The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1081 - Welcome Back Monday, NFL Combine Recap, Jason Kelce Officially Announces His Retirement, Adam Schefter, PK Subban, Mad Mel Kiper, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 4, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys are back from their two week vacation to cover everything they missed while they were gone including the NFL Combine, Jason Kelce officially announcing his retirement, Caitlin Clark breaking the NCAA all-time scoring record, the court storming problem that’s happening in NCAA basketball, the new Patriots documentary on Apple TV, and everything else that we missed in our absence. Joining the progrum to chat about the passing of his friend Chris Mortensen, his big takeaways from the combine, what’s happening with the free agent Quarterback’s, and the franchise tag and free agent period beginning is NFL Senior Insider, Adam Schefter (30:42-50:44). Next, NHL Legend and analyst on ESPN, PK Subban joins the show to chat about the NHL, the newest brawler in the league making waves, and everything else going on in the NHL right now (1:39:24-1:48:04). Later, noted combine and NFL Draft expert and friend of the progrum, Mad Mel Kiper joins the show to chat about his week in Indianapolis at the combine, what his biggest takeaway’s were, which coaches and GM’s he rubbed shoulders with, and what he’s got his eyes on as we gear up for the NFL Draft (2:10:51-2:26:55). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome back to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this Welcome Back Monday, March 4th, 2024. This sports program starts now! Sports! We're all the way back and so are we. We missed you greatly. We hope you've had a fantastic two weeks as we have escaped life for a little bit, reset, refocused and re re-energize ourself to take on this offseason in a magnificent fashion. A lot of things have happened since we were on these microphones. We'll obviously address all of that and talk about everything, not only taking place now, then, but also in the future. As we eye the future in the next coming months,

we got some big things ready to pop off, and we are so incredibly thankful that we still get to do this for a living. Obviously, I'm not alone, and it's been great to be back in the Thunderdome with these fine gentlemen this morning. The Talks at Table is here. At Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Conman, we'll start with you. You went to the mountains, then you went to Boston. How was the break, pal?

It was fantastic. You know, it's always fun to get back to your roots when you go to Boston, but also ended up skiing a little bit, did some snowmobiling, did some little time in Denver. I actually got my Bill Belichick tattoo. What's that? I got my Bill Belichick tattoo. I was going to bring it up earlier. I decided not to. It's right here. It says

we're on to Cincinnati, William Stephen Belichick. I decided, you know what? This guy has made me who I am. Is that real? This guy has made me who I am. Is that real? That's real. Yeah, I think that those colors don't run, brother. Yeah, that's a real tattoo.

Okay. Hey, that's a good surprise pop right there. Yeah, yeah. Well, I didn't want to spoil it. And, you know, I figured a lot of people probably do have Bill Belichick tattoos. I don't know how many William Steven Belichick tattoos there are out there. So, yeah, I got that done. Where at?

Where did you get that in Denver? It was a tribe tattoo, a man named Justin. And let me just tell you, when you walk in and you see the guy who's doing your tattoo and he looks how Justin looks, you just think to yourself, you know, God brought me here. Okay? Because if that's the guy who's doing it, he epitomized what I wanted my tattoo artist to look like. So it was incredible. What are we talking?

We're talking tats everywhere. I'm talking tats everywhere. Fantastic. How's the gauge on the ears? We got big? Ears were fine. The nose bridge this guy had. Hell yeah.

Gorgeous. Handsome. I assume he's super handsome. White guy. Long dreads. Nice. Long dreads. I'm not kidding when i when i saw him when i saw the atmosphere that place has they're showing movies on the wall actually you know after

getting to some talking they said oh funny enough we we have seen your show your your your show has that guy who's always moving around he's always he's never stopping and they're talking about you i was like yeah me yeah yeah they're talking about you oh okay i was like yeah that would be that would be the show. That is how it goes. But, yeah, so that was a nice little trip, only an hour. You know, it was very quick in and out, and they were incredible. That's not your first tattoo.

No, it's my second. I mean, to be honest, I was like, this is one of those ones that it's for me. You know, this one's mine. Think about the people that are watching along. What did Connor do during his break? Well, he got a we're on to Cincinnati tattoo. That's mine. Think about the people that are watching along. What did Connor do during his break? Well, he got a we're on to Cincinnati tattoo. That's right. With William Stephen Belichick.

I mean, this is great writing. Great. See, Justin gets it. He's the guy. Yeah, he's the guy over at Tribe Tattoo. Clean lines. He gave me a couple different options. That was the one.

Are you going to do any arm workouts? Oh, believe me. Yeah, I have made a new deal with myself. I actually came in here yesterday strictly to do arm workouts. I said, all right, time to kind of trim that down a little. Anytime I step in the Hawk House now, I've got to pick

something up. This has kind of motivated me. I hope that doesn't freak him out. I didn't think about that until after. And maybe I should have before. That's an honor. He'll love it. Yeah, I think he should.

He'll love it. William Stephen Belichick. Exactly. His father's name is his middle name. So obviously his same name as my father as well. So it was one of those things that I just decided you might as well do it. Is there something misspelled? Is that why you're pointing?

No, I think we got a picture of the tattoo artist. Is that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I actually do have a picture of the tattoo artist. Is that it? Oh, yeah, yeah. I actually do have a photo of him. I'll send it to Zeke. That does not depict who I got as my tattoo artist. That is not the same man.

That's Justin. That is him. However, he did not look like this. If he had that pipe, I would have even felt more comfortable. Yeah, you might have got full sleeve. I was going to say, yeah. Let's get some more quotes. That would be wrist to shoulder. That's awesome. I'm happy even felt more comfortable. Yeah, you might have got full sleeve. Let's get some more quotes. Wrist to shoulder.

That's awesome. I'm happy to hear that happened. We are still very much in the, we would like to have Bill Belichick a part of our program if he's going to do any TV stuff next year. A couple calls were made during the break. And if he sees this, you know, hey Bill, we're big fans. Some bigger than others. We're big fans.

We love you, Bill. Todd Schmidt, I know the last three weeks, right, for you have been long ones. Yes. And I've had the opportunity to, long good, obviously. For sure. But we're excited to get back, eager to get back. The Iowa Hawkeyes women's basketball team

has captivated the world. Yeah. Obviously, I've seen you following along with Kaitlin Clark, who's now the leading scorer in all of D1 basketball history, and we will talk about that in a little bit because it is worthy of a full breakdown of why she's such a beast. You went to the Dominican Republic, got a little sunburn, hung out with the family. How was your break?

How were you doing? It was great. It was great. Again, a little scheduling snafu. Happens. Yep, happens. So I was gone that week after great. It was great. Again, you know, a little scheduling snafu. Happens. Yep, happens. So I was gone, you know, that week after the Super Bowl. People said I sent you to rehab.

Yeah, well, you know. Did you hear that? Luckily, I was not in rehab. People said that you got fired for saying something. That's what they said. Yeah, you know, I saw some of that stuff. Some people said the way I said it seemed like I was upset with Ty. No, actually, just exactly as we said.

It happens sometimes, and again, it won't happen again because it was just a communication error. I made a mistake, but that's neither here nor there. It was great. It was great. It was nice to kind of just kind of relax and rewind with the family a little bit. It is crazy. I told you this.

Anytime you go out of the country, I mean, I guess it's been, since we moved to ESPN, the year removed, you forget. A lot of people recognized me down there and were fans of the show. Really? In the Dominican Republic? Exactly, which is kind of crazy. That was pretty cool. It was really nice, but three weeks being off, it really did. It felt like two months, three months.

I went back home to iowa saw the family as well that was nice did burst my eardrum on the flight from uh indy to chicago and then had to just kind of eat it from chicago to see her rapid oh my god that wasn't great uh i still can't hear out of my right ear so i'm kind of battling that but i'll tell you what waking up this morning it just felt good being back in the saddle you and drew Drew McIntyre battling a busted eardrum. Exactly. Like Drew McIntyre said, I felt like I got a clamor kick right in the face. I'm not going to talk about it.

I'm not going to whine about it. I'm not CM Punk, so I wouldn't do that. That is what Drew McIntyre said. That's not what I'm saying. It's great to be back. Three weeks is a long time. I was very excited to get back in here with all you guys. The weather's turning. 75 degrees today. Three weeks is a long time. I was very excited to get back in here with all you guys. And the weather's turning.

75 degrees today. Exactly. I got shorts on. I brought shorts out. Tank top almost worn today. Tank top almost worn today. We're almost in tank top season again. A lot of people thought I was forced into not wearing tank tops anymore. It got freezing cold here quick.

And on the flip side, it feels like it's getting, maybe that dumbass rat, Groundhog. Yeah. Maybe Punxsutawney Phil had it all right all along. Don't do this to yourself. He said spring's coming early. I woke up this morning. Guess what? Birds chirping.

Yeah, a little sun on the face. It felt great. It's 75 degrees. Yesterday was beautiful. Could spend a lot of time outside yesterday, actually. Didn't have to wear a coat or a hat or gloves or anything like that. Yeah, the wife and I and baby, we went out to like a little plaza, walked around, did the whole thing. Holy hell, it's spring right now.

We made it. We did it. Good for us. Allergies, though. Allergies are the big thing. Yeah, a lot of sniffling, a lot of runny noses and that kind of stuff. But again, once the pollen count kind of returns to a normal level, we're going to be okay. We got about three weeks of dealing with that kind of stuff,

and then we're smooth sailing. Good for us. I hope this isn't a fake spring. It is. No, it's not. Why are you going to say that? This is number one. Okay?

This always happens two to three times. Hopefully that rat little Punxsutawney Phil maybe got it right. I don't think he did, but just be prepared for the 30 to 20 degrees we have on the horizon. Still not allowed to say the F word? Yeah. Okay. Only third hour. Only third hour. Only third hour. Just making sure. Yeah, that guy.

That rat, I agree. The relationship I've had with that punks, a tawny Phil, has been up and down as a kid growing up in Pennsylvania. Obviously, we're taught punks, tawny Phil, groundhogs day. This is fun. This is cool. Then as you get a little bit older, you're taught, Bunk's a tawny fill, Groundhog's Day. This is fun. This is cool. This is cool.

Then as you get a little bit older, you're like, why am I letting a rat bring negativity into my life? Okay, whenever you live in a four-season city, it's like we are looking forward to the sun coming back out.

I don't need something that lives in a damn hole coming up, going back down whenever there's 10,000 people around it with flashes telling me that, oh, winter's staying for a long time. It's like, I don't need that in my life.

No. So once I started having a sound mind and brain and reason, I started hating that thing. Yes. Okay? Because every year, long winter, long winter, long winter. When you saw a shadow, no shit. There's 10,000 drunks that have been out there since 2 a.m. You don't think that little piece of trash is going to get scared and run back in its hole?

Of course it is. This year, though, spring's coming early. You know what? He might have a chance to win me back over. I think he has. I'm back on it. What have you done for me lately, Punxsutawney Phil? This might be a new one because there was a couple conspiracies about potentially the death of a previous because they started looking to say, is that a clone?

Like Ugga? Like an Ugga. But I think Ugga down at the University of Georgia, they announced when the new one's coming. I think this was like a... Like a Pope situation? Yeah, like new character. Just nobody even knows. Just clone.

It's still Phil. Yeah, Phil, Phil, Phil. He still reads the weather, that whole thing. But I want to let you know, I think he's right with the spring. It's been fantastic. Speaking of fantastic, Tone, you're continuing to look better and better as the days go by. One half of the hammer. Dad! Cowboys, Tone Diggs. Also in the Dominican.

Yeah, also went down to Dominican. We did not cross paths, but went down there for a few days. Got some sun, some R&R. Did meet some people that were fans of the show. They were great people. Shared some drinks together. Got some daddy to-do lists done when we were at home. It was great.

You know, it's great just to like kind of step away from the Internet because there could be a toxic place sometimes. Yeah. I mean, the block was hot, too, as we were wrapping up our fall season. Big shout out to all the smoke boys. Thank you. That whole entire team. Obviously, that was played during the break.

And they were incredibly kind to me. That was filmed. The last thing I filmed before break was all the smoke. NBA All-Star weekend here in Indianapolis, Indiana, and then we all kind of went our separate ways and everything like that. Had a blast. Enjoyed the hell out of the two weeks. Got a chance to hang out with the family. I was incredibly

thankful for that. My baby girl and I hung out more than we've been able to hang out basically since she's been born, so I loved it all. We are pumped and thankful to be back. I am white. Sure. Yes, you are.

That's just a matter of fact. I don't know why everybody made a, I don't think that's that big of a deal. People are waiting for me to make a statement about it. I'm a white. I mean, that's just, I am, I don't think it's that big of a deal. We move on. Speaking of moving on, we are in the middle of a beautiful time for the NFL right now. So many rumors and stories.

It may be false, you know, things being spread. And the things that are being spread might be spread by teams that actually like the player. We are in the middle of ruining somebody's life and image season because we're hoping that that will draw another team into not drafting them so they could potentially fall to our particular team we can't believe anything we'll have Adam Schefter on in about 19 minutes and right now obviously not only with Adam Schefter but with everybody in the NFL community with the passing of Chris Mortensen it's a tough time Chris Mortensen was kind to every human that he encountered including us very thankful that I've got a chance to know him, meet him, and he was very nice to all of us.

But we'll talk to Adam Schefter in a little bit just to hear what he's hearing, the rumors that he's hearing. But we're in rumor season right now. We'll talk to Mad Mel Kuyper in the third hour about what he learned whenever we were at the Combine. But we got a chance to stop by this past weekend, and there's a little bit of a pop for the boy Mad Mel if you listen for it. And that's the fans getting a reaction. Big ol' Pat. There's a little bit of a pop for the boy, Mad Mel, if you listen for it.

And that's the fans getting a reaction. Big ol' Pat. There he is. He is a big fan favorite here. Thank you, Rich. Mad Mel. There's a little pop there. A little pop there for Mad Mel.

Did you hear that? I heard it. I heard it. But getting a chance to go to the Combine, we got a chance to walk around and we'll get Matt Bell's take in the third hour, but we got a chance to walk around and it's awesome. I never experienced it the way that I experienced

it on Saturday where Rich Eisen actually invited us in and I did a hit on NFL Network. Very gracious for them having me on during the coverage. Did not have to do that, but in return, got like an all-access pass. So I'm just walking around Lucas Oil Stadium, and all these teams have these suites. This is the Buffalo Bills suite.

Every team has a suite, and then they have an interview suite. So they have a watch the field suite, and then normally there's an interview suite as well. So it's kind of like their home, their office, for the entirety of the NFL Combine, which ends today with specialists working out. Good luck to all of them. But as you go, we're just walking literally through the suite section, of the NFL Combine, which ends today with specialists working out. Good luck to all of them.

But as you go, we're just walking literally through the suite section, poking our head in to see what team it is. Do we know anybody in here? I don't think so. So we go to the next one. Oh, do we know anybody? Yeah, we do know somebody in here. Boom, we'll go talk to Doug Peterson.

We'll go into the Houston Texans suite and we'll let them know that they need to be looking for all the terrible players, all the cancers that could potentially ruin an entire locker room. Those are the guys that you guys need to be drafting for not only this year, but the next 10 years, because your team got too good, too quick. There has to be some sort of penalty. Find the shitty players. Get in there.

So we got a chance to walk around, meet everybody, chit-chat with everybody, and it's fascinating to listen to the people who are actually making decisions, chit-chat about the coverage about the people and what the decisions are going to be made the chicago bears are obviously the topic of conversation with everybody adam schefter will be joining us in 16 minutes was on pardon my take barstow big cat on at barstow big cat dan cats massive chicago bears fans bear fan puts the pressure on schefter and basically says what's going to happen? And he says, pretty much the Bears are taking Caleb Williams.

Let me tell you what I've heard about Caleb Williams. Him not throwing, no big deal. Andrew Luck didn't throw. Joe Burrow didn't throw. Kyler Murray didn't throw. I think RG3 actually didn't throw. And if you go way back, Peyton Manning didn't throw. Now, Patrick Mahomes threw. Tom Brady threw,

C.J. Stroud threw, a lot of Lamar Jackson threw. A lot of people that have had success have also thrown. I think Drake May should have thrown, personally. Because he's like three, is he? Is he two? Who knows? Is he four? Is he five? Because J.J. McCarthy's moving. We're big fans of Drake May,

from what Darius Butler said about hanging out with him. He's a competitive dude. I was hoping thatke may would say i'm not gonna throw get on the field kind of see what everybody's doing you know what i am i am gonna spin it a little bit i was hoping that would take place he didn't he'll have his workout nobody's holding it against him you just kind of keep it moving but with caleb williams what i've learned is he just loves ball whoa that's what everybody has said, that they come out from talking to him. Now his teammates are saying the same thing. People are saying the same thing.

It's like obviously there's going to be a lot of talk about a guy who's being heralded as one of the greatest prospects in the history of the NFL, especially whenever he's playing in Los Angeles. He transfers to USC. He's already won a Heisman. He is who he is. He's very independent. There's going to be people that talk about him because this is the NFL's next

one, potentially. But everybody said his competitive drive, how much he loves ball is going to be the thing that nobody's really talking about publicly. That is the reason why he is the can't-miss prospect at number one. Now he's 6'1", he said, 6'2", 215, 205, chose

not to do any of the medical, which could potentially slow up the Justin Fields trade potentially out of Chicago because are they certain that Caleb Williams is okay is there a reason he didn't do the medical is there something wrong that people don't find who knows but the thing that I got from damn near everybody around there was like Caleb Williams loves ball and that is all anybody seemingly cares about Ty your thoughts on that yeah it's just interesting too because you look at all the stuff that people were saying, and it's one thing that you hear about.

Us, too. We were wondering. Yeah, exactly. And you hear about his personality and, like, oh, is this guy kind of standoffish? Is he very L.A. and, like, all about the glitz and the glamour and kind of not everything else? But just based on what you saw on Twitter and what he did do at the Combine, like, stand-up guy, you know, didn't give off the impression. Again, you know, it's a job interview, so you'd have to be kind of crazy to go in there and just be a prick to everyone.

But some of these guys in the position, like, absolutely could do that. But he was, you know, gave off the or exuded the vibe like, hey, this guy could be the one to run a franchise. Like, he's a good dude when leading up to it like that's kind of all it's been so far he just mentioned it yeah character assassination like you know again is that something where your other teams are trying to get him to maybe drop down so they can get him at two or three or wherever we'll find out but in terms of not throwing it seems like he won the combine as much as he could for what he did decide to do while he was there now we saw

peter schrager tweet there about him sticking around and shaking everybody's hands that ran the event that's like colts equipment managers every time you see a guy get hit in the face that's powers he's been an equipment manager uh uh for the colts for a long time since my time back there frog t everybody's kind of running the drills the last player he shook everybody's hand okay so you say that's choreographed bullshit all All right, maybe. Laura Rutledge then puts out a tweet and says, hey, whenever he stopped by NFL Live, literally shook everybody's hand on the set. Well, that's just bullshit.

Eh, maybe. I don't know. Robert Mathis from Gridiron Gang, he posted a picture and he said, Caleb Williams, when he was in town, came and met with some high school kids that are currently in the Gridiron Gang Academy, pretty much,

which I am very lucky to be a part of. I give $100,000 in sponsorships and scholarships to guys to go work out with Robert Mathis and Dan Muir, who are giving pro-level camps to people that would have never had the opportunity to have those types of camps. Caleb Williams stopped by. So it's like coming to Indianapolis, aside from not doing a medical, not doing a workout, and even if it is all bullshit, at least he's putting in the effort yeah

to do all the right things right and if he's going to do that as a quarterback in the nfl it's like even if it's all bullshit if he's putting in the effort to do all the right things i'm cool with it because you can see those and you can say well that was all choreographed premeditated that's not real it's like well at least he's doing all the not real shit yeah like this is good news to me in my eyes and i think caleb williams from my preconceived thoughts about like shut up dude yeah you know a lot of that whenever he's when his team and his family were saying he won't go to these themes he won't do this it's like bro there's been a lot of heisman winners have come into the nfl there's been 100 plus years of nfl football ratings are higher than ever. There's no offense.

There has been a Caleb Williams or three or ten that have come through the NFL before. That was my initial thoughts when you hear the family speak. But from everything that Caleb Williams has done, and who knows if the family's even said the things in the context in which they have been relayed. It's like, I'm a big fan of the guy. And I can't wait to see what happens

with him. He's a D.C. guy. Commanders are at number two. They're thinking there's a chance that the commanders are going to try to sell everything to go get him at one. But from my learning, from my experience, big weekend for Caleb Williams, the human as opposed to Caleb Williams, the diva, which is potentially some people's thoughts beforehand.

Yeah, like what Ty said, like the character assassination. I think the reaction to all those things shows how much damage was already done to him from his last game till now. You're telling me he went to Robert Mathis and he was like, get your phone out, bitch. Take a photo so everyone can see me with

these high school kids. I don't think that's what he's doing, but even just him messing around. I think Brendan Rice, he was on the podium and he was given his interviews as all the players do. Caleb Williams went into the crowd and asked him a question, just screwing around. Who his dad was.

Yeah, just joke who his father was. Even just joking around, stuff like that, I feel like is huge. For him, too, it feels like a done deal. This is over. All the BS that came with Caleb and everything like that. One for one. One for one. One for one. I wasn't trying to spin it.

That was just me moving it. I wasn't trying to spin it. You cannot count that as me dropping the pen on a spin. I was just moving it. But with that being said. Connor likes to play drums on the microphone. No, I don't. No, I don't like to.

He likes to run a double bass. He likes to run a double bass. I don't like to do it. Now, this is new you. You're Connor. Yeah, exactly. This is 2023 season, Connor. Granted, the season really doesn't end until the draft, but

we're on to 2024. I'm not going to drop the pen. Forget about it. But it does feel like Caleb's done. He is the first overall pick. There will be stuff. It's March 4th from now until April 29th. There will be things that have him fluctuate. We need to remember that

so that if he ever becomes plus odds, gambling-wise, we can hammer him. Because that happened last year with Stroud and Bryce Young. If you remember where Stroud was the heavy favorite and Bryce Young was plus money. Granted, who knows how that is. Yeah, like one of these pro days, if Jaden goes out and it is massive. Bingo.

And then Caleb something comes out. Oh, something comes out and people start leaning like, oh, maybe Jaden, who wasn't supposed to be top pick, is now the top guy, and the sportsbooks bite on it. Let's remember that. Hammer Caleb. Let's remember that it's Caleb. Yeah, because he's the guy.

Unless something medical-wise does come out, which could be legit, which happens. Well, and to that point, you had mentioned it about him not doing it at the combine, and that could slow some things up. But I saw this morning that the Bears already put him on the top 30 visit list, and they're going to get that out of the way as quick as possible, so it seems like he's going to be there. And Ty was talking about the whole L.A. thing.

He transferred there probably because that's where his head coach is. Yeah, if Lincoln Riley would have walked to Omaha. Yeah, he chose to go to Oklahoma. That's where he chose to went. And then I saw a tweet on the internet, which was doing very well, about how there's 700 million barbers in L.A. And Caleb has not gotten cleaned up, you can tell, since the season has ended.

That man's been at work. That man's been working on football. I mean, the way they talked about, like, you should hear the way his teammates describe him. Like, you know, because they're doing interviews with the teammates. They're doing interviews with, like. They're doing interviews with equipment managers. You hear how athletic trainers talk about this guy. The way they're

talking about him is like, don't worry about all the... He's a superstar. He's going to be the number one pick in the NFL. There's going to be some sort of shit that's going to come with it, but everything about him. I just hope that he has the ability to play the same way he played in college in

the NFL. Now, if he doesn't, he'll just adjust because he's competitive, loves ball. He'll be able to do it. But if he can be as elusive as he was in college ball in the NFL, and we got big dudes running real fast. Huge. I learned that out of the combine. It's like, I watched it back because we went down there on Saturday, walked around, didn't

get to see as many numbers and everything like that. So I watched it back at night. And it's hard not to just be like, so humans are faster than they've ever been? So humans have just gotten faster. That is just somehow, some way we figured out how to train, how to run, how to get off, how to continue. Now, get off, I'm not talking about.

But also, there are new ways to do that too. Well, yeah, every day people are learning new ones. I guess that's what the internet is. About new people. But anyways, everything about them, like the new techniques are evolving. Like, everybody is faster now. And we have the fastest human in the history of the NFL just took place. Congratulations to everyone.

Now, he's 160-some pounds, I think, maybe 170 pounds. Ran a 4-2-1 official, 4-2-2 unofficial. He was pumped that he tied the record that Ross had from years ago. Then he would later find out that it wasn't a tie. You actually broke the record. You're the fastest human to ever go through an NFL combine. Now, obviously, there's whole new measures and metrics with the laser timer versus the hand timer.

And Deion Sanders, Randy Moss, Calvin Johnson, all these guys in the past that are absolute burners. With modern technology and modern training, would Deion be able to run a 4-1-9? We don't know. But what we do know is Xavier Worthy is a rocket ship. And if you run that fast, speed kills matchups, you will find a home. And we want to let everybody know, he can track a ball. We were front row to watching this dude catch like a 60-yard ball that was coming down like a bottle rocket in a big-time tut

right in front of our face as we were on the Megacast. Here we go. Go, X. Oh! X! Same celebration. Come down here. Come down here. same celebration in front touchdown horns Unbelievable. Watch this replay, Matt. Oh, beautiful. Wow.

Kirk Herbst is breaking down the bucket. Look at this pocket. Look at the blocking, too, from the O-line. Look at all of them. We almost got hit by humans there. Hey, this is alumni section, first and ten. Shot Xavier Ward. Great shot from Quinn.

We got a chance to watch his speed in person, and him tracking that ball was phenomenal. But history shows us that being the fastest in the combine, not necessarily a home run, you're going to be a success in the NFL, Convict. No, actually, the Patriots just drafted two years ago the fastest wide receiver in the NFL, and he was a little bigger. I think he – Taequann Thornton, I think he's 6'1", 6'2", but he has the small frame.

When he's playing, he's been incredible. He's gotten very seriously hurt because of the small, tight frame. Do you think it's different because of the fact that, you know, 5'10", maybe you can move him inside, outside a little more? Because Taequann Thornton, the guy we got, I think he ran a 4'2", 8", or a 4'2", 9". He was the fastest wide receiver at the combine. He's a little taller, a little skinnier.

We heard Matthew McConaughey say, track it, X. Score that thing, X. If X gets with an Andy Reid or somebody that's very creative and utilizes him in the Tyreek Hill fashion, the Tyreek now, there's some backyard drills going on. Yeah. We're learning about. Too physical.

A little bit too, hey, broken leg. Too much. Anyways. going on yeah yeah we're learning about too physical a little bit too hey broken leg too much anyways so there if we use him in an offensive system that utilizes his you can get him open you can get him away from the gym coverage hopefully but he's also got to be a guy who knows how not to get hit yeah at 160 170 pounds he's gonna be taking deep shots hopefully there isn't anything other than than maybe legs being tangled or him getting out of bounds quickly. But we had Philip Dorsett come to the Indianapolis Colts

after he ran a 4-2-4 or something like that. I forget what it was. He won an Island or an Adidas contract. I forget what it was. It was something I think you could win an Island. I think you could buy an Island. John Ross won an Island. I think, yeah, Dorsett I think got the Adidas contract and then they upped it to an island.

Yeah, whatever it used to be for the fastest 40. Philip Dorsett came to our team, but we already had T.Y., and T.Y. Hilton was very fast, like the same exact position almost. I don't think Philip Dorsett ever really got a real push with us. They thought he was going to be able to be a returner because he was super fast. I don't think he ever returned in college or anything like that, so it wasn't necessarily his bread and butter.

Saw him do some magical things in practice. He'd go up and get it on some guys. But for us, it just never clicked. He would end up going. I think he's still playing. Incredible athlete, incredible guy. So I don't like the fact that he necessarily gets lumped into like, hey, fastest guys didn't work out. Because I think Phil Dorsett, if he would have landed in a situation where he would have been used as the guy, I think he would have had smashing success. The NFL seems much more

suitable now for ridiculous speed than maybe it was even 10 years ago. So congrats to X who said, you know, business handled was his tweet. I'd say so. Yeah. I'd say you break the NFL combine record. Your NFL future for the least, the first three years is going to be a luck. And from everything I've been told, great energy, great personality, great human. Well, and to your point, too, like if he ends up, if he goes to a team like the Chiefs, you know, where he's the last pick in the first round and he's on an established team already where he doesn't have to be the number, like John Ross, I think, was a top ten pick when he came out. Like, clearly, I mean, he's super fast, obviously, but wasn't ready to be the number one john ross i think was a top 10 pick when he came out like clearly i mean he's

super fast obviously but wasn't ready to be the number one guy right away hey we need you to go out and have a thousand yards your first year like it doesn't sound like that's going to be his situation if he does go to a team like the chiefs like they have mahomes they have kelsey they have pacheco they're not expecting him to come in and be like hey you got to be the engine that kind of makes this thing go like but but. But if he gets open, yeah, he can still... What a great third, fourth option. Exactly. Guy runs a fourth, two, one,

or whatever. I was looking at a mock this morning. He was mocked to the Chiefs. Obviously, that's where he's going to... Immediately, Andy Reid sees that and goes, all right, well, figure this out. Can he catch a ball? Do we know if he can catch a ball? Because our guys last year didn't catch. We still want a Super Bowl. Can he catch a ball? And then they show that exact clip, and he's like guys last year didn't catch. We still went to Super Bowl. Can he catch a ball? And then they show that exact clip, and he's like, all right, well,

that's who we're going with. And if he's two for five catching balls in games, you know, there's a chance two of them are going for 80-yard touchdowns. So fast. Yeah. So much hope and, like, optimism with that type of speed. Oh, yeah. It hasn't worked out every single time.

No. But we think it will going forward, hopefully. The wideouts were, I mean, the wideouts, like the wideouts and offensive line this weekend, they like everyone. How about Devondre Sweat? Oh, man. He's 366 pounds.

He's an absurd mountain of a man. How can he run in general? Doesn't make sense. I don't understand any of it, but he can't. He looks clean. He was just striding out clean at 366 pounds. Then Joe Alt runs a 5-0 something. That guy's a mountain.

He's striding. He'll never run 40 yards in his life. No. Unless he maybe scoops a fumble. Sure. And then all of a sudden he's striding out. Knees like this, though. We're talking perfect form at what, six, whatever.

Six, eight. Whatever he. The athletes these days are just bananas. Freaking. It makes no sense to me. How about Fisk? Is that his name? The Florida State kid. Fisk?

The D-lineman. Chop Robinson? Oh, my God. 4'3", something like that. These dudes are – that's what I'm talking about with Caleb. If Caleb's able to do – I think Caleb will be able to adjust. From what I heard this weekend, Caleb will figure it out because he's so competitive.

He doesn't want to be a – Of course. He's not going to want to be a guy that's viewed as not living up to the hype. B-word. Don't even say it, but we know it. But allegedly, he will compete to never let that happen, which is what people are looking for. But dudes in the NFL are just so fast. And nowadays, it seems like people are faster than they've ever been. Joining us now is a man who might have some more information on the happenings around the NFL.

Ladies and gentlemen, NFL senior insider for ESPN, Adam Schefter. Schefter, before we dive into what you learned at the Combine, we would like to express extreme, obviously, positive love about the passing of Chris Mortensen. He was incredibly kind to us and nice to us, but obviously we were nowhere near as close to him as you were I assume this is a hard time for everybody what an absolute legend Shafty what an absolute legend this entire thing he was the best Pat and uh our thoughts and prayers with his wife Mickey his son Alex and those are the first people you think of when you hear of his passing and it's just wild because, you know, he had been

through so many tough situations and had come out of them on the other side. And there were many times where we thought he was in grave danger. And, you know, as recently as like December, he had battled through pneumonia this year, was in the hospital. He'd been in the hospital a couple of times, but he had come out and seemed to be doing pretty well. We spoke this past week more than I did. He sounded good. He texted. We have a chain amongst some co-ESPN workers, and he texted us Saturday night, 7.46 p.m., was part of the chain. And then you get the news on Sunday that he's gone. Like, that was not when I was expecting him to go. You knew that he was fighting with all he had, but honestly, he seemed to be doing well. And that's why it was so shocking and devastating, because you think that there'll be some warning with something like this, where you'd have a

chance to go spend time with him and make some peace with him and get a chance to thank him and tell him how much you love him and appreciate him. And it didn't go like that. And so very sad. Like I said, I think most of all for his family, but there's so many people at ESPN that cared about him, that loved him, who he impacted. There aren't many people in your life that single-handedly changed the trajectory of your career as he did for mine. Without his support, blessing, recommendation, I would not have been at ESPN 15 years ago. And I think he was 42 when he started ESPN, as I was, and he was 57 years old when ESPN hired me. And I'm now 57 when he's gone. And so there's a lot of like symmetry and parallels. And a guy like

that has meant so much to so many that he will always be missed and always be remembered. Thank you for saying that. and more rest in peace you've done good bub you're echoing the sentiments of a lot of people that got a chance to know him obviously the manning family was very close to him so i got a chance to meet him whenever peyton was playing back here a couple times and everybody that he has encountered seems to say the same exact story and i know for you working with him tough so thank you for that as we move forward here now in the middle of combine season, draft season, free agency, tag, franchise tag season tomorrow,

it's going to be a lot for all of you to deal with as you go forward, but we appreciate you, and we appreciate everybody behind the scenes. Let's dive into the combine a little bit here now. Obviously, people are faster than ever. That was the big takeaway, and we have the fastest time of all time. But what is the big story you think coming out of combine? Mine is Caleb Williams from all the conversations that I've had with people. He's legit loves football, competitive human being. They say whenever you

talk to his teammates, they say the same thing. Equipment managers say the same thing. Is that the big story? What do you think the big story coming out of Andy is Adam Schefter? I don't know that we can point to any one thing. I always fall back to quarterbacks, Pat. And I always fall back to where they're going to wind up. And you can take that with the quarterbacks in this draft or where the free agent quarterbacks are going to go. We could go with this any which way you want.

But I've said all along, I'd be surprised if the Bears didn't go Caleb Williams at one. So what happens to Justin Fields? And I just, I don't think the market for him right now is as robust as the Bears and he had thought. So that's going to be interesting to see what they do. I know they talked about hoping to move on from him if they were comfortable with a quarterback in this draft, i.e. Calebs by the start of free agency which by the way opens at this time next week the tampering period but let's not confuse the tampering period with the actual tampering yeah yeah like i'm just telling you this time next week deals are flying and free agency by the time free agency opens on wednesday

at four o'clock eastern uh free agency is on the backside of being over. So the tampering period is really the start of the free agent period in which all the deals will be done. The Bears had hoped to say that they wanted to place Justin early on in the process. I'll be curious to see if they can get a deal done in place by next Monday, or they have to wait for some of these other quarterback moves to shake out before they can find a home for Justin Fields. So we'll see how that one shakes out. Then, of course, you've got Washington at two, New England at three, all the free Asian quarterbacks. There are a lot of different opinions on a lot of different quarterbacks in this draft. It certainly sounds like we could get up to six quarterbacks taken in round one, certainly five. That could happen.

There seems to be a mix of opinions. There are people that are huge Jaden Daniels fans. There are people that are huge Bo Nix fans. So we'll see how that shakes out. Washington, I think, I think Washington is going to be open to anything, including moving back in the draft. So there's going to be a team that doesn't get Kirk Cousins. And it certainly sounds like right now Kirk Cousins will have as his primary two options, primary two options, Atlanta and Minnesota. Primary two options, Atlanta and Minnesota. Maybe Washington jumps in. Whoa. Maybe. Whoa, whoa.

Whoa, whoa. Yeah, maybe Washington jumps in. Washington. Maybe there's another team. But I think the two primary suitors for Kirk Cousins I would expect to be Minnesota and Atlanta. There's only one Kirk Cousins. So he goes somewhere. What does the other team then do? Like if he goes to Atlanta, I wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota

tried to move up in the draft and tried to make a play up for a quarterback. But then you're going to have guys like Justin Fields out there, Russell Wilson likely out there. You know, Russell Wilson had the one year where he gets tarred for that one year in the bad Broncos year where they wound up firing Nathaniel Hackett. And he's still coming off a year last year, really through 26 touchdowns, eight interceptions. And you're going to be able to add him without compensating Denver and at a very low rate for this year, which makes him, I think, more attractive to another team. So there's a whole host of options, but I always come back to the quarterbacks.

That's my default. I'm going to go back there every time, and we see how it shakes out. Okay, let's talk about one of the quarterbacks you didn't talk about. Go ahead, Conman. Yeah, Shefty. Dan Jeremiah moved the sticks during the combine and said, hey, let's talk some rumors here. Baker Mayfield to New England, don't sleep on it. Can you give us

an update there? Is that real? Is New England thinking about using that number three overall pick on, say, Marvin Harrison or Joe Alt instead of a quarterback? Do you see them in the market for some of those guys you just listed, especially Baker? I think Baker could be in play.

I think Baker is more in play in Tampa, especially now that Mike Evans will be back there. I think Atlanta, if it doesn't get Kirk Cousins, will have interest in Baker Mayfield. And I'm not going to tell you that New England is not going to be interested in Baker. I can see it. But I think when we're talking New England, the first two names that come to my mind would be Joe Flacco and Jacoby Brissett. Yes. I could see both those guys who play. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco. Up in New England. Footsteps. Oh, my God. Are you kidding me?

Look, this is very simple. Yes. Who was the offensive coordinator in Cleveland last year? Alex Van Pelt. Oh, where's Alex Van Pelt this year? He's the New England Patriots. I can't believe Flacco's going to New England. Oh, where's Alex Van Pelt this year? He's the New England Patriots. I can't believe Fly goes to New England. Yeah!

He just knocked down Charizard. Maybe a Gary Vee-mon. I don't know which one it was. Wait, hold on. Where was Jacoby Brissett the year before? Cleveland. Oh. Who was in Cleveland?

Alex Van Pelt. Wow, that's really coincidental. As their starter? Could you imagine Joe Flacco and Jacoby Brissett being in the quarterback room up there? Mac Jones would have no chance to mess up. Oh, good catch. Hey, I've been on vacation brain. Come on.

All right. Mac Jones get right in line. You got Joey Flacco saying, come on, guys. Get the water and all that. And do this entire thing. And then Jacoby Brissett telling him how to. I mean, that would be a great quarterback room. We're going to have 15 quarterbacks in New England.

Let's get Conor a little more excited, right? Let's just play it out and keep him going here. But essentially, it's a situation where if you sign one of those guys, Flacco or Brissett, you still can go ahead and draft one of those other guys at three. And now you don't have to rush them onto the field. Oh, you can learn from Joey Flack Academy. Joey Flack Academy. Oh my God. See you guys at the Super Bowl. When? 10 years from now? Nope, tomorrow. Well, I've heard about the Super Bowl run you guys had. I have a documentary and you

guys don't like it. Oh, you heard about the Super Bowl run? That's funny because nobody else has because they don't talk about it. What are you talking about? In the dynasty? Yeah, in the dynasty. They decided to say, hey, you know what? They won three Super Bowls in four years. Here is five minutes to explain that entire time. Yeah, hey, Shefty. Patriots fans are not thrilled about this dynasty documentary.

Anybody giving you any information during the show? Because earlier in the middle of one of your answers, you got a text and I didn't know if they were breaking news to you there and you just got another text. Do you get breaking news just throughout the entire day or little leaks and little pebbles of things? It's well, we're in that time of the year, Pat.

This is Yeah, you get used, Shefty. Hey, narratives get built through Adam Schefter. Remember? C.J. Stroud's a doofus. Remember? Oh, yeah. That was last year.

I never said anything like that. Never said that. Alluded. Well, somebody did. Somebody did. Somebody in your position did. Not me. Not me.

That baby Schefter. Cognitive test. That baby Schefter. Mort taught him better. That's right. Shout out, Mort. Rest in peace. By the way, Mort and I knew the deal.

We went through a lot of that stuff and had, we were aware of a lot of it. At the feet of Mort, you learn to be very careful about some of the stuff that you put out there. That's one of the many life lessons that I learned from my friend, the great Chris Mortensen. No, we did not say anything like that about C.J. Stroud last year. You will not find anything on the record anywhere that says anything like that. Okay, so what we do have to watch, though, is, like, you have to watch that, right?

Right now? You have to really watch what's real, what isn't? How do you kind of cycle through that? Just because you got good sources? It's normally people that are trying to make it or have, like, a source that thinks they know. Like, how do we not get caught up in all the BS? Us us we're talking about for us jeffy not for you but how do we not get caught up in the that happens during draft season about people you have to understand who you're talking

to you have to understand where the information is coming from um i i i'm more of a glass half full guy pat like i don't believe that people are trying to dupe you and use you. Like, again, you know, I've done this job now. I've been in this business for 35 years. So I'd like to think that. You look good. You look good, Shefty. You look good.

Way to go, Shefty. Moisturizing stuff. You look good. 35 years. So I think that you have relationships with people over time that, you know, either they're going to be honest with you or if they can't say something, they're just not going to say that. That's it. And so I never view it as being used. I just that's just not how I view it. And you just got to be careful and selective and smart and recognize that these kids,

there are going to be some people, I guess, that are out to try to drop their stock, try to move them down a few slots. But I just think you have to try to stay as grounded in the truth as you possibly can, knowing that maybe it's not always possible, but as long as you are doing the best you can to do that, then you'd make more proud. Hey, we appreciate you, Shefty, honestly. We'll follow your tour account. Yep, that's right. And that rap sheet, you know.

Well, you guys can. I'm opting out of rap sheets. You're opting out of rap sheets? I'm opting out of rap sheets. How do you feel about that, Shefty? Shefty, how about it? You're giving him more New England news. He's like, you know what?

To hell with rap. Yeah, keep talking about Flacco, Shefty. I mean, only your notifications will be on. Tone Diggs got a question with it. Keep talking about Flacco, Shefty. Only your notifications will be on. Tone Diggs got a question for you about Pittsburgh I do believe, Shefty. Yeah, Shefty, so far the quarterbacks that will be starting next year for the Steelers are Justin Fields, Russell Wilson, Ryan

Tannehill, Kirk Cousins, Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph, and a list that keeps going on and on and on. A lot of quarterbacks to fit under the cap. A lot of quarterbacks to fit under the cap. A lot of quarterbacks fit under the cap. Omar Khan will figure out how to do it. What are you are the Steelers actively

looking for a replacement for Kenny, for a competition for Kenny? Do you have any idea what's going on as far as that and fields and all that? They're looking. They're absolutely looking and I would expect at some point they're going to add one of these guys it doesn't feel like they are in an urgent mode to where boy we're going to go make this move for kirk cousins on day one of free agency and outspend

all these guys i think that they still absolutely have hopes for kenny pickett which i think enters into the decision the ultimate decision that they eventually make about whichever quarterback they do bring aboard. And so when you're talking about a guy like Justin Fields, who we all know that there are people in that organization that really like him, is it going to be worth whatever they have to give up for a guy like him to bring him in? Or do they prefer to go sign a free agent like Ryan Tannehill or Russell Wilson, where you don't have to compensate the other team? I don't think they know right now. And I think they're still sorting through it as we speak. But all these decisions are going to crystallize here over the

course of the next week. And I do think they'll add a quarterback. I haven't sensed that they were in the combine, at the combine, going through quarterback meetings like around the clock to go get somebody in here to dislodge Kenny Pickett. So I'm not giving you a specific answer because I don't think right now they have a specific answer. I think some of those names you mentioned are in play. Some are more likely than others. I don't expect Kirk Cousins to wind up in Pittsburgh. I do think that a guy like Russell Wilson or Justin Cousins to wind up in Pittsburgh. I do think that a guy like Russell Wilson or Justin Fields

could be in play, and we'll see. Kirk Cousins has a grill now. I saw that. He got measured up. He looks good. I'm excited to see where he's at. I assume Minnesota really wants him, but back to Pittsburgh. Didn't Artie Smith and Kenny Pickett have a meeting down in Florida? Oh, yeah. That happened, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Bestest of friends. Yeah, there you go. He has no mustache, right, Artie? That's not good. Artie's got no... We've got a long time before the season starts. I mean, he better start growing it. He better get on it. Yeah, he better get on it. We got an update with Matt Bell coming in the third hour. Can't wait to hear his thoughts. Ty, your question for Shefty. Yeah, Shefty, it seems

like they do this every single year, and we kind of fall victim to it, where they talk about how many trades are going to be in the first round of the draft but considering how many teams are quarterback needy and there's going to be several teams kind of left out of the musical chairs of the free agent quarterbacks right now and you mentioned minnesota if they kind of get left out being one of those teams who moves up do you anticipate that we're going to see a lot of movement on draft night of teams kind of jockeying into the top 10 top 15 to get one of those five or maybe six quarterbacks we're going to get drafted in the first round i i don't i don't know that we could say that just yet i just think it's too far

out and every year we get a whole host of trades it heats up usually around the quarterbacks and so somebody that doesn't get those top three rated quarterbacks certainly could be moving up for Bo Nix or J.J. McCarthy or maybe Michael Penix somewhere in the middle to the back end of the first round. We'll see how that goes if that winds up happening. There are always moves. I just think it's a little early. We have to see where Kirk Cousins goes, where Russell Wilson goes, where Baker Mayfield goes, where Justin Fields goes, where Ryan Tannehill goes. Baker Mayfield goes, where Justin Fields goes, where Ryan Tannehill goes. There's a lot of quarterback questions that we need to get through before

we can forecast whether it's going to be active on draft night with teams moving up or back for quarterbacks. Alright, let's talk franchise tag real quick as we let you go. Obviously, that deadline coming upon us manana. I think we have what? T. Higgins got tagged over there in Cincinnati. Snead going to get tagged. Allegedly

Chris Jones' deal is going to get figured out with Kansas City Chiefs. Brian Burns, negotiations have stopped, but maybe he can still get franchise tagged down in Carolina. Any big names that are going to pop up out of nowhere? And for Kansas City, that Chris Jones deal is done because he was drunk on the stage saying he's coming back for three years? It's not done yet, but they'd like to get it done. They'd like to bring him back. And we're talking about, I think that they would be surprised if it didn't get done, but the other tags that are out there, Brian Burns will get tagged in Carolina.

Josh Allen will get tagged in Jacksonville. Michael Pittman will get tagged in Indianapolis. Justin Matabike will get tagged if they don't get a deal done. There's four tags right there, right? In addition to Snead who already got tagged and t higgins um i'm sure i'm forgetting somebody right now tampa has the ability to use its tag on antoine winfield jr if there's no tag there as well be another potential tag possibility there's a good group of guys right there that we won't be far off on altogether hey i appreciate you shifty for

that uh you heard him celebrate whenever josh allen was tagged down in jacksonville because Good group of guys right there that we won't be far off on altogether. Hey, I appreciate you, Shefty, for that. You heard him celebrate whenever Josh Allen was tagged down in Jacksonville because that means Calvin Ridley is probably going to hit the market. Calvin Ridley is going to command a lot of money in the wide receiver market, especially in the modern NFL. Although, you talk to people at the combine, young wide receivers are much better quicker. So the premium high-end OGs like Calvin Ridley is, and I assume a lot of NFL people will get their money,

but that middle, you know, if you're an older wide receiver in the middle, I think you're going to get mazed out. And then there's going to be young guys. I think that's going to be how that goes, but not for Calvin Ridley. And then whenever you talk about Michael Pittman Jr. getting tagged for the Indianapolis Colts, I believe it's on the record, they think there's still a chance a deal gets done with Michael Pittman as well, right? Yeah, of course.

All those guys that we mentioned, I'm sure their teams will push for deals by the deadline. I don't know if we'll get anyone. Maybe Michael Pittman could get a deal done by the deadline. I don't know about that. Justin Matabike, the Ravens have been working on trying to get that done. Brian Burns, I don't think we'll get a deal done by the time the deadline comes, nor Josh Allen. But Winfield could get a deal done by the deadline, potentially, I guess. There's been a lot of conversation about some of these guys, but those are the

tag guys you're looking at here, Pat. You're the man. We appreciate you. Get some rest and also, thank you so much for that tribute about Mortensen. You're the man. We appreciate you. Get some rest and also thank you so much for that tribute about Mortensen. I think the world need to hear that. And the most important thing, I think, about somebody's existence is how those who know you talk about you. And I think what everybody has said about Mort

has echoed your sentiments, which we lost a damn good one. We're thankful for you, though, Bob. We want to let you know that. Ladies and gentlemen. Thank you. I appreciate you having me. We'll look forward to all the fun ahead here in the next week or so. No bullshits. Please.

Any of these narratives. Okay. You got to be smart about it. You got to understand what you're dealing with. And you guys are good. You'll figure it out. Well, we'll see. We're banging on you.

Yeah. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, this is not good for us. We're not supposed to be the ones.

Why do you say you are good at it? It's like, hey, buddy. We're a dog chasing a piece of meat. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well, we heard this. Boom. We heard this.

Bang. We heard that. Whoa, that must change all that. Then draft day, we get a text message. Hey, everything you've been saying for the last two months, completely wrong. Tonight's going to be this. Then the odds change like 1,000 points immediately upon us saying that. People know.

If you can get the proper narrative out there, that could potentially drop somebody's draft stock publicly. A couple GMs that we spoke to said, if any general managers are listening to anything anybody in the media is saying, they need not be general managers anymore. Okay. Because I asked a few that we were getting a chance to talk to and hang out with.

I'm like, that C.J. Stroud thing that took place last year, how do I know something's just complete bullshit? Just like what I asked Schefter, because I don't want us to be a part of it. Nope. These are kids' dreams. This is their lives. They worked their entire lives for this. Now, I'm not saying they're not paid.

Caleb Williams made $10 million the last two years at USC. Pretty sweet. So I'm not saying their lives haven't already been changed but like making it to the nfl this is a dream i don't want to be a part of any you know illusion to work anybody so i started asking them it's like uh none of us are paying attention to any of the stuff going on and if they are should not they won't be in our seats for too long so what i'm hearing is everything that's talked about media-wise, although it might be accurate, is not heard by anybody that makes actual decisions. Good to know.

That is good to know. Yeah, relevant. So we're not ruining dreams by saying if we happen to be a part of something that is absolute bullshit is what I heard immediately to these GMs that I was talking to. Well, it also goes to how we have always viewed the draft because of how you viewed the draft. Who knows?

Any of them. I mean, you could take even the lock that Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to be a superstar Hall of Famer. There is still a chance that he isn't. I doubt. I doubt as well. Same with Joe Walt. There's a chance. But there is a chance.

There's a chance. But you still have to not just support, but celebrate support but kind of like celebrate what these kids have accomplished because it is so unbelievable. You start looking at the percentages of who makes it and who's considered a bust and everything like that. It's like there's a lot more that don't make it than do make it, which is why the NFL's ratings are only going up and up. You got to be a real dude, not only physically but mentally.

A lot of people can run fast. A lot of people can maybe throw a ball for it. But do you know where to put the ball, when to put the ball, how to put the ball, whenever the lights are the brightest and the dudes that are chasing you are the biggest, strongest, fastest they've ever been. Can you perform all that? You can't know until the time comes. And it's like, let alone the money in your pocket, but now you've got some free time as well. How do you handle that? Do you get better? Do you get worse? It's like so many guessing games. So much of it now is orchestrated at the combine. Pro days even I'm hearing.

Oh, yeah. So these pro days that we all like, you know, well, guys will throw out their pro days. They've all kind of just become like a rehearsed practice. Like you hear some of these, you know, scouts talk. They're like pro days used to be a lot better because we used to be able to be like, okay, we want you to do this now. And like out of nowhere we want you to do this now.

And like out of nowhere, we want you to do this. Now the Pro Days for quarterbacks at least are being run by the quarterback guru. And they've done that 15, that exact drill 15 times. So it's like the scouts and the people that are making the decisions, it's like even Pro Days are hard to get get a good read on if somebody somebody or not it's like their jobs have gotten more difficult i think even though we have more information now it's like it's it's difficult to find who's going to be a guy and who's not you can say this though with all that scripting and all that practicing your pro day better look really really good it looks bad that's that says a lot but like yeah with this week coming up, I had a reminder in my phone to block or mute all of the accounts that,

you know, you can't trust fully. Let's just stick to Ian. Let's stick to Shafty. Let's stick to the guys that you know are double-checking, triple-checking, and maybe not. And they might be wrong. Of course. They might get gut.

Sure. Things change. But 35 years of sources. And Rap, he looks like he's 12, but he's been in it 15, 20 years probably at this point. It's like, they know, but boy, those rumor accounts on Twitter, they're

going to eat. This is I cannot wait to see. Heartbreaking. Colin. We heard while eating a burrito in his college time, he did not use a napkin to wipe his mouth.

Now people are wondering, is he professional enough to be in the NFL? Damn, that's a shame. With a picture of sad face. And it'll just get retweeted. And then all of a sudden it's like, is that guy a prick? What did he. What's going on here?

He wiped his hand with his face. How about that Dylan Lube kid? Oh, yeah. Come down, suck it in the middle of the thing. UNH superstar. I mean, he's lived in New Hampshire. Are you kidding me? He's got live free or die probably running through his veins.

You want that guy. Okay. Yeah. Cause I was on the air when it happened and Rich Eisen said New Hampshire product. And I almost said live free or die probably running through his veins. You want that guy. Okay, yeah, because I was on the air when it happened, and Rich Eisen said New Hampshire product, and I almost said live free or die, but I didn't remember if it was New Hampshire or Rhode Island. Of course, yeah, yeah, they get mixed up together, but yeah, it is New Hampshire.

I didn't want to get it. It was right there. It was right there about to come. And I hope that I helped him out, because immediately upon seeing it, I said, I want that guy on our team. Like, is this stock up or stock down? Way up.

It's up. Through the roof. If you're a guy that nobody knows exists, they come out, run well, do an entire thing, and then in the camp, you're doing it. It's like, that guy's going to be a special teams demon right there. Now, granted, he's going to get some carries. I assume he's going to get some carries for a team.

But that's a human I would like to see covering a kickoff, which is getting new rules. Kickoff's going to stay, though. Yes. Which is good news. Good rules. Feels like the special teams coordinator, Coach Riz, down there in New Orleans pieced it together alongside a couple other OGs, presented it to the owners who are going to

vote on it, but it feels like we're not getting the Bush League amateur XFL kickoff, and we are getting an answer, and the foot is staying in football. Don't love that there's no surprise onside kicks anymore. Yeah, that's... Come on. A couple of us OGs, Seabass, Akers, Mason Crosby, myself, love those. Let's make you mouth. ...are happening all around us, and we're

lucky to be covering it. It's great to be back after a two-week vacation that I will say we were well-rested and very relaxed, but missed the hell out of doing this every single day. Shout-out to SportsCenter, full on time. Yeah, got it. Got it, SportsCenter. Love you, SportsCenter. SportsCenter people love us, obviously. They've got an extra couple hours.

Excited to watch that as I was away. Very thankful for that, but it is amazing to be back alongside the Toxic Table. SportsCenter people love us, obviously. They've got an extra couple hours. Excited to watch that as I was away. Very thankful for that, but it is amazing to be back alongside the Toxic Table at Boston Corner in that Ty Schmidt sweet shirt today. I appreciate that. I had a few new ones left over that I decided, you know, I'll save these for when we get back, and this just happened to be the first one. Purple, why not? Yeah, purple, why not?

Purple's a great color. Love purple. Purple's a great color. We're all Mustangs here. One half of the hammer. Cowboys, Tone Diggs is a Mustang. Tone, how you doing, bud? I am doing unbelievable.

Probably never better in my entire life. Wow. Okay. Tony. Up and up. I like that a lot. At Bubba Gumpino, the other half of the hammer. Bad. Cowboys, that's got to feel good to hear that out of the Hammer down boy. The boys are juiced to be back. We're ready for this. You know, I like the Miami Dolphins.

Top of the list, the NFLPA report card. That's our Super Bowl. Yeah, joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion, now winner. COVID survivor, father of 10. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who's, for the 14th straight year,

went onto a boat with a bunch of Ohio people. That's right. A.J. Hawk. Yeah, A.J. A.J., you're glowing. How are you doing, pal? Good to see you. Good to see you guys.

I don't have any new nice tattoos on my underarm, but I tell you what, Common, I appreciate your passion for Bill Belichick. That's amazing. Yeah, what A.J. Hawk is referring to is what we learned to start the show, is that during his vacation in Colorado, Boston Connor went to a white man with dreads named Justin, a tribe tattoo in Denver, and got, we're on to Cincinnati,

quoted by, obviously, William Stephen Belichick on his right bicep. Now, A.J., you noticed the same thing I did. What's that? I wasn't flexing, okay? I could have been flexing to avoid this, but I said, you noticed the same thing I did. What's that? I wasn't flexing, okay? I could have been flexing to avoid this, but I said, you know what? I'm just going to let me be me. And here we are now. Hey, nice tricep, you fat prick.

Okay. I understand what you guys are doing here. That's a straight on angle. That's the angle. That is the angle. That particular part of the body is always going to get showcased in. So he said he has been. Gravity.

Last two days. He's gone after the arms a little bit. I knew I should have. So it didn't just look like a saggy. I knew I should have. Canvas. I knew it. Is that thing getting stretched out already?

I knew I should have flexed. That thing was. I'm going to regret this for the rest of my life. That quote was initially this big. Now, obviously, with the one week of stretch with the hang, it's gotten a little bit larger. But we appreciate your

commitment, Pat. AJ, I don't know if you know this. The Pats fans hate the Dynasty documentary. They do not like it at all. I guess everybody who hates the Patriots would love it, but what Connor's saying is, what a bunch of crap. What an absolute hack job.

They got everybody in that thing, too. Everybody's in it. Everybody's in it, and everything that you're seeing is like, oh man, I would like to see more of that. I'd like to hear more from that guy. I'd like to see what happened behind the scenes on that decision, but instead, because everyone knows the success, it's not about

the success. It's about the success it's about the stuff that is kind of riddled throughout the entire season i mean or dynasty excuse me i've only watched the first three episodes because after the third episode i had such a bad taste in my mouth i thought about not watching another episode so now if you're not a patriots fan yeah you hear that bingo maybe you want to go check it out you should if you want to get a different look on the dynasty which is what they might have been going for crafts in it though i think bill's in it yeah crafts adam's in it tom's in it it's not like a hit piece though it's not some patriots hit piece by any means well you should watch it because have you seen all of it i haven't seen all of it i

understand that you guys are very upset that they didn't focus enough on the championships and everything you did but that like same reason people watch nascar to see the wrecks like we want to see behind the scenes. We know how great they were. Agreed. Hey, listen. On NASCAR, for sure, that Pennzo 400 out in Vegas yesterday, those boys were running. Those boys

were running. Shout out to them. I actually turned that on for a little bit. Close finish. Close finish over there to Pennzo 400. AJ Cole, punter for the Las Vegas Raiders. Did the drivers start your engines? Oh, wow. Sweet.

So I love that. They got the brand out there. What an honor for him. But whenever it comes to that type of stuff, I thought I was getting a glimpse into the greatness. That's what I thought I was going to get. I haven't watched it yet, but with how pissed he is, I'm going to now. So I guess that's good news.

You have to. What do other people think, though? Okay, they didn't make this for the Patriots fans. They made it for everybody. Do non-Patriots fans enjoy this? I don't know. We're going to find out. I guess we're going to find out.

I watched the first three episodes, and I did fall asleep during the third one. But the first two episodes, it was late. It was late. It was late. These half-bottle whiskey deep. But the first two episodes were were sweet i thought like the especially the first one where it is like right after brady gets drafted and it shows him buying a condo from ty law and like who he was living with and just like how much different

he like that they have like home video recordings of like like his roommate had a camera and recorded everything so like having all that stuff and being able to see it whereas you would you would never see that type of stuff. Like that was really cool to see, but I haven't, I mean, and again, I'm not a Patriots fan,

so I wasn't nitpicking like, Oh, I want to hear more. I was kind of just like, Oh, whatever. I'll do whatever they want to show me. I'm good with Bill Burr.

I believe was in that. He was, he'll be joining us tomorrow at 1230. I'm excited to get his take on it, you know? Cause I can't wait. If I would have known, you know?

Oh yeah, exactly. I think that's how he's going to be? Yes, I do. Ty, he is the star of the show. He's the best one in the interview process, at least throughout the first three episodes. He is hilarious.

Yeah, but maybe they get to the whole greatness. No, they don't. The next episode is titled Spygate. Then the one after that, which, again, I am interested in that. I do want to learn more about that. The one after Spygate, the thumbnail photo is Hernandez getting arrested. That's the whole episode. I want to learn about that.

Those are the things I want to learn about. I'm strictly upset that the first three episodes, instead of going Super Bowl to Super Bowl to Super Bowl, it is a lot of the history, which is great learning about Tom and how he started up, how Bob Kraft bought the team, how they brought in Bill Belichick, how the team was a big tuna before they brought in Belichick. All that stuff is great.

But to span the dynasty, the reason they're the dynasty, the three Super Bowls, to span that in five minutes is absurd. They did gloss over it quite a bit. Just snap of the fingers. Yep, that happened. All right, I can't wait to watch. We have some breaking news out of a press conference that maybe hasn't even started yet. Okay, so Adam Schefter at least got the script, I guess, from Jason Kelsey's press conference

that was scheduled to start eight minutes ago. Jason Kelsey is retiring from the NFL, and we'd like to say, hey, Jason, way to go, bub. Congrats. Way to go, Jason. What a run. What an absolutely legendary career a lot of people even centers and everybody has him down as the greatest center to ever play football people would nitpick because the style in which he played but nonetheless he's on the mount rushmore of

centers in everybody's conversation and now everybody's getting to learn about him as a human him as a family man him as a dad him as a husband he's an ohio guy who is one of the perfect representations of our sport to the world that is being welcomed into the nfl via the new heights podcast and his brother's relationship with the biggest superstar on earth and taylor swift we would all like to say from this particular program you've done damn good jason kelsey and we can't wait for the next chapter and what he does because the world is literally sitting at his fingertips whatever he wants to do is possible and i can't wait to watch aj hawk yeah selfishly i'm i was hoping he was

going to come back and play again i love watching the guy play his face really obviously you can still do it at a very very high level but do you think he's going to use this presser as like an opportunity is he going to announce something, you think, or something that they might be doing with new heights or where he's going? I don't know. We have it rolling right now. He looks very emotional. Look how big his arms are.

Yeah, he's jacked, dude. Jeez. It isn't even the collision I remember most, but the feeling before of what in the fuck is about to happen. All right. All right. All right. All right.

We are live now. Jason. Here we go. Perfect timing. That's awesome. Whoops. That is awesome. All time.

Might as well just keep playing it. Yeah, girl. Did good. Welcome back Yeah, yeah That's a five hole if I've ever seen one We're not the only ones We're not the only ones I bet NFL Network Jason, we love

Yeah, let's go back to Hey, Richard Gooden, your team over there I think Jason might let him play He's earned it, by the way He's allowed to do that Oh, man. I am brought back to this day. I am brought back to this day.

12 years old, Roxboro Middle School, first day in pads. I've been asked many times why did I choose football, what drew me to the game, and I never have an answer that gets it right. The best way I can explain it is what draws you to your favorite song, your favorite book. It's what it makes you feel. The seriousness of it, the intensity of it. Stepping on the field was the most alive and free I had ever felt. There was a visceral feeling with football unlike any other sport. The hairs on my arms would stand up.

The hairs on my arms would stand up. I could hit somebody, run around like a crazed lunatic, and then get told, good job. I love football, whether it was in my backyard with my brother, I love football, whether it was in my backyard with my brother, on the playground with my friends, or suiting up on Friday nights at Cleveland Heights High School. I loved everything about it. Although I hadn't met him yet, Jeff Stoutland often shares a quote his father would tell him. More often than not, the easy way is the wrong way. Football was hard, much harder than any sport I had ever played, physically and mentally.

In most other sports, I was bigger, faster, stronger than everyone else. On the football field, those traits were matched. On the lacrosse field, I felt like LeBron James. On the football field, I was Billy Hoyle. I loved the challenge that football was. The joy of winning, the agony of defeat, the anxiety of the unknown, and the camaraderie of my teammates. I'd like to thank my high school football coaches, Mike Jones, Damian Creel, Kahari Hicks, and Gary Roboluski.

Coach Robo, you know who you are. My hockey coaches, Kirk Gunther, Steve Bogus, and Eddie Babcox, and my lacrosse coaches, Felipe Quintana and Ben Beckman. I'd also like to thank my band teacher, Brett Baker. All of you taught me countless lessons and put up with a very young, rambunctious kid that was full of immaturity, stupidity, and cockiness. I would without question not be where I am today without your efforts with me and the countless other children you served in my brother and I's hometown, Cleveland Heights. From Cleveland Heights, I entered the University of Cincinnati as a walk-on. As a linebacker, I had no idea what to expect, but scenes from Rudy would often race in

my mind. It became apparent immediately that walk-ons would have to fight harder for their opportunities than the rest of the team. I had no stars, no investment from the team or the coaches. I'd have to earn everything, and that's good, because I had no clue what hard work was yet. Knowing that I had to earn my respect every day made me committed like never before. In my first college weightlifting session, graduate assistant Jordan Roth put me through the hardest weight lifting session I had ever been through. At the end of it, he said, if I could walk around the perimeter of the weight room holding my hands above my head, I could leave. And if I couldn't hold my hands above my head, I'd have to stay and clean the whole weight room. That entire year, I found out later that

cleaning the weight room was something I would get used to. That entire year I consider a blessing. D'Antonio ran a tough program, the weight room was even tougher, and I redefined in my mind what working hard actually was. They pushed me into areas of fatigue I didn't know I had, and for that experience I am forever grateful to all of them. After redshirting my first year, Mark D'Antonio left Cincinnati for Michigan State and we hired up-and-coming head coach from Central Michigan, Brian Kelly. This turned out to be the biggest turning point in my career, not because of Brian. He was great and we enjoyed tremendous success together, but because he brought with him strength coach Paul Longo. Two weeks into winter workouts, Paul whispered to me in the middle of warm-ups,

you'd make a great center. I shrugged it off. Offensive line, never in a million years did I think I'd play that position. Paul was different. As opposed to working guys into the ground, his motto was work smarter, not harder. His main goal was to improve us as athletes and make us stronger, faster, more explosive. He didn't care about anything else. Once during a conditioning drill, I saw a teammate struggling to keep up during a run,

so I slowed down to encourage him. And he yelled at me. He said, you run this exercise the best you can. Lead from the front. It's my job to take care of the back. Paul moved me to offensive line that spring. And it ended up being the single greatest move that ever happened to me as a football player. There are too many people to thank for my times at Cincinnati, so I'd like to limit it to coaches Paul Longo, Jeff Quinn, Brian Kelly, Mark D'Antonio,

strength coaches Tim Swanger, Dave Andrews, Coach Kerry Combs, Coach Butch Jones, as well as athletic trainer Bob Mangine and orthopedic doctor Angelo Colosimo. Of course, all of my teammates and friends, university support staff, all of you made my time there something I wouldn't trade for the world. Some of the most enjoyable years of my life. After my senior year ended, it became apparent the NFL would be an opportunity, although few teams had interest in a lineman that weighed 280 pounds.

Lucky for me, the Eagles had just hired Howard Mudd, a legendary coach who valued offensive linemen for their athleticism more than their size. Having watched and emulated Jeff Saturday in my own game, it all felt too perfect when the Eagles selected me in the sixth round. Immediately after being drafted, my agent, Jason Bernstein, said, you have no idea how perfect this is. You are going to fit in great come on you're gonna fit in great 13 seasons in Philadelphia, and I look back on a career filled with ups and downs.

I'd like to thank the four head coaches I played for, Andy Reid, Chip Kelly, Doug Peterson, and Nick Sirianni. Consider myself lucky to have played for each of you. I'd like to thank Jeffrey Lurie for his dedication to building an organization that values its employees as people and gives them the resources necessary to thrive. I've only had one boss, so I don't know much to compare to. boss so I don't know much to compare to but Jeffrey always made it a point to show his appreciation and love for his players on and more importantly off the field I'd like to thank Holly Roseman

for drafting me and for always working hard to improve our team, even from the other side of the building that one year. Whether it be coaches, players, salary cap, or the numerous other things you control, you worked tirelessly and calculatedly to improve this organization. I'd like to thank Big Dom DeSandro, truly the life force of this organization. Hell yeah. No one gives more time and energy to this team. At the drop of a hat, Dom is by your side. My family and

I give our sincerest thank yous for always treating us with dignity and assistance. There are so many teammates, coaches, support staff, trainers, equipment, cafeteria workers. You guys have no idea the amount of people in this building it takes to assist our players and me. I'd like to thank you all by name, but we'd be here far too long for anyone to continue listening. So instead, I will share memories if that's all right with you all. It is. When I look back down the road, I'm sure there are things I will forget. But these are some of the things i'm sure i will i won't forget the call i got from andy reed on draft day and my father rushing into the room with tears streaming down his face

as his son's dreams had just been realized. It had just been announced on TV I had been drafted by the Philadelphia Eagles. And I won't forget two years later that same man and my brother receiving a call, and him being drafted by the Kansas City Chiefs. This time the tears streaming down both my father and I's face as my brother had just realized his own. I won't forget the first time I saw Jason Peters do a one-on-one pass set with Trent Cole and being amazed at the speed, balance, and power I had just witnessed.

It reminded me or looked like a grizzly bear wrestling a panther. It was so impressive it made me question if I was good enough to play it in this league. I watched the next couple guys go and thought, okay, I can do this. I won't forget Thirsty Thursdays at 879, a bar owned by Brent Selleck and Todd Harrimans that stayed open a whole six months because nobody paid for a drink. Poor business practices indeed. That bar may have closed quickly, but the friendships at Forge remain open to this day.

I won't forget my second training camp, walking downstairs on my Lehigh dorm to paramedics rushing in and Coach Dave Culley's look on his face and made the expression like he had seen a ghost. A whole lot clearer. I asked if I could help.

And he said, no, just go to practice. Ah, come on. We would find out later at practice that Garrett Reed had passed away. Only a few hours after that, Andy addressed the team. It's the most intense moment I've ever shared with a group of men. And the outpouring of support and love for my friend and the Reed family at the funeral soon after was truly remarkable.

I won't forget Chip Kelly's first game as Eagles head coach against the Washington Redskins. We ran close to 50 plays in the first half. We were so tired, but it didn't matter because they couldn't stop us. The NFL had never seen something like this before. I remember all of us thinking after that game, this is going to change the NFL. I won't forget walking out onto a snowless field before warmups against the Detroit Lions and then walking out of the tunnel to a blizzard.

against the Detroit Lions. And then walking out of the tunnel to a blizzard. The Lions in white jerseys blended into the snow so well, I could not see the secondary of the defense. And the second half was all to Sean McCoy. He somehow figured out a way to cut on a dime that day. And man, it was incredible to watch. It was probably the most fun game of football I've ever been in.

It felt like we were all kids again that day. Just playing in the backyard. I won't forget finding out in the 2017 Rams game that Carson Wentz had tore his ACL. The whole team had an uneasy feeling in the locker room, all of us questioning what this would mean until Malcolm Jenkins addressed the team. He gave a very typical Malcolm speech, invoking confidence in who we were

and breaking it down with his patented, we all we got, we all we need. I won't forget Nick Foles having the game of his life on the biggest stage possible. And the biggest dick on the team going up to Doug Peterson and asking

for the Philly Special. And Doug Peterson having the biggest balls in the stadium. To say, yeah, let's do it. And Brandon Graham finding a way to stop Tom Brady once, literally once. And the way the ball hung in the air on that last Hail Mary and how it felt like an eternity. Just looking, no sound registering,

completely engulfed in the moment. When it finally landed, running onto the field, looking for a flag, anything that would mean it was over. We had done it i won't forget the parade and what it meant to the city of philadelphia the joy it brought our community and the closure it gave to so many the stories from fans that had been waiting generations for that moment fulfilled that triumph to another level. On the route, I remember meeting a woman with ashes of a dead relative whom she had promised wouldn't miss the parade if the Eagles had ever won it. A speech that had written itself and one that had symbolized what we had all lived as players, as a team, and as a city.

That wasn't my speech. It was Philadelphia's. I won't forget my mother becoming mom of the NFL, a representative for all moms out there who have sacrificed so much for their children. sacrificed so much for their children. I won't forget Nick Sirianni sending me kegs of beer to convince me to keep playing these last few years. He knows the key to my heart. I won't forget making the playoffs in his first season, the Super Bowl in his next,

and the immense heartbreak at the collapse of this last season. And although last season truly sucked, I wouldn't trade any of my time with you or those teams for the world. Everything happens for a reason, and I have truly enjoyed my time with you, Coach. Sometimes the flowers get knocked back a bit. But the roots remain. And I can't wait to watch what re-blossoms this next season. I won't forget falling short to the Chiefs. This is where it's going to go off the rails.

Thanks, Brett. I won't forget falling short to the Chiefs and the conflicted feeling of immense heartbreak I had selfishly. for myself and for my teammates. And at the same time, the amount of pride I had that my brother had climbed the mountaintop once again. We have a small family. We have a small family.

We have a small family. We have a small family. No cousins. One aunt, one uncle. It was really my brother and I our whole lives. We did almost everything together competed fought laughed

cried and learned from each other we invented games imagined ourselves as star players of that time. We'd envision making the winning plays day after day on Coley Ridge Road. We won countless Super Bowls in our minds before ever leaving the house. And when we weren't playing

we were at the other ones games butt seated in a lawn chair or a bench a capri sun in our hand that mom had packed cheering during the game and waiting outside afterward to celebrate a victory

together or offer encouragement after a defeat. There is no chance I'd be here without the bond Travis and I share. It made me stronger, tougher, smarter, and taught me the values of cooperation, loyalty, patience, and understanding. It's only too poetic I found my career being fulfilled in the city of brotherly love. I knew that relationship all too well. Some people struggle to play in this city. They can't handle the booze,

the media, or our fans. Consider it a great blessing to play in the most passionate sports town in America. The sense of urgency in this city to win has pushed our organization, has fueled it to take chances, fix problems, and work tirelessly in an effort to win. At times you hate it as an athlete, especially those new to our city, but when you've been through it enough, you learn to appreciate it. No one celebrates their own like the city of Philadelphia. Athletes become demigods in this city, even ones whose deeds span decades before. The Eagles are the number one ticket in town, the most talked about thing at nearly every moment. With that amount of attention, you better be ready to overcome the lows that will happen and be ready to persevere in the face of the criticism.

Yes, they will let you know when you are not performing well. Every time. But they will also love you if you show effort, aggression, desire, the will to fight. They will love you in this city if you love it the way you love your brother. You will be loved by going above and beyond to show that you care. Because they care. They've been caring for generations in this town about this team and they aren't about to accept a bunch of excuses and soft-ass nonsense

representing the name of the front of the jersey, something they've invested their entire lives in. If you don't like what the fans and media are saying as a player, it's very easy. Love them, treat them like your brothers, and go out and play your balls off. Wear your heart on your sleeve, and I guarantee you change those narratives. I remember seeing Zachert shy away from a block one game against Vontaze Berflikt

in the Cincinnati Bengals. Rightfully so, the fans ripped him him apart crushing him for doing it. The next week the first catch I saw Zach Ertz snag he ran after the catch like I had never seen. It took three guys to bring him down and I heard the link erupt with cheers for his effort. Today, you won't find a single Philadelphian with a bad word to say about Zach Ertz and the legacy he left behind. As players, you write the narratives. The fans and media, for the most part, it's occasionally different different only write what you give them if you go above and beyond in this city you will be rewarded beyond your wildest dreams

i saw firsthand the wrath of the eagles fans in the 2016 eagles season And rightfully so, I had an awful start to that season where I was often overpowered, had many holding penalties that cost our team, and looked like one of the worst centers in the league. I was wanted out of town by nearly everyone. And it wasn't just the fans that wanted me to go on. It was nearly everyone in this organization. That offseason, I heard trade rumors galore and speculation I'd be cut. I imagine if the Eagles had received a trade offer for a brand new set of washing machines, they may have pulled the trigger. Hell, if I was in charge, I would have pulled the trigger there's only one person in this building who still wanted me and it's he who I have to thank most for the career I've had

That's Jeff Stoutland. No one has been more influential or meaningful to my success on the field in my career than Stout. I think one of the greatest things a human being can give another is belief. This world, life, it can be hard. It can challenge yourself to points of self-doubt, and that is a dangerous place to be. Well, I am lucky. My whole life, I have been surrounded by people that have believed in me. My father, my mother, my brother, Paul Longo, Howard Mudd, and in my darkest hours of Philadelphia, Stout was the one who believed in me. He was adamant my problems could be fixed with proper technique, fundamentals, and work. And work we did.

That off-season and training camp, I focused on using my hands better, playing with leverage, proper footwork, and prepared with an edge to prove to myself that I was good enough. The following season, in 2017, I enjoyed the finest season of my 13-year career, not only as a player, but as a team. And it meant more because of the struggles and work we had been through. Without him, I doubt any of this would have been possible or that I'd still be here. Since that offseason, I have amassed six All-Pros, five Pro Bowls, and am recognized by some as one of the best centers to ever play the game.

I am very proud knowing where I once was and the legacy I have left behind, and the man we can all thank is Jeff Stoutland. Second Stout quote of the evening, no man is an island, we must draw our strengths from others. I'd like to thank my teammates, my other brothers. Oh, how I've drawn my strengths from you all. I was fortunate to play with great players.

Some of the best this league has to offer. But it was really off the field, just sitting in the cafeteria with my teammates, breaking bread and talking about life that were some of the most meaningful times I spent in my career. The NFL is truly like no other place and at the same time represents America as a whole like no other. Like no other. Fat offensive linemen from Cleveland play on the same field as skinny wide receivers from Louisiana and kickers from Chicago. Tight ends from Stanford play next to tackles from Kilgore Community College.

Defensive ends from inner city Detroit play next to defensive tackles from Yazoo City, Mississippi. Six foot nine, Jordan Malata plays the same sport as four foot eight, Darren Sproles. Plays the same sport as four foot eight Darren Sproles. The melting pot of geographic location, economic background, race, body type, personality, and athletic traits of an NFL locker room is truly remarkable. And we all rely on each other and respect one another and each of our differences because we know we're stronger together. I will always cherish this brotherhood, the relationships it fostered, and how unique an experience it has been to enjoy the day with a group of men who were driven to be the best in the world at what they do is an environment that will surely be hard to replicate. I won't forget the Eagles Christmas party in 2014 and heading out afterwards with a bunch of my teammates. There you have it. Jason Kelsey makes it official. He has retired, and he has thanked everybody

that has helped him get to this point. Coach Stout, obviously offensive line coach, run game coordinator for the Philadelphia Eagles, was a man, strength coach from college, turned him into an offensive lineman, body type-wise. Chip Kelly, revolutionizing football, you heard him say. Sirianni, getting a chance to experience how he coaches. Andy Reid, obviously a massive piece of it.

Jason Kelsey, thank you for allowing us to witness you play football, pal. How about his love for his brother too, man? Obviously, he had a lot to say, as he should, 13 years in the making, let alone a lifeline. And he said, you know, some people say, yeah, everybody says he's one of the greatest centers to ever exist. Love what he's about. Love what he's standing for.

Love the messaging there at the end that we heard. And very grateful for old Jason Kelsey, A.J. Hawk. I mean, he wrote that. I wonder how long it took him to write it because he's covering everything. I think he's doing it in a great way where he's injecting humor throughout. You can see the whole Nick Foles situation that was awesome that'll go hopefully that doesn't go overlooked when he how he how he threw that one in there but yeah I mean just so awesome the dude has so much respect from other players and coaches and everything and not only I mean because he's an

awesome dude and he's so fun when you see him out doing all this stuff that everything he does but when you watch him play like the dude is an absolute machine like he is so so good his resume is legit you know that's why anything he does in the football world not only because he's popular people know him now not that they didn't before but he's the most famous offensive lineman ever you know ever in the history of offense he's the right one though too you know he has the respect of his teammates i think he has enough of a story where literally anybody can gravitate towards it and his perspective is going to be one that's vastly different than anybody else so anything he does going forward at least in a football world is going to be a smashing success sure and i can't wait for it i honestly

care where's his heart on his sleeve he said that was a part of the entire thing as we pivot away from one of the nfl's greats let's go to one of the NHL's greats. You know, because hockey is awesome. And during our two-week break, there has been a lot of things that have been happening in the hockey world that have been fantastic. I have a new favorite player. Now, Sidney Crosby is obviously always going to

be the guy, and I don't like what's happening with the Pittsburgh Penguins. What's happening? What do you mean? Well, they stink. Do they? No, is that right? Pittsburgh Penguins stink. Sidney Crosby's having one of his best seasons he's ever had. Guy's been playing for 20 years.

He's playing his best season, and the rest of the Penguins absolutely stink. So Sidney Crosby's not in this conversation. Okay? He's not in this conversation. I have a new favorite player. His name's Matt Rempe. I don't know if you guys know who this is. New York Rangers literally just came into the league. Six-round pick,

I do believe, out of Calgary. Comes into his NHL career and he goes, alright, well, I'm going to fight people. Three out of the first four games got into a fight. Four fights in his first seven games as a professional hockey player. Stands at a staggering six-foot seven. And we're not talking about

little tiny fights either. We're talking about standing in there and throwing haymakers with the other team's haymaker thrower. He's now getting called out by all the OGs that are basically fighters from back in the day. It has become a scene. Normally in center ice, everybody goes to their feet. A 6'7 young guy who's trying to make a name for himself is throwing bombs with the other team in a stadium here as you watch this is you can guarantee almost you watch a rangers game somebody's gonna be trying to start with this guy now there are some people saying that his career is gonna not be long and before

his last fight with uh reeves he actually had to look at the bench and say am i like deuce because there's a penalty coming immediately afterwards joining us now to maybe break this all down and let us know what else we have missed, aside from the Rumpy Show, which is a bomb show that he throws every single time he seemingly puts skates on his feet. Ladies and gentlemen, P.K. Subban. Hey, Jets. P.K. Gentlemen. Thank you for joining us.

You look so cool. You look so cool. I know you're on vacation right now, so I appreciate it. I put the shades back on for you. I know you like those Henrik Vipscobs, so I made sure I threw those on for you. Oh, the Vipscobs. I mean, they are absolutely my favorite thing of all time. Tell me about this Rempe guy, PK.

Four fights, first seven games. Seems like he's a marked man now. Is he going to be around forever, or are in the Rumpi era right now, PK? Listen, listen to me. Actually, you know what? Let me take these sunglasses off. The Vince Combs come off! Listen to me. This kid, I got so much respect for him

and everybody should in the National Hockey League. And I got to give credit to a lot of the OGs, as you said, that gave this kid a fight when he came into the league. He came in hungry. They gave him the opportunity to fight and he's taken it and run with it. And this guy can play too. All of this stuff about people saying, oh, he's going to have a short career. The kid doesn't have to fight right now. If he runs around and hits the way that he's been hitting and getting in kitchens and bringing the energy to that third and fourth line that he's been

bringing for the New York Rangers, we're going to see it against Florida. That's going to be a hell of a fight. This guy can play as well, but he's tough as nails. And Ryan Reeves, that is like, that's a heavyweight bout. That's as tough as it's probably going to get for the kid right now. And he's only 21, guys. Guys, he hasn't even filled out yet. Wait until he puts on 20, 30 pounds this summer. He's going to be an absolute killer in the league.

Yeah, he's killer. 6'7", and this Reeves fight was a good one. I mean, they were exchanging blows. Reeves sat on it and waited until the end. He was like, well, kid's going to get tired too here. You know, a little bit of veteran, a little gamesmanship and the whole thing. But it's become must-watch, literally. And he has gotten hit a couple times.

You know, with the way he stands, that left eye is just sitting there waiting to get targeted some of these pictures that have come out afterwards of his black eyes and shine i mean this kid's got shiners this kid's got shiners out there make no doubt about it you can't be a fraud to play hockey because someone's gonna call you out you're gonna have to answer the bell at some point in time. And this kid has answered the bell every single time. Look at him. Look, and he's still a good-looking guy. I don't heal up.

He'll be just fine. He'll be just fine. But I love the fact that he went over to the bench, made sure with his coach everything was good. And listen, that Rangers team has gotten a lot better since he's been there. Those guys are playing loose. There's a lot more time and space. But I would not want to see that third line with Rempe on it,

with Goudreau on it, and I think it's Edmstrom on it. I mean, Edmstrom's like 6'6". It's a lot of size, heavy guys. So they're going to be tough. They're going to be a tough out in the playoffs. It should be a hell of a game, though. Florida and the Rangers, it's going to be a hell of a fight. All right.

Well, I can't wait to watch that. And shout out to the boys on the Ranger being like, we got a 6'7". We can do whatever the hell we want out here. Congrats, Bruce. Way to go, Bruce. Way to go, Paul. Rangers fans are upset, right?

Hell yeah. Yeah, they got their khakis getting ruined from all the splooging all the time. Whenever they see Rempe, go ahead and be a tough guy. Is it splooging? Because I thought Bruce was kind of saying earlier, some of the Rangers fans were like, please stop fighting. We don't want you to get hurt anymore. Oh, is that really what the Rangers... Of course that's what Rangers

are. All of those, I'm so sick of it, and that's why even when I post, I love to tee it up because all these fans, all these people that have never laced up a pair of skates, have never put the pads on, have never been in a game before, think that their opinion matters.

It doesn't. This is great for the game. All these guys can play. It doesn't matter to me. It doesn't matter to me. And I'm doing it on ABC and ESPN, and I'm promoting this thing because it is great for the game. Listen, it's fun.

Nobody's getting hurt. That's part of the game. This is a part of hockey culture. It's been that way for a long time. We don't want to see too much of the stage fighting. That's my only thing. I think it's got to be a part of the game, but both of these guys can play. So I got no issue with it. Zero issue. Me neither, by the way. Go ahead, AJ. PK, what would, what's your strategy if you're fighting a guy that's six foot seven throwing bombs like this? And second part of that, what do you think, what's the the nhl's reaction i would hope that they are absolutely pumped for this guy they just not

wanted to get out of control what like it's bringing a lot of great pub i feel like to the nhl and the rangers and it's not what hockey is only like we understand no we understand it but it's a nice little add well it's a nice little added sprinkle in there you know it is a great sprinkle and by the way that's a part of the game that's been missing in my opinion for the last little while when i came into the league 14 15 years ago listen you had all the heavies in the league other than probert and domey everybody else was there i've seen bouguard i've seen all these guys camp jets i've seen all these tough guys come through the league and it's just a dying art. So to see this come back into the game, it's still a part of the game that we want to

protect as players. We want to see it. You ask any player in the league, I think you'd be hard pressed to find any player that doesn't want to see this type of fighting going on in the game. And that's what it matters. The players got to go and do it at the end of the day. If that's the way they want to police the game, let it happen. I just think the players got to go and do it at the end of the day. If that's the way they want to police the game, let it happen. I just think the players got to play. And good on Matt Rempe. He's a young kid. He's got a lot of hockey left to play.

He's just got to continue to play hockey the way that he's been playing, and he'll be fine. But listen, to say that people don't enjoy it, they do. I fought one guy in my career who was 6'7". He still plays in the league, Kraus, and he had hit Victor Arvidsson. Victor Arvidsson might have been maybe 5'6". If Harvey's listening, he's probably like, I'm 5'8". He's probably pissed I'm knocking a couple inches off him, but I think he's like 5'6". We got a couple friends like that, too. Yeah, we know what you're saying. Yeah, we know the height.

Yeah, exactly. And Kraus buried him, and it was like my first couple of months on the team. And I looked at him and I said, you know what, this is a way to get yourself involved in a team show that you want to step your teammates. And I go over to him and literally it was like Bam from Flintstones. He was just going like this on the top of my head. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. When you fight guys that are six, seven, when you fight guys that are that big, you've got to try. They've got the reach. You've got to try to get inside. I didn't get inside, but as you can see, my face is still in proportion.

It still looks good. So I would say that that fight ended in a draw. Well, six out of seven days a week, we got a massage, probably a little facial operation going on. I mean, you look good. You look young. You do look young as a guy that's gotten into a couple of scraps. But, I mean, hockey fighting good. You look young. You do look young as a guy that's got into a couple of scraps. But, I mean, hockey fighting, your reach is everything.

Your reach is literally all you have. Oh, Jesus. This is gross. Hey, hold on, Pat. I heard you on a podcast, and I'm going to say probably what you wanted to say, and that's black doesn't crack. I mean, you know, we got the genetics. It doesn't crack.

Let's be honest. When you're mixing in the massage and all that good stuff, you know, listen, it's all premeditated. Yeah, it's a beautiful thing. Hey, good for you guys. Incredible. They said, hey, on the internet, I've seen them. I got into a certain Twitter, and I'm not going to say that either, but they said I'm aging like a banana. Like, gee.

I'm aging like milk. It's not worse than milk. They said like almond milk that ain't even coming from a titty. Oh, gee. Yeah, people are saying about how I'm aging. You know what I mean? I saw a lot of people saying like, man, Pat's six years older than me. I thought his dude was 50.

Come on. A lot of people saying that, you know, and I do appreciate that, and I'm going to pick up some things to my routine as well. Because a lot of my friends who happen to have the same type of future face as you reached out to me and said, we've got to get you some lotions.

Okay. We've got to figure some stuff out here, Pat, because what they're saying is right about you. It's a banana situation on your face right now, Pat. We got to figure that out. And that was nice. That was very kind.

Pat, keep it simple, dude. Berries and juices. Just berries and juices. Keep it simple. I'm dumping that on my face? Yeah, 100%. You've seen Coming to America. Remember, he said berries and juices.

You put it in the hair, on the face, on the beard. It works. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There you go. Hey, it feels like, boys, you all look very young. You put it in the hair, on the face, on the beard, it works. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. There you go. Hey, it feels like, boys, you all look very young. I want to let you know.

Sure. From what I've learned and gathered, I think we all understand. We got to maybe start berries and juices. Yeah, a couple berries and juices. Berries and juices is the entire thing. As we wrap up, as PK is going into a section that is low in service, he's driving, joining us from his vacation. We appreciate him.

Conversation will continue with him as we flow into ESPN Plus and YouTube. Obviously, the second hour, most of it was filled by Jason Kelsey's retirement speech. It ended with him thanking his brother, hugging him, and then saying, that's all I got, and then walking off. We appreciate you, Jason.

We appreciate Jason Kelsey. The game's going to miss him, but the world is excited to see what he does next, AJ. He's going to be awesome. I mean, what will he do next? Just continue the new heights, or is he going to try something else maybe as well? I mean, everything. He can literally do whatever he wants. Yeah, anything. And we saw his ass

intoxicated, we assume. Right, yeah. Levitate back up into that sweet. Oh, yeah. You remember that? In boots. Yep. Timbs. He had Timbs on and then he jumps out of it and lands on ice and slides and balances himself. I mean, yep. See you tomorrow. Came from the weight room.

See you tomorrow. That's a great way to come back. Just missed it. You hit one. We had it, too. It came out of nowhere. We had the music, too. Nick, you tried your best.

We missed it, AJ. My bad. I didn't hear it. How about Jason Kelsey having a fuck in his press conference? I like that. That was early. Right away. As soon as we get over there.

Yep. All right, let's go ahead and see what Jason Kelsey's up to. Was he talking about Nick? Oh, never fucking. All right. I love this. This is why this is good representation. Is he talking about Nick Foles' penis?

Is that what he said? Well, I think he was talking about just being like the bravado. Yeah. Oh, because I thought they called him Big Poles Foles. Figuratively. Sorry, what was that, AJ? It wasn't Big Poles Foles. Was it being literal?

Oh, it was Big Richard. Yeah, Big Richard. Big Richard. Big Dick Nick. Yeah, that's what they called him. Yeah. So it's true. Jason confirmed it.

Yeah, he said biggest hog on the team. No, that's not what he said. That's what he said. That's exactly what he said. I mean, team. No, that's not what he said. That's what he said. There's a chance that that is what he said. He would know. And then he said Peterson's walking around. But mostly I think he said just like the gusto. Yeah, sure.

That type of thing. Bravado. Yeah, you know what I mean? That's what I think. Pizazz. Yeah, boom. The pizazz. This guy, the biggest dick. This guy calls his own. Calls his own number. He pizzazz. Boom. So it's, look at this guy. Look at his dick. This guy calls his own. Calls his own number. He's a big dick.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Well, wouldn't you say big balls? I know he said balls for Pete. Doug Peterson. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Coconuts. Yeah. If I had a chance to potentially see Doug Peterson's combine this weekend, he's handsome.

He's cool. Is he a big son of a bitch? Oh, he's sitting. I think he's like 6'4". Former quarterback. Big head. Big, powerful head. Yeah, he a big son of a bitch? Oh, he's sitting. I think he's like 6'4". Former quarterback. Big head. Big, powerful head. Yeah, he's a big dude.

Yeah, he's got, and it is. The flow. Like, his aura is so cool. You know, like, walking towards him, because I wanted to go thank him for joining the program. You know, I did a lot of, hey, thanks for joining us on the show, because I don't get to see a lot of these people. The only way I know them is literally on the show. Do I talk to them beforehand? Not really. Unless it's like,

hey, we're, like, there's not real, so every conversation is pretty much pretty public. Yeah, live action. So I just, I had the opportunity to just give, like, a thanks to a bunch of people, you know, and that was a cool thing. You get close to Doug Peterson, you're like, he's a cool motherfucker. Yeah. You know, like, just the whole vibe of him.

What success story, and I heard it there in the Jason Kelsey speech, like, they won a Super Bowl there, Doug Peterson. Yeah. Crazy how fast that changed, right? Crazy how fast they almost not forget about it, but just move on and kick him to the curb. Whoa. I'm not saying.

You don't know what it was. Go ahead, AJ. I don't know what happened. I don't remember exactly how it ended with him. Me neither. Did we ever learn? Because it was just like, yeah happened mutually agreed yeah but it was after it was mutually agreed after announcing that he was coming back remember there was like hey doug will that was a weird scene yeah

and then there's some conversation and then it was like all right never mind he's gone yeah so like i don't know i didn't know doug peterson then and we don't know exactly how that whole thing ended but we do know he took one year off, did like, he went to, we saw him at a couple of practices and training camps and things like that. And then he goes down to Jacksonville and it's like, all right, here we go.

He's got an opportunity down there with, I think the way, especially with what it sounded like the Kahn family wanted to do with Urban Meyer. Yeah. And then that just felt like Urban Meyer was like, I want this building. I want this building. They're like, all like all right hey like kind of we need you to

build this thing up it goes oh what bad right yeah great college coach obviously urban meyer is a great college coach yeah won a lot of games yes not even there's not you can't dispute that ever in conversation nope but in nfl jackson jaguars more specifically didn't work out but that was supposed to be a big time investment you You remember that, AJ? That was like, hey, this is your team almost, kind of. Didn't they announce like some giant performance center they were building that was hundreds of millions of

dollars as he took the gig, I feel like. And he was walking, remember, he was like site surveying. Yeah, site team, yes. He was a part of the consulting crew for the Kahn family beforehand. So it was like, it was supposed to be like a seemingly like a 30-year event like a 20-year urbanville here we go this is kind of your team you're you make decisions who's coming how they're coming obviously got to work alongside

balky here and then we'll keep going forward but it's like i think kind of similar with doug peterson like hey this is your team let's go ahead and figure this whole thing out and you know you got trevor lawrence it ended you know know, not how anybody would have thought. Not good at all. And then they're going to lose Calvin Ridley, seems like. Unless they want to pay. Hopefully. They reset the market the first time at the wide receiver position.

With Christian Kirk or whatever. So who knows what they're going to do there. But, like, you meet Doug Peterson. It's like, this is a cool motherfucker. Yeah. I was like, you're an incredibly cool dude. He was very kind, very nice to us. He knew who Ty was

like that. It was a pretty cool situation. They were very similar to the Eagles this year. They were first in the AFC, and then they just fell apart over the last part. It was very similar to the Eagles. Trevor got hurt, right? He got hurt a few times.

Two different injuries. But with Ridley, I think if they re-sign him, they have to give the Falcons a second-round pick as well or something like that. That's part of the situation. So I think a lot of people think he's gone. A lot of people think that. Not everybody's got a New England. Yeah, well, not everybody has $100 million in cash.

Yeah, but Indianapolis Colts are going to be snooping around in every single market. Well, the AFC South's not a joke anymore either. What's that? AFC South's not a joke anymore. No, this is the show. Yeah. I don't know about that, but it's not the laughing stock. It's much improved.

Yeah, it's much improved. Yeah, most improved division by far. Hang the banner. There we go. Did you hear? Hang it. We don't have enough room. We got too many banners.

Yeah, too many banners Yeah too many AFC finals ones That's one yeah We saw the Harbaugh ring of honor He was sitting right underneath it Him and his kid That was cool

Harbaugh used it as like A spectator event I was gonna say He did not move all week He was in that spot Did you see him? Did you guys get to see him or no? No

No Went into the suite He was down there with his son Literally Hooked head in charger suite And was like Do I know anybody in here Is coach here? No No no He was down there with his son. Literally, folks headed in Charger's suite and was like, do I know anybody in here? Is Coach here?

No, he's down there. Alright, well good luck this season. Happy for you guys. Kept it moving, but that was the combine in a nutshell there. Poker headed in his suite. Who is this? Because not everybody had the suite. Some people taped the

logo on a thing, so that was easy. It was like, okay, that's this team's suite. Some people taped the logo on a thing, so that was easy. It was like, okay, that's this team's suite. Some people did not do that. And a lot of people were standing sideways, so you'd have to guess from the color on their sleeve what team it potentially was. So that was the whole scene. I would love to watch you sort that out.

We did a couple of like, I don't know who. Yeah, I think it was you thought it was the Texans, and it was like the Bucs or something. Is this the Texans? No, the Bucs. Yeah, fuck those guys. It was a wild scene, dude. It was nice to meet a lot of people, though.

Yeah, did you get in the Pats one? So I did see a couple Pats people. I don't know anybody over there. Yeah, it's all brand new. I had people from different teams text me asking if I was there with you. And I said, no, you should stop by. So after they showed us on the thingy a bunch of text messages to come stop by, but some coaches weren't there because they were doing interviews too, meetings.

They're like, hey, are you going to be there at like 5 o'clock or whatever? And I'm like, I don't think so. We did stay longer, though. We were there for a while. Was Artie in the suite or was he out? Artie was in the suite. Artie was in the suite or was he out? Artie was in the suite. It was great seeing Artie. Met Dan Rooney!

Steeler's hoodie on. He knows the program. Says he watches every day. Yeah, which might have been a sell. I don't like this to me, but it was a good hand shake. I thanked his family, him and his family, for everything they've brought to my family's life growing up in Pittsburgh.

Then I think I left this week saying, Hey, Rudy, why don't you get another one for the fucking Ingers, pal? And then saluted. Got a good pop out of the room. What did he say? Nah, we're good. No, he gave it. All right.

It was a good exit from that particular split. It was a good exit from that. They enjoy this. Sometimes. Sometimes. We hung out from that. They enjoy this. Sometimes. We hung out with Brandon Bean for a while. He's the man. How was it? He just is.

Listening, like just his guy right here, too. He's told me his name. Very good with names. From behind, he looks like Patton Oswalt. Nope. It was not Patton Oswalt. It was not Patton Oswalt. I didn't even think of that while we were there.

I should note, his son that while we were there. I should note, his son's a long snapper. He's obviously sitting next to Brady. I'd assume he's pretty important. Fairly important. Everybody was overly kind to us. Literally in there. But just like watching them take in the different drills

was cool. It was like, okay, this is what the combine's actually for because these are the decision, you know? Like this is the decision maker right here pretty much. You know, obviously you've got a scouting department and everybody feeds ideas and everything, but there's only a certain amount of people pulling the trigger on actual draft day on who's coming.

So like watching him watch was cool. Like it was, he was very nice for letting us do that. We just kind of walked in. We did. So, I don't know if he felt like he couldn't kick us out. So, if that's the case, thanks all about it. Right. It was really cool, though, like, to get – to watch his brain work in real time

with things that are happening and then getting clarity on something and then pulling up, like, a play from, like, college. Like, watching it, like watching it like it was did they ever tell you like hey man trying to try to watch these guys run here yeah mind you give me some time yeah so shut up i took the hint a couple times yeah i'm ruined this has been it's been a pretty heavy talking situation here for about nine ten minutes here 13 people have just gone through whatever this drill is. Say his name again, ZD Baby?

Brian Ganey, assistant GM. Nice. Hey, Brian Ganey, I'm going to let you know that's on me. That is 100% on me. Got it right. Hey, thanks for your kindness too, pal. The handshake. And on the other side, who was that?

Don't remember either, but he was a good guy as well. We met so many football people. Yeah. We met scouts, you know, that are still hitting the road every single for different teams as they're walking through the hallways to their particular team, and they potentially watch us on their phone while they're on the road. You know, it's like it's pretty cool to hear who's listening where, and we got to remember that.

Yeah. Okay. We got to remember these things, AJ. We got to remember these things. Yeah. Sometimes we,

sometimes it's easy to forget that people are listening. It's wild to think about. Yeah. It's wild. Where's the adult? Where's the adults?

Yeah. Where, why are you? Oh man, we watch every single day don't what are we doing we don't need you to we don't need you watching my shit no no no yeah we don't take it serious okay thank you sounds good that's really good news yeah we're just passing time on the road a lot but it was cool to like see because for some people that is the super bowl yeah you know like for some people in that building, they've traveled the roads, scouted these guys, recommended them to, you know, GM or assistant GM. And it's like how they're

cutting their teeth in the business. Like if you find somebody somewhere and they end up being very good, it's like you now have resume builder. Here we go. Like you're known as a guy that can kind of pick a needle out of the haystack type of thing and those scouts are probably nervous as well because they've turned in all the reports they know the guys that they've reported on dudes they've talked up maybe oh you're gonna this guy might not run a great 40 but you're gonna love him in the meeting wait till he's gonna blow you away on the whiteboard and the guy comes in he's dumb as a rock and the scout's just like oh hey yeah you we're never listening to anything you say, ever.

That is kind of how you could feel. I don't know if that's actuality because it's hard to know who's going to be great and who's not because there's so much that goes into it. But you could see in some of the suites that we were in, and we got to be in a lot of them, like, oh, that guy's definitely pulling for that guy. You know what I mean?

That particular scout right there is pulling. Somebody runs a fast 40 from one of these schools that we've never heard of, and you, like, see actual, like, okay. Do it. Yeah, like, let's go. You know, it's cool to see, like, because they're super invested, those people. Super invested.

I'd say. Super invested in a combine. And then you think about, like, fans and us. It's just, like, we're invested, but it's like, oh, Xavier Worthy ran a 4-2-1. Those guys are like my entire family's life. Depends on this team running. It's crazy. It was a crazy thing to kind of witness.

Well, and then those up-and-comers, too. I mean, you don't really put it together until after the fact, but it's like we probably bumped into, who knows, like four or five guys that will eventually be GMs. You know, like the guy from the Texans, we met their their their like head pro scout. And he's probably like my age. But look what the Texans did in the draft last year. And like, you know, it's like that guy obviously is in a position, you know, you never know. But I would assume like around league circles, like he's probably a fast riser.

It's like, oh, this guy knows what he's doing, and he was obviously locked in there, but was very gracious with his time. Yeah, and has been with Casario for a long time, but it's just stuff like that where it's like, oh, shit, in 10 years we could look back and be like, oh, yeah, we talked to that guy, and he might be one of the hottest GM names there is. It's great. Everybody was so nice and kind to us,

and thank you to Rich Eisen and the NFL Network. This is the best way to do it. That's the best way to do a combine right there. Hey, how are we doing a combine next year? I'll ask Rich Eisen. Is there any way you guys need anything so I can potentially get in there? Because it's like Area 51. They lock that place down.

There was nobody. We were literally the only two people Outside of security that were walking in the hallway They were like fans They shut down It is not easy to get in there As we were walking around I'm like We should not

This is the way to do the combine This is the greatest thing of all time So thank you to Rich Eisen Pam Litton Can't spell Litton without Litt in there. That's right. At the beginning, she kind of coordinated it all, kind of came together late, obviously.

And, yeah, I'm honored and thankful for Rich Eisen for doing that. Let's get to a break. Okay, on the other side, we got Mad Mel. Let's go. Kuyper, here we go. Yeah. About the combine experience. We just chatted about it a little bit.

Let's hear what Mad Mel had to say about going to the combine. You know, as he has done every single year that he has existed. All right. Yeah, 30 years plus probably. 40. Long time. It's going to be worth a watch. Sports.

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Con man, great day today. Yeah, fantastic day. It is really great to be back genuinely i had a big ass grin on my face driving in today with talk and it is nice to see you guys again it's always weird because we spend so much time together so when we are off for you know two weeks such a long time not seeing each other it's it's like a big reunion on days like today yeah and you do you know i agree i share the same sentiment it is nice to get back and share some stories how about you getting back in the back in the chair with the back porch barber hey that was nice that might be the biggest news of of the layoff legit yeah

because this morning jc made his way to the thunderdome which he does every single week and we appreciate the hell out of it's hard to just get a barber appointment in Indiana with good barbers throughout what our schedule is in this entire thing. So JC is literally the Thunderdome's barber. He comes once a week and cuts everybody's hair. One day, he just took a little bit too much out of the mullet that Connor did not appreciate.

I have a statement. Connor protested. He did. Connor would go out and find another barber to cut his hair for the last few months. Yeah, about three months. But over break, you went to Colorado, you went up to Massachusetts, you came back, and you said, you know what?

JC did a lot of good for my hair before he did that one mistake. He cuts everybody else's hair, and he does a great job. Well, I might have slept through a hair appointment I had on Saturday. Oh, no! Come on. I really just couldn't show my face back there again after sleeping through it. So we're back. Hey, we're back.

No, listen. Come on. It's good news. You could have just baby-faced there. You could have. Couldn't you not have? I don't know. I'm an honest guy.

Let bygones be bygones. We're back. Hey, JC will find his way back in your home. He has. I mean, you took a photo of us earlier. I was grinning like the butcher's dog, as Gumpy would say. You actually were. Yeah, I do recall that because your hair looks phenomenal. The mullet is

coming together nicely. Many people have referenced it not only here, but whenever I've you know, in my travels. Nice. Some people say, you know, the car's got a good helmet. A couple people said while I was hiking on a deserted island. So, I mean, the mullet's making some conversation waves. Yeah, it's going to stay for a long time.

When it initially happened, I FaceTimed you and I was like, we might have something here. Now that we're a year plus into it, I don't see the end of the tunnel. How about him adding a mustache though? It's just perfect. I don't know if you shaved it recently. I did.

I can tell. Once it gets a lot more full, I'm going to appreciate it. Just as we're kind of talking about this, it's kind of all hitting me. That mustache, that hairstyle, that tattoo, that arm. Yeah. I mean, he is just like, he's a movie character. Yeah. Well, I wouldn't go that far.

There's the tattoo. Most movie characters have nice triceps, as you pricks pointed out for me. No, no, we didn't say anything. You said there was a lot of landscape. No, I heard what you said. I heard what you said. Now, did I do 10 reps of trice right before this hour? Perhaps.

You just had to wake them up a little bit. That's because you guys are making me better. I mean, that's what the tattoo is really all about, too. It is. It looks upside down. That should be your bicep on top. I hear what you're saying, Nick. Hey, Nick.

Don't throw stones. I'd like to see your arm extended out without it flexing. Nick's got a lot going on in his life right now. That's fine. That was tough. It was a bad decision on my part. Would I change it? No. I wouldn't because that's who I am.

That's what life's about. You guys are motivating me to be better. That's what I appreciate about this. Every single decision that you've made has led you to right here. Bingo. So good, bad, and different. Let's go. We're on to Cincinnati. Bingo. Well said. Boom. Good, bad, or indifferent.

We're on to Cincinnati. Yachty. And anytime you need to be remembered or reminded, you just go ahead and flex for yourself one time maybe. Nope, nope. Only if I need to. So you're just going to leave it sag the whole time? Yeah. Going to look out there?

Yeah, yeah. Look, I'm me. I can only be me. I'm not going to flex for these people. It's not as if flexing does much for us. Speaking of mustaches, Artie Smith does not have one right now. He's currently the Pittsburgh Steelers offense coordinator. We have heard potentially that his contract talks have stalled,

although they are in agreement, until he gets the mustache back. And then they'll be able to complete the contract. But, Tone, I think you guys got a good one there after getting a chance to chit-chat with people running it. You know, the style that he has of offense, Pittsburgh people love that type of shit. Yeah, if you do recall when that hire happened, I went to war with my own. Okay?

I had to go to war with the Yinzers because a lot – I don't know if it was all Yinzers. It was a lot of football fans who have just kind of looked at Artie the last two years as a head coach, and they forgot kind of who he is as an OC and how successful his running game has been. And, you know, if you don't have a quarterback that throws an interception every time you go to the red zone, you're going to be a lot better on offense. So I am super excited, super eager to see what the Steelers' offense is. And, yeah, like Artie's going to run the ball, and that's he's going to establish the run, which when you don't have an elite premier quarterback is what you have to do.

Whoa, what were you saying? I don't know what you were saying. We'll see how Kenny Pickett grows into his next season, which is a big one for him. It's a big one. A lot of people have said, obviously, he knows it. But I think Artie Smith will do well. You know, he was able to really do great things down in Tennessee whenever he was the OC. And I think the city of Pittsburgh will love the style in which he plays because there's

explosives as well. Speaking of explosive, you added some ink as well that has somehow slipped through the cracks here for the first two hours of 15 minutes. Y'all saw your forearm there. It looks sweet. Yeah, I had it. Whoa! Whoa!

Whoa! It's shining! Yesterday, that is the Greek goddess of family. Because that's what it's about. Yeah, that's what it's about. And then there's some flowers on the back end, which are my daughter's and wife's birth flowers. What's the goddess's name?

Hestia. He thought I wasn't going to know it. I know him. The way you said it was, come on. Describing the goddess without utilizing the name? I agree. There was a question, but he just got it yesterday.

He knows it right now. It's fresh in his mind. But not fresh in your mind has been the thought Without utilizing the name? Yeah, I agree. There was a question, but he just got it yesterday. True. Yeah. Yeah, he knows it right now. It's fresh in his mind. But not fresh in your mind has been the thought you're going to get a sleeve. Remember, this has been a long time coming. He watched the World Cup, and he saw every single soccer player with sleeves. He said, that's so cool.

And then he went to work on one of them. Takes a long time. Takes a long time. I sat for seven hours yesterday for this one. How do you do it? I was there for nine, sat for seven. It looks sweet. And then I got to go back in a month to get the rest of, we will finish the sleeve, which will probably be another seven hours.

No. I love the patience you all have. How long was yours? I mean, this took an hour. Let's do that thing again. And I was losing my mind. Let's see. Come on. You know, we'll check in on it a month from now. We'll check in on mind. Let's see. Come on.

You know, we'll check in on it a month from now. We'll check in on it a month from now. No, no, no, no, no. Don't feel. Do you want to see it again? Hold on. Let me turn it down a little. I can't see it.

I don't know what the bottom of it says. It's the first time seeing it. Okay. All right. You're going to get to work. You're going to get to work. One month from now. And that's one of the reps right there I'm doing, you know.

One month from now. Maybe two or three. the reps right there I'm doing, you know. One month from now. Maybe two or three. We'll do a check-in with the tattoo. Yeah, maybe we don't check in. All right, speaking of checking in, ladies and gentlemen, we had a man who I was lucky enough to be alongside who had boots on the ground at the combine. Ladies and gentlemen, great friend of the program,

Mad Mel Kiper. Yeah! program, Mad Mel Kuyper. Thank you, Pat. Thank you, boys. It's an honor. It's great to be back. NFL combine draft season, best time of the year. We all know it. Yeah, we absolutely do, Mad Mel. Excited to see you around again. You look fantastic. I got to be with you at the combine. What was the combine experience like for you, and what did you learn? Did you learn anything over there, Mad Mel? Well, everyone knows the Combine's kind of a social hour for everybody every single year. But you hear from all these insiders, all these different people,

hey, I'm hearing this from this guy. I'm hearing this about this player. That's all horseshit, okay? When you go to the Combine, or at least when I go to the Combine, what you do is you tell people what they need to do, okay? It's as simple as that. Listen, I have the keys to success. I know exactly what every single team in the NFL needs to do to win a Super Bowl next year, okay? Now, granted, there are about, you know, 17 to 18 teams, and it doesn't matter what the fuck they do in the draft. They're not going to have a, you know, a chance in hell to win. But that doesn't mean I don't know

what they need to do to kind of get over the hump, so to speak, and not be a horseshit franchise. For example, talk to a couple people. Brandon Beat, GM of the Buffalo Bills, a good friend of mine, close personal friend of mine, at least I consider him a close personal friend. Pretty simple. Got in there. I mean, we were kind of trading notes a little bit, and I just told him straight up, hey, listen, Brandon, all right, you need an explosive talent on the offensive end, whether that be, you know, tight end, maybe another running back, maybe a guy on the slot, or maybe, you know, a guy on the outside, because it's pretty simple, okay?

We saw what happened last year in the playoffs. You know, the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes, you know, the big bad wolf. Obviously, you know, Noah, listen, I'm not going to get into that, okay? The big bad wolf, he's been put down. Chiefs-aholic? Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, I'm talking about Chiefs-aholic. He was not at the playoff game in Buffalo.

No, he wasn't. He wasn't because they put him down like a dog, like he deserved to be put down. But again, that's neither here nor there. But I told Brandon Bean, pretty simple. Hey, listen, you get an explosive talent unless you want Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, Andy Reid, all the boys to come into Buffalo in the playoffs and kind of treat it like a fucking middle school snow day. Okay, they're doing snow angels on the field after the game.

They're playing around, throwing snowballs, having fun, making a mockery of the Buffalo Bills. Buffalo Bills have all the requisite talent they need to make a deep run in the playoffs, to win the division damn near every single year. Great football team, but you got to get over that big bad wolf. You got to get an explosive piece. He knows that. Whether or not he wants to listen, I'm not going to give you the full book on who I told him to take, who I like, which guys I think can kind of unlock that extra potential of Josh Allen that we've seen all these years. But I let him know.

And whether or not he wants to take that advice, that's completely up to him. I did see you getting escorted out of the Buffalo Bill suite. That wasn't because you were just telling him what he needs to do? No, absolutely not. You know, it's tough to find a bite around there. So I grabbed a burger or two, maybe a couple bags of chips. Apparently I was not allowed to do that.

No one told me, hey, don't eat all their fucking food. Got a great spread. Didn't have any pumpkin pie. If they had pumpkin pie, listen, that's Mel's. Everyone knows that's Mel's. Okay, so after you get escorted out of the Buffalo Bill Suite, and it sounds like Brandon Bean was very That's Mel's, okay? Everyone knows that's Mel's. Okay, so after you get escorted out of the Buffalo Bills suite,

and it sounds like Brandon Bean was very welcoming to all of your ideas and opinions on how to run an NFL team, even though you've never done that. No, but he should be. Yeah, agreed, agreed. You found your way into the Colts suite, didn't you? I think you went down and saw yourself at the Colts suite. Is that right? Yeah, I did.

Everyone knows that Chris Ballard and IGM, the Indianapolis Colts, have a bit of a spotted past. He's kind of shit on me a couple times in our past draft coverage, draft spectaculars. And that's fine. You know, we can be at odds. We didn't really talk too much personnel. Kind of the first thing that jumped off the page when I sat down with him was, holy shit, this son of a bitch is jacked.

Okay? So I don't know if this guy needs to be making personnel decisions. Maybe he needs to institute himself as the strength and conditioning coach. I considered that. You know what I mean? He's absolutely massive. His lettuce is beautiful. Absolutely beautiful.

Very similar to Boston Conner back in your studio. He's got a very nice kind of feathery mullet coming out of the back of his hat. But I basically just told him, hey, listen, if you get your offensive and defensive line to kind of get on the same strength conditioning plan that you're on because you are a big, mean son of a bitch right now, then maybe we won't have to worry about Anthony Richardson getting hurt in the third game of the NFL season next year. Hey, listen, listen, listen, listen. That's all I said.

I wasn't saying, hey, get this guy, get this guy, get this guy. I think Anthony Richardson has all the tools necessary to be an elite NFL quarterback, but I think if they want to do that, Chris Ballard needs to get down to the weight room and start clagging and banging with the boys because he is fucking huge. Okay. I appreciate hearing that as an Indianapolis Colts fan. I like to know that, you know, we got some dogs all over the place. Colts do need to protect Anthony Richardson that, you know, we got some dogs all over the place.

Colts do need to protect Anthony Richardson. Anthony Richardson needs to protect Anthony Richardson. I think everybody has high hopes. Did I see, you know, because I think I was there with you, actually. We ran into a friend of the program, Artie Smith. How about that? You want to see for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Matt Mel. You and him go way back, right? Yeah, we do.

We had already been friends for a very long time. He's one of my confidants in the NFL. I can go to him and he'd say, hey, are my eyes deceiving me on this guy? Or no, okay, I'm right. Yeah, I always am. He usually kind of just lets me know if I'm on the right course. And again, very

rarely do I not have the correct take on a prospect of the NFL draft. Very simple with Artie this year, though. Kind of just so I, you know, damn near gave me a heart attack, knocked me off my feet. He doesn't have his mustache right now. Sorry, what? What?

Well, yeah, you know what? I did the exact same thing, kind of double-take, that I just said, listen, Artie, got to grow the fucking mustache back, okay? If you want anyone in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to pennsylvania to respect you you gotta grow the mustache back okay everyone's saying hey you know hardy and kenny pickett had a great meeting down in florida that's fine and dandy that's great you don't grow the mustache back it doesn't fucking matter what you do okay it doesn't matter how kenny plays we all know that mustache has you know uh third world or fourth world powers okay that thing could get Kenny Pickett to be an NFL,

an all-pro, pro-bowl type player. If he has a clean upper lip next year, look for the Pittsburgh Steelers to do the exact same fucking thing they've done the last six or seven years, kind of limp into the playoffs nine and eight and get embarrassed in the first round. Artie, do the right thing, okay? Do the right thing. You've had time to kind of reflect and be you know, be on the other side of the world, be in different places, kind of enjoy your time now that you're not an NFL head coach anymore.

But Pittsburgh needs you, okay? And they need that mustache. And I think he knows that, Pat. Yeah, I think there was somebody from Pittsburgh that told him that immediately upon you telling him that as well, Madmo. Is there a city better suited for an offense coordinator with an incredible mustache? There's not. Better than Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? There's not. I don't think either. I think he understands that.

Sounds like he understands that from me listening to you talk at him, by the way. Hey, Busted Connor has a question for you, Matt. Yeah, Matt Moe, first of all, thank you for the kind words on the hair. Your flow also looks fantastic, but you know, the combine is really the NFL spring break. Everyone knows that.

Everyone's mingling after the events of the day are done. They're going out. They're having a good time. Have you experienced the nightlife? Have you been able to try all the things that Indianapolis has to offer, or have you heard anything about what everyone has been doing around the

city this week? No, yeah, I've absolutely experienced it. I think everyone just assumes, oh, you know, Mad Mel Kiper, this guy's the hardest working son of a bitch in the NFL, and I am. There's no two ways about that, but that doesn't mean you don't need to blow off a little steam. So everyone always talks about, oh, you know,

Peyton Manning's kind of got his own private room at St. Elmo's, one of the most historic steakhouses in the United States. I have my own goddamn floor at that place okay so i go in you know kind of just they they treat me like a goddamn chic you know kind of put me on a pillow lift me up so i don't have to you know walk back to my room do that kind of stuff i will say indianapolis great city okay great hosting city don't don't need to really walk outside uh honestly uh there weren't too many homeless people down there i don't know if they you know kind of did the same thing that they did a couple years of the Super Bowl in L.A., get the street sweeper out and kind of shovel all the poop and homeless people just out of there.

So all these different GMs and town evaluators don't have to deal with it. Great restaurants. I am a little disappointed in the lack of titty bars around the circle downtown. Everyone knows. It's the middle of downtown. That's fair., you know. It's the middle of downtown. That's fair. Well, you know, yeah, it's the middle of downtown, but who doesn't love a good titty bar, you know, right next to a steakhouse?

I know I do. So, you know, outside of that, it's great being able to kind of rub elbows, rub shoulders with all the different, you know, personnel, team personnel. But at the same time, you know, we're not here to play grab ass, okay? I know certain guys love playing grab ass down there. Hey, let's go get dinner with this guy and this guy, and we can joke and we can laugh and take pictures. This is a fucking work trip for me, okay? All right, so I'm not there to have fun and play games, okay? So yeah, you can glean some information from the nightlife. We're here to put food on the table for our family, okay? So that's the way I treat the combine.

Now, I heard from one of the scouts as we were walking by them in the halls, and I happened to be walking alongside of you or whatever, man, Mel. Did you take a meeting in the bathroom of the Oakmont? Is that what happened? Did I hear about that? Yeah, that's correct. This week, the Oakmont kind of turned into my place of business. I walk in there, and not only is the atmosphere lovely, the food's delicious.

I actually heard, listen, I'm not a big espresso martini guy. I know you've got a couple in the office. I heard that they actually use real Nicaraguan coffee beans in the espresso martini. True story. Oh, yeah, just unbelievable play. You don't see a lot of places doing that. So after this weekend, yeah, I guess you could basically say I'm the fucking co-owner of the Oakmont. That place is mine. Might as well put, you know, Mad Mel's, the Oakmont, right up on the marquee because that's my joint now.

All right, well, hopefully we'll stop getting cars towed from that parking lot right out front if you can maybe do that. Because we do like to go to that place. Yeah, it's nice. It's a very nice place. The Oakmont is fantastic. Love it. But, boy, those tow trucks seem to be. They're pretty quick.

Tough to park down there if you're not an ant. So, you know, maybe they should figure something out. But, again, you know, that's the kind of long-term stuff. I'm more of the day-to-day weekend guy. Of course, yeah, you're a grinder. We know that, Mel. Exactly. Tone's got a question for you.

Yeah, Mr. Matt, I think everyone, not just me, holds you in the highest regard as far as your judgment of character, your judgment of brains, your judgment of an overall human. So my question there for you is who were you most impressed with when you were talking at people at the combine this weekend well that's a good question tone uh you know obviously talked to a lot of uh big time movers and shakers you know guys who are in high level positions who have kind of been uh waiting on my words of wisdom with bated breath ever since they got into the league one guy who really knocked my socks off i gotta gotta say it, Indianapolis Colts head coach Shade Steichen.

And I'll tell you what, I'll tell you why. Okay, listen, everybody, they love Gardner Minshew. He's got the mullet, he's got the mustache, the Fu Manchu, he lives in the conversion vein. He's an NFL quarterback who lives in a conversion vein. Ha ha, that's great stuff. We love it. That's awesome. You're an NFL quarterback. Buy a fucking house. But that's neither here nor there. Okay, by a fucking house, but that's neither here nor there. Let's be very, very clear about what Gardner Minshew is. Now, I understand he went to the Pro Bowl last year. He almost got the Indianapolis Colts into the playoffs. Obviously, we all remember that very difficult loss at home in the Lod House

against the Houston Texans last week of the season. Lod House, Lod House. But I had Gardner Minshew as a D-plus grade coming into the draft when I evaluated him initially. Shane Steichen got that guy to a fucking Pro Bowl. You look at the Indianapolis Colts roster on paper, that's a four-win football team. Simple as that.

But because Shane Steichen's braid is so fucking big, it's oozing out of his ears and dripping onto his Colts pullover that he's wearing on Sundays. If Anthony Richardson could stay healthy, and I believe he can because of the coaching of Shane Steichen and obviously his previous experience with a guy like Jalen Hurts who made a massive jump his second season to start a quarterback, I think the Indianapolis Colts are a dark horse team to make a deep run in the playoffs this year because Shane Steichen's brain is about as big as Albert Einstein's. I like that.

Mine maybe as well. Well, I don't know if anybody has a brain as big as yours. Speaking of being big, I like to hear that about Shane Steichen, but there's this one photo I saw. I don't know who took it. Is Kevin O'Connell 10 feet tall? And how tall are you, Matt Bell? What the hell's going on?

I'm a very respectable 5'11", 6'0", on a good day. You're right. Kevin O'Connell made me look like I was 4'8". I mean, is that son of a bitch 18 feet tall? How is that guy not playing the NFL for 18 years? Should have been a starting quarterback. I mean, goddamn, he could basically, with his wingspan, he could throw it and then just reach his

arm down to the goal line and catch it himself without moving his feet. It's unbelievable. Again, love Kevin O'Connell. Don't love that he made me look like a fucking pipsqueak in that picture, but that's what's going to happen when you're with the best of the best that the NFL has to offer at the NFL Combine. Alright, last question

here from Ty. Go ahead, Ty. Well, hello, Mad Mel. I hope you're doing well this morning. It's good to see you as always. Listen, I'm just curious. I noticed that in every single one of those pictures you took, you're wearing the same suit. So I'm just curious, were you only at the Combine one day?

Did you only work one day? I mean, you talk about how you're the hardest working guy ever. You're there one day? What's going on there i mean you talk about how you're the hardest working guy ever you're there one day like what what's going on well i don't know ty i mean are we in milan at the fucking fashion show i'm there for work ass wipe okay so yeah i mean if you want to go and play grab ass with people oh hey look at my my versace suit look at my you know listen all right very simple yes i wore the same suit and uh and shirt combo and tie combo every single day. You ever heard of Steve Jobs? Okay, turtleneck every single day. Take one decision out of your day. It's a very beautiful, nice suit, $79.99 off the rack at Macy's. Okay, very, very dependable. So yeah, I don't know. I'm not there trying to Get all the girls to look at me and say

Oh, geez, Mad Mel, this guy's fucking sexy I'm there to let these NFL GMs and pro personnel You know, staff know Hey, this is what you gotta do to win a Super Bowl I mean, the fact that you'd even ask that question Tells me how big of a dipshit you are And how much

Honestly, just how clueless you are So I won't be taking any fucking questions from you for a long time, my friend. Oh, jeez. You know, as a matter of fact, fuck this. I'm done, okay? I've given you guys enough. This is bullshit. Fuck you guys.

Whoa. What? Whoa. What did I say? Ty, way to go. Is my boss still there? You know, I don't got to do this. You know, they act like I don't got anything to do.

I mean, I got hours and hours of film I could be looking at. These fucking assholes are treating me, you know me like it's a stand-up comedy special. I don't know what the hell is going on. I'm fucking sick of it. Okay? I'm done. I'm not doing it anymore. Fuck them.

Sorry. Guy. Is he still? Look how you made Mad Mel feel. That's an honest question. I thought it was a good conversation. You did attack him a little bit. You attacked him a little bit.

I think he overreacted, but that's classic Mad Mel. I think we can, you know, besides the way that thing abruptly ended. What was that all about? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, professionalism maybe, you know, just a tad bit. But sorry, draft season's Mad Mel season. Yeah, it sure is. I think we got some stuff out of there before the terrible ending.

You're going to have to make that right with him, I think. We all probably were. And it is kind of a stand-up routine, to be honest with you. A little bit. He said that at the end. I hope he doesn't take any offense to it. He's the best in the game. He's the absolute best in the game.

But there was a lot of good stuff that we could take out of there. He agreed with the Artie Smith type thing. But how about whenever he was talking about Shane Steichen's big brain voice? Look out. Did you hear that? Yeah, I did hear that. I did. Did you hear that?

I did. Did you hear that in the back? Yep. Okay, we don't know what's real and what's? I did. Did you hear that in the back? Yep. Okay, we don't know what's real and what's not real whenever Mad Mel Kuyper is talking to us about anything. But I heard him say that Shane Steichen's brain is a big one. Also, Kevin O'Connell did look like he was 20 feet tall in that. Joining us now, a guy who finally got internet service back. Obviously, he's in over.

It could be us, too. We have no idea. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawker. A.J., Mad Mel is firing early in draft season bub i did not uh see it ending that way unfortunately ty's question really seemed to set him off mel was up mel's about ball that's about it right he didn't care about fashion he didn't care about anything else i think he was wearing the same suit today ty yeah you didn't even mention that it might be just his draft season suit that might be be his thing. Listen, I made a mistake, okay?

I'm big enough to admit that, but, you know, to make that kind of, you know, proclamation and get all pissy like that, that's, yeah, I'll make it right. I'll make it right. All right, AJ, let's talk to you about some of the stuff that, you know, we kind of acknowledged at Combine. Fastest group of humans of all time. Did you see that as well? And do you ever think to yourself, because you ran what, 4-4 this guy ran?

Yeah, 4-4. 4-4 at 245, I think, is what he was at. Bad knee. 4-4 at 245, yeah, with a guy, you're talking about Caleb Williams said, I'm not doing medical. AJ was actually just lying right to people's faces about his medical, okay?

Ended up being number, right? Right? Not lying, I'm just, I'm not doing their work for them. If they want to see if I have surgeries If I have any cartilage in my knee, you can check it out yourself Okay, so we're holding it for me Why would you volunteer? Yeah, you know what, my left knee hurts a little bit

But my right ankle really hurts No, say nothing, say you feel amazing The medical thing with Caleb was a big conversation And I immediately just thought of you I was like, AJ was like, yeah, you want to figure it out, figure it out Good luck, there's doctors, it's all You know what what i mean it's out here and they do that's why they make you get 15 mris and let everybody look at you yeah they'll look into you deeply but anyways aj whenever we walk around this combine and we just start hearing everybody kind of chatter

it's like humans have evolved to a point where we're faster than we've ever been before not only the fastest 40 in the history in 421 but six players run a sub 4-4 in 40 plus inch vertical it's like humans are so explosive right now if and i'm not saying this is going to happen in our lifetimes but it certainly feels like with the chat on here if the aliens were to come down right now and it was to be some sort of decathlon to see who, you know, if sports are involved at all. It's like, feels like the human species is at its peak right now. They are moving. Not only the 4-2-1, obviously the fastest in history, the NFL combine, laser-timed, can't cheat it at all with hand time.

It is absurd how fast this 170-pound man, 165-pound man ran 40 yards. It's like humans have evolved to a point where we are so big tovondre sweat 366 aj moving like that it's bananas brother it doesn't seem real when you watch it i was just watching some of the drills too like yeah the times are off the charts i was watching the running backs go through the little running back drill or catch ball like into flat and turning up and i'm thinking these guys look first off they're so like like quorum so stout so strong his lower bike everything about him i'm thinking like how do you bring these guys down when they get a full head of steam you see their their jump cuts everything they're doing they just move like it's just not natural how well

they move i feel well and how about whenever you're talking about flipping the hips with these corners and like these wide receivers body control nowadays is just like standard operating procedure, where it used to not be like that. It used to be special. And I'm not saying guys weren't phenomenal at football back in the day, but it feels like with humans getting to the point that we are and athletes getting to the point that we're getting, with the work habits earlier in life that people are learning,

these seven-on-sevens for these wide receivers and quarterbacks and everything like in corners are like in one-on-ones that go viral and content like people want to work in high school because it's content like want to go i want to get my feet better i want to make more absurd catches i want to practice every single day because that's just making content. It's like there's almost a full different mindset on how you become great from these youngs who are like so mature. Here's Roma Dunze who wanted to get a 6.6 on a three cone drill and stuck around until there was nobody else on the field afterwards. He ended up with a 6.8. I do not know what a good score is or what isn't a good score, but it's like these dudes are better, younger, faster, quicker, more mature too

because the NIL stuff that kind of has hit them at a much younger age. It's a different – they say different generations. Like this one is a different generation it feels like, AJ. Yeah, it sure feels like they're moving. Also, like the leadership and camaraderie, you watch how they're ending drills. They're all running down together and kind of celebrating together. And a lot of those dudes are meeting each other for the first time once they show up at the combine. They don't all know each other yet, I guess.

But, man, it's like where do we – is there a ceiling? Is there a ceiling on the 40? What are we going to see? Isn't there a poker? 4-1-8? Is that what it is? I mean, yeah. Because I think there was some track person that did it.

Ran a very fast 40, a track person. And they were showing it on the internet. I should have remembered it. But, yeah, what is the fastest that a football player – now, he's obviously a little bit undersized, right? That's 170 pounds or whatever. It's like if he gets in the right offensive system, though, that doesn't matter. Nope.

That doesn't matter, especially if he knows how to avoid hits. You know what I mean, AJ? Which if you want any longevity, you will. And watch any of the kind of slighter frame receivers out there. They know. They have the instincts, the knack to find a way. They're not ever really taking big shots. They're not just stepping out of bounds.

They just have such a great feel for where the defenders are that know how to get down. Here's Xavier Worthy right in our grill. Jeez, what a play. Us losing our minds on the sideline with Matthew McConaughey. A moment that I'll remember in my dying days happening. It was

absurd down there at the Cotton Bowl right in front of our faces, but it's like, I'm excited to watch these guys work. I'm excited to see who makes it, who doesn't make it. I'm excited to see the surprises of this draft season with the lack of people working out. Now, last year, C.J. Stroud threw, you know? So that's a massive ordeal that he threw

and had the year that he had. If you go back, Patrick Mahomes, I believe he threw. Tom Brady, obviously, threw. Lamar Jackson threw. Andrew Luck, RG3, both did not throw. Peyton Manning did not throw. Kyler Murray did not throw. So it's like everybody always wonders if the combine is going to continue to be something with people opting out.

Kind of just like bowl season. I think people are going to watch. Did you see the crowd that was in Lucas Oil Stadium, AJ? Yeah. When did they start letting fans in? A couple years ago? A couple years back. I think it was an exclusive group.

I think the first time it was like 100 people. A couple hundred people were allowed in there. It's like a wild thing that you get to experience for once in a lifetime. Then it kind of expanded a little bit. I had heard from nobody of any decision-making importance, I don't think, said that a lot of the football guys, scouts, were a little bit like, because they were playing music as well while the drills were happening and there was fans in there.

So some of the scouts that we're talking about living and dying with guys that are the regional on-the-road scouts living in hotels, scouting somebody in hopes that that person becomes a big star so that they can maybe climb the ranks of the scouting world and potentially go be a general manager. So I think they've tried to find a happy medium. All I know is that place was fucking packed. So many people.

Half of the stadium. It was absurd. It was loud, too, at different times. Deep balls, obviously enjoyed. You talked about camaraderie. It's like, did you hear the crowd every time they ran down there? The crowd was like, hey, good workout, boys. Good workout, boys.

There was obviously some Michigan contingency there because of 18 Michigan Wolverines being there and working out. Saw some of the local heroes. Purdue had some fans, obviously, there. But a lot of people were just from Indianapolis that were like, love ball. And I'm very thankful that we got to see it and very thankful that Indianapolis still continues to host the NFL Combine because we appreciate it. The economy appreciates it.

Everything. It is a beautiful event down here. Yeah, I mean, we pulled up and obviously it's not as crazy as like a Colts game downtown, but like there are people tailgating. There are a bunch of cars around there. Traffic. Yeah, we had to make like a pass around the stadium to actually get in there. Like we had to make traffic. Yeah. We had to make like a pass around the stadium to get, to actually get in there. Like it was,

I mean, I, and obviously, you know, when you, when you open it up free to fans and they have to just go online. And I think it's kind of like a raffle type thing, but like still the amount of people that were down there.

I mean, and even like downtown, not, not right next to the stadium. Like there's like a, a palpable buzz down there. Like it's, it's really cool to see.

Yeah. I don't know how the football people feel about it yeah i love it like how would how would bill belichick have handled you think he would enjoy that if he wanted to go hey i'm gonna get a closer look and sit down in the uh in the concourse somewhere and he's surrounded by a bunch of fans so listen to this what they started this year and i don't know how i actually i don't know because i'm not down there as much but with how many fans there were, the NFL Network feed goes out on the Jumbotrons. Jerry Jones got booed in there.

Jerry's trying to do business, trying to find the next cowboy, have been doing the combine in the way that the combine has been done for the last 40 years. Just kind of real chill, nonchalant. All of a sudden, he's getting his ass booed. What the hell is this all about?

A little baby face, a little heel thing at the combine. I do wonder how Bill Belichick, because that place would have, the boos would have been so loud. And Bill Belichick, I'm not going back to that thing ever. Did any coaches not go? Did any head coaches not go this year? So we had heard through the grapevine that that's the next. They started doing that. Didn't McVay not go last year? Bill didn't. Yeah,vine that that's the next. They started doing that.

Didn't McVay not go last year? Bill didn't. Yeah, because you can get the tape. And they said certain guys were coming in on Sunday and just staying for Sunday and then leaving. But yeah, a couple of the people we talked to, it's one thing watching live, but you literally can watch the entire thing on NFL Network.

Football guys were there. All of us were watching the Jumbo Trot. Which was the, you know, because that's where the clock was, that's where everything was. You get to feel it, which is what a live event is, but watching it you kind of get a similar thing.

It was cool. I'm chit-chatting right there with Mr. Ganey, who's the assistant general manager of the Buffalo Beals. Yeah, that was an interesting moment. Somebody in there said, yo, pretty much, that we were up there. Because they don't tell you, as Coach McDaniel. Right.

He was not happy. He looks so cool. So cool, dude. Always. I thought the way he handled that was cool. Yes. I think the other football people probably were like, when they met for dinner later or a drink, they were like,

you handled that well. Nothing you can they were like, you handled that well. Nothing you can do. Yeah, you handled that well. It's uncomfortable for all of us. But it's become a fun little spectacle. Yeah. Did any of you go out to, you know, St. Elmo's or any of the hot spots and see all the, you know, what's going on?

Our places were packed. We did not. Bruce is normally the guy who goes out and has his ear to the ground. Yeah, checks the temperature. O'Connell and McCown were out on Friday night. Oh, okay. Did you talk to O'Connell? Yep.

Okay. There it is. There's the guy. Wait, what'd you say? Okay. Said he's a great ball coach. Offered him a shot. That's so...

Nice. All right, so Coach O'Connell came up to me and Mad Mel and were like, I saw one of your guys last night or whatever out and about. I'm like, really? And then he tried to describe – the way he described you was – How was it? What did he say? What did he say?

He was very complimentary, like super complimentary. Yeah. You know, like super complimentary. He did say beard, but it was – were you with somebody from Illinois? Yeah, Eastern Illinois offensive lineman. Yeah, that would be Ben, yeah. Okay. but it was the were you with uh somebody from illinois eastern illinois offensive line yeah that would be uh that would be ben yeah okay there it is hey he said great things about like very complimentary of you guys you need to know that okay i'm happy you guys had a good time but yeah that's what like that's why indianapolis is like the perfect place for this thing and i think

the nfl people would say the exact same thing i don't know if they're going to enjoy it becoming like a big people travel to the city event. Because then all these things that don't have a lot of humans in them potentially, that's why Indianapolis is like the perfect hosting city. Because people come into town for conventions or whatever, and then these restaurants and everything just kind of become like their... Like not only do you get the convention center, you also pretty much get. You get all of downtown. Entire downtown.

You know, like you kind of get the, it's like the perfect hosting city. That's why everybody loves it here. If it becomes one of those spectacle things, I do, I do worry, you know, that you could be drawing like, because they had to have had 10,000. I don't know what the number was. Oh, yeah. I bet it was 10,000. They had to be. That's a good pool. A lot. That's a ton of people. Staying in Indy, it's a beautiful thing. We're lucky to have had 10,000. I don't know what the number was. Oh, yeah. I bet it was 10,000. They had to be. That's a good pool.

A lot. That's a ton of people. Staying in Indy, it's a beautiful thing. We're lucky to have it. Hey, shout out to the Combine. Congrats to all the boys who made some money. Congrats. Including, we'd assume, Xavier right in front of our face.

He caught that deep. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about Stone Cold Killer. Okay, AJ? And I'm not talking about that Lover stalk kill thing, which I did watch. What a psycho. Yeah, how was that? What a psycho.

Good trailer. Some are good. She was talking about a story, maybe the craziest human that has ever existed. Really? I don't want to give too much. Loves AJ? I don't want to give. To be honest, saw more of AJ on the picture than in the actual documentary so he

shouldn't be worried no but uh we're talking wild wild creature wild animal we're talking wild did not know those is she free no sport is she free is she walking the streets that's no spoilers no spoilers we're okay no spoilers all right no it's no spoilers. That's news. That's news. I need to make sure people understand that they are potentially safe. But watching that, I was like, holy shit. These things exist out here. It's good to be reminded, isn't it, that there are people, crazy people out there. This one is a whole new reminder.

Okay, I'm going to watch that now. I'm intrigued. I saw the first like 20, 30 minutes, I believe. The lengths in which, I mean, it is, you should. Is it a love story? Is it a love triangle? Well, I don't even know. Kind of. How many people are involved?

They're having sex. Okay. They're having sex. Okay. Okay. And then craziest human that has ever existed. Their story gets told. Okay. Hmm. Did someone die does someone die well yeah it's in

the i mean the name of the thing you asked what's it called love killer stalker murder i think it's called somebody's murdered in this documentary love stalker killer okay i think is what all right so there is blood well you never know unless What if she got poisoned? It was wild Did anybody watch anything else that was good? I'm trying to think Dune 2 Holy shit

Unbelievable What about Dune 1? Oh yeah Dune 1's good Oh yeah I was told I would not like that show Because the guy's name's Dragon Potato It's Duncan Idaho

You wouldn't like it Dragon Potato Jeez Add me to the list It's sci-fi It's sci-fi Masters of the Air You might I don't know if you ever watched Band of Brothers or The Pacific But it's about Jeez. Add me to the list. It's sci-fi. It's sci-fi. It's sci-fi. Masters of the Air.

I don't know if you ever watched Band of Brothers or The Pacific, but it's about the Air Force during World War II. It is very good. Shogun. Very important group. Yeah, very good. Tough gig those guys have. Yes. What's it called?

Masters of the Air. It's on Apple TV+. The Elvis kid is the main guy, right? Yes. He's so handsome. He is. he's good So Glenn Powell and him are just like the super handsome? They're the next He's also the bad guy in Dune 2

In Dune 2, yeah, he's in it Okay And he is fucking strapped in it as well The Elvis guy? The Elvis guy, yeah Is he still talking like Elvis in Dune 2? No Because he was in Masters of the Air

He is not talking like Elvis in Dune 2 He actually has a great hearken and draw, if you will, in Dune 2. What? All right, so I'm going to watch that, I think it sounds like. Masters of the Air, I'm going to watch. I think I heard about one that's right up your alley. It's called Frogging. Apparently, this actually happens to people.

People live in your house, and you just don't know about it because they're— Yeah, in like the base attic or something. Yeah, and then during the night, they come out and just do stuff in your house and you just don't know about it Yeah, in like the base attic or something Yeah, and then during the night they come out And just do stuff in your house while you're sleeping Like steal your shoes And do weird things and touch you I don't know, I'm not going to watch it Is this real? Is this real life or is this a series?

No, it's a series, yeah No, but like it's sitcom? No, no, no, it's real life It's based on real events? What, ring cameras have been catching people I assume I was just told yesterday to watch it What's. No, no, no. It's real life. It's based on real events? Yeah. What, ring cameras have been catching people, I assume, in an alarming rate? I was just told yesterday to watch it. What's it called? Froggen?

Yeah, with a PH. Wow, that's fat. Farms. Avatar the Last Airbender? You would hate it, but it's so good. I can't wait to watch it. I can't wait to watch it. Anyways, you know what I'm excited to watch?

And this is for shoot, brother. I cannot wait to watch the college NCAA Women you know what I'm excited to watch? And this is for shoot, brother. I cannot wait to watch the college NCAA women's basketball March Madness. I legitimately can't because the amount of chatter that it has all garnered this year because we're watching history literally be broken numerous times by

the same person in phenomenal fashions every single time. I think that's where we all kind of got hooked by this story because Angel Reese and this LSU team were dogs. And then you got Caitlin Clark and I would, and it was like, it built up perfectly.

Almost. It was like a March madness story that if they want to, you know, and said, we got to strip this thing out. How do you want it? Here's how we want it with some shit talk in the middle of it. And we were all captivated by all of it. Like

the South Carolina team, I think a lot of us got introduced to. How the coaches, Coach Daly and everything. How the LSU coach, like the storylines in women's college basketball are phenomenal in the sport. Hundred some points is getting put up on a very regular basis. So this year

going into the season i think we all had a little vested interest didn't we had a little bit more vested interest than maybe we had in the past we apologize for that but we certainly are enjoying the story that's being wrote this year this girl from iowa who's going to be an indiana fever player and win every wmba championship from this season forward until she decides to no longer win them alongside Miss Boston here in Indianapolis, Indiana. The way she has gone about doing what she has done, which is obviously historic, is stone cold, bro.

Do you remember when she broke the women's all-time scoring record? Oh, what was it? Oh, splash from the logo. Oh, she was going to be nervous going in, obviously with history on the line. Everybody's expecting her to do this. The entire arena is there to watch her break this record. Maybe she'll overthink it just a little bit. Maybe she'll be a little gun shy. Maybe she'll break a couple because it's such a big night. First 12 points, I think, that Iowa Hawkeyes scored in that game, she scored and she splashes that thing.

Then, it's not just a women's record, AJ. No, no, no. With the way she plays and the points that she puts up, and she doesn't even shoot the ball 40, 50 times a game. She's just a playing ball. Unbelievable passer. Unbelievable passer. We're talking triple doubles happening all night.

So she's not just popping shot and every single time she gets the rock either. She's picking up a lot of other stats in the way she's contributing, but she'll score 30, 40 a game. She can get the all-time scoring record for D1 basketball as a whole from pistol Pete Maravich, who wasn't able to shoot threes. True. Before a game with no threes.

How does he do that? He was shooting 40 times a game, too. Nonetheless, there's people that are negative about it. It's historic. With all that being said, that motherfucker hasn't been topped for a long time. And now we got a stone-cold dog in Iowa that was able to do it. Listen to this and watch this. He ties it with that one.

This for college basketball history. Splash, dude. Great call by Gus Johnson. Great timing by Gus Johnson. And she splashes that. Whenever you talk about standing at the free throw line, that's literally Caitlin Clark as a five-year-old, as a six-year-old, with the ball, with the hoop,

literally an entire arena in the world going, what are you going to do? And she splashes that thing. It's like in the head, she's mentally, she's savage. Like, Kaitlyn Clark is, that's why I'm so pumped she's coming to Indianapolis. She's the real deal. She's a fun athlete to watch, man. She really is, AJ.

I'm pumped she's coming to Indianapolis because it's not that far of a drive for me to take my kids and go over there and watch. It will be – this NCAA, the tournament this year is going to be awesome because all of this stuff is such a big deal and it matters and all these things. But we all know, we remember what happens in the tournament. We remember men's or women's sports. What do you do in the tournament? Oh, this is a hot state.

Oh, no, I don't care about that. Oh, it's a hot state. Oh, no, I don't care about that. Oh, it's a hot state. It's that mindset. It's like when people get excited about winning their conference or whatever. I'm like, that's awesome. Clap it up. We should be happy. But all that matters is what we do in the tournament.

Well, and Ty, I think this is something that, you know, Kaitlin Clark has had to face a little bit. Now, granted, there's a lot of supporters of Kaitlin Clark, and you can tally us into that particular list and have been for a long time. But on your way to the top of the mountain, you know, there's going to be a lot of skeptics and things that are being said. I didn't even realize that Ohio State people were going to be some of those people because they won the Big Ten, I guess.

The Ohio State, they won the Big Ten regular season. See, now there's a Big Ten tournament, too, in basketball. So it's like, all right. Buckeyes fans were telling me, you know, who won the Big Ten, Pat? Just tell me who won the Big Ten. And I respect and appreciate that. And they said a flop actually led to those two free throws. That's what people were saying.

Not like the whole story, you know, of catching Pistol Pete, which nobody has been able to do, obviously. 56 years. All they were saying was, yeah, what about the flop, though? Who won the Big Ten? Which I respect and appreciate. But obviously Ohio State Buckeyes fans aren't the only ones that were kind of her skeptics. There's been

a lot of others. And all they're saying is, she's got to win in March. She's got to win in the tournament. Ty Schmidt, our Iowa Hawkeye representative, does this team have a chance to win in the tournament? Do you know more than I do about how the women's college basketball March Madness goes?

And what do you see from the team? I probably don't know more than you do, but I have. I don't know much is what I'm saying. But I probably have watched I've watched almost every single women's game this year. First and foremost just the fact that she actually is from Iowa and she's not she didn't go to Iowa from like Illinois

or Ohio or whatever like I do have like immense pride in the fact that an Iowan is the one that broke this record like it's really fucking cool it is like the fact that if you had told me however many years ago that like Travis Scott would be at Carver Hawkeye Arena watching Caitlin Clark break this record like that's unfathomable it's crazy like the reach that she has and what she's done for the women's game so it does kind of suck that it's getting picked at from all these different people. But it's going to happen, obviously,

especially with how much we're talking about it, and rightfully so. I think Hembo and Greeny talked about it this morning. They went through all of the records in professional sports and sports in general about how long it took for those to get broken and how like people

didn't like this is a record that people didn't think would ever get broken it's been 56 years like since he said it like it and and it probably will never be broken again i mean maybe who knows we'll see but i don't think as a whole they're as talented as they were last year but as we've seen in the tournament like if caitlinlyn Clark plays the way she did last tournament when she kind of introduced herself to everyone, like, they can win it all. She's awesome to watch. She is. And like you mentioned, like, basketball is one of those things where, like, yeah,

she might not shoot it 40 times a game. She might not be scoring 50 a game. But, like, she is accounting for points on every possession because she is an unbelievable passer. Like, she can get her teammates involved. So, so like it always kind of comes down to that obviously she's going to be keyed big time is she still going to score 25 plus points per game absolutely but it's it's gonna like they need their other girls to when she's driving to the lane and they have girls who have open looks for three like they need those girls to knock those down um if she plays the way she has been playing like there's no reason they shouldn't be in the final

four or have a chance to win it all but i haven't watched enough of these other teams to know like you know obviously there are there are studs in women's college basketball everywhere it's not just caitlin clark like that's kind of the the cool thing about women's basketball as a whole now. I think I could name more premier women's players right now in college than I could men. Oh, Phil Poskey. Phil Poskey, yeah. Is that the player that got to captain? Almost died.

Flip Cousin cut in half. I almost got people coming out saying people should get arrested. Thank God that kid's still alive. He is. He was sick. He was sick. It was sick. Nobody was talking about how sick the dunk was. No, they were just talking about it.

Because everybody's talking about it. It was a bummer for him. It is a bummer. It was such a good dunk. I was kind of bummed off for him. Down at the bottom, obviously, we've seen it a thousand times on the internet. We were not live whenever this entire conversation took place. But that man right there got assaulted.

Cut in half. Right there in the middle of that court. Now, they beat Duke. It's Wake Forest. It's in Wake Forest. Small campus. Very proud campus. Close schools.

I think, yeah, in North Carolina, obviously, Duke, for however long, been the big bad wolf. You get a massive win like that. Boys get excited. Fans get excited. Ladies get excited. Everybody sprints on there. And the court storm happens quickly.

You know, very exciting. Full Poskey situation takes place. And now full conversation is, should this be allowed anywhere? Well, nobody has deemed it completely illegal, although I think it is. Caleb Presley, who actually used to go hunt storming situations was actually arrested one time true for doing it so i think this hasn't been something that's necessarily been like promoted but it has been something that has happened in the history of sport but now security guards are better than they've ever been oh yeah they had a practice after the phil bosky situation

where he almost brought a broken ankle they've been working on it. So, three, two, one. Bizer. Whoa, get out there. Oh, yeah, we just beat Duke. Uh-uh. You didn't. Not today. Go the other way.

So, yellow shirts getting ready all around town until there's an official public ruling. Good luck. 8,000 people decided to storm the court. Good luck. Yeah, they're running right at you. You're running sideways. Look at the leverage that they don't have, by the way.

They don't have any. They're running this way while the crowd's coming this way. Now, maybe there'll be like scores tables that maybe slow down. Maybe they're a little bit of an obstacle. Elevated courts, things like that slow down a little bit so you can maybe bop them. There's some people thinking. Death them. There's some people thinking. Death penalty.

Yep, yep. There's some people saying that maybe, not that one, but definitely. 15 to 20 for sure. Put an electric fence up or something maybe. Maybe an electric fence. Maybe that is a thing. A moat. Oh, that'd be sweet.

Moat would be cool. Very tough. I've looked into it. Very tough. Very tough. Maybe not moat. These schools got it. I mean, they ran.

So much money. Yeah. Anyways, I'm happy that college basketball people have to figure that out because I think we speak for the football community in this particular aspect, not all of them. Like, field storming is going to exist forever. This is going to exist in football forever. And I know it's a different conversation because there's a lot more space,

53 and a third wide at least for the field, 120, and you can get out of there. I was down in Louisville when Louisville stormed the field whenever they beat our West Virginia team on a Thursday night football game. I almost saw a teammate get into it with a sprinter on the field, and in that moment I actually was like, oh, this is really – this could get bad, I thought to myself. Good on fan.

Yep. Adjusted course. Okay. Goes different way. Nice. You know, kind of gets out of the way. We get off field. We're all good.

I think that's normally how it's gone. So whenever Kaitlin Clark gets run into in basketball. At Ohio State. At Ohio State. Of course. Shouldn't have your phone. I mean, honestly, if you're storming the court and you're filming yourself, then you should be arrested.

You've got to have some awareness. Head on a swivel. Okay. So you're saying, and I'm not ruling on the college basketball world because that's for them to rule. Yep. Football, it's always going to happen. There's more room, and I think people understand and acknowledge, like,

yeah, need to kind of stick or get around other team, celebrate with our team, which is a big part of it. Much bigger space, too. You can, you know, basketball court's obviously much smaller. Fans also realize you don't want to run into a helmet. Yeah, pads. What do you think they're going to do over there in the basketball world? I see the security practicing.

They're going to need a little bit more of that. That's first day. That is first day. Until the security is prepared to Knock students out And put them in the hospital So like when that initial wave comes out And they kind of make their red rover chain And they start breaking college kids noses

And like putting them down Knocking them out It's never gonna happen They have to watch 300 Yeah but like Who the security people Yeah it has to be the same feeling When all the horses are coming

Shields yeah Shields would get it done If they gave them riot shields Yeah Cattle prod Who, the security people? Yeah, it has to be the same feeling when all the horses are coming. Ha-hoo! Ha-hoo! A shield would get it done if they gave them riot shields. Cattle prods. And they can give them the batons, too. Yeah, but we've seen some people that carry some things that they shouldn't carry, and it weighs them down. Remember, we've seen some people with some big flags at some of these games, and it's like the flags are beating the people that are running.

Those shields, if it was real riot shields, I think those are pretty heavy. Uncomfortable. What do you think they're going to do in basketball? You think that's what they're going to do? What do you think they're going to do? You can't stop it. I don't know how they're going to do it. You can't.

I think they'll designate an area. Yeah, to go the other way. I was thinking that too, but then you've got to be prepared in that area every single night, even though it might not happen. So I guess that's a whole thing you've got to think about. It wouldn't happen until the final four in the tournament, though, right? Because they're neutral site games. You're not going to storm. Say there's an upset.

They don't have enough people there to storm the court early on. Oh, in fact, do they? I don't think so. Never. No, it'll only be at home courts. No, it's still conference. Yeah, conference tournament isn't home either. Okay, so they've got time to think of this and figure it out almost.

You can't stop it. You can't stop them. If people want to come down, they're going to. Come on, bro. You have to sacrifice a few people early on. A few people might get their head bashed in, but then if the rest follow, you're good. Part of college. So what are you saying?

You're for it or against it? Because you're saying you're bashing heads. Oh, I think it should be allowed. Yeah, I think I fall on that side as well, but I'm not in the college basketball world. If they storm the court, they should have the away team or whoever it is that just have them go behind the scorer's table. Hey, you guys aren't shaking hands. Just get the fuck off the court.

That's the easiest way to fix it. We'll shake hands afterwards. Yeah, exactly. Or guess what? We don't have to shake hands. That's not the end of the world. Let's go shake their hands. Unless someone says that.

If you're seven foot, maybe don't get sawed in half by a four foot girl. Or you let him. You're talking about Flipkart. He didn't even get tested. After all that, nothing got tested.

They just lost a big game. The people that are going off the field or off the court, the reason why the field is being stormed is because how terrible of a feeling you are currently having. Right? It's a big game. It's a big upset. You probably derailed somebody's life.

You know, like that is what a storming moment is like. So you can see how those people are certainly in emotional roller coasters, which is why there's always been seemingly an understanding between stormer and visitor player, maybe a yell, right? Don't have to handle that. Maybe a yell, but an avoidance completely almost. So like the person that was filling their self and hit Caitlin Clark, and although that one was, you know, people judged how it was and everything like that there's no way

you're thinking blindside you're going to get hit ever in the phil paskey one it's like stormers we do gotta be smarter though yeah you know you gotta you gotta avoid you see a buddy sprint off the court or in the very beginning of that clip who wasn't the duke player he sees it coming right here he sprints off the court yeah top left yeah yeah so it's like there has to be some coos there has to be i can see how it'd be a bit scary if you're a duke player and you feel the whole place just surrounded i can see how that'd be a bit worrisome well that's what i'm saying with the college basketball like i'm not in the college basketball world i don't know how small it's about this what's about though this is what they want they want this we need that the clip of that wake

forest will use that forever yeah we need to keep this type of feeling whenever universities win yeah you know we need to keep this type of desire this type of energy this type of emotion towards something because that's what is a part of college sport the pageantry is how it's described but really it's the passion of the fans from my perception as somebody who's gotten a chance to travel around now and see some of the coolest things it's like the pageantry the tradition the chance everything that's the motherfucking generations of of families that have been doing the same exact thing and like you learn how to be a fan pretty much and this is how you live this is your life pretty much that's why college football you live. This is your life, pretty much.

That's why college football is awesome. I assume that's how college basketball fans feel about college basketball as well. So I never enjoy the thought of wrangling that. Because that is what makes college sports special, I think, personally. You're not getting that type of situation anywhere know anywhere else in the united states of america so we gotta have some truth here stormers can't be stupid right nope educate them just educate the stormers a little bit hey have your have some awareness maybe yeah you're right i don't know you can't really funnel the fans okay you can you can enter the court from this side or right here i

don't know if you could do that either no because you could promote so i thought about this whenever it was during the break but as i said it's like you could have a designated area where you got like a dj and like the team is going to come speak to afterwards student section like a parking lot but like outside maybe like so everybody can go to an area so you go away from the court as opposed to onto the court like everybody knows like hey we're meeting at blah blah. If a win happens and you kind of create that as a tradition, how hard is that going to be to institute? That's going to be impossible. And then you've got to prepare every single fucking game.

That's the thing. It's like good luck reasoning with boozed-up college kids if you beat Duke on your home court. That's the other thing. It's like a lot of these kids probably you don't ever get to go down on the court. That's sweet. Like, hey, let's go fucking down there. And, you know, and I'm boozed up on top of it.

So, yeah, like, actually, we're going to need you to turn around, walk slowly, slowly, so we don't start a, you know, a big fracas going up the stairs. And then we'll sit there like that. That is never going to happen. I was excited to see what word you pulled there. Fracas. Fracas was a good one. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know what it means still. But in my mind with one of those clues pulled there. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud.

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Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. Fraud. I look over and I see somebody trying to climb. Don't worry about it. I'm going to go over here. Yeah, and then you've got some 80-year-old lady who's going there watching it, getting bumped and taking a header off. I don't know what the right answer is. We are coming from a perspective of not knowing the right answer, but we would just like the Stormers to have a little bit more cooth for the situation.

And the players. They'll get it. Be aware that the court is going to get stormed. Get off the court. If not, federal prison. See, we don't need that. We don't need more people in jail. We don't need more people scared to celebrate wins.

We need more people celebrating stuff. Because that means they care. But we've got to care with a little bit of a brain. We can't be running into Phil Poskey. Can't be running into Phil Poskey. I don't care if four days later he's putting one through his fucking legs and dunking it. It doesn't matter. We can't be running into

him. Just avoid him. Just avoid him. I almost died. Phil Poskey. And then he gets an overalls kick. Yeah. I mean, if you're an overalls kid, you've got to drive that knee. How did he survive? It's almost the triple D. One and done. From the first guy to the second guy.

This guy's a fucking hero. That guy coming off the bench, he's like, oh, Bill Poskey's weak. Peter Pan. Oh, and Shire. Coach was not happy. Coach was not happy. That's pretty standard for his kid. No, the best is this kid. He got a cramp, I heard. I heard he got a cramp right there.

The kid who's got him around his arm. Yeah, I heard he got a cramp. That's why they were carrying him. I actually love it. Carrying him off like he just got shelled on Omaha Beach trying to get him. I love it. I love it. This took over the internet.

Big time. This took over the internet. The conversation got very, very heated. Oh, my God. Doug. You could tell college basketball players and coaches, and not all of them, obviously, just the ones that I saw, and negativity hogs publicity, obviously. But they were like, yeah, something's been having to happen about this for a long time.

You can tell. That's why I say I'm not in the college basketball world, so it's hard for me to give a legit opinion. But you can hear some players, ex-players, and coaches like, it's about damn time. This has been a cluster fuck waiting to happen for a while because they don't have a lot of room no but hopefully college basketball figure it out but we need to keep college passion that's right we need to keep

college sports passion it's good for sport as a whole speaking of good as a whole it's great being back life feels good yes i enjoyed the hell out of my time with my lovely, beautiful wife and my daughter, dude. She grows so much every day. Oh, yeah. It's been so much fun watching, learning, living. I don't know how you were able to do that ten times, as I say, with the amount of kids that you have. But I had a fantastic break. But it's great to be back chit-chatting about sports.

AJ, phenomenal getting to see you once again on a TV screen. Even though you lost service there for a little bit as Mad Mel joined us. That was, hey, I tell you what, I did not expect the ending, but that was beautiful, beautiful work by Mad Mel. We'll be trying to patch things up with Mad Mel as draft season continues. Boys in the back, great work first day back. Everybody out, boys. Great work first day back, boys.

Toxic Table, phenomenal job today, boys. Toxic Table. Phenomenal job today, boys. Look at us taking a victory lap. Look at us. That's the problem with this show. Self-righteous sons of bitches. Any other new tattoos? Any other new tattoos in the room? That's what I'm saying.

It's hard not to whenever you got people like one half of the hammer down. Cowboys, 10 digs. Great show. Thank you, Tony. Sweet tech. Thank you. Appreciate it. Looks super sweet. Cowboys, 10 digs, great show. Sweet tech. Thank you. Appreciate it. Looks super sweet.

That's a great goddess, dude. Family. Seven hours. Seven hours. Right here, just like this. Yeah, that's good. That had to lay on the stomach. And con man's con.

That had to hurt. You got it like on one of the most sensitive spots, didn't you? Yeah, right there on your tricep and your bicep. You got it on your penis. It was fine. Don't you worry. Can you tattoo the shaft? People do that, right?

You can do anything. People do the thing through it. Prince Albert. That was wild when I heard about that. Excuse me? DJ Pauly D. What? Does he have that?

First episode of Jersey Shore. Yep, he's gone. I don't know how you battle through that. That's a mental toughness I don't think I'll ever have. Nope. But thanks to them for doing it, though. Showing us what's possible. That's right.

Amen. Showing us what's possible. Thank you so much. All right, let's get the hell out of here. We'll be back tomorrow. I have the incredible opportunity right now to fly to do Monday Night Raw. Speaking of the WWE, I have a little bit of an announcement to make. Our show will be live.

Let me make sure I get this right. Let me make sure I get this right. Please hold. Holding. They got a sweet name for it that describes it for exactly what it's supposed to be. We will be live at WWE World

in Philadelphia the Friday before WrestleMania. The Friday before the Smack the Friday before WrestleMania, the Friday before the SmackDown, before WrestleMania. We'll be live from WWE World, which I believe is like a FanFest convention center type thing. It is awesome. It is. Yeah, we've gone to a couple in the past.

I don't know if they've always called it the WWE World, but it's a convention pretty much, and it is normally pretty packed, and the energy should be immaculate. We cannot wait to get there. Very thankful for the WWE having us there. Also very thankful for the WWE having a couple of the boys in WWE 2K24. Wrestling fans are pumped about you guys being in there.

I saw that. Yeah. Wrestling fans are pumped. We'll see. Oh, wait, was that sarcasm i was on the good part of the internet that is i muted i had to mute a bunch of them because boy it was latin they're coming from a place of love so like in their fanhood right and their passion understandable so it's like ah i was like caught in a spot where it was like, wanted to defend the boys.

Like, hey, this is, we're not taking it. There's no spots being taken. But also, I appreciate how pissed you are. Yeah. Because you're rightfully, hey, I hear what you're saying. You want to wrestle as Bill Goldberg. I get it. We understand.

I get it. We completely understand. I'd rather play as Eugene, too. I don't know if he's in it, but I do know that there's obviously legends, and I don't know how many or who it's going to be, but we're going to win with you guys. Amen. Aren't we?

Coming for the finishing everybody's story. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Should be a good one. Bill Burr joins us at 1230. That should be electrifying. Let's go. Feels like every convo we have with Bill Burr. We've gotten a chance to chat with him a few times.

We are all massive fans of Bill Burr. Massive fans. Love him. First 10 minutes, he has to remember that he doesn't hate us. I think he thinks, especially because of who we are, how I am, how I operate,

boy, I'm basically everything that Bill Burr would hate. So then after about 8 to 10 minutes, I think he realizes, not a complete douchebag. I remember these guys. Sometimes. I don't know if we'll, like, yeah, I think that sometimes. Now, I don't know if we'll be able to get them,

but they end up being, like, some of our best conversations of all time. Oh, yeah. Especially with him being on the Dynasty, and he's a massive Patriot fan, and what you have said about the first three episodes, how Patriot fans feel about it. I'll be excited to get kind of his take on what it is, how it is. And I saw some people on the Internet say,

you need to watch the rest of it, though. Because you're a little early maybe saying that this thing is over. Definitely. And I think the first three are not the bones of it. I think the next seven should be great and all those other things that I do want to learn about. That stunk for New England will still be great to learn about. But if Bill Burr has seen Man in the Arena, I'd be interested to see what his two thoughts are

because Man in the Arena is just about the Patriots, like the teams, the success, all that. The Brady documentary, that was 10 episodes. I mean, people also say that. And then the Dynasty is much more in-depth about the bullshit. If they got Bill Burr in there, I'll be excited to listen to it. Everything the guy says, I'm, you know. Yep, yeah.

Number 81's episode was very good, by the way. Okay. I can't wait to see it. Say his name. There's a lot. I mean, there's a lot to talk about up there. That's why I think a lot of people are excited about it. I'm going to chat with Bill like, what did Bill, what was he pitched? What was he told?

What does he think? You know? We can ask him all those things because I'm assuming it's going to do well, this Dynasty. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm assuming a lot of people are going to watch this. Everybody's going to watch it. Because the people who don't like it are still going to watch it. Patriots fans, I'm not going to sit on three and not watch the rest. I'm going to watch this. And I think Bill Burr's on tour. He's in Indiana, I believe,

coming up. Hell yeah. He's good for the city of Indianapolis. Something to do. We like that. Everybody seems to come through here. Oh yeah. Adam Sandler sold this Sold this fucker out on a Tuesday I think it was a Tuesday or a Wednesday

Packed Gamebridge Arena You said it was an awesome show too Awesome All the way to the roof All the way to the roof It was packed out on like a Tuesday or Wednesday Like if you do things in Indianapolis

People will be like Let's fucking go Yeah perfect I don't have shit to do Yeah bingo Let's go do that. Chappelle. Chappelle. Same thing. Blake Shelton show. Blake Shelton. Stupid.

He's back on the road again. Honky tonk. He's in Texas and Louisiana, I believe. He's headed to Canada next, I believe. He's a showman. International. He is good. Alright, let's get the fuck out of here. We'll be back tomorrow. It's been a fun day. Oh, let's check it. Let's check it. Oh yeah, you's get the fuck out of here. We'll be back tomorrow. It's been a fun day. Oh, let's check it. Let's check it.

Oh, yeah. You got it. First one's in. All these are flat because we haven't touched them. Oh, yeah. We haven't touched them since, so I literally have not shot one. Come on. That was good.

All right, all right. There you go. How many $500 winners? First day back. First day back. First was going to say. All right. All right. There you go. How many $500 winners? First day back. First day back. First day back. Ted. 25.

There'll be more throughout the week. 25. 25 $500 winners. We're off 10 shows. It should be 10. That's good. 15. Cut it in the middle.

All right. We'll do 20. Okay. Okay. No, 25. That was good, didn't it? You see how excited everybody got except for Tone and Conor. AJ got excited even from Ohio, didn't you?

I saw you puff the cigar a few times. Very excited for 25, yeah. Did you get any new cigars whenever you were on that cruise down there in the Caribbean? I did not pick up any cigars while I was there. Oh, you did? It's illegal. That's why he's responding. Son of a bitch.

We didn't go to Cuba or whatever. We didn't go to Cuba. We didn't go to anywhere like that. Or whatever. Where'd you guys go? Where was the Buckeye cruise this year? Well, I got off the boat early, but the only stop I was there was for Turks and Caicos. How'd you get off the boat?

It was a great place. Wow, I saw some photos. We did. Is everybody jacked on an Ohio cruise? It makes sense that everybody is jacked. I saw General Bob Carpenter posted a photo and every person in there was jacked i didn't see you in there were you taking the picture i was gone that when he took that that was key west i believe i was gone but yeah you're right people are jacked

up there okay so did you take this but you were gone already you got off how did you get off i had to get you know nobody my wife didn't even go on the boat my brother came with me you know it's tough to we need multiple, multiple people to figure out the kids' situations. Did you miss the musical performances? Who? Who was the musical performer? Didn't P. Diddy and Meek Mill perform?

They've been in the news lately. I thought four of the Ohio State Buckeyes. How was that going to end? Man. It's a very descriptive lawsuit. There's a lot, yeah. And then at the bottom, and I watched KFC's

Minuteman News on or whatever, at the bottom, them just saying who the name is redacted pretty much. That's wild. Is that real? I don't know what's real and what isn't real, but I want to let you know, that was wild a couple days on the internet. It was.

I thought there was a new album out. There is, but not. But not. Yeah. It was wild. It's crazy time. It is. 25 winners. $500 on this beautiful Welcome Back Monday, March 4th, 2024. Yeah, 25. $500 on this beautiful. Welcome back Monday, March 4th, 2024. Now, people are going to remember today

as the first day back from a two-week break that some people messaged and said felt like two months, and towards the end of it, we all were super-duper antsy to get back in here, but a day that'll be remembered as the start of the most fun off-season we've ever had in our entire life. Hell yeah. Come on. Because not only are we going to be at WWE World,

I believe we're going to be opening day MLB at a ballpark somewhere. Love that. I believe Home Run Derby, we're going to be somewhere. I believe the draft, we're going to be up there. Yeah, I think we're going to be doing... I'm not saying it yet.

That one has not been confirmed. Don't jinx it. We're trying to get the show to things that are happening, AJ. We're trying to do that. That'll be fun. That'll be a good time. Shout out to ESPN.

Shout out to ESPN shout out espn having the connections for all these things not wwe would have happened regardless but gonna make it only better sure which we appreciate wwe world friday before wrestlemania now 25 winners 500 all i gotta do is make this shot for the people okay don't be a prick pat You got it For Mad Mel Nice Up and down Alright we'll be back tomorrow We love you all so much

Thank you for the kind words while we were off We hope you'll continue to rock with us And when you stop we'll completely understand Be a friend tell a friend something nice It might change their life We're in this thing together Team on me. Team on three.

One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.