The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 109 - Overreaction Monday With Paul Virzi
Episode Date: September 24, 2019On today’s show, Pat is Live from 4 World Trade Center in New York City with new friend of the show and hilarious comedian, Paul Virzi. They discuss the current climate of comedy and how things have... changed since he started, and how it has gotten more difficult keeping audiences happy with the current outrage culture, how Bill Burr initially discovered him and what their relationship with each other is like, his love for the New York Giants and what he thinks of the whole Daniel Jones situation and whether or not he was excited when the Giants first drafted him. Pat and Paul also chat about how sad the whole Antonio Brown saga is, what the final straw was for Giants fans with Odell Beckham, and other things going on in the NFL on an overreaction Monday. You can check out Paul’s special “I’ll Say This,” streaming now on Comedy Central, his album “Night At The Stand,” on iTunes, and The Virzi Effect Podcast wherever podcasts are found. Today’s show is an absolute blast. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Damn slapdick in here, man.
I saw you in cut-off sleeves on another podcast.
You caught me on a day I had to go on ESPN, man.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, Disney and they fucking, you know.
I walked in there one day in jorts and, like, a button down.
Yeah.
And they let me on the air.
And then as I was walking out, like, ten people stopped me.
They're like, hey, maybe next time we, blah, blah, blah.
Maybe next time we, blah, blah, blah. Oh, we like what you're, but maybe next, a lot of maybe next time, maybe next time.
Yeah, the maybe.
Yeah.
Maybe means definitely.
Hey, we were talking.
We were all talking back here.
We think you should put some fucking pants on the next time you come in here.
Robert Iger and Disney run this place, not wherever slapdick operation you're used to.
You know, what's funny is I watched, I just, watched, I just wanted to see the layout of your show,
and I saw you interview Francesa, and you had like a tank top on,
and I'm like, oh, dude, I'm great in a t-shirt.
I'm like a t-shirt.
I'm overdressed.
This guy's got a tank top.
This guy cut off sleeves talking to Francesa.
I thought.
I know.
I love Francesa, dude.
He's number one.
I had no idea who the hell he was.
He's number one.
I've been listening to him since like 03, 02. Are we recording?a, dude. He's number one. I had no idea who the hell he was. He's number one. I've been listening to him since like 03, 02.
Are we recording?
Yes, sir.
Okay, good.
We're recording.
Good.
Yeah, Francesa, I had no idea who the hell he was until I just learned about him on the
internet.
The at back after this, the Funhouse account that tweets out, they steal the videos from
his app that he charges people for and they tweet it out.
And his videos just started showing up in my timeline. I like i love this fucking guy everybody's like he's the guy
that's he's the guy yeah he's he's the guy like he's right a lot and like the knock on him is like
he'll cut people off it is funny though because like sometimes he can be brutal where a guy will
be like you know i'll tell you something this guy at bat he's an idiot cut him off the guy didn't
even say anything yet and i'm in the car going mike you something. This guy at bat, you're an idiot. Cut him off. The guy didn't even say anything yet.
And I'm in the car going, Mike, you've got to let the guy finish the point.
Like, if he loves the second baseman, as soon as he hears that, the guy's out.
Well, I mean, I enjoy what he did to Shermer last week.
And Shermer has cut off completely any future Francesa.
Did he?
Yeah, he said he would never go back on because he said, okay, your team stinks.
I mean, you guys are terrible.
I mean, the defense is just, yeah.
Joining us now, you hear his voice.
Ty Schmidt is here.
Foxy and Zito are back in the control room.
We're recording this live from 4 World Trade, which is still insane to me.
We are 50 floors above earth just staring down at buildings.
It's a pretty cool little thing if you're watching a video at home if not we're being joined by a hilarious individual a man whose first uh album
came out in 2015 yes called night at the stand at the stand it was number one on itunes uh for a
bit yep and then i think four on billboard i was really excited about it yeah you should have been
yeah it was it was it was a lot of work traveling to get it done and it worked out great.
Stand-up comedian, big-time New Yorker,
Giants fan? Yes.
Through and through? Giants fan.
Yeah, Giants, Yankees, Knicks.
And now his special is currently
streaming through Comedy Central. That's right.
Bill Burr presents... Paul Verzi,
I'll Say This. And ladies and gentlemen,
he's saying that. Paul Verzi is here with us.
Let's go, Paul. Thank you.
Thanks for having me, buddy.
Your guest hosting, I'm very thankful that you came through.
We've been trying to make this happen for a couple weeks now.
My people have.
I don't know about your people.
I enjoy stand-up comedians, especially ones that are into sports.
Not all stand-up comedians are into sports.
That's true.
Does sports make a play in your stand-up routines?
Do you reference it a lot?
Early.
Early a lot.
Like right around probably the material I was doing right before I did Night at the Stand,
I talk about sports.
I used to joke about gambling on sports and all kinds of stuff like that.
But I'm a big football guy.
Just everything except really, and I know people get mad when I say this,
but everything but hockey.
Just not hockey, man.
I'm a big Penguins fan.
I don't know.
Yeah, but see, I have friends that are from Boston and Pittsburgh that are big.
But in New York, it's like I think at the time I was coming up.
Everybody sucked.
It was the Knicks.
Well, actually, the Rangers won in 94, but the Knicks were like going to the finals or the Eastern Conference finals against the Bulls.
You know, the Yankees started to turn a corner.
And I was young, so that's what it was, you know.
Well, that's why I hate baseball, though, because the Pirates, whenever I was growing up,
they were in the middle of a 20-year suckfest, literally a 20-year suckfest.
In Pittsburgh, the Steelers are winning and the Penguins are winning,
so that other team, if you suck, it's hard for me to really want you to do well.
So I'm against baseball for that reason.
Are you from Pittsburgh?
Yeah.
Oh, okay. I was just there. Love it. Underrated.
Underrated.
Under one of the most underrated cities in the United States. I'm not just saying okay. I was just there. Love it. Underrated. Underrated.
One of the most underrated cities in the United States.
I'm not just saying that.
I actually said that the other day.
I mean, the one thing that's a little overrated, though.
Easy.
No, no.
The Primanti's thing is like a loaf of bread with french fries in the middle of it.
Like, I was... Can I say I had to shit for five...
Can I say that on this one?
Oh, yeah.
No, you can say shit for five days, but you cannot say what you just said about Permanis like that.
I love Permanis.
No, you just said it was the most overrated thing you've ever heard.
I ate it at 3 o'clock in the morning.
It was all bread.
It was all bread, man.
It was big bread and then French fries.
And while you're eating it, it's the greatest idea ever.
It was like 3 o'clock in the morning.
We did two shows.
Everything was good.
And the next day, I'm going, why did I do that?
Why did I go there? Yeah, a lot of regret in that Permanis sandwich there. Yeah, but I love the morning. We did two shows. Everything was good. The next day, I'm going, why did I do that? Why did I go there?
A lot of regret in that Permanee sandwich
there. But I love the city. I love the
PNC Park. I think it's the nicest baseball
field in Major League Baseball. Incredible
field, incredible park, terrible
baseball team. The thing about Pittsburgh is
they like to drink.
They are a work hard, play hard town.
There's supposed to be a tax
on alcohol they put in.
Allegheny County is the county that Pittsburgh is in.
An Allegheny County alcohol tax was put in.
And they expected a certain amount of money.
They brought in like $7 million.
And they're like, well, we got a fucking alcohol problem.
And now we have a lot of money all of a sudden out of nowhere.
Pittsburgh is a good town.
Good people.
Really good people.
Yeah, I had a great time.
Good comedy.
I did six hours of stand-up.
I did six shows at the new improv there.
Well, they renovated the improv.
Yep.
So they did.
And there's no heckling.
It's almost to the point where I was like, you guys this good?
I was waiting for one of you guys has to be drunk.
Can somebody yell something?
They were just into it.
Great.
Respectful. Thanks for coming to our city. I loved it. How long have you
been doing stand-up? Professionally
for, like, 15, 16 years. Professionally
I started, you know, it's hard in New York
to get up a lot when you first start.
You know, you have, like, no material and no
clubs gonna put you on. So I was doing contests.
I was doing, like, the urban circuit.
Like, anywhere I can. Like, hey, let me try.
You know? And then it just started to build that way. Why'd you get into it? Are you the funny like hey let me try you know and then it just started
to build that way
why'd you get into it?
are you the funny guy
of your friends?
you know what
I just
I was like
Eddie Murphy man
Eddie Murphy
as a kid
10 years old
my father took me
to a movie theater
to see Raw
and I was just locked
and that's when you know
Beverly Hills Cop
in 48 hours
so like Eddie was like
a rock star
and just watching Raw
how like it was like,
oh, this isn't just comedy.
This is just a whole thing.
And I would do Eddie Murphy impressions
and people would be like,
this guy could tell stories.
This guy's funny.
And then I just did my first open mic at 21
and it didn't go great.
So I rescheduled it
to have something a little more planned.
Because I thought the first time
I was going to be...
I didn't even have anything written.
I was like, ah, let me...
I'll just wing it.
Ah, spitball it up, Bert.
And it was terrible.
Like, I was like, oh, the cigarette pack says may cause cancer.
It does cause cancer.
It was like, there was no joke.
It was just the dumbest shit to say.
And then the next week I was, I felt bad because I was like,
I could do better than that.
So I said to the guy, like, he signed up for every Tuesday.
And I said, sign me up for next Tuesday.
And I wrote in my room all week, like six minutes, wrote it out.
And I had some friends come, and it had its own bar crowd, and it went well.
And then I just started cold calling New York City clubs, being like, can I get on your new talent night?
Yeah, because there's people, Gary Goldman is a guy that I've got a chance to follow along.
He won't follow me back, which I appreciate and respect.
I mean, he's too smart of a man to do that.
But I've met him in person a few times.
I've got a chance to watch him perform.
And to think about how he operates, in New York, there's so many comedy places.
Guys are doing like 15 sets a week, just powering through them.
Like, all right, you do one set here, you walk down the street, you do a set here at this time,
then you go here, here, here.
And the comedy scene in New York is a real one.
You can get, yeah, like you can get up a lot.
Like you can do, like the comedy cellar has three locations.
So you can just literally go, like I've done one, walked around the corner, done another.
And then if you've got to drive out and do something like that.
That's awesome.
That is awesome.
Yeah.
When did you know you had something?
Like a year in, you're like, you know what, I don't suck at this.
I started to realize that everybody sucked at that level, but I was one of the better bad ones.
Yeah.
Hey, that feels good.
So it's like as long as you're at the top of your class coming up of sucking, and then you're like, oh, well.
And then I always wanted to be one of the top guys of the group that was coming up of sucking. And then you're like, oh, well, you know. And then it just, I always wanted to be one of the top guys
of the group that was coming up.
And I started to feel that happening.
And I started to feel that with the response from the audience.
And I was like, all right, maybe, you know.
And then people coming up going, hey, man,
I really thought you were one of the.
And I was like, oh, man, maybe.
It went from something to try to like maybe I could do this
to then I think I could get good at this.
And then it was like, that's just blinders on. This my this i'm doing it good for you not a lot of people find
that in their life there's a lot of people still searching for that in their 50s 60s of it you're
100 i'm glad i was in my early 20s but i i heard that you do stand up i did i retired you're done
i've taken a hiatus and it's because you're one of your fucking friends who's that well i watched
chapelle special on netflix yeah
and i watched it through and i said i should probably never do stand-up again
and then i watched paper tiger yeah and i was like yep i should never fucking be
that is that is the reason yeah bill is bill was the tip of the iceberg because I mean, just watching a, like yourself, like a
master comedian put together
a set is something that
I would just go up there and spitball for
90 minutes. I would just go up there and bullshit for 90 minutes,
tell a bunch of stories, couple callbacks, keep it moving.
But just to be a master of your craft,
I had a real
self-awareness moment where I was like, you know what?
If people can pay and see that show
or they can pay and see my show, I should probably take a fucking hike
for a while. You're a professional
football player, so imagine the time that you
put into that, and the time you
put into kicking. Imagine if you did
that with, it's the same thing. It would be like
if all of a sudden I went to a punting
fucking, you know what I mean?
Well, that's, I know, well that's
exactly what I'm saying, is I would be like,
hey, get the fuck off the field.
Yeah, Paul, that went 15 yards the wrong way.
Just get out.
Yeah.
No, but it was real, though.
I watched that Paper Tiger, and I was like, holy shit.
But you put together that Paper Tiger and Chappelle special.
Yeah, back-to-back was legendary.
It really was.
And as a guy who's inside the comedy world, in listening to their sets, it felt like there was a real moment where those two comedians who are at the top of the craft, right?
Yeah, white guy black guy. So representing literally the top of the class here for everybody. Yep
It's felt like they felt like they had to do
Comedy a justice like hey, we got to really take because comedy was starting to get attacked. Every joke was getting over thought
Oh, why do you think that?
It's a fucking joke.
Just take it easy.
It seems like Bill and Dave had a conversation,
like maybe in a comedy store in L.A. late night,
back in the back, they were like,
hey, we got to do this or nobody else will.
Do you feel the same way?
I couldn't agree with you more,
and I think comedy needed it,
and I was actually just talking to the great Michael O'Brien
over there about...
Yeah, who is he?
He's a tall, skinny guy.
He's a great friend. He's a public he? He's a tall, skinny guy. He's a great friend.
He's a publicist.
He's the best.
But we were just talking.
Good guy.
Very good guy.
Tall and skinny, though.
Very tall and skinny.
All right, you don't have to rub it in.
I know I'm 5'8".
Relax.
Yeah, next to you, it was quite a...
Yeah, you kept emphasizing the tall.
Really tall.
He's really tall.
Unlike you.
Really tall.
You didn't deserve that, Paul.
The nice, tall guy. No. I apologize. Me and. Really tall. You didn't deserve that, Paul. The nice tall guy.
No.
I apologize.
Me and Michael were talking about, like, and I said this, and I hate to say this about my home city,
but I feel like New York crowds have gotten, have changed a little bit for the worse.
Where, like, you'll be on stage sometimes at one of these clubs, and not all, and it's still, listen,
New York stand-up is still incredibly great crowds and smart, but you can feel
when you say certain things in certain
rooms, you can feel this,
well, where's he, you know,
like, I won't get into the joke, but
I'm doing this bit on... Oh, please do, bury this podcast.
I'm just
doing this bit about the
WNBA, and I was just talking about how it just
doesn't entertain me, but this woman, she just
crossed her arms, and she's she just crossed her arms and she's
just looking at me and she's shaking
her head and I was saying like this woman doesn't
know that I have a little girl that I want
to have to play sports and equal pay
and equal rights she just looked at me as
a misogynist and it's like no I just don't like the WNBA
because it sucks it's just not entertaining
it's just not entertaining
you're not allowed to think that but it has nothing
to do with women
it has to do with it doesn't entertain me
and that's the thing
and people like they want to hear the explanation
but you know what you do adjust to it
but Bill and
Chappelle what they did was
they let people know like you're in a comedy club
you're in a comedy club
so if there was ever a time to just put it all down
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I think it was, and it was met with
some harsh criticism. For sure. Yeah, both
of them were met with some harsh criticism. Always gonna be.
By the people, by the way, that none of us would ever want to hang out with right never ever would
want to hang out with any of those humans just no leave us the alone anyways but they
they can change some things and i'm happy that dave and bill kind of stepped up for that well
that that's actually a really smart thing you said because i remember rest his soul patrice o'neal
would say you know when people would walk out right i remember opening for patrice one of the
greats and people would walk out and then their mentality for Patrice, one of the greats,
and people would walk out.
And then their mentality is
they were never going to be my fan anyway.
If you're going to come to my show
and listen to me say something
and then get up and leave,
you were never going to come to my theater show
when I grew.
