The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1052 - CFP Championship Game Recap, Mike Vrabel Fired By The Titans, Kirk Herbstreit, Aaron Rodgers, Darius Butler LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys are back in Indy after a wild night in Houston at the CFP National Championship that saw Michigan defeat Washington 34-13. They recap the game and the college football season as a whole and what Jim Harbaugh’s next move might be, before reacting to the breaking news that the Titans have officially fired Head Coach Mike Vrabel. Joining the show to chat about last night’s game and how dominant Michigan was this whole year, if Jim Harbaugh has officially restored Michigan to it’s former glory, if they can sustain this success, and much more is the voice of college football and the NFL on Prime, Kirk Herbstreit (22:26-38:19). Later, 4x MVP, Super Bowl Champion/MVP, Quarterback of the New York Jets, Aaron Rodgers joins the show to chat about the current situation between him and Jimmy Kimmel and all the fallout from it, plus they chat about his discussion with Bill Belichick after the game that the camera’s caught, his thoughts on the Packers and Jordan Love, the rumors that Garrett Wilson is changing from number 17 to make way for Davante Adams, and more (1:02:36-2:12:22). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, January 9th, 2024. This sports program starts now. Football! Was magical last night, was it not? As we crowned a new college football national champion, congrats to the Michigan Wolverines. Congrats, boo! An absolutely dominating performance where the Washington Huskies could have made it a game, but instead the Michigan defense continued to smother. The Michigan offense continued to be explosive.

They go over 400 and some yards total, 350-plus on the ground. The most dominant win, I think, from a physicality standpoint that we have seen in some time. Now, Georgia smacked TCU in the mouth one year ago in the championship, so it's hard not to just say that's the most dominating win. But if you look at how Michigan beat Washington last night, it was exactly how everybody kind of predicted. Will Michigan, who wants to grind and pound in old-school football, be able to do what they've done all year against this Washington Huskies team

who's tried and true? Well, Donovan Edwards got this thing started with a 41-yard touchdown, then a 46-yard touchdown on the ground. That's number two and number three whenever it comes to longest touchdown runs in CFP Championship history. Derrick Henry has a 50-yarder.

Donovan Edwards has a 46 and a 41 yarder you just saw the motions in the shifts and you see the miscommunication from washington sheroe moore who's the interim head coach for the last three weeks as jim harbaugh was serving a suspension because of that rat bastard connor stallion being a rogue agent was in his bag i assume a lot of people are looking at him for head coaching opportunities, but will he be the head coach of this Michigan Wolverines team? I think Jim Harbaugh sat down with Rhys Davis this morning,

and we haven't seen the entire interview as Blake Corham continues to get loose. And once again, that's all on the ground. This is not 1995. This is 2024 for the 2023 National Championship, and they pounded the rock. It was fun to watch. Harbaugh loved that team.

That team loved each other. They came back to accomplish exactly what they accomplished, and now the future is all anybody's going to talk about. We will have somebody from the college football world joining us in the next 10 to 15 minutes as Harbaugh got a Gatorade bath after eluding the first one on the sideline with some incredible quicks, you know, because comeback kids got some agility. I think he also puts about a half a tin in his lip every single day of his life. Yes.

So this dude's a dog, always has been. His dad obviously cut a promo on the stage as the microphone cut out. Who's got it better than us? Nobody! on the stage has the microphone cut out. Who's got it better than us? Nobody! The Harbaughs are obviously living an incredible high and now all anybody wants to know is if that guy who has now accomplished a national championship

and has been able to sit at the same table as his father who won a natty and his brother who won a Super Bowl championship, does he want to maybe go check off the list of a Super Bowl championship that he was this close to winning whenever Beyonce put the list of a Super Bowl championship that he was this close to winning whenever Beyonce put the lights out in New Orleans and the Baltimore Ravens get a massive win over the San Francisco 49ers? A lot of people are going to ask that.

Rhys Davis talked to Jim Harbaugh this morning. We haven't seen the entire conversation, but I do know the caption of it said that nobody knows what the future holds. That's kind of what Harbaugh has been saying this entire time. A lot of Michigan people are hoping he comes back, especially after experiencing what he experienced last night. You can't experience that in the NFL. They were singing in that locker room, Hail to the

They were doing that. Oh, yeah. You don't get that in the NFL. Perfectly. He actually told me in our Barbara Walters Super Journalism sit-down. Yeah, sure. He said, when I die and they throw dirt on top of me and wood. Right, boy.

I think he saw himself laying in there as they were throwing the dirt on top of me. He said, well, there's wood there. Well, inside. So if they're not, I'm hoping they do put me in a casket. He said, if they eulogize me and just say he was a Michigan man, he's like, that's all right by me. That man loved that school. He goes back, accomplishes it all through a lot of adversity. Him and his brother obviously have a great moment. That team has a moment now that they'll meet and have reunions for

forever. And there's, you know, Tom Crean, former IU basketball coach. One year going into the season, they were ranked three. They ended up in the NIT. Some assholes in Indianapolis started a song that said he went from number three to the NIT. Now

everybody's screaming, fire Tom Crean. That was not us. No, no, no. But we did hear it, and he did get fired. He's in that family of coaching as well. Couldn't even fathom how motivating and inspiring Thanksgiving is over there. But congrats to the Michigan Wolverines. It was an honor to watch you guys.

The talk table's here, as they were on the sideline last night as well. I think wearing the same exact shirt. That's at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. No change of clothes for the con men. No, no change of clothes. I did not plan on the FBO2 here. I thought we were possibly stopping by the apartment. So sure, same shirt. Let's not stop there.

Same socks, same pants, same underwear. I smell like a hockey bag right now. But it's great to be here. Yesterday was incredible. Early on too. I was thinking to myself last year, TCU, this is happening right now, but it's great to be here. Yesterday was incredible. Early on, too. I was thinking to myself last year, TCU, this is happening right now. Michigan's getting blown out. If a team has purple

colors, or excuse me, Washington's getting blown out. It was hard last night. I was saying, Michigan and Washington, in my brain, very easy to... A lot of eyes. Yeah, because... In, big, in, on, in. That was a tough one for me yesterday, especially with 10 hours on TV. It's going to carry into today for sure.

But you're right, purple in the national championship as of late, not a good color to be wearing. Yeah, might have to cut them out. And if you do have purple colors, maybe start thinking, hey, maybe we change to magenta. Or the all black. All black. Go all black.

That'd be cool with a little white and gold like Washington. But no, it was a fantastic game. Kind of felt bad for Penix as he's walking off. Nothing all black. That'd be cool with a little white and gold like Washington. It was a fantastic game. Kind of felt bad for Pennix as he's walking off. Nothing went right. We were talking about Texas watching that game last night. How about Oregon? Oregon watching that game. You've got to be kidding me. This guy could have missed anything all year and now they're having

all these non-Washington-esque plays. That's Michigan's defense. They were flying around. Pac-12, at least they went out as a national champion finalist. Maybe they hang the banner a la the Colts in the AFC championship.

It was just domination by that Michigan defense. D-line, offensive line, mindset, the whole thing. Ty, speaking of mindsets, and what Connor mentioned there early was we were supposed to fly back last night. We sure were. But because of the questionable weather in Houston and they literally didn't know if it was going to be a tornado

or calm, cool skies, they kind of grounded a lot of planes. There wasn't a lot of planes getting in and out of Houston last night. So we ended up staying the night, leaving this morning. You know, it's another slap-happy Tuesday. For sure. Another slap-happy Tuesday. Absolutely. Not a lot of sleep, which is good, Ty,

because I don't know if you saw it last night. While the college football national championship was going on and Jim Harbaugh was winning the national championship for the Michigan Wolverines, Jimmy Kimmel spent seven minutes and 32 seconds talking about Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, he did. And who are we to think that, hey, maybe this Tuesday he'll come

and we won't even mention any of this stuff. Just be casual. Exactly. Just move on. We'll talk about how incredible of a day we had in Houston yesterday. What an incredible season we had for college football. How good the drinks were. Exactly.

How much fun we had last night. Pizza Hut was there, which was, again, they do not miss. They do not miss. But, of course course that happened you know we we get that monologue and then now we're kind of you know going from slap happy to i mean i'm i'm on the roller coaster i got the little thing coming down over uh over my shoulders here and i'm just i'm just waiting for rogers come on just to see what he's gonna say so i'm excited yeah i mean you mentioned it you were on TV for 10 hours yesterday and then late last night, yeah, we tied

one on and had a couple pops and woke up early this morning and some of us maybe, you know, basically got shaken by the security for the hotel to wake up this morning, but it's a great Tuesday. We're all alive. We had a great night. I'm excited

to be here with you guys. There's a couple bodies missing from the vans this morning. They were leaving very early from the hotel to make it to the plane. Those people did have phones that were operating. They were called. Those people did have hotel room phones that were called and slept through them. And then there was a health and wellness check that you can always drop in there where they send security into the room. I'm not saying Ty was certainly one of the people that was missing, but Ty did wake up with a stranger shaking his body to make sure he was alive.

Rolled over to a guy basically saying like, Wake up! Your car's outside right now! That was a hell of a way to start Tuesday. That's a hell of a way to start Tuesday. So I'm rearing to go. I'm excited for today. We're back, baby. Let's do it. Ty and Nick, certainly the alarm clock boys were missing. Clearly missing.

My room was right across the hall from his and I was out in the hallway and I could hear his alarm going off in the hallway and I pounded on his door for a good five minutes and nothing happened. I said, well, Houston's gone now. I didn't know if it was going to be a Bangkok situation where we were just going to leave you guys. on his door for a good five minutes and nothing happened. I said, well, Houston's gone now. Houston's gone now. I didn't know there was going to be a Bangkok situation where we were just going to leave you guys.

I didn't think about anybody missing the shuttle until I was heading down the elevator at 5.30 a.m. this morning or whatever and being like, oh, there's no way everybody's here. No chance. That was literally with how tired I was. I was like, there's no chance that everybody in our office, after what I just saw everybody doing, and I want to let you

know, we celebrated that college football season last night. What was the last call? In the lobby. Three was the last call? Yeah, but also they were kind of a little lenient with that whole thing. Felt like there was a lot of extra drinks going on past last call. And then we get in there. Pretty much there was only four people missing.

Standard humans, I think we thought, after seeing last night would be missing. Top four. Yeah, I mean, Foxy kind of slipped in there. Foxy had the wrong time somehow. Yeah, I just had the wrong time. First time in my life there. Foxy was panicked. He sprinted down, sweating through

his bag. Foxy, there's still two guys still in their beds. Yeah, I normally need coffee. Didn't need it. Had a heart attack, so I was wide awake. Yeah, it was a good morning. So I'm happy we got everybody back to Indy. Happy we're here today. But yeah, didn't know about that Jimmy Kimmel thing until after the game, obviously,

because there's no service in any of these stadiums. Right. And to be honest, I know there's a lot of people writing that I just like. Anybody say anything? Well, I like first ballot Hall of Famer is the best football throw in the history of football. Say whatever opinions they would like to have. I think that's

considered journalism. We're learning more about one of the greatest athletes of all time. I think that we ever have in the past and I know you suits are going to say a little bit different, but I thought I knew how today was probably going to go because how loud it got and how all parties don't love that whole thing. Some things, I think some people were like, you know, Friday.

Yeah. Some people, things get real loud where maybe we don't necessarily expect it to get as loud. And I think we're all pumped for this week to go. And then you learn of the entire beginning of the show happening. You're like, well, now I'd be interested to see how this whole thing is going to go. So I'd like to let everybody know we're just as interested as you are. That's coming in less than an hour.

I want to let everybody know, we did ask them if you wanted to come in the noon hour, just in case we wanted to rerun any of our previous shows in the second hour, because we assume today will be a crop program after what we have been through this morning. Total.

But, no, 105 still locked in. It's time to get some stuff to do. Obviously, he's a professional athlete. And I'm assuming after today, we're just going to move on. Yeah, of course. Forgotten. Well, I'm excited to learn about Schrodinger's dog in the second hour. That's what I'm most excited for, Aaron.

It's not Schrodinger's dog. Who's Schrodinger? If you hear it. It's the Dunning-Kruger effect, Tony. Freddy Kruger? It's on me. What did you think? What did you think, Jimmy Kimmel? Schrodinger's dog. Okay. Like Pavlov's dog or something. There it is. Ring the bell.

Is it Schrodinger's cat? Is it Schrodinger's cat? It is Schrodinger's cat, yes. Okay. If they tell you there's a dead cat in that box, there's a dead cat in that box. And what was the one that Jimmy called Dunning-Kruger? The Dunning-Kruger effect. Which basically said that Aaron's too arrogant to even know he's dumb in a field that's outside of football, what he's naturally gifted at. That's right.

Now, he's obviously the only human in the world that would potentially suffer from that potential effect in the world that we are currently living in. Yeah, absolutely. You know what i mean remember we just went through a bitcoin time and an nfp time and a lot of things where everybody became experts very quickly yeah feels like we should have known about these donning kruger phenomenal yes so we appreciate jimmy for that and also like i understand why jimmy feels the way he feels sure so i'm pumped to hear what happens in the second hour. I'm also pumped to continue the chatter about our brand new national champions. D-Butt, you're on the sideline, nine-year NFL vet,

looking so cool with your cowboy hat. So cool. Wow. So cool with your cowboy hat. Why do you think this Michigan defense was just so damn great against Michael Penickson at Washington Huskies offense? Because if you look back to what they did to Alabama and Jalen Milrow, like, wow, Alabama's offense is playing horrendous.

This is terrible. If Alabama's offense didn't play horrendous, this is a completely different game. Well, maybe Michigan's defense just caused them to play miserable. Maybe Michigan's defense was the reason why Michael Penix didn't play as great. Why was this Michigan defense so good? And is it duplicable for this particular university to do it again oh yeah for the same university for sure jesse mentors that defense has been phenomenal all year long wire

to wire they just discipline just like the offense you know sharon moore where he's done with that offense but they make you go the long hard way i said a bunch of times last night they're not going to give up the big plays think about just off the top of your head how many times you saw miss open field tackles so when you're playing a zone defense, rallying and tackling, stapling guys to the ground is a huge part of that. Will Johnson, the corner, I think he won a defensive MVP. I think Mike Sanestrill could have did it as well. So you also have some phenomenal players. We know how deep their defensive front is.

So talented players, great coaches. When it all comes together, they're a tough team to beat. And, I mean, they left absolutely no doubt last night in anyone's mind in college football. They were the champs. Closing out this, you know, four-team college football playoff era, you know, going into the next era now. So we'll see what Harbaugh does, you know, because obviously he's a big part of that, being the head coach, even though he was away from the team for a few games, you know, this year. You see how strong

his coaching staff is. We'll see if he goes on to the NFL level because he did what he had to do at Michigan. He was talking about spring practice, too. He may be just already ready to flip that page. I forget who told us this last night. Maybe it was Matt Berry or Reese Davis or

Stanford Steve. I forget who it was last night. I think it was Stanford Steve. McElroy. Did he beat them? Slim Pete. Pete Rabbit. Slim Pete. Pete Rabbit was certainly in abundance last night.

I guess it was Stanford Steve. Maybe he was talking to Scott Van Pelt after the game, and he said something about, we normally start spring practice on Valentine's Day because we love football. Of course. But I'm thinking about pushing that back a month. Valentine's Day because we love football. Of course. But I'm thinking about pushing that back a month. That was the comment that he made. And everybody was like, spring practice, pushing it back a month.

Wait a minute now. I think the hiring of Don Yee, and I talked to a lot of college football people who are obviously very pumped for Jim Harbaugh to potentially stay in college football because the character that is Jim Harbaugh, and I'm only getting to know it here, I think, in the last few weeks, phenomenal.

Best. Hilarious. One of one. You know, there's an entire promo that his dad talked about whenever people call him quirky, he's quirky. And his dad, instead of giving like a fun answer to whoever asked him this in the media, he said, is quirky getting all your players to buy in?

