The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1077 - Phenom Tuesday, Jeff Saturday, Patrick Mahomes, P.K. Subban

Episode Date: February 13, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk and the boys chat about how over 200 MILLION people watched the Super Bowl, how terrible it is for the rest of the NFL that Patrick Mahomes is only 28 years old, whether or not Brandon Aiyuk wants out of San Francisco, Tiger Woods' new apparel brand Sun Day Red, Mike Zimmer joining the Cowboys coaching staff as DC, and so much more. In the first hour, Jeff Saturday joined the progrum & defended Kyle Shanahan as one of the greatest coaches in the NFL, his decision to take the ball to start Overtime, the quality of refereeing through the playoffs, & more. In the second hour, 3x Super Bowl Champion Patrick Mahomes joined the show to talk about battling through the adversity on his road to his third Super Bowl, how calm he feels at the end of games, Harrison Butker's unbelievable season, whether he will keep the mohawk for next season, and more. In the third hour, PK Subban jumped on the show to talk about the latest in the NHL, including Ty Schmit & the Golden Knights breaking the Oilers win streak, the recent empty net slap shot dust up between Ottawa and Toronto, his health & wellness routine, and more. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Phenom Tuesday, February 13th, 2024. This sports program starts now. Sports! Big day. Huge. We transition from football being the word that is yelled as this show starts, to sports being the word that is yelled whenever this show starts. And it's not because we're not going to talk about football. No, no.

Actually, the complete opposite. We got Patrick Mahomes joining us in the second hour, 1.30 Eastern. Whatever the time is off of that in your world, we'll have Super Bowl champion, three-time, two-time MVP, Patrick Mahomes joining us, fresh off what seemed to be quite a runaway. Yeah. I saw him at Disneyland yesterday, did a couple interviews. Looked like he maybe had a good time with the boys in Vegas after winning the Super Bowl

as he should. And we'll get a chance to chit-chat with him, I think for the first time on this program. Now, he did drop his head into the screen, if you do recall whenever Travis was on, he did one of these. How you doing? Remember he did that about a week ago.

Now he'll be joining us. I cannot wait for that. Jeff Saturday will be joining us in about nine minutes or so because we're in combine draft. Who's going to win next year's season? What is Jeff hot on? What does Jeff hate? What does Jeff love? Is Jeff going to get back into coaching?

Ooh. There's no spots opened up. Bill Belichick couldn't even get a job. Yikes. Speaking of Bill Belichick, what does his future look like? We will talk about that. I am yes is the answer. For all the people out there, Axelrod and the boys,

know that I am trying my best to get Bill Belichick on this program at least once a week going forward. Hell yeah. Just at least once a week going forward in the football season. Could you imagine us peppering Bill Belichick on this program at least once a week going forward. Hell yeah. Okay, just at least once a week going forward in the football season. Could you imagine us peppering Bill Belichick every single week throughout an entire football season? That's if he wants to get into the media world and if he would want to be

on our particular program. There's a chance he says no way. Now, I did see him with a helmet on whenever we did college game day up in Massachusetts, up in Foxborough. He was fantastic. We got a chance to talk a little shit to each other. That was fun. Hopefully he has a little bit of respect for what we've been able to do out here in Indianapolis. But having a chance to pick that brain through an entire football season

would be a dream come true. Know that I am throwing my hat into the ring in a big way. And then P.K. Saban, which I want to say. Whoa. Okay. Yeah, we'll talk a little hockey. Now, the talk table is here.

Looks a little different today. A little bit. You know? A little bit different today. Well, it does have sweatpants and slippers on or slides on, so it kind of dressed the part. That man with the cowboy hat, one half of the hammer, done.

Cowboys turn dicks. Yeah. Worst outfit of the year as he joins the Toxic Table. Ladies and gentlemen, at Boston Corner, and Darius J. Butler. Boys. Good boy, D-Bud. Yeah, welcome.

I mean, Pat just said it, the worst outfit of the year, and this is what you bring to the table. You've been looking great for three straight weeks wearing all these cool. Three straight weeks. He's been looking great for 22 straight weeks. Six straight months. Yeah. We got flip-flops on.

Okay, yellow-green ones on. We got sweats that don't match. I mean, he said, I'm on the talk show table. I got to dress. I appreciate it. First time here. All in, baby. I appreciate that, D-Butch.

Ty Schmidt, he is all good. He took a trip. I think he didn't know which week we were taking off. I think that is the truth of the situation because he booked it so far in advance. Probably my fault for not giving him enough of a heads up. We want to let Ty know. We'll miss you, bud. We'll miss you, Ty Schmidt.

We will see him after the break. Now, I will say the NFL is up and to the right. Yeah. Whenever you think something can't be up and to the right anymore. And when the Internet has conspiracies cooking on why it is up and to the right. Ain't that right, Bubba Gumpino? All the way up to the right, boys. Yeah, you know why?

It's because everything is scripted and it's all fake and everybody's not going to watch. Remember, that was a trend whenever it was announced and found out that the Chiefs were going to represent the AFC and the Niners were going to represent the NFC. There's people on the internet who pout, okay, about everything. Of course. Always pouting.

Complainers. Wow. If you, oh, a lot of that. A lot of, oh. Oh. Boohoos. I don't think any of them mean it. I genuinely don't.

Because when you're out and about, do you run into any of these people at all? No. Whenever they say, we're going to protest watching the Super Bowl, and then the numbers come out, and it's like, actually, over 200 million people watched the Super Bowl. This is the biggest Super Bowl in the history of Super Bowls. This is the most watched TV program of all time. Now, in comparison, 120 million average is what CBS is reporting it had

throughout the duration of that entire game, peaking or having over 200 million people watching it as a whole. What a phenomenal ending to the NFL season. game peaking or having over 200 million people watching it as a whole. What a phenomenal ending to the NFL season. But there's people saying they weren't going to watch. I'm sure they didn't. You remember those people saying they're not going to watch this. In comparison, the World Cup had 1.5 billion.

1.5 billion people. 2022, 2018 was like 600 million. So, I mean, you know, there's a lot of room to grow. And that is certainly where Roger Gale is trying to do in a global expansion part. But they're saying that $650 million was made by CBS off of ad revenue. Remember, $7 million a pop for the 30-second ads and everything else that's happening inside of the game. So the NFL is up and to the right more than it's ever been. The game is growing in a big way. The Combine's in two weeks.

And I assume the networks are going to report that ratings are up. How is everything up and to the right seemingly, Boston Conner? I mean, personally, I think it's just because of how good the NFL is. Like, think about the whole entire conversation about the old guards, you know, a few years ago. Brady's going to be gone. You know, Ben's going to be gone. Phillip Rivers,

all those guys, they're going to be gone. And now this new era is just ridiculously good. I mean, they were talking about the active. And now this new era is just ridiculously good. I mean, they were talking about the active quarterbacks now who have Super Bowls. It's Russell Wilson, Matt Stafford, Mahomes, obviously, and Aaron Rodgers. So, like, this new era that is now in the NFL, all of them are so good at football.

Like, the Josh Allens, the Lamar Jacksons, in the last 20 years there's been a couple of those guys. I mean, Lamar, you can say Mike Vick, and aside from that, there's no one else that's even close to what Lamar does. Mahomes, obviously, there's no one that's done what he has done to the extent that he's done it. Obviously, Brady has the Super Bowls. But the league is just so good and so young.

And these guys come in right away, and they're filthy. I mean, we were talking about C.J. Stroud before the show and how great he is. I mean, talk about a face-of-the-league type guy. Like, everything he does is perfect. Sweet. Awesome. Everything he does is sweet. And Mahomes is the same way. And Mahomes is winning Super Bowls at the same time. So, like,

how could it not be up until that? Well, and Josh Allen. I mean, we haven't even really dove into him potentially having his greatness run that we all expect out of Josh Allen being the prototype. And you think about that entire AFC side. Antti Richardson is obviously going to go up and to the right with Indianapolis Colts. But as the

team, I mean, Roger Goodell's got to be sitting in his we assume marble chair. Right? We assume at this point. He's got that big leather one. That old stupid chair in his basement that hasn't been redone since 1985. No, but he puts that on top of a marble. Oh, okay. I think it was old

dusty carpet last time we saw his basement. Yeah, but they put the carpet over top of it. He could definitely afford marble. Yeah, it shipped in from Italy. Yeah, okay. Marble on top of that thing, on top of the ivory tower that he's sitting in. Like all these things as he's sitting on a throne like this with the other 31 billionaires that are around them.

They have to think we're the kings. Oh, yeah. They have to think that with how young the league is and how exciting the league is and how the game is growing not only here but internationally as well, they're having a game in Brazil next year to kick off the entire NFL season. And I know soccer, which we just referenced there, having 1.5 billion people watch its World Cup final,

was United States MLS superstar Lionel Messi put on an absolute show. But it's like they probably view football just in its early stages of growth in this entire thing. D-Bud, what a time to be covering the NFL. What a time. NFL is still king. You mentioned all this young talent, all these great quarterbacks, teams. I think the odds for the Super Bowl next year came out. Chiefs aren't there,

but who else is going to win one in this Patrick Mahomes era? Remember MJ, you know, six for six. Back-to-back three-peats, like Mahomes now has a chance to go, I think, the first time ever or in a Super Bowl era to go three-peat, so I know that's what they're locked in on now. Who can you project out to say, ah, you know what, he might get one?

Patrick Mahomes, also the first NFL NFLer to be in the record books. I learned this on First Take this morning. They put a graphic up, and it was pretty good. First NFL player, whenever you combine all the power four leagues, in his first seven seasons, even though he's only played six of them, to have three world championships and two MVPs, he's the first NFL guy to ever do that. There's been a couple NBA people that have done that.

There's been a couple MLB people that have done that. There's been a couple NBA people that have done that. There's been a couple MLB people that have done that. There's been a couple, I think, NHL. I think there's one NHL for the Canadians. And he's the first ever football guy that's ever been on there because of the parody, obviously. And you're supposed to take some time whenever you get into the NFL to have success. This dude's only 28 years old. And to your point, Darius, we were having a conversation earlier in the Think Tank. Okay?

And I'm pumped for Anthony Richardson. Should be. Should be. I am pumped for Anthony Richardson. I would be too. Legit, after watching him live, I am pumped for Anthony Richardson. Yes. Have no idea what he's going to be like, fourth quarter, meaningful game,

everything on the line. Is he going to be a guy or not? That is an actual question. I assume he's going to be, but that is still a question with how this whole season went. We didn't really see anything. Remember that two-point play that he had in college? It's like probably has the impact.

But we're talking, you know, 50 million people watching AFC championship game. Is he a guy or not? We started talking earlier. It's like if he's not and it takes him some time, it's like we're staring down a world where Patrick Mahomes is representing the AFC. You watch that game on Sunday.

He had to have a game-tying drive that was only stopped by the clock, and then he had to have a game-winning drive in the same game with 202 million people watching, and it's like, not a problem. We all completely understood it's going to take place. How many other killers are out there

in the NFL? Like this is what it was like whenever Tom Brady was with the Patriots. And obviously they only won six out of 20 years. It was like, yeah, but how many were they in? And how many other AFC people? It's like we're potentially staring down the next killer that we have in the NFL and that sucks

for everybody else. That sucks for everybody. I think Anthony Richardson's a killer. Sure. Absolute killer. And we'll talk to this. Well, we won't talk to Harrison Bucker. Just put on, obviously, a historic interview. He's going to be in the conversation of being a great of all time

whenever it's all said and done, especially with the kicks that he's had. He has Adam Vinatieri-like Super Bowl kick moments in his resume already, so he's phenomenal. But it's like, this sucks thinking about it for any other team's fan base. It was a sad conversation that we were having because you said, love Anthony Richardson, but is he going to beat Patrick Holmes? Probably not. And Gumpy said, whoa, we don't know.

You said probably not. I'm the only optimistic one. And then you asked Gumpy and Gumpy's like, yeah, we're never winning one. And I was... He's 28 years old. We're staring down another decade. 12 years probably. Look at when Brady played, too.

We are staring down Mahomes for at least another 10 years. That sucks, dude. We just bought season tickets for a decade. Andy Richards is going to be a guy. Andy Richards is going to be a guy. He's going to be a guy. For sure. But this sucks.

Yeah. Joining us now. Yeah, I Yeah. It's just not long. Joining us now. Yeah, I know. There's Joe Burrow. Burrow was trending yesterday. CJ Stroud is in the division. Burrow was trending yesterday because they said he is the only one that can do it.

Joining us now is a man who might have the answers to all of our worries here. Maybe he'll be able to settle us down. I hope. This guy's been a head coach in the NFL before. Exactly. This guy's in a ring of honor for the Indianapolis Colts. This guy's a former teammate of mine and probable future president of the United States of America. I hope. This guy's been a head coach in the NFL before. Exactly. This guy's in a ring of honor for the Indianapolis Colts. This guy's a former teammate of mine and probable future president of the United States of America. I hope. Ladies and

gentlemen, the skinny Jeff Saturday. Yeah! What's up, Jeff? How y'all doing? Do you hear us talking right now? And obviously, I caught the tail end of it. You were in the middle of the Tom Brady New England Patriots run, especially with the Colts and the Patriots thing. And obviously you guys

won one. Let's go. Hey, let's go. Let's go. You got one. But if you're a fan of another team in this current era right now, especially in the AFC, it's like the big bad wolf is here again. We thought it left whenever Tom Brady went down to the Buccaneers and it's like, well, just wait. There's a brand new one. Younger,

stronger, better than anybody in the history of football. Is that how we should feel? Or is this like there's a chance that this is the last Super Bowl we've seen the Chiefs win, Jeff? No, it's not going to be the last. That's the prize we're talking about. We're in trouble.

I'm with you. Here's the bottom line of it all. You hope that where Andy Reid is in his career, that he decides maybe to ride off in the sunset a little earlier than than and and then things kind of shake up a little bit right it's like who's next who's coming in and as good as my homes is can he keep that thing going on the same you know in the same direction without the reed that that that's the that's the hope of hopes but but to your point

everybody else right now when you're talking about Patrick Mahomes I like don't even compare contemporaries like you're you're you everything now was like where does he fit in all of sports not even in the NFL yeah it's historic right it's like this we don't talk about the NFL we're talking about you know baseball and and basketball and hockey and all the things. How does he compare? The dude is just, and what he's done and accomplished in six years is unheralded. It is historic.

It is a ton of fun to watch. But you're 100% right, man. Being a fan of the Colts, the organization, Anthony Richardson, Shane, like, the whole deal, bro. Let's go freaking win. It's a large bump in the road that we have to somehow navigate to get where we want to get. Yeah, it feels like it's a moat.

But, hey, you can build a bridge. You can build a bridge. You can build a bridge over that moat. And we don't know about Anthony Richardson. Obviously, we only got a chance to see him like four games, but we hope so. But every team in the AFC has to be thinking that. Let alone win a Super Bowl, can we get to a Super Bowl with what these teams are? I think there's more hope and optimism than ever before,

but then you watch Patrick Mahomes do what he did on Sunday, and it's like, should that optimism be? Should that? Should we have it? Nope. I don't think so either. I don't think so either. You lose Tyree Hill, best receiver in the NFL,

you go 2-0, win two Super Bowls. You lose Tyree Matthew when he was there. He was that team's MVP. He moves on. You bring in Justin Reed. You got Chris Jones. I think they should keep him. Probably one of the best interior defensive linemen of his generation.

Travis Kelsey, obviously, probably one or two, three more years. And he's only going to get younger. He's hanging out with Taylor off. Exactly. So who knows what they got going on there. But Andy Reid, Spaggs, Veach has done an incredible job. Speaking of Andy Reid, you mentioned Andy Reid maybe sailing off into the sunset. Here's what he had to say on the day after press conference

about everybody asking him about retirement. I honestly haven't even thought about it. But I get asked it. People keep asking me. And I keep saying, why did Belichick and Pete retire? You know, those guys, they ask those old guys the question. But I'm the old guy now. So I guess I'm going to be asked that.

Great answer. I love it. Belichick's still trying to coach, just couldn't get a job. Pete Carroll's still trying to coach, just couldn't get a job or whatever. And I think that's who Andy Reid is, is football guy. We got to hope that some hamburger or cheeseburger comes along. You know what I mean? That's too good.

Little nuggies that he ventures off into. You know what I mean? Just like Saban did, right? We had a conversation with Saban. He was down on a beach in Florida. And then, what, three, four days later, it was like, Saban's retiring. Yeah, I'm done. It's like, what, did he catch a good wave?

Did they get that new house, got a good view? Is there new food? What was it that drove him away? You know, and is that going to happen to Bill? We shall see. Hey, let's talk about the football game on Sunday. And I saw you have to answer a bunch of these questions. And I think it was set for us to potentially talk about in the first take questions.

So I assume that you've thought about it a little bit. They're like, is this Brock Purdy or Kyle Shanahan? And is Kyle Shanahan ever going to be able to get over the hump? I think we're all alarmed that the Niners didn't know the overtime rules. I think that was the biggest takeaway from that entire thing. Does that change the way you view Coach Shanahan because of the way that's gone? Because that's kind of how the narrative is starting to cook. What the hell, are you okay?

Something just went down. Yeah, we got a blizzard. We got snow falling off all kinds of things. Be safe over there, Georgia boy. Be safe over there. But like with that whole overtime situation, do you view that? Do you view Shanahan differently or what do you think about his whole legacy now

that we're talking about it? I don't. Listen, I put Shanahan, to me, I'm old enough to remember when Andy Reid was, you know, Shanahan, right? He made a bunch of quote blunders in big games. He couldn't win the big game in Philly, right? He was always getting his team close, but they could never close it out. Along comes Patrick Mahomes, and the combination of these two

now have put him in probably a top five of all time, if not higher, NFL coach. Shanahan is the same to me. I mean, Scott, listen, he knows ball. The guy can coach him. He coaches his tail off, right? He has gotten Jimmy Garoppolo to the Super Bowl. He has gotten Brock Purdy to the Super Bowl.

He's gotten Matt Ryan to the Super Bowl. The guy understands X's and O's and how to put people in places to win and get there. That doesn't go away from me because he makes an error of, hey, should we get the ball? The only thing I didn't like about the call, and I know now, you know, original history, we're all going to go, everybody would have done the same way. But I called guys that night who were analytical guys and they were like, listen, a lot of people said to do exactly what he said and do it his way. The issue I had was when you got down to the

nine-yard line and it's second, third, and fourth down, I would have done it. I'm going for the end zone. That would have been my only difference. It's running on third down instead of leading into where Chris Jones comes unblocked as opposed to kicking the field because if you don't get it, they still have to kick a field goal, which is the same thing.

They've got to drive the ball 60 yards because they're backed up. Given Patrick Mahomes two downs. So that's my Shanahan thing. You know, that's not the great, but he didn't fumble the ball in the red zone like McCaffrey. He didn't deal with the punt that goes off the guy's foot. He didn't, you know, he didn't kick the ball low on the extra point that probably finishes the game out.

I mean, this thing could have went a lot of different ways, and the Chiefs know that, and they know that. So is he perfect? Absolutely not. But is he still, you know, one of the greatest coaches we have in the NFL? Absolutely. And the Purdy relationship, this guy has taken more flack. It's just nonsense.

I mean, this kid has done – it's crazy. Like, this dude has done nothing but play good football. And the problem is, again, like everybody else, is we want to compare he and Patrick Mahomes, which there is no comparison. But he's played in an NFC Championship game twice now. One he gets hurt, one he wins. He played in the Super Bowl and walked off the field with the lead. I mean, I'm not sure what else we're going to ask a guy to do than that.

From my perspective, I'm in on Purdy. I think he's a top to me, he's a top seven-ish or five-ish quarterback, depending on what you're looking for. Listen, I'm joking. I understand what you're saying. Top quarter, whatever, top quarter

of the league. Top ten, top five, top seven. He's only in his second year, so I think that's why it's difficult to rank him because we legitimately have no idea what the hell is happening. And you talk about the Patrick Mahomes comparisons. It's like five years from now, let's see where Brock Purdy's at. In his seventh year, because he's already going back-to-back NFC Championship games, are they going to be able to keep that team together? We shall see.

Shanahan's going to want to get over the hump at some point. So if they make it in the next five years, we might be watching their dynasty be built. But boy, in Kansas City, and that's what you said, you talked to the analytical people that night about, you know, kicking off or taking the ball. It's like, I think analytically, it's tough to factor in the fact

that there's Patrick Mahomes on the other side. You know what I mean? You think that's getting to the third possession? That's why they're saying you take the ball, so if it gets to the third possession, you have an advantage. Yada, yada, yada. It's like, okay, the rule changed because that guy on the other side right over there did not allow it to get to another position. But let me ask you this.

Let me ask you this, D. If you're the defense, you've given up 19 points. You know what I mean? That's a pretty good day. It's not like they were just – I mean, the last drive you've given up 19 points. You know what I mean? Like, that's a pretty good day. Like, it's not like they were just, I mean, the last drive, he definitely moved it down. Like you said, they ran out of time. But, man, they played some pretty good ball.

It's almost like he kind of trusted, hey, we're going to hold up for the field goal. My defense has played well. Again, would I have done it? Probably not. But is it egregious? I don't think it is. Agreed. I agree completely.

I think there's a lot. You said you take the ball? Yeah, I mean, Kyle Shanahan, you're the head coach. You're an offensive guy. Give me the ball. My defense just gave up that drive. So in college and overtime, do you want to be on offense first or second? I'm going to defense first.

Okay, what if it's an offensive play? Just drove the ball the length of the field pretty much. Kicked the field goal. Defense, you know, let them get their time to adjust. Once again, I take the ball first. I'm an offensive guy. This is why I wear this hat. I'm the greatest offensive mind in football right now.

Let me get my guys the ball, drive down, get a score, and then I'm going to trust my defense to hold up. To win the game. To win the game. Yeah, I got you. It's a lot easier, I think, whenever you know you're going for it on fourth down. Like Patrick Mahomes went for it on fourth down a couple times during that overtime drive or at least once, I think. Yep. And it's like they knew they had to going for it on fourth down. Like Patrick Mahomes went for it on fourth down a couple times during that overtime drive or at least once, I think.

