The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1093 - Rece Davis, NFL Hybrid Kickoff Proposal With Saints Special Teams Coordinator Darren Rizzi, & Pacman Jones LIVE In The ThunderDome

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Pacman Jones, and the boys discuss at length the new NFL Hybrid kickoff rule suggestion attempting to save the kickoff in the league, and what it could mean if it is instituted this upcoming season. They also check in on Caleb Williams’ Pro Day, some other NFL free agency news including Mike Williams signing with the Jets, and much more. Joining the progrum to chat more about the NCAA tournament and why he didn’t let us know about Keisei Tominaga, and a few other questions about the tournament as we prepare for two more play-in games tonight and the Madness begins tomorrow (25:19-43:36). Later, Special Teams Coordinator of the New Orleans Saints, Darren Rizzi joins the show to chat about the new hybrid kickoff rule that he was one of the main coaches spearheading it, why he thinks it will benefit players, fans, and coaches, and how it differs from the XFL kickoff (1:08:39-1:31:58). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this big news Wednesday, March 20th, 2024. This sports program starts now. Sports are so damn wonderful, and the madness of March has begun. Last night, two teams stamped their tickets into the March Madness tourney. That'd be Colorado State who beat a Virginia team that I genuinely believe we could put a squad together in this Thunderdome and beat at basketball. Full regulation court, full regulation game, full actual basketball game with real refs.

Have Gene Steratore in there blowing the whistle. They had 14 points at halftime, and somehow Kareem Abdul-Jabbar in the Indiana State Sycamores don't have an opportunity to get in the dance, but that Virginia team does. Now, that's not the guys on team's fault. You guys are all good dudes.

Yep. Good team. You made it to the tournament. You're a tournament team. With that being said, shut up, Ben! That was terrible to watch, but congrats to Colorado State and to Wagner getting a massive dub over Howard. They only had seven active players, this Wagner squad, and they make it into the tourney. Tonight there's two more play-in games as we get excited

and eager to find our way to the beautiful state of Iowaowa this friday hell yeah there's a 2500 person occupancy that is allowed at the field house not the field house the bar we're talking about the field house the old rec center we will be there 11 to 2 local for the entirety of the show some iowa surprises stopping by that we happen to know from the past roman reigns the Roman Reigns, the undisputed universal champion of the WWE, our tribal chief of the bloodline, will be making his way to Iowa to see what the hype is all about over there with this Hawkeyes women's team that has to win and add for people to talk about them forever, but certainly have brought a lot of eyeballs to this women's basketball tournament.

We can't wait to get over there to celebrate March Madness and also celebrate one half of the Toxic Table. That's at Boston Corner on the left with the dog shirt. And on the right, Iowa alum, a man who's from Waterloo, which is also the place of... No, no, no. We're not going to go there. John Wayne Gacy did live there at one time, but no, he is from Des Plaines, Illinois. Let's just get that straight.

Okay. Anyways, anyways, going back to Iowa Friday. Ty, it's a beautiful time of year. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I'm very excited. Very excited. It's been quite some time since I've been back on campus. So, like you said, you know, I mean, this is kind of the biggest deal that has been in Iowa for quite some time. So I'm very excited to see what all the hullabaloo is about.

See how the campus has maybe changed a little bit since I've been gone. Fieldhouse was a little bit of a shithole when I was there. I think it is kind of still. Have they updated it? Yeah. So the basketball court is brand new. I did see from this. Nice.

Because you were a bit worried whenever they said we were going to the field house because your memories of the place was, that's a dump. We're going to go in there. Yeah, I mean, you know, it serves its purpose. I was on an intramural basketball team that lost a heartbreaking championship game in the field house, so I still have some demons from that field house. We'll get those demons out this Friday. Exactly, exactly. I still have some demons from that field house. We'll get those demons out this Friday. Exactly.

It'll be sweet. The last time I can remember something this crazy being at the field house was Obama was there my freshman year. It was kind of the same deal where it was like $2,500. Of course. President of the United States of America. Bar show coming in.

It was right after he had been elected. Boy, they're going to hate that. The people who have to do this President of the United States of America. Bar show coming in. It was right after he had been elected. Pretty similar stuff. Boy, they are going to hate that, the people who have to do this for those big places. Pat McAfee's show just compared itself to President Obama going to the University of Iowa. I can already see them saying that. If someone takes it like that, they're not a fool. I just read the headline. These doofuses at the Pat McAfee show compare their presence to be the same as President of the United States Barack Obama.

And they'd be absolute morons if they wrote that down because I went there. I went to school there, so I kind of know when stuff like this happens. You don't see a whole lot of big-ticket things coming to the University of Iowa, setting up a pep rally- type deal or national media coverage. It doesn't happen a whole lot. From my recollection, the last time it was getting this much buzz and something was going back to Iowa City was when President

Obama was there. You're saying Kaitlyn Clark's buzz is similar to the President of the United States. Exactly. Because what Kaitlyn Clark has done not only as an Iowa woman for the University of Iowa, but women's college basketball as a whole. That's right.

There is a couple of them right now that are going to be on the Mount Rushmore later that we're going to talk about probably changing the trajectory, not only of NIL and everything like that, but of the interest of college basketball women's, no offense, but Angel Reese, Dawn Staley, and Kaitlin Clark. They're going to be the one. Now, Flo J?

Flo J. Flo J. Yeah. Also awesome. Bars. Yeah. Absolute bars. I love her mentality.

But I think they were the ones that kind of piqued a lot of people's interest that maybe weren't watching. And then you watch the games, you're like, damn, hey, games are a real deal here. We got some real good college hoops happening. So I can't wait to get out there and experience it. It's going to be an honor. I believe there's Casey's General Store Pizza coming by at least at some point.

Heard there's been a lot of chatter. The Iowa Surprise Guests are going to be beautiful too. I can't wait to see a couple of them. Very excited about those as well. Yeah, should be a good time. We need the band. Hey band, we need something. Iowa band, we need something because we're trying to piece something together and we need you. And we've seen that band

in action. I mean, I know Ohio State says they're to biddle, but let's be honest, the Iowa Marching Band. I mean, is Metallica just giving a hat tip to every band in the nation? I don't think so. See, now a lot of people would say that's not a marching band instrument, the electric guitar that was being played during the Iowa Hawkeye Big Ten Championship at halftime. But I like to say, I like people that are disruptors. I like people that are innovators.

That halftime performance for me immediately, like, love this. That was the best part of the game. I mean, you had people. Freaking. I think. You caught it. You caught it. Hey.

Hey. No, he did not. Anyways, we can't wait to get there. Right. Band, we need you though. If you can get a hold of Ty, that'd be fantastic news. One half of the hand. Blue inside baseball.

Mm-hmm. Hey. What we're dealing with. Still safe. One half of the hammer... Blue inside baseball. What we're dealing with. One half of the hammer. Die! Cowboys tone digs is your tone. Last night, we have a friend named Boston Connor who decided that he's going to be the guinea pig for all of us, that he's going to bet on all the underdogs for the entirety of the NCAA tournament. Last night, he went one and one, and that's because he had to bet

on this Virginia team, which I mean, no offense to the Virginia team. I assume they're all great basketball players. Sure, and good people. Great people. Good boys. They're college kids. They're still trying to figure it out.

We got another beloved for them. But as I was watching them play basketball last night, I was thinking to myself, this ain't what the March Madness. This is worse than YMCA basketball in Indiana. I mean, there's better players at six to seven different gyms within a football throw away from this particular Thunderdome here in Indiana. I couldn't there's better players at six to seven different gyms within a football throw away from this particular Thunderdome here in Indiana. I couldn't even imagine in other places. One-on-one for the

underdogs. What's normal? What should we be expecting for Connor's little guinea pig test here betting on all the underdogs? I think it's a genius decision because there's always a 13, a 14, a 15 in recent history that will win. All you need is really one of those. South Dakota State's plus 1,000.

He's got whatever his units are on each bet. I didn't know if he wanted me to say it or not. He's got 100 in each dog. If he wins that one, he basically has almost all of his money back right there already. That's just on one long shot. There's going to be upsets. That's what March Madness is.

I heard J. Bill is talking about it. One seed has won 12 of the last 16 tournaments or something like that. So somebody's going to run. That's supposed to. Yes, but there's always something that's not supposed to. It's a genius idea. I'm doing the same thing with the unders, I think. I did it last night. Those went 1-1.

The over-unders went 1-1 last night. The favorites and dogs went 1-1 last night. We're off to a very even start in the tournament. Seemingly a bit more interested this year, my take, me only, from my point of view. Much more interested in the women's March Madness. Yeah. Just because of how many storylines are potentially still trying to be finished from last year. And last year, we kind of caught the tail end of the book. I didn't see the entire, I didn't read, I just read the last chapter of the book there, March Madness.

So I was kind of in there. Not a lot of betting on the women's, right? Not a lot of people talking about, hey, need to do this, need to do this. But I think what Al Duncan told us is like favorites win, underdogs lose in that tournament. It is notoriously very, very chalky. Like there is very little upset. So, and, you know, yes, we, as far as like the stars are concerned, we're a lot more into the women's tournament.

But, like, you're getting these 8-9. And I don't know about you guys. I haven't watched a ton of, like, mid-tier power five college women's basketball this year. So I think people still know a lot more about the overall tournament on the men's side. So, obviously, it lends itself to more gambling on that. Yeah, we can't wait to win it all. That's right. You won 1-1.

You had one loss. That's the last loss of the entire tournament. Still, we can't wait to win it all. That's right. You won one-on-one. You had one loss. That's the last loss of the entire tournament. Still up because of the fact that they're all underdogs. Yeah, because you're getting good odds. All of a sudden, your hunter is looking like 250. Yeah, exactly. If I knew Virginia was what Virginia was, I'm glad I didn't because if I did know, I wouldn't have bet on them,

and that's not what the experiment's all about. Yeah, they were bad, dude. It was the worst basketball game I've ever seen. I don't know if they – they couldn't have been like that all season. They got into the tournament. At some point, they just had to forget how to play basketball. That is what they were bad, dude. It was the worst basketball game I've ever seen. I don't know if they – they couldn't have been like that all season. They got into the tournament. At some point, they just had to forget how to play basketball. That is what they were. That's why everybody was so pissed off about them getting in.

Even when they won the national championship, that's how they played basketball. It was a Kyle Guy. Yeah, Kyle Guy. Kyle Guy, Indiana native a couple years back. Was he playing for the Kings, I think? I don't know who he's playing for now. Let's pivot away from March Madness, as we will revisit it in about 10 to 15 minutes with Reece Davis joining us.

Because he kind of skirted through yesterday's conversation about, you know, because we're blaming Ty. We're blaming Will Compton. Gumpy was getting blamed. That was fair. How come we agree?

How come we're just now finding out about K.C. Tominaga? Traditionally. Okay, out of Nebraska. The Japanese Steph Curry. How is just now the time that I'm learning about him? He's a senior.

Yeah. He's doing this for years. Come on. I've been being told from Nebraska Cornhuskers fans. There's another person we had on who said, hey, tell us everything we need to know about this March Madness. As if we didn't follow the season at all. We obviously did. I was talking about people that maybe watch his show

that didn't watch it. So I'm asking the questions that the people need. He rattled off a lot of things. He talked about a lot of teams. He talked about a lot of people. Not once did I hear a case of Atal Managa mentioned. No references. So we're going to have to chew him out about that, but also chit-chat about where we stand, how do we feel about the bracket,

and how did Virginia get in over Indiana State? Come on. Let's move it away from that. Let's talk a little bit about the football. We have a big day for football today. Coach Darren Rizzi, special teams coordinator for the New Orleans Saints, has been since 2019. Before that, he was with the Dolphins.

I believe he was coaching with Rutgers at some point. He'll be coming on the show in the second hour to basically lay out the rule that they're pitching at the owners meeting this upcoming weekend in Orlando to change the kickoff play completely. We've already broken it down. I think there's been a couple changes since then on what the pitch is going to be. But basically, Coach Darren Rizzi, and I don't know if they deemed him this, the other special teams coordinator, or if he felt like he was the right person for it.

He has kind of become the leader of the special teams coordinator and putting together a play that can save kickoff. Now they're going to be pitching it this weekend. Very different than what the kickoff has been. He'll be joining us in a second now. And now you talk about kickoffs, you talk about returns, because there's going to be a lot more returns with this particular kickoff if it was to be passed by the owners in the upcoming meeting.

They need 24 votes 24 24 votes start doing some math 32 24 two thirds three four everything because that goes on and on and on and on and two thirds the percentage but massively known for his return ability all pro-pro returner in the NFL. 14-year NFL vet. Ladies and gentlemen, his song, Stayin' on Business. SOB. Currently out now on all platforms.

Congrats to him on a week of promo last week. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Pacman Jones. What's up, baby? Pac, how'd promo go last week for staying on Business SOB? Oh, it's a real job. I got so much respect for Taylor Swift for doing what she do for three hours. Yeah, oh, really? What?

Oh, my God. Just imagine, I had four shows a day. I only did four songs. But, like, doing four songs, four times. Because you're getting introduced to DJs and stuff. Hey, here's Adam Pac-Man Jones, the real Pac-Man Jones. He has a new song. We just signed him to Universal.

He's going to play a couple songs for you. Right. Okay, so now the DJ's hearing, okay, I like that. Now they're playing it. Now you're getting in rotation. Yep, there you go. So that's the game. That's the game.

I did not know that's what you were doing last night. But I was performing. It was Pac House where we was at. We had DJ Holiday, core DJs. It was a good experience. I was tired at the end, but I love it. It was Packhouse where we was at. We had DJ Holiday, core DJs. It was a good experience. I was tired at the end, but I love it. It was good work. I thought I performed pretty good.

Congrats. Hell yeah, Pack. Congrats. Only going to keep going, by the way. Got another song coming out in April, right? Yes, sir. Okay, maybe got some remixes coming out? Got some remixes coming out, too.

Say no business as it will be. Hey, worth a listen. Oh, yeah. Worth a listen. Thanks. Going to give you a little. I mean, now, Connor and Gumpy all weekend, St. Patrick's Day, SOB. Hey, worth a listen. Oh, yeah. Worth a listen. Bangs. Going to give you a little. I mean, now, Connor and Gumpy all weekend, St. Patrick's Day, screaming it.

And then describing people as they're staying on business, SOB. They put it in there. We have some remixes, too. We had some remixes when we came here. Yeah, we laid out a holiday one, maybe. Standing on Christmas. Standing on Christmas. Standing on Christmas. SLC. Who's that fatty in chimney?

All that stuff. We got ideas. Yeah. If you ever need it, we're here for you. But we're also incredibly proud. Keep going. Congratulations. Stay focused on it, Pac.

You can do great things over there. Let's do some news around the NFL. Mike Williams, formerly of the Chargers, if you recall, released last week. Kind of out of nowhere. Didn't know what the case was going to be. Thought he was going to be on the squad. He gets released. Who's this?

Well, he's the big, tall, super athletic wide receiver the Chargers have had. Last year, didn't play a lot of games. Three. The years before that, though, averages playing about 12, 13 games a year. So he is big. He is a wide receiver.

There's a chance he's going to miss some games. But when he's on the field, weapon. I was hoping he was going to be in Indianapolis cold. I think there was a lot of people that were hoping he would join their team. Now he's a member of the New York Football Jets. Congrats Aaron Rogers and the Jets.

Mike Williams is signing a one-year deal worth up to $15 million with the Jets per source, says Adam Schefter. Now we would assume that the Jets and Mike Williams had talked about the quarterback, which leads us to think that Aaron's not going to be the Vice President of the United States of America? Correct. No, not anymore. Okay, we have not heard, right? No, no, no. The other running mate

has been announced, I believe. It has been officially announced? Really? I thought it was the Shanahan person. Mike? No, not Mike or Coach Kyle. I believe it is someone with the last name Shanahan. So has it been leaked that they're a favorite for it, or the official news was already broke?

I don't think it's official, but I think it was reported that he is leaning towards her and not towards Rodgers. Okay, because at some point he was leaning towards Rodgers. So, like, what's real? What is it? We don't know, but we assumed that that was not reality, that Aaron Rodgers was going to be vice president. But then he puts out that tweet, and he goes, like like what you're saying about me is not true okay that is not how i feel i have nothing but you know love for everybody that's gone through that

had a lot of extra characters yep could have said oh by the way yep staying on business not vp there it is you know he couldn't well yeah didn't say that so we were very flustered as we were reading it live on air. Is this guy actually... Mike Williams signing there kind of tells me that they've had conversations. I assume Aaron and Mike Williams have chatted. If you start looking around at that offensive side of the ball for them,

you've got Garrett Wilson, you've got Mike Williams, you've got Brees Hall in the back. They just signed Tyron Smith, right? They signed a guard. Morgan Moses from the Ravens for right tackle, and then John Simpson for guard. Okay, you got Aaron Rodgers as quarterback. They're allegedly interesting talking to Jadeveon Clowney today

on the defensive side, but that would be added to a top 10 defense in points, and I think top two in yards defense that Sala has had over there. So it's like, wait a minute. All this hype around the Jets is going to happen because they're in the big city and Aaron Rodgers is their quarterback. But it's almost like it should be, especially with the addition of him. If you bring in Clowney, that's just an added weapon to a defense

that's already stacked. How do you feel about it? And what do you think Aaron Rodgers is able to do with this team? If Aaron Rodgers is healthy, this is a hard team to beat. The question is, if something happened to Aaron Rodgers, who are they going to put in? Well, Zach Wilson's still there. Tyron Taylor.

They signed Tyron Taylor. All right. Let's just pray that nothing happened. Hey, whoa! Come on! I understand what you're saying, but it is backup quarterback. That is what is expectation of backup quarterback. How far are you going to go?

Why is Aaron good, though? You were a corner in the NFL nfl for 14 years now i don't want you to have to sit here and be like well what he does versus other people but why is aaron such highly respected by every human that's ever played against it's because the play action and the flick of the wrist he can throw the ball from the opposite side of the hash all the way to the opposite numbers on the other side everybody can't do that and he can do it and put it in a place where it doesn't matter how you're covered. Yeah. He ruins your morale, your confidence. You can be in good coverage, but the ball is going to be there,

and it's going to be on time nine times out of ten. So it's a 50-50. Now, as he gets older, the only worry would be that his arm is not as strong? That would be a thing that would – I don't think so because he didn't play the time he got in the league. So he could have had a little time. Even though he's 40 years old, I really think he's still got a lot more football in him. But that would be the worry, though, right?

The worry would be that his arm isn't as strong. So he wouldn't be able to just 60-yard, 50-yard ball over guys. Remember, he puts balls over defender's shoulders. He's like the greatest football thrower of all time. If you lose a little touch, but he's still going to be better than 90% of everybody else. He's at the top of the level when it comes to throwing the ball. You haven't seen too many quarterbacks that can throw the ball like Aaron Rodgers can throw the ball. So that is why the hype is what it is.

And I think Jets fans who've been through it for a year now, another year, with all this expectations. So much other stuff. Minga, minga. What is all this? Our team sucked again. We didn't get any other quarterbacks. We're running it back with

Hackett. We're running it back with this offense coordinator. We're running it back with this entire team. Why are we doing this? I think what we're all trying to say that's a guy that was in the NFL for 14 years, watched a lot of quarterbacks. I think any other person you say, say, hey, if he's playing, it'll be

worth it. First couple weeks might be crop. Yeah, sure. Might be. Because he's trying to figure it out, too. He's trying to figure out every single person on his team. But then if that offense is able to find a rhythm, Jets fans will be like, oh, this is something we've never had before. A crop play that might have been run by Zach Wilson or any of the other quarterbacks in the past, at least he's checking out of.

So you're not just like having the disaster play after disaster play after disaster play. He's potentially putting you in a spot to not hurt yourself. He won't give the ball to the other team. I mean, he's not going to put up a 500-yard game. Like, that's not going to happen. MetLife Stadium, you're not expecting that

to take place anyway, especially whenever the weather changes. Now with Mike and Garrett, maybe. But he is not scared to do this one right here and not bitch about it at all.

He's one of the only superstar quarterbacks where if he's not getting 100 shots up, he does not care. Like, that's what he wants to do. He'll check to a run 100% of the time if it's the right play. He's not checking out of this thing.

So I think Jets fans who have experienced all the Aaron Rodgers life, pretty much, everything he does is going to be, and he knows that at this stage. There's nothing he can do about it. And he's embraced it, I think, fully that this is how my life is. But it's like Jets fans seemingly going to be worth it. And I like that they're making more moves. A lot of teams want to mic.

Jets are able to get them somehow. Now, you know, division's getting better. Division is potentially up for the grabs. Oh, yeah. And it's a fascinating time to be a Jets fan, I would assume. Yeah, I mean, it goes for every team in terms of like, hey, the only or at least like the really good teams, like the really only thing that could kind could derail their whole season is injuries,

but I feel like more so than a lot of other teams, that's absolutely the case with the Jets, especially with some of these big free agent signings they've had. You're obviously going to worry about Mike Williams' health. You're going to worry about Tyron Smith's health. You don't know about Rodgers just because he's never had an injury like this. He's missed time in the past with collarbone and stuff like that, but you never know how his Achilles is going to react, you know,

with him being a little bit older now. So if they stay healthy, especially just on paper, and, you know, we've talked to GMs and they say like, that's bullshit. Like that shouldn't even be a phrase uttered in the NFL because it doesn't matter once you actually play the games. But like on paper, you look at their offense, you look at their defense, even their special teams, they should be one of the better teams in the AFC. Congrats, Jets fans.

We're back. It's only a matter of time before we got the American flag on September 11th. Don't do that. Don't do that. For sure, don't do that. I mean, that's the last thing you want. I'm not even going to say what I was thinking here. Also, September

11th, I do believe, is the Thursday night football game. Maybe they are on that game and it would be Kirk Herbstreit and now Michael's first because the first one's on NBC. As Jets fans, every Jets fan knows, hey, something's going to happen and it's going to stink. That is what Jets fans are thinking.

Yes, and as a Patriots fan, I want that to happen, obviously, because I don't want them to do well. You want the Kraft family to do well? I'm going to plead the fifth on that one, but with that being said... Hey, there's some real shit going on in New England right now. Oh, yeah. I don't know

if the Kraft family, in any of their projections of this Dynasty docuseries, had any clue that it would potentially turn your speaking for your friend group. Yeah, I'm not kidding. Like, a majority. Like, for sure, the people I taught you, my friends, the people I know, my family, all that. There's that aspect of it, for sure. But also just what you see on X and Instagram and everything.

Like, it's not just the people I know. It is a majority of Patriots fans. And we all know X is a fantastic focus group, which is how people should treat it. If there's an overwhelmingly one side of something being said on X, there's probably a chance that that is the feeling of a majority of people. If it's spattered, you can't be changing your entire business plan because of what Boner Garage 47 is saying. But if everybody

is saying one thing, it's not a bad focus group read. Does feel, not only focus group on X, Rodney Harrison and McCourty were on a podcast. I don't know if it's a pro football talk podcast or what it was. It was tweeted out by Florio. And they're just like, this is crap. Yeah, bullshit. Absolute crap. And all

eyes and fingers are pointing at one family for this docuseries because weren't they kind of – wasn't Jonathan Kraft kind of like celebrating that he was the one behind the docuseries? Oh, yeah, yeah. He took a victory. Hey, this is me. I'm doing this.

Not only do I run a team, I'm an executive producer. Bingo. You're welcome. Good credit. I mean, there's that aspect of it. And then now the fact that he did that. Everybody's like, oh, it's like you're the we can it's easy to point the finger yeah exactly and like that is the biggest problem and i even feel bad for guys that were clearly brady people when

the whole split between brady and belichick happened like amandola is getting buried because he was clearly on team brady and in the documentary yeah he's like best friend exactly yeah but like i feel bad for him because i'm sure he did say good things about Bill, and obviously, hey, we're not going to include that. Gronk had to come out and talk about how, like, because he was also skewed in the Brady camp, obviously. He goes down to Tampa. Only playing.

Only playing with Tom, all that stuff. But Gronk even came out, and this I think was yesterday or on Monday, and he was like, hey, I just need to set the record straight. Without Bill Belichick, I am not who I am. I needed the structure that was there in New England. I needed him to be on my ass or else I wouldn't be the player that I was. Yeah, a Hall of Famer, one of the greatest tight ends of all time. Yeah.

So what we're saying is, to kind of wrap this whole thing up, Jets fans, now's the time. Yes, it is. Now is the time. Now is the time. You got Patriots fans that are kind of wrap this whole thing up. Jets fans, now's the time. Yes, it is. Now is the time. Now is the time. You got Patriots fans that are kind of like, this is what we got to cheer for. Think about Mayo. Mayo's the new head coach. Who are you the head coach of? The Patriots.

Well, that's Bill Belichick. Well, actually, I follow Bill Belichick. Oh, sweet. They've got a great fan base that's built up over there. Well, actually, they all hate us. They hate the owner now. Because the owner. So there's that. So let's go, J, they all hate us. They hate the owner now. Because of the owner. So... So there's that. So let's go Jets.

Hey, Jets, good luck out there. Good luck. Buffalo Bills still exist. Yep. Yep. But again, they lost a lot of pieces. The Finns lost a lot of pieces. The Jets are the only team that kind of kept all their cornerstone players and now have

added a couple. All right, let's go back to March Madness, shall we? Because that is the story of the week. We will be in Iowa this Friday to celebrate the Women's March Madness tournament and the Iowa Hawkeyes having a one seed and a home game and Caitlin Clark's last run at a potential national championship. It is an honor that we'll

be a part of that. A man who will be a massive piece of the Men's March Madness, a guy who hosts a college game day all year round for football and for basketball. Friend of the program, man who led us astray and didn't tell us shit about KC Tominaga. Ladies and gentlemen, Reece Davis.

Hope you're happy, Reece. I really come on here humbled and offering my deepest apologies because when I saw your clip about KC Tominaga I was like, this is my fault. I've let you down,

and I just want to offer my sincere apology. Well, Reese, we would like to let you know you're the first person that we have blamed for not knowing who this is who has openly come out and said, I'm the one. Because we blame Ty, because he's a Big Ten fan, watches Big Ten basketball. How do you not tell us,

oh, your Iowa bias is just so strong you can't tell us about the Japanese Steph Curry. Then we go to Gumpy. Gumpy gambles on basically every college basketball game that exists. And he goes, I should have told you guys that we had a weapon. But I think Gumpy's been profiting potentially off of K. St. Tominaga and didn't want us to

know about it. But all roads led back to, yeah, I did ask you like, is there anything after you mentioned it, is there anything that I should know going into this tournament? And you said a bunch of good stuff. Bunch of great stuff. Helped us fill out our bracket, which is going to be the first one that's perfect in the history.

But there was not a mention of after knowing me, that is my, I mean, that is who you know, headband, super, super positive. Dad's 6' foot eleven former professional basketball player silky step backs he's been shooting over seven footer his whole life so his step back game is going to be insane i read a story that around his house growing up his mom and dad put in little

mini basketball hoops in every single room so you'll see some of these layups that he's doing they're very reminiscent of the highlights that you see of people in their living room doing layups with the mini ball. That is literally what he looks like whenever he's in the paint. Do they have a chance? Do they have a single chance? There he's there. That's a mini ball hoop. That is a move. That is literally a mini

ball with a mini ball hoop move. Do they have a chance here? He just has to get ridiculously hot. Are they one of the teams that can do that, or do they not have enough firepower? That's probably why I didn't know about K.C. Tominaga to begin with. No, I mean, I think they've got a chance, particularly in their first game,

because they're playing a team that's physical, rugged, tough in Texas A&M, but they don't shoot it very well. So, I mean, if K.C. and, you know, Rink Mast and Bryce Williams, this is a team that's got a lot of guys that can make threes. They get hot from the outside. A&M played very well in the SEC tournament, but over the course of the season, they don't shoot it well from anywhere. What they do is they grab misses at a highly effective rate.

But, no, I think they definitely have a chance against Texas A&M, and that will be fun to keep him going. All right, last question from me before the boys have some, and I know we've got two more playing games this evening. We watched Virginia last night just not be able to play basketball. Like, just not. I mean, it was bad. It was bad.

The one shirt was awesome. Virginia basketball is Iowa football, and Ty was, like, disgusted by that. Virginia won a national championship a couple years ago. Iowa is nowhere close. I think what he's saying is there's no offense. We have no idea how to do the sport that we are playing in an offensive fashion. Is there any more of those?

Like tonight, should we be looking out for a team that absolutely stinks, that snuck their way in? And how did Indiana State get left out, but Virginia has a chance to do what they did last night? Is that an okay comparison for casual outside looking in? There are a few other offensively challenged teams for sure in the tournament, maybe not to the degree that Virginia has been. And I want to be consistent because I always say that, you know,

selection is not indicative of performance. One doesn't validate or invalidate the other. But I think a lot of people felt like that despite the fact that Virginia had a little bit going on its resume, that if you watch them play, they didn't look like a tournament team this year. They had multiple games where they got blown out, Multiple games where they didn't get to 50 points. Now, to their credit, they found ways to win games. They finished third in the ACC, if memory serves.

I didn't think they were a tournament team. They sort of didn't look like one last night. We appreciate you speaking the truth. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar will be in here on Thursday. Oh, yeah? Oh, that's great. Full uni. Yeah.

Hell yeah. We want him to showcase what everybody missed because I don't know how many people saw as many Indiana State-Sycamore games as they should have. Sure. But what you saw Virginia do last night, wait until you see Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Larry Nerd do his thing in here. Okay?

He's going to go bananas from the elbow. Oh, yeah. We're going to set up some place for him to do no-look passes. Boom. Like that. We're trying to get unis before then, too, so we can be all in our baby blues. But I was excited March Madness got started last night.

I'm like, all right, playing games, something to watch here. Where the hell is TruTV? All right, let me find TruTV. All right, let me do this. All right, I'm on air. Is this True TV West or East? Who cares? I guess they're both playing.

And there's going to be a lot of that. And then literally all I could think of for that second game was just like, how's this team in the tournament? Ridiculous. I just heard a bunch of teams. It's going to be a good tournament, right? We got a good tournament? It will be.

We've had the entire season of massive upsets and so forth. It's going to be fun. tournament, right? We got a good tournament? It will be. We've had the entire season of massive upsets and so forth. It's going to be fun. There will be better ball than last night. Okay, that's great news. Con Man's got a question for you about that. Yeah, Reese, obviously you just came on and we asked questions, but who knows if you were even telling us the truth, so I'm just going to run it back with another one.

Aside from Tominaga, who is clearly the superstar of march going forward if you know nebraska can get it done is there like a jimmer fredette-esque shooter in this march that we're going to see from some random school a la byu where there's just one guy pulling up from all over the place or is there not really that kind of superstar player in this march madness no i think i think there are a couple guys that come to mind. One, I'm sure Ty knows very well from Illinois, Taryn Shannon, who put 36 in the championship game, I believe, for Illinois and had 40,

maybe against Tominaga in Nebraska. I don't think I have that juxtaposed, but 76 in two games. And then most people know about Dalton Connect from Tennessee, who's had some 40-point games and is kind of a shooter without a conscious, can also drive. So I think those are a couple of guys who jump off the page to me. They are on highly seeded teams, but those are the first two that come to mind,

guys who can load up a team on their back. Like Kimball Walker did several years ago. Or Joe Alexander from West Virginia in a couple of years. Sure. Hey, he got himself in a lottery during March madness. And I was at the same time friends with Joe. So like watching that'll take place. I'm like,

okay, this is what March madness is. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not always like that. I guess it's not every single year. Somebody just propels themselves. This case, a Tom and he's the one. Go ahead, Ty. March Madness is. But it's not always like that. I guess it's not every single year somebody just propels themselves, this K.

St. Tom and Arda. He's the one! He's the one. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Reese, you mentioned how the field's kind of more wide open this year. Obviously, with UMBC and then last year, FDU, we've seen a couple one seeds go down. In your opinion, which one or two seed do you think is

most susceptible to upset in the first round uh i i mean i i know this this is not the answer you want to hear i'm going to say none of them in the first round that's a good answer there's no there's no reason for for those games to happen umbc and fairly dickinson, you just can't see those coming. But, you know, sports, sometimes people, you know, Bob Knight always used to say, dumb loses more than smart wins. So you can never underestimate, you know, people getting tight, people panicking a little and then blowing a game.

They have no reason to lose. Probably the one seed that even though they're toughest, I think is vulnerable earliest would be Houston because they don't have a lot of different options offensively, and we saw that play out in the Iowa State game on Saturday. Who's coach there? Kelvin Samson. Kelvin Samson. Yeah.

He's been around a long time. They're really good, and they play harder than just about anybody. They're a great defensive team, offensive rebounding team, but they only have a couple shooters, and if a guy goes cold, they can have trouble scoring. That's B-line, the West Virginia team there. Yeah. We used to huck up threes, and then you run into a small rim one night.

Uh-oh. It's over. Yeah. It is over. Pac-Man's got a question for you, Reese. Hey, Reese, I got to show undercover dog. Which team would you pick and say that's the Undercover Dog for the bracket? I think I mentioned this the other day.

I've got New Mexico going to the Elite Eight. I like them. And a couple of teams I think people have given up on a little bit, big-name teams, but they've seen some uh seen some flaws duke and kentucky kentucky's as good an offensive team as there is in the tournament but they often choose defense to be optional and don't even get in the way sometimes on straight line drives but man can they score and and i think duke hasn't played to his capabilities the last couple of games and they might want to rectify that

and they're certainly capable if they play. Those are a couple teams, 3-4 seed line that I think could make the final. Pac-Man Jones cannot be putting Filipowski on undercourt. No, he can't. With everything that happened. He's not on the double-doll.

That cannot. Windmill dunk was pretty sick. That was sick. It was. That was pretty sick, though. Kind of ruined, though. A little bit of a dog, but the week before, it was like. Fair enough.

Fair enough. I was just glad he was okay so quickly. I think we were all glad he was okay so quickly, weren't we? Guys got Wolverine blood. Yeah, he does. Just like Russell Wilson. That's right. It's a fantastic thing.

Let's pivot away from basketball now that we have you, because massive news dropped yesterday. Go Yeah, he does. Just like Russell Wilson. That's right. It's a fantastic thing. Let's pivot away from basketball now that we have you because massive news dropped yesterday. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Risa, I know it's basketball season and tournament time, so I'm not sure if you heard this or not, but this program broke some pretty massive news yesterday when you're talking about the King of Kings and that's

football. And the news yesterday was that I believe ESPN paid $7.8 billion or something around that number for all college football playoff games, I think, until 2031, 2032. How do you feel about it? That's huge, obviously, for game day, for this show, for all ESPN shows. What's your thoughts on it? Absolutely thrilled.

Me too, Reese. Me too. Football drives a boat. It's fantastic, man. It's going to be so much fun. To be able to extend that, to have you play off games on campus, and then for us to have all of them, I'm thrilled to death about it. Really excited about that.

I said yesterday, whenever we were talking about it, as it was kind of unfolding, I don't think people understand enough that the humans that work in the college football world and i'm we we got dropped right in there a couple years ago i said this as it was happening but like behind the scenes there's people that literally their blood is college yeah like that you know been doing it for like 30 years like i think espn i i went to a seminar a couple years back about the amount of pride that ESPN has that it's associated with college football.

And like, here's these schools, here's traditions, here's what happens, here's why you need to appreciate this, here's some of this. It's like, I don't think people fully understand that because, you know, in our hot take world that we're in, you know, in conversational, in judgment world that we're in. You know, I saw a lot of people's reaction to our announcement of this thing being like, oh, great, Florida State's never getting him because Kirk Herbstreit doesn't like Florida State. Oh, great, ESPN's going to be picking. It's like ESPN doesn't make the rules of the sport. ESPN is not the ones that are in the room making the decisions, just like at the NFL but ESPN now does have you know a lot of you know connections with college football even more so as we get into that there's some people that don't love that is that just how

it's always been or what do you think Reese you've been around you know I think I think that part of it has changed a little bit over the years Pat I think you're you're right on it about that it used to be that you know people didn't associate the conferences and who got into bowl games and so forth necessarily with the television networks. Or they didn't blame us or Fox for teams moving from one conference to the other. And I think there's a misconception that all of it's being orchestrated by someone behind someone behind a curtain it's just not the way it is um i think yeah but that's how you would say if it was being that's what there's a there's a never-ending precisely yeah precisely but you know i do think now the one thing people ought to understand is we with with the exception of the big ten espn had contracts with the acc all the way through we just want we want the best teams to get there so we have the best games who

are the best product and you know beyond that um you We just want the best teams to get there so we have the best games, so we have the best product. And beyond that, the conferences, the schools have to work all of this out for themselves. We're in the television business. We want the best inventory to put on TV and we're fortunate that it worked out that we're going to continue with the college

football playoff. College football is amazing because of the amount of passion that their fans have. That's been the coolest part of it all. Now, I've been on the receiving end of it. Sure. And I've thrown myself into the, you know what? Yeah, I am going to say this. And without even knowing, just walk right into

a pool of like, yep, this guy's the biggest dipshit that's ever had a microphone by an entire alumni group. But that's what makes college football so beautiful. I think what isn't talked about enough is how behind the scenes, all the people that run college game day folks,

the college football live stuff, the college football games, those people are obsessed with the sport of college football, obsessed with the pageantry, the passion and everything. I'm certainly pumped that it's staying at ESPN, especially with the relationship we have with ESPN. This certainly benefits us. Incredible. Absolutely. In a beautiful way. We're excited about it as well at ESPN, especially with the relationship we have with it. This certainly benefits us. Incredible.

Absolutely. In a beautiful way. So we're excited about it as well. And I think, Reese, you're the right man to be hosting the biggest institution show for college football that has just been mightily invested in by Disney and ESPN. But let's talk about a new addition that's coming. I got a chance to see some of the clips of you on Dan Patrick yesterday. And Dan Patrick, obviously OG, he

asked you a question. You know, you two guys, similar hosts in the role of what you got to do, how you got to handle things, with Nick Saban joining the party. Now, this is fascinating. I don't think you and I have got to talk about this much because you've been in the middle of basketball season. We've been doing what we're doing. There was an awesome celebratory, hey, Nick Saban's bought a game

day. That's great news that the greatest coach of all time is now a part of a show that's hopefully going to be able to continue to cover college football as it transitions here. And we're going to be able to hear like there's a lot of things Nick Saban's going to say where me and a lot of people are going to be like, okay, that's my opinion now.

You know, like that is my opinion now because Nick Saban's there. And he was talking about how are you going to host with Nick Saban and talking about how it's not just like a Q&A with Nick Saban he's now the host in that have you talked to coach Saban at all about being a TV host now and what he's signing up for and what it looks like has there been any of that between you two as I know you're an Alabama man and pretty close to him and his family well we've talked a little bit broadly. I told him, I saw him when we were down for College Game Day basketball in Alabama a few weeks ago that, you know, I hope to get together with him this summer and maybe actually learn mostly from him about watching tape. brought up yesterday is really important that we all, we can ask him questions, obviously, but that he becomes part of the conversation. I think he's pretty good at that. And I really

think that the relationship that you have with him and the back and forth that you've had on the show is going to help facilitate that a lot. And if he disagrees with us, or if you guys, look, if you guys disagree with him i mean how i've always phrased it is this way like if i'm if i'm arguing with you about you know a kicker's plant foot or the way a punt was covered i'm outside of i'm outside of my lane and i shouldn't do that but you and i can argue all day long about whether a team should have gone for it on fourth down, whether they should have passed, whether this quarterback should be playing instead of that one. You know, that type of thing, I think, is fair game.

There will be things that Nick has that might be outside of our purview that maybe we do ask a little bit. But then there are things when you can say, you know what? Look, I'm Pat McAfee, all pro. I don't think you're right about this, and that's a perfectly valid way to look at it. And he can do the same to us. Hey, Nick, I've been nominated to the Hall of Fame twice. How about that? Only by eight years.

Only by eight years. So you tell me, do they feel obligated to nominate me every year? Probably. But that's neither here nor there, Nick, okay? The amount of times I'm going to say, oh, what do you know, to Nick Saban every year? Probably. But that's neither here nor there, Nick, okay? The amount of times I'm going to say, oh, what do you know, to Nick Saban, I cannot wait. That's going to be like,

there's going to be a 7 a.m., you know, before the show starts, in that little production meeting, there's going to be some bickering about something going on back and forth, and I'm just going to listen to Nick say something, I'm going, what do you know, old man, and just walk by and just be like, yes.

How many times am I going to say, Nick, say this guy. This guy. I can't wait. It should be a blast, especially with the investment that ESPN is obviously proving they'll continue to have in college football. $7.8 billion, Reece, they put into that deal. But it was us that got everybody fired.

Never forget it. Ladies and gentlemen, the voice of College Game Day, both football and basketball, absolute legend, friend of the program, family of the program. Ladies and gentlemen, the voice of college game day, both football and basketball. Absolute legend, friend of the program, family of the program. Ladies and gentlemen, and host of the college football wrap-up. That's right. Reese Davis. Thank you.

We appreciate you, Reese. He's the man. Oh, yeah. The best. That whole Saban thing is interesting. It's going to be awesome. I haven't signed a deal yet but let's just assume it happened sure yeah there's some antics yeah there's a lot going on we got to get the rights

of the college football playoffs exactly that all happened and kirk kerb for you remember on the show was like he said yeah if you don't do it i'm not doing how about that right and then florida state fans were like all right both of them yeah perfect you know and then other people threw in there. So whatever. That's going to end up happening. That is not even a conversation point. But they're still reaching out and saying, hey, what are your thoughts on this? What are your thoughts on this?

This did not happen last offseason as much. I feel really cool now that I know the people a lot more after a season together. So they're asking me questions that I haven't even thought of. Where's Nick going to sit? Ooh. Great question. What's going to happen? What are your thoughts and opinions? He's like, I'm not the one that needs to be given any opinions on this. They're like,

well, in your head, whenever you... I'm like, nope. I'm wherever you put me. I am not the one that's going to be deciding that. So there's people that are thinking about all that. That's the layers to it. That's absurd to be designing that. So there's people that are thinking about all that. That's the layers to it. That's absurd. It's March.

They're talking about that stuff. And it's end of August when it starts. Legitimately, and I think, you know, whenever people get all mad about the college football playoff process, and obviously Florida State this year, there's going to be a team next year that's pissed. At least probably two of them that are going to be pissed. That's just kind of the layup, the setup of the whole's like i i don't i don't think the people that are tweeting about you know kirk herb street deciding these like kirk herb street would die if it wasn't

college football oh yeah you know like that is that is actually lee corso same exact thing the people that are running the show behind the scenes like every day of their life they wake up and it's like oh do you see that uh backup guard a three-star out of Florida did this now? He's thinking about going here. It's like, do we get emails of this? No, you got to go on the blog. Like they look into like the chat room, like the whole, they are obsessed that people that run college football at ESPN.

Now, granted, there's people that are just hired to work. Like, hey, this person's doing this, this person's doing this. But the obsession with college football from ESPN. Now granted there's people that are just hired to work like hey this person's doing this this person's doing this but the obsession with college football from ESPN is very high so I'm I assume there's a lot of very happy people at ESPN that they're investing 7.8 billion dollars in the future that's huge news. It's huge news and we talked about yesterday like it's ginormous for ratings and just for the network in general and it's going to keep growing so like does that factor into the money that they had to pay that it's going to keep growing so like does that factor into the money that they had to pay that's going to go from 12 to 14 to 16 for sure or is there a clause in there

hey if we go to 24 teams there's going to be this many games you're going to pay more money but no overall it's it's awesome and we talk a lot about the off the field stuff possible still the same on the field like it's still awesome on the field whether you hate the NIL and kids transfer and stuff like that. It's still the same product on the field, which is awesome. You're going to get all these games on ESPN. Yeah, because last night I was trying to find True TV. Exactly.

I know True TV has those great shows in the past. I think there's that toe one. They had that toe company. Live PD was on there. Impractical Jokers? Crank Yankers? Crank Yankers. Talk about lizard lick towing.

There it is. I was going to say lot licker towing. What is it called? Lizard licking toes? I'll tell you what. What is that? Lizard lick towing. Okay.

Oh, okay. Makes more sense. Yeah. It was a toe. I mean, the way I described it was that toe show. They used to get into it when they had to. It's already on the bed. Sorry.

Already on the bed. Not coming down. I've had my shit thrown a few times in Oregon. That sounds like a nightmare. That's the worst. The Vespa, the moped? Well, the Vespa just got a bunch of tickets because I was parking them on the building sidewalk.

It's hard to get a tow truck up into there. I'm still not able to get a tow truck up into there. I'm still not able to get my transcript because of how much that Vespa... It was not a Vespa. It was a Wasp. Please have a little respect. What do you mean, Wasp? That was the name of, I think,

your Bumblebee. It was a scooter. It was a scooter. A scooter brand name. The Wasp. Remote start. So police were probably like, we got the... Oh, boy. I almost just said, brand name, the Wasp. Remote start. So police were probably like, we got the, oh boy, I almost just said it. We got the Wasp on the sidewalk here. Somebody get the ticket out immediately. I mean, I had Thor, one of our D linemen, ride on the back of this thing in Morgantown, Abyss. He's 280 pounds, round ball.

We're sitting in the back of, trying to get to like a pool party. People knew. Of course. Yeah. Oh, there's the asshole's scooter again. But I didn't go to class often when I had it. But every time I did, I would get it. But your car, because there's no parking anywhere.

No parking. You get your ass towed by Sunnyside Towing. And then they would give you a t-shirt after you go get your car. Oh, nice. Stick it to you. Gotcha. Yeah, you had to drive like 25 minutes to get to the tow yard. Then you got to go through the whole process, prove it's your car.

And then the whole, it's like a full day. You get your car towed, you owe money, and it's going to eat up three hours. But Lizard Lake Towing, the way they went about their business, top of the line. Did you see the crew? I saw the crew, yeah. I've never heard of the show. I think this was before my time. I think it's still live.

Really? I think they're still doing it, yeah. I think this was before my time. I think it's still live. Really? I think they're still doing it, yeah. Is that all new season? June 11th. Yeah, but we don't know when. That photo could be from 2021. Yeah, I'm surprised Bobby on the right there hasn't got shot yet. He's been in some altercations.

I mean, I'm surprised the guy on the left hasn't shot. The guy on the left's got good marks. That's right. Come on. Yeah, I could imagine. I mean, I want him playing for the New England Patriots. Well, God called him to do something else. Toe.

Jacking up trucks. Respect. Yeah. Oh, you're not going to pay your bills? Okay. You're not going to pay your tickets? Is that right? Oh, okay.

This car's coming with me. I paid all my tickets. Well, sorry, logistical issue then. Your day's ruined. Your day's ruined. But anyways, that's true TV. Yeah. So trying to find it last night was a whole operation.

What provider are you using? Hulu. Oh, really? That might be your issue. That is the one nice thing about YouTube TV is it just looks at what you've been watching lately. It's like, okay, you're going to probably want to watch True TV. You don't have to go through here and find what channel it's on.

It's just boom. YouTube TV's doing that? Right on the top row there. I was doing YouTube TV for the NFL. Sure, yes. Also, they do the quad box for the tournament. They do, which is yeech. YouTube TV is the one now. Hulu had

its run, and believe me, I was a Hulu guy. I had to kick it to the curb because YouTube TV is exponentially better. But if you get ESPN Plus, I think you get Hulu and Disney with it. Not Hulu live channels. Okay. As you were burying Hulu, I was realizing quickly that we are on a certain company's network.

Oh, the Hulu app and shows are unbelievable. No, no, no. Listen. We are in the streaming era. Hulu had an opportunity to get the NFL Sunday ticket. They did. They did. They did.

YouTube TV got it. And YouTube TV is like, I fell in love with. Now they're saying you can mix match games in the four box. It's about time. It's upcoming season. YouTube TV has figured it out. I was one of the biggest like, hey, I like having cable. I enjoy the cable box.

Channels. Exactly. I like channel surfing. I switched to YouTube TV. I was like, what the hell am I doing? This is a thousand times better than cable. I will never YouTube TV. I was like, what the hell am I doing? This is a thousand times better than cable. I will never go back. It's unbelievable. Is that the greatest YouTube TV commercial of all time? It might be. I'm a man who's miserable and watches a lot

of TV. Loves channel surfing. Loves it. That's the Thursday night Amazon game problem I have. They go to commercial, I can't go anywhere. It's a nightmare. You're kind of stuck there. They need to be charging more money for those commercials. You're telling me. Because you're forced to watch them.

Yeah. And everybody does. I'm quite sure that, yeah, they're probably charging a lot for those commercials. Yeah, the people running the sports Amazon, big brains. Who knows about that? What was that? What did you say? What the hell is going on over here?

Let's go to some more news. Saquon barkley just took a massive dump on the new york football giants yep i i did not expect this as quickly as it i'm joking it wasn't that big it was a nice story from a behind the scenes blog or vlog uh about saquon barkley's first 24 hours as a philadelphia eagle tells a story about him and his daughter after the Giants lose to the Eagles. A lot of history in my career with the Eagles. I remember one time when I was with the Giants and we lost to Philly in the playoffs. We went to diner to get some breakfast,

and there was a bird, and she was like, Daddy, oh, no, oh, no. And I'm like, what is it? She points to the bird, and she was like, it's the Eagles, it's the Eagles. And me and Anna, you know, we just started laughing. I just put my head down. I just kind of started shaking.

So when I told her that we're going to be going to Philly, she kind of was just like, does that mean we're going to win now? And I just started smiling again. Oh, no. Hopefully we'll win some more games. Hopefully we'll win some more games. Hopefully we'll have a little bit more happy nights with that. Okay, Dort, football season.

Bruce Brown in the back, massive Giants fan. Obviously he feels the same exact amount of pain that Saquon's daughter feels every single Sunday with this Giants team seemingly over the last 10 years. Yeah, pretty much. I mean, you know. And Saquon hates you guys now because Tiki said, go ahead and get your shit packed and get out of here. Tiki hasn't spoken for Giants fans since he talked shit about Eli Manning's leadership

right after he retired before the Giants won their two Super Bowls. You know, Tiki's just kind of doing the New York sports media thing. But I've kind of run through the gauntlet of emotions with Saquon. I'm now just happy for him and, you know, hoping that he does win some more games. Hey, that's very nice. That was some good sportsmanship. This free agency period, a lot of players go Hey, that's very nice. That was sportsmanship. Very nice. That was some good sportsmanship. Great sportsmanship. This free agency period, a lot of players go into, like, division rivals.

Yeah. Obviously, the Patrick Queen. This is a big one because of how Giants fans feel about Eagles fans. Aaron Jones. Poyer. Poyer, Aaron Jones, all this. You almost signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers, right, after you were with the Bengals? Yeah.

Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah, you have a right. Yeah, right. It's very different now. Yeah, it's very different now. I turned over my grave before I would have signed with the Steelers. That's just me, personally, because I was with the Bengals for 10 years,

and I was pretty much three years was going to be my last deal, so there's no way I would have won the Pittsburgh, even if they would have offered me more money, just because of the clash. Now, a lot of people would say, business wise, that's not the best decision, but you would say, that's like, it was different then. It's very interesting

because now with all the DAP up afterwards, the jersey swaps are just like norm. Equipment managers are ordering more jerseys for everybody so that they can do the jersey swaps afterwards. So people have to do the full, like, good to see you, good to see you, good to see you.

It was never like that in the past. No, when we was playing, I used to tell my home, hey, look, I'm going to speak to you before the game, but I ain't helping nobody up. Like, once this thing get going, you're on your own, bro. There's still some people that are like that, I assume. But, like, Patrick Queen going to the Steelers from the Ravens, because Patrick Queen was a tone setter

for the Baltimore Ravens. Hell of a player. And somebody brought to my attention that we said bus in the first round for quarterbacks. They're not getting a second contract with the same team. It's like Patrick Queen didn't either, I guess. But he got a deal for somebody else. I don't think anybody's calling him a bus.

I think there's situations or situation in this entire thing whenever you sign it somewhere else. But like Patrick Queen being a Steeler and now being like, yeah, I hate the Ravens. You guys love that, I would assume. I think there's situations or situation in this entire thing whenever you sign it somewhere else. But Patrick Queen being a Steeler and now being like, yeah, I hate the Ravens, you guys love that, I would assume. Absolutely love it. He talked about being the villain and how much he loved it and how much he wanted to do that. And then he also put out a tweet like, hey, fans, it's not like that.

Like on game day, yeah, sure. But other than that, like we don't care a lot of the time, which, you, which is how it is now. All I care is that when the bubble kicks off until the end of the game, is that no friends.

Before the game, before the game, before the game, after the game, I don't care about the jersey swaps, I don't care if you're dapping up before the game, but as soon as you go, go. What about making TikToks before the game, but as soon as you go, go. What about making TikToks before the game? What about making TikToks during the game?

Whenever you're lined up at wide receiver and you're actually dancing. You took a word out of them. The other team's yelling at you. Yeah, that's different because you're not focused on the game. At least if you're talking to your friend, your opponent before the game, you're trying to get in his head. You're trying to get information out of him. Pac-Man used to talk to all of them. Did you hear that Mitch Moore story? Yeah. You're trying to get information out of him. Pac-Man used to talk to all of them. Oh, what?

That Mitch Moore story? Yeah. That he told us about Pac-Man? Pac-Man came out and talked shit to 10 offensive linemen by himself. And I thought to myself, man, I hope one day I have the confidence to be able to be Pac-Man Jones. He told you, you remember Mitch Moore, right? Yeah. Mitch Moore, yeah. Yeah, he's now with.

Incredible. Who did he sign with? With the Jaguars? Dolphins, maybe? I believe it was the Jags. I thought it wasse, right? Yeah. He's down with... Incredible. With the Jaguars? Dolphins, maybe? I believe it was the Jags. I thought it was the Jags. What Mitch Morse didn't know is that what Pac was doing? Stand on business.

SOB? That's right. All that hipping up. I don't like all hipping up the opposite team after you make a tackle. That's sportsmanship... I hate it. Be cool with them after the game. You'd never win the sportsmanship award. I wouldn't.

Once the whistle blows, we are not friends. Period. Point blank. Whatever you got to do to get yourself into a mind frame to play football, you do what you got to do. But it does feel like now there's a lot more division rivals. We know a lot about that guy. He's a pretty good player. He's beat us numerous times. Let's get him on our squad.

And being like, yeah, money's good. Who cares? I'm indifferent about it. But I do love the storylines like Giants fans having to watch Shaquan. Sports! Are fantastic. And we're lucky to cover them every single day. The Talks at Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt.

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And you, too, could be staying on business. SOB. Speaking of staying on business, Caden Proctor, formerly of the Alabama Crimson Tide football team, left tackle from Iowa. Yep. Transferred to Iowa when Kalen DeBoer was named head coach. Nick Saban was retiring. That was a couple, that was like 57 days ago. He's going home.

Love that. Yeah. Well, as of last night, he's going back to Bama. I hate Iowa. What? What the hell happened? Last night, news broke that Caden Proctor, who's 6'7", left tackle, probable NFL first rounder. A man who was anchoring that Alabama offensive line for the incredible

run that they had all the way to the Rose Bowl when they inevitably lost the national champions of Michigan Wolverines. Now it has been announced that Caden Proctor will instead not go back to Iowa like it was formally announced and Iowa even potentially got a tampering charge for recruiting him back. He's going back to Alabama. Tampering charge stays with Iowa. Not 100% sure how that's going to work out. But, Ty, you were supposed to have a brand-new offensive lineman. Now you've got nothing.

Yeah, I mean, this is one of those things where, like, it's hard to really care that much because he's a young kid. So, like, I see a lot of people that were, like, tweeting at his mom and saying, like, hey, you raised a piece of shit and stuff like that. I mean, if this is what's best for his future, then so be it. that were tweeting at his mom and saying, hey, you raised a piece of shit and stuff like that. If this is what's best for his future, then so be it. I do think this is one of those things with the transfer portal that they need to tighten up. I don't think you should be able to transfer back.

Because he enrolled at Iowa and was in there for, I guess, a little bit of this semester. I don't think you should be able to just be like, okay, actually, I'm going to go back to Bama now. That seems like it's kind of bullshit, but at the end of the day, he never actually officially played for Iowa. So, I mean, he is. He's probably going to be a first-round pick.

So would it have been nice for him to suit up at Iowa and play? Absolutely. But if he's comfortable at Alabama, he just spent a year in school there, who knows what's going on in his personal life. If he wants to go back to Alabama, then so be it. That's his prerogative, and he should be able to do that. Well, Iowa Hawkeyes lose out on what was going to be a superstar for that offense next year, maybe getting first down.

Whoa, easy. Run left. I was going to say, if you do remember, after he decided to go back to Iowa, basically said, hey, it doesn't matter who's playing quarterback. It doesn't matter what's going on because we are just going to run off his left butt cheek the entire season. That's not going to happen anymore. So Tim Lester, the illustrious offensive coordinator that we hired,

he's going to have to go back in the kitchen and start cooking. Tim Lester was known for having great offense, right? Yeah, big time, Big time at Western Michigan or whatever second-rate school he was at before he came to Iowa. So yeah, he's... Western Michigan had way more first downs than Iowa. Yeah, second-rate. They probably went like 5-6.

Those guys, they don't got Hooper Dijon at Western Michigan. You're all darn right. And guess who doesn't have many more? Iowa doesn't. We've got to figure something out, but the boys will be ready to go come fall. Maybe Kaitlin Clark does opt out of going to the WNBA and chooses to play for the Iowa Hawkeyes football team. That'd be sweet.

That'd be cool for you guys. We need her. We need her in Indiana. Yeah, you're right. We need her to be a favorite player. Let's not even throw those ideas out there. More college news into NFL news. Caleb Williams has arrived at his pro day at USC.

It is not just Caleb Williams on that field. Obviously, all eyes are on the number one over-projected pick, the superstar Heisman winner out of USC, who still has yet to get a haircut or a shave, which we do appreciate and respect. A man who I think turned a lot of heads at the Combine whenever he was doing all of the incredibly superhero things, shaking everybody's hand, even in production meetings,

introducing himself locally, going and seeing some local kids here in Indianapolis to say hello, kind of talk to them, motivate, inspire them. I went from being like, Caleb, there's a lot of talent in the NFL. There's a lot of superstars in the NFL. So what his camp was saying, what his team was saying, I want a percentage of a team. It's like, hey, Bob, the NFL is going to go on with

or without you. This is a much different situation than college football. No offense is how a lot of people felt about Caleb Williams. Then one weekend in Indianapolis, I'm hearing from waiters at restaurants. I'm hearing from Robert Mathis with the Gridiron Gang. I'm hearing from GMs and teams

and ESPN's talking about how at our meeting what he did, who he introduced himself. It's like this guy's team has been talking for him a lot. Feels like we need to get to know him better because what we're learning quickly is this is going to be the guy that you want to lead your team. From being a little bit of an abysmal mess for most recent history to maybe a relevant conversation in the NFC North. Ibra Floos is there, the head coach of the Bears. Keenan Allen, the newest member of the Chicago Bears, is there. You saw him dap up whenever he came onto the field.

And today is going to be a choreographed, rehearsed, offensive display by Taylor Williams that's going to leave us all dumbfounded and gobsmacked by his talent. This guy can be special. he's throwing a jerry rice's kid which helps and they weren't able to win many games because their defense has given up like 55 points and by many games i mean like the big ones whenever we talk about championships and everything which are going to hold over his head but this guy is being talked about as the next

one pac-man what are your thoughts on if a rookie quarterback can play in the style that he plays and have success and do you think it's going to be easy to follow up what C.J. Stroud just did as the greatest NFL rookie quarterback in history? That's real. I don't know if he's going to be able to do what Stroud did. Stroud had one of the best years that we'll ever see. This kid can play football. The question is, can he throw the comebacks and do the little things? We know he can throw the deep ball.

They threw the deep ball the whole season. But I think he could be good. I don't like all the other antics that's coming with it about what team you want to go to. Yeah, I'll go here. I'll maybe do this. Yeah, it feels like that's bullshit, though. That was his team.

It was either his team or maybe it was somebody that didn't think they were going to be in the top three picks trying to, like, say some bullshit. Or, you know, people did say that, and everybody immediately was like, right, please can't it. I read it on something. It was like, you should say you don't want to go to

the Bears and do what people ask you to do. That was RG3. RG3. Right. Well, I learned the origin story of triple sticks and I don't know if he loves that. What's the origin story?

What do you mean? I think it's in the jungle. Yeah, that's the first time I ever heard Triple Sticks was in the jungle. It's your mom, right? Yeah, bingo. Yeah, so. The Romey was speaking very highly of him when he was talking about it. Was he?

I think so, if my memory serves right. Usually is. Yeah. Anyways, RG3 is a massive media personality now. They have him on Monday Night Countdown. He's on all NFL stuff. Does a lot of college stuff as well, but legitimate personality in the NFL sport. Has won an NFL Rookie of the Year over Andrew Luck.

So his say matters matters and it's going to reach a lot of people whenever he did that hey he needs to command that the chicago bears don't draft him boy that got quite a reaction out of a lot of people in rg3 became the guy who became like okay this guy what are we even this is the nfl there's 32 jobs like what are we you're getting drafted that high because you are very good, and their place is still trying to turn over. Now, they didn't even – this is the Panthers' number one overall pick, not the Bears.

But instead, like, RG3 becomes almost heel, and Caleb Williams is a guy now that would be honored to be a Chicago Bear, like would be very excited to go and be a part of changing a culture in a place that has a very passionate fan base. Like, everything Caleb's saying seems to be right. And today will be another display of him being great with a football in his hand. Yeah, and Dan Orlovsky, I saw the bottom line on Get Up this morning about how it is the greatest situation in the last 30 years for a number one overall pick.

Like, think about Burrow. Like, Burrow came in as number one overall, got murdered, legitimately almost got his head taking off of his body because the Bengals deserved and earned the number one overall pick. And then you look at the Bears and it's like, hey, the Bears probably would have had a top five pick. And then they closed the season so hot after trading for sweat. Like they were finally getting their groove when the season ended.

They still end up with the number one pick because of the Panthers. And then you look at the moves they made this offseason. It's like, hey, now he has Keenan Allen and DJ Moore. That's probably the biggest or number one problem he has with going to Chicago is going to DJ Moore and being like, hey, I heard what you said about me and Fields being better than me. Can you just

give me a couple practices to prove it that I am pretty good at football? Because aside from that, they drafted first round O-line last year. They're going to have another top 10 pick. They could probably draft another first round top 10 tackle this year with him. They don't really need weapons

now because they have Keenan and DJ Moore. Signed Swift. Paid Cole Komet. They don't have that many holes on their team. And Ibraflus' culture is seemingly settling in. And his culture was something that was beloved here in Indianapolis by everybody that played in there. And they're putting a focus

on it and getting people that he wants in there. It feels like they're maybe turning a corner. Seriously. Hey, Zito, you guys are turning a corner right now. Now it sucks for Justin Fields. That this didn't all happen whenever Justin Fields was coming in as the number 11 overall pick to the Chicago Bears.

But it's like with Caleb Williams, you've got to be pumped that you're going to a team that isn't the worst in the NFL, wasn't the worst in the NFL, and also investing in what would make a rookie NFL quarterback's life easier. We've got offensive line, defense, and running back. So what does that mean? Well, there's a lot of this happening. And then what?

And then who? And then now Caleb has a little bit of – who are his receivers? He doesn't have any – oh, they just signed another one. A guy who's just always open. It's like good for the – look at the Bears. Seriously. It's a positive call. Watch out.

That division, like if the Vikings trade up and do get one of those top three guys, all of a sudden they're, what, four quarterback? I guess you could say three because Goff's a little older. But, like, three very, very young quarterbacks in that division for the next 15 years. The NFC North's the kitchen. It's hot in the kitchen. It is.

That's how it goes. And the cream's still at the top. Foxy knows. The Detroit Lions? No, I mean, I'm saying the Packers and the Lions are, you know, right there. Yeah. Well, you can't just say half of the division is the cream that's at the top. Well, it is, though, because half the division won a playoff game last year.

The Lions won a couple. And if they wouldn't have choked in the NFC Championship, they would have went to the Super Bowl. And they would have won the Super Bowl. And if the Packers wouldn't have choked in, they should have beat the Niners and they'd probably beat the Lions. They may probably win the Super Bowl. NFC North's got a couple Super Bowl champions.

It does. It does. You're a nose hair away from two Super Bowl champions in the division. Nobody's talking about it. No, they're not. NFC North, small towns. Okay. Okay, nobody wants to talk about it.

And those teams only got better. So maybe that's what RG3 was talking about. Could be. Maybe RG3 would say, you need to get out of Chicago. You got two Super Bowl champions in the NFC North already. So maybe that's what RG3 was talking about. Could be. Maybe RG3 would say, you need to get out of Chicago. You've got two Super Bowl champions in the NFC North already. You need to get to the NFC East. Everybody stinks over here.

Everybody stinks. One of them just went to the Super Bowl. Let's talk about the NFL in a little bit more in-depth fashion, shall we? Yes. Let's talk about a play that not only I was paid about half my salary to do, Adam Pacman Jones was paid to be a part of, and a play that has produced some of the most electric moments in the history of the NFL was on the verge of being eliminated. No.

Oh, my God. They were talking about getting rid of it. Hey, how do you start a football game? Well, it's kickoff. Well, it's kickoff. Well, it's 11 on 11. Kick a ball off. We got high speed.

We got strategy. We got wedges. We got big hits. We got tackles. We got oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, house calls. Da-da-da. Da-da-da. Dum-dum.

Then all of a sudden, then all of a sudden, stats started coming out. People started chit-chatting. And we realized, I guess, that there's a lot more injuries Then all of a sudden, stats started coming out. People started chit-chatting. And we realized, I guess, that there's a lot more injuries on this particular play as most people are running about 17 to 18 miles an hour. That's Pac-Man Jones at the 30, 25, 20, fourth quarter, down seven. Ooh, caught by, is that a white guy?

What? Was that a white guy? Is that the kicker? Is that the kicker? That was not a kicker, but that looked like a white guy. That might have been a white guy? What? Was that a white guy? Is that the kicker? Is that the kicker? That was not a kicker, but that looked like a white guy. That might have been a white guy. That's Sean Morgan. Hey, that white guy is really fast.

That got rolling. He went to 600. Is that Dan Morgan, 42? It might be. Wow. I didn't know that that was a Caucasian that caught you on your longest kickoff return of your entire career. Yikes.

Boy, that jacks me up all of a sudden. Yeah. But there was a chance at that particular play. Great return, Pat. Yeah. Bengals will go on to score the next play, tie up, go to overtime, ends up being a tie. So when you talk about massive plays and swinging of momentum

and things that some teams are able to take advantage of and some teams don't focus on enough, like there's a lot of strategy, jobs, and everything on the line in every single kickoff. And because of the stats saying that it's the most injury-riddled play in football, we need to get ourselves – Graham Gano kind of got shook there too. Why did you do that? I sent him down.

Hey, he might have caught you too. Yeah, you got trapped. You're lucky, Gano. Hey. Man, no wonder you retired. Oh, my. Let's move along. Okay.

Pac-Man, that was a great return. That was a great return. Good. It would be great if he scored. He's move along. Okay. Pac-Man, that was a great return. That was a great return. Good. It'd be great if he scored. He's an old pro returner, too. Not that year. That's actually his longest kickoff return, too. Normally, DB's not doing kickoff return.

Why? Because they're on the field the entire drive. And then what? Kickoff, now we need to go 105. Normally, your wide receivers, running backs, a little bit of people that maybe been on stride out a little bit so the white guys don't get you at the 5-yard line. Anyways, with all that being said, that was Colin Jones.

His name was Colin? That was Colin Jones! Hey Colin, howdy baby Colin! Got tackled by Colin? Will Compton did not have Colin Jones on the team. But we would like to submit some evidence that Colin Jones might deserve a little bit of a look. They never used Colin in the right way. They didn't.

This guy should have been on the outside. Yeah, DB. What the hell? Oh, my God. He was safety. Hey, now baby Colin. Hey, baby Colin. 137 games.

That's a dog. Yeah. Put in his time. Anyways, so the kickoff was about to be eliminated completely. There's been a couple different options over the last couple years that have been pitched to the NFL, and the NFL didn't like it, or maybe all the special teams coordinators didn't get on board, so there was a little bit of fighting amongst the coordinators

and special teams ranks. Can you get 24-hours to pass this? Yes, but how do the coordinators feel about it? They hate everything. The coordinators seemingly have come together with an idea that they all enjoy, an idea that they all enjoy an idea that'll save kickoff that'll save special teamers jobs that'll save the strategy of kickoff returns in the game while also still having an opportunity for a team to recover an

onside kick so that if they're in the game in the fourth quarter they can still get back like they've always been able to do there's a rule proposal proposal called the NFL Hybrid Kickoff that they're pitching this weekend that could potentially save the kickoff play. The leader of the special teams coordinators that have kind of architected this particular kickoff off of the XFL's kickoff, ladies and gentlemen from the New Orleans Saints, Coach

Darren Rizzo. He's a Jersey boy. You'll be able to tell that immediately upon him opening his mouth. Coach, good seeing you, pal. What's going on, fellas? Hey, I got to say this first. Colin Jones was a hell of a player. Yeah, he was, wasn't he?

Colin Jones could play. Yeah. Yeah, he walked Pac-Man Jones. Hey, Pac, what'd you run your 40 in? 4-2-8. 4-2-8? What? Colin Jones was running a fly 4-1.

Yeah. Oh, my. Hey, but I'm still upset at Pac-Man-8. 4-2-8? What? Colin Jones is running a fly 4-1. Yeah. Oh, my. I'm still upset at Pac-Man about something. He probably will remember this. The Dolphins were playing the Bengals. We're in pregame one year, and our punter's kicking balls down into their end. And Pac-Man's catching them and turning around and kicking them in the stands. Little Moxie.

I definitely remember that. Yeah, I don't know how many balls you guys brought for the game, but you're going to be out a few. Yeah, the other team's returner catching the punts in warm-ups was always like just frowned upon. Of course. But there were a few returners that would try to steal a couple because if you're watching how the ball is turning over,

you get a chance to kind of get a seat. Because you see it on film, you know, but actually get a chance to feel it. And then they come over, you can't do that. Oh, you're right, you're over, you get a chance to kind of get a seat. Because you see it on film, you know, but actually get a chance to feel it. And then they come over, you can't do that. Oh, you're right, you're right, you're right. But I already stole it. I already got the entire situation. Obviously, Pac, one of the greatest returners of all time,

he's not the only person that did that. But, Coach, let's talk about this kickoff rule. Let's talk about how we got here. So it feels as if from not only you, but all the other special teams coordinators that I've talked to, is there was almost like a, hey, we need to figure something out or they're going to eliminate the kickoff is that a real feeling an accurate feeling and how passionate were you guys to put something together to save the play coach yeah i that is that that is the narrative pat

and i think you're right but i think this, the game is called football, and we want to make sure we're keeping the foot in the game. That's the number one goal of the special teams coaches. Listen, I know this. We all got together in Indianapolis, all the special teams coordinators. There was about 55 or 60 total special teams coaches in the meeting. It was a collaborative effort. We've gone through this rule with a five-tooth comb. And here's the goal. The goal was two things. Number one, make this play safer. You mentioned

it. I just saw your opening. You're talking about making this play kind of shrink into space and speed of the play a little bit, making this play a safer play for the players. And then number two, making this more exciting for the fans. Last year in the NFL regular season, there was 1,970 touchbacks. You know, no one wants to watch that. No one wants to watch. The most watched football program or the most watched television show of all time is the Super Bowl. There was 13 touchbacks, no kickoff return. So, you know, we took upon ourselves in a collaborative effort to come up with what we feel,

after about a two-year study, is a really good, a condensed version of what we do now, the hybrid kickoff that's going to, number one, make this play a lot more safer, and number two, get that excitement back in the game. Okay, which we love, and I was very against this, openly and loud. You actually hit me up a couple different times on my show being like hey would like to explain why we're doing hey would like to explain why we're doing this because I it's hard to look at that XFL one and not go well this is Mickey Mouse but then as you start putting stats together and then also realizing that this game or this play could not even this thing could be extinct if we don't figure this out because the injury rates continue

to be what they are, but also the boredom of what these plays have become. I'm a massive kickoff fan. I love the play. I think there's a lot of strategy. But when you're watching a game, it's just like, all right, it's a showcase. And these guys are kicking balls further than they've ever kicked them before. I watched Buckner put one fifth row maybe, and I'm like, damn.

These dudes are murdering balls. So aside from it being a home run derby by the kickers, it has lost its luster. So let's go to the rule that you guys are going to be pitching or the kickoff that you're going to be pitching. Here's the graphic that we made. The NFL also released their own graphic today, I think just moments ago, because they heard that we were going to be talking about this on the show, Coach. So basically, if we can go through this, and correct me if I'm ever wrong, kickers will still be kicking off from the 35 the rest of the kickoff team will be lined up at the plus 40

that's the other team's 40 have to have two players outside the numbers on each side two players in the alleys or the lanes which is in between the numbers and the hash marks on each side and then one player on each hash mark that That is 11 on the kickoff team, and that is correct? That is correct, yes. And then on the flip side, at the 35, because in between the 40 and the 35 will be a neutral zone, we will talk about that in a moment. No headshots in there.

No takeouts, no spears, no nothing. That's a neutral zone in between the 40 and the 35. In between the 35 and the 30, there has to be nine players. Seven of them have to have their foot on the 35-yard line. Two of them are allowed to be behind, but they cannot move until the ball touches something after the ball is kicked, correct? That's correct. You're good so far, yep.

And then from the goal line to the 20 will be the landing zone where you're allowed to have two returners and those returners are allowed to move right i believe before the ball is kicked or touches anything that's correct they can go anywhere in that landing zone move around any formation they could stack they could be together they could be apart doesn't matter yep okay so you got 10 coverage guys and nine blocking people within 10 yards of each other so that eliminates the big time run up shots with each other that So that eliminates the big time run up shots with each other. That eliminates any potential blind sides running from the other

side of the field because you're all kind of linked together. This is pseudo a punt when the ball is already in the middle of the air or a kickoff whenever everybody is already gathered after the full speed 45 yard run up with the other side. Trying to eliminate massive collisions, trying to eliminate hamstring pulls and head injuries, right? That is why we're doing this setup here, coach. Yeah, I would agree with that. The injury rate right now, as we believe this and running all the tests on it, everything, we feel the injury rate will be way down and come down closer to what a normal offensive, defensive scrimmage play would look like. Yes. Okay, so let's go to the kicking now now the ball has to land in the landing zone and nobody on the field will move

other than the returners and the kicker until the ball touches something whether that's a returner catching it or the ball hitting the ground in the landing zone then the play will officially start for the 10 and 9 people that are blocking around the neutral zone. If the ball is kicked into the end zone as a touchback on the fly, the return team will get the ball at the 35. If you kick it and it doesn't make it to the landing zone or you kick it out of bounds, returning team gets the ball at the 40. That's one first down away with some kickers from points. So it's a massive penalty. So what is being encouraged here is kick the ball into the landing zone. As soon as the returner gets it, probably want to land that within the five.

Okay. You probably want to kick that, land that within the five, because if you landed at the 19, returner gets a full running start on that before anybody has moved. And then boom, we just have standard kickoff rules. No double teams no wedges no blind sides right coach well the guys in the setup zone pat they can they can be a part of a double team the only guy that can't be a part of a double team is the is the guy in the back the off returner that doesn't get the ball he can't come clean anybody up he can't be part of any double teams but the guys in the setup zone those nine players they can just like currently they can be part of a double team. Okay, going to have to be quick to set that up. I mean, that is going to be difficult with everybody being right on top of you already. This is a

take off the XFL. I believe there's a couple of things that are different. Speaking of different, onside kick rules. Well, those only can happen in the fourth quarter for the team that is down, and they have to deem that they're doing an onside kick in which the setup will go back to what it currently is and you have to kick an onside kick in that particular rep only in the fourth quarter losing team beforehand have to say we're doing an onside kick proper is that right that's correct and then the ball is going to have to be touched in that setup zone area so basically the kickoff team be the same exact rules as it is now, but you can't, what you couldn't do is you couldn't declare an onside kick and then kick the ball deep. That'll be an unsportsmanlike.

So that ball's got to be touching that 25-yard area, which is where all the onside kicks are touched right now anyway. So really no change, no big difference to that part. Okay, okay, because I had that question because I have a couple onside kicks that I have kicked. Like here's one against Tennessee Titans where

I hit it a little fat so it goes a little deeper, but that ball's recovered 25 yards down the field there at the 40, you know? So in my head, at the beginning of the fourth quarter, we're going to deem that we're going to do an onside kick, but we need a 20-yard, 25-yard onside

kick here as opposed to one that we're trying to get it to 10, 11 yards. I was immediately trying to game this. I was immediately like, if these are the rules, I'm going to try to game this thing as much as possible. You already thought about that because all you assholes were doing the same thing. Yes, that is what happened. Yeah, no question.

What we don't want is a team that's trailing and want to give them the opportunity, obviously, to recover the onside kick, but at the same time we don't want a team to declare an onside kick and then kick the ball deep so that would be an unsportsmanlike so you have a 25 yard area to work with that ball's got to be touched in that area okay i think it's extreme which is fair biggest win for kicking team is ball lands in landing zone then becomes a touchback because then the ball comes out to the 20 which is what an old touchback used to be.

That is what would be the perfect outcome for the kicking team? That is what they would be looking for, yes? I think two aspects for the kicking team. Yeah, both you've mentioned. One, hang the ball, get that ball down as close to the goal line as you can without going in the end zone, and then go cover. And then the second one is if you can get the ball on the ground and it rolls in to the end zone like you mentioned.

The ball comes in at 20. One small caveat that you didn't mention is every ball, like old school rules, every ball is going to have to be downed in the end zone. The ball that lands in the end zone untouched has to be downed. We're going to down every ball. The reason for that is those balls that might skip into the end zone, we don't want those to be automatic touchbacks.

We want to give the return team the opportunity to go in, take the ball out, and be able to still return the ball, where right now under the current umbrella, you would not be able to do that. So every ball will be down. Okay, so it sounds like we're trying to create a lot more returns and make teams want to return the ball as opposed to just taking the ball in the 25.

And teams are not going to want to give up a 35-yard start line if you hit an actual touchback or a 40-yard if you don't make it in the landing zone. So we're going to get more returns seemingly out of this. Have you guys ran the numbers on how many more plays and how much more action we will get from this particular kickoff? Yeah, the feeling, Pat, is that there will probably be about an 80% to 85% return rate under the current proposal. So if you take the 1,970 touchbacks plus the fair catches,

there were 92 fair catches last year, so now we're over 2,000 plays. If we can get an 80% return rate, 85% return rate, we're going to add another 1,600 plays to the NFL season, which is great for players, coaches, fans, great for everybody. Yeah, and also all kickoffs are potential house calls. So it's not just like a throwaway play. All you need is, and you're trying to coach this out of people, but all you need is one of these.

And then all of a sudden, instead of this, and then we got house calls happening. So the game's getting better from this. The only thing that sucks is you guys are taking fun out of the game. They're taking surprise onside kicks out of the game. You're trying to kill the game, coach.

You're taking surprise onside kicks. I made a living off of these. This was one of the things that like, hey, why do you have Pat on your team? Well, the dipshit's not bad. It's a surprise onside kick. That's what people would actually say. You guys are taking it out of the game, coach.

I remember doing one. Well, we only did four, I think, five my whole eight years. That's a lot, though. We got four in one year. That's a NFL record. Comparison. We tied there. I kicked one of myself.

But I think we only did like five or six over eight years. Well, without that, where's the Hall of Fame nod? four in one year. That's a NFL record. We tied there. I kicked one of myself. But I think we only did five or six over eight years. Without that, where's the Hall of Fame nod? Bingo. I need it. How about that? You're playing for the Saints. Now he's taking it out. The most important play. Ambush. Thomas Morstan.

Take down the banner down there in New Orleans. You guys don't want surprise onside kicks anymore. Thomas Morstead against who? Oh, give me my ring. I was, you know, Peyton Manning and I. But the surprise onside kicks is the big thing that we're losing, right? That's the big conversation piece. And then you start doing math, I guess,

and you guys all realize the same thing I think everybody else did. No question. You know, I think one of the things you've got to look back, and when we changed the kickoff rules in 2018 to under the current umbrella where the setup zone rules changed the kickoff formation rules changed uh no more kickoff running start changed all that we we essentially made it a lot harder to recover a surprise outside kick and i think that the fans would be a little bit surprised by the actual

reality of the situation and how little that play has been used since the kickoff rules were changed in 2018 so for example this past season there was literally two surprise outside kick attempts and and we and the league was 0 for 2 over the course of the last five years, there's been less than four per year. I think of the last 15 surprise outside kick attempts, we're looking at two recoveries. So we're really, you know, again, I understand. I'm in the house of the biggest surprise outside kick in the history of NFL. So believe me, I get it.

I'm in the house of the ambush. But the ambush rules back then, the rules were different. It was a little bit easier to recover the kick. The kickoff formations weren't as tightly officiated as they are now. There was a running start by the kickoff team. All those things. I mean, you have Griff Whalen there recovering your kick for the Colts. You know, Griff had the running start going.

So, again, I get it. It's probably, you know know there's two things that i think when you look at at this current proposal that the things that i keep hearing the most number one we're losing the surprise onside kick okay so we're talking about three or four plays in a year across the league and then the number two you mentioned it before pat the first time i saw the xfl version i hated it also and I know you keep mentioning the XFL, and there's definitely some components of this play that have XFL qualities to it. However, roots, no question. And listen, there was a lot, I'm going to give credit. There was a lot of great things that they

came up with. There was a lot of things that they got right. But on the flip side of that coin, there's a lot of things they got wrong. And we feel like over this last two years, we've studied every kickoff from every league, USFL, ESL, Arena League, NFL, XFL, high school, college. Look, any league that has a kickoff, we've studied it. And we feel this hybrid kickoff is, like I said, a condensed version of what the NFL does now. And so there was five or six, you know, things that the XFL was doing that we have eliminated from the play.

And we feel that have made the play a lot better for the fans, the coaches, the players, really everybody. And like I said, it keeps the foot in the game. It makes the play safer for the players. And it makes the play more exciting for the fans. Hell yeah. I think talking to you a few times about this and also other special teams coordinators around the league who I think everybody's on board, right? Everybody's on board with this.

The special teams coaches walked out of the room in Indianapolis and we're all on the same page. We all feel it was a collaborative effort. Everyone feels like this is going to be great for the game. And the other factor, Pat, is I've talked to many, many guys across the league, the players, guys from the NFLPA, guys from the executive committee, and the players are on board on this thing as well. You know, in the past, you know, last year there was some talk about the fair catch and should we do something.

And quite frankly, we weren't ready back then. We weren't ready to make the massive changes we needed a whole nother year to make sure we did a deep dive we cross every t we dot every i we come up and we have an answer to every situation things like you know penalty enforcement and things like after safety all those situations that could come up on sidekick all those we wanted to make sure that we had an answer to all those questions. And so, like I said, this isn't just me. There's a lot of hands right now in the soup. There's a lot of guys.

There's a lot of great coaches out there across the league that have got some great ideas. And this has been a collaborative effort amongst the coaches, and we feel strongly about this. Again, all the things I've already mentioned, we think could be a really great thing for the league. Hell, yeah, and I hope they pass it. And before we get to when this could potentially start, after safety, we just move everything up?

What is after safety? There's still some discussion. There's a couple different ways to go with it. Number one, you could just move the kicker and leave all the setup zone players where they currently are. You could obviously move all the setup zone. So we're still talking through some of those adjustments on the fly. There's a couple of good things as far as penalty enforcement. But that still needs to be, you know, we've given our recommendations to the league.

We've talked to the competition committee. We've talked to the NFL. And we've given our recommendations. But there's a couple different ways you can go. For simplicity's sake, any carryover penalty that's probably the best initially just to move the kicker. But, again, those things are still in the talks. We want to make sure that – Yeah, it's getting voted on this weekend.

Is that what you've heard? Is that what we're at the next league? And then is this potentially in next year? Is that what is being chatted about? So this is my awareness right now. Currently this will be presented to the coaches, GMs, and owners at the owners' meetings next week in Orlando. This will be presented to them.

The rule change, I believe it will be voted on. I can't get into all the nuts and bolts of how that works, but yes, potentially this could be in for this coming season, the 2024 season. Yes, sir. Hey, let's save the kickoff. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you for coming on and joining us, and hopefully next year we get 1,600 more plays. Yes, sir. Hey, let's save the kickoff. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you for coming on and joining us.

And hopefully next year we get 1,600 more plays. Let's go. Absolutely. And, Pat, and you guys probably don't, some of those guys on the set probably don't know this, but I got to give Pat one compliment. I'm not kissing butt here. I coached against Pat back in the day. I was at Rutgers.

He was at West Virginia. And he was the all the way around guy. Pat, you remember this game. 2006 Big East Championship, he was at West Virginia, and he was the all-the-way-around guy. Pat, you remember this game. 2006 Big East Championship, triple overtime at West Virginia. We were getting the ball back. That was a triple overtime game. You hit one of the best punts that I've ever seen a college punter hit in that game. And I'm sure you remember.

It was a little short roll out to the right, and you painted the sideline at about 65 yards. Thank you. And our punt returner was Tim Brown, and I was excited for Tim to get the ball in that game, but we also got screwed by the refs in that game. Oh, God! We appreciate the hell out of you, Coach. You've been very nice to me throughout my entire career.

I've enjoyed watching you go, too. I've really enjoyed watching you from Rutgers To the Dolphins, now with the Saints And now you're one of the leaders of saving the kickoff You've done good coach I appreciate the hell out of you Appreciate you guys man, thanks so much for having me on Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Darren Rizzi Just a jersey

Coaching at Rutgers too With Shiano man Just like hard nose Hey this is where we play football. I would always have conversations with them. Because I was kicker and punter, you see. So, like, they're watching me do everything. What's my op time on punts?

What's op time on field goal? So, literally, the other special teams coach is just, like, standing next to me for about, I don't know, 20 minutes. So, it's like, well, we're going to talk, I guess. We're going to shoot the shit. I guess we're going to chit-chat here. Those are good times back there in Morgantown. Good times back in Morgantown.

Saving the kickoff, it feels like. Yeah, more returns, more opportunities. As a return, man, you're loving this. Now that I've heard everything and seen how many more balls we're going to have in play, I'm licking my chops. Like, yeah, I'm going to touch this thing at least five, six times a game. Now, there's a chance that coverage is able to smother because the NFL coverage is obviously very good.

And a couple of XFL, I think they broke a couple free. But in the end, I think the returners in the XFL weren't as anywhere near as fast as what guys are going to be in the NFL. This could really, this could break open, there could be some massive returns. Like, if you're able in the neutral zone to set up the NFL, this could really break open. There could be some massive returns. If you're able in the neutral zone to set up some doubles, literally all you need is two guys that are next to each other to just accidentally go the wrong way, and then bang, we're to the kicker.

Kicker's not allowed to go past the 50 is what I was told because I said, sweet, when I first heard this rule, I'm kicking this thing, and I'm running. There's nobody. I'm the only one running running so I'm the only human with full speed now I got 20 some tackles sure okay not everybody's thinking this way or put a safety in there right but all he's got to do is get it down inside to 10 that's all that matters he's running you got a four five guy four four guy they they thought of that so like literally as he was telling me all the rules i was figuring out okay so how am i because that's how special teams coordinators operate

how are we beating the game how are we beating the game that's why they said they needed like a year let's let's take a year here so everybody can think of how they would try to screw over the other team with all these rules because that's how special teams kind of works and it feels like they got it all figured out you heard him talk about giving credit to the xfl rule you know yeah there's xfl roots yes for sure a lot of the nfl guys because the xfl was taking like you know a victory lap because they created this xfl kickoff when xfl was happening sure and all nfl coordinators like this is just a kickoff practice this is a kickoff that's all you're is just a kickoff practice. This is a kickoff practice. You're just doing a kickoff practice rep here.

When we're trying to save people's legs, we move them down the field. This is literally just a drill. A Friday practice. Yeah, this is a kickoff drill that you guys have put in there, which is why my immediate reaction is like, this is the save guy's legs. This is not a real deal. But then you start hearing like, hey, we're in dire needs. We're not at the time of like, well, I don't like that.

Do you have a better idea? Because we need it. Because the way the stats are coming out, whenever plays are actually happening, the amount of, I think, muscles and heads they're saying, it's like, we need to figure this out. They seemingly have threaded the needle. Congrats to them.

And you'll never hear one rule that every special teams coordinator agrees on. Never. You'll never hear one. Even like lining up on sides. There will be some special teams coordinator that's like, I think that's kind of bullshit. We should be able to have a guy that's able to do this. So for them to all be on board,

this is the first time the NFL has ever had that. NFL PA's on board. Feels like this is one that's going to be an easy pass at the under meeting this weekend. And I feel like the cool part is, to your point about setting up the returns, this is an advantage for special teams coaches that can figure out how to set up a good return. We always talk about great OCs and great DCs. There's never a conversation about great special teams coordinators,

and this feels like a perfect example. Harbaugh, right? Yeah, yeah. Joe Judge. Yeah, sure. Hey, coaches. Yeah, but that Joe Judge? Yeah, sure. So, you know. Head coaches. Yeah, but that's the only time they ever get.

Tobe? Bones? Yeah, Bones. Danny Smith. Tom McMahon? Rich Passaccia. Rich Passaccia. Like, there are some guys, but you're right.

It'll be on display. Never like coordinating. There's no Kellen Moore of special teams coordinating that's never been a head coach that everyone knows who he is. Yeah, like Bubba. Bubba's going to do well with this. this like the the creative good coaches darren because you're it's a lot of space in there if you think about that's a lot of space i wonder what happened if someone jumped outside would they take you just go back five yeah but or do you want it the other way like if you're the return team do you want that kicker closer because then he might kick it into the end zone you get at the 40 yeah but that's a good question and i wonder if they're not moving the neutral zone exactly do you move

the neutral zone back up but because if you move it up it's hard it's 25 yards for the kicker into the end zone are you saying that the five yard line is now the end zone no i'm talking about moving the not the landing zone you're talking about the neutral zone right oh yeah yeah my question is do you move the kicker, though? Like, say if they get a flag for offsides, do the kicker come up five or do we go back five? Or do we move the whole line back five? Yeah, does everything move five? Something and everything should move.

But then that gives the kicker 25 yards. Kind of what he talked about. No, no, not the landings. Landing zone still stays. Which is easier for the kicker, though, right? Because there's more room because you're kicking it further? No, I'm saying the landing zone stays 0-20. Yes.

But because the kicker's going back five yards, doesn't that give him more room to kind of put more under it? No, there's some. That won't get there. Especially like December and some of these. And I think what this is going to do, a ripple effect, is this is a lot more of the weak-legged kickers, who are great field goal kickers,

who kind of have been knocked for like, this guy can't kick off, though. If we need a touchback, this guy's not going to be able to do it. Pooch kick it. Exactly. Now it's like they're going to get a little bit of an opportunity. But could you imagine December, January, we got one of those super windy games.

Yeah, exactly. And somebody kicks off, and it doesn't make it to the 20, and then all of a sudden they got the ball at the 40, and they're down two or whatever with a minute 20 left. It's like the moments are going to be gigantic and that is going to be a heartbreaker for fans that our kicker can't make it to the landing zone.

We can't make it to a 20-yard buffer in this entire, that's going to happen. Especially he was talking about now like they're still talking through it, but say someone gets a 15-yard penalty after the touchdown and normally, you know, you just move the whole kickoff team back 15 yards and you do the situation. Are you moving the kicker back 15 yards

and then he's not making it to the landing zone? If he's not making the landing zone, that 15-yard penalty that you got on your touchdown now gives the other team the ball at the 40 to start the next drive. The ball at the 40, if you were to look at the stats, and I don't think... One first down. One first down, you're in points with some kickers,

but the percentage of times you score whenever your drive starts at the 40 is probably like 75%. The percentage of drives, percentage of scoring drives that start in like your own 10 is like 5%, 6%. So that's why kickers, punters, and special teamers, field position is what you're being paid for. Field position. Because in a long game, how many first downs do they have to get before they punt?

If you're able to flip the field, that's a big deal. If you're able to pin them inside the 20, I think the percentages and these are just, you get it. It's like 15, 20.

It's a very, it's a very different ball game whenever you're starting at the 40, your own 40 versus whenever you're backed up in the 20. So it's like,

there's a lot of setups here. If you accidentally shank one, you know, you used to be able to like steal because like i hit one fat and it like rolls and you steal a fur uh steal a touchback or whatever if it lands at like the 21 that ball is on the 40. that is well to your point about the wind like weak-legged kickers like what if there's a massive win at the back and buckker goes out there and he's dropping yeah he's swinging a quarter but because it's bucker that ball's going to the standstill that's a whole nother ball game i'm

very happy that this is not for me i only had one pitch and i was coming out fast fastball we were doing an onside kick or i was coming fastball as far as i possibly can and because we did so many onside kicks they put hands team team against us. We were kind of one of the first teams that had to stare down what is now basically hands team on the field at all times. And it's like I used to be able to steal touchbacks because they have no setup for return. So like teams deciding not to return with these new rules, with the hands team rules, it's also because it's impossible to get back and set up a return. So, yeah, we will fair catch. Why? Because we don't have guys running four fours that can get back and set up a return. So, yeah, we will fair catch. Why? Because we don't have guys running four-fours that can get back

and set up a return. We might as well just take the fair catch. Now it's like forcing teams. Like, hey, you have to return. Yeah. That ball's landing in the landing zone. You have to return. Have to.

I think fair catch gets where you fair catch it at. It's not like it comes out. So I think it's like now we're dancing. Yeah. Now there's no – Don to be too many fair catches. How about end of the game? 15 seconds left. You just took the lead.

Well, I wouldn't fair catch at 35. No, I'm saying it was kickoff. You can't. I mean, that has to be the perfect. You got to pooch kick it. It got to be a good kick. You got to kick it in between the 20s. Yeah, but then you could just bash that thing to an actual touchback.

Ball comes out to the 35. Now, do they run the clock at all? Hey, defense, need you 10 seconds. Okay, not allow them to get in there. It's like those end-of-game squibs that take place, trying to eat up time. That's now ball at 40, dead ball. You don't want to do that. No time off the clock.

Ooh. Ooh. Hey, hey, hey. That's a whole different game. There's some real stuff that could really come into play because all the game management shit that people talk about, this guy took a timeout, this guy went for it. They all end with a special teams play.

Not all of them, but most of them end with a special teams play. Like a field goal, we're choosing the punt, we're not choosing the punt. How about the kickoff? Are we choosing to give it up? It's like special teams, even though the game management happens here, is normally the end of the road. And it gets affected. And it's like with this one, I think we're going to –

I don't even know if they've projected out all the shit that could potentially take place or decisions that are going to have to be made. And if you miss hit a ball and put somebody on the 40, I mean, that's a game changer. You're going to get killed. 15 seconds, you swim, kick it. That's eight seconds, probably seven seconds left on the clock. Now?

That's it. No time. Now? 15 seconds, still on the clock. You got the ball at the 40. Yeah. Oh, my. There's like no easy way out almost for a couple of days.

This is a big deal. This is changing the game. And I'm very happy that, you know, Coach Riz came on and was like, here's what we're laying out because he wants to – not that the world listens to this show, although it feels like that. But our numbers aren't good okay anyways would like people to know what they're pitching so like hey whenever you hear this because some roles that get pitched like some of it just like kind of leak out and it's the natural reaction for everybody's that's stupid that sounds stupid

but now i think then the fact that we have the voice of the person who, I don't know if he was elected to do this or took it upon himself to be like, hey, we got to do this or how it all worked out. But he's like, hey, here's what special teams coordinators put together in its entirety. You guys feel however you want about it. They're voting on it this weekend. This is what we're hoping is the case. And if it's not, we tried our, like, hey, we tried our absolute best. And I think these special teams coordinators, they're sticking up for their positions too. Their jobs, future jobs. The people that came before them, it's like, hey,

if they start taking this out, what? Punt? What's going to happen with punt? What happens with special teams? It's like they had to come together and save it. It's good. I hope it happens. Yeah, it'll take time for people to get used to,

and there's a lot of intricacies. I just thought in my head, what if it lands before the landing zone is it a dead ball yeah okay no time dead ball dead ball like so if it lands before and then rolls in but the or the return team doesn't pick it up because the downing thing he said everything has to be down like if it's if it's kicked and lands in the end zone and that team forgets to down it is that a live ball definitely sound like he said yeah he said live ball. He said every ball. There's going to be players who have been returning for the last five years or whatever with their heels on the end zone and just let it

fly over their head all the time and don't worry about it. A lot of the time, that ball stays in the end zone. I thought that was dumb that they did that. That was the most Mickey Mouse thing that I've seen because every special team's practice forever was like, hey, if this thing's in the end zone, we got a lot of ball here. Yeah, yeah.

And like, hey, this returner. Yeah. Never Pac-Man because Pac-Man, all pro returner. But, hey, this is like kind of a lazy returner. Like this guy could potentially let a ball just sit behind him. Or they think it's rolling out of the back of the end zone. And it stops. It's like, and they are not paying attention.

It's like, we can steal one. And they're like, nah, take that out of the game. If it touches the paint, touch back. Done. We get it. Put the ball at the 25. Well, what if they don't want to return? They call a fair cut. Put it at the 25. We need no injuries. And then the next

year, we had 2,000 plays that were nothing. Well, you guys were the ones that put in all these rules. Give us something better. Give us something better. And that's what they had to do. So good luck out there. And like even the wind, like just thinking about the wind situation, like what happens if the ball's coming off the tee?

Like does one of the 10 up at the 40? That was tweeted. That was actually just tweeted out by Florio. They're going to use the kick and sticks. Okay, smart. That's not bad. Sticks are on the field now. Oh, boy, yeah.

What happens if someone trips over the sticks? Running one back? There will be a dog who runs out and gets it. That's what I'm saying. Whoever's getting a tee should just have to hold the ball. Oh, that'd be so cool for that kid. Are you kidding me? It's not a kid. They do the kid before the game starts and put it on video.

No, they should make it a kid. They should pick someone from the stands. The other team could pick a fan from the opposing family. That's changing football. This rule is changing football pretty dramatically. Big time. It'll be interesting to see where this winds up because he said, you know, like we're going to need like a few years to kind of see

how this thing goes because like this is inevitably going to drastically affect the outcome of games, especially like early in the season next year where, like Diggs was saying, like teams, you know, like you just have that muscle memory of of doing something one way the entire time and you just forget. There will definitely be a couple teams who probably lose games or put themselves in very precarious positions because of something that comes from the kickoff.

I'm excited to see how it plays out if they vote it through. They're definitely going to vote it through, I think. $31 billion. For them to make it up this quick, they already got in their head that it's got to change. The NFL did post it. As soon as we said,

I'm sure they were planning on doing it on this particular day at this exact time, but as soon as my big dumb mouth said, we got special teams coordinator that basically drew up the entire rule joining us for what's going to be pitched the NFL conveniently. And I assume they had this already planned. We are not narcissistic enough to think that we potentially change them. But they did drop immediately afterwards, seemingly.

Here's the rule that is being presented. And it's in an NFL graphic. So that means the NFL has invested in piecing it together as well. So there is a chance that they've already been briefed on all this, and there is a sentiment that it's going to get passed, which is why he probably feels like, hey, I can come on and pitch this entire thing. There was a full one sheet that also came out while he was on of all the

trying to explain all the rules on one sheet, which is hard to do. But it wasn't bad. Yeah, so I think there's a chance it gets passed. I love it. Bring more money for the returns. It's a big part of the game. And field position is going to be crucial when it comes to this part of it. And also teamers.

Yeah. Like Slater. Yep. Bethel had a hell of a run. Colt Anderson is now the special teams coordinator for the Tennessee Titans. Hayward Bay, who basically turned his career around. He became a special teamer. I had a few on my squad uh that were just

awesome like such cool dudes that you would never met you know if it wasn't for special teams happening and they would have a vastly different life if it wasn't for special teams happening it's like how the senses yes there's a couple guys that if they were not playing special teams football i genuinely do not know what their lives would have become genuinely we had a couple guys that if they were not playing special teams football, I genuinely do not know what their lives would have become. Genuinely. We had a couple dudes that were just like, had no idea that football was on the field. That was awesome.

Hey, what's the return? This guy does not know. Why does he not know? Because he's got 34. That is it. That's what he knows. All he's got is that guy needs to not make this play. And if he doesn't make the play,

this guy's going to get paid for another week. And if he does make the play, this guy's going back to whatever. He will. Whatever is the other option. Special teams is good for football. Special teams is good for football players. And hopefully the kickoff will become one of the most electrifying plays in football yet again because that's what it truly is. If you understand it, every single play could be a house call.

That is the real deal. I mean, ask Adam Thielen what special teams means. We know him as wide receiver stud Adam Thielen, but he started on teams and now he is who he is. So many Hall of Fame careers started covering kicks. I mean, Robert Mathis was a kickoff coverage guy. Now he's going to go to the Hall of Fame. AQ on kick return.

He was the king of the wedge. That was back whenever they were like, yes, wedge, and people are going to be running 50 yards right at your face. And AQ was like, perfect. Our show's ending. It's been dumb. We do apologize for that. Tomorrow we'll try to be better.

We'll continue on YouTube and ESPN+, and we can't thank you enough for allowing us to be a part of your day. Have an incredible evening. Two more playing games tonight. Who's going to make the dance? We'll cover it tomorrow. Goodbye. That was real. Big time.

Tomorrow is going to be sweet. I think we forget how awesome that first day of March. It's so good. Very alive. It's so good. We got a TV right there. We're just gambling on all the games. Big one. Just rooting for good. And we got a TV right there. Yeah, we're just gambling on all the games. Big one. Just rooting for dogs.

How about when we interview people while those games are happening? Yeah. We don't mean to be disrespectful. No. But somebody was given one of the best answers we've ever got, and I just watched a – Was it Poyer? Oh, yeah. Might have been Poyer.

It was Poyer. Might have been Poyer giving a great – in West Virginia. Yeah, loses on it. And while he's talking, giving an answer on the TV, full heartbreak. And then he ends his answer. So we have to cut back to a two-screen. And literally, I'm just, that's right. That's right, Jordan.

Western and women's teams are going to run. Just like Fairfield. Fairfield women are going to get it done. Hey, did you see old Dr. Mr. Richard? I did not. Somebody tweeted and said, hey, we got you. Oh, no way. All right, that's fantastic.

Athletic director maybe at Fairfield or something like that? Whoa. Yeah, check your mentions, dude. Yeah, I stay out of them just because, you know. That's smart. Very smart. Get you on the bench. I mean, I don't know if I want to be on the bench.

I want to get some merch like a fool. I want to get rowdy. Benches right now are hot? You know, the, what's the term? The IWC. Yeah. It's a persistent bunch, my friend. They never sleep.

No, they don't. They never sleep. You guys aren't talking about the internet wrestling community? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What are they saying? Let's just say that they're not thrilled that Conor and I are going to be in WWE 2K24. Yeah. Yeah. What are they saying? Let's just say that they're not thrilled that Conor and I are going to be in WWE 2K24.

Yeah. Michael Cole saying he's not a playable character, which he is, did not help our case either. Good photo by Michael Cole. Good tweet here by Michael Cole. Yeah. As this tweet was being sent out, I got real excited. I'm like, yes. He caught me in a bad time, too.

He just said, hey, look up. Yeah, look at your wolf on your, kind of lost your nose. Exactly. I would have fixed the shirt. I would like, yes. He caught me in a bad time, too. He just said, hey, look up. Yeah, look at your wolf on your... Kind of lost your nose. Exactly. I would have fixed the shirt. I would have fixed the pants. There's a chance that seat in the back was William Regal's. Whoa. And a chance. Not 100% sure. There's a chance.

And as soon as we walked into this room, me and William Regal were chain wrestling in front of that TV right there. And by chain wrestling, I mean lock up. Yep. Him toss me into different things. My neck's broken. Okay, come back.

Let's try this again. Lock up. Oh, chicken wing. Okay. All right. See how I got here? No. I honestly don't know how.

Come on. Come on. Stick with me. Stick with me. Boom. Full Nelson. Yeah. Okay.

All right. I got a full Nelson. What the hell's going on? You see how I did? That's what we need to. I didn't see it, actually. Let me do Okay. All right. I got a full Nelson. What the hell is going on? You see how I did? That's what you need to. I didn't see it, actually. Let me do it one more time. No, no, no.

I won't do that one. Boom, bang, boom. Oh, wrist. Wrist is worse. Worst one. Yeah. Then I sit down, and my call's like, I need to tweet something. And it brought me right back to life.

So it was a great time in that room. Oh, fantastic. Yeah. William Regal is one of one. He's awesome. He is a great time in that room. Oh, fantastic. Yeah. William Regal is one of one. He's awesome. He is a specimen. The creator of War Games? Yeah.

War Games has been around a long time. Long, long time. Old school wrestling. In my mind. I believe Dusty Rhodes was in a couple. In my mind. But yes, he is the announcer of War Games on NXT is what he, you know, the memes and the gifs and everything of him.

But he's legendary. Squared circle worker. Oh, yeah. worker oh yeah that's a sweet tactician yeah every time we get to talk to him I love it oh it's awesome just listen to him talk yeah he's got an accent too this started NXT I literally just go up to him every time I saw him what's going on man he's probably a little bit why is this guy come and talk to me and then uh he had a tick tock go viral so that would be my next thing i brought up to him like oh there's the tick tock story he goes i'm over he's awesome well and uh william regal was awesome mr don't mind if i do introduce you to him didn't he was that when that whole thing started listen just because he's english doesn't mean that's what it takes to

introduce danny birch you're talking about? Yeah, that's just my assumption. It takes an Englishman to help you with an Englishman. You guys have been in the wrestling world for a long time. That's the whole thing. When people get mad about me being somewhere, it's like, I know that I did not pay my dues anywhere near as much as everybody else.

I very much understand. Wish I had the opportunity to. Going back, it all worked out for me, but that wasn't going to be what I did if it didn't work out with this right leg here. But it's like, I feel like I was with NXT for a long time doing those pre-shows and then doing some of the talking head stuff and social media stuff down at the content creation lab. We were down there.

I mean, we almost moved our show down there at one point. So we've been in. We were down there. We almost moved our show down there at one point. We did. We went down there for six months in a row every single Friday. I feel like a lot of the internet wrestling community whenever I get dropped back into something, why is this guy here? This guy sucks.

I hate to admit this. I hate to tell you this. We've been with the WWE people more than half a decade. Like, coming up on almost a decade. Yeah, a long time. Long time. Go watch the MetLife mishap.

Okay. Plus a 60 grand inside of a wrestling ring. That RV was supposed to be on the Mania pre-show. Yes, on the set. And what happened? Me and Zito. Those damn yellow shirts. The damn holes in the roof.

We're past it now, Z. We know. You fucked that one up. Where were the yellow shirts when the cops showed up? They all just disappeared? I understand the aftermath. Maybe there were some mistakes that were made, but after watching the film back at this stage of life,

we can all agree. Z, we're not getting in a car when you're driving much. I think you can agree. I will never agree. The biggest bummer. Deny until you die, brother. The biggest bummer from the video is just never being able to know what Zeke was about to say right before

it crashed because he was about to say something. For those that don't know, we rented an RV. It was the road to WrestleMania. We drove, I think we did a Raw, SmackDown, and then we were at WrestleMania. A house show was in there, too. A house show. Harrisburg.

Harrisburg, excuse me. Harrisburg house show. I thought it was Hershey. Maybe Hershey. It was Hershey. Hershey, Pennsylvania. Oh, yeah, because the Applebee's at Hershey's. Bingo.

Yeah, Connor got the bottom of the bag of nachos. So we did the road to WrestleMania, which is what we're called on. We got an RV. We rented from this sweet old lady. Oh, my God. That old lady. She did not want to rent us the thing, but it was just part of it. She was sweet talker a little bit.

She was so nice. Please, just don't make it too messy in there, because I got another rental next week taking out the same vehicle. And we made it all the way to WrestleMania in the morning of WrestleMania. Zito zigged when these yellow shirts told him to zag. And what he did was... No, no, they told me to zag. Yeah, of course. Of course they

did. Zito goes down this way and... Yeah, right there. What's also never told... He's got the entire top of the RV ripped off. He drove by that awning two times. Right there. Earlier that day. Two times.

Can we go back to that? Ripped the top of that thing off like a can opener. Kept going in. He just keeps going all the way in. Kept going, we can make it. All the way in. We can make it. And then, hold on.

Wait a second. We've come too far. Rips that thing in reverse. No, we don't. Yes. So everything that just got folded up one way, now we're taking it back the other way. Yeah. Rips the entire top.

What's going on? The fuck? Yeah, so that's what happened in 2019 at WrestleMania. God, man. I still have nightmares about the noises. Yes. Also, no clearance signs at all. Well, you didn't know your clearance anyways.

13.6. Were your eyes open? They were open with the yellow shirts. I mean, Nick was sitting. What people also don't know is that. You guys almost died at WrestleMania. Legit. Five years ago.

For real. Did you drive it all the way back? Yeah. In the rain. We the way back? In the rain. We had to get out of New York City in the rain at 1230 at night and we had to drive until we got out of the rainstorm. It was basically until we got to

Pennsylvania. We had to drive through New Jersey with bags. We parked in a Walmart. Yeah, parked in a Walmart. Slept. That's why whenever people say, you know, this business hasn't been through enough hard times. Have you ever died in an RV? Have you ever died? Because I have.

You have no idea. This thing's built on marble. We've been there, done that with way too many things for only being a company that has existed for eight years. But a lot of it, some of it has come from our relationship with WWE. Absolutely. No doubt about it. The amount of stuff we've learned from them,

the amount of events we've been at, the amount of people we've talked to. So I think a lot of the people I know are pumped that you guys are in there. But the internet wrestling community is just not. Waste of a pack! Yeah. To be clear if you guys were going to be taking anybody's spots

would not have agreed but for some reason they feel as if you guys are taking Cody Rhodes' spot you're not no we're stopping them from finishing the story I believe Ricochet is in the game It is an extensive roster Yeah

I mean good news for the NFL Yeah but what about the NXT Next generation That's not in it That's not ours I'm not a developer of the game If Ty and Connor, the toxic table, whose finisher is the T2?

Go to it. The T2. Everybody that you're mad about not being in, still not in. And that sucks. Yeah. We're not happy about it either. No, it's bullshit.

We want them to be in there. Yeah. Bad. Over our spots. Yeah. And if we're not 88 overall, guess what? We're pulling ourselves out of the game anyways. Yeah. If I'm on 6'3",

240 with a 99 high fire rating, I don't want it. I'm excited for the highlights to come out because I've seen a lot of the IWC, what they're saying they're going to do to those two. Those two are jobbers in their mind. Yeah, that's going to be sweet too. Yeah. When you fight fire with fire, guess what?

I'm going to be holding that fucking title belled up. So is this guy. We're going to be dripped in gold. We're never going to relinquish it. What are they going to do when the screenshots come out of me and Ty beating Roman and Cody Rhodes as a tag team? What's going to happen then?

What are they going to say about us then? We'll see. They're going to have to say this. They're going to have to acknowledge the toxic team. Goddamn right. They have been pretty mean to you guys. Air-Guy Russell can be pretty good. Understandable. You know, like you

played in the NFL and wrestled. AJ played in the NFL. Darius played in the NFL. Me and Ty, we you know, lost in the final of our intramural basketball leagues in college. It's kind of where our... Yeah, but the work you guys have put in in the ring is going to come on display. Also, got the proof of that. No one has ever put more time and effort

into the creation of those characters in any of those games than we did. I can guarantee that. You guys are more invested than anybody. For sure. That is a five minute, okay, sounds good. We sat with them for an hour and went over every painstaking detail. I'm 6'3". I'm 240. You're right in front of us. You're not that.

I don't have my boots on. Next question. The big show was billed at 7'5". I've seen him sitting at a hotel bar. He ain't 7'5". You're right. He's 7'5". You're right. He's 7'6". They did get some things wrong. Maybe at that time.

Exactly. Not to mention the names of our moves, the looks, what we do when we're walking out, the things in the stands for our matches. I mean, come on. We're not just schlubs just wanting to be in the game. You're not wasting the opportunity. No, not at all. Lucky to be there.

Absolutely. Thankful to be there. Absolutely. Universe Ball. The IWC is going to be excited you guys are in it once to be there. Absolutely. Thankful to be there. Absolutely. Universe Ball. The IWC is going to be excited you guys are in it once they see you. Okay. Come back. Come back.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Shit. Damn. That's a shame. I thought we really had an opportunity. Yeah.

Yeah, that is a bummer. All right. Let's get to a break. We'll be back on the other side for hour three. Hour three is going to be a good one. Oh, yeah. Might even dabble with baseball, depending upon what happened. Baseball is on this morning?

Yeah. Yep. In Seoul. Was that you that made the first one? No, it wasn't me. But do you agree? Yeah. Okay.

Morning baseball might be, they should maybe do that. Cup of Joe. Baseball, it's a good start to the day. Yeah. You just can't hate every sport come on it's just baseball actually soccer i like soccer i like soccer and baseball might be coming together for something at some point i mean it's out oh yeah you're right but baseball uh gonna spend a solid week using every member on the roster to beat the absolute dog shit out of boston connor

that's awesome though see, respect to that guy. So that would mean he's going to be A.J. and Darius. Yeah. Are we getting people to play the game? You're welcome. Feels like it. You're welcome. Boys!

Are happening in a big way. As you saw in the zoom in from the outside, looking into the stage here in the Thunderdome, we have eyes on Caleb Williams' pro day that is currently taking place in Southern California. Ibra Floos is there. Poles is there. Keenan Allen, the newest member of the Chicago Bears, is there.

Obviously, former Los Angeles Charger. We assume he has a house in the area. We just watched four to five straight completions. No balls on the ground. Michael L watched four to five straight completions. No balls on the ground. Michael Lombardi set the over-under at three for balls on the ground in this entire thing. We assume, as Jerry Rice's kid just walked by the camera, that's a pretty good person to maybe throw into. We assume this day is only going to up the stock of Caleb Williams, the NFL player, because

that's what every pro day has done for the last five years straight. Talks to tables here at Boston Corner. that's how Schmidt won after the hammer. Cowboys tone digs is here. 14 year corner in the NFL. A man who's a universal record signed rapper. Pac-Man Jones is here. We're just watching workouts and obviously everything's been completed. He's thrown a couple of deep balls.

They got to zoom in on his feet here, which seem to be technically signed. What are you seeing from Caleb Williams, Pac-Man? The deep ball looked really good. It don't look as tight as it should be on some of the throws, if you ask me. Yeah, but Peyton Manning threw a lot of wobblers. There hasn't been as, you know, C.J. Stroud, which is what everybody's going to compare this to. Yep, that's who we're looking for here.

Until forever. Yeah. Until the next best rookie season of all time by a quarterback. We're going to be comparing everybody to what C.J. Stroud does. And we're not saying these balls have looked bad, but it's just a different ball flight a little bit. You know, it's a little bit of a different ball flight. He seemingly has handled the pressure of the situation better than, you know,

somebody who shouldn't be the number one overall pick for the last three years is what's been said about Caleb Williams. It's a big day for him, Connor. What are your thoughts as just basic Stooges? Yeah, pretty awesome. Basic Stooges thoughts, I mean for me as a Patriots fan because the Patriots are on the ground. That's not good. That's one.

That's number three. That's third one. Already? Wait a minute. Might not be. Oh, well, he's. Allegedly what people say now about these pro days with quarterbacks is they and the wide receivers have gone through this four or five times already. Yeah, that's the thing to look for, right? Some of these wide receivers since Caleb's just automatically.

What are you saying, Pat? I'm just saying. Pat, why'd you just turn your head like that? Well, he didn't want another ball on the ground, so he, you know. He just threw a duckly up there. A what? The first one was a bomb. I'm just saying. Pack, why'd you just turn your head like that? Well, he didn't want another ball on the ground, so he, you know, he made sure that was caught. He just threw a duckly up there. A what? The first one was a bum.

Then he like, ah, I overthrew that one. Then he just underthrew this one. Is this our first time watching him throw an NFL ball? Oh, yeah. It's a lot bigger. Duke is much bigger than a college ball. That's a dime. That's a ball.

That was a dot. Absolute dime. No, Pac-Man? I'm just saying. On time? I mean, you pac-man i'm just saying on time i mean you play db i'm just saying he's got a little little back hates quarterback though because he's playing db yeah just a little float on it just a little bit a little float on it you're saying just a little bit see this is how db's in secondaries actually talk about nfl quarterbacks when they're watching film hey we can maybe get one on this guy who has a little bit of float on the ball, but we're not there. We cannot...

What a spiral. That was magical. Bears got a good one. Z, things are going good, Bob. That was a good ball! Z, I think things are going good. They showed Dan Quinn earlier. He did have his hat on backwards. That's big news. Florida Dan

was in Dallas. Now he's taking it to Washington. Cliff was with him as well. Okay, this is fascinating because who's this guy right here? Is that Palmer? No, that's a little different jawline. Probably whoever his quarterback is. Well, it's been a couple years since we've seen him. I've seen him in the background of –

Aaron? Yeah, it was – no, somebody else was working. Maybe J.J. McCarthy? Oh, okay. He was doing – Oh, a seam ball. That somebody else was working. Maybe J.J. McCarthy? Oh, okay. He was doing... Oh, a seam ball. That was a good ball. I saw him.

He was... D.K. Metcalf caught the game winner of a seven-on-seven tournament, and Bryce Young threw him the ball. Oh, yeah, down the left side. Yeah, yeah. D.K. went up. Bryce Young was probably like, man, it'd be nice to have a D.K.

Tradeaway D.J. last year for him. So that guy in the hat, he's running this thing with the white shirt. Is it maybe the USC coach? That's a good ball. Is it Lincoln? No, the OC or quarterback coach for USC. I don't know. That's interesting because does Caleb have a quarterback coach,

like his own quarterback guru? Yeah. I haven't heard of him. Me neither. Because that's the whole game now is like the quarterback guru. The summit? The quarterback summit is Palmer's. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, me neither. Because that's the whole game now is like the quarterback guru. The summit? The quarterback summit is Palmer's.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Then there is also – Delfer had one with – but that was just with Tua. There's one in Florida too. There's one in Arizona. There's like four different places that like train these guys. Yeah, and who's this guy in the white cap? Oh, that's a DN. Yeah, it's a DN.

That's good pressure. Get him out of the pocket. Beautiful ball. Pro days. That's good pressure. Get him out of the pocket. Beautiful ball. Pro days are the best, man. I love this shit so much. There's nothing bad that can happen to Caleb Williams today. Every single pass, yep, touchdown.

Yep, unbelievable. Except for that three, I guess, that we're on. We got a little wheel route here. We're on a little wheel. Let's see the play spin on this. Is it in front or is it on the back hip? Is this a three-yard gain or a 15-yard gain? There's Lincoln. Next to Poles.

In the back left there. Oh, that's good. Wasn't a wheel. Good for this guy, though. Good stride. Knees. Little angle route. Knee drive. Yeah, who are all the people? Throw the comeback opposite high-ash. That guy's got a Broncos polo on.

Running a workout? Ooh, wow. Look at him. That's a touchdown. Why is he jogging? What? Yeah, I'm with you, Connor. Why are the receivers jogging?

Why aren't they running full speed? Maybe that's this portion. They run casual. Wouldn't it? That doesn't make any sense. They have a casual run. Who is that guy? What's that hat say on the handsome white there?

Ball. He's a tall son of a bitch. He is. You know, I don't know if having a 6'9 guy next to you makes a right play whenever they're asking about his size. I agree. That guy should be taking a knee. Yeah, he should.

The guy with the power range. Look at the cameraman. What a weapon right there behind. He measured 6'1 today, I think. 6'1? 6'1's good. 6'1's just fine. Yeah.

How tall is Stroud? 6'4. Who? No. Stroud? 6'4? 6'5 with cleats on. He's a big boy.

Hey, CJ Stroud is. I remember him in person He's 6'3, 6'3 6'3, 6'4 Here we go, put it in front of him That's not a bad boy Put it on him Why are you even doing this?

It's such a waste of time We're watching him go through it Marvin Harrison Jr. said I'm not doing anything at the Ohio State workout today. So we thank Caleb Williams for at least throwing a football here today. You're right. I agree with that. But, I mean, look.

We got Poles and Eberflues playing grab ass back there just laughing. What is that? What is that? Oh, no. It's a good ball. You said it was a good ball. No, no. I just asked what is that.

That's what I asked. That was late right there, wasn't it? Maybe. Wasn't it late? What if he hasn't gotten a haircut? We should not be judging this. No, of course not. We should not be judging this the way we are.

But every single throw I'm looking at going. What are we supposed to do? Wait a minute. I mean, he's minus 3,500 to go one overall. So he's going no matter what. Now we just get to pick apart. Now we just get to pick apart. Routes on air. Yeah. I'm looking get to pick apart routes on air.

I'm looking at minus 5,000 right now. We'll see if it changes. Keep an eye on that guy with the hat on the center. Hey! Who's the buddy with great fade behind the center? He put somebody in motion, though. I like that. Oh, man. That was gorgeous. He found a good passing lane there. He's just dicking around.

Who's dicking around? Caleb is. He's just dicking around. He's not dicking around. He's just dicking around. Who's dicking around? Caleb is. He's just dicking around. I will say he was. He's not dicking around. Wide receivers are dicking around. He was warming up lefty, by the way. He's warming up lefty. Yeah, that might be a part of his warm-up.

How big are his hands? Did they measure those? Huge. Did they measure those with his height? Five, seven-eighths. Let me look. I think it was. I think it might be right.

That is a very casual get-up. Not a lot of swag on Caleb Williams' get fit right now. Just loves ball. That's now. Just loves ball. That's all. Just loves ball. God just loves ball. Here we go. Oh, we're taking a deep shot.

Here we go. Oh! Great catch. In a bucket. That kid's a patriot. In a bucket. Casual, too. That was just another Wednesday.

That was just another Wednesday for Caleb Williams. Slow ball. Can we FaceTime Louis Riddick? Yeah, 9.75 is inches for hands. It's a good hand. Yeah, he can play in the cold if he has to. NFC North is going to be playing a little bit of cold football. Yeah, you can tell me.

I like that. I want that Take Me to the King sweatshirt. Are they making audibles right now on it? Yeah, I need you to go to the left. You go to the right. You're on a little bit of a slant there. Who's the big tall one? Who is this guy?

Who's the big tall one? There's this guy? Who's the big tall one? There's got to be his name somewhere. How come everybody in the back is having a good time not paying attention to the show right now? Isn't that why we're all here? That's what I think. Poles is locked in. Yeah, Poles is locked in. Play action.

This is an important one. It's a big one. Oh, boy. Pack. Don't be looking at me like that. You think Poles has the same getup a la... That Dolphins guy is the coolest guy on the field. Anyways, sorry about it.

I only see Poles in the jacket-sweatshirt combo. You think he just puts that on every single morning? He's just got a bunch of polo. It's all one piece, actually. Yeah, it's just one. I haven't seen him. Where is he? He's back. Once they do this shot, he's one piece, actually. I haven't seen him. Where is he? Once they do this shot, he's to the left.

He's right to the left of that guy. Who's the dude with the faux hawk running this thing? Let's go ball. Let's go ball. That was a C. They're not poles, right? Eberflew's there in the top left, right?

Yeah. That's over by where poles is. I didn't know we were wearing white long-sleeved shirts this year. Poles look so cool. With shades on? Poles look cool there. That's a good ball, by the way. That was a very good ball right there. Going to be doing a lot of that to Swift.

That's a good ball. Who's this guy? We're the Patriots coaches. What's that? The Crafts don't want him at least. No, no, believe me. The Crafts, who knows? But AVP and the wide receivers and quarterback coach are there.

Brendan Rice's son is what year? Going to the draft. He's going, though. What year is he going to get drafted? Or when's he going to get drafted? I'm sorry. What round is he going to get drafted? I think he's like a second, third rounder.

Yeah, Patriots top of the second round. I've seen that projection. Because Quinn Ewer is throwing today at Texas, not draft eligible. He's throwing to AD and Xavier Worthy who ran a 4-2-1 at the NFL Combine. Today, if Xavier Worthy has a day,

it could really... It could help him. Oh, deep shot down the middle. That thing's turning like a punt. That's a good ball. Good ball. Threw it out of the stadium. Good ball.

Got through it out of the practice field. How was that? That was the last one. Do we get a round off back handspring? Is he going to punt a ball? Is he going to punt a ball? Set. Yep.

We love it. Show it. Did it turn over? Was it nicer than the throw? Come on, cameraman. That's it? Or lady? Looks like he liked it. Hey, I like it. Did it turn over? Was it nicer than the throw? Come on, cameraman. That's it? Or lady? Looks like he liked it.

Hey, I like it. Okay. Hey, good workout, Caleb. We're nitpicking on whether or not you put a ball here. Yep. Yeah. Right here in the middle of a workout on a Thursday in the afternoon in Southern California with no pads on and nobody but scouts and media and documentary cameras probably all over the place.

Congrats to Caleb seemingly having a day that isn't going to change anybody's thoughts about him being the more overall pick. Nope. Now he's going to have a bunch of meetings and in-person visits and everything like that. Just gave a shout-out to his family. Hey, family, how we doing? Love you.

Thankful to one of our fans who's listening, at BearDonNow77, and I checked this source. family. How we doing? Love you. Thankful to one of our fans who's listening. At Bear Don now 7-7. And I checked this source. Caleb Williams is working with Denny Thompson who I believe we had on last year because he was training Anthony Richardson. So he was the one rushing the pass then. Right? Isn't he kind of a shorter? Yeah, because he

wasn't that tall guy. Yeah, so he might have been the one that was rushing. There's Lincoln Riley. Good dap up. Uh-oh. Didn't shake Fluss's hand. Fluss in the back. There's Dap up. Pulse. Okay, there we go.

Good with Fluss. That was a good, clean dap up with him. Hey, what's going on? Listen to everybody else. All right, we're going to try to FaceTime Louis Riddick, who's boots on the ground for this. What's everybody's thoughts and expectations as we are watching along a couple thousand miles away?

Take me to the king, says old buddy with a camera in the back there. Teammates, boys, good work today. Good work today. You guys are moving sleds over there. Good work today, boys. Everybody dapping them up, by the way. This was the conversation at the combine. When he talked to equipment managers, when he talked to athletic trainers,

he talked to his teammates. They liked him. Yeah. Yeah, that means a lot more. That means a lot more. There's offense. Right there. Yep, you can talk to his teammates. They like them. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You can too. Yeah, that means a lot more. That means a lot more. There's offense. Right there. Yep, yep.

Oh. Love that. Guys being drafted. Yep, we like that. Who cares about the throws? We enjoy that. Yeah. Hey, that's a big deal right there.

That's his offensive line. Yep. And we got a day. Oh, yeah. No sweat, Conor. This is the biggest part of this entire thing. That matters right there. That matters.

Not just one teammate. Not just two teammates. Damn near the whole team. Well, in different position groups, too. I think I saw him with the D line there a little bit. Offensive line a little bit. Wide receivers obviously coming through. That's a big son of a bitch right there.

I don't know who, what department that is. We didn't tell Lewis we were calling him. He's in the middle of watching like, hey, you know what I like the most? He's probably going to say, anybody that's been around the game is going to say something that we just said in real time. The big takeaway is going to be afterwards, he wrestled with an offensive lineman. He dapped up the

equipment managers. He talked to everybody. That's everything that has been said about him in the last few weeks, seemingly. Because for a long time, we didn't hear from Caleb. We only heard from Caleb's team. And now we don't even know exactly who's on his team that could potentially be saying things. And a lot of people had negative feelings about Caleb

because of what a team was saying instead of what we're hearing from Caleb. Everything I'm seeing from Caleb is teammates like him. Off the field stuff is awesome today. What was that? What about the combine? I mean, honestly, the combine stuff too. The biggest thing was the bowl game. Like hearing them say stuff on the sideline then was weird.

What's that? Like we finally got a team now. Let's go. Like that stuff was weird to me. What are you talking about? During the USC bowl game, that was some of the mics picked up these guys after they scored all

pumped up. Because remember, their quarterback threw for like five touchdowns, whatever his name was. Oh, God. I'm just saying. That's what I'm saying. You asked what I was talking about. I'm telling you what I was talking about. Anyways, congrats to Caleb getting through his pro day. Check it off the box. Check the box in this draft process. gotta go to combine get tested gotta do your pro day you did

it now is probably visits visits to two three teams you were picked what six yeah how many visits did you take um probably i think i took three visits uh I went to Washington. I didn't go to Tennessee. I went to Miami and Tampa Bay. What numbers were they drafting? Tampa Bay was two. Dolphins was three, I think, three or four. They were all top picks. Yeah, they was all in the top five.

This is like Andrew. When Andrew came and visited the Colts in the pre-draft visit or whatever, he had to go to Washington next. And as soon as we heard that, he came into the athletic training room. He pre-draft visit or whatever he had to go to Washington next and as soon as we heard that he came into the athletic training room he was just giving a tour or whatever and I had heard that he had to go to Washington so obviously make a big announcement like safe travels over to Washington Andrew we're not sure we're taking you so never know what's gonna just like basically mocking the whole process yeah and he's good human so he just I think he probably felt obligated to go do it. But there's some guys, like I'll be excited to hear who he chooses to take a visit to.

Yeah. You know, because if it's Bears, they probably have already talked to him numerous times. Probably go and take a visit. Is it just all done now? Like are we locking in 100% to Caleb's going to Chicago? Yeah. 100%. With the fields thing. No matter what, they don't have a quarterback.

Minus 5,000? Okay, so congrats to Caleb. Had one last workout with the boys. That's what today was. One last workout with the boys. Now you keep it moving. Marvin Harrison Jr. did nothing today at Ohio State. Not one, nor at the combine. Nothing at the combine. Nothing

at the combine. Did he get measured? I don't think so. Geez. I could be wrong. I think they were asking the Ohio State trainers, at a physical, how tall was he? Yeah. And the athletic trainer was like, I was told. I don't know. You find that information yourself.

Find that information out yourself. Obviously, Marvin Harrison Jr. is a prolific wide receiver at Ohio State. Stud. Award winning. Everything that they talked about, he seemingly was. Hey, we need you to get extra workout in. We need you to go ahead and hit the jugs. He was on the jugs literally before the day started

and on the jugs at night when the day ended. Oh, is that during season? No, that's all year round. Bobby Carpenter, the general, who boots on the ground in Columbus, goes to practice, works out with the team year round, still is a 40-year-old. Yes, we're all very baffled by it.

How is his body able to hold up? Well, I think shout out to Affinity, but also how is his brain able to continually mentally tough himself through a college football team's workout, which are miserable and nightmares? But he has good inside information because he's literally in the building working out with these people. cuff himself through a college football team's workout, which are miserable and nightmares. But he has good inside information because he's literally in the building working out with these people.

Marvin Harrison Jr.'s work ethic is like everything you dream of out of a superstar. He obviously gets it from his father. He did measure at the Combine, Marvin Harrison, 6'3 and 2'8, 209. Hand 9 1⁄2, wingspan 77.25, arm 31. Whatever the hell this means, I have no idea. I know that he's going to be a good football player. Being 6'3", okay, bigger than normal.

209 pounds, not frail. Got it. Wingspan, huge. Big catch radius. We saw it in the college ball. Hands 9.5, okay, can catch a football. Got it. That's all we need to know.

But I do wonder why they're not having him work out. Is it because hey, just watch the tape, watch the film? A lot of people are saying maybe he'll run a slow 40 and that'll kind of knock him a little bit. That's what people are saying? Yes, on the X, yeah. That was the assumption. Like, hey, Marvin's not doing anything because he doesn't want people to know that he runs a 4'6". And maybe

his dad's like, we're not doing any track training. Sure. We're not wasting time for you to learn how to do a 40, for how to learn how to do any of this stuff if they don't believe you're a football player at this point they don't deserve to have you if they want to know what you run from in a straight line with no jam coverage nobody in your way nothing like that they're dumb if that is the thought process i respect it i understand it but also i think it does lead to a lot of chatter about marvin harrison here before the chat or before the draft by not just us but like internet

teams fan bases oh yeah because what you just saw with caleb did you hear zito back there he was oh yeah because that's not just uh usc fans watching that workout being but that's bears fans watching that going yup trying to find a little bit of hope. So Marvin Harrison, you know, we did miss out on him having NFL teams who are all in the top ten being like, oh, oh, this guy's going to be awesome as a member of the… Arizona Cardinals? This guy's going to be awesome as a member of the… Los Angeles Chargers?

This guy's going to be awesome as a member of the Indianapolis Colts. We're going to trade up and we're going to get Marvin Harrison Jr. But all that is all we missed. He's been in an NFL camp basically his whole life. And that is probably where the mindset is. But I'm bummed we didn't get to see a Marvin Harrison

display today at Ohio State. And I wanted to make sure that I looked it up because this article says he has been transparent that he hasn't been training for the workout drills. He's been training for the NFL. Like he's been training to do... I assume that's his dad being like, we're not wasting time

doing this track meet start. We're running routes. We're going to go run routes full speed and I appreciate that. I think that is hilarious, but once again, bummed out that we don't get to see the highlights on this particular Big News Wednesday,

March 20th. Yeah, especially because it's stuff to talk about, and it's Marvin Harrison Jr., but it's not as if the Cardinals, when they're making their draft decision, are going to say like, you know, Malik Nabors, he did do his pro day, and Marvin Harrison didn't, so I feel like that kind of

sets it, right guys? It shouldn't be. Well, Marvin Harrison is already doing civil rights, his body of work that he already done done. You got to idiot. I'm not going to say idiots because neighbor's a hell of a player as well. And these young wide receivers are better than they've ever been coming into the NFL, seven-on-sevens, one-on-ones, and everything like that.

But I just understood that this guy was the guy. Yeah. Like forever. Going through last year, going through the entire process. Stroud's pro day yeah this is marvin harrison yeah exactly it's like a ferrari that you can't buy behind it like this is the guy over the last week or so there's been some people that say you know some teams have fancy neighbors more than marvin harrison jr there's some teams that even see roma dunze

maybe over the last couple meetings so this is the draft process this is people potentially selling themselves on a player that they're not going to be able to get for a player that they're going to be able to get whatever in the entirety of it. But some teams are going to get Marvin Harrison Jr. And he's going to be a 10-year pro. These agents are smart. Yes. We know that. Not all of them.

I'm just saying, like, he got a good agent. Like, guys know where they're going before the draft come out. It's been conversations that's already been had at the combine to get up to April 24th. What is it, 24th or 27th? It happened two years ago, Jalen Carter, when Drew Rosenhaus said he's not visiting anybody outside the 10th pick. And at that point, there had been a lot of drama during the combine, obviously with the very serious situation that happened back in Athens

whenever he was still in school celebrating a national championship. That was all being talked about. Is this guy's work ethic? Is this a guy you want on your team? It started coming out. It all started getting really loud in a negative fashion for this Jalen Carter guy. And then people were finding film of him giving up on plays at Georgia. It's like everything was coming up.

It was pro day. Yeah, pro day. It was terrible. Obviously, he's going through a lot at the time, but a lot of media, ourselves included, we're like, man, there has to be more to this. And then it comes out, well, he's not going to meet with anybody.

It's like, that's more bad PR for this guy. What are they even thinking about? And Rosenhaus comes on and goes, you think I don't know where he's getting drafted? I'm not sending my client around from team to team so he has to relive the worst day of his life. We don't need that mentally. We don't know where he's getting drafted. I'm not sending my client around from team to team so he has to relive the worst day of his life. We don't need that mentally. We don't need that physically.

And you think I don't know? You think I'm going to set my client up to lose out on an opportunity? I would never. You don't think. And then 10th pick got drafted. On the money. That is where. That's exactly where he got drafted.

It's like not every agent, but those at the top of this entire thing are seemingly pretty plugged with certain groups. Yeah, and the other reason we view the draft the way we view it is the best receiver last year was a fourth-round pick out of BYU, Puka Nakua. Like, no one was watching the BYU pro day. That's exactly why some of this shit, most of this shit, doesn't even matter. Okay, we're getting video of Caleb Williams' punt. Okay. We have a side shot here.

Is that the 50? What is that? 50? 40? Pretty good drop, actually. Good follow-through. He was at like the 15 there, it appeared. Not a bad hang time. I mean, certainly would be able to get there if he had to do a quick kick. We're looking for that ball to roll forward as opposed to sideways, but he can work on all those things.

I like the fact that he added the punt into his workout after dropping a dime, throwing a guy off a practice field. Hey, you know what? Let me see one. Let me get one. Let me get one. Off script here. Let me get one.

Quarterback coach, what's this guy doing? Of course, he's punting a ball. Horsing around. Of course, he's punting a ball. Having a little fun. Like Mac Jones when they ran a little fumble rooski and he caught the touchdown. His stock went through the roof after that. Oh, yeah, he the ball. Having a little fun. Like Mac Jones when they ran a little fumble rooski and he caught the touchdown. His stock went through the roof after that.

Oh yeah, he jumped up and caught it. Exactly. And then went over to Bill. He was just like Navy. See? He had the Navy mask on against Buffalo. Here's the go route. Where's he at? The 20-ish? 10? That's down at what? The 20-ish? That's a good deep ball right there. It's like 60 yards

there. Touchdown. And what does every athlete want to do? They want to punt footballs. Duh. Boom. That was a good drop. Good drop.

He wanted that to turn over. Step ball didn't turn over. I think he could actually punt. I think he can turn. You can see he done did it before, though. Yeah, the way he dropped that, he wanted that. You need to point that a little bit, Caleb. See, you had your little flexion here.

You need to point that a little bit more. Feels like he's probably a really good punter if he wanted to be, obviously. He's that. He wanted that. Need to point to that a little bit, Caleb. See, you had your little flexion here. You need to point that a little bit more. Feels like he's probably a really good punter if he wanted to be, obviously. He's capable. And maybe they draft him to punt. Yeah, he needs to point his toe a little bit more. That was a good drop. Flat drop. I like what he did there.

Let's cover some news that took place around the NFL. Chase Young's deal with the Saints. What we were initially told might not be accurate. Might not be accurate. One year, $13 million, fully guaranteed deal with the New Orleans Saints. Holy hell, congrats Chase Young.

Literally said, holy hell, congrats Chase Young on being able to pull that off. Now it's kind of coming out a little bit more. A little bit more. So the base salary is $2.7 million. Signing bonus $1.86 million. So you do the math there. What is it? $3.4.56 right there. Workout bonus $4.5. So that takes you up over $5 million. Signing bonus, 1.86 million. So you do the math there. What is it? 3.4.56. Right there. Workout bonus, 4.5. So that takes

you up over $5 million. Then you got per-game roster bonuses at 7.99 million. And all of us who have ever been in the NFL and have friends in the NFL, as soon as we see the per-game roster bonuses, we go, whoa, whoa, whoa. Those are bonuses. Those aren't guaranteed deals. Then we learn that he's getting a neck surgery.

Chase Young is actually getting a neck surgery. So he signs his deal, has the comfort of a home and a team, and about $5 million. Then he has also added on there $7.99 million in incentives for him to chase on his way back with the New Orleans Saints. Feels like this is a very good deal for Chase Young to get going into neck surgery. But also, shout out to the Saints giving him this deal,

being like, yeah, we'll bet on you being able to bounce back even more. Not sure how many people have gotten neck surgeries and come back and played, but we do have one person that has done that and came back and played football. Pac, you had a neck surgery, right? What was it on? I had C3 C4. C3, C4. Yeah. Okay, and that's the same surgery that

Peyton Manning and our boy Slayton had. Okay, Steve Slayton. Steve Slayton. So, you and Peyton were able to come back and Okay. And our boy Slayton Hatton. Okay, Steve Slayton. Steve Slayton. So, you and Peyton were able to come back and play? Yep. Steve Slayton able to come back? Nah. At the running back position, too, that's probably not the easiest. Chase Young, defensive line, do you think there's a little bit more clanging and banging

for his particular gig? But there have been people that have returned to playing after the surgery. Oh, yeah. The surgery is I ain't gonna say it ain't bad, but I had to have it twice because you got to wait for your bone to fuse. And sometimes it fused. Sometimes you had to take it out. I took my second time I had surgery, I took it out of my hip.

But the first time I took it out of the bone bank, it didn't even fuse. So I had to have another surgery. But I'm eager that he can play this year, but I don't think he'll be ready by September 9th. You're thinking like this November, December type situation, which is why the per game bonuses would make sense for the saints side of this entire thing but what we were told versus what it is is a little bit different seemingly now he's getting neck surgery i wonder if saints fans are like the hell's going on what the hell just happened

real quick so allegedly last year was the browns game where he got like a really bad stinger and then that had led to the issues with the neck. But it was known by every team, including the Saints, that he visited, that the scans and the physical obviously aren't good, not the best. But I think it's $470,000 per game, so even if he misses those first couple, he could still probably bring home seven, six and a half of that roster bonus guarantee. Some background on Saints defensive end Chase Young's deal via Albert Breer here. Scans on his neck made it tough to find a suitor. No one would clear him on his physical.

The condition was initially found after he had a stinger last year versus the Browns in preseason. He'll have neck surgery tomorrow. The idea in doing the one-year deal with the Saints with $5 million guaranteed and 7.9 million in per-game rosters was to allow for Young to get locked in with the team, go through a 3-5 month rehab from surgery, and have a chance to make the money back. And with per-game rosters, really,

this protects the team and the player. It's 100% based on ability to get cleared to play. The net condition was a factor, too, in his trade market back in October. The Bears weren't comfortable with the scans. The Niners were. He was going to play for the Niners. He didn't have, I guess, as many stats as everybody would have wanted.

Didn't click as fast as everybody wanted, but I would assume Niners fans would be thankful that he was there disrupting the game for them. He now finds a new home, and they're paying him $5 million. That's pretty good. It's a great deal. Especially if it doesn't fuse. If it doesn't fuse, you've got to get another surgery.

They're saying three to five months, but that could be extended if it doesn't work, right? Yeah, it can be extended. It could be extended. And he's getting $5 million regardless. Team in cap hell. You're getting a pretty damn good player for what they're paying him. And he's never played there before.

No. So we are obviously all on the side of let's have a good surgery. Let's bounce. Let's go. Absolutely. But the reality of the scene is sometimes like, sometimes things don't work. Packhead has not necessarily catched the first time, and who knows. I know there was a time, I think, where Peyton couldn't feel.

Yeah. Couldn't feel his hands. Yeah, something happened with his nerves, gaining it all back or whatever. So, I mean, who knows how it goes. Three to five months. Two-month window there is pretty big. Yeah. This could go three.

This could go five. I think that could also go a little bit longer. Five is here. What's that? Five is August. I think that could also go over the long. What's that? Five is the training camp pretty much. Yeah, so then all of a sudden we're seeing it. Good luck, Donner. Good deal, though.

Feels like it's a good deal. Hey, don't rush it, though. Whatever you do, brother, don't rush it. Because it can get way worse. Make sure you're healthy instead of trying to go and get a book. Make sure you're body right. Make sure you're fused of trying to go and get a buck. Make sure you're body right. Make sure you're fused, I should say. Especially your neck.

Yeah. Especially with the per-game bonuses. Like, making it back for the opener and then missing 10 on the backhand. Yeah, right. It's worse than missing three in the front and playing all 14 at the end. Or missing everything. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Who knows what he's getting it on, too?

I wonder what the specific. Yeah, we don't know the exact neck procedure. If you have neck surgery, it's got to be C1, 2, 3, 4, 5. That's the only thing in your neck. Go down to 6 or 6, I think. Nailed it. There's C2, 3, 4, 5.

I got 3 and 4 together. That's right there in the middle. Yeah. Is there a, what they do? They go in through the back? Through the front. Ugh, Jesus. How long? How long was the surgery?

That's a good question. I don't even remember. You were out, though? I was out. So you got to stay in the hospital for like three, four days with that. It's not just like you have surgery and you can just walk and go home. It's your neck. Neck surgery.

Yeah. I forget who it was. There was some NFL GM that said minor neck surgery. And I remember I was on a team with somebody who either had a friend or they got I forget. They had somebody very close to them who had a neck surgery that went wrong or something. Like minor neck surgery.

What are we doing? Oh, spine. Just your whole body seemingly. Just normal run of the mill heart surgery. Okay, yeah. What are we doing? Oh, spine. Yeah. Just your whole body, seemingly. Just normal, run-of-the-mill heart surgery. Stuff's going right. Yeah, exactly. No big deal. He had minor neck surgery. It was like minor spine surgery.

Yeah. And he just had a little minor brain operation. Yeah, not a big deal. Do it all the time. Hey, there's some things that are a little bit more important than the others. Happy you got back. Two neck surgeries. Yeah.

Now he's rapping. Let's go back. SOB. SOB. Stand on business. It is catchy. Oh, yeah. You got to feel good about that, how it is catchy.

Yeah. You got a remix coming out soon, you said? Stand on Christmas. No. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Dump that. Dump that. Somebody's going to steal that. Dump that. Somebody's going to steal that.

Dump that. Start a show with that. Yeah. As soon as I said it, I'm bad. Don't let anybody else get this. Yeah, Mariah Carey heard that. Yeah, bingo. She's going to corner the whole market.

She's already got it. And she's like, oh, I got the next 20 years here. Standing on Christmas. SOC. Got Nick Cannon drops in. Eminem. I don't know if Eminem and Mariah are doing anything. They're used to it.

Well, I heard one time. I don't know. Because Mariah. I don't know enough about the drama world. Cannon now. What is the rap world right now? Who's all the OGs still running it? Lil Mabu.

Yeah, Lil Xan. Lil Mabu's still doing his stuff? If what Mitt is telling me, yeah, Lil Mabu runs the game. So I think Mitt sees a lot of himself in Lil Mabu. I think so. I could see that. I think that's why he's such a Mabu fan. Yeah, exactly.

But who is? I see DJ Khaled says he's got two drake uh songs locked that's been on every post that he's made on instagram for the last two months yeah he actually walked out with drake with a sign that said two drakes on my my next album soon come which i'm a big fan dj khaled anything you do i'm gonna listen to forever just know that you got one person he's got it in indiana that is gonna press play on all your shit, regardless of what it is. So congrats to that.

But is it all the OGs still? Who is it? It's a lot of younger guys, too. A lot of young kids. Of course, y'all know everybody, baby. But it's a lot of young artists. You know what I mean? That 1920 that is on fire right now.

Really? Music industry doing well right now? Yeah. I would say the biggest right now is probably fire right now. Really? Music industry doing well right now? Yeah. I would say the biggest right now is probably NBA Youngboy. Okay, huge. Huge. Because social media, I assume, helps all these guys. Yeah, Blueface, Lil Durk just came out with Chet Holmgren in SGA in Oklahoma,

which is pretty sick. That is sweet. Yeah. I like that. I like that move of rappers walking out with the people of the city. I don't keep up with the young rap game enough. I do apologize for that. But I know they're doing it.

I know they're doing it. All right. Let's get the fuck out of here. Oh, no. We got to cover something. Oh. Zion Williamson, the real deal. Oh, boy.

He's back? Yeah, he's back. Oh, boy. Let's go. How awesome is this? Incredible. Legit. Great for the league. awesome is this? Incredible. Legit. Great for the league.

This is years in the making. This is great for our lives as well. As soon as I saw Zion on Instagram as a 14-year-old taking off and dunking on everybody in that South Carolina region, and then him doing real dunks and still remaining a beast of a dude. I was like, oh, this is the one. This is the one. Now we're seeing the adult version of the viral teenager.

He is at his perfect form. They said he lost 25 pounds over the last few months. His team had to have some conversations with him around him about how much they enjoy him as a human. Everybody loves the guy. I think in his personality and who he is as a human. He's been famous since a teenager. He's remained humble, I believe.

He's gotten himself into some shit because he's got some, what's going on over there? Maybe I'd like to try some of that. A lot of that going on. But they said he's dialed in right now. It's fucking awesome. Incredible. Nobody else is able to do it. Now, I know that Ant-Man just took off from whatever.

Him in the sky is a little bit different than Zion in the sky. Two different style of dunkers. And when Ja Moran is healthy, we got a whole other high flyer, Electric Factory, who I believe played basketball with Zion growing up. This is great for the NBA. You got Wemby figuring out basketball, right, in the NBA. He'll have a new team around him. Hopefully they'll become better.

For sure. Zion is becoming a superstar. You got Ant being called the next face of the NBA. You got Kyrie Irving back playing his best basketball. Luka and Joker are still at the top of their game, so overseas it's still crushing. And Kasey Tominaga is coming into the draft. Steph Curry's still shooting the lights out, I assume. LeBron James is somehow still playing now.

He's doing podcasting. It's like the NBA is in a good spot right now. Good for them. And Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown are still going. Giannis and Lillard have been the only... It's the best team in the fucking league and they don't get talked about. That's fine. It's beside the point. Giannis the best team in the fucking league, and they don't get talked about. But that's fine.

It's beside the point. Like Giannis, Lillard, like the league is so young. The worry in the NFL, I feel like at least five years ago, was like Big Ben, Brady, Rogers. I mean, I'll throw Rivers in there. But all those old guys, Drees, all those guys leaving, and then you got this fresh crop. Like in the NBA, the worry with LeBron and Durant and them being done,

it's like, hey, it doesn't matter because now there are all these guys that are so ridiculous. And to your point about Wemby, there is a massive chance Wemby is better than everybody in two years. So the face of the league talk with Ann Edwards and me saying Tatum, it's like, it might be Wemby very, very soon. He's just swatting, folks. And he's driving so bad on the soon. He's just swatting folks. Yeah, he's driving. Oh, baby court 76 he's right. He's not even jumping. No, don't dunk the ball

He just has to run near the hoop and it's left his hand. Mm-hmm. We're talking about there's many hoops back in the day Yeah, yeah, that's life. That is basketball for him. Yeah, and he's a kid like he's 20 He's a deep thinker too. He's made for the moment. He could probably sit with the medicine. I don't think he needs to sit with the medicine. He might have. His middle name's Ayahuasca because he comes with that wisdom.

Bingo. They were talking about the French team starting Wemby at small forward and Bede at power forward and Rudy Gobert at center for their national team. But Embiid declared for Team USA. Fuck it. I want to win a gold medal.

Hell yeah, Embiid. We appreciate that. USA. USA. USA. We love that. Speaking of France, there's an American Football Professional League in France, and the Paris Musketeers had a visitor in Tyree Kill,

and Tyree Kill did some one-on-ones against their DBs over there, and it's safe to say we're better than the French at football. Gotcha. I mean, the people signing up for this are like, what? All right. Oh, God. All right. I would love to hear 38's thoughts.

Like, what the fuck is this? Who the fuck is this guy? He's not at play in France. He's open. Don't even throw the ball. Yeah, I mean. Is this guy coachable? Can Pat coach this guy?

He's going to have to get a new number, too. Corner's one of those positions that you've got to have certain traits. That's not this summer that we have flag football, right? No. Okay. Oh, man, I wish. Oh, my God. I appreciate Tyreek getting back to the game over there.

Yeah. And I like that this guy got a chance to witness what it is. Hey, this is what it is. Yeah, this is the NFL, baby. This is the highest level. This is the best, most explosive human that has ever played in the NFL. Yeah. How about him on those kickoff returns?

It's a little different. Yeah. It's a lot different. How about him on that new kickoff? What? Xavier Worthy. So let's say you have a kicker. I mean, this is just the beginning of these conversations. Kicker kicking into wind.

End of season. Probably going to land somewhere between 10 and 20 if not beforehand and this is a new kickoff rule that's being pitched this weekend at the owners meetings every special teams coordinator is on board with it that has never happened in the history of the nfl that every special teams coordinator has ever agreed to something they agreed to it because they were worried like hell that the kickoff was going to get eliminated from the game. Now they're all going to try to game it and figure out how you go about doing this. The ball has to get kicked into that landing zone,

which is from the 0 to the 20 there. End of season. Into wind. That ball's coming down in between the 15 and the 20 probably or the 10 and the 20. You put Tyreek Hill back on the goal line. And then all of a sudden, he's shot out of a cannon. Well, nobody's allowed to move

up here at the neutral zone until the ball is caught. So he's full speed at the 20 while you're standing still at the 40 trying to cover that. That's a weapon. That's a weapon. That's a real problem. He would have gone on and Packer, one of the greats, obviously Devin Hester, Hall of Fame

returner, Josh Cribs, one of the greats. Antonio Brown was a phenomenal punt returner. Yes. Phen Hall of Fame returner. Josh Cribs, one of the Antonio Brown was a phenomenal punt returner. Phenomenal punt returner. Dante Hall. Let's go, cuz. But if Tyreek Hill was to do a punt return full-time he would go down as the greatest punt returner

in history of football. Same with Antonio Brown, too. I think those two probably in the same conversation piece. Like if they did it full time, their touchdowns would inevitably end up going through the roof. But, yeah, Shane Leckler was already in the Hall of Fame at his career whenever he was at Houston. Had already been established. Had played against everybody.

Literally came out to me before our first game of the season. And you, uh, you guys got Kansas City Chiefs this year, right? Yep. Played them yet? Nope. Have you watched film of them yet? Nope. He goes, the return they got.

He's a different fucking being. He said, you take the snap, you turn directly to your right, and you punt that ball into the stance. You do not let the ball get anywhere near that guy. And I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. He said, yeah, me neither. This motherfucker's not, you're not able to describe him. He said, I hit the ball to the numbers.

I felt good about it. I was watching it. I was jogging it. Before I had my head down to see what was happening, he was already on the other hash. Wall had already been set up and he was sprinting by me. And it was like, what the fuck is that thing? What type of engine does this have? He the quickest fastest most explosive person that has ever been

on a football field and then time would tell us that that was an accurate depiction of who tyree kill is so if he was if they're going to use him in this oh my god they're going to use him in that they should for sure sure they would don't you think he would travel get a couple traveled with his pads though if he was planning on being in that? I didn't see a helmet or shoulder pads in France, and all great players travel with their helmet and shoulder pads. You're talking about Russell Wilson and Monaco. I've seen Tom Brady doing it, too.

That was in Montana. He traveled with them. Montana's the United States of America. He lives there during the offseason. Yeah. Does he keep those pads at his house in Montana, or did he travel with them from his team? I assume some equipment managers probably shipped some pads to Montana for him.

Every car he has has a set in it. This kind of takes us back to the Dynasty. That docuseries? Ty, should I watch that or no? I would, just because, because again if you love football and you lived through that era it's sweet seeing some of the stuff and some of the interviews like I said

are really cool and some of the home footage they have of Brady when he was much younger stuff from inside the locker room with Belichick talking is really sweet I said it early on I thought it was kind of like a whatever. But to Connor's point, like, to wrap it up,

for them to, like, really hammer home that, like, basically Belichick's the reason the dynasty ended. And, like, it was all Tom. None of it was Bill. Like, it was just, it was really weird the way they decided. The creative direction. And also, I think I mentioned it yesterday, Belichick was kind enough to agree to sit down with this guy,

which I'm kind of surprised he did. But then all the questions they asked were gotcha questions where if you know Belichick, you know he's not going to answer that. He's not going to give you any of this shit. So it even more so reinforces because he's not answering or he's not even entertaining what this guy's saying then you know i'm sure a lot of people draw the conclusion like oh well the you know like he is a piece of shit like he you know that there is a reason why he's not being forthright and forthcoming with his answers in these questions just i i really i thought connor was kind of

just being sour grapes being a fan and i understand, hey, they didn't cover the Super Bowls that in-depth. But I didn't think it was super, super slanted towards Bill until the final two episodes. And I was like, oh, yeah, this essentially was just like a Belichick hit piece. All right, I'm going to check it out. You should. Yeah, I'm going to check it out. And the episodes are only like 35 to 45 minutes. Hey, listen, if you want to check that out, but you maybe want to go check out a live show,

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Thank you, SeatGeek. All right. I think we did it today. Hell yeah. We got a box of Gary Viemons right over there. Can't wait. I think we did it today. Hell yeah. We got a box of Gary Vee Mons right over there. Can't wait. I know. The box has been beat to shit.

Yeah. It's because there's so many freaking great cards in there. They're trying to get out. This thing arrived yesterday during show because they put out a tweet that the largest box from Vee Friends Gary Vee Mons is being sent to our office and should be arriving at any time. Yesterday it arrived looking like that standing at about three feet tall, weighing in at 95 pounds.

What at least that box has a lot of sauce. Yeah. The tape has sauce on it. There's a lot of V friendsFriends stickers on top of it. So many stickers. So we're going to dive into that at some point. We will celebrate whatever we end up getting. I saw something last night that was worth $4,000.

What? Yeah. The subliminal slime. Guess what it was this morning. What was it? $3,300. Well, that's because the person who bought it decided to lower the price because they're good people. Oh, yeah, I know.

They had the corners of it. It's not men anymore. Yeah, bingo. It's like a car driving off the lot. That could be $6 million. What's the one called? It's not called a subliminal slime. This one's the tremendous tiger.

It was a stoic slime. Stoic slime. Oh, it is. Not very stoic. What? Very stoic. I mean, it's smiling, but yeah. Yeah, it normally is stoic.

No, it's stoic. It has no feelings. It looks happy to me. No, that's just its mouth sitting open because it's got kind of a lazier jaw. But then how come the corner of the lips are up like a smile? Like the Joker. That's just how the face is. Yeah, well, you see the eyebrows. The eyebrows are also slanted.

They're not just flat like a stoic face. That's how the face was made. Gunter. Gunter, the ring hennyo, is a stoic man. He never has those emotions on his face. I don't think that's a German. What you just said. Henne Rao?

I think it's a ring Henne Rao. See, I'm just trying to do my best Adam Pearce impression. I just don't have it. How about him? Adam Pearce. He's great. He's two for two on contract signings. Have you seen that?

Oh, yeah. Adam Pearce, general manager of Monday Night Raw, is two for two on contract signings. Yeah. Have you seen that? Oh, yeah. Adam Pierce, general manager of Monday Night Raw, is two for two on contract signings, not becoming full-on washes with fights. Yeah. He's gotten contracts signed two times in a row on TV. Huge. Big deal.

Settled down Nia Jax a few weeks ago. I know. Not easy. I know. Nia! He said. Yep. General manager. few weeks ago. I know. Not easy. I know. Nia! He said. Yep. General manager.

Oh, yeah. That's middle management. You're not supposed to be able to operate successfully. You're a dummy normally. Yeah. Not Adam Pearce. Shout to you, Adam Pearce. Way to go, Adam.

Keep it going, Pearce. He's a big Packers fan. Is he? Big Packers fan. Hell yeah, brother. Yeah, he's a big Packers fan. Good general? Big Packers fan. Hell yeah, brother. He's a big Packers fan. Good general manager. He is a terrible punter.

He punted the ball at his house a couple weeks ago and ended up in the top of a tree. No. With that being said, the tree was about six stories high, so he got the ball up there. Just needs a little bit more control. Like he has on Monday Night Raw. Bingo. Unlike that bum Aldis over there at SmackDown. That guy's got no clue. He stinks. What a Raw. Bingo. Unlike that bum Otis over there at SmackDown. That guy's got

no clue. None. He stinks. What a bum. Loser. Middle management bum. He is a bum. Just through and through. Bum. Bum. Bum. Bum. Bum. Bum. Bum. Bum. Bum. Bum. Bum. Bum. Bum.

Bum. Bum. Bum. Bum. Bum. And that's only because we bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. And that's only because we feel there's a little bit of tension between Pierce and Aldis. And we would like to let everybody know our allegiances are with the bald one, Adam Pierce. That's right, man. Let's get to a break for about 21 hours. How about it? Okay. Tomorrow, big day.

Yeah. Huge. Madness is here. We made it. Yes, we did. Cream Abdul-Jabbar will be right over there from the Indiana State Sycamores

who have a game tonight, NIT game. We'll watch him drop 40 tonight and then we'll get a chance to see the Larry Nerd live in person. I hope they don't lose tonight. They won't. Who do they have? They're supposed to be an attorney. They hope they don't lose tonight. They won't. Who do they have?

SMU. They're supposed to be in the tournament. They're not going to lose. Well, they're playing for second place in the NIT, unfortunately. Who's going to take home the banner? Well, the Hawks are hot, baby. Who? Iowa.

Can't be hot. You're not in a tournament. You're in the NIT. Then what's going on with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? They're actually hot. Are they? They're not in a tournament. You're in the NIT. Then what's going on with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar? They're actually hot. Are they? They're not in the Big Ten. Okay. So Iowa's played much tougher competition all year and now they're

showing, hey, you know, yeah, well we got teams from the fucking Missouri Valley coming into town. We're going to be doing just fine. How many creams in the Big Ten, though? Yeah, I don't know if you guys are ready for what Robbie Aveo is ready to do. I hope we see them in the title game. He's talking to you right now.

He's talking to you right now. Oh, is that funny, huh? Big Ten Iowa, huh? Tyowa? Shh. That's what he just said. That's okay. Hey, good luck. Good luck getting by SMU tonight. Don't choke. Is he related to... Don't choke, Bobby. Yeah, is that Kareem Abdul

Barcode? Barcode is a man who works for ESPN that looks nothing like him. He's talking about Hot Rod. No. Rodrigo Blankenship. Oh, yeah. I was thinking about a famous comedian who recently hosted SNL. Oh, Shane Gillis.

Bargots. You remember Bargotsi? We learned about him there pretty quickly. Is he still doing it? He's still doing it, yeah. He's just releasing new ones. He's coming back to Indy in June, I believe. Can't wait to see it. When's Shane coming?

Shane coming to Indy? Good question. He should. I don't know why he hasn't. Who counts in coming to Indy? Yeah. Shane, I bet, counts Notre Dame in October as his Indy. He knows better.

He's coming to Indianapolis. I hope. There's been a truck outside our office all day. I've been staring at it. Yeah, we should check that out. Oh, it's broken down. It's got its hood up right now. There's been somebody in distress for three hours. I've just been looking.

I'm sure they've been in distress. There's busted down cars right outside. Where the hell is Anthony Richardson? Well, he already saved somebody on highways. These are back roads. These guys are taking a long way home. They've been out there a long time.

You see them. You kind of see them, right? Yeah, there's the hood up. And there's a truck on the other side that's jumping them. I've seen the truck for the last couple hours. So, I don't know if it ran out of juice. So, it wasn't able to get the juice over. Maybe didn't have the cables. Had to go get some down at the store.

But, hey, we're on our way. Just like Anthony Richardson, we'll come safe. Have you heard about the traffic coming this way by any chance? What happened? When the solar eclipse comes, they are predicting 13 hours of gridlock on the highways and stuff around here because that's how many people are coming to see it. I got good news. We've talked about this already, and we have tried to piece together the technology behind it.

We might have the greatest shot of this solar eclipse that is supposed to be seen at its peak in Indiana. Bingo. Because it's happening during our live show. Well, it's April 6th, right? 8th, I thought. Oh, well, that would be, we would be in a different state. That would be Philadelphia 6th, right? We would be in a different state. That would be Philadelphia.

Oh, no. We're going to miss the eclipse. Oh, no. Who fucking cares? Leave it for the scientists. We're going to be We're going to have the shot. They're going to use our shot. We're going to be juiced up with just

mania and nothing but mania. It is the Monday. It's April. Oh, no. That's what I thought. Oh, no. We had it all figured out. We were going to be the shot.

I was hoping we weren't going to talk about it because I knew we weren't going to be here. Fuck. Anyways, just want to let everybody know, the next time this happens. 30 years. You get ready. We'll all come back. We'll come back. It'll be a reunion.

Exactly. It'll be sweet. Remember the time we missed the thing? Oh, man. all come back. We'll come back. It'll be a reunion. Yeah. It'll be sweet. Remember the time we missed the thing? Oh, man. Gotta come back. Gotta do it. That's a... Tony's crushed. He's been talking about this fucking eclipse for a year.

What are you talking about? I bought... Company bought, like, real things so that we can shoot this. Oh, really? Oh, geez. Now I feel bad. We'll find a different use for them. Luckily, it'll still be here. It'll be filming. We'll find a different use for him. Luckily, it'll still be here.

It'll be filming. We'll have Tim. We'll have Tim come over and get that camera. It'll be a live feed. I had this big plan. Ladies and gentlemen, this journalism show is about to debut the greatest shot of a solar eclipse in the history of

solar eclipse. Let's cut to it now. It was going to be live. We had a full telescope with a 4K camera. No. That's pretty cool. With a lens that could handle it. It would have been the shot. A lot of people asking for it from me. Are we allowed to use your shot?

No problem for your news organization. That was the plan. I was going to do this one right here. Sure. I was going to be hot horses and shit up. Who doesn't care about science? Science. gonna i was gonna do this one right here sure i was gonna be hot horse and shit up yeah who doesn't care about science science sorry i wish i'd be the greatest scientist on earth we can still do it someone you know someone will make sure that thing's running yeah it's a shame it's

a shame it really is we're gonna figure out how to use it yeah the money has already been spent so we are getting the shot of the fucking solar eclipse. Yeah, have to. Definitely. I was excited to see whether it was going to be Mitt or Talk that tore into the Caitlin Clark cereal box to look at the eclipse. We did get another one from an Iowa fan. Oh, good. Got one right here.

Caitlin Clark, superstar. Leader of the Iowa Hawkeyes women's basketball team. The reason why we're headed to Iowa on Friday. Pretty much the only reason. The only reason. Pretty much the only reason. Future of the Indiana

Fever. Not going to mention that either. Let's get out of here. We'll be back tomorrow with a good one. Great one. They show pretty good. Yeah, not bad. Really? I mean, I thought coming in, it was called Big News Wednesday.

Anytime I'm putting that in front of something, that means. No News Wednesday. Soterically. None. You know, talking about a situation where we got to. Because sports are awesome. Sports are great. But what do we want to actually spend time, three hours, talking about?

And what do we want to inform people about? What do we think we should be the ones talking about? Every day, that is the decision that we have to make. And some days are much better than that. Caleb Williams having his pro day there for the third hour. Huge. Because we don't need to be adding shit into the world about,

Bruno Mars, what's going on? Well, it didn't. It's not real. Fake. And we don't want to get caught into that entire thing. No, we do not. That was fake? Fake. Bingo.

Yeah, MGM came out and said it was. I don't know how you would do that. Last day before. Well, I know. You play like Bailey McComas at a blackjack date. I have no friends or anyone to tell you to just stop it. That was all a lie, though. Thank God.

But we thought about talking about that, but we didn't know if it was real or not. Turns out it wasn't real. Nope. That's a game you play every day. And it was the last day, you know, that we needed to have that, those type of news things because of March Madness tomorrow and Friday. Thank you, Caleb, for what you did. Good work.

Hey, kickoff rule. NFL's about to change. Yeah. Covered that extensively. Oh, yeah. We did do some journalism. Big journalism. And then we yelled at Reese. Yep.

That was good. That was fun. Need those. Yes. Yeah. Oh, stand on business. Stand on business. S.O.B.

S.O.B. S.O.B. S.O.B. S.O.B. S.O.B. S.O.B. S.O.B. S.O.B.

S.O.B. Still available? Yeah. Right now? Right now. Stand on business. Change the game. No, you said something bitch.

That is what people say S.O.B. is. No, I know. That's what I'm saying. Change the game. Now it's stand on business. S the game. No, you said something, bitch. That is what people say SOB is. No, I know. That's what I'm saying. Change the game. Now it's staying on business. SOB. You just got to piece them together. It's a banger.

It's catchy. Hell yeah. Staying on business. SOB. It's a banger. You smell me? I think they're listening to that while they're trying to fix that car. That's why they've been so distracted.

It'll be. All right. If this ball goes in, we'll give away how much? Zero fucking dollars. Agreed. From me. I agree. Go ahead. Throw the ball. We learned that

today we learned that these giveaways have... They cause more fucking problems. That's what they fucking do. Four and a half million dollars I've given away. That's a lot of moolah. Over $4.5 million. You'd think it'd be four and a half t-shirts. Pat, you don't think you'd pay attention to that?

No. When I'm just saying, let's do these giveaways. And then the process behind how it works, it's like when you're giving away like 25 people the same amount of money on some app platforms, it is a little bit of a hold up every once in a while you know and when you or when you're an asshole and you're like 50 winners it's like okay now we got to do 50 transactions with this entire thing so maybe it might take longer than an hour or two it might after your announce is a winner yeah might take a couple days actually to do the whole process we have connections at venmo now which we've had to make because they were the one limiting how much

money we could give away. I don't think we have connections at PayPal, which some people still use. I don't think we have any connections at Cash App. Venmo, PayPal, same. I thought PayPal bought Venmo. They're both still exist. Okay, so we need to hit the Venmo person about the PayPal thing? Yeah, I would assume.

Whatever the case, we're giving away a lot of money, so whenever people you know... Oh, I didn't... Yeah, I won 45 minutes ago. Where the fuck's my money? Bitch, I'm complaining. That is something that does ruffle some feathers of some people. Nah, it's just dumb, because it causes problems.

There's no point to give it away. There's legit, like... I've done this before, like, fuck the giveaways, but now I am actually serious. Like, Yeah, I'm out. If it gets brought up again, fuck that. Don't do it. Today, we're going to not think about all that. We're going to think about the people that say thank you for giving me $500.

You guys changed my life. Yeah, that whole thing. Has anyone ever done that? I've gotten a few, yes. I've gotten a few. Very kind people who I'm happy about. Fistball goes into that bucket over there. We'll give away one shoebox of Gary Vee Mons.

Holy shit. So that's worth like $75,000. It's Gary Vee Mons. We could start giving away that pile. Oh, yeah. Shit that just gets sent to me. I mean, I'm sure there's really good stuff in there, and there's people that have really good intentions, but we're at the point now where I'm sure there's really good stuff in there. And there's people that have really good intentions.

But we're at the point now where... There's too much shit in here already. I'm not spending my whole... My whole job isn't fucking opening boxes. But, like, thank you to everybody that sent the stuff. We're giving away money. Huh? What?

That's just, like, the last week and a half. So... There you go. You make it, someone gets that box of Flex Seal. There's a giveaway. Which we are thankful for. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you for that Flex Seal.

All right. One shoe box Gary Vee mod. Okay. Oh, that might be 10 grand. It could be. It could be. It could be 10 million. It's part of the fun.

10 grand would be $2,500 winners. We do that pretty much every time. Right. But there is a chance of that. Yes. I really want to give away one of these. Let's focus it. You know what I mean, Pac?

Yeah. What'd you throw up there? I threw one of the trolls. That was close. Just a little high. I really wanted that ball to go in. Good throw for you. That was close Just a little high I really wanted that ball to go Yeah it was close It landed too Good throw for you

Good throw for you too It was yeah It was wobbly though Looked a little bit like a couple balls we saw today Yeah But it was a good ball though It got there It got there

Just like Peyton A lot of wobble He lost Kurt Warner through wobbles Jared Goff does Yep Jared Goff does Brady It ain't about Brady Is it A or B or not

let's get out of here thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living we'll be back tomorrow with a big one great work today Pat staying on business on all platforms alright be a friend tell a friend something nice

maybe change their car battery if they need it. Yeah, bingo. In the middle of the street. Maybe just say, hey, nice shirt. Even if the shirt is obviously not a nice shirt. When that person put on the shirt, they thought, ooh, this is... You were nowhere near the ball. It looked closer over here.

It did look much closer over here. How about I just fucking put one within an inch. You guys, great throw on the gnome. I thought it went in. Your ball. I mean, you guys are only 15 feet off.

It looks like it went in. Yeah. Bummer for all those people. Well, it was just one winner over Gary Vee Mon. Bummer for all those people. Well, it was just one winner over Gary Vee Mon. Bummer for that one person. I'm bummed out for that person. I'm not.

Just because one person. It hasn't been one person. Yeah, you're right. It's a lot of people. Yeah. It is going to get annoying. Yeah. There's a lot of people going, do you actually give away the money?

Because I won an hour ago and... I don't see anything. I don't see a single thing. We are lucky to be giving away the amount of money we're giving away. And thankful. Oh, yeah. Somebody gave us the wrong Venmo or PayPal or wouldn't give us information that we needed to pay them.

Didn't want to send W-9. Yeah, because if it's over 599, we have to tax. That's why everything's 500 that we needed to pay them. Didn't want to set W-9. Yeah, because if it's over $5.99, we have to tax it. That's why everything's $500. It used to be more. I used to be giving away like $5,000 to people for these games and things at the other office from way back. This has been happening. One person won $1,000.

We're like, all right, we have to get your tax information because we're a company, obviously. This whole thing happens. We're paying you enough money that has to be reported i'm not doing that i'm not giving you that information it's like okay well we need it or whatever conversation ends came came back three years later in an email hey i ever got paid it's like we still have all the emails saved and we have and then he said he wanted inflation yep that's gonna be 1200 bucks 1300 bucks that's what we're dealing with well that's what we're choosing to deal with yes oh and then he said he wanted inflation. That's going to be $1,200. $1,300.

That's what we're dealing with. That's what we're choosing to deal with. That's what we are choosing to deal with. But 99% of the people are great and thankful. That is... 90% of the people are great and thankful. But it's not as easy just to fucking give away money as it should be. There's a lot of banks

and cards and the government. Say Publishers Clearinghouse. It's not easy. And Publishers Clearinghouse, I don't know how fucking much shit they got to go through. I know. I can't imagine. Might be time to bring back the cash wagon. Cash wagon was a real deal. I've been giving away money since I got money because I think it's hilarious

and who gives a fuck? Let's do this. Other people need to win this. Not just because you're a part of something this other people need to win this not just because you know you're a part of something that gets money from folks like sometimes people just deserve to fucking win money and it's like some people deserve to be recognized even though they will never put themselves in a position to be recognized some people deserve just a little scratch off let's go ahead and hit one here so i love doing it we love doing it but there is always bullshit seemingly with everything that happens. That's life,

baby. That's why we keep pushing forward. That's why whenever you see somebody that's looking a little down, tell them, hey, Ty, nobody wants to play for your Iowa football team. Who cares? You guys are still going to be good. We got the guys we need. Caden Proctor said, I won't go back home.

Give me the fuck out of here as soon as he got there. That does not mean anything about next year, Ty. Don't be bummed out, Ty. Oh, I'm not. I'm not. He can go be a turnstile at Alabama. That's fine. Because he kind of was last year.

And I didn't say it on the broadcast because he's an Iowa boy. And I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. But that ain't happening anymore. See, he's bummed out. You hear that negativity? Very much so. You hear that toxicity? That was a true freshman.

So I'm going to say, Ty, your hair looks good today. Hey, thank you. Conman, the giveaways are fun. Almost as fun as you are on Everyday News. Oh, man, that's great, man.

You too. Thank you. Tone Diggs. Yeah. How about the Pittsburgh Steelers? Next year is the year that you've been dreaming about for like 10...

Boom. Yeah. Cowboy hat looks good today. Thank you. Pac-Man, always dressed sweet. Thank you, brother. And even though he didn't take a single kickoff back to the house, he did get caught by a white person.

Yep. Who ran a 4-3. 4-3-2. 4-3-2. Man was a dog. I don't know how I'm just now learning about this particular white. I'm not necessarily thrilled about that. Pac-Man Jones takes it as goal line. Makes a cut.

He has a lane. Shakes the kicker. End zone. In front of Pac-Man Jones. Ooh! An extremely fast white tackles him by the ankles. They're going to score a touchdown next play. But Pac, it

ain't about that. It's about you being a good teammate and setting up the offense and being a good teammate for us and showing up today with great energy. Hell yeah. Thank you. All day you've been staying on business, SOB. Appreciate it, man. Hell yeah, Pack. Good boy, Pack. In the back, great work, boys. Great work

back there. You all look so handsome and thin today. Even you, Foxy. People are saying you're starting to look a little fat. It's muscle. That's right. Didn't know they grew muscle in places they were calling you fat, but it's bullshit. Fat turns to muscle is what they say.

Zion Williamson, you look good, pal. Hell yeah. Yes, sir. Alright, thank you everybody for watching. We'll see you tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice that might change their life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye!