The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1084 - It's A Zoo Thursday With Sal Capaccio, Mark Schlereth, Chip Kelly, Zach Ertz, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the Buffalo Bills cutting a bunch of the core pieces of their team in an attempt to get under the salary cap, as well as the Broncos releasing Pro Bowl Safety Justin Simmons as Sean Payton attempts to rebuild. Joining the progrum to take about all the moves the Bills have made, the vibes in Buffalo, as well as the everything going on with the new stadium is Buffalo Bills beat and sideline reporter, Sal Capaccio (19:09-39:36). Next, 3x Super Bowl Champion, 2x Pro Bowler, and color commentator for the NFL on FOX, Mark Schlereth joins the show to chat about the Broncos rebuild and why it was finally time for them to get rid of Russell Wilson (1:14:45-1:23:16). Next, new Offensive Coordinator of the Ohio State Buckeyes, Chip Kelly joins the show to chat about why he decided to leave his post as Head Coach of UCLA, and why he’s enjoying life now that he’s getting to actually coach (1:30:25-1:40:14). Later, Super Bowl Champion, 3x Pro Bowler, and new TE for the Washington Commanders, Zach Ertz joins the show to chat about why he’s excited to be back with Kliff Kingsbury, Jason Kelce’s retirement speech, if he knows anything about the direction Washington is going at QB, some Jim Harbaugh stories, and more (2:13:01-2:30:57). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the thunderdome on this it's a zoo thursday march 7th 2024 this sports program starts now sports are fantastic there's a lot going on in sports all around the sports world we'll be chit-chatting about all of it even a moose that wasn't field dressed properly that has punished a multiple time i did rod champion who has now got a two hour penalty because he didn't gut the moose properly in the eyes of the i did rod committee so gonna have to talk about that because there's some drama and controversy in a dog sledding race happening an hour north of Anchorage, Alaska, that has seemingly been happening for the last thousand years. Also happening in sports, business is making decisions for teams right now. Next Wednesday, 4 p.m., every single team has to be under the salary cap deadline that jumped

$25 million this upcoming season. The biggest jump in salary cap history since the salary cap has been tracked, I think 1994 is what we saw this entire thing. Now, was there a salary cap history since the salary cap has been tracked i think 1994 is what we saw this entire thing now was there a salary cap before that probably i've no idea i was seven years old but now with what the salary cap was in 1994 36 million upcoming year it's 240 55 54 yeah whatever it is the nfl has come a long way yes Yes, they have. They have come a long way. Unreal. With that being said, there is still some people who are getting axed because their cap number was way too large in the eyes of the team

who has to get underneath the salary cap by next Wednesday. Now, the Buffalo Bills made a lot of moves yesterday. They basically got all of our friends. Pretty much. A lot of them. He's got all of our friends on the team. Buffalo Bills looked at their roster and said, who has ever been on the Pat McAfee show?

We're going to cut them. Get rid of them. And that's why James Cook didn't say anything when he was on the show. James Cook came on the show and he only said like 40, 50 words for an entire conversation. Upbeat, joyful. He knew what was coming potentially. Yes, he did.

Mitch Morse, love this man. The best. One of the best appearances on our show that any person has ever had. Oh, yeah. Plugged in, dialed in. Try to stir some great personality. And an absolute dog on the field. But if you look down below, $8.5 million is,

depending upon who you listen to and who's keeping track of the contracts, that's how much money they're saving on the cap next year. The Bills are one of eight teams that are above the salary cap still, right now, at this exact moment. Jordan Poyer. I didn't get the chance to play the handpan. No.

The handpan. I wear no shoes and socks and bang on this thing. The handpan. No. The pam-pan. Yeah, the handpan. The handpan. Yeah. The cool drone. I wear no shoes and socks and bang on this thing. Yep. He's one of the most handsome guys, cool guys. His story is phenomenal. He's been a dog for the Bills for a long time. Yep.

Last year was in a free agency, was looking around, ends up going back to the Bills. It was exciting and thankful to go back to the Bills. I think he is going to give probably a very emotional thank you to Buffalo and everything that has happened if he moves on. There's going to be teams that are interested in all these guys, obviously. But Jordan Poyer, he's a good friend of the – here he is. Here's a handpan. There he is.

Crushing it. There's a handpan right there. No shoes. That's Jordan Poyer. Got a meditation room in the building. Yeah. Whatever team picks him up needs to – Jordan Poyer cleared our chakras.

He did. Live, on air. Good friend of the program. He's no longer with the Buffalo Bills, but if you look at the bottom there, that is the amount of money that they're saving. Yep. $5.7 million in salary cap.

Tredavious White, dog. $10.2 million savings. Deontay Hardy, wide receiver, $4.2 million. He had made some plays this year. Oh, yeah. Hardy made some real plays this year. People are going to want all these guys. And then Naeem Hines, obviously, with the jet ski incident that happened last offseason.

The season didn't get off to how anybody probably saw it go. They say $4.66 million. Von Miller, who at one point, I believe, and once again, these contracts are always so, you have no idea what's real and what's not real, because agents are given a number, teams are given a number, the NFL, the NFLPA, salary cap, like, we don't know what's real, what's not real with anybody's contracts, but seems to be an overall agreement. I think he had over $10 million guaranteed coming up to him next year. Wow.

So he restructures his contract down to below what his guarantee would be for next year. Like that's an insane move for a future Hall of Famer to make for sure. But we've heard Von Miller chit chat about how much respect and appreciation he has for Brandon Bean. And Brandon Bean has told us how much he appreciates Von Miller. So I assume they just handle business. Von understands the situation and does all that. That's a big team move. Like, oh, yeah yeah that's a big like team move by von milt hey hey good on you vaughn i assume there's a lot of people in the nflpa telling them you cannot you cannot do that that is not good precedent for us to set going forward that you're going to agree to less money after a year where you didn't perform your best that

you're supposed to get so they can restructure their salary cap, that that's their job. There's probably some people telling him that in the world. And Vaughn Miller said, no, I like the Buffalo Beals. I would like the Buffalo Beals to be great. I'm okay. I've made enough, and I keep it moving. I assume there's a lot of incentives for him to be able to get back and get way above that, maybe some more motivation.

Maybe he's excited about that. But that's a huge move by Vaughn to say, hey, I'm here for the team. Taylor Rapp got extended. Mitch Trubisky got signed nice and now there's conversation obviously about Josh Allen's contract being changed from a salary to a signing bonus so that they can prorate that entire number over the duration of his contract so you can cut his salary cap hit basically in half this is the salary cap gymnastics that everybody's doing that I think Tom Brady and Bill Belichick maybe have started back in the day as the move. So there's a lot going on in Buffalo.

They're not the only team, though. True. Denver Broncos just made a... Boy, oh boy. Massive, massive, massive move. I think whenever you think about these... Like with the Denver Broncos right now. Sure. They got no quarterback.

Nope. They got no all-pro safety. Right. That's a rebuild. That's a, hey, how you doing? For sure. That's 31 other teams going. Justin Simmons is available. For probably relatively cheap money if Denver's going to have to pay.

And Russell Wilson's available. For how much? Relatively cheap money because Denver is going to have to pay. And Russell Wilson's available. For how much? Relatively cheap money because Denver is going to have to pay. It's like a wild time right now. And if you're a great player on the Denver Broncos, every other team is keeping an eye on what the move is about to be made over there. So good luck to Sean Payton and the vision in which he's trying to build the team. Good luck to all these players that are now entering free agency a week before most other teams.

There are still seven other teams other than the Buffalo Bills that have to get under the salary cap. We'll be excited to watch those moves take place. But that's the time of year we're in right now. And Con Man won half of the talks at table at Boston Connor and Ty Schmidt. Con, we were just talking about before we went live. It's a beautiful time of year. You know why?

Why is that? Well, it's right around the corner, pal. Free agency, baby. And what does that mean? It means the Patriots are going to get much better, but a lot of teams, of course, are going to get much better. You look at that, and it is crazy to think that the salary cap can be manipulated,

first of all. It is very easy to get under the cap. Those numbers, they look intimidating. If you're a Chargers or Dolphins fan, like, oh no, we're $18 million. Saints were what? We can't forget the Saints were 40 80 million over the cap. It was ridiculous and they were I believe over the cap

before they made some moves but this is the time of year that I love because it is front office season. This is where we get to see hey who's making moves? Who's in the front office that's earning their keep? I feel like the Packers, that's one team that always does well no matter what. We were looking at that

dead cap number that the Broncos are dealing with. Number three right there, Aaron Rodgers. A lot of teams don't come back from that. The Colts with Matt Ryan, when they had to deal with that, they ended up with the number four pick. Obviously, the Patriots are the number three pick. I'm not bashing that whatsoever.

Packers had the third highest dead cap hit in the history of the NFL, and they go to the playoffs. So there are ways. You dotted it a bit, though. Oh, yeah, for sure. No questions. How about Goody? I dotted him, too. I dotted him very loudly.

I was like, do we know if this guy has any clue what he's doing? And then you look a year later, it's like pretty historic what this team was able to accomplish, actually. And the handoff of the baton from Brett Favre, that was a compliment. You played great football. You had the baton. That's what I'm saying. You started the race with the baton of incredible quarterback play at Green Bay like 30 years ago. So this is a compliment.

Now that that has been settled. Clear. He was reckless with that baton. He was very reckless. That's why we loved him. He was wide open with that baton. Also a compliment.

But then he handed that baton over to this hippie character. And then he would just... A little less reckless with the baton. But then he grabbed that baton sometimes and started talking into it. And you learn a lot about it. This guy

needs to get rid of the baton. Some people start saying it. Some people start saying it. Pass it. So then that baton gets passed to a guy who was dropped into one of the most uncomfortable situations. Like, just as somebody that was, we were almost directly in the middle of that entire thing. And from the beginning, Jordan, this is not Jordan Love's fault. Like, Jordan Love did not sign up for this. No.

The draft kind of happens, and then he just steps up, and he's an absolute dog. I mean, what a time for the Green Bay Packers. And congrats to Goody, seemingly, and to the Packers I mean, what a time for the Green Bay Packers. And congrats to Goody, seemingly, and to the Packers. You've got a guy for another 20 years, seemingly, with Goody. His hair, he looks young. Yes, he does. His hair flows well.

Great. So he's just going to do this for another 20 years, seemingly. And look at you guys, you're in a good spot. Yeah. I mean, this is actually very interesting because I think most Packers fans would say, like, during the the Rogers years, like you always hope that they'd be uber aggressive during free agency because it was always, hey, you know, one piece away, like any of these big marquee names would pop up and it'd be like, okay, this would be awesome. You know, if the Packers would just go out and get a guy like this and they typically never did very similar to the Steelers. It was always just build through

the draft. So now it's one of those situations where the Packers did everything they needed to do. They got much, much younger and obviously kind of expedited the rebuild window because they go to the playoffs right away with that super young roster. But you look at a couple of these guys, safety is kind of a position of need. We have all these safeties. So I don't know if they feel like they can maybe go get one of these marquee guys because they have such a young roster and they're not paying a premium price for a lot of these guys at very important positions that are getting paid a lot. So it is kind of weird as a Packers fan going into this free agency because everything kind of just seems – it's almost more –

Too hunk-a-dory. A little bit. A little bit, but it's also – they have a bunch of picks in the draft again. So it's kind of like, hey, if we could get one piece in free agency, that would be great, but, Goody, you just address the draft and you go find a couple more junkyard dogs. Hey, Goody, you go do what Goody does. Exactly.

That's an awesome thing to feel if you're in for, like, a lot of teams. By Monday, all these deals will be announced. There you go. Because they're already finished in Indianapolis, pretty much, at the combine. So the first day of tampering period is actually the last day of free agency for the first wave of free agency. All the high-end, top-end, highly sought-after free agents, their deals are probably nearing being done already. So whenever those are announced, teams can have immense hope immediately. Oh, yeah.

You bring in one big name and you think maybe this changes everything. For instance, Jerry Dulek of Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Of course. He's been around a long time. Legend in the game. Spells Jerry with a G.

That's how long he's been around. Jerry with a G. Two R's. Obviously, name's Jerry. But with a G at the front instead of a J. A little weird. Now, we're not saying this guy, as Pittsburgh people and Yinzers, we're not saying Jerry Dulac is Ichiro in the batter's box. Sure. Okay.

Not hitting everything. Everything isn't, you know what I mean? Not spraying it. There has been a couple Jerry Dulacs going for a bomb. Sure. Okay. Not hitting everything. Everything isn't, you know what I mean? Not spraying it. There has been a couple Jerry Dulacs going for a bomb. Sure. And boy. Misses big time. Yeah, we are nowhere.

Some perk strikeouts. And that's not because Jerry's just making things up. I think he's potentially misled. But he has been around Pittsburgh a long time, knows a lot of people. Florio mentioned the other day. Yeah, Florio said, like, hey, when Jerry Dulac says something, now we have to reiterate the fact that Jerry has been wrong like not a thousand percent

batting percentage, which nobody would have. But Pittsburgh guy is now saying that the Pittsburgh Steelers seemingly, this is what he's reporting, interested in Russell Wilson. Russell Wilson interested in Pittsburgh. They're going to have a meeting before free agency. That'll be before Monday.

If he's $1.2 million at quarterback, which is the league bin, he's in a free agency market now, right? Russell Wilson, free agent. He can go wherever the hell he wants, and he knows what his salary is next year. I'm making $39 million next year. That's what I'm getting paid to play quarterback at some team. He can go date anybody he wants. Good for him. I hope he enjoys it, and I hope he enjoys wants. Good for him. I hope he enjoys it.

I hope he enjoys the hell out of it. I hope he feels refreshed. I hope that whenever he hears teams that want him, confidence maybe comes back. Not that it ever seems like he lost it, but I hope it happens for him. If he was the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback over Kenny Pickett, one half of the hammer, Cowboys, Tony Diggs, what do you think the response would be to that?

And does that team win if that takes place? Well, I talked about it earlier in the week. He had 26 touchdowns and eight interceptions last year. Like, that's a really good year. Like, not these days as much, but, like, 26 and eight is, like, MVP-type numbers in the past. Not last year, obviously. I'm not saying he's an MVP or anything like that.

But the Steelers threw 24 touchdowns in the last two seasons combined. So I do believe that Russ is an absolute definite upgrade, especially with your bringing in Artie Smith in. And if you're starting an off-the-play action and starting with a run game, like I think Russ is actually like a perfect fit. Now is that a – Oh, for Pittsburgh too. Wow, yeah.

If he wins, all this stuff feels – Now listen, Russell Wilson, I want to let you know, the city of Pittsburgh is the right city to have your back with the way you operate. Okay? With the way you... If you win, they are the right city to have your back. A bunch of, you know, I don't want to say shit-talking

white trash yinzers, but yeah. Sure. So, like, oh, sorry. He's a perfect human being. Oh, we're sorry. And then immediately attacking Cleveland, probably. Okay? Then immediately going elsewhere, like, oh, sorry. He's a perfect human being. Oh, we're sorry. And then immediately attacking Cleveland probably. Oh, yeah. Okay, then immediately going elsewhere.

Like, Pittsburgh would be a good city for Russell Wilson to have on his back. Because all the chirping that takes place about Russell Wilson potentially on the internet, Yinzers will come out and be like, wait, this might happen in Denver. This isn't happening. He's our guy. He's winning games for us, okay? So you can relax. Now, if he loses, though, that'll be a quick stint.

That'll be very loud, very quick, I think. The Halloween costume Tony Diggs might have on? No, no, no. You kidding me? By October. Yeah, by October 31st, what Tony might have to dress up as on Halloween. So we're saying Pittsburgh, the city, as a, you know, a lot of talk about culture today around sports media,

which we will definitely dive into in a moment because we're right in the middle of it with our friend of the program, Dalton Schultz, coming on yesterday. But, like, Pittsburgh, the culture. If you win, it'll be amazing. If Russ goes in there and people think Kenny Pickett's an upgrade, Kenny Pickett went to Pitt, You know, he's there. Kind of how last year went with Matt Cannon, and then he gets hurt. And if Kenny Pickett plays well or shows any glimmer of hope,

and then Russell Wilson goes in and doesn't play great, it'll be loud. But if Russell Wilson goes in and wins, that is the perfect city for him. Mike Tomlin, probably perfect coach for him, because Mike Tomlin will also talk shit for Russell Wilson. He's not going to chew him out on the sideline that is not a mike tomlin move he's a player's coach i i do think it's a good fit i honestly really really do if that were to be the case and it's not us giving up on kenny or whatever but it just hasn't worked out so far whether that's the oc or kenny or whatever um but

russ has won a super bowl he had He had a statistically really good year last year and showed. That was a terrible situation that he did that in last year too. As far as when did it come out? October that they were like, hey. After the bye in October. And to do that, I think it's good. I would be happy. I think most yinzers would be happy because a lot of –

there are yinzers on the internet, but a majority are – they know what they know, and they know Russ as the Super Bowl winning quarterback. I don't think they know a lot of other stuff that's gone on. They would embrace Russ with open arms. I think so too. And listen to these conversations that are taking place. Pittsburgh Steelers maybe have Russell Wilson as quarterback, and you can see the gleam in Diggs' eyes as he's starting to cook it.

He's like, Arthur Smith has never really had, like, doesn't matter. You know, like, at the quarterback position, seemingly. Now, in Atlanta, it did matter. He ended up getting fired as head coach. But, like, Tannehill, also on the market, right? Ryan Tannehill, also on the market. And Ryan Tannehill had some great years, great football, great athlete. We get it.

But it's like, with Russell Wilson and Arthur Smith, with Nodge running, potentially, you know, Derrick Henry also on the market. Not saying we're getting the old gang back. Whoa. But I'm just saying like the thought of Arthur Smith being like, okay, so I got a guy at least that can put the ball where he needs it to put it. Like we can assume he's going to do that every time. Would I be happy if Russ was $25 million?

Probably not. Okay. Bingo. That doesn't matter. But $1.5 million? Yeah. Even $5 million. Even $10 million.

Even if there comes a bidding war where it's like, we'll pay you. It doesn't matter because nobody's going to get above $39 million. So he's getting that money anyways. Is he signing a two-year deal or a one-year deal, you think? Well, I would think that Russ would want a two-year deal. So how much money would it end up being? In the second year? Because it wouldn't be two years, two million.

Broncos are covering both years, right? They have a dead cap. I don't know if they're covering both. How much is guaranteed in the... Yeah, I thought the 39 was just the first year. Anyways, this time of year is all about salary cap gymnastics and figuring it out. That's why you'd be happy with Russell Wilson. Because he's only $1.2 million. You could bring in other pieces. Yeah, you could build it up. But Russell Wilson's a happy with Russell Wilson. He's only $1.2 million. You could bring in other pieces.

You could build it up. Russell Wilson's a free agent right now. He's doing the dating. That's why this time of year is fantastic. This time of year also brings some sad times. The end of some times. Now,

every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end, of course. But up in Buffalo, there was a lot of other some other beginning's endings just yesterday. That's right. Joining us now as we dive a little deeper, as we look into the weeds a little bit, as we try to go boots on the ground as opposed to always being the national zoomed out doofuses or something, it's time to feel the beat. Sped it up a little there. Yeah, that felt a little juicy.

This man is the host of the Extra Point Show, 10 to noon on WGR 550. Hell yeah. He's also the Bill's beat and sideline reporter, friend of the show, Paisano Saccapaccio. Hey! Sal, how are you, baby? I'm great. I missed you in Indianapolis, my brother. I was there for a while. I think you got there a little bit after me, but I was excited. Thought we could kind of meet up, do a bro hug or something like that, but that'll happen soon.

Sal, unlike you, we are not a smart professional outfit. We scheduled our break during a time that everybody that we cover is coming to our city. It was a mistake. That's on us, Sal. We appreciate you hoping to at least meet. We need to make that happen because we're incredibly appreciative of you. Let's talk about the bills, Sal.

Every one of our friends on the team except for you got cut yesterday for salary cap moves. What are your thoughts on this? Obviously, next Wednesday by 4 p.m. they have to be under the salary cap. But when you think about some of these massive names to the culture and the pillars of the team,

what are your thoughts on the decisions that Brandon Bean had to make and how do you think Buffalo Bills fans are taking them? Well, let me start with I don't think it's hyperbolic at all, guys, to say that this was a historic day in franchise history um you know i i i had people comparing yesterday to me to the day back in 2000 i think it was the day they released and one day bruce smith thurman thomas and andre reed now look i understand that those guys went to super bowls and they accomplished more as a team i get it but that's the kind of day it was for the Buffalo Bills and their fans. You're

talking about pillars and cornerstones of this organization over the last six, seven years since Sean McDermott took over. What they've accomplished are the second most winning team in the NFL since then. Obviously the Chiefs are first and the Chiefs have Lombardis. The Bills don't. So I understand it's not completely apples to apples, but it was a historic day. As far as how the fans are feeling, well, I did my morning show this morning. I was on the morning show at WGR this morning, and I asked Bills fans to basically describe it. And most of the fans actually responded in some way with, it was necessary. It was needed.

Like, nobody's happy about losing these players but the bills it came time for them to start a new iteration of them they're still trying to win with josh allen his prime and with that comes some really tough decisions it's a sad day but i also think that a lot of bills fans are really looking forward to what they may be able to do going forward to kind of reset it a little bit here well i assume uh front of the program brandon bean and the boys over at the bills at what is the bills address do they have like an address that is they're described by by the rest of the buff one bills drive okay so i'm assuming everybody at one bills drive was very happy to hear your morning show this morning where

fans were like instead of killing them not only about the bison only being 16 feet tall right but also about like because those types of moves can go two different ways with the public you know whenever you get like all those guys pretty popular i'd assume and bill's fans are very thankful for and when they've been there for as long as they've been there you know you don't want to like obviously you have to make decisions that your fans aren't going to like but you don't want to turn them off either you know like you don't want to like piss them off and make them think. So the fact that they're being sensical about it, I assume one Bill's drive is thankful for it.

Let's talk about one Bill's drive. What does this mean for the future now? So how do they replace all these incredible players? What do you think the thoughts are? Free agency is coming up. Obviously, they're not able to spend big money. Are they looking for veterans? Do you think that they're going to try to pay cheap?

Do you think, I think there's 11 drafts, I don't know, 10? I don't know how many draft picks. a lot of draft picks, I think. What are your thoughts on how they're going to go forward now, and can the team win still, you think? Well, as long as you have 17, you can win, right? I mean, I think that it's nonsense to suggest the Bills' Super Bowl window is closed. Hey, that's everywhere this morning, Sal.

That was everywhere this morning, Sal. That was everywhere. Well, I know people say that, but look, I mean, the fact is we know a couple things. Sean McDermott is going to really coach up that defense, even with all the injuries last year. Say what you will about having a defensive head coach instead of an offensive head coach and how that can kind of change the dynamic of the offense. One thing is that we know Sean McDermott is a very, very good defensive mind and coach.

He had a ton of injuries last year, and they're still one of the best defenses in the league. We also know that this is the opportunity for Brandon Bean with, and you're right, actually, Pat, they have 10, but it will be 11 once they get a comp pick from the Tremaine Edmonds losing him last year. So there you go, my man. But while I was out in Indy where I didn't see you, Pat McAfee, Brandon Bean actually did say, to me, he sounded like a guy who was much more optimistic about their salary cap situation than what we make it out to be. And obviously, he knew these moves were coming. Now, they're getting close to where they need to be. The Tredavious White move doesn't save them anything until June 1st anyway.

They're going to restructure Josh Allen, I would think. That's going to get them another probably close to $20 million. They're going to have some money to play with. Now, the question is, do they use that money? Can they go big game hunting? I don't think so. They will look for some bargains, but I do think there's room to get a guy who maybe they can say, look, we'll put some void years on it. We'll spread the cap out. We really need you. But man, those 11 draft picks are going to have, Pat, they have never been shy about trading around and even moving up. And I wonder if this is the year where the Bills say, heck with it, I'm going to go and move up and get the wide receiver we want.

They've been talking a lot about explosive plays, adding that to the offense, and on top of that, they met with more wide receivers at the NFL Combine than any team met with wide receivers. Mad Mel told him that. When I heard Mad Mel talking to Brandon Bean, that was one of the things he was speaking directly at him, not letting Brandon Bean talk about. Going and moving one of the 11 draft picks, feel good about that.

Nailed it. To move up is good. That's a lot of ammo to make a move in the draft. You talk about Josh Allen restructuring for $20 million. How about Von Miller restructuring? Do you think the Buffalo Bills fans realize that I think he was supposed to get more guaranteed money next year than the new restructured deal that he agreed

to? So normally these things are turned into signing bonuses and you're not really losing out on money. And the way it was initially reported was like restructures his contract for the good of the team. What a hero here. When really you're just getting money that you're supposed to get over the next 12 months on one day.

And then it's able to be spread out over the next four years. Von Miller actually takes guaranteed pay cut here to restructure his deal that a lot of people thought was huge. I think immediately upon being announced, whenever you went to Buffalo, do the Buffalo Bills fans realize that you think that he did that? And what do you think that means about Brandon being in Vaughn Miller's relationship in this entire thing? Yeah, we actually had some calls and tweets come in today that said, hey, I know that Bills fans are kind of, you know, down on Vaughn and you didn't have a productive year.

But man, kudos to him for doing this because he did. He took a straight pay cut, it seems like here, guys. I mean, he he took the guaranteed money and said, okay, well, a lot of that I can earn back in incentives. But if I'm going to do that, then we're going to be better as a team. And we're obviously going to accomplish a lot. I wonder, and I don't know this, I wonder if Brandon Bean went to Von Miller and said, look, if you don't do this, we might have to release you. And then Von said, coming off the injuries, the fact that he's his age, would he even get that much money on the open market? I don't know. But the bottom bottom line is he did take a pay cut it's going to save them about eight million dollars on the

salary cap this year but he's going to have the chance to earn that back in incentives and as far as their relationship as you guys know von wants to be a general manager in the nfl he has made that very clear to us i can only imagine the conversation of brandon bean going to him and going hey von want to be a general? You got to have these kinds of conversations with guys like you sometimes. This is what happens. Well, yeah, well, not bad leverage, too, if you're a GM and you're Vaughn Miller

trying to negotiate somebody's deal and say, when I was at my end of my head. Yeah, true. Like, you know, I already made enough money. Look at this. Just like you have. I have. Now it's time to go on, you know,

for the good of the team so we can build. That's not bad leverage later, you know, if that is the move in that entire thing. Buffalo Bills are going to look different next year. How different, though, not only with those mentioned. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Sal, very happy to hear that people called into your show about Von Miller because the only thing I see on there is how much Buffalo hates him.

So just to know that there are callers supporting him still is great news. Dowdy still wants to be a GM after yesterday in Buffalo. But some of the guys that, you know, explosive plays. You're saying those conversations would suck if you're a GM. I'm saying Vaughn's probably looking around like oh my god, I love these guys. Brandon Bean loves these guys

and he has to tell them all to go to hell? I mean that is real to think about how miserable of a day yesterday probably was for that one Bills draft. Big one. One Bills drive yesterday. Especially how good the vibes are at all times. Seemingly. Yeah, seemingly.

Every time we've called it. Pending cryptic tweets. But looking forward, you mentioned... Pending. Pending. You mentioned explosive plays. You know, Stephon Diggs, he's one of those guys that can produce them. And then obviously Gabe Davis, his time during that last game as he left the field wasn't

as ceremonious, if you will, as I think everybody thought it would be. Do you think there's a chance that the Bills bring him back? You mentioned moving up in the draft as a possibility, but do you think they will look to try and keep a guy like that or because the price that he'll probably warrant in free agency, he won't be coming back to Buffalo? I do think that there's a chance. I do think the Bills would like to bring Gabe back, but they're going to have a value on him. I think that he'll

get more in the open market, and Gabe knows that, and he's earned that right, as everybody likes to say, and good for him if he gets that. But I will tell you guys, Gabe Davis loves Buffalo. He was a team captain at 24, 25 years old, I think it was, last year. He's a guy that has roots here now. I think he'd like to stay, so he might have to weigh what those options are as far as how much money. But I don't know if the Bills can come close to what other teams are going to be willing to offer because I think the Bills are going to be looking to kind of have a little bit of something different. But Gabe as a player, Gabe, what he means to this organization, Gabe's DNA, the Bills love him. I think they would absolutely take him back if the price was right.

But you see Mike Evans getting re-signed, and you seeael pitman and the tag and t higgins you know that wide receiver market is dwindling as far as names so you got to move gabe up there a little bit more and i wonder what his market holds that being said brandon bean said he still believes stefan diggs is a number one wide receiver he didn't say we got to get more weapons for josh allen he said we got to get more weapons around him so teams don't take him away as much. So I think that's a really big indicator that they're looking for somebody who can take the top off a little more, a little more explosive plays. They talked about rack. Not that they don't think Gabe is a good player. I think they really do. I don't know if that's quite the skill set. So it would have to really be the kind

of deal that would be friendly for the Bills. I think Gabe would be very open to coming back and the Bills, but I just don't see how that fits money-wise. He had an 80 or 90 or what was it? Two years ago. Pittsburgh two years ago, yeah. We said we would donate if it was 75.

Think about how hard it is to have a 75-yard play. Because where the team has to be, you're only going to have one or two plays there. It was actually a 98-yarder that day. They were at the two-yard line. There it is. That's the thing about Gabe. You remember that play, but he's not a burner, but he separates downfield.

He's a tough guy to analyze. He's really near the top of the league in yards per catch, but it's not because he just takes the top off and runs straight line speed. He's a bigger guy. He gets a little separation. There's some inconsistencies in catching. Oh, there it is. Okay. Well, everybody wants more weapons these days.

Always. The only issue with the wide receiver market is, obviously, talking about franchise tag and stuff like that, these younger wide receivers are coming into the league being better than ever before. These young wide receivers from 7-on-7 in high school and 1-on-1s on the internet,

their catch radiuses are absurd and contested catches like they love like they love like that is something that this generation is like almost been training for all the way through high school through the content era in my eyes i think that has benefited it but like young wide receivers and then like the top end wide receivers are going to be the ones and i say i think i think you're so right because i've said on my show if you if you go to a random pop warner game on saturday high school game on friday night all these seven on state all these spread offenses these teams are running but when we were growing up running back was the cool spot that's where all the athletes played now it's wide receiver and now they have a good you know 10 15 years of

all these rules in the nfl and honestly i think wide receiver is almost like the new quarterback where you got to get these guys on rookie contracts. The market is exploding so much. And now if you can get two or three of them on your team, it's going to really help you build around that. Yeah, we think that the wide receiver market is going to go, you have your rookie contract to prove whether or not you're a guy.

If you're a guy, you're going to get paid absurd. Like you're going to get paid quarterback type money. If you're not a guy, it's going to be tough because like the young guys are coming in and it's gonna be the same exact thing uh digs dropped in my ear while you were talking there about uh the water what's his last name khalil shakur yeah he came out of nowhere he was everywhere seemingly there for like a good four-week stretch he was kind of everything young guy uh ty schmidt has a question for you sal yeah sal speaking of uh ste Diggs, it seems like every offseason, in terms of the cryptic tweets and all that kind of stuff, whether it's real or

created, everyone always kind of wants to create some big problem between him and the Bills. A couple years ago, to your point about them bringing in other talent around him so teams can't take him away, it was kind of the hey you know he's not getting the ball enough he wants to be you know after the playoff game when he he went crazy and had and you know dismissed the media and all that kind of stuff um is everything good with in terms of the relationship between the bills and stefan diggs right now because it is kind of that time every year you can you know set your watch to it's like okay what kind of new news is going to come out about stefan diggs being unhappy in buffalo well it seems like it because there

hasn't been any cryptic tweets yet that we know of right but who knows uh that could wind up happening but what did happen was he went on uh k adams with k adams at the super bowl and he talked about how well you know you never know i'm ready for anything whatever happens and you know that always kind of opens the door for what do you mean, whatever happens? Are you not committed? And I think just from being around Stefan over the last few years, Stefan knows this is a business. He knows that any moment, look what happened yesterday, guys. Guys like Mitch Morris, Jordan Poyer, Notre Davies White, at any moment, this is a guy that got traded once in his career. So I just think he approaches every day thinking anything can happen in my career. But as far as the relationship, we haven't had

any of that stuff happen. I will tell you, Stefan Diggs and Josh Allen are very good friends. They know that they're very good for each other. They're friends off the field, but there's always going to be that speculation because Stefan Diggs never comes out and ends the speculation directly because I think he just always knows that anything can happen in this league and I don't want to be painted

into a corner and I got to be ready for anything to happen. But as far as the bills and possibly what could happen in the future with him and his contract, there's really nothing they can do. I mean, even though you see all these moves, that would be a massive, massive dead cap hit that they're not willing to take on for their No. 1 wide receiver. And I believe Brandon Bean when he says that he still believes he's the No. 1 wide receiver and he's got to get him a little bit of help. People in the NFL are taking $85 million in dead cap hits these days.

I know. That's amazing. That's what people are doing these days. They're saying, you know what? Yeah, I'll pay $85 million and get this guy out of my face. Why not? Yeah, I'm done with it. Whatever.

I am done with it. Let's move along. It's a crazy time in the NFL right now. As the salary cap continues to grow, people are still, you know, kind of suffering from the consequences of spending and guys are getting cut. But let's transition away from the team itself and let's talk about what surrounds it. Tom Diggs has a question for you, Sal.

Yeah, Sal. Yep. In our America right now, okay, Bill Belichick, coach of, you know, greatest dynasty of all time, has to go to college football camps to be a coach right now. Something to think about there. Courtstorming. Kids are going to federal prison for courtstorming right now.

I'm watching PBR, that's professional bull riding, and these kids are wearing helmets. That's right. And then yesterday I hear that the Buffalo Bison outside the new stadium are only going to be 16 feet tall. What is happening in our America right now, Sal? Shouldn't those Bison

be closer to 30, 40, 50 feet tall? What's the reaction in Buffalo to the Bison right now? All right. Let me start with, first of all, I stormed the court at what was the Carrier Dome one time. That baby! Arrest him!

Arrest him now! I'm a court stormer. I tell my 10-year-old son, one day I want you to storm a court and FaceTime me and let me know about it. I'm going to be right there with you, buddy, okay? So I'm okay with that. Enjoy the experience. All right. Now, I actually went to what we call the stadium experience here in Buffalo,

which is where you saw some of these videos coming out. I had a personal tour of what's happening here to show everybody about the new stadium, which is going to be phenomenal. Personal tour! Like that. Salcapaccio! The Buffalonian, brother! Yeah, I don't know much about

bull riding, but I can tell you about Bisons. Look, they're going to be big no matter what. They're still actually going through the process of it. The way it was kind of explained to us, the bigger you get, the less detail you can have, the more it's like not seeing the forest through the trees. That does make sense. Guys, they want to have this thing as like a destination. People can go take pictures.

You want to have something that you can actually be able to do that with. But at the end of the day, know that people want these the most incredible bisons ever outside the stadium and i get it but holy cow the main attraction is going to be a beautiful new stadium in orchard park new york in two years and i don't think anybody's going to care much about the bisons once they see what this stadium is going to be because i got a chance to see it and it's amazing okay valid because we can't see that stadium yet and then when so far i can't right everybody was like damn okay it's like that's a very nice thing so we now granted the idea not to put a roof on sofi stupid but have like an open canopy we got a

really decorative tarp that hangs over top of this thing bingo now if there's any lighting though shut it down done shut it down so that was certainly something we learned, like, maybe a year or two after SoFi rolled out because we thought this is the perfect setup. So we don't have that moment with the Buffalo Bills in their stadium. What we do have is the hope that these bison are just going to be just huge. I think 16 feet is massive. And you said you want people to take pictures with these things. What we're worried about, just because we are assholes, immediately, first thought is,

you know how many drunks are going to be climbing to the top of these things and jumping on top of them because they are? 16 feet? Are they going to? And it is up on a little radio. So it might be like 20 feet at the top of that whole thing. Maybe it's getting bigger by the moment here. feet at the top of that whole thing. Maybe it's getting bigger by the moment here, but is there a worry that Bills Mafia is going to be doing shooting star presses off the top of these things through tables in Buffalo? And I assume they're going to address that. Listen, I'm sure

they're going to have plenty of security there, guys, for sure, because we all know what happens at Bills Games and tailgating and Bills Mafia. Let me tell you, though, it's really interesting you talk about that because I heard for years, oh, they're going to want to get rid of tailgating and Bill's Mafia. Let me tell you, though, it's really interesting you talk about that because I heard for years, oh, they're going to want to get rid of tailgating. They're going to want to just get people there and not do all the shenanigans and go inside and buy their beer. We love tailgating here so much in Buffalo. This new stadium is actually going

to have bigger parking lot spaces with room to put a tent behind your car to tailgate more. Oh my God, that's the story! Hey, that's the story. Perfect. Hey, that's the story. 16, 20-foot bison. Bravo.

Old news. Yep. Actually designing parking spots to be bigger so that people can show up earlier and stay later to celebrate the bills. Hey, that's good shit. That's genius. That's well done. That is.

We respect that. Yeah, we do. Touché. Wow, that should have been the headline. If we get the Bison, yeah, we got bigger parking spots. Hey, Sal, thank you for making today better for us, pal. We appreciate that. You got it, guys.

Anytime. You know I love being on with you. Next time, we'll catch up for sure, whether it's Indy or somewhere else, my man. Okay, you know what? We'll come out to Buffalo, brother. Yep. Yeah. Check out those parking spots.

I love it. Yeah, we will check out these parking spots. You have to. You know what? Mitt's actually love it. We will check out these parking spots. You know what? Mitt's actually going to live in a tent in the parking spot. All season long. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, talk about you. That's the news.

Revolutionizing tailgating. Everybody else is trying to get smaller so they can charge more people for spots. If you happen to drive a truck or an SUV, it's like, it is very, especially if you've got a baby. Oh, yeah. It's a nightmare. But in a car seat, you've got to get car seat out. No way.

That's a real problem. Yeah. And I thought I was saving the world when I got my car. Remember? Yeah, of course. And then a lot of stuff came out of it. Well, I mean, certainly seems like for every action, there's an equal and opposite reaction in everything.

Sure. Even opinions and thoughts and savings of the world. Right. I got the big Hummer EV because it looked cool and it could drive sideways. Exactly. And I was saving the world. And I was saving the world. You were.

Yeah. I was saving the entire world. Yep. No more gas. Boy, were we wrong. Well, there's certainly been some things, I guess, that have come out and... Oh, there's been more.

I will still grandstand. There's more things that have come out, but I will continue to grandstand and I'll save the entire planet. I'm sorry, Captain Earth, okay? I don't know what to tell you guys. But, like, it's big. So parking places is impossible.

It is actually. And then got McKenzie in car seat or whatever. It's like, so you've got to open it to get that out. Because the amount of times I've had to do the. Need three spots pretty much. The amount of times, three. That would be a big one. I'm saying your car.

Yes. Like legit. I am so sick of doing this one here. The hold the door door ding in someone else's car trying not to yeah exactly i am trying us because i think that is like the rudest thing of all time especially if you just keep it moving on tell them so i'm the amount of times i'm doing this number here yep and then like falling out pretty much and then shutting it oh it's impossible and it's like why'd you do Oh, they did that so they can just shove a thousand

more spots in here. Yeah. Cash. It's like this thing definitely got smaller. Like this is certainly not how this has always been. There's no way this is how big parking spots have always been as cars are getting bigger. My car's saving the earth big, okay? I don't even know. Again, we should be easy on saving the earth, okay?

That's what I was told. Your car is helping with the emission of fossil fuels. Yeah, but I was told I was saving the earth okay your car is helping with the emission of fossil fuels yeah but i was told i was saving here forget the classification that you're putting it i'm just saying i was told i was saving the earth so i was i bought it strictly so i could show up somewhere and tell nick maraldo that i'm saving the earth that is literally the only reason why i got it well people say there's an overpopulation problem so you you're helping out there, too. All the people minding the batteries. Okay, alright. That's a good point, too.

Anyways, that was disgusting. We also get spoiled with our parking. I mean, we have this massive 500 car parking lot out here, and we got 12 cars, so you can kind of just... It's beautiful. You pull in and... I do appreciate the fact that

dirty since day one has been like where is there not a spot and i'm gonna make my like day one and it is it has been sweet yeah i saw that the other day i pull my thing right up i mean i'm about to run i'm a four-wheeling a little bit yeah well how else you can use the crab lock feature bingo you see that thing i turn turn that thing. I feel so cool. Can never use it anywhere else. Not as cool as you would have thought. Like when I bought that 3D TV. Oh yeah. That was the best thing ever. I walked into Best Buy on what we'll

say was about 90 milligrams of smoke. Okay. Back in the day, it wasn't being measured that way. The whole thing. I walk in there, the first thing they have right in front of you, the thing you're not supposed to buy, the thing that they're trying to get you to buy. Exactly.

It's this brand new 3D TV. They strapped me into these things and I was like, what's the biggest one you got? Like $8,000 or something. Oh, yeah. Bring it out. Bring it out here now. Never expected to sell that thing. Ever.

And not one time. No. No. $7,400 or something like that. Yep. Give it to me. Need it. Yep.

Absolutely need it. Aquatic vehicle. There's like four movies that are 3D. Yep. You watch those each one time and one of them sucks. Yep. And then you're done. There's really nothing else.

Lose the glasses second weekend. Break them. Potentially accidentally sit on them. That's like a newer version of them. There's really nothing else. Lose the glasses second weekend. Break them. Potentially accidentally sit on them. That's like a newer version of them. That's a newer version. They used to be like... Oh, yeah. Like the paper ones?

It's like I'm putting on a virtual reality kit to watch the TV pretty much. It was the biggest waste of money of all time. Like, you're not supposed to do that. No. Yeah, there's a lot of dumb shit, but the Buffalo Bill is making those spots bigger. I mean, phenomenally smart. I appreciate that. You know, and there's a lot of dumb shit, but the Buffalo Bill is making those spots bigger. I mean, phenomenally smart. I appreciate

that. You know, and I don't want to get into, and I don't know enough about anybody's politics to dive into it. Remember the governor opened up the bars earlier whenever they were playing in Buffalo. Remember that? Yeah. That city, like, they like football. Like, they love football. They appreciate

football. And I think that also feeds into the fact that their response has been like, yeah, this is necessary. Not a lot of cities would have that response, I don't think, Tone Diggs. No, I think the blue-collar football cities would. You think Pittsburgh would respond that way with that? Maybe, right? With the open up the bars?

No, no, I'm talking about the cuts of the teams, of the players. Oh, yeah, I mean, they, it's okay. So they haven't cut the pillars that the Bills did, but they've made cuts this year that the fans were super, super happy about. I mean, there's been times in the past where guys have been cut. It depends. It would be a 50-50 thing, I think, today as far as like— It's whether or not you trust the organization, right?

I think it's an organization trust meter. Steelers and Steelers fans highly trust the organization. Okay, so they'll do that. Buffalo seems like that's the case. I would assume Green fans highly trust the organization. So they'll do that. Buffalo seems like that's the case. I would assume Green Bay now trusts the organization. When Bill is running it for however long it was, trust the organization. He would cut great players.

He would get rid of Hall of Famers. He would get rid of pillars of community. Bill Belichick would do that on a very regular basis. Young guys too who would be pillars if they stayed. And I think in the gm football world they're all like if i did that i would get i would get run out of town it's like well that guy has won super bowl every other year pretty much for the last decade and a half so you can if you can do that go ahead and do it it's like fans patriots fans are just like yup and everybody else in the nfl was almost like

bill knows yeah bill knows what he's doing. It feels like that's how Bill's fans are viewing Brandon Bean and team. They should feel very good about that. I think just from experience, I think fans get more upset when you hold on to guys too long versus cutting them, you know, whether it's a year or so earlier. I feel like fans actually get more upset when they hold on to guys too long. The whole window is closed for the Bills thing, I think

a window is closed for the Bills. I don't think the window is closed. I think a window with that team is closed, but you still have Josh Allen, so I don't think the window is closed. Okay, let's move away from the Buffalo Bills. Hey, in Sao Capaccio, we love you. This Jerry Dulac article in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

linking the Russell Wilson-Pittsburgh Steelers thing. Once again, because people might only see this clip and they might just have tuned in, potentially, wherever you are. Jerry Dulac has been covering the Pittsburgh Steelers for a long time in Pittsburgh. From Pittsburgh, me. Tony Diggs from Pittsburgh. Big Nick back there is from Pittsburgh.

So we understand Jerry Dulac in the Post-Gazette and everything like that. Been around. And the Steelers, obviously are huge in Pittsburgh. Jerry Dulac has connections. He has not been right 100% of the time. He has been wrong before, so there's not necessarily a guarantee. But he was saying

that the Pittsburgh Steelers and Russell Wilson have showed a lot of interest in each other. they're actually going to meet before free agency opens up now mike tomlin takes a lot of trips goes to every workout every pro day every combine every dinner he's very involved with a lot of things as obviously omar khan who they call the khan artist who gets deals done in a fashion that benefits pittsburgh steelers sometime the new gm so it's like are they just doing their due diligence or is their actual real interest, which Jerry Dulac is reporting, of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, that Russell Wilson also

interested. Then he released an article. He said, article coming soon. In article in Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Jerry Dulac has been covering the Steelers for a long time. He says, hold the phone. Don't look now. Russell, does Russell Wilson own Accrisher? Yep.

And Pittsburgh is Accrisher. Russell Wilson's on a board with Accrisher people? Uh-huh. Russell Wilson is attached from a very business standpoint to the people of Accrisher. Is that right? Yeah, this is a different company, but it's a company that is tied to, yeah, it's Evolution Advisors, but it is tied to Accrisher. There's a paragraph that I sent in from the article about it. But, yeah, so Russ is basically a stealer is what I'm reading for here.

Because he's in business with Accrisher. I mean, if you're just going to connect the dots. He also says in this article that Russ has already talked to one other team as well. That is out there, but I mean... That would be good business for Russell Wilson in his own state. I'm not saying he owns Accrisher,

but it sounds like he does high-end business with the Accrisher people. Thomas Tull right there, also on that board, is a minority owner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. That guy doesn't have skill. Russell Westbrook, though. He ain't got of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, that guy doesn't have skill. Russell Westbrook, though. He ain't got nothing with the Steelers. Russ might come play.

I mean, wasn't the whole thing with Russ he doesn't want to compete? I get they're not punting on him. He owns the stadium. Absolutely. He does. He owns the stadium. If they bring him in, he's got to catch a bottle at his house. Yeah, there's not.

He owns the stadium. Yeah, okay. Kind of a done deal. Absolutely. We don't know if that There's no way. Honestly, this is the problem with this time of year. Yeah, we're doing it. I'm so sick of us already. Did you hear what we just did? I saw one picture on my phone

and go, hold on. Wait a minute. Yeah? And now we automatically got to assume that it's going to happen because everything could potentially happen. Right now, Russell Wilson could be the Pittsburgh Steelers starting quarterback next year. Now, if you already took a team date somewhere else already,

I don't know where it could be. We could assume maybe Tampa, Atlanta, Minnesota, New England, Las Vegas. Washington. Could be Washington. Commanders just did something. Oh, he signed Zach Ertz. He'll be on the show today. Oh, nice. Could be Washington. Commanders just did something. Oh, he signed Zach Ertz. He'll be on the show today. Oh, nice.

