The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 106 - Deep Dive About Life

Episode Date: September 17, 2019

On today’s show, Pat and the guys cover everything that happened in week 2 of the NFL including Lamar Jackson showing out and why the Ravens might be the real deal, the Packers staying hot and takin...g a commanding lead in the NFC North, Kirk Cousins’ woes at Quarterback for the Vikings, Ben Roethlisberger needing season ending elbow surgery and how Sunday could potentially be the last time he throws a football in the NFL, the Dolphins being possibly the worst team in NFL history, and whether or not Alabama could beat them. The guys also cover the theatrics surrounding the Wake Forest/North Carolina game that Pat called on Friday of last week, Doug Marrone wanting to smack a few of his players in the mouth, whether the Giants should move ahead with Daniel Jones and if Eli is done, Julio Jones being a freak of nature, Pat chats about Adam Vinatieri’s struggles and the conversation they had after the Colts big divisional win against the Titans, and who the favorite in the NFC South is now that Drew Brees is out for the foreseeable future due to thumb surgery. Today’s a good one, covering everything you need to know around the league after week 2. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:42 All right. Talk to you later, AQ. Thanks, man. Hello. It is you later, AQ. Thanks, man. Hello. It is Tuesday, September 17th, 2019 years after I learned this. Nick Morado called me to correct me on this. FaceTime me, actually, I believe. 2019 years AD, which means what, Nick?
Starting point is 00:01:06 What's that mean, Nick? I actually don't know what the exact words are. Oh! It's a Latin phrase. I know it's not after death. Ante domine or something like that? Yeah. Whatever the case is, Nick just wanted to let me know that I've been wrong every time.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I was looking out for you. But you don't even know the answer. You don't even know the answer. You don't even know the answer. I never claim to. Well, it might be when he's born. That might have been whenever he was born. So like 33 years off? Exactly. I've been 33 years off on my
Starting point is 00:01:35 2019 years after Christ. Which in the grand scheme of things, 33 years is a pretty tight window. You're right. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, if you're off 33 years. Billions, been around for billions of years. Well, technically in this particular model has not been around
Starting point is 00:01:53 for billions of years. But I do know what you're referring to. Anyway, today's show is presented to you by SeatGeek, our friends at SeatGeek. SeatGeek is the greatest ticket buying platform on planet Earth and the moon. I'm tired. No,
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Starting point is 00:04:18 Matt Stafford slinging the rock. That's right. Come back and get a win against our guy. Still undefeated. Still undefeated. undefeated one oh and one what if they run it what if it's what if it's 15-0 and one that'd be great be great for me too i'm a big i'm a big mapatrish guy and yeah that would show that the patriots dominate everywhere and well they don't needs that they don't know actually if they do that their head coach is
Starting point is 00:04:42 history has shown that they don't all the other coaches that leave don't do great. He's also got one guy right now who quite possibly is coaching the worst team in the history of the NFL. It's true. They're worse than your Lions. 0-16 Lions. That team was so bad. I mean, take it easy.
Starting point is 00:04:58 We've got a friend that played quarterback eight years. But the Dolphins are potentially the worst football team to ever be assembled 102 to 10 dumpy as a lifelong fan you chose this life you live in british columbia uh victoria canada which is top left of the map and you chose to be a fan of a team that's bottom right on the map and this is your life that you chose. And right now, you guys are in the middle of a suck fest. The biggest suck fest I've ever seen in my entire life. Looked like you shouldn't even be on a football field, really.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Looked like maybe, you know what? Alabama could beat the Miami Dolphins. I think so. Alabama could beat the Miami Dolphins. If the game counted towards the NFL schedule, I think the Miami Dolphins coaches in front office would do everything they could to lose to the Alabama Crimson Tide. How do you feel as a Dolphins fan?
Starting point is 00:05:51 Once we play the Jets at home, I'll let you know how I feel about the team. We're playing fucking unreal teams right now. Are you kidding me right now? 102-10? Steelers lost 33-3 to the Patriots. Well, let's not drag us in. I mean, the Steelers season's over, though.
Starting point is 00:06:09 The Steelers stink, too. I'm just saying, it's comparable. I mean, I'm not saying we're good. We're obviously dog shit. But let us play another dog shit team, and then I'll tell you how much dog shit. But it is getting to the point where you... Hey, I like that. It is getting to the point where even Gump can't believe it
Starting point is 00:06:25 because the other day I thought he was going to start crying. He just walked in, he looked so sad, and he holds up his phone and he goes, to letting Kenyon Drake go, pal. Gumpy, I can tell you this, though. It's better to lose every single game in the season than to go 8-8. I mean, we weren't doing anything anyway. The Lions got Stafford the year after to go 8-8. I mean, we weren't doing anything anyways. The Lions got Stafford the year after they went 0-16. I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:06:48 he's been perfect, but... Not far from it, but... He's the guy. Easy time. He's the guy. Two wins and he's the cockiest guy. Not a lot of talk last year. Let me tell you something about winning and losing there, Cub. Here's the thing. Here's the thing with Alabama playing Miami, though.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Alabama's coach. Foxy gives the worst example possible No because I'm the only other team that's gone defeated No no no I want to let you know I don't think that's a bad example Ty though doing the Doing the The fucking greatest
Starting point is 00:07:18 As if Now granted I'm a Packers guy too It's kind of getting tough for me to be a guy of every team But I'm a Packers guy too. It's kind of getting tough for me to be a guy of every team. But I'm a Packers guy too. Ty is an owner of the Green Bay Packers. That's right. So he literally lives and dies with every win and loss. A percentage of his cash is swindled away whenever the Packers lose.
Starting point is 00:07:42 And when the Packers win like they are right now, things are looking up for the stock market. And I think that is probably where Ty's coming from as also a diehard fan of what G said. Yeah, I mean, absolutely. But also, well, it's pretty sad right now. Matt Stafford is by far the second best quarterback in that division. By far.
Starting point is 00:08:00 In that division? Yeah. I mean, look, Kirk Cousins fucking stinks. Oh, my God. I forgot how much money they paid him. Yeah. Kirk Cousins, $84 million guaranteed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Absurd. That interception was one of the worst interceptions. Yeah, he stinks. He didn't have the arm strength to throw 20 yards out of the end zone. He also threw another one and fumbled. You know? Kirk Cousins is the first guy that I've ever been on a camera on TV being recorded where I said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:08:29 That guy stinks. That's the first time I've ever said it. Normally I give like a benefit of the doubt. I'm like, hey, maybe you had a bad day. Kirk Cousins, probably an incredible guy. I think the Minnesota people deserve better than Kirk Cousins. $84 million guaranteed. And then that Minneapolis miracle, that whole place is like, oh, we're going to be great.
Starting point is 00:08:51 We're going to be great. We're going to be great for a long time. And then all of a sudden, boom, boom, boom, this guy. You turn on a little flashlight out there and the shit just goes to hell. I mean, it just goes to complete hell in a handbasket for the kid. I feel bad for Kirk Cousins because he's probably good at football somewhere deep down there michigan state guy you know he's probably probably good at football even i defend him from day one and this is the first week i told ty it's tough to watch it is he's a tough quarterback to watch play football and like you said you kind
Starting point is 00:09:19 of talk trash about stafford this is why i love stafford because i watch guys suck and i think matthew is like I think Matthew is a lot better than a lot of these guys. I like what you did there with Matthew. Mitchell. Bingo. Another guy. He overthrows. He overthrows. Trubisky did make a play yesterday. He stepped up in the pocket
Starting point is 00:09:38 at the end of that game. I've been hard on him. He made a play yesterday. Everybody said that. Everybody said that Mitchell Trubisky is so bad. And then everybody was like, but we got to give him credit for that play where he completed it and called the timeout. That wide open receiver right in the middle of the field.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I agree, though. I agree because I watch a game UNC Wake. By the way, I was on a live broadcast when a wild thing happened with the clock, the refs, the rules, and the game. There was a lot of things happening. A UNC running back got a ball, picked up a first down, should have sprinted out of bounds immediately, or just went down because in college the clock stops as soon as you pick up the first down. Instead, do-si-do'd, fucked around, stepped out of bounds with one second left. They ruled forward progress.
Starting point is 00:10:32 One second should have been on the clock. Instead, wound the clock. Instead of stopping it like first down, zero seconds on the clock, and the refs sprinted off the football field. This was in the middle of a massive comeback, like a massive comeback. This North Carolina team had done this first two games. We were in it for again. They were making big comebacks, two 50 plus yard plays in one quarter. I mean, good things were happening and it had a chance for a Hail Mary. Hail Marys are exciting. I would have liked to have heard
Starting point is 00:10:58 what I would have said on Hail Mary. I think we were robbed at that moment by the refs running away. And I said, I just, I just want to know if there should be one second on the call. I actually said that into the microphone live on ESPN. I said, pandemonium. Talked about it all. I mean, the whole thing happened, right? Then we go off air. I go onto the internet, and I got Tweedledum and Tweedlefuck telling me
Starting point is 00:11:19 that I need to learn the rules of the game. I need to learn the rules of the game. You need to learn the rules of the game. I need to learn the rules of the game. You need to learn the rules of the game. This is why punters don't get to talk. You need to learn the rules of the game. You need the rules of the game. And I want to respond to everybody that was saying it. Like, hey, I just want to let you know,
Starting point is 00:11:35 I was surrounded by about 45 people that cover college football on a regular basis. Not a one motherfucker knew what was going on. Everybody was very confused. So then we go to a dinner afterwards, kind of get some clarity on the whole thing. I stop by. We have a good time. We have to take a flight out of there.
Starting point is 00:11:49 And there's a lot of people that are asking questions. People are like, do we know what happened to the end of the game? Everybody's like, no, we're trying to get an answer right now. I'm like, so see, nobody knows. And then lo and behold, the next day the ACC comes out and says
Starting point is 00:11:59 that they fucked it up and there should have been one second on the clock. For me, that was a moment where I had never felt like the smartest man on earth before. moment where i had never felt like the smartest man on earth before when that happened i felt like the smartest man on earth and i didn't respond to every human that tweeted me the night prior telling me to learn the rules but they knew you know what i mean oh yeah they had to fucking sit in on that thing and just eat it just be like this fucking guy that i hate knew the rules more than i did and i think the good news here is i feel like i'm a pretty qualified analyst oh yeah i picked the confidence up level
Starting point is 00:12:33 up massively because i don't know any of the kids names i think it's very obvious whenever i talk about i don't know any of their names i don't have one of those play cards where everybody else has that has everybody's names on it mostly because i added the first week i didn't look at it one time and i said fuck it don't need it the second time turns out would have been a nice little piece of information to have uh but the refs just sprinted off of the fucking football field i've never seen anything like that before in my entire life so when trubisky has that moment and he throws it and the timeout is called and it seems to be by the way that clock was on zero that is very very interesting that they put a clock back or a second back on that i don't think you see that on a regular basis normally when that fucker hits zero it's like uh sorry we had to do
Starting point is 00:13:15 it but to get the time out and then let eddie piniero eddie piniero piniero eddie piniero Eddie Pinheiro. Pinheiro. Eddie. Pinheiro. Step up and make a big-time kick like that. Just put him in the opportunity to make that play. It's such a cool thing for that Eddie Pinheiro kid. I am so pumped. You missed it.
Starting point is 00:13:44 I am so pumped up for him. Pinero. Because after the double doink, I mean, the world was captivated by what was going to happen with the ball kicker in Chicago. Third largest city in America, by the way, Chicago. Sometimes second. I just don't think that's accurate. I just don't think that's accurate at all just don't think that's accurate at all. Who's number two?
Starting point is 00:14:07 LA. Oh, I see. I see they're pretty far behind second place, I would think. This isn't a woe thing. This is just like a standard analytics. This is just standard. There's nothing to be changed. I want to do one of those census.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Census? Listen, I want to do one of those census. Census. Listen, I want to read. I got a seventh census. I want to recap. Anyway, Zito's from there. I even got a call for that job. Like, I even got a call for that job. They were doing anything they could to find a replacement because they can't let the kicking game cost them again.
Starting point is 00:14:45 The Bears hadn't been good for so long. Got into a big game. They are an eighth of an inch away from advancing and also an eighth of an inch away from Cody Parkey being a hero. Instead, the complete opposite. We've all seen the reactions, hilarious reactions of people yelling at their phones. I think it's Carl, Barstow Carl. One of the best raw reactions in the history of sport. million dollars how much we gotta pay they lost their mind chicago
Starting point is 00:15:11 lost their mind nagy said i'm gonna get this corrected they had drunks go out on the street and kick see if any of them had any talent they're trying to get vince papali to come out and kick from the streets of chicago they were trying to make it an invincible thing. Then they had nine people come through OTAs, just trying to find anybody that can kick a ball through an uprights. The one day, eight of them tried from where Cody Parkey missed, and all eight of them missed. It was like there was just gloom and doom.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Then they trade for the Pinheiro character. He hits a big one in training camp in preseason, and then he missed one terribly. I think he missed it out the sideline And the Chicago's like oh fuck here we go Going into a season Eddie Pinheiro with that amount of pressure That amount of heat That amount of eyes on him
Starting point is 00:15:56 Every single time he goes out and kicks a football To drain I mean talk about Barry A 53 yarder to win it Has to be one of the best feelings on earth for him. I'm so happy for Eddie. Pinheiro. And the entire Chicago Bears team.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And also, all of Chicago, the third largest city by far. Sometime second. Bird time. Can't just start screaming things. I don't understand things that are false. That they can all breathe a sigh of relief after that. I'm happy for him. Now, granted, if he goes out and misses that next one,
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Starting point is 00:18:54 a good game by the way. Mark Slayer called a good game by the way. Drop it. Speaker 1 1 Speaker 2 Speaker 3 It was beautiful. Speaker 1 1 Speaker 2 Speaker 3 Yeah. He sent me a text and said it might be a single greatest broadcasting moment. He cracks me up, man. He's awesome.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Mark Schleyer has cracked me the fuck up last week. So funny, man. Honestly. I mean, he should go into stand-up. He is a storyteller. He is very good. Very, very good at that. Calls a great game, too. I watched the whole thing on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:19:22 He's awesome. Yeah, it's entertaining. It's informative. He's an offensive lineman, so he's probably opening up and saying things that you don't normally hear because normally it's the same positions all doing yeah the game so you hear from the same perspective i think that's why i could potentially be a weapon in the booth because nobody's ever come from my perspective but also you don't hear a lot of offensive line up there so he's coming from a completely different perspective he was uh barry in number on the other uh in the broncos he was offensive lineman really he had like seven like holds or something like that it's like don't shake your head yeah you know what you mean at
Starting point is 00:19:54 this point in your career if you can't identify that you're doing that and that's wrong i kept thinking like if you two were in a booth together because both of you to speak your mind you know i mean and it's funny it's like i like them a lot there's not a lot i've been listening to other broadcasters because i've been trying to learn from people and like try to pick some things up that i like there's not a lot of people that sound like me out there i think it's going to be tough for me to learn from others i think but mark is one of those guys i think i could learn from because i think he has an incredible personality and knowledge is deep you know i like mark a lot and he dropped before the brand too i liked him before that love him now Mark is one of those guys I think I could learn from because I think he has an incredible personality and his knowledge is deep.
