The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1048 - Trenches Wednesday With Michael Lombardi, JJ Watt, World Darts Championship Coverage With Nigel Seeley, AQ Shipley and Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 3, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about all the drama surrounding yesterday’s show, Mike Tomlin’s mic’d up segment from Inside the NFL and his confidence in the Steelers right now, plus all the different playoff scenarios and implications as we get ready for week 18. Joining the show to chat about everything happening in the NFL, what he would do at the top of next year’s draft, who he likes this weekend with everything on the line, and much more (21:31-55:43). Next, future Hall of Famer, 3x DPOY, Houston Texans Ring of Honor member, JJ Watt joins the progrum to chat about all his biggest takeaway’s from week 17 of the NFL season, if he’d rest starters going into week 18 with a playoff spot already clinched, his thoughts on the Steelers as a whole, the David Tepper situation, if he dealt with the overexposure that Travis Kelce’s managers fear he’s having right now, and much more (1:07:52-2:35:36). Later, betting insider and handicapper, Nigel Seeley joins the show from across the pond to break down the 2024 World Darts Championship and 16 year old phenom Luke “The Nuke” Littler, and what he expects from the final (3:07:33-3:10:22). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the thunderdome on this january 3rd 2024 this sports program starts now football is happening yeah at all times all the ways in all the places in the biggest football of the year is happening as we speak going forward. Now, there's a national championship to be won between Michigan and Washington. Oh, Michigan and Washington. There's a T in there. Down in Houston on Monday, which we will be live from, which we are incredibly lucky for. Then how about Week 18 this weekend? Playoff implications on the line.

Division championships on the line. Division championships on the line. A trip to the promised land, which is the playoffs where anything can happen, is on the line for like 11 different teams have stuff to happen this weekend. It is a fantastic day. We can't thank you enough for joining us here on this glorious Trenches Wednesday, which will include J.J. White in the second hour. Not sure there will be any threatened lawsuits with that one. Coming today from J.J. Watt's conversation. Never know.

Might have a bone to pick. You never know. Which is the thing. It's tough. Whenever you're freewheeling and dealing in here, you know, and you're having conversations. Letting it fly. They can certainly lead to some places that cause, like,

international news and things like that. And whenever there's accusations made about people, they can lead to some places that cause like international news and things like that and whenever there's accusations made about people that can lead to lawsuits now let's have been in one before yes with uh brett farve now how'd that case end well it ended with me having to read a letter uh basically stating that i know nothing uh that anybody else doesn't know publicly already that i'm not in the know for that whole thing. And then that was kind of disappeared, but that was a big thing for a long time. How did that come? Well, we just started making jokes about stuff. We started talking shit about stuff.

And then our show, I think that is a good part of what we do, is we're able to kind of just roll with the punches. We're able to have a good time. We're all rather invested and studied in what's happening around the sports world at all times. Kaitlin Clark last night.

Oh, hell yeah. Wait till you hear about Luke Littler today. Oh, good. So we are very much in that world. So everybody that comes on the stage has to be able to basically keep up with where we're headed. There's no formal outline of what we're going to talk about, how we're going to talk about it. There's no A block, B block, C block. There's no scheduled conversations.

There's no scheduled debates. There's no scheduled debates. There's no topics for you to think about before you get in there. There is just an opportunity to talk about damn near everything for three and a half hours. And in doing so, the upside of that is some magic can come that you never knew was going to come. Absolutely. Good times can be had.

Laughs can be had. Especially when you're rolling on like two hours of sleep like we were yesterday after the Rose Bowl. You can have a blast. And on the flip side, there could be some things that were certainly probably, I mean, we're going to have to hear from Aaron on that, meant to be shit talk joke that can then become something that is obviously a very serious allegation

that then leads to a massive overnight story, one in which, well, put baby down, sleep, haven't seen her in a while, and then I pick up my phone. Oh, boy. But I can see exactly why Jimmy Kimmel felt the way he felt, especially with his position. But I think Aaron was just trying to talk shit. Now, did it go too far? And a lot of people,

Jimmy Kimmel certainly said that was the case. We and I immediately pawned it happening, trying to be like, ooh, you know. But that is Aaron and Jimmy. They've been jousting a bit. I don't know, you know? So, like, we obviously don't like the fact that we're associated with anything negative ever. We like our show to be an uplifting one,

a happy one, a fun one, but it's because we talk shit and try to make light of everything. Some things, obviously, people get very pissed off about, especially when they're that serious allegations. So we apologize for being a part of it. Can't wait to hear what Aaron has to say about it. Hopefully those two will just be able to settle this.

You know, not court-wise, but be able to chit chat, move along. Because remember, you're allowed to disagree with people's opinions. You're allowed to say like, oh, I don't, you sound dumb. The more and more you talk, you sound dumber and dumber. And then you're allowed to just move on. You know, that's the beautiful thing about like a football locker room that I was very lucky to experience. Grew up in a soccer world, played a lot of sports, obviously. But then whenever you get dropped into a football locker room that I was very lucky to experience. Grew up in a soccer world, played a lot of sports, obviously. But then whenever you get dropped into a football locker room, you realize quickly, damn, there's a guy from Compton here,

and there's a guy who grew up with $100 million right there. There's a guy from South Florida here, and then there's a white trash guy from the hills of West Virginia or North Carolina in here. Do you think they're all going to have the same views on life? No. They came up in much different backgrounds. They have much different people influencing their thoughts and opinions and reasoning for why they feel the way they feel. But whenever you get in that locker room, shit talk, shit talk. You're an idiot. You're dumb. We move forward. We got to win a game. We're also going to go hang out. I had never seen anybody do

that before us. You white, you know what you you got like that is the beautiful thing about it so with all that being said can understand why jimmy got incredibly pissed yeah definitely completely understand that especially with his position but also i think aaron is like hey this guy has said some stuff about me you know in his monologue he's just trying to shit talk i don't think he meant anything else, but he's going to have to clarify that. For us, we would like to just continue to be a place where people can escape life. In that moment, we didn't for a lot of folks and a lot of reasons. We shall move on because there is fantastic things happening in the sports world for us to chat about.

The toxic table is here at Boston Corner and that Ty Schmidt. That's a nice old panda bear. Yeah, I appreciate that. The panda's kind of giving you that look like, hey, football's coming to an end. You need to kind of take it all in. But you mentioned something there early. The only thing that has been planned, at least from my experience over the past three years, has been this day in history.

Twice. Yeah, and that was only two times. And I think we know it didn't go well, per se, but that's kind of how it goes. Because a lot of people do think like, hey, you know, how do you guys do this? Like, how are the questions set the way they are? How the hell, you know, do your conversations go in that direction? Because a lot of people, I mean, I think it was two years ago, the choreographed show was being thrown out there.

And we were just an internet show. Yeah. Now numbers are going to come out. It's very dumb how many people are watching the show, which we also have to remember. We have to be a lot more cognizant that not everybody's going to understand the tone of everything we're doing.

So I try to preface everything that we say with at least a ha ha. When I'm asking them our questions, when I'm having a conversation with a guest, like we will give them like, I don't want to say reasons or excuses but like hey what we're trying to ask you here is not a setup question but we will you know try to prep i try to preface everything yeah because in the clipping world that we're in it can get clipped

and taken and boom and gone and people can see it and all of a sudden what happened before this well for like three minutes before that there was something else happening so we try our best to do that but we must be a little bit we We got to. I think we do. Let's mature a little bit. Yeah. Yep. Let's mature a little bit. Maybe.

Because the numbers that get sent to me are a lot. There's a lot of people. I mean, I. There's a lot of people watching the show. Yeah. Yesterday. Yeah. You said there were 60,000 people at the end of the show.

Four hours in on a terrible. I mean, one of the worst shows of all time. It was awful. And a combination of Jover for the last hour and a half of the show. What are you talking about? I mean, it's Jover for the most part. You know, we were just – but again, that's a slap-happy thing. That's going to happen.

Yes. You know, some people are going to hate it. Some people are going to love it. And people do hate it. Yeah. There's people calling to boycott the show right now, obviously, because everything happened. I don't even have Aaron Rodgers on the show anymore.

It's like, yeah, that's a four-time MVP, first ballot Hall of Famer. So I understand that maybe what he's saying you don't even have Aaron Rodgers on the show anymore. It's like, yeah, it's four-time MVP, first ballot Hall of Famer. So I understand that maybe what he's saying, you don't agree with him. Hey, everybody on this stage doesn't agree with a lot of things that a lot of people are saying. That's why we have the disclaimer at the beginning. It's like, you're allowed to disagree, allowed to laugh at it. Boom. There it is. Like, that's a part of it. Now, granted,

where there's influence and things like that, and people can make the most of everything, especially with serious allegations. Very, very, very, very serious allegations. I think we just got to be smarter about that. We need to learn about this. But also, we're never going to be scripting what people are saying. No, never.

That can't happen. We're not smart enough to do that. Just have to remember, because I forget all the time, people actually do watch this. Yeah, everyone feels like it's just us. Just got to remember, big room. Big room. Not a lot of people.

No. You know what I mean? So we're just kind of in here, literally our own little bubble. Our own little thunderdome, if you will. We also can't script, because if there's ever a strike, then we can't do the show. That's one half of the Hammer Cowboys with a big brain. Man, that's a great point.

That's a big brain thought right there. Wow. Because remember, they were calling me a scab because I did the ESPYs open. Yeah. Because they couldn't find anybody to do the ESPYs monologue because the strikes were happening, the actor and the writer's strike. And it's like, I've never written anything. So I think we're good.

In my notes section, I guess, journal a little bit. Sure. I hope the writers are very intelligent, very smart, can make things much better than we could ever make. You prove that every single day. We hope they figure it out. But with that being said, yeah, I can go, Ted, you want, what do you, yeah, I could go just talk out there if you'd like. You can do that. And every day we get to do that.

And I think we do a pretty good job of enlightening people on things that are happening. And although, because I wear a tank top and because of the human I am, because of the type of jovial atmosphere we have in jocularity sometimes, I don't think people will ever really listen to our conversations and the words that are coming out. I think there's some people that listen to music and they only hear the sound. They don't hear the lyrics. So it's like I think a lot of people don't give us credit for the lyrics of the songs that we're speaking because of how we deliver it and how we look at it as well. I think it's a lot of like, oh, he's just yelling, do, do stuff. It's like, listen to the words.

Listen to the words. Please. I feel like we're doing some real stuff in here. That guy got accepted into Harvard right there, okay? Everybody thinks the guy that just sharted his pants is dumb-dumb. He's not. He could run a lap around you if he had to. And damn near, that guy right there, he's one of the quickest minds to ever exist.

At one point in his life, too quick. Was getting too quick. They actually had to slow it down. They did. They had to slow it down. That one right there, one of the greatest sports gamblers to ever grace the television. And joining us on the stage Monday through Wednesday is a man who has a higher football IQ than you do. And I'm talking to anybody out there.

Ladies and gentlemen, nine-year NFL veteran, Darius J. Butler. And joining us, a 12-year NFL veteran. He has short arms, round belly. At the time when he was coming out of college at the Pennsylvania State University. He won a Remington. That didn't matter. He got drafted after I did. I got drafted late.

And I was a punter. Nobody thought I was getting drafted. It was a damn shame. Because what he was then is the same thing he is now. An absolute champion was getting drafted. It was a damn shame because what he was then is the same thing he is now. An absolute champion of a man. Now he's much thinner. He can run 10 miles

like he did yesterday. But he's a Super Bowl champion in offense alignment and also coach from the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, A.K. Shiffman. And dude, that's the one thing that whenever the situation occurs

that happened last night and obviously, once again, Jimmy Kimmel reacting the way that he reacted, completely understand, hey, listen, I would do the same. And I assume, which we will not last as long as Jimmy Kimmel has lasted in this entire thing, and obviously there was an entire

Rolodex of how long his career has been, and there's going to be things like this that happen, and I would hope that at some point I will defend myself in a manner that goes hey asshole I appreciate that being the lead yeah like I appreciated dear asshole for the record like I appreciated the way but I could also see why he would get there he's been famous for a long time there's been a lot of darts that have probably been thrown his way I hope he and Aaron

can handle it but like whenever that type of stuff is happening overnight i think to myself do we deserve to do the daily show every single day good question you know do we do we deserve to have i don't it's hard not to get like uh what's that called whenever you don't think you should imposter syndrome yeah i started thinking about that and then then i started reading what everybody was speaking about boy they call us, they call us dumb. They call us dumb, dumb, dumbs. They're calling us dumb, dumbs, though. The amount of times I was called dumb last night by people,

I was starting to think to myself, am I dumb? Hold on. Sorry, I didn't know exactly what the hell Aaron was talking about with most of the things he has a 500-page report on. But I don't – they just call us dumb. I don't think you're dumb, Darius. I don't think you're dumb at all. I don't think so. Well, the amount of teams you root for is dumb.

The Wachita thing, too. Oh, Wachita. F1 watches is stupid. Is my mic on? Yeah. It's pinnacle. I mean, I have a picture like this with a...

There's a picture of me like this with a bear. Is it a bear? A vanilla gorilla. So I could see why people might say that every once in a while, but I did have a 40 on my Wonderlic. 40 on the Wonderlic. Whoa! IQ.

I think Wonderlic is common sense. You think so? Common cue. Yeah, because I think Wonderlic is common sense. You think so? Common cue. Yeah, because I did well on it as well. I did not know I was taking it pretty hungover. I think I got like a 37 or 38 or something like that on it. Yeah.

But it's not like you've got to be intelligent for that one. That one's just like you have to be able to read. Quick. You've got to be quick. You have to be able to read. It's only 12 minutes. You have to be a confident person because you have to make your answer, and you have to have some, like, competence level of common sense i didn't finish the test did you finish

the test there's 50 questions no i think i got like 45 and i got 40 of them right yeah so i got like a 38 or 37 or 38 out of 40 it's 90 is what i got there was a couple long question ones that i just skipped right now you just got to keep moving don't even want to read them yeah but yeah i think people would say that maybe you're dumb because you lost so much weight and you're supposed to represent offensive linemen. Could be. With that. Yeah, you know what I mean?

They're saying we lost all our credibility with how small you got. I was reading that last night. A lot of those. I tweeted that. I tweeted that last night. Why are you against this? The enemy's always within. We didn't need you to start attacking.

There was enough people attacking. I'm sick of the skinny guy. I want the fat guy. He ran 10 miles yesterday. It's impressive. And I commend him for that, and I think it's cool that he's turning his life around in a positive way, but I want

it to turn the other way. I want it to go back down to fat, lazy, sweaty, dumb, whatever, I guess, I suppose. AQ. That's what I want. Well, anyways, we want to let everybody know we apologize for bringing drama into the world. Seems like every big event that happens we were

directly in the middle of it. Back dab in the center. And that's not on purpose. We'd like to let everybody know we apologize for bringing drama into the world seems like every big event that happens we were directly in the middle of it back dab in the center it's not on purpose would like to let everybody know when the story is told and we've been you know we film a lot of stuff behind the scenes and the documentary one day is going to be so stupid awesome well that's how you view it foxy yeah making it but every once in a Foxy, who has to store all the clips and the files of everything, will just send me a clip from like two or three years ago or whatever, and I'll just look at it, and the dumbest of all time. Everything we've been a part of. We're very lucky to do this.

We appreciate the fact that we get to do this every day. This will not be forever, obviously. Everybody's seen the track record. I have ADD massively. I do not have the stamina to be able to remain focused on something for a long time. I get bored and then I move on and then that'll end up killing me probably at some point.

I know that. It is a flaw, but it's been a hell of a run thus far. We appreciate that we get to do this in a moment. We love doing this right now. We wake up coming in here super jocked and super pumped because we get a lot of messages from people that say, we are a thing that helped them get through something like the amount of messages that come through people that are in the hospital or people that are at home bedridden or whatever

and people think our demo the people that don't know our show think our demo is like 13 14 year olds that is not our demo our demo is 18 to 49 that is our demo so we got a lot of people that understand have maturity been through it through it. Veterans from the military. It's like, those are the people that we are trying to reach. That is what we're trying to do for the world. And like, hopefully, we'll continue to be able to do that in mass abundance.

But also, every once in a while, with how we go about doing things, there's going to come. There's going to come the other side of that. Absolutely. It's life. And we've got to mute every account we can mute. Shout out to Elon for letting that happen. Mute every post that

is getting responded to 1,000, 1,500 times. Because 1,000 scrolls could be a lot. A couple hours work. That could become a bit abundant. Don't. You've got to click that when that many responses are there. You can't'm saying. You've got to click that when that many responses are there.

You can't just scroll. Yeah. You've got to click. Yeah, so anyways, we're going to continue to try to do that. We appreciate you all riding alongside of us. Hell yeah. Genuinely, genuinely. Now, let's talk a little bit about the sport of football.

More specifically, wide college football. We didn't give enough love to Pennix yesterday. That's your fault. That's your fault. We brought it up. We talked about it. At the very end, though. We talked about Michigan. I'm all in to Pennix yesterday. That's your fault. That's your fault. We brought it up. We talked about it. At the very end, though. We talked about Michigan.

I'm all in on Pennix. Okay. So we talked about Michigan for like 35 minutes. For good reason. We were at the Rose Bowl. We watched it. They kind of made me look like an idiot for everything that I've thought and said all year, not only on game day, but here thinking that the football gods inevitably are going to punish this team.

I think what the football gods have done is send us a message like, hey, they kind of got screwed. This team kind of got screwed. This team kind of got screwed. This is a tough football team. This is a gritty football. This is a clever football. This is a talented football. This is a deep football. It's like this team is a wagon, and we got to witness it up close and person.

And it's hard not to automatically just pay tribute to the things that you see live, and we didn't get to see the entire Sugar Bowl because we were traveling, although we did watch a couple recaps of it. And the recaps were interesting because the editor now is choosing what plays you need to see and what plays you don't need to see for both teams there. So it's not good when you can't watch an entire game to at least see the flow, so we apologize for that. But everything that I've seen from recap, highlights, and even lowlights,

and even post-game interviews, Michael Penix won the night. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Michael Penix won the evening. And obviously, a lot of people thought that maybe he was going to win the Heisman. I'm assuming his people and he thought he made a great case to win the Heisman in his last year of the Pac-12, winning the championship, going undefeated, having three guys at different

standpoints throughout the year who all average over 100 yards per game. Michael Penix has been an assassin. Has a very sweet, very sweet celebration. Has great moxie. Feels like everything he's about is what we love about football. So we apologize for not talking about him

as much yesterday, but he certainly warrants the conversation, A.Q. Shipley. I think he's an absolute stud. I watched that game, and I was like, man, this guy is fitting balls in places. I mean, there were some slant balls that he threw between two defenders that were so precise. I mean, he was awesome, and his deep balls were great.

Play action was great. He scrambles just enough to extend the play. I mean, he's a phenomenal football player. Darius, I know you're a massive Dolphins fan. Yep, Dolphins, lifetime. Fin fam. Fins up. The whole thing. Hell yeah, happy birthday. It. Darius, I know you're a massive Dolphins fan. Yep, Dolphin. Lifetime. Fin fam. Fins up. The whole thing.

Hell yeah. Happy birthday. It's coming up, I assume. The Tua comparison. Like it, hate it. He's a lefty. He's very accurate. Throws a beautiful ball.

I would argue, too, and Tua's not going to like this, and he might have a stronger arm than Tua as well. He's got the accuracy, seemingly, of Tua. Has a stronger arm than Tua as well. He's got the accuracy seemingly of Tua, has a stronger arm than Tua, seems to be taller than Tua. And once again, love Tua. This is not a – Leading the league in passing. Boom.

Love Tua. Love everything. Feels like Penix in the NFL also going to be a good fit. It feels like he has what you need, but he has to have that offense I think as well. He's been through a lot, and obviously he's got some great, great weapons out there with these receivers that he has. have that offense, I think, as well. He's been through a lot, and obviously he's got some great, great weapons out there with these receivers that he had, but his anticipation

is accuracy. He's obviously been through a lot. A leader. I love how he talks to the guys. I love how he talks after the game. He's an absolute... I would love him in the locker room, and every year we have that guy that just shoots up the draft boards, and I think this will be a guy... I know Caleb Williams is... Slott is the first guy. Drake May, they're

basically locked right now, one and two. Jaden Daniels. Jaden Daniels, he'll be sneaking up there. But I think Dan O said it yesterday, he'll probably be a top ten pick. I could probably see him sneaking up in that top six, seven, like the receivers and quarterbacks, I think, in this draft. Can you rewind to that last one at the end there? Obviously, the ball is amazing and the catch is phenomenal.

Does somebody – is that our mega cast on the sideline with the right pant leg rolled up? Hold on. I just saw a white in the back, I think. Pause. I think so. Colt McCoy, white shirt. Okay, so it was just a good... That's Colt Kubrick, Colt McCoy, Sam Macho, and who's...

Is that Kenny May? Yeah, I believe that's Kenny May. Is it Kenny May? That is Kenny May? Yeah, I believe that's Kenny May. Is it Kenny May? Yeah, I don't know. That is Kenny May. Good. Okay. I think so.

And then there's Harry Douglas. Shout out to the boys for doing that. They all reached out and said they enjoyed the hell out of it. It is so much fun to be able to do that game. But right in front of their face there, absolute dot. Yeah. Absolute dot from Michael Penix Jr. I think these teams are going to start looking at his film from the year.

And I don't know what, I think it's because he had two ACLs. I think a lot of people maybe thought Washington at some point was just going to, you know, kind of fall off. They never did. It was never really a chatter. Like, hey, Michael Penix is the guy next year. All he's done is win, lead. And you know his story about the two ACLs in modern medicine.

I hope they don't hold that against him. It's like, he's obviously very mentally tough. In their offense, he's got a – he's like – Checking. Check, scanning, progressing. It's like I feel like he is a Sunday guy if anybody is. I'd like to know who said we didn't give him his flowers yesterday. I said he should be the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers next year.

Yeah, that was hour three and a half, though. That's what they're saying. That was during the – Joining us now is a man who might have a better, you know, feel for why Michael Penix isn't necessarily considered just automatically in like the because they're saying like caleb drake all right and then like jayden daniels michael pennix and whoever else sneaks up in there maybe bono jj there's like yeah jj mccarthy especially with who knows how he's going to perform here. That dude, huh?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, they weren't at all. J.J. McCarthy, yeah. Oh, that's he fine. Now he's taking on Pennington, who's done the same exact thing. Joining us now, a former general manager in the NFL, a TED speaker, an author, a consultant, a consigliere. Ladies and gentlemen, Paisan Hall of Famer in all of our eyes. Football legend, Michael Lombardi. Happy New Year. Happy New Year.

Happy New Year to everybody. Hope all is well. I love watching the show. It's awesome. I loved it. Great year. Going to be a great season. Hey, Wamba, that felt great right there.

We've been hearing a lot of the other stuff over the last 12 hours or so. So I needed that from somebody that I have great respect for. We were just talking about Michael Penix and obviously the world got to see him in the Sugar Bowl. I think it was, how many million was it? 13, 14? Oh, 20. Yeah, 25. Rose Bowl was 27. I think it was

like 21, 22 for the Sugar Bowl. I think 24 million peak. So 24 million people at one point were watching him do his thing because he was doing his thing throughout the entire game obviously, but all year he's been doing this and their weapons have obviously been fantastic. Feels like he's an NFL

guy, like very much an NFL. How come he's not in the conversation at the very top alongside Caleb and Drake? Is it because of the ACLs or what is it? No, I think a lot of this early talk is never accurate, right? I think I think a lot of this early talk is never accurate, right? I think it's a lot of misinformation.

I think ultimately once the season's over – Not on this show. Not on this show. You know, I think this. When I watch that tape, when I watch that game, I immediately went back to that helmet behind me, the Raider helmet, where Al Davis would have just fell in love because his deep ball accuracy was not good, not rare. It was beyond rare. I mean, you couldn't have walked the ball to the receiver any better than he threw it. And he's done this. Remember when he was at

Indiana with the board, he was very good. And I think Washington has been misvalued in the market because, you know, they win a close game against Utah. They win a close game against Oregon State. Then another one against Washington State. Well, he had rib problems. He might have had broken ribs. We don't know. We don't get an injury report. But this kid is exceptional.

He plays a little stiff in his lower body, but it doesn't translate to the accuracy and the rhythm that he plays with. I mean, it was outstanding. If Al Davis saw him, he could be thinking about Cliff Branch running over routes to this guy. Like, here's how important that deep ball is. We talk about the Chiefs, right? It's hard to believe that Desmond Ritter of the Atlanta Falcons

has 18 passes completed over 20 yards, and Patrick Mahomes only has 15. Like, think about that for a minute, right? Like, that is – they're trying to get the ball down the field. They can't quite do it. It isn't because Mahomes only has 15. Like, think about that for a minute, right? Like, that is, they're trying to get the ball down the field. They can't quite do it. It isn't because Mahomes isn't accurate. It's just hard. When you have somebody that can make plays on the third level, that can hit that home run, all of a sudden,

you've got two three-play drives that are just remarkable. And that's a value that most NFL teams want. And you're visualizing watching him play. What offense would you play with him? I mean, I'd make sure I have really explosive receivers down the field because he could make the throws. Devontae Adams over there. Yeah.

I'm not saying that that isn't a perfect friend for a quarterback, but certainly feels like a perfect guy for Michael Penix, especially with all of the routes that he came around. You get a guy that can take the top off, which seemingly coming out of college, there's a lot of these guys these days. Oh, yeah. That are just like coming up through seven-on-sevens in high school,

and their contested catches and their route running and their hands are just better earlier than they have been in the past. It's like a couple quick things you've got to fix. Now you've got to be able to protect them, though, right? I mean, you've got to be able to. No question. Obviously, you've got to be able to protect them, though. Right? I mean, you've got to be able to. No question. Obviously, you've got to be able to protect them. Pat, Washington does a great job.

I mean, I don't know why DeBoer isn't being talked about as a potential NFL head coach. You know, I know there's the conversation out there at Jim Harbaugh. I get that. But DeBoer's been successful every place he's ever been. NIA, you know, when he went to Indiana, they were winning games. Then he goes to Fresno State, they win games. This guy's a really good football coach and he knows how to coach the quarterback, which I think is a huge value. Plus he runs a program. You know, this Washington, I don't think a lot of people in this generation know the history behind how great Washington's program is

and what a big time football school that has always been. And this guy's put it back on the map. So look, look you know i'm sure washington will do everything in their power but you have to give jennifer cohen the former woman athletic director there at washington for hiring him i mean that was a great hire great hire and he was great at fresno state he's been great everywhere he's been yeah he uh i got a chance to chat with him whenever we went and had game day over there he's been nothing but cool to us yeah weapon he's like anytime we've sent a request for him to come on the show he's like well i i have uh like he's actually other media calls he has moved to come on like he has been

very very cool to us oh indiana obviously ties before he goes up there but like yeah i like how cool he was like everything was just it was professional outfit, to your point about, like, NFL talk. The team operated that way. They all loved him. They all bought in. And when we went to game day over there, 6 a.m. local, that place was packed. You talk about it being a great school and a great program, and that had been lost for a little bit.

It's, like, huge. They love the football, the college football in Seattle. Might win an Addy. That would be absolutely, That would be insane. Now, if he does go to the NFL, he would hope to have a record for 17 or 18 straight years without a losing season. Now, this Pittsburgh Steelers moving kind of change here at the end of the season is a wild one.

I'm not sure we've seen anything like this in a long time. Pittsburgh hasn't fired an offensive coordinator or defense coordinator since when, Tone Diggs? 19-what? That was 40-something and it was the owner at the time who then fired himself. Yeah, because he was like Jackie Moon. He was doing that. He said, I need to get my hands off the wheel here. Somebody

else can drive me around. So it never happens for the Steelers to make a big move. And then let alone a quarterback and then the offense and everything, they're starting to, hey, don't look now. The Pittsburgh Steelers are a wagon. NFL Films released the footage of Mike Tomlin at the end of the game talking to not only the offense coordinator but his players. And this is probably a good reason why this man has never lost

in his NFL coaching experience. Hey, Sully, I don't want to get conservative, man. They've been pounding that run. Rhythm pass, play to win. Ah, damn it, GP. Just get ready to make another damn play. Get us out of here. Talk to two.

We ain't going to get conservative and scared. Rhythm pass, play to win. At the two-minute warning, wants to throw it. And he does, and Pickens has it. First down, 30, throwing the ball. Where you probably put $150,000 that they'd run it. Routinely. I can't believe he threw the ball there. That Yinser.

Bill Hillgrove. Bill Hillgrove on the call. Been a Pittsburgh voice for a long, long time. Why do you think the Steelers team has had such a big change? And what does that clip tell you about how Tomlin's viewing maybe this offense versus other offenses in the past for him? Well, let's start with Tomlin. I think he's watching the game, right?

So he sees Seattle. He knows that they potentially could get back in the game. He's managing the game not based on a chart, not based on analytics, based on what he sees, which I think is really important. You've got to watch the game. You've got to understand the flow of the game. He got it, you know, and he knew that his offense could win that game. And I think that's something that we miss at times, especially in the light of, you know, where Dan Campbell decides on, you know, to go for a field goal. He's got six more

possessions to go. He loses the game by one point. I know that all the controversy around the call but yeah everybody loves the aggressiveness but you had six more possessions take the points last time I checked football we keep score and we play the game how it's going not how we think it should on a sheet and I think the fact is look the reason they're winning is because they're making plays in a passing game they're throwing the ball up the field. Rudolph has given them some hope. They've had these receivers, but they're able to make explosive plays. You can't go in the NFL three yards, three yards, five yards, six yards, ten. You've got to make an explosive play.

This just goes right back to Michael Penix. I mean, this is what makes him such an attractive candidate because, you know, he might be 20 for 40 in completions, but he's going to make 20 big time throws. We get so caught up, well, he's a 70% completion thrower. What does that mean if they're throwing for five yards of pass, right? You know, look at Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy's averaging almost 10 yards per attempt. That's what you have to have to win in the National Football League. When you're in that 7-0 category, you're not beating any team like that, not on a consistent basis. And I think that's really

what Tomlin saw in that game. He knew it. The modern NFL has so many more explosives than old school NFL used to have. They used to say, we need to take at least one shot a quarter. One shot a quarter. And some people wouldn't even do that. Now it's like you've got to open it up because

if you open it up, it lightens the box a little bit. Now everything else that we've got running RPO-wise and option-wise and kind of drag routes behind the linebacks, that's all happening. Now they're more efficient than ever, but the deep ball is just a common thing. Just like trick plays are, kind of. I think Tomlin's just so much more confident

and maybe trusts Mason more than the quarterbacks they had the rest of the year. Who's that? Mitch, for one, for sure, and also Kenny. Maserati? Because, I mean, you were there, Colts game. I believe Tomlin down, I think they were down seven, and they punted from the plus 38 on a fourth and short.

First drive of the game against Seahawks, fourth and five, he went for it. This one, he throws for it with two minutes left. I think he's just much more confident in the quarterback position. I wonder how much more say he has in the offense first whenever Canada was there maybe. Because whenever you move on, especially how long was Canada there? Three years? Yes.

Three years. So there's like habits that build over those three years and maybe schedule and conversations and how it goes week in, week out. So whenever you get a new offense coordinator, I wonder how much more Tomlin is involved with them potentially. Go ahead, Lomba. I think he's always been involved in the big picture, managing the day-to-day, what's going on in the game,

how are we going to win this game specifically. And I think that's what he does a tremendous job of. How do we have to play it? It might be ugly. We might have to run it. I've got to manage Mitch Strabisky. Look, we don't have to look any further than Joe Flacco, right? Deshaun Watson, when he was playing, averaged 28.5 passes per game. Flacco comes off the couch, off the couch, and Stefanski's calling 42 and a half passes a game, and they haven't really been behind other

than the Ram game. And that was a close game going into the fourth quarter. So the point is, is Stefanski saying, I can throw the ball. Now, we understand Flacco turns it over at a higher rate, but Flacco makes explosive plays, and all of a sudden, the Browns' offense looks way different because he can complete passes on the third level. This is something that you can't ignore. This is what makes Penix really an attractive candidate because

he can complete those i'm not saying he can't complete the underneath stuff either we get it but when you can when you have a when you have a guy that can throw it up the field over routes you know inside deep cuts all of a sudden chunk plays i mean nothing drives me crazier pat then i'll start a two-minute drive and you throw the check down like you're better off with an incompletion than you are with a check down. You need yards. Yeah. Like this throw.

I mean, could you have just walked it out there any better? And it's a soft throw. It's a soft throw. Yeah. Like Boomer Esiason, when he played in Cincinnati, he had a lot of these similar skills,

but Boomer threw a hard ball. Now Boomer would, Boomer would cut the receiver's fingers because his ball was tough. He was throwing fastballs. This kid, this ball's soft. It lands perfectly. He throws a beautiful ball. He's mature. He's played a lot of football,

which is another thing that a lot of people think about whenever they're going into the NFL. Excited to see him. You brought up Flacco there. He's been so much fun to watch. He also says water. I don't know if you know that. He's a water speaker. I'm a water Flacco there. He's been so much fun to watch. And he also says water. I don't know if you know that. He's a water speaker. I'm a water guy, too.

Yeah, that's what I was about to say. He's from New Jersey. It's all part of our dialogue. I think he's Comeback Player of the Year. I said it after the – and anybody listening to the pod, I said it after the Rams game. I mean, this guy's coming back from 2018. Look, I mean, DeMar Hamlin, you know, understanding that. We're very proud of him. Way to go, DeMar. I get that. I mean, you coming back from 2018. Look, I mean, DeMar Hamlet, understanding that. We're very proud of him. Way to go, DeMar.

I get that. I mean, you come back from death. You deserve an award. I get that, right? But Flacco's coming back from 2018. And the other guy on this list that I don't think gets enough love. He traveled in time. This guy comes back later in the year.

He traveled in time. I mean, we've had two fashion changes since Flacco played good you know I mean things have been in and out of style since he played well I'll tell you the other guy Stafford like this guy's playing at a high I know Martindale mentioned that he should be in the MVP I think the guy since he's come back off the injury unbelievable the way he's been able to play and when they have that running game going man they're Yeah, the Rams are tough. A lot of teams are peaking right now, including those two guys' teams coming into the playoff run. Last question for me before the boys have it there.

There's no playoff run for this team, but there is a lot of awesome stuff happening. David Tepper is awesome. We need a microphone on him. We need a camera on him. And we know the story, obviously, of him buying somebody that he didn't like in the past who was one of the people above him at the company.

Then he obviously goes and makes his own money, buys. This guy never gave him a raise or a promotion. Buys this guy's house, tears it down completely, builds a bigger, badder, better house. We know that he's maybe a little petty. We know that he maybe has a little bit of spike. We know that he likes to say things and tell people how to do their jobs, even though he hired them to do their jobs. He's fired like four soccer coaches down there in Charlotte FC.

He's fired, if you count the interim coaches and not retaining them, letting them go, like five coaches in the Carolina Panthers in like a matter of like six, seven years now. This is a guy who he wants it all when? Now. He also doesn't want to hear any of these fans' shit. You know what I mean? Down in Jacksonville, somebody was chirping him all game.

And on his way out, he said, you know what? How about this? Who? Ice. Backwash. I'm out of here. I'm going to go get on a helicopter, and I'm going to fly out of this godforsaken town, is what he said pretty much.

He gets slapped with a $300,000 fine, and then a message says that, you know, every executive in the NFL is expected to act with a level of class and respect and all of that, obviously. We see that. We laugh. We think to ourselves, it's a shame that fan that got hit with that ice ended up with a broken neck, broken back, broken legs. And we hope Tepper will make it right with them, obviously.

Hundreds of millions of dollars in lost earnings, potential in the future for the ice in the eye, for that one person that was going to be a professional sniper. Remember that? So there's a lot of things that are going to happen. These are jokes, by the way. Jeez. Just kidding.

Just kidding. We're just joking. Just kidding. Just kidding. We're just joking. Just kidding, Tepper. But when you see that and then you see the history of him firing head coaches, who's going to go? Like, it's just going to have to be a big paycheck. That's why. Or somebody that's not going to have a lot of head coaching options.

Like, who wants to go work for that? If that's what's happening publicly after they lose, and then we hear about these Monday, what's happening? Who's going to want to go work for that guy,bo how do you think that all fans out oh i think it's a fair question i'm sure the league office is having conversations with them about that as well look i i think he's frustrated i think he talks to way too many people one of the things i think he needs to do is lose his cell phone he's one of these classic owners that calls people in the media, calls, he's looking for all this advice. And at the end of the day, really he's looking for somebody to

reaffirm what he thinks. And he needs somebody to shoot him straight. Like he needs somebody to look him in the eye and say, look, you've built this billion dollar hedge fund. You've got homes all over the world. You did it because you had a plan. You had a system in place. You had a process and you thought and made decisions correctly. You're acting as if it's going to happen overnight. I mean, you're out there digging up the crop before the roots even settle down. You've got to get somebody who's got enough guts to stand in front of them and say, hey, David, I know you made billions over here, but the only way you're going to win in this league with 31 competitive people is by having a plan, by having a system in place, by building a team that is to your –

you can't skip any steps here. There's no – you know, Belichick used to tell the team all the time, you know, there's no magic pill we're going to take to lose 20 pounds. Like, you've got to put the work in. You're going to have to put the work in. Bill, there is something. You know? So, and, you know, so I think to me that's what he needs i think he needs

somebody who's got enough guts to look him in the eye and say hey david you want to either do this right and use your money to a resource or you want to continue to be compared to dan snyder you decide some of those guys and girls at that level there they want an alpha to come in you know and be like i ain't taking your shit like that is how this is gonna go and that could potentially be what he's been waiting for in the nfl you know like i don't know if frank reich ever gave him the impression that frank reich was gonna go in there and tell him you need to stop telling me what to do matt rule maybe though right yeah like matt rule first time in the NFL though, it's like

is he, you know, so if he gets a Harbaugh, if he's able to pay enough, and Harbaugh I don't think would be ever scared to say, yeah, this ain't how this goes, both privately and publicly because he's been there, he's done that before. Sean Payton, you know, he was like that I guess with Denver where he came in, he was very public

about it. He needs somebody like that, right? That is somebody he needs? Yeah, you do. But, you know, Sean Payton interviewed in Carolina. That wasn't what he wanted. You know, Sean didn't even come back for a second interview. So, you gotta have the climate has to be right. I mean, David's at the point now where he's

gotta buy credibility. I mean, he's got a stadium situation that's not right. He's got a practice facility he was gonna build in South Carolina that didn't work out. out i mean his credibility with his own fan base is dwindling and his behavior is causing this and he's too smart of a human being you don't make billions of dollars in one area and all of a sudden become stupid in another but what he's doing is he's trying to rush it he has no plan and i and i think ultimately, you know, he can learn from Eddie DeBarlo, who was an emotional owner, who, you know, when we lost, it was hard. But he also took a step back

and he gave Bill Walsh the authority to run his team and said, OK, I tried it the other way. It doesn't work. I'm going to do it this way. Now he's in the Hall of Fame and with all his Super Bowl rings. And so I think there's past performance for Tepper should predict future achievement, and he needs to study that. Like he needs somebody to say that, hey, David, you're going to do this? You know, this is the dumbest thing we could possibly ever do. And if you do it, you know, you're going to be in trouble. But you've got to have somebody who has guts to do it, right?

And accomplished. You've got to have somebody that's accomplished, too. That's not going to be a type of confidence that's coming from somebody that hasn't accomplished anything as a head coach, though, too, I think. No, that's why if he hires a young assistant coach who's never been a head coach before, it's going to be impossible. It's going to be hard. It's going to be all of a sudden he's going to be on the phone.

I mean, he's going to be on the phone talking to this person, talking to that person. Like, they need to cut off all cell service in that area. Maybe they just need to throw some water on it. Yeah, there you go. Moving ahead with more topics, D-Bud has a question for you, Lambeau. Hey, Lambeau, I'm going to put you in a chair.

You are the GM. I'm sure this will be, you know, obviously the conversation of the NFL going into April with the Chicago Bears sitting there with that number one pick. But where are you at with Justin Fields? I know he's had a really good season. Obviously, you got Joe Ault there in the draft. You got some great receivers as well at the top of that draft.

Do you go and get a quarterback and flip it, reset that quarterback market, or do you stick with Justin Fields, build around him? What are you doing in that chair? Hey, he's number one Justin Fields hater, by the way. Sweet shack, by the way. No, that's not true. I was trying to temper some people who were trying to give him the MVP. Oh, got to be good before great.

Smart, smart. Can the kid get good before he gets great? Do we have to give him the MVP in August? I mean, seriously. Look, I think he has trouble throwing the football on a consistent basis. But let me answer the question. All right, to me, the question's getting framed the wrong way. The question should be framed,

are we going to pay Justin Fields $40 million to $50 million per year on a four-year deal? Is that what you plan to do? Are we valuing him there? If the Bears feel that's the right answer, then they're going to make other picks. If the Bears say, you can't do that, that'll mess up our cap, it'll really hurt us in trying to manage and build the team around them, then they've got to go to Fields and say, look, here's our deal. Here's where we can go. We'll keep you at this number. We're not going to pay you that number. If he doesn't want that, then you hold on to him.

You make your draft. You select a quarterback. And you listen to people out there. And you don't have to jump on the first deal. You can bring Fields back, rest the number one pick in the draft, let him develop, play Fields for another year, and when the time's right, make the move. No one has to rush you into a decision. No one has to pressure you. But the real question is, the real question that Bears fans don't want to answer is, are you paying them $40 to $50 million? Daniel Jones got $40 million, right?

This market for quarterbacks, it isn't that where are we going to find one. It's are we going to pay the second contract. No one's asking that question. Are you paying the second contract for Mac Jones? No, that's easy. Are you paying the second contract for Trey Lance? No, that's easy. Are you paying it for Trevor Lawrence?

There comes a problem. Are we? We've got no choice. We have to. Is it the right thing to do? You get into that, we have no choice. That's where the Giants were. We have no choice. We have to okay is it the right thing to do right you get into that we have no choice that's where the giants were we have no choice we have to pay daniel when you have no choice you really make a bad decision so you with this opportunity that the bears have it really sets them up where

if they're smart and they're deliberate they can make a great decision so i you also can add in there and you said the giants felt like they had no options no choice everybody had Joe Flacco sitting at home and then you think about what happened with Tom Brady and what has happened with other like fourth contracts or do we want to maybe go find like a fourth contract player who still got it a little bit who might only cost what 20 million 20 million if they do what like Flacco probably what next year he's going to sign a two-year deal, probably $40 to $45 million? I don't know because Flacco, if you study Flacco's career, he's really good in that Stefanski, really it's Gary Kubiak system. God bless Gary Kubiak.

It's his system. And he was really good in that when the Ravens played with him in 14. Flacco was very good. But then when he lost that, he lost that ability. I don't know how the Browns don't bring Flacco back. I know they got Deshaun at $65 million for the next three years, but he's the best player for their offense

right now. Flacco knows that. Flacco knows this is the best way for me to make money. How many other ones are those around here? That's the next question then. How many other locations? Who would fit that That's like the next question then. How many other locations are there? Who would fit that scheme?

I think to me, well, we know Shanahan runs that scheme. It's the Kubiak, Mike Shanahan. We know that Houston runs that scheme, but they run it and they understand it. It's one thing to steal the plays. It's another thing to understand the scheme. Everybody steals the plays. Everybody stole Kubiak's throwback to the tight end on the over route that's become so popular or the delay route

but it's do you understand the offense and how you coach the quarterback too, let's not minimize that, it's how the relationship is between the coach and the quarterback I'm excited to see what happens with Joey Flacco what a run, what a story Paisan from New Jersey, obviously you're

in love. And to echo D-Butt's point, you do look super cool. Oh, yeah. Super cool. Great fit. Super cool today. Connor has a question for you, Lambeau. Yeah, Lambeau, speaking of the Bears at the top of the draft there,

and obviously trades might happen if the Bears do decide to keep fields. They might trade out. Cardinals might trade out. Who knows what happens. But in a draft like this where there's so much talent the quarterbacks marvin harrison jr joe alt they're talking about and from what we've looked into it does seem as though joe alt will be a 20-year first ballot hall of famer give him the gold jacket now but when you have that type of talent from a gm's perspective is it almost difficult being at the top of those drafts

because you have to be the one that makes a decision on a certain guy whereas maybe you know the fourth or fifth pick is you know the true best player of that draft is that difficult and then with New England specifically you just mentioned it Mac Jones not getting a second contract do you think it's automatic definitely happening that they're taking QB? Or do you believe that they are much more in the camp of best available? Like if you can get a Marvin Harrison or a Joe Alt or, you know, the Penn State tackle or, you know, they're talking about a Dunzay now from Washington.

One of those guys, do you think they sit in that camp or they're in the, hey, we're taking one of Caleb Drake, Pennix now, and Danis. I love Joe Walt. I would have told you that two weeks ago, if the Patriots took Joe Walt, that I probably would burn everything that I own because of how mad I would be.

And then looking into Joe Walt, it's, okay, yeah, if we can get Trent Williams at the top of the draft, we're going gonna do that yeah right i mean look if you you have watched every patriot game yeah and there's a lot of things wrong with the patriots the kicking situation you know their turnovers but at the end of the day they don't have a quarterback and if you don't get a quarterback at some quarterback that you feel like you can operate and win with? The original question starts off with, it's called the line of demarcation, right? There's always a draft where there's a lot of good players

and there's a lot of media hype around those good players. But as an executive, you've got to figure out really where does the pro bowl player end and where does really the good starter begin, right? And that's kind of where you you that's what you get paid to you get paid to evaluate great over what's really good and i think that's the question and you have to formulate that from would we pay this guy a second contract right is this guy worthy of a second contract and so you because that's going to cost you a lot of money and so it's an investment that you have to make and i think the quarterback position with so many of these teams that need them,

they have to do that. There's just no choice. And the problem with the league is there's not enough guys who have developed a system of offense or have the guts to say, okay, we're going to not pay this guy the money, and we've got a young quarterback that we're going to play. I mean, that's what Andy Reid did. You know, he trades for Alex Smith, he paid him, and he drafts Mahomes. Now remember, Mahomes is the 10th pick overall in the draft, right? No, no. Remember, Trubisky got drafted higher. Yep. I'm fully aware of that. I'm

fully aware of that. And then Lamar sat there in the green room until he was 32. I mean, and I was fully aware of that too. So like, to me, don't assume that everybody's going to make the right pick that's the other thing that's why people think the nba nfl tanks like the nfl no no the nfl's no one's tanking this weekend remember last year in in indianapolis houston came in and won everybody said oh my god lovey smith ruined the texans they got a good quarterback they didn't ruin anything they won there's no tanking because you can't figure out who's going to pick who where yeah the percentages of success in like the first round are nowhere near as high as everybody seems to think they are especially going into the nfl draft which is why we created the nfl draft spectacular because one of the first times that we were covering it every single day

during a draft process it was like people are making this absurd the pressure that is put now granted they're getting big contracts before proving anything in the nfl amongst adults who are not only their generation's all-stars but also the generation before that's greatest players the generations before that's greatest players oh the greatest guys from uh miami four generations still playing in the NFL. There's not a lot of spots. But the conversations about these guys, and I did it earlier. I'm a part of the problem. I'm like, Michael Penix, a lot of Tua.

A lot of Tua. And it's like, I love Tua as a football player, especially in that McDaniels offense down there. It's like the perfect fit. But like, Penix has the accuracy. He's a lefty, so it's natural to kind of draw the correlation. And then he has a stronger arm. So it's like hard not to do that.

But then you start looking at who made it, who didn't. And obviously people talk about the biggest bust and everything. There's a lot of those. And I think the reason why we all feel that way is because we've all been in locker rooms and we've seen the guy that's supposed to come in and change everything. Now that person took one of my friend's jobs okay so i had great times that guy you're coming in you're supposed to change everything and you suck okay and then that just

starts happening on like a regular basis it's like this draft is a crap shoot it's an absolute crap show many variables how do you know you know what i mean like how do you know i mean so many it really comes down to it really comes down to the kid. I mean, can he relate to the players? Can he get along? Is he coachable? I mean, why is Brock Purdy so good? Brock Purdy's coachable.

You know, he's humble. He comes in. You know, Tom Brady was a sixth-round pick, humble, worked as an overachiever. You know, Al Davis used to never allow press conferences for rookies. He didn't want the rookie to beat the media. He didn't want any prior expectations put on the rookies because all we do is hype them up, and then you have to spend half your month of June and July

de-recruiting them. They've been told how great they are, and now all of a sudden you've got to de-recruit them. And with the quarterback, that guy's got to be the hardest-working guy on the team. He's got to be the leader of the team. He's got to be the guy who's going to drive everybody after you win a big game is hungry to win the hardest working guy on the team. He's got to be the leader of the team. He's got to be the guy who's going to drive everybody after you win a big game, is

hungry to win the next game. Those are hard guys to find. A.Q. Shipley just held up a dry erase board that said measurables aren't everything. They can't measure your heart, can they? They can measure your short little arms and your big old gut, but they couldn't measure that heart, could

they, A.Q.? I'm telling you, more and more, we overanalyze. We look into all the numbers. Instead of just watching the film, can the guy play football? Can he relate to the guys? Is he good in the locker room? Those things aren't measured, and those things, they play a large role. I will wonder how easy it is for guys to relate to a locker room as these NIL deals continue.

Yeah, sure. What? Paisan, what do you think? I mean, I think it's really hard. I mean, you're talking about spoiled. You know, we're spoiling them. I mean, I think they deserve it. There's no question.

I agree. I'm not saying they shouldn't get paid. They get spoiled. And then here's the hardest part, what we're dealing with today, is nobody wants confrontation. Nobody wants to be told that this isn't going to work. You know, nobody's, you know, like, this isn't going to work. You know, nobody's, you know, like this isn't going to happen. Like you've got to be able to hold people accountable.

Like accountability is the cornerstone of any championship team. It's the cornerstone. You can't win a title in any sport without accountability. And so you have to have accountability. And some of these guys have never been held accountable. Everything's an excuse. Well, we've got to do this and this doesn't work. No, no. You've got to make the play when you make the play. You're accountable for your play. And once you become accountable, your teammates like you because they're getting held accountable, right? That's why when you would go in the Patriot room and Brady's sitting in the front row all the way to the right and he threw a bad pass because of Brady's greatness in terms of being willing to be a coach.

Belichick would say, hey, this isn't good enough. And people in the room would say, wait a minute, he's yelling at Brady. He's going to come after me too. That's championship football. Hell yeah. It would be the first practice of training camp too. It's almost every age. If we had a quarterback that could hit a wide open tight end,

I think we'll win a few games we'll be all right this year but yeah it starts with the coaches and i talked to a lot of the players now and some coaches as well a lot of these coaches are like scared you know scared the whole players kind of because it's a completely different dynamic than it is in college you know why they're scared why is that you know why they're scared they're scared because they that because the head coaching jobs that are paying $9, $10, $12 million a year are elected positions. They're not selected. So if you have a bad rep on it, you hold a good player accountable and he doesn't like you and the word gets out that you're not

friendly to the player, all of a sudden you're not getting one of those electable positions. You're not going to carry the Southern primaries and win the election. That's what's happening. Everybody just wants to placate everybody, right? Everybody just wants, oh, we're doing good. You know, everything's good. I mean, think about this. Robert Sala's got 50 games as a Jet NFL coach, 50. Eric Mangini only had 48.

He's got a 33% winning percentage, but everything's going to be fine because when Aaron comes back, Aaron's got that magic wand and everything's going to be fine. You've got to have accountability. We'll see. We'll see. The accountability is the cornerstone

of any championship team. It's quite a bar right there because it's very, very real. The thought, though, that all these head coaches are just elected instead of selected, you've been saying that for a long time, even in the NFL. If you win the mob, you win Rome, pal. They've been saying that for a long time, even in the NFL. You got to have a good – if you win the mob, you win Rome, pal. They've been saying that forever.

I mean, you can see the momentum building. You can feel it. The narrative's out there, right? And nobody – and once the narrative gets out there, nothing can change. You're like, nothing's going to change the narrative, even though it's right in front of our eyes, you know? And so nobody's going to dig past the first chapter. Hey, before we let you go, we know you got shit to do,

like a show, like four minutes. Two picks for this weekend. You got any? Oh, man, this is the hardest weekend of all time. I like the Bears. I think they're going to give the Packers a lot of trouble this week. I think that's going to be one. I'm really torn between the Texans and the Colts.

I watched the Colts play defense last week It drives me crazy How many easy throws are they going to give up? How many easy throws are they going to give up? They knew They made them look like Peyton Manning Won the game I'll take the Texans

Those would be my picks You son of a bitch Tell Gus Bradley to play some God darn man-to-man and stop playing palms, okay? Young corners out there. Young corners out there. I don't care. Everybody take your final blitzes, bud. Hey, look, I'm going to tell you something.

You know what I'm waiting for Gus Bradley after the game? Oh, boy. He would have been in trouble without Dave. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Dombard. Oh, boy. A lot of Texans coming in a lot, huh? Yeah. Uh-oh.

That's a coin flip. No, it's not. For some people. It's the lot-house. It's Gardner Minshew. Playoffs. That kid's so good. He is so good.

I said earlier today, you guys would be in a lot better spot if Gardner threw three picks last week. Because he's a bounce-back guy. He's not a let's have a lot of good games in a row guy. He's a big game guy. Yeah, he's a big game guy. He's not a let's have a lot of good games in a row guy. He's a big game guy. Yeah, he's a big game guy. I win the AFC South. We're not winning a lot of games. We're hanging a banner.

No, he's not in a row. You don't think you have to do that to win a banner in the AFC South? It's a buzzsaw down there. I think they're about 500, so probably. Last primetime game. What'd they do? One by 1,000. And how loud was that ass?

So loud. That's what they do at the Loud House. That's what's going to happen Saturday. We weren't able to make it to the game on Sunday because we found out on Wednesday that there was a show on Saturday in California. I don't know. Saw a couple people make some messages about the suite being empty. Oh, is that right?

Wasn't it? Why don't you give it away? It's like, we found out a day or two days before we weren't going to be able to go to the damn game. And also, Mitt was with his whole family. Yeah. Dad coaches for the Raiders. You can't have randoms pooping all over the suite.

Well, listen, I will do that at some point, obviously, but talk at the Loud House shirt. Yeah. We had people in there living their best life. Football. This is beautiful. Yeah. Football is an amazing thing. Football! This is beautiful. Yeah! Football is an amazing thing. Football is what gathered us here today.

Hell yeah. Now, since then, we've had the opportunity to chit-chat about it, and it is about to get phenomenal. For the next few weeks, there is about to be football played at the highest level with the highest implications on the line. We're not just talking about a score on a scoreboard. We're talking about forever legacies. We're talking about dynasties potentially falling or maybe the beginning of one being found.

Ladies and gentlemen, we are in the greatest time for football that you could possibly be in, and we're lucky to be here. The Toxic Table is here as well. At Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, Jordan Love, 16 touchdowns, one interception. Since when? Since, I think, week 11. So, I mean, yeah, he's been playing pretty good.

But, again, it's one of those things. Lambeau mentioned it. I'm kind of in that same camp. I am a little bit worried about the Bears game this weekend. That's good. You're supposed to be worried. You earned the worry. I think so.

I think so. But, you know, last time he played the Bears, week one, completely different team. I get it, but he took a big old shit all over that defense. We'll see. At home, too. It's kind of... Absolutely. It's different defense now.

Absolutely. Absolutely a different defense, but also this Packers team is much different than they were in week one as well. Some of these young guys have kind of etched themselves in stone as being pretty good players. What's on the line there? Playoff. Playoff berth. Hey, you win and you're in.

Now, you didn't make the playoffs last year. Exactly. Transition year, make the playoffs potentially. There was people that were wondering. Myself, loudest. Goodkins is pushing everybody out of the building. He's building the team in his image. In his eyes. in his opinions. And here we are, less than two years, already in the playoffs potentially.

Good for the Pack. Unreal. Not easy at all. I didn't draw it up. And I think that's what's so kind of rewarding and awesome. I mean, it basically is Jordan Love. The defense hasn't been great. They've had their moments this year.

But if he wasn't doing what he's doing right now, the Packers would be like a five or six win football team but because he's been playing so well like he is the one who has put them in position to to make the playoff playoff implications on the line there in that particular game there's a lot of others that have that as well joining us one half of the hammer down cowboys tone digs are we trying to find these games as implications then we're just hammering whoever needs to win? Yeah, basically, this is bowl season continued. You're looking for motivation here. It was just announced

Patrick Mahomes is not playing this weekend. Blaine Gabbert gets a start. So maybe stay away from that one. Stefanski just announced they're going to use this opportunity to wrestle from the guys against the Bengals, so maybe stay away from that one. But you always look at it like the Jags are playing against the Titans this weekend.

Jags winning their in. Okay, let's automatically bet the Jags. It's not exactly how it works. There was a stat. I can't remember who it came out from. But when the line moves in your directions like it has for the Jags, people are betting on the Jags to win this weekend because they have to.

Teams are only 44% winners in that situation. So it's not always, like it happened last year with the Packers. You went in, they're in. Nope, Lions beat them on Sunday Night Football. It happens all the time. We had 11 different graphics made with implications for these games this weekend. A lot of people could still win their division.

A lot of people can be the number, like, high seed. And also, at the same time, not even make it. The NFL script writers have the most amount of characters left at this particular time of the season that most shows have ever been capable to do. It's a massive weekend. Gambling on it is going to be a nightmare. Absolute

nightmare. 12-year NFL vet Super Bowl champion, also coach. Half of himself, but still full in spirit. Ladies and gentlemen, A.K. Shepard. Thank you. Thank you. All the legs after a 10-mile run yesterday.

I'm actually surprisingly feeling a lot better than I thought I was going to feel. Man, you're becoming super good. But I will say this. The minute that run ended, I was right at my front door. I was doing a lot of waddling for a good 20 minutes. Well, you chafed the quads? No, right above. Those little VMOs right above the kneecaps. Oh, the little teardrops. Yeah, they were locking up. What'd you get? A cold tub? Did you get a cold tub? I, right above. Those little VMOs right above the kneecaps. Oh, the little teardrops.

Yeah, they were locking up. What'd you get, a cold tub? Did you get a cold tub? I jumped right in the pool. Pool's about 45, 50 right now. Degree. You have a pool-sized cold tub? Well, my actual pool is not heated.

It's cold out there in Arizona. Really? It's like 45, 50 degrees, yeah. Hell yeah. Smart. That felt great. That's awesome. Perfect. It's cold at night out there. You need to do that. It's like 45, 50 degrees, yeah. Hell yeah. Smart. That's awesome. Perfect.

It's cold at night out there. You need to do that. It's the desert. Yeah, so I just learned that I can have a pool-sized cold tub. Yeah. That's how it works? Basically. You're dumping ice in that thing in the middle of the desert?

No ice. It gets down to 35, 40 at night. Yeah, but in the middle of the day, it's 160 degrees. That's a desert. I've read about it. It's too big. It doesn't heat back up enough. The pool evaporates? It's like the Lake Michigan

effect up there where it's cold even though it's the middle of summer because it's still cold from winter or whatever. Bingo. We got to drain ours because it'll freeze. Oh yeah, we got ice here. Good point. You moved away from that. You know why? Smart. Soft. Woke up this morning when Diggs

picked me up. I was like, this is terrible. Oh, did you take that vitamin D off your face and then walk out there? Yeah. He does it the whole car ride, actually. I'm not allowed to talk to him. So he's sitting shotgun. He's got his lotion that he just, that's the only thing you brought. What'd I do with it?

Of course. What'd I do with that lotion? Packed it. That's the only thing you packed. Packed it into your hand. Can't door dash enough lotion for him to bop the hell out of himself all night. And he's got that vitamin D thing. Not a lot of talk to him.

It's great to see you every week, dude. You've had a great year. Thank you. Great to be with you. I don't know how that thing survives down there. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is joining us. Hell of a year out of you, D-Butt. Let's go.

Great Rose Bowl call. Big games. Big incentives, too, for some players. Oh, yeah. We got a graphic about all the incentives. We'll get to that probably the third hour because there's money, big money. $1.5 million potentially being earned. I had a $250,000 bonus in my contract, and I certainly knew it,

and I was certainly attempting to get it, as is everybody else that has elevators, they started calling it, as opposed to incentives or escalators. Yeah, like you used to beators. Is that an incentive? No, escalators, yeah. Okay. Are we speaking the same? It's the same thing. And it is great whenever you hit it. I've always hit mine because you put a little

carrot in front of the horse, it's going to run a little bit. What were yours? Averages? Pro Bowl. My first contract was averages, both gross and net and inside the 20. And then the last year of my contract, Bill Pauley wanted me to hit 5-0 punts, 40 yards. But in the contract, we needed to gross at least 44, 45.

So I said, Bill, you literally put a million-dollar bonus in my contract to average 45 yards. Yeah, but your next contract, if you hit this thing 5'1", 40 yards, we're fair catching every time. I'm like, I also have the shortest average in the NFL. By a lot. My career probably not going to lie. Yeah, but that's what we need right now. I'm like, okay, Bill.

All right. Thanks, Bill. Thanks, Bill. I'm going to punt it straight up in the sky. It's kind of what J.K. Scott does. Yeah. Thanks Bill Thanks Bill I'm gonna punt it Straight up in the sky It's kind of what J.K. Scott does Yeah J.K. Scott does that He's been a much better Doer of that

Than I ever was I'm not flexible I can't even touch my toes His head is Yeah his foot Is right next to his head Every single time Yeah

Fins up I'm like you know what Bill Hey it was a black dude Who used to kick for I can't think of his name right now Reggie Who? What's his last name?

Roby Reggie Roby Waterloo Isle Native His foot. Time X watch on at all times. Yeah, because he wanted to time his own hang time. Beast.

Rest in peace. Love that. It's going to be tough. I don't know how he held the ball. You know, because how do you start the... Talented guy. So as soon as he punted, he was just looking at the stopwatch. Glancing.

I could never do that either. Reggie Roby. Dog. Absolute dog. Ray Guy has those pictures, too, of his. Yeah. Basically, every punter that has ever been in the NFL is able to get their legs up next to their face.

I would rip every muscle in my leg if I was to do that. So that's why Bill Pullian's technique was impossible for me. But instead, I started throwing darts at his sideline. But those escalators, everybody knows about, and everybody's trying to get. How about player performance, too? Player performance is great. I always had playtime incentives, too, which was awesome.

And mine were always 50, 75, and 80. So by about week 13, you knew you could cash in as long as you stayed healthy. Yeah, and also you go into week 16, you're kind of on a borderline of one of them and you're in the other one. The teams know. Oh, they know. Yeah, the teams know. Sounds like the Patriots know.

Oh! They know when to stop a guy from playing because he's a cancer in the locker room. Did you guys have team? Whoa! Names were not said. Do you guys have team incentives or is that

like a quarterback? Team rush normally. I tried to stay away from them because then you're relying on everyone else yeah but running backs have like team rush this if it if we are above 15 in the nfl anyways we'll get into them that's a big deal joining us now is a man who has a lot of incentives every single day he's got 10 kids yeah that's a lot he's beat covid four times that kind of gets lost in a conversation hall of famer he's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion. He's won

a match at the Ryder Cup against foreign celebrities. Yeah, he did. Representing America. Saved a heart attack. Who? President of Ohio was a part of a situation where somebody almost died on green. That person survived. Partially because he saw this man's face. Ladies and gentlemen,

AJ Hawk. AJ, how you doing? I'm doing great. How are you guys doing? Really good day today. Really good day. Really good day today. Nice.

Yeah, I got to sleep for the first time in a while. You know, woke up this morning. Oh, that's what it feels like. This is fun. That was good. You know, it's been good. It's been really drama-free today. Yeah, no drama today.

You know, it's been all good. Yeah, it's been great. I didn't catch the This Day in History segment yet, but I'm looking forward to it eventually, Con Man. I mean, there is actually a great This Day in History. Uh-oh. Two years ago today, Big Ben played his final game at Heinz Field. Wow.

Thank you, Seven. Love you, Seven. Love you, Seven. January 3rd, Seven. Love you, Seven. Love you, Seven. January 3rd, 2022. This particular hand signal, sign language for I love you, took Detractor another round. Yeah, he did. At Heinz Field.

He did. It was before it was Accrasure. That's right. He high-fived everybody. Helmet on still. Yep. Way around. Well, that was the house that Ben built,

so it was good that it died with him, too. I mean, we got another of this day in history. I'm glad. Last game ever played at Heinz Field. Wow. This is two years. Holy hell. Holy hell.

This day in history is really doing it, huh? Picking it up. I wish you nothing but the best, Miles. Love you, Miles. Have a good one. Guys, I hate your other quarterback. I tried killing him. I don't know if he said that there.

That's what he said. But he said, but you seven? Ben actually told him, wait till you see how this ends with you in Cleveland. Yeah. It's going he said that there. That's what he said. But he said, but you seven? Ben actually told him, wait until you see how this ends with you in Cleveland. It's going to be pretty wild. That's Coach Tomlin. Who's that? All right.

Joining us now is a man who probably has some thoughts on this day in history of sports. And he better come with something. Remember, we're breaking news today. That's right. That's right. Not about this guy. He's starting it.

Newsbreaker. Ladies and gentlemen, future first ballot Hall of Famer, a man who's in the Houston Texans ring of honor, an absolute stud who scored touchdowns and sacks, picks and tackles. And now every single week he comes on and talks about his soccer team. Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Wong. J.J. Wong.

Wow. What's going on? Great shirt. Thank you. Great hat. Thank you. How we doing? Great.

How you guys doing? Love to see it. Great to see you. Just happy to be here. 2023, this day in sports history. Actually, it's 2024. Hot start to the day for me. JJ's high right now you take edibles

jj what the hell yeah lots of them just just absolutely mowed them down this morning like a bowl of cereal yes okay okay you and me both all right so now that we have that established this is phenomenal is that the breaking news is that what it was oh yeah yeah that's it no it was my breaking news was actually that what it was? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's it. No, my breaking news was actually that I know absolutely nothing about the Epstein list, but I don't want to get in trouble. JJ. Justin James, you son of a bitch. Why would you throw up in that pool?

That's Big J, baby. That is BJ. Yeah. All right, pull on the ticket. I know nothing. I don't want any fights. I don't need anybody calling me out. I don't want any lawsuits. I know nothing. I don't want any fights. I don't need anybody calling me out. I don't want any lawsuits.

I know nothing. I was taking the trash out to the road last night. Pitch black. I'm reading everything everybody's saying. I'm seeing it all. I'm walking those trash cans. I'm like, I'm pretty vulnerable. I'm out here all over.

I'm like, I ran like a kid the tongue digs used to live up the hill okay so i lived out here there's a massive hill it's a pittsburgh hill up at the top there's a lot of people that lived up there that i knew so used to hang out up there a lot you know but you walk home at night down that hill it's a long way it's just natural somebody a little bit quicker yeah somebody's behind you i used to sprint might be my knee problem might be my knees problem now that i think about it because the grade on that thing would certainly have a truck and the off-road thing if it was a highway play stop sign right in the middle of it yeah i can't with boom coming right through there i used to sprint like uh

somebody's gonna kill me somebody's gonna kill kill me. Somebody's going to kill me. I'm all the way down, right? All the way to my house. Great cardio last night. Felt like I was a kid again. I was spreading those things up, throw them up there,

sprint down to my, it was fantastic. So thanks for bringing it back up. JJ. Yeah. Appreciate it. No problem. No problem.

It was good. You know, content, you know, good, bad. Otherwise media is media. Yeah.

Good topical stuff. Uh, how are you feeling about the Burnley squad before we start talking football? Because football has a massive weekend. Your brother has a massive weekend. He's on the precipice of potentially another award that will go alongside all the others that he has. But we need to talk about this Burnley team. Where are we? Yeah.

Because we got a big FA Cup match Friday. Does that count? Does FA Cup count, Matt? That counts? Yeah. I Gumpy told me. We got a big FA Cup match Friday. Does that count? Does the FA Cup count, Matt, that it counts? Yeah. I mean, it's against Spurs. It's going to be a good match. It's going to be a tough match. Yeah.

It's like the NBA has started to. Mark Cuban is very big on European football, and he was very big on trying to implement some of the things from the academy to some of the in-season tournaments and uh the fa cup is somewhat roughly what they modeled that in-season tournament after okay so gumpy is this like the mls cup where the games don't count towards your standing because remember methie came over to america they win seven eight straight games and oh yes still in last in the mls not going to make the playoffs well why don't we count the games that millions of people watch into the whole thing?

Is that what the FA Cup is? Like, we need to win these games for Burnley? It helps us to get out of that one particular area? No, this doesn't affect the standings. This is the longest running cup in history of soccer. So it doesn't mean anything. This means nothing, J.J. This is England.

This is the FA Cup. This is part of who we are. It means nothing. If you want to win the travel, you're going to want to win the FA Cup. Can they get relegated or not, though? That's all that matters, right? If you get to bump up to the big guys. No, you win this, you get more money for the club as well.

Yeah, the FA Cup is every single soccer team in the entire country. So, like, your local little team can work their way all the way up to play in the entire country. So your local little team can work their way all the way up to play against the big dogs. That could be tough. Don't lose to them. We're playing Tottenham. We're playing Tottenham.

Oh my god, you're going to lose by 80! They don't score 80 goals in soccer. They're missing some players. They've been struggling a little bit. Son is gone. I think he's They don't score 80 goals in soccer. They're missing some players. They've been struggling a little bit. Espez? Hey, let's go. Son is gone. I think he's on international duty or he's back in Korea.

So he's a phenomenal player. Afcon and Asia Cup. They want to put up the pink slips too with us with Colin Cage? They go during the season. So players do lose like some of their best players during the actual season. Anyway, soccer's our sport now. You should think about maybe bringing Burnley to the MLS.

Yeah. You know what I mean? If they – that would be a lot of travel. I assume you could afford it. And Tyler from Duke. Yeah, of course. We're working on bringing them over to America for a little preseason action. We're working on that.

Oh, what are you going to have them play on? Grass, obviously. Maybe the Rose Bowl. You love the grass. I love the grass. Rose Bowl should be the national championship site every year. Easy. Okay, Kirk Herbstreit just said that.

You agree with that? 100%. Everybody's going to say, well, you Big Ten guys, obviously you hold the Rose Bowl in such high regard. I just heard Stephen A. Smith yesterday say they should play the Rose Bowl in Sofa. Oh. That was what Stephen A. Smith yesterday say, they should play the Rose Bowl in Sofa. That was what Stephen A. said yesterday. He did not say that.

Strictly because of traffic. Yeah, because it's impossible to get in and out of there is what he was saying, which is very real after we experienced it. But that field, that stadium, the vibe, the temperature, it did feel big. It felt big. you agree with that you

and kirk herbistry both very loud right now one thousand percent i mean there is something about that place about the stadium about the sunset about the mountains the atmosphere the vibe like the game feels significantly bigger in that environment even the game that played right after it the same significance to go to the national championship phenomenal atmosphere phenomenal game the superdome is an unbelievable place and i know it was loud as hell in there but that it just doesn't feel the same when you're watching it like when you are watching the rose bowl you feel you remember that vince young game against the usc you remember all those big moments there's just something special about that place and i think holding the national championship game

there every single year would be very, very fitting for a game that is losing a lot of its history and tradition in college football. Let's hold on to one thing. Yeah, keeping the Rose has the granddaddy or the remain. Or grandma, I mean. Honestly, 2023.

There are some matriarch families that are going to run through the grandmama. What's that? Nana? Nona? Obviously, 2023. Sure. There are some matriarch families that are going to run through the grand. Not in America, but. You know what I mean? What's that? Nana? Nona? Nona?

It's 2024. It's 2024. Yeah, and we got families. Oh, jeez. You did that earlier. I thought you were high. Well, I am. So that could potentially be the case as well.

Go ahead, AJ. JJ, so Aaron said some things yesterday that went kind of under the radar for whatever reason. I don't know why, but he talked about that turf out there in the grass at the Rose Bowl. He mentioned the cleats that he feels like players should be wearing. Do you have any input on that and what you think? Like should guys be – so you'd say, hey, no, you need to be wearing seven stud screw-ins on this certain field.

And what did you kind of do when you were playing? Did you change depending on the surface? Yes, I will say that watching this game on TV and seeing the turf kind of come up a little bit, that did not match my experience. The grass that I played on there, as I stated, was hands down the best I've ever seen, I've ever played on. I mean, I literally got down on my hands before the game

and was like feeling it because it was that incredible. Colt McCoy, I was talking to him about the other day he's he's played in a couple rose bowls and he he concurred with me that that is the best but when it comes to cleats it is an extremely important discussion because depending on your position depending on what you're required to do there's very very different feelings from a seven stud to a regular molded cleat to a turf hog that some of the old linemen like to wear. The old linemen like turf hogs because you don't want to get your feet caught into the ground. So they, you know, if you get into a bad situation, they can slip outside from under you. As a pass rusher, I like the molded little bit shorter ones because I want that speed.

You want that ability to turn the corner and gain the edge. When you switch to a seven stud, which for people that don't know, it's a little bit longer. It's those screwing cleats that you can definitely get better grip, but you do sacrifice a little bit of that speed. It takes you a little bit longer to get the cleat out of the ground as you're trying to turn a corner, as you're trying to accelerate. So I tried to hold onto the mold as long as I possibly could. The only time I ever wore a seven stud was if we were in a truly, bad situation um you know jacksonville stadium sometimes turns the sand a little bit that that field gets a little sandy so that one sometimes you would or if you're in a really rain it was eight inches long yeah chicago is crazy so nice pittsburgh used to be just like spray painted dirt they've changed

that since then but yeah of course of course everything's better now Everything's better now. Love that. Major Rooftop. Well, they play a college football game on a Saturday night, and then they'll play a Steelers game on Sunday. That's wild, man. Even better. It's a billion-dollar business. Even better. High school Whip-Yule championships. Put those on Friday. That school needs to get a stadium, okay? Get off of our field.

Who's that? Pitt. What? Tony. I mean, take a stand. I have no agency to that Tony. I mean, take a step. I have no ages to that school. I mean, get off the field. What do the Dukes play? Dukes play Arthur J. Rooney Stadium. They play in some parking lot on the street.

It is a parking lot. It's right above the prison, actually, downtown. And they put an air bubble around it in the winter, and every local soccer team basically plays in there. That's sweet. It's a beautiful field. The Dukes give back to the community in a big way. It really is the Harvard of Pittsburgh. Well, if they had more grass, it's all cement up there

because it's hard to grow grass on the jail's roof, which is where Duke is located. Also, don't put that on this. It's right on top of the prison. I mean, literally, right on top of it. That's awesome. The prisoners on top floor, they actually are able to hear some of the lessons that are being

taught at Du, nice. Yeah, at Duquesne. That's where they should play the Rose Bowl. Guys and girls. Guys. It's all guys. I wanted to be equal there, but it is a male prisoner. Okay.

They actually walk away with doctorate degrees. Yeah, honorary degree after you finish your stint. Because Duquesne's right there on top. Thank you. Learned so much. Thank you for doing that, Duquesne. Love you, Duquesne. Welcome, everyone. Go Dukes.

You said something about the Rose Bowl grass not being good from watching on TV. Is that what you said? Because the boys ate it. Yeah, so good. They ate it. They said it was good. There was a lot of slipping, though. Not normal. That's what you were kind of saying?

It did appear to be some slippage. It did appear to be coming up a little bit. You guys were there. I mean, what was it like? It was slippy out there. It was. I did see and feel a little slippiness. I ran actually right next to the

Alabama football team as they were going into overtime. Right next to Coach Saban. My boots were slipping a little bit. It is a little slippy out here. I have a question because you guys were there obviously for the Rose Bowl being at the exact time slot that it is so that we get the perfect sunset.

We get the views. Can't change that. San Gabriel. Yeah. Oh, gorgeous. Unbelievable. But it does push the next game way back. I mean, I'm on mountain time and it was still late when that game ended. East Coast time has to be brutal.

Would you rather have the other game first or are you okay with it being so late? I want to see San Gabriel's dancing. Yes. The question was, would you rather put the other game before or after the Rose Bowl? Leave the Rose Bowl where it is. I won't see San Gabriel's dance. Something in your ears? I don't care.

Whatever. You know what I mean? What do we even? Need the cotton candy. Need it. Yeah, what do you want the game to kick off at? The sky isn't changing. The Rose Bowl stage.

Make the sugar 1 p.m. start. The other one. Alright. Kick off 10 a.m. Kick off 10 a.m. College football playoff. Once again, though, you make it to the national championship. It's on its own day.

Then that San Gabriel's dancing. It doesn't matter. It's got a seven-time slot. They could do the championship someday. You get college football. You got you guys with Kirk and the whole crew leading up to it, talking about the lengths. You got the whole thing leading right up to it. It would be beautiful.

What? The naysayers. Let them all know. Let them all know. JJ, I don't know if that segment had absolutely rolling i saw that thing live i was up and i was watching it man and i was dying and i was just hoping that there were enough people picking up on that at the moment because it was one of the best segments of television i've seen so once again that's like locker room like that's

like uh you know i think it's we need more of it man we need uh you know i i think if everybody really met each other and had an opportunity to listen to each other how they laugh how they view things how they shit talk things and then just have a little bit of an understanding where people who aren't exactly in your direct circle are coming from and why they're doing that which is what a football locker room is because you're forced to be around each other you know you got that shirt on right now. That's like a perfect depiction of like what football and what the locker room does.

And I think everybody gets to see it and remember the Titans. But it's like, I don't want to say we're fighting the same wars today that they fought on these fields. On this hallowed ground. One of the greatest speeches of all time. Shout out to Denzel Washington. need more of those speeches from him but it's like that's as it's happening me joey galloway desmond howard you know and herbie obviously been in a locker room like as it's i'm sitting there like i don't know if reese and when he said what he said i was so

confused because i didn't know what it meant and then he started to say it and I started to figure it out. And then I was like, man, I don't know if that's the phrase. And then I was, when you said it, I was absolutely lost. JJ, I was just like thanking God for, I like Reese. I like Reese a lot. I saw him leading right to a, I saw him just driving himself right off a cliff. As I'm sitting there, I'm like, right off a cliff. What are you doing? As I'm sitting there, I'm like, we're at the Rose Bowl, you know.

And he's like, it's a grand length, which stands for – and I'm like – Oh, Reese. This is going to be interesting. He's going right now. How's he going to do this? Is he going to go, no? And then he's going to make me say it yeah in my head go ahead in my head i was like what are we so then whenever he dropped the sigh of relief from

my body i mean i felt like i had an anxiety ball like inside of it for him just like a discomfort and then when he says naysayers it's like oh my god thank god i almost felt like that's why i was like he interrupted him completely just because of how much i was going through next to him And then when he says naysayers, it's like, oh, my God. Thank God. I almost felt like, that's why I was like, whoa. He interrupted him completely just because of how much I was going through next to him. And then, obviously, Joey and Dez reacted to that. Joey got. That was perfect. Huh?

Camera crew knowing to pan out, get that full shot. Oh, yeah. To see everybody react. Yeah. Perfect. Joey having a paper towel. Yeah. What a scene.

Lucky to be there. But once again, that's football, baby. Hey. That's literally what football does. Real life. Yeah. Lucky to be a part of it. But it is.

I'm very thankful Reece is still a host. Yeah. And nobody is mad about it. Right. Because I thought there was a time where we just lost a good guy. Good run. We lost a good guy out there. Con Man has a question for you, JJ.

Yeah, JJ. Heading into week 18., obviously there are some teams, you know, biggest game of the year gearing up. What's the mindset for some of those, and how many games like that did you play? And then on the opposite side of that, right now should I be expecting a lot of, you know, players of the Patriots or the Cardinals to be, like,

packing their bags, you know, having everything ready so that when they come home from their game on Sunday, they can just head right to the airport and go to wherever vacation they've been playing for the last couple months? Yeah, I do think you have a little bit of both there. On the other side, there's some games this weekend that are literally playoff games. You win it and you're in, you lose and you're potentially out.

So it's fascinating from that standpoint where it is a true playoff atmosphere. You are preparing as hard as you could possibly prepare. The hype, the buildup is all very real. Unfortunately, I've also been on the flip side of that where there is literally nothing to play for and it is pure pride and it is pure just going out there and trying to play the best you can. Absolutely, there are some guys with the keys in the ignition of the car ready to go. They have their lockers packed up.

Everything is all set. They have their plane tickets booked. Everything is ready to go out the door. But there's still, at the end of the day, you are still a competitor. At the end of the day, you are still at the core an athlete, somebody who wants to go out there and win. I think Vrabel had, obviously, the great press conference this week. When you step onto a football field, you go across those white lines.

It doesn't matter what the record is. You want to put on a good performance. You want to win. You guys have talked about it a little bit. There's incentives that guys are playing for. There's different things. So at the end of the day, you still want to go out there and you want to win football games fascinated to see what some of the teams that have already locked up first place are going to do like the Ravens obviously Lamar is he

going to sit are you going to sit more of your guys that's always a fascinating discussion and conversation to see how teams handle that and then to see how it pans out for him Patrick Mahomes will be resting Blaine Gabbert will be playing for the Kansas City Chiefs as they've locked in the number three seed. Joe Flacco is also sitting out. Joe Flacco is resting, going back to the couch for a night. Smart. Trying to keep that perspective and the hunger alive for Joey Flack.

What a story he has become. You mentioned something there about Week 18 and incentives, and I think Flack's got a few. D-Bud has a question for you. Chris Jones might, too. Stone Cold Jones. 1.5 million. Yeah, that's a big one. week 18 and incentives and i think flax got a few d-butt has a question for you chris jones might too 1.5 million yeah that's a big one uh you have any experience with that jj week 17 week 18 out there chasing in the centers probably a couple million on the line i actually i had i actually had a funny situation so i didn't in in my second contract with the one here in arizona um i did

have like a number of sacks gets you this or that um but i was under the impression that it was a i had to do something in year one to get year two's incentives to trigger uh something something like that so i i assumed i didn't have any incentives in my last year um so i was just going out there and playing and i got I got 12 and a half sacks. And my agent was like, congrats, man. I think it was either $1 or $2 million. And he was like, congrats, dude. You locked that up.

And I was like, what do you mean? And he was like, you hit your incentive. And I was like, no, I didn't get it. I didn't lock in the last year. He was like, no, you absolutely got it. Congratulations. You got $2 million. I was like, oh, my God.

This is awesome. What a day. What a day. It was such a nice little treat. How about people find 20 bucks in their jeans after it comes out of the washer? I got 20 bucks. This guy comes off the field. He's got $2 million.

Whoa. Me? Oh, God. I have one on the other side. no no maybe you should use some of that he early in his career oh no oh no oh no all right we're back back back all right connor barwin early in his career he apparently had a playing time incentive uh where it was like the percentage of snaps and he got taken out of the game two snaps shy of it. But I guess he didn't know.

Nobody knew. The coach didn't know. Missed out on 1.2. Missed out on 1.2 for two snaps. You said that nobody knew? They knew. I can't remember the story exactly, so I don't want to tell it wrong, especially because I don't want –

They should have given it. The D-line coach, Bill Kolar, is my D-line coach for a long time, one of my best friends, and to this day, he talks about how sick he feels about it, because I truly believe he didn't know. Oh, got it. But nobody told Connor either on his way out. He's played two more plays. D-line coach didn't know.

I trust D-line. Yeah, head coach, though. Definitely. Agent? GM, definitely having conversations with head coach. Connor Barwin still in the front office, Philly? Yeah, he still does stuff up there. He does a lot of charitable stuff. He also is a partial owner of an Italian basketball team. Roma?

Hey, he's a freak athlete, right, Connor? Yeah. Yeah. I believe he played a little hoops at Cincinnati also and top of football. Yeah. Absolute dog. I'm a huge fan of Connor Barwin, old Big East.

Oh, yeah. He was a freak shot. Yeah, he was. And just he had that Max Crosby-like energy. Yeah, he did. You know, it just never, ever stopped. I'm happy we're having a full-on conversation about it. Hey, way to go, guys.

Way to go, Connor. You did it, pal. Connor has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, JJ, another situation that's kind of come to the end, if you will, hopefully for himself, not for us. David Tepper, he had a little bit of a meltdown, you could say, at the Jags game. Have you ever seen something along those lines?

And also, what do you do if you're a player and maybe, you know, they have to fine you for doing something, and David Tepper's the one telling you how you can't. Hold on. Hold on, though. I just saw something. Who's wearing the crowns in there? Crowns? You see the crowns?

Oh, yeah. There's a couple crowned. Look in the front row here. I think it's New Year's stuff. Isn't that New Year's stuff? Oh, yeah. You're right. Oh.

Or maybe they just won a pageant. Maybe. Congratulations. Maybe they're royals. Maybe they yeah, you're right. Oh. Or maybe they just won a pageant. Maybe. Congratulations. Maybe they're royals. Maybe they just came from Burger King. That could have been it, too. Maybe Tepper. Have it your way.

I don't know if those are Burger King crowns. Could be. Those look like legit. Those look like real crowns. What if Tepper dubs one person every single time he's in the suite? Like, hey. You're the queen. You're the queen today.

I'm the king. Everybody knows that. Charlotte is the queen city, so it would make sense. Oh! Playing in Jacksonville. Yeah, but take a queen down there. With him. Yeah, you're bringing the queen city with you.

You're bringing the queen city to it. But anyways, back to the question. Fascinating situation. Fascinating situation. Because on one hand, as a pure fan of the sport fan of entertainment fan of the fact that this is all an entertainment business wildly entertaining i mean that is like it's dramatic it's entertaining guys showing some passion so on some fire so on some energy i like that uh but on the flip side of that i also know what

would happen if a fan did that, or if a player did something similar, like your fans getting kicked out, probably never let back in the stadium player, definitely getting fined, possibly worse. So he got fined. He got,

he got fined. I think it was the equivalent of about 35 cents for anybody else. But I mean, it's, you can't say like guys, just because he's worth 20 billion. What? So you want to find them a billion dollars? Like you can't say just because he's worth $20 billion, what? So you want to fine him a billion dollars? You can't do that because in the NFL

you've got to go to a percentage-based fine system on players, and if I got a rough in the passer penalty, that would really hurt. So I don't want that. I don't know. I don't know. You tell me.

They're fining Jalen Warren $49,000 for blocking a guy in the chest coming through the A-gap, and obviously we combated that with a couple other plays as well. $300,000. So you're saying six blocks. Yeah, you're right. I didn't think about it like that. I didn't think about it like that.

You're saying six blocks is okay for an owner to toss? Interesting. Interesting move here. I gotta think. I'm not thinking twice about tossing another drink if it's only that. I might just toss another one out there. What if he does do the

Stone Cold Steve Austin cheers to himself and he's like, next game picks him up again. We're having a $2 million celebration! Boom! Bang! Just holds up a picture of the check and just snaps the check right at the screen. Two, Roger has a briefcase.

So we got cups. He's opening the briefcase with Roger Goodell's face on some of the money. He's saying, take that, Rog. Is that what you want, Rog? This guy is a character, though, to your point. He speaks at... In reading his statement, there wasn't really

an apology in there, but it was a statement. I would love to know what the person said. Go ahead. Go ahead. I am deeply passionate about this team and regret my behavior on Sunday. I should have let NFL Stadium Security handle any issues that arose. I respect the NFL's code of conduct and accept the league's discipline for my

behavior. We're moving on. I would like, I would like to point out the, I should have let NFL stadium security handle any issues that arose. That is him saying, somebody said some crazy shit to me. I responded appropriately.

So I want to know what the hell that person said. That would be great to hear the other end of the story. I'm sure there has to be cameras somewhere that will catch the audio. We'll find it. Or AI will just create it. And then we'll never actually know what the truth is. Or you just make up a story and then let people run with it. And then you go back and retract it later and say, sorry, that actually wasn't a real story,

but then everybody already believes it's a real story. So that's how most of the world works. Okay, you said you didn't want to dive into that type of stuff. You said we weren't going to do that type of stuff. I didn't know anything about that list. I thought that's what this show was. I thought that's the whole... Don't be a pig, JJ.

JJ. Don't be disgusted. Okay? Big pops out of JJ big pops JJ really cracking himself up well well well great to see you I'm excited to see this

Tepper thing continue you know because like Snyder was the guy for a long time oh the NFL lets doofuses run teams. You see what's going on in Washington? They got a bad guy who is dumb. That's been alleged by every human. A lot of people are saying that.

I'm not creating this narrative that has been out there for a long time. They kind of force him to say, I'll see you later. You're going to get out of here finally after years and years of us thinking they're going to do that. And then Tepper's like, don't you worry. I'm coming right on it. I'm filing bankruptcy on a town. You're not holding up your side. going to do that. And then Tepper's like, don't you worry. I'm coming right on it. I'm filing bankruptcy on a town. You're not holding up your side. I will do it.

Throwing drinks on people, bringing in the coach, taking their soul and their happiness. Tepper's like, I'm here all day too. I'm the second richest one in this league. They ain't never running me out of here. This is my time now. And they have 50 people in the stands for a couple games. I don't know how it's going to go.

I don't know how it's going to go. I don't know how it's going to go. Diggs has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, JJ, first and foremost, congratulations. I'm not sure if you know this. TJ was voted MVP of the Steelers, so congratulations for that. Not sure if you've ever won one of those. A Steelers MVP? Never, JJ.

Yeah, no, I haven't. Loser. I guess he's got you on that one. Still time. Yeah, no, I haven't. Loser! He's got you on that one. Still time. Yeah, there is still time. But just that team in general. I mean, you were on plenty of Texans teams where you guys had to go down to the third-string quarterback

and ended up making the playoffs in those situations. It feels like just a completely different team than two weeks ago now that Mason's starting. What are your thoughts just in general on that whole situation? It is a fascinating situation um especially obviously as kenny gets healthier and healthier it's just from a fan perspective it's fun it's fascinating to watch because you start to think about it but i mean i i don't when the way mason's played the last two weeks the way the offense has kind of gone out there and performed the last two weeks i i don't blame them whatsoever you got to ride that hot hand and see where it takes you here.

I mean, they truly have put up a couple great performances. I think I saw their offensive output last week was the best since, like, 2018 or something like that. Yeah, before back in the day. You've got to keep rolling with that. It does seem to be a little more loose, a little more free, especially in the last couple weeks. So it's fun to watch.

I mean, as a fan, obviously I watch every Steelers game because of TJ, and to see them putting up points and getting up into the 30s is enjoyable. Yeah, watch George Pickens do George Pickens stuff, as opposed to George Pickens interviews being the topic of conversation about George Pickens. George Pickens stuff as opposed to George Pickens interviews being the topic of conversation about George Pickens. That's cool. Yeah, and I do feel like it is. You also have to put yourself in Kenny's shoes there and think,

like, you know, that old adage, like, some coaches have it, some coaches don't, where they say, you know, a guy can't lose his job to injury. I'm not saying that he lost his job for good by any stretch. They obviously have conversations in his offseason there. But, like, Kenny's done everything right. Kenny's done everything right by all accounts.

He's an unbelievable guy, unbelievable teammate, and everything. So if you put yourself in his shoes, it does have to be a little bit tough to sit there and not be able to go out there and perform and do the things you want to do.

But like I said, if I'm Tomlin and I'm sitting in that room, you just got to run. Sorry about it. I think it's what they're saying to Kenny. And Mason Rudolph is thanking his Lord and Savior every single day for another opportunity, legitimately.

Think about those couple years for Mason Rudolph when people in Pittsburgh used to get upset when his name was mentioned to play football for the Pittsburgh Steelers because of how bad he was at the beginning of his career for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And then obviously the Miles situation takes place on public, very public primetime game. Then there's offseason stories about him potentially dating a celebrity and people in Pittsburgh after the bad football. And what they have heard.

And then that guy is phenomenal. Absolutely good at football. And Mason Rudolph's putting it out there to him and not scared of it. Which is awesome with the new offense coordinator. good at football and Mason Rudolph's putting it out there to him and not scared of it which is awesome with the new offense coordinator and that is a big time play for them that was kind of profiled by the inside the NFL mic'd up situation where Mike Tomlin told him let's do it and Bill Hillgrove uh Pittsburgh Steelers commentator was like 99% chance of running a ball there and they throw it instead sounding like Myronope. It feels like a much funner atmosphere.

It feels good. So whenever Kenny has any negativity, it's hard not to just be like, okay, life's good right now. This is what everybody's working for. But personally, it has to be pretty difficult for him. We love you, Kenny. We do. Keep going, Kenny.

Absolutely. And welcome back, Mason. Yeah. Good for you. He had some tough days. Oh, yeah. No face mask. Yeah, man. So many memes. So many things said about him. Good for you. He had some tough days. Oh, yeah. No face mask. Tough.

Oh, man. So many memes. So many things said about him. Oh, geez. The worst things, too. They're terrible. Yeah. Not as bad as things that were said yesterday.

Right. Well, you never know. We might have to check the tape. He stunk, though. With new information comes new opinions. He doesn't stink anymore. He doesn't stink anymore. He doesn't stink anymore. Guy's pretty good.

Currently playing really good. Is he one of the top in the league right now? Do I need to be honest or do I need to not be honest? Yeah. Future of the team. You tell me, cowboy. I like being honest. Is that right?

Yeah. I don't know if a lot of people would say that to watch the show. You have that maybe voice thing that you do when you just blatantly lie. I don't know if that's being dishonest. Disingenuous, for sure. There it is. Tone, tone. Today, who's the Sears starting quarterback opening day next year?

Probably no one on the roster. What about Mason Rudolph? What do we have? Well, who is it then? Michael Penix. Russell Wilson. Kirk Cousins. All great options.

Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco should complete the division. Maybe Joe Flacco. I mean, you tell me, JJ. Just round circle the whole division? That would be incredible. Who do you think, JJ?

Who do you think is quarterback for the season? I truly don't know. I'm fascinated. I don't know either. These are the types of things that – these are the type of discussions and things that make you happy that you don't have to make the decisions. But I do know that if I'm if I'm in a GM chair and I'm looking at the quarterback position in the National Football League, I do tend to look for the youngest, cheapest option in hopes that I can build a contender around that,

as opposed to a guy that's getting close to a second contract, because no matter what, that second quarterback contract in the NFL is a big, big, big number. And unless you are 100% sure you have your guy and you know he's going to be your guy, that number will cripple you if you give it to the wrong guy. And also, you can find your guy guy by building up a great team around him. If you spend so much money whenever you still don't know if the person's the guy, well, the team's never going to be able to give you an answer on if you know if the guy's a guy because they're probably going to be cropped because you can't afford anybody you got to leverage and hemorrhage cash from one particular part of your team to pay this other part and this part better be able to win games

by themselves then because this whole part is being left behind it's a tough decision to make and there's two different models you know there's two different models you're going to pay a guy and that guy's going to be able to carry your team and make bad players good and be able to win games alongside the coaching and scheming and everything like that or you're gonna build a team and you're gonna need somebody to outperform their actual value like what brock party's doing like what jared goff did at la like what russell wilson did whenever he was at seattle with the leg Legion of Boom and everything that was around him whenever they were having their success.

There's numerous accounts of that happening. It's just can you pull the trigger on that or not whenever you're due to pay somebody and decide to your fan base, we're going to have a question mark next year. That is the tough decision to make at the time, especially in April or May, when those are the only headlines that are really coming

out of anywhere. If I were a betting man, though, and I am, and I know the Steelers organization, Kenny will be the starter week one next year. Connor said it many times. We are just one year behind the Patriots right now. So this is year three for Mac. They gave him one more year. Didn't work out. We'll see how it goes next year for Steelers.

What are you guys doing at quarterback next year? I don't care because all I know is Joe freaking Alt is going to be blocking for him and that's all that matters. Ty has a question for you, JJ. Yeah, JJ, let's stay in that division. A couple weeks ago you were talking about Lamar and how basically every GM in the NFL who came

out and said, hey, we don't even want to start this conversation about him coming here was a moron. You were absolutely right they trounced the dolphins last week um but what do you think about like the the line has moved towards the steelers because everyone assumes that the ravens having already clinched are gonna just bench a bunch of guys is the whole uh conversation around like the potentially getting two almost three weeks off going into the playoffs and starting that first playoff game with a bunch of rust

and maybe putting yourselves in a bad position. Is that all bullshit? How do you feel about if you were in that position, would you want that extra week's rest or extra couple weeks' rest going into the playoffs? I do wish I had experience in this category. I do wish that I was able to give you a first-hand experience of it, but I don't.

I look at it from other people's perspectives, and I try and study situations from the past. One of the things I look back on is all the Brady years and the years that they locked it up early. I believe that Tom played. I believe I didn't actually go back and look at it because that's a lot of research, and I'm

just a guy. We're going to put more information out thanks jj there's the breaking news um but also on the flip side of that like i mean i heard aaron talking about yesterday and he's he's absolutely right that you're in a no-win situation as a coach there because you put your guys out there because you don't want rust and then one of your guys get hurt and people call you a moron you don't put your guys out there and they're rusty in the first playoff game now you're a moron for not playing them it's it's such a it's such a gamble there and i think if you're on the conservative side of things you have to sit them out just because then you're taking away any ounce of risk whatsoever um the ravens i believe two years ago didn't play them in the last game

and then struggled in the playoffs. So does that weigh on their mind at all? I don't know. I would personally, if it's up to me, with how injuries and everything, I mean, you look at Bradley Chubb, you look at some of these situations late in games, I'd rest them. I'd rest them, let them rest, have some hard practices, make sure that they're staying in shape, but I'd oh it's 90 luck 20 skill 55 percent concentration five percent pleasure

fifty percent pain yep and one hundred percent reason to remember the name hell yeah i just felt like we we did we just weren't into a movie right yeah i got chills you see oh me too i got chills huh gps dude goosebumps yep that's right wow holy wow you're made already here it's only i mean what a third what a song what a song attitude does reflect leadership captain yeah you're. Yeah, you're damn right. Boom. You're damn right. You put a little slow motion behind that as that song was being sung.

Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah, maybe sing it again, and then you and AJ can do some slow motion stuff. Gotta love it when your whole life is documented, man. You definitely make some mistakes. We're talking about that before the show. Hey, did you hear that about I don't like to

talk too much drama, but front of the program, I think at least, I think you would say the same. Travis Kelsey's people came out. Have you heard about this? And they're like a little bit worried about overexposure right now. And now, JJ, you had a run. Hey, you had a run where you were on everything, and then you just disappeared from that. Was that a conscious decision that you had to make?

Yeah. I mean, I definitely had a time of overexposure, there's no doubt. And there's no handbook for it. There's no – nobody can – like, as you're coming up and coming out of college and going into the NFL and making that transition, nobody hands you a book and says, Hey, you're going to be rich and famous. Here's what you do. Like, here's how, like for me, especially as a defensive lineman and defensive guy in general, there weren't a lot of defensive guys getting national commercials. There weren't a lot of defensive guys getting some of the

opportunities that I had. So we were kind of navigating these waters and trying to figure it out. And I mean, people are throwing absurd amounts of money at you for commercial opportunities, for endorsements, for things. And you've never experienced it all before. And you're a small town kid from Wisconsin. Like, I'm literally looking at these numbers and I'm thinking about my buddy back home was a plumber. And I'm like, that guy would work 10 years for this number. Why would I not do it for this two hour commercial? I'm JJ.

Like, so I'm, so I go out there and I do all this stuff. And then all of a sudden you're on NFL season comes around and there's 16 commercials with you on them. And people are like, I'm so sick of this guy. And that was kind of when Twitter was still a little bit early.

It was, it was still coming around. So now I'm reading everything. And now all of a sudden people are like, I'm sick of this guy. I want him off. And I don't know how to emotionally and properly handle that. So I'm starting to figure out, like, oh, man, the world hates me.

Like, they don't like me. So I got to back this down. And then obviously we had a whole thing with, you know, Big Cat and Barstool and those guys started, which, again, I will always say part of that is absolutely justified. Like, I was a little bit too Captain America. I was a little bit too, like try and be perfect and try and do everything exactly the right way. And I did need to be checked a little bit on that. And I do appreciate that,

that it may be go a little bit too far, maybe, but I consciously, I consciously brought it back. I consciously reeled it back and said like, okay, I gotta, I gotta reanalyze this. I gotta refigure all this out. Um, and just, it all comes down to

being natural, being authentic, being real, being who you are. And sometimes it's very hard to do that because you're more vulnerable that way. And you also don't realize like everybody knows you think about yourself more than anybody else in the entire world thinks about you. So I always like these people are thinking about this. These people are thinking about that. But in reality, nobody cares, man. And there was just a time where a lot of people did care and they made their thoughts very clear and very real.

And so it was a learning experience for me. And I'm going to make a lot more mistakes in the future. But yes, overexposure and putting yourself out there can certainly make yourself vulnerable. But as long as you're being real and being who you are, let's be honest, 99.99% of people ain't turned down. Those checks ain't turned down. Those endorsements ain't turned down. Those opportunities. Wow, yeah.

Hey, JJ, that was awesome, bro. Yeah, that was sick. That was really cool. Thank you for doing that, especially as we kind of go off the air on this glorious Trenches Wednesday. We'll continue on YouTube and ESPN+. That was a phenomenal answer. We're dancing with being OD'd

on overexposure. You know what I mean? You're flying too close to the sun right now. Yeah, way too close. Every single... Yeah. What did that look like? People love a success story. The thing I've learned, I mean, I follow it with other athletes and with everybody? People love a success story. Like, a thing I've learned.

I mean, I follow it with other athletes and with everybody. People love a success story, but then there comes a point where they love to see it crash. That's right. And then they love a comeback story also. Ah. I mean, not a bad ending. So close. Not a bad.

I tried. I tried. I heard it. I couldn't time it up right. I think you did kind of, though. It was in. Yeah. Yeah, that's perfect.

Love to see it crash, and then there's music, and then it's over. Maybe the most. If Comeback Story was in at the end, too. Comeback Story, Comeback Tomorrow. Yeah, I think Comeback Story got cut off. I do believe. I think it was just the crash thing, which is pretty poetic because everything is kind of going on with our particular program right now.

You know what I mean? How are you? How do you handle it? Let's hear your perspective. How do you handle it all? How do you feel about it all? How do you go about it? I'm muting people at an all-pro level right now. Hell yeah, bro. Division one.

Bro, I am. I'm a D1 muter and blocker at this standpoint. Because I'm on there. I have to be on there. I have to see everything that's going on. You know, like, I have to be on the internet. There's people in the TV and internet world or entertainment world that are like, you can't go on the internet, you know,

it'll kill you or whatever. It's like, well, how the fuck do you know what's going on? How do you, how do you, what do we, how do you have any,

most people always blow my mind. I'm like, okay, so you just want me to be like, I'm not going to know anything that's happening in the entire world. So my Amish also, what, I don't understand what,

and I'm waiting for the five o'clock news to tell me what am I, how do I. So with the way it's all set up, obviously, the way the apps are set up, have to be on there. And then, like, notifications, like, there's people that send in really good shit for us to look at. Like, for instance, I learned a Luke Littler. Oh, baby. From somebody that sent me a post.

Boom. Hey, buddy, I don't know if Burnley is thinking about starting a professional dart team over there. But I know the first pick that I'll make it, if I'm Tyler from Dude Perfect or JJ Huai, this was to send him to the finals of the World Dart Championship at the Alexandra Palace in London. This dude's 16 years old over there. An absolute sensation. Just beating the hell out of this cross guy who goes triple, triple.

They're so good. Which one is 16 years old? This one. Purple. Not the one who's completely bald. That guy right here? Boom. He did it. He's done it. He completely bald. That guy right here? Boom. He did it.

He's done it. He's 16. That guy's 16 years old. And, you know, whenever you win in front of that rompest crowd, which we are certainly going to be a part of at some point in our life, and then you tell Cross, hey, good game, and Cross wants to suck on your ear a little bit. And he says, no, your 16-year-old's really good.

Hey, look at this guy. He says, and Lillard's like, hey, let me go see my family at least or something. Keep playing it, please. Keep playing it, please. Keep playing it, please. Keep playing it. He stops him again. What the? He stops him again.

What? Let Littler live, Cross. Let him live. Let Littler live, Cross. Okay, so. Did he pat him down? He'll be on the list. Basically, he's trying to grab that,

grab a whole load for the best sportsmanship in all of sports. I understand the sportsmanship has to be real, but I think what the case is, is Cross just lost to a 16-year-old in front of everybody, and he was like, I want to let the world know that I have massive respect for him. Just in case you didn't see me sucking on his ear the first time. And when he goes to get a round of applause for you guys, I'm going to suck on his ear one more time and let him know what's going on.

So I think that's what Cross is doing. We appreciate your humility, Cross, but we know that Luke Littler's a dog. He's only 16, Kai. Yeah, a lot of people over there are actually saying, like, look, it's pudgy little fucker. He's not 16. He's about 35. I see all the fucking facial hair. And to that, I say, fuck off,

wanker. Okay? Luke Littler is the best thing that's ever happened to the great nation of London in its entirety. The great nation of London? Yep. England, London.

It's a great nation. You understand what I mean, JJ, AJ. Both of you can fuck off, actually. All right? Let this man have a fucking pint when he wins today. I know he's only 16. No, he's actually, we have a clip, he was asked about not being able to enjoy a pint.

Although I think some parts of Europe you could at the age of 16. In England, it's not until 18, apparently. Here's Luke Littler getting interviewed about how he's going to celebrate this massive win, historic win, legendary win. You can't drink, you can't vote, you can't

bet, you can't drive a car yet. How do you celebrate as a 16-year-old when you perform like that on the Ali Pali stage? What are you going to do? Probably just treat myself to a kebab. Get myself some bottles of Coke, bottles of Fanta. And probably treat myself to some more vapes. Just get himself some more vapes. Just get himself some more vapes. He's going to have a bottle of Fanta, I believe,

a Coke and a Kabob. I believe is what he's going to do. Luke Littler is a weapon. Yeah, he's a dog. I mean, I said it before. I'm questioning, you know, what kind of vape? Does he Juul? Does he use one of these other things?

But it just hit me. I'm just glad that they call them vapes and not what they call them, cigs. Thank God that they're at least transitioning into the next era of smoking in the right way. Yeah, he's talking about a nickname for cigarettes over there. There's a lot of different uses of

the English language between us and them. I found that out whenever I was with the WWE. The world finds out about it every once in a while whenever there's a British meme that makes its way over to America. That's certainly something, but I didn't know you could vape at 16 over there. You can vape.

If you have a mouth and you want nicotine, they will find a way to give you a vape because there's a lot of conspiracies and I don't want to go into it too much. Not on this day. On this day! Hot, sea, clean! China is making all the vapes.

That is what they're saying. All right. Here we go. People are seeing clearly. This is how it started yesterday. This is exactly where we were. That's what's being said. Let's get back to Luke Littler.

Personally, I enjoy that he uses a toothbrush seemingly to brush his teeth and not a pile of rocks like most British people. That's a good point. That's old. That's from the Austin Powers. I think. He's got a beard coming in there. He does have a beard coming in. 16. Phil. the Austin Powers. He's got a beard coming in there. He does have a beard coming in.

16. Phil, CFO Phil, he's got a beard in eighth grade. So the guy he's playing for the championship tonight beat him. Boo. You mean Humphreys? Before he said, yeah, I was 12 years old. I let him win. Wow.

He's got a chance to be the next Van Gerwen. He does. So Luke Littler has played six games to get to this point, has beat four seeded players, including two former world champions. Oh, no big deal. So his road here to the finals has not been easy at the Alexander Palace. He's going to take it home, too. Feels like this is the beginning of something.

We might be in the middle of watching the Littler dynasty take off in London. Look out. And that's something we need to appreciate, AJ. Yeah, I don't know. Do you think he has sustained success in his genes? Whoa. Yeah. What's so funny, AQ?

What is so funny? I just loved AJ's answer right there. He wanted no part of answering that for a second. Zero part. Littler's kind of cheating also, too, because all the other players are bombed out of their mind like they're hammered. That's not true. They are not. That is not true. The disrespect

of darts. Did you see that crowd? You think that crowd showed up for a bunch of drunk darts? I love darts and no one respects it more than me. That's not true. That's not true. Definitely not. JJ, I will take it from these other guys.

I don't fucking need it from you right now, okay? Whoa, whoa. Why am I on a dart machine? Because I thought we were friends. Well, you're all of a sudden a dart connoisseur. Well, you should have heard about fantasy football. Doge coin. I'm sorry.

Do you have a dart machine in your basement? Oh! That is real. Tone does. He does. Joke's on you. I don't have a basement. Oh!

It's in the desert. Bitch. Sorry, I don don't have a basement. Oh! It's in the desert. Bitch. Sorry, I don't live in a compound. Oh! True. You've made space. He certainly has room to throw darts, but you do appreciate a good dart game. Yeah, I mean, we grew up on it.

I mean, Nick's house, we always pre-game playing darts. Cork or plastic? Cork or plastic? Cork. Got plastic at the house now. All right. All right. Got plastic at the house now.

Uh-huh. Yeah. A little different. Wait. What? He's got babies. Got plastic at the house now. A little different. What? You got babies. You have a plastic in your basement? Oh, I'm sorry. Have you ever seen a dart machine at a bar being corked? If you find one, send it to me.

I'll get it. Eat your shorts. Eat your shorts. This isn't camp on a lawn, JJ. We hold you in our hearts. And when we think about you, it makes me want to fart. This thing came apart.

Yes. Shout out Donkey Lintz. Littler taking shrapnel. I have a friend from Ohio. Centerville, Ohio. Who's a professional dart player. And by professional, he goes to the tournaments every weekend.

And the reason why I know that those people aren't hammered is because he is the only one hammered at these tournaments. That's where I go. Yeah, he makes it to the semifinals just one game away from a big bag, and he's upset that he's the only one that's drunk. Yeah. Everybody's supposed to be drunk. It turns out the sober guys, they do beat him

because they can see a little bit clearer. Yeah, seen it firsthand. But he's not playing darts sober, he said. No. No way. So just never going to change it. We're talking thousands of dollars. What would be the best PED for darts?

Got to be Adderall, right? What's the thing that actors take and sometimes when they perform, the blocks that are anxiety? Adrenochrome. Well, that too. The best PED for darts is being curious and not judgmental. Everybody knows that. Allegedly. What did you say, Diggs?

The best is being curious and not judgmental. That's the best PED for darts. Yeah, I think you're right. Littler also is at a disadvantage because sure, they might be drunk, but he's got a grandfather clock hanging between his legs. You're talking about balance. You're talking about leaning forward, leaning back.

You're talking about his podge. A big part of Dargler is how he's a 16-year-old kid. He's a dog, dude. You just kind of, good luck to him. Hey, good luck, Luke. Keep going, man. We might want to skip past that one. He's got a good lean.

That's a big part of it. Came out with three shoes on. Need that. Put 20% of his weight on there. There's no rules. They've never had to make rules before. Luke Lillard's changing again. We'll see what the other competitors say after this run.

Right. But if he's winning at 16, are you kidding me? He's messy. He's messy. When's your prime in the dart world? Is it like tennis where your prime is late 30s? I think he can play until he's 70. This is golf.

How often is this tournament? Once a year. It's the world dart championship. Every year? Yeah, tournament? Once a year. It's the World Dark Championship. Every year? Yeah, every year. I thought it was like the World Cup. Van Gerwen tried it early 30s, so that's where I would. He's got another time.

14 years to his prime. Well, if he keeps smoking those vapes, he might run into a couple problems. Those are highly addictive. Yeah, you should not do that. I saw a commercial where a girl, I believe she was in high school, she missed her high school basketball team's bus because she couldn't find her vape in her locker room. Then she was sitting on the bus bench.

I'm very happy that we weren't during the high school generation and that whole thing. Oh, boy. Me too. Not really the vape's fault, but yeah. Well, it is. Have you not seen the commercial? She could have gone on the bus.

Guess we know what happened to people at Centerville if they missed the bus and AJ was on the team. He was not seen the commercial. If you've not seen the commercial. Guess we know what happened to people at Centerville if they missed the bus and AJ was on the team. He was not happy about it. It seems like there needs to be a little accountability. Kids, you need to stop vaping. They do. Okay, stop vaping. Go back to SIGs.

But if vaping. Amen, brother. Don't do that. Don't do any of that. Once again, we are joking. This is not real life. If vaping, though, say no to drugs. I disagree with all statements being made.

Well, that's why we have that thing. Except for the one where you do tell them to stop vaping. I agree with that statement. And six. Yeah, it'll turn your teeth yellow like British people. Jeez. You got a real hard-on with this, huh, Nick? Yeah, you're really mad about the teeth thing.

You watch Austin Powers too much. I respect good teeth. JJ, you have great teeth. Yeah, I paid a mad about the teeth thing. You watch Austin Powers too much. I respect good teeth. JJ, you have great teeth. Yeah, I paid a lot of money for them. Oh, they're fake? You like those fake teeth? Oh, yeah. You got top and bottom?

How is it? Does it hurt? Yeah, yeah. It didn't hurt, no, but it was definitely an uncomfortability for about a week or so as you get used to it. So what happened? You just had a lisp too because they changed the way your teeth formation is? Or what happened?

A little bit. I did a little bit at the beginning, yeah. But then you learn and figure it all out. It's fascinating. Close your mouth. Some people can't close their mouth anymore. You can close your mouth. Yours look good and natural.

Thanks. I appreciate it. I mean, I think people can definitely tell, but I don't care. I don't know. I don't think I brought it up. I had no idea. Because they got a shape too. They got like real shape to it as well. I feel like that was probably on purpose if I had't care. I don't know. I don't think I brought it up. I had no idea. They got a shape, too. They got, like, real shape to it as well.

I feel like that was probably on purpose, if I had to guess. We had a guy on our team down here who had them, and I always told him, I was like, dude, I've never seen a smile that good in my life. And he was like, yeah, this is the guy. And I was like, oh, I would like to go to that guy. And I did. How long have you had that set right there at Grille? Just over a year.

They look good. Do you have to brush them still? Yeah, they always wipe. No, you got to treat them just like real teeth. That's bullshit. You didn't have them when you played? I had them I think I had them last season. Yeah, I had them last season.

It doesn't, like literally, I can eat anything I can do anything. Apples. Like, there's literally gum. Apples? Born in the cob? Yeah. What happens if you get something in between your teeth and you rub too hard? It'll pop out?

No. Floss. You floss. You brush your teeth. You do everything just like normal. I mean, very expensive. I'm not saying it's not expensive. I mean, he said 20, 30-plus years.

Ooh, 30-plus? Holy shit. So what happens in 30 years? You just have no teeth? Yeah, you just fall off. Well, he said, like, they should last a lifetime, but I don't know if they just haven't done it long enough. Is it like break the ice that game?

Is it like break the ice that game where you hit it and then one of the ones? No, it's a great game. Is that what happens at, like, 30 years? They just pop and that thing just pops off? Or what happens? I have no idea. I'll let you know. When you tackle somebody, we won't be doing

this show 30 years from now. That is... That's the breaking news. That news is broken a long time ago and often. When you tackled, you didn't feel like maybe these things were going to pop tackled you didn't feel like maybe these things were going to pop out whenever they were you didn't feel sturdy no there's a fat so like i

mean we're getting down the road yeah but i've seen a lot of people i've seen a lot of people a lot of players have them yeah because of how expensive it is the guy one of the cool things that he does is he gives you a test run with a it's like a rough draft yeah you come in and you get a trial set but it's custom to your mouth he literally he's like an artist like he literally shapes it forms in your mouth and then you wear it for 24 hours but those ones are like the break the ice game like if i ate apple with those they pop off so uh but it's just so you can see it feel it like do you like this look do you want to alter it and then you go back and get the real thing if you do like it. It's cool. The guy's literally an artist. He just sits there and he

makes sure it all looks right. Then he shows you a mirror and he's like, do you like this? You can change anything you want. It's really cool. You choose your shade because you don't want it to be insanely white where people are like, close your mouth, dude. It would be funny. Look tan, too.

Something about Mary. He gets the big ones. Is it all of them? It would be funny. But you also, yeah. Look, tan, too. Yeah. Something about Mary. Isn't that something about Mary when you get the new one? He gets the big one. Is it all of them? It's all of them except for my molars, yeah. So it's literally like. That's a nice name. Ew.

They look good, dude. Vincent Von T. Yeah. It didn't all look fake. Is it Vincent Von T? Thank you. Brian Harris in Scottsdale. Great doctor, guys.

I'm pleased with Brian Harris. Hey, Doc. Way to go. I say you're a doc even though you do teeth. Hey, where were you playing pickleball, JJ, with that billionaire? With Ryan Smith. Yeah. You guys doing teeth with Brian Harris?

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I mean, I don't want people showing up to our pickleball. You don't need to say the name. That's fine. Which one is it? The Phoenician? You hate the people. No, it's not in Arizona. Have you seen the 50-count mountain on top of AQ's house,

and do you feel more comfortable? Yeah, with that being said, did you see him run 10 miles through your neighborhood yesterday? No, but I heard him talking about his pool being 45 degrees, and I have a tough time believing that because the weather hasn't really been dropping below 45 much this week it's supposed to start but there will be a pool to drop that low it has to be really really cold tomorrow oh yeah what about the 50k i got a cold tub i got a cold tub too i also have a pool my pool is not as cold as my cold tub so i don't you heat that thing like

a normal human but your cold tub is much colder than 45 degrees, is it not? 39? It hovers between 40 and 45. How much colder can it be? You know what the freezing temperature is, AQ? They teach you that at Navy school? My cold tub is at 36. Watch your mouth, Green Berets!

My cold tub's at 36. Your cold tub's at 36? That's impressive. For those wondering, water freezes at 32 and boils at 212. That's exactly right. Every human listening knew that answer. I hope to God. I think the freezing one they do.

I hope so, man. I really hope so. But I do not believe they do. I don't believe that. What is it in Celsius? Zero. Nice. And what?

90. And boiling? 92. Boiling? I don't know. Boiling and what on the 90 92 boiling i don't know boiling for himself 90 gump doesn't know either we're looking for an answer for him zero zero zero it's 100 right what about on the other side up north isn't it zero and 100 i thought it was like what makes sense if it was 100 but i thought that was the whole point like they're always like we're we're we're not dumb We just made a real number. Zero and 100. It is 100.

Would be smart, which is much smarter than what we do. 32 and 200, whatever the fuck it is. 212 is a good number. And you know like the Mites and Miles and things? Kilometers. I'm traveling with Gumpy. This is the best. Gumpy's sitting shotgun.

I'm driving. I like to drive. Gumpy, though, sitting shotgun. He's navigator. Sure. He has his maps out with sound on. They go, you're going to take a right in 900 meters. And I heard it.

And he goes, you're going to take a right up here. And in my eyes, I'm like, 900 fucking meters. Okay, so 110 meters is 100 yards. So I'm starting to do like track. I'm like, alright, I need two laps plus an extra 90 yards. It fucked me up. I thought I was turning much sooner. That was a long

way. 900 meters. I just go football fields. I just go, that's nine football fields. That's all I got. Yeah, 400 meters is once around a track. Yeah. Yeah, bingo. Yeah. Thank you. is once around a track. Yeah. Yeah, bingo. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, it is, John. Yes, it is.

Thank you. Anyways, it's imaginary line, too. Yeah. Them and us. Mm-hmm. And we're just not even near the same exact thing. That's imaginary up there? Well, I think in some parts it's not imaginary.

It's real. We're not getting into it. I was going to say. Jeez Louise. I know. Holy shit. Good transition. Are you talking about the border? Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Jay. real we're not getting into it i was gonna say louise i don't know holy shit good transition talking about the border yeah yeah hey jay you guys are all over you guys are all over come on i didn't hear you chirp up yesterday to your friend yeah come on stop them you're the

only one you're the only one that know what the ins and outs of what he was talking about you stuck you could have said hey aaron you and connor are the only two that could have been like well i don't know you know could have been like, well, I don't know. You know, could have done one of those. I mean, even when it was said, I did say, Jesus Christ. I didn't even see that one coming either. Yeah, and AJ was saying, doh, 444, doh, 444. And that's what's weird because Tony brings up the border,

and that's the first time I've heard that happen, and AJ not say, yeah, build the freaking wall. AJ's birthday is coming up. Let's all remember. Careful. See you at DC again. Well, I don't know if he's having his party at DC. Are you doing that? You had one a couple years ago. Birthday party. No, I've never. I actually have been to DC

but never on my birthday. I heard the commander at DC is playing it this year because he got laid off so he's got a little more time for a dust up. The who? The commander's defense coordinator. Yeah.'s got a little more time for a dust-up. The who? The commander's defense coordinator. Yeah. Rolling sleeves up, getting ready for the dust-up. 2.0.

He'd be like, fire fest. How about him doing that interview? Is that? Talk about a little dust-up. There's a little dust-up. He's in Washington. Boohoo. Got fined from his head coach for it. That never happens, does it?

Yeah, it caused some controversy over there. I'm going to promise everybody this. I'm going to start doing more research on everything. So whenever things happen, I know about it. It's going to be tough, though. It's going to be tough. I want to let people know it's going to be tough to add in my life because it's a sports thing.

But I will have to know everything that's coming out of everybody's mouth on this particular program going forward. And JJ, we're thankful for everything that came out of your mouth today. Now, JJ, because it is 2020 for the Vibes, how many people will win $500 when Boston Connor makes one of these basketball shots

into one of these hoops from the stage, JJ? From our friend, Uncle JJ. Connor is shooting it from his spot, so I will give 20. And then if he misses, he gets a second chance at 10. Oh, all right.

Two chances. All right, it's a good setup. Good deal. I like the rules being made here. You can get up. I think you'll be able to shoot from the middle. Is that all right? He can shoot from the middle

so he doesn't break any of these cables? Oh, I mean, it does. It does change a lot of things, but sure, it's Connor. Hey, way to go. We worked it a little bit. I feel pretty safe. Conman cannot hear a single thing

that anybody is saying right now except for us. Thank God, because he looks... I mean, I am so confident right now. You don't think he looks good right now? Here's one of his favorite shirts. What size shirt is that for you? What size is it?

Look at those shoes. There's some thick soles on those shoes. What is going on down there? Killing your shoes. Six foot eight? He hates your shoes. There's some thick soles on those shoes. What is going on down there? Six foot eight. He hates your shoes. Killing your shoes. Back to the mic. How tall are you?

Mark fucking Wahlbergs, JJ. So why don't you wash your mouth? What, do you hate Christianity too, prick? Put him in a tough spot. How about that? Good response. I got nothing for that. I got nothing for that.

John, play defense. This guy's about to give away This guy's about to give away $10,000 And Kyle's like you prick Can't win Can not win on this show Unapologetically faithful Yeah I understand he's got the app

I actually woke up and prayed alongside of him One more Like Connor does to Tim Yeah A lot of workouts. 4 a.m. Could you imagine doing that 4 a.m. workout thing? I don't know how they do that. One guy,

Corey Gregory, the guy that got us to start lunging, which I'll be back in doing after I had this terrible hamstring injury. Had me bedridden for a while. Yeah. He works out every day at 4 a.m. Anytime he starts pitching ideas on what we should do,

I'm like, Bob, you and me are not built the same. I cannot do the 4 a.m. workout. JJ and AJ do, though. These two guys. I walked into... I walked into breakfast one time, and he and his trainer were there. Already done workout, already done with a round of golf, and I was just grabbing my breakfast.

Who's this? Who? this? I felt like a loser. Who? Yeah. Where? At Billionaire's Pickleball. This is that pickleball place? Yeah.

Same country club. Yeah. You can just get up at four and not tell everybody, right? Is that a thing? No. If I'm waking up at four every day, fuck it. They're all lying. I think everyone lies.

Now, to be clear, though, though jj to your point that was back when you were doing like superhero jj what me and aq at the pro bowl no that was that was recently that was that was this year okay well that's the walberg thing for our story about you though how we'll tell it and how we saw it me and aq got obliterated one of the Pro Bowl evenings. Absolutely obliterated. Way too much. Overconsumption for sure. Should not have been served the amount of booze that we were served, but we're at Pro Bowl. Hawaii, Phoenix? Phoenix, Arizona.

Holy shit. Not great. Love the town. Don't think that should be where the Pro Bowl was, but nonetheless, I'm not going to be the one that's going to make those decisions or talk bad about it because I love the city of Phoenix, so I'm not going to say the one that's going to make those decisions or talk bad about it because I love the city of Phoenix. So I'm not going to say. We wake up the next morning.

Oh, fuck. You know, one of those. Let's go get breakfast. I guess they got a buffet down there. So we go down to the breakfast buffet. We need two jugs of water, please. Stat. We're walking in there.

I think like Montana sitting in there a little bit. Nice. Like all of you and me and AQ got sunglasses on. We look fucking horrendous. But we have somewhere to be at 9 a.m., so it had to be a little bit early. We walk out of there still in bad shape. JJ comes walking through the lobby.

Just got done with a workout. Glistening from his thing. Holding shoes, working out. Had headphones in. Was walking 20% walk. And he saw us and we were like, JJ, holy shit. You just got done working out had headphones in was walking you know fucking 20 percent walk and he saw us and we're like jj holy shit you just got done working out yeah we meeting back down here yeah and they just walked off i mean aq look each other we're sacks of shit we are the biggest of all that's that's one thing i i wish i would have done different like those those are some of the

moments where i look back and i'm like you should have just had some drinks with the boys man like you don't have to be so like i i wish i i wish i would have done some of the moments where I look back and I'm like, you should have just had some drinks with the boys, man. Like, you don't have to be so – like, I wish I would have done some of those things different. All right, good. Because we were wondering, should have just – We thought we sucked. Yeah, we were the problem. That's what we need to do. You made them better, JJ.

Let's say this on the other side. I did win the MVP and won a truck of that Pro Bowl. So maybe it was. I drove that truck for 10 years, too. It was a great truck. Wow. Not 10. Not 10.

Couldn't have been 10. AJ's had hitters for 30. A lot. 30? In that red truck? Yeah. When did you graduate from Ohio State? Me?

2006. Okay. So 17 years. Yeah. He's had this thing that says Ohio State Legend. It's a red pickup truck. That's not true. That is true. I've seen it. Never had a personalized plate

in my life. Never. I guess all Ohio State Legends get the same license plate. Is that what it is? O-S-U-L-E-G is what it says. It says Ohio State Legend A-J-H-L-E-G is what it says. That's how it works. It says, Ohio State legend, A-J-H-W-K. Yep.

And guess who? Yeah. I did see a plate that said poop. They let that one slide somewhere, I saw. That's classic D. I like that. D who? I thought they censored it.

Herbie's D? Yeah. JJ does a lot of inside jokes. A lot of inside jokes. That's on me. That's on me. JJ will catch up. Herbie has a guy that is his road dog named D.

And he just gets things done. Not his dog dog? No. Not his dog dog. Ben is kind of slowly taking D's spot. Yeah. Ben is also slowly taking JJ's spot on the internet in 2014. There's some people turning on Ben.

No, they're easy. Oh, yeah. No, there's some people turning on Ben. We can't turn on Ben. Ben's a good boy. I love Ben. I'm just telling you that people are. I'm not one of those people.

If there are people, it's not Ben's fault. No, Ben's a great dog. Yeah. Ben, by the way. I'm telling you are people, it's not Ben's fault. No, Ben's a great dog. Yeah. Ben, by the way. I'm telling you, man, it's a fascinating case study. It should be like a class because people start to love something. So then you're like, okay, people love this. Let's give them a little more of it.

People start to love it a little more. Give them a little more. And then there comes a point where people are like, yeah, maybe you gave us a little too much. So then you're like, all right. It's fascinating, man. And then once people turn, they're turned. They do not like that thing no matter what you do. Ben would, I'm bad.

Yeah. Ben would, I'm bad. You meet Ben one time and you're a lover for life. He's so fluffy. He's the greatest dog I've ever encountered. So well behaved. Like, Valerie is my wife and I's dog that I am, first dog I've ever had a real connection with, Valerie.

Love Valerie. Beaten cancer four times. Another great dog. She's a fucking beast. Four? Four times, yeah. Very expensive. Actually, the whole foundation is how expensive it is. I mean, love this dog. Just turned 11 the other day. Happy birthday.

Happy birthday, Valerie. Good dog. Pitbull, Sharpay mix. She's the best. And I absolutely love her. But if we're in public the way ben's in public like she's gonna be pissed at somebody you know like at some point she's gonna something ben just the most sociable and mature dog of all even senses when like his time is done with a group of people he's like all right i think i'm out of here i'm gonna go over like we're in a hotel lobby

with him in tex Texas the other day. And at one point, he was laying on top of a couch with his ass and back legs off. And there was a group of people, like, scratching him. And then you could tell they wanted to get back to their conversation. But I was like, all right, yep, I'm out of here too. And then he just walks away. Great dog. And if people can hate Ben, I guess they can hate everybody.

Exactly. Oh, yeah. Bingo. That's what we need to know. Because this guy right here hates Ben. He doesn't. No. Yes, you do.

You piece of shit. Yes, you do. I do not. I don't even know Ben. People we know hate Ben. Think about that. Oh, man. He also hates Joe DiNardo, though, too.

Oh, here we go. Joe messed up his tea time. Why, AQ? Why? Thank you, Joe. What about Joe? Either one. Ben and Joe. Joe first. you, Joe. What about Joe? Ben. Ben and Joe.

Start with Ben. Joe didn't mess up my tee time. Rest in peace, Joe. Miss you, Joe. Miss you, Joe. Thank you, Joe. Man. Don't you even think about doing that.

Don't touch him. He's back. Are you trying to smack him in the face? What's that? JJ, this guy created the Doppler. Closer to me. That guy created the Doppler. Closer to me. That guy created the Doppler. Joe DiNardo from Pittsburgh.

Greatest weatherman and meteorologist of all time. Yep. Provided coats for cold children in the winter. War here always. Had an Ianzer accent. Is that Joe in the right picture? That doesn't look like the same guy. Well, that's when he was coaching.

Why does AQ hate Joe? Because AQ's a pig. That is why. AQ asks, what is your problem? What's your problem? What's he doing? What the hell? What is your view on AQ?

He's in the middle of a show, dude. He's on a runner's high. In the middle of a show. What the hell? Get us together. Who is he coaching? The world. We need more Al Weatherman. That's when he he coaching? The world. We need more.

Al Weatherman. That's when he was coaching. Tom Brady. Ever heard of him? Anyways, JJ, Joe DiNardo is from the same exact hometown as AQ Shipley, too. So, like, everybody in Pittsburgh knows Joe DiNardo. So, that's why he's mad. Because he's on the water tower and AQ's not.

Oh! Bingo. That is it. Thank you for pointing that out, JJ. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. All right, now let's talk JT. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. All right, now let's talk about Ben. He's on a water tire.

He's trying to drink out of a water bowl. And all you got to do is... Ben's doing great. Ben's doing great. That's not what you said before the show. At all. No, we can tell you don't like Ben. Just put it out there.

I just said he's getting more air time. He's literally become... Do you have a dog? Do you have a dog? What? Taylor Swift? Taylor Swift's selling out stadiums. I don't know if Big Ben Herbstreet's selling out.

He might be. He could be. Might be. He should if people know. He should ref the Puppy Bowl this year. He might. That's a good idea. Yes.

Thank you. That's a good idea. He had the Chief Happiness Officer badge on at the Rose Bowl. He did. I thought he was going to dump on that grass you guys were eating. He should have. That's the only dog in history. How did the grass taste?

Oh, my God. Yeah, it was actually good. Not kidding. It tasted like a Caprese salad. How nice is that grass? It is unbelievable. You caught a crop earlier today. I'm just saying what it looked like, and the guys were slipping.

But it doesn't mean it doesn't look great. When I was there, there was no slipping. Everything was great. I literally, like, sat. Because also the Rose Bowl for me means something huge. I mean, Rondane and all those guys and everything. It was that the Rose Bowl was the national championship for a kid growing up in Wisconsin. That was the coolest thing.

So I went out there pregame and, like, it was, that stuff is special. What were you like man 20 no uh back then i was just going through an old playlist the other day the song i listened to before that game was no hands uh how about waka Flocka? He had that run, and then he retired, and then he said, I was ass, you rabbit. I just make a lot of money. It's like, Waka, excuse me.

I had a great time with you. Gross. Bangers. Bangers. A lot of them. Then he just retired out of nowhere. Went to a show he had one time. It was the best show I'd ever been at.

He was a DJ. He was getting paid to DJ. So he just played bangers with his bangers included. And then when his bangers came on, he'd get a microphone and then he'd perform and then he'd go back to DJ and play other people's bangers. It was brilliant. It was brilliant. Smart. Awesome. Walk of Floppy, I think, big brain. I think he's

a big brain man. So is Boston. You need to stop with the Benz shit just to put a whole bow on that. Good dog. Great dog. That's not what you've been saying. Didn't say anything. Anything good about him? I have two dogs. They walk

around in our neighborhood. Do I need to worry about them? AQ? They're not on every football telecast. Not since the beginning of December. Whoa! Come on! What do you want them to do? They're not on every football telecast since the beginning of December. Whoa. Jeez Louise. Come on.

What do you want them to do? Are you jealous of a dog? Just like you're jealous of Joe Noro. Well, how does he feel about the president's German shepherd that may or may not have bit a few people? All right. Oh, gosh, man. You just can't let him go.

I'm just trying to talk about dogs. I want to see what he feels about that dog. Does he like that dog that bit people he doesn't like, Ben? Look how good Ben is. He's very nice. Yeah, you're right. What type of dog would make AQ say, that's a good dog? If it's not that, I don't know what it is.

That's a great dog. Oh, heartless. Great dog. Look at the eyes of Ben. I'm a cat guy, though. You're a cat guy? Oh, yeah. You're a cat over dog guy.

We're not going on a walk ever again. Oh! All right, before we get out of here. I just go on runs anyways. It's okay. Oh! Oh! Yeah, I did the three and a half mile run up the mountain the other day.

Did you do that one? No, I just ran to Old Town Scottsdale and back yesterday. Oh! 10 miles, motherfuckers! By the way, ran past your house, didn't see you out. That was in the gym. What about Ron? Did Ron just build a house over all of your houses?

Did that live money, though? Yeah, he's up the mountain. What a neighborhood you guys are in. Yeah, unreal. It's a real bummer that AQ's boy isn't going to learn from Phelps now. I'm bummed out. I'm bummed out too. AQ's like, hey Phelpsie. That's right.

Hey Phelpsie, don't need your cold tub, you bum. I got a pool, full pool. People have been doing this wrong the whole time. Just turn off the heater. All of a sudden, I got a better cold tub than Phelps does. Good on you. AQ, thanks for bringing a little edge Smart guy

We needed that Alright JJ, you said 25 people, $500 $20 for the first one We are the tightheads We are the tightheads Mighty, mighty tightheads Mighty, mighty tightheads Oh yeah Real good Mighty, mighty, tiny. Mighty, mighty, tiny. Hoo, ha, oh yeah.

Hoo, ha, real good. All right, you going to make it? You can't miss it now. 25 people, $500. Hey, Connor, see that shot? You make that shot. You can make that shot, coach. Connor, remember how short your arms are.

It's Coach Yost. Coach Yost. Hey, Connor, when I was 12 years old, what's that sound say? We have Coach Yost. Coach Yost. Hey, Connor. When I was 12 years old, what's Denzel say? We have Coach Yost on this show. My mom and my dad died. My dad died. He had 12 brothers and sisters. You had 12 brothers and sisters?

Absolutely not. Eight. Yeah, 12 sounds better. 12 sounds better. That movie's a legendary movie. All time. It was like... Ryan Gosling, Liability I think it's still in my top Top three probably movies

Should be And I remember going to see it at the movie theater And where they cut the thing was right at Remember the tit Never forget that The stub He just said remember the tit Gosling was a liability, though.

Yeah, he was. Yow! Not going to do the whole thing. Do it, Tony. Why not, Tony? We're paying tribute to remember the 10. Well, I was going to do it. Yow!

Well, he's getting beat. Beat like you stole something, Mr. Bosley. Stay out of this, girl! Boom. Yow! And he does it two more times, yeah. Good movie. And what happened, too?

Petey went in and locked it down, forced fumble. Ghost is right. How'd you feel about Remember the Titans, D-Butt? Great movie. I did think it was, like, maybe the most accurately depicted, like, what race relations can do in football. Yeah. You know? I think it told the true story.

That's why I think I enjoyed it so much. I think it was good, man. Less sad. Strong sad. That's what we could do as a country is instead of making military mandatory, make it football and locker rooms mandatory. Got to strap up, too. Need at least three Oklahoma drills out of everybody.

Bingo. You know what I mean? Lifetime. There could be tiers of who's... We're not going to throw some random software engineer into an Oklahoma drill with A.J. Hawk at 17. Why not? Well, because A.J.'s looking to kill software

engineers just trying to learn some stuff about life. Yeah, exactly. Can't have that. That's not a good thing. Some teams won't even call it that. A.J.'s tier one. A.J.'s tier one. He's going against Marines. He's going against... Did you take any plays off of practice, JJ? Of course not. Did you take G days

or no? I preferred not to, no. I was a guy who I felt like I got rusty if I took a day off. At the end, yeah, but I had to practice. You know, AJ and Kuhn, you know, Kuhn for the Green Bay Packers?

Yeah. Seven straight, how many years? I believe, yeah, eight, almost nine maybe with them. Nine years together. Middle linebacker, fullback. Okay, practice drills. Neither one of them would ever say like, hey, today we're going to dance. Like, hey, let's just do that.

So for nine straight years, they won helmet to helmet every single day because neither one of them would say like, hey, it's just do that. So for nine straight years, they won helmet to helmet every single day because neither one of them would say, like, hey, it's Thursday, week 15. Maybe we just kind of wouldn't. That's why they're great. That's why they're great. Oh, yeah. That's why CTE is a problem. Well, AJ's mouth has no pain.

JJ, were you roommates with AB at Central Michigan? Not roommates, but, yes, we were freshmen together. Keep in touch? I haven't spoken to him in a while. I haven't spoken to him in a while. I haven't spoken to him in a while. Check it. Guy was unbelievable. He's very good.

He shook the shit out of me on a punt return. Boy, I had no idea he could be that explosive. I mean, he was. I didn't get a hint. I mean, we're talking flag football. Not even close. Not even close. And he had three legs.

Literally the first day on campus, every single person there knew that guy was going to be a great football player. It was insane. So fast. So quick. Good football career, A.B. Way to go, A.B. So he's still available. I don't know.

I don't know if anybody's going to sign him. Good rap career, too. He's got a couple hits. It's going. How about on the stage, Ray? Oh, yeah. Snag. Still got the hands. Put that shit on. How about on the stage, Ray? Oh, yeah. Snag. Still got the hands.

Put that shit on. How about you put a ball in the hoop for 25 people to win $500? J.J. Watt, coming out of your pocket, 30 people, $500 if Boston Connor can drain this shot here for the people. I don't know. I don't know what's happening here. I really don't. What's that? Trying to figure out what's going on

with this number. I mean. Well, it's easy. $500 to 35 people. It's fired at 20. It's just gone through the roof. I don't know what's happened. What is the number? He's going to miss. What's the number?

What's the number, though, just so we got it right? 20 for the first one. 10 for the second one. Oh, okay. We're at 20. Measly 20 people winning $500. All you got to do is make this shot, Con Man. $10,000 will go out of J.J. Watt's pockets into somebody else's.

20 people on the start of this 2024. Why not make them a little bit happier? Why not drain a shot for the people? Con Man! What the fuck was that? All right. Drop it down. We got a second shot.

Second shot. It's J.J.'s. That was great. Another opportunity. Another opportunity. That was embarrassing. Hey. That was truly embarrassing.

This is J.J.'s money. He's not the company's money. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus ball.

Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Nice. That's the 20 ball. Yep.

That's the 20 ball. You got to use the same ball. Yeah. You got to use the 20 ball. Yeah. Yeah. 20 ball. That's a 20 ball. You got to use the same ball. Yeah, you got to use the 20 ball. Yeah, yeah. 20 ball. 20 people. $500. Got a bonus ball from the gods of the Thunderdome.

Connor. Oh, my fucking brickberry. That's a bonus ball. Dude, this is a tough look, man. You got to find a different sport for you. Jeez. Yikes. It's 2020 to find a different sport for you. Jeez. It's 2024, the vibes. 2024, the vibes.

Well, yeah, but you guys remember on the Rose Bowl cast when he started saying about Burnley? So I'm not exactly a best friend of Boston Connor at the moment. What did you say about Burnley on the Rose Bowl cast? What did you say there? What did I say? What did I say? That the ref should get relegated like Burnley?

I don't think I said anything on the Rose Bowl cast. Yeah. So sorry if I'm not the biggest fan of short-arm mullet head over there. the ref should get relegated like Burnley? I don't think I said anything on the Rose Bowl cast. Sorry if I'm not the biggest fan of short-arm mullet head over there. Short-arm mullet head. I don't hate it. I don't remember saying anything bad about Burnley on the cast. Do you remember anything you said on the show? That's a problem I'm finding

myself in. It's a problem I'm finding myself in. Afterwards, you go on the internet and you find out i didn't mean it you know that's not how i said it yeah also i know what the issue was with the first two shots but you got bill standing over staring at you like that it's kind of tough to see it's not just bill it's it's more so the fact that he just laid out how to kill Pat this morning. That kind of freaked me out. That is what got to me. Because Pat explains what his feelings while he's taking out the trash.

