The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1083 - Kendrick Perkins, Texans TE Dalton Schultz, Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 6, 2024

On today's show, Pat, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat more about the combine, Xavier Worthy's 40 time, and if his smaller frame matters in today's NFL, plus they wrap around the sports world and check in on other sports that are happening including bull riding, lacrosse, the Iditarod, college softball, and all the other sports we may not be cognizant of right now. Joining the progrum to chat about the NBA season right now, Wemby, how today's NBA is different than 20 years ago, and why he thinks this year's NBA playoffs might be one of the best ever is 15 year NBA veteran, NBA Champion, and ESPN NBA analyst, Kendrick Perkins (34:48-55:08). Later, fresh off signing a new three year deal, and to chat about the Houston Texans success this last year, CJ Stroud as a teammate, his relationship with DeMeco Ryans and why he's been such a good Head Coach so far, why Bobby Slowik is an offensive mastermind, and his insane gaming background, is Tight End for the Houston Texans, Dalton Schultz (2:04:57-2:37:03). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Big Sports Wednesday, March 6, 2024. This sports program starts now. Sports! Our glorious thing nailed it. Ladies and gentlemen, today is going to be a fantastic day. We'll have Big Perk joining us in about 20 to 30 minutes to talk about what's going on in the NBA. We'll have Dalton Schultz join us. Tight end for the Houston Texans who just signed a three-year, $36 million deal with the Texans after being a Dallas Cowboy and then having immense success with C.J. Stroud.

And C.J. Stroud is historically the greatest rookie quarterback of all time. One of his best weapons sticks around. We'll talk to him in the third hour. I'm also joined by the talks at table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. I'll tell you what, you're starting five. This one is a good one. Now we're getting creative. Now we're doing the sports.

Now we got the animals. This shirt is maybe my favorite shirt that you've put on your body thus far. Wow. Thank you very much. Yeah, starting five. You know, it is NBA season, kind of an NBA reference. Actually, a good friend, Evan Fox, he got this for me in Africa. What did he get you guys?

I got a video to watch of an elephant walking up to his pool and drinking his water and then walking around. I think I saw a hyena skipping through the safari down there. I think I saw, oh, he climbed the mountain. Oh, yeah, big mountain. These guys got a lot of good content. Welcome back to America, Safari Foxy. Thank you, guys.

Your gifts are in the mail still. They're still coming. He left me alone for two weeks, which is the greatest gift you could ever give me. Okay, see, happy birthday. From Foxy Early to one half of the hammer. Cowboys turn digs. Way to go. That's a great shirt.

Foxy did well there. Yeah, he did. And he usually doesn't, so I appreciate it. Because me and him, our styles, we dons. Way to go. That's a great shirt. Foxy did well there. Yeah, he did. And he usually doesn't, so I appreciate it. Because me and him, our styles, we don't see eye to eye. No. Well, your style is that of somebody who doesn't have one. Well, I disagree. I mean, I'll be honest.

I got compliments on my shoes this morning. I'm sure you did. Yeah, and they were genuine, obviously. Foxy's an H&M guy. I go into H&M and they kick me out. They know I'm not there. Foxy and Abercrombie and Fitch on right now. genuine, obviously. Foxy's an H&M guy. I go into H&M and they kick me out. They know I'm not there. Foxy has Abercrombie & Fitch on right now. Yeah, exactly.

Good shirt. I went into Abercrombie & Fitch the other day. They're very different than what they used to be. All the way back. Really? All the way back. How so? Not the music and the smells anymore?

They got Daytona 500 shirts in there. Okay. Hold on. NFL shirts in there. Yeah, and it's like oversized stuff, but it's not oversized all in me. Is he an intimidator? They got an intimidator shirt?

Number three? I don't know if there's Dale Earnhardt, but that is the vein in which Abercrombie & Fitch is doing their things. There's only one size 36 waist in the entire store for the male sex. So the same problems I was having in high school with Abercrombie & Fitch

I'm having here as an adult. But I will say, they have dodged, ducked, dipped, dived, and dodged their way through fashion. They were packed. Really? The store was packed out. Interesting.

It feels like Abercrombie & Fitch is all the way back. And the store is really coolly designed. But yeah, they're all the way back. I think they have a deal with NFL, and that's how I first got into them, because they have the old school lion stuff. So I had to get that. It felt like I was walking through a basic white person

Cabela. Cabela's. Well said. There's comfortable stuff over here. You got the slides over here. You got the throwback stuff over here. You're just walking through a Cabela's store. I mean, $90 for a crew neck sweatshirt.

I didn't buy anything except for a pair of Cam Flush pants. They're the only size 36 in the entire store, but they are cool. Wait till I debut those bad boys. I was going to say, where have they been? Today might have been the day because we were with a man whose fashion is normally top

of the line. And today is no different. Last year he spent the entire offseason with us. This year he's going to obviously be back. And also this year, he is a signed rapper launching an entire career. Damn right. Pro bowler, West Virginia University Mountaineer legend, friend of the program, family of the show. Ladies and gentlemen, Pac-Man Jones. Pac, real rap rap shit's

happening right now. Right now is happening Ferrari Kid out, SOB on the way and this is through Universal? Yeah. Okay this is like real hey signed with a label doing the whole thing right now. Doing the whole thing I got a little sum up under my sleeve on the SOB, on the remix side of things. Song isn't even out yet. Already got a remix lined up. This throwback is old school. Pac-Man, I think even people that don't know you as well

as we do would assume that Pac-Man Jones would have the perfect setup to be a rapper. Like that, right? Like, out of Atlanta, obviously. Everything that you've been through. The mistakes you've made. The things that happened. The comebacks. The empathetic side. Atlanta, obviously. What? Everything that you've been through. Yeah. The mistakes you've made. Yeah. The things that happened. The comebacks. The empathetic side.

Yeah. You know? Family, human, that you are. Businessman that you are. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah, come on now. Let's go back.

And you got them pushing your universals behind you. It's like, here we go. And this next song, standing on Business SOB, we have heard from, like, the very beginning. Yeah. The entire thing. Banger, dude. I think this is the one that's going to push the needle a little bit. I think so.

In anything, you know this, you've got a great work ethic. You just keep going. It feels like you just keep going. I see a lot of people that aren't talented at all making it in music. That's a thing that happens. You've got talent and a work ethic and a story. We can't wait to see what you do with it. Congrats on all that.

Great to see you back. Appreciate it, my boy. Speaking of Pac-Man Jones, obviously what you're known for is being incredibly fast. And as we start this conversation about the Combine, Travis Kelsey told some stories on New Heights Podcast to his brother Jason Kelsey, which we'll get to about the Combine meetings. You know, because you always hear about the Combine meetings, like these teams are meeting these players, and it's all scripted is what they say.

Everything's scripted, so normally you don't hear about a bad meeting unless somebody is literally terrible, especially at this stage of the whole thing. And then there's the on-field stuff, where we're just looking for what the most explosive and exciting player did. What? This year, it was the fastest 40 in the history. It was Xavier Worthy at the University of Texas

running a 4-2-1 official 40. Back to him after running a 4-2-5 40 and saying, you know what, I would like to run again because I want to get the record. They actually were talking to him in between runs after the 4-2-5, and they were like, he's probably going to shut it down. In the day of people sitting out because they're scared to get hurt, 4-2-5, you're good.

You are, hey, we are fast. He said, you know, I'm going to try it again. I'm going to try to get the record. So he saw 4-2-5, was excited visibly, but inside probably a little bit bummed. Probably a little bit bummed. I can get faster than that. Tries it again, runs it. You're a human that ran a what?

428. What? Damn. That's so fast. Moving. You got draft number six overall. Yeah. As a corner, returner, and a slot receiver inevitably for the Tennessee Titans.

Why is everybody faster now than ever, you think? And is that what you think? Do you think the world is getting faster now? I think the world is getting faster. I think the surface is way more better. The shoes are way better. This kid just shot out a rocket. You can tell certain, when kids are really fast, you can be like, oh yeah, that kid is

really fast. He's track fast. I got a chance to look at his film. He run pretty good routes too. Yeah, well they, and in the modern NFL, right, they can put his ass in everywhere. In motions, and he's gone. Now they're 165, 170 pounds. I don't know what it is exactly. It's small. Yeah, that is

small, right? Yeah, that is small. But in the modern NFL, you can avoid the hits. Yeah, you can't hit him. Where can you hit him? Low? If he know how to protect himself, and I think he do, he's played at a high level, so I think he'll be alright. Now, you enjoyed hitting humans, right? I loved it. Loved it!

Oh my God. And you used to do actual research on guys that enjoyed getting hit and not getting hit, right? Yes, I did. And talk a lot of trash. Yeah, you're a menace. Absolute menace out there. It's a beautiful thing. Do you think that the way football is going, speed is going to be the big thing? And this is happening in basketball. Yeah.

This is happening in basketball. As skill continues to evolve, which it is, there's always going to be a physicality to it. But on the back end, there's a chance that there's probably going to be a lot more get out of bounds, get down with these guys that are Ferraris. You don't want rocks hitting. There's no reason to hurt one of these. 165 pounds is small. It's small. Now, he can get bigger and everything like that,

but one big shot, even from a corner, let alone a linebacker and everything, you've got to be worried about that forever. Modern NFL, not a problem. No, not at all. Not a problem at all, right? Especially what you're saying. The motions that you can do with this guy,

he might not be able to get touched. You played with a guy like T.Y he was he was under but he but he knew what he was doing and even when we watched like a tyree kill who's obviously stocky or a little bigger like he knows exactly when he's supposed to get down and out of bounds ty hilton got booed his first couple plays you know he'd get the ball he'd'd go down. In Indianapolis, look at this. You've proved nothing. We have Marvin Harrison here. We have Reggie Wayne here.

We have tough football players here. And then, like, whenever he's playing game 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, not missing any reps, it's like, oh, hey, way to avoid the hit. Smart player. This guy knows football. It's like a full come circle moment. You got to make the plays, obviously. T.Y. Hilton was making all of the massive plays,

but he was safe with his body and taking care of himself and avoiding a hit. That's a talent, though. It is. Having that awareness is a talent, I think, that obviously you have to have if you're undersized. And if you don't, you'll be run out of league. You better have it because if you get hit, like let's say it's Vontaze catch you on the slant or

over route, those are mad collisions. Even that stuff though, I know he's not going to be running across the middle too much probably but from watching the dynasty and you see these old clips of the way guys used to get hit and then like now, that's not a thing anymore.

Look at, we talked about yesterday, Pittman getting folded up against the Steelers. Like, yeah, that's a massive hit. That was like an old school play. And the guy got ejected. You know, it's like, it's not, it's obviously a 15-yard penalty, but then there's obviously ejection behind it. What did you say?

It was an ejection. It was a clean play. Whenever you slow it down, he did, I mean, he tried his best not to. Even Mike Mitchell said it, Colt's safety coach. And I think Pittman even said, like, football happens. Which, by the way, Pittman, so happy he got tagged yesterday. But there was things that you wouldn't do back in the day as a wide receiver. Like, I am not leaving my feet and looking back at the quarterback.

Now it's very different. I think it's good. I think it's good for the humans. Sucks for defense. Defense is getting harder and harder. And back to the combine, because of this clip that came out of the new New Heights podcast,

which shows electrified. Crushing. Two goats at their respective positions in the NFL that's over 100 years old talking in their primes, pretty much. Now, obviously, Kelsey playing his best football retiring though at the peak and then you add in the fact that they're humble ohio dudes that just like love exactly dogs actual football people it's like a beautiful thing that's taking place and every time they have an episode we're obviously pulling and listening and

thinking about because like not only are they very popular these two are very good at the football yeah very so when they're speaking you should like as a football person like maybe listen Travis Kelsey opened up about the combine meetings a little bit on the new heights podcast and these are all just kind of you know like celebratory pretty much nowadays walk in what's your name where you from they try to ask a Walk in, what's your name, where you're from. They try to ask a lot of questions. What's your favorite kitchen appliance?

And if somebody says some silverware, it's like, idiot. This guy's dumb dumb. This guy's dumb dumb or whatever it is. They try to do those things, but now with how much prep everybody has for these meetings, and these meetings being around for so long, every question in the history of football has been asked. Pretty much everybody's prepped. Travis Kelsey said,

when I came in, it wasn't necessarily like that. I had some bad meetings. Listen to this one that he allegedly had with the Dallas Cowboys. At the combine, I had some bad interviews. The Cowboys, they were kind of pressing me about having this red flag of missing a year. Being suspended for a season.

Smoking weed. I don't know if I was having a bad morning. I basically was just, I don't even know if I want to say this. Time out. What'd you say? It ended really fast. I basically was just, I don't even know if I want to say this. Time out. What did you say? It ended really fast. I basically just said, if you guys think I'm going to be that kind of guy or you're questioning

if I'm still that person after everything that I've battled through to get to where I am now from missing a season, then you guys probably go somewhere else and pick somebody else. And they did that. That is exactly what they did. They absolutely did. The NFL, you know, they will find a way. If you are a player, they will move on.

But I appreciate it. I think his answer was good, though. And that was probably a prepped answer by Travis Kelsey. His agent probably told him, like, hey, you were going to be asked about missing a year because of a failed weed test or whatever. And I doubt that the Dallas Cowboys necessarily want a different way just because of that or if they had somebody else caught their eye. But isn't it crazy to think that back in the day, if somebody did have a failed weed test, that was potentially a reason

to not let them in the building? We are now at the point in the United States of America that there is 38 states where it is legal somehow. Medicinal or recreation. Recreation, 24 states. I'm no mathematician. I didn't get into Harvard. How many states are there? 50. Well, it's 24 recreation, and then you can count D.C. and Guam, which are not states, right?

Correct. Of course. Which I still don't understand how that happened with the whole D.C. thing. I don't know. District of Columbia? I mean, just make it its own state. But I don't understand how even...

Just join one of the two. No, no, no. Yeah, but at the beginning, when it started, how did it even... It's the capital. I don't know. But when it started, it wasn't the capital of the two. No, no, no. Yeah, but at the beginning, when it started, how did it even? It's the capital. I don't know. But when it started, it wasn't the capital, I suppose. No.

No, because it was another place. But how did that? So how did it, with everything everywhere else doing something, why were they just like completely different? Moved to D.C. I don't fully understand that. But nonetheless, recreational, legal in D.C. and Guam. So you would take it to 26, I guess.

And it's like how crazy time has kind of come full circle on that, because I assume that would have been a big red flag for Travis Kelsey coming out into the NFL. This guy failed a marijuana test. Now it's like our schools even testing for marijuana. Do we even hear that schools are testing for marijuana anymore? The NBA no longer testing for marijuana anymore. Do we even hear that schools are testing for marijuana anymore? The NBA no longer testing for marijuana. The NFL has always used marijuana as like a leverage piece in negotiation with the players. Like the players would be like, you know, we want less off-season workouts. You know, we want less because we feel like we're getting beat up.

And then we don't want three days anymore. And the owners would be like, you want weed? Yeah, we're going to get 20 games. Okay. And then the union will always say, we're not going to give up all of that just for marijuana or whatever. But it feels like we're nearing a place

where marijuana is probably going to get passed federally. You would think somebody with a brain would do that and say, you know what this is Actually pretty good business. We can maybe even ship these things to other countries is probably become a booming thing You don't have to worry about you know terrible potential marijuana getting brought into our country that fentanyl and killing people of scientists Actually working on it There's a lot of data and studies that say that oh instead of painkillers Which are obviously killing a lot of my friends a lot of people around the world it's like this is potentially something that could benefit that

like it's only a matter of time and i think that's what i took from that travis kelsey like kind of story there is a great answer on the thing i've worked my ass off to do that i was young i'm sorry i made a mistake but also nowadays if they're like uh heard you failed a weed test yeah all right thank you for being truthful let's move on uh whenever you do like it's a wild it's a wild time you have your own strain of weed yeah there's a guy named cheeks in here okay his name is his name and i've never met a human named cheeks but i'll tell you as soon as you meet a human named cheeks the it's a disarmer immediately yes it is your name's cheeks yeah it's a great name. Howdy, baby, Cheeks. Yeah. I'm going to say your name 50,000 times today. What's going on, Cheeks?

Massive smile. Oh, yeah. Cheeks has got the cheek. I don't know if that's how it started or if it's his last name, whatever the hell the case is, but he's in the marijuana industry, and it's like there's only a matter of time before we're all good. And thank God Andy Reid, when he drafted Travis Kelsey, didn't care. And thank God that Andy Reid brought Patrick Mahomes in there

because watching those two play football together has led to people robbing, fucking, freaking. Good catch. Good catch. Good catch. I don't think the C made it all the way. I didn't either. There's no K.

It depends. You got a jumpy umpire on third baseline, maybe. I measured the C, actually. I think it was. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. I think it was. I wonder what Dickson. I felt it in my.

That's why I'm saying from a being on the other end. You know when you go. You know when you go. They caught it, though? All right. I did go, though. I did go. That's on me.

But people are robbing banks to watch these two play football. And now, hopefully, in the future, not only will the NFL be in a better place because of eliminating a marijuana test,

but also the fact that that potentially slowed down a goat because of a mistake that was made when he was 19, a mistake that was made whenever he was 19 that every other human's doing is crazy to hear and that's why that podcast is so

phenomenal it's like just little gems being dropped out of two goats that we can all learn from and move forward with yeah and them being brothers like the chemist there's no like build to the chemistry like right away it was unbelievable no matter what and obviously you know their their conversations about footballers one thing but even just them talking as brothers and people. That's what I'm saying. Like, for people that were, like, hating the Taylor Swift stuff, it's like you're listening to two goats talk football here, too. Like, they have the – it is a great weapon.

And you saw who – I don't want to make a thing of this, you know. I don't want to make a big deal, but when Jason went off the stage there, first person was his brother, you know, and then his stage there, first person was his brother. Oh, yeah. And then his family there. They are a tight group. Oh, yeah, so tight. Very rarely stays that way. Jason, too, they check each other. There was one episode where Jason had to actually leave the podcast

and they had to continue to record it because Travis was just joking with him being on the excuse train. And then when the Taylor Swift stuff started, obviously there was all that hoopla around it. But Jason, he mentioned, hey, you did it to yourself. And they check each other, which, I mean, that's one of my favorite parts of the entire thing. But even just, like you mentioned,

you're listening to two people who know football better than everybody. Jason Kelsey is regarded as the greatest center of all time. I appreciate that he did a little in some circles the best center ever. One of the best centers ever. I appreciate that he acknowledged it because I assumed for a long time, anytime you said that to him, he was

ah, because there's other centers and he's in there. So I appreciate that he acknowledged that. But yes, you're listening to a guy who played 12 years in the NFL is regarded as the best in his position. We should listen to that. Yeah, and, like, during the combine week when all those guys were doing interviews, the actual players who were participating in the combine,

it was always like the, hey, build your perfect tight end, build your perfect center if they were interviewing a tight end or a center. And both of them are in every list. Like, every single player is involving those two just because of how good they are at football. Yeah, congrats to the Kelsey family. Keep going. You guys got it figured out seemingly. A couple Ohio people, a couple dogs.

Combine, obviously you get picked at six. Did you do interviews with everybody? Did interviews, yeah. I didn't go past nine though. My age was like no need to interview nobody that's in the top nine. Rosenhouse did this a couple years ago. Yeah, with Jalen Carter. Jalen Carter, the guy they're calling Human Ryan.

Human Ryan. Hopefully he gets to his full potential when he's in the NFL. Because what we saw that first year was phenomenal. Drew Rosenhouse, he's not interviewing anybody past 10. That's what he's doing. Everybody was like, don't you think you should? And Drew said, do you think this is my first?

Mary came on. He was very fired up about people questioning his intelligence for one of his... You think I'm going to tell one of my clients to do something he's not supposed to do? No. Never. I've been in this game a hundred years. Did that entire thing. You do the same thing? They be knowing, though. They know. Yeah, the agents know everything. They know.

Because here in Indianapolis. Yeah, they know. You have all these conversations. You get all the chatter. Actually, one of the conversations that took place in Indianapolis post 2 a.m. was revealed by James Palmer. Yeah, now obviously post-2 a.m. law conversations. Sure, always. Shouldn't be. Some say nothing good happens after 2 a.m.