And it's like they knew they had to go for it there because they knew exactly what they had to do on the other side. It's almost like the college one. The third possession, I don't know. Players got to execute. You score a touchdown there, who cares? Yeah, you got to execute. There's not even a conversation about it all.

But it is a fascinating new little wrinkle, that strategy. And to kind of put a bow on this entire thing, I think Chris Jones or Drew Tranquil, or both of them, said that Andy Reid had full meetings about what we're going to do. If this goes to overtime, this is how we're going to handle it. We're going to go for two. It was a full-on thing, and then you hear

a guy from Harvard who's on the Niners be like, oh, I didn't know that was a rule. It's like, well, Andy Reid had full meetings, and that's like one thing to hold against Shanahan until he wins, which we all think he certainly will. Conman's got a question for you, Jeff. Yeah, Jeff, no matter what, when you're a fan of a football team and your team loses, people are going to bitch and moan about the refereeing,

let alone in the Super Bowl. And obviously there's been a conversation around the offensive line of the Chiefs holding Bosa and Chase Young, Fred Warner, and it was happening on both sides, but either way, the chiefs have now played three Superbowls and there have been zero holding calls on the chiefs. What is the likelihood of that happening as an offensive lineman? And do you think there is some sort of problem there there or you kind of have to let the boys play in the Super Bowl is how we all feel all right yeah I think you should definitely let them play I'm 100% with you that the old I thought it was ticky-tack on Trent Williams uh when Purdy

broke the pocket and and uh Trent had he had just gotten off sides but the left tackle for the 49ers you know had the end and the end kind of tried to like get away and made like this big spectacle and and he they got the call and then it didn't go the other so you know is it did it cost of the game no but I'm I think you let him play I was I'm all for that I did not like that call like against against Trent Williams at that moment because again I do think you let him play and And it wasn't really – the guy's not going to make the play. Purdy threw it back. It was the one he threw back to Kittle.

It cost me money and a bet, too, so that's the other reason it kind of pissed me off. Whoa, whoa, whoa, journalism. Journalism. You know what I mean? I mean, so a couple things kind of stung a little bit right there. But I think – listen, man, you got to let guys play. It can't be – every play is a hold of some sort, offense, defense, defensive backfield.

I mean, so let's see. I thought they refereed it actually pretty well. So Gene Steratore told us on Thursday, I think, or Friday, Friday before the Super Bowl, he basically said to Vinovich's crew, we're looking for whales, not minnows. He said, whales, not minnows. That's kind of been the story of the entire playoffs. I love it.

Like, let's keep doing that. Way to go, Rex. Yes. Keep going. You know what i mean agree because you know you start talking to gene steritor and he starts that guy loves officiating oh yeah he loves yes dad brother reffed he reffed everything he starts breaking it down about how you know patty some of these refs in their mind they think you know i gotta watch for a hold so they're going into a play thinking there's a hold coming at some point. Boom, they're more likely to throw that thing.

What we need to do is just let the play happen. And if it's egregious, then we call it. It's like, yes, Gene. And it felt like that is how the playoffs have been. If that's what we are going forward, I think they fixed the officiating. You know, because all anybody wants is them to be out of the game, not decided, and to be consistent. So it's like, if you're gonna let the boys play a little bit for four quarters,

as opposed to letting boys play for three quarters and then in the fourth quarter calling things, it's like, that's all anybody wants. That might be the answer, Jeff. That legitimately might be the answer. A hundred percent is the answer. Listen, we all played this game. We understand there's things that happen that are egregious, right? And you've got to call them and you tip

your cap. Hey, the guy got me. I was hoping I didn't get caught. I did. But to your point, the minnows, you've got to let them ride, especially in big games, man. Don't decide games with a yellow flag. I think that's what we're all getting away from. And I was very appreciative. Like I said, I thought they did a good job. And if everybody

knows that going into the season, DBs know that, wide receivers know that, tackles know that, defensive ends know that. If everybody knows that going into the season, like, hey, here's how it's going to be called, then it's a fair playing field for everybody. It's just like whenever one crew calls something ticky-tack and then the next crew calls nothing,

it's like now there's a whole problem. And this guy could be an all-pro one week, and then the worst guy in the league the next week. Let's get it figured out, especially with all the scripting talk. D-Bot's got a question for you, Jeff. I love it. Pass rushers, absolutely hate it. I know Mike was talking about it earlier this year as well. But we talk about a lot

about getting over it. I like when Mike just talks, bud. He's been talking a lot. When he talks, everybody hears it. Playing in the game on Friday. He's going to be in any celebrity all-star game. Puka Naku officially in the celebrity all-star game on Friday. Let's go, Oosh. Let's go.

Let's go, Oosh. But, Jeff, let me ask you about getting over the hump. Obviously, you have some experience with that. But now Kyle Shanahan 0-2 now against Patrick Mahomes and Super Bowl. Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills, seems like they always lose to him. I know when you guys were in Indy on your great run, it was that big, bad wolf up in New England. What was it for you guys that got you guys over the hump with 18?

Yeah, I think accountability for what we could control. So we lost to them in the AFC Championship game a couple years before up in New England, and it was the game where they're like getting all after our receivers. I don't think we had punted in the playoffs before we went up there. And they beat us up pretty good. And I remember coming back from that and having the conversation of, we have to be more physical. Like if we're going to be a team that wants to go compete in January

and in February, at some point it's going to be take the pressure off of those guys that play on the outside and let's going to be take the pressure off of those guys that play on the outside and let's handle our business on the inside. And so if you look at our Super Bowl runs, even the one that we went and lost, we were a much more physical team. And really, if you look at Kansas City, that's what they do. They play basketball September, October. But as the season progresses and they get to playoffs, Andy Reid is much more apt to call runs and that Pacheco kind of gets physical

because he understands it's going to have to pay dividends in playoff time. I think that's what we came to the realization of. You can't be out there winging around every week. Y'all are too good on the back, Andy, but you know it. Y'all are too smart. There's too many creative bl I mean, there's too many creative blitzes. There's too many things that you can't go over and film.

Yeah, you know, it's just tough, man. I mean, so, you know what you can do? You can go shove it down the throat and let's go make it happen, right? Like, that's what you can't check out of calls if you're on defense doing that way. I think that's what teams got to realize.

Hey, Edrin James. That's right. Yeah, you and Peyton get into it. Run the damn ball. It's too high. Spent on himself. Big Tark, Glenn, by the way, in the ring of honor. Yes, sir. Edrin James, Dommy Rhodes, Joseph Adai.

I mean, what a – they really – in those Super Bowls as well. Huge games. Yes. Huge games. Yeah, yes. Yeah, the game that we beat the Bears, I think we ran the ball for 191 yards against their defense, and their defense was legit.

And I know both Adai – I think Adai led the team in receiving. Oh, Edge wasn't on the team, was he? No, no, he had just left. It was Joe. Yeah, Adai and Domi Rhodes. And I think Domi had like 120 yards. We got after that team and pouring down rain. But again, how hard is it going to be if you've got to throw 60 throws in that weather

as opposed to being able to control some offense? I just think it's, again, Andy Reid kind of mapped it out and shows you how to do it with Mahomes. But that's how we got over the hump, D. But we just realized, hey, man, at some point. And then, honestly, as we played them more often, we got the better of them. Like, they got the better of us early in my career. But after we got that, we kind of got the better of that matchup.

So, I mean, Connor, who's a Patriots fan, is disgusted with what you just said. I was there for a big win. But later in the season, too, you talk about running the ball, controlling the game. It's like you're probably going to be playing against a good offense on the other side. You run the ball. You keep them off the field as well, which is fantastic.

All right. I know you've got to go do a radio hit, Jeff. We appreciate you adding to your incredibly busy day by joining us. You're the man, pal. Appreciate you, fellas. Y'all have a great one, man. Great seeing y'all. Hey, what weight are we at?

Where are we going? Oh, about 248. Trying to get down to about 238 in a month or so. So working my way down slow and steady. Are you using any science? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, I carnivored it up for the first 31 days.

Did dry January. Locked in pretty good. I'm going to take a little break right now, and then I'm going to go back on it. You're talking food science. I'm talking lab science. Yeah. That stuff's out there. Oh, no, no.

None of that yet. I have to get the download from you to know what I should be doing. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Think about it, Jeff. Ladies and gentlemen, Jeff Satterby. Yeah. Coach. The scientists are pretty phenomenal. Phenomenal.

They know what they're doing. If you're an adult. Some of them. Yeah. I mean, who knows what's happening on the back end of it all. Yeah, exactly. Probably take a year. I'm not 400 pounds right now.

That's good news. Boom. I feel a lot better right now. Yeah. Sign me up for that. Hell yeah. Sign me up for that every single year. Exactly.

Also, how about Jeff Saturday just signing up to be a head coach last year? That happened. That was awesome. That was awesome days for us. Do you remember that? That was so much fun. That was maybe the greatest breaking news out of nowhere of all time. I was so frustrated.

That was literally out of nowhere. I mean, remember when you were calling the poop Las Vegas bowl and they were playing the Vikings and the Vikings were up 33-0? Remember? That entire couple days, how fun that was. No, Colts were up 33-0. Excuse me. They lost. The group chat was awesome that day.

That was one of my favorite football days. That game you were calling was electric, though. It was very close. Yeah, Oregon State beat Florida by 50. It's like Oregon State's greatest team in the history of their school. I mean, obviously, I remember getting a chance to call a game next to Kirk Herbstreit. How could you not?

What a dream. Boom. I do remember going into that game thinking to myself, we're the kings of the castle. Yeah. Jeff Saturday's the smartest guy of all time. We are dog walking this Minnesota Vikings team. I think I'm talking shit to people that are there in the Minnesota Vikings. Hey, hey, what's the score? I think I did that a couple times

You're like 20 something 30 okay What's that? When is it? Halftime Let's stop worrying about that game We got an opportunity to work with Kirk Herbstreit here I'll watch the highlights in the second half if anything happens I assume third stringers coming in there And all of a sudden my phone's sitting on the thing

And it just starts And I look at it First commercial break and it's oh no And all of a sudden, my phone's sitting on the thing, you know, and just starts. Uh-oh. And I look at it, first commercial break, and it's, oh, no, oh, no. Connor going, oh, no, oh, no. And I think the oh, no train went in there. Yeah, sir. And then there was just a highlight of Dalvin Cook doing what he's doing and that place going crazy.

And it's like, and then all of a sudden a tweet comes in, largest comeback in the history of the NFL. I'm like, what the hell just happened to the Indianapolis Colts? And I don't want that to be the only thing Jeff Saturday's remembered for. No, he's not. As a head coach. He turned that program around. Started off 1-0.

As a head coach. Always have that first game. You're damn right. Beat the Raiders. He lifted them out of the casket and started the turnaround for, you know, kind of what was going on in that locker room. The building blocks for what Steichen came in and locker room. The building blocks for what Steichen came in and did this year. Jeff Saturday

laid that brick. The building itself, I don't know how it got to the point that it got to. Bingo. But I think we're in a place where it's going to get going good. And CJ Stroud's still in there. And also, not to be the bearer of bad news, but the only thing that is going to be

remembered from Jeff Saturday's tenure is, in fact, the 33-0 game. No. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But in 20 years from now, they're not talking about the Colts beating the Raiders in his first game. No, it'll be a trivia question. It'll be, yeah, it'll be who blew the – yeah, it will be.

Yeah, that will be what it is. Yeah, there will be a debate. Some other game will come along. It'll also be about when people were really upset that he got hired to be the coach, too. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. Okay. I got into a built car.

Yep. Publicly. Oh, that's right. Yeah, because I go to bed. It's my friend. Yeah. That's my former teammate. It's the Indianapolis Colts.

We love Bill. Who do you want him to hire? Okay. Who is... This team stinks. We didn't even get a first down in the first half. Players are betting against the old... We don't know.

Betting on the team. We don't know. Betting on the team. It has not come out. It's on the team. It has not come out. It's on the team. Did you hear that for real? I thought he sat down recently and he bet on Jonathan Taylor's over or something. Yeah, he put like a thousand bucks on Jonathan Taylor over in one of the games.

Good team, man. Okay. Yeah, it was like an E60 sit down. Just real quick, though. That news should have been released immediately upon it finding out that he was betting on Colts games. Because there was a thought, because there was no information coming out, that he maybe bet against the Colts. And that was the type of culture that we thought was maybe happening

inside the Indianapolis Colts building whenever everybody was upset about who and how it was going on. It's like, we got a lot bigger problems than he's coaching. And if players are betting against the team that they are on whenever they're behind closed doors. So he was betting for the team. That's what the report says. Let's go, dude. Okay, let's go Colts.

Holy hell. This is a good day. Yeah, it was a good story, too. Like, he said he was betting because he was trying to get, like, some extra money for some of his family. See, that part might have been bullshit. I don't know. That's what he said. That's what he said.

Yeah, it does sound like he's a professional football player. So, you know. Extra money, yeah. I hear you. Let's be a little. Is he on a team now? Someone picked him up. Eagles.

Eagles, right? And he's going to play great. And he's going to play absolutely phenomenal. Just like Calvin Ridley after his year off came back faster and stronger. And his perspective on the game. What did he miss? Who covered Ridley? Oh, yeah.

Funny enough. Michael Pittman Jr. probably, right, we assume, going to get franchise tagged by the Indianapolis Colts. For sure. Just like who else is getting franchise tagged, they're saying? Brandon Ayuk. Brandon Ayuk. They're talking about.

Hey, what's going on with Brandon Ayuk? So his brother posted on Instagram stories, and then he also, I believe, posted on Instagram stories. You know, kind of cryptic, but we're all just like, this is certainly them not happy about how the Super Bowl went. And Dreshawn Hudson is the exact reason why we leave in San Francisco. Thank you, 49ers, for drafting my brother. We are forever grateful. B.A. to Vegas.

Why does your all-pro 1,300-yard receiver have three catches in the Super Bowl? I mean, those are valid questions by most fans of the San Francisco 49ers. And then Ayuk also posted, don't forget what got you there. Yikes. With the eyeball emojis. I don't know who he's talking to there. I don't know if he's talking to Kyle Shanahan. I don't know if he's talking to Brock Purdy.

I don't know if he's talking to his brother. I don't know if he's talking to, you know, maybe something that we have no idea that's going on about, you know, maybe a business opportunity he's a part of. But everybody's automatically assuming he's saying it towards the Niners. And I would like to be on record as saying that Brandon Ayuk this year became a clear number one wide receiver for me. Brandon Ayuk made a lot of money for himself going into free agency as a wide receiver with the year that he had. Now, will he get franchise tag?

Probably still a shit ton of money. Nobody likes franchise tag. I hope everybody gets a long-term contract and gets the maximum value that they've earned and deserve. But it's like sometimes some games, like, things aren't going to go right. Spagnuolo's defense is something that has been talked about over the last three weeks as being maybe the greatest defense that has been assembled during a playoff run.

And now he is the one that is actually leading this particular year for this entire dynasty. So maybe there's a chance that Brandon Ayuk doesn't have a great – maybe he gets eliminated from a game. Maybe Brock Purdy misses Ayuk a few times. It's like I don't like the immediate burial of team whenever something does not go right, especially whenever you are about to make a bunch of money

and everybody views you being a fantastic wide receiver and a great guy. Now, I appreciate the fact that they feel like they got to call somebody out and remind them, hey, this is the guy. We all agree with that. But, man, that is just like, that sucks. Don't love it publicly. Me neither. He's a wide receiver.

He's a wide receiver. So, I'm buying stock in Brandon Ayuk. Every year he's taking a step. And, obviously, you want the ball. And Kansas City Chiefs played a ton of man-to-man coverage. So as a number one wide receiver, if I'm getting man coverage, I don't care who's across from me. McDuffie, Snead, give me an opportunity, throw me the ball.

So I understand his frustration. Don't love the social media part of it. But as a number one wide receiver, we saw it with Kelsey. You know, the first half. It was tackled in. It wasn't on IG. But, hey, I'm going to get right in your face right now. We saw it with Kelsey, you know, the first half. It was tackled in. It wasn't on IG, but hey, I'm going to get right in your face right now. Get me the damn ball. So maybe go that route.

Maybe give Shanahan a little. And also, I would love that Brandon Iuke in Indianapolis. Yeah, no doubt about it. Brandon, brother, you're going to love this place. You say you're going to Vegas? You guys need to maybe see Indianapolis. Look at this. Look at this scene.

Come on. That's how the sky looks every night. That's it. Actually, I just Look at this scene. Come on. That's how the sky looks every night. That's it. Actually, I just looked it up on Spotrack. He's on his fifth-year option next season. So that would actually be like a have to – that would be like a get out of here situation. They picked it up? Yeah, they picked it up before the season.

I think it's like 14-8 or 14-9. So he wants long-term deal. Yeah. Or he wants out. That's like half the top of the market. Yeah, well. Tyreek? I think – and they're thinking about $30 million, $40 million potentially for Justin Jefferson.

Who knows what he's going to end up making in this entire market. So that wide receiver market is only going to change, I think, as the years go on, as offense continues to grow what it is. But this feels like a new trend. Yeah. People just burying their teams. It's so uncomfortable. Yeah.

Like, you do what you got to do, I guess, business-wise, and whatever makes you happy. And if this ends up working for Brandon Ayuk, whether he gets a long-term deal or he gets a ball more or he gets happy, whatever the case, he gets to move on, whatever he wants to do, it's like, it's just an uncomfortable situation whenever you're trying to build a squad, try to win a damn Super Bowl, but you got to get your money, I guess. And, like, the family thing is one thing.

I feel like we see that no matter what. Obviously, you've seen it with Dak's brother. Yeah, like, that has been going on forever. I feel like we see that no matter what. Obviously, you've seen it with Dak's brother. Yeah, like, that has been going on forever. Him putting on his own story kind of stinks. But do you – Kind of stinks. How do you feel – it does. How do you – I mean, I love it because maybe he's coming to New England.

How do you feel – No, he's coming to Indianapolis. No, I doubt that. I doubt that. They say he's going to Vegas, but that's just inspiration. He's just going to Vegas to have fun. He's not going to football. No quarterback.

But how do you feel about the two? Because this is kind of the opposite, but also the same thing as Team 3. Do you rather the family members of the players with their names, at least, on it coming out and saying it, or would you rather the Team IUK? It was a great season.

You know what I do? I lump it all together. Because Team 3 feels like a family to Russell Wilson. When Team 3 is speaking, you feel like feels like a family to Russell Wilson. Amen. They are. When Team 3 is speaking, you feel like it's Russell Wilson's family speaking. Sure. Simpatico.

And whenever they come out the night before and say, Russell Wilson thinks this offensive line stinks, thinks Pete Carroll's a doofus, thinks the offensive coordinator won't let him cook, and then Russell Wilson has an appearance on Dan Patrick's show the next day and goes, whoa, whoa. I don't know. I don't know. That's Team 3 saying that.

Well, Team 3 is in all your Instagrams. I see them. You've got the cardio doctor. You've got the arm strength coach. What? You've got the right calf strength coach. Photographer coach. Photographer coach and photographer.

Breathing coach. Backwards treadmill coach. Backwards treadmill coach. Yeah, that's a big deal. Just put that one on a couple weeks ago. It looked good. High knees on a plane coach. Shoulder pads coach.

Yeah, in Monaco coach. Because he has to carry him so that team three we get is a big company fast a big yeah social media we didn't even dive into the social media the email newsletter team yep the the dorsal fin football probably action figure team russell wilson team phone team so i guess team three could certainly be a lot of people where russell wilson could say they didn't, they don't know. They misunderstood what the other half of Team 3 was saying. When it's a family member, you know exactly

that it's coming out. It's tough for the team, the player, to even be like, sorry, that wasn't. I don't know. I just feel like plausible deniability is at least a little bit allowed with Team 3. When it's coming directly from you or from your team, it's really, in the locker room, team, it's really in the locker room.

I think it's not easy to just say, that wasn't me. I never said that. I'm wrong. But with that being said, if he makes four catches in the first week, who cares? Nobody cares. There's been a lot of drama that has happened in the past publicly. And then once you kind of win a little bit, nothing matters anymore.

Or is that just a little red flag? That's an indicator of more problems that are coming to the San Francisco 49ers? Is he just echoing the sentiment of a lot of players on that team thinking to themselves, whoa, how come when the biggest moment comes we don't play? That's sports media in a nutshell right there. I would put more into it if it

wasn't the day after the Super Bowl. A little emotional, a lot of frustration, maybe a little hungover. Sad drinking is tough. There's a lot of emotions involved a little hungover. Sad drinking is tough. There's a lot of emotions involved in that. Sad and mad drinking is tough. Shouldn't do that. But I would put more into it if it was then.

You know, if he had the same thoughts, you know, a month from now, two months from now, then maybe it's an issue. But right now, it's all good. Well, right now, all eyes are on them, though. Yes. So I would almost rather a month from now, personally. As opposed to right now when everybody's looking to kill the San Francisco 49ers and Kyle Shanahan for giving up a 10-plus point lead again in the Super Bowl.

Again. Again, yeah. It happened again. It doesn't stop at 10 either. I mean, you got that bitch up to 25. Well, that was offense corner. Yeah, so excuse me. That was not.

Yeah, I agree. That was in a different city. And they lost to a different team. A different Super Bowl. What team did they lose to? It was New England Patriots, baby. Greatest game in the history of the NFL football. Well, it didn't have the most small viewers.

No, but it was still the greatest game. 202 million total. That's a lot. We knew it was coming. Yeah. Roger Goodell said 200 million. He wasn't putting total. That's a lot. We knew it was coming. Roger Goodell said $200 million. He wasn't putting that out there for no reason. There was no chance this graphic had any number

under $200 on it as the highest number on the graphic. What's that? Yeah, I mean, exactly. I'm wondering it too. They put out our numbers. They put out our numbers. I'm like, sure. I don't believe those ones either, though. That seems real. I don't believe those either.

None of it. And we've had this view, though, on numbers for a long time because, like, it's an archaic system. Stat that. How do they – hashtag stat that. We've had this take a long time, not just now. But, like, full careers in billions, maybe even trillions of dollars depend upon these numbers being released. And it's like, what are they?

Can we find out what those are? Well, it's a black box in some people's homes that they ratio to see what the actual number is. And then there's also an equation for how many people are projected to potentially be watching alongside each person. And it's like, here's the number. It's like, everybody watches Super Bowl.

That's what I'm saying. There's parties, D, but you've got to factor them. Oh, yeah, true, true. Because, yeah, for every one person, it's probably two, three people. No, that is factored into, I believe, the entire math equation. See, that's why, hey, just say 300 million. Why don't you just say everybody watches Super Bowl? You know what?

That's what they should say. Should numbers be more accurate as we go forward with streaming, though? Because I assume YouTube TV can know exactly how many TVs are on the Super Bowl or whatever, versus the Nielsen ratings where you have to write, like, yeah, I watched it or whatever. So the linear ratings,

and this is not just because we're a digital crew and our show is also on digital and we appreciate the hell out of the digital folks because this is where we started. But it's like the linear ratings, I'm sure that that equation works. Sure. Of course. Somehow.

I'm sure it does. They've been using it a long time. A lot of money has been made. A lot of companies have grown. A lot of lives have been changed because of that particular thing. But on the Internet, there is a scoreboard. You kind of see it. Now, people can buy views.

But normally, those get kind of sniffed out at this particular stage of the internet back in the day whenever the internet was just kind of coming along the digital streaming was kind of happening there's people certainly fudging the numbers how buying viewers uh making deals with companies that are just literally just have thousands of phones just doing things and running up numbers for people as a business but i think nowadays you can kind of see that with the action that is happening under the show and under the accounts. Who are the people that are liking accounts? It's like you get exposed almost as a worse company if you're doing that now, as opposed to what you were able to profit from it back in the day.

So it's like, I think as we continue to change. But then self-reporting numbers is crazy. Yep. Because, like, they're the only ones that know. So, like, Amazon reported, what, like $13 million or $14 million or something like that? Nielsen had, like, $11 million, and then Amazon reported, like, $13 million. It's like, how does Nielsen have any idea? Amazon would be the only people that would know.

Good thing. And how would Amazon factor in those numbers? Is it everybody that's on the app at the time in which the game is playing? Shopping, watching, buying, everything that's potentially taking place? We have no idea. What we know is everybody watches Super Bowl. Yeah, everyone. That's what we know.

A lot of people watch Super Bowl. 202 million is what they're saying. Crazy. So even if that whole thing that we question being accurate is real or not, it's at least the same one that's used against everything else. Yeah. And the NFL one is above everybody all the time. What is it, 50 million, 60 million people watch championship?

Yep. Yeah, championship weekend, yeah. That's so many people. And then, like, the majors and NBA finals and other finals is, like, 11. Pro Bowl games. Wow. Pro Bowl games pulled, like, five, six from their model, which, once again, what does it mean with the streaming world that we're in

and everything like that? We have no idea. But it's like the NFL just murders. Yeah. And they're going to continue to do that. They're king. When does it go down, though? That's right.

It has to go down at some point. When does it go down? Probably when nuclear war. Think about it. Jeez. That's not happening. It's Brazil. It's Brazil next year.

It's Spain's coming, too. Like, it's going to keep going, dude. It's worldwide. And I wonder if these reporters will report, like, all platform numbers or just one number once it starts going international. You know, because once they start combining international numbers, these ratings for every single game are just going to go bananas. Now, huge in Germany already, right?

We know that. Huge in England. I assume we saw pro football Ireland out at the media day. I think it's growing there. So Europe, we'll just assume that it'll have a continued growth. Going down to Brazil and everything like that, and then you saw the OCU Maniura commercial about NFL Africa happening. Yeah, Ghana, yep.

It's like it's going to – they're going to – Oh, yeah, for sure. Still kind of at the beginning phase. You mentioned the NBA and the baseball and the World Series. I feel like those are more global games right now. You fast forward 10, 20, 30 years from now, I'm with Gump. I don't

think these numbers go down anytime soon. When they do, though, there will be people real loud. Also, the betting numbers too. The betting numbers were $185 million wagered on the Super Bowl this year. Just in Vegas. That was up $5 million from last year. Yeah, that was in Nevada. That was just in Vegas.

There was like $2.5 or something that was projected to be bet on the entire U.S. $2.5 billion? Billion. A lot of money. And there's still states to be legalized. Yeah, there's still states that have to be legalized with that. Let alone international gambling. I have no idea what that's set up. Is that in England? They bet on everything. Oh, yeah. That's going to be legalized. Yeah, there's still states that have to be legalized with that. Let alone international gambling. I have no idea what that's set up. In England, they bet on everything.

That's going to be the Brazil game. South America will be frontier. Did it go down during the concussion entire thing? Oh, yeah. So that would be the one thing that would bring it down. Not just concussion thing. The national anthem, political war that took place, it went down during that.

So it can go down. Only outside factors. COVID? Did COVID take it place, it went down during that. So it can go down. Only outside factors. COVID? Did COVID take it? Did it go down during COVID? No, because nobody was doing anything. It had to have gone up. The attendance went down a little bit during COVID, but I think the...

No, no, I saw cardboard. Remember, they said there'll be 20,000 humans, 45,000 cardboard cutouts. Can't wait. Dude, we were watching Korean baseball, dude. With the sex dolls in the stands. Right behind home plate. Yep, all of them. What was Dude, we were watching Korean baseball, dude. With the sex dolls in the stands. Right behind home plate. Yep, all of them. What was that?

The dinosaurs were dogs, dude. The bears. Yeah, I mean. On real time. What was that? We were up at like 6 a.m. watching that damn baseball. And then obviously we had two days watching the AFL when they were the last sport to stop. Aussie rules football.

What a time. Yeah, COVID certainly knocked down attendance a little bit in the entire world. Faded through, though. We survived. Yep. Shout out to SeatGeeks. Somehow this company right here sells tickets to live events. Think about that code red in the office.

All right, what are we staring down? They said two weeks. That's it? Two weeks. Two weeks. Two weeks, everything's out. Oh, we could do it two weeks. That'll hurt. We'll just delay

everything. We can't cancel because if we cancel, we got to refund everybody. So if we refund everybody, guess what that is? That's money leaving our company to go back to places. So we'll just postpone, delay. Smart, smart. And obviously things start going. It's two years pretty much of no

live events. Congrats to Siki. Way to survive. Way to survive. Way to survive. Steelers, cut to punter. Oh, man. Steelers have been in the news a lot here in the last two days. Schefter obviously breaks the news yesterday that maybe Pittsburgh's interested in Justin Fields. They're talking about a veteran quarterback.

A lot of people said Tannehill may be going to Pittsburgh this past weekend. Then Schefter said yesterday, look for Fields to maybe find his way to Pittsburgh with Artie Smith becoming the offense coordinator there. Whenever if Artie Smith stayed in Atlanta, Justin Fields was going to be linked to Atlanta. So for some reason, there's people thinking that Justin Fields and Artie Smith are potentially a match made in heaven together for an offense. And I think a lot of Pittsburgh Steelers fans say, I'm not against that. No, I don't hate it.

Cut the punter yesterday as well. Make some moves around the roster. Presley Harvin obviously is going to find a home around the NFL. I think being in Pittsburgh's tough. I think that is a tough place to punt. I don't know if anybody else... Just everywhere you play is terrible.

Everywhere you play is terrible. Pittsburgh is terrible. And the fans will boo you. They turned on Presley pretty quickly, and he deserved it. I mean, he was ranked near the dead last in punters the last few years in pretty much everything. So he kind of deserved it. But, yes, it is a tough place to kick. It's a very tough place to punt.

Wouldn't want to do it. Mitch Berger back in the day, I believe, punted there. Yeah, our guy Josh Miller. Chris Cardocki. Yeah, there's Josh. Josh Miller. Chris Gardocki. Yeah, there's been punters throughout the years that have been able to stick around, but that was back in the day. No offense to those guys,

but people weren't just averaging like 50 yards a punt, and there isn't like bombers all over the place. Obviously, as techniques evolve, people get better at things, and in Pittsburgh, it's not a fun place. I did see, though, and after watching his film and how he punts, it's like Matt Ariza is a guy that would be able to potentially handle the AFC North stadiums.

You have to have a very strong leg, just like Presley Harvin did. I assume Presley Harvin will go to the lab. He'll get better. He'll end up somewhere else, just like most punters do, that end up getting cut from a team. And he'll be on to bigger and better things, hopefully, for him. And I'm a big fan of his. I mean, he's signed his helmet right over here.

So, obviously, it's a bummer anytime somebody loses a job. But, like, the punt god obviously been through a lot. And he's been cleared of charges, and he has not been back in the NFL. It's like maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers are the place to pick him up, and maybe we've got a little punter play. Yeah, he was a strong fan favorite on Twitter yesterday as far as who they should go after, him and Torrey Taylor, just because that's the only college kicker or punter that anyone knows.

So those names were being thrown out there a lot yesterday. It was great, though. They wasted no time, okay? They have to do the Super Bowl. It's time to go. It's the next season. They cut him. They let go of Mitch, Chooks, Okafor, who was a tackle that didn't plan out.

They created a bunch of cap space. So it's like, hey, we're doing, who was a tackle that didn't plan out. They created a bunch of cap space. So, like, it's like, hey, we're doing things. I heard Mason Rudolph, too, also. Mason, it's rumored that he wants a fresh start somewhere. Such a bisky fresh start, Mason Rudolph fresh start. These two quarterbacks going to Pittsburgh. You know what?

We need to take a breather and go somewhere else. Which makes sense for Mason because, you know, it has been a very up-and-down career for him there and with the Steelers fans. But, like, it's good because very up-and-down career for him there and with the Steelers fans. But, like, it's good because I love what Omar Khan's doing, GM of the Pittsburgh Steelers, because the last few years, and he is a Hall of Famer, and he was awesome in a lot of great years, but the last few years that Kevin Colbert was there,

didn't make a ton of great moves. And it's like Omar's coming in and kind of trying to change the vibes and kind of change what was going on there. And it's awesome. It's nice to see a fresh start because vibes and change what was going on there. It's awesome. It's nice to see a fresh start because that's what needed right now. Yeah, Pittsburgh Steelers are trying to turn over a new page. How about the New England Patriots? You guys going to make any moves? What the hell you got going on?

We're going to make plenty of moves. You got McAdoo trying to find you guys a quarterback here right before the combine? McAgenius is in the lab right now. He's got an old haircut, new haircut. It doesn't matter. There's no way he's still got that slick back. I hope he is.

He was good with the mushroom cut when he went slick back. He was no good. I want him bald. I want no hairs on his body. The only hairs I want activated in his body should be inside his brain and their neuro hairs, okay? And he needs to be inside the building watching Jane Daniels film, Caleb Williams film, Drake May film, and that's it.

And after that, I don't want to see or hear about Doofus until the draft, but Gerard May already said, we're going to spend money, probably going to bring in either Pittman, T. Higgins, Calvin Ridley, Ayuk because he doesn't want to be in the San Fran. Word on the street is he loves it. Well, I mean, they're going to get that figured out. I don't know. Not today.

Today, in this moment right now, they don't have it figured out. Okay? So the New England Patriots, he's on the table. All right, let's talk about some other sports. Big news yesterday. Tiger Woods has launched his own brand of golf apparel. Congrats to Eldrick Woods, obviously. Now, we feel like the name was there.

Tiger. Sitting there. Just right there. But instead, it's called sun day red wait not sunday like sunday no no no space no sun day red but if you say it in a sentence you'd be like hey you're gonna pick up that sunday rent it sounds like you're talking about a day of the week that is not the case no this is three words. The reason why it's three words is because some Harvard study of

marketing says, according to TaylorMade CEO David Abelish, the phrase Sunday Red was strategically broken into three words due to the rule of threes, which is a powerful principle in marketing communication that suggests information presented in groups of three is more memorable, engaging,

and persuasive. That makes sense. I mean, David, you think of like Facebook. That's one word. Yeah. It was the Facebook. And if they had any thought of the rule of three, it would have been the Facebook. Yeah, and then you think of like Amazon worth $2.9 trillion or $1.75 trillion or something like that. And you think of Apple worth like $2.99 trillion. And you think of Apple, where it's like 2.99 trillion.

And you think of like Netflix, and then you think of like Google. But no, no. You think about Jordan. No, no. So like Sun. Nye. Key. Shoes.

E. It makes sense, you know, why you wouldn't just name it Sunday Red. But nonetheless, we'll support Tiger Woods. Of course. He's an athlete running his own company, doing his own thing, and if it's going to make me a better golfer, and if it's going to make me look cool, give me Sunday

Red. I think it makes you a better golfer immediately, D-Bud. Absolutely. I hate that I have to wait until May to get it, but I will be getting at least one of everything. Of everything. First drop, Tiger's line, yeah, it'll grow.

I signed up for the email list to get that first drop notice. And if there's a bag of shit on there with Sunday Red on it, I'm going to get it because I'm a huge Tiger mark. But, yeah, Sunday Red would be cool. Or how about Tiger? Tiger would be cool too. It had to be some trademark. It had to be something behind it.

You can't trademark a day. That's not true, obviously. You can't a day but a phrase with a day. You can. It's been done before. Actually, Sunday Red, I believe, has already been trademarked, so they would have to do business negotiations with that person. But rule threes.

Rule threes. Good rule. I remember that. These marketing people. Marks. Got all the answers. I can't. I can't take it.

I just can't take it. So dumb. But you know what I love? Sunday Red. Hour two on the other side. Hour 2 on the other side. Beautiful people, and welcome back to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Phenom Tuesday, February 13th, 2024. Hour 2 of the program starts right now.

Sports! Awesome, and we are lucky to talk about them every single day for the next six months before the NFL season kicks back off. The toxic table is here, but it looks a little different. That's because it's Appos and Connor rocking an incredible Flamingo shirt, it does appear. Yeah, this has been the office favorite. Yes. By far.

Good vibes. Great vibes. That was the goal. I figured, you know what? It's Tuesday. It's the offseason. Might as well brighten it up, bring some colors. And it turns out everyone basically loves flamingos. Not a very polarizing animal.

That shirt reminds me of Miami Subs we used to have in Plumboro. Is that right? It used to be. So they had these seasoned fries. Oh. Oh. Unbelievable. They shut down.

I don't know how. I have no idea how they shut down. I think it was a racket. No, that was Smarty Arties. They were running cocaine out of the back. Actual. Cocaine Artie. People used to say, well, these wings are so's. They were running cocaine out of the back. Actual. Cocaine Artie. People used to say, well, these wings are so good.

It must have cracked them. Turns out, maybe. Turns out there was a chance, and that's where we grew up. Maybe why we are the way we are. Darius J. Butler's sitting next to me. Yes, sir. Cashville will be gone the rest of the week. We will miss him.

One half of the hammer. Cowboys turn. Diggs is here. And a man out of Canada who just about nine months ago was on the actual banned list from the United States of America. Now, American Dream Tale. A guy who's the greatest internet splunker and video splunker that has ever existed.

Former ship painter. Ladies and gentlemen, Bubba Campino. Great to be here, boys. Great to be here. Gumps, how's the internet? Are we live? Are we cooking? It's Tuesday after the Super Bowl.

Yeah, people aren't happy about the Patrick Mahomes box office tweet. What are you talking about? Well, you gave everybody else their flowers and then said Mahomes is the biggest box office. People aren't happy about it. What are they not happy about? Well, you mentioned Messi. You mentioned our tribal chief. Serena. You mentioned McGregor.

Right now, Mahomes is the biggest box office. He just won the Super Bowl. Who's mad at me? The people that are fans of all those people? Yeah. Oh, so I got the Messi marks on me? Hey, listen. Messi and I are on the same team.

He's playing for the United States in the next World Cup. It's been determined already. Florida man. Bingo. Miami man. Florida man. Messi. He's walking around public.

He's walking around grocery stores down there just tapping people up. No problem. He sang National Anthem, they said, the other night. He's playing for U.S. going forward. We got no problems. Now, I know 1.5 billion people watching him win a World Cup. And other people have been wondering if he could win a World Cup for Argentina.

But Patrick Mahomes, if you're going to see him on TV, you're going to walk away? I don't think so. I don't think so. Now, the tribal chief in the Rocks certainly. Boy, oh boy. 200 million views. Digital, real life. So. 72 hours.

That's box office. Conor McGregor, when's he going to fight? That's box office. Kaitlin Clark has people paying $1,000 for a women's college basketball game in February in multiple different cities. That's box office. It's hard to do. Hey, who would sell out what arena or theater anywhere? Especially if you're box office. It's hard to do. Hey, who would sell out

what arena or theater anywhere? Especially if you're going to... What's that? Sun Day Red. He's box office. That name sucks. That name. I love it. It's like hard for me not to mock it. Every time I see it, I'm like,

Sun Day Red. Because if you don't...'t Sunday Red, it's just one. So, does the three words work if the first two words are bundled? Because everybody's going to see it. I don't love the logo now that we're talking about it. Whoa. I love the logo. Hold on.

Hold on. The logo is fine. There was a little tidbit Gertie shared with us on the break. There are the exact amount of stripes as he has major championships. That's really cool. He wins another one. Do they add another one? Oh, yeah.

Bigger tail. Longer tail. That's really cool. I wouldn't worry about that. Tiger, Tiger. Shut your mouth. Joining us now is a man whose picture is Tiger's going to win another major. That tail's going to have to get long.

He might win this week. Well, yeah, all the good players left. No, no, no. They'll be at the. They're at the major. You're still right, Nick to get long. He might win this week. All the good players left. They're at the major. You're still right, Nick. They'll still be there. You don't think Sunday Red is going to have a Sunday

while wearing Sunday Red? You're out of your damn mind. If he's in a Sunday golf cart, yeah, I do think so, but unfortunately... He's all the way back. Charlie's been working out with him. I hope. I truly hope. Because there was nothing better than him winning that Masters in 2019.

I want it to happen. I just as a. He has to with Sunday Red. He has to win one with Sunday Red. Should. I hope. Don't know. Every time.

Every time. I hate that I have to. It'll grow you. I don't think so. I think it will. Joining us now is a man whose picture is very much in a new documentary about a murder. Yeah, it's circulating right now. Yeah.

Stu was on a thumbnail. Got a murderer head. A couple of them, allegedly. There he is. Right up top. That's him. Ladies and gentlemen, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. And obviously, a man who is idolized by a killer, A.J. Hawke.

That's my Hawker. A.J. This is a real thing. I got a tweet from somebody saying something about this Lover, Stalker, Killer thing. This is actually legit? So I'm going to watch this this weekend for sure. I have no idea what happened. Lover, Stalker, Killer.

It seems like a lot of bad stuff happened but allegedly from the tweets that i read and from the research that nick has done they found a thumbnail drive of the killer right yeah it was a micro sd card and it kind of cracked the whole case wide open because the evidence they needed was a picture of a dead body on that card it also happened to be littered with pictures of aj hawk and the green bay packers definitely not littered with pictures of A.J. Hawk and the Green Bay Packers. Definitely not littered. There's no way he was littered. Look, this is one scroll. They'd say there were scrolls and scrolls.

He's a big Packers fan. What can I say? It's just like some wallpaper background that he has there. Yeah, well, I think he was even a graphic designer. It's like, A.J., she. Oh, she loves it. I mean, I don't want to spoil the dog for everybody, but. You just did.

I'm so sexist just assuming some psycho serial killer that has A.J. Hawk and a thumb drive alongside a dead body is definitely a man. Well, most of them are. Most of them are. I mean, that's a safe assumption. If you're a white male from the Midwest, the chances of you becoming a serial killer, I think, are much higher than anywhere else. That's just from the documentary.

She was definitely white. Certainly. Certainly. Yep. definitely white. Certainly. Can't confirm. Put this thing back up. Is she from Wisconsin? I don't know. Is she from Wisconsin? What's the deal with all this? I need to watch.

I believe it's a Centerville high school sweetheart. What if I went to prom with her or something? Did you? What if you were next? And you turned and sent her down this spiraling wormhole? So what do we know? You were potentially next, bro. Stalker? Yes. Absolute stalker. Okay. I mean, AJ,

I'm thankful you're alive. Might be on a list somewhere. I'm pretty pumped you're alive. You know how they said like in... Oh my God. You know, back in the day, there was lists that were made. Our high school had a couple of them. Glad I called that guy. Bingo. A little bit of those types of things. And then you find out that you were potentially on a list. You're like, phew, jeez.

Did we? What happened? That's hardcore. What's happening? Can somebody just erase my name off there? Or how do we go about going forward here? In this particular case, you might have been the next victim of this stalker, killer, lover thing. I'm happy you made it, AJ.

I'm pumped. Now, not everybody's alive. They said there's a dead body in here somewhere. Not everyone made it. What do you notice, though? What do you notice? What's that? The rule of three.

Lover, stalker, killer. Took a little page out of Tiger. Son of a bitch. Why would you do that? First of all, we're all pumped for Tiger. We're all pumped for Tiger. Anytime an athlete continues to grow their business portfolio and take ownership and buy into something,

I'm a massive fan of that. I like it. I assume he's getting a huge percentage of this, and it's going to do well because we're all going to buy it. For sure. Because we would like to support him. Is that the dumbest name of all time? What do we – I mean, how –

And how do you not go, son, day, ray? Is that what weest name of all time? What do we, I mean, how, how, and how do you not go, Son, Day, Red, everything? Is that what we're supposed to do? Maybe this is the most intelligent name of all time because whenever we say it, we have to sound like assholes while we're saying it. I mean, I think it could easily morph into where people just call it Red, maybe. Or just Sunday, I don't know.

Is this Foxy's problem? People tell me four, duh, brand. Same old lines, brand new lines Is this Foxy's problem? People tell me for the brand. Same old lines. Brand new lines. Maybe Foxy's fault. Maybe you're supposed to say it with your golf group. Maybe you're only supposed to have one word. And for the brand, we did just have like kickers.

You know, like Tiger is just sitting. Yeah, his name. Right here. You know? Yeah. Shaq. There's not a lot of people that just one name. It's literally.

And just have like a silhouette of Tiger doing something. With an actual Tiger, maybe. Maybe he thought MJ already did that. Maybe he didn't want to take from it. Alright, let's talk about some stuff that happened in our world. Okay, past that.

We're in it, boys. We're here. Wait, what? I was waiting for this. This is the offseason. I've been waiting for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we're here. Wait, what? I was waiting for this. We'll just have – This is the offseason. I've been waiting for it. Yeah. Best time of the year. Yeah.

Just went through it all. Decided the only thing that is really worthy of getting chatted about right now is that Justin Fields got on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Adam Schefter said that yesterday pretty much. AJ, that's big news. Schefter said Tomlin is a big fan, correct? Yes, Tomlin's a big fan. Obviously, Artie Smith has been linked to Justin Fields in the past

whenever he was at Atlanta. I wonder if there's just a bunch of smoke behind the scenes. Has Artie Smith had a couple cocktails at places? I love Justin Fields. I absolutely love Justin Fields. Just like what happened with Harbaugh at the funeral, chit-chatting about Justin Herbert with Mike Greenberg. Has that been why they've been linked together?

I always thought the Artie Smith and Justin Fields link was because people saw that he could potentially fit in that offense and then also that he was from Atlanta. I thought it was just kind of a hometown thing. And Shefty said that yesterday about Mike Tomlin and Justin Fields. But then, like, this is not a Steelers move. This is not something they would normally do. And Rooney came out in his end of season press conference and said

it would be surprising if they did make headlines with a quarterback. Oh, so Russell Wilson, who's also potentially being linked to Pittsburgh, probably not. Yeah, most of these are probably not. This is the offseason. Everybody's getting linked to everyone. I mean, if Mason's

gone and Mitch is gone, you're going to have to you can't just have one quarterback on in the next year, and you're not going to bring in a bunch of slapdicks either. So, you know, it's going to be interesting. Yeah, I'm excited to see what the Pittsburgh Steelers do because Steelers fans not thrilled about where they are deep budged. Not at all. And obviously the biggest question mark there, at least for me,

is still the quarterback. Yeah, yeah, by far. I like Justin Fields. I think the Bears should keep him, but I think at this point it's a foregone conclusion they're going to trade him and draft most likely Taylor. It does feel like that's where we are at. Has anybody from the Bears alluded to that?

No, the whole report was about how polls, they were just gathering as much information right now before figuring out whether they're going to trade him. The locker room has been behind Fields the whole time. And then the combine, you know, that's when all the conversation. Oh, yeah. That's probably. Hey, we have some big news potentially on the combine.

Potentially. Potentially. Potentially. We don't know, but we think so. Found out yesterday that it is here in a couple weeks. Yeah, found out it is directly in the middle of when we decide to take the once-a-year break. Everything is happening in our city. Should have done a little more research.

Sue us. Don't actually. But we're going to be cooking in there, we believe. We believe we're going to be cooking in there, we believe. We believe we're going to be cooking in there because all of us are going to be back. And at that point, those breaks, I get like three days in and I get real antsy. Yeah, I have a feeling

this year's breaks are going to be a little different after the season we had. You think so? I think maybe, for me at least. I know it will be, but maybe you guys will be the same. Combine, though, is when all the drama and all the bullshit comes out aj now you want whenever business happens sorry to catch up with you we know that's when everything happens with the agents with the scouts with the gm that's when they go talk that's when they have these meetings and when like the all of the work gets

done i feel like and those top five picks right there have a lot of power whenever they're walking around indianapolis because there's a lot of franchises that are willing to do some absurd things to potentially move up the Carolina Panthers did it just last year a lot of people forget the Chicago Bears had number one overall pick last year they earned it they were the worst team in all of football they said you know what we suck let's get the number one overall pick Carolina Panthers said we got you traded a bunch of way to get up there now the Carolina Panthers said, we got you. Traded a bunch of way to get up there. Now the Carolina Panthers earned their way into the number one pick. And now the Chicago Bears have it back. But people do some absurd things around draft time to make their team better.

There could be a lot of action coming out of the call. Absurd. And everyone's so far got a high rating on those top three quarterbacks, which makes it even more interesting because people like to move up. And then Daniel Jeremiah tweeted that expect a lot of teams to try to move up because teams are not happy with next year's quarterback draft class so that they want to

go get their quarterback this year. You know, what's real? DJ wouldn't lie to us. No. I believe Moves Sticks is the guy. And he said this two years ago during the bigger draft with all the quarterbacks and it was Kenny Picketts was the only first round pick. That's why why guys trade traded up in the year before they said

this year deep o-line could you FaceTime Jeff Saturday again so they say this offensive line group is the the deepest it's been but I heard just a few years ago that offensive line might be a position that becomes extinct because of the way college football has become I wonder why it has kind of flipped a little bit AJ yeah I Yeah, I mean, I think we're seeing, like, a little bit of the evolution of football. We know the whole spread them out, take, you know, half-field reads in college and doing all that stuff. So, like, sometimes those linemen would have those big, giant splits

trying to pass block with the RPO situation. Now, I think, like, the road graders were getting kind of phased out, and I think now they're kind of coming back into style. There was guys that weren't even in three-point stances. They always talk about quarterbacks not being able to go under center or whatever, not being able to take a snap or break a huddle. It's like there's some offensive linemen that have never been in a three-point stance in high school or in college,

and you talk to old school offensive linemen, it's like, three points, what are we even? That is offensive line football. Day one, yeah. Yeah, that is what offensive line football is. It's like now it's starting to come back a little bit physical. I think that's a good part, a good take on that. You heard what Jeff said when I asked him about getting over the hump.

You know, you got to be physical. And we saw teams in the playoffs, most of them down to the divisional and the championship round. Those were physical teams that could run the ball. And remember this offseason when the free agents started getting paid, it was a bunch of linemen that got those big bags first. The guy in Atlanta. Denver.

Yeah, Denver. So, I think it's coming back around for sure. All right. The guy in Atlanta. Denver. Yeah, Denver. So I think it's coming back around for sure. All right, let's go, big guys. Here we go. Love you, big guys. Let's go, big guys. You need to get bigger, stronger, faster, you know, because you're about to start pounding the rock a little bit more.

All the teams that are around in the end are going big. And we'll see what that means for the defensive side too. You know, some of those slower linebackers, and by slower I mean like 4'5", 4'6". Like those guys might actually have a little bit more opportunity now because as opposed to having to run sideline to sideline every single player, now you're going to have to be able to stay a little stot. If you look at Roquan Smith, Patrick Queen, you look at Fred Warner and –

Dre Greenlaw. Dre Greenlaw, like thumpers, big. Yeah, dogs. Now obviously they can run and move, but it's like you've got to be able to fill a gap, fill a hole too with this linebacker era. Yeah, and that football is so entertaining. So if that is where it's going back to, I sure hope so. With the combine, I was just thinking about last year,

Derek Carr, free agent tour here. Do you think Kirk Cousins and Russell and possibly, probably not Fields because he's contractual, at least those two, do you think Tannehill may be flying in here, do a little, hey, come pitch your team to me? We would those two. Do you think Tannehill may be flying here? Do a little, hey, come pitch your team to me? We would like to let Russell Wilson, Tannehill, anybody else that's potentially doing this. You can utilize an

office in the Thunderdome if you'd like to set up meeting rates with GMs. Got that front room. Kevin Durant did this in the Hamptons. Derek Carr did it in a restaurant. The Thunderdome is yours. If you want to play a little pig or horse with them out here. Get to know the coach.

Yeah, you want to play a little cornhole. You guys want to run some gassers. Whatever you want to do. We've got the sim ups there. You want to golf, compete against each other. You want to kind of learn about each other. The floor is yours here at the Thunderdam because we won't be here. And that was a bad decision.

That was a bad decision. Speaking of decisions that were made, the Dallas Cowboys have officially hired Mike Zimmer as their defensive coordinator. Yesterday, Schefter came on and was like, I would like to be completely transparent about a situation that occurred on NFL Countdown on Super Bowl Sunday. Mike Zimmer has not signed a deal to become the Dallas Cowboys defensive coordinator. What Rex Ryan said was accurate. He actually got a text message 15 minutes before I made the news that Zimmer was going to be the D.C., and he said I don't think that's the case because they weren't able to maybe get

a deal done. Well, they're able to get a deal done now. Congrats to Mike Zimmer back in the NFL, back with the Cowboys where he was from 2000 to 2005, I think. 2000 to 2005 to 2006, maybe one of those years. He's back down there. He's an experienced defensive guy. Jerry Jones was

going to go with an older coach, it feels like is good news you think for the cowboys aj hawk yeah this is like one of the names that popped up uh right after dan quinn took the took the commander's job i think you know zimmer's been out of the league for what two three two three years now at this point i guess two koc either way yeah so yeah you know like he's he's one of those guys where your team your defense takes on his personality. We hear about that a lot. That's what you get with, I think, a Zimmer defense. Absolutely.

They're going to be tough, hard-nosed, and run to the ball. Is his eye good? I don't know about that, but he was an analyst consultant the last two years with Prime at Colorado and Jackson State. He was Cowboys 94-06. D.C. was 2000-2006. Okay, so he came up in the Dallas Cowboys organization.

Yeah, he was a defensive assistant and then a backs coach and then the coordinator from 2000-2006. Oh, so Jerry knows Mike Zimmerman. Very well. Okay, so he was getting that gig if he wanted that gig, seemingly. That was a long time. The deal, they said. It was some deal who knows you were okay you think

year like it was number one an extra year or something so mike mccarthy only has one year left on his deal bingo so i would assume that jerry jones was like well i'm not giving you a three-year deal if the head coach only has a one-year deal like that would be a balance because remember this is the situation that brewed with cliff kingsbury in las vegas allegedly we have no idea what's real and no, it's not real. We can only tell you what's being reported. Cliff Kingsbury wanted a three-year deal, which is the standard, I guess, for coordinators or assistant coaches.

The Raiders only wanted to give a two-year deal, which is allegedly what teams are hoping for in the future. Was it a similar debate with Mike Zimmerman and the Dallas Cowboys? We do not know. I was talking to somebody on Radio Row, and they said, first and foremost, Jerry is a businessman. Do not get that wrong. And with Mike only having one year left, and if they do fire Mike,

he's not going to want to pay Zim for two extra years, just like basically you just said, after he's not going to be there because who knows if the incoming coach would keep him on. Who would be up next year for the head coaching jobs? Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll, Mike Grable. So Mike McCarthy has the ghost of Bill Belichick, potentially. Just staring all season long.

Or when there's games. Week three, they start 0-1. He's not wrong. Cowboys start 0-1 and lose to a bad team. Mike's going to get it right away. Now, what if they rattle off He's not wrong, unfortunately. Legitimately. Cowboys start 0-1 and lose to a bad team. Tough spot. Mike's going to get it right away.

Now, what if they rattle off 10-0? See, that might be worse. They lose first half. Doesn't matter. That might be worse. Legit, they lost that game to the Cardinals at the start of the year this year, and people were calling for them. Yeah, who was quarterback for that team? That was Josh Obstel.

Oh, yeah. That was a good story this year. Great story. Had a good run. The Pasternak was good. Comes and goes. Comes and goes That was a good story this year. Great story. Had a good run. The Pasternak was a good story. Comes and goes. Comes and goes so fast, doesn't it? Tommy Cutlets, that was a good story.

Tommy Cutlets. He was an NFL owner. Tyson Baggett. He was in a Pizza Hut commercial. Yeah, he was. That guy was in a Super Bowl commercial. I don't know if that was Stilato or somebody else. It's not.

Whoever got Tommy Cutlets into a Super Bowl commercial, that's crazy. He just did this. Hey. The backup quarterback. It was the year of the back Super Bowl commercial, that's crazy. He just did this. The backup quarterback, it was the year of the back. I mean, Jake Browning. Browning. Well, yeah, I mean, 60 of them started. So a few of them were going to have a couple good games. The NFL is not looking for next year to be this year of the backup.

That is not what they're looking for. What rules are going to change this offseason? Well, hip drop. You obviously can't hip drop. Well, they said the gator roll is more so the issue with the hip drop tackle. How are you going to stop that? I thought that's been gone. Yeah, the ground's not allowed to snatch Achilles anymore.

They were able to stop. They're trying to take the head out of it, so you have to. That's what they teach is like the crazy gator roll situation, head behind, which I still don't know how you make a tackle with your head behind the ball. Well, they want people, obviously, I don't know how you have the leverage to be able to do so unless you're much bigger than the person you were trying to tackle. But they are trying to make it a shoulder and arm tackle league.

And the hip drop tackle is a arm tackle, pretty much, where you're riding the person. Now, granted, we are just learning of the hip drop tackle. Everybody, even people that played football. It's never had a name until now. It just got a name this last year. But that is a – yeah, shout out to Warren. He also got the Las Vegas Gold Knights

big win over Edmonton Warriors, I assume. But that's like an arm tackle. So if you say, can't do an arm tackle from behind while putting your body weight down, how do you describe that? And then, like, obviously they were able to get rid of the horse collar, which got called the other day in the Super Bowl, which is

they were able to get rid of that because I think that's a clear distinction of like, okay, it's in the nameplate, in the jersey thing, that's it. How do they change the other tackle rules? I have no idea. They'll figure out a way, though. They'll figure out a way. What do they say? What's the penalty?

This was a very dangerous tackle. We do not accept this. You have to have a name for it. I don't see how they could do this. They're going to call it a hip drop. I think they'll call it a hip drop. Even maybe they may take out the low hit with TJ Hawkinson and who else? TJ Higby.

You can't do that. Yeah, Higby got taken out, so maybe they changed the target zone. They changed it before. Okay, so they'll go middle of thigh board to nipple. Yeah, to nips. But you can't hit there because your head always comes up. Nips to hips. It'll be nips to hips, probably.

What if guys got a third nip, though, and they sit a little bit higher? Exactly. You can hit him anywhere. No, well, I can hit him a little higher. Huge target on his back. So does everybody have to have spots of where their nips are then? I think so. Oh, yeah, you have to change the color of jerseys to kind of like a hot and cold.

Because some guys have saggier nips. So is their strike zone much smaller, just like John Cena playing for the Savannah Bananas? Yeah. Where he was way down there? Ducked down. Is that not a weapon to have saggy nipples potentially? Maybe it's a harder suit.

Do you cut your nipples off? Like, if I would cut my nips off, you can't tackle me. Boom. Sure, I can't. I think there's no roof then. Yeah, you can't. I think there's no roof then. Yeah, you can't. I think then you're – Then the ceiling's a roof.

I think you want to lower your nips. I don't think you want to get rid of your nips. Oh, so take them off and put them on my belly button. Yeah. Funny thing about my nips is they're actually located on my belly button. Yeah, so you can't really hit me. I think Target should sponsor the NFL Target, the store. Oh, my God.

And then just put a big massive target on where you're allowed to hit people. And then the ref will say, personal foul, defense, Mr. Tarjay Bullseye. And then we move forward. That's a huge marketing opportunity. Target, one word though. We need some more of those Southern refs back. Whenever that real draw will come out, personal foul, roughing the passer, defense, first down, whatever.

Those refs talking to the camera, they're a little bit more possessed. Bring the juice a little bit. Do you think they train them? I'm sure they do practice that. Hey, okay, now you're going to stand up in front of the whole room, fake like you're turning your mic on, and make a call.

I would hope they practice that. And what happened to the old school, you know, little showman when they tap on a thing? Yeah, that's nice. Just let them know, hey, I got control here if we need it. And you're representing the sport. You're representing the league in a solo shot to 60 million. Not a lot of people get ISO shots to 60 million people.

Not a lot of people get ISO shots to 202 million people. They got to be good speakers. We need good speakers as the white caps. Now, obviously, you got to be good refs as well. But let's have a little Gene Steratore possessed. Let's have a little Ed Hockey. I hope that's what they were. A lot of Italians around the league.

You start looking around. Maybe we need all Italian head refs so we get the full. You heard it. Steratore, Hockey Leaf. That's it. Can't have that guy losing his voice, like, in the playoffs. What happened? What happened?

What are you saying? Squeaky voice the whole time. The whole game. What happened? You can't have microphone malfunction either where, you know, you're caught hot mic'd, you know, not good, but at least you got to own it if it happens. Sorry about it.

You know, drop one of those in there. Maybe that'll be something that'll change this offseason is we need more pizzazz from the refs. Well, and pizzazz, that's easy. I mean, if we're talking about voices here, you just set up an AI so that whatever the referee – Hold on. Just hold on.

Let me get there. Just hold on. Let me get there. I'm not saying use an AI to be a referee. I'm saying you use an AI technology so that when the referee talks, it comes out through the loudspeakers as an Italian man or a man from the south or however you want to customize the sound of your own voice. Or French.

French, exactly. Let's call that dude up, the Yenzer from my school. First time. First time guy. Guy got a Permanes deal out of that. Did he really? There he is right here. Guy got a Permanes.

That's awesome. We need him. There he is. First down. Yeah, let him make every call. Every one. What are we doing? First down.

How has that not already happened? That guy commanded that field. And that's what you need out of a white cap. I mean, legitimately. AJ, we are four minutes away from Patrick Mahomes joining us. I'm pretty pumped up about it. Pretty pumped up. Is he back in KC? I mean, it's been a whirlwind for that guy.

Yeah, we have no idea. I'm pretty pumped to see what he looks like, you know, because I saw a lot of the clips from SportsCenter. Sounds like, looks like, I mean, if I was him, I would not be able to survive right now. I just won my third Super Bowl. That parade was electric that he was at. I saw the clip I saw from Disneyland or World of Super Bowl I. Yeah, I mean, he's...

Here we go. He's on a box office. This guy's been making a mini in a parade every other year. And this is what the next 15 years look like, AJ. We started this show pretty much talking about how big of a bummer it is that we are currently in the Patrick Mahomes era. Now, I'm going to let him know that, that I'm not exactly thrilled, that he's only 28 years old.

And maybe with modern science and technology Patrick Mahomes era. Now, I'm going to let him know that, that I'm not exactly thrilled, that he's only 28 years old. And maybe with modern science and technology and how he takes care of himself with his body guru, this guy could play for another 20 years. Could. Okay, maybe he plays until he's 48 years old. There's been a 50-year-old football player before. Patrick Mahomes, maybe he's a guy that in this modern era, all he cares about is ball and winning.

He plays for another 20 years. We've got to live with this guy. Do you know that, AJ? Has that really crossed your mind? It crossed our mind earlier. We were talking about our teams. I'm like, you know what? I hope A.R. is the guy.

And I'm like, is A.R. going to be able to beat Patrick Mahomes? And it's like, I hope. I don't know. And then you start talking about other teams. Miami Dolphins go two. Two is going to be our quarterback for the next 10 years. They're going to pay him a lot of money. Is two going to be able to beat that guy?

That dude had a game-tying drive and a game-winning drive, both in the Super Bowl, both when he needed it. It's like that's what he does, and that's what we're staring down for the next decade and a half, AJ. Yeah, but I think we're going to see, like we're at the point where, especially teams in the AFC, no question, but I think throughout the league, you're going to have to find a way. We need to build a roster that has the ability to beat the Chiefs

and Patrick Mahomes because he's not going anywhere. Like said he's 28 already has three rings and he's not slowing down anytime soon ultimate team sport football obviously need a lot of people to do their jobs for everybody else to be able to succeed we agree but there's only been a couple people in the history of the game where they've said uh that dude's winning today like oh tom bray's not gonna lose today and it's like he plays one position out of 22 on the field. And there's so much other things that have to go right. And it's like there's just like a mana almost about some of these. And by some of them, I mean what?

Three in the history? Yeah, exactly. You throw Montana in there, I guess, because he had the same. I think it's like that dude's going to win. That guy's going to win whenever it matters. And we've got to deal with it for two more decades. That's where we're staring down right now. The scariest part is

Brady and the New England Patriots had 10 years without one. They went 2004-2014 without one. So right now, if we're just thinking about where... Will this dude ever go 10 years? My point exactly. If there was a bet right now, will the Chiefs win a Super Bowl in the next 10 years? It'd probably be minus 500.

There's precedent. There's precedent. And he's probably going to have better weapons next year, too. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the man who just dropped gloom and doom town on every city in the NFL. This morning, in our world, I assume he is living the high life because what he has done is unduplicable. Incomparable. a true phenom, the only man in the NFL's history in his first seven seasons, only played six, to have three world championships and two MVPs, an absolute stud, ladies and gentlemen, quarterback for the Kansas City

Chiefs, back-to-back Super Bowl champ right now, Patrick Holmes. What's up, what's up? How we doing? How are you doing, dude? We saw you in SportsCenter yesterday. Obviously, the internet had their jokes about the good of time that you had out there. How has life been the last 48 hours? Have you been enjoying this thing? Oh, 100% been enjoying it. I'll tell you what, though. It's a little bit earlier mornings when you have kids after winning the Super Bowl. So those long nights, they come fast when that morning comes.

So, no, definitely enjoying it. But we're champs again, man. Hell yeah, you are. And they released the footage of you after the last play, whenever you throw the touchdown to McCole Hardman, you're mic'd up, and you're screaming, we're world champs, we're world champs. And then you make that run, and then you roll on the ground. Is it like that moment right there, in in that feeling is what you do everything for is that how you would describe your drive and your passion yeah 100 percent um i think uh the biggest thing is you don't even know

how to even explain how you're feeling that's why i was just running i didn't know where i was running to um i was just trying to uh the moment with my guys and the battle through the adversity we battled through this year. It was special to get that win on that stage and to do it with those guys. Pat, on that third and one in overtime where you, I think you ran for like 19 yards, you got inside the 15. At any point in that run, did you think, hey, I'm going to score here. This is going to be a walk-off to end the Super Bowl because as a fan watching, I thought for a split second, this guy is going to run this thing in. That actually happens a lot during the game.