Is quirky getting your players to not mess with any distractions? Is quirky like basically rattled off his son's resume and was like, if that's the case, call me quirky too. And then like walked off pretty much. It was almost like I'm sick of people calling my kid quirky. He's certainly one of one. And I think quirky would be a good word to describe him. But I think we're all kind of missing the fact that Jim Harbaugh is a phenomenal football coach. What that team went through this year. And he,

in his press conference, wanted to make sure everybody was reminded and understood that, hey, we're innocent, by the way. Here's Jim Harbaugh basically cutting off Lake Coram with a question about the asterisk of the season because of what took place with the Connor Stallion situation. And remember, Jim Harbaugh knows a lot more than us about what was investigated, what computers were taken, what cell phones were taken, what was looked through for this entire thing. And remember the statement said that they

believe Jim did not know any of this was happening? Here's Jim after the championship being asked basically about how people should view this title, especially with the word cheaters trending last night on X. Here's Jim Harbaugh sticking up for his team. This was not a season where everything

went the way you wanted it to. There was the off the field issues, which we all know about. Can you talk about the satisfaction having overcome those as well to get to this point? Does it make it even sweeter? Can I? Yeah, go ahead. It couldn't have gone better.

It went exactly how we wanted it to go to win every game. Ask those players. Off-the the field issues, we're innocent. And we stood strong and tall because we knew we were innocent. And I'd just like to point that out. And these guys are innocent.

And, yeah, overcome that. It wasn't that hard because we knew we were innocent. So yeah, that's really what I want to say. It went exactly how we wanted it to go. It went exactly how we wanted it to go. I love that he is getting to enjoy this. But I also appreciate the fact that he's like, they've done the investigation.

The NCAA is going to try to do their investigation. We knew in our team meeting room that no matter what was said outside, we're going to try to dominate the next day because it's the only thing that matters. And also, we didn't do shit. Nothing. I asked Blake Corum, Blake, did you know they were running cover two whenever you were running for five touchdowns last year?

And Blake said, no, I didn't know. They were like, maybe they're Connor Stallions. Yeah, he's good. I asked Will Johnson, did you know they were running an hour out when he jumped one pick? He said, did you know? And Will said, no. I was like, wait, Connor Stallions do.

So I stood up there and I said, I had no idea that this guy was doing this. And we all kind of rallied around that, actually, that everybody is going to be attacking how great we are as a team because of something that took place in here by a psychopath. Anybody that has a manifesto is normally...

He came back to the internet last night too. Especially titling, and he was at the Rose Bowl. I don't know if he was at the game. I don't think so. I don't think he's getting a ring. He's making his own. He's getting a ring one way or the other. He's going to Jostens. Yeah, because Jess Sims actually broke down exactly what the ring looks like. And he was in the corner.

All right, I'm going to handle this up, actually. I'm going to put my knocks, maybe. Yeah, right there. Right up here. But that's something that could rally the group, and they clearly did that. To keep all the distraction and noise out, 18- to 23-year-olds, incredible coaching job has to be talked about with jim hardball yeah he can coach the shit out of football and get a sit

down with him you feel like his energy it's like okay this guy loves ball more than you do more than i do and also this guy wants to connect like when he's talking to you he's trying to make a connection it's just like he oozes coaching and And I'm happy he spoke up for himself last night in the biggest moment. He was kind of mentioned, too. Great, great sit-down with him and DeBoer as well. But it just speaks to the leadership on that team, once again, from the coaching staff. They're a veteran group, too.

A lot of guys that came back. So once you kind of get that, hey, it's us against everybody. Remember when all the players put out the tweet, bet, bet, bet. Wish I would have listened to them. But, you know. Shut up, bet. Yeah, it just us against everybody. Remember when all the players put out the tweet, bet, bet, bet? Oh, yeah. Wish I would have listened to them. But, you know. Shut up, man. Yeah, it just speaks to that team, you know, how tight they were. And they went out there and played.

Like he said, it went exactly how they wanted it to go. If you drew up the game, the perfect game plan for them, everybody in here, we would all say, yeah, run for 300 yards and keep Michael Penance in the pocket. Get after him. Limit the run game. And Michael Penance, you know, he was a little off, but that was, I think, had a lot to do with that Michigan defense,

obviously playing that zone, having him rather. He was never comfortable in the pocket. He did miss some throws. I think Roman Dunzay said he came on the one that he missed. He ran the wrong route. So, once again, Michigan did a great job. Never happened all year. Exactly.

Because the great job they do on defense, just like they do on offense with the formation shifting and motioning, on defense they hold looks for, you know, right before the snap and then get to something. So your quarterback and your receivers have to be on the same page. So can't say enough about the job that Harbaugh has done. Yeah, and like the other thing we've talked about a lot is the football gods. Like the football gods had multiple times throughout the season

to just cut Michigan down at the knees. They started out without Harbaugh. They finished the regular season without Harbaugh. That is something the football gods, if they really did think, or excuse me, if they really did know that Harbaugh and the Michigan team were cheating, they would have cut them down. Corham would

have fumbled on the goal line. Something would have happened. The Cork quirky thing people are talking about, I guess they're not the same. Do people say that about Pete Carroll? It feels like Pete Carroll is kind of the same jovial way, taking his shirt off with DK. You're talking

about connecting with players. Pete Carroll is in that Bill Belichick 71 elder statesman in the NFL, but he's still throwing seven on seven. He's still jovial as ever. Pete Carroll, also one of the coaches that has won Natty and Super Bowl. I think there's only a few that have been able to do that.

You might have to be able to think differently if you're going to be connecting with 18-year-olds and 35-year-olds. Jim Harbaugh has been able to do that at a high level. Last night, he gets a chance to celebrate a little bit for all his hard work. Joining us now is a man who had an incredible season,

was on the call last night alongside his dog and Chris Fowler and Holly Rowe. Ladies and gentlemen, Kirk Herbstreit. Yay! Herbie! How we doing? How'd it go last night? We're waiting on you.

Where are you at? Oh, you're echoing. You're echoing terribly. I'm echoing? Can you hear us now? I hear you. Where are you at? Yeah. Oh, you're echoing. You're echoing terribly. I'm echoing. Can you hear us now? I hear you. I think you had your hand underneath. Anyways, where the hell were you?

What happened? Last night? Yeah. Yeah. You want to hang out with the boys? What's that about? I wanted to hang with the boys, and Pat left the area that we were assigned to for just a quick hello. Yeah, I did a quick hello.

And then I did a quick hello. It was one of the best quick hellos I've ever done in my entire life. I don't know anybody in here. Hello. And then I thought you were going to do, because you knew a little bit longer hang, and then, hey, how are the boys doing down in the lobby? That's what we thought was going to happen, but we missed you.

I want to let you know, the boys handled themselves well. A couple guys missed the shuttles this morning, missed their alarms, had to be woken up by security and wellness checks in their hotel room this morning. Yeah, two of those guys. We had a great college football national championship. Yes, we did. All right, let's talk about it.

Michigan's so dominant. Like, just a phenomenal game. And we talked in the hallway a little bit before you just decided to bail completely on all of us down in the lobby. We talked about how Washington could have got back in that. There was a couple moments where, like, it's a 14-point game, 17-point game or whatever. Washington makes a play. Maybe they're all the way back in it. And what they moments where like it's a 14 point game 17 point game or whatever Washington makes a play maybe they're all the way back in it and what they were able to do all year

they just weren't able to do last night and I think it's time that we give credit to Michigan's defense for making teams look worse than they look the rest of the year what were your thoughts on the game last night and as you were calling it were you thinking about like damn this is Michigan is winning the national championship first time, long time, Herbie? I was, you know, always have your thoughts whenever you're doing a game after talking to folks. And, like, privately, you just think this game could go one way or the other. I wondered if Michigan would be able to get the Pennix, Michael Pennix. Keep in mind, Pat, the style that Jesse Minter used against Alabama and Milrow, who's a very different quarterback in his run threat, they did a lot of pressure. They squeezed the pocket.

They brought five, sometimes six, and overwhelmed Bama with confusing them up front. This time, they got it done with four. It was such a different look because the Pennix and the receivers, they played a lot more zone, but they disguised. They got in different looks. and the receivers, they played a lot more zone, but they disguised. They got in different looks. They really had Michael Penix for the first time in his career at Washington, uncomfortable and almost to the point where I think he was hurrying his thought process up and it was affecting his decision-making and his accuracy,

which is his greatest asset, was completely taken away from him. So instead of me saying, what's wrong with Penix, what's wrong with the Dunzay, I walked out of there saying, damn, this defense is legit. And they play old school, fundamental, tackle in space, do your assignment, football, rally to the football, and it's effective. So Jesse Minner, to me, after all they went through with all that noise, you know, week six, week seven, week eight, wow, the only reason they stopped anybody is Connor Stallions. I know the play. I put that on a tee.

And then at the back end of that, they didn't have any of that, and they still went out and played great defense. So congrats to Michigan. Congrats to those players that were really on a mission since they lost to TCU last year and walked off that field. Yeah, and maintaining the focus on the mission with all the distractions. That's not easy for anybody, anybody at all, even professionals. I mean, it's like how they handled it was incredibly mature.

And he talks about putting that up on a tee for Ty Peet. Last night he was doing Pete Thamel on the Megacast, and the producer, Ben Ward, good guy, TV guy, but good guy. We get along with him. Sure. He's great for us. He slides Ty Schmidt's name under him while he's talking. He said, put the name in my ear.

Put the name bars up so nobody thinks it's actually Pete Thamel. That's not good. Yeah, exactly. People, I think, are kind of – there's a chance. Who is that? There was a moment last night that you missed down in the lobby where Ty and Pete were literally in the corner talking to each other. Ty was a little boozed up, so he's close talking.

Pete is up against the wall, a little bit uncomfortable. And it was like a good 15, 20 minutes of meeting of the minds. Let's get back to that Jim Harbaugh, Michigan conversation. You talked about, obviously, on the defense side. On the offensive side, Shereme Moore, now interim head coach for the last three games. We saw how emotional he got afterwards against that Penn State team where he was so thankful for Harbaugh and the opportunity.

And I think he knew at that time what we all kind of learned going forward is none of them knew that was happening. So that's why they were super emotional. I think it was a bunker mentality taking place. He's in line, right? He would be the if jim was to doesn't that seem like a natural baton toss right there for the michigan team based on what happened this year and from more as a a kind of a a star in the making i mean it this guy came in in 21 and jim harbaugh took a chance on him he not only is calling plays these last two years,

he got them back to their identity, which is a dominant offensive line that really sets the tone for the entire team. And these last three years, that's been very evident. Now, I'll tell you, from our guy Rich Rod on, they recruited a different style of Michigan offensive lineman. It's taken a long time for them to get it back over 10 years. But Jerome Moore deserves creating that culture in that room. And then the play calling and then taking on the head coaching responsibilities

when Jim Harbaugh was down at the end of the year. But I'll tell you, man, more than that, you know, we often watch these college games and it's quarterbacks and it's receivers and it's a spread system. How refreshing for these old school guys to see blocking and tackling and a fullback and a tight end and just huddling huddling in a huddle yeah i mean it's they are kind of an old school approach on both sides but the plan they put together a lot of those confusion you should see in some of those big plays but by donovan edwards washington got

out of a gap you know and and Edwards, to his credit, had the vision to find it and exploded through for a couple of big scores. And then Washington, they tightened things up, to their credit, you know, and made it a competitive game. To your original point about you thought we were close to this thing becoming 2020, if Pennix would have ever been able to have the time, you know, it would have been fun to see if he could have settled and make throws but michigan made him uncomfortable all the way through to the end of the game and they ended up getting that big interception late and secured victory i uh it was

i guess the final stats learned from marissa game day stats former colgate softball player she said really good first ever game hits a dinger first at bat. She's big brain. Big brain. Incredibly kind person. She said that the ticket sales from what she was able to find was 62-38 for Michigan. Felt like 70-30, 65-35. Their fans showed up. I got a chance

to talk to a lot of them. And I want to let the Michigan fans know, I appreciate the hospitality i appreciate how nice they were to me and i appreciate that every one of them to a t said don't start picking us now okay they all knew that all season i have picked against michigan and they've got to the national championship and the reason why i picked against michigan is because i thought the football gods yep i thought the football gods at some point were going to rear their little head that's what the football gods, I thought the football gods at some point, we're going to rear their little head.

That's what the football gods do with everything that happened. Now, since I saw how it is kind of unfolded and how the football gods have reacted, it's like, yeah, they are completely innocent. The football gods would have punished them in the worst way.

If what they were alleged to be doing, they actually were doing. So I grew a massive amount of respect, not only for the Michigan fans, but for this Michigan football team and for hardball through this year with their battling. So I grew a massive amount of respect, not only for the Michigan fans, but for this Michigan football team and for Harbaugh through this year with their battling. And I picked Washington again in the national championship on game day strictly because I was told by 2,000 Michigan people, do not pick us.

It was like, you got it. And then they go to win by three scores. Did I win that national championship? Hey, way to go. What about me? Way to go. Get a ring. Give me a ring. I love that team, Herbie.

I do. I was going to say you've been around them, and that's the best part of our job is getting around the players. These Michigan players, you've got to really respect what they did and how they did it, not just this year, but going back to the Georgia loss, going back to the TCU loss. You know, Aiden Hutchison in that era really got this thing started, that leadership, the foundation that they created, and what they've done to be able to finish the job the last two years.

They're just a motivated team. Keep that in mind for all the coaches that are out there trying to build the right culture. Somehow, someway, Jim Harbaugh created a culture where that block M and the maize and blue are more important to them while they're playing at Michigan than that NFL contract or that money. And I'm not saying that that's not equally as important, but they're able to put that on the back burner because they care about each other. And it's a selfless group. Again, it's not an accident that these guys ended up getting to the national championship with that culture and ultimately winning it. Now, can they sustain it is the next question, because that's the toughest part is to do it year after year after year. And that's what makes us all kind of appreciate and bow down to Nick Saban and what Kirby Smart,

these guys do, because it's challenging. It's one thing to get up there. It's a whole different thing when you lose a great group of leaders to keep doing it. And we'll see, you know, that's the next challenge for them as they move forward with Jim Harbaugh

or without him. Very valid points. Tony has a question about that. Yeah, Harvey, when we were looking at the two deep on the cards last night for the game, like damn near every starter is a senior. And then J.J. McCarthy is obviously not a senior, but he could go. Corum's

gone. There is going to be, they're going to have to replace a lot next year. Can they do that? Because I know they've had great recruiting classes and stuff like that. And does that, do you think that losing J.J., losing all these seniors will factor into Harbaugh's decision to potentially go to the NFL?

I really don't think so. I think there's so much pride in what that program is about, top to bottom. I don't think it's just about this class. Even though it's a special group that will be remembered forever in Ann Arbor and by Michigan fans, and they should be. And if J.J. ends up leaving, I think there's something about the thrill, the challenge of trying to build it back up, you know, for a lot of coaches. But I think at the end of the day for Jim Harbaugh, it's really just going to be, he just got to the top.

He did what he, this is his former school. He's an alum. He came back, big dreams. First few years weren't going as well as he had hoped. He makes some changes on his staff and post COVID, they've been as good as anybody the last three years. And now you get to the top. Is that it? Like he did what he wanted to do to come back to his school and he did it. Now, is it just once? And is the allure of the NFL where he got to the Super Bowl and he didn't quite win it, is that too powerful

to turn away from because he wants one more shot to get back there? Or does he say, you know what, I'm just getting started in Ann Arbor? I mean, we just won one. We're going to get on a run here. Who knows? Only he and his family really know what he's thinking. But personally, I hope he stays in college football. I enjoy him.

I enjoy his program. And I really enjoy the way they do business and the culture that they have. Only national champion in the last 10 years this is program instead of program too come on representing for the north yeah you know what I mean uh last question for you Herbie on this glorious Aaron Rodgers Tuesday from D-Butt yeah Curry you just wrapped up your 28th college season uh second Thursday night football season congrats going into the Rose Bowl Hall of Fame as well. So a great year all around. Any particular moment that stands out for you off the top of your head? From this season.

Not the whole 28 from this year. Yeah, this year. Easy answer, Kirk. Ben being with me this year. There we go. Bingo. Every single week really stands out. Easy answer, Kirk. Ben being with me this year. There we go. Bingo. Bingo. Every single week really stands out.

Just to see, you know, even people that don't know him, Pat, you didn't know him, then you get around him, and he just has almost like a human, actually not a human, element to him. He just has a sweetness about him. He's like an angel. He's angelic. Yes. Yeah. Majestic, Mufasa, and loving. sweetness about him. He's like an angel. He's angelic.

Majestic, Mufasa, and loving. He just walks around a room without a leash. He just says hi to everybody. He did try to fight the Dubs yesterday. They wanted to get at each other, but they were on a leash, so we were good. So, like, both of them, actually. I said to you

whenever I heard about the Dubs, Ben, potential altercation, I said, Ben, don't want that. I mean, that's a husky. Oh, yeah. Ben's like, you know, friend, compadre, leader, sensei, you know? Exactly. Huskies are, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Wow.