No, I say midnight is what they move to to try to maybe make people, maybe one, two hours to think about what exactly is happening. Maybe 10 p.m. Right. But some cities start later than other cities. They do. Exactly. So, you know, you've got to kind of... Stay open. I was always really, I didn you've got to kind of... Stay open.

I was always really... I didn't fully grasp the statement when I was young. So that's why I didn't really adhere to it. Because I always thought to myself, well, you don't know what the nightlife in this city is like. They don't start until 11 anyway. So now you're doing the math. If it was supposed to start at like 9 or 10-ish,

midnight, so I'm adding two hours. So there's nothing good happening for 4 a.m.? You know what I mean? I do the entire math of the whole thing. It's tough to make the right decision in that situation for a while until you get arrested for a public intoxication. And then you get put in a substance abuse program.

The worst. The worst. The worst. And then you get tested eight times a month for 27 months. Long time. Long time. Then you got to call and report every time you leave your home.

Give them two phone numbers they can reach you and what address you'll be sleeping at because you never know when they're going to need your piss. What a lockout for you. The lockout came at the greatest time in the history of the NFL in my eyes. This is my perspective. Lockout came in the middle of my 27-month substance abuse program. So there's no testing for however many days it was. Yeah, so I got to have a good time a little bit.

I'll check back in. You got to reprieve. Yeah, so nothing good does happen after midnight if you're living in a certain way. But after 2 a.m., I think we all understand what those conversations potentially look like, especially if it's a place that's viewed as like an NFL spring break with a lot of people that know a lot of similar people and a lot of people shit-talking potentially a lot of people. Competitive people, football people, boozed-up people, maybe a Zinner 10. You know what I mean?

Who knows? Maybe an app that they ordered from like maybe four or five hours ago sitting in there, but it is getting touched. Mott sticks are frozen. We're diving in there. Maybe a little drool, potentially. Clean up your moth. Yep.

You know, conversations post 2 a.m. is how this was described from the Denver Broncos live podcast. But I guess there was one particular player that Boston Connor might have a little bit of interest in that was being chatted about around the bars of Indianapolis. This was a very hot button name in Indianapolis

after the hours of 2 o'clock. That's when the good stuff comes out. That's when the goods come out. I have no intel to the Broncos to this player but this would be an interesting type of comparison to that. Mack Jones. There are people that coach the quarterback position in Indianapolis that believe if Kyle Shanahan would have legitimately taken Mack

with the number three pick, which is kind of what he wanted to do in the first place, and then ended up getting talked out of it because Mack's probably ceiling wasn't very high and Trey Lance's ceiling was through the roof and why did you trade all of this for a guy with a ceiling that's about here? There's multiple guys told me this

in Indy. I think if he took Mack at three they would have won multiple Super Bowls by now. If Shannon had Mack Jones. He's got four Super Bowls. What are we even talking about? Mac Mahomes. Imagine some drunk-ass scout walking over to a Niner scout.

Oh, look who it is. Kyle Sane wants Mac Jones. Scouting department doesn't want Mac Jones. You guys messed that one. Oh, wow. Two, three Super Bowls probably. At least. Can we get a couple shots for a one. Oh, wow. Two, three Super Bowls probably. At least. We get a couple shots for a loser.

Yeah, yeah. That would be a hilarious thought about how it comes to that. But Mac Jones' name, I guess, has not been chatted about. No. Last year there was trade chatter about him maybe going to Las Vegas. Yeah, Vegas was one of them with McDaniels. Yeah, he was maybe going to Las Vegas, I think, last offseason. Now the whole question is, are they taking a quarterback at three?

I guess at first the belief was, yes, they're definitely going to take a quarterback. Now it's like, well, let's see what it is after all the grades come out. And then the amount of narratives that will change about these first three quarterbacks throughout draft season is going to be maybe 20 to 50 times. It'll just go. So I don't think any of us will fully know what to expect going into the draft. But like Mac Jones potentially traded, he'll be a member of the Patriots. What do you think is the outcome with Mac Jones as an avid Mac Jones supporter

for a time of your life, Boston Connor? For about two years, I'd say I am a Mac Jones supporter. I think I still would consider myself a Mac Jones supporter. I think the situation will solely depend, obviously, on the draft. I hope they like one or two guys, and obviously not Caleb. I hope they like one of the two others, and they take him at three and then be moved. They're saying like fifth round pick area is what they're thinking

they would get for him. But also, I wouldn't rule out him being back in New England because I think if they don't like him. That ship has not sailed. This is a Mason Rudolph potential situation with out him being back in New England. That ship has not sailed. This is a Mason Rudolph potential situation with Mac Jones coming back to New England. Personally, I wouldn't rule it. For those that don't know what the Mason Rudolph situation is,

Mason Rudolph went to Pittsburgh. We all remember the beginning of his career because he got bonked in the head by his own helmet on Thursday Night Football against Cleveland Browns. In front of everybody. Had his face mask removed. It was on the Today Show against Cleveland Browns. In front of everybody. Had his face mask removed. It was on the Today Show, Good Morning America.

Did you see these barbaric features from last night on Thursday night football? Then they do it in picture form instead of video form. And it's like helmet, helmet, good top of helmet side of head bonk his face like tom and jerry cartoon it did yeah it did that was back whenever football you know was kind of at the tail end of is this sport too physical is it good for the future or not so like boy everybody hated that that happened in that situation but things are going to happen a lot of uh tensions a lot of energy, a lot of emotions. We want people to care adamantly about what they're doing.

But then whenever some things cross the line, obviously it's going to be a big deal. Anyways, he did not play great football for the Steelers either during that time. So he was kind of hated by Pittsburgh quickly. And by hated, I mean we don't want this jag off as our quarterback or representation of the city of Pittsburgh. We need to get this guy the hell out of here. Steelers were sticking behind him, though. Adamant. Putting him in.

He would not do great. Pittsburgh would say, this guy sucks. This is Duck Hodges comes in and does his entire thing. Shout out to Duck. He's doing it. Keep going, Duck. Proud of you, Duck. He's talking about his relationship with Laney Johnson. I do believe that's what a lot of people were thinking, too. Hey, Duck. Hey, Doug. Proud of you, Doug. Hold. He's talking about his relationship with Laney Johnson.

I do believe that's what a lot of people were thinking, too. Hey, Doug. Hey, Doug. Love you, Doug. Anyways, Mason Rudolph gets benched inevitably, and they draft a quarterback, and everybody is like, thank God we'll never have to deal with Mason Rudolph again. He was actually getting chanted out of town, out of everything, and then as the Steelers season went on the way it did,

with the firing of a coordinator for the first time ever, seemingly, in Pittsburgh Steelers operations. Numerous quarterbacks. Mason Rudolph comes in and lights it up. And then the entire city of Pittsburgh was chanting Mason Rudolph's name. If Mac Jones comes back and plays good football, nothing matters. They will absolutely love him. But if he comes back and he stinks, right,

you guys are probably going to lose your shit. There's a lot of people that have already lost their shit, but that's the thing with Mac is that it was the reverse of that. And it is very easy to say Mac Jones stinks. I get that. He hasn't played well. Yeah, Matt Patricia is an offense coordinator. It affects Matt Patricia.

Yeah, exactly. Three different OCs in three different years. But, again, you can say he stinks. I'm not going to argue with that. It's very easy to say they went 4-13. But you don't come into the league as a rookie and go 10-7 and go to the playoffs if you're not going to quarterback. Pro Bowl.

Forget about the Pro Bowl. The Pro Bowl is fake. Well, he dreaded it for 50 yards. I was like, this is actually pretty cool. Yeah, that was sweet. But I just don't think passing up, just taking a quarterback because of how bad it went I think is the wrong move when there is a guy like Marvin Harrison Jr.

I mean, last year at the C.J. Stroud Pro Day, all anybody talked about was, yeah, C.J. Stroud's unbelievable, but God, Marvin Harrison Jr., I mean, that is a Lamborghini and no one can touch it because he isn't eligible yet. So if you're at three and you don't like the quarterback, take Marvin and then you roll with Mack for his last year. You're obviously not picking up his fifth-year option. But I could see teams like a Sean Payton where he's like,

yeah, I could see some Drew Brees and Mack Jones. I could see Sean Payton thinking now, this guy's accurate. You know, he doesn't have that – he's taller than Drew. Yeah, he plays pickleball. He likes cookies. I could see something along those lines. He's a dirty player. Yeah, he does pickleball. He likes cookies. I could see something along those lines. He's a dirty player. Yeah, he does.

He kicks people. He's a dirty player. He is a dirty player, which if he's on your own team. Doesn't he? He kicks people right into the... If he's on your own team, you don't hate dirty players. And anybody who played, I guarantee both of you had dirty players you played with, but I bet you loved them.

Montez. Pack might have been... I mean, Pack's trying to fight people. Yeah, exactly. Never one dirty, though though you need one of those guys on the team yes absolutely

and if he's on your team you like him but if he's not on your team and then if he's on your team and he stinks all those things start being viewed a different way

it's like the Russell Wilson stuff when Russell Wilson's winning everybody loves the Mr. Unlimited stuff. And then if you stink, this guy sucks.

Is this the corniest dude of all time? What is this guy? But if he wins, all the way back, like he's probably going to a Minnesota. If Kirk Cousins is going to Atlanta, which Kyle Pitts has told us that maybe that isn't as sign-sealed, delivered as we potentially believed just yesterday.

We had Mike Florio on. Mike Florio, founder of Pro Football Talk, has been covering the NFL forever. Rumors, happenings, news, everything. He's been there. ProFootballTalk.com was the home screen of pretty much every person that I've seen in an NFL building for a while. When you walk into somebody's office, it's like normally ProFootballTalk.com would be on there for the day. What are the rumors that are potentially happening through the day? A lot of people obviously use information, I'd assume, through ProFootballTalk to get out there and things like that. That is the game and the name of the game.

He is not a journalist. He's a lawyer. He's a lawyer, writer, blogger. Yeah, he is a West Virginia guy. Paisan, author, everything like that. So he was basically piecing together that Kirk Cousins was going to Atlanta. He had heard that there has been credible indications.

Right. Couldn't corroborate it quite yet. But, no, not this one. He's talking about going to school down there oh right yeah her his wife's family's from down there he's potentially looking at houses which is maybe to go hang out with grandparents would make sense but they do need a quarterback i mean there's a lot of questionable things just necessarily doing that but the internet just said like okay he's going there then yesterday on the show whenever he said he did say that he couldn't

corroborate it. Yes. But he also said that, you know, Kirk has already reached out potentially to Kyle Pitts while he's here. He's not 100% sure. But he's here and he's already reached out to Kyle Pitts for the jersey number eight. Kyle Pitts responded. Kyle Pitts put a tweet out and he said, he doesn't say anything these days.

He's a clown. He just said, this actually is funny. You guys come up with anything. So I assume what Florio will say is he didn't deny it. Yeah. Nope. He didn't deny it. He right there.

But I do appreciate the fact that Mike Florio also mentioned there. I have not confirmed this, but I'm hearing rumblings of, which is always a good. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Always say anything you want. Yeah.

You certainly can. I'm hearing rumblings, not confirmed. This is this. which is always a good little... Oh, yeah. You can say anything you want. Yeah, you certainly can. I'm hearing rumblings, not confirmed, this is this. That's why Florio's been doing it for 35 years or whatever it is. But it is fascinating that Kirk Cousins' Atlanta relationship seems to be in a lot of people's heads done, which means the Vikings are looking for a quarterback, and they could potentially get one for $1.21 million in Russell Wilson. Yeah, which would be awesome for them.

And, you know, I think Kyle did the old, just read the headline there and didn't listen to the two-minute and 22-second clip where Florio did say about the Kyle Pitts number thing that he could not corroborate it, but he heard it. It's something that could be happening. But, you know, I mean, that's fine, but Kirk's going to be in Atlanta. So, like, here's what Florio actually said yesterday about it, but this is the exact thing we were talking about

with these information accruers. Yes. Taking things and putting it out as their opinion, but it's being relayed so much like a game of telephone as a thing of fact. Now, Florio definitely mentions it. Yes, he does. Definitely mentions it.

Brings it up on his own. And in our eyes, we're like, damn, but he did not. We had to listen to it back because we saw this whole thing going. We saw Kyle Pitts. Here's what Florio had to say about it. Up to and including, I haven't confirmed this part yet, but it's just one of those little things that makes

sense. You know, talking to the guy who currently wears number eight, Kyle Pitts, about getting number eight before any of this stuff is so so when you're hearing this you're just hearing this from people that are in the know at the time here's what happens in this case in this case and i gotta be careful because i can't disclose names but you have very loyal readers of the site who when they find something out however they find it out they want to share it with you so then you get it and you vet it

through people who know and then the end result is, holy shit, that tip was right. Holy crap, this stuff is happening. And that's why you're hated. And that's why some people get very mad when Florio potentially gets something. I mean, look, I think people get mad because they don't want bad news about their team. So there's a knee-jerk reaction to dismiss anything that you don't want to hear. Valid. Oh, that's valid.

But he did say, I can't confirm this up until he did a song and dance about the whole game. And then readers send in stuff, and then he has to confirm it. You're an Atlanta native, Pac, although you call Cincinnati home now because of your time at the Bengals and everything that you've done there in the community and business-wise and everything like that. Atlanta, would like Kirk Cousins as quarterback or no? I think so, yeah. And they'll probably pay him a guaranteed contract. They're missing a quarterback. I think

they will. Yeah, Arthur Blank was going to pay however much to Sean Watson. Remember, he was in the run 180, whatever it had to be. Whatever it was, 180, 200 that had the Cleveland Browns come in over top at 230 or whatever the number actually ended up being. So they've been in the market before for a quarterback in the big time.

Kirk Cousins throws the ball all over the place. Yes, Kirk can do it. Yeah, has success everywhere he goes. And I think he's beloved by everybody because he's exactly who he is. He's a nerd. Yes. That is what Kirk Cousins is. And he addresses it and loves it.

I'm excited to watch the whole quarterback carousel take place. Joining us now from a whole other sport. Hell yeah. He's back. Ladies and gentlemen, a man that we love. A man who played 15 years in the NBA. Absolute stud.

Ladies and gentlemen, getting thinner by the moment. Kendrick Perkins. How are you, Perk? What's up, fellas? Hey, we appreciate you joining us, man. We enjoy talking to you about the NBA. We don't know a lot, but every time we talk to you, it feels like we come out of it with our own opinions because they're yours.

Hey, Pat, man. It's good to see you. Good to see the fellas. It's been a minute. Y'all ready to get a rock and roll? I'm glad we got that secondary sport out the way. It's time for the voices to play now. What are you talking about?

Pickleball? What sport are you? What are you talking about? Football? I'm just,? What are you? You're talking about football? I'm just, hey, you know I had the ruffler felt. Okay, all right. Hey, the NBA has been doing a fantastic job. Now, the All-Star game stuck. It stunk, I think is what everybody said. It wasn't that entertaining.

Hopefully, that was going to be better. And I got faith that they'll make it better in the future. Yes, they will. Silver will do it. Yeah, they'll do it, Perk, right? That'll get figured out, right? I mean, Adam Silver is going to figure it out, right? Like he's been

I think his ideas and the way he's been fixing problems has been a blessing for the NBA. So if there's no other person that I trust more, it's Adam Silver. He'll figure it out. But, look, it's money.

You got to pay money. You got to pay the money. If the players have the money to make them compete, I think that's going to enhance and up the competition in the All-Star game. So, I think you got to increase the incentives. You know, the team win, you got to say, to say, each guy gets $500,000. You saw how guys went so hard in the in-season tournament to make that

extra little bag. Yeah, you're right. And can't you just get a sponsor to maybe put that up and be the hero that saved the All-Star game? There has to be someone. Adam Silver will figure it out. And these guys are working, by the way. So them expecting money while working and being... Other people are making money, right?

So let's go ahead and figure this out. Hopefully they'll be able to do it because that could be a spectacular event that does launch into the time of year in which the NBA alongside the NHL is king, you know, as this NFL season kind of wraps up, as you get a call from Adam Silver saying, good idea, Perk. That's what Adam Silver was just calling to say there. Hey, so let's talk about this. And it's a basketball convo that's been happening in sports media forever.

I have kind of a different take on it. LeBron James, first player ever to hit 40,000 points. Way to go, LeBron. Way to go, LeBron. And I grew up in the era of LeBron, so I'm a massive fan. I enjoy everything about the story of LeBron James. Where in high school school he was being said that he was going to be this guy. This is what they were saying

about him as a teenager whenever his brain was nowhere near fully developed and he was in situations that are very difficult and was able to navigate them at such a young age and has kept his ass seemingly out of it. He's said some dumb things I think everybody

would acknowledge. Sure. But we've watched him literally grow in front of all of us with the expectations of an entire sport and world on his shoulders. I think he's handling it well. Yep. Hey, Bron, way to go. You bet, Bron. Somebody who's never met you, I want to let you know, watching along through the era,

like I think you've handled the pressure better than any human that I've ever seen. As LeBron calls Park and tells him, hey, I didn't say anything stupid ever. Anyways, let's move along here. The conversation has always been LeBron or Jordan, LeBron or Jordan. And then I watched that last dance, and I wasn't a big NBA follower. I grew up in Pittsburgh. We have an NHL team, so you follow the sport of hockey. I would watch the Lake Show late at night because I couldn't sleep.

You know, Kobe Shaq playing, I would enjoy that. But, like, wasn't an avid NBA fan. I watched that last dance. They're not playing the same sport now as they were playing then. It's two different sports. So anytime people started getting into the debate, is it Jordan or is it LeBron, I was like, well, that is literally, I think they're playing two different sports.

I don't think that's the right debate. I think the debate is, is basketball similar enough now to what it was then to actually have a numbers-to-numbers conversation with each other? And then now there's an internet post going around that's basically from when Kobe played versus what basketball is now with the amount of space on the floor and how wide open it is. You've got guys scoring 70 and 60 and everything like that. Is the game at a place where it's going to continue to evolve

in that particular manner, or do you think it's going to go backwards as we roll forward here? What do you think about basketball, like how it's played now versus what it was and what's going to happen in the future? You know what? It's hard because guys in today's game, you take guys like Jokic, Luka, Joel Embiid, Shea Gillis, Alexander, and they're so skilled. The fucking evolution, right, of the game of basketball offensively,

guys are so skilled now. But you think about the lack of physicality right and this is a problem another problem that i feel like the nba has to fix right adam silver has to get right and that's the actual physicality part of being allowed to actually play defense right and not let the ref somewhat dictate the game. Because nowadays you can't even touch a guy to fight to get over a damn screen. Or you can't even, you know, chuck a guy to try to make a case, you know, to try to stop something.

So it's so hard, but I feel like we're in a point in time where it's like this. When you look at Braun, Braun played in two eras, to be honest with you. We're talking about 21 years. We both came in in 2003 when the game was played at Boxers and Elbows. When it was a low post type of game.

Well, scores were at the end of the game, scores were like 85 to 89. We played in that in 2003 to about 2008. Like, it was in the fucking trenches. But now we're to the point where you have all this spacing and a lot of analytics, you know, has affected the game for us, you know, the three-point shooting and stuff to that nature.

So I agree, agree pat it is a problem that we need to fix we do have a problem in the nba the lack of physicality and we got to find a way to put that back into the game of basketball because i think like the all-star game and it's reason why i brought it up was like a great depiction of that because i think like in football and we're not saying that football hasn't figured out either. No, no, no. But at the end of the Pro Bowl game when they were going 11 on 11 with pads, you would see like guys' physicality levels, they'd like cut

them in like a third. It'd be like a 33% of how physical the person is. So if the person is a very physical person, it's still going to be like a third of that, but they're going to be more physical in that Pro Bowl game than somebody who isn't physical. I feel like basketball is probably the same way. Like hey, in the All-Star game, we're going to be like a third of that, but they're going to be more physical in that Pro Bowl game than somebody who isn't physical. I feel like basketball is probably the same way.

Like, hey, in the All-Star game, we're going to go like 40% here. But if you're 100% is what it used to be, like if you're not physical and then you're cutting out effort and cutting out physicality, you're down to like nothing, which is why that All-Star game becomes it. And I think people enjoy points in offense, but at some point it just gets like, these guys aren't even trying out here. With that being

said, is that why Joker dominates in the playoffs? Is that why the big guys in the physical basketball whenever we get to the playoffs are the ones that inevitably are going to win in the end? No, Jokic dominates in basketball because he's just a fucking great

player. There's no other way around it, right? I watched him the other night when I was down here and they played against the Los Angeles Lakers. And I was sitting up here telling my, I was thinking to myself, I was like, this dude is really one of one. We're talking about a guy that, you know, doesn't play above the rim. That solely, his game is solely surrounded by his skill set, meaning the way he gets to his spots, the craftiness he has around the basket, his up and unders, his pump fakes, his jump hooks,

his passing ability. He's a big fella that's 280 pounds, 7 foot, that could come off of fucking pin-down screens. Like, think about that for a second. So, when I look at Jokic and I think about Jokic and how he dominates, it's the mixture of both. He has the physicality and he has the finesse game, which brings it all in one. Yeah, but he's white, Perk. So, you hate him. Yeah, that too. That too, Pat. Yeah,, but he's white, Perk. So you hate him.

Yeah, that too. That too, Pat. Yeah, yeah. That's why, you know. Wasn't he the reason? He was the reason. Oh, yeah, he was the reason. Wasn't Joker the reason that you were labeled the racist Kendrick Perkins last year? Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Yes, yes. That was the fucking reason. You know how you shut me up about going out there and actually getting the job done like he did and actually winning the championship in the finals mvp yeah you're not scared to change your opinion upon further review no no you're no there's no yeah you're not i don't you think i hate this guy because he's whiter than all the

whites that i know he's the whitest looking human of all time? No, just to me, I don't know yet, is what you said. And then they said, oh, Perkins knows. He knows. He knows it's the whole milk situation. It's the Wonder Bread situation. That's what they said immediately upon you saying that. And then now listening to you break down his game,

it's like I wonder if any of them are like, maybe Park didn't just hate that he was a Caucasian. Yeah, maybe. Nobody will ever say that, though. You know what's crazy? With that whole situation, right, nobody ever talked about how I always praised Jokic and said he's arguably the most skilled big man to ever, skilled center to ever play the game of basketball.

Nobody ever said that, right? They just took what they fucking wanted to take out of the MVP conversation and forget whatever else I said great about Jokic. But you know, that's the world we live in. Yeah, it's a narrative, buddy. That doesn't help the narrative that they wanted to go there. You know what I mean? And I heard you said that one time,

I got a white friend! I heard you say that. And that's normally one of the biggest issues. Let's move along here. So last night, Kelsey bobblehead night, we actually got them shipped to us. Very cool addition to the office at the Cleveland Cavaliers game.

And because Travis was there, that means the Swifties were watching. And I heard the NBA rigged the game last night for the Cavaliers to beat the Celtics. Now, that is what Connor came in and said. They did it, Perk. He's a big-time Celtics fan. They did it. They said the Kelseys were crying all day. We need to give them a smile.

So let's make sure the Cavs win. That's what they did, Perk. So is Taylor Swift having an effect on the NBA now is my question with her power. Or is the Kelseys just such a radiant force that when they're in the building, it is positive vibes in big dubs like it has been for the Chiefs and like it's been for the Eagles for a long time. Is that what it is? I think it's a combination of everything.

When I say everything, I look at it like this, Pat. I always look at the two Ps. Popular and powerful. You know, anybody could be popular in today's world, right? But it takes a certain type of individual or individuals to be powerful, meaning moving the needle. You know, Travis Kelsey, Jason Kelsey, Taylor Swift, they're powerful people.

They actually move the fucking needle. You think about that game last night. I've been saying this since the All-Star break. The playoffs in the NBA has officially started. With the addition of the play-in tournament that I believe has been

one of the brightest spots in the NBA over the last three or four years. But you think about that game last night. You have the Cavaliers who was fighting to hold on to the number two seed. You got the Boston Celtics coming off a – Yeah, they're fighting. They're in the fight with the Milwaukee Bucks right now.

Hey, way to go, Cleveland. Yeah, they only have a game out of the number two spot. So they're trying to hold on to that. You know, you think about just the intensity level. They was down double figures against a great

Boston Celtics team, no Donovan Mitchell. They're at the crib, and all of a sudden they come back and get that win. Travis does a speech. Of course. Jason does a speech. Gave him a jersey. Down 22, is that what it was? In the fourth. Down 22 in the fourth, and then they hit 12 straight shots in the fourth.

The Cleveland Cavaliers are some dogs. What other teams should we be looking at? Obviously, I saw the Celtics win by 50. Yeah, Celtics have won three games by 50 this year. First team ever in NBA history. Okay, so the Celtics are by 50. Yeah, Celtics have won three games by 50 this year. First team ever in NBA history. Okay, so the Celtics are going to be good, obviously. The Celtics, look, the Celtics should be the favorite to represent the Eastern Conference. How about the whole thing?

How about the whole thing? I wouldn't go there far. Okay, I wouldn't go there far. They are in the weaker conference. But I will say this. They should make it to the NBA finals, but when you go to that West, this is what I want y'all to start

locking in at. I don't even want to get into the conversation of who's going to represent the West, but I will say this. The playoffs really have started for the Western Conference. Every single game that you see that involves the Pelicans, the Suns,

the Kings, the Mavs, the Lakers, and Golden State is playoff. It's like now or never because all of these teams are fighting to get into the actual playoffs or stay into the playoffs and get out of the play-in tournament. And then when you look at the top of the Western Conference, you have those three teams, the Timberwolves, the Oklahoma City Thunder, and the Denver Nuggets all battling to get that number one spot so that they can have home court advantage throughout the postseason.

I'll tell you this. Look, I really believe, I strongly believe, that this is going to be one of the best post-seasons that we've ever seen. Okay, Wemby! I mean, Wemby's not going to make it, but the entire cell that you just gave is phenomenal right there. Like, I am pumped. Every single game is a playoff game for every team that we pretty much get to watch every single night. It seems like.

It's what I'm hearing. Yeah, it's incredible. I like that the Pelicans are in it. I like that Zion is going to be dancing. I like that he's playing. I think he's right. We're all good. Zion, all clear.

Tell her not. But yeah, I saw some evil tweets over the break. From who? I just saw someone that said that he was going to be out for the game because he got a brain freeze from Dairy Queen. That's what someone tweeted, and I didn't like that. I didn't like that. Yes, they did. I'll pull up the tweet right now. I will send it to Zito

right now. It was messed up. I actually didn't even like the tweet. Well, I'm happy you didn't like it. You should have muted the person that sent it and said, I don't want to see this person ever again. I'll never see him again because I talked to my phone. I said, hey, don't show me this again. Okay, smart phones. Figure that out. But I'm glad I broughtall brought up Zion Williamson because the Pelicans are actually my sleeper team of coming out of the Western Conference.

The Pelicans? Whoa. The Pelicans. They're my sleeper. They're not my favorite. They're my sleeper team to come out of the Western Conference. Okay. This team doesn't get talked about enough,

but like my grandmother used to say, they got old souls, baby. They may be young, but they got old souls, baby. When I think about the depth that they have at the wing position, which is, by the way, in my opinion, the most important position in the NBA. They have great depth. They're led by a guy, Trey Murphy.

He is phenomenal, phenomenal at that wing spot. I think Zion playing all season is good for the NBA. I think Zion in the playoffs is good for the NBA. I also like the fact that Zion isn't getting caught up in any, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Huh? Feels like we're, right?

New Leaf. Yeah. Straight and narrow. Everything. That baby Zion. Keep going, Zion. I'm proud of him. That's development.

Hey, he's the public eye. He's the Duncan's. He's 13. Now he's playing the Pelicans. He made sleeper team. Doesn't mean they're going to happen. But if it was to happen, just know that I told you earlier, you guys are sleeping on a team.

Speaking of a team, I was looking at that Spurs wait bottom right. Spurs are bottom right there. Connor's got a question for you, Perk. Yeah, big Perk. Obviously, Wen Bon Yama is an absolute spectacle to watch. The things that he has been doing is ridiculous.

Last night, he had a tough night. That's gonna happen sometimes to Wemba on Yama but what do you think kind of the projection for him is going forward because like Pat just mentioned they are one of if not the worst team in the NBA do you think after this year you know this will be kind of like a hey let's throw a lot of this out the door and just make sure that Wemby knows that he's going to get 30 shots a game going forward? Or how do you see that progression? And do you think guys will actually want to go to San Antonio to play for Popovich and play with Wemby? Well, guys do want to go to San Antonio.

And we have to remember that Damian Lillard actually has San Antonio on his list because of Victor Wimby Yama. And look, I know a lot of trolls out there got in their feelings about some things I said on NBA Today about the Spurs being on the clock, but it's the truth. Because let me tell you something, Victor Wimby Yama, I strongly believe in the next three years is going to be the best player in the NBA on both ends of the floor.

Let's go, Webby! Let's go. I see him. This thing from last night, he swats, takes it down, shakes, step back. I mean, it's phenomenal. But look, he's leading the league in blocks right now, and he's still getting adjusted to the NBA game.

But here's what I will say. Damn. This young man, he wants to win. And he wants to win now. And so you got to respect that. And when you look at Greg Popovich and you look at the San Antonio Spurs, look at what Wimpy is playing with right now.

I mean, to be honest with you, we could go out there and play alongside Wimpy and have the same record right now. They have to upgrade they have to upgrade the personnel around this young man and look he has made this an attractive place it is eye candy to a lot of young stars and superstars that will want to go play alongside of him hey shannon tone i was just down there. Beautiful city. Gorgeous. Great people. Passionate group of people.

And we were going to ask a couple more questions, but we're coming up on a hard out. So we'd like to take this time to have a little celebration. Perk, you dropped seven F-bombs on ESPN. That's the most in our show's history. I've shown me this good history. For sure. I've shown you the history of the network, Perk.

You just, hey, wait, hey. Way to go, Perk. Shave the bar, Perk. Way to go, Perk. That is shaving the bar. Hi, hi. Almost struck out the side. Seven is a lot.

You did. You did. You did. All right, way to go, Perk. We appreciate the hell out of you, buddy. I appreciate y'all. Thank y'all, man. Looking forward to talking to y'all guys again.

Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Kendrick Parker. There it is. Seven of them. That was incredible. Seven of them. You could feel them coming towards the end. Yeah, you knew.

So I think what happens, obviously, first two hours, we don't say that. There's a couple words that have literally been contractually agreed to. No one to say, Dornan. And if it does, it will get muted. Everything else wide open. Here we go. Hilarious negotiation. Had to be the first anybody has ever had.

But then making cases for words and then showing examples in which they could potentially be used and how we need that. I can't not have that. The soul of the show has to remain. I'll give up.

That's the word we enjoy. We won't say it. It's the greatest word of all time. For sure. But we won't say it. Perk just coming in dropping seven of them is maybe the greatest thing I've ever watched. He doesn't care. Awesome. I think what happens is a lot of people see our third hour. Yeah. And then they see clips.

Third hour just on YouTube, ESPN+. TikTok as well. Whatever you want to say. I get some messages from people that don't know that I think they're potentially watching on ESPN Plus. TikTok as well. Whatever you want to say. I get some messages from people that don't know that I think they're potentially watching on ESPN Plus. And as soon as we're off on ESPN, somebody lets a buzzsaw off. They're like, well, my kids were just... So we will delay a little bit more. We will delay.

We will allow... 205. Yeah, the delay to take place. Because that is very valid. I can understand because people do watch on ESPN Plus. But Perk, that's every single interview we've had with him. Oh, yeah. He has done it. He rips it. Yeah. He's very valid. I can understand because people do watch on ESPN+. But Perk, that's every single interview we've had with him. Oh, yeah. He has done it.

He rips it. Yeah. He's the man. He did help, though, a couple different times. Oh, yeah. He needed it. Good and fastest. Yeah.

Drove it home. With the O.K. Point would not be proven if he didn't say it. Nope. How about the Cavs are good? They're good. I did not know that. T-Wolves are the one seed?

Are you kidding me? What, dude? For 18 games last year. T-Wolves are unbelievable. Okay, see? Yeah. Every game's a playoff game for like 10 of the Western teams. Let's go.

Playing is going to be biblical. Hey, NBA's doing it. Let's go. Boards are amazing, and we're talking about all of them. The Talks at the Table is here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt with an incredibly fly shirt on your ChessCon man. Today might be the best Boston Conner day I've ever seen. Wow.

This is coming just a couple of days removed from the worst Boston Conner day I've ever seen when you debuted that brand new tattoo and had your arm looking like an 85-year-old grandma's. I think I've kind of built some definition over these last two days. A lot of wiggle and jiggle there, but the tattoo is awesome. I would like to let you know. Ty Schmidt, whenever we're talking about Mac Jones and all this other stuff in the first hour,

are you just thanking your football gods and your lucky stars about Jordan Love being a home run? Yeah, absolutely, and just wait. You're out of this conversation. Yeah, yep, don't have to worry about it at all. Now, everything in the draft, everything in my brain, my brain power is, hey, Packers need to go out and draft Cooper DeGene in the first round. Need to get him. Have to get him.

If they don't get him, I will be incredibly disappointed. Will Compton broke the news that Cooper DeGene was not going to work out at the combine because he was scared to display a potential whiteness that was not seen in the past and maybe drop him in some draft boards. Yeah, absolutely not. He is a freak athlete. I think if anything, if he would have been at the Combine, I think he would have improved his stock immensely.

Broke his leg. That's why he ended last year early. So I believe he is going to be doing stuff at Iowa's Pro Day. But I've seen a lot of mocks that have him slotted going to the Packers. I mean, if that happens, I tell you what, my head will explode on draft night. You would, actually. Oh, yeah. Mad-mo Kuyper's brain.

Yeah, and in my pants. I would, I mean, it would be. Like Michael Cole with those antlers. Bingo. Exactly. On live TV. Boyhood dream come true. Same situation.

So, that's all. I'm just laser-focused, tractor beam on that until draft night. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys, tongueue Diggs. What are you gambling on right now on Hammer, Don? NBA, NHL, college basketball, footy, golf. Geez.

Spring training. Those are spring training. We're going to wait until opening day, which is in a couple weeks. You just heard the sounds of a man who maybe has a little bit of an issue with this task. 1-800. You should only be gambling on the things that you know. You should only be spending your money thinking that you're potentially going to lose it.

You got to be smart. You can't be dumb. With that being said, the boys got a good eye on these books. Oh, yeah. Which sport are we really picking them apart right now? Me is more of a golf. Gumpy is just locked in on CBB. The NHL has been tearing me apart.

Who's the school that I've never heard of that you've profited from this particular college basketball season, Gumpy? Chicago State. Chattanooga, actually, once again, is a moneymaker, as they always are. Chicago State and Chattanooga, or Chicago State-Chattanooga? Is that one school? Two squads there. Chattanooga is always a moneymaker.

They are a cover machine. Yeah, and the books never give them any respect. No, we're coming up on conference tourney time, so you're finding out who the actual big teams are right now. Yeah, but you are a human because the books can only, you know, they only have so many eyes. Now, there's so many algorithms, and obviously you can pump it in, and that will give you a feel.

But if you're stealing a point or two from the book on these Chicago State games because they potentially don't have enough eyes to cover all the college basketball thing, you can profit, and Gumpy has. He's got a brand-new chain he's got wrapped around his neck. We got Europa League tomorrow, too. Ain't nobody looking at those lines. Yeah, nobody's watching it. Yeah, we're diving in.

Hey, Gumps, we appreciate you. Go work in the Hey, Gumps, we appreciate you. Hey, Gumps. Good working back, boys. We also are joined by NFL legend, West Virginia Mountaineer legend, and a currently signed rapper. He's about to launch his second song here. Has that been announced? March 15th. March 15th. There we go.

There's your Pac-Man, Jones. Pac-Man. Pac-Man, I'm excited for March 15th. Standing on business. Coming out. It's a banger. SLB. It is a banger.

It is. The sample's good, too. Yeah. Everything's a banger. SLB! It is a banger. The sample's good, too. Everything's great. Feels like you're going to do this, right? Yeah, we are. We're going to do it. You have a studio in the house. Yeah, downstairs.

I put up my own studio. I took out one of the, how should I say it, one of my theater roles. Sure. Of course. Diggs took out one of his theaters. Yeah, we always – Yeah, you always move one of your theaters. You have to. Yeah, you get one of your other theaters to take care of what this theater's doing here.

Go ahead and get the booth in there. Yep. I saw some big news about Junior. Yeah. Chris Henry Jr., obviously, you're one of, I guess, the best friend of Chris Henry Sr., Slim, West Virginia Mountaineer legend who passed away. You took on his entire family pretty much into your family. Chris Henry Jr. happens to be 6'6", runs a 4'4", 200-some pounds.

Jeez. Could go to college to play basketball. Wants to be a wide receiver, though, because obviously, you know, it's in his family. He's transferring to where? Yeah, modern day. Who? Matter Day. Modern Day. Matter Day?, modern day. Who? Matter Day. Modern Day.

Matter Day? Modern Day. Modern Day? Modern Day. What is that? Modern? Matter Day? Modern Day.

I'm screwed out in Cali. Okay, yeah, modern day. That's a big one. Yeah, that's like your IMG. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is. It used to be that IMG. It's the best of the best.

I think he's reached the height of – he's done – I mean, what's the word I should say? He have peaked in Cincinnati with Coach Jones being gone. It just didn't make sense. So, the better situation, playing against the best talent that you can possibly play against. So, make him better. Yeah, make him better, good culture. And they're the number one team in the nation right now, too. Okay, so he's got to work at it.

He's got everything. Oh, yeah, he's got to work at it. You're excited to watch? Yeah. Yeah. Dog. Dog. But basketball, I mean.

Are you worried that California football is soft and send him out there? California, what, they didn't want to tackle football? Is that what was happening? I saw that on the internet. National schedule. Did you see that? I think it was something like that.

They were trying to, or certain divisions or whatever were trying to eliminate it. I forget. I forget exactly how. I think it was something like that. They were trying to – or certain divisions or whatever were trying to eliminate it. I forget exactly how. I read it. I saw it. And I was like, I don't even want to hear about this. Yeah, come on. I don't even want to hear about this.

What a joke. I thought that was what 707 for. Yeah, that's not tackle for. Yeah, boom. We got not tackle for. We already got that. Now, if they're saying for, like, five-year-olds or whatever, it's like, okay. Sure, makes sense.

If that makes sense. But, like, football's good. Team sports are good things are we need more of that not less of that now there are some videos that hit the internet of coaches that have no idea how to run drills and there are some drills that we certainly need to ban and outlaw and we're probably not good for anybody that's a part of it but like sports are a good thing you know that learning discipline accountability working while tired, how to fit in, how to deal with people, how to continue to go whenever you just

lost. It's like, we need more sports, not less sports. But I'm happy to hear that about Junior, man. And we see some basketball highlights of him. Is he going somewhere to play both? He don't want to play both. We already had to talk about it. We already had to talk back.

Dude, we're talking 6-6, right? Yeah. Wiggle. And then through the rack, to the rack, through the lane, and then just jog. Not ridiculous afterwards, too, just casual jog back. It's like he knows there's not a lot of humans built. He knows that, right? Yeah.

Okay, good. He does whatever the hell he wants. Congrats to him congrats to you can't wait to watch that whole house pac-man jones has an entire house yep there's gonna be like eight d1 his daughter just won athlete of the year yeah my daughter gonna miss the mistake boom boom track scholarship for a ride got a nice little nil deal too really shout out? Shout out to Zanaya, man. Yeah, shout out to NIL, too. Shout out to NIL. Shout out to you, too, taking on the responsibility, you and Tish. A lot of people.

You know, that doesn't get talked about much in the grand scheme of things, but I assume whenever all of them are professionals in their level, they say, how'd you get here? It's like, there's this one particular universal signed rapper, former professional football player, comes from a place that not a lot of people make it out of, who showed us the way. Even though he made some mistakes, showed us the way,

showed us the work ethic and everything. You should be proud of that. I assume Junior's pumped about it. Going to Mount Maude, Mount Maude. Joining us now is a man who is, you know, a guy who probably heard about football being eliminated, tackle football being eliminated from places. You say, well, how does life even work if that's the case?

Joining us now, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, absolute stud, ladies and gentlemen, Adrian Hall. Adrian, we need more sports playing, not less sports playing in the world, AJ. Yeah, we do. And I thought, yeah, I believe somewhere in California they were trying to put it to a vote to ban tackle football or contact or whatever. But can't you just, if you don't want to play tackle football, just don't have your kid play tackle football, right? Have him play flag football and let the other people play tackle. No, you got to remember, if you don't like something, though, you need to eliminate it completely, not just stay away from it.

That's 2024. I think, don't you think a lot of people that want to ban something like that probably don't know a whole lot about what goes on, on the practice field and the game field? No, they've certainly looked into both sides of it. They understand it completely. They have heard all the benefits and pros and all the stories of people telling about lives being saved and transformed.

They heard all that. They just, with their big brains have decided, we don't think there should be an option for anybody because we care about the world more than everybody else does. That's what it is, AJ. I guess it is, yeah. We are better people than you.

That's what they're telling us. Don't you eat. We are better people than you, AJ. Oh, AJ, don't you eat. We're just dumb cavemen, I thought, right? Aren't we just dumb meathead cavemen? Hey, you just started doing politics there, and I don't like it. Yep, don't do it.

I don't like what you're saying. Because everybody knows that when you're in politics, whoever's talking is a much better person than the other person. Every single time, no matter what. Let me explain to you why I'm a better person than this person. Why is that? I don't even think football should exist. Whoa.

Whoa. Are you sure that's the statement you want to make? Yeah. Have you seen the studies of what happens to some of these football players as they hop on a high horse? Have you seen the movie with CTE, Will Smith, who's a doctor out of South Africa? Nobody should be able to play that game. Is that how we want American citizens' lives to go? In a van underneath a bridge who can't remember anything?

That is why I'm a better human than you are. And the game should be banned completely. And I'm happy that you see it the same way that I do. And you're a hero alongside me. Of course. That's how it goes, AJ. Yep, that is how it

goes. And we are in election season now for a while, so we will see plenty of it. Done deal. So much. So pumped. Think about all the barns right now that are being loaded with high horses. The high horse barns are just out. It's like Christmas tree season

at the Christmas tree park. Exactly. Hey, how can I get one of those high horses? Yep. I need the highest one of all time. I need the one that's going to ride me right into it. I'm a better human than you are at absolutely everything. That's what I need. That's what they're doing right now, going stable to stable. Yep. Yep. Who has the highest horse of them all?

Well, we know. Not even getting into that. AJ, some big news. Kyle Pitts basically laughed in Mike Florio's face yesterday after not listening to the clip, but hearing, reading potentially what it was said. And Florio's certainly doing this, too. He knows exactly what he's doing in the entire thing.

This actually is funny. You guys come up with anything. So all eyes are on Kirk Cousins potentially going to Atlanta. We got a text message in the middle of the show. Ooh, whoa. From an Italian man. Hmm. Okay.

Coach for 36 years in football. Yep. That's right. And there's it down. 18 in college, 18 in the NFL. I think I know who it is now. It's currently. I don't know if it's edibles or drinking on vacation.

Crushing. Very active. Tanned. Thumbs are very active. Very tanned right now. Think he's living a good life. He says, Kirk Cousins to Atlanta makes most sense because new OC

in Atlanta is Zach Robinson who, oh, by the way, is from the same offensive system as KOC in Rams and McVay. That isn't even something that we have put into the conversation at all. All roads are leading there.

Is that what we're thinking right now? I mean, I don't know. Because now that this has not been disputed completely, because Pitts just said that number conversation didn't happen, and Florio also obviously said he doesn't know if that happened. But I still go back to the Fields video over break that we kind of all saw that his manager put out of him jumping up and down in his kitchen saying i'm going home like that still feels like something home is pittsburgh

okay but i try to adjust him fields yeah i try to split for no because i guess what i got i read a tweet while i was taking a leak in between uh commercial break there which we took today yep yep we didn't take a break yesterday because bill Burr still had some stuff to say. Exactly. About the lying, stupid Colts. Gotta love it. I watched that video back. Jeez Louise, he has some real... Now you know why. See, this is the only team we could hate for this long was the Colts

because they're the only team worth a shit. Because we respected the Steelers and the Colts were just these stupid... I think my name was on this particular team and they ended up going up there and all that type of stuff. But as I was reading while I was going to the bathroom in there, they said everybody has Russell Wilson going to Pittsburgh or New England. You guys are the only ones talking about him landing in Minnesota. Why am I doing that?

Why has that just become the thing in my head, you think, A.J. Hawk? I mean, it feels like it makes sense for Russ to be there. Now, I don't know exactly, does Russ have any kind of connections with anyone on staff in Minnesota? Has he worked with anybody before at one of his other shops? Well, Jesus Christ is in there. It's a guaranteed starting

job, I think, is the biggest thing with Russ to the Vikings. I think Russ wants to be guaranteed a starting job. Who would sign him to compete for a gig, though? Well, allegedly, the report was the Pittsburgh Steelers said he may be interested, but he would be competing with Kenny Pickett. Tone Diggs, though,

supports Kenny Pickett, I think. I do. Especially with the new offense. First-rounder, good guy, can have a drink with him. Yeah, everybody has. I think that is something that people do say about him, is that he's a good guy. But I guess a lot of people are pinning him in Pittsburgh.

You just said Justin Fields is coming to Pittsburgh there. Is that what your mind's at? I was trying to explain the coming home video. Because what country do you live and born in? United States of America. United States of America. United States of America. United States of America.

This country was forged and built on steel. And steel was built and forged in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. If so facto, everybody's home in America is Pittsburgh. Wow. You're right. That's why the NFL pitched the Rooney family on America's team first before it was pitched to the Dallas Cowboys because steel is everywhere.

Steel is here. And all the injuries that worked in the steel mills, they've all moved to all the other Steel Mills. So you guys are America's team. And the Rooney family said, we're Pittsburgh's team. We're not America's team. Jerry Jones said, that sounds good. I'll get the most profitable organization in all of sports.

I guess I'll take that tagline and run with that thing forever. But you are making stories in your head to, like, any quarterback that comes to Pittsburgh? Is that what you're doing? Yeah, if I put out feelers now or that I don't mind any quarterback or what happens, then when it comes time in the fall, I could say I was always on this quarterback side. Okay, so you have a clip somewhere. Yeah.

Saved in a chamber. You say, remember, it was March 6th, Wednesday, where Pac-Man was back. Yeah. chamber. You say, remember, it was March 6th, Wednesday, when Pac-Man was back. This was before he even released Stayin' On Business, which changed the trajectory of his entire rap career. I was saying, Dustin Fields of Pittsburgh. Yeah! Justin Fields in the story. Baker Mayfield

is in the story. Kirk Cousins is in the story. Russell Wilson is in the story. Caleb Williams is in the story. Jaden Daniels is in the story. Mac Jones now, maybe. Mac Jones potentially in the story for listening to 2.30 a.m. conversations that are taking place around Indianapolis bars during Combine. Who doesn't? Is in the story.

Michael Penix is in the story all of a sudden. J.J. McCarthy. How many spots are there? Not that many. So whenever you think about Russell Wilson, Baker Mayfield, I assume your thoughts on Baker are the way they are. He had a great year last year. He did.

Hey, Baker, way to go. Seemed to find himself to play his best football last year. I'm assuming he's very excited. Everybody's saying Tampa's trying to keep him. He's going to be a Buccaneer. New England Patriots with Matt Jones, seemingly potential quarterback situation. Pittsburgh Steelers, Kenny Pickett's coming back. He's the starter going in there, but people think quarterback situation.

Yes. Denver Broncos, everybody's thinking now, obviously, quarterback situation. Las Vegas Raiders, quarterback situation. Chicago Bears, obviously, with it, quarterback situation. It's like there's a lot of- Throw Jimmy G in there. What's that? Throw Jimmy G in there when you mention the Raiders. Yeah, okay, Jimmy G.

Yeah, he's out there, right? How many spots, somebody's gonna miss out. Russ to the Raiders. Somebody's definitely gonna miss out. You talk about Justin Fields, right? How many spots, you know, somebody's going to miss out. Russ to the right. Somebody's definitely going to miss out. You talk about Justin Fields, you go back and say, what do Chicago want for Justin Fields? No one is giving Chicago a one for Justin Fields. So you think about it, all right, so what's fair, I guess, a two?

Originally, but they're saying it's less than that now. Yeah, because the market, because Russell Wilson. So now Justin Fields. It's like a four. He's being compared to the rest of the market that's less than that now. Yeah, because the market, because Russell Wilson. So now Justin Fields, he's being compared to the rest of the market that's out there right now, plus the rookies in there. So Justin Fields being compared to two different complete markets. AJ, what'd you say there, dude? What about Russ to the Raiders? Why haven't we mentioned that at all? I think the reason why, and I mentioned this yesterday to Lambeau,

the Raiders feel like they're trying to get back to the Raider way. For some reason, I don't know if Russ is a talent. If you go in there and win, who cares, I guess. He's affordable, yeah. He's affordable, and you could count on him at least for two years, don't you think? And he'll show up. He'll show up every single day.

He'll be a good leader. They were one of the original teams when he left Seattle that he put on his list. And I know it's not the Sierra connection. Residency. Yeah, like a Vegas residency. I think that was initially pitched. It's like, okay, well, she would be on board with moving their family there and everything. What are some of Sierra's songs?

What are some of Sierra's songs? I'd know them if I heard them. I couldn't name them. Let me see you one, two step. There it is. He's got some hip. Yeah. I don't know.

They're smoking cigars in Vegas. I don't know if he fit that one. Smoking big cigars. That's what I'm saying. I don't know. Raider way, I don't think Russell Wilson immediately. Personally. It could be Revenge Russ.

What if he just does a 180 and he just says, you know what? Heal Russ. I'm going to be the baddest motherfucker in this entire league. What if he just does a 180 and he just says, you know what? Heal Russ. I'm going to be the baddest motherfucker in this entire league. What if he does come walk? What if there's a full on? Yeah. Yeah, pissed. He's wearing cutoffs now.

Team 3 social media assistant manager puts a video out of him walking next to his Bentley Rolls Royce. Hollywood Hogan painted on beard. Sunglasses. Think of a PowerPoint on Roman Reigns and the bloodline. Like, hey, this is what we're thinking for your next season. Revenge, Russ. Yes.

Just like how The Rock had a 21-minute promo where he said, fudge your story to Cody Rhodes. Russell Wilson walks out of that house, does his thing, and goes up to the camera and goes, Fudge Sean Payton. Yeah. Oh, my God. Connor kind of suggested that Team 3 is pitching Russ on pitch decks where his next location should be

and what the storyline and his character should be at that location. Agreed. He's a movie character. Revenge Russ is not a bad chapter. And he can still go to Minnesota. What if he comes out with an act? What if he's featured? Pac, would you put him on?

Yeah, please. Yeah, come on. Pac, put Russ on. Remix on SOB. Come on. Let him stand on business. Standing on like a wax figure of Sean Payton. Russell Wilson.

No, what Russ would do is it would actually be the words business spelled out. Like 15 feet tall. Yeah, boom. And he would just be walking across the clock. Massive letter. Standing and walking on business. You know, as he's doing it. He's standing on business.

What are you getting paid now to play right now? $39 million. Woo! He can dance too. S-O-B. Hey, he did a – that's an incredible – Unbelievable. Before even touching the field over there,

signs a five-year extension that he won't even make it to with his original contract ending before he was let go from the team. He now can literally go anywhere and play for $1.2 million. And there's going to be a lot of teams. And, you know, you walk around and you talk about stuff. And we at the Combine – and we on here just say the salary cap's fake. It is. And there's a lot of people that have gone on board with that.

And we were just a tiny little internet show whenever we were yelling that from the top of our minds. About salary cap gymnastics that can take place. If your team wants a player, they can figure out how to leverage the future into keeping the player. And then they can kick the can down the road. They say, kick the can down the road. You're going to have to get that can sometime. But then as soon as you get there, guess what you can do again? You can just kick that son of a bitch again.

And then all of a sudden, you're just working up a strength in your leg, and you're kicking that same can 10 to 15 times down the road. Inevitably, you're going to have to get there. But as the salary cap continues to grow by $30 million from one year to the next, it's like the contracts that you sign for the future or the can that you kick in the future can fit in a lot easier whenever you decide to move on. Like the $85 million that the Denver Broncos are choosing not to have access to

so they can move on from Russell Wilson. That's a massive number. Obviously, 35- 6 and 49 4 35 4 49 6 whatever the math is there for the six and a four becoming the whole to make this thing the 85 million dollars whatever it is it's like that's a wild move but i assume in sean payton's eyes he thinks maybe the salary cap is going to jump again so like that that next 49 6 million it's like obviously a lot but still a lot of money to build a team with which even more so makes me think kicking a can down the road right now is the best time to do it yeah like right now is the best time to do it you're not

there when it when it time when it comes time to what do they say to to cash in or you it comes due you might not even be there there's a great great chance if you're the GM, you're probably you might not be there. So let's try to win right now and then we'll figure it out at the end because with this salary cap continuing to go up and up and they know it's going to, it will continue to go up. You can just magically find a way to fit all these guys in.

Can we get this thing on the big one here? Yeah, the backboard. Look at these numbers. Okay, 1994 the salary cap was $34,608,000. Hey, thanks for all the hard work back there, boys. Good work. Good work. Way to put on a program and throw your heads around and destroy people to get the game

all the way to 2020, where it was $198 million, which seems big. 2020, $182 million. Remember something happened. Yeah. Uh-huh. We don't know what. A thing happened. We're learning a lot about it now.

More so than we had back then. In the moment, it existed. There was a tallying of audience members as cardboard cutouts. This weekend at the Super Bowl, there will be 5,000 humans

scattered safely distanced apart and there will be 45,000 cardboard cutouts. Cardboard cutouts will be there. That was being promoted at one point in 2020. So they dropped down. Wow, that's a chance. First time they dropped down in the league's history. They must be dead. They must be

screwed. Fast forward to 2023. 224 million. Holy shit! Compared to 1994. And then you go to this year.224 million. Holy shit compared to 1994. And then you go to this year, $255 million. That's the biggest jump that has ever made from one year to the next. And with more streaming services, more sports gambling, more ratings, more eyes, more money. That thing's only going to continue to go.

So when you kick that can down the road, that can might be this size whenever you kick it. But by the time we get there, that can might be this size in the salary cap. So if you want somebody, you can have them. In the salary cap, gymnastics have been happening. The Rams had to pay the Piper a little bit. The Saints have had to pay the Piper a couple of different times, even though they've remained a solid football team. But it's like with a lot of these conversations with the people that are actually in charge and feel like they, you know, are obligated to have good books and not just kick the can down the road because that is, you know, avoiding accountability and everything like that. It's like $1.2 million Russell Wilson, even $5 million Russell Wilson,

is like a very, very, very good number for teams to be very interested in Russell Wilson. What a baby-faced turn. Him making $40 million still. He's still going to make $39 million. No matter what. He's still getting that money. He's still for the revenge, Russ.

Team three, social media team. With a bag. Arm strength team. Quad team. I think he has two feet, doctor. Sh media team. With a bag. Arm strength team. Yep. Quad team. Right. I think he has two feet, doctor. Shoe team. Hardio team. Stationary bike guy. Yes. Builds the bike. Of course. Builds the bike.

And gas mask guy that wears the VO2 max. And then travel with pads to Monaco guy. That's a very important member of the team. Very. Very important. Helmet is separate. So he'll still be making $39 million, which is awesome. Earned it. Congratulations on the deal.

But how anybody's going to view him in his eyes, he's a $3 million quarterback right now. He has like a full baby face turn happening while getting broken off. Congrats to Russ. It sucks that this has happened for him, but congrats to him being bell of the ball probably pretty soon. I mean, look at the teams we're talking about too, like Minnesota.

That might be one of, if not the best wide receiver tight end, wide receiver combo when it comes to Addison, Jefferson and Hawkinson. And then you go to the Raiders, it's like, oh, who do they have? Devontae Adams, Jacoby Myers, they just paid. All these situations, and even Atlanta. Like Bijon, Kyle Pitts

and Drake London, and you might say Kyle Pitts isn't good. Kyle Pitts hasn't played with anybody. Yeah, let's see. Let's give him a chance with one guy like a Kirk Cousins who is coming off before he got here. Or Russ. Or Russ, yeah, or Fields. There are plenty of guys it feels like, or teams rather,

that these guys would fit in. When you said some of these quarterbacks are going to miss out, do you think absolutely that some will miss out on starters? Do you think because there were 70 different starting quarterbacks last year because of the year of the backup quarterback that teams might actually say, yeah, sure, we can get one guy, but we should still think about possibly bringing in another? How do we feel the NFL owners are going to handle that? How many backups were there?

I believe going into week 15, it was in the 60s with the amount of quarterbacks that had started. What can they do? They're going to have power points. No hip drop tackles, probably? That was tough to describe. No way. Get it out of the game.

Isn't there like, there should be malicious intent hit or tackle, you know? The hip drop tackle thing, whenever people say it, it just makes you sound like, okay, and I guess in rugby they have the hip drop tackle to something. Rugby and football are a little bit different. I think it's just because of the leverage and how it's in. Yeah, but they're trying to teach you how to rugby tackle.

No, that's how they're keeping people's heads out of it. At a young age, they're teaching people to rugby tackle. Yeah, and rugby tough. Listen, rugby, very tough sport. Rugby players are very tough. We got nothing but respect for rugby. But it's a different collision. And the reason why is.

Because you don't have a helmet. Yes, because you have. You got a helmet, you're going to use it. Yes. It's a weapon. Guys. Guys, we can't be saying that. Inside voice. Gentlemen. Gentlemen. Keep it inside Guys. Guys, we can't be saying that. Inside voice.

Gentlemen. Keep it inside voice. No, there's no inside voice. Like, there's going to be glancing blows. There's going to be head and hands. Like, it's going to happen. And he who is most comfortable with helmet, normally one who is going to utilize helmet a little bit more.

I'd say. Like, AJ, you know, at a young age, they put him in a bowling ring. Yeah, he knew. Exactly in the ring. Yeah. He knew. Exactly. In Ohio. Yep. And at first, he was, like, getting beat up.

Second grade, going against high scorers and bowling the ring. Boom, bang, boom. He's getting beat up. Then he went home that night, and Pistol said, you look like a little bitch out there. So he went to his room, helmet on, and just started banging it into stuff. Bang, boom, bang, boom, bang.

Showed his piranhas. Bingo. And then when he was in third grade, they put him back in that ring. That's Kirk Herbstreet how that went. That's Kirk Herbstreet how that went. Ain't that right, AJ? We're throwing that thing around. That's what we told you. That was in high school.

I am not a fan of having little kids Ain't that right, A.J.? We're throwing that thing around. That's what we told you. That was in high school. Well, I don't think. I am not a fan of having little kids waste head contact in practice. I don't think little kids should be banging all day long. You mentioned it earlier. There's some of those clips. Yeah, there's some of those clips. Some of those clips on there of these coaches that I saw. It's hard to get past that one.

That one just came. I don't know how it happened. Some of these coaches. The Pat McAfee show to get past that one. I don't know how it happened. Some of these coaches are criminals. The drills they're doing are criminal. Oh, no! Yeah, that's a weird situation.

Yeah, the internet's a library now. They're saying this is going to be a crazy year. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. The Farmer's Almanac? What I haven't read is it's going to be a crazy year. Oh, okay. I'm just saying. I'm telling you what I have been reading. It's going to be a crazy year. All right.

