The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1035 - Belichick Out In New England Rumors, Watt Wednesday With JJ Watt, Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the rumors that Bill Belichick is allegedly already out in New England according to sources familiar with the situation via Tom E. Curran, and that the decision had been made after the Colts/Patriots game in Germany, Tommy DeVito and Zach Wilson being named the AFC and NFC players of the week respectively, they highlight some of the filthiest plays from the NFL this weekend, and discuss everything else happening in the NFL as we prepare for week 15. Joining the progrum to chat about everything happening in the NFL including Joe Flacco’s resurgence, officiating in the NFL, the transfer portal in college and college football as a whole, his thoughts on the “hip drop” tackle getting outlawed potentially and how difficult it is continuing to become to play defense in the NFL, TJ’s status and the concussion protocol, how Burnley is doing and what they need to do to avoid relegation, and much much more (1:08:09-2:35:43). Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this what Wednesday, December 13th, wow, 2023, this sports program starts now. Football! Is not happening on this particular day, but it will be happening when week 15 kicks off in beautiful fashion. Tomorrow night. As the Chargers and the Raiders. off in beautiful fashion tomorrow night as the Chargers and the Raiders take on each other. We're excited.

We are excited. We are pumped up about it. Obviously, that'll be a great way to start a weekend that has NFL football on Thursday, Saturday, and Sunday. We will have the honor and the great fortune to be at the Steelers-Colts game, 4 o'clock Saturday.

I don't know how we're watching a 1 o'clock game, but we're going to have to because the Bengals could continue to do something on this beautiful AFC journey that they're having with backup quarterback Jake Browning, who can spin it. And then the Minnesota Vikings, welcome to the starting lineup, Nick Mullin. Add it to the number. Then obviously Steelers, Colts, a couple backup quarterbacks there, one of them being Gardner Minshew. Need to watch that.

Yeah, yeah. Need to watch that. And then the Denver Broncos take on the brand new Lions. Not as many people eagerly getting to their microphones. Come on. Alongside of you now. Lions have a chance to obviously turn this thing around after a couple weeks' schneid. But what will MCDC have the boys doing?

We assume answering. Speaking of answering, Denver Broncos Sean Payton and Russell Wilson have done as such. Same with Vance Joseph, defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos, who was almost fired like five, six weeks into the season. They gave up 70 to Miami at one point. Russell Wilson in that offense was just as inept as it was last year with Nathaniel Hackett. Then he started looking at stats.

He's like, wait a minute, Russell Wilson's actually not doing too bad. Corlin Sutton all of a sudden is becoming the guy out there. Pretty good. Sean Payton's back in his bag whenever he's calling plays. Look out for the Denver Broncos getting four in Detroit. I think they're one game back of the Chiefs. That feels tasty, doesn't it?

But this could be the brand new Lions. We should see. We've got a great weekend and we've got a lot of conversation today. There's some rumors coming out of New England. We're about to dive into it in a few moments. We've got J.J. Watt joining us. What a weekend from the past. Obviously, A.J. Hawk will be here and

all the other rumors and congestion that's happening around football we'll talk about. Hell yeah. There's a story that has led every sports media show this morning. I'm pumped about it. Out of the NBA. Rightfully so. Good Lord. See, what Ty just said I don't think is accurate.

We are so confused on why. There was a 30-minute segment to lead off a guy who was in two Hall of Fames, Mike Greenberg. Why Draymond Green conversation about him smacking a guy in the mouth last night in the middle of a basketball game. Draymond Green did what Draymond Green does. This is his first time doing this? Third time this season.

And remember, we're not even past All-Star break yet. It's not even Christmas yet. This is just standard operating procedure for Draymond Green, and we all know Draymond Green. He's the founder of New Media. Remember this guy? Hashtag New Media, Draymond Green. Bingo.

While working for another person that's in the media company, doing that whole thing. This is Draymond Green stuff. Why is this a 30-minute conversation? The way people led this off today with every single show, you would have thought that he would have went to the bench, grabbed a katana, and put it through

someone's chest on the floor. A what? He grabbed a what? A katana. You just learned that name, it sounds like. What is that? I know. Katana is a beautiful sword. Samurai sword. It's like calm. Now, was I scrolling a website last night? A great website.

Nick and I scroll it all the time, and boy, they have some great katanas on there. Why are we scrolling sword websites? What's going on? It's not a sword website. It's one of those websites that have a lot of cool things. A porn website. Close. That's what I thought.

I mean, look, we know. People say it's a lot of hot things. That's what they say. But they have the latest tech gadgets, cool watches, stuff like that. You just scroll through. And they had a katana on it? They had a bunch of katanas. That's one half of the hammer.

Darn. Cowboys turn digs. They were acting like he grabbed a katana and stabbed somebody. A little bit. This is maybe the best thing Draymond Green's ever done. The nicest thing Draymond Green's ever done. Remember, he did punch his own teammate right into another planet pretty much at practice on film. This is Draymond Green basketball.

I don't know what the big deal is, but we will certainly not talk about that anymore. The talk today was here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt, nine-year NFL vet, host of Everything DB, and today, good day and bad day. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butler. Thank you, Mark. All right, let's get into the big news story of the day. Yesterday, it was broke by the Greenlight podcast with Chris Long's Twitter account that Tommy Curran said on NBC Sports Boston

that basically the decision's already been made. Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots are going part ways at the end of the season. That decision came after the loss to the Indianapolis Colts in beautiful Germany. Robert Kraft and the people that Tommy Kern talked to, he didn't say it was the Krafts, but the people he talked to in the building, had decided at that point they're moving on from Bill Belichick. Since that point, not a lot of great has happened other than primetime win over the Pittsburgh Steelers. So Tommy Curran basically reiterated the fact on NBC Sports Boston that from his understanding

and from his, it was like a matter of fact that they're moving on from Bill Belichick. Ty Schmidt, we obviously have relationships with Tommy Curran. We've seen him at his Lake Hass. We've seen him at his Hass Hass. We've seen him at Bingo. We've seen him at bingo we've seen him at work

we've seen him we we know tommy kern oh yeah tommy kern's been covering the patriots a long time tommy kern has connections in the new england patriots world i said i don't envy your position to robert craft what tommy kern was basically saying is that the decision's already been made we reached out to him to get a little clarity. What did you learn in that conversation with him? He's saying this is just what's happening, or how did he kind of reiterate the message to you? Yeah, very similar to that. He basically said that as of that time in Germany

that the decision kind of had already been made based on who he is talking to in terms of his sources. He didn't say whether it was in the organization. It's just sources that he has close to the team that would be in the know. And then he said, now things could change. It's possible things could change. But he said, you look at post-Colts game, things haven't gotten better. Granted, they won on Thursday night.

Oh, great win over Pittsburgh Steelers. But he said, Matt got benched. Get beat by the Giants. Get beat at home 6-0 by the Chargers. So he said, yeah, things could change. But as of the Germany game, when he was talking to his sources, the decision had already been made. And that's not his opinion. And it's not necessarily a statement of fact either.

But from what he is hearing, that decision had already been made after the Colts game in Germany. That tweet from Chris Long's Greenlight podcast, that one went. Yeah, yeah. It went. It said per NBC, too. Didn't even say NBC Sports Boston, which I think would have even more amplified it all, which is where Tommy Kern is.

They have since deleted that tweet and I think put another tweet out that kind of like re-clarified it. But that thing went. And yesterday, all of a sudden, I'm on the internet and I'm just having a little time, you know, and I just, one little refresh of the thing and it was, Bill Belichick's gone from New England, pretty much. Decision's been made. That's pretty much what happened whenever Tommy Curran says this thing

and then it gets kind of amplified by everybody. How'd Boston and New England respond to this? I assume it got loud over there pretty quickly? Yeah, it got loud. I think a lot of people are split on it, just because like we said on Monday, people don't really know that. Thank you very much. It's finally here. It's finally got here.

But first thing with Tom Curran. That stache is good, too. That stache is really good, too. He found out the ratio of the stache. Yeah, JC. Shout out to the back porch barber. He got it. He nailed it. Yeah, the mustache looks really good.

Good to go? Is that about a 2 o'clock shadow? Yeah, so it's 1 actually. There's more wool. I've been going 2, but it's a 1. He said 3-day scruff. I want to let you know, you can even drop that down to noon. I was thinking about it.

Mustache is really good. Just maybe just let that thing shine. I mean, spotlight. Spotlight that thing shine. You know what I mean? Spotlight. Spotlight that thing. No, absolutely. I think I'm going stash beer just because the stash people already have. You know, I got to do my own little flair with it. Parker McCollum, you know, introduced light ranching into my life.

Bingo. And then also word curtain as a mustache. I like that one. That's sweet. Yeah. This might be light stashing. That's what I was thinking. Oh, not bad there.

You know? How's the stashing up in New England I was thinking. Oh, not bad there. You know? How's the stashing up in New England, though, with the news that Tommy Kern basically said after the Germany game, lost to the Colts? Sorry about it. Oh, my God. It was a huge game. Was it the Colts?

Could have been. Sounds like it. Oh, my gosh. That's what Tommy Kern was reporting. I'll tell you what, Indianapolis Colts, people need to hear that because there was a lot of bad days. Yeah, Kraft was like, oh, my God, we lost to the Colts. Well, and if you think about what Jim Irsay did last year against the New England Patriots,

immediately after losing to the Patriots, he said, get out of here. And he hired an old ball player, Jeff Saraday, to be there after the New England game. That's funny to think that that rivalry felt like a genuine one, a real one. But let's go back to what Tommy Curran said in the reaction. Whenever that thing runs and everybody kind of across the football world hears that and just assumes, like, okay, that decision's been made, how does New England react? Are they pissed at Tommy Curran for saying this?

Or how, what is it all, you know? I don't think they're pissed because Tom, genuinely, you mentioned it, he's worked for covering the Patriots for 28 years, 27 years, and every year That's a lot of sources. Yeah, a lot of sources. Well, a lot of people. Whoa, whoa, whoa.

How many sources are still around 27 years ago whatever who cares he is spot on every year with how the team's gonna do so tom curran when it comes to like the x's and o's of the patriots i personally believe he is one of if not the best guy to listen to when it comes to expectations i mean shit he came on last year and he talked about before the season, you know, this isn't a 10-win team. This is 9-8, 8-9. What'd they do? They went 8-9, max rookie year. He said if Mack could play well, this team is going to do well,

10-7, go to the playoffs. So when Tom Curran speaks about the Patriots team, I always listen because I genuinely believe what he says. When it comes to this and when it comes to anything that comes out of sources, and I believe the term was used, sources he had at the time in the know. What a ridiculous statement. What an asinine thing to say. Even if that is what the situation is,

what a sellout, buffoon type of thing to say. If you're going to report on something, report it and say, my source says, insert whatever bullshit quote you want. But to dance around it like that, I have a problem with. I wouldn't believe Jonathan Kraft if he came out and said, yeah, we've made a decision. It's going to come down

to Bill and Bob sitting in a room and whatever thoughts were before that are out the door. It's essentially going to be like Kraft, Bill, and Tom when Kraft had to kind of mend the fences of Tom and Bill because there was that report that it did get pretty hectic in 2017. They mend fences. They win the Super Bowl in 2018, and then 2019 he leaves.

But until that happens, no, I'm not going to listen to anything that comes out. They could report that the decision has been made every single week from here until the draft. And I won't believe it until Bill Belichick's talking about it or Robert Kraft's talking about it. And that's just the state that it's in just because so much shit gets out. How many times in the offseason do we have to dance around sources telling somebody about something? About a player that's entering the draft? About a relationship with the team? season, do we have to dance around sources telling somebody about something, about a player that's entering the draft, about a relationship with the team? I lost to Fon Diggs in the bill.

It's like, sure, there can definitely be smoke where there's fire. And I would be an absolute idiot to say that there's no way he gets fired. That's a real situation and it's possible. But no, I'm not going to believe a source who is in the know at the time on an opinion that it could be right. Definitely, Tom, could 100% be right. And the decision could be made. And it could be done.

That bill is gone. But it's very, very hard to believe that in the middle of a season, to Bill Belichick, they decide, you know what? You lost to the Colts overseas in Germany with Matt Jones throwing two interceptions inside the 10-yard line. This one's on you, Bill. Time to go. Pack your shit. We're not sticking with it anymore.

I just don't believe that. But Tom Curran, as a Patriots reporter, unbelievable best. I do love that you started that with it. People aren't mad at Tom. No. People aren't. And then he wrote his quote down. And so what a buffoonery. Yeah. Terrible.

Asinine, I believe you even threw in there. Yeah, that's Pete. I don't know if people feel that way. Because some people obviously do want a new regime. And they do want to see a change. But me personally, as someone who comes on here all the time and we talk about reports and how much bullshit using fake sources or terminology like in the know at the time and how ridiculous that is

and I think it kind of seeing the tweets and other things get deleted I think kind of shines a light on maybe how that article was received by the people through the ears of Tom Curran and we'll see if he says anything today. I assume he's got a few shows

to go on to to talk about it, which would make sense just because it is. That is not what we heard. What? I don't think he's going. Tom's laying low today. What? He's not doing any shows today?

He doesn't have anything more to add. Oh. He said in the know at the time. Yeah. Okay. So he's kind of like, this is kind of like. But once again, Tommy Curran was probably just trying to answer a question that was

handed to him. You know what I mean? It's not his fault that that's how he answered it. Now, granted, he should know that the fallout of that is going to be immense. Yeah, Tom. And the only reason why I think he should know that is because the reason why they started this thing is because I told Robert Kraft, I don't envy your position. And he shook my hand.

I didn't even ask a question, give a statement. I didn't even say, hey, I don't envy that you're going to have to make that hard decision to let him go. He might extend Bill Boat. That's not an easy thing to have to do right now, especially with how the conversation is going. They're going to have to move to a new quarterback, obviously. That's a whole other thing.

And then if he is to let go, which I'm not saying he's going to, it's one of the potential opportunities. You have to let go of the greatest head coach. You heard the way I – what I think. You have to let go of the greatest head coach, the greatest GM of all time. Those are two roles that you have to – that's not easy at all. I appreciate you bringing up the fact, though, that at some point they're going to get into a room together.

Yes. And there's going to be a lot discussed. Maybe hopefully even a little nostalgia. Oh, for sure. You know, because you're listening to get into a room together. Yes. And there's going to be a lot discussed. Maybe hopefully even a little nostalgia. Oh, for sure. You know, because you listen to Robert Kraft talk, and I got a chance to chat with him during a commercial break and obviously on the show as well. One of his first answers to Herbstree whenever he asked him about why all of his businesses do it,

like Patriots do good, but also he has a lot of other businesses, and they all do well. And one of his big things is like loyalty. You know, like we keep people around a long time like that's a big part of our entire uh you know a pillar of all of our businesses is people working for us for a long time and so they know they get the culture they do that whole thing so it's like whenever you think about that and then you go back to the fact that i heard i don't know if it came from him or somebody he was i think was somebody he was with uh you know how many like home playoff wins they had in the first 37 years of the Patriots? It was like one.

In the last 30 years since this guy's been the owner, it's like 30-something. It's like a complete. And a lot of that is obviously because during the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick era. For sure. So Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft have a lot of history. And then there was those quotes whenever the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick stuff was happening where Robert Kraft was going down an elevator and he was caught coming out of the elevator and he said, I got to go deal with the biggest asshole in my life, Bill Belichick.

And I'm like, this is how Robert Kraft feels. He's picking Tom Brady over Bill Belichick because he doesn't like him. So there's been so much that has come out since Tom Brady's release. You could tell Robert Kraft has great respect for Bill Belichick, very loyal and thankful for Bill Belichick. Very loyal and thankful for Bill Belichick. So this is not an easy time at all for anybody. And he mentioned how this is 30 years on the team, never been like this before.

So once again, I don't envy your position having to do all this. In the end, if Bill Belichick stays, I think he wins. If Bill Belichick goes somewhere else, I think he wins. I think he's coaching though. And I think that wins. Oh, yeah. If Bill Thatchik goes somewhere else, I think he wins. I think he's coaching, though. And I think that's what everybody around him has said.

And could you fathom if he went somewhere else? It looks so weird. Weird. At this point, it looks so odd. But at the end of the day, you spoke about him in business. He is, to Crabb, he's still an asset, right? He's still got one year left in his deal. So even if he, hey, negotiate your own trade, Bill. Find a good trade.

Obviously, Kraft will have to sign off on it. Yeah, first. But I don't think – I'm kind of with Connor here. I don't think that decision will be made middle of the season. And then would it get out? They're so locked in on what's going on now. And obviously, the season's been shitty the last couple years. And then you get your Mac Jones.

You don't have a quarterback. Where are you going to be in the draft? I don't see that decision being made and then getting out at some point. But I love how fired up you are. Oh, he was jacked up. Oh, yeah. I can't remember the last time I kind of went to some notes and get an exact quote. Let me see.

Sources at the time in the know. You got so mad about it. Yeah, no, because it's frustrating. It is. Obviously not just that situation. Like the Patriots being 3-10 sucks. Like, I haven't looked forward to a Sunday since week three, and that's when the Cowboys won like 30 games.

But you've done a little reverse where you're like, yeah, I want to lose. Yeah, at this point, no, bingo. Like, I had to reframe this season in my brain completely because, you know, going into it, you always think, hey, we can squeeze out 9-10 games, no doubt about it. Once we get in the dance, who knows? Our defense might just get hot. It happens all the time.

But once you do get to the threshold of, okay, we're going to be a bottom five team and we need a quarterback, it's easy to pivot because then it's like, okay, it doesn't matter if they win or lose. If they win, it's hilarious because the other team is going to be pissed. You bringing up loyalty about Robert Kraft really really didn't kind of kind of hit me or made me think until right now because of him saying that if bill were to leave gerard mayo will be the next head coach because he was supposed to leave last year instead he took a deal where he probably would have been a dc or at least uh possibly a head coach and he decided to stay

so if the bill thing does leave based on what Bob said there, it is without a doubt Gerard Mayo. Why, then this is an honest question, why fire Bill if you're just going to stay within his tree or someone that's already on the staff? Oh no, believe me. New voice. I agree.

I just think the loyalty and yeah. New voice. I mean, Gerard Mayo is beloved, you know, in the area, on the team and organization. And it will be a lot of the same things. I'm sure that he learned from Bill as a player and then been an assistant coach. But it will be a new voice. It will be a fresh voice, younger, different, I guess more with the –

because things change. People change. Players change. Different dynamic within that building. But I think Gerard Mayo will be an excellent choice. Just to give an example, I don't know Gerard Mayo. I assume he will be. And if he's loved in town, you'll win the headline too.

You'll win a news conference whenever you sign him, the whole thing. But just to reiterate kind of his point about a new voice, and I could see where you would think that, and maybe that's true in some places. Frank Reich had Sirianni in history. True. Then Sirianni goes to Philly. Yeah.

Guess who's in history? Shane Steichen. Shane Steichen comes to Indianapolis. Completely different team than Frank Reich, who's the main. He's the seed of that tree. Maybe tree wasn't the right word of what I was saying. It's someone that's already in the building that is there every day. Oh, you're right.

Maybe fresh eyes. You're saying a little fresh eyes from outside looking in. Speaking of fresh eyes and on something, we lose one game in primetime to the Tennessee Titans. On hard knocks. Will Levis is saying, are you not entertained America? First rookie quarterback to throw for

300 or something on Monday Night Football, whatever the story is, and he certainly had a great night for those Tennessee Titans. Yes, he did. The Miami Dolphins, though, they were without Tyreek Hill for whatever reason. We have no idea why he was not playing football for an extended period of time during that game

and then why they chose to utilize him in the manner that they did in the second half when they certainly could have, you know, utilized him. And there's a lot of people taking shots at Tua right now like, oh, without Tyreek, look at him, he's nothing. Tyreek is that offense. What do we we even why aren't we acknowledging that there was times when Adrian Peterson was playing for the Minnesota Vikings guess who was the offense Adrian Peterson was the offense so are you just going to bury everybody else because that's the case like Tua is a phenomenal quarterback he is incredible he

makes all the throws he is the perfect quarterback for this particular offense. But whenever you're talking about defense is preparing for an offense or why an offense goes, it's because that guy who's getting a horse collar hip drop tackle. Outlaw it. Jerry Jones is on the side of that now. Come on, Jer.

20 miles an hour. It's not easy or whatever. But that guy right there is faster than anybody. So the late motions that you run, the reason why it's so effective is because everybody on defense is taught 10 is who we are paying attention to. So whenever he's moving right before the ball is snapped, you've got everybody's eyes going to the most dangerous player on a football field. And then the ball snapped, and all of a sudden, just a slight little delay. You've got better leverage on your blocks. You've got people a little bit open. It's like he is the straw that stirs

the drink for the Miami Dolphins offense. And for whatever reason, he was not able to play for an extended period of time. He would then come back and play. Like, what are we... And he would come back and be full speed. And bouncing and hopping. So it's like, they have one loss to a team in which they don't have their

main piece for a majority of the game, and they're already calling a players-only meeting. What is going on? Omar Kelly's been covering the Miami Dolphins for a very long time. Dolphins coach Mike McDaniels said players met on their own today. He hasn't had a team meeting. Oh, boy.

That's not good. Michael. We have J.J. Watt joining us here in about 38 minutes or so, and obviously he preached about five, six weeks ago. If you're having players-only meetings, go ahead and start scheduling your vacation. Go ahead and start planning what you're going to be doing for wildcard weekend or maybe first round

because your team isn't going to be there. Darius, is this just for the hard knocks cameras? What the hell? Why are they calling a players-only meeting? Or do you think there's maybe some stuff going on in the locker room that hasn't been apparent? Because when you win, it kind of just gets covered up. But when you lose, everybody wants to bring something to a head.

Should we be scared to death about a players-only meeting in Miami about the Dolphins' future? Nah, you know, I like the head coach, I like the quarterback, I like the team. But just how bad of a loss that was, not only with Tua and how he played, didn't play great. Obviously, Tyreek in and out of lineup but uh the defense like how you let Will Levis just drive the ball down there that Tennessee basically tried to hand you the game so everybody everybody's hand was in on that loss coaches players included so it was one of those bad loss maybe it was some things said in the locker room uh maybe during the week they saw something that was going on I'm I'm usually you know red flag when you see the players only meeting

as well but uh where we're sitting at right now we still got everything in front of us I'm not I'm usually, you know, red flag when you see the players only meeting as well. But where we're sitting at right now, we still got everything in front of us. I'm not overly concerned, especially with Tyreek Hill. I expect him to be back in the lineup as well. Lose the center, obviously. That is a major blow to our offensive line that's already banged up a bit. But, Gumpy, you know, you weren't completely bummed out. No. But pretty close to the most bummed out.

Yeah, pretty bummed out. Shout out to Butch Bechdor back there in Pittsburgh. Yinzer Hero, Vietnam War veteran who has passed away. We've heard from his family, by the way. That was really cool. Really cool to hear. What a moment. Family was pretty grateful about how we

honored Butch Bechdor there. You know, the man who was pretty bummed out. I'm bummed out. I'm bummed out. I'm bummed out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

After the Dolphins conversation, there is someone else that we do have to commemorate. Who? What you do right now. We found out more news of a passing this weekend. Oh, no. Who? I'm a warrior. Man. In the form of a farm animal a warrior. Man.

In the form of a farm animal. Still. Mr. War Pig. Oh, my God, yeah. Good Lord. Wait, what? Good Lord, Tony. A man I defeated in Charleston, West Virginia.

In my first ever professional wrestling match. We broke the whole match down last week. We watched the whole thing. I think the day of Butch or maybe the day after Butch. I think it was the day after. The day after. Thursday. We were killing people after.

I said afterwards, War Pig was a sweet boy. You said he loved cigarettes. He did smoke a lot of cigs. Yeah. He's a War Pig. I smoked a cig with him. I don't smoke cigs. Yeah.

Smoked a cig with him because of how much he was seemingly enjoying smoking cigarettes. Please. War Pig was a dog. War Pig was beloved. War Pig is dead. Damn. Rest in peace, War Pig. Rest in peace, War Pig.

Thank you, War Pig. Thank you, War Pig. Thanks for doing the job for me down there in Charleston, West Virginia. You made me look a lot better than I certainly was. It was an honor to dance with you, War Pig. Rest in peace, sir. I dance with you, War Pig. Rest in peace, sir. My messians were warping.

That mask had to be so hot. He was ruthless with my left leg. And although I was playing opossum the whole time, it wasn't as a treat that he was attacking the wrong leg the whole time. Yeah wasn't a treat that he was attacking the wrong leg the whole time. My right leg is the one

that made money War Pig. Idiot. No. No. No. He was lied to. He was lied to.

Bad intel. He had a shifty manager. Also pigs are cross eyes. It was his manager that lied to him.

They see backwards. Images are flipped. War Pig, we appreciate the LA. Rest in peace, bro. Enjoy that great ashtray in the sky. Keep smoking. I don't want to have to do another moment of silence for anybody, but are the Dolphins dead?

Players-only meeting happening down there? Is this just for hard knocks? What do you think? I'm not seeing a players-only meeting from anybody else. Oh. I think this is him just saying McDaniel wasn't holding court. I have not seen that there was ever a players-only meeting. Oh, this is a false.

I mean, maybe it's players-only meetings didn't used to always get out. Yeah. I don't. I'm not seeing this as a players-only meeting. Yeah, because. My opinion. In the cafeteria, there's players-only meetings at every single table. True.

Every single table that happens, there's player-only meetings that are taking place. Barbecue. Now, there's some people that don't really think about much that's happening in football or in the building. They're just happy to be there. Let's have some food. Those tables have a good time. Those tables have good energy. You can see those tables.

But there are certainly tables in the cafeteria that are not happy about some decisions that are being made. And they're holding court, potentially. Maybe it's just one of those. Maybe. And that's not good. See, that's worse to me than even players. You're talking about the clicks. Yeah, when you get the little silos and people talking about some issues, those are

kind of cancers that spread. But like I said, it was just such a bad loss. Everyone can look at it. The Bradley Chubb penalty ended up being basically a four-point penalty in the game. The fumble going in, like there's just a lot of bad, bad shit that, you know, led to this loss. Bad loss, but look, we're still 9-4.

Yeah, everything's still in front of you. A lot of veterans on that team, too, like Ramsey, Chubb, X, Tyreek. I just don't see it as a terrible thing. I don't think it was a players-only meeting. We'll get to the bottom of it with Hard Knocks. Hard Knocks will explain all of it to us. I am not out on the Dolphins, by the way. Gotta beat the Jets.

Have to win this Sunday. You have Tyreek Hill. If he's healthy, they can beat anybody. They can also still pound the rock. They're running the ball for six yards a click here. Mostert got, like, what, 18 touchdowns? Yeah, like, just run the damn ball. Pretty good.

Pretty good. Now you've got a brand-new offensive line, so we'll be – will they be able to run the ball as well? We shall see without that center. That's a big loss. A.Q. Shipley immediately was like, yeah, big loss, big loss, big loss. That's a guy who studies centers. He also said during – in theches about the San Francisco Niners

offensive line, he was like, everybody sees Trent Williams. That offensive line is not that good or whatever. Then some stats came out that were like, everybody's calling Brock Purdy a system quarterback. Does a system quarterback not have a good offensive line? It's like San Francisco 49ers offensive line is hearing a lot of things about themselves. And they have a run game that's creating big gaping holes all over the place.

It's like somehow this Niners team that we think is a buzzsaw is continuing to get chips tossed onto their shoulder. It feels like they're going in one particular direction. A lot of teams at the top are going together. Maybe the Cowboys, I guess, are the only team that seems as hot as the San Francisco 49ers. They're rolling for sure. Legitimately.

Ravens, I guess, we feel very good about. But they stole that one from the Rams, so it kind of dampers it a little bit, not only just the rain and everything, but it feels like the Niners and Cowboys at this exact moment, with sources that we know at this time, feels like the Cowboys and Niners are the hot teams right now. I think both teams have won five straight. And they've done it in pretty convincing. Yeah, blowout fashion.

Yeah, like think about Thanksgiving, what the Niners did to the Seahawks in front of the whole country. What the Cowboys did to the Commanders, they beat them by like 50. And then they did it again to the Eagles. It's like those two teams, is it too early? This is the right time. This is when you're supposed to be doing it. Oh, yeah, this is the right time.

Post-Thanksgiving, this is when you want to be playing your best ball. You want to be healthy. We always talk about how fortunate you have to get in that department as well. Those teams are pretty healthy as well. So the five in a row for the Niners and Cowboys, second longest win streaks, three for the Ravens, and three for the New York Football Giants. Hey, speaking of the New York Football Giants,

congrats to AFC and NFC Offensive Players of the Week. The quarterbacks for the New York Giants and the New York Jets. What? Tommy DeVito and Zach Wilson. Wow. Holy hell. What a time. You go back just a few weeks, they're a laughing stock.

These two teams lose on back-to-back nights of primetime this season and most seasons more than any two teams in the history. I understand the tri-state area has more humans than anywhere else, but those humans all watch teams that suck. These teams stink. They have stunk, stank, stink for a long, long, long time. And now here we are after Thanksgiving football. Who's playing the best?

Tommy Cutlets and Zachy Sweet Boy Wilson. Congrats to both of them. Living a dream right now. Unbelievable. Now the Jets have less than a 1% chance of making the playoffs in the New York Times' eyes. I think the ESPN analytics and statistics say that they have a.4% chance of making it in. What does that mean?

No idea. What does the.4% mean? That means they ran the models and they ran the games, and who won, who lost, because that'll work. That knows. That obviously knows with the scores and everything like that. .4% chance. They got Miami.

They're coming off a players-only meeting. Okay. Okay, could be a buzzsaw got the commies here we go could do it got the brownies with joe flacco we assume that's gonna be tough and then the new england patriots the end of season out there and remember that commander's game was allegedly we're not saying this but other reports have said this that was when aaron rogers was eyeing he was going to come back that's Now, he might have been the source that said it on our particular program whenever we were

in New York in the Get Up studio, but that would have been filthy if he comes back there. Then he would have had to play that Cleveland defense. Then he would have had to take on Bill Belichick at the end for a race to a potential wild card spot. That would have been a great storyline. That's seemingly not going to be the case, but we do know Zach Wilson is playing good football. We do

know that Tommy DeVito is slinging it over there. The Giants have a whole new burst of energy. Where are the Giants at in the NFC playoff picture? How many games out of wild card are you, Brucey boy? We were one game out, but the ESPN analytics did give us the same

.4. We play the Eagles twice. I don't see any reason that Tommy Cullens can't take play the Eagles twice. I don't see any reason that Tommy Cullens can't take down the Eagles twice in three weeks. Of course! That's why the.4 is there. It's not even the fact that they'll have a book on Tommy DeVito

because every time he plays more football, the more they learn about him. They're actually going to play him a full game and then he's going to be able to do it again to that Philadelphia Eagles defense. That might be the Tommy DeVito gravy. That might be a little Tommy DeVito sauce out there. Because on the ground, through the sky, Tommy Bolognese is spinning it, and now he's a NFC Offensive Player of the Week.

That's a big-time title con, Matt. Yeah, massive title. I mean, I love watching Tommy Cutlets. I really do. And I do think that there's a chance that he screws around and goes to the playoffs. But we kind of talked about it a little yesterday. Does Dan Jones just change his name to, like, Danny DeJoneso and then just starts to become the guy in New York again?

Is there any way he can do that? Or is it strictly DeVito? Danny DeJoneso? I don't hate DeJoneso. Me neither. It's got to be a G instead of a J. Danny DiGionzo. I don't hate DiGionzo. Me neither. At all. It's got to be a G instead of a J. If he starts playing a little bit like DiGionzo,

if he starts running like he had earlier in his career and throwing a little bit like Tommy DeVito, who's not going to be perfect. Tommy DeVito has seen his defenses for the first time, too. People are saying they don't have a book on Tommy DeVito. Tommy DeVito doesn't have a book on them. They keep good books in that particular culture. Oh, yeah. That is something that I absolutely love. I'm happy

for him. Player of the Week thing is a big deal though, D-Boy. It genuinely is. Huge deal. Love to see it for both of these guys. Not only for their confidence. Obviously, when you play in that market, everything you do, you're going to have a big magnifying glass on it. Now, more so for Zach Wilson than Danny

DeJones. I'm sorry. But everything's going to be under a microscope, so great to see if he's got now for Tommy. Danny Canole. Great story right now. Great story. Four-game run. They were asking Dayball some questions, trying to compare him to Tom Brady already. Dayball didn't even

let him get the question out. And on the flip side, Zach Wilson. Both of these guys, I think, they keep playing. We see how bad the quarterback play is around the NFL landscape. Hey, you play well, you make yourself some money right now. You can be a backup for 10 years. Absolutely. Spend it for four games. What did Dayball say?

He said, Tommy B, okay. Tommy D can run. You see how fast he is? He has legs. He's got something that Tommy B don't have. Tommy Cutlets has the legs. Is that what Dayball said? No, he didn't say that.

He basically was like, don't even think about it. And that was it. Didn't even let him finish the question. It was awesome. Here's the New York Giants' remaining schedule, 5-8. They got the New Orleans team, which obviously we saw almost a fight in the middle of the field. Yep. Look out.

That's not good, but they got passion. That's true. They care. That's good news. Philadelphia Eagles, what are they? We'll see. Is that dog mentality? And Nick Sirianni came out and said that the boys who are calling plays are going to continue to call plays.

That's right. You need to relax pretty much. Are they going to answer? Are they going to respond, you think? I think so. I think Philly will respond. Now, you mentioned Cowboys, Niners, Wagons, but we always see that rematch. It's tough to beat the same team twice.

We'll see, you know, how – I'm sure they'll run into each other in the playoffs. I think they bounce back. And then the Los Angeles Rams are the only other team that they're going to be playing down the stretch here. Which – The team? They'll be dogs. Great team. Yeah, tough.

They'll be dogs in all of this, I think. Rams. Rams. Rams getting points. Rams at home, it might be close, but probably dogs in all of this. Tommy points. You know what I mean? Giving that guy points out there.

I don't know if that's what you want to do, especially with that defense. Let's go to the Cincinnati Bengals now. We're also having their own backup quarterback who doesn't have as sweet as a name. No, not at all. As Tommy Cutlitz. But Jake Browning out of Washington beat up on the Colts this past weekend. But they're not the only team. This dude spins the ball.

He's throwing it around. Zach Taylor's not scared at all to go ahead and utilize him in the same exact way that they were utilizing Joey B. Now, we're not saying he's as good as Joey Burrow or has the same thing that Joey Burrow has, but it's starting to look pretty similar over there in Cincinnati, and there's a lot of football left still for this Bengals

team that has had success over the last few years. Here's Zach Taylor calling out to the Cincinnati Bengals fan base for their game on Sunday against the Vikings. A lot on the line still. Here's Zach Taylor calling out to the Cincinnati Bengal fan base for their game on Sunday against the Vikings. A lot on the line still. Let's remember that. I do challenge our fans. We've got outstanding fans to drink

one more drink and rush in the stadium and be as loud as you can humanly possibly be when Minnesota's offense is out there and help our guys. That is a critical element that we get this home field advantage. We're not playing on the road this week. If we were playing in Minnesota, it would be a real problem.

And so Minnesota's here. Let's make it a real problem for them. I don't know what the question was, and I don't know if Zach Taylor was forced to give that type of answer, but Bengals fans, what the hell is going on over there? Are we not striping it out anymore? Come on, wear your stripes, guys. What happened?

What's going on? I like the stripes. That was Nick Rohn. Those are Pittsburgh Steelers fans that are doing that. I like the stripes. Yes. I like the fact that that was self-coordinated. Bingo.

I like that the stadium didn't have to do that. They did that themselves. I like the fact that when I watch primetime games in Cincinnati, it feels like a college atmosphere. I like the fact that it's windy. It's cold Cincinnati, it feels like a college atmosphere. I like the fact that it's windy. It's cold. I like that their fans really love this young team. Why is Zach Taylor giving out bird calls for their fans to be fans?

I didn't know that's how it – I didn't know that's what it's like down there by the highway. Ohio? And downtown. Is that what's going on? Well, well, well. Why is Zach Taylor calling for – you know? Zach Taylor said, have another drink. He's respectful. Since Zach Taylor's got there, the first year obviously didn't go great,

but since Joey B's got there with Zach Taylor, they've had success. He goes to the fans' houses. He goes to the fans' bars. He gives out game balls to the city. He drinks beers with them. He loves them. This team loves the community of Cincinnati so much so they're willing to walk through downtown to get to practice every single day.

Boots on the ground, that team. Talking to the citizens of Cincinnati. Walking the sidewalks that the bums are walking on. Walking across streets that cars are driving. Because they love being in Cincinnati. And now their coach has to say, hey, fans, why don't you love us back? What is going on in Cincinnati, Con, man? I mean, this is what happens. You get a little

taste of success. You go to a Super Bowl, and all of a sudden, you think week 14, week 13, they don't matter. This is the problem with these fans of these teams. You know what I mean? It's not just a Cincinnati issue. It's not just all fun and games. You don't just stroll into the Super Bowl every year. You don't just go to the AFC

Championship every year. You gotta show up in week 14 AFC Championship every year. You've got to show up in week four. I'm assuming he was bamboozled into saying this. I don't think so. I think somebody said to him, hey, maybe it was a high school reporter. Could have been. He said, can you give a message to the fans that we can run? We have a lot of Cincinnati Bengals fans. He's like, absolutely.

Hey, will you give a motivational pregame speech for the fans, maybe? Maybe that's what happened. Maybe we're overreacting a lot. I hope so. It's over, absolutely. Hey, will you give a motivational pregame speech for the fans, baby? Maybe that's what happened. Maybe we're overreacting a little. I hope so. It's overreaction. He was telling his fans to. So good. That's what I heard. College football atmosphere.

Used to. The fans ruckus. Get a little cold outside. He was promoting overconsumption, which I don't love. One more drink. He said 10 more drinks. One more. Well, one more sometimes is too many more.

It would only be one more. Impairment starts after the first drink. Let's remember that. Yeah, and you're never buzzed. I get it, but you're going to a football game. So a lot of Gil O'Rompis out there. He didn't say ten more drinks. He said one more drink.

Holiday season, let's be safe. But also cut it off whenever you need to. Does he have faith in the boys? Because he said if we were playing in Minnesota, boy, it would be real trouble. Yeah, that was a little. What the hell is that about? That was a little alarming, too. Let's run this back.

We're overreacting to this. We're overreacting to this. Yeah, the Bengals fans are loud on the internet. Those primetime games are loud. They are chirping. Hey, this isn't us. That's when I heard this. I'm like, what is going on?

I thought today was one of the best fan bases in the NFL, especially post-Joey B's success era. Coach don't think so. Shane Steichen, they didn't even say this because of Loud House, and they just beat us. What the hell is going on? Let's do it one more time here. Zach Taylor press conference talking about the fans.

I do challenge our fans. We've got outstanding fans to drink one more drink and rush in the stadium and be as loud as you can humanly possibly be when Minnesota's offense is out there and help our guys. And that is a critical element that we get this home field advantage. We're not playing on the road this week. If we were playing in Minnesota, it would be a real problem. And so Minnesota's here.

Let's make it a real problem for them. Can't win on the road? Minnesota's a good stadium. There's one in Jacksonville. Skol. Skol. Skol. Skol.

Skol. Skol. Skol. That Viking's been a little quiet this year, though. Yeah, but what if they take over the state? Oh, no. Is that what he's saying? What if a Skol chant busts out in the middle of the jungle over there

with their third-string quarterback? Not in the AFC North. It's not happening in the AFC North. I don't think so, either. Just Bengals fans, we have a lot of respect for you. We understand what's going on. That had to be a setup. I don't believe it. That was

AI. That was AI. That was the HeavensFX account saying that. That's not the actual Bengals. There was no way they would do that. Speaking of the Dallas Mavericks getting things wrong, did you see this? Mark Cuban sold

a lot, $3.5 billion worth of the team to the family that owns casinos. Sands Casinos, maybe? So for the first time in this new family's ownership, the Dallas Mavericks hosted the Dallas Cowboys' Deron Bland, but right across his chest on the Jumbotron. Oh, jeez. Trevon Diggs.

Can't do that. Now, they even said Dallas Cowboys cornerback, right? Yes. Right. That was right in there. And I think there was even like a Mr. Pick 6 thing, because remember last year, Trevon Diggs. He was all over it. 11 picks.

Last year, Trevon Diggs, he was all over it. 11 picks. Deron Bland does not deserve this to happen, especially with the record that he broke with Jim Nance on the call, one that will be remembered forever. Hey, Mavs, can't have it. Can't do that. He's saying a Mark Cuban thing.

Remember Mark Cuban, I heard him talk to the All the Smoke podcast with Stack and Matt Barnes. And they talked about how the away teams, the visiting teams, whenever you play the Mavericks, the food after the game is like a full buffet, like great food, take it, go ahead and leave it. Mark Cuban said that he wanted to do that to embarrass the other owners because that's like he's already getting all this food for the home team. He's like, we might as well do it for the away team as well. So people appreciated

playing against the Dallas Mavericks because the way, and Mark Cuban seemingly business man, always forward thing, this can't be happening. Can't do it. It's on Mark Cuban's team anymore. Remember, he's just running basketball operations. Is that what it is? He's not running everything else. This would be show and entertainment. It's not basketball operations? I don't know. That's what I'm saying. This is game day operations. Look show and entertainment. It's not basketball operation. I don't know.

That's what I'm saying. This is game day. I don't know. Look at his girl's face. Like, girl, wife, I'm not sure. Like, I'm not. What are we? Yeah.

Maybe Diggs. Maybe Trevon. Gave the taste. Gifted. Yeah. Kind of how Burrow gave Brown's family the sweet. Maybe say, hey, you know what? I'm chilling at home.

I'm laying low. Kind of like Tom Kern. Yep. I'm laying low tonight. Deron, take my seats. And maybe they didn't get the memo. Oh, and cameraman was like, got it. Yep.

Those are Diggs' seats. I have it right here on the – because they have a thing. Camera people have a thing on who's going to be sitting where. It's like a little piece of paper that's normally, like, taped right to the side of the one thing, and maybe that's what happened. Maybe it was Diggs' tickets. Sit down, and the human says, yep, there's somebody in D and maybe that's what happened. Maybe it was Diggs' tickets, sit down, and the human says, yup, there's somebody

in Diggs, that's Diggs. That's Diggs. And there wasn't even a single producer that saw the camera feed into the truck and goes, that's not him. Just real quick. Certainly black guy. Definitely

not Diggs. Definitely not D nobody thought i don't know how many eyes camera person one of them now he's just doing his job she's just doing their job i was told somebody in the seat put on there when that stream goes to a truck though that there's numerous people in there oh yeah there's a lot of checks and balance too many this. This is the new ownership. I feel like this is the new ownership. This is a bad way to start this entire thing. I could be wrong. I think Mark Cuban was at that game, too, so I bet he looked up and said,

what the hell is going on? What are we doing? You know what fixes this? What's that? Invisible helmets. We need to see these guys' faces more often. You're right. Adam Silver told us that the reason why the NBA

is so social media driven is because they're like YouTube stars because people see them. They get to make contact, the whole thing. They're very visible. That's why the NBA players are much more famous. Well, also, there's like one 50th of them. Yeah, true. I forget the exact number of people in the NFL. It's 1,600 or something like that.

I forget the exact number. 1,696 it used to be. Boom, there it is. NBA, there's only like 10, 11 people per team, so it's like 300. That's a vastly different number, so maybe that's why they're more popular. But wearing the helmet is certainly quite a brand killer. We showed the cloak the other day. Why not do it for helmets?

That'd be cool. You're right. Invisible. And also, that's why some guys take their helmets off, and then they get penalties for it. It's like, don't you think somebody maybe wants to see these pearly whites after I make a big time play? Yeah, just went to the dentist. The NFL just wants to hold them back.

Speaking of the NFL, do you know what the NFL stands for? What's that? Well, some people think it's the National Football League. That is accurate. But the NFL is a beautiful thing. Amen. The NFL is an electrifying thing. And the NFL is an electrifying thing.

And the NFL is something that creates moments that we get to watch every single week that make us go, Damn! How did that happen? It's the NFL, and the F stands for filth, baby! Every once in a while when you're sitting on Wednesday, and there isn't necessarily a lot to talk about other than made-up rumors from a source at a time and a place. Draymond Green doing Draymond Green things. You think to yourself, you know, there was a couple plays this past weekend that were awesome. That were fantastic.

That were spectacular. That were absolutely filthy. So here is the filth from this past weekend that we obviously all fell in love with. How about Josh Allen? Remember this Buffalo Bills team? They had a hit piece basically written about their culture the week before by Tyler Dunn. They have to travel into Kansas City to take on Taylor Swift

and the Kansas City Chiefs. The reigning, defending, undisputed Super Bowl champions. And look what Josh Allen pulls off in the fourth quarter against the Chiefs in a game that they would go on to win, obviously because Kadarius Toney's about a foot up. Look at this.

Look how close. Look at that. Ball out, foot down. Wow. Ball out, foot down. Knew exactly where he was. Unbelievable. Fade away pass in the NFL.

Are you kidding me? Two dudes throwing him into the sideline. Reporter Tracy Wolfson, and he gets it right to Latavius Murray. Now, he almost, you know, they reviewed this thing for a lot of reasons. But see, inbound, no way he did that. He did. His arm strength is fantastic. And did Latavius Murray catch that?

Close. It was a catch. Okay, sure. Yeah, we just gave everybody a catch. It was in the transition. Yeah, I mean, there was, yeah. This one was the least catch catch that was called this weekend in my eyes. There it is.

But I will say, Josh Allen making this play absolutely filthy. Let's go to another one, shall we, that we got a chance to watch this weekend that was stupendous. This Pukunukuwa fella, in his first 13 games, it's him, Randy Moss, Odell Beckham Jr., and... Is it Justin Jefferson? Maybe. Justin Jefferson.

Only players in their first 13 games have over 1,300 yards. Might be because Cooper Cup wasn't in. When Cooper Cup wasn't in, guess who became Cooper Cup? Pukunukuwa. Now there's two Cooper Cups on the field. And Pukunukuwa, no gloves, in Baltimore. Rainy, cold. Give me that.

Filthy. Come on. Look at the tape on the fingers. Don't get the stove. Don't get stove knuckles. That's Dallas Clark type stuff. Now, the throw is obviously fantastic. Now, there were some people on the internet saying,

that ball was supposed to be the Cooper Cup. Well, if it was, it's even more filthy. Look at the dive and the catch from Pukunukua securing the ball, turning the body, making sure it doesn't budge or move. This dude has been nothing short of impressive. We don't know if he soaks. No, we don't. No, no, no.

Wanting to BYU. Hmm. We don't know if he's laying up there getting tossed, but we do know that when he throws his body in the air and the ball is tossed to him, he's making the catch. Pukunukuwa, that is absolutely filthy. Let's go to the next one here. How about Heath?

Knew this guy existed for sure. Now, he just caught a touchdown on a previous play. They did not call it a catch. Look at the time here. Fourth quarter, 136 left, 21-16. New quarterback, new era. They walk right down the field on Monday Night Football in front of Tommy DeVito, his Pison agent, and everybody that is riding this Italian wave of momentum

with Dayball and the boys. Jordan Love says, excuse me, we just threw one cut. Here's another one. The directly down the goal line shot is the one we need to see. Shout out to the ref taking a hit, getting back up. Perfect form. Got it. I'm not going to call this before I get up.

Let's have a little respect for the call. Heath, also, let's get the face out there. Not a bad thing. Fingertip. Jesus. Damn. Great call by the ref, too. Yeah.

Because that was very close. And he could have got distracted whenever he got his legs taken out from underneath him. But instead, we have a fingertip grab that is absolutely filthy. From our man Heath. Thought that was a game winner. Yeah, so did I. Not when Tommy Cutlets is on the other side. We'll just say we don't have any Tommy Cutlets plays, but just know that Tommy Cutlets is absolutely filthy.

What's the next one we have foxy oh yeah remember this team they gave up 70 points to the miami dolphins earlier in the season this quarterback right here russell wilson he settled uh something called the danger witch that everybody hated he called himself mr unlimited everybody was burying him had a terrible year last year with nathaniel hackett his offense coordinator and head coach. Now Sean Payton comes in. What is he? Oh, he's all the way back. He's all the way back.

Russell Wilson's making plays. The Denver Broncos have hope. And look at the time from the offensive line that was certainly called into question last year and this year. So Russell Wilson can make old school Russell Wilson throws from the clods directly into a little push off, a little hold. Who cares? One handed snag for a thud by Cortland Sutton, who's been making these types of catches every week. Yeah, he's the new Ty Lockett.

This is something that Russell Wilson and Ty Lockett were doing every single day or every single game last year with Seattle in the years before. Not last year, but you get it. Now, Cortland Sutton has become this weapon for Russ. And let's talk about russell fake and then he throws that thing up turnover nice down like a missile right into sutton's arm and hand what a catch what a touchdown what a filthy play from the denver broncos are back in conversation. Yeah, they are. Holy hell. That defense is playing good ball, too.

You got this guy making this catch against the Chargers. That's a division rival. Okay. Are the Broncos rolling? I think so. What else do we have from the weekend that's absolutely filthy? Oh, this one. Oh, man.

Oh, wait. Damn shame. This one is not only filthy, it's disgusting. Okay? And the reason why it's disgusting is because it will never count. Nope. Ever. And some people say, hey, the first time you do the NFL and the F stands for filthy segment,

you put a play that doesn't even count in there. It's actually the main event. Don't you think that's maybe discrediting the entire segment a little bit? I don't think so. Not at all. This is the filthiest play I've ever seen. Now, if it's in the playoffs, if it's in the Super Bowl, obviously it's projected to greatest play of all time.

It is just a regular season game against a big-time rival, but it is a game-winner potentially, and it is one of the filthiest things we've seen when it comes to football IQ, athleticism, everything you could think of. Patrick Mahomes, second and ten, gets the ball. Down three. What's he going to do with the fourth quarter? He's going to find Travis Kelsey.

He's going to find Kadarius. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What? Can't believe that. With the high step, too. Travis Kelsey, high school quarterback. Eludes two people.

That's a good word. That's a great word. That's a great word. And finds his teammate with a quick release. Dan Marino. Could have got sacked there. The ball could have got hit out. He didn't hit. A quick release.

Spins that thing. Flick of the wrist. How you doing? 15, 20 yards right to the chest of Kadarius Toney. We have a touchdown. We have a game winner. We have a play that people are going to talk about forever. All the Swifties are singing about it already all over the internet.

That's right. Gidary Stoney, how high is the clean? How high is the filthy? High step as well. This was supposed to go on the mantle of both of these gentlemen. All three of these gentlemen forever at the Hall of Fame induction whenever Travis Kelsey goes in. They say his

innovation whenever he was on the football field was something that didn't get talked about much because he's an Ohio guy who's just supposed to be a meathead. Instead, he's one of the most brilliant guys who runs his own routes. He gets himself open. He knows where everybody else is on the field. He was like a second quarterback on the field whenever he was playing alongside one of the greatest quarterbacks

to ever play football, and they would show this play. Well, he can't. Not anymore. Never again. He's offsides. Damn it. The guy's offsides. Yes, he is.

The guy's offsides. Quite a bit, yeah. He scored the touchdown. He did. It was supposed to be on his highlight reel, too. To go up. So it is disgusting. But it was also absolutely filthy.

That was the NFL, and the F stands filth. Thank you so much for watching. That was fun. We should do that again. I thought of plays while you were doing it. Like, oh, that one too. Yeah, there was a chance Drake London was going to be in here with his catch, but every slow-mo copy we watch, it was like... It was actually just really

athletic. Yeah, incredibly athletic. The filth level, although it's certainly filthy, it wasn't at the level of filth. It was a nominee. It was actually just really athletic. Yeah, incredibly athletic. The filth level, although certainly filthy, it wasn't at the level of filth. It was a nominee. It was a nominee. It was a nominee. The Drake London, and we watched a lot of angles of all these, and everyone that made it in there, every angle was awesome. Yeah, agreed.

There was a couple angles of the Drake London one where it's just he jumps and catches it and nobody really. It's like a standard corner getting a pick pretty pick pretty kind of a tough play by the defense yeah and if you're Drake London you're Falcons fans I understand you might be bummed out sure okay but you didn't even know this segment existed until right that's right but you need to know that that seems to be very filthy it does that the filth level is great but then it's just yeah filthy yeah but The filth level is great, but then it's just, yeah, filthy. Yeah. But the filth level is not high enough. No. So he was a nominee.

Congrats, Drake Lotton, on being a nominee. Congrats, Blake Lotton. That was the angle. Yeah, that was the angle. That was the angle right there where it was like, not high enough, but filthy. That just seemed like. The Bucs guys just really just didn't play it.

Yeah, you know what I mean? That seems like just like, that's like a DB pick. You know what I mean? Yeah. Great adjustment. High point. Big guy. Great play, Drake. A couple tweets saying that as well. It was nasty. Not filthy what I mean? Great adjustment. High point. Big guy. Great play, Dre.

A couple tweets saying that as well. It was nasty. Not filthy. It was nasty. Okay, so nominees are nasty. And then the filth level, if it's up, you become filthy. I like that. Shout out to the NFL and the F stands for filth. That was a good time. We need to do more of that.

We show no highlights. No, we don't. Only show in the history of sports media that choose not to do a highlight segment. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. And we have all the setups to do it. Look at this screen. It's right here.

That's perfect. It's just right here. Yeah, but our eyes are going to be looking for filth this weekend. Hashtag. Hashtag. What did you put out there? What did you? We're PMS.

PMS National Filth League. Okay. They're going to love that. Hell Okay. They're going to love that. Hell yeah. They're going to love that. All right. We'll see them all. We'll see how it goes.

We will see it. Sending your anonymous. The NFL is a beautiful and electrifying thing. It's the NFL and the F stands for Filth. What a play by Josh Allen. Hashtag PMS National Filth League. All right. Man, Mitt loves it. Yeah,ag PMS National Filth League. All right. Man, Mitt loves it.

Yeah, big pop out of Mitt back there. He's in a great time. Swinging in the mitt. We'll see how it goes. Yep. It's all right. Me and Gumby talked about that earlier. Yeah, we did.

Gumby did nothing out of pocket there. But once you see it, it's like, whew. Yeah. But it is filthy. It is filthy. It is filthy, dude. Filthy's a good thing. It is. Filth. Filth. Maybe that's it. woof. Yeah. But it is filthy. It is filthy. It is filthy, dude. Filthy's a good thing. It is.

Filth. Maybe that's it. PMS filth. Well, that's still. Oh, you might get some. Yeah, probably get a lot of weirdos. Let's get to a break. We need to stay away from the sock bots on X.

It's a glorious thing. And although it isn't happening today, we are certainly chatting about all the happenings around the football world. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner. And, Ty, another Wolf shirt, huh? Yeah, yeah. It was in the locker already. I actually brought this in last week, thought about wearing it, and I was like, you know what?

I actually have a different one I want to wear, so it's been sitting in the locker kind of staring at me, so I had to wear it. Back-to-back wolf shirts is an interesting move, Ty, isn't it? Yeah, I don't know if I love it. What's that all about? You're losing your fastball? I was going to say. The strength of the wolf is the what? Pack. Oh, okay. Is this wolf not part of the pack? It is.

I don't know. It's isolated. It's a lone wolf. Looking for his pack, guys. Well, his pack is on the other shirt. There's ten of them. Yeah, I know. I've got to get this one home. No, that one seems to be a little bit of a loner. That one's trying not to be a part of his pack. Well, his pack is on the other shirt. There's ten of them. Yeah, I know. I got to get this one home. No, that one seems to be a little bit of a loner. That one's trying not to be a part of the pack. No, you see how it's faded in the background, kind of? There's three of them.

This isn't just one wolf. This is the wolf itself, and then the spirit wolf that lives inside the wolf is thinking. You do like to cluster your animals. Yeah, but I think that particular wolf is a selfish wolf. That's why I didn't join the pack over there. No such thing. No such thing. There is a such thing as a lone wolf. That's why I didn't join the pack over there. No such thing. There is a such thing as a lone wolf.

The only selfish... Only selfish wolf. You ever experience one of those, Foxy? A lone wolf? No, I have not. Hey, Foxy, what's a card game that you've never won in before? Yeah, now I know where you're going with this.

Yes, I have experienced many lone wolves in my life in the card game, Euchre. Okay? Not you've experienced them against your team. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Against you, actually, a lot of times. At Evan Foxey, obviously, the man pushing the buttons to change the cameras around. That is his work.

Viva Lozito is next to him. Nicky Marotta, Nicky Skates is up there. Bubba Gumpino's back there. Dirty's back there. Matt Brown's back there. Dirty's back there. Matt Brown's back there. Mitt is in the phones. And one half of the hammer died. Cowboys, Tone Diggs in the cowboy hat.

Yes, I am. Thank you. Tone, how are you doing gambling this year? Pretty good. Ooh. Pretty good. Unders. This is my season, though.

Bowl season's here. Oh, this is now we're talking. How many games on Saturday? Ooh, six maybe? Yeah, I think there's like 10 maybe. I think there is a lot. Nine-year NFL vet joining us on the stage here. An absolute stallion of a man.

Great onesie today. Oh, wow. D-Bot. D-Bot, you look cool all the time. Before we bring in A.J. Hawk, the legend, Miami Dolphins have told us that this is a normal day after game schedule on a short week. Coaches start working on the rest

of the week's game plan. Players watch film together and lift. So this is not a players only meeting that was being reported. Thank God. Joining us now, college football national champion and Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, father of 10, current president of Ohio, A.J. Hawk.

A.J., now that we have a new understanding of what's going on in Miami, in the first hour, we read a tweet by Omar Kelly that basically said it was a players-only meeting. I think that is just what he heard. And although it is a players-only meeting, this is not one of those emergency player-only meetings, if that makes sense, A.J., which is great news down in Miami. Yeah, that's definitely great news. I started honestly thinking maybe I'm just out of touch. Maybe it's passed me by.

You know, it's a different generation to where they don't look at players-only meetings like we did. Like, hey, this is meaning there's a problem and you're terrible. That's usually what players-only meetings were. So I just assumed kind of time passed me by on that one. Yeah, as we start thinking about that, this next generation, do they talk to each other as much? Probably not.

True. Right? They do kind of, though. I don't know, at least watching like my daughters in middle school, they're like weirdly mature sometimes on certain things, on how they interact with each other. It's actually kind of cool to see. A lot of phones, though, right?

Yeah, mostly text. A lot of phones. Player-only text group? No, yeah, but I'm saying maybe they don't talk as much because we're forced to because there's really nothing else. Yeah. You know what I mean? What else are we going to do?

Yeah, sure. We're going to talk to each other. So maybe we are just a different generation, and the players-only meeting is like, all right, we're actually going to talk. We're talking to each other. No phones. Now, granted, this players-only meeting sounds like it is a very normal one, and this is just how it goes about it. The coaches are

preparing for the game. They will kind of do their thing. Okay, we get it. We love that. Gumpy, don't be bummed out. Things are okay over there. We're on the up and up. We're on the up and up today. Go beat the Jets. I love that. AJ, did you hear the conversation about Tommy Kern and what he said about

Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots and how it was reported versus what it potentially is? And then did you hear the conversation about Tommy Kern and what he said about Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots and how it was reported versus what it potentially is? And then did you hear Connor's response of like, none of this matters? Literally anything anybody says about Bill Belichick and the Patriots future. And he echoed the sentiment of Al Michaels, who was like, nobody knows what's going to happen right now. He said a lot of people want to talk about it, act like they know nobody knows until Robert Kraft and bill belichick sit down in a room and discuss the future that's when it's going to be found out but boy the thought of bill belichick leaving new england is certainly big news in everybody's eyes and i guess it is almost at the point where we're about to find out if that's a reality or not aj yeah but it's it's

fun to speculate as to what could possibly happen with all of them, but I also wonder how much Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick actually speak about the potential future. Have they had any weird meetings this year that they usually don't have to where they actually talk about? Like say Kraft, does he ever walk into Bill's office? Hey Bill, let me... He closed the door behind him. So what do you think, man? What's your two-year, three-year, five-year plan? What do you think right now?

Yeah, that is... What if they're walking down the hall and they just happen upon each other? Bob, you got anything to say? Bill, you got anything to say? No? All right. And just two ships passing. Yeah, that's right. They'd respect that.

I mean, it's possible. It's possible. It'd be so weird. Oh, yeah. Next day, they do it again. Robert Kraft in his head, do I want to deal with this right now? Mm-hmm. Nope.

Bill, do I want to deal with this right now? Nope. See you, guys. Next week. Old married couple. See you later. Yeah. Kind of.

Been around each other a long time. Yeah, they basically are an old married couple. They've seen each other grow. They've seen each other go through relationships. They've seen each other have success, greatest successes. They've seen everything together. You know what I mean? And Bill has had to ask Bob for a lot of things. And I assume in return

Bob has also kind of requested a lot of things from Bill. They've been through it all. Which, once again, I do not envy Robert Kraft's position at all in this particular case, Conman. envy Robert Kraft's position at all in this particular case, Conman. No, it's brutal. And really, too, when you think about it, is it the first time?

It's definitely the first time in my life where it's like a decision with this big of a head coach. And obviously, the New England Patriots has kind of been at the forefront. I can't really remember one to this level. So there isn't anything you can point to when they did this, when someone else left their team after six Super Bowls, no one's ever done this. It's never been done. So I think the contract is perfect.

I mean, you have one more year. It doesn't really make much sense not to give him that year, but also if you're drafting a young quarterback in the first three picks, then you probably want the guy who's going to be with that quarterback for a long time. But when you talk to Bill, it doesn't seem like Bill's stopping coaching anytime soon. So also he could be there for the next 10, 15, 20 years.

Yeah, there was no disagreement that he has committed his entire life. I was like, hey, you're a kid at football practice. And then now you're head coach and both time-consuming jobs in football for 30 years. And there was no like, yeah, I'm about ready to stop. There was none of that in the conversation. No, he loves it. He loves football. Yeah, Lombardi has echoed that sentiment too.

Like Bill loves the day-to-day. It's not like he loves winning super bowls in this year's hell like he loves just planning and game planning for teams that's it hey robert bill good luck in there good luck figure it out smart figure it out i think how sweet that would be to watch it like 10 15 years from now that conversation yeah i wish we had the bill tom and bob conversation in 2017. Well, that's why the timing of this will be very interesting because the Dynasty series on Apple TV comes out in February,

and you wonder if while that is coming out, it gets announced that. Okay. This is just, wow. Isn't that so convenient? That's the date in my head as far as going forward goes. So how long have they been playing this? Ten years they've been playing this entire thing? convenient. That's the date in my head as far as going forward goes. So how long have they been playing this? 10 years they've been playing this entire thing? This is when we release

the Dynasty thing. And then we'll do the day of. And then the video, the teaser will be our conversation about the whole thing. They're so smart up there. They say chess, not checkers. That's a real deal. I can't wait to watch the Dynasty video. I can't wait to see what Robert Kraft does. And I'm excited to see what Bill Belichick's future is.

If it's still in New England, which I think we all are kind of on board with. I sure hope. I want to see him coach somewhere else. Me too. I think it would just be neat. Spread his wings. It is neat that he is New England. Oh, for sure.

For instance, in Green Bay, Lombardi. Yeah. Like that is. He went and coach instance, in Green Bay, Lombardi. Yeah. Like, that is. He went and coached, at the time, the Redskins. You know, like, he left the Packers. At the time. At the time. That was their name.

It wasn't the Commanders. It wasn't the Commanders. I mean, I don't know what you want me to say. But, yeah, it's the same thing. Just trying to be historically accurate. Exactly. Exactly. I don't want people coming at me like, this guy has no ball.

They weren't the Commanders back then. But either way, like, that's still kind of same deal. You know? And, obviously, don people coming at me like, this guy has no ball. They weren't the commanders back then. But either way, that's still kind of same deal. Obviously, don't look at me like that. Patriots fans. What about Carr? Carr. Joining us now is a man who might have a thought or a take on this. And listen, it's not your fault that was the name.

Did I name the team? No, I didn't. Dan Snyder could have changed that team name a long time. A long time. And he decided not to. There's a lot of people that are fans of that team, but that is still the name of the team. Absolutely. I don't know if they're ever going to get those people off of that. They're not throwing out that merch. No way.

They're wearing it. I've told this story before. Now it's a good time to mention right now. When the Commanders came to play the Indianapolis Colts in the Loud House, Lucas Oil Stadium, somehow. It wasn't the Loud House last year. Somehow there was a lot of Washington fans that have infiltrated the Loud House. A lot of them.

Somehow. A lot of them. Tons. Maybe the most i've ever seen or the bronze this year the with with the miles maybe the most like 35 40 percent of the thing it was it was like it was real every one of them had one logo on their chest yep and it was not commanders or wft it was just it was the the name that i assume they became fans of and they were wearing starter jackets oh yeah they had those old school those super sweet shirts that mitt wears oh yeah graffiti shirt yeah the division champs yeah throwback shirts every single part i didn't

see one single commander's logo at all and i'm like business can't be that great for merch over there well for the washington football Current owners kind of waffling with maybe going back to it too. That was allegedly not true. Anyways, joining us now is a man who might have an answer for the Bill Belichick-Robert Kraft conversation about what he would like to see because this guy's going to go

down as one of the greatest football players to ever play. He'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer. Obviously, he's the third member of the Houston Texans Ring of Honor. Ladies and gentlemen, how many times did he win defense player of the year? Four? I think three. Should have won it four times. Should have won MVP, maybe.

Yeah, but then Aaron. JJ Watt. I'm trying to figure out who I love Indianapolis. I love the people of Indianapolis. I love playing in Lucas Oil Stadium. Who has ever in their lives called that place

the Loud House? Everybody. Sounds like everybody. He's not heard of the Horse Power. Yeah, he's not heard of the Horse Power Rev. I've never heard it called the Loud House. I've never experienced the Loud House. It's a great place. I love never experienced the Loud House. It's a

great place. I love playing there. This time of year is one of my favorite times of year when they play the fireplace logs during warm-ups. I love that every year. But I would not describe it as the Loud House.

Well, you haven't been there in quite some time, brother. So why don't you pipe down? Do you know how new everything is in that building? We got traditions that started six games ago. That's right. They are already taking off. They rev the engines.

It's called horse power. Ever heard of the... Nice. We kicked the fire out. I love that. Yeah, we kicked the fire out. Yeah. You stopped it? We don't have time for the fire out. I love that. Yeah, we kicked the fire out. Yeah. You stopped it?

We don't have time for the log cabin. I understand that people used to call it the Lucas Library, okay? That was a sentiment that was maybe shared amongst the locker room in confusion of why these humans are at a football game. You could be doing what you're doing right now at home. Yeah, JJ. A lot of people used to think that. But now, oh oh it's a

tough barn it is it's a lot of us it's a lot of us right now it's showing up right you're selling out all right all right your brother your brother's gonna find out on saturday jj yeah wait till he is tj's talking so you're telling me there's no fires anymore? I told him to get excited for the fireplace. Is he playing? We don't do log cabin fires anymore, okay? It's the lighthouse. Oh, that sucks. That sucks.

That was a great tradition. I enjoyed that thoroughly. JJ, listen. Are you guys using tarps yet? Are you guys doing good business? Shut up. Shut up. Shut up.

Fair question. You're taking photographs from before the game. You're taking photos from other weeks. You're piecing together things. This is some grade A bullshit. Whoa! We're journalists. We got to cover these things. I don't want to. Did you hear what's going on in Cincinnati?

Did you hear what's going on in Cincinnati? We don't want to be the people that do this. Oh, JJ. Buckle up. Buckle up. Listen. Hang on. Boom. Strapped. You're going back to the Houston, Texas. You're. Buckle up. Listen. Hang on. Boom, strapped. You're going back to the Houston Texans. You're already working on a new celebration. Oh, wow.

Yeah, strapped. Okay, I didn't know. Well, you don't know. Here's Zach Taylor in a press conference the other day. We're not going to tell you how we took this, okay? We'll let you do your own reaction immediately after the video. Here's Zach Taylor in a press conference talking about this upcoming game. I do challenge our fans. We've got outstanding fans to

drink one more drink and rush in the stadium and be as loud as you can humanly possibly be when Minnesota's offense is out there and help our guys. That is a critical element that we get this home field advantage. We're not playing on the road this

week. If we were playing in Minnesota, it would be a real problem. And so Minnesota's here. Let's make it a real problem for them. JJ, we got a chance to watch your eyes that whole time. What did you hear there? What did you hear there? I was really excited at first. Like, have an extra drink.

Let's go. Come in. Be loud. Love that. Also, they're one of the only – I'm invested in kickstand. They got kickstand in the stadium, a cocktail. So, big fan. Drink some kickstand in the stadium, a cocktail, so big fan. Drink some kickstand. But then,

what a turn. You can't just say it would be a big problem if we were playing in somebody else's stadium. You're supposed to be able to play in a parking lot, in an empty field, on concrete, anywhere. It doesn't matter where you play. You can't say it would be a problem if we were playing in somebody else's house. Also, really nice house

Love Minneapolis, that stadium is phenomenal Yeah, we do as well We complimented Minnesota Stadium Him talking about what Minnesota's Home field advantage would look like First their own But then it sounded like he was telling his fans How to be fans there too

The Cincinnati Bengals fans are good fans AJ's one of them AJ, what the hell was that? What was that? I don't know. I haven't checked the state. Did they all just leave in droves once Joe Burrow got hurt? Or are they not sick? What's the deal? I don't know. We didn't hear the question either. We think there

was a chance that Zach Taylor was bamboozled. Maybe a high school reporter was like, hey, can you explain home field advantage to us at this press conference? We don't know. JJ, we don't know exactly JJ. We don't know exactly. No, the beginning was good. The beginning was good. Like to have an extra drink and get loud when we're on, that's fine.

I'm fine with that. That's just good old-fashioned like get behind us. But, yeah, I don't know why the second half of that went the way it did. They're good fans up there. I played up there a bunch. I like it up there. And they seem to have some good stuff going with the jungle. good fans up there. I played up there a bunch.

I like it up there. They seem to have some good stuff going with the jungle. They got the throne now where you sit on the throne with the scepter or whatever it is. Oh, nice. Take a dump on the throne. I love Bengals fans. I enjoy them. Against the Ravens, that environment, that playoff game where

Halbert ran it back 100 yards. It was sick. They're a good fan. It's a college atmosphere, I thought, in these primetime games. I guess at 1 o'clock when we're not watching, maybe a little different. I guess maybe the Gardner Minshew show came to town. They were scared to watch what he was going to do to the Bengals. So maybe this past weekend wasn't as great of an environment because they were all scared of Gardner Minshew and getting a chance to watch it.

So he's like, hey, we need to get back to it. Vikings, by the way, Justin Jefferson came out and said he will be playing. Wide receiver Justin Jefferson told reporters that he will play Saturday in Cincinnati. I'll tell you what, fans. You better hope that skull chant doesn't take over the entire place. Like what's happening down in Houston right now. You guys don't want to go to games. The other team's fans will come.

Right, JJ? This is ridiculous. This show is just a shamockery. a travis shamockery oh all right well we're just lying on people no lie that's all we do those photos were real uh maybe just not at the exact time in which we maybe not even in the same month maybe not even the same game maybe just do whatever you want ai ai these days. You know, you can't believe anything. But how are we doing? How's our soccer team doing?

Are we wearing hats still? We still playing? Oh, yeah. No, I have my mug. I don't do double memorabilia. So it's either the hat or the mug or a shirt. I don't do double. Yeah, too much of a say.

Yeah, it's Too much overkill. I got the Turfmore. I got the Burnley mug today with a little coffee. Big one-to-one draw on the weekend. Brighton Quality Squad. James Trafford had 10 saves. Our goalkeeper stood on his head.

I mean, stood on his head. Come on, Trafford. Trafford's a dog. I'm going this weekend. We got a board meeting on Friday, and then the game against Everton on Saturday. Going to be there. Me, Kalia, in attendance, looking forward to it. Let's go.

Pouring beers, pouring pints. Tyler? Let's talk about it. Is Tyler going to be there at the board meeting? Tell me about the board meeting. Is Tyler going to take, like, a pen, and he's going to throw it into that mug that you're holding? And be like, all right, let's make the deal.

If I can make this pen into that mug, and you're on one side of the table, he's going to throw it into that mug that you're holding. And be like, all right, let's make the deal if I can make this pen into that mug. And you're on one side of the table. He's on the other. And he's got 10 of these things. And he's like, oh, left-handed. Bang. Boom. Boom.

Pow. And we assume the first try will go in. And then you're like, all right, we're firing a coach. What does the board meeting look like? And what type of decisions are being made on Friday for this Burnley team? Because as a very interested fan, I would like to know about what's happening behind the scenes with my favorite club. Yeah, I mean, it's just a quarterly board meeting. It's standard stuff.

It's you talk about all the you know, you talk about the financials. You talk about the marketing plan. You talk about the on field. You talk about the transfer market coming up in January. All sorts of stuff. Stadium, everything. Let's spend in the transfer market. Yeah, let's do that. Where are we going?

What kind of money are you spending? Where are you spending it? January transfer window, not notoriously one for massive moves, but let's hear it. Where are you spending the cash? How much you got to spend? What's the amount? Yeah, whose money is it to? Is it just your money? Literally, you walk in there? I'd look at a guy

like Jaden Sancho, who can't get in the Manchester United team because they hate him. Very good. Get your team to pay a little fee. They still pay half his wages. Maybe one of the best players in the Premier League. Pitch us at the quarterly meeting on Friday, JJ. You're welcome. Look at us.

Look at us. We have real impact on a team that we love. How about that? Hey, Gopi, that was good. How about Polific? Where's Polific at right now? He's balling it. He's at Milan. It'd be good to get him out of there. He's balling. That's what we need. Landon Donovan, Clint Dempsey,

Tony Miola, ring a bell. I feel like this clip right here is going to be played over the pond, and it's going to be tagged with, like, Americans are stupid. Oh, are we? Wait until the next World Cup. It's our game now. It's coming home. Coming home.

Tell soccer it's coming home. Sorry about it, England. Sorry about it. It's our game now. I love this show, man. I cannot tell you how much I look forward to Wednesdays every week. This is the best. Except for when you take on the Texans.

Well, we don't take on the Texans. The fans don't show up for the Texans to take on anybody else. That's all we take on. We are actually big-time Texans fans. They gave us my cause, my cleats shoes. So cool. The Houston Texans organization takes care of this particular show maybe more than anybody else in the NFL.

I love the Texans. And yet we're still just taking a dump on them. We're not taking a dump. We're trying to motivate and inspire. Like, hey, listen, you got a team. You got a guy. You got a guy. You got a team again. This ain't just a turn down for one.

Actually, we're supporting the Texans because we want more fans to show up. So, actually, we're supporting the Texans organization. We're actually just questioning, you know, who's showing up. Look at us. We're good. That's why. God. Good for us.

We need to take a victory lap sometimes. Wow. Pat ourselves on the back. Every once in a while. Good job, guys. Good for us. We need to take a victory lap sometimes. Pat ourselves on the back. Every once in a while. Good job, guys. Good job. What a spin cycle. Let's spin. You're disgusting. Let's talk about the let's wrap up the Burnley conversation

because we're raising the Charlottes. Up the Charlottes. Up the Charlottes. Clarence. Clarence. Clarence. Up the Clarence. Up the Jets. I just looked at his standings. I looked at his standings here, and I think that line between 17 and 18 is an important one. Very important.

We got Everton on Saturday. Needed. The old Burnley coach legend coming back to turf more this week. He coaches at Everton now? Yes. Everton was where Timmy Howard played? Yes, sir. Okay.

Do they have any Americans on Everton? I don't believe so. They got demoted. I don't believe so. They got demoted 10 points, and now they've won three games on the bounce. Why'd they get demoted 10 points? What'd they cheat? Some regulations.

Financial fair play violation. What's that mean? They're just paying under the table to people? There were some accounting things that went awry, so they got deducted 10 points and then now just decided to turn into one of the hottest teams in the entire league.

Oh, yeah. I see that at the end there. W-W-W. That's not a website or anything else. That's their streak they're on right now? Yeah, this is approaching put your mortgage on Everton territory. Whoa! We're talking about some serious... Burnley's got results in 2-0-3.

They're playing good ball right now. Yeah, look at that. W-L-D. We got a coach revenge game. And just taking a peek here, Burnley's six feet under already. This might be time. I'm sorry. Connor, maybe figure your own teams out before you start talking about other people's teams.

How about that, Connor? Watch it. How about that? How about you guys figure yourself out? Stop leaking stuff over there left and right. We've been figuring out. We're under the draft, brother. Sinking ship over there.

Are you? Who's picking? You don't know. Who's coaching the pitch that you make? You don't know. Hopefully me. Hopefully they let me pick. I don't know if Robert Crouch.

Okay, who are we picking? Joe Walt. Who are you picking? Okay, great. So who's quarterbacking the squad? Don't matter. We got Joe freaking Alt, brother. All right, let's pivot away from Burnley.

Let's move to New England. Obviously, yesterday, you were on the internet. You saw it. It took off everywhere. Because the way the tweet was phrased from the green light podcast with chris long was per nbc now it could have said per nbc sports boston which is where it actually came from which made it even more legit i think on the internet tommy curran says after the germany game he was told from sources that know that the decision had already been made because they lost to the Colts

and then it hadn't got better. That obviously is going to go if it has been decided that New England is going to part ways with Bill Belichick, greatest coach and GM of all time. Your thoughts on it all and what Connor said in a moment of clarity after tearing down Tommy Kerr. For 45 minutes. Tommy, you went for like six minutes tearing down Tommy Kerr. Connor was not happy about this particular report.

But then he said, this is going to get settled with Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick going into a room. That's how this is going to get settled. It'll happen sometime after the season. He might come out of there with an extension. They might come out of there with him moving. He's got one on your left. Who knows what's going to take place?

What are your thoughts on it all and Bill Belichick the coach gm and what he's been able to do in new england jj before i answer i have a question for connor because he's obviously in the know with new england uh new england notoriously uh very the media obviously understands the dynamic there very well so reports and leaks coming out of there are few and far between tommy kern i missed your rant on it. Is he in the know? Like is this a very, very legitimate or is this like a sketchy where we're at? Tom Curran, nail on the head when talking about the football team and how they're going to perform.

I don't really trust anyone in New England when it comes to sources in the know at the time in the building. Okay. That helps nothing. That didn't help me at all. I appreciate it. So I would say this, like I do think that kind of what AJ was talking about earlier,

kind of like you were talking about ships in the night down the hallway. I think us in the outside world, talk about things, speculate things, think that many more conversations are happening inside of buildings than are actually happening. Do I think that thoughts are absolutely going through Robert's craft's head? Do I think that he's talking to some people in his circles

about what he might do? Yes. Do I think him and Bill Belichick have specifically sat down to discuss it? That I'm not as sure about. I do know like from experience, having been involved in whether it's, you know, whether it's trades or free agency or all sorts of different things, I think many less conversations actually happen than we in the outside world like to think happen. So I don't know if they've had that conversation. I do believe that Bill Belichick has earned the level of respect and dignity to be able to sit down and have those conversations. I mean, you win six rings somewhere. You should absolutely be at least in the conversation and not just be completely told that you're on your way out.

Yeah, I saw Peyton Manning get cut, and then obviously you move on from the Houston Texans. And I think what you were referring to, I'm burning some sage to get some good vibes out of there. Yeah, I was going to say, what's going on? Yeah, it's just sage here to burn so we can get good vibes in the studio as we talk about something that's very, very heavy here,

obviously on all of our hearts. Robert Kraft, I do not envy his position. For you, it sounds like what you were saying, and you've probably been asked about this a bunch, you had no idea what was coming? Not a lot of conversations took place whenever it was kind of the end of your time at Houston? No, the end of my time was a very mutual thing.

I actually went and spoke to them about it. I mean, there was some things going on and I wanted an opportunity to go and be able to pick my next opportunity. And I had a very, very respectful conversation with Mrs. McNair. I went over to the McNairs and it was Mrs. McNair, Cal and Hannah.

And I just was very clear with them, expressed my gratitude for everything and also requested the opportunity to, um, have a chance to do something else. And I have absolutely nothing but love for, for them. And Janice McNair is one of the sweetest women in the world. And I'm very thankful. And, um, it was a very tough conversation, a very tough conversation because of everything we've been through, but they were very gracious and allowed me to go and do what I was requesting to do. When I saw Peyton leave India and I see you leave Houston after experiencing what it was,

it was like, okay, here we go. Business is business. We got to remember that. And also there's people that are making decisions at places, even at the highest level that aren't making necessarily the right or the proper decision or acting how you would assume that they should act. And I think that is, goes along with what you were saying about how like the behind the scene convos that you hear about in like movies or like maybe a business book like you should always be very transparent

and you should be open with your feelings and thoughts with people it's like well when you had humans in there and feelings and pride and having to deal with the people it's not necessarily as easy to be like hey uh i'm about sick of your shit hey like that is not an easy thing to do everywhere so you're right i think people do get confused about that all it's going to be bob and bill yep just like it's always been there you go that's what it's always going to be when he needs 110 million dollars on the first day of free agency guess who's in the room bob and bill when he's deciding to move on from Tom Brady or not making an offer that forces Tom Brady to stay around guess who's in there Bob

and Bill now they're going to have their most serious conversation by far could you imagine being in that room I hope they film it I do hope they film it that would be a they won't I'm fascinated just to know what it would like the dynamic because obviously they've been like you guys are saying they're like an old

they've been together for years and years and years so they've they have a relationship they have a rapport there's i'm sure there's been squabbles and fights over the years but there's obviously a pretty serious level of mutual respect there as well like um man i'd love to know like is it something where robert craft walks in and he like he's just he's over it he's done he just wants it to be done and wants to move on. And Bill's not? Or is it Bill's ready to move on also and Robert's like – Yeah, JJ, that's what I wanted to ask you.

JJ, for real, what if Bill is – what if we're missing this? What if Bill wants a new opportunity somewhere else to go try to find a way? Is that a possibility you think? I think it might be. I mean, if you think about everything that's going on, I mean, it's, there's something cool about the length of his career and the opportunity to finish it out there. But then there's also, maybe he does want a new opportunity. Maybe there's so much of the comparison with, you know, was it Tom?

Was it Bill? What, how? Maybe he wants a new opportunity to go improve and show something that way. Who knows? I don't know. Maybe he's really comfortable there and loves living there and wants to stay there, and it's not his choice. Maybe we're all making this shit all up, and maybe they're going to come out after the year and be like,

I don't know what everybody's talking about. We're just going to keep rolling. Yeah, we never even had a thought of anything. It's like, never? Really? One year left on a contract. Bill, savvy business person. Yes.

Will he do one year left? Bob, savvy business person. Will he not utilize do one year left? Bob, savvy business person. Will he not utilize if he's going to move on from it? It is a fascinating situation up there. That's why any piece of information that comes from anybody that could potentially know, huge news. The NFL is an entertainment business, man. Like, don't let anybody fool you. Don't let anybody make you think it's something else.

The NFL is an entertainment business, and it is entertaining as hell it is incredibly entertaining we like we like some there's a lot of sports fans that like maybe their wife or somebody watches a reality show and they're like oh i can't believe they watch that i can't believe you're talking about what that person is thinking and in regards to this conversation well that's all we're doing we're just sitting here talking about what this person might be thinking might be doing it's our own reality show I've got to meet you know a lot of our fans with these Friday shows

and chatting with like significant others are with them sometimes and like some significant others will tell me like he used to make fun of me for watching some trash TV but then he'll watch games all day on Sunday and then we're watching your show just to talk about the things that we

watch for five days. Then we're doing it again for six months or whatever. She was like, I get made fun of. It's the most ridiculous. You've been a part of my life a lot. I just want to let you know. I'm like, I am so sorry for that, but it's pretty sweet. It's pretty sweet that we have this.

It is pretty cool. Even the fodder with Bill, like you would wonder too, would he want to go to a team that's already perfectly set up and he doesn't get to build it on his own and the credit's kind of like, well, the team was already good, or would he want to build his own thing back over? Who's that though? Who's that? Who would he be going to?

I mean, that's the thing with New England and staying for another year is it's the perfect situation. He wants that wins record, yeah. Oh, the Chargers. You get Herbert. But, I mean, you go to a team like the Chargers and he wins, then he's proving that it was him because they have the quarterback. They have the team.

Everybody kind of believes that the Chargers should have been doing it already. If he goes and he does make that successful, boom, you just immediately say that was Bill. If you think that people won't say Bill chose the Chargers because he knew that they already had Justin Herbert and sure, Bill helped, but the team was already there, they would way rather point the finger at Brandon Staley for being an idiot and not winning with this team

than giving Bill time. There's going to be haters for sure, but when Doug Peterson came on, we were like, did you pick Jacksonville because Trevor Lawrence? Yeah. Yes. Sean Payton with Denver, you know, he had a quarterback. You're not stupid.

Why would you go somewhere that doesn't? If you get the two, like, who is the quarterback? This guy doesn't. Let me go pick a team that has nobody and almost looks like a genius. What if our angle, after he picks to go to a bad place, it's like, yep, Bill's dumb. He could have picked a place with a good quarterback. He chose a bad quarterback. Bill has lost his fastball that is but there's like ways you can hate yeah

doug peterson also spent 130 million dollars in the first two days of free agent christian kirk yeah they can't they don't they can't do that with the chargers yeah the chargers fascinating dynamic down there too because what a massachusetts tax is probably insane too huh uh yeah not to la but yeah that's like shohei otani's deal the way they set that thing up genius they set that thing up for like let can i move to somewhere other than california to get a lot of this money so that california doesn't get 350 million dollars and then how about the lakers think about the day that california had if they were just going to do a standard baseball contract,

they would have made $350 million in taxes off of Shohei's deal. And then they would have got $250,000 from every Lakers player after they won the tournament. I actually thought of that when they were like, big day for LA. They got Shohei Otani and then LeBron. And I'm like, look how much money California just made off of all these bonuses and contracts due to their state taxes. That is certainly something to think about.

But if Bill Belichick goes to L.A., he's the king of the town. Oh, my God. He'll be wearing that suit that he wore on game day. Did you see how lean he looked? Do you know how often he'd be walking out of buildings with his shirt off because of the weather out there? Are you kidding me? He might surf. Yeah.

He might surf to practice. His boat looked great in the L.A. Oh, the seven rings or whatever? Oh, yeah. L.A. doesn't have a harbor. You would have to do a boat parade. Brady did it. Brady did it.

Brady went to Tampa. They had great receivers. You know, he had a good defense. Went to nice weather. Why not go win one and have a boat parade? Why not be a charger? Yeah, well, especially because the ownership, too. We talk about ownership being in line with everything.

It's not like their family hates each other and they've had a feud over the past five years. It's more so just all flowers over there. Let's move away from that particular subject because I'm not sure we know anything about it. There was a time, though, where it was being reported. This is not us making this up. No.

These are things that were reported. Now, they have not gone to be. One of the members of the Spaniards family was trying to force the rest of the family to sell the team. No. These are things that were reported. Now, they have not gone to be... One of the members of the Spanx family was trying to force the rest of the family to sell the team. Correct. That happened within the last couple years. Do you remember that, AJ? Oh, yeah. There does not... We definitely know that there's not a whole lot of unity up top with the charges, it seems like,

right? Hold on. I think the brothers are, right? Yeah, it was the sister. The sister, not that big of a fan of everything they got going on. And they don't have the crazy amount of cash that a lot of these owners have, right? Well, it's the sister. The sister, not that big of a fan of everything. And they don't have the crazy amount of cash that a lot of these owners have, right? Well, that's what she was. That was in that same report. Hey, we're broke. Let's sell. We don't have...

I feel like that's happening a lot. Now we're kind of getting almost into a generation where there's a lot of second or third generation NFL owners now. There's a lot of family feuds that seem to be going on where some kids really want to sell. Some kids want to be, make it profitable so that they have cash. Other ones really want to hold on and keep the legacy going. I feel like we're kind of getting that with a few organizations. You know what? It's similar to farms, you know,

in America that is, uh, I don't want to say it's a younger generation doesn't necessarily want to do the same stuff as the older generations, but like with teams teams it's the same thing. Do we want to just cash out from this? Because it's enough money for us all just to live. Or do we want to put the work in and do this? Farms, same exact thing I guess it's happening. It's a day of shame. We do need to farm. My roommate in college, farmer right now.

Shoot farmer. I'm not. He's working? Yeah, he's out there. I told him i'm just gonna start facetiming him randomly just so that i could show the world of what like people are doing right now just so like people what's he what's he farming he got uh we got beans why i think we got some corn why we used to we used to be a big time chicken farm but we went away from the chicken farms because too small of an operation to really have any

say. Big enough to make a living. They've been a chicken farm, I think, 30 years or something like that. Had to shut down the stalls. They got beef. Get him on the horn. Get him on the horn. He's out in the middle of no... What is it? Are we in harvest right now? Has Bill offered on his land yet? Past harvest. So, here's

the thing. I think he is... Winter prep. his dad's still working, but like, he will certainly get offered a lot of money for his, as soon as, you know what I mean? And it's like,

this dude is one of the smartest guys that's ever been around. Great football player. And he's out in the middle of nowhere, West Virginia. Rarely has service. And he's living like he's an Amishman.

That's what he, every single day of his life. That's right. He showed up in that flannel and those boots. Loved it. Loved everything about it. What do you got to do? Well, I'm going to wake up when the roosters start crowing tomorrow morning.

I'm going to go feed the cat. How do we feel about it? Would you, would you, would you be mad at him for selling or would you say it was good? Like, is it bad that a big, if a big company came in and bought it, how do we feel about it? He's not selling. He, yeah, he, the reason why he is, I think he's taking a pretty big stand on the whole. he's not selling he yeah he the reason why he is i think he's taking a pretty big stand on the whole we're not selling no way yeah everything i know about farming and the state of situations there come through his eyes because he's like literally living it all

and i think a lot of people take the easy way out of just selling and then who knows what it becomes and what it's doing who's buying it and what the food becomes in the future. He legitimately enjoys it, too, doesn't he? It's not like it's like, you know. Just way of life. Yeah, exactly. It's awesome. He and I, polar opposite livings, you know, because we were just an internet show. And then he's Amish person.