Their canines are for real. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like that is, and Kirk was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy. You stuck up for Ben quickly. You were like, let's not just act like handing over the title to a Husky for no reason. You can appreciate this more than anybody.

He was raised by another Golden. So when he was 12 weeks, this other dog was six. They wrestled two hours a day. You'd imagine every day. You imagine the reps that he got and the technique. Because you watch these dogs wrestle, and it gets to the point where it's getting real. He's fought so much, and he's an aggressive dog. He's a sweetheart with people, but he gets aggressive with other dogs.

So I think he's undefeated, too. So I think he's hunting his own. He gets into a scrap. He's one of those centers that had a great high school wrestling career. You don't need it until you do. And we almost needed the national championship. Hell of a year for you and for college football. Safe travels out of there.

I guess that win's pretty unpredictable. We got out this morning. It was, I mean, it wasn't the smoothest, you know. There was some action. There was live action. Way to get up quickly. You're screwed. Hey, boys, probably the last time I'll be on with you for a while.

You guys want to talk about playoffs. Really appreciate. I'm on to whatever you want me to do. Hey, will you move your hand? You're talking in your hand. You're talking through your hand. Yeah. Yeah, here we go right there.

Is that better? Yeah. Like a thousand times better. I apologize. I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your entire team. You guys, we got a taste of you last year coming around, but this year having you around so many times, you know, on the Fridays and the gamers stick around until Saturday

and maybe even the Saturday night to watch some college football. Honestly, just your energy has been a huge blessing to College Game Day. And, Pat, you specifically, everything you brought to the show this year. I feel like we're just kind of getting started, at least in my mind. I'm hoping your mind, too. And love you, man. Really appreciate what you're doing for the brand. Hey.

Let's bring it in. This is a hell of a year. There it is. Hell of a year together. We went from one side of the country to the other. We're in hills and hot weather and cold and rain. We saw some heroes up in Foxborough. And then we wrapped it all up with the Michigan Wolverines being national champions.

Herbie, you've been nothing but a gentleman. Congrats on three decades of greatness. Can't wait for next year when we start in Ireland. With your Florida State Seminoles, Kirk. Yeah. Taking on the Georgia Tech. Woo! All right.

Have a great offseason. We love you, too. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. See you, Herbie. See you, buddy. Love you, Herbie.

Maybe Herbie. See you, Kirk. Okay, as we're talking to Kirk Herbstreit, massive news happened in the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, the Tennessee Titans have fired Mike Vrabel as their head coach of the Tennessee Titans. Vrabel led the Tennessee to four consecutive winning seasons after arriving in 2018, but the Titans have experienced back-to-back frustrating seasons, finishing multiple games under.500 both times.

Remember, they were up three scores against the Chiefs in the playoffs whenever the miraculous run of the Kansas City Chiefs really began. They turn it on, they come back, they were up three scores against the Chiefs in the playoffs whenever the miraculous run of the Kansas City Chiefs really began. They turn it on, they come back, they win. King Henry then gets a two-year, $40 million deal because he's the one that led their team there. Tannehill was quarterback over Marcus Mariota. He was hot.

They were doing it. Then all of a sudden, kind of cooled off. Now, is that because the AFC South got so damn dominant potentially? Is that because Ryan Tannehill maybe found his level after some certain things happened? Is it maybe because they had to lose some guys in key spots

if they didn't play as good a football? I don't think anybody on earth thinks that Mike Vrabel's a bad coach, but I do know that Schefter told us yesterday that Vrabel was not in on the hiring of the new GM that took place about a year ago. So the new GM will be able to get

the head coach that he's been looking for, and So the new GM will be able to get the head coach that he's been looking for and hopefully Vrabel will be able to get to a place that he... Woo! Yes! It's a great day of my life! God! They fired him too.

Fired him! They didn't part ways. They fired my Ohio guy, Mike Vrabel, with Super Bowl champion, three times Super Bowl champion, Mike Vrabel. Firing means you gotta pay him. Yeah. Yeah, you do. Idiots. You don't

fire Mike Vrabel. Yes! So, here's the reason why that mulleted psycho is so happy right now. We're back. Because there's a lot of conversations around new england what's bill belichick going to do is he going to move on is he going to stay there's actually been momentum on both sides as of late bill belichick staying has been the convo but i just watched a documentary series preview about the dynasty that sure feels like probably

the end of bill belichick in new england potentially being announced on apple now whatever the case boston connorors pumped because Vrabes, who obviously has close connections with that New England Patriots organization. Yeah. Yeah, he does. Close connections, I think, is an understatement. He's in the ring of honor. Yeah.

He's in the Hall of Fame up there. Uh-huh. And you, right now, seemingly are six to midnight about the thought of, oh, a guy who gets New England Patriots football is potentially available. Not oh a guy who gets new england patriots football is potentially available not just a guy who gets new england patriots football a guy who just if bill if bill at least i mean this morning we are we are flying back and i am saying bill stayed it's done they met once bill and bob there's a chance mcdaniels is coming back bill is staying that that was the conversation around the Patriots yesterday.

I mean, I'm happier than a pig in shit. I get Bill Belichick coming back. I get Mike Motherfrable from Ohio. That was good. I want to sleep. You see who this is right here? You see this guy? This is Ty Law.

Okay? All pro, Hall of Fame corner. With the Foxborough Police badge. Foxborough Police right there. But one of the best police forces in the goddamn country. Yinzer. Hell yeah. This is a super...

I don't know if you... You know what? Funny enough. I'm not a cop. I'm a cop. I'm a cop. I'm a cop. I'm a cop.

I'm a cop. I'm a cop. Let me turn this around. You see what that score says back there? Wow. Oh, no. Third hole, 32. If that's not an omen, I don't know why.

Oh, no. I dropped the helmet. Oh, you think that's... Oh, if that's an omen, hold on. Let me just grab that shirt real quick. Who drafted Mike Rubin? That's right. There's another organization.

It's a Bill Belichick shirt. So if anything, the shirt falling, maybe that's the omen. Back to the bobblehead, which still bobbles. 32-29 right there against Carolina. Yeah. Okay. You know who scored six of those points against Carolina

the Ohio folk Mike Vrabel I mean I hope this year is fun boys I hope this year and last year is fun I hope you enjoyed the league not being New England's I hope you enjoyed what it was like to see other teams go on and win

Kansas City I hope you enjoyed your four-year dynasty. Because it's done, baby. Mike Vrabel's coming home. He might wear. Okay, so you're out on Bill. I'm not out on Bill. Bill might. Vrabel's coming home.

He is coming home. Guess what? There's been a lot of talk about Bill relinquishing GM duties. What if he goes full-time GM? What if he says, you know what? Vrabel's can coach. I have respect for him. I love Mike Vrabel.

He's been through the ringer. He's one of my guys. I drafted him. He packs dips, sigs, jewels, probably some of Luke's vapes, if I had to guess. I mean, this is... I'm not kidding.

I came into today like, this is going to be a good show. It's going to be slap happy. It's going to be fun. Just like last week after the Rose Bowl. This is a new level. This isn't slap happy. I'm firing him. That's wild to me. Yeah.

Get a chip on his shoulder. Get a chip. Come on. Get a chip on your shoulder, Mike, and come back home. Yeah. It's like I think everybody in football feels like Mike Vrabel is a good coach. Wow. Yeah.

Yeah. College. In college, everybody in Ohio right now, the state of Ohio, is like what happened to Cotton Bowl Classic? Have we beat Michigan in a while? Oh, they're the national champions. We're just a little brother down here, team south. For everyone who needs to come coach Ohio State, Buckeyes.

Probably. There's people in Ohio saying that. Ryan Day, we are fans of. I'm just speaking about reality and just how this goes. There's going to be a lot of humans in a lot of cities that have football teams that are going to be like, thank you, Tennessee Titans for not only paying him,

but also just giving him the opportunity to talk to him. It's not like a trade or a, no, no, no, no, do whatever the hell you want for the next, however long you want in town.

Diggs is over there. Jacked up as well. To quote the great Lee Corso, not so fast, my friend. Okay? If Mike Tomlin's thinking about stepping away. Which Glazer reported. Which Glazer reported.

Shafty said it's going around some medical circles. Why not bring Vrabel home to where he started? And he's Bill Cowher reincarnated. Okay? That's who he is. Where he started. Listen, this is two different. You see that one of these teams is in the playoffs.

Yeah, exactly. Pittsburgh Steelers are in the playoffs. I wouldn't be saying it if Glazer and Shefty didn't put ideas in my head. That's two towns right there. True. That's two towns talking about Vrabel. Now, they don't know if either of those jobs are going to be available. Different situation.

Yeah, obviously. Bill might say we have no idea. That might end up happening. If it does, who knows? Tomlin might coach for another 100 years, which we all assume, but Jake Lazor and Tomlin are very tight. How about like Tepper? Tepper has a lot of money. Second

wealthiest owner in all of sports. He's been waiting for an alpha, I think, to tell him to shut up and stop talking to me about football. You just go worry about your own thing on Mondays. Vrabel would seemingly be that particular character. He's going to be highly sought after, D, but this is not normal.

I did not expect this on this particular I didn't expect the firing. Maybe in partner ways, mutually partner ways, did not expect the firing because, like you said, we all know he's a good football coach, but we mentioned it, I believe, yesterday when Shefty was on the show. Andy Reid, he was in Philly for a long time.

Schottenheimer, he got fired. Sometimes you just need to turn the page. You got a new quarterback, Will Levis. You saw Derek Henry kind of say his farewell to the team. Already moved on from Tannehill. You got a fairly new GM in there. So now he's going to get his head coach, get, you know, a fresh voice in there. So I guess I understand it from that standpoint.

Still surprised by the firing, but he will be, especially if Harbaugh's not available in NFL ranks, I think, you know, Vrabel will probably be in that top slot. I mean, everyone just needs to shut up, okay? What did you say? There's a chance that maybe he wanted GM. Guess what, Mike? Coach, excuse me.

Come to New England. You can hire your own GM. We don't care, okay? Bob Kraft, you were just sitting next to him. I assume there was a couple lean overs like, what do you think about coming home? What do you think about hiring your own GM? What do you think about hiring your own?

That's tampering. That's crazy. That would be a good one. That's not tampering. That's not tampering. That's not tampering. That's not tampering. What do you mean?

You told Tom Bon Jovi? That's not tampering. That's two friends. Just check. That's not tampering. That's not tampering. What, are you talking about Bon Jovi? That's not tampering. That's two friends just chatting. That's not tampering. That's certainly tampering. I think Tennessee's even saying, you put that red jacket on in the middle of the season. Yeah.

Oh, boo, Tennessee. You're a poverty franchise. Sorry, Mike Rable. Yeah, sorry about it. You are, okay? You are. You guys suck. That's the reality of the situation.

Maybe in eight years when your stadium's finished, the new one, because the one that you play now is a dump, maybe then someone will want to go and coach there, and maybe then you'll win. And, yeah, sure. Tennessee's got their new quarterback in Will Lenz. I bet they do. And I bet Tennessee feels that way as well.

But what are the Patriots at? They have a top three pick in this draft. And 100 and what? And, let me, 120, 110, 115 mil once Caspase gets kind of changed and also once a few players who are currently in the building probably end up leaving. It doesn't matter. Why are we even talking about the players right now?

We should only be talking about Mike Frabel, Coach of the New England Patriots, if Bill Bel New England Patriots if Bill Belichick leaves. But from what it seems like, Mike Reese did report at this time it feels like it's a Hail Mary for Bill Belichick to be coming back to New England. So book it. I'm ordering my Mike Vrabel. What does he wear?

You know what? He wears that vest. I'm going to order a Mike Vrabel. You've got to order two logs. Yeah, exactly. He wears that vest. Yeah, he wears that vest. I'm going to order a Mike Vrabel. No, you got to order two logs. Yeah, exactly. If you're not ripping cigs by the end of the show, are you even a Vrabel fan? Tick! Tick! Go get cigs right now, Tick!

Tick is also a Patriots fan. He will smoke cigs. His name is Talk. No, that changes weekend. Yeah, yeah. He had a lot of tick moves this weekend. He pooped in a private plane. First time he's ever rode in one of those.

He also, funny enough, fell asleep in a private plane. Doesn't matter. That doesn't matter. Who cares? I'm going to dump in this place. I'm going to sleep here. Thanks for giving me a transportation. Yeah, that doesn't matter.

He insulted a godfather of college football. Yeah, he did. Oh, I can see it. Yeah, the king. Yeah, exactly. Classic tick. That's tick, but it doesn't matter. Nothing matters right now.

I feel so bad for you guys. Well, listen. We got Shane Steichen, so we're A-OK. Oh, yeah. Seemingly, the Titans are now staring down an actual rebuild. Yeah, stadium. Culture, stadium. Roster.

Literally everything. Which is great news for us, but then I'm reminded quickly that C.J. Stroud is still the quarterback for Houston. Which is not fun, by the way. After talking to him yesterday, he just popped in. Literally just popped by. Hey, didn't want you to be in our building without coming to say hello. Both him and the PR guy.

It's like, thank you for that. And then as he's talking, every word that's coming out of his mouth, I'm thinking, this is no. This is terrible news. Oh, no. Don't ever call him a show again. I don't want to hear anything you're saying right now. I'd like in my head to think that there's a lot of flaws in you because you're leading a team in the same division as the Indianapolis Colts,

one in which I've invested. He doesn't have any. Even the clothes that he's wearing. He's wearing his teammates' clothes to put his teammates over whenever he's coming to a pop. It's like everything about him is perfect, but the AFC South's got Anthony Richardson. Well, hopefully.

Hopefully for 17 games. We have no idea if he's going to make it through the season. I hope he does. Me too. He had, what, four touchdowns in four games. He is a guy. CJ Stroud, Trevor Lawrence, what happened? I don't know.

One in five down the stretch. They fired a bunch of guys. Doug put out a... Yeah, well, Doug knows. We heard Bill Cowher talk. Bill Cowher was like, sometimes you just got to move on just to change people. Doug Pearson saw the end of that and was like, we got to have a little bit mojo split.

But now this cements Tennessee, seemingly, in the fourth spot of the afc south looking ahead and like if raybill goes on to have success somewhere else it's going to be the same exact conversation about like when people move on from great quarterbacks it's like why would you do that whenever we are where we are and what the world's going to look like but remember that tennessee titans organization did trade aj brown middle of draft night whenever they just played a quarterback who might not necessarily be the greatest quarterback in the NFL.

You take away his best weapon, he goes on to have a historic year somewhere else. So there's been a lot of discourse in that Tennessee Titans organization. Hopefully the future will be better. Hopefully Vrabel will be coaching in a league that is not in the NFL. But I'm very thankful he is out of the AFC South. We talk about quarterbacks changing spots and having great success. Matthew Stafford leaves Detroit, goes to Los Angeles

after a vacation in Cabo in which he was sitting in a hot tub with Sean McVay. He goes to the Los Angeles Rams after a lifetime in Detroit, wins a Super Bowl, is in commercials, gets his Hall of Fame credibility basically cemented, and then now wild card weekend.

Wild card weekend. He heads back to the Detroit Football Lions. All Foxy's been dreaming about his entire life as a Detroit Lions fan is to go 9-7, which is when there were 16 games, and a playoff win. This year had their best year by far. Got excrued by the refs, actually, against the Dallas Cowboys when they tried to add a little sugar and salt to the standard reporting ritual

that players have to do with the refs. First time I've ever seen them win 12 games this year. 12 games. Wow. Playoff game. Home playoff game. Wow. Favorite.

Eminem is going to be on sideline. First one in Ford Field history. He's doing the National Anthem. And you have to – that would be awesome. And Ninja is fl in Ford Field history. He's doing the national anthem. That would be awesome. And Ninja is flossing next to him while he's doing the national anthem. He's doing this one. Yeah, he's doing this one. This one here on Twitch.

I like the hat. Yep. Exactly. New Year's rock. He's wearing a touchdown. He's wearing it in there. Playing guitar. But then Matthew Stafford, the big bad wolf, coming back home.

Now, if you start looking at his records, and you add this Pukunukuwa one for rookie yards, he has them all. Yeah. He has every record when it comes to throwing a football to somebody and catching it, which is a massive part of the quarterback statistic. The dude's got a live arm. He's been playing a long time.

Loves ball. And boy, I think whenever he lays his head down at night, he's thinking about going into Detroit and I don't think there's a lot of, let's get back to that city. It's a, could you imagine if we walk in there in just one last noop out of Detroit? Foxy, I know you've had to think about it.

So much. And you've taken a trip back in time a few different times with some videos. There was a nine minute video that was released whenever he left Detroit. Such a good video.minute video that was released whenever he left Detroit. Such a good video. Great video talking about how much he loves Detroit. And then obviously there's highlights and highlights coming out of Stafford

and the things he said about Detroit. He's been nothing but classy. But in that fourth quarter, when it's a close game, is Matthew Stafford going to do Matthew Stafford stuff and steal the joy out of Detroit? A lot of us are thinking no because it's the brand-new Lions. That's right. But, boy, there's a lot of people out there hoping and praying

that the Detroit Lions get Matty Stafford in the first round, and that's got to be conflicting for you and all the Lions fans. Yeah, no, it's absolutely brutal. I can't think of any other playoff matchup I wouldn't want. Matthew Stafford coming home. And you know, I've loved this dude 12 years. He gave his entire to this city, and now this is it. We went same old Lions to brand new Lions, and all we want to see is a playoff win. One playoff win. And, like, aside from all the story and stuff, this matchup on paper sucks. Stafford's going to throw all over us. Our DBs, our secondary, have not been great. I would say Lamar Jackson is the best quarterback we played all year. Absolutely torched us.

Stafford is by far the second best quarterback we'll play this year. It's going to be tough. Yeah. Yeah. So, I guess the Detroit Lions are trying to play a little petty games. What's going on? A little same old Lions games. Is that what I'm seeing from a report?

What? There was a Stafford jersey ban put in place in the stadium. Kind of love that. And then Kelly Stafford responded, and she said, well, this is sad because it's completely opposite of how we feel about this city. But Matthew has always been the bigger person and will continue to be that. Praying for an incredible game with zero injuries. Thank you, the Staffords, for taking a high road.

That is awesome. Do you have like a Lions fan group or something? Sorry, I'm just looking at it. What are we doing? This can't be real. Love it. This cannot be real. They speak for all Lions fans.

I think actually, once again, we are joking around. Yeah. But I think MCDC was the one that said, I'll tell you what, man. I don't want to see one goddamn Matthew Stafford jersey in here, man. Not one. We'll throw you in with the kindling if I see it, all right? Get them out, man.

You didn't do anything for us, man. Do we have any Matthew Stafford jerseys in the building? Do we have any of those? Do we know? No. Truth be told, there's one on the way, Fox. I want you on the right side of history. What's going on, Dirk?

A Stafford jersey. Rams. Yes, that's a win-win. Oh, yeah. That's a win-win. Coming for you, buddy. No, listen. I already rooted for Matthew Stafford when he won the Super Bowl in his first year with the Rams.

I said, Lions, we stink this year. MCDC's got to build the culture. I'll be a Rams fan when we get to the playoffs. And it was a good ride. It was actually one of my favorite NFL rides of all time. But now everything's changed, and we're going. This Lions team is going. Coming off a week of rest, too.

Oh, man. Let the arm rest. It's been all year long. Jersey band a week of rest, too. Oh, man. Let the arm rest. It's been all year long. Jersey band, huh? Yeah. Okay. All I did for this place. Jersey revenge game.

All right. Okay. And Kelly's quote tweeting. Oh, yeah. She's putting it out. She's like, oh, yeah, we saw it. Matthew's heard about it. Yeah.

Bet. Yeah, bet tweet. Coming. Is that a same old Lions play? I mean, there will be people wearing Stafford jerseys. Better not be. The security from Park Prospect or whatever down there in Houston is going

to kick them out. I know we're a tough and gritty city. The toughest and grittiest city in America. But we are a classy city. So I'm sure everyone quick standing up as he walks out. If you guys are the classiest city while also being the toughest and the grittiest, congratulations. Because every tough, gritty city that I've seen, nowhere near the classiest.

You guys must have the most range, I think. That's pretty phenomenal. Yeah, it's just like when Vinny would go back to the Patriots. You know, you quick clap, and then it's game time. We go. Well, I don't think that's exactly what I want. That's what I was told. They said some terrible things.

Yeah. And he won them some games. A lot. He won some Super Bowls. Big ones. Happened last night. We have a new national champion. It's the Michigan Wolverines.

Congratulations to them. We're very lucky to be there. Football is also breaking news in the NFL as a coach has been fired from the Tennessee Titans by the name of Mike Vrabel. I did try to FaceTime him during a commercial break. He didn't answer. Asshole.

I was trying to do some journalism. I got nothing in response. We'll keep our ear to the ground on the situation. There's a much happier and jovial toxic table. Boston Connor, you've been flying around on cloud nine since hearing that the Tennessee Titans have fired Mike Vrabel. Yeah, I was just singing that song. This is going to be the best day of my life.

I hate that song, but that's all that's going through my head right now because that's genuinely how I feel right now. I cannot believe that the Tennessee Titans just imposed a 50-year curse on their own franchise. What idiots. What are we doing, Tennessee? Just so foolish. But again, hey, that's up to them. Ball's in New England's court now.

And Ian Rappaport has already tweeted, obviously, obviously, obviously, keep an eye on New England. So, again, look, I feel bad that you guys aren't having as great of a day. I'm having a great time. Okay, good. I'm having a great time. This is the happiest I've been in. What about Bill? Yeah, just throwing this guy to the garbage.

At a certain point, you just have to kind of listen to what people are saying. And sure, I've said in the know at the time, what are we talking about? What are we talking about, Tommy? But maybe he did. Maybe he did know something. And now they're saying Hail Mary to bring Bill back. That per Mike Reese. I mean, sometimes I would love for him to stay.

I still feel that way. But I have to come to grips with the reality that that's just not possible. But the other reality that has now joined that is that Mike Vrabel is the head coach of the New England Patriots. Do you think all of New England feels the same way you do right now? Sorry, I checked the pulse. I checked the pulse during the break. Kind of split, which is weird because a lot of the people that are now saying

they want to keep Bill, they were running him out of the building after week three. And so I'm going to – Oh, you're a fickle bunch, huh? Yeah, exactly. I'm one of those people saying, okay, okay, I see where you are now. They saw the Dynasty trailer and got all teary-eyed and nostalgic. And now, oh, please don't leave, Bill. They weren't't saying that and now that vrabel's here keep bill keep bill shut up okay look that's not gonna happen unfortunately and mike vrabel's coming home one half of the

hammer died cowboys turn digs here you're trying to push him to go to the steelers especially with glazer who is friends with tomlin reporting that Tomlin might step away for a little bit. Yeah, Titans are just pawns in this entire game. I don't know who is the king at the top here, whether it is Kraft and the Patriots or it could be the Roonies and Steelers because they know that Tomlin's walking away. He's already told them that or something like that. But one of these franchises called Vrabel and said,

hey, walk into the owner's office, tell them to S your D and F off until they fire you. And then we're going to hire you, bring you in, make you the highest paid head coach. Bing, bang, boom. Titans just got played. So I don't think that's okay. We don't know if that's true. Once again, we do not know if that is legit.

Potentially, allegedly that that took place. None of us were expecting him to be fired. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Everybody has immense respect for Vrabel. And you hear this guy, who's been on Bill's side this entire time. I'll be like, oh, they're saying he's gone. All right, if he is, then we got to get the next best guy. Exactly.

And he moved on to zip on the ball Zappy, Jared Stutum, Cam Newton, Mack Jones. I mean, he is a loyal to the Patriots guy. Vrabel going back there would be a great story, but who knows? There's going to be other opportunities. Schefter texted me during the break. He said, that six would make seven if Belichick leaves in the coaching spots. So that's Schefter saying, I was right.

Remember? See, see. Remember? Joining us now, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, a man that flew back to indy with us this morning then hopped in the car and drove drove over to columbus aj hawk aj ohio state buckeye legend ohio legend amanda is one of the toughest humans of all time and a great football coach in everybody's mind is getting a fresh start somewhere else after being fired

today surprising to all of us aj surprising all Surprising to all of us. Yeah, definitely surprising. But I think when you talk to anybody, the GM had come in last year. The GM did not hire Braves, who's there. And whenever things happen like that, sometimes they flip, and I guess you've got to bring your own guy in. Not only did he not hire Braves,

Schefter said yesterday, and I don't know if we knew this or not, Braves was not in on this particular GM. There's another GM that Vrabes campaigned for, seemingly, is what Schefter said. So that was a shot clock, seemingly, since the beginning. Like, you're either going to win or we're potentially going to win. You better win a lot of games. You're the head coach, and that's the situation.

You better win a lot of games. If you openly go, nah, and then they bring him in and go, shit. Great to see you, man. I did want your number two. Love you, Ram. Your number two for sure. The other guy. So now that Vrabel's on the road, there's a lot of teams that are going to be interested.

They obviously, New England, Pittsburgh people, if Tomlin bounces out, if Bill ends up going to New England. Tepper has a lot of money. Would Vrabel not be the perfect guy to go down there and just say, hey, listen, drink-throwing billionaire old man, just get the hell out of my way? Maybe. And that's maybe what they need down there. There's going to be other jobs that are going to be open. Vrabel's going to be everywhere.

That is not what we are talking about right now, though. No, no, no. Ladies and gentlemen, for four seasons? Four. Four seasons now. Yeah. We've had the incredible opportunity to have a conversation with this man every single Tuesday of the season. The first two years we did this back-to-back MVPs.

What? Those happened to be during the COVID years, where there was a lot of other stuff happening as well due to this guy's decisions on whether or not taking a vaccine. Yeah. Had a clever immunized joke at a press conference. Fantastic. Snuck one through the five hole there. Then that came back later. It got real

loud all over the world quickly. Then there was obviously the Green Bay Packer transition era that happened. What I have learned is everything this guy does is monitored, watched, loved, or hated. Last week got real loud.

Last night, there was a loved or hated. Yes. Last week got real loud. It did. Last night, there was a seven-minute rebuttal from the person who we can understand why he was completely upset. Ladies and gentlemen, four-time NFL MVP, friend of the program, host of Aaron Rodgers Tuesday, ladies and gentlemen, Super Bowl champion,

first ballot Hall of Famer, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, Aaron! How you doing, pal? Aaron Rodgers Tuesdays have certainly caused some conversation, haven't they, Aaron? Yes, yes. Conversation, controversy, debate sometimes. Book club, too.

Book club, yeah. A lot of interesting things have come from this show. A lot of people that love the show. A lot of people that love the show. A lot of people that want to censor the show. At least my segment. I've heard a lot about that. There's been a lot of articles about calling me reckless.

Now, this goes back to COVID, by the way. I was being called a murderer alongside of you because I was allowing Aaron Rodgers, first ballot Hall of Famer, the current MVP of the NFL, I was allowing you on my platform. Don't even let him on your platform. You don't think Aaron Rodgers has a platform? Okay, got it, okay. So I was letting you on my platform, and it was injuring people and scaring people and potentially killing people.

That was during COVID. I was getting murdered in different languages. Killed. I mean, it was a wild time, as were you, obviously, but I just got a chance to kind of experience it. That whole conversation came back up now, once again, over the last week. You've obviously seen it all, heard it all.

You said yesterday at your press conference with the New York Jets where you said, I'll be addressing that tomorrow. Jimmy Kimmel obviously had a 7-minute and 32-second diatribe last evening to start the show, kind of explaining his side of the entire thing. A lot of people said they were spending more jokes in there. Yeah. A little bit more jokes. Seemed like it was a little bit more of like he was super bummed out just kind of wanted to get it out there

Aaron I think this is the perfect time for you to kind of address your side of this you've been threatened to be sued you've obviously been talked about by a lot of people yet again and I'm sure you have thoughts on it the mustache looks great go ahead and take it away pal and I want to let you know I will check you

damn right I will check you. Okay? Damn right. I will check you, okay, on anything you say that I know isn't true. Now, there's going to be a lot of stuff you say that I'm all her. Just let me know if I should check you, please, with what you're talking. You have more research than me. Anyways, Aaron Rodgers, ladies and gentlemen. Well, yeah, the research, that's a whole other story. Why would you do any research

on anything, ever look into anything? Listen, I think we should just get into it, though, just so we can have the woke establishment who's just tuned in for this part. Let's just get this out of the way first, then they can move on with the rest of the day, and we can all

move past this. It's been an interesting week for sure, very interesting week. A lot of things have been said. A lot of people have been taking shots at me without mentioning their back status first, which I thought we established with Ryan Fitzpatrick. That was how we're going to do things moving forward. We haven't done that, obviously. Nick Wright did.

Nick Wright did. Nick Wright did. I heard Nick Wright. Yeah. Listen, jokes aside, I'd really like to get into this and then just let's just move on. So the history of this, before I get into what I said, what I actually said, and how I feel about all that, the history of this, whatever this is between Jimmy and I, this goes back to COVID times, right? And in COVID times, he mentioned on his show, jokes about my immunization, which I know you also made a little

joke about it. You know, I'm not going to get into that whole thing. I've talked many times about that, but I made a joke about that. You know, and the fact that, you know, my own research. He didn't just stop there, though. You know, he he made a lot of other comments about unvaccinated people mentioning that they don't deserve treatment. If they're at a hospital, they shouldn't be given a hospital bed. hospital, they shouldn't be given a hospital bed. He made comments about repurposed drugs that were being used all over the world that have incredible safety profiles that were derogatory. He mentioned ivermectin being horse-based and pushed that whole narrative for a long time. He gave a

platform to one of the biggest spreaders of misinformation during the COVID times, Dr. Fauci. So in my opinion, you know, he ripped me about the vax and that turns out to be an L on many occasions because the vax was not safe and effective like we were told that it was in the beginning. There are a lot of injuries now that we've seen related to the vaccine. So in my opinion, you went after me. That's fine. You're a comedian. Go for it. Not offended. But that was an L. Fast forward to, again, unprompted. We're talking on our show as we do about a lot of different topics. Somehow, the Epstein client list comes up. And I said, it's interesting. And they were for a long time, even still, there hasn't been a list that's been released. There's been one person's deposition from a 2015 case, right? But we said there's an excitement to expose

corruption. And what I joked about the other day about popping a bottle, there's excitement about when the corruption anywhere gets exposed and people who are accused of these heinous crimes get exposed, that will be nice, that we can get this all out in the open that's not there so i made this comment on the show whenever that was last year right i believe and then unprompted he comes out and says that i'm an overly concussed wacko in my opinion it seemed like because i believe that there was a list and that there were names on that right so you know, then we fast forward to this last week, right? And I said that a lot of people, and I'm quoting myself here, a lot of people, including Jimmy Kimmel, are really hoping that doesn't come out, end quote. That's what I said.

That's the entire quote, okay? I was referring to the fact that if there is a list, which, again, this hasn't come out yet. This was just a deposition. Right. And there are names on it. student, you know, wacko, anti-vax, anti-Semite, purveyor, spreader of misinformation, conspiracy theorist, MAGA, whatever other things have been said by him and other people in the media would be right twice. Now, let me just say that that is the truth, number one. Number two, I totally understand how serious an allegation of pedophilia would be. So for him to be upset about that, I get it. Did you watch the quote? Because that's exactly what I said. Verbatim, what I said on the show.

Okay? I'm not stupid enough, even though you think I'm an idiot and you made a lot of comments about my intelligence. know you think I'm an idiot and you made a lot of comments about my intelligence, but I'm not stupid enough to accuse you of that with absolutely zero evidence, concrete evidence. That's ridiculous. So I'm glad, and I think we can agree on something, is that one, those crimes are heinous, and two, I'm glad you're on the list because those, those are on the list. And this is what I think we can agree on that at minimum, there should be an inquiry into, uh, their involvement, especially if they went to the Island and in maximum, there should be, um, an investigation into it. So I hope that you'll give the same type of energy

to these heinous crimes when they do come out and the names do come out and there is an inquiry into it that you gave to other subjects that I actually mentioned understand to just finish this up. You know, I do understand. But I don't understand a Mike Foss comment because he didn't help out either. And I'm going to quote Mike Foss. He said, Aaron made a dumb and factually incorrect joke about Jimmy Kimmel. It should never have happened. We all realize that in the moment mike you're not helping you're not helping because i just read earlier exactly what i said so and this is this is the game plan of the media and this is what they do they try and cancel you know and it's not just me it's it's nowhere near just me i mean if you look at all the different people who've been uh censored from the internet during especially during covid um the canceling that went on, the censorship,

using the government to try and censor people that happened. And if that doesn't work, then they go to name calling. I mentioned a lot of the names that I've been called and they don't stick because I'm not anti-vax. I'm interested in informed consent and things that are in the best interest of my body. I'm not a MAGA. I've never had any affiliation with anybody associated with that movement, right? Which is okay if you are, though. Like, there's different opinions all over the place, right? If that's your ideology,

that's fine. I'm not a super political person, okay? Do whatever you want. Conspiracy theorists, that's fine. Because if you look at the track record of conspiracy theorists in the last few years, they've been right about a lot of things. So I don't care about that one. Anti-Semite, that was called, I mean, that's just like, this is their game plan. They use these words to cancel people. And they went and ran with this because it's the crazy anti-vaxxer wacko again, talking about, you know, accusing somebody of being a pedophile.

Like, of course, this is the game plan that they use incorrect but um that's that's the the environment that we're in you know we're there's a lot of people who have been captured by various you know entities government entities whether we're talking about pharmaceutical industrial conflicts, or whether we're talking about believing that the government has a better interest in mind, and we're puppeting various narratives. In the end, if you are not someone whose opinion

aligns with the mainstream narrative, this is what they're going to do with you. It's not me. I'm not a victim. I don't give a shit. Say whatever the hell you want about me, that's fine. The people that know me and love me, you know what I'm all about. My teammates know what I not a victim. I don't give a shit. Say whatever the hell you want about me, that's fine. The people that know me and love me, you know what I'm all about. My teammates know what I'm all about. Most inspiring teammate, by the way. Congratulations.

Won an award in the middle of this whole thing for your teammates. Some people puked because of that. Yeah. Saw a guy cry. Because you were named the most inspiring teammate. That was not like tears of joy. I still, in the end, sum this up.

Listen, I still haven't popped a bottle because there hasn't been any list that's come out. And I'm glad that Jimmy is not on the list. I really am. And I don't think he's the P word and you know I think it's impressive that a man who went to Arizona State and has 10 joke writers can read off a prompter so

you know my education at JUCO and my three semesters at Cal that I'm very proud of has worked out for me, and I'm glad to see it's worked out for him as well. So I wish him the best. Again, I don't give a shit what he says about me. But as long as he understands what I actually said and that I'm not accusing him of being on a list, then I'm off from moving forward. All right, thank you for your time there. Thank you for addressing it.

There's a few things that I'm going to have to check you on in there. Okay, as you're going through. Please do. As you're going through there, I was making a checklist for the CNBC folks, you know, the whole crew. You said that Anthony Fauci was the biggest spire of misinformation. I remember he was thrown out opening pitches terribly. Worst of all

time. He was the guy. He was the one giving the information. He said that's proven to be wrong. I assume you're referring to some studies or something that you have found and obviously you've invested a lot of time in because you've been called a murderer, a killer for not getting the vaccine. I assume you've paid close lot of time in because you've been called a murderer, a killer for not getting the vaccine.

I assume you've paid close attention. If you would like to expand upon that particular statement that you made early in your response there, I think that'd be good for all. I don't know if you want me to, but yeah. No, this is what I'm supposed to write in, I suppose. Yes, this is journalism. Let me indulge you. First of all, there are dozens of studies that have been done by reputable places that have been published in reputable journals that talk about a variety of different subjects, including the efficacy of masking, efficacy of lockdowns, efficacy of a number of different medicines, repurposed medicines, antiviral, anti-malaria medicines,

stuff that was used all over the world. In order for the vaccines to get emergency authorization, emergency use authorization, right, the EUA, this is what people don't understand. It had to be that there were zero early treatments that worked against COVID, right? So what did Dr. Fauci say? There was nothing. There was nothing they could do. All they did, this is the protocol. Protocol. Somebody gets sick, right?

Send them home until they got really horrible, horrible symptoms, and then bring them back and put them on remdesivir, which is $3,000 per dose, and a ventilator. And the statistics are staggering about people who went especially on ventilators especially the the elderly and it's it's devastating and and extremely sad i remember i remember those times people weren't allowed to go into the hospital and see their family right i mean i was at the very and i know it's i know it's crazy and this is maybe an old way of doing things, but I enjoy reading. And when I'm reading something, I may be delivering a message, but I'm not delivering it as my own.

I didn't come up with any of these facts. I wasn't in the weeds. I'm not an epidemiologist, a virologist. I'm not any of those things. I'm just someone who's interested in certain topics. I like to read. And then I take other people's ideas and opinions and contemplate them and think about whether they're true or not, what feels true to me. And then I'll make my own beliefs off of that.

I know it's a weird way of thinking. And the idea of even like doing your own research was vilified for a while, which is crazy. But I enjoy reading. I read studies about this. I've read books. I think Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s book about Fauci is incredible. It also doesn't paint him in the right light. I haven't seen Dr. Fauci file a lawsuit yet. I know RFK Jr. personally. I know he researched and made sure that his comments and studies were peer-reviewed by a number of different people so that you don't get sued, but it doesn't paint him in the best light. And yes, I believe that he had a financial incentive to not push ivermectin and hgq and monoclonal antibodies and zinc

and vitamin d and vitamin c all stuff that was used all over the world i'm talking about in japan in brazil in mexico in budapest in india a state that has 230 million people and at one point had less than like 10 covid cases active when we were having thousands every single day. Like look at Africa, the continent of Africa had very low numbers. And many people think that Africa, there's parts of it that are very third world, right? But what do they do? Every single, most of them, the part of their routine is to take anti-malaria drugs. And when you get into a pandemic, this is again, all I've read, I'm not a virologist. I'm not a doctor, right, in the sense. But I am interested, and I've read these things. And they take a lot of anti-malaria drugs out there because malaria

is a problem in Africa. And anti-malaria drugs repurposed, in the repurposed nature of them, have been seen to stop viral replication and actually do well against COVID. But if that were the case, then these billion-dollar vaccines, one of which, in particular, Dr. Fauci had a significant financial stake in, wouldn't have been cleared for EUA, and they wouldn't have been able to be pushed out. They would have to go through the normal process of vaccines, which is multi-year studies of efficacy, to develop a safety profile. That didn't happen.

So that's my problem. I don't know why more that didn't happen so that's my problem i don't know why more people aren't upset with that everybody who lost people to covid uh everybody who dealt with the draconian uh measures and and that's my last point then i just want to fucking move on but it's like people are always like people are always like you know why are you still talking about covid like why don't you just move on it's ridiculous i'm like well let's see what happened um they locked everybody up forever uh was supposed to be a couple couple weeks right they locked everybody up hundreds of thousands of businesses closed and never opened again many of dozens of people that i know in their 30 you know, who poured everything into these small businesses and restaurants and bars and never opened again.

So they lost everything. They're out on their ass, right? The wealth gap got even bigger from the haves and have-nots. They lied to us over and over. They vilified early treatments. They censored legitimate doctors in the space, like Dr. Peter McCullough, like Pierre Corey, Dr. Corey, like Dr. Robert Malone, who allegedly was there in the beginning of the mRNA technology, and so many more people than that. The Alex Berensons of the world, the Weinstein's of the world who were like writing about this,

talking about this. Brett Weinstein. Okay. Yeah. I was about to check you. And hadn't informed, and hadn't informed opinion about this. I mean,

they were arresting people who were surfing in California. They closed the beaches when 80, I mean, I don't know what percentage, but probably 60% or more of the, of the, of the country is vitamin D deficient. 80, I mean, I don't know what percentage, but probably 60% or more of the country is vitamin D deficient. And you know, vitamin D, you know, does well against the common cold, as does vitamin C, as does zinc, as does the number of home remedies that we all have. But no, stay inside, wait for this vaccine, which is 100% safe and and effective which they told us so my whole point is listen

they lied to us uh many times over they uh locked us up they uh closed our businesses they increased the mental health issues exponentially the uh the rates of suicide went way up and and they're just like they vilified us the the draconian things that, you know, the ridiculous shutdown, you know, we lost billions of dollars. There's no NFL owners who are mad about this now that we look back and go, oh, well, maybe we could have stopped this with a little, like, early treatments or, like, not given remdesivir and, you know, a ventilator to these patients. Maybe like, you know, treat like the common cold where you, you know, you have symptoms and you

start doing something about it. You treat it. And I have a problem with that because now people are just like, oh, just move on. Just brush another rug. It's like, well, I have many apologies. just move on. Just rushing on the rug. It's like, well, I have many apologies. Not by that guy in ABC and not by any of these people who are still... I mean, LA County, we just put mask mandates back in.

Oh, buddy. I mean, how many studies have we seen now from all over the world that show the lack of efficacy of masks? Hey, real quick. What are we talking about? Real quick. Your usage of efficacy today has really showcased your intelligence. I want to let you know that. You've used it in a phenomenal fashion.

I assume you did it because you have become the paragon of conspiracy theories from all these people. I feel like my intelligence has been attacked, and I might need to grab my transcript that I used to get into junior college, you know. Well, you had two A's on that in your name, Aaron. I thought that was pretty clever, actually, I will say. And I did check you there, which obviously seems like you have a little bit more research than maybe any other human that exists outside of the potential doctors that you were there. There's way more people who are well-read, and I read their stuff. But one of my favorite things, and I'll end with this, and I promise I don't want to-

No, no, there's one more thing I have to- Okay, well, then let me get this in. People are always like, you're not a doctor, you're not a virologist, you're not an epidemiologist. I'm like, I'm not. But you know what all those people would say? Natural infection and recovery gives you way more robust, long-lasting, sometimes for life, immune response than any vaccine will ever give you.

All right. Well, I appreciate the bars there at the end from the virologists and the doctors. I thought you were going to say neither are you, the people that are telling you that you're wrong. That's always a fun little give and take. And I assume there's going to be a lot of reaction to what you just said there. Drop the word draconian in there a few times. That felt like it was big. I assume people are going to respond to that. Honestly, fact check it. I'm fine. Let's have a debate. You want to have a debate about it? Awesome. Not on this show, but like, let's have a conversation. want to have a debate about it awesome not on this show but like let's have a conversation there should be more conversations why are we just moving on from

all this stuff when like can we look back now and and learn from this so the next time there's a situation like this we can go okay maybe there's early treatments at work maybe we don't just run a vaccine through that isn't safe and effective and then how many boosters i just saw they're encouraging the elderly to get an eighth booster. Howard Stern got COVID too. Howard Stern got COVID. It didn't stop transmission at all. It didn't stop you from getting COVID.

All right. Well, I appreciate your stance, especially because... But back check me one more time and then let's move on. All right. Sounds good. Then we got football to talk about because a lot of things happened.

Vrabel just got fired. Oh, yeah. And Vrabel's pumped that we just brought that up in the middle of this conversation. But the reason why you feel the way you feel is because everything that you've been through through this entire thing. You were chastised pretty heavily

which I assume made you invest a lot more time in it to kind of not only clear your name but feel a little bit sense of self whenever everybody was telling you you're the worst human on earth. There's going to be people that disagree with you. I think this conversation and this show is actually a great place to go ahead. I was vilified. My, my, my character was attacked.

My reputation was attacked. My sponsors were attacked. I had, I received death threats. So yeah, I mean this, why does it mean a lot to me because I went through that and, and, and survived the winter of death. So continue. Well, congratulations. AJ is also a COVID survivor on the other side of the screen there, which we are incredibly proud of him. I believe I survived a few times as well.

When it comes to Jimmy Kimmel and you read your quote, and I think in the moment I even explained like, Hey, Jimmy did this, did that. It immediately got taken by everybody seemingly. And now once again, you are a human that goes off the grid in 2024. I don't think a lot of people really understand that you actually went into a dark hole for four days and that is something that happens he does just read books and it's impossible to get a hold of you can ask some people so the way that whole thing went with you saying like jimmy kimmel doesn't want to see that

list and i think people that maybe have watched the show a lot recalled the moment between you and kimmel whenever he said like okay buddy and then you saying you want to see it was insinuated though that you called him a pedophile by everybody quickly so I think you could and you've acknowledged this like Jimmy Kimmel has been called a pedophile I think by a lot of people because his name has been on one of those lists on the internet for a long time so I think you stoking the flame a little bit there made the entire world continue to turn up on him. I think that's why he

got so bummed out by it all. And that sucks. And I condemn that 100%. Like, that's ridiculous. Like, any type of name calling, that's ridiculous. And I'm not calling him one, and neither should you. So it's not backing me up or making me feel good if you're doing that. Let me make that crystal clear. I don't take any fucking

excitement or joy out of anything doing that so so don't do that in my name don't do that at all like those are serious accusations meant for people who are on the list and again there was some names that came out recently from a deposition from 2005 but there's still flight logs there's still a lot of other things that are going to come out. And this corruption goes deep, I believe. And most people that probably looked at it believe that it goes deep. But I'm not calling him one. No one should. Don't do it in my name.

Like, that's not cool. I'm not about that. And I have no, you know, no love for anybody doing any of that shit. All right, Jimmy. Come on. Get in here. Team on me. Come on, Get in here. Team on me. Come on, Aaron.

Oh, here we go. Yeah. Hey, we're moving on. I do believe, Aaron, that everything you do in your mind, you feel has the best intentions from your truth and from what you've experienced and from your research. Every once in a while when we're in here talking, some things can be

taken sideways, out of context, start narratives and stories that none of us necessarily love or believe in. Thank you for clearing it up. And Jimmy, hey man, pumped that you're not on that list. Pumped about it. Because obviously we've all been Jimmy Kimmel fans

since way back, way back. Team on three. One, two, three. You're not a fan of them? What was that? That's the problem. You were talking in the huddle there.

On the outside. Yeah, we heard you. Why don't you like... Let's move along. I'm excited to hear if this is over now and we move along because it was on today's show this morning. Nice. Today's show was like, Aaron's going to answer this afternoon. Stay tuned. It was like, all right, great to be a part of this.

How many of those people actually watched the clip and how many people just saw a headline? I don't think Mike Foss watched the clip. I don't even know who that is. But I'm like, long day for Fiss. I don't work for you, Mike. I think you told... I don't know if... What part of this quote did you not like, Aaron? Which part of it did you not

enjoy? Made a dumb and factually incorrect joke. You thought it was a pretty smart, good one. I mean, I feel like I made a statement

about not wanting to be on a list to come out, but it should never have happened. It was a callback you thought to February. We all realized that in the moment. What are you talking about?

Let's move on, man. Come on. All right. We would like to let you know, excited for you to meet Foss in person someday. So pumped. Foss right now is sitting on an airplane watching this. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Oh, he's sweating, I assume. You wait until you be fine. This will all make a lot more sense once you be Foss, I think. But I'm happy we're moving on. Let's talk about sports now. Aaron, this past weekend, New England Patriots, obviously in the middle of a snowstorm you're playing there. A lot of the pictures that come out from that game

and the conversation is obviously, is this bill belichick's last time coaching the new england patriots had a sweet ski mask on so cool only saw his eyes saw the hoodie up over top there was photos that were taking place of you guys chatting before the game started for like 20 minutes and after the game he beelines to who aaron rogers hug embrace and then he goes right to the locker room. You head the other way. Now, the whole world is wondering what's going to take place in New England. Obviously, there's been mixed reports.

Now, Vrabel's been fired from the Tennessee Titans. Conor's celebrating him coming back to New England if Bill was to leave. What were you guys chatting about? And how long have you and Bill kind of been close in Titan this entire thing? How long have you and Bill kind of been close in tightening this entire thing? I think I first met Bill at the Pebble Beach Pro-Am over a decade ago. Probably in the – it was either 2010 or 2011. And I always had great respect for him.

And he said some really nice things about things that i didn't honestly think he knew much about me but um and then didn't get to play him in 2010 uh played him in 2014 uh had some you know a nice moment uh after the game with him and same thing in 18 and 22 we always kind of found each other at some point so i was bummed out not to be playing, bummed out, you know, that this could be the last time he's in New England, but none of that came up. We actually talked about a snow game in 2019 at MetLife when the Packers played the Giants. And, you know, I just think it'd be so fun to have a glass of scotch with Bill and talk ball because his knowledge of the game, his ability to recall things, you know, he was recalling these two specific plays that we had from the game.

And obviously I can do that. I've made those plays. But Bill was on the sidelines, and he's, you he's talking about these plays he saw on film and different things, and I don't know. I love his knowledge of the game. I have a ton of respect for him. I don't think he's done. I don't know if he's going to move on or if their time is done there in New England,

but I think the NFL is better with him in it, and I'm thankful for all the little moments I've got to share with Bill over the years and just tell him how much I respect him and believe what a great impact he's made on the game. How come everybody that plays football or is around football feels the same way about Bill Belichick, and then you hear some media and fans members say the complete opposite? Why do you think football people, and it's kind of similar with you like basically every player not just in the NFL but most professional athletes are like yes Aaron Rodgers

is the guy so like your perception maybe by some media members and by some fans is normally vastly different from every professional athlete and every football player why do you think the same thing is for bill belichick because i'll say for me for how long he was dominant and how much he's committed to the game it's impossible not to respect that but you as a guy first ballot hall of famer why does everybody like it that's in your level feel the same way about bill belichick i think because you realize how difficult it is to have sustained success in the league and that if anybody's ever played against them especially on the offense side of the ball you know what a great strategist he is and how you know we were talking about the 2014 game right pre-game and we were laughing because their strategy was so incredible I never kind of seen a defense be able

to do that and adjust where you put your number one corner on a number one receiver, put your number two corner in a safety, or sorry, sorry. You put your number two corner in a safety on our number one. You put your number two on your number one corner on our number two. And then you put your number three on a number three. Right. And then he's like, man, this guy from Fresno state has this crazy breakout game. Just his recall. It was, you know, nine and a half years ago, nine and three-quarter years ago. He's talking about what DeMonte Adams is doing and the plays that he caught

and the fact that they had to adjust and different things. And I'd never seen a guy be able to do that. But you know, once you play a long time in this league, that these games are won between Monday and Saturday. Sunday is just the icing on the cake. That's the time you play and go execute what you've been working on. But the true masters can win Monday to Saturday, and he's one of those guys.

He's found little advantages over the years that he's been able to utilize. He can adjust on the fly. He can adjust in the first quarters, halftime, third quarter. And he's been a savant ahead of the ahead of the game for so long that uh i think everybody's played a long time just has a ton of respect for him everybody that plays for him too says his personality is fantastic doesn't get talked about as much because of what he does to the press conferences and the media and then he comes on game day and he puts a helmet on so it was like i love this guy how many games are you away from breaking the all-time record uh 15

wins away. So they're saying he's going to go get that, obviously. Will it be with New England? We shall see. You brought up a good point there about Fresno State, a legend. Tony has a question for you. Yeah, and you brought up Devontae. I saw this week Garrett Wilson is switching from 17 to his college number of 5.

A lot of people are speculating that's because Devontae is coming to the Jets. Can you confirm that? We're going to check you too if you're wrong. I can confirm you dropped that microphone last night and tried to play it off. Oh! Swing!

Got cocky. I will say though, you really tried to play it off. And you would have got there if it hadn't been for one of your cohorts there. He was so excited. I was not excited. I was shook to my core. I didn't think that

was even a possibility. That's our thing, Tony. Yeah, it is. We were practicing walking up the sideline. Mistakes happen. Am I human or am I not? Well, we don't know. Well, let's not even bring that up. We've already done.

Don't get into it. We don't need to hear it. I don't have enough information at this point. But the Devontae Adams conversation to the Jets is obviously a big one since you got there. But now Devontae Adams has become one of the pillars of the Raiders alongside Max Crosby and what they have cooking with Antonio Pierce, who we assume will remain the entire role. With what the team was last year and what we got to witness the team be without you there, they assume the Jets are going to make moves to kind of up that team if we do want to go all in.

Devontae's name has always floated. I assume that you've always just been like, if you guys can get Devontae, I would love to have Devontae. But how much of those conversations are actually taking place, especially around now? None right now. Absolutely none. There's a lot of time. I think first part is to, like, let the emotion get out of it and get away, everybody involved, from Woody and Christopher to Joe to Robert

to all the players, you know, just kind of like let the emotion out of it, you know, and get away from it. But, yeah, obviously creating a championship team is the goal for Joe, and obviously that's what he wants. Me coming back is obviously a big part of that, but you need the players around you. Devontae is a fantastic player. He also plays for the Raiders, so there's not a lot I can say there

other than he's a dear, dear friend and homie. And if I do end up making it out to Vegas, I want to see that golf game because he's been working hard, and I think that's one of the things he loves about being in Vegas besides AP and Max and some of the other guys he really likes over there. Josh Jacobs.

He loves the fact he can play golf whenever he wants and that dude is obsessive about it and he didn't embarrass himself at Tahoe and now he wants the top 50. Hopefully I can get out there and see him.

Love me some Devontae. G-Dub's been talking about going to five the entire time. It's a nice coincidence. And as much as I believe there's not many coincidences in life, this one at this point

is merely a coincidence. What do you mean? What do you mean no coincidence? Someone's controlling you? You're being controlled, right? Matrix? Fauci? Is that what's happening?

No, I'm not I'm not being controlled Obviously, which doesn't make a lot of people happy Possibly Well, it does make some conversations interesting Sure You ever get exhausted? You ever get tired? Fighting all these fights?

I don't feel like I'm I don't feel like I'm fighting these fights I think it's the same It's a playbook, right? And the playbook is. Here we go. Thanks, AJ. Tenser, silence, name call.

What? And it's the same people. If you look at whether their profile on X or just their, you know, social media stuff. It's the same type of person that probably has been jabbed multiple times, might be wearing a mask while they're driving. I will say there's a lot

of bums out there. A lot of bums. A lot of bums. This was about the time last week, too. We're in here just kind of wheeling dealing. They make it their mission to try and take me down. But it hasn't worked yet. I don't, like, I don't lose sleep over this.

I'm not, like, up at night, like, thinking, like, oh, shit, what am I going to do? Like, these people don't like me. Like, I wouldn't ask these people for advice, so I don't really care what they think about me. I'm not trying to make friends. Most of them showed their true colors during COVID by turning on me, slandering me, all those different things they did. I haven't seen any retraction, any apology as the vaccines get less and less effective on them, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I've talked about all this shit over and over and over. Yeah, thank you, AJ.

But, you know, this is the media. Many of them are just a blip on the radar of the history of the NFL. They probably intangibly know that and know that there's not much that they say or do that's ever going to matter when they write the history of the NFL. And unless they say something inflammatory about me, nobody's really watching their shows anyway. And that's the other part of it is the people are insanely jealous of this show because you guys have changed the way that they do media. And that's why there's the Norvies of the world and the slanderers of the world.

And this is me talking. Yeah, we know. Nobody wants to be, nobody's clamoring to be on those other shows. It's just the truth. Nobody's clamoring to be on the other shows. The other shows don't have, they can't go first ballot Hall of Famer, first ballot Hall of Famer, greatest college coach of all time on back-to-back-to-back days.

They just can't. They're celebrating when they can get somebody who goes on one of those shows to pitch something that they're working on. This show gets the best of the best, and it does it a different way with positivity, not just one person attacking one side

and one person attacking the other side, and let's go back and forth and see some of the craziest shit ever. And listen, I respect the opinions of actually some of those people on some of those shows. You know, two of those people who are on your network. I actually kind of respect

some of the stuff they do. And there was a recent interview that kind of reinforced that as well. But this is the new way. A lot of people are trying to do it. And obviously they're jealous of it. The old guard is not having it. So they want to slander you

because you're giving me this dangerous spreader of misinformation a platform on your show. So I hope to slander you because you're giving me this dangerous spreader of misinformation, a platform on your show. So I hope you guys don't take it personally. I hope the upper ups know that this is the people actually like, like have a little more affinity for ESPN now because the Pat McAfee shows on and because of you boys and everybody that works on the show,

because if it's gone, we're all gone. Well, the people who are over here on the show, because if it's gone, we're all gone. The people who are over here watching this show, they're going to be fucking watching it back on. All right. Three. Three. Ha! You snuck a couple through earlier.

Fauci's going to apologize. All right. AJ. AJ. But Aaron, thank you for your kind words. I don't think so. I don't think so. Don't hold your breath.

Remember, that used to be a thing to find out if you had COVID or not. Remember, hold your breath. Oh, yeah. Anytime. 10 seconds. Funny you say that. It's a good check. Good research right there.

Aaron, thank you for everything you said. And I assumed at some point you were going to feel obligated to go to bat for us because that's literally how you did it. I don't feel obligated. It's the opportunity. It's an opportunity because obviously I know you guys personally and been on the show for a number of years now. Part of that was COVID MVP years, which I'm thankful for the platform to do this because we had some crazy conversations.

Obviously, we had a ton of people when I made my decision. Top ten stream in the history of the Internet, by the way, that particular thing. And people, you know, there's some jealousy in the world that's ugly. But I'm thankful for you guys, and I hope you guys are laughing as I do when all the critics are taking these shots. At you, at me, AJ for not saying anything. He says a lot. That's the thing.

Anytime somebody says, what does this guy do? It's like, you're not paying attention. Just watch. Listen. I mean, listen to him the last 10 minutes. So if we could go back to the first 10 minutes of this conversation that we said we weren't going to continue to do. AJ. One of my favorite things is going back and looking to see who's cutting the clips.

Is that, uh, who's cutting the clips for, is that Gus Gumpy? I can't wait to see what Gumpy cut for this. Well, Hey, so Gumpy,

that's like a lot of pressure. He's currently sitting in for Zito and how you see the baby. Congrats. You know, uh, Gumpy's the one. Hell yeah. He's going to love hearing that.

Um, Gumpy's the one that has to watch a clip in real time and be like, do we have to add context to this? What do we do here? Did not put the Friday one out. That was on internet. The other people did hear that, though. For yours, last week, there's been a couple maybe that have kind of gone, but boy, when other people, that's when the internet starts doing its thing. Because you set the tone with the words.

I think I saw Elon Musk said that video views are up like 100x or something like that. And he's going to say that right now as he's trying to build up his company back to being worth something. But a lot of those videos, if they're longer than 15 seconds, people aren't watching that entire thing. They're banking on whatever is being said in the tweet or in the post. So it's got to be as inflammatory as possible.

That's what ESPN.com has done forever. You got eight words to do a headline. Just them? Just ESPN.com. Well, no, I mean, that's what i'm saying like espn is the sports leader like there's no nobody's watching really be watching shows on other networks like it's it's espn well we found that out when something very terrible was said right in the middle of one of those episodes and then just the next day show was still still good. Nobody said a single thing. It's like, well, there's nobody watching that show, apparently.

He's the man. But it's the truth. They're watching it on this network. Could you imagine if we did that? Are you kidding me? Right now? Could you imagine? Good night, nurse. Anyways, we appreciate your compliments. You're the man. Let's get back to some sports talk here. Ty has a question.

Well, we only have one minute anyway, so if Ty was to ask you the question, Compliments. You're the man. Let's get back to some sports talk here. Ty has a question. Oh, come on. Well, we only have one minute anyway, so hard out. So if Ty was to ask you the question, we'd get cut off in the middle of it. Yeah, Aaron, I'll just say you were right. Obviously shouldn't have been worried about the Packers at all. They do what they do. They beat the Bears. I believe there was a report, though, that said you either texted Jordan Love before the game or after the game.

Just curious, how impressed are you with his maturation and just like how incredible he's looked down the stretch here with the youngest offense in the NFL? Because I'll tell you what, I'm having a good week so far. Well, where's all the criticism? It's a little quiet. Ah! A little bit quiet, isn't it?

A lot of shit talking. What's going on? A little quiet now. So I don't know if he used any of that for motivation. It's always fun to quiet those people, though. Proud of him. You know, he's a great kid, and he's had a nice season. And a lot of people were piling on at 6-8, weren't they?

Oh, yeah. Maybe even you, too, Ty. Maybe even you, too. Not him. Defense, for sure. I've been saying for quite some time. Please, I had my sights on Joe Barry, Jordan. This is what Ty just said.

Exactly. But he's back. Okay. All right. Touche. Touche. Back said. He's back. Alright. Touche. Backchecked. Boom. Gotcha. Gotcha.

Gotcha. Gotcha. I text him before the game. I think that's 10 in a row now. Yep. The thing I'm a little disappointed about,

I thought that based on tiebreakers, Packers win would mean Bears are third in the division, which means that NYJ comes out to Soldier Field. So we're going to U.S. Bank instead. But, yeah, I mean, that was a pretty master class performance by Jordan. He had only, what, six or seven in completion? Five or six in completion? Yeah. Aw, geez.

Yeah, he played great. Took care of the football. Made a lot of plays. And now they're in the playoffs. There's some great storylines in the playoffs, aren't there? You know, with Matt going back to Detroit and Green Bay going against Big Mike in Dallas. What else do we got as far as those kind of things go? There's some other things.

Well, Jimmy Kimmel, Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, they're playing. That one's a pretty good one's going on. Monday night. Yeah, the Monday night thing, though. I don't know if I'm a big fan of that. What's that? I get it for ratings, but having a Monday night game and though, I don't know if I'm a big fan of that. What's that? I get it for ratings, but having a Monday night game

and then having that team turn around, unless they're guaranteed to play on Sunday, that seems like maybe a slightly disadvantage. I don't know if they can give them Saturday after Monday night. I would assume they're not. Last year it was Bucs-Cowboys, and they played on Sunday. The Cowboys did after they beat the Bucs. I would assume that they're not allowed to give them Saturday.

You would assume or hope so, at least, the NFL. But there is a Super Wild Card weekend, Aaron. Super Wild Card weekend has been phenomenal. It's just like perfect lineup each day. If one of the games gets bad, obviously that kind of gets absurd. But think about Joey Flacco back in this entire thing. There's a lot of great stories there, to your point. Yeah, I mean, keep that up there.

Like C.J. Stroud, the season that he's had is phenomenal. Joe coming from the couch to leading his team. That's kind of a pick-em. Who's a favorite in that one? Oh, it is. Brown's a favorite in that one. You've got Miami and the struggles that they've had against Kansas City has been up and down.

They arrested most of the guys last week. You've got Mason Rudolph coming off the bench to win, what, three straight there against Josh. And they've won five straight. And they look amazing. You got two teams that have kind of been struggling a little bit, at least the last couple weeks, in Tampa and Philly, who are veteran-laden teams, guys who won a lot of football.

So it's fun. I mean, it'll be exciting to see what happens. You've got the two best teams in the league waiting for one of the low seeds. But there's a lot of games that might not be as far apart as some of these spreads, it seems like, especially that bottom left. I think it's going to be a really interesting game. Yeah, seven and a half, more than a ton. Not a lot of respect.

Love it. Big Mike, though. Oh, like Mike? Yeah, Jerry World has been a real problem. I know you've gone in there and had some success, and also you've been in there where great performances have been done at halftime, obviously, with bald-headed, baby-looking adults flying around. We all can remember that entire thing.

Old stadium, old stadium. That was the old stadium, I think. That was the old stadium. Oh, you're old, bro. Think about that. Yeah. Still playing. A long time.

Speaking of that, speaking of you being old, Connor has a question for you, Aaron. Yeah, Aaron, and what kind of C word would I be if I didn't also bring up, you know, if you haven't heard the Cat Williams interview, and I think you were referencing that earlier, Ice Cube also came out right after. It did a nice nine-minute video just to sum it up ice cube was basically just like yeah yeah it's

fucking true uh but aside from the point well ludicrous responded with a dish bars yeah ludicrous drop bars uh you have to respect the bars but ice cube also you know you gotta also respect what ice cube says and i'm not going against ice cube i'm just gonna put. Well, there's like 40 other people too from that particular one. And by the way, I was the Cat Williams generation. Big time reader too. Cat Williams, 3,000 books a year he said as like a seven-year-old. Yeah, very smart person. That's pretty good.

That's a Will Chamberlain number. Yeah, very smart person. But, you know, when you're saying stuff to Aaron's point, sometimes he gets disheveled. You had a press conference yesterday, Aaron, and, you know, you talked're saying stuff to Aaron's point, sometimes he gets disheveled. You had a press conference yesterday, Aaron, and, you know, you talked about how coming into this year it was awesome. You weren't sure how long it was going to be, and then you fell in love with the team and the place and everything,

and then you kind of knew it was going to be a multi-year thing, and then you said again yesterday, you know, you got to kind of come back and reprove yourself. Is this kind of – are we about to enter into scorched earth, Aaron Rodgers, because it does feel like that. And as a Patriots fan, it makes me extremely nervous. And also, is this going to be, you know, a two-year thing for sure? Because from what it seems like, especially from hearing you talk,

which has been incredible all season, by the way, and all those people who are sending your death threats, again, bunker mentality, Fuck them all. Fuck them all. But aside the point again, Jets, how are we feeling going into next season? Is the rehab kind of going to slow down because you have more time now? And last thing, I got a mustache comb. It has changed my fucking life.

So think about grabbing one. It just feels great when you run it through the stash, just so you know. That's a lot, Connor. Thank you. I always look forward to what you're going to wear on either the simulcast or the daily stuff. Same thing, actually. Yeah, I smell like dog. I feel like that guy last night, the cheerleader guy, didn't look around him when he said this is America's mullet.

Yeah, that was quite the – Shout out to him and Michigan for winning. They looked great last night, especially the run game. It was dominant. But he didn't look around him and see that old con man was there with America's Mullet. He was intoxicated by the national champ. His moment. His moment.

He had the sideburns, too. I had to respect him. It was his moment. Yeah, it was his moment. I get it. I get it. Those guys were basing all night. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Talk about it. I heard two ladies each guy. Yeah. Three guys, six girls. Yep. That's what I heard. Shoulders.

Routine. Doing a lot of Arnold press. A lot of Arnold. I wonder if he's going to come on our show ever again. I think so. I think he will. Arnold's the man. I haven't seen him on any other shows, but maybe he's been on those. He's been doing some. Him and his donkey.

We did the Monday Manning. We did the Manning cast. Those guys are awesome. Great. Jets. Yeah. Two or three years, I think. Two or three years.

I'm going to see how I feel. But I said yesterday, you know, I said some headlines are headlines. And if you say one thing and you see them all write something down, you're like, ah, shit. I said it to my media guy afterwards. I was like, well, i know what the headline is going to be i said something about being the hot say hot seat right um and it's true though uh we're in the hot seat every year if you don't look at your job like that i don't know what we're doing you know but every year you got to prove yourself again whether you're the quarterback or any position or the coach, you know, like you go out and prove that you are, you know, a valued asset that you can get the job done and you still got it, then you're going to be around. So that's how I've always looked at it. Obviously it's a little different when you're

under contract, maybe first year, second year as a rookie or first or second year of a major deal. But everything for me is a one year. I go out, ball out. We make a run, have a chance. They probably won't be back. If I can prove I can still move around. If I don't, it's probably going to be it. I'd like to be here for a few more years. I like it here.

I really do. I really have a good relationship with both Woody and Christopher and Joe Douglas and Robert Sala. I enjoy the staff here. I enjoy the guys a lot. It's a good group of men and women that work here at the organization. Incredible fan base. It's hungry. And it's been a tough year. I feel like it's been a lost year. But every time I talk, it's going to get reaction. I get it. I understand it. every time I talk, it's going to get reaction. I get it. I understand it. And, yeah, we're all on the hot seat.

We've got to win. Every year, you've got to win. And it's over-screwed in the ass because we're in New York, but we know that. Don't shy away from it. It's part of it. Okay, so whenever you talk about that multiple-year thing, obviously that's a lot different than what a lot of people thought going in. And with how the first year ends up going, Jets fans gave up hope, I think, on the whole dream for a bit.

Now they're back in on it. Michael Lombardi said it was like ineptitude of the Jets to basically say, well, we lost Aaron. So we lost Aaron. So that puts a lot of pressure on you. Like for next year, if it doesn't go, let's say early, there's a little bit of some growing pains that could potentially take place because you didn't get to have them this past year.

It's going to get real loud, mostly on you though. But you've earned that, I guess. And are you expecting that and understand that that's kind of going to be the scenario? Yeah, I'll take it. I'm ready for it. Like I understand. It's part of the job description. And our media is fantastic here.

They cover the team, all facets of it. They ask tough questions. So I enjoy those times. I understand what's coming. Same thing last year. It would have been the same thing had I started and played well and we'd gone down to Dallas and gotten our ass whipped and been like, oh, well, hold your horses. It might not be a great team.

If we'd kind of started off one and three, they would have been killing me like they were killing everybody else. So probably a little more. But, yeah, it's part of it, part of the job. I get it. I look forward to it, look forward to those interactions, and I'll be ready for everything that comes with it, Yeah, it's part of it. Part of the job. I get it. I look forward to it. Look forward to those interactions. I'll be ready for everything that comes with it. Excited about getting back here in a few months and getting the offseason going.

Excited about taking a little break, first and foremost. We'll see if this whole thing dies down. The COVID part never really dies down, but the other stuff. Then we'll just try and enjoy our offseason a little bit more. On that note, A.J. Hawk has a question. Great. No, I'm not. Nothing about COVID, none of that. I'm just curious, when you went into that, your darkness retreat that got so much play,

how close were you? If you look back at it now, you said you went in expecting like 90% retirement, I think you said back in the day. I don't want to misquote you. We know how you don't like that. But when you look back, what's the chance? Certainly over the last week, hasn't it? Quite a few.

How close were you, though? Were you legit going to quit or retire, I should say? When you say two to three years, I can't imagine you ever really taking your brain to the spot where you're not playing football. I think that was not the case prior to the spot where you're not playing football. I think that's, uh, that was not the case prior to, uh, you know,

the contemplation, um, that I, I was considering walking away and, and doing it right away. But, uh, you know,

and I said yesterday, I felt like it was going to be a one year thing. And then I got out here and it just, You know, and I said yesterday, I felt like it was going to be a one-year thing. And then I got out here, and it just – I kind of fell back in love with the game and the process and the practice and the locker room. And just everything that comes with it. And so – Hey, you remember those OTAs? They were slow motion shots.

So sick. It was like, oh, this guy's throwing the first time in front of all these people. These people are seeing Aaron Rodgers throw a football for the first time. You knew that. Like, even as a guy who's a first ballot Hall of Famer, you got people watching on the sideline. There's a little thing in the back of a lot of you humans up there like, welcome to the motherfucking show, buddy. Was that a part of it? Was that? That's a whole thing, right?

Of course. I imagine, yeah. You know when you take the field for practice, there's people, it's the same thing for games. I feel that in games, too. It's like, prepare to be impressed. It's like, are you not entertained? Like, watch this.

I mean, because, and I think I took this from Michael Jordan or somebody, but I feel like some elite athlete once said, maybe it's Kobe, like there's somebody in the arena that's never seen me play tonight. And I'm like, there's somebody here that's never seen me practice. It's never seen me throw a ball before. It's never seen me play. Like, and I'm like, there's somebody here that's never seen me practice. It's never seen me throw a ball before. It's never seen me play like that. That motivates me. That's like, that inspires me. I'm like, all right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna put on a show. So yeah, like I've had so much fun, uh, falling back in love with the game. And so that's, I think why it was even more

heartbreaking going down so quick, but, uh, I don't think it's going to be one more year. I think it's going to be a few more years. So saying two to three feels like the truth. I don't think one, it's not one. So it's two or more. That's why I said two to three. Well, don't be giving exact numbers, you know, because then they'll get you. Yep.

This lion immunized sack of subs. Do that again. He said two to three years. He's played four years. This fucker. Never stops lying. This guy. Never stops.

Do you not understand why I said immunized? It just became like the. Do they know that I was in an appeal process? Not to mention, I don't know what you would call it. If you go to a homeopathic doctor and you get taken through an immunization process, what do you say you are?

Well, I think what some people would say is that you're a conspiracy theorist. That's what people would say. Well, lying, soft-brained, you know, junior college transfer conspiracy theorist. But I'll tell you what, junior college transfer conspiracy theory. But I'll tell you what, though.

I was proud that Butte got a shout-out because that was a special year for me. There's a lot of amazing people going to Butte College, whether it's the main campus in Warburg or the Chico Center. So shout-out to Butte College. Go Roadrunners. Shout-out to Craig Rigsby, one of my all-time favorite coaches. Shout out to Jeff Jordan, my quarterback, coach, offense coordinator. We had some great times there. Thanks for letting me run BC Check with me so much,

which was basically five wide spread. Check to either QB draw, 92, 96, 99. Get down on the road. Shout out to Buda. Ite. That's good silver lining. They got a shout out last night. Way to go. Way to look at the glass half full. You know what I mean? Actually, with that particular case,

you poured it out of the glass that was half full into a smaller glass all the way full. Did give a shout out to Butte there. Enrollment numbers. Also, with the type of human you are, I think that we've learned over the last couple years of talking to you, feels like you're probably going to go get a doctorate at some point now, right? Because that was kind of held against

you that you didn't graduate from. That seems like an Aaron Rodgers thing. Oh yeah, I've decided I'm going to become a fucking doctor. How come? Well, I was a dumb concussion prone college dropout at one point. That is how you actually operate as a human. Well and also do we want to get into the college debate i mean all right yeah yeah yes ladies and gentlemen it's been a great great book right now it's called the

godly for the american mind and it talks a lot about what's really going on college campuses these days so the fact that i you know only spent five actual semesters on a college, two of those being at a college that some people don't respect, even though community colleges are awesome ways for kids to start their career because it's low cost. Education in most places is fantastic. And a lot of places are really good at getting you to transfer somewhere. So I don't even want to get into what's going on in college campuses

because that's just low-hanging fruit. I had a lot of great teammates that were JUCO guys. somewhere. So I don't even want to get into what's going on in college campuses because it's a, that's just low hanging fruit. I had a lot of great teammates that were Juco guys. And not only is it low cost. And if you get a degree, you showcase that you were able to just put in work for a certain amount of time,

which is what I think college degrees are for a lot of things. We're not going to get into charging an amount of money that they'll never be able to earn back. So you're constantly in debt forever. We're not even going to get into charging an amount of money that they'll never be able to earn back. So you're constantly in debt forever. We're not going to do that. It's the only debt that doesn't get erased through filing bankruptcy. That thing stays with you. Not just with you, but if you die, that goes on to your, that gets passed down.

They're getting that money. Now, you read that in a book. I did not read that stat. I'm supposed to check that. Yeah, please fact check that. book i did not read that stat i'm supposed to check that that could yeah please fact check that that could not be that could be false but that's i believe that's the way that student loans work checking we're checking checking right now checking right now we're not gonna let you get out of here this week no way check it out con man didn't biden forgive a bunch of college loan

yeah i think it's still happening but then they just started paying recently. Yeah, and the forgiveness, if you will, there are a lot of checks that you got to get to. Okay, so they're not just forgiving for anything. You got to have a lot of different problems. So they're saying, we might forgive, but we don't forget, is what they're saying. Biden had a great think tank at UPenn, I think. All right. I think this is the problem

with what... I'm happy you're the one doing this. I'm a great factor. He seemed very happy about it. I love doing it. One of them says, if a borrower dies, their federal student loans are discharged

after the required proof of death is submitted. That's good. That seems fair. However, directly below it, there is no administrative discharge for private student loans if you die. Private loan debts will be handled the same way as other debts. So it goes on to the next line of yeah the next the next one actually says uh if you weren't vaccinated you have to pay your debts no matter forever yeah right after it bag them and tag them uh-huh like doing it yeah all right well we know that the i mean before i go further the

answers at the top of the google are obviously oh yeah first of it i mean there's there's no there's no hey check him check him they say two people that are both qualified to give an answer on something will somehow have polar opposite answers in the same world that we live in right now so whenever people are like upset it's like hey i might not know the answer to go to the other side, but I can find somebody that is credible, smart, presents themselves as a human that has done the research, who will be just as passionate against you. And I think the reason why I was kind of bummed out about last Tuesday is because what it led to was just more people yelling and bickering at each other. just more people yelling and bickering at each other and i think even though you are a man that has been chastised and had a lot of things thrown at you for the decisions that you've made in the way you've gone about living your life i don't think you want to be in the middle of more motherfuckers yelling at each other either i think all anybody wants mostly you is like open dialogue

conversation and to be heard and i think if we can all kind of do that as we move forward we'll be in a much better spot because we're about to enter election season and god damn if we could just talk to each other that would make this all a lot better but what's going to take place is i'm better human than you are no you're not no i'm better human than you are and i don't know if you know this espn that p changes this year to what what? Politics, baby. Let's go. No. And that's why you're a bad person. No, no, I'm not bad. Because of what you just said.

No, no, I'm not. I'm a better person than you are. No, no, no. I just read facts off the internet. No, but your facts were leading to a way that you are. I'm a better person than you are. You're a bad person. I have never done leading facts.

I'm a better person than you are. Guess what? I actually rode in a carpool with Gumby today because we wanted to save the environment because we don't want to waste gas. Oh, guess what? I was also in there very uncomfortable. Didn't have to be. I'm a better human than you are.

No, you're not a better human than I am because you drive an electric car and those mines that they make those electric batteries in, children die every day. Whoa, let's talk about the fucking ozone, though. I'm taking care of the entire world. You're welcome. They say global warming.

I'm a better human than you are. Oh, global warming? You mean that pish-posh they made up to just get everybody into a frenzy? You mean that one? Anyways, that's politics. A constant battle of who's a better human, who's standing for something better. Let's all assume that in the majority, we're all good people and we want to move forward. We appreciate you coming on today, Aaron, doing this entire thing.

And let's keep this thing marching on, pal. We covered a lot of ground. thing and uh let's keep this thing marching on we covered a lot of ground and who knows if we cleared anything up as far as the uh those people who uh are out there saying stuff most of them probably don't want things cleared up anyway but listen i think in general i think you hit on the head like i'm not trying to spread any hate in this world, and I'm not asking anybody in my name to attack people. So I hope that point got across loud and clear, and I hope that all corruption and misdeeds that have been done in the name of harming people, whether it's kids or the common American gets exposed because that's going to make us a better country. Not fighting with each

other about stupid shit like you guys just were, which is hilarious and also disheartening because that kind of shit is happening out there all the time. I'm an observer. I don't know much about politics, but I do know that's what it is right there in a nutshell.

I don't think this is going to change my opinion to those people at all. I don't care. I appreciate that. Hell of a year, pal. We've done good. Mustache was fantastic. Can't wait until next year. Two healthy Achilles.

Wide. Spry knees. Wide. Arrested body and arm. Wide. Taking the field. Wide. A rested body and arm. Wide. Taking the field at MetLife on September 11th, 2024. Woo! No, it's going to be a different day. It's got to be.

We've got to change that. That's not going to work. We've got to change that. Are you superstitious? What are we? I don't know what day of the week that is. It's a Wednesday, Rex. Wednesday afternoon football. Do it, Rog. Yeah. We need to see it. You know what I mean the week that is. I think it's a Wednesday, right? Wednesday afternoon football. Do it, Rog.

Yeah. We need to see it. You know what I mean? We need to do one of these right here. That was so cool. We're going to need San Fran to win and us to play on a Wednesday. That's a Thursday, right? First game of the year.

We're going to need San Fran to win because we play on San Fran. They could choose us to start the season. You're going back to Northern California where you're at that dumbass school. That'd be big. That'd be awesome. Last time we played there, it was pretty sweet, too. Oh, yeah.

I believe that was a Mason Crosby game on it? Yeah. Dart to Devontae over the middle, over Fred Warner. Mason Crosby was back, by the way. Mason Crosby was back last two weeks of the season. Hell, yeah. Congrats to him doing it. Yeah.

All right, Aaron. Have an incredible offseason. We appreciate you, buddy. See you soon. Ooh, coming to the dome. Whoa, that's crazy, man. Make sure you're vaxxed before you get here. Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers.

Aaron! Hooga! Woo! All right, let's get to a break. Who got? Woo! All right, let's get to a break. I'm sure I cleared it up.

Yeah. Oh, I'm sure. It was awesome. Over and done with. People were happy. Can't wait. Checked them. Checked shit out.

People are calling me like a hockey goon because of how much I'm checking. There's only like 400 comments on a tweet from like 10 minutes ago. It was good had a baby gum they all they all listen to the clip too yeah that's what i did right the boards boarding and then he got up started skating again and then five minutes more i want aaron to meet Foss so bad. Dude, Foss was just sitting on a plane. Oh, my God. Grab that bag out. You got to puke, man. Puke.

I need it. I need it. I think he called him Mike Fiss yesterday. Classic. Classic AJ Hawk move. Yep. I got an email from Bruce or something. Mike Fiss, I believe.

This is Mick Fiss. Foss, good guy, by the way. He is. By the way. Aaron, or AJ, have you told Aaron that you sometimes say hello to Foss and exchange pleasantries? Yeah, he actually asked me. First off, sorry if I can't. You guys, I wish you could hear what the audiooss and exchange pleasantries. Yeah, he actually asked me. First off, sorry if I can't.

You guys, I wish you could hear what the audio sounds like in my ears. It's like a robotic alien thing. I can't really make out what you're saying. It's been like that for the majority of the show. But I believe you asked me something about Aaron and Foss. Yeah, Aaron asked me, who's Mike Foss? And I said, actually, he's a really good dude, actually. He's great.

He's with the show a lot. So I pumped Foss up. Atta boy. Foss's new SVP over there at ESPN. Oh, yeah. People kept saying that I attacked my boss. First of all, there's only two of those. Well, three of those.

I apologize if you count. The Lord and Savior? Yeah. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ, yeah. He's all of our boss. The. You know? The. The, yeah. He's all of our boss. The. You know?

The. The, yeah. You're right. But Foss is like the one who has to sit in there in Bristol at his desk. He's the point person for this program. So anything that happens here, all the, you know, people that

don't necessarily enjoy us being at ESPN, they beeline right to his office. He has to do a, come on in. Here's what they meant. They explain why they are certainly pissed that we did whatever we did.

Foss has to just deflect and counter and intend what our intent was. Then they walk out the door. And then somebody comes in. Someone else comes in. How come they get to... Oh, you see?

He negotiated that into his contract. That is how it goes. We didn't expect... Why are they allowed to say, insert whatever? Sure. Well, that's how it goes. Foss puts his legs up.

His shins get bashed. Yep. Then they walk out of the building. And then lo and behold, Well, that's how it goes. Foss puts his legs up. His shins get bashed. Then they walk out of the building. And then lo and behold, just wait. There's more. Looks out his office and sees a line of 50 people waiting out there. Just pulling numbers. And that's who Foss is.

So I don't know if we're able to explain that completely to Aaron Rodgers while we're talking to him. But Foss was definitely going to have to say something at some point. And I think he might have been in a bevy of. Big time. Yeah. Let's get to a break. We made it two and a half hours, boys. Yes, we did.

We did. Nobody expected that out of us. No chance. I was trying to get Aaron to come on the first hour. Yeah. So we could on the first hour. Yeah. So we could rerun the second hour. Just run that Harbaugh-DeBoer interview eight times. Journalism.

Journalism. Check it out. Journalism. Actually, we're probably going to run that right now as a commercial break. So what are we going to do at the end of the show? Should this be it? It should be. It's not getting better than...

Yeah. Honestly. Honestly. It's not getting better than air. What are we going to fucking do? Oh, do you see Dan Jones? I saw that at sea. I saw that at sea.

I did a six-second clip. I saw that at sea. A guy asked, hey, Dan, should we draft a quarterback in the first round? Dan said, I'm confident in myself. I believe in my abilities. That was it. Lead with that. Boom.

I love that from DJ. AJ, have you given your take on the national champion? Oh, I have some breaking news. There's a chance that a recently fired coach is watching the program. Really? Chance. Like fired today? Yeah, let's face them.

Cold call. Yep. This is journalism, by the way. By the way. He was on a bye week, by the way. He's got a bye week. Should we call AJ back? Yeah, well, we called him back

in the middle of that interview, by the way. People were like, why didn't AJ talk? He wasn't even a part of the conversation. Still can't hear us. He's just kind of sitting there like, yeah, this is fun. AJ? The very best is not going to answer, is he? No, no.

Just got fired today. Right now? What are these fucking assholes calling me for? Got 12 lit cigarettes in his mouth right now. Look at that movie. Yeah, Austin Powers. He fucking takes... What do you want?

He's got 80 more beers to drink today. No answer. No answer. AJ, Connor screamed in excitement when he read that the Titans fired Mike Vrabel. Okay, I'm sorry. I heard you say my name. That's all I got. I can't hear you.

I don't know what happened. That'll be a hell of a college football year. Big thanks to Aaron for responding to Jimmy. Did you end in the show? That's on me. My bad. I'm trying to figure this out. My bad.

By the way. Hey, AJ, great show. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hall. Hey, AJ. How's it going, AJ? That sucks. Yeah, it's brutal. He's on next to no sleep. Yeah, that's brutal. He's on next to no sleep.

Yeah, I mean. Did you say my name? I heard. I heard you say my name. I didn't hear anything else. It didn't just. It would be great for the people that say he just sits there. Oh, yeah.

Bro, we were past. Oh, yeah. I don't think I heard him address. You ever get tired? I get exhausted fighting all these wars. I don't think I'm fighting these wars. All right, let's get to a break until tomorrow. Hey, Bruce, you want to give a victory lap for Michigan?

I posted on my story, congrats to you on the natty posing in front of the NRG stadium. And, Bruce, a lot of people were saying, that guy's not a fucking Michigan fan And, Bruce, a lot of people were saying, that guy's not a fucking Michigan fan. That's what a lot of people were saying. I would like to say throughout the entire season, this one much more than any other one that I've been around him, for sure. But when they were going through adversity, Bruce, I was ready.

You were calling him Buckeye Pete Damo before anybody else. Yeah. Message board to Bruce. I apologize, Pete. By the way. Oh, did to Bruce. I apologize to Pete Rabbit, by the way. Oh, did you? Did you apologize? No, I am right now. I have not.

This is the apology. He just checked himself. Or did you scream in his face last night? I have apologized to Pete Damo. Actually, this is my apology. Thanks for checking yourself there, Bruce. It was awesome, though. Unbelievable game.

Just ran right down their throat. Condensed the game down. Took it all away. Congrats on a natty, buddy. There is something we can try for AJ if it is on our end. I'll do it tomorrow, for sure. Can't have that happen again tomorrow. Tomorrow we're a whole different program.

Have you seen the lineup for tomorrow? It's unbelievable. Oh, yeah. I caught some signs of who's coming on tomorrow. Pretty good, by the way. Some big ones, by the way. I want to say it because every time we say it, it just doesn't happen.

Man, that's awesome. Is somebody cool? Yeah, it's someone cool. How about Aaron saying people are clamoring to come on the show? I don't know if that's accurate, Aaron. I've never heard that. We've sent out a couple of burn calls to people this morning. They said, I don't think so, by the way.

Make our lives a lot easier, by the way. If people were just clamoring. Yeah, by the way. I'd love to come on the show, by the way. That would be Dan Marino. Yep. He was on a byeoring yeah by the way i'd love to come on the show by the way that would be dan marino yep he was on a bye week by the way and then he obviously fumbles his words a little bit and then live on cbs says god damn it jeez dan uncle dan yeah what a clip all-time clip that clip is made damn marina need to know, we've been watching your best hits in this office for the last month or so.

Yeah. You're an icon, buddy. Send it. No flubs. Fucking send it. Nope. Don't want to listen to it. Don't need to.

There was no fucking flub. No flub. Fucking send it. The guy immediately. Yeah, no flub. You're right. You want to go one more time? One more?

How about him and Ace Ventura, Pet Detective? Oh, my God. He's legendary Yinzer in the history of Yinzers. Obviously Italian. You know? So Pittsburgh. Got any more of that gum? Mind your own business.

You could have taken a percentage of that movie. Next time I'll take $30,000 This movie's going to fucking suck by the way Give me $30,000 Alright And now the Dolphins Joe Baver

Hard Knocks again I don't want to say it We made big signings today. We're back. Who'd you get? Justin Houston, Bruce Irving. And Joe Bover coming. Joe Bover is waiting patiently.

He's on the practice squad. He's in the bullpen waiting patiently. Bruce Irving's got juice, obviously. He was just with Seattle. Lions. Lions. He thanked the Lions. He killed Derek Carr.

Oh, yeah, he did. Former teammate of his. And Justin Houston did great things for us. What was that, two years ago? Yeah. Lions. He thanked the Lions. He killed Derek Carr. Oh, yeah, he did. Former teammate of his. And Justin Houston did great things for us. What was that, two years ago? Yeah. Yeah. And then Baltimore? Baltimore, two years.

Frank Clark's still out there, too. He got cut by the Seahawks. Bring him in. Okay, so Vrabel's the big news. Yes, that is. Well, also, JJ might be going to the Steelers. Yeah, Van Ginkle out for the season as well, maybe up there. We thought that, though, right?

Didn't we? That kind of the fear. That's when we kind of knew it might be Joe Bover when Van Ginkle was done. Andrew Van Ginkle. Hell of a year, dude. Sorry to hear about that. A lot of injuries to that Miami Dolphins team in inopportune times, but I trust McDaniel to figure something out.

But also, they've been swinging in the wrong direction. Going into the playoffs, Hard Knocks in-season has been covering it all. Don't love that that's potentially becoming a thing. Yeah, a little bit of a curve. Because when they followed the Colts first year, we were supposed to... It's not like a question,

are we making the playoffs? And then we lose the Clon... Back-to-back weeks. Raiders, and then Clontown, and then we're out of the playoffs and Hard Knocks is over. It's like that NFL Films crew works way too hard for it to become something that is like they curse teams. I don't like that at all.

Yeah, and Cardinals next year. Head coach and GM gets fired. Yeah, after that in season. Uncle Dan's unhappy that that's in the building. No, he's done with Hard Knocks. Cameras should be on a bye week. By the way. These cameras will fuck out of here, by the way.

I won't see them again. What did you say? How many yards would he throw for in the modern NFL? Ooh, 6,000. Easy. He just had that quick release. I think he threw for 5 grand in 84, maybe? Absolute fucking howitzer.

With hilarious shoes on. Hysterical shoes. It kind of throws like it. It's been a lot of fun and it's been an honor to cover the college football season and football thus far. We will continue into Super Wild Card weekend, which is one of the greatest weekends of football. Big thank you to

the college football for having a season that they had. Congrats to Michigan once again. Congrats to the Washington Hus for having a season that they had congrats to michigan once once again congrats to washington huskies yeah great season great great season i got a chance to sit down with both coaches day before the game and people were saying i was an actual journalist in there you could see the respect that they have for one another and then whenever you see how relaxed hardball is before that game i think it's a pretty good indicator on how he felt about his squad and the matchup with the Huskies. He's going to win.

Kalen DeBorn, his second year, will probably be back soon, even though it is not easy to get to the top of the mountain, especially with injuries and everything that has to go your way, the ball, the bounce, everything. But what a fantastic showcase

of college football as a whole these two teams were. And we'll be back tomorrow, man. Sorry for mailing it in. This is the first time I mean, long time. Damn near ever. Potentially ever. Yeah. Since

10 hours yesterday. That's a long day. There was those shows where you had to leave and go places and we would finish the last hour and it was basically like there was no show on? Not basically. You guys were pretty good. I listened to you guys numerous times when I was in the car and playing. Yeah.

You guys crushed it. Yeah. Tones twisted top ten? Come on. Yeah, those days. We might need to bring that back tomorrow. I just threw away the jacket the other day. I was going to say the Letterman jacket actually was thrown in the garbage. For a new one coming in, maybe. Yeah, could be.

You said negative, but you just threw your pen. By the way, was Aaron doing that? He was flipping a pen. Yeah, he was clicking it. I saw Dr. Disrespect was not happy with the white balance of Aaron's camera. Oh, really? Yeah, Dr. Disrespect said, watch you on Pat Magphrey's show, Aaron. First of all, need to figure out the white balance.

This is disgusting. Classic doc. And then he said, we're about the same age. I can throw a football further at you. Okay, okay. The best. Dr. Disrespect can spit it. Yes, he can.

And he is 6'10". Yeah, big SOB. You don't really get that whenever you're watching him locked in, you know, killing people and call it duty. He walks amongst regular civilians. The norms. You're fucking talking about a tire.

Yeah. A tire. And he showcases that every single day. Athlete. He was watching. I don't know if he was judging or trying to learn. But he was certainly teaching in the middle of that. And he said, Aaron needs to figure it the fuck out. Always.

We all need to figure it out. As 2024 continues to roll on, and this year has started in an absolutely absurd way. Yesterday, we were doing our show in an empty NRG stadium, just hours before the national championship took place, from the college game day set. And you called a guy a button dick having drunk and was i wrong people checked the tape yeah and there was no rebuttal

i did not get there was no community notes no boom but chef d said he has gotten community notes before and that was a goal and we had to check him quickly and say not for you shifter yeah that's for us certainly something it's Yeah, that's... For us, certainly something. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. Whenever you just break fake news. Well, I was duped and led astray. Last night, you were about the same mindset that you were

whenever you broke that news. And there was a couple different times I came up to you and said, got any insiders tonight? And you said, maybe. They're always out there. They're always out there. They're always out there. Especially in that lobby we were in. Oh, yeah.

Could you imagine breaking hardball? Just going to the NFL. Yeah. With a picture of you and Thamel. Yeah. When your stones throw away from Pete Thamel, it's hard not to. I mean, this guy knows everything. That was not Pete Thamel, though, that's true.

Yeah, that's a good point. That was Slim Pete. You're right. Turns out Slim Pete, a la Slim Shady, has not seen the movie 8 Mile. What? So whenever Bruce, wearing a Michigan hat, comes and shoulder bumps his sternum, and says, everybody in a 3-1-3. Pete can get a little bit uncomfortable.

Pete almost slapped Bruce. Smack him in the mouth. I thought Pete potentially had, like, through this entire – because Bruce is wearing Michigan stuff. Yeah. And Pete is a human who understands what this year has been like for him, breaking news about Michigan. Didn't create the news.

No. Just was breaking the news. Doing his job. He's been in college football for 20 years, so he's done this before. But he was kind of on guard from some Michigan fans potentially acting. And Bruce, just 1.30 a.m. Oh, Slim Pete's over there? That's an inside joke we're having on this side of the room, I'm sure.

It was kind of a dare. I'm sure he'll understand. Oh, they talked me into it. It was just triple A. It was a mistake. I do have some breaking news, if you'd like. Connor Stallions was in Houston last night. Connor Stallions?

Connor Stallions. Where was he? He was post-game partying with some Michigan grads. I don't know if he was at the game. Was he with the team or was he with the grads? He was with the grads. He was with the alumnus. I feel like he probably assumes that he was a massive piece of this entire show.

Yeah. This was in the manifesto. You kidding me? Yep. Page 476. We are near the end of this entire chapter. This was in the manifesto. Kidding me? Page 476. We are near the end of this entire thing. I will be made out to be the villain. I will be exiled,

but I will always be a Michigan man. And when we get to that mountaintop, I will be flying my flag like every other Michigan man. This might be page 96. You started.

He's young. He might be the head coach. Harbaugh got to get out of the way. Jerome Moore probably got to get out of the way. Probably one more guy and he'll be in. There's only a certain amount of coaches that would leave after a national championship. Marissa, the Colgate softball player, big brain statistician for game day,

sent me a... I got to the lobby kind of late too, but I heard Don Yee was in there too. Was that true? In the lobby? No, Gump just kept going around. That's Don Yee. There's Don Yee.

There's Don Yee. Don Yee went up to Herbie when Herbie was down there for two seconds and shook Herbie's hand. Don Yee was in the building. Well, how come Herbie didn't tell us any of that? What did he say? He said Ben was doing stuff.

Yeah, I'm glad that on the last one, Herbie, to leave a nice taste in our mouth, said, Hey, fuck off. I'm not hanging out with you guys. I'll see you later. Yeah, see you in August. That's actually how Reece said goodbye to him at game day. Awesome.

See you in August. And I think Herbie told SVP last night that Ben's next trip will be to Calvo. Hell of a year for you, Herbie. Hell of a year. Congrats, Herbie. Congrats. You earned it, Herbie. 28 years.

Now, there will be Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays, in January, February, March, April, May, June, and July. Stop by anytime, Harvey. Marissa told me there have been four coaches in the Poe era to leave their school right after winning a national title. Tom Osborne retired from coaching at Nebraska in 1997. Howard Schnellenberger left Miami to become coach, GM, part owner of the Spirit of Miami in the USFL,

a franchise that never ended. Johnny Majors left Pitt for Tennessee, his alma mater, and Bernie Bierman left Minnesota after being called into military service during World War II. Thank you, Bernie! He served as the head coach of Iowa pre-tour or whatever.

So not a lot of normal situations where you'd win a national championship and leave. But if your goal was to restore greatness and there's a coach ready to kind of carry the baton, we could see it. That's where all eyes are. And we're also around the NFL to see who will potentially be on the move next

in the coach and GM ranks. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this every day. We're back tomorrow. We're probably all going to nap a pretty good bit. Yep, right away. I'm going to kiss that baby. Oh, yeah. So hard on her cheeks.

Both of them. By the way. I hope she remembers me. That's the big. Yeah. Imagine if she sees. Oh, it's going to happen. Oh, yeah.

Big, big smile. Feet kicking and getting excited. Hands probably. Oh, yeah. One of these. Oh, yeah. One of these. Oh, it's about to happen. Yeah. All right, let's go do that.

Great work this week, this year, today. Can't wait to see the reaction to everything that happened today. Me too. You're the greatest people on earth. We'll be back tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life.

Goodbye.