The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1078 - We Love Love, Commissioner Wednesday, Adam Silver LIVE in studio, JJ Watt, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk

Episode Date: February 14, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AQ Shipley, AJ Hawk and the boys continue to recap the Chiefs Super Bowl victory, including Travis & Jason Kelce diving into Travis' sideline interaction with Andy Reid on the New Heights podcast, Steve Wilks being let go as the 49ers Defensive Coordinator, Patrick Mahomes saying the Chiefs are going for that three-peat, Chris Jones saying he isn't going anywhere, and more. In the first hour, Adam Silver joins us LIVE in studio for a fascinating conversation about the All Star game in Indianapolis this weekend & it's return to the East vs. West format, streaming platforms' role in the upcoming TV rights negotiations, potential expansion, the new rules around load management, and more. In the second hour, JJ Watt jumps on the progrum to cap off an ELECTRIC season of appearances. JJ, Pat and the boys recap him covering the Super Bowl with CBS & his hair taking the internet by storm, why pass rushers don't get holding calls in the playoffs, and the mind-boggling snub of TJ Watt for DPOY. In the third hour, we take it home with Super Bowl & Season Recap editions of In The Trenches & Everything DB. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. **Today's show was recorded before learning the full details of the tragic shooting that took place at the end of the Chiefs Super Bowl Parade** Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this we love love Commissioner Wednesday, February 14, 2024. This program starts now. Sports! Our beautiful, obviously, and happy Valentine's Day to everybody out there. We hope you get a chance to spend a little time with those who you love and let them know that you love them. Because although there is 365 days in a year, 366 in a leap year. Sure.

Or is it 364? It's like 365 and a half. I don't know how it works. Whatever it is, there's one day that is dedicated to love. Now, was it made up by a card company trying to make more money? Maybe. Is it a big fugaze?

Potentially. But in the spirit of the day, why not just tell the person you love that you love them? Because we have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow. We have no idea what's going to happen later today. So letting a little love out is a good thing, especially on this glorious We Love Love Commissioner Wednesday

because guess what, ladies and gentlemen? The commissioner of the NBA, Adam Silver, will be sitting in that chair right there in about anywhere between 15 to 30 minutes. Obviously, he's in the great city of Indianapolis, Indiana, because the All-Star break is happening in the Hoosier City. Now, we are very lucky to play host. The Celebrity All-Star game is on Friday night.

I'll be a part of that doing a little commentary. Now, I'm balking season, as you have all seen. So right now is not the time for me to debut my jumper to the world because it is wet, it is silky, just not right now. In the future, it will be. So I'll be commentating as Stephen A. Smith and Shannon Sharp will be coaching two teams of super celebs playing basketball in Lucas Oil Stadium on Friday at 7.

Then, obviously, all of the skills challenges and the All-Star Game happen on Saturday, and I believe a lot of our crew will be in the house to watch. We are lucky to do that. J.J. Watt will join us. Fresh off a brand-new haircut. Yeah. We saw it. Everybody saw it.

Everyone. Everybody had takes on it. I'm excited to hear what his thoughts are on the reaction to his hair. Does he still have that hair? Is he still doing the sloppy spike? 1990, 2005. I'm a white dude with Calix hairstyle. I've had that hairstyle before.

It didn't look anywhere near as good as, like, people are failing to mention that for that particular haircut, his hair looked good. I agree. You know, like, in that particular hairstyle, what he was trying to go with the sloppy spike thing, he pulled it off perfect, almost too good. And everybody knows, like, what the hell is this on this guy's head? Well, we'll talk to him

about that and how he saw the Super Bowl going. Speaking of the Super Bowl, the parade has started now, I think, over in Kansas City. We got some thoughts. We'll have some videos. We have some comments. And obviously, let's look back on last year's Super Bowl parade and a parade's past. Should be a glorious

Valentine's Day. The Talks at Table is here at Boston Corner, sitting right next to at Darius J. Butler in place of Ty Schmidt, who's enjoying his life with his family. We will see him in a few weeks. We miss you, Ty. Miss you, Ty. Miss you, Ty. What do we got here, a little dolphin?

Yeah, a little dolphin. You know, after yesterday's debacle with the shirt, I figured, you know, let me just go. Debacle. It was your best shirt you've ever worn. Yeah, for sure. But, again, it stirred a lot more conversation than I would have thought. I figured I'd go right back to just a normal, regular animal.

Dolphin, one of the smartest mammals, if not the smartest on the planet. So that was kind of my decision-making here. One half of the hammer. God. Cowboy's tongue digs is shaking his head. No, you don't think the dolphin's the smartest mammal out there? Well, no, no. He said a normal, regular animal.

I mean, the dolphin, as far as IQ and what the dolphin does for us as a human race, is way up there. Navy seal, if you will. Bingo. Exactly. So I think the dolphin is a beautiful decision. I think it is a great choice.

I think you should continue to get better and not be embarrassed by it. Never. It felt like yesterday you were a little embarrassed by the fact that we all said, man, you've gotten better. Speaking of getting better, what a year for you, D that we all said, man, you've gotten better. Speaking of getting better, what a year for you, Darius J.

Hell of a year. Obviously, you were with us Monday through Wednesday. Then you hosted the NFL matchup show. Now that the season's over, how do you feel? I feel like you've really done a great job. I feel great, man. Great NFL season, obviously, but the college football season was awesome as well. College football playoffs, national championship. Got to see

Jim Harbaugh's maybe last game in college. Definitely Nick Saban's last game in college. We're on the field for that. Just an incredible run. Yeah, you did great, D. Butch. You should be proud of yourself. And the last in the trenches, obviously man who played 12 years in the NFL, won a Super Bowl as a coach and a player.

He's half himself. And I'm not just saying because he lost half his body weight. I'm saying that because this man is half great and half amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, A.Q. Shipley. Let's go, boys. A.Q., great year by you too, pal. I want to let you know you absolutely crushed it. I appreciate that.

What a year. I mean, the Super Bowl couldn't – I mean, you couldn't ask for a better game, right? I mean, that was unbelievable. It was kind of exactly how we thought it was going to go. 49ers look great. Mahomes has the ball at the end. That's the end. Okay, so we thought that's how it was going to go.

I'm excited to hear that. That is exactly how you saw the whole game going? I thought the 49ers were the better team. I think we all saw that. You picked the 49ers to win. I picked the 49ers to win. That was the biggest mind blender I had all week because at the end of the day,

I knew if Mahomes had the ball at the end, that's the way it was going to go. As soon as he gets a rock with an opportunity to tie it, we know he's going to tie it. And then in overtime to either tie it or win, we know he's going to show up. And then we got a chance to talk to him yesterday. This dude is awesome. Yeah. And we forget about the fact that he's been awesome literally

since the first day he started. He, in his first year, said in a thing about how we got a good group of young guys. He's excited to get back to work. We're going to try to build a dynasty out here. PR person told me, let's not be doing that. If we were to take a trip back in time, though, to last year's Super Bowl parade,

listen to what Patrick Mahomes says in his speech whenever he tells basically the entire Kansas City Chiefs fans, we'll see you in about 365 days from now. I just want to let y'all know. Looks sweet. That this is just the beginning. Okay. Sweet title. We is just the beginning. Okay. Sweet title.

We ain't done yet. So I'll make sure to hit y'all back next year, and I hope the crowd's the same. Appreciate y'all. Let's go, baby. We'll find out. Obviously, their parade is today. We got another speech coming from Patrick Mahomes.

Hell yeah. Great title. Great. And then, obviously, you got the snowboarding goggles, the ski goggles, because they've been spraying Coors Lattes and whatever else all day. This also happened last year. Look at the dance moves

from the boys at the Super Bowl parade from Matt Nagy, Tommy Tons. Look at Matt Nagy. You know who he is. He's so cool. He was head coach of the Bears for a lot of miserable years. Then he goes back to the Chiefs, wins the Super Bowl. Look at him living his best life. Tommy Townsend next to him was

flexing next to Taylor Swift just a few days ago. I mean, there is so much joy and happiness in drunk that happens at these Super Bowl parades. So much so that Andy Reid was actually talked about it. And here's a couple quotes from Andy Reid. Andy Reid said that was mentioned a couple times to the boys, so maybe we dial it back a little bit.

Maybe we calm down. It's great to have fun, but we need to be smart. And as they noted, last year's celebration included rookie defensive back Jalen Watson leaving the parade in a wheelchair. Nearly one million fans made it to the parade last year, according to KCUR. Hopefully that number is even bigger

this year. And Patrick Mahomes actually tweeted Jalen earlier in the week and said, hey, are you going to finish the parade this year? I think they are getting used to this celebration. They're getting used to this excitement. This year, obviously, Patrick Mahomes maybe doesn't just give away the Lombardi to a random fan on the street. Although, look how comfortable he is in a city that he is going to run

for the next 30, 40, 50 years. Think about whenever he's done and just gives the title. It starts walking off there. We're excited to see what takes place today. But those parades, Connor, you grew up, obviously, in the Boston area. You grew up with the New England Patriots. That story is for, like, kids and fathers. Forever.

And now, because Taylor Swift's involved, daughters and mothers. Those are real. Kansas City will remember today for the rest of their lives. And these are pillar moments for people's childhood. And I think we get caught up in how drunk everybody is. Of course. But I think kids and everybody needs to see, like, hey, when you work your ass off, like, that's when you are allowed to have fun.

Like, that's the purpose of all the work that these guys put in. That's the reason why you're working out at midnight on some nights when you're Patrick Mahomes and you've already cemented a legacy of being a Hall of Famer is for that moment. I think it's good for everybody. It's good for the city. Oh, yeah, unbelievable. I still remember the first Super Bowl parade I went to. My parents pulled me out of school and my brother.

First Super Bowl. First Super Bowl parade, of course. Just because they didn't think. But to your point, they didn't think there would be another one. My parents didn't. They've been Patriots fans for their whole entire lives. They were like, hey, we got to go because this might be it. And Bob Kraft dancing, young Bobby Kraft up there.

Like the whole entire like join together moment of the city. Like very rarely in most cities is everyone on the same page. Of course, when you're rooting for the team, that is one situation. But when everyone's partying and drinking out in the city of Boston, usually there are some things that could go wrong. Parades, it's the opposite. It is everyone is in the same exact mindset. Hey, we've cheered.

We've lived and died with this team for the last six months. Damn, you could even go back for the last year because we've been talking about this possibly being a reality in the future. So parades, I think, not only bring together the city, but it is cool to celebrate with the team. Obviously, you're not in the duck boats. You're not part of the actual journey that the team goes on. But when you are there and you can throw beers or shots

to some of your favorite players. We did it. One of my favorite things. You don't get to do that that often. Ever. And I was never someone that was risking throwing something and screwing it up. But, like, watching, like, Gronk or Brady or Edelman, you know, catch fireball shots, catch beers, house them, hold up signs. Like, after the Seattle Super Bowl where there's the whole Richard Sermon thing and all that beef was going on, like, Edelman holding up a sign, you know, talking shit about the Seahawks was one of, if not the highlight,

of all the praise. Yeah, let alone the fact that this year the Kansas City Chiefs were counted out a lot of the time. So this fan base was getting attacked this year as well. And also, even more so, whenever Taylor joins, we hate this group. So now they get a chance to just flood a city and celebrate everything that they are. Today should be absolute mayhem over there, I'm assuming, D-Budge.

Yeah, and it's the pinnacle of celebration because right after this, what, combine in a couple weeks for the, you know, head coaches, general manager, obviously the players, they're going to get right back to work in a few weeks, a few months, be right back at it, and then be locked in on that next one. Obviously, their goal is to have this three-peat. First time in history that's something that no one has ever done. It's so, so so so hard to give so for these guys to be here again back to back i mean just hats off to them yeah hats off

to them and have a hell of a day tone digs yeah i was lucky enough to go to two one my senior year of high school and then one junior year of college so like the perfect age i think to go to parades and connor said it perfectly like there is there is nothing more unifying like in the city than parade day. It's fun going out after the night of the Super Bowl, after that's won. But parade day, it is 8 a.m. until however long you can make it. It is one of the coolest things. Police are on board.

Police are on board. Obviously, the police horses are out later at the night. Sorry, excuse me. Yeah, getting choked up thinking about it. Police are on board. And I think a big part of it is cities have to pick the correct parade route. Like, I think that's huge. Because downtown Pittsburgh, like, they went by this, like,

it's like an eight-story parking garage, and everyone's hanging outside the parking garage. And, like, all the tighter the better. Like, the streets being lined is incredible. Like, those are unforgettable days. Just think about all the tighter the better like the streets being lined is incredible like those are unforgettable days. Just think about all the iconic moments too Madsen, Shaq dancing after the Lakers won it

Jason Kelsey cutting his promo like just obviously Brady throwing the line ball off the boat just all these different iconic moments from these parades. Yeah and I was about to say AQ you got a chance to be a part of an interesting parade because COVID so Tampa Bay seemed to be like the perfect place to have the COVID Super Bowl parade because you could just do it on boats.

Everybody stay away from everybody. And then Tom Brady gets escorted out afterwards. And it's like, oh, these boys had a good time. Seems like these boys had an absolute blast. What was it like to be a part of the Super Bowl parade down there? And at what point did anybody say, you know what, Tom Brady's going to need three people to walk his ass out of here like it's weekend at Bernie's? I mean, it's literally the best day of my entire life. Like literally, it was my wife. My wife was with me on board on the

boat. So I can say that. Well, it was pretty incredible. The kids are incredible. The kids are that day was incredible. I called you maybe the drunkest I've ever been. Yes. As as you noted before. Right. But at the end of the day, this is what people don't realize. You were obviously, as a fan, able to experience it at six times, right? Brady was able to experience it seven times as a player. For me, I worked 12 years. I gave everything I had. And 13 surgeries, five different teams, moved family here to there.

When you actually experience that confetti falling down, and then three days later go on a boat ride and watch millions of people watching this thing i mean just beers flowing drinks flowing and just the excitement and there were so many people down the levante david right gave everything to that city and really hadn't sniffed the playoffs hardly and he gets a championship like there's so many cool moments like that well congrats to the Chiefs. We're getting some video out of the Chiefs parade. I think Kansas City has shown up

for the... Look at it. Everybody's there for the... Never a dot. Never a dot. Is that an Italian or Mexican flag there? Green, white, red. Kansas City. Nope. You'll see

it. You'll see it. You'll see it. Right after the. Yeah, here it comes. Here it comes. Boom. Boom. I think that's.

I'm going to guess it's out. Usually you have to have the yellow, like the bird in the middle. Well, yeah, there's a chief symbol in the middle. It's not an official Italian ornament. It feels like it has a little. Anyways, look at them showing up. Look at them having a blast. You got kids with their families. Obviously, it's Valentine's Day.

Not a bad place to take a date. We got Valentine's Day figured out. What are we going to do? We're going to go get drunk with the rest of the city. How do you feel? It's 2024. Especially going into an election year. Oh my God. With so much trying to kind of divide humans and divide society,

cities are being divided, neighborhoods being divided. I feel this way, so I can't talk to somebody that feels this way. Whatever the reason, which is all bullshit, by the way, none of it matters. We're all in this thing together. For a city to be able to just come together downtown and have a blast, it's a beautiful thing. It is an absolutely beautiful thing.

And congrats to Kansas City getting to celebrate this probably 10 more times. And these ones become the best ones. You mentioned it. When you're the villain fan base, you want to make it that much more absurd so people are that much more pissed off that you won the Super Bowl.

Travis Kelsey talked a little bit on his New Heights podcast about a lot of things, both the after-party celebration, Jason Kelsey and the luchador mask. He broke that one down. He picked that up off the floor at one of the first after-parties. So he just put it on his head. That was not something that was planned. He said he was trying to stay out of the limelight.

This isn't my Super Bowl. This is the Chiefs' Super Bowl. And then he picked up that luchador mask and said, Who would I be if I didn't steal the show? And he certainly did. So they have a conversation about that. The big one, though, is Travis and Jason talking about Travis getting into Coach Reed's

face in the middle of the game because obviously the way that was phrased by some people is he attacked Andy Reed. This guy's got anger issues. This is a scumbag. Tom Brady came to his defense on the Let's Go podcast about how like, hey, these are passionate people and the biggest moment. I've had a few of these moments on the

sideline. Travis and Andy obviously had this. Here is Travis and Jason talking about the moment with Andy Reid on the sideline. Jason Kelsey is the greatest human on earth, potentially. The broadcast showed you having a heated exchange with Coach Reid. So heated. People are all over this. I mean, I get it.

You cross the line. I think we can both agree on that. I can't get that fired up to the point where I'm bumping Coach and it's getting him off balance and stuff. I mean, let's be honest. The yelling in his face, too. I think there's better ways to handle this. I love Coach Reed. Coach Reed knows how much I'd love to play for him.

I'm not playing for anybody else but Big Red. If he calls it quits this year, I'm out there with him, man. He ain't calling it quits. Come on now. He's not. I immediately wish I had took it back. Coach Reed actually came right up to me after that, he just let him know hey man i love your passion i got cameras on me all over the place man he's letting you know not to be like that just fired

me up even more to go out there and get a victory for him man big red sorry if i uh caught you with that cheap shot baby but damn i love winning with you you gotta have your head on a swivel because next time he gets fired up at you he he's coming hot at you. You know that. Oh, yeah, I deserve it. If he would have cold cocked me in the face right there, I would have just ate it and just been like, yeah, let's go. I'm not trying to make this situation acceptable, but this is what happens when you have highly motivated, passionate individuals. This doesn't happen if you and Andy aren't as close as you are.

That's what nobody knows. Valid point. The reason this happens is because you two love each other so much and respect each other so much that you feel open enough to have an interaction like this. It wasn't me mad at Coach Reed as it looks. It was the frustration of our team not having success, turning the ball over, and me being on the sideline. Damn it. It was pleading with your head coach to let you go out there and win this.

That's what it was. Me and you both know what it was. Andy knows what you mean to him and what he means to you. All right, good. So that puts it to bed. Yeah. Right? That puts it absolutely to bed.

There's a lot of people, I think, that have never been on team sports or been around uber-competitive people that had a certain takeaway from it. And I don't think Travis Kelsey would do that again if he certainly was in this situation. I think he would not want that to become, I don't want to say a story, but it was. It was one of the stories of the Super Bowl. But it is something that potentially happens,

especially on the biggest stage. Andy Reid not retiring, thank God. Travis Kelsey not retiring, thank God. Is there going to be any more of these AQ? You think Travis Kelsey has learned his lesson? You think he's still going to yell in Andy Reid's face whenever things aren't going great at the super bowl listen there's more cameras on him than we can even count at this point but it's competition like people get so heated and

passionate when they're in the middle of a game right i've had plenty of these moments like had it has it gone that far i don't know but i remember uh in the middle of a drive coming back we were in indianapolis early in my career, and somebody comes into my knee. I feel my knee pop. I know it's a torn MCL, right, like at least, at the least. And it was in the final minute of the game. We were driving. I think we were down nine.

You were probably part of that team. You were on that team. And it was down in Houston, and I'm walking off the field with the trainers, and I know I got torn. All I can think about is like, oh, shit, my career might be over, right, or the season might be over, right? And Bruce Arians is like, hey, if, my career might be over, right, or my season might be over, right? And Bruce Arians is like, hey, if you can get off the field, it's a 10-second runoff.

Get off the field. And I'm like, the words, I can't say them during the first two hours, came out of my mouth back at him. I bowed up, you know, and we had one of those moments and hug it out after the game. But it's like that's what happens. Like when you're trying to win, you understand those situations are going to happen. Yeah, and I think Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey obviously have a lot of love for

each other. They said that immediately after the game, immediately after the moment, now going forward, they're multiple times Superbowl champions together and joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the fifth commissioner of the NBA. A man who's in town for the NBA all-star weekend, which is happening right here in Indianapolis, Indiana, Adam Silver.

Hey, man. Yeah, Adam. Woo! Good dab, good dab. Yeah, you just go right around. Yep. Great dab. That was a very good dab.

Yeah, that was a good pop. Yeah, Roger Goodell, I don't know what he's doing with. You coming in with a full dab. How you doing, boss? I'm doing great. Thank you. Thanks for having me. No problem at all.

That should be good, I think. Is it? No, I think so. You can hear me. Yeah problem at all. That should be good, I think. Is it? No, I think so. You can hear me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You sound good. All right. Hey, you look amazing.

You know, TV doesn't do this studio justice. What do you mean? I mean, first of all, it's bigger than I thought it was. Thank you. I mean, I could tell. But also, you got to show some shots from outside. I mean, I know. I guess, are we technically still in Indianapolis or the suburbs of Indianapolis?

Well, yes. We are in the suburbs, but we are still technically in Indianapolis. Indianapolis does that whole, like, hey, our city's 40 miles. Right, but when you say suburbs, there's like a guy's house

across the street. Yep. Yeah, he actually, he's not like we're in, like, a complex with other companies and things. Like, there's a bunch of houses, houses, houses,

and all of a sudden the guy's driving me up. He goes, that's it. That's the Thunderdome. It's just a parking lot. I don't want to give you guys up. Not a lot of security. Whoa! A lot of security. A lot of security.

It's just we're in a nice neighborhood. Great to be here. Hey, we're lucky to have you here. Thank you for making the trip. That neighbor you're talking about, he actually went to the city council meeting whenever I had to get this place rezoned, and he did not have you here. Thank you for making the trip. That neighbor you're talking about, he actually went to the city council meeting whenever I had to get this place rezoned, and he did not want us here. So that neighbor you're talking about might have red dot on our building at all times.

He's a Vietnam War vet. Thanks for your service, Smothers. Thank you, Smothers. We know him. Well, we haven't met him, but he hates us. Thank you for making the trip not only to our Thunderdome but to Indianapolis. Thank you for picking Indianapolis for the home of the All-Star weekend. This is huge for our city, huge for obviously local businesses,

and I think we're going to crush it. Obviously, Celebrity All-Star game on Friday, then the skills in the game on Saturday. And I want to lead off with this. We obviously just saw the Pro Bowl games, and the NFL has had to cook up so many things to try to make the Pro Bowl matter. And a lot of the big-name guys don't go. There's a lot of opt-outs, a lot of opt-outs.

For the NBA, there isn't really that. All your big stars show up for your All-Star. Why do you think that is the case? Well, I think there's a different tradition in the NBA around our All-Star. Super Bowl, of course, is neutral site. We don't have a neutral site finals. And for us, for our community, it's a place where people can plan a year in advance. They know we're going to be in Indianapolis.

You know, we can, whether it's our business partners, media from around the world that cover the NBA, that's I think why we generate such a big audience and so much interest for the weekend. I mean, I think the game itself, you know, is something that the guys show up. I think that one of the things we're returning to the traditional East versus West format this year and, frankly, hoping to get a little bit better of a game.

I mean, I also get it. I know when I was a kid and you watched an All-Star game in any sport, it was almost your only opportunity to see players from other teams unless there was a World Series or a Finals or something like that. And now, because these guys are so available in terms of digital media, you know, league passes, you can get any game, any sport, that it's not so unusual to see stars that you wouldn't otherwise see. I mean, if you live on the East Coast, Steph Curry is a perfect example.

I mean, the old days, because it was a later time zone, stuff in the East, you'd see a guy like that, of course, in the playoffs. But even then, a lot of their playoff games would be late in the finals. Now, of course, you can watch every Warriors game if you want. So I think and plus these guys know each other in our sport in a way differently than they did in the old days. They grew up playing AAU or, you know, EYBL through Nike together. They just they've built relationships as kids. They've been around each other. So even I think for them, it's not as unique and special to be around players

from other teams. And also contracts are shorter. A bunch of things. But long story short, it's still for us in our community to have them all come together, to be on the court together, and also to have fun. I know sometimes there's criticism that there's not enough defense played in all-star games, that it's not a game. Again, I think it's going to be more of a game this year in Indianapolis.

I think the guys recognized that last year we needed to do more. I mean, people want to see a little bit of defense. But they know it's not a playoff game. Nobody wants to get hurt. But I think we can have a little bit of both. But also make sure everybody remembers this game's about joy and fun. Some of the things you were just talking about, about teamwork, guys coming together, that's all part of what this is.

Sunday is the All-Star Game, East versus West. Saturday, Skills Challenge. Friday night, Celebrity All-Star Game. Taking over all of Indianapolis and downtown Indianapolis. That's a very good point about how we don't have a Super Bowl, so everybody can't just plan to be in one spot. So this kind of acts as that. We were just in Vegas for the Super Bowl, which leads to the next question.

When's Vegas getting a team? Here we go. That place was perfect. It is. As people that spent, now, that's the first time I've spent four days there, and I only had four drinks. Thank you, Adam. I'm an adult. Very mature. But it was like business. But you see how

everything's set up like perfectly to host. And it feels like they have a real need and a yearn for more professional sports. They show up for everybody. That's a question, I guess, that you have to handle on a very regular basis. But when is Vegas getting a team? And is that in direct eyesight of right now? Yeah, so a few things. One, we have a WNBA team.

Oh, the Aces. Back champs. We shouldn't forget about them. Kelsey Plum and team. Oh, the Aces back to back champs. We shouldn't forget about them. Kelsey Plum and team. Hey, shout out. And also a point that I've made to the mayor. Both, you know, there was Oscar Goodman was the mayor. Now his wife, Carolyn Goodman, is the mayor.

So there's been a long stretch of Goodmans as mayors. And from the days when sports leagues weren't playing in Vegas, and some leagues weren't even taking advertising from Vegas, we brought our summer league there and then an all-star game there. So we've never been anti-Vegas as a league. And furthermore, our summer league now, by virtue of taking up the first two weeks of July, has become almost like a franchise in Vegas.

And I'm not saying it's quite the equivalent. It's not our 31st team, but it's two weeks of July has become almost like a franchise in Vegas. And I'm not saying it's quite the equivalent. It's not our 31st team, but it's two weeks of basketball at a time of year in Vegas when there's not a lot else going on. And I don't know if you guys have ever been to our summer league. It's sometimes people compared to sort of baseball winter meetings in that not only do you have actual games though, of the guys were just drafted and some of the young players,

but the whole community comes together there. So you have most of the vets come to meet their new teammates. There's team activities, all the general managers there, et cetera. So I feel like we already have a big presence in Vegas. I think in terms of expansion to Vegas, what we've said for a while now is we have one more year left on our television deals in the U.S. after this year. And so we want to figure out what our media relationships are going to look like. But then we will turn to expansion. And Vegas is definitely on our list.

What's remarkable about Las Vegas, it's not that large a market as the U.S. goes. I mean, I forget. Last I looked, I think it was the 44th largest market or something like that. But, man, do they punch above their weight and and to your guys point um about the super bowl i mean record rating obviously and i mean that says so much about the game and the nfl but it seemed like everyone i knew was there for the super bowl just the number of parties you guys of course chose to broadcast from there for the week it was the center of the sporting world and and by that i really mean world.

I mean, and even though the NFL is just now pushing to become more global, I can tell you by virtue of how global we are, there was enormous awareness of Las Vegas and awareness that our Super Bowl was there. And from everything I saw, in addition to having an incredible game, it was a huge success. I mean, when we were there years ago for our All-Star game, honestly, and I think everybody knew it at the time,

the city felt a little bit overwhelmed. But I think now, all these years later, with multiple pro sports teams, you know, they built the airport up, a lot more properties and everything else. I mean, they know how to host events in a first-class way. People love going there. Love it. Those Raiders games, if the Raiders would be terrible, which I don't think they will be,

like Antonio Pierce, that would still fill up. It's a trip. It's a destination. Back to the neutral site notion, I think what the NFL does so well, by virtue of making every game an event, if you're a Giants fan and that's the weekend

or whatever, that's the date that your team is playing in Vegas. Once the schedule comes out, you can circle that date and you and your buddies can say, all right, that's our weekend in Vegas. And you remember even dates when the Super Bowl, of course, hasn't been in Vegas, it was always a even when when dates when the Super Bowl of course hasn't been in

Vegas it was always a big date in Vegas for the Super Bowl weekend because a lot of people say that's where we're going to go we're going to be in a sports book or whatever else because I mean it wasn't that long ago where that was the only place you could legally bet of course on the NFL okay so we got one year left on the TV deals I should have known that obviously before you said that but live sports up and to the right. Right? Like right now, League, I assume you guys are in a very good spot because of the way the content business is.

Are you thinking about streaming? How do you kind of balance what the future of the NBA looks like? Because I had to have this much smaller level. We're a show on YouTube. And everybody says the future is streaming, streaming, streaming, streaming. Everybody's trying to get subscribers. Everybody's trying to get people everywhere.

But linear television still has a hammer. How long will it remain that way? We don't know, especially with this new merger that just allegedly took place between ESPN, Fox, which we knew nothing about until it kind of got announced. But, like, how do you balance all this? Neither did I. Really? Really? You had no this? Neither did I. Really? Really? You had no idea?

Well, no. I mean, there's no secret about that. It's a joint venture among those companies, and I think they're not claiming they told the leagues about it beforehand. So we'll see what it becomes, but go on. But that's obviously a massive piece of this entire thing. What do you look at the future? How do you kind of balance when we go to tomorrow? Or do we stay in today?

How do you balance all that? You know, and I could talk forever on this, so feel free to cut me off. I mean, because the answer is all of the above. Like, up and to the right, absolutely, in terms of premium live sports. There's no question that, and it's not just the United States, but around the world, premium live sports cuts through in a way no other content does. And as great as all the dramas are on the great, on, on these well-run streaming platforms,

or even the dramas that may still be on network or traditional cable channels, they're not appointment viewing. You know, you can sit down and there's a great show that you want to watch on, on Netflix, you know, Hulu,

whatever else you're going to, not to take anything away from it, but you're going to watch it when you're going to watch it, or you're going to binge watch it, or you're on a plane and, you know, watch a, whatever else, not to take anything away from it, but you're going to watch it when you're going to watch it or you're going to binge watch it or you're on a plane and, you know, watch a bunch of hours at once. I think what live sports are continuing to separate themselves from everything else because even for advertisers, and your show, of course, is live and it's meaningful to advertisers

because they know when it's on day, week and all that. But I'm just saying that for live sports, they can aggregate an audience, a live audience like nothing else. And if you look at what's happened in ratings over time, and I will say to the NFL and everything else, I mean, we're very global in a way that the NFL isn't quite and maybe will become one day. But in the U.S., to your point, what linear television can still do,

if you had been asking experts, I don't know, 10 years ago or even five years ago, would the NFL be breaking records for an audience at a medium on traditional broadcast television? I mean, it was also streamed, the Super Bowl, but in a traditional medium where people thought or felt was going backwards, I don't think people would have been saying whatever the number was, 123 million people, average viewer per minute. And by the way, I qualify that because people forget too, that rating we all hear about,

that's the average number of people per minute. So the total, I may have this slightly off, but the total people in the U.S. who will have watched some portion of the Super Bowl is closer to 200 million. 202. Okay, exactly. I mean, so it's interesting.

Everybody talks about the 123 million, but I would be talking about the 200 million number because that's the number of people watching Super Bowl. They all lose, too. Yeah, that's our show, too, a much smaller number. But, yeah, the 202 million people watching Super Bowl. Yeah, I mean, that's – and there are 330 million people in the United States. So, I mean, I don't know how many people are under a certain age who wouldn't be making that decision.

I mean, essentially everybody was watching. And also, I was just listening to you before I came out. I mean, one of the things that live sports continues to do, what else brings people in a divided world, divided country, where everybody comes together for a game? And by the way, and not just for the game, but everybody accepts that these are the rules of the game, that when the game is over, this is the team who won.

This is how many minutes it is. I mean, I've said the same thing about the World Cup of Soccer before. That was in Qatar, and you had, I don't know, 125 countries that competed to be in the World Cup, countries with completely different systems, different values, different governments and everything else, yet the games start. Those are the rules. Everybody accepts that that's how the competition works.

And then when the finals are over, you crown a champion, everybody says that's it, that's how it works. So it's quite amazing what sports can do. And, again, I think the NFL is an incredible example of that. And that game by I mean, it helped, of course, it was a fantastic game and people look forward to watching Usher and the commercials. I mean, it's the total package and Taylor Swift, that, too. Yeah, no, she I just heard like maybe they don't want her at the parade because that'll overwhelm the city. I mean, that's that's how big a factor she is.

So all of those things, but that's been true of all sports. I just think where the NFL has done a fantastic job is commanding traditional broadcast television. And now, that's why I said I could talk about this forever. To your point about streaming, like streaming, on the other hand, for us as we look to to reach a younger audience if if you think about what's happening in traditional television cable and even broadcast television most people at the end of the day are watching broadcast television through cable or satellite most people don't have an antenna you know in their house where there were there were kids people did when i was a kid but not anymore i. I mean, some people do, and it makes sense for people who complement a streaming package by having an antenna and stuff.

But most people are still watching through traditional cable and satellite. And this is a generalization to say, but it's largely younger people who either never subscribed to cable or cut the cord economically. And so that portion of our fan base that tends to be very young, probably the youngest of the major sports, they become disenfranchised. If our games are on ESPN and TNT and ABC, but they're not subscribing to traditional cable or satellite, they're feasting on social media and watching TikTok or Instagram or whatever and getting a lot of highlights and stuff,

but they're not watching our games. And so partly for us, in terms of going to streaming, we want to make sure that our fan base can I mean, they're going to have to pay a reasonable price, but that those games are accessible to them, and particularly it's

not just because they're cutting the cord for traditional cable and satellite, but they live on their phones. Their first instinct when they watch Not just because they're cutting the cord for traditional cable and satellite, but they live on their phones. Yes. Their first instinct when they watch programming or even when something's happening in the world is not to go to their television. Of course, like my generation, if you heard something was going on in the world, you wanted to see the images. I've got to get to a television. Now, any generation, you just take out your phone. Yeah, so you said a lot there, but the first screen, second screen thing is flipped now.

First screen in marketing used to be the TV. Second screen was the phone. Now, first screen is phone. Second screen is TV, because even when TV's on, it's just background for a large portion of people. So let's talk about the streaming thing a little bit here. So Apple is worth $2.9 trillion.

Congrats to them. Yeah, that'll pull it. They got it figured out. That's the wealthiest company on Earth. I think Microsoft topped them slightly. Really? I think Microsoft hit $3 trillion, believe it or not. What?

I mean, but they're very close. Excel. But another technology company, to your point. Boom, and they're getting into streaming. They obviously got the MLS. That was a massive deal. So, like, Howard Stern, whenever he decided to go to sirius xm a lot of people thought the decision was made by a person who's like i'm gonna take a massive paycheck but i'm also gonna

lose a portion of my audience because free radio is free radio and everybody will listen like if apple wants to get in the game they have more money than anybody's if they want amazon if they want to get in the game completely will you keep it like because the nfl has like a thursday night football is on Amazon. You've got to do that. One playoff game is on Peacock. I believe they disagreed. Another playoff game is going to be on Amazon exclusively. There's a Black Friday game on Amazon, but then

a large majority of their games, I think like 92% or something like that, are free on linear television. Is that how you have to break it up? And how do you start parceling that? Because with a year out, I assume you're already in these negotiations right now. And don't forget your partner, YouTube, Google. Yes.

Also a huge factor now in streaming media. And I'll just go back to one of the points you made even using your own show as an example. Think about how you started on YouTube. And I know this show is still streamed in part on YouTube right now. Right how you started on YouTube. And I know this show is still streamed in part on YouTube, right?

Hell yeah. Right now you're on YouTube. So we're on YouTube. You're on YouTube right now. But then you have an exclusive portion of it on YouTube, right? And the fact that we're here in Indianapolis in this studio and that – and where does AJ come from? Dublin, Ohio, wherever he is.

I mean, it's quite remarkable that I'm watching in New York. To me, you guys, I mean, to most viewers, you might as well be either in Bristol, Connecticut at ESPN, or in a studio. I mean, like, so much has dramatically changed, and I don't think people have caught up with yet. Like, even, as I was saying, if people could see this studio, I mean, when I'm watching, I mean, the quality's perfect.

I mean, it's not as if we're thinking, you guys my guy kind of stinks today. Yeah. Yeah. But, but, but it's not as if people have to understand that you could essentially be anywhere. You can take your show on the road. You can take a former church like this, and this becomes a studio that you can have guests that can be anywhere. I mean, the nature of the whole business has changed, I think, more than people even understand at this point. We have people that watch in New Zealand and Australia live during the show. And for the NBA, people in 215 countries and territories watch our programming. And what's happening now in this global market is,

and I think it's good news for content creators like you guys guys are for the NBA that at the end of the day, regardless of the platform broadcast cable streaming satellite, you know, that old adage content is King. People will find great content. Like when they had that, that NFL game on Peacock, um,

a playoff game. And there was a lot of conjecture. Well, yeah, it's so difficult, you know, is our, my parents going to figure out what they have to do to stream the game?

You know, all the things talk. 23 million people. Ratings are up. Ratings are up. Because people find great content. And there was a time roughly 20 years ago when the NBA, led by David Stern, when we, frankly, for economic reasons, went more heavily to cable, you know, from where we had more of our games back then on NBC.

Then we moved to ABC, but they wanted a big portion of the package to be on ESPN and we remain on TNT. A lot of people are saying that was going to be the demise of the NBA because you've left broadcast television and this cable thing, you now it's interesting that 20 years later, now here's the next generation of technology, and people are saying, oh, my God, it's streaming. Now, I would say that I think what streaming can do, what people forget sometimes, like the Peacock game in a way,

you could take a game that, let's say, would have been on NBC and they put it exclusively on Peacock instead. And it's essentially the same game. I mean, there's some slight variations, but you're watching the game. You just got to find it on Peacock. I think it's early days, but Amazon's been experimenting a lot there, YouTube TV, et cetera, in terms of what the functionality, what the personalization, customization you're going to be able to do when you move off this traditional television. You know, you guys were talking about sports betting before. I mean, the great news about sports betting, when you get to those formats, to extent you're

either it's because there's minors or you personally want nothing to do with sports betting. You don't want to hear odds. You don't want to talk about it. Click, click. it's done. Or if you want, like, show me everything. I want to know the odds on every play. You've got that.

I only care about watching. I want to follow Steph Curry wherever he is on the court. I want to hear it in unlimited languages. I want to be in the locker room. I want to buy product while the game is going on. I want to be having a conversation like you guys are. I want to replicate this. I want to sit and talk to my friends and just talk about it.

You know, I'm going to tune in and out of the professional announcers. I just, I want to call a game. I want to treat it like I went to a game with my friends, like we're in a suite and we're just talking about it. I mean, it's such early days there to me of how much richer the experience can be when it comes to streaming. And as I said, that's going to change dramatically as well. And then there's also the availability that, you know, now, sure, I think people, to the extent they have a beautiful, large, high-definition screen and they're at home,

presumably that's where they're going to prefer to watch it. But not always. I'm often, I live in an apartment in New York, but in many cases it's easier for me, if I'm going through the NBA League Pass, there's a lot of games on, it's easier from a technical standpoint for me to flip through on my iPad to go from game to game than to do it on my television. Well, let's not even start talking about the Apple Vision.

I mean, the Apple Vision had like five games on at one time where they were swapping it out. So good luck negotiating all that. Honestly, good luck negotiating all that. We're excited to see what you do. Let's talk about the on-floor stuff. So the 65-game minimum agreed by you and the players association i think it was an attempt obviously for whenever fans show up to games and there's obviously load management happening and all the

stars aren't playing on particular evenings like there was a couple times where somebody was coming to indiana to play and literally the place sold out for whoever and then they get there and that person's like they're just sitting. That's not good for the player because that player's getting booed by those fans that are there. Not good for the league because obviously you're maybe selling something that isn't the case. So you come to this 65-game agreement where you have to play this amount of time to get awards.

Now, in your league, if you get awards, that bumps up paydays and future contracts, so they very much matter. Now, with Joel Embiid, Tyrese Halliburton, and a little bit of backlash of the situation how do you feel about the 65 game minimum thing will that evolve will that change and do you think this has been good overall for the nba fan experience which i think is the only thing that really matters at the end of the day in a conversation a great point i think

generally it's been very positive and you can look at the numbers in terms just take the the the pool of all-star players. And if you looked at the number of games to date that they had played last season, essentially to the all-star break and compared it to this season, it's up significantly in terms of because they care about eligibility for awards. I think because what that means for their legacy. And there's financial implications, too, for being All-NBA or winning other awards as well. So I think from that standpoint, it's been effective.

I think we always knew once you were going to establish a cutoff, and remember the 65, I mean, it's not an exact science, but it was intent when we sat down with the Players Association to incorporate both injuries and resting, because certainly there wasn't a sense that you could rest 17 games and that you should still be eligible. It was like, all right, on average, guys are going to be injured a certain number of games.

So we tried to come up with a line that we thought was fair. You know, Andre Iguodala is head of the former players, now head of our players association. He and I had a conversation about this the other day, and he wasn't there when this provision was negotiated. And Tyrese is a great example where somebody, there's no question about rest. I mean, he wants to be out there every night.

And these kind of injuries, again, when you're injured, you're out for successive games. Nobody's questioning his character. Nobody's suggesting by any means he's not out there every night he can be. And I think the question from Andre was, is this something that we should take a fresh look at? And my response was, first of all, let's wait until the end of the season. Because, one, Tyrese, like, he's still – I forget if it's exactly three or four,

but he can still miss a few more games and still be eligible for those awards. So he's not below – And, like, an extra $40 million or something. Oh, yeah. So he's not below the six – well, he. Oh yeah. So, so he's not, he's not below the six. Well, he'd also then also need to become all NBA. I'm not suggesting he won't,

but it's not just automatically if he plays this number of games, but I think most importantly, we got, we should wait till the end of the season and look at the numbers because yeah, you know, and I, and I,

and I think Andre sees it the same way. His obligation is to 450 players. As you began your question, ultimately, this is about the fans and about putting the best product forward. And it's in everybody's interest. That's why when we sat down in collective bargaining, there wasn't a lot of dispute about the fact that load management was not working well for this league.

I mean, there's a whole separate issue as to whether even there's sound science behind it, whether it even works, frankly. And we've done more research on that. Sure, it affects, I mean, you guys know as athletes, if you're tired, there's no question if it's the second game in a back-to-back, it may reduce performance. But there's no good data that that leads to more injuries. So parking that for a second. Geez, I'm excited to hear the rebuttal to that.

There's some analytics person. I'm sure there is. And by the way, one thing that we did, and you guys end up wading into science and medical issues. Not now. I don't need that. When we did that research with a group of doctors, I said, let's publish it. This shouldn't be we the league decided.

Put it out. Put all our data out there and have at it. That's what's cool about science in a way that people, you can put information out there, and then if people have better data, better research, other science, or just other opinions, let's consider them all. So this is not. Don't you get into that. I'm moving on from that.

So anyway, the shorter answer to your question, I think it's generally working. It's having the desired effect that guys are out on the floor. And I think there's a realization, just back to your question about media, all these things connect to each other. But one thing that's really changed, it's more pay for play these days. I mean, the biggest issue for streaming services, and you hear this all the time, is churn. And that is people who are saying, I watch my show that I bought this service for, it's over, click. And remember,

like churning out of cable was, all right uh the truck has to roll and they're like all right can you be home between nine and five you know on march 12th and you're like oh it's like you know windows you know the window and then they get it back and so and often if you wanted to switch providers they literally had to you know whether they had to put a dish on your roof or you know or install you install other wiring in your house. Literally, to switch in and out of these services is a click. And so part of what we have to focus on as leagues and all entertainment programming is people staying with you. And just back to your early question about us going to market,

the WNBA has grown leaps and bounds in popularity. Look at what Caitlin Clark is doing coming into the league. She's coming to the Fever next year. That would be incredible. It would be. That the NBA is 260 nights of programming a year, the WNBA is 60. So as we go together to potential media partners, that's 320 nights of programming.

So, I mean, nothing is churn-proof, but the extent that you can have great content throughout the year, that's going to strongly encourage somebody to stay with that service. Yeah, and you need your stars to play. And you need your stars to play. Just talking as a human that would potentially pay a ticket to go watch, if I went, and I think every OG of the NBA was on the same page as well, like this load management is crap.

Like they're talking about what Michael Jordan and like Kobe and the greats, how they had to play. And, like, their obligation to the league almost is what you heard a lot of the X-Stars talk about. And I can appreciate them saying that. And anytime Charles Barkley speaks, I'm going to be listening, of course. But, like, just as a fan that might pay money in Indiana to go watch somebody who's coming to town,

and then you go down there. Let's say I paid $50 for a ticket. Food is what? Another $30 probably for my... I'm spending $100, and then you go down there. Let's say I paid $50 for a ticket. Food is what? Another $30 probably for my – I'm spending $100, okay, to go watch this. And then I get there, and I'm told 20 minutes before they're not going to – like that's not good. That's not good for the NBA. That's not good for anybody.

So I think you're on the right path, I think, personally. And Piston's great. Joe Dumars is the head of basketball operations at the league now, and he recently joined the league. And he has so much credibility as a player and as a GM where he won a championship. And I love when I hear Joe say, because to me, frankly, he has more credibility than me saying as a former player when he says, we are an 82-game league.

We're an 82-game league. And, of course, that doesn't mean we're trying to turn the clock back because in the old days in every sport, guys probably played at times when they were legitimately injured and they ended up hurting themselves physically, you know, long past their playing careers. I think, you know, there's a distinction between injured, caught, and hurt or banged up.

And I think as professionals, and again, everybody has to find where that line is. But I think what you hear from, you were saying the OGs in the league, that partly they see an issue with a younger generation of players coming to the league. It's happening everywhere. It's just professionalism. And again, I don't want to pick on athletes because it's in every field. You hear it from old lawyers talking about young lawyers, old doctors talking about young doctors.

Oh, I didn't know suits were talking about suits. Oh, interesting. Wow. And it's just about, you know, and maybe that was a time memorial when I was a kid, right? I don't think there's anything new going on, but I think teaching that ethic,

the professionalism that comes with sport, and particularly in a team sport. Because it's not just about you. Hell yeah. Connor's got a question for you. Yeah, Kamish, one thing that the NBA does that it feels like not many other leagues do is the teams that get formed in the offseason are just massive. Obviously, this year, Damian Lillard going from Portland to Milwaukee was a huge story. I mean, Lillard has been a story for a couple years now.

But is that something that the NBA wants and is cognizant of? Like, the Pacers, for instance, they just made a move for Pascal Siakam. Like, are those type of teams where there are multiple stars on each team something that the NBA likes? Or is this kind of contract 65 game rule, is that something that also kind of factors into the, hey, if guys do stay with their teams longer, then they do have that potential to have the escalators

and the contracts like we talked about. And to piggyback on that, LeBron was almost at the Golden State Warriors just a couple days ago. I read that. I have no other knowledge other than I read that there was those discussions, so who knows. Hold on a second. They don't run that by, like, LeBron going to the Golden State Warriors? It only comes to the league office

if they actually have a proposed trade. Then we have to approve it. But for, as I just read the reports, that if owners are talking to each other about possible moves or GMs, absolutely not. In fact, they're laughing to hear me say this, they don't trust the league office. If they're thinking about something like that, we're the last people they're going to tell until they

have to. Would you approve that, Craig? You know, it's interesting. For us, we don't have discretion. If a trade, because I get this question all the time, if a trade is within the rules, it's within the rules. And I don't think you would want, back to my point before about the sort of rule of law around sports, I don't think people would want me sitting here saying, I don't think that's good for the league. I mean, the rules are the rules.

If we don't like the rules, next time we sit down and collect a bargaining, we should change it. But to your question. So you would approve that? If it fit under the rules, I would have to. It's not within my discretion. Is that a new rule? Because Chris Paul got traded to the Lakers. I'm going to defend my former Boston mentor, David Stern.

Rest in peace. Rest in peace. At that point, David was acting as the, in essence, owner of New Orleans. Got it. It was an unusual situation there, and he was wearing two hats. And his view, when that trade came to him, he didn't think that trade was in the best interest of the team. Incidentally, when I learned my lesson,

there was a period when the league office was running the Clippers, when Donald Sterling was banned from the league. And I brought in a guy named Dick Parsons, who'd been the former CEO of Time Warner and I said Dick you are now running the Flaunts of Angels Clippers you're making decisions about basketball not me so and now to Connor's question that so we in successive collective bargain agreements have I think done a good job incrementally creating more, I would say, parity around the league.

And by parity, not to me, it would be fake parity if you sort of played it as if let's just divvy up the players around the league and say every team should get one superstar of this level, one there. To me, I think of it as parity of opportunity because the great GMs, great management in this league should have an advantage. And you're seeing that now in small and big markets when you have really good people running teams.

And then to your point about someone like Damian Lillard leaving, I mean, one, of course we want guys to honor contracts. In some cases, behind closed doors, I think teams and players are coming to agreement that it may be time for the player to move on. And so it's a mutual decision, but I also think one of the things we've worked towards again, over, over the years through collective bargaining is shortening contracts and

trying to find the right balance. Because remember in our system, we pay out in the aggregate call, you know, 50% of the revenue of the league, not a penny less penny more. And then it's just the question of the league, not a penny less, penny more. And then it's just a question of how that money gets distributed among 450 guys. So when we come up with a system where, for example, a team can pay its own player more, that of course creates an incentive for the player to stay in that market, but the player could choose to still move on.

When we shorten contracts, on one hand, if I were representing the players, I'd say, well, you want guaranteed money. You don't want a position where a guy blows out his knee or whatever. There's just all kinds of risk where a guy is out of luck or just his skill declines. Let a guy take advantage of the leverage when he has it.

But remember, Magic Johnson had a 25-year contract. Damn. And people went crazy at the time, and Jerry Buss was a genius and probably made incredible good business sense for Magic Johnson. But now, you know, we've essentially reduced maximum contracts to five years, in some cases six. So now, you know, we used to refer to it in the league as sort of dead money at the end of the bench. You'd have

a star player, but then enter, let's say, a nine-year contract or eight-year contract or seven-year contract. They would know at the time they negotiated that contract. Just analytically, it was unlikely that this player was going to be at the top of his game towards those end years. Now, the player had the leverage and totality to get that money, but it also

meant, and not to take anything away from the player, but if that player were sitting at the end of the bench and were a max player, there wasn't sufficient money to have guys on your roster that were going to help you win champions. So I think, again, when you shorten contracts, again, if you have a system where in the aggregate you're going to pay out 50%, by definition it has to go to someone else.

So it might surprise you guys, but when you're sitting across from a group of players and you move more towards a pay-per-performance and it's a fixed pool of money, that's not something that players come in who are automatically against, especially players who believe in themselves, you know, who are saying, like, it's fine. I like this pay-per-performance. Because, on the other hand, if you have a shorter contract and you feel you're underpaid or you haven't had a chance to become a free agent, also, it it's like I'm going to show them, and then my next contract, I'm going to make even more.

Yeah, I think everything that you guys do business-wise with the players is idolized by every other league. So you need to know that as a guy that's running one of the power fours. And All-Star Weekend is a celebration. I'm excited to see how Indianapolis treats you, how you appreciate the hell out of the city. I think you're going to love it. Obviously, you've been here before.

And I can't wait to see you guys put on a show this weekend. We appreciate the hell out of you. Yeah, well, thank you also for participating in the celebrity. Not as a player as I understand it. I'm in balking season. Okay, I got it. Now's not the time to jump. You're going to be out there, so thank you for being there.

Yeah, thank you for the invite. Friday night. No, Indianapolis has been fantastic. I just quickly about Herb Simon, who is the principal governor, owner of the team. Simon Malls. Brilliant. He and his brother Mel created Simon Property.

Simon Malls, they bought the team together. Mel died some number of years ago. But Herb is very sensitive. I'm not going to say the oldest owner in the league, but he's the longest standing. He truly is the longest standing owner in the NBA. He's an incredible person. This guy, Rick Fusin, who runs the team, he was here in 1985 when the last NBA All-Star game was in Indianapolis.

And also just a shout out to your city. I mean, to me, just as someone who travels all over the country and all over the world for that matter, this is the city that works and the state too the party doesn't even matter, a governor of one party a mayor of a different party they work so well together

just the way the community comes together for big events, I mean no one quite does it like Indianapolis, I mean Las Vegas is just at a different scale because of who they are. But I'd say if someone's coming into a market just to make it turnkey for us to do business, it's been fantastic here. So thank you to the community. Hey, we thank you for joining us.

And thank you. You're awesome. We'll be back in about three minutes. Take care. Hello, beautiful people and welcome back to our humble abode the thunderdome on this we love love commissioner wednesday february 14th 2024 after the program begins right now sports are wonderful we just had a great conversation about the sport of basketball with the commissioner of the NBA, old Adam. Hey, 6'3", not 6'6". He is handsome.

Might be the first person that has ever worn an actual suit and tie into this particular Thunderdome, but thank you to him and the NBA for their hospitality, for not only joining us, but taking over the city of Indianapolis and bringing so much money to this glorious town. We will play great hosts as the NBA celebrates all of their phenomenal talent that have come to town. Now, it's not just me here on this glorious Valentine's Day, which we hope you are having a lovely one. The Toxic Table is here, although it looks a little bit different.

Boston Connor and Darius J. Butler. Hey, Con Man, I know you're a big basketball fan because you're from up there in Boston. Sure. A lot of people say that, like, Adam Silver, you know, not an easy job being a commissioner or anything. No. How about how he handled that like a complete human error? I mean, he's a nuclear weapon. There are some commissioners who refuse to come on the show, and we won't, you know, acknowledge them.

But Adam Silver is a weapon. I loved everything he said in there when he talked about Indianapolis, too. Like, Indiana is a working city. And for things like this, and you've mentioned it a bunch of times. State, yeah, excuse me. But a bunch of times you've said it. Like the hospitality in Indiana is real. Like this is a great city for an all-star game.

Hopefully we can get some other events, a la Super Bowl, WrestleMania, who knows. Come on, come on. Something to think about. And I think this weekend is going to be incredible. Also confirmed his windmilling days are behind my accent. I did ask him. He said no, he can't anymore. That's a great question because we were, whenever he was going to get introduced,

we were going to chest pass, boom, so go ahead and take one. If you want to break the glass here at the Thunderdome, do it. He said he doesn't do that anymore. That's good journalism. I had to ask him. I had to ask. I know the people wanted to know. That Chris Paul trade was obviously a topic of discussion for us here earlier today

because if LeBron was going to the Golden State Warriors, you'd assume LeBron, Steph, Draymond, who's – Oh, yeah, he probably might have been. He would love that. A little bit of Draymond. Clay probably would have been a Laker. Clay's gone for sure. Yeah, but the thought of Draymond and LeBron being on the same team,

wow, that's what a force to be reckoned with. Draymond tried to recruit him, allegedly, called Rich Pohl. You're talking about recruit him now? What about all offseason? They're hanging pretty much every event together in there. But LeBron going to Golden State would be absurd. That would be absolutely absurd. I guess we were pretty close to that,

even though the Lakers said no at the end of the day. How about him saying, I didn't know anything about that? Don't say that that's me. If they would have put it across my desk, I would have approved it if it was of the day. How about him saying, I didn't know anything about that. Don't say that that's me. If they would have put it across my desk, I would have approved it if it was within the guidelines of an NBA trade. But to be clear, they do not trust us to kind of hold that information in,

which I respect the self-awareness. One half of the hammer, Cowboys, Tone Diggs is here. Tone, whenever you talk about gambling on the NBA All-Star Game, what are you looking at, pal? The over. The over always and forever will be the play in the NBA All-Star game. I mean, and if you're going to bet on the dunk contest as well, there's pretty much only one NBA player in the dunk contest,

and that's Jalen Brown. So, I mean, that's probably the way to go there. But over and then dunk contest, there's one NBA player. I'd probably bet on the one NBA player. Who's that? Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown, baby. And then you got – Mack McClung. Mack McClung, not in the NBA. Nope. Who's that? Jalen Brown. Jalen Brown, baby. And then you got –

Mack McClung. Mack McClung, not in the NBA. Nope. You got Obi Toppin's brother. Obi Toppin's brother. Is he in the NBA? He's in the NBA. But sure, we all know that.

But Mack McClung has a chance to win that. Yeah, exactly. This is his super play. Yeah, yeah, because no one's in it. He won it last year, right? Yeah, he won it last year. Looking for back-to-back. Yeah, yeah.

I was going to ask him that. How does that happen? And i wonder what type of brainstorm what type of things they're throwing at the wall to get the guys back in it because we all grew up with i mean we're too young for mj and dominique but kobe yeah it's all events we saw all these greats you know have that moment dwight howard trace mcgrady like some great great dunk competition so i would i would be interested in how they're figuring it out joining Joining us now from an attic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, a man who's a Super Bowl champion, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers,

college football national champion with the Ohio State Buckeyes, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. Hey, A.J. Hawker. A.J., we have a man named A.Q. Shipley joining us, sitting at the end of the desk, but he can't hear anything or say anything. So he's just going to be doing a lot of hand motion. How about A.Q.? A.J., A.J., be doing a lot of hand motion. Have a great day, Q. A little more trip over here.

AJ, we got a Super Bowl parade kicking off in Kansas City. I believe they're having an absolute blast. You were the only team, I think, in modern history that did not get to have a parade, even though you all went to Lambeau and had a blast. Do you look back upon that day fondly as the greatest day of your life, like what A.Q. Shipley called the parade, the boat parade they had down there in Tampa. Well, I mean, A.Q.'s was much different than what I experienced in Green Bay. It was very, very cold, and we did a lap around the stadium and then stood there, and some people made some comments, and then we left.

So we didn't really have the same boat parade experience that A.Q. had. That looked like it was a lot of fun. Ours was fun, just a little bit cold. I can't say it's the greatest day of my life, but winning the Super Bowl was definitely one of the greatest days of my life. Yeah, I assume that you remember that forever, and congrats to Patrick Mahomes seemingly having another 10 that is going to take place.

He already has three, and he's only played football for six years in the NFL. So his batting percentage is pretty high when it comes to Lombardi. If he gets to seven, which is where Tom Brady is, obviously you have to have the conversation. And we thought to ourselves, there's no way anybody's going to catch Tom. No. And then this son of a bitch wins it with his worst offense. And then we're going to see videos from the parade where he's going to say,

hey, see you guys next year. First team ever to get a three-peat. Did the Patriots ever do that? I didn't think so. We'll see you then. It's like these guys have the right mindset, they have the right team, and they're going to continue to enjoy themselves. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man

who's one of the only members of the Houston Texans Ring of Honor. He got a chance to call a Super Bowl from the Super Bowl field on Super Bowl Sunday. Now, what he said was obviously fantastic. Very in-depth knowledge and insight that people could have not only gambled upon, but looked at during the game and said, you know what, that J.J. Watt,

he said this was going to happen. But it seems like his words were forgotten. It was all about how he looked. More specifically, that hair. Joining us now, the man with the hair, J.J. Watt. Yay, J.J.! J.J., obviously the pearly whites are beautiful. Nobody was talking about those.

Nobody was talking about your suit that fit perfectly, had that big tie. Nobody was talking about your posture. Your posture was phenomenal. Second to none. At that desk. All anybody's talking about is how good that hair looked. At least that's how I read it. Whenever you're opening your phone after your coverage of the Super Bowl

and you're seeing one particular notion the entire time, how did it make you feel? Did we make any changes? And congrats on one of the most self-aware tweets in the history of Twitter, slash XJJ1. Thank you. I appreciate it. I mean, you partially expect it.

I mean, anytime you switch it up, especially when there's 125, 200 million people watching, you know there's a chance for a reaction. But I definitely didn't know it was going to be like that. That's for sure. I mean, it was fascinating to watch. It was fun. It was great. I mean, yeah, I don't know what to say, really.

Can you turn your head to the side a little bit? Let's see. I mean, you guys saw it all week. Like, I had the hairstyle all week. No, I didn't see that. What I think happened is the ratio of Spike to Don, the ratio to Spike to Don, I don't know if you've heard me talk about this yet,

but the rate, because as somebody who had that hairstyle at one point in my life, you know, the sloppy spike there, the ratio in which is up and down is a big part of the slot. I think Super Bowl Sunday, your hair was right. You know, your hair was right. There might've been a little bit more spike

than down and everybody seemingly noticed. But when it comes to that particular hairstyle, I think you executed it perfectly. I think it was a good, good look. I mean, the thing about the hairstyle is you literally just, you know, take the product, do this, and then you're done. And so, like, if it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't.

You're not, like, going back and fixing it. So I just woke up on Super Bowl Sunday, put the stuff in, and that's how it looked that day. So, yeah, that's what it was. Every day it looks different. When you looked in the mirror, did you think to yourself, those people were wrong? I don't look like a boy bander.

No, I look good. Did you think that to yourself? No, no. I mean, all of them are fair. Yeah, I don't. I mean, I like it, so I really don't care. Hey, here we go. That's all I got.

That's all I got here. There's some Guy Fieri there. There's certainly some Sugar Ray. There's definitely a little 90s boy band action. There's no Frosted Tips. I don't think it took it to that extreme, but I absolutely loved all of the memes and the jokes. They were great. They were hilarious.

I'm sure you loved them. You should maybe put the sun in there. Ooh, that's a good idea. A little sun in. You remember? Let's go. Lemon, lighten it up. I don't put the sun in there. Ooh, that's a good idea. Put a little sun in. You remember? Let's go. Lemon. Lighten it up.

I mean, I don't think we're going to take the tips that far, but I do enjoy it. I've never had my hair this long before. It's like I've never grown it out, so I'm enjoying growing it out a little bit. We'll see where it goes. Keep going. Oh, maybe, yeah. Get a mullet, dude. You would look unbelievable with a mullet, bro.

I mean, Usher, 90s, like a little throwback. Alicia Keys, Usher. Like, youher, 90s, like a little throwback, Alicia Keys, Usher. Like, you know, just toss it back a little bit. Every style comes back around every 20, 30 years, so why not? Let's talk about the Super Bowl. I feel like the game was fantastic. Started out a little tight, obviously. Thought the Niners had it.

Then there's a fumble. The ball is on the ground four times in the first quarter. There's nerves for everybody, even the back-to-back champions now, the Kansas City Chief chiefs how do you feel like the game went for cbs 202 million they said that game reached obviously it's fantastic but i think the game was great what was your take on it jj there was an incredible game i mean we were obviously extremely excited and happy to have such a great game um that's all you really want you know the first half coach cower and i were extremely happy because it was you know defense

there was there was a little bit of a low scoringscoring game, fumbles, things like that. So we were all happy. Offensive guys at halftime wanted some more action. And then the second half, obviously, everything picked up. I mean, at halftime of that game, I literally, on that broadcast, I said this game is going to come down to two things. Who makes a big mistake and does Travis Kelsey get involved or not? And that muff punt, muff, not muff, whatever, hits the guy's leg.

And then Kelsey obviously had eight catches for 92 yards in the second half. I mean, those two things right there changed the outcome of the game. So it was fascinating. I really, really, really wanted it to go into the second overtime period so that Sean McManus, our outgoing CEO, could say that he called it and the internet would lose its mind completely. But we were four seconds away from that. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes ruined it all for Sean McManus and the scriptwriters.

And also, I saw some people talk about the scriptwriters because of how much money was gambled upon it. The Niners had to win that game. The Niners had to win that game. So kind of a little bit of a throw-off of the script at the end. But the refs obviously wanted Taylor and the Chiefs to win, which is the world we're going to live in now forever. And that's good.

I guess anytime you've got 200 and some million people watching something, money gambled upon something, the eye of the world on something, there's going to be thoughts about, well, this seems to be a little bit of muck. And the Chiefs being the next dynasty seems to be a little bit of muck, and the Chiefs being the next dynasty seems to be the red dot of everybody's focus now at this point, JJ. I mean, it was very nice. I mean, there's no point in that game where you're like, oh, these refs are really slanted one way or another.

It was very nice. The field was never an issue. The refs were never an issue. It was really nice to have a game where it was just good old fashioned, solid football game. And that I do think that it's easy to point out those flaws when it happens last year's field or, you know, big ref plays, but it was great just to have a football game decided on the field. It was, there were a lot of fumbles in the first half. It was, it was pretty wild. And then obviously the punts in the second half, too. But it was fascinating. I like to shout out Leo

Chennault, Wisconsin Badger, who forced that fumble in the first quarter on Christian McCafferty. Massive play, and then he's also the guy who blocked the extra point, which became, as we know, one of the biggest plays of the entire game. So give a lot of credit to that guy, who might not be getting as much credit as he deserves

for having a massive game for the Chiefs. Who? What's his name? Leo Chanel. He does the dirty work, too. He does a bunch of dirty work. He was setting edges. He's taking double teams off people.

He had a hell of a game. Wisco guy. He did. Wisco guy. He had a great game. Wow. Super Bowl champion. I assume he's enjoying the hell out of today's parade.

Go ahead, AJ. JJ, what was it like? What was the atmosphere like? I know you had like a six-hour pregame show, halftime, postgame, all of that. What was that atmosphere like? How bizarre was it? Did you get to meet any of the cool celebs we saw throwing up maybe some, I don't know, weird signs that we're not sure what they might mean?

And also, the second part of that, how awesome was that grass? I thought for a little bit that they had field turf it looks so beautiful the grass is incredible i will say that we were obviously focused on that most of the week and i had actually been out there earlier in the week with usher for his halftime rehearsals and everything um and was looking at the grass yeah were you supposed to be no no no the show the show we're doing, What It Takes, episode one is ushering the halftime show. Whoa!

Did we sell that? Where's that going to air? Is this ball time? We've been wishing for a while. We're still in the – no, ball time's coming. But, no, we're still in the process. So the grass was phenomenal. I mean, it truly was.

And I'm very critical of grass. Obviously, I haven't played for 12 years. And you go out there and you look at it, and especially after the game, went back out there and looked at it, and you could have played another game immediately. It was held up really well. As far as the atmosphere, this is really the first Super Bowl that I've ever let myself just take it all in and enjoy it

and appreciate the atmosphere. Because normally, I've only been a couple times for the Walter Payton Man of the Year where you have to go out and do the little speech and then I would leave right after like I was a player I wanted to be a part of it and I didn't want to sit there and watch it if I wasn't going to be a part of it so this one for me being able to take it all in I'm not going to lie to you man it really made me sad that I was never a part of one never never got to one because it because it is incredible. The experience, I mean, everything that comes with it is special. And then I also saw the other side of it with the end of the game

and the Chiefs winning that and then watching all the 49ers players and seeing how close you were to infamy and history and legacy and knowing what that means and knowing that crushing feeling. So it was fascinating for me to watch. I really, really enjoyed it. And it sure is a spectacle, man. Vegas does it right. Vegas absolutely does it right.

So much heartbreak in that Niners locker room. I mean, just so much, you know, especially with everything they've been through. And now everybody's comparing Shanahan to Andy Reid, getting to the game, can't win big games. Well, is the NFC Championship a big game? Because one NFC Championship. Well, we're talking about the Reid getting to the game. Can't win big games. Was the NFC Championship a big game? Because one NFC Championship. Well, we're talking about the biggest, the biggest game.

Well, we played Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes. So, like, what do we, you know, maybe that's going to be a tough thing to win in this entirety of it all, whatever you talk about it. But, like, that Niners team, you know, they were favored, obviously. So that makes it even worse. But whenever you think about this Chiefs team, listen. Shout to the Niners.

Hell of a year. Excited to see what the Niners do next year. We got nothing but faith in the Niners, and I'm excited to see Brock Purdy in his third year. Brock Purdy's going to be in his third year next year. Whoa, he's a vet now. Can't wait to see what he does. But let's talk about this Chiefs team.

We talked to Patrick Mahomes. He said he's planning on playing until his kid, you know, can grow up in a locker room like he did. So he's got another 11, 12 years left in this thing. Andy Reid said, I've never thought about retiring. Everybody keeps asking me, stop asking me. Go ask Belichick if he's going to retire. He's still trying to get a job.

Go ask Pete Carroll if he wants a job. He's going to do that. Travis Kelsey said, I'm playing for as long as Andy Reid is coaching. He just said that on his New Heights show. It's like, what are we looking at? We're looking at something. We're looking at an anomaly here with his Chiefs team. It's almost like it's devastating to think about,

especially because you've got close ties to Houston. Obviously, with me, with Indianapolis, these are AFC teams. Then you think about Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. You go through the list of all these greats, and it's like we're staring down. This is the one. They're the ones, aren't they? They are the new ones. That's what we're looking at.

Yeah, I mean, I ran into the Tom Brady New England Patriots buzzsaw. I also ran into the Patrick Mahomes Chief buzzsaw. There's no doubt about it. They clearly have not only a phenomenal roster organizational build, but they also have that extreme confidence and belief, rightfully so, because of everything that they've done, because of what they've built there, and because of how they've built it. I mean, people looked at this year and said this was kind of their down year, whatever it may be, and all they did was go out there and say, no, you know what, I think we will

win another one. I think we will go through some of the greatest teams of the entire season on our path through the playoffs to win the Super Bowl. I mean, just look at their path. It's unbelievable. You know, you go through Miami, you go through the Bills, you go through the Ravens, and then you got to go through the Niners. Like that's a gauntlet of teams. And they just, every single step of the way, chopped them down and you got to give them credit. And it's truly impressive. It's truly incredible. And Andy Reid, unbelievable coach, clearly knows how to handle those guys from a personality standpoint and also just a phenomenal coaching standpoint. And then Pat is Pat, man.

What do you think about Travis pushing over Andy Reid? Whoa. Come on. I saw you address it. I think you addressed it exactly correctly. I mean, yeah, in that moment, he definitely wishes he had that back because, I mean, Andy Reid's, what, 70-plus years old? He can't be just coming out of nowhere blindsiding that guy like he he handled it well i mean he stumbled a little bit but he didn't go down like i know a lot of 70 plus year olds going

down right there um andy reed held it well and then i did see the clip where andy reed shoulder check kelsey earlier in the year so there was a little back and forth, and I think that that truly is a sign of, like, a phenomenal relationship. When you can do something like that, which is clearly like, okay, I probably shouldn't have done that, but everybody overcomes it and still goes out there and does something great. And, I mean, also, like, he did need the ball more. Like, he did get the ball eight times in the second half for 92 yards. That was your big halftime. It worked 92 yards. That was your big halftime.

It worked. I think that was your big halftime take, actually, if I recall. Yeah, nobody remembers what I said. Not a single person knows what I said. Pat knows. One catch, he needs more catches if the Chiefs want to win this thing. Me and AJ were actually texting during it. We're like, JJ's right here.

JJ, out of everybody up there, there's like 14 people on that. So many. Tons. At least 14. Hey, they throw everybody up there, there's like 14 people on that. At least 14. They throw some slight shade at you, too. I don't know if you were picking that up. Oh, yeah. I mean, I only show up part-time.

I mean, wouldn't you? Like, yeah. They love to throw that. Boom loves to come at me for being part-time. And I'm like, yeah, I like to spend time with my kids. Yeah, but if you were there full-time, all of a don't really remember potentially uh-huh you know it's a good point yeah because you showed up there and your hair was the topic of conversation let alone if you were there every single we would like to see you there every single sunday as well now that we're

talking about it why don't you gain a work ethic a little please why don't you go there every single week oh no well i'm back i'm back i'm. I don't know what happened. I'm here. Son of a... Can't hear him. Can you hear anything? Oh, don't... You can hear me. Can you hear anything, AQ? I can't believe I fell for that damn trick.

I really can't. I'm disappointed in myself. I know you guys well enough by now. I know the show, and I still fell into the trap like a dunce. No, I mean, you're kind of on an island there. You have to fall for it. Yeah. If you don't, then you're not paying attention or listening.

That's why we're real assholes. Yeah. Because you have to fall for that, seemingly. You have to. What was the best moment of your guys' week? I'm fascinated. What was the best moment of your week in Vegas? It was the first night, but Ty and Pat ringing that siren,

it's real hard to beat that. The Las Vegas Golden Knights really, hey, they took care. How much of the city did you get to experience? Did you go to U2? Did you do that entire thing? No, I didn't go to U2. And it sounds like after your guys moved to U, it was probably. All right.

I'm sick of Adam Silver hearing about us. And obviously everybody else hearing about us. Like, yeah, we were the first people, I guess. And by we, I mean Ty really dove in. Because Ty was either hungover or drunk for five straight days. Yep. Which was a phenomenal play. And that's when you get the best Ty.

Exactly. That's when the best Ty is really. It's not sustainable. But if he could do that every day of the program, I think people would then finally watch our show. Which is what people were kind of saying about it. But we're not big U2 fans. We know their songs.

We're there for the Sphere, though, and U2 just so happens to be the host of the Sphere, almost. What we should have known is U2 is established enough, U2 has done enough. That's a U2 show, show and the sphere just so happens to be alongside you too like that is where i think we potentially got it wrong but on the flip side you two definitely got it wrong for the crowd that was there because there's nobody really singing alongside of it what did you get to do because i assume you went to all the events because you're i did the sphere um i did the

sphere i did the postcard from earth which was great i just wanted to experience the sphere sphere is insane as you guys know it was 50 minutes perfect in and out got to see the sphere experience it get out great um i friday night was probably friday night was probably my yeah i had done that before you guys asked me to come with to you too and that was kind of why i said like i, I got it. You did stiff arm us. Yeah. Remember? We invited him.

That was the right play. You did the right play. I didn't know if you remembered that phone call or not. So I'm glad you remembered it. Thank you. What are you talking about? What was that? It looked like it was a great, great night.

This guy's got the mind of an elephant. I mean, you did this. Truly great night. Yeah, it was great. Friday night for me was great. TJ was here, TJ's wife. And we went to our good friend, Sebastian Maniscalco. Um, Friday night for me was great. Um, TJ was here, TJ's wife. And, uh, we, we went to our good friend,

Sebastian Maniscalco. We went to his show at the win encore. And then after that, we went to Zach Bryant. Um, so it was kind of a cool one, two punch. That was the perfect quintessential Vegas. You get a comedian,

you get some good dinner at an Italian restaurant. And then we got to go see a concert. So kind of rolled it all in one. And then obviously Superbowl Sunday was pretty awesome. What'd you do early bedtime for Super Bowl Sunday on Saturday night would you prepare like it was an actual game how'd you get ready for that no um I I I don't mean this as any um I got no like it's a it's a you do your research you do everything but like I'm talking about football like it's it's talking about football. Like, I did not prepare.

Like, I mean, I read my notes, but I did not, like. I was at the hotel gym until night. I went to the hotel gym until 9 p.m. Until she closed. I closed it down the final night. Well, that's smart. How was Dana's gym? Did you get to go over there?

Yeah. It's truly insane. I mean, it's truly insane. Were you alone in there? Did you get to work out with The Rock? Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's truly insane. I mean, it's true. Were you alone in there? Did you get to work out with The Rock? Yeah. A hundred percent solo. No, I walked in. I, first of all, I had no idea what to expect. I literally, he was like, yeah, come over anytime today. And I actually showed up later than I thought. And I was like, I literally don't know if Dana's here, if Dana's not here, if I'm working out at the UFC Performance Center, if I'm working out at his personal gym. I have no clue. So I pulled up in the security gate. They let me in the front door.

And then his assistant meets me out front and says, come on up. Brings me up to his war room where they make all the fights. They got all the fights on the wall and everything. And he's like, hey, man, come on in. He shows me around the war room. And then he goes, here me take you take you in and he takes me into his personal office which is mind-blowing in its own right i mean he literally has a 1500 full samurai suit and three samurai swords in there with a saber-toothed tiger fossil yes just and just you're just like

all right where am i like what what's going? Then he takes you back through his closet. He has a full-blown closet with every shoe. Then through the closet is his personal weight room. It just opens up into a, I don't know, 3,000, 4,000-square-foot weight room. I don't know square feet, but it's very, very large. Then you go through that, and he's got his own full-blown personal spa. I'm talking like nicest hotel spa you've ever seen just for him. And he's got a cold tub.

He's got a steam room. He's got alkaline aligning beds. He's got the red light therapy. Look at this. Look at this spa. Like this is his personal spa. And then you walk through that and he's like here. And then this is my kitchen.

And then he's like, this is the kitchen. There's four chefs on staff. Just tell them what you want to eat and and he's like, here. And then this is my kitchen. And then he's like, this is the kitchen. There's four chefs on staff. Just tell them what you want to eat, and they'll make it for you. And I was like, this is just for you? Yeah, we just got this. I figured. Well, you got too much money. Yeah.

They told me I had this amount of money on an office, and this is how it ended up working out. But congrats to you. Whole place is yours now. Works out. Did you go through the closet and think about taking some? Dana, way to go. Hey, Dana, way to you. Whole place is yours now. Works out. Did you go through the closet and think about taking some? Dana, way to go. Hey, Dana, way to go.

It's got a nice setup, man. It's got a nice setup, yeah. And he was like, yeah, anytime you want to use it, come on. My gym is your gym. And, like, you know how that is. Like, I would use it every single day, but I'm not going to just be like, hey, here I am again. Look at me.

You should think about it. What did you order from the chefs? Did you get anything? Nothing. Nothing, dude. I felt so bad. I literally, I felt bad. I did my workout, and I got out of there.

Were you grunting in there? Did you do like a real workout? Did you like real, did we really? Yeah. I did. So this is messed up. This is how my head thinks, and maybe this is messed up of me. I assume he's got to have cameras in there somewhere.

I assume he's got cameras because cameras in there somewhere like i assume he's got cameras because it's he doesn't want people to steal shit so i felt like i had to perform during my workout like i i did some serious weights in that weight room because i didn't want him to think i was a punk so i was putting up real weights in that weight room dana white's watching a video back from the surveillance. He's like, I think Jim records. I think JJ just smashed all of the gym. And I had no spotter. It was just me, just me by myself. Trapped under a bar.

So I'm like, you're trapped under 505. That'd be awesome. So whenever we say you look small and your neck looks small, like you get very genuinely offended. Wow. You get genuinely offended. No, no, no, not at all. Like, I mean, I'm purposely losing weight.

So I'm not like, not much weight, but I'm purposely redistributing the calories. Well, you look good. The calories are going right into the hair. Yeah, it feels like it. It's fantastic. Let's get back to the game. D-Bud's got a question for you. Not as they need to come on your pod any time soon.

He just walked off Howie Mandel's pod. Did you see that? Is that real? I saw that. I saw that. Of course. Is that for shoot, brother? Was that a work? He didn't walk off your guys, Pod.

So it's great. He actually told us he loves being on pods. And then today we wake up to it. Did you guys ever gamble? We did not make it over. You two drained the energy out of the room. It killed us. I'll be honest.

And then on Thursday, the WWE presser took place. Yeah, and then it was a big get in where you fit in. Yeah, yeah. That was sleep. Yeah, bingo. Yeah, we took a sleep on Thursday. It felt very old. I actually sent a text to Dana like 4 a.m. local time because I passed out at like 7.

He had sent a nice voice memo, you know, saying, hey, what's going on? Big voice memos, yeah. Yeah, he sent me a voice memo. It was very kind of him, and I just responded, I fell asleep at 7. Wild decision. Missed everything. Sorry about it. Whoops.

And then we just moved along. He would have made us probably $120,000. Yeah, probably. I guess that's how it goes. You go gamble with him, it's like, yeah, you're going to make your money. It's absurd. That's how it's going to go. Did you do that?

Did you do that? Did you go? No, I did not. I have heard insights into how it works, and everybody wins. Everybody wins. It's pretty awesome. It is. Awesome.

I think we need to do it. I would like to go work out there at the gym. I want to get definitely – you see the pedicure set up there? Yeah, it's very nice. I mean, four chefs. I'm ordering something to eat too. Yeah, before the workout. By the way. During the workout.

What would you order, man? Like, I was like – I'm staring. Chicken parm. I want chicken parm. Omelette. Filet. Yeah. And then I just grabbed the water and walked out.

I felt so bad. Like, I was like – Did you cold tub and all that and do the red light and all that, everything? Yeah, I did all that. It was great. I mean, it is a great setup. So you did go into the spa? Yeah? Yeah, I did all that. It was great. I mean, it is a great setup. So you did go into the spa? Yeah.

No, I did the cold tub, the alkaline bed, and the red light beds. Was he okay with you just broadcasting this all to the world? Yeah, I assume you had to ask him. I asked. I asked him. Because he's obviously clearly proud of it, as you should be. I mean, the place is insane. And I was like, dude, this place is absolutely nuts. do you mind if i share this because this is this the world needs

to see this yeah no problem absolutely man did you hear it pk subban yesterday did you hear this at all six days a week he's retired right now six days a week he's getting a 90-minute massage. What? That's got to be counterintuitive. I mean, that's like the Wagyu beef in Japan. Baby cows? What do you mean? Don't they massage those cows every single day? Oh, yeah, they're tender.

They got deep tissue. That's why the restaurant we went to, it was $820 for 12 ounces of Wagyu beef. I soaked them in Epsom. Man, 90-minute massage every single day. Do you do a different body part every day? I mean, 90 minutes on one body part. And then he does a 45-minute hot bath afterwards with Epsom salt every day.

Six out of seven days of the week he's doing this. I mean, that's what – man, this is terrible math. Two hours, 15 minutes every single day, gone, right out of the gate. Plus an hour and a half workout beforehand, and he potentially adds boxing. Yep. Sweet life. Sweet life. Self-improvement every day hey i think dana dana doesn't even do that he's literally a full spa in his office pk's got life

figured out yeah it does appear darius got a question for you but yeah let me ask you about uh we talked about the refs kind of staying out of we had gene on on friday he talked about kind of the refs and they're looking for, not the minnows. But as a former great pass rusher, how do you feel about the lack of holding calls? I think Connor said last three Super Bowl the Chiefs have played in zero holding calls. I know a lot of people were talking about Micah Parsons barely

getting any calls this year. I'm sure your brother Miles Garrett, all these guys deal with the same type of shit. How do you see that, I guess, as a former pass rusher and then objectively as a fan of the game? Would you prefer to stay that way? Or how do you see it, I guess, as a former pass rusher and then objectively as a fan of the game? Would you prefer to stay that way? Or how do you see it on both sides? Yeah, as a pass rusher, it is extremely frustrating.

I mean, there's no question that every great pass rusher in the game is having holding calls missed on them multiple times. You definitely do have situations where they are holds holds but you know you're not going to get the call and then you have situations where they are holds and you know you got screwed and should have gotten the call and you did so there's two different ones and it is getting a little bit harder and harder to discern them but like when you're watching on tv you know with all these slow motion replays and everything there's a lot of times where fans are complaining like that was a hold. And as an NFL pass rusher, you know, you're never going to get that call. You're like, okay, if I rip into him, a lot of times I'm not going to get that call. The refs have been told if he rips into a hold, don't give it to him.

Or a lot of times if you're double teamed and they're holding you, which they do, the refs say if they commit two to one guy, they're not giving you that hold. Same thing. Like I've seen the post one going around like if you spin into if you spin into a hole or if you go straight down the middle of a guy and he has you but you're chest to chest they're not calling that like it has to be outside of the body where a guy is literally pulling you and it's like a way for his body it's and it sucks yeah because it's it's very difficult to do um but i learned by the end of my career, what they were going to call them, what they weren't. And I only went to the ref and talked to him or had a conversation.

If it was one that I, that I thought, and what I think is the answer because I think refs understand that a 10 yard penalty is a massive penalty in the NFL. So I think if you made holding a five yard penalty, I think it is going to be called much more fairly and much more realistically because it's not as crippling to the offense. Man, I've been pitching that for a few years because it is. Because you

can call it on every single play, and then first and 20. Done. That's it. You're punting. You're immediately punting. It's just, it doesn't seem to make sense, especially because defense holding's five. So, like, what are we even doing here? Speaking of defenses and being held, A.Q. Shipley's got a question for you. Yeah, J.J., so obviously you watched the D-line, right?

Nick Bosa had ten pressures. There was plenty of times where he could have taken the inside move and probably got a sack and done all this other stuff, but I thought he was really disciplined with his rush, kind of doing this, and then making sure he kept contained. What were your thoughts on his game? Obviously, he didn't have the stats that he was looking for, but 10 pressures is a big number.

Yeah, he played well. I mean, he played well. It's very tough. I thought about this in the Super Bowl in general. As soon as the Chiefs win the Super Bowl, automatically people are going to be like, oh, Brock Purdy can't win this, or oh, the 49ers did this. You can play good, play very good, and lose a football game.

It just so happens to be the most watched telecast in history, and it just so happens to be the biggest game in the world, and it just so happens to be the biggest prize you could lose. But you can play good football and still lose a game. Yes, there's things you can do differently, and yes, there's things you can want back. But I don't think the 49ers played a bad game by any means. I think that the chiefs just

played better right at the end and i i mean you look at it now and especially in hindsight but with the research and everything i mean taking the ball at the beginning of overtime probably was not the right decision so i mean that's okay there's a take from jj watt your take is for uh is that i think you're viewing it more like college overtime rules now with the way the playoff rules are set up because you're going to get your shot anyways. Now, if it gets to a third possession, cool, but what do the stats tell you about a third possession when Patrick Mahomes is on the other side?

And the only time it gets to a third possession and it matters is if they were both field goals because the Chiefs said they were going to go for two if they got the ball in the second possession. So either way, it was going to be over after two possessions unless it was field goal, field goal. So then you have to factor that into play because then it shifts the NLAs completely. The third drive doesn't matter if they said they were going to go for two. Yeah, but then Niners maybe go for two.

There's just so many conversations about, like, if you execute, who cares? Niners take ball first. If they go down and score a touchdown there's a whole different pressure obviously maybe momentum vibes everything like that that is a conversation and obviously the game plays how it is but yeah i do think though like preparing for that and and there are teams that do prepare extremely hard for every single possible situation that comes up. And sometimes it does get monotonous. Sometimes it does get, you know, you get bored with it. And you're like, we practice these NASCAR field goal scenarios a thousand times.

And it's never come up once in three years. Well, you know, one time it comes up, it's important. Hey, we practice these overtime playoff rules in training camp. And that's all the way, you the way four or five months away. Why are we practicing that now? Well, because when that situation comes up, you're going to be prepared and ready to handle it. There's teams that have refs video every single week

explaining what the refs are focusing on that week, explaining what this ref called last week, how they called the game. So I do think that sometimes those meetings can get a little monotonous, but in the biggest moments on the biggest days, they certainly paid off here. Yeah, and you heard all the Chiefs players come out and be like, Andy Reid has gone through exactly what we're going to do with the playoff rules in overtime,

just making him look like a genius coach, like everything fantastic. And then on the other side, Juszczyk was like, oh, I didn't know those rules. It's like, whoa. Don't say that, man. Just don't say it. Just don't say it. I don't know what the benefit of saying that you didn't know that was rules it's like whoa don't say that man just don't say it just don't say it like yeah i don't know what the benefit of saying that you didn't know the rules was like that

doesn't make anybody here look good go ahead aj jj so you said you went to the zach bryan concert on friday there's a video from i don't know how many years ago you demolished some poor guy at a zach brown band concert i believe on stage can you let us know exactly what happened there? AJ thinks that was fake. I didn't say that. I think it's fake, too. I mean, is wrestling fake? I mean, what do you mean? Whoa!

Whoa! Shut your mouth. Watch it. It was a great time, man. Zach Brown's been a friend for a very long time. Saved his life, obviously. That was a great. What does that guy expose his ribs?

That was a poor decision. I'll give you the real story behind it. So that guy is the soundboard operator for Zach Brown Band. So we were behind the stage, and he's a big Alabama fan, and I was a Wisconsin fan Wisconsin and we were playing Alabama that year in the first game of the season I believe it was and we were just messing around backstage having some drinks Zach was playing some music and um we were like why don't we do something fun here because it was in Wisconsin and so the guy was like why don't you why don't I pretend

to be a fan and storm the stage and you're Zach security you you tackle me. And I was like, Hey man, like, I'm gonna be honest with you. You're going to get hurt. I'm just going to let you know. And so I said, so we took a video. I still have the video. I don't know where it is, but I have the video on one of my phones and it's, I took a video with him and I said, I am going to talk to you on the stage. You will not hold me liable for anything that happens with this back on key on the video said, I will not hold JJ reliable for anything that happens on the stage on. He, on the video, said, I will not hold J.J. Watt liable for anything that happens on the stage. So we do it. The crowd goes nuts.

It was bananas. Everybody, nobody knows if it's real or fake. Turns out, he broke a rib. Yeah. Oh, no. You broke his rib. Yeah, he didn't break it. No, he broke a rib.

No, you broke his rib. Now, you're not liable for that, but... Your shoulder did. I'm not liable for any of it. I mean, you're just so big, too. So, I appreciate that soundboard operator's like, why don't you not be a bitch? Why don't you tackle me a little bit?

You go form tackle there. Obviously, Zach says, J.J. Watt, everybody. And the place goes bananas. What a moment. That's what, hey, that was when the J.J. Watt won it. That was during the. Yeah, some people didn't like that. Yeah, some people were like, oh, look at this guy.

Yeah, well, guess what, man? That's how shit goes. People are on board. People are on board. When they hop off, they hop off. Why do you think people want to make the Chiefs villains now? Like, I'm sure it'll happen. People got mad at Travis for his haircut thing,

and he didn't even say anything about it. Well, listen, that's the world at the top, but for you, what do people expect? J.J. Watt. Hey, do you want to go on stage during Zac Brown, who's one of the greatest musicians of all time, and you want to tackle somebody, and then Zac say, hey, shout out to J.J. Watt. Are you supposed to say

no to that? I don't understand how you're supposed to say no to that stuff. You'd be a bigger douchebag if you said no to that, I think. And that kind of gets lost in the entire thing. But you've lived, obviously, a life of blah, blah, blah. Like this, both publicly and personally. Your brother's kind of in the

middle of it right now. Everything he does is being talked about. Tone's got a question for you. Yeah, JJ, I looked at the film and I looked at the stats, and I'd say you're a top five rusher of all time in the NFL. So I want your opinion. I don't know if Micah Parsons agrees if you're top five all time or not after he's looked at the film.

For sure he's looked at the film and the stats, saying one thing one day, one thing the next. He said your brother, who I think he played hooky because he is in a top five pass rusher in the league right now to the NFL honors on Thursday night. What's your thoughts on your brother played hooky because he isn't a top five pass rusher in the league right now. It's the NFL honors on Thursday night. What's your thoughts on your brother playing hooky? Okay. He didn't go to the NFL honors.

He didn't win defense player of the year. Should have. And Mike is saying he's not a top five pass rusher in the NFL right now. Good question. This is journalism. Answer him, JJ, with your new hair. And make sure you watch the film. Okay?

And the stats. Yep, and the stats. But not the stats. But not the stats. And the stats. But definitely not the stats. But look at the stats. Bingo.

Yeah. So I think the internet handled that properly. I think that it was handled appropriately. I mean, that's what we're dealing with, man. That's what we're dealing with, man. That's what we're dealing with. Was it your idea not for him to go to the honors? Hold on. It feels like quiet mouth, loud mind.

What's going on over here? You don't got to say everything. You don't got to say everything. I've said all the stuff I need to say about it. I've said everything. I said what I wanted to say about it. I've said everything I've put. I mean, it's – I said what I wanted to say about it. Like, it's – there is nothing against any – there's a ton of great pass rushers in this league.

There's a ton of great defensive players in this league. There's a ton of great talent in this league. And none of it is anything to do with any of them. Everybody is great. I'm not saying that anybody else is not great. I'm just simply looking at the literal facts. And's still just boggles my mind and that's. Did Rod call him and say, hey, we need you at NFL honors? Um no. No, I mean, I would like, why would he be there? What

what do you need? What do you need to be there for? So, he knew he wasn't going to win before the award show. Wait, what? Yes, correct. That comes out before the award show. Are you shitting me? What are we talking about? What are we even doing? That's the shit. What do you mean? You guys find out beforehand? When did you know you were a defense player of the year all those times?

You were a defense player of the year. The day of? When they call your name, right? I mean, when I finished the season because I was the best. Fair, fair. Yeah, that's good work. So you weren't surprised when they called your name? So TJ said I'm not the best at the end of the season. You said I'm not the best?

I'm not going to the NFL? No, I mean, no. I mean, there's like. Oh, he's friends. You're getting thrown over the lodge right now. Oh, no. This is a fake. Oh, no.

JJ's connection is unstable. This is wrong. Oh, wow. Wait a minute. Hey, don't be giving away NML, I don't know what you're talking about People are betting on these things pal When do they know I wonder I thought when they read the envelope Yeah me too

But now that we're in a different time now We just learned I thought Zach Brown was real This thing sucks The only thing that's real anymore is that The bloodline is stronger than it's ever been We just learned. I thought Zach Brown was real. I thought that was. This thing sucks. Tony Zach Brown. The only thing that's real anymore is that the bloodline is stronger than it's ever been with the Rock and the Road. And Cody's going to finish his damn story. We don't know about that.

I hope. I don't know about that. You think Kelly Rhodes is going to beat Roman Reigns to finish his story? In my heart of hearts, I know the American nightmare has what it takes. So T.J. Watt. Why? Immediately upon finding out he was going to go to Woody, he said, I'm not going to sit through this terrible award.

Why, Woody? It's Vegas. I wish they would have told me whenever we were in that college football awards. See, I knew. Yeah, because your award was given the night before. Yep. So it was nice. I knew I was going there to.

See, for me, I wasn't told. Like, hey, you're going to go sit incredibly uncomfortably in a very tight theater in a stupid clown suit with your mom and your dad who take time off of work to come do this. You're going to have to listen to, no offense, Tim Tebow give six speeches. Too many. Bowden give four speeches. Too many. And then you're going to lose.

It would have been nice to give me a heads up like, hey, come down for the festivities, but we're not going to make you eat your knees in this theater for four hours while everybody else gets to celebrate and you just get shown and then you have to clap and be a good person. Have our night. Leave the next morning. Boom. I did college football award show. We did it.

Joining us now, J.J. Watt who has the answers. When did T.J. find out? NFL cut me off. They did? They did. Turned off my mic. So T.J. said, I'm not sitting through a stupid award show as soon as he found out he wasn't winning this thing? I mean, there's no reason for him to be there. Yeah, he didn't win.

What are you going to do? Are you going to sit in the crowd? Support your brothers. Support your NFL brothers. There was no other Steelers there. Cam Hayward won the Walter Payne Mania. No, no, that was a different night. Cam won the most prestigious.

No, I mean, what, are we mad at him for being frustrated? Like, no, he should be frustrated. Yeah, I don't blame him whatsoever for being frustrated. If he wins next year, he's not going to go? Can't go. I mean, we've seen how that pattern goes. Like, what does he got to do? 50 sacks?

What do you want? Oh, you're saying it's going to be impossible for TJ? Mike Mazzardi chose to win for next year, so it doesn't matter. Yeah, it is what it is, man. I truly don't want to take away from any of the other players. That's not what I'm here to do. I think Miles is an unbelievable player. I think he's a great, great football player.

So I don't want to take away from him at all. We don't have to put him down. Thank you, JJ. Wow. Thank you, JJ. Connor's got a question for you, JJ. That was really nice, JJ. And also, let me just say, your shirts all year have been incredible.

I like that you mailed it in for the last one after the Super Bowl, though, and you wore a sweatshirt. That was fantastic. Looking at the game as a whole on the defensive side, though, it felt like Wilks and Spaggs obviously both had pretty good games, 19 points at the end of four quarters for both those offenses. Pretty unbelievable. But for you on the defensive side, what was kind of the biggest moment of the game?

Obviously people are talking about the overtime pressure from Chris Jones so that Jennings doesn't get that first down on the out route. But when you're watching, what to you was the moment where it was like, ooh, that's going to be the play that wins them this game? Yeah, I mean, I think there's two really big ones in that second half. I would say the fumble on the punt, you know, the punt hitting his leg, that's massive. You can't give Patrick Mahomes the ball inside the 20-yard line. You just can't do that.

It's just, like we said at half, you know, a mistake is going to change this game. And that is such a gigantic mistake to give Patrick Mahomes a ball in that situation when you're leading. And now here he is, third quarter, two minutes left, and he's going to be able to go in there and score. And then the third down with about two minutes left, two minutes, 30 seconds left, where Trent McDuffie came free on a blitz, I would say that was a massive one where if the 49ers get that first down they're able to waste so much

clock and they're able to um i mean possibly just take that thing in and and maybe go down score win the game so i think that uh one of the things that happened here is spags is so good at using these dbs and the dbs are so good at executing what he wants them to do. McDuffie really waited until the last possible second so that they had to pick up everybody else in the blitz, and then he just came scot-free right up the B gap and bats the ball down on his way in. I mean, that's an unbelievable play.

Talking to some of the Chiefs players during this week, what Spaggs does with those guys is so incredible. He puts so much trust in them to make the right decisions from a coverage standpoint depending on the formation the offense comes out in depending on what they want to do individually i was talking to justin reed and he said that there could be four or five different coverages based on how they come out of the huddle and then within each individual player there could be two or three different things you could do within those four

or five coverages. The Spags trust them to figure it out. It's thoroughly impressive. That's why I'm a D lineman, man. Just tell me where, where's the ball. Go get it.

That was even a massive part of it though. You know, uh, lane integrity and this gap discipline is a big part of it all. Uh, we'll, we'll be breaking down that play on in the trenches later. And I think also everything DB about how the, they had kiddo i believe offset to the right and then they also send the offensive line to the

right because the chiefs showcase that they're coming that way and then boom make they got a two for one on the right side and then mcduffie comes scott free on the other side so like they legitimately confuse the protection for the niners on the biggest play of the game like obviously they pick up that third and four right there. They milk the clock. They kick the field goal. They win the game. Instead, classic Spag's defense, a little bit of how you doing,

keep it moving from the other way. They get a two for one. Like, that is – that's brilliant football. That's brilliant, brilliant football on the defensive side. This is a thing that I think we talk about sometimes with the Chiefs that we don't necessarily talk about all the time. So, Andy Reid obviously going to be back calling the plays for the offense. Spaggs just signed the extension, coming back for the defense. And think about this, because I was talking with some people about this,

and sometimes you get the argument that the teams that play in the Super Bowl have less time to rest and recover in the offseason and then rebuild for next season because they played an extra month of football. Possibly true. On the flip side of that, think about how many extra month of football. Possibly true. On the flip side of that, think about how many extra practices the Chiefs have had together. Think about how many extra games the Chiefs have had together. Think about how many extra scenarios and experiences they've gone through together and worked through over the last six years when

they've been going to the AFC Championship or the Super Bowl every single year. You know, you go with Malcolm Gladwell's 10,000 hours. had those 10 000 hours in just the playoffs alone whereas there's so many teams that season ends January 9th and boom everybody's out spread out not playing football anymore not working you know you're doing your own individual workouts but these guys are getting actual football reps it's like a full-blown spring practice for them on their way to the Super Bowl and now you accumulate all those hours year after year, and they're much more closer as a team. They're much more experienced.

They have that many more reps. I mean, I think that helps play into it. That sucks. That sucks. You know, we have a take on this particular program for a couple years now. We think teams come together better a lot more around a keg than they do kale. And these Super Bowl parades, you know, it's almost like their team grows tighter.

You talk about them remaining consistent with the OC and the DC and the special teams coordinator, locked in, Tobe, Spags, and Reed, and here we go. We're running. But they also get a moment seemingly every single year where they get to celebrate life with each other. This photo of Willie Gay, he's done in the middle of the parade. No.

Shirtless, jacked, shoeless, with a bottle of Hennessy laughing his ass off. Like, you don't think, look at this guy. He is not dead. He is A-OK. He is not dead. So jacked. He's sweating too with the sun. I mean, just so, that guy's a linebacker.

Look at his face. That guy played the same exact position as aj hawk good call i don't know what the uh the weather is but it is beautiful like you don't think this team comes together around that man looks like a statue oh yeah yeah it's 60 and sunny 60 sunny the football god's blessing with a perfect day but it's like there's videos now coming out of Travis Kelsey chugging beers and drinking tequila. And then Tommy Townsend and Matt Nagy dancing. Like that brings.

Oh, yeah. You know, like position groups try to have a dinner each week. Or, you know, like an offense will try to get together like once a year to like have a moment. Or a quarterback will host a party. And in those times, like when you're drinking together, having fun, you learn a lot about each other. You trust each other more almost whenever you're drinking together, having fun, you learn a lot about each other. You trust each other

more, almost, whenever you're kind of having those moments. In this team, a lot of them are coming back. A lot of them have had numerous ones of these. So when you're looking at somebody, it's not just a co-worker. It's not just a teammate. It's like, oh, that's fake. Hey, remember you were, hey, Willie, you remember you were shirtless

with a hat. You remember, like, that is, you know, like, it only helps the team. We're sitting in the middle of this Kansas City Chiefs era, and then let alone that's your leader. That's the quarterback. What a dog. What an absolute dog. Drinking Coors Lattes, shirtless with a bomber jacket on.

Mohawk's doing it. Yep. Yeah, he needs to not cut his hair. I don't know what he's thinking about there. I mean, they're never going to lose. He just wants to. Yeah, he wants to cut it, hair. I don't know what he's thinking about there. I mean, they're never going to lose. He just – It sucks. Yeah, he wants to cut it, but he knows, like, hey,

there's never going to be a point where we're losing where I should cut it. I never got to do one of those parades. I heard the one in Indianapolis was awesome. You'd be sweet at it, I bet. I think I would. I think I would perform very well. Pretty good. Pretty good on the mic.

Pretty good on the mic. Well, also boozing. Pretty good. Pretty solid boozer and chugger. Going to have to own a team someday, boys. Yep. Gonna have to own a team someday. That's the only way we get back into this. We'll make that happen. It's been a fun Wednesday. Commissioner of the

NBA stopped by. J.J. Wopper on his hair. We'll be back tomorrow. Two more days until the Celebrity All-Star game and All-Star weekend, and then we'll be off for a few weeks. Let's enjoy the hell out of it. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It it might change their life we'll see you tomorrow goodbye didn't even let you it up you know why because you didn't wear a shirt that's why it was so up i actually today was like you know what i saved shirts for the you know the super bowl

week and a couple for the week after i just assumed in my head like jj's best shirt is coming today see i thought about it. But what would you go with in this situation? I actually have a couple of gold ones that I haven't used this year. So I have – There you go. One of those. Go change.

You at the house right now? Big house. I'm at the house right now. Yeah, you take back two hours. Go do a two-mile run to the bedroom. I got the Rudy Letterman jacket from Rudy. Dude. I have the Talladega Knights race suit from Ricky Bobby.

Oh, my God. Stop telling us. Stop telling us. Why are you saying this shit? That was the one. Prick. It was just like sometimes I was like I can't. The internet's got you down.

It's so distracting. The internet's got you done. Wow. Because you are bummed out because all the hair talk. You were scared to show up in the Talladega nights. I didn't want to do the hair and the shirt. I didn't want to double down on it. See, the internet got to you.

That's soft, JJ. Always double down. I would wear a hat if I was down about it. I did the hair again on purpose. No, Burnley. Yeah, but that was you like, I'm going to show them, but let's not do too much. Yeah, I don't want to wear a shirt and offend anybody and get them all mad at me again. Man, don't let these people get you.

Come on. You're bowing down. J.J. Watt. J.J. Watt. J.J. Watt. J.J. Watt. J.J. Watt. J.J. Watt. J.J. Watt. J.J. Watt. He said there's no cameras in this gym, and we're welcome to use it any time.

So I'm very, thank you, Dana. I appreciate that. Who's we? We all of us? We all are? You were, I was, if it wasn't during the show, we were going to do it together, but it was right during the show. To be honest, I said I only had four drinks the entire time I was in Vegas.

That is an accurate number. I had 2,000 milligrams probably. You think? At least. 2,500? That's not enough. Maybe 3,000? Of both vitamins and mucinex. I think it was 10,000. They all just taste so good. They do have good flavor. That U2 one, bud, every four minutes

I'm like, alright, I gotta get to a point where I'm enjoying this. And all of a sudden you look around and you're like, am I in the sphere right now? Did you watch the stage at all, or was it just pure screen? Yeah, buddy, I watched it all. I watched... He had a balloon.

There was a door on the stage. And then nothing came out of it. You guys were in a suite, so maybe not, but did you guys have any experiences with the staircases? Because, I mean, somebody is going to bust their ass on those stairs. So we looked up and we saw them. And a pretty steep incline on those things.

A little bit. Yeah, very, very steep. Somebody pops some milligrams there, and they're going to be flying right down at the Grateful Dead. Just as a full asshole, now that this has become a big deal, you know, with the whole conversation about us thinking like, hey, you're not doing it right. Dude, you too.

You too has been around long. One of the most successful groups of all time. The new era. One of the most great. The music's on every iPhone on the planet. Just like that, which also, I went in there thinking about like, alright, these people, a little bit too much plugged in maybe. It feels like maybe dropped into this whatever, handed out

opportunities. But they've worked for it, obviously. They've worked incredibly hard. And they do their thing. And they have a few bangers. We didn't hear any of them. None of them. We left early, two and a half hours in. I guess if we would have stayed four or five hours, it would have came at one point, which we're appreciative of. But yeah, I would like to put a show

on in there. Like, you know, Dana, I think Dana had the same thought whenever he was there. So you say did i look at the stage or anything oh yeah but i was looking at fucking everything i'm like how you got to make the most of this like his bonos there's so much to do in there like so i've heard that's i've heard that's part of i mean obviously daniel was talking about but i've heard that's part of the the issue is that you have to have all the technological people to create it because it's obviously not a standard video board so you have to have hundreds of engineers to figure out how to build your show for that specific one and that's the expense that not everybody can

take on and i assume there's some coding that has to happen with the seats and everything like oh yeah the rumbles yeah yeah those did For the postcard from Earth, did they have those? Yeah, it was awesome. And the wind? Did you have the wind that blows up on your face? No wind from Bono! What? What'd you say, AJ? There was like, yeah, I don't know.

The speakers were really good, so I'm not sure when the crowd was singing along, I couldn't really figure it out where it was coming from. I don't know what triggered the rumbles either because we only got about two of them. They came out of nowhere. But they came real random. They were coming real hard.

It was when he knocked on the door. It was when he knocked on it. He looked in the peephole. We were looking out. Don't forget, we were on the other side of the door. Can you imagine if the wind blew that balloon away and blew all over us? I thought he was going to fucking ride the balloon. We're not getting into this again.

We can't. We're not getting into this again. Jason, stop it this is four or five straight days we're not doing this again i just bought it we got so much respect for everything you've accomplished so much so much how is that you remember when you told me uh speaking of milligrams you remember when we were talking having that conversation and you were like yeah we'll give you like 200, 250 milligrams, you'll be great. Internet has pretty clearly told me that that would be a large mistake. A large mistake. Why is that?

I got a lot of people looking out for me on that one. No, no. If we just give you 250 at one time, that'd be a problem. But if we – I think that's how they took it. I think that's how they took it. I think that's how they took it. That's probably how it was going to go, too. But if we were to brainstorm and go in a different fashion,

it would have been a nice little ride to the top. A nice little ride to the top, which is where we headed to. Vegas was awesome. It was. It was incredible. Not like you two, obviously, we've harped on it. That was the only negative. Everything else was incredible. They like you two, obviously, we've harped on it. That was the only negative. Everything else was incredible.

They handled it so well. The city was great for it because, I mean, every single hotel has all of its phenomenal restaurants. It's got plenty of entertainment. It's set up to handle the Super Bowl so well. It was great. I just realized next year. We have breaking news from the Kansas City Chiefs Super Bowl Parade.

Travis Kelsey is currently riding Creed Humphrey's shoulders. Dog. Okay, through the middle of the street. Normally on buses and things like that, we've seen Patrick Mahomes walk. We've seen Willie Gay laid out shirtless and shoeless. Now we see Travis Kelsey riding center. The large man. All pro Creed Humphrey's shoulders through the streets of Kansas City.

That's what it's all about, JJ. That's what it's all about. That team what it's all about, JJ. That's what it's all about. That team loves it. Travis went to the crowd, and this person had a Jason Kelsey from the Bills game cut out shirtless, but without the head. So then Travis took the cut out and put it on his body and then chugged a beer.

They're having a good time. Living. They're doing it right. They're doing it right. Yes, they are. You know what, guys? I should have played a little better and we should have won Super Bowl. I had say over that. Yes, they are. You know what, guys? I should have played a little better and we should have won Super Bowl. Oh, yes. I had say over that. People hate that guy, dude.

Think about it, how much fun he is enjoying his life. I love you. He's an Ohio fuck, both of them. Him and Jason Kelsey, just so happen to be incredible football players, is through it all. He's become one of the most famous humans on earth. And he's got pit vipers on. Chugging beers in the middle of the streets of Kansas City.

Hey, stay true to you, Trav. Keep doing it. Stay true to you, Trav. We appreciate that. He is a dog. All right, JJ. I guess this is it. Man.

I'm going to be in your estate, I think, soon. Are you going to be there? You travel so much. When are you coming? I don't want to give you the exacts, but next week. Yeah, go to that secret. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'll be here next week.

I'll be here next week. I got to film a Miller Lite commercial quick on Tuesday and Wednesday, but I'll be here. Lattes? Miller Lite? We got Ball Town. We got What It Takes. We got Miller Lite movie coming out.

Let's go, JJ. Any hair product? Hey, any hair company? That feels like that's sitting right there. Hair stuff? Tresame, perhaps? They have reached out. They have reached out.

Toothpaste? Who? Toothpaste is good. I don't know. I just know they've reached out. I was just told we got a lot of incoming from the hair department. hair department got to be a lot of incoming from oh yeah what's that big spray big hair i think is what's going on has some great problems i mean i'd really love to just do a throwback to like uh what was it like uh la looks or that was whatever that super gel

whatever that super gel was that didn't hold your hair up at all. That's what the whites used to do. That's literally what the whites used to do. Like Pauly D. Did you ever have the one where you only spike up the front? I mean, it's happening right now. Yes, yes. When you have like a – you have 1,000 calyx, I assume, through the back of your hair?

Oh, a billion, yeah. Yeah, me too. So there's only like the the sloppy spike i had that probably from the ages uh 14 to about 20 something probably 20 or so so i've been where you are then i just gradually i use a blow dryer now i use blow dryer to kind of get it under control so i don't have to do that but yeah i when i saw your hair i was like that's a really good sloppy spike. And then I saw the internet say a little bit too much spike.

They're saying you look like you. Yeah, let the guy live. If he wants 50 spikes on his head, let him do it. It's good, brother. It's very nice of us. It's great. I mean, anytime Guy Fieri shouts you out and says you got great hair, I mean, you're doing something

right. Yeah, you're right. Not only him, Mark McGrath, too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the spiked hair club came out of the woodwork, and I appreciate them all. You're a part of them, though. Yeah, you're the leader. You're the face.

I guess, yeah. I guess I am a part of them. What were you going to say, D. Butch? I know you've been in the world with soccer, the soccer world, for a few days. But how's Burnley doing? No hat today. Obviously, he wanted to show off the hair.

But how's the club doing? Yeah. We have a big match against Arsenal I mean oh boy are they we got a rough little run here we got a rough Liverpool um Gump I mean I know you watched it yeah we had a great great start I thought we had a great chance we had a couple massive opportunities to start the second half and then uh just a couple blunders, man. But I actually thought we played really well. You guys did play really well. It was there for the taking for a minute. Yeah, so what's going on with Burnley?

We're getting relegated? No. I mean, there's a lot of season left. I mean, there's a lot of season left. Just be real. Just be real. We definitely, I mean, we definitely as a board prepare for that scenario

because it's malpractice. We are prepared for it. But we're still, we're absolutely fighting extremely hard. We're going to see what happens here. I mean, Arsenal this weekend, obviously tough. If we can pull a point or a result out of that, it would be great. And then we have a run of games where we need to get results. When do you run, when do you move to England?

Near the end of the month. Let's rally the boys. Yeah, we need this. Yeah, let's rally the boys. Make you play. Set her back. If we're going to lose, who cares? Might as well make it a spectacle. That head.

Their goalie. Burley's goalie is very good. I'm not talking about goalie. I don't give a... Put you right up there at striker. Let's run a... They would flop so much, though. Everybody flop. Let's run a 4-5-1. Just have you sitting up at the top. Like Peter Cech.

Obviously, my wife's a professional soccer player. During COVID, I was her training partner. I thought during that time that I could play and I learned I couldn't. The other time I thought I could play and I learned I couldn't was I did a Gatorade commercial with a 13-year-old girls' soccer team, and they put me out there with them, and I was like, I mean, guys, this isn't going to be fair.

I'm going to score a bunch of goals. It's going to be fun. I got absolutely destroyed. I mean, it was embarrassing. They were running around me. I thought just toss it up in the middle of the box and head it. I couldn't even figure out the timing of how to head it and shit. It was a rough day for my confidence.

I'll tell you that. Well, I mean, you never played. You played hockey instead of soccer. It's a little bit different. But if you guys are going to lose, you might as well make it a spectacle. Sure, fuck it. You guys got any soccer players over there? We got any soccer players in the studio here? If you guys are going to lose, you might as well make it a spectacle. Fuck it. You know? Asses and seats. You guys got any soccer players over there?

We got any soccer players in the studio here? AQ. Gumpy. Gump, she's a player back in the day. Yeah, I could run around the middle of the park, spray the ball around. I wouldn't be able to pass any of the tests, but I could give you a good four or five minutes. I'd give you probably a good five minutes. I'll get a red card.

You give me a free kick, I'll probably put it in. Sometime down the line, we'll have to test that out. When you guys are in the F League, when's that? Two years. If you get relegated... They'll get relegated again next year. Whoa.

If they go down, they'll bounce right back. This summer, sometime, we'll find a way to get a Burnley squad against a McAfee squad, and we'll figure it out. Well, I think there's a potential opportunity for that to take place in the United States of America on his turn. Could you imagine if he just side volume, boom,

and then probably pulling out, pre-roll, lighting that thing up, taking a couple of the peptides I'm on. A couple of sockets. Spitting right in your face. I failed all your tests. Did I score a goal? Give me high sports. Can you give me a rundown on the peptides?

I'd love to hear some more information on the peptides. So I don't think I fully understand them. I just know that you take them and they make you stronger, faster, more fit. So I don't know. But it's not steroids. No. No, you can stay on them forever. Steroids are bad for you. That's what I've been told.

I literally have never done any research on peptides, but I've heard multiple people talking about them now, and I'm fascinated, and I want to hear more. So this Affinity Whole Health Company, I don't know where they're from. I'm talking to the people in Ohio. I saw Bobby Carpenter, right? So Bobby Carpenter, I don't know what his full operation is,

but he puts over Affinity all the time. And I was like, for this football season, I'm going to need something. We got game day. We got this. We got that. We got season, I'm going to need something. We got game day. We got this. We got that. We got that. I'm going to need something to stay in shape because I'm not the most disciplined

when it comes to eating. I am going to work out, but I would like to have a little bit of a help. You know, like, what are all these rich people doing? That's basically what I was like. What are all these rich people doing to be able to continue to have the juice? And I don't fuck with Adderall.

Like, I get a lot of people that are brand new to the operation. Like, this guy's Adderall-ed out of his mind. It's like, nope, hate it. Can't do it. Actually complete opposite. Hate what it does to my brain. If you watch our show, we're pretty much like this. Adderall made me a little bit too focused. Probably needed it, but I

don't want to be part of it. So I started talking to these affinity people. We drew blood. They did a full test. Like, we think we give this. We'll help with this. This will help with this. This will help with this. Just these tiny little, I think they're available in like five states. I'm not 100% sure. And I think there's other places.

Like out in Arizona, there's a bunch. There's a bunch of stuff out there. Dana too. What about Dana's got a crew? Is Braca do peptides? Is Florida? Yeah. I don't know what he does.

Yeah, he does. It's like these super pharmas almost. It's like super science. Every time I say, like, I got science running through me right now, it's like, legit, I just got science running through me. I don't think I'd be able to pass any tests, but I haven't really looked into that. But it has certainly helped me in my body.

Am I going to die at, like, the age of 40 now? I don't think so. That's not what I – talk to a doctor, the whole thing. It's been cool. It's been a wild ride, to be honest with you. It's been a very wild ride. Yeah. No, I'm fascinated. I'm going to do some research and learn more about it because like i said i've heard a few people talk about it now and i'm always trying to you know learn about everything that's out there i've always wondered like we've talked about before

you know cold tub sauna things like that you know they've been around for hundreds thousands of years so got a pretty good idea that those are at least somewhat effective now learned i was using cold tub wrong for most of my career and then recently supposedly but i always wonder what in like 15 years we're gonna look back everybody's like wow we were idiots why are we doing that you know or well so i think like this is also why you're retired you know like we're retired now so right now you who knows we all know we all know but, whenever I decide to do that, it was only this year, I was like, you know, I'm not going back to it. I've been offered numerous times to go back.

I've never followed through with it. I've never done it. I think I'm 100% done with that whole aspect. I'm like, all right, now I am officially, let's go ahead and say it. And I'm like, Bobby Carpenter, what are you doing? And he connected me with the people. And I don't know what his entire thing is. But these affinity people have been great for me.

I mean, great for me. I get blood tested. I get my blood like every three months, two months. And they just like check, regulate. Hey, let's do this. Let's do that. Talk to a doctor. It's been really cool.

It's expected. Are you way stronger? I think I could be if I really wanted to. I'm just trying not to be fat, you know. I'm just trying not to be fat. Yeah know? I'm just trying not to be fat. Yeah, but JJ doesn't need, like, HRT or TRT or BPC, whatever. He has DNA. Like, a lot of us don't have DNA.

He clearly just has DNA, and you're good. But the HRT is not the best. No, no, no. I saw that, like, Olympics thing where they're letting them do anything they want, you know? I am fascinated by that. I always wondered, like, during the absolute height of my career, not that I would want to do it because of the injury risk that comes along with it.

But if truly at my athletic peak, if you allowed me to take something, what, what that possibly could have been like, we saw McGuire and Bonds, right? Isn't that what McGuire and Bonds were doing? They were baseball.

Great. I'm absolutely watching that Olympics thing. Why don't you do it? What the hell that looks like. Why don't you do it? You're still powerlifting, it sounds like. Let's go ahead and get you under a bar. Let's put some needles in you.

I mean, you're talking, you're putting so much stress and risk on your body for, like, the things that are going to happen. It's all artificial. You're literally putting yourself at risk. I don't know how the people fuck with the needles. The needles scare me. Like, the peptides are little pills. I think you can get them also as injectables.

As shots. I think you've done research as well. I'm not sure you've taken them all, but you have done the research, I believe. Yeah, I know a little bit about them. Yeah. It's not a full size. It's only an insulin needle. It's insulin needles.

It's really fabulous. So I can't even. I'm not to the point of needles. So, like, that's a whole another conversation for people to have but it's like I've been very appreciative of what the affinity people just stop it JJ did you do the red light the full bed

I did it I did it at Dana's but I've never done it before then I've had people tell me about the red lights and everything I mean it was fine. Like, I don't, I think that's one that you have to do over time to fully, to fully get the effect and everything.

But no, I did not. And he told me that like your eyes, it's actually good for your eyes. So your eyes open in it, which was a little trippy for me, like wild, but it's supposed to be good for your eyes also. But I've, I've heard tons and tons of people talk about the red light therapy i personally from a sauna standpoint i know i'm not an infrared sauna guy i'm a regular sauna guy i like i like the old school regular sweat not hot enough or what yeah i think the

the heat i mean i understand the infrared heats you up from the inside out and all those different things but like i personally just really like this sweat it's the same reason i like a cold tub over cryo like i like i just feel like i sweat. It's the same reason I like a cold tub over cryo. I just feel like I'm actually getting the benefit, and when I leave it, I actually feel better as opposed to – Oh, no. Good season. That was a good season.

He's been fun. You back? Yep. I'm right here. Sorry. I don't know what's going on. I don't know. Dee Bunch, what were you going to say there?

No, what scared me is stopping. Like, taking it sounds great, but, like, what's the process of stopping? I say, you know what? I don't want to do this after a year, two years. Like, what's the process of getting off the affinity? I obviously know what Roy says. You got to cycle. Won't do that.

But, like, what's the process of stopping? I have no idea. That's a good call. That's the thing for me. I don't know. I have not even thought of that. I know exit play. I need no idea. That's a good call. That's the thing for me. I don't know. I have not even thought of that. I know exit play. I need to survive.

The whole point of them is you can stay on them forever. You stay young forever. That's what they say. Allegedly. Boom. Allegedly. Never die. That's facts.

Someone's done them forever? For me, I always say I'm trying to save any solution as long as humanly possible. I don't want to use whatever that thing is thing is until I absolutely have to because like you said maybe there's diminishing returns maybe there's something like whether it's testosterone or whatever it may be like if I if ever my testosterone starts to drop I'm gonna hold out as long as humanly possible to start changing that because I don't want to like I don't want to use anything literally I'm still taking NSF certified products to this day because I'm I don't want to use anything. Literally, I'm still taking NSF-certified products to this day because I don't know any different.

I don't want to take anything. So peptides are this. TRT is a different thing. That's a whole other thing, I think. Testosterone. What's TRT? Testosterone replacement, I think, therapy. That's correct.

Because these are all things that were presented. I literally just learned about all this, and it was very fascinating. You sit down with a doctor, and it's like do you want to dive into this do you want to dive into that trt that involves needles i do believe so that was like the big red flag for me but it's like you get your testosterone tested and they're like you know we could give you we could with the way you're we could if you and i'm like and then the peptide treatment is its own thing and then there's like i think there's some places that even have growth i think growth is anyone doing hgh anymore that

was that was the big thing with cali long time ago i don't know if everywhere is allowed to do it i think that's a big part of it like each state has its own right that's what makes your people's head grow a little bit i feel like the hgh isn't that what they claimed yeah now everything grew yeah there's there's wild stuff man somebody when i got hurt one time like i mean people come out of the woodwork and they give you all sorts of solutions this this one guy came out and he was like here here's what we're gonna do we're gonna put you in an airplane we're gonna have a doctor with you we're gonna fly out over the gulf of mexico as soon as we cross international waters we're gonna draw your blood we're gonna do all this stuff to it and we're gonna put it right back in you and we boom, boom, land back in Houston.

I was like, buddy, buddy, I don't know what kind of cartel operation this is, but I do not want to be part of this. That's blood doping. He was going to draw your blood, put oxygen in it, put it back in you, and it's under international rules, so it's not illegal. That's genius, actually. Scared the shit out of me, man. I don't want to be pulling, like, I don't want to do any medical things

in the plane 40,000 feet near over the Gulf of Mexico. What if it was just one of those Wright Brothers planes too? Like, listen, we got to fly it kind of under the radar, so we got to one of these planes. Something goes wrong up there, you're good. Yeah, we're going to get the needle in you when we take off, so you don't have to do it in the sky. We've tried that before. That's a little bit difficult.

We killed a guy. Anyway, JJ, I don't know if I have all the answers but somebody does out there and uh those roid olympics i think we're all pumped to see yeah the enhance the amount of like like let's just talk about the discus like as soon as that thing goes we're gonna see people just tear and pass in mid throw we're gonna see and's just like tear, tear, tear. But the guy towards that oblique, how far did he throw it? 200 yards. Holy shit.

I didn't watch the commercial, but did the guy in the – I saw like a clip of it. Did the guy in the commercial say he was faster than Usain Bolt? Yes, he did. So, like, we're going to see people doing stuff that has never even been done. Well. Usain Bolt might just take stuff. What do we even?

That'd be awesome. I got to see that to believe it. I don't care what you're taking. 9-5-8? What if nobody finishes? What if nobody finishes the 100-meter? What if it? What if everything?

Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. You hear the gun, right? And then all of a sudden you see bang, bang, bang. It's all of them. Down, down, down, down. You hear the gun, right? And then all of a sudden you see bang, bang, bang. It's all of them. Down, down, down, down. Rip the hamstrings off the bone. Oh, my God. Can't wait.

They got us. They hooked us, man. We're in. I'm in. I am in. Who can survive the Royd Olympics? There will be three. The decathlon is just a pure endurance thing.

Who is going to not care everything? It's kind of like NASCAR. You're watching for the wreck. The amount of muscle. The high jump. Got poof. Bang. Just immediately. Doing the Fosbury. Bang. Sniper. Down. We've only had

one completed jump. You are the Royal Olympic champion. But you also get to have the best possible recovery in the world regardless of what happens. Like somebody's out there. We'll be back tomorrow. Technology. Hamstring right back on.

Like hamstrings reattached. Look, Johnny's back in the race. All right. The representative from Columbia will not be able to compete today because he tore both of his hamstrings. Good news. We'll be 100% tomorrow. Both of his hamstrings. Good news, we'll be 100% tomorrow. Both of those hamstrings will be at 100%.

We will see if he can complete the sprint tomorrow. Oh, the hurdles? No chance. Run right through them. People are going to get seriously hurt during the powerlifting. Speaking of which, Debo.

I thought pulled his hamstring off the bone. Popped right back in the game. That was unbelievable. So, I appreciate Toradol as much as the next one. I appreciate Toradol and all the painkillers that you could possibly give. When he got overthrown there, when Chris Jones was in Brock Ferdie's face, he had to

pick it up a little bit. That's when the hammy, right, that's when the hammy would show up. He finished that. I don't know. That ain't toward you. What happened? That ain't.

That's Toradol. Toradol doesn't do shit for that, man. I can tell you that right now. I don't know what. I don't think your body could. Like, he was full. It had to be cramp. It had to be cramp. Because didn't he leave?

That was the second playoff game he left with the hamstring and came back this year, right? I think it was the shoulder. No, the shoulder was different. Okay, so different injury. A lot of people, I think, especially because of the conversation we just had, they think there's a lot of enhancement drugs in the NFL and stuff. Not a lot of people, but people that aren't, like, they test pretty heavily.

Like, I got asked in Vegas a lot by the people that aren't in the NFL. They're like, so you're on stuff now? I'm like, I'm taking peptides now. I have no idea. Could you pass a test? I'm like, I have not even looked at it because I'm not taking any. I'm my own boss, so I'm not taking any tests or whatever. They're like, so guys are on stuff all the time in the NFL?

I'm like, no, I don't think so. I don't think so. I think, guys, I think that is a misconception of the NFL because how big, strong, fast everybody is. I don't think there is, but there will always be, I guess, some people trying to get around. I don't think so. I think, guys, I think that is a misconception of the NFL because how big, strong, fast everybody is. I don't think there is. But there will always be, I guess, some people trying to get around. I don't know. I don't know how you, like you said, it's literally random testing.

Like the street drug test, yeah, I mean, guys know how to handle that one. But, like, the actual performance-enhancing drug test, you have no idea. You don't know when those are coming. If somebody gamed that system, like, you've got to be on some pretty impressive stuff. Now, you know what locker room conversations are like. We're like, all right, if you're like an undrafted free agent at the beginning of your career and you're either going to make $0 or you could get a contract for $1 million,

like is that the gamble that you're willing to take? Like, yeah, I think there's a lot of guys that might take that gamble. You know, like those are probably the guys that you'd be looking at doing it as opposed to like some of the bigger guys because of what the risk versus reward factor. But, I mean, somebody's got to be. What's up, Darius? What are you shaking your head for?

I don't think. I don't know. I think it's probably the guys at the opposite end of that spectrum that can be kind of a little ahead of the game, knowing what to test for, knowing what to test not for. We saw one guy. Be expensive. But, you know, yeah.

I know of one guy, and he had a long, prosperous career, made a lot of money, but then got popped at the end. And when he walked into the locker room, everybody said, holy fuck, what is that guy on? That ain't Gatorade. Yeah, what is that guy on? He was the most jacked human I've ever seen still to this day. Have you seen him recently? I assume he's still jacked.

He just basically said, I'm just going to do it. Like, I'm just going to try. He was doing 30 sets. His arms were so big. Of arms. Not 30 reps. Not 30 reps. I think I have a good idea.

Oh, yeah. 30 sets. I said, all right, well, how do I get those arms? You know? And he goes, can you give me the arm workout? And he goes, we're doing 30 sets. I was like, all right, so I need to do 30. He was like, yeah, you need to do 30, and then you need to do that 30 times. I'm like, what was that, 9,000?

When do you do that? He never put heavy weight on the bar. It was always like I never saw him bench more than probably 275, but he would just wrap it, wrap it. Every day. Next day, right back more than probably 275, but rapid, rapid. Not every day. Next day, right back in there. 275, not a lot of weight. Not heavy at all.

I mean, not in the NFL. I'm with you, bud. At a still position? That's a warm-up. Well, didn't he show up at 255 and like 3% body fat in the off-season workout? The week he showed up, mandatory mini camp. It's like, yeah, all right. Yeah, that's our safety right there.

Hybrid safety D-end. That's what he said. That place. Greatest human of all. One of the greatest humans of all time. We're not going to say his name. Everybody knows who we're talking about right now, I think. But, like, I don't know how much media he does.

He would be phenomenal. Oh, yeah. Beloved. Jacked. Oh, yeah. Beloved. Jacked. Oh, yeah. Absolutely jacked. Played on special teams with us. But that's literally the only human I think, like, I looked at around the locker room and been like,

okay, so there are people, I guess, getting around this entire thing. But it's not like a norm. I think people think it's like norm. It is not. No, but then you hear, like, Euclid talk about, or maybe it was the mayor, but either way, back in the day with baseball, where guys, they'd come back for catchers and pitchers or spring training or whatever, and there'd be so many guys

where it's like, oh, okay, know what you did, know what you did, know what you did, know what you did. Latimer. How'd you pick up 30 pounds of muscle in two months? Only in your arms. How does that happen? Oh, okay. Well, you took that flight over the Gulf of Mexico.

Yeah. That's awesome. Hey, JJ. Great year this year. I really appreciate you guys, man. Thank you guys for the camaraderie, the friendship. It truly has been fun. The laughs, great entertainment. Your fans are really awesome,

man. It's been a lot of fun. They've been extremely supportive. So I appreciate the platform to be able to speak and to be able to just talk through things. It's a whole lot of fun, man. I truly enjoyed the year, and I appreciate you all. We are very lucky that you chose to do this this year. We're very thankful. I'm happy to hear that our team has been supporting you, our people.

That's good news because it got hot in the streets for you on Sunday. Hopefully some of our people at least want to bat for you. Can't wait to see what you do this offseason, pal. Hopefully we'll see you in the Thunderdome one time. Yeah. Oh, yeah, funny enough. That would be great. Yeah, JJ, when this first started,

allegedly you were supposed to come out to the Thunderdome twice. Is that true? Twice? I think three times. Twice? Three times. I know it was at least once, brother. I do think I was supposed to come once.

I do think that. I was in England. I was in New York. Yeah, I can travel everywhere. See you in a few weeks, pal. Do you guys do the show all year? Is it nonstop? When's your break?

Well, we got a break coming up here in the next two weeks. Poorly timed. Right in the middle of Dorna Combine in Indianapolis. We said, you know what? Fuck it. Our sport, our league, our city, let's not be here. So that's a bad idea. But yeah, we're all here, bub. Except for the next two weeks.

Alright. I will be up there sometime in the calendar year of 2024. Bullshit! 2024. How about before next football season? You're a fucking prick, dude. You can film Baltimore. The gourd on you. I'm going, like, I'm literally going to be in a different country for part.

That's what we're talking about. Trying to figure it out. Exactly. That's what we're talking about. Exactly. You got to fuck in England. Want to come to any, I mean, what are we even. You know what these two do every week?

Debutch. Huh? Debutch. What do you do? Debutch in six do every week debauch huh debauch what do you do debauch in six cities every week yeah yeah yeah three incredible oh that's done for the season you can just hop on aq's plane yeah or yeah or it'd be nice to hop on yours hey here's like let me know whenever you got a bigger one you got a bigger one than i do yeah he does he's a big one he brings a lot of friends, like a couple hundred friends. Is that AQ putting on that player?

Yeah, could have been. Let him sit wherever they want. It's unbelievable. Southwest is comfy these days. Oh, that's what you call AQ. Shout out. Get that exit real sweet. AQ Southwest.

All right, JJ. We appreciate you, buddy. We'll see you soon. Hey, seriously, let me know when you guys are down here. We got to get together. We'll golf, we'll drink, we'll do whatever. Bud. I'm not drinking that shit.

I'm not taking 250 milligrams. I'll tell you that right now. Come on, dude. Live a little. Why you got to be so negative? I've been told what my life would be like if I took 250 milligrams. By who? Somebody with a negative mindset, okay? You don't really know until you're there.

You don't know until you get there. Stop reading the CDC's website. If I know myself, I'll probably be doing 30 sets of 30 reps on the biceps. 200 minutes. I need to get this out of me. I need to sweat. Do a cold shower, coffee. What are they saying this is?

We don't need to overdo it. Don't need to overdo it. Just a nice little 20, 25er. Put J.J. Watt right at that spot. Hair starts going a little bit better. Laughs start coming. Golf shots a little bit smoother. Hopefully. Jokes are coming in a little bit better. Laughs start coming. Golf shots a little bit smoother. Jokes are coming in a little bit quicker.

There's a lot of stuff that can happen to you, JJ. We'll get all of that next week. It's all available. Great. Looking forward to it. My daughter's going to be out there too. Yes. We'll get your daughter and my son together. We'll have a little play date.

I like that. You're going to be very, very successful forever? I have no idea. I sure hope so. That'd be great. I just want to wake up tomorrow and have a great day. Well, I was trying to do an arranged marriage. Oh, oh.

I mean, how old's your, let's see, my son's, I don't know, the month thing, man. It really screws me up. October. It's like military. 15 and a half. Almost a year and a half. Too old.

Just say like a year and a half, almost a year and a half, yeah. 15 months would be a year and a quarter, I think. I'm not a mathematician, but 12 in a year. Yeah, no, I mean, yeah. All right. Sounds like a big no. Yeah, maybe not. Maybe I don't want my daughter married in the F.

I don't think so. Maybe not. I don't know. I got to figure out. He seems cool now. I got to figure it all out. Here's a ladies' joke. No shirt.

He let the internet get to him. I know. That was ridiculous. As soon as he came on, I was like, motherfucker. He owned it. Did he? Well, I mean, I think the tweet acknowledging it, yeah, and I think he's having fun with it.

Yeah, but he didn't wear the hat because he didn't want to get bullied into wearing the hat, even though he's wearing the hat on this particular program a lot. Every week, basically. So he said, I'm not getting bullied. I'm going to show the hair, but I don't need to overdo it with hair and cool shirt like I've done all year, right? Is that what we think happened there with JJ?

Yes, that's exactly what happened. It was the wrong decision. No, I don't know about wrong decision. I'm just letting J.J. We love J.J. I agree. J.J., don't listen to what they're saying. It's the offseason.

He turned the switch. He did, didn't he? Long year. He was on the most watched broadcast ever. You know what? Long year. Well, he only did half the year. Yeah, what are we talking about?

He did a few of the games. Boomer size to remind him of that. All right, J.J., shout out for Super Bowl, huh? That's real nice. Yeah, I'll come to the big games. Boom, that's what I do. Where were you week 11, JJ, when we were in the middle of it all? And JJ said, well, I was actually in London.

I got a team I own. They're going to get relegated. Hey, are they going to make it or not? They're in a bad spot, to be fair. The issue is, like, they've been kind of getting points here and there, but every team around them is playing really well right now they're done i mean so how big of a deal is it though to get relegated that is a lot of cash it's like okay can you can you could you contrast it with something over here that i would understand so tyree salaburton if he doesn't play 65 games and makes the all nba team he's losing out on potentially $40 million.

Yeah, the Supermass contracts, all the escalators are based on awards that you can win. So it goes from legitimately five years or four years, $150 million, to four or five years, $275 million. Okay, so maybe $100 million being lost out. Is that a similar thing that happens whenever you go from one league to the next? Is it like $50 million, $100 million, $10 million?

Or is it Pacers going to the G League? Yeah, basically. Like they have to bounce back up. Like if you stay down for a couple years, then it's an issue. If they go down and bounce right back up, it's fine. But if you stay down. We're talking like $30 million, $50 million? What are we talking about?

I'd say more than that. The players still have contracts and get paid the same way, right? That makes it even worse. Yeah, because a lot of the good players. Hundreds of millions? You're paying guys Premier League money when you're in the championship. The TV deals for the Premier League are absurd. You didn't see this in Ted Lasso, but they actually kind of.

Maybe you did. It might have been the second season. But they talk about how when they got relegated, they had to decide like, hey, are we going to get rid of these people because of the fact that we can't pay them this money anymore or do we hold on to them and then just lose a shit ton of money? So this says

if you go up to the Premier League from the championship, which they did about 245 to 265 minimum is what you get. A million? Yes. about 245 to 265 minimum is what you get. A million? Yes.

Minimum pounds, which is like $300 million. It doesn't say what it is if you go back down. You just don't get that. Yeah, you miss out. So you want to buy a team that's down and then they get bumped up. That's what you need. What Ryan Reynolds has done. See, they bought way leagues down.

Are they up in the championship yet? No, but what Brady bought into that team at a good spot too if they can get going. $300 million for a difference? Yeah. I mean, I couldn't imagine how much money Rex and Morgan. And we're just joking about this to JJ. It's like, I didn't know it was that serious.

$300 million? Still got payroll too, and you get $300 million less coming in? Yep. I saw one of those documentaries that said guys that make $400,000 a week or whatever then go to making $40,000 a week. So it's like a 10x difference. Then you lose those guys. And then your better players are going to want to stay in the Premier League, too.

It's a tough sell to get players to stay on a championship team when they know they could do it in the Premier League too. It's a tough sell to get players to stay on a championship team when they know they could do it in the Premier League. So all the good players Burnley has, if they get relegated, are going to be like, get me the fuck out of Burnley now. Do they have any good players? Luckily for them, they're mostly younger players, so they might keep them all. And company, their coach, he is a good manager.

Really? He doesn't know how to manage in the Premier League. He was good in the championship because he could play how they're playing. So he's good at managing against poopy teams is what you're saying. I think we've talked about this. We've talked about this a lot. There's nothing wrong with parking the bus, and that's something he has refused to do all year.

And when you're in a relegation battle, there's nothing wrong with hoofing the ball up the field for 90 minutes when you're up 1-0 because you just got to stay up, and he refuses to do it. Isn't he a defense guy too? Isn't this a defensive head coach? He's a legendary center back for Manchester City. So what are we? You're too aggressive.

I've been talking with JJ all year, and this is... Pretty serious. Yeah. Just learned of this. Should have known this maybe a little bit earlier in the year. That's all me. I'll do better journalism. $300 million?

Pick it up, boys. That's a bad investment. They better start trading. I guess when you... This better be a hard... That's a depreciating asset. When you get in, there's probably no thought of being relegated, right? I'm sure when he jumped in... I think he got in whenever they were down. We started

doing the math. We haven't asked him exactly, but when the announcement made of him joining Burnley, they were down. Yeah, it was last January he bought in. Then they go up. Yeah. So I don't know because of when he bought in, how much of a cut he got of that. I don't know how it all works. I don't know how

many part owners there are and everything, but the way he's been, he is deep. But then you get into the Champions League, you make even more money. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that Burnley top four. No, but I'm saying, like, that's the goal. You get top four in each league. Yeah, Champions League money is absurd as well.

Like, Man City was a Championship League team that came up, and now they are just at the top of the Premier League. That's the dream. And they're in the Champions League. They in the champions league which is another what couple hundred million i'd assume each year yeah i bet at least because the champions league that that i mean if we're talking about ratings yesterday i would one i want to know what the champions league final ratings are because that's another one because i think that's memorial day weekend every single year did that start yesterday? Yeah, yesterday. Around the 16th, did it?

Yeah, Eric Kane's going today. $400 million for Champions League final. Yeah. Let's get to a break. On the other side, we'll finish up the season within the trenches. Everything DB, good D, bad D. And then we're off to Thursday. Love, love.

I mean, Valentine's Day tonight. I'm sure you guys got some stuff planned. What are you doing? What am I doing? I got a lot of stuff planned. Oh yeah? A little self-love? Gonna play some darts. Self-love is the best. Gonna make the same dinner I make every night. Gotta love you.

Play some video games. Look over Indianapolis. Check out Indianapolis. I've heard. I'm pumped. People are on the record as saying you have the best view of Indianapolis in the entire city. It's been said once in a very friendly way. I don't know if it is the best. I heard you reap the benefits of the view.

Well, I do every night, you know. I mean, you should have seen the sunset on Monday. My God. One of the greatest things I've seen in this city. I mean, this city's skyline? Yeah. Right up there. I'm staring at it.

Right there. Like Norman, Oklahoma. You son of a bitch. I was in Lexington the other night. I was two minutes away from the arena. My GPS said two minutes. I saw no buildings. See?

But then I got around a hill, and I saw a beautiful town. It was gorgeous. Oh, this place is gorgeous. Indianapolis, pretty similar. You could be five minutes out from downtown Indianapolis and not see a thing. You actually say, like, am I going in the right direction? Where is this thing? But then once it appears, it's like, oh, that's a beautiful, like, six blocks.

Yes. It is a, and because it's so small is why it's so good at hosting. Yep. Everything. Because everything is just right there. I'm really pumped to hear all these people kind of take the affinity that they have for Indianapolis wherever they come. Yeah, me too.

It is a hidden gem. More events. Yeah, more events. It's also gotten better downtown as far as roads and... Well, COVID was certainly something. Yeah, it was. I was there last night. Hit comment up. Nah, I mean, that's not true. Hey, Con.

Hey, come here. See? Hey, Deepwatt, last time you went, you didn't invite me. I'm right downtown. That's a lie. Hit him. Ah, nah, sorry. Come on, dude.

You didn't text me. You didn't call me on the way out. You had the boom box. So don't say you were hitting me. You were vibing. The bump box. My bad. He was vibing.

Bump box was fun. So the bump box, DJ Con Man on the bump box is a great new addition. Oh, yeah. I've been thinking about turning it on after the show for at least half the time, JJ. Has a microphone Bluetooth to his bump box that is very loud. That thing's louder than the entire Thunderdome speakers itself. So loud. And then can auto-tune himself on the side of it.

Echo, voice change. Oh, yeah. The Bump Box is a real deal. Thank you for just crashing the set and giving us a bunch of these Bump Boxes to the Bump Box team. They've been a great addition to the Thunderdome. Yeah, we were talking about it. If you are a beachgoer and you have a Bump Box, you own the beach that you go to. Yeah. are a beach goer and you have a bump box you own the beach that you go to yeah i mean a lot of people that go to the beach try not to like just over everybody around oh yeah if you go

to that beach i'm glad you said that like if you're a college spring breaker for sure but if you're an adult going to the beach i don't know if that particular well that's not me there's a smaller bump box yeah that'll be that is good that you just keep you know so i don't good So you don't ruin their life Cause they might guess what Have different tastes than you And they paid a lot of money to get there as well Oh yeah well you gotta ask around You can't just show up with the loudest box

Just walk around with a box But they're gonna feel obligated to say yes Okay well then that's a whole move to Well then that's a no That for me it is. Someone's going to smash that thing for sure. All you need is one drunk. The, uh, when I was down in, um,

what was that town? St. Pete? Yep. This, this old man, he built a tent on the beach, like did the full fucking... Playing his flag, yeah. Whole thing. Windy. Super windy. So I'm not a, I don't live on a beach, like, did the full fucking whole thing. Windy, super windy.

So I don't live on a beach, but I know wind, tent, not great. Had this big speaker. I mean, this guy was acting like an asshole. Full on. I'm watching this. 25, 30 minutes in, the wind beat that tent. Yes. Running down.

So obviously I laugh at the situation. The tent went a different direction, didn't go directly towards me. So I wasn't like eager to get up and help. Yeah. You know, I wasn't like, I'm going to go grab this guy's tent that we all knew was going to fucking blow away. No obligation for you either. Would not do that. The guy sitting in the tent next to me, though, in the cabana next to me, basically looks at me, calls me a bad guy. Why don't you go help the guy?

Oh, do you go help a guy? What about him? him well then he went to try to help guy was too embarrassed didn't want to help so then he came walking back with his head down to the cabana everybody says a hero huh such a hero huh maybe that guy's just an and maybe we all need to enjoy that and just never be that person sit up good guy that ended up getting boozed up had a little conversation one later in that story just wanted to help yeah sometimes you don't have to yeah sometimes not everybody needs to be saved nope that old man had been to the beach a thousand times there you go and he was letting everybody know he'd been there yeah how's he gonna learn his beach it was we were tourists on his beach boy that tent flying through the air was awesome just a fucking yeah there was a guy flying a kite

that was like maybe 40 feet long oh yeah with a streamer on the back of those beach ones sick flying at the full speed yeah diving it down it was like an air show well the people that do like the skimboarding or whatever. With the kites. Yeah, but there's some that do it with the kites that ride. That are connected. Yeah. Those people are weapons. Yeah, you shouldn't do that.

That would be sick. That was kind of tough. That's just, I mean, you've seen those people. I've seen a couple people end up in a hotel. Yeah, that's possible. I mean, you're at the mercy of the wind. Yeah, you're Amish. Bingo.

Do you do a lot of beaching down there in South Florida? No. Usually, if I do, early morning, catch the sunrise. Not too hot. Do you see beach in your life? Yeah. Growing up, I probably grew up 20 minutes away

from the beach. Once you go east, you basically run into the beach 20-25 minutes anywhere in Fort Lauderdale, Miami, but didn't go much. That's what, I feel like that happens. Yeah. Like the beach town people, unless you live on the beach, you don't really see the beach that much. For me, I'm not visiting a

beach town unless I'm on the fucking beach. But then there's people that like stay inland and I'm like, you could go do this in like Arizona. You know? I agree. Those people go to the beach, some of those people, like a lot could go do this in Arizona. I agree. Some of those people, like a lot of the beach towns in Cape Cod and even Gloucester,

some of them are packed in inland, but they'll have like... They only got a month though. It's not as if it's a full year around. They only have three or four months. I'm going to the beach. A lot of people go May to August. Memorial to Labor Day, they'll go to Cape Cod

for that entire time. What ruins the fucking beach for me is fucking birds once you bring some food out or kids have some food i fry french fries something they're just they pull you oh yeah oh yeah they're not going that's why you kill one you snap one's neck yeah get an airsoft gun you put you put oneet into an eye. Everyone knows in the beach now. Bingo. You guys can't just murder birds. Partially blinding is not murder. Let's get to a break. Let's get smarter on the other side.

Let's enjoy the season that was in the trenches and on the defensive side of the ball. We're all pretty pumped about the break, I think. We're going to miss everybody, though. And we're going to be four days in and I'm going to be very antsy. Miss everybody in here. Yeah, that's true. Many people to watch along the way.

Nah. We can't just let the negative ones on the internet be a full-on representation of the people that spend their afternoons or evenings with us. No, no, no. I'm not saying that at all. But, you know, that's not what you were saying. A lot of good people out there, Conor, okay? I travel a lot.

Sure. Commercial. I like them. I see them. I like them. I know you don't. A lot of good people out there, Connor. Okay. I travel a lot. Sure. Commercial. I like them. I see them. I like them. No, you don't see them next Wednesday. I'm not going to be like,

man, I miss those people. It is cool. You guys, it is cool to be in the public every once in a while. Like we don't really get to go into the public much. We like work, come to the Thunderdome,

Adam Silver, Kayfabe kind of gave it up. We're in the middle of a neighborhood. Yeah, we all love that. So we don't really, we don really get out into the public much. We don't really do that. Don't eat much in public.

Nope. Don't really see groups of people. Only really see ourselves. So whenever we go to Vegas and get to see, it was cool. It was nice to see people say, like, what's up? A lot of good people out there. What's up? And they watch the show.

I mean, even in the game day travels, when we do those Friday live shows, hanging around, talking to everybody, love that stuff. Loved it. Yeah, it was super fun. A lot of, like, really cool stories where it's like, fuck, that is, like, hearing that makes stuff like this even more awesome. Well, we're in our own little fun room. Yeah. Hey, when I was walking to

Waste Management, more fans of the program than you could ever even see. Well, I see a lot of people are saying that. A lot of people are saying, well, that's your demo over there ruining the waste management. That's a good demo. Boy, was it a time. They go. Were you there?

I went Saturday. That was the day. Toll was at a... Gridlock. They shut it down. Shut it down. They're saying that thing might change. Couldn't move.

Are they going to change that going forward? I don't know. Sounds like a good time, though. It was a great time. They need to sell less. I mean, I don't know if they want. They don't want to, rather. Less people? But they need to just sell less tickets. time, though. It was a great time. They need to sell less. I mean, I don't know if they want. They don't want to, rather. Less people?

They need to sell less tickets. Yeah, less people in the place. But they shut down booze for two hours, too, which people were not real happy about. Really? Well, it's because you guys were being assholes. Nah, don't. Not me. You were there.

I saw you rolling in the mud. I'm one of the 300,000 people. All assholes. Are you? Every one of them assholes. That's what I read on the internet Billy Ho He was mad

She was Jack Johnson I've been coming here for 21 years They're always just assholes Perfectly behaved crowd What's that? Those two can have a perfectly behaved crowd and have a problem with it Zach Johnson shouldn't have lost the Ryder Cup So that's on fucking him

A lot of people pissed off of him, too. I saw a lot of people saying, yeah, the golfer's acting a little soft in this entire thing. So maybe we meet in the middle. Ricky Fowler. Yeah, Ricky. I mean, if you have a personality, yeah. Scotty Schaeffer almost hit a hole in one, I think, on Saturday.

He's a player. We haven't got your take on this. Golf in trouble right now? PGA's in trouble. Yep. They better figure it out. I didn't know anything. They better figure it out real quick.

I mean, obviously, we know Billy Ho and Zach Johnson and everything, but they weren't at the... No. And when you turn on Liv almost every single week, it's Kepka, Cam Smith, all the names at the top. And you see right now the narrative that's coming out is the ratings are terrible for Liv and PGA is still killing. I understand that. I understand that's just out is the ratings are terrible for Liv and PGA is still killing. I understand that.

I understand that's just because it's routine. Routine is just to turn on PGA. But, like, when I know everybody on one of the tours and I don't know anybody on the other one, seemingly, that's being spotlighted or at the top, it's like that's going to sway some casuals, which is what we are, I think. I agree. Easily, too. They're going to figure that out. It's not like, ah, man, which is what we are, I think. I agree. Easily, too. They're going to figure that out.

It's not like, oh, man, should I watch this? Should I watch this? Who should I? It's easy. Hey, I'm going to go watch all the guys that are winning majors right now. This weekend's a big one for the PGA because everyone's playing in it. And Tiger's back. And Tiger's back.

Oh, so I'll watch. And it's the week after the Super Bowl. So this is when golf actually people start watching. He's wearing Sunday Red. You're buying all of them too? I wore the red socks in honor of him. Sunday. What's the name of the company that made those socks?

Those are Jordan. Just one name. Jordan. One name. Weird. Woods wouldn't even be cool. His name was already taken. Yeah, Woods would have been cool

Asics? Asics got a line of something I don't know the first name Tiger since 1949 so obviously you know Tiger's been the guy since what? 1999 Four years old you knew he was going to be a phenom so that's where he tried to get in there but

nope Tiger's gone. Tiger gone Tiger Tiger also ice cream out there in Canada. Yeah. I don't think trademarks, I don't think that's a thing in Canada. I mean, Tiger was on the Johnny Cochran show at three years. Johnny, they shut him. They should have locked it up then. Johnny Cochran. The lawyer? Whatever it is.

Johnny Carson. There it is. I nailed it. How about Johnny Carson? Definitely. Rest in peace, though. I did a little, I did a paper on the Johnny Carson? Definitely. Very dead. Rest in peace, though. I did a little. I did a paper on Johnny Carson show in college. They were drawing like a 14, 15 show. Like everybody was a guy.

He was the guy. 60 every night. There's four options of entertainment. And he was friends with everybody. You wanted to make it. You got to go through there. His vibes were immaculate. His interview skills were superb. What a guy. What a legend.

That was back whenever there was literally 10 famous people. Those were the days. Those were the days. We weren't around for them but we heard those were the days. They'll come for him too. Give it time. They always do. Johnny Carson? I'm sure. At some point. Yeah, they will.

No matter what. Time's probably already passed. Sure. Okay. Alright, let's take a break. We wrap up this glorious Wednesday. I wanted to be a late night show host at one point. Absolutely. Now, why would you? Well, it's changed changed it's so different

now you don't need to no like because they're just trying to create youtube clips yeah the tonight show growing up was it was like fuck that is something that's awesome yeah craig ferguson used to have the late late one he was awesome he used to have when he'd tear up his questions i'm not using these we're having a conversation with Zachson. I became a fan of Fallon because of the Late Late Show before he became the Tonight Show. There was the entire Letterman-Leno situation that popped up. Letterman thought he was going to get the Tonight Show instead.

Leno got it. Letterman moved to the other CBS, I believe, with Big Pants Company or whatever his company was. And then Conan. A lot of drama in there. Conan, Leno, Arsen Lano has to come back Arsenio Arsenio Hall had a hell of a run yeah a long time that late night Magic Johnson had a hell of a late night show for a little bit I didn't know that he would he had a prime like a prime time or late night show the Magic Johnson hour the Magic Johnson show for I think it it went for like a year or so.

That used to be like the desired time slot. Oh yeah. Is to go there, you'll be the star. You'll be a star, kid. You'll be a star. You go on the late night show. Now it's like every segment they're doing, they're trying to get on the internet.

Yeah. And it's like four minutes long and nothing happens. Like it's tough. That's all they're trying to do is just get on the internet. Just promote. And the same people that are making decisions for those late night shows are still making decisions now. It's all they're trying to do is just get it on the internet. And the same people that are making decisions for those late night shows are still making decisions now. It's like, world's changing.

Right in front of your face. Right in front of your face. And we're lucky to be a part of it. We're also lucky to get smarter on the other side of this break. You boys gonna bring it or what? Let's go. Got to. Let's go, boys.

It's fucking Kansas City Cheese Parade Day. We're gonna bring it. It's Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day. We're going to bring it. It's Valentine's Day. Valentine's Day. All right. We love love around here. Yes, we do. Don't we?

We love love. We love love. When people are in actual love, we love it. Yes. Absolutely. That's why we love Taylor and Trav. Yeah. People are saying that they told Taylor not to come.

She's in Australia. She's got four stadiums. She's got a job. It'll work. She's not able to just get drunk in the streets. No. She has stuff to do. She has a job yeah

being the biggest star on earth exactly after the rock bingo a lot of people pissed about how the rock's being labeled right now what do you mean i saw i saw an entire thing that had uh it was getting a lot of good action like dub calling the rock the biggest star on the planet with taylor swift and what she's doing right now is ridiculous there's a couple people up there and that's yeah exactly like fucking relax if the rock was to walk through any continent people would go yeah that's the rock taylor swift was to walk through any continent oh yeah that's taylor swift even russia how many people are like. How many people are like that? How many people are in that group?

I think everyone would know who Shaq is. Michael Jordan, maybe 20 people. Ronaldo, Messi, Brady. I wouldn't say 20. Messi could walk through Ohio, I think. Tiger Woods. I think parts of Ohio. Messi could walk right down the middle of the street. Parts, yeah, for sure.

And nobody would have a clue. Pittsburgh, I think he could walk. Maybe right down the middle of the street. Oh, parts, yeah, for sure. And nobody would have a clue. Yeah. Pittsburgh, I think he could walk maybe right down the outside. Pittsburgh? You put – Pittsburgh cares about soccer. He's 500 million followers on Instagram alone. Yeah, the world. I think that's the world.

Yeah, not Pittsburgh. Yeah, you put Messi – And this was my whole conversation yesterday on first take about Biggie's box office. I said, Patrick Mahomes, just because, you know, 202 million people watching. I got a bunch of soccer people killing me about being such an American, you know, with my... And that's real. True. But there is places in America

where Messi could walk through and nobody would have a clue who he is. Agreed. If he was just dressed in regular clothes. Now, you put him in his uniform. His kit, yeah. With cleats on. With the leg tat. Like, there is... There's a chance people are going to know who he is. But he used to put them in some jeans and, like, a hoodie and then walk down the street.

I don't think anybody in some cities would have a clue who he is. Yeah. Much just because we're so, like, engulfed in the entire thing. And with the Apple TV stuff. What's that? He's on the TV. So, every time I log into Apple TV, still, it feels like I'm seeing messy. I want everybody to know.

Dwayne D. Rock Johnson has 100 million more Instagram followers than Taylor Swift. Anyone who had a problem with that, they can shut the fuck up. Let's get to a break. In the trenches. The Rock is the Rock. I agree. Hey, I'm with you. I'm just telling you.

It's important what I'm seeing, though. Nice. Thank you. Nailed it. That's a good one. That's the universe saying there's going to be a great end to trenches and everything. You go, boys. Be a friend.

Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Take five. Bye. Bye. Bye. Welcome back to our Humble the Boat, the Thunderdome, on this We Love Love Wednesday, February 14th, 2024.

Hour four of the program starts now. Sports. That's AJ Hawk. Obviously, he was great at football. I assume other sports as well because we watch him golf, and boy, does the ball bounce his way every single time. We've seen him bury basketball shots for kids to win tuition this past fall. I mean, this guy's a freak show athlete with a great haircut.

Hey, hair looks good. Nice. New hair Wednesday. A little trim. A little trim, yeah. Hair looks really, really good. The Talks of Ted was here at Boston Corner in Darius J. Butler in place of Ty Schmidt.

One half of the hammer. Don. Cowboys 10 Diggs is here. And the man who hosts in the trenches, 12-year NFL vet, Super Bowl champion A.Q. Shipley is here. We have some news around the NFL. Defensive coordinator for the San Francisco 49ers, Steve Wilks, has been fired from the San Francisco 49ers.

A change of San Francisco. Steve Wilks is out as the 49ers' defensive coordinator. Now, this is a surprise. This literally just broke within a matter of San Francisco. Steve Wilkes is out as the 49ers defensive coordinator. Now, this is a surprise. This literally just broke within a matter of moments here. We don't even have a take. Did not expect this to take place. Now, I guess the only thing would be is we did win the Super Bowl. We didn't go over the hump.

Something's got to change. Kyle Shanahan's head coach. We're not going to fire the head coach. He's the offensive coordinator. Patrick Mahomes, game-tying drive, whatever they need it. Game-winning drive, whatever they need. Just march right down the field. Patrick Mahomes has done this to other teams in the past.

We thought Steve Wilkes' defense was phenomenal all year long. I think that's a conversation piece. So a bit of a shocker here, especially this time in the coaching cycle, but that's not the Niners' fault, I guess, because they make it to the Super Bowl. But this is a shocker here, AJ. This is certainly a shocker if Steve Wilks is out. Do you think there's going to be a chance we hear that this is somewhat of a mutual situation? Because if they won that Super Bowl, if they made one more play and they win the Super Bowl,

I'm guessing Steve Wilks is still around. Yeah, third and four, they pick up that first down at the end of the game. And, Jake, I think what we're going to learn from in the trenches is they send offensive line left. George Kittle picks up right. Then they have McDuffie picked up. They pick up that third and four first down. They drain the clock. They kick the field goal.

They win the Super Bowl. Is Steve Wilkes fired? Probably not. That's why football is wild. That's why the NFL is insane. But then also, if you hold them to a field goal instead of a touchdown in overtime, we're still playing for the third possession. We go kick a field goal, we

win this game. What the offense is able to do. But they're in the Super Bowl. Chuck was going to talk about a couple weeks ago how Wilkes had to call the defense out, you know, as far as like some effort things. He did come from the booth. Yeah, and then we talked a few weeks ago, me and AQ, about how different the defense has been

since they lost Hufanga. And obviously you know what the defense was last year under D'Amico Ryans and even prior to that with Salah. So didn't expect this firing to happen. I'm with AJ, though. I hope it comes out that there was some mutual parting of ways because we're on a run. We thought last year he should have been hired as the Carolina Panthers head coach

after the job he did as the interim and then had a great year, a pretty good year this year. And being in the Super Bowl, 19 points in regulation against Patrick Mahomes, obviously going to lose it. But this is definitely surprising. There's a comment coming from Kyle Shanahan. Shanahan says it was a tough decision and he didn't mention it yesterday because he wasn't sure at that point which direction he'd go.

He says Wilk's system didn't align with what the 49ers had run previously as it just ended up not being the right fit. without the right fit at the coordinator they make the super bowl that's a wild thing uh i don't know if it's is it he said scheme there right so he didn't say personality it wasn't a personality fit or whatever the case is and he said he could have went a multiple different directions as of yesterday so either last night or this morning he just woke up and had to make that incredibly difficult decision there. I guess he could potentially also be a part of a victim of same thing that I guess Purdy was going through.

They have so much talent on defense side of the ball. So does Kyle Shanahan think like, you know, Sala had success. D'Amico. D'Amico had success'Amico had success. Wilkes had success. We could bring in anybody, really, and run. Is that a mind? Not saying that that's the case or diminishing anything that Steve Wilkes'

brain is or does, but is that what Kyle Shanahan thinks? Like, hey, we have so much talent invested on that defensive side of the ball. All of our defense coordinators have done well. Like, that is how we need to find the group that can win us a super bowl because they get a stop after we kick that field goal we win this thing is is that the ultimate reason why i do i genuinely wonder that well and like with those two guys oh my bad as you're going no i just i think that obviously there's been issues behind the scenes all year if they're firing him now this isn't the first they're they're thinking like,

hey, we need to change up or this system isn't working the way – like the system doesn't fit our players the way we want to. What would the system be? I don't think I fully understand. Because they're running the San Francisco 49ers defense. Is that just what happens? I mean, every coordinator is going to come and have their own wrinkles. They've been a 4-3, down linemen, down DNs.

But is it more quarters? Is it more man-based, more fire zones, different things? So how you call the game is definitely some things. In the game, it's going to be on everything DB. I think matchup-wise, they could have and should have done differently, I think, when it comes to handling Travis Kelsey. And then the teams throughout this playoff run, if you look at the NFC side, you know, the Lions, the Packers, what they'll be.

But the teams, like they had some success, especially in the run game. And you know playoff time is going to start with, hey, stopping the run game. If you look at the personnel in San Fran, Hargrave, Bosa, Young, Kinlaw, and then the second-level linebackers of Greenlaw, obviously he got hurt, Fred Warner. Like, you would expect they should be, you know, one of the top teams in the league in the run game.

So, didn't have a ton of success in the postseason. And they're in championship mode. So, it's just like the same when you're changing players. Like, if we need to change a wrinkle here, even though we were this close, maybe that's what we need to change. What did Bill Cowher say? He said, I'll fire a coach. Just fire a coach.

Yeah. Just to let people know that they need a little bit of different energy. I'm not saying that's what Kyle Shanahan did. But, like, that is right. They are in championship mode. We need to figure this out how we go. Steve Wilks will get another job, we assume, but it's late here now. Yeah, and there's no DCs open now, but he'd definitely get another job.

Who knows, too, if after the season, if any of the players came up and nothing against Steve Wilks, but if they were like, hey, look, the things that we did, obviously we had our base that the San Francisco defense has that we've had the past couple years, but the little things that got changed, they didn't help us, like what we were changing last year and those little things that D'Amico was doing, that was much more better suited for

our defense, but luckily enough for the San Francisco 49ers, there's a highly motivated analyst on ESPN that would love to be a defensive coordinator again in the NFL. That would be pretty electric in San Francisco. A guy who was potentially up for the Dallas Cowboys job. Yeah, I think so.

Who really, really, really wanted the Cowboys job because he wants to be on that stage. And the Jesus commercial people say he loved. That's right. The one where they're washing feet. Now are they a 4-3 and Rex is a 3-4 guy? Does that be? I have no idea. All those intricacies, I got no fucking clue.

But I do know Rex Ryan needs to be back in the NFL, damn it. There was definitely an interesting point in that game, right, where you saw Shanahan call a timeout. Remember that? Oh, yeah, and then he. He kind of overwrote. You saw he was about to bring cover zero. They already ran zero, like a zero-type thing.

They got burnt earlier because Mahomes did, I think, rice on a crossing pattern that went for like 40. Yep. And then he calls the timeout, and he's like, do not run cover zero again. Against Patrick Mahomes. What was that stat that Big Cat posted from Reddit? That Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the clutch moment.

Perfect. He's seven for seven. The next best, I think, was Brady at five. In the playoffs. In postseason football. Yeah, this came from Neil's suback, Neil Payne, or whatever. I saw it via Big Cat's Twitter account from Barstool. And congrats on the 41 straight free throws.

We're all watching along with bated breath. Since 2001, there have been 125 drives in the NFL postseason where it was at least the fourth quarter. There was under a minute left to play, and the team on offense trailed by seven points or less at the start of it. These are your standard clutch moments for a football team, the do-or-die type drives that win and lose critical games. Out of those 125 drives, only 40% of them saw the team pull off a magic trick

and make it happen. Some quarterbacks pretty good. Tom Brady went 5 of 11, 46% of super clutch. Drew Brees, 3 for 6, 50% super clutch. Patrick Williams, 7 for 7. Okay, 7 for 7. That's what we're dealing with. We asked somebody yesterday, like, hey, why is he?

He's like, I'm just so comfortable in those situations, I guess, because I'm there. It's like a lot of people can say they're comfortable. It's like whenever you lock in and all of a sudden, like, every play, every snap, every step, every throw, every second matters more than everybody else. And you execute at that high level. It's like, I don't know if Steve Wilkes, the way it ended was potentially a part of it. Right.

If he gets a stop there, is he fired? Probably not. But it's like Patrick Mahomes has done this to a lot of people. So I'm assuming just like to your point, this wasn't just a one game situation with Steve Wilkes and Kyle Shanahan. No, it's never like a all of a sudden make a rash decision at the end of the season. I'm sure this was kind of boiling under the surface in Kyle Shanahan's mind throughout the year.

He may have been worried, like, hey, if we end up winning this Super Bowl and I want to move on from Wilks, what do I got to do? Wait until after the parade and let him go? Like, this is going to be weird. Just that is what – go back to that stat. This fucking guy. Yeah. What's his problem?

That's what I was going to say about the stat. Just for Brady's sake, obviously, it's when you're, you know, trailing by seven or less. I mean, he won two Super Bowls and the game was tied. He drove down the field and they kicked the field goal against the Rams and against the Panthers. And then, obviously, 28-3. None of those factor in except for the last one.

But still, yeah, seven for seven is the most ridiculous thing out there. Well, it's under a minute left. Down by 7. Yeah, but I'm just saying under a minute. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously, there's not a lot of these situations that pop up, and we're not saying like comebacks as a total, but with a minute left in the game, like this is it.

Like we're either losing or we're winning the game. Yeah, I mean, Mahomes has a situation where they were down with under 20 seconds left, right, against the Bills? game like this is it like we're either losing or we're winning the game yeah i mean my homes that's a situation where they were down with under 20 seconds left right against the bill 13 13 13 last cup yeah every time yeah he's making it if he is i mean every single fucking time and now he has that but he has that that j aura about him now, too, with the teams that he's facing, too. Feel that the coaches that are coaching against him feel that, okay, this guy, we have to find a way. We have to be the first team to ever stop this guy in one of these situations.

Mic'd up actually comes out that the Niners talk, and I think the ref's Bill Vinovich. Bill Vinovich says, like, Niners got to get this, because if not, that other guy is on the other side. This came out of Inside the NFL last night on the CW from NFL Films. We get a first down, we knock a lot of time off this clock.

Your best play that you have in your book right now, because you don't want to give Mahomes ball back. Hey, man, we got no sacks, obviously. Hey, alert the pressure. We cannot take a set. Great shot.

NFL films so far. Yeah, the best. Pretty looking left. Ball got tipped right out of his hand. McDuffie pressure. And that was when we all knew Patrick Mahomes is going to do what Patrick Mahomes is going to do.

Even as soon as Patrick saw it, yep, all right, thank you, here we go. Bill Vinovich, the ref. I like Patrick Mahomes is going to do what Patrick Mahomes is going to do. Even as soon as Patrick saw it, yep. Alright, thank you. Here we go. Bill Vinovich, the ref. I like how calm he is. Yeah. In the fourth quarter there. Because we talk about rising to the occasion. The refs did. In the fourth quarter, they didn't get tight. They didn't start calling more. They didn't panic. Bill Vinovich was like, Dan needs the

fucking best one he's got here. And the other ref was like, yep, yep. And then we all know what's happening on the other field. I like seeing like the football fans. They watch a lot of ball. They know these quarterbacks. They know these coaches. Probably can tell you better than most of us can.

All right, I can expect this type of play. Okay, we can expect some pick routes, rub routes, probably pressure from spags. But with that Pat Mahomes, like not only is it him, we talked about Michael Jordan, but he's got his Phil Jackson too. He's got Andy Reid who always has that one last, those two last plays in his back pocket, whether it's a Wasp, a Tom and Jerry or whatever.

You got your Scotty with Travis Kelsey. So, I mean, they just got everything. Well, Travis Kelsey was on the mic front at the parade today. We will not show that because I don't know if his remix to Friends in Low Places was as smooth as he planned it. I assume he will rerecord that. I hope. And we will definitely hear that.

Travis had a good time. Yep. Has had a good time. Patrick Mahomes spoke at the parade today talking about, you know, hey, we're not done. And now you hear – he started talking about it to us. You hear what he has put in his head now to be the motivation here as he's incredibly intoxicated speaking of Kansas City.

No, for real though, we appreciate everything y'all do. Showing up to Arrowhead every single week. We know we had to go on the road last year, but I promise you next year we'll be at home and we're going for that three-piece. Don't forget it. Get it twisted. We're doing it. Three times. First time in NFL history

we doing it. Love y'all. First time in NFL history we doing it. Love y'all. First time in NFL history. So, like, that's the thing now. So, like, you already see that he has it locked in. Like, oh, this has never been done before. So now he's even more motivated than maybe the first time that he won. And that's what they'll say, by the way.

They'll say, we want this next one more than we've ever wanted before because historically this has never taken place. And then you wonder yourself, well, they had the best defense they've ever had last year. Will that be able to remain? Will they be able to have defense player of the year, Kenny Christian? Well, Chris Jones actually spoke during the parade, incredibly

intoxicated, and this is what he had to say. I need three of those things, baby. Okay. We ain't done yet. We ain't done yet. Kansas City't done yet. Kansas City, we will be back here next year. And for those who want Chris Jones gone, I ain't going nowhere, baby. Hold up.

I will be here this year, next year, and the year after. What? 3P, 3P, 3P, 3P. Okay, and that immediately prompted a tweet from his agent, which is obviously a hysterical situation as he enters free agency where he said, hey, bartenders, cut them off. Cut these people off. We got too many boos with Laffy Faze. You said what we're hearing there is Chris Jones signed a three-year deal

with the Chiefs. They're going to get that done. Now, people have obviously gone on the record whenever they were drunk and said things were going to happen, and then obviously different things took place. Yeah, here's Michael Katz, NFL agent Katz. The Katz brothers are phenomenal. Cut them off, bartenders.

We got too much beer right now, as Chris Jones is giving away leverage as he gives his speech business-wise. But if they're able to keep this team together, you can hear them all. They all found the motivation. This is what we're going for. Something that's never taken place before. Of course, AJ.

Of course they're able to find it. First thing they said, you see Trav and Mahomes on the field five minutes after they win the game, and that's what they instantly talk about. We're coming back. We're not done yet. This is not the goal. We have many more in our brain that we feel like we're going to win. You see all those corny movies and motivational things

where they write something on a mirror. So when you see it, it motivates you. In the gym or the model, they got it. Never been done. Three in a row. The Patriots, Tom Brady, greatest of all time. Bill Belichick, greatest of all time. Patriots, greatest dynasty

of all time. You know what? Everybody's fucking running their mouth about this. They were never able to win three straight. Sustain greatness for 20 plus years. Way to go. Multiple different teams. We've already done it. Never been able to win three in a row. And they're set up and primed to do it. Congrats to Chiefs fans, but also fuck yeah crazy but also be a little tougher you know brandon staley and josh mcdaniels

are gone now but yeah there's no there's no like hey whoa this is uh i mean come on let's let's just call a spade a spade whoa raiders didn't want to play for mcdaniels and obviously the staley thing happened but again true they're they're even with those two guys in there there's no like yeah that's really going to change it. Maybe the Chiefs don't want, they're going to win the division. So that's a done deal. And then how else is everything else going to fall into

line after that? Well, Patrick Mahomes, while he was drunk speaking at the parade with the WWE title alongside Travis Kelsey, he said, we're going to have home games. Okay, we apologize for having to go on the road this year. We enjoyed being the villains, but also we missed out on the kingdom getting to experience with us so it sounds like today was quite a success now we are being told at the end of that thing a couple shots gunshots police have arrested two people i do believe i think a couple people

have been shot we um started the show was saying like the parade's a perfect thing because it's a entire city coming together to celebrate something that they were all a part of. You know, every single Sunday or Monday or Thursday or Friday or Saturday, every day that the NFL plays, whenever that city and that fan base would turn on the game, their energy, their power made them feel as if they were a part of something much bigger than themselves. They were able to set aside life for a little bit

to focus on this Kansas City Chiefs team that's in the middle of a dynasty. And for one day, they were able to celebrate everything that they had accomplished together. They could put aside their differences. You feel this way about this thing. You feel this way about this thing. Normally, we're not even able to talk because it's 2024.

That's how people act. But today, fuck that. We're getting hammered and we're celebrating the fact that the Chiefs are on top of the world and we're nowhere near done. So we put over the fact that we love that parades happen. We put over the fact that today's a great day in Kansas City. A couple gunshots

at the end of it could potentially change the entire vibe, which fucking sucks. Hope everybody's okay. Hope everything's alright. But that is quite a damper to a day where an entire city was supposed to come together and enjoy the hell out of life. Yeah, I obviously hope everybody's safe. Hopefully this is a celebratory gunshots.

Maybe just a couple. Which is safe. It's not what they said. A couple people were struck, etc. Yeah, I think someone was shot. That sucks, dude. It's terrible. Tease and pease everybody.

But let's not forget all the how close there's a shot from the Kansas City Police chopper over top that in the group text it's a tweet that they sent

and they fly over the parade route and it's like that's such a beautiful thing two minutes of the video is two minutes long that is just like

such a beautiful thing to just showcase and And people are like, well, it's not that deep. It goes through the entire fucking city. Come on. There's so many people. It's two minutes of this. It continues on. Think about how awesome that is for the entire community. And I know, obviously,

gunshots are terrible to happen. And two people have been arrested. But it's like, let's not forget where the city was just a few hours ago. And that's completely together around the boys that were getting incredibly intoxicated walking through the streets of a city that has a Dynasty cooking right in front of us. What a time, dude. What a fucking time.

You saw those parking garages I was talking about earlier. Those are the spots. Yeah, rooftops. Yeah, there's everybody all the way up. Look at this. It's still going. This is not a repeat. For all these people to go, like, think how, like, it's such a mess getting in and out of there.

Like, that's not an easy thing to go to. No. So, like, that's a lot of people. Yes, that's a lot of people. Still going. This is not a repeat. Halfway you have to go through, yeah. Jeez.

There's a sweet pool on, like, one of the roofs of one of those big buildings earlier. It looked sweet. Yeah, I am judging roofs right now as we continue to fly through the city of Kansas City. There's a couple other ones coming up that people are on. Sweet. Still going. Where do you go? What's the best location to go and watch?

The end of it because you want to hear all the speeches. Because that's the speeches. I wonder if they all kind of – do they just walk down the parade route? Yeah, you just walk with them. Like there's a couple parking lots up here, I think, unless we already passed them. That's where the car thing was two years ago. There's a couple parking lots that are kind of empty behind. That's where people will fill in.

Yeah, see. Look at this. Pittsburgh was similar where you line the streets and then where they're speaking, it's a big area, so everyone walks kind of with them. So I think down at the end there is probably where they're at. So once they get like a block past you, they probably say, all right, here we go.

So the entire city had a parade today. But you can't, I don't think, unless they do it in Kansas City, you've got to stay on the outside either way. They don't, like, close it as they go. That'd be sweet if it was like that commercial. It would be sweet. The boys are walking, and then the entire city's like a block behind them, walking down behind them.

That'd be sweet. That's what they should do. Yeah, the first parade had car stolen. Yes, it did. Down parade route before the parade. You can see it because of those trees. It was awesome. Right there. I mean, not awesome. Obviously, it's not Down parade route. Before the parade. You can see it because of those trees. It was awesome. Right there.

I mean, not awesome. Obviously, it's not what you're looking for. But as we were live waiting for the parade, we're getting a car has been stolen. It's driving down the parade route. What's that? We pulled the clip up. Literally, car right down the middle. Sick.

Blocked off roads. Just drive right down the middle. It crashes. And then it's like, all right, that's quite a start to this entire thing. They're calling a three-peat. They also said Chris Jones is coming back. Travis Kelsey remixed Friends in Low Places and it seemed like Kansas City had a great time

even though it ended with a little bit of a damper that we hope everybody's okay. Now, it is time for us to get smarter. It is time for us to get better. It is time for us to learn about the big boys that make it all happen. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go into trenches with A.Q. Shipley.

A.Q. That's A.Q. Here we go, boys. Hey, what a year this has been. This has been awesome. I hope you guys have enjoyed it as much as I have because it's literally the best day of my week. I love coming here, getting a little break from reality and just talking a little ball

with you all. No, I've seen photos. You're a good dad, a good husband. It was nice to get a little break. Yeah, okay. I understand. Nice to get a little break. Yeah, okay. I understand. It's been nice to learn some ball from your brain this year, AQ. What do we got here?

So we're going to watch this guy right here because he's unbelievable. Let's just watch him. Let's just let this go a little bit. We're going to talk through this one, right? Trey Humphries. Yep. Oh, now check this out. Did you see what he just did right there? A little bit. We're going to talk through this one, right? Trey Humphreys. Yep. Oh, now check this out. Did you see what he just did right there?

A little shuffle. Okay. Now, they sell zone this way. Now, here's what's huge right here. They're selling zone. This is complete play action. This is one of the biggest plays in the game. This is the first deep ball that he hits, right?

This guy can come underneath the tight end right here and affect this and make this play. But this is some of the stuff we saw from the Falcons all year, right? We saw where you get the center selling one way and then coming back. Now this is where it gets huge. Right here. See him making – he can make an impression on this play. But now Creed comes, seals it up, gets him outside, and then we go with the deep ball. Jeez, 31.

And he got lost. He just got lost. Got to track the ball. But that was the first big play Jeez, 31. And he got lost. It just got lost. Got a tractor ball. But that was the first big play in this game. That's a sweet design. Sweet design, right? And I think based on it, now, if he had a guy frontside here, it'd be this guy doing it, right?

Like, no matter what, it's always whoever the uncovered guy is just happens to be your all pro, shuts him down inside, gets him around the corner, gives him all the time. Before the snap, are they saying anything, saying, like, it's me, or is it just understood? So typically the way it's installed is they're faking the zone to the right. So whenever you step right, whoever is uncovered to their right is the guy who would be doing this.

You saw New England do this for years where the guy, they call it a whirlybird, right? So you come here, fake here, and then you come back and seal the backside. They're they call it a whirlybird right so you come here fake here and then you come back and seal the back side they're just doing it a different way so there's not a conversation before snap where creed's like me me me nope and he might say it just to echo it right but it's installed this way uncovered guy go seal the edge now is no great inviting him inside probably probably i think the biggest thing that can happen. He motioned down there. He motioned out there to get some leverage on it, you see. Watch him move to there. First down, two

round alumni section. Let me get a little better leverage on this thing and invite him right in there. Yep. Comes back outside, leverage right here. Let's just slow it down, let him get there, and then Creed help out. So it's eye-side shore. So the pack can get eye-side.

Bingo. And huck it. It's all so planned shoulder. So the pack can get outside. Bingo. And huck it. Because he wanted to break and take. It's all so planned. Everything's so planned. It would suck to play defense. Yeah, it does. Okay. Okay.

Now let's watch this. By the way, Kinlaw, first time all year where I thought he had an awesome. I mean, he's been kind of talked about. He was a first-round pick. They were expecting big things out of him. Has not played all year. He had a great game. But on this particular play, we're running a single with an insert here.

Look at this. Is it hold? He picked up his leg. Actually, that was a spine bust, right? Literally lift him off the ground and then bury. He should have said, it's a throw. He looks like he's a rock doing a spine bust. That's a flag. No holding.

They don't get holdings in the Super Bowls. That's the double team committed. That's the double team committed. And then look at him. He's off the ground. He's got two feet off the ground. Yeah, he's picking them up. Yeah, he got lifted up.

That's leverage. I mean, that's a spine bust. That's an actual spine bust. That is a spine bust. Arne Anderson. Boom. Triple H. For me.

The Rock. What? Pretty awesome. Al Gray. Is that who that was? Al Grady. He had a torn UCL, they said, most of that game. Yeah.

And AQ had something to say about that, too. What'd you say? What do you mean? I'm just saying a lot of guys get torn UCLs. That's why the elbow braces are everywhere. Oh, you're saying pretty standard operating procedure. But tough nonetheless. Yeah, yeah, certainly.

Tough nonetheless. Yeah, you're not taking away from Al Grady. No. This is much more common than people think. Much more common. Ryan Jensen had it. I think Brendel from the 49ers, I think, played most of the year with it. A lot of guys have.

Got it. But still a tough guy. Still a tough guy. This play I think we've all seen. Tough ending for my man Coach Wilks here at the end. But Creed Humphrey, look at this. Look how fast this is. AJ, look how fast this is when you watch this.

A center reaching Fred Warner, who's one of the fastest linebackers in football getting to the front side here. Now watch this. Boom. Now watch this. Watch him stay connected for another 35 yards. Throw him into the defensive coordinator. Oh, geez. That's Steve Wilkes right there. That's awesome. Oh, no.

Maybe that's when they were like, alright. Not doing this anymore. That's it. Steve, you didn't even help him up. Look how fast Creed is. I mean, it's unbelievable. He makes contact with him in between the hash and the numbers. Creed's phenomenal. He's unbelievable. What happened with the snaps?

Sometimes you get a little bit of the yips, and you don't even realize it. Like I said, we've had this conversation so many times. Like, you don't even realize it. It's the same thing. Like, you think in the golfer's world, it only happens in the golfer's world. Some mental block happens when you're chipping in golf or in the snap game. Punting, kicking, throwing. Punting, kicking. Some mental

block happens and then everything's low and you think it's good, but then now it's in your head. So now every time afterwards, you're walking back to the hotel, hey, Pat, where was the snap? He can get over that, though. He'll get over it. That was a good one. Would that be why Pat wouldn't say something? Because it's like, hey, if I tell this guy these are a little low,

he might just sell one over my head and that would be way worse. Yeah, because then you overcompensate, right? You overcompensate the low with the super high one. Now it's 20 yards going the other way. AJ, get off the block, dude. Look how fast he is out, though. And he's eyeballing Fred. Fred feels it. Fred's on his horse.

He takes off. You can't do a whole lot here with his leverage. And look how his body control. That's incredible. That's incredible. And staying on it. Creed's a guy. Yeah, he's a guy.

I mean, that's incredible. Only cost them $1.3 million this year. Okay, here we go. We got rookie contracts. Rookie contracts, though. Same with Trey Smith. So huge. This is two plays in a row here.

We got two of the biggest plays. Pause this real quick, and you're going to see it a little bit more from D-Butts when he talks about it more from the wide view. So just hear me out here, right? We've got Kittle and two receivers out here to the right, two receivers out there to the left. So as you're seeing this. What play is this?

So this is the last play of the game in overtime, right? And this is the one where we're going to leave Chris Jones completely unblocked. He's already said it was his fault. There's been a ton of conversation on the internet about it. It is what it is, right? So he reacts, sees him, right? They both go down, but here's the deal. That's the Will linebacker. They're obviously running a play action down to the Will, down here, center there. He should be man. He should be man out here. You're hot off here. If there's anything, it's got to be a sift. But we cannot leave this guy unblocked. He goes out.

He goes down. You got the best defense. One of the best defensive tackles in football coming scot-free. Biggest play of the game. Needed to get it. He was wide open on the whip route. Iyuk on the other side, wide open, coming across right around in there. Two options if you get this blocked up.

Hey, if they get this blocked up, you think Steve Wilkes fired today? A lot of consequences from this play and the next play. Well, Pat probably still goes down, gets a touchdown, scores two. Probably. Yeah, but do we know if the Niners are going for two? It sounds like they didn't even know. They thought it was over. They scored touchdown.

They're rushing the field. Kyle Shanahan's headset's off. Yeah, they're putting Gatorade. What's that? There's no way they go for two. Could you imagine Kyle Shanahan throws his headset whenever they score a touchdown? Gatorade bath. Yeah.

The whole thing happened. I think it's over. You know what's next? This is over. They rushed the field. Now you backed up. Can't even kick the extra point. What are you talking about?

Delay game, buddy. They get the ball. Who does? What? The Chiefs. Since when? Two years ago. What?

Was anybody going to tell us? Well, you're the one that's supposed to. Yeah. That would have been bananas. Oh, yeah. That would have been so awesome. Oh, man. If they score a touchdown on this play and Kyle Shanahan throws the headset,

throws the play call. Sprints to Perkins. We were robbed. Finally. Gatorade. Probably three Gatorade baths happened. John Lynch sprinting down the steps from the suite. Oh, my God.

Tony Romo. Tony Romo going crazy. I did it, Jim. You know, the whole. He's definitely questioning himself. Yeah, because he's just like, yeah, I love it. Obviously, Kyle Shanahan's not going to celebrate if he doesn't know. And then they've got to get off the field.

I love it. Do you think they're going for two there? No, I guess they're just kicking it. They're just kicking it. Because that's a 38-yarder. They're off to the tunnel. That's why they need to kick the conversation over. Well, they might have, you know, San Fran might have done it differently

because the Chiefs are going for two. San Fran didn't fucking know that. They're in the tunnel. Where's the confetti? Kyle Shanahan's asking. I was told that if we win this thing, that's insane to think about. But all of it obviously comes down to shit like this that you don't

even really talk about. That's an insane play right there. Yeah, the big thing is, like we talked about, and we're going to talk about it on this one too, right? You've got your two best plays called for the two biggest moments of the thing, and you get lapses, whether it's a protection call or whether it's a guard going down in the last one. On this one, again, I don't know if you noticed this when you were paying attention to this, right?

They only got two D linemen in the game. Two D linemen, two linebackers, seven DBs. They're in dime coverage, right? So you know Spaggs is going to come with cover zero. When he comes with cover zero or some form of it, in this case it's really not. They're just bringing six. But here's the deal. As an offensive line, we treat this as down, down, down, down.

So you've got your four down. Now you've got to find who we're sliding to. When you see the wide view, you'll see it. And when we talk about capped, you'll see there's a receiver right here with a DB over him and then a safety behind him. We call that capped. That tells the center and the quarterback he can come on a blitz. Well, check this out. We got Kittle in protection over here. With Kittle in protection over here, leave him for the pressure guy who's coming from over here. That allows us to then slide left. Send him to there, him to there.

Now 65 can block Trent McDuffie, and Trent stays wide. If that were the case, we'd pick this whole thing up. Purdy has all the time in the world. Instead, we send him this way, two for one over here with Kittle, and we get a free runner up the B gap. Look at Bolton cross his face, too. Look at Bolton cross his face, too, like sets AQ. Look at Bolton cross his face, too. Like, sets him up outside, cross the face to open that hole.

Open the window, and then this guy stays wide to get the window. Question, AQ. Yes. Now, in any world, is Kittle supposed to look backside there? And would a running back who's used to that more have been better in that situation? Good question. So, typically, they're going to treat this guy, if this was the protection I think it is where we're sliding Mike to Sam

or whatever, then you would leave him will to anything weak, then back across if anything. That's a lot of shit going on, right? At the end of the day, if we just leave him for him and slide left, we don't even have to talk about this. A lot of shit going on. A lot of the times don't running backs not know about this. But a lot of shit going on. A lot of the times, don't running backs not know? And like, wouldn't

a running back in that situation step up and realize immediately? I don't know. Granted, split second. It's definitely timed up perfect though. It's definitely timed up perfect on the run. But like, in this little quick like, even when you just started. Well, in his eyes, like, split second of it. Like, he's thinking he's got the will. Yeah.

Yes. No, no. That's the will, right? Yeah, no, I get that. But like in the split second where he sees, hey, 74's got him. Like is there any thought that. It's all reaction. It's all feel. And yeah, I mean. It'd be hard for Kittle to be back.

How often do we see Kittle in the backfield not running a route on his must have at that? Because all they were trying to do was get CMC right here on this whole shake route. Yeah, that was it. Which Shanahan was Christian, Christian, Christian from the mic'd up. Yep, but just didn't have the time. Because by the time he gets open right here. Real quick split second. I'm not saying it's easy, obviously.

I'm just saying. Sure. I just think in the two biggest moments of the game, you know Spags is bringing pressure, which he did. You got to have an answer for it. You got to have an answer. It was timed perfectly, too. Yeah.

Perfect timing. Think about McDuffie not getting a hands-to-the-face call. That was an unbelievable job by him. It was a very easy one where you could just accidentally brush the face mask, boom, penalty. He did a good job of not doing that. Hey, that was

the Super Bowls. Couple good plays, couple bad plays. Couple what are we doing, what are we not doing. Now what do we got? Best big bumps of the whole season? Yeah, I picked four that I liked. I picked four from the season that I thought were some of the best. The first one was week one. Remember this guy?

Yeah, remember him? He's quarterback for the Browns. Wow. You remember that? Yeah. That's crazy. How about this guy? Yeah, I was going to say, how about this guy? He's really good. I think they're a Tyro line, too. Who's that right tackle?

We got a full group of O-linemen up there. Isn't it crazy how from week one to week 17, it's a whole different team? Little do we know, this guy is going to burn his face and then still play. Yeah, Pro Bowl. Make the Pro Bowl. Jeez. Hey, good for you, Njoku. You have no idea the ride you're about to go on.

Shout-out week one. Shout-out week one. Shout-out week one. We get Wyatt Teller, who we talked about all year long, right? We remember this play. Boom, we get the little fit. I don't remember this play. Okay, well, you're going to remember it when he buries the guy down here

off the screen 25 yards downfield. Keep running. Keep running. Oh, I do remember this play. Keep running. Keep running. I do remember this play. That was not all. That was just good blocking, good leverage. Good blocking. Keep running. Oh, I do remember this play. Keep running. Keep running. I do remember this play. That was not a lot.

That was just good blocking, good leverage. Blocking hands inside. I think his wife retweeted this, right? She did. Yes. Okay, because Wyatt Teller does not get enough love, and you've tried. This dude's dog. Dog.

I mean, he was in the trade with Jordan Poyer to Buffalo, so that was like almost an even trade. It was Wyatt Teller basically for Jordan Poyer. 25 yards. Both teams win. That is a long way to move another man. It's incredible. And these are the plays I love.

Like, I love the effort plays. Like, it was the Linderbaum versus Devin White a couple years ago. I mean, it's just the effort plays, and then that is awesome. The finish. Yep. Let's go to Tampa Bay. Tristan Wirfs coming down on Denzel Perriman. I just heard Ty Schmid

go Hawks. Yeah. Go Hawks. We get a nice little flat route. He's actually short on the aiming point. He gets behind him, but because he's 6'6", 350 pounds and strong as a fucking hawk. I remember that one. Oh, boy.

Oh, boy. He's too big. Too big and fast. Too strongk. Oh, jeez. I remember that one. Oh, boy. I recall. Oh, boy. He's too big. Too big and fast. Too strong, too big, too fast. And again, we talked about this whenever I showed this earlier in the year. He's a banger at linebacker. Perriman's a banger.

Got suspended for a few games. Yeah. Oh, boy. Yeah. So we get him out the club. Gotta love this one. Jason Kelsey. Gotta love this one.

El Uchador. Is it overtime? Absolutely. This is the overtime play. Absolutely. Stud, right? This was a play they needed to have, right? Everybody thought Buffalo. Nope. We got this. We get the check versus cover zero. Perfect. There it is. Perfect play call.

Perfect ear hole shot on the blitz. Oh, I got him. Nope. See you later. Oh, he killed that guy. Yep. Go 9-9. Todd, game over. I think that was the last game the Bills lost until the playoffs. It might have been the last game the Eagles won. I think so. Second, yeah.

They only had one more after this. That team fell apart. Six straight. We got a new OC in Philly. We're going to see if we still got this. Yep. Kellen Moore. New DC, too.

How do we feel about that? I mean, they got legit. They have everything. I mean, aren't they set up to everything. Like, they have Jalen Hurts. But aren't they set up to be a good running team? Is Kellen? Yeah, and all he cares about is putting points up on the board. Kellen was down in Dallas when they had that little two-headed monster with Zeke and Tony.

They ran very well. They can, I mean. Tony has no idea we're talking about him right now. He'll find us out a few weeks from now. But Tony's a dog. And then things didn't go so well this year with Eckler in that running game. But, I mean, that was just a disaster miss. Devonta Smith, Dallas Goddard, A.J. Brown.

I think Kellen Morris can have a good time. How do you use him? Yeah, I do too. I think he's got all the weapons. And he'll be able to be creative with them. You love this guy. He's got dreads. He's a white dude.

That's exactly right. Quinn Miners. I love him. I love him. I love him. And I think defensive play callers and defensive coaches, period, hate going against this guy because this is what he's trying to do on every play. Again, we get a light box because they had some linebacker issues.

We get him up here. Oh, boy. Oh, Jesus. What a prick. Burn it. AJ, what happened? Oh, boy. Well, he didn't jump on him when he was down,

so I would appreciate that if they did this to me. He could have pile drove him right in the ground. He's got plenty of clips doing that, so, yeah, you're right. I that if they did this to me. He could have pile-drove him right in the ground. He's got plenty of clips doing that, so yeah, you're right. He took this one off. He was happy with the result. Gets a pancake, gets a loaf. I mean, that is super impressive. Broncos beat the Bills here,

too. Remember that game? They did. Yeah. So those were my favorites. Those were my favorites from the year. Here we go. Now let's bring it home, ladies Yeah. Russell Wilson. So those were my favorites. Those are my favorites. That's cool. Thank you. Here we go. Thank you, Shirley. Now let's bring it home, ladies and gentlemen, with Everything DB Presents.

Good D. Bad D. All right. Let's go. Let me get this right here. All right. We'll start with Bad D. All right. We don't like that.

We don't like starting with Bad D, but we got to do what we got to do. This is from the Super Bowl. Let's go to whenever somebody almost won the damn game. Got to get it out the way. So this is one of those situations I'm talking about. Pause it real quick. Obviously, fourth quarter, 16 seconds left. Huge third and seven right here.

Now, as a play caller, you know who's in the huddle. That's 12 personnel, one running back, two tight ends. Tight end, tight end. We all know who this is, Travis Kelsey. In my opinion, third and seven, we got to at least double him. Or if we're not going to double him, have our best man-to-man guy on him. This is our best man-to-man guy right here. All-pro Mooney, Jadarius Ward.

He's up here guarding Noah Gray. We got Fred Warner, who is a great linebacker. But that's not who we're going to want on Travis Kelsey in this situation. They run a mesh route. Is this why he fired Wilkes? I think this is a part of it. I don't know. Nello Gray is a threat. He is. He gets the ball a lot. He's not on a Mount Rushmore

of tight ends. Running a mesh route, he's going and looking for Fred Warner to pick him. Does a little ole. Fred Warner obviously has to change his route. just a great great execution offensively but matchup wise you got to get your best cover guys could you imagine he scores touchdown right there i thought he was biggest third quarter obviously i mean third down in regulation for these guys i mean i know patrick saw he knew exactly what he had pre-snap

just looking waiting for 87 to run into that window. Easy money. I believe it was the fastest he's moved since, was it 2019? It was the fastest. Travis? Fastest of the season for sure, yeah. How many miles per hour, do they know? I think it was 19.8. He didn't crack 20 there? No, did not crack 20. He looked like he was moving. Big fella. Especially with Fred trailing

behind him. He's moving. Something about running across field just makes guys faster. Last place game winner. Once again, 12 personnel. Kansas City ran a lot of multiple tight end sets throughout the playoffs. Now coverage. You got Logan Ryan as a nickel. I think Lenore had a lot

of moving parts for San Fran on that secondary. Lenore, when he played the slot, I believe he was their best option, but he was outside his game. Had Logan Ryan in here. And now you got me, Cole Hart Hartman with this little short motion, just like we saw last year with Sky Moore and Kadarius Toney on the corn dog. This was Tommy Jerry, I believe. You get the fake sprint right.

He's going to be – now right here, you have to get low and you have to keep that leverage because you know when Mecole Hartman makes that motion, you're going to end up having that low guy if you're this nickelback. So you got to get outside leverage. His eyes are inside. Patrick Mahomes was looking inside as well, so maybe he was looking at 15. But immediately he's out leveraged.

Travis Kelsey doesn't even look back. He's just looking at the jumbotron. He knows they've got exactly what they want, 15, Andy Reid. They all know it's a touchdown. They know right now. Not even right now. They know when, right now. Once that motion comes in, and because he's so low,

Ward can't just, because if Ward goes out there and just out-leverage it, because he's the only player with leverage, if he leaves 87, which he wouldn't, and goes and gets that, and obviously 87 just runs a seven and catches that ball in the end zone. But once he doesn't and he stays on him, Kelsey knows nobody out there will leverage against Meikle Hartman. Didn't even turn around, just looked up at the Jumbotron, 15 running in. Hey, we wore a chance, baby.

That's how it happens. I mean, a legal man downfield. Right here. What's he allowed, two yards? A healthy what? Healthy two. Yeah, no, I was just joking. No, there's people on the internet saying that.

Oh, really? Yeah, there's people on the internet saying, what about the illegal man downfield? I think it's two yards. I assume if the ball's on a three, the refs say we're not going to watch for that. Yeah, it's probably. And also, if it is, they didn't end up going further than two yards on this play. But defensively, we talk about situations all the time,

and I'm sure the Chiefs talked about this situation potentially being down here. This is probably a two-point play for them if they were going for two. So, as a defense, we always went over got to have it plays. You know, what's in their arsenal? What have they done over the last few years in similar situations? Playoff games, big third downs, two-point verges. And this is definitely on. We all saw it last year.

Corn dog. Yeah, we know corn dog. That's got to be on there. Got to have it. It actually became, like, popular because everybody talked about how funny it was to be called corn dog because Andy Reid just likes corn dogs. Everybody talks about his cheeseburger love. It's like, he doesn't mind meat on a stick.

Corndog is delicious. He will corndog the shit out of this thing. It's not prejudice. It was wide open last year. Wide open again this year. Three times now. Did they run it all year? Did they ever run it during the year?

I doubt it. I only saw a couple teams copy it. I mean, they just won a Super Bowl a couple times. Give you a back pocket. Once again, in this situation, I'm sure I bet that steve wilkes had to go over this but it's a completely different ball well pat said it was the last play that uh they put in during practice week think about andy reed as he's looking down at the play call sheet or whatever matt nagy whoever's calling it travis kelsey got mad at andy reed so i think that tells us who's probably calling

place potentially i i'm not i'm not giving away anything but him looking down and just being like Travis Kelsey got mad at Andy Reid, so I think that tells us who's probably calling plays. Potentially. I'm not giving away anything. But him looking down and just being like, Corndog, we're doing it again. And calling it in. Just like last year, baby. Just like last year, we're doing Corndog once again. And then Patrick Mahomes goes, let's do this thing.

I'm so pumped for them. They have to be so happy. Yeah. They have to be so happy. They have to be so happy. They have a coach who can draw plays to make everybody get open. They have a quarterback that can execute everything. They have a defense that's going to be together again for another year that's sophisticated.

Like very sophisticated defense. They have to be so pumped. They have all the advantages. And they've proven that they can do it. Fuck this team. Right. The guy's in there, man. Andy Reid. Everybody says a lot of things about him. One thing I know, I think Tyron Matthew told me, they do two minutes more

than anybody. Those situations, you know on teams, that's usually like a day. A Thursday and Thursday on a day. Alright, we're going to do two minutes. Good versus good. I'll start against their starters. If I'm running the team, if I'm a head coach, if I'm a DCOC, if I have the voice in that room, hey,

we got to do two-minute in these type of situations as much as possible. Well, it makes everything else better too, doesn't it? Yeah, and once you get into that mode, because you can go in two-minute mode. All right, we're struggling. Our first couple drives, not moving the ball. Hey, let's get two-minute. And everybody's used to communicating. Everybody's used to being on the same page.

And defensive side as well, because it's one thing to practice against it, but now when you get out there against these guys who's breaking the huddle, you know, you got Mahomes doing his thing. You got 12 personnel. That's always an issue. Yeah, that's always an issue for nickel packages. When you have two tight ends on the field, how are we going to match up with these guys?

Where are they going to be? Bunch. What's the run fits? So just a bunch of different things. Oh, and there's 202 million people watching. Boom. Every single step. So didn't know the overtime rules weren't ready for the play that scored two touchdowns

in last year's Super Bowl. Okay. Correct. Corn dog, dude. Correct. Corn dog. Isn't that a good D? Yeah, I'm just saying.

I assume, you know, the play that won them last year's Super Bowl would be probably top of the list. That was ran twice. Just from the outside looking in. That is so long ago, though. You know, you got to remember that. So long ago. The amount of plays that Andy Reid has put in,

like the amount of shit that people got to prepare for. Absolutely. Double passes, in the rounds. They definitely looked at it. They definitely. Because I know damn well when I was a coach and we were getting ready to play Dennis Allen Saints, it was like, hey, Q, remember when he was the D coordinator

of the Raiders when we were in Arizona? Go back and watch that game. That's what they're doing. That was forever ago. It was fucking last year. I get that. I really do. I acknowledge that. The Patriots would always pull from their old Super Bowls to play. Every single play they scored against

Atlanta was plays from older Super Bowls. But the fucking year before. Sure. Absolutely. Go back to 2002. I'm about to fuck off. Are you kidding me? atlanta was plays from older super bowls but the year before like i sure i agree go back to 2002. i agree but off like are you kidding me they had two weeks right to prepare but if you think about like what andy reed does this is just like another added wrinkle when you do all that like it also adds time into the other team's preparation yeah like when on special teams you run fakes like that's an extra 20 minutes, 40 minutes of that person's life on the other side that they have to eat away at.

And it's like, I couldn't even fathom trying to prepare for this fucking Chiefs game. Their low red zone, I mean, you just gotta have leverage. That's the number one as a defense. We always talk about no edge, no chance in the run game, but in the pass game is what you have to have leverage, especially down here in the red

area. Shit looks good on paper, but once it's a pick route and it's a legal pick route, you can get picked on one yard. As a nickel, I played nickel for a long time. Like, I was always communicating with the guy outside of me because I know if I'm getting picked, I'm almost like the last line of defense. So you have to have an edge. And to Connor's point, these, you go over those

gotta have it plays, that may be 15 plays we watch as defense. Those would be, the cornd dog would be the top two. Oh, and to go back to what Spag said, Spag said that all 11 guys on my defense have a high football IQ. It's rare. It's like that is not normal. Normally you have, you know, whatever he said, one or two guys that don't get it. It's like with that defense in that moment, you would hope that somebody maybe goes, corn dog, corn dog.

Chief's not fucking that up. Yeah, absolutely. But, I mean, you would hope that somebody maybe goes corn dog corn dog chief chief's not fucking that up no yeah absolutely but i mean you would hope someone i mean they ran the fucking motion against their all pro corner so i i just just say you're not happy about it it's just it's just ridiculous yeah i think the defense corner got fired bro yeah exactly makes sense oh now you're all in now it makes sense don't bring him to New England. We got all of our former players. If you don't play football, you're not coaching on this staff. Does Steve play? Steve's in Washington.

I feel like he's been coaching. Steve Wilkes. Steve, I feel like he's been coaching a long time, right? And maybe I'm just saying that because he has gray hair. He's been coaching. He interviewed me at a combine, I remember. For Carolina? No, he wasn't at Carolina.

I think he was at St. Louis Rams at that time. He played at App State in one year for the Charlotte Rage in 1993. That was a good squad. Oh, yeah, the Rage used to play. Was that Arena League? Charlotte Rage? USFL? Yep.

That was Arena League? Arena Football, yeah. All right. Come on. Come on. Rage just sounded like an Arena League name. um you usfo yep that was arena league arena football yeah all right come on come on rage just sounded like an arena league yeah it does you know like it just sounded like an arena remember when they were trying the philadelphia soul were like the they were on joey they carried the carried the torch arena league had like a two-year run it's pretty good or it's like it's going to be fun to watch arena is fun to watch, honestly. I think they fucked up the money, I think. Yeah, that'll happen.

Yeah, it happens. AB had it going for a while. Yeah, the Albany Empire. That wasn't the Arena League. That wasn't AB either. He was indoor football. I think it was the Indoor Football League. It was a different name. AB was using a different name for that. The Prophet of AB or something like that.

It was something like that. Oh, speaking of AB, because he's directly tied, I believe, to Kanye. Kanye did not get kicked out of the Super Bowl. No. But I was told. That story was not real. Wait, so Kanye didn't somehow find out where Taylor's suite was and then that same day of the whole fight.

Somehow find the ticket available. Yeah. It seemed plausible when I heard it. Well, for Kanye, who's worth a lot of money, I guess you would think anything's possible, but to figure out where Taylor Sweet was and find a ticket available right in front of it would have been

a very impressive feat. We would all have been like, you must be using C-Key. You must be using C-Key to do that. And then whenever Taylor found out, she got him kicked out. I guess that was not real. But he knows better, too. You can't just bring your wife in the Super Bowl wearing a see-through poncho with nothing underneath it. It wasn't see-through.

She had overalls on that covered the private parts. That was it. Sorry. My bad. That's fashion. Fashion, yeah. Kanye had a commercial, too. He got booted.

That was awesome. He would make some noise, I would imagine, if Kanye got booted he would make some noise I would imagine if Kanye got booted yeah well that was another thing as I was listening to Brandon Marshall say this like the logistics of everything he was saying seemed to be tough just as you know trying to figure out but it's Kanye so maybe yeah you'd be able to

figure it out but then it's like how is Brandon Marshall telling me this and not Kanye that was like this feels like a yay stream. For sure. As he's getting, I mean, we saw Portnoy get dragged out of the Super Bowl. Bingo. And that was being streamed as it was happening, pretty much.

It's like, there was a lot of things in yay, a spokesperson for yay. Who's that? Who's the spokesperson for yay? Came out and said that it was not, that was just a rumor. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy because you would think, too, Who's the spokesperson for Ye? Came out and said that it was not, that was just a rumor. Yeah, I mean, it's crazy because you would think, too, that if Kanye West got thrown out of a Super Bowl, other people might film that he was getting thrown out of a Super Bowl.

Yeah, but maybe he would have a mask on. Which even more. Yeah. Hey, who's this mask guy? Anyways, I didn't like that they tried to, that story definitely made Taylor look bad. Yes. You know, and it turns out it's look bad. Yes. And it turns out it's not true.

Okay. Shocker. Stop lying, people. What was Ice Spice doing with her hands? What was going on there? What's happening? I mean, we know what's happening. What was it? We can talk about it.

AQ, you know. AQ, what was Ice Spice doing with her hands? I don't know. As Taylor Swift donned a wine and then slammed it down. There were some hand signals for the devil. They're saying it's the devil. Devil, devil, devil, devil. Double doors down.

It's hard. I didn't even see it the first hundred times I watched because I see Jason Kelsey's overalls right behind her. And then I see, is Taylor actually? Yeah, I guess she's. I just saw that. Yeah. I literally just saw it for the first time yesterday,

and I was like, oh, what is going on? He's got long fingers. He didn't finger nails, too. Oh, that's probably what it is. See, the real problem with this is, at least for the conspiracy. Look at Taylor just hammering that drink. She's a football girl.

Yeah, but now we have to ask since she's with Ice Bice, does she do the same? Well, they say you are a company keeper. Look at what I hang out with. Yeah, I question your decision on that a lot. Yeah, but you guys hang out with us too, so that's tough to do. But like, she's, I question your decision on that a lot. Yeah, you guys hang out with us too, so it's, you know, that's tough to do. But like, she's chugging these drinks while in Vegas in between Tokyo Dome and Melbourne.

The Perth Dome. Melbourne. Melbourne, where she does like three hours straight, right? Doesn't she do like a three hour straight? Three and a half, yeah, three and a half, four. With what, 14 hour flights? Yep. She's a fucking dog.

Yeah. Legend. That needs to be, that doesn't get, she also went out all night, right, with the Chiefhour flights? Yep. She's a fucking dog. Yeah. Legend. That needs to be, that doesn't get, she also went all night, right, with the Chiefs afterwards? Yep. She was keeping up with that luchador, Jason Kelsey. And then she flew to Australia and has a, she's a dog. She's a dog. That needs to be talked about.

I don't know what Ice Spice is doing with her hands. Me neither. We know. And it's, the real problem is she looks to make sure she's on TV before she does it. Well, obviously she knew she was on the fucking Jumbotron. Oh, Jumbotron, no, but that was on TV. Was it? Yeah.

Okay. That's how I saw it. What about Jeff Goldblum when he was on TV? Well, Jeff Goldblum's just classic. He is. He's the man. Salt Leonardo DiCaprio didn't even know he was on. Come on, Leo.

Oh, sure. Did you see that? He didn't even know. He had his head down on his phone and he looked and he was over. Didn't even know. Did he get a ponytail? I think Leo had a ponytail in the back. Maybe he's grown a mullet.

Probably for a movie. Jack with the Bitcoin name? Yep, Satoshi. What's that all about? Have you looked into that more? I have not. You're the one that will give us the answers for that. No, you pound the pavement for that shit. I do not.

I do not. I do not. You're hanging out with Jay Leno. Yeah. Talking cars and crypto. F1's still happening? Yeah, for sure. Are they racing now or are they just driving?

No, no, no, no. It opens when it's testing. I think Bahrain. Shit, at some point. So they're starting to reveal their cars for the upcoming year now. Can't wait. The first race is in March. March, Bahrain, I believe.

Are they going to race this year? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They are? Yeah, they might catch up. They'll catch up to Max this year. Let's do some good D's, shall we? Let's get to it. Let's get to it. We already saw actually both of these plays. This is a wide angle, big third down. He was third down

at the two-minute mark. Once again, we talked about it. AQ talked about it. When this DB, when this nickelback is topped, right, you got somebody right behind you. You got him stacked from the offensive perspective. I used to hate this as a nickel if I'm pressing. I'm looking back, and I know my guys just sometimes just locked in. They want to do their job.

They want to be in their coverage. But they're giving it away to the smart offensive lineman like AQ. But in this situation, I always say don't let your disguise kind of be to your detriment when you have a job to do, third and four, third and five. So as this safety, when that pressure is coming, you got to be on this slot receiver. You got to be on this slot receiver. You got to be on Ayuk right at those sticks. So he's giving away the disguise, but he trusts McDuffie with his disguise. He's going to get home, get that left up,

and he's going to be in position with seven DBs on the field to make this play on the ball if 13 does get it out of his hands. So it all works together. Thank you. Trent knows he's coming. He knows they're fucked. Yeah. I mean, every offensive lineman should know that.

Because, look, if you go back, like what DB said right there, too, look, he's topped on this side and they're topped on the other side. It's too high, clear as hell, and they're spread wide. So you know one of the two over there are coming and one of the two down here are coming. Because you know in this third, you heard him come out of the huddle. Hey, watch the pressure. Can't take a sec.

Can't take a sec. Everybody knows Spags is not going to sit back and let Kyle Shanahan, Brock Purdy have their way, get C-Mac on a one-on-one matchup. Now, the Chiefs play a ton of man-to-man coverage, and they're going to bring pressure off of it. Justin Reed did an unbelievable job on Kittle, on C-Mac all night, whoever he was covering.

Trent McDuffie, I think he was targeted the most in this game, had the lowest passer rating in this game. First team all pro to slot corner. Does a great job blitzing, tackling, and covering. So Brock's going there because it's hot. That's why Brock's looking there instead of Christian. That's exactly right.

Based on the way they sent the protection, he's hot on that play. Yeah. Christian took a while, too. And that's your number one guy, too. That's your number one wideout who's going to be on a safety because your best cover guy in the slot is blitzing. So that's the matchup you want to go to. Bang, bang, should be right between the ones.

But obviously that pressure gets in the way. And most importantly, getting that left up, blocking the ball, and then not getting the penalty, as A.J. mentioned earlier. Man, they targeted Iyuk in the most important play of the season. He was the one getting the ball. They didn't forget what got them there. They didn't forget what got them there. What's that?

Just because later on. Yeah, but at the time, this is the most important play of the season. Who are you targeting? They're going, well, it was supposed to be to Christian, but then they end up throwing it to Ayuk on the hot route. I think Kyle wanted Christian. I think Brock was going to. The mic'd up.

Yeah, the mic'd up. He's saying Christian, Christian, Christian. But in that play, when you watch the replay, he's not even. See, and also in the mic'd up, they're saying no sack, no sack, no sack. So Purdy's just like, I got to get rid of this thing. It's their French field goal right now, right? Yeah. It just ended up being like a 55-yarder.

Yeah. Right? In two minutes. We're right in two-minute mark. How about Jake Moody? Yeah. Stud. Yeah.

What a way. Showed up. Wearing that number four, too. Well, he got the extra point blocked. It's like, okay. That ball's probably ending up through the uprights, just like Harrison Bucker's 57-yarder. Now, who is it extra point blocked. It's like, okay. That ball's probably ending up through the uprights, just like Harrison Bucker's 57-yarder. Now,

who was it? Leo? Who's the Wisconsin? Chanel. Chanel. It's a great block. You've got to get very lucky and unlucky on the other side of that. But Jake Moody, rookie year. So he went through his entire senior year. Went through, then Pro Day, Senior Bowl, all that.

Right after his senior year. And had a college football playoff extra game. Then he goes into a combine prep. Then he goes into draft prep. Then he goes into rookie training camp. Then he goes into actual training camp. Then he goes into preseason, which he's never had to do before. Then he goes into a 21 game season.

Kicking, kicking. This dude hasn't had a break in like two years. So for him to bury a fucking 54-yarder in the Super Bowl in the fourth quarter with less than two minutes left, dog. He's a guy. Shout out to San Fran, like sticking by him. You know, like legit. That rookie year is tough

because your leg gets drained, like absolutely dead. And when you're talking about timing something up, like a golf swing, when you're trying to time that thing up so you hit it square, it's like well, when you're trying to time that thing up so you hit it square, it's like, well, if you're swinging faster some days, you're going to be a little bit ahead. If you're swinging slower, you're going to be a little bit behind.

Same thing with kicking. Like your leg speed slows down when your leg's tired. So you have to, like, adjust how you're swinging and everything like that. It's tough. Rookie year is by far your hardest year. For him to bury one with two minutes left at the end of that entire thing, big deal. And sticking by him, he had a terrible

preseason. Yeah, couldn't make a fucking hit. Couldn't hit one. Yeah. He missed the one in Cleveland. Cleveland game winner? Yeah. Missed one in the NFC championship? Yeah, he did. Yeah, like, I think his leg was dead. Personally, I think his leg was potentially dead

by the end of the season. Not a lot of rookie kickers make it to the Super Bowl. That's a long haul. And nobody thinks about it because they do your job. And you're just a kicker. That's a lot of fucking. For two years straight, you're just like bang, bang, bang. There's a reason why they ice pitchers' arms and they take people off.

It's like, I'm happy you made it through it. Hey, Moody, you're going to come back bigger, badder, better than ever. Hell yeah. Like Tommy Townsend, rookie year of the Super Bowl. Yeah. Hit that shank. His leg had to be dead. Then he comes back and wins the game almost for the Chiefs.

Atta baby. We got some young studs out there. Absolutely. I didn't like Jay Feeley going after him. No, no, no. Yeah, this is Jay Moody's fault. I was like, why don't you explain this guy's fucking leg is. Better than that, Jay.

Well, I like Jay now. I do too. I didn't like Jay for a while. I didn't appreciate the way he spoke about kickers. You know, kind of like how American bloggers talk about soccer, about how, like, we're, you know. But I like Jay Feeley. I like him a lot.

I think he adds a lot to the game. I appreciate Jay Feeley in that broadcast. Didn't like that he just threw Jake under there. I was like, this guy's a rookie. He's been through it enough, hasn't he? Yeah. People are already telling him he sucks. But you got to deal with that in the NFL.

Got to deal with that in the NFL, AQ. That's right. And also do your fucking job. What have you done for me lately? Bingo. 54 yarder. Steve Wilks. That's tough, dude.

Great play. That is tough. Sneed's also glued to it. Oh, yeah. Sticky. And we already saw this one. Interior, once again, wide open. Another big third down. third in Jennings.

What is it going to take? What route? Wide open. Might score here if Purdy's able to get this ball. Look at Ayuk. Put him right on his outside shoulder. Look at Ayuk. Ayuk up top, man-to-man coverage.

Boom. Unbelievable slant route. But, yeah, when you have 95 barreling down unblocked. One guy you can't let go. Yeah, yeah. Don't matter what route you run that's the best best pass coverage in the world right here oh damn i might be walking touchdown there's a lot going on huh aq up there you got to communicate like it's there's a lot of moving parts everyone's got to be on the same page and people don't realize how fast it happens. Like this motion comes.

Somebody switches spots. It's like you just got to see it. Sometimes words can't even get out. And that's why, you know, Feliciano going down was kind of a huge deal. I feel bad for this kid. I mean, look at Justin Reed, too. They had two free runners through that gap. And Justin Reed just stopped.

Pump fake. Yeah. Great edge up there. They were to hand that ball off to C-Mac. Great edge. Great eye. Ayuk, man, right here. How many times have you scored a touchdown over the middle of the end zone?

Same route. So many times, man. This is why he's pissed. Yeah, just you don't even have to – doesn't even have to know if he's open. That was like – this is like when Rasheed Rice got mad at Pat. Yeah. And the ball was on the ground. Yes.

Yeah. It was like Rasheed Rice had no idea that the ball was on the ground. No. And then I assume at some point somebody said, like, hey, buddy, like this – he had no idea you were there. He threw the ball at Travis Kelsey. It's like sometimes there's other factors in it. Oh, my God, Ayuk.

Yeah. Well, and like that – That's a touchdown. The Kelsey Rice situation, too. It's like, hey, Kelsey's the number one here. Like Rasheed Rice, rookie, obviously the number two. But, like, Brandon Ayuk's the all-pro. Like, Rasheed Rice, rookie, obviously the number two. But, like, Brandon Ayuk's the all-pro wide receiver who had 1,300, 1,400 yards and 12 touchdowns.

Yeah, well, let's go to – Couldn't get to him. What was that? I'm just saying, you just couldn't get to him. Yeah. Hey, Rasheed's going to be a guy, though. Oh, yeah, he's going to be nasty. Look how fast he is.

Wait until they draft the next guy. He'll draft another speedster. As the year went on, every week he got better. I think he set a rookie record for receptions in the playoffs. 26, I believe. And to close the season. If you line up his last five games and when people were like, Kelsey's having

the worst year of his career, Rasheed Rice was having like 130 a game. And he's a Super Bowl champion. You know who's a two-time Super Bowl champion? Who's that? Kadaris Toney. Hell yeah. Back to back. Same with MVS.

Blaine Gabbert. How many Super Bowls has he got? Two? Congrats, Blaine Gabbert. Suck it, Drew Brees. Him, Jimmy G, and Patrick Mahomes

are the only quarterbacks in the playoffs. Blaine wasn't the backup for Tom, too? Oh, no, sorry. This is his first year in KC. First year in KC. Is he back there again next year?

He's on a one year, so hopefully. If he wants three. How's he? He performs well at the parade, I guess. He's the best. I sent a couple videos in. He was sending me some stuff. Blaine was having a good time?

Oh, yeah. Blaine doesn't mind a drink or two. No. Blaine enjoys a lot. Blaine's a big time locker room camaraderie. He'll fuck around and save people from a helicopter crash on jet skis. Just can't forget that. Go save a life. Fucking weapon. Now, there's

a chance that, I don't know the story as well as probably other people do, and he certainly saved fuck yeah, Blaine. Blaine was probably having a good time that day, too. He did not expect to go save a life. That's why Blaine's a beauty. That's why Blaine's a beauty. After it, he's probably like, did that really happen?

Let's do a year recap here. Let's do it. Is this good D, all these? All good D. That's cool. All good D. Thank God. Oh, we've actually seen all of these, I believe.

Come on, man. Jalen Ramsey. This was his first game back. Mack Jones giving him a gift. Great vision. You'll see this world route coming up, usually in a blind spot when you're running a zone defense, but great vision, great anticipation from five. Gets the pick.

Almost takes it back to the crib. I wish. If not for this unbelievable athlete. Well, Cole Strange got a little, you know, knocked him out a little bit and he ran out of bounds. Watch this. Watch this. Look at that guy.

Look at that effort. Look at that effort. Fins were buzzing. Cole Strange, you can't teach that. Do you remember how good the Dolphins were? Fins were buzzing. 70 points. Rolling. Jalen Ramsey's backins were? Fins were buzzing. 70 points. Rolling.

Jalen Ramsey's back. He gets two picks in his first. Good times. Good times. Top five defense, top five offense. Way to go, Gump. Big fan, Gio, out of here. Talk about secondaries.

Let's have a record-breaking year, shall we? Let's go, Deron. Nice. One of his nine interceptions, one of his record-breaking, what, five? Six. Sixes. Great anticipation once again. Eyes.

Now, if you're late to that flat, as a quarterback, big, big trouble. There we go. Is this the one, Jim Nance? This is the record-breaker. Yeah, this is the one. Yeah, yeah, because he jukes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the record-breaker.

Jim Nance, great call. Great call. History. And then right here is where, that was unbelievable, Jim. Damn near ruined the whole fucking call. One of the best calls ever. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That's not you.

No, I know. That's not me. I usually tie it to the Romo. I'm just saying that's what happened. My thoughts around this play forever will be Thanksgiving was awesome. I loved that. I got to see it live. Romo fucked it up a little bit.

Come on. Those are going to be my thoughts. Those are your thoughts for Thanksgiving? Absolutely. I loved that. I got to see it live. Romo fucked it up a little bit. Come on. Those are going to be my thoughts. Those are your thoughts for Thanksgiving? Absolutely. Great Thanksgiving. Love Thanksgiving. Yeah, it was one of my favorites. Jack Harlow?

Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Play the hits. Dolly Parton. Dolly Parton had a massive star on that field. Yeah, she couldn't stop moving around the stage.

And Daron Blaine broke a historic NFL record. That's good shit. Way to be an athlete. All-pro year. Hell yeah. Let's go to another dog. All-pro Mooney. Speaking of all-pros, we all remember this one.

I believe this was a third, down, third and four. This was clean. Watched his foot. Went, drive, right to that top shoulder. Boom. And then he shot out of the cannon. He catches this. To the crib.

One hand. I step in. Yeah. Come on. They He catches this. To the crib. One hand. I step in. Come on. It don't get no better than that. One hand through traffic. That's awesome. It don't get no better than that, man. He had a phenomenal year.

Obviously, he had some comments going into the Super Bowl week. It's better been on this. That was awesome. I think Kelsey talked a little shit. Yeah, that was awesome. Oh, you like it over there, huh? But big-time play. Big-time player on a big-time defense.

Everywhere he goes, he's been balling. Had a great year. Probably his best year this year. Hey, them with Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to be sweet. Who's that? Carter. Arizona. You think that's where he's headed?

That's just – since they're four. If Chicago keeps Justin Fields, which Kevin Warren, the new president of the Chicago Bears, he goes from running the Big Ten, stopping football, bringing football back to running the Chicago Bears. He complimented Justin Fields in a big way. Did he not, Zeke? Oh, yeah, and said they were going to build around him.

So is that to drum up trade interest, or does that mean, hey, we're taking Marvin Harrison Jr. number one overall? We'll see. If they take Marvin one overall and not the trades, they're talking about teams mortgaging their future like the Niners did with Trey Lance. Every team does that. They get up to one. People do very dumb things to move up to number one. Sam Fran.

They're talking about the committee. Sam Fran, Washington. Washington, yeah. I mean, there's a lot that is happening. If you get it right. Carolina. It's worth it. Winner.

It's worth it if you get it right. If you don't. Have any of the teams that. If you get it right. It's worth it. Winner. It's worth it if you get it right. If you don't. Have any of the teams that have done that got it right, I wonder? Ooh. Trade-ups. I mean, the Chiefs. What's that? They traded up to take Mahomes out.

No, we're talking one. Mortgage and everything getting a one. Yeah. Trade everything for what, Ricky Williams? Like the whole draft class? Yeah, they traded everything, yep. And for RG3, obviously, the Rams reaped the benefit of

Washington trading, what, three ones? I think it was three or four ones. And then Trey Lance, obviously, up at three. And they drafted RG3 and then Kirk in, what, the third round of that same draft? Yeah, it feels like there was a little bit of a disagreement on decisions there. And it sounds like behind closed doors it was all smooth.

We've been learning. But has it ever hit? With quarterbacks, yeah. It's hard to even think of any of who traded up to get them. I mean, we just listed off the ones I can remember. Because like RG3 obviously, offensive rookie of the year, but then injuries happen and it

didn't end up working out. So I think they would say it would have worked out if it didn't. But, like, aside from that. Draft. Bruce is saying Eli, but that's a much different situation. Eli got drafted one overall. And then got traded after because he didn't want to go to San Diego. I forgot that was after. Atlanta traded up for Vic, but it wasn't that big of a haul

compared to what's happened lately. He won one. So Vic? I guess it did work. Michael Vic. Someone did the most outrageous for Ricky. Was it the Saints for Ricky Williams? They're saying they're one of these teams when we trade out.

I mean, obviously New England's been talked about. All three of them have been talked about. What did Carolina trade up to get Bryce? This will be the closest. They traded their first from this year and last year. They traded DJ Moore. Tennessee Titans. Titans received 2016 first-round pick.

Corey Coleman, 2016 second-round pick. 2016 second-round pick. 2016 third-round pick. 2016 second-round pick, 2016 third-round pick, 2017 first-round pick, 2017 third-round pick. Boy. So that's two firsts, two seconds, and a third for Jared Goff. And those players. He went to the Super Bowl. They didn't make it to the Super Bowl.

No longer there. Nope. But they did make it to the Super Bowl. Yeah, but look at that, 2016-2001. Those are the top two. Chargers got a nice little haul in return. What, for the Michael Vick? LaDainian Tomlinson, Tim Dwight, Rasheed Caldwell.

I mean, look at the Titans, too, Derrick Henry. So somebody's going to move up to get to number one, and history would tell us that not necessarily a home run. Not necessarily going to work out. 1997, I mean, we're going back, back. 1995. But when you're sitting in those chairs, Jim, head coach. Got to have it.

Got to have my guy. All right, let's go back to some good D from the season, shall we? Speaking of one of those guys, top five pick last year, Devin Witherspoon. Should have been the NFL defensive rookie of the year in my opinion. I love what Will Anderson did. He's a pass rusher. But he was just an absolute dog from the moment he got into the lineup, played outside,

played inside. Everything he did in college transferred right into the NFL. It's a big time. I believe this was maybe a Sunday night or a Monday night game. You remember when the Giants and Jets were primetime for five straight weeks every single game? Oh yeah. Do you remember that, Bruce? Do you remember that? Do you remember

when we had to suffer through that? I do. And I think about the back copy of this basically every day. Well, if you think about Daniel Jones and you've seen his back copy, it's hard not to think about this one every day. I mean, good angle. Made him cut back, but just a phenomenal player, not only physically but mentally.

You can tell he thinks the game. You can tell just by watching the film, he was coached well in college, and he transferred right into the NFL. Just patience, being around that goal line. This is the back view. You gotta see it. You gotta see it. $40 million a year? Yep. Last

year with the actual guaranteed money, though. But he's back next year with Dayball. Law on the line. $92 million in the first two years. Good dealing. Good throw. Great dealing. Great dealing.

He can spin it. Unbelievable. Wheel and deal. Hey, don't worry. If it doesn't work out, it doesn't matter because the first two years, you're still making 92 million. But you're good forever. Don't worry.

You're good forever. Nice crib call. Here we go. Jack Jones. Best one of the year. Had a great finish to his season. You're good forever. Nice crib call. Here we go. This one, Jack Jones. Best one of the year. Had a great finish to his season. Antonio Pierce. Oh, yes.

Stood on the table to get him over here in L.A. Man. They beat the absolute dog shit out of the Chargers this game, but just great anticipation, great break. But this catch, I mean, one-handed. Watch him. Behind him. The back copy on this is absolutely sick. He's there too early.

Literally too early. The quarterback threw it behind the defensive player. This shot, I hope he's got this on the wall somewhere in the man cave. This is sick. Jack Jones had a great finish to his year out there in Vegas. Yeah, he did. He did.

What's that? I mean, Falker should be in New England. Well, you guys cut him because he brought a gun to an airport. No, we didn't cut him because of that. He asked to be released. What happened with him? What was his story? He brought the gun to the airport.

Was that the only thing that happened with him? Well, he had stuff in the past, but in New England, that was the only thing. And then that lady lawyer. Yeah, Belichick's sister. Yeah. No, she appeared to be. She had the short hair. She had the J.J. Watt.

Yeah, she did. I don't remember her. And she had that little, like, full suit on. Walking. Treating him like a dog. That's what they're trying to do. Yeah. Awesome.

We don't want anybody bringing guns to the airport. He didn't mean to. He didn't mean to. He didn't know. Come back to New Orleans. That's what he anybody bringing guns to the airport. No, don't do that. He didn't mean to. He didn't mean to. He didn't know. Yeah, he didn't. Come out to New Orleans. That's what he said. Come home, please.

I ain't getting anybody that's ever brought a gun to an airport saying that. Or a knife. Oh, yeah. I have to. Ever happen to you? Me? No. Ever happen to you?

Be honest, D-Bud. What do you do? Throw it in the trash? We're talking ball. We're talking ball. We're talking ball. You asked a question. Some people have a backpack, you know, every once in a while,

and there's multiple pockets in a backpack, and you maybe grab it to pack and keep it moving. And then as you're putting that thing on the thing, oh, no. It happens a lot. Wait. Especially in certain – Florida, Arizona, Texas, you know. Boston. Maybe you throw it in a bag.

From three weeks ago. No. No, okay. Maybe you throw it in the bag. From three weeks ago. No. No, okay. Maybe like right before, just forget. Yeah, that's going to happen. It's a scene. It's a scene at an airport. This is bad.

Shouldn't take edibles through. Nope. Either in your bag. I mean, there's a lot of things that maybe. I actually have unknowingly brought edibles through the airport. No, they won't find them. I think it'll be okay. They'll just steal it from me and say, like, can't have this.

We're going to take this in custody. Got his fucking edibles, dude. In her back pocket. 20 milligrams. Yeah, too much liquid is frowned upon as well, guys. Be careful about that. What's that? Thanks, Nate.

Too much liquid. Yeah. Over 3.3 ounces. Yeah. Do they check for any of that anymore? They do. Yeah. The liquid's a big one, yeah. Okay, that's good.3 ounces. Yeah. Do they check for any of that anymore? They do. Yeah. The liquid's a big one.

Yeah. Okay. That's good. Last one. Jesse Bates. One of my favorite free safeties in the NFL. Remember this route, Derek Carr. You talk about that bad copy with Daniel Jones.

This is a bad one, too. This is a route we see every week. Crosser, Zampezi, angle route, Texas route, whatever you want to call it, behind it. Jesse Bates absolutely all over it from the free safety position, not only picking it off but taking it to the crib. He had a great year down there in Atlanta. That was week one too, right? What's going on with this guy?

They got Gruden? No, no, no. This was kind of – this was, I think, week 12. Yeah, this was week 12. Who's OC down there? They hired – what's his name? Kubiak. Not Gruden.

Clint Kubiak. Not Gruden, yeah. Where at? Clint Kubiak, New Orleans. Just happened. Okay. But, yeah, yeah. Where at? Clint Kubiak, New Orleans. Just happened. Okay. But, yeah, so free safeties, young free safeties, especially once you get near this red area,

once you don't have that deep feel to worry about, just key that quarterback and make a play. A lot of times because things happen so quickly down there for quarterbacks, those eyes are going to lead you right to the ball. Is he going to get even better with Raheem Morris coming in? I believe so. I mean, everybody that's been around, he was probably one of – have you been around Raheem?

No. I'm just like the whole tweet. Coaches, players, media, personnel, like I've never heard everybody speak, you know, as highly as they have with Raheem Morris. So I would expect him and everybody else to get better back there. Great year this year. Yes, sir. Appreciate you, boys.

All right. That's it for this glorious We Love Love Wednesday. him and everybody else to get better back there. Great year this year, D-Bug. Yes, sir. Appreciate you, boys. Alright, that's it for this glorious We Love Love Wednesday, February 14th. Have a phenomenal Valentine's Day. AJ, I assume you got something super romantic up your sleeve for the wife and the family, obviously. Yep, that is me, Mr. Romantic. You're right.

Me too. Roses are red. We'll have dinner. Violets are blue. me, Mr. Romantic. You're right. Me too. Knew it. Rosaries are red. We'll have dinner. Violets are blue. Hey, Samantha, I love you. Happy Valentine's Day to my bride. Yes. Happy Valentine's Day to all the couples out there that are going to enjoy themselves.

Happy Valentine's Day to Connors doing a little self-love tonight. Thank you, guys. I appreciate that. Look in the mirror and say, hey, you know what? I love you. Because if you don't love you, you, guys. I appreciate that. Look in the mirror and say, hey, you know what? I love you. Because if you don't love you, you don't allow anybody else to. And we all have blemishes and flaws and things we don't like about ourselves.

That's the reality of life. But today, it's all about love. Let's find the happiness. Hell yeah. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together.

Boys, great season, you two. Great season. Love you, boys. Love you, guys. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye!