The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1091 - Men's and Women's March Madness Bracket Reactions, Adam Schefter, Elle Duncan, & Rece Davis

Episode Date: March 18, 2024

On today’s show, Pat and the boys recap both the men’s and women’s March Madness brackets, including all the snubs, which matchups are the most intriguing, and much more. They also discuss yeste...rday’s exhilarating finish to the Players Championship, everything we missed over the weekend in terms of NFL news including Justin Fields getting traded to the Steelers for a conditional 6th round pick next year, and much more. Joining the progrum to chat about which free agents might be not he move next, all the different draft scenarios that might play out over the next few weeks, and which information we’re hearing might not be true is ESPN Senior NFL Insider, Adam Schefter (23:13-38:43). Later, host of ESPN’s Women’s College GameDay and SportsCenter anchor, Elle Duncan joins the show for a comprehensive breakdown of the women’s bracket (1:13:56-1:32:28), followed by College GameDay host for both basketball and football, Rece Davis, who gives a comprehensive breakdown of the men’s bracket (1:34:01-1:52:44). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this March Madness Monday, Izzo 18th, 2024. This sports program starts now! Sports! That was just for a small niche group of human beings that cheer for Michigan State. Go green! Go white! In the tournament, obviously, saying go white by yourself on an ISO into a TV as a white person is certainly a decision, but that's Michigan State. And that's Michigan State basketball showing up in March.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Congrats on making it to tourney. 26 straight years, baby. Izzo legend, Hall of Famer. Love it. That's Evan Fox. Next to him was Zito, Gumpy, and Nick are in the back alongside Bruce and Dirty and Mitt and Bill. The Toxie Table is here at At Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Ty. Here we go. Huge news. Oh, yeah. The number one seed in one of the... Yeah. I guess you could say the number two overall seed. Yeah, but undefeated South Carolina, too.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Yeah, of course. We are headed to Iowa this Friday. We'll be live at the Fieldhouse. They're saying it'll be a 2,500-person max occupancy for our show on Friday at the Fieldhouse. Now, where is this thing that we're going? It's not the bar that we're going to be at. No, it's not the bar at the Fieldhouse.
Starting point is 00:01:14 It's over near the hospital and where Carver-Hawkeye Arena is and over by Kinnick as well. So it's on the west side of the river, but right by a bunch of the residence halls and it's where the old like that's where all the students used to go before they built a new rec center
Starting point is 00:01:33 downtown. Now they said we could go into the arena. Shout out to Iowa and the university for being so incredibly kind because the game is Saturday at 3 where Kaitlyn Clark will do her thing. Now that entire Hawkeye team will do its thing. Now, I do believe there's other games being played there as well. I think West Virginia is playing out there.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Yeah, they are. So, there's practice isn't happening. So, they said there will be no audience if we're due to show live from the arena. So, we're going to stay at the Fieldhouse. 2,500, I guess Fire Marshal already has a heads up that we're coming. So, there will be some counting going in. But we cannot wait to see the beautiful people of Iowa. Roman Reigns already slotted to be making a trip to the gorgeous campus over there.
Starting point is 00:02:12 There's also some legends that are going to be stopping by. We're trying to stack the card because we would like to showcase a celebration of the women's game with the NCAA Women's Championship basically being a topic of discussion everywhere where I'm not sure it has been that this entire time. Now, last year we obviously caught the bug. Whenever we were watching South Carolina play, LSU play with Angel Reese. That's where we were introduced. Whenever she was doing a You Can't See Me Do,
Starting point is 00:02:37 Kaitlyn Clark, who happens to be the most electrifying basketball player to come through the Midwest in some time. The Virginia Tech Hokies women's team did great. Miami had a run last year. So we'll be excited to, you know, kick off that tournament on Friday in Iowa. It is going to be a blast. Next Tuesday, we'll be live at the NFL owners meeting. We got the men's March of Madness tournament taking place.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Women's was taking place. And a lot of NFL news, which brings me to one half of the hammer. Dad, Cowboys, Tone Diggs, Pittsburgh Steelers, die hard. If there was a bullet that was shot from, let's say, the other side of Earth, and we all knew that it was coming, and it was aiming for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Tone Diggs, among many others, I'm not saying he's the only one, would be a person I would say,
Starting point is 00:03:19 all right, I'll do it for the good of the Pittsburgh Steelers and jump in front of that thing. For an organization and a team that has represented the city so well and brought so much happiness, although over the last few years, handful of years, decade maybe, recent history, it has just been bah. We've just been bah. Doing the same old thing that we've been doing since the 80s, since the 90s, and it's now becoming a point where it's getting a little bit monotonous. So then Omar Khan, which people are calling the Khan artist,
Starting point is 00:03:49 because the deals that he makes maybe with the Chicago Bears for a backup quarterback, is changing things up, bringing in some electricity. Not only investing on the defense side of the ball, but changing the quarterback room in its entirety. Just two years removed from taking a quarterback in the first round. That guy sent out of town. Not ceremoniously. No, no, no, no. Even though he did great things for the University of Pittsburgh and those reunions
Starting point is 00:04:12 will be fantastic because he did win the ACC championship there. Congratulations. When he comes back years from now, it'll be good. But right now, there's a lot of shit being talked to Kenny Pickett from Yenzers because he didn't want to compete with Russell Wolfson. So who's going to be competing with Mr. Unlimited? Well, for a six-round pick that could become a fifth-round pick, depending on how much
Starting point is 00:04:33 time this man plays, Justin Fields is the newest member of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now, when they were talking about a home for Justin Fields, Pittsburgh always seemingly was a place that had some interest. Now, Adam Schefter been on the program. He'll be joining us again here in about 15 minutes in the past. He said Mike Tomlin loves Justin Fields. And with Artie Smith coming in there, Artie Smith in Atlanta last year was linked
Starting point is 00:04:56 to Justin Fields because they thought Artie's offense would be great for a mobile, powerful, electrifying quarterback like Justin Fields. Now, there are some stats coming out about Justin Fields and Russell Wilson. For instance, I guess they're the only two quarterbacks, okay, who have won fewer than 20 games and lost 25-plus games since 2021. That's coming from Dante Koplowitz-Fleming, who's on the NFL research team.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Okay. So a pretty legit dude here. Russell Wilson, 17-27 since 2021. Justin Fields, 10-28 since 2021. So whenever you look at stats like that, you think to yourself, well, both these guys stink. Who cares? Well, I don't think that's how the Pittsburgh Steelers see it.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I don't think that's how a lot of folks see it because there's stats being presented now to Pittsburgh Steelers fans that he's basically a more jacks. Bingo! Yeah, you go back in the last 20 games. Let's go ahead and take a little look-see here. Drop back, 663 to 668. Is that same? Praise the Lord.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Is that same whenever you get up to that much? Less than what? 5% or something like that difference. 66% completion for the MVP, Lamar Jackson. Justin Fields, 62. Stop that. He's in a ballpark. Yards per attempt, Lamar Jackson. He's throwing 62. He's in a ballpark. Yards per attempt, Lamar Jackson.
Starting point is 00:06:06 He's throwing that thing 7.8. Not a bad clip. You know, got new offense over there. Bunch of weapons over there. Justin Fields, 6.8. Just your difference. We only need 10 of those for a first down, so that's not that big of a difference. Touchdown interception ratio, Lamar, 26 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Eight interceptions, won the MVP. That's interesting. Justin Fields, 26 touchdowns, same amountceptions, won the MVP. Justin with 26 touchdowns, same amount. 14 interceptions. Not all on Justin Fields. Rush yards? Lamar is known for this, right?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Lamar is the mobile quarterback that everybody is hoping that every mobile quarterback could potentially become because of how great he has become for that Baltimore Ravens offense. 1,000 yard rusher. That's really good. Justin Fields? 1yard rusher. That's really good. Justin Fields, 1,376. That's almost 1,400 yards.
Starting point is 00:06:49 We're not mathematicians. Is that 24 yards away from 1,400, which is just one run of Justin Fields? One run away from a 1,400-yard rusher? Is this guy running back? Is Russell Wilson the quarterback and he's hanging off the Justin Fields? 1,400 yards last weekend. And then rush touchdowns. Lamar's only got six. Fields got nine obviously you start looking at some numbers
Starting point is 00:07:09 you think to yourself what hold hold the phone yeah Justin Fields has a lot of upside bingo Justin Fields is still young Justin Fields is going to a team in which the coach loves him as opposed to at a place where they changed over the general manager and the coach seemingly in the middle of his tenure. So right now, Pittsburgh Steelers fans are celebrating their asses off. Tony Diggs, is that an accurate depiction of the new quarterback room over there? Yeah, it is. You called me on Saturday afternoon.
Starting point is 00:07:37 You said, hey, Tony, I was watching some clips, studying some film. It sounded like you were using your maybe voice when you were talking about Russ. That is true. Because remember he said, yeah, we're wearing our jerseys to the stadium. Sounded like you're using your maybe voice when you were talking about Russ. That is true. Because remember he said yeah, we're wearing our jerseys to the stadium. We like that. Okay? We like that, okay? That's what he said about Russell.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Yeah, we're eating danger witches. We love it. Mr. Unlimited is our hero. We love it, okay? You were saying a lot of that last week as you seemingly were selling yourself, didn't it? Oh, yeah. Big time.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Sounded like you were selling yourself. And you are a prototypical yinzer when it comes to the Steelers. Yeah. So I did want a little bit more information. Like, are we really into this or are we fake into this because it's $1.2 million? And you said? Well, I told you on the phone that I am much more excited this year than i was last year about the quarterback situation that was that was before the trade even happened on saturday
Starting point is 00:08:31 when that room got even more dynamic and you first mentioned omar khan okay that man has been cleaning house it's spring sprung last week it's a little chilly this week but spring had sprung last week and omar said hey we do some cleaning around here, and he did. He got rid of a lot of loose baggage, and then you talk about Omar Khan and the Chicago Bears. He got the 32nd overall pick two years ago for Chase Claypool.
Starting point is 00:08:56 The 32nd overall pick. We got Joey Porter Jr. with that one. Worked out pretty well. Then this year, he goes, who am I going to fleece this year? Oh, the Chicago Bears. Why wouldn't I do that again? He just flops it right on Paul's desk again. Oh, you're saying Khan flopped Paul on Paul's desk. Yeah, and he said,
Starting point is 00:09:12 oh, I don't know. Maybe a six next year? How do you feel about that? Yeah, they took the bait again. You talked about those stats. Justin Fields to Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson had 26 touchdowns and eight interceptions.
Starting point is 00:09:29 That's the same that Russ had, too. So just something to look at there. That's our starting quarterback right now. Oh, so you combine it. You guys got 50 touchdowns. Something to think about there. And I'm going to read this because I want to get it right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Since 1950, two quarterbacks have improved year over year in yards, completion percentage, interception percentage, pass rating, and most importantly, wins. That's Josh Allen, who's a pretty good quarterback. We like him. And Justin Fields, who is slated to be the backup currently for the Steelers. Now, that spells good things for this man's future. So maybe Russ has two futures to worry about right now,
Starting point is 00:10:10 something to think about. Three, maybe. Oh, yeah, because a junior. Three sports stories, one pirate stuff. So something to think about there. But, yeah, I am very, very, very, very excited, not only for the quarterback room in that future, because, I mean, there's really no risk except for losing, really.
Starting point is 00:10:28 But other than that, they didn't really put a lot into money-wise into these two or compensation. You're right. I forgot. Some seasons it is actual life and death. It's not just losing games. Some seasons it's like, hey, at the end of the year, people are going to get beheaded.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Shoot you in the head if you play bad. Because I guess the worst thing to happen is just losing. I appreciate that mindset. We are very, very excited. Not only just for this, but also the mindset that Omar Khan has. There needed to be a change because like you said, for the last seven or so years,
Starting point is 00:10:58 it's been kind of meh. Now, the future is bright, my friend. Last playoff win for the Pittsburgh Steelers was in 2016, I do believe. So it's been almost a decade. And, I mean, you dropped your hat over there, Ty, because you could sense that the Steelers fans were all zeeked up over this entire thing.
Starting point is 00:11:13 As a guy who saw Justin Fields' growth in the rivalry games that are the Packers versus the Bears as a Packer owner, I think we can all admit that two years ago when they earned themselves the number one overall pick, Justin Fields was the only flashy thing on the team. By far. The only highlight coming out of that place was Justin Fields tucking it and running for 70 yards, maybe. Outrunning people, too.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Big, strong, faster than everybody. Then going into last season, now everybody kind of forgets they didn't earn a number one overall pick. No. Chicago. They earned it by fleecing the Panthers. That's right. Seemingly. no chicago they earned it by uh fleecing the panthers seemingly now there's been a lot of fleecing going on in every deal but a deal is only good one if it ends up making your team great if a team ends up stinking after fleecing somebody who cares then who flees to in the entire thing maybe everybody got fleeced in the situation
Starting point is 00:11:58 but justin fields you think he's a future nfl quarterback what is the thoughts around the end i think so i think you put him in the right situation, which feels like this could be the one. And, of course, there are some throws that are missed by Justin Fields. But what young quarterback doesn't miss throws? I guess you could say like C.J. Stroud. Sure. That would be one of the only ones. But it's like sometimes he makes bad decisions.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Sometimes he misses some. But were the Bears a team that weren't going to make mistakes regardless anyways? I don't think so. What a beautiful thing for Justin Fields to happen, and allegedly, it has been reported that there was three other teams or four other teams, depending upon whether it was five total or four total, that were interested on Justin Fields, and Justin
Starting point is 00:12:38 Fields and Mulgueta, his agent who we know. Monster. The guy. Needs to be negotiating deals for our country. Yes. But he's doing it in the NFL. Very, very impressed by his work and what he's able to accomplish. Allegedly, the Bears and Mulugeta and Justin Fields talked.
Starting point is 00:12:56 He wanted to go to Pittsburgh because of the future and what he saw and what he thought of the organization. I assume a Tomlin. And they ended up getting that deal done. Now, did any of the other teams have a better offer for him? Like maybe a fifth-rounder year, as opposed to a six rounder next year, and they decided to kind of like go, because it was
Starting point is 00:13:11 kind of in the same thing? Maybe, who knows? But shout out to polls doing right by Justin Fields, as they both turn to their next chapter. Chicago, Caleb Williams, we assume. Oh yeah, for sure. A lot of photos of him hitting the internet this weekend. Oh yeah. A lot of photos hitting the internet. I did not know that he was in GQ
Starting point is 00:13:27 wearing a dress. Me neither. Dog. Look at the confidence that you have to have to just go into GQ wearing a dress. Knowing that everybody's
Starting point is 00:13:34 going to talk. Oh, yeah. Knowing that everybody's going to take shots at you. Yep. Does not care. Does his thing. Now, I saw a lot of people
Starting point is 00:13:41 putting the Chicago Bears logo right here on his chest. Sure. And they're thinking maybe he put this dress on because he's the bell of the ball for Chicago. Agreed. And now that they've traded away Justin Fields, they seemingly officially announced that this guy's going to Chicago. He also had some other photos.
Starting point is 00:13:53 He's wearing cleats whenever he's dressed up. Oh, yeah. I don't know if everybody knows it. He's wearing cleats. If he could get to the Chargers to work out with Jim Harbaugh, that might be his place. People are saying this guy, yeah, maybe he's into some stuff as he's modeling and fashion. Sure. He's not focused on football.
Starting point is 00:14:09 He's got football cleats on in his GQ fashion shoe. Can we zoom in on those, please? And they match the whole entire fit. The guy's accessorizing as a football player. This is what we need in this thing. This is fashion. Hashtag fashion forward. You guys will never understand.
Starting point is 00:14:25 You think there's, like, Stefan Diggs, you think there's shin pads underneath those pants when he was wearing the cleats? Well, I think they know. You're going on hockey night, you got the shin guards on. Football night, we got the cleats and the helmet. He's wearing a helmet out there. You know what I mean? And then whenever he needs to show his game face, you know, boom.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Flex on him. Exactly. And I was told he wasn't all lubed up. This is natural sweat that he worked up thinking about football. Okay. Wow. Just thinking about football, the mental reps he was able to have got him so jacked up that he was breaking a sweat. It's that type of stuff that, like, the greats are able to do.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Tiger Woods is able to visualize a hole, and he's able to play the entire thing in his mind, so he gets extra reps. Caleb Williams was actually repping out an entire Super Bowl run before this, which is why he's so sweaty out there. So that's who's going to Chicago. I think Chicago, good city for Caleb Williams. Awesome city. Big city. A lot of opportunity. I think he'll be able to handle the pressure. It's the third largest after LA.
Starting point is 00:15:18 Of course, New York, LA to Chicago. Houston's trying. Phoenix is trying to make a jump as well. Especially with what they're doing with the casitas outside of the stadium. But I think Caleb's going to do well. I saw RG3 on the Ones. Saw that too, yeah. On the podcast.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Now, RG3 has a statue at Baylor. He does. People forget that. I think people are forgetting that as they're watching RG3 on TV. I'm not saying all people, but some people forget. RG3 has a statue outside of a stadium in college football right now. That's who RG3 was on the field in college. He goes to Washington.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Old name. Football team. Two teams ago. Before football team. Football club. Puts us in a spot. It does. A lot of people just say it.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah, they do. Because historically, that was who drafted. Exactly. Historically, a lot of things were said. We shouldn't do it. Yeah, you're right. Historically, a lot of things happened. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Can we just call them the Reds? The amount. A little close. Easy. A little close. Easy. A little close right there. Yeah, because Cincinnati is already a team name. Exactly. No. Okay. Th little close. Easy. A little close right there. Yeah, because Cincinnati is already a team name.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Exactly. No. Okay. Thumbs down. Anyways, the team that was called the – see? I could have done that right there. And I think others would have done that. We're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:16:37 You could say potatoes. That's against Irish people. You shouldn't do that. Sure, true. Because the appetizer would be potato skins. Oh, okay. Instead of saying the second part. We'll just say the team that was in the D.C. area.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah, there you go. That makes sense. Yeah. The team that was in the D.C. area drafted him. He wins Rookie of the Year over Andrew Luck. Now, remember, the team that was in the D.C. area traded everything to get RG3. Once Andrew Luck goes to the Colts, which I think everybody knew, RG3 was going to be the next guy highly sought after.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Nobody wanted him more than the football team that was in D.C. It doesn't end up working out because of injuries, I think, that take place. He had a hot start. It ends up not where him and Jay Gruden, I don't think, saw eye to eye at the time or now. But he came out and said something very interesting about what Caleb should do. As a guy who got drafted at the top of a draft and has been in an nfl building and understands seemingly how the nfl works caleb williams should pull an eli manning and demand that the chicago bears do not draft him number one overall after everything that's happened with just justin field
Starting point is 00:17:39 can caleb williams really look at that and say you know what this is the organization that has my best interest at heart and they're going to help develop me into the player that I want to become. Caleb Williams is on record saying that he wants to be legendary. He wants to rewrite history, and he wants to be the best that he can possibly be and win the most games he can possibly win. After the Bears took Justin Fields, the 11th pick in the draft, and turned him into a sixth round pick in the 2025 draft by trading him to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Can Caleb Williams really look at that and say, you know what? Yeah, this organization is going to help get me where I want to go. I don't think it's saying that.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Eli Manning had power in that 2004 draft. And he let the Chargers know, don't draft me. I don't believe in the direction that your organization is going and I don't want to play there. He refused to play for them, even threatened to sit out an entire season if they drafted him. They still drafted him. And the look on his face when he's holding up the jersey said everything.
Starting point is 00:18:36 So what happened? The Chargers traded him for the New York Giants for Phillip Rivers, also a 2004 third round pick, and then the first and fifth round picks in the 2005 NFL draft. What did Eli end up doing? He won two Super Bowls for the New York Giants. Had a great career. So for Caleb Williams, don't get me wrong, guys.
Starting point is 00:18:53 I thought Ryan Poles was having an amazing offseason up until this trade for Justin Fields. Because you trade Justin Fields so you can get some players back to help your team out this year. Because Ryan Poles and Matt Ebert, the head coach for the Chicago Bears, they're in a lame duck season. can get some players back to help your team out this year because ryan pauls and matt that's the head coach chicago bears they're in a lame duck season they have to win this year or they're going to get fired don't get me wrong hey handing the football off to deandre swift throwing the ball to keenan allen and dj moore and cole commit those guys are phenomenal this ain't anything about them this is about caleb williams and what team out there gives him the best chance to be successful only he can deem that yes i do think him going back
Starting point is 00:19:30 to washington where he's from he's a dc kid went to gonzaga college high school okay i think that's the best right now but he has to answer that question and if he says all right i see everything that's been going on and now i can make the decision and say, I don't think that the Chicago Bears are the best place for me or my family to accomplish all the goals that we want to accomplish, then he needs to let that be known. He does have power right now, and he should exercise it if he feels like Chicago is not where he should be. Okay. All right, RG3. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:20:02 There was conversations a little bit a couple years back about Joe Burrow maybe doing this at Cincinnati. That's right. You know, because Cincinnati's still being voted not that great of a facility, not that great of an operation, you know, that entire thing when it comes to the NFLPA report card. But they got new ownership, new run, new camp, new everything. So they feel like they're a brand-new building.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And they should be proud. Hey, let's go, Bears. They should be very proud to turn that whole thing around. I assume the Bears are thinking the same thing. Yeah. We got new GM, new president, and they should be proud. Hey, let's go, Bears. They should be very proud to turn that whole thing around. I assume the Bears are thinking the same thing. We got new GM, new president, new coach, new culture. We got new players in here. So you can't judge us off of what has happened, you know, historically in the Chicago Bears for the last 20 years,
Starting point is 00:20:36 which you guys suck. Garbage. Trashbag. Yep. What? Garbage. It's only up from here, though. Real bad. But it feels like because it's been so bad
Starting point is 00:20:48 over time, inevitably you would think the odds would say you hit on something. And it feels like Ryan Bowles has a vision. Eber Flus is a guy who helped with the entire vision I would assume because he's a culture setter. When he was here in Indianapolis, everybody loved him. Players loved him.
Starting point is 00:21:03 His assistant coaches loved him. Head coach loved him. Ursae loved him. Literally he was here in Indianapolis, everybody loved him. Players loved him. His assistant coaches loved him. Head coach loved him. Ursae loved him. Literally, he was such a great defense coordinator here. He got a head coaching job in a time when they were only hiring offensive head coaches. So I think judging the Chicago Bears strictly off of what has happened over the last 20 years is a little bit rude. But with that being said, RG3 has a much better sense of what could potentially be great for a high draft pick and what could potentially be great for a high draft pick
Starting point is 00:21:25 and what could not be as opposed to us. But I would just say, saying the Washington Commanders are a franchise, they'll be able to take care of them as opposed to the Bears. We all just wonder on what grounds. On what grounds are you able to say that? I don't think any of us are 100% sure. Obviously, Dan Snyder's not there anymore, but what has this new ownership group proved in terms of they know how to be caught?
Starting point is 00:21:46 We don't know yet. You obviously won't have nearly as much off-the-field stuff and all that other bullshit that Dan Snyder kind of brought, but we don't know if they're going to be any good. None of those guys have been in the NFL before. Also, don't you think when you're getting drafted, Caleb Williams, all these guys, and you can call it hubris or whatever you want,
Starting point is 00:22:07 he believes he can be the guy to turn the Bears around. Well, if you're getting drafted at one, you're probably going to a place that wasn't fantastic last year. For sure. This year, different though. It's not even their number one overall pick. It's somebody else's number one overall pick. And at the end of the season, it was like they invested in the defense.
Starting point is 00:22:24 They invested in the running back now. they got weapons they've invested in yep it's like that's a perfect place for rookie quarterback yo which is why i wonder if this was all just for him to say we need caleb being washed it because his heart remember he was going to buy the washington with a gofundme that's right remember that whole thing was gonna happen a couple hundred million this is also the first time too the head the head coach and GM actually had their quarterback. Every single time the Bears have had a head coach, it was always from the previous head coach, GM. Which, once again, goes back to why RG3 was saying this place is stunk, which we, hey. So it's a new page. Acknowledge.
Starting point is 00:22:55 We acknowledge. Yes. We acknowledge. Of course. Always. We acknowledge that that's the case. We also acknowledge our tribal chief who will be there on Friday in Iowa live. 2,500 people allowed.
Starting point is 00:23:04 If we get 2,500 people there, that will be very dumb. But we acknowledge that the Bears have stunk. We acknowledge that. But it feels like with the new regime, things are maybe coming around. Joining us now is a guy who might have a little bit more information about what's going to take place draft night, maybe around the NFL as a whole. Senior NFL insider for ESPN, friend of the program, Michigan man. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Schefter.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Schefter! Schefter, our peer, RG3, said on his podcast that Caleb Williams should command to not go to the Chicago Bears because they haven't proven that they can take care of a top draft pick because of what happened with Justin Fields going from an 11th overall pick to a 2026 or 2025 sixth round draft pick in just a matter of a few years how'd that deal come together because it's being reported that there was other teams that were interested in justin fields but mulligata and justin fields wanted to go to pittsburgh was there better offers was this the market kind of how that justin fields pittsburgh thing come
Starting point is 00:24:01 together in your eyes chefty listen here's what I would say about that. Basically, there were teams at various points that might have had some interest in Justin Fields, but if the Bears had a better offer, a strong offer for Justin Fields, I think they would have acted upon that. Yes, he did want to go to Pittsburgh. That was his preference, upon that. Yes, he did want to go to Pittsburgh. That was his preference. But the fact of the matter also is that they unloaded him for a sixth round pick in 2025 that could go up to a fourth round pick. And he wanted to go there and they accommodated him in the end. But if there was a team out there that was offering the Sam Darnold package, a 2-4-6, I think they would have done that. They just didn't have it. They didn't have it from anybody else. And so when they didn't have strong offers and other teams that were out there filled their quarterback needs,
Starting point is 00:24:55 they went ahead and acquiesced and essentially said to him, okay, yeah, we'll sing it to Pittsburgh and we'll do it for a conditional sixth round pick that could go up to a four it's a nice fresh start for justin fields i think we're all pretty pumped for him mike tomlin has you know publicly and i think even you reported on our show uh either months ago or weeks ago how much tomlin likes justin fields feels like a perfect situation and russell wilson says hey his qb room about to be awesome so it feels like they're on safety are you breaking news right now is there something happening like literally as we speak uh no there's always but there's always Hey, SQB room about to be awesome. Are you breaking news right now? Is there something happening literally as we speak?
Starting point is 00:25:30 No, but there's always stuff going on. What do you think? Is now draft talk or is now still free agency conversation happening? Look, I think we're transitioning into the draft path, but the fact of the matter is that there's still some leftover stuff that's just lingering out there. So until that stuff gets cleaned up, then there'll still be stuff going on. For instance, Tone Diggs has a question for you, Shefty. Yeah, Adam, you reported that Michael—
Starting point is 00:25:52 Well, hold on. We tried to tell you. We tried to tell you that the Steelers did like Justin Fields and Russell Wilson. Shefty, you were right on, and I've never doubted you. Proud of you, bud. That's awesome. That's real. That's a good thing to have happen if you're in your job. That's a good thing to have. Now you've also told
Starting point is 00:26:11 us Steelers fans that Mike Williams is going to be visiting this week as well as visiting the Jets and Panthers. Some Colts fans are saying that he might be visiting there too. I'm not sure about that. Is that a courting situation with Mike Williams where these teams are courting him or he's trying to see if it's a fit?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Because I know this late in free agency, is he trying to drum up interest? What's the situation with Mike Williams? Well, he's scheduled to visit Pittsburgh later in the week. He's scheduled to be the last visit. Now, I say scheduled because in free agency, you never know if these visits are going to come off. I think the Chargers, now that they've traded Keenan Allen, have an interest in bringing him back. And for all we know, he's leveraging these visits into a better deal with
Starting point is 00:26:49 the Chargers. You just don't ever really know until it's done. But as it is right now, he's scheduled to arrive in New Jersey tonight to visit with the Jets tomorrow, to then go to Carolina to visit with the Panthers, to then go to visit with the Steelers while the Chargers have some interest. Where he ends up from that group, we don't know yet, but those are his options right now. What about the Colts, Shefty? How much money are the Chargers paying him? He's not going to the Colts.
Starting point is 00:27:13 I've not heard the Colts connected to Mike Williams. What's that all about? Why don't you tell him? Get connected. Why don't you send, hey Chris, don't you think maybe a 6'7 guy who can still – and how many games? How many games whenever we looked it up? So he played in three last year, but then basically the rest of his career
Starting point is 00:27:32 he's played at least 13 in his season. He's big. So there's going to be – Not as – I'm saying his reputation is that he's always, always hurt. I don't think he's as hurt as people think. Well, and I think you potentially dove into that because he might be a stealer. Just like you were diving in on Mr. Danger Witch and Mr. Unlimited.
Starting point is 00:27:50 You know, kind of selling yourself. Why not? How much are the Chargers paying him still? $20 million against their cap. What's that mean? That means they're probably paying him $18 or $17? They have to pay him next year or no? Basically, Mike Williams cap savings, 20 million dead money, 12 million dollars, 12.46 million.
Starting point is 00:28:15 Obviously, if you're redoing a deal on him, that's a totally separate deal. So they've moved on from they've cut him, but they have an interest in bringing him back as well. OK, I'm excited to see how it pans out. I assume there's a lot of people fascinated because Calvin Ridley goes. K.J. Osborne gets signed. Look out. You know, the wide receiver market up to the Patriots. Obviously, that's why you heard Connor say that.
Starting point is 00:28:35 So let's stay in free agency before we move to the draft. Ty's got a question for you. Yeah, Chevy, what's going on with Justin Simmons? It seemed like early on, you know, people were kind of connecting the Eagles to him maybe and then they obviously went a different route. But he's a pro bowler. Obviously, he's getting a little bit older, but I figured he would be one of those guys who would
Starting point is 00:28:53 get signed pretty quickly, but we haven't really heard much in terms of interest for him. Where do you see him winding up? I don't have a projected home for you right now. I think in part because the safety market has been so crowded. If you go back and look, that may have been the most crowded position. They're a running back and the running backs went on early, but the safeties
Starting point is 00:29:15 are still out there. And Justin Simmons is going to be pretty selective as a guy who's intercepted more passes than any player in the league since 2018. So he can afford to be a little bit selective. I don't know where he's going to wind up right now. I don't have a home to give you for Justin Simmons. But again, you look at the safeties that have been out there. Jamal Adams is still out there. Other safety is still out there. Justin Simmons is still out there. Don't have a home for you right now. Okay, let's stay in the secondary as you got two more calls while Ty was asking. Is there something popping off right now, Shefty? Can you see
Starting point is 00:29:47 as the texts are coming in? What happens? It goes black? Shefty, I see everything. I hear everything. I see everything. Hey, Wall Street Journal, I see you. And I will not forget. Okay, I will not. Is there something cooking right now? Is there something cooking?
Starting point is 00:30:02 You got people texting like that. That's what it is. What are they saying? Hey, Chef D, how's your Monday? Are you filling out a bracket? Is there any small talk about humans in the middle of your work during your text messages? Some. Very little.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Hey, how's the family? Good. All right, we'll sign this guy. Is that how it goes? No one gives a crap about the family right now, Pat. Yeah, you're right. It is this. Well, I also saw your screen time was at like 17 hours and 23 minutes or something.
Starting point is 00:30:31 So talking about caring about family, I think your family's probably a little bit worried about like, that's from the moment you wake up to the moment you go to sleep. You're on your phone brushing teeth, the whole thing. Hey, we appreciate your sacrifice. Thank you, Jeff. Your eyes are going to suck. We assume you're burning something in your brain as well. We don't know what the future
Starting point is 00:30:49 holds for you from all your screen time. You know what? I'll just tell you this. I've noticed over time that your brain becomes rewired to the point where it used to be that after the draft, I would save like two or three books a year to read. I loved reading. I can't even tell you the last time I read a book.
Starting point is 00:31:07 My brain has been rewired to not be able to sit down and concentrate on something and just let yourself go. I used to love to go to the movies. I don't remember the last time I went to the movies at all. Nor do I have the attention span to sit there for two hours or three hours for Oppenheimer to watch a movie all those movies are three hours because they just got so much shit they need to say but it's tough what you're talking about is what we all suffer from
Starting point is 00:31:34 I think that are probably in this fear not as much as you but like yeah that's an addiction to your phone for sure that's what we get it's rewired your brain the action even of checking your phone is part of it. Like smokers, you know, they can get people's bodies to be away from it. But a lot of people like the action of smoking.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Like checking your phone is like something I think that your leg will even vibrate as if you're getting a text message or something when it's in your pocket. We're all ruined. We're all going to have to go to rehab. You know what's funny about that? A couple of years ago, a couple of mutual friends invited me down to the masters for the day i had never been before i'd never been so they didn't tell me that you're not allowed to have your phone on the course so you have to like check your phone and make sure that it's not with you and so if i had known that i probably wouldn't have gone but i did go and i'm walking around it was the first time that i ever been without my
Starting point is 00:32:24 phone and just like you're saying like a smoker reaching but i kept reaching into my pockets like but I did go and I'm walking around it was the first time that I ever been without my phone and just like you're saying like a smoker reaching but I kept reaching into my pocket to like go get the phone that wasn't there you're a fiend chef you're a fiend we all are we all are they got us all let's talk about maybe some news that's coming through there the Colts are signing Sneed you know he's on a franchise tag with the Kansas City Chiefs there was a blogger named Destin Adams who covers the Indianapolis Colts this weekend who said I have it on good authority that Snead is going to be an Indianapolis
Starting point is 00:32:50 Colter that they're in the lead potentially in trying to get him. Diana Rossini I believe obviously formerly of your insider team over there at ESPN now at The Athletic. She's saying that she's hearing the same thing. I'm pretty Zeeked up. I'm Snead up if that's the case if we're
Starting point is 00:33:05 doing is that happening here in indy and how does this feels like a lot more franchise tag negotiations with other teams taking place as opposed to other years i will i will read to you the comments that uh i sent to my news desk on sunday morning uh when they asked me that very same question about whether sneed was headed in there. I'm looking for the exact comments. Basically, here we go. Voting Adam Schefter. Well, actually, I don't want to read the exact comments because they're actually rather defensive.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Let's just say this. What? What? They haven't had any conversations. Hold on. Hold the phone. We'll get back to that. What are the actual comments?
Starting point is 00:33:44 You got F-bombs in there? Is Shefty just dropping F-bombs in the middle of these texts to the news desk? I'll say the exact thing was the two sides quote-unquote haven't had any conversations. Colts and Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Oh boy. Is that real? 100%. Not happening. Now, It's complete horseshit. Is that real? That was yesterday. 100%. Not happening. Now, could that change? Could that change? Sure. Bum. But no, that's not happening, Pat.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Sorry. Yeah. It doesn't sound like you're sorry. Man. Scroll through your phone. I want to break this guy's heart. I'm deeply remorseful. I'm deeply remorseful to deliver the news that disappoints you anytime.
Starting point is 00:34:25 I never want to see you and all the boys there disappointed. I want you to be happy, right? Thank you, Schefter. We appreciate it. We want you to be happy, too. We hope you get a chance to enjoy life sometime away from your phone. But until then, we need you to continue to be on the inside information world of the NFL. Is Snead talking?
Starting point is 00:34:40 Are the Chiefs talking anywhere else? Or is their conversation happening anywhere else? Or are we just assuming he's going to be a Chief next year, just like Higgins is seemingly assuming he's going to be a Bengal next year under the franchise tag? Yeah, I think there have been some conversations going on, but I know the Chiefs have no problems. Other people are talking to him, though.
Starting point is 00:34:57 The Chiefs have no problems right now playing with him on that tag. He wants a long-term deal, so it's up to him and his agent to see if they can help broker a deal and structure something to get him the long-term security that he wants. But no, nothing right now has gotten done. The Colts are not expected to be in on him. The Colts and Chiefs have not discussed a deal for LeJarrius Snead, at least to date. Could that change? You never know. You never know, but no conversations between those two teams. And that's where we're at right now.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Last question about free agency, and it goes back to Justin Fields. They knew they were going to trade him for a long time, or this came together quick? No, I think they were always open to moving him. I think that they knew that they were locked in on picking a quarterback at one. And I think it was a question of finding the right spot for him at the right time. Again, nobody expected it to be Saturday for the price that it was, but it was going to happen at some point or another. It just so happened that it was Saturday, but yeah, they were going to trade him and they were were I believe they were intent
Starting point is 00:36:05 on picking a quarterback at one all along. I think that was the plan. I think Justin Fields made that pretty clear. They made that pretty clear. He unfollowed him, but he still matched with some girls you don't follow on Instagram. They show up on the Explorer page. If the Bears
Starting point is 00:36:22 got something that's supposed to be a meagre, it'll show up on my Explorer page. Here the Bears got something that's supposed to be a Meaghe, it'll show up on my Explorer page, is what Justin Fields said. Now all he's got is Brett Michaels waving that terrible towel. Here we go, Steelers. Here we go. They're jacked up in Pittsburgh. Justin Fields should feel very good landing in the 4-1-2 area. Now let's say with the draft, shall we?
Starting point is 00:36:41 Connor's got a question for you. Yeah, Shefty, big news last week was the vikings getting that other first round pick from the texans is it a easy assumption that they will be the team that's going to try and jump up into that you know top five top ten picks to get a quarterback and who would be the team that is trading out is it the commies is it the patriots is it one of those teams at five or six like the chargers or giants or who are you eyeing for the vik Vikings to move up with? Well, there's the board, the big board, as we look at it right there. And here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:37:10 The Vikings are definitely interested in making more moves. They're sitting there right now with picks 11 and 23. And I think a lot of it depends on draft night. Like, I'm making this up, but say they love Jaden Daniels and say the commanders go Drake May at two and Jaden Daniels gets to three. You wouldn't think that they're prepared to go to three, but maybe the guy that they want slides to three and they make a bold play to go up and give up even more than they thought. You have to see how the board's unfolding. Do I think that they could trade up in advance of the draft? Sure. They're going to look for it. They have the ammunition
Starting point is 00:37:41 to do it. The trade on Friday positions them to go make another move. Now, I think it's hard to do that in advance until you see how the board is falling and how the quarterbacks are coming off the board. But there's no doubt that the Minnesota Vikings are interested in a quarterback. There's no doubt that they are interested in trying to move up again. And again, the question becomes, when do they do it and for who? And that's what we're going to wait to see what happens with. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Hey, that's what it's all about, Shefty. Who's doing what, where, and when? That's right. And why? Why not even dive into the why in that entire thing? And that's why we have you join us. We appreciate you, Shefty. What news should we be looking out for?
Starting point is 00:38:22 And what are you, DraftKnight, are you on ABC, ESPN? Where are you at? Pat, I'm on wherever they tell me to be on, but I would expect that I'd be on ESPN in Detroit, and we'll see how that goes. What is it? What is it? Guys, have a great day.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Love you. All right, see you. I like you, Adam Shefty. Yeah, Shefty. So now we will watch his Twitter account, which, hold on, he's still on the screen. He just said, what's going on? He tried to figure it out. See, we were just trying to steal one there.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I just want to let you guys know, behind the scenes, he was still on camera here, talking on phone. Trying to read lips. He wasn't able to figure out how to get out of the FaceTime, so we were going to try to read lips and figure out what that news was. Feels like something's coming, though. He got six calls, and then he had to answer that last one. Something has to be cooking somewhere.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Maybe it's Justin Simmons. Maybe it's Mike Williams. Maybe it's a trade for the draft. T. Higgins, perhaps. Maybe T. Higgins on his way out. Maybe Snead's going anywhere but Indianapolis. What was that all about? Yeah, what a bummer.
Starting point is 00:39:18 He didn't soften that one. No, he said, I want to scroll through this. Oh, well, I can't because my first text says, we're listening to bloggers. That's probably what he said. Yeah, exactly. Listen, I want to scroll through this. Oh, well, I can't because my first text says, we're listening to bloggers. That's probably what he said. Yeah, exactly. Listen, I love Destin Adams. I've appreciated his coverage of the Indianapolis Colts
Starting point is 00:39:32 for all the years that he's done it. That's right. And anybody that's invested in the Indianapolis Colts, I have a lot of love for. Sure. And when his tweets started going that he, you know, had information, obviously it was not like this guy definitely knows. But it certainly was a, wait a minute, I like what I'm hearing here.
Starting point is 00:39:51 So I'm going to go ahead and hope that this is accurate because it's going to carry a narrative that I would like to see happen. And then what does Schefter do? He just dumps on it. No chance. Didn't he? Yeah. He went right into the portage on, sat down, dumped on it.
Starting point is 00:40:05 He said, they have not even had a convo. It was liquid, too. Yeah, it was messy. It was a St. Patrick's Day dump. Yeah, it was. Like Tommy did at the Patron Saint. Just like Tommy dumps. We saw a guy down at the Patron Saint on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Tommy dumps. We saw a guy at Patron Saint on Saturday night when we were doing St. Patrick's Day. We did St. Patrick's Day this weekend. Yes, we did. Had to do it. Went to the Oakmont. Supposed to have dinner. Then I was going to Supercross. Patrick's Day. We did St. Patrick's Day this weekend. Yes, we did. Had to do it. Went to the Oakmont. Supposed to have dinner. Then I was going to Supercross. Hard to get dinner. Makes sense. I was going to do dinner.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Then I was going to Supercross. They were in town. Shout out to Supercross. Thank you for coming through Indianapolis. They're very kind, very nice, very hospitable. They offered us up to go and have a good time. So the wife and I are going to do a little date night. Since we've got to go to Lucas Oil Stadium, we'll have dinner downtown. We stop by the Oakmont. We're going to get these quesadillas that they have.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Oh, yeah. That are just fantastic. We're going to have a night. Who did I see? Oh, the downtown boys are there. Of course. Because they live there. Shocker.
Starting point is 00:40:52 They just got done with the worst bartender they've ever had, they said. New bartender comes in, brand new. And we're having it. We literally just got in there. Vibes were through the roof. Immaculate. And it's like, oh, wait, it is St. Patrick's Day. We start boozing a little bit.
Starting point is 00:41:03 What? One espresso and martini. What? One espresso and martini. What? Two espresso and martinis. What? We're taking green tea shots. What? Wait a minute, another one?
Starting point is 00:41:10 What? Well, my wife doesn't want to take that one. She dumps it into my cup. I'm taking a double green tea shot right now. What? Yeah. All of a sudden, the night became something much different than I thought. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:19 No longer are we going to Mega Cross. Seems like we're having a St. Patty's Day. So we want to go stop over at Pachink Saint, which my wife's what's the one that's the most important one in a wedding? Maid of Honor. There it is. Owns. So we're like, yeah, we'll go stop by there. That place is a club.
Starting point is 00:41:36 No windows. Unbelievable. No windows. It's in a basement. There's a VIP section that Gumpy found himself in. Massive VIP. Gumpy was in his VIP. Hey, get down from there! Full on. Full on. Having a time of his life. I think section that gumpy found himself in a few different vip gumpy was in this vip just i mean full on having a time of his life i think connor found his way into the vip there's this guy named algae that was running security he got boozed up he was in there there was an entire situation but the bathroom you know it's one of those bathrooms where there's like a trough and then there is a
Starting point is 00:42:03 stall but there's no door on the stall. You're not doing cocaine in here. Pretty much is what that says to me. Just a toilet. That's what that says to me in there. Like a Pittsburgh toilet. Bingo. Just a toilet sitting there.
Starting point is 00:42:13 So we walk in, St. Patrick's Day, a lot of bladders being active. And there's a guy full on dumping in there. I mean, pants down around ankles. Just staring. Staring at everybody walking in. I turn a corner and I just make eye contact with this guy taking a dump. ankles. Just staring. Staring at everybody walking in. I've never seen... I turn a corner and I just make eye contact with this guy taking a dump. He's got his hand
Starting point is 00:42:30 out. He goes, no way, Pat McAfee's in here. Watching me dump. Sometimes you gotta go. Cup, cup. Two-hand cup in his nuts. Oh my god, Pat McAfee's in here watching me dump. That's not his fault. That's the place's fault. I agree. If you're gonna dump, I don't know if that's necessarily a place you should
Starting point is 00:42:45 find yourself. There is an upstairs that has a full on bathroom upstairs. Single stall, walk on the door. I didn't know that. So we had that full conversation because the moxie of this fellow we were nothing short of impressed with. So his name was Tommy. He had a great personality. He did wash his hands. I don't know how many wipes
Starting point is 00:43:02 because we didn't want to check it out. And he said, oh my, nobody's going to believe that this. Nobody's going to believe that you guys are in here. And I want to say, nobody's going to believe that you took a dump in here. No way. So we met Tommy Dumps, took a photo with him. And he had a tattoo on his thigh. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Certainly a bet. Saw the whole thing. Saw the whole damn thing. But we had to say, Paddy, we certainly did. Yeah, to be fair to Tommy Dumps, too, he wasn't just dropping a little steam. He dropped a boatload of steam because when I went in after him, boy, oh, boy, that toilet was painted in it red. Wait, was there eye contact? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Oh, yeah. He was greeting everybody. Oh, yeah. Welcome to the bathroom. You know, just like, I've never seen the confidence on a guy. I mean, just absolute confidence. Just being able to do that. I will say, Best Man at My Wedding has done two public dumps like that before. Well, congrats to him.
Starting point is 00:43:50 Him and Tommy Dumps did get together to see who's got more moxie. And I think it's going to be Tommy Dumps. He got up and he had a couple. They had chains. Yeah, they were doing bar crawls. I think he was a part of two of them. Okay. He had two different.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Which I don't even know how you. Respect. Word on the street is, too, he pooped on three of the bars. It was a poop crawl. That's actually what he was doing. He was dubbed the poop master. He was dumping in every spot. We hope everybody had a great St. Patrick's Day.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I hope everybody got a chance to watch that golf. BGA had a hell of a Sunday. I assume all week it was, but Sunday got a chance to catch up. Scotty Scheffler's a dog. My God. He was down five going into the final day. Xander Shoffley had the lead.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I believe there was a Harmon sighting late. There was. And I like the fact that the TV people started catching him mid-wiggle. So at the beginning of his run, they were showing him before his entire, he even stepped off one did the entire thing it was later in the day whenever he was like on 13 14 15 as he was doing they would cut to him after he had already done all of his stuff so then he's shooting and he's self-admittedly like yeah it's a problem it's a problem i'm gonna have to get through it that's on me i couldn't
Starting point is 00:44:59 even imagine what he's saying to himself every single shot. So the fact that he does well is certainly a miracle. But Scottie Scheffler is in a form right now with that beard that is like, yo, this is a guy. Scottie Scheffler is a guy. Liv needs to get Scottie Scheffler. Yeah, call him. Liv needs to get Scottie Scheffler because he is carrying PGA. He couldn't putt for so long, and he was still top five,
Starting point is 00:45:26 and he got sucked at putting. Yesterday, he put one from 80 feet to an inch whenever he had a big breaking cut on 17 and everything. So it was fun to watch. Thank you to golf for having a great Sunday. Genuinely appreciate it. Shout out to Wyndham Clark, who had a heartbreak of a moment on 18.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Puts the ball close. All you need is a bird, pal. Catch up to Scottie Scheffler. You're at 19 under. Scottie's at 20 under. Oh, you rolled it. It's in. It's in.
Starting point is 00:45:53 It's done. Let's go. We're going to extra holes. Oh, man. Brutal. Heartbreak. Yep. Heartbreak.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Heartbreak. It was happy Gilmore. With that clown at putt-putt. Yep, truly. Where he finally makes it up that dumb clown's mouth and tongue, rolls all the way in there, and the clown goes, nope. That was to go to extra holes to win a tournament. And with the way he had been playing, I think he birdied the last three holes or would have birdied the last three holes.
Starting point is 00:46:19 He was hot. Scotty Scheffler already done because he was five down, remember? So he finished a little bit earlier. He was on the putting range. He was putting a little bit over there. So a hot Wyndham Clark was going to get a chance to go to extra holes with Scottie Scheffler to win the players in front of a very good crowd down there in Jacksonville at TPC Sawgrass.
Starting point is 00:46:35 And instead the hole said, nah, I don't think so, pal. This dude's got a beard. He's number one in the world for 78 weeks now. Tiger did 683 weeks at one. 11 more years. 11 more years, Scotty. Golf was good yesterday, though. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:46:53 PGA golf was good. It's starting to heat up because it's actually starting to get the actual golf season. Like with the Arnie last week, it was Scotty and Wyndham Clark won two. And then with the players this week, it was Scotty and Wyndham won two. And Xander being up there and Fitzpatrick was up there and Harmon was up there. It was and then with the players this week, it was Scotty and Wyndham won two, and Xander being up there, and Fitzpatrick was up there, and Harmon was up there. It was a really good leaderboard this last two weekends, so hopefully this continues.
Starting point is 00:47:12 In the back of your head, you're always saying, I wish those other guys on the other tour were playing in this too, because then it would be even better. Liv, I've tried to watch. Yep. They were on this weekend? I didn't try this weekend. Oh, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:25 I'd seen Paddy's on Saturday. What the PGA did on Sunday. Right into selection Sunday. It was like perfect timing. Perfect timing. Thank you for that. Getting to hang with the baby girl. Wife and I both like, damn. Nursing her hangovers, drinking water.
Starting point is 00:47:41 A little Pedialy hanging out. Golf's on in the background. put the baby girl down to nap. Well, who's passing out? I think we're all napping, aren't we? I'm napping in this entire thing. It was a perfect Sunday. Right into Selection Sunday where we got to learn about the bracket. Now, have we followed the college basketball world closely enough
Starting point is 00:47:59 to be the ones that give you the opinions on how you should be picking your bracket? Absolutely not. But we'll have Reese Davidson next hour for the men's bracket. Perfect. So everything he says, we hold it as truth. And if he gets it wrong, we yell at him. We'll also have Elle Duncan on in the next hour to break down the women's college basketball bracket
Starting point is 00:48:17 because she hosts College Game Day alongside Reese hosting College Game Day. So we'll have a chance to talk to both hosts of the show that has followed the college basketball season all year. But for those that missed the bracket talk, Tone Diggs has something for you. I think it's time that we be doing the news, doing the news, doing the news, doing the news with Tone Diggs! Doing the news. Doing the news with Tony!
Starting point is 00:48:49 Tony, give us some bracket news. Let's do the news. NCAA tournament version. Let's start, first and foremost, with the snubs. Let's not go very far, Pat. Let's stay right here in this great state of Indiana with Indiana State, who was 28-6 this regular season. And let me talk to you about their net ranking.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Which means? N-E-T ranking. Bingo. I've seen it a lot. Yeah. They were 29th. Why is that important? No team in the history of the NCAA who's been in the top 30 of net ranking has ever missed the tournament.
Starting point is 00:49:27 And sure, people are like, who cares about Indiana State? I'm sorry, have you seen Robbie Bobavia? You're talking about, I don't think that's his name. You just said a couple different names there. It's Robbieavia, but I like to take the Bob in there. Just in case it is also Bobby. You're talking about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? Yes, I am.
Starting point is 00:49:44 You're talking about theareem Abdul-Jabbar? Yes, I am. You're talking about the big white hope? Yep. You're talking about, oh my God, is that a thicker version of Larry Bird? Yes. Is that Larry Crow instead of Larry Bird? Rob. Yeah, we don't get to see this dude cook in the dance, and their team earned it this year. Now, don't get it
Starting point is 00:50:00 twisted. This Ball State team he's playing against right here studs. Good basketball. They're so good at basketball. They're smacking the floor. That's what we're talking about when we're talking about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. He's a passing machine. He's like the Joker. He's not scared to do a little no-look pass behind the back, lay up how
Starting point is 00:50:16 we do and shoot. He has this Indiana State team back to being as relevant as they were when Larry freaking Bird was playing for them. This state was buzzing. Indiana men's basketball team. Did they make it in? I don't think so. No, they didn't.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Everybody's riding behind the sycamores, the trees over there in Terre Haute, Indiana. Now, Purdue, they lost in the Big Ten Championship, which some people say was going to happen. Again. But they're a two-seater, I think, in this time. They got a one. They got a nice path. They do. They do. A very easy path. Which they're going to happen. Again. But there are two seed, I think, in this time. They got one. They got a nice path.
Starting point is 00:50:46 They do. They do. A very easy path. Which they're going to make it. And Indiana State should have been able to meet them there at the national championship.
Starting point is 00:50:53 But instead, a group of people that are in Carmel, Indiana, okay, about an hour and a half away from where this school is, said, we don't want this
Starting point is 00:51:01 fat, slow, cream Abdul-Jabbar in the dance. Shame. We're done with that. We're mad about it. We're sick about it. And we don't want this fat, slow, cream Abdul-Jabbar in the dance. We're done with that. We're mad about it. We're sick about it. And we don't like it. But snubs are the story.
Starting point is 00:51:10 The day after the brackets are released every year, this year it just so happens to be with one of the most electrifying basketball players that has ever stepped foot on a court. Go ahead, Tony. Sorry we interrupted. Yeah, Indiana State was one of the teams that was snubbed. There was an entire conference that kind of should feel not so good today about being snubbed, and that's the Big East. Now, is it the same teams
Starting point is 00:51:30 as the Glory Days Big East? It is not. But the Big East is still a very respectable conference. They have won seed in the UConn and the defending national champion. It's a very good conference, but they only got three teams in, and three of the teams that were left out that probably should have been in were Providence, Seton Hall, and then the Johnnies.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Come on. Those were three teams that people said definitely should have been in. So that was, as a conference, the Big East. They're still playing in Madison Square Garden? The tournament? Yeah. Okay. So still worthy of playing in Madison Square Garden.
Starting point is 00:52:00 Oh, yeah, 100%. They got the national champion. We don't like the Big East all of a sudden. Rick Pitino. Golly. I'm so mad about these teams not making it. You said the Johnny should have made it? You don't leave Pitino out of this. Well, how about the University of Pittsburgh?
Starting point is 00:52:13 Yeah, so a lot of people. Pitt got left out after they made a decent run in the ACC tournament. Had a really good regular season. But people are saying they're non-con, okay? Their non-conference schedule was about as cupcake as it gets, like 334 in the nation or something like that. And they said the committee, this was basically slapping them on the wrist for that saying, hey, we need better basketball earlier in the season.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Sorry about it, Pitt. Kenny Pickett traded out of town. Basketball team can't make it. Sorry about it. Dan Marino is still killing it, though. Let's talk about some of the teams that got in, though, okay? One of those teams from the ACC. This team was plus
Starting point is 00:52:49 10,000, 100-1 to win the ACC tournament. NC State won five games in five days to win the ACC tournament and get in was one of the huge stories this weekend. Another huge story this weekend. A great story. Long Beach State, okay? Monday of last week, one week ago, seven days weekend. A great story. Long Beach State, okay? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Monday of last week. One week ago. Seven days ago. Fired their coach. See ya. But they said, hey, you can still coach the tournament. Because we won't be able to find somebody in three days. Guess what they did?
Starting point is 00:53:17 They won that tournament. Now they are going to the tournament. They are in the bracket. And that coach, he's not even an employee there anymore. They already fired him. So it's a weird situation, but quite an interesting one. Haven't been in 17 years. This is a huge day for Long Beach State. And that coach is just going right into free agency here,
Starting point is 00:53:35 taking a team that has not been into the dance in 17 years into the dance. Good for him. Thanks for doing me a favor, Long Beach State. And I like the way the boys rallied around their coach. Hey, you don't think he's a good coach? Watch us do something in the Big West that hasn't happened here in 17 years. Another coach we are celebrating today is Keith Danbrot, who actually retired this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:53:57 So it's going to be a win-win for the Gippers situation. For what school? Oh, I don't know. Duquesne University, okay? Right there in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Sorry, Pitt, didn't get in. Doesn't matter. Your team's already in the tournament.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Yeah, oh, Keith, Coach Keith. Coach Keith Danbra. LeBron's high school coach at St. Vincent St. Mary's. Oh, yeah, we've been talking about this all year. A lot of people are saying he might be retiring to coach the Lakers for the playoff run. I'm not sure. I like that.
Starting point is 00:54:23 But it's a situation. First time Duquesne's been in the tournament since 1977. So quite an awesome situation. It's a great day to be at Duke, baby. Great day to be at Duke. Congrats, Tony. That's Coach Dan brought right there. Thank you for your service, Coach Dan brought.
Starting point is 00:54:37 And as soon as I seen that LeBron tweet about Duquesne, I sent it right over to the town. I'm like, we like lebron endorsing stuff now we like russell wilson now we like justin fields now okay pittsburgh is all of a sudden like pop icons pittsburgh is the topic of pop culture this is what we're talking about braun braun's got the dukes back i think you're gonna need them though if you want to get through that bracket you guys are in what no i mean listen we got byu and then we're going to close. They're 30 and mature and have a family.
Starting point is 00:55:07 It's alright, but the bracket of death is the East region who has UConn as the one team who won the Big East. Iowa State, the two seed who won the Big 12. Illinois, the three seed who won the Big 10. Auburn, the four seed who won the SEC. The East is the
Starting point is 00:55:23 region of death this year. That's what people were saying. A lot of champions. And we talked about this earlier today. When they're making these brackets, are they matchmaking too? Because they know TV exists? How do you not do that? How do you look at a team and you don't go,
Starting point is 00:55:39 ah, we can put them at an eight so that they potentially run into this person? We could feasibly explain our way out of them being a four seed so we can get this matchup in two rounds if we get it. That's got to be a tough job. Like me yelling about Indiana State not being in there, I watched zero of their games. I have no idea. I could imagine putting this entire thing together is very difficult,
Starting point is 00:56:02 but there's some big-time games in the men's, also in the women's. Somehow Iowa and LSU, the national championship game last year, which we thought they were going to keep LSU in one, SC in another, Iowa in another. And now is Virginia Tech? They're a four. So I don't know who the other school is. But you would have thought they would have kept them away from each other.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Instead, we got an Elite Eight potential matchup between Angel Reese and Kaitlyn Clark in the women's side. We got a lot of good potential matchups cooking, but in the end, you're only going to get a couple of the seemingly big names towards it. So, shot to them just looking for competitive. Albany, too. Albany, too, is a tough region. Very tough. You're damn right.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Albany 1 is kind of weird. We'll be celebrating it Friday, live from the University of Iowa. You can come watch us at the Fieldhouse, not the bar. No. Sports! Are fantastic. And we'll be talking about the sport of basketball a good bit here in about 15 to 20 minutes as L. Duncan and Reese Davis join us
Starting point is 00:57:02 to break down what's going on in brackets. Hmm. As we all try to figure out who the hell we're going to take to win the entire damn thing in both the men's and the women's March Madness tournaments this year because there's like a billion dollars on the line. We get it perfect. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:15 That's right. I don't know who it is. Maybe it's Bill Gates. Maybe it's somebody else. Buffett. Warren Buffett offering up a billion for a perfect bracket. That's going to come from our conversations with Elle and with Reese in a matter of moments.
Starting point is 00:57:26 The Talks of the Table is here at Boss of Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Whenever the Hammer, Cowboys, and Pride, Duke and Duke. Pride. Tom Diggs is here. Watch that whole game yesterday. I see you got a Russell Wilson Bears card there in front of you. Justin Fields Bears card. Oh, sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Justin Fields. That's on me. New quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. That was gifted to me from Zito to me. Passing of the torch, sorry, sorry. Justin Fields, that's on me. New quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. That was gifted to me from Zito to me. Passing of the torch, if you will. I said, this organization will do him right, unlike yours. Yeah, and just like
Starting point is 00:57:54 you guys treated Kenny Pickett, I'm sure there's probably a similar feeling. Oh, you sound like one of those Kenny crybabies. What are you talking about? Justin Fields is fine with competition. He asked for it. Bingo. Chose Pittsburgh. Isn't Kenny Pickett
Starting point is 00:58:08 going to be behind Jalen Hurts, though? Yeah. So he's cool with the competition there? That kind of debunks everything you guys are saying. I don't know. There's no competition. There's no competition in Pittsburgh either, right? Because Russell Wilson's the guy. I think he maybe
Starting point is 00:58:25 respects Jalen Hurts more than Russ is what it sounds like. Kenny Pickett did seemingly go through some stuff. He did. He was the Prince of Pittsburgh. It was a short time he was there as a Steeler. Long time he was there as the University of Pittsburgh Panther. And he also liked this tweet from Tom Pelissero.
Starting point is 00:58:44 So we're assuming this is his view on things. How did this go sideways, Tom Pellicero said. Mike Tallman had promised Kenny Pickett he'd get a chance to compete. Pickett learned about the Russell Wilson signing on social media Sunday night. When they spoke the next morning, Tallman told Pickett that Wilson was in pole position and would get the first reps. So Pickett asked for a trade. Now he's an Eagle. Kenny Pickett liked it. He put that on his thing. 7-3-2, nice South Jersey.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Over to the 4-1-2. Now he's in Philadelphia. He has a Philadelphia Eagle, a team that he was a fan of growing up. Needs to put the plane back to 7-3-2 in his ex-bio there up top of it. But I think this explains the whole situation. He was told, yeah, you're not the starter. Russell Wilson, a guy that we just signed for $1.2 million last night without telling you about, will be the starter in pole position.
Starting point is 00:59:32 For those that don't know, in racing, the pole position is what you're doing time trials for the days before the race to find out who starts where. Pole position, you want to be on the pole. You want to be on top of the pole. You want to be riding the top of the pole in the racing world.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Russell Wilson is riding the top of the pole as the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback. That's what he told Kenny Pickett. Kenny Pickett says, bullshit. This is bullshit. What are we talking about? You guys have me playing on Matt Canada's offense. The guy ran jet sweep every other play.
Starting point is 01:00:04 We didn't even have an office exactly then you guys get a new offense coordinator i have success i get hurt mason rudolph has success all of a sudden he's the hero he's the guy i get back oh yeah i don't even get an opportunity to play they asked me hey did you learn anything from sitting out watching mason no you know what i learned is i got hurt the wrong time i've been playing with that doofus matt canada who didn't even know offense so going into this he's had full off playing with that doofus Matt Canada who didn't even know offense. So going into this season, he's had a full offseason with Artie Smith, the man who has had good enough offense
Starting point is 01:00:28 to be hired as a head coach at one point his entire NFL career. And now Kenny Pickett said, oh, Russell Wilson, the guy who played for the Denver Broncos last year is starting over me? Get me out of here. And you guys are all nitpicking about it.
Starting point is 01:00:40 Absolutely. Not worried about it. You guys called him Kenny Crybaby. Yeah, you wanted him out. Not me. No, I just called him Mark's Kenny Crybaby. There's no doubt about it. The Steelers did not dobaby. Not me. No, I just called him Mark's Kenny Crybaby. There's no doubt about the Steelers did not do Kenny
Starting point is 01:00:49 in a lot of situations. Kenny got screwed. Did not even mention he had one of the worst O-lines in his couple years there too. Everybody get off Kenny's ass. And they've really fixed that too so the next quarterbacks come in and they're going to have a better O-line, a better offense coordinator, a whole better situation. And they've really fixed that, too, so the next quarterbacks come in and they're going to have a better line, a better offense coordinator,
Starting point is 01:01:05 a whole better situation. And do I feel bad about Kenny's situation? Sure. But did he handle it correctly at the end? Doesn't sound like it. Okay. Sounded like he was. In whose eyes?
Starting point is 01:01:15 In Steelers fans' eyes? Well, yeah. What about Tomlin? Every day's a competition, Kenny Pickett. This ain't the Pitt Panthers. This is the Pittsburgh Steelers. Listen, yeah, maybe Coach Tomlin did tell him some things, but things change, okay?
Starting point is 01:01:27 When you get Russ Wilson, that guy's a starter. Did you see his new haircut? Did you see his evil villain age? He's got Pittsburgh faith. This is his Pittsburgh age. High and tight. His Pittsburgh era. Era's tour. Come to a city near you. Is that Matt Taylor Swift? Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Russ actually coaching up a little future in a Pittsburgh Pirates baseball uniform. That's right. Wearing Pittsburgh Steelers gear already. The guy gets it. And we had heard that he was asked to be shipped his jersey before getting to town because he wanted to do the new Threads video
Starting point is 01:01:58 where he could play Wiz Khalifa's Black and Yellow. He is very thankful and excited to be in Pittsburgh. Sounded like Kenny Pickett no longer wanted to be there no because of everything that took place fresh new beginning for both sides including justin fields yeah coming to the pittsburgh steelers congrats all of them it's gonna be awesome now everybody thinks during draft season that hey that guy threw a pretty spiral at the combine he's gonna be your next joe bur course. Oh, CJ Stroud, there's six of them in this draft. That's right. Tom Brady, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Look at this guy out of Kennesaw State. This is the next Tom Brady. Everybody thinks if you're drafting a quarterback in the first round, they're going to turn it all around. Let's not even go to the quarterback position just yet. Let's talk about all positions. People are hitting less than 50% whenever they're drafting people. Now, we throw around the word bust only for the big ones.
Starting point is 01:02:48 The big names, the big money, the big personalities, and the big failures. But guys not getting re-signed to their teams would ultimately be considered a bust. Hey, did not work out even though they invested a first-round draft pick on it. But we're part of the problem. We understand that. We have draft spectacular. We're having another one this year. It's going to be our biggest and best yet. Huge. We're on it. But we're part of the problem. We understand that. We have Draft Spectacular. We're having another one this year. It's going to be our biggest and best yet.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Huge. We're on location. We are trying to land a jumbo jet right now. A jumbo jet is trying to be landed for our Draft Spectacular, which has seemingly been our biggest show every single year. We're going to be on location in Detroit, and what
Starting point is 01:03:22 we have in store potentially is bigger than ever, but we're a part of the problem. When somebody gets drafted, everybody in the media, everybody from that person's school, everybody from the new team has to be like, yeah, this guy's going to get us over to home. This guy's going to win us a game. Has this guy played against adults? Has this guy played against 300 pounders that run four fives? Has this guy played against every generation before him, superstar, all-star players that only the great ones survive? Has this guy played against every generation before him, superstar, all-star players, that only the great ones survive? Has this guy played on a team that only has three roster spots open for younger guys because the generation before him, all of their studs are on this particular team?
Starting point is 01:03:55 We have no idea if any of these dudes are going to amount to shit. What are they going to be like with money in their pocket? What are they going to be like with free time? What are they going to be like with sophisticated defenses and offenses game planning specifically for them well if we go back in recent short history shout out to Ari Mirov who's a information aggregator for the 33rd team who we are a massive fan of I think he was in the real estate business before he decided to not sleep at all yes and just collect all information at my sports update he laid it all out there for us in a beautiful fashion the top quarterbacks drafted in 2021 and 2022 where are they now 2022 nfl draft let's start there that's only two years
Starting point is 01:04:29 ago yeah kenny pickett gone desmond ritter gone malik willis back up but probably yeah matt corral he's in a ufl remember out of old miss he's gonna be the guy yep he's got tattoos yeah he got he beat up wayne gretzky's kid yeah that private school he's like a blue collar guy yeah this dude's got moxie he's gonna be he's in a different league now Bailey Zappi previously cut now he's a backup talking to people as if he's a starter Sam Howell he's already been traded 2021 draft how about Zach Wilson gonna be traded Trey Lance traded Justin Fields traded Mac Jones traded Trevor Lawrence is the only dude that you would say worked at. And I assume there's some Jags fans
Starting point is 01:05:08 that are like, has it? There'd even be that case. So what we make the draft to be and what we make these college guys to be, what we assumed Kenny Pickett could potentially become, isn't necessarily going to be the case because the generations that we've been watching that have been laying the foundation of the NFL
Starting point is 01:05:24 are really good. NFL, really good. Really, really good players. Yeah. It's not easy just to get dropped in and be a superstar unless you're like C.J. Stroud. Right. Joey B. Sure. Many others that have been able to have success since the very beginning.
Starting point is 01:05:38 So we've got to cool the jets on all these dudes going into the draft night. And now that 2021, Kenny was the draft night and now that that 2021 that kenny was the only first rounder in that 2022 but that 2021 all five of those guys were first round draft picks too and that's what they're they're expecting is going to go this year five or six so like i hope that's not how it's going to turn out for this year's five or six well you're also hoping that justin fields is going to be really good yeah well yeah he just wasn't right situation yeah sure which is a big part of it which leads rg3 saying like caleb needs to say that chicago's not the right place to take care of me and command and demand that they don't draft him or that he goes somewhere else it's like
Starting point is 01:06:12 there's a lot of those teams that are picking at the top of the draft that aren't necessarily the most desirable positions that's why they're picking at the top of the draft which is where more money is too so like people forget, people forget, number one overall pick, number two overall pick, terrible situations normally. This year, better than most, because it's not their number one overall pick. It's actually the Panthers' number one overall pick. So, the Panthers' much worse team than them. Commanders' much worse team than them.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Patriots' much worse team than them last year. Cardinals' much worse team than them last year. So, it's like, this is actually a pretty good setup, but normally where all the high money is and high profile is up here, vastly different than what the signing is over there for 30, 31, 32, and next year's deal. Those are good situations
Starting point is 01:06:56 over there. That's why they're picking down there. These ones are going to suck. That's why they're there. Unless somebody trades up into it. So it's like, is Caleb Williams enough to come in there with a revamped defense, with weapons on offense, brand new running back, offensive line? Is he able to do his job well enough that the Chicago Bears maybe become relevant in the NFC North? There's a chance with Eber Flusch's culture hitting and Big Pol Pol's doing his thing.
Starting point is 01:07:22 There's a chance it's perfect. But history tells us this ain't going to work out for all these teams. There is going to be doom, gloom, failure, misery, and a lot of conversations about what if, if something else would have taken place. And I'm not saying it's always the player's fault. Normally it is organizational, but it's not just one organization that ruins things.
Starting point is 01:07:41 It's a lot of organizations that ruin things because they just can't get it right. It's not easy to do. Well, and Dano said it last week, and I think a lot of people have kind of been saying it more, but it does kind of lend credence when you see the Ari Mirov tweet. There's a good chance that a lot of these guys, they would benefit
Starting point is 01:07:58 greatly from sitting behind someone for a year or two. I have been thinking a lot lately about if Jordan Love started the year he got drafted by the Packers, there's no way he would still be a Packer. A lot of these guys, obviously, if you get drafted at one or two or whatever, there's a good chance you're going to play right away. But the way college football has changed, a lot of these guys just aren't ready
Starting point is 01:08:23 to come in and play in the NFL right away. But anymore, these teams, there is no patience. So you're not going to see teams draft a guy and then give them the benefit of the doubt like Jordan Love where he can sit four years and then it's like, oh, this is a different guy than when you drafted him. You just go through the goats real quick
Starting point is 01:08:40 in your head of recent history. Who are they? Tom Brady? Yeah. Aaron Rodgers? goats real quick in your head of recent history who are they tom brady brady yeah aaron rogers sat yeah patrick beholmes sat sat it's like you just go through in your head who's the goat right now who's the goat right now yeah it's like these guys all sat they were not thrown into the fire as quickly as lumps but they they knew like yeah payton yeah exactly through the most picks in history right of the rookie quarterbacks. It takes a lot of time. After the 2021 season,
Starting point is 01:09:10 hey, Mac Jones, he's going to be great for the next 15 years in New England. It varies. Joe Burrow. I saw him loving life down in Jacksonville. Did you see him at that press conference? Oh, yeah. Laughed the whole time. The whole entire press conference,
Starting point is 01:09:24 Mac Jones beaming ear to ear. Yeah. Loving life down there. I mean, yeah, his mom's picking him up from the facility. He's back home. He's with his friends also. Oh, and not only that, me and Matt Mel got a chance to feel Doug Peterson's aura. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:39 You walk into that suite, Doug Peterson is like, damn, this is a cool. Cool. This guy's cool right here. Mac Jones is feeling that. When you leave an organization cordially and amicably, usually vibes are very, very high like they were for Mac. You mentioned Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow, right
Starting point is 01:09:55 away, they went 4-12. He had to blow his knee out and get murdered behind a bad offensive line for an entire year because he was the number one overall pick and going to such a terrible situation. And even Trevor Lawrence, no one after his rookie year was putting that on him because Urban Meyer finger guns was doing his thing.
Starting point is 01:10:12 But so many of these guys, it takes time. And then even when you hit on the guy, Justin Herbert's been great from day one and the Chargers haven't won shit. He sat, by the way, until a golf tee was put into the lung of Tyrod Taylor. And you talk about when you were talking about the quarterbacks up there.
Starting point is 01:10:25 Which is a matter of fact. And the draft order. And it's not even like organization. Because you could go to a good organization. I think people would say the Steelers and Patriots are good organizations. Okay. But the situation was shit. So you could go to a good organization.
Starting point is 01:10:39 But with Kenny and Mac, the situation was shit. Because whether it was the O-line or the offensive coordinators or the weapons or whatever. Like it has to be the correct situation, not even the great organization. The situation has to be good. Kenny's talking right now in Philadelphia at his press conference, I believe. He spoke a little bit about how it ended.
Starting point is 01:10:57 I'm only reading the tweets. We have a video that's like 27 seconds long. I assume that'll give it a little bit more context. Context big right now on the internet. That's cool. I'm happy the bloodbath situation's taking place so that maybe we can continue, you know, to be like, what's the context of what the person's saying?
Starting point is 01:11:14 Because as people that have been, you know, thrown right into the fire without any context, I'm happy that there's a little bit more of a, oh, wait a minute. Should we maybe hear how that was said or what that was said about? It's a good thing. there's a little bit more of a uh wait a minute should we maybe hear how that was said or what that was said about it's a good thing this is a good thing shout to x doing that yeah yeah keep that going yeah let's keep that rolling you know that was why i needed i was like as i was watching it all unfold on my algae i'm like somebody thank you for really addressing
Starting point is 01:11:41 this because we get i think everybody does and it's not to blame the people that read the things that are out of context for feeling the way you feel because what you were being told is certainly something that should make you feel that way but what a lot of us are saying is that person's trying to make you feel that way by saying that they're trying to make us look like assholes that is not the context of the entire clip so I'm happy that we're potentially entering a time where we are going to try to gather context around things. That's good for society. That's exactly what we're trying to do right now.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Kenny Pickett addressed being a Philadelphia Eagle, leaving the Pittsburgh Steelers after being a first-rounder just two years ago. I just thought it was time. It just felt like it was time for things that transpired. I wanted to get a chance to go somewhere else and continue to grow my career. The fact that it's in Philly, the place that I grew up, I found love for the game here with a great coaching staff, great players. I'm looking forward to meeting all these guys in a couple weeks when everyone gets back into town.
Starting point is 01:12:38 I think it's an awesome opportunity here to join this team. He held it right. It was time. He held it right. It was time. He held it right. It was time. Happy to Jersey boys back in Philly. Baby Kenny. We wish nothing but the best for Kenny. I've enjoyed Kenny Pick. I got a chance to chat with him a couple times. We're not in Pittsburgh, so we don't get to feel it. I'm not necessarily a Steelers
Starting point is 01:12:56 fan anymore because I could have been throughout my entire life, but the Colts paid me not to be. So I'm a Colts fan because Jim Mercer invested in me and took a shot on me. Super fair. Which I appreciate. Steelers could have. They didn't.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Should hold that against them a little bit more. No, no. Coach T said he would. Yeah, Coach T said he'd bring me back whenever I'm cheap and old, which I don't know if that's a shot or not. It's not. Strategy, if anything. Yeah, I appreciate where his head's at. We love the Steelers.
Starting point is 01:13:24 Got nothing but love for them. But, boy, a lot of Pittsburgh Steelers fans also feeling the same way Kenny's feeling about it. It's time. Strategy, if anything. Yeah, I appreciate where his head's at. We love the Steelers. Got nothing but love for them. But, boy, a lot of Pittsburgh Steelers fans also feeling the same way Kenny's feeling about it. It's time to move on. Let's do that with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. Let's move on away from the NFL, and let's go to what everybody's chit-chatting about on this particular day around water coolers at the office, in the cafeteria, in the cubicle.
Starting point is 01:13:42 What are you doing with the brackets? Who's going to win a billion dollars this year? Who's going to have... Are you? Dibs. Yep. Dibs. Me. Okay. I'm happy to hear that. Well, I have a better opportunity to do that after we chit-chat with the next person and the person after that. Ladies and gentlemen, a person who is
Starting point is 01:13:57 the host of the College Game Day Women's Show. A lady who has been at ESPN since 2016. Friend of the program. Ladies gentlemen sports center host l duncan l let's go i just have to say pat there's some similar moments in your life right when you get your first job when you meet the person you're going to marry when you have your children and for me getting to finally pop my mAfee cherry. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Okay. All right. Okay. Listen, the way you said that is certainly something that somebody's going to say something about. But we appreciate you coming on here, and we love everything about it. You are going to inform us on stuff that we don't know about, but we want to. Okay? This is a big time for college basketball, the women's and the men's.
Starting point is 01:14:41 The women. We're going on Friday to the University of Iowa to celebrate, you know, March Madness kicking off over there. We can't wait to do that. We know Iowa's good. We know South Carolina's undefeated. We know LSU is going to be good. Last year was Virginia Tech.
Starting point is 01:14:55 I think there was a Miami story. Is it all the same teams? What do we need to know going into this entire thing, Elle? All we need to know, Pat McAfee, is that yes, this is the absolute worst nightmare for some of the offices because we look at censors with wildness abandoned. I will also say when it comes to the women's side,
Starting point is 01:15:14 it's not like the men. Don't get cute. Don't pick Cinderella teams. We've never, ever, ever had lower than a three seed ever win the national championship. In fact, 10 out of the 11 national champions on the women's side have been one seed lsu the exception last year they were a three seed so miami is out after their improbable run with the cavender twins as you also know the
Starting point is 01:15:35 instagram influencers um they're out they are not even in the tournament after an elite eight run just last year i was still in there. Iowa has the toughest pad. I got to tell you, they showed Iowa no love, you guys, because Iowa is technically the second number one seed behind South Carolina, who has the easiest path when you look at their bracket. Iowa would potentially have to face Colorado, who are some absolute dogs, and at one point in the season were ranked third. Then they would potentially have to face a Kansas State team,
Starting point is 01:16:05 who, by the way, they've already faced twice, and they split. And then they would, for an Elite Eight matchup, either have to play LSU, the team they had to play in the Natty last year, or UCLA, who, as of like 10 days ago, was very much in the running for a one seed. So I've got to tell you, the tournament committee did not make it. What's that all about, Errol? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:24 Oh, they're racist that's why is it racist because she's white though is that what it is yeah i think that yeah clearly our white sisters have always had to face especially in this sport so i feel for her and she doesn't get enough attention or love i gotta say though this course cold water all over the notion that we sort of orchestrate who gets to move on to the Final Four because they are not making this path easy for Kaitlyn Clark at all, despite knowing that she is a huge moneymaker. So we assumed, just as the thought that you just had there, we are the duplicities that think that. All right, we're going to have Iowa in one.
Starting point is 01:16:59 We're going to have SC in one. We're going to have LSU in another one. And then I don't know who the fourth team would have been this year. Who would that fourth team have been? I guess you just said it. It was Texas that ended up getting the one seed. It was also between Stanford as well. Okay, so Texas, Stanford, and then the final four is like, this is what you
Starting point is 01:17:16 came for. This is what we're here for. Instead, it's not that Angel or Kaitlyn are going to knock each other out in the Elite Eight, and then we're going to have to keep it moving. Now, Ty, who's an Iowa Hawkeye diehard, has a question. Yeah, El, why do you think – that is a two-part question. Why do you think they did end up kind of screwing Iowa over? I mean, it's very similar to the men's draw where UConn is by and far
Starting point is 01:17:39 the best team in the tournament, and they have maybe the most difficult path to the Final Four. But why do you – Is LSU not as good this year well is that why they I mean they just made it to the SEC championship and you said it like they're not technically like you know hand-picking matchups but like doesn't that kind of just take the entire process of of making the selections and like throwing it into the wind when if they are supposed to be the number two overall seed and they arguably have the most difficult path? Why do you think that ended up happening?
Starting point is 01:18:11 There are some metrics that are in play when it comes to picking for the women's show as well. They also have to follow something called an S-curve, which is a specific metric in terms of how many conference teams can be in the same bracket, how far they'll have to travel. There's a lot of stuff that goes into it, like a few additional wrinkles from the men. I got to be honest with you, though. We sat there yesterday, guys, scratching our head going,
Starting point is 01:18:32 it would have been really easy to take some of these like two and three seeds from these other brackets and put it in Iowa's bracket so that it would have been a little bit of an easier path. I mean, it's all about matchups, right? And the problem is, is that it's not LSU at McAfee. I heard you say, Pat, is LSU worse this year? They're the same seating as they were last year. They're a three seat. The difference this year is that they're a lot bigger, right? Like they don't have Alexis Morris, who was a guard for them, their point guard and a great facilitator. They're still a little weak there, but they're a lot bigger. They added Haley Van Liff. They added Amisa Morroworrow they can really match up in the post and that is not at all Iowa's strong suit um certainly that didn't bother them as much last
Starting point is 01:19:11 year when they faced South Carolina but I just think it's a matchup nice UCLA same thing they're really big players like they've got big post players and that does not lend itself to um Iowa's strong suit so I don't know why I don't sit on the committee. There's 12 people. They said that this was hotly debated. I even asked the question, guys, because we have a chance to kind of huddle with them. And I asked them, I go, so not at any point did you guys plot out the bracket and go, ooh, I don't know about having Iowa and LSU
Starting point is 01:19:36 in an Elite Eight matchup. Maybe we should save that for Cleveland. And she says they don't look at those things. They seed everybody, and then how they end up is how they end up when they put it in the machine. Well, shout out to them for being super honorable. Way to go. We appreciate it. Didn't even think about it. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:19:52 That's dumb. Had to have come up with it. Hell, that's good journalism. That was a good question. But listen, Kaitlyn Clark in Iowa and Angel Reese in LSU, hey, they wouldn't want any other way. You've got to go through the best to be named the best. Matchup, certainly an interesting thing with that Iowa team.
Starting point is 01:20:09 Seems to be smaller this year than last year. Yeah, for sure. Smaller this year than they were last year, right, Elle? Correct. They don't have Monica Zanano. They don't have McKenna Warnock. So they definitely don't have some of the size that they had last year. She doesn't have that sort of Robin to her Batman like she had with Zanano last year.
Starting point is 01:20:22 It's really going to have to be about all the guards stepping up. Can Gabby Marshall step up? Can Hannah Stolke step up? She is a little undersized for a post player. But we saw that in their game against Ohio State to end the regular season. And we saw that again in their Big Ten run to a Big Ten title in the tournament. If their guards can shoot the lights out, then they can absolutely be a Final Four team no matter who they're playing.
Starting point is 01:20:42 How many home games in the women's tournament? Yeah, so they'll host the first two rounds there in Iowa, and then they'll move on to Albany, which I was told by the Internet yesterday. I say weird. I didn't know, you guys, that it's Albany. I call it Albany, and I don't know if that's egregious. Yeah, Albany's wrong. Is that super egregious?
Starting point is 01:21:02 Yeah, you're Atlanta too, too right you're atlanta too yeah there's an albany georgia and so i just kept calling it albany and everyone was like you dumb an idiot it's albany so how do you say like when you go to a movie theater oh you don't do theater i thought that was no theater is Theater. That's interesting. It's a theater. We agree. We agree completely. But there is people from down in that Georgia region who have dropped theater on us and we've stopped completely and been like,
Starting point is 01:21:36 never heard that before. That's very sophisticated. Those are the same people that take the number 10 and make it two syllables. Talking about Marty. i said tn marty smith is marty and mcgee will certainly be able to draw some things out if they had to let's learn a couple uh superstars shall we go ahead tone yeah we've we've talked about angel racing and caitlin clark um who are some other like or girls that we have to watch in this
Starting point is 01:22:01 tournament like that are just showstoppers we need to see well i mean i can literally go right down the list on the scoring because the top scorer of course in d1 is caitlin clark right behind her and already breaking some of her freshman records is juju walkins from usc she is so fun to watch she can light it up like legit she's breaking records that like cheryl miller and lisa leslie held and that's really a thing you know an incredible freshman she's got usc back in a position they haven't been in in a long time and a lot quicker than they thought i would watch for her they've got a pretty interesting run we could potentially get a usc uconn so it would be juju walk-ins who's going to be freshman of the year versus uh page be's. Like, that would be nasty. I also think, and we're going to talk to her on SportsCenter tonight,
Starting point is 01:22:49 Hannah Hidalgo at Notre Dame. You know why? I know this show likes dogs. And, like, Hannah Hidalgo is a dog in the best kind of way. She talks shit. She's fast. She will pick your pocket. Her pace is frenetic and crazy.
Starting point is 01:23:03 She is third in scoring. She's for Notre Dame. Notre Dame. I like Notreame hannah hidalgo is so fun to watch notre dame could they've got a nice favorable matchup um as well a favorable racket as well i would definitely watch for hannah hidalgo because she's just um phenomenal and then i'll give you one more freshman because i think like all the freshmen are doing their thing at texas she's the first freshman to ever get Big 12 Player of the Year. She shared that honor. But her name is Madison Bookerman, and she's got Texas as a one seed simply because of her will.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Like, she is fantastic. I think you'll enjoy watching her too. Okay, who's the 6'8 girl, Essie? Camila Cardoso. She's banking home winners. Next night she's fighting people. And I think she's a part of the Omaha Productions. They did like a year long behind the scenes.
Starting point is 01:23:51 I don't know. Hold on. I just got sent the name of this. It looks awesome. Yeah, so good. The quarterback. Omaha is everywhere. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Peyton's everywhere. He gets it. He gets access too. Yeah. I guess this accent. This one is called. Yeah yeah don't know the name so it's gonna be tough full court press full court press is the name of it hell yeah i believe it's going to be on espn plus yeah i get they've they're in the locker room before games that's the iowa coach when caitlin breaks all the records i think they're
Starting point is 01:24:23 there before during and afterwards yes with the l records, I think they're there before, during, and afterwards. Yes. With the LSU team, I think they're there. With the South Carolina team, slapping in the face. Kaitlin Clark doing that, slapping herself in the face. That's going to be. So I'm excited to watch this. Congrats, Omaha.
Starting point is 01:24:35 And thank you to the ladies for allowing them to film that. Like, genuinely. Thank you for the X. This comes out in May, I'm being told. Cannot wait to watch it. The women's college basketball, since last year, March Madness, has piqued our interest. Last year, March Madness was storylines, shit talk like you talked about
Starting point is 01:24:54 with Hidalgo, but also pure skill, like just nasty, let alone Kaitlyn Clark getting even better. I'm excited. Good for Omaha, and thank you for Full Court Press. Presented by State Farm. You know that asshole Jake is going to be in there. even better i'm excited good for omaha and thank you for full court press presented by state farm you know that asshole jake is gonna be in there jake is gonna find a way to get dunked on by somebody at the game in iowa oh yeah when he was dapping up travis scott yep yeah i met him in iowa and here's the thing never meet people and then ask them their real name because i found out
Starting point is 01:25:22 who his real name was and then in the broadcast i was supposed to like shout him out and i was like and there we see maya moore sitting next to fake name real name jake from state oh yeah yeah right like i wanted to call him his real name which do you want to take any guesses on what his real name is no kevin hidalgo? It's Jerry, right? Stephen? Ryan? Brian? You guessed it first. How did you know it? You knew his name. I was going to say you knew. His name's Kevin. Somebody right here. That was Zito going. His name's Kevin. I hated finding out.
Starting point is 01:25:58 That's what he said. Everybody hates finding out. He needs to introduce himself as Jake. Let me tell you why that he needs to do that. Like at the WWE, so I commentate for the WWE, and there are some people who don't go by their actual names. What? I don't call them by them.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Wait, since when? Some. Not a lot. It's very new. It's very new. This is not a normal thing. You're just like, hi, Mr. Undertaker. I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:26:22 Yeah. I call him Take. I go up to him and call him Take. There's other people that call him by... That's a perfect situation. There's other people that call him by his name, and it's like, never me. I will call him Take every single time. I don't even want to know the other
Starting point is 01:26:37 name, because my first reaction whenever they do something, oh, look at Mark! You know, power driver! You don't want to do that. Anyways, speaking of a team that we don't know much about but one man does, and he kind of just, like, dumped all in his Wheaties at the beginning of this entire thing. Con's got a question for you. Yeah, Al, thanks for coming on and just shitting on my dreams right away
Starting point is 01:26:58 because I was going to ask about the ladies of Fairfield over in Connecticut who went a casual 31-1 this year and got a 13 seed to play Indiana on Saturday. And you come on right away and say, hey, guess what? If you're a fan of anybody who isn't a top team, just go the hell home because your team sucks and they're not going to win. Is there any chance that maybe – This Fairfield team is different. That maybe you overstepped.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Maybe these stags are different. You missed something over in Fairfield that maybe it's just hitting you now. Wait, they do have a chance to go to the Final Four. Or is this really a situation that I should temper my expectations? Because I already made a bracket, and the Fairfield woman edged out Iowa in the national championship to take home their first title. Well, I think that, first of all, we've got to identify, because the key to any great cinderella
Starting point is 01:27:46 team is they have to have like a mascot like do they have a sister gene or anything like that they got uh that would galvanize they got the fairfield stag mascot if you yeah i'll carry the stag horns yeah okay okay yeah no. All of those things considered, no. I don't think that it's going to happen. I'm so sorry for you. How far did you have them going? I have them beating Iowa in the national championship. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:28:15 31-1. This team doesn't lose. Yeah, player of the year. You're an unserious person. Yeah, you say that. Unserious people. What the hell? Don't make a mockery out of our show.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Totally unserious pick to put them in the, I'd say winning a first round game for a 13 seed is a really, really big deal. But to put them in the natty, I don't know. We saw what happened with Gonzaga. They had the second longest streak going. I think they won like 24 games in a row. Only get beat by Portland in the WCC championship.
Starting point is 01:28:42 So, no, I don't know. Anything can happen. Has any team, Elle, you might not know this no i don't know anything could happen has any team l you might not know this i don't know this south carolina is currently undefeated and when you watch them yeah i don't know their point guards name nasty dog they have the raven johnson there it is raven johnson yeah she's awesome to watch then you talk about like dawn staley's like a dog absolute beast and it feels like whenever you're talking about rally, they weren't in the national championship last year.
Starting point is 01:29:10 So they're able to use that literally all year as motivation. Everything. Has there ever been a team just clean sweep completely undefeated from the beginning of that? Yeah. I assume you got several times. Yeah. Yukon several times. Does Yukon suck now?
Starting point is 01:29:23 Does Gino no longer coach up there? No, he got it still. Gino still coaches there. It's not that UConn sucks. I have to be totally honest with you. Have you ever felt like someone's put a hex on you or that someone down in certain areas in the South has a little doll that they're poking?
Starting point is 01:29:42 It kind of feels like that's what's happening with UConn. I'ven i gotta be honest they have seen unparalleled injuries the last three years like to the point where i asked you know at the beginning of this year before he had more catastrophic injuries to his team have you ever seen anything like what you've experienced the last three years and he's like i'm just starting to wonder like what's happening like who did i piss off what bad juju so he's acknowledging the only reason it's just it's like it's uncanny how many significant injuries that this team has faced not just with like depth players i'm talking about with their stars like whatever they do this year they're doing it without az fun who is supposed to be the robin to page uh becker so yeah az fun is out like
Starting point is 01:30:22 they've had a really yeah they've had first team uh all name for. They've had a really... Yeah, they've had first-team All-Name for sure. They've had a really bad run of injuries, and I think that's obviously why they don't get talked about as much. And there's just more parity. It used to be every single year you could bank on them being in the Final Four, and all the other teams got better, too. All right, last question here from Ty. Yeah, Elle, I know you guys asked this last night.
Starting point is 01:30:41 She's ESPN Bet, too, remember? Oh, yeah. Great commercial, Elle. Yeah, Elle, you crushed it. Good acting with the drink and everything. You crushed it. Best one by far. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:30:48 Thank you. My husband said I was nosy and that I was being a weirdo by stalking that lady and her conversations. Well, the character. That wasn't you. That was character. Right. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Exactly. But first of all, who was the last team that beat South Carolina? Who was it? I don't remember. Who was it? Oh, wait. No, it was the last team that beat South Carolina? Who was it? I don't remember. Who was it? Oh, wait, no, it was Iowa last year in the tournament. That's neither here nor there. Just curious, is it really like South Carolina or the field?
Starting point is 01:31:16 And is the predominant thought that South Carolina is just too good and that it doesn't matter how well anyone else is playing, they're going to just kind of run through the tournament and win it all. A good basketball mind on this side would tell you that the only people that are going to beat South Carolina is South Carolina. Now, I get it, especially as an Iowa person. I get it, right? Like, you guys literally beat them last year.
Starting point is 01:31:38 They were a favorite last year as well. But last year, they just didn't have that outside shooting, and they've got that. They brought in Degina Powau-Pau from Oregon. She's a transfer. She can light it up. Raven Johnson is lighting it up. They've got great two-way players.
Starting point is 01:31:51 They can shoot now and play defense. They've got an inside and outside game. Honestly, South Carolina is going to have to beat themselves in order to get beat. They are really just that good. So I would say that overwhelmingly, most of the brackets are going South Carolina's way. All right. Well well you guys had a
Starting point is 01:32:05 phenomenal season. It was fun to watch those college game days on the weekend. Way to carry the baton through all of college basketball. Thanks for crushing it, Elle. We appreciate you. Hey fellas, hope it's not the last time. See you soon. No, hey, we need it.
Starting point is 01:32:22 You just made us a lot better. Ladies and gentlemen, Elle Duncan. Thank it. You just made us a lot better. Ladies and gentlemen, El Dunkey. Thank you. We're big fans of El. Oh, yeah. Get a chance to meet El. What's that? Aside from that asinine statement regarding the Fairfield women's basketball team.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Oh, I thought you were going to talk about something. She was put in an interesting spot a few years back. Oh, yeah, of course. That really, you know. That's not on her, though. Exactly. She's not the one to say, excuse me. No.
Starting point is 01:32:44 I need to. She's always been awesome to us. Always been very awesome. And gets not on her, though. Exactly. She's not the one to say, excuse me, I need to. She's always been awesome to us. Always been very awesome and gets it with us. Yeah, very much so. Literally since the beginning. I had a chance to host Get Up alongside of her every single Monday when she was filling in. I think Laura Rutledge was out on – she was pregnant, I believe,
Starting point is 01:32:59 and then she got moved to NFL Live after that. But Elle Duncan was filling in. So it was me, Rex Ryan, Orlovsky, Greeny, and Elle. And it was like getting – she was cool. She was cool to us every single week. And I enjoyed the hell out of her. She did do some acting in an ESPN bet commercial. Oh, you made it.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Hey, we did drink, guys. Hey, how we doing? Hey, you. ESPN bet now available. March Madness is going to be a big time to test themselves. Yeah. ESPN bet. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:23 We don't have any of the people at ESPN bet. But we do know that March Madness is a time where your systems really get checked. Oh, yeah. A lot of action. Take the dogs. Especially while you're like, well, you bet $100 on every single dog. I have all 14 games right now locked in on the Thursday underdogs. Yes, $100 money line, all of them doing the challenge.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, and we appreciate you being the guinea pig of our group to do that. Well, let's just make some money, hopefully. Well, we'll get to see, because if you lose a bunch of money, then the whole tale about the, oh, March Madness, Underdog City, is wrong because you lost thousands of dollars. Bingo. But if you win going into the next March Madness,
Starting point is 01:33:56 we'll have the mindset of, this guy got rich off the underdogs. Never forget it. Joining us now is a man who might give us more answers as opposed to just betting on one side of the slate. Host of College Game Day, both football and basketball for the men's, ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, Reesey David. Yeah, Reese! Reesey, baby!
Starting point is 01:34:13 How you doing? How you guys doing? Well, I don't know if it's us or you that has it be muted at the beginning of every single statement. We hope that doesn't happen again, but it is great to see you. Thank you. You had a big weekend, right? You were down at the ACC championship?
Starting point is 01:34:27 I was there at the ACC tournament and then back there for bracketology yesterday. Well, we appreciate your work. This guy never stops. Since football season. Football right into college basketball. Now we're at March Madness.
Starting point is 01:34:42 Reese, obviously, I thought Herbie does that. No, Herbie's in Fiji right now, we think. Again? Is he really? There's a chance. Third time in a month. Who knows? He's on an island somewhere. Hey, he's earned it. Way to go, Herbie. You should see his
Starting point is 01:34:57 tan right now with his blue eyes. How white his teeth are. Probably modeling this summer. Oh, just got done on my sixth island. This one, not as warm as the this summer. Oh, just got done on my sixth island. This one, not as warm as the last three. Okay. Nice. Hey, you've earned it, Herbie.
Starting point is 01:35:10 You've earned it. We miss you, buddy. Can't wait for the fall. But, Reeves, I'll ask about one particular team, then the boys have some actual college basketball questions, and you're the man. We appreciate you joining us. My pleasure. They hate.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Indiana State what is NET ranking we learned about it yesterday on the internet I'm pissed about it, they're the highest ranked NET ranked team in the history of the tournament to not make it into the tournament, they're number 29 I guess the next lowest was 33
Starting point is 01:35:39 so let alone being in top 30 but 33 and however many teams, should I look into this as much as I am because they're in Indiana and I want to be pissed because they have a character that I like that plays on their team? Or how should I view the snubs from this particular year of March Madness, Reese? I thought there were a few, and Indiana State was one of them.
Starting point is 01:36:00 I knew they were screwing up. I knew they were screwing Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. I'm sick of it, Reese. Okay, good. were screwing Kareem Abdul-Jabbar I'm sick of it Reese okay good do you like do you like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar I had Josh Schertz on the show yesterday and he also dropped Larry Nerd for Robbie Avila you like that one Larry Nerd's not too bad yeah exactly Larry Nerd and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar yep are they good at basketball both those the namesakes? Yes. Yeah, they are. Not in a tournament.
Starting point is 01:36:28 I don't like that at all, Reese. I haven't watched a single game of theirs. I've seen the highlights, though. The Sycamores deserve to be in, but is there more this year? Was the bubble wild this year as opposed to years past? Yes. Everything changed a little bit because there were a number of bid stealers. It's one of the reasons, without going too far down in the weeds, that those first four games, you see teams playing for 10 seeds.
Starting point is 01:36:51 Typically, they're playing for 11 or 12. It's because a lot of the teams that won automatic bids were pretty far down the list, and so they were seeded lower, and it put pressure on teams like Indiana State. Now, Indiana State State even though they were a great story they wouldn't have been the first team that I said I thought Pittsburgh should have been in I thought St. John's should have been in but I think the thing is at the end of the line it's hard to get really really mad about at least for me anyway hard to get really mad about a team
Starting point is 01:37:21 not making it at the end of the line because you're not talking 4-5 like Florida State in football this year. You're talking 68, 69, or 70 and that type of thing. Yeah, but the playoff is already at 12 games. It's going to 14 games. Wait until you hear how pissed people are going to be at 15. Oh, buddy. It never stops. Hey, I've heard plenty from the people that were pissed at five this year,
Starting point is 01:37:46 so I can imagine that 15 will be about the same. None of us heard as much as Kirk Herbstreit. No, we didn't. Which might be why he is trying to find every beach that he possibly could at the time being. Let's talk about maybe some unknowns. Tone's got a question for you, Reese. Yeah, Reese, let's talk about the Cinderella's because it's that Cinderella time.
Starting point is 01:38:07 And just so you know, when they go on a run, it's pronounced Duquesne, Dukes, okay? I know it's not Duquesne. Who said that? What? Somebody said Duquesne? No, but I know Reese is a professional, but I just didn't know if he knew it was the Duquesne Dukes. Sounds like somebody said Duquesne. Well, a lot of people in the history of Duquesne have said Duquesne.
Starting point is 01:38:25 Well, that's because nobody knows the school exists. It's right above a jail. Yeah. That Well, a lot of people in the history of Duquesne have said Duquesne. Well, that's because nobody knows the school exists. It's right above a jail. That's what a lot of people say. It's a great day to be here. But let's talk. I don't know. Let's say like. Add that to your coverage, actually, for game day.
Starting point is 01:38:34 Duquesne literally sits on the roof of a jail in downtown Pittsburgh. I wish I'd talked to you guys about this before, because the best thing I had yesterday was that the water boy was filmed at Stetson, which made the tournament, but Duquesne being on top of a jail was better than my Norm Nixon from Duquesne nugget that I had yesterday. So I,
Starting point is 01:38:56 you guys, you beat me on that one. Well, Duquesne Dukes though, love Duquesne. This guy's actually said that Duquesne was supposed to be an Ivy league school. There just wasn't enough patches of grass
Starting point is 01:39:06 around campus that the Ivy Leagues won't allow them in there because Duquesne is downtown Pittsburgh. I understand the University of Pittsburgh is in Oakland, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, which is a region. They are literally right on top of a jail in there. Beautiful campus, Duquesne.
Starting point is 01:39:22 Great people have gone there. Their basketball team, though, no shot this year. Is that right, Tony? No, no, that's not true. They're slight dogs against BYU. I think they're going to pull it off, especially because it's a win-win for the Gippers situation with Coach just announcing his retirement today.
Starting point is 01:39:37 But let's throw Duquesne out. But let's go 10 or lower, 9 or lower. Who's the Cinderella's you're looking at this year? I've got a few. I really like McNeese State. I think they've got a chance to get to the Sweet 16. They opened against Gonzaga. Were they on the street yesterday when they got introduced?
Starting point is 01:39:56 Did you see that? They were on a turning lane, I think. Were they really? They were outside, I think, sitting in the middle of a road because there was a turning lane that the one guy, who I assume was the point guard or something like that, was standing on. Did they do this outside? Did McNeese State have the big crowd?
Starting point is 01:40:12 I forget. There was a couple really good setups yesterday, Reese. Yeah, I can't remember. We were on at the same time. We did not have a camera at McNeese State for our bracketology, so I didn't see how they reacted exactly so I just know you know their their coach was at LSU got caught up in that whole FBI thing he's given me fodder for a couple years because he got caught on tape saying he was going to make a quote strong
Starting point is 01:40:37 ass offer for a player so I you know we reference we reference that in a semi-veiled fashion from time to time but he's a he's a tremendous coach, and they've won 31 games, and I think they've got a chance. Another one, too, and I might get my alumni card revoked, but Charleston plays Alabama. They're 13th seed. I think Alabama's hit a little bit of a wall, and Charleston shoots a bunch of threes and can be a really dangerous team.
Starting point is 01:41:03 So those are a couple off the top. I've got New Mexico as an 11th seed going to the Elite Eight. Now, do I totally believe in New Mexico? Probably not. But from being around Bob Knight all those years, Bob used to say, dumb loses more than smart wins, my boy. And it's not that I'm saying all the teams that are dumb, the lose that are dumb. I'm just saying that maybe find
Starting point is 01:41:27 teams that are vulnerable more so than finding teams that you think are great. So I sort of am taking a little bit of a flyer with New Mexico because I just wonder if Arizona's going to step on a rake and hit themselves in the face. I don't quite trust
Starting point is 01:41:43 Baylor to play defense. I'm just taking a flyer in that part of the bracket too. Okay, so they got and hit themselves in the face. I don't quite trust Baylor to play defense. I'm just taking a flyer in that part of the bracket too. Okay, so they got Clemson in the first round. Then Baylor would be second round if Baylor was able to beat Colgate and then potentially Arizona. But Long Beach State got the fire coach. Maybe they got a little extra juice over there. We should be pumped about this particular bracket you had this year
Starting point is 01:42:02 at college basketball. Talk to us as if maybe, just maybe. There's a chance. It's not me, a friend. Sure. Somebody else. We didn't pay attention to college basketball season closely. Okay, let's just, not us, obviously.
Starting point is 01:42:15 No. We're on every day on ESPN. Always. We understand the platform we have. We got to know sports inside and out, especially college basketball whenever it comes to March Madness. But let's just say somebody didn't. We should be pumped for this year's March Madness. We got a bunch of good teams this year.
Starting point is 01:42:31 I don't know that we have historically great teams, but we've got a lot of really good ones, and we've got a lot of balance. Now, UConn may seem to be historically great, and it has been a season where there have been upsets regularly. Top 10 teams haven't been able to stay in the top 10 because they keep getting clipped by unranked teams. So I think you're going to have a good bit of turnover in the middle of the bracket this year, and that'll be fine. The one thing is at the very bottom of the bracket might be a little bit softer than some years
Starting point is 01:43:04 just because of what we talked about earlier with surprise teams winning the automatic bids. But I think UConn's elite, I think they've got a brutal draw, too, because Auburn, I think, is a potential Final Four team. I saw Bruce Pearl crying. I saw Bruce Pearl crying. Remember, he got run out of Tennessee, obviously, because of who knows. I do not know. What?
Starting point is 01:43:26 Cheating. What? No. No. No. No. Here's the story in a nutshell and a little bit glossed over. He was recruiting Aaron Kraft.
Starting point is 01:43:38 It wasn't within the rules to have Kraft come to his house at the time of his visit. Come on, a boat. He did, and then there was allegations that they asked him not to shoot straight about it with the investigators. And it got turned into a really big deal. You know, that one of those things. A lot of these suits. Tell them you weren't there.
Starting point is 01:43:56 They're good of all of us. I had no idea. I had a chance to have a couple cocktails with Bruce alongside Pat Summitt, Peyton Manning, the governor of Tennessee. I was very confused on why I was in the room, but he was. He was phenomenal. Pat was, rest in peace, as well. Obviously, Peyton and the governor, incredible people. Governor, I don't know if he was about my shit or not, but we had a real good time. Bruce was a good dude, but it was shortly thereafter he was out of Tennessee. He got emotional when Auburn won I think just yesterday. Is this his first
Starting point is 01:44:28 time back at the mountaintop? Because I think he was being heralded as the guy that's maybe the next great basketball coach whenever I was introduced to him, right? Well, yes, he is a great basketball coach, but it's not his first time back. He actually took Auburn to the Final Four in 2019
Starting point is 01:44:44 and they had a really, really controversial call go against them that kept them from going to the national championship game. And, you know, so he's won the SEC tournament. This is the second time I believe he's won it at Auburn. But his father passed away a little less than a year ago, so I think that was part of it as well. Strong family guy, his son Stephen's on the staff there. So, you know well. A strong family guy. His son, Steven, is on the staff there. So, you know, he's an emotional guy.
Starting point is 01:45:07 His players play hard for him, and that was a great win for them yesterday for sure. Yeah, I enjoyed the hell out of him. He was hilarious too. He's a funny guy. Yeah, great energy. Had real juice. Had real juice.
Starting point is 01:45:18 I know a lot of people have real juice. This guy's got real juice. I appreciated it. Did you know he was – everybody makes it out to be like it was a season-long thing, but when he was just getting started, he was at Boston College. He was actually the Boston College mascot for a game. He dressed up in that Eagle costume. Whatever you need.
Starting point is 01:45:36 This guy's ready. Congrats to him. Hopefully Auburn goes on a run. Let's stay up in the New England area because you've mentioned him a couple times. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Reese. Is it safe to say that the best bet you could have would be the UConn men and coach Hurley getting it done or how do you see that whole entire thing playing out with them because they are the
Starting point is 01:45:53 heavy favorites not as heavy as you know say South Carolina in the women's bracket but they are the heavy favorites of this tournament this year I agree with that I think they're the best team I'm picking them to win the national championship. And I think they will have to help whoever beats them, even a terrific team like Auburn. Or if they run into Iowa State or somebody else, they've got Illinois in their bracket who's very capable. But UConn has so many different ways to beat you, and not as many teams have that few holes. I mean, I think they're sensational. It's hard to repeat.
Starting point is 01:46:31 It hasn't happened since Florida in 06 and 07, but I think UConn's up for it. What about Big Cats Wisconsin versus PFT's JMU? How do you feel about the part in my take matchup in the first round? How do we feel about it? Maybe I'm biased toward our game day football trip to JMU, but I'm thinking the Dukes in that game. Hey, let's go.
Starting point is 01:46:51 Went over and saw them play that night. We were down there, Pat. Saw them play Radford. They beat Michigan State. They're good. They're really good. I think they won 31 games, if memory serves. And I've got them winning a game.
Starting point is 01:47:05 Ty just showed me a dry erase board or something I don't want to hear, especially in this great state of Indiana, after Indiana State gets screwed and Indiana doesn't make it. Sure. Purdue's not going to choke, right? That's not going to happen? Purdue's going to go. The Big Ten Championship, they're getting out of the way.
Starting point is 01:47:18 They set them up pretty well, but we'll see. I don't know. Are they going to choke, you think, Reese? No, Edie's different. Edie's different. I've said that I would need to see it to believe it because that's a lot of back.
Starting point is 01:47:34 But, I know, but let me tell you this. They set them up now. I mean, it would be virtually, I will be stunned beyond words if they don't at least get to the eight i i think they will walk to the eight so they got montana state obviously go um montana state bob bobcats yeah i'm on a rodeo team either them are grambling then they got who their uh tcu make a
Starting point is 01:47:58 win or utah state who do you think i i i think probably tcu but ut Utah State's a good team as well. Is Jamie Dixon still there? I'm sorry, what was that? Is Jamie Dixon still there? Yes. He's still there. Yes, he's still there, Coach. He's very good. And the bottom part of the bracket, like I said, I like McNeese to upset Gonzaga.
Starting point is 01:48:18 And Kansas is sort of a shell of itself because of injuries. And Samford, we talked about them last week. So I think the bottom half of that little section of the bracket opens up wide for Purdue. I think Purdue walks to the eight, and the question is, can they beat Tennessee? And if they do, then
Starting point is 01:48:35 the gorilla's off the bat. Well, as we wrap up here on ESPN, we'll be back tomorrow. We'll continue on YouTube and ESPN+. Cheers. Missed it, I think, by half a second. No. Reese, you would have done a better job than me there. That's why you're hosting.
Starting point is 01:48:49 I'm just doofus in the throne room. You know what I mean? No. I think we missed it by half a second, Rochelle. I'm going to get cut off. Let me check. There's Big TV over there. Reese is wrapping up his take.
Starting point is 01:49:00 We played the music. He heard it. It's the Oscars. Let me stop. Reese is a professional. It's the Oscars. Let me stop. Reese is a professional. It's going to break. I'm still talking. What?
Starting point is 01:49:13 My bad. I'm sorry, man. Reese, you son of a bitch. That was a quick music. You son of a bitch. Reese, this is not you. You're in the middle of some good stuff there. You're breaking down the entire thing. I was starting to take notes because I'm like,
Starting point is 01:49:27 I've got to fill out my bracket here. You know, because you said Charleston over Alabama. It's like last year I remember Alabama was really good. But the reason why I knew they were very good is because they had a player who had to be phenomenal at basketball for everything that happened to take place for him to continue to play basketball. It's like this guy has got to be very good. Different team. there are four.
Starting point is 01:49:46 See, Clemson, you seemingly did not have a lot of hope for as you were picking New Mexico to potentially beat them. It's like, here we go. Let's make some money off this entire thing. And Duquesne, are you kidding me? Duquesne taking on BYU? That BYU team, it's too late in the season, right? They're too old, they're too mature, their knees are hurting.
Starting point is 01:50:04 Is that real or no? They can shoot season, right? They're too old. They're too mature. Their knees are hurting. Is that real or no? They can shoot it, man. That's BYU. What's Duquesne's strength? Three-point defense. Three-point defense is your strength? Well, it's just one of the high points of this team. I have never heard of teams.
Starting point is 01:50:18 What's your strength? We are three-point defense. Well, no, no. He brought up shooting, and I just looked over the Dukes today, and I think they're top ten in three-point defense. So that no, no. He brought up shooting, and I just looked over the Dukes today, and I think they're top ten in three-point defense. Okay, so that was just something that popped into my head. They also have one of the best free-throw shooters in the nation, so if you get down to a free-throw shooting competition
Starting point is 01:50:31 at the end, good luck. That's big. If one guy gets fouled, or technical fouls happen, we're sending this guy. Bingo. He's a shooter. Listen, yeah, they're talking about how it's a group of death, and they're talking about, you know, the Big 12, Big Ten champ, SEC champ, Big East champ. How about the A-10 champ gay in there as well? Who's that?
Starting point is 01:50:46 That would be Duquesne Dukes. Oh, with LeBron's old coach. Yes. Any of those schools, Tony, next to a prison watching that grit every day? I don't think so. Okay, well. There is windows. Can you guys see the windows?
Starting point is 01:50:57 Yeah, we can see them. So I used to have to drive by said prison three times a week to go to soccer practice on the other side of the city. Tim McAfee, shout out. We've been on the road literally since I'm 11 years old, pretty much. Long drive, 45 minutes through the city, through rush hour. And you are parked waiting to get through one of the tunnels, Fort Pitt, right in front of the prison.
Starting point is 01:51:15 So nice old game is, let's see if we see anybody in there. You know? And you do. Oh, yeah. You do. Oh, yeah. Looking out the window. Full on.
Starting point is 01:51:22 They had a nice gym in there, too, in the claim. They were running hoops games in there. Yeah, used to see some shots. And there would be somebody obviously new to the jail that was shooting up some trash. Sure. And they would get sent out there, and there was some splash happening. The Duquesne Dukes got a chance to watch some real prisoners throw down, and that's going to carry them to a big-time win.
Starting point is 01:51:38 I mean, listen, if Coach got LeBron to where he is today, I think he'd get the Dukes to at least Sweet 16. Did you see that? LeBron said congratulations to the Duquesne Dukes, Reese. I saw that. Jay Billis was with me, and Jay covered his game in high school. Has Jay calmed down yet? Has Jay calmed down?
Starting point is 01:51:58 I heard he wants to arrest every person in every arena where college basketball is. He's good. I think that might have gotten blown up a little bit on him a little bit. Oh, a little out of context. And people are saying a little out of context. Got it. Well, we appreciate you joining us, Reese.
Starting point is 01:52:15 Have a phenomenal March Madness. Where can we see you? Where are you? We'll be on game day Saturdays and Sundays, typically at 11 o'clock Eastern, but there will be one, I think it's on at noon. I'm not sure which day.
Starting point is 01:52:28 Traveling or in studio? In studio until the final four, then we'll go to Phoenix. All right. All right, man. Enjoy home for a few weeks. Yeah. I'll try.
Starting point is 01:52:38 You guys do. Keep crushing it, fellas. Enjoy. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Reece Davis. Yeah, Reece. All right, let's get to a break. We appreciate it. So I got the bracket pretty much figured out. Yeping the ad. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Reece Davis. Let's get to a break. We appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:52:45 I got the bracket pretty much figured out. New Mexico. He has no faith in Clemson. That's who they're playing first. He goes, Bob Knight used to say, Dom loses more than smart wins. He's saying Clemson
Starting point is 01:53:01 not go basketball. SVP was tweeting about New Mexico, too, because there's this guy who's basically college basketball lore who does the statistical rankings. Lenardi? Lenardi is ESPN's bracketology guy. I'm talking about his name's Ken Palmer. He's got New Mexico as the 23rd best team in the country,
Starting point is 01:53:19 and they're at 11th seed. Which is obviously nowhere near what they should be. No. It should be like a five thing. That's what I've been saying this whole time. I'm fucking sick of it. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar with what they're doing with New Mexico.
Starting point is 01:53:33 It's not right. I'm done with it, dude. They had Lenardi on TV this weekend. Joey Brackets. Pitt fans are not happy with that guy. They said Bracketologist since 2001. Bracketologist. Has he got a perfect one? Is that when they created. They said Bracketologist since 2001. Oh, yeah. Bracketologist. Has he got a perfect one?
Starting point is 01:53:47 Is that when they created the name? Bracketologist? Yeah, it had to be. Absolutely. He is the original Bracketologist? Yeah. We tried to get him on the show today. He's booked.
Starting point is 01:53:55 Makes sense. Yeah, till May. I was like, hey, Faso, who's the March Madness person? He goes, Lenardi. And I go, oh, he's on my TV right now. 2001, Bracketologist. I'm like, holy shit, this guy's a doctor. Yeah. Well, you need this guy. Yeah. madness person he goes lenardi and i'll go he's on my tv right now 2001 bracketologist my holy shit this guy's a doctor yeah well you need this guy yeah can we get him on show booked can't okay it's march madness what do you fucking think the bracketologist is doing get on shows
Starting point is 01:54:16 he's filling out brackets i think oh yeah non-stop trying to win people a billion that's what bracketologists do. Bingo. Staying on business. SLB. Let's get to a break. This last hour has sports that need to be seen. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:35 So many. Sports that are happening is in fuego right now. Soccer has a spinning heel kick to the head of somebody wearing a mask from a soccer player. We'll talk about that in the next hour. Spinning one of these. Oh yeah. That was in Turkey. People charging the field. He goes,
Starting point is 01:54:58 we should get out of here. Nah, fuck that. Let him keep running. A guy had a mask on. Spinning heel kick. Soc on spinning heel kick soccer player professional soccer player probably fantasized about doing that oh yeah with cleats yeah come on he was ground and pounding the guy too right on top of him after the spin kick we'll talk about that it's happening in turkey international show people say we're shallow no we did women's basketball first no big deal men's college basketball about to do the soccer yep might make an announcement about the soccer as well really whoa
Starting point is 01:55:34 nice oh bonus ball bonus ball that's technically gotta be it oh no oh that one felt great. I felt so good. I boozed a little, so muscles on there. Oh, that's what it is. Got to aim for the back. Nice. Yeah, just got to adjust a little bit.
Starting point is 01:55:54 Right. Just got to adjust a little bit. Well done. Absolutely well done. Thank you. I appreciate that. You know, that's the difference. It's all those little inches that are all around us.
Starting point is 01:56:03 Yes, it is. That really determine how our day is going to go. Whenever we wake up and that inch right in front of our face, if we decide, you know, this breath of air is going to be a good one. And we're going to view today as if it's our birthday even though it's not our birthday. Because what's the difference between your birthday and every other day? Nothing, other than your attitude if it's a special day. Bingo.
Starting point is 01:56:19 Today is a special day. You know why? Why's that? Because all those little inches all around us can make it special. Hell yeah. Why's that? Because all those little inches all around us can make it special. Oh, yeah. Sports!
Starting point is 01:56:30 Are wonderful. Sports are amazing. And sports are happening. And I get a chance to chat about it alongside a great group of people every single day. The Talks at Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. See a little hoodie over the shirt. What are we, a little scared? No, not scared.
Starting point is 01:56:43 This is actually... Are we scared? We think our shirt stinks, so we're not going to wear it, and we're not going to showcase it? We're going to wear a hoodie over top of it? Absolutely not. Oh, St. Pat's Day, a little bit long. Maybe I'm drinking too much, having too good of a time. I was supposed to go to bed at 8.
Starting point is 01:56:53 I ended up staying out until about 11.30 midnight because my name's Boston Connor Campbell on a Saturday night, so I can't wear my shirt. I got to cover it up. I think it looks like crop. I wish I could have made it to 11.30. I'm sorry. I made it to about 9.30. No, this shirt is one of my favorites. It's a purple wolf shirt. I wish I could have made it to 1130, Hunt. Sorry. I made it to about 930. No, this shirt is one of my favorites.
Starting point is 01:57:06 It's a purple wolf shirt. I mean, who doesn't love purple? Who doesn't love wolves? I will say, as someone who likes it cold, it is freezing in here. This is the first time I've worn a jacket. Where? This is the first time I've worn a jacket. In here?
Starting point is 01:57:17 Since the old office. I mean, you can go back and look through the tapes. I do see hoodie, hoodie, hoodie. One half of the hammer. Dot, dot. Cowboys, tongue digs. You're wearing a hoodie as well. Yeah, but you know me. I keep a hoodie out there in the think tank. What are you guys saying? You guys saying it's
Starting point is 01:57:29 uncomfortably cold here? No, no, no. Today was the first time. Yeah, nose was cold. Normally, I can deal with hands. Like, that's fine. Hands are going to get cold. You know, there are reasons for that. I'm not kidding. I haven't worn a hoodie on this show since 2021. And today was the first day where I looked around and I said, you know what? I could do kidding. I haven't worn a hoodie on this show since 2021. And today was the first day where I looked around and said, you know what?
Starting point is 01:57:46 I could do it. I could tough it out. My life is drastically better if I just throw this hoodie on. Just take the shellings. Take the slacking for having a hoodie from you. That's going to come. That's going to come. And here we are at 210.
Starting point is 01:57:58 I knew it was happening at some point. But, no, it had nothing to do with me being scared. We had Justin Fields. We had March Madness. Schefter told the Colts fans, Snead's not coming. So let's take a place. It was snowing this morning after a beautiful couple weeks of 70-degree weather in Indianapolis.
Starting point is 01:58:13 So I think the fluctuation for sure. Yeah, you're getting used to the warm. But no, I am not scared, as you put it. You're soft. I am not soft either. I think the majority would agree, hey, maybe today Pat was a little chilly in here. Although we do all like it cold in here. That is a bottom line.
Starting point is 01:58:29 I run hot. I do run hot. Always have, always will. So I'm trying to find an air conditioner at all times everywhere that I am. And I do, you know, have final vote in this particular place. So I like to keep it a little chilly in here. There was a time when my dad had like a controller of the temperature in this place in his office and he had it at like 72 or something one day and I was like, listen Tim,
Starting point is 01:58:50 you trying to smoke me out of here like I'm at some ayahuasca retreat? What the hell's going on? So we moved that out of his office immediately and now yeah, I am the potential person that accidentally leaves the cold air on all weekend not knowing it was going to get freezing, and walk in here and it's 62 degrees and a thunderdome. Who could have known that the high was 35 today? What is the deal? I don't know. I thought we were warming the place up. This whole week.
Starting point is 01:59:14 There's always one last, you know, Mother Nature and Old Man Winter, they have sex one last time before spring comes. And they rattle it a little. They do. And it came in, and a cold front came in, But that's fine because it's going to clear out. It's going to be a beautiful end of March, beautiful Easter, beautiful spring. I agree.
Starting point is 01:59:28 It's going to be glorious. And that rat fuck, Punxsutawney Phil, told us that the spring was going to come earlier than ever this week. And he might be doing a little baby face turn. And we're proud of Phil. Thank you, Punx. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:59:40 Thank you, Punxsutawney Phil. You asked about what did I mean about getting smoked out of here like I was at an ayahuasca retreat. I'm getting my eyes on the first video that I've ever seen before of the ayahuasca retreat. And remember, ayahuasca was brought into our particular lives whenever Aaron Rodgers said he went and did it down in the jungles of Costa Rica, I do believe,
Starting point is 02:00:00 and how much it changed him and how much better it made him mentally. And then you start doing some research. It's like a lot of ex-military folks trying to battle PTSD are doing this ayahuasca. It's been around for, depending upon who you believe, thousands, if not millions of years, depending on who you talk to. So now we're getting eyes on it because Jordan Poyer went down last year. It was such a massive experience. He was like, he wanted to share this with more people so they knew what is potentially possible in a different country with different laws and different viewpoints
Starting point is 02:00:28 on thing so we're getting document uh the entire trip pretty much yeah and jordan's down there von miller's down there aaron rogers is down there there's some ceremonial stuff that takes place they go into these huts seemingly. They put smoke in there. You come out looking vastly different. Obviously, you've been through it. I couldn't even imagine how hot it is down there. And like, I appreciate the fact that Poyer's sharing this information. And I appreciate the fact that people are doing this, looking to better themselves mentally and change themselves.
Starting point is 02:01:00 But this one's not for me. After I watch the video, I am not. There's Aaron in the middle, obviously, going through it it he is a avid user of ayahuasca and believes in everything that can do for people and it has shown that it can definitely turn lives around more optimism more hope better viewpoint on everything i'm not saying that there isn't you know upside to this if you talk to literally every human that's ever done it the only people that seemingly bury it are people that haven't done it and say he's hippies to stop going into the jungle and do their thing. But I'm appreciative of Jordan Porter putting that video out
Starting point is 02:01:31 because there's no way I'm the right guy to go do this. I don't think so. Me either. As a human who has potentially tripped a few times on some things, I don't think you ever want any negative energy going into it. Me walking through a jungle with native Costa Ricans playing the drums and the smoke that's coming in there, I think even I, who is maybe the biggest,
Starting point is 02:01:49 this is dope, I'll do it guy in the history, I think I'd be a little bit rattled. I don't know if I'm mentally tough enough to do it, but if I get to a point where I would like to go change some things, either about my viewpoints or how I'm feeling or how my brain's operating, I think we know the right people to go do it with. They got it all figured
Starting point is 02:02:06 out here. A lot familiar of Aaron Rodgers. Absolutely, but yeah, you're right. One look at this video, hey, that's not something I'm ever going to be doing, and that's okay. They look like they're having fun. That's okay. I don't think having fun is the objective. No. Normally when I go on vacation, it is. It's not a vacation.
Starting point is 02:02:22 That's a retreat. Yeah, but they're in a different country, and they were at a retreat on a, it looked like they were on a vacation. That's a retreat. Yeah, but they're in a different country, and they were at a retreat on a... It looked like they were on a resort. They're bathing suits on. And there was different plants. This is a spiritual journey, Tony. Thank you, Nick, for saying the proper thing I was looking for. It's not a vacation.
Starting point is 02:02:36 This is getting better. This is working on yourself. Yeah, but their season just ended. They should be relaxing and going on vacation. He's already done that. Jordan Porter's swinging the sticks. He's playing the... Pan, pan, pan. Pan, pan. They work on themselves all year long, lifting weights and going on vacation. He's already done that. Jordan Carter's swinging the sticks. He's playing the hand pan.
Starting point is 02:02:45 They work on themselves all year long, lifting weights and doing sprints. We're talking about in between the years. It's a different type of work. We're talking about emotional work on themselves. I'm not familiar with that. Next time we talk to either any of them that are on that thing, we will certainly bring that video up and say, so what's going on here? You have to know.
Starting point is 02:03:01 What's going on? Are they smoking you out right now? Is it 1,000 degrees in there? That's all I saw was how bad I would be sweating as a human that runs hot. It would not mind my house to be 63 degrees. I would not care if it was 63 degrees everywhere that I went all the time.
Starting point is 02:03:15 It looked like it was 1,000 degrees in there, but I assume they'll all come back and say it made them better. So congrats on a safe journey, boys and ladies. Hats off. Would like to know more. One lady was going through it. Yeah. Yeah, they were.
Starting point is 02:03:29 Yeah, they were. Bringing her juices. Hey, we got two arms for you. The juice did look really good. Yeah, it did. I mean, it's straight from the jungle, baby. And were they eating little edibles there? I don't know what that was.
Starting point is 02:03:38 Was that a little edible? I'm sure it was like protein. Could have been Altoids. Like, hey, this stuff makes your breath smell like shit. Here's an Altoid when you get out of the thing. They don't care about smell over there, Tony. What are you talking about? How do you know? I mean, you could just tell. It didn't
Starting point is 02:03:52 look as though everybody was keeping up with their hygenal, you know. Well, there was some mud. It looked like there was some mud. Good for exfoliating. And also, I learned the messaging is we're just visitors here. So I think it does put life into perspective a little bit, which could potentially change some things obviously uh anytime you experience something life altering you start thinking about all the little things and what really matters and
Starting point is 02:04:13 what doesn't i assume this is a very similar thing i think they're all back safe i think it's nice i think i saw aaron playing in a oh yeah that's right football tournament fresh out of it that he normally plays in jordan poyer the request is in chit-chat with him about the documentary he's making. When are we going to see more of this? How much of the process are we seeing? Because I am intrigued, but also I'm like, I run hot. I don't know if the jungle is where I need to be on to do anything. Can you do that in L.A.?
Starting point is 02:04:36 Do they do that in L.A.? I don't think so. I think there are little stations because I believe we have heard of Sweden. It's cooler there this time of year. Yeah, put me up in Iceland. Average temp in Costa Rica in March is 82 degrees. And then they were putting fire into
Starting point is 02:04:52 the hut. So you're next to a fireplace in the middle of the jungle. Pretty humid. Hey, he's now a member of the Dolphins. Hell yeah. Might have spoke to a dolphin. It's official today. Yeah, could have. You never know.
Starting point is 02:05:06 It's official. Jordan Poyer signed his one-year, $2 million deal. On the left there is Rosen Haas. In the middle there is Jordan Poyer with a brand-new perspective on life, maybe reaffirming some of his beliefs that he has shared over the last year or two. He's officially a Miami Dolphin. Hey, Dolphins back on the up-and-up, Gumps, because I remember there was a time where you were a little bit down on the Dolphins with some of the dumb moves you thought and the rest of the Dolphins fans thought they would potentially make it.
Starting point is 02:05:30 Yeah, you're definitely not going to replace Christian Wilkins, but Chris Greer has done a very good job with the money that was available under the cap. So you're pumped about these moves? Yeah, I'm back in. I'm back in. Okay, well, you're the perfect person for us to talk about this next particular thing. Sports that are happening involves soccer. Obviously Luis Suarez and Messi are dominating for Inter-Miami.
Starting point is 02:05:54 They're wearing pink. They're looking cool. They're having a good time. They're winning games. Right, Gumpch? Yeah, Suarez leads league in goals and assists. Pretty good. Came on in the 62nd minute on Saturday, scored two goals. Okay, so he's this year's Messi. Messi hasn't even really started doing
Starting point is 02:06:09 Messi stuff. Why would he this season so young? He's out with a hamstring injury right now. Yeah, but if it was later in the season and it was for the MLS Cup. If he plays, he scores. That's just how it goes. Did he stretch? He did stretch. They said actually he was trying to do his security guard sprinting routine.
Starting point is 02:06:26 He wasn't ready for it because the field's a little bit bigger on the outside. He's healthy. Okay, so the MLS being run by Inter-Miami, we can say safely? Absolutely. Okay, so we'll bet on them. Let's go to the Turkey League. I like the Turkey League. We never talk about the Turkey Soccer League.
Starting point is 02:06:40 This might be my new favorite soccer league, though. We got players doing spinning heel kicks on protesters yellow jersey hi hi hi he was sizing that up too yeah protester had no idea had a mask on its head i believe boom tries to get a spinning heel kick in there i appreciate the attempt even if it wasn't landed as clean as we would see some ufc guys and girls hit on a saturday night i just I appreciate the attempt, even if it wasn't landed as clean as we would see some UFC guys and girls hit on a Saturday night. I just like that the attempt took place. There was also a spear
Starting point is 02:07:10 that took place a little bit later in this. Boom! Big time punch, jump on top, grinding pond as another blue coat comes flying in. This rarely takes place. We're talking about old Phil Poskey down there at Duke. Whenever they rush the court and he got hit and
Starting point is 02:07:25 and gets carried out of there. And should we stop rushing the court as a whole? And that whole, Jay Billis said, put him in jail. Didn't mean it. I don't think. I think he was just saying something has to take place in this entire thing. Soccer riots are ruthless. We've heard stories about
Starting point is 02:07:42 Mexico and it's taking place in some of their league stuff. We've heard stories in other places. I like the fact that in this Turkey league, the boys on the team, which was named Fenerbahce, which is yellow jerseys. They were down against who? Trebon's poor.
Starting point is 02:07:58 They were down there second, third in the Turkish league. And Trebon's poor was at home. They were in the lead. They lose. Because Trebon's poor was at home. They were in the lead. They lose. Because Trebonche doesn't. The actual spinning kick was the guy who scored the game winning goal in the 87th minute. Oh! Dog.
Starting point is 02:08:13 I'm coming into your house. I'm stealing your joy. And then I'm going to kick you right in the mouth. I love it. What a day for this guy. Yeah, unbelievable. Now, there's obviously going to be a lot of conversation about whether or not players in league should be attacking fans and come onto the field, and should fans come on the field ever? How close should they be allowed to players?
Starting point is 02:08:33 It's been happening in all sports. It happens in football, college football. It happens in college basketball. It happens in soccer. It happens in things, and at some point, we are going to get to where the players are just going to start handling their own business yeah we remember anthony schlegel of the ohio state buckeyes rock bottoming a fan that was coming out and actually having a photo of him mid-form with his khakis killing a guy i believe there's a pittsburgh stealer who headhunted a cleveland james harrison james harrison headbutted a fan that came onto the field. The Los Angeles Rams buckled a guy that ran onto a field a couple years ago, and now we have in soccer a spinning heel kick to a guy coming onto the field wearing a mask.
Starting point is 02:09:14 It's like I am a bit worried that this whole fan-player interaction thing could get much, much worse. Yeah. But when I see that, I go, okay, I like that team. I want to bet on that soccer team. The team that is going into somebody else's yard and kicking them in the mouth while beating them is a team that I think is filled with dogs,
Starting point is 02:09:35 and we should be betting on them immediately. How long is the turkey season to go? How many more games does this guy have to score in? And do they have him on any of the sports books, more specifically ESPN Bet? They are international break right now. He used to play for Belgium. He's not with Belgium anymore.
Starting point is 02:09:50 He used to be on Chelsea as well. He didn't do very well in the English Premier League, but the Turkish League, there's about two months left, usually right around summer. Can we bet on it? Oh, yeah. We can. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:10:03 That team's winning. Batshuayi. Who? Batshuayi. Who's that? That's We can. Oh, yeah. That team's winning. Batshua. Who? Batshua. Who's that? That's the dog. Okay, what's the team? Frenerbache.
Starting point is 02:10:11 Batshua? Where's Turkey? Turkey's over there by Greece? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Bingo. Greece?
Starting point is 02:10:17 Mediterranean. Same area. Turkey? Italy, Greece, Turkey. It's over there? Mm-hmm. Beautiful country. We knew that.
Starting point is 02:10:23 Gorgeous country. Croatia. As a teenager. Croatia Croatia is near I think As a teenager I got a chance to play Against the Turkish national team In Austria I think They all look so cool
Starting point is 02:10:31 Great hair Pretty job Were they doing that stuff? Well one of them Felt me pretty good Yeah One of them felt me pretty good I mean that's gonna happen
Starting point is 02:10:39 They're normally jacked They normally have good tattoos They set the tone a little bit Yeah They got kicked in the mouth though By What's that guy's name? Bat-shu-ah Bat-shu-ah Bat-your-eye Is he up for the balloon They normally have good tattoos. They set the tone a little bit. They got kicked in the mouth, though, by... What's that guy's name?
Starting point is 02:10:46 Batshuayi. Batshuayi. Batshuayi. Is he up for the balloon door because of what he did to that guy's face? When he was young and up and coming, he was supposed to be the next big thing, signed on for Chelsea and kind of died off. We can't be having these brawls between fans and players, though. No.
Starting point is 02:11:00 We got to get to a point where we're not, you know, because sports need to keep the passion. We need to keep the emotion. We need to keep the emotion. We don't want to have to wrangle people's emotion and excitement for sports. We got to start getting along. With that being said, you see a guy setting up a heel kick, it might be coming.
Starting point is 02:11:14 And Filipowski? Yeah. Imagine if he just hit a... Filipowski playing in the tournament? Is he still out from the... No, I remember next week he hit off. Oh, yeah, he did the win. They need to show that video to all of
Starting point is 02:11:29 college basketball and Jay Billis, just to be like, hey, look, we get it. Things can happen when fans rush the court, but look what could happen. Batua just kicked this guy in the face. Other sports that are happening, hockey, still very awesome. Pittsburgh Penguins beat the shit out of the Detroit Red Wings.
Starting point is 02:11:50 Yeah, 6-3, just an absolute clobbering the detroit red wings who were once a hot team and maybe had found greatness again like they had back in the 1400s have put a trash company's logo on their jersey and since then have only won one game out of like 10 most recently the pittsburgh penguins who were on a little bit of a schneid, they're saying. Trading away some of their best players. Oh, no, they're sellers, not buyers at the trade deadline. Well, if they get hot, they can get going. Let's get the company that has a dumpster on their jersey to turn it all around.
Starting point is 02:12:16 Big shout-out to the Detroit Red Wings for doing what they did. Shout-out. Remove the patch immediately. What are we doing? We're being greedy, corporate, fat cats. Can't have it. Hockey gods hate it. And now the Red Wings aren't going to make the playoffs.
Starting point is 02:12:28 Nick, who is the team in hockey that's supposed to be great? Is it still the Florida Panthers? It's still Florida. Vancouver out west has put together quite a season. They've kind of been off the radar because they are so far out there. And, you know, big East Coast bias. Not a lot of people are staying up late to watch those games. But Gumpy knows, too.
Starting point is 02:12:43 The Cougars out in Vancouver, they are putting together an unbelievable season. I saw Jackie Aces was the third star of the Las Vegas Golden Knights game, I believe, yesterday. Came out, gave a stuffed animal to one of the members of the Las Vegas Golden Knights faithful like we have been in the past. They won, yeah. The Golden Knights still undefeated in pre-game 304 now. 304 right now.
Starting point is 02:13:07 Golden Knights in it? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Noah Hannafin's starting to get a little... He was second star? Yeah, getting his bearings underneath him. I mean, just apples after apples every single game. Jackie Aces obviously healthy. So, yeah, let's just say the boys are in prime form once the playoffs roll around.
Starting point is 02:13:23 How come nobody respects Jackie Aces? It's a question I've been asking myself time and time again, really ever since they landed Jackie Aces. It makes no sense. Every time the guy's out there, he scores or he's assisting on goals. Where's he from? I believe he is a Chelmsford, Massachusetts man. Oh, good American guy. Yeah, he's Massachusetts man. Oh. Good American guy.
Starting point is 02:13:45 Yeah, he's a good American boy. Good American hockey player? Exactly. We need to respect and appreciate him. Hey, welcome back to hockey, Jackie. Hell yeah, hockey boy, Jackie. Basketball is happening. More specifically, NBA basketball is happening.
Starting point is 02:13:57 Kyrie Irving last night had a game winner that was absolutely stupid. 2.8 seconds left. Inbound pass. He gets the rock. Everybody knows that Kyrie Irving has handles. Do they know he's got a left-handed skyhook with touch to win it in Dallas over the reigning champion, Denver Nuggets.
Starting point is 02:14:17 Now, a lot of people commented on this around the NBA. A lot of studs, Dame, Trey, all of them paying homage in respect to Kyrie Irving being the only human on earth that would be able to do this seemingly as easily as he made it look. An absolute stallion with the basketball has to be
Starting point is 02:14:35 to be able to do everything that happened back whenever COVID was taking place. That is, I think, the indicator to all of us how basketball feels about Kyrie because there was laws trying to be changed in New York City so that he could play basketball. Kyrie has been great at basketball since the day, I assume, he touched the basketball.
Starting point is 02:14:54 And last night he made his teammates gobsmacked, and he made the rest of the NBA gobs. A little bit of a reminder of who Kyrie Irving is last night. Yeah, watching Maxie Cleveland bounce the ball and Luka Doncic underneath the net. Watch this ball go in. There's a different angle of Luka, and Luka can't believe it. He goes down into the gargoyle, crouching down.
Starting point is 02:15:14 How the hell did he just make that? To your point about being able to do this, being the only guy, I believe growing up he played basketball without a backboard. So he actually was strictly going forward. And his offhand? Yeah, yeah, with his left hand and his right hand, of course. A lot of people say he's the most skilled basketball player in the NBA now. Yeah, yeah, bingo.
Starting point is 02:15:34 Tony, you're nailing it. Trey Young actually posted that what people are missing, you know, in this entire conversation is, yeah, offhand, yeah, it's incredible, yeah, it's on Jokeroker who's the reigning mvp yeah it's to win the game trey young points out he even sets up for like a three to kind of like freeze the defender a little bit a little sauce oh i'm gonna three no i'm actually gonna cut back in and do this so as the nba guys start looking at this they're like all in 2.8 seconds this guy sets up a fake three, looks at the clock, then looks
Starting point is 02:16:06 at the hoop, then offhand skyhook in Joker's face, buries it home. It's like, what a play. Great for basketball. Good for Dallas. Good for Dallas Mavericks. Good for Mark Cuban too. Mark Cuban's been embattled, I would say.
Starting point is 02:16:21 He's signed up for it. He's asked for it. That's on him. But he's certainly been in a lot of billionaire kerfuffles. Yeah, you can say that. I would say as of late. So Kyrie, Luka getting hot at the right time. Let's go. How many Dallas Mavs?
Starting point is 02:16:40 Another sport that's happening, golf. Max Holm almost killed a guy. Oh, boy. Yeah, some doofus who was at the Players' Championship this weekend at TPC Sawgrass said, I'm going to stand right in front of a golfer who is golfing and I'm going to get the best angle of a shot that anybody has ever gotten. And in return, what he got
Starting point is 02:16:55 was a nice little buzz of a golf ball over his head with one of the most pure oohs I've heard in some time. Ooh! What? What? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:08 Now, Max Homa had to come out and obviously say that he didn't hit anyone in the head on 14, although that sound could have sounded like a cartoon character's head getting hit by a golf ball. But it did smoke a tree, just like we like to smoke trees. Really thankful it missed the guy, obviously, he would go on to say, here's the back view of it all.
Starting point is 02:17:27 And I think we could see the person's hand and head right there. Right over top of it. So scary. That's a big nightmare at these golf tournaments, too. I got a chance to play in Tahoe a couple different years. And you'll have people right there. And it's like,
Starting point is 02:17:43 Max Homa, I understand that you should feel comfortable standing directly in front of him. Don't golfers line up by their feet? Those feet are staring right at you. I mean, that is aiming right at me. And you're just like, yeah, I'm going to get the best shot of all time. He's a pro. Don't hit me. Don't do it.
Starting point is 02:17:59 Now, I assume he bladed a little bit and ended up hitting a tree. Not his best shot. Golfers have those. Professional golfers have those every once in a while. But that's biggest fear of going to a golf tournament. By far. Without a question. I'm going to get smoked in the head with a golf ball. Nobody got smoked in the head. Thought someone died.
Starting point is 02:18:14 Not just smoked in the head. You said it. You actually commented on the thing. The ooze after with the scream right at the end of the video. It made it seem like some guy just got a golf ball in like into his forehead it kind of reminds me of that night in utah whenever they had to cancel the game but told nobody to panic sure whenever covet started with the sounds run that video of max
Starting point is 02:18:33 homo one more again here there is real trauma seemingly being had by some of the people that are watching this boo is so... So... Oh! Yeah, that's great. We hope everybody's okay. Max Hummel would inevitably come out and apologize to all who experienced the trauma of it all. But Max Hummel, that's not on you, pal. No. That person should not be standing there.
Starting point is 02:18:59 Now that person is going to say, why they let me stand there. And that's a good question, too. Sure. I'm not 100% sure why that's allowed. But we got spinning heel kicks to the head of an onlooker. And then now we got a golf ball buzz in the tower. Let's all be safer out here.
Starting point is 02:19:11 Let's all be safer. That players tournament was awesome. It was. They needed that. I appreciate, yeah, they did. They did. They did. I liked it with Harmon. They just cut out the wiggles.
Starting point is 02:19:27 They cut to him 15 wiggles in, whatever it is, however many. Only had like two wiggles, and then he would actually hit it, and it was like, director, producer, good job here. This is what they were hanging on to like Scotty Scheffler as he would like walk, and you could clearly tell that they were like, all right, he just started. Let's do a nice seven count. And we cut to him. And then watching him was awesome because he's a phenomenal golfer.
Starting point is 02:19:52 No, the production's spot on. If I'm Liv, I'm saving some of that money, and we're buying the entire production team so that they can replicate that and make the Sundays actually, you know, fun to watch for Liv. That's the biggest thing. What are you saying? I'm sick of it. Look, great tournament yesterday.
Starting point is 02:20:07 Awesome tournament. As good of a tournament as they possibly could have had. Cool. We get it. Phil, you did your thing. PGA, you did your thing. Now we've got to set our swords aside. We've got to go.
Starting point is 02:20:17 Allegedly, they're all meeting down at Baja Mar. Leader of Liv is down there. Tiger Woods is playing. He's down there. I assume Monaghan is down there. Tiger Woods is playing, is down there. I assume Monaghan is down there. Because the big PGA Live merger that was announced and kind of blindsided seemingly everybody was nowhere near actually done, I guess,
Starting point is 02:20:36 whenever it was announced that it was potentially happening. So who leaked that? Definitely not Monaghan being like, let's get this out that I told everybody that you should not do a deal with these people. But we did do a deal, even though I guess they were nowhere near done with the deal. So I think they're still trying to figure out how they can come together.
Starting point is 02:20:51 Because could you imagine Brooks Koepka cooking yesterday? And DJ maybe getting hot because the long balls were able to get to the green. Yeah, Rombo being able to get to the green. It's like that players could have been even better, which is what we're all saying. Yeah. Let's put our swords aside what we're all saying. Yeah. Let's put our swords aside. Let's move forward.
Starting point is 02:21:08 Yeah. Pay everybody. Well, that being said, Liv, you got to become watchable. Yeah. You know, if you guys are going to pay for everybody, we need you to be watchable. Right. It's tough to watch.
Starting point is 02:21:17 Why do I got to hear some doofus's aux cord when we're cutting to the fifth hole, you know? Yeah, you shouldn't. At least have your own DJ run every music that is out there. We're cutting to the fifth hole you know yeah you shouldn't at least have your own dj run every music that is out there we're cutting to somebody on the fifth hole that music is whatever and then you got the shit all over the green for what the putt is it's like i can't even see the damn hole so i have no idea how impressive this is they figured out how to film putting it zoomed out and then you literally just zoom in.
Starting point is 02:21:45 That's what putting is. That's TV putting. So we don't need all the shit on there. It's just hard to take serious. It is very hard to take serious while you're watching it, but I appreciate what they're trying to do. For sure. Music is cool. Let's leave that to the Pro-Am day though.
Starting point is 02:22:01 Once the actual golf tournament starts, I don't think anyone on the PGA Tour... No, but we listen when we play. We listen to music. For sure, but we're not playing for millions and millions of dollars and height and stint. Do you think Rom was like, I don't really want to play on the PGA Tour anymore
Starting point is 02:22:18 because on Live, they're going to be playing DJ Tiesto while I'm teeing off. That's the whole reason. These guys don't give a fuck. Fans, I mean, as long as booze is being served, I think you can do without the music because it does. It makes it feel Mickey Mouse. It feels like you're just watching
Starting point is 02:22:34 a bachelor party. This doesn't matter. That's what it makes you feel. This does not matter. Obviously, they're not taking this serious, which is not your fault, Liv. Our fault. My fault. Mostly. It's been great. But it's not just golf.. Not your fault, Liv. Our fault. My fault, mostly. It's been great in us. It's not just golf. NBA plays music and then it stops. Football plays
Starting point is 02:22:51 music, then it stops. Baseball, same deal. Hockey. When things matter. In theory, it was cool. This is going to be way different than one of those stuffy PGA events, but it's not cool. You're outlaws. We get it. You guys are outlaws. Way to go. I appreciate what PGA events, but it's not cool. Yeah, you're outlaws. We get it. You guys are outlaws. Way to go.
Starting point is 02:23:07 I appreciate what you're doing, but it's hard to watch. It is. You can't be on the CW. You just can't. CW's investing in sport. They are. They're spending money. You've got NFL Films deals. That's awesome, but the CW doesn't have
Starting point is 02:23:24 the Konica Minolta swing hub, you know, the Tracer, all that kind of stuff. Like the stuff that they actually show on like CBS and NBC, it's like, oh, shit, that's sweet. Like when they are really like breaking down their swings and it's going slow, like all of the technology and stuff like that. They should have all of that. They should.
Starting point is 02:23:42 They should. But I wonder, I mean, who knows why they don't. But it seems like it would be very easy, to Foxy's point, where you watch the players from this weekend and be like, all right, we need to recreate that. People have done that since the beginning of time in TV. Right. People have re-
Starting point is 02:24:00 I mean, this business has been, let me take the label off it. let me put a new label on it let me go ahead and send it out for a different hour yeah you know we're here let me go do it again oh we're gonna start an entire network just cookie cutter people have done when you figure it out it's like all right here it's been figured out i think cw's having the or not see well i guess kind of i think Liv has to fight that. I think Liv's going to have to fight that. Because we're so ingrained in watching, like, weekend golf.
Starting point is 02:24:30 Yeah, yeah. And, like, it matters. And following along with Shoffley. And then Scottie's ahead of him. Exactly. Because Scottie was – so Scottie's done. He's waiting now. Will this guy buckle as they're coming down?
Starting point is 02:24:41 Wyndham Clark gets hot while he's coming down to final ones. It's in there. It's like, could you imagine watching Wyndham hit his approach shot with Prada playing right next to him? Because some drunk wanted to play. Because Connor was sitting there, and he's like, Wyndham, this is what you need to hear for this month. We're going close.
Starting point is 02:25:03 We're going close. And that's how I feel when I'm watching it. And I'm an old man yelling at a cloud right now. I get that. But they need to figure it out, especially if they're going to have all the other known good golfers. Yeah. Because I would like to watch them.
Starting point is 02:25:16 I would like to watch them. Well, imagine, like, and Wyndham's doing this on 7 instead of 17 because it's a shotgun start, and that's how it works. So he's finishing on hole 8 instead of 18 or something like that. Because that's a big part of it. Like, a lot of the – it's the shotgun start and that's how it works there so he's finishing on hole eight instead of 18 or something like that and that's because that's a big part of it like a lot of the it's all it's the golfers it's coverage but it's the courses that they're playing too like we've we've all watched these courses forever like imagine the masters like they weren't finishing on 18 they're finishing on three or something like that like that's all that's all part of it too yeah because the course is a player bingo the course is a part of the entire thing. So they're having to find new courses, introduce them to people like,
Starting point is 02:25:46 hey, this one voted the toughest in tri-state area last year. This is a good course. This is a tough one. You're right, because the courses are selling themselves like DPC Sawgrass. Exactly. How about how the wind started changing a little bit towards the end? Harmon's ball started getting a little bit loose. Wait a minute, is the lefty done for?
Starting point is 02:26:05 Scotty Scheffler sends one into the middle of the green for the par three. Wait a minute. There's a little right to left up there. Did anybody tell me about that? Blows the other side. Then he rolls one to an inch and a half or whatever from 80 feet somehow. It was phenomenal. It was fun to watch.
Starting point is 02:26:19 Congrats to PGA. Yeah, absolutely. Like you were saying, too, with recreating stuff, almost forever, no matter what it is, like, when you're trying to recreate something, most places don't have just a bottomless pit of money to do so. Like, they could just be like, alright, fuck it, let's do everything
Starting point is 02:26:34 the PGA's doing. Money is no object, no cost, it doesn't matter, we can actually overspend, and it's not going to matter. Like, I thought that was the whole point. Like, we're gonna throw as much money at this fucking thing because no one can compete with it, and it just not going to matter. I thought that was the whole point. We're going to throw as much money at this fucking thing because no one can compete with it. We're golf enthusiasts that we watch every weekend.
Starting point is 02:26:53 I don't know enough about the backstories. I know Oklahoma State had a team there for a bit because they were just pumping out a bunch of pros. I know that the Golf Boys were rapping a little bit there for a bit, and I think their generation's kind of gone now. They've a little bit grown up. I don't do enough of that research, but I watch every weekend. And it's like, I would like to watch
Starting point is 02:27:12 Rome. Yeah, that'd be nice. That's the whole point. The live lineup is already better than the PGA Tour lineup. Now the production needs to be just as good. And the PGA lineup's been showing up the last few weeks. They have been. Their studs have been playing. Now Rory needs to figure it out. Ricky Fowler, he needs to not be on clips yelling at people with loud phones.
Starting point is 02:27:28 And he needs to be on leaderboards. But they'll figure that out. Justin Thomas, too. Yeah, come on, JT. Spieth. Now this week, since it's been two big tournaments in a row, let's not look at our expectations too high. All right, so we're going to see W this weekend.
Starting point is 02:27:40 Sparsh Madness this weekend. Good point. You're 100% right. Speaking of this weekend, Friday we'll be live at the Fieldhouse. Not the bar. No. The athletic facility, the Fieldhouse. 2,500 people max capacity.
Starting point is 02:27:54 I believe there will be a fire marshal keeping an eye on the entire situation. We'll be live 11 to 2 local time. Come join us. We got Roman Reigns scheduled to come. We'll acknowledge our tribal chief who I think is potentially acknowledging Kalen Clark.
Starting point is 02:28:10 He's coming on. Paying his respects. Or maybe, what if he puts her through a table? Oh my. I don't know. I thought we were just spitballing here. I don't know if they're going to want her going through a table. I don't know if there's any physicality. I don't know if Where's he going to? Well, I don't know. I thought we were just spitballing here. I don't know. I don't know if they're going to want her going through a table.
Starting point is 02:28:26 I don't know if there's any physicality. I don't know if she has a choice. I don't know if there's any physicality on Friday. She might put him through a table. She could. So he's just showing up at their break? Where's he seeing Kaitlin Clark at? I have no idea.
Starting point is 02:28:38 I thought we were just rattling here. Oh, ideas? Yeah, I have no knowledge of the event whatsoever. Oh, I thought you didn't knew more than I did. No. I thought you did have a little bit. The only thing I know is that we're going to Iowa Friday. Can't wait. That's it. Winner of a play-in game. I don't know. I'm going to beat the shit
Starting point is 02:28:54 out of whoever they play first round. Well, I do believe that Kaitlin, just like how Golden State had their run up in their arena, the hoop's a little bit bigger in there for them. Oh, yeah. Just like when Golden State was up there. Remember when that whole Splash Brothers thing started? Yep. I actually wondered to myself, these
Starting point is 02:29:09 fuckers gotta have bigger hoops at home. And they change it. You know, equipment manager changes it each quarter so they can do this entire thing. Feels like the way she shoots in there. I don't want to say it's not carefree everywhere, but it kind of is. Mostly. She's a stud.
Starting point is 02:29:29 I cannot wait to get out to Iowa to experience the whole entire Caitlin Clark experience. I'm very excited. I assume her photo's going to be on every billboard. That's what I'm thinking whenever we arrive. Whenever we walk into Casey's and we say, you know what, we want something at breakfast pizza. It's got a lot of bacon on it. We're going to see her face, I assume, right? Oh, yeah. I hope so.
Starting point is 02:29:43 We have a box of the Caitlin's Crunch Time from Hy-Vee. We're eating those Friday morning. Last time they did that was right after the Rams won the Super Bowl. It was Warner's Crunch Time. Used to have that in my room growing up. So, yeah, she's a pretty big deal. Are we allowed to eat that, or is there only a limited amount of boxes? Because they sent us one.
Starting point is 02:30:00 There's definitely a limited amount of boxes, and it is just Frosted Flakes. So, if you want to just go out and get, get like a Tony the Tiger box of Frosted Flakes. No, these are the Caitlin Crunches. Different. Well, it's not, though. You frame that. It's not, though. Yeah, you do.
Starting point is 02:30:12 We keep the box. We eat the food. We keep the box. Oh, we put Frosted Flakes in the box just like they do with bottles of liquor. Exactly. My parents used to have the Mary Lou Mew Younger Yager Wheaties box. Ooh, that's a good game. Are you talking about Caitlin's Crunch Time?
Starting point is 02:30:30 These are not Frosted Flakes. These are the greatest college basketball player of all time's Crunch Times. Right here. Caitlin Clark. Caitlin's Crunch Time. You can also win an autographed Caitlin Clark basketball. Look for a winning card inside select boxes. It's like golden tickets. I'm supposed to open this thing.
Starting point is 02:30:45 Yeah, you have to. You should do that right now. Yeah, see if you're... I don't want to... You know that. You want to be able to reseal it. Good move. Good move.
Starting point is 02:30:55 Thank you. Yeah, because sometimes you're... I'm an animal. You eat my cereal. Yeah, big dumb barbarian. He's ripped that entire thing. That could have happened. You know, that could have happened.
Starting point is 02:31:03 Gary Vee's so mad he just opened a collectible. No, I was told to. It's right here on the fucking box. Win an autographed Kaitlin Clark basketball. Look for a winning card
Starting point is 02:31:11 inside select boxes. How could you not look? We'll buy a couple of those, brother. Those do look like frosted flakes, but they're not. Kaitlin's crunched them.
Starting point is 02:31:18 Okay. Is there any part in there? Is it inside? Is it in there? Sift through it. I don't think we want it. Looks like a loser. Son of a bitch. What a horrible fucking box.
Starting point is 02:31:36 I'm going to keep this forever. With the flakes. We love Big Ten cereal boxes, dude. It's hard to get back in. Careful. Don't break it. Don't get in there. Wiggle it a little bit.
Starting point is 02:31:53 Good job. Well done. Boom. Boom. It's perfect. Should we frame that next to the Buckeye Heroes that we have? Well, the Buckeye Heroes have really... I mean, one of the Buckeye heroes flew to Jamaica
Starting point is 02:32:05 and doesn't have any luggage, so now they're just wearing local costumes all week. Congrats to the Hawk family. Going on vacation in Jamaica. So excited to be there for spring break. Can't wait to pack all of our clothes for a hundred kids. Think about how long it took them
Starting point is 02:32:21 to pack for that entire family. Get all the way down there, I guess luggage is nowhere near making it. Luggage went to Trinidad and Tobago. They're currently in Jamaica, so they can only wear what they bought at the airport currently. They look cool, though. Yeah, matching. So many Bob Marley shirts. Oh, so many.
Starting point is 02:32:37 That movie is going to be fantastic, I think. Has it already come out? I think it came out a while ago. Did it? It came out, I think, before we went on break. See? No way. That's the problem. Has anybody watched it?
Starting point is 02:32:50 I have not. We're watching that tonight. Oh, no. It was released over a month ago. February 14th. The only reason I know is because they were throwing out old One Love shirts at the Celtics game as their t-shirt. Did you watch it?
Starting point is 02:33:07 The movie? Yeah. No, but I know the story. We're jamming, we're jamming, we're jamming, we're jamming. Yeah, there are a lot of bangers in that. Three Little Birds, dude. Of course. Buffalo Soldier.
Starting point is 02:33:21 That was a part of an NFL storyline a few different times. Von Miller. Yes, it was. Driving in a drop- times. Von Miller. Yes, it was. Driving in a drop top. Buffalo soldier. I think D-Hop used one of those. Oh, yeah. He did.
Starting point is 02:33:32 Buffalo soldier. I'm worried about Von's chickens. Somebody's taking care of them. Well, no, but what if he went down and did the ayahuasca and the ayahuasca told him? I don't think it's a vegan maker. No, but what if it said, like, fuck those chickens. Sell them all. Get rid of them. Well, I think what will happen is exactly what happened with hardball remember hardball said the chicken's a scary bird a skittish bird don't want to eat chicken because i don't want to have that inside of me actually openly promoed against chickens
Starting point is 02:33:58 then he got chickens i think his kids got chickens and they lay eggs for him and he had a complete turn baby face turn on these chickens. Maybe the greatest animal he's ever seen. Production value, maintenance, very low. Production, very high. I love these chickens. He said, we need more chickens in this entire thing. I'd assume if Von Miller went to the eighth dimension.
Starting point is 02:34:18 Yep. Or nine. That's pretty deep. Are they trying to get to nine? I mean, nine is the final frontier. So I don't know if that was his first. I think you got to go somewhere else to get to nine though, don't you frontier so i don't know if that was his first i think you gotta go somewhere else to get the nine though don't you because i don't know if ayahuasca can get you there we're in the middle of a lot of these conversations while i was incredibly edible out of my mind sure but i had a lot of questions there was a lot of people
Starting point is 02:34:36 around us that had experienced it and it was my first time meeting them hey i gotta hey go to see did you do the yeah sit down i down. I got some questions. Yeah. Where are we trying to get to? You know? I guess once you... We're in the third currently, as you see. TV, probably 2D, unless you got scammed into buying a 3D like I did at Best Buy. Sure. Yes.
Starting point is 02:34:55 I also think we are three-dimensional beings, but I do think we are the first dimension. No. No? I think you are wrong. Okay. I might be. I might be. I just know it's one through nine.
Starting point is 02:35:05 I think we're in the third dimension right now. Okay. I do believe we are currently in the third dimension. Okay. Yes. Google's telling me three. Eleventh is the top. That's what this watch play said.
Starting point is 02:35:14 Oh, see, now I know that we're not. I know that our information did not go past ten. Yeah, because we heard that was you beat the game. That's final boss. Nine is like the final. The rock. The rock is what we were told. But I'm sure, especially the internet, they probably all line up as far as ayahuasca information.
Starting point is 02:35:29 All right. Let's get the hell out of here. Feels like seven's kind of wild. Seven's wild? I know for a fact four is wild. Hey, we have a big time announcement tomorrow. Huge. Big time announcement tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:35:41 Not that big. Kind of big. It's big. Yeah. It's big. Yeah. It's big. There will be people that don't think it's a big announcement. No. But there will be some people that are like, this is a big announcement.
Starting point is 02:35:52 Yep. So I don't really know. I don't know how to sell this. It's a fairly huge announcement. A lot of investment going in. Not financial. A lot of time. Yeah. Not financial. A lot of time. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:07 Attention. Effort. A lot of effort into said announcement. Not only from us, very little, but from others. Quite a bit. Quite a bit, yeah. Quite a bit more investment from others that we are big fans of and we are a part of in the venture. It's big.
Starting point is 02:36:25 Huge. For them. For some. It's big. Huge. For them. For some. Right. Everybody. Not everybody will see this as a big deal. I don't think. No. Why is that? Because they feel like you don't think it's that big of a deal. To be completely honest, there's so many things going on with said business right now that I'm not sure which announcement
Starting point is 02:36:41 we're talking about. Oh no. To be fair. Oh, con man. But I do know that everything that is in the works is massive. And I know that the one thing that could be business right now that I'm not sure which announcement we're talking about, to be fair. Oh, con man. But I do know that everything that is in the works is massive, and I know that the one thing that could be announced is very massive. That's why I don't think the one thing that could be announced is the same thing that we're talking about. No, yeah, I think you're talking about something different right now.
Starting point is 02:36:58 That is nowhere near announceable yet. Yeah, that one's nowhere near announceable yet. Nito just jumped into my ear. Yes, this is incredible. It is massive. It my ear. Yes, this is incredible. It is massive. It's not the one you were thinking of. No, it is not the one I was thinking of. Big announcement coming tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:37:12 Yeah. For some. I'm excited to hear what you were thinking about. Well, you know what I was thinking about. You know what I was thinking about. Oh, okay. Yeah, we do have some big shit cooking. To be honest, this ESPN relationship is hilarious.
Starting point is 02:37:23 Thank you. Because the people that we've gotten to meet, and then with how we operate, here, idea or concept, somebody's doing, and we're able to, yeah, okay, cool. This is our take on it. And then it's like, okay, here it goes. So there's a lot of big shit coming.
Starting point is 02:37:44 Iowa's, let's focus on Iowa. Iowa on Friday is a big deal. Hell yeah. Then we got the NFL owners meetings on Tuesday. Then we got draft night in Detroit. Yes. Mania before that. WrestleMania.
Starting point is 02:37:56 Friday. Yeah. Mania is two weeks from Friday, yeah. What's that? Mania is two weeks from Friday. That's right, man. We've been on the road to WrestleMania. I guess Thursday, really, because you guys have that event that was announced.
Starting point is 02:38:11 No, that's happening on Friday. Hall of Fame we're talking about, Friday. We got a lot of shit coming up, boys. There's a lot of things. This is the old, it's maybe too easy to do stuff now. So agree to stuff. Say we do stuff, and then those things are able to happen. Yeah, but it's just a...
Starting point is 02:38:36 Those are fun stuff. Yeah, Iowa owners meetings, that's a pop-in. That's a day. That's fun stuff. Tonight, Raleigh, North Carolina. Boom. Let's go. I cannot wait to get down there for Monday Night Raw.
Starting point is 02:38:46 It should be a great crowd. We've got to find out. The siren? Yeah. No, I won't do the siren because Bill Carr. But this is for Raw. It's not for Hurricane. Yeah, but it would be the Hurricane siren and everybody would know.
Starting point is 02:38:55 You've got to get one of those beer sticks. Okay, I will. Those things are awesome. There still will be Screamin' Caniacs, too. Yeah, there will be a lot of Screamin' Caniacs. 20,000 Screamin' Caniacs, brother. Brother. Including Bill Carr. Swag, too. Yeah, there'll be a lot of Screaming Caniacs. 20,000 Screaming Caniacs, brother. Brother. Including Bill Car.
Starting point is 02:39:08 Swag. Boom. Yeah. It's going to be a good night. It's great. Hell yeah. All right, let's get the hell out of here. We got some big news tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:39:15 Huge. What's due tomorrow, baby? Don't sell short. Mass. Huge. Mass. Gumpy's going to think it's bigger than everybody else. There's a tip.
Starting point is 02:39:24 There you go. I think that's a great tip Alright, as you go about your life Let's make sure we're telling the people that we love that we love them Let's be a friend, let's tell a friend something nice It might change their life, you never know what anybody's going through And remember, we're in this damn thing together Always will be, always have been
Starting point is 02:39:40 Team on me, team on three One, two, three, team Goodbye

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