Yeah, yeah. Zach Ertz will be on the show today. 2-15 Eastern Standard Time. Yeah, could be so many different places that he's going to. And also, also, could be crap. Could be crap. Could be total crap. 50-50.

Probably more than that shot that it's crap. There's a chance that it's a Ty Schmidt. Crap, yeah. Towed red crap. Could be total crap. 50-50. Probably more than that shot that it's crap. There's a chance that it's a Ty Schmidt. Crap. Toad Red Crap. Well, that's 100%. Because that could come from somebody who could know. Like it could be a member of Team 3. In the know.

In the know. At the time. Could be. Whenever they filter this information to Jerry or however Jerry ends up getting to it. And he's, hey, he will. He's getting this from somebody that he believes is good. Been around a long time. You can run out of the business if you

make shit up that is not right. Actually, I don't know nowadays. Huh? Yeah, they kind of just let you. No, Post Gazette ain't. No, it ain't. Pittsburgh Post Gazette. They are not going to let you do that. But on the internet, people's the PG or the trip.

But on the internet, people get things wrong all the time. The modern day now, and this leads to a good little transition. Welcome professional hosting. Nice. Thank you. With the internet. One person says something of kind of credibility. And then boom, it's taken and then spun in how they see or read it, how they understood it, which might not be accurate. It was just kind of they're taking it, and then it's completely gone.

And then whenever it gets reported or caught on to maybe by somebody that has a big microphone, it's already been at this, you know, it's already all the way over here when it started over here. Like this Dalton Schultz thing is wild. Yes. Absurd. It is wild, you know, and I feel bad about it because I was very thankful that Dalton Schultz came on the program. That was his first time on the program. Now, he's a gamer nerd.

Oh, yeah. Like through and through. This guy's building computers. He's got a whole setup. And I think he knows the program. Like, I'm very appreciative of that. Gave us a great conversation. Yeah, fantastic. I think I'm going to try to play a video game again. What's a game that he might not be great at that I can maybe be competitive because I suck at all videos?

Spyro. I think 2K golf. That levels the playing field. The golf one. Yeah. Because I'm not bad at the golf one. Nope. Because you don't have to do much.

You've got to go here and then boom. And then here. Boom. That you don't have to do much. You got to go here and then boom. And then here, boom. That's all you got to do. Exactly. Okay, so that's what we do. Oculus 2. Yeah, well, is that video games? I don't know.

I would count it. Oh, yeah, that's video games for sure. He said he did some design for VR, so he respects it. Yeah, but he built a computer, so I think he's doing those types of games. Anybody can do that shit these days. Yeah, Bill did. Bill's a talent. I'm worried about Bill.

Why are you worried about Bill? He's more jacked than ever. He told me earlier today, he said, you know, a company sent us like 14 T-bones, three grilled chicken breasts, and a couple of this. I'm like, I did not know that. He goes, oh, they're in here. You want to.

Can I have them? Do you want? Can I have them? I think he's only eating protein right now. That's why he drank, what was it, four? There's no reason to drink four muscle milks in one morning. Dude, he is. He is.

Well, he's got the dip set up in his office. He's just cranking them out right now. When Bill dips, he dips, we dip. That entire thing. He's becoming a monster. Anyways, Bill has built a computer. Dalton Schultz has built a computer. He's a video gamer. First time on the show, we enjoyed chatting with him.

He kind of got comfortable towards the end. We could tell with the way he was speaking and how he was saying his things. It was cool. It was nice. It was like, we like this guy. Good beard. He described being a Dallas Cowboy he was saying his things and we uh it was cool it was nice it was like we like this guy good beard great player so he described being a Dallas Cowboy you know and obviously we all know it's different being a Dallas Cowboy than any other team but he talked about being a Dallas Cowboy and he talked about being in the gym he talked about how there's a one-way mirror with people that pay to kind of

do tours it's a zoo he said pretty much the way he was describing is like he felt like a zoo animal is how I took it whenever he said it in the moment. But when they described the Dallas Cowboys organization, they call it the entire organization a zoo as opposed to, I think, what he was referring to, a zoo animal. Yeah, people tapping on the glass. Trying to get your attention.

Like when you go to the Indianapolis Zoo and you see an orangutan and you try to make eye contact and then it looks at you and it says, get me out of here. Please help me. Please get me out. Anyways, here's what Dalton showed you yesterday and what he said about the Dallas Cowboys,

and I think he got taken out of context a bit by a lot of people. You enjoyed your time in Dallas. I'm not going to say that. But, like, when you get to Houston, is it vastly different than your time in Dallas whenever you're talking about all the off the field? Is it? Is that real?

Yeah. No, that was one of the first things that kind of stuck out to me in Dallas whenever you're talking about all the off the field is it is that real yeah no it's that was one of the first things that kind of stuck out to me is like it feels like much more I don't want to say college because it's not but like the focus is just football you know what I mean and going back and like telling some people like how kind of being around the Cowboys like practice facility and you know know, game day, describing some of the interactions and stuff that you see on a day-to-day basis, like, surprised a lot of people.

They're like, holy crap, like, that actually happens, like, at a practice facility? And, like, you know, it's just you think it's normal, and then you come to a place like this. Like what? Like what? Like what? You don't have to out anything, but, like, what are you— No, dude, it's just, like, there's people going on tours um while you're listening in the weight room and they've got like a one-way they've got a one-way mirror for people to like look at like it's literally it's a zoo dude there's people tapping on the glass like trying to get people's attention as they're doing you know power cleans or whatnot and it's just it's different and i mean that's the brand that

they've built that's you know that's what jerry jones likes that's the way they run things and there's nothing wrong so i think what he was saying is like that particular situation yes right but they were using it as like the entire dallas cowboys the buildings is due yeah i don't i would just like to clear up for dalton even though he did not ask us to do this i'm doing this because i kind of feel bad that he's kind of got tossed into this i don't think dalton was burying the entire work. I think he was talking about that particular situation right there. And he said he enjoyed his time and everything like that. And so I just felt bad that it started happening. But the Dallas Cowboys culture is certainly something we're learning a lot about.

And I did not expect to hear that random people can walk by your workout. Like those workouts get pretty – there's people, you know, like – Get after it. You're not necessarily in like there's people, you know, like. They're after it. You're not necessarily in, like, your best form, you know. You're, like, got cut off, like, there you got to probably be, I'm putting on a show almost, you feel like. That's an interesting, you got to be a cowboy, I think. If you're not, like, a Dallas Cowboy type, where, like, hey, you're on display in certain different times where you're not other places. Like, I don't think it's going to work out.

Dalton didn't say it didn't work out for him, obviously. He ends up with the Houston Texans afterwards, has a 36-meter. He's a good player. And a lot of people were saying, he's saying that because Ferguson's good. It's like, I don't think, I didn't get that sense at all. He was just describing his life. So I just wanted to kind of clarify that from our perspective. Yeah, and from everything we've heard, that's what you expect with the Cowboys,

with the practice facility, anyone can buy those. We always used to say, well, could theagles buy one of these boxes and that's just that's the way it is with the cowboys amazing i believe sports are happening right now so i think we're only live on youtube and espn plus so welcome fucking back. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Get him out. Get him out now. The Talks at Table is here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer Cowboys ton Diggs

is here. And joining us live from Manatee, Ohio is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Hell yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who booked Chip Kelly to come on our show today.

In about 28 minutes from now, A.J. Hall. Yeah. What's up? What kind of sports are happening over there on ESPN and ESPN2? All right, we've got spring training on ESPN. Need to see it. Who's got the hot back going into the 175-game season? 62.

Okay, who's got it going in there? All good. Cool. I can't wait to watch. It's in the background. The guy that's doing the commentating is electrifying. What's his name, the one on the right? Hair like this?

Orange hair? No. Talking about Boog Shambi? No. Eduardo Perez? No. It's... Eduardo Perez? No. Carl Ravish? Yeah, Carl Ravish.

Carl Ravish. Electrify. So I'm watching him right now. We're going to see it. And then on ESPN2, it's... It's F1. No, that's not a sport. What a fucking joke.

It doesn't matter. I didn't know they played that on ESPN. No, me neither. They're finishing up their race. Of course, they're racing. Oh, nice. Are they racing or are they doing the fucking time bullshit that no one gives a shit about? Maybe, I would assume in a lot of the F1 people's eyes.

You know, just by my conversation with Darius. Of course. Because he's a big F1 fan. Asshole. They think we're not intelligent enough to understand F1. We do understand. You got one guy that wins and everybody else loses. That's what you guys have. We got a race

here. Indianapolis 500. We're there four wide sometimes. Four wide sometimes. You guys are stacked one by one going through these tiny little streets. It's a fucking time trial. We're bored as hell. Give me a break.

This is it. Where's the other cars? They're not on the track because it's not a fucking time trial. We're bored as hell. Give me a break. We're bored. This is it? Where's the other cars? It's a time trial. They're not on the track because it's not a fucking race. It's a stupid. So time trials happen in IndyCar and everything else, too, to see. But they're time trials. They're not the main event, though. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, but this is what the races look like, too, though. That's the thing. Like, the races look like this as well. I assume middle, back of the pack, there's some action at some of these races somewhere. You would think. But every race that I've turned on, it's been a one man show. What's his name? Verstappen. Max Verstappen.

And Sir Louis Hamilton. He's looking for a new team. Yeah, he's no more. And we're not watching for the back, by the way. Any race you watch, you're watching for the fucking front. Well, that's the TV. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, come on.

This is so dumb. They're nice cars. Hey, very good cars. They are nice. Very nice. You take them down in a drag strip here in Brownsburg, probably get cooked by a funny car or two. But you do have nice cars. I want to let you know.

Those funny cars, too. Those engines were made, you know, obviously there's incredibly intelligent engineers. But also there's just some guy who lives on a massive farm. Turning wrench. In Indiana. Yeah. Who's turning wrench. Who also gets a, you know, we got like whatever, 6,000 horsepower in this engine.

Yep. And he only got into it because he was trying to beat Ned, who was building his own. A couple acres over. Yeah, down there. And now they got cars that are just going quarter mile and whatever it is. So your F1 cars would be cute in that race. That would be fun to do it. But just watching them go one by one and the same guy win every time,

it's not entertaining. You need Kyle Busch over there. You need Connor Daly in F1. You know what I mean? Kyle Larson. Kyle Larson might be the greatest driver of all time. Has to be. Legitimately has to be.

A lot of practice though. A lot of virtual practice though. They're all getting a lot of reps nowadays with modern technology. Kyle Larson's doing a lot of this. A lot of this. Yeah, it's prime.

It's hard to get your hands on prime, too, from what I've been told. Impossible, they say. Logan Paul, good for him. He's got a new flavor. Remember, he came on our program whenever he was talking about prime, and he was like, you know how all of us internet influencers are trying to find something, something, something? He's like, this is the yeah pat this is the one he was right he was right what's the new flavor can't win a wrestling match whoa what he's united states champion he lost

the elimination chamber what do you expect from that thing's unpredictable well he's a dirty cheap shot artist and randy orton should have won that match well he did he did anywhere but drew mcintyre got the win. So Logan Paul helped out Drew McIntyre, which I think you all... He's a Scottish warrior. Drew McIntyre, Seth freaking Rollins, certainly going to go at it at WrestleMania. But anyways, those sports are happening.

So we are on YouTube and ESPN+. Our conversation in the first hour was with Sal Capaccio, talking about all the Buffalo Bills moves that were made just yesterday about six days away from the salary cap kind of deadline for all these teams. The Buffalo Bills are one of eight teams that are currently still over the salary cap. A couple other teams were a little bit over, made some moves to get under. This is obviously Sal Capaccio, who covers the Buffalo Bills,

calling it a historic day in the Buffalo Bills franchise. They cut a lot of our friends, AJ, but this is kind of what this season's all about. Yeah, I mean, don't you think they had to have some kind of idea that this was coming for most of these players? Like, when you see, like, these guys are way over the cap. Players aren't dumb. Players understand teams have to make decisions, and teams don't like to do this. But, yeah, stuff has to happen. You're over the cap. You got to find those guys. Like, you know, it sucks for guys like jordan poyer obviously i mean these are all really good players too that's the other thing that people don't realize these are going to be valuable assets to other teams yeah i i think in the thought that you know

poyer front of the program dog leader stud like look at him driving his feet still well just remember the stories. And I saw a tweet that was talking about his 2023 year that I thought they were talking about this most recent year. But going through who Jordan is for that Buffalo Bills team and how long he was there. I remember he and Hyder considered these two came in together to the Buffalo Bills. They were a tag team together.

He'd been around there for a long, long time. Now, never in my Super Bowl. So that's how people will talk about it. But you talk about he becomes all pro-po out there. One year he was overlooked and an underdog. Had a historic season. The next year he was all pro-po. It's like he and Buffalo grew together.

So for now, for him to be on the streets alongside the rest of the safeties that are currently in the free agency market, teams can make some moves and bring in some big names, high-profile names, and all those deals will be done by Monday is what the expectation is. But bad journalism out of me and Matt Moe, we were talking to Brandon Bean. We were. We were talking to, if we would have done any research at all, going into that company.

You were talking about the draft, though. You said, hey, how do we get under the cap? What are we going to do? Did you ask him that? Well, Matt Mel didn't ask anything. Matt Mel talked directly at Brandon Bean for 15 straight minutes. He then got escorted out of there. What?

Yeah, he got escorted out. They kicked him out? No, I think they just told him to wait outside. Move a little left, like when people are taking a picture. A little bit left. Keep going. A little bit more left. Perfect.

Perfect. That's kind of what happened with Matt Mell. They're like, can you go stand on it a little bit? And then he was just kind of hanging out. And Matt Mell had to make some calls anyways. So I got a chance to chat with, you know, Brandon Bean about a lot of things. And I didn't even think about like, hey, who are you in a miserable fashion going to have to just like axe? Get out.

I didn't even think to ask that question whenever you're chatting about it because from a human standpoint, today sucks, dude, I would assume. You know what I mean? That's not a fun thing to do. And I think whenever all these things are covered and talked about,

I don't think people really care necessarily. Yeah, it sucks. Boo-hoo. It's the NFL wins Super Bowl. But it's like there's a lot of relationships built up there between a lot of people, you know, especially with how tight that team seemingly was and has been. I'm happy that they did it this early, you know.

Like, they get another week ahead of free agency pretty much. But, like, that has to be – those are tough days, players and front office. Yeah, think about the front – and this is a front office, too. I feel like we've talked to many different different people there they're humans like they have relationships with these players there's some gms and some different people that like to kind of stay like at arm's length and say i you know i'm i know i'm gonna eventually have to cut them or move on from these people so they don't develop relationships it feels like in buffalo like they are one big family so this could not have been easy for anybody involved.

We asked Sal about the bison. Yeah, I heard some of that. What is this talking point that they keep throwing out of whoever these artists are, air quotes, that if it gets too big, you're going to take away the detail. Get out of here. Get a bigger... It needs to be an absolute spectacle.

So people can take pictures. Make the thing 100 feet tall then so people can take pictures. Yeah, make the thing 100 feet tall then so people take pictures. It's like a monument that people drive thousands of miles to see. World's largest buffalo. Make it as big as the arch. What are we even talking about here, dude? First up. Like, the thought that everybody's phones have the little.5,

we can get a 50-foot bison into a photo. Made for that. Okay, we can get a 50-foot bison into a photo. Made for that. Okay, we can absolutely do that. And I had the incredible honor of having the opportunity to set up Plum Community Days as a child. Sure. Through the soccer club. Yep. Whatever, Plum Soccer, Plumeria Soccer.

Shout out Fred Lucas. But there was always like an ice sculptor guy yep that would come in and he would like set up his thing and then he'd do a practice run and i would like literally get to just walk like i'm just what i'm a kid at this point watching this ice sculptor do his thing for like 45 minutes because it got out of me having to build a tent okay because i'm just building tents around this entire field pretty much in the the amount of different chisels that he uses for different details, I was like mind-blowing by this child.

Like, damn, this is a very descript ice sculpt. Now, it's all gone that way. This thing's all gone. Here's the middle of summer. This thing's dead. But what he was doing, they're telling, just as somebody that as a child

watched Sculptor up close and personal probably seven times in my life. They can't get a bigger chip. What are we? Here's the question. I don't understand it. Like, how is that the excuse for me? I think the headline is big ass bison.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Big ass parking spots. Yep. Did you hear that? Well, great idea. That's genius. I think that is like a premium lot, though. Is that like special premium lots that you pay extra for?

I mean, you should charge extra for it. Yeah, are we really going to trust this? Like, we thought we were getting 40 foot bites, and now we think these parking spots are going to be 2X, and it's going to be 10 more inches on the back end. Like, let's be real here. If we pull back, yeah, absolutely, better than nothing. But I don't know if 10 inches is better.

It better be. I'm not trusting it. Don't trust it. Because what do we do with these bikes? 10 inches is huge. We're pissed. I'm not trusting it. Don't trust it. Because what do we do with these bison? 10 inches is huge. We're pissed off about the bison. Yeah, it is. I agree.

We're pissed off about the bison. Four and a half would help, too. But I'm just saying. Be good enough. We're talking about these bison being massive. And we're bummed about it. We should not buy in to these parking spots. Okay? Because just because

it's three massive inches on the back end doesn't mean it's actually going to be a bigger parking lot. You're right. Three massive inches. Yeah. See, look at that. Massively large. Huge. Three is huge. Let me just say that. Especially in the parking lot scenario and

others. But look at that if that's the rendering oh yeah guess what that one tent is actually going over two spots and that yeah it's touching there's no way that's the answer instead of two people at your trunk you can have four people now shut up that's dumb what's a normal parking spot and how bigger how much bigger are theirs that's what we need exactly i would assume that that tent should be a one parking spot and how much bigger are theirs? That's what we need to know. Exactly. I would assume that that tent should be a one parking spot tent, right? That's what I would have thought.

That tent was going over the line. The spot in the middle. Yeah, how about that? And I thought the detail of the Buffalo was not to take away from this photo here, the actual stadium itself. Not actually detail inside the Buffalo sculpture. Because that wouldn't make sense. No, because remember they said there's no emotion in this thing.

On the other one, yeah. On the video, there's not the emotion in the face of the bison. On the cool, massive one. Your ice sculptor was like, man. I want it to be a stoic-ass bison. Get that thing. Bison in the headlights. That's what I want.

I don't care. Right? Right. Right before the settlers. 16 feet is big, though, boys. Like, if you look at it. No, it's not. Not compared to a stadium, it's not.

It's going to be dwarfed by that stadium. Think about how massive. How big is this stick? How big is this stick? That's six. Compared to you, that stick is six foot two. That a baby. I'm not a cowboy, boots.

I'm saying that in a nice six foot and a half. Does Rap Sheet ever hold on to that? Rap Sheet. Right there. Right there. We've got to have a 24-foot or 25-foot tape measure here. Rap Sheet, no he cannot. This thing is...

He's not even... The neighbor from... Wilson. He's not even the neighbor. He's not even playing peek-a-boo. He needs to start wearing cowboy boots immediately. Yeah, exactly. The De Niro list. He's only 12 feet.

So that's not going to be enough, you see. Well, neither are those parking spots, because we just saw them. Hey, check it out. This sucks. It sounds like if you're a Buffalonian brother, maybe just have your eyes set on how cool the stadium's going to look, not the other stuff. All right, let's talk about some stuff we saw around the internet that we appreciated just last night.

The Chargers released a video of their head coach, Jim, and the Bucs were going back on ESPN. I'd like to tighten up. Okay, tighten up. Oh. Can we still sneak in a... Think about how hilarious that is. They just came back to us just like not doing it.

Yeah. Frozen. Hey, it's great to be back on ESPN2. Yeah. Who won? Just kidding. Who cares? They probably weren't even competing for anything.

Good luck to the F1. Hey, congrats to the F1 racers being healthy today. That's right. Staying healthy. Staying sane. Takes a lot of courage to strap yourselves into one of those rockets. A lot of those rockets. We appreciate that.

It is an absolute honor to be back here on ESPN2. AJ Hawk is right here. Wow, AJ! AJ, while we were off air there, we had a chance to chat about the greatness of these F1 cars. You really had a good take on

what the best one should do whenever they're trying to drive those cars around those tracks all over the globe what was that again if you could remind the people because i don't remember exactly how it went i'm not sure exactly what is going on here i never watched the netflix series on f1 so i didn't get uh i didn't dive headfirst like our good friend darius butler did and he hangs out with jay leno and jay wears the the Canadian tuxedos every single day over there. So I'm not really sure what's happening in F1. I know Verstappen wins every race, or every race seems to be a time trial, and he has a sweet private jet that continues to pop up on my feet.

He does have a sweet private jet. And as the official post-F1 time trial race show, it's only right that we give our breakdown. What Verstappen did on that track today. It was masterful. Did you see what he did, AJ? You're a man who drives with both feet in the United States of America, in Ohio. Some people call it a liability, but not in F1, especially with Verstappen on the controls.

Ain't that right, AJ? Oh, that's right. Who's he with right now for stopping? Well, he moved out of a Mercedes. Okay, somebody moved to Mercedes. Yeah, Louis moved from Mercedes to Ferrari. Oh, of course. Because King Louis raced in the Indy 500 a couple years back.

That's right. Over here in America. Now, he did not win. The IndyCar drivers, I believe, got the best. But it's much different over here they're racing next to each other over here right in america because they care you know i mean they're going they're doing this and there's some robins racing oh yeah fighting on the track yeah oh there's a little spirit and ready for f1 uh i assume andretti because i mean mario italy right

like i think actually so probably came up in the F1 world, I'd assume. He's probably a big fan. I think they all are. I assume we would be big fans, too, if we understood it more. Unless you went Le Mans, it doesn't matter. Because I think every time we watch it, we just don't see, like, racing. We see driving at a fast clip around a really cool course. That would be fun, too, to drive around ourselves for sure yeah

wouldn't it be cool to see aj in that brand new truck he has oh my god oh my god what is it souped up what do you got 150 f-150 souped up going around that monaco that's all i think when i'm watching yeah they're super bowl monaco exactly that's exactly where my brain goes they're super bowl and i remember turning it on just like like you guys, because we were pitched, hey, you guys get Super Bowl because football, idiots, this is their Super Bowl. And we turned it on. And we loved it. Who's we?

Who's we? We're the F1 post-time trial race show here on ESPN2. It's a wrap-up show, right? Yeah, a wrap-up show. Yeah, well, I'll wrap it up. It's the worst sport on the planet. I am NASCAR and IndyCar forever. And if you watch F1, I'm sorry.

I think you're a dipshit and you're an asshole. And that is directed at you, Darius Butler. That's F1 pundit Boston Garner. Obviously, everybody is entitled to their own opinion on things that they don't fully understand. That's the world we live in. Let's pivot back to a sport that we do know and love. A man joining us who is a multiple-time Super Bowl champion,

absolutely jacked, and a man who might have a little bit more information on what's going on over there in Denver. No quarterback, no all-pro safety. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Schlaer. Yeah! Stank, I know you're in the middle of lifting right now. Are we actually in your gym right now? You're in a gym right now?

Yes. Yeah, I'm in the gym. So you can see equipment all around me. Yeah. There's Fuji. I've known Fuji. That's my trainer back there. I've known him for 30 years.

And he is absolutely trying to kick my ass. And there's a game going on right now. As I always say, there's always a game going on. And if you don't know what that game is, you're probably it. And Fuji is it. I'm killing him right now. Let's go, Stink. Like, we saw you at Radio Road Super Bowl.

I don't think Fuji has enough weights in that room to kill you. So, we're proud of you, Stink. Thank you for taking some time. Hey, real quick. Obviously, you're very close to the Broncos. Cover the Broncos. Live in Denver. Played for the Broncos.

Legend for the Broncos. Right now, no quarterback. $85 million dead cap over the next two years. All pro. Now sent from the safety, from the defensive side of the ball. What are our thoughts on the Denver Broncos? And how long do you think this is going to take here to get Sean Payton's Broncos kind of instituted and going, Stink? I'm going to say thank goodness, right?

Because the way Russ played, the way he's played the last couple of years um he's a deficient quarterback uh he's diminished he doesn't throw the ball in the middle of the football field he doesn't anticipate throws what um you can sit here and tell me all day long 26 tds and eight interceptions i'll tell you garbage numbers like the things he does that he's just not good enough anymore so we've got to move on from that justin simmons is a cap casualty i understand that but look at the market right now for safeties there are 15 safeties out there right now that you're going to get for less money and that you're probably going to get you know more years than you will from justin simmons who just finished

his eighth year in the league so like i like I understand this is the cost of doing business. I would say this. For all those people, when a great player holds out and says, wait, I want more money, I've outperformed my contract, I want you to bite your tongue and shut your freaking mouth because contracts in the National Football League should be written on toilet paper because they ain't worth shit. All right?

So when your team dumps a guy, nobody's screaming, hey, we've got to do this. But when a guy says, I want more money, everybody goes, onto your contract, onto your contract. Baloney. If you outplay your contract, sit out and get as much as you can. Hold them hostage if you can because that's the way this league operates. Well, Jonathan Taylor did that with the Colts last year. He got his money. Congrats to him, by the way. Yeah, there you go, hold them hostage if you can, because that's the way this league operates. Well, Jonathan Taylor did that with the Colts last year.

He got his money. Congrats to him, by the way. Yeah, way to go, JT. He got his money. Way to go, JT. But you're right. It is a cold business. Go ahead. Yeah.

Go ahead. I said Chris Jones did the same thing as well last year, and he's going to get paid this year again. Yeah, yeah. So his deal ended up, I think, being relatively similar. last year, and he's going to get paid this year again. Yeah, yeah. So his deal ended up, I think, being relatively similar. Jonathan Taylor ended up getting a lot more. It worked out for him.

Now, obviously, what you're saying is what fans don't want to see happen, because they played football. You're lucky to be in the NFL. But when days like yesterday happen, and when things like what happened in Buffalo, what's happening in Denver, what's going to happen in seven other cities over the next six days before they have to get under the salary cap, it's pretty alarming because I think fans not only think like, okay, are we in a rebuild? Is that what's happening in Denver?

Like Sean Payton's trying to find his people. What do you think is happening with the Broncos and how long do you think we're expecting until we're, you know, that tough division? That's a tough division. we're you know got top division that's a tough division well you know it's interesting because people here in denver are like well sean payton's a thug and he may you know russell he said you're either gonna i'm gonna cut you if you don't take this uh you know injury guarantee out of your contract and all this stuff like for eight years this place has been garbage that the denver broncos were a crown jewel in the national

football league and they're not they're irrelevant and we keep putting band-aids on things and think that that's going to fix it and i for one am sitting here saying thank you sean payton for recognizing that this team is not very good this team does not have one guy that's homegrown on this football team that's ever even come close to sniffing the playoffs ever so ultimately it is time to quit putting band-aids on gaping wounds and it's time to perform some surgery and i think that's exactly what sean payton's doing you may suffer some pain here for a year or two but if you went on with russell wilson for another two years paying him that ridiculous amount of money you know what you're going to be sitting right him paying here for a year or two but if you went on with russell wilson for another two years paying him that ridiculous amount of money you know what you're going to be sitting right where

you are right now two years three years from now so i for one am glad that they're actually they're actually moving on and saying hey we're going to fix this thing and we're going to tear it down and we're going to rebuild it uh go ahead aj stink do you think this is kind of how sean payton saw this thing playing out when he took the gig? Or what do you think he said to ownership when he did have that job as far as Russell Wilson and the future of the team? Yeah, I think that Sean Payton came in going, hey, listen, I'm going to try to make it work,

and I'm going to try to give you the best I can. But ultimately, if Russell does not fit my plans and he can't do the things that I want him to do as a starting quarterback in the National Football League, I need the freedom to move on. And so I think those things were very clear coming into this thing. He was very clear with ownership. They understood exactly that, and I think that's why, you know,

you've seen this go the way it has. You have another set to do right now? What is it? Oh, yeah, man, I am. Listen, you guys don't even want to. I'm a unit. You guys don't even want to know I want to know I saw you at Radio Road do you remember seeing this guy

Biggest neck I've ever seen in my life He had one of those like elastic Or no like what is that Polyester Is that polyester Whatever I put on Yeah whatever I put on It looks like a scuba suit because that's how thick I am.

Just unbelievable. By the way, why don't you wear tank tops anymore? I miss seeing you in tank tops. It got cold. It got cold. I'll be back in tank tops, though, whenever spring, summer comes around. But I had a lot of shirts. I'm in shape for the first time in a long time.

And everybody thinks tank tops. Yeah, and everybody thinks like tank top. Yeah, you look good. Come on. Hey, don't think that good shape doesn't recognize good shape. I saw you at the Super Bowl, and I thought to myself, my initial reaction is, Pat's hot. Like, you are sexy. Oh, hey.

Hey. Okay. Whoa. Hey, that feels good. I said, that guy is fine. Okay, well, I appreciate that. We did have a big hug. I couldn't get my arms around him.

I couldn't get my arms around the guy. So we appreciate you. Good luck with the rest of the workout. Thank you for all. Thank you, brother. Hey, real quick, though. I just heard from a Steelers fan earlier today that Russell Wilson might be their quarterback. There's rumors, everything.

We're in rumor season right now. He got pumped about it. Because they're only going to have to pay $1.2 million, obviously, because Denver Broncos are going to pay the rest of the money. So it's not a big salary cap. But you said that he's not the same guy. And then you said the stat's not good. Like, Dan Orlovsky, he said he watched.

Good player. Great player. That's right. I think PFF had him. Still got it. Yeah. That's how they're pushing it. That's not the sentiment by everybody, I don't think,

what you're saying there, Mark. Well, no. I mean, I think all the time I hear quarterbacks talk about it. And I think quarterbacks are protecting quarterbacks. I think that happens. And I tell you, he threw the ball behind the line of scrimmage more than any other quarterback in the league last year. Took more time to throw the ball than everybody in the league other than Justin Fields. more time to throw the ball than everybody in the league other than Justin Fields

and did not, I think he completed 26% of his passes intermediate range in the middle of the football field which was dead last in the National Football League last year. So you can sit there and tell me that he played good and you can look at the numbers and say 26-8 is good and I'll tell you that it's garbage.

What I saw was garbage and I'm just letting you know exactly how it is. Alright, well good luck on that next set of bench We appreciate the hell out of you pal Alright man we'll talk to you guys Hey can Fuji film this Or is he actually we're almost dying in there If he's not spotting you

No no no this is light I'm still warming up Okay alright well good luck out there If you could tweet out what your max is today We'd like to hear it It's a lot I wouldn't even want to venture a guess All right. Well, good luck out there. If you could tweet out what your max is today, we'd like to hear it. It's a lot. I wouldn't even want to venture a guess. Well, I'm not even in the camera.

There I am. I don't know where I'm going. Hey, later. I got to go. All right. See you later, Mark Schler. Yeah, Stig! Yeah, I mean, you can tell.

He's like, he's the 16-foot bison. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. They should model it after Stig. I was, went up, went big, boom, pow. One of those, you know? Boom, exactly. They should model it after Stig. I was, went up, went big, boom, pow. One of those, you know? Boom, pow. And you know when the person's going to do the slap to the hug, too, about right here. You know, like when they're coming in, it's like, all right, that's going to be,

it looks like that's going to be, we're out, we're hugging here. Or coming in for a fool. Or just going in for a bang. Or coming in for this or just going in for bang or coming in for this up the bro hug and i think us as humans do a good job we do actually of kind of reading that reading the clues as we're kind of greeting each other there was a time where we weren't able to do it yeah it was terrible remember we're tapping in front of shoes elbows yeah but when he came in, I was like, oh, we're doing with big hug. And I go around. It felt like I was hugging a buffalo.

Yeah. I mean, his forehead to back of neck is three feet. Like, that's how far away they are. That's how sick he is. It was literally this one right here. I think I did. Oh, yeah. He's had like 200 surgeries, too.

And he's still probably benching 405 for 15 reps. Think about what Fuji has seen in a weight room. You think he dreads it? You think Fuji's like, son of a bitch, I got to spot Stink today. Let's talk about what Stink just said as a man who covers the Denver Broncos every day on his radio show in Denver. Wow. Okay?

Yeah. We heard Sal Capaccio talk about everything happening in Buffalo, getting callers this morning saying that this was a necessary move to cut all these people. They understand it. They're bummed out about it. So that's how Sal Capaccio and the Buffalo Bills are handling it. Mark Schleyerth, also a daytime

show, I think, every single day in Denver. He goes, yeah, need it. This guy, not as good as he once was. But was there a chance, maybe, that he and Sean Payton were never going to be you know? Yeah. Is there a chance that Sean Payton's calling the plays be, you know? Yeah. Like, is there a chance that he and, like, Sean Payton's calling the plays, right?

Yep. Russell Wilson's learning the plays or not learning the plays or how many plays is he getting from Sean Payton? What's being instituted into the offense? What's not being? Like, there's so many different questions that I think Team 3 could come up with to combat everything. I think a lot is going to determine, be determined by how he plays next year.

Yes. Like, he needs to go play in a good spot, I think, with how a lot of people are viewing him. Like what Mark Schleyer just said, they're obviously Broncos fan in Denver, watch it happen all year. It's not just him that feels that way. There's a lot of people that think Russ is done. And then that's why whenever Dan Orlovsky and all these people come out and they go, actually, if you watch the tape,

he's playing some of his best ball. He's incredible. The team just isn't good. So there's so many different conflicting reports on his style of play, who he is, let alone his personality and everything else. If he goes somewhere and balls next year, I think that's big for his legacy. I think it's very, very, very meaningful for his legacy. So then you've got to start thinking about what's the best spot for him

to have immediate success almost, and that adds into the conversation quickly yeah it's definitely the vikings i feel like no matter what that would be his best spot but as far as the broncos situation if that meeting really happened between russ in the front office and sean payton after they beat the chiefs where they're like hey we're gonna need you to waive your injury guarantee like it feels like they just didn't like him honestly the, the new era of the Broncos. Because when he came in, obviously it was Hackett. It was completely different. It was all Russ.

As soon as Sean Payton comes in, hey, this is me. So whatever you do, it doesn't really matter because I don't really want you to be our quarterback. And if you don't like a guy, you take an $85 million cap hit as far as a dead cap goes. Yeah, it's very interesting because whenever teams get new gms and new coaches you know there's humans that are involved and humans have feelings emotions egos pride everything like that so whenever you get a new gm they have a team in their vision but also if somebody does really good and they didn't bring them in they don't get the credit for that signing yeah you know like oh you won with, oh, you won with Boone's guy.

You won with Nathaniel Hackett. Like, that is something in those worlds that is held up. It shouldn't, but it is. You're right. It should not be the case. It should be, hey, I'm here now. Whatever is best for this team now. It shouldn't matter.

But you're exactly right. There's humans involved. Yeah, there's humans involved. This isn't like in theory. You know, this isn't like an in theory thing. So that could also play into the thought sean payton going in there we've talked to sean payton we enjoy sean payton yeah absolutely we we enjoy sean payton like we were i i was on the colts team punter didn't do much second half

on the sideline had a hold we missed the kick and damn it but his team beat us in the super bowl you know and like watching that team especially as i beat us in the super bowl you know and like watching that team especially as i grew older in the nfl was like that indianapolis colts team was so good like everything was so good sean payton able to beat it like congratulations and obviously he has a great shoe game and the way he talks and like we have respect oh yeah for sean payton but we don't think that necessarily we don't know him well enough but we don't think he's necessarily above that particular thought to coming in like hey this is how i want my team to be this is what i want my quarterback to be and he envisioned this probably whenever he was off whenever he retired out of

nowhere and was away for a little bit did some tv he probably had a fool like this is how i would build my team right now if i had the opportunity so he had a couple opportunities to coach in other places he goes goes to Denver with the wealthiest owners in professional sport. I assume he laid this out. Like, this is what I want. We'll try this out. They had to give him approval early that that was going to be the case. So did that lead into a potential lack of a connection between Sean Payton, Russell Wilson? Probably. Like, that's just like human instinct, I think. But if Russ goes somewhere and does great, great. But if Sean Payton, how long is his window now?

What's he got? He gets three years to build this thing? Four years? The remainder of his contract at the very least. And don't you think part of it, too, with Russ is he wasn't getting some middle-of-the-road quarterback salary. So everyone's saying, hey, look at his stats.

26-8, that's not bad. That's not what they were paying for. These next couple years, he was going to be on the hook making serious big-time money. You can't be okay with just, yeah, 26-8 is not bad. You need a guy who's going to go out there and play good enough to take you to a Super Bowl because that was the expectation when they signed him. So if there was any disconnect between those two and they didn't really like each other, it's like, well, we're on the hook to pay this guy

a ridiculous amount of money, and he's just not going to be able to get us there, I don't believe. So let's get rid of him right now. And then, yeah, that was probably part of it when he first met with him. It's like, hey, if we do have to blow this up, I need assurances that you're not just going to shit-cam me

right away when the going gets tough. Yeah, because patience is not a thing that's normal in the NFL, but if you have a legacy and you have a resume and you've won before, hopefully people, you know, hopefully we'll do that because patience does bring some good stuff. Not everybody's going to be able to do Houston. But Houston had a long time of not being this Houston before it became this Houston.

And that was a part of the conversation yesterday with Dalton Schultz that did not get reported about. No, it didn't. It sounds like they're in a good spot. I hate that right Great, certainly. Right here in Indiana. Very good. Let's pivot away.

Top five chefs. In all of Houston. In the whole city. That'll help. Big city. Come cook for the Houston Texans. Congratulations. Yeah.

What a pitch. And then what's going on elsewhere? They're charging them for dinner? Yep, exactly. Yeah, just think about that. As Dalton Schultz is like, that did not get talked about. Anyways, let's pivot away from the NFL. Let's go to college football.

A headline while we were on vacation was that a head coach somewhere went and took an offensive coordinator position at another school in the same conference. Huge headline. Massive. What the hell's going on? Especially because the coach that did it is one that is very successful very well known in our particular program a man who is very cerebral yes ladies and gentlemen joining us now offense coordinator for the ohio state buckeyes a man who was mentioned in jason kelsey's retirement speech for changing football in the nfl forever chip kelly How you doing, Coach? What's up, Pat?

How are you? I'm going to be honest. I was in Hawaii, okay? I think I had, I think it was like two to three espresso martinis, okay? I had a couple of these little gummy things that just lightened moods. Okay, I had a few of those. I was looking out at the ocean. My daughter was there.

Wife was there. We were having a good time. Had a phone. I pick up the phone. Chip Kelly is now offense coordinator at Ohio State state thought i was getting got okay i think that's how a lot of people felt yesterday whenever you did your press conference it was like the first time we really got to hear from you i think you explained it in a manner that i assume people understand but it's like you just wanted to get back to coaching ball instead of everything else

is that the right read or what do you think really was the reasoning to to this particular move that made massive headlines everywhere in football not just college ball but like football everywhere because nfl obviously respects you as well no i mean i've said all the time but the best part of football is football and as the game has changed at the collegiate level and we talked about that, I think the head coaching role has turned a lot more into being a CEO than a coach. And I understand that. And that comes with the territory. But I was at a point in time where I could make a decision on what did I want to do. I really enjoy coaching.

I really enjoy being with the players. I really enjoy the relationships you have when you're in a meeting room. I had not been in a meeting room since 2008. You know, I became a head coach in 2009. As the head coach, you visit the meeting rooms, you're in there. But as you know, AJ, you're the head coach isn't in the linebacker meeting. You know, he may poke his head in there and see how everybody's doing. But I got a chance to coach the quarterbacks in our bowl game, because our quarterback coach is a great football coach left to be the offensive coordinator in Oregon State. So I coached the quarterbacks and I was in a meeting room daily for two weeks leading up to our bowl game against Boise State and almost forgot about how much fun that part of it is. You know, and as I thought about it, you know, when I was at a point where I could say, here's an opportunity to go be a coach again, not a CEO.

So it would have taken a real special place to get me to leave UCLA because I love the players there. I love the coaching staff we have there. We had a great situation. But the opportunity to come here and just coach football and not have to do the things that a head coach is asked to do now in college football appealed to me hey congratulations on chasing fulfillment you know and happiness not a lot of people do that man especially in your profession you know that go ahead aj coach i know you've only been on campus not too long but you guys have had at least a couple spring practices already what's it been like getting out there and you know exploring your new role and obviously the whole new team

trying to learn everybody's name and figure out where everything is. Where's the bathroom? Where's my meeting room? How has that whole situation been? Where's the plunger? Yeah, we know, Chip, especially at Ohio Food. As you know, AJ, you can get lost in this building. So trying to navigate that has been interesting for me.

I've found myself walking through the middle of the weight room three or four times trying to find my office. But it's been awesome. You know, I think the culture that Ryan has here and the rest of the coaching staff and Mickey Mariotti in the weight room has been awesome. You know, the players here have been fantastic. You know, they love football. You know, that's the one thing I can tell you from being here for the short amount of time that i've been here is these players love football this coaching staff loves football um and you know what it's like being in ohio it's a football is the sport in this state and it's it's awesome to be a part of something like that so um i've really

enjoyed it i've been here for three weeks we've had two training sessions we were on the field this morning uh we were on the field tuesday morning. So we've gotten two wins so far and it's been awesome. It's feel good putting together plans and day like for the actual practices and scripts and everything like that. I assume you're. Yeah. Yeah. That part. We were just watching practice tape when you guys called. So I just, you know, I've been able to do football like eight, nine hours a day. So the fact that you can, you can do that and and i've seen ryan get pulled out of the meeting and i gotta go to this i gotta go to that and it was like all right i'm good we get we'll get this we'll be we got the film we got the x and o part so hey ryan

good luck out there go get us an extra 10 million pal yeah yeah good luck i'm gonna uh i'm gonna go ahead and draw up a couple plays here and uh do football and we're apologizing right now for taking you out of that to make you go back to the bullshit that you had to do as a head coach, which is interviews. Yeah, okay, good, good, good. My goal is, Pat, is that I want to be as happy in my job as you are in your job. Well, I can help. I can send you stuff. No, I'm good. Okay, okay, Chip.

All right, you got it. No, I enjoy what I do, man. I'm very lucky to do what I do. I know. The fact that you chase that, the fact that you chase that is cool. Because I assume, and this is just me being a doofus that talks about sports, that has gone through my own self-journey, I think you're probably going to perform the best you've ever performed, too.

You know what I mean? I think that's probably going to be the case. And they always say, like, are you happy because you win, or do you win because you're happy? I think it's the latter. And, like, obviously it's not easy to find a sense of happiness or fulfillment and everything like that for people. There's a lot of hard, hard things that happen during life. But when you find something you enjoy, normally your best performances come too, because you're preparing a little bit more. You're enjoying the process a

little bit more. The things that other people might think like suck. You're like, oh, it's cool. I get to do this. It's like, that's what it feels like for you after 16 years away from doing what you basically got all of your jobs in your entire life set up from doing. Like, that's a cool thing. I bet you're going to, I bet you're going to kill it, Chip. Not that you would ever not, but I bet you're going to kill it here. That's the hope. I mean, and we talk about all the time, if you love the process, the process will love you back. The fact that you understand what your role is, how you fit in, and just embrace that. It's liberating in a way where you're like, hey, this is what I have to do.

You know the parameters. The one thing about being here is there's so many other good people in place that you don't have to do more than just your role. You know, I've got to coach quarterbacks and work with the offense. But, you know, when you look over in practice and there's Larry Johnson and there's James Laranitis and there's Jimmy Knowles and there's Tim Walton, you know, you look at those coaches on the defensive side, you're like, wow. And then you get a chance to work with Brian Hartline every day

and Justin Fry and Tony Alford and Keenan Bailey. It's, you know, everybody has a role. And it's going back to being a good team. I think when everybody on a team understands what their role is, you don't have to do more than your role. As Coach Belichick says, just do your job. I'm excited just to do my job. And I don't need to do anything else. I don't need to do the other things that a head coach wants to do.

I just get to coach quarterbacks and be with them every day. And this group of quarterbacks we have here is awesome. The fact that I get to be in a meeting room with those guys every day is pretty cool. Hell yeah. I love hearing that, Chip. Good for you, man. Congratulations. Now, you just mentioned a great coaching staff.

That was put together by one man that I think we learned you've known very well. Tone's got a question for you, Coach. Yeah, Coach. I know you've known Coach Day for a really long time, so I know this adds an extra wrinkle into this, but Coach Day has, I think, been a part of or calling the play since 2017. Then, obviously, you mentioned Coach Hartline, who was the offensive coordinator last year there,

and then now I think you and him are listed as co-OCs, and obviously Ryan being an offensive coach. Have you guys talked about how hard has the conversation been about play calling and who's going to do the play calling with the game plan? Because I know you as a head coach who did play calling in the past, how was that process with you three together? Yeah, simple. I said it the other day.

I'll call all the good plays and Ryan will bear the brunt of all the bad places. Hey, that's a head coaching job. You signed it. That's what you have to do as a head coach. Amen. All right, Chip, get back to the film study. We can't thank you enough for taking time, brother. All right, guys, appreciate it.

AJ, we've got to get you over soon. Yeah, I'm going to come watch practice. I'm going to bring some of my kids over there, Coach. I'd love to see you. We had Joey Galloway here today. Bobby Carpenter's been around. I thought you'd be excited. There's a bunch of guys.

Bobby Carpenter? John Cooper's been here every day. It's been awesome. There's such an OSU family. It's exciting to see all these players and how much they care and how much they're around this building. You understand how special this place is. Yeah, and how much Ohio State takes care of the alumni too.

I don't know if you know this. You're going to get to see this, I think, over the next year or two. You said you've seen Bobby Carpenter there. Yeah, you're going to be having meetings with Bobby Carpenter. He's running sprints with the boys in the winter workouts. Oh, I know. I know. Could you imagine that?

At 40? These guys running sprints with college kids. What a psycho. That's Ohio, by the way. That's Ohio. If I've ever heard of it. I have AJ tell you about what Schlegel does every morning, too. So we'll see that whole deal. It's awesome.

Ladies and gentlemen, the offense coordinator of the Ohio State Buckeyes. Hey, who's starting quarterback? Who do you want? Bobby Carpenter. Ladies and gentlemen, Chip Kelly. Thank you, coach. Seems happy, man.

Good. For now. Very happy. That's such a real thing that not a lot of people will make that jump because it's a lot less coin, you know, when you get a coordinator from head coach job. But, like, Chip Kelly, been around a long time i assume this is just like von miller taking the less than whatever it's like i've made money okay i'm in a good spot i'm a football guy from humble beginnings i would just like to maybe enjoy football yeah that's a that's a cool thing

to make you get older because coaches never do that no you see how miserable these coaches are mac brown has told us when he was at Texas, we asked him and he said the pressure of being the coach of Texas for that long is when you won, it was a relief and when you lost, it was devastating. There was no happiness ever. You didn't hear a single happy time

in there. You're doing all this work to not even achieve a happy. That is tough, but you just got to do it because you're a head coach. You're not going back anywhere else. So Chip Kelly being like, I'm done with this shit. I love that. I really do.

And now, granted, he's going to have to deal with some stuff from those Ohio folks if that offense is not great. Yeah, but he knows. He knows. Got to win. Got to win. That's all that matters. Got to win.

Especially this year. There's one guy ahead of him who's going to get a lot worse first and foremost. Who's that? Ryan Day. Yeah, he's number one on that public enemy list. But, you know, if their offense sputters early or something, oh, we hardship kill. That's still Ryan Day, though, too.

It's going to be fun. Yeah, what if Ohio could be a baby-faced turn for Ryan Day? Because I'm not saying it's not going to work. It's going to work. Ohio could be a baby-faced turn for Ryan Day because I'm not saying it's not going to work. It's going to work. People that are that seemingly stress-free and happy are going to perform their best,

I think, especially if it's a mental thing. I agree. It's just like a clearer thing like that. But if they start out not doing good, Ryan Day almost baby-faced. He needs to call plays again. Yeah. There's a chance that that could happen too

over there in the great state of Ohio, the Buckeye State, a place of no overreacting at all to anything. Oh, no, none at all. But it does remind me, I need to go see some of the practice. They practice in the morning. Did you ever do that in college? A lot of teams do it now. I think we did it my last year a couple times.

We never did it before, though. It was always afternoon or late afternoon. Better in the morning? I'm sure in science. I think it would be nice to get it better in the morning i'm sure in science i think it'd be nice to get it out of the way though and then go to class because i i knew your last class had to end by like 12 50 and then i had to ride a bus over to the facility so i had to sprint get on a bus get my pads on in like three minutes and get to meetings like now they do all that in the morning i guess then you can come back in the afternoon and get treatment or do whatever i had

some incredible professors you know at west virginia yep a couple of them though i didn't get to hear them do their job much sure and it was normally a couple of them just a couple just a couple it was normally the ones that were close to the practice time because it's like i'm not risking being late to this practice for whatever you You have to say. This incredible professor. This incredible, very talented. I'll get the notes online. He'll put the notes online, right? Bingo, yeah.

Got a friend in the class. One of the tests, just I need to know when the tests are, and then I'll just cram. Those nights before were wild. I didn't like cheating in the whole test thing because I felt like it was me versus the class. That's how I did for the professors and for tests and even high school, I think. So always wanted to be super prepared for things that mattered.

But, boy, all the other stuff in between. I am not risking Rich Rodriguez finding me five minutes late as the kicker of this team. Like, that is not what I'm – I'm not doing stadiums, okay, for the next three weeks for whatever you got going on. So I think morning would make more sense because you can just schedule afterwards, and if they run late or there's something that takes place, you can go into the night.

Because I had, like, a film class, I think, like 8 o'clock. Oh, yeah. I was at that one. Long one. Those were fun ones. Yeah, those weren't bad. The turbos, they used to call them,

like, two and a half hours. You're a morning person, though, aren't you? You're a morning guy? Yeah, I would be. And I'd like to get practice. I would definitely like to get practice out of the way in the morning. We had guys leave practice to go to class at times. Like every Wednesday, we'd have certain starters where they would take a class that was only taught at that time.

And they had to take it to be on course to graduate. And they would legit be at practice for 30 minutes or something. At Ohio State? Yeah, what? Whoa. Multiple guys like that. They didn't just invent a different time for it? I wonder if that happened in West Virginia.

I don't remember. Does that happen in a lot of places? Now, no. Now everything is online, isn't it? Do they even go to class? I think there was a theory I saw on the internet, so this means absolutely nothing. You never know. You never know.

They've been hit. But it's like the college, in certain departments, I guess. But in this particular one, it was like if you get a scholarship, it's used, you get a scholarship in the future. So you're just full-time football. So it's like your job. And then you can use the scholarship at any time to graduate yeah like when you're i think i saw that like hypothesized by somebody because nowadays i would assume and i'm this is not a knock on any academia

okay no but there are certain uh fields of study that you can major in that are not, I mean, they're not college, you know. Sure. Yeah. Right. It's not setting you up to ever make a job that you'll ever be able to pay back the amount of money you're paying for college. And a lot of sports, I think, are doing that in a lot of places. Sports are your full-time job. If they end up moving away from the NCAA and doing like a full professional

thing, is that what, like, do you just represent the school? Like, do you actually have to be at the school still? Like how long, you know what I mean? Like how long does this all, I'm intrigued to see what happens in the future with the whole inevitable professionalism of college football seemingly. Now I just said a lot of words that mean none of this could happen. And that's because that is the world that we're in as well.

Because right now everything's just going zoom, changing so quickly like this. It's like, who knows where we're going to stop and where we're going to land at. But the thought of a college football commissioner has been thrown out by a lot of people with very much influence can college football say and everything like that. It's like, then what does the academics have to do, especially if you move the transfer rule into the middle of a semester? Because like a lot of the transfer portal stuff has to happen early because you've got to get enrolled for the second semester or the spring semester. It's like, is football just going to let that be the reason why, you know? It's like... Everything seems very confusing. What the hell does college football look like even five years from now? I don't think we know. And Chip Kelly was

sitting in meetings trying to figure that out. He's like, I'm sick of trying to... Can we run a seven? I just want to... That's what he got to do. It's 2008. It hasn't ran a meeting room since 2008. I get it. He probably just needs to be around the dudes again to actually coach football. That's why you start coaching, because you like to teach guys and make them better.

Yeah, every coach is a teacher if they're a good one. Obviously, we learned that through Coach Saban this past year. He's just a professor of football. But the whole head coach stopping in rooms saying, hey, how we doing? They might not even be in that conversation. In their head, there's probably something else happening. Oh, for sure. Their head, their body's there.

Yes, sure. But their soul is. If he's there, he's probably just checking on the position coach because he questions that position coach doing his job. Yep. We working? Yep. Okay, good.

All right. Good to see you. Hey, you guys are doing great. Keep it up. What are we doing? We're doing a thingy? Yep. That's what I thought.

All right. See you guys. I need $14 million if we're going to beat Michigan. If that's what we're going to do, I'm going to need $14 million. I need you, and I've got a meeting with a car dealer next, and I've got a meeting with an insurance salesman after him. Head coach run down the hall to put a suit on real quick, and then he sprints out and goes and gives a little 10 minute talk

To a group of boosters and he comes back Changes yeah that's his day I mean Saban just kind of talked about why Saban came out and said a lot we'll talk about that in the next hour But he did say like 80% of these guys Just want to know if they're going to play and how much they're getting paid He's like that's not what A team is built around

And he said maybe this doesn't work anymore because I wasn't able to Change their mind like I think he felt Let down in himself Yeah he said, maybe this doesn't work anymore because I wasn't able to change their mind. I think he felt let down in himself. Message wasn't landing anymore. Yeah, he said that. Yeah. It's crazy. I can't wait to see him on college game day.

Oh, it's going to be awesome. Kevin DeBoer has a big test. What's that? Kevin DeBoer. It's going to be tough for him. He's got a big job. Let me see what Washington is doing. All right, anyways, we'll be back tomorrow with a feel-good Friday.

Be a friend to other friends. Something nice. Take. Yep, gone. N a friend to other friends. Something nice. Take. Yep. Gone. Nailed it. Well done. It's hard, but we're F1'd.

Yeah, I know. 115. We dig it, F1'd. We got F1'd. Yeah. That all happened. I got F1'd. Are we missing the boat?

No. Absolutely not. We're not. We tried it. We're not. We tried it. We're not smart enough to understand it? Is that what it is? Yeah, we don't understand the intricacies of what's going on in front of us. It is an elegance excellence that we could never fathom with our dumb American palates.

The engineering is just so impressive. We need a movie. There was a movie. 47 minutes. I need 47 minutes telling me why. Actually, you know what it is? They were filming it. You're exactly right.

Once the Brad Pitt F1 movie comes out where he's an F1 driver, the F1 boom will go through. I mean, I won't watch it until that comes out. If that movie is sweet, I'll consider it. Because I just watched Gran Turismo and Ford vs. Ferrari both this week. And, like, yeah, it gives you a real respect for racing, but there hasn't been an F1 movie yet. Well, the Drive to Survive thing, I think, gave it a big boost.

I didn't watch that. But I don't care about that. Is Brad Pitt in that? No. Is Brad Pitt in this F1 movie directed by the guy who directed Top Gun Maverick? Yes, he is. I don't want to watch it in real life. Oh, we're going to be in the damn F1.

Exactly. So give me that, and then I'll consider it. So then we're just going to see the tail end of another F1 car the whole time? Because that's basically what the races are. Yeah, maybe. That's an hour of the movie. How old are these F1 car the whole time because that's basically what their races are. Yeah, maybe. That's an hour of the movie. How old are these F1 drivers? How old are most of the drivers?

I think they're all fit. But they're in their 20s, right? Well, they're super fit, yeah. Some of them. I believe Louis. Brad Pitt is 50-something years old. He looks great, but is he supposed to be a professional driver? Probably an aging icon.

Oh, yeah. He's probably too tall. Making one last run at it or something. He's tall, right? Isn't Brad Pitt? Like 5'11", 6'0". Yeah. He's like too tall. Making one last run at it or something. He's tall, right? Isn't Brad Pitt? Like 5'11", 6'0". Yeah. He's like 6'3".

Is A.J. Hawk seriously questioning if Brad Pitt can pull off a role right now? Is that what he's trying to insinuate? Oh, yeah. What's next? George Clooney can't do it? Shut up. Denzel Washington? Enough.

You're right. What's your problem? Now that I've thought about it. You're right. I actually am wrong. Nick, thank you for calling. You're right. I should not question Brad Pitt or George Clooney.

Either one. I hope Brad Pitt, while he is stuffed in that, I mean, he's going to be in there. He's got John Hamm on him, too, I heard. Of course, he's Brad Pitt. He's Brad Pitt. I hope while he's doing one of these races, reaches into his

pocket, grabs like chips, eats it. Shrimp cocktail. Subway sandwich. He's such a good eater. He is. Look how cool that man looks. Are you kidding me? He can't do it, huh, AJ? Look at how cool that human is.

I cannot believe it was an IndyCar. That's a bummer. They should have got Brad Pitt in an IndyCar. Have you ever seen Sylvester Stallone and Sunshine from Remember the Titans IndyCar movie that came out in about 2000. What? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, no one went and saw that movie. Yeah, it bombed big time, but still, it's pretty good. We need Brad Pitt and IndyCar stacked. Yeah, movie's going to be great. Sport fucking sucks. I mean, people are into it. I mean, is it a sport? That's a question all along, too.

It is a sport. I'm not touching that. It is a sport. I think it touching that. It is a sport. I think it's a sport because you compete and you can win outright. I think it becomes a competition when judges are the ones deciding because you're competing for a score. I think it's a sport if you can score. I don't think it's either because Verstappen wins every time.

Yeah, so it is quite a monopoly, I guess. No competition. I did see, I think, over break, ESPN ranked the 100 hardest sports or something like that. Was that number one? There's 100 sports? I don't think so. 100 sports. Remember Dahani Jones?

Yeah. You should travel the world. Oh, he did. That was a good show. I watched that show. I was a big fan of that show. So was I. I was a big fan of that show.

I forget what it was called. Where'd Dahani go? Dahani was awesome. He was all over for a while, like all over the TV. Didn't his name come up the other day? I think his name came up. Ran out of that show. I forget what it was called. Where'd DeHoney go? DeHoney was awesome. He was all over for a while. Like, all over the TV. Didn't his name come up the other day? I think his name came up. Ran out of bow ties. He did have a good bow tie. He was jocked. He was jocked.

He's very jocked. Sweet hair. Sweet sports, though. I'd watch that. I'd, like, watch a sport. I'd be like, oh, I'd be pretty good. I should go. You'd do, like, the log tipping or the telephone pole throws. That type of stuff. I should go to fucking Finland. Looks like that's a sport. Yeah. I'd be pretty good there. I mean, the ice skating down a mountain. Like, that sport of stuff. I just got a fucking feeling. It looks like that's squirrel. Yeah. I'd be pretty good at that. I'm in the ice skating down a mountain.

Like, that sport, sick. That's a great sport. Yeah, that's a race. Squirrel suit. Boxing is the hardest sport. What do you mean hardest? I think it's probably cardiovascular. Endurance, strength, power, speed, agility, flexibility.

Leave me out of this. Hand eye. Why, AJ? Because, I mean, come on now. Put all these numbers and everything. Who's doing the calculations? He explains it above. No, say the number.

Dude, these numbers matter. These are real. You're saying steer wrestling is the easiest sport? What? That's what I did, isn't it? No, no, no. That's right. Top 15.

Okay, keep it going. Okay, I was about to say, I did wrestle a steer before. How is boxing number one in MMA is six or whatever when MMA encompasses boxing? You wouldn't understand. What's the easiest? Kind of debunked this whole thing. Jake Paul became a pro in like five years. Well, did he actually, Foxy?

He's fighting Mike Tyson. Yeah. Probably because MMA, just five rounds. What's the easiest? What's the very best? Usually three. Boxing, that whole, the boxing party of things. Yep, that makes sense. Roller skating.

Roller skating's a sport? Yeah, when they're racing. It's an activity? Well, I think it's, roller skating is the, when they're going around in a circle. Derby? Golf is the 51. Come on. Golf is one of the hardest sports.

I think this has to do with. This is just physical? Physical, yeah. Yeah. Maybe, I don't know. Endurance strength, power speed, agility. 65 categories. What are you talking about?

Nerves? Is nerves? Is that N-E-R? And why isn't golf a 10? Yes. Oh, here we go. Here's the key. Nerve, the ability to overcome fear.

Okay, what's golf on nerve? 2.38? What are we talking about? What does that mean? Horse racing is 8. The nerves are on the horse. I think it's adrenaline. I don't know.

It's kind of scary to ride a horse running full speed. Yeah, definitely scary. I think I would definitely call that, but I'm talking about golf, the nerves. That's the sport. Yeah. The sport is nerve, like standing over a pipe. Fishing. Okay, fishing.

That's why it's last. Last. It's 60, it seems like. Yeah, it's got low numbers across the board there. Sport. Last by a lot. These fishermen love fishing. It was 40-some degrees on the lake.

They were out there. Oh, yeah. Wide open. Yep. First day that ice melts. Wide open. They're flying to their spots, too. I've seen these two, I think, racing for the same spot because there was a spat.

Really? No. It was awesome. I was watching with my binocs Oh my god Guy had double twin turbos on the back The other one just had a one The one had a head start Quite a head start

I think the one thought easy breezy beautiful day Out here on the lake Glass water nothing nobody Chilly as shit Jacketed up hatted up, cruising. Sitting on that little fucking seat in the middle of the boat. Yep. That just has nothing else but like, so they could just stand and then some seat pops out

in the front that looks incredibly uncomfortable. Having a morning. And then this fucking big dog comes flying around. Like goes into like, there's like little what are those called coves inlets there it is uh goes into this cove and like i'm in eyeshot of this entire thing parks that thing and then you see the slower one boom like turns sideways like let down like yeah yeah it was it was awesome dude you gotta get your spot yeah you do exactly gotta get your spot when you're out there fishing that's a little nervy oh yeah that's a little nervy what about the sunburn these guys are getting absolutely cooked

these assholes are out here these days they all got the hook fishing shirts that are very actually fashionable not all of them some of these people i think have spent every dollar they've ever made on their fishing boat. Definitely. Like, this is every... They are doing this. This is my life.

Okay, I'm going to work to get enough money to do what? Eat to survive and fish. Yep. And they love... It's awesome to watch. They're pulling some fucking... Oh, yeah. You don't think those guys who are cheating were nervous?

Could you imagine the nerves on those guys? When they were putting weighted weights in other fillets. He stood a bunch of balls to take them out there, you know, because they check your boat. How'd they hide them? Hey, that was Ohio, right? I believe the guys were from Ohio or the fishing competition was in Ohio. I think C, all of the above.

Yeah. You saw as they policed their own. They knew. They found it out. Those guys found them. them hey here we go cut them open for those that don't know what we're referring to a few years ago there was a scandal that rocked the fishing world like something we've never seen before in the fishing community yeah two fishermen we think from ohio in an ohio fishing tournament on a lake started dumping weights into the guts of the fish that they would catch. They'd get a 6

inch fish and it'd be weighing more than a 22 inch fish. Won multiple tournaments. Oh yeah, a lot of prize money. Thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars. Somehow these guys at multiple lakes and multiple rivers and creeks are able to find the

heaviest fish even though they're not the biggest and longest fish and then one day they tried their old trick oh boy and the rest of the ohio fuck said wait one minute i'm about sick of this shit they took a knife to one of these fish fillets that you buy at the grocery store were falling out of these fish fillets though yeah they were fish fillets falling out of the fish weights and rocks and pebbles falling out of the fish I had a fish for hungry right there's a dumb fish in Iraq what about the what about the weight well fish was hungry yeah even more so this fish eats rocks yeah and I caught it and then they end up in jail. Oh, yeah.

Had to give back hundreds of thousands of dollars. And their boats. Yeah. That's a damn shame. That's a damn shame. I heard something about an Ohio Chick-fil-A, too. Yeah. Let's get to a break.

Not good. I did not, actually. You don't want it. It's not good. Terrible. Similar to- Chick-fil-A food, incredible. The restaurant, phenomenal.

Similar to an Iowa KFC situation. An owner of a Chick-fil-A food, incredible. The restaurant, phenomenal. Similar to an Iowa KFC situation. An owner of a Chick-fil-A. That does not represent the entire company, but it's certainly right there in the headline. Is Matt Reif an Ohio guy? Nope. Heard he was training last night. He trains all the time.

Yeah, what a weird deal. There's been a lot of that on the internet. Just things being said, and then a person wakes up from a nap, maybe. Mm-hmm. Whoa. Holy shit. What?

We're in a different time now than we were. What? Before the... Yeah. Yeah. Internet's a wild place. It's the greatest place on Earth, and at the same exact time, the worst place on Earth. Always.

Tread lightly, my friends. Zach Ertz on the other side just got a deal with the commanders. Congrats, Zach. Proud of you, buddy. Super Bowl champion Jason Kelsey told a story about him the other day in his retirement speech. I'm excited to ask him about his thoughts on that. We saw Nick Foles'

reactions to the shout-out that Jason Kelsey gave him and his penis in the retirement speech. Nick Foles said, we all love the speech. We all got a good laugh. That was in a video that was on the New Heights podcast. Good chug. Great chug. Yeah. Nick Foles. He said after, still got it. When you're ready. Yeah, there you go.

I became a massive Nick Foles fan. Me too. Over the last three days. 24 hours. Yeah, pretty much. Love everything about him. What was that, Tony? Just got a clarification From AtzTealerNation Tweeted us And said one of the guys

One of the fishermen Is from Hermitage PA Not all Ohio guys Oh So Pittsburgh No No Hermitage

He was the ringleader Huh Who? The Pittsburgh guy He's not a Pittsburgh He's Pennsylvania It's a big state Six hours

One side to the other Someone said it was Basically touching Sounds like it is a Pittsburgh guy. This is a Pittsburgh guy. Huh? You see him? Yep.

That's Joe DiNardo. He's the best of us, though. Hermitage is right outside of Youngstown. It's like right on the other side of the border. Joe's got a hammer. Duh. Especially when he's on that Doppler. Shout out to Shuffle1 and 2.

Shout out. Shout out. Rest in peace, Joe. Thanks for everything you did. Love you, Joe. Joe DiNardo is the greatest meteorologist in the history of meteorology. Invented the word. Doppler.

Number two in meteorology. He's probably worked for the CIA. Don't you... You think Joe DiNardo was a rat? No, no. He was saving our lives. He was keeping Americans safe. Yeah, he protected Pittsburgh from the inside with weather. I don't know

what you guys are trying to say here. I don't like it. I don't like what you just said right there. Like Storm from X-Men. Because what Joe DiNardo did on that Doppler will never be duplicated. No. You can never duplicate DiNardo on the Doppler. Ever.

And I'll double down on that every day of the damn week. Okay? That's DiNardo, baby. That's right. He was damn good. He was. That right side looks like he's coaching wrestling, too. He's coaching a lot. He's a priest on the right side.

Yeah. No, he's not. I think that was actually at a wrestling tournament with all the meteorologists from around the country. Wrestling each other? Yep. And Joe DiNardo, you should have seen what he did to Al Roker. Who? Yeah.

Oh, boy. Two points. Al was bigger back then, too. Yeah. Single leg. Joe DiNardo snapped it off. Single leg. Scoop.

Body cross. Fall. Hey! Joe actually took the... Took the singlet off? Yeah. Single leg. Scoop. Body cross. Fall. Hey. Joe actually took the... Took the sanglet off. Oh, yeah. All right. Let's get to a break.

Zach Ertz on the other side. Thank you, Joe. Love you, Joe. Love you, Joe. Miss you, Joe. Bummed out every day. Bet you're no longer with us, Joe. Talk Kurt Angle, everything he knows.

Kurt Angle grew up watching Joe Nardo. Joe was an All-State basketball player. They called him the Flash. Jumping Joe? Yeah, I know. That was in a different sport. He was track, too. He did high jump.

Oh, okay. That's right. Let's get to a break. Zach Ertz will join us on either side. Go. Did you see what was happening in the women's concava last night? I think it's Zach Ertz. I think it was obviously his wife.

Yeah, what a Jewish. Jewish women's national team member. The concava is the hardest place to play. You can't even run with a soccer ball last night. No. Kick it. Did we beat the hell out of Canada in that? Won in a penalty shootout.

Oh, my God. That must have been the most boring soccer game in the history. It was pretty electric, actually. Dude, because Alex Morgan has a wide open run at this thing, and then the ball just wouldn't go forward anymore. Yep. In a puddle, she's full speed, actually, almost pulling hip flexor, quad, shin,

while trying to kick the ball forward through a pond on the field. And then balls go in the other. Oh, fast break now for Canada. Yep. Because they pulled the ball out of the pond. They're going the opposite direction when America thought they were on a full speed rush this way. Final against Brazil. USA-Brazil?

Yep. They beat Mexico 3-0. So just real quick, Brazil's in the concava? Yeah, I thought so. Yeah, that's interesting. They are not. But also, USA's in the COPA. COPA America's in the States this year.

USA's in it. Brazil's not. Feels like people are just entering random tournaments now. Oh, it feels like people are entering random tournaments now. Yeah, now. That's what it feels now. Well, recently. Like tonight, there's the CONCACAF Champions League into Miami's playing. See, this is what we've been talking about, recently. Like tonight, there's the Concava Champions League

Inter-Miami's playing. See, this is what we've been talking about, AJ. There's too many things. No, but this is actually huge because an MLS team will make the Club World Cup and play against Man City, the best of the best in a tournament. I didn't even know there was a Club World Cup. I'm just learning that that exists.

This is actually huge, to be honest. Yeah, by the way. Okay, hey, good for us. Good for the Concave. You don't want MLS to play against the best teams in the world, AJ? We are the best teams in the world. What are we even talking about? The Club World Cup.

Man City ate the best of the best gump. It's bigger than Miami. You never walk alone, my friend. Are we hosting? I see they're dropping a LeBron uniform. Are we hosting the club world championship? No, I don't know where it is. In Miami, the best team.

They should. Okay, let's do a vote. Who has the best player? We do. Miami. So we host it now. Yep. Sorry.

Balloon door. You guys gave it to them. Big win for Columbus crew last night. 96 minutes. Oh, I saw that. Right at the death. Yeah. Rightoon door. You guys gave it to him. Big win for Columbus Crew last night. 96 minutes. Oh, I saw that. Right at the death. Right at death. That was sick.

Big night for you, AJ. What's U.S. Nations coming up? What's this? The which? The U.S. Nations Cup. Oh, that's just the four top teams in Concave playing a little four-game tourney. Just a semifinal.

Are they doing that right now? Yeah, what's the difference? That's women's. What are we doing? Just, what's the difference? That's women's. What are we doing? Just run it back next week? It's women's. Who makes the schedules? Like a pick-up game.

Concava matters, dude. How does anybody schedule a game when you're all playing in 30 different tournaments on five different continents? Well, you're international and you have your domestics. These aren't domestics that were not in Brazil. They're not even in the context. You guys sound like a bunch of uncultured swine.

Thank you, Tony. All I know is the United States is winning it. The MLS is the best league in time. Is Santa going to play for us this year? That's all I want to know. Put him on the field. He's having a tough go in Italy. He's playing well, but the fans have turned on him.

That's classic Italy. We know why. You wouldn't know shit about fuck about that. Oh, I do. I do know a lot about that, Tony. Let's get to a break. Mark Schlaer has sent us a photo from his gym with Fuji. Holy shit.

My God. That is not a snake on his right arm. That is not a worm. That is one of his veins somehow. Got the scene of biceps. Look at how fucking round this human being is jeez zito has forwarded me a quote that mark slareth has sent to that's called power the program hey set your goals high i mean a body like this is unrealistic for you ass clowns but don't let it deter you.

Let it encourage you. By the way, Fuji says you're a bunch of soft ass bitches. Fuji. Fuji. I thought we had a good combo. Yeah. Come on, Fuji. Fuji.

I love that, man. We got no problem, stink. Okay? Yeah. Jeez Louise. Tell your nipples to stop staring at me. Good Lord. What a monster. Ice cold in there.

I don't think it's cold in there. I think he's rocked up. I mean, that is a double XL shirt probably. Oh yeah. I need these companies to start making bigger shirts more cold.

What if you're a 90 year old grandma though And you're just getting a little workout And you're doing a little hand bike And Stink is out there just Hey! Hey! Hey! Load it up, fudge! You stay out of the way

If you're that old woman Welcome to the show, Stink says I'd love to walk Remember he told us one time that he walks into gyms, and then guys are doing bench, and he goes, can I get in with you guys or whatever? He goes, yeah. And he just reps out their max.

He just starts repping it out. And then he puts it down, and then he just walks away. I let him know that the gorilla just showed up. Such a meathead, dude. The best. All right, let's get to a break. Zach Hertz will be on the other side. He better look good.

Yeah, he better. Guests on this show are jacked. Yeah, always. You can't see it because of the way Sal's camera was, but Sal Capaccio? He's jacked. 14-pack. Yeah, jacked.

Chip Kelly, he's been squatting 500 pounds for the last 18 years. Power lifting. Yeah. In Ohio with Anthony Schlegel, I think is what I heard every morning. Is that what Schlegel is doing? Oh yeah, Schlegel's in there. He's the strength coach again? He's one of them, yeah. He's been back.

These Ohio State Buckeyes see the Michigan team beat them three times. Everyone's coming. You need a strength coach? You do. I've been watching. We do, yeah. We lost to Michigan. Blow a conch. I'm back. Lauren Knightis walks in there. You guys need strength coach? Yeah. You do. I've been watching. We do, yeah. We lost to Michigan, so. Blow a conch. I'm back. Lauren Knightus walks in there.

You guys need a coach? Well, you can be, you know, like the GA. I'm linebacker. No, yeah. We lost to Michigan three times. Why don't we? Okay. Okay.

Thank you. Heartline. Joey Galloway, heartline. Yeah. Everybody's just like, so what are we doing out here? Okay. That's great news. Everybody's seemingly. And Chip Kelly's a weapon. People forget that. Oh, what are we doing out here? Okay. That's great news. Everybody's seemingly.

And Chip Kelly's a weapon. People forget that. Oh, yeah. When you talk about offensive football. Jason Kelsey shouted him up for changing football forever in the NFL. It's like now that's. I played against him. I played against him Chip's first year in Philly.

Yeah. Talk about a week of practice where coaches were losing their mind. We're trying to practice a super quick tempo. Yeah, that went well. How about Chip saying, all the good calls are mine, all the bad ones are Ryan Day's. Sounds like Chip Kelly's calling the plays. Yeah, great answer.

Yeah, and I think Hartline, who's going to be a head coach, when, like next year? Probably whenever he decides to take a gig, I bet. And then Ryan Day, obviously, he's had a lot of success. I think he's like 50-3 or something like that. Yeah. Top three, though. I forget what his record is.

Like, they're all good. But I think that's like how football people view Chip, though. Like, I think there's a little bit of a difference between, like, you know, how some fans might view Chip Kelly versus, like, how football people seemingly view Chip. It's like, oh, yeah, change football. Yep. Probably want to have that guy's brain around. Sports!

What's all about? Sports is the greatest thing on earth. That's A.J. Hawk. The Talks at the Table is here. I'm Pastor Connor and that's Ty Schmidt. One after the hammer. Die! Cowboys' Tony Diggs is here.

And there's some breaking news seemingly over the last few hours on the internet. Chris Jones posted a tweet that had a screenshot of a phone call that was lasting an hour and a photo of Andy Reid tackling Chris Jones after they won the most recent Super Bowl. So up there at the top it says one hour green phone. So unless he's just... There are people that do that. They're just on the phone

with people and they're not talking or anything. They're just kind of walking through life. I didn't know that. I had no idea that was happening until I ran into one of these people.'re like yeah just i was hanging out they're here yeah what do you mean who is a little weird what are you talking about somebody that they're they're just like hang i don't i walked into a conversation and somebody said something through somebody and i just met these group of people I'm pretty good with names a name was mentioned that was not in the circle but I didn't fully know because I just met these people right

we go through conversation call person I thought was potentially that person by the name they go no here and I go who it was just somebody that was just hanging out with my buddy yeah was it a meeting no it was like at uh like a like at a... Like a hangout? Like a hangout, yeah. I don't know what was going on. I didn't know if it was like a situation where the guy wasn't able to make it or if they just do that.

It was a weird scene. But nonetheless, this just happened. Chris Jones, hour-long conversation. Tweeting a photo of Andy Rietz celebrating him. Looks like Chris Jones is back, just like he said drunkenly at the Kansas City Super Bowl parade before that ended in very devastating fashion and then obviously like. That's huge for the Kansas City Chiefs, A.J. Hawk.

Gigantic. The guy's an absolute disruptor, but he had to get a giant bag of cash, don't you think? I mean, to keep this guy around, like he is so, so valuable. I just know from speaking to opposing O-linemen how bad they despise playing the Chiefs because of Chris Jones. Yeah, and whenever they franchise tag Snead,s because of Chris Jones yeah and whenever they uh franchise tag Snead we knew that Chris Jones could potentially hit the market especially with how everything happened last year where he held out then he was at the game that he wasn't playing in hoping for a contract and the contract gets agreed to where it's pretty much the same as what it would have been with maybe a little extra incentive if they win a Super Bowl they did so he ends up getting

more money so I think they would consider it a success. But him going back to Kansas City whenever he drunkenly said it felt like more of a I want to be a part of something special type talk. I wonder what the number is. I wonder how they got to this point. I know the Katz brothers are negotiating the contract. They're great agents, good people, but they're also like

humans there as opposed to just like machines. I wonder what they agreed upon, what they didn't agree upon. But keeping a pillar like Chris Jones around, from his 40 all the way to this past Super Bowl, to his parade speech. Legend. And congrats to both parties. And sucks for everybody else. Sucks for everybody else.

Another signing happened. Ladies and gentlemen, the commander signed this guy. Tight end going into year 12, Super Bowl champion. Absolute stallion and stud. Always has a great fade. Always. Always has a great fade. He got mentioned in Jason Kelsey's retirement speech just the other day.

Ladies and gentlemen, Zach Ertz. Yeah, Zach. How are we? What's up, guys? How are you? We're doing well. How are you? Good.

We're doing well, man. I forgot you went to Stanford. I forgot you went to Stanford. I forgot you went to Stanford. We had Dalton Schultz on yesterday. Now we got Zach Ertz. This is becoming a Stanford tight end show all of a sudden. Kobe Fleener's on tomorrow. Kobe Fleener's on tomorrow.

Zach, congrats on the new deal with the Commanders. Obviously, everybody linked you and Cliff Kingsbury. Is that a big piece of this? What did you learn about the Commanders going forward? Because obviously, brand new chapter. Congratulations. Yeah, thank you. Obviously, Cliff has been a huge part of my success the past two years in Arizona.

And so when he got the job in Washington and I was a free agent, it was very easy for me to say, hey, this is a place that I would love to play for. They've essentially redone the entire building since when I first came into the league. New owner, new GM now, new head coach. And I've never heard anyone say a bad word about Dan Quinn. And so I'm extremely excited to play for him and get back on the East Coast. It's going to be fun. Hell yeah, man.

I think obviously Commanders fans have to be pretty excited about it all, about what the future could look like. You just laying out what you heard and your thoughts as somebody that's been introduced to this brand-new chapter, it's going to get some people jacked up. I think people are going to get a little zeked up over there about the future of the Commanders. Go ahead, AJ.

Zach, what does Cliff do specifically as an offensive play car? We hear people talk about the genius of what he is, and he spends 20 hours in the office studying everything and opponents and how to exploit them. What do you like that he does offensively? Yeah, obviously I was kind of raised in the West Coast system at Stanford with Coach Harbaugh and Coach Shaw, and then my first couple of years with Chip were so different,

and then Doug Peterson was completely different. But they all kind of had similar terminology. But when I got traded to Arizona years ago, I pretty much had to like put everything aside I knew about offensive terminology and kind of rewire my brain just because it is so different from what I was in for so long. But I think the thing that's unique about Cliff is that he doesn't care where a play comes from. He doesn't care if it's a high school football game. He's open to all ideas. There's no totem pole that the OC has to have all the ideas,

then the quarterback coach, and then the tight end coach. There's no pecking order with him. He's going to let all of his guys bring all these different game plan ideas. And he's going to get his guys the ball. That's one of the things he first told me when I got out there. He's like, hey, man, it doesn't matter if you're a receiver, tight end, running back, I'm going to get my guy touches. And so I'm excited about being back with him. Yeah, and whenever you got traded, was it traded?

No. Yeah, you traded. Yeah, when you got traded to Arizona, I remember it was a big deal because you were arizona yeah when you got trade arizona i remember it was a big deal because you're on a plane sitting next to kyler the relationship kind of like you know grew and uh you said the success you had arizona led to you and cliff kingsbury wanting to continue and the commanders will be excited about that alongside everything else but a lot of people remember you as philadelphia eagle oh yeah hey philadelphia eagle super bowl champion obviously a lot of moments and jason kelsey in his retirement speech the other day told a story about you and obviously jason kelsey

chose to shout out people like in the way that he did through his retirement speech obviously too many folks but learning that about you the story that he told was very cool and when you're watching along and listening alongside everybody else what are your thoughts and did your mind go back to those times in philly at all while jason was kind of going through all of this yeah i mean everyone knows how i feel about my time in philly uh our foundation is still doing amazing work back there um and so my love for philly will never change um so i just want to say that i don't know what the reception is going to be i'm all in in on the commanders, though, and so I'm excited about that. But obviously I played with Kels for nine years,

and just watching his speech, it probably took about four years for him to write that speech because he probably dissected it 10,000 different ways. And to hear him kind of go back through memory lane and tell stories about some of the things that I struggled with early in my career and some of the best memories of my career in Philly were just with Kels at the cafeteria table talking BS and after team meetings on Saturday nights. And so he was with me through a lot of tough times in Philly. And I think we helped each other along the way. And so seeing him go out and seeing that speech and how emotional he was,

I wasn't surprised. But, I mean, you could tell how much he loved that city, how much he loved the game. And obviously he's going out the way he wants to, because we all know he could still play another two, three, four years. Yeah, and you can obviously tell how much love he has for you too, because in the middle of it, while he's emotional, he talks shit on you. He goes, rightfully so.

Yeah, I noticed that, too. It was rightfully so. That was a tough day, obviously, for me, a tough week following that week, but it led to a lot of changes in my life, a lot of reflective moments. The city was killing me for a week. The media said I should never start another game for the Eagles. And in that city, you either got to put up or shut up, essentially. And I think I thrived from that moment on.

And so it definitely was a big, I would say, pivot point in my career there. I think that's what maturing is, is going through situations, adapting and evolving and learning from them. And, like, you never know what that situation is going to be that's going to thrust you into your best you know and boy like for me i got arrested you know for a public intoxication and it was like that was terrible i was not good enough to be the distraction that i was but that moment like i got killed by everybody it like changed my perspective on everything and i needed it almost but i assume in that week when you're getting murdered by everybody. It, like, changed my perspective on everything, and I needed it almost. But I assume in that week when you're getting murdered by everybody,

you did not see it that way because I did not. That was a tough time for – and I assume that week was the longest week of your life over there in Philly. And now, look, $5 million deal with commanders. Year 12. Year 12, Ertz. It all worked out. Hey, Con Man's got a question for you, brother.

Yeah, Zach, obviously in Philly, you know, you had Wentz and Foles, and then when you go to Arizona, you know, you got Kyler Murray. Going to Washington, is it a different feeling when, you know, there's so many questions with the quarterback position over there, or did Cliff Kingsbury already tell you, like, hey, we're going to trade up and get Caleb? Yeah, what are you guys doing? I have no inside information in regards to the quarterback situation.

I've played with a ton of different quarterbacks in my career, all different styles. My first game I played was with Michael Vick. So I played with a bunch of different quarterbacks and Cliff, what he's also really good at is making it easy for a quarterback. And so whether it's a guy at two or they trade up where they trade down, whether they sign a free agent, or Sam Howell plays. I honestly have no idea what their plan is at the quarterback position, but it's

my job to create as much separation as possible to make their job as easy as possible. I feel like that's what I've been able to do over the past 11 years of my career. It's something that I look forward to being able to do again in Washington. Just tell us that you know i have no inside information call cliff get him on the show man yeah right he's pretty i mean i heard all he does is just watch film pretty much and then go look incredibly cool and then go to that cool beach yeah bali or whatever yeah only on the other side thailand yeah yeah just and then come back and just watch film all day and then do something cool. Yeah, he loves ball.

He's a big lover of football and watching film, and he's all about scheming up ways to get his guys to ball. I think people, it's hard to believe for people. A.Q. Shipley was on our program, and he described Cliff Kingsbury, and he's like, this guy's a grinder, man. Like, he is in there 4 or 5 a.m. Yeah. Like, and he's there all the way. I don't think people think that because of how cool Cliff Kingsbury looks. Yeah, the house, man. He is in there 4 or 5 a.m. He's there all the way. I don't think

people think that because of how cool Cliff Kingsbury looks. The house, too. The picture on draft night with the whole thing. The guy looks too cool to be a grinder. Congrats to him. Just being the coolest guy of all time. He's got it all. And works his dick off.

Hey, you got it, baby. Cliff. Keep going, Cliff. Good luck out there, Cliff. Round of applause for Cliff. Yeah, hey, Cliff. Way to go, Cliff. Keep it going. Way to go, Cliff. You know, he did coach Caleb Williams in college.

That's right. Yeah, and I think that's why he was telling Zach Ertz. Okay. What he was doing in there. Don't you worry. We're making a move. It's either Caleb or we're going to bring back Tom freaking Brady. Oh, you ever heard of Kirk Cousins. You ever heard of Kirk Cousins?

You ever hear of Kirk Cousins? He likes walking back home. Oh, did you see what happened in Denver? Oh, isn't that interesting? Oh, Russell Wilson. Oh, I like him too. Look how cool he looks. You don't think to yourself, oh, that's like the hardest working human in football.

No, you don't. You don't think? Like, that is not what you. He looks tough out there. Yeah, well, he's running sprints back and forth. He's doing the Z. He's doing the snake sprints that's the right guy the backpedal forward yeah back yeah that's exactly you've been there is that what's going on is that what's going on in the back there yeah i mean he needs some freaking uh i'll say calf raises based on that picture

i mean he's thriving out there for sure i don't even know if he still has that place out here, but I'm sure he's going to have some sweet spot in Virginia. I've Zillowed in the Phoenix area. That house has been sold for so much money. I bet. Just so much money. That Zillow is a hot one. Tone's got a question for you, Zach.

Yeah, Zach, I think the Lions signed you the day after they won the divisional against the Bucs, and then if they would have held on, if you guys would have held on in the second half, would you have been playing in the Super Bowl? Do you know that or any? What the situation was there? Yep. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the plan was initially, obviously, to come in for a week and learn the playbook

and then have an opportunity to have a legitimate role in the Super Bowl. That would have been awesome. And so when we were up 24-10, and then obviously everyone knows what happened when we didn't finish the game, it was tough watching, man. I wanted to be out there. And I think just being out there, I love Detroit. I love Dan Campbell.

Steve Hyden is my guy, the tight end coach out there. Sam Laporte is a stud, man. So it was a lot of fun being out there, especially with all the drama that kind of happened in Arizona. It was great to kind of be back out there in a culture that was playing for NFC Championship. And so, yeah, the plan was to play in the Super Bowl, which would have been insane with everything that happened

in the past year and a half. Yeah, that would have been dope. Yeah, it would have been awesome. Yeah, that is like T.Y. Hilton signed in like week 12 or 13 with the Cowboys whenever they were going on a run. It was like, oh, that's a good – that feels like a good career there. We thought J.J. was going to – your friend, we thought J.J. Watt was going to do that this past year.

It was like, wait a minute. Is he going to – because he was still running. They said he was still running sprints and shit, J.J. He was still staying in shape. Are you surprised? He's a psycho, huh? Not as well as you, obviously. He's a psycho?

That's what I feel like. This guy is a psycho. Yeah, I mean, he trains hard still. He sends me pictures of the workout cars that he's doing. I don't even know who's making them for him all the time, but it's like sets of 20 on lunges, sets of 20 on squats. I'm like, bro, take a deep breath. Just one time.

One time do that. It is. But we thought he was going to do that. Do a run. You to sign and then just, what are we here? Oh, there's only a couple, a Super Bowl. Cool. I'm preparing for a Super Bowl. If I'm going to play here, I'm going to be playing and that's a perfect setup.

I mean, obviously you want to be with a team. You don't want everything else to take place. But, like, that's a – that's a pretty good setup. Go ahead, AJ. Zach, you mentioned, like, you played for a lot of great coaches through college and the NFL. Can you describe what it was like playing for Jim Harbaugh back in college? Oh, man, it was mental warfare for sure.

I mean, I was 18 years old. didn't know up from down at that point. And I was redshirt in that year, my first year at Stanford. And so it was the guy is the best motivator that you've ever been around. He would get under your skin for six days out of the week. And then on Saturdays, you'd want to run through a wall for the guy. And so he has your back more than anyone probably I've ever been around. He loves his players, and he's going to push them to get the absolute best out of them. I was only with him for two years. Obviously, my freshman and sophomore year, he left after we beat Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl here, you know, beat Virginia Tech or other side, other side. That's all right.

It's all about Stanford. Yeah, exactly. But I loved playing for him. He was perfect for me when I was 18, 19, and I definitely wouldn't have been the player or had the career I had without him. Every story about him is hilarious, it seems like, you know, like every single one.

Too many stories. They're saying this guy was in a cold tub, full khakis, polo, socks, and shoes or something. That was the story that was told at the combine. Have you heard the story about his hatred for chicken, essentially? No, no. He's come all the way back around. He has, huh?

Yes. He's in on chicken. He owns them now. Yeah, he said high production, low maintenance. He said, I was wrong. I was wrong about these chickens. I used to say scared bird, low maintenance. He said, I was wrong. I was wrong about these chickens. I used to say, scared bird, nervous bird, don't want it.

Don't be eating anything that's nervous. You don't need any more of that. You need to be great or whatever. I don't like the chickens at all. He has chickens at his house. They're his pets. I think he said, we get like a dozen eggs every other day. High production, low maintenance. I completely flipped on these things.

And that's probably Harbaugh right there saying, hey, Zach, I love these chickens. You need to get some chickens. Zach, we appreciate your time, man. What was your major in Stanford? It was called management science and engineering, essentially industrial engineering. But one more Harbaugh story. I can't leave without giving a Harbaugh story. This guy says he willed

himself to be in 6'4 by hanging on the monkey bars every day and drinking whole milk. That was his secret to success. Hanging on the monkey bars and drinking whole milk.

Believes it, too. Oh, yeah. That's the only reason I'm 6'4". Believes it, too. When he was a kid, they were all going somewhere. He was hanging. What a legend. I'm so happy he's back in the NFL. Yes.

Hey, let's pivot away from the NFL. Did you watch the U.S. Women's National Team in the CONCCAFA Global Super Champ last night against Canada in that wet game. And what were your thoughts on it? How did the family react to it? Yeah, we stayed up until about 11.30 watching this game. And it was in the first half when they scored the goal, it was like insane that the ball just essentially stopped from the back kick or the pass back to the goalie.

So we were definitely fortunate on that. And then we gave the goal in the second half. Then we watched extra time. Didn't know what was going to happen. The last kick of the game, they scored the PK to make it 2-2 to send it to penalty kicks. And then Alyssa Nair dominated. So it was fun. It was fun to watch.

Obviously, Julie's not a part of the team now. We got a little boy, so it's fun around here this time of year. But I think we're still definitely vested in the U.S. Women's National Team. Yeah, I'd assume there's a lot of pride with that, like an alumni of a team. You know, you would obviously want it to continue to go. Are we going to, are we still the best? I don't know. Well, we're the best, right? We're better than everybody? I mean, that's the American motto, right? Do we ever say

it otherwise? Amen. I was starting to think that maybe you were taking a low shot at us, but why not? Yeah, we are. Never. That was all American pride. MLS, best league in the world. That's right, bar none.

Best player in the world. Best player in the world in MLS. Who voted on it? Who voted on the best league in the world. That's right, bar none. Best player in the world. Best player in the world in the MLS. Who voted on it? Who voted on the best player in the world? Not me. No. I didn't vote. Me neither.

Did you vote on it? Nope. AJ? Everyone else did. Nope. I don't think any American. No, not the world's award. Yeah, that's on the other side of the pond.

What's it called? The Balloon Door. The Balloon Door. Yep. Go. Oui, oui. Balloon Door. The Balloon Door. Go. Oui, oui. Balloon Door. Leo Messi.

MLS. In our league. Wait, our league. Bingo. Luis Suarez. Bingo. Come on. Oh, my God.

And our women obviously always been the best. Yeah. Do you know what these tournaments are, though? They all seem to be made up, but we want to win all of them. Yeah, man. I don't really know. thought the gold cup was north america only and then i think brazil's on the other side playing mexico so i don't know who won the game but so i don't really know where these tournaments are coming from these days so gumpy what's going on it's a load of crap why is it happening yeah like i said they're just letting random teams enter these

turns like the usa is hosting Copa America. They've never been in that tournament before. It's awesome. They want to test their teams against the best teams. What's Copa America? Uruguay, Brazil, Argentina. South and Central? Yeah, USA is in the group with Uruguay,

so it should be a good test. Messi's playing for us. No, he's on Argentina. He's on Argentina. Messi's playing for us. No, he's on Argentina. What? He's on Argentina. That's playing for us. All right. How's that work? I don't know.

That's ridiculous. I don't know what the deal is. This is disgusting. Messi and Pulisic? I watched that documentary. Everything's corrupt over there. It is. Messi's on the American team.

I thought he was changing his name to Lou Messi. Come on. All right, Zach. Good luck with the commanders, buddy. Appreciate you guys. Always here for you if you ever need me. It's been fun. Absolutely.

Ladies and gentlemen, Zach Hertz. So nobody knows. That guy's married to a World Cup champion. They don't even fully know. So nobody knows what's going on. That makes me feel much better. Yeah, me too. Gump, why is he like that?

I actually do not know. So growing up, you just sign up to go to tournaments. You get anyone you want if you qualify. This all started with Qatar being in the concave for that one year. But they were in that because they were in the World Cup because they were hosting the World Cup, and the World Cup because they were hosting the World Cup and the host always gets a team in the World Cup. Yeah, so is this like the U.S. is now in the Copa America

because they're in the 2026 World Cup? Oh, yeah, so USA and Mexico don't have to qualify. So these other teams have to come in and qualify. Canada, USA, and Mexico are all in 2026. Yeah, that counts. How is Canada's team? Pretty good? USA and Mexico are all in 2026. Yeah, that counts. Each Mexico and Canada won. How is Canada's team? Pretty good?

No. We're better than we've been, but not that great. Have they ever had a squad? The best team we had was the last World Cup. First time we've been in the World Cup since 86. The Canadian women's team, though, good, right? They are not as good as they used to be either. Oh, used to be very good, though.

Yeah, yeah. Way better than they are now. Yeah, I'm sure they were. I mean, what are we talking about? United States women has just been beating the fuck out of Canada for years. Canada literally won the tournament. Like, how many? Which tournament? Which one? Which tournament, Gil?

Was it the World Cup or the Olympics? The Canadian Nation's title. Okay, well let's talk about curling then. You remember that? It was literally at the old office. Don't act like they never won nothing. I don't remember. Yeah, you're talking about curling. Yeah, obvious, of course not. We beat you in curling, remember?

We did. What are you talking about? One time in the last 200 years. For what? Curling? USA beat Canada in curling once the last 200 years. I didn't hear that, what you said at the end. It broke up.

The U.S. beat who in what? Is Mike up low? Oh, my God. Oh, what's that? Curling is your guys' sport. Curling. We've been curling for six months, and we beat Canada. That's soccer. Jared Allen.

Jared Allen. Women's soccer. U.S. leads the all-time series. 53 wins, 7 draws, 4 losses in U.S. women's soccer versus Canada and has won 6 of the last 7 meetings between the teams, including a 2-0 victory in the most recent matchup at the 2023 She Believes Cup. I haven't heard you mention that cup one time. I haven't heard you mention that one one time. That's the most important one.

She Believes Cup. Yeah, I don't think That's the most important one. She believes cup. Yeah, I don't think that's the most important one. The World Cup. The World Cup and the Olympics are the most important. Call Zach Ertz back and ask him. He would know. The Olympic and the World Cup are more important than that. She believes that we will win.

She believes that we will win. Can you run the opening intro real quick just so people are reminded about this? Please. God, please. About the She Believes Cup. Boom. The following program is a collection of students talking about happenings in the sports world. It is meant to be comedic informative.

The opinions expressed on this show do not necessarily reflect the beliefs of their peers, their boss, or ESPN. There may be some cuss words because that's how humans in the real world talk. If you are young, please seek permission before watching any further. Okay, perfect. That was Gumpy talking about the She Believes Cup, not any of us. You can ask anybody who plays. That is the truth.

If it was the He Believes, could you imagine? Oh, yeah. It would still be the World Cup and the Euros in the Copa America. Didn't that one player on the U.S. women's team come up with the She Believes Cup? Yeah, ask AJ. Ask AJ about that. Yeah, AJ, who's the She Believes Cup? I've blacked out a long time ago.

What are you talking about? We just did the intro. How many different tournaments can Gump talk about and act like he knows what he's talking about? He does. I answer every question about him. knows what he's talking about? He does. I answer every question about him. What do you want from me? They just edit the caribou. But how do you keep track?

How does anyone set a schedule when you're playing? Do these guys have a schedule like six months out? Because there's international breaks. Okay. What you're saying is it might as well be a different language. Well, you don't listen. You just keep talking instead of listening to what I'm saying. That might be right. You ask questions, you don't listen. You just keep talking instead of listening to what I'm saying. Maybe that might be right.

You ask questions, then you don't listen to the answer. Well, in our defense though, like... International Cup's not an answer to me. It feels like you withhold information sometimes. We have to ask the question to get the answer and it sounds like we have no idea what we need to be asking questions about.

We just learned about the She Believes Cup. We've been talking about it for six years. You're bad guys. You just learned about it. You're supposed to teach us. Yeah, you're supposed to tell us. I've been talking about She Believes Cup for years. You never listen.

You've never mentioned the She Believes Cup. I was talking about She Believes Cup years ago. AJ, the international break is when the players go back and play for their countries. So all the club teams club teams take a break. The international teams in the international breaks, they play in the Copa, in the Concava, in the Europes, and

everything else. Those tournaments are happening. Then the Champions League and all that, the Premier League, La Liga, Bundesliga, Super... Syria. What's the best league? Where do you want to be playing?

MLS. That's layup. Top competition. It's on top. MLS, number one. Above Champions League. These are all those leagues where all the international players, because they're representing their countries, go and play for it.

Because that is the NFL. How long is the international break? International break is always two weeks and that's just for qualifiers and stuff. So when you get to the summer and the domestic leagues are done, that's when the Euros are. That's when the World Cup is. That's the problem.

That's why I don't bother. What's that all about, Gump? You tell me. I just snored into the mic. Every time I say anything about the fucking beautiful game, that's what happens. He's stupid American. I nodded off. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to.

You had two cups of coffee today. I know. I'm actually wired. What? You just got a heavy breath there? No, I fell asleep because we're talking about all this bullshit that is boring as hell. What about the United States team? We're winning it all. Well, yeah.

Duh. And MLS is the best team. But what are we winning? We're not winning the Concave anymore. We're winning the Copa. We're winning trophies. Why don't we play in the US? If USA wins the Copa America, that will be massive. Forget about the titles of the tournaments. We're winning trophies. Okay? It doesn't matter what it's called.

If there's a ball on the pitch, we're going out there and we're putting that ball in the net. I agree. Last question from me, and I'm not happy about it. Messi's not playing for America? I don't like that. I thought that was part of the deal. That's why he came over here. This is corrupt FIFA.

Just not letting the guys play for our team that we should be having. What's the deal? Isn't that guy like Miami now? They're canceling spring break because he's down there. Yeah, and tonight. Messi's Miami. This was a hell of a pass right here. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, he's a good player. Jordi Alba. So does Messi just – Is Messi either walking or sprinting when he plays soccer? Or just standing. He does a lot of this, actually. He does a lot of – And from what I gathered from watching internet videos,

his security guard is very happy when Messi chooses just to stand. That's absurd. Because he is sprinting the entire field to be the – It's crazy. It's like I'll put my – I'll put the baby McKenzie on the island in our kitchen or whatever, and, like, I'm walking the – Oh, yeah. I'm playing defense.

This guy's doing that for a full soccer field for Messi, just kind of chasing him alongside. But Messi is the most chill, I think, superstar I've ever seen, the guy that just dominates. Ruud van Nistelrooy used to chill and score goals as well. But Messi's everywhere. Yeah, that's his security guard. Think of the awareness you've got to have to not run into people 50 times a game.

Also, how about everybody that's at the game on the sidelines? Yeah, that's normal. game on the sidelines? Like, yeah, that's normal. That's Messi's guy sprinting around. Does this guy have a free pass? Like, hey, if someone comes on the field, I am taking the guy down. This guy has like 275 confirmed kills. Like, no one is messing with this guy.

We don't know if that's confirmed, but we're just saying that would feel like that's what that person would be. I saw a photo of his face. You look in those eyes, a lot of kills. He's got to be more fit than messy because he's running further. He's got to be a sicker fuck than boom. Yeah, that guy's a dog. Yeah. That guy's an absolute beast.

He's smiling, but you can see it. His eyes aren't smiling. Think about his cardio. That guy's never smoked anything in his life. Nope. Ever. Never smoked anything. Just people.

That's right. Well said. Bad people. Bad people. Yes. Not good people. Just people. That's right. Well said. Bad people. Bad people, yes. Not good people. Obviously for a good cause. For something good he was doing. That's correct. Always.

Let's talk about something that happened in the football world that is disgusting. I thought we held in high regard rivalries. And like, you know, something meaning a little bit more maybe. Of course. Chicago Bears head coach sharing popcorn with Green Bay Packers head coach. Excuse me? Sharing popcorn.

What? Add that to the list of things that are wrong with America when I talked to Sal. They're sharing popcorn at this Marquette. What? They're having popcorn and cookies. You can't say they're sharing it. No, they are. I'm guaranteeing that he put his left hand

Eberflug's looks really cool, by the way. He does. He looks fucking awesome. I do have sources that he snagged that popcorn right out of his hands. That's mine now. No, I don't think so. And your eyebrows suck. Eyebrows look good. LaFleur did one of these.

Hey, you want a popcorn? And LaFleur said, yeah. Yeah, he reached over. And then LaFleur did that. Just fuck him with you. No way. No, he waited. It was just all kernels and bullshit at the bottom.

Gotcha, bitch. I remember Packers-Bears, big rivalry. Yeah, except the Bears never fucking win. So how big of a rivalry is it? Used to be. LaFleur just took a shot at the Bears like a week and a half ago and they got Sean Mannion to come on the staff.

Apparently we have more to offer than the Bears do. Oh, so you think Ibraflu said, we're going to have a little sit down. Don't be saying what you're saying. You think Ibraflu is potentially telling LaFleur, I heard what you said. Don't do that. I think he's probably just like, hey, don't make me look like

a fucking asshole in front of my daughter, please. Okay, but she's here on a college visit. Just be cool. Hey, Matt, nice to see you. That'd be great. What was Matt LaFleur there for? He's just a big Marquette fan? Not too far from it. Yeah. Something to do. I like your angle, though.

This is probably like when Tony went and met Johnny Sachs in New York just to meet the family and say, hey, if you don't deliver me a fucking cousin, I'm going to kill your whole family. Bring a shitstorm down on you like you have never fucking seen. I mean, maybe. There's a chance that that happens.

MCDC's not doing that shit. No chance. That's why he's winning the division. Yes. Thank you. He ain't going to Detroit Mercy games. These two are playing for second. I like that they got good camaraderie.

Good competitive banter. Yeah, I could care less. He looks cool. Very cool. The floor looks cool, too. He does. If they got in a fight, it would really do a lot to juice up the rivalry. It would.

That's what I'm saying. Right there, we get a little popcorn problem. Oh, that'd be great. There is no rivalry. There is a rivalry. Chicago. We're in the same division. AJ just saw Erlacher at the Super Bowl and spit in his face.

I saw it. Thank you for doing that. Keeping rivalries alive. I would not do that to the great Brian Erlacher. Ever. You know that. I didn't see him. You guys saw him?

No, no, no. But for the story and the rivalry. I did see his guy. His guy was on Theo Vaughn. That's who that was? Yes. Okay, so that showed up in my – because Theo Vaughn. I talked to him at the Super Bowl.

I will watch a Theo Vaughn video if it pops up. Oh, he's awesome. I will watch. Just how is this guy's brain going to go through this one? Excited to watch it. He was talking to somebody that looked familiar. That was Erlacher's guy. Okay, so I did see that.

I did see that. You saw Erlacher at Super Bowl? No, I saw his guy and talked to him. The border guy. Was Erlacher there? It didn't seem like I don't think he was. He was there. He sure rode his bike up there. Didn't he ride his bike like 12,000 miles or something like that? Every year, yeah. Lives in Arizona.

From Arizona. He could have rode over. What an animal. Dog. I think it's, did his kid just commit? Yeah, to Notre Dame, I think. Nice. Alright, congrats, young Urlacher. Urlacher has gone into politics a little bit.

No. Yeah, and he's hanging out with Border Patrol agents. I heard Aaron was on a podcast today that came out, and he talked about everything. Really? Aaron was on a podcast? What podcast? Yeah, there was a tweet.

I don't know what the podcast is, but there was a tweet of everything that he talked about. Was he talking about being an archer where he's wearing a ghillie suit in the backyard in Malibu? I saw the list. I'm just glad he decided to do it on there and not here. Oh, really? Mm-hmm.

Thank you. Thank you, Alex. I only saw the moment where he was talking about play action to Jordy Nelson. I did see that one. That's all I saw. What did he say? He was just like, God, it was so fucking sick throwing deep balls to Jordy Nelson. He was on with Eddie Bravo.

Did you just look that up that quick? Is that what you do over there? Is that what your eyes are doing over there when you got a little crazy eyes there? Right now. No, when you said that, it made me wonder who it was. Yeah, if he went on with Eddie Bravo, Eddie Bravo is not scared to dive into conspiracies. Eddie's a big football fan. First hour was all regular football talk.

Then NFL policy talk. The next two hours included mentions or discussions of the following. Election fraud, the real Anthony Fauci, German theory versus terrain theory, the Great Awakening, U.S. border, weekend Bernie's, Joe Biden, Operation Northwoods, we were in that fire.

Operation Paperclip, Klaus Schwab, of course, George Soros, Trump, New York City, fine, RFK, who Rogers is supporting, by the way. He was hiking. JFK assassination, New York City, fine. RFK, who Rogers is supporting, by the way. He was hiking. JFK assassination, Tartaria, Egyptology, Rockefeller influence on history and education, of course.

Gotta talk about that. Ancient giant tree. Yeah, what? Ancient giant tree. AJ, are you going to listen to this? Tesla, Library of Alexandria. That's not the end. Where did the ancient giant trees go?

Oh, man. I haven't heard the ancient giant trees combo in a while. Yeah, I can't wait to listen. That dude hits a hole-in-one, becomes an Olympian in archery, hikes a mountain with a presidential candidate, and then goes on with Eddie Bravo and talks about everything that has ever been chatted about on the internet. People are like,

how would you describe Aaron Rodgers? One of one, bro. One of one. I'm sure he's going to throw the football really well for the Jets next year, though. Are you surprised only two hours? Of that? He must have just lumped a couple of those together.

I don't know. To be clear, a lot of those words were, I did not fully understand what they were, but boy, I liked that they had titles. Yeah. I liked that they were titles and that there were people that as soon as they heard, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Listen to this. Egyptology? Yeah. Ancient giant trees? Wait until... Don't people under podcast do that? They put the times of each conversation? I think we have...

Just the guess. Yeah, three hours is a long time, though. Hey, Aaron. I'll be excited to see when he's throwing. When do you think he's back? I can't believe they did a full hour about football. NFL policy talk. You heard that.

That was probably. Yeah. We got changes. Listen to this. I wasn't allowed to go to a Halloween party. Yep. Draconian rules. It's bullshit.

Right. Said that a couple times. I'm excited. But I did hear that he was in a ghillie suit in his backyard in Malibu. Yep. Yep. And he had his bow and arrow shooting down to the... He's crawling around?

No, I think he was just standing on the corner on the top of his neck. In the ghillie suit. Yeah, like this. You could see him clearly, but... Neighbor was like, dude. What are you doing? Tom Brady used to always practice in a helmet and shoulder pads because that's what you play in.

So Aaron, obviously, in a ghillie suit all the time because that's what he's going to be playing in. Yeah. He even had it all the way down his arm, obviously, and his hands were even painted. Yep. His hands were painted. The whole thing.

Face as well. He's probably – that does seem like something. The archery, whenever I saw it, like he would be – Oh, yeah. Yeah, pretty damn good at that. That would be something that he would be very, probably incredible. I would assume he'd be very good at that particular thing. I think he tried throwing the arrow first.

Let me see here. Javelin. Hold on. Shoot. Remember when Rogan asked Elon if he could shoot an arrow at the Cybertruck after Elon said a bullet couldn't go through? I bet I'd get an arrow through that thing. So they do that, and obviously it worked or whatever.

I don't think it can turn really well or be utilized that efficiently, but if somebody's hunting you with an arrow, I think you're okay in that Cybertruck. Imagine Aaron going, hey, Elon, maybe I can throw one through here. What a guy. That's your best friend. That's amazing. I mean, that podcast is going to be fun to listen to, I think.

What a one-of-one. Like, that needs to be whenever there's documentaries about him. I'm excited to hear people try to explain him, you know, and who he is. It's like, you just put me in a box. Well, guess what? I'm out of that box already. I'm in another box. I'm in this box. I'm in this box just because you said I'm not in this box. Nice what andy i'm out of that box already i'm in another box i'm in this box

i'm in this box just because you said i'm not in this box nice try how you doing good to see you all the time in the box and he reads like just like right isn't that like his hobby his hobby is reading things like that is literally yeah very curious very curious and then he could jam on a guitar yeah just never ends with this guy. What if he's handpanned? He was good. I think he's probably... He's absolutely handpanned. Handpanned. Oh, yeah. Jordan Poyer's wowed the release

there. I mean, I guess we should have potentially seen it coming after what happened last year with the whole free agency thing. But, like, Mitch Morris, gone. Like, he's a staple up there. That's brutal. And Ultra Davis White, gone. Mike is a free agent. Like, he wasn't cut, but Mike was a staple. Did they ask any of them to take a cut, you think?

Did they ask any other guys to take a pay cut? I wonder. I don't know. I do wonder that. I don't even know if that would help that much. Like, they did all that, and they're still over the cap. Yeah, eight teams still over the salary cap limit. They have to be under by next Wednesday at 4 4 p.m eastern standard time there's gonna be

a lot of hard moves made in a lot of different teams in a lot of cities and this is when if you got paid a big contract a couple years ago yeah it's not necessarily the best time to have that i remember the first time i went out to nfl network uh to do nfl am which is the former morning show that was on NFL Network before Good Morning Football, but it was hosted in LA. Call time, 2 AM. It was live 6 to 10 on Eastern

Standard Time, so you just do some math there. Three hours, four hours. You're doing that in LA. They're doing that again, I think, with Good Morning Football. They're moving Good Morning Football back to LA, which they're going to have access to phenomenal studios. That new NFL-owned studio set up outside of SoFi is beautiful. But those hours are going to be wild.

The Schrags and all them, my bad, they've got to move. That's what Brant said this morning, I guess, on Good Morning Football. We'd like to let him know, like, we appreciate your dedication there, James. Hell yeah. But I went out there, and that was like that was like my first ever production meeting or whatever. And I forget what GMs, there's two ex-GMs in the room and they're on NFL Network at the time. That kind of easy come, easy go.

All the people that used to work in the NFL were on NFL Network at some point. And they were just looking at basically how much somebody's being paid. And then they were just judging how their year was the year before. What's your first thought on this player? I didn't have that good of a year.

Okay, gone. Like the way they were, it was a cap casualty segment pretty much. And the way that they were talking about it as people that used to make these moves was like, damn, that was like an eye opener to me. It's like, if you get paid the big money, at quarterback, obviously they're going to have to live with it unless they decide not to, like in Denver. But if you get paid big money at any position

in comparison to every other player at your position, you need to live up to it. Or you are the first one smoking out of town, even though just a year ago or two years ago, you were the most highly sought-after person by the same exact organization. It's wild, but this is exactly what this week is all about

pretty much, AJ. Yeah, and players should have some kind of heads up or idea. You know if you have a big cap number about to hit the team and your team has to do some stuff to get under it, like you shouldn't be shocked by it, I don't think. At this stage, but whenever you're negotiating the deal, they're like, yeah, let's, yeah, I'll take that. Yeah, that's a good deal. Give me that, give me that, give me that. And then a couple years in, it's like, oh no, oh, I'll take that. Yeah, that's a good deal. Give me that, give me that, give me that. And then you're a couple years in, and it's like, oh, no. Oh, no. I am dead.

I thought about that whenever I negotiated my deal, because a punter, listen, we don't need to be wasting, we don't need to be wasting any dollars on a punter here. Let's make sure if I have a couple bad games, I'm not just getting fucking cut immediately. Right in the middle. My salary cap, let's go ahead and do that. That was a strategy.

But so everybody that tries to break the bank and do it and do it and do it and have earned it and everything like that, unless you're like the guy, they're going to run you out of town quick. And that's a bummer. Yeah, it sucks. And like the $8 million or whatever, we were talking about how many draft picks they have. They have 10 or 11 draft picks.

Once they get the comp pick, how much money, rather, space do you need for all those picks? Yeah, what is the number just because it's all slotted yeah yeah as much as it used to be right yeah because it's all because it used to be able to be negotiated and move especially for them their bottom of each round how about caleb williams not using an agent yeah he said he has lawyers and his family will help out but like with the way the nflpa and the nfl have agreed on the draft picks being slotted at a salary, it's like saving. Pay a lawyer hourly to do your deal.

Yeah, instead of the percentage. NFL agents are only allowed up to 3%. Those are negotiated down sometimes to 1.5%, 2%. But still, you get to save. It doesn't seem like a lot, but when you're talking about millions and millions of dollars. 1%, 2% kind of adds up over time. Yeah, absolutely. How about the 180 on Caleb? Pretty awesome.

Yeah, seemingly. Yeah, good for the league. Great. And he's going to the NFC, so I really don't care. What the commander's like. Yeah. You're launching a team? Yeah.

You know? Yeah. It's from there. They've done it before. The Bears are taking him, aren't they? That's what everybody's saying. Unless they get a King's ransom. They put up during the combine what a potential trade

from two to one would look like. It was a lot. It was a lot of stuff. It was a lot of stuff. And that particular organization has done this in the past. To move up, to get a quarterback. And paid for it for a bit. But if you're trying to build a brand and a team, hometown guy who is electrifying to watch play football, and seemingly every time he talks, people like him more, that's good for business as well.

It's like, that's not a bad way. I bet you there are some very hard discussions happening with the commanders right now. Now, I think Dan Orlovsky said after watching the film jayden is his guy yep over caleb number one yeah i think that's what dan orlovsky said on rich he said i think he said on rich eisen we should call her los keys golfing right now right yeah i think stream song 36. just the last day yeah has to be how many more days can you just walk what is that 15 miles probably so yeah jayden is number one i think so yeah i think i saw a clip from him on rich but he's going to drop to three so we're gonna have to work

no he's gonna just hanging out waiting huh he's going You guys are just hanging out waiting, huh? He's going to the gym. Dano! What's up, buddy? Congrats on finishing your golf trip. Way to go. Way to go, Dan.

Hey, it was a banger. Did you expect to see that? Holy shit. What up, boys? David Coonan! David Coonan! Coonan, we're live. Coonan, we are live right now. We are live on the air right now.

Okay? You know that. We know that. Coonan, we are live. Ohin, we are live right now. We are live on the air right now. Okay? You know that. We know that. Kunin, we are live. Oh, I did not know that. Yeah. Yeah, Kunin. You should know that, Kunin.

Classic Kunin. You should know that, Kunin. Dipshit. Kind of in your world, Kunin. Dan, hey, we saw a clip on the internet. I think you were on Rich. Jaden above Caleb is your number one quarterback after watching the film. Is that accurate?

I would take Jaden one, yes, over Caleb, yes. Is that from film study, interview? What is it from? I've never interviewed on him. That's just tape for me. Okay, is there like for the Chicago Bears or for any team? I would have as the number one quarterback. So whoever's taking one and taking quarterback, I would take him.

So, yes, Chicago, I would take Jaden. Will that change by draft time, you think, after like pro days and everything like that? I don't think so. I don't think so. You know, I don't get this chance to spend time with all those dudes, but I don't think so. I think Jaden, I think Caleb's really good.

I just think Jaden does stuff within the pocket better, more consistently, and I think he's a better natural thrower. His highlights are absurd. All right, safe travels home. Tell Coonan we said what's up. Thanks, buddy. You're the best, man.

You're the best, yeah. So, and he can run. Like, not that Caleb can't. I'm saying Caleb can run. He can run. He's a different, yeah. He'll run. I wonder if he'll run. Right here, this play right here. I'm saying Caleb can run. It's a different run. He'll run. I wonder if he'll run.

Right here. This play right here. He's a skirt. Everybody. Skirt. Skirt. Wait, he was the first player to throw for 300, run for 200 in a game? Again, it was this game.

It was this game. I mean. New England, baby. Dan Roelofsky saying New England. What's that? Three? What's his dims? He looks tall, right, doesn't he?

I think he got measured at the combine. Let me look. Yeah, I thought he was the. Look at that, dude. That's, you know, in a new NFL. Can't teach that. Yeah, the ability to be able to do that is welcomed a lot more. Now, granted, can't take hits.

I assume he's smart about that. Dan Roelofsky, after watching film, says in the pocket he does better stuff. Not even like this stuff. In the pocket. He did not get measured at the Colts. Yeah, I was going to say, he also took a lot of big shots. There's a play where he's actually, he tries to jump over an E-lineman, and he gets fucking drilled.

That's good. Goes to his toughness. Exactly. He had neighbors, right? People are saying he's the number one. Neighbors and Brian Thomas are both going to be first-rounders probably. But he got drilled. The Alabama game we were watching right here, he got drilled by –

what's his name who's going to be a first-rounder for Bama? DJ. Dallas Turner. Dallas Turner. There it is. And he came in, what, one play later? Like, he's a tough son of a bitch. Yeah, the NFL, though. No, no, I know.

You're going to have to not take those. I'm pumped for that. That's a whole other storyline here because Dan's going to be put on TV. Oh, yeah. That's why I asked him if he's going to change. He said, I don't think so. It's like that's going to get loud then, especially around day, two days before draft day.

It's going to heat up. And also another quarterback guy, Chris Sims has Drake May as the worst quarterback. He's six overall. Under Pennix. Under Pennix, under Bo Nix, under J.J. McCarthy. He's got tiers. He has Caleb and Jaden up top. Caleb's

his own tier. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Then below that tier is Jaden. And then J.J., Bo Nix, and Pennix, and then Drake May. J.J. above him, too? Mm-hmm. How about that? Louis Riddick said he was hearing that J.J. could sneak into the top five,

especially with what people were saying about his meeting and all that stuff. Both the Vikings and the Broncos potentially taking J.J. How about Drake May? He should have threw. He should have. Should have thrown. A thousand percent. Should have thrown.

Like when everybody else didn't. Now, granted, none of this matters. He should have. Should have thrown. A thousand percent. Should have thrown. Like when everybody else didn't. Now granted, none of this matters. Nope. No. Okay. None of the fodder seemingly matters, especially whenever it comes draft night to the decision makers, even though they might be thinking the same thing we're thinking. They could be completely different, but it's like, just throw.

Like what do we, he had the opportunity too, because the other two declared early that they weren't going to, Jaden and Caleb declared early they weren't going to throw. So he goes, oh, yeah, I am going to throw. It's like, all right, here we go. He's going to end up in New England. Drake? Yeah. At three?

For sure. And you will be pumped about that, depending upon how he plays. I'll be hopeful, yeah. I mean, again, it's like, hey, I'll be very pumped, and I'll act like we won the Super Bowl. But, I mean, you don't know for so long. For so fucking long. Look what happened with Trevor Lawrence. It was an entire

year of 1-2-14 with a 2-15. Anybody be patient enough. Exactly. Now everyone's going to expect, if you get a guy in the top five, to come in and do what C.J. Stroud did last year, too. C.J. Stroud throwing at last year's

combine was very fresh on my mind whenever I was learning about all these people not throwing. And then CJ has the best rookie year in the history of rookie quarterbacking. It's like, if you could spin it, just go spin it. Like, you know, CJ proved that it does not matter. But I guess if there's a lot of question marks, you want to be in a much more controlled environment for your business at stake. Drake May is beloved by his teammates. He's very loyal to North Carolina, which I think is a good trait to have as your starting quarterback.

He can throw great balls. What D-Bud said about him and his family. Yeah, they talk shit, very competitive family. He's big. It's like all the upside. All it takes is one person to be like, yeah, I like this guy. That's all it takes in the draft. We talk about in theory

and measurements and all that. All it takes is one fucking human being like, no, I like this one better than the other one. That's what we're doing. And then who knows? But he has it all, seemingly. Him not throwing, though, made me think, like, does he dot his arm?

And it's like, people that are around him are like, no, I can spin it. Yeah, who around him said, hey, no matter what. He probably said, hey, the risk reward isn't worth it. Caleb's not throwing. Jane's not throwing. Which is exactly why he should throw. Well, that's what some people would say.

An agent said, just wait until pro day. And we're here in pro days now. Yeah. Big song and dance. It's like almost just another combine. Descripted like 30 throws from whoever your guru is. It's basically a show.

It's like a show, which is good, I guess, if you're, you know. Anyone going to wear shoulder pads and a helmet like old Johnny Football did back in the day? That'd be awesome. Hey, he's been telling his stories a lot more. Yep. Feels like Johnny's feeling better about it. Like the human he is. Doesn't it?

Yeah. Doesn't it feel like that? Mm-hmm. Congrats. Hope you're happy, Johnny. Baby John. You gave us years of entertainment, Johnny. You gave us years of entertainment.

Great. Obviously. Did that bar open up? Remember he had a bar open up. Shop bar. Yeah. What's that? What is a? Remember he had a bar open up. Shot bar. Yeah. What is a shot bar again? I don't remember. I thought it was like a bunch of

different type of shots and it's right on the corner in College Station. How is that different from a regular bar who also has a bunch of different kind of shots? Is it Johnny Football's bar or is it not? He told us it's a shot bar.

Like that's a type of bar, which I'm not familiar with. It's like live betting and lightning bets. I'm not sure if you recall that whole situation. It's kind of similar. What's that? We're just saying the same thing? Yeah, except one of them is much cooler because it is that type of bar. A shot bar does sound cool.

So you have better bartenders drink all mixologists so they know more things they can make i'm sure what is the shop bar agent you don't shots are usually straight well we're not oh no they may do cool concoctions and shit you ever seen bar i was thinking it was like you know kilroy's downtown and bloomington they got that big wall of all those drinks. There's like 100 different combinations. Long Island. Yeah, stuff like that.

That's what I assumed it was. Yeah, me too. So full bar. Full bar. See, in my head, it was like six feet deep. Kind of small. Like a sub shop. Sure.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Almost. Like a pop-up bar almost. This is not his. Maybe it's a part of a building. I Googled shop bar, and this one says like over 150 shots and drinks. So maybe they say like, hey, we make a lot of drinks. And he said it's like outside.

Like they have a massive patio is how he described it. So it might be like that where it is a small little bar like a sub shop, and then outside is where the party is. Huh. We're going to find out. He spoke as if we should know what it is, so it might be a regional thing. It must be. That's what I was thinking it was.

They just call it something different. Some people in the South say theater. True. Yeah. Maybe it's like shop. Pop and soda. It's like that. It's pop, but yeah, there are people that say soda.

It is absolutely pop. Could you imagine if it was a shop bar, like you had to walk in with your gun and fucking shoot a, you got to shoot a target. Just, yeah, shoot somebody. It might be. Jack Korn walks in. I want to get around for the bar. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,

Shoot every single target. Reload, reload. Everybody's getting drinking here jack car's in town miss you jack love you jack love you thank you jack car save the world thank you jack there's another season right of uh yeah has to remember he had to put uh he put the pen down yeah it's actually a prequel series is the one that's coming out first someone just joined is chris pratt to be in it? Yes.

Partially. I do appreciate that Jack Carr understood the assignment whenever he killed Arthur Fishel. And he knew what was potentially at stake. One of the most significant sniper shots I've ever taken. Spans down a few doors. He gets it. He knows. He knows.

I mean, there was no one shot on that tour that was going to save the world. More. Than that one. How about the story behind that gun up there? Bent. Yeah. It was like a state fair. Tim and Bill.

And then he goes two times into a target. Yep. All right, I got it. All right, I got it. Let me go away. I think he bent the bullet around the Thunderdome. He did. And literally hit Artie Fishel.

Right in the temple. First one. Boom. Afterwards, after he saved the world, we got a chance to catch up with him a little bit. And he said, was that good? It's like, duh. Yeah, Jackar. You know. Yeah, it was come on jack

car there's like you know like that was just like a next level experience watching one of these snipers operate one of these you know what i mean it was wild aj because i shot it and it was like nowhere near like you go to state fair they say knock out the star here and then they got the so your first 10 shots are nowhere near it because and then you gotta get it in there's never enough to really do it it's like a you know a gimmicked barrel or whatever these things aren't especially airsoft guns you're just buying it dicks or whatever which was the only thing he had available yeah true to save the world obviously it's like that thing is not like the most accurate no just yeah Just. Yeah. I'll make it accurate.

We just so happen to have a camera zoomed in just on that part. Mm-hmm. Hey, if you could land this in a 10-inch by 10-inch spot from an elevated position, that would be perfect. That's what's going to, you're going to save the world. You do this, Jack. No problem. I got it on my first try.

Aiming at this basketball hoop over here. Just right on. Not my first time. Aiming at this basketball hoop over here. Just got him. Amazing. This is for Jack Carr. Oh, no. Jack, that was not for you. All right, this one is. This one.

Oh, no, Jack. That was not for Jack Carr. This one is. This one. This one's for Jack. Yeah, it's you. This one. This one's for Jack. All right. Jack, we'll shoot for you tomorrow. Thank you for shooting for us, though.

That's right. All right, let's get out of here. Tomorrow's a good one. Huge one. Are you kidding me? A good Friday? Come on. Have you heard about tomorrow's show yet?

I heard some whispers, but I haven't heard the whole pie. AJ, has it made its way to Ohio, what's happening tomorrow on this program? It has not. Can you tell me? Come on now. You're going to have to experience it. Yep. Yeah.

You're going to shit your pants. I talked to the CEO of PBR last night. Yeah, that's right. I talked to the CEO of PBR last night. Do you agree with our thoughts? Uh-oh. Sean Gleason? I think he's running a good league. Yes,leason? I think he's running a good league.

I think he's running a good league. Safety glasses, obviously. He's not in this. That's not the photo I saw of him on Twitter, but I do appreciate that this is the one that was found of him. Guy's a dog. I think he sent this picture for Todd. Well, safety glasses is one thing.

Wearing a helmet is another thing entirely. Born after, what is it, October 20th, 1994. You got it. Yeah, we learned from PBR Buckle, which is a PBR blog, I believe. Correct. That if you're born post-1995 or 94, October 15th or something like that, you have to wear a helmet. It's rules.

Makes sense because I'm not born post-94-95 so that's not my PBR. And also, the Bulls, we just immediately echoed amongst our conversation about the treatment of the Bulls and what's potentially going on with the other Bull.

That's not real, I guess. In the PBR. Maybe other places. But in the PBR, they got this thing That's not real, I guess, in the PBR. Maybe other places. Sure. But in the PBR. They got this thing called a flank strap, I guess. And it's wrapped around, like, I don't know, rib, hip of bull. It's a cotton thing. I learned this last night.

It was actually kind of interesting. I did not know this was the case. It's tight enough to be felt, but loose enough for the Bull to think that it can kick it off. Sure. So the Bull is attempting to get that fucking thing. That is what the Bull is. That's why. Now granted there is some, I assume there's some

hyping or whatever, but like that thing in the back right there, that's a flank strap I got. We'll have the CEO Sean Gleason on at some point to explain this more. But I didn't know that was the case. Everything that'd heard about it is we got spurs we got this we got that these bulls actually like born and bred to buck like put this thing on as like they are training to be these bulls in the pbr i did get some potential worrisome news about the bull we saw jumping yeah they did not think that was an American bull.

They think that bull is potentially... That was a Mexican bull. Mexico bull. But they're thinking it's potentially... Yeah, Tony had it for lunch. He travels around to, like, circuses? I don't think he's traveling much anymore. Except for, like, hamburger buns.

Yeah, he's traveling through people's butthole. Yeah. This particular bull is one of the greatest freak athletes that we have ever created on this year of rock floating through the sky. He's nowhere near done, this bull. You think, wow, that's got to be it.

Got the guy off. Got him off real good, didn't he? Easy. Got him off real hard. Now, he's doing a celebration jump now. Maybe a couple of them. Clicking the heels. See ya. Look at this fucking bull.

Look at that. So explosive. The power. Raw. Kick old buddy right in the face. Power. Still going. Still celebrating.

With himself. I wonder why they don't just take big old dumps on everybody while they're jumping around. That'd be sweet. Yeah. It's had to happen. Like right there. Well, you know, just. They're so riled up and pissed.

Wow. That bull might be dead. Yeah. Definitely dead. Might be dead. No chance. You don't kill a bull like that. In Mexico.

I think. Yeah. I think they did. In Mexico, Tony. That was not a PBR bull The PBR bulls are rock stars in the show I'm sorry have you seen John Cena's

Adaptation of Ferdinand Those bulls are celebrated I love that bull And they go down in history Is that animated First time I saw John Cena. First time ever.

I had just got back from a vacation where I watched Ferdinand on the plane. On the plane. No John Cena, obviously. John Cena's obviously John Cena. I'm standing in Gorilla, about to go out for an NXT thing, and he walks in and John Cena's doing the John Cena. He's

introducing himself there. we know who you are you know same thing as like peyton manning did yeah he goes uh john cena go pat mcfee ferdinand was awesome he goes okay and then he just walks by i thought i had to be the first person ever to say definitely like everything that had to be definitely that's a good movie great very good oh a little sad in there too yeah yeah really tugs at the heartstrings it does yeah like 40 000 feet you got this fucking bull heart situation he voices a bull or what yeah peyton i think he's in it too yeah he is my daughter just started falling in love with the uh minions and despicable me movies those are incredible movies as well yeah people enjoy

adults enjoy those yeah yeah i'm pretty steve Carell. They appeal to the older people. Watch Toy Story again last night. That holds up. Yeah. One? Yeah. The original. Pixar also does that because they know they're for kids, so they get those adult jokes in

there, too. Well, I've heard about those. I've heard about those. I'm not talking about the dongs. This one's... For Ferdinand? For Ferdinand. This one's for Ferdinand.

Okay. For Ferdinand. Yeah. Of course. this one's um ford ford this one's for ferdinand okay yeah of course boom uh we knew that was always heard and died bernard died right no shut everything dies at some point but the life that lives was great amen the life that was lived was great rest in peace ferdinand love you. Love you, Ferdinand. Maybe. Ferdinand might still be alive. Yeah, very possible. He lives on in us. If he is living, he's living well.

There we go. That was Peyton Manning or that was Ferdinand? I can't remember. To be clear, I've got to see the full body to know who that is. Yeah, I don't recognize him. That's one of the bulls. They did Peyton's bull kind of wrong. Oh, yeah, you're right.

Skinny and kind of looks like a goat. This leads me back to that bison up there in Buffalo at that new stadium. Yep. Let's get it right.

Make him bigger. I did appreciate the artist's take that it won't be defined enough if we make it too big. That was quite a bill of goods from old Sal Capaccio.

I got a text, I think it was from your father. My dad? I don't know if it was his old number or his new number or not. So it was a 317 number. Oh, I forgot to check that. And the information that he gave me. What happened? What did he say? Your dad got a new number, right? I don't think so.

Okay. Well, anyways. It was a 317 number and I assumed only he could have this information. He said the rigging around the stage is 18 feet. The what? The rigging around the stage is 18 feet. Oh, the black. Okay, let's see.

So that's a big. That's a 16. It's big. It's not big enough. It's not big enough. Think about how big. You're doing this. You're outside a stadium.

Yeah. Think about how big the Vegas stadium is. Yeah, but You're doing this. Think about. You're outside a stadium. Yeah. Think about how big the Vegas stadium is. Yeah, but you're doing this. That's what you're doing. You're doing this. Yeah, it's supposed to be like, hey, this thing is crazy big. This is huge. Let's take a picture.

I want it bigger. Will it be that big compared to the parking spots and tents is my worry. Definitely not. Because if it's that tall and it's really long, that thing's going to be huge. It's not going to be really long. They told you not to worry. We've got the parking spots.

We've got the big fucking bison. Please. I'm just worried I'm not going to be able to see the eighth chin underneath this fucking bison because of the detail. No detail. That's what I'm worried about. I don't know how many chins.

It's going to be three feet tall. We've got a lot of great detail and emotion. Thanks, artist. Make it big, construction people. Tell the artist what he wants to hear. Build that motherfucker so high. Oh, you're saying that the contractor and the construction workers should do what's right here. Okay.

Order extra. Hey, who makes the call, though, on how they craft the dong and ball situation? Somebody has to say either we put it on there to make it realistic or we just don't even do it. I think Sal, actually. It could be Capaccio. I think Sal Capaccio does it. Okay.

He'll make a call for it. It was actually measured. That's the most amount of snow that they've ever had. Yep. That's the amount of snow that they've ever had is up to where his dong was because they never wanted it to be covered by snowstorm. is up to where his dong was because they never wanted to be covered by snowstorm so saco bachio what a legend he came in here he was selling that new place oh yeah i got a virtual tour of this thing yep the parking spots really stole the day for me those better be good

that animation or that not representation did not clear it up for me no it's the call style back we'll see call something it me. No, it's the... Call Sal back. We'll see. Call Sal back. It's probably drumming. It's probably practicing. Should we listen to the voice in the animation when it's explaining the parking lot?

No. We should get to the parking lot in the video and we should say, Sal, is this what you saw? I fear Sal's a little biased because I'll tell you what, all he said was people are really happy what Von Miller did. I haven't seen that once, actually, on the internet.

Actually, he was trending yesterday, Von Miller, and I haven't seen that once, actually, on the internet. Actually, he was trending yesterday, Von Miller. And I did not see that one time. Like, man. Shout out, Von Miller. Hey, Sal, on. Sal. Sal Capaccio, friend of the program. What's up? Sal. Sal.

Sal, you were fantastic, okay? Full microphone. You were fantastic earlier today. And as we're wrapping up the show, we wanted to visit something you said. You talked about the parking spots being bigger because they're thinking about tailgating. We loved it. I loved that. We watched the video again, and I think we can pull it up.

We watched this video again. The parking spot. Sal, it looks smaller than a Lucas Oil Stadium parking spots in the video so we want to know if you saw something different than what we were shown in the middle of this video we're running right now

obviously it's the artists, fast forward a little bit that's a field goal post let's get to the parking lot that's great oh, boom boom, boom, boom that's great oh oh boom boom boom whoa you see those tents that's taking up two spots listen listen i will tell you i don't know exactly what spot of the the area that is i the stadium hasn't been built yet we have people myself included that

have had a stadium experience tour, and I'm just telling you what we've been told. This is happening in some way, shape, or form somewhere over there. Sal! Sal. You should have straightened it. Basic-ass car right here. Yep. Basic-ass

car. That's tight. My truck ain't fitting in there. I got an electric vehicle. I'm saving the world. It's tight. My truck ain't fitting in there. I got an electric vehicle. I'm saving the world. It's big. And then this, two. Two. Did you see something

we didn't sell? Please tell us. Wait, wait, wait. It wasn't what I was seeing. It's what I was told. They lied. Okay. All right. We have faith that the people that were talking no though that we're gonna have some big-ass parking spots oh 100 100 yeah they they're actually the the stadium experience tour which is what you're watching the video from and

people can go through the season tickets the club holders that's actually going to be starting soon where they're going to send out letters if you're a club holder come on in we're gonna explain everything to you season season ticket holder. And I got a chance to walk through there and that's what they did and told us. There's a sidewalk. That's not good. This is not drawn to scale. Are we worried? This is not drawn to scale. All right, Sal. We appreciate you.

That's our big high hopes. We're turning our attention away from the bison. Yep. This is 18 feet here we're being told. It's 16 feet. that's pretty big. If it's going to be that big, sweet. But the parking spot thing is the whole, that's the balancing act there. Like, parking spot's genius.

That's very smart. And then we watch that video and we don't see it. So, we're just going to take your word for it. We're pumped about it. We are pumped about it, right? I promise I'm not lying to you. It's coming, boys. Ladies and gentlemen, Sal Kupalchuk.

That's a great way to end today. Thank you, Sal. Sure. Sal would never lie. I completely agree. He was just told this. Are we sure? No one's lying to Sal. He's a respected member of that community. Absolutely. But, you know, Buffalo's kind of in like a, hey, we need some good

PR here. Tell them the detail on these spots are perfect. There it is. Yep, universe ball. Spots will be better. This is the most important universe ball you've ever shot. For Buffalo. Yeah, I was going to say, bigger than Jim Hersey? Yeah, I would argue yes.

How about him? Yeah, that was a big shot. Oh, man. Who would have thought? Buffalo is fucking lying. Damn shame, Buffalo. Get your shovels, bitch. Going to need you this year. No, they're going would have thought? Buffalo. Damn shame, Buffalo. Get your shovels, bitch. Going to need you this year.

No, they're going to have big spots. That was a bad shot. Slipped out of my hand. The universe didn't know. Well, it's just I feel bad for Buffalo. Let's get out of here. We appreciate you all for watching. AJ, great work today.

Probably killed it. Boy, Hawker. Baby, Franker. Big thanks to Mark Schlereth and Fuji for joining us from the gym. Yep. Big thanks to Zach Ertz coming coming and talking a little soccer. Thank you, Zach. His nipples are always hard.

He has a medical condition, we were told by Mark Schlereth. Okay, that's a lie. He said that? Sources close to Mark Schlereth have told us. Chip Kelly, thanks for taking the time. Thank you, Chip. Suck a pot you twice. Thank you, thanks for taking the time. Thank you, Chip. Sal Capaccio, twice. Thank you, Sal. Appreciate you, Sal.

And we'll see you all tomorrow. You're the greatest people on earth. Thank you for allowing us to do this for a living. Be a friend. Tell them, oh, we got F1 today. We did get F1. We got F'd. We got F1'd. It was a good 15 minutes, though. Who won?

I was rude, Van Verstappen I was rude van Verstappen. Rude van Verstappen. RVR. How about them coming right out of F1 and I'm frozen? That's the best. I enjoyed that. I would have done that for 10 minutes. Man, that would have been awesome.

Oh yes. People panicking behind the scenes, calling people. Wait, wait. I got too excited panicking behind the scenes, calling people. Wait, wait. But I got too excited. In my head while I was frozen, because we didn't find out until we were told we weren't on air that it was happening. In my head while I was frozen, I was like, I'm going to do this for 10 minutes. And then I thought to myself, wait a second, we're an F1 wrap-up show right now.

And I got real excited. Here we are. We are an F1 wrap-up show. We need to make sure we handle this properly, professionally, because there's a lot on the line out there at that track they were racing on. Obviously. There is. A lot on the line. Racing.

They are racing each other. They are, aren't they? They're racing a clock. They're racing each other. And they're racing life, aren't they? Absolutely. That's what happens every time you strap yourself to one of those rockets flying around single file order tracks around the world.

Exactly. Correct. With Mr. Vanderstopping at the at the top yep just leading the way he's the head of snake yes he has been doing a great job against him way to go let's get out of here please just tell me how many people are watching when you get out of here uh too many you need to be doing different stuff with your life but we appreciate the fact you allow us into yours be a friend tell a friend something nice it might change. That's for real. Go ahead and say something nice to somebody. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. We'll see you tomorrow.

Tomorrow's going to be a good one. Hell yeah. Oh yeah. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.