Starting point is 00:20:26 I like Mark a lot. He dropped before the brand, too. I liked him before that. Love him now. That's no question about it. The NFL is dominating the headlines. Ben Roethlisberger, rest in peace to that elbow, bro. I think Ty Schmidt called it before anybody else on our show.
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Starting point is 00:21:35 relationship with tommy john ben roethlisberger might be the first quarterback though i've heard of in a long time right to get this jake delLome, I think. Jake Snake? Nope, that was Plummer. Jake DeLome had his best career after he came back. Carolina Panthers? I remember Jake DeLome. DeLome. Yep. The homie. He was brief, but he was good. Took him to a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Yeah, had a hell of an end of his career with the Browns as well. I saw you thinking that there's a chance this is going to ruin Gardner or Roethlisberger. Yeah, I think the tendon in the elbow is going to tighten up once he gets a cast off. There's going to be some funky butt loving. No, honestly,
Starting point is 00:22:14 you've got to heat up the ice cube. In my real opinion, I think he has thrown his last ball in the NFL. I'll tell you what, the non-contact thing is really the one that scares you in any injury. Because that means it's happening from the inside out. And it's like, how do you stop that?
Starting point is 00:22:30 I just don't know. As soon as I saw it, I was like, well, he's fucked. We're done. He's out for the year. Steelers are now in competition with the Dolphins. Not even close. I'm not worried. Mason came in and looked great.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Mason, you're God? I'm terrified. How are you not worried? Why would I be? I mean, came in and looked great. Mason, you're God? I'm terrified. How are you not worried? Why would I be? I mean, the division's a joke. I mean, you got nothing to lose at this point. The Ravens. The Ravens are so good.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Oh, because that running back's hitting wide open wide receivers? Play the Cardinals and the Dolphins? Still got to hit them, though, bro. Still got to hit them. Wide open? I could hit those. Yeah, but they wouldn't be wide open because nobody would respect your run game. So they would cover everybody.
Starting point is 00:23:07 They would drop back into everything. We'll see. Send them back. The ultimate comeback. I respect that so much right there, Diggs. Just a consummate fan right there. There was a stat last year. He was the most inaccurate quarterback who played all of last year.
Starting point is 00:23:23 You're saying water finds its level i maybe but i or credit to him for becoming that much better in one off season well he's an athlete i'm sure he never focused strictly on throwing the ball but also i think the throws that they're having him make there's only a few of them so the thing about adding in all those tight ends is i mean mean, that's the option. He can run it, but then if he's not going to get anything, he can dump it off to one of the tight ends at any given time, so now the defense can't play either thing. Defense coordinators are paid millions and millions and millions of dollars to figure shit out.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I'll be excited to see if they can figure this one out because Harbaugh, I think, this is almost like a beautiful mind type thing where he's like well if we have 45 tight ends though we have a explosive wide receiver and we can get that rookie uh the guy yeah hollywood brown people talk about we'll get him yeah so we we have the deep threat we have the explosive if we want and then we have all these big guys that can block and then potentially just catch passes if they need to and we got a guy that can run faster than everybody playing quarterback, and he can throw a little bit.
Starting point is 00:24:27 He might be unstoppable. It feels like Harbaugh might have pieced together something that is going to be tough to stop. I think you guys should respect that. I just don't see what's so hard to figure out, because Booger McFarlane told me on Monday night that tight ends either run a route or they block. I've heard that before. It's not that hard to see.
Starting point is 00:24:44 It was so hard not to say that. I mean, I did say it. I've heard that before it's not that hard to see it was hard it was so hard not to say that I mean I did say it but there was a couple times where the tight end was being talked about and it was just sitting there I was like I gotta say it
Starting point is 00:24:53 I gotta say it I gotta say it and it passed and then I think I got comfortable and then I just said it and Adam Amin goes analyst or something and then we go to commercial
Starting point is 00:25:03 I was like you know Booger said that on Monday night. And they were like, oh, why? Hasselbeck goes, well, why are you going to do that? I'm going to have to answer questions for this now. I was like, I thought Hasselbeck was going to get in trouble for me saying it. Because they kind of treat Hasselbeck as if he's like my dad over there. They're like, you're the one that really wanted him in here.
Starting point is 00:25:19 When he shows up in jorts, we're fucking coming after you. Did you hear what he said about Booger? Matt Hasselbeck explained it like, like well he didn't technically you know he kind of i like him though i like that that raven's offense the defense is always good and the special teams is remarkable i think i think the steelers should be worried and who knows what the browns did last night congrats on a big win against the uh the quarterback list jets but i i think i think lamar jackson's gonna Lamar Jackson is going to be something to fuck with there for a little bit. I'll be excited to see what they do this weekend against the Chiefs. I think we'll learn a lot about both of those teams this weekend. I think Mahomes might be the best of all.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Because the Chiefs' defense is not great. Hey, Andy Reid season, though. We are in Andy Reid season, which is something that should be talked about. Andy Reid is one of the most incredible play designers in the history of football. He's adapted with the years. He's changed his game. The West Coast offense is back now more than ever, so it's kind of helped him. But he's always adapted, and he's always been successful.
Starting point is 00:26:20 The thing that has always got him Is either Everybody learns all his plays Because he can't be disciplined with them early Or your defensive lineman Lines up six inches Closer to the other team I think that Chiefs team Could have made a real run for it I mean obviously they did
Starting point is 00:26:38 But man that would have been They're good They are a team that is fun to watch They are a team that looks tough to stop. And Patrick Mahomes is fucking around about not throwing touchdowns. He's like, yeah, I owe him dinner. I guess I fucking – yeah, because I tried that no look. I threw it over his head.
Starting point is 00:26:56 That's all right. I threw fucking 10 other ones. I mean, he's on pace to throw 56 tutters or something like that. That team's awesome. Andy Reid is ready for it. Watching that game on Sunday, too, they try to score on every play when they have the ball. Very rarely are they throwing checkdowns.
Starting point is 00:27:11 He's just fucking bombing it. Third and 20. Yeah. Until you see him just slinging it all over the yard, I don't think you truly respected him throwing it over their sign at the stadium. I think that was a fucking hall of a throw. I mean, optically, it wasn't that pleasing.
Starting point is 00:27:30 It just went up and then went down. It didn't leave the concourse area. So it's like, did he really throw it out of the stadium? Not really. But then you watch him throw the ball on a football field, and it's just so fucking far. And it's with terrible footwork normally. His feet are just flat.
Starting point is 00:27:46 He's a talented fucking guy, man. He is so good. It makes you wonder how people went and watched him work out and didn't want to take it. Yeah, what happened there? How's that even happen? Did he fall? Oh, yeah. Trubisky dropped ahead of him. It was the catch-up. Mitch and Watson went before him.
Starting point is 00:28:01 He went number three. You can't bring up catch-up like that. What's your favorite condiment? Yeah, I love ketchup. What's his voice? Ketchup. Ketchup. Uh-oh!
Starting point is 00:28:14 You got all those GMs with their big fucking hard-o mindsets. This guy eats ketchup. Let's get the fuck out of here. Do you hear his voice? We're not drafting this guy. I think Andy Reid season might be a thing of the past because he ran out of plays for Alex Smith. He's not run out of plays for Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:28:29 All right, Pat, what if we did this? What if you scrambled backwards 25 yards and the defense thinks you're just losing your mind, so they kind of like chase you, chase you, or whatever, and then we get somebody here to kind of blindside them, get you a little pocket, then you can crow hop 65 yards down the field because if you're too close to the end zone,
Starting point is 00:28:48 so we'll have you back up a little further so you can throw a deep ball. So then we'll have a high percentage jump ball in the end zone that somebody will get. Yeah, I like that play, Coach. All right, let's fucking put it in. We'll try it. If it doesn't work, fuck it.
Starting point is 00:29:00 We got 45 more of these things. It does feel like Andy Reid can do whatever he wants because the kid can throw a left-handed if he wants. He can throw a right-handed. He can 45 more of these things. He does feel like Andy Reid can do whatever he wants. Because the kid can throw left-handed if he wants. He can throw right-handed. He can do a no-look. He can throw short. He can throw far. And he can evade if he has to.
Starting point is 00:29:12 He is impressive as... Very, very impressive. He's like an Aaron Rodgers, by the way. I think Derek Carr was very impressed. He kept throwing the ball to the Chiefs, trying to give the Homes more chances. It was impressive. Matt Ryan was trying his best to give that game away.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Fucking noodle arm. That guy has a noodle arm. Easy. Jesus. He does. He does, though. He really does. I understand why.
Starting point is 00:29:38 He's like a tactician, I bet. I bet every play, he knows exactly what everybody's supposed to do. He's probably smarter than everybody, all that he works very hard i assume but there's some things he does where i'm just like man what the fuck are we doing here because he's talked about as an mvp matt ryan is talked about as an mvp because he is he was an mvp which is an incredible thing to be and people talk about him as if he's mvp you ain't never hear him in conversation of top five quarterbacks no never he's got weapons out the ass, too, outside of the Patriots. That's probably the best receiving core, in my opinion, in the league.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Well, Julio Jones is just a, I mean, he's a fucking species. That guy. I saw him playing blackjack down in the Bahamas. Doubled down on a lot, which I respected. But also when he stood up, I mean, he towered. Me and every other Caucasian that was at that pool. It was next level. He is just a special athlete.
Starting point is 00:30:31 I don't know if there's anybody like him. He literally might have ran a 4-1-40 after he got that ball on that screen pass. Gone. Was that true? They said he got the 20-mile hour yeah on that run they did the graphic yeah that's that's incredible right through that ball pads in the fourth quarter yes matt ryan threw that ball as far as he could on that screenplay that's literally what it looked like if you watch his arm like he threw that ball as far as he could
Starting point is 00:30:58 orlovsky was talking about how on that play, Mohamed Sanu was the reason why it worked because Mohamed Sanu ran towards the safety and then he peeled out to block the corner. So the safety thought it was a route as opposed to a quick screen. So that delayed the safety so that Jake Matthews could come and murder him. Yes. And I found that very interesting until I was like, you know what made this play?
Starting point is 00:31:21 The guy that caught it. Yes, the block was beautiful. Hey, don't get me wrong. That block was absolutely beautiful. Anytime you get a big guy out there like that on space and he blocks a smaller guy, you've got to respect it. And Mohamed Sanu, take him on for the team there. Incredible running that.
Starting point is 00:31:38 But the reason why that play, that particular play, is because the man that was – Julio always has beef, too, with the Falcons, right? He knows it. Yeah. He should be okay right now because he just got paid. Right. They said that contract was the first NFL contract
Starting point is 00:31:52 that's like an NBA contract. Because it's 97% guaranteed or whatever. But you're talking about... That's awesome. He got $88 million? He got more than Kirk Cousins? I hope so. $66, I think.
Starting point is 00:32:04 I thought it was $88. I just remember because what. 66, I think. I thought it was 88. I just remember, because what Gumby was talking about, I remember it was like 97% guaranteed or whatever. That's incredible. I might be wrong. What I appreciated from that game, you this morning on ESPN, you're coming around on Wentz, who I love. I am.
Starting point is 00:32:20 He's bad early, though. I mean, God darn, he is... By the way, good for me right there. Nice. You hear what I said? Yeah. FCC won't let me be. Let me be me, so let me see. Try to shut me down on NBC.
Starting point is 00:32:37 I've never been on NBC, I don't think. ABC. You asking for the real lyric, or are you just saying letters? What it rhymes with MTV that makes more sense we're going to go through every station slowly A and E
Starting point is 00:32:54 B and E no BBC now you're playing a game anyways Carson Wentz always starts slow i feel like he always starts slow and it was just like the season where they made the big run right at the end of the season he got hot he got really good that's why when he got hurt everybody's
Starting point is 00:33:14 heartbroken then nick foals came in did his thing magic happened boom boom boom them picking carson wentz over nick foals is a big deal though i mean that's a big deal that's a that's the future of your entire organization first super bowl championship in 50 years the guy that did it for you see you later get the fuck out of here he gets beat up though i mean when it's like i feel like he's got a little bit like old school luck in him where he just hangs on a little too long takes too much abuse yeah he's a big body he plays like ben did early in his career yeah by the way ben luck wentz they all kind of play the same way it's like you don't because they're well they're big they're big people they're big humans so they think that they could take it he's been hurt a lot which by the way congrats that you can take it we're all very proud of you right hey so you
Starting point is 00:33:58 can't you are very tough we think you're all very tough that's that's the thing with luck and i think i've said that this a couple times now early whenever he was like refusing to to go down he was running people over i think in andrew luck said he was like if i don't do this everybody's gonna think i'm soft it's like complete opposite man we think you'd be you know you're a stanford guy you're smart guy we think it'd be much smarter if you just didn't do that because that one truck that you're trying to hit there that one little truck stick over a guy yeah it'll be awesome to watch but man if you if you hurt your shoulder like uh we're all kind of fucked we've been talking a lot of nfl today because that's what you do on Mondays and Tuesdays is you reflect
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Starting point is 00:36:40 get action dot app slash digs d-i-G-S there we go let's live a little let's win a lot let's be smart let's getaction.app forward slash pat Cam Newton he's another one where people think that's like where he's at now sure and by the way it worked whenever he was playing man he was a weapon
Starting point is 00:37:02 of a man back there cause you had no idea what was gonna happen and if he got a man back then because you had no idea what was going to happen. And if he got loose, you had no shot. You had no chance if Cam Newton was barreling down on you. You had no clue. No chance. And now, though, after the truck crash, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I mean, a lot of stuff is happening. That team looks bad at football. When he had that MVP season, he was running up and down the sidelines when they were on defense. He loved the game, and now it just looks like he just doesn't want to be there. Was it the fumble? It was fun. Where he didn't go after it? Is that where
Starting point is 00:37:31 it all changed? Could have been. Somebody would have to go back, but that's probably... Well, it was. The Super Bowl was three years ago. That meant the Broncos. Is that Vaughn Miller? Mm-hmm. Took soul, man.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I don't think he has any shoulders up either to throw. No, he can't throw anymore, though. I thought he got fixed. Yeah, I mean, he had surgery. It doesn't look like it's fixed, though. Well, this last week he had a couple deep balls,
Starting point is 00:37:59 I guess, that were completed because Matt Hasselbeck said that the non-deep ball things got to him, so he went for it. I don't know. I think the Saints are in trouble without drew breeze for six weeks they're saying the timetable hasn't been set there was a timetable release six weeks orlovsky was even saying six weeks i think earlier today because he had the same surgery and then they sean payton
Starting point is 00:38:17 came out said no timetable yet we're trying to get other opinions as well so maybe steve shin the doctor that they were mentioning him going to the hand specialist uh was like you know what maybe we uh maybe we take your acl and we put it around your thumb what happens how does that how does it just automatically speed up like how how does the same surgery from the beginning of time just speed up and it's you know why because people are coming back from acls in like four months and breaking records. I assume medical does change. But if Drew Brees isn't down there, I think that team is in a world of hurt. Drew Brees is one of those guys who is always mentioned in the top three. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Always like Drew Brees. Hey, everybody's always like, hey, don't forget about Drew Brees. Everybody literally says, they start saying their list, and then somebody interjects and goes, don't forget about Drew Brees. And everybody's like, you know what? You're right. Motherfucker has all the records, even though he's short. And he's like, you know what? You're right. Motherfucker has all the records, even though he's short. And he's older.
Starting point is 00:39:08 He's only missed one game since high school. It's insanity. That's the craziest statistic I've ever heard. I wonder if that's because people said he was small. So he automatically equated with people calling him small and not calling him tough. So he was always just like, from Texas, right? He's like, fuck these guys. They don't think I can play.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I'm going to play every fucking game. Even if I can't walk, I'm going to play. And now he's got to get a, the thumb thing, I guess, when it involves holding a football. Yeah, when you can't hold the football, there's nothing you can do. Now granted, some would argue if Pat Mahomes would just play lefty. But that's a different quarterback.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Didn't Jay get his surgery done with the ball to like form around it Jay Cutler by the way the fact that you just thought I would know exactly who that is just by saying Jay that's the thing that has proved to me that you are a Bears fan
Starting point is 00:40:00 yeah I'm a Bears fan for you there's been a lot of questions on whether or not you've been a Bears fan a lot of people have taken shots at your fanhood. I believe Ty has. I believe Foxy has. I believe everybody in this room has basically taken a shot at your fanhood. Except for probably me. I don't think I've ever questioned that.
Starting point is 00:40:15 You've been on my back the whole time. I don't know if I have been on your back or with you. Or had my back. I don't think. But that right there made me think, you know what? If he's just referring to this quarterback that, although in my eyes is one of the best reality stars of all time, one of the best internet stars of all time. Best hair.
Starting point is 00:40:32 I, you say Jay though, I went blank there for a little bit. I literally went blank. I had to figure it out. That's me being Chicago and I'm sorry. Yeah. You're a diehard bear. Bear. Done.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Did Jay Cutler really do that? That's an incredible story if that's the case. I believe so. I feel like I would have heard that. This sounds like a Chicago man to me. I feel like I would have heard that. A little urban legend there. Jay Cutler.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Don. Search it up. Jay's someone who I follow pretty closely. I feel like I would have heard that. I respect it. But if Drew Brees isn't down there, I honestly assume that Teddy Bridgewater will continue to get snaps because he's the highest paid backup quarterback in the game and just a few years ago i mean few is a long time few years ago i played too but a few years ago he was one of the top quarterbacks in the game the
Starting point is 00:41:12 world thought he was going to be an mvp they thought he was going to win the super bowl and then he got hurt in a non-contact situation with the minnesota vikings and it sent shock waves across the entire nfl then he got healthy he came back to the jets for 500 000 guaranteed get shipped down to the saints and everybody's like what the fuck and then they see him doing a motorbike in the locker room and then they say he's dominant in practice and they pay him a lot of money to stay there he could have went elsewhere chooses to stay there but all the while sean payton has been saying that tasem hill is the next steve young he's like hey we got this guy he's like 45 years old he's a mormon he can do everything he's a freak. Sean Payton even says, they say that Sean Payton found this guy, Taysom Hill,
Starting point is 00:41:48 so they love, like, Sean Payton loves this guy. And when push came to shove, they didn't put him at quarterback. And I thought there was a chance that they would put him in. So let's assume going forward, Teddy Bridgewater will have the snaps, but Taysom Hill is going to have a good chunk of offense. And I think they're just going to cycle him back and forth. And I think Sean Payton is a mastermind on offense. It could potentially work and carry them until Drew Brees can pick up a football again.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Like you did and like you do, I assume – I'm going to give Teddy a little bit of a break here. He has not played in a few years. First game in, didn't have a full week of practice at a starter. I'm going to give him one more start. By the way, Drew Brees hasn't missed a game since high school, so there's no thought of getting in. And I would assume the Saints practice that way. Like, okay, all the ones are here.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Teddy, go run this and twos or something like that. So he could toss in a bad situation for sure, but he did not look good. No, he didn't. He did not look good. But that Rams defense is good. When you wear gloves and you're in L.A. and it's 85 degrees out, they're going to get a little sweaty. So I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:51 That's why you think teddy bridgewater did bad well and then the refs fuck you over like i mean they should have been up 10-3 and then they would have covered for sure but i'm excited to see what sean payton's brilliant mind comes up with though down there because tasem hill is a weapon and teddy bridgewater if he can find his form man he's he's really good too. Let's see what happens. It's a dogfight in that division too. No one's wide open. No one's good. Bruce Arians, quarterback whispered down there with James Winston, out of the crab shack, into the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Buccaneers could be good. They showed a lot of improvement from week one. Yeah, strong. A lot of improvement. From week one to yeah yes yeah strong a lot of improvement from week one a week till you make your biggest improvements and they made big improvements let's assume they keep doing it i trust the coaches that are down there i like the coaches that are that are down there a lot of people talk about bruce aaron so you're not talking about his clyde christiansen who's the quarterback coach down there he was with peyton all those years he
Starting point is 00:43:42 was with luck all those years he is very well liked by all the players that play for him because he's just a relatable guy, and he also knows his shit inside and out. Super religious guy would never say the word shit, but he's an incredible coach. Great golfer, too. The other old guys down there, too. Tom Moore?
Starting point is 00:44:00 Yep. Let's assume that they can figure it out. There's probably, and this is not an exaggeration, there's probably 250 years of football experience on that coach's staff. That's assume that they can figure it out. There's probably, and this is not an exaggeration, there's probably 250 years of football experience on that coaching staff down there. That's a lot. That's a lot. That's probably 100. Wow, buddy.
Starting point is 00:44:13 It's probably 100. There's probably 150 years of football experience on that coaching staff down there. That's a lot. Yeah. There's probably 150 fucking years. Bowles is DC. He's always been great as DC. Tom Moore has been coaching for, I think, 60 years.
Starting point is 00:44:27 It might be 50, but still. I mean, yeah. That's a huge chunk. Clyde Christensen, probably 30 years. Bruce is 30. Bruce is 30. There's probably 150 years of coaching experience. I mean, he woke up and his kid was 40 years old.
Starting point is 00:44:38 That's why he retired the first time. That's one of my favorite press conference quotes of all time, by the way. Shout out to Bruce Vance being back in the game. But when he said, I woke up one morning and it was my son's 40th birthday, and I said, 40? Where'd the years go? That is a hilarious quote. I'm happy he's back in the game.
Starting point is 00:44:56 The game's better that way. The problem with Tampa is they're not feeding their tight end, O.J. Howard, who's arguably, outside of Mike Evans, their biggest threat on the offense. And I know this because he's on my fantasy team, and he's put up zero points in two weeks. Get this guy the ball. You want to win? He's a stud. Get O.J. Howard the ball. I think that is
Starting point is 00:45:14 a recipe for success in the NFL. Easy check down. Jameis, you know, protect the ball. Don't turn it over. Feed your tight end. Giant situation's insanity. Eli Manning's getting booed again. Yeah, he should. Thanks. He's been bad for a few years now.
Starting point is 00:45:30 He's Eli Manning, though. I know. But the team is so bad around him. How long do you hold on? They don't have as much of an argument as they should have. So right after the bye week, I think. I think you hang on to him until bye week. And DJ, Daniel Jones looked good preseason.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Yeah, but preseason's preseason, you know what I mean? A lot daniel jones looked good preseason yeah but but he's gonna get killed it's preseason you know what i mean a lot of people not playing in preseason that's like uh i think chase daniel dominates in preseason that's why he has a job so i think a lot of people's potential not chase daniel couldn't dominate race i mean you never fucking see it but preseason a whole different ball game i think it is like an all-star game everywhere you know what i mean yeah a lot of canadian football league players playing there you got a lot of mcdonald's guys working there just like you look in the mirror and you're like well i know this team's not gonna make the playoffs i know they're not probably even gonna be 500 maybe get the the young quarterback some experience or maybe you're getting experience
Starting point is 00:46:18 yeah by watching eli let him learn watch eli like handle the media and watch eli handle the meetings and watch eli handle the off the field stuff if the meetings and watch Eli handle the off-the-field stuff. If your team's going to suck, why put them in there and get them ruined? Let him learn there a little bit. Almost about done for the day. And now time for a reading by Zito. Thank you, Pat.
Starting point is 00:46:42 No problem, Zito. Just cough right into that mic. Bye, Zito. Thank you, Pat. No problem, Zito. Just cough right into that mic. All right, listeners. That's aggressive.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Mm-hmm. All right, listeners. Oh, seductive Z. Yeah, yeah. He's been calling himself nicknames, by the way. Things happen. He's just throwing it out there. Artsy Z.
Starting point is 00:47:04 He got a good shot. It's outrageous. It was a very Artsy Zeke, he got a good shot. It's outrageous. It was a very artsy shot. Yeah, seductive Zeke. All right, listeners. Creepy Zeke. All right, listeners. I'm holding something awesome in my hand right now.
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Starting point is 00:47:35 Oh, spoiler alert. In fact, it is. What is liquid death like? Zito, go ahead and ad lib. Yeah, here we go. We got some people are afraid of it. No, no, no. What is liquid death like uh zito go ahead and ad lib yeah here we go we got some uh some people are afraid of it no no no what is liquid death like just go ahead and ad lib you've tried it you like the product you've read this ad read before but now that you can't because ty just completely cucked it what do you think of liquid death as a salesperson for Liquid Death. I'm going to tell you, it's so good.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Nailed it. It tastes so good when it hits the lips. It does. It is actually incredible. Yeah, it is. It's water in a can. I don't know why it tastes better than bottled water, but it does. It's cold. I don't know why.
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Starting point is 00:48:27 They want it to be a surprise to go to the website to buy the Lambos. This water, I don't know how they keep it cold from the Alps, but when it gets here, you put it in the fridge, and because it's in a can, it does feel remarkably colder. It does. It's incredible. And it's a cool-looking can, too. It's like the coolest-looking beverage can I've ever seen. I would agree with that, actually. It's clean. It looks's a cool-looking can, too. It's like the coolest-looking beverage can I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:48:45 I would agree with that, actually. It's clean. It looks like a beer can. I like beer. They actually even say that in the ad. I believe. My friends like beer. I still like beer.
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Starting point is 00:49:50 Atta boy Z way to go, buddy. Hey, you're starting to put sentences together. I know that's pretty good. Cause it used to be just one sentence at a time, but that time I think you put two sentences together a couple of different times.
Starting point is 00:50:04 I think it's like a, like a sniper. It's your breathing. It's what it is for me. I've got to figure out my breathing with the sentence cadence. See, I ran out of air there. That's what happened to me every once in a while. It happened on the game. I was in the
Starting point is 00:50:18 middle of a great run. I knew it. And at the end it was just puckered out. I just had to spit something out the end. I was about to choke myself to death, basically. Because there's zero air left in your lungs. That's what that means. Oh, yeah. That's every sentence for me.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And then... You know that's what the apostrophes are for, right? What? The commas. Oh, that was a head nod. Yeah. He holds his breath the entire time. Catch it up. Well well back to the show but i i wonder if eli manning's having the thought that i think vinatieri was having where he's potentially a liability to his team i talked to vinatieri
Starting point is 00:50:57 after the game on sunday against the titans where he missed two extra points after missing two kicks in the first week. And Stephen Holder basically alluded, suggested that Vinatieri was going to retire, right? So the internet was abuzz, especially because he's an old man in the game and he's had a rough couple outings. So I wanted to talk to him. I wanted to make sure he knew that whatever the fuck he wanted to do is what he should do he shouldn't feel pressured by anybody other than himself and his family to do his thing so i got a chance to talk to him and i didn't ask him because i'm in the media technically now what he was going to do i just had a full conversation with him and it felt to me as if he felt that he was a liability to the team the first two weeks he said i i didn't do my because you're talking about a guy who's been great forever so whenever you're not great you immediately like fuck this team's really good I'm not doing good you start looking
Starting point is 00:51:48 in the mirror and if you're a guy who has any morality at all you start taking accountability for yourself which is why Vinatieri is that I'm Vinatieri so I heard him getting bummed out about himself and I gave him uh you know speech about him being the greatest of all time and the whole thing and then he said he he didn't know what he wanted to do. He said he was trying to figure it out. After the first week, he said if I was the GM, I'd cut me, and then he had another bad week. So I think mentally he was in a couple different spots.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And then yesterday it came out that Frank Reich said that Vinatieri would be back. And what Adam Vinatieri will do is he'll bounce back because that's what the greatest of all time does yeah and i think the thought that adam venetary in his head was potentially going to go out on a bad note wasn't something that venetary would be able to sleep with forever that's kind of the feeling i got talking to him i told him i would support him whatever he does obviously he's the greatest of all time we're gonna be in the hall of fame who gives a fuck whatever you choose to do
Starting point is 00:52:44 right go do what makes you happy and your family happy but i don't think he wanted to go out like that i wonder if elon manning's having that same thought you know like because every game it seems like he's going for it you know every game he's going for it he's trying to make that it's like hasselbeck when he came to the colts and he had that run with us at the end it was almost like hasselbeck was like i want to prove to people i still got it and hasselbeck fucking did by the like Hasselbeck was like, I want to prove to people I still got it. And Hasselbeck fucking did, by the way. Hasselbeck completely did. Played his ass off.
Starting point is 00:53:08 Played his ass off with a team that wasn't incredible at the time, banged up team, and he won a lot of games for us. And then he got offered a cush TV job. So Hasselbeck, whenever he's at home or whatever, he's thinking, you know what, my last ball was good ball. I wonder if Eli ever has that thought. I wonder if it's eating him alive that all of it because you never really hear hear him talk about it you always hear people from
Starting point is 00:53:29 outside talk about how eli's doing this he likes doing that you never hear eli be like man you think i fucking want to do this like this isn't you know what i mean and that's the thought that i i try to think about every once in a while whenever i'm like yeah get the fuck out of the game it's like i wonder what because eli's accomplished a lot of great things but it's been tough man it has to be tough i assume this i assume this happens in all sports though but no one's like when you watch the games no one's killing him because their team is so fucking bad have so have been back you lose your excuses when that happens you know what i mean like yeah he has zero mobility left like he can't run for shit but he's like
Starting point is 00:54:03 hitting guys and they're dropping passes i mean he's not looking horrible i wonder if eli manning goes you know if they would drop an offense where i could just sit back here and throw the ball like tom brady's got i wonder how fucking good i am oh yeah by the way that offensive line up there doesn't get enough credit i don't think and i think their defense is really good too and i think tom knows it by the way and tom is so good at what he does today on social media he posted a video by the way the greatest of all time to social media so anytime you hear any coach or any anything say social media is getting in the way literally the greatest person to ever play football does social media on a very regular basis so debunked theory from bullshit coach right there i mean
Starting point is 00:54:46 that's just number one first and foremost only thing he did in the video though was thank the defense and i think he thanks his offensive line i think he's just so smart so good and i don't think they're stoppable i have no idea what's going to happen antonio brown especially after there's another uh allegation coming out out. The distractions seem to be mounting off the field. They're terrible, by the way, if they're all true. They're absolutely terrible, so I'm not sure. But they don't need Antonio Brown. They fed him early just because they got to play the player here, right? Let's coach the player. Let's make the player the best player he could possibly be. Antonio Brown is a much better player whenever you feed him earlier
Starting point is 00:55:21 and he knows he's a part of the plan. Then he's just happy. He wants to be part of the team that's just the way he is when you get antonio brown that's what antonio brown is that is the on the field that is what antonio brown is so they did that very early and then they're like all right he's happy got a touchdown fuck it now we can just do whatever we know they'll build on that i assume if he sticks around but that team they just look their defense is so good now granted granted they're playing yumpy's team which is a bad team can't really judge it or maybe they're just that good going going back to the super bowl they've given up nine points in three games. What a fucking joke. Do you hear that?
Starting point is 00:56:08 So not only do you have Tom Brady, the greatest quarterback of all time, Josh McDaniels, who's arguably the best architect of offense in history because they innovate every single game. They play against your weakness. They don't play what their strengths are. They adapt every single week. So it's fun probably for them, by the way, to put a game plan together whenever teams change so it's not like they're getting stale it's not like yeah we're running this we're running this we're running this every week it's
Starting point is 00:56:31 like oh we found a weakness on this particular thing so let's go ahead and draw plays to make that work so it's it's probably a lot of fun to be in there granted i'm not saying the patriot way is a fun thing it's probably a grind like a motherfucker but when it comes to creativity yeah i'm sure it's great for the minds that are in that room yes it's a challenge yeah it's a new challenge you don't get bored by you you're the greatest of all time you have to be challenged by something i would assume that happens but then you have a defense that just that just starts doing that it's like what are we even doing here what are we even doing here at what point do they change the name of the trophy
Starting point is 00:57:02 ty at what point do they change the name of the trophy, Ty? At what point do they change the name of the trophy? I mean, they won't ever do that, but they're not losing anytime soon either. No, their schedule is top kick. Jets, Bills, Redskins, Giants, Jets. Don't sleep on the Bills.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Do not sleep on the Bills. They're playing some football right now. Josh allen's gaining confidence too and we watch him at top golf once he gets confidence going he gets rolling he's a confidence guy and i think he's getting confident here early and you got frank or in the backfield still let's make sure that that respect he just loves football man that guy's gonna be running for a long time i think the bills could potentially give them a little something it is in buffalo okay now we're talking about Bills flying around.
Starting point is 00:57:46 We've got tables being crashed. Their defense is good. Defense is good, Josh Allen. That is a potential... We are not saying... No, we're not. We are not saying that that is a win, but we're saying I think the Bills could give them a bit of a game. They've played them. That coach has played them now
Starting point is 00:58:02 numerous times over the past three years. Six times, I'd assume. He's been there for three years? Yeah. So he's played him. That coach has played them now numerous times over the past three years. Six times, I'd assume, right? He's been there for three years? Yeah. So he's played him. Is this his third year or fourth year? This might be his fourth year. Nick Dermott's been there a bit.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Okay, so he's played him six times. I mean, you would hope at some point you'd get a read on him. But who knows? They're just so damn good. The NFL is awesome. I love football. I just love everything about it. From Schefter, eight minutes ago,
Starting point is 00:58:28 the Jaguars could trade Jalen Ramsey this week and won at least a first-round pick. Doug Marone, Jalen Ramsey, ding, ding, ding. Not a good move whenever Tom Coughlin's calling the shots up there. Unless Jalen wanted out. Jalen Ramsey saw Gardner Minshew with his mustache and said, I'm a fucking player. What's that all about?
Starting point is 00:58:50 I like that Minshew guy. Why does Jalen want out of there? It was obvious he wants out of there. You don't just fight your coach on the sideline, especially whenever you're a franchise guy or trying to get money. Yeah, that's been brewing for at least a year. Contentious. He's trying to get out of there.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Yeah, yeah. He's just trying to get out of there. They want a first-round pick? Well, yeah, at least a year. Contentious. He's trying to get out of there. Yeah, yeah. He's just trying to get out of there. They want a first-round pick? Well, yeah, at least. And he already said that after this year, they're going to have to break the bank for him. So if you're the Jags and he's caused some issues, not issues, but if he's not happy there
Starting point is 00:59:19 and he's asking to break the bank, it might make sense for both sides. Is he still one of the best corners in the game? He's good. Pretty damn good, yeah. Worth it. Somebody will sign him. For sure.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Patriots. Oh, God. They don't need it, right? No. They've only given up nine points last year. They've already got it. They have the best corner. Yeah, Gilmore's unbeatable.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Might even be less than that. It might be six points. That's something interesting in that fight, though, that I kind of learned from you was you always talk about teammates sticking up for the guys on the team I watched. And in that little scenario there with Marone and Jalen Ramsey, a lot of the teammates were kind of, it looked like supporting Ramsey,
Starting point is 00:59:55 like telling Marone to get out of his face and back up. Maybe they knew he was about to get knocked out if he didn't get out of his face. It looks like guy that'll, uh, fucking smack someone right in the mouth. Ty's been saying that
Starting point is 01:00:12 to every situation. He's been watching Mark Madden videos I think. Stooge! He's a stooge and a sellout. For those listening that don't know Mark Madden, he's a Pittsburgh radio show host.
Starting point is 01:00:29 He's literally just a fire stick. He's wild. He is an electric factory of a man. Calls it how it is. So Ty is all the way in on the propaganda. He is one of the most entertaining people to ever get on a microphone, though. I can argue that is a fact, but it's entertainment and ties all the way in and smack them right in the mouth is Mark Madden's go to. Yeah, I told no less. I was with Foxy and Zito
Starting point is 01:00:57 and we'd walk past someone in New York and be like, that guy really looked like he could use a nice smack in the mouth. A thousand people at least. By the way, probably accurate in New York City. What an interesting place that is. But I'm happy old Doug Marone didn't knock out Jalen Ramsey. Who knows where he ends up at. What teams need defense? Chiefs might need them.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Chiefs for sure. Oh, my God. That would really help them out. They're not good on defense. That's not good for anybody. Well, it's good for, I guess, anybody that doesn't want the Patriots just to run. Yeah, it's good for everyone, actually. Yeah, it is. All right, Doug.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Listen, why don't you go up in that pool with Jalen. You guys have a couple cocktails, margaritas,itas maybe up in that pool in Khan's Paradise. Go over to the yacht, hop in the yoga facility. Did a helicopter just land on our building? I think it was a chopper. Not that kind of chopper. Like a West Coast chopper. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:01:58 Paul Senior? Yeah. That guy was so angry. Oh, yeah. Good show, but he had to take years off his life. High blood pressure for sure. West Coast choppers. Orange County choppers.
Starting point is 01:02:12 There's a guy who relishes any opportunity he can to smack someone. I have no idea where I was going. Does Marone get a pass for this year? I have no idea where I was going. Does Marone get a pass for this year? I have no idea where I was going. What's that? Does Marone get a pass for this year because Foles is up? Yes, absolutely. Anytime your quarterback gets hurt, the head coach kind of gets a pass
Starting point is 01:02:34 because it's automatically, yeah, what am I supposed to do? Yeah, yeah. Listening to Rex Ryan talk about how the Saints are going to have to have an average quarterback now. Welcome to my world. I don't think he said average. He said not an all-pro quarterback. Welcome to the world of most coaches.
Starting point is 01:02:52 You just heard the pain radiate through Rex Ryan's voice. Because you know Rex, good coach, by the way, had good records with not great teams. And you know Rex at all times because the TV job, he does incredible on there. I enjoy the fuck out of him, by the way. That pre-production meeting, I laughed at Rex Ryan a lot this morning, like a lot, a lot. And then on the show, I had a great – and then we had him on the show.
Starting point is 01:03:12 He's great. I like Rex Ryan. I don't know how he is on everything else. Big fan. But he is – I find him very comical. But I think in the back of his mind, just like every football coach, every single football coach, super football guys, in the back of their mind they're always itching to get back on the sideline and i wonder every time one of these
Starting point is 01:03:29 happens rex around the end motherfucker drew breeze imagine if i had fucking drew i wouldn't be working he has been playing against belichick every fucking year like that has to be the mindset you know and um what a gift those great quarterbacks are that it's a coach that's why when you get one gotta hang on to them. Like Lamar Jackson. Exactly. That's what I'm talking about. And that's the end of the show.
Starting point is 01:03:53 We're supposed to talk Dante Stallworth. We missed the time. Yep. We got stuck in traffic in New York on the way out on our trip back here to Indianapolis. Came down that elevator from the 50th floor, got a little seasick, hopped in a car, got a car sick, hopped in a plane, got air sick. Three types of sickness.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And then we got back here, was excited to talk to him, but we blew through the time. That's probably on us, if I had to guess. Yeah, probably. That's the show. Can't thank you enough ty schmidt hit the music one two one two three four on the road again just can't wait to get on the road again The life I love is making music with my friends
Starting point is 01:04:48 And I can't wait to get on the road again On the road again Going places that I've never been Seeing things that I may never see again I can't wait to get on the road again On the road again Like a band of gypsies we go down the highway We're the best of friends
Starting point is 01:05:16 Insisting that the world keep turning our way And our way Is on the road again I just can't wait to get on the road again The life I love is making music with my friends And I can't wait to get on the road again guitar solo On the road again Like a band of gypsies We go down the highway
Starting point is 01:06:14 We're the best of friends Insisting that the world Keeps turning our way Turning our way It's on the road again Just can'll wait It's on the road again Just can't wait to get on the road again The life I love is making music with my friends And I can't wait to get on the road again
Starting point is 01:06:37 And I can't wait to get on the road again

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