The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1047 - OVERREACTION TUESDAY, NFL Week 17 Recap, College Football Playoffs Recap, Adam Schefter, Aaron Rodgers, Puka Nacua, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 2, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys recap being live on the sidelines from the Rose Bowl in Pasadena yesterday to watch Michigan defeat Alabama in overtime to earn a spot in the National Championship, as well as Washington’s massive win over Texas to cement their spot in the National Championship as well, before overreacting to everything that happened in a crazy week 17 of the NFL season and looking at all the different playoff scenarios going into the last week of the season before going around the internet and checking in on some of the overreactions from different fan bases around the league. Joining the progrum to chat about Jim Harbaugh restoring Michigan to greatness, if he’s likely headed to the NFL after this season, and some of the biggest injury news around the league as we head into week 18 is ESPN NFL Senior Insider and Michigan man, Adam Schefter (31:43-56:22). Next, 4x NFL MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, and Quarterback of the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers chats about 2023 as a whole, his thoughts on resting players when teams have already clinched a playoff berth, what he thinks about the whole Russell Wilson situation, the whole reporting eligible scandal in the Lions/Cowboys game, and much more (1:04:24-2:10:13). Next, rookie WR sensation for the Los Angeles Rams, 5th round pick out of BYU, Puka Nacua joins the show to chat about his historic rookie season, his relationship with Matthew Stafford, Cooper Kupp, and Sean McVay, what the locker room in LA is like, his thoughts on soaking, and much more (2:12:08-2:27:06). Later, 12 year NFL veteran at QB, ESPN NFL QB guru and co-host of NFL Live, Dan Orlovsky joins the show to chat about smelling Molly Qerim’s shoe on the First Take this morning, Mason Rudolph and the Steelers chances in the playoffs, what’s going on with the Eagles, and which teams it might be joever for (2:30:44-3:04:16). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this overreaction, Aaron Rodgers, Tuesday, January 2nd, 2024. This sports program starts now. Football! Hey, Happy New Year everybody. Happy New Year. Happy New Year to the Toxic Table at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Happy New Year boys.

Happy New Year Pat. One half of the hammer. Die. Cowboys, Tony Diggs, happy New Year, Tony. Happy New Year, Tony. Hey, Tony, you look good this year, Tony. Thank you. Nine-year NFL vet joining us looking so cool was roaming the Rose Bowl last night.

Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, a Southern California legend at this point. Wow. Nine-year NFL vet, host of the Man to Man podcast and everything DB, Darius J. Hey, New Year. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. Hey, in the back, everything DB, Darius J. Butler. Happy New Year. Hey, in the back, boys. Happy New Year. Happy New Year, boys.

Long weekend. Great weekend. We hope you had a chance to reflect on 2023. We hope you had a chance to project what 2024 will be. Wow. It's going to be a good one. Great one. It's going to be so much fun. You know why? Because it has to be. Yeah. You know? Like, it's coming. Whether we like it or not. Bingo.

I used to think about this. This was kind of the mindset change that I had for punting, okay, and kicking, for instance. I would, like, start thinking a little bit, you know? Like, maybe a negative thought or something like that would happen. And with offenses that I was on, it was really good. I'd be sitting on the sideline wondering if

like, I'm on the sideline an hour and a half, two hours. So I started thinking to myself, like, I mean, I'm hitting these balls that are net good. I'd be sitting on the sideline wondering if, like I'm on the sideline an hour and a half, two hours. So I'm starting to think to myself like, yeah, I mean, I'm hitting these balls that are not good, but are they,

are they going to get, I have no idea how this wind is blowing in this terrible stadium. Our offense has happened to have a great day. Cool. Fourth quarter,

you go out there, got to punt the ball. Now we need it. Hey, hey, need to be good. We haven't punted all day. I have no idea

what the stadium is needed. So then I started just changing my mindset like, hey, it's going to happen. Yeah. Like it's going to happen.

Yeah. We might as well make the most of it we might as well enjoy the hell out of it like this 2024 year god willing for all of us whichever god you believe in willing for all of us it's gonna happen let's enjoy every single day yeah let's have a great time whenever we wake up and although there's gonna be petty bullshits that are gonna be roaming wild all year we know it we probably know who it's going to be coming from. That's right. From 2023, 2022, 2021, 2020, 2019, all the research we've done, we probably know who the negative bullshits

are going to be coming from this 2024, but this year we don't care. No. You're a bum. Bum. Don't matter. You're a bum. You're bum.

Bum us out. So we're not going to let bum bum us out. Exactly. Never. Not in 2024. This is going to be the greatest year we've ever had. Happy New Year to everybody. Thanks for allowing us to do this for a living bum us out. Exactly. Never. Not in 2024. This is going to be the greatest year we've ever had. Happy New Year to everybody. Thanks for allowing us to do this for a living.

Hell yeah. Let's go. Remember, 2024, the vibes. Yeah, 2024, the vibes. That is what this year is all about. Let's have some great vibes because of what we got a chance to do just yesterday. Now, we have an entire NFL slate that we have to break down because a lot has happened. Yes.

And there is massive implications this weekend as we have NFL football on Saturday and on Sunday. And then on Monday, we got the national championship for college football. I mean, this is a great time. Happy New Year. There's a lot of implications coming up in the NFL. We certainly will chat about that because we didn't get a chance to go crazy

about these refs. Oh my God. Ruining the game, Pat. There's a Lions fan. Tough job. NFL's rigged here. Come on now. Everyone's saying it.

It's Detroit versus everybody. Script writer's trying to build that for you. Thank you. You're welcome. Okay, you're welcome. Maybe you should be saying, hey, Rog, thanks for making us get kind of screwed over in a situation that, you know, we understand that Kad be saying, hey, Rog, thanks for making us get kind of screwed over in a situation. That, you know, we understand that Kadarius Toney, egregious at the end of a game.

But this whole thing, this is just standard operating procedure. It's been happening since the beginning of time, especially with numbers and everything that used to be for numbers. Now, on the defensive side, offensive side, there's certainly question marks. But the offensive line still has to wear a certain frame of numbers between I think it's 50 and 80? Yeah. I think it's the offensive line numbers, I think, and if it's anything in there

and you're going to a position that is eligible to receive a catch or to receive the ball, well, the defense is going to have to know that, and also the refs are whenever they're looking at the line and who's where and who's what, they have to know. Shout out to Nick. Had a great week. Happy New Year, Nick. Happy New Year.

Happy New Year, Nick. Certainly doing it. The refs and the other team need to know who is potentially going to receive a catch. There's been centers before that have been reported eligible with different formations that have been set up. There's been guards that have been eligible with the way it's been set up. In this particular case, normally it's a tackle that kind of is a double tight end on one side, and it's kind of a heavy set. And it happens a lot more often than people

even realize. It's taken place for some teams in every single goal line or short yardage situation. It's just called by the ref, and commentators don't stop whenever the ref's talking. It's just hitting the stadium. Bill Belichick used to use this like 15 times a game. In the middle of the field, report eligible. Yeah, just an extra blocker.

You're out of there, but the defense every single time has to go through. So it's kind of just like a formal ceremony that takes place. It has been taking place for a long time. Now, Sewell's trying to block O'Cuzz from being seen by the defense

because once again, just a formal formality, I guess situations are situation there just said the same thing with formal and formality, I guess, situations are situation there. I just said the same thing with formal and formality. But he's now going to announce it. Defense, you know, not even really because of how often it happens. Listening, but not. 70 then gets called eligible over the emcee in-house

from what we've heard from the Spanish copy and also numerous social media filming things. Then 70's coming on the field to try to make it look like he's potentially doing it. So now the defense has a soul walking this way, guarding somebody with somebody coming on from the sideline. So the defense is trying to make a lot of decisions. I've never seen eye candy on a reporting. I've never seen eye candy on a reporting before I've never seen eye candy on a reporting before.

This is next level. This is next level. This is high IQ stuff. And then all of a sudden, boom, bang, worst things have all happened. It happens. We fail four. Four straight two-point conversion mindsets. We're going even from a seven.

We're going to do this whole thing. And instead, now, instead of a historic season, we still have the opportunity to do it. We have a little bit of a same old lion situation here. Bruin, after the brand new Lions, do something that hasn't happened in 30 years in Detroit. It's just going to add another chip on their shoulder. But we didn't

even get a chance to say, what are these refs doing? Banging about themselves. D-Butt, I know you're a defensive player, so you're going to view this obviously a lot differently than me. What do you think went wrong in this particular situation? And are we just saying to Brad Allen and his crew that have been demoted allegedly from the playoffs?

Thank you. That's been reported from the internet. We have no idea how that information got out so quick to these different, you know what I mean? Yeah, already. Because normally they don't talk about it at all. But I do appreciate the fact that some people have found out and they're telling the world, hey, he ain't going to be in the playoffs.

It's like there's a lot of bad ref. It's not. You know, Brad is definitely a bad ref. And it might be over for him going into the playoffs. Shout out, Gumpy. But, like, I don't know how that info got out. What is your takeaway from this? Yeah, you know it's tough.

Obviously, refs got a tough job. The Lions probably made it a little bit tougher on themselves and on the refs. You saw Skipper coming in there 70. And the thing about that, a little more context to that, that was probably like his second or maybe third or fourth time where he's reporting himself as the eligible uh jumbo tight end as defenses you kind of you're game planning you know who the jumbo guys are we had a play i think last week on um everything db good d bad d with the offensive lineman in the backfield so i'm sure he had to report and you

got it you've seen it you've heard coaches talk about it you gotta you know verbal non-verbal hey ref i'm reporting I'm reporting eligible. They announced to the defense. So I think that kind of confused them. As soon as she saw 70 running on, just probably anticipated that it was going to be him again. Decker was kind of trying to be a little low-key about it. And who knows how the defense would have adjusted differently

if they knew 68 was the eligible receiver. So it was tough. You hate to see a game come down to that where the refs mess it up. But I don't have a problem for them being dropped from the playoffs either. No, that's right. I like a little accountability for strikes, which is what we've been calling for forever. We've also been calling for consistency.

I didn't get to see every play of that particular game because where we were watching games at was certainly something. So I don't know how the refs were from start to finish, probably inconsistent like every ref in the NFL has seemingly been all year. So I don't know what Brad Allen is as a ref other than this particular situation. Sure.

Been around a while. Yeah. Dan said they drew the play up, too. Well, that's what I'm saying. Dan Campbell going to him. Yeah. And then, like, explaining what's going to happen. And then in the biggest moment when they need it,

exactly what he said was going to happen. It's tough. Happening. And then one of Brad's refs refs by the way maybe brad i guess he had to be a part of it as well but like all of it taking place in the biggest moment goes back to my point about like not all these refs are built for the moment no you know i mean like we obviously scrutinize and judge athletes when in the biggest moment they don't perform their best well why don't they perform their best well they're overthinking they're getting a little tight they're doing something abnormal than what they used to do they don't have good enough technique so then whenever they have to rely upon it it's not great that's what separates the right from yeah some you know now everybody can be good who can be the great we know who's up here okay serena yep waino tiger lebron

peyton tom brady john daly flacco flacco right yeah you know who we're talking about there's a difference here and their difference is that in between the years they are stone cold killers and in the biggest moments they perform at their absolute best some people have that but they're not great other places they are as well because they're always dialed in some of these refs are getting tossed in here and they're in lines cowboys massive huge guys a massive one seat on the line here two point conversion like here here it is yes this is the whole thing and sometimes you know you can just have a maybe brad had that moment where he didn't even think it was just in auto mode because he's like, oh, we're in a big moment and checks in for 70 because it's happened before in the game.

It's like that is that goes back to the whole point of like we need we need full time reps so that we could develop them, you know, and I had a chance to talk to a few source says within the officiating world because we talk about it a lot. We've been talking about it for a very long time. And as they pass the title of who's the head official, there's been different ways that things have kind of operated. And one of the things that's kind of getting left behind over the last couple of years, and I assume it's a budget conversation, is there's no real development. We talk about development of players. We talk about how like, well, that's a good coaching staff. They make guys better over there you know college that's obviously a massive thing nfl some places have better coaches than other places there's no real development of these so like the development is them getting thrown into live action and it's like there you go if

if these people are full-time you got off-season workouts yep you got trust falls yep you got a pool of people maybe you could pull from like Yep. Like, you know what I mean? You got practices you can go to? Hey, there's a high school seven-on-seven taking place. Sweet. We'll send our 14th and 15th teams out to go cover that just to get some work in the offseason. They'll own conferences, everything. Like, the full-time official thing is not only because it's weird that we have to look into what the side job is for a ref that blows a call that costs me a massive bet.

Yeah. That's a weird thing to have to do. This middle school teaching son of a bitch. What is this ref doing Monday through Friday and then on Sunday he's making this call and I'm getting screwed up. The team's getting screwed over. So obviously that is a

benefit of full-time refs that it's their full-time job and you would think that maybe they're not getting distracted by potential outsiders, especially in the world that we're in right now. But also, we can make them better, and we can find who's good. And then you can also bench people. Yeah. Oh, this particular line, Judge.

Did you see week one? Can't have it. Everything was wrong. Yep. Well, I've got to put it back on the bench, maybe develop a little bit. You know, hey, Jack's been working his ass off. Yeah. He started as back judge, moved to a line judge this past offseason.

Let's go ahead and give him a shot. You know, he's with Cleet Blakeman, been around a long time. He's got a veteran. He'll put him in there. Like, we should do that. There's the amount of money to do it. I'm sure some sponsor would love to pay the money to the NFL to even build that. But it's like whenever things like this happen, the first thought for everybody is just like,

these refs suck, and they do. But I think we can make it better, and I think the NFL is trying from what I've been told. I've been told that the NFL is making the right calls to the right people, having the right conversations, but the NFL moves like molasses. That is what the NFL is. It's a multibillion-dollar operation. Things are really good right conversations. But the NFL moves like molasses. That is what the NFL is. It's a multi-billion dollar operation. Things are really good right now. I don't know if you've seen the ratings.

They're just doing this right here. So they move slow. But from what I've been told, all the right thoughts are happening. Which is good news. That's all you can really ask for. In the whole referee thing, what you just said. Relegation. We need to send these bitches down like Burnley. I'm'm sorry to where mac big 12 no no all the way down to fc

pop warner i don't care where it ends but you talk about the moment being too big like you can clearly see the head referee as decker and penne sewell are kind of trying to tell him like hey this is this is it right here he's just looking to the left, and he points at Skipper, and then he starts walking. He's not even listening to what Penne or them are doing. He's looking over at Skipper here, sees him coming on to them, and he points at Skipper, doesn't even listen to what Decker or Sewell are saying, and then he's going. They're doing eye candy.

Yeah. Hey, eye candy on the reporting. It's kind of genius. It's genius. Close to silver. It's genius, and I don't want to hear the confusion stuff. This is the reporting. Hey, it's kind of genius. It's genius. Close to silver. It's genius, and I don't want to hear the confusion stuff. This is the NFL. This is the greatest league on earth.

Foxy. Foxy. Don't get too cute. We talk about the confusion stuff in the NFL all the time. Jack, not every team can do it. Well, not only. I mean, the Patriots, they've had to change numerous rules at the NFL because Bill Belichick abusing the reporting eligible rule.

I think against the Colts, and in my mind it's probably different than what it actually was, but the year that the reporting eligible thing and the way the formations they were doing, it feels like they did it against us at least four to five times. At least. Just like maybe a half. Sorry, Chuck. It was just like in in like maybe a half yeah sorry chuck it was just like every play yeah was something they're reporting they're doing it and as a player you

want to take it out of the official hands as much as possible you saw when he looked at skipper started running off i feel like decker maybe a kind of grab hold on yell at him hey it's me like i'm reporting just to just to let it be no i'm sure you know especially when you want to run you know you and midget with all those onside kicks, I'm sure you guys had some conversations with the refs. A lot of conversations. Like, hey, this is exactly what's going on. I don't know, maybe even when they're handing you the ball,

maybe a little reminder or something. But, yeah, you just want to take it. You just want to take those guys out of the game. Even in a two-minute situation, you'll see a lot of times receivers, their coach not to toss the ball to the referee because drop it, fall on the ground. So, hey, hand the ball to the ref, then go get down. So it's the little things, and they don't show up. And I understand Foxy.

I understand the Lions fans. I understand just football fans being pissed off, but they're humans too. And on the flip side, those refs last night, I know in our game, at least at Rose Bowl, and I know you talked to them beforehand. They said, hey, look, we want to stay out of it. We want to be observers of the game. And I feel like for the most part, you know, they definitely did. They were really good.

The Rose Bowl refs, and I think I saw as we were walking out, yeah, so we didn't even get a chance to talk about that Lions thing yesterday because of how awesome yesterday was. It feels like we do have to address that for the Lions, folks. But with that being said, it's an ad chip on your shoulder. Yeah. Boom. I agree.

It's more Detroit for Detroit. Yeah, absolutely. Still going to the playoffs. The most Detroit versus everybody thing of all time, especially because it was the Cowboys and this has happened in the playoffs before. I will say a lot of people are saying, though, like in the football world that I know that they're going like, they're reporting like assholes.

Yeah, a little bit. A lot of people saying this. That's saying a lot about the refs then. That's saying a lot about these refs. We've got to get better refs then. If we're confusing the refs, then what are we doing? This is the biggest league on the earth. Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, a lot of guys that played mostly on the defensive side of the ball

have said, like, they've got three guys walking over there. Don't do that. They announce it either way. This is not how it is going. And they announce it. Like, that's what everybody on the defensive side of the ball is thinking. D-Butt just softened that, I think. Yeah, he did.

I didn't even ask him before the show because we had a long day yesterday. But a lot of the defensive people that have been messaging me about it are like, the Lions were trying to do something that nobody. I mean, you're trying to eye candy a damn. You're trying to send somebody emotion. You're trying to Mike McDaniel, Tyreek Hill, send somebody in motion before a reporting of an eligible number. It's like, respect what you're doing.

But if Brad Allen, wow, how many people are here? What the hell? Really a lot of report. One more. We could expect that because we've learned about officials that maybe not the most ready for everything. Maybe a big moment does get them a little bit off.

Maybe does kind of freak them out a little bit. MCDC is too smart is what we're saying here. Him and Ben Johnson seemingly, yeah. This is like when Shane Steichen, Sirianni and him changed the quarterback sneak into the tush push. It's just taking something that's

been here forever and then just being like, you know what? Can't we? We can get like 600 pounds pushing. That's a lot better than just 210 pounds. How come nobody's done this? How come nobody's done this before? There's got to be a rule against it. No rule against it. Alright, perfect. We're going to put 900 pounds of people

right back here and we're just going to use our guy as a battering ram. He's just going to run over Jason Kelsey's ass and we're going to go. And of people right back here and we're just going to use our guy as a battering ram and he's just going to run over jason kelsey's ass we're going to go and everybody else in the nfl was like that's been there this whole time how come we didn't do that now nobody else has been as successful as the philadelphia eagles now whenever people see this by the way around the nfl there's going to be so many offense coordinators like no okay so we need disguise reporting and then if we can get our stadium also to turn down his mic whenever he does the number 70 has reported eligible

like they did, we could change this whole thing. But to your point about yesterday's refs, yesterday was so dumb. Congrats to college football. Congrats. Great day. It was awesome. Congrats to college football, which we have been incredibly lucky to be a part of here for like the last two years. Basically being baptized by the biggest traditions, the biggest pageantry,

the biggest games, and the biggest names in the sport. We are incredibly lucky to be there. Yesterday, we were walking on the Rose Bowl sidelines, calling a college football playoff game between Alabama and Michigan. By the way, one of those teams, we've talked to the head coach pretty much all season long. He's considered the greatest of all time. And on the other side is a guy who just wins. That is literally all he does.

And as we learn more about his character, hilarious human being. Now, certainly going to be some at the top of that whole thing. But what great dynasty doesn't have that? That is kind of what happens whenever you're a winner. Although this year's one

got real loud and real ridiculous very, very quickly. We understand how dumb it is. But like, it was cool how, and this is the first time that I've experienced this seemingly. Everybody, like, knew who we were, you know? And everybody had such a cool, like, that refs. The reason why we were talking to the refs is because I think all the refs watch our show. So, like, shout out to the refs that watch.

The refs from Rose Bowl yesterday, who I think watch our show. but we go onto the field to watch warm-ups dumb not supposed to be out there on rose bowl we're not standing in the past it's on the 50s just standing absurd now great ben is you're dumping on rose bowl rolling around he's chief happiness officer they gave him press credential which is good news for ben but we're just like standing there and the people that are coming up to say hello to us was so – the refs, though, come right over. Hey, how you doing? The head ref, so much moxie.

Yes. You can tell by shaking his hand. It's like, this is a white cat. This is a guy that we need giving the calls to the camera. This is the guy we need kind of leading the way, communicating with the players. And he literally told us, we're going to be observers here. We are going to be consistent.

Like the boys play. He said, we're going to be consistent and we're going to be observers. And it was like, he was giving me like a press report. Like, Hey, this is our game plan. And I'm like, hell yeah, dude. And then he was. And their entire crew got the message as well. He's a big 12 ref.

I don't know if it was a mixed group or not. And shout out to Pac, you know, Pac was an absolute dog. He said he wanted to be in the WWE as a ref. Loved being a ref. I don't know if it was a mixed group or not. Shout out to Pac. Pac was an absolute dog. He said he wanted to be in the WWE as a ref. Loved being a ref. Saw Ed Hockley at one point and said, yep, that's what I'm supposed to be. Attention, detail sick. Had great hair. I think he was from Brooklyn or the Bronx. I apologize.

The Bronx, I think. It's a big mistake. Had great hair. He was coming up to talk to us. This crew was dialed in. They were phenomenal through that game. And they were consistent. If it was a quarterback, consistent. If it was a punter, consistent.

If it was a little extra, they were consistent. And I think that's all anybody's asking for, right? Now, I heard some people, whenever we went back to the trailer, back area, like, those refs out there. That was one of my biggest takeaways from the game. A, Michigan is awesome. Yes, they are. Hey.

Gritty. They got dogs up there. It's a damn good football team. And they answer, too. Oh, yeah. Like, the scouting report on J.J. McCarthy is, like, performs well under pressure. Yeah. Yeah.

That drive. He sure did. He does. That guy is phenomenal. Blake Corham. He cuts backwards in the overtime touchdown that he scores. He's better than I thought coming in. Quicker than I thought.

Yeah, he was unbelievable to see live. He didn't have as many explosive touchdowns this year as he did last year. Last year he had like 20-something, I think. I think he had like 20-something long runs. And then this year, post-ACL surgery, which is what everybody kind of was tagging you with, he's just been like goal line touchdowns. Hasn't had the long haul, which

led me to think, oh, he must be getting caught. Must not have as much juice. That's not true at all. He's quick. He runs so hard, too. How about that was Roman Wilson right there? He makes this catch that gets the up fingertip grab.

There's another catch where he, I think it's that one. I might've been another one jump catch as he's coming down spin. And then like, without even landing lands, like one leg juke on his land and then gets around a guy. I'm like, that's a freak.

That's a freak athlete move. And then you think about big coast and he didn't really get going. No, they still have that tight end that they use emotion and shift. And then offensive think about Big Colston. He didn't even really get going. They still have that tight end that they use in motion and shift. And then offensive coordinator, they are shifting, moving. They got Alabama confused. They got Alabama confused.

One of the things coming into it, they would say, Michigan will formation you to death. They shift. They motion. And they always got guys in the right spots. If it's fourth and two, if it's something on the goal line, a quorum touchdown, it's him right here. You know, if it's fourth and two, if it's something on the goal line, a quorum touchdown, it's him right here, leaps out to the left, wide open. And you never expect that

against a Nick Saban, you know, Alabama coach defense. And it was all day. The crossers were killing him. The trick play, you know, McCarthy made an unbelievable catch and throwing his throwback right here. Unbelievable catch,

and he just got it off. Boom. Back foot fading back. 30 yards. And then the big plays. The big plays when they need it because offensively, defensively, I think Michigan kind of had their way all afternoon long. Special teams was kind of letting them down, putting them in some bad spots,

but they just overcome. Then for it to go to overtime, you go and score, and then you get a great stop. J.J. McCarthy, I think, moves to 26-1 now as a Michigan starter. Yeah, his percentage was 96.2% win percentage, but there was a lot of those types of plays where they were just scheming. The Alabama defense

was either getting caught up or picking the wrong guy, and Tim Tebow called this play whenever we were on there with him about what he wanted to see out of J.J., and this is part of his game I don't think a lot of us respected enough. J.J.'s a dog, dude. Yes.

He's been injured at the end of the season. That was the one that got tipped. Look, in his land, you see all the juke right there. They'll have a back shot of this one, I think. Shout out back shots. That's all me. You guys had a great view of this one. Boom.

Bang. Look at that. I mean, he doesn't even get his right foot on the ground. It's just immediate juke. And then the easy touchdown here to Roman. I mean, it was a phenomenal game, too, because Alabama was completely out of sorts in that first half. Completely out of sorts.

The best play they had was Chase McClellan. He ends up scoring a touchdown, shaking Sa-ir-silk. Saying it's true. Saying it's true. Mike saying it's true. Is that your final answer? Final answer. Mike saying it's true. Anyways, juke's him. He would come true. Mike Sain is true. Is that your final answer? Final answer. Mike Sain is true.

Anyways, jukes him. He would come back later and make a massive tackle. But that was really their only offensive play. And they were only down three at halftime. Then they take the lead. The Rose Bowl people play Dixieland Delight. That play starts going bananas. Timing was insane.

And it's like Alabama's going to the national championship all of a sudden. Mark Ingram's losing his mind. Bunch of the boys on the sideline going crazy. And then that strip happens. Michigan gets a strip, gets the ball back. And it's like that team just has – I know it's crazy to just talk about their adversity, but that team just answers every single thing. Coach is suspended.

We got Mike Hart as a head coach this week. We got somebody else as a head coach next. Who cares? This team just keeps showing up. And everybody's talked about how they're singularly focused on a mission and have been since the beginning of the season. I think that's how Desmond Howard described it. It's like, that is true. They don't

let anything deter them. Special teams kind of stinks. Who cares? Who cares? Now, Zach, they best offensive lineman? Who cares? Now, Zach, they obviously miss him, but who cares? They continue to run on Bama. And then their defense was all over Jalen Milrow. He got sacked so much. First play of the game, he gets sacked. Then on the third play of the game,

he gets sacked. I mean, there was a message very, very quick and early. This Michigan team's the real deal. This Michigan team is the real... And I apologize. I apologize to the Michigan faithful. Because I've is the real... And I apologize. I apologize to the Michigan faithful. Wow. Because I've seen a lot of them out there in California. Probably 70-30. 65-35.

Michigan over Alabama fans out there. It was packed out in blue, which is why the Mr. Brightside was so loud. Yeah, it was awesome. But a lot of them told me, you never pick us. Do you know that? You never pick us. Do you know that? You never pick us.

And I was like, what do you mean? It's not true. And people were rattling it off in my face that I, and then like, yeah, you never did. We were walking out. He picked it against the Spaniards. Yeah, it was. It was literally, and I started thinking to myself,

you know why I think I've picked against Michigan? Why is that? It's because I'm such a firm believer in the football guts. Sure. So like everything I had been hearing about what's from hamburger to Connor Stallion to the videos, in my head I'm like, football guts are going to punish this team. This is just how this works.

You know, this is how this works. I think what the football guts are telling us, that was all about. That was a rogue agent. That's what, I think the football guts are telling us, that was all but a bullshit. I think the football gods are... That man's been punished. I thought about that last night as I was walking off the Rose Bowl. I'm like, the football gods literally just told me, like, hey, everything you were...

It's all bullshit. We like Michigan. And it's like these Michigan fans are like, oh, welcome to the party. Yeah, it has been. And it's been one man, Pete Dabble. It's been a crazy year for Michigan. For them to make it to the national championship here is absurd.

To win the way they did. And then it gets overtime. Sometimes you think of overtime. Like, all right, we got one overtime, two overtimes maybe. We'll get to the point where there's no extra points. They were like, nope. Nope. Hey, we're going to go score.

Blake, once again, cuts backwards. He does a jump cut backwards. Boom, backwards, out, and around. And from the back view, it is even more absurd. And that's just like a long touchdown in overtime. You know what I mean? Normally, overtime, you've got to work, work, work, work, work. First one, normally, field goal is the case.

That jump cut there with the blocking downfield and then the finish from the 5'8", 215-yard guy, you'd be lucky you'd get this guy on your football team next year in the NFL. Mike Gorham. He's a dog. Finds himself in the paint. And then they stop Alabama. It's like, what a win.

Good for Michigan. I think in your defense, because this is the second time we've seen them, and again, like in the Big Ten Championship, we're in your suite down there, and that's absolutely close. But it's not like being on the field. When you're on the sidelines and you can see how physical and how fast they are, it's just a little bit different. I think part of it is they played Iowa. They knew there was no way Iowa was going to win that game. JJ was harder. Yeah, exactly. They kind of played down to... They were only up 10-0 at halftime, and we were like, gee. With how good Alabama's

looking, they beat Georgia. They're one of the hottest teams in the country right now. You could see why a lot of people thought Alabama was going to win, but it really was. I mean, there were moments in that game where Alabama had all the momentum and the entire crowd was like Michigan. We were right in front of Michigan's fan base and just dead silent. But like you said, they always answered. When they needed to, they always answered,, we were right in front of Michigan's fan base and just dead silent. But like you said, like, they always answered.

When they needed to, they always answered, flipped the momentum right away. And it was very clear. Like, they were the best team on that field yesterday. By far. Yeah, bar none. Coaching, strategy, scheme, formation, play, everything out there. It was the trenches pretty much. I mean, think about what the Alabama O-line, like, they –

I mean, how many sacks did – how many times did Millrow get sacked? Six, I think, or seven. And then the Michigan O-line, like they, I mean, how many sacks, how many times did Milrow get sacked? Six, I think, or seven. The Michigan O-line just kind of dominated all day in the run game. And the last time that that's happened to an SEC team against a Big Ten team is wild to see, kind of. Yeah, and we learned a lot about a guy named Mason Graham. Yeah. With a big 55. Dog.

And they got another 99. There it is. They got some nose tackles. 78. Playing D tackle in there. They got a lot of meat. They got a lot of meat. Maybe that's why the damn center was throwing a bunch of ground balls

back there to damn Jalen Murrow. I mean, that's a tough spot to be in as a quarterback. You know, Tim Tebow talked about it a little bit. Obviously, it's going to take your eyes, even on that last play. It wasn't open. It's going to take your eyes off the defense. You've got to be worried about that every snap. That should be almost like a routine, almost like a muscle memory type thing

as a quarterback in the center. So that was tough. I mean, that was head-scratching to see a Nick Saban coach team, an Alabama team in January still having snapping issues. That's something I know is probably the deepest, most talented defensive line in the country in Michigan. Alabama team in January still having, you know, snapping issues. That's something I know is, you know, probably the deepest, most talented defensive line in the country in Michigan. But that's tough on the national stage.

Yeah, I did not enjoy watching that happen for Jalen. The first touchdown, Jason McClellan, low snap. Jalen handles it, hands it off. We're off and running. But that continued all game. And I do assume that it was thinking about old 55 and 99. The other seven that they rotate in there. Nine guys they rotate in there.

But you can't have that happen. But also, Michigan forced them to play that way. Just like Michigan forced themselves to kill Jalen. And then in that overtime on the fourth and two there, there's a Skycam shot where Jalen Melrose could have got in. Oh, yeah. If he goes to the left. He'll be back next year. That's what they're saying.

That's what they're saying, D-Buck. I don't think so. I mean. Did you see it? There's a lot of room. I saw it. I don't think so. And the snap doesn't work.

He would have to do the Blake Corum jump cut. Yeah. Right? It would have to have been an absurd jump cut. But it feels like Jalen thought that was a – Yeah. Yeah. And old buddy was pulling.

Maybe it was just a distraction. I can't even pull a guard out from where you're running the ball to on a must-have it. But, like, the back – you're right. Side angle doesn't give him as much room. That's tough because you got Sainz and Struel coming off the edge, so you would have to go inside of him and then bounce out. And Miller on a safety, though.

Feel pretty good about that. He still would. I mean. And Miller on a safety, though. Feel pretty good about that. He still would. I mean, it's on the three. Anyways, joining us now is a man whose team is going to the national championship. That's right. We asked for Rich Eisen to join us yesterday. He was too locked in on the game.

Yeah, he was. It was a seesaw of a game. They said he's a nervous wreck up there. Okay, so, like, I think the answer was Rich says he would love to do it, but please let Pat know that I, you know, nervous wreck here. Yeah, trying not to puke. Okay, all right. So this Michigan fans and the Michigan faithful have been waiting for this for a long time.

This guy obviously started chatting about what's next potentially last week on this particular program, but has had to answer questions about the head coach of the Michigan team for a long time. Senior NFL insider at ESPN, Michigan man. Not going to the national championship, though. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Sheffield. Nice little three-quarters zip there, pal.

Happy New Year to everybody. Wait, you said not going. I don't know that it's not going just yet. We're trying to see if we can figure it out. I don't know if we can. I don't know. It's still up in the air like the plan was no because monday is the day when coaches get fired and their divorces and you got to be in

position so if we can figure out a way to get that done in houston like from the game day set or something then maybe we can go oh why don't you bring some news from the game? Yeah. I mean, I have no say in anything. Low man on totem pole. I mean, we'll be there. You can use it, dude. Yeah. Why not? Easy.

Use the set. I think our show is going to be there. You can use ours. Hey, you need to use ours. Go ahead. Whatever you want. Well, we're going to have to tell that to Seth Markman and see if we can get that done, right? All right.

We'll go right over his head. We'll make that happen. I'm all for that. Yeah, that'd be no problem. We don't have to go very high over his head either,'ll make that happen. I'm all for that. Yeah, that'd be no problem. I don't get to go very high over his head either, you know, so do that. Yes. Yeah, we'll go real high over if we have to. The thought that Michigan is playing in the national championship,

I just told you about what Rich Eisen said to us. This is huge for you, Michigan fans. How long have you been waiting? Is this real? How come there is such a sense of, like, overexcitement almost for a team like Michigan? Because I think Michigan, I think great program, great franchise. This feels different for you guys.

Why is that? Well, it's been, what, 27 years since they won a football championship. And all I can tell you is that in my senior year at Michigan, which was 1989, Pat, me and my college roommates, we went out to Seattle, Lexington, Kentucky for the Sweet 16, and then Seattle for the Final Four. And I can tell you that to this day, it's still one of the most memorable weekends of my life. The fun that we had is something that everybody that's a part of the program, every student there now is now experiencing. And I wish that joy and happiness for everybody because it's something that I'll always remember. So what we had as seniors weeks before we graduated from Michigan

is what a lot of people at the school are having now. And there are so many people that have worked so hard for it that you just love to see it. Like every year somebody gets to experience it. So it's Michigan's turn this year to try to bring it home. And I'm really happy for them and the school. And there's, like I said to you last week, there are so many great kids on this program. So many great young men. I'm happy for them. And I know some of the coaches there and I have great respect for them and I'm happy for that. So I'm just happy for all these people and I'm just along for the ride enjoying what they're creating. Yeah, I think it'd be very easy to be happy for that group of people

that is up there doing their thing right now, especially with everything they've been through this year, especially if you've been on their side the entire time, which I assume every Michigan human has. Did you guys get an email that said, hey, it's all bullshit. It's all bullshit throughout the entire season because it felt like the Michigan faithful did stay very strong

behind Jim Harbaugh, very, very strong through it all. Hamburger, what a joke. We all thought that was a joke. But the stealing signs thing with a rogue agent, that doesn't seem believable. But now it feels like the football gods are letting us all know, yeah, this is all malarkey. This team doesn't need a rogue agent in Connor Stallions.

It's like this is a special group. It reminds me of an NFL world, like deflating. Okay. Thank you. The football, a little air went out of the football. Oh, so that compromises the greatness of Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. That diminishes what they did? Like, come on.

Bring up any other one but that one. Sorry, Pat. Yeah. I mean, we lost by seven. That was a tough night. 38-10. That was a tough night. It was cold.

It was windy. There was snow before that game. It was freezing. Hey, we still got the banner. Damn right. Amen, brother. Still got the banner. AFC finalists.

Hey, Gronk, Gronk, Jules Relax too guys We never said anything They were like We were trying to bury that Quicker than everybody To my point Do you think the fact that Whatever error may or may not have come out of the football

Contributed to how well The Patriots played that year Well Bill Nye the science guy, told me. They're taking it out for nothing, you know? Whoa. Oh, damn. This is what Jules and Grover talk about. Bring it back.

This is what Jules and Grover talk about. Bring it back up, D-Bud. Ass kicking is an ass kick. You know, it doesn't matter. They won the game. They won the game, all right? They won a lot of games. But the asterisk thing, whenever you're great,

they're going to come for you. Speaking of coming for you, if you're great, Jim Harbaugh has been talked about every single offseason about coming back to the NFL because of how prolific he is as an NFL coach. And he has been. Now, last week, you said something that was, you know, I don't want to say it caught my attention, but it certainly caught my, you know, thought process.

You said Harbaugh wanted to come back to his alma mater, and he wanted to restore greatness to his school. That was his mission that he was going to do that. College football playoff, lost to Georgia. College football playoff, lost to TCU. Another college football playoff. If he went back to Michigan and took them to three straight college football playoff, but never won one,

would he consider that being a mission done? Like, yes, Michigan is back. We're big tense. We beat Ohio State three straight years. We're in the college football playoff. Would that be enough for him to think, you know, check that box of restoring greatness in Michigan. Let me go back to the NFL.

When you said that, is that like the overwhelming narrative about what Harbaugh's doing at Michigan? I'd never heard that before, but that makes a lot of sense, especially if that's why he's weighing his options literally every single offseason. Well, I don't know what the narrative is. I can just tell you my perspective always has been that Jim wanted to restore greatness to Michigan. He's done that. He's now one game away from winning a national title and fulfilling a goal, I'm sure, of his and the schools and everybody involved in

the program. So if and when he were to do that, or even not do that, I think that would leave him with one goal that he would like to accomplish in his great football career. And that would be to win a Super Bowl, be a part of a Super Bowl winning team. Came close to doing it against his brother when they coached against each other in that Super Bowl in New Orleans where the lights went out and Baltimore beat San Francisco. And so the way that I look at this is this, like, let's just look at it in basic facts. He hasn't signed an extension with Michigan yet. He's hired an agent, Don Yee, who has deep NFL connections. He's got Michigan one game away from a national championship. Whether or not he wins it, I believe that the NFL will help dictate or determine

whether or not he goes. If there's a team out there that really wants him that makes a really compelling offer my sense is that he would be interested absolutely in listening and entertaining that offer no matter what happens next monday night that's my opinion i think what you said last week was like uh 15 million probably what he'll be getting paid to be an nfl head coach versus the 12 and a half million allegedly being reported for the 125 million dollar deal that was offered from college. But this could potentially become like how Sean Payton was, right, last offseason with these owners? Well, here's the deal.

Here's the deal. The Sean Payton salary came in somewhere around $20 million, and the top coaches now seem to be coming in there. So if Jim wins a national title, who's to say that that number's not going to come in it. I'm making this up 17 and a half, 18, 19. I don't know. But, but, but that's why you hire Don Yee to go do that deal. A big deal. He didn't hire Don Yee to go negotiate an extension with Ward Manuel. He just didn't do that. Okay. So let's see what happens next Monday night. Let's see what happens in that game. And then he gets to sift through his options and

it's up to the NFL. It's up to the NFL to pull him into the league. I believe the opportunity is there. I believe he's all ears. It doesn't mean he's leaving. It doesn't mean they have to make his mind up for him, but he's there to be had in my mind. Do you think there's a chance that he's told his team this and nobody's just talking about it? Because he said whenever he was asked about the Chargers job or any NFL

jobs, he says, we just have a singular focus on dominating today. There was a story about when Ray Lewis retired halfway through the season or something like that, he told the team, like, hey, this is going to be my last go. This is going to be it. And they go on to Super Bowl for that guy. You know what I mean?

They kind of, they go on, but it was kept in-house. Is there any chance that Harbaugh has been very open and real with this Michigan team and been like, boys, I'm going to be honest. Like, this is my last year here at Michigan. I'm going to go back to the NFL. Let's go win. There's a very veteran old team there.

That Michigan team has been around a little bit. Is there any chance he said that or you think the boys are just thinking Harbaugh's coming back next year and don't care about it at all? I don't think he brings his thoughts onto them and I don't think it's a foregone conclusion he's leaving just because he's all ears and open to that idea. And he's hired.

That's good. It doesn't mean he's leaving. Like it's still again, Pat, it comes back to what I said to you. The NFL still has to want him. It's got to be the right opportunity with the right offer. And if that comes along, all that falls into place, I think he winds up leaving. It doesn't mean it will. It doesn't mean that the right team doesn't come. Like last year, Denver came along and it didn't work out for whatever reason. The year before, Minnesota came along. It didn't work out. We don't know whether the Chargers or Raiders or Panthers or somebody else will come along this year and it'll work out or not. And if it doesn't, I think Jim, I know Jim loves Ann Arbor. He loves the people in that program. He loves being a part of it. And if he stays, he stays like that's great,

but he's open to the idea that somebody comes along, pulls him away, knowing, again, I still believe that he wants to win a Super Bowl. I believe that's in his heart. At some point, whether that's this year or next year or in five years. Hey, what he needs to know, though, and I think all Michigan fans feel this way going through this entire year

and this entire run with him, he's a special guy, dude. He's a good football coach. Way to go, Jim! Good work, Jimmy. He's a good football coach. Way to go, Jim. Good work, Jimmy. He's also in the ring of honor here at the Indianapolis Colts. People forget about that. A hell of a player back in the day. I was at the playoff game where he upset the Kansas City Chiefs.

The Chiefs were the one seed, and he was the Colts quarterback. And I remember the silence that fell upon Arrowhead Stadium that day, being in the locker rooms, and I remember the silence that fell upon Arrowhead Stadium that day being in the locker rooms and it was incredible and then the next week I remember he's in the AFC Championship game and he's one long completion away at Three Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh from taking the Colts to the Super Bowl and I think it was Aaron Bailey the pass went through his arms it was a Hail Mary in the end zone. It was so close to that. He nearly pulled the upset. He willed the Colts to those playoff wins. That's who he is, and that's what he does.

He helped do it last night again against Alabama. Let's see if he can do it next Monday night against Washington. I was at that. Moving. Look at him moving. Yeah, he was unbelievable. it also helped that day that the chief kicker lynn elliott missed a few different field goals but jim rose you guys gotta figure that out of michigan pal yeah yeah yeah all right jim was incredible that day look

at that i mean he was he was really good that day and it was really cold and cassie the snowy boy that was fun yeah it was a great times. Yeah, Kansas City can get very chilly. We played there when it was negative 15, I think. That's fun. Frozen field. Yeah, it was not fun. It was not a good time. Hey, let me tell you something.

As somebody who's gone to school at Michigan, I think some of the coldest spots I've been in my life were in Kansas City. I was there for a Broncos playoff game one year where there was an ice storm. It was 10 below. I was there another year with wind chills. It was 40 below. This is Kansas City. Kansas City can be brutally cold. Well, the Midwest,

you know, with how flat it is, it's that it's, it's obviously the cold, but you need the cold. It's though never ending. That just doesn't stop because there's no hills. There's no, there's nothing in the way of the wind. So the wind is going from, what, Dakota all the way to Ohio pretty much. And it's gaining speed every single day. It's so cold. And then it runs into a hill somewhere finally. Pittsburgh. And it just stops.

It's like, all right, we'll stop here. Yeah, we're trying to figure it out. And that's what I've learned from moving to the Midwest. Every day is windy. Every single day. Now, let's go back to jim hardball one of those teams that might just pay him a shitload of money i mean so much money is the second wealthiest owner in the nfl now david tepper has obviously been something we will

say as a nfl owner he has meetings with the coaches every single monday and those from what we've heard have been a little loud. He had a lot of opinions. One thing leads to another. Team stinks. They're in disarray. Has already filed bankruptcy on a practice facility in one of the towns down there in Carolina. They've rolled through five different coaches.

They have no real pillars. And the number one overall pick looked like he did not know football from the crew that was assembled to make him know football. But, with all that being said, a lot of money. Yep. Tons. Money cures all. Harbaugh maybe go to Carolina. And will a video like this potentially change anything?

When David Tepper, owner of the Panthers, takes a cup as if he's at a bar like Club Z in Morgantown and throws some ice and some backwash on somebody in the stadium there in Jacksonville that he was not happy with. Now, I've been told numerous different stories that the person that got hit with that ice, broken neck.

Yep. No. Yeah. I can see. I heard. There's been a couple other rumblings. Ice in the eye. Yeah, ice in the eye.

Blind. And actually, they are professional binoculars, so future earnings now completely ruined with the eye thing. What the hell happened? If this is what this guy's doing out of a suite at another stadium, what are these Monday meetings like with these coaches?

What is this going to lead to? And how did we get here with this guy? I assume he's got to be incredibly intelligent in some form of business. Sure. Because with how big of an asshole he acts, he should not be as successful as he is. Second wall of the zone, the whole NFL. So he's got to be great to act this way.

Got to be great at something. So congrats to that. What is going to happen with him? And who is the right coach for this maniac down there in Carolina, seemingly? They got to find somebody. They have to find somebody that is going to help Bryce Young turn into the quarterback that they thought he was when they traded the number one overall pick in the 2024 draft to get him. They traded so much to get this guy. And they thought that if they put enough weapons around Bryce Young, that he would be able to be like Drew Brees has been in New Orleans. That's the vision they had for Bryce Young. The problem is, is they don't have those weapons

right now. And my question, as other people have said it to me, is will the quarterback break, be broken before they can get enough weapons and help him develop into the quarterback that he has or had the chance to be. Because there are a lot of young quarterbacks in this league that are ruined before they can turn into somebody significant. Now, we've seen great comeback stories, reclamation projects. Geno Smith comes to mind. Guys that didn't make it early on that hang around, learn the game,

improve in the craft, and turn into a quarterback. But I will say this. I've spoken to a number of coaches who feel like Bryce Young, the game looks big for him right now. He looks little bigger. Why'd you say that? Oh, okay. You're side-shaming.

Wow. Shefty. Wow. Look at six-foot-seven Shefty. Classic Michigan. Punching down. Yeah, oh at six foot seven Shefty. Classic Michigan. Punching down. Yeah, oh, you guys go to the national championship. It's like it's 27 years ago.

Okay. Oh, wow. Geez. Shefty, you remember when anybody that brought that up was called a terrible person? Yep. That was last combine thing because I did have my wonders. Because I seen CJ Stroud play against Georgia in the Georgia Dome right in front of my face. He was big.

He's a big son. Fast. Strong. Seemed to be a great leader. The boys loved him. And they're a 51-yard field goal away from beating the team that beat TCU by 50-something who beat Michigan. Oh!

In that entire thing. So going through that entire draft process, I remember just saying, Bryce Young is amazing. I see he's a little small. Yeah. And boy, I got murder. Steph Curry. Yeah, you don't need it.

You see what Kyler does? You see what Drew Brees did? Come on, dude. It's like, yeah, but he's skinnier than both of them, and he's, I think, about the same, shorter. He's going to. That's going to be a problem. He has feel. He does the whole thing.

I think that has a chance to be great. You know what I mean? Like Steph Curry has had the Splash Brother alongside of him. Had Draymond Green back before he was just smacking people in the mouth for no reason. Kevin Durant for a little bit. If he's in a perfect situation, probably great, right?

But that's a long way away. Don't they feel it? And by Probably great, right? But that's a long way away. That's a long way away. Don't feel like they thought. Yeah. And by the way, they still think that. But I think there's a race. I think the race is on. Can they get him enough talent and help revive him before he washes out? And that's why it's critically important to get the coaching higher right now.

And, you know, if you're Jim Harbaugh, and if you have the opportunity to go now. And, you know, if you're Jim Harbaugh and if you have the opportunity to go to Los Angeles with Justin Herbert or to go to the Raiders and go draft JJ McCarthy, or you go to Carolina with Bryce, what would you be picking right now? And that's what he's going to have to sift through in his mind if there's interest there. Is that what it's going to be? You think? Like, Sean Payton, obviously, he wanted the head coach, GM, and ownership to be aligned. Doug Peterson talked to us.

He wanted a quarterback. Doug Peterson wanted a quarterback, which is why he ended up down in Jacksonville with Trevor Lawrence. They've obviously had success. Are they okay? I don't know. What the hell is going on? Good question.

But for him, I do wonder what it would be, what he would want. Because, like, you say those three teams. The Spanos Bank, different. Davis Bank, different. The Tepper Bank, different. Much. You know what I mean? So it's like what would be the thing that would lure him away from Michigan?

Would it be the bank? Would it be the opportunity? I guess I'm assuming Jim Harbaugh is going to have a lot of options. You know what it is? Go ahead. It's the kind of thing it's you know it when you see it you feel it when it's happening and it just becomes something that you can't resist in the end now we don't know if it's going to be any of them we don't know that yet

we're waiting to see but i think the opportunity is there for an NFL team to step in and make Jim make that decision to leave. And I think it's a combination of all those things he's looking for, Pat. I think he's looking for the right quarterback. I think he's looking for the right ownership group. And I think he's looking for money. It's all those things blended together. And you can talk yourself out of any one of them. I've spoken to enough coaches who've been on the sidelines, who've been waiting for a head coaching job, and something happens, oh, there's a lot of money there, or there's a good quarterback there, or the owner's great, or whatever it may be, and they're lured in.

teams to make sure that Jim feels that way and they treat him that way and they compensate him that way and the opportunity's there and let's see if one of them steps up to do it it's not in here it could be it's not in here it's right here

right here where Zion's tattoo is exactly just a little to the left that's where it is. Right behind that. You know what I mean? Uh-huh. Tony, there's a question for you on some big names. Yeah, Shefty, obviously the NFL picked Dolphins and Bills

for the very last game of the regular season on Sunday Night Football. So I assume they think Tua and Josh Allen, the injuries that they sustained this past weekend, are not going to affect this Sunday's game. Have you heard anything? Because I think it's a stinger, they're saying, for Josh Allen. It's a shoulder also for Tua. Have we heard yet if they're potentially going to be good to go

or not good to go on Sunday night? I expect both guys to be out there. We'll see how the week goes. I don't think that there'll be much of an issue with those quarterbacks. And, you know, the league is looking for the right matchup that survives into Sunday night that no matter what happens the rest of the weekend, that it doesn't detract from the meaning of that game and the interest in that game.

And that's the matchup that no matter what happens before, they're playing for the AFC East title at that point. So that matchup, like as we're watching the games at ESPN on Sunday, we were saying at 3.34, it's going to be Dolphins-Bills on Sunday night. That was a no-brainer for that slot. The health of the quarterbacks is such that I think they'll both be out there and that'll be the game Sunday night.

A lot of implications this weekend. Obviously, that one has huge ones for the Buffalo Beals and the Miami Dolphins. Is it Shover Ohtani? Oh, no. No, no, no. Is it Shover Ohtani? Is it Joeover Otani? Oh, no. No, no, no. Is it Shover Otani? Is it Joe Bover?

Not quite Joe Bover yet. It could be trending in that direction, though, unfortunately. Oh, no. The Bradley Chobb injury is a killer. He's been playing lights out all year. Yeah, Godspeed to him. He's a stud. And, you know, all the things we've been hoping for him all year, pretty much,

has kind of come to fruition this particular year. But there's a lot of people on the Internet saying what the Ravens did to him. He's a stud. And, you know, all the things we've been hoping for him all year, pretty much, has kind of come to fruition this particular year. But there's a lot of people on the internet saying what the Ravens did to him. To a tongue of a loafer. Ravens did that to San Fran in their building, in their bar. Oh, no. Also, it could be Buffalover on Sunday. We don't know. We just don't know yet.

We don't know. Chef, the Canadian accent saying things are over has kind of captivated our entire office at this point. It's gone over. You know what isn't over, though? Our relationship with Shefty. Yep. It's just beginning.

We're very thankful for everything you did for us in 2023. And happy new year. Let's have a great 2024, pal. Don't be scared, though, to every once in a while. Just let something slip. Please. You know what I mean? Just Get your entire career in jeopardy. Say something not supposed to say.

Just let it slip out. And I would like to let you know we reach out to a senior vice president or two at ESPN. We got a spot for you. No problem at all. You got a set for you. What's done is done. I'm trying to work it out. I'd like to do it.

It's been worked out. I'm just telling you, during this conversation, multitasker. You're in there. Come on. You'll remember it forever. Yeah, absolutely. You and Paul Wall? Your entire crew, you're all going to be down there Monday night. You're all going to be at the game? Yeah, and you got your own set.

They're calling it the Shefty set. It's about... Alright, we... I'm not doing any signs. I'm not doing any set. Yeah. It's about. All right. We. I'm not doing any science. No. I'm not doing any science. That's why I asked what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah.

He's doing it. It'll be real big. Anyways, you need to be there. Okay. You're a Michigan man. And we have something set up for you if you need it. If not, have fun at home on that Friday in which divorces are taking a place around the NFL at a rapid rate. Week 18 is coming up.

A lot of shit on the line. Can't wait to see what you're covering. We appreciate you, Shefty. Happy New Year, guys. Appreciate you having me today. Thank you. Hey, people are saying Connor Stallion is going to be down there in Houston. Can't let him be there and you're not, Shefty.

That's a good point. That's a very good point. He needs to have a word with Connor down there. Where was he? He was probably in the Michigan side. He was probably even singing. I'm based in Brightside. There's a picture going around.

I'd be like, hey, Conor, what's going on, man? Ladies and gentlemen, those are sick glasses. I look like him. Yeah, not too bad there. Get a little hat, bend it around. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Shepard. Conor was in the mountains. No, no.

San Gabriel's? There's a picture of him in the stands. I'm sure. He's like the most brown-haired white. Yeah. You can put Connor Stallion's name on a lot of whites. Exactly. He's the definition of a Michigan man.

I think a lot of us would go, oh, yeah, that is him. That is him. I thought we drove by him. He had that sniper with the silencer on his back. We saw a 50-count just walking through 2,000 people on his back. How we doing? Excuse me. How you doing?

Rose Bowl is hell. Yeah. Getting in and out of it. Cool. But, boy, it is beautiful. Did you hear that number at the end? Yeah. Pretty cool.

January 2nd, 2020 for the vibes has begun, and we are incredibly lucky to be here. The Toxic Table is here. Aunt Boss and Connor and Aunt Ty Schmidt. Cool shirt. Hey, appreciate it very much. Actually, you know, I looked into this day in history today, funny enough, and about a year ago.

About a year ago, this day in history., funny enough. And about a year ago. About a year ago. This day in history. We'll just, we'll just. Good start. Good start. Good start. It was a year ago on the day. Flawless.

Absolutely flawless. This is why we don't do it. We try. After the conversation last night, that couldn't have gone any better. You asked me what I was going to do. I was like, I don't know. I don't know if I'll do it. We tried to add a seg at the beginning for Con Man.

It's not a created seg. People have been doing this since the beginning of time. But this day in history for sports, not a bad little gimmick to have. Con Man has stumbled out of the gates on this one a couple times. We talked about this 15,20 minutes last night on the plane Exhausted About 1-2am Eastern time as we're flying

Great flight back Beautiful, you saw the sphere in Vegas? Unbelievable Pilots sprinted back Tone thought we were going down Instead it was just look to your left I had the parachute halfway on Before he got Vegas out of his mouth.

Yeah, but the pilot did go, hey! Yes! Are we dead? Left, sphere. Sphere's right there. Oh, yeah. We heard the alarm up the front. Wee, wee, wee.

He's got his fingerless flying gloves on, so you never know. Those are badass. That guy's never... That guy's... He was awesome. I love him. He grabbed our bags. I mean, he is...

He's pilot Zeke. But, like... Yeah, that's... He definitely does have some zero qualities. It feels like he will be able to cure and solve any problem. That's awesome the guy was fat. No. That's awesome, guys.

That's cool. No. He's a great Jesus. He was not. Nobody said that. That's crazy. You need to start talking a little better about yourself. He was pudgy, but, like...

To be fair... He was not a fat. No. The story about yourself. He was pudgy, but like, to be fair, he was not a fat. No. The story unfolds. He was a pretty good guy. How many neck rolls did he have, guys? No, he's a good guy. I think he's Cuban, and he does everything.

Yeah, and his vibes are like very much like. He's a compliment. You know, this was not a. He is not. He is also a fan. He's husky. He's active husky. You know why?

Because he's going to pick that plane up at some point if he needed to for all of us. That's definitely my favorite pilot, though. Yeah. He's awesome. He's my favorite pilot. And he was pretty abrupt to make sure we saw that sphere. And there was a couple. Two dads were in the back passed out.

Anytime you hear the pilot yelling, not always a great thing. But that was good. The sphere looks so sweet. I'm happy you guys took a couple good naps. Could have turned the lights off for you guys in the back of that thing. No, I wouldn't ask someone to do that. Just playing a little card, celebrating the day. Yeah, we were.

Good games. Good night for me. Learned a new game. And got to get the chance to watch A.J. Hawk play cards. Oh, yeah. The worst. Cheating son of a bitch. The best. It was.J. Holt play cards. Oh, yeah. The worst. Cheating son of a bitch. The best.

It was an experience. I can't wait. One half of the hammer. Dad. Cowboys turn digs. That's Darius J. Butler. Joining us now is a man who is, at the same exact time, very good card player,

also worst card player on earth to play cards with. By far. And it happens at the same exact time somehow. Always gets cards, always gets cards, but has no idea what game you're playing halfway through like the 40th or 50th hand somehow. Does he? Doesn't know rules of the game that he's been playing.

Legitimate, not even seemingly for a bit. Like have to stop the game and explain the game that he's played since he was 14 years old. He used to do all nighters, he said, in high school. In Centerville, Ohio, playing this game. And then now, 2023,

he's almost 40 years old. He's stopping the game. So, what am I... I can't tell if it's a bit still. I still don't know. Joining us now is the worst and best card player at the same exact time aj hawk aj why are you such a scumbag when playing cards because i genuinely feel bad for you i'm like this guy's got actual cte he forgets the rules of the game

from literally one hand to the next that's a part of the gimmick how long have you been doing the cte gimmick no there's no gimmick first off hot star tower two connor with this uh around this day in history shut up and answer the user question all right you're gonna bring it back up or past it by the way was a part of that conversation last night by the way on this day in history a b walked up why'd you say it that was it why'd you ruin it it was gonna come up again'd you ruin it? It was going to come up again. That was the one, Tony. The one time I actually have something that I like in history. You're going to...

Stay sucks. That's what we'll do one year from now. We'll look back on about a year ago, January 2nd. Tony's a real sack of subs for doing that. I'm just going to say that right now you are a sack of subs for ruining by this day in history you sack of subs absolute sack of subs that's a sack of subs another inside joke everybody's part of them uh that was what the pilot described our sandwiches in the back of the plane there'll be a sack of subs in the back. And then there was also 40 sacks of wings.

I love that pilot. He's the best. I absolutely love that pilot. But, AJ, let's not talk about how despicable you are to play cards against. Good energy, though. I mean, it is fun. I will cry laughing at, like, is this a real human or not? Just because I don't play at, like, the same tempo or same pace as you guys,

you can't say it's wrong. I mean, I'll, you know, I think Foxy will let you know. Like, Foxy's a great teammate, so I appreciate him. He really carried me at times throughout that game. Yeah, you guys table-talked the entire game. We're talking about Euchre is the game. It's a Midwestern game. I think it was actually created in Pennsylvania by the Pennsylvania Dutch,

and then when the Pennsylvania Dutch traveled left, they took it to Ohio and Michigan and Indiana and everything. So Pennsylvania actually created this game that the Midwest plays. I had not heard of it, though, until I got to Indiana. It is the greatest card game out there. It's quick.

There's strategy. You've got to get incredibly lucky. But there are a few rules that everybody kind of understands. You don't go out of your way to look at other people's cards. You don't stand up and go over their shoulder. A.J.'s the only guy on the plane standing up playing cards sometimes. He does that. Trying to look at everybody's cards.

Whenever you deal, you don't look at the cards that you're dealing, obviously, because that would be looking at the cards. A.J. always has some fumble with the cards as he's dealing it out there. Then halfway through, because he doesn't know what his teammate has, which is a big part of the game, he's just openly asking. So do we win? What is it, Fox? What is it?

Just openly cheating. And then when you say to him you can't do it, he goes, what, you're going to fight me? Okay. That's the worst person to play against. But love having you at the table. It's fun. Great partner.

It is very entertaining. Very. Darius was learning the game. Yeah. So, obviously, every four minutes when AJ would do something, he was like, yeah, that's not how you're supposed to. That's not how you're supposed to play the game, but that's how he – But it's not against the rules.

It's just you guys don't understand. You guys, like I said, just a different tempo, a different pace than you guys. Yeah. Joining us now is a man who's probably played cards against you in the past. I hope not. And I assume he has very similar experiences.

Joining us now, four-time NFL MVP, an absolute stallion, ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion Aaron Rodgers. Hey, Aaron. Aaron, how are you, bub? Is that a wine? Yeah, I'm down in the wine room today. Where?

I'm at in the wine room today. Where? At my house. I thought the Jets facility had a wine room. I'm like, that's the problem. Everybody's going, you got a wine cellar in the basement. That's at your house? You got, oh! I didn't know you were a wino.

Are you a wino? You see what's over here? This one? Oh, there we go, right there. Oh, yeah, I know i do see that yeah you never gave me that right who's that you oh yeah i did that was uh yeah that's a really good scotch here impossible to carry really tough ah that thing was much larger than i thought it was going to be awkwardly shaped but damn it i've heard it is glorious have you sipped it yet not yet i'm saving that for a really good time, good occasion. Oh, like whenever you play football again.

You know, whenever you're jogging out on a field with an American flag and the people are going bananas. Let's go ahead and hammer some of the scotch that comes in three boxes. Three of them. I think there's three boxes in there. It's a big deal. It's worth it. Before we close this cards conversation with AJ,

have you ever played cards with him? have you ever thought to yourself wow this guy is both the worst human i've ever played cards with but also the most entertaining human i've ever played cards with i assume that's a natural reaction you definitely want to be your partner because as foxy says there's you know there's a little bit of table talk when it comes to AJ's game. Some would say may not be ethically a part of the game of fair card play. But, yeah, I mean, I've been a part of some worse cheats than AJ's cheats. That was in a different game, the game of boo-ray and i won't get into somebody right i don't know how that happened that's like that's when people show up with guns at the locker room that game is the locker room game who cheated

yeah how'd that work what are you talking about fake listen, the individual suffered enough. So I'm not going to put him on blast. But there used to be a great Euchre card game on the plane. I wasn't part of it because I was playing. We were doing some Blu-ray. But it was Matt Flynn and Graham Harrell against, I think it was TJ, Lang, and Josh Titten. And there was zero people playing by the rules in that game. I can promise you that.

Yeah, and they probably all have the same attitude as AJ. Will you fight me? That's what AJ said to me. He said, are you going to fight me? If there's money on the line, I buy the book. Oh, yeah. I bet. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, I'm sure of that. Just like in golf, right, AJ? Oh, I don't cheat in golf. You know that. I don't need to. I'm putting everything out. I don't need gimmies. I don't need sure of that. Just like in golf, right, AJ? Oh, I don't cheat in golf. You know that. I don't need to. I'm putting everything out. I don't need gimmies. I don't need any of that.

You're a big fluffer. Is he? That makes sense because this guy will hit the ball into the woods. Okay, into this ball, into the woods. And then somehow, I think he cuts down trees too. He'll somehow have a direct line at the green 75 yards into the woods with a perfect line. The golf gods bless this and the cards gods

do too. This dude gets cards on a regular basis as well. He's the classic. He'll start the hole with a top flight XL and finish it with a pinnacle gold. Ryan Hawk, you son of a bitch. He's got to be a part of that entire thing

Guy's beating up the lake and throwing balls all over the course Hey, happy new year Aaron How was the weekend? What did you do for the new year? We've seen some And this is, obviously we talk a lot of shit on the show It's been very cool to see what you've been posting On your IG stories

About thought, life, happy, everything like that Feels like you did a lot of reflecting this weekend. Is that real? And how was the new year? I did a lot of sleeping. We had the Friday, Saturday, Sunday off, so I did a lot of sleeping. Watched some football Saturday and Sunday. Had dinner in the city on Sunday.

But, yeah, it took it pretty easy for the most part. I think the new year is always a time for good reflection and you know every now and then I see something on a friend's story or post that I like and I saw this post on a friend's page and there was like 10 different

you know kind of reflections from the year and the one that I posted was that I, you know, met my happiest and saddest self this year. That one just kind of rang true for me because there were some really beautiful moments and some really, you know, difficult, sad moments. So, you know, the cool thing is, you know,

when you post something like that, there's some awesome responses from time to time. So people reaching out and saying, people saying out and saying people saying yeah that hit me too and I went through the same stuff so you know it's nice to nice to connect in that way I love Rumi poetry as well my

godson's middle name is actually Rumi Randall's second son his middle name is Remy. So him and I both love Remy poetry. So every now and then I'll post some of that stuff. But it's interesting.

You get some interesting responses from it. I'm sure people think I'm super weird, which is about everything I do. And there's also people that maybe appreciate some of the occasional non-cliché-ish posts. Aaron, you went into a dark hole for a while to find your true happiness. You went into the jungle to do something that makes you go out the attic and the basement, right? Very cool, yeah. To find yourself in there. Same time.

I think we're all very appreciative of the fact of how open you are about how you feel and, like, you know, mental health and everything. I think you're an inspiration to a lot of people in that particular facet. Now, granted, if people think you're weird, I assume that is definitely true. I assume that is definitely true. And I'm fine with both of those things. I think, you know, I'm trying to live, you know, as authentic and genuine as possible. And I think there are people that you know that have been inspired and I appreciate Jordan Porter talked about it recently and

Jordan I become good buddies the last last couple years there's like I said after you know on the show many times after I talked about I had there were a lot of people that reached out and were interested in the sports world and entertainment world and the entertainment world. And it's been great to be able to connect with those people. Some people who follow through and have done their own journey. Some people who are just not ready for it yet, which is great. But I definitely encourage people to look into it.

I don't think it's smart to maybe recommend it because people always want to blame other people for certain things. But I can speak from my own experience it was life changing, has been life changing and it's going to be something that I look forward to doing in some form or fashion this offseason as well. I can, Aya, is that what you said? Just I mean

I'm sure there'll be some sort of ceremony this offseason, not sure what medicine but there'll be something. Hell yes. We got that toad thing, right? Yeah, the toad thing. I just heard you call it Aya. I feel so cool when I say that. I'm going to walk into a crowd that I know knows. I'm going to say,

we talking Aya? You guys got Aya? We doing the Aya? Or there's some others as well, right? There's some other things that go in there. And what do they do, actually? They're like a mental reset They kind of open your eyes What is it? What is really the benefit of that?

If you could take us back in time a little bit Benefit of what are we talking about? Bufo? Masculine? Bufo? Bufo is the toad I'm a child Different kind of toad. It's a different kind of toad.

Yeah. Listen, all medicines should be respected and revered and done with some reverence. Because medicines can be healing and they also can be poison. So I think you've got to approach each medicine with the proper type of, of reverence. They all have different experiences associated with them. If you want more information, hit me up offline. Okay.

I just hit Aaron up. He'll lead you in the right direction in that whole thing. I, you know, at the beginning of a new year is a good time to have this discussion because there's a lot of people trying to find themselves. Yeah, you bet. That's like one of the things. Isn't that kind of what the AYA and the BOFA and that's like a massive piece of it all, right? Like people are trying to find, I don't want to say find themselves, but like find happiness, right?

Isn't that like kind of one of the steps of the whole process there for some people? I do not have the attention span or the toughness to be able to go through any of this stuff, but for folks that are seeking, that is kind of what it is about, right? For you, that is kind of what it was, right? Yeah, purpose, understanding, connection, joy, you know, a simple psilocybin journey can really open up, you know some some pretty euphoric experiences there's there's a lot of great research out there that's that's uh pairing you know different types of medicine uh some you know plant-based some uh synthetic to help uh so many veterans now people dealing with depression people dealing with pts. There's a lot of great clinics.

And, you know, the alphabet gangsters who control a lot of the medicine, I say that very loosely, that gets cleared, you know, aren't exactly on board with, you know, giving a lot of clearance to some of the stuff yet, but there's a lot of great studies. There's obviously enormous anecdotal evidence of healing, but there's also some incredible studies that are going on. There's some incredible people like the people at MAPS, the MAPS organization that have been doing in this space for 30, 40 years,

trying to get their research out there be able to let people know there's other ways of healing depression PTSD some of these issues mental mental health issues than just getting you on antidepressants for the rest of your life and dealing with all the side effects associated with those so you know you know, it's fun to be able to, like, I got to speak at the MAPS conference this year, and that was really awesome. Were you wearing a leather jacket? Was that where you were wearing a leather jacket? Remember how cool you looked?

That was a Bitcoin one. Oh, which is still up if you bought it at one time. Yeah, it was good. I'm not sure. I was probably, yeah, wearing something black at the MAPS. I'm not sure exactly what I wore. Did you have one of those cool necklaces on? I'm like AJ.

I'm not sure exactly what it was. Did you have one of those cool necklaces on? I'm like AJ. I'm like AJ. AJ is, you know, you see him like yesterday on the sidelines of the game. If you had no idea, you know, just you taking a stab in the dark, what's AJ Hart going to be wearing on the sidelines? Black long-sleeved shirt is, you know, a really safe bet. For whatever reason, he isn't like showing off his hairless arms that he shaves um but you know he's always going to be in black hey and his legs too i saw that because he had his pants on and when he was standing up to look at my cards and sitting

back down his pants kind of rode up a little bit in the calves i saw some good definition at the bottom of that calf fantastic that's a shaved leg right there i used to shave my leg look at how good those calves look. Trimmed, yeah. Use hair clippers. Boom. Take it, everything. Yeah, of course you're not.

But he's like Christina's husband in The Other Guys. Sure. Sure. Shaved. I've seen it. This is fun. Guy has a beard. Aim for the bushes.

Yeah. Mark Wahlberg. Oh, hey. Will Ferrell. Will Ferrell. Will Ferrell. Will Ferrell. Samuel L. Jackson. Oh, we're doing gun tests?

Yeah, yeah. Death pop. Death pop. Death pop. Death pop. When's the last time you did a death pop? Yeah, I know that. September 08?

Yeah, you're right. That is who AJ is. Anyways, AJ, your question for O'Aaron Rogers, pal. Aaron, I wonder if the Jets PR reached out to you at all. We saw Kirk Cousins kind of lead the school chant, shirtless, wearing a chain, his son was there. Have you given any thought to possibly doing that? We know that your physique was obviously one of the things

you worked out really hard going into this season. I'm sure you still are jacked. Would you do this, what Kirk did? Well, we don't have a whole pregame chant. Whoa! Watch your mouth! That guy used to run towards We don't have the clapping.

We have three specific people, Fireman Ed and two other guys who do the J-E-T-S. I think they're pretty territorial about that stuff. That's their shit.

You do a shirtless with a fireman's hat on? You walk over there in some tighty-whities, fireman head, maybe jersey, firefighter helmet on, you'll be welcomed. I think that there's rumors of increased ticket prices for the Jets this year. Maybe to offset some of that, wouldn't it be a great idea to have, because of the firefighter connection to New York, a calendar, New York Jets fireman-style calendar? Yeah.

That would sell pretty good. So we'll get 12 ish maybe more guys to do this calendar that we can put out um make the pr guy do it what's his name jared make him do it too yeah jared or eric i think eric gilfan he would maybe put him on the cover yeah get some coaches involved in it we can get ron middleton get Ron Middleton to do it. He'd be fantastic. Sala for sure would want to do it. Sala would want to do it. Hack it.

Brant Boyer, special teams guy, hack it. Maybe they would definitely do it. Hack it on the cover. And in December is Woody. Yeah. December is Woody. Chain on only with the firefighter pants on. No shirt.

Shirtless, yeah. Maybe a jet speedo. Yeah. On his head? You're talking about underneath the thing? Speedo, yeah. From what I've seen with that chain, probably going to need a triple XL speedo on that Woody Johnson.

At least. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know what I'm talking about? Hang the chain from it. You know what I'm talking about? Someone's got a great idea. Knee-high socks, too.

Especially if they're going to race. Well, then you've got to worry about the top of that thing getting hit. You've got to tuck. You've got to tuck and roll. You've got to tuck and roll. Yeah, you never know if the inside. It's like Roy Hibbert. Roy Hibbert said one time that he put Icy Hot on his knees

and he's never going to do that again Because obviously What happened I'm like Roy that's not normal Yeah that's just you Roy Roy said Hey just a little tip Don't ever do this

Because it's going to happen I'm like Roy You and about four other people On earth Having that problem right now I think Greg Oden did respond Like yeah don't do it And then Woody Johnson was like

Boys I've been waiting You know That's kind of what I've been Throwing the club Alright We're in the club. All right, we're running on two hours of sleep. Terrence has a question for you about football, and this is a big topic. Big topic of conversation.

Yeah, we were talking about it earlier with obviously what happened at the end of that Cowboys-Lions game. If you had any experience with that, obviously, you know, somebody reporting, somebody getting confused. And where do you think the blame should fall there? Is it on the ref? Is it on Detroit because they were trying to get a little too cute with it? where do you think the blame should fall there? Is it on the ref? Is it on Detroit because they were trying to get a little too cute with it? What do you think about that?

I was part of the film area, DB. When the NFL got too cheap to pay their referees what they're due and hired a bunch of people that didn't deserve to be on a high school field. They couldn't even ref my JC games.

Respect to NorCal junior colleges because that's a high level of football. We wouldn't want those referees reffing our games. Not as good as Indy in Kansas, but. Back in 2002. I don't know what it is now. 2002, California, especially Northern California, had the best football in the junior college ranks. But listen, there's been a lot of talk about the play,

and I think everybody wants a little bit of accountability for sure. Now, I don't understand. I don't understand why three guys went to the referee. I saw Sewell went, Decker went, and 70 went, right? And I don't know if that was the whole. You see here Sewell and Decker, right? And then 70's running on. Now, I don't know what Brad was thinking here.

It seemed like he left before what could be said. But I'm going to focus as – listen, a lot of these times, there's certain plays that would negate this whole thing, right? So second and 14, they throw the ball in completion, right? So let's talk about the 40 seconds that could have been lost. But I didn't want to focus on that. I want to focus on first and 10 after the interception i believe there's a five or six year carry by pollard and they call it tripping when it was hutchinson where reese was put out to try and trip the back they called the

tripping on dallas have you guys seen this yeah i think i saw the clip i didn't know the full context though so first of all i don't think it should have saw the clip. I didn't know the full context, though. So, first of all, I don't think it should have been a trip because you didn't get him down. Now, there are trips that happen and have happened. I mean, T.J. Watt got a sack on me a few years ago when he totally tripped me in a car. That was a tackle with his leg.

Yeah, exactly. But trips happen, I think, a lot more than you think. And that was an attempted trip. But because they threw the flag, it should have been on Hutchinson. That half distance to the goal, that's a first down. There's 40 more seconds or a timeout. I don't think the situation would have even been close had they just made this

correct call. So this is, yeah, on the 29-yard line. Pollard runs, what? Okay. So he gets six to the, yeah, on the 29-yard line. Pollard runs, well, okay, so he gets six to the maybe seven to the 22. We're going to add 15 to that. Now it's first and

10 on the 11, right? They call this penalty on the long on 89 there. Layton. I don't understand how they do that. It's a total whiff of a call. Just a total miss. But also, Aiden didn't actually get

touch so it would have been better in the situation for dallas's second two and a half right because then you have a chance to an extra down for a first down we're not starting back on a first down right where they can then you have three downs now you have second down you can get another first down now you basically get an extra down extra 40 seconds or make them call time out shouldn't even in this situation um i think you know the response from referees like they're going to protect their own john perry's protecting obviously um his own i will say what uh i did see what mcdc said that does happen all the time they will coaches will go to the referee before the game say here's the plays we may be running just be alert this is the formation we're gonna do this

is the guy that we want eligible i think there was talk that he may have like even drawn it up for them that 100 happens all the time they always go to them and talk about what what trick plays they're gonna run you know I think as players we know who the best refs are and you know like I say this guy's name a lot but he was the best Gene's territory was the best and I think there was too many times over the years where it wasn't a true meritocracy for the playoffs. Because you'd be in these games in the playoffs, and it should be, you know, you got four wildcard games, right, the first weekend, and then four divisional games, and then two, right? So do you really need to have 10 county at Shugo, 11 of the 16 or 17 crews, I guess the 17, I think 17 crews be represented?

No, you don't. You don't. You just have the same, maybe the top four, or maybe you go to six at the most. But it should be the top of the top. And Gene, and what I'm saying is that Gene and his crew should have been reffing every single route. I don why that makes that doesn't make any sense you're giving like important playoff games to in this example let's say the first four games of the the wild card weekend right you're going to give uh you know the what rated crew you're going to give the the

seventh or what would be the eighth ninth tenth 9th, 10th, and 11th rated crews those games? Those are important games. And then you're going to have the divisional round and you're going to give it to the 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th rated crews? Why? If that's the case, why not have 1, 2, and 3 and 4 work the first weekend?

It's because everybody's soft. Or maybe 3, 4, 5, and 6. It's because everybody's soft Aaron. That's why. Everybody's soft. Because maybe 3, 4, 5, and 6. It's because everybody's soft, Aaron. That's why. Everybody's soft. Because you get a game. You get a game. You get a game. You worked hard this year. You get a game. Oh, I'm sorry, Heartbreak. You don't get to do the playoffs. You get a game.

That's why. That is the reason. What I'm saying is wrong. It should be a meritocracy. It should be the best crews. And if that's the same 4 or 5 crews, so be it. Look at the NBA. It's the same couple crews once you get into the final rounds of the playoffs, right, because it should be. I don't know if it is, but it should be the top-rated guys.

It should be the same in the NFL because we know who the best crews are. And actually part of the problem over the years has been in the Super Bowl, you create this, like, super crew that actually doesn't work together. Like, there's a reason that crews work well together is because communication usually coming from the white cap and the umpire, you know, unless there's a veteran guy, um,

on the field. And there are some great veteran line judges back to the side judges, but you know who the best referees are. And sorry. And when you get into a game, you're, you're like, Oh, oh you know we have this guy is the line just you know you can talk to him yeah this guy's the umpire okay you know he's a little sensitive maybe this guy's a white cap you know you just know you know who the people are but

you also know who the best ones are and i've said as many times too there was in the last five six years there's been a ton of the whitecaps who've retired who were at the top of their game. A lot of them grew in John Perry, grew into TV because they make a lot of money. They're not the ones working for the league. And it's a problem with the officiating. But, again, it should be meritocracy. The best guys should get the best games.

I think they're going to fix it. I do believe. All the right questions are being asked to the right people from what I've been being told. So I think the NFL understands it's an issue. The meritocracy thing, that just feels like a mindset of being soft and like, thank you for your service this year and this is what you've earned and everything like that. As opposed to like, we only have a certain amount of games and you've got to earn your way into it. Which is, meritocracy happens in professional sports.

It's one of the only places it continues to take place. Everywhere else you've got to know somebody. Potential nepotism takes place. Networking takes place. You're able to have a gig. It's like professional sports is one of the last real meritocracies. Why not do it with the refs? Come on.

Come on, especially in the biggest league. I think that's a good call. They have said that Brad Allen will not be reffing in the playoffs, allegedly on the internet. We have not heard that from Goodell. And we also heard that Brad Allen was not a part of the pregame meeting with MCDC when he was drawing up the internet. We have not heard that from Goodell. And we also heard that Brad Allen was not a part of the pregame meeting with MCDC when he was drawing up the place. Somebody else was.

They didn't relay the proper message to Brad, I guess. And now you got a whole new ker-shuffle to break down in this entire story. Yeah, a lot of finger pointing. No, but it's not just this, though. Because remember, when you point one finger, there's three fingers pointing right back at yourself. Remember that, asshole. Rich Rodriguez. Okay?

Yeah. So you got to do this one whenever you're playing. You got to make sure. And I did that to Rich Rod as soon as he said that. I said, well, and then it was out there then. Why are you such an asshole in this thing? But it is real. You got to take a little accountability on yourself.

But we're in a world where a lot of people, the more layers you have, the more different people you can blame. It happens in everything almost. It's a billion-dollar business, and there's multi, multi millions of dollars bet on this every single week. And there's franchises and fan bases and players' careers and coaches' careers that depend on these games. And you're talking about taking a home playoff game away from a city. That's an eight-figure, probably, economic boom to that city.

It needs it. I mean, think about it from that city. It needs it. Think about it from that standpoint. What happened to us in 12, we had a home game taken away from us by a freaking terrible call and the NFL didn't want to actually give the refs what they deserve.

It took that game, if you guys remember, the next week, what happened? It was awesome. The regular refs were back. So, again, that call, the way it was handled, was messed up. However, it was also should never have been a tripping call on Dallas. So what are we talking about here? It is just cut and dry.

Like the NFL, the refs screwed the Lions. Now, there was another game in Dallas a while back in the playoffs. Oh, yeah. It had a controversial call. I think Foxy can probably speak to this one as well. Oh, yeah. Fourth quarter, Stafford to Pettigrew, pass interference, refs call it, and then they go wait no no no wave

it off Detroit loses a playoff game oh that's because it was Detroit they didn't want yeah that's why they picked it up and they said are we really can't do that in Jerry world again can't do that there's does it not seem like there's a lot of more outspoken conspiracy NFLers rigged conspiracy theorists showing up? Hey, last year, Aaron, I know you were in the middle of it last year and playing and everything, and there was a lot going on. Last year, if you live on the Internet, you've got to be able to follow a lot of different parts of the Internet. Yeah. You know? And shout out to the whole Internet.

I appreciate the love. Lucky to be a part of different parts of the internet. Yeah. You know? And shout out to the whole internet. I appreciate the love. Lucky to be a part of it. The whole internet had a good time the other day. But like the NFL is scripted thing was starting to cook in every part of the internet. Okay? Every single, every person or group that we follow from every different group of the internet, they were all starting to really start.

The NFL is screwing us. Especially with gambling happening. And then it grew to a fever pitch about week 14. Week 15 last year got real loud. So much so that the NFL was like. In the face of controversy. You lean into it. They make the commercial this year. About the NFL script and everything.

But then as things continue to happen. Like this. And other stuff that happens in football. It like somebody's writing this thing oh yeah and it's to screw me over every single time that is literally the people that are talking about it and it happens to be this person is detroit more often than not yeah you don't deserve it foxy it's terrible you don't deserve it foxy you don't deserve it i will say i will say, Pat and fellas, that if the Super Bowl is Baltimore and San Fran, and I'll tell you what, that Super Bowl 59 emblem better have Jet Green on it because I know you've seen that one, Connor.

That's a real interesting, interesting thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's not get into that today. What are we talking about? What happened? What's Jet 59? You just tied the Ravens and the Niners. Don't worry.

Into Super Bowl 59 into something. Well, not like the logos. Just look at the colors. Team colors that have been in the Jet. Look at the colors. Super Bowl. The Ravens and the Niners. That's purple.

That's red. Bring it up. Bring it up, Foxy or somebody back there. Seat's on it. We have Super Bowl 58 The emblem, put it on the screen And then bring up 57 and 56 Does that have something to do with the Epstein list that came out?

Feels like it That's supposed to be coming out soon That's supposed to be coming out soon Look at this guy, he's been waiting in his wine cellar I've been waiting in my wine cellar for this thing A lot of people Including Jimmy Kimmel are really hoping that doesn't happen. Please!

Alright, obviously a clip from this particular program was run on Jimmy Kimmel's show whenever Aaron brought up the list and then Jimmy mocked him for it. Aaron has not forgotten about that, but here we are sitting right in front of that nice bottle of scotch.

What do you say? I'm waiting to celebrate something. He's been waiting. I'll tell you what, if that list comes out, I definitely will be popping some sort of bottle. You've been calling for it for a few years now. Anyone else notice this?

Oh my God. Oh wow. They've known. They've known for years. Like I'm saying, that 59 better be Jet Green. That's all I'm saying. Interesting. Yeah, well, unless it's Colts Blue.

Remember, we got Anthony Richardson coming. Good man. Patriots Blue might be there, too. I don't know. You've been jumping on the minstrel train, I feel like. I love him. I do. I love him.

He shakes his shoulders. Team loves him. He'll throw a pick. Who cares? He'll just go right in. I do. He shakes his shoulders. He'll throw a pick. Who cares? He is awesome. This guy is phenomenal. What they did to the Raiders this weekend, I did not expect to happen. But with Minshew Mania running wild and Shane Steichen's big-ass brain,

why not? Is that your Franklin's leading NFL in tackles? We got a team. But with that being said, we drafted the future number four overall. Gardner wins the Super Bowl this year. I feel like Tate didn't get enough

targets this weekend. He didn't. I appreciate you saying that. 21. You need a few more. I didn't see much of the game because it wasn't on any of the TVs that we're at. Also, couldn't see the first half of Dolphins-Ravens, biggest game of the weekend. We can't change the channel.

We can't change the channel once the games have been set. We were told at said sports bar. But they literally just changed the Colts-Raiders game off the TV that was right in front of me, which is why we sat there and they moved it to another place. So they could change it and they didn't change it. Then our guy Sean, shout out to Sean, had nose ring, great hair. Sean went to the back. He did some maneuvering for us, so we saw the second half of Dolphins-Ravens,

even though he broke code there at said sports bar that we were at. Yeah, and he also told us that the manager is a big, dumb dipshit, and that's not on him. It was on the manager. Oh, we don't know if he said that or not. I assume they're going to hear everything that we say here. Sean was like a promotion, not a fire. I mean, Sean did great work there.

But anyways. Question, AJ. Speaking of that game, what do you think when you're down by 30 with four minutes left in the game and the starting defense is still out there and your stud tears his ACL? Yeah, that was not – I was watching that live and I saw it. I knew instantly it could not be good for Chubb. But I don't know.

Like, when do you sub everybody out? Like, that's the thing. Everybody doesn't really have – there's not as many backups as people think, too. Like, you can't just wholeheartedly take everybody out, but you can. I would definitely pick and choose and take some dudes out at that time. I mean, I think, you know, if you take out him, you take out Ramsey, for sure, you're down by 30.

What if they wanted to, though? What if they said no? You know, guys will fight and say, no, I don't care. I want to stay and stick it out with the boys. Like, they could have done that as well. And McDaniel pulls down his joggers and he says no. Listen, it's different on the other side. Like, if Miles Garrett stays in the game up 17 because he wants to get a couple sacks,

he knows he's going to be throwing it. That's a different battle you're going to fight. Still, probably shouldn't be in the game. The game's over. It's an under-a-minute drive. But down 30 when you know you're just going to run the ball? I don't know. What about Lamar?

Lamar was still out there when they were up a bunch. That was our first thought because you end up being on TV. We couldn't hear it, obviously. But we see the score, and then we see Lamar? Lamar was still out there when they were up a bunch. And that was like our first thought because he ended up being on TV. We couldn't hear it, obviously. But we see the score, and then we see Lamar on the field, and it's like, what are we doing? And then I think to myself, well, everybody's killing his stats this year. Everybody's like, his stats aren't good because he has rested in the fourth quarter early in the year as well because they've dominated people.

And then he ends up healthy, of course, because he's Lamar Jackson. And he goes, what, 350? 351 or something like that? 18 to 21. Five tuds. I'll tell you what stat was good. That was three incompletions and five touchdowns. Yeah. Anytime you throw more tuds than you have incompletions,

pretty good day at the office, don't you say, Aaron? I don't know if you saw, but I saw this. He had a perfect rating, and then Huntley came in and threw a touchdown, and he had a perfect rating as well. So I think he may only throw one pass or a couple passes, but they both had perfect ratings. Baltimore has been on a miraculous run here. Niners in Niners, then Dolphins come to town,

and they just neuter both of them. Just absolutely neuter both of them. Tone actually has a question for you. Yeah, Aaron, about the Ravens and the Niners, since they both just locked up the one seed, and if they sit guys this weekend, they'll have two weeks off. How do you feel about that? Like, as a quarterback, do you like having that much time off?

Would you like to play in Week 18? What are your thoughts on that? I think it's good. You know, I think it's one of those ridiculous media talking points where it's a win-win. If you play them and a guy gets hurt, you're an idiot. You should have never played these guys. And then the other win is, oh, if they start a little bit slow, if they're rusty in the divisional round, oh, you should have played them in week 18.

You know, it's ridiculous. The fact is you've gotten this far with these studs take care of them sit them down you don't need to play if you're not playing for anything um you know if if anything you want to give them a little bit of work so it's not you know two whole weeks without playing play the first half we did that a couple years ago in detroit we played the first half um but there's not a lot that can come from playing, I don't think. I don't believe in the whole rust thing. You're going to be hosting the playoff game in your stadium,

rested against a team that's won the playoff game already because they're some of the highest seed remaining or lowest. And I look at basically the team with the worst seeding left in the playoffs is going to come visit you. And it's the game you're going to be favored to win in your place. So I don't believe in all wrestling. You've got to save your players from themselves sometimes. And I don't think there's a whole lot to be gained by playing those guys.

My rookie year, we were undefeated until we chose to lose. We started resting like Peyton and Jeff and everybody that was good at football, seemingly. And then we rolled Curtis Painter out there behind like every swing offense alignment we had. And I think a couple of backup tight ends were playing tackle. And we were going to lose the final two games to the Jets and to the Bills. But I think the boys were pissed afterwards because they could have had an undefeated season. That was kind of the thought.

The rest was nice, but also potentially doing something historic was a decision that wasn't kind of weighed i don't think with all the players i assume peyton had some say yeah i i'm not 100 sure i wasn't a part of those conversations i was just a rookie but like there is different situations i think that changed that right don't you think like if you're going for history i remember like robert mathis a lot of the boys were like history. I remember like Robert Mathis, a lot of the boys were like Freeney, I think. 72 Dolphins are the only ones that have done that. But

if any of those guys were to get hurt, we didn't have a very deep team. We would have been shit out of luck going into the playoffs and the entire season would have been ruined. So it's a fine balance there at the end. I'm happy. I don't have to make that decision. I think it's that for sure. I would want to play if we're undefeated. Definitely want to play. No doubt. Got it.

The other reason to play is if there's an all-time record to be broken with your organization. So we had a situation like that in Detroit. I think Devontae needed 15 yards or something there. And I wanted to be the one throwing. So, you know, if Tate's going to go out there and play, I wanted to play. So we were already scheduled to play at least a half that day, so it wasn't even a question. That'd be another

reason to play. You're talking about the history of a franchise that goes back to the beginning of football itself. Being able to be a part of history would be pretty special. We were already going to play, but if we weren't scheduled to play and Tay's like, I want to play to break this record, I would have said, I'm going to play with you.

It was cool to watch that type of situation for Tay. I assume you guys lined him up at running back, had him play a little wheel. Because we had Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark playing running back against the Buffalo Bills because a couple guys needed like two catches. Somebody needed like five yards receiving for like another thousand yard year, a hundred catches a year. They were literally drawing up plays in the snow seemingly. And by the way, we just walked right down the field.

I mean, it was just like right down the field score. All right. Now who do we need? Dallas needs to get a cup. All right. Got him at running back, tailback. Got him slotted out. He's going in there.

You need how many catches for? We right down the field again. And then boom, sideline the rest of the time in the middle of a blizzard. And it was, it was fantastic. I'm like, these dudes were just playing games with these people out here but congrats there's incentives on the line money on the line history on the line those conversations are all going to come to the forefront later this week i think we're gathering all the incentives that can be earned this last weekend because that's a big deal on who's going to be motivated a little bit more speaking of motivation mr, Mr. Playtime incentives too, right?

Playtime incentives would be interesting and catches and yards and all those things. Yeah, you need to play 75% of the snaps. Then when you get to 73% of the snaps, they start forecasting. They're like, we're going to arrest you. It doesn't sound like you're... That's happening too. That doesn't sound like it. It's health reasons. It sounds like

you're trying to screw me a little bit. No, no, no. We're looking out for you. I need about 15 more snaps. I'm doing math here. Multi-billion dollar business. Sometimes they're playing games with a little $50,000 bonus. It's the best. It's the highest level, man.

Remember, it's the highest level, Aaron. There's no greater league than the NFL. Ty has a question for you, though, about Mr. Unlimited. Yeah, Aaron, just curious if you've paid any attention to kind of the shitstorm that's going on in Denver right now. We heard Russ came out and talked and basically said, like, hey, yeah, the Broncos did approach me

about restructuring my contract or waiving my injury guarantee or whatever the case may be. Do you think all the stuff that's happened, like was that laid out by Sean Payton to him when he first got there? Like, hey, I don't really want you to be my guy going forward. We'll try to make it work. If it doesn't work, I'm going to get rid of you. And also, like now a lot of people are saying like, hey, this is dirty pool.

This is, you know, negotiating in bad faith. And it's going to really affect guys wanting to come play for the Broncos moving forward? What's your take on that whole situation and do you think that's true? Do I think what part is true? How much does that affect guys wanting to go

play for Denver moving forward? That's a great question. I think people that are just money motivated and and there's always in frames that is basically there's the guys that want to get paid and there's guys who want to get paid and be on a good team so guys that want to just get paid it won't make a difference i think that's that's just the way the nfl is guys who care about character and chemistry. And look, the NFL is a great profession. It's a tough business.

And this type of stuff is probably more commonplace than you would think. Obviously, we're talking about a premier player here in some bizarre circumstances. I think anybody can probably look at the situation objectively and say that Russ probably wasn't Sean's first choice. It definitely paints the last however many weeks in a way different light though, doesn't it? Oh yeah. From play calling, from interactions they had on the sidelines.

Listen, there's an old adage. the enemy of my enemy is my friend. And Russ and I have had some battles over the years. And Seattle and Green Bay, you know, were two of the premier teams in the 2010s, especially. And we had some battles over the years. And there was a great rivalry, and we couldn't seem to beat them other than in the Fillmary game in Seattle. They couldn't beat us in Green Bay. But I think we have, you know, more of a common enemy based on some comments that have been said about, you know, a dear friend of mine

and then seeing this come out. So my heart actually goes out to Russ for dealing with this. I think, you know, say whatever you want about him. Like, I think he's handled this pretty well. I definitely applaud him for speaking on it because it's a tough situation. And, you know, he basically said what he said, said what went down, which is pretty scandalous that they would do that. Now, obviously, you know, the team would probably say,

oh, we're just trying to get him to move the date on the injury clause or whatever. It's still crazy to, like, threaten we're going to sit you if you don't do this. Franchise quarterback. Franchise quarterback. If that actually happened. And it's not like he's having a shit year. Like, you know, he definitely is playing better than he did last year

and taking care of the football. And they went on a run, too. I mean, they lost with three or four, but they won, what, five or six in a row? Yeah, five. So, and in the midst of this, it's him knowing that they just want to want to like bench him and get rid of him so kudos to Russ for dealing with this shit

situation and you know that's about all I'm going to say about everybody else in Denver and that's all I got to say about that way to go Russ I do like that the common hatred of a man can potentially bring you two together even more. It's glorious. You know what I mean?

That is a glorious thing that's been happening since the beginning of time. A lot of wars actually have had alignment because of said thing. Well, we hate each other originally, but we don't hate each other as much as we hate that person. So we are going to now. We thought hate can really bring a lot of love, can't it?

Maybe you and Russ will be able to share a little moment or two here because the situation's brewing with Sean Payton. At his age, everything he's accomplished, and he's handling it right. You said whenever he addressed it, he had a Broncos hat on, was standing in front of his Broncos locker. Yeah, so they just basically told me they wanted to steal $37 million from me. Yeah, that's all.

That was pretty much why. That was a surreal scene there almost, you know. You could tell he was emotional about it. You know, it affected him. Which, of course it would. Hey, great win against Kansas City. But we're going to bench your ass unless you move the shit around. Because your knee, we don't need it, you know.

You can't have it. We need everything to stay. We want you to the shit around. Because your knee, we don't need it. You know? You can't have it. We need everything to stay. We want you to play. Bad. But we don't want you to get hurt right now. We're free, though. Yeah. It was just the front officer, right? It wasn't... Sean Payton. It wasn't Sean Payton.

So maybe there isn't an enemy that you guys share. No, we know Sean Payton's got control. He's calling the shot. Oh, yeah, that's why he signed there. The alignment. And if Sean Payton wins next year or the year after, now they're going to have to eat a massive dead cap next year. So if they're able to win, there will be some real salary cap gymnastics that they'll have to do.

But if they win two, three years down the road, nobody will remember. Nobody will remember. But the man who founded the Danger Witch is going to remember this. Oh, yeah. And I can't wait to see his comeback trail, his revenge tour next year. As we end here on ESPN and our first show of the year of 2024, we can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Who knows if one year from now we're still able to do this.

Sure. I hope. If we're still able to create a terrible crop ass show. For sure. We're going to try every single day from now until then to keep doing it. Have a great one. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice.

It might change their life. Goodbye. Nailed it. Aaron, professional send-off. One for one on the year. That's right. Yeah. That's all you can ask for.

Two for two, actually. First hour. True. Yeah. Let's go. Let's go. Good start. Pretty exhausted, too. Pretty exhausted. Actually, it was a long one, Aaron. True. Yeah. Go. Go. Good start. Pretty exhausted, too.

Pretty exhausted. Actually, it was a long one, Aaron. Actually, it was a long day. Yeah, I give you guys credit, man. I will say, you know, once that first game was over, I went to the main broadcast feed. Oh, you missed out. You missed out, brother.

Great moments. It was Jover. Yeah. Jover for those guys. Aaron Rover. Jover for Deuce. I got it. I think they did good.

We didn't see any of it. I mean, we're on a plane. But we saw one part. It was pretty sweet. Yeah, we did. We appreciate Cole Kublik, Harry Douglas, that boy Bad, obviously, Colt McCoy, Sacho. Way to go out there, boys. Appreciate you guys. I didn't get to see

any of it. Aaron didn't see any of it. I mean, so we're not 100% sure, but I'm sure they had a blast. It's crazy just standing down there. Can't see shit, really. Have no idea if it's a six-yard gain or a 30, honestly. If they're running a straight line, you have no idea that. That field was beautiful

though. AJ, wasn't that, that was beautiful. That kid's leg, do we know what happened to Burton? Was it Burton's leg? Yeah, it was. We do not. Have we got an update? I have not. Because if, like literally, if that's not a real serious injury, then the grass conversation could

have a real one, you know what I mean? Can we talk about one thing that really chaps my ass about football in general? Yeah, let's get your ass unchopped. Listen, when you're playing on turf, you can wear all the plastic molded cleats you want. But when you're playing on grass where screw-ins the quarterback for alabama right the name is milroy yep yep got a bright future i mean he's and i watched a decent amount of alabama games this year and watching him mature

as a pastor and trust his legs he's dynamic i. I think he's going to be – he reminds me of Lamar, and that's with all due respect to Lamar because Lamar's about to be a two-time MVP. Like that – you know, his game, I think he's going to be really, really good. But wear seven studs, screw-ins, when you're playing on grass. There were multiple times where he slipped, and he's wearing plastic cleats on grass. And the grass already, if you watched it, it looked like it was newer style, right? So it was, I don't know

if it was slick or just like a lot was coming up, but multiple people in that game were wearing the wrong cleats. Our guys, I can't even believe it, were wearing the wrong cleats, were playing in Cleveland on grass and they're wearing plastics. Put some goddamn 7- studs on

and wear the friggin' screw-ins because that's what you wear on rides. I mean, I can't believe I gotta say this. What are we even talking about here? Nice reminder. It's so easy. And everybody was bitching about the Super Bowl last year, right?

People were bitching about the Super Bowl last year and they were wearing moldings. The Sodfather got kind of cucked in that entire thing. Screwed. Sodfather didn't get an opportunity to really put his hands on the grass for his last Super Bowl. And with the Rose Bowl, I don't know what the grass normally is. They say it's the greatest grass of all time. It looks that way.

Tastes delicious. The rain... What's that? It tastes delicious. Legit tastes like a caprese salad. We were eating it all day day just gnawing on it supervisor and green bay allen used to say that grass looks supple oh yeah it was well it sounds like it was more supple than i could have even imagined while i was looking at that delightfully delicious looking grass but like it rained heavily and they had it covered but not on the side the side wasn't covered so I do wonder

with rain in Southern California at the level in which it was coming down within the 24 hours of the game I wonder what the whole process was because if you remember at the Super Bowl the sod father came out who's 98 years old, has done every Super Bowl since football has started. There he is. Boom. And he said, this sod kid who's taking my spot, cucking me, he doesn't know. He kept me watering it and then covering it for three days.

You're basically baking a puddle in there. Come on. You're making a soup. He made a soup. He said, that's why I'm the father. He's the fucking kid. But nobody let me do anything. I'm just the old bastard who doesn't know anything.

Pretty much what the sod father said. As they kicked him out the door and forced him out of his way. So, I do appreciate the fact that you're like, let's put a little bit more onus on maybe what we've been... Decisions that have been made in every sport that plays on grass since kids. Hey, what are we wearing? Long ones today or short ones today? Molded or

studs? And you even said that, AJ, yesterday as we were watching, because there was a run up the middle Jalen had where he wanted to stop and just, that was a third down. It was a big third down. It was early in the game. It was a big third down early in the game. But I will say, I'm really glad that because of the

World Cup coming, that we're finally getting a grass in so many stadiums. Shout out to those soccer boys. Thank you, football. Thank you, lads. Thank you, football, for taking care of the boys. J.J. Watt has said, though, a couple times, and he's in the soccer world, that his team sucks. Have they won?

Have they won? No, they had a hard- Yeah, everyone else around them is winning, too, and the pitch at Turfmoor has never been the nicest of graphs. Okay, so they're just getting worse somehow. You know, it's going to be better for the story, though. You know what I mean? Buy the hump.

Yep. Don't buy the dip. No, non-soccer. Buy at the top. It's different. You can enjoy the ride down because that's the best part of the roller coaster. And then, you know, inevitably, it's going and trying to get back to even there. And that's kind of what's happened with JJ.

He said he's not going off the ship, but his wife's soccer player, obviously, he's what's happened with JJ. He said he's not going off the ship, but his wife's soccer player, obviously, he's been around the soccer world. He said some of those soccer fields that they're putting on top of those turf fields for grass, he said those are cropped too. Like, you don't want, he said he's thinking that some of those World Cup grasses

are going to be cropped. Like, it's not good because it's just put on top of cement or on top of turf. It's an issue in not having it grounded, I think. Like having it actually, you know, being a full ground. Living in the grass, yeah. One with the earth. Yeah, living, I guess.

Like J.J. McCarthy was doing. Yeah, did you see his ass? Did you see him? He was doing a full thing. Did you see that? It worked. He was a little meditation inside of it. It was awesome, yeah.

We said he needs some eye work. It did work. I feel like, Pat, you're like a stoop dog in Starsky and Hutch. You know? You don't know a lot about golf, but you know a hell of a lot about grass. Amen. Speaking of grass,

we need to stop smoking the stuff off the streets. They're putting fentanyl in it. That's not a joke. I just learned this. I just learned this. This is a real problem in the modern day and age i guess with these kids it's a some people are describing fucking china ccp it's china but if it wasn't china and it was us they would say it was china

so whoever it is you know there's also i saw tom cruise flying a plane for the cia yeah with some stuff down into the Central America area and he took off on a runway that was certainly too small for that plane to take off. So there's been some drugs. Beer. American Made. Great movie. Tom Cruise. What's that? One of the

best. Yeah, the best. Anyways, they're putting fentanyl on everything, man. Even like weed. Inedibles. Why? Trying to kill people. That's what I was told by by a dog why would a dealer why would a dealer want to kill their clients though it's not the dealer ccp trying to kill americans yeah like an attack they're saying it's like an attack on like an entire generation they're putting this fentanyl it could just be the alphabet gangsters in this country you've said that a couple times you feel

cool when you said it? You got to. It's true. I mean, do we need to go through the criminal history of each organization? We can. I can do it real quick. Come on, man. Actually, let me open my drawer here. I got a report from two years ago I did.

Well, I had my Tovid. Nobody was letting me. Listen to this, CIA. You want to hear this? Today should be a big day for you guys. Can't wait to hear what we're chatting about next week. Aaron, have an incredible week. What are we doing?

Are we still playing football? Are we doing seven-on-seven? Are we practicing? What do we got going on? Oh, I don't know. We got a few days left. If there's full-speed practice, I'll be doing it this week. Trying to pick off some passes on the jog through defense as usual.

Yeah, this is always the, you know, the last week of the year is always strange when you're out of it. It's only been a few times in my career, thankfully. But the weirdest day is, you know, kind of the Tuesday after the exit meetings, you meetings, where you have exit meetings on Monday and there's just nobody around. So that's strange. This is last week this group will be together. That's always a little nostalgic. You think about everything you've been through from the off-season to training camp

to season ups and downs and frustrations and celebrations and excitement. Just the relationships that are formed. Everybody's going to go their own way here in about a week from today. So just try to enjoy time with the fellas and know that it's not going to be the same. This is kind of a once-in-a-lifetime experience for these guys and gals. So a lot of gratitude for it. Also, I think it's important that we learn the lessons

and really communicate entirely before we leave town so we can do things a little bit better next year. Yeah, there's a lot of hopes and dreams for next year. Everything we thought was going to happen this year with the Jets, we're delaying until next year is the mindset. And I know Greeny was down in his dumps. He was bummed out

for a while. But now he's excited for next year. I think how excited Greeny and Rich Eisen and all the Jet fans in the media are going to be when they see that Super Bowl 59 emblem. It's got that Jet green on it. Yeah! And Doe 36 is making the announcement?

It'll be good. It'll be a good time. Foxy, what if it's Jet green and a little baby blue? Here we go, Aaron. Now we're talking. It might be Eagles-Patriots. No, Lions-Jets. Let's see it. And then Aaron will tear our hearts out one more time

and win the Super Bowl. I already see it coming. We're writing the script right now. Good fan. I thought you had Stafford tearing your dreams out this year whenever he comes back to town. Yeah, I mean, we've all seen it. The Cowboys just ripped our hearts out.

It happens all the time. That's because you guys are doing a little song and danceboys just ripped our hearts out. It happens all the time. That's because you guys are doing a little song and dance with the reporting of the eligibility. We're smarter than everybody. We just line up and play football. If you were smart, you could have called timeout after they announced it, right? Or no. I'm telling you, the announcement

They didn't have timeouts. The announcement of like, this person's eligible, sometimes it happens so often, I don't know if everybody's even. I heard it on the Spanish, the ESPN Deportes. Bingo. Also, Ty, you didn't mention at all the big GB win Sunday night. It was huge. Hey, well, still got more to do.

Bears have been playing very well these last couple weeks. But, hey, everything you want. Got one more to get into the dance at home. Jordan Love has played incredible down the stretch here. Absolutely incredible. He's been really fun to watch, especially with guys being hurt. I'm worried about the defense still, Aaron. I think that's kind of just the way it goes.

But, hey, beat the Bears, and you're in the dance. That's all you can ask for. Definitely the young guys have played really well, and Jordan's been excellent. He made like four or five pretty incredible throws the other night. So one more game to go. It's the Super Bowl for the Bears just about every year because they haven't had them in the playoffs.

Oh, yeah, I thought. Well, thanks. This is their Super Bowl for the Bears just about every year because they haven't had them in the playoffs. This is their Super Bowl. It's been, we've won, what have we won? Matt's never lost to him, I think. It's like nine in a row. Zito? Yeah, I believe so. Zito, is Matt LaFleur ever lost to you guys? That was a rhetorical question. It's at least

nine in a row. He knew, by the way. He had the stat. 18, we got beat by him there when Joe Philpin was the coach. We beat him earlier, so it's definitely nine in a row. Do you think – Is it a rivalry anymore? Oh, geez. It's a fair question.

It's a fair question. If they can't beat us, is it a rivalry? You're like bug windshield type thing. We're going to run into each other, but really. That's what you're saying here in this entire conversation? I mean, every coach that gets hired in Chicago, his first goal is to beat Green Bay. It's been rough the last 30-plus years.

And now, you know, I think there was a lot of people like, all right, Barb's out of here. This young kid ain't getting worth a shit. And then, like, you know, we had our run. And then, okay, the old guy's out of here. This young kid's ain't getting worth a shit. And they're like, oh, shit. Jordan Love's pretty damn good.

Yeah, week one was ugly. There's another one. Oh, no. They got another one over there in that tiny little town. Because remember, if I go back to learning about this rivalry that you held in such high regard, I think you talked to Justin Fields about him holding it in high regard same thing with jordan love you're like it's the big city taking on little green bay have played against each other for a long time that's why whenever you know you're telling people that you're their

fucking landlord and everything because you appreciated the rivalry that's an old school one this week everything's on the line. It's always blood ball, baby. And you said it's Chicago Super Bowl. It is blood ball. You're right. It is blood ball. They've been playing their best ball. They have been.

Chicago coming into Super Bowl hot. They've got a couple people I really love on that team. I mean, besides Getze, who's a great friend. But Big Dog is there. And he got a touchdown friend. But Big Dog is there. And he got a touchdown recently. And Lucas Patrick, you know. I love EQ as well.

EQ's there. Lucas Patrick, you know, was playing center for him. Awesome guy. But I think it's going to be a good day for the G&G. Hell, yeah. Hopefully Jair Alexander just makes himself captain again. That was awesome. It's a big one.

I touched in. No, I want to play in the playoffs too. Boys have my back. Guys have my back. I'm from Charlotte. He said, yeah, dude, call it. You want to? He won a coin toss.

Yes, he did. People forget about that. Yes, he did. He's back. Big game. Doing love. The part of him saying to go on defense, that's one of the most overblown parts of the story. Now, the other stuff, whatever.

But, like, a referee is not going to let a team win the toss and go on defense. It's just. There's some power hungry. Didn't say it right. I've seen, I've been out there When somebody says defense and they will not let him They go, do you mean defer? And then I, multiple times I was like, no he said defense

He said defense And they won't You heard it We get the ball twice We get the ball twice Never worked? Never worked It's not possible It's not possible.

It's not possible for a referee to allow you to go on new things. Jair knew that. He said everybody was laughing. I'm like, what are we laughing about? Get it? He's the best. He has some class. He's incredible.

He's one of my favorites. I love Jair. He's a movie character, that guy. He is awesome. We need a microphone on him at all times. You know Truman Show? Let's do Jair. Boom.

I like to see that guy eating dinner. I like to see him waking up in the morning. I like to see the decisions being made on the road when he's driving. I like to hear everything that Jair is thinking. He's one of one. Yeah? What'd you say? He's one of one.

The team had his back. The guys. The guys had his back. Yeah. He said one of one. What did you say? The guys. The guys had his back. He said, I deserve to see shit. Coach knew. We appreciate you, Aaron. Hopefully you'll be able to crack open that bottle over your left shoulder there for some good news or some good times.

We appreciate you in 2023. Excited to see 2024. Release the Epstein list and I will be cracking open a bottle of something real nice tonight. How many does are there, you think? There's at least 36 from what we've heard about. There's probably about 2,000, but who knows? Well, Doe 36 is

an interesting name. Supposedly. It's not Jerome Bettis. No, it's not. They put that number 36 on it. He doesn't even know that's going on. Yeah, of course not. Not the bus, 36 on it. He doesn't even know that's going on. Yeah, of course not. Not the bus. Ref screwed him on that coin toss, though. All the people

in trouble are going to have to turn their comments off, which I hear has already happened. Turn your comments off on X. You snooping around a little bit? Who did that? You snooping around a little bit? You did, AJ. Look how happy he is.

Look at that face. Look how pumped he is. That's real joy. That's a childlike joy right there. We've gotten prematurely excited about this list coming out for a while. Who's we? You and Conor? There's a lot of people that don't want that list out.

A lot of people. Everyone's raining on my parade today saying that it's not going to happen. Just saying. I hope it does, Conor. I hope it does. But there's a lot of people that it's not going to happen Just saying I hope it does But there's a lot of people that don't want that to come out So if anything happens at the distraction You'll know that list is about to come out Okay real quick

Are you and Conman going to have a reading together tonight Are you going to go through it like a book club You know like Conman let's start at dough one And let's start snooping around here. Let's start seeing who this is. If that list comes out, come on, man, I want you to FaceTime me. We'll have a little celebratory drink together, you know?

Absolutely. I'll be there. Maybe I have a couple. I will have to read through it on my own, though, you know, because everyone needs to kind of experience it on their own when we've been waiting for this for so damn long. I'm going to let you know. Just like the Podesta emails.

Bingo. All right. Just like the Podesta emails. Bingo. Just like the other emails that just came out. Okay. Excited to hear about it. Can't wait for you guys to tell me what I need to know. I'm sure you guys will do it in a fair, biased way. Absolutely. I'm sure that'll be a good thing.

I'm excited about it. That's what I'm pumped about. I've been fair and biased about a name on an Epstein flight log. Yeah. Especially when it's heading to a little island in the Caribbean where, you know, Disney sent a bunch of, you know, kids to do snorkeling. Whoa! Jesus!

Especially when some people took 50 plus flights to set up a set place. All right. I'm excited for you guys to break it all down for us. I'm excited for it. You know, if there's any sports people in there, please let us know, too. That's kind of the other fun part is because not all will be named. Anyone in the sports world who you might want fired, you can be like,

I heard Doe138 was insert name of coach that you don't want, which I almost just did. Oh, the internet's going to start doing it. Yeah, that's exactly what... The internet can't have anything. You know what I mean? For example, Bell, belly zappy,

this did not happen. Do not. But if I did not want belly zappy to be the quarterback, you see where I'm going with that. All right. Hey, hopefully you have a good day soon. You can come and have a good meeting.

Hopefully you get everything out of it that you want. You know? Hopefully some real change happens. Let's get corruption, especially when you're talking about sex trafficking and pedophilia. Let's get all of it out the open. Let's take back our country from these fucking

terrible monsters, awful politicians, lifetime, incredible stock trading fucking villainous. You know what I mean? Get it off your chest, Aaron. I appreciate you. This country was founded

as a constitutional republic, not a democracy. In a constitutional republic, the emphasis is on civil liberties. In a democracy, it's on freedom and equality. More actually, not freedom, sorry, it's on equality. equality. More actually not freedom, sorry, it's on equality. But democracies always unravel into dictatorships or fascism.

It's what you're seeing right now when there's an emphasis on equality and not on civil liberties. So we've got to take back our country from these fucking monsters. And so many of them potentially could be involved in some real heinous stuff. Hopefully the corruption in this stuff is exposed at some point because we're at a real important part in our world right now. You're scratching Connor right where he is right now. Here, brother. Here, here. Is there like a six or seven hour Rogan episode I can listen to and maybe get to the bottom of this thing?

Not even the doctor knows. Not even the doctor. All right. I'm going to get out of here. Hey, Aaron, hopefully you have a great day. Hopefully we get America back today. Yeah. It's been a great day.

I get to talk to you guys. And hopefully we get a list. Probably not because it's probably just stringing us along a little bit. Hold on., Aaron. Just like Jets fans are doing for next year. That's right. We appreciate you. Happy New Year, man. Hey, law and naysayers out there.

Time to prove them all wrong. Fauci's a criminal. I mean, he also, you never know. Ladies and gentlemen, the COVID MVP, Aaron Rodgers. I do wonder if he has like a little box in the back. Yeah.

He's like a little reminder. AJ, you want to comment? Because there's other people on sports networks that say that, you know, you never comment when Aaron starts talking like that. What do you mean? What do they say? What do they say about me? Fuck, fuck, fuck, AJ. They know I i'm involved that's what they say that you're thinking

i heard i did want to i don't ask aaron why call why are these so-called powerful people or whatever why they're all pedo never mind what's the pedo situation about is that a power move like i don't get it why i don't know either that's a pretty disgusting little situation. Ask your neighbor. Wexie. That's right. My neighbor is my brother and sister-in-law. That's my neighbor. Wexie, he's Columbus royalty. I would like to see the compound someday.

I do appreciate the fact that Aaron Rodgers has the capability to throw a ball better than anybody. Be this hippie, obviously. But also the time to say, you know, I do want America fucking. I want it back. Alpha bed game. He's very passionate about that.

Yeah. It's hard not to be. When you know the amount of information that's out there regarding the thing, it is very hard not to be. But I want to let you know, I appreciate the fact that you guys have spent your time to focus on that. To let guys like me know that I should be paying attention to it. And I will be paying attention to it more.

I mean, when you go to the movie theaters to watch something like The Sound of Freedom, I'm not sure if you've heard about this film, but when you do, when you take... I have heard. You have? Yeah, a lot of people were adding you and me saying, can't wait for Connor to bring this movie up. That's how I... Well, it took me about

a year, because I saw it about a year ago, and I'm glad it finally came out. But when you are ingratiated into that information, it's hard not to be like, hey, what the fuck? Can we get some real repercussions here? So maybe we're on the brink of that. Probably not. Alright, I'm sure it's all real too. Excited to hear

what you guys think. And joining us now is a man who's about 28 yards away from breaking a receiving record for rookies in NFL history. Ladies and gentlemen, out of BYU, Los Angeles Rams superstar, Puka Nakua. Yeah, Puka! Puka, what's up, man? What's up, what's up? Hey, sorry we made you wait there for a little bit.

We had to go to the bathroom as a unison there, and you're the man, bro. Why do you think, and obviously it's because you're fast and strong, but why do you think you and Matthew Stafford were able to get on the same page so quickly, Puka? It feels like a perfect fit between you two. I don't know. I got invited in the summertime, and he takes such a strong presence

in making sure that every ball he throws has a nice, tight spiral to it. I'm like, man, I feel like that's one of the easiest things as a receiver. When you see that thing spinning nice and tight, it's like the ability to track it makes it so easy. He never lets the ball get out of his way that's not spinning tight. So you're saying the first time you played catch with the guy, you saw the ball and you're like, wow, I feel like I can really catch the shit out of this.

Oh, like I, like, I'm thinking like the one who has the receiver is not to like pop your head. And like, I'm thinking like, yo, I see, I, as soon as I seen the ball come out of his hands, I know exactly where it's going to be and he don't miss either. So it's like, oh, it's my coach. It's always like, you got to watch the ball all the way in. Puka, people were saying you were going to be on the all-white team

because you got tracked right there in the conversation. You have made some, like, ridiculous catches. You played against the Indianapolis Colts, and we saw you on a crossing route where Stafford put it right over the top of our linebacker. I think it was EJ Speed maybe. And then you just, beautiful catch. I mean, when did you get drafted to the Rams again? What was the pick number?

I was the fifth round somewhere in the last pick. Why was that, Puka? Why do you think that people didn't expect this from you? You know, fifth round, obviously, have a chance to make it. They're investing some draft capital on you. But I assume during that combine draft

process, you were wondering and confused about it all because as we watch you play we were wondering and confused by it all as well why do you think that happened puka uh i'm not sure i i was did my combine training with bryce young cj stroud guys like mike wilson so i was just hanging around these guys that i was everybody was talking about going and playing football at the best at the we're going to be the first picks. And I was like, oh, I'm with these guys, so I should feel the same. And that confidence. I just walked around.

I was like, man, I'm hanging out with these guys. That means we're doing the same shiz. Let me get to where it works. I thought we were going to all be in the same spot. But the Rams believed in me enough, and the opportunity has gone crazy. Go ahead, AJ. What's it like working with Cooper Cupp and how big of a help has he been, especially early on

when you step in and you see what he does day in and day out? He's been the biggest help to me from the day I stepped in here. The ability to ask questions and for him to really give all the knowledge that he has in this offense and the ability to

win routes and the ability to understand coverage he he gave it he gave everything to me when i was asking questions he was taking the time to give it and make sure i understood it in depth and he made the game so much easier and i got there and i'll be like coop like what we just talked about happening in the game he's like the back is going to be here the core is going to play this this leverage and you're going to be able to one two him at the top and you'll break in and matth he's like, the backers are going to be here, the corners are going to play this leverage, and you're going to be able to one-two him at the top, and you'll break in, and Matthew's going to hit you. And we come out there, one-two at the top,

and Matthew hit me, I'd be like, Coop, you're a genius, brother. That's amazing to hear, because that's what, like when Cooper wasn't playing, we all assumed, because of what we saw Nine and Dime be able to do together, it was like, oh, there must be some fallout. Instead, and obviously Cooper Cup, very established. He's not only triple crown champion one year,

but he won all four because he had the yak as well, I believe. So it was like he is an absolute guy. But whenever they lost Cooper Cup, it almost brought in more reps for you. Do you feel that way? Like, all right, you kind of got dropped into the deep end, and now that whenever you're both back now, we don't know. We hope he's okay, obviously. But when you're both back, you become an got dropped into the deep end, and now that whenever you're both back now, we don't know, we hope he's okay, obviously. But when you're both back, you've become an offense that's seemingly unstoppable.

Do you feel that way? And how much is Sean McVay a part of that messaging and kind of how does he lay it out for your offense? He makes it super easy. He knows that we got some guys who can make plays all over this field, especially with number 23 in the backfield, and guys who have been in the offense, like mentioned coop and uh big higgs so they make it they make it easy they understand how to move and how to win in this offense and coach coach

dows it up and makes it super easy for us so with number nine in the backfield when he don't miss and coach mcveigh dialing up all the plays that we got it's like it does feel like we're unstoppable with especially with number 10 like he um practice, I'll be lining up. I mean, the play calls are so lengthy. I'll be forgetting what the can is. He's like, hey, you got this. You know this, right? You're going to 28 right here.

And he's like, oh, you got the corner on this route when you motion to the backside of the formation. I'm like, all right, thanks, Cube, because I didn't know. I was like, I forgot. Happening on the field? Is that happening on the field? On the field. Right before the snap, because him and Matthew were talking about it. Like that happening on the field? On the field. Right before the snap. Because him and Matthew were talking about,

I'm going to change the route right here right before the snap. During games. Wow. Oh, damn. All right. Can somebody. Let's not snap this one quick. What do I.

All right. And then bang. Goes for. Bang. Goes for. Have you looked at the numbers in comparison to NFL history? I assume. It looks like you're having a terrible time. But whenever it's historic, goes for. Have you looked at the numbers in comparison to NFL history? I assume it looks like you're having a terrible time. But whenever it's historic, Puka, you're doing historic things right now.

Darius has a question about that. Yeah, Puka, everybody kind of has their expectations coming in as a rookie into the NFL. What were your expectations kind of coming in, and how was the reality of touching that NFL field? Obviously, you had instant success. Was there ever a rookie of the year? I mean, welcome to the league moment for you uh so what was those expectations versus the reality for your la yeah i mean the expectations i had two brothers who had uh my brother had been in the training camp with the colts uh during uh 2021 and then my brother had played six years

in the league i was undrafted played safety so the the idea to get drafted and my to years in the league. I was undrafted, played safety. So the idea to get drafted and to go in the fifth round was to be a special teams guy and to take advantage of whatever opportunity was to be given to me. And then the kind of welcome to the NFL moment was like during OTAs. I first got here with no pads on and stuff, but I get a rep with the ones. And Matthew, I have a route where I didn't know I was the number one. I'm running an under route, and I'm like, I'm going against DK, one of our corners. He's wearing number one. I don't really know who's who.

I'm like, all right, this is my opportunity to show him what I got. I win the release clean. Matthew dots me up in stride, and I just remember turning upfield and being able to make a move on the safety. I'm like, oh, that was such a smooth transition. Pook like, Hey, I remember watching the tape later and like, why? I like Matthew did like a little, a little gunslinger thing and a coach and everybody, like all the coaches,

like they like no, no like reactions, but they all just like look at each other on the tape. And I just remember showing it to my siblings. I'm like, yo, this was the one, this was the one.

That's awesome. You believe in yourself. And also the coaches be, Hey, we got a fifth round. Yeah. We got a fifth round Mormon. Hey, we got a guy. It has been, you've been, I didn't know you were like this, by the way. Did we know?

Awesome. So sick. Boogie, you're fucking awesome, dude. You know what I mean? You are this, the, I don don't know the energy that you are bringing through this call now we're running on like two hours of sleep fresh out of the road your mana is fantastic i assume i assume that that's what the locker room is like over there in la what is the team like because what you guys have been able to do here late in this season come together play great ball all eyes are on the playoffs obviously don't want to get you in trouble you're a rookie wide

receiver we don't need to talk about that but what is that locker room like and how has it been for you kind of being dropped into a new culture um it's been it's been crazy one my locker mate is big rob havenstein he's been in the he's been on the rams for a long time since they've been in st louis and stuff so it's been somebody super cool to like he's he's the og so i walk around like i'm like i try to be like little bro to him because i'm like if i'm next to big rob if you're saying something crazy big rob's gonna let you know so the vets in our the vets in our locker room they're super cool ad's always laughing the the d line is hilarious because ad he he controls that that side of the

ball and just the energy that they have but then matthew and cooper just like the two mastermind geniuses that you could just like, they're always, they're just like, you know, if they're not talking ball, they're talking something like, why,

or how do we save more water? Like, how do we get there? They're just like, they're like, they're those that they're the guys that you want to be around. Cause that conversation's heightening your skills. You're here.

Yeah. That's what I am. Is there like, is that in the locker room? Is that at the cafeteria uh where is most hang happening for the rams we playing cards um a little bit in the the cafeteria and in the locker room for sure i used to get i used to get coop out there playing some pig back in the day earlier in the season but we we've widened down on that less movement as we've got

what got later in the season you're an old Booker. That's kind of how it goes. Go ahead, AJ. What about your head coach, Sean McVay? Is he, like, from what you expected, I guess, coming in, what is he like? What's reality like and expectations? I know you said you guys have some super long play calls. We know he's an offensive genius also. Was the playbook, is that something that is still ongoing,

or do you feel pretty confident in everything you guys do? Oh, there's sometimes, there's some weeks i feel super confident and the next week we'll come in and it'll be like oh my gosh we're reading like a harry potter book and i'm just like all right matthew you're the guy like right before the huddle that's the ones where i'm like coop where are we going and he's like yeah you got the shallow right here puka like when we're like the ball is? And he's like, yeah, you got the shallow right here, Puka. Like the ball is being snapped. He's like, shallow, shallow, outside release. Just run it as fast as you can. They were telling that story about Kevin O'Connell and the Pasternaut,

you know, as he's breaking the huddle, telling what the play is. The thought of you breaking this rookie record while literally as the ball is being snapped, Coop's like, outside release, shallow. And then he's running routes off you. And then Stafford knows exactly where you are. Something special, Bruno, man. Something special. Obviously, that win against the Ravens, or I'm sorry, the loss against the Ravens,

but taking them to overtime, I think a lot of us are looking back on that going, wait a minute, hold the phone. This Rams team is for real. Even though it's supposed to be a transition year, and L.A. is the right city to Even though it's supposed to be a transition year, and L.A. is the right city to be doing it. Yeah, Puka, how is L.A.? Obviously, BYU, a little different vibes in Utah, although they're still quaking and both soaking, some would say.

But also, is it tough personally for you because you are a fifth-round rookie and so you're living off like $30,000 in California right now? It is crazy expensive because if I think about how much my rent costs right now, what I would be living like in Utah, man, I would be living like a king. L.A. It is crazy. We're in like – I don't even know what's L.A. Everybody says the word. Everybody's like, oh, yeah, I'm in L.A. too.

And then they send like the location location and they're two hours away. And I'm like, there's no chance you're in LA. Sorry, you're not in LA where I'm in LA. I'm in LA. You're in a different state, man. Traffic, you never know. Two hours, two miles. We were in Pasadena this past weekend for the Rose Bowl. I was staying there.

They were in Glendale and that was anywhere between a 15 minute drive to a 55 minute drive because the way it is yeah it's crazy isn't it you gotta live close to the facility i assume oh i actually i like my 20 i get like a 20 25 minute drive to myself get some free time play some music listen to a podcast get the joe rogan experience go and hit you guys uh get some non-Drake. I be listening to Drake pretty much most of the day. Okay, so you're listening to Drake and Rogan.

All right, so we just had a conversation with a guy who was listening to a Rogan podcast as well in the last hour. Some big shit coming out today, potentially, Puka. I think that Rogan experience. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know. I mean, this is modern world, by the way. That's right.

This is the exact modern world in the way it is all kind of cooking. Ty, as a question for you, Puka. Yeah, Puka, obviously being a rookie, you know, you don't know what you don't know. But in you guys' division, everyone always talks about, hey, the Niners are, you know, until they got, you know, steamrolled by the Ravens. Hey, that's the clear-cut best team in football. But as you guys have kind of gone down the stretch here and you've played as well as you've played, you kind of get the sense in the locker room and around the guys like, hey,

we are definitely a team that no one wants to play in the playoffs because we're kind of just rolling on all cylinders right now. Yeah, honestly, I'm not going to lie to you. That sounded like a great compliment. I didn't know where the question was. We're playing some really good football. great compliment. I didn't know where the question was. You said we're rolling, I guess. Like, yeah, it's like we're playing some really good football, but I guess even at the beginning of the season, I didn't. I mean, we came off our week one, we beat Seattle, and then

week two, going to play against the Niners. There is that, the Rams and the Niners is a big game, but I feel like even at the beginning of the season, we could hang with the best of them. We just weren't able to execute, but it's fun. I think our confidence is high, and it's just coming down to what happens on Sundays. Boogie, you're the right guy to ask this question, too,

because it's already been mentioned. Go ahead. Yeah, as Connor just mentioned it, we were at the University of Utah for game day, and all they were saying is that all BYU does is soak and quaking. And I just wanted to give you a chance. Is that true, or is it all Utah? Is it just BYU?

I don't even know what that means. Yeah, what's the percentage of BYU Cougs that are quaking and soaking? Is this 100% soak rate out there, or what? No, not 100%. Quaking must be a Utah thing. I've never heard of that. I know soaking can do that down there at BYU, but quaking has got to be.

It's a bunk bed situation. So quaking is, you know, when you get a teammate on the bottom there, Nate Hartung, you know, and then it's a full bow on the bed. This is what we've learned, Puka. Listen, what are you playing dump for? Hey, no, no, that's for sure. I have never heard of that over down there at BYU. They don't do that.

Oh, that's what Ryan Smith was saying, too. This must be the email at BYU. Hey, listen. Any of the Quakin' nonsense, the evolution of soaking, you send that right to Utah. That is not what we're doing. Is that right, Pook? BYU is old school. The soaking is there.

That's a staple. We're old school Big Ten football. That's a staple. We're old school Big Ten football. That's right. We're patting the rock. Ah, Puka. You're awesome. You're awesome, dude.

The NFL is lucky to have you. I want to let you know that. We have no idea how you became a fifth rounder, but watching you grow this year and now getting a chance to... Hey, you're a fucking G. Hey, Puka, we are very thankful you took time out of your day to join us. Good luck the rest of the way, and hopefully we'll get a chance to chat with you again. No, I're fucking G. Hey, Puka, we are very thankful you took time out of your day to join us. Good luck the rest of the way, and hopefully we'll get a chance to chat with you again.

No, I appreciate you guys. I always love seeing you guys' content. You guys are hilarious, put a good smile on my face. So you guys have a good one. Appreciate you having me on. Puka, I feel like you smile all the time. Our content's terrible, and once you stop watching, we understand completely, but we won't stop watching you, pal.

Good luck with the record, ladies and gentlemen, Puka Nakua. Yeah, Puka! Infectious. Is that a new favorite player in the NFL? I don't like that guy. What the fuck was that? What a great representation for the league. The league should be pushing him everywhere. Hey, let's get this guy out there. Let people know

who he is. Hoodie, smile, laugh. I don't know if that was a question. Sounds like a great compliment. Thanks. That was awesome. Thanks for everything. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who works at ESPN. They're coming on after Puka. To be honest, I never told him we weren't going to call him like 20 minutes ago because Puka was a late add.

Shout to Puka's people getting that set up. You know, the Rams PR people would never let Puka on. The worst. So let's assume that Puka's never going to be on the show again because the Rams PR is on a list of PR people that we just know we're never going to get along with. We'll always have that time. Right there.

Let's cherish that. Never going to happen again. Nope. It's awesome. It was awesome. Good to see Stafford. He was a little overblown earlier before the season. He's definitely connecting with that young locker room.

Love to see it. Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah. I can see why, you know. Name tags. Yeah, I forgot about it. He knew Puka's name. Mm-hmm.

As soon as you see him, you're Puka Nikula. Yeah. Coolest name of all time. You're my guy. How about in training camp or OTAs when he hits them? He dots me up real quick. Then I shake a guy. I'm like, okay, Puka.

He's saying, oops. He knew this. Showed his siblings, too. Like, showed his siblings. Hey, check this out. And his two siblings played in the NFL, right? His brothers played in the NFL. So they were probably potentially the ones that were like, look at McVay.

Look at the reaction around this entire thing. Hey, look at the other defensive guys that are like, what the fuck? That's a fifth rounder. That kind of happens to everybody. You know what I mean? That is kind of whenever you see a rookie that isn't supposed to be what he is, do what he does. It's like an automatic

babyface move, too. Performing way above what expectations were. We are very lucky that he joined us there. We'll never talk to him again. It has to be stated. It was fun, though. It was fun. Those PR people are so smart. They don't want him talking about soaking or what?

Why would they keep away? He'll be back on 2024 for the vibes. He'll be back on. Depends who's working. 2024, the vibes. Our particular vibes are not the PR for the Rams guys' vibes. No, they aren't. Yeah.

Unfortunately. Been around a long time. Gatekeeper. They do nothing. We know Been around a long time. Gatekeeper. They do nothing. We know that because we've played in the league. But I know the way they talk to the media is as if they have actual say. Yeah. It's awesome.

They have Puka Nakua on the practice squad, though, who we might be able to get. Well, he won't be there, so. Good player. Who? Miss you, Puka. Some other guy who is like Pook. Pook alike.

What's he talking about? Just some guy that they would have us talk to. Oh, you're talking about the Rams? Yeah, yeah, there you go. Some irrelevant person. Yeah, we'd have to earn our keep. Never heard of. We have a couple wars across the NFL with some PR people.

Two of them got mentioned today Yeah Maybe be in the firefighter little costume calendar thing Yeah Do something good for the program Yeah Or fuck off That's how Connor feels

Either or Either or That's how Connor feels Either or I've been told we might be able to have Nakua on again That'd be awesome Yeah but he's about to get a full talking to Yeah I was gonna say

He went on what show He's gonna be smiling with a hoodie on he's about to get a full talking to. I was going to say, he went on what show? He's going to be smiling with a hoodie on. He's going to be like, great to see you guys. What'd you do yesterday? Got a massage, listened to Joe Rogan experience. Looked at a list. Don't love that so far. What do you want from me?

Joe over for you, pal. You mentioned what podcast? Puka Nakova. Oh, no. Puka Nakova. Do we have Orlovsky on? I hope not. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now.

He heard you. I didn't say it. You did. No, I did. You've been really saying a lot. When I say it. We all heard it. Did you hear it?

I heard it, and I loved it. I heard it. I loved it. College teammate. No one saw me say it. Professional teammate. Now you're a teammate as well. This man is on television all day every day

this morning for instance he had jeffrey dahmer glasses on and was sniffing heels of the host on camera ladies and gentlemen nfl aficionado for espn dan roski i heard it connor sorry dude people with foot fetishes creep me out. I don't have a foot fetish. You had those Dahmer glasses on. Did you see it? Have you seen it yet? Have you seen?

It's going. It's going on Twitter. Here's what I don't understand is why everyone is so taking it back. It's the first time she's worn the shoes. Of course, they're going to smell totally normal. Dan, you have Dahmer glasses on. That's the big part of this is your appearance on how you look here. Obviously, we won't talk about the suit and everything else,

but then you just take a lady's shoe and sniff it. She gave me the shoe because she was like, Listen, these are the shoes that Stephen A. bought me because the UConn national title bet. This is the first time I'm wearing it. They just showed up in my office this morning. I was like, okay. Yeah, but you as Dahmer decided to smell it. Like instead of saying, hey, Stephen A. bought Molly these shoes.

I did do that. Yeah, but then he said, but wait, there's more. And he said, oh. That is what everybody, I think. You know what I mean? And he said, oh, everybody. I think, you know what I mean? I don't think it's necessarily the showcasing of the shoe with the bats or the Dahmer glasses. But once you add in the sniff with it all, that's when it really starts. You know what I mean?

She's making an assumption. This is observing and reporting. This is journalism. This is journalism. How did it smell like leather? It smelled like leather. Brand new shoes. Yeah. This is journalism. This is journalism. How did it smell? Like leather? Smell like leather? Brand new shoes?

Yeah, it smelled like a brand new shoe. Yeah. How often are you smelling shoes? I feel like I smell my kids' shoes probably once or twice a year. But other than that. Just in case there's dog doo-doo on her? Yeah, or just sometimes you're like, yo, guys, this is gross. Take a shower. And you're like yo guys this is gross take a shower and you're like molly not gross

don't take a shower what is wrong with you there's nothing wrong I don't know if you're in this conversation we're in right now. Whose shoe did you smell today? I don't think I've... I don't think I've smelled anybody's shoes

in my whole... Yeah. Oh, okay. My whole life. I do get it forced upon me by some people in this office. Who? There is somebody who has

made a record-breaking, world-record smell coming out of their feet. What? In this office. Some pilot? No. No. Who's got bad feet? Oh, boy.

And why aren't you using baking soda or something? Well, his mom actually told me at his wedding all the things that they have attempted over the years to combat smell. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, oh. I got you. Dahmer, this is another thing. What were you thinking? Dahmer.

The hell? What's going on? Danny Dahmer. What were you thinking? Dahmer. The hell? What's going on? Danny Dahmer? What were you thinking the other day when Reese was speaking? I thought Reese was about to send himself right off of a job. That's what I thought. Whoa. I was like, whoa.

Whoa. Reese is about to do this. Reese is about to really go. I've never been more uncomfortable. I've never been more uncomfortable. I've never been more. I'm sitting there. And then he says, nice. Oh, shit.

All right, Reese. And you never want to interrupt somebody. No. Herbie reminded you. But that is, yeah, Herbie said, in the middle of his, I agree. But you should have seen what my heart was doing. Oh, yeah. I was at the Rose Bowl thinking of my guy.

I love Reese. I thought it was over for Reese. I thought we were looking for a new host. I thought it was done. And he saved it. I don't know if he knew by the end of that segment. No, I don't think so. No idea.

No, he had no clue. That's what made it even better. Still doesn't. Anyways, let's move on from the Dahmer smelling and the naysayers and the merch. Merch does look sick. Saw it on Mark Ingram. And shout out to Jalen Milrow. Hopefully he sold a billion of those shirts. Happy to be

a part of it. Dan, let's talk about some teams here, shall we? I know at the beginning of the year you said Lamar Jackson's not really quarterback-y, right? Isn't that what Dan Orlovsky said? No, Dan would never say that. No. Oh, that wasn't you, Dan? No. Okay, well, somebody

who was a what in recent memory said he's not quarterback-y enough. Something about him. There was somebody saying some stuff. This has been what Lamar has been battling, pretty much, since before draft

when they were telling him he should play another position. Now they are dominating these teams. He is the clear-cut leader of the team, and he had three incompletions, five touchdowns. It's his MVP, right? And why has this year been so different for Lamar Jackson, you think, Dan? Yeah, I do believe Lamar has sealed up the MVP. The difference, I think, number one, they finally have a pass game that is developed down the field, pass game.

I think it's important to say this, you know, Greg Roman, who is obviously his previous offensive coordinator, did a remarkable job with, like, Lamar and and putting him in an offense that was going to allow his talent and his skill set to to get him on the field and thrive early on but at some point it capped like at some point the lack of a real pass game capped kind of what he and the offense was going to be in that so that's why Todd Monken came in and really what you've seen is this development throughout the year of a dynamic down the field pass game I think probably the the I don't want to say surprising thing but the the most development part of it is how much play action pass that they've decided to use that's one of the things that I certainly begged for Greg

Roman to do more of is like yo you don't don't do enough play action. And they've become such a high volume, high efficient play action pass offense. I think it allows Lamar to see down the field with the development passing game, their offensive line protects. I think one of the things that Lamar is like, I guess, struggled with this year, not much is sometimes pressure and it protects against that. um mvp and i like we got to stop looking at the mvp as just a numbers thing like there is numbers that play their part in it um but if you have like if you watch the game and you see how much lamar makes something out of nothing on a consistent basis, that has to create value that is greater than numbers. So I think we finally get to see him in a pass-centric offense, and you're seeing his impact on the game be even better

than it was his MVP year. Best team in football, most valuable player on the best team in football. I'm okay with that being the argument on whoever ends up winning the MVP as well, but that is certainly one of the arguments you can make for lamar this year and congrats him probably resting probably resting against the steel here's the thing so i i don't know so i'm calling that game the steelers ravens game saturday i don't want i don't know if they'll rest them because in 2000 but here's the thing like in 2019 when they were the one seed they rested and then

remember they played tennessee and tennessee went up on them 14 nothing like that and they just they couldn't get themselves back in the game because if you think about it if they rest them he goes three weeks essentially without playing that's a long period of time so i don't know if they rest him that much um also back to the mvp real quick if he wins he would be the two-time winner at the age of 26 no i don't think anyone's ever done that yeah there's college football players that are older than him still and he'd have two mvps and some other things potentially hanging on the mantle with how that football team looks this year let's stay in that game because there's a lot on the line. Steelers need a win in Buffalo or Jacksonville

loss to make it into the playoffs. And the line is kind of saying that Baltimore is going to be resting players, but I appreciate your point and also the fact that you're calling the game and chatting with some people over there. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Dan. Maserati Mason Rudolph has now scored 30 points in back-to-back, his

only two starts of the season. How much is that, Mason? How much is the offense doing the same exact thing? And if they get into the playoffs, you think Mason can make some noise? And is he the quarterback going forward? I don't think he's the quarterback

going forward as far as a franchise guy. I do think you've got to give him credit to the fact that his two starts, they've looked the best on offense now. They've played Cincinnatiati who's not a great defensive team going on the road and doing in the nfl and against anybody is is meaningful so i understand seattle's not dominant on defense uh so two things that have stood out to me for their offense we they've run the ball relatively consistently well throughout the majority of the season not dominant but well they're finally moving pickings around in the formation more um you know so often george would

be like standing out to the sideline by himself make hey just run a go route uh so they're moving pickings around a little bit more um especially after the the uh the poor performance blocking on the perimeter that he had and then way more play action pass now it's a little bit like cleveland you know cleveland with flacco has done a ton of gun play action um in pittsburgh has started to do more of the gun play action for mason that's helped their offense as well both in the the you know receivers getting down the field and then the offensive line protection wise so i you know if they get in the playoffs, I'm not willing to say that they're going to go make some noise. Obviously, with the defense, they have a shot.

But the fact that they're in this place and Mason's their best quarterback right now on the roster, it at least gives them a chance and it gives them credit that Mason's kind of kept his head into it. The Kenny Pickett drama is broiling at the moment, you know, seemingly on the outside, maybe something on the inside. Who knows? Really never get a chance to hear what's real and what isn't if you're not in the building every single day. But Kenny Pickett saying he's learned nothing while being injured and sitting last week with a little bit of sauce. And then there was some narrative being built that he didn't want to dress if he was going to be the backup quarterback.

He came out and said that isn't true at all but what a scene over there and mike thompson yet again above 500 for the 18th straight year it is yeah wild times in pittsburgh dad wild time it's crazy it's crazy that they're in the conversation i mean because there's been so much noise around the football team this year this has gone from, this defense is going to give them a chance to win the game every single week, to Kenny Pickett's not playing good, to firing the offensive coordinator, to are they going to move on from Mike Tomlin to, hey, they're going to another backup quarterback, oh my gosh, if they win and they get help from one of two teams during the playoffs. It's been unbelievable, like rollercoaster ride in Pittsburgh. Honestly, just knowing the NFL, I'd be surprised if Pittsburgh doesn't get in.

I would think that Baltimore would probably, my guess, rest some people. Pittsburgh gets the chance to go win the game. Buffalo or Jacksonville, just because it's the NFL, I wouldn't be surprised if one of those teams loses. Buffalo's got a big one, doesn't it? They've got a big one. But people are saying it's Chauvar Ohtani down there in Miami.

Aren't they? You know what they're saying? No, we'll be fine. We'll bounce back. Bills could be number two overall seed in the AFC. Whoa. Or out. The NFL's awesome right now. You talk about what the Steelers have gone through. Think about what the Bills have gone through this year.

I'd be surprised if Buffalo doesn't win that game, though. Why is that, Dan? One, the injuries in Miami. You know, like that defense is so dependent on Jalen and Chubb to create pressure. Xavier and Howard not playing, or more than likely not playing. That's a big deal. The fact that they won't move Jalen inside, you know, I could see, you know, Buffalo just working the slot receiver all game.

And Miami's in. You know, why they sit there and say, like, hey, we could get home field advantage. They're in. Buffalo is win or go home, essentially. And I think, like, that urgency and the way that they could pressure uh lends itself to me thinking buffalo wins well let's hope they stay out of tootsies down there in miami obviously the miami flu has gotten a lot of people in the past with this much on the line

you would think they'd be locked into the hotel immediately upon landing but it sounds like you're saying the dolphins aren't uncle dan marine over but for this particular weekend, there is a chance that they're Joe Bolver. You never know with McDermott, Coach, and what could happen. All right. Could be McDermott over. Oh, no. Could be Buffalo over Orlovsky.

Dan Orlover. Dude, like, there's two injuries on the edge rushers. It's massive. That defense is predicated on covering guys. I think you're forgetting about Van Ginkle, Dan. Yeah. Yeah. Andrew Van Ginkle.

AJ has a question for you. Good player. Great player. Not Bradley Chubb good. Agreed. We can all agree on that. And I think even Andrew Van Golver would tell you that. He's cooking.

Dan Overlovsky is just saying so many things right now that are just scratching me right where I itch. Isn't that right? Gumping over. Absolutely. He's nailing it. I mean, he went to UCOVER. He did, and that place has been Joe Bover for a long time.

Relax. Probably said Darius Bover. Darius Bover? We're killing this. We're beating it like a dead horse. No, because no one knows what the fuck you're talking about. So basically, nobody has seen the Joe Bover 1990 Fleer card. No one understands what it means to us.

Get all of Joe Bover's cards up. Who looks more lost, me or AJ? Or Reese the other day. I would say you. AJ knows, though. AJ was on a plane for four hours. Heard plenty of Joe Bover. Everything was potentially over about ten different times at all times.

Because we don't like looking for the end, but every once in a while you just got to point it out. The Miami Dolph Overs. Yeah. Still alive. You know what I mean? Still alive. Very much. Hell yeah.

We got Mike McDaniels still calling to play. Tua's going to play. Tyree Hill's going to play. You're right. What am I saying? I'm watching Hard Knocks tonight, too. It's not going to be Mike McDover. It might be. At home. Come on, man. I It's not going to be Mike McDover. It might be.

I just wanted to hear you say Mike McDover again. Anyways, AJ has a question for you. This conversation is close to being Joe Bover. Raheem over. What about Vic Fange over? After that Ravens game at Mike P. AJ, let's have a one-on-one conversation here. You're my mic.

You're my mic. I'm going to keep doing it if we keep going. When you watch this Eagles team play, Dan, what do you see? What's going on? Obviously, they've given up too many points. We all know that. But do you have faith in them that they can make a run? Definitely Philadelphia.

Yeah, Syria. No, I think Philadelphia is more likely to lose their opening round game than to go on a run. I'll start defensively. I think structurally there isn't any fix right now. They're worse under Matt Patricia, like just structure-wise, than they were under Sean Desai. I think, number one, they can't cover outside of Slay right now. I felt like I was watching Green Bay's defense on third down.

They were just giving up easy completions and not challenging receivers. Number two, the interior, their defensive line is not playing good. Arizona absolutely controlled the line of scrimmage. And it's crazy to see how their defensive tackles just have kind of fallen off in the past couple weeks. Three, I have no idea why they're dropping Hassan Redick into coverage like he's fudging Fred Warner. Like, makes absolutely no sense. Number four, I don't think they tackle well on defense. Offensively, I felt they're predictable all year.

Their offensive line hasn't been dominant. Jalen doesn't trust the pocket. And their pass game is, you know, concept-wise, a very predictable unit. So, like, if they had to go – if I had to pick today and they got to go on the road to Tampa Bay, RP over. If they had to go on the road to Tampa Bay today, I think I would pick Tampa Bay. Well, and also, they don't have big Dom DeCastro over. Yeah.

Sideline. The Tushpover. Oh, yeah. Like you used to. Yeah, the Bradley Shover. Justin. Dan, we got to get out of here, dude. We are so sorry.

Oh, man. You're probably tired. Yeah, it's Lane Jover for us. Yeah. We're not sniffing shoes, but we are tired. Dallas Goater. What did you think of that game? Actually,

Darius has a question for you. I would like to hear your take on this. This is real football talk. Yeah. I mean, we were obviously in the Rose ball, unbelievable game. We missed some of the other game with Michael Penix Jr.

put on an absolute show. Steelers future quarterback. Yeah. I got to ask you about him. Has he moved up your board? Obviously a big national championship game coming up against Michigan, but has he moved up your board at all? I would say, yeah, D, but, you know,

I don't know if I've ever seen a college kid throw the ball better in a game than what I saw last night from Pennix, as far as throwing the ball. Like, so many just absolute perfect throws, whether the placement of the ball, the air or the trajectory of the ball. Some of his touchdown throws are absolute piss missiles. This is the throw early on in the game. I think that's the poke on the deep crosser. Just, I mean, throws that demand. And you know, it's funny because you, you watch a quarterback throw for 420 yards and you say, man, the coverage must've been brutal. It wasn't, it's just perfect throw after perfect throw and um

move up in my board you know i'd say i gotta study these guys a little bit more so many slot fades that's just a great adjustment there's a better slot fade to a dunze and later in the game that's sick but um i think this like one two are locked quarterback wise jayden daniels is probably going to get in that conversation for the third quarterback and maybe even a top 10 pick. JJ McCarthy. I'm a massive fan. I used, I thought like mid season, he would probably be the third quarterback taken. I don't think I feel that way right now.

Pennix is going to be a first round pick. There is no way that a human being throws the ball like that, which is the most important quality of a quarterback and not going to be a first round pick in the nfl draft so yeah he's he's definitely jumped up for me he's a lefty obviously so it's an easy comparison to tua but it is like he's so accurate but he also has a cannon like he has yeah he's he's he's definitely got more of more power and juice mine is a great post um look at that throw like to first of all dunes is sick just absolutely sick um i'm hoping you guys show them the missile over the middle of the field 21 25 it'll be coming here in a second yeah yeah um phenomenal that's all we really got to see because the the wife over

on the uh man on the plane was not great so we're trying to watch the game but it was like delta yeah american airlines yeah yeah it was like... Delta? Yeah. American Airlines? Yeah, it was Dover for us. Frontier. Southwest? Spirit. A couple different airlines. This is it. This is it. That's just ridiculous, dude. That's how he's different than Tua.

Yeah, he's got a... I mean, that ball leaves his hand at what, like the 25? It looks like Ichiro from right field. Yes. Nice. Sick reference. Hey, that was Ichiro over there. Yeah, Ichiro over there.

Truly. That was pretty good, bro. Yours played pretty good last night, too. That was a good ball game. Yeah, great bat. Hey, college football yesterday. Awesome. Yeah, nailed it.

Yeah. Phenomenal. Fan or day? You're calling games? What are you calling? You're calling the Raven-Steelers game? Yep, Saturday. You're not calling college this year.

That's right. No, no college. There's only one game left. I think Herbstreet's probably going to call that one. And us. Are you guys doing that as well? Another on the field pass mega cast? Yeah, Dan Orlow. That's awesome. We get a chance to

walk on the field. It's dumb. Makes no sense. We're on the sideline of that Rose Bowl just like, why are we here? How are we getting here? And then Tim Tebow lines up next to us. He wants to take a snap. Tim Tebow wanted to take a snap. And Dan, he might actually snap you in half.

No, he's a big human being. Huge. Do you get to see him much? You guys talk ball much? Similar quarterback style. No, I don't see Tim in person ever. I see him on TV some, but I don't see him ever, no. You never see him?

He's a giant human. You send him DMs and say, like, thank you for your service to society or anything like that? No, but he's a great human being. Subscribe to his text. Then you can talk to him more. Yeah, I would like to do that, actually. I do.

He actually texted and said, great sesh last night, dude. It was a great sesh. He had a great sesh last night. I didn't want to leave. You think we just FaceTime him right now the answers? Yeah, it's never Tim to Bulver. It's not to Bulver! Tim T. Bulver?

Close. I mean, we just did it for you. Dan, you smell the shoe this morning. It's tough for me coming into this conversation. Did she ask you to smell it? I don't care. I don't fucking care. I love smelling shoes. It's fine leather.

Stephen A. bought it. I just want to smell it. It's not about the shoe. It's a weird looking shoe. It was. Which, once again, he could have Vanna White-ed that thing. That could have been your play. But instead, you're like.

Nah. It's Tim Bulger. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Hold on. All right, we're working out. Then we're live. Tim, we're live. We're live right now.

We are live on the air right now. Of course you are. I love it. Okay, good, good, good. Tim, did you get to see the sugar bowl what are your thoughts on michael pennix what do you think about the boys and hey let's go michigan what a game yesterday oh it was an incredible game i loved uh hanging with you and the team that's hilarious also sugar bowl come on two amazing semi-finals michael pennix

jr is ridiculous. His just resilience. He's become one of my favorite players because I just, that's just, I mean, to overcome that many injuries, to bounce back, to keep fighting, to lead UW, to win the championship. I love it. He's got to be one of my favorite players.

Yeah, us too, by the way. And I don't know if you've seen Pukunikui yet. He is, he is phenomenal. We just had him on, by the way. I don't know if you've seen Pukunikui yet. He is phenomenal. We just had him on the show last hour. I know he's on College Ball, but might be one of your new favorite humans. Speaking of favorite humans, do you know Dan Orlovsky at all? Do you think you two played a similar style of football at the same position or no? First of all, I do know Dan a good amount.

Wonderful guy. Awesome heart. Really good at his job. I feel like we played this style very differently. I think it's a good read. That's what you do. Appreciate you, man. Thank you for last night. Of course, man.

So fun. Tell the whole crew I said hey. Hey, Tim! Love you, Tim! Hey, Tim! Talk to you later. Danny complimented you. He said you do good work. Wonderful heart. I wonder if he saw you sniffing that shoe this morning or not.

Hopefully not. Tim's a great human being. I'm thankful for his words. Did you ever do the Tebow before a game? Yeah. That's good. Probably before Tim because I'm older than Tim. He's a little bit better of a player than me

He's just got off the phone Why didn't you say this when he was here? You were the league longer Might be Tim to Bover Well because you didn't ask me until he was off of the phone Hey why did you put on your Christmas card That you were on with your beautiful family Patrick and not Pat

Yeah I knew that Yeah why? Why'd you do that Pat? It was formal Patrick and not Pat. Yeah, I knew that. Yeah, why? Why'd you do that, Pat? It was formal. I just want to know why. I've never heard anybody call you Patrick. Hey, Patrick, don't do that. He'll be Macafover. He's going to get one out there

for Dan, just so he can see how it is. Patrick's cool. I don't care. People call me Patrick every once in a while. You know, the mom will drop. Why'd you put on the Christmas card? Well, I definitely put it on there. I said, put it on there. I want more space on this thing. You know, because Pat, just three letters, it's kind of annoying.

You know, Dan. You extend that thing to Danielle, though, your full name. That's a lot more letters. You know, you put Patrick on there. It's a little bit more space on there. You know what I mean? I don't buy that reasoning. Well, Dan, I just found out my name's Patrick on that card just now.

Just found out. Next year will be different, I promise. Is your name Daniil? It's a great card. Daniil? That's the proper pronunciation, yeah. What do you got today? NFL Live?

What are we talking about? What are we doing? NFL Live, we are doing, I should probably know this, Pittsburgh, Stroud, Baltimore, offense, Philadelphia, Dallas, Fields. Fields hot right now. Big game this weekend, too. Can go into the offseason on a high note,

knocking Green Bay Out of the playoffs Green Bay Back to back seasons With a chance to win And get in Loss at home would be Relatively

An interesting Conversation piece Sweet wink Into the fist bump Don't know who it was But they certainly On the other side Were like wow

Daniel Orlover Is a fucking cool guy Is that Swigover? Yeah Swigover That would be my guess as well Was that Big Swigover? Yeah No Swigover. Was that Big Swigover? No, Marcus is at home again. Is Mark Spears?

You took a shot there at the end. You took a shot at the end. Mark Spears filling in for him? No, Marcus has to come up here, I think, for the weekend because of the games. Alright. Did you say Mark Spears? Is he filling in or no? You guys are being complete idiots today.

What? This happens when it's slap happy. All right, Dan, sue us. To be honest, we won three hours today, so we should be getting fucking standing ovation. Yeah, that was not the conversation for the show. Anytime the show is longer than how much. What time did you guys land?

Past your bedtime. 2.40. Yeah, 2.40-ish. AJ, when did you guys land? Past your bedtime. 240. Yeah, 240-ish. AJ, when did your car come? You don't know the time I go to bed, Connor. AJ, your car never made it? Oh, my God. I just didn't know the time, so I stuck in that little FBO for about an hour and 15 seconds.

The guys were great in there. I appreciate everybody in there. The guys were great. Did you see them on the couch? Oh, no. Sat in the chair straight up. I appreciate everybody in there. You guys were great. Did you see him on the couch? Oh, no. Sat in a chair straight up. Oh, man.

Happy. I'm glad that you guys did that game. That's awesome. What was that? I mean, there's a little bit of, like, salt because I asked you to do a college game this year. You did. How about the – Twice. Yeah, you a college game this year. You did. How about the – Twice. Yeah, you did.

Twice. Yeah, you did. I remember that. You had that thing, though. Yeah, that thing happened to my thing. That Saturday, yeah. It was self-over whenever you – my phone. Bingo.

Yeah, so the iPhone over changed. Tim Covey. Yeah, Tim Covey. Screw it. Well, let's see how many – what about Monday? What are you about Monday? What are you doing Monday? Are you in Houston?

I'm not in Houston now. Oh. All right. Come on. I was. I kept my promise, right? Yep. Trying to get him for the night.

Yeah, that's still technically New Year's, same season. We just got Schefter. Boom. We got him set. Schefter has a set down right now. Oh, that's awesome. It was great. Why are you such a hater?

You sound like a hater right now. No, I'm just, I thought that people should know. That's all. Not being a hater. Just thought that people should know. Sounds like it. Yeah, we might have had a convo or two about, you know, getting you involved. Well, we did. We did.

We definitely did. A couple of them. In person, too, one of them. Let me get the boots on the ground here. Let's make sure we're going eye to eye here. Dan, it all comes together so quick. It does. This college football playoff, you seem to sneak up on it.

It doesn't come together that quick. You've known it was going to be on New Year's Day for basically the whole year. Yeah, but think about what happened to me about that game day on Saturday. I didn't know. Yeah, I had no idea. That was brand new. That whole weekend changed pretty much four days beforehand. You know what I mean?

It was late December. All right. All right. College, go over. I'm no idea. It changed pretty much four days beforehand. You know what I mean? It was late December. I'm getting out of here. Dan, Monday. Offers on table if we can get credentials, obviously. It's tough in Houston. In Rose Bowl, we were only allowed so many credentials. Couldn't even bring some of the boys that normally travel.

We apologize. Who didn't get to go? Big Nick didn't get to go. Big Pete. ZD Baby wasn't out there. That's tough. I would have brought you guys if I was there. No, you wouldn't. Yeah, but Dan, the thing about that is I wasn't there.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, hey, good luck NFL Live. 50 minutes away. Let's have a good one today. We need it. Boys need it. Get a rewatch. Obviously, I'll be there.

I'll bring it. Are you guys doing film? You and RC doing film? RC is, today's Tuesday, so he's doing Inside the NFL. Right, today's Tuesday, yeah. So, no, just me. A little Justin Fields stuff, a little Baltimore Ravens offense stuff. Got to keep that guy.

Is it NFL Lover? Yeah. No. No Swagoo or Ryan Clover? Swagoo is here. He's home. What about Laura? We saw her yesterday.

She was very nice to us. Righty's here. Too nice to us. Laura's. Laura's. She's the best. Laura's up today? Laura's the best.

Yep. Yep. Yep. Me, Laura, Marcus, and Mina. Oh, Marcus is... You just... You said... He said from his house.

That wasn't... Marcus is from his house. Mina's from her house. So... Yeah, son of a bitch. Yeah, so rude. This is Daynor Lover. Sniffing shoes, burping.

You guys deserve that. This album. You guys deserve that. Have some respect for the program. Everyone is farted in his money. Yeah, exactly. I'm mad on your couple. I deserve that. Have some respect for the program. You guys deserve that. That's kind of like my feeling towards you today. Yeah, plus thanks for not chewing on popcorn

today. That's nice. Yeah, you remember when you were going through that entire run where you thought you were Brad Pitt and you were eating every time you were on our show? Do you remember that? We love that. So, those times when like, hey, I'm coming from New York and I've got 17 minutes of a break and I hop on the show

and just try to feel my body, that's not good? No, we're not talking about those times. We're talking about times whenever you're on vacation and you're in your kitchen and you're like, you know what? Let me get some apples here.

Let me do a little popcorn here. Backwards hat. Yeah, let me throw some lacrosse balls around. You remember those? You were a thespian. And then we see him in thewards hat. Yeah, let me throw some lacrosse balls around. You remember those? You were a thespian. And then we see him in the equalizer. Yeah. Boom.

Oh. I actually watched Equalizer 3 on the plane on the way out to LA. Dan was not in that movie. What? What? I was just waiting the whole time. Just waiting for Denzel to stick a butter knife into his throat or something. And he never did.

And then the movie was Equal Over? It was Equal Over after that. Three. And then the movie was equal over? It was equal over after that. Did you just wish death on me? No, I'm talking about in the movie. You never seen the equalizer? He kills you. That's how it goes. He's going to set his watch at eight seconds, and then guess what? You're going to do something dumb.

He's going to pick up a butter knife and shove it right in your fucking jugular. And since it didn't happen, you're a lot. Can you tell us some of the quotes behind you there? You up at the ESPN? Yeah. Uh, I just go tell those people.

We said, hello, a lot of people love us in that building up there. A lot of anonymous quotes coming out of that building about this show in a super, I'll make sure I go hit them there up there. You know, uh,

they're ruining our network. Is that up there? Booyah, Stuart Scott, obviously. Rest in peace. We are men wearing makeup talking about sports. I think that's Kenny Mayne. Back, back, back, back, back. Boomer.

Yeah. He gave us cigarettes. He eyes it. He tries it. He buys it. From way downtown, bang, obviously Breen We got a Dan Ocles Yeah, what about you on there?

Dan Wagon, is that on there? Let's go Carson No, they paid you guys too much so they couldn't redo the wall Alright man, if you need a painter, we'll send it That's not our thing You can't stop him, you can only hope to contain him That's a legendary one Is that Mark Jackson

No You put me on that wall right there Start reading them and say Pat who said these Gonna have a tough go Rumbling stumbling bumbling He could go all the way Give me Stuart Scott Boom

Probably some Rich Eisen stuff up there. You can't fire me. It's my job. P.T. Peer. Yeah, obviously. You are looking. It's all about the Benjamins. All right.

Like button. That's Jermaine Dupri. All right. We will see you on NFL over. Okay, Paul? You guys have a great afternoon. I appreciate you. Be better next time. Okay, guys? Better energy? Thanks. Okay, Paul? You guys have a great afternoon. I appreciate you. Be better next time, okay, guys?

Better energy? Thanks. Okay, LeBron. That's what we're saying. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, Darren Lofton. Thank you, brother. Let's do some overreactions and let's get the hell out of here.

Oh, shit. I didn't even have to be reminded. I was trying to remember. I was trying to think of a Jover, but it's over. Reaction. Bummer. I thought we missed it. I think Dan enjoyed that.

I think he enjoyed that segment. Why do we do that every time it comes on? It's pretty good sport today. We didn't enjoy him sniffing shoes like a weirdo this morning. I mean, you didn't enjoy that? I didn't. I enjoyed the after he sniffed it. But I didn't enjoy the

actual act. Come on. I gotta watch it again. You can see it. I think he said, whoa, he smelled really good, I think. And I think he was just saying, this is some fine quality leather. Yeah.

You know what I mean? He was complimenting Stephen A for buying such a nice pair of shoes. Quality leather. But those Dahmer glasses, who told him? Did somebody tell him? That's you. Prescription. There's got to be a prescription, right?

No, he's not with none on there. Just some readers? He doesn't have glasses. I'll put these ones on every once in a while when I feel like I'm not opening my eyes enough and people are trying to take pictures of me, so I'll do this one right here. Or when we're having a very smart conversation. Yeah, or if there's some journalist doing something special, I like to pop these on so that whenever it's shown, the people say, look at that guy on the left.

He's smart. Ready? Look, he's showcasing it. Oh! That was like a real sniff, too. No one reacted. Yeah, I was watching the faces there Steven I don't think he saw the sniff Did he?

If Unk would have saw that sniff He did Is that what he said? I was about to say his reaction Going to be top notch regardless If we know Steven A and his podcast He probably would have respected it He probably would have had a big salad before

He'll probably put have had a big salad before. He'll actually, well, I've heard about that, but he will probably put this as a full thing on his show, and he'll get 7,000 retweets. And then Dan Orlovsky will have to be like, what? I like the smell. That's what I'll say.

That's Yukon Husky. Him and Molly. Molly's pumped about it, too, I assume. Is that what they do? What does that guy smell in my fucking... What's that? What'd you say? Is that they're soaking at Yukon?

Yeah. You got sniff shoes? Nah. Joe rocked up. That was aggressive. What's that? That was aggressive. I'm sure it was probably a lot of people at home that were...

Rex Ryan was like, Dan, that's the beginning. First time. It's just starting, Dan, that's the beginning. First time. It's just starting, Dan. It's gateway. Rex Ryan's like, let me take you under my wing. Next time you do that, you got to get your tongue out. To be clear, because we never actually verbalized it, we were talking about Woody Johnson hanging his chain from his dong.

I was talking about his dong. Yeah. We don't know. i didn't know because someone said you know he should be wearing a speedo i didn't know how that would work he's wearing around his neck in my eyes yeah i never put it no you're just saying that he falls into the icy hot on the knees because his fucking dick's like 18 inches and it touches his kneecaps when he's walking around i was just hypothesizing exactly okay i didn't know yeah of course i don't want to ever like just say something as a guarantee i would like to keep the door open and that's why we do journalism your own interpretation we don't know what he's walking around with responsible

speedo would be tough though because you i mean you have to coil your sausage. His last name, that was actually never his real name, Woody Johnson. That was just someone saw his penis one time, and Woody Johnson. Woody and Johnson. Put them together. Two hot dogs, one bun. That's Woody and Johnson here. They almost called him Woody Dong Johnson. Yeah.

Because of how big he was. Is it Richard? Yeah, that's why they call it Johnson. It's not over. Let's hear some of our reactions. We need to get some sleep. It's one of those days. What an honor.

What an honor to do that. Awesome. That was awesome last night. It was. It really was. Yeah. That was really awesome. What a game.

What a game. Overtime. I woke up this morning and thought, my first thought was actually, I wonder how long A.J. had to sit in that FBO. Well, your first thought should have been, I got like four extra hours of sleep than all these other guys. You and Ty in the back. I tried to stay awake because me and Deebo were going to play Euchre,

and then you asked him, like, all right, you got it? He was like, absolutely not. I was like, all right, not going to be playing Euchre. I'm going to take a nap. I said, I said there you should get after like the third game I was like you get it you know no I go you don't get any of these guys once I start to get it then you do something and then I don't know I'm like well that's aging yeah that was the ages yeah you're he's cheating that's why you don't understand what's happening I was not cheating you know that I was not cheating it's the only thing that is just it's just interesting how you play is when

everybody has thrown a card you're the last guy no one has thrown the highest card of that it's the only thing that is just it's just interesting how you play is when everybody has thrown a card you're the last guy no one has thrown the highest card of that suit and you're like who threw this who did this and it takes like five minutes debuts trying to learn he's lost then you throw the ace that we know you have and it's just like hey we just waited three minutes just so you could do this there's always a production a production. It feels like there's a production. Now, sometimes the production is because I think you genuinely forget the card that you just threw down four seconds ago. I think that happens. Yes, I tell you, I live in the moment.

So I forget Trump all the time. No, he doesn't. Trump is the strength suit. AJ's president. AJ doesn't forget DJ. I guess everyone doesn't know what Euchre is everyone doesn't understand euchre so yeah and by the way if it's past 10 p.m eastern it's eyes open over for me okay i don't think that's eyes eyes i forgot you're the rule maker for everything

it was it was anthony to juliover is what it was. Hammered down boys are good gamblers. It might be hammered over. Hammered down. Gabe Marenzi said he could fly to Mumbai and back before he gets out of the Rose Bowl. Yes, he did. Bucket list, once in a lifetime, never fucking coming back. Absolute nightmare getting out of this place, never doing it again.

I think a lot of people were sharing that sentiment. I heard Stephen A. this morning on First Take go, love being at the Rose Bowl. Loved it. The logistics are impossible. They need to have the Rose Bowl at SoFi. That is what he said. That's not bad.

There's a two-lane road in. Unbelievable. And it's not just a short two-lane road. It's like multiple miles seemingly. You got to be on that two-lane road going in and then on the way out. And there's how many thousand? I don't know if we got the official number. 97,000 people. And then all the checkpoints, they're trying to save the world, which we appreciate.

But the checkpoints, once you get through the traffic to get all the way to there, it's like now you're going through car TSA. And it's not just like mail it in like that fat. So in the soccer, it's like turn a car off. It's like immigration almost when you're going to another country, getting in there. So the process getting in impossible, the process getting out even harder. But when you're there, it is beautiful. It's cool. Amazing. It is absolutely beautiful, AJ. And we're very lucky

to experience it we're also very lucky that whenever we ask the world for their opinions some people at least now for now respond in a big way ladies and gentlemen we missed this yesterday but we are incredibly pumped for hashtag i don't want to overreact but ended up being a trending topic this morning we can't thank you enough because we're two days removed from the NFL, although there's probably a lot of college potential overreactions. Refs always seem to take it on the shins, but who did Ty see as beautiful overreaction? This one's from Joe at JoeLennox55.

Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but it's Tuesday. And why does Brad Allen still have a job? The NFL needs to get real, full-time officials who can protect the integrity of the league and sportsbooks. Hashtag Detroit versus everybody. Love that that's Detroit's calling card now. Once again, they're trying to screw us. Brad Allen's got a primetime game this weekend. Steelers-Ravens.

Yes, he does. Brad Allen's got all the eyes on him. He's going to bounce back in a big way. He's going to be throwing a good flag. He's going to be throwing a good flag, AJ. Let's think about that. We talked last night, I don't know if we were on the air or not, we were talking about how refs,

as the game goes, it gets closer and closer towards the end. I would assume they feel pressure just like players do. Can you imagine Brad Allen, now his mindset heading into a game? I can't imagine you can just, hey, I'm just going to block it all out. I'm just going to call a clean game. I think that would be tough.

After review, the ruling on the field. What if his mic goes off? They couldn't give him Jets-Patriots at 1 o'clock on Sunday? Whoa, whoa, whoa. A lot of implications in that game, Tony. A lot of implications. What are they? Oh, man.

I believe if the Patriots lose, they could have a top three pick. And, yeah, that's a lot of implications. Don't be trying to get yourself into these implications conversations. They are. That's a huge – we're talking about Mike Penix possibly being a top ten pick. We're talking about J.J. McCarthy. His name's Penix. Well, you know, Dez told me one thing, and that is my truth now.

So there are a lot of different players and a lot of different teams that could end up with either the two pick or the five pick. That's a big deal. You add Russell Wilson into the free agency discussion, and then all the – who did he say? He said Caleb, Drake, Jaden, and he said Michael Penix is going. This is Orlovsky we're talking about. J.J. threw in there.

J.J. McCarthy was in there. He's been talked about. Then you add Russell Wilson in there, who's probably going to cost a good amount of money. Flack is. Flack is. There's a lot of quarterbacks. Kirk Cousins, maybe. Mason Rudolph, probably.

Fields, maybe. Whoa. Eh. I think that one might be dead. Maybe. I feel like Chicago should just say, hey, we're winning. Sounded like you were wishing there, Foxy. It did.

I think he's good. I think the Bears are great right now. Is it Jared Gover up there? No. I mean, I'm just trying to get past this, right? I'm happy it didn't happen in the playoffs. I'm happy they clinched the division because if they didn't win last week and then this happened, I don't know how I would have reacted.

I would have lost my mind. They'll be okay, though. MCDC will use this. They'll get Grady or tougher, the whole deal. We watched that game at the Crypt, Crypto.com Arena, formerly the Staples Center, or in most people's eyes, still the Staples Center. Yes. Because Staples is not a company, neither is Crypto.com, I don't think.

They're done. But beautiful building, But beautiful building. Absolutely beautiful building. We were watching the Cowboys-Lions game in the basement of that place pretty much in a beautiful setup. Oh, gorgeous. Shout out to...

Big Mike. Big Mike is this guy who's worked for the Kings for 30 years. The fucking plug. Great hair. Great hair. Great hair. Phenomenal moxie. Great handshaker. Yep.

Got you everywhere. Got everything. Hey, Big Mike, we appreciate you in the Kings, pal. Mikey connections. Kings are rolling this year, too, right? Big Ben as well. Oh, yeah. Them and the Oilers played one to overtime, one to a shootout.

And then McDover and the boys get a big time win over the Kings. We were there for the entire thing. The Kings are an awesome first class organization. And got a chance to learn. Also in the same room, Frank Agnone. Frank Agnone. Legend. Hey, Frank Agnone.

The executive producer of Santa Barbara. Big brain, very Italian. white hair like Bob Barker. Mm-hmm. You're welcome, everybody. Married a couple times, great energy, knew who the fuck we were. That was wild. We're sitting there.

Crazy. Guy comes over. Hey, watch your show or whatever. I'm like, very nice to everybody. I'm incredibly high right now, too. So it was like, yep, nice to see you. How you do? Guy introduced himself, says his name.

Thank you so much. Have a good one. We're still watching Cowboys L Lions before we go out there. He goes out to watch it. And on his way away, I said, what's your name again? He says, full name. I go, my man. He walks away.

And I Google who he is, and we all go, holy fuck. That's the guy. Oh, yeah. That is the guy. That is the guy. So he comes back in the next intermission, and it's a whole new Frank. Frank. Frank.

Frank. Frank. Get over here, Frank. Frank, we are massive fans of old Frank. That LA Kings setup was dope. It was phenomenal. They took care of us in a big way. Big, big way.

Shout out to the Kings. And then that's where we saw Foxy's heartbreak, too. We're in the middle of this beautiful five-star restaurant. Probably one of the greatest rooms I've ever been in as a whole. Legitimately. One of the nicest places. They really do it well. And Foxy's just screaming in there.

Screaming. Oh, yeah. Frank Agnolver was like, what the fuck? Who's this guy? This guy's really loud, you know, doing his entire thing. His heart's breaking as we're having a blast. Thank you to the Kings. And this is good for Detroit long haul.

MCDC's going to continue to stack these chips. Let's go to another overreaction, shall we? Let's go to Freddie at edgyfreddie72. Edge, don't know, you know, hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but the Eagles are completely dead. The whole coaching staff needs to be fired or things will never change. Offense has no identity and the defense

is just horrendous. There's no chance of us winning a playoff game. It's Jover. Big pop from the gumption. Hell yeah. Nailed it. Edgy Freddy, it might be Jover. Big pop from the gumption. Hell yeah. Nailed it. Edgy Freddy.

It might be Jover over there. I don't think it's easy, though, to just replace both play callers. I think that's a massive ordeal. And it doesn't show up until it shows up. They have the talent, obviously, to be able to turn it around. But it doesn't feel like this is the Eagles' year this year, AJ. It doesn't feel like Philly fans love Patricia calling the defense right now. They don't love.

Which is weird. They don't love Sirianni right now either. Yeah, easy come, easy go. Whoa. Yeah. A turn? Oh, yeah. Big time.

We're talking about Philly. Got to win. Jeez. Got to win. Is this surprising? A little Super Bowl hangover, maybe? You got high standards over there. Philadelphia.

Losing both coordinators, that is a big, big deal. I do miss Sirianni talking his shit in the tunnel. Yeah. It's a lot better when they're winning. And this whole slide, whole slide started. Yep. Big Dom. That's right.

100% right. They thought they won that in the moment with Dre Greenlaw. Turns out. Big Dom's presence is an important one. He might be up for MVP. He Greenlaw. Turns out. Big Dom's presence is an important one. He might be up for MVP. He should be. A pretty valuable presence. Let's go to another one. I don't think he...

Next year. Scott Lawrence at ScottFree27. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but Chiefs are winning the Super Bowl. Y'all tried to deny it, but the dynasty is inevitable. Travis will retire after winning his third ring and going to Canton with his brother Jason. Don't believe me? Just look at the aura

in this pic. Sorry about it. Do we have the pic? Yeah, no, we don't, clearly. I'm being smart. There was a picture with it. I didn't even read that one. It is Travis and Taylor Swift and Brittany Mahomes and Patrick Mahomes on New Year's Eve. I've seen it. Travis has got sunglasses on.

Bingo. He looks so cool. And she's draped over him. They're in love. Love and life, yeah. They are in love. And Patrick and Brittany, I believe, holding hands. Yep.

They just beat Cincinnati. There were some haters from Cincinnati saying Patrick Mahomes stinks. You remember that? We heard from them. Yeah. We talked to them. They're like 16, 17 years old. Yep.

Are they big-time Bengals fans? Haters. Haters. They're still figuring the game out. Look at how happy they are. Look at the vibes. Boom. They just beat the Bengals.

It is a good pit. Happy New Year, team. There's a report. Happy New Year. Trax's people are pulling him out of a bunch of commercials and stuff because they think too much overexposure, people are going to start not liking him. I think they need to have him talk more from himself

as opposed to reading other people's books. I agree. Because it's hard not to love Travis when you hear him talk. A lot of people ain't listening to what he's saying these days. No, they're not, which is weird. But that's how it's going to go. That's just life at the top, baby. That's why you got to wear sunglasses,

because the future's so goddamn bright. Amen. I will always be a Travis Kelsey fan. I will always be a Kansas City Chiefs fan. I thought they were dead just a couple weeks ago and then yet again. Now they get a win. It's like, you know what? What are we thinking?

Yeah. You see that New Year's pick? What are we? They got those two guys on a team. Now, granted, it certainly helps that there's a multi-billionaire in there who's one of the most successful people of all time. But look, those two on the end there, the one with the beard and the one with the backwards hat, the one with the beard and the one with the backwards hat,

the one with the sunglasses and the one with the picnic table shirt, do the best ever play football in history. That's right. Just never forget that. No one's told them it's Joe Bolver. No. They said, just wait until somebody tries to come into the home of the Chiefs.

Let's go to another overreaction, shall we? Here's from Big Michael at Big MikePKP236. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but I'm letting these naysayers know that the Indianapolis Colts are ready for fucking war. Gardner is peaking at the right time, and no one wants to face this

Colts squad in the playoffs. Let's beat some Texan ass and get to the dance. Hell yeah, Big Mike! Texans coach Saturday night primetime here in the Loud House Lucas Oil Stadium. Playoff spot on the line. And if the Jaguars were to lose on

Sunday to the Titans, AFC South Championship on the line. CJ Stroud's been balling. Gardner's been balling. But they got to do it in the Loud House? I think not. I can't wait to see this Colts team go dancing.

They've been in the wild card spot, both with Kornacki and our graphics, for like the last seven weeks. They've remained. All you need is one more dub over her team you know very well and shane steichen yeah will be locked in for coach of the year finalist if that's absolutely he'll have him locked in and after the raiders game he said no time to celebrate we're on the houston it'll be a big one huge one obviously in the loud house i think gardening the boys show up i think so too

you know there has been a couple games where they haven't which is football nfl football but they've been playing great and shane steichen you you know, you talk about the Eagles issue. That guy not being in the building, I think he's a big deal. Not only because of his brain, like football acumen, but I think he's a... Details. Yeah. Guy.

And you hear Jason Kelsey talk about the difference from this year to last year. He's like, there's no real... We're not really as disciplined or as accountable or whatever. It's kind of sloppy. It's like Shane Steichen might have been the, hey, we're going this far and then we're stopping. We're going this, we're doing that.

He's done it with the Colts. It's been phenomenal. We did not expect this year to go how it has gone, especially if you would have told us that the number four overall pick Anthony Richardson will be out four out of the first five games and then done for the rest of the season. It's like, well, we're fucked then, right? Because we're right back to where we were last year. Shane Steichen and Gardner Minshew, AJ.

We're a problem. Let's go to the next one. I don't know who we're playing. There's a couple of trouble situations brewing for the playoffs as well, but nonetheless, at Shane O. Smith. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but the Dallas football team, Cowboys, well, I don't know if that works, but are destined to win the Super Bowl.

If the refs are with us like they were against Detroit, nobody stands a chance. It's Dallas and the refs against the world. Hashtag, how about them Cowboys? That's a good way to look at it, AJ. I like that. Look at Big Mike having the refs on his side. Yeah, and, you know, like Jerry said, I read Jerry's quote.

He said, when you try to make it fuzzy, sometimes it can get fuzzy, right, for you? Yes, when you try to fuzzy it up, sometimes it can get fuzzy for you, I believe is what Jerry Jones said. Something along those lines. He was talking about reporting and them hiding and disguising and multiple. I think everybody around the NFL thinks the same way about it. Like, yes, Brad Allen, we need to get that right. But also,

you guys are doing a lot for our report. If you play with fire, you're going to get burned. Going to be hot in the kids? Yeah. Play stupid games. Win super prizes. Exactly like that. Not that that was stupid. It was next level smart, but you get

what we're saying. All the metaphors make sense in this situation because they were trying to change the game brad allen just wasn't listening it wasn't there at the beginning of the game to hear about yeah if you're gonna try to be the smartest person in the room you're not Amen. Good job. Amen. Ben Johnson might be. Yeah, he might. MC DC might be. We have no idea.

Have you seen what they've done up there? Yeah. Great play. Yeah. Great play. They had a great play down there. Ballsy play. Ballsy play.

Well, and even Penne walking next to him. Like, that's a funny. Like, that's even, like, super smart. But you're right. I don't know if they're the smartest people. They should. Like, that's even, like, super smart. But you're right. I don't know if they're the smartest people. They should, this weekend, just for fun, the whole O-line should walk up. The whole O-line.

All of them. Get a penalty. Six or seven of them. Seven guys reporting eligible. Yeah, what now? Reffing it. Illegal formation by who? Everybody on the Lions.

Five-yard penalty. MCDC is good. Again. Just takes a stand on the entire thing. Go ahead, Gohmann. Actual question. If they do, so in this situation where the team doesn't have timeouts, if the offensive lineman who is reported eligible is the wrong offensive lineman

reported eligible, how do they change that? Let's say the Lions do hear that and obviously it wasn't the guy they wanted to be reported eligible and they can't call a timeout can that even be changed or once they report that to the crowd 70 is eligible like that's is that just locked in I do wonder if you can make an edit and be like no no no 68 68 and then correction 68 is the eligible receiver. Yeah.

Defense at a disadvantage because once you report, we're looking at that guy out of the huddle because that's going to – because that was an unbalanced formation if Decker is eligible, but if he's ineligible, it's a balanced formation. He's just a left tackle. It's tough. So, like, how do you even – like, is there any way out of that situation once they report Skia as the eligible?

Mm-hmm. That's a great question. Unless the ref just says, hey, it's on me. We'll give an extra 10 seconds of the play clock so you guys can figure it out. Play clock operator. All right, play clock operator. Let's do it.

It's crazy, dude. It is a wild way for the Lions to get fucked, though, seemingly. But also kind of self-inflicted a little bit but definitely some ineptitude from the other side it's the perfect story for detroit it is so perfect it is the perfect story for detroit to propel themselves and on dallas hey way to go they call it your way never do that never do that for the dallas cowboys you never do that let's go to another overreaction, shall we? It's from Cameron Manfredi. Manfredi?

First one. Manfredi. Cameron Manfredi. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but I'm no longer bummed out to be a Steelers fan. This team has done a 180 the last two weeks and has got the playoff juices going. Pickett is no longer the ticket, and they need to keep pounding that rock Don team's throats. Hashtag here we go.

Steelers, here we go. Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl. Here we go. What's going on with Pickett over there, dude? There's some real storylines brewing over there. You hear this, AJ? Oh, yeah. Where there's smoke, is there fire? Well, that? There's some real storylines brewing over there. You hear this, AJ? Oh, yeah.

Where there's smoke, is there fire? Well, that's what they always say. Uh-huh. Yeah, there is stuff going on, but I don't know what it is, and I don't care because Mason's our starting quarterback right now, and I'm focused on making the playoffs. Well, that's the problem. Nobody seems to care about Kenny Pickett.

This guy didn't get a real opportunity with an actual offense coordinator. That could be true. He's drinking beers. I mean, his one game that he did, he was dominant. It was awesome. Maz is where we're at right now. We're going to try to make the playoffs with him right now.

Who's that? Maserati, Mason, Maz. That name's been thrown around a little bit. I thought it was Maserati. Mazda was used. Mazda Mitch. If Gus can do it, why can't I? I thought it was Mazda. Mazda was used for somebody else. Mazda Mitch. Oh, boy.

If Gus can do it? Reliable. Why can't I? There's a full resume, Hall of Fame stuff. Sure. Credibility. I mean, there's a lot that would separate you from Gus. 2004, the vibes.

And the vibes right now in Pittsburgh are sky high. 2020. 2004 was for the vibes. It was. It was a great year. Ben was drafted 15-1, lost in the AFC Championship. To who? That stunk.

I said the Patriots. Oh. But 2024, the vibes? This team right now reminds me of the 2014. How come? Just, you know, the way that they're running the ball down people's throats. Naj, you ran the ball how many times? 40 times between Naj and Jalen Ward.

Naj throwing dudes, stiff-arming dudes out of the stadium. 24 pass attempts for Mason. Moz. Moz. Come on. I don't like that. Are you trying to build a brand or not? Huh?

Are you trying to build a brand or not? No, because after I thought about it, I thought about the other Moz, and I don't like it. So what are you going to go with now? Mace, maybe? Camera on a mace, it is what it is. Sports, you can't do that either. Bear mace?

Mason jar. I don't like that. You don't like the mason jar? No. Mace over. Might be. Let's call him Deuce. How come?

Because number two. All right. I mean, I feel like we can get something here. Deuce. Rudolph, Mason. Yeah, let's not just stay on. Christmas is Joe over, so let's leave that behind. You're right.

Christmas is Joe over. Yeah, but like Rocket Arm Rudolph or something. That's cool. Are you going to start calling him that? Rocket off. Mason, but like rocket arm Rudolph or something. That's cool. Are you going to start calling him that? Rock it off. Mason, rock it off. That's right. You should knock it off. Get your rocket off.

I think so. Maybe bop it off too. Yeah, there it is. Now we're bringing quarterbacks of the past back. Oh, masturbating? What? What are we doing? We didn't break that news either. Nope. That wasn't our fault.

We were thrown into a fucking war. How were we not supposed to? That was a problematic situation. Guy was on the show earlier today. Just saying vibes are high, okay? Sounds like it. People bopping all over. Who's bopping?

Everybody. We heard about it. There was an ungodly amount of bopping going on. Have you heard about this? Oh, yeah. Testimony. Oh, okay. Yes.

It's messed up. That one. I feel like a lot of quarterbacks go through that. There's been many reports of quarterbacks going through that. But you're cranking it? Through what? What are they going through? It's that old McCown video.

Bingo. That was interesting. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's a PSA. I follow a couple people that have had those PSAs put on their posts, Instagram posts. Sure. Special teams players. What the fuck's going on, boys?

You guys all right? You guys trying to take the skin off your dick? Yeah. What's the problem? Most of them. That's the goal. Most of them do freak me out. Weatherford's I like.

I don't know if you've seen any of his. Those are the ones that actually are kind of like, okay, fine. Steve, okay. But the other ones that they just don't hit like his. I'm laughing because I'm in my goofy slap happy. I haven't

slept much, but I'm being serious. Are you saying it's Luberdover for them? It'll never be Weatherfover. Ever. Just know that. I'm going to buy you one of the two plans that Steve Weatherford is selling right now. Here we go. Okay, here we go.

Please, I fucking need this. Sign up, Tom. Please. I need this. I need this to start 2024. I fucking need this. Please make it. Bro, he's so jacked.

Yeah. That's my goal. He's the most jacked human of all time. That's my goal. How about the rock? He's running like 80-mile races. Liver King's the best. 100.

100-mile. Steve, 100-mile race as a super jock dude. I don't know how he's doing it. Now, he does wear those tiny little shorts. He does. I also need those. He's going through the neighborhood, and I'm like, I wish I lived there to see this vanilla gorilla running by. He's the most jock dude that I've seen.

Yes. The Rock. The Rock. He's strapped up. Did you see him come out at Raw? Oh, yeah. That guy. He's strapped up. Did you see him come out in Raw? Oh, yeah. That guy. He's killing it.

Yeah. Yeah. I'd say. Here's for a Weatherford plan for you. Come on. Here we go. Come on. All right.

Here we go. Come on. The house. Oh! We'll do it again. We'll do it again. One fucking time. 2024, I need this shit.

Yes, here we go. Oh, no. One more, one more. Come on. Come on, dude. That's the universe. Cabo Wabo. Why do you need that, Con?

Why do you need the program? Here we go. Oh, no. I wanted you to be on it. You got rug burn all over your meat or something what no idea brother alright

we're gonna get out of here it's been a good show 3 hours 45 minutes what's our problem a lot of them we appreciate everybody sending their overreaction tweets. There was more that were better, but to be honest, we got to get the fuck out of here. What a weekend. Yeah.

What a weekend. Thank you, football. Love you, football. Football is the absolute best, as are all of you, that allow us to do this every single day. We'll be back tomorrow. All tomorrow. Huge. Huge. We'll be back tomorrow. All tomorrow. Huge.

What were you saying tomorrow? You're breaking some news tomorrow, Darius? Huge news. What? Huge. Pull on and take it for the last 30 seconds. I think Kush and JJ said they were breaking news too tomorrow. Hey, Kush is breaking news? That's what I thought I heard.

Let's call him. Yeah, that's a good idea. Let's ask him why that snapper was doing what he was doing. That's an even better idea. Hey, why is the snapper so... Because he's a good player. He plays for Bama. Yeah. Fan of the program.

Couldn't he pick up five-man pressure? That's a good question, too. Those are... It was five big men. That's also a question. It was five big men. Fast, too. Michigan was fast.

Yeah. What the hell? Car wash? Trying for another war practice. No, sure. I'm running. What's up, boys? Oh, the half marathon.

Is this the long run? Is this the half marathon? Oh, yeah. Boy, if you take the video away. 10 miles today, boys. How far in are you? How far in are you? Four and a half.

Hey, you got good juice, good vibes. 10's nothing. Do 20. Dude, I feel great. Let's go. All right, let's continue to waste some energy. You're breaking news tomorrow or what? Darius is breaking news tomorrow. Are you going to do the same? Yep, I'm breaking news.

All right, safe travels, buddy. Thanks, buddy. See you tomorrow. No, JJ. What's his. See you tomorrow. No, JJ, right? What's his problem? It's an animal. He is an animal. He's running a half marathon. Is that right?

He had a lot of breath left for some miles. Dude, I ran up the tunnel at the Rose Bowl to take a piss in between commercial breaks at game day and back down the tunnel. Sat down. They had Steve Sarkeesian on the thing. Like, Pat, you got a question for him? I'm like, I had to hold my breath because of how tired I was and had to get a whole question out with one breath.

And then immediately afterwards, dying, breathing. He's running four miles having a full conversation with us? Yeah. What's his problem? He's on the Weatherford. That's all I'm trying to get on. He ran that 110, too, right before overtime. Different reasons.

We did go over. Yeah, you guys did. I was off. All in the sideline. Yeah. I was running alongside Nick Saban. Hilarious. You're beating Tebow.

Well, he dropped his phone. Ball scooters, drop scooters. Hey, we're live. Oh, boy. What's going on? I don't like the negative. It's 2024. Oh, boy.

We talked. You know what I mean? Happy New Year, JJ. Good to see you. More of the vibes. It's 2024. Oh, boy. You know what I mean? Happy New Year, JJ. Good to see you. Happy New Year, guys. Hey, Darius is breaking news tomorrow on the show. AQ Shipley's breaking news on the show tomorrow. Any thoughts on maybe, you know, continuing to trim breaking news tomorrow? Big breaking news Wednesday.

Yeah. What are they going to break? Well, that's why it's happening tomorrow. That's why it's happening tomorrow. What do you think, JJ? Break some news tomorrow? Breaking news Wednesday or what? Come prepared.

I mean, yeah. I don't know how great it will be, but I'll break something. Yeah! All right! We've got a big one tomorrow, dude. We're excited for that. Tell us about your company on air. I'm really excited for it.

Looking forward to it. Hey, Connor, how are you? Suck it, buddy. Good. Good to see you too, JJ. Thanks for that. Yeah yeah you have short arms i saw when you caught the ball at the rose bowl and then you threw it back you have short arms but but i caught the football i was impressed i dropped the kickoff broke a guy's camera lens did that punter not get like i don't know how

they didn't get that left his leg out there a little. The ref, hey, us and the ref actually had a very good relationship. I think he watches the program. His name's Mike. Came up to us before the game, and we asked him about how he was going to do the game. I think we talked about this during the game. He was like, we're going to be observers. We're going to let the boys play, and we're going to be consistent. That motherfucker was.

Punter gets killed, doesn't call anything. Quarterback gets killed, doesn't call anything. Fight after the play, doesn't call anything. They're gets killed, doesn't call anything. Fight after the play, doesn't call anything. They're like, hey, we're just letting him play. He was real.

I appreciated that, JJ, I did. I appreciate it as well, I do. I just, I was watching, and I heard you guys

talk about it, so I knew you were a little bit okay with it, but man, that guy got ran through. Yeah, and he said, didn't he hold his leg up

a little long? That's what the ref said. I'm like, are you talking shit to me right now? He said that, I think D-Butt said that too. Yeah, that was said, didn't he hold his leg up a little long? That's what the ref said. I'm like, are you talking shit to me right now? He said that. I think D-Bot said that, too. Yeah, that was his first response. He was kind of.

Leaving it out there. He was kind of holding it up there. I mean, it was a pose. It was like Steph Curry holding a three, you know, just holding it up there. No, that's his form. That is not a foul. That's form. That is not holding it up there.

And remember, he would go on to hit a 62-yard ball. Yeah, he played well after that hit a 62-yard ball that would change the entire game. Good game last night. Big Ten representing pretty well in the natty, pal. I mean, double Big Ten National Championship. No big deal. It's coming home, baby. Wisconsin almost pulled off. If you remember correctly, Washington

is a Big Ten team. Don't you guys take this from the Pac-12? It's their last year. Oh, Big 10 arrogance. I like this angle. Every single national championship should play at the Rose Bowl. I mean, it's just a fact. No, you've never been there.

Easier getting to Mumbai. Yeah, well, that's what people say. It's impossible to get in and out of there. If they just start, if they make a ton of, well, ton of a whole nother. They got them over there. Anyways, you breaking news tomorrow? Yeah, we're breaking news. Breaking news Wednesday? Yeah, sure. I'll figure something out. Oh, boy. All right you breaking news tomorrow? Yeah, we're breaking news. Breaking news Wednesday?

Yeah, sure. I'll figure something out. That a boy. Make sure it's real, too. We're fucking journalists. Are you breaking news tomorrow? No, no. Other people. Spread the rum. That's delegation. That's a good boss. Hell yeah, people forget.

Amen. Thank you, JJ. I'm going the rest of the day on a powerful... What are you doing? You're sitting here. I just finished lifting, and I'm considering doing cardio or not. Do it. Connor says do it. There's a playoff push coming here.

You're still a free agent. Come on. Why are you still lifting the way you are, huh? AQ's running in the neighborhood right now. I enjoy looking and feeling good. Yeah, you need to look outside. AQ Shipley's running. You should maybe join him for the last six miles of his day.

I know. I saw him with an AK-47 on his back. We must protect this house. All right. See you tomorrow, buddy. Later, guys. See you tomorrow. Breaking news Wednesday.

Boom. Boom. Huge. Hey, listen. You better bring it. There's a lot of news coming. You started this. No problem with that.

Tell. Is it going to be punditry news or, like, journalism news? What do you think it's going to be? We'll see. You got a lot of breaking news. Wow. Okay. A lot of time left.

Breaking news Wednesday coming right down the pipe tomorrow. Mm-hmm. All of us probably going to sleep at least an hour or two today. Mm-hmm. Maybe catch up from what we did yesterday. There's a chance. I love that you had to sit at that fucking airport for two hours, AJ.

Not quite two, but yeah, I almost, I was going to get in an Uber and just drive that direction, be like, hey, I'm going to get dropped off at a gas station so we can kind of, but there's no Ubers at 315. Yeah, especially up there. Oh, in Indiana.

I would have drove it. It was good, honestly. It was all good. You would have been Indiana. Yeah. I would have drove him. It was good, honestly. It was all good. You would have been his driver? I would have been his driver. All right, let's get out of here. See you all tomorrow. You're the best.

Happy New Year. We love you. Goodbye. Oh! I got to say it, though. Oh. Uh-oh. It's really the only thing I say to people.

Oh, yeah. It's a good message. Yeah. And it should continue in 2024. Yeah. Amen. Yes. Comment how this ball goes in. message. Yeah. And it should continue in 2024. Yeah. Amen. Yes. Comment how this ball goes in.

Please. I can't get my hopes up again. Top tier with the program. I can't. I can't do it again. Steve Weatherford playing. You got another. It might be fate because you got that ball before the show.

You did. Said Connor would take that. Yeah. This is for a plan. Okay. Elite membership. Top tier. If I make mine.

It's that one. It's that one. Yeah, if you earn it. I mean, maybe that's what it's supposed to be because that is a Weatherford thing. You would have to earn it. You want to describe what that ball is there? Come on, Connor. This is a Nocta basketball.

It's Drake's. It says, sometimes you, sometimes me, Connor. This is a Nocta basketball. It's Drake's. It says, sometimes you, sometimes me, always us. Is that a $100 ball? $200. It's a women's basketball as well. So the hoop should be bigger for Con Man trying to earn himself into a Steve Weatherford workout plan. That's a long shot.

Jabu to defense. Hey, Bruce, can we move this fucking thing one time Jesus fuck Nice Hey Bruce good work back there Good defense I appreciate that Make him earn it Bruce This is for Weatherford You have to find it though

I don't know What the Son of a bitch I don't know. What the fuck? Son of a bitch! Don't have it today. I usually make those. I usually... You gave it a chance. I usually make those.

He doesn't want to work out. That's what I just heard right there. I swear I usually got those in the bag. Tomorrow morning, see you boys in there. I never make it. You're going to be in there? Yeah. Really? Is it 20, 25?

You're joining the Hawkeyes? Yeah. Let's give another look at Connor's attempt here. Is he tracking? Is it? Is it? Is he tracking? Ah, I left.

You're going for the bank, I see. All right. This one's Jover. From the Thunder, Dover. How long is this last, you think? I think it's got legs. I think this thing's got legs. A couple days.

Gumpy, how? As frequent. There's 62,000 people watching. As frequent, I don't think so, but I think this has legs all the way to the NBA finals. To the Super Bowl. Gumpy, how did As frequent. As frequent, I don't think so, but I think this has legs all the way to the NBA finals. To the Super Bowl. Gumpy, how did we fall into Joe Verger? Super Bover.

I've kind of been beating this drum for a long time already. I'm glad everybody's hopping on board. Oh, yeah, I've heard it for sure, but I think, like, how heavy you've been hammering it has made us all just be like, all right, go. Let's do it. I think also the Joe Bover 1990 Fleer card kind of made everybody Joe Bover. But remember, it is not Joe Bover down in Miami.

Not yet. Not yet. You sent the card out. Yes, you did. That was just for that game. Yeah, plus the card's one thing. Gump's got a nuclear weapon in his back pocket when it comes to Joe Bover. Put it in the draft.

Whenever it's officially Joe-ver, it will be Joe-ver. Yeah, you saw the Finns pick. Really? Let's get out of here. There's over 60,000 people watching this, and I would like to tell all of you. No way. You need to figure it out.

On YouTube? We just started a new year. You can make a lot more decisions that are better for yourself. It'd be a good time to do it. Plus like 600,000 on ESPN Plus right now too. That's not accurate. We are the kings of ESPN Plus though. A lot of people watching us over there.

I watch stuff on ESPN Plus. Move over, MJ. Me too. Well, that beat us. Woodstock Daily Show. Yeah. I think the title could be biggest daily show in the history of ESPN+, if we wanted to.

But boy, those events that they do. We can't hold their jocks over there. Lab sports. They are big. They are big. They are big. Yeah, there's some soccer games, too, that have really done some damage on ESPN+. UFC. Huh?

El Clasico. Yeah, definitely Dana White and UFC. And then the boxing, I think. Floyd and Conor. That was on there as well. But soccer on there really does well. El Clasico over. Soccer games do well over there.

El Clasico between Barcelona and Real Madrid over. So many overs in there. El Clasico between Barcelona and Real Madrid over. So many overs in there. El Clasico over. Barca over. Real Madrid over. This show's over. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Happy 2024. We're all gonna go nap.

Goodbye!