You were never going to buy anything.
You were going to hear that somewhere else
and get up and leave.
So as a matter of fact, it's better to weed them out.
Yeah.
Get out.
Because I just want to fill that seat with somebody that wants to hear somebody be honest and real and not get offended.
And that's the same thing with people online who, I don't want to say cyberbullying is overrated, but it really is.
Like, who gives a fuck what somebody on the internet has to say?
That person probably would never be a friend of mine anyways.
And by the way, I'd probably hate them too.
If they hate me, I'd probably hate them too.
Let's keep it moving.
But it seems like we're kind of turning the tide on all these things.
I hope so.
I think we're kind of turning back.
I hope so.
I don't know, you know, but I stay away.
Another thing we were talking about before the show is like,
I got to just, you say something on Twitter and people don't understand.
Oh, you said some awesome shit on Twitter, by the way.
Hold on.
I was looking into your Twitter there because you were coming on the show.
Your last tweet is one that I think resonates with a lot of people that listen to this show.
It was last night.
When will actors and actresses realize that their political speeches at award shows will
never change anything or make a difference?
Shut up and say thank you and leave.
That is such a hilarious thought. Because every time somebody wins an award,
hey, you read these lines better than everybody else read their lines this year.
Congratulations.
Here's your moment to do whatever you want to do.
By the way, I look at it as an entertainment show,
so I think you should be entertaining.
I told my lady this last night while we were watching it a little bit
during the Browns-Rams game.
I said, I don't want to let you know.
I ever win an award, it's going to be an entertaining fucking speech like i don't know what to tell you
i'm not going to sit here and just thank everybody i'm going to put on like probably it's going to
be a minute long bit probably if i had to guess and my lady's like i would like to be thanked i
was like well i'll say thanks to all the people that are supposed to be thanked that involves you
there at the beginning she's like no i want a single shout out i'm like well we'll see if that
ever happens but nobody ever utilizes that for entertainment.
Instead, exactly what you said, it's all about let's change the world on this minute thing.
And it's like when there's 45 of those change the world, yours kind of gets caught up in the mess.
And that's what I said.
And people will look at that and go, well, what?
Is he not for what that person said?
It's not about that.
See, that's the thing.
It's not about that.
And unfortunately, today you have to explain that.
And people that really know me know that, of course, I'm fur.
I'm just saying when the people...
Yeah, we want to make the world a better place.
Of course you want the world to be a better place.
And of course, if it's your moment.
But when it just keeps getting redundant and it's the same thing.
You know, I remember years ago, the Beastie Boys, they said something.
They said something.
And I remember going, whether people believe that or not, at least they are talking
about something different. It was like an issue
going on at the time.
This just seems like it's like,
you know, my parents came here from...
It's just like, what?
Like, you know?
Yeah, like, I'm going back to the Browns
game. Yeah, and that game stunk,
by the way. Yeah, it did. And I know for me
it's like, it did.
It was terrible. That was a tough game to watch. But it's like
any ordinary American,
it's impossible to take any
account of that because it's like,
this person's an elitist. They're in a better
position than anyone else
watching it. It's like, how can you fucking take anything
they're saying seriously? It's tough.
They're not talking to you.
When you're hopping on a G5 with champagne
after you got an Emmy.
You're hopping on a G5 with an Emmy
and there's champagne at a red carpet
of the steps of the jet you're about to get on.
It's a little much.
It's just a little much.
But people will take,
and that's what sucks is people will go on and go,
oh, so I guess when that second guy spoke, you're not four.
And I'm like, no, it actually has nothing to do with that.
And you've got to watch, man, because people will come at you, man.
You can't win with everybody.
That's just the world we live in.
You're never going to win with everybody.
And if you do win with everybody, you're doing something wrong.
Hey, if you stand for nothing, you fall for anything.
People forget, Paul.
I love how you started that like Russell Crowe in Gladiator.
Hey, you just stared at me.
I just want to let you know I had a very deep thought coming.
I just want to let you know that there was a little bit of a curveball coming.
I was waiting for you to rip the shirt off with a metal chest guard.
Hey, you're a big-time Giants fan.
Big time.
This past weekend.
Oh, Danny Dimes. Oh, Danny Dimes.
Oh, Danny Dimes swept the world, okay?
Oh, my God.
A couple years ago, Eli Manning got benched for Geno Smith,
a guy who had been punched out by a linebacker in another locker room.
The entire Giants fan base was up in arms.
Why are we disrespecting Eli like that?
This guy traded himself from the Chargers to come here, won a Super Bowl.
He doesn't deserve it.
Now, with Danny Dimes, it
feels like it's a completely different narrative. And also,
Eli... Now, like, ship him out of here!
Get a bus! I don't want to see number 10
on the sidelines! Get a bus!
No, but it does feel as this is a very different world
now that we live in because of the success
that Daniel Jones had. If he loses that game,
which, Matt Gay was a 34-yard field goal
away from that happening, though to old Danny Dimes.
Do you think there's a different narrative today if that ball goes through the uprights?
I think the excitement in New York City and I think the Post and the Daily News
and all that stuff would still be like, you know, the future looks good.
Because he really didn't make mistakes.
He threw a 3-36, two touchdowns, ran for two.
And the thing that people saw as a New York Giants fan was
Eli doesn't have the speed to score there.
So, you know, he's running like he's got leg weights on, right?
So by the time he gets to the 10, he's going to get killed.
By the time he gets to the 10, it's like quicksand.
And, you know, where Jones just saw, Jones just was like, oh, nobody's here.
And he runs it up, and you're like, oh, my God.
So I think even if the kicker makes that, if he makes that 34-yarder
and we lose a heartbreaker like that, it's still positive.
But now the fact that we won, it's like the savior, like the savior.
But they've got to be careful with that because the defense stinks.
Stinks.
The defense stinks, and it doesn't matter who's playing quarterback.
That was the one thing about Eli.
I know that Eli couldn't do these things,
but now Saquon's out.
It's going to be tough.
But we've got the Redskins next week.
We might go 2-2.
Hey.
We might go 2-2.
Redskins bad at football, too.
Yeah.
That's good news for you Giants, yes.
Were you a fan of the pick initially when they drafted him?
No way, Paul.
Listen, I'm on record on my podcast.
I've got evidence, guys.
I've got evidence.
Okay.
I said this.
The Giants go all
in on six you gotta like that from an organization to go look they probably sat down with him and go
listen you're our guy and we're not gonna let you fall down to 17. you're our guy so for that thing
I liked him I you know I was little worries coming from Duke it's not a big program they sucked yeah
you know yeah but he's also playing with Duke guys. That doesn't get talked about enough. I saw him.
So my birthday is Veterans Day, right?
November 11th is my birthday.
Two years ago, we go to Army.
We go to West Point.
It's not far.
And we go watch Army play Duke.
And I swear to God, this defensive end came around on Army.
And when I tell you I thought Daniel Jones, like a cartoon, was embedded in the ground,
I go, this kid stinks.
I go, this guy sucks.
He's just a slow, white shithead.
That's what I thought.
Are you on record saying that, too?
Just so we know.
I go, this guy is just.
And then all of a sudden, the next year, he had a good year.
And I'm going, wait, is that the number 17 we saw get slaughtered?
But when they went in on him and they were like, listen, every time he's improved, he's super smart.
He's like Eli, but more athletic.
I was like, you know what?
I respect an organization for going all in on a guy that they were like, this is either going to be a disaster or we're going to look great.
But at least they went in.
The entire world buried Daniel Jones.
And this is my thought.
It wasn't just Giants fans that said, this guy, this is a terrible pick. It wasn't just Giants fans that said,
this guy, this is a terrible pick.
It wasn't just Giants sports talk radio show hosts like Francesa who won in very hard against the pick
because he felt like with Eli,
he could still play winning football.
Let's draft a piece around him
to at least give him a chance.
But for me, I think what happened to Daniel Jones
when everybody buried him.
Yeah.
Anybody that had a platform
that probably shouldn't have a platform to display their opinions went after Daniel Jones when everybody buried him. Yeah. Anybody that had a platform that probably shouldn't have a platform
to display their opinions went after Daniel Jones.
It was literally the mockery of the draft was how bad of a pick the Giants had.
They booed Daniel Jones at Yankee Stadium.
Yeah, exactly.
Think about how that's got to feel.
He's at a Yankee game.
He just moved here.
I just wanted to watch a fucking game.
Can I get a hot dog?
What the fuck?
I just want a ballpark frank and a cold one.
And all of a sudden, no, I didn't ask to be on the fucking jumbo truck.
They're like bumping him over urinals.
Like, move, asshole.
I got a piss worse than you do.
He's like, what?
Where'd you go?
Duke?
Yeah, that's what I thought.
No, but everybody.
And I think that hardened him, right?
So I told this story on my radio show.
When I got arrested for public intoxication,
nobody knew that I was even on the Colts. It was my second year. Hunter Smith was there for 10 years.
Nobody even had a clue that I was the punter for the team. But as soon as I got arrested for that,
my mugshot didn't look great. I mean, it was a tough mugshot. I mean, public intoxication,
that's what's going to happen. Well, nobody's going to look at a mugshot and be like,
did you get new headshots? It was my only professional shot I'd ever gotten in my life up to that point.
Look at the star, please.
Look at the star.
Am I supposed to smile?
Don't smile.
Oh, my God.
Kids are going to see this.
It was an awkward shot.
I was wearing some murderer's shirt because they gave me clothes because I showed up shirtless, obviously.
And they just said, what size are you?
I was like, XL.
They were like, what size pants?
I was like, 38.
They were like, don't know if we have 38.
Let's dig deep into the murderer's pile here.
So they were just giving me somebody's clothes, right?
When people check into jail, I guess they never come out.
They just give their clothes to other people.
So I had these FUBU pants on, and I had this dark gray shirt.
It looked bad, right?
Yeah.
But that was my introduction to a lot of people to Earth,
and I got buried by everybody.
I'm talking late night show hosts were using me as a punchline.
Like, oh, the punter did this, this, this.
Really?
Everybody in town was mocking me.
The news was, hi, we are live from the scene of the crime.
It is alleged that he went into the canal right here.
The whole thing.
I got buried, buried, buried.
And I got to a point where I was very depressed.
I was like, holy shit.
I really embarrassed everybody. But then once I got past that and my mom was like who gives a fuck
you've been drunker than this before i mean this is not the worst thing oh my god that's such a
great mom you think you're a piece of shit over that remember
you remember when you pissed in our hallway you remember remember that off of, what was it? Mike's Hard Lemonades?
No, but once I got past that,
I realized... You wiped your ass with the dog!
Once I got
past that, I
got, like, hardened by it all. I was like, man, none
of these people have any idea who I am.
None of these people have any clue who I am.
And they're just burying me for one night of my
life, which they don't even know the other ten nights
that could potentially be worse than this. But they're just burying me, burying me. I got to a don't even know the other 10 nights that could potentially be worse than this.
But they're just burying me, burying me.
I got to a point where I didn't give a fuck anymore.
I was like, I don't care what anybody thinks.
And to be honest, it made me who I am.
I think Daniel Jones is experiencing that same thing where he doesn't give a fuck anymore.
Because you look at that throw where he put it in the corner of Sterling Shepard.
There was an easy ball he could have thrown too.
But whenever you finally have that moment where you're like, I don't give a fuck.
It's like a freeing feeling.
And I feel like Daniel Jones is experiencing that much like I did.
I think not only are you right, but I'm going to take it a step further.
Let's go.
I think Aaron Rodgers waiting in that green room in that draft day to chip on the shoulder.
I think Tom Brady going for a walk with his dad on day three going, I might not
get in the league.
You know, you saw Tom Brady's body.
It's a story, right?
You know, yeah.
You know, he didn't look like some big, he just was a guy, he didn't even play a lot.
And he's just like, you know what?
He looked bad in that photo.
And then you get in a game, and I even think it's better when you're a backup and they
don't expect.
And then you're like, you know what?
This is house money.
This is gravy now.
Everybody thinks I'm the worst draft pick in the history of drafts.
Now it's time for me to just go ball out against an average Buccaneer team.
But it doesn't matter.
Still, without Saquon Barkley, I think it made him better.
I think that draft night experience is only going to make him better.
And I loved watching him just fucking go for it.
I think that that really, now that we're talking about this,
I never even had this thought until right now on your show.
But I think opening for Burr.
You know, I would open for Burrr and I got to open for Burr
Carnegie Hall and Madison Square Garden but also all these amazing theaters
across Canada and the United States and having that guy be my best friend and
mentor but I would go out there be twenty five hundred thirty eight hundred
people there to see Bill and either me and another comedian or just me and I'll
go let me give these people a punch
in the face too yeah and it would lift me because I'm like because I want to ultimately get here
yes and I got the best guy in the game believing in me thinking I'm funny and putting me here so
let me not only for him but let me show yeah you know it's I want to show that for my time I'm
going to make an impact and I think that that's what happens with people when you're either doubted
or you're kind of lower on the thing on the pole at the time, the totem pole.
I think it's the same thing. So I agree with you a hundred percent.
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How'd Bill Burr find you?
Because you always hear these stories of like Seinfeld sitting in the back
or like Jeff Foxworthy sitting in the back of a thing and being like,
hey, I think you're really good.
I'm going to take you on tour with me.
We're going to make a billion dollars.
Like that happened with the Blue Collar Comedy Tour.
Jeff Foxworthy was in the back, I guess, with Bill Engvall, Ron White.
He found him.
It was like, hey, what's going on?
Seinfeld, I guess he sees somebody and does the same thing.
Is that what happened with Burr?
So in 05, Burr came in, and it was actually his first weekend of selling out a comedy club,
and they came for him.
And it was like Opie and Anthony, crowds, and it was like 400 people,
and Rascals in Montclair, New Jersey, and I was featuring.
I went second.
I did like 25 minutes minutes and I did really well
I was super nervous it was one of my first big gigs uh coming up and he goes hey man were you
the other guy on the show he's like I didn't see it I heard it and he was like you ripped and I go
thanks he goes I'm gonna be by the stage on the next one and watch you and he just tapped me he
goes man no pressure and I was like oh man yeah no pressure and uh yeah and then he watched me
and I had a really good set.
I had a really good weekend.
And he goes,
Hey man,
he was really funny,
man.
People relate to you,
blah,
blah,
blah.
Let's,
let's keep in touch.
And then he referred me to a room in Jersey and I did the room that he referred me to
in 07.
And I thanked him.
I go,
man,
it went amazing.
He goes,
next time I'm at that room,
you're going to open.
And I told him,
I said,
the 2000 Patriots,
this is how we really,
this is the first thing that bonded me and Bill.
He's big Patriots fan. Yeah. But the first thing thing that but he can't take the compliments so so you know so
here's what bonded us i go dude that 2007 2007 patriots the best offense i've ever seen and i
was actually at the game where the giants tried to stop him from going undefeated in the regular
season and he's like oh first you know you it's so you don't know which and i'm going no they're the
best team like this is the best offense I've ever seen.
And that made him and me have this sports bond.
And then it just slowly built from there.
That's awesome.
But the cool thing about Bill was Bill never gave false hope or lied about anybody's set.
And he remembers saying that the lady at the Mitzi Shore, rest her soul,
she was the person who would pass you at the comedy store.
And she would just be like blatantly honest.
And she said the worst thing you could do for somebody is give them false hope or like lie.
So I remember opening for Bill in like 07, 08, and I'd be like, all right, man, I had a good set.
What's he going to say?
And he would just go, hey, man, nice job this weekend.
Good job.
We're going to work together again.
And I'd be like, all right.
job this weekend good job we're gonna work together again and I'd be like all right and then slowly like after like maybe around 2010 2011 like man that bitch you got that's really that's really
funny and then it got to the point where like 2013 he was like dude watching what you're doing
is a beautiful thing and then I'll never forget somebody called me up and somebody goes Bill
Burgess called you a beast on his podcast and I was like get the fuck out and and it was like
because we were just I mean he's my son's godfather i mean he's his family to me now yeah so but we kind of
kept work but then it started to get to and then when he wanted to be a part of my special and
believed in it like that it was just kind of surreal but like to have that relationship with
him i'm glad that it's that way i'm glad that it was that way instead of just being the all the
good shit like just no man you gotta like you want to get good, you got to work. Yeah. You got to work.
I love that type of story.
I got a chance, obviously, to get drafted to the Colts with Vinatieri.
Oh, my God.
If it wasn't for working with Adam Vinatieri every day, there's no way I would be where
I'm at, right?
It's crazy.
Watching him work, listening to the feedback, seeing how he handles situations both on and
off the field, it taught me more than any class could ever teach me.
Eddie Murphy with Chris Rock.
Exactly.
I feel like everybody who's ever had a chance to really make it
has always been a chance to watch somebody.
When your guy is the top of the mountain like Bill Burr,
in a world that is involved with egos, right?
Because there's a lot of egos in the show business world,
a lot of egos, especially with microphones involved.
Of course.
Is Bill Burr just like a humble dude all the time?
The best.
It seems like he really is.
No, he's the best.
That's who that guy is.
But I will tell you this.
Not much, but it also puts me under a microscope
and hurts me in one sense.
And the one sense is that since it's him,
I've had people come out to a club and go,
I wanted to see what the fuss about you was with Bill to see.
And they kind of have that cross arms like, he funny prove it exactly yeah and i've had people come up and say
that so it is a little bit more under a microscope but then like having a you know i had an amazing
time in some of the biggest venues like the garden all these places and people like oh you know i
get it and i understand why he says that about you but you could definitely feel some people going oh
that's burr's guy well let's see you know you can feel it you, but you could definitely feel some people going, oh, that's Burr's guy?
Well, let's see.
You could feel it.
Yeah.
You could definitely feel it. I met Bill Burr, and the first thing I said to him is, Mr. Burr, I'm a massive fan.
You would hate me if you ever got to know me, but I love you.
And he goes, why would you say that?
See, that's him.
He can't.
Why would you say that?
I'm like, I got a lot of energy.
I'm super positive.
I just feel like I'd be a guy that you would roast.
But I love what you do. He's like, all right a lot of energy. I'm super positive. I just feel like I'd be a guy that you would roast. But I love what you do.
He's like, all right.
And he just walked away.
I'd be a guy that you would roast.
And I did a –
That's great.
I just changed my Twitter bio a couple – after watching Paper Tiger.
I made him chuckle twice in one night.
And it was a big night for me.
I did the intros for Ruff and Rowdy.
And there was this guy that went to jail.
He was the second of his. Ruff and Rowdy, and there was this guy that went to jail. He was the second
of his. Ruff and Rowdy
is this amateur boxer. Oh, didn't he? He did
like commentary. Yeah, he was commentary.
And I was in-ring announcing
and this kid was like, Sam Smith the
second or something like that. He's just some slapdick.
And I was like, I made
an entire introduction about Sam
the
second.
The second. entire introduction about Sam the second there was one before he wasn't worth a fuck and now we have second and it's an open mic in an arena right so I'm
introducing this in a boxing and all you hear is the cackle Bill. And I was like,
oh my god, what a moment.
Can somebody clip that? Can somebody
please clip that for me, Bill Burr?
That's such a funny way to introduce
yourself to somebody. It actually goes to show
how down to earth, you're just like, listen,
dude, you ever met me, you'd hate me, but
it's so
disarming that it's like, I'm never going to bother you
again. So this interaction is over after this.
That's exactly what I said to him.
That's so great.
Because I am such a fan, and I knew he would absolutely despise everything that I was about.
I saw a clip of you do stand-up in one of the clubs in Indianapolis,
and you told a story that killed.
And I remember going, hand to God.
I'm not just saying this because I'm here.
I remember being like, this, I'm not just saying this because I'm here, I remember being like
this guy could tell a story
this guy's funny and you had the presence about you
I'm being dead serious
now this sounds very arrogant
especially to a standard comedian
I've done like 18 shows
15 of them have been
theaters and every single
time I go up there I have no fucking
idea what's about to happen and then when I come off it's always like yeah pretty good and then and then whenever
i watch guys that are actually good at what they at stand up i'm like i should never do that what
i ever did again but yeah but like imagine you did like 10 a week i don't know how you guys do it
like if you did 10 a week or even if you did let's say you did five professional shows every week for like three months.
So afterwards you'd be like, oh, I'm starting to, something's happening.
Yeah, but I don't know how you guys do it.
I don't know how you deliver the same shit with the same zest multiple times.
Like for me, if I tell the story twice on a stage, I'm done with it.
By the time I did, I did one tour through Indiana.
It was the I-69 tour, which is a great number, but also an interstate that runs
through Indiana, and we just kind of
hit four theaters along
there. And by the fourth night, I was
like, this story sucks. Like, what are these
fucking people aren't going to laugh at this? And then while I'm
telling the story, like, a laugh comes, and I'm
almost at the point where I'm like, why the fuck are these people laughing?
Yes, you get tired. That's the thing, and that's why
it's important for us to, you know,
kind of get stuff out.
That's why when my album was done, I was like three months I had nothing.
When I'll Say This was done, I'm like three, four months went by, Pat.
I'm like, dude, I got.
And then what happens is you got to get the building blocks.
So I look at it like a house and the foundation.
So the first piece comes and then you just build up on it that way.
But yeah, but you got to get rid of it it what sucks is you have to deal with the bombing so and a lot of comedians
i did my i did my special at the terrytown music hall and a lot of comedians came out it's like a
thousand seater and it was great it was a great time but it went well and it went on comedy central
but when i would go into the clubs after that younger comedians that were there would come in
the back of the room to maybe watch and And now I'm like, I can't
do that. I'm not doing that. Because that's
done. So they've got to watch me eat shit.
And then slowly
he'll just trickle out. He'll be like, oh,
he's working on shit. But you're like, yeah.
Oh, man.
I watched him.
Hey, I'm trying to do comedy,
but I saw Versi. If that
motherfucker's getting money.
And that's all that's in your head while you're doing it.
You're going, oh, my God, these guys are looking up to me now.
Some of these younger guys are looking up to me now because I'm starting to get the steps that they want and that I worked hard for now.
But then they know.
And then all of a sudden they're like, oh, that one thing's going to be something.
And then fast forward three weeks later, you're like, I want them back in the room.
Now watch.
And then it builds. So that's the gary goldman thing i watched him on thursday night on his first show and then i watched him saturday night on his last show really different
he i don't want to say he sounded like shit on thursday but there was a lot of question marks
thursday i was like why is this guy so gary goldman i was like you know what i'm gonna come
back on saturday he had just filmed a special i I guess. So on Thursday, in front of an Indianapolis
crowd, he was literally just trying to work through things
and by Saturday, he had it figured out.
I was like, oh my god, this is an
entirely different show all of a sudden.
Comedians' brains are an incredible one.
It really is. And the fact that you enjoy sports
is fascinating to me
because so much happens in sports that are
funny, right? And then there's
some situations that are just completely asinine.
For instance, Antonio Brown.
This guy, it's sad.
We're at the point where I think everybody agrees that it's a sad situation,
what's happening with Antonio Brown.
It's like, golly, man, one of the most gifted athletes of all time,
one of the best wide receivers to ever play the game,
just can't get out of his own way, it seems like.
And at this point if what he's
done is he has done officially i hope he gets life in jail right but if any of it's bullshit or
whatever and then all the other drama that he's bringing i hope he figures it out it's a sad
situation i honestly don't know what to do with it is i was actually talking to a couple of you
burr too and i have a theory i have a theory on it okay i think that i think that the what the ct i
think something i think the hits,
I honestly, because if you watch the progression,
because he was like a lot more tame than Odell.
When Odell was on the Giants after a while.
He was the crazy one.
He was the one, and then I would watch, you know, for me,
the straw that was the end was when Saquon Barkley was calming him down.
When I saw a rookie having to go up to him on the sidelines
and calm down and melt down, I'm going, you know what?
You know what?
Get him the fuck.
Get him out.
Yeah, you guys kind of hated Odell at the end, right?
It just got to the point where it was like mental breakdowns and crying and yelling.
And then it got to the point where it was like enough.
But watching Saquon be the voice of reason to a guy that's been in the league that long.
And then people are like, Antonio Brown a little bit.
I'm going, not really.
I'll take that guy.
But after that hit that he took from, that perfect perfect yeah that hit and then I think
one other one and I started to notice and as he as it got long going I think I think something man
he's lashing out irrationally he's and the way he talks in interviews now the way he's even talking
you're going like doesn't sound the same listen back back. It's something, I think so, and it's sad, man. It really is sad.
To watch, too, because this is one of our
listen, when I say our, I mean
like somebody who's played in the NFL, got
to the NFL. This is one of our premier guys.
Yeah, for sure. Antonio Brown is
what, fourth round draft pick, I believe,
or something like that, out of
Central Michigan. Worked his way
up to be a stud, like top
receiver in the game, and then now it's just watching everything around him just come crumbling out.
The thing that worried me was whenever that John Gruden thing happened,
the phone call, whatever team he had around him filming everything,
they couldn't wait to get that video out.
You know, they couldn't wait to get that video out.
And whenever you're trying, it seems like you almost become a magnetic force
to drama whenever you're profiting
off of drama so whenever you're releasing dramatic youtube videos and things that are not great
it almost feels like more gets dumped in your life and it's almost like it becomes something
you can't get rid of or away from and i feel like that's happening in antonio's life the people
around him are profiting off of this drama i think so at that point it's just like yeah let's
hey let's real housewives this thing
Let's see as much shit as we possibly can it's like god damn though. Well imagine this imagine being like alright
Dude, the balloons gonna come down over there. I want the camera when the balloon comes down
I want the can you're going like what do you just got to a new team and you're worried about landing a hot air balloon
On the thing and it's like and that yeah
I agree with you to have like a have like a team of like a television team there. Yeah, it's it's it's like, yeah, I agree with you. To have like a team of, like a television team there, yeah, it's sad, man.
It's bad.
I don't know if he's going to get another job now.
Because if he would have had at least one person say like, listen, you can go after Big Ben.
You can go after Shannon Sharp.
You can do anything.
Like that's not that big of a deal.
You probably shouldn't do it.
But if you're taking shots at Kraft, like who the fuck else is going to come get you now?
Yeah, probably don't take shots at the owners.
Right.
Which, by the way, low-hanging fruit
there to go after Kraft for that. Yeah, exactly. So I can understand
why he took a swing at it, but at some point
you would hope somebody in his team is like,
let's try to make some money.
Let's try to make money from something or somewhat.
And I think he's going to have to disappear for a little bit.
I said this on the radio show.
You know how, like, actors, they
go to rehab, whether it's like sex
rehab or this rehab.
Really, it's just them disappearing for a couple months so they can come back and say,
oh, I had a little getaway, a little stay away.
I think that type of thing has to happen to Antonio.
I think he has to disappear for a little bit and come back on the other side.
Do you think mid-season, after the investigation, a team will try to pick him up?
Or do you think it's going to be a little time?
It's been interesting with these NFL investigations.
They said they talked to somebody for 10 hours or whatever,
and they said, if we find anything that warrants suspension, we will suspend them.
They keep saying, if we find anything,
and they just got done with that 10 hours of investigation.
So you would think that's the NFL saying,
with the first, we weren't able to find anything that's suspendable here.
In the next one, there's another one coming.
There's a couple different investigations.
If it comes back all clean,
there is somebody who's going to have their job on the line who's like that needs a receiver that needs a receiver yeah not just a receiver by the way this kid yeah i
mean he's fucking the guy which is what makes us all even more so sad because you're talking about
hundreds of millions of dollars this guy could potentially go earn if he just keeps balling out
at the level that he does especially with his fitness level and how hard he works and every
which is what everybody says i don't know for sure but i would
assume that somebody will take a swing on him if all the investigations come back clear if anything
pops up though anything at all he'll be on the colin kaepernick list immediately where they're
like don't bring him in it's too much of a distraction can i ask you a question because
you you asked some questions about comedy i need to ask you something because i'm fascinated
everybody always says comedians want to be musicians, right? Comedians want to be
musicians and rock stars and rock stars want to be...
No. If I didn't want to do this,
I'm an athlete guy.
I don't get starstruck, but if Jordan came
in here, I would shit myself. You know what I mean?
Jordan probably wouldn't talk to you, by the way. I've heard.
No, I've heard.
Maybe that's probably why
I'd shit myself.
Oh, this guy.
I'm such a fan.
Don't even say hello.
But I guess the question is, because you're on the sidelines, standing there, and you're watching.
You're watching the Julio Joneses.
You're watching these guys.
Is it that fast and violent where it's like, if I got hit by...
Because that's what I think about.
I'm just like, now they're doing the stat of like, he just ran 21 miles an hour.
21.8 or something.
This hard man. This guy I've never heard of before.
Me Cole hard man. I have a
buddy at the NFL Players Association
and they did the year Julio Jones
and Vaughn Miller got drafted.
They did a party here at Cipriani's, the NFL
and it was the top 10 picks
and their families and food
and drink and Snoop Dogg
did a private concert.
Me and my wife were there, right?
And, dude, Marshall Falk hit on my wife.
That's another story.
But anyways.
How did it end up?
No, just, I mean, maybe not hit.
Maybe that's him saying hi to her, but I didn't like it.
He probably did it.
You know what?
I take that back.
He didn't hit on her.
He said, hi, how are you?
And I said, how dare this Hall of Famer?
How dare this Hall of Famer be nice to my wife?
Don't you fucking ask me that.
Yeah, I'm like cursing Marshall Faulkner.
What happened?
I'm like, I don't know.
He complimented her shoes.
He overrated anyways.
Jeez.
Yeah, that's such a typical guy.
Like, I think he hit on my wife.
Why?
Did he do it? No, he didn't do anything.
Hey, that happens at comedy clubs a lot.
Yeah.
Whenever a couple's coming, if you make the wife laugh or the girl laugh, the guy automatically hates you.
Like, you're not that funny.
I've seen it happen.
I had a girl in Pittsburgh put her hand on my stomach and chest and go, we're going to that bar there.
And this giant guy is just staring at me in the face.
And I'm like, dude, I did nothing.
I did nothing.
Hey, that guy's probably Italian, wears affliction, was ready to knock you the out that's pittsburgh but i touched
i said congratulations at this party and i touched vaughn miller right here and it literally felt
like touching this side of the it was like touching a cinder block it was it was just it was
and i'm going like that guy's gonna run a or a 4.4 or whatever and be that big and strong.
And I'm just thinking like that.
At what point were you like, I'm glad I'm kicking?
Yeah.
So whenever I kicked in college, you kick off in college.
And whenever you kick off, you watch, right?
Everything happens in front of you.
So then I kicked off in the preseason of an NFL game.
And you kind of watch, and it was like college speed there. And then the first time I kicked off in the pre-season of an nfl game and you kind of watch and it was like college speed there and then the first time i kicked off in the regular season i kicked off
and i saw these dudes who are trying to provide for their family trying to make money for a living
trying to do everything whenever they were sprinting down this is back whenever you're
allowed a four-man wedge and there were still wedge busters whenever i was jogging down the
field and i just saw a guy that was a teammate of mine just run probably a 4 6 40 with complete reckless abandoned dive head first into four human
beings and it was just like and i was standing on the field there was a real moment of like
oh fuck like i should not be on the field right now so anytime you saw me during the kickoff i was
i removed myself from any potential situation.
And then you get into the playoffs.
And the playoffs is just like another gear.
So you go from like fourth to fifth gear.
And then in the Super Bowl, I kicked off the Super Bowl.
That is just like you might as well just put that thing on autopilot.
People are trying to pop their hamstrings sprinting down the field.
Did you kick it as hard as you possibly could?
Me?
No, I was just trying not to whiff on the fucking Super Bowl.
All those flashes. I thought I was
going to whiff. I thought my dick was out there for a little bit.
All these pictures.
But for me, I'm just trying to do
the same kick, trying to stay calm.
But watching these humans just try to make money
for their family all crash into each other,
that was the moment where I was like, oh, these
fucking dudes are next level, man.
Because you've got guys 250, 260, running 4-4.
Yeah, it's crazy.
And on special teams, they don't have to be the smartest guys.
They don't have to know the playbook.
They don't have to know the defensive playbook, the offensive playbook,
which sometimes holds some freak athletes back.
On special teams, it's like see ball, get ball.
We had a couple guys that were straight-up killers.
I mean, straight-up killers.
There was this kid from Florida, 4-4 bulldog, my motherfucking pet, Antonio Morrison.
That dude, I don't even know if he knew there was a football on the football field at some point.
He was the guy who was like, hey, we need that dude to get taken out on this return,
or everything runs through that guy.
And he'd just be like, gotcha, dog.
And it would be a kickoff.
And that dude, I don't know if the person on the other
team knew that 44 was about to come basically decapitate him but he found out relatively
quickly and it was just on there was this other kid from kentucky that's nuts this kid from
kentucky was like uh i forget his name andrew fuck grill he had a big grill in he was like 255
kind of chubby kind of had a bad body i think everybody
didn't think he was disciplined but man you put him on a kickoff team he was a killer and it was
like in the in the huddle we had like a middle onside kick where i would dribble it to myself
and we called it one night against houston texans when there was nobody in front of me so i got a
chance just to retrieve it myself but when we put it in for another time for the end of the game where they thought people could be in front of us he was the guy a chance just to retrieve it myself. But when we put it in for another time, for the end of the game,
where they thought people could be in front of us,
he was the guy that was going to go take out the people that were at the line,
and I was going to pick up the ball behind him.
As soon as we put it in, it was like first quarter, maybe opening kickoff,
he came over to me, and he had this look in his eye.
He was like, call that dribble, dog.
I'll go decapitate them fools.
And I was like, I think we're kicking it deep.
I'm going to start a podcast.
But that's the guy you want on your side.
But those dudes, there used to be some real goons on special teams.
Back before, whenever there was the wedge and everything like that,
whenever big hits were almost being encouraged,
we had some goons that I was so
thankful were on our side.
I was like, I love this kid so much.
I think he got a couple DUIs and stuff.
I don't know what he's into.
How many coaches did you play for?
Jim Caldwell, then Chuck Pagano.
LJ's too.
Yeah, but I was through my rookie year, we were almost completely undefeated until we
chose to lose to the New York Jets and then the Buffalo Bills and then we ended up in the Super Bowl playing the Saints Drew
Brees beat us and then a couple years later we were almost completely defeated
whenever Peyton was out and we were sucking for luck so I've kind of got a
chance to kind of see the entire wave of the whole thing but only two coaches
okay and you played with luck oh yeah yeah to stick kid I thought he was gonna
have a monster year this year do Do you think he's done?
I do. You think he's going to come back?
I do.
Strictly because he has so much off the field.
Does he?
I think he's the number one architect recruit in the world.
Probably.
Let alone his dad is running the XFL now.
Let alone all the businesses his family's involved in.
Okay.
He's a super brilliant man.
I mean, he is next level.
Nice guy?
Too nice.
Too nice of a guy in my eyes. Like, his rookie
because I came straight out of watching Peyton Manning
kind of run the team. He was the general manager
of the team. So if practice wasn't going
good, Peyton would start over practice. If Peyton
wanted to do this, Peyton's doing this. If Peyton wanted you on the
field, you're on the field. Wanted you off the field, kick you
right off the fucking field. Like, that was the type of
Peyton was the GM of the team. Wow. Bill
Pullian, obviously a brilliant man, was able to draft well. But, that was the type of, Peyton was the GM of the team. Wow. Bill Pullian, obviously, a brilliant man,
was able to draft well.
But if Peyton wasn't something,
it was happening, right?
It was like almost
direct line to Ursae,
here we go,
this is how this is all running.
We were on Peyton's team.
So it's kind of weird
being his friend
because you never knew
who you were talking to.
Like, hey, Peyton,
I'm about to go to
fucking bong outside.
Is he going to laugh
or is he going to cut me for that?
You know what I mean?
It's like,
you don't really know
what you're getting.
I think that was kind of a tough thing, which I think a lot of his teammates got.
You never knew who you were talking to because he was that guy, right?
Great teammate, though.
We're talking about a guy that drank beer with people.
Good teammate.
Luck was just so nice.
So, like, if the offensive line sucked, he wouldn't be like, hey, pick it the fuck up.
Like, Peyton would be like, hey, I need you to do this because if you do this I'm better if I'm better our team's better everybody's happier Andrew was
too nice of a guy he didn't have that in him to be an asshole until later I think maybe after I
left I'm not sure right but I think if he would have done that earlier he's healthier he's probably
still playing so almost his niceness is almost what was ultimately his Achilles because he wasn't
he didn't force people to be held accountable as much.
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I feel like those, like we were saying,
like everyone says Jordan could be an asshole,
and it seems like a lot of great athletes have that thing where you're like, yeah, I met him.
It was kind of disappointing.
Where, like, LeBron seems like a good dad and a nice guy.
And it's like, you know.
Well, I think to get up there in that rarefied air, it takes a certain amount of selfishness, right?
Yes.
To get up into that rarefied air, it takes a certain amount of selfishness.
You've got to look out for you a lot to get up to the top, which, by the way, that's across all CEOs, executives.
You're talking about business owners, athletes of all sports.
To get to that rarefied air of being the greatest, it takes a little bit of selfishness, I think.
And I would assume that LeBron trying to trademark Taco Tuesday is a good evidence of that.
But aside from that, he does feel like he's the most human elite athlete of all time.
Yeah, no, I agree.
I think that if you're super nice, even in comedy,
they're like, ah, we could pay him less.
We could, you know, we'll give him a shittier week.
You know, it's like you got to be a little bit like,
as soon as I got to a point in comedy where I could say no to gigs,
things... I'm missing a production in comedy where I could say no to gigs, things...
I'm missing a production meeting right now as we speak.
This conversation is too good.
Oh, dude.
I'm missing an ESPN production meeting.
People that are listening know that I'm currently missing a production meeting for Thursday night's game, Navy versus Memphis.
Sorry, I know nothing going into that meeting, though.
I have no idea what we're supposed to talk about.
How funny would it be like, Wait, go to what he missed us
for, and it's me and you going, Jordan's an
asshole!
That got fired from ESPN
for shitting on Jordan and
talking about Andrew Luck for, you know,
20 minutes. No, by the way, I've never
met Jordan. I have met Scotty
Pippen, though. Yeah. And
he's a much better golfer than people say.
Scotty Pippen holed out on me
from like 85 yards out to fucking
make eagle to bury my... You golf?
No. Okay. But I swing
the club. Yeah, yeah, you swing the club.
I swing the club. And I think it was very obvious
down in the Bahamas that I'm not great at golf. I got
beat by Scottie Pippen in this NBA vs. NFL
thing. And I just got fucking murdered
in the whole thing. But we won. I am an
undefeated golfer. I'm undefeated. I have a
championship belt and everything. Me, Aaron
Rogers and the boys took down the NBA. Scotty
Pippen, Jared Smith. He came to a show. I met him.
Aaron Rogers? Yeah. Good dude. He came to a show.
He's a big comedy fan. Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah. I could tell he didn't want to
he wanted to keep hanging. He was like
he was cool, man. I love Aaron Rogers.
He's a good friend of the show. Oh yes.
He has a lot. He told me down at that golf tournament
I was like why don't you ever talk more to anybody
And he was like well this guy
He gets like misquoted a lot
Things get taken out of context
So he said his whole life motto is kill him with indifference
Which is a hell of a fucking
He just doesn't respond to anything
Like oh Aaron Rodgers is the worst brother of all time
No answer
Oh Aaron Rodgers is the greatest quarterback of all time. No answer. Oh, Aaron Rodgers is the greatest quarterback of all time.
No answer.
It's just always just, whew.
He just, yeah.
Just does his thing.
And they look like they're a good team this year.
I thanked him.
How funny is this?
This is how much of a Giants fan I am.
He came to a show, and I go, hey, dude, can I just say something?
I go, I'm a Giants fan.
I go, thank you.
I go, that pass you threw against the Cowboys on the sideline to kick that field goal
and have that place file out like a funeral.
Thank you.
And he just goes, yeah.
And he goes, yeah, we beat them this year too.
So smooth, by the way.
No, just calm.
Like I was like, you know, he was happy that I'm a Giants fan
who was happy that he beat my rival, that he was just like, oh, we did it again.
Like that's how great of a guy.
Hey, by the way, yeah, we did it for you again this year.
Yeah, by the way, we did it for you again.
And he's a very, like, calm deme way, we did it for you again this year. Yeah, by the way, we did it for you again. And he's a very calm demeanor.
And when he speaks, it's always just very well thought out, but there's zero inflection.
He's a dry, dry sense of humor human, which not a lot of people can get.
So it can be misunderstood by people.
Yeah, they just think he's a prick.
Yeah, exactly.
It's the complete opposite, actually.
It's actually the complete opposite.
He's got a good sense of humor, and he's like a goofball in a way but he just kind of you know seems like he seems like
he laughs at silly stuff so do you know how everybody was burying him in the floor for
their relationship everybody was coach yes everybody was burying him so the first time
he really spoke about it was on my show so i was like how are you in coastal floor everybody's
talking about you two hating each other he's like, he's taking a bunch of average Joes,
and he's really making us believe in ourselves.
And he took it to a dodgeball reference for Peter LaFleur.
Yeah, that was his answer for this massive.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, it was beautiful.
I just started crying laughing.
I was like, ah, it's fucking brilliant right there.
Oh, my God.
That's so great.
Yes, it's brilliant.
Like, to know that and to do it like that.
Live, too.
He knows everybody wants to hear this answer, too.
Everybody on earth was just listening in like, what the fuck did he say?
He hates that coach, doesn't he?
I love the mustache he did for the, you know, Happy Gilmore.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My fingers hurt.
Now your back's going to hurt.
It's just the landscaping duty.
Where can people see you be hilarious at?
Oh, man, this weekend.
I'm doing four
big shows. Gotham Comedy Club, man, one of my
favorite clubs to headline. My home
city. Did it last year. It was a great time.
Doing a completely new hour for my special.
I'll be there this Friday,
September 27th, two shows, and
this Saturday, the 28th, two shows.
Well, I appreciate you so much for stopping by. Dude, man,
you're the best, man. Yeah, you're the best. Yeah, I'm glad
we got to hang, and I appreciate it, man. Great to meet you. That's Ty. Ty's an owner of the Packers. Yes, I am you so much for stopping by. Dude, man, you're the best, man. Yeah, you're the best, Paul. Yeah, I'm glad we got to hang and, you know, I appreciate it, man.
Great to meet you.
Ty's an owner of the Packers.
Yes, I am.
Are you?
That's actually what the mustache is for.
Oh, I like it.
Yeah, Rodgers, not shaving it until the Packers lose.
I went to Lambeau.
It was on the list.
We went to Lambeau against the Lions last year, Monday Night Football.
That place is cool, isn't it?
It was real cool.
It was real cool, actually.
The Lions at Lambeau last year?
The Lions at Lambeau.
Was it last year or the year before?
Two years ago. The year before. He called the game. I called the game last year. 31-0. The Lions at Lambeau? The Lions at Lambeau. Was it last year or the year before? Two years before.
I called the game last year.
31-0.
Lions won into Lambeau and stomped a mud hole in the backers.
Wait, was that when Rodgers was hurt?
Yeah.
Oh, I was at that game.
Second play of the game, concussion.
Okay, so wait.
Remember when he got to surgery on the collarbone?
Yeah, yeah, that's not that one.
This one he had a concussion.
Second play of the game, week 17.
Nothing on the line. Okay. But people are saying, yeah, that's not that one. This one he had a concussion, second play of the game, week 17. Nothing on the line.
But people are saying, arguably,
the greatest commentated football game in the history of football.
Undefeated since then, by the way.
Undefeated. The Lions are undefeated since then.
There's a Lions fan in the headset.
Alright.
Thanks for having me, man. Hey, Paul, you're fucking hilarious,
dude. You're the best.
Hey, Bill Burr presents good shit, I would imagine.
I got to meet meet and shake his
hand one time feels like that's an accurate thing uh follow him on the social medias at paul verzi
uh virzi you a paisan uh my mother's greek my father's sicilian we saw the greek diplomat land
um at the airport that we landed at i don't know what the fuck they're doing that's great yeah but
i want to let you know we almost got kicked out of our own country.
You said it like, yeah, but you just got so serious.
You're like, do we pass a Greek restaurant?
There was a Greek restaurant out here.
Our plane landed, and there was 55 black SUVs with cops and everything.
We're like, oh, fuck, here we go.
Oh, because it's all happening here.
Right now.
Everybody's from everywhere is here
Yeah so we're filming it obviously
And we almost got kicked out of our own country
For filming the Greek diplomat
The person was like put the camera down
I was like who gives a fuck
What's that guy gonna do kick me out of Greece
They don't like being filmed
I don't give a fuck don't go back to their country
They're in my country now motherfucker
Yeah yeah
Anyways they deserve it.
They're probably doing
the Lord's work if I had to guess.
We are not.
We are just
doing stupidity
on a daily basis.
We can't thank you enough
for listening.
You're the greatest.
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Only pick a couple, though.
We are a small business.
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Yeah, everything's ha ha.
You guys probably got 151 shirts.
Might be the first person that makes Paul laugh.
Might be the first 10.
We'll see how it goes.
Thank you so much for listening.
Yeah.
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Now I'm down in Tribeca.
Right next to the narrow.
But I'll be hood forever.
I'm the new Sinatra.
And since I made it here
I can make it anywhere, yeah they love me everywhere
I used to cop in Harlem, all of my Dominicanos
Right there up on Broadway, brought me back to that McDonald's
Took it to my stash spot, 560 State Street
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Now you're in New York These streets will make you feel brand new
These lights will inspire you Let's hear it for New York
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Catch me at the X with OG at a Yankee game
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Yellow cap, gypsy cap, dollar cap, holla back
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If Jesus paying LeBron, I'm paying Dwayne Wade
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These streets will make you feel brand new
Big lights will inspire you
Let's hear it for New York, New York, New York
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So they can step out of bounds quick
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jesus can't save you life starts when the church came here for school graduated to the high life
ball players rap stars addicted to the limelight md and may got you feeling like a champion The city never sleeps, better slip you an ambien
In New York
I'm quick, I'm cool, we're dreams are made of
There's nothing you can't do
Count your New York
These streets will make you feel brand new
Big lights will inspire you
Let's hear it for New York, New York, New York
One hand in the air for the big city
Streetlights, big dreams, all looking pretty
No place in the world that can compare
Put your lighters in the air, everybody say yeah, yeah
Come on, yeah, yeah
In New York
The comfy jungle where dreams are made of
There's nothing you can't do
Count your New York
These streets will make you feel brand new
Big lights will inspire you
Let's hear it for New York
New York, New York