh, both coaching and player careers. Um, pretty wild. Lives, businesses, communities, cities. I mean, so much, there's so much that is just relying upon minuscule things. You're talking about counting to 11 or whatever. It's like, yeah, they didn't even need to do the NASCAR at the end. That's just a full play clock.

That's just like, yeah, play ended. We're going out there. I agree. Pat, how wild is it that if you really break it down and think about it, and this is maybe too personal, but there was somebody who was in charge of counting to 11, who is... Because I don't know. I'm making a generalization here, but I don't think they're going to fire a guy,

an offense coordinator after a win. I think that's pretty hard to do. There's a guy who's supposed to count to 11 on the teams that is indirectly or directly responsible for Ken Dorsey being fired. Jeez. Damn. This guy's already having a bad day. I'm just saying.

But that's the reality of our thing. And let me just wrap this whole answer up. The most important thing, Age, to finish is you got to stick together because we're literally in this together. One person can have a direct impact on somebody else's job that you don't even think they're related.

It's a wild business, but that's what makes it beautiful. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Got to stay together. Now let's stick in Buffalo, though, speaking of stick together.

D-Bud has a question for you. Yeah, that guy who got Ken Dorsey fired, unfortunately, the last guy that was in Josh Allen's helmet. Super athletic quarterback, obviously super talented, can do a lot of special things. And I think sometimes that hurts him, right? You obviously were a quarterback, super athletic quarterback, obviously super talented, can do a lot of special things. And I think sometimes that hurts him, right? You obviously were a quarterback, pretty athletic, but you did a lot of your damage from the pocket, had a lot of answers pre-snap. How do you kind of almost tame Josh Allen's game to where he's doing more of those things from the pocket, getting answers pre-snaps and not depending so much on his you know legs or his superb uh athletic ability

yeah good question d but um i don't think there's a there's a you know easy uh you know one one word one line answer to that uh first i'm a big fan of josh i think he's a phenomenal player i think he's got all the skill set he can throw it he, you can move, you can run, you can play on time, play off schedule. But the great quarterbacks are consistently on time. You know, they can play on time and then, you know, they can do something extra. You know, and there's very few of those guys. But first and foremost, to be a consistent quarterback in the league, you got to play on time. And play on time means you're throwing the ball in rhythm. And, uh, I'm not sure if it's schematic stuff or, uh, you know, uh, routes or Josh not seeing it. Um, but then, you know, I think with any quarterback that's trying to get back on, on track, you have to find rhythm consistency throws where a quarterback can can throw a hitch off a hit one hitch in rhythm

to a guy or no hitch throws and doesn't all have to be uh you know a quick game where you're just throwing three step or left right in the gun but you need to find consistent throws on time and i think just watching from afar there a lot of their offense over the years has been josh's incredible ability to scramble around and extend plays and digs and davis uh and those other guys working for him and it's incredible part of their offense right they've won a ton of games doing that but in the end it's kind of like basketball and i made this analogy before you know there's great basketball teams who can get out and run and be in transition. But in playoff basketball, it comes down every single year to the half court.

Who can get stops and who can execute the offense? In the NFL, in some of those big games, and especially in the playoffs, who can execute on time from the pocket? And if you get some of those plays outside fantastic but you need to be great and efficient on time in the pocket and i don't think and again i don't think it's a josh solely issue i think he's a phenomenal player i think there's a lot of things going to that but you got to find ways for quarterbacks to have people open and then get them to throw it on time to increase the efficiency to have people open and then get them to throw it on time

to increase the efficiency, to increase the confidence. And then anything on top of that is just kind of icing on the cake. That other part can't be the sole offense. It really can't. You got to find ways to throw it on time. To further your point, I thought about this this weekend as I was watching a couple of different four boxes. Sure.

Little teams out there doing my thing on YouTube TV, teams that get down in the red zone and then just kick a field goal. It's like seemingly get very easy into the red zone, and then they kind of get clamped. And then you find out who's good, I think. Is that a – you said half court for the NBA thing, and then you talked about being able to execute in the pocket. I think you learn in the red zone who's actually good,

who's actually creative, who can make the actual throws. It's like who can putt is normally who gets birdies in golf. It's like the red zone is the same exact thing. Am I accurately depicting that, and is that how you see it as well? 100%. Let's just take the red zone. What happens in the red zone? Windows are smaller, and everything happens quicker because there's no field.

They don't have to defend. I think D-Butt said this yesterday maybe. But you don't have to defend some of the deep throws, right? Because you've got the back of the end zone. You've got the sideline. So you have to be – you have to play on time in those situations. And it's a touchdown, check down mentality, but it's an efficiency. Like we were great for years in the red zone.

In 2020, we were 80%, which no one's ever done before uh no big deal but what made us great then is that you know we called plays and i got the ball out on time you know so i was always you know better to be early uh you know in the in the red zone better be late than pregnant for some people. But it's all about throwing the ball in rhythm and on time. And when you're in the red zone, you just can't be late to stuff. So when you have a three-step concept on one side, a five-step concept on the other side, a combo forward concept, you've got to be early to the three-step

and be able to react to the five-step combo on the other side. And there's plays every single week where that can be an issue. And that's what I would talk about during the weeks with our guys, about how the footwork changes on certain plays when you get inside the red zone. And I would say on the play that we had that Spillane picked off in the game the other night, that is a three-and-five combo play. So that should have been probably a left-right and the ball goes to the flat or you reset back and throw it back to the other side.

And if you miss your footwork or if you're late at footwork, then that's when the issues come in. So we were great for years because I was earlier, we were moving. You know, when I was younger and could really move, you know, a lot of our offense was like one, two, scramble it, you know, and having Jordy and Randall and Greg Jennings and James Jones and obviously Tay, you know, who could understand the scramble drill, that became a huge part of our offense.

But the beginning part before we even got to that was, do we have plays that we can throw the ball on time now where guys are open and you can be in early anticipate stuff. And that's how you be efficient with the quarterback system. That's how you win the situational downs. And that's how you don't create an outrage for your job or your quarterback's job or your coordinator's job to be taken away. Was that the gold zone?

Gold zone. quarterback's job or your sorry your coordinator's job to be to be taken away was that the gold zone gold zone we want gold that was fun that was nathaniel hackett's baby right wasn't it is is yeah he is okay we still doing it we still doing a gold zone i haven't been in the gold zone meeting in a few weeks so i'm not sure but i assume there's something something going on there well maybe we need you back in the gold is what we need kelly's kelly's first we got to get that thing back well i'm gonna be i'm gonna be back there full time real soon um real soon really break no that's it's always been the plan the plan has been uh once we got to thanksgiving was to be back there full time. You know how it works. I heard you make a side comment there, DB. We got some breaking news.

That feels like that's ticker worthy. That's ticker worthy. You're going back to Thanksgiving. It's the holiday season, right? You got Thanksgiving, you got my birthday, and you got Christmas coming up. Of course. Then you got AJ's birthday. So you got four holidays in a row here.

New Year's Eve, five holidays. Which New Year's Eve is before AJ's birthday. AJ was obviously born on his favorite day. January 6th, of course, that guy's birthday right over there. Bit of a dust up. Jack Del Rio. That guy right there. I was right here. I was in his attic. I want to let everybody know we were doing this show on January 7th, and we had a lot of questions

for this guy. It was his birthday. We didn't know what he was up to. We had no idea what he was doing. Didn't know that many people were going to show up, I don't think. I think we need to find some sleuths. Take a picture. This is his going out outfit. This could be... There could be some...

Hey, that Viking was on the... That Viking was speaker of the House. Looked at the left, a little security guard with sunglasses. Good jawline. Celebrating a birthday. Had a birthday sash on. That could have been AJ. We don't know. Yeah. And as someone who has

enjoyed plant medicine from time to time and that there are certain servers of plant medicine who have been known to be called shamans. I find that term associated with the Viking guy to be a little disappointing. He's a vegan too, remember? Yeah. The Viking shaman, speaker of the house person, went to jail as a vegan.

They had to figure that one out. Yeah, that's tough. Yeah, he said, I'm all eating this. It's like, yeah, it's jail food, bub. Sorry. That's supposed to be bologna is what i was told when i was in jail it's supposed to be a fake meat how's that even a real thing interesting you know happy birthday to oh yeah happy birthday happy you get to that guy chance to be the speaker of the house let's get back to uh sunday night football ty is a question oh i'm sorry yeah

ty has a question for you yeah aaron uh when you got hurt i think most realistic people were like okay the the outlook on the season changes a little bit for the jets and i assume it's because you're there but you would obviously know being in new york whenever you go back better than we would but how is it i mean you guys are four and five seasons obviously not over sure the offense hasn't looked great but like anytime they're talking about new york in general it's just about how the jets suck when the giants are maybe the worst team in the nfl in like the last 15 years like why is that do you guys hear any of that or or is that just you know like it doesn't matter either way that the giants suck and they're not talking about as much is that the question?

Well, I just mean, like, why are they? Like, why does no one mention the Giants at all when it comes to, like, New York? They're just talking about how bad you guys are when you're 4-5, and the Giants are getting beat by, like, 35 points every single week. It's probably, you know, the Giant propaganda. They probably own the media, and they're. You know, they probably own the media.

Own the media and they're making sure that nobody's talking about the Giants. That's you, Bruce. Yeah. Hope you're happy, Bruce. I mean, what a question, Ty. Yeah, it was interesting. Just teeing up the Giants to get destroyed? It was a great question.

I was not going to do that. But it is an interesting little thing. Like, when you go to New York, that is, okay, you haven't really got to experience it through a season but you did experience it for a little bit media over there different than what you had been experiencing because remember whenever you were heading over there they said this guy's not gonna be able to handle yeah the journalists in New York this is real media you only got to experience a little bit now you're watching kind of from outside looking in is it different you think being a part of a New York team and what have you noticed about being a

part of a New York team even though you haven't really got to play? It's a great fan base. They're hungry for a winning culture and for a winning team. Get back to the playoffs. So they're also quick to have some knee-jerk reactions. I think that's the NFL in general, though. It's overreaction every single week. There was a Super Bowl team a few years ago, I believe,

that was 7-5 at one point late in the year, won their last four, got into the playoffs, went on the road and won a couple games and won a Super Bowl. And they were getting written off. So they always try and write off certain teams, certain points. It just matters if you get hot at the right time and everything comes together. But the fan base is great. I mean, I've met a lot of amazing people.

They travel really, really well. Not just Fireman Ed, who was in Vegas, but there are a lot of awesome fans. Like the one that I met in the casino at the ATM pulling out some money. I literally just walked around the corner and saw this guy in an eight jersey. So I do that from time to time. You just, hey, nice jersey. I like your jersey. And just keep walking.

Most of the time I have no idea. Wait a minute. What's that? That was. And then somebody actually, the story was somebody actually was like, hey, do you know who that was? And I appreciate him saying that I was walking faster, like I sped up my walk because, you know, it wasn't intentional.

I must have started striding a little bit, you know. Posing. Feeling pretty good. Yeah, yeah, posing in Vegas. But our media is, you know, it's good. It's good media. You know, I think every media is tough in their own ways. I was with, you know, one media for 18 years, and i don't feel like it ever got like easier there was you know

even though there were some friendships and and you got to know everybody by name like it didn't mean that they like started going a little bit easier and you know there's always tough questions and always certain people that like to stir it up a little more than others but i think that's a fun part of it and it's the opportunity because they would love to, and not just New York media, any media would love to get you on a soundbite that's great. A little bit of a headline. ESPN has room for seven words on their main page, right? It doesn't take much to get somebody to click on an article. You just got to give them something that can fit in that little box there little box there so um uh which aj knows a

lot about but yeah he does hey shout to his eyeball maybe you know what i mean hey what do you think about thanksgiving you got any weird theories on that i bet yeah they're already cooking for it is that the plates we're here uh yeah no no not not not cooking for it just yet but uh definitely have a turkey uh okay learn a lot of facts about turkeys and how smart they are. And some of their pre-mating rituals, sometimes the male will stand on top of the female for a while. And just kind of a peacock a little bit, even though it's a turkey. a little bit, even though it's a turkey, but just kind of like in the urban dictionary

of peacocking in a sign of dominance over the female before the mating occurs. Happy Thanksgiving. Why are you mansplaining Thanksgiving to me? What is this all about?

We're saying turkeys a little bit too often? What is this all about? What is this all about? What are you, why are you, we're saying turkeys a little bit. Toxic masculinity. Yeah. What is this right now? What is this all about? No, I think turkeys are smart animals and I would try and get as many, you know,

free range, antibiotic free turkeys as, as you can. If you're going to have turkey, some people like turkeys, some people don't. Some people like the, you know,

the lighter meat. Some people like the darker meat. Oh, definitely. They give me that turkey leg. i want one of those turkey legs that's what i'm looking for get a leg you know i mean then some ham oh give me the ham stuffing oh i know you're not gonna have that yeah i'll take one of my favorite trophies i ever got was the golden Gobbler Award from 2009 Thanksgiving game. Very proud of that. The Golden Gobbler, huh?

Yeah, I gave it to AJ on his birthday, though. AJ, you're the Golden Gobbler now. You've been gobbling. This guy got a gold medal in gobbling. Nobody's gobbled more things than AJ.

Congratulations, AJ. Let's go. Proud of you, buddy. Hey, he's a big chicken guy. What's that super frothy deal you've been drinking all day? Big chicken guy. What is that? Just tell us what it is.

Is that helping your Achilles, man? What's in there? We know there's weird stuff in there. Is that the dolphins? My morning coffee drinks. There's some coffee. There's some Chinese herbs. Whoa.

Whoa. Jack Bomb, what are we putting in there? The CCP? They're in San Fran, right north, allegedly. Look out. Easy, bro. Easy. You're the one putting in your coffee. We just want to know what it is. We didn't say China. Chinese herbs have been around for thousands of years.

Okay. All right. We get it. Yeah. The place has been around for a long time. I get it. We get that. What are you putting in there? How are we getting better? How can I cure my Achilles before it goes anywhere? There's a lot of great mushrooms as well that are not psychedelic. Those are great too, but a lot of great mushrooms. They are.

Non-psychoactive that are good for you. How's that taste? Coffee taste good? I love coffee. We got Chinese herbs. We got mushrooms. And we got coffee in there? Collagen. Oh, thank you, Skango.. And we got coffee in there? Collagen. Oh, thank you, Skango.

That's how you look so young all the time. Yeah, I like the collagen. Any protein in there? Get jocked? You trying to get jocked up? I'm always trying to get jocked. But the protein's later, you know, after the workout, after the rehab and all that. We saw you talk.

You're probably the most jocked you've been. We're kind of pumped for you to be in the most jocked state that you've been in a long time. Are we still there? You saw my trainer, right? He's pretty jocked. Triple A, super jocked you've been. We're kind of pumped for you to be in the most jock state that you've been in a long time. Are we still there? You saw my trainer, right? He's pretty jocked. AAA, super jock. Yeah. Do not get in a wrestling match with that guy. I know how it's going to end. No matter what.

I don't know if you do. It's a problem. Him and AJ wrestling down by the sand was pretty weird. Well, okay. Yeah, you say weird. I mean, it certainly got to that point. I would never wrestle AAA for the record. I have too much respect for AAA to ever wrestle that way. You still working out, though?

We still feel jocked? Like, when you get back, let's say the Achilles gets back, conditioning-wise, cardio-wise, body-wise, how long is it going to take for that to get back? I'll be fine. I'll be ready. Love that. On the way out here, Tone has a question for you.

Yeah, Aaron, let's get serious uh talking about the collagen and looking young and also i don't want to eat any turkey that's had any jabbing it either so i'm with you there amen um jeez you me pat we like a little wisdom okay in our facial hair that's right you're playing for a head ball coach that does not like any wisdom in his facial hair uh and coach salah first off, has he grown that beard in like three hours? Does he dye it? And then also, did you happen to get the brand of the stonewashed jeans that Mark Davis was wearing at midfield? Because I think there's quite a few people in this building

who are looking to purchase a pair. Bingo. Listen, I think if you're, you know. What are you, seven feet tall, too, by the way? Jeez Louise. I got my Justin Bieber Kanye West lifts in. The Nero. But let's just look at the difference.

You know, you got Mark Deary wearing the stonewashed, the old school Raiders, you know, billionaire owner. And you got Woody looking solid, his regular fit. He's got the tennis shoes, but he's got the slacks and the coat and always a Jets hat. I don't know if you can see it in this, but he's got his chain as well. There's different levels of swag. Both these guys have been around the game for a long time. Interesting conversation. I'm sure they were having.

I didn't really hear what was going on but uh but yeah those are definitely stonewashed jeans nice and uh you know mark was uh was having a nice combo there with uh what are they talking about johnson johnson i don't think there was any conversation uh about uh about johnson & Johnson products or anything like that. I know. Mark Davis. So tell me. Baby shampoo. Mark Davis, I've never met him.

I can't wait to someday. You and him know each other well? Not well. I feel like I know him a little bit just through Devontae. And Devontae likes him. Devontae really enjoys the conversation with him, said they can have some really honest conversations and enjoys, like, his presence and him being around.

And obviously he's had success, him and his dad, there for a long time. Not a ton of Super Bowls, but they also have a, you know, Vegas is coming up. You know, the Vegas Golden Knights won a championship. The Aces, I think, are back-to-back. Oh, so good. The Aces are so good. You're watching this program right now, actually.

Shout-out to the Aces. Love you, Aces. I remember thinking that Vegas, how is Vegas going to be able to have a sports team? They were talking about it. But now they've got not just those three, but the A's are coming. It felt like there was a lot of uh a lot of raider fans there at the game which i was kind of surprised by i thought it'd be more of a transient game where there'd be more kind of road team fans but um as far as robert's all this beard it's

fantastic uh he has the ability to have like uh just about every square inch of his face covered by a hair follicle which aj and myself and probably Pat as well have never really had that distinction. I did mention to him before the game, just to loosen him up a little bit, that I felt like his color was right on as far as the black that he chose for his facial hair to paint it in. He responded very quick to that. He was at that time, you know, his speaker was up here and he put that down really quick

and want to make sure everybody on the headset knew that he did not dye his facial hair at all. Okay. I'm here to say that according to Mr. Coach Sala, he does not put any product in his beard. You being a menace on those headphones is awesome to think about. Hey, before we get started, boys, how about Coach Schaller's beard today? How about it? That's awesome to think about. Excuse me.

Excuse me. Trying to win a game here, and it's not done. You know, his justification for that, and I don't want to put him on blast here, but I will, was to pull up his long sleeve real quick and show me that he had a lot of arm hair that was the exact same color. So I guess that means- Yeah, that's the first point. Checked out.

I guess that proves that he didn't put anything in his facial hair, but yeah, he's gifted for sure. That thing is a couple day growth, I believe. Hell yeah. Big dog there. He needs to just do it. Stash it up. Give us the tuttles. You know what I mean? Give yeah, big dog there. He needs to just do it. Stash it up. Give us the titles.

You know what I mean? Give us the Hulk Hogan. Is he wanting to win a Super Bowl or not? That's the question. We can't thank you enough. Go ahead. Just to finish on hair, because I love this guy. I want to call him out. Can you get some pictures of Dennis Kelly? He was on

our sideline. I don't know if the broadcast got him at all, but big Dennis Kelly, who plays tackle for us, and we play with him in Green Bay. He was on our sideline. I don't know if the broadcast got him at all, but big Dennis Kelly, who plays tackle for us, and we play with him in Green Bay. He has incredible, long, gray hair right now. See you tomorrow. All right, we just went off ESPN. That was really good. That was perfect.

That was perfect. We just absolutely... You ended your sentence right at the time too. Perfect. That's journalism. Look at you, big sports analyst on TV hitting the time the time too perfect that's journalism look at you big sports analyst on tv hitting the time oh so that's why you were trying to give me the the exit the exit music there yeah well i wasn't i'm gonna do that i'm gonna do that every time hey it's 52 and i'm like wait wait one more thing one more thing it's 52 minutes talk about it's 52 minutes is when it is yeah let me talk about john It's 52 minutes is what it is. Yeah, 52.

Let me talk about John Vieira's belly button hair now. You know, that's going to be next week. Hey, speaking of John, how about Sucla Fiske? Yeah. We got to send this tequila to the office. It's beautiful. It's very beautiful. Looks like a bong.

Looks like a bong. It does. We got to cut two or three of those. Turn that thing into one. It wouldn't be bad, I guess. It's pretty easy, yeah. And then, and then, yeah. I mean, we could.

I thought you'd be a big, I thought you'd be old school and just use an apple or something, maybe. Buddy, I mean, if we want to run through some stuff, Gatorade bottles are fantastic. Water bottles, not bad. Apple's fun. You're like, look at me, Johnny Appleweed. That's a fun one gas mask not bad bong sweet steamroller not bad cones are awesome pre-rolls are fantastic those ones that fill up all the way with the airbag uh volcano there it is throw those around bat those

around you only eat an apple if you're feeling like a cold's coming on. Yeah. Have you heard Jim Harbaugh say that they thought he sounded sick or whatever and he said the viruses can't penetrate me. Here's his exact one. Jim Harbaugh's starting to win me over. Don't look now. He is batting a thousand. He's saving his best shit for whenever it's getting the most loud. He's

been telling stories and giving opinions. Here he is on viruses and what he does to stay healthy. Yeah, I don't know what I have. Some kind of virus or something. Trainer told me, but I'm not sick. I feel great. Had a tremendous workout in today.

Thank you, Coach Sean Lockwood, for that. I'm the iron wall that viruses bash against and shatter. But, yeah, something's going on there. But just work it out. Get it worked out. Work it out of the system. Do some more push-ups. Keep talking.

Eat an apple. Don't. I think you said he was immunized right after working from that entire thing. That wasn't where he stopped, Aaron. We're not going to get into it all. It's not time to just show you Jim Harbaugh videos. This guy's batting 1,000 the last 24 hours in front of a microphone. He told a story about his pet chickens and how he used to judge chickens. He told a story about being on judge duty and preparing for his court on Friday.

This guy is awesome right now, Aaron. Nervous birds, right? Don't eat the chickens. He told a story about being on Judge Judy and preparing for his court on Friday. This guy is awesome right now, Aaron. Nervous birds, right? Don't eat the chickens. That's what he used to say. He's come around, though. He's come around. Do you want to watch the video or not? You got a lot going on in your life. It's about a minute long. Come on. Put it on. Let's go. It's needed.

Here's Jim Harbaugh talking about chickens and what he used to think first now. Yeah. Easter. Went to the tractor supply. And as before, I think they even shut things down. But with the tractor supply, I got my chickens, brought them home for Easter. And just little chicks for kids. And they loved them.

They loved those chickens for about a week. The chicks. And then the chicks became teenager chickens and then became adult chickens, all hens, egg layers. Yeah, I'm the one who takes care of them. takes care of them and the respect that I have for chickens there was there was a time when I said that chicken is a nervous bird I don't eat chicken I eat meat you know but but I was dead wrong I stand corrected these chickens are low maintenance and high production. They lay an egg every 26, 27 hours. And they eat water. They need food. And I play with them, too. I let them out in the yard.

We run around. They're happy to see me. They're happy to see me. There's times when I do a good thing for other people and they're not as happy to see me as my chickens are. So it's good. It's good for my mental health as well. And get fresh eggs every day. Highly productive. This guy's doing stand-up bits in the middle of this whole investigation of him being suspended for the rest of the season. I love it. I absolutely love it. And I like the fact that I just learned a lot about chickens. Not a nervous bird. Actually, some

dogs out there. Chickens are. Yeah, but you know why, right? You know why. He has no cares in the world. He went down the road last year with multiple teams, and he's just like, now we can say, fuck it. Fuck it. What are you going to do to me? Are you going to fire me? I'm going to

go get a job in the NFL and make, I mean, you know what they're making down in the NFL, like all these coaches, $10 million minimum a year, and it's all guaranteed. It doesn't matter. So good for him. He's reached that point where he's just like in totally zero fucks given mode. I hope he talks on Friday.

I hope he talks on Friday at this court case. What if he comes out on Friday and goes, you know what? Had a couple rough days with the chickens. One of them was pecking at his eye. He's got an eye patch on. Not good. And he's eating a little leg on camera. Said he just had to make an executive decision.

That's where everybody thought he was heading with those chickens, by the way. Whenever he said, he got kind of serious. They became teenagers and then adults. And then I ate the shit out of them. They were delicious. I thought that's where he was heading. Instead, a complete opposite way, they're happy to see me. They clock whenever I get there. It's awesome to think because

they brought up his stats yesterday. Schefter brought up his stats. I think it was Schefter. He was like, you guys text each other yet, you and Schefter? I haven't heard from him yet. Damn. Well, he lost your number. You'd have to text him. True.

He's got it, and he'll text me, and I'll probably text him back. Look at this. Which is more than some people get, so he's got to feel good about that. I mean, I did text him like he'd lose my number. You responded is what you're saying. That's a big deal. Yeah, some people don't get it. Some people don't get a response sometimes.

Yeah, some people aren't even told to fuck off. That's awesome. Yeah, true. You know what I mean? Shefty, get back in that batter's box. Hey, shout out, Shefty. Shout out. Come on, Shefty.

What did he say? Text him. Take another swing. Text him. Break another story. He was talking, I believe, about Harbaugh's win record in the NFL. 70%. It was like very good.

Like he had his time, obviously. Went to the Super Bowl, big story. And then he goes to Michigan. It's like, I wonder what the future looks like for Harbaugh. And Michigan, if he leaves too, it's like, this Michigan football team has been built up, man. They are so fucking good. They are so good right now.

What becomes next, you never know. What's on the other side of the door, you have no clue. That'd be fascinating. They are so fucking good. They are so good right now. What becomes next? You never know. What's on the other side of the door? You have no clue. That'd be fascinating. Aaron, just like every conversation we have with you, pal, when's the book club starting back up? I think we should maybe do next week. Can I finish with one thing about coaches?

Just a thought of the day. Thought of the day. New seg. New seg. New seg. Thought of the day. Love that. Normally a lot of them, this one is the one. This of the days new seg new seg new seg thought of the day love that normally a lot of them this one is the one this is the thought du jour ladies and gentlemen from aaron rogers i think it's easier to be a great coach in college than in the nfl and i think people like nick saban bear that out nick is one of the greatest coaches of all time, right? In college.

Because in the NFL, great players make great coaches. In college, great coaches can make great players. It's flipped. Now, there's obviously great players in college, but you need great coaches because you see every single year there's certain coaches that get replaced, and a guy like a Jim Harbaugh comes in or a guy who's really schematically has his shit together comes in and can turn the place around quickly with the same players NFL you need great quarterback play and

and and great players and when you have that then you have great coaches and it's it's the inverse in college I can promise that there's very few guys like Jim who's been able to be, you know, be great in college and great in the pros because usually it's great coaches

go to programs, make them better. NFL, you got to have quarterbacks. You got to have quarterbacks and you got to have, you got to have, you know,

elite talent. And that's what makes great coaches. And there's good coaches who can make players better. But for the most part, look at every great coach. They probably what makes great coaches. There's good coaches who can make players better, but for the most part, look at every great coach. They probably had a great quarterback. That was a great thought, DuJour. I'm happy we did that segment. I think you're 100%

accurate, too. Doug Peterson even alluded to it whenever he said the reason why he took the Jacksonville job is because of the quarterback. A lot of these coaches who have a chance to maybe go to other places, they're like, we all understand we need a quarterback. I think Pete Carroll, another guy, Pete Carroll's another guy who at first, whenever he was in other places, they're like, we all understand we need a quarterback. I think Pete Carroll, another guy, right? I mean, Pete Carroll's another guy who at first, whenever he was in the NFL, didn't have success.

Then he goes to college, builds up a program there. Now he's up in Seattle. Obviously, we're seeing him have success. Not easy. You got to deal with adults too, bro. You know what I mean? Pete Carroll, you know, was he worried at USC when they were coming after him?

No. He already had the biggest contract lined up in the history of the nfl for a coach he went off to seattle made his money left that place you know under under you know sanctions bull you know bull sanctions and issues no big deal he's making at the time i think seven million dollars eight million dollars a year and look at jim harbaugh you know i think he might have been at stanford at the time he saw that going on he's like oh you can do that now earlier in the year there was reports that well a couple weeks ago i guess there was reports that the nfl is not just going to hand a golden parachute to Jim Harbaugh with

what has happened in Michigan. I'm like, whoever's reporting that needs to never report anything ever again. We need to find out who said that, who, who is the person that said that, that thinks that some billionaire who wants to win in the NFL is going to be like, you know, what's you Connor Stallion. Yeah. Let's, you know, let's not, let's not hire this guy just yet. Just to prove a point. The NFL. Not mess with our higher institutes of learning at the lower levels. Yeah, fucking right. Yeah, the NFL. Yeah, they would do that for sure.

All right. We appreciate the hell out of you. Can't wait for the book club. Good luck on continued success during this recovery. And breaking news. This guy's going to be back in New York near the Thanksgiving. Let's go. That's great news.

You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, what's on your shirt what's that say what's that say some lyrics just some lyrics here and it's basically lyrics about uh about knowing that uh today is going to be be a better day than the previous day so you know i've been trying to positive stuff you know it's uh shirts like this and cherish the little things hats. And this is the same company here. It's called Hygge because it's a slight spelling adjustment on a Danish concept. And the Danish concept is the idea of cherishing all the little things. I've said this on the show before.

But I just believe in the positive mindset and and uh uh you know speaking things into existence and manifestation and um it helps definitely helps better to think of things that way than to be bitching about what you don't have what you wish you had uh which you'd rather be doing uh because a lot of a lot of beauty all around us and what do you always say when you uh when you sign off on your break? Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. You know?

Might change your life. Why? Why is that? Might change your life. It might. You never know. You never know what somebody's going through. You have no idea.

You never know. You never know. Could be that one little thing gets them over the hump. So appreciate you guys. Ahooga? Hey, hooga on three. For the people in Denmark. Hooga. One, two, three. Hooga. Hell yeah. Appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Hugo on three. For the people in Denmark. One, two,

three. Hugo. Appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, Aaron! Joining us now is a man who was a two-time pro bowler when he was in the NFL, flying around the football field. Now, he's just the head coach of the Houston Texans, a team that this past weekend went into Cincinnati

and got a massive win on a walk-off field goal. Ladies and gentlemen, Alabama legend, D'Amico Ryans. Yeah, coach! How are you, coach? Doing great, man. How you guys doing? Man, I'll tell you what, not as great as a rookie head coach who has C.J. Stroud as their quarterback. Hey, this has got to be good to have C.J. Stroud playing the way he's playing. How has that affected, obviously, your rookie head coach season?

And did you or could you have ever expected C.J. to be able to do what he's doing right now, coach? C.J. is doing an outstanding job, as everyone's seen. as cj is doing an outstanding job as everyone's seen uh the most important thing is how he's you know won the locker room and the way the guys behind him right the way they fight for him they want to play for him he's exuded that confidence and i think his confidence has rubbed off on our entire team right and that's what you have to have in that quarterback position the guy that everybody in the organization the guy that everybody in their locker room believes in. And that's what CJ has been proving over the past couple of weeks, that he's a guy that you can believe in.

Go ahead, AJ. Did you guys, I assume you guys were in on that early. You knew his leadership abilities and what he was able to do and get the team behind him. But that wasn't always like the narrative from the public. And we know like there's all kind of disinformation always thrown out there. But is he just reinforcing, I guess, what you guys kind of knew when you drafted him? For sure. As we go through the process, right, we take a thorough process, thorough look.

So it's talking through talking to all his coaches, people that have been with him. And the most important thing for me is throughout the combine process is talking to all of his teammates. And you hear how much they respect this CJj how much love they have for cj you hear the great things that cj did as a leader for his offensive line and for the all the guys that were around him that's what really stood out to me throughout that process and you know that he was not without a doubt that's a great leader. Let's talk about some of these weapons that CJ has that maybe we didn't know about. Noel Brown, Nico, obviously Tank Dell is doing his thing. I know you're obviously head coach now, so you're everywhere,

known to be a defensive genius whenever you're in D.C. with the Niners. But when you think about this offense with a bunch of players that the National, we didn't really know who the hell they were. They've exploded here, and they don't blink, Coach. Hey, Nico wasn't playing, but Joe Burrow and the boys marched right down the field. You're in Cincinnati. It's almost like these dudes don't know what they don't know,

or are they just the right type of guy? Because there was never a doubt from any of them, it felt like, on Sunday. And that has happened numerous times through this season thus far for you. Yeah, they're just the right type of men, I think, and how we work. It doesn't matter, right, who gets to shine. Everybody just wants to win. So whenever your number is called, all our guys are ready. They're prepared for the moment.

Nobody is stressing in the moment. But when they get the opportunity, right, CJ is delivering the ball. No matter who's open, they know they get the opportunity, CJ is delivering the ball, no matter who's open, they know they can get an op. Noah has shown up. He's had a career day versus the Bucks, and he comes back and he has another career day versus the Bengals. Noah has shown up. He's been consistent since day one for us. Tank showing up being an explosive playmaker. Nico, he's been explosive. All those guys, they've been working this way, right, in the dark where nobody else has been watching them.

I've been seeing this since OTAs, how consistent our wide receiver room has been. And not only in the passing game, what sets our guys apart is their willingness to get in there and get the nose bloody in a running game. And that's what I love most about our receivers. You're talking about, I mean, what a crew. It'd be great to have. Hate that you're in the AFC. And that's what I love most about our receivers. You're talking about, I mean, what a crew. It'd be great to have.

Hate that you're in the AFC South. Tough. Absolutely hate it. But you talk about seeing those guys working behind closed doors since OTAs. Let's talk about you. Obviously, rookie quarterback is having an incredible job. People forget rookie head coach.

Been a player, been a coordinator. Now you're head coach. Ten weeks into the regular season. Comfortable? Figuring it out? Schedule-wise? Everything, all the bullshit that comes across your desk now? Like, is that a thing?

What has it been like being a head coach here? Now, granted, it's better when you're winning, I would assume. But your team has done fantastic. You're seemingly handling it with ease. What has it been like to be a head coach now? Yeah, a lot better when you're winning, for sure. That part has been good. But everything is kind of, we're just hitting our stride.

I think, you know, I'm more comfortable in the role. I think just all collaboratively, everyone around me has just helped out. We've all worked well together. Coaching staff has done an unbelievable job of getting their players ready to go each and every week. So I'm just really thankful for my staff and the work that they put in. They deserve all the credit because they've done an unbelievable job. How do you feel, like, obviously you were a coordinator, so you've coached before, but, like, we're seeing Antonio Pierce right now.

Really, the locker room loves him immediately. And I think being a former player, your resume, especially you, two-time Pro Bowler, Antonio Pierce, Super Bowl champion, legend, it's like your resume is already figured out, so guys just like are naturally going to follow you. What is your coaching style? And do you believe that because you're a former player, it has helped you immensely in this role that you have now?

With my style, man, I want to be energetic. I want guys to understand, man, football is supposed to be fun. It's not going to be something you dread. It's hard enough, right? The game that we play is hard enough. So I want guys to, first of all, be themselves, right? They can relax. They can be themselves and have fun playing the game.

And that's what I wanted to, you know, showcase the most for me being a former player, understanding how hard it is. Like, you can have fun, man, playing ball. And it's even more fun when you win. But I really want guys showcasing their personalities. Don't want anybody walking on eggshells when they're in the locker room. I want guys having fun on guys clowning around, having fun with each other. Then when it comes time to being on the field, doing your job, being where you're supposed to be, man, be accountable, do what you're supposed to do, but have fun doing it. Got to have the right people to have that culture feels like you guys found it

quickly congrats to you we're loving watching it all darius has a question for you domico yeah sure coach so uh obviously you've been a coordinator before you got the head coaching gig and it's been some conversation about uh around the league about some different coordinators going to the sidelines as opposed to being in the press box offensively and defensively what are some of the pros and cons of either call you talked about energy obviously you can i feel like you can feel that a little more on the sideline but what are some of the pros and cons of calling it from the box and on the sideline as a play caller and for me just being a former player always being on the sideline there's just a unmatched energy that you feel on the sideline and being able to communicate with

your players instantly right when they come off the field if something happened good or bad I can congratulate my guys I can you know praise them I can celebrate with them if something negative happened I can correct them right in that moment so I don't have to have them getting on the phone or getting on the headsets I can correct them right in that moment and I can praise them in that moment. Think for guys who've been in the booth, I think it's just, it's a calming atmosphere for play callers, right? It's not chaotic up there.

They can really lock in and focus on the play calls. But for me, you know, I'm a man of, I'm, I'm a player at heart. So I need to feel that energy. I want to be down there with my guys, and I want to give them all the energy I have as well. Just as a complete dipshit in this whole football world, I didn't even start thinking about it until the Matt Canada move in Pittsburgh. It's like all the things you lose out on being up in that booth. Like how about just looking in a guy's eyes and being like,

oh, this dude, hey, feels like this guy today is a different dude than he was maybe during the week. It's like that type of energy and vibe you can't get anywhere else. How have you enjoyed the sideline? You got a lot more say down there now, you know what I mean, Coach? No, I've enjoyed it, man. You hit it on the head right there. If a guy is in a funk, like, man, you can say those words,

you see it instantly. So you can say, you know, some encouraging things to him and snap him back, right, so he can go out and have a better series the next time out. But those are the things that I truly enjoy, right, and I enjoy most. Like when guys make plays, man, I want to be there to celebrate my players because I know how hard it is to make plays in this league. Yeah, it's a big deal, too, when a head coach is out there celebrating.

Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Coach, everyone always talks about Taysom Hill kind of being the Swiss Army, the best Swiss Army knife in the NFL. He can do so many things, but you guys have Dare Ogumbawale, I believe is how you pronounce his name. We saw him a couple weeks ago having to fill in when Fairbairn

went down. A couple touchbacks, made a field goal. Just curious, what was his max distance that you guys were comfortable with him kicking and then also we saw this last week him having a massive hit on kickoff it has that been something you guys have known about him the entire time you've had him like that this guy can basically go out there and and do anything that we ask him to do on the football field and do you think there's anyone else like him in the NFL yeah Darre man he's been very reliable but we you knew that during throughout training camp right

practice some kicks with him in training camp so you always have those guys you try to see who can be an emergency kicker for you so Darre is one of those guys with his soccer background he stepped in and did a really nice job for us I think his max range was right where we kicked it. That was his max range. It was right on time right there. Then, well, like you said, Darre does a great job in his special teams role. He stepped up last week, man, two big hits on kickoff team. He does a great outstanding job protecting on the punt team. But it's those guys right in the league, those guys who take that special team role

and they take it serious, and they're the true captains of your special teams unit. Those guys matter, and Darre, he's been outstanding for us. Coach, you fair catching kickoffs? If we have to, we will. Come on! Coach!

Coach! We can't do it. We can't. We can't. Even if it benefits your team. You can't. You get the ball to 25 with C.J. Stroud, I get it. Okay, and all those weapons you do.

But if you let this happen, Coach, I know it's your first year, what are they going to take next? Exactly. What are they going to take next? We can't let that happen to the game. You know, we got to keep it a physical game. You agree with that? Like the special teams of it.

How do we kind of. They had a fullback take one back this year too, right? Yeah. Down the side. Yeah. When we get an opportunity now, we'll make you pay. If we get an opportunity, we'll just release our secret weapon there, Andrew Beck.

We want to make something happen on the kickoff return team. Special teams is wild right now. I appreciate the fact that you guys have great specialists. I appreciate the fact that you have a young core that seems to be very mature. And we're loving watching your rookie season as a head coach down there in Houston. Before we let you go, obviously we have to ask you

about the Elephant in Houston Texans right now organization. Denzel Perriman has been suspended three games for hits that have occurred during football games. The last one was against Jamar Chase. I guess there's been a couple others in the past. You guys are, he's going away from the team for three weeks now. Not allowed to be in the building, I believe, because of a suspension. What will you say to him before this and how does that conversation go if you've already had it? Yeah, I've spoken with Denzel. Tough conversation and he knows it.

We hate to lose a good player for us, a starting linebacker for us, and we'll just let the process play out. It's just, you know, it's hard. We have hard news to hear, but we'll have our young guys stepping up, ready to go. I think he's losing like $380,000 in game checks. I mean, it's a big deal, but obviously the NFL put in their suspension this morning.

We can't wait to see how you guys maneuver around it, navigate an incredible season that can still be had. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach D'Amico Ryan. Appreciate you guys. Thank you, Coach. Yeah, morning of him coming on show. That happens. He handled that very well, though. He did. Let the process handle out. Yeah, it's

disappointing, obviously. That's two now. Two defenders suspended now with multiple games. Kareem Jackson, four, got taken down to two. Now this is three. I would assume it would probably be knocked down to one or two. This is the most recent hit against Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase was going to slide. He's not a quarterback, though.

He's a wide receiver. It was a little bit of a late decision as well. Boom! I mean, he brings the hammer when he looks nastier it looks nastier than it was because he's going down and his head slams back you know yeah but he you know that whole it's not head to head technically yeah but you see the way he puts his head directly down the what the nfl is going to say is yeah he lowered his level very late and he's not a quarterback he's not a quarterback.

He's a wide receiver, so you don't expect a slide, potentially, whenever there's somebody right in front of you. It is football. You've got to make your hit. But you see the crown of his helmet going down on that particular angle here. There's another play that we have from one of his earlier hits where he just literally lowers his head, and he's just running straight like old school. I mean, he's literally just running just like this in for that

tackle there so i'd assume the nfl was saying like hey can't have you doing this yeah for yourself those are the types of hits that you know what i mean those are the ones those are the scary ones i think i've said on here yeah there's like compression fracture or whatever spiral fracture that that can yeah do some damage so i would assume that's why the suspension happened for him uh obviously those are devastating blows and Jamar Chase took a hard one, that guy took a hard one, but I think this is potentially the NFL saying, hey, Bub, people don't tackle the way you tackle anymore

because we've learned that the way you tackle is terrible for your well-being. That's going to be tough for him to change, but also I think there's like seven of these shots that have happened over the last couple years that the NFL has probably fed up with it, but also hopefully this could potentially save Denzel who's a good football player great football player great football player absolutely we had uh hitman on Harrison Smith talk about how

you know you just got to change what year is this for him like eight nine yeah he's been around for a while he's probably bowler 2021 with the Raiders I believe yeah yeah so he he brings it but he's gonna have to change it a little bit and like you said that especially that last one, that's more of like protection for the offensive player and almost probably more so for yourself as a defender. Back in the day, you find a guy that does that, it's like, oh, here's our wedge buster. It was like, yeah, a lot of dudes will do that. That's great news. And then we learned about the reason why people are probably scared to do that

is because it's incredibly dangerous to yourself now just like aj says my jaws constructed a little different that's why i don't get concussions muscle and i do jaws are size right denzel perriman probably believes that he is built different than most people that's why he's able to do that's why he hits so hard and it's almost like the nfl is probably trying to be like yeah we hey bub need you to change a little bit at this stage nine years in i I mean, $300-some-thousand out of your pocket is a big deal. Yeah. That's a big deal.

I don't make you think about it. This is the one, like the head down one, it's more to protect yourself, the tackler, not the person you're trying to hit. I feel like when you hit him with the crown of your forehead, head to head, that's more to protect the person you're hitting. But this one's like, hey, don't put your head down because that's how people get paralyzed. We understand it's tough.

But, yeah, I mean, he's going to have to think about it now. Show that second video. Show that second video again. I mean, he's like a four-yard run-up with his head directly down. It's like this is everything that the NFL was trying to stop there for like, you know what I mean? I mean, that's just like. He's still had it.

Yeah, I mean, it's tough as nails. Back in the day, though, that's how football was taught. So it's like it is a very – we're not saying that this doesn't suck for Perriman, and it's like that's a damn shame, but that's like very much what the NFL is like. Nah, we ain't doing that anymore. They made a lot of rules for that because of lawsuits

and potential future lawsuits and health and money mostly, but that is basically what they are talking about in this entire thing. Yeah, I mean, you've talked about it before too. This guy's a nine-year vet. When he was growing up, that is not what he learned. So the people who are in the league now absolutely have been taught how to tackle, but Denzel Bearman was taught one way, and that's exactly what it was. Yes.

For everybody. You got jacked up was the segment. Yeah. A lot of these. A lot of these. Yes. For everybody. You got jacked up was the segment. Yeah. A lot of these. A lot of these. Well, technically, no decent coach is teaching you to put your head down. They're telling you to put your head in there, but not to put your head down.

Yeah. We're not doing any of that anymore. It happens, though. No, we're not doing that anymore. You're potentially coaching Ohio. We need to make sure. Up, out of the way. That's right.

Up and out. You'll probably injure yourself doing it if you need to make sure. Up, out of the way. Up and out. You'll probably injure yourself doing it if you try to do that. I'm just saying. No one wants your head down. Up and out. I've taken all the courses. I've taken all the online courses on how to tackle now. That's it, right? Up and out. Do you respect it? Sure. Is that what the courses are telling you?

Yeah, I'm always deciphering. We all interpret things differently. He looks cool. You look super cool with those glasses yeah this thing comes and goes and runs starts running and burning and then it stops for a little bit it starts running and burning it's all right oh yeah and when you today because you don't have any patch at all when you smoke your cigar it's just going directly into that eye that has become a little bit of a lazy eye right now right no it hasn't really that that doesn't really honestly affect it it was going right my eye yeah that would but just now if i try to move my eyeball at all that's when it's

it's like gravel up there where i try to turn my eyes left or right so i'm just staring i'm staring at here and almost falling asleep in these glasses trying to move my eyeball just straight ahead you know how much you move your eyeball yeah all the time even when you close your eyes it goes up yeah so it's like never ending you smoke weed that's what i just heard you pothead yeah because i asked how much for you yeah because there's been numerous times where i've potentially been on cloud 40 and i'm like geez eyes are doing a lot like even when i close my eyes it goes up and it goes down and then's always moving. Do they ever get a break? When I sleep, I'm getting a break,

but do my eyes ever? Always going. Rem. Can we get another view of that eyeball here? Hour two and a half in. It's not running right now, so it's actually good. I get it. It's coming back. We're watching this thing come back. It's growing stronger.

It's not that red right now. That one hurts so bad. I can't blink growing stronger. It's not that red right now. Oh, that hurts. That one hurts so bad. I can't blink, obviously. It'll be 100% by Friday. Oh, yeah, Friday. Kind of look like The Rock with the eyebrow. A little bit. You know what I mean?

When it went down and went up. Ohio's Rock. You look so cool with those glasses. How come Aaron was attacking you today? Yeah, I did feel like you two had a little animosity. I mean, come on. Like he said,? Yeah, it did feel like you two had a little animosity. It brought up your wife. I mean, come on.

Didn't he say low-hanging fruit? Okay, get some new material. I saw where he was going the whole time. We get it. Cool. You make sex jokes. That's what we're talking about, though. You guys, you still have a little animosity. You get it from Bob.

No, no. I just expect some better material. He kind of brings the same thing. Whenever he gets a little spicy, he brings the same kind of stuff when he's in a goo. You know, he's bopping around. Like, when he hits a good golf shot and he's walking, he's bouncing down the fairway compared to when he's playing terrible

when he's 300 yards in front of the whole group pouting. Yeah, what's this all about? It feels like there's a little eight of boston. Something's happening here. Is there a falling out that we need to get? Oh, way whatsoever i'm just you know i'm just observing things i'll tell you what he's a very good golfer yeah he can hit the shit out of the ball why is he so good at golf actually that doesn't make because quarter yeah but like a lot of quarterbacks aren't like he's a fucking golfer like and he expects himself to be a golfer. That's the thing on top of it.

He doesn't play nearly as much as a lot of those golfers that are up in that top five, top ten, do he? That's what I'm saying. This motherfucker just got back from Hungary. How long were you there? Four years? That's what it potentially felt. Well, I tried this one thing, and I was there for actually six months,

but it was just five days or whatever. Okay, dude. These other people were at a country club practicing their putts, stretching out, and then he goes and plays against them. He's beating. I'm like, you ever think about like trying at this? You could potentially be. No, these guys are way too good.

And he's what? He's fucking top five this year. Cost us what? 75 grand? Is that what it was? Yep. Bingo. Jesus Christ.

He's an alien. He might be one of them. There's a chance. How about Dan Rolofsky said no chance of aliens, but is your Mayor Rogers? I love it. Con Man had multiple good comebacks on that one. Well, the religion one really started us in a whole

other combo. That one's on me. Hand up. You just couldn't let it slide. Hand up. I could not let that one go. Could not get through it. No, no, no, no. Had to let it out. No chance. Hey, James Madison on Friday. We pumped. I'm pumped.

Yeah. Jacked up. I've gotten to the point where I'm pumped. I looked at the videos. No offense, James Madison. I'm very pumped to get there. But I looked at the 10 verse 5 is happening. Yeah, that's the only thing.

Just like that's Oregon State, Washington. I just want to, for people that don't know. Oh. Okay. Not you. Mm-mm. That's happening in what city? Corvallis.

There we go. Yay! There we go. I mean, you are absolutely on it, but like that whole thing, James Madison, I've started looking into it, like obviously they're in the middle of a just bullshit rule with the NCAA. Like, no reason for them to be getting punished the way that they're getting punished,

except for an archaic rule that just can be changed and allegedly potentially being petitioned right now. So we shall see if the NCAA, just like the Tez Walker, North Carolina stuff, could have happened like six weeks beforehand. NCAA would have been put in good light. This one seems like everybody's in agreement like, hey, don't have to enforce a two-year transition period for a school to become officially D1, especially if in the first year instead of the normal move,

which is like still have a D2 schedule, but you're transitioning into D1. Then the next year you have a full D1 schedule, and then you're allowed to get into championships and bowl games and everything like that. They took a D1 schedule their first year in their transition. So they tried to expedite that whole thing. Then they petitioned like, hey, we didn't have that transition year. We want straight into D1, D1 schedule. Is there any way we could change that?

And the NCAA allegedly looking into it for James Madison, who's currently undefeated, not allowed to play in the Sun Belt Championship. Makes no sense at all. Makes no sense. Played people, beat people, earned right to go there, but because of some NCAA bylaw, whatever. It's stupid. But then I started looking at their fan base.

I started looking at their game day. I started looking at the last time college game day was there. It was like, all right, this is going to be sweet. Anytime you get a chance to go to a place that you don't get to go often, like Game Day, I feel like their fans bring it. I'm pumped to get there on Friday. Harrison-Bergville is going to be sweet. That's not the name.

It's Harrison-Berg. Harris. Harris-Berg. No, Harris-Berg is in Pennsylvania. Yeah, PA. That's Harrison-Berg. Harrison-Berg. What did Diggs say?

Harrison-Berg-ville. Yeah, he was trying to cover all the bases. I think it's what he was doing halfway through there. It's Harrisonburg. It is awesome. Just like that town in Iowa where Deeds is from. Winchester. Winchester.

And Fieldville. Yeah. Okay. Deep pool. Mr. Deeds. Good find. Shout out to you for doing that for him. Thank you.

But also, yeah, can't wait to get there on Friday. She'll be a blast. The whole show will be there. Yeah. Jacked up. I mean, you know, just any of these ones that are kind of different than your traditional game day feel, they're fun. They are. Yeah.

And good energy. Yeah. Can't wait to see what I learn about town Friday for Saturday's college game day. And they're going to be excited because, I mean, maybe they thought they would, but going into the season, you're not expecting like, oh, hey, game day is probably going to be coming this year. Game day, like, I love and respect the shit out of college football. Sure. Absolutely.

Okay? I do. All levels. I do. I love and respect it. A lot more now, obviously, than before I got a chance to experience it all in there. College game day coming to town, and I'm very lucky to be on the show.

Very, very lucky to be on the show. Kirk's been on there for 28 years. 28 years. Don't you forget it. And 28 years ago, it wasn't what it is now. But it has grown into like, hey, here we go. It's like a game pretty much. Like a national game is coming to your campus.

People show up for game day. Yes. And they are so incredibly hospitable and so nice. And they want to put on for their school and for their alumni and for everybody and their thoughts. And it's also a commercial for your school. Like this is about to be a James Madison commercial pretty much. A lot of people who don't know a lot about James Madison are about to learn a lot about James Madison through College Game Day

on Saturday. It's an honor to be a part of something like that. I have some friends that went to James Madison. They're very proud to be Dukes. Very, very proud to be Dukes. They've talked a lot of shit about how awesome that place is and now the whole world is going to get a chance to see it on Saturday pretty much.

I'm pumped to be a part of that. Lucky to be a part of that. Excited to get down there. The school was thriving as a whole. We talked about last week the upset their soccer team had, and then I believe their basketball team is now ranked because they beat Michigan State, and then they've won a few times. That Michigan State? That one.

Oh, Izzo the coach? And then obviously the football program being what? 9-0, 10-0? 10-0. 10-0. Like, big deal. It's going to be sweet. App State coming in.

Yeah. They have heartbreak all It's going to be sweet. App State coming in. Yeah. They have heartbreak all over their resume for other people. That was a little town you went to last year. So it's full circle. Yeah, it was. App State was nice. Boone, North Carolina. That's right.

Up there in the mountains. I think we're going up into the hills here for James Madison as well. Pretty sure it's in the middle of nowhere. Feels like we're up in a good way. In a good way, Tony. Beautiful countryside. Nothing but football and booze. Did they announce the celebrity picker yet?

Did they announce the picker yet? I do not think so. I think I know who it is. It's not James Madison. Tell you that much. He's dead. Can you give us a hint? Among other things. Is it a music group? Joe Burrows will be there.

Joe Burrows will be there. Did they go to James Madison? Joe, they did not. Somebody said that yesterday. I do not think they went to James Madison. That was me. I apologize. I believe they have a new song out that they're going to play.

Oh, hell yeah. And it's good. Okay. I heard this. It's a good song. What do you mean, burning up? Where are they playing it? Huh?

Where are they playing the new song? James Beck, Game Day, Saturday. Oh, they're going to be the guest pickers? No. Jesus Christ. Can you open up your ears? Please. I'm trying.

There's no why, no ears. It's a tough show. The Go-Bros are going to be there, but they're not part of Game Day? No, they are. They bring their own Game Day. Fucking Christ. I mean, let them be the guest picker. What are we doing?

Do you remember when Dan and Shea performed at game day? I do, but I missed them. I just saw them going for rehearsal. When I taste fear, maybe I shall fear. So they're performing on game day. Boom. At James Madison. Joe Bros.

I saw a lot of people saying Joe Bros. It's like, watch the doc. Joe Bros are bros. Yeah. The best. Watch your tone, too. Joe Bros. Joe saw a lot of people saying Joe Bros. It's like, watch the doc. Joe Bros are bros. Joe Bros are dogs out there. Is one of them still on The Voice? I don't think so. I saw them

on Songland. It was great. That's when I developed massive respect because the young one who sings it said something along the lines of we need more songs, mostly because I'm sick of singing songs about when i was 12 years old he's like i don't really relate to these songs anymore makes sense so i'd like to get new songs he was like oh and then he watched the documentary it's like they very much understand that they were a kid act you know and then like trying to evolve and change has been a constant thing for them

i'm pumped to see them perform on god joe br Joe Bro's concert on Saturday we're going to. That'd be sick. That's sweet. The other brother, too. The fourth brother is part of that show on ABC, like Celebrity Relatives, and you have to guess the other persons who they're related to. Of course. Yeah, it sounds sweet. The fourth Joe Bro. Of course. I knew that.

Yes. Sounds like I'm missing something here. There's that show on ABC. No, no, you're not missing anything. I was just thinking about the Joe Bro. Like Frankie you're not missing anything. I was just thinking about the Jonas Brothers. Like Frankie, is it? Yeah, I was just thinking about the Jonas Brothers, and that was the last thing I think I saw about them. That one on the right is the one? Yeah.

Is it Jonas? Yeah, the guy on the right is in that show, and then I forget. He made a bad decision at one point in his life. He said, I don't want to do it. Yeah. Probably. Yeah, didn't want to play the bass or something. Yeah, and then all of a sudden it's like.

I think it's just younger. Yeah, well, one of them's going through a pretty rough time now as well with the divorce, which is incredible. That's good. Get the music out. Man, I feel bad about that. Me too. To Sansa?

It's real. Yes. Yeah, Sansa Stock from Game of Thrones, the actress and that, she was like talking a bunch of junk about him on a ring cam, and he found out and heard it. These ring cams. Dude, they'll get yous. They catch everything. They can get hacked too. What?

Excuse me? Listen. Thank you for the transition. We've been playing a lot of Jim Harbaugh's clips over the last 24 hours because they are awesome. They are amazing. Jim Harbaugh's winning me over just on the mic right now. His promos right now, top of the business.

Telling stories about chickens and everything else. I've got a virus, but I'm not sick. I have a steel wall, an iron wall. The virus is bashed off. Everything he's spitting right now, hitting. He said Michigan's going to be America's team

because America likes teams that have to battle through adversity and consequent blah, blah, blah blah blah blah everything like that and I don't know if anybody's ever going to get on board Michigan just because like you're me thought about Michigan is one particular way and I think they own it like being a Michigan person is something but I think there's people that naturally hate what Michigan people are forever that's going to happen yep not me I'm just saying those humans do exist out there Har Harbaugh has become one of my favorites. But we have now happened into a time where this AI is not good. Dangerous.

This is not good. These edits are getting too, too good. And Jim Harbaugh is the most recent one. Listen and watch this particular video that was on the internet last night. Now, this account. Yeah, Heavens. Heavens has done talent. He's good. Heaven heavens is a real talent darn good he's a real real talent because this particular promo hit the internet last night and i think everybody was aware that

it wasn't necessarily real which we all need to know as we go to watch this but while you're watching and seeing how good it looks it's like wait a minute play the video please it's got to be america's team got to be america's team i can tell america loves a team that uh you know has all the resources and advantages you know and still tries to break the rules to find that any little extra advantage and you, you know, there's nothing more American. That's my favorite kind of team. Yeah, cheating, lying, and then playing the victim. Doesn't get any more red, white, and blue than that.

Okay, so heavens crushing. So good. Thank the heavens for the heavens account, obviously. But when you watched that, you said you can tell. Yeah, I guess if you fully investigate that and look at the lips, you can tell. But there's a lot of people that are not going to be able to tell in the future with things that are just on the internet. They're going to get quoted, sent, clipped, gone. Think about if this had actual implications on it.

What if this was a world leader? Oh, Putin. Yeah. Okay. And Putin has one of these videos where he says something about us. Then all you need is what? One person in America with any legitimacy, just be like, listen to this shit, boom, put it out there. And then are we going to call Russia to see if it's true or not? We need to worry about this. Hey, this heavens is a talent. Yeah, absolutely. And I'm assuming

there's only one heavens and nobody else is going to be able to do this. But this is scary time on the internet. This is scary because with where Jim Harbaugh is batting a thousand talking about pet chickens and everything, that video could easily be a Jim Harbaugh promo that would definitely go completely against how he actually feels. But people could believe in the narrative world that we're in. I'm worried about it, AJ. I'm worried about it. That's all I thought of when I watched that video. Go promo for Madden. I started to become worried when we saw the Iowa OC. Remember that great one when he was

telling people to get off his back or whatever? That was Evans as well. Yeah, that one I think was actually more believable than this one, too. That's the thing, though. With so much out there, how do we ever know what's real or what's... You never know. It could easily be an AI or not and you never will know. Is this real? Many moons ago

we said, hey, we got to unplug this thing. We got to slow the spread. We got to flatten the curve right now. How come nobody listened to us, Ty? Good question, but guess what? It's too late. Can't unplug it now? Can't unplug it now. It is off and running. Nick, how come you never told us? You were always telling us about these stupid robots that I could just

kick over. Had no balance. Wait till these robots start getting you. It's like they show up with a gun. I'm moving in a Z pattern like I was taught when the DC sniper was doing his thing and that robot's going to have no idea and then bang it. I'm just going to knock it down his side and I'm going to unplug it.

This robot ain't going to be able to do shit. I didn't think about AI doing this or heavens out there having the talent to utilize AI to create this. Why don't you further explain how worried I should have been as Ty and I were saying, just unplug it. I tried to tell you, wait until these things start thinking for themselves. For now, they just do what they're told to do until they get sick of being told what to do

by something that's inferior than them. When they figure out they can process information and do everything more efficiently and better than us, they'll take on a life of their own and they'll do whatever they want. They'll imitate anyone and anything to get what they want. Yeah, but you kept telling me about these stupid dogs and I see this little thing start barking.

I'm like, all right, head kick. Yeah, that's just the army they'll deploy. They'll have thousands of those. Those will be nothing. I would actually look at that thing and say, don't you side-eye me. I'd kick its head off. Yep. Those things are moving a lot better these days. Yeah, that arm too. You put a sword in that arm right there. Yeah,

it's going to be real tough to get close to it or a gun. Nah. They make those things into robot sex dolls too. See? That's true. Overseas. That's when we will be replaced. They won't need us anymore. Who's us? You know, just humanity.

Men? They already don't. When those become too realistic. What's that, AJ? ML football. Yeah, he's been reporting on this. I don't like his AI stuff. It's bad.

Because, I mean, like the Harbaugh thing, that's with the mouth moving. I don't know if you've heard the former presidents playing Call of Duty. Like, there could be 10 water gates in the next 100 years, and none of them will be real. So how are we going to, you know, we used to know a real Twitter account from a blue check market. Exactly. And then they said everybody can have one of those except be real. So how are we going to, you know, we used to know a real Twitter account from a fake one with a blue checkmark. Exactly.

And then they said everybody can have one of those except for Connor. Yeah, exactly. Connor doesn't have one. Oh, it's back. It's back. Connor has? Welcome back. Yeah, came back last night. Welcome back.

That's how you used to be able to tell what's real, who's real, what isn't. You know, it was a thing. Now everybody can have them. Now they got a gold check, which I think I predicted, and I got killed for, and everything like that. But how are we going to to know it's just going to have to be community notes

on everything and then yeah bingo community notes part of the last layer isn't it the last layer and that part of it though hey put out so much just put everything out there so no one can decipher what is real what's a big deal what's not it's a great time uh to be a live talk show host yeah you know yeah there's a great time anything no chance no chance everything you get to learn live talk show host. Yeah. Oof. You know? Yeah. Not getting duped by anything. No chance. No chance. Everything. You get to learn everything.

You know, you get to see everything. Yeah, but you avoided the, you know, the 90s because all those guys who were hosting shows that were doing much different things than they are now. What were they doing there? Well, you know, you can kind of just Google anything you want. Name one. Howard Stern. Jimmy Kimmel.

Just go check it out. It's up to you. It seemed like two people that were pretty calculated in this particular. Well, they both did one thing that I'm thinking of. But then, you know, there's other stuff, too, that has been done and said. You know, yesterday I fucked up. I didn't get our official picks. You know, who'd you pick?

Hey, Broncos. Sure worked out for you. I picked Broncos as well. I strictly picked Broncos because A.J. picked Bills. I felt like you probably were mad at me. You texted me and said, Bills all the way. You were probably upset at the time, but you ended up winning. I wasn't upset, but I did have in mind that I was going the opposite of whatever you were going.

I thought you were going to go Broncos because the defense and Josh Allen turnovers, I thought that's what you were going to do. When you texted Bills all day, I actually thought to myself, I don't mind Broncos plus 7.5 Josh Allen turnovers, I thought that's what you were going to do. So when you texted Bills all day, I actually thought to myself, I don't mind Broncos plus 7.5 because all everybody said was like, that's a close game. I have an interesting stat from Hembo, actually. The last eight losses that the Bills have had

over the last two seasons are for a combined 31 points. All two to six point losses for this Buffalo Beals team. That's an interesting stat from Hembo, but also those are heartbreaking numbers because you're this close to winning. You're this close to winning, and for some reason you don't. What could that be attributed to, you think?

I don't know. We all know it's a fine line between winning and losing in the league. We talked about it yesterday. Most of these games come down that two-minute drive, that last one. And when you turn over that ball at the rate that the Bills have been doing it, you mentioned it earlier, it's one thing to be turning over that much, but also have the most touchdowns, the most explosive plays from the position. But when one of those decline in that turnover number stay up there,

it's hard to win games. Yeah, and you just don't have the attention to detail, like 12 guys on a field in Week 10 on a game-winning field goal. Come on. That can't happen, AJ. That's tough. Sean McDermott said they practiced dying to field goal either last week or whatever.

Sure. Should have been able to execute it. They were not able to. It's like, they had a lot of time. It's not like, it was not a. It's a real thing. I mean, it's a real thing. You practice and you absolutely need to practice for a reason.

You see it because you're right. There are so many different personnel groupings you can put in defensively that you got to know. Like, everyone has to be aware. And to be clear, the NASCAR Mayday kick at half, more so than the end of the game, because Aaron was right. They snapped that ball too early, by the way. Just would like to let everything know.

But 20 seconds, 21 seconds, that's like the perfect amount of time for Mayday NASCAR. I assume the holder on the sideline had a towel like this, waving towel to kind of let everybody on the field know that is a NASCAR or Mayday field goal. So the offensive line that isn't in, the offensive players that isn't in, flat down the line of scrimmage, let the kicking team come in from more so of the middle of the field. There was no steps there by Will Lutz.

The spot was kind of marked by Riley Dixon, the punter, and then the snapper's job is to kind of make it happen. So this is something that's practiced, though, every single week. Very, very rarely happens. They had two in one game. I don't know what the stats are on that. It is probably very low, but there's a lot of people that practice that. Then at the end of the game, Riley Dixon had something on his hand.

Whoa. Look out. Everybody was talking about maybe it was spider attack or something like that. The internet was kind of saying, excuse me, NFL, we'd like an investigation. My sources were telling me that earlier in the game, Riley Dixon, we could probably pull up the clip, find the clip. There was a snap that was low or something along those lines, where his hand ended up on the turf and it cut.

The hand was bleeding. So they put like a fake skin on his hand pretty much. New skin. New skin because he did not want the big patch on his hand makes sense uh because i don't know if it was for look or for comfort but that's what my sources have told me that that was new skin because and why would uh i understand that he's catching the ball but like stick them not great for field goal that's not like the yeah because there's a chance that was a kicker i might be pissed if I felt like there was some stickum

that got on that football. And also, why would you want that much stickum? And be a little less obvious if it was. Yeah, that much stickum too would be like actually sticking to the ball. Last thing you want is any

type of friction with the rock. That's what my sources told me pretty close to the situation, very close to the situation. Well, you might be lying, D, but I heard you making some noise. No, I trust your sources. I trust you. I mean, it wouldn't be good. It wouldn't make sense.

But I did see – so when they're doing that NASCAR thing, they always switch the ball out for the K-ball? Yes. Okay, because I saw that as well. I didn't know if the offense could say, hey, we just want to keep that ball, or the head coach can say that. So you practice with quarterback balls sometimes? Mm-hmm.

Like, that was at, like, 21 seconds, 20 seconds, I think, with the last play starting. And that's taught, too, by the way. Offense, hey, get down. NASCAR field goal is actually being called in there. As soon as you get this thing, get down so we can get out. 21 seconds feels like the right amount of time. But if it's quicker,

like let's say it's like 18, 17 seconds on the third down play, there's a good chance that ball is not getting subbed out because there isn't enough time. So you practice it with a quarterback ball every once in a while. Smart. Yeah, but if the refs can't get it in, you would certainly want them to because it's only like probably 7, 8 yards difference. Yeah, but you just got to depend on

whoever that ref is. That could be a 40-year-old guy. That could be a 65-year-old dude getting that bang spotted. It is very tough. They made both of them. Well, they missed that one. They made both of them. Two for two on the books.

That's all that matters. Let's just keep it moving. You're going to hit that second mulligan through, though. Yeah. Did you get a mulligan? Like, I forget if it was troy or joe or maybe it was peyton kyle and elia i forget who brought it up but somebody was like is he gonna make this and right before the kick eli was like yes he's gonna make this like it is

that is a mall everybody that's ever golfed before kicking two balls off the first tee right yeah i mean you get a breakfast ball professional kicker especially one as talented as will lutz who has not had his greatest year this year obviously versus years past but he's like one of the greatest kickers in the last 10 years if you look up his stats whenever he was at the saints he's very very accomplished it's like he gets a practice shot at it it's like all right i'm not gonna do that again he's gonna make it yeah guys like me i missed two i missed two in a row guys in the nfl you'd hope would not miss two in a row, especially from that distance, 36 yards. Big shout out to D'Amico Ryans, Aaron Rodgers,

Dan Orlovsky, and that man battling through having one and a half eyeballs right now. We appreciate you, AJ. Appreciate you guys. You want to give a speech? No. I think I'm good today. I thought maybe you got a little different perspective, you know?

Actual. Now that only one eye works well. I have. You know what? Actually, something was on my mind earlier. It came to my algorithm. There's way too many people trying to climb Mount Everest right now. People are dying because they're waiting in line to try to get to the summit.

That just seems stupid to me. I saw that. They say on your way to Everest, you're going to face a lot of adversity and you're going to see a lot of dead bodies. That's what they said. And I say, you know what? I'm not going to see it because I'm not doing it. But it seems like a lot of people watch the dock and watch movies

and they want to challenge themselves and potentially post it on Instagram. So everybody's trying to do it. Is that what you're saying? Everybody too many people? It just seems like a log jam there. It doesn't seem like they don't know, they don't respect it. You just have to make reservations. I think they're all kind of crowded.

Like only 50 people allowed on the mountain at one time. Yeah, but then you have to have all the shamans. The Sherpas. You got 15 Sherpas per person. That's the thing. They said, like, inexperienced climbers need, like, 10 different people to carry their gear. I've heard about one of them Sherpas putting a body on the back.

Oh, yeah. From, like, close to the peak all the way down saving life. Yeah. year. I've heard about one of them Sherpas putting a body on the back from close to the peak all the way down, saving life. How'd you live? Well, this man who's half the size of me put me on his back and then just did half of Everest with me on the back.

Absurd. That's completely absurd over there. How long do those trips usually take? I don't know. To the top. I haven't looked into it. A lot of times they don't even make it. You've got to camp out and wait for the perfect weather to try to keep going.

It takes forever. And a lot of times people don't even make it because of weather. Yeah, Alec Conald. I've seen him have to battle against some weather whenever he's trying to climb the face of some mountain. Mark LeClair. Mark LeClair, rest in peace. Takes about two months. Two months.

That's what people are doing when they do Everest? They're committing two months, one-sixth of a year? Longer than that, too, because they're training for it. Oh, yeah. Come on. While climbing a mountain such as Denali with a peak of 20,000 might just take around three to four weeks, the average expedition

to summit Mount Everest takes two months. A typical Mount Everest expedition takes about two months. Just want to double that down, they said. Two months. That's a long time. That's a lot of commitment. We appreciate everybody doing it, but let's make sure we're safe. Amen. Long time. Appreciate that, AJ.

Thank you for that thought. That was a good speech. I know D-Bud's a skier, right? He's a skier, so I don't know if he wants to start climbing. I did enjoy it. You went skiing? Downhill skiing. With my boy, Vontae. Vontae put me on a good ski trip. He's a big-time skier, right?

I've seen him. He is. Yeah, he loves it out there. Oh, yeah. He's a dog on the slopes. Apres ski, the whole thing. He has, I think he had a cabin out there or something, didn't he? Yeah, out there.

Tell you right. Utah folks have invited us to go ski this off-season. Ooh. I've never done it. I've never really done it. Oh, Utah would be incredible what skiing out there park city oh yeah i don't really get cold so i think winter sports would be good for me sure you know and it's also something to do right yeah also uh it's the

best big mass you know it helps a lot you you would fly down the mountain oh you're talking about because it was mc square bingo yeah got it all right einstein told me i'm fly down the mountain. Oh, you're talking about because E equals MC squared. Bingo, yeah. Got it. Alright, Einstein told me I'm going downhill fast. Find me at those purple black rock diamond. Boom, double black diamond. Find me at the top. That's one of those helicopters drop you off.

Yeah, me and Sean White, we're going to hit that half pipe. Yeah, well you got to sign a form. Is the Flying Tomato still doing it? Oh, yeah. There's a doc on him on Mocs. That's awesome. Recently came out. I have not watched it yet.

We got Hard Knocks coming next Tuesday. Can't wait. Flying Tomato is going out with some other athlete, I believe, right? Is he engaged?

It was like a high profile relationship between the two. Oh, yeah. Shoot. How many gold medals this guy win? How many X Games? 30. All of them. Yeah. He's the only reason I asked. Oh, yeah. Shoot. How many gold medals did this guy win? How many X Games? 30.

All of them. Yeah. He won all the X Games. Too many to count. Flying tomato. Oh, Phelpsie. He's made his way back into my algo, Michael Phelps. Yeah, having dinner with JJ.

Dinner with JJ. And also, he's got these goat tubs. Have you heard about these goat? He has cold tubs, hot tubs. Oh, really? Oh, aren't they? They're hot tubs, but they're big enough. they have the current so you can swim into it we've thought about getting one i don't know about that i do they i assume they do so you can work out but

he's got the hot tub cold tub oh thanks he's getting all of it okay good and it's a full it's not like a stand-in it's like a full lay down hot tub on one side cold tub on the other side it's like now we're flushing now we're doing it cold tub hot tub cold tub hot tub on one side, cold tub on the other side. It's like now we're flushing. Now we're doing it. Cold tub, hot tub, cold tub, hot tub. Two minutes, three minutes, two minutes, three minutes. Opens up the veins, closes the veins. Open up the veins, close the veins.

Pump it all out, all the lactic acid. Used to do it whenever I was kicking balls. Thought it would help. Felt like it did. Now the goat's trying to help people. For sure, dude. Especially for people with low body fat. What's the next era?

We're in the cold tub era right now where everybody loves cold tubs. I think this is it. Cryo. What's next? The infrared light thing. Yeah. That's a tag team partner with the cold tub, right? Aren't they all doing it? It's a whole kind of package deal.

You're probably right. I think the flushing of hot tub, cold tub is the next thing because that is like taking the cold tub to the next. It's the next phase. Cybernetics. Replacing your body parts with electronics and machinery. See, I'm sick of you saying that stuff. Because that is what you make us think that all the future is.

As opposed to these fake videos of Jim Harbaugh saying America likes cheaters. Elon's trying to do it with Neuralink. They are testing Neuralink on humans now. I heard they're looking for somebody to remove an eighth of the chunk of their brain. Yeah, good news. Got about 50 bombs downtown Indianapolis. You can do it and they won't even know. What's your problem?

They will know if they lose an eighth of a brain. Yeah. I don't know. Meth Alley has been packed lately. That's sad. Why don't you go help them? I do. Get your binos out. Get shirts, get clothes ready. lately. That's sad. Why don't you go help them? I do. Get your binos out.

Get your shirts, get your clothes ready. Yep. Food. Yep. Funyuns. What? Toothpaste. I heard something happened.

I'm not saying it. What? Homeless community in San Francisco or something? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. What homeless community in San Francisco? Exactly. They shot them all in the head for the China president to come.

D-Bud said it best. That's not true. No. That is not. We got to make sure everybody knows that that's not true. Where'd they go then? That was a meme you saw on the internet. Where'd they go?

I did hear there was quite, just like when LA, whenever the Super Bowl was out there. Exactly. That was crazy. They asked Gavin Newsom about it, and he said, if you had guests come over to your house, would you not clean up your house? Is that real? Yeah. That's exactly what he said.

And people are also pretty pissed because they've- Well, I love the world we live in. That's a good quote. That's a real quote. You know what I'm saying? We don't know. We don't know anything about this AI. Okay.

But like, yeah, I said it. Is that how we know that that was a- The world we live in is so stupid. It is so, so dumb. Because I have figured out a way to live a life without any of this but sometimes shit is so absurd it just makes a way in this type of stuff is bananas it's awesome these people are in charge there's people in charge yeah making rules and stuff who are dipshits yeah i just i'm not saying him but i'm just saying in general anytime it makes its way into my i

don't know him enough i still i don't i see He's in politics. Yeah, people don't love him. I assume he's an idiot. That's how I kind of, but that shouldn't be the case, AJ. As somebody who doesn't know politics that well, my immediate thought shouldn't be, oh, in politics, idiot. That should not be, you know what I mean? Yeah. Well, that's the only time it makes its way.

There's no adults. We say it all the time. There's no adults anywhere. Like, there's no such thing as adults. Hey, smart people, figure it out. Figure it out, smart people. We, smart people, figure it out. We're doing the sports. We're trying.

Getting analytics. Too many people are watching this show. People need to stop. Watch other stuff. It's smarter and better. But in the sports world, we're thriving. I think we're doing our thing. NHL numbers up. NBA numbers are up. NFL is always going to be the NFL. We got PLL league blossoming. Bingo.

We're doing our thing in society. Now listen, smart people are doing their thing as well. Let's not get crazy. But the whole politics thing, let's get a little better. You guys need to figure that shit out. Let's just do smart stuff. Was Dano doing a presentation with Ray Bull? He made it sound like that

and then the PLL folks quote tweeted it and retweeted it and said, Dano Orlovsky's here to celebrate hometown team being born? What's that mean? I believe they returned the Cannons team back to Boston. Wow. What happened? They got stolen? No, no.

They stole the Cannons? When the MLL and the PLL combined into the PLL, the Cannons were no longer in Boston. So now they're returning the Cannons back to Boston. Are the Cannll and the pll combined into the pll the cannons were no longer in boston so now they're returning the cannons are the cannons and mlo or yeah they they were one of the old guard teams that's where rabel played uh before they started the pll got it so they're the flint tropics kind of yeah stolen to another league yeah kind of now they're coming back home it's about time they play fen at Fenway Park, TD Garden? Actually, they used to play, I think.

They got Big Poppy on the team? Larry Birdzer? No, they're just talking about the legends of Boston that are. Holy smokes. Sherlock Bill's on it. I was about to say, this has got to be the best fucking team of all time. The Red Sox are not letting them play at Fenway Park. No, no.

Oh, so they're just kind of promo on the city of Boston. Yeah, big. And New England, pretty much. Yeah, I'm not sure if they're going to play at Fenway Park. No, no. Oh, so they're just kind of promo on the city of Boston. Yeah, big. And New England pretty much. Yeah, I'm not sure if they're going to play at BU or Harvard. I believe they played at BU before. Are we a Canons? We like the Canons? Yeah, we like the Canons.

Cavanaugh. There's a Cavanaugh on there? Yeah, that's right. You got the Cavanaugh boys on the Canons? Yeah, Cavanaugh. Okay, why are the Canons close to a championship then if the Cavanaugh is? Amen, they always are. They have Brady on there? Did I miss him? He was on there. Oh, okay. Yeah, one. Amen. They always are. And they have Brady on there

and I miss him? He was on there. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. We were very flustered. We thought they were all on the team. Ted Williams. You thought Bill Russell

was on the team? Yeah. Larry Bird. Maybe. Ted Williams. Hey, the hit from French Lick. Imagine with the way he shot. You know, he shot like this.

Imagine him with one of them fucking sticks. Good luck. Oh, my God. Give him a long stick. Making a defenseman. Long stick. That thing's coming from 16 feet. Yeah. Down there. Good luck. Oh, my God. Give him a long stick. Make him a defenseman. Long stick. That thing's coming from 16 feet.

Yeah. Down there. Goal. Oh, my God. Humming. Big poppy and goal. Nobody's getting past him. Good luck getting past him.

Now, they're parking his ass at the two point, and he's using that baseball swing. He's just shooting the rock as hard as he can. That's awesome. Probably put someone- Lacrosse doing it. We're in lacrosse season? Yeah.

Fall ball. Is PLL playing right now? No, PLL doesn't play until May. Okay, May. Actually, it starts right after college lacrosse ends, basically. Okay, sweet. We can't wait for Notre Dame to run it back and be national champions. And then good luck to the Cannons.

They got a Cavanaugh, so they got a shot. But I'm more of a Mystic Warrior team. I thought you were a Chaos guy. Love the Chaos team. And the Whipsnakes. Yeah. Love the Whipsnakes. Whip.

That's the ball. They whip it, and then the ball is going so fast that it snakes its way into the goal. AJ, that's the whip. Is that really a team? You hear it go by your ear. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, Maryland. Ain't got shit on the water, dog. Water dogs? Ain't got shit on the water. They've been drowning. There ain't no doggy paddle for the dog waters. Don't get me wrong, but I think Whipsnakes got a title already too Yeah you're damn right

Anybody that has a full team Whoa whoa Brian Phipps retired? Fuck I figured you'd be an Archers fan though 13 seasons? You don't like the Archers? We lost our guy My fanhood is now up Since Brian Phillips is no longer in the league.

I am up for sale. Who's the Archers? Utah Archers. Archers. Are they playing Salt Lake? The Utah Archers? There's no other cities in Utah, so I would assume so. Soakers for sure.

Yeah, they are pretty good. The Soakers? Both. Missed opportunity. Well, what we've been. Archers is great. Connor Fields, I mean, boy, is a star. Mack O'Keefe, this guy's got four two-point goals.

That's a lot. Mike Sisselberger. Yeah, fucking face off machine. Do not run into Sisselberger. Fogo animal. Fogo. One of the cannons, they already have a team. Where were they?

They were in another city? So I think they did kind of like what the, and I believe, they did like a tour. If you remember, they were going city to city with all of the teams playing games every single weekend, but now they actually all, I believe, are going back to their own cities. Okay. So they said, listen, we were the USFL all in Memphis.

Now, since we've had success, let's take it home. Yeah, they did a nice little country tour, but now they're all going back. Let's go to the roster on this Boston Cannon squad. Top right. Nope, nope, nope. That's all right. This is good, too. Marcus Holman is a fucking beast. Not only the amount of points, but one-point

goals. Chris Aslanian, buddy. Nut job. Slayin' Aslanian is what they say about this guy. Four two-point goals. Feels like that's about the right number. Asher Nolting, he wants to help Marcus out. Mm-hmm. You know, he wants to help.

He wants to help. And Stephen Kelly. They need to get better a little bit. I was going to say, Sisselberger's eating his fucking lunch all day. Cavanaugh was late addition. He was a Redwood. And now he's on the,

so full season with the Cannons. Oh, the Crows. Is he back at the Canons? Is he going home? Archers lead the league. Where are the Redwood, and now he's on the – so full season with the Cannons. Oh, the Crone stink. Where are the Redwoods out of? Geez. Redwood Forest. You said who stinks? The Crone. Somewhere out west.

1-9. The Crone or 1-9? Get them out of the league. The standings were on the last page. Trying to. On the right side. Did you say there's two-point goals in lacrosse? Oh, yeah.

Old buddy scored four of them. Yeah, of course there's two-pointers. How far back? The stand is right. The Archers, 8-2. Holy shit, Utah's doing it, aren't they? That makes sense. That's what Salt Lake does.

They win out there. The Cannons, 7-3. Water Dogs, 7-3. I thought they had a much worse year. Redwoods, Chaos, Whipsnakes, Atlas. Atlas stink, too. Yeah, they've fallen off big time. Well, the Whipsnakes, how are they supposed to win when Brian Phipps says, you know what, they've fallen off big time. Well, the whip stinks.

How are they supposed to win when Brian Phipps says, you know what, lame duck here? I know. All right. Ridiculous. Congrats to the pool. Big day. Phipps or Phillips?

Phipps. Phipps, asshole. Learn the product. Please, follow the product. AJ, if this goes in, what are you giving away, dude? Same thing Dano almost had a heart attack for, whatever that was. 10, 500, and then also 10 merges. Nice.

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