And Bill was like, no, no, they wouldn't kill you like that. The way they kill you is. Just the way that he's standing over like that. Look at him just standing in the corner. Just locked in. Look at that view that Connor has as he's shooting this basketball I'm going to shoot on this hoop What do you think JJ? You think you're making that?

Connor, Connor, go put those shoulder pads and a helmet on And a free throw is for 10 people 10? 40, 40, 30 30 people How many free throws? Alright, well you still got to make it So shoulder pads and helmet

Shoulder pads and helmet. One free throw. One free throw. 30 people. Nice. Let's go. Come on, Connor. Strap him up.

Hey, last time you put those on, a guy went and jumped into the league and what, got eight sacks now? Yeah. Number one team in the NFL. Those shoulder pads might be past greatness. Yeah, Keith Van Nooy. People forget. And there's Bill Stoker in the photo.

That's crushing it. Shout out to Van Nooy. Oh, that's a Permian Panthers helmet. Oh, my gosh. That kind of spin. That Jason Street? That Jason Street over there? Mm-hmm.

Oh, remember the Titans and Friday Night Lights? Why is that show not more critically acclaimed? That show was incredible. Everybody's haters, bro. Who cares about the critics? Boston Corner, if you make one free throw here, 35 people will win $500.

I don't know if the helmet's going to hit the ball or the chest pads. Shoulder pads are going to be... Should he strap it? I think he drains it. the helmet's going to hit the ball or the chest pads? Shoulder pads are going to be... Should you strap it? I think he drains it. And also the shoulder pad. Yeah, the shoulder pad straps. Get them out of your way.

The shoulder pad straps. Have some strategy, bro. That's a great helmet. Where'd you guys get that? I think it's just tape. Yeah, it's printed off. Yeah, I think the Colts brought us a helmet It's part of Gertie's Halloween costume Decal's falling off a bit

There we go Look at you, you look That's because he hit so hard Hey Decal's came off Let's go Let's go, Con Man Good flow out

Yeah, you got good ranks on that mullet Yeah You look good Austin Reeves One bottom strap, nice strap I like the swag Hold on, Con Man Yeah, you got good ranks on that mullet. Yeah. You look good. Austin Reeves. One bottom strap, nice strap. I like the swag. Hold on, con man.

JJ Watt is going to say that 40 people. Is that what you said, JJ? Right? This is ridiculous. He looks like he's doofus. Yeah, no way he's going to say that. He's got a helmet on, shoulder pads. There's no way. You look fit as fuck, though, in the pads.

Yeah, you do look good, dude. I don't even know how to shoot a free throw with these on. Yeah, and he didn't do high school basketball, so he didn't do free throw practice after every single day, you know, like A.Q. Shipley did. Fun fact, those are the Maniacs pads and helmet. Talking about Darius Leonard? Mm-hmm.

No. What do you think? 40. Mark it. 40. 40. Oh, wow. 40 people, $500 in this 2024.

All con man has to do is bury a free throw with his helmet on and his shoulder pads. J.J. Watt. Am I good? Yeah. You're great. Let's go. You look good, though.

You look good doing it. Tackle the football. Tackle the big football. Tackle the big football. I can't hear you. I can't. Let's go. He said tackle the big football. Tackle the big football. Tackle the big football. I can't hear you. I can. Let's go. He said tackle the big football.

Tackle the big football. 40 people, $500 because Con Man comes through. Way to go, Conner. Hey, JJ. Woo. That's 100% good guy. Yeah. 20% luck.

15% whoa. You know what I mean? A lot of percent luck. A lot of percent luck there. Oh, he said all luck there. Who cares? The outcome is the outcome. We're in a results-oriented business.

And the results of what you just did, 40 people, $500 from JJ. What all you got to do is repost this, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay you digitally. We can't thank you enough. JJ, great work today, pal. Great work, JJ. Almost two hours. You lost 20 grand.

This is amazing. It's awesome. Love it. Love it. I love it. Every week, guys. It's so cool. Thanks.

See you later. Hey, thank you, JJ. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Wall. Thank you, JJ. Football. It's awesome. Football is fantastic. We're about to hit a glorious phase of football

as the playoffs and national championship are right around the corner. That's A.J. Hawk. He has won both a Super Bowl and a college football national championship. Damn! Wow! How'd you do it, A.J.? What do you think has really caused you to have that championship mindset, both at the college level and at the professional level?

Talk about good timing, good luck. Show up to a good squad when you're a freshman and win a national championship and play with Aaron Rodgers. You'll get a Super Bowl. Okay, so you personally, though, what was your mindset every single day whenever you got a chance? What are we doing? What are we trying to do right now?

Are we buying time for something? Trying to learn. No. Trying to grow the game, brother. Guy's trying to ask you a couple questions here, for Christ's sake. Jesus. I mean, we're in January football, okay? This is championship football time. You're the king, brother. Guy's trying to ask you a couple questions here, for Christ's sake. Jesus, I mean... We're in January football, okay?

This is championship football time. You're the king of this. You've won in both. Yeah. National championships on Monday. Heisman finals. Can't ask this guy anything. What is your problem? You don't have to get offended all the time. No problems. How did you

get to this point in your life where you have no problems? When you wake up in the morning as a man who's been a college football national champion and a Super Bowl champion, how do you every single day handle that type of pressure and take it into every single day of your life? I mean, didn't you guys say it multiple times? 50% luck, 2% sweat, 20% football. 60% lifting weights. 25% tying your shoes.

That whole gimmick. 3% what? That's 157%. You know what I do disagree with when coaches say, give it 110%. I'm like, no, then I'll give it 111% if this is fairyland. If this is fake world. You can give 100%.

Do not tell me 110 because we will continue to go up and up. All right, if we're just making up numbers now, sweet. I'm going to go 114, actually. How about that? I'm right in your face. Everybody else going 110? Ooh, sorry about it. Well, we're going to go 114.

Well, welcome to 115%. That's what I'm doing right here. I do appreciate that you get so upset about that you know i do i do like that you know give it your all and a little bit more well that's not possible then i didn't get my all you know what i mean exactly is that what you're saying yeah like super sabers you know you guys have run like 20 half gassers guys in the middle of the pack in the last one he finishes 19 30 yards in front of everybody else everybody wants to kill the guy so i actually because I was normally

dying during every cardio session I've ever been a part of. If you make it on time, I was proud of you. But the way you go about doing it, there is an etiquette. And there is like a kind of a fringe. Yelling, super savers! They start yelling to a couple guys.

If you're going to be that guy, you got to be that guy from sprint one. Agreed. Don't be that guy, you got to be that guy from sprint one. Agreed. Don't be out there sprint 18, 19, 20, and now you're a hero. Hated that. Yeah. Extra effort at the beginning all the way through. Way to go.

That's who you are. Yeah. Well, I'm dying over here. Okay. Thanks for saving it. Hope you're happy. We're not getting out of here at the same time. Also, do you give minimal effort all the time?

Yeah, what's that? And then only need it at the end? Because how you do anything is how you do everything. Then're not getting out of here at the same time. Also, do you give minimal effort all the time? Yeah, what's that? And then only need it at the end? Because how you do anything, it's how you do everything. Then those thoughts just start going. Everybody's gassing. All of a sudden, this guy, big-time asshole. Happy to hear that wasn't you, AJ. AJ gave his all. Never more, though, because he actually gave his all. That's right. Talks to table. It's here. Speaking of all giving, at Boston Corner,

you just won 40 people $500. That is all giving, and I never do that. How come? Sometimes I just don't have it, you know. But today I can feel it in my plums that I had this one. And next to you, Ty Schmidt. He's an owner of a football team that has, like, maybe the best quarterback in the NFL for the last, like, six weeks.

He's been giving it his all. A little bit more? Well, there's a guy who you could maybe say is giving a little bit more than his all wow who's that jordan love how does he do that though if you give your all how do you give more because you just gave all you're at zero left well because a lot of people were saying that his all was really only like maybe like a 95 out of 100 but as we're finding out his all might be like 105 out of 100 i don't know how's possible, but he's been doing it for the last eight weeks. So if you do the math there, 95 to 105, he's actually given 110.

He really is. Wow. He really is. So he's the one. That's who we're talking about, AJ. Thank you for bringing that up. Let's go. Congrats to Jordan Love for being the one.

One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys tone digs his ear tone. We need to figure out who's going 100 and who's going 14. Bingo, my friend. And keeping it 100. That's a bowl game strategy. How'd you do in bowl season?

Bowl season was great. Bowl season's always great. You won a lot of games. Yes. I don't know my exact record, but. Gumpch, did he win in bowl season? Should we take what he's saying seriously here for the playoffs? Tony always crushes bowl season.

That's his go-to. Tony Bowles. Tony Bowles. Tony Bowles. Washington still 4.5 point dogs. I believe that was the initial line that was released as soon as the game was announced pretty much or as soon as it happened. Now it's moved to 5. I guess it has moved

to 5. It's the over-under. Yeah, what is the over-under? 55.5 I believe. Washington getting 5 against his Michigan team. Now, I will say, watching Michigan live was fantastic. Let's go football team. And I've never really picked Michigan to win any game. As I see this line, I'm confused.

And Michigan people are going to say, oh, no shit. Even though yesterday I spoke for 30 minutes about Michigan's real deal. Rather glowingly. And I've been underappreciating and undervaluing that team all year, which I apologize. At one point, I thought Rutgers was going to beat this Michigan team. They were hot, though. Rutgers was playing good ball. Yeah, they certainly were.

But Michigan's still Michigan is what they proved in that particular game. And now I see that five next to Washington, and I'm like, that's tasty. That is it. A lot of points. How come I'm doing it Washington, and I'm like, that's tasty. That is it. A lot of points. How come I'm doing it? Why am I this asshole, AJ? Why do I keep doubting this Michigan team?

I don't understand it, especially after what I just saw them do. First overtime, we're better than you. Just take it down, score, we'll get a stop, it's over. Like, that's a dominant performance by a team in a massive game against the greatest of all time, and Nick Saban, it's like, scheme great, players great, maturity great, toughness great. great everything about them is great they're five-point favorites i'm like washington's getting fucked here why do i feel like this aj i don't know it's that run though we were standing the end zone like what it that run is so it's such a good run look at like the

patience and the confidence right here like he's like of course i'm not getting tackled on the two just spinning out of it just seeing that run from 15 yards away in the back of the end zone, I was blown away at his, in the moment, just his calm presence and how he was running. It was really cool to see. Yeah, I love Blake Corham. Especially after learning more about his story and then the pictures of his broken nose.

And then you see him size-wise. It is like the way he carries himself and the way he plays is not like an undersized running back. He plays like a big guy. Goal line, everything. And you see what Austin Eckler's been able to do. And it's hard to just make a comparison because they're both kind of shorter than what you would normally expect at that particular position.

It's like Austin Eckler has a lot of success, a lot of similar qualities. This dude's very explosive. He leads our team. Our offensive line's fantastic. J.J. McCarthy's a dog. Always has been. Washington, though. This team's very explosive. He leads our team. Our offensive line's fantastic. J.J. McCarthy's a dog. Always has been. Washington, though, this team's really good. They are.

They're very, very good. Is it because they got a little more flash? Who? Washington. They don't think the steak sizzles too much? I'm saying when you were saying, you know, I'm thinking about going Washington here. Is it because they got a little more flash?

They can just – they drive – I mean, we played the Clips. There were zero of those type of plays that Washington was pulling off. And granted, that is because Michigan and Bama's defenses are both unbelievable. But there were no throws like that. There just weren't. Will that be against Michigan's defense? Exactly. Sticky coverage. But Michigan also has not faced a high-octane passing attack

like this all year. I mean, Marvin Harrison Jr., sure, but, like, no one in the Big Ten is throwing football like that. Yeah, but they also have a deep line. It's nine deep. True. And Washington won Joe Moore award. Washington got a great offer.

Yeah, so that offensive line versus that, I think that's the matchup. They got it right. They did. They got it right. They did. Thank you, Coach. Good job, committee. Got it right. They did get it right. I saw a lot of Florida State people still mad,

wanting to kick me off game day. Those people suck. They didn't watch the bowl game? 63-3 is tough for you to talk. Can't get beat by 60 in your bowl game. But they're saying, people, noobs are saying that, we have a bunch of opt-outs. It's like, well, that's a whole other conversation then,

that your program has a bunch of opt-outs in other programs that are, like for it, don't want to say it, but last year, Bryce Young, number one overall pick, projected number one overall pick. Everybody knew he was number one overall pick. He's undersized. What's that mean? Well, he might get injured. Plays in bowl game.

It isn't playoffs. Will Anderson, number three overall pick, plays. Why? Because they feel like they have to for Bama. Even though we didn't make the playoffs, we have to for the good of our program. We get to for the good of our program. And that's all messaging from Saban, by the way, to the team and everything. Now, I understand the business decisions.

I respect it. I appreciate it. I understand it. But teams like Georgia got guys playing that have money on the line. Teams like Bama have players playing that have money on the line. You had 20-some people opt out. Maybe it's because you're at the beginning of the developing of the program under Norvell, and maybe it's not fair to judge that whole thing.

But also, like, real loud, those fans. Yeah. Saying real terrible things about, like, our team deserves this. We're getting screwed, which a lot of us were like, yeah, Ken. I mean, it sucks that this is the way it is. And if I was on the team or my boy was on the team, I would certainly be pissed off. But then you just get fucking right in the mouth.

63-3, it's tough afterwards. That's why on game day I was like, what was the score? The amount of death threats that the guy two down from me, Kirk Herbstreit, was getting over the last couple. His family was getting. All of us at game day, because obviously we're SEC, SBN, even though ESPN has a great relationship with the ACC.

A pretty big business with the ACC and that whole thing. It's like, they're saying terrible things, and then you just get bodied by a team that couldn't even beat the team that was in the spot. It's like, that's tough. That's a tough look for Florida State. Well, and the you just get bodied by a team that couldn't even beat the team that was in the spot. It's like, that's tough. That's a tough look for Florida State. Well, and the other thing is, too, like this wasn't, you know,

the announcement of the Final Four happens, and then a week later they play. Like it was a month of these people saying that. And then for it to end in a 63-3 route after a month of talking shit, it's just very difficult for them. They got it right. Yeah, I think so too. That was clear.

Overtime in the one game. Yes. And then the nail-biter comes down to the last play in the other one. And then now we got like a real matchup of good versus good everywhere on the field. Lucky to be here. Lucky to be here. Pumped about it.

Settle it on the field in Florida State, but we did. We don't undefeated. We don't undefeated. Well, you no longer have an undefe settled it on the field in Florida State, but we did. We weren't undefeated. We weren't undefeated. Well, you no longer have an undefeated season on the resume of Mike Norvell of Florida State because you lost by 60 to Georgia. You know, like that is a, that's a lot. And

I heard Joey Galloway, he was talking about how the players, you know, the guys that wanted to play for the opt-outs, that was their opportunity. It was a bowl game. A lot of eyes on them. They wanted that to do that. I'm like, Joey, ain't nobody talking about playing in that game. If you're going for a state side. You know, you're actually telling people you were one of the opt-outs.

No, I was one of the opt-outs. I didn't play. That's why. You guys lost by 60? No, not me. I didn't play in that game. Somebody show me a clip of you. No, no, no. Different McAfee. That's not me.

I opted out. I'll go to the NFL. You didn't go to the NFL until two years after. No. What? You were talking about the same game? Not finals, I'd say. Wait.

I didn't hire an agent. I came back. Definitely had an injury then. I think I definitely did. Oh, yeah. I had a strained hand. I mean, Orville was like next year. Yeah, for sure.

Second play. 60 points in a bowl game. That's tough. It's tough. In the Orange Bowl. You can also argue Bo Nix, right? He's a guy that wasn't in the playoffs. He decided to play. That's messaging, like you said.

Yeah. Dan Lanning. It is. Say messaging. How do you do it? Now, granted, if any of them get hurt, it's going to hurt the program. That's going to hurt the program long term. It's going to hurt a lot of things. Instead, they've all played. They did it.

Now, what will Florida State do next year? We assume they'll be great. Can't wait to see what you do next year, Florida State. Go get it, 7-0. That season starts in Ireland for them. Oh, nice. Yep. Versus Northwestern.

Notre Dame? Who are they playing? No. Clemson? Got to be Notre Dame, right? Ducane? No? It's not Ducane? No. It's not Ducane.

Florida? Miami? Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech. Good football. That's a great matchup. They ended the year very well. Haynes, good player.

They dominated their bowl game. What's the Irish roots situation? What's going on there? I think they love football. Yeah. Fan base. Just bigger fan base. That's a real? I think they love football. Yeah. Fan base. Just bigger fan base. That's the real matchup.

Hmm? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm kind of like AJ. I stay in the moment, so I have to look forward to next season. That's the real matchup in Ireland, Florida State, and Georgia Tech. August 24th. Well, why'd you say Georgia Tech like that?

I mean, who wins the last time somebody said Georgia Tech, period? Calvin Johnson. Exactly. All right. All right. Tech, period? Calvin Johnson. Exactly. Already in the hall. Roman Reigns. Roman Reigns on that Calvin Johnson team. Baddest oose. He absolutely was.

They're on the up. Presley Hart on the up. They are on the up. They had a great day. Fire coach, new coach comes in, interim coach comes in. Quarterback continues, just balls. They start playing well. They win a bowl game.

They're going to be in Ireland. That's kicking off the season i think isn't it august 24th that's where college game day is gonna be there oh that's gonna be sweet well notre dame was there this i've been in ireland one time it was the least nice place i've ever been in my entire life i actually just heard that has turned a little bit shoot from someone who's just like america now dude you you want to know what relations are like with the United States of America for a country? Drop me right in the fucking middle of it because I am the biggest, dumbest looking American on earth.

They will treat me exactly how they feel about the United States. I did not know we, Ireland hated. I mean, Ireland is not a big fan of the dumb Yankees, I don't think. You know what I mean? Other places I thought would hate me, come in lad yeah it was really nice ireland boy they fucking hated me and the whole fox you had similar experience oh yeah whole family was just trying to get a pint at a random bar and they all looked at us and said no no no you guys got to get out of here and that happened multiple multiple times to me too they were they were pointing over my head at the bar that i was at to serve people behind me yes i'm like what the fuck i got your guys's money and

hey you're going back though can't wait august it's going eight zero right foxy too i mean if a bunch of foxies walk in the bar you know and you're from ireland and all these cool looking americans walk in and plus the dad walks in and you know he's about to drink your bar dry it's like fuck these people yeah but you thought they would have maybe a little respect for that dad true didn't even get a chance to tell him this guy's been drinking beers starting at five o'clock every day for the last 50 years you guys should love him over here i will say the irish are an entertaining bunch yeah holy shit. Love booze. Love booze. They did. And they have these, Patrick McAfee's my name, which is why I thought maybe it'd be nice.

I thought there'd be a chance whenever I show my ID, I'm like, welcome home. Great to have you. That was not the case. They got these fat fucking fingers. I got a little bit of it too. Oh, yeah. They got some fat. Because I thought I was eating them a lot.

I thought I was getting in a fight basically everywhere that I went. So I started eyeballing who. Like, all right, what's this going to be? Some paws. Fat fucking hands. I'm like, it's going to be a heavy mitt, I think. Oh, yeah. Sausage.

I just want you to know, you go to your other home, open arms, my friend. I welcome you in. Yeah, they have to, though. Grazie. Prego. Can't wait to get back to Ireland. Yeah, me too. Can't wait. What's that Ireland. Yeah, me too. Can't wait.

What's that, AJ? I can tell. I'm excited for you to get back to Ireland. The best part is you really, I mean, you don't really have anything from here until August. So that's kind of the next thing. Yeah, all eyes are on Ireland after the national championship. Of course.

All eyes are on heading back to Ireland. You start prepping. For Ireland? Two weeks. Two weeks weeks or what how long you go yeah that's a whole nother thing i guess how long are they gonna set up another show just a day before the actual game day show and just come out of nowhere you know kind of like what happened out there past do one in london just for fun just running through london was a fun that place was fun i enjoyed playing over there like meeting the people now the whole playing an actual game over there sure i don't think anybody really enjoys that but can't wait to get to ireland florida state georgia tech will they go undefeated again wow would florida state go undefeated again we'll find out when we get to ireland

august 24th 2024 let's go 24 2024 I met the I think I met like The board of directors For Visit Ireland He's gonna love What I just said there Yeah

You know what I mean Well that's on him Hey turn around Enemy We're just Observing and reporting I went to the Guinness factory

That was cool Where's that Galway No it's Dublin Sweet Yeah it's Dublin. Sweet. Yeah, it's in Dublin. It actually has a lease of like $1 a year for like 400 years or so. Not a bad deal.

Great businessman, Guinness. Arthur Guinness. Is that his name? Artie Guinness. Artie J. Artie J. Guinness. Wow. Artie J. Guinness.

I got a certificate that I can pour pints perfectly from the Guinness people. That felt really good. That was nice. Kissed the Blarney Stone? I did go. I saw a blind guy. Oh. That was sightseeing.

That was awesome. How was he? That was my big takeaway. What's that? Wait, wait, wait. You saw a blind guy walking around? He was what seeing? At the Blarney?

Well, I assume that's what he was doing, going to the Blarney Stone to try to get his vision back. That's what the Blarney Stone does? Some people say, yeah. Everything I read is that people pee on it. Do it now, for sure. I still kiss that.

Spit on it. What? I don't think you're able to do that because I think they protect it. To get to it, though, you've got to walk up some really uncomfortable castle stairs. Tight quarters. It is beautiful over there. There are cliffs of moor I saw on the other side of town. It's down near Galway, I think.

Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful sights. When the rain comes, it does come. But that's why the grass is so damn green. Yeah, we tried to go see those. It was completely foggy. side of town it's down near galway i think beautiful absolutely beautiful sights when the rain comes it does come but that's why the grass is so damn green yeah we tried to go see those it was completely foggy so we couldn't even do that it was foggy when we got there as well we were told to wait for like 32 minutes or 35 minutes it will change it did it was beautiful we got up there then it came back we got to get down from here yeah there were certain issues there county cork beautiful town yep gorgeous country i mean they hated me from one side to the other.

There was no... It's weird. Was it a tiny town for St. Patrick's Day, which they do the night before, leading into the parade in the morning, and then the parade is kind of like the end of St. Patrick's Day. Ooh, I like that. So you do it like, this is the place that I went to.

I don't know what it's always like, but I was pumped to be here for St. Patrick's Day. That was the nicest crowd, I think, St. Patrick's Day. Everybody's got to celebrate. Can't wait to get back there. Let's go, Ireland. Let's go, Ireland. Circle the calendar.

What's that, AJ? Circle the calendar. Is that where they have it? You guys ever seen the statue of the dude who's laying down, and his meat and his mouth are rubbed off because, I guess, for some reason, this guy does, if you rub your meat on him, it'll make you get pregnant. You ever seen it? It's all worn down.

I don't think it's Ireland, though. No, that is Italy or France, and it is for women, and they go there if they want to get pregnant. They grind it a little bit, and you can see it's worn down. They grind in statues, dongs? Yeah, the statues dong actually is now gold, and the rest of it's worn down. They're grinding statues' dongs? Yeah, the statues' dong, actually. Face and mouth, too. Is now gold, and the rest of it's like the old.

So some people just grind it saying, hey, I'd like to get pregnant. Other women are like, you know what? I'm fully servicing this thing with a mouth on there. Maybe. I don't know. That's what you were saying. Not me. I don't know anything.

I just learned it. I'm saying what's worn down. I think the mouth and the meat are both worn down because people sit there and they grind on it and they say, oh, here we go. This dude's going to get me pregnant. This doesn't feel exactly real. The mouth part is a rock addition. The meat part is real.

The meat actually on the statue is now golden and the rest of the statue is old greenish color. Polished. It's polished on the meat. There it is. Polished. That's the word for it. I just sent it in. Yeah, there it is. He's got polish. Look at polished on the meat. There it is. Polished. That's the word for it. I just sent it in.

Okay. Yeah, there it is. He's got polished. Look at his chin and nose. Looks like he peed his pants. We zoom in on this. It is. Chin and nose.

Dude looks like a guy who's been drinking for 80 years. Cemetery statues eroding because women can't stop rubbing. It's lucky penis. Yeah. And that's not this. Oh, mouth is pretty. Oh, and a nose. That's a purple nose.

That's not for. Oh, he's a booze? Yeah, he's a booze hound. Can't have sex without a little foreplay. How about AJ gets this picture sent to him? That's not true. And he goes, let's see what other parts of my fingers look good. All right, let's go check them off.

That's exactly what he did. That's why he looked cheeky. That guy gets real freaky with the chin. That's how he died. He got a little smile on his face, too. How could you not? The whole world's coming to ride this guy. He doesn't have to do anything. Congratulations, statue boner guy on his face, too. How could you not? The whole world's coming to ride this guy. You don't have to do anything.

Congratulations, statue boner guy. Good work, statue. You touch it, you're pregnant. That's how it works. We need some numbers on that. I want percentages. A hundred. We need ESPN Next Gen stats to look into that.

Yeah, and they need to tell us if we should go for it or not. Bingo. You're going to go. How old you are, how far is the travel? What's the line like? With our analytics, ESPN analytics is telling you you need to go. Is anyone sanitizing it in between ladies?

The Blarney Castle, they did that. They had somebody that was wiping it down that worked there, which was very nice. Part of it before you spit on it first, and then you get on it. On the guy? We'll move on. Now is the time to get better at football. Amen.

What are we talking about here? What's happening? Whole system just went down? No, no, no. This is a big deal. Before DB, I apologize. Luke Littler is about to make his entrance at the Alexandra Palace in London. We sent in a request for him to be on the show at this exact moment.

His people responded and said, mate, he's in the game. He's throwing darts, mate. They got him at an end of a walkway, not a locker room. But the place is going bizarre for Luke Littler. He shaved his face. He's locked in. How many people are there? Thousands.

Thousands. Hundreds. What do they play? What game do they compete in? Cricket? Yeah, 5-0-1, 3-0, whatever it is. 5-0-1. 4 could be true.

I know they're going for 180. That's triple. Triple. That was 180. Triple. Hattie Power. That's gamblers. D one age Triple Yep Hattie Power That's Gomblers Dapping up all the guys

It's like a UFC fight night It is This is my trainer Thank my trainer This is my lad from school Thanks bruv I thought those were all the people he beat That's my uncle

Luke Littler The Nuke Luke Luke Littler Luke Hey those nukes are guided aren't they Oh yeah Cheerleaders He's got Goldberg Pyro Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke. Hey, those nukes are guided, aren't they? Oh, yeah.

Cheerleaders, he's got Goldberg, Pyro. Breathe it in, Luke. Breathe in the Pyro like you're Goldberg. It's electric. Handshakes, daps up. 501, they got it. Good daps. That's a lot different atmosphere than playing in a pub.

Imagine playing up there on the stage with those people all behind you. Look at his case. Is that water in there? What do you think he got? Coke. That's one of the Coke products. Oh, yeah. Fanta, maybe?

Yeah, Fanta. Yeah, he said kebab. Oh, this guy's a licker. Can we turn the sound up? They're going to give us a strike for sure. What's the pin on there? Boom. Just there.

Yeah, he ain't 16. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's one three major this year Luke Cole hand Humphries, I believe is his name What's that say There was clap for him roll look the all Luke the Nuke fans. They're not building, they're saying Luke. Luke. Are we sure they're not saying Nuke? Yeah, well, could be. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Kissing everybody.

We're sucking faces. Jesus. Hey, Luke's got a mouth to mouth kiss with a couple. How many family members we got? I don't know. That's brother, lad. I think it was mom, daughter, and wife. They're kissing mom to mom, though.

We don't know what they do over there. Cake, buddy. That's one of the Joe Bros, right? Yeah, I believe so. People forget Joe Bros crushed at JMU. Oh, my God. The one dude they were with performed on that Nashville New Year's Eve. He crushed on New Year's Eve.

Bill Zerman. He was in the middle of the stage. The Joe Bros were surrounding him. He's got Pazaz. Does he? Yeah. Capital P. He had a sweet look whenever we saw him at JMU.

He's got the Zaz. Oh, you're saying he's the next one? Are you anointing him? He impressed me. You know who we're anointing? Luke the Nuke. Yeah. You think the're anointing? Luke the Nuke. Yeah. You think the moment's too big for Luke the Nuke?

I don't think so. Look at that dap up clean. The Nuke. Why? He says, why? Let's go. Let's fucking go. A little more crowd control.

Been there before. Cool. He's a random champ. Yeah, I think I'm going with cool hands. What? You son of a bitch. Come on. Come on.

Fuck you. Fuck you. AJ. We're on team. What? You son of a bitch. Come on. Come on. Fuck you. Fuck you. AJ. He's got a silver ball bottle. Just a couple losers. What are the odds? What are the odds? Oh, look.

The nuke's warming up. Look at him. He's locked in. This is a... Look at that ref. I ain't never seen him. 16 years old. What's that ref thinking in his head right there about 16-year-old Luke?

Jesus fucking Christ. That's a nuke right there. I cannot believe my eyes I mean the nuke's right in front of me Look away I like that they don't show I like that they don't show what the results are Of the practice throws

He's age 16 his ranking's 164th That's going to change after today His darts are 23 grams Targets he's throwing He's a 23 guy Here's Cool Hands Luke Humphries His darts are 23 grams. Targets he's throwing. He's a 23 guy. Here's Cool Hand's Luke Humphries. His darts are a 22 gram Red Dragon. Been there, done that, a little bit more expensive.

PDC ranking of three, although he is the reigning world champion. In the big moments, Cool Hand shows up. But we don't know if Luke Littler will because this is the first time we've seen him in a big moment. Before they went live, too, they were put in these blue rooms with massive blue lights. And they were just on a dartboard. Aiming down the line. What does that say right there? Luke, let us hit the mouse.

What? 171, 180. Can we put a little sound on? It sounds like our MC is cutting a promo. And what's an evening? The best player in the world, Luke Humphries. Just a little bit off. Oh, he started.

Was that one? Yeah yeah nice oh 180. these don't count is more what you know this is this counts we're alive of his chosen discipline i don't know if we're allowed to steal this no way no no triple 20. the new oh 19. oh no look like thatittler's got a little jizz to get out. Humphreys. Is that triple? No, that's low. What's a bullseye get you? They don't go for those. Yeah, bullseyes are 25, 50.

50 for the red. Those are 60 right there. One for the night. One for the night. The phenom, the 16-year-old. The phenom, like the Undertaker. Luke Littler. That guy's so close every time. I don't know if he's hitting it or not.

Why'd they go down triple 19? Easier throw? It's a good question. Each guy has their own preference, right? I know if you go... What's he doing? I can throw that. What's the game where you close the numbers out?

Is that cricket? Yeah, you got to hit exact. Nice, you got a one triple Straight away 19 40 left for little there's the triple 20ler There's the triple 20 There's the 20, it's AD Needed double 20 there to close it out Left door open for Littler

Littler can close it, need 40 Double 20 Littler first dot First dot Get He's the phenom for a reason folks Cool hand Luke Humphries goes triple, then 20-20. Oh, Luke is starting to vibe.

Oh, no. Come on, Luke. I like the pace we're working with here. Nice and fast. Yeah. Triple 20! Triple 19! Cool hand.

Wow. Move, reset, triple 19. Okay, cool hand. Seems like this one might be cool hand Luke's. Yeah, cool hand has answered. Double 20! Triple 20! He's just off, isn't he? He's a bit off, isn't he?

Damn. Split in the dart. He's a bit off in me Conscious right now. Oh No, Luke Littler can't hit a triple to save his life Drive get him out of here Oh, you let him breathe. Need a quick 286 round. You can do it, Luke. Triple 20.

He's off. Ah, no. Uh-oh. 188. Can't even get there. This one's over. They should just tap this one out. This one is...

Do you have to double out? No, I think you just got to get there. Why did you just throw a 16 in? Well, he's dancing. That's it. Oh! Oh! Let's go, Luke!

I love it. We're going to get jumped for stealing this, obviously. This is the new story of the day. We just fucking steal. I wanted to turn it off like four times. I don't know how I'm supposed to. Fuck. Come on, Luke.

God damn it. First to seven sets. We're at one-one legs. What the fuck does that mean? How many legs in a set? Three legs in a set. I did not like that. You can't have one of those rounds because Luke Littler will punish you Let me know why is he going for one? What's he doing? He's going for triple 18 or like wake up Luke Too many vapes you think it's actually maybe one too many best five legs to get a set

Best of five so you gotta get the three legs to get one set says generally a set because it's best of five legs to get a set. Best of five, so you got to get the three legs to get one set. So it's generally a set because it's best of five legs. What is Littler doing? First player to win three sets. You see the nerves are getting the hell out of both of them here. A little bit. Cool hands. There's a lot of darts.

They let them play. Ah, shit. Cool hands might have this one. He's a 120. That's not good. Oh, shit. Cool hands might have this one. He's a 120. That's not good. Oh, no. Yes! This guy was just in school two days ago.

Littler can't hit the fucking broad side of a barn right now. He's got a history test. Oh, no. Shit, Littler turns his foot. Oh, no. When he does that, man. Yes. Door open.

Come on, Littler. Come on! Littler. Come on. 120. One. 20. Need 100. Went for Bull Bull. Because the first up.

What the fuck? What the Littler? He could have went Bull Bull. What did he do? He fucking pooped his trousers there. Oh, you do a double up. Sounds like. Yeah, they put the thing next

to the names. D20 when it gets to the end. Oh, look at that. Look at that ball flight. It is good ball flight from Luke. He's fucking just dialing. Take a timeout, Littler. Can we slow the momentum? Oh, no.

You gotta trip him or something. Do something to break up his rhythm. Yeah, throw the darts on the ground like it's pickup basketball. Or just let out like a hoop. Humphries is 28. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is our British correspondent, Nigel Seeley. What? Nigel.

Nigel, what the fuck are we watching here? Littler's, he's falling apart. Is this what Koi and Luke does to people? I didn't even know you were calling me. I'm sitting there with a glass of wine watching the darts. What's going on? Nigel, we're worried about our guy. Our guy, Luke Littler. I didn't even do my hair.

Love him. That's what we're talking about with the British people. Absolutely love him. On fire. This guy is on his couch, literally. What's going on with Luke Littler right now? Listen, mate, he's got to make it. It's half past eight here. What's going on with Luke Littler right now? Listen, mate. He's got to make it. It's half past eight here. He's got to be in bed in an hour.

Do we know? He's got to be up for school in the morning. Hey, cool hand Luke Humphries is the reigning champion. He's the fucking guy, huh? He's the guy. That's what we need to understand. Well, let me tell you something. Luke Humphries is the world number one at dark.

Wait a minute. Luke L's back Luke Leather's back He's back but he's the world number one He's up against the best player in the world On an 18 match winning streak A guy who's Won most of the tournament Obviously a kid who's come through at 16 Unbelievable story

I'd love to see it happen, but I can't see it. Can't see it. 18-match winning streak. I think Humphreys will be too good. First set goes to Humphreys. What's he doing? He's going to the bathroom now? He just won the first leg?

What is it? You're slightly behind me here because we want to break you. It's one set to love. One set to love to Humphreys. Humphreys needs to win seven. So now he's won that. They have a little break. Come back.

You know, he's got to go and get some sweets. Get some candy, old Glitler. But Humphreys will have a glass of beer. But let me tell you something. I was chatting to a guy today about this Glitler, yeah? He's 16. He's playing for, I don't know, $650,000. He can't buy a car.

He can't have a drink in a bar. He's got no pressure. All he wants to do is have money for his PlayStation. Yeah, and vapes. He said he wanted to vape as well. I don't know if you heard that interview. We heard him say it. And a kebab.

He likes kebabs. He's got no pressure. He's got no girlfriend. He's got no wife. He's got no ex-wife or ex-ex-wife. He's got no pressure at all. He's laughing all the way to the bank. Yeah, you're right. We don't know what Cool Hand Luke Humphrey's doing.

I assume people are falling in love quickly. That chest hair. He has some scars on that heart, we assume. Oh, yeah. Smooching all the way to the stage. Yeah, he was smooching, wasn't he? He's sucking faces, everybody. All right, Nigel. So, Cool Hand Luke should win this 18-dart match winning streak.

Well, it's the first of seven, Pat. It's the first of seven, Pat. It's the first of seven. I think Luke Humphries wins 7-5. The only one thing I can guarantee is Luke will win it. The Fools will be stronger. All right. All right. Thank you.

Great to see you. Happy New Year. We miss you, buddy. See you later, guys. Thank you, guys. See you later. That's great. Yeah.

All right. We've got a British correspondent. What's he report on? Just any sport that's happening overseas. He's over there right. All right, we got a British correspondent. What's he report on? Just any sport that's happening overseas. He's over there right now. Oh, yeah. Locked in. Last time we talked to him, he was hanging out with Ted Lasso, his boss, at the tennis thing.

Wimbledon. Yeah. You know who I'm talking about, AJ? Who was Ted Lasso? The lady? Yeah, he takes biscuits to him more. She's a good singer. Hannah Waddy.

She's great. She's like a Broadway singer. Yeah, she is. She's talented. She's a weapon singer. Hannah Waddy. She's a great, she's like a Broadway singer. Yeah, she is. She had a special. She's a weapon. She's great. Lives right across the street from Nigel. Right.

Really? Yeah, flat. It was a flat, rock wall street. I'm in on the darts. Yeah. Yeah. Electric. Darts are fun.

Darts are fun. I'll be watching them. You're not that in. No, I'm not in. Okay, maybe you pick up darts instead of F1. There we go. Please. Oh, yeah.

Please, D-Bud, please. Connor just got a break. F1 still happening? No, no, no, they're on a break. Winter break. Let's just do that forever. Back in March. The conversation pre-show was, hey, Darius, if we're going to fall in love with something,

maybe it's time to take F1 out. Live, maybe. You know what I mean? Yeah, please. Because it's hard to find. It's tough to watch. And that kind of filled the to take F1 out. Live, maybe. You know what I mean? Yeah, please. Because it's hard to find. It's tough to watch. And that kind of fills the void of F1. Buggler birdies.

And it'll make us better. See, ESPN has the rights to F1. Not anymore. I think they gave them up. No, no, no. They said that. No, no, no. They gave them the Nickelodeon.

What did you just say? Like a 10-year deal, I believe. At least. Why? I'm not sure. It's not accurate. But look, we had it down here. We'll be back. And yes, I'm saying we. So when Live accurate, but look, we had a deal here. We'll be back.

And yes, I'm saying we. So when Liv Goff, when they cut that deal with ESPN at some point, inevitably. Through 2025. I'll be here. Thank God. I was going to say. 10 years. I was like, I'm not going to make it to the end of that. Yeah, if we got to wait until 2030. But we got 8 more races in Miami. That's why I assume.

85 million a year they're paying to F1. They're paying them? Fucking right. Who pays the billion dollars to make the city able to have the race? The owners of the NFL teams. Man, what a deal. Good for F1. Good business. I only say that because Miami. That's what happened in Miami, right?

Yeah, Ross said he made more off the Grand Prix than he did all year. That's because David Beckham was down there sending $3 million to him. Exactly. And now that Methi is there? Oh. Is he going to be juggling on top of one of these

F1 cars throughout an entire life? I'll watch if he does that. Yeah, that'll be entertaining. That'll be like real sport. Or they should just let him crash. What's your problem? Or let him... How about you let him race? That's the one. Let him race. Let the boys race. Let him crash. What's your problem? Or let him. How about you let him race? That's the one. Let him race.

Let the boys race. Let him race. J.J. Watt had 40 winners. Yeah. Yeah. Ton. Got his ass. It was a 20.

What an idiot. That was a great shot. You sandbagged him. Yeah. I mean, you've been working on it? I actually haven't been shooting many hoops as of late. Foxy. Foxy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Connor was prepared for that moment. He was ready. I'm prepared for every moment except for this day in history, but that's the thing about the free throw. Yeah, but today you hit this day in history, didn't you? Yeah. Great one.

Yeah. Yeah, boom. Today's just a good day. Didn't get your hair cut either? Let that thing grow a little bit? Yeah, yeah. You know, with the winter, I've been walking outside. The face has been a little cold.

It's chilly. Yeah, I figured maybe I'd just add the beard in a little bit. And then you're not getting your hair cut from the guy that normally cuts her hair, JC, right now because you're kind of holding a grudge against him. Yeah, you're mad at him. No, I'm thinking about... You're kind of mad at him right now. No, I'm not mad at all.

You're kind of mad. No, I'm definitely disappointed. You're bummed out. Yeah, I'm a little bummed out. Definitely bummed out. Bummed out,'re kind of mad. No, I'm definitely disappointed. You're bummed out. Yeah, I'm a little bummed out. Definitely bummed out. Bummed out, disappointed, not mad. National championship on Monday. No haircut.

We'll see about that. But, again, I like where I'm at right now. JC's got a lot to earn back with the old con man. Back porch barber pissed off Connor. Yeah, well. He was in here today. I got my haircut. I appreciate it

It looked great Conor man opted out What did you say? Nothing, I didn't say anything I'm not mad I said hello in the morning We talked about New Years I didn't have time today

He took the creative liberty to cut off some inches of your mullet And you will hold that against him forever. Yeah, unfortunately you mentioned the earned back. I don't know if that happened. That ship has sailed. The earned back thing. He's a good guy. He's the one that kind of created this entire thing. Well, actually, there is

a, again, beside the point, but you know, J.C.'s a great person. He's a great father. Great father. He's a great know, J.C. is a great person. He's a great father. Great father. Great father. He's a great barber, too. Right now, for me, he's not. But that doesn't mean he isn't.

That is just my truth. He's not your barber. No. No. He tried to just make your hair look more healthy And he's got great hair by the way He's got great hair and my hair does look healthier And it is much easier to put together But when I put this thing in a bun

I got like a baby nutsack On the back of my head I used to have a fucking I used to have a rock Now I got My nephew's nuts hanging from my hair. And that bums me out. And that's why I'm bummed out. But I'm not mad.

Won't get your haircut anymore. Not for a little bit. I need to grow that bun back out. I need to get that fucking thing back where it was. Like a softball. I would like to say thank you to JC for cutting my hair. I would like to say thank you to JC for cutting my hair. I'd like to say thank you to JC, too. Me, too.

Thank you, JC. Make the stash look fantastic. Love you, JC. All right, you know who people want to love? Who's that? NQ. Not easy. No, no, no, no.

Tough. Tough. Tough. New NQ, though, probably easier to love. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, it was pretty fun when I was eating and drinking everything. What?

I think about that a lot. Is it worth it, AQ? Yeah. Is your health worth it? Absolutely, AJ. That's right. We appreciate that. Okay.

Nice. For the people on JJ's money earlier today, do you want to maybe win like 20 more people some money? Sure. All you got to do is put that ball in that hoop over there. Okay. Have you practiced? Do you feel ready?

I don't need practice. You weren't practicing earlier today? Cheetahs don't stretch before they run. That's right. You've never been called a cheetah, but you have been called a man who can throw a football into a basketball hoop. There you go. 20 people could win $500 on this glorious day, bringing the total to 60 winners on this Wednesday, January 13, 2024. All you gotta do is

throw the ball, pull it in the hoop. Why don't you do it for him, AQ? The magic! 2020! Holy shit, man. That was good looking talk. That hit the rim. He's dialed. Keep going. Don't take time. This is what you do. Usually you get better and better as you go.

$500. All AQ's gotta do is put that ball in the hoop right over there. He's got another ball in his hand. Not going to need it. There he is. He's going to need it. A little more. AQ, why don't you put the ball into that hoop right over there. All right, here we go.

And 20 people will win $500. Oh, boy. Close. Oh, boy. It's only gotten worse. Yeah, yeah. This one's in. This one's in. Yeah. Try snapping it. Try long snapping it. It's only gotten worse From the start This one's in

Try snapping it Why don't you throw it like a dart Like your big nuke who's up right now What? 3-2 He's up 4-3, he lost the last one though Holy shit, 4-3 Needs to get to 7

Luke the nuke All you need to do is put that ball into that hoop over there. 20 people, $500. AQ Shipley, like Luke the Nuke. Yup. I thought that one was going to roll down the hoop. Me too. It was right on the bank.

Right on the bank. I'm going to take that ball for it. It's AQ Shiplover. In the trover. Oh, no. AQ Shiplover. Nate Hartung would have put that in yeah it's never been just what i need to do i gotta go back to me just grab it and chuck it here do you have any basketball you have to crawl underneath just grab it and chuck it turn and throw you know what you're

good at 20 people 500 oh man that would have been the one that's his thing though that's aq's thing yeah just not thinking. That's right. Just reacting. Leo Messi. Yeah, that's a good touch. 20 people, $500. All you got to do is put the ball in the hoop, AQ. Oh, I thought that was it.

I didn't know you had that much power. I mean, you had that cool lean down, left leg up. I was into the sweep. At 220 pounds, I didn't do that again. Enough power. 20 people. That ain't it. That was it. That was online. All three online.

Now you know. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ Shipley has to hit this ball and 20 people will win five. Yeah. Here you go. Here you go. Over here.

20 people. Five. Oh, God. That's embarrassing. His name is A.Q. Shipley, and he let them all down. A.Q. Shipley from the steel town. From the start, it's bad. Throw a dart like you're dead.

20 people, 500. Leonardo! That would have been cool if that went in. Yeah. Would have. One on the front here. On the front. That's the one you've scuffed up a bunch already.

Yeah, he already fucked up the ball forever. What about the Russell Wilson ball? Oh, yeah, right over there. If given the opportunity, yeah. He was benched, but not you. 20 people. What's that ball say on it? 2023. National Championship.

We're just days away from the 2024 National Championship. That ball is symbolic of the magical weekend we have ahead of us when it comes to football. Because the NFL is on Saturday. The NFL is on Sunday. And then the College Football National Championship

is on Monday. How lucky are we? How blessed are we? AQ, why don't you take that national championship ball and win 20 people $500. Look at who's putting in that hoop right over there. Here we go. It's too much. Why am I throwing it so hard?

It's all jacked up. Mountain Dew. Right over here. Right over here. Adrenaline. Calibrated. 20 people $500. If you can put that Russell Wilson dorsal fin

football into a place it's supposed to go for the first time in human history, 20 people will win $500. That ball has a mind of its own. Took that right turn. At the rim. Mind of its own. A lot of people say you didn't.

Cornhole bag. You're able to put this in that basketball right over there. At the rim. Yeah. Mind of its own. A lot of people say you didn't. All right. Cornhole bag. You're able to put this in an F-ass boat right over there. 20 people, $500 on this glorious January 3rd, 2024. AQ Shipley. Oh! 20 people, $500. You got it! Way to go, AQ.

Just like Luke the Nuke. Look, putting it where it needed to go. Hell yeah. All you gotta do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay you. Congratulations, AQ. Way to go. You look good. You feel good.

You just won a bunch of people some money. And for us, that'll be it. Four and a half hours today. Yep. Did not expect that or see that one coming. But we're honored to be able to do this every single day. We'll be back tomorrow. Hey, Dee Butch, great work this week.

Hey, Dee Butch. Thank you. Great work today. Cheers. Boys, have a great one. We will see you tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice that might change their life.

Goodbye.