There's always those times where I run. I'm like, I'm going to score. And usually right when I think it, I get tackled, like every single time. And that was the same moment. I kind of split through, but I have no top-end speed. So once I got through the first line of defense, man, I was just kind of split through, but I have no top end speed. So once I got through the first line of defense, man, I was just kind of stuck. So no, but if I would have had a walk off, man,

I don't even know what I would have done, but I was glad that we got my guy McColl in on it. He deserved it for sure. I love the fact that you always talk shit about your speed. You know, he's got a little bit of speed. I got a little bit of speed, but it appears as if every time you need it, you have it. And your arm is obviously absurd.

It feels like the way people talk about you is a once-in-a-lifetime type athlete. You know, we were just chatting about it before you got on here, where there's only been a few guys in the history of the NFL because there's 22 people on the field, and obviously so much is dependent upon what everybody else is doing for every player to have success, where people look at you in, like in the first quarter and they go, 15's all losing today.

Patrick Mahomes is not going to lose. Third quarter, I think everybody on the group text was like, okay, Patrick Mahomes is going to win this game. Why do you think people view you that way? And is there a zone that you get into that we all see happening? Do you acknowledge that and feel that whenever you get going in your competitiveness? I don't know if you call it a zone but at the end of the games i usually i feel i feel very calm man i'm just i'm used to being there at this point and coach reed prepares us to be in those moments

and i have a lot of guys i can rely on when you have eight seven running across the field and get can get him the football and he gets 30 or throw a short pass and we're able to get extra yards um it just it's just all about doing the process of it not making it too big of a moment um i know all i know is i'm a competitor and i want to win and it's not like i try to do anything special i just go out there and try to win and we've won more than we lost and we've been on a heck of a run you talk about the drama this year obviously continued into the super bowl travis kel attacked Andy Reid. Whoa. He crow-hopped, punched him right in the face. Just right in the face, right on the sideline, middle of the game.

We obviously saw earlier in the year where we thought that ref was maybe going to get a piece of Patrick Mahomes. Travis Kelsey had the moment where he threw his helmet. It felt like this year everybody was doubting the Chiefs. It felt like maybe even inside you guys were wondering or maybe having a little frustration on why the Chiefs aren't playing Chiefs. It felt like maybe even inside you guys were wondering or maybe having a little frustration on why the Chiefs aren't playing Chiefs football. Was there a moment where you guys realized

the Chiefs is still the Chiefs? Was there ever a moment of doubt or question about your team and ending up as a Super Bowl champion this year? I don't think there was a moment of doubt. I definitely think there were some trying times, times where we were really trying to battle through adversity. but we knew we still could win the afc west and we always thought if

we got in the tournament we had a chance uh to go out there and win it all and um that that last cincinnati game um that we played and we we kind of got the offense moving at least a little bit and then the honestly for me the energy that we had that game that all the starters didn't play that kind of showed me like let's just have fun, man. Let's enjoy it. If we're going to go down, let's go down playing it the way the Kansas City Chiefs play. We carried that momentum into the playoffs. We did have some

wild moments throughout the year, but I think that's just age. All of us are getting a little older. When you're a little older, you know how it is. You've got to let it out sometimes. You can't bottle up all that emotion. We've got kids. We've got kids now. There's maybe some sleepless evenings. You get a call that has been called 11 times in the history of the game or something to change it.

I appreciated watching you get a little fiery. Because we assume, you know, because you're like the most likable superstar that there's been. You enjoy ketchup, that quarterback series. So good. The wrong ketchup. You were so, yeah, you need to start. Heinzetchup is obviously

you know. I'm not a Hunter or Hines guy. It's Ketchup in general, man. I'm everything right now. I respect that. I respect that. Quarterback, you're drinking Coors Lights. You're talking shit like you seem to be you know, like the coolest dude of all

time. So whenever we see that dog mentality in the fire come out, I want to let you know, we loved it. We appreciated it. I also appreciated the evolution in your game. You talked about it, I think, in one of your press conferences. About halfway through the year, you had to realize that Spag's defense is a real deal. Like, hey, maybe I don't need to risk it right now.

Maybe we just need to punt and let our defense do a thing. When do you start acknowledging that? What do you think that did for your game as a whole? And is that the, that's clearly the best defense that you've had since you've gotten to the NFL? Oh, 100%. I mean, I honestly think that defense is still underrated, man. If you look at the teams that they played and the way they were able to shut down some

great, great offenses, I mean, that's going to be one of the best postseason runs, at least, that defense has ever had. And I think I realized that after that Raiders game, whenever the Raiders only completed two passes or something like that in the second half, and we lost the game because of the offense, I was like, man, I got to stop putting us in bad situations. And I'm as aggressive as anybody, and I want to make plays all the time. And you have to find ways to win with whatever team that you have. And for us, that was letting the offense go in the second half or the first half whatever it was put up enough points um and letting defense shut the door um they did it all year long and they they really were the reason that we won that super

well i mean you had a game kind of 400 yeah you harrison booker from 70 you know all that works too hey he slipped and fell hit that ball fat hit it from 57 longest field goal in the history did you see his stats they're putting obviously you experience his stats his dude's unreal look at this 44 46 on a year 15 to 15 40 plus 7 to 7 40 obviously two field goals from 50 plus in the super bowl absolute weapon he had a game winning field goal last super bowl game tying super bowl this this super bowl absolute weapon for you pat Patrick. And Tommy Townsend's a dog as well. Your specialists are dogs. Oh, 100%.

Coach Tobe does a great job over there, Dave Tobe. He's been mentioned at head coaching interviews along his time in his career in Kansas City. They do a great job. Coach Reed's all about it, man. He wants specialists that can go out there and change the game, and that's what we have. And I don't talk to Harrison all year long, man.

I just let him do his thing. But I know if I can just cross that 40, man, if I cross that 40, he's going to put it through there. I don't know if you saw in the game, I got a little pressure to throw it short and knew Harrison was going to knock it through. Don't talk to him. Go say hello. It's not like in the lunchroom.

You can say hi in the lunchroom. No, we sit right beside each other in team meeting, and I don't say one word to him, only before the season that's the only time i talk to him smart hey it's working yep hey it is absolutely working go ahead aj what changed for you guys offensively from the first to the second half like in the first half they they seem to do a good job kind of trying to contain you in the pocket making everything pretty tough for you offensively what'd you guys do at halftime and how did you come out on fire in the second half? Honestly, I think they had a great game plan. Their linebackers were making an impact. They were really kind of taking out all those short intermediate game that we had kind of been living

on throughout the playoffs. And so I think we just got back to having some shot plays downfield and I had to know at the quarterback position if it's not there to throw it underneath the guys like Pacheco or Travis or whoever that is and let them run with the football and make plays happen that was kind of the biggest difference and then I think at halftime the guys just talked and said let's just be us man I'm kind of like I was talking about in that Chargers game I said if we're gonna go down let's have fun let's try to put on a show let's play hard and just see what see what happens and that's what the guys did. And I think the biggest play, the biggest drive, I think, wasn't for the offense.

It was after that interception, the defense got that quick three and out and got the ball right back to us. That kind of kept the momentum kind of in the balance. And it took everybody, man. And the offense got it going there late. And then their D-line, I think, got a little tired because we had the ball a little bit longer and we were able to get the ball down the field.

Momentum's real? Oh, momentum's for sure real. And then their D-line, I think, got a little tired because we had the ball a little bit longer and we were able to get the ball down the field. Momentum's real? Oh, momentum's for sure real. I mean, I've always believed that. I know some people don't believe it. And I think it can flip just like that. Yeah, absolutely. Well, we watched it. Yeah, we've actually watched it happen numerous times,

especially with you, a quarterback. You talk about some of the guys talking at halftime saying, hey, let's do us, let's have fun. We also heard about the speeches the night before. They're saying, like, Travis Kelsey gave, gave like one of the greatest speeches of all time. Who are the speakers? I assume you are also a guy that is talking to the team. And when does Andy Reid, does he tell you like two days in advance,

hey, you're going to speak? Or how does it kind of go over there with you guys in the team? Yeah, no, Coach Reid actually told us a couple days in advance. We didn't actually talk to each other at all. We just kind of all had our own speeches. It was me, Chris Jones, and Trav. Chris started it off. Chris's speech was amazing, man.

It was really cool to see. I mean, he's always the funny guy that enjoys life, but he was real serious, and he kept it light, but he really got the team going. Then Trav went, I mean, pure emotion. You can't fake the amount of emotion that man has. And like you said, had people tearing up. And then I have to go last.

I'm like, man, how do I even follow that? But I tried to do my best, man. But I wasn't as emotional as he was, but, I mean, it was – I just kind of told the guys, man, we're here for a reason. I mean, we are here for a reason. Let's go out there and maximize our opportunity. You never know when you're going to get back. What does Andy Reid do, like, offensively that makes you two the perfect fit?

You know, because he answered the question yesterday about, like, everybody's asking me about retirement. Why don't you ask Belichick or Pete Carroll about retirement? I guess I'm the old guy. Why do you think you two are so good for each other, you and Andy Reid? I think the biggest thing with Coach Reid, man, is he lets me be me. I could have went to a lot of different organizations, and I think they would have tried to make me play the quarterback position

in a different type of way, and I think he just let me be me out there on the football field. It doesn't always look pretty. It's always a little bit different. But he can teach the fundamentals. He can get the best out of me, and then he continues to push me to be even better. That's special, man.

I think that's why we have such personalities on this team. But whenever we're in the building, we're all about winning and however it takes to win, and I think that speaks to Coach Reed and the culture that he's built. How about the plays, too? Do you think about how pumped he was whenever he found out you were his quarterback? He's like, man, I just get this guy to run back 40 yards, and he'll just throw it 90 yards that way. do some quick math we're plus 50 it is absurd

watching you play football you know that you're like you're madden you are matt you're a video game quarterback oh man i try to be you know i i don't say i'm a quarterback man i say i'm just a football player i'm someone that uh just goes out there and just has to find a way to play win the game competitor um and uh i'll throw it sidearm i'll throw it left-handed i'll throw it underhand a football player. I'm someone that just goes out there and just has to find a way to win the game. Competitor. I'll throw it sidearm. I'll throw it left-handed. I'll throw it underhand. Whatever it takes to get the ball in the end zone. You get a shot put in the Super Bowl. That shot put.

I know it didn't get to the line of scrimmage, but I thought Noah was close enough. I thought he was close enough for them to not be intentional grounding. It all worked out. Hey, Gene Steratore was on your side. I think he was in the proximity there. I mean, we're in the Super Bowl here. Feels like a good play. You might as well have it. on your side. I think he was in the proximity there. I mean, we're in the Super Bowl here. It feels like a good play.

You might as well have it. D-Butt's got a question for you, Patrick. Speaking of good plays, and Patrick, we talked about it yesterday, your performance in the second half, and specifically Super Bowls, and these plays, whether it's Tommy Jerry Wright, Corndog, Wasp, how hard is it, number one, to sit on those plays until those got-to-have-it moments? And then what is it like when you have that interaction with Andy, you know that play is calling, you feel great about it?

Honestly, I'm always trusting the coach Reed, man. He makes those perfect time calls right when we need them. We have open communication the entire game about it. That Tom and Jerry play, we had talked about, we had worked on it. It was like the last play that we had put in the offense during Super Bowl week. We actually didn't even have it in at the very beginning of the week. And so for him to sit on that play until that moment, and then even more than that, I mean, sorry for my language, to have the balls to call that play in that moment,

I mean, it speaks to him, man. I mean, it speaks to him that he calls those kind of – I don't want to call them trick plays, but those very specific plays and big moments and has the trust in us to go out there and make it happen. Hey, do you see yourself – you watch us do this one? This one here? Oh, yeah, yeah. I have to put the pressure on him.

I want to get that huddle going, man. Just let's go. Let's go. Your hand gets going like 600 beats a second potentially. And if it's a bad play too, that's on bitches. Come on. Need the next one. Yeah, the tongue chewing on it.

We are ready to go. I love it. Hey, Pat, you are a phenom, dude. And it has to suck to have everybody say that to you. But you just won your third Super Bowl, so accept the compliment. We appreciate you in football, dude. Legit. It sucks.

I appreciate you. It sucks, though. We had this conversation this morning. I'm a Colts fan, obviously. There's a Steelers fan in football. Hell yeah. Legit. It sucks. I appreciate you. It sucks, though. We had this conversation this morning. I'm a Colts fan, obviously. There's a Steelers fan in here. There's a Dolphins fan in here. There's Lions fans in here. There's so many different Patriots fans in here.

It's like, are you retired? So you said, I think when you got in, you said, I want four Super Bowls, right? So you already got three. You get one more, then you're out? You're done? Is that what we're thinking? No, no. I'm not going to be done playing anytime soon.

I want my son to be able to grow up in the locker room like I grew up. How old is your son? He's still got a lot of life left. He's one years old. Just turned one in November. I'm going to work on getting this three-peat, man. No three-peat ever, so we're working on that now. Okay, so I heard you guys talk about that, you and Travis.

I think you guys were with Boom and Boog on NFL primetime after the game. Thank you for stopping by there. Obviously, Boomer, Berman's a legend, and we love Boog as well. The conversation, though, Travis, I think, said after we won the first one, we had a conversation about how there's a lot of teams that just won one Super Bowl and then kind of

disappeared. You guys had your eyes on Dynasty immediately, almost. Is that goal coming in down when does that become like reality like hey there's only been one team that's really been able to accomplish what we want to accomplish that's the patriots for the last 20 years are you comparing yourselves to them are you kind of like keeping a score as if like at this stage of their dynasty we did this and when did that become like the focal point for you um i'm gonna throw our pr guy under the bus a little bit i actually i messed up he said i met not not messed up but he told me

not to say it again in my first year starting i said dynasty and he and he did not like that i said that and so i brought it back up to him after the game i said remember when i said it that first year starting uh we got something going now um but uh, it's something that I don't know if I'm necessarily chasing, like, one team or one thing. I just want to make my stamp on the game. And I think we want to make our stamp on the game as Kansas City Chiefs. And in order to do that, you have to be great year in and year out. I mean, you're not always going to win the Super Bowl.

We're going to try to, but you're not always going to. But you want to make sure that you give everything you have to give yourself the best opportunity. Then you can live with what happens. We've won three. We've still got a lot of young players. We can keep Trav and Coach Reed around even longer. I think we'll have as good a chance as anybody to keep winning them.

I just learned this. Of course you called a dynasty after first year as Pash Mahose. This sucks. You know what I mean? You want to get traded to the Colts? I'm going to call Veach tomorrow. What a dog, dude. Connor has a question for you, pal. Yeah, Patrick,

we talked to Tom Brady two weeks ago, and we asked him about the whole conversation now, where it's, you know, how close is Patrick Mahomes to Tom Brady? And actually, this morning, this is a new one, haven't seen it. Is Patrick Mahomes closer to Tom Brady than LeBron James is to Michael Jordan? That's going to be every morning for the next...

Sports media, baby! Probably for the rest of your life, honestly. But how do you feel when you see those things? Is that something that you hate? Do you love it, obviously, because you're being compared to Tom Brady, and if you're being compared to him, that means you're winning Super Bowls? Or is this one of those things, like you kind of just mentioned, you just want to be the Patrick Mahomes of the NFL, not being compared to another guy?

I mean, I like it, because he's the greatest of all time. So I like being compared to him. But I still have so long that I have to go in my career. If you look at the longevity, the consistent greatness that he had every single year, all I can do is just try to continue to be the best me every single day that I have and have no regrets. And I actually heard Tom say this a while back, and that was his goal, was just to be the best version of Tom day that I have and have no regrets. And I actually heard Tom say this a while back. And that was his goal was just to be the best version of Tom Brady that he

can be. And all that other stuff kind of happens. All that other stuff kind of comes with it. If you continue to work hard and, and continue to get great teammates around you. But I've been blessed, man. I've been blessed to be in a great organization with great players. And if I can just continue to work the way that I work, I'll have no regrets about however my career ends. So still very motivated.

You know, they say it's hard to wake up and fight whenever you're waking up in satin sheets. We saw that new house you built. Whoa. How nice is that house? At par three. I got a Skycam on that thing. They got a full drone shot.

You got a par three in there, football field. Do you see the spread? Poop. Oh, like a basket. Oh, it is so nice. So now spread? Poop. Oh, like a basket. Oh, it is so nice. So now it's just chasing a legacy, huh? How are you?

Yeah, no. Yeah, you know, we got the house, got the family, you know, just trying to enjoy it, man. I mean, we are chasing a legacy. We're trying to do whatever we can to be the best we can be. But I think the biggest thing for me is just enjoying it day by day, man. I'm blessed, man. I'm blessed with a lot of things in life. Yeah, you're fantastic at what you do. Pretty girl's got a mom that's a Sports Illustrated swimsuit mom.

Yep. And a dad that's already being talked about as the greatest of all time. Hey, I can't wait to see you be president, sir. I can't wait to see you probably be president in the United States. Kelsey in my homes, baby. Kelsey in my homes. We're coming in once we're done with football. I love that.

Tone Diggs got a question for you, Pat. Yeah, Pat. I've noticed, or I guess I think a lot of people have noticed, I think you rushed for almost 70 yards on Sunday. You rushed for 50, I think, in last year's Super Bowl, and you generally rush for more in the playoffs. Is that like a conscious effort where it's just you're not as worried about getting hurt in the playoffs because it's the playoffs, or is that just a natural thing that comes to you and

if you thought if i do this in the regular season you could probably rush maybe rush for 1200 and throw for 5000 we think about or it might be it might be a little too late in my career to get those rushing yards like that but um it honestly is a conscious thing that i know that i'm not going to slide as much in the postseason i'm gonna try to get those extra yards because every drive means so much more and um i always joke around but i am a little bit fast i can kind of make some stuff happen out there um and that's stuff that i work on i feel like i'm more athletic now than i've ever been and i think that just comes with the work that i put in okay so let's not talk about the athleticism let's talk about that big brain underneath that hair that you still have. Happy you didn't cut it.

Good news. Good move. Hey, it's gone this offseason, I promise y'all. I almost did it today, and this came on today with it. But I got to do something. I would have been devastated. You go back-to-back Super Bowls with that hair, and then you're trying to go for a three-peat,

and you just change the whole hairstyle. We don't believe in any stiches. I got a three-year-old at home. I can't just keep the mohawk going. I got going at least change it up a little bit after you go three after you win four straight after you know now's not the time you aren't you a bait didn't you grow up in baseball that seems like i'm i know that's the only reason i didn't do it last year now i'm in the same predicament man hi god man yeah man it's gotta win no super bowl i guess go ahead aj hey i know your event of of these Super Bowl parades.

What's the plan for this year? Obviously, now you know the lay of the land. You know what it's going to be like. How excited are you to get out there with your teammates and coaches? And tarp off, huh? Tarp off? Yeah, I might have to bring the dad bod out. It was a bad angle.

But that angle of the locker room, so I might bring it back out. No, I'm for sure going to have a few Coors lattes. I'm going to have a good time with my teammates. I know the parade are out now, but I enjoy it every time, man. There's nothing better than that Super Bowl parade, and Kansas City always shows up and shows out. Sterling is absolutely beautiful. How old is she?

I appreciate it. She turns three on February 20th, so we're right around the corner. Hey, happy birthday. Can't hear us. Say happy birthday. You're the best. Patrick, enjoy life, man. hear us. Say happy birthday. You're the best. Patrick, enjoy life, man. We're very bummed that you don't play for our team,

but we've all enjoyed watching you play football. 202 million people watched that game, they said. Did you see that? Yeah, they said more than the moon landing, man. So, I mean, the most viewed thing on television. So, we definitely want to the moon. I'm like 50-50. We've been there.

We've been there. I believe that we have, but there is some evidence out there that makes me at least think about it. I'll say it that way. Hey, you're allowed to have an open mind. Don't let anybody tell you anything different. You're Patrick Holmes. Amen. Do what you got to do.

Keep crushing it. We're very thankful you're a part of our league. You're going to end up making over a billion dollars with NFL contracts, and your business sense and savviness is fantastic as well. Keep crushing it, pal. Appreciate you. Sterling says thanks as well. Hey, no problem.

She got a pencil. She's writing down plays. Lazy job, Patrick Mahomes. Thank you, buddy. Hey, Patrick. What's up? You worried about the half-teens? We're cooked.

We're dead. I'm just glad I had Patriots hat there. Unless he cuts his hair. Yeah, what's he even? That was foolish. Yeah. I know that he's not going to do that. Travis is not going to let him do that.

He sits down. There's no way he sits down and says, yep, do it. Yep, just one piece of people. Unless parade day. Might have a couple of horse lattes. Then that might be the only way to beat the possible jinx is doing it in front of the city of Kansas City. See, I think we're screwed still there because Tom changed his hair and face a few times and still won't surprise us. No, no, no.

Tony. Tony. He did have money different. No, no, his. Tony. Tony. He did have many different hair. No, no, his facial hair. Facial hair. Hey, did you hear that Chris speaking? Thank you, Patrick, for joining us. Oh, yeah.

Yes. Beast. Just brings his daughter in. See how calm she was, by the way? Yeah. I can't believe you guys got another superstar quarterback to come on here and tout conspiracy theories. Shut up, Nick.

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Nick, don't. I mean, I feel like that might have slipped by Axelrod. I thought that might have slipped by. Axelrod. I'm 50-50 on it. As soon as I heard that, I'm like, well, here we go. That was awesome. He said, there is some evidence, you know.

That goes into it even more. He's a human. What is wrong with this guy? Nothing. What is wrong with this guy? Nothing. What is wrong with this guy? Absolutely nothing. That sucks for every other team. Man.

Thanks for stopping by, Patrick Rue in our life. Feels like when C.J. Stroud comes by, it's like, okay, who's this guy? Yeah. He's in the Anthony Richardson same thing. No, he's not. Nobody is. Might be. We're back tomorrow.

I mean, I'm pretty bummed out. See you then. Jesus. I mean, I'm bummedmed out. See you then. Jesus. I mean, I'm bummed about what just happened right there. He was too normal. Was he not? He's a guy. He is a guy.

Coors Latte, is he saying? Yeah. Yeah, if I were you guys. He's going to be boozed up tomorrow. He's 28 years old. You guys got to be so bummed. Taking team-friendly deals. I mean, you guys.

Not even renegotiating. Like, they've told him, like, numerous times, like, you are certainly worth about $15 to $20 million more per year. We'll deal with that later. Okay. Okay, thanks. I'm happy we'll deal with that later. Why does everybody do that at the quarterback position?

Oh, we need to tie this thing up. We only got a minute 46 left. Okay, no problem. Oh, we need to go win this one. Okay, we can tie it. Send us a double overtime. The entire internet will lose its shit because Sean McManus did his thing. No problem. Oh, we need to go win this one. Okay, we can tie it. Send us a double overtime. The entire internet will lose its shit because Sean McManus did his thing.

Or you can just say, fuck it, and go win the game. Oh, I'm going to go do that, actually. This dude is a weapon, bro. Absolute weapon. How long can he remain a human, you think? If he is, he obviously is still very much a human and a relatable person. So I would imagine he's going to run. Yeah, this is him. This is who he is.

Or fucked. Yeah, I think like that generation, like Lamar, it's kind of the same way. I mean, granted, obviously, Lamar hasn't had the Super Bowls, but like Lamar hasn't changed. He's been the same. They're not scared to be real. It's cool. They're not scared to be real, even though you're the, you are international superstar. CJ's talking shit on Burt Kreischer, literally.

Yes. In the middle of that. That was great. It was. That was great. What did he say? Smell it. What he smells in here. He called him, literally. In the middle of that. That was great. That was great. What did he say? What does he smell in here? He called him a muscle hamster or something like that.

Hey, how many push-ups do you think this guy did? Three and a half? CJ said. He's on. He was just on. Man, each one, he's like, nah, he's not going all the way up. He said, you want some dough stories? I'm here for C4.

What are we even talking about? Like, the way, and that was kind of what Nick Casario said. He said the thing we liked most about CJ is CJ was always CJ. Like there was no – we put him in some tough moments in front of all of our personnel. He's the exact same person. Like think about Patrick Mahomes in front of every – he's always the same guy. Shotgun and beers with Luke Combs. That video obviously will hit the internet every once in a while.

He's got some nice bootcut jeans on with some cowboy boots up there. Then he'll obviously golf out at the American Century Championship out at Lake Tahoe. He'll have some booze and some pops. He's a human too. He's old school while being the greatest of all time now in 2024. It's like, why does this

happen? Why? How does this exist? How does this guy? Who is the next? Now we're going to say who is the next Patrick Mahomes? There's too many distractions. There's too many opportunities outside the field.

There's too many reasons to have an ego for Patrick Mahomes to exist at this exact time. So none of it makes sense, but we appreciate that alien joining us and seemingly being the most human and relatable superstar that we've talked to in some time. That's why, like, the next conversation about Mahomes is weird because the NIL has changed the next generation already. Patrick Mahomes

wasn't in the NIL generation. He was before it. So does that affect how these quarterbacks come in? Obviously, you're coming in as a quarterback top pick. You've been the man your whole life, of course, but now all these guys coming in who are the top picks, they're millionaires already. We will support Patrick Mahomes because he's about to carry the league on his back to the biggest it's ever been.

You know, like the Rockets, Stone Cold Steve Austin, and D-Generation X put the WWF on its back and made it this multi-billion dollar global. There's obviously wrestlers before them that have done a lot. Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant, Ric Flair. There's Bruno San Martino, Pittsburgh Bison legend. I mean, there's a lot of... But like what the Rock, Stone Cold, and DX did was just take it to the world.

It's like what Patrick Mahomes is about to do with the NFL. In Lamar, in Josh, in Joey B, in C.J. Stroud, in his crew, Anthony Richardson, and his crew. What they're about to do for the game. I mean, just a game in Brazil is happening week one. It's about to become the global just dominant sport,

and we got the right guys to be carrying the torch it feels like. Yeah, we do. Remember the time when we were saying, like, oh, what are we going to do when the Tom Brady, the Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, and all these guys are out of the league? Who's the next star? Who's going to be there? I think time has proven there are.

We have the stars in waiting. And we have a guy like Patrick Mahomes. We thought, I don't know, do we think anyone would have three Super Bowl rings like this early? There's no way. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. We got them. And those are the top guys. Brock Purdy's the last pick of the draft

and he's the top 10 quarterback. Even if you look at those type of players, we have no idea. I mean, shit, the best quarterback in next year's draft could be a third-round pick. And we have no idea until a year from now. Yeah, but remember, during the draft spectacular, we've got to act like. Oh, no, whoever the Patriots pick is going to win the next 10-2. That's the next C.J. Stroud. Yeah, no, no, no.

Please, that's the next Patrick Mahomes, brother. We're looking at. Well, C.J. might be the next Patrick Mahomes. No, no, sorry. C.J. had his chances this year. Kansas City was Kansas City.J. Stroud. Yeah. No, no, no. Please. That's the next Patrick Mahomes, brother. We're looking at it. Well, C.J. might be the next Patrick Mahomes. No, no. Sorry. C.J. had his chances this year. Kansas City was Kansas City. Kansas City had his chance.

Yeah. Stroud had his chance. This was his year. It's over. He had his chance. His rookie year. What Mahomes did his first year started. Won the MVP.

Stroud didn't. So, sorry. No, his first year he didn't play. Yeah, I know. His first year started. But still, either way. I didn't see you add that caveat. What did Mahomes do in his first year he didn't play. Yeah, I know. First year starting. But still, either way. I didn't see you add that caveat to it. What did Mahomes do in his first year playing games?

Playing football games. In the NFL. 50 touchdowns. Yeah, he won four. How about him saying after the first year, I'm looking to build a dynasty here in PR guys. Hey, Patrick, let's not put that much pressure on yourself, okay? He's like, get used to the pressure, pal.

I'm your quarterback now. Let's go ahead and move on. Dude called a dynasty. And here they are. Sick. We didn't even ask about Taylor. What are we doing? Are we doing sports?

Oh, boy. That's not his business. You're right. Who all performed at the post celebration? Post Malone? Chain Smoker. Diplo. The Chain Smokers?

Yeah, Chain Smokers. They got a good gig. Chain Smokers? Yeah, Chain Smokers. They got a good gig. Chain Smokers got a good gig. They and Travis are pretty tight, I think. Jason performed a little bit before he hit that tree. Kelsey. Well, he was a good sell. He was luchador.

It was a good sell. He had a week. Maybe the greatest playoff run of all time by Jason Kelsey. Congrats to him. He won a Super Bowl. Yes, he did. Jason Kelsey won a Super Bowl. We're proud of him.

All right, let's get to a break. Hour three will be on the other side. We've got P.K. Subban joining us, talking about hockey. What the hell's going on in hockey? Oilers lost. People are not happy. Guys are taking slappers on empty nets with 10 seconds left in the game. Oh, I saw that cross-check to the face immediately after the clapper on the empty net.

Get what you deserve. The Battle of Ontario. I saw Reeves come out and say, this younger generation of hockey kids are playing a different sport. They don't even know what you deserve. The Battle of Ontario. I saw Reeves come out and say, this younger generation of hockey kids are playing a different sport. They don't even know what this is. You take a clapper into an empty net, yeah, you're going to get cross-checked in the face. Can't be hot-dogging out there.

It was also the clapper was only 73 miles per hour, so Ally Afraidy 105, let me remind you. Wouldn't stick. Wasn't barely a clapper at all, to be honest. Is that like an unwritten rule? Yeah. You can't be taking slappers and an empty net on a breakaway debutch. Can't.

Can't. Especially in the Battle of Ontario. That's like Zion Duncan at the end of the game with the clock running down against the sun. Windmill. Yeah. All right, we'll see what PK has to say because our Canadians saying this is a big no-no. Bush League. Bush League.

Bush League. Gump, how's it going, pup? It's a good spot. I like it. It's good to be here. You look good. Good to be here. AJ can notice it all the way from Ohio.

He does look good, doesn't he? He looks great. I think D-Bud looks good there and Ty's spot. But yeah, Conman, that is your best shirt of the year, by the way. That's crazy. Best shirt of the year. That's a phenomenal shirt. This year or back in September?

I think it is. What about the one he dumped his pants on? This whole football season. It's like a flamingo, but it's like a mushroom. It's like a bunch of things at once. It's just a flamingo. And actually, the camera doesn't do it justice. I can't believe this is the real.

I mean, I'm going to be completely honest. This is an offseason shirt for him. It's actually fucking pissing me off. You literally. It really is. This is like your last fit. It's very. It's shoot pissing me off.

Because I walked into this fucking office at least 10 times. Like, best shirt by far. By far. Yeah, you peacock. The one time. No, only once. When everyone was watching that video and I was like, hey, fuckers, look at the shirt.

That was only the one time. Look at me. I've only done the look at me one time. And then I walk in here just with an off-season flamingo and people are fucking six to midnight. Good shirt. You never know what's going to go. It doesn't matter.

I guess. What's the point anymore? Bro, if you're trying to bunt and the ball accidentally goes out of the park, who cares. I guess. What's the point anymore? If you're trying to bunt and the ball accidentally goes out of the park, who cares? I guess. You want to mail this one in

on offseason shirt? No, no, no. I wore it with the idea, hey, people are going to like this shirt, but I did not expect, hey, this is the best fucking shirt you've had.

Way to go, bud. Even your seventh rounders are feeling it. Yeah, I guess. You got Mr. Irrelevant on your chest right now. To be fair, this is from a new batch. This wasn't like a, hey, I don't have to wear this in the season. We can tell.

Thank you. We like the new batch. I'm excited to see the rest of the batch. Yesterday was also part of the new batch. You guys also love that one. I mean, fuck. What? What is wrong?

Why didn't these come in last week? Or the week before that? Your Super Bowl shirts were phenomenal. They were. This doesn't take anything away from your Super Bowl shirts. Not as good as that shirt. But yeah, they were good. Well, it It doesn't take anything away from your Super Bowl shirts. Not as good as that shirt, but yeah, they were good. Well, it's getting better every day, AJ, of course.

Yeah, that's a goal, but still. Fucking A. Good shirt, dude. Thank you. You know what? Good shirt, dude. Thank you. I'm going to... Great shirt.

Groovy shirt, brother. Thank you. Sweet flamingo shirt, dude. Thank you. Brother, I'd like you to honor us honoring your shirt, brother. Thank you. Watch Mana from that shirt to me. Lots of fine words for your shirt, dude. Thank you. Brother, I'd like you to honor us honoring your shirt, brother. Thank you. Watch Mana from that shirt to me. Lots of fine words for your shirt, brother.

Thank you, brothers. I'm trying to get to the point where I am going to start next football season. Day one, September 5th, when we kick off. That shirt. This will be the shirt. Whoa, that's quite a high start. Whoa. Yeah, exactly.

I thought you were supposed to get better as the year goes on. No, no, not next year. You can't get any better after that. Not next year. You have to keep in mind my football season this year was two weeks. So I have to wear the shirts that I'm going to want to wear for the Patriots early. The draft season came quick for the New England Patriots. Draft season was at the end of September.

I mean, fuck. I'm so glad we're done with this year. I'm so happy I can look forward to an actual team that could be good. After that conversation with Patrick Mahomes, I think draft season's potentially for the next decade. But that's fine. That's completely fine. Anthony Richardson's the guy.

It's got to be. You go back. I mean, things can happen. That was the only worry I have, though, is that the football era for quarterbacks between 2004 and 2014 is a lot different than what it is today. That was legitimately, legitimately like the worst weapons mahomes has ever had this year and they had their worst season this year and they won the

super bowl three seed let's get to a break my kind of hair or no that'll be all right something always happens on the road had to win on the road too people didn't think that could happen travis might get married and retire joey b is kind of their kryptonite a little bit yeah he's healthy he's no joey b he hasn't been healthy yeah and t higgins is leaving they're saying tiggins actually might go to jacksonville they're saying franchise tag aren't they t higgins oh i don't know because i thought people were saying all these big wide receivers everybody's saying franchise tag that's what they're saying it makes sense that's what johan jennings a free agent, too? That dude would have won an MVP. What a throw.

How about Tony Romo saying, and Jim going, it took a long time to get it. It was a 50-yard. That's a bomb. Perfect strike, too. That's very dangerous to throw. Bro, the field is very wide. People, obviously it is longer than it is wide. Of course, it's a rectangle, not a square, but

this is like a 47-yard ball. That's a hot one. With the guy barely down on him. He was a four-star quarterback coming out of high school. It took a long time to get there. It's like, no shit! That's how he did that in college. You guys see the side-by-side when he did this in college? Pretty sweet.

Tennessee. Taking a huge shot. Great block by 74. And then Christian McCaffrey hits that seventh gear. It's gone. And then they stop mccaffrey hits that seventh gear gone and then they stop running the ball to start the second half then he catches a touchdown right becomes the first guy did nick foals not throw one so yeah yeah he's uh after janine's threw the touchdown pass i took janine's to win mvp plus 10 000. because i was like if he gets in now he might win it that game ends he in regulation. He would have won it. He had another touchdown, too.

He would have won it. Dude, he's plus 10,000 after he threw that pass. Hey, great game, Juwan J. Great year. Great year. Great blocker. He only had 19 catches, I think, through the season is what everybody said. That's the biggest moment he became the guy. Mr. Third Don. Third and what? Jennings, they were called? I don't know

if that number was right. Also, yesterday I said all-female flyover. That was last year. That's okay. Still happening. Still cool to acknowledge it. Still honored him. Still honored him. I'm glad we acknowledge it. There's all men this year. I forgot about it last year. Probably all women flyover. I don't know

if you can say female anymore. Sorry, what? That's just what I heard. D-Bite, don't do this. My home just did the whole moon landing thing. All right. Okay. What'd I say? You said female.

All female fly over. That may be offensive to some. All women. Is it? Yeah. Well, there's men still in the women. Is it because there's male in there? Nah, I don't think so.

I'm just, hey. Well, should we survey Sergeant Dornenberg? Yeah, we'll make sure we don't offend so I'm just Don't Don't Feels like that one's gonna piss Me off trying to remember But I will If that's gonna make people happy

Can you say girls or ladies? No, no, no I mean, you're at the point where you draw your line I'm saying female, I'm drawing my fucking line I'm sorry, I'm not doing this I'm not dancing to the music of these other people anymore I'm fucking female. I'm drawing my fucking line. I'm sorry. I'm not doing this I'm not dancing to the music of these other people anymore. I'm fucking done with it. Hell. Yeah, who are the people? Who's the people? You know exactly who they are. We the people.

It's not them. Jeez. Kid. Dude, that's smack fest. Oh, yeah. That sound was phenomenal. It was. It was absurd.

How would you feel going out for that? You know, like if you're a UFC fighter, a ufc fighter i'm gonna try to eat a bunch of shots but you know they were walking right by us not only that we walked by them in the hallway yeah what was their demeanor like where they i would be struggling yeah they're right here this is uh i'm getting knocked out like that you're you're walking onto a stage to get knocked out chance tell you what was in that crowd i felt uh Southside circa 2008. You had to be, if you bumped a shoulder, just be prepared that there was knuckles coming behind it. Southside is Pittsburgh, which they had the most bars.

For Aaron Donald to save some kid, right? Yeah. In doing so, he had to throw a couple others, but that's Southside. That's what it used to be. That's what it felt like. That's what that crowd was. The guy who was fighting that was slapping that lost to

Manuel or Munez or whoever it was who didn't have the purple hair, he was going ballistic in the line walking out as they're filming him. He went like, towards us and Tony almost slapped him and knocked him out and then I would have had to face the champion.

You would not have knocked that guy out. He lost, so have I lost? He's called it. Have I lost and slapped? So it was a five-rounder. It was a five-rounder. And I think old buddy who was undefeated, the dude had tattoos on his head and face from North Dakota

wearing clean Air Force Ones. He was peacocking around. Dana expected him to win. I believe he was favored to win. I think he realized in the first two smacks, oh no, I don't know if I got it with this guy. Guy had purple hair. So not a bad technique, I guess, for the third one. Use

a club. Knock him out cold. Then all of a sudden, old buddy gets two shots back. There's a little bit of head game there. Two shots back if you palm strike him? Yeah, if they answer the bell. Also also the time of it my old buddy from north dakota was going on three so he had like the one two three other guy purple hair was going on one only no he went one on the first one on the first one yeah he changed lynching too going on what yeah he was moving his

head yeah moving his head like yes you can't do that you can't do that trying to cheat a lot of nuances how do you decide a brace or do they. Trying to cheat. A lot of nuances. How do you decide? Do they brace or do they go limp? How do you do it? You got to hold a stick behind you. From what I realize, I didn't read the rule book, but I was there pretty close. And you got to lock into a spot.

So there's like, and then you tell the ref how many attempts. I think three is probably the max. That's usually. With a measure or something, too. So like the first one, you're allowed to like gauge it and they're like right hand three. So then it's literally one, two. And on the third one,

boom, we're coming, but your face, you're not allowed to move it. I don't think you're allowed to change planes. You're not allowed to move at all. You have to stay as still as possible. You can't like go with it too.

You can't go early with it. No. Cause if you flinch another shot i think yeah i mean and did you know that bill is slap's biggest fan i heard he was chanting alongside he knew all the names he knew he knew every walk songs bill bill bill knew it all i thought that was he's the weaponibly annoying during that. He was saying his heroes. Hey, Bill.

Hey, so what's the flinching rule? They're not allowed to move how many inches? Because the North Dakota guy did have his head budging a little bit, but what if he is literally incapable of standing still? There are some people that are not capable of standing still. It's kind of a judgment thing. You can kind of brace a little bit,, you can kind of, like, brace a little bit,

but you can't, like, ride with the slap or, like, move where the contact is supposed to happen. So the ref is actually judging whether or not there was fuckery happening. The ref and then the Nevada Gaming Commission, as we saw, with that one clubbing rule. That's a lot. Who's your favorite slap artist? It has to be Emmanuel No Love Munez.

That's the purple hair guy. Yes, yeah. I mean, he's an absolute monster. So you've known him through the ranks? So Foxy and I, as long as we've been watching, he's been on every single one of these. Oh, yeah. Foxy, you're?

Foxy, excuse me? Yeah. Yeah, I remember Dana came on and he promoted them, so I watched the first two or three of them. Four or five. Yeah. That guy's been on them. And then I think the Big Oost also has been there since the beginning, if I remember correctly.

He was heavyweight, super heavyweight. He got punched in the face. So there's weight classes. So at the beginning, winning the coin toss was everything. Because if you win, you get the first smack. Usually you win. I don't know how they decided who got to smack first in this one. Was there a coin toss?

I assume the champ maybe, though. Yeah, exactly. I think it's different now. That shit was wild, though. I feel like I've been to a lot of things in a lot of different countries, seen a lot of things, been very fortunate and lucky to be like, yeah, I'll go check that out. Yeah, I'll go check that out.

The slap fest? That thing was different than anything. I was saying the seating was how you get slapped first. I'm intrigued. I want to go now. I would go again for sure. I got to go at least once. It's like going to the Sphere. Going to U2 at the Sphere. You got. I want to go now. I would go again for sure. I got to go at least once. It's like going to the Sphere.

Going to U2 at the Sphere. You got to see it once, right? I'd go again. This is 10 million times better than U2 at the Sphere. We already have an article or 10. To be fair. Chris Fowler's not happy with you, Foxy. I would slap in the Sphere would be awesome.

Oh, my. With the seats? Yeah. Fowler's never seen those seats rumbled what twice during the entire show that was a good use of those well they were very all right let's get to a break we need wwe at the sphere asap i will assume that that'll take place yeah need diplo at the sphere anyone bingo yeah we need like a vg at the show yes a vg i think bring him up maybe alive no no maybe alive. Do you think?

Can you imagine Michael Jackson back in the day at the Spheres? Coldplay. That was a weird way for him to die. Exactly. Too weird. Dave Matthews. A glass bottle. Prince.

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D.M. D.M actually talking about dmv without a show it's oh especially the vibes it just feels like the vibes there would be good literally anybody i mean we're starting to think anybody zb yeah kygo zach brown band in there imagine kenny chesney get to use that entire place blake shell would be on my board blake show yeah on that thing he uses uh just a smaller version that on every single one of his shows. Imagine if he fucking... People are telling us that we should have known those songs. We're there. We didn't. I like U2.

I know U2. No chance. Nobody knows those fucking songs. I will say, Thorne, the sing-along scene, that wasn't a big give and take. No. There were certainly the U2 truthers in there. I thought they were piping it in, maybe. I thought they might have been piping it in through those special been piping in through those special speakers when he had the phone i was like bro i want to i want to go with you i don't know

what the fuck you're doing you should have flown out on that balloon what happened there chris fowler texted me and said you guys are so funny the song isn't even called hello, hello. It basically is. It's called. What is it? He said. Vertigo. It's called Vertigo, yeah. You guys sing play hello, hello. We know. It's not even a name.

It's all we know. No, I did not know. I learned from that text message. I had no clue. I'm a casual. I only know a couple of U2 songs. I apologize. I was going to the Sphere during Super Bowl week,

and U2 was the show of choice. Wanted to go see Portrait of Earth or whatever. Yeah, exactly. That's what really pissed me off about U2 is that they ruined our next fucking night going to see it. It was tough to rally the group after that first show to go back. I think they lost me with all the words of the second song. Well, yeah.

Those are the words. I'm glad they stopped that was a lot in a little while it's good popped up different words orgasm was maybe the only positive yeah it was it was like the only positive word i feel like that we saw popped into the 16 trillion words that were up there there you yeah i couldn't even look at that yeah that was 160 milligrams just like what stop, stop. Stop, please. Is this guy hypnotizing me? And then it's like, Chris Rock.

How about that? Here's a game. It was his birthday. And then it was like, I was trying to memorize the words. I'm like, all right, this is a game. Okay. This has to be a sentence.

He's going to quiz you at the end. He's going to ask you at the end. You got to repeat. Boom. That's my thought. I'm like, I'm going to get this motherfucker. And I'm like, at first I'm just getting like, fucking boom, bang, boom, with these words. I'm like, I'm going to get this motherfucker. And I'm like starting to pay. I'm like, at first, I'm just getting like fucking boom, bang, boom with these words.

I'm like, all right. All right. I'm going to memorize these goddamn words. So I started like looking at them. I'm like, come on, Pat. Let's see if we still got it or not. There's literally a thousand words. So many.

And I was paying attention to every single one. I was trying to piece them together. Didn't feel like any rhyme or reason. Like there was no story being told. And they were almost all negative. Oh, yeah. All negative. Some numbers in there, too.

Brainwashed. Which ones? Bad ones. Whoa. Bad numbers? Like what? What numbers? Sixes.

Sixes were in there, yeah. Really? Oh, yeah. Not the ranch in Texas. I saw Colt in there a few times. What? I said you're not fucking getting me tonight. What do you mean back in the day?

Let's go to a break. MKUltra? Still happening. Maybe everybody else gets hypnotized at the beginning, so whenever they leave, they go, yeah, good concert. And we were just all too high and drunk. We were all smart enough not to. It's a good tip.

Yeah, we were just too dumb. It's a good tip. We were too dumb. That was terrible. It doesn't make sense, man. It was great. It doesn't make sense. It truly great. It doesn't make sense. It truly doesn't.

The crowd was not into it like I thought they would. Well, we were all a bunch of casuals. I think that didn't play the hits. Too many casuals. Super Bowl crowd wasn't the right crowd. Once again, they weren't horny enough. You can tell sometimes when a crowd's all horned up. And those crowds, you did.

Oh, that picture of you that popped up at the Sphere is amazing. You'll see it. Whoever took it, you're just sitting there looking at the screen. Oh, I'm so pumped. AQ. Yeah, so confused. Phil and AQ did have a good time with my reactions. There was a couple times where I was really trying to pay attention,

just trying to figure out how this is what we got to. Like, how is this the decision for it? And Dana kind of told me that this was going to happen. Five percent. Yeah. Yeah. I was flustered. I love this picture.

It's so good. You were hypnotized. Oh, boy. I was trying my best, wasn't I? But see, look at the guys next to us. They're talking to each other. They don't give a fuck either because they're not playing any good music. We were paying attention.

Yeah, I believe this is from Phil. This photo's from Phil. Yeah. We gave it a shot. We were locked in. Phil turned around and looked at me at one point and just started laughing in my face and I was like, okay, I'm happy to know that my face is

reflecting exactly what's going on in my brain. And then AQ started slapping me at one point because I was like having a full conversation with myself. What are we doing? And AQ got it on film, the whole thing. So I became like a zoo creature in there. Yeah.

So I moved to the back. Like maybe I'm missing it. In the back, you don't even get to see the... No, you don't see anything. You don't get to see... We're not going to continue to talk about U2, okay? Because there's a lot of passionate U2 fans out there. We want to let you know we wanted to become onesable.

Yes. We wanted to join you guys. And the next lot of passionate YouTube fans out there. We want to let you know we wanted to become ones of them. We wanted to join you guys. The next residency, whoever it is, we'll have to go and we'll judge it as accordingly. We are doofuses. We're not necessarily the people you want to be the fans. It's the same thing that you're fans of as well.

Especially if you feel like you have good opinions. Right? Yes. And again, I like you two. I know north of 10 songs, actually know them You know Aerials? No That's a system of downtime

Come on, come on, you're down with the sickness That's disturbed Aerials Bruce had that much fun Matt Brown. Bruce slept through the entirety. It was an actual zoo animal.

Because he came so hard when the seat was vibrating. He went to sleep. Yes, he did. No, it was. I thought I was going to have a seizure during all the words. And I said, I got cold my eyes here. And then I woke up. I hit the dust.

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm starting to overthink this a little bit. Maybe having a seizure. I hypnotized. Holy shit. He's already freaking me out. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm starting to overthink this a little bit. Maybe having a seizure. Let me go ahead and close it. He actually did get hypnotized. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. We got you. We got to be careful of him going forward now because of that hypnotism. All right. Let's get to a break. The sphere is awesome. The sphere itself is sick. It's like the first ever modern day Marvel that i've experienced oh i think that's probably

a good way to describe it because it's just 8k led boards so sick thousands of them i have no idea how you build that i have no idea how they afforded it the the architecture how did they make it round without it being square all of it makes no sense especially with how high def it is aka up in the top like you can see they had a bird flying in this cathedral at one point it's like insane what you can do with it we just can't wait to see who else does what with it that's all we're saying yes right gump hell yeah hell yeah brother maybe who do you blow fishing get who do you insects popping up remember insects would pop up and we would call them out. Oh, butterfly. There's a lizard. There was that one song that really

attracted the insects. There's butterflies everywhere. The ceiling was coming down at one point. That was pretty cool. Yeah, except we all saw that on social media and that was the one part we knew was going to happen. I didn't know. Zito just told me that thing cost $2.3

billion to build. It's a good good deal they're building more i think yeah they're more spheres it's not the first one what i believe there is one in dubai i want to say some other country yeah this isn't the first sphere it's the biggest one uh no oh or maybe it is i don't know the games on every scene only perform at the spheres i don't know. Did you two only perform at the Spheres? I don't know. I think you two stopped performing years ago. And whoever we saw on that stage was just a bunch of people that looked like you two. All right. PK Subban will join us on the other side and talk a little hockey.

We appreciate the hell out of you for allowing us to do this for a living. And if you love U2 and Deep Cuts, I think that thing would be for you. Yeah. Deep Cuts. Deep Cuts. We're just not the right crew. No. So that's on us.

We would recommend the Sphere ten times out of ten, though. Yeah. And the DJ beforehand. Yeah. Deep cuts. Deep cuts. We're just not the right crew. No. So that's on us. We would recommend the Sphere ten times out of ten, though. And the DJ beforehand. Awesome. Awesome. Killed it. He was killing it. I think I said at one point, if this is what the show is, this is great. The dude was just playing the hits. Yeah, if they put graphics up with the DJ, it would have been... Three hours. I'm there the whole time.

Loving it. Bruce isn't sleeping. No. No. That's more about us than everybody else we'll be back on the other side with PK Saban talking hockey as we wrap up

this glorious Phenom Tuesday Patrick Mahomes on the program yeah pretty cool that's crazy be a friend tell a friend something nice

it might change your life take five hello beautiful people and welcome back to our humble abode the thunderdome on this phenom tuesday february 13th 2024 hour three of the program starts now sports are fantastic oh nice didn't get it that's all's all me. We already flipped to sports. Man, it's a sad day. It is. Should have texted you.

Sorry. My bad. It's on all of us. We're all kind of reeling. In mourning. Yeah. With a U in there. Yeah.

Like a long U. Yeah, because we are kind of mourning the end of a great football season. And so, Patrick Williams is the Chiefs champs again. That's right. Congrats to Michigan Wolverines winning the national championship. Congrats to Michigan. Congrats to football over here. Great year of football.

Record-breaking. Historic. Historic. Historic year. And now combines in a couple weeks, AJ. The NBA is happening. All-star game this weekend. That's going to be fun here in Indianapolis.

Stars are coming out. Adam Silver will be live in the Thunderdome tomorrow. Excited to learn about that whole thing. The Talks Table is here at Boston Corner. And instead of Tash, we're at Darius J. Butler. Here we go. One half of the hammer. Cowboys turn digs is here.

The other half of the hammer. Cowboys bubblegum pina is here. half of the hammer. Don Cowboys bubble. Gumpino is here. Good day, everybody. I said, good day. I say good day. And joining us from Canada appears. Whoa. Is the man who's going to educate us on everything that's happening around the NHL, including some controversy.

Ooh. Somebody caught a cross check right to the mouth. including some controversy. Ooh. Somebody caught a cross-check right to the mouth. Ladies and gentlemen, this man played in the NHL for... 14 years. Stod, friend of the program, P.K. Saban. Yeah, P.K.!

Yes. All right, here we go. Whoa. What's up, boys? We getting back into the league, huh? We taking care of the body? Yeah, what's going on? It's taking care of the body? Yeah, what's going on? It's taking care of the body.

Today's just the maintenance day. Box today. Worked out this morning. I always finish off my work day with a nice Epsom salt bath. So this is where I'm at right now. Okay, yeah, it appears. You definitely are. You definitely are.

I got some candles. I got some candles lit, too. I got a couple candles in here. It's just a decompression. Okay. Decompression. It's hot Epsom salt, obviously, right? You wouldn't I got a couple candles in here. It's just a decompression. Okay. Decompression. It's hot Epsom salt, obviously, right? You wouldn't put Epsom salt in a cold tub.

Nope. It would be hot. It's warm. You know, with all the, you know, my body being banged up from playing and all, it's better warm. I always find the warm therapy helps my body out a lot, especially the hips. I got to keep the hips loose now, Pat. Yeah, of course.

Especially with life, what you're doing now, got to keep the hips. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So it's not like Kevin Hart, you know, because it's hot, AJ. You said it was a hot tub, clearly, AJ. Cold tub show, you're right.

Yeah, that's my bad. Yeah, it's hot as balls. It's not cold as balls. Yeah, there's some green alcohol in there, too. What, in the... Oh, in the hot tub. Green? Green alcohol.

Really? Green or green? Green alcohol. Really? Green or green? Green. I'm not getting paid for this, so I don't know. I'm not getting paid for this, but this is the Epsom salt. My sister. And then I got, look at this. I got my gallon of aminos here.

Like, I'm dialed in, Pat. Holy hell. Dialed right in. Is this live? You do this every, you're like a Brecca guy? Every day. Every day, I'm, 6 a.m. I'm in the gym.

I lift. I either walk on the treadmill for an hour, four and a half miles. I box. And then I get a massage. And then it's Epsom salt bath. Then I get everything else done. You get a massage every day of your life? Every day.

Six days a week. Yep. That's awesome. That's awesome. Good for you. Crazy. You want to talk about taking care of the body come see me yeah and the mentos and the chickens hey congratulations six days a week getting a massage incredible that is same person same masseuse same masseuse

i don't change actually i had a big transition because uh was a name. She was my massage therapist my last three years when I played. Had her for four years. She retired at 50. God bless her. She was amazing. She was like a life coach, massage therapist, all in one. She was awesome. So I ended up getting a new one.

She's great, too. So I see her every day. She's awesome, takes care of me, and I'm good to go. Hey, hell of a run by Yoshi. Yoshi. Get a missy every day. She's awesome. Takes care of me. I'm good to go. Hey, hell of a run by Yoshi. Yoshi. Yoshi had a hell of a run. Seriously. The game's going to miss her. And congrats

to the new massage therapist getting work six days a week from one person. That's phenomenal. PK, you getting back on the ice? Is that the thought or is this just for life? Absolutely not. Not getting back on the ice. I've been on the ice twice since I retired, and it was for the All-Star game. I've only put my skates on. I haven't even put my gear on. A part of that is because the first alumni game that I play in, I want to make sure that I can

talk as much trash to everybody that I'm playing against to let them know that this is the first time I put my gear on, and I'll be exposing everybody on the ice. Is there a period of time, like you've got to do a couple years before you're allowed to play an alumni game, or can you go right into it? Well, I don't know the rules, obviously. I'm just learning of the alumni game as

we have this conversation. Are you in better shape now than you were when you were playing? Obviously, yes, right? Different shape. Different shape. I'm definitely stronger, I think. You know, just hockey, you've got to be a leader, right? It's 82 games. As much as you've got to be strong and explosive, you've got to be

able to last, right? Six days a week. This guy's getting six days a week. How long? An hour long? We do 90 minutes? So, 90 minutes. 90 minutes for my tissue. My tissue is way too dense. I need 90 minutes. If I don't soak, if I don't get the Epsom salt back,

there's no way anybody's getting into my tissue. Not going to happen. Of course, you've got to keep those things pliable. You've got to keep that tissue pliable. Man, I have so many questions about how we got to this point, but let's talk about hockey because hockey is awesome. Hockey has afforded you the opportunity to get a massage six days a week

as a retired player. You're living good. You deserve it all. PK, how about the cross-check to the mouth after a clapper on an empty net? Now, Reeves came out and obviously said these younger generations play in a different sport, pretty much, than what hockey actually is. This was just a guaranteed reaction from somebody

if it was to take place, and why did that other guy either do it or not expect it? What the hell's going on with hockey? Well, I'm so happy you asked me this because I want to get right into it, and here's what I think. First and foremost, let's talk about the player.

So to what Ryan Reeves said, I have to agree with it to a certain extent that the game has changed. The culture has changed. If I would have done that my first year in the league, oh my goodness, against Boston or something like that, guys would have probably been over the bench. Guys would have jumped the bench. I would have been jumped for sure. There would have been purple drink all over the ice it wouldn't have been good like honestly they wouldn't have been good at all for this kid it's a different

game now nobody does that but if you're morgan riley this is what i'm going to say first and foremost if you don't want anybody doing anything like that it's the same thing that i've said about the world juniors, when everybody was giving it to Team USA about their celebrating. If you don't want guys to celebrate, you don't want guys to get in your kitchen and stir the pot. Well, you're the Toronto Maple Leafs. You guys got how many guys make it 12 million bucks a year?

You guys are supposed to be a cup contending team. Don't let Ottawa tuck you in when you're fighting for your playoff spot. You're in a wild card race right now. Don't let Ottawa tuck you in. And Ottawa is letting you know it's the Battle of Ontario. Yeah, there's no respect on the ice. So I'm not surprised by what happened. I actually love that he took the opportunity to get in their kitchens.

For Morgan Reilly, I love the reaction. You've got to react. But if you cross-check somebody in the head, you're getting suspended. Like, you can't do that in today's game. So, to me, I'm actually on both sides of it. I love what Ottawa did to get in the kitchens. I love the response from Toronto.

You just can't cross-check somebody in the head. Just grab them, drop your gloves, beat the piss out of them, and then let it be. You know what I mean? That's what it should be. Yeah, there's different levels to punishment, I guess, on the piss out of them, and then let it be. You know what I mean? That's what it should be. Yeah, there's different levels to punishment, I guess, on the ice from the boys, especially for over the years.

Oh, I would have jumped him for sure, though. He would have been jumped for sure. Okay, all right. So P.K. said, love that you had the moxie to do it, okay? And if you don't want us dancing, don't let us in the end zone. That is literally a big time. Oh, what would have made it even better is if the kid would have stuck his tongue out at Morgan Bradley as he skated by him just to double down on it and let him know he's getting in his kitchen.

Because think about it. You wind up and take a slap shot on an empty net. Like, obviously, he's not scared of anybody on that team. Like, that's what Chara, Lucci, Gregory Campbell, John Thornton, Zdeno Chara, Johnny Boyd, McQuaid. Like, you got these killers. Nathan Horton, you know, Mark Reckie at the top. Like, Jerome McGinley.

Like, all those guys are on the same team. Dude, one of those guys is getting to me, and if one of them doesn't get to me, they're probably sharing the meat because they all want to pound the flesh for that. No one's standing for that. But I loved it. I loved the fact. I was so pumped. Not that drink.

So pumped. Share the meat. Share the flesh. Share the flesh. So, in all seriousness, Toronto's got to respond there. But I think that that is a sign of the respect of what players are giving the Toronto Maple Leafs right now. Like the Toronto Maple Leafs got to earn more respect than that, I think,

with how they play the game. Because that isn't so much about whether you have skill or talent or how good you are. It's about respecting your opponent and the way that you play. And I think that's the game within the game. Unfortunately, I didn't watch that game, but I know battles. I know rivalry games and playing for Montreal, Ottawa, in that Toronto bubble, those are heated rivalries.

So this is all expected. And if you don't expect that, then that's the type of response that you're going to get. You've got to expect that people are going to try to get in your kitchen. Yeah, we love everybody that's traveling in and out of the kitchen. We like everybody trying to take a trip in there. We like to answer. We like to respond. But you don't want them dancing. Don't let them score.

Go ahead, AJ. PK, wouldn't you have been more worried if Toronto did not respond? I know the cross check to the head, that's not, you don't want to do that. But if Toronto just let them go, let them go on their way and finish the game, that would be a bigger worry, wouldn't it? Well, if you want to talk about worry, if I'm a Toronto Maple Leafs fan, I'd just be worried about seeing that Florida Panthers team again

because I'm going to tell you, if you guys think that's crazy, what's going to happen when you play Florida in the playoffs is going to be 10 times worse than that. Those guys are pulling you into the alleyways. They're going to make it a dog fight. And by the way, you don't think they got skilled.

They got a 39 goal scorer in Sam Reinhardt on that team. They got the Chuck. They got for swaggy part of her. Who could put the puck in the net? That's what I'm talking about. So yes, Toronto's got to respond, but they've got to get used to this

happening. This is going to happen more. It ain't going away. You can expect Ryan Reeves to go there and set the tone, but there's got to be team toughness too. Guys got to have each other's facts. And I think if you're a Leafs fan, there's a bright spot to that. To see Morgan Riley get fired up, it's okay. You lose him for

a game, but that should galvanize their group to rally around this and say, hey, boys, we're not going to take this disrespect. We're going to run up the score on teams. We're going to let them know that they can't disrespect us, whether we're in our guard or not. Yeah, we're going to start sharing the meat.

Oh, yeah. 50-50. If that was me, if I was Morgan Riley, my gloves would have been off. In my time, you've got to drop your gloves there. I would have dropped my gloves and grabbed them. I'm a different player

than Morgan. I'm not saying that he wouldn't drop his gloves. I'm just saying I would have, but guaranteed next game, and I can say this now, I'm not saying that he wouldn't drop his gloves. I'm just saying I would have, but guaranteed next game, and I can say this now, I'm not playing, that kid, if he ever came down my side the next game, he'd be getting a two-hander. That kid would never be able to come down my side,

probably for the rest of his career. I'd be giving it to him. For the rest of his career. I love everything about him. I hold grudges on that. I don't take well to disrespect. That's kind of hockey. That's what I think the history of hockey is. That's why it's such a big deal. I don't take well the disrespect. That's kind of hockey. That's what I think the history of hockey is. That's why it's such a big deal. Speaking of hot hockey, E-But's got a question for you. Man, Panthers don't take much disrespect.

They just beat the shit out of the Avalanche. I know we got the Pens tomorrow, actually. But are they the league's hottest team right now? Can I expect another title run? I know we fell short last year, but can we expect another title run? Oh, man. You're talking about Florida, right? Oh, yeah. Florida. Florida. I mean, the Devils. OK, here's what I'll say about the East.

Toronto's got to figure it out. And I think that they will. They got 30 games. There's lots of time left. They're sitting around. I think it's 60 points. They're kind of in a dogfight. They need to get out of that dogfight for the wild card race. Right now, you've got Philly, who's ahead of them, and Philly's playing a better team game right now than Toronto. So is

Carolina. So is the team ahead of them. So Toronto's got to figure that out. Philly? What? No. Philly? Why? Philly? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I can't win. Philadelphia? Why?

No way. Hold on. Listen very carefully. Bronick back? Listen very carefully what I just said. John DeClaire. John Tortorella probably going to be coach of the year or up for it. No.

Has these guys – are you nuts? Torto? If these guys make the – 100%. 100% he's in that conversation. Anybody who says that, I won't even sit down at a table with you and discuss hockey because you don't know what you're talking about. What this guy has done with that group in terms of their skill, talent, and youth is comparable to what Rick Tockett's doing in Vancouver

with a lot more talent, a lot more experience, all of that stuff. So, yes, John Tortorella's in that conversation. And Philly, as much as they go through adversity, they've had a number of things happen with their team. For John Tortorella to keep them on track and keep them focused and their bounce back, he's getting great goaltending now. He's getting it out of everyone. Penalty kill, goaltending.

Guys are stepping up, scoring big goals. I like the way their team is playing, and I think they're playing a better team game than Toronto. I said at the start of the year, Toronto has relied heavily on their big guns, and those guys have showed up for them. Austin Matthews getting paid $50 million a year. Well, guess what? He's earned that money because every time they need a goal,

Poppy shows up and he answers the bell. The big guy's answering. But as a team, I like Philly's team game and I don't see them slowing down any soon. So I see Florida definitely coming out of the... I would pick them coming out of the East right now.

Can New York beat them? Yes. Can Toronto beat them? I don't think Toronto's ready to handle those Panthers yet. Are the Devils in that conversation? Yes, but when it comes to the lineup experience, I think Florida's coming out of the How's Gritty? That's sleazy

Gritty. Is he still a scumbag? He is? Alright, didn't know. Didn't know what was going on. Flyers are good at hockey, I just learned. Wow. What is this, 1970? Holy hell, Flyers are good at hockey? I just learned. Wow. What is this, 1970? Holy hell. Flyers are good at hockey? Congress? They're tough. They got some toughness on that team, too. They ain't soft.

You know sports this style, man. It's hand-to-hand combat. You gotta lay it on the line. He's gotta move it in the right direction. It's a dogfight. The NHL right now has so much parity. It's a dogfight in both conferences. The wild card race. These next 30

games are going to be exciting. Every game matters. Let's go, Pence. Tongue Diggs has a question for you, PK. I'm not sure if you saw. We went to Vegas and we, well, mostly Ty, ended the Oilers' winning streak. I don't know if you saw that or not.

You're welcome to everyone who didn't want that streak to be broken. Are the Oilers winning streak. I don't know if you saw that or not. You're welcome. Yep, you're welcome to everyone who didn't want that streak to be broken. Are the Oilers, are they the favorite out there? Is Vegas, the reigning cup champs, the favorite out there? How do we feel about the West? Okay, well, let's talk about that game. Jack Eichel didn't play.

William Carrier didn't play. Theodore did not play. So what's the significance of those three players well William Carrier might be their best player in their bottom six okay I'll debate that but he's been there a long time he's got experience plays a heavy game Jack Eichel

is their best forward Theodore is their best defenseman so they're missing three of their top players from that Stanley Cup run, right? And they go and they handle business against a team that won 16 straight games with the best player in the world playing at his best, who's opened up the game, scoring a goal.

And I can't find fault with Edmonton's game. I thought they played great from their defense out. I even said it. Bouchard. Yeah, but it was Stoner and Ty Schmidt. Stoner and Ty. There's no way. I mean, Ty broke the siren. Think about that.

He was on his Zamboni. For an entire issue. He had a sword. Yeah. That night beheaded another guy. I saw you guys. I saw that. I saw it on the horn. How bad did you want to do the horn, though, Pat?

How come you didn't get it on? Well, it turns out I actually, we told them I was doing it. And then, actually, Ty's going to be doing it. I'm a Pence fan. You can't see me. I had the jacket on. They were very hospitable. They were very, very nice.

Very, very kind. I appreciate the Golden Knights team a lot more than I appreciate the Pittsburgh Penguins team. That is a matter of fact. If I became a fan within the last couple years, I would be a Golden Knights fan. But I grew up a Penguins fan, so there's no way in hell you're going to catch me. No way.

Ty, though, has been a fan of the Golden Knights since the day the Knights were announced. So he might be their oldest fan, longest fan. First time in the barn, he was certainly going to, you know, crank that thing. And he also got to ride the Zamboni. Dude, he got to ride the Zamboni? Yes, he did. Oh, look at the hat top.

Unbelievable. Hold on, hold on. Yep, yep, yep. Three, four, five, six, seven, eight, ten of them things. That's a lot of piss pumps. Ten of them. You've been out there for 45 minutes. Vegas, Vancouver, the only team.

Colorado, Dallas is still there. Vancouver, it's going to be a lot more difficult in the Western Conference for Vegas, I think, this year than it was last year. But for them to beat Edmonton and handle Edmonton missing those three guys, you've got to think that you've still got to beat them. And the X factor for me, Aiden Hill. Aiden Hill, absolutely phenomenal in that game. And if he plays that way in the playoffs, the only goaltender that I can – listen, that's a Demco's grade, but he's never won a dope. Phenomenal in that game. And if he plays that way in the playoffs, the only goaltender that I can –

listen, that's a Demco's grade, but he's never won a cup. You know, I look at Edmonton's situation and goal. It's not the same as Aiden Hill. Even Colorado, I like your idea. He's still got to prove himself. Aiden Hill's won and has proven himself, and he's playing arguably better this year than he did last year. So I still think Vegas has seemed to be...

Stood on his head against Edmonton. He was kicking them. He was what? He was kicking them. Snapping the pads up. He was kicking them. He was down in the water. He was down in the water.

It's so steamy. It's unbelievable in the water. So warm in there. You've been glistening the entire time. I looked at Nick sent me standings here for the East. Good. The Penguins suck. Your pens are in one a little bit. Your pens are in one a little bit.

We have to win every game. It's over. It's over. They have a winning record. it's over they have to win every game it's over but 16 it's over it's over they have a winning record 23 19 it's over it's not fair i don't want to hear anybody mention sydney crosby's name uh you know i just it's it sucks because i really think that as a league we need to see pittsburgh in there i want to see sid in the playoffs every year um he's just that good but it just doesn't look like it's going to happen. Like, Washington,

you got to watch out for Washington. The Islanders are moving. New Jersey just gets Jack Hughes back. Took him two games. You know, he scored his last 16. He's got a back-to-back game tonight. There's just too many teams that are competitive in front of Edmonton right now. So what happens now?

What happens now? The Penguins suck. Blow it up. Then, yeah, it's over. Trade Crosby to Boston. No. No. Trade him to Boston. It's over.

Is that what happens? It depends. It's over? It's done. No. It's Sidney Crosby over. Oh, no. Is that what it is?

It's Sidney Crosby over? It's whatever Crosby wants to do. What do you mean? If Sid wants them to blow it up and trade him, and he comes out and says that they will do that. If he wants to stick around for a rebuild, they will do that. If he wants to keep going and they want to scratch and claw and throw everything they can, every future asset,

every first-round pick, to try and stay alive, they'll do that. It's all up to Sid. It's Mario Lemieux over. Yeah. Good run, Sid. Yammer, y'all go. Hockey town over. Ronnie France over. Sidney Crosby. You know, it sucks. It sucks Yago. Hockey town over. Ronnie France over.

Sidney Crowe over. You know, it sucks. It sucks for Sid because I think Sid could go to another team, obviously, and win a cup. I don't think he will. And I don't know that. I've never asked him. This is not a quote from Sid.

But I just don't know. I don't think that he will go somewhere else and play. I really believe that he'll probably want to stay in Pittsburgh and figure it out there. They do have still some pieces there. I really thought they were going to make a push this year. I'm not really too sure why they're in the situation that they're in. But it's too bad.

Tristan Jari. That's exactly why. What's that? Tristan Jari. He was standing on his head earlier. Tristan Jari. That's exactly why. What's that? Tristan Jari. He was standing on his head earlier. Tristan Jari. I mean, the guy's just not it. As long as he's been in the goal.

Hey, if it makes you guys feel better, we might be watching some hockey in Long Island this year. I think the Islanders could make a fight off. Why would that make you feel better? Who cares? It makes me feel better. Congrats to the Borelli family. Okay, I'm happy for him.

I'm happy for the people on Long Island. Oh, yeah, I forgot. Patrick Waugh is the coach there now. Yes. I do hope to have success. You were talking about how good of a player Patrick Waugh was, weren't you, Derek? Slapper.

He's a goalie. Slapper? What about his wrist? He kicks him up. He's a goalie. Slapper? What about him? He kicks him up. Are you serious? I got three goalies. I got three goalies. I got three goalies.

Dominic Hachik. Great Buffalo Sabre. Patrick Watt. Marty Brodeur. Those are the three for me. Tim Thomas. Andy the Eagle. Bell Ford.

Tim Thomas. I'm not putting Tim Thomas. Tommy Barrasso. And Bell Ford. I am so sick of leaving Tom Barrasso's name off of that list. I can't take it. Tommy Barrasso. Two cups in Pittsburgh, right?

Yeah. Allegedly, nobody really enjoyed. Allegedly, he was not the nicest guy. But, I mean, he, guy can stop a puck. He's an oddball. Guys, guys, you want a puck stop? You got to win one game. I want Dominic Kosciuk in the net.

Boom. Period. End of story. What about Jim Craig? He's our Grand Fear. Grand Fear. Grand Fear. I mean, how do you not mention Grant Fuehrer's name in that conversation?

Like, it's almost insulting of me not even to mention his name in the top three. It's probably Grant's serious. I watched Hoshik play. Dominic Hoshik is the guy I'm calling. Very athletic, Hoshik. Miracle on ice, Jim Craig. What are we talking about here? He can't play with Cary Price.

It's Marty, bro. It's Marty Carey Price. Hold on, guys. It's Tommy Barrasso. I'm sick of the convo. Carey Price. Mark Mongey-Flurry in his prime. Math, sure. Jonathan Quick. Carey Price is there. Carey Price is in that conversation 100%. I mean, I did that, but I picked three goaltenders

that have Stanley Cups, too. You know what I mean? I mean, as much as Pricey loves me, if he says I'm the best defenseman ever, I think some people are going to look at him and say, dude, like you got other defensemen here who got crazy points, Aiden Norris and Stanley cups. Like you got to put those guys first. You got to stop smoking that Epsom salt.

Yeah. It's bullshit. People are starting to do that. Oh, this is the stuff I'm using. So if you don't like what I'm saying, don't use it. that. Oh, this is the stuff I'm using. So if you don't like what I'm saying, don't use it.

Just to kind of put a whole bow on this entire thing. Yeah. You're still in that hot tub right now. Dude, I go 45 minutes, 45 minute minimum. 90 minute massage. Minimum. 45 minute hot tub. That's two hours and 15 minutes.

What did you do when you were playing? What did you do on the road? Yeah. Oh, I did this when I was playing, too. Dude, that's what people don't understand. Everybody thinks being a pro athlete is like you show up in a nice suit, you drink a coffee, you jump out there, and you play. Like, you've got to get your body prepared,

especially the way that I played. I wanted to kill everybody that came down my side, so I put my body on the line. You've got to manage it. Epsom salt bath, massage, activation, deep core breathing, acupuncture, STEM, ART, all of that stuff, man. Come on, man. TRT.

Yeah. All right. TRT. Can we do some of the breathing right now? Can we do some of the breathing right now? What are we doing? You got to lead us. You got to lead us.

Close your diaphragm. Close it. You got to us. Close your diaphragm. Close it. You gotta close it. Tuck it. And let that balloon expand. Now, release it all. I want your stomach to touch your spine when you release it. Pull that stomach all the way in.

Focus, AJ. I just saw the breathing. My nose or my mouth? In through your nose. One more time. It's hard to breathe through my nose or out of my mouth? In through your nose one more time It's hard to breathe through my nose I need one of those breathe right strips Now let it out We're doing box breathing?

Here's for the guys I'm going to say this Because I know I'm on national television You're not You've got to pull your buddies up as you do this. If you know what I mean, pull them up. Your balls. Right?

Pull them up, yeah. Pull your. How? Eagle. You don't have to pull your meat up, but your two veg. Your two veg, pull those up. Just like Drake. He was spinning it.

He wasn't pulling it up. Don't be flopping that thing. I'll let it hang. I'll let it hang. Oh. Just like Drake. He was spinning it. Don't be flopping that thing. Now let it hang. Let it hang. Oh, hang. There it is. There you go, boys. All right.

That was good. First time we've ever been in partnership. How much more time have you gotten there? I got now, I got five more minutes. Remember, I got in here, I got in here about 2.15, so I got about four minutes. PK, you're one-on-one, huh, pal? One-on-one, dude. I'm all in. I'm just dialed in to what I got to do.

So I love coming on this show. Like, honestly, how does it feel, though? Like, you got your best show on TV right now for sports. You get to wear whatever you want, talk about whatever you want. You're doing it with your buddies. Like, what a treat. Seriously. We're very lucky.

I mean, we're not the best and all that stuff, but we have a good time every day. Did not expect to be speaking to a naked P.K. Subbanu. I mean, that's something we know. Well, you know what, Pat? Honestly, I pushed the envelope a little bit, and I've got to be honest. I've never met you in person, so I can't say that we're friends, but I'm naked in an Epsom salt bath right now. This is the closest

we've ever been, so I'd like to consider you at least acquaintance. You know, I'd like to at least be like, yeah, you know, that's an acquaintance of mine. Yeah, I mean, if we're not friends at this point, you know, I don't know what's next. You know? Might have to do this in the same room together. You ever get in there with other people? Anyone else ever come in there with you?

You know what, guys? It's rarely ever gridlock in this town There's been a few times I've had a couple visitors But I'm usually in the clear You know what I mean? There's definitely never been any other dude To hear with me I can say that flat out

I like my own space Let's not go. We don't need to get any less. It's just not my thing. If somebody has two hours and 15 minutes to spend every single day getting a massage

and then a hard hug. After a workout and an hour on the treadmill. PK, you might be peak male for the next, what, 60 years. There's nobody committing their life to their body like you are. I want to let you know that. Why wouldn't you? If you retired at 33 years old, why

wouldn't you want to be in the best shape of your life at 70? That's my goal, to be in the best shape of my life at 70. Period. End of story. Why not? We could do the math. Six days a week So that's 152 minus 365 Is what?

313 times 37 Make it 40 To make an even number 313 times 40 is 12,000 Or is it 120,000? No it's got to be 12,000 12,000? Or is it 120,000? Is it 120? No, it's got to be 12,000. 12,000.

12,520. 12,000. Sundays are up. Sundays up. Yeah. By the time you're 70, you're going to be through 12,520 massages. Atta baby. You better be in the best shape.

We're going to need you. Still working out with the Rock? No, you know what? DJ, you know what? I haven't texted him, to be honest with you i don't even know if he has the same number and used to have his number you know with people like the rock is so big i have such an appreciation for him read his book i was a big fan like i just try to leave people the hell alone you know what i mean i got a chance to do it with him once the guy's

busy he's got a family the last thing he's thinking about is sculpting his guns with me. You know what I mean? He's not thinking about that. I think he could potentially learn from you with your daily routine. You know, they talk about, like, Mark Wahlberg's daily routine. PK, you were getting after it with Rock. I mean, he looked at your back right there, and he was like, this is what we need to do.

Yeah, his bicep. His bicep is about the width of my back. So, you know. Hair looks great. How long ago is this? This was a couple years ago, actually. This would have been, I think it was maybe 2016,

2017. It's almost a decade ago now, PK, but you haven't aged a single bit. You know why? Because that deep breathing. Darker the berry sweet of the juice, that's what Tupac's in. Damn right. So I don't know what that means.

I'll let our viewers and everybody figure that out. Well, I think what it means is I'm aging like a raisin, and I think that is kind of how it goes. Oscar looks like he's 21 years old. Absurd. Oscar looked like he was 21. He also got married on Sunday. Did you see that?

Unbelievable performance. Unbelievable performance. like he was 21. He also got married on Sunday. Unbelievable performance. Unbelievable performance. I watched that show. And I'm a big Usher guy. Nice and slow. It's 7 o'clock on the dot. I'm in my dot, dot. Who's in the streets? I got a

real pretty, pretty little bank net waiting for me. That's it on me. Yeah, oh yeah. That's it to me. I was all in on Usher and the performance. We got to give him props.

This guy, during my time of growing up, and I knew about him. I had older sisters that listened to him. I shared a bathroom with my sisters until I was 16, so I know all the songs. I love Usher. I just think he's one of the most talented artists ever. But I love the show. I think people are being one of the most talented artists ever. But I love the show. I think people are being haters. I thought it was a great show. Awesome.

People hate on everything these days. I don't know how you can hate on this man, though. Just wrapped up a 45-minute warm Epsom salt bath, which followed a 90-minute massage, which followed boxing, cardio, and a lift. Now he's starting his day. Ladies and gentlemen, P.K. Subban. You're the man.

P.K. How you doing, P.K.? How you doing, P.K.? He's awesome. What a schedule. Brings it every time. That's wild. He does bring it every time.

Every single time I've seen him on TV, he brings it. You know why? He's getting a massage every day. Yeah. His body's feeling great. 90 minutes or two. 90 minutes. It's tough to sit still that long sometimes.

Well, definitely. My wife and I will get couples massages, get two, three a year maybe. Every time I do it, I'm like, oh, this is a vacation. The best. This is meditation. This is relaxing. He's doing that every single day of his life. There's no wonder PK is happy.

Maybe that's the answer. Maybe that's what we should all be doing. I couldn't even... There's no wonder PK is happy. Maybe that's the answer. Maybe that's what we should all be doing. I don't ever get massages. I always think about it. It'd feel great to get a massage, and then I just never do it. Yeah, because you can't... How do you even go about it? Well, you've got to book six a week for the next 20 years to get that on the books,

I think. I think that's the only way it can work. And he has a masseuse. It's not our fault massagers were out for a little, and it feels like they're all the way back. Maybe we do think about getting our bodies and tip-top shoes. I think we all know why they were out, okay, gentlemen? I don't have to

bring that up. Massage therapists have been a weapon for professional athletes. There was never a time where they were out. I mean, they were out for one person. They were out because of one person. Yeah, well, I'm just saying, I don't think anybody was screaming, hey, I'm going to see my massage therapist for the sixth time this week. Okay? And I think that was the first time I've ever experienced that with PK.

And now here we are where we could possibly jump into that pool. What do you want, just set up in a room? Yeah, we don't have to build a kitchen. We don't know how we can't. We can't do that. We can't do what we were going to do. So maybe we don't have to build a kitchen. We don't know how. We can't do that. We can't do what we were going to do. So maybe we don't have to set up a room. Do you remember we did a full chef search?

All right, we're going to pay $100,000 to a chef. All you got to do is just obviously we need breakfast, and then we need post-show snack, and then you're good. That's the job. Don't need you on camera. Don't need a personality. Just need you to be able to fit in with the group and be able to cook well. So pumped.

I was so excited. So many applicants. We did it. We're going to have able to fit in with the group and be able to cook well. So pumped. I was so excited. So many applicants. We did it. We're going to have a fucking chef in here. Yeah. Then we learned so many different codes, and we cannot build a kitchen in here. No, not allowed. In theory, great idea.

Great idea. Great idea. I just said, well, if I can turn one of the rooms into a kitchen, what do we need? We'll get the chef, and then the chef will tell us everything they need. Then we'll make the actual kitchen for the chef. That's a double win. They're like, well, you can't actually. No, not even allowed here.

This, no, not allowed. Couldn't you do it? Just don't pull a permit and do it. Well, you'd have to stop it. Yeah, we got, the block is hot on this particular program. Oh, I forgot about old buddy when you, yeah. His mother's name. Yeah.

He's on the lookout. You're right. We'd have to get like a food truck, I think, operation outside, and then is that even worth it in the winter? I mean, it's a whole... So we would like to apologize to all the chefs that submitted. There was a lot of really good chefs. So many. And we were so excited for it.

That's one of those things where we don't think it through and then we make an announcement. No, usually you just say, hey, we want this. And typically it works out in this situation. Normally you put it out in the universe, it's like, alright, now we gotta do it. Like shows, people in here. in here That's gonna have to happen Who's putting that together

We'll cross that bridge when we get there We could put an addition on AJ you putting that together You wanna do more construction I never thought inviting people in here was a good idea Yeah but we created the place I don't wanna say I'm an architect or an engineer But I was part of building the place We created the place. I don't want to say I'm an architect or an engineer, but I was part of building the place.

We created the place so that we could, you know. Play basketball. One of the reasons. Definitely. Look at all the doors there. You know, look at all the doors. You can make this like a people come and you can make them like go see rooms and stuff while also having some privacy,

not worry about anything getting stolen out of here. I mean, there's a way to set this. It was designed to host. Yes. Never done it, though. No. Well, not yet. Chef, never going to be able to do it.

We'll see again. Massage therapist, though. I'm sure there will be a way for us to figure that out. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I think we can do that one. Got a barber once a week. Yeah.

JC's a weapon. He is. You've been getting your haircut from him again. Yeah, he cut my hair last week. Nice. All right. He's back. Connor and the barber had a little bit of a tiff when the barber decided to cut three inches off of Connor's mullet without telling him.

Almost back. Almost back to the length it was. Almost. Probably about a month to two, three months left. Connor wouldn't even look at this guy. He came in once a week. Connor wouldn't even look at him. That's not true. That's not true.

Every morning, what's up? Good morning. Good to see you. Again, don't have a qualm with the once a week. That's not true. That's not true. Every morning, what's up? Good morning. Good to see you. Again, don't have a qualm with the human at all. The decision, though. The decision I have a problem with. He's great. Great.

The best. Best face of the game. He's great. He really is. He is. Relationships with barbers are always interesting. Yeah. It's different, obviously, because he comes here.

But when you ever go to a barbershop and you've been using one for a while and then you finally maybe move on to another chair. You't do that that's awkward yeah well we're currently yeah you can yeah you can tony don't you have to not in my world yeah well you have to sometimes you have to we had a few barbers before we landed on old back porch barber oh yeah oh yeah he shows up plenty of that guy bill brought in was sweet everybody like showed up with two guns. It doesn't sound like you were serious. With the way he speaks, we don't know what's going on. I actually saw that guy at Slap. Yeah, he was there actually.

He said you should just come in with three guns on him to cut our hair. I'm like, all right, you're safe, dude, but are we? Let's get to a break. There was a guy in Orlando, I believe, when you were doing some of NXT. I was sitting outside for a while. Zeke got like a two-and-a-half-hour haircut one night from somebody. Who was that? Oh, I remember that guy.

Yeah. Was he a WWE barber? Oh, did you get that stuff? Yeah, there it is. Boom. Wow, good pull. Oh, the lineup. Yeah, he gave me the Carl's boozer.

All right, let's get to a break. We'll be back tomorrow. Big one tomorrow. Adam Silver is going to be right lineup. Yeah, he gave me the Carl's Boozer. The hell, dude. All right, let's get to a break. We'll be back tomorrow. Big one tomorrow. Adam Silver is going to be right here. Yeah, let's go. Right there. Right here. In stew.

I think he's tall. He is very tall. I think so, too. I'm excited to see his reactions just to us. Is he going to windmill? I think he's like 6'6". He could dunk in here. He had 26 a game in college.

That's how he became the commissioner of the NBA, obviously. That's what the internet always says about Adam Silver. They say this guy really knows ball. Yeah, he played a game in college. That's how he became the commissioner of the NBA, obviously. That's what the internet always says about Adam Silver. They say this guy really knows ball. Yeah, he played a guy for it. That's the reaction on the internet when last time Adam Silver came on. A lot of people say this guy doesn't even know basketball. It's like, I think he's done pretty good with the league. The way to beat up the commissioner is you have to beat the other commissioner in one-on-one.

You have to beat David Stern in one-on-one. You think Roger Goodell is going to challenge him one day? Just be like, I want to be the commissioner of the NFL and the NBA. Let's go ball. Check ball, bitch. I can't wait for that. Obviously, NBA All-Star is happening in Indianapolis this weekend. So I think as the week continues, we'll have some more NBA guys stopping by, potentially.

Let's go. I don't know. There's been a lot of, like, floated names. It'll be fun. Could potentially stop by. Then the Combine is in a few weeks in Indianapolis. This is the city to be in. Yeah.

Hell yeah. The next few weeks. Always be here. All right. We'll be back tomorrow with another program that is hopefully above average. We can't thank you enough

for allowing us to do this for a living. Great work today, AJ. Hey, boy, Hawker. Hey, great work, Gumpy. Good work, Gumpy. Way to go, Deepai. Full name for Ty. Great work, brother.

All right, everybody in the back, great work today. We'll be back tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Hey, team on me. Team on three. We'll be back tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me.

Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye!