The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1017 - Deshaun Watson Officially Out For The Year, Trenches Wednesday With Adam Schefter, The General Bob Carpenter's Top 10, JJ Watt, Top Dolla AJ Francis, Tre Johnson, AQ Shipley and Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 15, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the breaking news that Deshaun Watson is officially out for the rest of the season after breaking a bone in his shoulder in the 2nd quarter on Sunday, what that means for the Browns moving forward, and every thing else happening around the sports world as we gear up for week 11 of the NFL season. Joining the progrum to give more clarity to the Deshaun Watson situation, what the Browns might do, and everything else we need to know injury wise in the NFL (9:15-25:38). Next, The General, Bob Carpenter, unveils his top 10 for the college football rankings and the College Football Playoff (37:02-56:01). Later, future Hall of Famer, Houston Texans Ring of Honor member, 3x DPOY, countless Pro Bowls and All-Pro’s, JJ Watt joins the show to chat about his biggest takeaways from week 10 of the season, and his desire to potentially get back on the sidelines (1:00:48-2:01:41). Later, 6 year NFL veteran on the defensive line, former WWE Superstar Top Dolla, AJ Francis joins the show to chat about his upcoming canned food drive at the Michigan vs. Maryland game to benefit Sara’s House (https://www.sarashouse.org/) (2:01:47-2:08:23). Lastly, the number 1 Shooting Guard in the nation, Tre Johnson joins the show to officially announce his college commitment for next year (2:22:24-2:25:08). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this beautiful Trenches Wednesday, November 15th, 2023. This program starts right now. Football! It's happening. Massive news broke this morning about the Cleveland Browns starting quarterback who was given the biggest guaranteed contract in the history of the NFL. He will be down for the rest of the year as Deshaun Watson will be having surgery on a broken bone in his shoulder that happened in the first quarter of a game in which he went 14-14 in the second half of and came back and got a huge win over the Baltimore Ravens.

He is now out. We will be talking to the man that broke the news, Adam Schefter, in about 10 minutes or so. I can't wait to dive in to see how we got here. This is something that none of us could have fathomed, especially when the 230 was given to Deshaun whenever he got to Cleveland. He's only 12 games into this entire thing. I think he's making $7 million a game at this point. It is wild.

I don't know how the Browns view it. I don't know how the Browns fans view it. But hopefully Deshaun will get healthy. He'll be back next year. And I'm sure there won't be another round of Ruston who have to get off and have to get better and everything. This is not going how they planned. But health is one thing.

We'll see how serious it all is when Schefter joins us in nine minutes. I'm not alone. I'm very lucky to be here with a great group of dudes. Stallions. Lads, if you will. The Toxic Table. Bostock Connor and Ty Schmidt. Conman. Yeah. I've seen this one before. The Toxic Table, Boston Connor and Ty Schmidt. Con Man.

Yeah. I've seen this one before. Yeah, yeah. This is actually, this is an old one. This is before every day. It's the one. Yeah, circa 2020, perhaps, I would say. But yeah, this is one of my favorites.

Long sleeve. Oh, this is a way back Wednesday. Yeah, way back Wednesday. There you go. He took the words right out of my mouth. With Watt coming on, too. Are you kidding me? Way back Wednesday with Watt.

Way back Wednesday? What? Gold teeth. Just figured bringing the gold, kind of like a grill. You need to brush your teeth. Well, it might be. They look like Austin Powers, like a British, where they didn't believe in brushing their tooths.

Yeah, that stuff's gross, but I do believe this tiger might have nice hygiene. I think they're shiny gold teeth, not gold from drinking piss or anything. Okay, good. You're happy they're not drinking piss, coffee gold from drinking piss or anything. Okay, good. You're happy they're not drinking piss, coffee, iced tea, or none of that. Ty, I can't wait to chit-chat about college basketball later in the show. We've got a couple guests coming on the third hour in the college basketball world

that I think is going to be surprising. Yeah. I think it's going to be surprising for a lot of people. Keep it as a surprise. Yeah. But basketball is happening, Ty. Do you know that? Oh, yeah, Absolutely. This is always

the time in the college basketball season too where you get excited because you get big-time marquee matchups. Next week, Thanksgiving week, they always call it Feast Week. A lot more marquee matchups. Oh, yeah. It's great. It's great. Football should have had that a long time ago. They should have. That's a good name. But it was also weird, too, because

I was waiting last night like, hey, when's the college football playoff show going to be coming on and then it's like oh well actually they're kind of getting time constrained into having to do it in between tip off of one game and the finish of another game so you know it's it's crazy but a lot of good college basketball a lot of good college football right now college sports are you know really heating up right now tank top wearing dumb ass that hosts a show on ESPN every single day. Should have known that college football playoff release of the top 25 was not at 7 p.m. I had no idea.

And I was going to be watching college basketball. I thought they were maybe taking a week off. I was watching Kansas-Kentucky all of a sudden. I'm like, oh, okay. I did not know this was taking place. Probably should have. They were calling it the State Farm. State Farm Champions Classic.

Bonanza. Yeah, it was awesome. We had Kansas, Kentucky, Duke, Michigan State. Now Michigan State gets their asses handed to them. Whoa, whoa, whoa. By James Madison in week one or whatever, the first game. So they were ranked like 19th. But that was supposed to be all top nine matchups to kind of launch into a big conversation.

So I was pretty pumped watching it. Got some dogs out there on the court. Yeah, absolutely. And then the college football playoff came. One half of the hammer. Died. Cowboys tone digs between that. Big move at the top. Ohio State now two-tone. Georgia, the reigning, defending, undisputed,

back-to-back national champions. Shout out to Paul Heyman there. His number one, Ohio State's two. They beat the hell out of Ole Miss. I mean, with all eyes on them. Game day down there, obviously. This was the first test for Georgia since winning a national championship again in L.A. when they beat them by 55 points with the whole world watching.

And Carson Beck delivered. They delivered. And the college football playoff committee rewarded them by putting them up at one. Ohio State's at two. Michigan, three. Florida State's still at four, even though Washington has had quite a run.

Washington's the first one out of the college football playoff at this exact moment. Oregon's still the best one-loss team in the ranking, which makes sense. Dan Lanning has come out and said that people that think that I want to leave Oregon don't understand what Oregon has to offer for its family and for facilities and what the boosters get.

Basically said, the reason why people want me to go coach other places is because we're doing good here. And people that want me to leave here don't understand what we have here. He gave a really impassioned speech that said, some people don't want to say this because they don't want to kind of look like idiots whenever they decide to leave. But, like, I'm talking, my team deserves to hear me say, like, I love this place. So it feels like Oregon and Dan Lanning are really catching their stride.

They are not a team anybody would want to face. But whenever they get down to the final four-tone, it's going to be difficult. And these rankings do matter because these are setting the tone for whenever they do come here a few weeks from now. Yeah, they 100% matter. And, you know, I saw a lot of upset Ohio State fans last night being like, what did they do wrong? It's not what about they did. They did wrong.

Okay. Georgia just kind of, you know, the score seemed a little closer than I think it was against Mizzou. And then they just put it on Ole Miss, who was number nine and number 13 there. And Ohio State, you know, their big wins, Penn State and Notre Dame, are they looking that great anymore? Yeah, those wins have certainly changed, but Ohio State has looked better. So, it's not really their fault

either as it's gone in there, but it's not, it's never a what do we do wrong. Every week is America's Got Talent. Every week you have a chance to put on a show. Florida State's going to have to, I think in the end, they're going to have to do some stuff, because you've got a lot of people going, show. Florida State's going to have to, I think in the end, they're going to have to do some stuff because you've got a lot of people going, how's Florida State in there over Washington?

Because the ACC, nowhere near as powerful as the Pac-12. But I think it's all an eye test. It was awesome. But that's the only reason why I knew college basketball was happening last night. Should have known that. Great games, college football playoff, another great game. Excited to talk college basketball in the third hour. Excited to get back to NFL football, too, because there's big news coming out of it.

Not only do we have a nine-year NFL vet hosting a man-to-man podcast and everything DB yesterday, which was flawless. He also hosts a matchup, an NFL matchup. That's right. Which is on ESPN 8, Nguente. Classic. ESPN News. ESPN News, ESPN U, ESPN Plus.

Great show with Sal Powell and Greg Cosell. Bingo. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butler. Also ESPN and ESPN2. That's awesome. At 3 a.m. We see it. I've become like a little bit of a night owl, you know,

just so I can watch this matchup program, just so I can continue to watch you do your thing. You're fantastic at it. You're not the only NFL vet that's here, obviously. We have a bald-headed man who was once 320 pounds, now 240 pounds. He certainly looks better and more healthy, but a lot of people say he looks weaker. That can't be true, though, because he signs up to do a fight camp in the basement of a billionaire in Arizona every single week, even though doctors have told him that he could potentially be paralyzed if he takes a bump wrong. He's stupid, but he's smart at football. Ladies and gentlemen,

Penn State's own Super Bowl champion, A.Q. Shipley. What's up, guys? Let's go. Hey, good to see you. Mustache looks fantastic. Your body's continuing to come together. I know you've been fighting over there. Big storyline for you coming out of this for Week 10? Week 10 is the San Francisco 49ers are not dead. Trent Williams is back. That's a big deal, I think. I actually made the pick of that game. I said, if Trent Williams is playing, I'm on the Niners. If he's

not playing, I'm on the Jags. I think it's a whole different team whenever that guy's playing. Not only leading them on the field, but when he's on the field. Is that what you're seeing as well, as a big guy talking about the trenches? I say this all the time. One person matters, not only leading him on the field, but when he's on the field. Is that what you're seeing as well, is a big guy talking about the trenches? I say this all the time. One person matters, not only on the offensive line, everywhere. And the biggest thing that matters most is when the best offensive lineman in the NFL comes back.

And he made a huge difference. I mean, I got a great play later. I got a great play. Trent Williams doing his thing? I mean, Trent's always doing his thing. So if it's a play with the Niners, it involves Trent. Okay, well, we can't wait to dive into that. We appreciate you joining us.

We'll have Adam Schefter joining us in about a minute. Actually, he just joined us, which is perfect news. This morning, we were working out in the Hawk House. Having a good old time, chit-chatting about life, talking about college basketball. College football playoffs happened. Oh, Thursday night football got a good one. Those conversations are happening.

And then all of a sudden, Gumpy goes, pals, Deshaun Watson out for the rest of the year. Excuse me? That makes no sense at all. Yeah, he's getting surgery, broken bone in his shoulder. It's like, what happened in the second half? Did this happen after the game? Did he get into a car crash? What happened to his...

He said, no, it happened in the first quarter, actually. He was like, damn, he played his best football in the second half. We saw Deshaun Watson that we had been hoping for since he got out of Houston and he was a top five player. Now, all of a sudden, he's out for the year. Cleveland Browns fans got to be thinking, of course, of course, joining us now is the guy that broke the news, senior NFL insider for ESPN,

friend of the program, Michigan man. I don't remember that. That's right. I'm Schefter. Yeah, Schefter. How you doing, Schefter? Gentlemen, what's going on? Well, I just kind of explained what was going on this morning.

You changed the entire vibe of our entire workout and our entire building. I want to let you know that. With one tweet, Browns quarterback Sean Watson wanted to go season-ending surgery on a broken bone in his throwing shoulder. This led to so many conversations like, wow, how, when? He was just playing his best ball. Did the Browns think that this was potentially coming? How long ago did they know that they could be without Deshaun Watson after winning the game in the fashion that they did on Sunday? Well, what happened was he hurt the shoulder in the second quarter and he stayed in the game. So he played the rest of the game, two and a half

quarters with a fractured shoulder and a high ankle sprain. And then after the game, they ran some tests. And it was very interesting because Monday and Tuesday, there was a lot of silence. And when there's a lot of silence when you're calling people and they're not returning calls, you get the sense that something is amiss. And obviously the news came down after he had tests and doctors were able to review the scans. It was very clear he needs surgery on that shoulder. Otherwise, he would have risked doing a lot more damage to it. So he's having the season-ending surgery. The Browns general manager, Andrew Berry, said before that Deshaun Watson was willing and able to try to play through it, but doctors said you just can't do

that right now. And so he's going to have the surgery. They're figuring out when to do it. and you just can't do that right now. And so he's going to have the surgery. They're figuring out when to do it. He'll be back for the start of next season, but he's gone for this season. And again, he played the remainder of that game, two and a half quarters,

completed 14 of 14 passes in the second half with a shoulder injury that now needs surgery. It was the best football we've seen him play, too, since, you know, everything, pretty much. It was old-school Deshaun Watson. He was running, running he was throwing he was all the way back i assume cleveland browns fans were like yep here we go now we go especially with that defense this not coming out till wednesday tells me numerous tests monday a bunch of test scans then we did follow up second opinion third opinion and everybody had all the doctors basically said yeah i gotta get surgery here that's basically the deal and essentially they all were in agreement and the Browns obviously wanted to wait till this

morning. I'm sure they probably wanted to tell the team, assemble them this morning and give everybody the news before it came out. And so that's the situation. And now they move forward without them. And, you know, you feel bad for the city because the Browns are six and three. They're making room for the playoffs. It's the first time we may see four teams from one division all make the playoffs. Cleveland was compelling. Like, had a legitimate chance to go far. Not that it can't go far. Now, it can, because the strength of this

team is its defense, but it's not the same when you don't have your starting quarterback who you paid all that money to and gave you the best chance to win. And, you know, with Cleveland, it's just like you can't have nice things because just when they're rolling along, this happens. Hey, they got that Jack's Casino downtown.

That place is real nice. Great stories, has a lot of winners out there. They got that beautiful view of the lake. You know, there's a lot of nice stuff in Cleveland. But the Browns have not returned the favor to the city because of bad luck and misfortune. This feels like another page in that very long book for the cleveland browns now what's next darius has a question for you chef d yeah i saw another report come out that

it's going to be a dtr it's going to be starting quarterback and not pj walker uh is that true number one and uh why is that if that's the case it's tracking that way and kevin stefanski is going to talk to the media at one o'clock today i think that's the the plan. Now, whether they actually go through or not, we'll see. But I think it's going to wind up being Dorian Thompson Robinson. And the reason is because he has been the backup for much of the season. And the last time he started in that game when Deshaun went through pregame warm-ups, hoping and thinking that he was going to play, only to find out about 90 minutes before the game that he wasn't going to be able to go,

they didn't have the time and the energy to kind of train Dorian Thompson-Robinson and get them ready for that game the way they would like. They know this news in advance. So they now get the full week to prep him, a rookie quarterback. And I think we've seen PJ Walker come in and do a nice job. There've been some turnovers there. And I think that they feel like the ceiling with Dorian Thompson Robinson is higher. When he played the summer, he was very impressive. Very impressive. He came out in that one start though and looked lost. But again, it was like a week without practice as a starting quarterback. It's a tough spot to put a rookie in. And I think they think that by him going through the whole week of practice,

assuming it goes well, taking the reps with the one, that he would be able to start and give them a better chance to win. Well, that also leads to this question from Ty. Yeah, Shefty, although he didn't play great last week, it looks like it's Will Levis' job in Tennessee. Is there any chance that a guy like Tannehill, who probably knows that he's not going to be the quarterback in tennessee moving forward maybe like ask for his release and

sees a situation like this and potentially goes and signs with the browns for kind of the stretch run here or any other vets that are available right yeah well here's the issue there first and foremost um the browns general manager andrew, made it very clear this morning that they are focused on the two guys on their roster, which is Dorian Thompson Robinson and P.J. Walker. They're going to add a third quarterback, but it sounds like it's like a practice squad addition. Now, that doesn't mean that there couldn't be another scenario. They asked him about other quarterbacks and other rosters. The issue with that is Tannehill makes a lot of money. I think he had like $13.5 million up in his contract off the top of my head, a big number. And so any

veteran quarterback would have to pass through waivers. You would think that they probably would go unclaimed because the teams might not be willing to take on that contract. And then he would be free. You have to learn the whole offense. You have to pay him. You have to figure it all out. It's a lot to get through. Andrew Barry did not make it sound like that's the way they were thinking this morning. And again, with a guy like Tannehill or any other guy, they'd have to go through the waiver process first. And then who knows if somebody might be willing to claim the guy just to prevent the Browns from getting him because the Browns would be low on the waiver order with a 6-3 record. Interesting.

I didn't even think about that. That is certainly a little chess strategy that other people could play. You know who they had on their roster? Who's that? John Dobbs. The Pasternaut. Oh, yeah. And you could actually drop him in in one week.

That's a shame. And he could just learn the whole offense. You know, I want to go back to this. It's interesting because the week before the trade deadline, there were questions about whether Deshaun was going to be able to play. And the Browns were discussing whether or not to go trade for another quarterback like, say, Jacoby Brissett. His name had been out there. And the issue that they felt at that time was that because they didn't know when Watson would be back they

felt it would be another week or two at the most so they wouldn't be in a situation where it was worth trading for a guy giving up a pick and bringing him in for the remainder of the season at that point in time but now we're past the trade deadline by a couple of weeks yeah so if the trade deadline were two weeks ago now maybe you go make a move for a guy like jacoby brissett who knows the outfits but we're not so that's passed so now you're leaning on the two guys on your roster yeah and i don't know how many picks they had to give up i mean remember the move they made to get to sean and i hate to bring this up to browns fans you know sure 230 million dollars most guaranteed ever salary cap you do what you gotta do of course is and also it's, sealed, delivered for Deshaun's side,

not like Cleveland's. That is a very pro. Mulageta did his thing. Mulageta was in his bag whenever he did that particular contract. And shout out to, hey, way to go, Mulageta. Good work. We appreciate you. But the Browns gave up a lot, a lot for this entire thing.

So for it to go the way it's going, especially with how he looked on Sunday, that's highest highs. Okay, we gave up all this to get a guy who cares. Now we have a chance to go on a run out for the rest of the season. It's a bummer. It's a bummer, but I can't wait to see him back. Godspeed out there, pal. It's a totally new injury, too.

That's the whole thing is that he played with the rotator cuff. He played with the ankle. We knew that he aggravated the ankle on Sunday. Godspeed, Dr. Powell. second quarter that knocked him out. So, I mean, I have no idea if there's any connection or correlation between what he had and what he suffered, but it was a totally new injury. Did I see those numbers right there? Mm-hmm. Big numbers. Sheesh. Buddy. New bone in his shoulder, though, for that 64 mil.

That's right. He's going to have a little steel in there. Mm-hmm. All right. We saw on Sunday. Now he's going to have to restart the build back process do that oh tough so unlucky can't wait to see what they end up doing next let's move to a different subject because there's a little bit of news i think good connor yeah

shefty fields coming back to play for the bears with the thumb injury that he sustained a few weeks ago is he playing for his job there is he trying to prove that he is the guy with the Bears, especially with them having two picks in the top five right now? Or is he safe? Are they definitely going to go with him next year? No, he's not safe. When you have the two picks like that and they're positioned to be high picks, I think everybody knows that he has to prove something to them this year. And that's part of the reason they want to get him back on the field and see what he could do and by the way like either he's your quarterback or he's playing well and maybe you're trading him somewhere else to a team that doesn't get one of these top quarterbacks in the draft and so we'll see how they handle it but clearly yes with all the draft capital that they have

there's a lot on the line for justin fields here town chef the uh the news of the week or after the weekend was not now it's sean but before that ken dorsey gettingfty, the news of the week or after the weekend was, not now with Deshaun, but before that, Ken Dorsey getting fired as the OC of the Buffalo Bills. Was it strictly football? Because their offensive numbers aren't terrible if you take out all the fumbles and the

interceptions, which the OC does not control. Was it more than that? Was there relationship issues with the quarterback or team or anything like that? What is going on in Buffalo, strictly besides just the on-the-field losses that have happened? I think when you make a decision like that, there's a lot that goes into it. And I think that largely in this business, it's a results-oriented business. And that offense, what did we say on Monday? You asked me, Pat.

You said to me, what are we going to see? I said, the Bills are off. Right? Didn't I say that to you on Monday? They have not looked the same. And it wasn't like they went out Monday night and all of a sudden didn't play well, didn't look right. It's been that way all season long. You just watch them.

The offense isn't cohesive. It's not flowing the right way. Something's up. Something's up. Yeah. It just doesn't look right. It hasn't looked right. And so that was a continuation of it.

And yes, there were other mistakes. Believe me, it was not just the offense that night. There was the pass interference. There were the 12 men on the field. There were a lot of things. It's just looked off there. And so ultimately in the end, Sean McDermott makes the decision. there are the 12 men on the field there are a lot of things it's just looked off there and so ultimately in the end Sean McDermott makes the decision he says it was only his decision to fire

Ken Dorsey yesterday I mean this league is unbelievable the drama that it produces on a daily basis keeps you and me and everybody in business because it's the greatest reality show going so they make the decision to fire this offensive coordinator uh obviously I think it's the greatest reality show going. So they make the decision to fire this offensive coordinator. Obviously, I think it's largely results-driven. Are there other factors? Potentially. I don't know the answer to that off the top of my head. But they're not getting the results they want.

The offense hasn't looked right. And now they're making a change. And we'll see how it works out with Joe Brady calling the plays here. So Dan Orlovsky admitted yesterday that he's no longer like what he once was. When he was a young buck, he would get on ESPN with a suit, have a little iPad there, do his thing and say, this guy needs to be fired. Yeah. This guy needs to be fired

as well. Take his kids out of the school that they're in in that city and send them through another one. Sorry. This guy needs to be fired. He said he used to do that. He has changed man because he got a chance to meet one of the coaches face to face that he said that about and he had a whole come-to-Jesus moment, I believe is what he said. Yep.

Okay, so I don't want to be a human that does that. We are just purely speculation. Okay, that's all we do, observe and report. We're in the day-to-day. You talk about how the NFL keeps us in business. Amen. So with what's happened with the Bills and what's happening with the Bills

and with where the rest of the AFC is, and I know that Brandon Bean has been very loyal to Sean McDermott and the other way around you fire a coordinator Leslie Frazier gone like is the head coach what what happens like Sean McDermott very comfortable as a Buffalo Bill head coach is that what we're thinking no matter what here's what I would say to that I think they changed their defensive coordinator in the offseason they changed their offensive coordinator in the offseason. They changed their offensive coordinator in season. If they don't get the results they want, I'm sure they're going to look at everybody here.

At some point in time, there's no other people to get rid of. It's just, to me, some basic common sense that Sean McDermott knows the pressure's on him, and he's got to put up with a team that a lot of people thought had Super Bowl capabilities, that hasn't performed the way that many people thought, that has struggled recently to regain the form that many people thought they'd have. And there's a lot of season left, and they've got time to rebound. But I think he knows the pressure's on. Everybody's watching them. Everybody's watching them right now. Yeah, the AFC East has become terrible to watch on TV, first of all.

But then also, like, storylines everywhere. Bill Belichick, what? He's gone? McDermott, what's happening there? Jets team players. Players-only meetings? Players-only meetings in New York? Like, it's wild over there in the AFC East right now. The AFC East, it is kind of interesting.

Usually, we're not getting this kind of drama from all these teams in one division. But look at the AFC North. We thought as of about 8 a.m. this morning, all four teams would be going to the playoffs maybe. And I still think there's a decent chance, but the probability of that now isn't as high, and with the Browns taking it, well, maybe that opens the door to a team like

the Texans or the Jets. If the Jets can get it together and make it enticing for your friend to come back here in mid-December, that'd be great to see. So we'll just see, but the AFC North sending all those teams to play, it's not aDecember. That'd be great to see. We'll just see. The AFC North sending all those teams to play, it's not a lock anymore. Did anybody have a clue?

Any of the players have a clue? You said the team wanted to maybe tell the players before they told publicly. We appreciate that. Did players after that big-time win the celebration? Hey, we're having a good time. We just did this whole thing. You guys have been in there. You know this works. I think sometimes a player knows, my shoulder's not it. We just did this whole thing. You know, look, you guys have been in there. You know this works.

I think sometimes a player knows, okay, well, my shoulder's not right. I got to go get it checked out. But he's not expecting to get that news. I don't think anybody. The way that game went, I don't think anybody was just like, I don't know. I don't know what the conversations were like afterwards in the locker room or not. No, no. In fact, I was reaching out this week about his ankle because again he went

out of the game he he took off one play left the game briefly came back for the ankle like no idea that the shoulder was fractured in that game and you knew that he had the lingering issue of course with the rotator but this is a separate injury so it's just one of those gut punches to the city of cleveland to the browns organization that's been through so much. And here they go. They lose their starting quarterback now and have to lean on these other guys to get them to the playoffs. Defense is good enough to do it.

Well, thank you for dropping a tweet and changing the entire narrative of the conversation of the NFL. Well, Pat, it's not me. It's the NFL. You can always count on the NFL producing something. As the great columnist for the New York Times, Red Smith, used to say, God will provide. And the NFL always provides something. As the great columnist for the New York Times, Red Smith, used to say, God will provide. And the NFL always provides

something that changes the narrative and produces some sort of topic to talk about for the rest of the day, whether it's Ken Dorsey being fired yesterday or Deshaun Watson

having season-ending shoulder surgery today. There's always, and tomorrow will be something else and the next day will be something else and that's what the NFL does.

Do you call the NFL God is going to get us a write-up in some sort of blog somewhere? Are we in trouble again? Thank you, Shefty. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider to ESPN, Adam Shefter. Thank you, NFL. Real deal. Deshaun Watson not there.

Interesting. I thought he was playing his best ball. And they said they wanted to tell the team before they told the public. I don't think the team had any idea. You know what I mean? I don't think anybody, especially after that game, that would be wild. The way he played in the second half. So good. Adrenaline. We all been there. Toradol. Yeah, adrenaline, Toradol.

You know, they said it happened in the first quarter, right? Second quarter. Second quarter, yeah. So I'm sure he probably got some medicine in there at halftime. But then once it wears off, you start getting those scans, tests. And then, like you said, he went and got probably his second, third opinion. But, yeah, definitely a gut punch with the way he was playing, how that defense has been playing all year long.

Run game has kind of been coming along. So it sucks for Cleveland right now. Yeah, let's talk about the run game real quick. What is the Cleveland Browns run game? Are they just going to be able to rely upon that no matter who's quarterback? I mean, they might have to go 50 rounds a game at this point. Michigan football against... I mean, it's incredible.

How about Michigan just saying, this team's got no grit. We're just going to run the ball 35 straight times. Easy game. 35 straight times. Hey, JJ, you need to throw the ball? Don't even think about it. We're just going to beat up this team in this team's stadium. Oh my God!

If they told you before that game J.J. McCartney was going to throw for 67 yards, who do you think wins that game? You tell me. Not Penn State. Not Penn State. Dude, could you fathom? Demoralizing. They never win. Demoralizing. I'd rather you throw for 500 yards than just hand

it off 30 times in a row. In a row? At what point do you think they go, alright, I think, and just hand it off 30 times in a row? In a row. At what point do you think they go, all right, I think we should pack the box. I think we should potentially get down in there. And then what happened? Did we get rid of offense coordinator? No. Yeah.

Fired the offense coordinator. Can't stop the run. 10-2. Can't beat Michigan, Ohio State every year. Same old, same old. Keep it moving. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, we are are Penn State so there's another hardball that's talking uh John you know he exists as well he's won a Super Bowl with the Baltimore Ravens his coach there a long time is one of the staples of the NFL now at this point and of that entire

city and team he gave this nice promo about his brother that i heard on the internet and uh do we have the video hey i'll tell you what i have a lot of respect for this dude john harbo yeah he was the coach uh whenever i was at the pro bowl no big deal yeah a couple times made it thanks should have made it more got screwed a couple times but that's story of everybody in the nfl i have a lot of respect for this dude the way he talked about his brother and how he handled this thing almost led me to believe, yeah, Jim had no clue what was going on. Listen to John chit-chat about his brother, Jim Harbaugh, and how he's kind of viewing his brother in light of everything that's going on in Michigan right now. John, off topic a little bit, when's the last time you spoke to your brother? 10K camera?

Yeah, it's very good. Do you have any opinion on everything that he's dealing with and what's going on in Michigan? Yeah, I've talked to him quite a bit. I have a lot of opinions on his brother. I'm proud as heck of him. I'm really impressed with the way he's handled himself through all this. And it's been a long run.

And about everything can be done to him. His phones, his computers, and all the stuff we've been looked at. And he's come through this thing with flying colors. And they really have, you know, I don't know what they're trying to get, but they don't have anything of substance, and I just think I'm proud of them. I think it's a real compliment to our family and to him, something for us to be proud of because, and his kids can see this. You know, you get kind of in this kind of situation where you come under fire for whatever reasons,

and you come out in a really good place doing the right thing all the time. And I'm really proud of that, and I think it's great for a family, kids, and it's just a great blessing in that sense. He's a great man. He's a great coach. His players love him. His coaches love him. And he stands tall through all this.

I know you've got to get through Thursday, but knowing the schedule and their schedule. This is an awesome thought. Saturday, do you have plans to go to the game? If this goes the way it went last week, would you watch it with him? Yeah, that's a lot of good questions. I don't know. I don't know.

Let's get through Thursday night and see where we're at, but I'll definitely be pulling for him and the whole team on Saturday for sure. But, yeah, we're thinking about Thursday night. Would be awesome if he coaches Michigan on Saturday. So cool. Would that not be? He needed to have it. Guest coach John Harbaugh for the Michigan Wolverine.

That would be hilarious. That would be the best Harbaugh move that has happened, even though there's a lot of great Harbaugh moves that have been happening here over the last couple. What he brought up I don't think a lot of us hardball moves that have been happening here over the last couple. What he brought up, I don't think a lot of us has thought about. Me, more specifically. I don't think I knew. They looked into his phones, into his computers, into everything.

And they weren't able to land that he ever had a clue that Connor Stallion was potentially doing this rogue agent stuff. And hearing him talk about it. Now, he's going to have to do that because it's his brother. I would assume he would feel obligated to do as such. But I think hardball was like, our family is coaches. My dad was a coach. So whenever these allegations were being tossed at not only – it was being tossed at our whole family. And him saying, they investigated pretty much our whole family.

We don't – he had no idea that's not the way he is. His players love him. His coaches love him. I'm like listening to that. I'm like, hell yeah. You know what? You're right, John. You are right in this entire thing.

Now he reaped the benefits of Connor Stallion knowing the signal is better than anybody else. But unbeknownst to him, he did. So it's like with what Jim Harbaugh has been saying in the microphones over the last couple of days, his best shit. So good. He's been delivering stand-up comedy special material over the last three days in this entire thing and then hearing john talk about the process a little bit more for jim and his whole family consider me a jim hardball mark at this particular point we said last week that they should switch spots and uh let john coach michigan and jim coach the ravens but also uh our guy uh biff from charlotte oh yeah

billionaire coach he came out a few days ago and was like, no one knows Jim better than I do besides his family. And if he was doing this, I would know. And he's like one of the best men I've ever known. So everyone around that camp is starting to come out and be like. So are we all just at the point where Jim didn't know this was – he might have – there might have been a couple where he's, you know. Yeah, stop talking. A couple of these where he just like stayed out of it. But I we all kind of have a general belief that jim might not have known

rogue agent that connor stallions in an effort to attempt uh to impress 500 page jim i would assume yeah in an effort to prove his worth and his value to michigan because he's not a football player he's not a coach what does he do well i get signals let me be the best in the world at getting signals and going all the way in. Jim didn't know. I think that's where I'm at, and I have 100% belief in that until showing anything other than that. And I'm right there with you. I didn't know they went through phones and computers and all that shit.

But, I mean, I don't think you know. And the first time you heard, I feel like when it first started making its waves and you heard different coaches speak on it, they were like, oh, you know, it's not football. Everybody's still signaling. So maybe Jim thought the same thing. Like, hey, this guy's doing that, but he's not going and making it as an elaborate scheme as he's been doing. But, yeah, I'm right there with you when it comes to Jim.

Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty telling too because John could have just been like, hey, no comment, I don't want to talk about this. It's like we're focused on Thursday. But for him to, you know, actually, I mean, again, it's his brother, so it's not like he's going to bury him. But the more stuff that comes out, I think it is very evident that Connor Stallion was just very overzealous. And he, like you said, he's a Michigan fanboy.

Why'd he do that, Ty Peet? Well, again, this guy is a Michigan fanboy who wants to be a Michigan man. And he's a low-level staffer. He's not making a lot of money but maybe he thought hey if i impress coach harbaugh enough then you know i can kind of move up the food chain maybe i become a recruiting coordinator or you know uh uh you know involved in the football ops aspect as opposed to just you know going to these other sidelines and stealing signs so it seems like this guy's a bit of a wacko who kind of got over out his skis a little too far.

And yeah, I don't think Jim Harbaugh is saying, hey, Connor, need you to go to Central Michigan and wear a goofy disguise and these glasses with recording devices. I don't think that's the case at all. It does certainly seem that Jim Harbaugh may have gotten railroaded in this whole situation. Connor, what were your thoughts on it?

I mean, as someone who doesn't have a college football team in the race, I was indifferent towards Michigan like a month ago. Then two weeks ago, hated Michigan because of how – Me too. I was like, oh, you guys have it all. You have like a $500 million facility. Finally beat Ohio State twice. Back-to-back years, once in their building.

I completely hated Michigan just because of how much we talked about it. How come? Just because I didn't like them. It wasn't the guy in the back sitting there. Yeah, possibly fake Michigan men becoming Michigan men for sure, but Bruce has been a Michigan fan his whole life. That is true. But now, after hearing the coaches Debo brought up

and John speak about it and Jim speak about it, I want Michigan to win the national championship. Yeah, I'm sitting there watching that John Harbaugh video, and once again, I have to say this. Massive respect for John Harbaugh. Everybody that has ever... As I'm listening, and I kind of forgot... I don't want to say I forgot they were brothers, but

that Harbaugh family coaching thing, like Lord Pratt and coaching. Big deal. That is what they have. Hearing John talk about that, I'm like, yeah, you know what jim did get screwed yeah jay because i don't know how many people are working for the team but it's not just jim that got screwed these kids yep kids got screwed yeah big time and connor stallions is the reason now once again i they reap the benefit for sure of this guy cheating which sucks have to

get punished for that like that is just something that has to happen but i i consider me a hundred percent on the side of jim harbaugh had no idea because john harbaugh could have started just to your he could have started around all that yeah he didn't believe it but he's he's putting up for his name too he's like yeah i know we're talking about jim but also like our entire family now is getting questioned yeah just want to let you know this ain't how this whole thing goes. Also, when you look at it deeper like we did a couple weeks ago in terms of there being no precedent for something like this to happen and the Big Ten kind of just being like,

you know what, I know we typically have these things in place to make sure that everyone gets kind of a fair trial and we don't rush to judgment, but screw that. Jim Harbaugh's kind of an asshole. Everyone hates Michigan. So let's go ahead and just, before we technically have all the facts and all the evidence,

let's go ahead and make a ruling on this in the middle of the season when they're in a national championship run. Hopefully they get beat this weekend against Penn State, and that kind of puts an end to it, and we don't have to worry about it. They ran the ball 35 straight times.

Exactly. There's no signals needed. We're just going to run the ball 35 straight times in your house, on your grass. And if John coaches on Saturday, they might win 150 to nothing. Could you imagine John Harbaugh coaching Michigan this weekend? That'd be awesome. It would be the coolest thing of all time. It really would.

Does it work out where they are? Thursday night, yeah. Well, no, it does because Michigan's in Maryland. Bingo. This is amazing. Short John. It's's in Maryland. Bingo. Yeah. This is amazing. Short jaunt. It's going to happen. Oh, my God.

We will talk to Top Dollar today in the third hour. He's doing a food drive, seventh annual food drive for Sarah's Place. Sarah's Place. He's WWE superstar, formerly in the NFL. A.J. Francis, also University of Maryland alum and grad, grew up in the area. He's doing a food drive for the 7th annual year. Big game. It's happening this weekend. So we'll talk to him to hopefully

spur up some donations. Get a little food there for the community. I believe it's sarahshouse.com I think is where you can find out more information. We'll talk to him. Who's hotter? Not notter. Top dollar. Bigger. Big dogger. Joining us now is a college

football guru. A man who talks for four hours every single morning on a radio show about college ball. More specifically, Ohio State football over there in the great city of Columbus, Ohio. He's a college football legend. And for us, he is the guy that we go to for rankings all season long. He also might be somebody that the college football playoff thinks about whenever they're doing their own rankings. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the Generals college football rankings.

Generals! General, how you doing, pal? I'm doing great, man. Just listening to that little conversation you guys are having about Michigan. I'm worried if Boston Connors is worried that Conor Steins is giving all the Connors a bad name. Oh, good call. Because the Harbaugh's were worried about this becoming a bad name.

Is Conor now the name of a little snake that maybe takes down an entire organization that's trying to help? I mean, if you guys want to disrespect one of the greatest portions of our military, the Marine Corps, and say that all Connors are bad people, sure, go right ahead. But just don't forget what flag you're spitting on. Okay, Bob? I respect it, sir. Thank you for getting very straight. Conor Stallions was a veteran.

He never deployed, right? Nope. Here in the United States. Went to the Naval Academy. Yep. Then he was a Marine. Was ready. Was stationed over in California.

Then got a chance to go ahead and do signs. They said, this is going to be your job. Let's see how you can do this. And he goes, this is impossible to do. So, I mean, I'm going to get it done, though. Anyways, let's move along. General, great to see you, pal. We appreciate the hell out of you.

College football playoff rankings came out last night. Your rankings coming out today, is there a lot of similarities? Do you see the picture the same way, or is there a lot of differences? Today, you're doing top ten, which I'm very grateful for. Yeah, we're going to do top 10. There's a lot of similarities there. We'll start off with number 10. There's a little bit of differences down here at the bottom

because if everybody can agree, I think the Pac-12 is the most stacked conference at the top. We agree. Hey, hold on, though. That's getting forgotten about, Bobby. We've been talking about that all season, and then now that they're starting to kind of play each other, people are forgetting that this is a great, great conference right now.

It's a damn shame. They're really good. They're fantastic. The top four or five teams you'd probably stack up against any other conference. So for my number 10 rolling in here, I'm going to have to go with Oregon State. They just smoked Stanford. I know they've got a couple of losses. I know the CFP, they love

Louisville sitting in there, but for me like, I mean, Louisville's got some wins, but Oregon State with what they've been able to do and they've got Washington this week, then Oregon. I mean, heaven forbid if they went out, they'll have a strong case with looking at who they've beaten despite the fact Oh, you're saying maybe Oregon

State's able to sneak into a big one potentially with their, they have a – I mean, Corvallis is going to be rocking this weekend. Oh, my gosh. Matt House. 10-5 in the General's pool. Matt, probably biggest game of the weekend. It's 11 – actually, I don't know if it's 5 or not.

I don't know where he has Washington. It might be different, but in the CFPU, it's 11-5. You have them at 10. Great team. Smith, Coach Smith, is a football guru over there. And DJ Uyunglele. Look at this guy. Ball and resurgence.

And then look at Clemson now. And it's like, wait, who was it maybe? Uh-oh. That's a whole, it's an interesting dynamic over there. All right, General, who's number nine? Sometimes you just need to change your scenery. My number nine, I'm going to go with the Missouri Tigers. If you look at what they just did to Tennessee, I was worried, Pat.

They spilled it against Georgia. Schrader rushed the ball all over the Bulldogs. He was beat up. I thought, how much gas can he have left in the tank? They're taking it on Tennessee. Seemed ripe for the Vols to come in there and get a victory. And, man, they smacked Tennessee in a big way. Schrader 200 yards plus, touchdown.

I love what Missouri is. And just because they're not a classic football school, I don't think they're getting as much respect as they probably deserve. Yeah, we'll have Cody Schrader on the show tomorrow, actually. Yeah, 220, I believe, Eastern. Can't wait to talk to him. I guess his story is phenomenal as well whenever you dig in. And I said at a college game, but I don't want to do a lot of like,

I said, but I did. I think the Georgia fans and, I don't want to do a lot of like, I should, but I did. I think the Georgia fans in the world don't fully appreciate and respect that Missouri win, you know, until a couple games down the road here. Like, college football players might be the reason why they decided to move Georgia to where it is

because Missouri, the better they get, the better for Georgia's resume in this entire thing. Because you see, it's 30-21, I think was the final score of that game. And you're like, Georgia only beats Missouri 30-21. It's like, you're not thinking about this Missouri football team. You're thinking about Missouri like five years ago, six years ago.

Different squad. I'm happy you showed them respect here at number nine. I've got tons of love for Missouri with what they've been able to do. They're a tough physical team. And I'm excited to listen to Schrader tomorrow. Like you said, Pat, he's got a great story, so dive on in with that. At number eight, I've got the Alabama Crimson Tide, and I would like to have them a little bit higher,

but I always say games matter. They took care of Kentucky. Milrow is really starting to play well. That defense is rounding into form. You know what? All we talked about at the beginning of the year, like Nick Saban have two losses. Could he have three?

Is this the end of the dynasty? And, man, they've gotten better and better every week. Yeah. They just beat the hell out of Kentucky. Yeah. And Kentucky's had a couple of those this year, and I think they're stoopsies in the middle of maybe rebuilding, reloading that entire thing. But, like, Alabama, nobody wants to play Alabama right now.

Much different team than they were earlier in the year. Can't wait to talk to Coach Nick Saban. We'll be on the show tomorrow at 105. Hell, yeah. We're just setting this thing up for promos. Appreciate you. Let's go next. I'd like to tee it up for you, Pat.

I'm going to try to be a good teammate the best I can. Love that. We got number seven here. I've got Texas. And I would love to have Alabama ahead of them because I think they're playing a better ball. We'll see Quinn Uris. He's back. First game back, maybe a little rust. We'll see if he can continue to improve, but they went into Tuscaloosa early in the year and they beat them by 11. So I have to count that even though I think that

Alabama is playing better football today after you saw Texas just getting pushed mightily by TCU. Yeah, and TCU has been so hit or miss this year. So you don't know what you have in them. So you don't know if that's good or not for Texas. Boo Corrigan said, we do take into account when games happen and what teams have looked like since then. I think in the end, if it continues the way it is now,

there's a chance Quinn Ewers goes out and they light it up and they get explosive plays like he was able to do in a couple of the games early in the season and they're able to go on a run. That Oklahoma loss, though, not, you know what I mean? With where Oklahoma is, there's going to be a lot of people mad. And that's why college football is awesome. Absolutely.

Because there's actually no right answer. No. And people are very passionate at all of these schools. And they were ready to fight you if you say it goes a different way. So it's set up for failure to begin with with only four spots. But especially when Texas beats Alabama early and they both end up with one loss looking like two teams, much different teams at the end. And it's like that's just a recipe for a war from two fan bases right there.

And they also said that they take injuries into account. So, like, does Texas get a better grade because they're winning with a backup quarterback? Or now that Jonathan Brooks is out for the season, are they going to take them down a peg? It's very interesting. It is. Buchorgan has said numerous times, we take everything into account. Don't you worry. Everything.

Where, who, how, what it looked like the weather defense offense all that he said they look at it all i'm happy you do the same exact thing general let's move on to the sixth ranked team in the general's top 10 and this is another team i'd love to have ranked much higher because i think they're playing some of the best football in the country we We talk about the Pac-12. They've got the loss to Washington, but the Oregon Ducks come in there at six. You saw what they did to USC. Bo Nix, 400 yards through the air, four touchdowns. We talk about quarterbacks.

We're talking about DJ struggling at Clemson. We talk about Bo Nix couldn't get right at Auburn. This guy might win a Heisman Trophy now out in Oregon. Yeah, I think Bo is the Heisman favorite, I was just told in my ear. But that changes every week as well. And who knows with these big stages coming up these last final weeks, who might sneak in. Jaden Daniels, they're saying at LSU, might be the guy that wins it

just because he's clearly the best. That's what people are saying, clearly the best football player. But they got three losses. That's a tough thing for a quarterback to win with that. You know, who knows how it's going to go. Maybe the bodacious Bo Nix does get a win because we saw how bummed that entire team was after that Washington loss. Crushed.

But the strength of the Pac-12 might save them in this conversation. Like, yeah, a lot of people lose to Washington. Sorry about it. Let's move along. I love Dan Lanning. He talked yesterday about other schools wanting him too. And he said, ah, I'm staying right here at Oregon. Place is beautiful.

Good luck to them. Top five in the general's top ten. Oregon's a fantastic job too. Dan Lanning come out and saying that, Pat, I don't think people in the SEC, they look at A&M and how great that is. Oregon's got limitless resources. They got the West Coast. They're joining the Big Ten.

They've got everything there. I think Dan Lanning knows what he's got cooking. Number five, this is where I start to differ a little with the committee. You've got Florida State sitting at number five. They barely beat Miami. There's a couple of plays that there were some iffy calls in there that maybe could have turned the other way, maybe a no call on a PI. They've got North Alabama this week, so not a whole lot you're going to see there.

Florida State is good, but they haven't really played a ton of teams since early in the season. And I don't know if they've been tested quite the same way, had a tough one against Pitt a couple weeks ago early on. So Florida State's a little iffy to me. Their undefeated record's still propping them up. Yeah, they've got Florida here next week, I think. I think they have Florida at the end of the season.

The rivalry weekend, yeah. Yeah, it's like that seems like if they beat Florida, even though Florida is nowhere near what all these other teams are, I think a lot of people will pay them a little bit more respect. But right now it's strictly resume-driven for the Florida State slander. And I said one day that I didn't think, like, hey, sorry about it. I just don't know. And then they went out and put a 41 piece on Wake. I think it was like

41-13 that day. And I said, Oklahoma's better. I said, Oklahoma beat Texas. Who's Florida State beat? And then Oklahoma lost that day. Florida State had their best day. So I got murdered by Florida State people. And I'd like to appreciate their passion and we're all thankful they're back.

But the conversation about them being undefeated all the way through and never having to play anybody because it is a down year for the ACC is how the national view is. And then a couple of these one-loss teams that are, you know, let's say Alabama wins the whole thing. Yeah. The SEC championship.

Yeah, beating Georgia. Have to go. Okay, now Georgia has one loss. Got to get in. Alabama has one loss. Yep. Florida State, no losses. Yeah, beating Georgia. Have to go. Okay, now Georgia has one loss. Alabama has one loss. Florida State, no losses. How does this... Or if Texas wins the Big 12 championship

and has one loss and beat Alabama. Oregon over... That means Washington has one. And then Michigan, Ohio State, you know. So it's like, Florida State people, we're not the ones making this up. We're just saying, you guys got to win convincingly. We're just speaking about how it's going to probably end up being.

And it's like not fair. We get it. You're just trying to win football games. But with the way this whole thing is set up, it's like Florida State has to do a little dance for the committee about, yeah, we're really, really good. Well, and when you talk about when they played teams, they've had the benefit the entire year if they beat LSU week one when LSU was ranked in the top ten and everyone thought they were going to be a real player in the SEC. Again, that is their marquee win, and that looks a hell of a lot different now than it did nine weeks ago.

I think we can all agree 12 is going to be awesome next year. Yes. 12-game playoff is going to be so much better. Cannot wait until we don't have to do the oh who's getting screwed that's pretty much what the college football playoff conversation is instead of celebrating all these great teams that make it in instead the whole conversation is this team got screwed they deserve to be in there it's like let's just open this up they are next year thank god well one of the other things pat i want to give florida state credit their acc may not be great,

but they did go out and schedule LSU. That's not a game that was just put on their schedule because they're in the same conference. They went out and tried to schedule up. They can't help that LSU is a little bit down this year with three losses, but they're doing their best. I like to give credit to teams that are going to go schedule big

in a non-conference because those are the games we like to see. Agreed. Better for the sport, better for the team, too. They're going to get better from it the non-conference because those are the games we like to see agreed better for the sport better for the team too they're going to get better from it but then that gets called in the conversation because if you lose one and you're alabama gets texas right it was not in the sec they're in the big 12 but you scheduled texas early and you lose that well that's going to get held against you for the rest of the season where somebody else might just schedule oh i don't know uh toledo who had great night last night yeah same with Bowling Green I saw a little pop pass one hand to grab out of Bowling Green but instead of scheduling something like that you schedule a big one but then it gets held over your head the entire time it's kind of a it's kind of a

tough decision to be made there it is it stinks man as I try my best to not look at that because if you're going out and you're scheduling aggressively because Pat that's what you said that's what we love about the sport I want to see big games early in the year. Yeah, we're big game hunting here, Pat. We're big game hunting in college ball. Big game hunting. I love it. Hey, you know who you need?

You need a good dog with you when you're going game hunting. You need a Husky, Washington Huskies, sitting there at number four. Hey, you want to talk about a great football game. That Utah Husky game was utah husky uh game was fantastic with what washington was able to do utah battling back i mean there was scoring all over the place a lot of good defense too michael pennix jr looking fantastic the thing that i love about washington is dylan johnson got the running game going against what we know is a very stout utah youth's defense 100 yards on the ground I think that will help them down the road.

Yeah, anytime you can get a little bit of balance and you don't just have to rest it on one person's left arm the entire game would certainly help out, especially if we're going to talk about college football, playoff football, where you're going to be playing defenses that are very big, very strong. You're not just going to be able to sit back there and throw it. You've got to come off the ball a little bit. You've got to be able to come off the ball and slow down that d line if you want to win in the

end i uh the committee says they take everything into account do they take into account like allegedly university of washington when they have those two bad games like flu bug was hitting the entire team incredibly they were not they were nowhere near healthy i guess as alleged now is that public is that 100 like has anybody come out and confirmed that? Kinda. Said, we're not making any excuses. We did have a bug. That whole thing. But those two games, they look bad. It's getting held against them, I think, at the college football playoff committee. And it's like, are we taking in the fact that

Penix was allegedly just, like, puking all over the place, like, while the game? Apparently not. I don't know. I don't know if we're talking. I don't know if we're talking about it. I love this Washington Huskies team. I like Kalen DeBoer. I like what they've been able to do there quickly in pennix was the heisman favorite before last week uh now bo nix's favorite it's uh pac-12 getting the heisman potentially crazy on the way out good for them who's number three general i've got the michigan

wolverines heading into happy valley pounding the rock on James Franklin, who looked like he was maybe a little crazy aggressive early in that game. But Jim Harbaugh not there. Sean Moore getting it done. A little emotional after the game, maybe a little much. But you know what? If you only throw the ball eight times and you run it like 25 consecutive times in the second half,

it is undeniable Michigan is a physical football team. They went to Happy Valley. They got a win 24-15 and looked really good doing it. What are you shaking your. Michigan is a physical football team. They went to Happy Valley. They got a win 24-15 and looked really good doing it. What are you shaking your head for? The guy was emotional. He's excited. He had an opportunity. He got a big-time win. What are you shaking your head about? That was one of the worst post-game things I've ever watched.

Whoa! Because they whipped your ass. Maybe I was a little emotional. Not quite as emotional as he was, though. What do you mean it was bad? I mean, great win. We love the chance. Keep it moving.

Well, you know what that team's been through. So hard to win at Penn State. You should know that of all people. Yeah, with the whiteout in the middle of the day. What's the whiteout record? I don't care. Four and six or something. It wasn't a whiteout.

It doesn't seem real hard to win there. You guys stink. I didn't know you guys stink up there. I thought that's all you had. We got a new coordinator coming in. You don't want to go to Happy Valley. That's right. Four and six.

Something like that. That's terrible. A couple weeks ago, they were about to beat Ohio State. This guy fully believed in it, too. In front of those Ohio State fans. Now they're a joke at home. Who would have thought? 10 and 8 over the last 18, I guess.

What? Wow. Oh, my God. New coordinator. We got... What happened to the ball case? LeVar Arrington. Jumping over it all the God. New coordinator. What happened in the fall? LeVar Arrington. Jumping over to O'Brien. Where's Joe O'Brien?

What happened? You guys are just getting pined and right in the mouth. At home. It's bad. Bad ball. Joke. Jeez. You remember those days? People used to be scared to go in there. Anytime I was on TV, gray because there's obviously no sun up there in the middle of the fall or the winter scared for other

reasons cold as hell i mean there's certainly some other stuff going on and we've certainly learned about since then growing up watching some people knew a lot of people say a few people that were very notable knew but what we're saying is what happened? What happened to your Penn State Nittany Lions? Laid an egg. Twice. 10-2. Same story. Different year. It's ridiculous. That guy loved coaching. He was thankful for the opportunity. Let's go to number two, General.

Alright, number two. We got the Georgia Bulldogs. Big victory over Ole Miss. I thought they were going to have something for them. Carson Beck looked good. 300 yards passing. Ladd McConkie's rolling. It was great to see Brock Bowers out there as well. This Georgia team has gotten better and better every week,

and they look like they're starting to round into their title form. And number one, you obviously have the Ohio State Buckeyes. Now, you and the committee do not agree this particular week. They moved Georgia ahead of Ohio State. Why do you think that is, General? They got a big win against Ole Miss, so I get that. Ohio State also is 35-3 against Michigan State at halftime. I mean, they shifted down into neutral.

So I understand where we're going with this. Everything is going to rest in about 10 days up in Ann Arbor, Michigan, because that will be one of the biggest games that you will be seeing around the country. Hell yeah, General. We appreciate the hell out of you, brother. Enjoy your life. You're the greatest. Thank you for adding to our show this fall.

Got two gimmicks for you? Oh, hell yeah. Hell yeah. Let's roll. I completely forgot about those. I got two quick gimmicks for you. I got Yolanzo Harris training day. King Kong ain't got on me.

On me. We were talking about Jaden Daniels, Pat. 372 yards through the air, 234 yards on the ground in a victory over Florida. Hell yeah. You've got to be kidding me, Coach. I've never seen numbers like that. Yeah, we agree with you. Let's roll with the next one because we're coming up on a hard out.

Congrats to Jaden, by the way. It's the best gimmick of the year. That's absurd. And then we got my man Ross Bjork, the AD for for texas a&m ricky bobby i want to go fast i've never heard more about ad's driving habits than i did when he was talking about firing jimbo fisher and where texas a&m needs to be ladies and gentlemen the general bob barber thank you buddy general Speaking of inspiration, this guy can't see out of one of his eyes, but he has not missed a program.

He has not missed a show. Except for when he's on vacation during the offseason, which a brand new audience is about to experience with all of us. He's got 10 kids. Got to keep them entertained. He's also the president of Ohio. COVID survivor. All-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers,

ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. Wow. I think I might. I got my shades because a little light-sensitive, but I think I might be able to figure it out without them. I think you get shades.

I just turned these lights on a second ago, too. My eyes start to water and pour all the time when I do look at any light. So I figured at least maybe I tried. All right. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you for the effort. That's what matters. I got one person. I got one person that sent me a tweet that said, why is that guy wearing shades? He's not cool enough to wear shades on TV. I'm like, funny. That was a very funny comment. But also, look at how quickly your eye has recovered.

I think that's the power of positive thoughts. You've said this eye was going to recover overnight when this happened. We're just three days into this. You're already able to kind of move that thing. Congratulations. This man lost a third of his cornea just three days ago. Ripped out of his eye. Tough SOB.

He's a tough son of a bitch. That's why he's the president of Ohio. You want to give a speech? No speech. It has not grown back yet. He said it was a deep, deep divot, so it's still trying to fill in. The covering will, like the top surface will come back once that divot

fills in. I've got to go back again tomorrow morning. Yeah, it's like an everyday thing. It will grow back though? This isn't something where you're going to be problematic? Yeah, it is growing back, yeah. I mean, I don't... My business is a bit blurry at the moment, but it's all right. It'll come back. You're still driving, of course.

I tell you what, driving when the sun is coming up, when your eyeballs hurt this bad, it is a tough situation. It's getting you choked up. It's getting me choked up, too, thinking of you going out there with my Lucia. You already suck at driving. Guy drives with both feet. I'm very good.

Very good driver. Don't lie to people. Nope. Menace to society. A risk to society as well. Falls asleep. Openly admits falls asleep while driving with both feet. Hands mangled because he played football back whenever he used to just grab jerseys.

So he can barely grip the steering wheel. We got a sleeper who can't touch the wheel who's using both feet now he can't see out there ohio look out not good look out the amount of people too with signs i don't know if you've seen them uh there was a sign on game day that was like aj hawks driving is more dangerous than something else it's like i'm happy everybody realizes that i hope your neighbors do too aj honestly i mean we see some of those signs. We know there's – everything's not exactly true that we read on those signs on Friday and Saturday. I'm pretty sure they are. Oh, this guy.

What are you talking about? You soaking, Bob? I mean, there's always – there's plenty of soaking posters. But you know what? I respect the material. So, yeah, it's fine. All right. Before we get to the next conversation, we're proud of you and your eye.

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You're going to be in the Hall of Fame soon. And every single Wednesday, you're going to swear all over ESPN and ruin a program. Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Watt. Yeah, J.J. Hey. Hey, guys. Hey. Great to be here.

Yeah. J.J., you drive with two feet? What the hell? Bingo, JJ. Thank you for being a human with a brain. Why does that happen? That can't be real. It's real.

That can't be real. He thinks he's a race car driver, this guy. He does. Like race car drivers, you know, because gas is here, brake is here, and they start in go-karts where literally one's on one side and one's on the other. They use both feet because it's more efficient, they say. That's what AJ says he's doing while he's driving a minivan or F-150 truck around Ohio. Right, AJ?

I don't want to speak out of pocket. Yes, very efficient. I never ride the brake. You act like I am riding the brake with my left foot. I am not. I am hovering over top of it, and I depress the brake very slowly when I need to. That can't be real because hip flexor, obviously, and quad would wear out while you're doing that. Dorsiflexion. We got we got a lot of modalities a lot of modalities what do you think

about the modalities that aaron's doing what if this guy comes back from an achilles tear in the same season jj that'd be unbelievable it'd be uh truly unbelievable you're about to say the f word again wow no no i'm not i'm not. No, I'm not swearing today. I'm not swearing today. No swears. Not even little swears. Well, I already said hell, so we got that one out of the way. That's a place. That's in the book.

That's in the book. My grandma joked with me after last week's show. She sent me like a jokingly scolding text and then said, I'm just kidding. I love that show. I just have one question. How come nobody ever asks that AJ any questions? Will you talk to him a little bit?

So I said, alright, Grandma, what do you got for him? And she didn't have any questions for me, but AJ, I'm talking to you on behalf of my grandma. Hell yeah. Let's go, Grandma. I appreciate her watching the show. I'll be alright. You don't have to ask me any questions. I usually get to ask other people questions.

Yeah, and Grandma, you probably see the good in everybody, and we appreciate that. AJ's normally dropping in trying to do the complete opposite. Right. You know what I mean, Grandma? Oh, no. How? How is this possible?

Yeah, because you're a pig. That's right. Put it in our head. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, I don't love it either. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Well.

Yeah, you're on. If you did percentage of showtime, the pie chart, you would have a lot bigger piece of the pie than me. This is not good. Yeah, I mean, your discipline has certainly been something that has been called into question numerous times in this particular Thunderdome after the show and what you've done. To a mind that we would be tied for the lead alongside Tone Diggs and D-Bud,

who is just so careless. Yeah, D-Bud. We would be right next to each other, but I dropped two F-bombs because Bill Belichick was on a ring camera, shirtless, looking like a dog. And I couldn't contain myself. I completely forgot.

So that's going to be tough. Who could? Yeah. Why is there an asterisk? Why is there an asterisk? You guys break this down on CBS? Yeah, did you guys talk about this video and what it might do to inspire the boys in Germany?

Yeah, we went in-depth into this video. I mean, just an absolute unit. Just a purebred unit. Dog, amen. Look at that. Absolute dog. That was my takeaway, too. They were like, what was he doing?

I was like, who cares? Look at him. This guy is a beast right now. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, you cares? Look at him. This guy is a beast right now. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, you go ahead. Your show. All right.

Well, I didn't know if you were going to compliment Bill Belichick there. We're open to those because I think he's getting fired. Oh, I mean, the guy clearly does some pecs, some delts. He does a little bit of everything. That guy doesn't skip gym day. You think he's on a Peloton in the office while watching film, or you think he's squatting in the office while watching film? How do you think he gets it in?

I would say squatting is – that body type fits squatting more than it fits Peloton, I would say. Look at that. Just barrel chest. That is the definition of a barrel chest. Yes. Yeah, there was a guy in the back here who was just speaking completely out of pocket whenever he watched that.

Look at that little weakling, I think. I don't get some weaklings on that guy. I said bag of milk. We're just going to lie to everybody now. We're just going to gas everybody up all the time for no reason. He's 70-plus years of age. Yeah. This is J.J. Watts saying the guy's a barrel of unit.

J.J.'s a nice guy. That back row back there has some issues with him. Don't drag me into this. J.J.'s a dog. Let's do that. Okay, so we haven't got a chance to chat a little bit. Gumpy, how Burnley do, huh? We're on the up and ups.

We got good guys. See the hat's still on the owner here. They were tied with Arsenal 70 minutes in. They fought hard. 0-0? Lost 3-1. Oh. No, it's 1-1.

International. International break now. Tough match with West Ham after that. The Hammers? But, JJ, Sheffield, Wolves, Everton and Fulham in December. We got to have points there, lad.

Big month coming up. I agree. Thank you, Gump. Thank you for a little positivity, Gump. I appreciate that. I agree. After this international break, we go on a little run and then into the new year, we have plenty of time. Plenty of time. We're going to go on a run. We're going to be good. You know what to say? The days are long

but time flies. This season's going to pass before we even notice. If Burnley doesn't start accruing some sort of points, what are we talking, Gump? What are we... I don't know. I don't think I know the soccer well enough over there. Right now, they are in the

relegation zone. Oh, come on, JJ. JJ, we can't have that. What? We can't have that. No, we can't have it. I agree. And that's part of the beauty of sport.

It's the ups and the downs. You live and die with your squad. And you don't back out when things get hard. You don't walk away from your squad when things go a little sideways. You stick by their side. You wear the crest. And you go out there and you fight again. Almost dropped an F-bomb there, was going to, and I didn't.

That's because you're an owner of me. Congratulations. Good job, JJ. Good job, JJ. Good job for you, JJ. Progress. And I like the motivational speech that you just said there, and hopefully that will find its way to the boys during this international break.

Where's Tyler? I want to know where Tyler and Dude Perfect are. They need to be talking to the boys on how we score some more goals in sweet ways. Well, unfortunately not great because I wonder if Tyler and the boys are a little more preoccupied with the Texas A&M coaching search because I believe they are Texas A&M alumna. So, you know, I don't know if they're kind of – if they got their eggs in that basket right now and not the burner basket.

I mean, they got a lot of money. Did they contribute to that buyout? Because my goodness, is there a better job in the world than a fired college football coach? Are you thinking about taking the next one? Yeah, and then I'm going to try and get fired on day one. That would be great. Big buyout, no deferral.

I would love for it to be Texas A&M because they seem to have a lot of money down there. My favorite, I mean, I'm sure you guys talked about it, but the fact that they presented at halftime of that game, the boosters presented a $163 million check, and then they fired their coach right after. That is one of the biggest flexes I have ever seen in my entire life. Let's wait for the team to get back on the field here, too, just so Jimbo can see this.

The guy that actually – or the family that wrote the check. This is from us. Pretty sweet. What do you think this one's for, pal? Go ahead and enjoy these two quarters. It's the last time you got with one of these whistles. I can't even know exactly what it was for. I don't know.

Oh, my gosh. Did we – Hunter, that's Oh, my gosh. Did we? Hunter, that's a lot of money. What are you guys going to do with that? We already rebuilt the stadium. Is that for new uniforms? New uniforms? Yeah.

Somebody on his team. I think that's for you. Really? Surely if I win this game 51-10, you're not going to fire me after this, right? No way. No way you'd be able to do that. Let's move to NFL football. Let's move to a little bit of NFL football.

Is that San Diego? San Diego, yes. You stay classy, San Diego. What does the old ship, what does it stand for? Yeah, what was it? It's an old, old wooden ship. Diversity. No, no.

Yes. Yeah, diversity. What does San Diego stand for? What does it stand for? No, no. It's City of Angels. City of Angels. No, no.

That wasn't what I said. That's how I am. Something to do with anatomy. I think it was a whale. It was a whale, right? What was it again? 60% of the time, it works every time. Was it a dork?

I think. That was in there, but I don't think that was a sex. A dork can be involved. Sex Panther does. You put the dork in it. That was in the movie. I don't know. I don't recall. Wow. AJ can call my grandma.

Don't you think? Alright, let's move on. Great movie. We're not going to decipher what San Diego is? I don't think? All right, let's move on. Great movie. We're not going to decipher what San Diego is? Great movie. I don't think it was right. Really? Yeah.

I mean. I thought the people from San Diego say that's what it means. What is it? It's a whale's vagina? Is that what it is? I think it's St. Diago. I think it's St. Diago. All right, sweet.

Diego. Thanks for bringing up all that stuff, JJ. Hope you made your grandma proud. Let's move to making. Great start. Hey, let's talk about making grandma proud. Grandma in Wisconsin? She is.

Okay, so obviously the stat has come out. In the first 100 games, you and your brother, number two and number three. In the history of how many sacks you record in the first 100 games. Now, TJ Passion is 96, so he has time to continue to catch up. And you put out a tweet that was really remarkable. You said, no, it's two Wisconsin boys. We grew up watching and idolizing Reggie White. So to be on the same stat as him, obviously it's a massive honor.

You have been on these particular statistic boards alongside legends because you yourself are a legend, sir. TJ, obviously a legend in the making currently actively whenever you see this type of stuff happen what do you think back about what do you reflect upon and what do you think tj will get to add 100 here in the next couple games yeah you know i think when i put out a tweet like that or i talk about stats like this uh i think people think yeah it's obviously you're gonna say you know it's really cool to see your guys' names up there. You're going to say all the right stuff, but like literally growing up in the state of Wisconsin and watching the Green Bay Packers as a kid,

and you see Brett Favre, you see Reggie White, you see like these guys playing, it's, you treat them like, like that is unattainable. That is something that you didn't even like, those are on a different pedestal so to to grow up watching reggie and to know how we idolized him and how we looked at him and the way that he played the game like that didn't even seem like it was when we were playing backyard football we were pretending to be the high school quarterback at pewaukee high school we weren't pretending to be these nfl guys because that was something different so now to see our names next to a guy like reggie white and to not only see one of our names there but to

see us together as brothers there um it is it is truly really really special and it i don't think that we fully even understand it right now how cool that is and how awesome this whole thing has been hey reggie at 105 or whatever you know it's like we we actually the reason why we have those clips is because i was like i don't i know reggie white gets a lot of respect and obviously anytime his name is mentioned everybody says it's awesome but like that is a dominant first hundred game that is a phenomenal first hundred games and you guys, for me, is the true GOAT. I love all the guys that people put in the GOAT conversation. I think Lawrence Taylor is unbelievable.

I think he's incredible, some of the things he accomplished. But when you truly look at Reggie White's numbers, and you go back and you watch some of that film, and you see the stats he was putting up, Reggie White did some unbelievable things. And for me, he'll always be the greatest of all time. Hell yeah. Go ahead, AJ.

JJ, quick pivot back to, I know we watched that Bill Belichick video. Now, we don't have to show that again. We understand the guy benches 405 for at least 12 to 15 sets of five, from what I assume. And obviously, he can probably do 600 pull-ups, not even the kick-ups. Real slow pull-ups, too. It's not even moving, you know, because his chest is so big. He's only got to do that one.

It might work. With that being said, JJ, we're hearing that Bill Belichick might not be the coach of the New England Patriots next year. Do you think that is a possibility? And if so, where do you think would be a good spot for him to go coach next? Man, it's fascinating. It really is fascinating because how do you transition on from a guy that, you know, you won six rings

together he's had such an unbelievable stretch um obviously they're going through an extremely tough time right now but they've created such a level of excellence where you can't they won't stand for that any longer so is there a parting of ways i mean it certainly looks like it if you just look look from the outside looking in um but where does he go next? I mean, I don't know. It's going to look weird no matter where he goes if he does, because it's just going to look weird. But then you also ask the question, is he going to be able to have the GM hat and the head coach hat wherever he goes? I would guess yes. I mean, anybody who's going to want Bill Belichick, they're going to have to give and say, you get to do whatever you want.

You're Bill Belichick. You have six rings. It is going to be very interesting. I know San Diego has been tossed around a lot. He's not trying to build a brand. Wake up. I don't know. I really don't know because he also has a very specific style of coaching.

We all know the Patriot way, the very tough, the disciplined, the extreme way that he coaches and goes about things. So I really don't know, but I'm fascinated to watch. As a fan, it is certainly great for us to talk about for a while. Certainly. And Lambeau, who has obviously been close to the situation up there numerous times, him just acting like, yeah, he will definitely go coach somewhere else and didn't say like, nah, Kraft ain't't never gonna get rid of bill belichick and then

allegedly bill belichick was the one that might have leaked his two-year contract extension that he signed to remind the crafts of how much money he is owed like these are all things that are being speculated it's like oh this is getting real loud seemingly this is not when we get orlovsky like i mean i saw orlovsky like if If he knows, just tell us, dude. I'm all reporter. And then he probably said, I said it yesterday. The way he says it is

every time. I'm like, who is that? What's yesterday? He says it like an asshat. Yeah, but who is that? He's trying to sound like he is from an inner-city Boston accent town, and he's not. Oh, that's a Boston accent?

Yesterday? Yesterday is no ours. Yeah, that's Boston. He's not. He's not. Not even close. He said he also said, I'm not a reporter. That's why I'm not going to say.

But he did hear it from somebody who might know. Right. I think that's how he laid it out. That one went real big. There's no did hear it from somebody who might know. Right. I think it's how he laid it out. That one went, that one went, that one went real big. There's no rule against it either. It did go. Yeah, it did. I was watching the whole show yesterday.

I really enjoyed it. Really enjoyed the show yesterday. I thought you guys did a phenomenal job. Don't watch our show, JJ. Yeah. Okay? Don't do that. It's not good.

What's that? Did that feel genuine? No, he didn't watch the show. I did it while working out. I watched the whole show while working out. The whole Aaron interview and everything. It was really enjoyable. I enjoyed the whole show while working out. The whole Aaron interview and everything, it was really enjoyable. I enjoyed the whole thing.

Aaron broke down some plays really well. I thought the breakdowns of a lot of the plays and actual football stuff was a lot of fun. And then, I mean, I like seeing you guys go back and forth. Obviously, Aaron and AJ have got quite the friendship relationship. Hey, there was a little animosity yesterday, wasn't there? Did you feel it? I mean, there was a lot of bedroom talk. That threw me for a loop. I wasn't prepared for the bedroom talk.

The possibility of that being a lie, what you're lying about, the cornea injury, fascinated me. I jumped on board the conspiracy train. Oh, okay. So he thinks it's – oh, I think a lot more people, by the way, AJ, are starting to think that it was when you guys were getting after. Whoa. Okay. So great. Cool. Whatever you what you guys were getting after. Whoa. Okay, so great. Cool. Whatever you think.

I don't know exactly what that means. What would have gone into my eyeball and chipped out my cornea? You tell us, pal. I'm sick of having to escalate. We don't know what you got in there. You're in Ohio. Saza. Hey, once again, I don't judge anybody.

Could have been a Saza. This is a finger from my son. Plugged it in. He didn't know it was already on. You should run with this. This is like something that's almost like something to be proud of. Yeah. We're trying to make an 11th kid.

What do you think? Yeah, let's make it a positive then. J.J., you mentioned Aaron, how he breaks down film and everything. What about everything else that he said and that he does and talks about? Are you a fan? Do you agree with everything that he says? Say, Grandma, this is what I'm talking about. There's a lot of stuff that he does that I can't even wrap my head around it.

I don't even understand. There's words and phrases and plants, I think. I don't know. There's things that I don't even know what they are. So, no, I can't have an opinion on that. You and your brother talking about ayahuasca, that would be a hilarious conversation. You two trying to figure out.

If he comes back and plays in three months after Terrence and Kuz, we're going to be talking a whole lot about Ayahuasca. I'm going to be trying to play for another four more seasons. I'm going to start calling Aaron real quick. Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Pittsburgh Steelers got you, Jack Tom. Oh, mama, I'm in fear for my life from the long arm of the law.

You felt it. You felt it. You were like, you know what? Yeah, I am still getting under squat rack for some damn reason. I'm just a dad at this point. I'm still getting after it. Is that? You started feeling it a little bit.

We got a playoff push coming right now. Oh, my God. Week 11. This is the time. push coming right now. Oh, my God. Week 11? This is the time. Perfect. This is the time, JJ. Even TJ yesterday, because we were texting about the workout, and even he was like, hey, you're lifting a lot of weight right now.

Like, what's all this for? I'm like, but the thing that I keep going back to, because, I mean, I'm not an idiot. Like, there's thoughts that always will creep into your head, but I always shoot them right down. I have not run, so I'm not – I have not run. I've not run. I've not trained.

Certainly the lifting is absolutely there. Well, and you smoke every day, right? You smoke every single day? Yeah, Sigs. Yeah, absolutely. I told you. You guys know me. Just ripping heaters left and right.

Ripping heaters. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's cold up there. I don't know where this came from, too. Steelers left and right. Yep. Ripping heaters. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's cold up there. I don't know where this came from, too. Like, Steelers fans have been doing it for years, obviously. But, like, recently in my mentions, Lions fans. It came out of nowhere. Oh, hell no.

Come on, JJ. Hey, go to Detroit, pal. You would be a hero forever if you bring that city a Super Bowl. Let's go. You and Hutch, get to the quarterback for JJ. Come on. Well, you do the other eye. Yeah.

Oh, no. You do that other eye. They don't have chocolate pretzels there, JJ. This is a stupid idea. Yeah, you're right. TJ can do it, I guess, too. Maybe you guys take Hutch's thing. Yeah.

Because that feels like a little bit too much destiny. You guys have your eyes like this. That would be, let's go, dude. Yeah. All right, so you're still... No, 99's not available either, so it's okay. That means no non-starter.

You could wear number one or something. Maybe two because it's your second phase of your career. Where's it not available at? Detroit, I think. Anywhere. Retired? Oh, dude, this is awesome.where. It's not available. Retired? Detroit?

Oh, dude, this is awesome. You want to play football again. Wow. How could you not? Whenever you see those terrible towels. Yeah. When you see them yinzers just losing their mind doing this entire thing. Watching Burnley on Saturdays.

These guys suck. I need to get some frustration out of them. Yeah, you're right. Come on. Yeah, I need to be on the field. I can't wait until we flip this thing around and I can come out here after some wins. That's going to be great.

Hell yeah. We'll be doing this 2030. That'll happen. That'll be good. That'll be great. It's a process. It's a transition. We got to do it.

Oh, my God. I think I just heard JJ wants to play football again. Either the Lions or the Steelers. Oh, my God. Pick your poison. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You think I would go to – I mean, think about it.

Use our brains for a second here. If you're going to go somewhere, obviously you speak about Pittsburgh because my brother's there, but is there another team that's playing incredibly well right now who's got a quarterback that's crushing it, that's got a lot of connections? Like, I mean, choose our brains. I got one for you. I don't think. I'm struggling, actually.

No, I got one for him. I can't think of it. I got one for you. I think D-Buck could probably. Yeah, right down there. There'll be a guy right next to you, too, who I was about to ask you about with Sheldon Rankins, 98. There you go.

Had a JJY-ish game, three sacks. On the stadium. He's on the stadium. And he's doing this shit again. Turn down for one. Punching himself in the face so he can bleed. Oh, my God. Scoring touchdowns.

Oh, that would be so sick. He goes up on the bench. He does this thing. He's always, come on. Come on. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Oh, my God. It's back.

Yes. Guess who's back. Yep. Back again. Juan is back. Oh, I love this. And Houston. The energy, the excitement.

If you're sitting at home right now and you're not laughing and having a great time and your mood is raised right now, you're crazy. Because this show gives it to you every week. No, JJ, there's people right now that go, get this off of my face. Why is he standing on his chair? Why does he still have a tank top on? It's damn near winter. Yeah, that's what people are saying.

But it feels real, doesn't it? Oh, yeah. I wasn't even thinking about this coming into it either. Houston, holy hell. That's just coming out. It's like, yeah, why not? It's not happening. Nothing's happening.

Detroit is the best. Come on home. You can't lie to us now, brother. Are you the first guy to ever play in a stadium that you're already in the ring of honor for? He would be. You would have to be. Yeah.

This is ridiculous. Threaten itself. Wow. Yeah. Break the record, JJ. Be would have to be. Yeah. This is ridiculous. Threaten itself. Wow. Yeah. Break the record, JJ. Be the first guy ever. And after you get a sack, I think you just point up to yourself. Yeah.

Point up to yourself up there. Or salute yourself up on the wall. You can do the salute. That's for me. Thank you to me. All right. Let's save you. Let's get back.

What's next? I heard there's another players-only meeting going on. Did you guys hear that? Garrett Wilson was saying on a show with Simini. Simini. Simini. He was saying Simini, basically, that, yeah, we just had to kind of, you know, an open forum.

You know, sometimes when players say some things, you know, might listen a little bit more. And we don't want to be down the road and wish back that we would have done this before. And there's then other reports saying it's one of the players only. It was a meet. It was a players-led. Players get together.

Players-led meeting. Like not a players-only meeting. I guess, you know, there's a chance that, you know, there's contradicting names for what happened. But nonetheless, they spoke it out. They're turning the season around. And when Aaron comes back fresh off that Achilles in Ayahuasca in a shorter time period than anybody in history,

they're going to go on a run because they spoke about it. J.J., you don't think that worked? You don't think the Jets really accomplished anything in this players-only meeting? You think players-only meetings are a joke? You think this is all fugues? Because the way I heard Gary Wilson say it, this is going to change them.

Big time. I'm trying to find out. It sounded a little bit like it could have been offense only. I did read a little bit of things that it might have been offense only, which we know can be okay. Full team is an issue. Full team is an issue.

Full team is an issue. We know that. So if it is full team, concerning. I would put it as concerning. But it also makes us follow. So very excited to see the Jets this week. I don't know who they play, but very much looking forward to it. Players only meetings.

I don't know if we've done the research. Really successful in the past. All the time. Really, really, really, right? Don't they kind of 180 a whole team, JJ? Isn't that kind of if we've done the research. Really successful in the past. All the time. Yeah. Really, really, really. Right? Don't they kind of 180 a whole team, JJ? Isn't that kind of what we've realized? Well, what was it? Last week, the Bills had one.

Offense only. But then their offensive coordinator got fired. So. And they lost. Jets play the Bills this week, too. Oh, the Bills. Players only. Oh, players only.

Players only. Let's go. This is good. This is good. This is good news. We're going live. What if they tie? That would be awesome. That would be awesome.

Players only, players only. No winners. Too much positive juju going on with all the players telling all the tales of each other. Who works harder than everybody else? Who's more locked in than everybody else? Who needs picking up? I thought what Aaron said yesterday was brilliant also on the

Bills. If they actually just missed that kick, if the Broncos just missed that kick at the end and they win that game, Ken Dorsey's not fired. There are multiple levels of butterfly effect here that all unfolded because of a wild 30 seconds at the end of a game. I thought he was spot on with saying like that can affect so many things

down the line. And it's pretty wild, but that little sequence right there ended guys. I mean, his tenure there and who knows what else happened long-term. It's bananas because that one place says a lot though, like week 10, having 12 players on the field for a game winning field

goal too. That says a lot. And it was the weirdest part about that is that the play before they were kneeling it down and you knew they were kneeling it down. So like you had tons of time to figure out what was going on. It's not like it was like oh my god we gotta figure it out.

It was like okay three plays in a row they took a knee then they're gonna kick the field goal. We got time to figure out what's going on out here, and they still had 12. Full play clock, too, for that last one, like 24 seconds. So there's a lot. I mean, you could have subbed your entire field goal block team on in that exact time. I mean, there was a lot of failures, but that's why the conversation is had. Like, what the hell is going on in Buffalo?

They did sub. They did sub. Definitely the OC's fault, though's why the conversation is had. Like, what the hell is going on in Buffalo? They did something. They did something. Definitely the OC's fault, though. Definitely the OC's fault. Pat, do you hate the Broncos doing a NASCAR kick to end the game when they didn't have to? Do they have any timeouts? No, they didn't have to deal with it.

Yeah, they would have had to kick it with like 18 seconds. Yeah, I think maybe there was a little bit of overreaction. We just wanted to make sure we have our P's and Q's here. At the end of the half, they did it. They executed it properly. This won a lot of time. If we were trying to do this to Vinatieri,

I think Vinatieri would have been like, everybody needs to relax. We got nothing but time. You wave a towel, basically, to let everybody know like, hey, hurry up, hurry up, hurry up. I think if I started doing that for that particular one video, we'd put the damn – okay, everybody relax.

Let's make sure we're perfectly – They could have just slowed it down. They could have just slowed it down a little. I mean, eight seconds left. The one – Regular. Yeah, the one thing I will say is Sean Payton, you know, when we were in – when I was in Houston,

we would practice against the Saints every year in preseason. And he practices situations more than anybody I've ever seen. So that is one thing that he and Drew Brees really, really had down and locked in. So when I saw it at the end of the first half, I knew, like, yes, they have practiced this 100 times. Sean Payton is extremely diligent about making sure every single guy in that field knows what needs to happen at the end of halves, what needs to happen at the end of halves, what needs to happen at the end of games,

situations, clocks, all that. So that's one thing that they definitely work on. So I think they probably at the end there could have just slowed down just a second, but it all worked out. Yeah, you've got to major in the minors. You know what I mean? And minors are like NASCAR May Day field goal that will happen once a year, once two years maybe.

They had it in two games. I don't think the second one was needed, but they ended up getting a win. You said one of you played in Houston, and this kind of launched the whole, holy hell, JJ's going back to Houston. D-Bud has a question for you. Yeah, we're not worried about the cardio either. We're still trying to figure out where that billionaire's pickleball court is that you've been playing at.

Oh, yeah, you're right. Weird. Yeah, I know that cardio's on point. But I mentioned him earlier. Sheldon Rankin's big time game this past week. Not a household name, but multiple sacks. And also had that pressure on that pick, one of the picks that burrowed through. Tell the people something about Sheldon that we don't know.

Yeah, Sheldon and his defense. I mean, C.J. Stroud and the offense, rightfully so, getting tons and tons of credit, getting tons of shine for what they're doing. But the defense is doing well, too. D'Amico obviously knows what he's doing. Matt Burke, the defensive coordinator. Sheldon Rankin's just bowling over people. I mean, just running right over the top of somebody,

feeling himself, a little shoulder shrug. Nice sack. Great sack. He had a three-piece in this game. I mean, I love when guys have big games and they're not necessarily household names. Sheldon Reagans misses the sack the first time, pops up off the ground, gets back and still

gets the sack. Watch this. Run him, push him, push him back, shed him, miss the sack. You know what? Let me get back up. I'm going to chase this guy. Great effort. Go get the sack. Finish it. Love it. Oh, yeah. And then here we go. Let's go. Number three. Just a scrum. Just a pure scrum. Let's go. Number three, just a scrum.

Just a pure scrum. Grip strength, grip strength, grip strength, grip strength. That is hard to do. Around the human. Get over here. Get over here. That hurts your fingers. I mean, any of the old guys know that that, AQ, me, AJ, we know.

Those fingers are going to be mangled after you're holding on to a jersey like that. Not a good feeling. So whenever you look at that D-line, you get pretty excited and jacked up about it. You already said you want to play for the Texans this year. What are you thinking? Like, I don't want to do any public negotiation for you. You just love the fact that Houston's in the middle of a run. That is a beautiful thing for not only the franchise,

but the entire city and their fans. Is that what I'm kind of hearing? I mean, I think it's an unbelievably exciting time. They have got a franchise quarterback now who not only plays the game at an unbelievably high level, has legitimately put himself in the MVP conversation, and he also does everything the right way off the field, the way that he goes about his business,

the way that he handles his teammates, the way that he is in the community. So when you have that combination and you have the head coach, who's an extremely smart, diligent, young head coach, who's leading the team in the city the right way. I mean, you put these pieces together. It is an unbelievably exciting time. And CJ asked for the fans to show up this week in a big way at NRG Stadium.

Like, I think that we're about to start to see the energy in Houston reach the old school levels, like the exciting levels. It's going to be a fun time down there, man. Oh, it is going to be a fun time. Oh, okay. Fascinating. I don't know if that means you're going to be there. I'm going to Houston for Thanksgiving week to be with family, just so you know.

So if you see me in Houston, I don't want this to blow up. We're going to eat Thanksgiving dinner. I'll be there all week. Yeah, physical. Before Thanksgiving, obviously. Utilize the Thanksgiving meal as a celebration of passing the physical, being in good enough shape to be back in the Houston Texans franchise, not just on

the damn stadium. On the field. That's right. Well, like a third down package? What are we seeing? You know what I mean? That pickleball? What do we think? He's in shape. Where's that court? Where's that court? I put a tight end. What happened with this?

I don't even know. I caught like the tail. You guys FaceTime me at random times throughout the day, so I'll be just in my kitchen. I'll be on live television. So what happened? I don't even know what's going on with the pickleball stuff. Hey, thanks for answering, by the way.

You and Tony Mule are always the best. A-1. It is good. You know, it's something our show does that I think was potentially viewed as illegal for other shows. We had Ryan Smith on the show, the owner of the Utah Jazz, friend of the program. BYU Cougar, their football team sucks. So bad. He needs to figure out NIL up there quick.

And other things, too, in Utah. What's that, soaking? No, no, no. Some of their local laws they could change, mix it up a little. If I want, soaking? No, no, no. Some of their local laws. They could change. Mix it up a little. If I want a double, just give me a double. What are you talking about? You're not allowed to get doubles. Can't order it in Utah.

They're looking out for you. We were at the airport and that was tough. Double what? You booze bags. Just drink one shot. We just had a great show in Utah. We went to the airport and we wanted to celebrate with a double. That's it. And he said, no.

They wouldn't give you it? No. He said, you can order two drinks at the same time, but I can't pour you a double. No, no, no. Let me tell you a place you need to go, my friend. Wisconsin. Double, triple, quadruple, whatever. Wow.

A little different place. A little different place. But Ryan Smith, owner of the Jazz, friend of the program now at this point, he said you guys play pickleball against each other. And then AJ and I, all of us asked where's the pickleball, and then you weren't an answer either. It kind of sounds weird. You guys got a little Illuminati pickleball that you guys play in the league? On a pickleball court.

Where else would you play pickleball? Where? You both separately said we're real sketchy about it. Acting like it was some underground lair where you might be doing weird things. Bingo. Submarine. Don't put us in AQ's category here with the underground billionaires club, all right? We don't do that weird stuff, sweating on each other.

We're not rubbing up against each other. Dongs out. Yeah. Heard they had a special guest the other day. Henry Cejudo was in town. And apparently he's the man. Stop by the basement. Everybody loved him. I guess he goes hard down there. But anyways, yeah, what underground

basement weird shit are you guys doing in this pickleball thing? I mean, it's pickleball courts, but we don't want people showing up, Adam. What do you mean? I'm not going to tell you the address. Do you want the address? Do I put it on the air? No, you don't have to. I'm sorry. But you guys meet up? Because he lives in a different state than you do.

You guys fly to a pickleball court to play against each other? Is that what happens? You and Phelps. Is it in the sky? You and Phelps and John Raw? Yeah, it is in the sky. Those billionaires are in a different category. How come AQ wasn't invited to this dinner? This is the Arizona Finest?

Where's AQ Shipley at? Real Housewives? I don't get the invite. She's got a chef look like. That's got to be silver. You know Rob, don't you, AQ? AQ, our wives were together. They were.

Our wives, yeah. AQ's working his way in. AQ. Thank you. Hell of a pickleball player. That's a hell of a crew. That is a hell of a crew. JJ, that's an incredible squad

out there arizona really is a fantastic spot huh oh i think you would tell you arizona is a phenomenal place there's so many athletes down here both current and former and um it's really cool to have a friend group like this obviously it was zach and john's birthday they have the exact same birthday so we uh we all went out got ourselves a little dinner had a little fun it was a really really good night happy birthday to them happy birthday guys you guys you guys you guys will like this i i phelps uh phelps has never taken a supplement in his life no creatine no aminos no protein nothing that guy dominated the world with whatever 400 gold medals zero whey protein zero creat creatine, nothing.

I don't believe it. You serious? How'd you find this out? That's what I said. I asked him three times. I was like, dude, I don't believe you. I literally do not believe you. Three workouts?

Nothing? He's all doped up. Nothing, zero. He does the weed. Yeah, he smoked so much weed, which I appreciate. Yeah, that's how it is. That was his PED. Let me go ahead and get some vitamins, THC in me.

And then also, he's like, when you shake his hand, is it like an avatar? Like his arms, right, are built. And then does he have like the webbed hands too? Don't they say like webbed hands? He's like built to be a fish, right? Yeah, and he'll do that back slap thing where, I mean, it is unbelievable. He's incredible. He's impressive.

He told me this was a cool thing. This is like a celebrity name drop thing. But he was like, bring your son. My son's one. He's like, bring your son over. We'll teach him how to swim. I was like, yep, I will bring my son over, and you will teach him how to swim. That would be awesome.

Thank you. Who's coach is a swim coach? Michael Phelps. Might have heard of him. Heard of him? Michael Phelps. Who's his golf coach. Heard of him? Michael Phelps. Who's his golf coach? John Rahm.

Yes, thank you. This is great. This is great. Who coaches him in soccer? Kaylee Awat and Julie Hertz. Oh, great. This is great. I hope this kid turns out to be freaking awesome.

Man, AQ, who coaches your son in swimming? It sounds like I'm trying to get the same coach. Come on. How do I get in here? Yeah, really. Well, you got to get out of that basement. Yeah, exactly. You're rolling around in that basement.

You know what I mean? You got some. Well, JJ said, you know, AQ will tell us how friendly it is. AQ has told us he's had trouble making friends. So, I mean, it makes sense he had to go to the basement because he doesn't get invited out by these guys. That's exactly right. I think we live literally blocks apart. We live like blocks apart.

You don't have to rub it in his face, JJ. All right, Matt, bud. We get it. I don't know why rub it in his face, J.J. And we get it. I don't know why I don't get any calls. Change numbers? When do you get back, AQ, tomorrow? Tonight. Do you want to get dinner?

Hang out tonight. Call you Saturday. Let's go for a walk tomorrow morning. I think the little man for a walk. Yeah! Let's go! Let's go! Yeah, AQ! Yeah, baby a walk. Yeah! That's a felt! That's a felt! Let's go!

It's a huge deal. Don't go to that basement with him. Just go to Houston, Texas. No, I will not be going to the basement. I can tell you that that is something that I don't understand. AQ sells this basement pretty hard.

Ty has a question for you, there. Yeah, AQ sells his basement pretty hard. Yes, he does. They got Henry Sahuda going there. Ty has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, JJ, you mentioned possibly going back to the Lions earlier. When you watch them, how demoralizing would it be to be on a defense? I mean, they're going for it on fourth down all the time. Guys are just running wide open. What do teams in the NFL need to do to try to slow down the Lions right now?

Because they are a juggernaut. Yeah, I mean, I think first and foremost, they have incredible line play, which is great. I think their offense and defensive lines do a great job. I mean, they've obviously built that team from the inside out, which I mean, I think is a massive key to success in this league. But one of the things that I think is fascinating about the Lions, if you just took a casual fan, not somebody that necessarily watches the film or breaks down the stats, but a casual fan, you said, what do you think about when you think about the Detroit Lions? You would say tough, gritty, you know, grinded out. These wins where they kind of do that DMC, you know, all that stuff.

But if you actually look at it, they have one of the top two or three offenses in the NFL. They are putting up numbers at an incredible rate. And that offense is operating so efficiently. They're putting up numbers at an incredible rate, and that offense is operating so efficiently. They're putting up number two in yards per game, 406 yards per game. They're not just grinding it out. They are putting up points.

And then you combine that with Dan Campbell's mentality, with that Detroit tough, gritty mentality, with going for it on fourth down. All of that together in one package is why the Lions are just dominating right now. It's a lot of fun to watch. I think people in Detroit have to be just living the dream right now because they've been an incredible

fan base for a very long time. They've been through some very, very tough years. They deserve to have some fun. This has got to be a whole lot of fun for them. Hell yeah, Foxy. They're averaging 406 yards a game. Averaging.

Okay, so sometimes lower, sometimes much higher. An average of that. How many games has it been since the Pittsburgh Steelers have put up 400 yards of offense? Since Matthew Mayer became, thank you. Is that the number? 57 games? 57. Yeah, I do it every week.

Like on CBS, every week we talk about the Aston North, obviously. But they give me the stat and every single week I know it. It's 57 now. They're averaging what you guys haven't been able to get in 50. Same league. Steelers ran for 200 this week, though. Got to say that. That's a big improvement.

That's even worse, though, here. Were they playing Penn State's defense? But they're 6-3, guys. We do have to get to a point where we're worse, though, here. Were they playing Penn State's defense? But they're 6-3, guys. We do have to get to a point where we're like, okay, they're not putting up the numbers, they're not doing this, not doing that, but they're winning football games. You want to talk about – because I brought this up on CBS on Sunday. Kenny Pickett now hasn't turned the ball over one time in five games.

He hasn't thrown an interception. He hasn't fumbled one time in five games. So, like, they're getting them to the fourth quarter, and then they're finding a way to win the game in the fourth quarter it's not pretty you're not putting up these huge massive numbers they're not throwing the ball over the middle at all literally i mean they are literally not putting the ball over the middle in the field which is wild but they're keeping everything safe they're keeping everything why not yeah why are they throwing them i think it – I mean, I don't know the actual answer to that. I think it's one of two things.

It's either the offense is not coordinating throws over the middle. Is that the coach or Schumer? Dude, how crazy is that? Like, look at that. There is not a single throw between the hashes. Not one single throw between the hashes. Everything is short of 10 yards and outside the numbers basically so that tells me one of two things either we're not scheming up the right plays to get these types of

passes and to have these crossing routes or to get these middle throws or you don't trust to be able to do that it's one of those two things we don't know which obviously tiny spot up for please. But they're winning games, so you can't say too much. They're 6-3. Like, how mad can you be? I'm starting to worry it's not Matthew America's fault because there's some screenshots coming out of wide open, wide receivers running down the middle of the field.

We're hitting our checkdowns, though. Moving the ball down the field. That's something, too. 6-3, though. Moving the ball down the field. You know, that's something, too. Six and three, though. I mean, there's a chance. There is a high, high chance that they are number one in the AFC after this week. Hell, yeah. Let's go.

Wow. If Houston beats the Jags, the Eagles beat the Chiefs, and we beat the Browns, we are number one in the AFC. And listen to the fans. They've never been more grateful for that. That's right. Ain't that right? Very, very right.

And, yeah, that'll be awesome. But, JJ, I did want to ask you. I think I saw TJ played basically every snap on defense on Sunday, and you were talking about how you haven't done any running or anything like that. Is TJ doing extra running? Because he was rushing a lot on Sunday. That's Max Crosby stuff.

Yeah. No, I mean, it's one of those things where you kind of, as a pass rusher, you generally have an idea going into the game when you're going to take your breaks or when it's going to be. And I know for a lot of pass rushers, for myself and for TJ for a long time, it's been generally the third series of each half. That's kind of

that was always my thing. Third series of each half, you're going to sit out the start of it and then you'll go in on the third series of each half. That was always my thing. Third series of each half, you're going to sit out the start of it, and then you'll go in on the third down and you'll kind of get back into it that way. And then throughout the rest, if a drive goes longer than, let's say, five or six plays. Generally for me, it was about

six plays. After six plays, you're pretty much not going to be able to give everything you can possibly give, so you might want to get out at that point. Offensive linemen get out sixth place? We don't believe in rotating. We just go. I mean, yeah, you don't run anywhere. Oh, sure.

You do run. You guys are walking together tomorrow. Yeah, you guys stay in like a three-foot-by-three-foot area the whole time. This is a debate that I love getting into with offensive linemen. I said something stupid one time in college, and my strength coach called me out on it.

I was like, yeah, you give me three months to train, I could be a great offensive lineman. My strength coach whipped his head around. He goes, what the hell did you just say? I wasn't even a starter at that point. I was just speaking reckless. Offensive line is a very tough – I'll give you guys credit. Well, you'd be a tackle, though.

You'd be a tackle. I think you could probably do it, don't you? I mean, I'm trying to be nice about it, but, yes, I still – I do think I could do it. With all due respect, Frank, three months still. Maybe I should start starting over there. Kick, set, punch. Kick, set, punch.

You got to pass off the game. You got to stay square too. Not give anything away. Make sure when you're kicking, you stay square. You got to get to your spot, JJ. I don't know if you know that. If I was playing you, I know you got a different skill set. I'm trying to get to my spot and let you come to me. You know what I mean, JJ? That's what I'm trying to do.

Major keys. Number one, get off my spot, let you come to me. You know what I mean, JJ? That's what I'm trying to do. Major keys. Number one, get off the ball before the ball is actually snapped. Number two, just grab any jersey you can find. They're not going to call it anyway. Don't worry. Are we done? I can hear the ESPN music playing. I want to make sure I time it up properly.

All right. We'll see you guys tomorrow. That's been Trenches Wednesday. You're the best. Boom. You stay classy, San Diego. Missed it. Missed it. Missed it. Yeah. That's been Trenches Wednesday. You're the best. You stay classy, San Diego. Missed it. Missed it.

That's a tough exit because we've been waiting for it all hour. It was perfect. You missed it by two seconds, I think. That's the first time I heard the music. That's the first time I actually got the cue that we're going to... I tried. I tried.

I think you had a pretty good performance. No F-bombs. Why think you had a pretty good performance. What's going on? No F-bombs. Why were you trying to get him to say whale's vagina? Would his grandma be upset with that? Yeah. She's probably not watching anymore. Do you say that to your grandma at Thanksgiving?

Every year. If I was describing that movie, I don't know if she would get the joke, but she might. We don't know your grandma. Are you hosting Thanksgiving, AJ? Yeah, we're having a bunch of people here. All of Ohio, right? Yeah, he's the president of Ohio. JJ, where are you going? Houston?

Is that where your family lives? What family's in Houston? Cush. Brian and Megan and their kids. So everybody, her family are flying. Cush don't work for the Texans right now? No.

No. He's got a gym down there and he coaches his kids baseball and football. Has he gotten smaller? What's he look like? Not a single iota. Him and AJ could still be middle linebackers in the NFL without a doubt. So your guy Cush,

senior bowl, I got a chance to meet him. without a doubt. So your guy, Kush, uh, senior bowl. I got a chance to meet him. What a legend. Yeah. Absolute legend. Uh, I didn't get a chance to,

you know, I wish I was teammates with the guy, to be honest with you. I couldn't even fathom what it was like. I was out one game against you guys. I got suspended because of a little dust up at 4. A.M. Uh,

during, during a bi-week, during a bi-week, I was suspended for a Monday night football game. They brought in a guy to punt, and I forget his name. Good dude. Good dude. Been around the NFL a long time.

And Cush killed that man. Oh, no. Yeah, Cush killed that man. He punted a ball, and he was jogging down the field. Cappanos, wasn't it? Yeah, I think it was Jeremy Cappanos. Oh, no. Cush, I believe.

Earhold him? Yeah. Oh, boy. And this guy turned that son of a bitch sideways. He hit the ground, and I was watching it, and I'm like, God damn. I am happy. At halftime, they had to get, like, Captain was like, I think I'm good for the rest of the game.

They were like, no, we need you. Get out there. Yeah, we need you. So, I've always in my head been like, man, I'm fucking thankful that Cush decided to kill the punter in the one game that I missed this entire thing. He's a psycho, man. I'll never forget the game that picture is from where he willingly took off his own helmet to then headbutt a man with a helmet on. I mean, that is unbelievable stuff.

Thanks for your service to football, Cush. What a legend, dude. That's old football, Kush. Love you, Kush. What a legend, dude. That's old school, man. Him, Clay Matthews. I mean, that USC defense that they had back then was great. Oh, my gosh. Ray has the heaviest head ever.

Like, man, those, yeah, that's a crew. And Feely Mwala was a D tackle for that team. He came to the Colts. So it was Feely, Clay, Ray, Cush. That was the – they were all at the senior bowl or whatever. It was like a pretty good squad. Taylor Mays too. Taylor Mays.

Taylor Mays. Taylor Mays, the single – like if you were going to have a football player sent somewhere and be like, this is what a football player looks like, Taylor Mays was probably the best silhouette of a football player ever created. Dog. That USC team back then. Unbelievable. So sweet. That was fun. Yeah. Now, what are they going to do? What are they going to do? Oh, here we go. Ah!

Watch. What? Now takes off his own helmet. Takes off his own helmet. Alright, this guy wants some, huh? Oh! Alright, that's it, bitch! Oh! That guy, whenever he hits, yo, bro, you got What a T.J. probably hates you. That guy, whenever he hit me, yo, bro, you got no hope.

T.J. Ward. You're bleeding like crazy. What's wrong with this white dude? This guy. This guy's crazy. This guy's a crazy man. Took his helmet off two headbutts. Have you seen this?

D'Amico. D'Amico. Head coach of the Houston Texans. Yeah, you're all right. Yeah, he gave me a couple. Yeah, linemen should get penalized. Jeez. Definitely. Dude, that defense was wild, man. We also had Kareem Jackson, he gave me a couple. Yeah, linemen should get penalized. Jeez. Definitely.

Dude, that defense was wild, man. We also had Kareem Jackson, who obviously we don't. I mean, just lays hits on people left and right. We had guys. We had dudes on that defense. We had Mario Williams. We had Antonio Smith. Connor Barlow and Brooks.

I mean, that defense was loaded. Jonathan Joseph at the corner. Glover Quinn. Was Swearinger there yet? Not yet, but he was there a couple years later, yeah. He'd lay the lumber. Who was the dude you guys had on special teams? Long hair.

Brian Braman. Dog. A guy with a dog. I used to hear his name a lot. Fascinating human being. Not his actual name. Fascinating. Yeah, they used to describe him by the size of his head.

Huge head. Yeah. Dome. His head was the longest head I've ever seen in my life. He used to stick out underneath the helmet. Like a horse. And that helmet was coming right from my fucking right leg every time I kicked. Every single time. This guy with his hair. He was somehow jumping the snap. He knew exactly where he was at.

He broke my leg one day, but my leg didn't break somehow. Nice. Which is really cool. guy dog the monster yeah super bowl champ won a super bowl with the eagles yeah he's a huge part of i couldn't imagine him and i lost this dude was awesome he does have a long face i love i love braymond dude that guy he came uh one day in the locker room he came up to me and he was like freaking out and i was was like, Brian, what's going on, man? He's like, dude, I got to go take my physical. And I was like, okay, what about it? And he was like, I think they're going to fail me, man.

I got terrible teeth. And I was like, what? He's like, I think they're going to fail me, man. I got terrible teeth. I was like, Brian, I can promise you one thing. They're not going to fail you for your teeth. Yeah, I'm happy to hear that. All right, so the guy is just as big as a legend as all right he's ripped by the way he's shredded oh yes so all

this guy guy guy fast as hell huge and not not afraid of anything we'll just throw his head anywhere i mean anywhere great great man this is getting a little trip down memory lane isn't it This is getting a little trip down memory lane, isn't it? Jesus. Oh, what a pick. Absolutely strapped this guy. But, yeah, it's kind of nice trip down. Yeah, he was, yeah.

Yeah, dude, his body was wrapped around my leg. Like, literally wrapped around my leg while I was kicking. Kicked the ball still. He was wrapped around my knee like, you missed it, bud. You're about a yard off there. You know what I mean? But his body. How many punts did you have blocked in your career?

I think he blocked two. I think he got two on me. I think. I think that's it. Those are the only ones ever? I think. There it is. Yeah.

He's way off. I punt that ball. I still punt that ball. Shut up. No big deal. What? Yeah, my leg bends around his body. I still pumped that ball. 37-year-old. Shut up. No big deal. Yeah, my leg bends around his body. Should have been completely broken. Like, should have been.

But his ripness actually acted like a cast on my leg as it wrapped around it. He did apologize. Like, he said, are you all right? Is what he said. Nice. Yeah, I think. What the hell? Hey, fuck you, dude. What was that?

He was a dog. Oh, we're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. Yeah, we're good, we're good, we're good We're good Yeah, we're good We're on YouTube We're on YouTube

That's what I want That picture looks like it's snapped ligaments It looks like it's broken bones Yeah 31-yard punt, I think Boom Just something to talk about Speaking of athlete

Hey, JJ, how many people you got? No, no, no, no, no, no Oh, with that Burnley stalk going the other way. We got some relegation coming up. We ain't doing that many giveaways. I saw the lacrosse throw yesterday. That was horrendous. So I hope you have another one of those. It wasn't with a lacrosse

ball. It's a hockey ball. And also, I want to hit the... You know, that's not good for the viewer. You didn't even make it halfway. You didn't even get halfway. Bro, should I aim high here? Oh, yeah. Be careful. You don't want that not good for the viewer. You didn't even make it halfway. You didn't even get halfway. Bro, should I aim high here? Oh, yeah. Oh, be careful. You don't want that thing to hit any lights.

I don't think, but I think it'll stick to it longer. All right, so if I make this with your shit-talking ass, it sounds like you're getting back in the Sunday mood. Yeah. Big time. That's why he's going to Cushing's. Go through a nice little workout, see if he still got it. Yeah.

Hey, Cush, take me to your gym. Test me. Let's get my, put the mask on me. Yep. Like the Gatorade commercial. Uh-huh. Let me see my resting metabolic rate. Turn on, remember the name.

My big lung thing. Yeah. This is 20% luck. 40% skill. 50% cardio. Power will. You know what I mean? That's what it's going to be.

How many, what am I doing here? What the fuck? I mean, is this how I hold this thing?. What am I doing here? What the fuck? Is this how I hold this thing? Maybe move that top hand up. No, no, no. Put the Golden Dome helmet on. It helps. Yeah, you're right.

You're right. Half-assed it. Got a fresh new haircut. Does Tyler throw lacrosse balls around? I would assume so. This one ain't going to fit. I don't think this one's going to fit. It's buckled.

That looks cool. That looks cool. That looks cool. I will give you that. What's up, boys? Is that a real helmet? Yeah, it's a golden dome. Oh, yeah. They wear the chrome.

Let's just call it Power Cradle. That's Power Cradle. I'm Power Cradle. If you want to do a front cradle. Who? I'm doing a full whoop-de-loo? Yeah, if you want. Whoop-de-loo.

Oh, you worried now, huh? How about this? 25 people, $500. I put this hockey ball out of the lacrosse stick into that hoop right over there, JJ. After yesterday's performance, I'm willing to risk that, yes. Let's make it 30 people then. Yeah. 30 people.

Let's go with 50. I'm retired. I don't got the cash flowing in. Yeah, but you're getting back on the field. We just learned that today. That was a big takeaway from today is you're playing for the Houston Texans this year. Yep. That's cool.

Next week. No, he's out on Detroit. Yeah. He loves Michigan. Yeah, but big power cradle. I play well in that stadium. Every time I've played in that stadium, I love it. I love playing in Detroit.

Well, the Houston stadium as well. Yeah, touchdown on Thanksgiving. There it is. The hands were perfect. Right here? Yeah. All right, JJ, this is your ass. 30 people, $500 when this hockey ball is in there.

Don't be afraid to fucking whip that thing either. All right. He seems afraid. Oh, yeah, there we go. That's what I'm talking about. Nice. I am tired. You got through that.

I mean, that's a goal. Yeah. Bottom line. Yeah, that's a goal. Lacrosse is tough, dude. It's a tough sport. I don't think I fully understand it. I wasn't built for it

i don't think i was built for my head doesn't fit you're more of a side shot guy yeah agreed same rules apply oh oh no no no no yep yep oh well holy shit jj at the buzzer there splash there's there was there was noash. There was no agreement there. There was no agreement. All right. Hope you're happy. That was great. Hey, today's was a good one.

Today's felt like a good one. Great. Yeah. A lot of energy, a lot of juice. Fantastic. Yeah, it was really good. I mean, if people don't love this show, they got to check themselves. They need to check themselves.

JJ, there's a lot of people checking stuff out then. You know what I mean? From what I've been told. Nonetheless, I appreciate the hell out of you, buddy. We'll see you next week. Appreciate you, boys. Have a great one. Will we see him? Back in the Houston Texans locker room.

From the team facility, yeah. When's that happening, you think? I might train there. I train there a lot. Whoa. Okay, so let's just. It's a great gym. We're spitballing here.

Spitball. What would be the perfect week to get back? Like 13 probably. Yeah. 13 feels like 18-week season. 13th week feels like the right one. A little bit over a month to get to your best football, which is going to be playoffs.

Or maybe a week before then so you can get back into football shape? What do we – if you had to, just spitball. Just spitball. I mean, you know how nice it is to wake up on a Monday morning and just feel good? It just feels great. That was my question. Like, that is the one thing that – trust me, I'll think about it.

I'm not opposed to thinking about it. But, like, when you actually wake up on a Monday morning and your fingers feel good, your back feels good, your legs, your knees feel good, you're like, why would I not want this every time? Because legacy. Yes, right. And an environment and a culture, one that you cultivated for a long time, seems to be back better than ever.

Former teammate of yours is now leading the prize. I mean, here we go. Perfect. That's why you would do that. And how many Mondays do you have in the offseason? How many Mondays do you have forever? So many. So many Mondays to feel good.

So many Mondays to feel good. How's your daughter doing, by the way? I haven't asked about her in a while. How's your daughter? Well, I don't like how you just handled that but i do appreciate you bringing up mckenzie she's great got great personality she's standing she's moving she might walk before she crawls which is i don't know if that's good or that's bad love everything about her mama kicking ass it's great how about you how's parenting that's great man i love it i love it it's great he's he's walking

around he's he's like he's moving fast now now. So even like we're trying to get him, he's kicking a soccer ball around the backyard a little bit, like just accidentally, which is great. It's awesome. It's the best. Imagine him on the sideline while turned down for what's playing. He's doing it. Daddy.

AQ will tell you tomorrow after our walk. You can see him tomorrow on the walk. Let's go. Maybe AQ. Can't wait. Hey, let's make sure we understand. Weather's great right now. You're in retirement.

You're losing weight. Yep. He's coming back, so let's make sure we do a little brisk walk. Yeah. A little cardio. Test it. A little conditioning. Yeah.

He said he hasn't run. We're going to get a little pace going. Yeah. There you go. I don't know how AJ. AJ, how many kids do you really have? Four. Dude, that is a lot of work.

That is an incredible amount of work. You guys will be there soon. I don't think we're going to four, man. I do not think we're going to four. Are you done? Yeah, we're probably done. We're not officially done. I'm not... Whoa!

We both... Well, yeah, we should be done. Yeah, we're done, most likely. Look at me. We both, well, yeah, we should be done. Yeah, we're done most likely. Look at me. This guy's awesome. Snip, snap, snip, snap. We're both like 1%. We're both in the same mindset. We're like, yeah, we'd take another one, but we're not.

Oh, another dead teaser. Holy hell. They're adding JJ to the team. They're signing. I think they are. Also, with the show schedule, it's hard to try to get in and get clipped as well. That's another thing that adds to it. Like, when would I go?

What, snip snap? Do it at your house now. How long does it take? How long? If they can come to your house. Yeah, Bob will do it for you. Yeah, you're right, Bob. I can call a couple of my friends.

Where are you guys this weekend? JMU. Harrison Burke. Nice. Nice. Hell yeah. That's in Virginia JMU. Harrison Burke. Nice. That's in Virginia. It is. It's in the hills of Virginia. Western Virginia.

Which I'm excited to get down there. Pumped. A lot of friends live closer there than I went to school in West Virginia. I think it's only very close to the West Virginia border. That's awesome. I'm excited to get down there. Should should be fun. I'm learning a lot about them. They have the biggest crowd, maybe on record,

for College Game Day. The last time they were there. It was the most amount of humans, I think, from what I've been told and what I've seen. I'm pumped to get down there, JJ. You want to come? Jonas Brothers are performing. Yeah! Jonas Brothers are performing? Joe Bros, Saturday morning.

Wow. It's their new song. Joe Bros, Saturday morning. Goddamn right. You heard him right. Wow. Strong enough. It's their new song. Yeah, it's sick. It's a good one. Also, play the hits. Let's not go too far away from the hits, too.

I don't think you're going to be hearing the hits on Saturday. This is a new hit. No, Burn It Up? Oh, what? Is it like a two-hour concert? They always play Burn It Up. Okay. I think they're playing Strong Enough during the program.

Okay. And then i believe there is a little bit okay extra joe bros oh yeah i think so from what i've been told just ear to the ground on situation because i've been on joe bro strain for a long time oh yeah can't wait to meet nick and joey and logan yeah maddie maddie and jeff joey and logan who's the guest picker? I don't know. I do not know. The other brother.

It's not the Joe Bros. It's not the Joe Bros. They're performing. Okay. Right. Okay, they're going to be. I got a question because I haven't followed it closely enough. How do you choose how much money the kick's worth every week?

It just goes up. It's gone up. It's just kind of gone up. All right. Because like one week I saw it was like 225 grand. Well. That was. 50 grand.

Okay. Okay. So it starts with just my money and then herb street will get a look at the person that's kicking and then get a little information and then herbie will be like for this i'll match if this if this one goes in i'll match and then one time desmond was peer pressured into being forced to also match so it got up to 225 000 but they literally uh there was no shot of that particular one going in. It was the lacrosse ball of kicks

is what it was. Don't like what you just did there but yes, that is an accurate assessment. We appreciate you. You'll match this weekend yeah? 95,000 or 90,000? Absolutely not. No, I won't. JMU seems like they could have some good kickers in the crowd. They seem like they could have some good kickers in the crowd

and no. It's for the crowd. They seem like they could have some good kickers in the crowd. It's for the kids. All right, thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who is in the Houston Texans ring of honor and will be the first player to ever play in a stadium in which he has been memorialized on the stadium. J.J. Watt. Thank you, buddy. Yeah, J.J.

Joining us now is a six-year nfl vet man out of university of maryland playing the nfl then he would go on to the wwe and become a man who people ask questions who's hotter not nada than this man ladies and gentlemen top dollar top man thanks for having me man It's about to go down. Nailed it. That's good Pittsburgh East, pal. I appreciate the hell out of you. How have you been? You look fantastic, brother.

I'm blessed, man. I'm just very grateful for this opportunity from you. You know, I got a really big event this weekend as the Maryland Terrapists take on number two, Michigan. You know, we're going to knock the Wolverines off. You know, it's an away game, so you never know what they might be up to. But, you know, we got the canned food drive going. You know, we're feeding a lot of homeless kids and families in Severn, Maryland, man. It's a really good opportunity for me to give back to my community.

You can bring canned foods, non-perishables baby wipes baby formula baby diapers anything to the gates of the game when you pull up and it'll be a good time man yeah and we got a chance to chat with you last year whenever you did this and we were so impressed by it because we thought it was awesome you were like directly across the street i believe from the place that this benefits and obviously you're a maryland alum doing it on the biggest weekend near the holiday season is a beautiful thing would definitely have you back to chat about it brother how can people who aren't absolutely man how can people who aren't in maryland help uh if we wanted to dive in aj uh i believe i i gave the your producer the uh the link you can donate directly to sarah's house man um you can donate directly

to catholic charity in Maryland. The University of Maryland helps me out with them a lot. When you donate to a man, it goes directly to them. Like I said, 80% of the people at Sarah's house are kids. So that's why it holds a special place in my heart to be able to give back to them, man. And shout out to all the sponsors like Tones Pass and Global Athletics that helped me put this event on, man. It's a really good time. And one of these days, we got to get you guys out there on man it's a really good time and you know

one of these days we gotta get you guys out there man you know what i'm saying hell yeah football season is a little bit wild but maybe if maryland gets a little bit better yeah there will be a chance to go there until then we will certainly support your cause go ahead hawker how was it i'm curious last year i believe you did this drive during the ohio state game how have you seen this thing grow this is what the seventh annual i believe How have you seen this thing grow? This is, what, the seventh annual, I believe you said. So, like, how is it going from year one to now? It's been great, man. Like, the growth every year is crazy because I get more opportunities

to share the word thanks to guys like you. Ohio State, we almost – we had a close game with y'all last year, man, but you guys ended up pulling it out. It's funny because we always end up getting Ohio State or Michigan or Penn State for this game. So it's like a blessing from above to be able to get a good game with a good crowd to be able to have people give back. I heard you talk

a little bit about the away games and who knows what's going to be going on. Connor Stallion has resigned and he's left the Michigan football program, so we'll never hear from him again. This Michigan team, though,, they're good. And there's a chance, and we're just kind of floating it out there in hopes of it happening.

John Harbaugh, head coach of the Ravens, plays on Thursday game in Maryland. Maybe he's head coach of Michigan this week. Maybe a guest head coach. I don't know how Maryland folks would feel about it. But how's your Maryland team? Special guest referee? Yeah, special guest. Exactly. But how do you feel about the Maryland team and what do you think about the whole Michigan story

as a man who obviously Maryland great and played in the NFL people forget about that because your WWE success yeah it's funny because people act like Michigan's the only college that sends people to away games like we all know that's not the case, right? We're not going to talk about it. People ain't going to admit to it, but everybody knows that everybody is trying to get every advantage. Every, you know, assistant GA on the sideline is watching the other team put signals in to try

to read their signals during the game. In the NFL, we're watching the TV copy so we can get the snap count. You know, like we're doing all the things to try to get the advantages that people don't talk about, right? But, you know, when you get caught in those situations, you know, you got to pay the Pied Piper. That's how it is. But it is really good to be able to, like, you know, see the fact that the Michigan Wolverines are number two in the country and they're coming into College Park. And if Maryland knocks them off, you know, my boy Lox, he's going to be 7-5, 7-4, I think, you know.

And, you know, they're already bowl eligible, thank God, and they'll be able to get a lot more opportunities going forward if he gets the biggest win of his tenure as the head coach at Maryland. Maryland and Rutgers going to Big Ten at the same time, right? Yeah. So Rutgers stinks so bad. There's a conversation. You know what I mean? Maryland now, we're bowl eligible.

Here we go. Let's get this thing rolling as the Big Ten continues to grow. How is WWE going? What do we got? What are we doing? Where are we at? You know, at the end of the year, we'll be going somewhere else. Oh, I didn't know that.

We got a big free agent. Top dollar is about to be on the market. Yeah, so at the end of the year, we'll be going somewhere else. But, you know, it's a good time, man. I'm very grateful, very blessed for the opportunities they provided for me, you know, while I was there. And at the end of the day, man, I wanted to be in WWE my whole life. And I've been in WWE for the last three years. And, you know, going forward, there is nothing that is going to stop me from wrestling, man.

I love it so much. You know what it's like, man. Like I said this before, I play Thursday night football, Thanksgiving night, make a TFL to help, you know, beat the Giants on Thanksgiving night. And that compares to nothing like walking through that curtain, man. You know what I'm saying? Like there's nothing like it. You know what that is, man. that curtain, man. You know what I'm saying?

There's nothing like it. You know what that is, man. And I might not be the leading tackler in the history of my football teams, but I am the leading tackler in the Francis family, so I'll take that. Hell yeah, as you should. You had a great career, both in the NFL and in WWE. Can't wait to see what you do next. And you're giving back to your community.

I'm always going to be a big fan of Top Dollar. I appreciate the hell out of you, man. No, I appreciate you guys, man. I thank you guys for having me on. And, you know, I wish Pac was here because I had a bar for him. But, you know, I'm going to just let it go. Hey, Pac, actually, today, massive day for Pac. Huge day.

Massive day for Pac, man. Yeah. Hey, speaking of bars, I mean, obviously, you were putting out, like, a song every two days on your Twitter and absolutely murdering everything. Pac-Man's rap career, I think he's about to take a massive, a massive, massive move from what we're here. Let's go, Pac. Let's go, you. Ladies and gentlemen, Maryland. Hey, yeah, shout out to you, too, ladies and gentlemen.

AJ Francis. Thank you, buddy. All right, so Sarah's House. Got to help that out. Anybody give them back to the community? I think it's a good thing. It's the time of year to do it. Yeah, I think it's a good time to do it.

You're right. Getting into the holiday season, A.J., you got any big plans to maybe make the world a better place? I don't know. I'll just go about my life just like I always have. So no. So he could have said, I could donate Sarah's House. It was like right there on a plate.

Yeah, I mean, of course I would do that. We don't need to sit out here and broadcast that to everybody. Let me hire a camera crew to show me go buying kids coats too while I'm at it. Well, listen, I've always had the mindset to just give away stuff. Always have. And whenever you try to help out charities and stuff like that, you never want to be the person that's like, I just want to do this for the fulfillment and for for the feel and they're like no we got filming

we gotta do this entire thing and you then you like hear from the people why they want to do and they're like you might inspire others you know if they know that this is even possible or that you're doing this there might be others that are inspired to do it not only like people uh that are fans of yours potentially but also other people who are in a similar position as you, they see that you're doing this and know that this is possible. So that kind of turned me a little bit on like, okay, whenever people do good things and they feel the need to tell everybody about it, it's not necessarily just because they're fucking egotistical maniacs and want the world to think they're doing good things. There's also a chance that they might inspire others to

know that it's even possible and get it moving. So I've come around on that whole thing. I've come around on that whole thing. But with that being said, A.J. Hawk's donating to Sarah's house. So should you. Amen. Thank you, A.J. Thank you, A.J. A.J. Hawk, speech for being such a good guy and donating. No, I think what you said is right.

I don't judge anybody. If it's public and you see it, I think it's great. It'll bring in more money or whatever. But that's just not my personality. Just like if I try to come up with like a oh let me post something on instagram like i'm no i just don't have it you're an influencer that's right we've seen you in the wild yep absolutely ice cold miller light right oh you're right yep what a campaign what a campaign we had. So many Miller Lights were moved.

Oh, my God. People opened their phone and, holy fuck, give me a Miller Light. I need it right now. All right, let's talk about some other stories that are happening before we make a massive play in the college basketball world. Yeah.

People say, Pat, you guys never talk about college basketball. We never had rights to college basketball. True, true. Now at ESPN, we have rights to all the college basketball. Yeah, everything. Like the good college basketball. Great college basketball.

State Farm Classic Championship Bonanza. Yeah, State Farm Champions Classic, also known as the State Farm Champion Classic Bonanza. Yeah, it tipped off last night. We're able to just show those clips. Ty is going to break it down for us here in a matter of moments. I would like to talk to you, AJ, about Deshaun Watson being out for the season because I don't think we've

gotten a chance to really chat about it with you since you've come on the program. We led the show with it, obviously, breaking news this morning. Deshaun Watson's playing his best football in the second half of this last game. The whole time he had a sprained ankle and a fractured bone in his shoulder. After scans and

multiple opinions, doctors told him he needs to get surgery to get this thing fixed. What a bummer for the Browns fans. What a bummer for the Browns. And what are your thoughts on this entire thing and how people are going to judge it down the road here? Well, I mean, people, I guess, I think a lot of people have their, whatever they feel about Deshaun, they might stick with that, whatever. But he was playing good football.

And now, like, the narrative has changed a little bit. Before, we felt like Stefanski was saying, hey, he can play and he's almost making the choice to not play to now we're hearing that he wanted to get shot up and continue playing, which I would believe that. Absolutely. He continued and played very well in the second half after this injury, right?

Didn't you guys run a clip of that one? It's a pretty nasty shot he took. Yeah, it was the second quarter he got injured is what Adam Schefter said. Halftime probably got shot up a little. Oh, yeah. Definitely probably got some medicine there. And like I said, that adrenaline is a motherfucker. All of us probably done played through some shit,

and then you wake up that next morning like, whoa, and you're out for maybe two, three weeks after, but you got through, you know, those two quarters. So, you know, it was that narrative out there that he was soft, didn't want to play, didn't want to play through some shit because of some miscommunication, I think, from the team in his camp. So it was good that they kind of put that out.

I heard somebody earlier say maybe some reporters carrying the water for Deshaun. Holding. Holding the water. And that was the person. I guess it was that person back there. He has a beard. I mean, I can't wait to see him back out there with the guys next year. Dude, my big thing, AQ, is that, like, he was getting better.

You saw it. You actually watched it from one week to the next. He's getting better at football. Then he had that setback earlier in the year with his shoulder. Different injury, I've been told. Not the same injury. He had a setback earlier in the year with his shoulder. And then you had to see him.

All right, now we've got to get back into it. Now we're about to be in year three of this contract, $63.9 million cap hit next year. Next three years. Next three years straight. And it's like he's going to have to work his way back again. Obviously, they're going to have to be patient with him because that's the contract, but do you think he'll be able to get back after another year off

and away from football, AQ? This is what we've been waiting for, to see what we saw this past week. We've been saying, like, when is this ever going to going to happen it finally happens and now we get this setback but you just hope he can come back like kyler kyler showed no signs of rust i mean that was incredible i mean he had everything so like you hope that deshaun can do that what was that make sense what was that well the only thing the only thing like we about this earlier. The third down play. It was awesome. It was awesome.

They got a Skycam. Skycam play. They got the Bijon Robinson camera. On Kyler Murray. What is happening? It was one of the coolest plays of all time. Look at this video. You see this guy on a big-time third down late in the game.

Kyler Murray, his first game back. Let me scan the field. Nobody's open. Roll to my left. Oh, no. Shake. Bake. Mistake.

I'm Kyler Murray. You're not scrambling we're running i was drafted top 10 in the mlb number one in football i'm back what is it first time yeah that's in our first time kyler murray's out going left going right that's first time that's what he said your entire take on this is that's spectacular spectacular, but shouldn't happen. Well, that's basically what I said. But listen, listen, that's who he is, right? Why shouldn't it happen? What do you mean? So if you watch the play, AJ, right?

Like we do, we like to watch plays. We like to go and break it down, right? The blitz is coming from the left. Why would you ever run left? What is your problem? Last thing they'd expect. Why would you run left to start? You know the blitz.

If you see it and you understand the protection, why are you run left to start? You know the blitz. If you see it and you understand the protection, why are we going left to start? Now, having said that, having said that, this is what makes sense. Well, that's why I run left. To set him up. Yeah, to set him up.

That's what he wanted to do? Yeah. He wanted to go left to set up a loop-de-loop, run back 20 to run 10? Wasn't he your teammate? He threw the bait out there. I'm just calling a play out.

Kyler doesn't think like us. Yeah, he thinks like Kyler. Yeah. You're right. Anyways,'m just calling a play out. Kyler doesn't think like us. Yeah. He thinks like Kyler. Yeah. You're right. Anyways, there has been potentially a thought that Kyler doesn't necessarily know exactly what the defense is doing every single play because his athleticism and his natural ability has been able to carry him to wherever. I think we see a different Kyler right now.

Absolutely. I'm loving this particular Kyler. I mean, it was an awesome play. That won the game. That play won the game. Oh, yeah. Third and ten. But you said something about a comparison to Deshaun there?

Yeah, you started giggling like a little schoolgirl. You just hope that he comes back and shows no rust. I mean, the way that Kyler was able to run this game, that blew me away. Because I thought coming off the ACL, I was like, there's no way. He's going to have the same explosiveness. He does. Mental hurdles as well, potentially. He got through it all. Regardless of how you feel about Deshaun,

if you're a fan of players getting guaranteed contracts and shit like that, you want him to come back and play well because this is going to be an example that every owner points at. Already are. This is why we don't fully guarantee your contracts, even at the quarterback position because either Hurd or this or that.

So you want him to come back and have a healthy career if you're another quarterback or another player in the NFL trying to get fully guaranteed deals. Unfortunately, whether he comes back and plays well or not, it doesn't matter. A lot of people are like, are you worried the Browns got shot? Just give it time. The Browns will happen. When the Jets got Aaron,

just give it time. The Jets will happen. That's true. Lions, great story right now. Give it time. Shut up, time. The Jets will happen. That's true. Lions, great story right now. Give it time. Shut up, Tony. Shut your mouth, Tony. Some franchises that never going to happen. And you think this is just a classic Browns?

I feel bad for them. And that's why, you know, I didn't laugh. I don't want to kick a team when they're down or anything like that. Honorable. It's a shame because it's always going to happen to them, unfortunately. Yeah, and somebody said something about Cleveland not having nice things. Oh, Shefty did. Is this why Cleveland can't have nice things?

You know, Deshaun's finally playing like what they paid him to play like, and now he's gone for the rest of the year, obviously. They got a defense that could go win a championship and everything like that. I had to remind them, Jack's Casino, downtown Cleveland. Great place. Great casino. It's been there for Jack's Casino, downtown Cleveland. Great place. Great casino. Yeah. It's been there for a long time.

That's right. Still there. They have a lot of nice things in Cleveland. For some reason, the Browns just don't end up being one of them. Yeah, I mean, the reason they don't have nice things is because they spit in the football guy's face when Baker Mayfield turned around their entire organization and beat the Steelers in Heinz Field when it was Heinz Field without Kevin Stefanski.

But that's neither here nor there. That's what I would point to. Like, hey, Baker Mayfield, did he win rookie of the year that year? Because I believe he set the record for most rookie passing touchdowns. I don't know. And then they shipped him out of town. So, like, that's one thing where, similar to what Tony said, like the Jets, the Jets will be the Jets forever.

That is what I look to for Cleveland is that they ran Baker out after he kind of turned everything around. All right, ladies and gentlemen, it's time to pivot away from Deshaun Watson being out for the rest of the year and turn our sights to college hoops. Hell yeah. Ty Schmidt, last night, the Allstate State Farm Classic Championship Bonanza showcased four incredible teams. What did we miss if we potentially didn't watch the entirety

of both of those? First up, we had Duke and Michigan State in just an absolute barn burner. Duke ended up pulling away and winning 74-65. They had four guys scoring in double figures. That's the big thing here. We do have the Kentucky-Kansas

highlights going on right now, which is actually the second game, but that's okay. We here. We do have the Kentucky-Kansas highlights going on right now, which is actually the second game, but that's okay. So we'll just switch to that one real quick. Kansas, number one team in the country, very, very good. Hunter Dickinson, who was an absolute dog at Michigan. Absolutely. He decided to transfer. He basically, Bill Self, talked to him and said,

hey, you want to play for a championship? Come here. Don't worry about playing at Michigan. He was talking shit last night, talking to the crowd, talking shit to the other team as well. I don't know what the hell's going on with the highlights here. They're kind of bouncing back and forth in between.

Hunter Dickinson finished with 27 points and had 21 rebounds for Kansas. They beat Kentucky. Again, we'll see both these blue Bloods down the road. Michigan State, we've talked about it a little bit in the Duke game. They've started this year so far eight of 50 from three. Eight of 50. It's their worst shooting start in 25 years. And you see Duke here, they got, again, they're kind of still trying to find their way a little

bit since Coach K left. John Shire's done a really good job. They have another big guy, Kyle Philpaski, who could be a lottery pick kind of down the road. But these early games, I mentioned earlier, Feast Week coming up, we're going to get a lot of big-time matchups between power conference teams. These teams always shoot like shit in the early part of the season. That's kind of just how it always goes. Big guys dominate. They like to pound the ball inside.

And then as we get to the conference schedule, teams will kind of start to find their footing a little bit and hit shots. So, yeah, I mean, if you're looking for something to watch midweek, you know, these next two to three weeks here, and you don't want to just settle for match in and watching, you know, Eastern Michigan and Miami of Ohio play every single week. You're going to get a lot of ranked matchups, especially around Thanksgiving with teams playing in the Bahamas

and San Diego and different kind of warm locales like that. So while it doesn't really matter that much because, you know, like, I mean, Michigan State is 1-2 right now. That doesn't mean shit. They're going to be fine because they're going to do very well in the Big Ten schedule. Amen. It's a lot of good early season indications like,

oh, this team might be a player come March. Okay, we can get a little scotty. Exactly. We can corner stallions this. You can corner stallions, advance, scout some of these teams here. So, like, you know, Kansas, obviously, they're ranked number one, but they're going to be absolute dogs come March. Duke, they'll be very good.

Kentucky, young team, but Coach Cal's always kind of got these young guys who it takes them a while. I mean, he always says before every game basically like, well, shit, I just hope we don't get beat by 20. Every time they have a ranked matchup, he says something like that before the game, kind of underselling what they can do. They had Kansas on the ropes last night. Kansas kind of has a little

bit more senior leadership, so they ended up going on a big run to close it out. But yeah, a lot of good teams in college basketball, and we'll kind of see. Ty, you just ran off a couple blue bloods. It's like you might have missed one. No, I know you're talking about UConn, but UConn played like South Butthole State

last night, so we're not going to win. We don't know yet. We don't know yet. I just want to know who's going to be there. They will be. That's the other big thing is right now there is the Levitt tip-off games, which is Big East versus Big Ten. So, UConn, they'll have a tough matchup against the Big Ten team, I believe, on like Friday or this weekend. So, you know, again, you've got've got these inter-conference rivalries early

on. It's nice. It's a little bit different than college football. We mentioned it earlier. A couple of the good teams will schedule other good teams, but most of the time the prominent schools are scheduling cupcakes. Not quite like that in college basketball. We're seeing the teams that are good play against each other. College basketball was electrifying last time.

I had no idea it was on. Then I was watching. I'm like, here we go. We got some names I know. Bill Self, Calipari. Here we go. Duke's out here doing it. Michigan State fresh off a loss to James Madison. I mean, it was a big night. I was excited for it.

And it means we don't really have the opportunity to show college basketball in the past. So this year, we're going to be able to talk about it a little bit more. We're going to be able to enjoy it a little bit more. And we're going to be able to affect it a little bit more. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is the number one point guard in the country of the 2024 high school class we saw some highlights earlier this dude's got moxie he's got swag on the court he's an absolute problem his father played for baylor back in the day so he's's got some lineage of being an incredible basketball

player. Ladies and gentlemen, I believe to declare his commitment of where he will play college basketball. Joining us now at a Link Academy in Missouri of Dallas, Texas, though, Trey Johnson III. Trey, thank you so much for joining us, brother. This is probably an incredibly exciting time for you and your family. How are you handling it all? How is life in high school right now? Thank you for having me. Everything's just been good. Me and my family are doing good.

High school has been good. Just focused on basketball right now. Okay, so you go to Link Academy in Missouri, but you're from Texas, right? How many different places we're trying to get you to play for them? I don't think I fully understand the high school basketball conversation just yet. Yeah, I'm from Dallas. I went to Lake Holland my first three years, and I just went to Link Academy just for better competition,

to play a better schedule overall, just to get better overall. Okay, you're the number one point guard in the country. Hey, let's go. Yeah. Hell yeah. There's a lot of people dribbling the ball, passing the ball in the country. Congratulations. Let's go. There's a lot of people dribbling the ball, passing the ball in the country. This is number one. And I've been told that it has come

down to two colleges now that could potentially have your talents next year. Baylor, where your dad went to school, or Texas, where I believe your favorite player of all time, Kevin Durant, obviously went to school. I think you had a workout with him this past summer. Trey,

if you would like to let the world know where you'll be taking your incredible talents next year, we would be honored to be in your presence while doing so. Yes, sir. I'll be going to the University of Texas. Hooker! Hey, way to go, Trey.

Happy for you. Now, dad going to be happy about this? How's the family going to respond, do you think? I'll talk to him about it. He'll be okay with it. He'll live. When he talked to Kevin Durant and got to work out with him, how much did he have say in this entire thing or influence in this all?

And what do you expect out of your time at Texas when you get down there? Yeah, I talked to him about some ideas off his head. He said it's a good place to come in and hoop and just play great atmosphere and just be looking forward to getting down there on campus. Hell yeah. Well, we can't thank you enough for allowing us to be a part of this monumental day for you. Good luck the rest of the way at Link Academy. And when you get down to Austin, go ahead and dominate, Trey. Why not? Yes, sir. For sure. Got to. All right, ladies and gentlemen, Trey Johnson. Thank you. Hey Alright ladies and gentlemen Trey Johnson Thank you

Thank you for having me Hey thank you Trey Going to Texas That's a big deal Arch Manning Just running the show Down there for like three years Future very bright

Yeah Lead eight last year For Texas team That I thought I was Potentially going to have To pay every player In their $30,000 For the promise I made

Were you a part of The recruiting process Did you tell them You're a coach You know I don't know If I'm still a coach What I was I was a promise. Were you a part of the recruiting process? Did you tell him you're a coach? You know, I don't know if I'm still a coach down here. What? I was a coach down here.

What's that? You can still coach. New coaches. Same coaches, new staff, the whole. Yeah. See, I don't know. Wait, same coaches, new staff? What does that mean?

Well, there's a move. Trey's going, though. Trey's going. He's going to be great down here. Hook him, Trey. You're damn right. Have you committed yet, then, to your new team? Well, I mean, if that guy's going, be great down there. Hook him, Trey. You're damn right. Have you committed yet then to your new team? Well, I mean, if that guy's going to – sweet handshake.

This one here with the leg split. Yeah, that first one. Ah, that is filthy. I've heard nothing but great things about Trey Johnson. Yeah, how about him playing in Texas? Like, you know what? These kids all suck. I need to get out of here and go play someone that's kind of good at least.

That is what I was asking for. Because IMG,G right in Florida? Yeah, bingo. There's one in Maryland, right? And there's one in O'Kill. Do they all just kind of play against each other? I wonder how that works. Is that what they do?

The AAU scene in high school basketball is crazy. If you look at the NBA guys, they've been playing against each other since they were like 12, just traveling the country

playing in different teams. You mentioned a couple of them. I can't imagine what those competitions are like. Yeah, the amount of money, too, being thrown at, like, 13-year-olds because that's been happening a long time. That's been documented about the basketball because I guess they kind of know, hey, this guy's probably going to go. Hey, this guy's 6'4", he's a 14-year-old.

Let's assume that if he continues to work at it, we can maybe get in on a future business. I think there was some regulations that had to get put in place because of how bad it was getting in. Those leagues were run by Nike. It was like a Nike league or Adidas and it was a way for them to get in early and they were allowed to give them all kind of product and awesome stuff.

So then all of a sudden, oh hey, you're going to be the number one overall pick and you're already kind of a Nike guy. Yeah, and with the success that Jordan had, obviously, with the Nike deal, everybody kind of wanted Nike guy. Yeah, and with the success that Jordan had obviously with the Nike deal, everybody kind of wanted to follow suit. Let's get the next one. Let's get in earlier. And then one thing leads to another and everybody scumbags. That's right.

Well, that's what's interesting is like with Trey, I read like he won a state championship, the first his team had ever had. And he's playing 6A in Texas. So it's like it's not like he's playing against Scruff. But he's dominating there. So it's like, ah, fuck it, I'll go.

I like this. Some people might not agree with me. But when I was... The first time I kicked a football, I kicked a 60-yard field goal. Like, the first time I kicked it. You know, I was kicking 70-yard field goals coming out of high school.

Very strong leg. At some point, they should have said pat we don't need you to learn french yeah exactly hey we don't need you to you got basic math all right sweet can you speak can you read yeah can you do this thing awesome let's get you to become the greatest kicker that you could possibly become like that's what it feels like yeah transferred up here to play basketball play better competition he's still in high school you know i mean you go to europe with those soccer teams. Those kids are living at the academy.

They got soccer conditioning in the morning. They got like an hour and a half of class. And then we got lunch. And then we got ball from noon until six, pretty much. And then you got a study hall session. And then you got another conditioning thing. And you put that on repeat until you're a professional soccer player. And you kind of can change your entire

family's life. It's like, I appreciate pointing out talent and saying, this is going to be your profession. Let's specialize in this. Can't do it with a lot of people that aren't going to make it. Cause then you're ruining lives. Right.

Then like there's potential other things that happen, but whenever you identify a talent and say like, let's try to make this fucker's life, you know, convenient to becoming great, I don't mind that at all. I like that the Link Academy thing happened. Oh, yeah.

IMG is like for all sports. IMG is like, are you a good tennis player? Yeah, we fucking got it. If you want to be a pro, here you go. It's going to cost a lot of money, but we're going to focus on that as opposed to everything. You've got to be able to do it, obviously, but I don't mind that at all for people.

Yeah, it's kind of like what the United States has taken from overseas because Luka and Wemby, they've both been pros since they were 15, and now with the overtime league, two of the top five picks, the Thompson twins, they didn't do college or really high school basketball. The overtime league is its own thing. Excuse me, geez. Those academies, too.

Mont Verde, I think, has the number one player, Cooper Flagg. Those kids are going there just so they can play each other. That's it. And they travel like college teams do. That Link Academy, it's like you're going down to Florida for a game on Tuesday and then you might go up to Virginia for a game on – That's awesome. Yeah, they're traveling like college basketball teams. Like hockey indiana how the big the hockey schools are aren't they

junior b's gonna live with people shattuck yeah i mean spires in indiana that's where lamella ball came in point oh mckenzie my daughter she's either gonna have a absolute banger of a shot or that i she's a lefty. Her left foot is going to be phenomenal. I can't wait to see the decisions that I have to make and be like, are we just going to send you to soccer school? Is that what we're going to do right now? Because then you'd probably

end up hating it too. That's a whole other... Be a human. Todd Marinovich. Obviously all these guys love ball. This crew is much more mature than any of us, but congrats to Trey. Seems like that's the way to do it too.

He went to high school for three years and kind of had a normal high school experience and then before you go to college it's like alright, time to get serious. We're going to send you to this place. Here we go. Here comes your freshman year of college. It's still in high school. You're going to go do this. You're going to handle this. You're going to live alone. You're going to live in a dorm. You're probably going to have to manage your time whenever you're away from basketball.

So then whenever you get to Texas at the Moody, I believe it's called the Moody Center, that arena, you're already ready for life. You're already handled everything. He's going to be a great Donner. He's going to be a great Longhorn. Yeah, and like the one and done. That's why that senior year is kind of like a prep year almost. You're not just doing the one year of college and going. You get that experience by going somewhere else.

And big shout out to everybody that played a role in making that whole thing happen right there. That was sweet. There were some humans involved in getting that commitment done on this particular program. Hey, thank you. Shout out. Shout out.

Hey, do you want to be part of a commitment tomorrow? Sure. Football guy? College basketball guy. Yeah. I mean, absolutely. We're honored. We're honored to even be asked.

You know, that's a big day. I normally see that on ESPN and other things. Probably going. It's a big deal. It was straight business, too. No shenanigans. A lot of shenan deal. He was straight business, too. No shenanigans. A lot of shenanigans.

I was told he doesn't want to put a hat on. I like that. Good for him. That's what I said. I like this guy. They're like, he's really chill, really cool, doesn't want to do the hat thing, just wants to basically let the world know where he's going because there's people obviously asking. It's like, all right. Would love to be a part of it yeah absolutely it was fun learning

about him too was dad playing at baylor a couple years and he transferred out i believe dad obviously big baylor fan this kid loves kevin durant grew up in dallas obviously kevin durant is filthy at basketball he's donated a lot to the university of texas for the practice facility and everything he got to work out with KD this last offseason. I assume that was a big part of it. It's like, here we go. Hey, go get your money, Trey. Go get your money.

Speaking of money, it is time for us to get smarter so we can make more money on ESPN Bet. Did you guys download this? Oh, yeah. Okay, so I searched ESPN Bet in the App Store. I had to scroll like 15 times down. That's not good. That'll probably have to change at some point. Really great colors. Love it. I love

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yesterday. No. At all. And our big question was like how is it because if if the tech isn't good does not matter nope anything else and granted we're not going to be a part of the whole we're not gonna be making picks on there and everything like that but obviously they're going to be the ones for us and we have a little bit of a history whenever it comes to like you know sports books and like marketing of sports books and trading things and doing stuff. It's like the beginning of it. So we had a lot of questions whenever they were like, will you use the odds of ESPN Bet as your show odds? Like, absolutely.

We'd love to. All good. We appreciate it. Good luck. We're pulling for it. But our big question was like, how is the app? That's all. All we need to know is, is the app operable?

They say it's going to be a good app. It's going to be a good app. It's going to be a good app. From what I've seen, good app. Good start. I think they've got a good app. I'm happy for them. And their lines have been super favorable over the last couple weeks as we've been checking them out on the score.

So I think they did it. I think they're in a good spot. Darren Revell tweeted that 18 years ago, whenever he was at ESPN, they launched the ESPN phone. And everybody in ESPN knew within four months that that was going to be a disaster. Then he said, we'll know in about a year if ESPN bets are going to work or not. That's a fascinating projection because these other places have been going for like four or five years. They're in people's phones.

They're in people's days. They're already in there. People have already built up habits. So although sports gambling is still going to continue to be legalized in more states, it's already got a pretty good little run. People have already kind of got in there. So ESPN, I don't want to say is behind the April, but they are a couple years behind whenever it comes to letting people know they exist.

This is a long game. I would assume that this is we just got to prove that we have good product, we got to prove that we have a good line, and we got to prove that we can be a place that people want to make the transition to. And I think they're ready to do that. Yeah, I mean, you mentioned it. Like, if the tech's good, people will find it. Because eventually, you know, you're going to have issues with other stuff that you,

eventually, you're just going to be like, you know what? Fuck it. I don't care that I've been on this for this long. Like, if you can do something. And last night, on launch day, like, I was on there quite a bit. No issues. No hiccups. Like, I know a lot of people were saying, too, like, well, I was on there quite a bit. No issues. No hiccups. I know a lot of people were saying, too,

well, you get these first-time user bonuses and then that shit, whatever. There's issues with you found it right away. It's right in your account. Congrats to them. It's early, but yeah, I think they did a great job. Not easy. Now, move out to Monday. You've got Monday Night Football in Buffalo.

New York is a state in which it's legal. So, I mean, you just move it up one day, you potentially have Monday Night Football. Pretty massive. But nonetheless, they wanted to get it. They said they wanted to get it ready. Yeah. Ready for it. That was very, I had a lot of questions.

It was a mess. When I was told, hey, it's coming next Tuesday, I'm like. Only network. Tuesday, they're like, well, we got a bunch. And they wanted to get it right. So I respect that. And it's not about just like this week, this year. Tuesday, they're like, well, we got a bunch. And they wanted to get it right. So I respect that. And it's not about just like this week, this year. Right.

Long game. Congrats to the ESPN bet people. A lot of work behind the scenes on all that. A lot of work behind the scenes on all that. Can't wait to see how you guys do. You get favorable lines, though, and your tech is good. Okay. Now we're playing the game.

Now let's play the game a little bit better with a better brain, shall we? Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for In the Trenches with A.Q. Shipp. Here you go, A.Q. Shipp. Way to go, A.Q. Shipp. All right, here we go. We got some good ones. We got the Pittsburgh Steelers starting off. 200 yards.

Hey, listen, 200 yards rushing. Most runs of over 10 yards this weekend. Whoa, Mac, America. Would we have said that five weeks ago? Never. Four weeks ago? No. Three weeks ago? No. Two weeks ago? No. One week ago? Yes, because he moved the sideline. But, if I would have

said this weekend who had the most runs over 10 yards, nobody would have guessed Pittsburgh Steel. I would have. But they did. I absolutely would have. But they did. We watched the game. You watched it, exactly. Yeah, but before the game, you said. Correct. Before the game, exactly. I would have. For sure. You would have said they did we watched the game you watched it exactly yeah but before the game you said yeah correct before the game exactly i would have for sure you would have said it yeah let's say on friday aq goes oh because the green bay packer defense sucks bingo that's exactly a lot

of first rounders you don't have to be so mad about it though it sounds like you're a little bitter about i'm not i'm not i've come to accept it because this is the kind of shit that happens every single week so it's kind of just like hey if you need a get right game you know your run game is not really you know i mean packers made naji harris look like jim brown on sunday so you know that's that's got to be good for you know what the question the question though is he a defensive end or a backer because i mean apparently matt floor got pretty pissed off he did he did two defense alignment in the game, nickel defense. You're exposing yourself. You don't know ball. I mean their defensive end is when it goes to

nickel. I mean you got to know this. Oh, Matt LaFleur? Did you see this? No, I didn't. No, I missed this too. He got pissed because one of the reporters was like, hey, nickel defense, you only have two defensive linemen in the game. Oh no. Who asked? I don't know who it was. in the game. Oh, no. Oh, no. Who asked?

I don't know who it was. Jason Wilde. He's been there for a while. Jason Wilde. Oh, I watched Wilde with an E. Yeah, bingo. Okay, that's Wilde? Yeah.

He does a show with Tal Sherd. Oh, Tal Sherd Wilde. I'd like to tell him. He even said it. He's like, oh, Tal Sherd's going to kill me tomorrow for this. Well, I want to let Mr. Wilde know. I've been pronouncing that in my head. It's Wilde every single time I've seen him.

It's also cool. I appreciate him giving an opportunity to the floor to kind of flex his stuff a little bit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, pretty awesome. How are the eyebrows doing it? Oh, they're impeccable. Spot on. Per usual. Beard? You know, spends more time on that than anything else. Oh, come on. Don't be a mark.

What do you mean? Yeah, you're probably right. Spot on. Spot on. He had a cool vest on, too. Whoa. He's got good sideline. He does got good sideline His gear is unmatched Speaking of gear You think AQ's on any gear? Look how fit this guy looks AJ you see this guy?

He's GQ Mono I know our guy Hangman Had his cheeks out Are you next AQ? I think it's men's health That popped up on my algorithm Him in a towel Is that AQ? Are you next, AQ? Yeah, listen, I think it's men's health. I still got 20 pounds to go. That popped up on my algorithm. Him in a towel with the whole thing up there.

And I'm like, hey, let me know when nude you's coming around on my Instagram. I didn't expect just to see your cheeks everywhere. He looked good, though. He did. He did look good. Good for him. His bachelority was very good when we were standing next to him on the sideline. And he said, I'm just drinking and having fun.

No, you're not. He was getting ready for a men's health shootout. Absolutely. We know your tricks, Hangman. And Hangman did lie. He did. Hangman did lie. He did.

He said he was drinking every night. Son of a bitch. Hey, Q, why don't you start doing a little men's health? You know what I mean? Start giving out tips on how we look like this. Listen, I'm an offensive lineman at heart. Oh. All right.

You guys are doing a lot more immediate now. Yeah, you are. Good point. Crushing it. In the trenches. Saddam died. Pancakes. Pancakes.

Yep. Sexiest man on earth. Yeah. There you go. He is an actual offensive lineman. Yep. Look at the come up for the O-line. How about it?

Here we go. Smash Helmets. Joe Thomas. Smash Helmets. come up for the O-line. Here we go. Joe Thomas. D. Wood. I love D. Wood. Love D. Wood. All-time Patriot. He had the best COVID backdrop of all time. Looked like he was in actual Caesar's

castle behind him. Did he have the grand piano? Pillars. Red velvet carpet. Did he have the grand piano? Pillars. Red velvet carpet. And also on the wall. Jerseys. And he was just sitting in front of it.

It was like, damn, D. Wood did good. Hey, good for you, D. Wood. That's literally every time he was on, we thought that. And he has. But offensive linemen are crushing it, especially super thin and handsome ones with brand new mustaches and beards. Now we're talking. Now we're talking.

Speaking of offensive linemen, what do they do here? All right, we'll start here. We're going to start with the receiver here, Deontay Johnson. Let's watch him skinny through here. Allen Robinson. Is that Allen Robinson? Yep. Okay, perfect.

Even better. Allen Robinson. Can we restart this one? Yeah. Okay, let's start with Allen Robinson right here. He's going to skinny through right here. Up to his safety. Yeah, right here.

Watch this. Check this out. Watch him skinny through these two. Get up to him. We get great push right here. Right to the up to the safety. Yeah, right here. Watch this. Check this out. Watch him skinny through these two. Get up to him. We get great push right here. Right here is awesome.

Let's rewind that real quick. First of all, it is hard as hell to reach a nose guard in the league. Now we're going to turn this.

We get the right guard back underneath here. He's going to full reach here. Now check this out. We get a rookie doing a vet move

here. Watch this. Smackdown. How good is that? This guy. This guy right here. I know the rookie doing a vet move here. Watch this. Smackdown. How good is that? This guy. This guy right here. I know the Pittsburgh guys are talking about him. Everybody in the back.

Everybody here. Everybody's talking about him. This guy needs to be talked about a lot more because he has made a huge difference since he's come in the starting lineup for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Broderick Jones, we talked about him. First-round pick. Wasn't playing early. But this is impressive shit.

Wow. Najee Harris hits it and gets it. What a big gaping hole. Matthew America scripting this one up right. He's doing a great job. He's doing an absolutely great job since the bye week. The bye week was the key. They need a bye week.

They need a restart. And now they are getting big holes. We got my man running through here. Jalen Warren is doing some really good stuff, too. But, hey, this is a great job by Naj. What does that mean? That was Jalen Warren right there. He might be gone. He might be gone. Different runner.

I don't think they were expecting that massive hole like that. Thunder and lightning, right? I don't know. The Packers just seem to give it up all the time. Also, quick follow-up. We've heard this guy's okay. He got a... Yep, yeah. That's Danny Smith.

He took a car crash on the sideline. Oh, yeah. He started a fight. He was at the bottom of the bottle. People were stepping on him with their cleats. Yep. He got up, chewing his gum, showed up earlier the next day. Beast.

Fryer-Muth has got his quads out on the sideline. Hopefully, he comes back soon. Yeah, I love that. Love that Fryer-Muth's got a good clap, too. I mean, that's an incredible clap. When is he back? He claps left-handed. That's what I just learned.

He went on the IRS, and I can't remember how long ago. I believe they opened his window today. He's practicing today. Do you clap lefty or righty? Righty. Okay, you're a right-hander. I clap lefty. I clap lefty as well.

Yeah, lefty. So it's Friar Muth. Friar Muth claps lefty as well. Yeah. That's what I learned. Nice. Welcome to the club. Yeah, hell yeah.

You don't like them? Are you a quiet clapper? I do this a lot. I do a shit piece. I try to get very loud with my claps. Yeah, me too. You got to clap the shit out of them. And you got to be the last one clapping too.

You always got to get three or four at the end. Yeah, don't have to do that at all actually. I don't have to. It's just personal choice. Yeah, big clap guy. I appreciate that that's your move, though. Let's go. Oh, the Nires are back.

Of course. They had to get one guy back, and all of a sudden they're back in the Super Bowl talk. Like, listen, this guy, let's just watch this little skip and then run. When you run zone plays, you have to run off the ball. It starts with him. Then it goes there. Then it goes there. Then it goes there. Then it goes there. Then it goes there.

This is why they are so good at running the football because he just five steps, makes a break up the field, but it starts there. Widen, get him out. Great single between Feliciano in the center here. Backside gets a great cutoff. Let's go back again. Backside, Kittle, and Juszczyk. Look at Juszczyk. He's basically a right tackle here, fighting with the 300-pound defensive end. Gets a great cutoff on the backside. That guy can make that play in the NFL.

He's a backside, inside shade on the backside. Can very easily get to there. Juszczyk cuts him off. Kittle does his job. This is why they run the shit out of the ball. Because they all do what they're supposed to do they hammer it and hammer it and hammer it and they are so good at running the football especially when he's back is that supposed to go there or just anywhere that opens so that's

the beauty about a zone it can hit anywhere sometimes you see all these guys push everybody there and then cmc hits it right there because he over pursues on the backside he can hit it anywhere in his own scheme that is why when you watch them they just run they never ever try and really turn on guys because they are trying to just run guys past the point of attack just run run run let the defenders take themselves out of the play that's all you got to do it's a similar scheme as pops mike, Mike Shanahan, and everybody. Every running back team had a bunch of success. Yeah, running back's got to have what? Good vision.

That's it. And the key to it is practice. That is the key. A lot of teams don't practice. They don't practice the run game, and then they get in the game. Look at their feet. Look at their feet. Look at their feet.

They're all on the same angle. They all go on the same angle, and then they get in the game. Look at their feet. Look at their feet. Look at their feet. They're all on the same angle. They all go on the same angle, every single one of them, even the tight ends, even the backside. It matches the running back. They're like the Rockettes. Yeah. Yeah. It's really good stuff.

Also, it's on defense, but it looked like a Luokan might have known exactly what they were doing and almost made the play, too. Almost. They're all on the same exact page. You can know. Yeah, exactly. But that's how good they are.

That's that's what, yeah, exactly. And that's the whole key. Whoa. Detroit line. Oh yeah. Rockets.

Your timeline a lot too. I think either it's my four years, something like that. The Rockets are doing a bunch of trust falls. Just me. I've not seen the Rockets. It is holiday season. Isn't this their thing? Them and Mariah Carey are about a bunch of trust falls. Just me. I have not seen the Rockettes. It is holiday season. Isn't this their thing?

Them and Mariah Carey are about to pop up out of nowhere. Yep. Mariah had a sweet post, too, about that. Who did? Mariah. Them getting her out of the cryo chamber. She starts singing. It's cool. She's doing concerts now, isn't she? Oh, really? I think she's doing concerts

right now. Beast. I don't know. Stephen A went to a concert or something. Oh, yeah? Wow. I thought that was Mariah Mills. I don't know if she's doing concerts. She has shows. Oh.

Yeah. Still a performer. Where did Stephen A go? I think he went to a Mariah Carey concert. I'm not... Or he heard about... I don't know. I haven't heard her doing many concerts.

Did Stephen A eat salad before and went to this concert? What's that all about? Man, I need to know what's happening. I need to know what this inside joke is. For Tony. Yeah, I don't know what Tony's talking about. Who's salad tossing? That's Stephen A's sex meal before he has sex.

We're learning a lot about Stephen A from the Stephen A. Smith Show. Yeah, worst day to be horny. Talked about that on Sunday. I like getting to know the real Stephen A. Me too. Did you see his new set? I did too. Awesome.

He debuted a brand new set yesterday in his baby blue suit that he had. Stephen A is fucking batting 1,000. Sunday also not the worst day. Being rocked up watching football. Are you kidding me? It's awesome. You can debate him on that. I will.

Go on there, Con. I don't even know. Could you imagine we call him? Let's see. Oh, shit. i don't even know did you imagine we call him let's see oh shit i don't know if he's gonna answer i don't know if we're like that i've never done this before in my life tell him you can hang seven donuts off of it feed yourself the whole day yahtzee yep don't have to get up go to the fridge nothing wrong with a dong donut don't get a boston. It's a true dog.

Don't get a Boston cream. There's no way he answers this. It gets messy. Is this going to be the quickest we're live of all time? Yeah, it's going to have to be. He's like, good day to be horny, man. Wednesday, hump day. Wednesday. He's probably in the middle of cutting something right now

probably in the middle from that brand new studio cutting something anyways alright AJ let's get the hell out of here let's get back tomorrow you know we got week 11 I got hockey is awesome segment tomorrow we've been accruing there's some great clips I'm about to go bananas tomorrow

hell yeah Sidney Crosby fresh off a hat trick might have to show one of his goals There's some great clips. There's some great clips around. I'm about to go bananas tomorrow. Hell yeah. Bonkers. Sidney Crosby fresh off a hat trick. Might have to show one of his goals. I'm a Connor Vedard. Has he lived up to the hype? Uh, yeah. Fights.

Goalie fights. We got a great hockey. He's awesome tomorrow. Also, we have a game in Chichette. A good one. In the AFC North. And then will John Harbaugh go from coaching the Ravens on Thursday at home against the Bengals to coaching the Michigan Wolverines on Saturday?

Nobody has alluded to that at all except for us. It would be fucking sweet if that took place. Both these teams need one tomorrow night. Both these teams trying to bounce back and build upon what they were starting to do until they had this loss this past week. It should be a good one on Thursday night. I'm excited about it. AJ, your cornea is going to be back closer and better than ever.

Oh, yeah. We're getting a little bit better every single day. Can't wait. AQ, thank you, buddy. Hey, baby. AQ. Let's go. That was awesome. Great work this week, pal. Good work, D-Bot. Boys in the back, really good day today on this Wednesday. You got it, boys. You guys, an incredible job here, boys. Thank you, Pat. Pat on the back.

Pat on the back. Ty, return the favor. AQ's patting people on the back. Tell him to take his back mic crack, by the way. You see how small this guy's getting? Oh, Pat. Pat on the back, Tony. Just gave you Pat on the back. Ty, return the favor. Hey, Q's patting people on the back. Tony Diggs back Mike Crack, by the way. You see how small this guy's getting? Oh, yeah. He looks great. Hey, Tony's getting into high school shape right now. He's looking good, don't you think?

Look at that jawline. Look good. He's got a glow in his eye. Uh-huh. Give a smile for everybody. Hey, come on, Tony. Good smile. Tony, you've been starting wars with people, too.

I do appreciate that. I was very nice to the Browns. Not really. You kind of talk shit on the Lions, too. Yeah. What the hell is that about? I only like to fight one front at a time. No, today you literally—

I'm not built for three or four. You're like, let me get the full armada here. Let me go ahead and light these people up a little bit from the past. They're not going to cut. They know. Who, the brand-new Lions? The Browns fans, the Jets fans. They know.

Yeah, but one of those teams is not like the other right now. True. Just give it time. And we're not annoyed yet, Tony. Come on. Well, I don't know. You pipe up every time there's a Lions highlight. What do you expect?

That's my team. And a reverse there occurs, too, right? Yeah, because Nate Manning and Jeff Daniels went in there and smoked weed and drank moonshot. It's the same because, you know, word in the street is MCDC is going to Texas A&M. Wow. A lot of people pushing that little narrative.

You guys better win it this year because he might just take $150 million guaranteed to go coach at Texas A&M and place you in school. MCTC ain't going anywhere. We all know that. Ben Johnson, on the other hand. Ben Johnson's gone. I don't know if he's going to Texas A&M.

Could you imagine Ben Johnson goes to Texas A&M? That'd be sweet. Dan Campbell's great down there, man. You should take it. How about J.J. Watson? How about them showing the check that is going to fire Jimbo Fisher at halftime of the game? I did not know that was the case. That is fantastic. That's awesome. Big check, too.

$76.8 million. He's getting paid until what? 2027 or 2028 or something like that. He could double dip. He could take another gig, too, and get paid from both. No offsets. No offsets. Jimmy Sexton is a fucking dog, dude. He's a dog affect Jimmy Sexton. Jimmy Sexton is a fucking dog, dude.

He's a dog. Jimmy Sexton is a beast. That's what you need. If we ever get into college football coaching, you're going to figure out how to get into Jimmy Sexton's roster. That is what we're going to do. The guy's got it on lock. It's not even a...

That's insane. No questions asked. And if we're getting back in the NFL like JJ, Mola Geta. Yep. I need $230 million guaranteed. I'm not going to play any games. Sweet.

Give me $230 million. Now. Mola Geta can make that happen. That's what can happen. Perfect. So we appreciate that. And then for TV, you're calling David Coonan. Yep.

That's who you're calling. 40 under 40. And ends with David Coonan. 40 under 40. Two years in a row. Big deal. Hell yeah. All right. Let's get the fuck out of here.

We'll see you all tomorrow. You're the greatest people on Earth for allowing us to do this for a living. We understand how absurd it is. We got Cody Schrader tomorrow. The Missouri Tigers running back. Great story. He's going off. We also have Nick Saban tomorrow. I think we have a couple others as well. This should be an entire show of

laughs tomorrow. Hell yeah. Good times. Tristan Wirth's on the show tomorrow. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah, that's a big deal. Let's go. He got the ball this past weekend. Yes, he did. He gave this one afterwards.

Why don't we feed the big dog out of Iowa, down there in Tampa, a little bit more. Tomorrow should be a huge show. He'll be out of sunglasses, we assume, and we can't thank you enough. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Goodbye.