The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1025 - Trenches Wednesday With JJ Watt, The General Bob Carpenter's Top 10, Texas A&M Head Football Coach Mike Elko, Darius Butler and AQ Shipley LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: November 29, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AQ Shipley, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the college football rankings and what it all means ahead of this weekend’s Conference Championship games, David Tepper’s news conference from yesterday and how we need to hear more from him, Bobby Petrino returning to Arkansas as Offensive Coordinator, the Jets officially opening Aaron Rodgers’ 21 day practice window, and everything else happening around the sports world. Joining the show is future Hall of Famer, 3x DPOY, one fo the greatest defensive players of all-time, JJ Watt, to chat about his biggest takeaways from this week in the NFL, Burnley suffering a heart breaking defeat, the Houston Texans attendance problem, how TJ Watt is so dominant, and much more (1:06:52-2:05:10). Next, the General, Bob Carpenter joins the show to give his top 10 in college football and who still has a path to the College Football Playoff (2:05:16-2:19:03). Later, new Texas A&M Head Football Coach, Mike Elko joins the show to chat about why he accepted the Texas A&M job, how difficult it was to leave Duke, his recruiting plan versus using of the transfer portal, how he’s going to assemble his coaching staff, expectations at Texas A&M, and more (2:19:03-2:32:32). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this glorious Trenches Wednesday, November 29th, 2023. This program starts now! Football! It's what we're talking about all day. And it is going to be a glorious thing, but it's not just football today. There's stories coming out of all the sports worlds that we're going to have to dive in as we look ahead to week 13 of the NFL season. As we look ahead to the championship weekend for college football. There's great things on the horizon, and today is going to be an absolute blast.

College football playoff rankings, the new ones, came out last night, 7 p.m. Eastern on ESPN, with Reese and every human that covers college football except for me and Desmond Howard, pretty much seemingly, at ESPN. It's a great show. I love watching it. Georgia, Michigan, Washington, Florida State are the first four in right now as we head into championship weekend. And then the one-loss teams battle it out from there all the way down to Kansas State cracking in to the top 25 and Liberty at 24.

Congrats to them. We'll talk to the general, Bob Carpenter, at about 205 to see where his ranking looks versus the CFP's ranking. He had Ohio State at number one since week zero of this particular college football season. They lose to Michigan in the way that they do. How will that look? For the general's rankings, we shall see.

We have Mike Elko joining us today. Let's go. Okay. Yeah, new head coach at Texas A&M. Saw him, arms like this, they're pressed. Hey, you're all. Like, we're like this at a press conference. You're all like, we're all with it. It looked like they were all the way in down there. He's formerly a defensive

coordinator at Texas A&M, so he knows the lay of the land. Big brain guy. Went to an Ivy League school, I believe Penn played safety there. Has been incredibly successful everywhere he goes. His latest stint at Duke brought them some national prominence for a football standpoint.

I think if he has the backing of a school that will pay $77 million for a coach to leave to potentially pay some NIL guys, I'll be excited to see what Elko does down there. And J.J. What? Will join us in about an hour and nine minutes. Not just them, though. It's obviously the toxic table. That boss of Connor and that Ty Schmidt. You were wearing a sloth on your shirt yesterday.

You said it was a meerkat. Yeah, I realized that about half obviously the toxic table. At Boss of Connor and at Ty Schmidt. You were wearing a sloth on your shirt yesterday. You said it was a meerkat. Yeah, I realized that about half of the show yesterday because I don't remember ordering a meerkat. I actually don't really know what a meerkat is, but yeah, that's just classic sloth. I should have known that the sloth had such an interesting face, you could say. I

appreciate and love every elephant shirt that you wear in here because the elephant is my favorite animal at this standpoint. Yeah, this is a good one. This is a good one. This is the first time I've worn this one. I only have two elephant shirts. Try and save them. You have what I was told via text message

that there's 15 new shirts coming right down the pipe. Look, I got a couple that I don't even know when I want to wear them because they're so nice. Oh, they're big days. Yeah, they are so nice. There are a couple in there that have definitely rose to the top three power rankings. If college football playoff released their rankings, there'd be four new teams up there because of the shirts that just came through the wire.

Some light blues, a lot of colors, some dark blues. Zito actually found a shirt for me as well. Perfect Eagle shirt. Probably would have been nice to have on Sunday, but I also had a Sunday Eagle shirt on and completely forgot about it. Well, the elephant's going to be good anytime. I can't wait for Super Bowl Radio Row whenever we're out there. What you're going to be wearing on those days,

make sure you bring it. And your toxic table compadre here has a big one this Saturday. As the number 16th ranked Iowa Hawkeyes take on the Michigan Wolverines in the Big Ten Championship. Yesterday, you gave a final score prediction of 14-10.

The Iowa Hawkeyes beat the Michigan Wolverines. We will do that every single day, not at this exact point. Just get a little temperature check on how you're feeling about the game and any news or insight that you're learning about. How did you wake up this morning knowing that the Iowa Hawkeyes are playing in the Big Ten Championship this weekend? Unbelievable, per usual. You know, I mean, once again, we kind of talked about this yesterday.

You wake up at this time of the year, and it's really dark out, and it's very easy to be like, you know what? Today sucks. Today sucks. I want to get back in bed. It's cold as shit. Nothing's going my way. But I said, what's that I hear outside?

I heard a hawk squawking. No way. Boom. Not even kidding. Heard a hawk squawking outside my window. I said, wow, that's a good sign. That's a good omen for this. I didn't hear any wolverines.

Did you hear a wolverine do it? Funny enough, I did. I haven't heard a single wolverine one time outside my house. I've never even seen a wolverine. So, you know, I mean, you take that whichever way you want. But, yeah, I'd say the omen, the temperature check, very high. It may have said, you know, 22 degrees outside. I woke up feeling like it was 95 and sunny.

I mean, it just, and then you look, you look at, I mean, that thing doesn't exist. That's not a real animal. That's a wolverine. That's not real. That's a wolverine. I do believe a hawk, the hawks that I've seen, and I think maybe a hawk that you heard squawk this morning, would come down, pick that son of a bitch up up and fly off with it. Yeah, or rip it

in two. Rip it in two. I'm telling you, these hawks and these eagles flying around, they're humans in the sky. They are. And they're menaces. They will grab something, and they'll just throw it off a wall. Oh, yeah. Dogs. Like, they will throw...

They'll do it to dogs. They will take people's pets, keep them out of the that? Because it happens The side of my house happens to be Near a lake I do well, thank you These hawks though They'll grab these fish Big, nice

Big fish Big ones And they'll just throw it off the side of my house, and then they'll watch it fall, and then they'll go pick it up, and they'll throw it off. They're smart. They're sophisticated. It's like, all right, well, how do we kill this fish? Well, just take it out of the water. Yeah, but we need to do this quicker.

Throw it off a damn wall. They just start chucking it off the side of my house. Have to get the side of the house cleaned three times a week during the summer because of what these birds are doing to these fish. I'm telling you, these hawks, I don't know about the dumb one he heard this morning squawking, maybe keep it down, Tash trying to sleep, but the hawks are the real deal. I don't know what that

wolverine could do right there. Did you see what that wolverine did to Eddie George? You haven't seen the commercial? In the Heisman commercial, I have. It is pretty violent. Eddie's 265 to 27. I think Eddie might be putting on for the camera. I think if he wanted to, Eddie could rip that Wolverine's head off.

You know, throw it on the grill. You're saying Eddie's fugaz in that commercial? No, I'm just saying Eddie gets it. You know, Heisman House commercial. He's got to play the part. He's got to act. How do we feel about those Heisman House commercials? I think more Tim Tebow.

Yeah. More RG3 working out in front and talking to himself. Also, more Kyler. I like that one. Yep. A little more Kyler. Maybe a little. Yep. A little bit more Kyler. Maybe a little more Bake. Huh?

Where's Cam? Yeah, was Cam turning us down? It's got to be. Big personality. Manziel, did he get a big thing? Holy hell, Eddie George got his ass beat by a Wolverine. I take back everything I said about those little baby-ass hawks beating up birds. No, no, no, no.

We both know. I mean, a lot of people hunt for fun. You know, hey, it's fun. Let's go out and sit out in a field all day for 18 hours and drink a bunch of bush lights and sit in a tree stand and maybe come back and not even see anything. Hawks hunt to kill. They're not out there trying

to have fun. Hey, me and my buddies are going to go fly around and throw some fish off. We're hunting to kill. We're hunting to stay alive. Yeah, it's not a good time when they're throwing that fish off the side of my house. Exactly. They're not laughing and squawking. No, no. That's a necessity.

Survival. Big-time championship weekend this weekend. Huge. You guys are ranked 16th. What if you get a big-time win over Michigan? Nobody thinks it's going to happen. Nobody thinks it can happen. And I'm trying not to go to this place, but part of me is thinking, hey, this team beat Minnesota.

They did. I mean, that was horse shit. They got screwed over. But what if the Hawks are 11-1? Whole different conversation. Are they top 10? And then if they somehow do the unthinkable and beat Michigan.

They can't do that, right? Everyone's saying it. I don't know. Can they? We'll see. But if that were to happen, are they in a Florida State situation where nobody wants to let those pesky Hawks in? But you might just have to. Nine-year NFL vet sitting in once again for one half of the hammer. Die!

Cowboys, Tone Diggs. Tone! Miss you, Tone! Tone is alive. Yep. Tone is weller than he was earlier in the week. That's right. So that's good.

Trending in the right direction. Tees and peas to our guy, Tone, obviously. Yes. I don't know if he's back ranching or not. The cowboy went back to the ranch with what he's up to. But we certainly miss you, Tone, obviously. I don't know if he's back ranching or not. The cowboy went back to the ranch with what he's up to. But we certainly miss you, Tone. I wonder what weight Tone's going to be when he comes back. Remember, like, half of them disappeared.

165, maybe? He might be. Might be shorter. This guy might be a GQ model on the way back. We don't know. Last time we saw him miss extended days for sickness, he came back with a cowboy hat on. Because he watched Yellowstone. Correct. And he became Kevin Costner. Yes. His gambling record went through the roof.

That's whenever Hammer actually started because he was sent to a COVID cave. You remember whenever we were all doing that? When you get COVID and you're isolated from your own family. He was isolated from his own family. That's whenever he really hit his zenith, sports gambling.

He was just reading through the books, doing that whole thing, watching Yellowstone, gambling, watching Yellowstone. He came back as a cowboy, and we started a sports gambling show daily off of that. What will come from this one? Maybe a modeling career. Have you seen him as of late? Oh, the jawline's

coming in. Very expelled. Under that hat, nobody can see it. The hair is blooming. Yeah. It is really coming into its own out there. I'm excited to see this next tone that comes up. We miss you, Tony. Miss you, Tony.

It's been awesome to have you sitting over there, D-Bud, to be honest with you. I've enjoyed it a lot. It's been good. It's been fun. High chair over there. You look down on some people? It's good. The best part about here is I don't have to worry about my penis being exposed

when I sit there and shop. Good Lord, Darius. It is Wednesday. Joining us now is Andy sitting in the seat. In an exposed area, I guess. I did not know that was worth on that, I guess. Jesus, Elyse. That's all I'm going to mention.

Why are you sitting like that? You haven't sat like that ever. What is your problem? Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Dana Dredge is 12-year NFL lineman, coach, Super Bowl champion, sitting in an incredible unprofessional position. He showed off his trenches. Thank you, Shipley. Thank you.

I don't see it. I mean, you know. It's a little different with Darius. Why is that? You know why. I do. We all know why. Let's move along.

The college football playoff conversation, though, is a real one. If Iowa was to pull that off, 23.5 point dogs in Indianapolis, boy, that would throw the selection Sunday into quite a tizzy. What does that mean for everything else? Who knows? Louisville, FSU down there, lower right corner of the ACC championship, all eyes are on that one. There's a lot of people around the country pulling for Braum.

Oh, yeah. A lot of people around the country. And you know what? I've actually come the complete opposite way. Yeah. Put Florida State in there. Get them in. Wow. Get them in there country. And you know what? I've actually come the complete opposite way. Yeah. Put Florida State in there. Get them in. Wow.

Get them in there. Okay. You know what? Why not? Because this is how it's been through the entire college football playoff. So it's the last year having to pick four teams, which is dumb to begin with. And we got power five conferences, only four spots. So not even every champion can make it in.

So that was just stupid from the beginning. We were not a part of college football whenever that decision was made. So we would like to point out how dumb that was people say putting me on game day was dumb i agree they made a 14 playoff with power five that was dumb as well dumb decisions have been made for a long time here in college football and i think if you hear herbie talk kirk herbster who has to call these games oh yeah doesn't have to gets to well he knows that he gets to call it. We saw his ass in a booth this past weekend. He loves it.

Oh, yes. That dude is a little kid whenever it comes to football, but he's at all these games, experiencing all these games. His happiness in life is affected by these decisions that are being made by college football committee. Once again, he's lucky to do that. But you hear him go, are we talking deserving or best? Because I'm sick of being told that it's the best teams

when it's clearly just the most deserving teams. And if it's going to be just the most deserving teams, just tell us that instead of saying we're looking for the four best teams because that's not how it goes. And any time you go against deserving versus best, deserving. ACC champion who goes undefeated, that's a Power 5 conference. National champion just a couple years ago came out of that conference. You don't think they deserve to be in a college football playoff?

You're crazy, which makes sense. And anybody can kind of grandstand on that and sit on that. But I think what the conversation was when they moved away from the BCS was we want the best teams in there. Yes. Not just necessarily teams. We want the best teams. We want to be able to find out who the best teams are.

You have to play yourself into a group or a pool. And once we get into the pool, who are the best teams that are in there? And Herbstreit said, just tell the truth then. Just tell the truth then. If it's the most deserving, say it. If it's supposed to be the best though, we need to have a little bit more conversation. I think that's kind of where Herbie has lived

in the Florida State team. People do not think they're the best. No, not at all. They do not think they're the best. And if you go through their schedule, it's not their fault that the teams that they beat weren't good at football. They scheduled LSU as their first game.

They were not scared in the beginning of their season when most people are playing nobodies to take on an SEC powerhouse in LSU, especially with Brian Kelly with a couple years with his family down there. They're all the way bought in and built in. So it's not their fault. But you go through their resume, not a lot of good wins in there. Not a lot of good wins in there. But then you start looking at the other teams that are maybe getting promoted to be ahead of them. Like if Oregon beats

Washington on Friday, Oregon doesn't have a lot of good wins either. You go through Oregon's schedule, and I did that this morning for the first time in two, three weeks. Here's the teams that they beat. Here are the teams that Oregon has beat.

Portland State. This is a big one. 81-7. They started really hot. You know what I mean? They started really hot. Once again, I like the Oregon football team. I am a big fan of the Oregon football team. I like Dan Lanning. I love that Bo Nix

came back to do exactly what he's doing right now. I appreciate everything they got. But whenever you start talking about resumes, it's like, which one do we... Then it's got to go to eye testing, I guess. Portland State. Texas Tech, 38-30. That was a dogfight. Hawaii, they beat 55-10. Colorado,

42-6. We all remember when Dan Lanning said, this game ain't playing Hollywood. It's playing on turf. And then they released that, and then all of a sudden, public ass-beating. So it was almost like a call-your-shot type game, Babe Ruth type situation for Dan Lanning. And I appreciate that he did it. I don't think at the time a lot of people were necessarily as receptive to the move,

but they beat Colorado. Then they beat Stanford 42-6. Then they lose to Washington in Washington, an incredible game, and obviously everybody remembers the fourth down in which they go for it, and then Pennix and Adunze do what they've done to everybody pretty much, and they come back and win that thing. And then Washington State is winning, okay? Beginning of the year, Washington State had a great story,

had good stuff going. Then they rattle off five straight losses. I'm just telling you the facts. That's all I'm saying right now. How many straight? Five straight. Oh. Gump. I'm just telling you the facts. That's all I'm saying. How many straight? Five straight. Dump. They were hot start to the season. I wonder what changed after they won those games

at the start. Well, it did seem like there's a lot of negativity from both sides. We're happy. Let's go Wazoo! QB is transferring probably. Cam Ward, they're going to get a couple of million bucks, I guess, to go somewhere else. Why don't you come to West Virginia, pal? Utah, that's a big-time win.

In Utah. At the time. That's a big-time win at the time. Now Utah is no longer ranked. So it is, at the time, going to be judging Cal, K, USC, K, Arizona State, K. Then they beat the hell out of Oregon State. That's a massive win. So whenever you start comparing who has the most amount of wins,

and good wins, it's tough to kind of dive into it all. So then it all goes to eye test. So then you're expecting a group of people to agree on four teams to look the best. I have no idea how this has been, where we are, but I cannot wait to give my takes on Saturday. Because I guess, you know, selection committee meets on Sunday. There's a chance they're going to be watching game day. I'm going to have some thoughts on who passes this eye test, these eye tests.

And I don't think a lot of people are going to be happy about it. But the Florida State people, they're going to be the loudest if this entire thing happens. You know who has no chance of making it? Who's that? Penn State. No chance. Yeah, you're right.

You know what the good news is, though? What's that, pal? Top ten. Penn State. No chance. Yeah, you're right. You know what the good news is, though? What's that, pal? Top 10.

Top 10 and, I mean, a dominant win over Michigan State, Foxy. Dominant win. That means nothing to you. This is the worst Michigan State team I've ever seen in my entire lifetime. But it is very fascinating how the last year of this college football playoff is going to be the loudest. Yeah. And then next year's 12 teams,

and they put out what the 12 team would look like. It's awesome. So like. It's awesome. So good. It is awesome. But remember, next year when it's 12 teams, we're going to be pumped for like one year, and then like two, three years from now, we're going to be like,

they can't even get 12 teams right. Yeah. It's just like a never-ending chase in pursuit of perfection. But if this was next year, shout out to Ross Dellinger for doing this. If this was, I think he's Sports Illust Dellinger for doing this. I think he's sports illustrated? He might be.

He might be. Is he in Rapaport's run? Yeah, they're boys. How do they know each other? When Rap Sheet was at Mississippi State reporting on that team early in his career, that's where they met, hung out and in Rap Sheet's phone, Dellinger's wife is under the contact sex. That's where they met, hung out and in Rap Sheet's phone, Dellinger's wife is under the contact

sex. That's what he told us. What? All true. That's accurate. All true. No hyperbole. That is exactly what was told. I did not expect that. I apologize. No, actually, I think it was all talked about on the show. So congrats to all parties here. And Ross does not work for Sports Illustrated.

He's a real human. He works for Yacht Sports. That's a real place. They're actually having a resurgence. I think they're hiring people, which is real people. Let's go. Chuck Robinson's still there? Yes.

He's one of the pillars of that place. Yahoo tatted on his chest, go. I think Yahoo got one of the former ESPN guys that was either in digital or social is now running Yahoo Sports. I think they're trying to make a little bit of a run, I think. Fitz works over there. Really? Yeah. Oh.

Who's that? Van Perry. Yeah, violinist. Jason. Jason. Fiddler, right? Yes. Jason Fitz?

Fiddler on the roof. Oh, yeah. You know who I'm talking about? Yeah. This guy. Jason Fitz, formerly of ESPN? Yeah. There it is.

Yes. He is at Yahoo as well with Ross. Anyways, big thanks to Ross Dellinger of Yahoo Sports for putting this thing out there. It would be sick if this was next year. In Penn State, Texas, what a game that would be. Oh, yeah. That would be a fantastic one just to kind of get this entire thing off. Also, home games for all these people. So cool. So, the first round would be a fantastic one, just kind of get this entire thing off. Also, home games for all these people.

So cool. So that first round would be home games. So we get another chance to experience college football's atmospheres. And then whenever you go into the bigger bowls now, it's kind of building up these bowl games as well back in there. And they're kind of rotating them, I think, through. And then we have semis and national championship. It's like we're one year away from that.

And I know that means nothing to all the teams that are going to seemingly get screwed this year. But just know that the future of college football is very bright, very awesome, and I think very electrifying. Do you think that we are also looking at more possible problems? Because just looking at this right here, right?

Let's say Bama loses to Georgia. Is that going to be a conversation now? They move an eight-seat or a nine-seat out of the top 12 because they lose their conference championship. And Tulane is still in because they're the Power 6, Group of 6 champion or whatever, highest ranked Group of 6 champion. It's going to be a real thing.

It's going to be muddy at points. Especially because there's no longer a Power 5. They wouldn't get in but Ole Miss would and they beat Ole Miss. But because they lose to Georgia, they don't get in the top 12. I hope they actually are getting into that right now because we're about a year away from it but all I know is selection Sunday I think there's a four-hour show on ESPN hell yeah yeah I've heard about this show from every person that's part of it pretty much being like you

joining us you joining us huh got a good four hours so like so we're talking about it all all the bowl games. I'm like, I haven't been asked. I haven't been asked, well, consider this an invitation. I'm like, oh. Thank you, Kirk. Oh, Reese. Thank you. I don't think that's what anybody

wants. We want it. No, thank you. Four hours they're talking on Sunday. It's a long time. That's a lot of talking. That makes sense. Hour for each team that gets in. Break down everything about them and what to expect moving forward. I think they're breaking down every bowl. Oh, poinsettia bowl?

I think every single one. Duke Mayo? I don't know. It's on an NFL Sunday as well, which is wild to think about. I told them, boys, I'll be keeping up. I'll be watching the clips. I'll be doing the whole thing. But yeah, I think they break down every bowl that happens. It's awesome. Gotta have a take. A lot of bowls. Alright, let's move to some NFL conversation here in this

glorious trenches Wednesday. Houston Texans, obviously playing much better football than any of us could have imagined with a rookie quarterback, number two overall pick, who David Tepper, owner of the number one overall pick, said, we're supposed to get. Yeah. We're supposed to have number two overall pick, we're supposed to have cj stroud love bryce young okay we all thought but we weren't supposed to go to one ever we were supposed to be at number

two this whole time we're supposed to get cj stroud we need more david tepper by the way i want to let everybody know that we feel the owner of the carolina panthers speaking is good for sports media this is what he had to say about the whole situation on draft night and where the Panthers were. Now, it's been reported and we talked about it. Originally, we were going to go with the number two pick and we thought we'd get CJ because we thought the Texans were going to pick Bryce. And listen, we preferred Bryce.

He was our number one pick. We got a lot of conviction. All right. But, you know, in answer to your questions, it's just not the way the process was done. The process was done the way the process was done. Of course. And, again, even though if there was a process with five people in a room and the way the votes came in, it was Frank was the first choice, I always could veto that choice. And even if it was Bryce and the votes came in unanimously in this particular case,

I could have vetoed that choice. In both cases, I supported both choices. I'm just going to say that I supported both choices. I supported the coaches. I supported the scouts, their unanimous opinion. And I supported Frank Reich. So whatever is good, bad, or indifferent is ultimately because the buck stops here, and I take full responsibility for everything.

But that's the way the process runs. And just one last thing, and then we're going to go here. As far as Bryce Young is concerned, I cannot say this for myself, and I think everybody in this building would share this sentiment. We are totally confident in that pick. Okay, I think the people that made that pick first, you know, would be totally confident in that. You know, some of them you could ask. Okay.

And I think the, and for me, I'm totally confident in agreeing with that pick. Okay. All right, thank you. Thank you, David Tepper. Thank you, Dave. He just wanted to let his people know there was a time we were supposed to have CJ. You were watching what's going on, so am I. I'm seeing what's happening. I thought that's where we were going to be. Instead, it's on how the deal goes.

And we end up giving away seven picks and our number one wide receiver in this entire thing to go up to number one to get Bryce Young. And let me reiterate, fully confident in Bryce Young. But we didn't think we had a chance to go get him until we had to go get him. But C.J. Stroud, rookie quarterback down in Houston. Rookie head coach, D'Amico Ryans. What's he

going to do? Well, they've been dominant. They've been awesome. They lose the Jacksonville Jaguars this past weekend, but I think they've outplayed any projections or predictions that anybody could have had for the dumpster fire that was the Texans organization about 12 to 15 months ago if you recall everything that was cooking there now big time blow here and AQ it's great to cheer

Titus Howard Texan stud right tackle out for the year what does this mean AQ Shipley this guy is a stud he is a stallion and the Houston Texans at the beginning of the year had a banged up offensive line right but they've been protecting CJ well losing Titus what's that mean aq it's a huge blow they were a mess at the beginning of the year they had a lot of guys out and they finally got healthy over the last couple weeks they finally got everybody back this guy is a stud he's an absolute stud i mean they have their two bookends with with him and tonsil and they were oh cj was looking so good the texans were looking so good huge blow who knows where they go from here but But, I mean, we've talked about it. One guy makes a huge difference on the offensive line.

Yeah, because if you don't have the right guy that fills in there, you're looking for the synergy. And if you've got to bring another guy, it's like a potential revolving door on who's the guy there. Yeah, and even if he's just a little bit off, now we've got to get chip help. And what's chip help do? Now you get one less guy out in the routes,

and it could affect the entire offense. Yeah, and losing offensive linemen, no fun, especially when your quarterback's an absolute stallion. So, Titus, tease and peace, pal. Good luck, Titus. You know what CJ will do? What's that? Not even blink.

Nope. This dude's unbelievable. So good. Now, I'm seeing Jalen Hurts. I didn't know he's a sex symbol. Oh, yeah, big time. People are saying Jalen Hurts is a sex symbol. I did not know that

until a video of him at the Sixers game hit the internet where it was seen by a lot of people and the women that were quote tweeting the tweet were like they were thirsty. There were some thirsty tweets going out about Jalen Hurts and as I'm reading them I'm like, good for you Jalen. Okay, good

for you Jalen. And then there were some other quote tweets from dudes a lot of hating assholes. Yeah. A lot of haters of Jalen Hurts. I did not know that was the case just because he's too perfect is what people were saying. I had no idea. I had no idea. I thought Jalen Hurts was kind of like the epitome of what people want

in a human being. And yes, he's a stub, but also just the way he carries himself. We see him on the sideline, doesn't blink, doesn't react to anything. But boy, a lot of people are pretty pissed that, you know, hey, I kind of look like Jalen Hurts and people thought I was good looking. But then once Jalen Hurts came around, now everyone says I look like an ugly Jalen Hurts. There's a lot of that. And there's a lot of those type of comments that like,

I'm a poor man's Jalen Hurts. This guy ruined my life. It's a bummer, but yeah, people don't like him on, you know, the male side of the Twitter. Yeah, it's just because, you know, hate and envy and things like that. And I would like to say, Jalen, congrats on getting to this point where

you know, seemingly every lady would do whatever. Single lady. On X. On X, that I saw. It was only a few million people that responded to this. Just so, that's a pretty good focus group that you can kind of judge. I did not know people were just, you know, like that. And then

the dudes saying what the dudes are saying. Yeah. It's a whole nother story that I didn't even add in Wrinkle. Like, oh, he's good at football. Yeah. Oh, he's super strong. Yeah. Oh, he's the richest guy in the league. Oh, he doesn't lose at all. Oh, and he's incredibly handsome. Oh, he's the richest guy in the league. Oh, he doesn't lose at all. Oh, and he's incredibly handsome.

That's just all of the pieces of why you hate it. But Jalen Hurts is always like this. Feels like CJ's the exact same way. They lose a tackle. This rookie is seemingly never, ever blinked. I love the way he plays football. Houston's still in a great spot. Still in a great spot, as long as you got CJ there.

And obviously, offensive line is important. We saw how different the San Fernando line was when Trent Williams was out. You know, good thing they still have Laramie Tunstall, who's right in that conversation with Trent, in my opinion. I know A.K. No doubt. His opinion matters more. But, yeah, I think they'll be all right for sure.

CJ's a dog, dude. Dog. Blue dog. Did we know Jalen was a sex symbol? I don't think I was paying attention enough. Did you know that? I knew it. I knew it.

I saw it in the X on Instagram. It's been like that for a while. Probably, I would say probably coming into this year. He had some GQ stuff, shoots, had I think he signed the Jordan deal. Obviously, incredible success on the field and became the highest paid player. Hulu. Oh, and then he also has the full female management team. Yep.

I remember that. Oh, yeah. That was, then he also has the full female management team. Yep. I remember that. That was, yeah. I remember the full female management team. Like, this guy is, this is God's gift. Okay, it's all, all right. Good for Jalen, dude. Great for him. Winning.

Tough, tough for him on X. It is some of my favorite internet. It really has been since football season started. No, but X doesn't matter, remember? Yeah, well, no. X is a terrible place that you should never go on, even though it is the most. It the internet as it x runs the internet it's the greatest platform you know why people are paying 46 billion dollars to buy x because it runs the

internet it runs the narrative yes on the edge is how it is i now there's decisions that have been made by people at the top of that place yeah to quote tweet things that shouldn't all be out there. Using tough words. We agree. That is not good. But also, X runs the narratives on the air. It's just how it is. It's how it always will be. It's so damn important to everything. And the Jalen narrative, I would like it to change. I would

like people to be happy that we have Jalen Hurts. And that there's somebody out there that is as handsome as he is, and as successful, hard working, humble, seemingly great teammate. We need to keep that guy in good graces as opposed to just absolutely killing him. Some of the tweets I saw were some of the best crafted hate tweets that I've seen in a long time. D1 hater.

He's got a new D1 hater. Congratulations to you, pal. I love everything about it. Let's talk a little bit about Tyreek Hill, shall we, down there in Miami. I watched the first episode of Hard Knocks in-season Miami Dolphins from last week, last night. Now, episode two debuted last night, and I think it was documenting Jalen Phillips' Achilles tear.

Gumpy, big-time Dolphins fans following along. Yeah, the whole thing was basically Jalen Phillips tearing his Achilles. And then a lot of Jalen Ramsey, too. Actually hearing him talk a lot was very cool. Okay, sweet. He was also in the first one because he gets two picks, obviously, in the game that they're covering against the Raiders. And Jalen does his thing, gets game ball, that whole thing.

But whenever you listen and watch how that team operates from that Hard Knocks episode, episode one, it's like they've got a tight group down there. And I don't know who this Campanile guy is, this New York Italian seemingly defensive coach. He gave a speech that could have ended four to five different times. And it just kept getting better and better. Talking about his family and a burglar or somebody taking his family. And that's the type of pursuit that we need to have if somebody's stealing it. And then we're going to kick their ass.

Nobody talks to my kids that way. Nobody takes our family. And you see, like, I'm laughing my ass off while I'm watching it, hoping this guy loses his mind. And then they show Tyreek, like, yo, like laughing at him. And the closeness of that group is an incredible thing. McDaniel's leadership is something I've never seen before. The way he talks, the way he acts, the way he does anything.

I would assume most people, if you were to ask 10 years ago, showed a video of McDaniel, is this guy a good NFL coach? A lot of people would say, nobody takes that guy serious. Everybody does. This dude's brilliant out there. Legitimately McDaniel. I know you're a massive fan of what he does. He's going to be on in the trenches later, I believe.

But what do you see from the Miami Dolphins team and from McDaniel that maybe says this is different than anywhere else? Yeah, the one thing, we talked about this earlier, he takes plays that everybody else runs, but he adds a couple things to it. It's like one of those things when you go into these game plan meetings, everybody comes with ideas. They saw something on a college tape. They saw something on a high school tape.

They saw something somewhere. And it's like, hey, let's do that. And every coach is like, ah, we can't do that. He does it. He takes things. Why do they say no? Too risky? Yeah, it's too risky,, let's do that. And every coach is like, we can't do that. He does it. He takes things. Why do they say no? Too risky? Yeah, it's too risky and it takes a ton of practice. It takes a ton. And we see it on Hard Knock. We see it all the time

with him showing their ability on Wednesday and how much effort and planning goes into it and all that stuff, right? You have to put ten times the amount of effort to add new wrinkles, to add new plays, to add new little things. And you'll see it later on in the trenches. It's he does what everybody else does. It's one play, but you just switch the assignments of two guys and it makes a whole

different play. And the motion that they have is just something that nobody's done before the timing of their motion. And it's all very obvious that they have to practice it. And on hard knocks, McDaniel actually chatted with Tua because I guess at the beginning of the season, Tua would get very upset on Wednesday if he forgot a motion or if he forgot a little wrinkle to a play that it was. And McDaniel basically said to him, hey, you're doing good at controlling your anger whenever you forget something. He said at the beginning of the season, you'd be upset, but now it's just like one and then

you move on. I don't even think about how smart Tua has to be. All those motions that are happening, everything, right before he has to remember the cadence, by the way, right before he's doing the cadence, he's setting a guy in motion. Normally that's already done way before that, and it's off and

running. They are a well-oiled machine, but that machine has so many added pieces that they, I don't think we've ever seen before. So So go ahead. You mentioned it yesterday. Kyle obviously comes from the Shanahan tree. That snap we had with Purdy. Like that motion being right there, right before the snap.

Like Miami does a lot of that. And then you have a weapon like Tyreek, and he's running full speed across. You know, obviously he's going to be the key of the coverage on the back end. You got him shifting in motion. That's just an extra headache that not only you have to obviously play against, but even practicing. Like that's something you try to practice and try to emulate throughout the week, and it's tough.

Practices are awesome to watch on Hard Knocks. Here's Tyreek talking about this Miami Dolphins team yesterday on CBS Sports Galazo, Destination Miami. I believe this is Inter Miami. Gumpy, what is this? Is this a soccer show? CBS Sports Galazo with Thierry Henry and Micah Richards. He used to play for Man City I believe. And is that Clint?

Yeah. Clint Dempsey right there? Yeah, he's on that show as well. Okay, let's make sure we're paying respect to Clint Dempsey whenever he's on the set. Thank you. Okay, Gump, I know you're from Canada but that's our rapping goal scoring, trailblazing dog from Texas. Exactly. So Tyreek Hill stopped by a soccer show yesterday.

He was asked about the team and if they can go on a run. Gives a great answer. Tyreek, do you think you can go all the way? All the way to the Super Bowl? Yeah. Of course, man. Nice yards. We got the perfect team to do it.

You know, the way our head coach prepares us each and every week, man, it's next level. And he keeps each and every one of his guys in tune with the game plan and how we keep attention to detail each and every week. So it's a beautiful thing to see. Like the way we practice, like the way we play for one another is something that I've never seen before in a team. I won a Super Bowl, and I feel like this is probably the better team than when we won a Super Bowl back when I was on KC.

Obviously, man. But all we got to do, though, is we got to come out, obviously. We got to practice. We got to prepare. And we got to make sure we show up on game day. You feel me? No, I know. It can look good on paper, but we obviously got to get it done on Sundays.

On Hard Knocks, Episode 1, Tyreek talked about giving up a lot of things in his life to be fully committed, and he just got married, obviously, to his fiancee, and it seems like he's become the perfect leader for them. Yeah. What do you think whenever he says something like that about the Kansas City Chiefs team? Is he talking about it on paper, or what do you think he's talking about? I mean, been around the guys, practicing, and Andy Reid,

everybody knows who he is as a leader, as a coach. Everybody loves him. I feel like all the guys that I know that have played for him love playing for him. You hear a lot of that with Mike McDaniel. But Tyreek has been kind of singing these praises since he got there, even talking about Tua. I remember some comments came, I think, from his podcast saying that he was more accurate than Patrick Mahomes. And a lot of people obviously took, like, oh oh he's taking shots that's not true and then you see Tua go out and have

the seasons now back to back that he's been having so you have a quarterback like that you have weapons and it's it's very unconventional now can it go on and win the championship we'll see I hope so obviously but um and Tyreek obviously you know buys in he's one of their biggest personalities their best talents you get guys back losing Phillips big, but you have other guys that can step up. Yeah, Van Ginkle, right? He's going to have to be the guy that steps up there, Gumpy, for Jalen Phillips? Yeah, he was at a barbecue at Bradley Chubb's house on Hard Knocks yesterday.

Pretty sweet. Oh, yeah? Was he quiet? Guy in a corner? He said about ten words. Electrifying? Oh, yeah. Backwards hat. Looked awesome. That may be Ginkle! Hey, Jason Pierre-Paul, too. Jason Pierre-Paul just signed down there. Signed from the Saints practice squad.

Did we know that he was on the Saints practice squad? That feels like something we should have talked about because of who Jason Pierre-Paul is. Him getting that in there, who knows what's left on the tires. I hope he goes and kills it. I'm very excited for him to get back down to South Florida. That looked beautiful, by the way. Would be really a shame, you know, to live in Miami and win a Super Bowl down there.

Yeah, that'd stink. That would be a real bummer to have to go live down there. Now, I don't know how people do it. I go down there, immediately go to vacation mode, can't stay focused, can't do anything. Sure, sure. That's why you got to keep me out of those warm weather climates for most of the year because I will get nothing done. I don't care.

You know, just, you know, yeah. Let's go to the beach. Why not have a little cocktail? Nice out. Yeah. Like you living in Arizona? Dangerous play if I was to do that. And we all know Tyreek, though.

Incredibly confident guy. Hardworking guy. What did he say? He wanted to be a porn star when he was done in Arizona? He did, yes. Yeah. Loves the line of work. That was before he got married.

That was before he got married. About three weeks ago. I was going to say it was a couple weeks before he got married so and maybe he was just talking his shit You know what I mean just gonna bend letting people know the job Job hey a lot of people make a lot of money on it crazy What's going on? He could easily be you know porn's next new stud. He could win that award easy at the PA's What's the PA? Porn Awards. Is that what they're called? AVNs.

There it is. Too quick. Too quick in the back back there. You're married too. What's going on? Whoa, Nick. That was unbelievable. A lot of years of research. It's in Vegas. I don't know how I know that, but it's in Vegas. Nick and AQ are kind of like the Warren Sharpe of the porn world. They write a book

about it. They're very invested. They know the new things, the new designs that people are using in their offense, if you will. Oh yeah, you got little wrinkles being added this year at the AVNs, boys? Hopefully not too many. It's really Tone's world. More kind of disciples

underneath his empire. Tone would have shined right now. Hopefully he doesn't come back from the cave with something like that knowledge under his belt you almost said something in there all right uh speaking of another quarterback that we absolutely love and we're not 100 sure if he's gonna get in the porn world i don't think that is anywhere near his future but maybe another super bowl is russell wilson is speaking about the turnaround about the denver broncos this year.

But if you recall what he said whenever they were 1-3, he's just speaking from the heart and speaking from the book of Russell Wilson. This is Sean Payton. I'm sorry, this is Russell Wilson way back earlier in the year when we were all killing him. Yeah. And this is Russell Wilson now. This guy's never changing for nothing.

It's going to be a great season, I still believe. We still believe. We believe. We believe. We're going to keep believing. So that's what we're going to do. We just believed. We believed.

And when we got that win, you know, it was a tough, tough game. We were struggling in the first half. And then we just kind of took over. And that's when kind of the belief really started happening. And I think the biggest thing is we played some really great teams. Hell, yeah. So this is him calling back from the book of Russell. If you remember, whenever we were one and three, all we needed to do was believe.

Now what is different? Well, we believed is what we did. They bought in. Do you believe in the Denver Broncos? I'm a big fan of what they're doing. They've changed the way that they play football up front, especially. I mean, their offensive line is doing a great job. They're running the ball.

They got good schemes. Sean's doing a great job. They're running the ball. They got good schemes. Sean's doing a great job scheming it up right now. So you believe in the Denver Broncos? I like what they're doing. At one and three, did you believe? Nope. See, that's the issue. You know, when Russell Wilson speaks, we got to listen.

That's what I just learned right there. For sure. Russell Wilson's during this five-game win streak. They're obviously have won five since the moment he said we got to believe. 202 total yards per game. Eight touchdowns, 71.6 completion percentage, 109.5 rating. Broncos are 6-5 or in the playoff hunt, and everybody said they were going to beat dead.

Remember, Sean Payton called out Nathaniel Hackett in the offseason. Nathaniel Hackett was head coach for the Broncos for one year. It did not go well. Russell Wilson had his worst year of his career by far. Then they started terribly, and Russell Wilson did not look great. Russell Wilson had his worst year of his career by far. Then they started terribly and Russell Wilson did not look great. The offense was not there. And then flashes of old Russ started coming out. He got back in the kitchen and

started cooking. They started running the ball a little bit more. They started protecting a little bit better. Cortland Sutton started making plays looking like Ty Lockett and all of a sudden we're like, wait a minute, Sean Payton is a good coach. Russell Wilson is good at football and that Denver Broncos defense, what it looked like at the beginning of the season when it was giving up

70 to the Miami Dolphins? Vastly different. Looks like what they looked like last year whenever they were a great D. D-Butt, I ask you, do you believe in Russell Wilson and Denver Broncos? Yeah, good football team. And Russell has been playing good football all season long, even when they weren't winning.

Honestly, his numbers were pretty good. It was defensively kind of a shit show over there. To your point, they turned things around. Number one in turnover margin. Talked about that yesterday. Plus 13 in the last five weeks. Also, number two in the league in points per game during that stretch. 16 points per game. Then number five in the league on

third down conversions on defense. Why were they so terrible at the beginning? Vance Joseph and them were just speaking two different languages? I mean, they look like nothing like what they were supposed to look like. Hey, sometimes you just got to get smacked in the mouth. You got to get embarrassed sometimes. And 70 points, that's a generational embarrassment. Yeah.

And guys, you know, you got to look. And they've had talented guys over there. Obviously, Kareem's down, but Justin Simmons, Patrick Sertain, best corner in the league probably. McMillan has been making plays in the slot since he's been in there. Young guys up front, obviously you get rid of Gregory, you give those guys an opportunity. It's been a team effort.

You've got to respect when guys kind of look themselves in the mirror and flip the switch, and they've definitely done that on both sides of the ball, in my opinion. Yeah, Vance Joseph. I remember they were talking about the rumors were flying behind. I said, they're going to get rid of Vance. Because he's got too much talent there, and they're playing very bad. Remember they were saying, Rex Ryan.

And by they, people were telling me, Rex Ryan's going to get approached to be the Denver Broncos defense coordinator. And that owner over there, the Waltons, the Walmart family, they got enough money to pay him head coaching money to be a defense coordinator over there. They're just going to want people to win. Now, a whole different ballgame. Now it's like, this is Vance's defense.

Vance is doing his thing. They're playing great football. Sean Payton's got the offense rolling. Good for Denver, because you're in Patrick Mahomes' division. Yeah, you are. You know, so I'm happy that you're kind of doing this thing. Now, on the defense side of the ball, there's obviously a conversation happening for Defense Player of the Year.

Is it going to be TJ? What? Or is it going to be Miles Garrett, who can just take games over? Well, let's listen to what Mike Tomlin had to say, head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, about TJ Watt and how he feels about him. TJ is the best defensive player on the planet. Okay. Right now.

And he proves that week in and week out with the plays that he delivers us. I get a bird's eye view of it. I see the lifts that people go through to minimize his impact on the game. I know the type of games that we've been in, close ball games, and how that at times minimizes a guy that plays his position's ability to impact the game. None of those things slow down the train that we all know is coming. Okay, so Mike Tomlin's weighing in. Obviously, Mike Tomlin is a massive piece of tj waltz success i would assume tj would say that but then you start thinking like i'm miles garrett pretty good pretty good we agree we love miles

garrett yes we actually said they should put a statue of miles garrett in canton and say like yeah this exists in the nfl we don't know what your league has, but we know we got one of these. Do you have one of these? Oh, and by the way, windmill dunks whenever, you know, whatever it needs. This is what a football player can look like and does look like. Welcome to the NFL. We've said that. There's stats coming out now, though.

Hey, and I'm not a big, like, hey, stats mean everything guy. TJ Watt, Miles Garrett, 31- and whenever it comes solo tackles 13 and a half sacks 13 sacks three force fumbles verse four oh miles garrett take the lead there fumble recovered interceptions touchdowns tackle for loss qb hits you name it right and jj is going to come on here in about 20 minutes and probably echo a lot of these particular sentiments. But this doesn't get chatted about, mostly because the convo about the Pittsburgh Steelers was how goddamn terrible Matt Canada was as an offensive coordinator.

I didn't know those stats were real. Actually, whenever I saw them, I'm like, can we get another look at this thing? Yeah, make sure it's real. Because whenever I saw Myles Garrett play against Colts, it's like Myles Garrett took that game over. And I know TJ does the same exact thing, but they didn't have an offense that was anywhere near

not being the conversation of like, is TJ able to do it? I like that Mike Tomlin went to bat, and I like that we're seeing these stats. It just seems like when guys are like generational talents, like TJ Watt is, like there's just an expectation that he's supposed to do that every year. Because I always think about like some of the years Rodgers had when he was with the packers like he'd throw 26 touchdowns and

four interceptions but no like you know he's nowhere near the mvp conversation because by his standards like that wasn't a great year and and he came on the show and said hey you know like down years were for me were career years for another other guys i feel like it's kind of similar with tj like he just does this stuff year in year out and it's kind of just the expectation like if he doesn't have 15 or more sacks you you're almost saying like oh wow you know is tj losing a step he didn't quite have the year he had last year and then also you know he's had the injuries and stuff like that but it's like when he plays and when he is healthy like he's gonna have this kind of year every single year and they should block the guy aq. And they should block the guy, AQ.

All right, offensive line, you should block the guy. Maybe you should put a hand on TJ Watt, potentially, AQ. Not sure what they're doing there. Really not sure what they're doing there. Well, maybe Browning said let him through. No, exactly. Sunshine did not have a tight end. Try and flip him.

Let TJ, let DeBoer through. Maybe that's what he said, and Browning just didn't know. You bring up Aaron Rodgers. We've got some breaking news on Aaron Rodgers. The New York Jets have opened the practice window for quarterback Aaron Rodgers' return. Now, that's a 21-day window, I do believe. We've seen it around the NFL already this year with Kyler Murray.

I believe Justin Jefferson had his open, and it's the next step in returning from IR. And this is all very new in the NFL already this year with Kyler Murray. I believe Justin Jefferson had his open. And it's the next step in returning from IR. And this is all very new in the NFL. It used to be you go in IR, you're done forever. Then there was a couple people that were allowed to come back early. Now it's just kind of this is how it is in the NFL, which is a much better place. We think we all agree with that, that it is a much better place

so you can come back from it. So 21 days to go into a practice. If Aaron Rodgers accomplishes this, and he could have taught us this yesterday. Yeah, that would have been sweet. That was the first thought. He's always been, you know, pretty maybe. Remember that one week

he said no real progression. Then he was doing four or five step dropbacks a couple days later. So he's sandbagging us as well as the rest of the world. And Greg Doyle's not happy about it. No, no, no. The Indian star. But this is bananas.

And if the Jets are still in it, and he's healthy enough to come back, and he was to play football again this year, it would be a story that people would talk about forever. I think A.Q. Shipley. That would be the most insane thing ever. I mean, I've watched guys get Achilles injuries. They are terrible injuries. And they take so much time to recover

and they're worried about him the next year 11 worried about the next year and and we're three months 11 weeks he said tomorrow's 11 weeks from surgery i mean the fact that he's going to be on a practice field this week is crazy no we don't know if he'll be on he's got three weeks they just open it yeah and numerous players have gone through these three weeks and not got on the field. Justin Jefferson, actually, after the window closed, they designated him back going into their bye week just now today. Shout out to the Vikings getting Justin Jefferson back. Huge.

He's activated from injured reserve today. So I don't know what the practice window necessarily means. Maybe they just want to be able to test people on the field. You've got 21 days to kind of test them, and then they're able to bring them back even if it's not in that window so they just they have to put them back on the roster all right activate them i don't know i don't know jefferson thing made it seem like his window closed a few days ago yeah yeah but did they put them on and then like just have them inactive and then now he'll be active this week i think you

have to you don't have to make a designation after that 21-day window. I do not know. Honestly, I do not know. Very new. But I will say this. Aaron said yesterday, he said that he hopes that what he's doing will give people more confidence to try the surgery that he did in the rehab that he did.

Because I think this is potential. Now, when we start talking about science on this show, people love it. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Modern Medicine. I'm Pat McAfee. I'll be I think this is potential. Now, when we start talking about science on this show, people love it. Oh, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Modern Medicine. I'm Pat McAfee. I'll be your host today. I believe this particular surgery has been around,

but I assume that there's been a lot of people that haven't trusted it. So it's like, nah, there's no reason to rush an Achilles. This is a devastating injury. Don't do this. From the way it sounded with Aaron yesterday, he's hoping that others will see what he's been able to accomplish in 11 weeks with this Eletroche surgery that I think is a very aggressive type surgery

to get back to heal the Achilles in the rehab and recovery of it all. I think he is trying to prove that, yeah, it might have been a little risky, but also this doesn't need to be 11 months. It could be 11 weeks instead of 11 months, which is absolutely bananas. And that would change sports medicine going forward.

It would be not just on this continent, by the way. Soccer players, anybody that this happens to, it'll be a whole new world. You think about the ACL. The ACL used to be like, hey, it's over. Yeah, death sentence. And then science, medicine, doctors want to work. And it's like, okay okay they have the acl figured out now people are coming back stronger after acls which is great news for everybody in

sports and everybody in the world it's like the achilles seem to be this thing that was just always going to be a killer always going to be a killer you're out for at least a year maybe the next year as well you're never going to come back the same because the achilles is something we don't understand and whenever it rips could it could have for no reason can i strengthen it more that's what they so is it just going to tear and i won't maybe can i strengthen it we don't know how come it's always non-contact well we know you're out for about 12 months it's like damn that is a very aggressive thing to happen here in 2020 2021 2022 and now here we are with aaron saying that doesn't have to be that

way we can change it there's a lot of people hoping that aaron has success whenever he gets back on the field but if he gets back and it's not good boy yeah they are going to be in his face oh yeah about the science and what it's – yeah. We're hoping that's not the case. This is a game changer for everybody. For sure. And that's why you just hope, just hope that the Jets can kind of just hang on. Because it really is.

Like, if they lose their next two games, like, I get it, and that would be sweet for him to come back and play before, you know, anyone else has ever come back and do this but it's like is it really worth it because at that point they're already thinking hey now next year is is what this year was supposed to be we're going all in you know they'll have a actually have a high draft pick too so we'll be able to get someone else like i just hope they're not in a situation where because we all know he wants to get back really bad but i hope it's not a situation where they're 4-11 or whatever,

and he's like, well, you know what? I've done all this. I've kind of put everything I have into this. I might as well come back early kind of just to prove that it can be done. So D-Butt was right. So they have 21 days to activate them, and if they do not activate them onto the roster, then they go on the IR for the rest of the year.

So basically saying in the next three weeks we'll make a decision on what Aaron's going to be or what he's not going to be. Now, could you just have him be on the 53 or whatever it is and still not healthy? Yes. I think that's what they did to Justin Jefferson for a little bit there. And then they've activated him. So here we go. We got three weeks now.

That would be 14 weeks after surgery whenever this 21 days is up. And if he's able to come back and the Jets are somehow in it. Yeah. That's a big somehow. It's impossible. that's a big somehow. It's impossible. That's a big somehow. It's not happening. I'm sorry. Aaron, I think, could come back and play at this point, for sure. Definitely possible. They're not going to be in it in two

weeks. Speaking of returning and being back, Bobby Petrino's back in Arkansas. Yes! We know Bob from Louisville and the Atlanta Falcons. Right. That went really well. Yeah.

He went over to Arkansas, and that ended in a crash and burn. Yeah. On face. Yep. Neck. Yeah. Motorcycle. You bet.

Public. Yeah. Situation. Right. Noted good guy. Yep. I think. I don't know. There he is. That may have been a guy. Yeah. I think. I don't know.

There he is. That may have been a bit facetious, but. This is how it ended. Yep. Okay. He would be let go of his duties just a few days after this whole situation took place publicly. Yeah, I was going to say Sugar Bowl.

That was good. That was a good team. And that was not from a football incident. Okay. We just want to let you know that was not a locker room. Not a term. It was not. Yeah, he was not from a football incident. We just want to let you know that was not in the locker room. Not a turn. He was not running sprints in his face. He was on a motorcycle.

He wasn't lying on a motorcycle. He was doing his thing out there in Arkansas. Wombang pow, how you doing? Now here we are, 2023. He's going back to be offense coordinator. This was Petrino's messaging on X. Rest in peace, Ryan Mallett.ett Ryan Mallett obviously a legend from Arkansas ended up at Arkansas after transferring

out of Michigan to go back to Arkansas we had a chance to hang out, have a few beers with Ryan Mallett in Arkansas with John Daly performing a song it was the most Arkansas night of all time, it was awesome the world will miss Ryan Mallett and has missed it. And Bobby Petrinkas, it's you and me, 15.

Proud to be coming home. Now let's bring the Hogs a championship. Hashtag. Pigs! I'm happy for him. Yeah. Pumped. I didn't think he would ever go back to Arkansas

That just feels like as a human You would not want to return But he's like I got unfinished business I got to finish that motorcycle rack I got to take this team to the top And he's doing it with a guy who I would assume Had a lot of respect for him So maybe we need to change the way we view Petrino

Because we have respect for Ryan Mallett Ryan Mallett obviously Bobby Petrino would not put that up If he and Ryan Mallett don not have a good relationship, right? I hope. I mean, noted good guys. Yeah, maybe. Jeez Louise.

It would be a baby face. Easy move. I was going to say, you're not going to get a whole lot of people hating on that tweet there. You don't think Ryan Mallett's family would be like, excuse me, asshole, this ain't how this is going to go. You don't think that would happen? Maybe, but he could say, oh, no, you don't know.

Me and Ryan were tighter than any of you guys were with him. I was his favorite coach ever. Ask him. Anyways, Petrina's going back to Arkansas, and it was a good moment there with Ryan Mallett. We appreciate Ryan Mallett. Dude had a hose. Oh, yeah.

Absolute hose. So tall. Do you remember how tall he was in that Arkansas bar? He was so tall. Had no idea he was going to be there. And then we got there. It was like, we're in Arkansas. Of course.

Of course, every human from Arkansas is here. That place was awesome. Absolutely packed out. He towered over that crowd, too. A week before, we were in New York City. I wore a tank top right into the bar that we went to in New York City. All good. Arkansas, not allowed to wear a tank top right into the bar that we went to in New York City. All good. Arkansas, not allowed in with tank tops.

Interesting. What? Not allowed in. Not here. It was awesome. I would not be there. There was like dust running down the street. Tumbleweed.

Tumbleweed rolling down the thing. There was like two bars in the place. They had some biker wars going on. They didn't want to know. Pat may have been affiliated with the Sleeveless. Yeah, he said, you're going to put sleeves on in this bar. And I was like, first time I've heard that. I just want bar and i was like first time i've heard that i just want to let you know first time i've heard that respect it i went and bought a jake owen what color green turquoise neon no he has surf

who surf green whatever like an ocean i provided jake owens with a xl and a double xl uh green shirt that i see phone see phone green shirt that i wore andafoam, seafoam green shirt that I wore. And we had the night of our life. I looked like a mark walking around that bar. His shirt was too small. Did the whole thing. And we got boozed up pretty heavily out there. Hell yeah.

And I ended up on Jake Owen's bus with his guitar. And I was promptly kicked off that bus. What? I was playing one song for about 45 minutes. It's the only one I know. What do you want? I was hoping to get signed to his label. Good song?

Good guy. Huh? Good song? Batman. Batman. Yeah, it's a great song. So yeah, it's a hit. Yeah, but that's all I know. And then I think I was a little boozed up.

I forgot I had just played it maybe 10 seconds before that. I was like, listen to this one. Check it out. Yeah. I thought you could do the other one too. I had a great time. Yeah, it might have been. There it is.

Back and forth. About 3.30 a.m. Just got done with a golf outing at John Daly's Golf Course. And then a full concert. And then this guy's got to deal with me with his guitar that he just had on stage. Let me see him shred this thing. What a night. I love Arkansas. I hope see him shred this thing. What a night. I love Arkansas.

I hope Bobby Petrino wins. Me too. I hope he does. And I hope Ryan Mallett gets a damn statue out there. And John Daly, we miss you, pal. He was at DJ Khaled's birthday party. What? John Daly.

Are you kidding me? He was at DJ Khaled's birthday party, yeah. That's sweet. Nick has slept at John Daly's house twice. Cooked me chicken. It was a real treat. Thank has slept at John Daly's house twice. Cook me chicken. It was a real treat. Thank you, John. Was it good?

Yes. Of course. Of course it could. They got to ask. I watched him smoke maybe 67 straight cigarettes. Yeah. One of the most impressive things I've ever seen in my life. He's a hero.

Then a gallon of chocolate milk. He's a hero in those communities for us. It was phenomenal. He grew up in a dry county. Nobody knows that. But they got all the beer in the state in their garages. Dry counties are actually just, each house is a bar. Yep.

That's what I learned. And boy, we tried to drink them dry as well. Football! It's happening. Okay? All around your faces. You just got to look for it. The Talks Table is here.

At Boss O'Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Nice elephant on his chest today. The petty remembering of everything animal that we have come to love has made another great presence on this particular program. Yeah, elephants, I think they're a fan favorite. Everybody loves elephants. I think if you ask anybody, they should be in everyone's top five. Circus is coming to town here in Indianapolis.

Really? No animals. No clowns. Wait, no kidding. No animals. It's not a circus. I watched the commercial, and they're like, the circus is in town. I'm like, oh, people are going to get mad because those elephants inevitably are going to smack them in the mouth.

The lions are going to be upset. And they said, no animals. I'm like, all right. So they just got a bunch of Stevos running around, I guess, doing a bunch of crazy stuff. And they said, no animals. I'm like, all right. So they just got a bunch of Steve-Os running around, I guess, doing a bunch of crazy stuff. And they're like, no clowns either. It's like, okay, hey, everything that potentially brings a little negativity, the circus said we don't want them.

I assume they're going to have the people doing the thing. Trapeze and whatnot. That's not the circus. That is the circus. That circus sucks if they don't have animals. What are you talking about? That looks awesome. You don't think that?

There's no way this is who it is. They're dressed up as the animals. Pringling, bro. That's not what we came for. I want to see an elephant. I want to see a lion. I don't know if you've heard about how those animals are treated. Yeah.

It's like the orangutans down at the zoo. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. That's what it's like. Those orangutans have been looking for somewhere to hang, too. It's orangutan. You know what I mean? But I appreciate you mispronouncing it on purpose, seemingly, what it's like. Those orangutans have been looking for somewhere to hang, too. It's orangutan, you know what I mean? But I appreciate you mispronouncing it on purpose, seemingly,

because of how they look out there. Those orangutans, you're looking in the eyes of a human that is not happy with where it's at right now. So bummed. And if you get lucky and you catch it at the right time, it'll dump right there while it's looking at you and say, yeah, this is what I'm doing. This is my life.

Oh, there's my pillow for tonight. That's what it feels like. Yeah, pretty much. Can we get a ball in there for them to throw around? Anything. Maybe a TV for them to watch? They probably can't have those things because they'll try and, you know, end it to get out of that goddamn cage. Yeah, I don't know.

They said they had it on to make it better. We should go check it out this summer, next summer. We should go check out the zoo. The happier orangutans. I mean, I went to the zoo last summer, and they weren't any more happy. Well, it was a hot day. None of us are happy on a hot day. I don't think any monkey inside of Indiana is happy on any day.

That's a good question. We'll look into it more. Nine-year NFL vet is here, a man who has been sitting in place of one half of the Hammer. Cowboys, Tone Diggs. T's and P's, we think you'll be back soon. Dariusyear NFL vet is here. A man who has been sitting in place of one half of the Hammer. Cowboys Tone Diggs. T's and P's. We think you'll be back soon. Darius J. Butler is here. How are you doing, pal? Great. How's it? Yeah, better than those orangutans, is what you're saying. Much better than everyone. Certainly those elephants and lions

that are in those circuses. Yeah, I mean we mentioned the zoo. The elephant that they had at those two zoos, they looked almost white because they were just covered in dust and shit. And they couldn't even. Well, they roll around. They couldn't.

And then you should have seen the puddle they had formed to mess around in. It was pathetic. Look, Indiana Zoo, please help your animals. That's a beautiful zoo. It is a beautiful area. It's a beautiful zoo. It's right on the canal. I walk by it all the time.

I'm just saying the animals. Well, you want a day where it's 110 degrees. Animals aren a beautiful zoo. It's right on the canal. I walk by it all the time. I'm just saying the animals Well, you want it on a day where it's 110 degrees. The animals aren't as happy. No. I'm telling you. This is 24-7. There were rhinoceroses that I thought were boulders just dead and then they told me no. They were napping. Those are the rhinos. They were napping. That's not what they look like

either. That's what an elephant looks like. That's not what the Indianapolis Zoo looks like. That is literally from the Indy Zoo looks like. That is literally from the Indy Zoo. That is a picture live from the Indy Zoo. That's probably where they take them when they have good behavior for eight months and they get two days inside this, what, concrete box? That's what you get rewarded with?

I would like to say the Indy Zoo is fantastic. It is. It is a nice zoo. It is fantastic. The animals call a lot of moxie, though. They do. Like, here's an orangutan, for instance, that I've made eye contact with. They know you. You know them. And they say orangutans

are humans, pretty much. Obviously, you could get into the conversation however you want to take that conversation. Whatever. I just say, I'm not getting into it. How so? Well, just like evolution and the whole other thing that could, you know. I'm not the person that should be talking about it. What do you mean?

Evolution versus what? Creation. Science. Hello. Oh, science versus religion. Yeah. Oh. I'm not going to get into it, but I will say you go to the zoo, you look at orangutan,

you think to yourself, that seems very similar. I raise my eyebrow, it raises its eyebrow. Wait a minute. You know, it's dumping on the same spot I'm dumping out of. It's waving, catching. It's peeling things. It's eating the same exact way. It's like that feels like that's a –

can we get a TV for this thing to watch? That's kind of what you start thinking about when you get in there. Indy Zoo is great, and they got a lot of moxie. Speaking of a lot of moxie, 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion, Jackie Moon, player coach, ladies and gentlemen, A.Q. Shipley. A.Q., did you ever see these orangutans? Not.

Not at the Indy Zoo, no. Have you ever seen an orangutan before? Yeah, absolutely. Great. I'm talking to you. Brilliant. We need to get them on our side. You know what I mean with everything that's kind of happening? We need to get these orangutans on our side. I'd rather have the old school instead of the new AI. You know what I mean? I I'd rather have the old school. How do we do that? Instead of the new AI. You know what I mean?

I agree. Give me the old school, paws on the ground, hands on the ground. I agree. Orangutan over the AI. Can't trust either of those. They're real strong. What are you talking about? The orangutans over the AI.

Both will turn on you at any given moment. Well, Mrs. Brooke, my fifth grade teacher, who wanted me sent to boot camp because I was selling cigs and she was not happy about it. She's actually the one that found the carton of cigarettes in my backpack on the pat hook in the back of her classroom. She had a pet orangutan. It turned on her. Never saw her teach again. She died? I think it just ripped her entire back and face off. Oh, so she's dead. No, no. Miss Brooke was a tough cookie. She was not happy. I think she did take all the cigs that I was selling to directly to her house,

which I can respect and appreciate. But she had orangutan. That orangutan turned. Every friend that I've had that has had a monkey said that at one point, it's going to be you or the monkey, whoa. And at one point, you just got to let that monkey know that you're the alpha. And when that time comes, if you don't show up to the test, it's their house now. That's just what we get. What are you laughing's their house now. What are you laughing about?

So funny. What are you laughing about? I mean, nobody stands a chance. Look at those things. Especially not skinny AQ. Fat AQ might have had a chance. You know what I mean? The science says they're like 10 times stronger than any human. Oh, okay.

That's like Michigan's favored by 23 and a half over Iowa. Miracles can happen. So the sportsbook's got the orangutans versus the humans at minus 1,000. Who cares? We got a chance. Bingo! Joining us now is a man who probably thinks he has an actual shot. A man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a

Ryder Cup winner, and an absolute stallion of a human who's beat COVID multiple times and had 10 kids. The president of Ohio, A.J. Hawk. of ohio aj hawk hey jay you've heard the orangutan conversation obviously i've seen some that are in battling boredom uh in one particular zoo but we have nothing but respect for them aq seems to just have this quitting mentality that we can't alpha an orangutan i assume you're a man if you got in there would be able to befriend one of these orangutans by shaking their hands and alphaing them? Absolutely not. You have heard me mention on this program multiple times.

I do not mess with primates. Once they kind of hit, what, the two, three-year mark, what do they do? You see AQ sitting there, meat out, right at the camera. They come for your meat, and then they shove it in your mouth, and they're going to rip your face off, too. So I will not mess with primates especially once they have hit puberty. What? Alright. We'll keep that in mind. Because you've got to

be with Caesar before he hits puberty. Exactly. Right? You've got to be with him before they hit puberty so they remember you because I love those videos whenever they... It doesn't matter. No, no. It doesn't matter if you have them after puberty if they have whatever if they're attached to you. Once they hit puberty, it's just a matter of time before they rip your meat off, and you know that.

No. I do not know that. Yes, you do. That's how it goes. I do not know that. I've seen the videos where they let these gorillas back into the wild. Thank you. And then 10 years later, the parents.

It's cool for a little bit. Cool for a little bit, pal, until they come for you. You know that. It's just a matter of time. James Franco in Planet of the Apes. They never came to James Franco. I'm not going to talk about James Franco in Planet of the Apes, which is an awesome movie. Well, I'm talking more chimpanzees

as well, too. I don't know as much about orangutans, but yes. The orangutans are a real deal. They're us. The orangutans are the most us. They use the... They will whittle stuff away. They're like super-duper human. But the macaques. They use the they like will whittle stuff away. They'll peel. They're like super duper human. Like they are. But the macaques. Actually, joining us now. I love the macaques.

Yeah, the macaques. Hey, listen, the macaques over there in Asia do not play games. None. Wash their fruit. They wash their clothes. They'll put on shoes. These things will put on little shoes to run around. You got a lot of rocks. I've seen these things. The macaques. They're the real deal. They're tiny. They're tiny. No. It doesn't matter. They're the real deal. They're tiny. They're tiny. No.

It doesn't matter. They're never around humans. But if they were, we could just kick them right down the street because they are small. But they have a tiered system where if you're born in this one, you ain't ever getting up the rest of the pyramid pretty much. Kind of like Japan. So there's like royal families. Yeah. They kind of get born in these macaques.

I watched a documentary. There was somebody that was- woman, a female macaque Actually who started at the bottom And she was a dog And she just boom, you're dead Bang, you're dead And the community had to handle it A couple murders within the community

And she just said no, I'm the captain now It was a great documentary It was 100% true too And I don't know how they filmed it and how they got them to speak but it was fantastic she's still ruling too yeah she is your iron fist they call her putin wait they got the macaques to talk yes well they're just body language what they were like kind of lean i gotta see this i gotta see this oh. We got a lot of talking macaques out there. And for everybody that doesn't believe us, look it up. M-A-C-A-C-Q-U-E. Macaque, I believe is how it's spelled.

That's you. Joining us now is a guy who's a big macaque fan. He is. I have never seen a guy love macaque more than J.J. Watt. Amen. Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Watt. Yeah, J.J.! You love these macaques, don't you?

I'm still, there's a lot to process here. There is a lot to process. I don't even know where to start. A.J.'s putting claims on these chimps saying they're going straight for the meat. I don't, I've never heard that in my life. That's a straight, no. Why? Why that?

Why do you think they love bananas so much? Yeah, exactly. Put it in your mouth. They want your parents to find you. Disrespectful. The spelling of macaque just threw me for a loop. I'm still trying to process the letters that you just put together to spell that word. Yeah.

Not sure it was right, though, but it's something along those lines. Let's move past. You think we're okay? You think we're okay with the orangutans if we were to befriend them and alpha them maybe get them on our squad jason no no we're screwed they're precious they would crush us we need to worry about the mccalks more than we need to worry about the orangutans just because the mentality of the two different ones but no no let's move on you have an arm sleeve on what happened you're going through drill? It's just a shirt.

I just got out of the cold tub and I'm freezing. I'm freezing, so I put a shirt on under a shirt. Not proud of it. What cold tub did you get in? Michael Phelps. Oh, it's at my house. It's mine. It's mine at my house, but he made it. It's his company. There you go.

Free pub. Already worth the free his company. There you go. Free pub. Already worth the free cold tub. Thanks, Michael. Hey, way to go, Jay. He has the cold and hot tub combos, doesn't he, that they sell? They're ones next to each other. Yes, he does. Yes, he does.

So you're still using it? Yeah, it's really good. You use those every single workout, every single day, or just when you're preparing to return to the NFL? I use them every day, man. I use them every day. I love it. Little 38 degrees degrees hop in

five minutes great do you go to the hot tub as well do you do the flushing um no I do not I'm a just cold guy I'd like to just just the cold and then I carry on with my day the flushing is supposed to be the super duper one this is a real conversation here that one yeah that one kind of came in after the cold tub so i was big cold tub user whenever i was playing and kicking balls in the league it felt like just like a cheat code i didn't know if it actually worked but i did feel fresher better afterwards every single time so it's like all right i'm gonna keep doing this and then they're like no you gotta flush now too you gotta go from cold tub to hot tub to cold three minutes two minutes three minutes two

minutes one minute and then you're done like there's like a certain system behind it all and then i saw philips sells the one next to it i think that aj just brought up like you're supposed to do the flushing is that real that's what i should yeah so like i i was i'm like you like i i grew up understanding that you're supposed to go cold tub for like 15 minutes after a workout. As soon as you're done with the workout, as soon as you're done with the practice, you're supposed to hop in the cold tub. Now we're told that getting in a cold tub or getting in an ice bath immediately after a workout or a practice is one of the worst things you can do

because it slows down the recovery process. You're not supposed to get in immediately after. You're actually supposed to be doing it either first thing in the morning or prior to your workouts or your sessions so it's it's i've definitely learned things and i'm i've always said like i'm a guy who's going to try things i want to i want to figure out what actually is the best and i'm very curious if someday we're going to find out that what we're doing now is wrong but it just always evolves well there's never been anything in society that has just been completely to be wrong you know like 10 years after you know what i mean like there's a lot of

things that we just sat through classes that we were supposed to force today you have to know this and then just a few years later maybe one decade later it's like yeah everything you were taught was wrong it's like well okay that's really news. And it feels to be happening in the fitness world every single day. We'll continue to listen to guys like you. Now, you say you're open to trying things and learning things. You know, let's go one week ago to what Bubba Gumpino told you before you traveled over to see the Hammers take on Burnley. Run it.

JJ, if you talk to Vincent, coach company, if we get up a goal, let's just put all the lads behind the ball and get a point. Let's park it. Park the bus. There's nothing wrong with that. Okay, so you got a chance to go over. We saw all year you're pouring a beer, you're doing a crowd thing. We also saw, what was the score of that game with like four minutes left, Gumpy?

It was 1-0 for the proud Burnley squad in the 86th minute. And then what was the final score after the game ended? Unfortunately, lost 2-1 to the Hammers. What? We gave you the answer! Gumby literally gave us the greatest footy gumbler on earth. That guy knows. We gave you the answer, JJ. It was in your face. You were there.

We saw it. How'd this happen? What are we doing over there? We're going to get relegated! Come on! It was devastating. I mean, there's no other way to put it, man. I was in the stands with the fans. We went up 1-0. I mean, everything you hope for.

The whole reason to fly over there is like this moment. Like we go up 1-0 against a team that's, you know, playing really good football right now and it's late in the game so you're like all right yes i want i wanted to be the good luck charm i'm coming over i'm now the good luck charm oh the hero i'm standing in the fans we're all we're all cheering we're all high-fiving their beer flying i think it's great and then and then five minutes left man they score the first, or like it was 86th minute. They scored the first one.

She's like, damn it. And I'm like, all right, one to one. Now I'm trying to hype myself back up and be like, if you told me coming into this game that we get one point, all right,

I'll take that. And then five minutes later, man, they hit the second one and it was just pure devastation. It was an extra time. Very late. Yeah, it was, it wasn't like that. I think it was just pure devastation. And extra time? It was an extra time? Very late. Yeah, it wasn't like that. I think it was 91st minute, 92nd minute.

Oh, no. Game's not supposed to be that long. Was it your guys' fault that there was extra minutes? Was it a Burnley player that was rolling around that they had to give an extra four minutes to? Dumpy, what was the full play of the game, do you recall? No, every game kind of goes six to eight minutes extra time. Now they've kind of changed it with the World Cup.

There's a lot of extra time in every game. What's that, AJ? Well, it's to avoid the time wasting, actually, because players would time waste and then they wouldn't have time on, so they would have a bitch. Yeah, so, JJ, you're losing that extra six to eight minutes that's just in every game now. 90-minute game, but actually 96 and a half, 98 minutes.

And you guys just couldn't hold on? I was so ready for a great night. I was going to go straight to the pubs. I was going to just have a good time. I saw you pouring beers over there. You look like a professional. Did you go over to Dublin and do the whole Guinness? Oh, yeah.

I've been over there for that. Professional. So I did this back in March when I was with the team. And then one of the newspapers over there yesterday wrote, J.J. Watt copies Tom Brady pulling pints in a pub for his team. And I was like, no, no, no, no. I did this back in March. Don't tell me that I'm copying.

I'm the first booze bag. Please. Please. I got it on the team. Tom got it on the team. I pulled some pints. Tom pulled some pints. He's got seven rings.

I got zero rings. All right? We know how this goes. Don't take the one thing I got away from me. Go ahead, AJ. How did the fans over there feel about the NFL? Can you feel it building? I know you posted some pictures.

I think you ran into some Texans fans as soon as you got there. Like, what's the overall view of American NFL football? And even, like, do they watch college football at all? Yeah, so it's pretty fascinating. So I've been going over there for, like, you know, 10, 11 years, and it has definitely grown massively over the last decade. They used to not know much at all. They used to cheer specifically for kicks.

I mean, as I know Pat knows, they loved that part of the game, but they didn't really know what was going on beyond that. Now every single person over there has a favorite team. They want to ask questions about their favorite team or about their fantasy team. They love that. And now they're actually getting into college football I was talking to some people I think Sky Sports over there BBC just got the rights to college football so they're going to start having more and more but they love the atmosphere because of that you guys know how it is the atmosphere of college football is actually a little bit more similar to the Premier League

with the chants and the cheers and some of those things. So they really do enjoy it. Yeah, the death rats and everything like that. Yeah, I think they got college game day over there. Yeah. I think just as of late within the last two weeks, it's got picked up by Sky Sports. I'm like, hell yeah, that's great news. That'd be a great fan base to fall in love with college football.

And let's wrap up this conversation about Burnley. Are you firing the coach immediately? I mean, Gumby knew what was going to happen in the game before it happened. And he even knew how he was going to respond. Gumby, you knew exactly what this guy was going to do. We got a shot this week, though. Who? This is must win.

You've been saying that for 10 weeks. Hey, this is must win, JJ. We have to win on Saturday. Against who? Sheffield. Oh, it's a tough bomb. I mean, there is no doubt that this is a large game. I mean, we're both in the relegation zone at the moment.

Luton Town keeps getting points too, JJ. Yeah, they're parking it after they have a 1-0 lead. 86 minutes in. They're going to cope remotely. Yeah, why not? I want 86 minutes in. Let Gump cope remotely. Yeah, why not? I want company out. I want Gump in tomorrow. Me too. We want company.

Pull a Tepper. Boom. Still a lot of season left, JJ. He ain't going. He ain't going. I'll tell you that right now. Oh, I mean, are you going to be Tepper or not? Tepper just lets his fans know,

I'm not happy about what's happening either. What a wild move that was. Just a lot of interesting things came out of that yesterday. Well, he believes in Bryce Young. He believes in Bryce Young. Sure he does. It really feels like it. If I'm Bryce, I'd definitely get that vibe.

So let's talk about the guy that he did agree to a deal to potentially get, which is C.J. Stroud down there in Houston. You were doing press conferences from the Houston Texans podium. D'Amico Ryan's head coach was like, we're welcoming J.J. back in any capacity that he wants. Player, coach, consultant, strength coach, PR guy, social media guy, maybe uniform collector, whatever the case is. We will have J.J. Watt back there.

They lose a tough one to Jacksonville, obviously. But what did you learn while you're in that Houston Texans building? And how was it to be down there for about a week or so? It was great, man. I loved it. I absolutely loved being back there. I mean, it just feels like, you know, home. I was there for 10 years.

Obviously, all my favorite restaurants, all the people, all my friends and everything. It's great to spend time there. And D'Amico has that place on the right track for sure. And it felt really cool to have a game of true meaning and importance back in NRG Stadium at this time of the year. You know, playing for first place against the Jaguars in the division, really, really big game. And you could tell the vibe is starting to come back. It's been a tough couple of years down there in Houston. They haven't really had these meaningful consequential games. It was a tight one. It was a very, very tight one.

I think on both sides, the refs in this game were not great. Obviously, we've had some conversations throughout the year about refs. I think there were some questionable calls. I think Tank caught it. I think there was a catch that Tank definitely got his feet down. And I also think people want to get on Amendola, the kicker off the street coming in for the game-winning kick. This guy's making a 58-yard attempt. This is

as good as he could possibly hit this ball. You can't be mad at him. Dead center, 58 yards. How mad can you be at this guy? You can't. Amendola, this is the most angry I think he probably could possibly get. He has a massive leg, known for having a huge leg. Just every once in a while, whenever you have a strong leg,

you're not going to necessarily know exactly where it's headed, especially with long balls. So whenever he saw that thing flying straight, there is never a thought in his head that it was going to be short. I mean, he has a huge leg and uh that had to be the most devastating one the like uh from putt putt pretty much hitting off the crossbar coming back center heartbreaking so you think you think you should have made that uh him yeah you think you should have made it if you wanted to be a guy yeah i

think you make that you know what i mean like well yeah yeah but made it if you wanted to be a guy yeah i think you make that you know what i mean like well yeah yeah but like i mean you got to be realistic about the situation he signed with the team two weeks ago which means he was on the street so it means like realistically there was a reason for that yeah but he's working every day he's working with nick novak like every i see this dude working every like this is his full-time job getting back into being a kicker has a very strong leg has the ability to make kicks so in my eyes as somebody that has watched him from afar don't know him personally super handsome super jocked by the way nice like super always a tight haircut he was with

us in arizona for a little bit last year he is he has a tight haircut and he is jacked you're right super jocked like that all i think he has all the ability to make it so like in my eyes while i'm watching i'm like here we go bud you make this you get like yeah opportunity like this is like for for real because you look at like jake elliott with that 59 yarder to send that thing to overtime in the middle yeah it's like jake's a guy so like he's gonna make that kick which is an absurd kick yeah so yeah i thought he was gonna make it i thought that he was gonna make it this one i did not think was going in no and then i then I remembered him. I agree. Yeah. Yeah.

I didn't think so. No, everything about this situation did not look like it was going to be a recipe for a successful kick. And this is how you become a legend in Philly. You just need to make it happen in the Kelly Greens on a stormy night to win a big game. Now you're a legend.

So I thought Amendola could have made it. I was just personally pulling for him to make it, if makes sense like if you oh yeah so was i but i'm just saying i didn't think he was going to make it like i mean i'm sorry like you signed a guy off the street two weeks ago and you got a 58 yard game winner like i'm not overly confident in that okay i understand he put it dead center hit the crossbar so 58 yards because I think like I now this is a great conversation to have with you because you can speak to it oh people like what distance should a guy like should we be like oh you should make this like for me if if it's not our full-time kicker and if it's not a guy that

we've had all year long and we're truly confident in anything over 45 yards i'm like 45 all right this is a bit this is 50 50 that's hilarious i like those expectations let's keep those expectations as low as that for me it's like 55 and in gotta make it if you're an nfl guy that's how i view it and if there's guys coming up short from like 51 we've seen them. Teams should agree to not allow them in the NFL. Yeah, those guys here are not allowed in. This is the men's league. You've got to at least be able to make it to the uprights from here. That is something.

But for me, I think kickers have gotten better I think inside 55. Let's talk about the atmosphere though. Maybe and maybe the Texans fans might take a little bit of blame here. Maybe if that place was sold out, a little bit more energy. And then he's able to make that thing about an inch further, which then bounces through as opposed to bouncing back.

That's an embarrassment. I didn't know that was happening down there. Brand-new quarterback who's electrifying and saying everything awesome. Brand-new head coach who's a legend down there. Team's playing good. They can't fill up the barn, JJ? Is that real? I didn't know that was – They're coming around. They're coming around. They can't fill up the barn, JJ? Is that real? They're coming around.

They're coming around. They've had a very rough couple years. They supported the team through some tough times. The tough times lasted for a little while. They're starting to come back around. CJ's asked the crowd to show up. I've now asked the crowd to show up.

I think they're coming around. I think they're starting to understand what they have. Like I said, I think it was a week or so ago, you have all the things that you could possibly want. You have the hometown legend as a coach. You have the young rookie quarterback and MVP conversations. You can't really ask for much more. Go out there and support these guys and give them your backing.

Yeah, because I've gone on the record numerous times, like Houston, Lottest, best place we played every single year. So in my mind, it's like great fan base, great fan base, great fan base, always will be, always is. And then they start sending those photos out, and it's like, wait a minute, that top tier is like, they're tarping it like it's old school Jacksonville. No, no. Yeah, a lot of seats, a lot of seats up there. Red. No, no. A lot of seats.

A lot of seats up there. Red jersey's on too. Show me a picture. Show me a picture. I don't, no. No, this is, don't speak on Houston like this. You're lying. I'm just telling you what Houston's doing to Houston.

Let me see it. Let me see it. Connor, somebody get a picture. He's lying. They took a photo. I saw full sections of seats. Nope. Yeah.

Messed up. Nope. It might have been before the game started then. Maybe somebody was painting a narrative. But the photos I saw was like, the next step is let's put a Texans tarp right over top of that. No. So that we can say we sold this out. You are.

I'm telling you. No, you're lying. JJ, it can't happen. That's what I'm saying though it's a great fan base that's like in my mind it's like one of the best in the entire nfl yeah and i start seeing those photos and i'm like what excuse me that is not how this whole thing is supposed to go and i got to see the photos you saw where was this on on the internet oh boy this is bad coming in coming in you might have been pouring beers

in England whenever this thing was going around. Let me see it. I gotta see this. It's bad. We're sending it in. It's not just the upper bowl, JJ. Let me just say there's a few in the middle. When is it from?

Sunday. Yeah, I got it. Zoom in. Zoom in up there. Look at all that red Where is it from? When is it from? Sunday. Is it from pregame or is it from? Division. Yeah, I got it, obviously. Zoom in. Zoom in up there. Look at all that red there in the third section. Those are all seats. Yeah, not jerseys.

A lot of empty seats. A lot of empty seats. You know what the next step is, JJ? Come on, let's revisit my conversation. I mean, that's nowhere near tarping. Can we put it up over here, please? Should be. JJ, let me talk to you about business.

It's like a TV timeout. What part of the game are we here? Is this pregame? First quarter. Anyways, JJ, you see, business-wise, I don't want to, like, because you own a soccer team and everything like that, but you see all these seats here that aren't sold? You could probably put those all together and probably like this

entire park could just get guess what tarped off yeah yeah now what do you have well you have a sold-out stadium but you have i don't know what five six sections worth of emptiness in this entire thing this gross jj this is disgusting this is if these are right i agree it's not a good look you take all these seats, you could probably tarp off, what, this whole area. At least. Yeah, that side of the stadium. And then you could just have a sellout. You'd still be able to sell out, bro.

Yeah. JJ, you know what I mean? And then you're not even waiting. What are the Colts looking like? What are the Colts looking like? Sold out, top to bottom, every week. How you doing? Even whenever we sucked, sold out.

One year, whenever Peyton Manning wasn't our quarterback, and we went 2-14, obviously, with Curtis Painter. What? Dane Orlovsky. What? Kerry Collins. What? You killed Kerry.

You killed him. I liked playing against those guys. I enjoyed them much more than luck. I would rather play against those guys. I enjoyed them. I enjoyed them much more than luck. I would rather play against those guys than luck. Anyways, we had the winningest decade in NFL history. Peyton Manning had 10 wins every single year. How you doing? We were about eight games into that 2-14 year with no Peyton Manning.

Obviously, we all found that out right before the season started. They were showing up with bags over their head. They were showing up, selling out the stadium, but there was like paper bags over there and it's like you go to cleveland yeah will you we had no we had a quarterback that was the whole thing that we didn't even know was like so indy will show up they're not always going to be loud or happy no but indy will show up there houston that is can we put that back no no i think we're good what's next on the. What's next on the agenda? Look at that. What's next on the agenda? That's a full.

So many seats. That's a full three rows right there. Can't happen. What happened? What's going on? I don't. I don't. Yeah, that's.

That's. That is frustrating. There's a lot of blue seats down there, too. Oh, I didn't even see the high price ones. I didn't even see those ones. You had that. We might be tarping off this whole. Whole side.

Yeah, yeah. Because look at that. There ain be tarping off this whole. Whole side, yeah, yeah. Because look at this. There ain't even a soul up here. And this is just one quadrant. Oh, what's the other side look like? Oh, no. We might be able to tarp the whole. Is that my bobblehead up there on the top right?

Am I? I mean, there are seats available. Yeah, that is you up here, buddy. And if you, I don't want to continue to bag on the Houston Texans, but this one didn't come broken. Remember, this one had no, you remember, it had no bottom. They all did. That's why we had to put you up here.

Oh, no. That's why I had to put you up here. I'm looking now, too. The tickets on SeatGeek are so not expensive to go to a Texans game right now. A lot of green dots. Hey, JJ, why don't you buy Texans fans some tickets? Yeah. And give them away.

I don't know, what, 30,000 of them? Yeah, for 20 bucks. Maybe we can fill this place up. Yeah. I remember when the Pacers were at the beginning of making their run with the group that was there whenever I was there. George and Hibbert. George, Paul, George Hill, Paul George.

Yeah. Roy Hibbert, Lance Stevenson. Oh. That crew right there. I mean, they were awesome to watch. They make the playoffs, and the first round of the playoffs, couldn't sell the place out. So I actually bought 5,000 tickets up in the upper bowl,

and they gave me a great deal. I'm like, we'll give them like for five bucks or something like that. Gave away 5,000 tickets to people, filled the place up. Let's go. Right? And then people got to experience it. They're like, oh, our team's good. And they're all the way back.

You could do that. You could do that. You filled the place up with 5,000 tickets? 5,000 people. Upper bowl. Upper bowl was not sold. It was not sold out for a playoff game for the Pacers. So I bought the 5,000 tickets that weren't sold out at the Bowl,

handed them out to people. They had to make a free throw or something to get a ticket. It was like a full thing. People get in there. They experience what the Pacers were. All of a sudden, we're back. You can do that for the Texans. Let's go.

25,000. You individually handed out 5,000 tickets to people? I was there, yeah. Yeah, it was a long day. How did that go? That's a lot of people. Yeah, at the beginning, the idea was they're going to have to earn it. And then, no, you just, yeah. Oh, you're here.

Here you go. So they weren't going to show up to the game anyway. And then you were like, I'm going to make it even harder. Let me make them earn the tickets to show up to the game they already don't want to go to. All they had to do was make a free throw. Easy. You know, it's Indiana.

Everybody's born with a basketball in their hand. You know what I mean? Hoosiers. Exactly. But too many people were missing shots, so we just started. We had some homeless people in there, obviously, for the night. They got some. Hey, it's warm in there.

Anyways, you can do that, JJ, for the Texans. Yeah. Don't you? Don't, you can do that, JJ, for the Texans. Yeah. Don't you? Don't you want to do that? Sure. Boom. That's a hero. Boom.

This guy's a hero. Nice guy. All right, get a hold of the people at the Houston Texans. You know them. JJ will buy all of these seats so we don't have to tarp them off and pay them out there. What is it? Third largest? Fourth largest?

Third now, I think. What is Houston? Fourth largest city? Fifth? What is it? I think it's dropping down to number three now. Or going up to number three. I think we're popping up.

Passing Chicago. Big, big city, yeah. Just keeps getting, we just kind of keep getting wider and wider. Yeah, and the people don't want to drive to the stadium anymore. No, they don't. That's what they're saying. Traffic is terrible in Houston. What's next? What do you guys want to talk about next?

AJ, how you doing, bud? AJ's back. AJ's back. AJ's service dropped off their throttle on him. I think it's because he was talking the way he was talking about those primates earlier in the meet and everything. AJ, have you seen this photo? I know you weren't on it. Did you see what's going on in Houston right now? I didn't get a reaction from the game.

How was the game? I'd love to hear the reaction from the game. How was the game you're talking about? The game. Oh. I thought you guys called it the game. Is that not the game anymore? Yeah, but the way it is, it's the game.

I'm starting to lose a little luster. The game. What do you mean it's losing luster? It's the game. I'm starting to lose a little luster. It's the game. What do you mean it's losing luster? It's the game. Three straight losses. You know, like Triple H at one point was the game. Triple H. This is the game.

Ohio State, Michigan. Three straight losses. Ohio State won eight straight. What are you talking about? Is Ryan Day on the hot seat? Why are you stirring this? Where's Jimmy Franklin? Where's James Franklin at? AQ, why are you swinging your legs like a Jimmy Franklin? Where's James Franklin at?

AQ, why are you swinging your legs like a six-year-old? They can't reach the floor. Can't reach the floor. This is crap. You look like a five-year-old at a dinner table at Applebee's. There it is. We can get you a little. Yeah, a little. If you need it.

Wow. Did you two go on a walk? This week? Not this week. He was over in Burnley since Sunday. He's still in Burnley? No, he was in Houston. I don't know.

Is he back yet? Tomorrow. Best walk? No, I was in Houston, Burnley, Houston. I got in Arizona yesterday. I got to go to Vegas right after today. I'll be back in Arizona tomorrow, and then I got to go to New York this weekend. What are you doing in Vegas? You playing blackjack all night? No, I got to go to Vegas right after today. I'll be back in Arizona tomorrow, and then I got to go to New York this weekend.

What are you doing in Vegas? You playing blackjack all night? No, I got to do – I'm working on something. Whoa. What's that? It's a show I'm working on. A show. Whoa. Circus away? Dude, perfect. Yeah, I'm working on. Whoa! A show! Wow! Whoa! Yeah.

Circus away? Dude, perfect. Yeah. I'm going to fly through the air, swing my legs like AQ and land. Yes. That would be amazing if you did that. What do you, a show? You're like creating a show? Yeah.

I literally have no idea what I can say about it or not. So I don't. You can say whatever you want. You're J.J. Walk. Yeah, I know. Great pub. Great pub. Come on.

Is this show that's already been filmed or is it a pitch? No, it's a show I'm developing. You guys bringing Tag back? We got an idea. No. I'm very curious about kind of what we were talking about at the beginning of this show. High performers in all different areas of life and, um, figuring out exactly what it takes to be great in different fields and different areas.

And I'm, I've always been very, very curious about that. So, um, I mean, it's a, the working title that we're going with right now is what it takes. And I just, I want to see like different people, what it takes to be the best at something or to be at the highest tier of something. And so, um, I'm going tonight to go, to go see somebody and to watch what they do. Got it. Okay.

So like, I love, I love greats as well. I like, I watch documentary on people that are great. I like to learn what makes greats great. It sounds like a show that is going to be scratching me right where I itch. So you're going to go spend a day with Chris Angel, kind of see what he does. And then you're just going to release it. But,

but, but yeah, no, it'll be cool. We're going to, I'm going to, I want to find out like all the little things like the people's routines and their two day cold tub,

do they sauna, what do they eat? How do they prepare for their, their certain thing? And it's all different. And then I'm going to talk to some experts and see like you know how did they in this category how does this relate to that so i'm fascinated by it all and i i have all my ideas on what makes what made me what i was and other people like there's janice eats candy all the time it's crazy to me like janice is a big

it's huge that he loves candy he loves the candy candy before games. And like, if I did that, I would be 400 pounds and I would suck ass, you know? So I'd love to know like how that works. And so I'm going to talk to me, like, I'd love to talk to a nutritionist and be like, how come he can do that? And I can't, I had a teammate, Jonathan Joseph, who only ate hamburgers. That's all he would ever eat was hamburgers. Again, if I did that, that wouldn't work. So I just really want to learn about all that stuff and figure out what makes people great musicians and entertainers and people who have done halftime shows for the Super Bowl. How do you prepare for that?

Justin Timberlake. Any Formula One drivers? So how many people are you talking about tomorrow? No, you want it. This is just one. This is our first. It's tonight. I'm literally right here. I'm flying out. It's Carrot Top, Criss Angel. Copper is just one. This is our first. It's tonight. I'm literally right here.

I'm flying out. It's Carrot Top, Chris Angel. Copperfield. Max Verstappen. Copperfield. Verstappen's in Abu Dhabi. Copperfield's buddy. Stoner.

It could be Stoner, I guess. Michael Griffin. First ever captain. Bob Spillane. Maybe Bono. You could get it. I gave the nugget. Dana White.

It's Adele. Yeah, it could be Dana Roberts or a UFC fighter. Maybe Adele. Holy hell. Can you imagine if it's Adele? Yeah, I'd love to hear what you'd find out. The Condor? Wayne Newton.

Ooh, that'd be a good one. What about Penn and Teller? They've been doing it a long time. They're out there. Maybe Bunny Ranch. You can go to the ranch, see what makes them great. Nailed it. Nailed it.

Experiment Rhino, for sure. Oh, that's where you're at. All right, okay. I think, who's the ex-WCW wrestler that is... Bill Ding. Oh, you're talking about Disco Inferno. Disco Inferno on security, I think. It's spiraled.

What's that? It's spiraled. No, we're trying to find out what it takes. Are you spelling it? You're saying you're bigger than Disco Inferno, dude? Yeah, you're not. Are you saying it's what it takes? Like, what?

No, that was proposed, and I said no. I don't like that. Are you going to pronounce it then? What it takes, at least, so we can make a little professionalism out of this? Has the network already bought this? No. Dibs. Oh, we would like to buy it.

What are you doing? Thunder from Down Under, maybe. We've got three hours in the office. Maybe. I mean, those boys really. Oh, yeah. I don't know. Some fake accents, I think.

I don't know if all of them are from Australia. Oh, maybe a DJ. Maybe. What if all of them are from Australia. What? Are you doing Marshmallow? They're not all from Australia? I don't know. Maybe it is Steve Aoki or DJ Marshmallow. Mark Davis? Yes. I'll watch that.

We'll make a pitch to buy it. Yeah. Give Mark Davis 20 M&Ms. We want a full presentation on why we think it'll be successful, too. I'm not pitching you. You're pitching me. We're going to try to buy it. Oh, well, I don't know what we're shaking on. Shake on it.

How do we watch it? Is it video and audio? No, it is. Nothing has been. We're filming the pilot right now, and then we go out and you sell it. Oh, is that how it works? Who's filming it for you? I don't understand.

NFL Films. Oh, really? Oh, is that right? And Skydams. Good luck. Oh, this might be on HBO Max. Could be. This could be on Mox out there.

Paramount Plus, maybe? Skydams? What about MGM Plus? MGM Plus? There's a lot of suitors for amazon probably spend some money tv oh maybe apple trying to get into sports but i'm fubo deal chris angel's big on the internet maybe some sort of social platform will try to buy this up or maybe chris angel just puts it on a network magically without even getting a deal just boom

don't let him take your lower half to each don't or up. Don't let him take your lower half, Teej. Or, Teej, don't let him take your lower half. Let's move along. Speaking of. We have to. His coach has said he's the greatest player ever. We have to. I'm going to start doing something like, that's your F-bomb.

I used to drop F-bombs. I've stopped, by the way. Maybe. That's your third Teej since I've been on this show. That's, well. That's all right. Hey, not a big deal. You this show. That's all right. Hey, not a bad idea. There's worse people.

Do a shop for five people or ten people for 500 bucks for AJ. Good idea. That's why. You'll see. You'll see it's a great transition into what we're going next. Just to let you know. Oh! That was close.

Go ahead, Ty. Good work, AJ. Yeah, JJ, speaking of Teej, we were talking about him before you got on. That graphic came up because everyone's been talking about how dominant Miles Garrett's been this year and that he's the runaway defensive player of the year. And then when you put him next to TJ, TJ's having just as good, if not a better year than Miles Garrett is.

And I kind of thought maybe it's because when you have a generational talent like TJ, he's just expected to perform like that year in, year out. So when he doesn't kind of have stats like that, people are saying, oh, hey, TJ's losing a step or he's not exactly the same guy he was. Why exactly do you think he doesn't necessarily get the recognition? I mean, he obviously everyone knows how good he is but i still feel like people kind of sleep on him a little bit and that's not just me saying that because he's your brother but why do you think um he isn't kind of respected in

the same way i mean we're seeing his numbers right there he's having an unbelievable year but he does this year in year out yeah i think it's because that's the level of dominance that he has created. He's literally set the NFL sack record. He has the NFL sack record with Strahan. So his normal year is anybody else's most dominant year of their entire career. So that's when you're at a level where you know you're judged on a different standard which is that's a compliment that's a sign of respect um but i i i encourage people not to forget they i it's like i said earlier with pat

mahomes like don't get bored with greatness like don't get bored watching somebody do something spectacular doing something that's incredible same with lebron over all these years like Like, don't get bored with greatness. Like, don't get bored watching somebody do something spectacular, doing something that's incredible. Same with LeBron over all these years. Like, don't get complacent with the fact that we're fortunate enough to watch these guys play at such a high level. And with TJ, people can tell me I'm biased all I want because he's my brother, but the reality is just put up the numbers.

Just look at what he's accomplishing and what he's doing. And then every now and then you get a freebie like this. I texted him right after this and said, those are my favorite sacks of all time. They don't ask how you get them. They just ask how many. And number 89, I'm not sure what your job was on that play, but I have a feeling it might have been to block number 90.

At least chip him. At least get some hands on him. But I do appreciate that maybe a business decision was made. Nope, new one coming. This guy's me in here. Let me get out of here. But T.J. Watt ends up with two sacks against the Bengals and he's continuing to maybe

go on a path to break his own record for most sacks in the same year. There's been a couple games where obviously, geez, what a psychic. Beat the double team. Like, this is what 89 was supposed to do on that other play. Block him, then pass him up, and then TJ beats him. Pass him off to the tackle, TJ beats him.

Force fumble. Like, people want to say, oh, he had a free sack. Well, yeah, but this one, he was double teamed, and he gets a sack. So don't give me this, like, he doesn't get held, he doesn't get double teamed. Yeah, he gets it all. He literally gets chipped all game long. He literally gets double teamed all game long. And then every now and then, you get a free bean.

That's the football justice God's given you. A little love. And Michael Tomlin came out and said he's the best player on planet Earth so I don't want to hear it. I'm sick of it. We'll move on. We're thankful for TJ. TJ and Tomlin have been a great tag team on the defensive side of the ball. I hope the world continues to appreciate what

TJ's doing. And if he breaks that record it's expensive. Oh, yeah. What is that, a $500,000 donation? I believe so. Why do I do that? Why do I just do that? You know what I mean? I just say stuff.

It just comes out. And then we've got to live with it forever, all of us. I've got to live with it all the time. I've been with me for 36 years. People hate me. You should see what I feel like. It is too much all the time. He's on his way.

He's on his way to do this. Why do people hate you that makes no sense that's so dumb shut up jj okay like guy gives money to charity guy gives money away to people like kick kicks on saturdays well the guy's got all his friends on a television show living great takes care of people entertain entertains people. It's all fun. We're having a great time. What's the problem, people? What's the problem?

Well, I think it's I'm a doofus mostly, if I had to guess, just from what I've dealt with for most of my life. And also I say things, you know, that like in-house voices, inside voices are supposed to be said. I think I'm kind of known to do that every once in a while. I appreciate all your- What's the worst thing?

What's the worst thing you think you've said in the last year? Like, what's the thing that people would be like, that's why I hate that guy? What do you think that is? Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. Because the ratings thing that we saw, if you remember,

those first month, that first month we were on ESPN, I guess just the hello at the beginning was really the thing that got everybody. I'm out. I do not want to be a part of this. That guy says hello in a way that I don't enjoy. Yeah, that's what I think.

But I appreciate all your kind words. Let's move on. You said some kind things about another team of yours, which is why you're a legend. Yeah, JJ, a long, long time ago when Energy Stadium was selling out every Sunday. It used to be a good fan base. A long time ago. Great. Long, long ago, in a galaxy

far, far away, people used to go to Texans games. And when they would go... You want to talk about your team? Hey, just shut up, okay? I'm asking the question to you, brother. You don't ask me the questions, okay? Chach. Spit it out, then. Spit it out.

I'm getting there. I'm getting there. I'm giving you a stop. AQ's got to catch a flight back to Arizona. Last thing I see, go on a walk. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I bet you're really looking forward to it. But when you were playing, you had a couple studs,

one of them nominated for the Hall of Fame, Andre Johnson. Should he be first ballot? Should he be in right away? It feels like he is one of those guys that everybody universally around the NFL just had a ton of respect for. Yes, Andre Johnson should be in the Hall of Fame. I will say that until

he gets in the Hall of Fame, he deserves to be there. He's an incredible player. What he did for this franchise, especially through very, very difficult years early on in the beginning, he was not in an ideal situation by any stretch of the imagination, and all he did was go out there and put up numbers and put up success every single year. Andre Johnson definitely deserves to be in the Hall of Fame, and I believe it's either yesterday or today is the anniversary of one of the most iconic photos in Houston, Texas history,

where he is just waylaying Cortland Finnegan. And if you know anything about Andre Johnson, if you've ever met him, if you know him at all, this is literally the furthest thing from his personality whatsoever. So this was before I got there. But if I ever saw Andre do this while I was playing, I would have run through 10 walls to do whatever it took to win that game for the rest of my life because to see Andre get to this level is iconic.

Yeah. We got a chance to be teammates with Andre whenever he came to the Colts there for a year or two. He was awesome. Just one of the coolest dudes of all time. Was very nice to everybody. I think the only time we gave him the ball was whenever we played against Houston. He went for two tuds, like 160 yards and everything like that i think he's back

in the houston texans organization whenever he was on the field though all odds were on andre johnson yeah great once like you said great teammate and i met south florida legend so i'm big fan of his obviously been a hurricane fan and i one of the first it's funny seeing that fight because one of the first times i actually met Andre was actually like a nightclub, and I was with some people that kind of pulled me to say, hey, bro, you don't need to be doing this. You need to chill. Don't be hanging out with them.

So just always kind of like that cool OG Big Dre. But an unbelievable first ballot Hall of Fame talent for sure on the field, hands down, especially you look at his quarterback situation throughout his career, along with the numbers he put up and the consistent dominant, like 1,500-yard seasons, like Andre was a dog. Absolute beast. Reggie's up too, I believe.

A couple AFC South wide receivers. Shane Leckler. Shane Leckler, Hall of Fame. Got to be in the Hall of Fame. Needs to go in. He just went to the Pro Bowl, I think, like 14 straight years or something like that. That's all. Just like, hey, what are you doing?

I don't know. I'm going to be the best in the league. Okay. Are you going to kick any offseason? off season not once okay you're a dog are you gonna have a half a tin in your mouth whenever you speak to everybody in warm-ups yes you are are you gonna have beer for the other kickers and punters every single game whenever they come play against yes you are shane leckler is a movie character an awesome one like the best one of all time in a perfect representation of punters i think think. I love that man.

I'm very appreciative of Shane Leckler. And if you put his numbers up, from my understanding, I mean, we did it like when I was playing with him. I'd look at his numbers all the time, pull them up, try to embarrass him. I believe he like blows Ray Guy's numbers out of the water. I believe he blows just about any punter ever's numbers out of the water. Shane is truly one of the greatest of all time. Yes, 1,000%. just about any punter ever's numbers out of the water. Like Shane is truly one of the greatest of all time. Yes.

1,000%. Now that Raiders team, they were drafting guys that ran four twos. Yeah. Hey, who do you, how fast do you come to our team? How fast can you play football? Who cares?

You're fast. You come to our team. So Shane, now he was the perfect partner for the situation. He could just murder the ball. And then they got four fours, four fives covering all across the board and they were a weapon over there are you asterisking are you asterisking shane leckler's career here absolutely not whoa because they if you put me in that position nowhere near as good as him i'm just saying he was put in a

position that was perfect yeah for shane leckler as well because he used to be able to punt it a country mile every single time and I can't reiterate this enough did not punt in the offseason didn't kick a ball we'll go back to training camp have to relearn how to punt and said I figure I got four weeks to figure it back out and I will do that instead he's going fishing he's going hunting he's living his life and then he comes back and he was a quarterback he's recruited a quarterback absolute stud put shane in there and also we'll see you they draft him and and jake oh sorry go ahead no nailed it no nope go ahead yeah that was a good shot that was a really good send that was really really good you're doing this good thing you're filming a pilot today yeah you're sending out hard outs. Look at you, JJ. You're an adult.

Absolute adult. Buying the tickets for the Texans. Hero. Sorry. Sorry. Don't be sorry. That was trash. I really ruined that ending.

No, because we're talking about Shane Lerner. You were crushing it. You were crushing it. I was going to tie it to him. Did they draft him and Jankowski in the same year? Yeah. What a class. And they live together.

Obviously, a lot of people know about Seabass because of things that have happened. I think Shane can hold his own in that particular department as well. From what we've been told, a couple stories both on our show in the early years from Shane Leckler and then from others that have told stories, they lived their lives.

Those two guys really lived their lives and did their thing. And he was still better than everybody. Great teammates. Love. Best friend played for them for a while. Another 4-2 guy. Was a gunner early in his career, but great, great teammates. Everybody loved him.

Like Shane, I talked about the beers for the other team. Anytime we played the Raiders or whenever he was with the Texans, which is obviously two times a year towards the end of his career there, we would have beer waiting for us afterwards. From who? From Shane Leckler. It was like, this guy fucking gets it. I remember that.

Yeah, we used to enjoy the hell out of that. They would come in like the garbage bags. You'd have the garbage bag filled with ice. Bingo. Hop on the bus. Some places would get you... I don't want to bury anybody. Some people...

Well, they get you. This is old school, though. Like this, I love this, because this stuff doesn't quite happen as much as it used to. This is the good old school stuff. Shane was my type of human. Like the beers he put in there were beers that I would drink. Nice.

Not all punters and kickers are the same types of humans. There's a lot of different humans that are kicking balls for a living professionally. I think we all understand that. So there's some places that give you these assortment of IPAs. Oh. And then you have to fake after. Poopy beers. When it's happening, you know what I mean?

Yeah. Not that IPAs are bad, but there's some punters and kickers that seem to be connected to every ipa beer in town and yuck i don't want to have a pink waffle beer right now you know i mean that was 16 alcohol right i don't want that right now but i appreciated the sentiment and i think shane was the one that kind of started that all for the kickers and punters so let's put his ass in there too and ray guy how, how's Shane feel about Ray? You talk good about him over there because of the Raiders organization? Yeah, yeah, he talked good about him.

I would say, because the argument I ever make is whenever I post about it on Twitter or something is people come back and they're like, Ray Guy is the only punter that deserves to be in. Ray Guy is the GOAT. And, like, if you literally put all of their numbers together, I don't even think it's close. I think that there is some...

The evolution of punting, I think Ray would not even probably... His numbers... Ray would have been athletic enough to be able to figure out what we know now, modern-wise, though. How to turn the ball over, what exercises do get stronger, techniques that have gotten much better. But, yeah, we're right now at a stage where punters would,

if they were to go back in time. Who's the best punter right now? So I got to see Jake Camarda this weekend, punter for Tampa Bay. He fucking murders balls. He hits them so far. Almost got one blocked, didn't turn over. So a turnover is when it goes like this. That's when a ball goes far. When it doesn't turn over, normally it kind of –

he didn't turn one over and it went 59 yards or something this weekend in the dome. So that's no wind aided at all. He's phenomenal. Tommy Townsend of Kansas City, he hits balls higher than anybody I've seen. Thomas Morstead is a jugs machine still. Wisnowski, he's been – Mitch Wisnowski for San Francisco. I guess he's a legend too.

They absolutely love him. Great flow. Stonehouse. Stonehouse murders footballs. You know, some of these guys that hit it real Francisco, I guess he's a legend too. They absolutely love him. Great flow. Stonehouse. Stonehouse murders footballs. You know, some of these guys that hit it real far, I often wonder, like, is it going to work? You know, like, it will work. It's like a roll of the dice, though, because all you need is to give up one, and all of a sudden it's like everybody gets real mad.

You know what I mean? Everybody starts turning on you. You know, like, this guy's out kicking his coverage. It's like, well, for the first 12 games, though, it was perfect. It was what we wanted. And then because 10 guys can't tackle a guy, all of a sudden it's on the punter. So it's like there's different strategies in the whole thing. But those guys, I think, are –

Who was the best coverage guy you had in your career on your coverage team? So, I mean, Cole Anderson was awesome. The Montana. Well, Joe LaFedge was a guy I had at Gunner. He was a dog out of Rutgers. Absolute dog. He was a beast. Hayward Bay, right?

Yeah, DHB. DHB. Didn't have to tackle anybody. He was the first guy that ran a 4-3 that I had covering me. That was awesome. That was a lot of fun. So that was a cool thing. He had to make a super humble decision, too, to go cover punts.

Because remember, he was first on draft pick to be wide receiver. Then he ends up at the Colts, and he becomes gunner in practice. And it's like, hey, if he's cool with this, are we allowed to have him just run down the field? So I think my net went up like, I don't know how many yards, a lot, as soon as he got in there. And I just punted it towards him. And it was a fair catch every single time.

It was the greatest. So fair. so aj did you ever play special teams i did and sorry i i my screen has been blank for the last 10 minutes i can hear you guys great i just can't see any of the show so i have no idea exactly what's going on but i can hear you but yes i was a four-year starter left wing and punt in college and i played a lot of punt in uh when i was in the league as well. I was there a few times when I think Devin Hester took a few back on us. No question. The guy, I was going to say, he's too good.

The best coverage guy that I had. What? Sergio Brown. And everything that's going on with him now is incredibly sad. I mean, incredibly, incredibly sad. He was awesome, too. Oh, yeah.

I don't know what happened. I have no idea what happened to him. Obviously, something devastating and terrible. We're seeing videos of him on the Internet that is not the human that we know. You're talking about like an energy human in the locker room, loved playing teams, loved being everywhere. Incredibly sad outcome.

But, yeah, those special teamers, real dogs out there. Hell, yeah. Andrew Jackson. Real dogs. Do you remember Andrew Jackson. Real dogs. Do you remember Andrew Jackson? Western Kentucky. He had a gold grill, both of them. Love that.

He had no idea that there was a football on the field. He had no clue. It did not matter. Devin Hester, Hall of Fame? Hall of Fame? Yeah. Hester, yes. That's the issue, though.

Hey, man. Like, the Hall of Fame, you're going to run it. No, you're not. Your first ballot. How you doing? Keep it moving. You're going to the front of the line. You deserve to be in that other tier that primetime talks about as well.

So, knowing that, I ask you this question. Every year I see these semifinalists of, like, Hall of Famers, and I get through it. I'm like, that guy, definitely Hall of. That guy, definitely Hall of. That guy, definitely Hall of Famer. Definitely, that guy, definitely Hall of Famer. But then there's like a logjam, I think, of guys from like 50 years ago, 40 years ago as well, and there's only a certain amount that go in.

That's an interesting little thing that happens with the Hall of Famer. Do you pay attention at all? Yeah. It is interesting because I look at the one, like I'm following the Andre one closely because I want Andre in, obviously. He's my teammate. I love the guy. I think he deserves to be in. And then you go through the arguments and you see all the people talking about like,

well, what about this guy? He has these stats or what about this guy? He has these from this year. And like you said, there's only a certain number of spots. So it does get very, very interesting. The, that one criteria that people kind of say is like, can you tell the history of the game without having, without saying this person's name or without that? Like, I do think there is something to be said for, like you said, Devin Hester.

Like, he is the greatest return man in the history of the game. Like, I do feel like he is a guy that at what he did, he is the best to have done that. And it's synonymous with that spot. Nobody else did it at that level, so I do think a guy like that deserves to be in. I feel like the receiver position and the quarterback position are two really, really tough ones, obviously.

I think receiver, like, these guys with their comparisons, I feel like the Reggie Wayne, the Marvin Harrison, some of those, like, Torrey Holt, some of those, they start to get so number comparative where it's not necessarily about, like, the full-blown impact on the game. And also, it's just necessarily about like the full blown impact on the game. And also it's just a tough position to make it in that man.

And then quarterbacks, obviously a different one. Like I feel like people were asking if Eli Manning's a hall of famer, like two Superbowl rings. Like, yeah. Yeah. Like I feel,

yeah. Duh. He's in. What do you mean? Yeah. Tom Coughlin. They're doing the same thing with him too. Cause the Super

Bowl rings, like other coaches are in who haven't won as many games or as many Super Bowls as Tom Coughlin, but they won't put him in. They need to just figure out how to get it right with the I don't want to say the... With the old heads? Yeah. They need to just figure out how to get it right. It's like, hey, you can add on.

It's Ohio real estate. I assume you can. I assume you can make that place bigger as the game continues to grow just make it a little you know because like if shane leckler how do you how do you feel about like the like like like the 10 or 20 years later type of situation because i do think there's guys that like but i also think it's it's super hard man because then I don't know I honestly don't know what the numbers yeah there is that part of me that's like well if you weren't in in the first five years after your career what makes it 20 years down the line why why is it now but then there is the other part of me like I grew up in

Wisconsin Jerry Kramer like I think Jerry Kramer's are being but but I also see people's point where they're like yeah but if you weren't good enough in the first five what changed now with that being said I think Jerry Graber's are being, but, but I also see people's point where they're like, yeah, but if you weren't good enough in the first five, what changed? Now, with that being said, I think I've been nominated, uh, two times now. Okay. So the first time I was nominated, I said, uh, put Shane Leckler in immediately upon my name being on the same list as him and a couple others. And it's like, if I was to be nominated for 20 years and I actually had a care of going in, you could see how every single year your family, your friends, and you would get upset about it,

which I think is what happens for some of these older guys is like, they get like really personally pissed off at the NFL and at everybody for not putting them in there. So whenever they finally go in, I get like super pumped for them. But then I'm like, can we maybe just not put their names on the list, though, so it's not like a public call-out that they're not in the Hall of Fame anymore? You know what I mean? After a certain amount of years, I wonder if that can kind of help. Well, that's what I said with Drew Pearson.

Before he went in, what, last year, he said it basically ruined his life because every time the doorbell would ring or he would hear a knock at the door, he was like, oh, that, is that someone like, am I finally getting in? And then it just, it never happened for so long. And eventually he did get in, but like it legitimately like ruined his life for like 15 years.

Yeah. It's wild. It's a wild thing. You know, and like you said, you said it, it is interesting that whoever is arguing on your behalf plays such a massive role as well.

Like that, that it shouldn't be that like you need some, a lobbyist on your behalf plays such a massive role as well like that that it shouldn't be that like you need some a lobbyist on your side to get you in like it's sad our guy couldn't get dwight freeman yeah yeah think about that you heard the name right there everybody in their head was like gold jacket that guy's a whole he's not he's not sir so it's like uh it's insane and if you put shane in as a punter then that's taking somebody else's spot, which is why when Ray Guy went in, it got so loud.

He's the first punter ever in there. He deserves to be in over wide receiver that did something like 30 years ago. It's like, oh. Then two years ago, I think it was the 50th Super Bowl or something where we did 20 guys. We just popped 20 guys into the Hall of Fame in one year.

We're like, yeah, go ahead. Open door. Feel free. Like it was, I was, what are you going to do? Have you already prepared and plan for your hall of fame party up there in Canton,

Ohio? I heard it's a big deal. You got to get a good tent. You got to have a good tent. You got to do the whole thing. I haven't prepared, but I don't know what I'm going to wear in 30 minutes to go to this thing. I got to go do.

Dress nice. It's a pilot. Dress nice. It's a pilot. You're going to look good. Yeah, I agree. I hope I look good. A full 99, maybe with shoulder pads, jersey, pants, helmet. All right, ladies and gentlemen, this is it for the Trenches Wednesday with Watt. JJ, this was a good one.

Talked about soccer. Oh, I loved it. Talked about tickets. Talked about TV shows. Orangans remember oh yeah macaques yeah this guy loves macaques love them spell it again spell it again there's no way that was the correct spelling m-a-c-a-c-q-u-e boom that's what i'm thinking pretty sure it is that's in my head that's's what I see. C-Q-U-E. That's C-Q. Does not feel like it can go together. I agree.

That's why as soon as it comes out of my mouth, I say, this guy did it. O-M-C-A-Q-U-E-S. Too many C's. Too many C's. Man, that thing would be sick to have as a pet. No, no, no, no, no, no. These ones. It's the, no. These ones. It's the wrong one.

These ones. You know that fuck around and find out thing? Yeah, bingo. Right there at the top. Boom. Macawk. That thing, you don't want to be in there at all. I don't know about the orangutans.

These things will rip your meat off. First thing. Yeah, speaking of, AJ Hawkins. AJ Hawkins. AJ, can you see us? I can see you now. You guys look great. Why are you so matter-of-fact about the orangutan straight to the meat, straight to the mouth?

First off, I'm talking more chimpanzees but all primates. All of them. Do not mess with them. Once their teeth develop and once they get those hormones in them, I told you, it's a matter of time before your meat's in your mouth. You say you know that to me. I don't know that. It's a real thing. Look it up.

Hey, look at my little friend. Oh, here we go. Yeah, that's the bad guy. You want to talk to him? Her? Whoever it is? Good lord. Yeah, please don't misgender. Can't have it. Son of a bitch. Exactly. Well, I can't tell right here, but that's what I'm saying. Good luck. I do. I very much

trust your opinion on primates i will say like for some reason you seem like you have researched this properly and i believe that you have researched this properly i don't know why uh i agree it does feel what made you get into the what made you go down a road where your google search led you to a primate's gonna rip your meat off and put it in his mouth well Well, I found this out years ago. The put it in your mouth part, I kind of came up with that one because I've always said, they said, why would they rip it off and put it in your mouth?

I said, because that's the most disrespectful they can kill you and they want your parents or your loved ones to find you dead with your meat in your mouth. So I added that part on. Okay. You came up with this? No, no, no. Listen, ripping the meat off is a real thing.

I don't know where they place it once they rip it off. I just said. Yeah, but you're saying matter of fact, you know that it's like you're the only one. I know you just pass this information on to 20 million people on ESPN. Now, everybody. I'm going to go. Yeah, you're welcome, guys. Yeah.

Show's getting big, guys. Get on board. No, I don't think so. I don't think so. You know know because the hello thing which we also talked about today we didn't all right let's get the hell out of here uh we gotta break down the college football playoffs you gotta go film a pilot episode of what it takes oh yeah where we find out what makes the greats great that's right what's the recipe

we'll do it what's that do a mcafee episode we'll do a mcafee episode yeah what makes pat mcafee great that's gonna be a nerd for me dog black shirts all right we appreciate you it's been a good wednesday you're not welcome in here to do one of those okay you're not welcome to do one of those that's fine i don't deserve chris angel carrot top mike phelps jj watt that's a great crew right yeah mark davis what's that bigger than them bigger than chris angel Chris Angel, Carrot Top, Mike Phelps, J.J. Watt. That's a great crew right there. Mark Davis. What's that? Bigger than them? Bigger than Chris Angel? Copperfield?

Poof. I gave the answer in this interview somewhere. Epstein? Oh. What? Is it? Why is he a great in your eyes, AJ? I didn't say he was a great.

I thought J.J. was a track of people down there. I mean, there's some weird stuff going on here. Let's get you out of here. What it takes with me. There's a lot going on. That's what I'm saying. A lot of people say, AJ is such a good boy. I'm like, you listening to what's coming out of his mouth?

I don't think so. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Waltz. Hey, JJ. Hey. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the General Bob Carpenter's Top Ten. General, good to see you. Obviously, Ohio State loses to Michigan. That rattled the college football playoff rankings.

I'm excited to see what it does to yours. Thank you for making time today. Let's go, General Bob Carpenter. Coach, the college football world is on fire, and we sit here heading into conference championship weekend. I'm going to give you my top ten, but I feel like there's probably eight teams that could be getting in here. Number one, we're going to start off with the 10th team in.

Penn State took care of Michigan State in a big way. 42-0. Take care of business. They're sitting there at 10-2. It's what they were last year, and they'll be sitting on a pretty nice bowl slate. That a baby. That matters.

You know, number 10 here. Can't play in a Big Ten championship, but we'll have a good bowl win to go into the offseason. Let's go. Another year. Top 10 finish. Fiesta Bowl. They feel good about life. Wow.

Okay. Let's extend Jimmy Franklin maybe, what, 10, 10, 15, 20, 20, 30? That's it. Keep it rolling. 10 and 2, baby. What do we think? We think we're going to crack in next year when there's no divisions in the Big Ten? Are we going to be able to get to the top two spots up there?

Well, listen, they can beat Iowa 31-0 and feel good about life. Who's that? Penn State. At home. Oh, that happened? That happened. Oh. At home.

What do you mean? Come to Kinnick next year, AQ, and we'll see what fucking happens. That's what I mean. He knows. I do know, actually. I actually lost there. But now you add Washington. Okay. UCLA. UCLA. What do know, actually. I actually lost there. But now you add Washington, UCLA.

What? What? USC. USC and Oregon. Oregon's a big one coming in there. That's a big one. Not that Washington isn't, no offense, but Oregon bringing in that Nike money. Oh, yeah.

You know what I mean? I think there's going to be a lot of similar type recruiting there. I think that is something big. Now, Washington's going to be able to recruit. Obviously Seattle's a beautiful place. USC, UCLA going to be able to do that thing. But the Oregon humans, the players, feel like a Big Ten potential recruiting battle. Excited for that.

Penn State's going to be okay. Yeah. Top ten finish in the generals. Okay. Love it. Who's number nine, general? You got to take it easy on aq over there pat i mean listen they're doing the best they can all right so give the happy value

boost them up all right yeah you are trying those are playing football give them metal uconn doing the same thing who's number nine all right number nine we got missouri mizzou sitting there did a heck of a job this year probably one of the most underrated stories you're going to find. Drinkowitz, probably my pick for Coach of the Year with what he was able to do. They smoked Arkansas 48-14. And because of that, we got a Bobby Petrino sighting back in northwest Arkansas now. So I know that's exciting for the college football world. Exciting for us.

We love the Whoopig Siwi folks. Hope Petrino handles his press conference costuming a little bit different than the last one he had over there in Arkansas. But we're pulling for him, and this Missouri story is a beautiful one. Schrader, we had him on the show, obviously for him to walk on one, did his thing. Kid from Missouri, kind of taking over over there.

Cooked quarterback rate and drink wits. You're right. What a turnaround. What a team. And remember, he ran right over the hype with his face, and he said, we're staying on business around here. Got a good little attitude, good little moxie. I like the Missouri team. Now, once again, that's another story. When you're down there in the SEC, teams like Penn State and the Big Ten,

you can kind of get lost there at 3, 4, 5. Are they able to make the jump? We shall see. Who's 8? All right, number 8. This is where we really start. It starts to get interesting, Pat, because all of these next teams, I think, can get in the CFP. Some control their own destiny.

Some need a little bit of help. But number eight, I have the Texas Longhorns. They beat up Texas Tech pretty good. They played a lot better last week after Quinn Ewers feels like he's knocking some of the rust off. You know, Arch Manning got a little sighting in the game. They might need a little bit of help, but I think the committee wants to try to get them in

if they can take care of Oklahoma State and the Big 12. And on the flip side, Oklahoma State would love to beat Oklahoma and then also beat Texas. Yeah. You know what I mean? They get a big win. They get into the Big 12 championship. And then if they send Texas to the SEC with an L in the Big 12 championship,

what a way for Gundy to kind of wrap up this season with that mullet. And on the flip side, Texas can take this Big 12 championship and say, peace, go over to Bannister, go right over to the SEC. Take the belt. That's not something that's great to happen. No, not at all. Oklahoma State's fighting for an entire conference. Yeah, need them for the Big 12. Texas has a win over Alabama,

but you got Alabama seemingly ranked higher than Texas. You and the committee are in a little bit of odds there. Who's at seven? It is because I've got Bama sitting there at seven. It's been tough because they've been playing some really good football, man, and they've really turned the corner. You look at how bad they were early in the season.

Double-digit loss to Texas at home. South Florida game muddling around. They benched Millrow. I understand Auburn's not great this year, but they find a way to get it done. Holy smokes. And one of the most captivating endings you're going to find. And Nick Saban, we never really give guys like him, Kirby Smart, Urban Meyer.

Those guys don't get coach of the year very often because it's always expected. But this might be Nick Saban's best coaching job he's put on in the last decade. Yeah, they were obviously ranked and appreciated because they're Alabama. Then they lose to Texas and everybody's like, all right, Bama has it down here. This is how it is. And all they've done is gone to work. We've been very lucky to kind of follow this year alongside Coach Saban and the development of Milrow. What type of defense was Auburn running there on that fourth and goal from 31? A lot of people had question marks on how that whole thing worked.

Pretty soft. Too soft. Yeah. Too soft. I mean, what a play. I mean, unbelievable play. You don't see that every Saturday. Rivalry game like the General Midget.

Iron Bowl. Don't care what the rankings are. Throw them out. Great job getting that done. I was watching that game thinking to myself, how'd this team lose to New Mexico State 31-20? No kidding. While they were playing against Alabama. I'm like, how are these dudes even on this field able to lose a game to New Mexico State 31-20. No kidding. While they were playing against Alabama. I'm like, how are these dudes even on this field

able to lose a game to New Mexico State? I guess that's just how football goes. You never know what's going to happen. Rivalry games bring out the best. And Alabama got a big-time win. People are holding that over their head, though. Yeah, they are. People are holding that over their head.

Of course. A team that almost lost to New Mexico State. It came down to a fourth and goal from the 31. Why does that team get anything? It's like, watch the whole thing. Please. Watch the whole thing. Please. Watch the whole thing. It's different.

What did happen here on the defensive side of the ball, AJ? What do you think is going on? Rush two? Spy? I mean, Hail Marys, I feel like you've got to get the quarterback off the spot and make him, like, you've got to force the throw. Like, watch a couple of the Hail Marys Aaron has. Like, if you don't force him and try to make him go to his right or left

and, like, make it at least difficult, I think it's tough. Well, and also, why do they have a spy? Is he going to run 31 yards? All three guys are basically spying him. Nobody was actually rushing him. I'd like to run a little stunt game inside and flush him out to his left. That's the ideal situation. And then he leases on a tick on a clock whenever he gets outside the pocket

because he doesn't have the protection. I'm sending six. He has to throw across his body. The other five't have the protection. I'm sending six. He has to throw across his body. The other five get 20 yards off. I'm sending six guys after. 31-yard play has to happen. Yeah. You know?

And they pull it off. Yep. Somehow Alabama pulls it off. Maybe they're a team of destiny. Could be. Maybe they're a team of destiny. Let's go to our top six here, General. All right.

Top six still control their own destiny. I've got Oregon sitting there at six. They're big favorites, by the way, in the Pac-12 championship. They disposed of Oregon State, did a nice job of that at home, 31-7. Bo Nix looked his typical fantastic self over 350 yards passing, another couple touchdowns. It's going to be interesting how that Heisman talk shakes out as well. But Oregon, I think they're a team that people want to see in the CFP,

given how explosive that offense has been. And then Dan Lanning has that defense playing really nice. They do. Their resume is going to be one that is going to be tough for people to stand on. Yep. If you go back and see who they beat this year, there's not a lot of massive. Now, obviously the Pac-12 was much better

than it has been in a long time. And it's a shame that this is the last year of the conference champions. It is a damn shame. But some of their other wins, not great, but the way they're playing football, strictly eye test-wise, it's like, hey, this Oregon team is maybe the buzzsaw in the entire country right now. Selection Sunday just a few days away

in the Pac-12 championship on Friday. Does University of Oregon win it, or does somebody in the top five win it in general? Who's five? Well, that's where I had to do it this week. It pained me to drop my Ohio State Buckeyes, losing 34. I know, it stings. It stings, man.

But you know what? The tape doesn't lie. The score doesn't lie. Michigan went out there and executed and played a good football game. And 19 million people watching doesn't lie either. I mean, it was a heck of a football game. You want to come out on the winning end, and unfortunately they didn't. You think they can still make it in the CFP?

That's why you're putting them at five, hoping? I think that there's a little bit of hope there. They need some things to happen. Maybe they turn that OSU scarlet and gray into a little orange for them for the Oklahoma State Cowboys and probably cheering on Louisville Cardinals as well. We'll see what happens. Okay, so if Louisville beats

Florida State, Oklahoma State beats Texas, Georgia beats Bayamaga, you need that. Washington beat Oregon or Oregon beat Washington? I think Oregon can beat Washington as long as it looks good.

If it's a tight game and there's that other stuff happening, you may see two Pac-12 teams, which ironically, Pac-12 couldn't get anyone in for years. They could have possibly two if it's maybe a three-point game. If Washington wins, I think they're in, Oregon's out. If Oregon wins and it's close, maybe both. But I think if Oregon wins by two scores or more, then I think that might eliminate Washington.

All right, let's roll to your top four. That's a heartbreaker seeing you put Ohio State outside. I know. That's a shame. I know. One bad Saturday. It crushed it, Pat. Believe me.

One bad Saturday. One bad Saturday. That's all it takes. I've got to be real with the folks, man. I've got to be real with the folks. I've got number four, the Florida State Seminoles. And we're talking about another tight one. They barely took care of Florida, poured it on at the end, but down 12-7 at half.

They're taking Ron Maker, feeling his way around a little bit. Florida didn't have much offense. And this team is going to be, you know, they're going to be the bane of the committee's existence because their results look good throughout the season. However, this is a different team without Jordan Travis, and they're going to have to put on a show against Louisville, who just lost to an average Kentucky team this year, to prove that they belong. I think the committee wants every reason to get Florida State out

because without Jordan Travis, I don't think they feel like they'll be able to compete, even though they probably deserve to be in there. Yeah, the Florida State conversation is going to be awesome. Oh, yeah. On Sunday. Don't let it happen. I cannot wait for it.

Because even with Jordan Travis as quarterback, there's people going, is the ACC anywhere near good enough to have a team that represents it? I don't care if they went undefeated and they showed up every single week and did what they had to do. They go into Florida, by the way. Oh, yeah. And beat Florida in Florida. And I know Florida is nowhere near what we remember Florida as

whenever Tim was doing his thing and everything like that. But it's still a huge win with a backup quarterback. And now all anybody's helped before I test-wise is just like, we need another team in there. Yeah. And Florida State's fans are loud. And they're going to be. And they're back in their eyes.

If they're to go undefeated, win an ACC championship and get held out, whoo! It'll be loud. Who's your top three, Bob? All right. Well, Coach, hang it on. Hang it tough. If it wasn't for Florida State's rough performance, I may have dropped them, but Washington sits

there at number three. It's tied 14-14 all at half in the Apple Cup. They're able to pull that thing out tight, and I know that's a rivalry game, and it's the at half in the Apple Cup. They're able to pull that thing out tight, and I know that's a rivalry game, and it's maybe the last one in the Pac-12, maybe the last one for a while. We'll see if they can get it squared away. But you get worried because at the

beginning of the season, they were scoring so much. Played a little tougher competition. Defense hasn't been quite as good. Offense has struggled some, and so I think the committee's looking at them like they might be a little vulnerable, and we'll see what happens Friday night in the Pac-12 championship against Oregon. Hell of a year by DeBorn Penix. Who do you got at number two and at one?

I'm excited to see who you place where. I put Georgia at number two. And they played Georgia Tech. It was kind of a little bit of a struggle. Georgia's been good. They've got some decent wins this year. Carson Beck was okay in the game. Not quite hitting 200 yards, throwing a pick, throwing a touchdown. I think Georgia's been really good. They've got some decent wins this year. Carson Beck was okay in the game, not quite

hitting 200 yards, throwing a pick, throwing a touchdown. I think Georgia's been really good, but you've got to put Michigan at number one. If you believe that Ohio State was sitting up there in the top three, they have the best win of anybody this season now. They did it. It was a home. It was a big rivalry game. It was in front of God and everyone. Sharon did a great job coaching. They've really played good football this year when everybody was kind of counting them out the last couple weeks. And so I've got to put Michigan at number one. And believe me, it pains me like nobody's business to put them up there,

but I've got to try to be true to what I believe. Yeah, we respect it. They beat your number one team. You move them up there. A lot of things can happen in the next few days. Excited for your top ten. We got any gimmicks today, General? I found out that Bruce Willis was dead in the sixth sense. And when I'm watching Jalen Milrow dance around and no pressure like you talked about, and he drops that 33-yard dime right back in the corner of the end zone,

I'm sitting there thinking, as defensive coaches are everywhere, as D-Butt just pointed out, as AJ's pointing out, get some pressure on the guy, but give Jalen Milrow credit. They practice it. Nick Saban is a situational football guy, and that's a situation you see once a decade and they executed on it for an ending like nobody's business. Well, they saw dead people out there

and we don't. Whenever we see you, we see a man that's alive. We appreciate the hell out of you, General. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Bobby Carpenter. Yay, Bobby! Let's go from college football rankings to a college football story that is awesome. This man has a big brain.

Big, big brain. So much so that he was given head coaching duty at the Duke Blue Devils football team. And what did he do? I don't know. Made him a national story. Made him relevant. And you get a chance to meet him, you can see why. He's incredibly football intelligent. He's incredibly football intelligent.

He's incredibly handsome. And if you see his head, you can tell he's a football guy. Used to play safety. Flew around whenever he was playing as an Ivy League player. He's a former defensive coordinator at numerous stops where his defenses just ate up like the hungry, hungry hippos. And now, the biggest story in college football, it was who will fill in the spot that was left when $76.8 million was paid to fire Jimbo Fisher and move on.

Ladies and gentlemen, it's this man, head coach of the Texas A&M Aggie football team, Mike Elko. Thanks, Pat. Appreciate you. Still got the hype man going in my corner. I appreciate that from you always. Well, to be clear, when I started hyping you up there, I didn't know if you were on the Zoom call or if we were connected or not.

So as I was – I was on. You're on. I was on. I was in the corner getting ready to come out into the ring. You had me going. Okay. Well, first of all, what I didn't say in there, and I think we would all like to – congratulations, man.

Here we go, coach. Congratulations. Appreciate you. Really exciting time for me, exciting time for my family. Obviously, this is a dream opportunity that we've been hoping for for a long time. And so, yeah, so excited to be here and be part of this thing. Okay, so you were there a few years ago, obviously, as defense coordinator. You leave to go be the head coach at Duke. What you do at Duke is phenomenal from a long time. And so, you know, so excited to be here and be part of this thing. Okay, so you were there a few years ago, obviously, as defense coordinator. You leave to go be the head coach at Duke.

What you do at Duke is phenomenal from a football standpoint. Game day was down there. We were down there. Your players loved you. Your team loved you. Now in the world that we're in right now, getting to a place like Texas A&M, we all just saw the $76.8 million buyout. It's like you're going to have an opportunity now to kind of, you know,

recruit and do things that maybe you weren't able to do at Duke no offense to Duke but like now you're getting an opportunity to really go right is that what's kind of drew you to Texas A&M and how do you feel now about what the next steps are to kind of get the team back on track yeah for sure I think obviously this is a place that is resourced and supported at a level that you can win it all right and as a coach that's what you want you want to you want to be supported by a fan base and resourced in a level that you can win it all, right? And as a coach, that's what you want. You want to be supported by a fan base and resourced in a way that you can go out there and you can win the whole thing. And we certainly can do that.

And then, you know, what's next? What's next is everything. You know, we've got to put a staff together. We've got to start building relationships with the current class that's committed. We've got to build relationships with the guys in this building. And we've got to go to work. And we've got to become what this program is capable of becoming. You know, it's certainly been well documented how much this place has to offer. We've got to make all of that a reality. Hell yeah. Go ahead, AJ.

Coach, where are you at in the process of building your staff? That's something that not as many casual fans, I think, talk about. You got to come in and find the right staff and who you want to hire, who you want there. How difficult is that, and how long do you think that'll take? Yeah, I mean, obviously it's critical, right? The people that back me and the people that support me and the pyramid that we form from the top down throughout this organization is ultimately what leads

to our successes and our failures. And so we're going to do it as fast as we can, but we're also going to make sure we do it the right way and that we get guys in here that can coach football, can relate to kids, can recruit and can do all the things that you need to do to build the program. We want to build.

Are you sitting in your office right now? Where are you? I am sitting right in my office. I like how we got nothing on it yet. Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.

Decorations will come next year. Oh, I respect it. We got to win a bunch of games. We got to get a bunch of recruits. We got to get some people in this building. There's an awful lot of things that are going to happen before we start decorating stuff. Okay. So I assume that there's going to be a lot of places that wanted your services for how good of a football coach you are. And for everything we learned about you this year. Now, we should have known about you before. We apologize. But learning about you, you seem to do everything right. Texas A&M, like, obviously they have all their resources to everything.

Is it a place you think that can go, or is it a place that you're going to have to win right now? Like, what are your expectations from the people you're talking to at Texas A&M, and what have others maybe told you about potentially taking this job versus maybe another place that you could have went to? Yeah, no, I think this one was a little bit unique for me because I know this place hands down, right? And I spent four years here and I've said this to a bunch of recruits. I know every reason why we should win a national championship here. And I kind of know some of the reasons why we

haven't. and I'm the guy that can come in here in my opinion and bridge this gap the way we need to and um the reason why I'm here is you know one because of how special this place was to me and my family for the four years that I was here last time and the two because I think we can do it all we can win it all and we could do it the right way and and those two things for anybody who knows me or anybody who's ever talked to me, that's all I've ever wanted. I wanted a place where I could win it all the right way. And that's what I think we can do here at Texas A&M.

That's phenomenal. Their fan base is always there. Always there. Every video I've seen, they are always there. Any game, any time, any opponent, whenever, wherever, we're going to be 103,000 strong in Kyle Field. Coach, these videos have been hitting the internet, though, the night before games. They're called like yell practice or something. Something like that, yeah.

You need to – I mean, I assume it's a massive tradition, but those need not get let out publicly. Can't have it. You know, those need to stay in-house. Those need to stay in-house, Coach. You know what I mean? Yeah, well, here's the thing you've got to realize, though, Pat, and I tell this to people all the time.

I've told them this about Texas A&M, right? People outside of it maybe don't understand it, but the spirit of this place is unique. And you tell me where else you can get 50,000 fans in a stadium 24 hours before kickoff. Okay. All right. Hey, listen, maybe keep the Yale press.

That's what's true. All right. I'm just saying. Hey, Darius. I'm just saying. There's not a lot of programs that can put that many people in a stadium that far before kickoff. People loyal down there.

Darius has a question for you. I'm sending a couple of them out to Houston to help my guys out. Something a lot of people don't talk about, and obviously you have experience with it. Congratulations once again. But how tough is it to kind of move on and, I guess, up, you know, in this business as coaching, especially recruiting kids and then moving on. How challenging is that for a coach? Yeah, I mean, I think I think it's the worst part of what happens, you know,

and obviously, listen, I made the decision to come here and to some degree words become hollow at that point. But you make a lot of special connections. I'm very thankful to President Price and Athletic Director Nina King. You know, they were the ones who believed in me and gave me that opportunity. There were an awful lot of people around that program that supported me. And, you know, there's a lot of players in that locker room that believed in me. And all of that comes together and creates this opportunity for me. And, you know, in some degree, you turn your back on all of that. And that's never easy.

And that's not something that I take lightly at all. And the best I can do is just say that I'll be there to support them and whatever they ever need from me, I'll be there for them. Okay, so let's talk about that. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Coach, just curious. Like when you come into this situation, how do you balance the use of the transfer portal and recruiting?

Because obviously you want to recruit your own guys, and you need to do that because the portal is, in a sense, almost kind of just slapping a Band-Aid on things for a quick turnaround. But when you understand the expectations, like at Texas A&M, it's not one of those things where it's, hey, we have a bunch of time to get our own guys in here, and we can kind of take the lumps and maybe not do that great until those guys develop. How do you kind of manage that fine line between, hey,

we want to go out and we want to recruit our guys, but we also need to kind of look in the portal and try to improve very quickly for next year? Yeah, I think the first part of that is culture wins and talented culture wins championships. And so that has to be at the premium. And so everyone that we bring into this program has to want to be part of Texas A&M football.

And so a large chunk of that is always going to be high school recruits. We play in the greatest football state in the country. The high school football in Texas is where everything will start for us, making sure we build relationships with everybody in this state and clean this state out for every kid that we think fits us the right way. But then you've got to expand, right? And the expansion nowadays is going national and recruiting, and it's the portal.

And the portal's always got a piece of how you recruit and how you supplement your roster. Go ahead, always got a piece of how you recruit and how you supplement your roster. Go ahead AJ. Coach I would imagine your time that you've already spent there on campus you already have great relationships with a lot of the big time high school coaches in Texas how big of a part is that like how easy did it make it to come back there knowing you already have these relationships in place and like you said you want to clean Texas out of all the talent that would fit your program. Yeah, I think it's just knowing that people are going to support you and believe in you. Anytime you go to a place where you've established relationships, you've done things the right way.

Oh, it's gone. When you can go back into that environment, you know those people are going to support you every way they can. go back into that environment, you know, those people are going to support you every way they can. And, you know, that in and of itself creates a comfort level that makes this feel like it could happen really fast for us. What was the interview process like? You know, did you have to lay out like your recruiting pitch to people, you know, in Texas? Was it they wanted you, they were pitching you bad to come back? What was the whole kind of give and take to get you to this point? You know, those things are always extensive. It starts with a little bit of an initial conversation.

And then, you know, a lot of times it's the body of work. And that's all I've ever sold. You know, I sold the body of work of what I did here at Texas A&M for four years and what we did on defense incrementally getting better every single year that I was here. And then what I did at Duke is head football coach. And I've always kind of let my body of work speak for who I am. I've not been a guy who goes out publicly and makes a lot of loud, outrageous statements.

It's just not who I am. That's probably why you never heard of me prior to you coming down to campus and checking in on us. But, you know, if you check my background and you check who I've been and you check what I've done over the years, that'll measure up against anybody in the country. A lot of the guys that you had over Duke on the coaching staff going to make the trip with you or do you have to recruit those guys? I assume because whenever you have success, everybody's looking to grab a piece of that. Yeah, no doubt. And listen, you try to be as loyal as you can to the people who helped get you here.

There's there's quite a few guys that will fit. And then there's other guys. The hard part about when you do this, people don't realize is there's a whole bunch of people you have relationships with in coaching and either cross paths with them and respect them or have worked with them or spent time with them. And you've got this huge pot of guys. And what I have to do is I just got to put together the right puzzle for Texas A&M at this time. And again, we're going to take our time and do that the right way. How happy are you to be back in the SEC, get a chance to chat with Feinbaum today? That's a dream come true.

We're back in the SEC. I'll tell you what, you know, you've made it when you get to double-team McAfee and Feinbaum in the same day. That's when you know you're where you want to be as a coach. Hey, listen, that's a tag team that I think the world doesn't need a lot of, but you are going to crush it, obviously, on that show as you did this one. We can't wait to see what you do down there, man. You're a good ball coach and a good dude. We're proud of you.

Yeah, I appreciate you, Pat. I appreciate everything you guys have done for me this one. We can't wait to see what you do down there, man. You're a good ball coach and a good dude. We're proud of you. Yeah, I appreciate you, Pat. I appreciate everything you guys have done for me this year and obviously look forward to continuing this and just appreciate your show, everything you're doing, everything you guys are about. Well, it's stupid. You know that.

So I appreciate the fact that a super genius like yourself can appreciate it. Now, as you're piecing together that contract, you're like, if they want to fire me, it's fine. But I know how it goes down here. We need $79 million to buy out of this thing. How much of that business that has taken place in the coaching and college coaching business is obviously an insane one.

And there's a fine gentleman who is a southern, southern boy who's really at the pinnacle of all of it, Mr. Jimmy Sexton. How much do you pay attention to all that, and how quick did that deal get done for you to get to Texas A&M once you guys agreed that you were the right for each other? Yeah, listen, I'm going to be the unicorn in this business and how this stuff goes. I started getting paid way more than I needed to to coach football a long time ago. And so I got people that handled that. I want a job. I want an opportunity. I want to win football games than I needed to, to coach football a long time ago. And so I got people that handled that. I want a job. I want an opportunity. I want to win football games.

I want to win championships. The rest of that stuff, I let other people handle and, you know, listen, we get what we get and it's crazy. And from how I grew up, where I started in this business,

I was at the United States Merchant Marine Academy, calling plays. And so I've way exceeded expectations from where this thing started for me. Hell yeah. Well, congrats. You've earned it all along the way. Ladies and gentlemen, new coach at Texas A&M, Mike Elko. Thank you, pal.

Appreciate you guys. Hey, thank you, man. Make sure they pay you if they fire you, though. Not when. Hopefully not. I may hire you. You're going to be half agent, half hype man. Hey, you got it, bro. You you got it i'm okay with that job pretty good at both of them you're the man you deserve it all coach elko ladies and gentlemen we love that guy yeah they're gonna go i think so absolutely and he said like this place has the backing to win it all what he said was this place has the money yeah to be able to do whatever the hell we need to do right and

that's why whenever jimbo fisher gets fired everybody says oh 77 million 77 million whatever blah blah blah that's a huge story it is but every other coach is like they're paying 77 million for somebody to leave there think about how much money they'll spend to get people in there yeah to do that entirely not just for them but for his, so he can pay a coaching staff. And then obviously with the way recruiting is now in the transfer portal, how it's free agency pretty much. When he was at Duke, now obviously Duke is a very well-to-do school, and I had a great time down there.

It was awesome. I appreciated it all. It's like at Texas A&M, a little bit different. Like, hey, if there's a Texas quarterback maybe that is thinking about going to SEC Texas, because they're also in the SEC, or thinking about going to Texas A&M,'re also in the sec or thinking about going to texas a&m all of a sudden the duke boosters are like go to another state yeah let's find another there's got to be another quarterback out there we're gonna go seven million five million

get out of here nuts what are we talking about it's like how much we're gonna pay how much you get give him 15 you're right you're right you don't deserve that you deserve more money it's like not that mike elko will waste that. He will use that in a very intelligent manner. But the fact that he has that as an added weapon on top of what he already can do, it's like he's already got a good eye for talent. We've been able to see that from what he's been able to build. And now he's going to be able to get in some guys,

recruit some guys that have not been touchable by a Mike Elko staff before. It's good. It's a weapon. Good for him. It was quick, too, at Duke. It's not like that took very long. It was one bad year, and then right away they had this year. And obviously, if Riley Leonard doesn't get hurt,

they're probably in a much different position. But, yeah, thanks, A&M, Mike. And you heard Riley talk about him. Yes. And you heard everybody else talk about him. And you heard his answer there. He's like, you feel like you turn your back kind of on everybody over there. He's still battling with the guilt of –

For sure. Hard though. Hard now too. Like the guilt of leaving. Okay, there's probably a couple people we want to bring with you. How many guys on the staff do you keep? I know they've already announced some different guys on the A&M staff that won't be coming back.

Like that's a tough process. Not only do you have to figure out who's available, who you can hire, but that's the great thing about A&M and that people don't talk about much. When you have money to hire your assistants, that's the biggest thing. A lot of coaches go back and try to renegotiate contracts where they add an extra million that they can spread

out to their coaching staff. That's a big deal, man. You've got to be able to pay the best assistants. Allegedly, it's why Rich Rod ended up leaving West Virginia. Allegedly. Why he went to Michigan is because he couldn't get any money to pay his staff. He couldn't get any more money to pay his staff at all, let alone recruiting money and everything like that

at that time in West Virginia. But it's like paying the staff is a whole other added amount of money that nobody thinks about. Recruits, we've got to pay for recruits. We've got to pay the head coach, obviously. We've got to build facilities. We've got to do this. Nobody thinks about, like, yeah, but who's, like, developing what we've got going on?

Because there's good coaches, and then there's some bad coaches. There's bad coaches out there. There's plenty of them, yeah. There's bad coaches. I think they got $11 million, I believe, is from the sheets that was released to the public is how much he has in a pool for assistant coaches. Pretty good amount of money. Yeah, for sure.

What's that compared to other big schools? Yeah, I don't know. And I assume he could probably get more if he needed it, too. What's the structure typically when it comes to roster building in the colleges, all on the head coach? Because I know some guys are more football guys, and then maybe you have a recruiting coordinator or guys. What's that?

Yeah, like a general manager. I think it's coach. Head coach. Got to be. Just calling all the shots. I think they're a part of it. They probably have people that go through it at some places. Saban talks about having a sports psychologist in this,

and I assume they have people that are like, hey, we need this type of guy or this type of position. We have weaknesses in this. But I think it's always the head coach. Especially a guy like him who's said multiple times how important his culture is. He's probably wanting to meet these kids and he's not just letting some guy be

like, oh yeah, this kid would fit in, no problem. He probably wants to meet them and talk to them face-to-face. This made its way on to X. This is allegedly Elko's contract right there. Salary pool for assistant coaches, analysts, operating, recruiting, strength and condition,

$11 million. Is that per year or for the entire thing? Who knows? Excited to see how he divvies that out and who he ends up getting. And he said, got to be the right fit for here. You know, all the people got to be the right fit for here. I'm excited to see what he thinks. Me too. Texas A&M goes. It'd be sick. I trust Elko.

Did you see that firing clause? No. It's only 75% now. They're not doing the full 100% like they did on the last one. Oh, you're talking about they negotiated another 25%? I think it's the same agent, I think, that negotiated. Really? I think. I think. Nice. What if he wants to bring Jimbo back to be his D coordinator?

He's an offensive guy, isn't he? Yeah. Well, Elko's a D coordinator. Jimbo? Yeah. Is he calling the defense? I don't know if Elko won't be. Santucci was doing it for him over there. Oh, yeah.

Duke, Pittsburgh kid. Right. That's why I remembered him. He was the one I thought of, actually, whenever I was like, go ahead and say you're bringing Santucci in the SEC. Good for this guy. Good for this guy down in Pittsburgh. We got to make sure we got the right fit in there.

I think they wanted the interim coach too. I think some of the players. Some of the players, yeah. Definitely liked him. Elijah Robinson. He was the assistant head coach and D-line coach. Who was the coach at Wisconsin before Fickle went in there? Jim Leonard. Jim Leonard. Remember, there was a full

huge thing. Keep him around. We want Jim to stay. He's one of us. He's as good here. And he said he would keep him, right? But then Jim Leonard was like, I'm not. We want Jim to stay. He's one of us. He's as good here. And he said he would keep him, right? But then Jim Leonard was like, I don't want to stay. Stayed in the Big Ten, right? Jim Leonard? I don't know. I didn't think he stayed. I just remember he's not coaching.

He's not? I don't know. I haven't seen him pop up. But I know that when they hired Luke Fickle, though, it felt like all those, we need Jim Leonard to stick around, kind of did get a little quieter. You know, it's like, oh, Fickle, pretty good coach. He's awesome. And then Leonard chose not to stick around there. But that's always.

Yeah, Illinois, okay. That's like a two-month process there where there's a lot of hurt feelings. Oh, yeah. But if you win games, guess who cares? Nobody. Well, I'm pretty sure Jim Leonard turned down the Packers' D.C. job. What? They were trying to get him to come do it.

Wow. I don't think he wanted to. And then, you know, they hired. But he was coaching in the NFL before the Wisconsin, right? Yeah. Bills or Ravens or something like that. Sounds like you know. Why don't you just say it?

Yeah. Well, I mean, I remember playing against him. He was a hell of a player. He was awesome. Heady. Great player. Yeah, he used that thing. Yeah, it's like with all undersized weight guys.

Boom. Just do that. There's no reason for it. You don't have to. Yeah. You're not even using it. Expensive piece of equipment. Yeah.

It's not your microphone. What the hell? It made the sound. That was the perfect sound. Do it on the corner of that table. Wrong, wrong, wrong. And we just got, speaking of wrong, Jim Leonard never coached in the NFL. He didn't coach? No.

Never coached in the NFL. Maybe he hit your head off too many microphones. Maybe. This is perfect. Let's cover some things we haven't covered today. Aaron Rogers is thrown onto Braxfield today. Whoa. They opened his 21-day window in which they have to make a decision on whether he's going to be activated to the roster or if he's going to be

put back on IR for the rest of the season in the next three weeks. If you remember, it was his left Achilles, right, that was torn. So whenever he's throwing here, he gets a little one-legged. He's going up on a one leg. He's spinning it a little bit. Obviously, big guy in the jacket gets in the way, gets out of the way. Throwing it hard, this is probably the day of the week in which he throws. He has a workout routine.

They open his practice ability. Obviously, the world goes crazy. They see him on the field spinning it, especially going up onto one. Oh! Going up onto one foot. A little two-step there, a little explosion there. Is this guy about to do it, AJ? What do you know that we don't?

I don't know much, but he did say yesterday he's excited to get back on the practice field. So, there he is. He's excited. He's excited. Here's the first video that made its way out of the internet. I see him go up on his toe. I want to see him go up on that left toe. He's up on one foot, dude, when he's throwing on purpose.

This is clearly on purpose, right? Boom, there. Let me lift my leg up. Let me showcase that I can go on one foot here. Is he wearing those super shoes? I'm sure he is. I believe. It Kind of looks like it. With some studs in the bottom of them? Yeah, make them cleats. Yeah, should. Make them cleats.

You know Tyreek has those Travis Scott's cleats on the bottom. So cool. Have you seen those? Yes. Those things turn sideways. I was watching Hard Knocks because I looked at the shoe. I'm like, those are really cool. Are those built to be running or whatever? He's bashing everybody on the field wearing Travis Scott cleats. It's phenomenal.

Those things were sideways at one point. He's just running right by somebody. Absurd. Those cleats, if they – It's Chico. Yes. It's Chico. It's ridiculous.

So is Aaron. This guy comes – What if they played barefoot? Who did the Jets have this weekend? Just seeing Aaron in that other field, that practice field, that gives you – Falcons there. You know your guys coming back.

Three-point dogs to the Falcons at home. Well, Falcons are hot right now too. They're in the lead in the NFC South. Just a few weeks ago, they were calling for Artie's head in Athens. They are currently in the lead. They got the Falcons, then they got the Texans, then they got the Dolphins, then they got the Commanders. Yikes.

Browns, Patriots. Okay. So if they're in it at the end, that last game the Commanders. Yikes. Browns, Patriots. Okay. So if they're in it at the end, that last game, Aaron might come back in. Oh, that would be. Can you imagine? They're 8-8 maybe. That's January 7th to be determined. The Browns game the week before, not one you want to, I mean,

the Browns defense not necessarily. Unless Miles is out. They got the Commanders, though, December 24th, right before Christmas. Ooh. But if the Jets lose lose this next game they still have hope can they lose two games the next two and still have hope i don't think so no nine is that number yeah with the afc with where everybody is i don't think they can lose a couple straight here they're gonna have to get going i'm going to falcons texans, next three have to win two of those if they win Falcons and Texans

maybe he does come back for that third one well, if he doesn't let's say Commanders on Christmas Eve that's what Rap Sheet said he was aiming for allegedly Rap Sheet said he was aiming for that? yeah he doesn't know

all of our responses but he also Yeah. He doesn't know. Okay. All of our responses. Okay. But he also did not tell us yesterday he's going to be back on the practice field. Literally. And will be whole. Less than 24 hours later. So what do we know?

Fucking nothing. We don't know. That guy knows, though. Yes, he does. He said yesterday. He said yesterday. Can't wait to get on the practice field tomorrow. Jason Kelsey was chit-chatting on a local radio show in philadelphia about what happened with the defensive line jordan phillips and we obviously saw a couple great plays there by jason kelsey he was talking about uh you know

maybe a little dirty play happening in the eagles bills game well what the heck was going on with jordan phillips their d tackle going after camgens. I mean, like going full speed, not backing off, just trying to crush them. What's the deal with that? Well, you know, I think the one play was a quarterback sneak. And, you know, I think teams are really trying to stop that play. They talk about it all week. I'm sure they label it as some type of level of toughness to stop that play. They talk about it all week. I'm sure they label it as some type of, like, level of toughness to stop the play. Mm-hmm.

I thought it was bullshit at the time. I really did. And I said so to the official on the field. I said, listen, I've been running that play a lot of years. I have seen people jump off sides. He made zero effort to stop after he jumped off sides. Absolutely. He purposely tried to hurt Cam Juergens.

He did? I thought it should have been a personal foul, and I think he should be fined for that point. Now, I'm not going to comment on the rest of the game. There were things happening with the fans. I don't know what happened that got him that fired up, but I thought that play in particular was absolutely a disgrace that the NFL should not allow.

I really do. And I don't know Jordan Phillips. He might be the best guy in the world. But that, in my opinion, the NFL needs to do something about him because that shouldn't be allowed in this game. At this level, I thought the officials did not do a good job of officiating that play. I agree. I really didn't.

I think that was so clearly not an didn't. That was a travesty. That was so clearly not a offside. That was a personal foul. And it should have been stipulated right from that moment. And because they didn't call that, you saw things happen throughout the rest of the game. Okay, so setting the tone is what J.C. Kelsey is talking about. Here's the play that he is referring to. It was a brotherly shove where Jordan Phillips jumped offside

and continued to run his feet all the way back, and the ball was clearly not snapped. A.Q. Shipley, we'll go to you now, obviously, because you're a man who appreciates the trench warfare. Vita Vea is the man for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers who defeated the brotherly shove earlier this season. What Kelsey said there, is there just, like, honor amongst the trenches, what you're supposed to do, what you're not supposed to do?

Because he said that was, like, disrespectful to the NFL pretty much. That's 100%. He's 100% right. That's bullshit. I mean, you just can't let that happen. It's one of those plays where, yeah, you can jump off sides, but you know as soon as you make contact, it's off sides. Just fucking shut it down. D-butt, what are you thinking from a defensive side?

Oh, okay. I just saw a guy try to fucking snap his shoulder off. 15 yards past. Was the play still going? We don yards past. Was the play still going? We don't know. Was the play still going? Hey, that play right there, 4-1, and Kelsey knows this. That was a tone setter.

Look, we're going to send this tone. Sometimes you play certain quarterbacks, maybe banged up. Hey, we're going to hit them low or whatever. You're going to get a personal foul, and we're going to go about the game. Come on, man. Wasn't Kelsey? I love Jason. Didn't he coach in Philly have a joint practice where it was?

What? I don't remember that. He got in a fight. He did, yeah, but he's firing. I think he was out of Franklin late. 80 plus 65 plus 30 is 170, 184. Fuck, Jordan Phillips set the tone, man. They only fucking gave up 185 yards rushing.

It ain't working. It's a hell of a time. It ain't working. Hold on. It's a hell of a time. Good job, man. They only fucking gave up 185 yards rushing. It ain't working. It's a hell of a tone. It's a hell of a tone. Hold on. It's a hell of a tone. Good job, man. Crushed it. AJ, what are your thoughts on that?

Jason Kelsey is not normally going to say that type of thing either, by the way. No. That's very abnormal, I think, for Jason Kelsey and any offensive lineman to kind of say. So there must have been more throughout the game that was happening where he was like, this guy, hey, come on. Like, we're kind of, this is the NFL type of thing. How do you feel about it, AJ? Yeah, I mean, there is like a, it is a big fraternity in the NFL.

Like, people legit are not trying to hurt players. Like, you're trying to annihilate them, but you're not doing things late and cheap to hurt players. There is a respect thing. I get it. Games get fired. He just kept his legs going. Yeah, I understand why Kelsey

is upset 100%, but also, if that's a D-lineman on my squad, I'm not too upset with him. I'm thinking, all right, okay, bud. Now we've got to stand up and actually stop the run, though. Now they know what we're about! He did have two false starts on that last drive in regulation,

so it could have worked. Maybe it did. Oh, got him a little bit gushed. He was jumpy. Nervous. Jumpy with that hand. Jordan Phillips fought a fan. Yeah, he was robbed up. Got everybody fired up.

You're not stopping that play anyway, so shit. Well, Vita Vea did. I saw Vita Vea in real life this weekend. That's hilarious. His calves, bro. I'd say they're eight-pound bowling balls. You know you go to like a bowling alley? Oh, yeah.

And they have the different size bowls and everything? I would say eight-pound bowling balls are what each of his fucking calves are. It was right in front of me. I'm literally, I'm 10 yards away. I took photos. I'll send a photo. It's kind of weird, photos I took, to be honest. I just, why I didn't post them. Because I'm zoomed in on this guy's fucking calves.

I'm like, look at this thing's calves. And then you see, it's... I don't know. He, him, Vita. He's three people wide. He's three people wide. And his calves are literally the size of your quads. And then he's just moving

all over. And then we watch his high school... He was a running back. He's 1-1, and he's just moving all over. And then we watch his high school. He was running back. Yes, he was. Crazy. He's 1-1, and he's the one that defeated the brotherly shove this year. And that's what every D-line and defense coordinator to Jason Kelsey's points. Like, Vita stopped it, so are we going to be the team that's going to stop it or not?

Are we just going to let Jason Kelsey and Jalen Hurts crowd surf over our backs like they do to every other team. And it seems like more often than not, they're getting surfed. Oh, yeah. And that's just the way Bradley Shove football goes, baby. The way Vita, too, was lining up sometimes when he was right over the center. Like, obviously, you know, you talk about Nick Bosa being a jungle cat, being two yards. He's just like in a almost like a sumo wrestler's stance. Like squatting down.

It must just be impossible to move him. If he's lined up like that, how the hell can you do it? Vince Wilford. You ever played against Vince? Oh yeah. I played against Vince. He was a monster. Casey Hampton. I just sent the photo in that I took. So it should be in the group text here in a matter

of moments. He's fucking gigantic. I took a full photo because you can clearly see him in the full photo with how wide he is i've never seen anything like i was so pumped to just see it because we've had a chance to have him on the show but when he's facetiming look at those fucking things crazy look at those things dude he's got great feet as well that's the thing his feet are like he's know, he moves like he's a DB almost. What was he calling? Big baby.

Big girl. Big girl. So he was close enough. I guess that's what he was calling in Dominick and Sue. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying this is what he said on our show. And in FaceTime, I don't think you get the full effect of how big of a human he is. But whenever he was, like, close, I was almost, like, marking out, like, hey, big girl.

And then I didn't want to, you know, have him get get a fence especially after seeing him in person how big he is so you know i'm just gonna shut the fuck up i'm just gonna let that thing do its thing he's a beast monster it's an absolute monster what like um hello dinata right at some of those de-tackle positions throughout the history you obviously brought up up Casey Hampton, old buddy, yeah, Vince Wilfork. Gilbert Brown. I watched Vince Wilfork. Sean Rogers. Albert Hainsworth.

I watched Vince Wilfork hit Donald Brown one time. Oh. I don't know how Donald got up. Donald thought he was free. So he's running full speed. He's like this. And this thing came from the side and just we turned that son of a bitch sideways. And it was like that was, oh, my God.

And Donald hopped right up because he's a stallion and a dog and everything like that. But that was when Vince was just starting to get all the love and accolades at the end of his year. We were talking about he swims. That's how he stays in shape. He doesn't run anymore. And he's obviously an incredible cook. He took over games for the Patriots there for a bit. Oh, yeah.

He was a big part of that early run. But I've never seen a man move other, like, grown men. Like, people, they would double team, deuce, whatever, and that shit would just not move. And then when I first got there, it was him and Richard Seymour. He was like the five technique. So he was another just grown-ass man amongst me. Albert Hainsworth, you know, when he wanted to play, when he had the tight endour, he was like the five techniques. So he was another just grown-ass man amongst me. Albert Hainsworth, when he wanted to play, when he had the tightness,

he was unbelievable. Vince is the butt fumble. The reason the butt fumble happened is because Vince Wilford couldn't move him, and then obviously Sanchez is coming to the line, and Vince Wilford just pushes the dude into Mark Sanchez's fumble. Yeah, it was like whenever you punt and the person, the gunner, tries to throw the corner into the returner, which is a great strategy and a good move.

Vince Woolford used to do that to offensive linemen. Alright, I'm going to throw him into the running back. Okay, I'm going to make a tackle here. Did you and Vince ever dance? Oh, yeah. How'd that go? So what did you just say? You know, I'm going to get my right right underneath. Listen, I've played against so many of these big guys. It's like

you just have to know what you're – you have to try and run zone plays to get them moving because you can't – if you try and run the duo scheme or anything downhill at them, they just sit there and take up space and you can't move them. So it's like you try and get them moving to let them run themselves out of the play and hopefully cut behind it. Use their leverage a little bit.

Yeah, bingo. That's what's crazy about like vince and definitely vita like those zone plays now yeah their feet are ridiculous there was a couple plays where i think vita wasn't necessarily attempting to slaughter somebody and it was like those were obvious but then like whenever they needed one oh he's like here we go this is there's about to be a display of strength here that i don't think we have in many places. So congrats to the big guys doing their thing. And congrats to us getting a chance to give away maybe 20 people $500. Wow.

Hell yeah. All AQ Shipley's got to do is something. AQ, what do you want to do? You want to throw a football? Shoot a basketball? Maybe make some putts? Putt again. No, no, no.

Putts. Oh, we can turn everything else. Didn't he make eight out of eight? Eight out of eight putts last time? No more putts. I believe he was one of seven. I felt great watching that. Made the first one, though, didn't he?

Mm-hmm. Is that one back on? Yep. Talk. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. Nope. No. No, it's not.

He's got to hit the... You got to turn it back on. Turn it back on. Leave your shirt over your antenna. Let it out. Yeah, yeah. Let the antenna breathe, maybe. Thank you, Butts.

Super fashionable. I better? We better? We back? We back? Yeah, there you go. I'm just We better? We back? We back? There you go. I'm just going to hold it like this. So the issue is, it's like that mic would be good for you when you were fat.

Yeah. Because it would sit up a little bit. Now that thing's going all the way down in between your chest, you know what I mean? Hello. Because you got that little baby neck. Yeah. Hello. So did you get all new clothes, AQ?

Yeah, I threw. I literally donated six bags, six trash bags to Goodwill. This is GQ Shipley now. And what are you going to do? You're going to throw that football into that ball hoop right over there? Into that hoop. Have you been practicing throwing the football around? Nope.

In the Ferragamo. Okay. That was our Ferragamo. She's got a Louis belt on too right now. Wow. What happened to you, man? What happened? What do you mean? This is from the playing days. I'm proud of you. I'm on the last hole, though. gomu she's got a louis belt on too right now what happened to you man what happened wow this is this

is from the playing days i'm proud of you i'm on the last hole though you guys know how to add holes to belts yeah oh yeah yeah oh yeah i'm gonna have to do that i think you know what the right move is you get a nail get a nail just go right through it yeah all right because every once in a while you'll take scissors you're like i got it and phrase and i'll jam this thing in there and then you bend it all and it gets terrible yeah, you got to take a nail hammer. Hammering nails. That's what I'm doing. Stacking them nails.

Hold up. Darius knows that song. He was starting to sing with us. What is the song? I just need like four more words. What? Fucking dog tired by the five o'clock hour, but I'm ready to raise some hell. What's going on'm getting ready.

Who's that? FGL? Gassing up the Chevy. Hell yeah. Who is it? FGL. Yeah. Florida Georgia Lions.

It is. They didn't crack my top five on Spotify. No. They didn't crack it. Good top five. Mine? Good top five. Yeah, I got a solid.

I got a very solid top five very solid top I got to check mine Is it out on Spotify today? Yeah, you're a wrapped up thing And thank you to everybody that had us as their top podcast I forget that this show is a podcast But there's a lot of people listening I think we're top five sports podcasts on Spotify We are

Which is wild to think about We love it. We appreciate everybody that listens. New Heights, number one. Pardon My Take, number two. Bill Simmons, I believe, is number three. FF Baller, that's the fantasy footballers, I believe. And then us sitting there at five. Look at us.

Wow. Let's go. Podcast. Forget about that a lot. What? The podcast. No. I really do. Tie every day. Thanks, asswad. No, no, I know it exists. Sit. I really do. Ty, every day. Thanks, Aswad. No, no, I know it exists. Ty, I watch that thing every single day. I forget people actually listen to that and not the live show. Which we appreciate.

I obviously see it every day. Yeah, I'm sure you do. I'm just saying, I forget people consume that way. Thanksgiving was last week. Why don't you be grateful for your toxic table compadre, Ty Schmidt. I am. A lot of people still listen to the podcast, actually. I know a lot of people have never seen video of the show.

Wow. I see. I know nobody that's never seen video. Me too. Me too. Yeah. I know people that only listen in their car to the podcast. So we'll go out to like when we do the shows on Fridays when we run into people and I'll meet somebody and I'm like, hey, what's up?

They're like, hey, big fan, man. Listen to the podcast every day going to work and coming home from work or whatever. And I'm like, all right. Thank you for doing that. Ty works really hard on that thing every single day. There's a lot out there I'm learning today because of Spotify. Oh, yeah. This wrapped up.

Today has been a big learning day. I found out this is like a big, like, in the office. Construction workers, too. Puts it up in the office. Huge. Podcast wrapped up. Today has been a big learning day. I found out this is like a big in the office. Construction workers too. Puts it up in the office. Huge. Podcast? Yes. Construction workers? Yes. Because it's audio only so you can't because you got to use your hands. Yeah, you can still listen all day long. Shout out to those construction workers out there.

Hell yeah. It's better not to see us anyways. Except for AQ. This guy looks good. This guy's super dressed up, super nice. Who's got a better closet? You or Darius right now, you think? I only got like seven things. I've wore this twice, I think, already.

K-Fame, nobody knows. People forget what you wore last week. You know what needs to come back now that it's colder weather? Community sweatshirt. Oh, yeah. I'd maybe throw that one in the old garbage bag. I think you should go fuck yourself. Oh, jeez.

Two days in a row. Jeez. What's that about, AQs? All right. On that note. Here we go. I'm going to make it today. If AQs, GQs, can bury this football into that hoop right over there,

$20 people, $500. Going into the holidays, it'll be a great little boost. Come on, AQ. AQ, do it for the people after a great in the trenches. For the community. For the community, AQ. That's what I'm talking about. For everybody.

Way to join in. AJ, anything you say to AQ before he takes his GQ shot here? I think he's going to bank this first one. Let's go, AQ. So we're going bank, huh? Come on. 20 people, $500. Pull it in the hole.

Here we go. Super Bowl champion. Oh, man. He was going for the hoop. And then AJ said bank. So he kind of got caught in the middle there. This one, he's going to be decisive, and it's going to fall. And when it falls, GQ Shipley, 20 people, $500.

Top 10 college football program alum, Penn State Nittany Lion, Super Bowl champion, being a hero! Oh, man, look good. This is right on. Right on. The line is good. The line is good. Today has become Primate Wednesday.

We've been talking a lot about macaques and orangutans and chimpanzees. Yep. And any monkey that exists out there. The whole umbrella. Miss you, Harambe. Rest in peace to Harambe. Yeah, yeah. Our own vanilla gorilla here.

A man who is as wide as he is tall. Can bury a shot here in 20 people. Yeah, yeah. Our own Vanilla Gorilla here, a man who is as wide as he is tall, can bury a shot here in 20 people, can win $500. A.Q., you train in a billionaire's basement for this moment right here. Your mental toughness of being a Super Bowl champion is going to come through. Connor is going to tell you a couple things to focus on in this particular throw, actually. Yeah, A.Q., look, your shoes aren't really as great as everyone talks about. You haven't really thrown

a football in this office really ever. You can't really make putts. Your basketball shot isn't very good right now, but none of that matters. Just this throw right here matters. Okay, perfect. I got it. Here we go. 20 people, $500 with the actual albino.

That was the worst one by a mile Connor, your bed socks Dude, what do you mean? I hyped you up so much You almost threw it over the fucking hoop Is this the one? You're an NFL guy Why don't you turn around and look at your kin?

I mean That does look like you I mean Yeah I kind of wish I had a chest like that He's got your goatee and everything Yeah, kind of your facial expressions, too. It's like looking in a mirror.

Hey, Q, why don't you talk to GQ and AQ right here? Can you put your hands like that? In the face. Lean over a little bit. Yeah, lean. A little lean. Yeah, perfect. Thank you.

This show does stuff no other show will do. That's the one. I'll go this way. Which way? I'll go this way. So you're going to throw all those balls at one hoop, and then you're going to change balls and switch hoops. Yeah, because I remember the last good pep talk I got

was that the way that the ball goes, it comes back in off the bank this way. Okay, yeah. Right? Yep. Are you fucking lying to me? No, this is in off the bank this way. Okay, yeah. Right? Yep. Are you fucking lying to me? No, this is just like the field goal kickers every single Saturday. I look at them, have you ever kicked anything before? No.

Okay, you toe-bashing this thing? Are you just going to toe-bash it? No, soccer style. You should toe-bash it. No, I'm a soccer star. Okay. All right, what the fuck do I know? All right.

I actually, Randy Baumann, I believe, at DVE, he put out a tweet this believe, at DVE, he put out a tweet this past weekend, DVE back in Pittsburgh. He goes, McAfee's got to be telling these people they can't toe bash it or whatever. It's like complete opposite, Randy. I want to let you know. I just saw the tweet within the last day or so. I'm telling you, one guy had shit kicking boots on with a straight front.

Oh, man. Like old school. Toe bash that all day long, man. Dude that has half a foot. The dude that had a George Blanche. Blanda. Blanda. Blanda.

Like he actually, this one kid had shit kickers on that had the flat front. And I'm like, this is perfect for a toe bash. He goes, no, I'm getting my friend's shoe. I'm like, to do what? I'm a soccer style kicker. I'm like, you just toe bash. I told the kid at JMU, too. Just toe it.

Just toe bash it. We've tried. So what I'm saying is I have tried to help these people win legitimately every single time. Now, that's supposed to be Herbie's job. Herbie instead has turned into, these guys got no fucking shot. He rules them out before they even step up to the entire thing. I'm like, Herbie, you're supposed to be baby-facing her. I'm supposed to be the guy that's mad.

And instead, it turns into Herbie going, this guy sucks. And I'm like, Herbie, you're supposed to be baby-facing her. I'm supposed to be the guy that's mad. And instead it turns into Herbie going, this guy sucks. And I'm like, swing hard. Just try and make contact here and do this whole thing. I'm very appreciative of all of them, but they need to toe-bash it. You have to. So when I'm giving tips, I'm trying to help people win. That's what I genuinely would like people to do.

That's why I'm going this way. Because I don't want any excuses. I want it to be fair and square. I want it to be fair and square. I want you to have every opportunity to win 20 people $500. With that Duke right there that was kicked off to myself in a game. Houston, Texas. It was filled back then, that stadium. You put it into that hoop, 20 people, $500.

Here we go. AQ, be a hero on this November 29th. Going into the holiday! I didn't even look. I wasn't even watching. Didn't even hit the backboard. You hit the metal around it. Of course. Good hoop switch. Hit some putts. Oh, the bag. Oh, yeah. Here we go. Going for the hoop. We have some breaking news.

Kevin Savansky of the Cleveland Browns said Joe Flacco will be the backup this weekend to DTR, who is currently in the concussion protocol. If DTR can't go, Flacco would get the start. Yes. For his former rival. Obviously, he's Baltimore Ravens hero. Our boy Joey. He's a member of the Cleveland Browns.

Congrats, Joe Flacco. Back in the conversation. He'd be a great quarterback for that Browns team. Can't wait. A lot of this. A lot of this. A lot of this. Yep. A lot of this. And when you get them sucked up, Joe can hit any ball that you need. With that defense and how great they are,

and I'm not saying DTR is not able to do this. We hope DTR is healthy and good luck to them. But if Joe Flacco is a starting quarterback in 2023 for the Cleveland Browns, that's must watch. Yeah. And I'm pumped up about it. Absolutely. AJ, any thoughts on footsteps Joe Flacco

potentially being a starting quarterback in 2023? I mean, honestly, it makes sense. Think about Flacco surrounded with a great defense and then surrounded by a lot of talent on offense. Joe Flacco seems like the perfect candidate for this job right now. And we've had him on the program one time. Correct.

What's up? This is what he said. Yeah. Hey, it's Joe Flacco. Seemed like a super cool guy. He. What's up? This is what he said. Yeah. Hey, it's Joe Flacco. Seemed like a super cool guy. He did. Everybody seems to really like Joe Flacco. I didn't realize you weren't 15.

Doesn't matter. That's awesome. It doesn't matter what number it is. The only thing that matters is that he has a helmet on his head and a ball in his hand. Yeah, you're right. That's called heaven with Joe Flacco. Yep. Welcome back, Joey Flacco.

Welcome back, Joe. Sorry, my homes. Got a new 15 in town. One fiver is a real deal. Mm-hmm. Hey, Q, did I see you were about to fuck around with a little cornhole? Was that what I saw there? I had a bag.

Before we were breaking some news, you walked right through the shot? Yep. Yeah, where are we throwing? I mean, can you get one of those to the hoop? I don't even know if we have the cornhole board set up. Throw it in the hoop. Throw it in the hoop. Yeah, all right. If you have the cornhole board set up. Throw it in the hoop. If you put the cornhole bag into that hoop,

25 people, $500. Go ahead. Check it out. We're close. We are close. Now, with how easy that was, and now the thought that it is certainly attainable, we'll make it 30 people.

$500. All you got to do is bury that cornhole bag into that hoop right over there on this November 29th, heading into the holiday season. Be a hero, AQ Shipley. Here we go. Bank. Oh, no. This guy sucks.

This guy stopped working out, too. There's another bag right there. Where? Right in front of your face. Left, left, left, left. This guy stopped working out, too. There's another bag right there. Where? Right in front of your face. Left, left, left, left. I got two more bags I found. Top of the desk. Three more bags I found.

Here we go. Won't need it. I think you got to go to that one. Nope. I think. You think that one? I think so. I mean, this seems too easy.

I mean, just as somebody who has thrown bags with you before feels like that was a little bit too easy. Don't you think? I was pretty good at the cornhole. You you were pretty good that's why i think like that was pretty simple all right you should have made that by the way three i should have three to this one yeah you got one you all you do is make one into that hoop over there come on in 30 people win five hundred dollars aq shipley formerly a very good corn holder. Oh. There you go.

This is the right one. A.J., how are you a corn hole? Pretty darn good. Man, I understand A.Q. stepping with the right foot because that is kind of proper corn hole technique. But when you have to go this far, I might go left foot forward to get a little push off so I can get some distance off. A.J., you're a good corn holder? I have the distance. Oh, yeah. That's how I pay my rent in college, by dominating people in corn holes. AJ, you're a good cornholer? I had the distance. Oh, yeah.

That's how I pay my rent in college, by dominating people in cornhole. Oh, did you guys have it in the Packers locker room? No, we never had it there. I just played it all through high school and college. When it got introduced into the Colts locker room, boy, that was the first time I played. I love that game. So fun.

That is a great game. And if you don't have any meetings or anything to worry about, you can play a good four or five hours a day. Yeah. And you can get real good. Real, real good. And this is a sport that basically every time you go to in the Midwest, some kid there thinks he's the best cornhole player of all time. For sure.

And you said you paid your rent. I had a good time for a couple years there making some money on the old cornhole boards. There's no way that doofus football player can throw those too, right? Yes. At some point, I will be in that Cornhole League as well. ACL? ACL.

They've invited me a few times because I've spoke publicly about my love for Cornhole and at one time how good I was at Cornhole. But I believe that to be in the professional league at Cornhole, you have to focus on that. There is levels to this shit. There is certainly a difference between being an okay cornhole player and being a precision thrower so until i have the time to focus a couple hours a day on my cornhole throwing i will not dive back into the world but boy when i was a professional athlete you were good and i didn't have shit to do during the day i got pretty good with those bags i felt real good about it. Now, should I have watched more film?

Maybe. Maybe that's why Shane Littler deserves to go into the Hall of Fame. But those were good times back then, AQ. And you were a great player. Yeah, we used to be teammates a little bit. Yeah, that was the right place to be in that locker room. Yeah, it was. Yep, absolutely.

Me and Dwight Freeney. Yeah. He was not that great. No, he lost potato chips. I don't know if I'll have to say it. Never with me. Nope. All right. You really threw off.

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you Shipley Berries! Did that go in? No, it didn't. It might have. I think it went in. Swoosh. Unfortunately think it went in. He's selling it. Swoosh.

Nothing but net. Unfortunately, it did not. Can we get an instant replay? Did that go in? Thank you. I thought it may have. I agree, AJ. I saw what you saw.

Is there a chance that thing slid through? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Because where you banked it at feels like it should have went in. Yeah. Math says, science says that that one should have went in the hoop. But I think it went on the other side. Oh, not even close. You're just being foolish.

You're just being foolish? Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, no. That was a good one. All right. That was an embarrassment. AJ really screwed you up because you stepped with the right again.

Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You don't want to change it up right there. But that's a up because you stepped with the right again. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. You don't want to change it up right there, but that's a long throw. It's a long toss. All right, you done? Yeah, I'm done. What about the hoops? Make a putt.

Make a putt. He can't. That won't fucking happen. What about the hoops? You want a dorsal fin? Oh, yeah. Damn close. You did.

Calibrate it. Calibrate it. We are trying our best to have you be a winner. I'll putt. I'll putt, too. Calibrated. Here it is. Slow-mo on your last attempt.

Oh, we got promise. We got hope. Bank. Oh, it hit the. Yeah, it's not in here. No. It was further away than any. Maybe your worst one yet.

Have a good one, Frankie boy. Congrats on everything. Now, AQ, if you can bury that dorsal fin into that hoop over there, 50 people, $500 on this glorious winner Wednesday, November 29th, 2023. Oh, my. You throw that ball well. Yeah, you do. One of the best dorsal fin throwers on the planet.

Yeah, that's going to be it for today. That's going to be it for today. What a day. For who? Everybody. You're right. Yes. You're right.

Positivity. Oh, fuck. I mean, good toss, though. Yeah. Oh. Oh, fuck. I mean, good toss, though. Yeah. Oh! Come on! There's one more. There's one more right there.

There's one more underneath. Right in front of you. Right in front. Ooh. Ooh. Gotcha. Oh! Tough day. Yeah.

Not a single thing was made. I know. You got a college football, national championship football right there. Got a graveyard out here. Look at you. Another one. Flat ball. That that's tough Tough one Yep

Oh Well sorry about it people We tried We tried Throwing everything possible It wasn't because of lack of effort alright guys People are going to judge us for this You know that.

Dude perfect would never. Will we miss 100 shots today? Should we rewind the tape? Do it 87 more times? Let's get out of here. All right, we apologize for not being able to win anything for anybody anywhere. Speaking of winners, we've got to announce all the winners from this past week. It's coming up here in the graphics as soon as we get out of here.

There it is. We'll be back tomorrow. Big time show. Week 13 kicks off. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go, Cowboys Seahawks tomorrow. Let's go.

We're going to win for people tomorrow. Let's go. This is a good thing. Chuck Pagano tomorrow, he's going to win. He's going to win for the people. Hey, Q, great work today on the instructions. Great work. Great work, Q.

Great work this week, pal. You too. Really great work. Talks to the table. Way to go today. Yeah, you, Pat. With that elephant shirt on and the Hawkeyes. Oh, as we sit right now, Ty, what do you think the final score is?

A little bit different than yesterday. I like the Hawks 12-7. Ooh. Oh. 12-7. That. 12-7. That's a much different game. Four field goals? That's right.

You're going to be like Chicago Bears? Bingo. You know what? If this goes in, you're right. Okay. I guess 14-10. Okay. Good to know.

44-10. That's how we're going to steal one. I really tried to. Yeah, offensive explosion. AJ, great work today. Boys in the back, way to go. All right, for the holiday season, team on me, team on three. One, two, three.

Team. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice that might change their life. Goodbye.