The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 104 - A September 11th Conversation With Green Beret, Nate Boyer

Episode Date: September 12, 2019

On today’s show, Pat and the boys sit down for a conversation recorded on the anniversary of 9/11 with former University of Texas/Seattle Seahawks long snapper and Green Beret, Nate Boyer. They discuss where he was when he found out about 9/11 and what convinced him to go enlist, the process of becoming a Green Beret and how traveling abroad helped mold him for his time in the Green Beret’s, he tells some hilarious stories from his time at Texas, his involvement in the Colin Kaepernick situation, he talks about his work with Jay Glazer and their foundation, Merging Vets & Players. Nate also answers some questions from the guys concerning his film career, his relationship with Peter Berg, and what Matthew McConaughey is like on the sidelines at games (6:26-01:17:13). Today’s episode is a good one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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to step up and save lives instead of saving his own if you haven't heard that story yet please go look into it tom rinaldi wrote the book i was crying my eyes out so to get to chat with this man especially after just watching that in a chat with a guy who was a united states army green beret who a man who was a long snapper not only for the university of texas but had a cup of tea with the se Seattle Seahawks a man who has been pop culture relevant because of doing good things with his foundation that he started with Jay Glazer called MVP which is merging vets and players ladies and gentlemen a very handsome man a man who held the ball for me during my Guinness World Record blindfolded kick, American legend, Nate Boyer. Wow, that was impressive.

Hey, I honestly think you deserve that intro every time you walk into any room, don't you think? I want you to talk in that voice for the entirety of this. Nate, let's jump right into it, because we're going to dive into a lot of topics i'd assume yesterday uh today we're recording but this podcast won't be released until thursday um september 11th 2019 was just yesterday as a man who served in the united states military when you think of the date, September 11th, what does it do to you? What is the thought, the mindset, things that rushed to your mind, everything like that as a man who served for six years?

Well, the first thought that comes to mind is how I found out about it, which was, you know, I was living in Los Angeles at the time. I was 20 years old and working odd jobs, kind of floating through life a little bit. A lot of passion, but zero work ethic and application. And it was early in the morning, and it was like probably, I couldn't tell you the exact time, but it was around 5.30 a.m. Pacific time. I was staying in my little studio apartment. I had a Murphy bed coming off the wall. A little guy that was probably 200, 300 square feet.

Tiny, tiny place. My phone rang, and it woke me up. It was my mom. My mom doesn't call me at 5.30 in the unless something something very bad happened and uh or i was in trouble so i answered the phone and she just says turn on the television and i was like what are you talking about she said just turn on the tv and i was like okay what channel she said any doesn't matter to any channel and i turned it on and then you know i saw what we all saw i think uh think it was, I don't think the second tower had even been hit yet. But it was, you know, it just, it really shocked me, scared me, I think.

And I just didn't, I didn't think anything like that was possible. I think a lot of us felt that way. And, you know, it was just, it was one of those moments that definitely put me in a different mindset and probably changed the entire trajectory of my life. And I had no idea of it at that time. But after that, you know, the second thing that really comes to mind that I am proud of, and I guess when this, when this releases on the 12th will be uh the day that i remember is how we came together and how unified we were and how proud i was to to be american you know i mean maybe more proud than i'd ever been before i never really thought about patriotism in that way um you know

and and that is something that we desperately need right now, that feeling of unity and togetherness and kind of being there for one another when we're hurting. And you see glimpses of it with these natural disasters that have been kind of hitting us over the last decade or so. But I really remember that as just a time where we really came together as a country. I couldn't agree with you more. I've actually let off my show yesterday with that entire thing the september 12th september 13th yes absolute devastation on september 11th

2001 absolute panic by a lot of people had no clue that on american soil that could happen i think we all had the same reaction uh very sad but those next days, man, I don't know if you can bottle it. I don't know if we'll ever feel it again. But it felt like the entire country was at a cookout together. It really did. And it was such a cool thing. And then obviously us as humans and Americans, as time goes on, we figure out a way to fuck it up, obviously. And there becomes a little bit drama here and

uh ignorance there and everything like that how long after that all happened did you decide to step up and serve the country uh and join the army and and potentially and did you have the mindset that you're going to go in and be a special force a green beret because that's top of the top when it comes to the Army. Yeah, you know, I didn't join for three more years. And I kind of did what you were just talking about. I quickly sort of went back into my own personal rut. You know, not thinking about it at the time, but we all had 2,977 reasons why we could be a better human being. And we did for a little bit.

You know, we were there for each other. We were vulnerable. We were connected. We didn't care about all the differences. All we cared about was, you know, empathizing with one another, I felt like, for the most part. But I slipped. I mean, America is a great country, but it's a very comfortable place, and we have a lot of really cool shit and opportunities. And with that comes, you know, comfortability and eventually a little bit of entitlement, you know. And we're quick to whine and bitch and moan when things aren't perfect. And that's a tough one to get through. You know, it's a tough perspective to maintain, like, how fortunate we are because we all want to,

we're all hustlers, like, we want to be the best, we want to be great. And so with that comes you know frustration when things aren't on the when the wheels aren't on the track and you know for me i i think i had this like glimmer of purpose and like okay i'm going to do something about this i'm going to be i'm going to be a better man now and blah blah blah but i just i slipped back into uh comfortability and and just like no no real no real purpose no real connectedness uh felt like the world wouldn't change in any way it wasn't uh better or worse without me it was just like kind of whatever and uh and i and i and i without knowing at the time it was a you know it was a depression and It was my own depression.

And I started traveling. I started going overseas. I was backpacking in different parts of the world, just kind of exploring. I was saving my money up. And then I would go out there and just sleep in a hammock, sleep in a train, sleep in a hostel, and sort of just learn about the world a little bit. And that took me to the Darfur in Sudan in 2004. And after volunteering at the refugee camps for a couple of months,

a couple of months, it completely changed my life, my perceptions, my, I guess, my confidence that I could go do anything, that I could be a part of something great, and I could make a difference in somebody's life. And my last week in country there, I got malaria, and I was put up by this family who wouldn't take a dime from me, this local family that had absolutely nothing. And they put me in this little mud hut, and they were giving me these pills.

I was taking malaria pills, and mine didn't work, and they gave me something else. I don't know if it was for the symptoms or what. And they were trying to feed me and give me water, and it was tough to keep anything down. But they had this little radio next to the bed, and after I listened to both sides of the Bob Marley tape that they had in there about three times,

I was just done with Marley. I started flipping through the stations, and the only station that came through was the BBC, and it was like play-by-play of the second battle of Fallujah going on. And I don't know if it was just me being messed up and sick, or it just was something greater than something, you know, what am I trying to say? From the heavens? Destiny?

I don't know. Yeah, thank you. One of those words. Gotcha. It just, I knew that was what I was going to do next. I was going to join the military. So I came back to the States like, this is what I'm doing no matter what. And I started researching.

I found out about the Army Special Forces, which are the Green Berets. And they had just opened a contract the year before that you could come in off the street. And if you tested high enough on a language aptitude and, you know, psyche eval and physical chest and all this stuff, you'd get this contract. You'd go to basic training, airborne school, and pre-selection for Special Forces. And if you got through all that, then you went to Special Forces selection with the rest of the regular Army guys. And if you were selected,

then you start the year-and-a-half-long training to be a Green Beret. And I signed up with that contract, and fortunately, I just didn't quit, and it all worked out. It's not like I kicked its ass or anything, but I just hung in there. And, you know, two years after being in the Darfur,

I'm a Green Beret. Okay, so I would love to dive into the hostel and the hammocking and how it was. Yeah, that's another podcast. Yeah, I would love to talk about that. And the potential drugs that they were giving you out there. I mean, I would love to talk about all that. But before we move forward to the conversation, just because I'd like to know, because we got a chance to meet a couple Green Berets here in the office,

the 12 Strong, the horse soldiers that now have their own bourbon. And they said their motto was something like, with, over, or through. It's basically like a Democratic Special Forces almost. Is that accurate? With, over, and through. I like that one uh yeah was it uh was it was it more like um by with and through yes yeah there it is yeah hey i knew there was something there you got two out of three that's pretty good yeah but it is like you guys are known for being like

a democratic bunch like not just just being dropped in for war. Like that ability of your world traveling that you did before then and staying in a mud hut there in Sudan probably actually set you up to be a Green Beret a lot more than you could have ever imagined. Totally. Yeah, a warrior diplomat is a term we use a lot. And absolutely. I mean, we do foreign internal defense. When we go to Iraq, Afghanistan, Timbuktu, it doesn't matter.

We work with the locals. We train, advise, assist them. We also fight alongside them. Sometimes we live with them, and they become our brothers in arms as well. And through those relationships, those friendships, we're able to have a bigger impact in that area, you know. And you have to embrace the community. You have to understand what they want and care about that. And I think most people in the military do anyway.

I will say that, especially ones that are a little bit older, a little more experienced. But at another level in the Special Forces, that's what you have to be. It's 12-man teams, you know, and you're out there sometimes training hundreds and thousands of people and working with them and, you know, getting over language and cultural barriers and customs and, you know, religion barriers and all these things that can be very complicated. But when you get down to it, if you just hang out with someone and you teach them something and they teach you something and you have a conversation, you know, we are a lot more than different, similar than different.

And I think everybody knows that. We just kind of forget it. And it's easy to forget that when on the outside, nothing looks the same. But yeah, that's an important piece to that. And you're absolutely right. Like that trip there was sort of my first Special Forces mission without really knowing it, and it set me up for that. But also, like, I remember reading about what Green Berets actually do once I got back, because I had this image of Rambo with, like, you know, cigar and, like, the bullets over the shoulders, 7.62 rounds and no shirt, and it's not that at all but uh

it is very cool it's actually cooler in my opinion you guys don't get a lot uh there's not a lot of talk about green brace and i'm excited that i'm getting to learn more and more about them uh obviously very thankful for your service to our country into the world uh and after you'd had a six-year i don't want to say stint. That sounds like a career. Hey, you signed for six years. I had a cup of tea with the Army. Whenever you got out, by the way, where did you go for those six years? Where were you after you ended up joining? It wasn't the Rambo operation.

It was a much different kind of thing. Where were some places that you got dropped into to learn about? Yeah, so my first deployment was to Iraq. I went to Najaf province, which Najaf is the Shiite holy city and has the biggest cemetery in the world in it. It's right near Babylon, so where the tigers and Euphrates meet. It's within arm's length of two of the seven ancient wonders of the world. And it's amazing, but it's very different now than I think it was thousands of years ago. But the history is incredible. The history is

incredible, and a lot of the traditions really are incredible. So that was my first deployment there. And I did some other sort of non-combat missions. I went to Israel. I went to Bulgaria. I went to Greece. And then when I was back in college, when I was at University of Texas, I actually did four years in the Texas national guard at that time.

And I deployed two more times in that timeframe. And those, both of those trips were to Afghanistan. So I did three deployments in total once to Iraq and twice to Afghanistan. And that was while you just picked up football. Whenever you got back at the university of Texas, you were like, you know what?

Fuck it. I, I was kind of bumming it in LA a little bit. I don't know if you wanted to be a model actor or whatever you were trying to be in LA. You found your fulfillment, your purpose on this world trip. You became an entirely new human being. You get well-rounded.

You go through three tour or a tour and then a bunch of other stuff, and you get back. You're like, you know what? Fuck, I'm going to go play football for the University of Texas. I'm a longstop. Is that just how it went? Is that how your mind just works? Like, you know what?

Nah, fuck it. I'll go play for D1 College. I wish I was that cool about it, but, you know, the reality is, ever since I was a little kid i dreamed of of being a professional athlete you know like that was that was my thing i mean i didn't really i didn't when i was really little i was into gi joe and all that stuff but once i hit probably five years old i was obsessed with the san francisco giants the 49ers um joe montana and uh Lott and Roger Craig and Jerry Rice and Tom Rastaman. God, just tons of these guys.

They were my heroes. I was Joe Montana for Halloween two years in a row when I was five and six. And it's just something that never left me. But as I grew, I mean, I was really into baseball and basketball. And I wanted to play football when I was super young. My mom didn't want me to play. And by the time I got to high school, I was – honestly, I was too much of a pussy. I was afraid, you know, I'm going to ride the bench.

I'm going to, like, not be good enough. You know, I don't want to – I just was insecure, man. I was a 13-, 14-year-old kid, like the same, you know. We all had that moment. Some of us are that now. True. Very true. But I like, yeah.

But, yeah, so it just, but it bothered me, and it never went away, you know. I mean, literally 16 years later, it still bothered me. And I was in Iraq when I made the decision that I had an opportunity to reenlist again, and it would like, I don't know if I was going to have to go back to the schoolhouse and sort of be a trainer, which is something that everybody's supposed to do when you're in the military, and I sort of skated that one. And so that may be frowned upon by some people, but I didn't want to go to the schoolhouse and instruct.

I wanted to just deploy. And, you know what I mean? I think everybody wants that. But selfishly, I just dipped out and, you know, went to college instead and joined the National Guard. But the main reason I wanted to go to school, I didn't tell anybody at the time. The main reason I wanted to go is I just wanted to try out,

I wanted to play football. I wanted to do it. Because it never went away, that like, that regret. And I hated it because it was like the number one thing I regretted, which was kind of stupid,

but it stuck with me. And it probably affected a lot of my decisions through my teens and twenties because, you know, this fear of failure, fear of like looking stupid or whatever that stops most of us from doing what we really want to do and so i started training man i was over there in iraq and i was like i didn't know what position i was going to

play so i was like googling and youtubing drills you know and i was like i was like running routes and trying to learn how to backpedal and you started doing the Olympic lifts and putting on some weight. I weighed 165 pounds in the Army. I was very light. Then I came back. I was actually over there towards the end of my deployment. It was football season, and we watched football every chance we get. It's like 5 in the morning, and you're watching the Monday night game

because of the time difference. I just was like, I'm doing it and I'm going to go back. Initially I thought about going to a small school because I just wanted to make the team. And, you know, thank God for my buddy Brad, who unfortunately passed away in 2012. But Brad Keyes was my, you know, my big brother on the team, the guy I looked up to, my best friend.

And he told me, he's like, no, dude, if you go play football, you're going to go to a big school. And I was like, he was like, what did you play in high school? I was like, I didn't even play, dude. And he was just like, well, still, you're a Green Beret, man. You're not going to a small school. And I decided on Texas because I'd been to Austin once, and I loved it. I decided on Texas because I'd been to Austin once and I loved it. And, you know, Matt Brown had been out to, well, a bunch of coaches go out to,

you know, like a USO tour type deal. And he went out there, and I didn't meet him, but everybody that did that I, you know, knew out there was like, dude, he made the helicopter wait before it was trying to leave because he wanted to sign every autograph and shake every hand. And there's more Longhorn flags hanging in, flags hanging in barracks windows than any other team. For all those reasons, I just chose Texas and came back. The day I got out, I drove down to Austin, and the next day was the first day of school,

and the day after that was the first day of tryouts. That is awesome. I'm actually calling Mack Brown's new team, UNC, tomorrow night. Is there anything I should know about Mac Brown other than he's just an incredible individual? Man, there's a lot of things to know about Mac. He's very... He has an awesome

big charity golf tournament that he does every April that you should play. You play golf, right? You're a big golfer. I'm fucking bad. It's like I'm a good enough golfer to do well, but then that puts me in situations where i have to compete against people that actually play like i'm good but i'm not you know what i mean it's a scramble dude it's a scramble tournament but it's like it's uh it's

it's called mac jack and mcconaughey it's mac brown jack ingram famous texas country singer and matthew mcconaughey they And they put this event on two-day. I should play it. Let's get you in that one. No, it's so much fun. So definitely do it on the air so he's held accountable. But Coach Brown, I heard about this event. I would love to be a part of it because you play two amazing golf courses.

And then last year the headliner was Chris Stapleton. They have this concert, charity event. It's so much fun, dude. So anyway, I think... What's he raising money for there? What are they raising money for there? There's five local charities in Austin. All of them help kids that are underserved in the communities

or disabilities, all that kind of stuff. I mean, they raise like $3 million in two days. It's pretty amazing. Well, McConaughey makes like $ three million dollars but neither here nor there it's incredible work to donate money i appreciate that everybody says something good about mac brown though by the way everybody's it's hard to say something bad about him man you know i mean you can you know this as a football player there's always people no matter who the coach is there's always people players that don't like him. And typically it's because

they didn't play. They screwed me! You know what I mean? Yeah. Exactly. It's usually that. It's not because then you'll meet somebody else. It's like, that guy's the coolest dude in the world, you know, but it's like a personal thing. But, you know, Coach Brown is really impossible to hate. And his wife, Sally, mention his wife

Sally, because she runs the family, first of all. But she's incredible, man. Just like Coach, she remembers every single freaking player's name, every player's mom's name, everybody. I mean, they're just the real deal. That's awesome. I can't wait to do that. I'm going to meet him for the first time here coming up on today, actually.

So if you're listening to this in the afternoon, I am currently meeting Mack Brown right now, and I am making him feel terrible about not having me at his golf tournament. Hey, he beat his two, and I like both Will Muschamp and Manny Diaz, but he beat his two former defensive coordinators in his first two games at UNC, and he was probably not supposed to win either of those games. Like, I love it. UNC used to suck. Wake Forest also very underrated. I think we're in for a great game at six o'clock i've done a lot of preparation here

in the last couple hours ty's been just feeding me information i think it's going to be i think it's gonna be a barn burner the offenses are very good and i can't wait to see it happen i'm excited to be there let's move forward though with your life Boyer. My life. I wish that line by your boy Danny saying, hey, man, you're a green beret. You're not going to some fucking small school is one of my favorite lines. Brad, I'm sorry. Brad. You're good. You're good.

You're good. Brad's saying, hey, man, you are a green beret. You're not going to some D2 school. You've made it through a boot camp that not a lot of people can do. You've done things in your life that you Most people cannot do You're a special individual You go to Texas

You do well You befriend Jay Glazer Is it after that? When do you meet up with Jay Glazer? And when does the stint with the Seattle Seahawks happen? Yeah, so You know what? I just remembered one quick story about Mac.

Please do. Please do. Okay, so, backtrack real quick. So, I go to Texas. I walk on as a safety. I don't play at all because I'm just too slow, and it's really hard. It turns out football's hard. It turns out it's not super easy, especially at a D1 program.

But I was happy to be on the team. Amazing experience. I get to run down on kickoff when we're blowing somebody out. But I wanted to start. I wanted to play meaningful snaps. So I figure the starting long snappers are graduating. So there's an opportunity there. And I've never snapped before,

but that's about the only position athletically I can maybe hang in. So, you know, maybe holder, but we already had a supreme holder. And he was like, you know, he was like the seventh string wide receiver, but he was very good at holding. So that was locked down. I can't kick. So I started teaching myself how to long snap while I was overseas. And right before I went on that deployment, I went into Coach Brown's office and I said, Coach, I really appreciate the opportunity to be a part of the team. This is amazing. I'm going

overseas this summer, but I'll keep training over there and I'll be back for training camp. And he was like, yeah, of course. Don't worry about it. You're all good. I mean, it's a scout team player. He's not too concerned. He's just like, don't get shot, and we'll see you in August. And so, and this is like in April. And I told him, well, Coach, you know, I just started long snapping recently. I started kind of messing around with it. And I'd love to, you know, have an opportunity to compete for the position in training camp. And he was just like, okay, have you ever long snapped before?

And I was like, coach, I never played football before I got here. And he didn't know that. I kind of kept that sort of secret for a while. So he was just like, well, yeah, sure. You know, get back here. You know, we'll let you try it. And I'm sure in his mind he was like, are you kidding me? Like, you're not going to figure this out in three months um but i go over there i bring a couple

footballs with me and i snap every day and uh you know come back and sure enough he lets me try out for the position and um and i win the backup job they didn't want to start me because they were just like like you never played never snapped in a game it's a different thing oh yeah um and they'd recruited this kid to do it, you know, so they got this like, you know, six rank long snapper in the country, like recruited in. And so, you know, first game out there, he, he, he, I mean, he's an 18 year old kid. It's 101,000 people. It's a different deal. He, you know, has a couple of not great snaps.

And coach Brown ended up being the one sort of fighting for me. Obviously, he makes the ultimate decisions, but it's the special teams coordinator's call, too. He was the one sort of advocating for me. So that Wednesday, we had a snap-off at practice, and whoever was the most accurate got the start on on saturday and um i started that second game and then the next 37 after that until i graduated but it was because of mac i don't think there's there's i i i i would be hard you'd be hard pressed to find a head coach that

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can't wait i'm gonna be a star here has a rough start and then mac brown tells him hey man on wednesday uh you're gonna have a snap off against a special forces guy like hey you're gonna have uh you're gonna have to see if you're mentally tougher than a guy that was a green beret and that kid had no shot i'm happy mac brown gave you a chance and me too you because it's just it's awesome it's a cool story mostly because we live in an era and i think it does get overblown sometimes it seems like everybody wants everybody to fail these days it seems like everybody's waiting for everybody to kind of fail everybody's waiting for a reason to take somebody down to hear a story

about a guy who was down and then find his purpose and then stay motivated and keep moving it's a cool thing to hear nate i i appreciate the hell out of that story you get to the seahawks you get to the seattle seahawks you're in training camp it was a cool story it was like hey this guy didn't play in high school he got to play texas three tours he's done a lot for our country it was kind of like a i don't want to say it was kind of like it was a real life potential like movie it was a real life potential opportunity for a movie there you get to the seahawks you snap for a little bit it doesn't work out and then you become this voice of reason almost from not only from the military and moving

forward but for a lot of social things that were happening did you expect to do all this or is this just like you kind of you end up in these situations and you're like why not me why don't i be the guy that kind of does this stuff yeah i mean that situation in particular you know the uh um you know the the open letter to kaepernick and and sort of um being i don't want to say pulled in because i made the decision. I volunteered to speak my mind and was willing and able and happy to sit down with him when he asked me to meet him. But I would never in a million years imagine I'd be in the middle of this social justice conversation.

I didn't really know much about all this stuff, you know, and the history of all kinds of things, you know, from the anthem itself to, you know, kind of the real history of the civil rights movement and stuff like that. And then where we are now and having to kind of really swallow my pride and approach all these conversations with, like, a real open-minded humility. And we talk about open-mindedness a lot these days. And I think it always gets categorized as, like, a liberal thing, where patriotism is, like, a conservative thing. You know what I mean? That is true. patriotism is like a conservative thing. You know what I mean? And in reality, like,

neither of those viewpoints kind of owns open mindedness. It should be everybody should be open minded. I mean, some of the most closed minded people I've met are lean left and some of the most unpatriotic, in my opinion, people lean right. And so I was just trying to be both of those things. I was trying to just listen and learn and be a part of that conversation. Like you said, be a voice of, of reason. And, and I don't speak for the military community and I never want to pretend to, you know, to be like the, the veteran that, that just knows what's right and wrong because I don't, um, I was just trying to, uh, you know, hear the other side, whatever side that was, and find some common ground and bring us together, just like, unfortunately, something as tragic as 9-11 did.

The thought that you, some people, would think whenever you get involved in this, because you, by the way, diehard 49ers fan growing up, so this really hit home for you, I'd assume. But the thought that people were like ah this fucking guy thinks he knows everything he doesn't speak for me then any boy got in i couldn't even imagine the backlash that you received because the colin kaepernick anthem um i don't want to say movement is still being talked about by the way that we are years years years later literally year year years later and it's still being talked about by the way that we are years years years later literally year year years later and it's still being talked about and i do believe it raised a great discussion for our

country to have it tore a lot of people apart with the branding uh because of ignorance on both sides i believe i think it should have been explained much earlier to the people that were against it and for it that hey this is what we're trying to do here this isn't a disrespect to the military thing that's where i think a lot of communication got lost there and i think that could have been handled earlier in the whole discussion but the thought that you're a part of a pretty monumental situation in the history of the nfl i mean that's something you should be proud of i think i don't think it should be the other way i think it's something you should be proud of you've made your mark on a league that you were a fan of as a child in the league that will survive longer than us and it was here before us yeah that's true i i uh i appreciate

that man and you know out of it i was i was fortunate to be a part of a of a show last year called indivisible where um i sort of acted as a as a wannabe uh poor man's version of Anthony Bourdain. But, you know, went around different NFL cities and met with community leaders and players and former players and talked about all this stuff. You know, tried to have these discussions, get people down to speak about it. And it's a tough thing because I get, trust me, I get more than or as much as anybody what an escape football is.

And sometimes it's like we just want to watch the game. We just miss football. It's like that was something that we got away from all these discussions. But to your point, it did spark a very important conversation, and we have to address it. We have to talk about it. And why not be able to do that through something that's as uniting as football? Like, I think that's a great opportunity.

And, you know, we're going to do this show again this year. We're going to at least Miami, New Orleans, New York, and Cleveland, maybe some other cities. And it's pretty cool to be able to, like, to sort of do that and just continue to listen and learn. I mean, it's all about learning for me because I'm really like, I don't, I'm pretty naive in a lot of ways.

I really am. And I think that helps me. I think the naivety when it came to being a green beret or, you know, trying out for Texas, like if I, if I, if I knew too much or thought I knew too much,

I probably never would have tried to do it. And I think that helps me on this journey of just trying to discover and learn and approach all these conversations and situations with sort of an empty slate, with not a ton of preconceived opinions because I just hadn't thought about a lot of this stuff in the past. Because I hadn't thought about a lot of this stuff in the past. So, yeah, it's something that's – the debate, the conversation is definitely not going away, but hopefully more solutions arise out of this. And I think a lot have. I think there's a lot of players in the league, a lot of police departments around the country that have changed policies, changed the way they view things,

changed policies, changed the way they view things, worked together in those communities to try to improve these relations with underserved communities and law enforcement. And a lot of times through sports. Just in L.A., now it's the Watts Rams. It was the Watts Bears. There's a youth football team that's coached by LAPD officers, and they built the team. And it was all kids that, a lot of them didn't have fathers, didn't have much of a future in their eyes. And these LAPD officers, in their free time, they're not getting paid to do

it, they started coaching this thing. And a lot of people in the community were against it. A lot of other cops were like, what are you doing? You're wasting your time wasting your time and these guys said no i'm just going to do this because it's the right thing to do and i want to try to change things and uh and just this year the rams um made the partnership official with their team and they brought these kids out like i mean literally like game day jerseys helmets all this stuff and are like a part of that and just to see these kids that start in this league at eight years old and now they're like finishing high school, going to college, doing things that they probably wouldn't do if it wasn't for these officers.

So there's all these good things happening. We just don't hear enough about them. Yeah, that's awesome. That's absolutely incredible. It's so cool, man. And it's happening all over the country. It is. I think so, too.

I think we're inching towards perfection. There's been a lot of lumps in our country, and I think the anthem and the kneeling was a wildly hot conversation and argument starter for a while, but I think it's ultimately going to lead to great things for everybody, and I think you played a vital role for that. Let's move forward. Yes, sir.

As a kid who was just backpacking around the country, living in a 300-square-foot apartment, could you imagine that one day you and a little spark plug of a man who happens to know a lot of insider information would start a foundation that would take care of vets and american heroes while linking them up with professional athletes and musicians in creating a community for military uh to kind of feel like they're whole again after they serve. And your MVP foundation that is happening with Jay Glazer is something that's magical. How did your friendship with Jay Glazer start, and what is the goal of the MVP foundation?

Yeah, I never would have imagined that, like really. Just like I mentioned, I couldn't imagine being involved in a social justice conversation. I couldn't imagine being involved in a social justice conversation. I couldn't imagine being a Green Beret and actually making that kid's dream come true of getting a shot in the NFL. But when I came out, I came out to LA after I graduated. I had to finish, I had to do an internship to finish up my degree or my master's degree so i did an internship uh with peter berg who's a you know filmmaker um makes a lot of military and football related content and um i i i i matt nate you're gonna say something good there uh i don't want to interrupt you

peter berg no probably a great guy probably a great guy makes great content uh just completely blew off our show so i just had to make sure i had to make sure that i got that don't worry about hey hey you got a master's degree from a guy that's awesome i just had to make sure that that is no he didn't he didn't give me a master's degree you earned it you earned it you earned it anyways i'm sorry yeah no no you're good you're good yeah. Well, maybe this will change his heart. Oh, Nate Boyer bringing people together. I like what you're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just be positive, man. So, yeah. So I came out here to do that. But I also played in a senior all-star game. And some of the scouts there were like, you should make a run at the NFL. You should give it a shot. I mean, I was 34 years old. But they were like, dude, you a run at the NFL. You should give it a shot. I was 34 years old, but they were like,

dude, you can snap. You're going to have to put some weight on, but you should give it a go. So I come out to L.A. and I'm like, I need to find a place to train. And I hit up a guy I think you might know named Matt Overton. Oh, Mattio. Mattio.

I hit up Matt. He was the only NFL snapper I knew. And I was like, hey, dude, I'm coming out to L.A. Do you know where I should train? He's like, bro, there's only one place. Unbreakable Performance Center. Jay Glazer, Jay Glazer's gym. And I was like, awesome, man. Who's Jay Glazer? And he was like, he was like, you know who he is. He's like, uh, Google him. And I looked it up. I'm like, oh yeah, that guy, a little spark plug of a man. Just as you mentioned. Um, but, yeah, that guy. A little spark plug of a man. Yeah, he is. Just as you mentioned. Yeah. But, yeah, so I walk into the gym. I show up, and I meet him. And there was a Marine there who was one of the trainers,

and he started kind of training me and saying, like, who is this guy? And he came up and started talking to me and told him my story, and he's, like, looking at my chin and the gray in my beard. And he's just like, you just graduated college? And I explained the whole thing to him, and, you know, he started training me. And draft day rolls around, and I had, you know, it was the St. Louis Rams at the time. The St. Louis Rams and the Seattle Seahawks, you know, both reached out and wanted to sign me. And he was like, dude, you've got to go to Seattle, man.

He was friends with John Schneider and all that. I think he put a few good words in for me there. So that's why I ended up going up there. And then when I got cut, I played in one preseason game. And that's just how that shit goes. And I was obviously an underdog. But I did well. Did everything I could.

So no regrets on that. But I come back to L.A., and I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do next. I'm considering going back in the military, to be honest, because I just was like, I didn't want to sit around and wait for something to happen. And that's when Jay approached me about this. He'd been wanting to start a foundation. wait for something to happen. And that's when Jay approached me about this. He'd been wanting to start a foundation. He'd been wanting to do something with athletes, but involving veterans. You know, we started having conversations about it. And the thing that stuck out to us was

just like the similarities in how difficult that transition can be. You know, losing the identity with the uniform, the locker room, the team, the purpose, very physical in nature, both of those jobs, especially as special operations vets and like, you know, MMA fighters, football players, hockey players, some of these real physical jobs. And then it was like, you know, I was 34 and that's very old to be finishing your career as a special operations veteran or a football player. A lot of these guys are a lot younger. A lot of them, some of these young Marines, they join at 17,

and they're out at like 21, 22, and they've done all these incredible, crazy things, and then they come back into the real world, and it's just tough to get yourself going and find your niche and feel like you belong. And that's the number one the number one creditor unfortunately to suicide and there's 22 veterans a day that are taking their own lives and it's happening to athletes as well you know we all think oh they make a lot of money they're

playing a game how bad can life be but it's like it's tough to understand that the sacrifice has to go in to be an elite to playing at that level. I'm not comparing war to playing a sport, but when you no longer have that team and that uniform and that locker room, it is very challenging. It's really hard. So there's that mutual respect between the two groups. So we brought these guys together. We train on a weekly basis at Unbreakable here in L.A.

Most of the first vets we brought to the gym were like these six dudes that were living in a homeless shelter on Sunset Boulevard. Speaking of a movie, I wrote a script about that. We're going to make this damn movie. You're probably going to be in it, Pat. Hey, I'll get in shape if you need me.

I'll take all the steroids if you need me to get that. That's not what this movie is at all. But anyway. I didn't know. There's a gym, there's vets. You just let me know if you need me to look better I'll try to figure it out

just for a reason but I mean and then we were the guys that Jay brought in you know like his little crews like Michael Strahan and Tony Gonzalez and Randy Couture and Chuck Liddell like these guys are coming in training with these vets

they're living in a homeless shelter they feel like they just nobody gives a shit and they don't matter anymore and you know their best years are behind them and they're like in their 20s maybe 30s and it's like it wasn't like an opinion these guys weren't making an appearance these athletes they weren't coming in to like you know shake their hands and just say thanks thanks for your service. It was like, we're going to work out together. We're going to actually talk about our struggles very openly. And, you know, one that always sticks out to me with Tony Gonzalez, you know, he comes in and shares a story that he'd never shared with anybody except his wife, just talking about three months after he was retired. And he knew he was going to have a broadcasting career. He knew he'd be in the hall of fame, you know, in four years or whatever, and all those things. But he was out to dinner with her. They went, they went out to Italy on

vacation, just them two. And like, he was just not himself. She could tell he was distant. I think she was probably worried, you know, that their marriage was on the rocks or whatever. And he like broke down at dinner and just started crying. And she was like, what is wrong with you? You know? And he just said, I, uh, I've peaked and i'll never be great again you know and i know that and it's i'm 37 years old and uh that's really hard to you know to come to grips with and and it just like he had not released you know he had not talked about it you know and he said like that that release of that emotion and just like speaking those words just helped him monumentally, just admitting this is where he was at.

And that's what we kind of do in the gym. I mean, we train together, and then we talk about those stories. And we talk about the good stuff too and like triumphs that we're having now. But when we're struggling with stuff and when anniversaries of fallen brothers roll around and stuff like that, that's the time to be with our brothers. That's the time to do something together, to celebrate those lives, not to isolate and run away from all that stuff, because it doesn't go away.

And when you kill yourself, man, I've had plenty of brothers do it. I had a girl that I used to date, not in the military, that did that. And the pain doesn't go away. It just gets passed on. And we don't want to – we've got enough burdens as it is just being human beings, man. It's already – life's already hard. And that just makes it even harder. And so we don't want that to be an option.

We've got to do something about that. And it's all about community and just making sure everyone understands that they belong, they matter, and they've still got a lot to give this world. Man, it's incredible work you're doing, sir. Absolutely incredible work. Thank you, brother. The Marine was Gabe. Gabe was the Marine over there?

Yeah, that's right. Gabe and I, by the way, very handsome. He is a good good looking dude. Big ears, but a good looking dude. Big ears, small hands. Good looking dude. He was a sniper, if I do recall correctly with the Marines, but I was with him one night in Los Angeles. And it was an anniversary of a passing of a friend of his. And the conversation that he and I had that night, kind of opened my eyes to what everything happens.

Right? Because it was a tough night for him. Is it and I just so happened to be literally the only person in the area. I'd met him probably a month before that we'd hung out a lot. And it was like listening to him kind of just like obviously had a couple of drinks. We had a couple of drinks together. But like listening to him just like let it out. It was like I learned so much. I learned so much that night. And I was like, God damn, man.

I hope there's a way that you can grieve with this because I have no idea what you're going through right now. I wish you could. It seems like this MVP is the perfect way to do that. Can't thank you enough for what you're doing, not only for yourself, but for everybody. My boys here have been listening to this entire conversation. We have a Marine here. He's a little bit older of a man. There's some questions.

Do you mind if the room asks some questions, man? Oh, me? No, shoot. You're the best. Hey, Nate, it seems like you've put together a pretty simple plan

for success. You just, I don't know why more people don't do it. Green Berets, learn football on YouTube, make a Division I roster. Play the NFL.

Yeah, train in the summers in Afghanistan as a National Guard member. Pat mentioned it would be an incredible movie and I assume

if anyone were to ever make a movie about you, Peter Berg would make the movie. But who would you pick? We don't know. But who would you pick in Hollywood to play yourself? Oh, man. I mean, you know, he's a supporter of MVP,

and he's a really good dude. And his right-hand man was a Navy SEAL who's actually a cool Navy SEAL, which is very rare. But just kidding. Chris Pratt, man. But it had to be soon. He's getting up there. He's in his 40s. I love Chris Pratt, dude.

He'd crush it. He's not quite good-looking enough, but he's pretty cool. That's awesome. People say me and Chris Pratt look awfully similar. If you're thinking about it. Yeah, that's what I said. Not quite good looking enough. Nate, you talked about how you were in your 30s playing in college.

There's a lot of these Australian kickers who are now in their 30s and upper 20s playing in college. What's it like playing with kids who are 10 years younger than you and you're on campus with all these kids?'s what's that situation like is it lit um in the in the locker room it was just i mean we don't really mature in a lot of ways past 19 like let's be honest um so in the locker room like you know not a lot of issue i mean some stuff yeah like you know it's just gotta have that perspective and understanding that like you were that same 19 year old dickhead you know what i mean like and and a lot of times i still am so

like i think understanding that you know helped school was like uh i definitely had uh challenges with uh coming back every summer and like just being angry man you build up a lot of anger um on deployments and being a war and stuff like that. You just do like, it's just part of the process and coming back. And it's like, you know, you're sitting in the back of the classroom and like everybody's there, they're in class cause they take attendance maybe in that class, but they're just all on Facebook and not paying attention. And like,

you know, that was a, that was things I would get frustrated with, but I'm just like, dude, like you're the same. I'm the same guy because I'm, I'm thinking about other stuff. I'm doing other stuff. I'm not like sitting in the front row, taking notes. You know what I mean? Um, it was just, it's just, uh, little things like that, you know, or, or going, I would, I would go, um, we had some guys on the team that were in fraternities, and they would come out to the frat house, come out to the house, man, come on. And I'm like, all right, fine. So I'd go out there, you know, and then there'd be, like, some girl out there that's just like, you know,

how old are you? Oh, my God. I just, whatever, you know. I'm 50. But for the most part, dude, I loved it, man. Austin's a great city. Yeah, I'm 51. No, but I loved Austin.

I love UT. And, I mean, it's a very, obviously, Texas is very supportive of the veteran community and the military. And so, like, by and large, I mean, I was super welcomed. And, you know, most of the kids were not just kids. I mean, it's a good school. There's a lot of smart people there and a lot of mature people. And especially on the football team, man, like, those guys, you know,

they're getting ridiculed right out the gate, you know. The first minute they step on campus, if they, like, you know, have a rough training camp or whatever it's just like oh this guy would he was a five star what a waste you know we we just blew it on this guy what an idiot you know he sucks all this terrible stuff and they just have to like they read that crap you know um and they got to move past it so uh for the most part man it was like no issue there i mean just little things yeah you don't think about like i started thinking about it during the game i was calling yeah like matt said something about desmond ritter or somebody missing a play or missing a throw and in my head i was like yeah i should have completed that throw

and then as i was going to pile on i was like man this dude's like 19 years old this kid does not deserve me just tearing him down right now but it happens that's real life This kid does not deserve me just tearing him down right now. But it happens. That's real life. As confident as he looks, he's literally shitting his pants. You know, that is happening. Nick, what's up?

Nate, it seems like you've accomplished every goal or objective you've set for yourself in incredible fashion. I'd like to know what's next. What's one big thing you have that you would like to accomplish in the coming years? Man, I mean, I'm back in L.A. I'm working in film and TV. I want to have my own production company. I've already got it named. What is it?

But I know exactly what I want to do. So I hope nobody steals this because I haven't, like, you know. We'll dump it. What do you call it? We'll trademark it. That's trademark. trademarked it that's trademark it's patent pending trademark all that yeah yeah if somebody steals it from the green beret go fuck yeah yeah no i'll go after him because we got it on tape right now um so do you know what the class six is oh i know two at least two guys in that room know what the class six is does everybody else in in the on this podcast understand what do you guys know what i mean i don't know what it means uh do you guys know what i mean no i'll explain it to the dumbasses so i would never have known this i was in the military

so in you know on a military base you've got class one through like 10 and you know one of them is like rations one of them is like and you know ammunition one of them is uh uh whatever every you know uh just what am i trying to say equipment they have all these different like classes where like that's the department you go to for that thing yeah well class six is technically sundries but everybody in the military knows the class 6 as a liquor store because that's what they sell there. That's the number one seller in the Class 6. It's not called the ABC store. It's not called 7-Eleven. It's called the

Class 6 on every military base. So the production company will be Class 6 but when it comes up on screen in like that Tarantino like 80s retro red bleeding into orange, bleeding into yellow, grainy, whatever,

the words will, like, slide together, and the S's will overlap, and it'll say classics with an X at the end. Oh. It's pretty cool, dude. I mean, come on. But, yeah. Yeah, classics productions, man.

But I want to, yeah, I want to have, that's what I want to do. And it doesn't have to be just mine, but I want to be a part of that. And I don't want to make just military content. I want to make all kinds of stuff. But I want to focus on having more veterans involved in this industry, especially behind the camera. Because I've been on enough of these big sets now to know it's like it's like a military training operation everybody we've got chain of command everybody's got their different

departments um you gotta you gotta be ready for sudden change um you know you get weather you get something goes wrong like you got to be able to completely adjust and um you know uh improvise adapt overcome all those things we talk about in the military. And I just, I think we would make some great stuff, you know what I mean? And as long as you've got great creative ideas and people that are willing to work with each other, stay in your lane while being prepared to help the man on your left and right, just like we did on the battlefield, like, we would crush it. And we'd do everything cheap because that's how we are. We would find a way to cut corners here and there

and throw our military cards in everybody's face, stuff like that. There is so much wasted money on those productions. I know. It's next level in the amount of bureaucracy. I assume you cut through that. Excited to see how classics works. Ty Schmidt. It's a ways off, but it's going to see how classics works. Ty Schmidt. It's a ways off, but it's going to happen.

No, it'll work. Everything you say you're going to do, you end up doing, Nate. So I have 100% faith in that. Ty Schmidt, big movie guy. I think he's a big Tarantino fan as well. I am. Nate, piggybacking off that, considering you were a soldier and you've been to war before, what's your take on how realistic war is portrayed in movies? It's case by case, and it's really hard to super accurately portray.

I don't even know if you'd want to because as it gets too real, it can be hard to watch. Of course, you don't want to trigger people also. So that's like a, that's a fine line to sort of tap into. I mean, I think the most important thing is making sure the characters are correct and like the dialogue is correct. You know what I mean? Because there's certain stuff you just, I don't know if you want to kind of go there

with everything, with all the senses that you really feel in that moment. But, yeah, it's getting a lot better, I think, because the more they have not just tech advisors on these projects, but veterans involved at various stages in the writing room, some of them on screen, it helps all those projects. So, I mean, I like a lot of military movies. I've always got an issue with something. But, I mean, name a doctor who watches any doctor show or doctor movie that's not going to just pick apart the whole thing

or whatever the profession is, like a movie, you know, in a courtroom. Like, they're going to just be like, that's BS, that's BS, that's stupid, never would say that. I mean, you could do that all day long. But as long as they're trying to be accurate with it, and the more that films are objective as far as politics go, I enjoy. Like, I don't want you to inject, I don't want to be injected with some, like, you know,

a writer's opinion on, like, why the war was wrong or right or whatever. Like, if it's about the soldiers, if it's about the military, if it's about the unit, like, that's not, we don't get in the weeds on that stuff. Take it easy, Oliver Stone. How about the sergeant walking in? Well, since the government just made a law that doesn't allow us to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

we're going to do this. That is, they do sneak those in there just in such a clever little place. Lone Survivor made me feel as if i was potentially in like that was the closest i felt like is that accurate am i accurate with that one that's peter berger it's a good it's a good it's a good move it's peach dude so i don't know if you want to give him that god darn it um this next guy has a beautiful mind z Zito Hey, Mr. Brewer I want to thank you for your service, first and foremost Atta boy, Zito

And I want to say that one of the coolest people that watch the Texas games is Matt McConaughey Do you have any good stories about him? About, wait, who? McConaughey, yeah Yeah, McConaughey's classic So, first of all, every time I've been around him, he's got a red man in his jaw. Nice. Get nice.

And you can't see it, but you can smell it. And you just know. But, you know, I'm trying to think, man. There's just so many good ones. Oh, wow. I have so many McConaughey stories. He's just so many good ones uh i have so many mcconaughey stories he's just he's just he's just hilarious but uh you know when you when you introduce him to somebody like i was down on the field for a game and um you know and i introduced him to a couple of people uh that

were down there with me they're like i want to meet mcconaughey i want to meet mcconaughey so i'd go up and you know and introduce them and, and I'd say their name and whatever, and he just turns around and looks them in the eye and goes, McConaughey, and puts his hand out and shakes his hand. That's it. That's it. But, no, man, he's great. He's hilarious.

I don't think he is a real coach. I think he might think that he is. He actually is. I've seen him on the – obviously in the football games, he's right down in there. Oh, he also does the damn hook-em sign backwards all the time. It drives a lot of people nuts. He does the rock-and-roll thing instead of the horns out.

No, but during the basketball – it was a basketball game i think last year and i mean he's an actor so obviously he knows how to play the part he knows how to look and walk the walk and he's wearing he's wearing the suit and it's like a timeout on the floor and you know coaches are huddled around coaches sitting in a chair uh shockers you, got the chalkboard out or whatever, and McConaughey's got, you know, his arms folded but with, like, one hand up against his face, you know, kind of like in deep thought, and he's, like, circling the huddle there, sort of thinking about, like, what an assistant coach would be doing, like, walking that walk. And then he puts his arms, his hands on the small of the back of a couple of players

and leans into the huddle and kind of looks at it, you know, and then they whistle out of the timeout, you know, and he's patting guys on the head and on the butt and kind of walking back to the bench, rolling back to the bench. No commentary, no words of encouragement, just like, you know, what do we need to do to stop these guys? You know, I really need to, like, break this down. Like, I know I've got a pearl of wisdom to throw at shock.

I'm just going to find the exact scheme that's going to get this thing done. And it's just so funny because I'm just like, I don't even know. I remember watching How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days and listening to his commentary during the – he's watching a Knicks game on TV or something, or in the thing, and it's just like, I mean, it's probably bad writing too, but I'm just like, dude, this guy,

I don't know if he really knows what basketball is. What the heck is going on here? Nobody says any of those things you're saying right now. Is he just trolling? So he's on the sideline of the football game with the hat on, and they're zooming in on him, and he gave the classic fuck. On the basketball game, he was telling people to stand up on the bench he walked over with his suit on was telling players yeah that's right so is he just trolling over there he's just

trolling everything no i mean he you know he's the minister of culture at the university of texas that is his official his official title and uh you know, he teaches classes over there. And he's just trying to, you know, get that Texas attitude back, you know, injected in the players and keep everybody excited. And, you know, there may be a line, but McConaughey can cross it. He can do whatever he wants. I mean, you know. Foxy, what do you got?

Yeah, Nate, I'll keep it simple. I just want to know who you think's going to win the super bowl this year i like it patriots yep is it i don't even think it's a question i mean yeah i've said this a couple times this week because it is such a hilarious stat the super bowl this year is on Groundhog's Day. And it just feels as if, yes, it's all just coming together for them. But there's a lot of great teams. Clinton Portis broke it down yesterday on the radio show. There's a lot of great teams. Kansas City Chiefs picked up with Sean McCoy.

They got great. All of a sudden, the New Orleans Saints are back. They can't be heartbroken yet again, can they? The Rams made it up. It does feel like it's Patriots here, though. Yeah. It would be very cool to see Tom and Drew one more time. You know what I mean?

That would be really cool. And I would have to pull for Drew. You know, you got to if you're not a Patriots fan. But, yeah, I mean, if I were to pick two right now, it's obviously super early, but I would say, yeah, Saints and Pats in the Super Bowl. I mean, those are the best two teams, I think, if I were to pick two right now, it's obviously super early, but I would say, yeah, Saints and Pats in the Super Bowl. I mean, those are the best two teams, I think, in the league anyway. Agreed.

All right, last guy here, and then we'll send you on your way. Thank you so much for your time, by the way, Nate. Not only in the military, but here chatting today. Your story is an incredible one. I think people will enjoy it. This last guy is from Canada, so go ahead and take that with whatever you need to do. His name is Gumpy. Hey, Nate, you were in the movie Den of Thieves. i'm just wondering if anybody on the cast you were really close with

um i don't know about really close i mean i was only i was out there for about two or three weeks for that um you know i i do have a funny story from i mean okay so uh published driver is awesome dude um he plays merriman in that and actually drive baller's super cool i didn't have any I do have a funny story from... I mean, okay, so Pablo Schreiber is an awesome dude. He plays Merriman in that. And actually, Gerard Butler is super cool. I didn't have any scenes with him, but, you know, he gives you... That's PS I love you guy? Multiple shout-outs. He's a good dude, man.

What did you say? That's PS I love you guy. That's right. It's the PS I love you guy. It sure is. Yeah, he's good. He's good. Yeah. He's a sexy man, too. I'm not going to lie, man. He's right. It's the PS, I love you guys. Sure is. Yeah, he's good. He's good. He's hard to, yeah.

He is a sexy man, too. I'm not going to lie, man. He is charming. Agreed. Especially when he's writing letters from the grave. But, oh, jeez. But, oh, so on set, so during one of the scenes, I'm like, I'm walking down, I'm like playing the Secret Service guard at the Federal Reserve, right? So I'll just be protecting all this money that gets stolen. So I obviously suck at my job.

But I'm like strolling down and 50 Cent is undercover, you know, dressed up in a, like an armored, like, what do they call it? The armored truck, you know, guard uniform or whatever. And he's like sitting there and, you know, I walked by him a few times in the scene and, and we run it again and the director's like, hey, you know, when you walk by him, sort of nod at him and, you know, maybe say something or whatever. The director was super cool, by the way. I got to give a shout out to Christian Dudigast, man. Awesome guy.

And he was just like, he wanted me to be in that just because of my background. Like, I don't know what I'm doing acting-wise, but good guy. Good guy. But he was like, so, okay. So, I was like, all right. So, I walk out. The next time I walk by, I start whistling that P-I-M-P song. You know what I mean?

Like, whistling, I don't know if that's the name of the song, but that, you know, what you heard about me. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I was just trying to catch it right there. I haven't heard that song in a long time. Great song. Yeah, it was good. So I'm like doing it, and I could see the cameraman

behind the camera out of the corner of my eye like kind of nodding like, yes. And we go by 50 or 50 whatever curtis um we go go by you know i kind of stroll by him doing that and he just like i don't even know if his face is on camera they didn't even use the take anyway but he kind of like looks at me and then sort of squints like motherfuck you serious the stink eyes i go by and i was just like, so I just did it once. Next time I'm like, yeah, I'm not doing that again.

Goat, goat, goat. That's what you should have done the next time. That whole album is a banger, by the way. He should have been proud of it and thankful for that. Nate, I can't thank you enough, man, for taking the time today. This has been a hell of an interview. We've been to a lot of places here. Social justice, Iraq, Afghanistan, the NFL,

fulfillment, class six, which is going to be one of the greatest production companies ever created. I don't know if Peter Berg will ever answer your phone call. He didn't answer ours. But Nate, thank you for everything you've done. I hope the MVP Foundation continues to thrive and continues to take care

of people. From all of us over here and to you, man, thank you for everything. You're the absolute greatest. Ladies and gentlemen, follow him on social media at? Nate Boyer, 37. Is that your number? 37 is your number? Yeah, that was my college number, man.

I respect it. It was given, not requested. You know how it is. Once I got that, I was like, you know what? This is perfect, man. This is the one nobody wanted, just like me. And I got it anyway. I stole it.

That's awesome. My number was 40 in college. Rich Rodriguez gave that to me as well. They wanted me to change it. I said, nope. That is my GPA, obviously, and my favorite drink. Let's go ahead and keep it moving. And that's what I remained with.

And they actually, the next couple kickers used it. And I don't think they had it the same reason as I did. Just house and 40s and Mad Dog 2020s is a pretty good little run. But, Nate, I wish I was your teammate. You would have been an absolute gem to be around on a daily basis. Thank you, brother. That's not true at all, but I appreciate the comment anyway.

Are you just a fucking asshole? Yeah, pretty much. Well, you deserve it. You're allowed to do whatever you want to do, man. Ladies and gentlemen, at NateBoyer37. Thank you, dude. Thank you, guys guys he was amazing amazing incredible yeah blew me away did not know how long that conversation was

going to be i did not know how long he was booked for i had no idea what to expect going in there that was incredible a remarkable story please send him a tweet thanking him uh and please send a tweet to at viva lazito after this and either tell him this upcoming reading from him was great or terrible you can see see me in it uh whatever you say to him whether it's a motivational speech to read better or a something to knock him down if i laugh you can win some free merch ladies and gentlemen a reading by zito thank you pat oh there's chocolate on it he has not looked at the ad read yet until that moment right there for those that are new to the show uh i want zito to do a reading at my wedding that is coming up

uh sam very against it because he has about a second to third graders level ability of reading. I think fifth grade. No, no, back in the day. Not anymore now. Thank you. So we started this reading by Zito to improve his reading abilities in front of other people.

And honestly, his last one he did was his best one yet. Is there anywhere else to go but down from here? We'll find out right now. Good luck. He just got his eyes on the ad read for the first time thank you pat again jesus get to it all right listeners you hold poker i am holding something awesome in my hand right now but I'm not telling you what it is. Okay. You have to guess. All right.

Start describing the problem. Got it. Okay. It's ice cold. Okay. Like a corpse. Oh, wow. What was that?

Like a corpse. Okay. Okay. Some people are afraid of it and think it's for satan worshippers oh what are you what are you holding over there i don't know it would hurt really bad if you lost a bet and had to shove it up your ass whoa whoa whoa was woe in there or is that just your natural reaction to the words that came out of your mouth that was insane yeah uh that's you making there's a giant golden skull on it giant what's golden golden a giant golden skull oh there's a seagull and then there's a golden bird

and that uh it has a good skull that they put right on there correct Correct. All right. It could be repurposed as a device for smoking drugs. Whoa. Whoa. It's actually one of my new favorite things. What? Gumpy.

Gumpy, take it easy back here. It came from the mountains. It might actually help clean up pollution. A cop stopped me for walking around with it in public.

I fucking love the looks my kids get when they bring it to school. Don't have kids. Alternative. It was confiscated from my kid's backpack. Are we getting to it at any point? Yeah, there's four more. Five more. Jesus.

A few psychos actually have it tattooed on their body. Really? It's actually responsible for more deaths a year than serial killers. What? I don't know what's going here we should probably not read that one next time yeah my chances that one of those is like pick your favorite two or three of these 37 options i didn't get that far uh let me read it uh start describing the product without actually saying the brand name or the fact that it's oh i can't say that part because

i'd ruin it make it sound like it's a mystical thing using random facts. A mystical, like... Danger! Like mystical the rapper or mythical? Shake your ass. It says mystical. There's no H. Really? Yeah, so I'm thinking of me saying golden like that was mystical.

But watch yourself! Show me what you're working with! He did something terrible, didn't he? Yeah. I actually don't know. I don't know. Just a blunt, yeah. Just answering a question that he has no clue about. It's metal

as fuck! You could get some for free if you literally sell your soul. Some of you would be so grounded if your parents found it. I'm gonna call some action real quick. Atta boy. Sounds pretty cool, right? Yeah.

Oh, sorry. No, yeah, I was just answering your question. Oh, yeah. But like I said, I'm not telling you what it is. You'll have to find out yourself by going to whatthefuckisthisshit.com slash XXX. I think it's Pat, maybe. I don't know. Light switch. Let's see. dot com slash xxx I think it's Pat maybe. I don't know. Light switch.

Christ. And you'll even get 6.66% off if you decide to buy it. That's whatthefuckisthatshit.com slash this. Is it this shit or that shit? shit that's pretty important hey that's a pretty important part of the whole thing back to the top no no please do not just right back to

your action calling that's what the fuck it oh that's what the fuck is this shit dot com slash pat what the fuck is this shit dot com slash pat thank you zito uh you can get 6.6 off if you purchase from what's the website Zito oh what the is that this dot com he's the worst uh that's what Sam's gonna say on the wedding day I do do what this product is it's great it is really really good it's delicious I'm not kidding don't go away I'm not I'm just saying delicious uh that's a describing word my friend yeah but a lot of things can be delicious. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's modest. A lot of things can be delicious. Anyways, although that was an insane ad read for a company, the actual product is very good. It is very good.

It would have showed up at the office. I had a lot of questions. Whenever we were given that ad read, I had even more questions. And then the product showed up and i was i tried it and i was like not bad hey whatever the guy gotta do whatever they gotta do speaking of if you're listening to this on thursday we are currently in winston salem north carolina we're doing our live show from the back of a box truck. A nice box truck. It is a very nice box truck.

But we're not exactly sure if the box truck has enough technological ability to go live from the back of the box truck. So we might currently just be sitting in a box truck sweating our asses off, talking into a cell phone that is connected to a radio station.

And if that's the case, send us some tweets. Cheer us up. Hashtag, what the fuck is this? We're so thankful you chose to listen. You can listen to a lot of other things. You chose to listen to us. Know this. Tonight's games.

Go ahead and bet them all with Fandle. That's a free ad. We haven't signed anything with them yet, but I think we're awfully close. And they're very good. They were out here in the office yesterday. Yes, they were. Got a chance to shake some hands. Tonight's games are going to be awesome.

Tomorrow night, Winston-Salem, UNC at Wake. I think it's going to be an underrated game. Mack Brown, we heard about him from Nate. It's going to be good stuff. From myself, Nick, Diggs, Todd, Ty, Zito, Foxy, and Gumpy, we can't thank you enough for listening wherever you are in the world. We have another heater of a podcast coming out tomorrow

Friday Bangers. Diggs has given out some pics for the weekend. Things we're expecting and also a full review on how big of a clusterfuck the live show was from the back of a box truck in a parking lot in Winston-Salem, North Carolina You're the absolute greatest humans on earth We appreciate you. Ty Schmidt, hit the music.

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