The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1082 - Franchise Tag Tuesday, Michael Lombardi, Bill Burr, Mike Florio, Dan Orlovsky, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys are back to cover all the NFL news surrounding the Franchise Tag Deadline at 4pm EST, starting with Russell Wilson's contractually historic release from the Denver Broncos & Minnesota as a potential landing spot for him. Throughout the show, Pat & the boys react to a plethora of news including Ravens DT Justin Madubuike, Bucs S Antoine Winfield, Jaguars pass rusher Josh Allen, & Colts WR Michael Pittman Jr. all receiving the franchise tag, Safeties Jamal Adams & Quandre Diggs getting released by the Seahawks, TE Dalton Schultz reaching an extension with the Texans & much more. In the first hour, 3x Super Bowl Champion & host of the Lombardi Line and GM Shuffle podcasts, Michael Lombardi pops by to address the recent conversations around the Raider Way and give us his reaction to Wilson's $85M Dead Cap release. Also in the first hour, legenrdary comedian & star of "Old Dads" & "Leo" on Netflix, Bill Burr joins the show to discuss his upcoming tour: Bill Burr Live, give his take on the Patriots dominance over the last two decades & how it's portrayed in the new Apple TV show "Dynasty", steroids, and much more. In the second hour, creator & owner of Pro Football Talk, Mike Florio, comes on the show for a great conversation about his recent report that Kirk Cousins is looking for schools & a house in the Atlanta area, Caleb Williams' commitment to the Quarterback craft, the Steelers quarterback situation heading into next season, Chiefsaholic & more. Also in the third hour, we are blessed with another classic Ty Schmit bathroom break. In the fourth hour, Pat breaks down what he's learned from Special Teams Coordinators about the new NFL Hybrid Kickoff Proposal and what it means for the play going forward. To help close things out, Michael Lombardi rejoins the progrum to give his take on the response to Apple TV's "Dynasty" & ESPN Analyst Dan Orlovsky joins us live from a golf course in florida to show off a 3-wood swing. Make sure you subscribe to youtube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this glorious Franchise Tag Tuesday, March 5th, 2024. This sports program starts now! Sports are glorious, and we'll be talking about sports all damn day, especially the Franchise Tag deadline that is looming just four hours from now, what teams will lock a player down for at least one year as we look ahead to free agency that joined a conversation that we haven't had in some time. Ladies and gentlemen, there is a new member of the free agency list that we could have never expected to go down this way

in a historic move with the biggest dead cap hit to an NFL team in the history of the NFL. $85 million spread over two years will not be available for the Denver Broncos to use as the salary cap continues to yodel, yodel, yodel. $85 million will not be available for the Denver Broncos because they have cut Russell Wilson. Future, people say, Hall of Fame quarterback. Super Bowl champion from the Seattle Seahawks. Massive investment by the Walton

family whenever they bought the Denver Broncos to be the future of the Denver Broncos. And here we sit one year into Sean Payton's regime as the actual future of the Denver Broncos with no here we sit one year into Sean Payton's regime as the actual future of the Denver Broncos with no franchise quarterback and Russell Wilson able to take a gig somewhere else for league minimum while still making like $39 million from the Denver Broncos. So if you start reading some tea leaves around the NFL and around the internet, more specifically from an Italian

man that lives in a cabin in West Virginia who's a former lawyer who runs Pro Football Talk, he said that what he heard is that Kirk Cousins is looking for houses in Atlanta. The Atlanta Falcons are looking for a franchise quarterback. Kirk Cousins obviously was

the bell of the ball of the free agent quarterbacks that were available. Mike Florio, who's been around the NFL, I don't know, like 30 years, seems to know the ins and outs of everything. He says Kirk is looking at Atlanta. So then you look at the Minnesota Vikings. What are they about to do? Well, they're about to pay Justin Jefferson a lot of money.

The conversation has been for a lot of teams, if you pay a wide receiver quarterback money, you're probably going to have to have a rookie quarterback because the salary isn't going to be able to hold a veteran quarterback salary and a massive wide receiver. Well, you could pay Russell Wilson one point something million dollars

as his salary, and he has Justin Jefferson, Kevin O'Connell, and an offense that was able to have Nick Mullins throw for 400 yards. Kevin O'Connell, former quarterback, seems to get along with all of his players. Russell Wilson is in a time where it feels like he might need to get his moxie back, his confidence back, find some new. I'm not

piecing tea leaves together, but it feels like Russell Wilson might be a Minnesota Viking quarterback next year. And that is from zero inside sources. That is from no information at all other than the fact that you can pay Russell Wilson $1.15 million salary next year while the Denver Broncos pick up a $40 million tab pretty much. Russell Wilson is going to be a hot commodity. How does this shake up the rest of everything happening around the NFL? We'll chat about it all damn day. Mike Florio will be joining us in the second hour.

He's the guy that said he heard Kirk Cousins is looking for houses in Atlanta. He does have sources. Sometimes, though, you've got to prod a little bit. You guys say, don't you think there's a chance that this actually is happening instead of this? Maybe. But what I'm hearing is blah, blah, blah. He also got a chance to chat with Caleb Williams

for 10 minutes. He has ideas on a kickoff rule, which I will be laying out to the entire world at some point during today's show because I had a few special teams coaches call me and say, here's where we're at. Here's what we're presenting. We would like the world to know exactly what we're presenting, as opposed to the hit or miss presentations that have kind of been out there on the Internet thus far. So today should be a massive day. We're talking about all the sports that are currently happening in the world.

And I am lucky to be doing it alongside a great group of sports. Stooges, the Talks at Table, that boss of Connor and that Ty Schmider here. Conman, great shirt. Oh, I appreciate it. Yeah, I haven't worn a wolf in a long time. Figured I'd throw it on, especially on a day like today. You know, it's still nice weather, even though it is a little cloudy in Indianapolis. But I'm feeling great. Russell Wilson, you're

mentioning the Vikings. I mean, hey, slow down, okay? There's a couple teams out there. New England Patriots, I don't think you even know. I heard yesterday you guys got Joey Flack. Yeah, exactly. What's wrong with Flacco, Wilson, Jacoby Brissett, and a rookie quarterback? Who says no? We don't have to pay any of them anything

aside from... Joe Flacco's going to get paid some money. Well, yeah, I'd give Flacco $30 million, $35 million, and then you kind of – The fact that Russell Wilson is not going to be owed anything through a new team – Game changer. Is a huge – he's a rookie quarterback, obviously. He's how Russell Wilson is going to be viewed. Now going to have to learn a new offense, you would assume, no matter where he heads. Have to get into a new building.

Don't think he'll get his own office and stuff like that like we had heard about how Denver goes. But if you think about when he got to Denver, what it was. Oh, yeah. Super Bowl. The dreams. Top 10 in Super Bowl odds. This team needs quarterback. This team made a massive move and got a franchise quarterback.

This team paid this guy $250 million. This guy in the Broncos' future are simpatico. Then Nathaniel Hackett, well, this guy sucks. We need to fire him. Get him out. We need to bring in a winner, Sean Payton. How's that going? Well, allegedly during

a bye week, there was a conversation about maybe a little bit of a change-up to how everything's going so that he couldn't potentially be on the hook for 30 some million dollars to the Denver Broncos if they were able to move on for him next year just didn't seem to work out at all who knows if it was personality reasons who knows if it was off the field who knows if it was just quarterback play him and Cortland Sutton were able to build up a massive relationship he gave a thank you to Denver he thanked everybody in there he thanked thanked the preacher man. He thanked the cafeteria. He thanked his teammates.

He thanked the community of Denver. He thanked the fans of Denver. I think the video people he thanked. Guys who mowed the lawn, Team 3. Training people he thanked. Everybody. Equipment managers I think he thanked. His car dealer I think he thanked.

I think he did thank. His realtor. There was a local, I think he thanked. His car dealer, I think he thanked. I think he did thank. His realtor. His realtor, yep. There was a local chef that made great sandwiches. Uh-huh. He thanked them. I think he even thanked Future. Yep.

Just because. Which no one saw coming. No one saw that coming, that entire thing. Nope. Who did he not thank? I think he didn't thank Sean Payton, any coaches, or the owners of the Denver Broncos. Oh, yeah. They're the ones that are paying them $35.4

million in dead cap next year and then $49.6 million in 2025. A wild scene by a team that says, get us out of this relationship. One half of the Hammer Cowboys Town Diggs

Die Hard Steelers fan. Is Russell Wilson going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler on a veteran men contract? I would say the chances are likely to very likely that he's going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler. How about that? That's how every team is sounding right now. Like, Russell Wilson? Super Bowl champion?

Dan Orlovsky, he's top 10 quarterback. What are we going to pay him? Nothing? Love this guy. That's a real conversation happening with all these teams that are quarterback needy right now. And Russell Wilson went from this guy we don't want on our team. A lot of people saying. We're not saying we said that.

We're saying the narrative about Russell Wilson over the last couple years has certainly changed. The Danger Witch. The Mr. over the last couple years has certainly changed. The Danger Witch, the Mr. Oh, Broncos, let's ride. All this stuff was being viewed in a vastly different fashion than it was in Seattle when he was doing all this stuff. Because in Seattle, you see they were winning.

In Denver, they were awful. So all this stuff that Russell Wilson has been doing his entire career, being basically a movie quarterback. Like the epitome of what a movie NFL quarterback would be like on the sideline, in his workouts, at home, on the internet, in commercials, on the field, in the building. Movie quarterback. How you would draw a character to be if they were an NFL quarterback. Giving back to the community speaking the way always super positive like actually saying clear ass full hearts we're

going to win to other adults in real life not just in movies all that was beloved in seattle in denver though the narrative changed on him quick yeah quick they're like this guy sucks get this guy out of here how is this guy taking seriously boom, boom. Not everybody, but a lot of people started doing that. Now that he's only worth one point something million dollars for next year's salary, everybody that was thinking that that needs a quarterback, we'll take a future Hall of Fame quarterback

for one million. It's a wild turn of events over the last 24 hours. I mean, Russ at 30 million, no, I'm okay. I'm good. But Russ at a million or whatever the minute is, he had 26 touchdowns and eight interceptions last year. The last two years, the last two seasons,

two full seasons, the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterbacks have accounted for 24 total passing touchdowns. TJ Watt has 24 and a half sacks over that time, so more sacks than passing touchdowns. So yeah, I think if you can get a potential future Hall of Famer who has done it, who has

been there, who did enjoy just turning around and handing that ball off to Marshawn Lynch, play action, get out of the boot. Well, except for on that one point. That wasn't his call. At one time, Matt Patricia with that tight corner. Artie Smith is going to know what to do. Yeah, yeah. I'm thinking we would take

him. Why not? I mean, for that price tag? Yeah. Yeah. I think I would. You think him and Artie Smith is going to know what to do. Yeah, I'm thinking we would take him. Why not? For that price tag, yeah. Yeah, I think I would. You think him and Artie Smith, good? Oh, no. Absolutely not. What? What would you know? What is your problem?

I just talked to Artie Smith for about an hour in person. Artie Smith could work for the future Hall of Famer. He definitely could, but at this point, I don't know. I just don't know. Artie Smith's a bit of a hard ass. I think we know that his father is a former Marine. So I think he's got a little bit of that DNA in him. Because I was just initially thinking, well, maybe the Giants.

All these reports are coming out that they have buyer's remorse on Dan Jones. Him and Dable wouldn't get along. It'd be the same thing. Kevin O'Connell and he. I think that could work. Also, maybe. Now granted, everybody in the Vikings organization from we've been told, and we only talked to Kevin O'Connell for a short amount of time.

We didn't get any actual information, but what's being reported is like, we'd love to have Kirk back. Yeah. We'd love to have Kirk Cousins back. They love Kirk Cousins over there. Vikings fans love Kirk Cousins. The building loves Kirk Cousins. I think Justin Jefferson loves Kirk Cousins back. They love Kirk Cousins over there. Vikings fans love Kirk Cousins. The building loves Kirk Cousins. I think Justin Jefferson loves Kirk Cousins

like everybody loves Kirk Co. I think that's the case. But what Kirk has done business-wise throughout his entire career leads us to believe that there is going to be a team that is going to potentially want to pay him what his market value is worth. Is Minnesota going to be able to do that

with what they're going to do for Justin Jefferson, who obviously homegrown, drafted, our guy, our star, best player on the field whenever he's on the field? They've already said they're going to pay him. Who knows if it's possible? But if what Mike Florio is alluding to on Pro Football Talk of NBC Sports, he'll be joining us in about an hour or so, that Kirk Cousins and Atlanta are seemingly going to be a fit down there. It would make sense that Arthur Blank, who just a couple years ago was going to pay $180 million for Deshaun Watson,

or $200 million for Deshaun Watson, went through the Desmond Ritter era here, went through the Arthur Blank era. You bring back Raheem Morris. You have weapons. You have a town that wants explosives and things. Maybe they do pay a full price for Kirk Cousins for a two-year deal to kind of right things. We don't know what all Florio's hearing. We don't know how much of this is real or not real. But if we remove Kirk Cousins from the Minnesota Vikings, Kevin O'Connell's proved he can have a successful offense

with damn near anybody. Now, the weapons they have, obviously, Jordan Addison's a dog. Justin Jefferson's a thing. Tight end, great. Hawkinson. Hawkinson's great. Like, they are able to have an offense.

If you can get a veteran who's been there, done that. Now, granted, who knows what he is behind the scenes. A lot of teammates he shouted out in his thank you note. Right. About, like, inside jokes and stories. And I think there's been some teammates that have gone to bat for him, obviously, publicly numerous times before. But, like, you're not paying him shit. No.

And you've got a guy that can probably pick up an offense. If you're accurate, which Russell Wilson can throw the rock, in that offense they're going to be open. That feels like a natural fit to me personally. I guess it's different because you aren't paying him starting quarterback money, so a lot of teams but don't you think it is also possible like we just talk about you bringing a guy because like he's not there are a few places where he would be the starter probably if he signed with him but in a

lot of these cases like you know with the Steelers are talking about him coming in to compete with Kenny like he's not going to be handed anything and like just the I don't think Russell Wilson can shake who he actually is, good, bad, or indifferent. Like, he is who he is, and I think that's why a lot of people have maybe softened up on it because, like, it's not Hollywood bullshit. Like, that is – what you see is what you get with Russell. All the time.

Exactly. It's like Tim Tebow. He's never been caught not being Russell Wilson, ever. Exactly. And I just wonder if certain teams are like, hey, we just don't want to deal with that shit, whether it turns into a media circus or whatever. But again, you're not paying him $30 million. You're not paying him to come in and necessarily be that guy right away.

And also, Kevin O'Connell, former NFL guy, former player, former quarterback. Sure. Every time we've talked to him, even in the brief time that we got to see him at the Combine, and when he's been on the show, it's like he's just like a football guy. Yeah, for sure. So it's like he's just a football guy. He and Ross might be able to... In my head, as soon as I heard this, and I already had Kirk in Atlanta because of what Florio was saying,

and unlike the rest of the internet, I believe that Florio does know what he's talking about. That guy's been doing it for a long time. So long time. That guy's been breaking news and pissing people off for a long, long time. I've been hearing a little and pissing people off for a long, long time. Whole life. I've been hearing a little bit of this, and then all of a sudden he puts it out,

and the people that he's hearing it about are not happy about him. That happens in pretty much every NFL building for like the last 20 years with Mike Florio. But if all signs are pointing to him being gone and them not being able to keep Kirk in Minnesota, it's like $1 million bucks about. Makes sense. Yeah. Makes a lot of sense. He won a game with the Pasternaut. He did. He was telling the

Pasternaut the plays. Like literally as he's, alright, say this to the team. Perfect. Here's what you have. Alright, you got a slam to the left. The guy to the right is going to do a little bit of blah blah. You got to go from Addison on your far right side. What they are looking like is a shell here. Probably check down running back in the middle here.

And then cut off in the middle. All right. And then they win a game. It's like, I believe in that offense. If you're Russell Wilson, you want to go to a place that's going to have success? And he's worth nothing? It's like, why not? Are you okay?

Are you getting choked up? I mean, I feel like I might be. Jesus. Is that because he's not going to New England? Well, I don't think it has to do with New England. Are you going to die right now? No, I'm not going to die. It might have to do with my door dash right before this.

But I will say. That was the greatest. Some would say that. I would not. Hour and 20. Unbelievable. Greatest app owner. Hour and 20.

Pulled into the lot and then left. Got here finally. Got here after an hour and 20 minutes. Five minutes before show starts. Finally gets. Been watching this car drive through Indiana on the app. Looked like the Skyriders spelling out, like, will you bury me? Getting all the way here.

Did not have another order to drop off. Literally no idea how this became the path to get here. Me neither. We're following along. You're growing in anger. Oh, yeah. Growing in anger. Fuming.

Because you gave a big tip beforehand. Beforehand. Ordered it early because I was extra hungry. Yeah, because long night last night. Got back from San Antonio 2, 3 a. Ordered it early because I was extra hungry. Yeah, because long night last night. Got back from San Antonio 2, 3 a.m. You know, the whole thing happens. Then finally gets into parking lot.

Turns around. Beats the gate from shutting back. Leaves building. We're watching it all take place. Outside. Outside we're watching it, too. We just got it. We're waiting for this. This has become a story over the last hour and 20 because connor's obviously a bit dramatic he

leaves goes into the neighborhood across the street drives around comes back you shoved an entire four egg omelet down your gullet within 30 seconds of our show starting yeah congratulations for you handling adversity thank you thank you very much I appreciate that I kind of channel my inner Russell Wilson But if you were to think from Russ's perspective I like that Clear eyes, full heart, full stomach Well not completely full because the food was ice cold And a little broken heart too

Broken heart definitely I was looking forward to that for a very very long time But revenge Russ Could say Minnesota's awesome, Justin Jefferson's awesome. I could stay in the division, go to the Raiders, play with Devontae Adams. Tom Telesco, he's a

savvy GM. He knows, hey, we could pay this guy. Is he a Raider? No. Do they know what the Raiders are right now, though? Antonio Pierce does, right? Aren't they trying to be Raiders? Yeah, Antonio Pierce, he is enough Raider to ooze into

Russ. I think if they spend... But that's not what we heard from a clip that was clipped from Michael Lombardi. Lombardi is a racist Italian man. That is what was being said about him. He was so mad. Oh, yeah. So you take two clips that don't have anything to do with each other.

You lump them into one because you're Dove Cleveman. Dove Cleveland. Dove Cleveland. Dove Cleveland does this on the internet. Then all of a sudden, people, that's all they see. And all of a sudden, I'm the worst. I'm the bad guy. I don't know how that even.

I mean, seriously, what are we? Yeah, right. Has anyone ever listened to him talk either? Like, the guy has been in football longer than you. He was also Al Davis' right-hand man at the Raiders. He does know the Raider way. He understands what it is. Yeah, definitely call

on Bill. Because we got 13 minutes here. He was getting... Oh, he was getting killed. Absolutely killed. Ridiculous. But that is something we need to think about is the Raiders. They're trying to build back the Raiders. Now, I to build back the Raiders. Now, I'm not saying Aiden O'Connell is necessarily a Raider,

but maybe his mustache is. He's awesome. I don't know him personally. Rich Gannon ain't walking through that door. You don't know that. You don't know that. Yeah, Russ Wilson might be. I mean, Rich Gannon's pump fakes were certainly something that everybody wanted.

Yeah. Okay, I understand. Everybody from one side of this country to the other that picked up a football said, I would like to be as efficient as Rich Gannon is with his pump fake. I would like to be able to put the ball into a keyhole like Rich Gannon. They need to find another

one of those guys. Rich Gannon, though, is not just you find on a tree, but the Raiders are looking for, I think, Raiders at every position. It's like, is Russell Wilson? I don't know if now is the time for Russell. Like Josh McDaniels and Ziegler, when they were running the Raiders, that feels like a Russell Wilson.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a racist old Italian man, Michael Lombardi. What's up, guys? Lombo, hey, we're talking about something that you know nothing about, but you popped your mouth off about, and you're incredibly racist. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the Raider way. We're talking about the Raider way.

Now, obviously, you got clipped out of context by Dove Cleveland and the internet. Who is he, anyway? Is he just like some strange cat somewhere in a basement in Israel? Yes. You've done the same amount of research as us. I think you're on it. We don't know. There's a lot of information accruers on the internet,

and we have fallen victim, obviously, to a couple times of clips being taken out of context and quoted and sent out, and it's a part of the NFL storyline and sports headlines. It's going to happen. This is the new modern day. But then whenever your character gets assassinated off of clips getting taken, I can see how you get pissed off.

We would like to let you know. I'm going to fight back. Yeah, bank it. I'm going to fight back. Amen. Yeah, so are we. I'm not going to let that guy put words in my mouth. I mean, he took two separate instances and tried to combine them into one.

And then somebody accused me of talking down to the, to Pierce. I was given, if anybody listens to the, reads the Daily Coach or listens to my podcast and talk about leadership, that's all I'm talking about. And so, you know, I think to me, anytime you try to, you know, engage somebody who's been beating you on a consistent basis, I'm not sure that's the smart strategy. I mean, you can go back in time to Napoleon's time when you want to make sure that your enemy doesn't know you're coming. And, you know, to me, they don't have a recipe for beating the Raiders, the Chiefs.

They've won one game, you know, and that was great. But, like, I just was saying to him in a way, look, just keep it quiet. Let them take you as nobody. Listen, Lambeau, you're allowed to have your opinion. You've been in every position in the NFL. You obviously know the Raiders organization very well. You're allowed to do what you're allowed to do. You're allowed to say whatever the hell.

It's your league. You've been around the league for however long you want. We would like to go on the record, though, that we don't think you're a racist. No, we don't. We don't think that is the case. I'm not. Well, you saying that now. I thought a racist would say. no we don't we don't think that is the case well you saying that now i'm joking i'm joking let's move forward though when we're talking about the raider way

like the boys mentioned he's going to be worth his veteran man is what 1.15 million because vikings are our broncos are going to pick up 39 million dollars or whatever the case is so like there's a lot of teams that are quarterback needy that are all of a sudden like, wait a minute, Mr. Unlimited's available. Give us the founder of the Danger Witch, especially at that cost to their salary cap and to their team. I think it's going to have a pretty, I think personally, I might be wrong, there's going to be a lot of people interested if it can be a $1 million, $2 million deal for your

quarterback. That means you can spend money everywhere else. Raiders would not be one of those places, right? They're trying to find the Raider way. Russell Wilson is what? The complete opposite of a Raider? Yeah, it would be in terms of size. The Raider way is about size and speed, about getting guys

that can run, that are big and physical in the offensive and defensive line. I might be wrong, though, but it is also like, isn't it a... Attitude, swagger? Yeah, like there's a moxie, a swagger, a confidence, a cockiness almost, seemingly. But a love of football that combines with that, you know?

And so, like, the Howie Long, he represents the Raider way. Those guys are physical, big, tough guys. Look, Russell's only going to make what he makes, right? So this is like anybody who's out there on the internet saying Russell's going to make, you know, they're going to pay him like a starter. Nobody should do that. Now, I can't, you know, I can't judge everybody, but the reality of it is, is whatever nickel he earns over the minimum salary, he's got, Denver gets off the hook. So it isn't his capped earnings. So you're not going to pay him anymore. So he's a minimum salary contract guy.

Now you could put incentives in there and do all that stuff. I don't know if the incentives come off as earned. It probably does. So it takes Denver off the hook, but you don't mind doing that in terms of if he wins for you. But the reality of it is, is this is a minimum contract and you've got to come in and improve yourself,

which is where he is. And I think ultimately that's going to appeal to some teams. It may not appeal to Russell though. So what I would assume, Oh, that's interesting. Like Russell doesn't know that this is potentially about to happen. Like our immediate thought was,

this dude's getting a veteran men contract. It's getting 39 from Denver because he didn't thank the owners. Right. He didn't thank Sean Payton and his goodbye thing. So like sticking it to Denver, you're saying letting Denver off the hook is probably something he's like, man, they're going to pay me. These people are going to pay me.

So I just assumed that he would be on board with that. We will see over the next couple of weeks. Certainly if Kirk Cousins is to leave Minnesota, Minnesota is a perfect place for him. Isn't it with Minnesota with Kevin O'Connell and that offense, with them having to pay Justin Jefferson? Is that what your thoughts are? Well, that would be my thought.

I mean, Minnesota right now has around $35 million of cap room. So, you know, they're waiting on Cousins. They'll take a huge cap hit when he leaves, obviously. They've got that built into their salary cap structure right now. But I think at the end of the day, you know, you're going to have to make it really worth Cousins Wild to leave, right? I think most players want to stay within the system. But when the money gets great, or they can get to a tax-free state, that's really important

too. You know, everybody says, give us a hometown discount. There is no hometown discount. It's a tax-free state discount, right? If you're trying to do a Mike Evans' contract in Tampa, Florida, with no state income tax, and if the Jets were trying to sign him, that contract has to be adjusted to offset that state income tax. That's a hard thing. That's challenging for the team. So I think that Cousins, unless somebody blows it out of the water, I think Minnesota's going to be in it. But where does Minnesota go if they don't sign him back? I think they've got to look at somebody like Russell to buy time until they get the next quarterback.

We appreciate you, Lambeau. We love you, brother. And, hey, remember, this is the world we're in now. Like, you're going to get taken out of college. I'm all good for it. I'm thick-skinned. Look, I grew up Italian in a row home. There ain't nothing going to hit me.

And let me say this to you, too. Let me add this to you, too. And Chuck can verify. I've been an MF by Al Davis more times than you can count. Anybody on Twitter could never match that. I can promise. Dove Cleveland's going to try though. I appreciate the hell out of you. I'll see you guys.

Michael DeMarco. Alright, so he's thinking the same thing we are. Like, yeah, this is a minimum contract. I think Russ has got to be thinking that. Now, I don't know where it came from. It could have been one of the aggregators. It could have been but I thought there was a report out there that Russ was like, yeah, I will do the

minimum so that it comes off of Denver and not the team that I'm going to. Yeah, it just feels like why wouldn't you mentally build up the team around you like it is for your own benefit. Like, hey, do you want a better offensive line or maybe another running back that you can throw to?

Take a vet men contract and we can get that stuff for you. Always say, always say that he's a movie quarterback. Yes. Oh, yeah. Good movie. Take the veteran men. Absolutely. Prove myself again.

That's right. Got into a system that I liked. Did well. Win. Boom, boom, boom. Found my new home. Yeah. Found my new home in this place.

You know, because we found love in a hopeless place that's why we thought him and Kevin James were gonna be so good together because they are a movie quarterback a movie yeah you're right and we thought Kevin James you're talking Sean Payton there yeah well Doug would be good but like the largest dead cap in history the way that story could be told by Russell Wilson not by a little 45 million dollar difference for the largest dead cap in history, the way that story could be told by Russell Wilson and his people. $45 million difference for the largest dead cap in history. Matt Ryan, $40.5 million? Yeah.

We're done. Who was that? Stop. Okay. Well. Was it? Aaron Rodgers. Okay.

Carson Wentz. Sure. Was that? No. No, it can't be. And then Russellz. Sure. Was that? No. No, it can't be. And Russell Wilson. Again, whenever he leaves Seattle, the whole story that the Russell Wilson team can tell here

about we're the most unwanted quarterback in the history of the NFL. And I had to prove myself veteran. I had a Hall of Fame resume already. I was a top 10 quarterback. Dana Roslovsky was saying that. Literally all day, every day. And I'm playing on a veteran men with the highest payout. I just, I knew it was my back's

against the wall. Now it's time. Like the story that can, the last dance documentary that can happen during this entire thing is huge. Now that motivate Russell Wilson to be Russell Wilson that we've seen play very good football? Or will Russell Wilson, with this whole thing,

which we have not seen in the history of Russell Wilson, start doubting himself a little bit? Didn't sound like it in the thank you. Didn't sound like it in anything like that. God's got him. You're damn right. It's all said. Amen. Amen. Amen.

Amen. Franchise tag about three hours and 32 minutes until the timeline. T. Higgins has been tagged in Cincinnati. He's back. Now, remember, he was asked at his locker about taking less. No, Jamar Chase was asked about taking less money for T. Higgins. It was very uncomfortable in locker

cleanup day whenever a team was down. And he said, what are we even talking about? T. Higgins is back. He was tagged. $21.8 million he'll make. T. Higgins is a beast. That is obviously huge for the Cincinnati Bengals. T. Higgins would have wanted a long-term deal with a lot more money guaranteed for the rest of his life because of everything he's done.

And how short his window is to be an income earner. But $21.8 million guaranteed over the next year. Still have time to negotiate a long-term deal, even though everybody thinks that's probably not likely. But Jerry Sneed in Kansas City. Dog. Yeah, dog. Weapon. Yep.

He has a great P.O. punch. Like at the half yard line. Like the closest I've ever seen a touchdown happen? No. Because of Hayah. Pretty big moment. All year though. Beast. Spagnuolo back. Defense coordinator. All the pieces.

Spagnuolo was on the record saying during the playoff run that all 11 of my guys are high football IQ guys. All 11 of them. So we're able to just switch and do shit that I've never been able to do before. Now, Chris Jones, not franchise dad, he's up there in the middle. He said drunkenly in a

speech at the parade before devastation took place, as the city was doing what we would hope every city will do going forward and has done since the beginning of these things, celebrate the greatness that they in their town accomplished together. A happiness, a celebration that no other city in the world is allowed to have but yours because of the work that you all have put in both on Sundays and through the week celebrating.

Parades are a good thing. We cannot ever stop thinking that or get scared. You're supposed to have those moments in life. That's why I don't like the thought of wrangling, you know, students being excited. Like we need people celebrating and being happy in this world more often. But in that celebration, Chris Jones hammered. Hammered drunk. Bodied.

Just absolutely slaughtered drunk. Just absolutely slaughtered drunk. Gets on a microphone and says, I'll be back. Three more years. We're going to do this thing. His agent immediately tweets, cut them off. Get a microphone

out of it. The Katz brothers are obviously incredibly hilarious. He's now potentially a free agent. agent alongside a man from Miami who's not getting franchise time. What's his name, Gumpy? Christian Wilkins, the guy that plays every snap and pretty much is our best, our heart and soul of our football team. So he's available?

Yes. Okay, he's coming to Indianapolis. He should. Anybody who can pay him, I would pay him. Could you imagine him going to New England? We talked about it yesterday. Overpay. Start overpaying. Brian Burns tagged in Carolina. Josh Allen

Jags defensive end likely to be tagged. Michael Pittman likely to be tagged at the Colts. Antoine Winfield Jr. likely to be tagged down there in Florida. And Justin Matabuke. Ravens D-lineman likely to be tagged. This is what Adam Scheffer said yesterday. We'll keep our eyes on that.

Joining us now is a legend of a human. Hell yeah. Let me make sure I get the stats right. On October 20th, 2023, this man, okay, released his film on Netflix, Old Dads. How'd it do, you ask, naturally? Right. Yeah, of course. How'd this guy's brain do?

Okay, he directed, co-wrote, produced, and starred in this thing. So how did this one human's brain do? Oh, I don't know. Would go on to be the most watched film worldwide on Netflix in its first and second week on the platform with 29.6 million views. This New England bald-headed brain is a fantastic one. You can see him in the Dynasty series on Apple, which people are calling, whoa, whoa, whoa, ladies and gentlemen, the legend Bill Burr. Yeah, Bill.

Hey, how are you? How's it going? Hey, it's great, man. I feel like I'm way too close. You got the three-quarter shot here. Yeah, I like to show the whole body. That's a little better. Yeah, but you're handsome.

You're a movie star. Hey, movie star. This guy's a movie star right here. Movie star right there. Your face is more beautiful. I got to be zoomed out. You know, Bill, I got to be zoomed out. I got to tell you, I miss the tank tops.

You know, I miss old Patty Guns. What happened? It was inspirational. I know. But you got to remember, with tank tops like i was really fat so those things were very loose you know those are very loose but i only had to do arms there and then it got like real cold here in indiana and i just looked at myself and said i'm not beholden to wearing a tank top every single day nope i can wear a shirt so i started tank tops are coming back though bill we're almost in the season you know we're almost in the season. We're almost in the spring

and summer now here in Indiana. I know, but you also, as far as your wardrobe, you don't want to paint yourself into the corner like Angus Young of ACDC. He doesn't want to wear that school uniform anymore, but he did it for too long. Now he's got to do it. See? 68 years old. 68 years old.

Still got to put it on. Can't you put on a pair of jeans and a t-shirt? That would be you. Oh, God. Then you'd be in your 60s. Your grandmother arms. No one wants to see that. You're right. I made a good move, it sounds. For future me.

What is going on with my stupid thing here? Yeah, you're a director. You're a producer. You can't get a camera on you. I mean, it is wild. Now you can see how much help I had. There it is. It's just all over the place. All right, so what do you want to, like, passively, aggressively act like you're talking about

but really trashing me and my fan base? Let's get to it, Pat. What do you got this time? No, I would never trash your fan base because I'm a part of that. Certainly passive-aggressive questions for you, though. Okay. Mostly because of your sports

fanhood. Now, I want to let you know, obviously we have a Boston scumbag on the program, Boston Connor. He got a brand new tat. You're talking about Grandma Saggy Arms. He's got a brand new tat that says we're on to Cincinnati, quoted by who? William Stephen

Belichick right there. So we got a big time Patriots fan on a microphone every day. What do you think of that tat first of all? I don't want to know. Well, you got to give it up. That's one of the most painful parts to get a tattoo. A lot of guys back in the 90s when they went for the tribal

armband, they would tap out when they got to the inner arm. I got to give them up for that. I don't know. As far as tattoos like that, I'm a big fan of a Post-it. You know, you just kind of write it down. You put it on the fridge. You don't need to put it on your arm.

And that's also a very weird way. You're going to remind yourself like that? Or are you supposed to be going like this to opposing teams' fans, at which point you think you at least get the shaker weight or something going on. We're trying, Bill. It's going to come plenty of time until beach season, okay? He got arm shaming hard.

I have to tell you, the Midwest does not look good on you. I would agree. You got the mullet, you got the mustache. You got to get back east and get yourself a club seat and start doing your skull crushes, brother. Don't try someone again.

He got crushed on the internet yesterday for his flabby arms. And today. And now a master class of telling you have to move because of how bad your arms look. He's definitely at the tipping point. It's either going to get better or it's done. Hey, we're all going to keep an eye on it. This is a big moment. Absolutely.

Hey, what did I do this morning? It's like when Clemens went to the Blue Jays. Everybody thought he was done, and then all of a sudden, he started doing curls. That's what you got to do. That's it. Just curls. Just moving.

You got to do the curls. Yeah, maybe even add in some. Yeah. A little extra baseball juice if you need to. Perhaps. I'm not against science. Yeah, me neither. They got that Royd Olympics.

Have you heard of it? Those guys are heroes. They used it. I'm not saying he did it. I don't want to get in trouble here, but, like, I'm just saying. The guys that did it, you remember what it was like in the 70s? No. I mean, you grew like a horse tail and you, like, killed your whole family

and did suicide by cop. mean you grew like a horse tail and you like killed your whole family and did suicide by cop now now it's it's like a cream you just sort of moisturize it keeps the feet away and you get you get you get your frat boy body back i am tired of athletes taking all the all the hits like they're the only ones doing roids there are so many old dads like me out there just getting yolks again yeah you're looking around looking for wife number two hey those baseball guys hey those baseball guys they used to chew gum and it would boost their testosterone for an at-bat allegedly like. Like, the science they were using. Yeah, they had coffee beans. They're doing everything.

They're entertaining us, and they want to keep doing it. I have no problem with it. Have you heard about these Royd? The Royd Olympics are happening. The Royd Olympics are taking place. Have you heard about this? Yes, I have. You love it.

Well, we got slap fights now. I mean, it's just, like, we've kind of reached the limit of like, you know, once skiing and shooting a bow and arrow, whatever the hell that sport was, like, what do we do now? What do we do now? Legalize. You wait. You wait. Steroids is going to be the next week as far as it's going to be legal.

Well, I don't know who's going to win the Olympics. We are worried about all the muscles that are going to be pulled, though. But the recovery is about to be better than ever. I thought it was the tendons. The tendon snap. The muscle grows bigger. First of all, Pat, let's not act like you didn't do a couple of cycles there.

We're currently enjoying science. You know, hey, shout out to these doctors. The place kicker doesn't know what your butt cheek looks like. Let's just act like we don't know, right? I thought the muscle would make it bigger, but it did make the tendon stronger, so that's what ended up giving. That's what I heard.

Okay. Do you have an entire bit on steroids? It sounds like right now you're touring, right? Coming to Indiana Friday and Gary, Indianapolis, I believe, on Saturday, starting a tour. Is this start of the tour or middle of a tour? We just began. This is my third weekend out.

How do we feel? I'm not going to lie to you. I'm going to pat myself on the back. I'm having some of the best shows of my career. Let's go. I feel like I got two hours of new material. I'm getting ready to shoot a special at some point this year. I'm doing a little boxing,

little old dad, white ball ginger, you know, throwing the hands for 22 second rounds. Yeah. Are you at one of those Rumble classes? Are you at Rumble classes or are we actually going into like a fight club? Oh, no, no.

I'm like, my shoulders are so messed up and it's so funny. It's just like just from being, it wasn't even from sports. It was just from being beat on as a kid. So I kind of held myself like this without even knowing my shoulders were up. And then I was doing push-ups with the wrong form. That's all it was. Yeah.

Years. I wish it was a better story than that. It wasn't. It's all right. It was just a young orange boy trying to protect himself on his way to social studies. Old Freckles did it, didn't he? He did it.

Old Freckles. He did it. Old Freckles did it. Let's talk about what you said. You said it's some of the best shows you've had. Is it crowds? Is it yours? Like, why do you think so?

And we're just in a good spot? Two hours is a lot of shit, right? Yeah, my life is in a good place. I think I've just sort of relaxed and slowed down. I think I was always going a little too fast for a while. But now, I don't know. They've just been seeming effortless. Whatever, I'm a little hit streak right now.

Who knows? In a month from now, I could hate my act. You know, it's the ups and downs. There's a lot of similarities between kicking field goals and telling jokes. I'll tell you that. You get hot, get into a rut. You get mental. You start overthinking it.

Is that real? Yeah, you mess it up. People start booing you. It's the same gig. So whenever you're thinking of this shit, live in person or do you have to go to a place? Like as you're walking through life, you're thinking? Or do you go and sit down and have an entire like like office hours like type work like I'm thinking of shit now? No, I used to do that. I haven't I have not done that since the 90s.

Somewhere along the line, you know, I learned from guys like Tony V. It's just see something. Remember it. Go on stage's just see something remember it go on stage and just start talking about it like so then you just become as relaxed on stage as you are on stage like i always compare it to like in everyday life if you saw something funny on the way home on the way to a bar if you were going to go tell your friends what happened you wouldn't write it all down and memorize it you would just tell them and you'd kill with the story, right? Because you're comfortable with your friends. But then when you get in front of an audience, you don't know these people, only you're talking, your voice is amplified, there's pressure. That's when it becomes something

else and you get outside of yourself. So if you just kind of treat the crowd like you're going to go meet your buddies at the Applebee's or something like that it makes you really relaxed and um you don't worry about references will they get this will they not you're just talking and they're sort of enjoying your company hopefully on a good night yeah but the half off apps also help yeah certainly you know i mean like when you're absolutely yeah when you're delivering a story and you're diving into some of those apps oh my god come on you know what also helps

cell phones in bags that also helps so the comic can feel like they can actually do a show and he won't get ratted out okay that's a big part of this entire thing because we want to Chappelle whenever he came to Indianapolis it was phenomenal awesome and I can't wait to watch you this weekend brother we are very pumped uh that you're back traveling that you're stopping in indy thank you for coming

through uh indianapolis i've always stopped in indy well we appreciate it i've never been a snob yeah that's great i perform for you animals all the way back to the 90ss Alright well let's talk about you in the 90s You pig okay because that's when you said You stopped going to the office hours and everything like that I'm from Massachusetts I'm an animal Amen amen but like Was there a time because all I've remembered Is you being a top comic on earth

So that's like my I'm 36 years old I don't know how long you have felt that way But was there like a moment where you had a breakthrough and like you became guy and you were super comfortable have you ever hit a downtime since becoming the guy where you weren't able to figure out what you were going to say on stage or you weren't as confident on stage or as you just you know seemingly from outside looking in you just go like he did a black and white you remember that oh yeah what was that paper tiger yeah. Yeah. Paper Tiger.

White. Paper Tiger. Paper Tiger. White. White. Tiger. What was the name of that? What was the name of the tiger one?

I don't remember. It was China White. It was about heroin. You're an animal. You're an absolute animal. But for me, it seems like you're just up and to the right. Do you have any of those moments where you kind of back up oh yeah well i mean you just don't see them i don't film them so i uh yeah that's those when you go down to the comedy store you go into the gym

yeah i had a nice premise just completely bomb the other night where at the at the at a club the other night where at a at a at a club yeah i was saying the last act of a selfish person is to die without their affairs in order and then ask for a giant memorial they had to be of a certain age to understand how friggin selfish that is and it was a younger crowd so they were just they don't even know what to have your affairs and orders means. But I'm of that age where people die. And I just find considerate people. They even in death don't want to be a burden, but narcissists, it's, it's how they live on is they create all these arguments.

Well, he would want me to have the car and all of that stuff. It's, it's a way. Cause it's the one thing a narcissist cannot deny is their own mortality so everything else they can debate they're just as smart as a brain surgeon they could be an astronaut if they wanted to but that you're gonna die someday they cannot defeat that so they just completely ignore it and just leave a giant mess for everybody a A couple debts here, credit card payment here,

you got this, you got a thousand antiques that they went and bought, obviously, so everybody has to divvy it up all over the place. See, this is the problem. There's too much explanation needed for it to get a laugh. And I can tell you right now... Oh, I was telling the Youngs why it was funny! That's what I'm saying. I'm saying, hey...

It laid there like an old dog on a porch. All right. Did you grab a drink? What do you do at this stage? You acknowledge what just happened to the young crowd. You guys don't know. I sort of just laugh at myself. I was like, why did I think these kids in their 20s were going to understand what it was like to be 55?

Why would I? All right, let's talk about your fanhood. Let's talk about something else that you're in. And once again, if Bill Burr comes to town, go. Yep. Yeah, it'll be worth it just to hear this man's brain get spilled out into a microphone. And then, hey, you're good, dude. You're a showman.

Oh, yeah. You're good up there. You are. Entertainer. I do a showman. Oh, yeah. You're good up there. You are. Entertainer. I do a little soft shoe. I do. I got a little fussy dance I do in the end with the top hat and a cane. That's what I'm talking about.

You know, that's what I'm talking about. As I sing about this year's election. So as long as you sing it, you don't offend either side. Absolutely. Because it sounds so beautiful. Speaking of something that was beautiful Congrats to the Patriots on having It's hard to rhyme something with dementia though, I will tell you that

Nice I want to mention Maybe you say like I like to mention I forgot to mention I think we can get there I think you can figure it out Does anything rhyme with bankrupting a construction company?

Orange, too, is going to get you. Orange is going to be tough. That's going to be a tough one. It's all tough. This is just getting lost off a stage. That's one, I think, that makes it into my algorithm. I think with your brain, though, you can figure it out. Oh, yeah.

But when you talk about beautiful. No, I'm giving people a relief. I'm not even talking about it. I'm just acting like it isn't happening. So are we. Good for us, dude. Good for us. People say that's not... Like, we shouldn't do that. It's our civil duty

to pay attention. It's like, I'm not the right guy to be paying attention. How about that? How about a little self-awareness? I'm not the right one. No, this is like the Panthers versus the Falcons, like game week 50. Bingo. Bingo.

You got the NFL package, but you're not watching it. Yeah, exactly. Okay, good news. I would like to talk about the NFL a little bit, though, because you're a part of something that is going to be remembered alongside the NFL for a long time. The greatest dynasty in the history of the NFL. Congrats to New because you're a part of something that is going to be remembered alongside the NFL for a long time the greatest dynasty in the history NFL congrats to New England you know it congrats to New England well I I would actually debate that they were

team of the decade team of the decade two decades in a row I I just don't I think a dynasty when I was growing up meant nobody else got a ring all right so like i would say like like say like what the yankees did in the late 90s they won three and four years and that was somebody's like money years as a hitter and as a pitcher and you just weren't on the yankees so you didn't get one this stuff now they're trying to say the chiefs are a dynasty. And it's just like, I remember a bunch of other teams winning during their time. But, you know, AFC championship games count. Like, I don't know. I would say they're a team of the decade.

The Patriots. Twice. Two decades in a row. It's incredible. All right. So, with that in mind and your opinion on it, this documentary, Dynasty. I love that I just derailed you, whatever direction you were going. That was just a massive regroup right there.

It was, dude. You didn't hit the refresh button. Well, because I didn't want to debate you. It feels like you feel pretty solid about your opinion on what a Dynasty is versus Team of the Decade is. Because I would assume if you're Team of the Decade, back-to-back decades, that would be considered a Dynasty. In my eyes. Now, I might be giving dynasty away too much feels like you this is like a hall of fame conversation like is this guy really good or is he a hall of famer you're saying like a dynasty in my eyes if you give away the milk they're not gonna buy the cow you know

we your aunt must have told you that at some point in your life but if you want to just start giving away dynasty on the first date and just be that girl down at the Applebee's, I mean, that's your decision. Half-price apps, though. They do help whenever that whole thing's happening. You're a part of that Dynasty doc, though. And Connor here,

we saw the William Stephen Belichick tattoo on his very jacked, very jacked right arm there. On his way to being jacked. Thank you, Bill. Or you're going to make people respect that tattoo. Amen.

Yes. Well, now make it happen. Don't talk about it. Be about it. Go box. I mean, start of next hour, I'm sitting here with a dumbbell for the rest of the show.

We can get you whatever you need. Two shake weights? Ten shake weights? Sure, I can do both. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Two times. Yeah.

Maybe three some more. I could. Put one on my head. He watched the Dynasty, though, and he's so mad. He's three episodes in. He's like, this is not for New England Patriot fans. This is for the rest of the NFL. We win three Super Bowls.

They gloss that over. But here we are talking about every controversy in massive ways. You're a part of it, obviously. We saw that. We are big fans of the fact that you were a part of it. We're all excited. I have not watched it yet. But have you got the sense that a lot of Patriots fans are kind of like mixed feelings on what this dynasty is?

No. No. You do not get that feeling nobody's nobody that's just all manifested it's all man it's listen like everybody's hating on like the chiefs right now oh they hold every game they don't call it the bubble that's just what happens when you win um but i will say the indianapolis Colts ran a successful smear campaign while cheating their asses off themselves at literally an Olympic level. It was amazing. Yeah, it's like the drunk guy saying, that guy shouldn't be driving.

It was ridiculous. Well, first of all, you say Colts as if everybody associated with Indianapolis Colts. The players didn't want anything to do with that because every time it got brought up it was mentioned that we lost by what 430 yeah it was like 48 yeah we ran for like 300 yards too

but I didn't do anything here's another thing Pat for the love of God why do you guys all act like that suspension wasn't reversed when they took it to court and they just laughed the judge actually got upset saying there's no case here stop wasting my time but then the nfl got panicked because they lost to a player and they're like well we got to suspend this guy or every time we

suspend somebody we're gonna have to pay for a lawsuit okay you know the nfl they're all about the money okay they act like they support the troops. They're charging them for a commercial every time you see a troop there. So don't get it twisted with these guys. So what they did was they they changed their argument. They went back to court and they said, is the NFL a corporation? They said yes. They said, is Tom does does does a corporation have the right to suspend an employee they said yes they said is tom brady an employee of our corporation they said yes they said fine he's suspended that's what happened that's what really happened your stupid study found the exact same number of under inflated balls i didn't do it your guy sat on the competition committee. He made the way we covered your receivers illegal and then you stole our offense, pumped crowd noise into the Hoosier

Dome, and won a Super Bowl. We gave you the offense. We gave you the offense, Bill. We gave you the offense. It was one play. You told your story. I heard your story. You guys are the biggest bitch-ass organization in the NFL. You couldn't beat us.

You had to change the rules. They're cheating. You guys acted like a bunch of little girls. It's the most disrespected dynasty team of the decade ever. You guys sat there crying like a white woman for 20 years. A lot of that on the internet. A lot of that on the internet. I've seen a lot of it.

Hey, remember when you guys tanked a season so you could get Andrew Luck? Oh, nobody remembers that. Who did that? I was on a team! I was on a team. I broke the record for most amount of punts in a season that year. And I was trying to bomb them every single one. So I don't know who.

Peyton Manning coming back. Hey, I feel good. I can play. And they're like, no, Peyton. We're too concerned about your health. For the first time in the history of the NFL, an owner was concerned about a player's health. I was going to walk down and didn't know if he was going to be able to throw a football game. Hey, Bill. Hey, Top, if you think you're going to win this and I didn't know if he was going to be able to throw a football. Hey, Bill.

If you think you're going to win this debate. Bill, listen. I could argue most of the things you just said. Well. Most of them. Could you? Yeah, but you would lose. I mean, there is a chance.

You would lose. As a professional athlete, you would lose to an informed stand-up comedian. That could let you know where your franchise stands in history. That's right, stand-up. Maybe you have a better idea of standing up, Pat. I'm in the building. I'm in the building. So obviously, that's why I believe that the New England Patriots were a dynasty

because I was on the plane rides home from that horrendous place to play, Foxborough, where the fans were top notch. Always. place to play foxborough where the fans were top notch oh just so so rude so loud so often so consistent for good reason it was a full thing to play against the new england patriots i came in towards the tail end of that entire thing drafted in 09 obviously i was there you weren't a big part of it you weren't a big i was gonna say. No, but looking back and learning about it all, it was like that team was a problem because that Colts team is very good, like very, very good.

What Peyton was able to accomplish with that group of dudes who were all very talented, like they made Indianapolis like a football place, but the New England Patriots every year representing the AFC. It was part of a three-man monster. We were a collection of second-round draft picks on down. Yeah, and that's what I enjoyed. That's not what we're going up against. That's why I'm excited this year.

We have one of the top five picks, and I think we're actually going to use it and not trade down to the second round. I haven't seen that since your voice was changing back in the 90s. Yeah, well, in the 90s, I was in... I'm going to be a field goal checker. I didn't say it at that age, but boy, it ended up being okay to be a part...

The thought, though, is that this Dynasty documentary, is it a celebration? Like, that story you just told right there from a New England Patriots fan's side there, all very slanted, biased journalism from a stand-up comedian, obviously. Is it slanted, or does it need to be said to make up for all you other guys, the other

31 teams, just whining and bitching? Why is everybody whining and bitching, though? Why? Because we were winning. Because you were at the artisty! That's one thing we just changed in your head. You're losing your composure. You're just stipulating.

You're making an ass of yourself. Just sit down and listen to me. The first three Super Bowls okay they didn't give tom brady any credit what they said was he's a system quarterback it's all bill belichick i would take peyton manning over tom brady they were saying this when tom had three rings and peyton had zero by the end of his career people then switched and said it was all Tom Brady and Bill Belichick doesn't know what the hell he's doing. So, I mean, that is essentially hating at a top shelf level. I don't understand it because I will say as a Patriots fan, I enjoyed the hell out of watching, you know, the Kansas City Chiefs on the road this year.

I was in Vegas. I went to the game. It was the easiest bet. The easiest, most easiest layup of a bet. The Chiefs getting points in the Super Bowl was the biggest layup since the 2007 Giants were 11-point underdogs against the Patriots, even though they played four weeks

earlier, and the final score was like 36-33. That was in Indianapolis. Great game. Fantastic game. It really was a great game, but you guys are such haters. You had to make it about all of this other stuff.

The good looking guy and blah, blah, blah. The 2007 Giants never got their credit as one of the great runs of all time. They did it all on the road and defeated Belichick in the Sunday. It wasn't that the Giants won, it was that the Patriots lost.

That's all you guys just hating, hating, hating. You're like the ugly chick looking at Farrah Fawcett back in the day, knowing you're not pretty enough to be one of the chicks on the side. You're not even a side chick. Okay, so with all that being said, is that what people are going to get from the dynasty? If they watch all 10 episodes,

because Connor, people are going to get what they already have in their heads, because that's how human beings are. They walk into stuff with their mind made up. That's why you can't hold a comedian accountable for what he said. It's not what I said. It goes into your head. It's cut with all all your experiences and it comes

out like drugs that have been stepped on this isn't this isn't pure coke anymore there's way too much indianapolis x lax in this you know what i think is a good metaphor for people's brains is your buddy's arm thank you flabby arm that's how most people's brains are. They stop learning after they stop school. That's why people get dementia and Alzheimer's. They stop working their brain. They think they know everything. I want to let you know, we're happy your brain never stopped working.

Hey, we are lucky for that. I'm one of the dumbest guys you're ever going to meet. It's just who you surround yourself with right now that you feel I'm intelligent. Fair. Hey, Bill, you're beautiful, man. I can't wait to watch this weekend. I can't wait to watch the Dynasty documentary

that Conor has hated thus far. It's just not about the Dynasty. I told you, I wish it was called The Evil Empire because that's what it's about. Do you agree with that? Well, no. Listen, some nerd who went to film school made it. He's not a football guy. I mean, listen. Some nerd who went to film school made it. He's not a football guy.

I mean, Pat is barely a football guy. He just kicked the ball through the upright. All right, Bill. Well, we know you're a football guy. Can I ask you a question? I got to ask you a question. You must have fantasized about this. Okay.

Okay. Did you punt also? Did you kick field goals? Only punted, yes. Only punted. All right. So here's the thing. You must have fantasized one

time that you you kicked off to a guy he somehow went through the coverage and he's running thinking he's and you came in and not only drilled him what i did not only drilled him you picked up that fumble and he's at the third the 20 lowers his shoulder runs him over kickers are men kickers are men touchdown colers are men. Touchdown Colts. You can't tell me. You can't tell me. You must have had an end zone celebration.

Oh, yes. I think you went like, who's those chicks in Radio City? The Rockettes. The Rockettes. That should have been your celebration. All right. Well, it never happened. I did have that. I know, but I know you thought about it.

A thousand. A thousand times yeah sometimes there'd be like a throwback play potentially it's like oh i'm gonna pick this and i'm gonna that's what's gonna happen here in real life yeah obviously that's not gonna take place it never did bill we appreciate the hell out of you we're back on tv in five seconds okay cool thank you so much for having me i'll see you guys sports are beautiful we are now on espn 2 the end of hour one on espn uh was uh interrupted by a by a full conversation with bill burr for those that weren't following along on youtube or espn plus that conversation took place all

the way up until the countdown, pretty much, coming on to the particular program. Big shout-out to Bill Burr. I can't wait to hear what he's got for two hours on Saturday. Oh, my God. If he's swinging a hot bat... Did you hear what he just said? That's where we're at. We're slapping people.

We're taking steroids. You know the NFL? The military? I don't know. The amount of New England Patriots stuff. Oh, how about you guys? That's where we're at. We're slapping people. We're taking steroids. You know the NFL? The military? I don't know. He's wild. The amount of New England Patriots stuff. Oh, how about you guys running the biggest smear campaign in the history of the NFL? It's like, you guys, hold on a second. How did this turn into our war? Well, I think it's because there were some people on our particular sideline.

I was going to say. That questioned. You know, hey, wait a second. This feels a little... And then all of a sudden it turns into a two-year story with a lawsuit with another lawsuit where the nfl is like wait a second this doesn't matter because we can just do this right it's in this contract yeah we'll suspend them then i mean i assume that's all getting talked about in the dynasty documentary yeah because i'm not 100 sure i remember all of that as much as new englandot fans do, but I think

this is why this Dynasty doc is going to be good, even though one half of the talks at table at Boston Connor thinks it's bad because he's a Patriots fan, watched the first three episodes, thinks it's almost like an expose is what you feel like. Yeah, it's a lot of the stuff that went wrong in New England and some of the stuff I was saying earlier,

I want to hear about. I want to hear more about Spygate, Deflategate even. I want to hear more about Spygate, Deflategate even. I want to hear more about it. Obviously, there was one specific reporter who kind of blew the whole entire thing up. I don't really remember his name because I deleted it from my brain, but I do believe he resides in Indianapolis, Indiana.

If my memory does serve me well. But in the end, it didn't matter because it led to... He's a member of the press! Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And we'll leave it at that. But in the end, it didn't matter because it led to season four. He's a member of the press. Yeah, absolutely. Exactly. Absolutely. And we'll leave it at that. But in the end, it didn't matter because what happens? Deflate Gate happens, pissed the Patriots off. They beat the Seahawks.

A year goes by. Then Brady gets suspended for four games. What happens at the end of that season of the four-game suspension? Patriots complete the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history. So it worked out in the end. But, yeah, the Dynasty thing, it is a lot of the scandals. I know after Spygate, it goes right to Hernandez. People are saying a lot of things about Bill Belichick in the Hernandez situation.

A lot of it is absolute blasphemy. But again, that is just something like Bill said. The drugs go into some people's brains, and then they come out stepped on with different shit in it. You're talking about people's narratives and angles and their thoughts of things and how people are looking for affirmation whenever they're watching something or learning something, even if they're presented facts that go against their thoughts completely. There is quite a—do you think it's always been this way?

Probably. Has to be. Matt Tyshmint got accepted to Harvard, chose to go to Iowa to play baseball. I would assume people always were like, this is my opinions forever, no matter what I learn. And then now we just know about it because social media. Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. And I mean, people don't change.

You know, like you say that you can, but like the first thoughts that you have, like unless someone has a very, very convincing argument and you're at a time where your brain is still developing. Like, what you have locked in your head is staying locked in your head, and no one is ever changing your opinion. It's wild, too, because we obviously end up in crosshairs at this sometimes because the first impression of us could be exactly how it should be. What is that? Get that.

And then, boom, some of those people, you know, just go on for the rest of their lives, what I'm realizing to hate, even though things that they say, just not true. Like, I don't think true is true at all. And it's just like, you show like evidence and be like, it's not even worth that. People won't even change their opinion, but I don't think that's different. I think it's always been this way. Cause I think we get scared that it's worse than it's ever been. I don't think that's the case.

I think now we just know that is the worst thing ever been. But we could also say like, Hey, you're allowed to change your mind whenever new details kind of emerge, which another reason why I'm excited to watch that Dynasty thing. I've enjoyed it, but again, I'm not a Patriots fan. So it is just like as an NFL fan, it's a good watch. I think it is. I can understand why Conor's pissed because they call it the dynasty.

So if you're a Patriots fan, you're going in expecting to have them really comb over everything, kind of like the last dance and get really inside looks at the dynasty. But they don't do that. It is kind of just the, at least what I've watched so far, it's going to go through the whole 20 years. It's not going to be a super deep dive on any of the success, really, because oftentimes the salacious headlines and the stuff

that's what people want to hear about. All the people that signed up to be in it, I feel like. When I saw Bill Burrows, I was like, here we go. Did you hear what he just said to us for, what, 40 minutes? 30 minutes there, straight. It was just like, greatest decade, greatest of the decade, back-to-back decades.

A dynasty is like three and four years. Was he saying greatest of the decade back-to-back is better than dynasty? Well, and it didn't make sense because the Patriots and the Chiefs have won three and four years. Yeah, and they're on back-to-back right now. Yeah, so wouldn't those be considered the same as the Yankees in the 90s? I was thinking of all these things, but I mean... But all of his team in the decades are considered dynasties by everyone else. Like Steelers, Cowboys, Niners.

So he's a tough judge. Well, clearly. Yeah, of course. It's Bill Burr. Right. That was one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys, Tony Diggs.

Joining us now live from Manatee in Ohio. You know, we haven't heard his thoughts about Russell Wilson. He's now added to the free agency list with the biggest dead cap in the history of the NFL towards the Denver Broncos the next two years. $35.4 million will be charged against their salary cap measure.

And then $49.6 million the following season. They won't be able to use that. That'll be deducted from the salary cap that everybody else has. Although the salary cap is climbing rapidly. This salary cap is higher than it's ever been, and it just made the biggest jump that it's ever made in the quickest amount of time that it's ever made.

And they're charging $120 million for one game to Amazon right now, the NFL is. So I think that salary cap's only going to continue to grow, which is potentially what the Denver Broncos are thinking. We'll eat that money. We'll still be able to make a team. We shall see. Joining us now is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup winner,

the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, A.J. Hall. A.J., pretty crazy shit going on with Russell Wilson, bub. Yeah, it is. I mean, I glossed over the Bill Burr suicide by cop comment early on in the conversation. That was amazing.

How he can tie things together just blows my mind. That dude's an absolute genius. Yeah, he gets going there real quick. And then by the end, you've got a barrage of Bevy. I don't even know where to begin. I don't even know where. So many things he said had truth. But there is an opposite side as well well which is what this is sports world so i know that everybody was attacking me you know before for not knowing the sure you know

so i didn't get a chance to check you know any of the things that no but i think even if i did there was a check coming right back rempy rempy was coming yeah right back you're right genius brilliant passionate i can't wait to see the stand-up set. He said he's swinging a hot bat right now. Excited for that in Indianapolis this weekend. But, yeah, let's gloss over the Bill Burr conversation, although it will be referenced probably for the next month or so on this particular program, if I had to guess. Russell Wilson now could potentially get a $1.15 million salary cap hit

next year for another team. Be their starting quarterback. Compete for a job, I guess people are saying. might happen in certain places which okay yeah probably i guess especially with the salary cap hit only being 1.15 million you can get cut too at that particular price from another team but like this is a perfect setup for a lot of teams that potentially need a quarterback that don't have to spend money on the quarterback position aj i mean think about it why would you like think how many teams would have to kick the tires as they say on russell wilson yeah you don't have to spend money on the quarterback position, AJ. I mean, think about it. Why would you, like, think how many teams would have to kick the tires, as they say, on Russell Wilson? Yeah, you don't want to pay the guy $40 or $50 million for a year,

but if you can pay slightly over $1 million for Russell Wilson, and you look at his stats and everything, like, you can see he played pretty well at times last year and then dumped the rest of it on the Broncos. Why would you not bring this guy? Yeah, and seemingly you would think Russell Wilson would also want to dump the rest of it on the Broncos, why would you not bring this guy? Seemingly, you would think Russell Wilson would also want to dump the rest of it on the Broncos with how everything went, even though they're paying him so much money.

Remember how big that deal was that he signed with the Denver Broncos? He didn't even start the deal. They didn't need to, though. They didn't have to do it. He hadn't even started the extension that they negotiated, but he hadn't even stepped foot on their field yet. No.

Oh, no, no. They hadn't even seen him in a jersey. They didn't even give him his office yet. And he wears his jersey a lot, so it was hard not to see him in the jersey. We did see him wear his jersey come into training camp, which once again, if he was winning, cool. Yeah, right. You lose, it goes the other way.

Done it, AJ. It's at the beginning. Yeah, it does. If you're winning, you can pretty much do whatever you want. want but you lose that's the second they're going to jump on everything you're doing think about kevin o'connell and the vikings and i mentioned this in the first hour and this might be me doing exactly what bill burr just talked about people doing just saying like boom this is how this is supposed to work out if florio who's going to join us in five minutes of pro football talk tells us about the k Cousins moving to Atlanta thing a little bit

more as opposed to just a tweet that we all saw but if Kirk Cousins is not returning to Minnesota seemingly okay I think everybody in Minnesota wants Kirk Cousins back so I'm not I'm not ruling that out I'm living in a world where Kirk Cousins is gone would that not be you know Addison Justin Jefferson Kevin O'Connell's offense is wide open they're going to pay wide receiver big money so you can't really pay a quarterback that has seemingly been the trend with the salary cap but where the salary cap's heading who knows what the trends are going to be going forward but it's like that seems like a match made in heaven now will that be the case i don't know but what are your thoughts on that that feels like that makes too much sense almost

it does feel like it makes too much sense, but I'm curious as to how many offers is Russ going to have? I feel like he's going to have some options. At this price tag, if you only have to pay him a little over a million dollars, now is Russ going to try to say hey, no, I want more than league minimum on top of the 39 or whatever I'm getting from Denver? So the whole

thought of teams competing with each other, so like if you have three people at the offering table, you see what's going to happen here. Offer, this one, sets the table now for this one, and then this one, and then you get $230 million guaranteed for Deshaun Watson and Cleveland. Because there's a lot of teams that are in this entire thing.

But if everybody's only in it because of the cap on it, I do wonder how that whole thing will go. I wonder what the number will become. Michael Lombardi referenced last hour, maybe it'll be incentive-based, but he doesn't know if incentive-based money is towards money earned, which he thinks it is against money earned. So that would take money off the hook for the Denver Broncos,

which he doesn't think that any team would want to do. And we don't know if Russell Wilson would want to do, but we assume he wouldn't want to do that as well. What do you have? I just went through all 32 teams, and the quarterback needy teams I think that everyone is looking at is definitely Minnesota, one. Atlanta, two, depending

on if Kirk goes there. But if Kirk doesn't go there, could it be Atlanta, the Steelers, the Raiders, Washington and New England? if he's looking because he's a free agent so he can pick so he's he's he's gonna want to start right or he's gonna want to go to a place where he can compete to start at least he's not going to go to any of these other teams where like the giants maybe but it feels like it feels like those are probably the suitors right well even you got to think like let's say the Bucs obviously are all in on Baker.

Does this not change it maybe just a little bit? Like, hey, yes, we love Baker, but we probably do have to pay him $25 to $30 million. That's a good point. Do we even consider, like, hey, let's go talk to Russ and see. With Mike Evans back. With Mike Evans. It gives you more money. What's Mike Evans getting? $35 million guaranteed?

Yep. Over two years. $50 million? Yep. Hey, congrats, Mike. Hell of a deal. Hell of a deal. Congrats, Mike. $50 million? Yep. Hey, congrats, Mike. Hell of a deal. Earned it, pal, and everybody was hoping this would be the case because there's not a lot of teams that just have

a relationship with a star player like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have with Mike Evans, who just gets 1,000 yards, and then, yeah, I'll sign another one, gets 1,000 yards, yeah, come back, do the same thing, come back, do the same thing through different generations of the team's

history. So I'm happy they got that done, but that's a good weapon to entice people to want to go. You know, and let alone the other weapons they have down there. We got some breaking news. Antoine Winfield Jr. has been tagged, and Matabuke Matabuke? Matabuke.

And Matabuke has been franchise tagged by the Baltimore Ravens. Teams have until 4 p.m. Eastern today to lay the franchise tag hammer on you. I've been franchise tagged before. AJ, you ever get franchise tagged? I was never tagged, no. Were you tagged once or twice? Once, just once.

Once time. Adam Vinatieri was tagged, I think, two or three times. Damn. Straight, yeah. It's a good move on kicker punter. Good move on kicker punter. Save money? Definitely, especially if it's guaranteed money. Yeah, well, not only is it guaranteed, I'm not saying

definitely good. As soon as I found out I was going to be a millionaire guaranteed in the next 12 months, I said, I'll sign it. I will sign it, but the kicker punter one is very low, you see that? Yeah. So, like, if you're really good in the market, you know, because that's the top five average, I think, of salaries in the NFL at your position. Not counting bonuses, though.

So, like, bonus money is a big amount of money in the kicker punter stuff. So, like, it's an average of the top five salary, but it's nowhere near what the average per year is for a lot of the top guys. Where is that now? What are the top guys average per year right now, kicker, punter? Oh, that's a great question. Matt Gay reset it last year. I thought he got four years. Yeah, four years, 23 or something. Yeah, and I forget what Tucker.

Tucker just signed something. Some pretty good, like, good, good. I'm saying pretty good in comparison to the rest of the NFL, but it's like kicker, punter one. If you have somebody that is potentially going to get a real contract, it's like the franchise tag is a smart play. A lot of people announce that the Colts haven't used the franchise tag since they franchise tagged me or whatever. And then all of a sudden the internet just loads up with some people, not all people saying like, why would you ever franchise tag the punter kicker? It's like, probably saves them, like, $15 million guaranteed. Probably $17 million guaranteed right now. And it's like, yeah, I got to go do it another year. Like, let's see. And with the kicker punter position, it's like, literally easy come easy.

Game by game. Game by game situation. It doesn't matter who you are, how long you've been around. Like, you have a couple bad games as a kicker punter. Like, good luck. They're going to be bringing in tryout guys every single day on you. Which is a whole other conversation about whenever I got my contract, I'm like, I'm not looking for the highest amount of money.

I want to be able to have a two-game. Because if you're expensive, and if you don't have a great season, if you're seasoned, you're not the guy. It's like, easy, salary cap. Let's get rid of that guy. So it's like a fun game of being like, let's, but let's not. Temper. Let's not make too much noise here.

Okay, let's do it. Let's make sure we're all okay. I need to get the family, friends. I need to live good. But like also, let's not raise any alarms, especially with what's going on right now. With the person, you know, and good guy. Oh, yeah. Good guy. Good guy, by the way. That's right. That happened with the person you know and uh good guy oh yeah good guy good guy by the way that's right that happened at the combine it did the man that i'm about to introduce will be happy to hear this actually the founder of pro football talk a man who is

one of the most business business savvy humans in the history of sports media a west virginia mountaineer a paisano, an author. Ladies and gentlemen, Mike Florio. Yay, Mike Florio! Paisan! What's up, guys? Paisan, I got good news. Me and Ryan Grigson talked at the combine.

Good conversation. Very good conversation. I remember you hoping that we would have chatted years ago i want to let you know what happened and uh it was cool it was actually a cool moment for me in the combine and i don't know how he i'd assume he probably thinks the same thing so it's good stuff florio it's always good to bury the hatchet it's always good to mend fences it's always good to move forward as friends it's better to be friends than enemies. He's still jacked. He's still absolutely jacked. Had a good fade.

Who's he working for? Vikings. He's working for the Vikings. It was good. It was really good. And I think we both actually, there was actual talk. It wasn't fluff. It was like, ha, ha, ha, ha. Okay, yeah. Like that type of thing.

It was good. So Ryan, can't wait to have a beer with you buddy there you go yeah can't wait to have a beer with you florio now let's talk about that whole thing about moving on you know uh you've moved on in the sports media world so often that i think people forget that you've been around a very long time and you happen to potentially know a lot of people whenever you're breaking news on the internet, especially in this modern day, there's a lot of people that go, what the hell does this guy know? Yeah, right.

He doesn't know. Right. They forget that although you're Italian and you age wonderfully, you have been doing this a very long time. The big news that I saw this reaction to was whenever you put out a tweet, and I assume a post on profootballtalk.com

or mbcsports.com, not Profootball Talk. We're picking up very credible indications that Kirk Cousins is planning a potential move of his family from Minnesota to Atlanta. Obviously, that is massive because Kirk Cousins, free agent quarterback, Atlanta potentially looking for a quarterback, need a quarterback. So everybody puts one or two things together. Kirk Cousins got Atlanta Falcons. They're going to pay him very good money.

Now, we are acting as if what you were saying, because we know you very well, and we acknowledge your being in the – we acknowledge the Mike Florio information and connection in this entire thing. Is this real? How real is this? And what does that mean whenever you put that tweet out because i'm just i'm putting russell wilson in minnesota now because kirk is in atlanta that's what happens whenever one of those tweets take place you need to know that with a rambunctious irish 0.01 italian man who has a daily show who follows

along with your twitter account pal and i'm not the only one and look i'll peel back the curtain a little bit when you do this 23 years you get to know a lot of people both in and out of the business we get emails we get tips we get clues we get things all the time and a lot of times what happens is you get a tip from somebody and it seems credible you run it by somebody you know in an effort to see whether or not it's real or whether or not it's BS, and you start to build a sense and an indication. And what we wrote yesterday, and I spoke a little bit more about it on our morning show, PFT Live. I mean, you got things coming back to me that I confirm from people who would know

that there's an effort to look for maybe schools for the kids, house for the family, up to and including. I haven't confirmed this part yet, but it's just one of those little things that makes sense. You know, talking to the guy who currently wears number eight, Kyle Pitts, about getting number eight for any of this stuff. So when you're hearing this, you're just hearing this from people that are in the know at the time. Here's what happens. In this case, in this case, and I got to be careful because I can't disclose names, but you have very loyal readers of the site who, when they find something out, however they find it out, they want to share it with you. So then you get it and you vet it through people who know. And then the end result is, holy shit, that tip was right.

Holy crap, this stuff is happening. And so- And that's why you're hated. And that's why some people get very mad when Florio potentially gets something. I mean, look, I think people get mad because they don't want bad news about their team. So there's a knee-jerk reaction

to dismiss anything that you don't want to hear. What a shock in this day and age. We hear something we don't want to hear, and we say it's bullshit. We were just talking about this with Bill Burr. Bill Burr agrees with you, by the way. The whole conversation. So we just, it's our own way of staying in our silo. We stay in our teepee. We stay with our tribe. We just say

and do whatever we believe, and when we hear something that goes against it, they're full of shit. It's fake news. It's baloney. It's whatever. So I get it. I understand it.

But sometimes it pisses me off because it's like, if I was going to make stuff up, it'd be a hell of a lot more interesting than the stuff that you say. Trust me. It'd be a hell of a lot more interesting. You're a good author.

We do. Father of mine, obviously available right now. Well done. Incredible book. $3.99 now for the e-book. Let's go. Hey, well done by you too.

Good promo. We got some, as you would say, up to something with maybe a little movie. Oh! A little TV show. These came away.

Up to something season, baby. Now, you know, so let me tell you how up to something season works. Okay? You don't say what it is. Oh. Well, shit.

You know, it's like, I'm learning. I'm up to something. But when you learning i'm up to something but when you say i'm up to something what you're initially up to might evolve yeah you know so whenever you go movie what if it's a series now you know it could be neither likely neither but at least you're in the game a little bit but you you learn a lot about it it's not an easy game but i'm learning a little about but you're definitely up to something. You're up to something, which we appreciate.

So let's talk about potential other things that could take place, and you can debunk if it is a detractor to the Kirk Cousins to Atlanta thing. Is there a chance, though, that maybe he has multiple suitors currently, and he's checking other cities' places, too, to kind of see what it would cost to live there, what the schooling would look like. Like, is there a chance he is potentially looking into it, but not necessarily the conclusion that I jumped to immediately upon reading your tweet? Like, that means he's going to Atlanta.

Like, have you had any other conversations with people about, like, Atlanta's interesting, Kirk? And what do you sense that is? Because from outside looking in, would make sense, seemingly, for both parties. And remember when he was a free agent in 2018, six years younger and completely healthy. There were two teams, the Vikings and the Jets. So it's not like there was a land rush the last time Kirk Cousins was a free agent. Now that he's going to be available again, and there's nothing the Vikings can do to stop it, they can't tag him today, the contract is constructed, he is going to the market. I believe, and again, I got to be careful about stuff that's off the record, on the record,

and I don't want to burn any relationships, but I'll tell you this. Friday before the Super Bowl, Kirk Cousins was on PFT Live. Our set was right next to yours at Radio Row. After we interviewed Kirk Cousins and KJ Osborne together, and you talk to people ahead of time, you talk to people afterward. My wife's talking to Julie Cousins, Mrs. Cousins, and I'm hanging around for some of the conversation, and I pick some things up in that conversation. And I come away from all of it thinking it's Minnesota or it's Atlanta. She's from the area. Her parents live there. It's Minnesota or Atlanta. And I got the sense, and I don't think I'm talking out of school here. I got the sense that maybe there was a little frustration that,

you know, the Vikings have had a long time to try to work out a deal with Kirk. And you get to a certain point where you have to run and find out and you let it go too far down the tracks. And even if the Vikings will say, oh, oh, wait, the Falcons are paying you that will match it. There's a chance they're going to say, sorry, had your chance. They're showing us love, right? Interesting. You're just showing a begrudging willingness to match what we were able to get from somebody who really wants us. So we're going to go to the place where we think they really want us. They're risking that. The Vikings are risking that in not getting this done when they had the exclusive ability to do it. Pretty soon they don't. I can understand where you're coming from. And I think from watching quarterback,

Kirk loves Minnesota. And from the way it's being talked about from the Minnesota Vikings side, they would love to have Kirk Cousins back as well. And you bring up Mrs. Cousins. She's cool. Hey, we got a chance to chat with her at that quarterback premiere for Netflix. Oh, yeah. You remember, we just stumbled into that. I have no idea how we ended up at that. Just so happened to be at the right place. You're like, hey, do you want to go do this? Yep.

Yeah, kind of do. Walked in there. Mahomes, Kelsey. It's quarterback premiere at Netflix. It was the dumbest thing. Blue carpet. Was it a blue carpet? Yeah, it was something like that.

Something like that. Change up. 70, 80 milligrams. Oh, it Change up. 70, 80 milligrams. Oh, it was hilarious. 70, 80 milligrams. Had no idea that I was going to this thing. Yep. And then found out it's happening.

It's like, well, we've already come too far. A million photographers there. We are. We are all the way gone. But got a chance to chat with Mrs. Cousins. Georgia Bulldog. Yep. You say coming down the tracks there i mean that remind me of the

call of the dogs you know what i mean but it's like georgia that is a tie i completely forgot about that being a family situation potentially down there for kirk which even more so leads to me wondering then do you think minnesota in for russell wilson on this entire thing because he's only going to cost 1.1 whatever the the veteran minimum is with Denver Broncos paying the other 39 and a half million dollar tab or what are you thinking for that from your conversations around the world cities uh look the grapevine I heard you talking about it earlier our instincts are completely aligned on this because I firmly believe and we asked Kevin O'Connell this when he was on PFT Live with us from the Scouting Combine last week, do

you want Kirk Cousins? Unequivocally, unconditionally, do you want him? And he said, yes, I want him. The question is, do others in the organization feel the same way? Have they applied a number to Kirk Cousins and they're content to sit back and see whether or not he takes it? And if he doesn't, they'll move on to plan B. And this is where it becomes interesting for the front office and ownership, Pat,

and guys, because if one plane is taken off, you better be damn sure another plane is landing. You've got to get this just right. So, okay, Kirk's going to leave. And, yeah, Russell Wilson for $1.21 million is the number. There it is. If he's truly willing to do this, and I think he would be because he's making $39 million either way, stick the Broncos with the bulk of it.

Take a low cash and cap number to let your other team get help and put it around you. The one key is this, and I heard you talking about this too. He's going to need to know wherever he goes, he's the guy. He's not competing with Kenny Pickett in Pittsburgh. He's not at risk of getting benched because there's only 1.21 million. He's the guy all year. If the Vikings make that commitment to him, you're our guy all year, I think that that makes a lot of sense. And then you've got to ask yourself, dollar for dollar, that's the original analytics in football.

Personnel, how much does it cost for this guy? How much does it cost for this guy? Dollar for dollar, what's a better value? Wilson is younger than Cousins. Wilson isn't coming off of a torn Achilles tendon. And for 1.21 versus 45 or whatever, it's not that hard to make the argument that they should just say, oh, well, Kirk went to Atlanta. We're going to do a year with Russell Wilson, maybe draft a guy and develop him and see what happens. Well if everything that we know russell wilson to be in every situation whether we like the way it out the outcome of it is or not like he'd be a perfect

guy for a young guy to come in under and he understands that that 1.21 million is not what his future looks like either so it's uh it seems like everybody would be aligned they have to pay justin jefferson which is a massive piece of it but that's uh that's a really interesting wrinkle that has kind of hit this free agency out of nowhere yesterday. Speaking of hitting out of nowhere, you put a tweet out about the NFC North. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Flory, I was going to say, there's no point of talking about the Vikings

because you told us that you sat down with Caleb Williams for 10 minutes and that the Vikings, the NFC Championship Lions, and the Green Bay Packers, who turn it around in a year with the third worst dead cap in NFL history, are screwed no matter what because of Caleb. What did he kind of do to impress you this much to say things of that nature? And did the other QBs just kind of go in there and poop all over themselves and you don't like them as much? Or did you get that impression around from a few guys, not just Caleb?

Yeah, look, we had a great week last week. And one of the things Chris Sims and I came away with was a conclusion that of all the years we've gone there to talk to prospects and also come home with some free stuff. I mean, I can be bought this new cool stuff, the combine. It's great. I've been wearing it all week. It's getting a little stinky. So that's right. And you know the thing about, you know, the best thing about selling out, a little stinky. Sellout. That's right. You know the best thing about sellout? It works. It's good. It's nice. It's nice to sellout.

As you know. As you know well. Whoa. What? You're not getting paid? You're doing this for free? True. Tell us about Caleb. You made 10 million. This year though the personalities of the kids

we talked to off the charts. And the thing about Caleb Williams that came across to us. Now, Sims has already done the film workup, and I trust his evaluation of quarterbacks. He gets it right far more often than not. And he was right about Patrick Mahomes when he ended up going 10th overall. He was saying this guy's the guy. He was right about C.J. Stroud last year when everyone was on Bryce Young. But with Caleb Williams, OK, Sims says he's got it. He can make all the throws. He can do things off schedule. So what kind of a guy is he? And, you know, the thing about USC, and this is where schools can do a disservice to players,

don't protect these guys. Let people get to know them. There was a big unknown about who Caleb Williams is. And in that 10 minutes, you know, you get a sense if somebody gets it or somebody doesn't get it. And this is a guy who is committed to the craft. He's looking for ways to get better. He's already thinking about mechanics and who to study and how to improve and how Tom Brady evolved as a quarterback over the years and how other great quarterbacks have changed over the years and what he's going to have to do to become the best quarterback possible.

So if you take the God-given ability, which is at the very top, and you throw on top of it just a brain and a heart that is willing and determined to get the most out of what he has. Yeah, that's good news for the Bears if they don't screw it up around him, and it's bad news for the teams in the division. Okay, and the Lions, obviously, you know. Jordan Love's pretty good, too. And the Packers went into Dallas, and, you know.

That's a reason for Kirk Cousins to go to Atlanta. I'd rather go to the NFC South and stay in the NFC North right now. Well, Kirk Cousins might leave because Caleb Williams is coming to town. I mean, there is a chance that he is doing that. I mean, if he's reading your potential tweet. But I would like to say that going into Combine Week, and to your point, I think it's very valid of like, stop protecting these guys.

Let these guys kind of showcase who they are. Not everybody, obviously, especially at that age and everything that's going on. But like from what we've learned about Caleb and from my conversations at Combine about him as well. And I just assume like this guy's not a football guy, right? Like that's kind of you see him like out and about. Then obviously there's all this other stuff. And then his team is talking for him already. And then he wants a percentage of an NFL team.

It's like league's been around 100 plus years, bud. Like this guy needs to relax. And it's like none of that was him, though. That was all people either around him kind of that sources are taking for their word or directly around him. And then whenever people say equipment managers love him, trainers love him, teammates love him. Lincoln Riley came on, loved him. Trainers love him. Teammates love him. Lincoln Riley came on, loved him. Like, everything, everybody that's around him on a day-to-day basis are like, this guy's a good guy.

And here in Indianapolis, Flory, I don't know if you know this, he wanted to stop by Robert Mathis-Damure run this academy called Gridiron Gang for underprivileged kids here in Indianapolis to get pro-camp training. It happens every single day of the week here. He stopped by, spoke to the the dude worked out with the kids like he shook everybody's hand

and it's like everything I've learned through combine week and it's crazy and I do change my opinion on things whenever I hear different stuff especially from people I respect it's like Caleb's a guy like Caleb is he's the guy and he's much different than what you think and I'm excited to learn more about him I think as we go on here. That's a tough division, though. Real tough. We've seen guys not do well in the NFL because of situations that happen around them. Herbert.

So it's like, I hope he gets to figure it out. I hope we get to experience it all. But everybody seemingly loves that dude, and that was a nice surprise coming out of this particular combine. I assume you feel the same way. We went into the week thinking that the right move for the Bears is keep Justin Fields, figure out what his ceiling is going to be, trade that number one overall pick for some gigantic haul like they did last year.

The reason they have the first overall pick this year is because of what they got last year when they traded the number one overall pick to the Panthers. I'm a firm believer in getting as many lottery tickets as possible for the draft. Don't put all your eggs in one basket unless you're damn sure the guy's going to be great. That was before the week. Then the Bears brass started talking and it's like, you know, it sounds like they're moving on from Justin Fields. And then we met Caleb Williams and I went into a blank slate. I didn't know what to expect, good, bad or otherwise. And he just, he, he, he convinced me he gets it. Good kid. Will be a good natural leader. And exactly what the Bears need when you consider they have not had a franchise quarterback.

All due respect to Jim McMahon and Jake Cutler, but they haven't had a true franchise quarterback since Sid freaking Luckman. Grossman. Yeah, I saw your tweet there. Sid Luckman was a good pull. You had to feel good while you were typing that one up. That one had to feel like, yeah, yeah, that's a home run there. I appreciate the fact that Caleb kind of did that 180 for everybody. Genuinely. Good luck to the Bears.

And the Bears wish Justin Fields a happy birthday today on social media. So, hold the horses! Hold the horses on the rumors! Go ahead, AJ. Mike, what about the Tampa Bay Bucs and Baker Mayfield? What do you see them doing with him, and what could the numbers possibly look like? And also, we were talking earlier in the show, would they take a look at Russell Wilson trying to bring him in down there? They seem to really want Baker Mayfield back, and he seems to really want to come back. And

yesterday when the Bucs did a deal to keep Mike Evans around, one of my first thoughts was Evans must know that Mayfield's going to be sticking around because he's not going to sign up for the next two years of his career not knowing who the quarterback's going to be and just taking a chance. So I think that Mayfield is going to stay in Tampa. Coming out of the combine, and we know it's tampering central, the legal tampering period doesn't start until next Monday at noon Eastern, but last week is when all the agents are in town, all the teams are in town. The meetings happen face-to-face.

There's no way that anybody can be proven to have tampered unless somebody blabs. Baker Mayfield's agents know what's out there. They know what's not out there. And just like Mike Evans decided after his agent had a chance to talk to anyone and everyone who might be interested last week to stay put, I think Mayfield's going to stay put. The question is the number. What does it start with? Does it start with a three? Does it start with a four? I think it lands in the 30s per year. Top of the market's 55 and it's going to go to 60. So I think it's going to be somewhere between 30 and 40, maybe 35-ish. It's one of those things where we'll see

the original number and there'll be bullshit in it and then we've got to break it down and see what it really is, just like with Evan's contract. But I think it's going to be somewhere between 30 and 40 and that's a good deal for a guy who we all thought was done a year ago. Hey, how come that happens and how come that is just standard operating procedure where, you know what, we're going to report a contract,

it's definitely going to be wrong, and then we'll find out later. That's been just like since the beginning of the NFL and it's still happening today, seemingly. Why? agent sends the group text to all of the folks who are clamoring to be the first ones to win, you know, the thumb race to Twitter with the details, the reporters don't ask questions. They don't push back because you know what happens if you start pushing back? I found out you don't get the text anymore. When you say, oh, wait a minute, wait a minute. You said, wait, you said 40 million guaranteed. Is that fully guaranteed signing? Or is that like guaranteed for injury? And what is it, Vest it vast you start asking those questions you're not on the text chain anymore i'm not on the text

chain anymore so you know what text chain i am on once the number comes out it's been pumped up by the agent who wants to print off those posts on x and laminate them and use them to recruit their next wave of clients i get the real contract and i say, okay, yesterday we all were told $52 million for two years for Evans, $26 million a year. Oh, wait, it's $41 million over two years, $20.5 million. Still $11 million in incentives, but you've got to earn that. The base value is $11 million less over two years than what we were told yesterday. Wait, $35 million guaranteed? Over and over and over again.

$35 million guaranteed? What's the guarantee? $29 million guaranteed at signing, $35 million guaranteed? Over and over and over again. $35 million guaranteed? What's the guarantee? $29 million guaranteed at signing, $6 million extra for injury. They could get out of it for one year, $29 million, with an offset for the $6 million he's due to make next year.

If they cut him after one year, they owe him $6 million, and they'd get an offset for whatever he'd make anywhere else. How about Denver's dead cap? $85 million. He said, yup. Yeah, because the salary cap's only going yodely, yodely, yodely.

They just charged Amazon $120 million for one game. One game. The salary cap is only going to keep climbing. Is that what they're all betting, you think? Is that what the Denver Broncos are thinking? Well, absolutely. And look, this comes down to, I think, one of Sean Payton's core beliefs. If you make a mistake, and I think this applies to anything,

if you make a mistake, you can either double down and make it worse, or you can admit the mistake and move on. And that's why they're cutting Russell Wilson. And this was the whole conversation that happened. It gets twisted around a little bit, depending upon who you listen to. They went to Russell Wilson last year and said, we want to move the day that your 2025 salary of $37 million becomes fully guaranteed from March 17 of 2024. Because if he were to come out of last season with an injury, and he can't pass a physical by 12 days from now, that $37 million is gone, on top of the other $124 million he's already getting. So they wanted to move that vesting date. And that's when he said no, And that's when

it all went sideways. So from the Broncos perspective, are we going to throw another 37 million after 124 million that we don't think is getting us what we want? And yeah, it's going to be a big cap mess, but we don't have to write a check for another 37 million for next year once we've decided this isn't a franchise quarterback. It's that simple. And that's why they're taking that now. They're going to split it over two years. There's two different ways they can do it, but it is $85 million over the next two years. Yeah, I think it's like $35.6 or $49.4 or $35.4.

It's $35.4 and $49.6, or it's $53 and $32. There's an option bonus, and how they treat it depends on how much of a hit they take which year. It all makes sense, right? Yeah. Solid cap's definitely real, too. There's another team that you might know a little bit about that has some question marks. Go ahead, Tom Diggs.

Yeah, Florio, you are connected to the Pittsburgh area regionally. You're very, very close. I know you have your contacts there. You talked about Russell Wilson not wanting to compete with Kenny for a job. There's a rumor that Justin Fields' trade value is plummeting because there's not as many teams as they thought that would be up for it. Who do you think is going to be the day one starter, or who will they bring in to compete with Kenny?

Well, you know, at one point earlier in the offseason, Art Rooney II, the CEO of the team, made the comment about not ruling out the possibility of acquiring a veteran quarterback. Jerry Dulac of the Post-Gazette, and these guys that have been of the team, made the comment about not ruling out the possibility of acquiring a veteran quarterback. Jerry Dulac of the Post-Gazette and these guys that have been covering the team forever, they're embedded. They know what's going on. When he comes out and says they don't want a veteran quarterback who's coming to town with the desire to start, that's a red flag. And last week in Indianapolis, one of the things I picked up from talking to people this isn't some bit by the steelers and this fits with how they are they don't go out and make a big splash in free agency they try to groom the guys they have they get terry bradshaw five years to figure out

how to play quarterback in the nfl and it works so here they are less than two years removed from using a first round pick on kenny pickett they like what mason rudolph did he's due to become a free agent i think they're committed to Pickett versus Rudolph, and one of those two guys is going to be the starter week one. And any veteran they bring in would just be another guy to be part of that conversation but not a viable contender to start. And that's why I don't think Russ goes there, because he's going to want to go somewhere where they roll out the red carpet

or the blue carpet, as the case may be, and say you're our QB1 every week of the year. Good callback. That was the Netflix quarterback premiere where our QB1 every week of the year. Good callback. That was the Netflix quarterback premiere where I did not know the color of the carpet. Could have been blue. Could have been blue. It could have been purple. Yeah, it might have been green. It was on 70 to 80 milligrams at the time.

I mean, that is a tough thing to get dropped into the middle of. The Steelers situation, obviously very real. Mason Rudolph, hey, he won over the city up there, Florida. You saw that? They were chanting his damn name in this entire thing. Hey, I have a question for you that is not about the Steelers.

You're the perfect person to give us everything we need to know about this. Whenever we were on break, a certain NFL character had his day in court. Mm-hmm. And he said, yeah, I did it. a certain NFL character had his day in court. Oh. And

he said, yeah, I did it. Okay. Yeah. All right. Lock me up. Put me in jail. I robbed 11 banks. He owes a bunch of money back

to all these places. He's facing a stiff sentence. Yeah. Yeah. The 50. Talking about different states in this entire thing.

And it all came because Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, too electrifying in football. This asshole was willing to stick guns in people's faces to get the games. Do you know how long this particular wolf is going to be locked up in what we're looking at

in the future of Chiefsaholic? Have we ever had a situation like this in the past in the NFL that I don't recall? Because this is the biggest superfan story of all time in my eyes is that accurate if they don't make this into a movie like ASAFP right one of my favorite movies of all time is hell or high water and the premise is two brothers go rob banks to pay off the reverse mortgage and so they rob from the bank that holds a reverse mortgage. And, you know, this is like that storyline on crack. I mean, the guy's a super fan who wears a wolf suit for crying out loud. He's robbing banks dressed as the wolf. He's using the money to bet on like my homes to be the Super Bowl MVP. And yeah, he's looking at up to 50

years without parole. It all comes down to what there There's federal sentencing guidelines, and I don't remember how binding they are. There used to be a time where they were gospel. I think there's more play in the guidelines than there used to be, but he's looking at real time. The guy clipped off his ankle monitor and took off when he was on house arrest. That's not good either. So this is a sordid

but also compelling story, and we need to know the whole story. We need to know all about this guy. And hopefully one of these days we will. Yeah, we need a documentary. Why don't you put together a documentary, a pro football talk investigation. You know, that could be something on this guy.

Xavier Boudibar. Boudibar? Boudibar? Every time his lawyers spoke. Behind bars. Whoa. That was mean-spirited. That was mean-spirited. I'm sorry.

Sorry he robbed all his banks. That's why his lawyer coming out and being like all he asks is that guy's not real. Chief's kingdom. The lawyer or him? The lawyer. This guy. I believe Chiefs of Hock is more of a real person than this guy.

Hey, let's run this. This is Xavier Budabar's lawyer, Chief Zahalik's lawyer, after he said, yeah, I did it, to 11 armed robberies at banks around the country. From the beginning of this case, folks, the government has been blitzing. And Xavier's pocket was collapsing. Come on. But today, Xavier's pocket was collapsing. Come on. But today, Xavier stepped into the pressure.

Yeah, he did. He took responsibility for his actions. He stood up in court, humble and repentant, and admitted what he had done. and admitted what he had done. Now, if I know anything about Xavier, and if the Chief's Kingdom knows anything about Chief Zahalik, we know that he doesn't give up. We know that if he stumbled and he fell,

he didn't let his knee touch the ground. He didn't fall. fell, he didn't let his knee touch the ground. I did. Plus, he didn't fall. And that's because he's capable of doing a great thing. With a tie. And he knows that there's still hope. We still have a lot of work to do on his case, but Xavier wants everyone to know that he loves the Chief's Kingdom,

he loves Kansas City, and he hopes that you'll rally to his support. Okay. Thank you, and God his support okay thank you and god bless god bless you too so he said yeah i stuck guns in these people's faces but we should support this guy yeah you love them chiefs yeah that's a real human that guy shares your profession weren't you a lawyer well not anymore but yeah hey he kind of reminds me the guy wasn't it like the lawyer on always sunny that had the fake hands right the big hands the uncle somebody's uncle or something i can't remember we're gonna watch that again everybody's calling him mclovin obviously oh yeah all these puns all those puns you know but the the prosecutors did it too i saw quotes from the press release and they do the same thing like like folks i mean aren't we taking i mean this

is a serious thing what are we doing with all these puns? It's serious. He's showing up at a bank and putting guns in people's faces. It is serious. Thank you for pointing that out, Florian. That's like. People making jokes. Listen, I'm not going to bring us back to a time, okay, that did exist, but I'm going to. Yep.

Do you remember when the COVID announcements were just like, out two weeks, COVID, COVID. Nobody even said, hope you don't die. Out for two, like it got to a point where it was just like, well, I think he's not going to play Sunday. It wasn't even like, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, this is right. This is why we're, the reason why we're announcing this

is because this is a big deal. Kind of just got desensitized. Like, hey, hope they survive. And it turns out everybody out every professional athlete. Boy, now we can't not bring it up. Now is not the time to dive into that. But I'm just saying. It's the flu.

You're right, though, about this Chiefsaholic thing. We've been a part of this. We've been a part of this problem. We've been a part of this. Making him walk around as Chiefsaholic. Sure, yeah. I even put his ass up on the, he was on the Espy's. Yeah, that's right.

You talked about it. He was at the Espy's. Yeah, that's right. You talked about it. He was at the Espy's. His picture. So we're part of the problem. End of the day. We're talking guns and faces. I need to see Patrick Mahomes do a one-handed balance on sideline. I need Travis Kelsey.

He's missing the Taylor Swift era. Oh no. Could you imagine that wolf sprinting into that suite? Oh, my God. Like a bank robber he bought it. He would have got in there. Oh, he's watching in that cell just so. Xavier's like, yeah, there he is.

There he is, Mike. That's a live looking. Oh, no. That's him, Mike. Actual photo. No alterations whatsoever. This is journalism. Nobody wants to talk about it nobody

wants to talk about our journalism but that's what we're doing last question for you here paizon we appreciate you coming from a packer owner go ahead a tie yeah mike uh it seemed like uh like right after the season or a couple weeks ago that david bakhtiari all signs were basically pointing to him being cut and not being back and it was brian goodikens kind of he didn't explicitly say it, but kind of tiptoed around it. Whereas in years past, they've said, hey, we want him here. You know, he's a big part of this team, all that kind of stuff.

And then recently, I think yesterday, Aaron Rodgers is tagging him in Instagram posts. So people are kind of connecting the dots. Hey, if the Packers do cut this guy, it's pretty, seems like he's just going to end up being you know a jet they have offensive line needs what are you hearing about Bakhtiari what's the likelihood that he does get cut and is there any kind of timetable on that well you're wrong about Goody like I was I got to give Bakhtiari a lot of credit and look it frustrates fans when a guy gets a big contract

and then hardly ever plays afterward but it's good good for the player. That's why you get the contract when you do to protect you against the uncertainty of an injury that is going to keep you from ever earning that money. It hurts the Packers. It helps the player. And he deserved every penny of it. And the Packers took on the risk that he's going to get injured and he's not going to play much. And I think the Packers are pretty clearly at the point where they're ready to move on. And it is a little too obvious to connect the dots back to the Jets. And I think the Jets are going to be a little more careful about rounding up a bunch of guys who once played with Aaron Rodgers just because he once played with them. But Bakhtiari feels a need if he can play.

They got to bring him in. They got to do the full physical. They got to make sure he's ready to go. But if he's ready to go, why wouldn't you bring him in? They need the help. I don't think so. MetLife's going to have to get some grass. Yeah, absolutely.

They're getting grass. They're getting grass. Didn't you hear? They're getting grass for the World Cup. What's that? Where's that going? Only for the World Cup. What year is that? Well, but it's not going to be there for football, so it doesn't matter. For 26, for the World Cup. J.J. Watt brought up a good point. He said some of those fields that they're putting on top of these fields, though,

shh, crop. Also stink, right? Yeah. He brought that up where I don't think I even thought about that. There's some crop grass fields. Oh, yeah. You know, we've seen them. We've experienced them.

Chicago. But there has to be a right answer. We had a – what's the doctor's name? Alan Sills. Alan Sills. Dr. Alan Sills on the program. And I assume he knows you. You know, I assume you too.

Oh, he knows me well. Yeah, yeah. They all love me there. Yeah, and you're a professional. Shout out to 345 Park Avenue. They all love me. Hey, shout out. Shout out.

Dr. Alan Sills came on the program, and he said they're studying all the surfaces. And they're like, what they're potentially, he was alluding to, he didn't give us exacts, but he's like, we're trying to figure out what the best surface is for everybody. Different times a year, what surfaces are and what they become, different parts of the field, what they are, how they become. And he said some of the information they're getting back is like maybe some of the fake stuff is actually potentially the safest in some situations. It's like that's going to be a conversation that's never going to end. That's just like somehow some NFL conversations happen. Is that how you feel that one's going to go? Absolutely. And here's the reality. They can pull whatever statistic they want to support this

idea that it's just as safe to play on the fake stuff. Anybody that's played on grass and anybody that's ever tried to run, cut, survive on the fake stuff understands how the forces work and understand how hard it is to get out of bed the next day. The players want grass. But they're only going to get grass in every stadium. You're only going to force the owners like Jerry Jones and Stan Kroenke to retrofit their stadiums permanently with grass

if you go on strike when the next CBA expires. Don't say that, Florio! Florio! They're not going to go on strike for this. They won't. Come on. It's the only power the players have, though. Say that, Florio. What the hell? They're not going to go on strike for this. We need diplomatic change. Come on. Conversation.

It's the only power the players have, though. It's the only power the players have. Trying to kill football. That's the only way we can force a change, AJ, is to go on strike. And the league knows it won't. That's the great imbalance. The league will shut. We'll play.

The owners will shut the NFL down for a year. Scab. Scab. The players won't. QB dibs. Listen, I would like the players to get what they want as well, but this needs to be settled in a conversation. It's not going to be a strike.

There might be a lockout because the lockout's going to be the owners want to play 18 games, and if the players say no, they'll lock them out to get 18 games, but the players won't strike to get grass. Okay, well, there's so much that goes into it. We can't be losing anything. We need games, okay? And I was part of the lockout, and it was good for me Players won't strike to get grass. Okay. Well, there's so much that goes in. We can't be losing anything. None. We need games.

Okay. And I was part of the lockout, and it was good for me because I was in the middle of a substance abuse program. Sure. So that halted drug tests, eight of them a month. So that was a fun time. Clutch. That was a really good thing for me personally.

Every veteran that went through the lockout would say, yeah, let's do that every – let's do a lockout every single offseason. And then every young player just kind of got, you know, screwed. No money, no workout, no playbook, no nothing. So, like, the lockout, now that we have experience in a lockout, I think a lot of players are like, not bad, not bad at all. So I think there is. But hopefully we don't need that, Florio.

Hopefully there's optimism. You know, hopefully they can settle this. No, I'm just stating the realities of the bargaining imbalance. The owners when they want something, they will lock them out and they'll shut down the season for a whole year if they have to to get what they want. The players won't. And they know that. The owners know that.

So that's why we're not going to have all grass fields. That's why we're going to have 18 regular season games. Period. Nice. You nailed it. We went on a hard out right there. We're still live on YouTube and ESPN+. We just had a hard out there. I think you hit it. You're such a professional.

I had no idea. I didn't hear the music. Was I supposed to hear music? You knew there was music. Was it supposed to be a light flashing? No. I don't know. I just got lucky.

You hit it. Right there. Pro baseball talk. Yeah. Look out. Have you licensed that out? No, no, no. No, no. I'll. Pro baseball talking. Yeah. Look out. Big. Sorry. Have you licensed that out? No, no, no, no. No.

No. I'll do my own thing. I used to be a huge baseball fan. But when the Pirates lost to the Braves, 92 NLCS, Sid Bream scored from second. Barry Bond's not throwing him out. And I knew that team was going to disintegrate. Bond's going to be gone. Bonilla's going to be gone.

This guy's going to be gone. It's like, this team is going to suck for the next 20 years. And I was wrong. It's the next 30 years and counting. 50. We got Paul Skeens. Hey, we got a video of Paul Skeens throwing a fastball. Yeah.

And what they're saying about the sound that this baseball is making once it hits that catcher's mitt is something that might scare batters out of the box. This man actually might get white flag opt-out strikeouts because his fastball coming right down the pipe from that 6'7 body out of LSU is so fast and so devastating that when it hits some leather, sounds like a damn shotgun

is going off. It's the loudest sound in the history of baseball. And we got it. Keep the birds away. Don't fly by if you're a bird. Do you hear that? Yeah. Damn. I love that.

Can't wait for September when he pitches his first game. So he'll play for the Pirates this year? Is that how that works? Yeah. In September when they're out of it. It's not true. Paul Skeens. That's what, hey, no.

I said Paul Skeens, opening day starter, and I was told by the baseball people, no, it'll take a couple months. Well, you're wrong on a couple things, okay? One, he'll pitch before September, and they'll be out of it way before September. Okay. Stop. Enough with the baseball talk. So no matter what, the number one pick doesn't – in baseball –

We're talking Florio not passing. Okay. We need to remember that. You're right. Because he used to be in the baseball, and then 30 years bad where he just told us that. Hey, Mike. Best move I ever made. Yeah.

Best move I ever made. Amen. Football, not baseball, baby. Football is king. As we're reminded every time we see the ratings from any game that's on. Hey. Up and up. 200 million.

120 million Amazon paid for one game. That's one game. 200 million watched some of the Super Bowl. 200 million. Where were the 150 million that weren't watching? What the hell were they doing that day? That's what I don't understand. I often ask that question.

I'm not the only person that's ever said this, obviously, in the history of sports media. But it's like the people that don't like sports, what do they do? I mean, the people who aren't on the internet. It's like you think about the time before you had the phone. Yeah. And like internet and like apps and stuff like that like what did you do we lived you know and you just kind of get by and i assume the people that don't watch sports do that they live and just kind of get by but why why do they do that waiting for the searcher that show or whatever the hell the show

after the super bowl you know just kind of having parties for that it's a good show i checked it out it's good yeah did you yeah Because I changed the channel immediately. Who's on the field right now? It's not called The Searcher. The Searcher? It's not called The Searcher. Finder. Is this the Queen Latifah show? No, that's The Equalizer.

It's The Beekeeper. It's not The Beekeeper. It's a movie. Chief Saholic. That too. What's everybody talking about? What are you saying? Random one? I don't know where Chiefsaholic came from. All right.

Hey, we appreciate you, Mike. Keep killing it, pal. Thanks, guys. Appreciate you. Hey, let's make sure we're not leading anybody astray this free agency season. Okay. Okay, draft season, no bullshits.

No bullshits. Only truth shits. Whoa. We don't... Okay, because there is shit that is the truth, which is. There is true shit, yes. Do you get bogged down by that at all ever? Whenever it's just like potential bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit story?

Well, no, because I like it because then it gives me something to expose, right? I like it. It's an opportunity to say that's bullshit. Everything that guy said is bullshit. Thank you. The opening statement from the trial of the two Utes in My Cousin Vinny. Nice. Great.

Everything that guy said is bullshit. Sometimes that's all you need to say. Did you say two Utes? Two Utes. Vincent LaGuardia Gambino. Utes. Greatest lawyer ever. Utes.

That movie is surprisingly accurate. Holds up. Legal movies go surprisingly accurate. Holds up. Legal movies go surprisingly accurate. Holds up as well. Boy, bad eyes too. Oh, yeah. I mean, we need to get that fixed. I mean, think about how many times in history that that fool couldn't even fathom.

You're right. The Italians do a great job. That's really what the Italians do. And you're one of them. Ladies and gentlemen, Pro Football Talk founder, NBC Sports' Mike Florio. Hey, Florio! He's in the shit. Oh, he's in the shit.

He likes being in there, though, AJ. People got upset. I saw his tweet. People were pissed at him for which take? The Caleb Williams or which one? I saw him going back at people. The Caleb Williams one was like, Okay, Mike. Yeah, one of those. The Kirk Cousins to Atlanta one was like, Okay. Come on. Credibleirk cousins to atlanta one was like okay come on

credible i mean i know a lot of guys have condos and buckhead maybe kirk just wants an off-season spot yeah and their families from down there so maybe they're thinking about post football like maybe he's signing a two-year deal maybe with the vikings and he's thinking about retiring everywhere i mean there's maybe he is just snooping around in some places to see what it would look like if he was to go there, which I asked him about. There's a lot of things. But in his world, he's like, credible indications. Credible indications.

So in his mind, I think he believes that Kirk's going to Atlanta. And then once he started bringing up some things, he's like, oh, yeah, I do remember that from the Cousins family. Oh, yeah. And it's like, you look at Arthur Blank. He was ready to spend a bunch of money on the quarterback just a few years back on Deshaun Watson. It's like, Kirk Cousins proven. He's good. You know what you're getting whenever you get him in the building.

It's like, maybe it is Atlanta. Maybe Kirk Cousins does go to Atlanta Falcons. And, you know, Kirk go down there. Yeah. Doing the dirty bird. Kirk's doing the dirty bird. Yeah, man, that would be springing back. Him saying that Kirk reached out to find out about the number eight jersey,

that's very interesting to me. Who does he know? He couldn't clarify on that one. Huh? He couldn't clarify that one. Okay. Yeah, those are tips he gets in there. All right, we have some news that has happened around the NFL today.

Big news out of Seahawks. They are currently releasing Jamal Adams and Quandre Diggs. Diggs is a surprise. Seattle Seahawks looking for the future. Yeah, Jamal Adams, interesting how it's all gone, being released. Excited to see how that goes. Quandre Diggs also being released. This comes after, remember, Pete Carroll went into postseason meetings

with not football people and football people in the Seattle Seahawks brass. Laid out what he wanted the team to look like the year next year. He was told, your time's done, Paul. You can be a consultant if you want. New era up there in Seattle. A couple big-time cuts here on Franchise Tag Day. Speaking of Franchise Tag Day, there's been some other news that has happened around the NFL.

The Ravens have Franchise Tag de-tackle Justin Matabuke, which was expected. The Bucs have franchise-tagged safety Antoine Winfield Jr., which was expected. Shout-out to Ari Mirov here with the entire update. And also, it's heating up. It is. Big time. Turn on notifications for at my sports update. Texans re-sign tight end dalton schultz for three

years that's a big time win for the texans aim for dalton schultz remember dalton schultz moved out of dallas into houston becomes one of cj stroud's favorite targets in a historically great rookie season they bring him back three years 36 million panthers cut tight end hayden was he a baseball player yeah i couldn't find the strikes they said he threw like through really hard in the pirates organization too oddly enough and then a baseball player? Yeah, he couldn't find the strikes. They said he threw gas. In the Pirates organization too, oddly enough. And then as soon as he got in, he couldn't find the strikes. Yeah, he had big time. Like he'd throw it and it just could not hit the strikes.

Oh yeah, nowhere near it. AJ, could you fathom how frustrating that would be? Yeah. I was a pitcher as a kid growing up playing travel baseball. I've told you. It was either I was throwing a couple strikes or I was throwing no strikes. Like some days you have it, some days you don't. But either way, I was throwing hard. No question. Could you imagine being a guy, being great, getting all the way to the majors and then all of a sudden, for some reason,

ball leaving hand, can't find the spot that it has found your entire life, literally, until right now. OK, what do we got to do? Well, we're going to go play football. Becomes a monster tight end. He is now. Pretty nice. Yeah, yeah. Pretty, hey, good for Hayden Hart.

Pretty nice backup plan. Hayden Hart's a beast. We respect that. Jaguars cut safety. Rayshon Jenkins and cornerback Darius Williams. Lions have re-signed corner Emmanuel Mosley to a one-year deal. CJ GJ of the Lions is free agent. And once again, shout out to Ari Mirov.

We do appreciate him. The Jags also just tagged Josh Allen, DN Josh Allen, and the Bears tagged corner Jalen Johnson, which those were both expected. There's only one tag out there left that's expected. Colts got two hours left before franchise tag deadline. Everybody has been reporting that the Colts believe that they could get something done.

Maybe get something done. Sure. Maybe get something done. I bet. I bet that's what they're reporting. Have we heard a report from Pittman or what he thinks if they actually think that they'll be able to get a deal done? Florio, what did you say negative about? I'm not.

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I think Pittman deserves. What's the top? It's close to that. I think it's damn near $30 million. What's Justin Jefferson? It's close to that, yeah. Yeah, I think it's damn near 30. So what's Justin Jefferson going to get? 40, 35? 35. 35, 40?

Yeah. Okay, so yeah, I'd give Michael Pittman $30 million. Absolutely. Yeah, Tyreek is the highest at 30 average per year. That would be much more than Jonathan Taylor, and obviously that would be a big-time talking point in a lot of things. But as a Colts fan, the only motherfucker that shows up every week is Michael Pittman Jr.

This dude is a dog, bro. And he does the shit that you're— Oh, yeah. Tough catches across the middle. He is so good. He got folded against the Steelers. Clean hit. Why don't they get it done, then?

Why aren't they going to get it done? I think because the franchise tag is available. So he's competing against the franchise tag as opposed to the market right now, probably, in negotiation. Some teams are worried, though. Some teams are worried. They're not scared, but they sometimes are hesitant to pay a receiver to those giant top-end contracts, I feel.

Well, especially with how good the younger wide receivers are now, nowadays. Younger wide receivers are getting hit on more than they had in the past in like the third fourth round and i i think a lot of people feel this way seven on seven one-on-ones like that shit's real that is through high school through college like they know how to get open these guys know how to get open and you're gonna make contested catches because contested catches are like you just got mossed. Like, that's going viral. My little kid, my eight and six-year-old,

they want me to throw the ball all day, every day, and just moss each other. That's all they care about. Yeah, so catch radius has all of a sudden become huge. And it's like, what are quarterbacks like? Well, I just like a big catch radius. All these guys seem to have it at a young rate. Now, they're still going to be the high-end guys,

I think, at the wide receiver position. We talked about this the other day. But I think that middle class of wide receivers there, where it's like good route runner can, you know, I think they're going to get phased out. It's just going to be rookie, young guys, and then who's going to make it to this one, and then out, and then it's only going to be a certain percentage of guys.

And it's like that sucks, obviously, for this one, but the market is about to get very big for those that change. Like Justin Jefferson, that is a salary cap changer for good. And I think everybody's like, yep, makes sense. And it wouldn't always be like that. Russell Wilson. That'd be good jordan addison they they would be really good him versus kirk and as far as 1 million versus 40 million or whatever

it's going to be for kirk and you know coming off an acl or not an acl at achilles is a real thing and he's younger and you could in theory pay him a decent amount of money up front so instead of pushing it off you could give him some up front so that the later years you can add on. And we can't even say this enough. Kevin O'Connell, people just get open. Justin Jefferson, everybody's preparing for him. He had 180 yards in the first half of a couple different games. People are open.

So if you can throw the ball long, because some of it takes a little bit to develop, which Russell has proven to be able to do. You can move. But if you're accurate, and that's like Russell, I think people say is, he's not going to have to cook as much. Also the expectations.

He's not signing a $252 million contract. It's not like, hey, you need to go win two Super Bowls in your first four years. It's like, you're going to be making a million bucks. We have house money here. We have a lot of good weapons. I mean, who says no? It's a win-win.

They're going to be looking at houses on Lake Minnetonka. Oh, man. Team three. Ice skating in the winter on Lake Minnetonka. Oh, my. Yeah, they'll probably call up a Paul Owen Conono. He probably is a speed skater. I bet he is a speed skater.

It's part of his training, no question. Yeah, he can figure it out. Oh, yeah. Imagine the gear, the Team 3 gear he has on, too, with the sweet helmet. That's for like the aerobatic helmets. He might skate to practice. He's Mr. Unlimited, dude. Yeah, he's like the Netherlands over there in Amsterdam.

No shoeing. He's probably Iditarod, dog. Yeah, he's like the Netherlands over there in Amsterdam. Snowshoeing. He's probably Iditarod, dog racing, too, at the same time. We will get to that, certainly, because it's currently happening. But over there in Amsterdam and shit, I think they actually ice skate down. Oh, yeah. And they take off their ice skates and they go to work. Oh, yeah. That little river in the middle of the city.

That's a real deal. Yeah, there's a lot of bikes there. That's awesome. I saw that on me. They do it in Ottawa as well. Ottawa? Up in Canada. Could you imagine just... That'd be awesome.

I'd be sick. Unlace my boots here. With a suit on? Yeah, yeah. You got a suit on? Hang them up. That'd be sweet. That'd be awesome.

Could you imagine some asshole skating backwards? Yeah. For sure. There's all those guys. No question. AirPods in, you know. Yeah, uh-huh. Man.

Hockey helmet on with a visor, too, going to work. Yeah. Michael Scott, full pads. Helmet. Are you kidding me? Stick. Yeah, stick. Stick handling on the way to work.

Oh, my God. That would be a good time. That would be great. They set up some goals on the way, so you can shoot some here and there. Like that all-star whenever they were skating yeah yeah yeah oh i hit six blocks that's awesome there he is he looks like he's a natural skater though yeah he actually is yeah he played he's a good skater he played he was doing masters okay so yeah just looking at the picture it's like he doesn't look uncomfortable at all no no he actually can't the episode where

he's yeah he's unbelievable okay yeah he takes players. The hockey players are absurd on the ice because, you know, every four years we get to watch the Olympics. And boy, do we become arrogant fucks about sports we know nothing about. As we should. Remember when we learned about Nathan Chen? Oh, yeah.

It was like, we got the fucking guy. Sorry about it. Sorry about it. I remember. I remember. You were high on this guy. Dude, I saw a whole fucking remember You were high on this guy Dude I saw a whole fucking

60 minute special On this guy I'm like dog Yeah We got the one What happened He came back He did

He made us say our first one I mean stop You're talking about Living on the edge But then he won the next one right Yeah he did win the next one Yeah he He would end up

His story ended up being That he would He won gold Here we go Ladies and gentlemen We have our own Olympic sport here. It is between Ty Schmidt's butthole and his pants. That's a quick run. That's the fastest he's ever pushed me around.

There's not a lot of dicking around on the stage either. Those earpieces were out quicker than we've ever seen. That was abrupt. Ty is in a bad spot right now. Let's have a moment of silence for Ty and the toilet that is certainly about to be in battle. He's had a lot of good fights in there. Splattered that thing up and down. And need your wet wipes.

I think at this stage he has put his wet wipes in every single stall. Yeah. I'm not seeing. Because sometimes you're not just going his wet wipes in every single stall. Yep. From my scene. Because sometimes you're not just going to make it to the last stall. Yeah. Extra packs. And sometimes you're going to need those wet wipes for what's coming out of your ass after you had an Arby's lunch at 10.30 a.m.

You have to be careful, too, because even though they say flushable, they still clog your toilet. And you've got to call a plumber. It's like 500 bucks. It's okay. The poop is liquid. Yeah, normally the poop is a little thicker.

This is a tag team operation between the wipes and the poop. And the solidity of it is much less than a nice solid shit would be. So our toilet plumbing should be okay. You know what's not okay? What's that?

Taz Butthole No, it never is He had two of those sandwiches this morning You saw him Cheese fries? Yes, he did There was beef? Oh, big beef I believe he had an energy drink as well

Yeah, I think he had a Dr. Pepper and Diet Coke If he would have asked Oppenheimer himself To piece together an ingredients list to make a bigger shit, Oppenheimer wouldn't have been able to figure out something more devastating than what Ty put in his body this morning. The real Adam Bond. His guts had been cooking for hours and hours and hours. And hours. What?

And hours. It was like a slow roast. Of a mush that was ready to enter the world in an explosive fashion. And that time has come. Good luck to all parties in there. We appreciate you, Ty. Good luck, Ty. Praying for you, Ty.

Well said. What time are you going? How long was that moment of silence? About a minute. 2.09. Probably two minutes. 2.09. 2.07 maybe. I mean, it should be pretty quick with how fast he had to get there.

Don't you think? I think it's going to be a lot. I think it's going to be a lot. When you hear red alert, like Tony mentioned, that has happened many times. I don't think we've heard of red alert. I've never heard of red alert. This is one of those things where it's like I've run into some people before in my life that are allergic to shellfish.

Sure. They say you might die of course and normally they just don't eat it and there are some people that are like I like the taste of shrimp I need it and then they roll the dice and they end up in the hospital of course Ty knows that his guts

are active and he just continues to say, fuck it. He doesn't care. Can I put some chocolate milk on top of this, Arby's? Can I eat a wheel of cheese? What? How about an energy drink to mix these things together? Give me a laxative.

And then he is an adult. Very intelligent, accomplished, professional man. Oh, yeah. Almost shits his pants right there. And then he is an adult, a very intelligent, accomplished, professional man. Oh, yeah. Almost shits his pants right there. That one, this was the fastest I've ever seen him scurry. Yeah, not the first time. He was very worried. He was very worried.

Yes. Right here. There was fear in that man's gait as he was walking. You should have felt the push. I haven't felt it like that before. We should rule out that he didn't make it. Yeah, there's... I'm thinking mid... We can't rule anything out right now.

He might be laying on the bathroom floor just poop full. Have Bill check on him. Have Bill check on him. We did some... I don't think anybody should be going into that bathroom anytime soon. We'll let Bill's natural habitat fulfill. No, Bill has his own office in the bathroom. Yeah, and his own bathroom as well. And his own workout facility.

That he built himself in the office. That's the most... Did you expect something that large? I did not. Hey, do you know Bill put some workout equipment together in his office? I did not know that I walked in. I saw an LA Fitness in his office. I did not expect

the fucking the grandness of what Bill pieced office. I did not expect the fucking grandness of what Bill pieced together. I did not expect it. It was phenomenal. Hey, Bill, do you. Took up a lot of space in there. Took up quite a lot of space in his office. Yeah, he's fucking. We have a full weight room in here.

I don't understand it. Yeah, but he needs reps in between coding YouTubes, dude. And Bill is incredibly jocked right now. Oh, yeah. Bill is incredibly jocked. We did some self-scout on the program. We think it's been about 74 days since the last almost shit pants situation. Okay.

This was from the sharded situation. 74? I think it was more days than that. Oh, I was going to say, I mean, if we're including the break, yeah, maybe. I would like to know how the self-scout happened behind the glass. Did somebody just say 74? Somebody goes, it's a good number. December 12th, I had it updated at 13 days, and we kind of just did the math.

December 12th, yeah. So that's two months, three months. And then we just got Mondays and Fridays. And we took two weeks off. So it should be two weeks, maybe minus that. Hey, he's back, ladies and gentlemen. That's our baby, Ty. Oh.

Ty, you were back at 2.14.39. Good time. I think it was about a five-minuter in there. We don't know how the battle went. We don't know who won the war, who lost the war. We saw a sense of urgency out of your gate to the John that I don't think we've ever seen before

as you get your earbuds in. That was close. Very close. Clean and efficient, though. I've been a little constipated. I haven't had a good poop in a couple days. So that's why you did the Arby's thing? Oh, yeah.

I was like, hey, listen, we're not doing this anymore. Let's kind of. Because I said you kind of put an Oppenheimer together in your stomach. Had to. Okay, so this was a plan. Yeah, I didn't have a choice. Didn't have a choice. I thought I'd be able to kind of save it until after the show.

And then I want to say about 20 minutes into Florio, I got a very, very tight twinge, and I said, okay, I'm going to try to hold on until the break and get – I got close. No cigar, but I got close. We delayed the break, too. I mean, that was tough. Yeah. That was tough.

Some things happened. Arnie Mirov had a tweet. Well, I kind of felt it go away a little bit, and I said, okay, I'll be fine. And then I was like, okay, well, I'm not going to do the whole chart song and dance again, so let's just. Oh, we were that close, right? Because you were really. Yeah, had to move.

Had to move. I mean, that was, you know, hey, no time. Is that the normal cycle? What did you say? Like, is that a normal cycle where you're constipated for multiple days, and you're like, here we go, let's get some roast beef sandwiches and some cheese fries and energy drinks? No, no, no, no, No, no, no, no. I thought you normally dump your life away liquid dumps. I do.

How do we get better? How do we get better from this, Ty? You don't have colitis and IBS. So until they come up with an overnight fix for that... Elon, get on the Neuralink. Fix Ty's dumps. Honestly, I'm still kind of just like,

you know, I got Montezuma's revenge. That's certainly part of it, but yeah, like, in the Dominican Republic, you know, you go to those resorts and it's, I mean, they try to Americanize it as much as they can, but you're eating the same meals, breakfast, lunch, and

dinner. So I've kind of just been trying to recover from that ever since I got back. I'm not going to put my tinfoil hat on, because look at that. You're running straight up and down. Yep. And then you did pick up another gear there. Yeah, I had to clinch.

It's one of those things, right? Yeah, we saw some real panic. Can't fidget with the belt. This needs to be a clean, get it off, get them down, get it out. Really good effort out of you. Proud of you, man. I appreciate it. All right, let's get to a, oh, yeah, sinful cap thing.

So at those resorts, all you can, you got the full. Yeah, all inclusive. All inclusive, thanks. Okay, so are they trying to stuff you up so you can't eat as much? No. When I was at, it had a buffet. I thought about that when I was at an all-inclusive one time. It also had like six or seven restaurants you could just sit down at,

like a normal restaurant. Correct. But it's basically the same. You have to make reservations for these restaurants, but it's like just slightly better food than what you're getting at. Yeah, but it's at the buffet. You get to go out. Yeah, for sure.

Take a photo. Dress up. Do a thing. Right. But you don't think they're trying to clog you up see i don't know because i use always used to think too with like the booze you know it's like they're i don't think that i'm just asking the question like they you're not get like when you get like a pina colada or whatever like there's hardly any booze in there because they don't just want a bunch of over-served assholes at the pool and stuff like that. I was watching them

make the drinks. I was like, this is at a bar. They don't give a fuck. They'll let you get as liquored up as you want to out here. That was much different than I remember from the previous time. Very nice. Exactly. You were scouting the bartender out and you were like, god damn.

A couple of those times. You see that guy? He's pretty fucked up. I'd go in after I'd had a couple and I'd see him make it. I'd be like, okay, I don't need to drink this right now. My fucking daughter's in the pool right now. I can't be belly up, boozed up,

floating around in here. I can't do that. I'll have a sip and leave this thing on the bar. Appreciate it. That was much different than I remembered. AJ, the whole ordering drinks thing with how much the bartender puts in there, these are full conversation that happens with my wife and I literally every time we order a drink. Because I think the bartender thinks they're doing us a service. Yeah, of course. And I'm like, I just need a normal.

Yeah, I just need. You want the opposite. Most people, you're trying to say, hey, more diet, less booze, right? Yeah. It tastes good. I just want a little whiskey. A little splash in there. I think you are in the minority there, though.

Yeah, that's the minority. Most people want more whiskey. Or at least just make it by the book. Put it in the. Everybody sees me, they Google. One of them. Oh, yeah. This guy loves getting fucked up.

Let's just give him a heavy pour Hey man, shout out to you And I appreciate all the bartenders and people in the service industry That watch our program, which I think is a lot of people Because phones aren't on where they work and everything like that I do appreciate the hookup But if you're a bartender I think Sam figured it out

I think I just order the Diet Coke And then get a shot of Jack There it is. Mix it yourself. Make it yourself. That's the move. That's the one. Okay, I'm happily figuring it out.

People do that with Red Bull vodkas. They'll order two shots of vodka or sometimes tequila, and then they'll just ask for a can of Red Bull. Yeah, so they're not drinking too much Red Bull, and they know that they're actually getting that much boost. Tone loves Red Bull vodkas. Oh, yeah, who doesn that they're actually getting that much boost. Town loves Red Bull Vodka. Oh, yeah, who doesn't? I've overcome that.

Just like AJ overcame his shrimp thing, I pound Red Bulls if I need to. Are you serious? Yeah, no problem. Is that real? Yeah. The heart's back. The heart's back. How'd you fix it? Lost a bunch of weight.

How'd you fix that? Heart's good. I don't know. The heart's been good for a couple years now. You used to be strictly ginger ale guy. I still am that, because I don't need to be drinking RBVs. Yeah, I couldn't tell you the last time I did a Rebel Vodka. That was quite a run.

I've had one sporadically throughout the years. I said, oh, it tastes like college. Bingo. Amen, brother. Bingo. The espresso martini has become the I need juice drink. That's big everywhere now. That's not just you and the boys.

It's all over. I think maybe you guys have influenced a lot of people. I've been seeing people order. No way. I doubt it. It was us, but I certainly got influenced by the Espresso Martini boys here in the office. There was no chance I was going to have that.

It's a takeover. There was four of us sitting at a bar. Espresso Martini, Espresso Martini. I'll take a Jack and Diet. Espresso and martini. Espresso and martini. What? I'll take a Jack and Diet. Thanks. Espresso and martini on the other side. And I was like, boy, times have changed. And then what happened?

And then Connor goes, listen, I know exactly how you're feeling right now. Yep. You need to power past it because what's on the other side is a drink that is delightful. You are going to love the way this tastes. Don't think about how it sounds. Don't think about how it sounds. Don't think about how it sounds. Don't think about the glass. Just have a sip.

And I did, and I'll tell you, they are delicious. Have a look back. They are. Can you ask for a different glass? I think they're coming. I saw a talk tagged me. Okay, yeah. Talk.

It wasn't an espresso martini. That was not an espresso. You see the color of that thing? It comes in a martini glass. Yeah, exactly. It wasn't a martini glass. That was not an espresso. You see the color of that thing? No, it's espresso martini. It comes in a martini glass. Yeah, exactly. It was a martini glass. You could get another glass, though. Talk had a fantastic break.

Is that when somebody was pouring something, looked like down one of his orifices? Yeah, so he was dancing on a table, and I guess he slipped and fell onto his back, looked like a turtle with all the legs up. And as he was falling off table, grabbing for chair, some lady who i do not know who's wearing a very cool hat thank you very cool very cool hat just started dumping water

on old talk so talk had a great vacation from what i saw one brief moment in time and then i saw two speeches that he gave before dinner to an entire restaurant. A couple of them. Okay. A couple entire restaurants. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Someone please add me into that. I need to check that out. Connor and I watched it last night on our three-hour flight to San Antonio.

That will only take two and a half hours. Whole restaurant? It was so, yeah. Nobody threw a knife at his head? He didn't, like, walk up and say attention. Yeah. But I guess with where he was standing. Yeah, it was quiet restaurants and where he

was, where we were positioned because it was a big group of people. We were basically in the center of these restaurants. And so yeah, gave a couple speeches. He did have a pretty good break. I will say I kind of had to follow him down the ski mountain and there was

one time where he really took a tumble, and it took us about 10 minutes to get his skis back on. His skis fell off. That was a yard sale? On the mountain, yeah. We're on the side of this hill, and I have his leg around my shoulder, hey, hey, hey, trying to get his leg back. I'm serious.

I slam his fucking leg into the skis. It's just not working. Some snowboarder, this lady, wonderful lady, had to come stop. I was like, are you guys all right? And we're like, no, we're fucked up, and we can't get this fucking guy's skis on. And then she helped us out and did it.

Talk is, hey, this guy. One of a kind. So you know Tim Robinson? Okay. Obviously, I think you should leave we all love and this particular we love because you know we love tim robinson yep this dude is the closest to i had never experienced a tim robinson in my life before a human with his brain the brain that tim robinson has i've never encountered i've never seen it before so obviously i think his show is

hilarious like this whoever thought of this right now is worthy of me watching and laughing at in this entire thing talk is talk robinson he's pretty close he he has a brain that is very so what is he being serious all the time i think what do you mean i i think this is like he can't. No, no. I think since he has moved here, now Conor's known him since college, so I could be wrong here. He's just been playing a character the whole time. That's what I'm saying, though. It's like Russell Wilson.

It's always. I think talk is, I mean, every time I've encountered him, it has been the same exact thing. Yeah. And seeing him in different spots, it's amazing. Him giving that speech, that video you have. Yes. Just the thought of him reading a speech he prepared. What, he read it? Oh yeah.

Doc Talk isn't a big memorized guy. But then every two sentences obviously look up. That's what they teach you in fifth grade. In fifth grade they teach you that. Read one line and look at the crowd. And at the end the first one was, look, the game's beginning. Espresso martini.

Oh, yeah, espresso martini. It was amazing. I'm happy everybody had a great break. Talk is also like the thing that you guys haven't experienced with talk. I think Nick just took a shit as well. You were an Arby's boy today, weren't you? Nick, were you? No, I actually haven't eaten lunch in two days. Just coffee and

Zin's, but I just wanted to take a leak. That'll certainly do it. Eat this guy's problem. Are you okay? Is everything okay? Yeah. Where's she eating lunch? We have stuff to do.

All right. What? Pack a bar. You need to eat now. You need to eat some food. There's like a little protein bar or something. I got one in my bag. Who's reporting this to H&R?

Yeah, let's get H&R. The amount of uppers that you have in your blood too already? You shouldn't be doing that. I'm okay. I just had to take a leak. All right. Hey, if you need to talk about anything ever, let me know. I appreciate that.

Can we make Casey head of our H&R? Now that you mention it. We can't have talk being the H&R. I think that would be good. Yeah, we could. HR, am I doing taxes? Why is there becoming a problem? He would literally...

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That is what he... I would walk up to him and go, talk, how we doing today? That would be his actual answer if he was an H&R person. That's why he is a beauty. But you get him on that computer. Yeah.

Emmy award winning. Yeah, exactly. Editor. I mean, that's the thing. He is unbelievable at what he does. He is the poster boy for what people who actually need Adderall are. He cannot. What you guys haven't experienced, and I honestly pray that you never do,

is that motherfucker without his Adderall. Because it is the most. I can't explain how infuriating it is. It is difficult. What do you mean? It is difficult to be friends with that kid when he's not on his Adderall because he needs it that bad. And he knows it.

He would admit it himself. Like, yeah, I am one of the worst human beings on the face of the planet. Well, good. I'm happy that he got it sorted, found that out, got it figured out. Because I would like to let him know that I love every second I'm around Toc. Oh, yeah. In every photo I get of him in other places,

I try to figure out what's going through Toc's brain at that exact time. He was hanging with Mitt. Toc and Mitt are doing life. We need to send them like fucking Europe. They should do Amazing Race. They should. They should do. Yes.

Both of them are in like the perfect time in life right now, granted. They should do. Yes. Yes. Both of them are in the perfect time in life right now, granted. They should not be hanging out together. Our business would suffer mightily. No, no, no. We can just... They'd be gone for a week. They're not going to win Amazing Race. They're going to lose right away.

They wouldn't get there. That's a good point. If we set it up where one of the weeks... They wouldn't get to the start line. Exactly. If one of the weeks of vacation was the first episode of Amazing Race, they'd be back before vacation was even over. Business is one of one, obviously.

Hey, talk. Great work, baby. I bet you talk. Talk. Let's get to a break. We got journalism to do on the other side. Sports media to do on the other side. Are you going to do anything, AJ?

Are you going to break any news? Can't wait. I thought you were teasing something. I thought you were setting something up to tease. I thought that's what you were. I was setting you up to set up. Oh, with what you have in mind and what you have mentioned to me in the past, I think this last hour, this last situation that's going to happen,

it's going to be a wreck. I'm honestly, I'm on the edge of my seat right now. Boom. I don't know if you have enough room in that attic to be on an edge of a seat. Not really, no. You've got to sit elected. I'm honestly, I'm on the edge of my seat right now. Boom. I don't know if you have enough room in that attic to be on an edge of a seat. Not really, no. You got to sit back. You got to sit back a little bit. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I bet

people are aroused right now because you've been teasing them enough. Metaphorically, obviously. Like Michael Cole last night with those antlers. What the hell's wrong with that guy? That's awesome. That's his second tweet in three years. Looks like a moose.

It crushed too. A boyhood dream has come true. This dude's out of control. Hey, FaceTime him. FaceTime him right now. Let's see if he answers. Why? I'm busy. Why? I'm drinking. Why? I'm drinking.

He's probably got it. Laying in his pool. Yep. Those stupid flip-flops on. Mm-hmm. These disgusting feet all over the place. Put his soul patch back on. He looks good.

You see how good he is. Oh, yeah. He's great. I told him, like, five times when I saw him in Vegas. I'm like, man, you look great. And he was almost, like, embarrassed by it. He's like, oh, yeah, you know. Joining us now is a man who climaxed

to putting antlers on his head last evening whenever Valhalla and Ivar came out as the Viking duo in the WWE that they are and gifted Michael Cole something he had been fantasizing about for actual months. Ladies and gentlemen, the voice of the WWE, Michael Cole. Yeah! So, you guys just call me out of the blue?

You guys don't make appointments or set me up to be a guest or something? You just call me and put me on the show? Hang up on him. Yeah, Cole. Okay? You put your second tweet out in three years last night. Okay? Actually, why don't you tell the truth about the tweet?

Tell the truth about the tweet because I don't tweet. I actually do the tweets for Michael. I actually piece them together. I go, Cole, what would you say here? And he says, exactly. And I go, okay, thank you, Cole. Perfect. And we are out and about.

And he said. I come up. Perfect. Oh, wait. Oh, hang on. I think we. I think we... This guy sucks. Yeah.

Well, and you... Don't you have to tweet for him? Did anyone else assume he was just being attacked by, like, a coyote? Yeah, he has no idea. He might be. Well, I thought after the first debacle with him and Twitter... Yeah, well... Wow.

That's a whole other... Yeah. Oh, okay. That's a whole other conversation. Nothing. Cole's... Hey, his tweets is less... All right.

And there he goes i think he was attacked by a coyote i'm worried about the biggest high of highs last night yeah did you see him light up oh yeah he was holding the he was holding the mic because it couldn't fit over his head obviously because there was antlers and feathers and a raccoon skin had nailed down the side of it and i think there's some broken bones on the side of course and he's holding his microphone with the headset hanging like this so he could call a match and i'm like what boyhood dream fulfilled yeah and then it left all over his head yeah all over him with no idea by the way obviously no it's been a blast. It's been awesome. Perfect timing. He said, sorry, he was out ranching.

There's no signal. Some of us have to work is what he said. I bet that guy ranches. Of course. It was a home game for him last night. He calls that place home. He lives. He's out there in Texas.

He's got land. Has he been there for a while? He moved there a long time. he's been there a long time and it's far it is like he legit does he have land does he have like some space yeah michael cole 27 years wwe's only missed two shows he has done well for himself congratulations boy cole he's awesome he's so good that's such a tough gig like You guys are obviously a great duo. Cole, he's awesome. No, the only reason why I can be the asshole that I am

is because he's literally just the biggest safety net of all time. Anything I say, okay. Cole, I need you to make that. Make it right. I need you to make that right, Cole. Okay, go ahead. And he's just obviously been there 27 years, and he's so talented. So smart, so good.

Anytime they try to find somebody cory graves been doing a great job by the way hey cory hey baby go on corey it's not easy to just get in there and do that because you got to balance a lot of things and changes and surprises and this and that and who knows what the is going to happen at a wwe actually yeah who knows what is going to happen so he's so, but it's been a lot of fun. And get a chance to see everybody every week has been really cool. A lot of people I have a lot of respect for, I get a chance

to chat with every single week again, and it's awesome to be back over there. And so much stuff is happening. All the storylines are heating up. Legit. Hey, Seth Rollins, medically cleared. He's an Iowa guy. Oh, yeah. Huge. You know the rock in the middle of his promo on Friday Night Smackdown? Mm-hmm.

He said, I might take a chair and sit down next to my boy, Pat McAfee, over there. And he said, I'm going to take that chair and I'm going to bash your brains in with it to kill you, right? Jeez. That's a soap. It'd be tougher to finish the story with his brains bashed in. Yeah, it'd be horrible to finish anything. He's talking Ken Shamrock. That's what he was thinking

and he said it whenever he said it with the microphone over there. That's hardcore. He said he would do that. It's no joke. I was referencing that one. And then remember, he said, take the nuggets and shovel them. And then he said, well, that's two times.

So when Cody Rhodes and Seth Rollins come out there, I'm always like, I'm just going to go because I'm just doing my job. That's two times now. Two times. So when Cody Rhodes and Seth Rollins come out there, I'm always like. What's going on? I'm just going to go because I'm just doing my job. That's right. Yeah. Doing my job. I mean, bloodline rules.

You don't want to get involved in a match that has bloodline rules. No. It's worse than. It's all a family tree. It's worse than no rules. Oh, yeah. I was in on that, too. Presser.

Yeah. Obviously, we acknowledge acknowledge your trouble. How's Mommy doing? I was going to say, you were using your penis because Mommy just came out. You were all horned up. Mommy laughed in somebody's face last night. Yeah, dunked all over. Who was it, Liv Morgan or the man?

I think it was the man. Might have been Becky. She got to celebrate with her family down in Perth. It was awesome. Yeah, big time win over Nia. That Yeah. Big time win over Nia Jax. That's in Australia. She beat Nia Jax. Crazy.

Nia Jax went off the second rope last night with a leg drop on Becky Lynch. Man. I thought she was dead. As God is my witness, I'm 15, 10 feet away. Yep. Out of eye level with Becky Lynch with where I'm sitting and standing. I see Nia Jax fly through the sky I go, what are they

Becky's got to roll out of the way She's got to roll out of the way She did not Becky Lynch kicked out of two I had no idea how she was still alive That's the man Stole that guy's hat Beat that guy up with his own hat

Nia Jax is an absolute savage yeah she does not care no no no she got the proper mix of power wit speed moxie in menace she does have some speed she's fine she's got full back agility that doesn't mean she's taking mommy down no chance well she didn't good Perth. Good luck taking Mommy down. Yeah, exactly. Let's see what happens in the States. Bingo. Mommy again.

Mommy's the top for game. Yeah. Yeah. The only person I know that I see on a consistent basis who wears black lipstick. Pulls it off. Yeah, here she is. Yeah, just pissing in the man's mouth. Mommy would beat the fuck out of me.

Everybody in there would beat the fuck out of you. Oh, you think so? I disagree. I could see Tony beating J.D. McDonough's ass. I agree. I concur. I disagree on everyone. Mommy did do that to the man, though.

Oh, yeah. They made a couple references to that Like numerous weeks ago Jesus, hell yeah I mean Gumby was talking about the Claymore kick McIntyre threw down on Rollins Heal Drew McIntyre is my favorite thing going right now This guy, he wins the elimination

Not his fault Not his fault Logan Paul knocks out Randy Orton Drew McIntyre 1-2-3 Jimmy Uso Not his fault. Dirty pool. Shit happens. Logan Paul knocks out Randy Orton. Yep. Drew McIntyre, one, two, three. Mm-hmm. Jimmy Uso. Oh, Drew McIntyre, one, two, three.

Mm-hmm. He's been benefiting from some outside stuff. The wrestling gods seem to... Yeah, on his side. It's about time. It is? Hey, listen. I'm on Drew McIntyre's side. He's quite calculated.

He keeps rubbing it in his face, you see, on Punko. He does. I love that. You love that? Yeah, why not? Really? Why not? That is great.

You don't like the punk? It's a good gimmick. Gumpy. I like Drew. I like punk, but I am a fucking Scottish warrior. Okay. Psychopath. Psychopath.

Hey, me too. Our entire office is big Drew McIntyre. Yeah, friend of the program. That's why whenever I see him doing his stuff, he's doing it. I'm always like, what's this guy all about? Michael Cole called him a hypocrite the other week. Oh, geez. That was cold.

Tread carefully, Cole. I wouldn't do that. McIntyre doesn't care. Let's get to a break. We got sports media to do on the other side. Speaking of bloodline, let's continue. How come Ezekiel, and we're not talking about that bloodline Ezekiel and

Family tree is too hard to trace The tree all looks the same It's like a bamboo tree Yeah Very symmetrical tree As one branch mirrors the other Exactly Just with different leaves a little bit

But Elias is okay I think Yeah he's okay as one branch mirrors the other exactly. That's right. Just with different leaves a little bit. Correct. But Elias is okay, I think. Yeah, he's okay. You know, it's funny you say that because, like, AJ Hawk looks like he could be a member of that family. There might be some distant relatives back along the lines of the route. That is a bloodline in professional wrestling. Here we go.

I mean, I'll tell you what. That's the bloodline. His old buddy in the backwards hat. Yeah, he does kind of look like. That's cousin. He looks like Elroy. He looks like AJ's boy. He does kind of look like AJ's boy.

Some resemblance. He could be one of my boys. And then is that the grandma right there? That kind of has resemblance. That's the mom. Jesus Christ. Somebody's grandma. Yeah, that little boy.

Yeah, there we go. Does he have any trunks on underneath that towel? No, he has surgery. Boots are on though. He kept his boots in. Of course. They tried to take him off. Elias has got his boots on too.

You just can't see him. Elrod wouldn't let him take him off. He said, no, no, no, let the boy wear him. They have no idea if a six-man tag is about to bust out. Exactly. In the middle of that hospital. We've seen what happens in hospitals sometimes. Bingo.

Steve Austin, sometimes he's running wild, brother. I got it from here, dog. I'll take it from here, nerd. Grocery stores too. This family, this bloodline is awesome. I get a price check on a Jaguar. Resley is the greatest. It's the greatest.

I was sitting there last night. Santa in tone. Beautiful city. It's very far away. I've said that numerous times today because getting on that plane, I did not expect the amount of time I was going to be spending on that plane to that particular

program. I should have looked into it. That's on me. I'm sitting down in there and I start watching all the shit that's taking place around you and I just think to myself, this has got to be the greatest thing that taking place around you. And I just think to myself, this has got to be the greatest thing that has ever existed ever.

And then Michael Cole puts those fucking antlers on his head. And I just couldn't take it anymore. This is the greatest thing that has ever existed. Well, and you couldn't watch that one match because the Kombucha Warriors. The Kombucha Warriors. Excuse me. Who are women's tag team champions. Yes. Part of Damage Control alongside Io Sky, who's a champion on SmackDown. Excuse me. Who are women's tag team champions. Yes. Part of damage control alongside Io Sky, who's a champion on SmackDown.

Of course. I got respect for Sky. Okay, brother. And then Dakota, who's leading that crew, turned her back on Bayley. And Shayna, right? Baszler. Yeah. Well, Shayna and Zoe now Have a shot at the Kabuki Warriors

Next month I mean I wouldn't want to I would not want to cross paths With With the shit What is so funny Yeah I just would not want to

Just remember A couple weeks ago It was just pretty funny Sorry I apologize No it has nothing to do with W W It feels like

It does It does I fucking love the Kabuki Warriors. I agree. The best thing going right now. I tried to talk to them four or five times. They're sitting right in front of me. They just want no respect.

Who are you guys more scared of? Scream not scared in my face and then just turn around. I can't even do any journalism. I'm pulling for Zoe and Shana. Let's go Zoe and Shana. Let's get to a break. They got some devilish moves

that they're saving, I think. Okay, the sports journalism on the other side is going to be worthy of a watch. Absolutely. Has been so far. No, this is not. We're 40 minutes past the break that's supposed to happen. Remember, the only reason why this happened is because the code red that

Ty put on himself. We're actually two hours and 40 minutes past the break. Sorry, what? Is that real? I got a piss. So fucking bad. We have not taken a break yet? No.

We went to a different networking. We didn't take a break yet? No. We went to a different networking. We didn't even take a break. I might piss out my asshole. I might as well just wait and see if I do. All right. I didn't even realize. Boys, good times today. This is the longest I've had.

Nick took a break. When Nick left, I was like, this dude, what a... It's two and a half hours. No, I just had to piss, dude. Sorry about it. All right, let's take a break. I haven't sat in the same spot while being awake since I was a fetus.

That Bill Burr hour flew. Yeah, that was awesome. I was hoping that went until 4-0. It almost did. Yeah, I know. All right, guys, I had a0. It almost did. Yeah. It would have, yeah. All right, guys. I had a blast. Okay.

And then he was off. And then we're on ESPN2. It's been a good day. All right. We'll finish it fantastically on ESPN. Hell yeah. We got sports journalism going on. And also, these are my notes, okay, on the new kickoff that has been presented.

I'm not going to let you get a look at that or a screenshot of that. I was on the phone this morning going through the actual kickoff that is being pitched to the owners to save the kickoff play, seemingly, from the special teams coaches' eyes. Unanimous agreement from special teams coaches, which is not what we heard about anything in the years past in which they were trying to save the kickoff. So I had one of the founding fathers of this particular concept that was

pitching it to all the other special teams coordinators. Break it down. 37 minutes is how long that conversation was. There's a lot. But here's a couple numbers to think about. Last year, 1,970 touchbacks. So many. 1,970 touchbacks.

So many. This plan, if implemented, would have an 80 to 85% they're projecting return rate. Like that. Which would be an extra 1,600 explosive plays potentially to football. Love it. While also keeping strategy. Sports! All right, beautiful. Nice, AJ.

That was really good. From Madison and Attica, Ohio, AJ Hawker. Yeah, Hawker. I wasn't sure. I wasn't real confident. I thought I didn't know if we were football or sports at the last second I chose sports. Well, hey, way to make a confident decision. You need to believe in yourself a little bit more because you were right all along. You sounded fantastic. We are talking sports.

We're talking a lot of sports here in a matter of moments, but this is Franchise Tag Tuesday. We'll keep you all updated with anything that happens around the NFL while we're at the first break of the day, two hours and 40 minutes in. Already having somebody potentially shit themselves and piss their own pants. We took

a break. An update has come out about Michael Pittman. The Colts do plan on utilizing the franchise tag on Michael Pittman if they can't reach a deal by the 4 p.m. deadline, which pays them $21.8 million for the 2024 year. But there's still time before the tag. From what was being reported in potential conversations at the Combine, there was a lot of hope that a deal would be able to get done by Michael

Pittman and the Colts. Feels like that is still the hope of either the Colts or Michael Pittman, both parties, as we have an hour and six minutes left. But Michael Pittman will remain in Indianapolis Colts. The talk's at the tables here at Posse Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One after the hammer, Cowboys 10 Diggs is here.

And I want to let the world know, I hope Michael Pittman gets his money. But him being a Colt next year is good news for somebody that is a sweet holder at Lucas Earl Stadium with the Indianapolis Colts. Yeah, but I think we know how this goes. You know, Michael Pittman gets it, and I think the Colts get it. Like, hey, Michael, you want your money? This is how you do it. Don't you.

Don't wait. Turn into a huge cancer. Okay? We need you to be a bad teammate. We need you to show up to training camp, but, you know, put your hood on. Don't talk to people. But then they would set a precedent, and they would have to do that to a player like next year.

Well, that's going to happen next year, too. So I think the Pittman is kind of the last one. You guys need to stop. We don't need to put this into the universe. No, well, it's already in there. If I knew the Colts organization, they would never let that happen. If a player did that, they would not give them a brand new deal. What are you doing?

Why are we doing this? Has it happened before? This is good news. Michael Pittman is a Colt next year. That's why I'm here. Why are you upset? We're saying good things that the Colts would never let that happen. The Colts would never.

Yeah, but you're saying it in a manner as like, oh, that happened this past season. With who? Our best player. So, I understand that this might come back in Buds in the ass in Europe. Someone has to show Tony Richardson the way like, hey, buddy, you want your money? Matt Ryan is still on the team.

Still paying for him? Alright. Carson Wentz is still on the team. No, he's not. Is he still on the Rams? No, and to be fair, I don't Alright, Carson Wentz is not on team yet. Is he still on the Rams? To be fair, I don't think that Carson Wentz dead cap was from the Colts. It was Philly. You traded the whole contract

to the Commies because they're a poverty franchise too. Okay, alright. Well, I don't know how the two snuck in. You do. That's kind of how you've been doing this entire thing talking about this Pittman situation, because I was pumped that he is back as an Indianapolis Colt. But what you're saying is exactly what a lot of us were thinking

while Jonathan Taylor was doing what Jonathan Taylor was doing this past season during training camp, as Shane Steichen, first-year head coach, with a rookie quarterback, is trying to institute a brand-new culture. And Jonathan Taylor said, I am going to stand out and hang out and not be a distraction

at all. Get away from the team. He inevitably got paid from that. After Zach Moss was top five Russian in the league while he sat out, which was another one of those things. I was potentially worried at the time as a Colts fan and a Colts alumni.

I hope Michael Pittman doesn't just think those. Once again, as a Colts fan and a Colts alumni. I hope Michael Pittman doesn't just think to himself. Because once again, as Colts fan, Michael Pittman consummate Colt. Dog. Fucking beast. So they're going to figure it out. They'll figure it out. Michael already did. So they'll figure it

out because Michael did. Michael Pittman is a Colt. That is the story Pittman is a cult. Yeah, he... That is the story. That is a fact. That is the story. Yes. Michael Pittman is a cult.

And he's going to be a bad teammate until August. He doesn't have that in his blood. Well, actually, Jonathan Taylor was like the mayor of every town here. It was. Yeah, but he got that new agent. Yeah, he got him paid, though. Yeah, true. Who's Pittman?

And that agent took a victory lap on our faces. He did. He did. Wild. Because I guess he should have. Does Pittman have the same agent? What if he does just sign with him and then we'll be like, well. I mean, it would make sense. Hey man, you got the deal done for John Taylor. It's my time now.

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Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh Colts? Yes. Backed. Yes, he is. Universe. Universe ball. Okay. He's staying with the Colts for his entire career. Well, there might be a couple for the next five years. Four. Three. Three years. Including the tag year?

Three years from right this moment. From this moment, three more seasons. Three more seasons. Okay. Universe ball. 300 more catches. Boy, I hope we fucking need him. I hope you need him. Yeah, join it. You got it.

Michael Pittman! Oh! He did it! Okay. That's huge. Pittman's back. Can't talk about it anymore. The universe has spoke.

I'm happy to hear that. Congrats, Moolagatha, Michael Pittman Jr., Chris Ballard, Indianapolis Colts, and everybody that is a fan of the horseshoe. Congrats, Colts. That was huge. That was massive. Holy fuck! Needed that one. That was cool, wasn't it? I'm so pumped. That was. I had a little anxiety

before I shot that. I was like, oh, no. Anyways, let's do some journalism. So the kickoff play in football, AJ, has been one that has been highly scrutinized by the health and safety folks of the NFL. Now, obviously, health and safety people of the NFL have gotten a lot more power in the say of how the game goes

since Dr. Will Smith and the lawsuit and CT and everything. Correct. Tell the truth. Whenever they were going to kill the game, seemingly. The game was being attacked because of how dangerous it was and what it did to ex-players, and they were exposing everything, and football was going to die. The greatest sport on earth, the greatest league on earth,

was going to die because of this. So the NFL did exactly how you would expect them to handle this particular type of situation. They bring in an abundance of doctors and specialists and say, hey, we're getting sued for billions of dollars. They're attacking our game. Kids might not want to play in the future. We need to make sound adjustments to preserve the game forever. Now, have they made decisions that make a lot of us football people go you're fucking ruining the game some yeah

but the state of the game is in a very good place oh yeah we still feel like we have great football we still feel like we have physical football we still have fast football we still have violence we still have it all but it seems to be tempered just a little bit and there's a generation that has only known this style of football so their version of it has been electrifying to watch ratings are at an all-time high but there's one particular play that the health and safety folks have continued to say hey water huh is the juice worth the squeeze here remember billion dollar lawsuit dr will smith tell the truth. This play right here. Get rid of it. Fuck it. Don't need it.

Roger Goodell has come out and said, I love, I want to keep floating football. Thank you, Roger. I love the kickoff, but with what we're being told by the people that we employed to tell us these particular information, pieces of information, they're telling us that this play is not worth it at all.

1,970 times that it happened, literally ball just got kicked out of end zone, ceremonial, nothing happened. People are taking a leak. People are going to the bathroom. People are bored out of their minds. It is just happening just to happen because it's happened for a very long time. We need to figure out how to save the kickoff for football. Last year, they instituted the fair catch rule because they thought that it would eliminate concussions. It would also give them a good place, a good starting

field position for the offense. It would be something that would limit the amount of contact, even if the kicks aren't as perfect as they had been in the past. Every special teams coach hated it, but they used it. And what happened? Well, only 22% of kicks were returned last year.

Okay? Only 22% of kicks were returned. Helped out with the concussions and the injuries, obviously. Stats were good for that particular fashion. But for the electrifyingness, if that's a word, of the kickoff, completely gone. So we need to figure out how to keep the concussions and injuries down, but also keep the electricity if we want to save play for future generations of football. So the special teams coordinators got together.

There were a couple founding fathers of this particular concept. That is a take on the XFL's concept, but changed a little bit to make sure that it isn't just an ugly dumb play that did potentially happen in the xfl they're calling this the nfl hybrid kickoff conversed safer version of a kickoff okay let's go to the footage, AJ. Shall we? Let's go to the Piero. All right. So here we are on the football field.

Okay. So the kicker will remain kicking off at the 35. Okay. Kicker is all by himself here on the 35, if you will. Okay. That's a K. The other guys on the kickoff team are lined up on the plus 40. Okay. Just like we seen in the XFL where the kickoff crew is further down the field to

eliminate a 25 yard head start that they saw as one of the main reasons of why these injuries keep taking place on the kickoff play. So you will have the other 10 people who are covering the kick on the 40-yard line. Now, similar rules to the past on where people can line up. Two people will have to be outside the numbers, two people in the alley, then you can have one in between the hash marks. And on the other side, you have the same exact rule where, well, there's other two, you get it, are outside the numbers. So this is the same rules we have now. All feet have to be on, or one foot has to be on the 40-yard line. So then the kickoff return team now, we're talking to ourself. Well, where are they going to be? Well, they're going to be in the setup zone, which is the 35 to 30, which is

obviously five yards away from the kickoff team. Six, damn, we got to get back to that. Six of the nine people have to be lined up on the line of the 35. Okay. So one, two, three, four, five, six on the return team have to be lined up there. And then three people can be floaters in the setup zone, but six of them have to have their foot on the line of the 35 as the 10 people on the kickoff are all on the 40 here. So this whole thing is to eliminate a run-up against each other. Well, what's the kicker going to do who's kicking off from the 35? Well, he has to land it in the landing zone here okay

which is 20 to goal line all right where the other two people on the return team are lined up as returners okay the goal would be for the kicker to kick it and have it land in the landing zone okay and then you will have to return that, or I believe the fair catch is completely killed, but I assume you could do that and take the ball. If you kick a touchback, ball comes out to the 35. Ooh. Okay?

If you kick a ball that doesn't reach the landing zone, ball goes to the 40. Wow. Okay? If you kick it out of bounds, ball goes to the 40. And they're expecting with this particular style of kick for there to be an 80% to 85% return rate because kickers have to make it land in the land zone or you give up field position of a 35-yard start for a touchback.

If you don't kick it into the landing zone, it is a 40-yard field position start for the other team. And nobody can move until the ball is touched by the returner or the ground okay so that's when people move a ref will have her hand up and as soon as it is dropped that's when the play will start so to be like punt coverage kinda there'll still be strategy with two returners in the landing zone they can still do throwbacks with the three floaters in the setup zone that aren't able to move until the ball is touched you can still set up returns so i think special teams coaches are like yeah we can still utilize strategy we can still utilize the game it is a version of the xfl uh kickoff but it does have a little bit more yardage onside kicks or can only be in the fourth quarter by

the team that is trailing they have to say we are going to do the onside kick. It'll then go back to the rules that are currently in place where they will be live at the 35, but they will institute potentially a re-institute, an overload where you can have six people on one side, four on the other, where now it's just five and five because they don't want more numbers on one side versus another side.

They do want more recoveries of onside kicks, so that's why they're thinking about going back to the overload. They do want more returns, and the special teams coaches feel that if you force a team to return kicks, they'll return kicks. So you still keep returners. You still keep special teamers in the game. You still keep the kickoff in the game. You'll get more returns less injuries

they feel as if they have threaded the needle of everything the NFL is looking for and I believe that is what's being pitched to all the owners to potentially be passed as soon as like I believe like this upcoming season there we go I think they're trying to institute this pretty quick. 37 minutes, we went through it all. If the ball lands before the landing zone, the ball goes out to the 40. So it's treated as an out-of-bounds kick. Because I just thought to myself, well, at the 35, trying to land at 20 to goal line, why don't you just back that up to the 30 then so then there's a little bit more right you know is it hard to will one of our kickers have any problem

landing it between 20 and going there are some guys that might not be like i don't think i was a big bloop it guy because i just i kicked it hard which is an advantage now with the kickoff having a guy that can do that consistent if you can hang one that's what you're going to want you can go ahead and get a kicker if you can get a kicker that consistently. If you can hang one, that's what you're going to want. Go ahead, AJ. If you can get a kicker that can bloop it and he can run, he's going to be a part of the coverage because the other guys can't go until it's dropped, right? He can't pass the 50 until the ball is touched.

Oh, that's a shame. So he can cover from 35 to 50 once ball is touched, then he can get into the coverage if he would like. Because I was like, yeah, kick kicker because you get like justin reed yeah and uh you get those guys they kick off they hit it to the landing zone that's like max power and then they're scott free to go it's like now you can't cross the 50 because we are thinking about the asshole special teams coaches who will take advantage of every single rule that they possibly could my immediate thought in question was okay so I'm hitting a low squib that is

hitting in between the 20 and the goal line, and it's a touchback because I think that goes to the 20. Yeah, normal. So I think if it lands in the landing zone and then ends up in the end zone as a touchback, it comes out to the 20. Like, that's the best thing that can happen seemingly for the kicking team. But if you try that and you it lands low risky play you're coming back to the 40 or if one of the returners which two of them

are able to stop it it's like that's a quick return you got 15 yards probably yeah before that people that are lined up on the 40 are even getting there so it's a it's a take on the xfl kickoff for sure which which I was very against. I still think this is a drill. This is not the actual – It's like a condensed drill like you do in practice. You close quarters so you're not running back in those guys that are in the front line blocking on kickoff return. Aren't absorbing guys running 600 miles an hour straight down their face.

Yeah, but the messaging was coming pretty much like, hey, we need to – We've got to save this time. We need something. There's going to be a lot more returns. like, hey, we need to. We've got to save this. We need something. There's going to be a lot more returns. Like, hey, we need something. We have. But the NFL doesn't want returns, though. No, they do.

Do they actually want returns? I thought they just want touchbacks so no one gets hit and no one gets knocked out. The NFL is not happy that there's 1,970 touchbacks. Okay, good. They wanted returns. They wanted, like, the explosivity of a return to still be available. We want less injuries,

more returns, and figure it out or we're going to eliminate it. Pretty much is how it was relayed to me. This is what you all need to do. I think there was a Stanford kid who came up with the XFL kickoff. The XFL kickoff is, and I said converse, condensed. It is a condensed version of what a kickoff drill is in practice, pretty much. So it's a concept that every coach knows. It's a concept that every coach knows how

you can work returns off of it too, because you've been working in practice. The floating guys in the setup zone from the 30 to 35 aren't allowed to uh blindside so double team uh the off returner cannot be a part of a double team but anybody in the setup Zone the nine guys from the 30 to 35 can double team okay but floaters can't blinds like you can't just send go Go pick somebody off. And then from 35 to 40, you know, because the kickoff team is on the 40, return team has to have six guys with their foot on the 35 there in the setup zone. There's five yards.

They're not allowed to go forward. Kickoff return team is not allowed to go forward. So there's no runs, guys, in between the 35 to 40. That is a DHZ. Okay. That is a DHZ that is taking place in between a 35 and 40. So with how close everybody is, they're hoping that it will be more like a punt play for coverage

as opposed to big 25-yard run up, boom, bang, we're doing this, and guys are leading with that. We'll see some wall returns on kickoff. Throwbacks. The amount of throwbacks that are going to take place i think it'd be fun fun to watch honestly it will be fun to watch if they do something like this and it saves a lot of jobs i think it saves a lot of strategy it saves like a play and it saves a very crucial part of football and i've been very against this, but the messaging that came through me was like, we need this. Like, hey, we need this one.

It's like, you got it. So I didn't explain it that great because it's a lot that's going on, but pretty much I think this is going to work. I think it's going to get passed. I think it's going to get passed. Who votes though? We know the special teams coaches are on board.

Who has to pass it through? The competition committee, right? Yeah. Is it the competition committee? In the end of the day, it's the owners. Yeah, I think it's like 24 votes. That's what always has to take place. And it's like everything in the past has never had the special teams coaches support.

And from what I'm being told, I think NFLPA's support as well on this. So it's like, I think there's a chance that it's going to go. And congrats to them threading the needle. And if we get instead of almost 2,000 touchbacks and no plays

and we get an extra 1,600 plays. That's awesome. I think how many times we're going to try to do like you said. What if you hit it in the drop zone, but it goes in the end zone. You get a touchback. It goes to the 20, right? Yes.

Think about at the end of the game. It's going to be like nerve-wracking kickoffs. Like, okay, what are we going to do? He tries to execute that kick. Oh, no. Ball's out to the 40. You just gave them two extra first downs. Eight seconds left.

Nine seconds left. What are you going to do? Do you get a full touchback? Let him take it at the 35. 35 is a hell of a start. Yeah. 35 is a hell of a start, especially if you're up two. Say you're up two, and now you've got to do it.

Like, we've got to go cover a kick, seemingly. It's like baseball where you have to throw a strike. Yeah. Like, that is how you've got to get out of here. Like, you can't just squib one, run some timeout, do this entire thing. It's like you have to basically – you have to do a play. And I'm excited to see how they utilize it. If you say you're going to do an onside kick,

you have to do an onside kick, though. You can't just like say, yeah, we're doing an onside and a playing zone, you know, down there. After a safety, move everything up 15 yards pretty much because it goes from 35 to 20 where you're punting it. I think they're also pitching that you can kick off a tee after a safety, which you haven't been able to do in the past. You've never been able to actually do like a kickoff.

No tee allowed after. Now I think they're pitching punt or a kickoff. Move everything up, both the de-hit zone, the lineup line, and everything up 15 yards, including the landing zone and extending it all the way back to the end zone, I guess. So they're trying to get more returns. They're trying to keep it safe. I appreciate the fact that they're trying to, you know, save something that's special. No more surprise onside kicks, though, AJ.

That's a shame. That's a shame. It was kind of a dying art. And I got some stats here. Over the last four years, there was 15 surprise onside kicks attempted. Two of them were recovered. Not a ton. Tough.

This past year, 0 for 2. Okay. I think it was Denver and Detroit. I loved them. I loved surprise onside kicks. Man, they were really baiting you into doing that, weren't they? Oh, yeah. Well, that's because we hit a surprise onside kick to the right earlier in the season,

and we hit a surprise onside kick to the left earlier in the season. So what are they not going to cover? The middle. Oh, here's one to the left. Let me go ahead and drop it around there. That's after they started putting a hands team on. Yeah. I mean, it is.

We used it. Like, we used it, used it. And the Titans were on the wrong end of it a few times. Used it. Like, we used it, used it. And the Titans were on the wrong end of it a few times. My guy, Griff Whalen, after a Jack Doyle de-cleaning. Yeah, that's in the first quarter we do that.

Yeah. I mean, those things were awesome. Doyle. Thank you. Thank you. Ricky Jean-Francois, the man right there. Yeah, he was – I felt good about that one. I got intro'd that game. Hell yeah.

First game I got intro'd. game. Hell yeah. First game, I got intro'd. You know, fire the whole thing. Chuck, has you ever been introduced? Never. You guys are getting introduced today. Let's go. All right. Now we're talking.

All right. You know? And then he almost, like, regretted doing it immediately. It was like, maybe not. Actually. But then he calls a fucking surprise onside kick

in the first quarter. It's like, thank you, Chuck. Hey, Chuck, I appreciate what you're letting me do here today. But that's dead. That's gone. Sebastian Jankowski was phenomenal at it. Mason Crosby was phenomenal at it. David Akers was phenomenal at it. I'm trying to think of a couple

other guys. Youngway Koo is a great onside kicker. I don't know how many surprises. His era right now, the rules, kind of impossible. He had a few in that year, though. It was two or three years ago where he had like three onside kicks recovered. None of them surprised, but still. Yeah, but good onside kicker.

There's some guys through that have been good at it. I think guys also have not worked on onside kicks as much as of late because it's just like we're not going to get it. So am I going to waste reps in my leg that I don't just have an abundance of? You can't just kick 1,000 balls. Onside kick too is like you're torquing your groin, your quad, and you're jamming your toe straight into a football. It's like not fun. It's not fun to work on.

But like back in the day, at least, it was a pretty good thing to be able to do. It's like, hey, if we can get this thing to hop, it's a 50-50 pretty much. I still think that would... I still think, like, Sebastian Janikowski used to just run

so normal, and then just... Especially on that dirt that they had. And he used to just be able to just boom this. And he was just throwing a pass pretty much with a bounce ball, just right to his number one on the outside. It was like, that's gone. Not that it had been around for the last seemingly five, ten years or whatever.

Were people getting killed on those? I mean, were there a lot of injuries on those? They said that the onside kicks, there wasn't a lot of injuries on. Yeah. So it's all in that big run-up i guess yeah it's the sprint it's the full collisions yeah yeah that's the whole thing so onside kicks they said stats okay for injuries not worried about it they actually want to add more recoveries so that's why they might do the six by four again where you can at least run maybe

a twist or something to maybe get a little off schedule for the blocking team but they're trying to figure it out and i appreciate that but if this is the thing where the kicker the kickers on the 35 the kickoff coverage team is on the plus 40 the kickoff return team has nine guys in between the 30 and six six of the nine guys on the 35 yard line then two returners in a landing zone from the 20-yard line to the end zone, and the ball has to land in there, you would assume that there would be a lot more returns. You have to.

You can't fair catch it. You have to return it. If it lands in there, you have to return it. No fair dodging. It's football. If it doesn't land in there, it's either the 35 or the 40, most likely. Those sideline ones will be awesome because, like, deciding whether to catch the ball, say, at, like, the 15

when it's near in the sideline and might roll out going in or sometimes they'll stay in and roll out the back. The classic go out of bounds with your feet. Yeah, one foot out of bounds. And then reach in and grab it. Like Gunnar Olszewski did. Well, he did the opposite of that. Actually, he toe-tapped to keep his feet inbounds.

Yeah, but he was all jacked up. He was toe-dragged swag. Yeah, exactly. And it was a great toe-drag. It was sweet. He did it. I don't think – everybody thought he had to be out of bounds. Yeah.

But he was so good at the toe-drag swag, he was actually inbounds. Trying to get some wide receiver reps. In a time you don't want to have your feet inbounds. Yeah. Coach, watch this. So anyways, I think everybody gets the point of it, right? Yeah, absolutely. And if you just think about the visual, the only thing that might be confusing for people is the landing zone.

They could easily just put that in the TV copy. You know what I'm saying? Outline the landing zone. So it's like, hey, obviously, this is where they need it. Especially with the graphics, you just put a little different color grass. Yeah, they were fucking doing that with the first down. Remember they were having darker green? I'm like, hey, obviously, this is where they need it. Especially with the graphics, you just put a little different color grass. Yeah, they were fucking doing that with the first down. Remember they were having darker green? I'm like, damn, grass ain't that green.

What they were able to do. In the red zone, they'll change that. Bingo. I got it. Very doable. And then when an onside kick comes, the whole stadium. Yeah. You know, like, oh, it's an onside kick.

Feels like there'll be a lot of kick return touchdowns. There has to be an announcement because it won't be the coach trailing in the fourth office. The New England Patriots have chosen the onside kick! Yeah.

You can really start gassing that one up, you know. Chad Ryland hooks one into the stands. He gonna be the kickerer there was a time where the extra point was being uh oh no there was a time where the extra point was going to be eliminated before it went back to the third because it was just becoming ceremonial and we were asked for our ideas and i just you know just an asshole. I was like, it was what we needed. I wanted a stage that lifts up on a sideline. Whichever side you score on, like rugby,

score on the left side of the field, you have to kick from the left stage. It comes up. That'd be sick. Spotlight. You've got to kick from the side, from the angle on the other side. They didn't want... From an elevated stage that comes out from – so we're going to have to put four elevated stages under each field that raises up? Yes.

Yeah, we're trying to save the extra point or not. Yeah. It's easy. And every one of them – I'll tell you what. I'm not going to bring an umbrella to a brainstorm, as you say. I think it's a pretty good idea. I didn't say it.

The coach did. The soccer team. But I think if we're going to save the extra point, let's save it. Instead, they won with a 33-yard option. Yeah, which whatever. I think it has become. It did help. It has become an equalizer.

And that looked weird at the beginning. Just like this kickoff would look very weird. It's going to look super weird. It would look very weird. But if it means more returns, all about it. Yeah, kickoff return touchdowns feel so much more real with that type of scenario. And I'm just realizing this now. They're not even showing the kicker, are they?

No, he's not in the picture. No, they'll do the back shot. But they'll do that and they'll have it from behind the kicker and everyone will be on the screen at once. They will do that back shot. Big back shot. Huge. Kickers love those. They can pan the kick. You think? shot. Yeah, back shot. Sky kick. Big back shot. Huge.

Kickers love those. They can pan the kick. You think? Yeah. Yeah, the sky kick. I hope that happens. I do. I hope that happens.

I mean, they show the kicker now and where it lands, and it lands in the first row. Well, the kicker's with the rest of the team. Yeah. No, I know. But if they start, they can get it all in.

Dude, that is a shame, though, because now, like, Bucker's kicking a ball 95 yards. Like, his kickoffs are going that doesn't mean shit anymore so far that's why those safety ones though like if you do get us and granted like i don't think the chiefs are think worried about getting safeties all the time but hey can we show off buckers leg today we got a nice east to west wind area we we get a safety down here sprint back bucker probably put this one off the crossbar front of the 20.

It'd be the longest kick in the history of the NFL. So those are gone, seemingly, which is a shame because we're hitting them. The wind's going to change it, man. As a kicker, though, let's say you're trying to land it in that landing zone. Would you rather kick into the wind or the wind at your back? Both suck. Yeah, you're kind of screwed. Yeah, that's going to change a lot.

Like, imagine being the kicker. You've got to really figure, okay, here we go. So into the wind will hang it more, right? Just like everything? Like airplanes take off into the wind. Bingo. Yeah, that was almost a problem yesterday because we had a strong this way and none of the run was.

A lot of chops. Does the hanging even matter if nobody can move until someone catches it? Oh, yeah. You've just got to get it to the person, I guess. Yeah, so the hang time really doesn't even matter. So landing it at the one is the most important part. Bingo, yeah. You just got to get it to the person, I guess. Yeah, so the hang time really doesn't even matter. So landing it at the one is the most important part. Bingo, yeah. But if you're catching it at the one, are you letting that go

because of the chances of it going in the end zone? So you got to land at the three. Yeah. No, you got to land it at the one. Wait. And then if it lands at the one and goes in the end zone, you got to pick it up and go, right? Have to, or it's coming to the 20.

Yeah, just 20. So the ball has to land at the one. Who cares where anybody's catching it? Yeah. You've got to kick that ball like it's landing. That's the money ball. No matter what the hang time is. Hang time doesn't fucking matter.

Hang time means nothing, yeah. Just can you get it from the 35 or if they move it to the 30, depending upon what ends up being the whole thing. You've got to land at the one. You can hit a. Yeah, it doesn't matter how. Just get it to the one. Yeah.

Which means you would not want Windy to be back then because that's three feet away from. Yeah. What's the penalty if you leave early? Like either side. Dude, that's what I. Do we know? So I asked, so whistle when.

Guys are leaving. I mean, yeah. Can you imagine being on the kickoff return team? It's going to be tough not to leave early. Imagine on the kickoff. They're right in your face, though. The guys are right in your face. You've got to get back and try to block this dude.

Like, I think you're at a disadvantage trying to block those guys. Absolutely. They can just fly. No, guys running four twos, they just give you a little head shimmy and go right by you. Yeah, so, like, the 40-yard dash, a lot of football people make fun of it and go, when will you ever be in that position? There it is.

You're actually in that position, right? On the 40, too. You're on the 40. Yeah, going in. You are. So this is where direct speed goes right to your special. See, I would just have nine offensive linemen right at that 35 and just try to meet them.

Come and get it. Yeah. You're only five yards away. Can you make me miss in that five yards? Or a Red Rover situation where it's like, hey, if we have those six on the front and the four in the back or three in the back,

hey, there will be some that squeak through, so you just find those guys and then hopefully everyone can latch on for a second. Offer Turner can only block one person. We talked about that. No double teams with the Offer Turner. I think we covered it all. yeah it worked watch the last 30 minutes to really figure it out but we got there and it works they thought of a lot these special teams people working on for years right years and then they had

a full meeting of all the special teams coaches and assistants and they went through it and made some adjustments and changes and the went through it and made some adjustments and changes and the whole thing and it's like this the first time they've ever all been on board with something but think of all those special teams coaches who have just been trying to get a little so now there's a hypothetical rule that they're trying to think of how can i fuck this yeah how can i and then they're pitching it because they don't want somebody else to do it to them so they think they've got around everything. They think they've answered every single question, and hopefully they figure it out.

Good luck in there. Good luck. Good luck. For the good of football. That's right. Lead to more points. It feels like no matter what, that's going to lead to more points. More points, more plays.

More plays, yeah. Boom. Kickers kind of becoming, you know. No, no, no. You got to have pinpoint accuracy now as the kickoff guy. more plays. Kickers kind of becoming... No. You've got to have pinpoint accuracy now as the kickoff guy. Now it's even more of an advantage to have a better kicker.

Better feel. I mean, you're throwing darts. Starting at the 40, if you think about how many touchbacks there are. Dude perfect. I hope the Pat signed Kyle. So, Kyle. Tyler? Tyler and Kyle.

Come on. And Purple. I love them. It's hard to remember all their fucking names. They're awesome. All of them are awesome. Awesome one with the beard. Tyler. Bingo. Tyler. He's talented at everything. I'm not saying him. Let's say trickshotters as a whole. the dude perfect generation.

So you just see how far you throw it, and then you just put a can down. It's like, all right, I just need to go full throw here, and it's going to do the science itself. Yeah, but you talk about it. You got to hit it on that spot every single time. You got wind too, though. Yeah, wind. I mean, the indoor stadiums definitely have a huge advantage

versus Bass and Buffalo. In this particular case, yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Because you would think, well, the wind, nobody ever talks about having the wind at your back for half the game. That never happens in an indoor game. An indoor game is just you and the ball, pretty much.

That's how it is. Wind in the ball, pretty much. You know, that's how it is. Winning the face-off being there is certainly great, too, but how often does that happen versus cross wins and the whole conversation around the stadium? Yeah. But not having to worry about hang time at all. Yeah. Like, at all.

You just got to get it there, pretty much. Mm-hmm. There's going to be baby-like kickers coming in the league. Yep. I saw that kick field goal. Yeah, they won't last. Yeah, but they're accurate. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, so. Will it be its own thing? Their own position? They're not carrying a third kickoffer? No way. Unless they had a. Yeah, don't they? If they had a roster spot.

Yeah. No. If they had a roster spot, you're going to sign another running back or something. Not unless you got a kicker who can fucking pinpoint it down at the one every single time. What's this guy do? His max kick no matter what lands at the one. Every single time. Wind, no wind, indoors.

This guy had this talent since he was 12 years old. Didn't know what to do with it. Then we made this rule and it's now is his time. Unless it's a 29-hour wind in your face that day and he can't get it to 20, that's a real issue. So that is, because my immediate thought was, we've got to back that up to the 30.

Me, as somebody who tries to kick the ball far, like 35. We're trying to land it in the 20. Let's back that up to the 30, especially with how strong guys are right now. Can we get a little bit more room? And I guess that was brought up, but then there's some weather days where it's like, for half a game, if we're staring down a 40-mile-an-hour win,

we don't want to – you're not just going to fucking ruin the hole. You get the ball at the 40 every single – that's a wild predicament that could be cooking there. Yeah. Well, good luck. Figure it out. Good luck. Figure it out.

Anything happen in franchise tag as we broke down the new kickoff rules? Nothing. We've got 30 minutes left. What are we doing? Are we staying for this whole thing? Pittman has been tagged. Yeah, everyone who was projected to be tagged has been tagged. Michael Pittman Jr. as a

franchise tag brethren of yours here in the Indianapolis Colts this is happening probably because ownership and people in high places say, yeah you guys can't figure that's not my fault you are you are on the pulse that's potentially what happened in my situation whenever i got franchise tag a man who i'm hearing is doing much better right now which is good news

for everybody around indianapolis said brother is not he's a cult that is how this is going to go so i got franchise tag the next morning. Michael Pittman Jr., everybody in the city wants him to be a cult. Hopefully they're able to figure out the business. Congrats on $21.8 million at least going into your pocket. Very cool. There is silver lining here. You're getting $20-some million if you sign that franchise tag, Michael Pittman Jr.

We appreciate the hell out of you. He's going to. They could still get a deal done, right? Doesn't he have up until July something to sign a long-term deal? Yeah, there is a date that comes quickly, seemingly, for all franchise tag people and then passes. And then it just kind of goes on. But there have been deals that have been finished and completed.

Allegedly, the Colts and Michael Pittman Jr. were trying very hard to get a deal done. So the franchise tag just guarantees that they have more time to try to finish that deal is how I'm viewing this. And they probably have dead cap from Shaq Leonard, I assume, right? So maybe that's something. And also, they paid their offensive linemen. Those cap hits are probably growing

a little bit, so maybe next year is just a better year to do it. How much money do the Colts have? That's a good question. How much money do the Colts have in salary cap next year? I mean, they have paid guys. They do pay people. That is a real question. How much money do the Colts have in salary cap next year? I mean, they have paid guys. They do pay people. That is a real thing, especially the guys they draft. Indianapolis Colts have 73-9.

Oh, boy, I'd be pissed. What? Are you fucking kidding me? They're top five. This is the year to pay them, right? Yeah, they're top fucking five in cap space, and they're not going to pay them? What are we doing?

Man. They're going to pay them. They'll pay them. That's what they said. What do you mean, going to pay him. What are we doing? Come on. They're going to pay him. They'll pay him. That's what they said. What do you mean going to? Do the deal. You got $73.9 million. No wide receivers go to the market anymore.

You can't just give a guy money, though, because you have space. That's what they said. They said we have the money. We're going to get a deal done. We weren't able to do it by 4 o'clock on a Tuesday. Mulgata probably won't say fully guaranteed. You're right. I'm calling Mulgata. You should call Mulgata. And I hope Mulologata probably won't say fully guaranteed. You're right. I'm calling Mologata.

You should call Mologata. And I hope Mologata picks up and says, yeah, your fucking team won't give us what we want. And what happens if Pittman goes out and gets hurt? God forbid. There's no way Mologata answers. What if he wants $30 million a year? This would be the first time

that I'm FaceTiming him ever. Can you mute this? I don't even know. No, you just saw him at... This would be the first time that I'm FaceTiming him ever. Keep me at this. I don't even know. No, you saw him at... These can't be on either. You saw him at the All-Star game. They do. Come on.

We get a deal done or what? Actually, any microphone in the office probably is... All right, dead meat. He's busy. What am I thinking? It's franchise tag day. Yeah, but he's probably tearing apart his office that he couldn't get a deal. He can't be doing other deals because you can't be tampering until Monday.

How cool did he look at that celebrity all-star game? He's supposed to be in those situations at all times. On the court, looking cool. Just walking around, talking to people, moving, shaking. I don't know how publicly he told me, so I'm going to say he owns a bunch of shoe stores, too. Oh, really? Yeah, like he's... He's a weapon.

A weapon. Like, legit. He sent me Travis Scott's after the Radio Row hit where he said I made him look cool or whatever. He said, thanks for being so nice. He just sent me a pair of Travis Scott's. I'm like, just sent him random shoes. I didn't know the connection. So it wasn't until the Celebrity All-Star game when he was like, thanks for the shoes, man. He's like, oh, I got shoe stores, actually's. I'm like, just send random shoes. I didn't know the connection. So it wasn't until the Celebrity All-Star game when he was like, thanks for the shoes, man. He's like,

oh, I got shoe stores, actually. And I'm like, of course you do. Yeah, those are impossible to get those shoes he sent you to. Of course you do. He's the fucking best, this guy. Seriously. We need him negotiating deals with other countries. Yeah. You know? Just run for president, Dave. Help us.

Yeah, Dave. Help us all, Dave. Figure it out. Please. First say it. How old is he? Is he even old enough? Is he 35? I have no idea how old he is.

He looks young. He does look young. First day of this presidential race is week 15. Panthers and Bucks was all time. Yeah. Bill. Bill fucking. Spot on.

He's the best. He said a lot of things. I can't wait to go back and re-listen to all of them. I mean, everything he said about DeFleke was true. There is an argument in that. Those are all facts. Yeah, but he just holds the entire, like, do you know how many people in Indianapolis wanted that?

Oh, yes. No, no, no. I completely acknowledge that. But his war, although he did aim his sights at Indianapolis, I thought that the baseline of who's at fault here was the NFL when he went back to the whole corporation and them getting pissed. It didn't feel like that when he was saying it, did it? No, no.

No, he's angry. His definition of dynasty is interesting. I mean, he was just saying that just to be – Because he said Yankees three and four years, but the Chiefs just did three and four and they're not. The Chiefs could go three in a row, which would definitely be, in his eyes, a dynasty. That was like the opposite of every time he's been on, too.

Usually he has to warm up, but this time he was in. He heard us say that. He probably heard us say that. He's a fucking asshole. At the end, he hated it. He said, all right, McAfee. He's like Sun Tzu on a war. Like, oh, this is what they think. Boom.

Your condescending question. Disguise as a compliment. Good take on steroids, though. Yeah, you did used to grow a tail and kill everybody. Suicide by cop. Suicide by cop. Those guys are heroes.

Skinny pigs. They're trying new stuff stuff I just watched a clip lotions on their face yeah these guys he's his brain and all his podcast is just him ranting yeah it's incredible it's incredible yeah just sitting there all by himself just and then boom right into it who knows where i guess he does but anywhere could possibly get that's why his stand-up shows are fucking awesome yeah movies too that old dad's is a really good movie helicopter pilot his life yeah yeah he flies around yeah drummer plays the drums as well yeah he's boxing now. Remember the movie with Pete Davidson?

That stash he had in the Pete Davidson King of Staten Island? That was a good one. That was a good movie. It is Trash Island. For the record. What, do you live on Long Island? No, no, Staten Island we're talking about. Yeah, but that's what people from on Long Island say, right? They say

Staten Island's Trash Island. I think anyone who's been to Staten Island says, yeah, it's a trash island. Holy shit. I think I saw a movie about the actual trash island. In the Pacific? Yeah. The fucking island that's of plastic. Are you just learning about Trash Island?

No, no, no. I know about Trash Island. I'm talking about one in New York. Oh, okay. About the whore. It was like a whore. I'm talking about the Pacific. They ship all the trash to that dump, right?

Yeah, I'm talking about that. There was some Slenderman type thing that was living around there. Don't like that. It was a documentary horror dateline. My wife loves them. Somebody's dying. Did you guys watch that Lover Killer Stalker Killer thing?

Just missed it. Craziest human ever exists. in my eye, I think. Really? Did you watch Frogging? I forgot to watch Frogging. So definitely watch lover killer stalker. Frogging was the people that live in your house while you live there. I don't like that.

This person would have done that, but that would have been like amateur stuff for her. Walk in the park. Nick, you watched it, right? I did watch it, yeah. Craziest person of all time? Easily, hands down. Like, assumed identity, murdered a person,

had pictures of AJ Hawk on their phone, burned own pets? Multiple identities. What? Killed own pets? So, American Killer? Or whatever that one was about the guy who, like the Gone Girl thing? That was just like, weird. I didn't think that was that great. Yeah, that guy was just like weird. You're talking about the Creeper one?

Yeah, that guy was just... He was in Lake Tahoe. This person's weirder than killers that cut off people's heads and store them in their fridge and then cook them for dinner. So those are like... Is Colonel Mustard in it? Those are like... I don't think Colonel Mustard's in it.

You're thinking of the cop from... Detective Matt Mustard. Cop of the year.. Detective Matt Musker. Detective Musker. Cop of the year. Colonel of the year. That guy. What a piece of trash. Anyway, this lady crazy. Not serial killer.

So like a different type of psychotic. Unhinged. Like human just walking amongst us that you would not. Different category for sure. Yeah. Should we just spoil it? No. Like a sociopath.

I'll watch it tonight. You spoil it. It's the most crazy human I've ever. I've like sure. Yeah. Should we just spoil it? No. Like a sociopath. I'll watch it tonight and you just spoil it. It's the most crazy human I've ever... What the fuck? That's saying a lot because there's a lot of crazy people out there. I mean that Dahmer. Like Dahmer. That's not... That's Serial. She's not an actual serial killer.

Yeah, she's a psycho. Yeah. Biggest psycho of all time. Okay. But did kill. You think she was born that way? A lot of times they are watching this feels like this was developed over some real hateful

it was in there though it had to be in there and something turned it off we're talking like thousands of text messages in emails like daily to multiple people we're talking like

putting in real work here to be a psychopath a lot of effort yeah while having a whole nother relationship and thing popping oh she was she was like i'll find you to the 1000th degree the most of all time i got it now i don't have to watch i know no no i don't think you do it. I know it now. No, I don't think you do. You guys just explained it. You guys did so good. Tell me what she did in the park. You guys did so good at explaining it without explaining it.

Killed her pet and then kidnapped a guy. No, she actually shot herself. Oh. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. With? Okay. Just.

In the head? No. I think it was. That was the leg. Oh, wow. Yeah, right in the leg. Jesus? Okay. Just. In the head? No. That was the leg. Oh, wow. Yeah, right in the leg. Jesus Christ. Oh, is that the clip that showed on the trailer? Potential.

I didn't see the trailer. Okay. But yeah, she shot her. Like, that's how crazy we're talking. Okay. Burnt their own house down. Was it a flesh wound or? We're just spoiling it now.

Through and through. This lady, okay, she goes on a date with a guy. Yeah. I'm not saying it. I'm not saying it. He's been out for months. Not looking for anything serious. Just want to turn wrench this guy. This guy just wanted to turn.

He was a mechanic. All he wanted to do was turn wrench. This guy just wanted to turn. It's a fucking wrench. Keep it cash. This guy moves. To follow his ex-wife and his kid. He's weird, too. No, cool guy.

No, he's not weird. He's a cool guy. I just want to turn wrench. I just want to turn wrench. It's not like he followed his ex-wife. It's a restraining order against him. No, ex-wife, old part of it. I mean, ex-wife, good person.

Okay. Is that right? Kid, good person. And now there's a kid growing up without a dad. Whoa. Easy. Easy. I hope not. Because of this's a kid growing up without a dad? Whoa. Easy. Easy. I hope not.

Because of this gal? No. That guy's still turning around. She's a pretty big part of the whole thing. I think if anything, he and his family are probably closer together now than ever. I think so, too. Which pissed off, I mean. Oh, no.

She was not happy. Antagonized. Yeah, said. This guy just wanted to turn around and show him a hall in Nebraska. Why do you keep saying it like that? Because that's what he said. This guy just wanted a turn wrench in Omaha, Nebraska. Why do you keep saying it like that? Because that's what he said. Just want a turn wrench. That's literally what he said.

That's what all the guys that turn wrench say, AJ. You wouldn't get it. You've never met somebody that turns wrench, dude? I have. That's not how they characterize their job. Here's the guy that turns wrench in a store. That guy reeks of turning wrench. Here's the guy that turns around to the store. That guy reeks of turning around. He's actually too cool.

The moral of the story is this guy's too fucking cool. I didn't know that Walmart Al Borland was the guy that was involved in this. This guy ain't a fucking TV character. I don't think so, Diggs. With that shirt on, dude. He couldn't carry Al's jock. I love him.

He had a couple different locations of talking. Always cool okay just wanted to turn a wrench was the relationship ever a real relationship this crazy gal was it a serious relationship or is she just like a fling that she took to sir you're you watched it that's what i hear sounds like a fair sounds like i have turned his wrench inside her and maybe the guy can guy can crank a little bit. She'd love the wrench. I think.

From my understanding. Tell me if you interpret it this way too, Pat. Seemingly, the two ladies met for a couple minutes. Ten seconds. Oh, no. Like 30 seconds to a minute. And that led to an entire lifetime of stalking and harassment and a murder. There was another relationship, a family.

There's a lot. Wait, over how many years did this happen? You said it like that. A couple, three years, three years, four years. Oh, that's tough. God damn. Did anyone ever try to take care of her? Who's that?

Who the fuck is that? Can you just spoil it for us? That's not the guy we've heard of. Beginning to end. Is that the lady? I want to know what happened. You need to watch it. I's not the guy who's turning red. We're beginning to end. Is that the lady? I want to know what happened. You need to watch it. I'm not going to watch it.

I know I won't watch it. I respect a restaurant that has an old school catch-up. Is that Dave without a beard? That guy needs to turn some reds and fucking just move on with his life. That's not the same guy as the beard guy. No, you can't also in your life wear Aeropostale and a leather jacket. Yeah, you ain't turning red wearing Aeropostale and a leather jacket. You ain't turning red wearing Aeropostale. Pick one.

That's hilarious. Is that the gal? I think that's the gal. Actually, we got fucking 17 minutes. We'll weigh it up. Should we spoil it? Are we getting dead while we wait? We'll do that tomorrow. We're doing journalism tomorrow.

Good tease. Please don't spoil it. I saw the trailer for this We'll do that tomorrow. We're doing journalism tomorrow. Because right now we're just... Please don't spoil it. I saw the trailer for this while we were on break and I was like, okay, I really want to watch this. I haven't got around to it yet. I think we teased it pretty good. Yeah, it seems like we kind of already know what happened.

But I still would like to kind of fill in the gaps. A lot has happened. There's a lot of mysterious turrets. There is. How many episodes? It's one. There's a lot of mysterious turns. There is. How many episodes? It's one. Is he a single guy? I think it was two.

47-minute episodes, maybe? Yeah, two or three. I can't remember exactly. Perfectly done. Yeah, that's a sweet spot. I like that. Are there 10 episodes of the Patriots then? Yeah.

Yeah, Conor's watched three and has already judged them. That's a lot. They only come out two every week, so there's six out right now. And you watch half of them. And I've watched the first three, yep. Bill did not answer one time about the time. That's literally all I was asking. For what, 40 minutes?

Yeah. Does he know? He probably hasn't seen it. Did he say he saw it? I didn't know. I watched the first four episodes and I haven't seen him yet. He's in the first episode. Is he? Yeah. I missed it? I didn't know. I watched the first four episodes, and I haven't seen him yet. He's in the first episode. Is he?

Yeah. I missed it. Part of the montage. They're just quick. They did a bunch of people in the first one. I wonder when they'll drop him in. Probably Deflake it. I assume he's.

Yeah, it sounds like it. Yeah, it's his take. He might have just ran it back. What episode is Hernandez? He is episode five. Five. Yeah. Spygate's over.

Don't you think people are. The patrons were so, like with Bill, they're so secretive and didn't give any information. So that's what makes people like, that's what makes you curious because we don't know anything about it. And the clips I saw from the dynasty practice clips, mic'd up clips in the building. Sweet. They like remastered game clips too,

that look incredible. Like it's some, the archival footage is awesome. Yeah. His old partner just won't watch it. No, it's not true. I will. It just, it grinds Connor just won't watch it. No, that's not true. I will.

It just grinds my gears to fucking watch it. I heard Lambeau's pissed about it. I heard Lambeau, he's pissed. I bet he is. Call Lambeau back. They're fucking killing Bill. Anything that is bad that happened in New England was Bill's fault. And anything that is good was Bill, but mostly everybody else.

So it's a documentary to make one person look bad. It's a documentary. That's a look bad. It's a documentary in a joke, right? Is that a new thing? It's definitely to paint one person. Has Lambeau seen Married Bitch Kill? What? Psycho killer stalker. Stop disrespecting this.

He's the one. I'm trying to fix it. That's basically what it is. Lambeau, have you seen this killer lover stalker thing on Netflix? I've not watched one instant of it. Not one. I mean, I haven't seen any of it. Hair looks good.

Hair looks good. You look good. The lady is the craziest human. We're just trying to kill time until the franchise tag deadline. 14 minutes. Did everyone get time? I love killing time with you. I'm fine.

No problem. I got no problem. I'm just sitting here. It's all good. Craziest woman of all time. Literally. Okay. She's not have no problem. I got no problem. I'm just sitting here. It's all good. Craziest woman of all time. Literally. She's not a serial killer. She's not a cannibal. Up there.

For humans, like psycho. Maybe got to that point. We don't know. She's locked. We don't know. Don't want to spoil it. Hey, you watch this Dynasty thing on Apple? No, I haven't watched one minute of it. I hear it slanted so far in one direction that I just didn't want to.

I mean, you know, I heard that I get texts from people that watch it, but I have not. Connor hates it. I'm sure he does. It's just bullshit, Lombok. It's not true. It's not true. It's not about it not being true and stuff.

Like, sure, I'm sure there are things in there That are completely bullshit Or factual But if you title something Dynasty You would think that you get the good things That come with the Dynasty You still have seven episodes But you can see what they're about

Next episode, Spygate, Wash That's not about anything good Episode after that is Hernandez, Wash That's not everything good The Spygate one does go into When Randy got there though That's not about anything good. Episode after that is Hernandez. Wash. That's not everything good. Wow, that was super serious. The Spygate one does go into when Randy got there, though, and them just going Scorsese and all those guys talk. That episode actually is awesome.

They had a lot of Drew Bledsoe, too, talking about how when Tom came in and took over his role. That was interesting to hear his takes on that. They skipped over the fact that they – Dynasty, let's talk about the guy before the Dynasty for two episodes. That's smart. They skipped over the game plan to stop the Rams, the greatest show on turf. They never mentioned that.

They never mentioned the 0-3-0-4 teams, which were dominant. I mean, look, it's written. There's a reason for it. It's like, if you're willing to buy into it, then go ahead. There's no balance to it whatsoever. If you want the Patriots' actual dynasty, just watch

Man in the Arena. The one that Brady made, that is just about... Yeah, he did produce it, and it's all him, but that is just about the football. Sure, they don't go into – they touch Spygate, but it's five minutes, and then they don't go into Hernandez. And there are things like that that you don't get out of it that you will get in Dynasty.

But as a Patriots fan, like, no, it's not really good for you. All right, let's talk – because I didn't get to ask you earlier because you were joining us right before Bill Burr won on A. I saw that. I saw that. That was great. He went on at 30-minute. He had an agenda, wasn't he?

Oh, yeah. He knew what he wanted to talk about. He was ready to come in. I didn't get to check him as much, and I don't know if there will be as much pushback in that entire thing. I think I heard Steve do an interview. Steve Belichick did an interview with Chris Long. Chris Long, because they obviously know each other from Chris Long.

Chris Long, what a stud, by the way. He's got everything he's doing. Big fan. Long family love it. Steve Belichick, I did not listen to the episode. Steve Belichick talked about Bill Belichick joining him in Washington. Is Bill Belichick about to scheme college football? No, but I think he and Jed Fish have always had a really good relationship.

Jed was on the staff for a while. Now with Steven out there and his grandkids, I'm sure he's going to spend some time. I know that he's going to be out there in April spending some time watching some stuff. But, look, I don't think he's going to. I think he's working on a few things that will probably keep him busy outside of having to study all that. But I'm sure he's going to pay attention to it. It would be hilarious. Just, Steve, what a weapon.

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. That's the amazing thing is, you know, it's like when you go back and watch the – if you go back and watch, like, the Super Bowl, before we hired Belichick in 91 in Cleveland, they played the Bills in that Super Bowl. And the Bills were great. I mean, obviously they missed the kick or else they win the game, but what they did to

Thurman Thomas, and if you go back and listen to the game and watch the game, it's really kind of remarkable how the Giants played defense that day, were able to win that game against a far superior Buffalo Bills team, but like when they get into this documentary, you don't hear anything of the coaching. It's all about, you all about certain individuals did certain things, which is why they won. Not Bill, though. Not Bill. Don't forget that, Lambo.

Bill was – it's interesting. Bill must have been on vacation for about 20 years of the 24 he was there. Well, Lambo, we appreciate your loyalty, by the way. I mean, I, by the way. Yeah. Andrew information. I mean, I was in the building. I look, as I told Skip Bayless,

when he started tweeting about stuff, unless you've been in that building, unless you've been around the football, talk to any football, put Nick Saban on this show, put anybody who's been around the guy. Like it's comical that actually people can dismiss them as not football wise. I mean,

like I learned more football from him in, in a week than you can learn in a lifetime. I mean, like, I learned more football from him in a week than you can learn in a lifetime. I mean, it's remarkable. But they just dismiss it because nobody has a conversation with them. And, you know, I think that's partly the problem. And the fact that what they built there is hard to duplicate six Super Bowls. Yeah, well, Bill Burr said it was best team of the decade for back-to-back decades, not a dynasty, though. Yeah, well, Bill Burr said it was best team of the decade for back-to-back decades.

Not a dynasty, though. Yeah, that's right. His description was wild hearing him say that. Three and four, that's, you know, that's a dynasty. Do we think Pittman's getting, do we think Pittman's getting franchised? Because I think he is if they don't get a deal done. They did. They already did.

Okay. How about, how about the Huff kid from the Jets? Did he get franchised? No, not not nothing yet we didn't hear anything on the jets chef he didn't even allude to that yesterday they just said mckinney well there's a lot of stuff going on there on him he's a he was probably the hottest guy at indy uh and you know at 10 sacks last year the jets were trying to you know i think the jets know there's another team that's going to sign him. I think the Jets are fully aware of that.

And so there was some conversation that maybe they would franchise him to get some compensation back. But I would say Monday at 1 o'clock, whenever the tampering can start, I think Huff probably will get a deal done rather quickly. So can you trade franchise tag? I don't remember. They just have the right to match or something? How does that work? You could trade.

He could sign the tender. Then you trade him. Then you redo the contract. But that doesn't because the franchise tag happens. The team that tagged him has the ability to match. Is that right? No, that's that transitional thing, right? The franchise trade, you know, the franchise one, if you exclusive where you can't talk

to him, then there's the one you can based on compensation, and then there's the transitional one, which is what we saw with Kyle Duggar today, where they can match, but they get no compensation if they don't match. Pittman non-exclusive franchise tag, is that what every franchise tag is? Yeah. No, there is the exclusive one. That's the one that costs a little bit more money. They all cost different levels of money okay so colts go non-exclusive here from joel a erickson we appreciate him colts go non-exclusive franchise tag under non-exclusive tag pitman can negotiate

with other teams and if he gets an offer elsewhere indy can either match the deal or get two first round picks from his new team this was the lamarar Jackson, right? Yes. Yeah, same thing. First time Colts have used tags since 2013. Shout out. Now, this one here, as you get, obviously, compensation, this one's less than if you would put the exclusive tag on, which is very expensive. So, like, $21.8 million is what he's making with the wide receiver non-exclusive franchise tag.

The exclusive one is what, $24.25? Something like that i don't know but right in front of me but but like that's a deal where the colts could say to him look you know here's where we're going to go with this we've got three years out here's the kind of money and you could make a deal and see if that could happen i think what happened when the cap went up a lot of teams thought they were going to get deals done with some of these guys but the cap going higher really created a bigger market and thought they were going to get deals done with some of these guys, but the cap going higher really created a bigger market, and obviously they're going to get paid.

Like Christian Wilkins, I think this guy, you know, if you're buying stock in a player by stocking this guy, he's going to make a fortune in the open market because there's very few three techniques that make it to the market, or two techniques, or whatever you want to call his ass, you know, that can rush the passer. And don't misplace. Why would they not tag him, Lombo? Like, what's the issue there? Well, Gump, I think, is your guy.

They're saving all their pennies for your quarterback. Nice. They're going to pay your quarterback. You know, they got to pay your quarterback. They're over the cap. This guy had 10 sacks for him. Their two defensive tackles had almost doubled it. They almost had 20 sacks in Miami last year. Yeah but chubb and phillips will be back like halfway through

the season next year long we'll be fine dumpy is very distraught about this christian like he's our he's our heart and soul of our team legitimately i don't think you know so i can give you some background they were at 19 they offered him about 192, and he wanted a little over 20, and they couldn't get an agreement, and they just kind of walked away from the table. But you're going to get – Tua's going to be one of the highest-paid quarterbacks in the league. $100,000. Yeah. You know, what happens is, Pat, you get that close, right, and then you dig in,

and then I think really what nobody anticipates, well, nobody's going to pay that. Like, if I had a nickel for every time I heard somebody tell me, oh, nobody's going to pay that. Like if I had a nickel for every time I heard somebody tell me, oh, nobody's going to pay that, and then you turn around and they pay it. So now I don't want to go back to Michael Pittman, but like the Colts potentially tell him here's our best offer. If you can go find another one that's better, we'll either match it or that team has to give up two ones for a lot of people. No, you can negotiate it down.

You can negotiate it down. If you blindly just sign him to an offer sheet, you're committing two ones. That's the Keyshawn Johnson deal. But if you just go ahead and do the deal and say, look, you know, Chris Ballard's not going to ask for two ones, but I'm sure he's going to want a high draft pick for the guy. So if you're going to sign him to that deal, you're going to have to pay. See, that's the problem.

You sign the player, and then you've got to give up a high pick. Christian Wilkins coming right back here to Indianapolis. Nah, nah, nah. Is that why he's almost – Him and DeForest Buckner. Oh, yeah. That'll go over real well. No, I think he has – like, to me, and I don't know this.

This is speculative on my part. Paying anybody. Like, that sounds like a Jacksonville Jaguars deal out of the box. To who? Wilkins. Wilkins. And the reason I say that is because they got cap room. They can do it.

And then the other thing is, we talked a little bit about this on the show, but Bill Burr had it come on. But the tax implications in those tax-free states really make a difference, you know? You guys know you give up a lot of cash if you go from a tax-free to a highly taxed state. I live in the Garden State. We pay a lot of taxes here. Why, I don't know, but we do.

I live here. You're helping. You're helping. Remember, tax dollars are all going to the right places. Always. Right? Yep. That's what I hear.

Going in the boss's pocket. That's Right? Yep. That's what I hear. Going in the boss's pocket. That's what I hear. That's what I know. Is Wilkins going to come to New England, Lambeau? Is he going to consider? Are we going to owe him? I mean, I would think if I were in New England, I would be for. I mean, look, how many times has a defensive tackle who's got almost 10 sacks,

can stop the run, can play three, can play against every formation in football, how many times does he make it to the open market? He doesn't. He loves ball, too. He literally never misses a snap in a game. Why wouldn't you tag him? Ever. Tua. We're the Dolphins, man. This is what we do.

No, you guys are good. We're not. Number one team in the NFL PA report card. Great facilities. Lunchroom's good. Yeah, good weather. I mean, if you're not going to pay the guy you drafted who defines what your team is, who will you? Like, you have to pay your all.

You have to pay your all. They got to get Tua done. They got to get Tua done. That's the thing. They got to get Tua done. And they made a choice. You know, they got a lot of money at receiver. So they're going to do it.

Waddle coming up too. It's not like that. That's going to be a massive contract as well. Tua's going to get 50, 55 million a year. It has to. And Waddle will get 30. You talked about Jackson. I'm just guessing. It kind of fits their profile. Calvin Ridley now

is about to hit the market, right? Because they tagged Josh Allen. He'll make some good money. I mean, look, I was surprised Mike Evans didn't get closer to 30 per year. Now, I haven't seen the contract. You know, we've got to be careful. When we read these contract numbers, they're never right. Well, actually, we just learned from Florio. 29 guaranteed with six the next year.

29 million, 6 injury. That's where the 35 million comes from. It's two years, 29 million pretty much. For 6, on a two-year deal like that, if you're Mike Evans, you're like, that 6 is going to get guaranteed. You're not cutting Mike Evans. He's not going to have a bad year.

The thing is, what the club said to him is, look, we can't skill an injury. We'll injury it so nothing happens to you. You'll get the money. I mean, the club fully intends to give him the six money because Mike Evans isn't going to have a bad year where you're going to cut him after one year. All right. It's like guaranteeing a guy that makes you're going to guarantee the guy the

first year of the contract. Well, why am I signing you if I don't guarantee the first year of the contract? Yeah, we're not just signing him, but we'll see this year. And then next year we'll see. And then third year guaranteed. Third year's guaranteed. Why wouldn't you sign Christian Wilkins? Well, we also just released Jerome Baker.

So, I mean, we might not even have enough for a defense, to be honest. Where's Van Gink? Devinke is a free agent, too. Oh, no. They got a break with the cap, though, Pat. They were about $50 million over the cap, and with the new cap, they kind of got some relief. But they're going to have to do some cutting to do what they need to do

to get down below it. Dolphins are releasing starting linebacker Jerome Baker, per source. The two sides discussed a restructured contract but couldn't reach an agreement. The fans are dead. Son of a bitch. Dolphins left the door open to him coming back, though. Bring him home. You know what I mean?

That door, that door, that coming back, that means so when an agent doesn't take the restructure, he knows he's got something better out there. Bring him home. Oh, no. Good run. Hey, they still scored 70 against the Broncos Made the playoffs back to back years 8 weeks straight they were the

10 weeks almost They need to get a home playoff They need to have home field advantage Through the playoffs They know that this year Not happening No chance I'll bet you it will not happen

We literally do not have a defense Chubb, Phillips both out Yeah, let's see what happens. I'll bet you it will not happen. We literally do not have a defense. Chubb, Phillips, both out. Howard. X is gone. Ogba's gone. Baker's gone. Wilkins is gone.

We literally do not have a defense. Oh, my God. Uncle Dan to pony up some of that M&M's money and get some of these guys to come home. Send it. It's 4 o'clock Eastern Standard Time. Franchise tag window has closed for these teams. And I feel like we've covered it really good. Oh, yeah.

Locked in on the tag. I didn't know the Patriots tagged Duggar, though. That's great news. That happened early. That's fantastic. Well, I think what happened with Duggar is they heard that Duggar was going to get money in the market. I think what happens when you go to Indy, right, you get a sense of where your players are

and what it's going to cost you. And when you're negotiating with that agent, the agent's telling you he can get this deal. Now, nobody's tampering. I'm not accusing anybody of anything. Of course. Yeah, yeah. And they know he can get this deal, and you're kind of seeing if, should I call this bluff or not? And then you feel like, no, he's not bluffing. All right, screw it. We'll just tag deal, and you're kind of seeing if, should I call this bluff or not, and then you feel like, no,

he's not bluffing. All right, screw it. We'll just tag him, and we'll keep him. One of the best players the Patriots have, bar none. Yeah. Best tackler for sure. All right, well, congrats to you guys keeping him around for another year. Maybe a deal gets done.

Yeah, hopefully. I mean, you got so much cap. Made the football gods universe basketball. Michael Pittman's going to get a deal done. Yep. Congrats to Josh Allen getting guaranteed money to going to get a deal done. Yep. Congrats to Josh Allen getting guaranteed money going to get a deal done. Yep. T. Higgins probably not going to get a deal done over there in Cincinnati.

No. They said Winfield Jr. most likely going to get a deal done. There we go. Nice. Hey, it's a friendly. Dalton Schultz. Dalton Schultz gets a new deal, doesn't he? Yeah.

36 million. Yep. Yeah. Good for him down there with C.J. Stroud. Young quarterback can pay people. Just like Russell Wilson at one point. But Houston's been paying people, Pat. Houston's number two last year in cash spending.

Houston's been paying people for three years. That holder's been spending money. Last year he finally got rewarded. He's been praying. Did bring up Easterby in the Houston Texans suite. Nice. I did ask about Easterby. Did they all stop and drop to a knee?

I did ask if he was around, and they said no. And then we went on a full rant about how much we love him. Did he bless you, Lombo? Because he was into it. Yeah, did you know Easterby? I know Jack very well. Yeah, I know Jack. I know Jack really well.

Jack was very good for us in New England, was good about team morale, did a lot of great things there when I was there. When he started drawing on the dry erase board saying, hey, this is what we need to do. This is where we need to go. This is the strategy we need to have. I didn't see that. When I was there, I didn't see that thing there, so I have no idea what they're talking about on that one.

I would like to talk to him one time just to say, what's real? What is it? You want me to get them for you? I'll get you hooked up to them. Oh, yes. You can get it done you want me to get them for you i'll get you hooked up to him oh yes jack used to be you get it done tomorrow can you see walk for us yeah because i seen him yeah i seen crit walk like he was jesus christ on the wall yeah it was a red fish blue fish i think you would i i think you would enjoy the conversation van noy brought him up as like one of the highlights of new england while he was there he was i, he did a tremendous job when he was there. You know, look, sometimes when you get put in positions where you make decisions,

people get mad at you because of the decisions you make. That doesn't make you a bad person. That was gospel there. That was great. All right, we appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Michael Lombardi. Anytime. I'm here for you.

Appreciate you, buddy. All right, let's get the hell out of here. Long show today. Had to do it. Good one. Hey, I was in a wedding that Easterby the hell out of here. Long show today. Had to do it. Good one. Hey, I was in a wedding that Easterby actually was the officiant. What?

Who was it? How was it? Was it the greatest? When was this? Mary and Joseph? I'm pretty, I'm 99% sure it was Easterby, and it was my brother-in-law, Brady, who got married, and Jack Easterby was the guy. Of course, Brady Quinn would have Jack Easterby. You don't know for sure?

Yeah, how do you not know? I'm 99% sure, but I'm pretty sure. How do you not know? This was like 2012, 13, whenever it was. I remember sweating, standing

up there, and I'm pretty sure because he was... Jack was vibing. This guy's got a great message. Holy shit. Is he operating from the same Bible everybody else is? Doesn't sound like it. He's off the top of his head. This guy's phenomenal. This guy's going to run a team someday.

Mm-hmm. I just looked it up on the internet. It's true. Wow. I didn't need AJ. Where the fuck have you been? We had a full Jack Easterby, didn't we, in the last five years? Oh, my.

We had shirts. I'm a Jack Easterby guy with his face on it. Hey, you learned something new every day. You're such a prick, dude. I just thought about it. I thought it was Easterby. I didn't know him at the time. Brady was on a team with him somewhere. Brady Quinn did not answer. But he's working out.

He has like seven shows he does. Where's Eastbury? There he is. Right there. Holy shit. Is that him? Are we sure? You tell me, AJ.

That's him. I know like 80 bald people who look like that. That's Slenderman? That's Scott Van Pelt? That's half of my uncles. Golly, what did Brady Quinn do to get to heaven?

You know what I mean? Immediately. No kidding. Did Jack Eastbury doby doing your wedding? That's a one-way trip. Guaranteed ticket. You're in. I can't wait to talk to Jack Eastby. He's definitely heard us, I assume. I assume so.

That's why I learned it's combine. Everybody hears everything. I do believe he has heard. For Jack Eastby! It's all right. We got Michael Pippen yeah you already made it yeah yeah yeah jackie's on the show oh no well i mean once he finds out that this was a former church i don't even think it's a worry no i don't think it's a question well depends on which church actually he walks his way right oh my god he might be frogging in the basement. You never know. This is just what Jesus did.

We just hired him and he blesses the show every day before we sleep. That's how we get to the next level. Gentlemen on your knees. Whoa. Pause. Whoa. I don't think you need to. You don't need to get on your knees to be blessed. The rain has evolved.

Januflect. Church pews, right? Sorry, what did you just say? You Januflect. Church pews, right? Sorry, what did you just say? You genuflect. What's that? Where you take a knee before you go into the pew. When you go into... Take down a knee.

You say genuinely reflect? No, you genuflect. Do you think about anything as you're doing it or is it just procedural like kickoff? It is procedural like kickoff. So nothing's happened. And it's kind of like the old guard move. When I was young going to church, I wasn't fucking genuflecting.

I was going to go sit. Tebow was number one at genuflecting. He genuflected for a while. He does it every chair he sits in, actually. He genuflects. He doesn't just do it. People that weren't alive, maybe,

people that weren't alive in the Tebow era have no idea. Praying was Tebow-ing. Praying's been around a long time. Turns out it's actually not even Tebow against Jenny Flecken. Well, Jenny Flecken is actually just checking with the floor, I think. Boom. Make a side cross to the crucifix.

Respect. Sir, may I enter this piece? And it is spectacles. Father, son. Wallet and watch. That's right. Got it. Father, son. Wallet and watch. That's right. Got it. Right, left, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Right, left. But he keeps doing it left, right. Yeah, left, right. So watch the wallet, then. Yeah. Spectacles.

Yeah, watch the wallet. Watch the wallet. Depends on if you're right-handed or left-handed, because left-handed people. I suppose it does. Well, and are you in a mirror? You know, because it's the opposite. Depends on if you're right-handed or left-handed. I suppose it does. And are you in a mirror? It's reflection. There's not a lot of mirrors when you're genuflecting. Yeah, no mirrors.

Have you guys ever took communion? Yes. Left hand up, right hand down, right? I know what they say, put up an actual... Both hands out. You have to do a full X. No, that's vampires. You don't have to do a full X. No, that's vampires. You don't have to do that. You did that at Ty's wedding.

If you walk up, they'll still just bless you. Such an asshole. If you don't want it, just go ahead and do a double. No. Be as demonstrative and despicable as possible as everybody else in here that's doing it watches you fucking go to hell right in this moment.

I don't want to do it. Just don't go up, though. You just stay seated. Oh yeah, everyone goes around. Everyone goes, but if you're not a Catholic, you don't go. Yeah, you just sit down. You don't get up. This fucker took a trip around the church. We're not going up to the front.

This thing's coming. The priest did? Seat to seat? Yeah, that was different. Usually everyone gets up and goes to the head. Because of the box pew. I'm hanging in pew. I'm listening to sermon. Pretty good talker. He's got a pretty good speaker. Holy hell. I'm listening.

If somebody has to speak in front of a congregation or a group of people, I'm going to listen to how they choose to deliver their message. Just as somebody who speaks in front of people on a regular basis. So I can listen to anybody talk publicly about anything, like legitimately, and I will be intrigued. I will listen. I'm in there.

This guy was great. He was great. It was who? George Washington's church. Yes. George. I was in George Washington's church listening to this guy deliver a hell of a sermon. I'm sitting in a two-by-two pew that had its own little box as if we're in a penalty box.

Sick. With my wife. And we're just hanging out. And then all of a sudden, he's like, we're taking the show on the road. We're coming to you. And he goes, penalty box, penalty box, penalty box. I'd never been in a place where they do that either. But it's because of the box pews.

Okay, so that's the first time that it's happened? Yeah. In your life? Yes. Not normal? No. He walks right over to our penalty box after giving, I don't know what, 200 people this thing?

Everybody like, bring it on in. Love it. Bring it on in. Then he gets to my field. I'm like, I'm not taking one from this. I'm not doing it. I'm not ready yet. Okay?

I'm not ready yet. Don't waste one on me. Don't waste your prayers on me. And like, he waited until I did the full. There Don't waste one on me. Don't waste your prayers on me. And like, he waited until I did the full There it is. I was back here. Back right. I was down in there.

It's like the oldest church in America. What's in the briefcases. So wait, if you sit down, can you see each other? Yeah, heads up. Heads up. Your heads will pop over the top? Sam, I think think had a little bit of uh you know man but yeah you're in there but he hit every single pew on way and i was way back so he literally tried to slouch down and catch a quick nap in there friends getting married yeah

what the hell not at the wedding not at a wedding if i was at a service that was dragging on maybe it was in latin and i didn't mean in lords the lord's time what do you you go into jesus's house to take a nap i don't think so pal he should be hates you god knows god knows my intentions if i'm sleeping i need to take a quick nap i guess god did put it on you to take a quick snooze he didn't put it god did it was in god's vision yeah he put it on you yeah he said my priest is not keeping them awake i do think about this the people that preach on the internet and i listen to their sermons because once again, they're speaking, so I enjoy listening to how people choose to deliver their message. When they say God put something on my heart

or on my mind, those are just like your thoughts that you have? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, but he put them on there. And they say those are God's thoughts. Like that crypto person in Denver. That bastard. God put it on my heart to redo my house by selling a fake thing. God, those are just like the thoughts that are coming through his head.

Like if I were to kill somebody, the devil put those thoughts on me. It wasn't me. Remember that. That happens a lot. Why would you? Just remember that, just in case. Tony. We archived it.

It's documented. I didn't like that one bit. I didn't like the way you made me feel. That bummed me out. I'm bummed out. So I can take this to court and say, look, I said it before. Devil's fault. Judgment Day just walked out.

Didn't the hip bum me out? That was messed up. You just made me feel the same way I feel whenever I see that dirty, dumb, dumb. I didn't see that coming. I hate that guy. I don't like the way that made me feel what you just said. I didn't like the way I had to say it. Somebody had to, though, you're saying.

Just in case. That's journalism. Was that the devil, actually? That put that on his mind? Put that on his mind, yeah. Not here. He can't reach me here. To be clear, whatever you want to believe in that makes you feel good,

about it. Just do it. Just don't kill anybody and rob people. Don't be bad. Just don't do bad things in the name of anyone. Amen. Don't say God told you to kill me. I didn't say God. Don't say God told you to redo your kitchen too.

Yeah, that too. That's tough. That guy must be a silver-tongued son of a bitch. He was getting millions of dollars from a fake crypto? Well, he must be a silver tongue son of a he was getting millions of dollars from a fake crypto well you know he might be a little silver tongue i would like to see the uh combined iq i was going to say safe to say that congregation ain't splitting the atom no people say that about our show yeah and i would agree with those people people say uh these group of doofuses talk to who?

The dumbest people on earth? I don't think that's true. You're definitely smarter than us out there if you're watching this one. We love you guys. Those people are rude. Boom! That's the way it's going to end. Yep.

That's the way it's going to end today. You made the only shot that matters. Yeah. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Boys, it's getting worse. There it is. That one's flat.

Oh, that was a big one. Sam Harbin at the combine. Oh, here we go. Ooh. He was a leader. Not good. Not good. He was a leader. He was a leader.

He was a leader. He's the first one. Fucking waving the voice down to celebrate. He didn. Not good. He was a leader. He was a leader. He's the first one fucking waving the voice down to celebrate. He didn't throw. He didn't throw. He didn't throw. He didn't throw. He didn't throw. He didn't throw. He didn't throw.

He didn't throw. He didn't throw. Yeah, he had the slowest throw by a lot, which I didn't even know they do until this year. It was awesome. Yeah, when did they? He chose to throw. That's all I cared about. I agree.

Well, he's 50 years old. He shouldn't have. Yeah, he's handsome. Fuck. Like, yeah, he's very handsome. That was a good ball. That counts. And you made the Pittman ball.

See, this is all I saw out of Sam Hartman's combine, so I thought he did great. Me too. Yep. People were all rocked up on the internet over that, weren't they? No. Hoppy Janopi, look at the guy behind him. There's a lot of num-num-num-num tweets. Yeah.

What was that? Num-num-num-num. What is no ball exactly? What's that? What is no ball? What's that? What is Noble? It's Tom Brady. I had multiple people text me and say, hey, what is this Noble? Fucking lifestyle brand.

That guy was on the program. Now it's lifestyle. It used to be apparel. Now it's wellness with TB12 and Brady joining the mix. Noble's on right now. Shoes, clothes. I knew the shoes. I knew the shoes.

Yeah. Connor has a brand new pair of Nobles on his feet right now. I do. Why don't we go ahead and bring those up to the spotlight? They can match any outfit. They go with everything. I can wear these. Those are my MIT socks right below.

Bill has those too. I can wear these at any time. Who has those, Hawks? Bill has an all black pair of those. McCullers? Dude, Nobles are popular. You'd be surprised. Those are killing shoes. You like those, Haw shoes? Bill has an all black pair of those. McCollum's? Yeah. Dude, Nobles are popular. You'd be surprised. Those are killing shoes.

You like those, Hawker? Yeah, I do. I did not expect that. He showed me a picture of those last night while we were on the plane. I fucking check it out, dude. They go with everything. They go with everything. Yeah, they do.

All the colors. Red, black, white. I mean, what else can you ask for? Kind of looks like Will Compton's painting on the inside. Paintball shoes. Paintball? Oh, yeah. See, that's a light. You wear those paintball. the inside. Paintball shoes. Paintball. Oh, yeah. See, that's a layup.

Wear those paintball. You don't even know I want paintball. You do that all the time, too, so that's good. Yeah. I went paintballing back in 2013. Yeah. Yep. About 10 years ago.

It's always such a to-do. Now I'm ready, though. So expensive, too. But a full planning. The whole everything that has to happen. You need a bunch ofdo. No, I'm ready, though. So expensive, too. But a full planning, the whole, everything that has to happen. You need a bunch of people. Yeah.

It takes more to plan a paintball outing than it does to plan, like, a wedding. Yeah. It's like eight months worth of prep. But it's worth it

when you're out there for that fucking two hours loading up the hopper. You go to Boston Paintball. We certainly have time to just shape that whole thing up. I mean, we do have the space. Set up a camera and call it a show.

Set up a couple snakes out back. We'll do it from noon to 3. Set up a camera and call it a show. Could set up like a gladiator-style elimination deal where someone sits there and you've got to run and dodge in between all the little things. Oh, yeah. I've been trying to get a 50 cal tennis ball shooter who can make that those guys

call the dude from Mythbusters I don't think he's got it anymore something happened to them Mythbusters they quit they busted them all they busted them all when you figure everything out in of meth. One of them's still going, I think. They busted them all.

Yeah. When you figure everything out in the history of the world, what are you going to do? What did they figure out the one? Like John Brinkus. Nice. There it is. John Brinkus. That was a good throw.

You didn't see it. You're fucking worried about the Mythbusters. You want to love. I was asking the question. They did the myth where whether you walk or run through a rainstorm, who is more wet? What did they find out? Same, I think. I mean, who gives a fuck?

That's the myth they're busting. Are you fucking kidding me? Amongst others. Okay, good. That's the one that he pulled. Did you have never seen it? I've seen episodes, but I've never watched it. Oh, dude.

That was so good. Okay. Yeah, I'll definitely do it as soon as I get home. Yep. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Listen, between this and you calling him Italian, you calling him Italian Hulk Hogan. Paul Tuttle is Italian Hulk Hogan.

Don't tell me he's not. That's not the same show. Just so we know. Yeah, that's the same genre. Running in the rain actually made you more wetter. Made you more wetter. Okay. Because you sweat.

Myth sucks. There's a lot of myths that sucks. That's what they were trying to prove. They did one that you could get shot by a bullet underwater or not. That was a cool one. Yeah, I'm going to watch tonight. If you could really. I'm going to watch tonight, are you?

Yeah, yeah. No, you're not. You would actually like it. I'm so pumped to go home and watch. Did you ever see that show, Adam Ruins Everything? Nope. That one. That guy stunk. That was tough.

Have you seen A Thousand Ways to Die? I don't know. Now that's a show. I didn't like that show. That is a fucking show. I've never seen it. It's a thousand ways that different people have died in the most absurd ways. It was on a classic Spike TV show.

A guy getting crushed by some lady's boobs. A bunch of shit like that. Some guy, you're a dude, you'll love this show. Boobs are killing people. That was basically the premise. And you guys bought right in. I watched about one episode and when it was like, this guy left his penis in the microwave for 90 seconds.

All right. I bought voiceover. It's really cool. Yeah, you buy stock in that show. Did you hear what you just did right there? I just heard a clip in a future documentary about us. Yeah, no, I know. You're right.

They'll use that one. Yep, for sure. If they're still watching. Even if they're recording another show. Could you do that, though? Microwave, Dick? You're meeting the microwave? If you could come out to the south park.

How do you close it? Randy Marsh put it. That's what I'm saying. Maybe you cut a big slot so your shaft could go in there. No, it'd explode like a hot dog. You ever put a hot dog in the microwave? It'd be a heated sensation. A hot dog isn't like your meat, though.

Same consistency. I understand it has a similar look. Yeah, but it kind of feels similar, too. That's something you would enjoy about Mythbusters. They actually build things that feel like actual heads and stuff. Oh, yeah? Yeah. That's sweet. You guys ever watch The Deadliest Warrior?

You remember that? Yes. That's a great show. Samurai versus a ninja. Yeah. The gelatinous models that come in and some guy would just take a knife and stab it like a billion times and just tear it apart. So see? This Singh's fucking dead.

Sports Science had a good run there for a while. Kevin Love won with the sumo wrestler was just on my ex the other day. Spin move? Was it spin move? No, that was Dwight Framing. Hall of Famer. Congrats, Dwight. We're so pumped you got Sports Science because I was back in the middle of it and then we watched it and we're like

could have done something They had the same pads and jersey as Pros vs. Joes Pros vs. Joes was great What is Stoyakovich? Peja? Wasn't Jay the host? No, there was a guy who looks like him Who's the host?

I know Petros Papadakis was for a while Hell of a shooter though Petros Papadakis was for a while. Boom. Petros. No, it's Bolyakovich. No. Hell of a shooter, though. Petros. Papadakis. He still does. He does a radio show with Matt Money Smith. Huge LA show, yeah.

I did some games with Petros with FS1 back in the day. Great energy, great vibe. He was the host of Pros vs. Jets. Yeah, that was a good show. Kevin Green. Kevin Green and Bill Goldberg. Deemmates. Yeah.

Ricky Williams was in that show. Roy Jones Jr., boxing guys. Oh, my gosh. That's not fair. That was a good old days. That was a point in the show. Now a lot of people watch our show. That's back when Buddy Velastro was rolling.

Look at KG. That's Bill Goldberg wrestling, baby. Number F. A to the J. I was on Pros vs. Joes. Man. Did he talk to you? Did you ever talk to him about this? Yes. We showed the clip. We made him show us the J. I was on Pros vs. Joes. Did he talk to you? Did you ever talk to him about this? Yes, we made him show us the clips.

He's like, I did all right out there. He's like the greatest, right? He's the greatest human, greatest football person alive. There'll never be another KG, ever. They love him in the wrestling business as well. Everybody loves it. Oh man. His wrestling clips are awesome too.

He's he'd get into high knees and then do like up downs and hit everything. He, we watched those clips as well too. He would, he'd get upset. Sometimes we'd pop him up. KG. Look at you,

man. This is awesome. What do you cover? Strike was his thing, right? I mean, yeah, yeah.

Cobra strikes all day long, all day. Everything starts with power with KG. What does that mean right here? Like if you're rushing the edge, if you're an edge rusher, like that tackle has to be scared that you're going to bull rush him every single play and then everything comes off of that. What do you call you, A to the J? A to the J.

Give you a little hit, put his fist out. Because he would, I would, where my seat in our defensive medium was right on the aisle, like next to the step, because I got to hit, put his fist out. Cause he would, I would, where my seat in our defensive medium was right on the aisle, like next to the step. Cause I got to take a leak every four seconds and back then. And he would sit in his chair, like right in the stairs next to me. So he would always lean over and whisper things to me or whatever. If he saw something that he, he thought I should know.

Cause he wasn't my direct coach. He was the outside backers coach. Winston Moss was my inside backers coach. So it was awesome and he would say a to the j every time pretty much yeah i would come off the field after a big like third down stop whatever i'd always he's always so excited and i would punch him in the chest always like and it became a thing and then he said hey hey to the j you gotta watch it buddy i gotta i'm bro bruised up from you i appreciate i appreciate you but you gotta you

gotta lighten up my all right kg i got you in the next game i blast him were you he the one you flipping off or no no no no who were you flipping off it was a joke to my linebacker coach at the moment a facetious sarcastic bird who was yeah but it seemed like real ill intent though you know oh no all right there's no ill intent like that yeah i think i just shacked somebody yeah you dude i think that's what i felt like no not on that one no no any deals good it was all good fun in the last 23 minutes no no that's monday now let's get out of here what a long one today went two hours and 40 minutes without commercial. That was electric.

That was pretty cool. Yeah. Have we done it? No. I mean, not including. I don't even think. Because draft night. Yeah.

I guess the first couple draft nights we never did. Yeah. That ain't commercial. That was four or five. That was four or five hours. Yeah. We got to figure out little packages. But live school last year.

In Gary, Indiana. Yeah. Yeah. I think to figure out little packages. But live school last year. Theater Arena in Gary, Indiana? Yeah. Yeah, I think. Theater Arena? High school gym. Last year we had the five-minute season recap video. You flipped him off twice, AJ. You got him once. I was pointing to him to get his attention. Can you go back, please?

That's what those uniforms will do. You tackle him, and then your first thought isn't celebrate with teammates. No, it's you. Middlefinger, right there. I'm celebrating. And then celebrating and then back another one there it is just one middle finger i feel like it was two there at the beginning footage is a little grainy did you like those unis yeah we got to keep them yeah where's that right now is it up in their bedroom it's somewhere in my basement yeah and my actually after this game i think i had some blood on my pants too from this and my my brother's buddy got all drunk after the game and put the whole uniform on

and was doing push-ups in our kitchen. That's awesome. Super sweaty and bloody still on it. We got pictures of him doing push-ups. Well, let's find a score here. Obviously, you guys win. Yeah, we won. I don't – no clue.

That Rams team. Those were some fun years for the St. Louis Rams. Steven Jackson. Steven Jackson. Are you kidding me? That guy was like 6'4", 250, running a 4'3". Long was on that team, right?

Lauren Itis? Robert Quinn? Robert Quinn, thank you. They had some players. Quinn broke some records there. They didn't win a lot, but they left the city. Aaron Rodgers threw three touchdowns, including a career-long 93-yarder to Jordy Nelson,

and the Green Bay Packers remained unbeaten with a 24-3 victory. 6-0. AJ, is Aaron just Joe Rogan now? I saw he's hunting. Yeah, he's bow hunting. He's bow hunting. He's out with Cam Haynes, right? He's hiking.

I don't know if he went hunting with Cam, but I know he definitely got some practice. Something bullseyes. Yeah, top-out bow lessons. Something bullseyes. Yeah, I think he ran with Cam. Cam runs up some hill and carries a rock. I think Aaron did that with him. There's a guy that did that who

got too close to the sun. He should be careful. Yeah, Chris. Which guy's Cam Haynes? The guy on the blue there? No, Cam's not in this one right now. He sounded really cool. The guy over there on the left cam's not in this one right now he sounded really cool the bolt the guy over there on the left sounded really cool in this video is that steve rinella that's cam with the cell yeah because he did it i think he did renoa's podcast and relax what if he turned it accidentally

shot somebody better fly is he gonna get into this probably wouldn't put the clip out if that happened but is he gonna get oh i don't know seems like he might he might be getting into archery i guess right i was thinking about his shoulder i'm like you better watch that's your throwing arm bro don't be messing up rotating look at him look at this but if you're one what's that called grouping or whatever yeah if you're one with nature it doesn't matter you're one with nature, it doesn't matter. You're right. Yeah, hookah. Hookah. Look at those shoes. Shane Gillis had a hookah. Yeah.

At the Warriors Knicks. Yeah. How about Shane on Saturday Night Live? Way to go, Shane. Way to go, Shane. I love it. I loved it. All right, let's get out of here.

4.30. Too much. We did too much today. No, it's Franchise Tag Tuesday. Yeah, Franchise Tag Tuesday. Yeah, we're kind of just waiting on the clock. Yeah. Too much. We did too much today. No, it's Franchise Tag Tuesday. Yeah, Franchise Tag Tuesday. Yeah, we're kind of just waiting on a clock. Yeah. Passing time.

We've always gone until 4. We always know Franchise Tag Tuesday is huge. Yeah. It's this day in the trade deadline day. I think last year we stopped at 3.30 and then something happened, right? Yeah. We had to rerun. That was the Saquon year last year where we didn't know if he was going to get tagged

or a deal. He knocked it. He got tagged this year. Sorry. Sorry, Dan Jones. It was the Dan Jones or Saquon. Who's getting tagged? Who's getting the deal? Buyer's remorse from what they did last year, Bruce. That's what they're saying.

Monday starts the legal tampering on Monday. Pre-agency starts Monday. Contracts get done Monday. There will be players on other teams Monday. That's what happened last year. You know who's on the Colts still? Michael Pittman. That's the story of year. You know who's on the Colts still? Michael Pittman. And that's the story of the day. Alright, let's get the hell out of here.

We'll be back tomorrow with a big Wednesday. Yeah. Who do we have on tomorrow? Couple massive guests. Hopefully Easterby. Literally and figuratively. Yeah, hopefully Jack. AJ, good call. I already forgot that we booked Easterby through

Lombardi. There's some characters we haven't caught up with yet. Such as? Dane Orszalowski. Oh, how's Dane? I believe he has dove into the film on the new guys, so.

Is he back on TV? I thought he was off forever. No, he's back on TV. He's back on TV. Noted, bitch. That was a good tweet of his I liked over the break. What'd it say? It said noted, bitch. He did not say that. Noted, bitch. That was a good tweet of his I liked over the break. What'd it say?

It said noted, bitch. He did not say that. It was implied. Why did he say that? In the tweet. Why'd he say that? It was only one word. Why'd he say that?

Some deal got announced. You didn't see the bitch? Good deal. Big deal. Congrats, Ryan Clark. Hell yeah. Noted, bitch. He didn't say...

He just said... Ah, shit, I must have seen it. Ah, it's edited. It doesn't say there's a newer version? Nah, it was. It said bitch. He also called his shot. Bo Nix to the Broncos, baby.

I saw that. So I'm excited for him to take his Russell Wilson gut cut victory lap because he knew it was coming. Is he live on air right now? Probably. NFL Live's at 4. Yeah, there they are. Today's been a cold call Tuesday.

I don't know if Dan's on or not. Who didn't answer? Mo Agueta? Yep. He's not on. Dan's on. I didn't hear what you said. Sorry, I took this thing out.

Brady Quinn did not answer either. Yeah, that's right. Wendy looks good. That's your family. That's your family. Sorry, dude. I took this thing out. Brady couldn't answer either. Yeah, that's right. Wendy looks good. That's your family. That's your family. Dan, we're live. What's up, buddy? Who'd you put your Dan wagon on?

Who are we out of the combine? Who's your, ah, this is the guy. Who is it? No one, really. I mean, I think the combine is okay. So I don't really care about what happens in No one, really. I mean, I think Combine is like okay. So I don't really care about what happens to the Combine, but. Do you watch the film? Yeah, we saw that you've seen the film, right?

And you got it figured out or what? I've got it figured out. Yeah, no. No one changed my mind at the Combine. This guy sucks. After the film, who's the best? It sucks. What about Caleb?

There's a lot of people saying that you suck for saying that. I don't think that's true. I think you gave a good take right there. What about Caleb There's a lot of people saying he sucks I don't think that's true I think you gave a good take right there What about Caleb It's not a lot of people saying it's just Boston Conner That's not true What do you know to tweet me What do you know to tweet me

The big question is Connor said that you tweeted Noted But you didn't say that second word. You just said noted. A lot of people are wondering what you were noting. Oh, it's not about the combine, no. And?

What were you noting? Just stuff from my memory for the potential future. Like what? Just stuff. Oh, so that's why you noted it, because you wanted to remember it. Correct. Boo! Connor's booing you.

What are you doing? You look like you're living a dream. I am on a golf trip with some fellas down in Streamsong, down in Florida. He loves Streamsong. How are you playing? I'm playing, I mean, if you could take a blind person out here and have them putt, they would putt better than me. Whoa! Scotty Scheffler on the greens.

Okay, are you walking these courses? I'm walking. We're on 17 through 16 holes. I have 10 three putts. Oh, Dan. Dan, roll it close, Dan. Roll it close. That's all you got to do.

It is beautiful, though. Why don't you keep it, Trevor? Wow, there it close, Dan. Roll it close. That's all you got to do. It is beautiful, though. Why don't you keep it short? Wow, this is gorgeous. He's a competitor. This is Florida? It's a good spot. You're in Florida, you said? Yeah, right in the, it's kind of like flying to Tampa, our, like, southeast.

So, middle of Orange Farms kind of area. Oh, they have a glade. Are you guys all doped up or boozed up? What's going on? There's a couple people having a good time. Stay focused on your golf game. Listen, roll it close and tap it in. We don't need a bunch of three putts out of you.

Not good hands today out of me. Just not good hands today. Usually I got great hands. Not good hands today. I don't know what to tell you. Are you golfing tomorrow? Yeah. 36th tomorrow, then 36th at home.

Are you on a stag, dude? Are you walking the whole thing? Is it a bachelor party? No, just we come here every year. So right kind of after the Super Bowl, come here every year. No bachelor party. Just a group of like 12 of us are down here. Do you rent houses or a hotel?

How's it go? We stay at the top of the clubhouse. Down here they have the top of their clubhouse. Noted. The top? Noted. Noted. Damn. Wow.

12 people staying on campus. Not a great line. Yeah, this guy sucks. Nice shot, loser. On the top. Not a great line. Yeah, this guy sucks. Nice shot, Luther. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.

Set it up. Let's hit a good shot. What is this? Is this two? Is this two? This is 17, bud. No, shot. Fucking dipshit.

Set it up. What shot is this? What shot is this? Hold on. I've got a club. Hold on. I'm going to? What shot is this? Hold on. I've got a club. Hold on. I'm going to hit a shot. This guy's drunk.

Just like that. What shot is this? Is he slapping the bag? What's it declare those bunkers? 170 in the air. What are you laying? That's his caddy. 170.

Why you got a wood out? Yeah, it's embarrassing. He only hits it 250. This is a par four here. Dan Orlovsky on stream songs. Par five. I hit this one hard, bud. 170?

No, 170 clear the bunkers. 300 to the flag. Let's go, Dan. Put it on. Knock it on. J-Den! J-Den! He likes it.

All right, we're fine. Let's fairway over there. Fairway. Over there. He's on the other hole. We're good. Hey, make sure you tip that guy. Okay, that caddy.

Let's make sure we're tipping him. That's Els. Is there... Ernie? Ernie? Ernie! Hey, Ernie. Foxy was just out of South Africa.

Yeah. Why are you guys live right now at 4.30? Well because people are fucking working It's Franchise Tag Tuesday So we went until 4 and now we're just literally wasting time To see how long this show can go They're great man Alright get a bird here

Will you pal? I have zero on the day I'm going to do everything I can You remember when he lied to us about your What are you, pal? I have zero on the day. I'm going to do everything I can in my power to get it done for you, bud. You remember when he lied to us about your score? Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. For charity.

Three putts. Six three putts, he said. For charity. Ten. Ten three putts. I can't stand Boston Conner, dude. Like, if I could get into a fist fight with one person right now. Shut up. I'm sure that helps. Oh, no.

Shut up. I'm sure that helps. All right, good luck out there, Dan. We appreciate you. Hey, do you genuflect any time you take a trip down the pew? Is that like bow? Yeah, you could bow, yes. Is he Catholic?

Roman. What's gen you me all right never mind i'm more religious than you god bless have a good time down there okay later buddy hey god bless you number one product sounded good off the club dead he's got a nice good swing He's got a great swing Smooth No birdies though That's a serious trip Are they walking 36? 36 holes tomorrow

Then 36 again the next day That's not fun That's not fun No No it is fun for them They're like golf people I guess If you're riding it's fine

Walking that's insane Yeah but like He's probably super in shape And walks a lot Definitely We need to walk at this club right over here every morning, but we can't because of fixing the course. We've got to make sure the president will let us in.

It was open. 35,000 people watching. You guys need to go fucking do something else. Jesus. Nick, do you think the president or the head honcho? It was open yesterday. He's just an icon for indie sports radio. His name is Daniel Dockett.

Yeah, he runs that club over there. He's the CEO. Double D. Nick said every time he goes in there, Double D is just holding court. If anyone can make it happen, it's Double D. I need a boxing match of Double D versus Double M. You know, Nick became a member of the country club last year. I think he's the first Italian to ever be a member

of this particular country club. Certainly that one. Congratulations. I'd been a member of that country club just because I wanted to play one day, so I had to become a member for the entire year. It is beautiful. It is a nice course.

It is a beautiful place. It is a great course. But I think every time they have openings in their slots is like when we can't go. That's a beautiful course. I love playing over there. I do, too. 27 holes.

We've got to figure out how close it is. We shouldn't be not golfing. Don't look at me. Well, remember, we looked into getting a company membership, and they're like, all right, yeah, no problem. It's $150,000. And then an additional, it was very expensive. We wanted the cold sweet.

Yeah, exactly. All right, we're out of here. Show sucks. AJ, you said you were going to break news hour one. Yeah, right away. Yeah, I'll hold it until tomorrow. Hooga, dude. Good tease.

Good tease. Hooga. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Remember, we're in this thing together for four and a half hours today. Amen. Team on me. team on three one two three three goodbye