The internet is awesome. Greatest place of all time. Also, same exact time, worst place of all time. Speaking of the internet, Buffalo Bill's social media account. I found a video I think that is maybe calmed our... Fearsars Worries A little bit Definitely

Because we as a show that love Bill's Mafia Oh yeah Well Mute his mic Thank you He's a patriot We as a show that love Bill's Mafia Without that

This Keep Ty's mic on Turn it off Yeah turn it You can mute mine Thank you Look at that I love Bills Mafia. Not that. Keep Todd's mic on. Turn it off. You can mute mine. Thank you. Look at that. Not a big deal.

Can't hear you. Can't hear you. A little bit of snow. You can... Oh! As a human who is a massive fan of Bills Mafia and their commitment and what they have to go through to showcase their commitment to their team. And the fact that they're getting a new stadium and they were told some things about, hey, all of your hard work being a Buffalo Bills fan.

All the blizzards that you sat through. All the tables that you went through. All the ketchup and mustard that's just been bukkake'd all over your faces watching these games it's going to pay off and we're appreciative we're getting you a brand new home that's right and whenever they laid out this brand new home like it was hgtv as if you were seeing a before and after potentially about a home in 3d they had this beautiful stadium now it wasn't in a dome no which a lot of people said, maybe, you know, because the way the weather is. But the people of Buffalo said, this is Buffalo Bills football. We need snow to be here.

We want snow to be here. That is the city of Buffalo. We got that lake effect. We are northern in the altitude of the United States. Latitude. Yep. Yep. Latitude, fatitude. Yeah the United States. Latitude. Yep. Latitude, fatitude. Yeah, right here.

The belt. As long as there's not too much snow. But then, you know, there's too much snow. People can't sit down and watch the game. They start throwing it in there, and then everything happens. Nonetheless, you've got a brand-new stadium. Here's a 3-D rendering of it. And these Buffalo Bills fans are jacked up.

You know what they were shown? What was that? Big ass bison. As they should be. Big ass bison. Massive. This 3D rendering had these bison maybe the size of the stadium itself. We got four stadium sized things. What is it?

One stadium, three bison that are roaming out in the front. It's the logo of the Buffalo Bills. A lot of people think it's a buffalo. Buffalo is a water buffalo. It actually looks kind of weird. The buffalo that we all think is a buffalo is actually a bison, which is a much worse

name than a buffalo. The bison should have been what the water buffalo was named, and the buffalo should have been what the bison was named. But the buffalo should have been what the bison was named. But nonetheless, the bison that were on display, massive, massive bison. Yeah, perfect. Huge, beautiful, powerful. This is Buffalo.

That's right. This is America. This is our team. Then from that point to the next rendering. Yeah. Who shrunk the kids? I mean, by about 75%. Yeah, exactly. Baby bison.

Downsizing. What are we doing? They put these bison in a little baby box and made them weak-ass bison. That's right. Buffalo Bills heard us. Be worried about this. Here's the video that was released. There's been a lot of talk about the bison out front. We're spending a lot of time

on scale, size, and what they look like. It'll give fans kind of an idea of how big we think they should be which I know there's a ton of debate about. Well, they're scaled right now as 16 feet tall. We like the size of it. We think it would work for a variety of reasons. One of the first things that I downloaded

was the world's largest buffalo. We all agree that I downloaded was the world's largest buffalo. We all agreed that it's cool because it's big, but there's no emotion there. There's no detail. It's just big. If you were to create a bison that is 40 feet tall, you're kind of then taking all of the rest of what we're doing out of proportion. We're not trying to say this is it.

What we're saying is for scale, this helps tell that story. It's showing scale and showing movement and detail. What it will help show is that this is built for buffalo. Great detail. Great detail. Like this is a cool factor. Who carved the dong? That what's come across. That guy. Dig into this. Is that a tail or two dongs? Okay, so 16 feet is big.

It's not bad, yeah. 16 feet is big. It'll play. He used the wide. You can pick the width of the painting when you're drawing on a screen. He picked the fat one. If this thing was to go 40 feet tall, look at how much we'd be barking off here. That's a valid point.

If I'm standing right on the other side of a bison, I don't want to be able to see the stadium. I want to see a big-ass bison. I agree. 16 feet is big, though. 16 feet feels big. Make one 40-footer then. Have the dad there a 40-footer, the mom a 40-footer, and then a 16-footer. And maybe make it super thin and fragile and be like,

this is what could happen to a bison. And have it lined up like this with the stadium behind it. So it's maybe like 2D. Can we climb climb it can you pay money to climb on top the the one that hasn't eaten well yeah no i can pay 20 bucks would you climb one in the wild yeah well am i ranching with the montana state rodeo team i still don't think you should anyone's going to be able to get up on a 16 football until you get three of your buddies on top of your shoulder. I get it.

Listen, pal. Take your artist brain out of here. There's no emotion. I don't want to hear that bullshit. Make this thing as big as possible. We need a 40-foot bison. 16 is not big enough. I thought 16 was big. That's a basketball hoop and a half. That's-foot bison. 16 is not big enough. I thought 16 was big.

That's a basketball hoop and a half. That's a big bison. The eyes should be electronic and light up red. Can you imagine opposing teams walking in there and seeing a 40-foot bison? 40. You already won the game. You already win. Yeah, so it's probably what?

The top of the brick? No, that's too tall. It should be the top of the brick. A little bit above the backboard. So where the chains are maybe? Where the chains hang from? It should be as tall as the top of the Thunderdome. Yes, agreed.

That's how big it should be. I think it should be to the top of the brick, which is probably 24. Yeah. Or 20. It needs to be higher than 16. 16 is an intimidating number. Double it. You need to be able to walk underneath it completely without ducking.

Exactly. Boom. There you go. Yeah, but I feel like these people say if they were to give – nobody touches the dong. The dong is going to be seven feet tall. Oh, boy. I'm nervous.

Bill's mom is going to do something with that dong. You know that in your heart. Yeah, Roy Hibbert said that he put Icy Heart on his ankles and was worried that it was going to hit his – Exactly, had an issue. Feels like this bison is potentially going to have a similar issue. Oh, yeah, people standing behind it with the ketchup and mustard squirters and just going crazy with those things.

So many tables are getting – you think they're running off the head of that? To put that picture back up? In the video, it looked like there was chains. Oh, my God, think of Ricochet, you know, running off the top of the humpback to the head. He's doing shooting star, probably. How are they going to keep people off of that? They're going to have to build a barricade around it. That's why you've got to make it bigger.

People are going to climb. In the rendering, it was a chained-off area, it looked like. That'll work. Yeah, for sure, in Buffalo. Well, if they— Listen, if I was a Buffalo Bill fan, I would respect those Bison like I never respected anything in my life. But what if you wasn't? Well, yeah, opposing fans, you might have an issue.

But if an opposing fan touches a Bison, you're going to make it out of butter. I don't want to say kill them, but. So that was obviously massive news out of Bill's Mafia. 16 feet feels big to me when I went over there and looked. I mean, I did see Bills Mafia was worried though. Are they still going to have to bring shovels to shovel for the team or are they going to provide them this year?

People got in the game and watched it. Didn't they? Yes, they did. After they pushed the game back. Only because that Steelers fan cleared all the snow for them. Yeah, walking through in his Woodson jersey. I believe the Packers sent them a video from 1942 when they had shoots that just sent all the snow for him. Yeah, walking through in his Woodson jersey. I believe the Packers sent them a video from 1942 when they had shoots

that just sent all the snow down to the field. I think they're going to install that. Well, they tried to do that, but then that one kid jumped in and he broke it. He broke that one. Once again, we love Bill's Mafia. And if Bill's Mafia likes a 16... This kid, yeah.

We're supposed to tailgate for the snow clearing removal? I don't know what you told me. What a time. We're covering. That was not that long ago. No, it wasn't. We love Buffalo. Hey, let's go, Buffalo.

Here we go. We love Buffalo. Let's go, Buffalo. Emotion on that bison. They need to make it taller. What does it mean? He didn't see any emotion on the statue? Well, it's stoic.

A bison is stoic, obviously, because it's just outrunning its prior. Well, if you want some emotion, then put a goofy-ass facial expression on it. Boom. They should be big enough that their eyes can be fire pits and just real fires in their eyes. People can secure seats there to watch the game. Now we're talking. Now we've got some good ideas. From the eyes of the bison overlooking the game. Now we're talking. Now we've got some good ideas. From the eyes of the Bison

overlooking the stadium. It feels like you guys if they would have said it was 24 feet would have said we needed 48 feet. See, 24 is a great number. I'd be okay with 24. It is a very good number. 24 is good.

16 just doesn't do it for me. It's not like Quinceañera. 16 is big. But it's not big enough. I can get on somebody's shoulders and jump on the top of that thing. You don't want that to happen. What happens if someone gets on top of it and dies? Then what?

Then they're going to say. So you guys are taking this angle that it needs to be bigger because you're better people than everybody else. We're better people than that guy. Yeah. We're trying to save the people of Buffalo. You're looking out for Bill's Mafia. Exactly. We all know what Bill's Mafia entails. We know that they're. They're the people of Buffalo. You're looking out for Bill's Mafia. Yeah, we all know what Bill's Mafia entails.

We know that they're... They're jumping off of things. Yes, they're a rowdy bunch. And 16 feet is scalable. And those people are going to scale that son of a bitch. And someone's going to take a little jump off it like a ricochet shooting star. Someone might see him on Monday Night Raw, do that at some point, and say, I could do that off of Billy.

Yeah, Billy the Buffalo. I'm going to hop on that thing and go do that. some point and say, I could do that off of Billy the Buffalo. I'm going to hop on that thing and go do that. Shane O'Mac. That's not high enough for Shane O'Mac. That's not high enough for Shane O'Mac. What a psycho. Lunatic. How tall is that?

It's only 16. Add 40 feet to it. We need to get that thing to six stories. If I'm going to jump off that. You like the Bills? Or no, you think that's 16 feet? I don't think it's higher. Final word. It should be higher.

16 feet, we can probably get up there with three of us. Boom. So that's your guys' take. It's 16 feet. They're going to have people on top of that thing, and people are going to be falling off. It needs to be a showstopper. It needs to be a four-year commemorative. Damn, that's huge. No, 16 feet, they're going to have people on top of that thing, and people are going to be falling off. It needs to be a showstopper. It needs to be like, damn, that's huge.

No, 16 feet is gigantic. I mean. No, that's just another statue. I mean, think of like Peyton's statue is probably 15 feet tall. 12. I bet that's 12. Yeah, it's really high up. So think about a bison that's not nearly big enough.

You should put a foam pit around it. Or a boat. Peyton's a person. Yeah, a ball pit would be great. Peyton's a person. Clean's a person This is a buffalo No one's climbing Payton to stand on top of his head People are going to climb the bison Because there's room to hang out up there

What if Colt's hat Climb up, sit on Payton's shoulders Piggyback We had a buffalo in front of our old studio And people would always climb that. Obviously, it was only like four feet up or whatever. Yeah, that was ground level.

Yeah, people would jump on that left and right. Yeah, and homeless people love getting up on top of that. How big is that bull in Chicago or New York? Those things are the same size as the one next to the old office, I believe. Anyways, I like the size, but until we see it in person, I don't think we can fully judge. Maybe bigger. I'm always on the fan of let's do it bigger.

You said 24. I think that's a very reasonable height. Yeah. 16 bottom of chest. Sure. 24 top of chest. That's what you're saying, AJ? That'd be perfect.

Yes. You need to be able to walk fully underneath it without ducking, like a normal six-foot duck. Well, what about? The meat? Well, yeah, the meat should go-foot duck. Well, what about? The meat? Well, yeah, the meat should go over. You shouldn't be able to touch the meat because you know people will take advantage. Meat should be above your shoulder but not head.

Yeah, exactly. You should be able to walk by. People get black eyes because they don't see and they walk. The tip of it just nicks them right in the eyeball. Hey, what happened to Stan? Well, no Bison's meat. Well, no, the meat should be the play like a champion today at Notre Dame. Smacking it.

Everyone needs to walk through it. You're right. Hey, touch OJ's meat today. Bang. Because they're naming it after Bill's legends, right? I'm looking at the Peyton statue. Peyton statue looks like it's 16 feet. That is not big enough if it's 16.

Exactly. Look how tall those things are. I'm hopping. He's fit. like it's 16 feet. That is not big enough if it's 16. Exactly. Look how tall those things are. I'm hopping. He's fit. Look how fit he is. That one you can't tell from that angle. Yeah, but you've got a guy's head down here. The vein work in his forearm.

Yeah, he's jacked in there, obviously. Nice. Gave it a little okay there. Yeah, you make me look good, obviously. Next year, we're going to have to climb on Peyton's. How tall is that? Look, that's got to be 15 feet. That's 16, 15 feet?

Because it's too right. It's like 12 feet Look, that's got to be 15 feet. That's 16, 15 feet? Because it's two, right? It's like 12 feet there, right? That's not exactly right. Ray's got the wrong... How tall is the guy reenacting it? I'm saying 5'10". I'm guessing 5'10". Yeah, 5'10".

So, yeah, that's 15 footer. You think that's three? That's like two of them, right? That's 12 feet, maybe. All right, anyways, good luck. We can't wait to see these big-ass bison that you guys are going to have in there. Yeah. Johnny and Ice looks good outside, haven't they?

Yes, he does. Make it bigger. Don Shula. That's a nice one. Look how tall that is. That's 15 feet at least. No way. What are we talking about?

Maybe they'll build it up like that. Oh, smart. And then it'll be 16 feet up. Put it up on a stage. No, no, no. It needs to be six. The bison needs to be six feet. Put each leg on a pillar.

Yeah, like... Like 10 feet in the air. Because you can add... You can steal four feet on a statue. So now we're at 20 feet. Yep. Now we're dancing, right? Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, but bison don't... They're not stage animals. Well, you put like a mountain right? Yeah, but bison don't. They're not stage animals. Well, you put like a mount, a hill. You make it look like it's one of the rolling fields that is running alongside. That's how tall the Statue of Liberty is. That thing's a statement piece. That's what we need. I was from the front.

I don't disagree. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in the middle of a time called the offseason, which we love. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in the middle of a time called the offseason, which we love. We get a chance to follow along with the sports that we enjoy more than any other people on earth. The NHL is currently in the middle of one of its greatest seasons of all time. Connor McDavid is the real deal. This guy's electrifying. Plays for a team in Canada that's left on the map,

so you'll never watch him. But if you get an opportunity to, you should. Pittsburgh Penguins are on a rebound time right now. Bots going to run and win every single game so we can make the playoffs. The Vegas Golden Knights got Jackie Aces back. I guess the Florida Panthers are... They're cooking. Number one team in the league right now. I guess the Florida Panthers are. They're cooking. Yeah, they're doing good. Number one team in the league right now.

Better than the sorry-ass Boston Bruins. Yep. Who are in the conversation at number one and not the bottom like the Pittsburgh Penguins. Watch your mouth. The Detroit Red Wings aren't even fielding a team. No, no, no. Hockey Town's back. We're going to be in the playoffs this year.

Well, you're definitely better than the stupid low-life Dallas Stars. Texas Hockey's buzzing. We just added your boy Tanev, too. Really? Oh, yeah. Legend. How are the Blackhawks? Conor Bedard still playing? Yeah, he's doing really good. The rest of the team, not as good. Worst team in hockey. It's like a Wemby type situation. Anyways, the NHL is phenomenal.

The NBA, we just talked to Perk. Great. Love it. Great right now. They're in a good time right now. Hot. Especially in that Western Conference, there's like eight teams that are currently win or go home situation. That's good for competitive levels as we watch on TV, on TNT, and on ESPN.

There are also other sports that are happening. Ladies and gentlemen, time for a segment called Sports That Are Happening! AJ, these are sports around the world that are currently taking place that we need to pay attention to. Ladies and gentlemen, guess what's back?

What's that? Lacrosse! Lacrosse! Lacrosse is back! We're doing some cradling in the national champion. Notre Dame fighting Irish Cavanaugh boys are back making highlights all over the field. Hell yeah. That was Patty Cavanaugh on no look over the shoulder.

How you doing? Bounce off leg. Through the leg. That's a goal against Maryland. Five all. Sorry about it. Now, I will say the Notre Dame team is looking very sharp to go back to back with national champions. But there's some other teams that are playing pretty good, Conman.

Yeah, some very good teams. Right now, Denver at the top. They won a national championship in the last five years. Actually, our boys, I think that we all support no matter what. The Troops, West Point is sitting at number two. I'm rooting for them. Of course, always have to. Hopkins and then ND at four. I believe the top three last week all lost.

Now there's been some shakeup. That's why Notre Dame is now in that four spot. But they do have a guy, Jordan Faison, ND football football player apparently going to the draft no matter what going forward. He was a true freshman, played last year. Now he's playing lacrosse for the Notre Dame boys. Huge addition. He is an absolute stud. They're going to be just fine.

And how the hell do I watch? These are on TV? Yeah, ESPN Plus actually has, I believe, like 300 of the college lacrosse games this spring. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of college lacrosse. I know. They play that many. Yeah, they play a lot of games.

Every day there's a game? On ESPN Plus, yes. Okay, so shout out to lacrosse being back. AJ, I know you love the sport. When we were growing up, not nearly as accessible in the places that we grew up, but nowadays that we've learned, boy, it's good to see them. You know what I mean? It's good to see them.

Lacrosse is awesome, man. Lacrosse, you have to, like, it's physical. You're running a whole lot, and you have to work in space. Like, you're constantly trying to juke guys, make a miss, and on defense, you got to bend your knees, shuffle, figure it out. Like, there's a lot of good carryover to football, I believe, and other sports. Pac-Man, you love lacrosse. You got into it last year.

You went to one of their games. I got into it last year, bro. It's way more physical than you think it is. I got a lot of respect for the lacrosse guys. Shout out to lacrosse being back. You know what else is back? And we only acknowledge it like once a year. Women's college softball. Remember whenever a tournament happens, we think to ourselves,

holy hell, this is electrifying. The ball is flying around. There's bing, boom, boom. Celebrations. Ah, chance. Yelling. Teamwork. Well, it's back. And history has been ruined. Oklahoma had a 71-game win streak. They lose to Louisiana, who was 9-11 going into this game. Wow.

Crazy Cajuns. What an upset. And this Louisiana team, they show sneaky good. Man, they make some noise. Sneaky good. They're below.500, just beat the best team in women's softball history. Look for them to maybe make a run. Also, to Oklahoma,

let's not talk about it ending. Let's talk about it happening. Congrats on Hellboy. Get that out of the way. Women's college softball is taking place. It's always fun to watch. Where do I watch that at? That is also, I believe, an ESPN Plus product.

You know what else is back that is not an ESPN product? What? The greatest league in the world. Of course. When it comes to one particular sport, the MLS is back. I don't know if you've heard this, Messi's back on a soccer field. Now, not as

much buzz as last year when Messi came to town, but he's still destroying MLS teams who are the best in the world. Messi fresh off a Ballon d'Or award, a World Cup champion, a goat in a lot of people's conversations and eyes, still in his prime playing in America alongside that man right there, Luis Suarez, who has been a human in the past, super competitive,

absolute dog. This inter-Miami team should win it all. And they said, we're not playing the little Fugues tournament that they played last year for free. They're trying to win the MLS Cup. They stunk at the beginning, but now they're hot, gumpy. Tell us about the best MLS stuff. They won their first game 2-0. Nothing didn't look that great. They went Wednesday,

had to go to LA, play Sunday, score late, tie it, have a week off after their world tour, beat the shit out of Orlando 5-0, play Montreal this weekend. They are buzzing. Yeah, there's people saying that they stunk, though, right? It feels like people kind of want Messi and Inter Miami to fail for some reason. I don't understand it because they've done so much for the league. Well, I know those scumbags in Cincinnati.

Yeah, I see Cincinnati couldn't even win when Pac-Man pulled the sword out. Oh! You pulled the sword, they lost? No, we did not lose. We did not lose. I remember FC Cincinnati booing Messi out of the stadium. I don't love that.

You know what else is happening right now? NASCAR! Hell yeah, NASCAR? NASCAR. Yeah. Hell yeah, NASCAR. NASCAR. Left, left, left, left. Straight, straight, straight, straight. Left, left, left, left.

Straight. Three stages. Hard to pay attention to. But once you see the third stage is happening, now we've got some real racing. They were just in Las Vegas this past weekend. Congrats, Kyle Larson. Former virtual racer. He won this one. He's winning

every one. He wins a lot of them. He's winning every one of them, AJ. That's why we're still talking about him after everything that happened. Coming up, the Sunday Shriners Children's 500 at the Phoenix Raceway. You know those cars run hot out in the desert. Big time.

That's happening. You know what else is happening? What? Pro bull riding. Oh, yeah. Just came through Indianapolis. Congrats to Dalton Castle. This guy, big winner.

Go, Dalton. Dalton took home the prize here at an eight-second ride in lovely Indianapolis Gainbridge Arena. And I'll tell you, these PBR bulls, I got mass respect for them. And they're trying to find the next one that will ride the bull. And I believe it's John Krimber, who's an 18-year-old out of Decatur, Texas. He's won a lot. He's number three in the world. He's been doing bull riding since he was six.

I love. They need to stop looking for the next rider. They got him in Krimber. I want to see the next bull. Look at this bull. PBR, get this bull on the tour. I don't know where this barn is. I don't know the next bull. Look at this bull PBR get this bull on the door I don't know where this barn is. I don't know what's happening But I need to see crimper and Dalton Castle battling against this big bad son of a bitch

We're nowhere near ending. Look at this. Holy We continue on YouTube and ESPN+. We'll see you tomorrow on ESPN. Have a good one. Goodbye. We need that bull in the PBR. Are you kidding me? He's giving meth?

What are we doing? That guy's face hit back twice, which is not good. This bull, by the way, is not just a freak athlete. Great IQ. Got eyes on the bull. You thought I was done? Huh? Huh? Huh? You thought I was done? Huh?

Oh, I saved your life just because I wanted to. Landed right in front of him and then ends up taking a right turn away from him. That bull is who I want to see in the PBR and I'd like to see Dalton Castle and John Krimber, the human representatives go ahead and tame that bull that's got a 75-inch vertical of pissed-off-tivity. Now, listen, I respect these young bucks, but neither one of those kids has the stones to get on that bull because—

John Krimber, get on that bull! No, yeah, if he gets his helmet on, he will. That ain't my fucking PBR, all right? I'll just say it. That guy right there, you notice what he didn't have on? He didn't have a helmet. Now granted, that bull stepped on his head, maybe killed him. He might have permanent brain damage. That's part of why

we watch PBR. Take the damn helmets off. Take them off. I'm okay with the helmets if everybody's doing it, which I think is the case. This guy's not. That's a PBR! That guy's a new boom. I thought your cowboy hat has a little bit of padding in it now with PBR. Yeah, it fell off.

I think, I don't know what era. I don't know what era they stopped just being cowboy hat bull riders. I'm assuming it was around the same time we developed studies about CTE and stuff. But most of the PBR wears helmets now, right? Yeah. All their. Not the ones I want to watch. Probably half.

John Krimber is wearing a helmet. He's 18 years old. He's the next one. We need to keep him around his brain good for a long time. It is. Thank you. It says a lot about America. You're talking about the Cowboys?

Our bull riders are wearing helmets now, not my America. Our boys want to live, Tony. We need our boys to have helmets on. We need John Krimber to be riding bulls for the next 10 to 15 years. Bingo. That's the best bull in America right there. And they grabbed some drunk doofus out of the crowd and said, hey, you want to become a star today?

And did he go eight seconds? He did not. John Krimber ain't going eight seconds on that thing. John Krimber saddling that fucking bull. I'd like to see it. PBR's happening. Friday in Banger, Maine. You can watch the next PBR.

Great place for PBR. That bowl is actually shocking. You said not to watch until before since I hadn't seen it yet. That was one of the most impressive feats of athleticism I've ever seen. You think he's done? He's not. He's jumping higher in the next one. Do they get him on meth?

What happened? I don't know how the bulls are treated. Obviously, we try not to look into the animal treatment of the sports, like horse racing and other things like that. But I don't know if the bull is necessarily the most happy when it's jumping the highest. But this particular bull has got to be the biggest buckler in the history of bucking bulls.

So they just tied his balls real tight. Well, to Ty's point, I'm sure this drunk asshole said something like sticking his fingers up his butt beforehand. Dumb idiot. Squeezing his nuts. I hope not. I don't so i mean he might have been boozed up this one is the one like yeah this is crazy it does a full turn geez almost flipped himself and then you're talking about the balls i mean they were just flapping there and you're talking about a book like there oh my god right kick that guy in the face like oh it almost and then said i could

kill you if i wanted and chooses not to right there chooses not to that's what this bull has the ability to do let alone that tail imagine getting hit by that it would hurt so bad anyways pbr is happening friday in uh bangor maine speaking of animals doing stuff you know what's going on in alaska in alaska the idea oh love love it. The annual Iditarod race is taking place in Alaska about an hour north of Anchorage. Yeah, I believe so. That's where they start, about 80 miles north. And this is where they're dog sledding, and the dogs are the stars of the show here. Correct.

The dogs are the ones that are gritting it out. Now, obviously, the racers have to be able to have a relationship with the dogs, motivate the dogs, guide the dogs, keep the dogs on track whenever they're not racing. Got to refresh the dogs,

got to rub the dogs, keep the dogs healthy. Not easy. This isn't a dog walker, people are saying. No, it's a thousand mile race. This is a real talent. And these are some

tough conditions that man's best friend get to showcase how big of dogs they are. I do believe some dogs end up passing. conditions that man's best friend get to showcase how big of dogs they are. I do believe some dogs end up passing. Yeah, unfortunately. Tough conditions.

We don't like that at all. But this particular Iditarod, a little bit different. It's not just about the dogs and the dog sledder. This one's about a fucking moose getting involved. What? Yep. Breaking news out of the Iditarod from the Robinson Racing Kennel. Wally likes to plan ahead, but the Iditarod is all about overcoming unexpected hurdles. Last night, in the dark, on a trail with a lot of hills, great riding, curving through the trees,

Wally and the dogs ran over a moose! It was at the bottom of a hill and they bounced right over it. Earlier, Jesse had punched it in the nose when it was kicking at his dogs. Dallas came along next and the moose attacked. Dallas did the only thing he could do. Shot the moose in the fucking face to defend himself and his dogs. He said it dropped on his sled so it wasn't a long shot. The rules say the animal must be cared for,

so Dallas had the very unenviable task of field dressing a moose in the middle of his run. A reminder of how wild and remote the country they are traveling is and how quickly a musher has to respond to danger. That was a real moose. Oh, yeah. Even having to deal with all of this, Dallas is still in first place, and Dallas has won the Iditarod numerous times in the past. Dog.

Dallas and his dogs, absolute dogs, even having to deal with a fucking moose in the Iditarod numerous times in the past. Dog. Dallas and his dogs, absolute dogs, even having to deal with a fucking moose in the Iditarod. Shout out to the Iditarod happening. Shout out. You can follow along at? Iditarod.com. Iditarod.com. I do believe the person after Dallas also ran over the carcass of said moose

and it caused some damage to his slug. Yeah, and probably legitimized the story. Yeah, I was on mile 470 or whatever, and there was a moose carcass. Did you guys see that? Massive fucking hole in its head. Oh, yeah, Dallas punched it. Yeah.

Dallas covered in blood. Yeah, he's actually wearing the moose head. He looks like Michael. Like Leo in the bear. Rest in peace to that moose. Yep. Rest in peace, moose. What happened with Leo in that bear? He looks like Michael. Rest in peace to that moose. What happened with Leo and that bear? I didn't watch that movie. It's based on a true story.

Out of Leo? Who wins in the end? Leo. He sleeps inside a horse. He had to gut a horse. Like Bear Grylls did. And sleep inside of it to stay warm. Leonardo DiCaprio? Yep.

Was this any Iditarod? No. Similar conditions. And also happening in sports, ladies and gentlemen, Joey Chestnut. Chestnuts. Has returned to the limelight last night, destroying pierogies. Oh, is that what those are? At the Cavaliers Celtics halftime

performance, Jason and Travis Kelsey are in attendance. The Cavaliers are in second in the Eastern Conference. What are we going to do at halftime? Three pierogi eaters versus one greatest eater of all time. Joey Chestnuts ate more pierogies than all

three of the Ohio fucks on the left side trying to keep up in the same event. Competition eating is happening right now. Good work, Joe. Joey Chestnut still has his fastball, AJ. That's what I'm seeing. Does he have some kind of residency with the Cavs? Because I went to a game a couple years ago,

and Joey ate something at halftime on the Jumbotron from a tunnel in the back. No, the Cavs just get it. Yeah. They know that when Joey Chestnut's a table. 39? Oh, my goodness. He had 39? He didn't even know.

I thought I was going to get 50. Oh, look at him. Yep, fucking champ. Still got it. Jason and Travis Koster, that's champ. Exactly. That's greatest of all time. Do you remember?

It wasn't that long ago, 4th of July, when they were going to cancel the hot dog eating contest, and Joey Chestnut said, no we're not. We're fucking doing it. They said, Joey Chestnut, there's some lightning though, or something like that. He said, I am lightning. I bring the thunder. I am the storm. Get the cameras,

hoist it up into metal things, let's do this thing. And guess what they did? Yes, right away, Mr. Chestnut. They ran it right off the bat. You're talking about a goat. Competition speedings happen. Welcome back Joey Chestnuts. Good to have you. And that's what's

sports that are happening currently. I'm happy we did that. Can we address the elephant in the room though? They're eating elephants? No, he's talking about I never knew that they called dumplings pierogies or something new every day. I'm not doing that. Who said that?

You can guess. You know who. You know who. I have a couple of names running through my head. Go ahead. Yep, those two are kind of... Let's hear it. The two at the top are the ones.

When did this person say this? Last night, immediately after seeing the video of Joey Chestnuts goes, Oh, I didn't know dumplings were called pierogies. It's a heavy Pittsburgh type show. I feel like you, Pennsylvania, you understand the pierogie situation. You would think, yeah. And we were all mightily offended immediately. And then his tag team partner, Stupor, jumped in and goes,

I'm right there with you. I'm right there with you, Bobby. That was talk, obviously. Dumpy has some weird name for them, too. They're called Roguelords for short. Roguelords? Yeah, so the regular pierogies are pierogies, but if you spruce them up, cheese, peppers, onions,

they're called Roguelords. What's the long version of roguelords? Pierogi has more letters than roguelords. Does it? That's hard to imagine. Might be tied. Probes, it is technically wrong. Anyways, welcome back, Joey Chestnuts. Didn't even know.

Maybe he does dumplings next, talk. Yeah, that'd be cool. How about those pierogies squishing in his hands? So gross. You think he just did plain? Yeah, had to have. Does he puke or not? Does he puke after or not?

No, you're not allowed to in that particular thing. I mean, they train for this. Don't they eat lettuce, different things to try to expand their stomach? It's his full-time job for Joey Chestnut. He seems perfect. He lives this. He doesn't train this.

It's a talent that not a lot of people have. We actually, and we've said this numerous times before, and 39 pierogies in a minute is certainly phenomenal, however many minutes it was. It's a record break. He beat three Ohio Fox who eat. You see those guys. They eat. There's a record break. He beat three Ohio Fox who eat. You see those guys. They eat.

They go. There's no ozempic, those three. They are eating. They are doing that whole thing. His most impressive feat was when he drank 13 pints of beer in a minute and 10 seconds or so. We saw that at our show. Just came together for New Year's.

Joey Chestnuts happened to be in town. We know him. We've got a chance to chat with him. Hey, you want to stop by the show? Sure. Any chance you want to do anything on the show? Shoot, what are your ideas? It's New Year's Eve, everybody's drinking.

What if you drank like a few beers or whatever? I could probably do that. Well, what's like an impressive amount of beers if you did like six beers pretty quickly that'd be pretty crazy how about 13 yeah that sounds better we're 13 beers how quickly are you gonna do this because i'm not really a drinker that's other people's stuff i like i'm not i don't know it's going to go He took the first six down in like 30 seconds Gone, no spill At the end he started doing like a little

And then he got it And I'll tell you, he does not puke Because all that beer and alcohol was inside of him And we watched it For the next three hours He was awesome He washed it down with vodka afterwards He was fine until he mixed in was. He washed it down with vodka afterwards. He did a bottle of vodka.

He was fine until he mixed in the liquor and then it all hit him. So he is impressive. What we're saying, he is built different than everybody else. And he found his calling and thank God that that has become a sport that you can be a professional in and he's the right one. He's the right one for us. He is. Yeah. Keep going

Jaws. Don't stop. Let's get to a break, shall we? I forgot about that hot dog thing. That was so awesome. The scene of him walking. You remember when that PETA protester came up and he put the guy in a fucking headlock and like almost

choked him out? Yeah, everybody talks about old buddy coming up to Buzz and saying he didn't go to the moon and punch him. People forget about Joey Chestnut. Handling business with a beater. In the middle of heat. Joey Chestnut

takes no prisoners. No food left behind. Or booze. It was impressive, AJ. He could get a beer bong That holds like 8 beers I bet he could take it down in 4 seconds

So I've done a 6 beer one in Morgantown Jesus It was quite a feat I didn't know what I was signing up for Whenever I did it Large crowd So kind of put on a spot Showed up, walked into

Morgantown was awesome I don't know if it still is It was awesome Invited to a gathering at a house. Walk over. As soon as you get there, everybody's in the front yard. There's a beer bong hanging from like the third floor. I'm like, you want to do it?

I'm like, sure. What'd I do? Oh, you get to super one. What do you mean? Six beers in there. Oh, I already agreed to this. I'm standing on this thing. Let me do this.

That thing hits my mouth like a fire hose. So a little bit of spray, but it's going down. Finish it. Yeah! Place goes bananas. Fucking awesome. Middle of the day. I felt like a legitimately holy shit type moment.

I fucking did it. Half a second after that thing went down, it was trying to get back up. And I had to turn a corner. Projectile. We're talking projectile across street. That thing was coming right back out. Joey Chestnuts does not have that somehow. I don't know what

it is. He's able to stretch his stomach just to keep stuff in there without having the, hey, this is way too much. I don't know how he does it. Genuinely, I have no idea. Let's see who the next one is. He's able to stretch his stomach just to keep stuff in there without having the, hey, this is way too much. I don't know how he does it. Genuinely. I have no idea. Let's see who the next one is. He made people forget about it with Kobayashi and I thought nobody would beat that guy. They were trying to babyface Kobayashi too.

I watched the documentary and was like, America. That's what I thought. Boom. Okay. Our wonderful way to go. Sports! Our wonderful way to go. That's A.J. Hawk. He's a Super Bowl champion and college football national champion. The Toxic Table is here.

At Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt, sweet hat. Hey, thank you. Shout out Jack Carr. Has he got anything going on? He's doing something. He's been very active on his Instagram. New series is coming out. Yes, he is writing his next book. He actually, this day in history,

Jack Carr released his first novel in the Terminalist. Wow. Come on. I can't believe that came up. I can't believe that came up. That's how much respect we have for Jack Carr. Amen. Remember, he headshotted Arthur I. Fishel right here. Boom.

Bang. Guns still up there. Yeah. Zoom in on that. Zoom in on that, Foxy. No coverage. No coverage. I have to go to the other side.

We don't have the other side up. Son of a. There it is. Boom. Oh, sweet. Boom. Thank you, Jackor. Thank you, Jack. Love you, Jack. other side we don't have the other side up son of a there it is boom oh sweet boom thank you jack car thank you jack love you jack jack car saved the world with that gun he did nobody will ever ever understand that jack car saved the world with that gun right there that's right ai was gonna blow everything up that is real yeah and we took care of it we won't shout out to him

shout out jack car and the winkler axis I can't wait for the next book. Oh, I know. I can't wait for the next show. One half of the hammer. Cowboys turn digs this year. NFL legend and current universal rapper, Pac-Man Jones.

Joining us now is a tight end who just signed a three-year deal with the Houston Texans, the team we watched him play for last year after having a five-year career with the Dallas Cowboys. Want to Stanford? Big brain. Big brain.

Ladies and gentlemen, big pockets now. Dalton Schultz. Hey, thank you so much for joining us, brother. Congrats on a new deal. Let's talk about it a little bit. Last year, we year we were watching cj stroud in wonder and amazement about how he seemed to so easily dissect nfl defenses and not make any mistakes what was it about your offense last year you think that uh was the reasoning or cause for the success that you had and how pumped are you to be back with houston to continue to build on what you guys started this last year dude so pumped man um to have a guy come

in like that like and step in and just be able to like you know take the reins and hit the ground running um CJ's he quickly submitted himself as you know one of the top quarterbacks in the league man and um you know I can't say that everybody, you know, saw it coming from, you know, just a rookie, but, you know, talking to CJ, it's just the amount of belief and trust that he has in himself, the way that he carries himself, he was able to do some special things. And yeah, obviously that's, that was a big part of me wanting to come back is like, I want to surround myself with guys like that and, you know, guys that kind of galvanize, you know, a football team. and I think he absolutely does that. So, yeah, man, it's a great time to be a Texan,

and I'm super excited that I'm back. Well, except for when you guys play at Colts, obviously. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah. Dalton, how early on did you know that you made the right decision going to Houston? CJ's first year, your first year there. Obviously, you're hopeful and you look around and say, this looks like a great opportunity your first year there did you like obviously you're hopeful when

you look around and say this looks like a great opportunity but then when did you know like okay that we are a legit squad we have a team we can we can go far um honestly maybe like week three four like we knew we had a pretty good team um we just hadn't put it all together yet um but just when you see again going back to cj just when you see a quarterback just able to make every single throw again and again and again um you know and able to kind of stay humble about it and you know realize that you know he's not quite all the way there and maybe his footwork or like maybe he could have gotten the second read a little faster you know what i mean it's like through all the success that he was having,

he kept going back to like, okay, like how can I get better though? Like how much, you know, better can I be? And I think everybody kind of saw that. You know, and I think we started to stack a couple games, especially late in the season. It was, you know, maybe week 12, 13, and we're staring at a playoff opportunity and we're like, you know, this is it.

Like this is our shot. Like we got to, you know, put and we're like you know this is this is it like this is our shot like we got to you know put one together and you know make a push and so um i think early seeing cj's success is when i first noticed it but i think you know as the year went on and we were able to stack games like that's when teams get dangerous and i mean we rolled into the playoffs hot and you know you know got the first game done and then ran into a really good ravens team but um again i'm excited for the future i'm excited for you know, got the first game done and then ran into a really good Ravens team. But, again, I'm excited for the future. I'm excited for, you know, the core of young players that we have. I think the sky's the limit.

Yeah, you talk about first-year quarterback, first year in Houston. There's a first-year head coach down there too. And I think that's why the expectations were nowhere near what the outcome of your season ended up being. That place was – I mean, you know this as you were looking around. I guess you knew the people, but just outside looking in, it was like that place is probably two, three years away. They had two picks in the first three picks last year. They made a trade, obviously, but you earned one of those particular picks.

And all of a sudden, it's just like boom. And then you listen to D'Amico talk, and it's like, oh, my God, this is everything that I would want in a head coach in the NFL. Describe him, obviously obviously after playing somewhere else so you have a little bit of perspective of what it could potentially be like and why do you think the miko has had to success this quickly being a head coach of an nfl team guys just believe in it man like i don't know if you guys have talked to him a bunch like the first thing that always jumps out about the miko is like dude his energy he's got like an infectious energy like he's always upbeat he's always like he's almost like bouncing

when he walks around you know what I mean and so um you know just talking with him you know when I first came in the building I I kind of I kind of gravitated towards that and um when you have a guy like that leading an NFL team I think guys gravitate towards that as well. And I mean, he did a fantastic job all year, man. Like, yeah, I'd say. Yeah. Yeah. You know, he listened. And I think for a first year head coach, like being able to kind of sit back and, you know, take in some of the some of the feedback that, you know, players give him, whether that player be a rookie or, you know, take in some of the feedback that, you know,

players give him, whether that player be a rookie or, you know, a 12-year guy. You know, as a player, you really feel like he cares and he listens. And just the amount of respect that, you know, I had for who he was kind of coming in. Like, I knew he was going to be a good coach. It was just, you know, can he be a good head coach? And I think he's going to cement himself as one of the great head coaches around the league going forward. But, man, he's so fun to play for.

It's just a blast. Yeah, too much fun, baby. The history books obviously are riddled with failures at head coach in the NFL. Not an easy easy job especially like former players you know because you gotta hold people accountable you gotta have this there's a chance you can let things get away it's like seemingly when he was at the niners everybody loved him and that's why i got the head coaching opportunity and then he gets a chance to do it flips a team a whole city flips a whole city around now obviously a lot of pieces to that

but he was the head coach when it takes place. There's other teams now that are going to hope, like you saw Houston-Texas were able to do. That's what people hope. Cincinnati, a few years back, they go from four wins to go to the Super Bowl. There's been a couple of those riddled throughout. For me, as a Colts fan, that sucks.

Because I thought there was at least five, ten years here. Jags are one of those teams, too. Yeah, exactly. Jacksonville was able to figure it out. So the AFC South all of a sudden becomes a monster, and we're very thankful that you're going to be here for at least three more years on your new deal.

But when you talk about playing for the Houston Texans, you played for the Cowboys for five years, right? You were there for five years. If our math is right on Wikipedia, it's always hard to do the time. Was it five seasons? Yeah, five. Okay, and I never played for the Cowboys. Pac-Man did play for the Cowboys, but we kind of get displayed and

showcase what it's like to play for the Cowboys. You're on national TV every single week. Practice facility is filled with people paying for tickets for practice. It's a whole different world, allegedly. Have you enjoyed? Obviously, you enjoyed your time in Dallas. Like it's a whole different world, allegedly. Have you enjoyed, like obviously you enjoyed your time in Dallas. I'm not going to say that.

But like when you get to Houston, is it vastly different than your time in Dallas whenever you're talking about all the off the field? Is it? Is that real? Yeah, no, that was one of the first things that kind of stuck out to me is like it feels like much more, I don't want to say college because it's not but like the focus is just football you know what i mean and going back and like telling some people like how kind of being around the cowboys like practice facility and you know game day um describing some of the interactions and stuff that you see on a day-to-day basis like surprised a lot

of people they're like holy crap like that actually happens like at a practice facility and like you know it's just you think it's normal and then you come to a place like this like what like what you don't have to out anything but like what are you no dude it's just like you there's people literally going on tours um while you're lifting in the weight room and they've got like a one-way they've got a one-way mirror for people to like, look at, like, it's literally, it's a zoo, dude. People tapping on the glass, like trying to get people's attention as they're doing, you know, power cleans or whatnot. And it's just, it's different. And I mean, that's the brand that they've built. That's, you know, that's what Jerry Jones likes. That's the way that they run things. And there's nothing wrong with that. It's

just, you know, you don't realize like how many, you know, eyeballs and how much that can maybe, you know, distract from, you know, stuff just in the locker room being in the facility until you go somewhere else and you're like, holy crap, like, dude, there's none of that. Like this is, you know, also a really well-run organization in Houston. And I think that was one of the things that kind of scared me about like leaving Dallas the most is like, I wasn't sure what another organization would kind of feel like.

And dude, I got here and it was like, this place is a well-oiled machine. Like it's, you know, coaching staff, the coaching changes. I can't speak to the previous stuff,

but like the strength staff is phenomenal. The training staff is unbelievable. This has been the most like trainers that I've ever seen on a staff and they take really amazing care of the players um the nutrition staff is phenomenal the the chefs they like they came in and they poached like five of the best chefs in the houston area and they paid them a bunch more and they're like come you know come hang out and cook for us and so it's like everything that they kind of do is really top-notch. And not being sure of how another organization would kind of be run leaving Dallas, I was so happy.

No! Everything you're saying is wrong. Remember, Houston was a dumpster park. Oh, yeah. Come to Houston, baby. No, you need to relax. That sounds amazing. That sounds like an NFL, like how it's supposed to be. baby. No, you need to relax. That sounds amazing. That sounds like an NFL, like how it's supposed to be.

These NFL PA report cards just came out. And there's like some places getting like F minuses on facilities. I assume there's some ownership learning about how their team feels about them where they're like, we're in a Melvin Dixie run. I'm holding the Super Bowl first. You guys give me an F minus. What the hell? What are we even talking about?

I got a six-bedroom suite in the stadium. That's pretty cool. That's cool. It's like, those things start happening. So listening to you describe what Houston is, I think a lot of fans just automatically assume that's how it is everywhere. It's like, no. That is not how it is everywhere. Not that it isn't in Dallas. I assume Dallas is like that, but I think

outside looking in of the Houston Texans organization, hearing you say that, there's probably a lot of people like, damn, I did not expect that. Speaking of the Houston Texans coaching staff that you talked about being a top-of-the-line strength coach is a big one. The guy calling the shots is as well. Go ahead, Ty.

Yeah, Dalton, what's your relationship like with Coach Slowik and how jacked up are you? Because obviously when you guys kind of went on that run into the playoffs and everything, his name started getting put out there for head coaching jobs. I don't know if he actually took any interviews. He might have had one or two. But how excited are all you guys that he's coming back?

And why is he, like, why is it so fun to play with him? And I guess what did he do to kind of, because you're obviously good in Dallas, but same thing, you hit the ground running, and it feels like he further unlocked your potential this year yeah no doubt dude um the biggest thing that jumped out to me right away about bobby was just his knowledge of the game like a lot of times you've got ocs and offensive minded guys that come from quarterback rooms that are purely dictated on like passing game and understanding you know passing concepts and how we can take advantage of that dude one of the first meetings that we had was we all sat down and like bobby broke down like lyman's footwork on how to block outside zone and

like where to put your hands and like where to put your hat and it's like this guy is like he not only understands like all the passing stuff but it's like he's breaking down the run game stuff and like the jobs of like the offensive lineman and he's telling him exactly how to do it and exactly how he wants it and then he's breaking down the back track of exactly where he kind of feels like this should go and it's like when we're in the room watching these plays and he's able to like articulate just exactly how he envisions and he's able to communicate with everybody like that was my like oh shit moment of like dude this guy is he's really he's really knowledgeable um how do you not get a coaching job why is he still there why why is it why is

he still in the i don't know man but i'm glad i'm glad he's still there watching you guys yeah it was awesome watching it was awesome watching you. It was explosive. It was explosive. It was smart. It was cerebral. You still ran the rock. Your offense was awesome to watch. Now, obviously, CJ had the greatest rookie season in the history,

but it's like, Slowik, this name all of a sudden comes out of nowhere. It's like, oh, football genius. That's what we're dealing with here? I mean, I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to jinx anything. But, like, dude, Bobby's a hell of an offensive coach, man. He's a great offensive mind. And I'm excited, too, because, you know, there was a lot of trust between, you know,

Bobby and CJ being two first-year guys. And I think that, you know, that relationship's only going to grow. And I think, you know, Bobby's going to grow a lot in his play calling. And I'm excited to see kind of what he comes up with in year two, now that we're not starting from ground zero, now that we're able to kind of, you know, start at, you know, the fifth level of offense, you know, going into year two and not having to go back to basics.

So that'll be nice, man. It's going to be a fun run. Yeah, it is. It's going to be a blast. This sucks. CJ, every time he comes on the show, like, oh, that's what I would like a franchise quarterback to be. Stud.

And you're Dalton. Talk about the whole organization as a whole. That's not who the Texans are supposed to be. No. That's not how this is supposed to go. But they are. We got Anthony Richardson. Yeah.

We got Shane Steichen. True. We're supposed to. This is our time. And then now the big bad wolf is seemingly down in Houston against us. You guys walked right into the Lod House and broke our hearts, Dalton. You know that. Just broke our hearts that last game. You know that. Just broke our hearts

that last game. What a game. That was such a fun game. Legit environment. Hostile. That was so fun. Those are the games like why you play ball. That's great. We can talk about Indy if you want to talk about Indy.

Okay, let's talk about Indy. Obviously, I have massive respect for the Houston Texans organization. We have a better relationship with the Houston Texans seemingly than any organization in the entire NFL. But it's all from a matter of respect. I love playing down there. That was the loudest stadium that I'd ever played in. I didn't get a chance to play in Seattle.

But every time we played the Houston Texans, it was normally for the AFC South. It was normally on Thursday night football. And the Houston Texans fans were the loudest. J.J. Watt was doing all his ridiculous fucking shit. All of his shit he was doing. The dancing, the swatting, the catching, the tight end,

the sacking, the whole thing. It was a great environment. CJ said the same thing you did. You voted a little bit in Indianapolis. It was a good environment up there? It was sweet. It was awesome. It was a playoff environment. It was fun. It was a playoff environment, dude. Like, it was fun. It was, like, fun to be a part of.

Everybody likes to, you know, go to an opposing team city and, like, feel like, you know, everybody's against you. That's, like, half the fun of playing the NFL is being a villain sometimes. We definitely felt like that in Indy. And then what? And then we won. Good, AJ.

You got a question for fucking Dalton Schultz? Dalton, staying in line with what you're saying and going into Indy and getting a big win like that, what do you think it is about athletes, about teams? Like, why does it feel so good to go into somebody else's house, beat them down, and then just pack the bags and go home with just the people that you came with? What is it about that?

Why does that build? You feel like that builds the team together? Yeah, I mean, it's the competitive switch that all professional athletes have. It's how you got here. It's proving somebody wrong. It's going against expectations. It's coming into a place where everybody thinks that you're not going to do shit and you come out with a dub. It's all of those factors kind of into one and um

just again going back to that competitive drive like it's that's half the fun man like winning is winning is fun but like you know making somebody else lose sometimes especially if it's a rival like that's you know just as fun yeah i'm sure it was a blast it was a real good time we were a part of that hostile environment. And watching your team, like CJ was just like this the whole time. Yeah. No, he's very level-headed. How are you?

You talk shit from Utah, right? I'm like that. I'm level-headed too. I'm just like him. If somebody is talking, I'll talk back. But I don't got a ton of ammunition in the tank. I don't want to talk to a D-end, and all of a sudden, now this freaking 300-pound guy who runs a 4-4 is like,

now he decides to turn it up a little bit. Is that right? I pick my battles. You went to Stanford. What did you major in Stanford? It's called STS, but it was like game design, dude. So it was like a little athlete major. You pick your own classes, and I picked all mine around video game design.

Like Grandma's Boy? Yeah. Coding or what? Yeah, like coding. Yeah, like working in Unity, working in some game engines, making games. I did some VR projects. But, yeah, that's kind of what I centered games. I did some VR projects. But yeah, that's kind of what I centered myself. I want to do something in gaming

whenever I'm done playing, hopefully in 10 years. You're coding video games? That's what you're doing? Yeah, that's what I did in college. I haven't coded a video game in a long time. But yeah, that's kind of what got me into it. We're talking like the

like Pong, like that type of game are you coding these ones where i actually i actually did code um i don't think it was pong it was another it was another like simple game like that where like you have to you have to make you know the basic game dude it was a game like pong but yeah i've coded i've coded stuff like that so you love video games that's why you got into that yeah for sure which game we playing is fortnite dead is that still happening i'm still going hell it's funny to me so i built my wife a computer and we play fortnite together oh yeah where'd you meet the wife at uh in the bay in the bay. She went to San Francisco State.

I was down at Stanford. She's a gamer as well? I've made her a gamer. She's watching Fortnite streams on TikTok now. Do you stream? Are you good? I stream. I do. I'm going to start streaming here in the next couple weeks.

I like to play. I'm a gamer for sure. Are we good or is Ninja just beating your ass? If you were to get in oh dude ninja is a pro like that's like you know joe schmoe off the street talking shit to a patrick queen okay so you suck just tell me you suck though and you suck at fortnite you do you play fortnite i don't play video games bro no i suck i suck at video games i am like actually the worst player do you remember uh i signed up for a madden tournament yeah and katie nolan took it to you maybe by 50 we're even cheating we did the whole like i was using a fake controller in the fourth quarter ty was using the actual controller couldn't come i am so bad at video i'm the worst video game player

of all time i don't know why my thumbs just can't you know i just can't do it you've been a kid you've been a kicker your whole career man like yeah a lot of video game nerds in the kicking community i'm saying it makes it makes sense you got no like hand eye it's all feet like maybe that's how i need to view it when i'm playing video games I need to view it When I'm playing video games I need to view it as This is hand eye coordination Because the only thing that happens is my thumbs

Especially those like These ones I get sick watching me And then I can't find the person How many hours are we playing video games? Are you playing in season? So in season not a whole lot I'll get

you know maybe an hour or two like what the fuck we just saw your setup right here holy damn that's one of his theaters pat yeah that's uh that's that's like my little gaming command center i got two pcs mounted underneath i use one for streaming, one for gaming. You built that computer? Yeah, I built both of them. How many... RPM. How many... How fast is your rig? How fast is your rig, dude?

How fast is the rig? It's fast. Nowadays, it's not necessarily about the speed. It's about how many cores you got. How much VRAM you have in your graphics card and whatnot. Oh, the VRAM is so real. Yeah, the VRAM and the gigahertz speeds. Yeah, I've been talking about VRAMs for the last couple weeks.

Oh, yeah. You get a fucking V. I'm at the Houston setup right now, so I have another one down here. Oh, go full. Hold on, hold on, hold on. We got to go. Can you turn that phone sideways? Turn that son of a bitch sideways.

Yeah, I got you. You got that massager thing I see to the right. Sorry, what? Excuse me? What's that? For real, dude. Go to your right, right there. That thing.

Like, massage your back. Yeah, I got the little Theracane. Yeah. That's because you're gaming. You don't have good posture, Dalton. You got good posture while you're gaming over there or no? Dude, I need a freaking Herman Miller deal. I use Herman Miller chairs only. Oh out no good yeah let's cheers come on herman miller hook a guy up so far away too well not too many we've done this we've done this whole song and

dance with the gaming chairs before we ended up with 75 gaming chairs in our office we've just couldn't give them away which we are't give them away, which we are very grateful. Thank you to all the gaming chair companies that make the same exact gaming chair and put their name on it as if they're different. And we appreciate them for doing that. But it takes up so much. If you have high chairs, send them our way, too.

Yeah, we could have higher chairs. Tried to give those gaming chairs away. Couldn't even give them away because we had so many. It was impossible to ship. It cost us $700 to ship these things to people that are winning them it's like thanks for the chair but they're real deal how much you're parking in there off season how long yeah dude okay so when the season ended and we got done with the exit interviews i woke up at like 7 30 in the morning just because you know that's i'm still on the in-season schedule and i didn't get off the game until 3 30 in the morning damn so i went from 7 30 to 3 30 like straight god or dad

where'd you pee it was yeah where'd you go right down the hall come on now this ain't the old school world of warcraft days, dude. You played WoW back in the day? I played, yeah. And you were just peeing your pants the whole time. Had a diaper on. War depends why you're playing that? Yeah, no. No, no, no.

Got a little bit better hygiene. I can tell you didn't. I can tell you War depends. Can't fool us. You peed your pants while you were playing World of Warcraft. Do you do any... So you're a gamer, big gamer. That's the hobby.

Yeah. Yeah, that's what I want're a gamer, big gamer, that's the hobby. Yeah, that's like, that's what I want to do when I'm done, for sure. Professional, to build, but do you want to get

into the professional side of it or no? Yeah, you know, I'd be open to it. I don't know if I'd be down, you know, doing the whole design process.

Dude, it's a long time. Games are in development for, some games are in development for decades. Like, you know,

World of Warcraft has been in development for 30 years, it feels like. Well, when's GTA coming coming out aren't they supposed to be 25 next year you play that game you play gta i do yeah i do i played that on my phone on a flight that i had no internet for five and a half hours best gta on your phone yeah i didn't know it was possible i'm learning i'm learning i need that all of them i I went to school at Stanford for video games. Yep.

I actually coded GTA on your phone. There you go. Smart. Yeah. This is a good move by you guys. Thank you, Dalton. Thank you. I appreciate that.

All right, let's get back to football. Pac-Man has a question for you, Dalton. My undercover dog, Tank Dale. How's it playing with the younger receivers over there? And if y'all could do one thing to get better on the offense What would it be First of all Tank is a freaking beast Like everybody kind of

Saw it in OTAs When he first got out I don't think I've seen a dude being able to Stop that fast so quick He looks a little Unassuming because he's a little undersized compared to some of these other receivers um in the league but like good luck guarding that guy in man covers bro like he's he's a dog um and i think you know being around young cats even like nico like dude it's it's so fun being around guys that are just starting to

see the fruits of their labor pay off and are able to go into big-time games and make big-time game-changing plays like the 75-yard touchdown against Indianapolis in Week 18 to Nico Collins. But just being around guys like that, man, it's infectious, honestly. He made other plays too, Dalton, throughout the entire year. Oh, he did. He did. That was just the one that you know was fresh in my mind first play um and i think you know having having a group like that and a young hungry core of like young receivers is is valuable and i think you know the biggest step for us i think going forward is being able to get the run game going consistently

um so you know obviously that that starts with you know the guys playing and I'm excited to get back in the lab and take a look at that and take a look at stuff that we could have done better and I think you know when you give CJ a very good run game like the pass game is going to open up even more for those guys and so for me like I think it definitely starts with the run game are you uh I didn't watch enough film and I see you make ridiculous catches and all that stuff. Are we, are we, are we, are we, are we? Yeah. Yeah.

We're moving people. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We're, we're, we're, we're running feet. No, run the film. Somebody pull the film up. I don't know if we have any of those films. They don't have boring assass blocks in the Highlands.

But is that a big part of it? That's a big part of it, I assume, is the title. Yeah, no, for sure. In this game, dude, it's the San Francisco offense, dude. Like, George Kittle's made a living in this scheme. And so you're definitely asked to do stuff like that. And, you know, that's something that I love to do. And, you know, I take a lot of pride in.

I'm not saying it's easy work, dude. Like, again, sometimes you're going against those big DNs that, you know, run four fours and are 300 pounds. Like, it's a challenge blocking Myles Garrett in the playoffs. Like, you know, and so I think, you know, that being able to do that, though, sets you apart. set you apart obviously george kittles made a living off of being you know probably the most dynamic complete you know guy in terms of blocking receiving being a downfield threat but also being able to hold his own at the point of attack and pass blocking run blocking this offense is basically theirs it's a it's a version of theirs and so we're asked to do all the same stuff how hard was it to learn the offense when you get there and all all these offenses now are kind of, they're kind of,

do you know what other teams are doing? Like when you watch them, you're like, oh, this is probably going to be this play now. Cause that's kind of what it's become, right? Yeah, for sure. It's funny, like watching SF this year, they played a lot of the same opponents that we did. So like we'd watch their film and it's like, I'd see a play.

And I'm like, I know exactly what that play call was. Like I could literally call that play right now. Why does this offense work so well? Why does it work so well? Dude, that's a good question. That's why I don't coach. That's why I just – that's why I listen. Hey, tell the Colts right now why your offense.

We need to hear this entire thing. Go ahead, AJ. When you let me know, let me know. You. Go ahead, AJ. When you let me know, let me know. You're a fullback here. I guess you're a fullback here. Fullback. Who's that again, Pat? You might have put that on his film.

Yeah, it could have been on In the Trenches. You like playing fullback, don't you? You like getting back there in old school? Dude, that was like a one-off motion to a different spot. We weren't sure if they were gonna you know adjust a certain way and man i was so stoked because you know you get out in the open field and you see it you know like a smaller lighter body it's like okay like it's it's me and you stand them up square them up pack i mean that's uh he sent it back to his buddies.

Yeah, cut him. Take the blocker. Get out of the way. Fullback no longer leading anything. He's out of there. He's on top of me, but he's definitely out of the way. That's going to happen. You're going to get got every once in a while.

Tone Diggs has a question for you, and I would advise you to answer this one good. Yeah. Because this is a topic of discussion everywhere right now. It's a big topic of discussion everywhere and on the internet. Your former quarterback has decided to go from the beard to the goatee. I don't know if you've seen Dak's goatee recently. I wanted to see what your thoughts are on Dak going to the goatee, if that's like an evil empire type move for him, if you know.

And are you thinking about doing a same? Yeah. Am I thinking about going to the goatee? No, I'll leave that to the guys that can pull it off well. Nah, dude, like, great. Grow it, bro. Like, he's stepping into a different role. Like, he's a dad now.

Like, new look, great. I'm all for it. You got mustache? It looks like you got a pretty. Yeah, should do it. Yeah, dude, I keep the mustache going. now like new look great i'm all for it you got mustache it looks like you got a pretty yeah you should do it yeah dude i keep i keep the mustache going i haven't shaved in a few days but usually what are you scottish irish yep scotch irish scotch irish and german oh and german you're the whitest of the way i can't I can't hold a tan to save my fucking life.

Well, especially when you're gaming for 20 fucking hours. Go see the sun. The blue light's great. It gives you a little blue light tan. It looks really good. When's the next stream? Can we watch? Where is it?

Yeah, it's on my Twitch, twitch.tv slash Schultz. We're still doing Twitch. Okay, this is new to me because gaming world, that's how I learned of twitch was like gaming world and my brother used to be and i assume he still is very good gamer so i've been watching people play video games for a long time him and his friends have played pretty entertaining like if you're like paying attention and everything like that that was before people could do the internet stuff and i get bored i go outside i come back still watch them play and everything that becoming a full business made sense to me immediately. Like, yes, this would make a lot of sense for people to watch.

There's action, there's sports, there's personality, but then didn't Twitch just, yeah, Twitch lost a bunch of people, a bunch of people went to YouTube. And then there's other ones now like rumble stream kick. That's brand new, right? That's the brand new. I don't, I haven't followed along guys. I haven't checked out to be honest. They signed a bunch of talent. They signed a bunch of guys. What's that? I haven't checked it out, to be honest. They signed a bunch of talent. They signed a bunch of people. You follow along with all that shit, though?

Obviously, you're keeping up. I mean, my timeline, when I'm on social media in the offseason, my timeline's kind of full of that. Because I follow streamers. I follow a bunch of gaming stuff. And so all that kind of news is out there. Look how cool you look. Wait.

Is that you? Wait. That's not you. That's not you. That's not you look so cool. Look how cool you look. Wait. Is that you? Wait, that's not you. That's not you. That's not you. That is. Dalton, that's not you. There's no way. You're Captain Dalton.

Do you have bicep veins? There's bicep veins in there somewhere. All right, enjoy the hell out of yourself. We will follow along. Congrats on the new deal. Can't wait to see what you do with your rig. Yeah. When you set up the new deal. Are you in any businesses? All you

Stanford people always have side businesses. You do any of that or are you just gaming? Yeah, I do. I do, but gaming is kind of my thing. I got some other side businesses that I keep kind of low-key. Go to Bird. What the hell?

Sorry about that. I got financial people for you hey traveling with those elites yeah well that's stanford up there that is smart griffin coby fleener andrew luck henry anderson david perry harbaugh mccaffrey sure you know all the boys all the salty fifth years those guys were like some of those guys were salty fifth years when i came in i couldn't imagine henry anderson parent yeah bro like the saltiest yeah i bet that was good times there great crew yeah good people hey just like you congrats we appreciate you good luck the rest of the way thank you guys i appreciate you having me on you guys have a good one hey you too ladies and gentlemen don't show guys a fucking wizard.

He built those rigs? Dude, he built a computer. That's what I'm saying. I guess people build computers. That is a hobby. My brothers built a computer. Bill's built a computer. I know that people do it.

Is it because it's faster if you build it and you can juice it up? Yeah, because the gaming systems, you're kind of beholden to them, how they did. So then people introduced the computers and then the computers obviously, well, is this a good... Did Dell build a good enough computer for me to fucking...

No. So then they start building computers just for the... I think. I'm not... I just kind of watch along with other people. they're building these computers strictly so that they can fucking crush in these video games and it's quite an advantage yeah for others that don't have the computers you know and you can get caught up you can run into a buzzsaw when you can bring a knife basic ass console to a fucking gunfight which is one of these computers that has been built in the basement somehow and is at mock speed versus what yours is.

Yeah, that's why it matters more now because it used to just be you could only play with other computers or like PlayStation. You can only play with PlayStation. Now everyone's playing together. In a lobby. Everybody's in a lobby. Everyone's in a lobby.

Everybody's in a lobby. In the same lobby. Everybody's in a lobby. Yeah, someone should bring Bill some new shorts because during that conversation, I assume he splooshed eight to ten times. He excused himself to go jerk off in the bathroom. He's fine.

Smart man. No, I work, Bill. Okay? Let's make sure we remember that. That's two days in a row, because he also did it during the murderer conversation yesterday. Did anybody watch the Love Kills Stock Murders thing? No.

I feel like I watched it a lot yesterday. Did you see that? I got it all yesterday. You left a good doctor out. Craziest white of all time. Not like serial killers. I feel like I watched it a lot yesterday Did you see that? Craziest white of all time Not like serial killers Kind of put them out Different category She could have got there

We don't know They stopped her too soon Bingo She was the craziest person of all time Worthy of a watch Also feels like Dynasty A lot of mixed reviews coming in. Ty loves it.

I've enjoyed it quite a bit, yes. I've watched at least an episode or two episodes every single night this week. Okay, but people are saying this is a Bill Belichick, ain't worth a shit docuseries. Kind of. Isn't that what people are saying? Yeah, even just to what Lombardi. I love Bill Belichick. I am a Bill Belichick fan. I've proven that.

It is definitely a Kraft heavy... I can see why if you're a Patriots fan, it makes it... I wouldn't call it a hit piece, but I can see why people say, oh, this is basically set up to just

give Kraft all of the credit for this and Bill very little. But the thing that, like, the interviews that they do, like, the talking head interviews, like, I could give a shit about that stuff and, like, what Bob Kraft's son's saying. Like, I don't, whatever. Steven? The footage they have from the locker rooms after wins and stuff like that from the time and seeing Belichick, like, address the team and shit like that. Like, that stuff is awesome because that's the type of stuff that I just assumed we would never, ever see. What about NFL films?

I believe NFL films has kind of distanced themselves from the documentary because of the fact that, to Ty's point, it's not just crushing Bill, but it's slanted against him. There's no denying that. As a Patriots fan, sure, but there's no denying that when you watch an NFL film, allegedly it's kind of just been like, yeah, that's not, we didn't do this. Slanted against just Bill or the Patriots in general?

Bill. I mean, no, it's not, anyone who says it's slanted against the Patriots, that's wrong. They go through the Patriots scandals and stuff. That's not slanted against them. That's what happened. But the way they're talking about it, especially when it comes to Bill's involvement, it is slanted against him.

I will say one of the best clips, too, is after the undefeated season, Bill gives a speech, and it's pretty cool to see that speech, and then when Tom comes up and does a speech right after that. Yeah, Bill Belichick, greatest coach and GM of all time. I hope that doesn't get forgotten. Tom says a lot of good things about him. When Tom gets his talking head segments, he says a lot of good things about Bill, how much Bill helped him.

And then they talked about how much fun they had during the undefeated season because they could tell Bill was like, because of all the Spygate stuff, Bill was determined to run it up on teams and just really drive it home and reinforce it. In Man in the Arena, they mentioned that too because they did the same thing. A couple guys interviewed each episode and I believe Tom actually is the one that said it.

He said after Spygate happened, they were like, oh, you guys think this is why we're good at football? And then they scorched earth 18-1. Alright. Also, on the other side of that, Teddy Bruschi did drop a little bit nugget saying how, I think it was guys think this is why we're good at football and then they scorched earth 18-1 all right also on the other side that teddy bruski did drop a little bit nugget saying now like i think it was the defense maybe but some of the guys were kind of pissed at bill for me for this whole spaghet thing getting out and becoming a story and it was interesting did it feel like they were really

maybe a little bit interesting is there a lot of this in there a little there's definitely a little bit. Interesting. Is there a lot of this in there? A little. There's definitely a little. Go to the high horse barn. Election season's coming. Election season's coming. Craft Sun is planted on a very high horse the entire time, I will say. Are they doing an interview like this?

Is the camera angle like this on it? They do have to kind of refocus the shot. He's sitting on the horse looking like that. Yep. Yeah, it looks good now. They do have to kind of refocus. He's sitting on the horse looking like that. Yep. Yeah, it looks good now, but I'll tell you who will be public enemy number one if this does go south, and it will be Jonathan Kraft. A thousand percent. Feels like it already is.

No, no. Listen to Connor talking. You know, his eyes, the way. Oh, no. Is this how we want to talk? If they want to do that. I mean, seriously, though, think about the timing of this. Bill leaves, and that is completely separate from the Dynasty dot,

but Bill leaves, and now Jonathan has a lot of say, and now it is going to be a big handprint on it. Obviously, Robert is a little older, so Jonathan, he is the next one up. And if it goes bad, people will fucking hate Jonathan Kraft. Especially after this. I already do. You said you liked him. I like the show as a whole. I think

Jonathan Kraft's kind of a pissant. I kind of tune out every time his talking head comes up. The Kraft family runs like the media thing. I think he's going to be on TV a lot probably going forward. I'll have to figure it out. I think he's going to be on TV a lot. Probably. Yeah. I'll, I'll, I'll have to figure it out.

You know, I'll have to just stomach it, I suppose. But I, I have not enjoyed his segments. Does he know that you think, or he think he kills it? Uh, well, there's one part where he has like a very, like he, he starts talking and he stops and he's like, I need to, um, really figure out how I want to portray this and say this. I don't know why they left that in there, but they did. And I was like, you know what? Fuck this guy. This isn't as serious as he's making it out. That's art. That's good.

Matt Harum Hamcheck Hamcheck I had the ha and then there was a middle, and then there's a... The CK. I-C-E-C. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. You lose to hate your owner no matter what, though. That's not true. No one hates Bob Kraft right now. Nobody. Well, because they've won so much. Oh, yeah, sure. But if, I mean, if they lose...

I don't think anybody hates Jim Irsay. That's Colts fans. Yeah. They got a ring, though. Long time ago. We haven't won anything in eight years. We got banners. Remember when C.J. Stroud dropped that little nugget at Radio Row?

When was the last time Colts won? Yeah. He knew. That was crazy. He knew the answer. And then we looked it up. It was like almost a decade ago. It was a decade ago.

Holy fuck. It's been a long time. As these Houston Texxans did you hear dalton schultz talking we plucked five of the best chefs in houston houston used to be known for restaurants that's genius yeah that's what houston's owned for yeah i just plucked five of the chefs you guys paid them more yeah six through ten could you imagine holy fuck we're the top five. We run Houston now. That's awesome. Pump for those guys. Things have changed. We are now the top chefs in a city. The...

Third largest, I believe. Bigger than Chicago? No. No, no, no. So New York, LA, Chicago, Houston. Houston. Phoenix? Yeah, and Houston's flying. And then Pittsburgh. Chicago has more, Chicago. Houston. Phoenix. Yeah, and Houston's flying. And then Pittsburgh. Chicago, I'd go with two.

I don't think Pittsburgh's in there. Columbus isn't either, so I don't even need to hear it, AJ. Boston's in there. Boston's small, too. It's top ten. Is it? I hope. I don't think so.

It's smaller. Boston is small. It is. No, it is a small. You think Boston's going to be bigger when you go up there. Absolutely. Personally. When I went up there, I was like, oh, this is... And it's like the size of Pittsburgh, it is a small city. You think Boston's going to be bigger when you go up there. Absolutely. Personally. Like, when I went up there, I was like, oh, this is...

And it's like the size of Pittsburgh, it feels like. Bruce said 25. 25. Where's Pittsburgh? Where's Pittsburgh? Farther down. 68. Oh.

Where's Des Moines? Got to be up there somewhere. That's because, did you know, they only do the inner city for the Pittsburgh population. But not for Houston. They do the entire, because Houston is hour and a half tip to tip. No, Indiana, where I live, counts as Indianapolis. That plum does not count as Pittsburgh's population. That's the same as

Houston. Really? What's that all about? Why's that not? That doesn't make any sense. 1-5-2-3-9. Allegheny County. That's Pittsburgh. Why is Atlanta at-5-2-3-9. Allegheny County. That's Pittsburgh. Why is Atlanta at 49? How is that right? 38.

Tampa's at 49, I think. 38, I mean, yeah. Colorado Springs is bigger than... You're telling me Columbia? Ohio is bigger than... What is it? This list is a lie. Miami is 44.

Where's Victoria, British Columbia? It's not America. It's Wachita. Wachita's at 50. What a moment. I can't believe that happened this past year. Can we get to Des Moines? Now I want to know.

Me too. Honolulu. Newark is, there's no way. Cincinnati, 64. Look at Cincinnati. Pittsburgh, 60. What is the title of said list here? We're at 68. 2002 estimate. Pittsburgh 60. What is this? What is the title of said list here? We're at 68.

2002 estimate. We're going to go down. The table displays. Census. 2022 estimate. 2020 census change. 2020 land area. 2020 density. Huh? It's if you scroll up a little, I think it has like the guidelines. The table displays the city ranked by population as of July 1st, 2022 and as estimated by census, the city name the name of the state in which the city lies the city population Also, what's considered the city?

Well, that's what he was just talking about Atlanta was what, 60th? Well, Houston though Houston is massive Are they counting everybody that is in Houston? This is saying Omaha, Nebraska is a bigger city than Atlanta. So there it is.

Can we somehow organize it as seven, the city land area, as of January 1? Is there a way to? I don't think so. It's the population, right? I do like that they gave us the longitude and latitude. Yeah, land area. See if miles miles if you click miles really easy to read boom cambridge mass got your number one i know that's the smallest

yeah you're the tiniest yeah daily city though got no hope houston is the third biggest yeah so there you go miles square miles anchorage is huge yeah see how indy is 10th as far as square miles. Anchorage is huge. See how Indy is 10th as far as square miles. Yeah. We're in Indianapolis, but we are 25 minutes downtown. What's the square miles for Pittsburgh? A lot of hills. Columbus, 28.

Right under Chicago. Las Vegas is bigger than... See, Atlanta, they only did 56 square miles. Or, sorry, 50. Little Rock fucking bigger than See Atlanta they only did It's 56 square miles Or sorry 50 Little Rock fucking bigger than Pittsburgh Pittsburgh's kind of No I'm telling you they only do the

For like right in that I don't know Cape Coral is bigger North Las Vegas is bigger than Pittsburgh Lincoln, Nebraska? Des Moines? Where the fuck is Pittsburgh? We must have passed it.

Baltimore. We must have passed it. Keeps coming. Cincy, Cleveland? Cedar Rapids. Wow, two cities in Iowa before Pittsburgh? Relax, relax.

Everybody but Pittsburgh. Oh, Davenport, there's a third. Shout out to Seth Rollins. What the fuck? Honolulu is bigger than Pittsburgh. There it is. Look, Dayton's above it. Coming in at a strong 168.

What the fuck, dude? What are we doing? How are the people in charge of Pittsburgh like, you know what? Yeah, we want to count just the south side. I think that's what they do. What are we doing? This is a lie about everything list, Pittsburgh. Bigger Minneapolis.

They don't want more people coming, you know. It's like they don't want to spoil a good thing. Odessa. Jeez, how's Anaheim? Good town, good town, good people. Carmel, Indiana, wow. There's Boston. Carmel, Indiana. Wow. There's Boston. Carmel, Indiana.

Nice. Oh, so basically they just took that size of an area. Told you. I told you. It's just like the downtown. All right. I'm bummed out about that. Don't be.

No, truth to it. I am. I'm bummed out. Quantity over quality. Flip it. Pac-Man, you want to do a giveaway on this big sports winner Wednesday? What do you want to do? You tell me.

No, we don't know where you're at right now. We don't know if you've been playing. Oh, there it is. There it is. Poops. Whoa. All right. Haven't had somebody putt in a while.

Long time. You have five putts because there's five on this particular side of the green. Shout out to our friends at Topgolf for sending us more balls and things like that. Thank you, Topgolf. I think they're with Callaway, right? I believe so, yes. $4.6 billion or something like that. I saw something. Darius Butler sent me some. Topgolf? Yeah, how much money Topgolf Callaway? Callaways.

I think they're really doing well. Congrats to them. And thanks to the Topgolf people for coming up with a brilliant concept for golf. And congrats to them for capitalizing on it. Absolutely. And cashing out on it. Big time.

It's American Dream. Keep going. Keep going. All right, Pac. You look incredibly clean today. You're going to have a sweet fit. Match the pants. Match the jacket.

Love my shoes. You tried to take them off my feet. Well, your shoes match everything. Thank you. Your shoes are something. Thank you very much. All right, Pat. Are we golfing right now or no?

Yeah. We have been golfing. So we're doing two out of five? Look, I want to say two. I'm leaning one. Two out of five. I think two. He'll make it a three.

Three. I was thinking three in my head as well. If he's playing, three. How often are we playing? He lives on a golf course. I played last week. I played four times. Two.

It's got to be three. All right, three. He's played four times last week. Okay, there's only seven days in a fucking week he played four of them. Yep. That's a lot of golfing. Mm-hmm. Got to go two out of five.

Mm-hmm. You go two out of five, we'll give 20 winners of $500. of five. You got two out of five. We'll give 20 winners a $500. As Cheeks is hanging out in the other room watching along with incredible vibes. Baby Cheeks. Pac-Man Jones. Oh, hold on.

Hold the phone. That was a nice golfing show. He's making them all. Make five. He remembers the break on his green potentially from last offseason. Oh no, we talked too soon. Uh-oh, rattled. Only has to go one of three here for 20 people Make five. He remembers the break on his green potentially from last offseason. Oh, no. We talked too soon. Uh-oh.

Rattled. Only has to go one of three here for 20 people to win $500. Oh, that might go. Pac-Man Jones! He's got to go 50% here. That's tough. Golf is not working out. Got to go 50% here on the final two for the people.

20 people, $500 if Pac-Man Jones is able to bury this particular golf ball into that. Not going to make it again. Two in a row. And that's right on. That was a good one. Great line. Hit a hose.

Hit a hose. He has been golfing. He has been golfing. Not a lot of three putts happening. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Slow down. Ladies and gentlemen, he made the first putt. We came out and said, wow, this guy needs to sign a live.

Holy shit, this guy's a golfer. Then he missed the next three. Two of them, though, on line. Oh, yes. Just not enough juice, which means he has been golfing and has found a touch. For sure. Hasn't been on this green in a long time. But if he's able to bury this last one right here, 20 people, $500.

Here you go. Come on, Pat. We say you go. Come on, Pac. Come on, Pac. Ah, man. Got it! He got it! Come on, Pac! Let's go, Pac. Well done.

I can't see from here. Stay on business. That's right. Bingo. S-O-B. 20 people, $500. Because Pac-Man Jones steps up and delivers a putt when the people need him. Thank you for today. Boys, great work today. In the back, great work.

Thank you to Dalton Schultz. Thank you to Big Perk for joining us. AJ, great work over there in Ohio. 20 people, $500. Way to go, Pac. Come on, Pac. S-O-B. All right. for joining us AJ great work over there in Ohio 20 people all right as we get out of here and prepare for another show tomorrow it's gonna be big huge god damn tomorrow show yeah yeah people are not ready oh my bigger than those bison that's right bigger than those bison. That's right. Bigger than those bison.

That's not too hard to figure. Not 16 feet tall. 16 feet tall. At the top. No emotion. Don't talk about OJ like that. They are not naming the bison in front of the new Buffalo Bills Stadium. OJ and OJ Simpson.

OJ, Jim, and Josh. Thurman. Kidding me? We'll brainstorm some more ideas. Okay. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. OJ, Jim, and Josh Thurman. Kidding me? We'll brainstorm some more ideas. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice that might change their life. We're in this thing together.

Team on me. Cheeks. Team on me. Hey, baby cheeks. Hey, baby cheeks. Hey, baby cheeks. Cheeks, goodbye. Great vibe. Cheeks.

Hey, baby cheeks. Hey, boy cheeks. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Three. Goodbye.