Off the internet, yeah. Yeah, and we, it's a beautiful thing. But you're right about teams. Next generation. Speaking of next generation, this Miami Dolphins team is in the next generation right now. And they're potentially in a situation where it's all crumbling down from the outside looking in. Omar Kelly reported that there was a players-only meeting. Now, he was accurate in this particular statement, but this is standard operating procedure in Miami, I believe.

Now, when you think about this Miami team, obviously you think offense. I believe in Now, when you think about this Miami team, obviously you think offense. I believe in them completely. But the defense with Vic Fangio is going to have to keep growing and keep going. But they need to quit cheating. Darius has a question for you. They did something on Monday night that we used to do in New

England, that late defensive shift. We used to do some short yardage situations, but they got a penalty call for it. No penalties, but it's a tough conversation. What are your thoughts on that, and did you guys used to do that in Houston? I do have thoughts on this. When I saw it live, I was very perplexed. You are allowed, like the ref, I believe he described it as a sudden movement or too sudden of a movement.

You're allowed to move. You can move as fast as you want. You can move as long as you don't cross the line. You can move in any direction you want. The only thing that I can think they might have done which the ref that called that i don't like you can't simulate the snap count with your voice so you can't say like set hot you can't say go you're not allowed to do that that's the only thing that i can see that may have got them this call but the ref up top gives a false start call the players are all hanging their heads like they know they're moving back and it's it's very similar to the the steelers uh with the snapper

when the snapper moves everybody on the field knew that was on the defense even the guy who did it he knew it was on him like if this this was one of these things in this dolphins game where you're allowed to shift and the entire point of the shift is to get them to jump off sides. And it worked perfectly, and instead it got called on them, and now five yards closer to the goal line, and yeah, hand the ball to Derrick Henry. It's going in the end zone 100% of the time. So I think it was weird as a defensive lineman. I don't know what they did wrong unless they simulated the snap count.

Yeah, Derrick Henry's a defensive lineman, and normally if they do simulate the snap count, the ref will say that during the announcement. To your point, he said something about the sudden movement. We have the call right here. Yeah. No, no, you're right. Delay game defense, number 92, for a blocked movement. Unbelievable.

That penalty to court, half the distance to a goal, and still a second half. You can move as abruptly as you want. Think about a blitzing linebackers running up to the line and stopping like that's an abrupt movement you can do anything you want as long as you don't cross the line like what and this wasn't even abrupt that's not even close to abrupt that's a standard shift i'm getting more and more mad the more times i see yeah yeah but the the ref saying that it was the abrupt movement there has to be some sort of something somewhere in the rulebook for them to say that, or this is just another situation of complete ineptitude from the refs?

Is that what we're thinking? I mean, very well, I don't know. I've never in my life, I've played defensive line my entire career, I've never once seen a abrupt movement called. Maybe it's in the rulebook in some obscure way. I mean, maybe it also goes the rule book in some obscure way i mean maybe it also goes kind of along with the chief's play where they're calling a play at the end of the game that they would never call at any other point in the entire game um i don't know it's interesting

it certainly is interesting it certainly is interesting a lot of interesting shit going on what's the call usually like if they yelled set for them to know to delay the game uh so for the so i'll say this we had calls where you do say you do simulate it and you just hope they don't catch you like we had it was called uh cheater uh what was it called it was called uh yeah it was called like hertz or something moving company what's a moving company mayfair penske we call it penske penske uh so so on penske somebody would say, move. And all of us would move at one time. And a lot of times that shit would work.

And you get a move off sides and you just hope the ref didn't hear you say move. What's wrong with it? That's football. A backer can come down and yell move, though. I know backers, I would have to come down and yell move if we're shifting. And smack an ass. And smack an ass. And the crazy part about that

is they did not move fast. That was like a very slow, regular movement. It was a basic shift. If you sat there and you kind of lunged in, you're in a four-point change, and you lunged a little bit, almost forward, I could see that being abrupt.

That was my move. So I would be in a three-point with my right hand down, and then then i would read the last second just switch to my left hand down and that would get guys to jump all the time i got the buccaneers to do it three times on one drive one time it was i was literally looking at a guy like dude figure it out i'm doing the same thing every time so yes like i agree as long as you don't cross the line you're supposed to be good they do that on field goals, too. You'll see longer field goals, they'll shift everybody on the D-line, try to get a five-yard penalty on the offensive line.

And to be honest, watching it, I don't know how the O-linemen don't jump. Because when it's like four guys very close to each other and at the same exact time coordinated, they all fly to their one side. It's hard not to just react on movement. And it's like a good play. It's a good move. But once again, we would like some clarity on it all. Was there a simulated snap count?

And if there was, why wasn't that said by the ref afterwards, which is standard operating procedure? Normally they'll say fake cadence or something like that to kind of clear it all up. The NFL, interesting times right now conman has a question for you jj yeah jj interesting times also with the cleveland brons now we all know how great of a quarterback joe flacco is yeah when you watch footsteps flacco does it give you that thought like shit if he can do it i can do it i might i might go back and play right now i will say watching his interview after the game was really cool like seeing how If he can do it, I can do it. I might as well go back and play right now.

I will say watching his interview after the game was really cool. Like seeing how much it means to him and how special it is and how obviously playing well, but just knowing that he still feels like that kid out there, that he still enjoys it. I mean, he's playing at an unbelievably high level. Like watching him play makes me wonder, like, what are all these other teams doing that some of the quarterback play play we're seeing around the league like how come nobody was giving this guy a shot like he's playing very good football at the moment and yeah after the game it was

definitely cool to see him appreciate it so much and i think that's that is really cool how about how he's playing though jj like do you watch him i know he kind of just blew by the whole yeah we're not coming back to play or whatever, but he's an old boy. He is an old boy. Very old boy. He was ready the entire season. And then it wasn't until just three weeks ago he gets a phone call,

and all of a sudden, not just, hey, off the couch university, which is very real, he's leading this Browns team and spinning it. Like, not just like, hey, we'll have you throw it 10 times, 11 times. We don't know where you're at. Let's get you back into game shape. We're opening this thing up. We're flying around. We're playing the best we've played on the offensive side of the ball in some time. They have a lot of injuries, obviously,

the Cleveland Browns. It's been a tough season whenever it comes to the injury bug, but why not the Cleveland Browns with that defense? JJ, is that what you're thinking? We've all said all year long their defense is playing lights out. If their offense can kind of do what they need to do, that team certainly has it. I mean, if he continues to play the way he's playing right now, there's no reason. I don't think there's like – I think they're one of those teams that you definitely don't want to face them because it's always going to be extremely difficult to put points up on that defense.

And then if Flacco continues to play at this level, yeah, why can't they be good? Why can't they be successful? And I would imagine only with more and more reps as he gets back into it and continues to knock even more rust off, he's probably going to play even better. Although we have seen a couple situations this year where quarterbacks came in and lit it up in their first game or two and then kind of had regressions. I mean, Minnesota and Josh Dobbs obviously is the situation.

Yeah, we saw. We got a couple. Yeah, it's tough. The Pasternak was tough. That was a tough deal. It was tough. Flack is a Super Bowl MVP. Yeah, I agree. I think it's great. Also, I think I'm not 100% sure

of the rules of the practice squad situation, but couldn't somebody just scoop them up just to keep them off the Browns? Like if you were an opponent? Hey, you, AJ, D-Butt, myself, I think we all were very confused about the practice squad rules. We all felt the same way where it's like, yeah, got to go to the other team. It's like going through waivers almost. That's what I thought.

Yeah, it's not. I guess Joe Flacco can say, I don't want to go. You could have had me three weeks ago, four weeks ago. You said, no, this who brought me to the dance, I'm staying here. Allegedly that is the case. Now, they're going to have to figure out a deal with him over the next four weeks if they want to keep him going because Stefanski announces

he's the starter for the rest of the season and then the next day he's cut. It's like, what? What is going on? Is Cleveland doing Cleveland stuff again? You're saying we're not smarter than everybody else? We didn't have the brilliant idea that nobody else came up with the team. Why did we all feel that way, though?

Why did we all feel that way, I wonder? Because I think that's how it is. With most guys, that's how it is because they want to be on an active roster, so nobody ever says no to getting called up. It is funny to see he's going to start for the next three weeks. Next day, practice squad.

What the hell? I didn't do it. I didn't do it. I didn't do it. Run the tape. I didn't do it. Did you see yesterday too? Yeah, I did.

You son of a bitch. You had a simulated hard count. Not even one day. You got the K. I don't think I did. You got all the way to K. Normally you could stop at C. Still counts, but you did hold back.

It's like a check swing. Halfway over the hard play. I got a friendly up down the first baseline. What's the guy's name? Dick Wolf? What is it guy's name? Dick Wolf? What is it? Dick Buck? No, Dick Wolf.

Dick Good. Dick Wolf created a law and order. He's like this right here. Yeah. And then they're going to first baseline too. Like, well, maybe another judge. He's both hands. Yes, he did.

Two strikes. Yeah, yeah. What's your out? If you're an umpire, what's your. What's your out? If you're an umpire, what's your strike to be called out? Let me see it. I think I'm doing a full. Backpedal? Yeah, I'm out.

And then full. Fade away? Boom! Yeah, I have to do it. What was that movie? Old White Guy? Really funny. Yeah.

Old White Guy. Really funny. Naked Gun? Yeah. Was it? Oh, yeah. Naked Gun. Naked Gun, yeah.

I like to be a little person where a urinal is always on my toes. You know, those types of jokes throughout for two hours straight. Yep. Pretty much. I think O.J. Simpson's in it. Yes, he is. He was a good thespian. He was?

Yeah. In multiple facets. He was a good thespian. A good actor out there. Oh, yeah. He was a star in his biggest role, being a husband. Peace. AJ's pretty quiet for the OJ talk.

What's up, AJ? I didn't say the F word. Yeah, I didn't. We're talking about a movie. Ain't no dummy over here. We're talking about a movie right now. What are you talking about? Let's move along before.

I mean, JJ just swore all over ESPN. It's disgusting. I have it. Town Diggs has a. I mean, J.J. just swore all over ESPN. It's disgusting. Town Diggs has a question for you, J.J. Yeah, I had a follow-up on the Browns defense and why they're giving up over 30 on the road, and then I think 12 at home. Is that just who they play, or is there something to do with that? How come T.J. keeps getting kicked in the moth?

Is he all right? This fascinates me. This truly fascinates me. When I saw that stat for the first time, I was pretty – I mean, at home, there's certainly major advantages to playing into your hand as a defender. You've got the crowd behind you. The offense generally has to want a silent count.

You can jump the snap, things of that nature. On the road, you know, you don't have that per se, but it definitely shouldn't be a 30-point swing or whatever it is that they have. And the other thing that people always say is defense travels. Like, bring your defense with you. You got to have a defense when it comes playoff time, all those things. And it is – I honestly don't know what it could be to make it such a gigantic

swing from home to away. And then I don't know why TJ got kicked in the mouth. He was making a tackle and just got smoked right in the face. So sometimes that happens. Do you know he had a concussion immediately? I know he didn't have one during the game. Oh, of course. Of course.

Sweet visor, though. He should keep the visor. Yeah, he should. Did you play with the visor? Did you play with the visor? I wish. I couldn't. I can't see through that. Same here, dude. I couldn't. I can't see through that.

Same here, dude. I couldn't see, couldn't breathe, couldn't live. I thought I was going to pass away when I put that visor on. I wanted to so bad because it looks awesome. When it gets steamed up, too, I don't know how guys handle that. That freaked me out. I'd get bummed out. No idea.

My periphery was getting... Those people are mentally just on a different level. It wasn't bad. That looks sweet. You had one, didn't you different level. It wasn't bad. That looks sweet. You had one, didn't you? I mean, it looks awesome. It looks awesome. What, he had sensitivity to light?

Is that what was going on here? What did he... Nah, I don't think he wanted to get poked in the eye. He didn't want to get poked in the eye. Oh, he got kneed in the mouth already. Yep. See you, ESPN. Great to have you.

Good day. Too early? Too early? Too early? Too early? Too early? Way too early? I heard the music. Bye, ESPN. Love you.

One more time. See you, ESPN. Nice. Let's go. I think it got in. It was either right. It was right out or it was right out. Pretty good.

I'll give you one. So I was talking to him about, I mean, you know, he's in the protocol now. That's public knowledge. For what? For what? For what? For concussion. Oh, no.

The day after. I mean, it's later. I mean, that's public knowledge. Is that breaking? So you have to go through the protocol and you have to go through all the questions and everything. I'm talking to him and you have a baseline that you do before the season like so that's supposed to be when you're all good and everything you do the baseline test and then you compare your concussion test to it he called me the other day he's like all my tests now are better than my

baseline tests i was like oh my god man so he was he had a bad day on the field get him back to practice it's interesting because those questions are fascinating like that word has come up a lot whenever we're talking about it it's because this particular league is so damn fascinating like this baseline test getting introduced during my time i think in the nfl was not always there this baseline test became the answer remember it's like a like a 30-minute thing. Oh, yeah. Guys are supposed to focus on this. They're like, hey, need you to really focus. This is going to save

your life now. We also need 35 minutes of your day here going in here and doing this. It's like, okay. Yeah, that'll happen. And obviously, in theory, this makes sense. In theory, this is the real thing once again dealing with humans mostly in training camp okay going through a lot of stuff i don't know if that baseline thing

is the right answer you know i don't know i don't know if that's the right answer just i don't want to be the bearer of bad news like you you've done it before right obviously so i was asked because i mean i'm fascinated i've never been in the protocol so i want to know all the stuff and everything you have to do that same test again to see compared to your baseline, but apparently then you also have to do a bunch of pen and paper written tests. I love my brother, Dev, but

pen and paper written tests is not the strongest suit. It's fascinating to hear about how it all goes. I was asking him, give me some of the questions. Some of the stuff you got to remember, they do the numbers thing where it's like 5, 7, 4, 7, 5, 9. You got to try and write it back down.

Then it gets longer and longer. I don't mess you up. That'll mess you up. 5, 7, 4, 7, 5, 9. Why'd you pick those numbers right there? That was awesome. I don't know. A J,

zero combined concussions? These two? You say you never went to the protocol? Look at those heads. Yeah, never went into the protocol. Oh. Oh! You son of a bitch.

What, you're going to stinker? That's just a factual statement. That's just a factual statement. You never helped you, right? These guys used to. No, I never had to go in. Yeah. What, are you had to go in. Yeah. What, are you going to volunteer if you don't feel bad?

Stinger. I'm not a doctor. I don't know. I'm not a doctor. Trainer. Stinger. Stinger. Got the wind knocked out of me.

I can say with certainty. I don't know. I don't know if I'm. I've already said too much. I'm an idiot. But, like, I asked him. I said, like, what did. I'm on the sideline. I don't know. I don't know if I'm... I've already said too much. I'm an idiot. But, like, I asked them. I said, like, what did... On the sideline, they asked me questions. So, yeah, I answered the questions on the sideline

and I passed it. So, like, what more do you want? You want, like, pass the question. Pass the test. Good. Hit. Stinger. Had your bell rung? You all right? What did you do? Do not say you got your bell rung. Do not say that. The light's real bright, right?

Jeez. Just a stinger. What are we doing? Oh, yeah. No, it's a wind knocked out. Yeah, that's what you got to do. I just got the wind knocked out of me. Golly.

You tell these people to turn it down. The stinger hurts more. Or you drop your mouth guard on the ground, and you look for your mouth guard for a couple seconds. You need an extra second or two down there. A stinger in my mouth guard on the ground and you you look for your mouth guard for a couple seconds just you need it you need an extra second or two down there stinger in my mouth guard i saw a guy dead on the field i saw a guy dead on a field yeah he had a stinger right dead on a field and then who was it he won't know who uh car first he saw me like points like hey hurry up get out here popped up shoulder then uh e wall great teammate

eric walled one of my favorite teammates of all time he reported me to the doctor the half time this guy was dead on the field how'd you guys not see it where's the unc can we please we have on no good old days did you play plays after oh yeah too many tries one of the things you get kind of you get irritated you remember the drive for uh, absolutely not. I just remember just irrationally just yelling at, you know. Anybody. Teammates. If you knew, though, D-Butt, don't you think if you knew to fake a stinger,

you were somewhat with it? You were okay. Okay. Yeah, but I was out for a good probably five seconds. I think that is, yeah, it was bad. He was dead body. Everybody kind of. What happens when you wake up, D-Butt, in that moment?

What is it? What is it? Don't remember. Yeah. He was dead body. Everybody kind of. What happens when you wake up, D-Bo, in that moment? What is it? What is it? Don't remember. Yeah. Don't remember. I think it was the last play. And then we went to the sideline, and then we had a two-minute drive,

like a minute and a half, maybe. I remember something like that. I remember watching it back a few days later. But it's just funny seeing yourself on film and not remembering being that. Well, it's not funny, but part of the game. That that well it's not funny but it's a weird feeling it's an odd feeling seeing my body do something that I will never have recollection of

that's wild the two scariest moments I've had I've had watching football neither involved me but one I had a teammate get knocked out on the sideline and he went out cold went into the fencing position and then when he came to he started fighting the doctors like he literally was so like in a state he started punching the doctors it was one of the scariest

scariest things i've ever seen then the other one i was watching the game there's the steelers and derek my brother went down on a punt got blocked in the back, and the punt return, his knee hit him in the forehead, and he went out cold with the fencing. And then TJ came out and, like, protected him. I was bawling, crying in my house. Like, I've never been more sad, scared in my life than when I saw that moment. I literally was just full-blown crying in my house. You think about the family members a lot whenever those things happen, you know,

because I think it was Robert Mathis or Reggie. Reggie Wayne posted a video on his ex-account, I think, and it was these highlights of those hits from back when you played and when you played and when you played at the beginning and what people used to do. And Reggie was like,

man, I don't know how we signed up for this. Think about family members just watching like a line, like AJ. Think about family members just watching like AJ. Think about AJ's family. Now, granted, they're from Ohio. So this is kind of just standard operating procedure. He's running his face directly in a fullback's face in the NFC North every week for like 10 years.

There's just every play. And then AJ is getting disgusted. If my family is worried about me getting knocked out every play, they need to have a little bit of respect for me. It's like, think about what these, you know what I mean? Like, think about what these families go through watching this shit. Hey, thank you to you guys that played those real positions. Legit.

Legit. I'm happy I didn't have to do that. Every time I'm A-Tech, I was sore for four fucking days. In that era, too. Yeah. It looks so much worse when you're watching. Everything. I think everybody will speak to it.

Like, when you are watching, it looks – I cringe now every hit, every move. But when you're playing, it doesn't literally bother you in the smallest bit. It is crazy how watching – and maybe it's the cameras, maybe it's the sound and those microphones they have. But it just seems – it bothers me so much more when I watch than when I'm actually playing. You and Bill Cowher are watching games right next each other what when he's bringing the donuts and everything how's that relationship yeah i love it man i love bill he's the best we we i love

watching games with him we sit next to each other um i pick his brain we talk about the old school days and he he's just a football guy through and through. I love that guy. We also do a little pick-em where we pick the games every week and just see who's better and who's not, and he's very, very, very good at it. And so he and I have some serious trash talk back and forth, and unfortunately I'm on the losing end of that trash talk right now. Yeah, he's a Ginzer. Yeah, that's how that's going to go, JJ.

Listen, you Wisconsin people, nice. I understand your, you know, shit-talking abilities, especially the Watt family. Dynamic. Sure. Bill Cowher is crafting Pittsburgh yinzer. I mean, he is. You know what I mean?

Through and through. He's the best, man. I love that guy. We were just about to randomly FaceTime him, but he has a flip phone. We can't. We'd have to send him a Zoom link. I'd have to get him a Zoom link.

We'd have to get in there. He's the green bubble in our damn. We have an NFL Today, our CBS show. We got 10 people in there. Bill's the green bubble, screwing it all up. Never going to change either. No. No chance.

Never. At all. Ty Schmidt has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, JJ. I saw on Sunday you quote tweeted the football czar Warren Sharp because he was basically like shitting on Zach Wilson, and you pretty much said like, yeah, you know, this guy's playing great. He'd go on to win AFC Player of the Week. But, you know, it's terrible conditions, wet field.

I think he was trying to make a play. He slipped or whatever. But that's not what I want to ask you about. It's Warren Sharp is also on the crusade of basically saying, listen, these hip drop tackles in the NFL are disgusting. Now, as a defensive player. Made up the term. Yeah, made up the term.

I don't think anyone really knows what a hip drop tackle is. We see it happen. Apparently, there's like 10 to 15 hip drop tackles every single week. But are we trending towards guys just not being able to tackle at all in the nfl because it's weird that like kind of anytime you hear like a player talk about it's like yeah that's bullshit that's not a real thing who no one knows what this guy's talking about but then like the competition committee is all is also like taking this into consideration they're like you know what he's. We do need to get rid of hip drop tackles.

So where is that trending? In five years, is it just going to be impossible to play defense in the NFL? Yeah, I have no idea. If you ask me to pull up videos and show you what a hip drop tackle was or if you ask me to demonstrate a hip drop tackle, I wouldn't be able to do it. I don't understand. Like, jeez, I'm flustered.

Like, I'm just angry about it. What, JJ? Hip drop tackle, you know what it is. How many more ways are we going to take away from defenders being able to do their jobs? And, like, with the fines we got running backs now that can't lower their shoulder to protect themselves, like, you can't to protect themselves. You can't tackle this way. You can't tackle that way.

If we are moving to flag football, let's just say it. Let's just come out and say it. Let's just do that. Let's just move it faster along. Let's not play this game of song and dance like, okay, we're going to take this out for the safety. We're going to take that out for the safety. But we're still going to play on Thursdays. We're going to play overseas on short sleep.

If we're going to do overseas on short sleep and bad. Like if we're going to do it, let's do it. And let's not like joke about it and lie about it and try and like make people think this or that. Like it does. I don't know, man. Like it's football. You're going to get the, you got to get the guy on the ground. If you don't, you're going to get yelled at. It's a violent game. It's always been a violent game. You know what you're getting into when you decide to play the game. Like, I don't know what you want like yeah does it is there a chance you're getting hurt yes that that's football like is a guy going to come across the line and chop my knees out from under me and that's going to be perfectly legal yeah guess what i could get hurt on that so if we're going to take this hip drop out and try and make defenders jobs a little bit harder maybe we stop having linemen wipe out

my kneecaps that'd be nice i would appreciate that if I didn't have my kneecap wiped out all the time, too. Quarterbacks don't get to have their knees touched, but defensive linemen do. There's just all sorts of stuff that I'm like, pick your poison. Are we going to make it safer or are we not? Whatever. Yeah, for who are we making it safe for and for who are we making it dangerous for? And the funny thing would be, I don't think anybody's running into a tackle. I might be wrong.

You got all-time leading tackler for Green Bay there, Ring of Honor member for tackling people for the Houston Texans, and guy who played safety. What? And nickel. What? I mean, corners aren't making many tackles, but you get it in there. Like, nobody's aiming to do the hip drop tackle.

Like, when they're running, it's like, you know what? No one knew what it was. Hip drop tackle. I never heard of this. What do you mean? It's not a thing. What are you talking about? It's not a thing. It never was a thing. It's never been taught. I've heard people say like, oh man, you can't be teaching

this. What is there to teach? It's someone trying to do whatever they can to get it down. It's not a specific technique. Yeah, but remember, when you watch videos of how to tackle, there's always that dummy there. You get your head out of the way. You wrap your arms. And then you run your feet.

Okay? So there's no reason ever. I've seen that video. That is how the dummy's tackled. Perfect. So there's no reason that you would ever have to potentially manipulate your body weight, which is what you're trying to do to get leverage to get the person on the ground, which is what you're tasked with doing in the sport. You know, it's like, it's just the way

the conversation has just become like, that's a hip drop tackler. As if somebody's just lining up like a suplex or something. It's not how it works at 20 miles an hour while people are flying around on it. It's wild. It's just a crazy conversation. It's people trying to make rules. They've never done it like that you've never done it before you have no idea what the hell you're talking about like oh man and then they bring in like uh i'm gonna say some things bring in what bring in what bring in some no because because like there's so then they point to former players and they're like well this guy's on the committee so he said and i'm like, all right.

The game's different, man. The game's different now. So JJ has some question marks about the people that are making some decisions. Love it. Who's on the committee? Yeah, who are we? Who's the exact person? I don't even know who decides those things.

I have no idea. So I'm not even talking about one person or another, but I know they're going to point to somebody and say, well, we asked this guy. And, okay, so that guy. Whatever. It was the competition. Same with the fines. We're like, well, it's run by a former. Okay, well, so that guy knows everything then.

All right, I guess we'll just listen to him. What about J.J. Wall? Pretty good football player. Game checks away from guys. Hey, by the way, saw this. Hey, kind of a victory lap. You should be. Filled lap. You should build it. You should be taking one. Build it.

You should. Yeah. Got that game. And then and then what's his name? Brees Hall. The same day just gets smoked for a full game check for a perfectly routine running back play. So win one, lose one. Yeah, you're sticking

your finger in the holes in the boat and then one's popping up on another side. So we're going to continue bringing tension to this, though, because I think it's a good thing. When loud with criticism also must be loud with credit. Ooh, very, very admirable and noble of you, JJ. Touché for the appeal process working properly and this ridiculous fine being completely rescinded. Players, always appeal your fine.

Amen. Even though they will tell you not to because your team will they're not allowed to but they you know they're humans they could potentially hold against you upon appeal tom pelissero reported the nfl has rescinded jaylen warren's fine from this play per his agents david canter and as it was like 48 000 or something for a young player and a game check that's a lot of money obviously anybody on earth understands that that is a lot of money and it was a very normal play that they just kind of were picking through film but this boom bang this almost like an ai is finding when people's helmets like drop and not taking into consideration the moment or

the situation at all and it's been happening a lot this year this tells me though that they understand that this may be getting out of control. Is that what you're seeing as well, JJ? That's what I'm hoping. That's what I'm hoping. I also like people that don't appeal their fines. I don't know what you're doing. Like you appeal no matter what. If you're 100 percent wrong, appeal it. Like at least take a shot. I mean, the ones we all know, the uniform fines, like if you're wearing pink shoes, you're going to get a fine. That's just going to happen every single time sure you should still appeal it maybe maybe you win but like those are the ones where people people tweet me and they'll be like hey talk about this this guy got fined just for wearing the different color shoes and i'm like

well that's i mean that is pretty clearly defined like you knew that was going to happen like that's you said i'm going to pay five grand to wear pink shoes for this game. That's just what you told yourself. Yeah, I agree. There's levels to this. It's like, are things stupid that we don't agree with? Yes. But also, is there things that maybe the NFL abuses? Yes.

And this whole finding of random standard plays that has been happening only this year? Is this just this year? Feels like a D-butt, doesn't it? Some bigger ones this year, but it's always been going on. I had a clean hit with Thielen. Big hit, and I think it's just kind of the refs, once they see a big contact,

their intention is to throw the flag, penalize it. Sometimes you can get that fine later, sometimes not, but like JJ said, always appeal it. I didn't get mine back, but always appeal it. I did get something back for Tenant Advisor. Oh, nice. And then I got away with it. I didn't get mine back, but always appeal it. I did get something back for a tenant advisor. Oh, nice. And then I got away with it.

Tenant advisor is a good one. You take the fine for that. That looks cool. You take that fine. He looks cool. He can deal with it, too. Whenever you guys are all talking about not being able to deal with it, Deebo was like, we can deal with it.

Please. I just told him it was clear. I was like, look, I'm just really dark-skinned. So it just came across. That was your? Oh, yeah, legit. And then Merton Hanks. Merton Hanks came in the came across. That was your. Oh yeah. Legit. And then Merton Hanks, Merton Hanks came in the locker.

That was your defense. Came in the locker. He said, look, I'm going to come to the locker room. You show me the visor before the game in Frogden. We used to do pregame. I would go out with a clear one,

come in and swap it out, show them the clear one. And that was good for like the rest of my career. Hey, good. That's good for you. You got to do what you got to do. Good for you. What a move holy hell you know because you need a

full doctor's note don't you agree like a full doctor's situation to get a tinnitus this is clear what are you talking about what do you mean are you guys racist oh wow whoa why is that why why is that why can't we have two advisors because it looks sweet everybody would wear them you can't see your eyes if you get knocked out. Exactly. That's it? Yeah. You've got to be able to check your eyes out if they can't take your helmet off.

That sounds like just making up an excuse to utilize your handstand. Yeah, because they can take the face mask off like Mason Rudolph's helmet. They did that one time. That one time? Yeah. All right. That was awesome. We have some breaking news.

A.Q. Shipley has sent us a photo from a war camp. Wow. Whoa! Is he in public? What's going on? Is there a parking lot back here? Is that guy behind him an

What is going on? Hey, bud, stay safe down there. And everybody else around that man right now, stay safe down there. He's in war camp right now. He's literally in war camp. Look at the gloves. Bunch of Navy SEALs and him and Jack Osborne. Yep.

Poor AQ, dude. Now that Rom got $550, $600 million, he's never going to get a chance to get in that group with Jay. Owns Bern. How was the combo? How'd the combo go last week? Did you see it? Did you watch it? He was good. No, he was good. Yeah, he was good.

He doesn't... Are you sad that he moved to a nicer neighborhood now? Yeah. Moving on up. Can't be friends anymore. New zip code. I'm fascinated to see what he purchases. I'm very much looking forward to seeing the purchases. That's for sure. 550, right, was the number we were trying to... I was trying to see what he purchases. I'm very much looking forward to seeing the purchases. That's for sure.

550, right, was the number? I was trying to read his face. You tried hard. You tried hard. I mean, good effort. Or one of the numbers correct. 50, maybe? I mean, I haven't seen them all.

I haven't seen them all. It's a lot of money. It's got a lot of years. How many years is the deal? I'd like to know that too. Yeah, JJ, you don't have to tell us, but you do know all the information? 20? 8? Lifetime?

Maybe, I don't know. For as long as you can swing club? It's a team name. That's why AQ's doing all this. What is a team name? He's going to be security. Bingo. I know. I can't say. I can't say.

Are you a part of the team naming group? Mm-hmm. I've had input. Okay, how many people are in that group? AQ? AQ's a war camp right now. Yeah. He might come back with some ideas. You know what I mean?

Or also, should we FaceTime Rom right now and then we could also be a part of the... We could be a part of the entire... He said last time he was on that he wanted to be on with JJ. He did say that. Yeah, he did. He said, I like JJ. He did. He asked me if I

wanted to come on, but I thought that was his day. I felt like it was proper to be... It's his day to celebrate. He was on fox news i think thursday night yep then he was on with us the next day that's the same thing that happened with uh who was on trump aj's two favorite shows is it kornacki uh it is i believe well yes more of an internet. There's a lot of other outlets now. What are you? What kind of sage are you burning over there?

We got a lot of sage going on. Cigar sage. Who was on MSNBC? Are those books real? I gotta know this. I need every one of them, man. Don't be a fucking mark. Come on, brother.

I'll really let it fly today. man. Everyone. JJ, don't be a fucking mark. Come on, brother. Come on. I'll really let it fly today. I mean, I'm probably going to check my Twitter after this and somebody from the NFL is going to be very angry at me, so I'm trying to just turn it back into fun. I'm going to get texts. Dr. Drew? Was it Dr. Drew? That was more recent than that.

It was very recent. Dr. Drew, yeah. Dr. Drew was on the program during COVID. That ended up being quite a controversy. Thank you for reading my PhDs. People don't believe I'm a real dog. That's how I intro Dr. Drew, by the way, because Dr. Drew was just getting killed. Killed. Killed on the internet for everything he said, you know?

Like, oh, the sex doctor's telling us what we need to do during COVID, all right? So when he came on our show, I did a little research on all the PhDs he has. Yeah. And I listed them off before we introed him. And he was like, thank you so much for letting people know that I'm an actual doctor. Turns out my time on MTV might have kind of discredited it a little bit. He was right. He was random. He was awesome. And he was right. Somebody said they were on

CNBC and then on our show with Greg Sankey. Yeah, he was on CNBC, I think, and then he was on our show within 24 hours or whatever. And he was like, wow, that's quite range or whatever. John Rohn had a similar situation, you know, because those questions are coming

from much different angles. When you're trying to save the world and refusing to ever give up on that and listen to anything anybody on the other side has to say, that's going to be a different angle, I think, for a conversation than us dumbasses just trying to figure out how much money it is so we can find out what athletes are getting paid in golf right now.

While we're on that, can we book the repeat performance? Was Kornacki, do we have Kornacki the day after the presidential election? Can we get him booked again for the next day? So Kornacki has now infiltrated football. He was back on Sunday. Yes, this is what he was. He was back the last couple Sundays.

Playoff time. He's a big playoff. What's that? Are those real? Yeah. Those are massive. They're big books. They're a big playoff. What's that? Are those real? Yeah. Yeah, so. Those are massive. They're big books. Big brain.

You go to a big library, you get big books for big brains. Big checks for those big books. What's your favorite one? This one's the one. This one right here. Don't pull it out because you don't want to ruin the. No, no, no. It looks too nice.

Don't touch them. Don't touch them. First edition. Is Saban leaving? You guys got any insight? Sorry, what? What? Excuse me? Where? I don't know. I was reading on the internet. Saban, there's a very, very deep

Alabama insider. I was just reading the internet. I know. I don't believe everything I hear. That's why I'm asking. Where's he going? Is it Paul Assassin? I don't know. I was asking you guys. You guys are best friends. Paul Assassin. They've been trying to spin that ever since he came on the show. Yeah, our show has certainly heightened the chatter about, like, you think Old Saban would be doing a show every single week like Maxi's show.

Well, he has been doing a radio show pretty much every week for, like, the last 10 years. So, yeah. You see him smiling and laughing on that show, though? He's not as intense as he once was. He's definitely – and, of course, he's near, I mean, he's on a back nine for sure. We all understand that with his entire career. What did you read, though?

This is brand new news to me. I did not read it. I don't know. It was just on Twitter. It said, it was like, I mean, yeah, whatever. It was on like the deep message boards, and they were like, this guy's been writing about a bunch of stuff in the past, which I'm assuming means private jet tracking.

And so it said Saban's on his way out for a $30 million ESPN contract. So I figured, who better to ask than the people on ESPN with $30 million contracts of their own that also happen to talk to Saban every week. So I'm doing the people's work on X. Okay. Well, I'll tell you what. I appreciate good journalism, you know, and trying to guess a deal's worth, you know.

Absolutely. And that whole thing. Welcome to the club. There's been a lot of people doing that, speaking matter of fact as opposed to asking questions. That's real, though? I don't know. That's a real thing.

I have no idea. I mean, I also saw him. He had a triple styrofoam cup in his Ferrari. So I don't know. I have no idea. I also saw him. He had a triple styrofoam cup in his Ferrari. I don't know. It was pretty badass. And in the side pocket. About 15 bags of Redman. Excuse me.

America's best. Thank you. That's not what it's called. That was what it was named. That's not what it's called That was what it was named That's not what it's called If you're a chaw guy you'll never say America's best It's Redman period sorry You know it just is what it is

That's twice today It is twice today Yeah you with the F buttons all over ESPN Breaking news Highly respected sources have confirmed To MPG message board geniuses. Okay. Sweet.

Look at that. Nick Saban will announce his retirement. That's my source, guys. MBG, message board geniuses. Hey, congrats to MBG. This is UGA Sports. It's a Georgia website. Don't get into the plane tracking business.

Look what happened to John Morales. Did you see Georgia fans are trying to cancel all flights from Georgia to Nebraska, though? Because Ray Olin? That was hilarious. Hey, that was a good question for Bay Q. It's Matt Rule. Did you listen to that yesterday at all, JJ? Did you get to see any of it?

Matt Rule was legit on our show. He was good. I thought he was really good yesterday. He was really good. He was really good. He is good. He seems to be good. I mean, I didn't get to see all of that, but I have seen his pregame speeches.

They are phenomenal. Those were asked about, and he said those aren't prepared. It's like in the moment how you feel. Which is nuts because some of them really, like obviously that one that got popped up was three minutes. Every single one of them gets you jacked up. That guy loves coaching ball, dude. Fucking loves coaching ball.

Not thought about beforehand at all. No, I think he said it's not like scripted. Like basically he has to think of concepts. For sure. Like throughout not like scripted like basically he was has to think of concepts for sure like throughout the day i'd assume you would have to think of concepts you come across something you see it you're like that's a good little angle that's a good angle right there i could potentially use yeah like the one we showed was for the breast cancer awareness yeah oh that one yeah i mean awesome and if you if you don't go out there and play play your ass off after that, you suck.

He said that that was to honor, you know, his mom, I think, his wife's mom and everybody else. Like he really from the heart there. I think he's building something special out there in Nebraska. He sold my ass yesterday. Yeah, scary. I'd like to, man. Nebraska, when Nebraska's good, it's cool.

Like, you know, you kind of want those programs to be great. I mean, obviously they're in the Big Ten, so I don't want to be that good. I mean, I think kind of want those programs to be great. I mean, obviously, they're in the Big Ten, so I don't want to be that good. I mean, I think we beat them every single time so far. But I do want Nebraska. Amen, brother. That's how Ty was operating yesterday, too. I was like, Ty, I think Nebraska, that was a cool thing.

Ty goes, cool, yeah, yeah. I used to love, I mean, I watched their tunnel walks from back in the day. Nebraska is a cool program, man. It is just a cool old-school program. I just don't – I don't know in today's day and age without, obviously, paying just an exorbitant amount of money. I don't know how you get kids to Nebraska when their options are, you know, some of these other – that's just an honest fact. You don't know about Nebraska.

Well, how come Wisconsin keeps bringing in transfer quarterbacks? It stinks. Oh, how come Wisconsin keeps bringing in transfer quarterbacks? It stinks. Oh, jeez. I mean, we got two great lakes. We have a beautiful terrace with delicious beer. We have a phenomenal campus. Fickle. Figure it out, fickle.

Fickle's a dog. We have a bunch of great stuff. Just give it some time. I mean, I've said it already before. I'm not overly excited to be playing the Heisman Trophy winner in the number 13 team in the country on January 1st. Looking forward to the opportunity.

Hopefully we really rise to the occasion and step up to it, but certainly a tall task there. I don't know how we got matched up with number 13. I will say that. We are not ranked. We don't have a ranking. We got number 13. That's one of a ranking, and we got number 13. That's one of the most Wisconsin-sounding things I've heard.

Looking forward to the opportunity. So classic Midwestern, like everything's good. He's got about 65 touchdowns on the year. It's a Big Ten show. A lot of Big Ten on this particular program hell yeah bro juice a lot of big 10 it looks very different i i have a question uh i know the rule maybe we've talked about it before i know that the stipulation with the contract before the season don't believe it was met what are they doing at offensive coordinator now yeah yeah that shit canned

him weeks ago he's done at the end of the season listen Listen to this, J.D. For sure? That's over? Yeah. The AD made the decision. Listen to this, though. After it came out, the AD came out, right? Yeah, interim AD. I think she is the AD now. She came out and said that he will no longer be with the Iowa Hawkeyes after this season. Brian Ferencz, the offense coordinator who led the worst offense in football

back-to-back-to-back years in college football. He protested the decision, wouldn't wear any Iowa Hawkeye logos on his stuff on the sideline. Just all black shirts. He's, I'm getting fucked. This guy led the worst. Merchant, I guarantee that just plummeted merchandise sales. People said, if he's not wearing it, I'm not wearing it. Yeah, definitely.

Take a stand. Good job. Take a stand. Really, I mean, way to step up it. Yeah, definitely. Take a stand. Good job. I mean, way to step up to the man. You know? Just that guy, though. Maybe he put the ball in the end zone once. Bingo! Just getting upset about that. With how it looks with his dad's the head coach

and how bad it's been. Any other Big Ten school where that happens, that respects its football team. You have one year like that, let alone multiple years. You got out-punted. You got out-punted. More punts, more punt yards and passing yards and rushing yards.

Then all yards. Well, Torrey Taylor's got Warwater. Well, that's the thing. They went to... In those three years, they went to fucking two Big Ten championships. I know. It's crazy. What could they have Like, what could they have done? Like, what could they have done? If their defense is shutting people out, if you're a punter,

is there any better place to go than Iowa? I mean, there is no better place to go than Iowa if you're a punter. If you're good, yeah, for sure. But could you imagine if they had a bad punter? Like, Torrey Taylor legitimately was a game changer for that Iowa Hawkeyes team. Absolutely. If he's a bad punter. Oh, boy. It's a different game.

He wins five games, five, six games probably. Hey, Torrey, hell of a career over in Iowa. Iowa also had the most first-team All-Americans of any team in the country this year. No big deal. A lot of offensive linemen? A lot of offensive linemen? None. He couldn't get a first down.

You think your offensive line is going to win? No. No offense. How? Who was it? Hunter, corner, linebacker. At a corner. Cooper Jean. Actually, they're saying Texans might draft him in the first round next year. A lot of mocks of him going to Houston.

Wow. They're saying his NFL comp is Jason Sehorne. You kidding me? That'd be crazy. That'd be crazy if he could perform at that level. You know who they're saying his NFL comp is? Jason Seahorn. You kidding me? Shocking. That'd be crazy. That would be crazy if he could perform at that level. That's what they're saying his comp is. Yeah, that's right. Jason Seahorn. You heard this, JJ?

Do they pipe in music to Iowa Stadium? Absolutely not, brother. You've played there. You know how fucking loud it is at Kinnick? Yeah, that's why I'm asking. It's so loud. That place is loud as hell. No, it's because people are tailgating

at fucking 3 in the morning and everyone's blacked out by the time kickoff's over. And they're hopping on that train. Oh yeah, Hawkeye Express. Hey, I love Iowa Hawkeye football. I'm very happy that they're going to have a new offensive coordinator going for it. St. Scott Frost, maybe. That's who they're targeting. That worked out in Nebraska. The head coach, though.

Offensive coordinator at Oregon. He was and at U.S. Nebraska guy? Isn't Iowa-Nebraska a pretty big rivalry? You're just going to welcome in one of the... No, Nebraska wants to act like it's a pretty big rivalry, but it's not. Matt Ruhle was on the show yesterday. He was great.

He was. I'm not holding any ill will towards Matt Ruhle. I'm just saying. Play for something? Play for an ax or something? No, it's the fucking Heroes Trophy. AJ, okay? Every Black Friday, day after Thanksgiving,

everyone watches. Everyone in the country. Coach Rule's got his eye on that Heroes trophy. He does. When does Mel Kiper season start? I can't wait for that again. That's one of my favorite things about this show. I love Mel Kiper season start? I can't wait for that again. That's one of my favorite things about this show. I love Mel Kiper.

I actually thought of that like three days ago. I was like, oh, shit, I can't get a haircut until April now. That scene last year, I can't remember exactly what it was. That is one of the funniest things I have ever seen on the Internet in my life. When you lost your shit. When you lost it. What When you lost... What was it, dude? Oh, what was it? The microphone did not work.

The Glazer Mel in Tampa. It's hard to imagine that being passed. Not to mention the last one two years ago. It was the four screen of Sirianni, Glazer, Mel. This year there is quite a few more opportunities in that entire,

you know what I mean, with our new relationships. There is a lot more opportunity for that entire thing. There's a chance, you know, we had two lose. Yeah. Think about it. Think about it. about it that would be awesome just

what cause his mind always oh yeah and then you just right in return oh yeah that thing might turn into a you guys might actually

combust into a fire yeah explode I'd cut him off so many times so many times won't even let him get a word in he's gonna be so pissed he will hate you So many times. So many times. I won't even let him get a word in. He's going to be so pissed. He will hate you.

Like bum fights. Yeah. Like the bum fights. Yeah. Dr. Phil. Yeah. You think Ryan Day will call in? You think he'll call in?

How do you feel about Kyle McCord transferring out of Ohio State after going almost 11? Or did he go 11-0? 11-1. Got beat by Michigan. Yeah, but that was the 12th game, right? Yeah. So he won 11-0. Yep.

And then, you know, driving, driving in Michigan, you know, and then see you later. That's a tough – college football in general right now is really tough, man. I mean, I can't speak too much without being a hypocrite because I was a transfer myself. But, like, the world today of the expectation level the lack of opportunity to give kids time to develop the um the fact that like you just have to be good right away otherwise we're moving on and we're getting the next guy like that's a it's a tough environment to be in as a kid and i feel bad for some of the kids who are just constantly searching for the opportunity to prove themselves in play without actually being developed coached

built up in the strength room like it's just a different world it really is a different world and it is tough yeah it is a whole new generation guys are getting paid i think the ncaa something big just happened something big just happened i was reading and this involves a west virginia uh basketball player. Raekwon Battle, I believe is his name. Now, I've heard of the story and the situation going on with him and the NCAA, but I have no idea the ins and outs of it. I was going to try to learn more about it as it all kind of was being reported about going forward.

So he transferred, I think, the same thing as like tez walker situation okay where he ended up transferring and the ncaa will not allow him to play and i think it was for mental health reasons was why one of the transfers took place and what the ncaa says versus what they're actually doing i think they were you know screwing over another student athlete is basically the way i was reading and it was a west virginia basketball player and i guess this kid is awesome kid like everybody that has basically spoken up about him is like, hey, this is a good kid. Like, we need to take care of him. This is what we're here for, is to take care of this and also let him play, let him live out his dreams.

He's a great basketball player. Let's do this all. The NCAA, I guess some judge has ruled that there's like a 14-day juncture where they are not allowed to rule on their transfer rules or something like that. It literally just got sent into the group text here. And I know this has been kind of cooking a little bit, but it's from Mitt Winter at Winter Sports Law. He tweets that TRO has been granted.

NCAA total restraining order has been granted. The NCAA can't enforce its transfer waiver rules. It isn't in fact for 14 days. That's a huge ruling. Okay, so that is for this West Virginia basketball player. So for 14 days they can't utilize the punishment that they

have been handing down to this. I don't understand. I don't understand any of it. We got kids playing on their like and eighth years. But do our rules, what happened to those rules? I thought you got to play for four years. What are we doing here? Yeah, remember your clock starts as soon as you enroll in college

and you have five years to complete four years of sport eligibility with a red shirt, and then there was a gray shirt, then there was a blue shirt, then there was a COVID covid year so now there's guys that are playing football and stuff for like the time you could become a doctor yeah in college right because of it all but i guess the rules stay and there's kids coming in behind that could be playing that are not because we got the quarterback on his eighth year and like okay like you get four years man like however however you got to do it whether it takes five because of your red shirt or not like you get five years to get four years, man. However you got to do it, whether it takes five because of your red shirt or not, you get five years to get four years of playing in.

That's it. Then you move on, and if you weren't good enough to go pro, then you go figure something else out. I don't know what we're doing here. Okay, I did not know this was a thing. This is a thing, it sounds like. You've thought about this. You do not like this.

I haven't thought about it enough to speak overly knowledgeably about it, so I'm sure somebody's going to come in and be like, well, because of the COVID year and because of this stipulation and that stipulation, then that person got to play this many years, and so that's why it's fair to him. Well, I'm also thinking of the freshman that came in and thought that he was going to get an opportunity to play, but this kid was just granted his fourth exemption,

and now he's playing his eighth year, and that kid has to transfer, but he can't transfer because of this rule, and the NCAA won't grant that. I don't know. Yeah, it does kind of seem like the wild, wild west at times where you can do anything you want. You can get paid. You can play wherever you want.

You can transfer. And then there's other times where apparently you can't. So I don't know. This kid from West Virginia, let him play. Let the ball play. Let him play. Now. This just goes back to the NCAA.

That's the NFL I've gone after. That's the NFL I've gone after. That's the NCAA I've gone after. We already talked about Liv. We talked about AJ's affiliations. I mean, I don't know what else we want to talk about on today's show. Anyone else we should piss off along the way? I got time. Piss off?

No, you're taking a stand. That's right. You're empowering people. You're changing things. This isn't a bad thing. This is a good thing. Now, the bad thing was you said fuck on ESPN. That was ridiculous.

I did not. I stopped. No, no. And Aaron already did it for me. Who cares? The 13-day streak was over. You guys were crushing it. You guys were crushing it.

Whoa. Oh, no. I think I said yesterday. That's not a good stat. That's not a good stat for me. I should not be on that list. I'm on once a week. You guys are on every day.

This is not good. The percentage of airtime versus fuck words very high for JJ. A leader in the clubhouse by a lot. Getting to the quarterback. If you're going to do something, do it 100%, you know? No.

Rent's due every day. Rent's due every day, guys. That's right. That's right. He's right. You're right. All right, let's get the hell out of here. We appreciate it.

The NCAA, though, sounds like because of a judge, they're not allowed to do their bullshit. Here we go. Let's have a good two weeks. Got to play. Go Mountaineers. Go Mountaineers. Let's go Mountaineers. I hope he comes out and has a triple-double first night. Let's go. Let's have a good two weeks. Go Mountaineers. Go Mountaineers. Let's go Mountaineers.

I hope he comes out and has a triple-double first night. Let's go. Been pent up. What were you going to say? I was going to say, JJ clearly, because he transferred, feels very powerful about this, but doesn't love it. And he was also, however, the exact person who should transfer. Smaller school, go to a bigger school, get bigger opportunity, more eyes on you.

But I assume at some point he brought this up and everybody on Twitter was like, shut up. You transferred. You can't talk about this. Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. And that's why he gets so fired. Well, that's why he prepped it with this is going to sound hypocritical because I did transfer.

He said, I get it. But also, you probably felt like when you did it, it was the right time. Went about the right way. Faced some adversity. Developed a little bit, and went back to a place of your dreams. As opposed to just, I'm out of here because there's potentially more money that you don't even know if it's real or not. And then once you sign into the second school, you're stuck there until you graduate because the NCAA's rules are stupid. So it's a whole fucked up situation. I would have moved for a free Subway sub if somebody offered me that.

I would have gone to whatever school that gave me a free $5 footlong. You know what the issue is with Subway? Well, I saw what happened with one particular gentleman and the amount of weight he lost. Sure. Sweet onion chicken teriyaki. That's the only thing. Chicken teriyaki. That's the only thing.

But I was told through visually and through the messaging, Subway healthy. You know what I mean? Look at this guy. This guy eats sandwiches. I love sandwiches. This fucking guy ate sandwiches. He did a lot of other stuff. He fucking ate sandwiches.

And he lost a lot of terrible stuff. But during that process, he ate sandwiches. And look at his pants then. Look at his fucking pants now. I started getting these tuna sandwiches from Subway. I'm like, I'm a healthy guy. I'm a super healthy guy. Very healthy.

They're worse than like two Big Macs. They were fucking pumping those things with so much. There's a couple healthy sandwiches in there, but not all of them. There's a lot of things that are worse than McDonald's and pizza in there. Make sure you read the labels. If you go to Panera, do not get the juice lemonade. Amen. I got to know about this.

I feel like the algorithm got hacked because that is everywhere on my social media, is this lemonade. It's electric, by the way. I don't know about that from tone, but I do know that Connor explained the situation to me the other day, and I don't think if there's... I still have not looked into what the real situation is because

of how good Connor explained it to me. Connor, what happened with this woman and her significant other at a Panera the other day? So essentially, this lady was going to work in a Panera, and this is very slow, speaking wise, in comparison to her, but she was working at a Panera, and she doesn't drink caffeine normally. She didn't work there., but she was working at a Panera and she doesn't drink caffeine. She didn't work there.

She was doing her job at, excuse me. She was working in a Panera, not at a Panera in a Panera. And essentially what she did was she was drinking these, uh, hyped up lemonades and there's free refills at a Panera. So you can get four to five refills a day.

So she was drinking four to five of these a day. And then one time she was going through the drive-thru with her boyfriend and her fiance and her fiance wanted to try the drink. And so he looked up the ingredients to the drink because he's a type 1 diabetic. And when they looked it up, there was 86 grams of sugar in one of them. Forget about the 86 grams of sugar. The 86 grams of sugar is not the big deal. The big deal here is there were 260 milligrams of caffeine in every single drink.

And she was having four to five of them each day. And then her diabetic boyfriend took a sip and died on the spot now i don't know if that's true at the end there but yeah basically this lady was grand saying that she wasn't having caffeine yes like i get this work done without caffeine i'll have the lemonade just because i'll pay and then turns out she was having how many how many is in a standard coffee in A shot of espresso is, I believe, 62 milligrams of caffeine, and there is 260 milligrams of caffeine in everything. I think the coffee was 90 milligrams.

Coffee is like 75 to 100. That's awesome. He's basically doing cocaine. He's basically doing cocaine over there. People shoot the joke about her husband being diabetic dying. Not true. He is diabetic. Not true that he died.

But there actually have been two people who have died. Jesus. From the caffeine? Shut up. From lemonade? Actually, yeah, from all the shit in it. St. Normal lemonade. Okay, all right.

I mean. Free refills. This is for lemonade. For local lemonade. For what it's worth, the conversation about it has made me want to try it. I will say that. Yeah. JJ.

We'll try four or five of them and then not die and then say, here you go. Look at me. Look at me. All right. Let's get to a break. I mean, you're a physical specimen. Yes. I mean, it's not killing anybody.

Those people had something else going on. Let's get real. Like, he didn't take a sip of lemonade and pass out. You talk about... We're talking about dead people here. I'm jumping into Diggs' territory there if I'm talking about this. What was it called? Something conditions.

Underlying. Yeah, underlying conditions. Pre-existed. 10 people, 500 bucks. No, this is the worst one. This is a tough one. That's why I said it. Oh, good throw. Good try. I was a tough one. That's why I said it. Oh, good throw. Good try. I'm figuring it out. I was power cradling earlier.

I forget what we were talking about. I had to do what I had to do. JJ, appreciate your time today, pal. I hope that TV show went well. It did. It did. It was great. It's coming along very well. When is release date? Um... I mean, Can I tell you?

No, there's music playing. That means we've got to get out. Okay, so you have a release date. That means... Yeah, huge. It's happening. No, we don't have... It's not sold.

The trailer, the sizzle to be sold is prepared. You guys are in it. You guys are in the sizzle. Because we talked about it. Right down the pipe. Right down. The sizzle.

Not for public consumption. Don't matter. No, I'm joking. Why not public consumption? The sizzle should be public consumption so then there's public pressure on people to buy it. Boom. Pretzel. It's called What It Takes. It's about what it takes to be great.

What? I want to say what I like. I like the sizzle and I like the steak. We want to see the steak real. Keep the sizzle real private. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. Good luck to Burnley. Go get him, J.J.

Go on, J.J. What are our chances against Everton this weekend, Gumpch? They're plus 220 on the money line at home. What's normal underdog? Double chance you get them at about even money, which I like. You get a draw, double chance win or draw. For Everton? I'm just saying, like, what is a normal underdog?

Like, plus 220, is that? Plus 220 is heavy. Everton's beaten Chelsea and another very good team on the bounce. Like Everton is rolling right now. Uh-oh. Yeah. Good run. Hey, he said, didn't you hear him say his goalie,

he stood on his head and had 10 saves? I've never seen a soccer game where there's 10 total shots on goal. AJ, they were under siege at the end of that game. Brighton was like ripping balls. It was a fun game to watch. I'm sure it was entertaining. It was an impressive effort by the goalie.

0% chance. Wasn't a cagey match. We got the Euros and Copa America coming up this summer, boys. The Europes. Copa America's in the U.S. U.S. is in it this year with Argentina and Brazil. We're playing Argentina? That'll be cool.

We want to be in the Europes. Tell them we want to play in the Europes. We don't want to play in the Argentina one. We don't want to play against Messi. That's how we got the NFL to do a game in Brazil was we got to be in the Copa. Oh, that was part of the negotiation. It's a good trade.

Did we qualify for the World Cup yet? Yeah, dude. We're hosting it. Yeah, you automatically qualify. I know, but I'm saying, is that automatically qualified if you host it? Oh, so that's the old thing. Hey, guarantee we're in, which is hosting. Which has caused quite a controversy in the past for some of the places.

Yeah, Qatar was not a good club. They compete. You're going to kill people and force us to watch your poopy team. They stunk. Let's get to a break. We'll be back on the other side. We've got Everything DB Presents, Good D and Bad D. Hell yeah.

That should be an absolute blast. Also covering all the other stories that happened today while we've been live, since we've been live. And, oh, yeah, Draymond Green has been ejected for the third time this season. What? Whoa. Yeah, it happened. For what?

I didn't see that. He did a Draymond Green move right out of the Draymond Green book. Hashtag new media. He doesn't take no shit on a court. No. Be a friend, tell a friend something. Here he was. Oh, you want to push me out, huh?

Box you. Ah, boom. Right in my mouth. He wasn't punching. He was just trying to get out of there. He was trying to get out of there. Dirk just didn't do anything. He's just standing on the same court as him.

Look how Draymond flops after he hits him, too. It's all over him, Ty. It's so awesome. He is all over him. Get off me. Oh, my God. You're playing defense against me. You can't push me from behind.

You can't push me from behind. Yes, you can. Yeah, you're allowed to do that. You're supposed to. You wasn't even doing that. He barely even touched that. He had fingertips on him, maybe. Why did you punch me in the face?

You stayed so close. What do you mean? It's basketball. In one of the replays, it's right in front of the Warriors bench, and the one guy who's right in front of Draymond just... Why'd you do that? Yeah, who's on the Warriors. But you can see him like, what the hell are you doing?

He's an adult now, right? Draymond, how old are you? Oh, yeah. Super old. 33, I think. 33, yeah. Super old. 33. 33, yeah. At least. I love it.

I love that he's just still doing it. Lunatic. Draymond Green still has his Draymond Green shit. Bingo. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Gotta respect it. And he'll just have a job forever because?

Just because? He's a mean cuss. I don't know about that. Yeah, he just signed his last deal probably. Hell of a run, Draymond. Maybe just like we should stop being surprised. Yeah. You know?

This is what it is. Mm-hmm. Things are going on this podcast. He's going to talk about it. Yep. It's like, hey, he's got a good little racket going. Yeah, truly. Pretty smart little maneuver.

They led 30 minutes this morning. Twice. 30 minutes. They were talking about it right after our show, too, on SportsCenter. Oh, so we didn't get the memo. They had Wendy on it. We were potentially offered Wendy. We said, not today.

We don't have time. On a Wednesday. When real basketball news happens. We bring in Wendy. The wind man. Yeah. Yeah. But us, as a program, we don't see what the...

He smacked the guy in the mouth. He got ejected. That's straight on green baseball. Yeah, there we are. They move on. Will they miss him? Wasn't even the most egregious ejection last night. Yeah, Joker getting ejected on Serbian Heritage Night in Chicago.

Cannot have that. In the second quarter. That needs to lead the thing. Yeah, they're lucky his brothers weren't in the second quarter, that needs to lead the thing. Yeah. They're lucky his brothers weren't in the stands. Exactly. These refs need to just figure it out. We get it.

You got a little bit of power, but a guy's allowed to call you a motherfucker if he wants to, which is what Mike Malone pretty much told us Joker said to the ref, especially on Serbian Heritage Night in Chicago. They probably fucked up so many tickets. Joker, you don't ever kick Joker out. Why would you kick him out ever? Best player in the league. Yes.

The champs. You heard him after the game? Mm-mm. It's like, I wish I would have pulled this off. I wish I would have tried this in Serbia. Yeah. I'd be interested to see how that would have went. That's what he said?

Yeah. Mm-hmm. I mean, just for talking. He didn't bump him. He didn't bump him. He didn't push him. Just for talking. Football. It's happening tomorrow night as week 15 of the NFL season kicks off on prime

as the Los Angeles Chargers take on the Las Vegas Raiders. And a divisional bot that we will want to watch with Kirk Herbstreit and Amazon's only Al Michaels. That was big news yesterday when it hit the internet. That's A.J. Hawk. The talk table is here at Boss of Corner and at Ty Schmidt. One after the hammer, Don Cowboys-Tone Diggs is here, and a man who will be hosting everything DBs, good D, bad D, just in a matter of moments, nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler.

What do you mean, boss? Did you see this about Al Michaels, AJ, yesterday? Yeah, I did. So he got pulled off a game that he thought he might be doing for NBC? Yeah, so NBC has multiple games during whenever Super Wild Card and the playoffs come, and it was a nice little treat to see him back on NBC coverages last year once he became the Amazon Thursday Night Football announcer and Mike Tirico took his job on Sunday Night Football now I guess a move has been made by NBC to get him off of that game and he will

no longer be working with NBC for the first time in forever seemingly I did not read the entire article Ty I believe you did what did it say and where are we at in that entire situation yeah so he he has been apparently they've been moving to kind of try to do this for a while and someone uh like mentioned this to him and he basically said like well that's part of my contract so if this is the case like you're privy to something and i'm not privy to it right now, so you've heard more than I have. But the article made it seem like NBC has kind of been maneuvering to get him off this game for quite some time now. Okay, interesting, fascinating. I don't think Al Michaels knew that.

Will he have a little bit more juice tomorrow? Potentially. How do you think Al Michaels, or will he just be the consummate professional that he is and not even respond to any of it? I think he got asked about it, right, by somebody at some point? Yeah, right, and that's when he said, like, yeah, I'm not aware of this. So if you are, you know something I don't know. And I think a lot of people said it was because that him and Tony Dungy

weren't very ecstatic or over the top because they had the Jacksonville Chargers game last year, you know, crazy comeback and everything, and people were like, it just didn't, you know, it didn't feel like they were into it. So I think, but again, I don't know. Who's doing it then? Who's taking the spot? Good question. To your point, I do not envy the position that NBC is in to figure that out.

Because whenever you replace Al Michaels with Mike Tirico, it's like, all right, you know, Mike Tirico is already known. When Mike Tirico is on, it's a big name. You know, like it feels big. We talk about that. Like when some people call sports, it just feels big. Like Chris Fowler, whenever he's on a game, all right, he's calling something big. You know, when it's tennis, it's something big. Whenever it's football, it's something big.

It just feels that way with his voice. And that has only built up over a matter of time. That's not an easy thing for young broadcasters to just be able to create. I think Adam Amin is currently creating his own little lane. I think Noah, what's his name? Noah Eagle is also kind of up and coming, doing his thing.

It's like, there's not a lot of those spots up there at the top in that particular profession. So there's a lot of people trying to get there. It's like, what a, what a tough line of work. I was about to say bad line of work, but it's obviously you get to call sports,

so it's a great line of work. But it's not easy to get there. That's a big role that's about to be opened up for somebody, unless Tirico just does both of them. I'm not even sure if that's possible. Yeah, I think they did say that's kind of what they're looking at is that Noah Eagle potentially will be on the call with whoever he does. I don't know who he does games with weekly for NBC,

but I think that's who they're kind of eyeing for that secondary game. College, right? Yeah. And he also is part of the Brooklyn Nets broadcast, too. And obviously his dad is a legend. So we're not just going to say that nepotism once again strikes again? No. Okay.

Because Joe Buck, Jack Collinsworth, now Noah Eagle, you know, Sims family obviously haven't even – it happens a lot. Todd Blackledge is who Noah Eagle's with. Okay. So it feels like that type of thing happens a lot, you know. But we should not judge the person for that. Nope. Not their fault that they potentially got to meet the right people

at all these places. That is not their fault. Now, if they suck, we people at all these places. That is not their fault. Now, if they suck, we should. Right. That's when. That's when. You know what I mean, AJ? That's when we should let it be known.

So we're pulling for no. Good luck out there, pal. Good luck, Noah. Good luck out there, pal. Not easy. Excited to hear Michael's response from it. I have an update on a news story from earlier today. Okay.

I have some good news. Great news, actually. No way. Man, call us the great news show. Warpig? Alive? What? IWA East Coast, which was the promotion in which I wrestled Warpig in down there in Charleston, West Virginia.

Whoa. Just a heads up. Any reports of War War Pig and his passing are untrue. Wow. Oh, my God. What? Yes. However, we can confirm that multiple attempts to create a Mrs. War Pig in the same lab that created War Pig

has only led to random offshoots of designer meth. Okay. So they still got their fastball. Still got it, yeah. They still got their fastball. Still got it, yeah. They still got their fastball, and that was a direct word from IWA East Coast, which was the promotion in which I wrestle. Warpix still got his fastball.

That's great news. That's great to hear. After Becktold. Holy shit. This is like when Jesus came back. Tone, why you got to ruin everything? What do you mean? Pretty much.

What was that, AJ? Tone, why'd you got to ruin everything? What do you mean? Pretty much. What was that, AJ? Same thing. You took it too far. What are you talking about? Was he dead or not? Not dead. No. Still kicking.

A lot. Okay. I don't know how to take that statement. It's just confusing with the ending and all of it. The ending was they were trying to cook up another war pig. Instead, what ended up happening was just some more meth. Which we don't love, obviously. We don't love that at all.

War Pig was great in a lap. Yes, War Pig is not just out on a farm. Of course, yeah. Headline in WrestleMania probably coming up. Fingers crossed. Could be. I hope. I don't know how many cigarettes have been smoked since the time I wrestled him to now,

but his lungs are in the spot they need to be for WrestleMania over there in Philadelphia. Him putting butts out on Super Hummin's face. Oh my god. Are you kidding me? Super Hummin still has his fastball as well. Well, people are questioning that. You all are the only ones. That's just because we've seen these other stunts

that are being done in these middle school gyms and there's one guy that went off the top rope, threw a plane or a paint glass into a concrete floor. These death matches that are happening in the wrestling world, if you just get that into your algo for a day or two, you're about to see humans that just literally have the fuck it mentality more so than anybody that has ever been documented. It's great.

I love it. I cannot respect the art in its purest form. That's not so beautiful. Just so we know. I respect the fuck out of these people that go and just beat the hell out of themselves to a dangerous level for other

people's entertainment. So other people will have a good night. Other people will have... I respect the hell out of that. Me too. But professional wrestling in its purest form is not that. That just needs a... It is a form of professional wrestling. I'm not saying it is not. For sure. And I've been and seen a death match before

and I respect and appreciate everybody that does that. But like, you get a lot of those old heads that are the purest form of professional wrestling and they're like, why are these guys trying to kill themselves in our profession? Yeah. Well, it's called a death match. These dudes are insane. We're talking about jumping off the top of Barnes.

Top of Barnes. What are you landing on? Anything? No, the cement. It's better. I hit on the cement. That'll be good. It's like, what, dude? That is not the right move. And guess what? They kick out. Yeah, of course. No.

Pierce form is Dean Malenko versus Eddie Guerrero. Just no holds barred. I don't know. Ric Flair probably took somebody on in an Ironman 60-minute match down there. Ricky the Dragon Steamboat. Yeah, that was probably actually the one. Lesnar take. How about

Brock Lesnar, Braun Strowman, and Kane triple threat match Royal Rumble 2018. Wow. Yeah. Got any highlights from that? One video has been making its way into my algo. Let's go.

Braun Strowman and Brock Lesnar had a fight in the middle of the ring. They did. And Brock hit him with a two-piece body shot, head shot. And it's like, the things that are said about Brock Lesnar is like, he's the best professional wrestler when it comes to everything. He got needed in the head. And boy, Braun Strowman is like what, 6'7"? Big time bitch. Brock is a...

Just those two guys just in the middle. Imagine the fans just being like, holy fuck, look at these guys. Look at these fucking two right here. They're doing it right now. What if he got knocked out too? Brock Lesnar, think about Brock Lesnar just the human being real quick. You know, we talked about Maya Lesnar.

What was that, last week? Yeah. Two weeks ago? Last week. That dude, have you ever seen him live in person? Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's just different.

It is different. It's a different thing. Have you ever seen him, AJ? Have you ever seen him? I don't believe. I don't think I've ever seen him in person. He's like a spectacle. Oh, yeah.

Like his arms, his hands. His hands are so big. His back is so big. He's like, and his hands though, like if he was to straighten his arms his hands his hands his back his back is so big he's like and his hands though like if he was to straighten his arms which you can't because his fucking lats or whatever it is so big he is like uh he actually has like a squirrel suit at all times because of what his back is if he was to straighten him i think his hands would go to his actual ankles like if he wanted to and then you see him he can sit down and like touch his like put his body flat in between his legs.

He's like... He can run and jump too. He's an absolute freak. Can you imagine if he took his kids to a public pool somewhere, took his shirt off with a sweet tattoo and go all the way down his chest as well? Man, he is a specimen.

He walks by in just regular clothes and you're like, that's a fucking thing right there. That is something. You know what I mean? I don't know what that is, but that is the biggest what I have ever seen. But then whenever he does get all, you know, his boobs are about four feet tall. Yeah, it's absurd. You know what I mean?

It's like, what a fucking freak that guy is. Absolute stallion. What a stud. One of is. Absolute stallion. What a stud. One of one. And Braun Strowman, you know. Walked around and found out. A little bit. I mean, we talk about old football.

Could you imagine Brock Lesnar? Yeah. Full-time football. Bingo, yeah. Outside middle linebacker. Whole life. Yes. All he focused on was football.

Yeah. Let's say he was in Ohio instead of Dakota. And it was like, this is what you do. His fucking arms. What he would do to people. And he does seemingly, UFC heavyweight champion,

whatever he wanted to, seemingly has the ability mentally to be like, I want to put you down. Through the ground. And he's still properly jocked. seemingly has the ability mentally to be like, yeah, I want to, you know. Put you down. Yeah. Through the ground. You know what I mean? Through the ground.

And he's still properly jocked. Properly. Haven't seen him in a while, right? Yeah. Has he been on? I don't think he's been around. I haven't seen him. Where the hell is he?

Hibernating. Probably Canada. Getting bigger. Stronger, faster. Oh, yeah. Define father time somehow. Oh, yeah. What a stud, dude.

What an absolute beast. The best. All right, let's move along. Let's wrap up the show with probably the best segment we have. Pump for this. You know, In the Trenches is obviously fantastic. Sure. But that's focusing on one particular part of the game.

We used to have Coach B's keys, but due to the ability for Chuck to talk about everything as opposed to just one particular thing, we kind of saved Chuck from himself. We want him to be a part of the whole conversation. So segment-wise, Chuck, great segment. This is the only segment where we're learning about all 22 people on the field. That's right. It's offense. Yep. It's defense. Right.

And it's great breakdowns. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for everything DB. Good D and bad D. D-Butch, that's that good D up on the top there, but I do believe we'll be beginning with the bad D and then we'll end with the good D. It's my week, Ernie. Yeah, I think the way that Dirty has done his work

since having a baby has been nothing short of phenomenal way to go Dirty Dirty's going through life buds that's the first few weeks I appreciate that Dirty with that cool voice

Dirty you've been killing it pal he's back sorry thanks y'all cool voice. Dirty, you've been killing it, pal. He's back. Sorry, thanks, y'all. Here it is. How you feeling, Dirty? I'm feeling all right. I'm feeling good. Had some coffee. I'm all right.

Okay, hey, maybe have some lemonade from Panera. Yeah. On the next all-nighter, I can do that. Hey, Dirty's a small guy. Don't. You know what I mean? Not too small. You know, I get properly proportioned. Yeah, normally. Normal size. Yeah, normal size. Yeah, properly small guy. You know what I mean? Not too small. You know, I get properly proportioned. Normal size.

Yeah, normal size. Yeah, properly proportioned. Yeah, you know, he's a little dirty. I'm not saying anything we all don't know. It is what it is. It is what it is. One of the smaller humans in the office. Bingo. So that's not your fault.

No. It's just, you know, and we don't say anything about it ever. But what I am saying is, like, I don't think you should have two or three of those lemonades. No. From what I'm hearing. It is for local lemonade out there. Yeah, we need to take care of ourselves. Probably half a lemonade will get the job done for me. Could you imagine

if we had these lemonades during the real heyday of our drinking primes? What would have been done with these things? That was when we were in New York Sunday night and Monday, Indianapolis, Thursday night football game, then game day. Was that bang for you guys? Yeah. The bang energy?

I think it was a bang run. It was so fucking bad at the end. It was. Just like those big Celsiuses. Gained 50 pounds. 50 pounds. That's my pen. Well, you keep dropping them. No. And they make a loud noise every time you do it. Anytime that does happen, I do stop and kind of reevaluate what I'm doing.

But I'm hot right now. I've spun this in like 50 times. Yeah, but you've dropped it two times today. Today? Yeah, you had one in Java, literally. No, that was yesterday. Nope. Yesterday you had three in Java.

No, no, no. Yeah, you did. You picked it up. Yeah, I dropped three today. Yeah, I dropped three today. Damn. He just picked up one and there's two on either of my sides. And there was one in Java too, so that'd be four.

I don't think there's one. Is there? Hour one, there was one in Java. You definitely picked it up in the middle of the commercial break. You said you're a goldfish literally on college game day. I think you're right. You think about, oh, you know what? I just banged this pen off the microphone and threw it across the room. Oh, I shouldn't do that.

All right, where's the next pen? And I get right back into it. I do keep five here, and I should just keep one. Five. Just to stop myself. This guy's got five at-bats. I got five at-bats the last three and a half hours. Yeah, that is true.

Typically, I only remember the bad things, so I try and those are just right in the middle. Neutral. Not bad. Hey, you know what we need to get back into huh those spinners were awesome oh why people stop with us we need to invent no we need us we need to start our own those things that their time has passed we need to fuck come up with it'll look exactly like the fucking fidgets and spend the other way and work the exact same way it'd be the exact same size. Those things were perfect. Was that before iPhones?

Or am I wrong? No. Those were five years ago. Those were awesome. Yeah, they were. My goodness. Shit, this generation is soft. That was while we were doing this show, Foxy.

It was like three or four years ago. I thought I remember high school for some reason. Were iPhones invented three or four years ago? I mean, I was just saying because he thought fidget spinners might have been before the... Blackberry? I remember hating on fidget spinners when I saw them on the internet. I'm like, this fucking generation sucks so bad. These kids suck so bad.

Like, well, if you're ADHD and maybe you are fidgety, this is not a bad way to kind of focus your energy into it. Everybody's so soft all the time. Just fucking deal with it. I'm fidgety. Obviously, I have ADHD. I don't need this shit. It's hard. And I got my fingers on one of those fidget spinners.

I was like, oh, this is fucking sweet. You have yo-yos back in the day? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I used to be able to walk the dog. Yep. It says 2017 was the heyday for the fidget spinners. Makes sense.

Six years ago. Those were awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I need one. They years ago. Those were awesome. Yeah. Yeah, I need one. They just disappeared. Why? Is it probably because of? People just.

They broke very, very easily. They were huge for people with ADHD, and then people with ADHD just moved on to the next thing. They solved their ADHD. That's funny. That's funny to think about the ADHD. These things suck. What are we?

We're broke. Get me out of here. Those were awesome. The silly putty was my go-to growing up. What was that? It was basically just like a ball of clay, essentially. The next iteration of Play-Doh.

Stickier, shinier Play-Doh. It made noise. That was my go-to. What was the stuff that Robin Williams created in the lab? Flubber. Similar to that. Kind of like Flubber. We need Flubber. We do. That'd be sweet. Bullshit, we didn't have Flubber. I know. Yeah.

Now we got AI. Thanks a lot, technology. Yeah, Nickelodeon Gak was sweet. Gak was sweet. What was Gak? What's that? Similar to... Slime?

Yeah. No. It was similar. Silly Putty? Very similar to Silly Putty. But like more... I didn't fuck with any of that shit. More slimy.

Yeah, it was just nice to have in your hands because it was just something to do. Because like the ADHD, it just goes off. All right. Somebody figure it out. Figure it out. Another week down with Darius in Thunderdome. It's crazy. It's been a fun run this fall.

Let's continue this thing tomorrow, shall we? Big program tomorrow, AJ. Big one. Thursdays are always huge for us. I might go three straight days with a shirt on. Oh, I like that. It looks good. Let's go. Thank, I like that. It looks good. Let's go.

Thank you, Foxy. It looks comfortable. Thank you. Got some people calling me a sellout. It's like 30 degrees outside. Who the hell? Do what you want to do. I'm sure they wear tank tops to work every day.

I had a lady come up to me at the Army-Navy game, and she said, I just want to let you know that I do not mean any offense by this. Nobody can pull off a tank top. Even you. Even you. I said, thank you. Jeez.

I said, thank you. She said, nobody should wear those ever. I was like, okay, I'll put you down in the, not a fan of the tank top. Thank you. Not a fan of the tank top. She was very nice. She did deliver it in a very nice way but the message

was cold hearted like damn you're pretty savage lady where did it originate I actually got asked this last night

at the bar I don't know I just started doing it one day and then it was like kind of hilarious that we're doing daily sports

and I'm wearing a fucking tank top every day and everybody wears a suit all day every day have to wear a suit all day every day. Have to wear a suit to talk about sports. Have to. So if you go the complete opposite

of that, which is a tank top, that's a pretty funny little thing. And then I started falling in love with them. Like, these things are so comfortable. And then every day of my life got very easy. Just like, what am I wearing? Well, I have 60. I'm wearing these. I'm wearing this. And as the arms started, it was like, this is what I'm

supposed to wear so then for like a good 8 to 9 month period it was like I was super jacked to wear it every day and then I would like a shirt would show up that my wife either bought or I saw or something I'm like man I really like that shirt good shirt and I'm like can't ruin a gimmick

though like I often wonder if Steve Jobs ever saw like a t-shirt he was, I fucking love that T-shirt. Yeah. I love that T-shirt. Wear it around the house. I love that T-shirt. But then he's like, I got to go to Turtleneck. I got to go with the uniform in there.

So tank top's not gone forever. But that's how it started. I think it was about, like, six of the same tank top. And just once it got, I was like, this is so comfortable. And then it just became like, yeah, this would be actually and then it just one thing led to another yeah once you got the iteration that you liked it was bosses yeah shout out to amazon creating a fact that i could just buy double xl tank tops and i'd be in my house literally the next day yeah i was like think about it what is more ridiculous wearing a suit at 10 in the morning talking about

sports or having a tank top on well you ask a of people, they would say the tank top for sure. That's what I heard from them. I heard from them. But the whole you got to wear a suit to talk sports thing, that became wild to me. Other countries don't do it. That isn't like, you know. No. It just became like the thing.

And I understand respecting people that are watching and dressing up and everything like that. I get it. We're in airports and everything and should at least look professional. I understand. And I thought it people that are watching and dressing up and everything like that. I get it. We're in airports and everything and should at least look professional. I understand. And I thought it was a very professional tank top. And I tried to stay in shape. You know what I mean? I was respecting everything that was going on. I was trying my best.

But it is nice to be able to wear another shirt every once in a while. I've kind of cracked the code. Cracked the seal on it. And because of how fucking bitterly cold it is outside. It's chilly. It is. No snow. That's worse. Snow's chilly. It is. No snow. No snow. That's worse.

Snow's gone. There really hasn't been. What is going on? It never snows. It's December. We got enough of a time to wait on the snow. I'm a firm believer, though, that it's colder when there isn't snow. I agree.

100%. Even if it's the same temperature. You know, and people, the science people tell me I'm wrong. It's like, well, you've never fucking been outside when it's snowing. That way it's not snowing. Exactly. Even if it's windy snowing, when the snow is there, it feels warmer. That's just the way it is.

I love snow. And you can appreciate winter more. For me personally, at least, when there's snow on the ground, I can appreciate it. This is not Joe DiNardo's reporting, but the internet is telling us that snow might be coming to Indianapolis on the 27th, two days after Christmas. Christmas is soon, by the way. Yeah, next week. The 27th. Nice. Right around the corner. Sure they know. They know.

They got weather reports two weeks out. It definitely won't change. No, not here in Indiana either. You know what I mean? That's not the case. It's a high of 46. I don't think it's going to snow. Yeah, it's not sticking. Boy, oh boy. Hey, I'm snow showered.

It's 32. Wow. If they pull out the flash freeze again, I'm out. I'm done. You're talking about the whoosh? Yeah. That was fucking. I'm done with weather if they do that again.

Weather had it rain. Done with weather. Weather had it rain here in Indiana, and then the next day, coldest it's ever fucking been. Yeah. So it was literally like a freezing of the rain. That was a one-two punch that I didn't think Mother Nature still fucking had. No. Yeah, everybody was off.

It was a slow ride in. Mother Nature fucking brought it. Oh, yeah? That was a real... I can't believe she's still in the kitchen cooking up new fucking shit. Seriously. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah?

She's in the lab fucking making it. Well, she's got new ingredients. Huh? She's got new ingredients. Like's got new ingredients like what bro that thing was crazy you know it was literally a setup it was an alley it was like you get somebody from like south florida experience in their first snow it's like let's have a snowball fight you got it easy trick you just get two snowballs and then you're throwing one up in the sky and it's like oh that's fun get out of the way and then you got one coming right down the fucking pipe, you know, with the head up, bang. This is a setup.

This is a jab. Exactly. Into an entire thing. Remember a couple years ago, Atlanta, when it started snowing and it was like four hours of traffic? They can't deal with it. They don't have salt trucks. Yeah, Mother Nature still got it.

She still got it. Yeah, that's like Vegas. Remember when Vegas got two inches of snow and they shut down the city because they have one snowplow in the entire city? Yeah, and then there was like what? There was snow in Cali? Yeah. Cali, Florida.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Southern California? Yeah. I think that was during that flash freeze time. What's going on? You tell me, Darius. What are your thoughts, Darius J. Butler?

Ask Al Gore. Are we talking about weather? They shot him in the head. Just thinking if Bill's going to take it. He's a lot of weather. That's all right. I saw him speaking. He was on a TV that was walking past in a cafe the other day.

I actually said, oh, internet. The guy created internet. There he is. Yeah, definitely still on. Oh, I did see. I saw a clip of him on X. Yeah. I forgot what he was talking about.

I don't think it was X. I saw him on TV. But he's the creator of it. That's all. I think that guy's the creator of internet. And also other stuff I've heard. Inconvenient truth. It's the creator of it. That's all. I think that guy's the creator of the internet. And also other stuff I've heard. Inconvenient truth. It's the movie he made.

Don't look up, dude. Yeah, seriously. He didn't make that movie, but I'm sure he loved it. Does Bill take his weather machine with him? What's that, pal? When he leaves New England? If he leaves New England, does he take his weather? He probably owns that.

The weather machine? That was going to be my question. That would have been a real ambush question. So how do you control the weather up here? Tell me. Bill Pullian told me you guys control the weather up here. He might have pooped his pants on the air. Robert Kraft?

Yeah. He was sharp, dude. He talks slow. Yeah, he's still with it. You know what I mean? He talks. I don't know if that's how he always talks. Yeah.

He's always talked this way? long as i know yeah i mean at least from 2008 and on he's still though like questions i was asking like obviously yeah it's just like jim hersey like if he can get past how he's talking like the message that's coming through is like's like one that is, you know, coming from a place that probably knows more shit than you do. So, like, should listen. Bingo, yeah. Should absolutely listen. Especially when it comes to, like, football and stuff. How about Bill Belichick, though, whenever he was up there, dude?

It's unbelievable. That was a cool moment. Seriously, that was the best Belichick, like, in public speaking that I have ever seen in my entire life. Is Lambeau still on his show right now? We should have him on tomorrow. We'll have Lambeau on tomorrow. I wonder what his takes were. Bill on the show.

The people that know Bill, how they feel about him on game day, I wonder. I would assume it's just like, yeah, it's Bill. Is that how you... He was pretty good on the Top 100 100 too. Yes. With Ivan.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They won an Emmy, I think. They did, yeah. They won an Emmy for that thing. A lot of people are saying, he just go do TV. Go do TV. It's like, I'd like to say, if he's going to do TV, we would certainly like to get involved in that.

Yeah. But also, I don't know if he's going to just, yeah, be able to step away. I think Bill wants to give his take on Draymond's, you know, ejection every single day and do that. There's a lot of jobs in TV, AJ. Yeah. There's a lot of jobs.

I'm just saying, Bill to me feels like a coach. Coach is coach. Yeah, and it's always fun to think, like, you'll just be able to walk away. Like, Aaron, you know, going into the draft. Rex is trying to get back in coach every time, and Rex has a great gig and he's great at it. Well, I'm talking like these football lifers.

They all think like, yeah, I'll be able to just walk away. Yeah. I understand. I don't need the game. And then like all of a sudden, they actually start to think about what life will be like and they're like, nope. No, I can't do that. What am I? I gotta do life?

I gotta do like human stuff? No way. Get me back in the film. Coach and GM can't do that. What am I? I got to do life? I got to do, like, human stuff? No way. Get me back in the film. Coach and GM, so much time doing football stuff. Yeah. His whole life. You just remove that. I think nobody believes he's done coaching, right?

No. He's got to get that record. He's so close to the record. Yeah. Without a doubt, he is going to get that record. And, like, you just bring up coaches calling it after being lifers. Like, a lot of the times it's, I want to spend time with my family, all that shit. Like, his two sons coach on the team.

He does spend time with his family every day because he coaches football. How are the Cincinnati Bengals fans reacting to us, wondering what Zach Taylor was saying out there? I saw that one dude who normally replies to you. Drew? Yeah. He's a good guy. I like him. He said you obviously took it the wrong way or some shit like that.

Okay. I'm happy to hear that. Gumby, has there been any other Bengals responses for that whole thing? We're just reacting to what we're seeing. Yeah, there's not much. You can't debate what he said. He said what he said. Is anything really pissed anybody off today?

That's always a fun time with Gumumpy because Gumpy's posting the live videos on my ex account or whatever. Gumpy's phenomenal at ripping, posting, searching, finding. I mean, he's the best in the world at it. And after, you know, it's like, pal, didn't expect a blah, blah, blah. Or they'll be like, this one's really good. Yesterday, for instance, Nebraska fans. Yeah. Very, very active. Loved it. On X. Very. Shout out to the Cornhuskers.

How's the hashtag PMS National Filth League doing? Yeah, I wonder. No issues with it. Yeah. People are mad about J.J. Watt saying he couldn't demonstrate what a hip drop tackle is. Suck it, J.J. Yeah, why are you always lying? Also, people are happy that he said people that don't play football are trying to make the rules. suck it JJ why are you always lying

also people are happy that he said people that don't play football are trying to make the rules so I see the wrestling and rugby people are upset because you know it's in rugby and stuff like that and you could definitely demonstrate it alright

shout out rugby yeah it is if Travis Kelsey keeps throwing the ball and everybody else starts doing that, it's going to start looking like rugby spread out. Yeah. Because you're going to have to start defending people that are also on the field. It's going to be a whole new animal. Could add a little added element.

But also, all you need is like two of those getting picked six the other way, and all of a sudden you'll see coaches going, yep, hey, guess what we're not doing. Ever. Never again. Never again. We got the first down. So, we're going to line it up again guess what we're not doing? Ever. Never again. We got the first down, so we're going to line it up again with a full play that we've spent

hours putting in. And guess what we're going to do? We're going to gain some yards with that one, get back in the huddle, we're going to do it again. But if you're Travis Kelsey and you've got the freedom and the ability, Odell Beckham Jr. is next. Those guys with great arms.

Tyreek. Tyreek can throw the shit out of a football. Yeah. I mean, just so fucking filthy, dude. Like, if that ball. It's just so many bad things that can happen. It was close to getting tipped right off the bat. So close.

Yeah. It was this close to being terrible. Full speed. Full speed, dude. Watch this. That's why it's filthy. Almost gets hit in the elbow and almost gets... Bro.

Could you imagine the narrative if that gets tipped and why he made that throw? Oh, my God. You're right. Taylor's in the fucking stand. He's showing off. This motherfucker doesn't care about winning. He got his new girlfriend in town, so he wants to say, I could throw like Patrick. Script it.

I appreciate the fact that Taylor Swift is falling in love with football, by the way. Me too. Could you imagine that? She's talked a lot about it, about how big of a fan of football she has become. She loves it. That's sweet. Welcome to football. You think she still is?

After what happened? Yeah. Because you saw the IG post from significant others that were involved in that game. Could you imagine her in that suite, and they're all freaking out and she's like what are we doing here how how so are you keep going keep going with this you're talking about you're in there right now you might as well get your way out of there yeah come on what do you mean that was the end of the story no i don't think so it seems like everybody's halfway up the ladder nobody knows what you're talking about yeah you want and you put yourself into a hole and now you're halfway up the ladder like What do you mean? Yeah, you put yourself into a hole, and now you're halfway up the ladder.

I just picture, like, B. Ritt screaming at the top of her lungs about the refs. Who's B. Ritt? T. Swift. You don't just do that with everybody. It's not like B. Corp for Baron Corbin. Yeah, that's not what you just do. And Taylor's just like, I mean, what are we doing here? There's a lot, you know.

You think she thought maybe. It's a football game. Yeah, maybe. we doing here? There's a lot, you know. You think she thought maybe it's a football game. Yeah, maybe. I think she was probably so bummed for Trav. She was probably bummed for Trav. Bummed out. She was probably bummed out. I hope she told him that, though. Like, hey, I'm sick of listening to Brittany talk about Patrick being good at throwing the football.

Can you just throw the fucking ball once on the field, please? Imagine if Taylor is like, all right, what route are you running? Why don't you run a slant for me? I got a couple tips for you. You need to be more. You need to be more. I see Tyreek do that. That would be awesome.

That would be phenomenal. We hope that she's falling in love with the game that much. Yeah, that's the dream. What if she's just watching film every night? All right, so Travis, tell me why you're choosing. I watched the All-22 earlier. What if she starts using her big ass fucking brain too? She starts drawing

up plays. Let me show you what the Niners are doing real quick. See how Kittle kind of fakes this block and then releases inside? Like, you need to be doing that, Trav. You know, but to do that, you gotta set that up. You gotta block first. So, we need to at least get three, four plays of you. What if she is? She's sick!

I wouldn't put it past her. Fucking genius. You watch that documentary, you're like, oh, big fucking brain on Taylor Swift. Alright, let's get out of here. Foxy's going to announce all the winners from the past week on the way out of here. And as the holiday season draws near, obviously, let's continue to enjoy

every single moment. Let's be grateful that we're even alive. And let's hope that if we had a bad year, next year is going to be better. And if we had a great year, we're going to continue that momentum into next year and enjoy the hell out of everything. Big show tomorrow. Big thank you to J.J. Watt for stopping by today. Obviously, A.J. Hawk, the boys, you guys crushed it.

Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye.