The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1034 - MNF Doubleheader Recap, P.K. Subban, Aaron Rodgers, Nebraska Head Coach Matt Rhule, AQ Shipley and Darius Butler LIVE From The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 12, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap last night’s crazy Monday Night Football doubleheader that saw Tommy Cutlets once again orchestrate an incredible performance that saw the Giants defeat the Packers at home, and the Titans put together one of the best comeback’s in NFL history as they defeated the Dolphins in Miami down 14 with less than three minutes left. Today’s show also features three incredible guests including 6x NHL All-Star and ESPN NHL analyst PK Subban to chat about tonight’s massive tilt in Edmonton between the Oilers and Blackhawks and an update on the NHL right now (39:29-55:42), 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, and QB of the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers to chat about the Jets massive win this week, and everything that’s going on in the NFL as each week seems to get crazier than the one before (1:03:30-2:07:24), and Nebraska Head Football Coach Matt Rhule to chat about the Nebraska football rebuild, what he likes about college football as opposed to the NFL, the state of NIL in college football and how much things have changed since he last coached in college, how long he thinks it’ll take to get Nebraska to where they used to be, and much more (2:13:47-2:57:44). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, December 12th already, 2023, this sports program starts now. Football! It's happening in a massive way. Last night, there was a doubleheader on ESPN and on ABC where we saw a Paisan a Pison locally-based team to a massive win over a storied franchise like the Green Bay Packers. And then on the other side, we saw Tyree Kill and the Miami Dolphins lose to the

who? The Tennessee Titans. The AFC South is no joke, but now the conversation about who's real and who's not has changed drastically. Will we be overreacting today? Certainly. Yep. Have to. That's our job, but also we'll be talking about everything happening around the football world.

Statements that are being made, like Patrick Mahomes came out and said, yeah, I regret how I acted. You know, everybody was calling me a little bitch pretty much with the way I acted with that referee. I thought I was just showing emotion, maybe sticking up for my teammate, letting the boys know that I am invested in this as much as possible. And, yeah, I might have lost my cool a little bit, but I do regret it even though I still think that it shouldn't have been called,

which I respect and I appreciate. We will chat about that and everything else happening around the sports world. We got P.K. Subban joining us in 28 minutes, he's a 13-year NHL vet. He covers the NHL for ESPN. He's a stud. Dog. He comes in here and cuts promos. Yeah.

You know what I mean? He's doing it for hockey. And speaking of hockey, tonight, Conor Bedard and Conor McDavid are playing against each other. Wow. If you don't know hockey, you don't know what that means. Basically, the two young, electrifying hockey players are going to be on the ice at the same time in a city that none of us know where it is.

Nope. Okay, this game's on at 10 o'clock Eastern because Edmonton, we do know, is on the left part of Canada. That's a specific time. So it's 10 o'clock at night, Edmonton Oilers, Chicago Blackhawks. This guy, number one overall pick, has been deemed the next one. That guy over there has been dazzling on skates in the NHL for a while. Can they win the big one?

No. That's what everybody asks about. We'll talk to P.K. Subban about that. And also, everything happening in hockey. Who's going to win all this year, P.K.? Boston. Aaron Rodgers joins us today.

Obviously, massive win for the Jets. What do you see out of Zach Wilson? And also, what are his thoughts on the entire NFL? More specifically, where guys line up on plays that could potentially go on to be one of the greatest plays of all time. And then in the third hour on YouTube and ESPN+. By the way, we're a very big ESPN+. Really? We should almost start saying

that's our... Actually. I think we're the biggest show that ESPN has ever had. Okay. So we should maybe start... Who would have thought? As kings of ESPN+. Okay, there it is. Okay, now we're not comparing UFC and events again. That doesn't count. Dana could potentially say, I understand they could do that.

But as the daily show king of ESPN Plus, today we got a treat for ESPN Plus. And obviously for YouTube, our home, our family, our original place that we always have it. Matt Rule will be joining us. Head coach in Nebraska. Yeah. Matt Rule will be joining us. Head coach in Nebraska. Yeah. Matt Rule obviously was a coach for Temple. Did very well. Baylor did very well.

So well that David Tepper said, hey, I need you in Carolina. Gave him a $70 million deal. It was a huge ordeal. It did not work out. Is anybody going to work out in Carolina? I guess that is kind of the question. Now he's back in college at Nebraska building. His program is in the middle of

some heavy recruiting and changing potentially the future of the Big Ten. But also, what we have referenced him numerous times is because at a press conference, as a man just got back into college football after having a lot of success in college football, he said, you know, a good quarterback costs you a million, million, half, two million, just so we're all...

And then he moves on and then he sees one person's reaction. He's like, yeah, that's the work. This is the press conference that Matt Rule had just a couple weeks ago describing the state of college football, the transfer portal, and where it's at right now. Make no mistake that a good quarterback in the portal costs, you know, $1 million to $1.5 million to $2 million right now. So just one and the same page, right?

So let's make sure we all understand what's happening. Yeah, it's all. You know, there's some teams that have six or seven million dollar players playing for them. He made eye contact with somebody that was like, yeah, just so we're all in the understanding. What else does he know? Probably a lot.

We're going to ask him. A bunch. And how excited is he to be back in college where he absolutely dominated after doing some hard time potentially to Carolina Panthers? We will chat with him with that. We have a great show. I'm excited to be here in college where he absolutely dominated after doing some hard time, potentially, to Carolina Panthers? We will chat with him with that. We have a great show. I'm excited to be here. And we also have some special guests.

It's not the talk table at Boss of Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Although the strength of the pack or strength of the wolf is the strength of the pack. That's why you're wearing that shirt today. Yeah, the strength of the pack is the wolf. Actually, there's 10 wolves on here. Most of them are hidden kind of in the rocks, if you will, so you kind of have to find it. How many triangles are in the photo in front of you? Bingo, it's one of those.

So yeah, it's a nice one, but yeah, I figured you know, might as well start off with some wolves. Got some other wolf shirts later on, but I mean, last night, there were a lot of wolves out there playing football, huh? Yeah, one of them super Italian. Speaking of, one half of the Hammer Cowboys, Anthony DiGiulio, I have a question

for you. How do you feel about what Tommy DeVito is doing for the state of Italians across the country? I don't think there has been one mafioso or racketeering arrest since Tommy DeVito has started doing his thing for the New York football Giants. Tommy DeVito is

doing for Italian-Americans what Joe Montana did for Italian-Americans. Joe Montana, Tommy DeVito. We got the new Brock Purdy supposed to be the new Joe Montana. Potentially with some stats. And now we got the new Italian-American doing his thing for football and for Italians in America. Yeah, I mean, what Tommy DeVito is doing is awesome. I mean, he's got better, if not the same, numbers of Patrick Mahomes.

So is he the next Patrick Mahomes, too? I don't know. I thought that should have been some gabagool or prosciutto on that hoodie there, but that's fine. His agent said, don't worry. I'll come in and look the most Italian any human has ever looked in the history of humans in the United States of America. The size of the Italian horn that his agent

was wearing in the stands. He didn't have it on the field when he was on the phone. I don't know if that was a fake phone call or a real phone call or not real. That was a full gaze. For sure. I figured my host is calling him right now. Hey, we do a little gabagoo. The size of the Italian horn was obnoxious.

Diesel. It's a three-inch Italian horn.orde elephant tusk kiss me kiss me mr david and then the owner of davido plumbing by the way tommy davido's dad we believe from our internet sleuthing owns a plumbing company yep and their marketing photo at the top of their social media pages is actually two of their plumbers dressed up like mario and luigi do remember mario and luigi were both plumbers that up like Mario and Luigi. Because if you do remember, Mario and Luigi were both plumbers. That is how the entire thing, that's why they go down in the pipe and everything like that.

This is an Italian story that I could have never seen coming. And shout out to DeVito playing great football. Great football. You know, you think about guys like Taylor Heineke and Mike White and other backups that are able to galvanize and rally the troops. And for whatever reason, the guys just like them and seem to play for them. And understand that, hey, this guy might miss a throw 7-10 yards. There's a chance he makes a bad decision.

I might get open as a wide receiver, and he might not hit me. But the expectation isn't that he should. The expectation is like, hey, Tommy DeVito is going to lead us to a game today. And he did on the ground. He did through the sky obviously his parents gabagool energy coming from the stands was radiating through the entire team saquon barkley is running wild out there it was a beautiful thing to watch over there in new jersey where i believe 70 million that's right. Could you imagine a better fit for a team than Tommy Davide, who almost scores right there,

obviously gets tackled by Juan Dale, who had a huge night for the New York football Giants. But this guy sparked something. And you literally think, and there was conversations, how come the Giants are better with Tommy Davide than they are with Dale Jones? This was a dead football team with Dan Jones. How come everybody seems to be a little bit happier?

How come the head coach, Dayball, is coming out of his shell and he's happy in his press conference? He's like, do I need to tell Tommy DeVito to relax? No. Every once in a while I need to tell him, hey, we're going to spin us. This is Dayball talking about his relationship with Tommy DeVito. You don't think this guy loves DeVito? You don't think he loves Paisano? Listen to Dayball talk afterwards his relationship with Tommy D. You don't think this guy loves Davido? You don't think he loves Paisano?

Listen to Dayball talk afterwards. What was the conversation like with Tommy on the last drive, trying to keep his composure and stuff? Yeah, you don't have to worry about that. He keeps his composure. There was really nothing. Here's a couple plays we like. Go out there and rip that son of a bitch.

I love that. I think we're potentially to blame for some of these answers that have been given. In these answers, people are a little bit more relaxed, and I appreciate that. I think we're learning more about the humans that actually put the football on the field and the ones that piece it together. But him just, you can see he admires Tommy DeVito. You don't have to worry about his. This guy's okay.

Have you seen him? He is A-okay. He walked in here in a pink fur. I think he is A-okay in that entire thing. And then letting him rip, it's like there's probably moments where Daybo in the offense coordinator in the headset is like, hey, Tommy DeVito, you're better than Tom Brady. Remember that.

Fire it. Remember that. And then it cuts off, and then they're throwing aside like, you're really good, DeVito. Do your thing. Because all they've got to do is build his confidence, and if he continues to do what he's doing, why not the Giants looking

ahead with Paisano, a quarterback? We obviously have a Giants diehard fan, a coastal elitist here who's non-Italian. Bruce Brown, I see you're wearing the Giants hat. Haven't seen that in a long time. You know, a lot of Michigan hat. Got the Giants hat back on. Is this the DeVito effect happening out here?

Yeah, it is full on. I haven't seen the city tri-state area captured like this since Lynn Sanity back in the day. It is full on DeVito mania. He has injected swag and confidence into that offense, into that locker room. You know, it's an absolute blast. Now we're one game out of the wild card. Who knows? Who knows?

Hey, Daybo has proven to have success. Wink Martindale has proven to have success. That's why whenever they stunk, it was like, what is wrong with this team? They're paying a quarterback $40 million, and it's not this one. No. You know what I mean? It's not this one. Tommy Cutlets.

Hey, Tommy Cutlets. Interesting name. Yeah. I don't know how he got to that. I think he loves chicken cutlets or pork cutlets or something. Yeah, sure. I guess Saquon gave him the full Tommy Cutlets nickname is what we're saying. They could have really went with that one a little bit further.

Those cutlets right there. You know what I mean? A little bit further Italian on that. Because Tommy is a good setup. Oh, yeah. Perfect. And there's so many. Tommy Breadsticks.

Yep. Yeah. Tommy Ravioli. Tommy Bolognese. Oh, my God. Tommy Gabag setup. Perfect. And there's so many. Tommy Breadsticks. Tommy Ravioli. Tommy Bolognese. Oh my god. Tommy Garbagool. There's just so many that it could have been. Tommy Cutlets, we love. We're a big fan. Everyone loves Cutlets.

The Paisan agent, way to go, pal. Doing it. Way to go. On his Twitter account, I guess he has a certificate from the Italian club up in Boston. That's a big deal, too. That's not any club. That's a huge deal. Sean Stilato up there.

Blessed to be honored by the Boston Italian consulate. Thanks, Arnaldo Menuti, for the recognition. Legend. Clean fit. He does seem to always dress well. It's a phenomenal story. In New Jersey. it's just like so perfect happy for the giants and uh on the flip side let's go to our super experts obviously uh

nine-year nfl vet hosted a man-to-man podcast and everything db derrish jay bothers here he bought you look super cool and also 12-year nfl vet super bowl champion jackie moon uh down there at tampa bay buaneers, player coach. He wasn't the owner, but maybe one day. Ladies and gentlemen, hosting the trenches, A.K. Shipley. A.K. Before we ask Ty Schmidt, I want to ask you this question because Ty is going to have a different reaction, I think,

than maybe you would because he is invested in the Green Bay Packers. We've been riding this wave with the Green Bay Packers, and the wave has been very good as of late. We're talking about barrels, I think is what they call those waves. We've been riding a good wave with these Packers over the last

four or five weeks. Here we go. This team is hot. Jordan Love has found it. LaFleur has figured it out. Now, no Christian Watson last night knew that was going to be a conversation piece because he takes the top off it. Defense has to respect it. But the defense have been playing good. They've got like nine number ones on that particular field.

The Packers, oh, look out. Going. NFC North. Now they can still do that. They lose to the Giants, though, on prime time. Do we need to worry about this Green Bay Packers team? Jordan Love didn't have his best game. But just like one week ago today, Aaron Rodgers said like, hey, you know, maybe just let a guy play instead of just every week saying,

yup, he can replace Aaron Rodgers. Nope, he can't replace Aaron Rodgers. Today, big conversation, nope, he's not going to be able to do it because of what he did last night. Is that fair? Is that real? And what do you see from this Packers team, AQ Shipley? I texted Ty the other day, and I said, listen, Jordan Love, he's going. He's going exactly where we all thought.

But when you see this, we instantly overreact every week. As soon as a game happens, it's like, hey, listen, they stink. They're dead. No, that's not the case. No, we don't do that. Every week, everybody. We're very calm. Yeah.

Very, very calm. But listen, he's playing with an offensive line that's makeshift, right? They don't have their left tackle who they were counting on for years. I mean, he's one of the best in the game when he plays, right? They don't have a bunch of guys. He's missing a receiver, and the defense has given up a ton of points. He did throw a terrible interception yesterday, which I think we all can agree on.

Slipped out of his hand, right? Slipped out of his hand. That must have been it. And then they give the ball to A.J. Dillon. He's hammering it, and they stop giving him the ball. So there's a lot of things going on. Don't know what happened, but we might want to worry a little bit. Okay.

I appreciate the fact that in the end you said everybody overreacts, but now you are worrying as well. That ball just slipped out of his hand. I don't think he knew exactly what was going to happen. It was a good pick. Darius, whenever you watch this Packers team, and we'll move to the Titans-Dolphins for sure, but whenever you watch this Packers team, they have

like a read was electric. You know what I mean? Now he's getting a ball going uh east west every single time he gets it it seems like in the matliff floor offense and they're rolling and he great ball spin here at the end too just oh i guess they cut it off but his ball spin was very chill kind of like how brandon aubrey kicks like very relaxing and a ball just goes he just casually went like that and the ball was very tight. Cyclone.

Yeah, that means he's worked on that, which I appreciate. Anybody that's working on celebrations has great confidence, which I enjoy. The Packers team, are they the ones in the NFC North after what we've seen the Lions do the last couple weeks? Remember, Packers just beat the Lions. They literally just beat the Lions. Definitely wouldn't say they're the ones in the NFC North.

Maybe the next two, three years, they're just a young team. AQ mentioned it, makeshift offensive line, who's played decent this year, banged up running back room. A.J. Dillon was gone last night. But just a lot of youth when you look at the pass catchers and obviously the guy throwing the ball as well with Jordan Love. 25 years old, been in the league for a while, but this is really his first year. So you're going to have these hiccups. He was on a great three-week stretch in late November, December,

when teams kind of start becoming who they are. But I'm not worried about him long-term. This year, I don't think they make a run. Everybody's still in it right now. Everyone's still alive, even the Giants. Great feel-good story. The NFL, we love a storyline. We love what's going on with his family.

We had the Pasternak earlier this year. We had probably another story. Where you going? He's not a gimm had the Pasternak earlier this year. We had probably another story. Where you going? Where you going? He's not a gimmick. No, he's passing points on. He's Tommy Cutler. He's hard to play games in the NFL.

He's Joe Montana. He is. He is. He is. That's a great guy. 70-70 on the ground. You know, three wins in a row for him. So, like I said, great story right now.

Saquon, he got going late in the game. Had some big runs. You know, Turf Monster got had some big runs you know turf monster got him he you know gave up all tried to give the packers a chance um honestly two good football games last night surprisingly agreed let's go back to the packers ty the now you this morning vastly different than you last week okay last week remember how high riding high yeah last two weeks oh my after thanksgiving it has been all smiles. We got the guy.

Still do. We got the guy. You got people all over the place saying, hey, we got the guy. People are attacking me because they got the guy. Gutekun's got the guy. You agree with D-Butt? You need to be a little patient, okay? Listen, we got two, three years to make this work.

It isn't just about winning the Super Bowl this year. It's not just about trying to figure it out this year. We got two, three years. So for the Packers fans, let's just relax on this wave. You know what I mean? We don't need to be up and then down and then up and then down. This is a two, three year project anyways. We all knew that whenever Jordan Love came in.

Right? Yeah, I'm not worried about Jordan Love. Okay! That's good in, right? Yeah, I'm not worried about Jordan Love. Okay, that's good news. Going into yesterday, I told Bruce, I think I told Connor too, I was like, Packers are going to get beat. After beating the Chiefs and beating the Lions, this just seems like a young team. Like, hey, we can just show up and we're going to win.

We're playing so well. It just felt like the kind of game, especially with the passing Paisano and everything he's got going. It just felt like something that could go wrong potentially would, but four times this year, the Packers' offenses went down and scored in the fourth quarter, and

Jordan Love, yeah, he didn't play great last night, but again, he puts them in position to win the game. Anders Carlsen missed a field goal early, which they could have used. But stop me if you've heard this before. The Packers' defense can't stop the goddamn run at all. Again, they give up over 200 yards rushing. Tommy DeVito, yeah, he's great.

I watched him play at Illinois and Syracuse, so I've seen him play a bunch. They made him look like Joe Montana mixed with Michael Vick mixed with Colin Kaepernick last night. I just don't understand. I don't know how inconsistent you can be week in, week out. I guess it was a little Colin Kaepernick there. Is that what you were talking about?

Kaepernick used to just chew up the Packers in the playoffs every year. Like, hey, you've got a good Packers team this year. What's going to happen? Colin Kaepernick's going to throw for 325 yards, and he's going to rush for 125. That happened about six years in a row, it felt like. But it just, like, they haven't been able to stop the run in, like, seven years. Like, really, like, since A.J. was, like, 23 years old.

So, at some point, like, I understand the defense has been much better as of late. But, like, in, I, but you watch that final drive. There was never – the Giants, it took them three plays to get into field goal range. It was just ridiculous. You got an undrafted third-string quarterback playing. They didn't get a sack all night. Everyone's been saying Tommy DeVito's been sacked 100 times

in the last four weeks. Didn't get any pressure on him all night. In the grand scheme of things, no, I'm not worried. They're still in that last wild card spot. But for having everything in front of them and being able to kind of potentially go ahead and win the division with everything that kind of shook out this weekend and for them to just shit the bed like this.

And for Randy Bullitt to come through and bury one. So it's disheartening. Oh, 4'6 out there? He looks good. He looks fit. He looks yoked in that. Stank. They're putting him in linebacker.

Yeah, deep butt. What are you talking about? 46. I mean, he made the kick. That's all that matters. He's as jacked as a linebacker. Why the giant had to give him 46? He's in year, like, 10 or 11.

I love those jerseys. I was about to say, giants should always be in those jerseys. Laces Jack Dizaline. By the time I had to give him 40. He's in the year like 10 or 11. I love those jerseys. I was about to say, Giants should always be in those jerseys. Laces straight back. Scottish hammer. Twist it. That's a great hold. You know, Randy missed one earlier. Pushed that thing right this time.

We knew Randy Bullock year 12 maybe. I don't know what year this is for him. Wearing 46 in year 12 is. Weapon. You need to command a little bit more respect. Yeah. In the equipment room potentially. But maybe he wants.

It looks cool. I think it looks. Yes. More kickers need to command a little bit more respect in the equipment room potentially, but maybe he wants – it looks cool. I think it looks – Yes, more kickers need to wear 40s. I wore 40 in college. I wore 40 in college because, like, I was a freshman kicker at West Virginia. Sure. They just – here's 40. And then they were going to – they asked me if I wanted to change after my freshman year, and I said, no, I'll keep the –

Hell, yeah. You know, my GPA, my favorite drink. Let's go ahead and do this whole thing. But professional guys wearing 40s, unless he's going to play linebacker, which we don't know. He might be. Randy Bullock might step in. They might have a swarm dime package that they might put Randy on the edge.

The New Jersey rules kind of mess you guys up. Yeah, because you guys are just plucking them. Yeah, you guys are that great pick. You and the quarterbacks get all the single digits, all the low numbers. Now you got Thibodeau out there with five and other guys with these low numbers, but yeah, that 4-6. I'd do something about that. It doesn't matter. He hit a game winner. That's all that matters. Congrats to him

and Packers fans got a tough one coming up, right? I mean, how's the rest of the season? No, so that was the thing. The remaining schedule is very easy and this was one of those games where it's like, hey, take care of business against the Giants and then maybe a team like the remaining schedule is very easy and but this was that this was one of those games where it's like hey take care of business against the giants and then maybe like a team like the bucks who again are pretty inconsistent but are right there they have a bunch to play for still so we'll see i mean i don't know i i'm not panicking yet but you look at that nfc playoff picture it's

like every team is still in it every team has has something to play for. So there's really not any layups left on the schedule. Like, yeah, it's favorable. But, boy, they needed that one last night. And they didn't deserve to win, but to be in the position they were in and then to poop the bed, it just stinks. Okay, let's go to the AFC side now. There's a new conversation at the top in there. You know, the Eagles lose to the Dallas Cowboys,

and now all of a sudden the Eagles aren't even in the conversation to be at the top of the NFC. You know what I mean? Just get them out there. Now, AFC side, Dolphins lose to the Titans, and everybody's like, this Dolphins team's fake! They lose to the sorry-ass Titans on primetime in Miami

in the beautiful weather down there. That's all of a sudden the reaction is like, alright, Dolphins are dead now. Who else in the AFC is potentially going to be able to get there? Gumpy, I don't love that this is happening to your program and your team, but there's been a lot of things said this morning all of a sudden

about why your team could potentially not make it to the Super Bowl. And I think the big one is the injuries to the offensive line. That is a massive ordeal, especially when you operate on timing and Tua is mostly inside the pocket. I don't think that has really been a spotlighted convo until something like this happens.

So where are you feeling? How are you feeling? And have you given up all hope because all the things that have been said this morning about your program on the Miami Dolphins making it to the Super Bowl? I have not given up all hope, but I am down bad. Okay. The way that we lost is the biggest issue. He's bummed out. I am so bummed out.

Jerome Baker and Javon Holland both, oh, those are the mics on the defense. I don't know how they let them march down the field. It felt like 30 seconds. It's just the way they lost is the biggest issue for me. They had that game, but they didn't play well

the whole game. The Titans handed them 14 points to even be up at the end of the game. Now, just to be clear, and I talked about this on first take, which it was an honor to be on there. Shannon Sharp, number one, most entertaining human, I think, by complex. Okay. And then Stephen A, number two, most entertaining human. Wow. And I got a chance to be

in there and chit chat with them but they asked about you know this miami dolphins team and you heard a lot of you know internet chatter is like tua can't operate without tyreek hill it's like uh yeah the whole offense is vastly different when you have a actual cheetah on the field versus agent zero running the same things that Tyreek Hill would normally do. They put Berrios in there to do the motions and the late shifts and the distraction and the eye candy. And no offense to Berrios at all.

I don't think the linebackers and safeties and everybody is watching Berrios as intently as they'd be watching Tyreek Hill. So whenever you lose him, now, seems like he got played. Yeah, did he? I'm not 100% sure. He wasn't going to, and then he texted his wife. The ending of the game, they put him out there to return the kick, and then he didn't play on first and second down.

So, like, what happened? And if he even went back in, like third quarter he goes back in and it's like, well the whole first half we saw him with a towel. He had like a toe tap catch where he burned everybody. And then he sprinted back to the huddle. It was like, and he was bouncing around. It's like, yeah, that's Tyreek Hill. Tyreek Hill is

one of the most durable guys in the history of the NFL. There's a lot of things that happen to him where he remains healthy and it's like, damn, a guy that explosive, that powerful, is supposed to have a muscle injury somewhere. At some point, he's supposed to have some strain in a groin because he's running 24 miles an hour and he's stopping

or a shin or a hammy or something and he's always up. He's always good. So last night, watching him stand up after that ankle injury underneath the body, hip drop tackle. Of course. It's a combo. Hip drop horse collar. Horse collar hip drop. Oh, okay.

Horse collar already illegal. Yeah. Hip drop. Dropping your body weight as you're trying to tackle a human in the NFL. No place for that. That is, you sound dumb. Just, you know, that just needs to be, you sound dumb whenever you say that. You're talking to, just go try to tackle a human.

Yeah. Just one time. Just see what happens in there. But that looked bad. It was like, ooh. A terrible, yeah. And then he jogs off the field and then for whatever reason doesn't go into the blue tent. And then he's just standing there.

Yeah. And it's like, okay, trainer's holding his helmet. Okay. So he's just hanging. He's decided what's going – and then McDaniels comes out, and he's been very forthright in saying, we want our guys to be 100% healthy before they get back in. But then he goes back in in the third quarter. And then in the fourth quarter, he's returning a kick.

It's like, what? Because their offense goes through Tyreek. Even if he's not getting the ball, the offense goes through him. His motions are changing every single play that is happening, even if it's a run game, which Mostert was doing his boys were out and waddle did great stuff it's like yeah two is going to look a little different when that guy's not on the field when he is the point of that entire offense i didn't make much sense to me no obviously i think they win that game he plays all four quarters it's a different ball game instead they lose to the titans now everybody's worried

d but i know dolphins are a team you've been a fan of the longest. Absolutely. What are your thoughts on the game? That Tyreek Hill situation was wild. I didn't understand anything that was going on. Very, very wild. He had the heavy spat on it, then he took the spat off. Then he said he came back in the game on his own.

Nobody's sitting in the back end. It was just a super weird situation. But to echo Gump, one of the worst losses I've ever seen. Titans had a good game plan defensively. Just basically you want to keep the umbrella over, make them go the long, hard way. Obviously Tyreek getting hurt helped that, but they executed their game plan.

Had 14 points basically given to us. Had a pick six on the drive right after, you know, Tua had the fumble, bad snap. He tries to get it up, stand in the pocket, get stripped. It was just bad all around. Bad clock management. I feel like then games on the line, we give. It was just bad all around. Bad clock management, I feel like, then. Game's on the line.

We give up a sack. Harold Landry had a great game. Three sacks, two in the fourth quarter. Just bad, bad ball. Defensively, you know, great players. Obviously, a great defensive coordinator. Gump mentioned the guys that were missing, but Will Levis just rolled down the field. First two-minute drive, just walked it down.

No time out. You're welcome, America. Walked it down. He had welcome, America. Walked it down. He had an unbelievable game. Absolute maniac. Love watching a young kid play. But terrible, terrible loss for the Dolphins. Yeah, Will Levis attempted to tackle a de-tackle on a pick six

with his shoulder on the goal line. Very cool. Guy's definitely scoring a touchdown. Let me just go ahead and throw my body and face right into this guy. Love it. Yeah. And then he got into open field, and he saw Jalen Ramsey. He said, yeah, I'm going to try to run right through this guy.

Yep. Him and Derrick Henry on the same team is a problem. Oh, yeah. He's a problem. We've seen Will Levis jocked up. His interview postgame was fantastic. Yes. He said, are you not entertained, America?

I can't wait to watch the Hard Knocks. He is everything that we thought he was going to be. And congrats to Vrabes, who at one point last night looked at his punt returner and he said, I don't give a – what are you muffing punts for? What are we – I saw a bounce. I tried to stop. I don't – what are you – that's the most Ohio look I've ever seen. Yeah.

The hands up. I'm so disrespected that you even said what you just said. You might as well have just kept your mouth shut. You might as well have not said anything right there. I don't want to hear it. I'm asking disrespected that you even said what you just said. You might as well have just kept your mouth shut. You might as well have not said anything right there. I don't want to hear it. I'm asking you a question. Don't need to hear an answer. At all.

Okay? This is not a – you could easily say, sorry, Coach, and then we're done with this whole thing. I like that Vrabes is still coaching as intently as he is. I like that Vrabes is still as focused as he is. And I like that Vrabes' team showed up for him. EHOP had a big game. Huge.

Obviously, defense was doing their thing. And they get a huge win in Miami that they were not 14-point dogs. That is not normal. And week 14 of the NFL season to figure it out, yeah. So, unfortunately, saw that one coming. But Vrabes, too, not a guy that I would expect to be the big analytics guy. At the end of the game, score, went for two. And then, obviously, on the the second touchdown just kicked the extra point

to take that one-point lead. So I love to see that. I like Fraib's too. A little evolution there. Yeah, he's an Ohio guy. Evolution's not normal over here. We talk to a barbarian every day. That's right.

You see his Cro-Magnum head. That's exactly right. It's the same thing. Fraib's pretty similar from what we've been told as a human, you know, old school, traditional. But, yeah, down 14, you go for two the first time you score because if you don't get it, you can go for two again the next time. And odds say that you're at least better than 50% to get two yards in the NFL,

so it'll end up being time. But if you hit that first one, only need an extra point from Nick Falk who never misses. And then, boom, you win the game all of a time. But if you hit that first one, only need an extra point from Nick Falk, who never misses. And then, boom, you win the game all of a sudden. And they did just that. They executed perfectly. First time... What was it? Teams were 0-767

when trailing by 14 with three minutes or less to go. Wow. That's a lot. First time since 1976. That was a good year. Hey, that was a good win. It was. That was a good win. Hey, that was a good win. It was. That was a good win. Unbelievable. We'll get back to these games, obviously, for the rest of the program. And we also have the road to the number one seed for both the NFC and the AFC.

Miami's still very much in the conversation, even though everybody's throwing them to the side, because Derrick Henry, DeHoff, Will Levis, and the boys go and get a big win on Monday Night Football in Miami. The NFC side is getting a little crowded at the top. We'll check out who has the easiest road at some point. Have Aaron Rodgers in about 35 minutes. That should be fun.

The Jets are living the highest life that they have lived since he has been there outside of September 11th with him jogging on to the field. That was a big moment. That should be fun. But right now, ladies and gentlemen, it is time for a thing that has happened on this program, not enough this season, but certainly has been taking place for the last six years. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to shine a light on a sport that you have not watched

enough of. And the reason why I know that is because you go to a lot of these towns that don't have hockey teams, and you say, what are your thoughts on hockey? They say, I've never seen it. You need to see it. You need to watch it. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Hockey is Awesome! Listen, you've probably heard of this sport.

It's on ice. They're traveling like 30 miles an hour. They're doing death-defying stunts. People are actually in danger every single second they're on there. There's dangles. There's fights. There's toughness. There's intelligence. It's a perfect sport. It's a perfect mixture of everything that competition loves. And if you're not

watching it, you need to. This is what has happened since the last time we've done Hockey is Awesome. How about a goalie being a petty dog like Tristan Jari? He grabs Brandon Hagel's stick here. Look at that. Go back to him.

Sorry, I was standing right away. Grabs this guy's stick. Oh, you're about to fight, huh? Let me go ahead and bang it. That's $300. That is $300 just because he's petty. Give me that. Now, goalie's obviously known for a lot of things.

Stopping pucks. Right. Causing problems. Right. Not scoring. That is not something that happens ever. Tristan Jari, same game. Not only does he break Hagel's stick in the first period,

how about in the third period? He goes goal line to goal line for a goalie goal that is only half. Sick. Wow. Filthy. Nasty. How many perfect games has there been in the history of the MLB? Like 17.

Yeah, 15, 14, 17, whatever it is. I think there's only been like 14 goalies that have ever scored or 15 goalies that have ever scored in the history of the NHL. Tristan Jari has a petty night and a glorious night, all in the same night down there in Tampa Bay with a long goal from one goal line to the other. Tristan Jari, keep it going, pal. Keep going, Jari.

I need you to save some more pucks, baby, for the Pags. But I love that on nights you still got a little pettiness and you still got the talent to do your thing. Now, let's talk about what hockey has that other sports don't have. They have a little situation where if you want to disrespect one of our guys, we'll fight you. If you want to touch our goalie, don't even think about it. Immediate brawl happens every time.

This is a game of the Kachuks. Matt and Brady. Kachuk. They play on opposite sides. Their dad played. Their uncle played. Whole team brawling here. Okay, everybody, you touch our goalie.

We're down 4-0. It's the third period the boys are tight grandma kachuk's watching her grandsons good every day there's the kachuk right here by the way you see him that's uh brady i believe brady kachuk he's just mixing it up looking at face got a little blood on it then they'll cut to his brother here matt matt's already in there that's the he's in there. He's already in the sin bin probably for something. Everybody's brawling. Game's over. I mean, they could come and get it, but pretty much game's over. 30 shots to 19.

Seven left. Let's just go ahead and scrap. Let's just go ahead and scrap. Not a lot of sports have this anymore, and we need this. It's a good scrap. We need more of this. We need our team coming to fight your team. Why? Or Babu or Luis

and all said, don't touch our goalie. Don't you even think about doing that? So what's the aftermath of this, you ask? Well, let's go to the ref, shall we? Ottawa penalty number seven has two minutes for goaltender interference, two minutes for roughing. Florida number 12 has two minutes

for roughing and then every player on the ice has a 10-minute misconduct. Florida, number 12, has two minutes for roughing. And then every player on the ice has a 10-minute misconduct. Florida will have a two-minute power. So, we're going to have to check every... There's 10 guys... 12... Everybody. Everybody that was on the ice 10 minutes, you're out. Rest of the game.

It's 4-0. We got seven left. You know what you did. Okay, it's definitely both Kachuks. And get that grandma the hell out of the arena as well. Let's go in between the benches. Okay. Let's go in between the benches because this is something hockey has that is also awesome. Now, I know football has sideline reporters, and I assume baseball people have people down in the dugout and things like that.

In hockey, though, they have an actual person pretty much leaning over the boards with their head on the ice in between the bench. Here's every chirp that takes place between the two. Sometimes it gets a body in them. And then also, every once in a while, puck to the forehead while covering hockey. Here's Rob Ray. Rob Ray, former goon. Okay.

Former goon for this entire thing. They actually added, okay, a thing on the sweater that kept the jersey down. Yeah, it's him getting hit right in the face. Brutal. Boom, pock, forehead. Oh, looking down. Bomb right in the forehead. He gets busted up, obviously.

Rob Ray, this guy, former goon, they had to add something to the sweater that would keep it attached to the shorts because whenever he would fight, he would just take his shit off. He would just take his shit off and all of a sudden you got nothing to grab. Aren't we a little... Rob Ray's a G. Rob Ray's a dog. Rob Ray got hit in the face with a puck.

Here's his reaction to what took place in between the boards. I'm going to just check in on you, Rob. Yeah, you can check in. I'm all good down here, Dan. I'm just trying to clean my glasses up a little bit so I can put them on and see through them again.

It's like a cut-shake before we hit tomorrow. It will be, but that's fine. But I can't use my page anymore that I have my notes on because it's kind of littered in blood. Yeah, we're just going to keep that. It's a mess. Good to go. Normal guy would have been carried out of here.

Yeah, you're right, Rob. Normal guy. Any other sports would have got carried out of here. Probably going to need stitches. Let's go. Let's stay on the benches, though, shall we? Because we see the toughness and the grit, the fighting and everything, and we go, oh, look at how he's barbarian.

Somebody could. Oh, yeah. How about hockey doing good? Making the world a better place. Let's stay on the bench. Let's go to Philadelphia with the hockey is fighting cancer. Hockey fighting hockey. Hockey fights cancer.

They're fighting. It is Hockey Fights Cancer Month across the NHL. And the honoree tonight on the Flyers bench that is 9-year-old owen machika at only six months old by age three he had had over 20 surgeries and a year and a half of chemo he's even been diagnosed with a syndrome where it makes it more likely as he gets older that he will develop additional cancers he's the captain of his youth hockey club he's on the

bench for the first period tonight with the Flyers as the honorary team captain. And we'll show you even more of the experience that the Flyers have put on for Owen Machika a little bit later on. That's awesome. First of all, Owen Machika, you're a beast. And the coach that got the chair for him so he could sit up and see a little bit, he's like the meanest human in hockey. That's towards, so, you know, obviously

he has a softer side, especially whenever you hear the story of Owen Machika and he's a badass. But hockey, the NHL, wanted to make sure this kid had a good experience, live his dream, and also inspire the boys. He gave a speech pregame on that. They had those flyers ready to skate through a

damn wall. When was the last time? No offense. When was the last time the Flyers won a cup? Forever. Maybe Owen Machika needs to get on the ice for the Flyers. Because they haven't been good since. What was that goon squad they used to team? Broad Street Bullies. Yeah, okay.

All right, sweet. You guys get bullied now, Philly. Welcome to the Penguin State, Pennsylvania. Philadelphia Flyers. And last but not least, there's this young stallion who was drafted to the Chicago Blackhawks. And he's supposed to be the next one.

This guy's going to put the NHL right here. Right here on his back. If his first name was Zion, that would be the similar type of hype that they had in hockey that they would have had in uh basketball now zion has made some decisions off the court that has certainly led him down a different path this connor bedard kid as soon as he gets dropped into the nhl stud stallion yep look at this assist from last and now they're done four one late in the third so So people are, shake, sauce.

Oh, my God. Next. This dude is the guy. You watch him. He is the, not him. I mean, great goal. This guy, look at his pass. Up over his stick.

That's on purpose. That's saucy. Right to this, right on the tape. Right on the tape. Boom. He's special. Hockey special. And ladies and gentlemen gentlemen hockey is awesome

you need to get into it honestly you need to get into it if you're not i was very lucky to grow up in a hockey time of pittsburgh pennsylvania with the penguins being the greatest nhl franchise in the history but if you're not watching you need to and everything that we showcase i think is reasons why you should appreciate it. And it has stuff that other sports don't have. Speaking of, the man who's about to join us, 13-year NHL vet, other sports do not have anybody that is electrifying as this man, P.K. Subban. Yeah, P.K.

How are you, P? What's up, gang? Hey, P.K., how you doing, pal? How's the hockey season going? You look fantastic. Thank you, bro. Hey, PK, how you doing, pal? How's the hockey season going? You look fantastic. Thank you, bro. Hockey season's going well. I can't wait to get started.

I'm looking forward to the second half. You know, more meaningful hockey, but we got a big game tonight. The hockey's been great for the first half. No complaints. Where are you at? Connor Bedard and Connor McDavid play tonight at 10 p.m. Eastern over there in Edmonton. Two stars.

I think, yeah, something's going on with the camera. Hey, that camera's trying to check you out of there. What's that building behind you there? What's that building behind you there? That's not fake. That's really the Freedom Tower. That's right behind me here. This is where I live in Tribeca. So this is where I shoot

all my videos every day. So I had to give you guys the best view. Damn. Good for you. Hey, Pat, you know what? Hold on, Pat. PK's living. Good. Got the fur coat.

I'm coming on your show. I'm coming on your show. I got to tee myself up. I got to show the views. I got to put the cardigan on. Come on. All the gimmicks. I get it.

Hey, listen. I appreciate it. I respect it. We thank you for coming on. Let's talk about tonight's game. Conor Bedard, Conor McDavid, 10pm Eastern Time. If you don't know hockey, these two guys are certainly guys that you want to

watch because of how they play. How are their teams doing? These two teams going to be in it in the end, or what do we expect? What teams are we watching tonight? Well, you know, I'm going to get to McDavid. Let's start with Bedard. Bedard, first of all, has been absolutely amazing this season. You showed that assist.

You want to talk about getting your pants pulled down, backhand sauce, like 30-foot sauce pass over two sticks right on the tape for a tap-in to Murphy, who's not a big goal scorer. He's not an offensive defenseman. Like, look at him, find him through the seam. Like, no players at 18 in the league should be doing that, and that's the skill of the nhl right now but i said that he'd be somewhere between 20 to 30 goals 60 to 80 points which is a pretty

big gap but he's right on pace for that 23 points in 27 games 11 goals 12 assists he's having a great season and now you see him making plays like this. Nobody makes plays like this, guys, at 19 and 20 years old. His vision, his hockey IQ is off the charts. I'm looking forward to tonight because it seems that when he's playing against the league's best, he wants to elevate. He wants to be considered in that category, in that group. So I would expect nothing less. Listen, his team's 31st in the league.

This guy still must eat TV every night. That's why they got him. He's eighth in the TV, watch every night. That's why they got him. He's eighth in the Central Division. They stink. That's why they got him. That's why they got him. So I can't wait to watch this game. And with McDavid, listen, I'm disappointed with Edmonton.

Horrible start to the season. You get blown out in the opening game, ate nothing. I'm not happy with Edmonton. I think, no, they do stink. And they're 23rd in the league know they're 23rd in the league they're 23rd in the league but if it wasn't for conor mcdavid they'd be an afterthought like he's carried this team on his back he was 59th in scoring he's now eighth in scoring he's 11 points back from nikita kucherov i gotta be honest if he ends up leading the league and scoring which i think he's going to do, this might be one of the

most insane seasons I've ever seen. I mean, he was completely out of the mix. He's clawed his way back into it. And I actually think they could get into a wild card spot. They're five points back from Nashville now for a wild card spot. If they make it to the playoffs, we're talking about one of the best seasons

ever by an NHL player. If Connor McDavid's able to pull that off. And Edmonton's hot right now, too. So we're talking about one of the best seasons ever by an NHL player. If Connor McDavid's able to pull that off. And Edmonton's hot right now, too, so we're talking about one of the greatest seasons of all time for a guy. Hey, he is a fun guy to watch play hockey. Connor Bedard and McDavid both very fun to watch what they're able to do, seemingly different than

everybody else. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, PK, something you did earlier in the year with Bucci was the NHL Frozen Frenzy, and we all absolutely loved it. What were the reviews on that? What was the feedback you kind of got, and do you think that is something that we're going to get more of as the games get more and more important the closer we get to April?

Well, I loved it. I loved it. I thought it was great. I was so happy that the NHL now has tried to do different things to elevate the game and create a better experience for the fans. You know, I still, I don't care what anybody does on TV. I still think that you need to go get inside the building and watch the game live. I mean, it's the best game to watch live. You know, I've had some people argue that tennis is more exciting. I don't think so. Don't talk to those people. Don't talk to those people. Hey, don't talk to those people.

Exactly. I'm like, guys, what are you talking about? I love going to the U.S. Open, but there's nothing compared to watching hockey live. So I love the frozen frenzy. It's just going to be tough to do with the scheduling. It's tough. I wish they could do that every weekend, but

they can't do that, obviously. So I hope the NHL is able to figure out a way to bring that element more to every season. So I love it. I think it's going to be great if they can continue to do it. They've got to make it work with the schedule. I've never been to a tennis match in my life. Nope. I've watched it

at home, though. It is electrifying. Jokers playing. Yeah, I guess. You've got to dress up, though, right? You've got to do the whole thing. The whole song and dance. Yeah, the guess. You got to dress up, though, right? You got to do the whole thing, the whole song and dance. Collar shirt. Yeah, the whole. And then. To a 10? You can't be wearing a sweater.

Yeah. This is what you're doing, right? Yeah. And then some of this. Right? Isn't that what you're. Golf clap, kind of. People are saying that's better than hockey game?

Allegedly, that's what they're telling PK. PK, those people are. Like, I don't like. You're running in the wrong circle. People that I don't know. Those people are dumb. They probably have very powerful jobs too with how America works, but, like, those people are dumb right there, PK. Well, Pat, Pat, this was over a conversation with some sports people.

It was kind of a beer summit. It was kind of a beer summit. I was having some tequila, so I don't know what they were drinking, but obviously they weren't drinking something that has their brain functioning too well, because I don't think it's even in the same category. Hockey's the number one sport to watch live.

Period. I think I'd agree. You get a playoff hockey game, you get to go to one. The atmosphere is absurd. It's a gladiator type feeling in it, because you're sitting on top of the ice with the way it is built. And then just the speed and how everything matters, certainly. Football, I mean, if you get a good football game.

My God. I mean, that is phenomenal. You want to lose UFC fights, box? You know what I'm saying? You get like a good one. That Jacksonville one, the first one they had back where there were four knockouts. Come on. Hold on, Pat, though.

I'm just trying to see where it's at. You can literally be up against the glass. You can be five rows back from the action, and you're right there. Agreed. With football, you're a little bit further removed from the field, so you're not as close to the action. Basketball, yes, but to me, basketball doesn't bring it full circle.

I like the physicality of hockey. Masters playoff. You know, I think it full circle. I like the physicality of hockey. Masters. Playoff. You know, I think it's hockey for sure. The physicality. Yeah, I agree. Tennis, though, I haven't found a spot in the top. I'm still.

That's below golf for sure. Like pickleball is tough to watch. Oh, pickleball. Yeah. But I think that would even be. Formula One. I think McEnroe put NHL. Formula One is below tennis.

So that is. It's below. That is certainly. Below reading aL. Formula One is below tennis. It's below everything. That is certainly below tennis. I'd like to say boxing, but I don't think what I'm seeing on TV is boxing anymore. I'm sorry. I see more dancing around in the ring than I see guys actually brawling it out. Every once in a while, I see a fight. I love boxing. I love Mike Tyson.

I was at the Rangers game the other in a while, I see a fight. I love boxing. I love Mike Tyson. I was at the Rangers game the other night. I got to see Iron Mike. Biggest fan of Mike Tyson. But I loved watching that era. And I was like a little kid watching that era. But I love watching boxing during that time. Now I see guys dancing around in the ring. Can't have it.

It's going to be a rematch. Come on. Can't have it. We need Jake Paul to continue to save boxing. Francis Ngannou is going to save boxing, I think, actually, with how heavy his hands are. The UFC, though, you get a good UFC card. Oh, yeah. That's up there.

That's up there. Anyways, let's move. Let's continue to talk about hockey, the great sport, which is awesome. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, PK, anytime we talk about football, like going into a season, it's usually like, hey, yeah, there we talk about football, like going into a season, it's usually like, hey, you know, yeah, there's all these teams, but there's basically probably eight to ten teams who actually realistically have a shot to win a Super Bowl.

I think the same goes for basketball. But when it comes to the NHL, it seems like there is more parity kind of year in and year out. So outside of like the six to eight teams that kind of everyone's talking about and that are at the top of the standings like is there a possibility that this year come playoff time like will be there will be a team that no one's really talking about right now that has a legitimate shot to win the stanley cup well you're talking football and first of all i don't know if there's a team outside of my Cowboys. I think the Cowboys got to be the team that's taking a pass.

Come on, hold on. I got to slide that in there. Hey, we all love the Cowboys. Love them, yeah. Not everybody, but we here. It's a good football team. They got a Pittsburgher. They got a Yinzer coaching that team.

We love them. We love them down there. You know, okay, so if I'm going with a team with the outside chance, on the West you got Vegas, you got Colorado, you got Dallas. People that are considering Edmonton in that mix, I mean, that's a long shot. In the East for me, you got Vegas, obviously, to repeat. I think Dallas. I think Dallas in the West is a team you got to watch out for.

I think Colorado as well. Those two teams, the reason why, and everyone's going to say, oh, I don't know about Dallas, their defense, but they got Jake Ottinger, and with that goaltender, he's a top-five goaltender in the league. He can steal a series. And as long as they've added some offensive pieces, Matthew Shane has slid into that lineup, has done really, really well.

Tyler Sagan is back. Seems like he's healthy. Jamie Ben's back and healthy. They're a team you've got to watch out. They're fast, they're big, and they've got some experience. And Joe Pavelski is one of the best playoff players in the league. So they have the experience and the depth, and they have the goaltending. You've got

to be careful of them. Colorado, as long as Nathan McKinnon and Kale McCarr are healthy, those guys are up for their contenders no matter what. Those two are all world, so you've got to watch out for them. In the East, when I look at the East, the Rangers obviously are playing the best hockey that I've seen them play in a really long time.

Ten years it's been. I really believe the Rangers are going to have a shot to make it to the Cup Final this year. As a league, we need the Rangers in the mix. They bring so much to hockey. We want to see them there. That's okay. Right?

So I'm seeing the Rangers. The Leafs, for me, until they get some defense, I don't care how many games they win. They haven't won a ton of games in regulation. Everything's an overtime and three on three. They have that skill. I don't know if they're going to be able to do it in the playoffs with the defense that they have. They just lost Joseph

Wall, who's come in and kind of been a spark for them. I don't know if their defense is going to be able to hold up coming out of the East. So for me, I think the team that you've got to be careful of in the West is going to be Dallas. In the East, it's going to be Florida again. I know

everybody says this. They'll throw you into a dogfight. I still think Florida, Matthew Kachuk, I liked what they did last year. They're never going to be a team at the top of the standings, but they give everybody a hard time. You've got to look out for that. We like the Panthers. We appreciate the Panthers.

They are very, very kind. The Pittsburgh Penguins are going to win. Bruins only go to regular season. They're actually in first kind. The Pittsburgh Penguins are going to win it all. Bruins. I don't even know where we're at. Bruins only go to regular season. They're actually in first. Yeah, in the regular season. Bruins, I still don't think they're defense. I like their defense. Just like Toronto.

You got the same problem as Toronto. That's what we've been saying this whole time. They got some holes on their defense as far as I'm concerned. I don't know if they're going to pay some attention to that and make adjustments, but I still think they got some holes on their defense as far as I'm concerned. I don't know if they're going to pay some attention to that and make adjustments, but I still think they got some holes on their back end. I don't completely trust them. Me neither, PK. The only team I trust?

Pittsburgh Penguins. That's right. Las Vegas Golden Knights. Hell yeah, bro. Texas Hockey. Yeah, right. Is Madonna like something? Darius has a question for you. He's a big-time Florida Panthers fan. Yeah, long-time Florida Panthers fan. Kind of new to hockey as a whole, though, so I got a question for you. I's a big-time Florida Panthers fan. Yeah, long-time Florida Panthers fan. Kind of new to hockey as a whole, though, so I got a question for you. I know, like, in baseball, you had Otani and Mike Trout on the same team,

and they absolutely stunk. You talk about both Connors. Both of their teams absolutely stink right now. So, like, how many guys do you need to, like, actually compete? You know, in NBA basketball, you graph LeBron, Shaq. You're going to at least compete. How many guys on a hockey team do you need to at least compete for a championship, A, or just be competitive and make a playoff run, in your opinion?

You have no depth in the National Hockey League. If you don't have balance to your lineup, I'd almost say you have zero chance of winning because it's such a long road to get there. So you can have all the great – I mean, Toronto, if this was about skill and talent, Toronto would be in the Stanley Cup final every year. Like, they got top – they got a ton of depth up front on four. No defense. They're weak on the back end.

They have too many holes in the back end, and they haven't really been able to identify the goaltending issue there. So you need to have depth. You need to have a balance of experience. But more importantly, you need some luck too. It's such a long road. You need to have depth you need to have a balance of experience but more importantly you need some luck too it's such a long road you need to have a healthy team you need to be able to get into the playoffs you need to have guys hit their stride at the right time it's the hardest trophy to win in all professional sports i hate to say it but the road's so long it's so tough it's so grueling you look at vegas you look at colorado you look at those teams when they've won. Look at their lineups.

Look at their lineup from top to bottom. Look at their four lines. Look at their 16. Look at their goaltending. They're stacked, right? So when I look at the Rangers and their team, they got Jonathan Quick in that. Who's won three Stanley Cups. They got Shusterkin, who's the best goaltender probably in the world.

They got Trouba. They got Keiondre Miller. They got Shesterkin, who's the best goaltender probably in the world. They got Trouba. They got Keiondre Miller. They got Adam Fox. They got Gustafson, who, while Fox was out, was leading their team on the back end. Of course. Up front, I don't even have to talk about their forwards up front. Panarin's going to probably be up for MVP.

They got Lafreniere. They got a tremendous amount of depth. So you need depth in your lineup to get there. If you don't have it, you ain't winning. PK, you said a lot of really good things there. However. However. Pittsburgh, I don't think has enough depth to win.

Sorry. I hate to say it. I don't think they have the depth to win. You're saying a lot of terrible things here. Okay. And I'll refrain from the Lordo, Stanley, Lombardi conversation. You know, I will. Sure.

I will say but I think we should celebrate there was two black dudes talking hockey on ESPN yeah hey that was huge first ever part of history I'm sure he's probably been on a week see

before oh you're right call week see now that would be a triple box week see ain't better looking than me that's for sure Oh, you're right. Call Weeksie now. Weeksie ain't better looking than me. That's for sure. Hey, PK, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you for representing hockey so well. We can't wait to see the fallout from tonight.

Connor versus Connor in a magnificent battle of electricity in Edmonton, Canada. Where the hell is Edmonton? That's left. Yeah, we're going out west. It's not too far west from where I am in Ontario, but it's west. We're going west. Which one? Is Edmonton a thing? Is it a province? Alberta.

It's in Alberta, but at this time of the year, usually we call it Edmonton because of how cold it is. Oh! Near Manitoba. Where's Saskatoon? Is Saskatoon in the area? There we go. British Columbia. Right up the road.

Alberta. Saskatoon's not too far. It's a couple over to the right. Yeah, you can see Saskatoon there. I believe Saskatoon's in Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan. We appreciate the help. You know what, though? Hey, Pat, thank you for having me on, dude. I believe Saskatoon's in Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan. All right. We appreciate the help. You know what, though? Go ahead.

Hey, Pat, thank you for having me on, dude. Love watching your show. And keep doing what you're doing, man. I love watching your show. You're crushing it. One of the best on TV, if not the best. No, that's not true. Ladies and gentlemen, stop it.

Stop it. Ladies and gentlemen, NHL analyst for ESPN, P.K. Spann. P.K. Super high fashion with that fur with the thing. Oh, yeah. Great. I don't know if it was snowing in there or if he was just so jacked up that he was, thing. Oh, yeah. Great. I don't know if it was snowing in there or if he was just so jacked up.

Yeah. A little spittle. I'll get like that every once in a while when I start going. And with the game day lights, the way you shoot, I'm just spitting. Right on. I'm like, can't slow down. I'm sorry. I'm in the middle.

I don't know why it's happening right now, but I need to let it eat. BK is a lightning rod for hockey. Yes. They are very lucky that he does the hockey. For sure. How about you, D-Buck, get a little Florida Panthers shout-out? Yeah. Huh?

I got a little something over there for my captain, too. Yeah, the Panthers. Really? The Panthers sent a gift over here. We appreciate the Florida Panthers. They appreciate us chatting about them. Yeah, absolutely. Which is very cool.

It's happening. Football! It's happening. Last night, there was a doubleheader that took place on ESPN and ABC. It was electrifying from the first quarter all the way to the very end of the evening and about midnight or so. Now, there was a Manning cast that happened as well. Nate Bargetzi, clean comic, and his father did a magic trick. It crushed. It went over very well. It Bargetze, clean comic, and his father did a magic trick. It crushed. It went over very well. It was

a fantastic addition to the football world. We need more of that. The Talks Table is here. At Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer by Cowboys. Anthony DeGiulio is here. 12-year NFL vet A.Q.

Shipley is here. Is that a NFL vet A.Q. Shipley is here. Thank you. Is that a seal on your arm? It is. Okay, what's the foundation? I assume we're saying seals? It supports, there's a company called Ert. You know. Ert, Ert, right?

A lot of the proceeds go to the C4 Foundation, Charlie Keating, former Navy SEAL that passed. Okay. You need to elaborate. Yeah. Kind of tell the story here. Okay. You need to elaborate. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of tell the story here. If you're going to wear a Foundations hoodie on the show, there's a chance it might get brought up.

You know what I mean? If I look over there and I see a seal. Big fan of Navy SEALs. It's got a seal on it. Here we go. Okay. So we're not saving actual SEALs. Correct.

I didn't know if we were telling them, like, don't swim in this area because a whale's coming. Yeah. And boom. Boom. I'm going to boom you out of the sky. Can't we do both? It's Navy SEALs. Navy SEALs.

Oh, hell yeah. Okay. Troops, you serve. Hey, some bad mother. Bad. Tough weekend for them. All of them. Well, they lose the Army, especially on a goal line stand.

Yeah, yikes. Next time you see those Navy SEALs that you hang out with, tell them we said thank you. Yep. Cheers. Next time, beat Army. Yeah, especially tell them we said thank you. Cheers. Beat Army. Yeah, especially whenever I'm on an island.

That's not easy. You pick Pittsburgh. That's why you pick. And I agree with that pick. At a military game, I pick Pittsburgh. And we end up losing. That was USA kind of coming back at me. It's not just about one here. This is about all.

Yeah, that is what is all. And I apologize for getting that wrong, but it was great to see them. And shout out to you, Rock and the Seal hoodie. I believe you're going to basic training camp tomorrow? I'm going tomorrow. This guy's going to war camp, Fugaze. What? Have fun.

This guy's been training for this in that basement. Please make sure you get pictures. Are you getting a gun? They're giving you a gun? Oh, yeah. No way. Multiple guns. From what I saw, he is wearing full head-to-toe military gear.

I want to go with you. Flag jacket, helmet, night vision goggles. Jelly suit on out there? I mean, everything. Face paint. Night vision. You're going to live in the woods right now, stalk somebody out there, and maybe snipe them? You're going to be a— Who knows? Who knows what's going to happen? I don't know what all is going to happen, but it's going to live in the woods right now stalk somebody out there and maybe snipe them you're going to be who knows who knows what's going to happen i don't know what all is going to happen but it's going to be awesome you should see how much lotion he brought in his

bag to you know jerseys gurgling when he gets bored in the one computer one bottle of lotion oh okay it's a training camp mentality for you as he heads out into the woods for his fake war good luck out there tell the navy seals and then we appreciate them we'll them. Will do. This feels like a setup, doesn't it? You're going out there with a bunch of guys who pass through buds. Yep. Okay? Wow. And they swim in the ocean.

They're going to teach me. They're going to teach me for a whole day. Yeah. Okay. Yep. They're going to kill you. I'm never signing up for that. And you think I'm done?

Well, I'm just saying, what you're about to go through, because you're a football player, right? Remember? So you're a professional football player. Yeah. This is like I would maybe have a drink or two with professional wrestlers. Okay? In their mind, this isn't two friends.

This is professional wrestlers drinking, and then this is professional football player drinking. There's no introduction. No, but it's not like a cat. They are watching how much. They are watching. We are watching. There is a cat. They are watching how much. They are watching. We are watching. There is a. Yes, this is fun, but also like, and in this particular case, it's like professional football players, big tough guys, right?

Okay. Like there's that. I mean, they're good people, obviously. They serve their country. They're the toughest of all time. But I don't know. Are you the only non-Navy SEAL going out there? No, no, no.

There's a whole bunch. Okay. Don't worry. He's doing it with a bunch of MMA guys. And Jack Osborne. Professional fighter and Jack Osborne? Ozzy's son. Okay, you're good. I'll be above that. I watched him

grow. That's what I said. I watched him. If anybody was to be in trouble out there, I think it's potentially Jack Osborne. I said at least you're not going to be in last. Have you seen him lately? He is jacked. I saw him in an RV with his dad the last time I saw him. They were driving around, I think, like Antiquin or something like that. Yeah.

And I respect and appreciate him. I don't know if Jack Osborne. How'd he get in? I appreciate it. I do appreciate it. He's a dog. He is a dog. He's a dog.

I watched the way he grew up, though. It feels like there's a chance there's going to come a moment, push comes to shove out there. Jack Osborne will show up. How often do they do this? I think it's just once a dog. He's a dog. I watched the way he grew up, though. It feels like there's a chance there's going to come a moment, push comes to shove out there. Jack Osborne will show up. How often do they do this? I think it's just once a year. Okay. Ryan Bader got me into it.

Oh, okay. The guy that can wrestle anybody and has the cardio to go for 20 straight minutes. Yep. This is what you've been training for. That's it. Let's go, AQ. Here we go. Hey, you've got to represent professional football players.

You've got to represent for us. And former fat people. That's right. Also a big deal. Yeah, before after photos. You've got to represent for us. And former fat people. That's right. Also a big deal. Yeah, before after photos. You're the after photo. You're representing for everybody out there. Good luck. Nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. You said you want to go with him. Hell yeah.

Next year. What are we doing? We're fake killing things? We're putting puppets up? We're shooting them in the head? Yeah, I think targets. I think we're walking. We've got this. We're transitioning. Hey, you should show them Sean McDermott's motivational speech. Yeah, bingo. Before you guys go out on a mission, just see how it. Yeah.

See how it goes over? See how it starts the entire thing. Joining us now is a man who's in a, that's awesome though, by the way. That is awesome. We're kind of telling you you're dumb for doing this. Definitely. Sounds neat. You've been wrestling and fighting in a billionaire's basement all by yourself for a year now at this point.

For this moment. You've been letting Jay Glazer punch you in the face. Exactly. For this exact moment. You're prepared. You're ready. We appreciate you. Joining us now is a man who would also love, sounds like he's probably signing up for this as we speak.

He's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hall. Yay! Hey, kids going into the woods. You hear this? I mean, so, are you going to be carrying a boat with Jack Osborne? Because I think your height difference, maybe your difference in strength,

you might get a little frustrated with Jack. I don't think we're doing boats. I think we're just shooting. Hey, remember Jack's... Some long PT, maybe? Be careful. Do you have a full rundown, minute by minute, of what you're doing out there? I'm literally going into this blind, but I've seen some pictures. I've seen some videos. Thank you.

Hell yeah. Where? Where are you going? It's in North Carolina. Did they show you what happens? That's the best way to go into it. What are you talking about? Because you're going to worry about stuff, and you're like, oh, I've got to worry about

this. We've got a five-mile this. We've got to go. No, just go in there. Whatever's up next, just go and do it. All right. I it all right i hope they drop that's a great mentality right there you love swimming though you love water yeah i've actually never like a swimmer no you do love water you go out into the ocean oh yeah i go it's annoying you're like you go to a beach or whatever and i'm a look at the ocean guy, hang guy, AQ's in that water. We're talking all day.

Ow, nice. He is in that water, not scared. So good luck over there. Join us now as a guy who I would assume will crush the fake war thing he's going to. Oh, yeah. He's also quarterback for the New York Jets, don't look now, hottest team in the NFL. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, four-time NFL MVP, Ayahuasca

Dabbler, Aaron Rodgers. Books. I like that. AAQ, have you seen Deliverance? I have. Where are we going with this? Here it comes.

Be careful out there. That's what I'm saying. He's with some of the toughest people of all time. You know, those people, these guys, I assume, these guys see that bell, you know, and they're, like, not sleeping. They just got dropped into the deep ocean, swim all the way back. Then when you get back, lay at that terrible spot between the wave and the thing. With the logs.

And just sit there. And then we're going to actually get a hose, too, and add to it. And they could quit at any time. That's who you're going into the woods with. You know that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm ready for it.

Last place gets shot in the head. So be careful. John, like, was on the pass. There's a chance. Would you rather do that or go into darkness retreat? I'm going to that. Let's go. All right, then.

That one's physical. The darkness retreat is you're all here right yeah i should not be there with myself ever you know what i mean aaron yeah but you never know who you're going to encounter in the woods man never know who's going to be out there true hey when you were in that darkness retreat, there was no freak outs? No. Not one? Not one. There was some boredom. Some boredom set in for sure. But no freak outs.

What did you do to pass time? Contemplation. Modalities. Different modalities of contemplation? Yes. Wow. I think I used that properly. i feel like i've gotten much smarter see the issue would be if i went in there boy we'd start overthinking something and then we

gotta get out of here yeah i gotta fix that yeah i gotta go figure that whole thing out they don't let you out right or is there a bell like it is buds a bell no the door is open you can walk out whenever you want. Okay, all right. You can just walk out. By the way, what are you wearing today? Are you turning over a new leaf? Sam dressed you? What's going on?

So, interesting point about that, potentially. She might have bought this, but also 30 degrees and all tank tops are currently in a situation that are not wearable. Okay. A lot of, you know, whenever you buy $7 tank tops are currently in a situation they're not wearable. Whenever you buy $7 tank tops, there's a chance that they do fall apart, get stained with

deodorant. That's the big one. And then once that gets in there, it's a problem. So we're in a transition process of new tank tops, if that makes sense, Eric. You're saying you got scabies. I mean, man, I guess I should get tested what what is uh what what is uh maybe i mean there's a chance but my wife you know she bought

this whole i mean i don't know when the pants came in but yeah i feel real high fashion today i was on first take two got to dress like an adult on there because everybody's super suited but the tanks will be back no problem you got a turn to show the side of the jeans i think that's getting lost here boom high fashion tuxedo jeans wow tuxedo jeans tuxedo jeans and look at this shit look at this shit i got a zipper down here if you want to wear high tops kind of open that thing up if you want to wear low tops tighten it down you know what i mean i mean this is fashion i I should have went to Art Basil. Art

Basil down there in Miami. Let's talk about you. I'm sick of this. This is stupid. Good luck in war. Fake war. Sorry. Zach Wilson. Buddy. Holy hell. What happened? He's a sweet boy. A good boy. We know that. Why do you think

he had so much success in that second half? In those conditions, with where he was putting the ball, how decisive he was, how confident he looked, why do you think that happened this past weekend, Aaron? Do you have a direct point that you can kind of show us to and be like, yeah, here's why? Or what do you think while you're watching this unfold in front of you? I just think that sometimes guys get into rhythm

and you just kind of get in that zone. And the play caller gives you a lot of opportunities. We passed the ball 10 straight times. I think that was directly related to him getting into a rhythm and us moving the ball. It's pretty crazy, though. I mean, we hadn't scored 30 in the last four games, I don't think, on offense, maybe five.

And we came out and scored 30 and a half. So, you know, just little things, though. There were simple plays, like this simple play, X-Shell across, which has been the offense since Bill Walsh. And then, you know, as we have to do this, this is just, you know, Aggie, four verticals right here. But as we know, every single week,

sometimes quarterback has to make some of those real special plays. And I felt like he made a couple big-time plays there. He had, you know, one that maybe shows up, third and 12. He spun out to the left and hit Garrett for a first down. The next play, he hit Cobby for a touchdown to put us on the board but even some smaller plays that are kind of throwaway plays running a keeper he extends the play he makes a guy miss and throws kind of a late sideline ball to Ruckert that he kind of like double caught and in the grand scheme of things it's probably a throwaway play nobody remembers that play but it took us from a you know third and extra long to a third and really

manageable we converted and ended up getting points on the drive um we had a big drive there after uh it went 14-7 to go uh 14-6 they missed that point but to go down there and score and put it back up two scores was uh was really good i thought he was in a good rhythm. I thought Hack called a good game. I thought guys made some plays, contested catches for Rook. I thought we did what we needed to, getting the ball to our two stud playmakers. Garrett had nine for 108. Brees had a number of touches.

He had eight catches for over 80 yards and a touchdown. So in the elements, under the circumstances, very happy for Zach. He played excellent and good to be sitting there with a touchdown. In the elements, under the circumstances, very happy for Zach. He played excellent, and good to be sitting here with a win. It's been a long November. It certainly has, and that was a good Houston defense. That's a good Houston team. People just see HOU, I think, that maybe haven't been following

the season. They're like, I did it against Houston. It's like, hey, this Houston defense has been great, and the Houston offense, that's a huge win for the Jets as a whole. And more specifically, I guess Zach Wilson's confidence. Go ahead, AJ. Sweet haircut today. Yeah, so where are you at physically right now?

How do you feel compared to maybe even last week? And what do you make of all these so-called reports of you being cleared, what, right around Christmas for the game that's coming up around that time? Are you leaking things to people? What's going on? Commanders, 24th. Yeah, I'm not sure where that report's coming up around that time. Are you leaking things to people? What's going on? Commanders 24th. Yeah, I'm not sure where that report's coming from. There's been a lot of interesting reporting

over the last few weeks of our team. Was it the Counting Crows guy? Was it the Counting Crows guy who was telling people stuff? No, I don't think it was Adam. His lips are sealed. Awesome. Awesome guy. Always? That's a good one there, Connor. Where's that tie?

Is his tie even in? Did he make it in after yesterday? Oh! We're fine. We're fine. A lot of ball left. Bingo. No, I'm not sure about some of these reports,

but there's loose lips everywhere. I'm not going to let that sink my ship, though. I'm getting better, improving. Still some things I've got to do in order to be able to be cleared. But I've done some limited practice the last couple weeks and done some seven-on-seven stuff at the end of practice. What? With who? Twos, threes, practice squad?

Who are you running with? Well, it's a lot of threes and the P-squad guys. Oh, my God. Imagine the defense. Oh, yeah. The rest of the year, they're going against Aaron Rodgers and the practice squad. There's going to be somebody that comes in as practice squad.

It's called flight squad. Flight school. It's the Flight Squad. Flight School. It's the kind of B-Squad guys getting some extra work in at the end, and I just asked, hey, can I take some of those reps there? Imagine they said no. I've finagled my way into taking the flight school a few days and enjoyed that. school a few days but uh yeah uh and enjoyed that uh but i'm you know working working in there and obviously doing all our rehab and uh diet and vitamins and all those different things modalities triple a all the you know things that are you know important uh still jocked and he's actually

a little bit upset that you didn't mention that he might have been jocked at the party he said there's a lot of opportunities for you and con yikes well i told him and he felt a little bit offended just let him know just let him know we don't want to wrestle ever no thanks everyone wrestle him ever but also he in a sign of I believe, chose to wear the thickest sweater of all time. And then also a beanie on his head that was covering his whole thing. It's like, you had to be 7,000 degrees. He probably used it as a night sweat. Oh, so we didn't even get to see how jocked he was because he was wearing a fur coat pretty much as a sweater on top of himself.

So we apologize, but we assume a professional like AAA, and I've seen some of his. Oh, yeah. Some of his IGs being still. Explosive. How are you? Are you still jocked? Because I remember going into the season,

it was the most jocked you had been, and you had been working with AAA. Still being able to do all that throughout the entire season, even though the Achilles has been worked on? Well, a lot of that's getting jocked. You've got to be able to do some serious cardio. Achilles been worked on? Well, a lot of that's getting jocked. You got to be able to do some serious cardio. So I haven't been able to do as much cardio as I maybe want to. But, you know, I feel like I'm like a week of really good dieting away from where I want to be.

Averagely jock. Yeah, averagely jock is probably fast. You know, as the season goes in a normal year, it's hard to be as jocked as you are when you kind of first start training camp. But I feel like I've held it pretty good this year. Not bad for late 30s, early 40s. Well, 40 for sure now. Happy birthday.

Happy birthday, Aaron. Happy birthday. Happy birthday, Aaron. It's really, really cool. You are still jocked. Wait until you retire, man. I'm not saying that's anytime soon. But when you retire, A.J. birthday. Happy birthday, Aaron. It's really, really cool. You are still jocked. Wait till you retire, man. And not saying that's anytime soon, but when you retire, AJ knows. Just look at him.

You can just take these things that just like, it just helps. You're just jocked. Just immediately jocked pretty much. It's crazy, dude. I can't wait to see. I figured that AQ wouldn't want to be drug tested at this point. No. No chance.

Nope. None of us uh a man who's not on anything though just ridiculously handsome tie is a question for you yeah aaron the other guy in your city i don't know if you've been following this too much but uh tommy cutlass tommy devito has kind of taken over the nfl and i know you've basically said like hey let's wait until these guys have played a little bit before we crown them but they're already doing that they're saying he's the savior of the Giants and that you know he's the king in New York right now but when it comes to guys like that who are undrafted he was a you know the the third string quarterback like how are certain guys able to come in and just have success immediately when they have you know he's got the same guys that daniel jones had like is that all just confidence and uh like dayball kind of working with him and putting

him in spots to be successful like why is a guy like him so successful coming in whereas like other guys who we know their names and get opportunities come in and they just they don't perform the same way i mean that's an interesting question. There's a lot that goes into it. It's not just one player, one time. There's matchup stuff. There's how the defense is playing. I wouldn't know the stats offhand,

but I feel like the defense, Wink and his guys, have been playing a little bit better the last stretch of the season. But the recipe is not too complicated. It's be opportunistic. It's make good decisions, take care of the football. And, you know, I think when you got a little bit of moxie to go along with that and some charisma, which he obviously does, presence, that helps.

But he watched the game last night. He had, what, very efficient. He only had a few incompletions, right? He had no turnovers. He had no sacks. I mean, they'd come in with giving up, I would guess, close to or the most sacks in the league. And to have no sacks, no turnovers, didn't seem like,

and I didn't watch the whole game, didn't seem like there were a ton of, hey, there we are, a ton of, like, real, you know, turnover-worthy plays. So that's the key to success, taking care of the football, being opportunistic, making some plays, and then, you know, bringing that extra little something. Yeah, a little sauce. Seems like the team really loves, I mean, how could you not?

A little bit of shmay, yeah. Yeah, there's a little shmay. Shout out to Arnold Schwarzenegger. Shout out to Arnold Schwarzenegger. Hope he's having a fantastic Tuesday. It's been fun to watch this, though. Like him, Heineke, Mike White in recent history have had this run, and then the conversation immediately goes to like,

now hold the phone. Is this guy better than the 40 million dollar a year quarterback and why does the team play better for him now obviously Tommy DeVito might we don't know we have no idea about this guy what he's going to be five years from now maybe he will be the next Joe Montana yeah and maybe he does in like how about five games? No, I understand. But let's just talk about the teams, though. What did we talk about last week? I'm not saying that. I'm just saying

we've got to keep the door open for the possibilities that maybe five years from now, Tommy DeVito is a guy. We have no idea. But why does it feel like teams kind of rally around some of these backup quarterbacks in your eyes? Just like your thoughts. Because obviously the charisma and the swag, but like they have a belief, right?

And the expectations aren't really like Tommy might miss a pass and they're not going to get pissed, I don't think. It's like, eh, you know, isn't that kind of a thing, don't you think? Yeah, I think that's possible. Listen, I think a lot of this shit is overblown. If you win, you know, then there's a little momentum. You know, the narrative changes so quickly in a week. Look at our team, you know, same thing.

And what, the Giants have won a few in a row now? Oh, sweet boy. So that's the narrative that's going on there. But every week there's overreactions, there's crowning, there's, you know, trashing, and then it all gets reset you know once they're playing either thursday sunday or monday saturday coming up to saturday games coming up everything gets reset and uh there'll be something else to talk about officials guys line up offsides cutlets whatever the hell it might be. There's going to be a new conversation that happens and a new narrative.

And that's the league we play in. I think it's beautiful because it draws a lot of attention to our sport. It's also got to be maddening at times for people that really live and die with the roller coaster of headlines. Yeah, and somehow you've been able to survive it mentally because obviously the wave of your headlines, personally and professionally, have certainly been all over the place

throughout the entire career. Let's talk about what you just alluded to there. You know, last week you talked about Jordan Love, right? And you said, can we let this guy, you know, can we let him have his career before we do anything? Last night he has a game in which he didn't look perfect, but the defense was obviously a full team. Jordan Love, he's riding this wave. Are you talking to him?

Do you message him? Do you watch from afar and say, hey, how he's handling it is good? What is your whole, at this stage, with how you're viewing Jordan Love's first year as a starter for the Packers after your departure buddy didn't we talk about this last week I think he's doing fantastic I think he's playing really really well um it comes down to the same stuff it's and I've been in the room with Tom before and I know what he's all about it's about decision making it's about footwork it's about accuracy and he's graded very very difficultly and you might play a perfect game and think that you know you get a positive grade and I had many many hundred quarterback rating games with

negative grades from Tom because Tom believed in me and the potential and I know he feels the same way about Jordan so he's getting the best coaching in his room possible. He holds himself to a high standard. But I think he is, everything's in place for him to be a starter at a high level for a long, long time. He, you know, he can throw, make all the throws. He can move in the pocket. Obviously, there's some things it looks like he's doing at the line of scrimmage so the understanding of the offense and his understanding of defense as well uh is great um you know i just think for his sake and i've said this again i said last week

like the overreaction stuff i'm sure that he's uh staying out of it and the ups and downs because nothing really good comes from that to be you know feeling yourself after a win or or downing yourself after a loss is absolutely nothing you just got to ride the ride the wave kind of staying above it and out of it and uh being even keeled and kind of showing up and being the same guy every single week um i think he's got a real good demeanor about him and uh he had a great drive last night. I mean, think about it. This is how ridiculous our game is in the media cycle. They take the ball down the field. He throws a crazy pass on an Omaha on the outside. Kid makes a great catch in the end zone.

And, you know, you're kicking the ball back off. You're up by what? You're up by one point. One with how many minutes? Like a minute, 30. Ball on the 20th. Ball on the 20th Ball on the 20. And this is bringing zero pressure.

Those are ridiculous. Only one place you can throw this thing. Great catch by, was it Heath? Yeah. But better throw. Incredible throw. If you look at it from the other angle, there's only one spot for this ball, right? You know, 25 is all over it.

Kid makes a great hands catch for sure but amazing play and what's the narrative if the defense stops you know a undrafted kid from going uh 50 yards down the field it's like hey you know the Packers are seven and six now they're the you know what five six seed or whatever and uh all is right in the world they could win out they could you know with detroit struggling they could get to what the three seed you know all these different storylines that would start to pop up but instead now like an afc i think there's six teams at seven and six nfc there's is it five or six teams at six and seven well it's all of the teams all right and somehow all of the teams are still in every single playoff conversation five well so there's five teams at six and seven um so yeah it's it's fascinating

i think where's the six the box oh yeah the box yeah exactly yes there's six teams at six and seven it's crazy three of them are tied for division lead on the one side um you know it's wild a lot could happen you saw what dallas and the niners did to philly the last two weeks that's you know interesting philly's still a phenomenal team you know those three seem to maybe be uh the cream of uh of the nfc but who knows you know i think that it's it's kind of wide open obviously the niner's been looking pretty pretty solid the last couple weeks but the afc is is wide open buffalo came up with a big win against kent city yeah thank you for that uh miami got beat by you know tennessee which is crazy um jacksonville's lost two in a row right

uh you got a lot of interesting games coming up, a couple of 7-6 teams playing each other, a couple of the 7-6 teams going into some tough environments. A lot could happen. You never know. There's four amazing weeks left. Baltimore's sitting there coming off a crazy win against the Rams on a last-second punt return. So the NFL is really exciting. A lot can happen week to week.

But it's the storylines. You can't just get too caught up because they change so much. That's our life. Our life is the storylines. I mean, that is – there's a lot of them in here. And every once in a while, my brain will have a glitch, and it will go like last year. Like a last year story will hop in.

I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, that was – They mix. I think it was like a year and a half ago. Oh, wait. Geez. There's so many. There's so many stories. Because this guy, Hall of Fame, Super Bowl, this guy, terrible. And then just five weeks later, boop, complete opposite.

It is bananas, the story arches of everybody. Sorry about that, Aaron. Go ahead. No, no, no. Go ahead. I feel like you might want Connor to jump in or something. Well, Connor has a great one, actually. This is where we're heading next. Go ahead, Connor.

Yeah, Aaron, I actually have an update for you, too. In the conspiracy theory world, people are really going crazy about the new Netflix movie that the Obamas produced, so if you want to dive into that, might as well give it a shot. Pretty bad movie, but, you know, people Did you watch? Yeah, I did. I saw it. Watched the whole thing. Alright. What's it called?

I think it's called like Don't Look Back or something like that. Leave the world behind. Leave the world behind. Oh, Don't Look Up, Leave the World Behind. Bingo. Kind of makes the two. Got it. But yeah, maybe give that a watch. But there was enough... You sound like you were being a little negative about that movie.

Well, I think the movie as a whole is just a big pile of shit, but the conspiracy theories around it are magnificent. Oh, okay. You're saying the fodder. Yeah, the thing they weren't trying to do with the movie is the best part of the movie. Got it. Because C-words are going C-word.

Come on. I love being a C-word, especially on Tuesdays. But, Aaron, there's an update to your body, actually. You got a new tattoo. You added some art to the, I believe, left bicep. What was that about? What is it? And why did you get it right now?

Are you going to show a picture of it so I can talk through it? Sure. I was hoping you would just take your time. I mean, we planned stuff, you know, so we knew that this was going to come up. Uh-huh, for sure. So we have it right now obviously the boys are actually making sure that it is the perfect resolution in the meantime in the meantime i i have seen that movie uh that just came out um i thought it was uh thought provoking for sure okay uh it's you know is is it i know a lot of

people talking about predictive programming. There's some interesting little Easter eggs, nuggets in there. It's unique. It's unique how much you know. You know what I mean? What's the conspiracy part of it? Very unique. Where do you start?

Yeah, bingo. I haven't seen it. I haven't seen it. Very unique. It's got all of them.? Yeah, bingo. I haven't seen it. Yeah, I haven't seen it. Very unique. It's got all of them. Okay, I'm excited. What's it called? Don't look back up.

Don't look back. Don't look back up. What's it called? I don't think it's called that. Leave the world behind. Yeah, leave the world behind. There it is. Leave the world behind.

Oh, geez. I mean, just now that I'm starting to think about it. They explain how to basically, they overthrow the United States of America is essentially what happens in it. Oh, no. I love our country. That's never going to happen. Anyways, does the tattoo about maybe not doing that, maybe standing? We'll stand for the United States

of America. Don't tread on me. Super artsy, this photo, by the way. It's the same artist who did my forearm belage, my Hungarian brother. This time, I didn't have to go to Hungary to get the tattoo, it's the same you know it's the same artist who did my forearm balazs my hungarian brother um this time i didn't have to go to hungary to get the tattoo thankfully i just had to go to brooklyn um uh which i think they call a little hungary um anyway that might be a newer name for it but uh but yeah there's uh you know some symbolism there there's a you know dragon uh love dragons there's some symbolism there. There's, you know, dragon, love dragons.

There's the eight. Oh. Number eight. It's sideways. Eight is infinity, obviously. Oh. And then the two and the 12 is an ode to my godson. So, yeah, just a combination of a lot of things but uh yeah shout out to balazs for

uh is he biting his own tail tails are chasing the dragon yeah what does that symbolize yeah why is he sucking his own tail is that me no no but it's just to complete the uh the eight or the infinity symbol oh because you couldn't leave out because it's not infinity. Right. Got it, got it, got it. Has to be. No one on it. Does it connect to the forearm tap?

Not really, not yet. Great question. Okay. How about that hurt? That didn't hurt pretty good. It's pretty detailed. There's a lot of detail. Yeah, up near the pit, the top of the armpit, that part really hurt.

Everything else was not too bad. Hey, it looks sweet. Great. Great addition. Looks sweet. How long did that take? About five hours. I don't know how you guys do it.

My wife's got a beautiful sleeve. And I don't know how many hours it is, but it's got to be a lot. Do you still have the barbed wire up here? Me? Yeah. I got rid of the barbed wire, but our guy, our guy, AQ Shipsh, AQ Shipsh, down there in Little Hungary, you can get that right there.

Yeah, let's go. So he moved to Little Hungary, or is he traveling in to see fam or just taking a visit? He's just, he's traveling. He has a visa to spend time in the country and uh so you know he's a busy man you gotta you gotta find a way to sync up with him but um always love uh spending time with him and a lot of respect for his uh his work obviously the only person that i would ever let tattoo me so oh that's very nice yeah it's obviously a huge honor

for the hungarian man they speak English, obviously, Hungarian people. No, we just have our own kind of sign language. Nice. I know what this means, right? Yeah. Long snapper for San Francisco 49ers. Yeah, that taper. Yeah, he taught me this one right here, I think.

And then obviously. What does that mean? I think this one's the F word and all that. I wonder if like Dick White right now is like centering my hand. He might be that. Blurring about. I think. Pixel's the F word and all that I'm saying. I wonder if, like, Dick White right now is, like, censoring my hand. He might be the F word about. I think. Pixelating him, yeah. Yeah, I'm not 100% sure.

And in this one, shit happens, obviously. Oh, that one's good. I worked with a deaf man named Greg at Rudy's Subs and Pizza 286. How can I help you? Thanks, Greg. Yeah. DK is really kind of bringing ASL into the mainstream. I love it too. Yeah. I'm a big fan of it as well. It makes life good, especially on this particular program when

we're not allowed to say one particular word. As soon as you find out that that is, you know what I mean? It's just like, here we go. Just start tossing that in there. Then I don't know how many deaf people listen to our show. Okay. I don't know how many. I have had to have a sign language interpreter at a standupup show, though, because one person in the crowd, at least one person, couldn't hear. So I had to. It's like a rule of the thing that you have to have an interpreter on the stage. Can't have that because, obviously, my first 45 minutes was just saying things.

Playing to them. Just to see what the interpretation was. 45 minutes of it. This sweet old lady, 85 years old, normally in there for singers and stuff. They do the whole thing. And then I'm just like, all right, what's up? You.

And then she flips. I'm like, oh, I knew that one. And then we built a relationship. It was great. But anyways, every once in a while. And every once, you got to get a dragon on this thing right here. There you go. Let the world know that we're playing football forever. It was great. But anyways, you know, every once in a while and every once, you got to get a dragon on this thing right here. Let the world know that we're playing football forever.

That's what that means. Infinity. That's how long we're playing for. No, that's not what it means. Are you playing this year? Bring that AFC thing back up. Bring the AFC playoff picture back up. Look at the bubble. Right? So mathematically. Yeah, I'm glad we made the bubble. Ooh. Right? So, mathematically.

Yeah, I'm glad we made the bubble there because there was some stats that didn't put us on there, some graphics. So, could be back on the bubble. But if you look at it, what do we got? 7, 10, 15 of the 16 teams are on the picture there. Come on. Kornacki had them on the bubble. Okay.

So, that means not mathematically eliminated, right? Nope. Only the Patriots and the Panthers, right? Go to hell. Out of there. Just a reminder for everyone. The New England Patriots. Yep.

Out of there. Completely eliminated. The only AFC team. Already? Oh, shut up. I'll tell you, Bill was awesome on game day, though, wasn't he? Dude, so cool. How's your relationship with him?

With him and Corso. With him and Corso, that was awesome. That was cool. Agreed. What's your relationship like with Bill? I mean, just friendly when we see each other. I've seen him, you know, we've played him over the years, and then a couple times in Pebble, he's played in that event.

So a lot of respect, a lot of respect. But mostly just kind of short conversations here and there yeah he that was the first time i ever got to you know because normally anytime i'd see him warm-ups vinitary he's coming up to vinitary you know they have a great relationship obviously and then i'm on the way out hey all right see you that was so get a chance to like just witness his or as soon as he shows up, New England fans, we start clapping. And then his Rolodex, and you talk about him and Coach Corso,

off air they were sharing stories. Before we even get on there about remembering this and that, it was fantastic. His brain, bro. Huge. He's got one of those big ones. Feels like he's going to coach forever. Now let's continue to move on.

Tony has a question for you about the conversation of the NFL this year. Yeah, hey, Aaron. Happy Tuesday. Now with Herbert having surgery, he's going to be out for the rest of the year. 55 quarterbacks have started this year in the NFL. Now the rules are supposed to be protecting quarterbacks more these days, but this year and last year the most quarterbacks have started in the history of the NFL. Can you think of any reason for that?

Or is it like front offices just being more, I don't know, cautious with guys? Is there anything that you come up with why there's been so many quarterback injuries the last couple seasons? Nothing in particular, I don't think. I think there's just some seasons where maybe it happens more than others. Seems to be that there's more Achilles injuries than this year. Hopefully that balances out in the future and there's less of those. But I don't know. I mean, there's been some kind of weird injuries too, right?

Not just me and Kirk, but Herbert broke fingers now on both hands, I believe, right? And then Joe Burrow's injury seemed very strange. How often does what he had happen? And then some guys have gotten hurt and come back uh you know as lawrence came back after what looked like a pretty bad injury uh and played this last week so i don't know i mean there's already a you know shortage of uh you know really great ones in the league. So, you know, the league wants their star players playing. If there was one thing in particular that was causing these,

I'm sure they'd look into it. They might not do anything, but they'd look into it. They'd sniff around. Yeah, they'd sniff around a little bit, but it's too bad. You know, I enjoy Mr. Herbert a lot. I think he's a really talented guy. And just hearing about his personality and character from Corey Linsley, who is a friend of the show, whether or not he's been on there before,

but a friend of the show. You know, a lot of respect for him and his game and look forward to him getting back healthy soon. I like hearing that Corey Linsley is a friend of the program. I love that. Yeah, he's a dog. He's a dog right there. You know what I mean?

He's been bending over from that ball a long time. Really, really good at it. I'd like to hear that he likes Justin Hurt behind the scenes because there's obviously some centers that don't love their quarterback. We saw that on a field this past weekend. There was an offensive lineman who had to hold a center back from fighting a quarterback on a football field this past weekend. That's rare, too. Unique. Did you video that? I football field this past week. And that's rare, too.

Unique. You're talking about. I didn't see that. What was that? Oh, yeah. Not going to put you in a spot to have to comment on this, obviously, because anything you say will get taken. However, Derek Carr almost got beat up by his center this past weekend.

Oh, wow. On the field. Yeah. On the field. Yeah. It was intense. But that was. Did he fart on his hand or something? What happened? Probably. That is interesting. I didn't even think about it. Maybe he It was intense. Did he fart on his hand or something?

Probably. That is interesting. I didn't even think about it. Maybe he pissed his pants. No, I think what he did was Derek Carr said, you know, he got a sack there. And I believe McCoy said, throw the ball. I believe he said, AQ, you might be able to speak for him better than me.

I don't know what he said, but I have said throw the ball before. I have said, come on, get rid of the ball. And Jeff Saturday and Peyton have obviously had their situation on the sideline. Well-documented, a lot of love for each other. We're not saying McCoy hates Derek Carr there. But, yeah, that was certainly something that took place this weekend. That would have been a unique way to get hurt. Yeah, that would have been rough.

I can't think of any centers over the years that i feel like i would have a good chance in a fight against uh you know maybe going back to high school that might have evened things out a little bit but even still um there's a tight relationship between quarterback and center so i'm sure they got that worked out and everything's fine anything between you and cory over the years with how long you guys were together? I assume there had to be moments. Corey is the ultimate troll, man. He is the ultimate troll in human form. Whatever he could do

to mess with me, he did. A lot of ridiculous things over the years. If I got mad at him or said something or we had a walkthrough and it'd be one of those doldrum days and he'd just slap his ass

really hard and then he'd just fire the fucking, sorry, fire the ball. 13 days. It was 13 days. Damn it. We had 13 shows. Such a good run. 13's the best we've ever had. By far. He would just fire the ball back at you in the walkthrough like 100 miles an, and try and drill you in the nuts

or do some crazy things. Like, he'd be after a walkthrough, and one day he'd show up and wouldn't have any underwear on. And I'm like, come on, bro. Put some frigging drawers on. What are you doing, man? Come on. Just, like, stuff like that all the time.

He'd mess with your locker. He'd mess with your locker. He'd mess with your quarterback room. He would love to get on the computers of one of the strength coaches and put some interesting pictures on the background of his computer. Still to this day, we've got a nice little text thread of me and Corey and Thad where we send each other some interesting, mostly we send Thad pictures

because he gets a little offended about it but love Corey. Corey's one of the all-time great trolls and teammates. Quarterback-center relationship is a real one. It has to be great. Also, a relationship with the guidelines that were agreed to between me and ESPN.

When we're on there, what words we'll use and what words we won't use. Try. There was one particular word, only one, that ended up being, oh, I won't do it. And I actually pitched it because, hey, let's do good business. You know what I mean? Everything else, need to keep shit. I'd like to apologize then

to absolutely nobody. Yes. There's a disclaimer. I know this because I've watched the show for the last few months pretty religiously, but there's a disclaimer spoken by, I think, a famous coach.

Yep. It talks about there's going to be swear words because that's how people talk in the real world. Yeah. So I know we're on a tape delay. That's it. There we go. Right there. Don't sue us, please.

Well, that's. That's for one. That's because. Shout out. Yeah. Shout out. Four. Guy, we're all.

Hey, listen. He didn't even know. I don't know. Yeah. No, we're all, hey, listen. He didn't even know. I don't think he knew, but we have to change the marquee. 13 is the biggest number that we've ever been able to put in. Gone. Well, you're telling me that JJ hasn't popped off a little bit? Was that a Fagay's number? His grandma.

His grandma. The last two have told him not to. You know, grandma. Was that a Fagay's number, though? What? Didn't Jalen Ramsey swear last week? Thank you. In New York?

Oh, he did. Yeah. Yeah, he did. Did he talk about only in the Thunderdome, or is that a bullshit number he got up there? Yeah, it sounds like we got a mislead on stats. Oh, no. Oh, my God. Zero.

That can't be who we are. Can't have that. That cannot be who we are. That's bad. We're going to go to that department and let them know. Can't have that mistake. Can't do it. Men lie, women lie, but numbers don't.

Well, that one did. Mark, he can't. I got a question up for the crew. What's been the greater comeback from injury? Would you say me and my Achilles or AJ and his sexual injury eye situation. Ty, I'll let you take the lead there. I mean, I think, you know, I want to say your Achilles because we've never seen it done before.

But, I mean, AJ's eye was just mangled. You know, couldn't even open it. Had a bunch of goo on there. Who knows what kind of goo. Patch at one point. Yeah, eye patch. And then now all of a sudden, just a couple weeks later, it's like nothing ever happened.

I was told that two-thirds of his cornea got taken out. How does that happen? I thought he was going to lose his eyeball. I was told by a reliable source at the party that he wasn't able to see the little insert on the belt that goes around the red ball gag for like at least 10 or 12 days. Really? Somebody else had to strap it up for him.

He's normally the first one to be able to pull it off. Axel. Wow. I mean, I would never judge anybody that does that, but that is not my thing. It's not. Of course. I mean, Aaron's very aware and knows all of these things anybody that does that but that is not my thing it's not of course yeah but i mean aaron aaron's

very aware and knows all of these things and all these you know sexual intricacies that he's been experimenting with over the years so he likes to try to put his information out here to try to make it mainstream it's what he's doing oh this is him trying to uh portray progress he's trying to progress i've been in aj's bedroom not when him and Laura are role-playing, but there's – listen, I've seen swings. I've seen S&M stuff. I've seen multiple ball guys. Kids love S&M stuff. You got your own room like you're Mr. Gray.

Is that what you're saying, Aaron? That's not a swing, Axel. It's weird, Aaron, because a bunch of Amazon packages showed up the day after the eye injury, and it was like a chest for a bunch of pirate stuff was in it, a bunch of pirate costumes. So I think they took advantage of the situation. Yeah, that wasn't a peg-like Tony. That was a doubleheader. But also, to be fair, AJ, on Friday when he was here, and this is true, this is real,

you actually opened the box on Thursday, just a big box of sex gummies, sex things you could smoke. First thing, I've never seen AJ ever want something. First thing he did when he saw that box, like, can I have this? Can I actually have this? He left with it. Did you send that to us? Zito gave it to me. Zito gave it to me and said, hey, they sent this for you.

I said, absolutely. I'll take it. Z had two words out of his mouth, and you're already, yep, okay, cool, thanks. Give me the sex coming immediately. Yeah, I did. Absolutely. I'm not denying that. They sent some sex smokes, too.

I'm excited to see how that works. You know, you just smoke. I need the boink sauce. No. I don't know. I don't know. I guess we should ask Aaron. Aaron, have you ever heard about this boinking sauce that people are smoking all over the place?

No, I haven't. Does it have plants from the Amazon in it? Okay, so tell us more. So down there in the Amazon, there's plants that you eat that everybody's just doing each other? Is that what's going on? You got the boner plant you found? It's an orgy plant. Yeah, I can't really talk about that.

Okay. Oh, you're being censored. Wow. I thought. I thought. I was told. Oh, I was that. Oh, you're being censored. Wow. I thought I was told. I was told. Whoa, you're set. Whoa, are you okay? Is everything all right?

Yeah, everything's great. I just, there's, you know, some things that are esoteric in nature that need to kind of stay where they're at. Esoteric what? Esoteric. I think we've done that on the internet. People are going to go snatch up all your boner plants. Yeah, we won't saw down your boner leaves. We promise we won't, right?

Deep deforestation is a real problem. Thank you. Shipley's thinking about taking the seals down there with some clippers. All right, boys, we're starting this thing. I heard we'll be rocked up for the next week or so before we get out of here on ESPN.

It's the best sports show of all time. rocked up for the next week or so before we get out of here on ESPN. It's the best sports show of all time. That's what some people say. Those people also don't have the best taste in things, so we should remember that. Hey, Kedarious Tony was offside, and when you see Patrick Mahomes

react the way he reacts, how do you think his teammates take that? And he's come out yesterday, went on a local radio show, and said he regrets the way he reacted afterwards. We talked about how that's the first time we've ever seen him, like, showcase his emotion in our eyes. Teammates are going to love it. What did you think while you're watching that all kind of unfold?

And how do you think the NFL reacts to it? I hope nothing happens. I hope they do nothing. They're saying they're going to get fined for criticizing the refs. That's what they're saying. Oh, well, for some of the media stuff, I thought you meant more the sideline stuff. Listen, I didn't

know what to think until I saw a good segment by Dano where he was talking about he broke down every play and he showed multiple plays where it looked like Tony was off sides on other plays. Did you see that breakdown? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that was pretty fascinating. Listen, I talk to our guys all the time about this, and it's a simple little thing. When you come out and you're the on-the-ball receiver, look out at the line judge and point at him or put your fist out or whatever you got to do, and he will in turn or she pat their leg or give you a thumbs up, right? Patting their leg or give you a thumbs up right pat your leg

or give me a thumbs up means you're good you're in the right spot it's just a normal thing i think some guys get into the habit of like i'm just going to put myself what i think is my scrimmage and hold my fist out right and then the other receiver who's gonna put himself in an off the position you know stance and put his arm back, which signifies to the referee, hey, I'm the off-the-ball receiver. Because a lot of times they're cheating their splits a little bit. They're cheating the line of scrimmage. And for the most part, the refs let them get away with it.

And I think they should. I think that's one of those things that shouldn't be policed that well. However, I think when we allow offensive players or defensive players to line up in the neutral zone and don't call that, because I'm more of like leaning towards a stricter interpretation of the rules. I think

in basketball, which I'm a big fan of, I think we can all agree that the lax interpretation of let's just pick one rule, traveling traveling makes it interesting what they actually decide to call or not it's really hard to even make a traveling call now because it happens in every single play I think that maybe they would basketball would say the same thing happens and you know with football and holding or whatnot but I think there's certain

rules that seem pretty black and white lining up on sides as one of those, checking with the referee. Now, if the referee, which I've seen a side view, gives him a thumbs up or pats his leg, thank you, yeah. But from this vantage point, it really looks like if you watch the ref, he slightly moves to his left here to be able to see the ball because he can't see it. Now, I was wondering, is there something that Humphreys does with the football to move the football back?

Like does he have – because if you watch, there's one view you can see Humphreys actually has the ball kind of tilted up instead of like forward, and that seems to change the line of scrimmage back slightly. Does that affect things? But Mr. Tony here should probably just peek, and he does, but he doesn't necessarily get maybe a verification here. But again, it's a tiny foul. It's a very tiny thing.

If there was multiple issues, the thing i love about gene right i'm jumping just but gene's territory is gene would always kind of warn you you know he'd say hey move your right tackle up or hey move your left tackle up or uh you know watch uh you know watch your hands on the snap counter or hey watch the play clock you're you know getting real right up next to zero whatever um it kind of gave you one warning. But after that, it was like, no, no, hey, we warned you. Like for, you know, Bach, he's like, hey, Bach, get your hands inside. We're going to call holding, right? Barely happened.

I must admit that rarely. Of course. But if he had another foul that was hands inside the frame, it would be a penalty. Now, I would assume if there are multiple occurrences of this, that somebody had maybe said something to him or should have, if you're not going to call it. But I think we all just want to see consistency with all these calls. But that, to me, it wipes out a really awesome play.

But the interpretation of the rule was obviously correct. And as far as Pat, if you talk about the refs, you get fined, I guess. But anything else, listen, we all do things that we'd like to have back from time to time. There's passionate moments. There's things that, yeah, I mean, he wasn't very happy. Yeah, offensive offsides. Yeah, yeah, he he wasn't very happy. Yeah, offensive offsides. Yeah, yeah, he said that a couple times. And he even said it to Josh Allen afterwards,

as if Josh Allen gave a single. Fuck, he did not, you know. And Josh Allen, they're tight though, they're friends. I don't know about getting held back like that. I mean, it definitely took a few people. Like, what was he going to do if he wasn't held back to the rack? What if he just knocked him out? Killed him.

What if he just won over there? Offensive offsides, huh? To lose the game? Okay. Well, now, dead. Bang. How about it? That's the last time you do that?

That would be awesome. Patrick Mahomes knocking out a lefty. But we need these men and women. Agreed. I'm joking, obviously. Little punch refs, obviously. Yeah, I love the these men and women. Agreed. I'm joking, obviously. We don't punch refs, obviously. Yeah, I love the human element of our game. It can be maddening at times, for sure.

But those relationships are important to the game. The referees really care about the game, and I think they all want to do the right thing and make the right calls. They're not intentionally trying to make calls. I think that referee made the right call. So whether or not it should have been called three or four times in the game, I mean, look at the Kansas City false starts. They kind of changed the way that things were being refereed early in the season.

There was, you know, like 42 false starts in the same game by the same player, and they finally called one of them. Same team. Week one. Is that the actual number? Did you do the actual research on that what if that was the actual it's close the whole point is we want consistency we want consistency uh with the referees they have a tough job to do we're all interpreting these things and

criticizing these things in slow motion for the most part and i think whether it's gene or terry mccauley or john perry or anybody on, they always try and remind the viewer that, like, hey, this is bang, bang, real-time plays that they're trying to referee. So a little bit of grace and a little bit of understanding, I think, can go a long way because they're trying to do their best. Players, we just want consistency. So I think that was the right call. I understand the frustration.

I'd be pissed, too, you know, being called offensive offsides on a play like that that wins a game. And look at Kansas City, you know, that's how crazy the league is. Like they've had a couple, that play goes for a touchdown. They stop them. They win that game. They had a chance in another game with a deep ball to Marquez. They had another chance, you know, in a, in a game early in the season, really three games. I feel like they probably think it could have gone the other way. They're 8-5. Sitting at, you know, 11-2 would be a whole different ballgame because I believe that Pat, has he played any playoff games on the road? No. He hasn't, right? Yeah. So that would be a new experience.

Not that he couldn't do it. He's a phenomenal player. But, you know, they're going to have a hard time getting that one seed, I think, at this point. You know what Travis Kelsey did on that play? Two things at once. He was tight end and he was quarterback. It was one of the greatest

plays we will never be able to celebrate because of the lineup offsides. And people forget Kadarius Toney was the one who scored the touchdown on that play. That's going into his Rolodex as well. That's going into his highlight reel for the rest of his life as well. You think Kadarius Toney was the one who scored the touchdown on that play. That's right. That's going into his Rolodex as well. That's going into his highlight reel for the rest of his life as well. You think Kadarius Toney's happy about all this?

No. No way. No way. Back to Corey Lindsley. Corey Lindsley held on one of the greatest plays of my career as well, where I made like three guys miss in the pocket and threw this ball as I was getting drilled in the back of my legs to Devontae Adams against Chicago in the back of the end zone.

No one ever gives a shit about that play because Corey can tell you to hold on. This guy. Hey, Corey, figure it out. What a prick. Don't hold. Yeah, we were talking. If you go back to the play, though, Corey,

it's one of those interesting holds where a guy just overpowers another guy. Corey literally just grabbed this dude and just. Corey's like, I didn't hold. I won. You're talking about a great play for you. I would have had this... This fucking plays on my highlight reel, too. I just picked the guy up and dominated him.

Football is wild. Because, listen to the way we're talking. I don't know how you're talking, but how we're talking, obviously, we're part of the problem. We get it. You remind us every single week. Bills get that win there. Very easily easily could not have i mean just right here right

right there bills don't win okay just literally bills don't win right there instead saw that what's that just like aj and laura always talk about, you know, with their own games. Like, the NFL is a game of inches. It certainly is. A couple of them. Just a couple inches. Just one or two at different times can make a big difference. Darius Toney was like, I told him that's six inches.

You know what I mean? Didn't even look back. But we're talking about the Bills being, like, I tell him that's six inches. And it didn't even, you know what I mean? It didn't even look back. But we're talking about the Bills being like back. You heard the, did you see the locker room afterwards where they were talking to Sean McDermott? And the player's like, we got your back. Like that was like a real emotional moment almost. It's like, wait a second, are the Bills ready to go?

But if they lose that game after what happened last week, it's like the Bills are dead. What a catastrophe. They let Travis Kelsey throw a pass in the middle of a play to beat them. And let alone what happened last week. It's like, Bills are dead. What a catastrophe. They let Travis Kelsey throw a pass in the middle of a play to beat them, let alone what happened last week. It's like, you're right, I guess, that we do maybe overreact a little bit to some small stuff.

Team vibes, especially for the Bills. Could you imagine that flight back to Baghdad if they lost to Kansas City? It'd be a nightmare. They play in Buffalo. Excuse me. Buffalo. Touche, Connor. They play in Buffalo. Excuse me. Buffalo. Touché, Connor. Some of your best.

Thanks, Aaron. Last couple days, he's been seeing the ball. Been sitting on that one. Yeah, he's been seeing the laces pretty good as it's coming up. What do we got today on the shirt? What do we got? It's 10 Wolves, but there's only four Wolves that you can see. Then you've got to find the other six.

Like, where's Waldo? Nice. In other news, AQ, you got any plays coming up that you can see, then you've got to find the other six. Where's Waldo? Nice. In other news, AQ, do you have any plays coming up that you need some advice on about? No, but can we all agree that if that's the hot route we're throwing,

we've got bigger problems? This was from five weeks ago. A lot of people probably don't know what you're referring to. Kenny Pickett, whenever he was the quarterback for the Steelers and Matt Canada was still the offensive coordinator, there was a play in which he threw a quick at to the running back. Three wide receivers were lined up in a bunch formation. They all ran go routes pretty much.

They had post-corner under. Whatever the case. You get it. They're gone. Not blocking. Bad play. Running back tackle for a seven-yard loss. One of the most dysfunctional-looking offensive plays

that the NFL has seen in a while. And AQ said, somebody's going to block. What are we doing? And Aaron just said, hey, big dumb dipshit. Hey. And you know what you said? It's kind of basically. Not at all.

I would never disrespect a lineman like that. And I love in the trenches. And I think you do a great job. Hey, baby. Hey, kid. Thanks, Aaron. It's going to be warm. It's good to be back on Tuesday with you today, too.

It was really – I enjoyed it. I know you're kind of – you're sensitive. You were ignoring me and our Tuesday for a little bit. But it's good to have you back. Bygones be bygones. Keep up the good work, man. Love your segment. Love DB's segment.

You know, it's helping people be smarter, and that's all I want is to help you. If you're trying to talk quarterback play, just maybe give me a side text just to make sure that, you know, we're on the same page. I need to get on that sidebar. Aaron, here's the thing. The reason why this happened is because a quarterback,

the reason why In the Trenches even exists is because a quarterback, a man we spoke highly of earlier. That's right. So he'll hear this. He'll get mad that we're saying this. Aaron just saying his praises. Cancels it out. Dan Orlovsky.

No, no, no, no, no, no. Just, you know. Broken clock is right twice a day. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, And I love it. But I think we all should hold on to our truths. Hold on to them, but we're not gripping them as tightly as possible. Because obviously, as we've seen, science can change in an instant. And you never know what the narrative is going to be moving forward. But I love In the Trenches. I think it's definitely something we all can learn from. And then, obviously, DB highlights.

You know, I think it's the guys who don't get as much attention because our league is, you know, often so it's specific on who gets the attention. It's quarterbacks. It's, you know, a few skilled players here and there, pass rushers, you know, but highlighting the big boys and then the guys doing maybe the most difficult position in our sport, which is covering, especially a nickel defender covering two-way, really a three-way go at all times.

So it's awesome. Love it. And then A.J., just what a warrior A. warrior AJ is to be able to show up here day after day after some of the things that go on. Peacock feathers, whips.

The whole thing. The nipple taser sensor thing. These guys. These are all things that you currently probably have in your basement or some other room in your house. Let's move away from you guys doing whips and chains, handcuffs

and everything. Let's talk about in the house right behind you there. Here's some books. Is it time? Assassination of Chinese. He's got some good ones on the docket. I got some good ones on the docket. I got some great ones on the back here, yeah. Oh, yeah. No Ayn Rand, but I got some great ones.

That's quite a convo. Let's see if I can pick one. No, no, no. Let's not just randomly pick a book club. No way. No way. Not this book club. I've got two great ones.

One I'm almost finished with, and one I'm definitely finished with. It's sadly a very controversial book. Never want to get into it. Harry Potter. What's it called? Well, that would be book club. I'm going to tell you. Okay.

What is it? It's called C-Word, or is it in that vein, or which vein is it? It's the author. Yeah, just so we know. Just so I know what I'm signing up for, my mentions. Just so I know what my mentions are signing up for. What did he say? Info Wars, Alex Jones, what is it?

He's back on X. Yeah, new video game out now. Go get it quick. Yep. Back on X. AlexJonesGame.com. I learned about Alex Jones and everything he's about four days before he got banned from the internet. Now he's back.

He is. Feels like that's been 10 years. Two hour app. Jesus. Are we making some stuff today? I'm broke. Okay. All right.

I can't pay anybody. So. Sorry. That's all happened since I learned of this guy. And I go, sorry. That's all that happens. I learn to this guy, and I go, oh, this is an awesome internet. This is an awesome internet character. And I guess there's a lot of people that were taking everything he was saying very serious. Including himself.

Which I think he got lost. He worked himself into a shoot. He did. I think he worked himself into a shoot in that entire thing. And then he just got kicked off the internet completely. Just see ya. Not allowed to exist. I had no idea he was kicked off because I thought Will Sasso was Alex Jones for like six years.

Bingo. Bingo. He's back. Alex Jones is back. Still has his fastball. Yes, he does. I'm sure people are pumped about that. His wife has her fastball too. Really? Yeah. Let's get the fuck out of here. Aaron, we appreciate you, buddy. We appreciate the hell out of you, pal. Thank you for spending time with us.

What do you guys got coming up? Are you guys all done now? No, we got Coach Rule, Matt Rule of Nebraska in about 10 minutes or so. You know, he came out in a press conference and said, hey, good quarterbacks, a million, two million bucks. That's where we're at right now. Like, just let everybody know, because he was big in college, goes to the NFL, comes back to college,

whole new world from the time he was at Carolina. So we're just going to pick his brain on that. You know, see how everything's going in Nebraska. Yeah. You know, I thought about something real quick. Here's a book. We got one. Yep.

Here we go. I want to just highlight a book that. Play a gong in her. Oh, that's a good book. Just like, is there a better book than this one? That's the best one. Not many. Not many better.

Hey, that was a book club book last year, I think. It was. Two years ago. I saw it on the shelf back there. It's a very good, you know, advertising, the orange. Not quite the color that AJ has in his mouth a lot, but definitely close, I believe. He doesn't like clementines?

What's going on? I love that. Aaron, hygge, dude. Hygge. What does it mean? Cherish the little things. You know, cherish the little things. Jake Ryan, right? Aren't those his hats? No, he's from Norway. Yeah, shout out

to Jake. And we'll get you to see if we can get some sent out there. I don't know if there's one big enough for AQ's head, but I think we'll get something out. He's going to war. He's going to war tonight. We don't know how it's going to go. He might not come back.

You're going to war tonight? You're doing the war games tonight? Yeah, war games. That's actually. It is. We're going tonight. It starts tomorrow. Tonight's reception. That's the true thing. William Regal's there. He's going to start It starts tomorrow. Tonight's reception.

William Regal's there. That's the truth. We should show him the fucking bag over here. Danny and Tommy going to be shipping out tonight? What if you do get bagged over your head and tossed in a van, dropped in the middle of fucking woods and say if you make it back, you can maybe have a weekend with the Seals. That's possible.

Might happen. We'll see. We'll see how this goes. You and Jack Osborne weekend with the seals figure it out. That's possible. All right, we'll see. We'll see how this goes You and Jack Osborne walking through the woods. Yeah Shooting the shit. Tell me about your dad What person Dick said he goes well as soon as I told him he was going he was like you won't be last You'll be fine. Jeez Jack Osborne you have the same reaction. Yeah, you're damn right. He's turned his wife around. That guy's Jack now. Yeah, boom. Oh, you might be last. Better hope you don't see that guy in the woods. He's a survivalist?

He's a survivalist. You're fucked, dude. Navy SEALs, actual survivalists, and then now Jack Osborne appears to be living on a mountain. You're fucked, dude. I've been training for this. I'm ready. So is he. Putting on a SEAL hoodie is not the same thing.

This is Jack's Super Bowl. I put Lolita's whale costume on. I wasn't a whale all of a sudden. That's not how it works. Alright, Aaron. Have a great Tuesday. Easy, bro. Easy with the Lolita part. There's another name associated with that.

Oh, no. He's talking about the bomb. Go ahead. Fill him in, Aaron. Oh, no. Express. Fill him in, Aaron. Fill him in. You probably took a few rides on that plane. Is it time now? Can we finally release the logs? You've got to be on those flight logs.

He's talking about the news. I'm not sure. I think the guy had an island. I came in about two weeks ago pretty jacked up because it felt as though there'd be some more information being released. What about the submarine? Who was all, you know what I mean? They're talking about through the sky.

What about underneath the water? Anyways, sounds like there's some real fucking weirdos. Would it be ironic if, remember when I said it like a while back, they were thinking about releasing the logs which they were and then Jimmy Jimmy Kimmel took a little shot at me would it be ironic if he was on the on the flight logs would be ironic I don't know how this whole thing goes but the fact

that all these humans are involved in it and allegedly and they will all have to respond to Aaron on this particular show saying that can't wait you know what I mean yes can't wait for that and then't wait. You know what I mean? Yes. Can't wait for that. And then.

No, I didn't name any. I just, would it be ironic if the person who, you know, was taking a shot at me was actually on those? That would be. That would be irony. Not saying he was on there. You know, but it would be, would be ironic. And Fauci's at his house right now.

Just like, yeah, yeah. Let's stay on that. Yeah. Please, please. Let's stay on that. Yeah, please, please. Let's stay on that, you know, just thinking of him. I mean, how about that audio that was released? He said. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. I didn't hear that. All right. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. You're the best. We're off ESPN, so it doesn't fucking matter anymore. Agreed, agreed. But also, like.

Shout out to YouTube, though, the real fans. That's right. ESPN Plus now. Love ESPN Plus. Yeah. ESPN is never sick. That's fake behind you as well, though. That's fake.

AJ's. AJ's fake. That's fake. This? Have you seen? AJ's. AJ's. Circle. AJ's fake. That's fake. Circle. This? That was nice. Hey, have you seen? There's a great video that made me laugh thinking about that. There's a guy doing an interview with somebody, and his background, which looks kind of like that.

There's a missile that comes in. Have you guys seen this video? Oh, yeah. A missile that comes in in the background. It comes in, and it just blows up the scene behind the guy doing the interview. And the people who are getting interviewed freak out. Well, I'd say, yeah. How close are we to this?

How close are we to the camera here? I think there's some real stuff going on. That's like the thing in New York, the window there, clearly. That is live feed of you. Yeah, it's like Channel 7 News. Action shot above the city right now live looking chopper five real window of course but if it wasn't it would be a live exactly live feed of that whole thing speaking of choppers

oh thank you all right thank you i'll get to the chopper ladies and gentlemen so something came out about helicopters i assume oh yeah let's get to the chopper, ladies and gentlemen. Something came out about helicopters, I assume. Let's get to a break. There's plenty of stuff coming out right now. Jeez Louise. These last two weeks have been wild. Sounds like it. Oh, yeah.

And I'm not kidding. The Obama movie is actually getting a lot of like, you see what they're doing? They're spelling it out for you right in front of you. I assume. It's awesome. I just heard that's a real shock. It's a movie.

Bonne, s'pau, bonne, s'pau, bonneer. Yeah. Oh, come on. The similar don't look up? No. Oh, no. Space bit. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's the first one made in a while.

I haven't really shot in a long time. I felt good. All right, we'll do a giveaway at the end. All right, let's take five minutes. Matt Rule will be on the other side. I assume the conversation will be vastly different than the one we just had with Aaron Rodgers. Probably. Maybe. I learned a lot there. Yeah, you never know. AJ, what's going on in your

house? He kind of gets on this one track mind and he kind of drives it into the dirt. So that's what we're dealing with right now. We've got to just let him get all the material out, whatever he's trying to come up with and then he'll move on to something else. You seem to love it. You seem to really enjoy it.

That's what we're dealing with right now. I know what's happening. I see it. Come on. Okay. You can see the wheels turning and trying to come up with something. Oh, a ball gag. Oh, whatever he can think of.

That was good. And that comes out. Get hit, too. Ball gag was good. Come on. And then he was like, oh, I got more. I mean, it's all recycled Bobby Carpenter material. Believe me, he's taking a lot of this material from Bob.

Oh! That's actually a compliment. I steal from Bob as well, his material. Is that right? Well, the General. I'll pass a good one. The General's getting plagiarized all day. General writing lines for AJ?

Mastermind. The General's a script writer. Yeah. For some of the most influential people. That's good. That's really good. Happened last night. That man has played a lot of football.

And I don't know what else, to be honest. Yeah. That's true. Your friendship is an interesting one with Aaron Rodgers. Ladies and gentlemen, that's A.J. Hawk. He's been in your bedroom before, he said. Yeah, not with you guys. Hey, great new haircut, though.

It looks sweet. The Toxic Table is here at Boss Corner. Net tie, Schmidt. One half of the hammer. Don. Cowboys 10. Diggs is here. 12-year NFL vet and Super Bowl champion.

A man who's going to war tonight, A.Q. Shipley. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, also here. A.J., haven't had a chance to chat with you as we wait for Coach Rule's tech. We're trying to figure out audio, trying to connect with Coach Rule. This is the perfect time to ask you about what your thoughts were on the games last night because we haven't got a chance to get your take on this whole thing. Packers lose to Tommy Cutlets. Paisano, who has inspired not only a team, but an entire

region and maybe even a country. Maybe even a country in this entire thing. What are your thoughts on the Packers getting that loss last night? And what does this mean about Tommy Cutlets and the New York Giants in your eyes? I mean, obviously, Tommy Cutlets, Tommy DeVito has taken over maybe the world. You're right with his whole family. The pregame tailgate, everything they're doing. He's honestly playing well. He's moving the ball. Watching him maneuver throughout the pocket and complete some of those balls down the field,

it was fun to watch his family and agent obviously get after it in the crowd. This was one that Green Bay needed to win. This sucks for Green Bay. It sucks for Jordan Love and the defense unable to get stops when they needed to. But, man, Green Bay really needed this one. Tommy's got wheels.

Tommy's got wiggle. Tommy's got boxing. Doesn't he? Tommy's got it all. He's literally everything you'd want in a starting quarterback. Now, how's his size? Well, when he was talking to Aaron Rodgers, they were looking eye-to-eye. It worked for Aaron.

He hasn't got his opportunity yet until now, so we have no idea how long this run's going to go for. We know that maybe his stats, although Tone Diggs opened the show, was saying they're comparable to Patrick Mahomes'. So, you tell me. It's like, what if in five years from now, and Aaron kind of got upset about it, what if

five years from now, we're talking about got upset about what if five years from now we're talking about tommy bolognese exactly tommy cutlets being an actual guy that's fantastic news because let me tell you about the italian culture it is an entertaining one and we are already starting to witness it you know what i mean they're having they're having sundae gravy literally in the parking lot yeah they look so good so good the whole the whole family is there the entire everybody is there and they're just embracing it right today hey where's the camera i want to tell i am the most italian person you've ever seen and then somebody pushes them out of the way they come in with a top hat three pieces two pinky rings they go i am the most italian i am pumped for this story aj are you thinking the same thing about Tommy DeVito?

Is this flash in the pan? Or do we got a real opportunity here to celebrate something awesome with the New York Giants? I think we might have it. I think we might have a real opportunity here, honestly. And you know what I love about what his whole family and everything they're doing? They're having a great time. Isn't that what you want? If your son is out there, he's quarterbacking the New York football Giants.

Like, they have to be pitching themselves at times, thinking this is awesome. Not only is he out there playing, he's winning games for this Giants team. Like, yeah, all of it's amazing. I hear his agent, too, is an absolute hustler. People respect that guy. He's good. He's more FaceTimed than ever. I know he's happy, too.

Who's that? The agent. Oh, yeah. I mean, he's certainly pumped. But to be clear, a lot of agents get on camera. Oh, yeah. Not all of them just command the attention of the camera with the way they show up in their mocks he's not fake either this guy's real deal oh yeah

it's a real deal it's an honor and there's a story going around i guess that he uh what was the story up there in uh in massachusetts yeah so allegedly he was a uh used to be a wide receivers coach for a high school team st john's prep's Prep, small school, Catholic school, up north in Mass. Then he also was training people in his basement, and he has a lot of the players from the local area who aren't the starting quarterbacks, but those third-string guys who play on multiple

teams. He's got, essentially, a monopoly on those guys. Those are his boys. He used to be a wide receiver, too. Yeah, he used to play wide receiver, yep. He did look like he had a little athleticism. Oh, yeah. He's got some wiggle. Oh, yeah. It's a real monster.

I'm happy about the story. I'm pumped about it. Congrats to the Giants. Sorry to the Packers. Yeah, thanks. Dolphins lose to the Titans. You picked the Titans plus 14. I think everybody was.

I had to fade you due to the standings of the weekend. You go ahead and win this week against the spread. We'll talk about Vrabes and that Titans team and the Dolphins going forward at a later time. Because right now, we have an incredible opportunity. We're getting a chance to chat with a guy who was an incredibly successful coach at Temple.

What? At Baylor. Why? So successful at Baylor. Hey, listen, college game day was down there. The eyes of the world were on Baylor. And the reason why we know how successful he was, because an NFL owner flew their asses to Waco, Texas, okay Baylor. And the reason why we know how successful he was, because an NFL owner flew their asses to Waco, Texas, okay, and said, what's all here?

Well, Dr. Pepper, I think, was founded here. There was some other stuff that happened in Waco. Magnolia Farms. Magnolia Farms with Chip and Joanna Gaines. And then there was something else that happened way back in the day. Bingo. We're going to the head coach to sign him to the biggest deal that has ever been kind of public in the NFL. The head coach, that's how big his brain was. He goes to Carolina. It doesn't work

out. Will anybody work out in Carolina? We have no idea. Now he's back at Nebraska leading the Cornhuskers in a brand new era of college football and big 10 football. Ladies and gentlemen, head coach Matt Rule. Hey, thanks for waiting through the technical difficulties. That's 100% my fault. I do apologize for making you wait. How are you, coach? How's life? We feel good back in college ball again, back on the 24-7 grind of college football?

Man, I love it. I love game days in college. Recruiting's gotten a little different now. Now you're recruiting your team, another team, high school kids, so it's a little different recruiting, but the players are awesome. They're all here for the right reasons, man. It's been a lot of fun, and Nebraska's a special place.

Go ahead, AJ. Coach, how do you find those players that are a good fit for you and your program? We're always hearing about, yeah, you've got to worry about people entering the portal and all of that. But how do you now, especially with how recruiting is, how do you know now that you're back in the college game, do you look at it any differently than you did before? Yeah, I think you have to.

I think you have to find players that are coming here for the right reasons. I don't think you can recruit them. You can't do a sales job. You have to tell them exactly what it's going to be like. I think nowadays young people want transparency. They want them exactly what it's going to be like i think nowadays young people want transparency they want to know what it's going to be like um and so you better you better just keep it very real with them tell the parents tell them this is what it's going to be like here uh have conversations and relationships with them like they got gone are the days of like you show up and there's five other linebackers

you know and you're like they're going to know every player that you're talking to and it's what it should be, be honest. And I think when you find that, when you find someone that really wants to be at Nebraska, you take them. And, you know, you have them for four or five years because it's hard to win with guys for only a year or two. Yeah, building a program is going to be tough, seemingly, in this modern transfer portal era.

I think there's over 1,000 guys in there right now. And you talked about how you've got to recruit high school guys, other teams, and your own team. Each year you kind of have to make sure people stay as Nebraska Cornhuskers. Sound like you're trying to recruit out of high school that way. Now, there's headlines being made right now about you having massive success coming out of high school. Congrats.

Here you go, Matt. Congrats. Hey, you're not allowed to talk about it, I don't think. The NCAA has really strict rules that are really good and fair. You're not allowed to talk about it. And then also, Transfer Portal, there's big conversation happening about you. How involved in all of that? How much are you preparing for the future with Transfer Portal guys,

like for two years potentially signing a free agent, first building the roster? How do you kind of balance the modern day of college football recruiting now that you're back in it and expected to be great in college football? I think each team's different. I think for us, we'll be like 90% high school and high school recruiting and high school development. It's kind of who we are. I mean, when you,

when you went to a place like Temple, when you went at Baylor, you like getting guys in and practicing them and developing them. And, you know, and you want them to you want them to want to stay. So and then we'll we'll you know, we'll augment it with a player here, a player there, someone maybe you have a connection to or relationship with. But even even in my time in the NFL, both as an assistant at the Giants and then our time in Carolina, it was really important to me. Like in Carolina, like I wanted to resign Christian like in Carolina like I wanted to re-sign Christian McCaffrey I wanted to re-sign DJ Moore I wanted I wanted to be the guy that was taking care of his own guys in the locker room not always going outside the locker and I think at this level it's important to me that our locker room knows that you know what

the coach cares about them he's not always you're not going to bust your tail for three years and all of a sudden coach is going to bring someone in ahead of you so that's really important to us try to do as much high school as possible, but when the time comes and you can get a difference maker, like you better go get them. And there's some out there. Yeah. How do you,

you said we have your press conference actually two weeks. It was a big deal for me because I too, now you've been in a long time, but I'm getting like baptized in college football, obviously followed college football and like knew what teams were good and everything like that. But I grew up in Pittsburgh, so like I didn't fully understand college football as a whole. And then now we're in this massive transition era. So this press conference that you had just a couple of weeks ago was like very eye opening, I think, for me and a lot of people about the state of college football.

Here's you looking incredibly handsome by the way from a few weeks ago make no mistake that a good quarterback in the portal costs you know a million to a million five to two million dollars right now so just just just want the same page right so um let's make sure we all understand what's happening so um um you know there's some teams that have six six or seven million dollar players playing for them my My favorite line in there, not only the information, because that was certainly information I think a lot of people were excited to learn because we hear the chatter, but basically when you say, so that's what, just so we know, like that is what life is. It was almost like you were explaining to people like, hey, this is what college football is right now.

That really needed to be said. Thankful thankful for that is there like just a slotted amount seemingly already made for different positions and is there like do you is there somebody that manages the amount of money that you like how it's professional right this is like professional ball all of a sudden yeah well you know and and i took some people were not happy with me i've had some other college coaches kind of get on me and say matt you know you reset the market um but i do think it's important that people know right because a what i'm afraid of is you know i'm like no like you said i went to the nfl i'm like i don't care i'm gonna say what i think is right and when people like it they like it they don't like it they don't like it like i'm gonna say what's happening and

um at the end of the day there are no contracts there are no this is and charlie baker from the ncaa is trying to make it where the college is like, we can't even have the conversation with the players about the money. So now you have all throughout college football, you have players getting agents. Sometimes they're great agents, NFL agents. Sometimes they're not certified. There's no NFLPA regulating it. They're dealing with third parties for each school. Each school has a different amount, um it's it's it's there's no system to it i had an nfl gm text me this week and he was like

bro how come you guys don't just make it binding how come you got i said i said we can't even have a conversation or else we get in trouble so it's them dealing with a third party they can tell a kid hey you're going to get a million dollars and then they can show you can transfer from nebraska go somewhere else and then they say hey you know what we don't have that money anymore and oh by the way once you transfer you're stuck at the second school so you actually get penalized like you get penalized for recruiting a kid out of high school he can leave for more money somewhere else but if he goes somewhere else he's stuck there till he graduates so there is no system and i think it's important that people know that.

Because you know what? Pat, some good coaches are losing their jobs, and some good programs, they're building players up, and then players are leaving. And I'm all for players. Let me just say this. I'm all for players making money. Absolutely. I'm all for it.

I just don't think people should be walking into your program and offering a player on your roster money. That would never happen in the NFL. You've got to trade it. You have rules. There's conversations that have to – there's a little bit of some morality to this entire thing. Yeah, and so I worry about the players. I mean, some players are going to get a lot, but a lot of players are going to enter the portal and end up with nothing.

A lot of players are going to be told they're getting X, Y, and Z and get nothing. And at the end of the day, not everyone goes to the NFL. So I think we have to have the conversation about it we have to talk about it and not talk about it to get rid of it just man like make it competitive and make it real yeah and the issue is it would have to be collectively bargained is what everybody says so who becomes the players union who represents them because those people have to be good but what really legitimately sound person that is a good business person wants to take that job instead of what they're currently doing? Like, it is – it's almost seemingly looking ahead.

I've thought about this a lot, too, because I feel like NIL deals are a lot in the world that we live in. And, like, I'm a former player who has always been like, hey, Pat White deserved to get paid whenever he was at West Virginia. Steve Slayton deserved to get paid whenever he was at West Virginia. Steve Slayton deserved to get paid whenever he was at West Virginia. I watched a couple guys build up an entire campus, like change an entire university over a four year run pretty much, and they didn't see any of it. And it was like, so I've been

pretty wide open about it, but it's like to sign up and do that would be a tall, impossible task. It's like it's an interesting time here because everybody agrees that there's a problem. I think everybody, every coach we've had on, every commissioner that we've had come on,

and I'd assume players that are getting screwed and fucked for the first time in their life, realizing that these deals aren't real, they probably would like there to be some sort of binding guidelines in this entire thing. But how's it happen? Coach, have you thought about that? Have you given a take on how we figure it out?

Because I don't know what the answer is, and I've tried to figure out what it would be. I think, as I said, that Charlie Baker at the NCAA mentioned this week about letting schools pay the money themselves. Because to your point, Pat White and Steve Slayton would have ended that year and they would have had every school in the country saying, hey, come play here. We've got guys playing at three schools now. You know, you got guys playing

seven years. And again, I'm not talking about any one situation. I'm talking about in general. There's guys playing like, yeah, like eight years. They wouldn't have. They would have been. They would have had a lot of temptation to leave West Virginia. And again, every situation is a little different. But like, I think the school should have the opportunity to engage in communication and negotiations. Like you're in the NFL. What does your agent take, 3%, 4%? Max 3%.

Yeah, 3%, right? So these guys, because it's marketing, because it's NIL, but guys are giving away 20% of what they make to agents that are working with. And so now you're talking about 20 after taxes which is really like 35 um you know i you know who's helping you know who's helping these guys we're really lucky in nebraska we have an amazing collective 1890 like they do they they do tax work with the kids they they they they help them with all the all these things because like people don't understand capital gains i don't even know so so i just think there's a way bigger thing out there that's going to happen and right now people have covid years people this is all going

to change in a couple years and there's going to be a bunch of guys as the numbers go down there's going to be a bunch of guys that went in the portal they're going to have to walk on somewhere and um i just think at the end of the day like we should be fighting for players and we're fighting for players to make money but also not to get screwed along the way I think letting the schools be involved I didn't take this job until they handed me a contract I'm pretty sure I saw your deal Pat

you're talking about my deal at Carolina I saw your deal no one has seen my deal people think they've seen my deal they have not. You know, they have not. But I understand what you're saying. Yes.

You're not doing that until we have a, like, hey, who's paying? When are we paying? How's the money coming? What do I have to do? What do you have to do? What's expectations? Okay, now here we go. And then there's lawsuits that come on the other side if either side doesn't hold up the end of the bargain now nobody wants to sue anybody you hope to get into business with each other for

good reason for a long time want to be great partners but in college football we've seen there's over a thousand shit doesn't work sometimes and it's like what happens all that i haven't even thought about that entire narrative of like deals not being paid and then those agents that are taking 20 where do they go go? Oh, they got another client. What a scene. What a scene in there right now. Go ahead, comment. The kid from Florida last year

who plays D-line with the Bears, now his deal was 25% of his career earnings for the rest of his life. Jesus. Hey, Coach, we'll figure it out, dude. Come on. Figure it out. Let's skip that whole conversation, though.

Let's get past that. Let's talk about your team now. How do we feel? How do we feel about the team? We got to feel pretty good after the first year, right, with where Nebraska had been. And obviously, I think what I've learned from movies and watching on the internet and watching games,

great fan base over there in Nebraska, right? Well, it's outrageous. Like, I've never been somewhere where they are, the people are in the stands to watch warm-ups. Like, the stadium is full 45 minutes before the game because they appreciate their Cornhuskers so much they want to watch all the players warm up. And they stay till the end.

And so, you know, we had a fun year, man. We were up and down. We were 5-3 at one point. We lost the last four all by a field goal or an overtime. We got a great young team. We'll be a team, I believe, in the coming years that everyone in college football is going to have to deal with. And I think it's great what's happening with the Big Ten. You know, we're a national brand now.

We're like a mini NFL. I mean, we go from Oregon and Washington, USC, to Penn State, Rutgers. And then here we are in the middle of the country, just kind of sneaky, quiet, with an amazing fan base, elite facilities. We can fly wherever we want to recruit. I think we'll be pretty good. Okay, I love that. That's probably the reason why you took the gig, right?

Because a lot of places want to mat-roll whenever you're out of the Carolina Panthers back in college because of your success. I assume you experience all those things whenever you're doing your interviews and sites? Yeah, you know, it wasn't cool to get fired. That wasn't fun, not to get fired in the middle of the season, but it gave me time. So my wife and I, we flew out here. We flew out here on a game day weekend. We wanted to see the town.

I didn't have a great picture of what Nebraska was going to look like. I thought maybe like a campus and some farms and a small little town. I got here, man. It's a huge, huge city. Not huge. A really nice-sized city. I drive 45 minutes to Omaha. It's unbelievable.

Country, concerts, College World Series. Unbelievable. Jeez! You fell in love. Yeah, well, Julie and I were like, you know what? Like, we wanted to raise our kids somewhere nice with nice people. These people here are nice. We wanted to live in the middle of the country, in the Midwest, good values, good people, good everything.

And Trev Alberts was a former football player. He's the AD here. And when you have a guy that understands what it takes to win in the office above you, you have a chance to win. And I've learned that. I've learned, like, I have to have a great partner. And Trev's a great partner. So I said, hey, let's do it. And I've loved every minute of it since I got here.

Congratulations on finding a home. Now, Ty has a question for you on that note. Yeah, Coach, you mentioned in a couple years, hey, I think the whole country is going to realize Nebraska is kind of a team to be reckoned with, and as an Iowa alum and an Iowa fan, right when you got hired, I was like, oh, shit, Nebraska's going to be good again in a couple years. So I'll echo that sentiment, but to what you said, and you look at, I was like, oh, shit, Nebraska's going to be good again in a couple years. So I'll echo that sentiment.

But to what you said, and you look at Nebraska's fan base, granted, they haven't been good for a while now, but in terms of being a blue-blood national program, they expect to win. How, and considering what you've done at Baylor and Temple, how long do you estimate it takes to actually kind of rebuild the program and get guys in who you know you're going to be able to compete in the Big Ten every single year, especially when that allure to just go in the transfer portal and get guys right away and try to turn around in one season.

How long would you guess it actually takes to go from where you guys are at right now to where you want to be where you're contending for big 10 championships you know it took us it took us three years at temple and it took us three years at baylor so when i got here i thought you know we would be relevant the first year and i hoped in you know year three year two year three year four that we would be contending um the the unique thing with the portal is um a lot of other coaches and i mean this with the greatest of respect they left another job. They were in another college job, and so they brought part of their team with them. And so, you know, I left Carolina.

I didn't get to bring Brian Burns. I didn't get to bring Stephon Gilmore. I didn't get to bring Christian McCaffrey. So, you know, I wasn't bringing anyone that was playing for me. But, you know, you look at the great job that, you know, like Coach Sanders has done at Colorado and obviously bringing his son and bringing Travis Hunter. And, you know, he brought great players with him. You know, Lincoln, who was a great friend of mine, goes to USC. He takes Caleb Williams with him. You know, we just came in and we started, you know, we started differently. So we just said, you know what, let's do it like we did at Temple and Baylor. Let's

recruit young players. Let's play them. You know, we felt like we would be in every game this year. You go back and look at it, we were in every game. You know, we lost five games by three points or less. You know, we got beat up by Michigan. Michigan got after us, and Colorado got away from us. But we'll be in every game next year again, I believe. I love that thought of building it because you love coaching, I assume, right? That's probably – you just love coaching.

I love coaching. You know how proud I am? Like, you I'm proud I am when I turn on the NFL and I see like Deion Dawkins and Tyquan Thornton and Tyler Maticiewicz and, you know, Jalen Petrie, who was like a no-star recruit, who was the only guy left over at Baylor. And he's one of the dominant safeties for the Texans now. And I love that. I love that relationship with the players. And so, you know, when I got fired in Carolina, two things happened. A couple of the players on the team came over to my house afterwards, which normally doesn't happen in the NFL. And, but what else, the second thing that happened was a bunch of my old college guys that I'd coached, it was almost like I was dead. Like they were

eulogizing me. They were like, coach, man, this is what you meant to me. And I was like, bro, I'm not dead. I just got fired. But, but it was like, you know what, I'm getting back into college because we're talking about the portal but young people still need adults and they need coaches to believe in them and push them and help them and you know we first you know we need we need to have first generation kids go to college and graduate and we need all kinds of things to happen that isn't always being talked about but we're going to try to win at the highest level and still make sure guys get an education and make sure guys live good lives and you know what if we do that we're doing something try to win at the highest level and still make sure guys get an education and make sure guys live good lives.

And you know what, if we do that, we're doing something right. And, uh, you know, coaches probably change your guys' lives at some point, you know,

good or bad. We just want to be one of the good ones. Yeah. Hey, there has been bad, obviously, but the good ones do affect your life forever. I love the thought.

We haven't brought it up yet, you know, cause you're at Nebraska. You never going back to the NFL. You think never, I, you know, the thing about being an nfl head coach coming from college is that you're coming from college like i would do like you know you start off and you do something and they're like hot this college guy even though you even though you took it from coach coughlin who's a hall of famer you're like hey guys i mean i uh pat stewart who i think aj might know from

ohio state pat had been at pat had been in new eng. He'd be like, hey, this is a great idea. Or Matt Lombardi would be like, hey, we did this with Brian Flores, and you do it. And everyone's like, oh, this college guy. Oh, my God. This is not my idea. But, you know, I mean, I hit it a really weird time. And I came in. COVID was really hard because they didn't really know me.

And so all of a sudden I show up, and I'm a college guy, new staff, and we're meeting over a Zoom call. Like that last year, you know, I was already on my way out. But I was really proud about the guys. The guys battled, you know, and so. But I think this is where I'm supposed to be, man. I think I'm supposed to be in college. I love this. And I'll just hopefully turn out a bunch of pro players from Nebraska

and watch great coaches like, you know, Kevin O'Connell and Sean McVay do their thing at that level. Yeah, and raise your kids out there. Go watch a volleyball game, a women's volleyball game in front of a sold-out stadium, and then go see Luke Combs at night and just probably low taxes, if I had to guess. Yep. Live out there. You haven't seen anything until you've seen Husker Volleyball, and they play this Thursday.

They're outrageous. They're such amazing athletes. Yeah, you know, to your point, it's pretty cool. I have 10- and 8-year-old daughters, man, and I take them to the women's volleyball game. I take them to the women's basketball game, the men's basketball game. There's something about being on a college campus that's pretty cool. And, yes, the Texas are pretty good.

And there's great concerts, man. Old Dominion and Chase Rice this past weekend came to town. So we always have something good going in Nebraska. Chase Rice, good luck to your North Carolina Tar Heels in the Mayo Bowl, pal. Last time we met at that particular stadium, Chase Rice played his last football game. They win? No, they lost to the West Virginia Mountaineers. Oh, okay.

Yeah, by one. You know what I mean? Oh, is that right? Yeah, it was a good time. Anyways, AJ has a question for you, Coach. Coach, after your time in Carolina, did you give any thought to maybe taking a year off? I know Coach is Coach. You want to get right back into it.

But what was your thought process after that? Yeah, I was absolutely, AJ, going to take a year off. I was tired. You know, I was beat up. And I was like, hey, I'm going to take my time and find the right job and i think two things happened i got fired so early that i had the rest of that year which was almost kind of like a year off and like my wife and i traveled we went to ireland man we first bar we sit down and i'm like i just want to be away the the gentleman walks up to the bar you know the order to guinness and he's like are you matt rule i'm like oh my gosh man he was like

he's like i love the red zone i'm a jets fan you know and i mean it was just it was just like you know what i'm a coach man let's go back let's get back to work but i wouldn't have taken any job um i wasn't going to coach i was going to take a year you know on my contract i had to find a job so i knew i had to honor my contract and i wasn't just going to take any job though and and nebraska came open as i said trev and it's one thing to go to a school that's never done it before and try to be the first to win a championship. Every day I walk through this building, I walk by five national championship trophies. It's another thing to get a place back to where it was.

I walk by three Heismans. I go out to practice, and I have Frank Solich and Tom Osborne at practice watching. I got Eric Crouch and Tommy Frazier. I mean, it's a pretty cool place. So I wouldn't have coached had it not been for this. But, yeah, I really thought about taking a year. But, you know, this is what I do. I'll do this until I die.

Guinness? We're beer? We'll go to Guinness beer? Is that where we're drinking? Yeah, if I'm in Pittsburgh, I'm going to have an Icy Light. If I'm there, I'm going to have a Guinness. I believe in regional beers. I believe in Eastern PA.

I'm going to get a head of Yingling. I believe in sampling what's happening where you are. What's there in Nebraska? They got some corn, IPA. Yuck. Yeah, there's some good things. I don't want to say anything out because I don't want to get in trouble here. I don't want one brewery mad at me.

What I will say is there's elite bourbons here. You have access here to some of the best bourbons. So if you'd like to sip on a little bourbon every once in a while, it's a great place to come. Yeah, sounds like you're selling the shit out of this thing. Getting the job. Gary says a question for you. Yeah.

We'll get game day soon. Hey, okay. Say that one more time. You weren't on the camera there. I'm sorry. We'll get game day soon. Hey, okay. Say that one more time. You weren't on the camera there. I'm sorry. We had game day at Temple. We had game day at Baylor. We'll get game day here soon.

Okay. Hell yeah. Clip. Boom. Bang. Let's go. When this happens, you know, in the next year or so, it'll be a sweet clip. It's like, this fucking Matt Rule guy.

He knew. He knew what was going to happen. I'm sorry go ahead d but now matt i got a question you obviously have been into some a few different colleges and obviously had a head coaching job as well in the nfl how uh similar or different are those interviews during that process uh in ncaa and in the nfl yeah that's a great question man because i you know i think in my time uh before i took the Panthers job, I had interviewed for like two or three jobs the previous couple of years. And so each one was a little different. Some it's an owner, some use a search firm. The jobs are so different. So much of the NFL is economics. It's money. It's how are we going to allocate this? How are we going to allocate that? How are you going to work with the GM? how are we going to allocate this? How are we going to allocate that?

How are you going to work with the GM? I really, you know, people don't understand like to me, the salary cap person is as important as the GM. So a lot of it focused kind of on those things. As in college, you know, your conversations are about recruiting, about academics, about discipline. You know, you certainly didn't worry about academics and really even discipline in the NFL. So it was much more of a, Hey, you know, is there something special we're going to do here? Like if you're in Indianapolis,

Hey, are we going to play fast and have great pass rushers trying to get a lead? And cause we're playing in the dome or Hey, if we're playing in green Bay, are we going to play a little differently, you know, with the weather? So there's, there's a little bit of that, I think, but a lot of it to me is the NFL is about player acquisition and player retention. And it's, it's, it's all economics. It's about, it's about who's willing to pay the sign and bonuses who's's willing to trade, who's going to make the right moves. And so a lot of that was you talking with the owner, talking with the GM and all these places about how do you see it?

How do they see it? And so it's a little bit different. It's still your core philosophy maybe, but a little bit different in terms of the actual do's and don'ts. You said something in your answer about the interview process and drinking and somebody calling you out. You said, cause your contract one year you had to, or something like you had to coach, you had to attempt to coach. Is that what, is that what, what? Yeah, I think, you know, I think in all, you know, in, in all contracts,

you know, if they're paying you multiple years and you know, if there's, you have, you usually have a duty to try to mitigate and go find another job. So good business. Good business. Yeah. So to me, it was really important to me that, hey, I wanted to coach. The year before, I had some opportunities to go back to college with some really lucrative jobs. And just in our discussions, my family and I, while it wasn't going great in Carolina, I never wanted to quit. I didn't want to be one of those coaches that just quit and ran.

I didn't want to show my kids that. My whole goal in Carolina. Besides, you know, I wanted to win, obviously, and, you know, win a championship. I wanted my son to finish high school and we weren't able to, you know, he's actually living there. He doesn't live with us anymore. He's finishing high school, his senior year there right now. But, you know, so I wasn't going to quit. But there were some different things that happened. So when I got this job, I was like, you know what, I'm going to – when I got fired, I was obviously going to look for a job and it just had to be a good one, and this was a great one.

Yeah, it seems like you're building up a beautiful thing. Could you imagine he does a Temple, Baylor, and then also Nebraska? So he walks past five national championships over there. Sweet. Hey, those trophies got to look good, huh? Yeah, that's got to look sweet. They look good, bro. Yeah, I could imagine.

I could imagine. That's good motivation. Also, whenever the guys get in there, you said you didn't know much about Nebraska. I like to think of the thought of you and your wife, by the way, at a Nebraska game with a hat on, just being in the student section, in the tailgate or something, being like, boy, it's pretty sweet. Pretty sweet.

Got good energy here. The whole thought of you building another school back up to a place is like you'll go down as one of the greatest coaches of all time but like that is that's a big deal right i mean i don't know your age i don't know your age how old are you 48 yeah 48 oh yeah you got what like another 30 years at least of coach for a long time i'll i'll um like if i if i wouldn't have gotten a job i would have coached like i would've been a high school tight ends coach in Charlotte. So I'll always coach. I, I love kids. I love, I love young people. So I'll always coach. But I, you know, I think the big thing for me was it's not just winning. It's, it's the way that we do it. And that's why Nebraska

was important to me because Nebraska believes in player development. They believe, you know, they were when, when coach Osborne and coach Devaney had this place rolling and then coach Solich, it was, you know, they were the leaders in the weight room. They were the leaders in really sports science. They were the first ones to have a study hall, a training table like they were the Georgias and Alabamas of that day. And so we came back and I'll be honest, I was very blessed to be around Christian McCaffrey because my time with Christian, I learned more about sports science more about recovery than I ever could have and we came here and we took out a bunch of recruiting stuff and we put in I mean our our building here is state-of-the-art and it's state-of-the-art for development and so to me it's about it's about I want us to win but I want us to win in a way that

honors the state of Nebraska and honors college football where it's not a quick fix where we're where we're recruiting high school kids and developing them and growing them. And if we can do that, then it's three places that we went to. And it's not me. It's all the whole staff. It's with me. You know, I got 13 former players working for me in different areas, you know, from Carolina to Temple to Baylor. So to me, it's about like, Hey, we went to three places and we left them better than we found them and we built them from the ground up. And so I'm proud of Temple. I'm proud of Baylor. And I love what we're doing here so far.

We just got to get over the hump and get to where we're winning championships. 13 X players tells me the players love playing for you. I want you to find your people. You got the people that want to stay in there. And if they can make a living off of continuing to do it, you're a good man for that entire thing. AQ has a question for you, Coach. Coach Roll, what's up?

Got a big question. I was a little offended that you didn't mention offensive line. You mentioned Scott Frost or Eric Crouch and Tommy Frazier, all these former guys, skill guys coming out to watch practice. You have offensive and defensive linemen scattered all over the NFL from everywhere you've coached in college. You just re-signed Rayola to an extension coach. Who's that?

What's his name? Rayola. What's that, Coach Rayola? Coach Rayola, yeah. He has a pretty good lineage of quarterback in his family. Yeah, really. Anyways, he's the offensive line coach. Anyways, he's the offensive line coach.

Got it. How important is that for you to build up Nebraska among the offensive and defensive lines? Yeah, it's the heartbeat of this place, and it's the heartbeat of how you have to play here. I would say, AQ, there's two quarters a game in most games where the wind is 25 miles an hour in your face. No.

15, 25 miles an hour in your face. And so we're not – know i watch you know your portal you're watching kids in texas watching kids in florida like it's 26 degrees and the wind's blowing right at you so you better be able to line up and stop the run and you better be able to line up and run the football and in the heyday of nebraska obviously defense the black shirts and obviously the offensive line the pipeline and those guys you know those guys obviously come around brendan stye so many of them you know, those guys obviously come around Brendan Stye. So many of them, you know, he works here. They, they, they, they, they, they care about the program,

but we have to be able to run the football in our, in our first year. You know, we were, I think we were first or second in the league, in the league and rushing. We, we, we fixed our run defense. We were one of the top two or three run defenses, whereas the year before had been the last. So there are such big people out here in the Midwest. You know, to me, it's about getting them here, getting them in a strength strength program and we want to walk out on the field and you to know that that's nebraska like you like oh they're all six foot six 315 pounds they got

abs they that like that's what nebraska football is and so we're gonna be talking about abs but that's when the basketball is so you know we want to be that you know your temple team remember oh yeah i mean your baylor team too but that temple team i got to see a couple of the of them um they were all six three four four absolutely strapped just like won the game before the game even like look on the field it's like oh that team what are the what is that that team is huge you that is a goal for you that is something that you actually like hey we need studs here we need to make them though in the weight room and everything like that because 18 to 22 is quite a development stage for the human body so that is a focus of yours okay that makes sense now thinking back to the teams that you've had yeah so much of

recruiting is like who matured early but you know you know, you look at those teams you said at Temple, like, you know, Hassan Reddick walked on. And Hassan did it all himself. I don't take credit for Hassan Reddick. But Hassan went from a walk-on to a first-round draft pick in the weight room and the way that we practiced. Deion Dawkins, you know, Deion, you know, starting left tackle with a Buffalo Bill, someone I'm really proud of.

Like, he had just gotten dropped by Cincinnati, had nowhere to go, and we stopped at his house. And we were like, you know what? It was like a romantic comedy. I walked out of the house, and I stopped. And I walked back in. I said, you have a scholarship. Be there Sunday.

It was Friday. I said, be there Sunday. And he showed up, and now he's making millions of dollars in Buffalo and impacting the community. So that was that type of place, man, where you had to build your team in the weight room. You had to build your team on the practice field. to build your team in the weight room. You had to build your team on the practice field. And again, that team, after we won 10 games in 2015,

would have been hard to keep together in 2016. You know, they would have had, guys would have had offers from all over the country nowadays. They come play for us now in 2023. But I was proud of those guys. And so when I came here, we said Nebraska will want the type of team that we had at Temple. Defense, run the ball, play great special teams, and that's what we're going to try to do.

Yeah, you talked about 26-mile-an-hour win. Ain't no punter or kicker signing up. Going to have to get a real mentally tough guy. Going to have to get a real – hey, I'm pulling for you. You'll find him. You'll find him. Connor has a question for you, Coach, about making people run through a damn wall.

Yeah, Coach, one of my favorite parts of this college football season was waiting for that Sunday or Monday release video of you getting the boys ready to play. I think you're like McGuire in the 90s just hitting bombs every week for your team. Without the steroids. Who knows? We don't know. He might be squatting 800

pounds, but how do you plan those? Or is that something that you go into the week like, hey, I gotta start thinking of things i'm gonna say to the boys to get them all revved up because i think it was a three and a half minute speech you gave once where it was about you know mothers and people who have helped your team kind of get to where they are and i don't know if it was like a team mom at the end but it was someone who clearly didn't swear very often and she might have said a swear and you guys

muted it and the team went ballistic but what goes into those and did you ever try to do one of those at carolina and they just didn't really hit because it was the nfl yeah you know i certainly don't do that every week i i don't plan it i kind of go with what hits me i kind of go with you know how i feel and you know the obviously the nfl is a little different because the season's longer but you know even you you watch hard, you hear people talking with passion sometimes and energy sometimes. And, you know, we were at a point this year, like that, that game was really special to me. You know, my mom's a breast cancer survivor and my wife, Julie lost her mom to breast cancer. So, you know, Julie invited all the moms, grandmoms, ancestors to line the tunnel

on the way out to the field. And, you know, we're a young team. We're trying to figure out how to win. You know, nowadays everything gets evaluated. Guys are nervous about making a mistake. And I just wanted them to, like, I wanted them to recognize, because you sit guys in a room and then we all look at each other like, well, you know, I'm white, he's African-American, I'm old, he's young, I'm from the East Coast, you're from the, we find all this stuff that divides us.

You start saying like, hey, whose mom had cancer? Whose dad had cancer? Whose grandmother? And guys start raising their hands. And what we find out is that your worst day was also my worst day. And it's not about from that point on what divides us. It's about what unites us. And so for me, that was a way to honor all those moms.

It was a way for me to honor my mom and for me to honor Julie and her mom. And what was great about Mrs. Piper was her son, Ethan, tore his knee up, every ligament in his knee the week before and couldn't be at the game. And as we were marching into the stadium, we saw her. I said, hey, would you please come down with us? And she came down and she got the boys ready to go. And we went out and we won that game, man. But, yeah, I don't ever plan it. At the end of the day day like sometimes they might fall a

little bit flat sometimes maybe they hit with the guys but i want it to always be authentic and i want to always be real because players know if you're fake and they know if it's real and that that that game meant a lot to me and i will say this i've had more people reach out to me uh who've had loved ones uh harmed by cancer who have someone in the throes of it. And for them to think about like, Hey, you know what? Like it's not, it's, it's me every day of my life honoring the ones that I love were battling cancer by the way that I do things for me to be a weapon and not just, I think that if we did anything good this year, that was kind of a cool moment. And I, you know, it wasn't about me.

It was about our team. It was about the moms. Mega viral, great message. that's a good thing i appreciate you letting whoever let that out out you know because that's a decision that has to be made as well especially in the modern era what you know what doesn't deserve to get out what should get out what helps the team what helps the world though and you let us in on a little bit of that we appreciate that coach genuinely thank you coach what's it like going into someone's house say with their 16 17 years old you're recruiting them and then bringing them into your program and watch them develop and become a starter say make plays go to the nfl and kind of develop as a man i would imagine as a coach that's what you're you

definitely missed that in the nfl game but in college kind of mold these guys and help them in this pivotal part of their life like what is that like for you as a coach? Yeah, I think it's vital. You said something there that was really important to me too is go into their homes. You know, like I go into every – you know, when you start recruiting, I try to go into every person's home if I can because, you know, I want to see their home and I want to see what's important to them. And, you know, we recruit people all over the country.

One thing you learn is there's great people everywhere. And you know, my wife and you know, she did this in the NFL every Thursday night. It was Friday night in the NFL. She has a different position group over to our house. And at the end of the day, like the players love nothing more than Aaron, Julie, you know, I'm the head coach here. And Julie yelled at me and call me Matthew and they all think it's nuts. And I mean, even the NFL, man, I had, I mean, I had,

I had Stefan Gilmore sitting on my couch, playing with my dogs, hanging out with my kids. I mean, like life's about people. And so I like that part of it and seeing where guys are from. And the thing that's cool about college, AJ, is not everything goes like this. Not everything's like a linear equation, right? Like you go through ups and downs, highs and lows and guys, you know, they hit a pitfall, they hit a distraction, something's going on at home. And we've always wanted to be the staff that helps them through that. And, you know, I tell them right now, like, hey, guys, don't worry about what you're doing as a freshman. Let's worry about as a senior, if you have a degree, if you won a championship, if you're going off to the NFL, if you're going to be a doctor,

like, let's worry about that. And that's what I struggled with in the NFL was you build this great relationship with somebody. And then the GM walks in the end's like hey we need to let them go and all said boom it's transaction they're gone and maybe they're back on Tuesday and that's just not me I mean that's just that's just not who I am I like having those connections with guys and so I obviously did it and I didn't always do it right because it was so hard for me and so I like this I like watching those guys grow and develop I I like, you know, I'm starting to get to the age now where I'm starting to offer guys that I coach as a young assistant, I'm offering their kids now. And so, oh yeah, 48, you know, they had a kid at 21, 22,

and here we go now. So trust me to coach them because I coached them. To me, that's pretty cool if we can do it right. We don't always do it right, but we do the best we can. A lot of trust there from the players to you whenever they're freshmen. You say, let's worry about what happens senior year because, you know, it seems like in 2023 it's vastly different. You know, it feels like this year from what we've heard and what the national narrative is about college football right now, it's not about, hey, two, three years from now.

It's about right, right. Hey, right now, which leads to this from tone, which is a wild thing. Yeah. Coach, I don't know if you've had to deal with it yet, or if you've planned on how you would deal with it. Like, have you had any players like 19, 20 year olds who come into your office and say, Hey, I want X amount of dollars or I'm going to hit the portal and I'm going to go

try to find more money at a different place. Like have you had to deal with that? How do you deal with that? Like if you let them go out and bring them back, if they don't find it, like what's the process there? Yeah, man, so I've definitely dealt with it. I've had guys come in and I've really had guys say to me like, hey, coach, so-and-so from such-and-such schools reached out, you know,

they've got this amount of money or the quarterback from this school because a lot of it's going through like the quarterbacks are doing hey this quarterback from this school has offered me this amount and sometimes when the amounts are like it's eight hundred thousand dollars i'm like bro you should take that money like you know i mean you know i mean you know that's that's fantastic um i just try to make sure that they understand like hey guys listen like going back to what we talked about words are words you know once you transfer you're locked in there you know and i'm really proud of the fact you know we went five and seven it's year one you know we had one guy going to portal the first day you know wanted to go down and play fcs football we had another guy two other older guys

went on the portal and um because they want to be starters i mean we haven't lost anybody and i think it's because i hope it's because the things we've talked about, you know, hey, being the team that's trying to develop guys, trying to help us. I hope that they feel that way. And so, as I said, we have a great collective. We have a great NIL set up. Guys want to be here. They like being in Nebraska. But yeah, that's definitely the real world now. That's definitely the real world now. And, you know, it's like it's like, yeah, you can time it any time you want, you can hit free agency and you can go out and test the market. I don't mind if a player says, coach, I'm a backup for you. Can I go in the portal and see if there's a place I can start? I've let guys, if guys are going to go out and see, you know, hey, coach, see if I get more money. I think they probably, they probably don't need to be here. But if,

if it's, if it's because they want to play, I mean, I was a backup. I was a walk on at Penn State. I understand that. I'm always going to help guys if they want to play somewhere um but we try to manage it just honestly and straightforward and uh thankfully we haven't lost anyone we are penn state can't do that anymore no i saw me almost yeah he's close i'm scott rance i'm scott rance no i love penn state i love penn state i love james frank on the ad at penn state pat craft hired me at temple i love penn state but go big I love Penn State. I love Penn State. I love James Franco. The AD at Penn State. Pat Kraft hired me at Temple. I love Penn State, but go Big Red. That'll be a big one for you.

That'll be emotional in there. Hey, future of the Big Ten is changing, right? Yeah, it's great. Do we like this? We like this. There's no more divisions, right? We're kind of, what do you think? Yes.

I would love to see a day where it's like four teams in the Big Ten all play a playoff to determine the league champ. And I think if the SEC did something similar. I just think college football should get very – I think college football, A, I think we should have the same rules as the NFL. We should have a two-minute warning. Like, how are we playing college football and pro football and we have different hashes?

It makes no sense to me. Down by contact, too. I don't understand why we – Down by contact, too. Down by contact. Down by contact is a tough thing to watch. Change it. Two feet. Yeah. I don't understand, like, no technology.

Like, you know, we go to a high school game, they have huddle on the sidelines. They got iPads. You know, we're holding up signs and boards. We don't have – and I think they're working on all this stuff. But college football, to me, could be really healthy if we got the same rules as the NFL, we implemented technology, and I think um if as they go to the bigger playoff i think it's going to be hopefully really good for football like i'm i'm up the other night till like one o'clock in the morning watching albany play whoever in the fcs playoff you know

what i mean i'm watching firman the other night i love college football so yeah exactly what a great i mean what great games and so i i I think the Big Ten will probably have this league. We'll probably have four teams in there every year. You know, that's South Dakota State's world down there. They've won 27 straight games, South Dakota State Jackrabbits. I gave the other team that credit. That's not a bad day. I messed up bad there.

Hey, Pat, in my negotiations here, I was like, hey, listen, Trev, I know you handle it, but can we keep the word Dakota out of our scheduling? I don't need to play. South Dakota, South Dakota State, those guys are tough, great coaches. I respect the heck out of them. Yeah, we don't need to be in those early weeks scheduling

any potential, whoa, what was that? What are we doing? And also flying out there to the entire place, which is one of the weapons of Nebraska, getting there. But once you get there, you're going to fall in love with it. We appreciate you, man. Thank you for spending time with us. This was a great conversation.

I assume you had numerous things you had to do, and we just blew right the fuck through it. So that's on me. But thank you for joining us. Man, I love this. Thank you very much. I got a lot of family and friends that were like, when are you going to get on the show?

When are you going to get on the show? This was, now my kids are going to think I'm cool today, so thank you. Me and AJ called, what was that, AJ? That was the first time me and AJ were ever, I think. They were Texas Tech, I believe we worked the game. Yeah, Baylor Tech. With Cliff. Yeah, we actually talked to you.

We interviewed you. Charlie Brewer. Charlie Brewer. Man, what a football player. He had a jug of water with him. Like a full thing. It was the whole team was doing. We got a chance to really, yeah, dude, you were very kind to us. You got a huge win. Beat Cliff.

That got us to Bulldogs one year too. That was a huge day. Yeah, Charlie Brewer, man. What a football player. He's still playing in college? Yeah, he was playing like six years. He's done. No, he's done. He's done. I think he's probably hopefully trying to play in the Xfl or usfl or kind of cool they have those leagues now so guys have a chance to put some tape out there but charlie man he could play football certainly

good just like a lot of the guys that you've recruited and brought into your programs good luck out there in nebraska until the next time brother ladies and gentlemen head coach of the nebraska corn hush football team Coach! That was a long time. Long time. That was a good conversation. Yeah, good conversation. I did not expect that. I thought it was going to be a 10-minute conversation about that fucking press conference.

Yep. And look what we did. Yeah. That was a nice little surprise. Journalism. That is journalism. How about that? I feel like we just learned a lot about that guy.

Since the first day we talked to him down there at the Baylor-Texas Tech thing, I've been a big fan all the way since. Remember, he said something to us. We were meeting with him the day before the game, and he said, like, he said, I'm, like, the least fun coach out there. We were all talking about, like, music and different things, but he even said, like, he was basically saying he didn't have – I think he may have changed, but he didn't have music and warm-ups back then.

But then he said, like, he said it in a way of, like, yeah, but my guys get it and they have a lot of fun still. I i don't know he basically just loves ball like he uh it's just ball that's it that's why him going to the carolina panthers it was like an interesting little will it work will it not work because the development of it all is really the big part that he seemed to showcase today obviously the college coach thing is hilarious though he's He's like, I got all these ideas for NFL coaches, but because I'm a college coach. He's on a Zoom call saying, all right, this is what I'm thinking. And guys are just like, okay, bub.

Ever going to work, college guys. That works against Connor Campbell playing. Okay, linebacker. I don't know if that one's going to work for us, but this is the men's league. And you're on a Zoom, too? Yeah, exactly. So he can't even, like, there's even, like, an arm. But, come on. Listen, this is the mensley you're on a zoom too yeah yeah exactly so you can't even like

brutal there's even like an art like but come on listen this is what i'm trying to do not even a chance of that all right i gotta unmute all right yeah hold on i does anybody else before i and then somebody else starts talking yeah this is dumb he's like boy god uh fuck brandon staley same way right yeah didn't that end up how he started over there? Oh, yeah. During COVID. The hard knocks. I would like to see how many coaches that started during COVID make it.

Man, that's a tough task. Tough task right there. You're trying to implement your culture without even being able to be around anybody. That had to be a pretty. Was MCDC the year after? Yeah, it was the year after. Yeah. Yeah.

Remember how things would get changed too? Like day to day they'd be like, oh, everyone got sent home. Meetings are strictly virtual today. That would happen all the time as well to where yeah, how do you coach? Especially being a new guy. That would have been very difficult. Very difficult to bring your culture in there. You would have had, that would have been. It's like legitimately

impossible it feels like. Yeah. In your meetings, remember they're having meetings in parking lots where they would have a Madonna speaker, a microphone on their faces, and then your offensive line is potentially 70 yards away in the back of the room where speakers are sending the speech to. It's like, are those motherfuckers paying attention back here? Ah, that's going to be tough. That's going to be...

Now, obviously, the offensive line, I'll pay attention. Always in there. But you're like 30 yards away from the coach. That would be a tough way to build anything. Now he's back at college. He loves the Braves. Yeah, he loves it. He loves the Braves. Did you hear that? That's what I heard out of that whole thing. Yes, absolutely.

Loves everything about it. It seems like he enjoys the recruiting part of it, too. I understand they talk about how tough recruiting is, but all the college coaches seem to kind of thrive on that. They compete with other coaches to try to get people. I think it's probably fun for them. All right, let's take a break. On the other side, we've got a lot to talk about Titans and Dolphins.

We've got the road to the AFC number one seed and the road to the NFC number one seed graphics that everybody would like to see. The whole thought of... Music's off. Music's back. There it is. The whole thought of a schedule being easy, though,

I think is kind of bullshit. Because we see last night happen. No, yeah. Eight underdogs won this weekend. Yeah, massive. It's a lot. It's a ton. So the schedule, whenever you look ahead, you're like, win, should win, should win.

It's like, who the fuck knows? We don't know. Nobody. Might lose five players in the first three minutes. Tommy Cutlets and Will Levens. That's what last night does. Yeah. That's what last night does.

Any given Sunday. All right. We'll look at the road. Or Monday. Or Thursday. Saturday. Or Friday. Saturday this weekend. So pumped. Super wild card weekend. Yeah. or Monday or Thursday. Saturday. Hey, Saturday this weekend.

So pumped. Super wild card weekend. Yeah. Triple header. Yeah. We're going to be at the second one. Mm-hmm. Good luck to your Pittsburgh Steelers.

Gardner Minshew off a loss. You ever seen those stats? Undefeated. I assume they're terrible. Don't look them up if you haven't seen them. I thought he was like 0-14 or something like that. Yeah, you should go look them up if you haven't seen them. I thought he was like 0-14 or something like that. Yeah, you should go look them up again then. I think this is the year that the Colts beat the Steelers for the first time since 08, I believe.

All right, I just heard Gronk and Julian Edelman talking about it, and now we have Steelers people talking about it. We're a good team. That's why everybody's talking about it all the time. That's right. I was not part of a lot of Colts wins, though, against the New England Patriots up there. To Gronk's and Julian Edelman's point.

No, you're not. Nobody was. Yeah, to be fair. Everyone hates us. I was on the wrong side of both. In fourth and two, I was on the Patriots. That was Melvin Bullitt, big-time pick. And came to the Colts.

To fight Kate. Yeah. I just watched Gronk and Julian Edelman say that players were complaining about the ball. I don't think any player. Especially after the game. We certainly understood. That was

a lot of other people doing a lot of talking. And you've talked about it too. Every time it got brought up I think a lot of the players were like, can we fucking stop? Stop saying 38-10. Can we stop talking about it, too. Every time it got brought up, I think a lot of the players were like, can we fucking stop? Stop saying 38-10. Can we stop talking about this? All right. It was a bad game.

Yeah, it was a blowout. It was up there. Competitive first half. Was it? What? Really? It was. We had a three and a half.

We had a muff punt early. Yeah. Kind of changed it. When was the Rebus pick six? That was early, wasn't it? I don't know. Like 17-10't it? I don't know. Like 17-10 or something? I don't remember anything about that game except for Danny Amendola

was fair catching everything. And any time the Patriots start doing that, that means the game's over. Just get the ball back. Don't need to return anything. Helped my stats. Yeah. That was a hell of a conference championship game, though. You guys hung that banner. It is still up.

Still up. That needs to not happen. What does it say exactly? 2014 AFC finalists, motherfuckers. Got him. AFC finalists. 2012. It was 14. 12, we lost to Baltimore

Yeah First round And then they went on To win the Super Bowl So we basically Won the fucking Super Bowl Yeah Yeah

B.A. was sick that game Sick that morning Woke up Yeah Bruce Arians in a hospital Yeah Yeah 2016 Ravens almost got it done

So close A.Q. You on that team though? Oh You got it down in Tampa, though. Bingo. Yeah. My rookie year, we beat the Patriots on that Melvin Bullitt play. Yes, you did. That was cool.

Then you went on to lose to Drew Brees and the Saints. And then also, I'd play my role on a team as non-important as everybody else against the Patriots a lot. Yeah. You know? Too often, so much. Yeah, I don't know what, you know, how Matt Rule just said, let's not be scheduling any of the Dakotas.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Somehow the NFL for, I don't know, like two decades straight, they're like, you know what? Patriots, Colts, let's make sure this happens. No matter what. Had to have one-on-one. Yeah, the one-shot kick that got.

Yeah, overruled. Yeah, screwed. Yeah, Patriots. That's Belichick, baby. Yeah, overruled. Yeah, screwed. Yeah, Patriots. That's Belichick, baby. That was in Indianapolis. They said it was our ball. And then all of a sudden, it's not our ball anymore. It's like, what the fuck are we doing?

How's that even? Well, it's an on-side kick. Once you say, yeah, that's the person, that's the ball. And then, no. Interesting. That's not how it works. In our house. Yeah.

In the lot house. In the fucking lot house, Lucas Oil State. Before people knew that you guys were pumping in noise. There's no noise coming in the Loud House. No, that was the RCA. That was the RCA. It's organic. I've never seen.

The Loud House, you guys think they're pumping in sound? Is that what you think? Well. Have you ever been to another venue? They make noise. There's noise. It's a little baby sledgehammer thing before pregame that you guys had. It's not a baby sledgehammer.

Did you see Vinatieri? I mean, it's a miniature sledgehammer. Vinatieri would make a full length sledgehammer look like a miniature one. That guy's absolutely jacked. He was swinging. So were you. That sledgehammer. Thank you.

You were swinging too. Yeah, from what we've heard. And you have a swing, actually. But the... Is that soaking thing real? That thing from Zach Wilson? Is that a real quote? What do you mean?

You know, we do know that Zach Wilson's a good boy. He's a sweet boy. There's no way. He's got a good personality. We've learned... He does. Zach Wilson has a good personality. He does.

Yeah, I'm guessing this is Fugaze. But pretty funny. It's a damn shame. Because from my conversation with Zach as a journalist, he's a good boy with good personality. He is a good boy. He's a handsome boy. Handsome boy.

He's a handsome boy. Kind of a big boy too. Much bigger because his baby-ass face makes you think, oh, he must just be a little thing. That sweet boy is pretty big. He's a big boy. The journalist that I was with asked about the Coastal Carolina. Do you remember that?

Oh, yeah. The pick, and then he got double teamed on national TV during a potential Zach Wilson is the best player on earth. Chose to go there to play. Yeah, that wasn't scheduled. Like, yeah, let's go play Coastal Carolina. Zach, well, let's keep the teams on TV. Chose to go there to play. Yeah, it wasn't scheduled. Like, yeah, let's go play Coastal Carolina.

Zach, well, let's keep the teams on TV. Coastal Carolina having a year. BYU, hey, let's go. Let's do it. And then, oh, yeah, you threw a pick. Good news. That means one thing. We can fucking kill you.

And they did. Oh, yeah. They did. We asked about it. Mm-hmm. And he was nice. He was. Well, he's a sweet boy.

You see, you know, it's just football sometimes. Mm-hmm. Man, that was a cool comment, sweet boy. He was. Well, he's a sweet boy. You see, you know, it's just football sometimes. Man, that was a cool comment, sweet boy. Sweet boy. Thank you, sweet boy. Did he do that right after he said that? Did he do that little bow up a little bit? I don't know if he did or if that was just my interpretation of looking at him and saying he's fucking much bigger than I thought he was.

He might have been that. Big boy. Big strapping dude. Big, sweet, burly boy. Oh, bad news! Oh, no. On a day we learned that Justin Herbert's out for the rest of the year. Oh, no.

Come on. And we learned Malik Cunningham has gone from the Patriots to the Ravens. Yes. Seems like a perfect fit, Malik. Yep. He's probably going to do really well there. Two Louisville quarterbacks. Yeah. No crush. a perfect fit, by the way. He's probably going to do really well there. Two Louisville quarterbacks. A sweet boy.

What? Who was at the same gathering as Goodboy. Zach Wilson. Mason Crosby has been cut from the Los Angeles Freeway. Bring him home. Whoa. What? Bring him home. Whoa. What? Bring him home.

What about Anders? Or no? No, they were thinking about activating him allegedly, and they stuck with Haversick Lucas, and then he goes three for three, including a game tired of sending to overtime as the clock is basically expiring in the fourth with that weather and conditions.

He had, like, his best day. Good for him responding. Yeah, huge. Good for him responding. That's huge. Good for him responding. That's not easy, you know, especially when a legend shows up like that. But I think what Mason proved was that his leg still got it. Oh, yeah. You know, I think that was proved in this entire thing.

Him just being a free agent now with a playoff run about to take place. And if you're a team, you know, that maybe has a couple question marks at the kicking position where it's like, are we going to allow this to be a reason why we don't? And if you can say, yeah, and just move along, okay. But if you say, no, we're not going to allow it. It's like signing Mason Crosby, not only PR-wise, it's like you tried. Yeah, you signed him.

One of the greatest of all time. But also probably going to deliver. You think back at his time in Green Bay, he had like four bad games, five bad games. They were bad. A lot of games. They were bad. But he was there for a thousand years.

Always bounced back, too. Yeah. Always answers. Athlete. Huge leg. Makes kicks. Kicked in Green Bay. That's the entire time.

So, like, him at SoFi, it would have been like a dream for him. So, I'm excited that Mason C, it would have been, like, a dream for him. So I'm excited that Mason Crosby is potentially going to find another home, is what I'm thinking is going to take place. But also I'm excited that that Lucas Haverson kid answered. Good for him. Congrats to him. Mason Crosby on the streets again, though, AJ. I did not expect this, pal.

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see as the playoffs go. How is he still available? I don't know. You want him at Green Bay, you said? Yeah. Paulson's a good boy. He is a good boy. He's a sweet boy.

He's a young boy. But just in terms of consistency, because four weeks ago, it was like, hey, the Packers aren't going to make the playoffs, so who gives a shit? Let this guy kick. But missing one last night, I don't think Crosby misses that one. Him having played in Green Bay that long, the way their offense is, they can't afford to be missing kicks.

I know it's tough because I don't think Mason's probably kicking off anymore, and I'm pretty sure Ders is the kickoff guy, but bring Mason home. Ders? Yeah, Anders Carlson, Ders. Okay, you call him Ders. D.C. The Carlson kicking family, obviously Okay, you call him Ders. DC. The Carlson kicking family.

Obviously one that is very noted and successful. I couldn't believe that Mason Crosby openly wants Gig. Can't get one right now. That's wild. Yeah, I mean, kickers are weird like that sometimes. All of a sudden he's not in. Then say someone signs him, he does well. He could kick for another two or three years.

That's what's weird. Ten. I mean, who knows how long Mason's going to last. But yeah, that's not in. Then say someone signs him, he does well. He could kick for another two or three years. That's what's weird. Ten, if you really – I mean, who knows how long Mason's going to last. But, yeah, that's – like Graham Gannot. Graham Gannot was on like four or five – four teams, I think, maybe five teams before he gets to the Giants. And then it's like, all right, pro bowler, here's the spot. Guys, they get into this like kicking carousel where you go, where you'll make a couple kicks so you're on a team,

and then you'll miss a couple kicks, and then the main guy gets back healthy, or maybe they release you and sign somebody else. Then you go work out for another team. Then you're up for a few weeks. Do you make? Do you miss? And then if you get hot, it's like, all right, now you've got a job for the rest of your life. You have a job for as long as you're hot. Go ahead and do it. Congratulations.

It's a really cool thing, but it can also be incredibly stressful, but it happens on a very regular basis. So the fact that Mason is in this kicking carousel and not getting picked up is alarming. It's wild to me. I'm like, yo, what's up?

You know, we got Mac at the highest paid kicker in the NFL. And there's been a lot of games this year, not this past one, but he just had a baby. So, you know, there's probably a lot going on.

He's tired. He's tired. Probably. And Cincinnati, not easy to kick at, but like that motherfucker did not miss. And it was fun. He's tired. He's tired probably. And Cincinnati not easy to kick at. But, like, that motherfucker did not miss. And it was fun. That's a really fun thing whenever the kicker goes out there.

Like, right now for the Browns, Dustin Hopkins, he's been on a bunch of teams. And now he's potentially found, like, maybe this is his home, like Washington was for a bit before he went to the Chargers. Now he's there. You think about Joey Sly. Joey Sly's been on, like, four or five different teams. It's like you just try to get an opportunity, and then when you get there, you just got to get hot. Mason Cly's been on like four or five different teams. It's like, you just try to get an opportunity, and then when you get there, you just gotta get hot.

Mason Crosby, who had the Green Bay, was hot forever. And then now he's like, I would like to go and they're like, can't find a gig. That's wild. Like, Houston. That's what I was gonna say. No offense. Amendola, who is a same as Bounce Around, it's like, you have a potential playoff team here.

And you got a guy, and in Houston, it's a dome you have a potential playoff team here, and you've got a guy in Houston. It's a dome. Is it the veteran men, maybe? Is that what it is, potentially, for Mason? Maybe, I guess, but if you need a kicker, you do not mind paying veteran men. Yeah, it's four weeks left in the season. Especially those bubble teams.

How old is he? 38, probably. Maybe 39. He said he's still hitting well, though. So that's all that matters. And he was pretty strapped. Properly jocked. He was a jocked boy. In his head, the way his fade was. Big neck, big head.

He was having a good time too. He was good to see. He said he's still in his full work. Still kicking the whole thing. Alright, I hope he gets an opportunity. But congrats to Lucas, you know, because Mason Crosby showed up, and he had his best game. Yeah. That's a dog.

That is a dog. All right, we got everything. No, I'm sorry. We got in the trenches. Yep. Coming up on the other side. And we haven't talked about the Herbert news yet or the Malik Cunningham news, really.

I'm excited to hear your take on Malik leaving town. And also, there's been some posts from some Patriots players, I believe, wishing him luck on the way. And then Herbert out. Oh. Oh, no. And Dolphin Center tore his ACL. Oh, that's a huge loss.

Connor Williams. That's a huge loss. Huge. Huge loss. Oh, my God. And they already have, right, some injuries? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a big loss.

That's not good. I mean, he was playing very well, too Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a big loss. That's not good. I mean, he was playing very well, too. Absolutely massive. Yeah, that's it. That's all she wrote. Come agree with me, too. That's it. No, he is home.

Oh, no. Oh, no. I am bummed out, folks. Bummed out. He is bummed out. He's bummed over. This is what happens. I finally started believing in this team.

This is what happened. I started watching the Hard Knocks, started saying we're going to the Super Bowl, and now here we are. The Hard Knocks, I forgot. Hard Knocks, curse. They don't get them all. Tonight, Hard Knocks is on. Yeah.

Levis is going to be watching. Yeah, it should be a great episode. Hope you like it, America. You shouldn't watch this one, though. Can't wait to watch Hard Knocks, bitch. That's tough. Sorry, Gump. Hey, Cush, before you sit down over there, what are we doing today?

What are you doing? Putting. It's a putz. No. You've become, you know, this has become a thing now with you doing this thing. The football? Just everything. There you go.

Are you going to make it or are you not? Like, there's real, there's been a little bit of a buzz in the air, you know, whenever you step up to the plate here. All right, let's go. Let's throw a football, man. Don't hurt your arm for tomorrow. You're going to need a throwing arm for tomorrow. True. And you should get good vibes going into war games. You know what I mean? He's got to be nervous.

He's got to be nervous. He doesn't know what he's getting into. I don't know. I don't know if this guy has the ability to be nervous. I like what you're doing. For something like this. Honestly. Look, he thinks he's good. What if he's got to run hard? What if he's running 10 miles through the mud?

Hey, AJ, then guess what? You run 10 miles through the mud. That's what you do. Good answer. Of course, you're an adult with three kids. Yeah, we're doing this. Are you going to join? No. I'm not tough enough for that.

What if this is like play butts? You know what I mean? Well, then we're going to find out what I'm made of. Yes, we are. Real quick. At this age, too? Yeah. I'm in better shape now than I ever was as a player.

Yeah, but mentally, you've got a pretty good house life. Yeah, true. The whole thing. It's like the Conor McGregor thing. Now I'm feeling good about life. He's training at resorts. If he wins, that's one of the most mentally tough things of all time. They're showing him run sprints and circles at resorts.

Yes. I mean, he trains on his yacht. Outside of his yacht. Yeah. Outside of his yacht, he's working out shadow boxing on the dock. Yeah, he's working out, trying to get an actual workout in. People are like, Conor McGregor's, oh, yeah, Conor McGregor. They're standing two feet from him.

He's trying to get a real workout. Sorry. He's like, I'm training for an actual fight. If he wins doing that, he should be as loud as he possibly is. Is it a definite? Is he fighting Chandler? Like, has that ever been announced? It's definite?

He's back in the testing pool. I have no idea. I have no idea. Big one this weekend. There's no way he wins. Who's that? Covington, Edwards. Oh, that is a big one.

Tony Ferguson. Patty Pimblitt. Oh, Patty Pimblitt's fighting this weekend? Oh, shit. Oh, that is a big one. Tony Ferguson. Patty Pimblitt. Oh, Patty Pimblitt's fighting this weekend? Oh, shit. Oh, yeah. I watched that. Kobe hasn't fought forever. Kobe's been a couple years.

Tony Ferguson's been training with David Goggins. Oh, shit. Holy shit. Is he going to be at your war games? No, I think he's out this week. Oh, right. Okay, all right. Unfortunately, there is, you know, Vikings Lions is at 815 this weekend.

Oh, speaking of Vikings, brand new quarterback this weekend, Mullins in for the Pasternaut. Announcement made by Tom Pellicero, Minnesota native. So Nick Mullins is now the starter for the Minnesota Vikings. The Pasternaut story was a good one. It was a good one. It was fun. It was fun.

Yeah, it was. We had fun. Hell yeah. It was a good one. And was a good one. It was fun. It was fun. Yeah, it was. We had fun. Hell yeah. It was a good one. And NASA was involved. Yep. You know, so like we even got others

members of society in the NFL. Everybody enjoyed it. That was a fun story. It was. Kevin O'Connell showcased his coach AJ. That was fun when it happened.

You know, it's over. A lot of fun. What, you think it's over? You don't think he's going to get another shot somewhere? Yeah, it's over. Oh, maybe. He'll get another shot. I hope he does get another shot. I think we're finding out why think he's going to get another shot somewhere? Yeah, it's over. Oh, maybe. He'll get another shot.

I hope he does get another shot. I think we're finding out why. He's going to be in the league. Whoever's in front of him is going to get hurt. I think he's going to get another shot. Hey, Josh, let's go, bub. He just got all his furniture into his fucking house in Minnesota now after getting pushed out of Arizona.

I know. Better get it back out. We don't appreciate that for you, Josh Dobbs, but that's life for professional quarterback. He's probably kept it in the pod, 100%. Yeah, but you've got to make sure you pay those bills, because if not, you're going to get auctioned off, and it's going to be on storage water.

Exactly. Big Daryl. AJ, you think AQ makes this shot or not? How many people do you think we should give winners to? It's the holiday season coming up. Yeah. 15. I think 15 winners when he makes this first one.

I like that. Okay, I like that. That was very reasonable. Yeah, it was. Right there. 15 people, $500. All AQ's got to do before he goes to war games, put that football into that basketball hoop right over there.

He's had a great day today. He has. Great day. He's got a seal on his hoodie. It's not to save the Seals from getting killed by whales. It's the Navy fucking Seals. Amen. Four of them.

The only Seals. Well. Okay. All right. I mean, if you want to take a stand that seals aren't real, like the mammal, fish, whatever it is. Flex seal, not to mention. The mammal. Flex seal.

There's a package right over here. Seal. Seals. But we're right. Hey, we fucking roll with the Navy seals. Yeah, brother. Don't let them down. Yeah.

Good call. There's a couple different seals. Presidential seal. That is a seal. Finger seal. Don't let him down. Yeah, good call. There's a couple different seals. Presidential seal. That is a seal. That is. There's other seals as well, not just from the president. Vacuum seal. Seal the singer.

That's what. Yeah. It's by Rose. That's what he said. I heard him for sure. Seal on like a water bottle. That's a good one too. That is a good one.

Also seal on goggles. You know, you got to get that. We're telling you. You're not telling us. Yeah. Because remember you said. I know there's a good one too. Also seal on goggles. We're telling you. I know there's a lot of shut up. There's only one seal that matters. Amen. People are coming at me, huh? I don't know. Hold on, nobody can come at you.

Everybody's going to come at you. You want them to come at you. You're pro Navy Seal. Thank you for your service, AQ. Thank you for mentioning the Navy SEALs today. Thank you, AQ. Yes. Hero.

All right. Is this going in? 15 people, $500. Here we go. Make their dreams come true. $500 during the holidays. Too jacked up as a Navy SEAL. Ooh.

That was pretty good, though. That was a little high. He's a Navy SEAL for the next two days. Yep. He's already in the mindset. He's a method actor. He's like Jim Carrey. Yep. He's already in the mindset. He's a method actor like Jim Carrey. He's just got to be a regular-ass football player.

And if he could do that, 15 people, $500. When he makes this football into that basketball hoop right over yonder, A.Q. Shipley heading off to war games. This is bad. That was bad. That was bad. That was bad. That was really bad. Hope you're not throwing any grenades this weekend.

Throwing like that way, right? You can do it. Got to get close. Trying to get the drop right at her foot. AJ, any final thoughts here for our War Games competitor over the next 48 hours? I like to stay positive usually when it comes to these types of things, but I don't know if I'm super confident this third one's going in. Wow.

Thanks, AJ. The whole world's against you. This is what the Navy SEAL is prepared for. Exactly. This type of adversity is what you've been training for. This is going to get you ready for whenever they drop you in the middle of the fucking woods and tell you to come find us if you want to eat breakfast.

That's about to happen to you tonight in a pitch black. I'm ready for it. For good vibes, good mojo. Also, 15 winners of $500. Just put that football right into that hoop right over there. In A.J.'s face. Oh, yeah. A.J., I think you were right.

We all felt the same way you did. What is your guy's problem? I mean, you're not even getting it up there. I mean, that was there. That was there. Okay, see that? What I hear, though, is confidence. I hear a guy that hasn't lost a D,

but anything to say to A.K. to make sure that this is the ball that goes home for not only himself, but the Navy fucking Seals. It's not about you. It's about the United States of America. Exactly. Well said. Why don't you get into character and serve this beautiful country and the 15 people that win $500 when you put this ball into that hoop right over there. This guy loves Al-Qaeda.

He never played for the Seals. He's going to Seal camp. We don't need him. Why is he making it for the Seals? We don't want to do the Bama one. Hey, Q, you already asked. Oh, and a donation. Okay.

You're right. Here you go, A.Q. What do we got? 15 people, $500. Okay. Also, a donation to this Navy SEAL Foundation. C4, yep. C4 Foundation. Done.

All you got to do is make the Duke into the hoop, and 15 people plus some good feel-good philanthropy will happen on this glorious Tuesday, just hours before you're locked in the woods with Navy SEALs and Jack Osborne. Here we go, AQ. For the good of the SEALs. For the good of the people! Holy shit!

The worst one yet. Took a good hack, though. You're already stealing valor this week, and now you're stealing donations. He's trying to earn a little valor, I think, is what he's trying to do. But he ain't gonna be... The Bama one's usually pretty easy. Yeah, Bama, is what he's trying to do. But he ain't going to be. Can't do it, right? The Bama one's usually pretty easy.

Yeah, Bama one is the one. The small hoop is bigger. Chuck's never missed it, so if you miss it, you're worse than Chuck. I watched Chuck miss a lot last week. Oh, geez, don't try to bring other people down. It's not an ABC away. I miss every week. I'm not bringing anyone down.

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Slow down. Con man? Yeah. As a man who's wearing 10 wolves on your chest today. Sure. And obviously a man who has numerous friends that are Navy SEALs. Numerous.

Yeah. What do you have to say about this Navy SEAL thing? Yeah. Dewar. Yeah, sure. A.Q. Shipley and his next attempt here to win 15 people $500 and a donation to C4, a Navy SEAL foundation. Honestly, I am

very negative when it comes to this stuff, but I think this one's actually going to be the one. Okay, Conch. Hold on. I've also checked the internet and people are calling you Osama Shipley. So if you don't make this, it's only going to get louder. Follow you forever.

And we don't like that, especially going into your Navy SEAL camp. War game. Here we go. Well done. William Regal. That was well done. That was right of me. Well, he's a part.

Oh, I thought you were telling me. Oh, my God. Hold on. Don't have second guessing because there's a lot of positive energy there. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. Here we go. All you got to do is make that 15 people $500 and a donation to C4,

the Navy SEAL Foundation, for a man who's going into a war camp here in about an hour or two. Thank you, Shipley. Good vibes. Good mojo. Representing. Oh, man. I thought that was in.

All right. Can't make them all. Or any. I'll hold the phone. All right. Well. Can't make them all. Or any. Yeah. Oh, hold the phone. Oh. Oh! Let's go!

What? Let's go! That was nice. No way. We could have. My hero. Of course. Count it.

That was awesome. You don't throw. You don't throw. You don't throw. You don't throw. You shoot. Count it. All right. Good job. Yeah, you're right. Of course. Count it. That was awesome. You don't throw. You shoot. Count it. All right.

Good shot. Yeah, you're right. AB Shields do. What are we doing? They shoot. Yes. He's first. That's on me.

What was that? Take. Take and the activity. Hey, that was good vibes. Good energy there. Hey, I'm proud of you, AQ. Way to bounce back. Way to battle adversity.

There was zero confidence in that basketball shot. That's what you need to go into war games with today. That was the best thing we got. AJ, have a good one. Mr. Rogers, thank you for your time. PK Subban, obviously, thank you. Can't wait for that game tonight. Matt Rule,

what a time. What a day. Look at that shot. Good work, AQ. Bang. Splash. Way to go, AQ. We got a shot. Good work, AQ. Bang. Splash. Way to go, AQ. You got a donation and 15. Splash. I think you were standing right in front of it with your head in front of the camera, but we saw it. We saw it.

Perfect. Hey, I'm proud of you, AQ. Great work, AQ. Proud of you, AQ. Wow. Got a good eye on that. That was a good shot. Good shot. That's a tough shot. Yeah. Good shot. That's a tough shot. Look how fucking surprised I am.

You were surprised. Yeah. I think we all were. Yeah, we all had no idea what was happening there. You know, that's the funny thing about life. I love it. Sometimes the things that you have no idea about to happen turn into be great things. The best things.

So just live in the moment. Don't try to forecast what the future will be too much because then you're going to find yourself worrying about what it might not be we have no idea what that is in the past move past it yeah learn from it keep it moving and enjoy the hell out of right now because that's what it's all about amen be a. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice that might change their life. We'll see you tomorrow. Hey, big one tomorrow. Massive show.

Big one tomorrow. Oh, yeah. Very excited for it. Goodbye.