The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1104 - Mania Thursday With PK Subban, Dwight Freeney, Kelsey Plum, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 4, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the collective College Sports Today which is at the forefront of trying to implement a new system for college football which consists of 70 teams with no conferences, and the Authority on College Football, Pete Thamel joins to fill in all the details. They also discuss everything going on in the NFL and the fallout of the Bills trading Stefon Diggs, as well as tomorrow’s show LIVE from WWE World in Philadelphia. Joining the progrum to chat about last night’s hockey fight heard ‘round the world, and how crazy the race to the playoffs has been is 13 year NHL veteran, Olympic Gold medalist, 3x All-Star, and ESPN NHL analyst, PK Subban (17:48-32:06). Next, Hall of Famer, Super Bowl Champion, 4x All-Pro, 7x Pro Bowler, and member of the NFL’s 2000’s All-Decade Team, Dwight Freeney joins the show to chat about his Hall of Famer career, the anxiety of waiting for the Hall of Fame selection, his thoughts on Bill Belichick not being a Head Coach this year, how difficult it would be to play edge rusher in this modern era, and more (1:31:55-1:47:09). Lastly, 2x WNBA Champion, 2x WNBA All-Star, All-Star Game MVP, All-WNBA First Team, Las Vegas Aces star, and former all-time leading scorer in Women’s College Basketball, Kelsey Plum joins the show to chat about Team USA, what Caitlin Clark is doing for the women’s game right now, the transition into the WNBA, how the international game differs from the W, her thoughts on the Final 4 this weekend, and more (1:59:30-2:26:37). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this WrestleMania Thursday, April 4th, 2024. This sports program starts now! Sports! Oh wonderful. Sports never stop sporting and what is sports? Well, it's obviously the competition that's happening on the court or the field or in the pool or on the track or you get it, wherever sports are taking place, but it's also everything happening around it, like decisions for the future, the drama and the personalities

that make up the sport. And today, we have a lot of that to chat about. We're not going to be alone. No, we got some incredible guests today. P.K. Subban will be joining us in about 10 minutes or so to talk about hockey. Hockey is awesome. Last night, hockey had something happen that, you know, although it has happened in the past before,

every time it happens, it's electrified. Yep. As soon as the puck was dropped to start the game, all 10 dudes on the ice started fighting each other. Love it. Okay. Now, goalies did not, which... We don't.

We tried. We will ask P.K. Subban about, but the Rangers and the Devils last night proved that hockey is the only sport that's left that isn't scared to go ahead and throw some hands. Yeah. Settle some businesses. You know, a check happened a couple, or not, an elbow to the head happened about three weeks ago from that big tall 73 fella to the New Jersey Devils player. And since then, there has been a little comeuppance, maybe thought.

As soon as the game starts, 10 fights happen. We'll talk to PK Saban about that. And also, everything else happening around the hockey world. Who do we need to be watching? Because hockey is awesome. In the second hour, we'll be joined by Dwight Franey, former team member of mine, now Hall of Famer. Can't wait to chit-chat with him about his life, what he has going on.

You know, how excited he was whenever he found out he was going to have that gold jacket and that Boston Canton for the rest of time. Good teammate, this guy. Hey. Great teammate. Great, great teammate. Revolutionary. Yeah, well, absolutely revolutionary on the field as well.

He's the one that potentially developed a chip block. Bill Belichick and the boys up there in New England developed a chip block allegedly to stop Dwight Freeney because how fast he was coming out of Syracuse. People thought he was undersized. Oh, now he's a Hall of Famer. And as a teammate, he was always there, invited everybody to everything, took care of people,

and obviously had more money than everybody else because of how much money he had earned in the entire thing. Was not scared to use it on a teammate. Good teammate, great teammate. Happy for him. Can't wait to chat with him. No reason to roughhouse Kurt Warwick. Yeah, American underdog.

That's American underdog. And he didn't know his full story. But him and Robert Mathis literally were just closers. I was at this game. It was awesome. Fourth quarter. That's game over. They just won the game.

Let me walk it off. They loved him here in Indy. Can't wait to chat with him. Third hour, we'll have Kelsey Plum on. Okay. Obviously, WNBA champion multiple times with the Las Vegas Aces. It's no longer their league. Sorry about it.

It's the Fever's League. Yep. Yes, it league. Sorry about it. It's Fever's league. Yep. Yes, it is. Caitlin Clark's coming to town. What does she think about Caitlin Clark, the Women's March Madness, and everything happening around it? Can't wait to catch up with her. I think we'll also be joined by a friend of the program here in a matter of moments.

Knox's table is here. At Boss Connor, at Ty Schmidt. I see the Rhino. Hey, Rhino is a territorial animal. Yeah, exactly. Just like that Rangers-Devils game. Had that on just casually on the TV. Ken Rhino's on the ice. Bingo.

I wasn't expecting anything. I was like, hey, I'm just going to have the game on. Why not? This is the season, again, like football where you need a couple TVs because NHL playoffs are happening soon. NBA playoffs are happening soon. And all of a sudden, madness. I mean, that is why hockey is great. Could you imagine if on an NFL

kickoff? What about NBA? NBA, yeah. Opening tip. That happens. Ref throws the ball up, okay? Because that's what puck drops. There is a puck on the ice there. Oh, yeah.

Nobody even. Start the game. All right, here's start the game. You guys ready? Yep. Ready? Yep. Drops puck.

Yep. Nobody cares. Nope. Everybody on the ice does not care that there is a puck live on the ice and the game just started. And everybody in Madison Square Garden there is like, yes. Here's the angle from the top of MSG with the view of all ten people. There's two guys, I think, on the Devils that thought maybe they weren't getting in a fight.

They started skating away, and it was like, nope, oh, okay, we're all doing this thing. Love it. Couldn't even fathom this in the NBA. As soon as the ball gets thrown up by one of those refs. Jersey's off. Throws up. All right, here we go. Yoke it, Austin.

Imagine that NBA arena. The whole place would be like, oh. Yeah. We got a seven-foot tall dude fighting a seven-foot-two tall dude right in front of us with a couple scrappy guards underneath. Coaches were chirping a little bit last night in hockey. Oh, yeah. They were maybe going to go ahead and jump the glass

as there was eight dudes in a penalty box. Look at, is that Peter? Yeah, that's Laviolette. In the middle there, just going, all right, well, I'm hearing what he's saying. Darren Pang is his name in the middle. Shout out to him. Great bald head. Fantastic bald head there.

He's in the middle. Coaches almost started brawling. Hockey, listen, if you're not going to watch the sport, that coach has been around forever. Yeah, that's Peter. Love you a lot. Hey, hey, what you think this was? What you think was going to happen here?

I love everything about it. I love everything. The sport, though, you know, there's some hockey purists that get all pissed off, like, that's not what hockey is. There's no room for this in the game. I want to let you know as somebody that did grow up in hockey time, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and is a hockey fan, my 30th birthday was a Pittsburgh Penguins-themed birthday.

I am a hockey fan, but I'm not a guy who can skate. And I didn't play, and I'm not from Canada, so I think you definitely kind of dropped me. But you get me on the deck. I got some clap bombs if you need it in this entire thing. The hockey purists don't necessarily love it. I want to let you know I love it. All about it.

And it's great for the game, too. Last night, there was a bunch of people that were like, I didn't know this was, this is how hockey, part of that on the internet. It's like, yes, hockey is old school, but hockey is also 20, 30 miles an hour on ice, flying around, dangles talent, competitive edge. Everything about the sport itself is beautiful.

The fact that they have that as an entree is also a beautiful thing. One half of the hammer, done. Cowboy's turn. Digg is your turn. How you doing, Paul? Great, you? You know, not too bad. I think the future of college sports has been something that's been in question

for a little bit now. Last couple years, we've been in the middle of a transition era. A lot of people saying, why does the NCAA even exist? Oh, to get mad about a hamburger? Okay. Oh, to say something dumb. Oh, to keep a guy off the field for no reason? Oh, what's the NCAA's true purpose at this point?

Why don't they just create a league that moves the ncaa the hell out of the way well the internet was a buzz last night as college sports tomorrow was revisited which is basically the vision of a super league with 70 teams uh with a bunch of different divisions bottom division is for the low ones you can get relegated delegated going through that whole thing yep there'll be tv deals there'll be revenue sharing it and there's a guy who's the right hand man business-wise of roger goodell brian roll up who's actually involved in this so hold on hold the phone okay is there all of a sudden a league coming to the future that is a professional league that is involving college sports and universities that you know maybe moves the ncaa the hell out of the way and now we

understand a little bit clearer picture going forward. With this, there'd be free agency periods. There'd probably be rules on contracts. There'd be a salary cap. There'd be times in which you could do stuff. It would mimic what's probably happening in the NFL, and the NFL would also finally have a feeder system. Now, what does that mean for all the other sports, though? We're just talking football, football, football.

Well, it's called college sports tomorrow, so you would assume that there'd be some sort of development for other sports. Now, would those sports have to make money for a professional league to potentially be in there? Yes. For sure. What does that mean for everything else? Who knows? Joining us right now is a man who might know what the hell is going on.

The authority of college football, formerly the authority of college basketball, ladies and gentlemen, Pete D'Amico. Yeah, Pete! Pete, nice fountain. It's nice to see you in your backyard there. How are you doing, pal? I'm good, Pat. I just got to Phoenix for the Final Four. This is at

the hotel. I don't, in South Boston, Massachusetts, have a fountain in my backyard. I don't actually have a backyard. Hell yeah. Oh, okay. I just assumed you had a nice big sprayer, Pete Damel. Yeah, just the White House. This is a fuel estate. Yeah, I felt there was a three- to four-minute drive down a driveway to Pete Damage's house. You know what I mean? Gate open.

The authority's home. Yeah, sorry, sorry. You're not today. All the way back. That might have been your backyard. Okay, thank you for clearing that up. And obviously, you're in Phoenix. What are we even talking about? Obviously, you're in Phoenix for the Final Four. You will never stop. But let's go back to what we were just chatting about, college sports tomorrow. And I think whenever we hear

from the NFL world that one of Roger Goodell's tag team partners, Brian Rollup, is involved, we're like, well, it's going to work because that's kind of how this whole thing goes. What are our thoughts on this? What do you know that we don't know about this? And how optimistic should we feel about this potentially being the future of college sports? Well, I think, Pat, this article emerging today, and we wrote something about this, although we didn't call it a Super League about six weeks ago, is that the future of college sports is very uncertain. And the fact that private equity, big hitters like Brian Rolap and David Blitzer,

who is a big-time guy who's involved in sports ownership of a bunch of professional teams, the fact that they are essentially circling around college sports right now is indicative of the weakness. There is no future. You're 100% right. We're obviously lucky, Pat, week in, week out. We get to talk to a lot of the big brains, as you call them, around college sports, right? And I can talk to all these commissioners, athletic directors really really bright people if i called 50 of them right now and said hey what's college where it's going to look like in two years no one's going to know the answer um now this is a

potential answer and these people are gathering because they smell opportunity right like it's it's very simple this is they are not gathering for benevolence here right they're gathering because they think that college sports are an undervalued asset so um do i think this sports super league as it's later is going to work no i don't uh that the the paradigm of that they've that they've pitched people if you will has changed a few times to try to fit the the current model but i think the ultimate thesis of why it doesn't work drills down to this if g Greg Sankey, they don't want conferences, right? So you're going to try to X out Greg Sankey, Tony Petitti, and then the two major television partners for both those networks to then go back

and get more lucrative television deals for the schools? It just doesn't seem to add up. All right, Pete. We appreciate the hell out of you, pal. That seems like anything else you have on the subject that we need to know? No. I mean, look, we're going to be at a time where change is coming, and it's going to be drastic. And I can't see around the corner right now to where it's coming from, Pat. Is it going to be Congress?

Is it going to be the settlement of this House case where there is some type of payment model through the settlement of the case that allows players to get paid? Things are going to look drastically different in two years, and players are finally going to get a piece of the action. The mechanism of how that's set up is a grand mystery and to be determined. Okay, so this feels like this is one attempt. This is one group's attempt to potentially fix it. There will be others. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete Thamel.

About six weeks ago, we wrote about this. Seems like they're coming back now with another angle, and that means like, Rolop's team and them are very interested in being the answer. Let us figure this out for the future. We all know there's a problem. But him saying that everybody's circling

around us because they sense a weakness, and they can figure it out. If they figure it out, they know that this is a very profitable. This is like what the PIF did with Liv. Whenever they heard about the PGA's weaknesses. Nobody makes any money. There's actually no guaranteed contracts. Guys are actually

losing money going and playing in these tournaments. And they're like, well, that's, we can fix that. Here we go, here's guaranteed money, we can do this. That's what everybody's going to be trying to do for the college football. This particular group here that has been wrote about a couple times now, I guess, and they have Roger Goodell's right-hand man, they're having a

relegation delegation at the bottom of the conference. Here's all the 70 Power 5 schools, seemingly. I assume they're guaranteeing a certain amount of money for everybody. Here's how this will work. This division plays this division. You can do it all, but what he said there about Greg Sankey would then be just... Yeah, exactly.

Never going to happen. We know, yeah. Just to nobody. Now, Petitti, obviously, he carries a big hammer. He does. We saw that this past year. Yes, we did. Petitti was doing things that Petitti's predecessor or predecessors had never really thought about doing. But Petitti said, excuse me.

This is my job now. You're in my conference. To the national champions. Right. Yes. So I think Petitti will hold a lot of weight because obviously he runs the Big Ten, which if you think football-wise, the only, I mean, this sucks for the ACC. I do apologize.

Big time. And for the Big 12, I'm not happy. It's West Virginia's conference. Now, Gordon Gee, who is the president of WVU, he said, we're in on this one. I assume Gordon Gee's potentially going to be in on some other ones, too, because we're in Big 12 and nobody really knows what the future of a lot of these conferences look like. So there's going to be a lot of different options,

what Pete Dammel basically said there, as opposed to this just being the only option. Yeah, that's what's tough is the Big Ten and the SEC have so much power. And initially when they talked about doing this thing, it was like, hey, Greg Sankey should be one of the guys under consideration to run the whole thing. So if you think there's going to be some sort of plan

where it's like, okay, Sankey, well, you did great, kind of ushering us into this era, but so long, like that is not going to happen. I can guarantee that. So, I mean, we'll see. It's nice that they've at least started to get the ball rolling, though. Like it seems like this kind of thing kind of opens the door for other people to be like, okay, well, let's come up with our best plan of action as well.

But to his point about the two networks that have the two deals. That's the whole thing that i didn't there's a lot there's a lot of money there there's a lot of content there yeah which games are there right now because remember peacock came in with the big 10 deal yeah but fox still owned a majority of the big 10 deal and cbs and cbs yeah the afternoon slot so it's like what's available how's it available how are you going to go about refunding that money maybe it's just a big makeup of the money but then what is espn and fox espn and fox are just going to and cbs are just going to go and nbc are going to go okay i will pay more now for like it's not how business works i don't know how it all i don't know how it all comes together if

it was a perfect plan with the perfect people involved i think a lot of people would be much more wide open to it but who is the perfect group to decide think a lot of people would be much more wide open to it but who is the perfect group to decide what this is going to be that's going to be debated now yeah seems like there's a lot more questions than answers but what we do know is there are groups of people now trying to put together their plan and meet with people in positions of power which we appreciate this group doing trying to make this thing happen but this is just one of many is seemingly what pete saying. Yeah, hopefully, if anything, they learn from the PGA in the PIF situation. The NCAA should look at this and be like, okay, if this is going to happen and continue to happen,

and if Thamel wrote about this six weeks ago and this is going to be something that's going to be a conversation no matter what because these people want it, they should hopefully be like, hey, PIF got all these guys out of PGA. We can't have that happen with any of our athletes. Let's just take their model and use it. How about, though, that college sports tomorrow? Six weeks ago? Alright, didn't catch on. Nope. Alright, let's go to a drier time in sports media.

Okay, let's try to, let's drum up a little bit more here. Boom, it's coming. Maybe more people catch on. Maybe more people get behind it. Maybe the public, you know, because if you win the mob, you win Rome. That is a a real thing especially whenever it comes to tv ratings and entertainment and everything like that so taking another shot at it i appreciate i'm excited to see what the next group is trying to do yeah yeah no because this is roger goodell's right here this is the nfl's right team kind of coming together here now we have been told from source says that roger

goodell is not involved in this at all. The man, Brian Rolap, potentially because his kid, I think he's a Michigan, he's got a kid coming in high school. The future of college football is something that is very interesting. I'm not saying he wants to make it right, I think, for the good of his kids. Now, is there a vested interest as well business-wise? Sure. Well, he's the NFL's business.

Yes, always. So there's certainly something in there, but we have been told from sources that Roger Goodell was not. Just because this guy is a part of it doesn't mean Roger Goodell is a part of it because as soon as I read that, I was like, well, if Roger Goodell is a part of this, they need to do this tomorrow. But Roger Goodell, not involved with this. He's right here, man.

Brian, roll that. Yeah, if college football, like, they're dipping their toe in right now to being professional, and you can't just dip your toe in. Like, if college football, they're dipping their toe in right now to being professional, and you can't just dip your toe in. If players are going to get paid in whatever manner it is, whether it's from the school or whatever it is, you're going to have to go,

let's just go fully professional so that there is the guardrails, there is boundaries and stuff like that. And Connor said, learning from the PIF and the PGA situation, Rolap has been a name that's been thrown out a ton to take over that new organization that's going to be formed.

You would think that he would be looking at that situation and then also seeing this college football situation and be like, oh yeah, these two are very similar. Very similar, yeah. And instead of players, you're talking about schools. I'll be excited to see how it pans out because we could learn from what the fans have experienced with living PGA.

Like, hey, what we don't like is this whole thing split we can't be taken you know like bama and then not taking tennessee right like you can't you know there can't be the college football product is incredible right incredible yeah we can't so good can't be you know this has to be a yes come everybody as opposed to what happened with live where it was just like some guys yeah you gotta some guys, this has to be a full thing, which they will obviously learn from, and the future will hopefully be brighter for the student-human athletes.

Now, speaking of athletes, 10 of them brawled last night as soon as the puck dropped. We teased it at the beginning. It was the real deal. Now, the internet goes, holy hell, I forgot that hockey has this as a part of the game. As soon as the puck drops, start. Rangers-Devils last night. Everybody on the ice fought each other and the puck did

not matter. Joining us right now, ladies and gentlemen, 13-year NHL vet, Olympic gold medalist, Canada. Ladies and gentlemen, P.K. Yeah, P.K. Yeah, yeah, Canada. Yeah, you did it. We get it.

Okay, A. Alright, let's move on. Poutine, not bad. We get it. Okay, A. All right, let's move on. Poutine, not bad. There's a lot of good shit. Oven, very weird. Yep, definitely. We don't have to dive back into it all. But PK, great to see you, man. You look great.

You look great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Big story of the night, obviously, Rangers, Devils, all 10 men just fighting each other as soon as the puck drops. And even the ref knows it's coming. Let me get the hell out of the way here and let the boys do what they got to do.

Four refs on the ice, five different fights happening. Obviously, things are going to happen. This all started three weeks ago, or why does something like this happen? And how often is this kind of the start of a hockey game for those that might not know, PK? Well, first of all, I mean, this is the most exciting thing in sports. I don't care what anybody says. I mean, I was supposed to be in the garden for this game last night, and I got stranded here in Nashville because of bad weather,

and I was pissed that I missed the game. But this is definitely some retribution for the hits on Segan, Dollar, and Bastion. And I thought, listen, these are old teammates of mine, so if you ask me personally, I don't want to see them ever get hit. But the one on Bastian I thought was a clean hit. He's a big guy. You know, the one on Segan, Dollar, questionable. But you know what? This is great for the game. We haven't seen something like this in the game in a really, really long time. And I thought, listen, it was a great game overall. You know, lots of goals in that game lots of skill on display but it boiled over and you know what give Matt Rempe credit he had

to answer the bell and he answered it McDermott this is the biggest guy he's fought since he's been in the league the biggest guy and the most experienced guy that he's fought so far so I thought he handled himself well but the battle of the Hudson's back, we need this in hockey. No question about it. This trumps everything in sports as far as I'm concerned. Hey, Rangers-Devils, known rivalry, I'd assume, for the proximity and everything like that? Well, I mean, listen, when I was playing in New Jersey, I was fighting in exhibition games. And you know this, Pat, as an athlete. Nobody gives a shit about exhibition games and you know this pat as an athlete nobody nobody gives a shit about exhibition games but when it comes to rivalries when it's rangers devils montreal bruins rangers

devils right now i mean we need this rivalry back and i think it is back um you know we're going to see this more and more and i think peter labiolette is the right coach for this i think travis green's great. They played into it. But we need this. We need this emotion, this drama in hockey. It's an emotional sport. Let the guys go. If they want to fight, let them fight.

It's not a problem. I'd like to not see all those guys get kicked out of the game, but those are the rules of the game. Look, look at the players loving it. Rempe's loving it. The fans love it. This is what hockey's all about. This is a part of the sport that we still need to protect and we still need

to celebrate. And I'll tell you, look, there's respect. The guy's down. He's not hitting them. I love that. That's what you need. That's what the game's all about. And the players need to still have the flexibility to police the game themselves. There's still the game within the game.

And I love what happened last night. I loved it. Who didn't like it. There's still the game within the game, and I love what happened last night. I loved it. Who didn't like it? Here's all the penalties from last night's game, obviously. Ten-game misconduct. There's a lot going on there to immediately start the game, and I think we talked to Bettman a little bit, where we're like, hey, the fighting, good for the game. He goes, we don't need the staged fighting.

He said the staged fighting, not good. If it's going to happen naturally, I'll be excited to see his thoughts on that particular fight because that was comeuppance. That was you know, like I'll be excited to see what his thoughts are on that actually. And if there is like a reason or if it's just, hey, this is how this whole

thing goes. Okay. So Pat, I'd have to agree with Gary. The stage fighting there's an element to it that we probably don't need in the game but i'm gonna tell you something which fan doesn't want to see rampy and mcdermott square up whole arena whole arena like this as soon as it happens whole arena yeah i don't care i don't i don't care like what you think it's exciting to watch so you know it's just you don't want it to take over the game and take away from the skill and what the nhl is all about there's a ton of skill in the league right now the game's

at a better place than it's ever been in terms of the skill and the talent but there's an element of toughness and testicular fortitude that goes into being a hockey player. And people need to understand that. People need to understand why these guys get paid millions of dollars to play this game. Because you know what? You put your body on the line every single time you step on that ice and anything can happen. And I think that's the nature of the sport. We still got to protect it.

I don't mind. the nature of the sport. We still got to protect it. I don't mind. If you're asking me, I don't mind tough guys, willing combatants, two willing guys that want to fight. Let them go. Once they're done, we drop the puck and let's go play. It's a beautiful part. It used to be of society. Now, I don't think in society it should be happening, but in hockey... Don't get me started, Pat. Yeah, okay. All right. Yeah. I mean, back in the day, it always gets ruined because, like, you know. You settle it as men. Everything, yeah. But then, you know, you got people that are much better fighters taking on people that aren't fighters.

And then things happen. And then all of a sudden, nobody's allowed to fight anymore. And we all agree. We all agree. But it's much better than some of the alternatives that are happening nowadays whenever what used to happen. Anyways, hockey, it's a beautiful thing. Let's talk about hockey, NHL as a whole. I heardittsburgh penguins are all the way back is that accurate who do we need to be watching and are the pens all the way back i love everything about it pk

well sydney crosby as long as that guy's still breathing and he's still healthy anything is possible i will not rule that guy out or the Pittsburgh Penguins until that final buzzer goes and they're either in the playoffs or they're not. Sidney Crosby is still amongst the best players in the world, if not one of the best or the best right now. And we know what he's capable of doing.

He can pull this team into the playoffs and goat discussion. Yeah, he's the goat of our generation. There's no question about it. He's in that conversation. And when you have generational talents like him, you don't count them out until they're out. So the Penns going to make it or no? Big one tonight, right?

Huge. Ooh, huge one tonight. Huge one tonight. And then Saturday on ESPN, we got Lightning and Penns as well. So all the games are big. But, guys, can we imagine what that first round is going to be like in the national hockey league playoffs? Like there's going to be some good teams sent home. And I'm going to tell you right now that East is wide open. So any of these teams to get in,

whether it's Pittsburgh, Detroit, the Islanders, like I wouldn't want to play the Islanders. If they make it in, I wouldn't want to play Washington. I wouldn't want to play Pittsburgh. I wouldn't want to play Philly. So't want to play Pittsburgh. I wouldn't want to play Philly. So there's no easy games from here on in, boys. Amen. That's what we're talking about. That's why hockey is awesome. Now, speaking of teams in the East, go ahead, Tone. Yeah, PK, last time we

talked to you, the Florida Panthers were an absolute wagon. Like, they could not be beat. Got a little bit cold. 2-7-1 in their last 10. Is this just like a, hey, let's get to the playoffs type situation? You think they'll be okay? Or is this legitimate concern for the Florida Panthers? Panthers are dead.

Uh-oh. No. It's too warm for hockey down there anyway. That's right. Sorry about it. I can't wait for the playoffs to start for all these fans that are worried about the Florida Panthers. I am not worried about those guys at all because they're going to start eating nails

anytime now and come playoff time if you're not ready for the toughness the physicality and the mentality that those guys bring every single shift every single moment um you're going to get spanked so i'm not worried about the Florida Panthers. It's also this, too. They had a long run last season. They've had injuries. I'm not making an excuse for them, but it's long. Like, it's tough. It's a grind to get through an 82-game season and then go through the playoffs.

And remember, they had a horrible seeding last year. I know they had some good fortune at the beginning of the playoffs, but seven-game series, long road to the stanley to the stanley cup final last year for them so they got to preserve energy and save that they're waiting to get to the playoffs there's no question it's hard in game 75 76 when you know you're in the playoffs to go out and compete and remember everybody's playing for something right

now there's no easy games whether you're playing teams that are in the playoffs or not, everybody's playing for something. Guys are playing for jobs. So they're going to amp themselves up to that level that they need to be at come playoffs. I'm not worried about that. Yeah, they'll go out there. Yeah.

They'll go out there. Out there. They'll go out there. Ball loot. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They just probably need to get down to the elbow room in Fort Lauderdale and tie one on for one night for a couple nights. Best place. That's what they need to get down to the Elbow Room in Fort Lauderdale and tie one on for one night, for a couple nights.

That's what they need to do. Elbow Room's a good spot. Good spot. Great spot. Great spot. That little area there is a really good Fort Lauderdale. Real nice. Real nice. And you know what? I like it crowded in there. I don't need much

Elbow Room when I'm in there. I don't need much elbow room when I'm in there. I don't mind it a little tight. You guys bop around a little bit, PK. Oh, you get out? Oh, there. Yeah, yeah, you do. Kick the bullets around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Ty's got a question for you. PK, you mentioned how every game right now someone has something to play for. As a casual fan who really starts paying attention once the playoffs start are these the tightest playoff races we've seen in quite some time or does it typically happen like this where we're literally going down to the last game of the season on both sides uh of the nhl in terms of who's going to get in the playoffs and who's not let's let's be real about this this is the best situation that we've seen the nhl in

in a very long time and i'd be i'd be lying to say that gary betman isn't smiling ear to ear right now because as a league which league has this much parody in it you know the nfl because of the way that that sport is played you know it's always played down to the final whistle right there's so many players so many ways to impact the game, so many ways to win, so many ways to lose. You know, in hockey right now with where the game is at, all 30 teams or 32 teams are in play. So, you know, I think that for the NHL, it's a godsend to have this type of parity.

And I think we have to really appreciate it. godsend to have this type of parity. And I think we have to really appreciate it. I think also for the fans, knowing going into any season, regardless of where you're ranked or touted, you know that your team's got a chance. So who would have thought that Philly, Detroit, all these teams

would be battling it out for a playoff spot come this time. So we wouldn't have known. Torch, unbelievable. What about him? I don't like what's happening in Philly at all, but every time he speaks, I'm like, this dude. He's the best. This dude needs a microphone more often. I know you're about to get into a car. We have one last question for you

from Connor. Yeah, PK, I love that you're saying the East is wide open because last year it wasn't. The Bruins lost in the first round, but when we're talking about the West and the Oilers, they lose 5-0 to Texas Hockey last night. Are we on the brink of a McDavid threatening to leave like Nathan McKinnon did with the Colorado Avalanche a few years before they won the Cup,

or is he going to be in Edmonton forever? That's a tough one. I mean, when I look at that situation, I look at Sidney Crosby, right? And like Sidney Crosby, is he ever going to leave Pittsburgh and go somewhere else? No. Yeah, he's not. Thanks, PK.

Let's move along with the answer here. And I'm not telling him. Listen to me. I am not. I would never, ever tell a player to do that. You know, it's your career. Crosby's got cups. McDavid doesn't have any yet.

So, you know, it's different, right? Crosby's in a situation where he's got his legacy and all that stuff. With McDavid, he's got the same, but he's got no cups yet. So I think that it's going to be a personal decision to Connor and what he wants to do. But I think he really wants to make it work in Edmonton. I've never asked him about it, but I can usually tell by a player's body language and his attitude.

You know, Connor, I'm sure, wants to make it work in Edmonton. And he's loved playing there since he's been there. He's tried really hard. You can see with his effort on the ice, his body language. You know, I'm sure he gets annoyed that they haven't been able to get over the hump. But, you know, he's been loyal to that team, and I respect that. Texas hockey, good team, though. Oh, yeah.

Especially with Otter cooking in a shutout. 5-0. It's too warm in Texas for hockey. Sorry, you guys are done. President's trophy coming. You guys are done. You guys are done. Cooked.

How's Nashville? Did you do Nashville last night or no? Did I do Nashville last night? I mean, unbelievable. I've been doing Nashville the past couple nights, and I came out here for work, but there's also some time for play. I mean, what about Broadway Street? It's unbelievable. They just keep adding

bars, adding restaurants, and these places are packed. They're packed. Monday, Tuesday night, you can't get a seat in any of these places. Where'd you go? Did you go by Blake Shelton's spot? Did you go by Old Red? You know what? Yesterday I was at Kid Rock's spot, which was

unbelievable. Hell yeah. I was at Kid Rock Spot, which was unbelievable. I was at Kid Rock Spot. Were you up on the top? No, I stayed right at the bottom. I stayed at the bottom bar because they had the live music going on and I had made a couple song requests so we had some Morgan Law going on in there.

Kid Rock Spot was nice. We went there yesterday. Oh my God, if you ever want a burger And you're in Nashville You gotta go to Roberts on Broadway I had a burger last night there for the first time What time? It was two nights ago, it was unbelievable

What time? What time did you have the burger? Oh, must have been Must have been 2am Alright, I'm sure it's great I'm sure that burger is phenomenal Anything really I had a few tequilas too

It was unbelievable Cheese curds, chicken fingers Alright safe travels We appreciate you PK Thanks guys I love you See you later 2am Cheese curds, tenders

Anytime people are talking Giving food reviews After talking about being at bars Exactly Let's hear what state of mind you're in When you're potentially eating the greasiest burger of all time How'd you feel the next day? Who knows, we used to have a gyro spot in Pittsburgh

On the south side. Gyro? Hero, whatever the hell you call it. Where are you guys from? It's the same thing. Well, it's actually called Ny-Gyro. Yeah, well, there was one that was right across the street from where Nick lived down there. Sammy's.

Sammy's Mediterranean spot, yeah. You wake up the next morning, you just got cucumber taste in your mouth. Nice. Cocky sauce. Sammy's unbelievable. Cucumber's great. Must have had a great night last night.

Must have really did it with that. Yeah. I mean, we used to go hero every night. But I'm sure if you would have told me to judge foods like a day out of that, I would have said Jaro 3 a.m. Yeah, it's the best food ever. Best food of all time. No offense, Roberts.

I'm assuming your burgers are fantastic. Oh, yeah. A 2 a.m. taste bud is not necessarily the most truth-telling. As soon as PK said that he was an Elbow Room fan, you knew that that burger was late. Yeah, bingo. That's why. What time is this all happening? Elbow Room is a great spot.

That is. That is. And if you've ever been to Elbow Room, anybody else that's openly talking about Elbow Room, you're like, all right, I know how. Okay. This guy. Cool. I know what type of life you're living.

I know what type of life you're living. Hockey is awesome. Hockey's in the middle of it right now. Feels like you're in a great spot, Nick. He said Gary Bettman's smiling ear to ear. Now, we don't know if suits have the capability of getting ear to ear, but Gary Bettman and hockey seem to be on the uprise, uptick right now, Nick.

Everything's pointing upwards, Pat. The playoffs are coming down to these tight, tight races on both the East and the West. The East is a little more top, Pat. The playoffs are coming down to these tight, tight races on both the East and the West. The East is a little more top-heavy. The West is loaded from top to bottom. They got teams in every spot that can make a run. The East, you would look at players like Boston, Carolina, the Rangers, and Florida to really push forward and make a run to the Cup.

And the Pittsburgh Penguins. Massive game tonight. Got to win tonight. Washington? Yes. Washington? Yes. Washington? That used to be a big rivalry. He was mentioned in rivalries and stuff like that. Washington used to be in Pittsburgh because it was Ovi and Sid

obviously. And we know how well Sid's playing this year. Ovi had a terrible start to the season but he's back now. He's been scoring. He had like six straight games with goals. He's lighting it up again. He's back in his office just skating down the entire rink like this. Go ahead. Feed him. Feed him. Feed him. Feed him. Clap all. Boom.

If he keeps going like this, he will break Gretzky's all-time goal record next season. Which is phenomenal. Nobody thought that would get broken. And once again, for Wayne Gretzky, for those that just want to compare other athletes to Wayne Gretzky, if you were to get rid of all of his goals, he would still lead the history of the NHL in points. If you were just to get rid of his goals, which count towards the points, obviously, if you were to get rid of one half

of them, he would still be the alternative. Was that before the two assists? Was Gretzky before that, Nick? No. He's definitely getting a second assist. Was that before the two assists? Was Gretzky before that, Nick? No. No, no. He's definitely getting a second assist. Okay, okay. Just making sure.

Definitely. Because it could have been even more. That is one of the best things about hockey. Oh, yeah. It's like you just toss it to a playmate. Yeah. And then somebody goes in there and they pass it. And then there's a goal.

It's like, yeah. Second assist. Second shot that goes off somebody and in. Hockey's sweet. Ten people fighting to start it. That is fantastic. Speaking of a little bit of a fight, did you hear a little verbal j between brain and being a reporter yesterday

brandon bean had uh you know faced the music of trading stefan diggs their number one wide receiver to the houston texans in the afc south for a second round pick in next year's draft while also giving up a fifth and a sixth he addressed local media yesterday and uh they talked about the future and talked about the draft then hey if you're getting rid of all your wide receivers, what's going on with the draft? Here's what Brandon Bean had to say. And possibly draft multiple receivers this year. Well, did you hear me on Pat McAfee? I said we're going to draft one in every round. You didn't hear that?

You don't like Pat? I like Pat, but he's a pretty good guy. I appreciate him saying, you don't like? You didn't see? You don't like Pat? I appreciate that because he's probably heard about some of the wars that we've potentially been in just trying to pick and choose who's on Pat's side, who's not.

We appreciate that, Mr. Brandon Bean. And we have reached out to Brandon Bean a couple times since the trade has taken place, especially to the Houston Texans and the AFC South, and let him know that we're not necessarily thrilled, but we understand he's got to do what he's got to do. We have not heard back. But here is Brandon Bean on our show addressing the wide receiver and the draft situation to a question

from Tone Diggs. Yeah, I'm not sure if you know this or not, but you guys are taking wide receiver in the first round is what I'm being told and everyone Hey, congratulations for doing that. Just the first round? Got 11

picks. Got screwed on your compensatory pick. Luckily for you this is a deep wide receiver draft. Okay so I want to ask you kind of about the way you go about drafting. When it's when it's a deep say wide receiver or tackle draft that everyone's saying it is or whatever, are you more likely to go a different position if you don't love someone where you're picking at since there is so much depth and maybe you could take a flyer on someone in the later rounds? Or do you just always have a guy or just go by your board?

How does it work generally for you in that situation? Yeah, great question. First off, we're taking a receiver every round. Hey, good question, Tony. But in all seriousness, using receiver, it is a deep class this year. So if you're on the clock, let's just say first round. What number pick are you? 28.

So if you get your board stacked. So he did give some real answers in there, which is kind of our show. We call it comedic informative. Because there was a lot of, you had to get through some bullshit in there. Sure. With Tone saying, well, all the mocks are saying this about you. He takes a shot at there. But then you hear him say, this is a deep wide receiver draft class, though.

Which I think is him acknowledging that, hey, we've been doing a lot of research on the wide receivers. Knowing when you lose Gabe Davis, now you trade away Stevon Diggs. Josh Allen's going to need a weapon somewhere. So I did think we got a little bit from him there. Now him saying I'm drafting a wide receiver in every single round, that's probably bullshit. Probably. For sure.

But that's our program on a day-to-day basis. We did some journalism there. Feels like he likes what's coming out of the college. Yeah, definitely. And to be honest, listen to that back. I think they're going to trade up to like eight now and take a wide receiver just because, you know. That was me that said, geez, that sucks.

Exactly. That wasn't Brandon Bean. No, no, no, it wasn't. No, it wasn't. But he does go on to say, because he talked about last year, how like, hey, when it gets close and you really like a guy like they did with Kincaid and you only have to go up two or three spots, sure. Like Bean will do that.

In this situation now, and they moved up for Kincaid after paying Dawson Knox $50 million. Like now they lose their top two receivers it feels like hey if Bean likes the guy at you know 15 or even 20 like would he move up eight spots I feel like he has proven that he would and he actually said that he would I love the fact that Bean has been uh seemingly so transparent about everything he said well this isn't. Like, this is something we had to do. Now, they had to get under salary cap. They had to move a lot of contracts. They had to move.

This is a part, though, of being a wagon that has paid your quarterback. Like, things are going to have to happen around the quarterback that you're going to have to make. Decisions are going to have to be made that you're not necessarily going to love. Stephon Diggs is obviously a massive loss to that offense, especially if you look at the amount of yards. Now, Brandon Bean did point out, I don't know if Stephon Diggs is obviously a massive loss to that offense, especially if you look at the amount of yards. Now, Brandon Bean did point out, I don't know if Stephon, was he ever an All-Pro before?

I don't think he was. Here's Brandon Bean talking about Stephon Diggs. I mean, I don't remember. I don't think Steph made an All-Pro before he got here, and he made multiple and some Pro Bowls in there too. So, Brandon Bean has heard the whole conversation about Josh Allen hadn't been shit until Stephon Diggs showed up, but he's also potentially thinking like, hey,

it was good for both sides here through this all, which leads even more to the point of that's a difficult decision to make to move on, but you have to understand that teams are going to have to change. Like that's just how it's going to have to go. Defense side is going to look different. Offense side is going to look different. But if you pay 17, which they did, and you have faith in 17, you just got to assume that the next team is going to be to go. Defense aside is going to look different. Offense side is going to look different. But if you pay 17, which they did, and you have faith in 17, you just got to assume that the next

team is going to be just as good, hopefully better than the previous one. Well, and you mentioned it yesterday, talking about Brady and Manning and Rodgers and guys like that. Those types of quarterbacks create stars. You can go out and pay a guy top dollar if he's already established as one of the best guys in the league,

but the way they've paid Josh Allen and we've watched him, how good he is, they obviously believe he's one of those guys where if they draft a couple receivers this year, and they signed Curtis Samuel, I think, too, they believe that he can create a star. They don't need to be paying a guy top dollar in order for them to get production at receiver. Well, so to that point, Tom Brady, there's actually a video released from the golf tournament in which they played.aron still has his very long hair awesome looks like you're kind of

heavy where tom brady talks about quarterbacks losing wide receivers and even predicts what's happening right now in buffalo davante left him and tyreek left you patrick josh don't worry someone's gonna leave you too i love you my boy mike never left me i'll tell you yeah they're talking about losing your weapon and he said josh don, don't worry, someone's going to leave you. Stephon Diggs now gone. He did. These are decisions that get made business-wise. Tyreek, remember, trade, pay by Miami Dolphins because of money.

So if you're a great quarterback, there's a good chance you're going to have a great wide receiver, and with the new market of what wide receivers are and can get, especially if they're great, it's going to be hard to keep tag team partners together. Now Chase and Joe Burrow, seemingly going to be able to remain together going forward. T. Higgins though,

probably not going to be able to happen. And Jamar Chase, probably this next contract they're going to pay the quarterback probably. So he's probably going to have to go elsewhere. This is going to become a trend I think, which is not cool. I don't love it. But I think this is going to become a common trend as the business continues to go where it's headed for these wide receivers.

Well, and think about the team that keeps beating them in the playoffs, the Kansas City Chiefs. Like, I now do does everyone think Josh Allen is as good as Mahomes? Probably not, but I think the Bills think Josh Allen is as good as Mahomes. They paid him like he is, and they saw what Mahomes has done with these wide receivers since Tyreek has left, and they're probably thinking in

their head, why can't we do the same with Josh is it's probably what they're thinking you know and Dalton King came maybe he gets going exactly like he could be their guy and who like they might start leaning on James Cook because they get here was a dog yeah Shakir was a dog too after yeah once they fired uh Dorsey they started really running the ball and that's kind of let James Cook and that's kind of what you you know, not the Chiefs completely lean on Pacheco like that, but they give Pacheco 20 carries pretty consistently. Like, if they start

doing that with James Cook, they might not need that top-end guy. Did you guys hear about what was going on this morning? What was that? UConn couldn't get to the Final Four. Excuse me? Pete Thamel had an easier, smoother trip to Phoenix for the Final Four than to UConn Huskies. I thought he flew the plane. That's how he knew that they landed at 314. No, he did tweet out

at the exact moment that the Yukon Huskies landed in Phoenix. Yukon's plane has landed in Arizona. It's 314 local time. Pete Tamu did not sleep all night. That's why we saw him looking the way he did. He had that hat on. He was putting a water fountain behind him because it was actually hitting him with water to keep him awake

during our conversation. He's on it. Pete Damo will sniff it out. That's why he's the authority. But yeah, UConn's playing in mechanical issues. So to do, obviously, the repairing of the mechanical issues, especially on planes, that involves

checks and then further checks and everything like that, especially everything going on right now. So you can go ahead and count that plane out pretty much if it has mechanical issues. Just as somebody that's potentially had to experience this, you are completely at the mercy of mechanical issues, even if mechanical issue isn't real. It's just a sensor that happened to go off that wasn't supposed to go off. All of a sudden plane, we ain't getting in this plane and nobody wants to. I do not want to get onto a plane that has a mechanical issue that has not been checked. I don't want to go on a plane that says, it's just a faulty sensor.

Is it? Well, why was that sensor put on here then? How's that sensor making it? So that's a whole dilemma that you have. But normally it's okay. Now we've got to find a replacement plane. Where's replacement plane at? Well, replacement plane could be maybe in the next town over.

Could be three states over. also uh is there pilots with that plane well we got to find pilots for that plane and then is the plane stocked because plane has to be stocked for uconn who has how do we what do we where do we so that can be a very long process finding replacement plane piloting replacement plane getting clear for takeoff in place clear for new trip and also yukon to phoenix is a long ass way that's a long ass way so just as somebody who travels a lot on a regular basis and tried to learn more about the plane business because it's so fascinating how are they able to fly how does this work how does it even so heavy i get the wright brothers had a kite down in north carolina but how are they able to fly? How does this work? How does it even... It's so heavy. I get the Wright brothers had a kite down in North Carolina,

but how are these buildings soaring at 500 miles an hour at 40,000 feet? Well, sunny, okay, whatever. Sure, shout out. None of it makes sense to me. And I guess turbulence is a good thing, they say, because that means you're riding a different way. That's keeping you up. That's the up force.

None of it makes sense to me. That's why I'm so fascinated by it, especially with everything you learned on the nightly news about what's happening with these planes. It's like wild that it's happening. Everything instant. See ya. It's over. It is a

nightmare logistically to figure these things out, let alone to get in the path. Now I understand the NCAA is controlling this, not UConn. Now Hurley, who we just talked to yesterday, incredible interview. If you didn't get a chance to see it, I would recommend going back and checking it out. What a human. I'm a massive fan of his and his dragon underwear.

He's going to use this. Oh, yeah, for sure. You know, he said, you know, we've been saying all year, rain and repeat. And then none of the guys, I think, were all American going in. I don't think any of these guys were all American or any awards or anything like that. So I remind the guys, yeah, it's real nice now, but nobody really had it. In fact, the NCAA is trying to

screw us. They're ruining our entire schedule. He's going to utilize this as motivation, which is a good thing. And I also appreciate the fact that he was tweeting while waiting in the FBO for the next plane to come. But that is a miserable thing because they have no answers for you. Because it could be in an hour, could be three hours from now

that you're getting the plane, and you're literally at their mercy. I assume that's what UConn was experiencing last night, let alone the fact that NCAA was handling it. So now you've got a third party handling a fourth party trying to find a replacement plane. Ah, what a nightmare last night. But once again, we believe Hurley will utilize this as motivation somehow, and UConn will somehow play its best

game. Yeah, I forget about that, that the NCAA handles all the travel, and that's bullshit when you get down to the Final Four, but it is what it is. But I think UConn, I'm pretty sure it was them a couple years ago when Hurley was the coach. They were playing in the Las Vegas Regional in the NCAA Tournament, and the NCAA books all the hotels, too, and they got to

a Vegas hotel, and it had bed bugs and all this stuff, and he basically said he was like, nope, screw this. We're not staying here, and UConn had to figure out a different place to stay. So there are no strangers to this kind of stuff, but, yeah, I can't imagine. I mean, what, he said they were going to have a meal. They were supposed to leave at 7 p.m. Capital Grill, we're going to get a steak. We're going to get on this plane.

They're eating Ritz crackers at 10 o'clock at night. And I assume based on where they're practicing and stuff like that, that's all NCAA mandated too. So they can't be like, hey, okay, shoot around. We'll push it back five, six hours. I don't think it works like that. I'm pretty sure everything today goes as is. So they got shitty sleep last night and now they have to

just like hey it is what it is i assume the hotels are good it's four teams basketball now for sure at this day i assume they're in a good spot and everything like that but yes hurley will utilize all this as soon as i saw it my first thought was like patriots should just yeah send their two politics yeah how come they didn't i don't Like immediately like that. Like Robert Kraft has a lot of bad PR going on about him right now around the New England Patriots fans because that documentary that came out that said, well, Bill Belichick didn't do anything. No, none of the good stuff. That was us.

Me and my son. Tommy. Me and him. We did it all. Not Bill. And then New England Patriots fans were like, you weren't lifting any of those weights. You weren't on the sidelines. We didn't see you throw a single challenge flag

or wear one busted up sweatshirt at any of these press conferences. This seems like a bunch of bullshit. What an easy baby face move that could have been. Simple. Overnight. I thought that was going to happen. Yeah, I'm assuming that they're using them for something else because they do actually give them out to some organization sometimes.

Any resilient air up there has their own plane. It's a basketball team, right? How many? 15. That's what I was thinking. Probably like 25 total. But it has to get to... For sure. It has to be a bigger plane because it has to be able to get to Phoenix. Connecticut. It's a long-ass flight. A lot of money in Connecticut. I would have figured there would have

just been some automatic billionaire from UConn. Planes coming, yeah, because the NCAA is the one that provides it. Is that an added but can you not say it's an NILC? Yeah. Which is why people are thinking the NCAA, why are you even here? Why are you even here? Because I even thought to myself

like, who do I know up there that has a plane? Yeah. And I was almost like, hey, big baby face move right now. You just sent plane right to UConn WWE Best PR of all time That was literally my First thought was like

Nick, send UConn The WWE plane And get their ass to Phoenix Immediately The thing about it is though Most people that own planes are very busy people. Yeah. And use them.

Typically do. There's a reason they have them. That's why they have created the wealth. But like, that's what I immediately thought overnight was like, why doesn't somebody do it? I didn't get involved. Okay.

I've only met Dan Hurley for 30 minutes. Sure. Great guy. It's not my job. Somebody else is, but that was what I thought was going to take place. Instead, no,

the NCAA figured it out. Yep. And Dan Hurley at about 1 a.m. We're still, still that was what I thought was going to take place. Instead, no. The NCAA figured it out, and Dan Hurley at about 1 a.m. We're still sitting here. The guys have completely forgot about the Capitol Grill steak. A lot of guys shitting out the steak that we had. The steak was supposed to be for the entire trip over there.

Boys were supposed to have a full, nice tummy as they headed into the Final Four. Instead, we're using FBO toilets, only two of them, and they're dumping these steaks all over the place. The steaks that we bought at Capitol Grill will not be felt in Phoenix, Arizona, because we're still sitting in FBO. Wheel's still not up. That's right.

I appreciate the update. Have to have another meal, probably, on that plane. Well, that's the whole part of the whole getting the plane set up process. Like, that thing's got to, for how long it is. Yeah, diesel flight. Pilots probably need. Set up process. Like that thing's got, for how long it is. Yeah. Yeah. Diesel flight. Pilots probably need. Oh yeah. And those pilots couldn't fly during the, for how long that flight is, probably couldn't

have had any hours during the day because of duty time. Right. Which is the amount of hours that pilots are like, like there's just so much bullshit that as soon as I saw that their plane had technical, whatever issues, I was like, that's a long night. Terrible. That's a long, long night.

But they're going, hey, come on, rain and repeat. Rain and repeat. People in Alabama are telling us that we're not giving them enough love.

They made Final Four. What? We're not talking about Alabama enough. Nice story. Well, it's a football team. It's a football team.

How about our basketball team? We're in the Final Four. Now we're 11 and a half point dogs in the Final Four. It's because nobody.5-point dogs in the Final Four. It's because nobody believes in us. You guys won't talk about us. Sports books are saying that we're 11.5-point dogs. They don't have any faith.

Alabama's a bunch of dogs, though. Hey, Alabama, way to go. Yeah, congratulations. We had their coach on once a week all year. Yeah. See, that's what they were saying, though. Everybody just, it's not football season, so nobody wants to talk about Alabama because Alabama football has been this wagon.

They're saying our basketball team, though, too. What about it? What about it? What about it? You know how you silence that? How? You go out and beat UConn. Yeah.

And don't get beat by 40 like Illinois did. So that 30-0 run, I saw a couple people tweet me and say, wait, this team won by 30 or something in terms of – we're not talking about winning by 30. No. We're talking about in the course of play, wait, this team won by 30 or something. We're not talking about winning by 30. We're talking about in the course of play. For those that didn't see this, during the game, they have runs of like, they're on a

10-0 run right now, which is wild. 10-0 run is like, basketball is on fire. He's on fire. They're pulling up from half court. 15-0. Big. Huge. How is this even happening in basketball? People can score at will. At least some foul has

had to be called where they can shoot from the foul line and make one of them maybe. So then it's like a 15-1 run, but it's not 15. 20-0 run. You see that on the lower corner. It's like, whoa. This team is hot. This team sucks. 30-0 run in the middle of the game.

That can't be happening in the Elite Eight. The only reason why it does? Dragons. That's right. He wore those Dragons underwear. So he almost picked the Wolves. And they're out there bowling. That Klingon guy, Kling Kong, he said he's young.

He's still ready to go. Could have won last year. Now he's going to go this year. And I think he feels like it's just a, We got another one probably. I bet they do. And there's another one coming. And there's another one coming in there. There will never be another DJ BJ though. No. No chance. We need to appreciate DJ Burns Jr.

Not only because he's selling out restaurants down in North Carolina, but because his moxie swagger and playing style is one that... I've seen a lot of people making comparisons, Escalade from Andwon. Rest in peace to Escalade.

Rest in peace to Escalade. But yeah, that is what you think, because anytime you saw Escalade play basketball, you got a sense of joy inside. Look at that guy. That guy's bigger, stronger than everybody on the court. He's got no-look passes, sick shoes, great personality.

Teammates absolutely love him. Kind of the leader of this whole thing. And then you bring DJ BJ, and it's like similar. Yeah. Team loves him. Seems to be a guy you want to hang out with. Moxie. Has incredible moxie.

Understands he's the guy, too. He's the one walking out first here. So he understands, like, yeah, this is my team, how this whole thing goes. And DJ BJ we're gonna enjoy this entire run pal yeah I need you here DJ what you're betting on uh NC State I'm gonna keep going with the underdogs for sure but also the points are so much and you know with Edie Edie is incredible it is awesome but DJ BJ just like you said he's got too much moxie no one

else in the tournament has let's stay with stay with college basketball, shall we? How about the NIT? Championship tonight. Indiana State versus Seton Hall, 7 p.m. here at Hinkle Fieldhouse in downtown Indianapolis, Indiana, which is a far drive from where we are currently at right now. Unfortunately. Far, far drive.

A couple hours. At least. 45 minutes to an hour of traffic. With the way this week is, though, these things could not fall on a worse week. Couldn't have. You know, it's a shame. I will be watching this game. Of course. 100%.

I will have my eyes on Rob Wave. I will have my eyes on Larry Nerd. I will have my eyes on Stephon Blurry. I will have my eyes on Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and the Sycamores. Because they are favored in the NIT championship. Hey, team, you want to talk about Moxie and Swagger. This Indiana State team kind of oozes all of it. Truly.

They sell out their arena. They're going to sell out Hinkle Fieldhouse. And we have a meeting scheduled for them next week if they do pull this off. Seton Hall is nothing to sneeze at. No, good team. Indiana State puts up 100 points in some of these games. Seton Hall, though, not scared to fill the bucket as well. That's right. You know who Seton Hall beat this year?

Who's that? UConn. What? Yeah. Well, I believe their coach also led the Peacocks. Yeah, St. Peter's. Yeah, St. Peter's to a massive NCAA run a couple years ago. Oh, I remember when they were Peacock and all that. Shaheen Hall. That's right. Doug McDermott. Yeah, but has he ever

McDermott? I remember. Sorry,ermott. Yeah, but has he ever, has he ever, McDermott, I remember. Eater, sorry, Doug Eater. Okay. He had the same. Doug McDermott, though. He had the same Buffalo Wild Wings deal that Golke got this year. College basketball is sweet. Yeah.

Love it. We'll have Kelsey Plum on today in the third hour, talk about the Women's March Madness and kind of her thoughts on it all, and also the fact that the Las Vegas Aces era is over. Yeah, good reign. Sorry about it. They had a good run. I know that New York Liberty, Sabrina Yannickou was speaking to the Iowa Hawkeyes team. Brought gifts and said everything like,

hey, enjoy this. This is the last time you're going to feel this and everything like that. New York Liberty, great team. Sorry about it. It's the Fevers League. Sorry. Sorry about it. It's not on us. I think we've told Kelsey Plum this before whenever we saw her down at the All-Star game. We told the entire Las Vegas Aces team that, now did we know everybody that we were talking

to was on the Aces? No. But I feel like we are potentially putting chips on shoulders of the reigning back-to-back champs. And I love that. But Kaitlyn Clark lives with pressure. Bingo. That's what she does. She's born with a chip ingrained into her shoulder. And shoulder pads

to withstand the pressure that has been put into her shoulder. And shoulder pads. Yep. To withstand the pressure that has been put on her shoulder. A chip. A chip? Yeah. What type? Dorito. That's a great idea. Thought it was a ruffles with ridges. No, that was too hard. More chips on the ridges. I'll tell you, I'll go Pringles every time.

Same. Just in general? I love Pringles. Like the pizza Pringles? I'm going with it. Salt and vinegar? I love Pringles. That would blend into my skin. Like the pizza Pringles? Oh, man. Yep. I'm going with it. Salt and vinegar. I'm going.

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the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, a man who's going to be in WWE 2K24, AJ Hawk. Yeah. Hawker, how you doing? Doing great. How are you guys doing? Hey, not too shabby. We talked about a couple things.

You know, the big news of the day at the beginning of the show. Rangers, Devils, as soon as the puck drops to start the game, everybody's fighting. We love that. Man, I don't know everything that led up to it, why it happened exactly, but, man, I am a fan. I'm all in. Okay, so that one over there, 73 in the blue, his name's Matt Rempe.

He is really taken over by Storm. Yeah, I know that guy. I know him a little bit. Three weeks ago when the Rangers and the Devils played against each other, he had an elbow to the head of a guy. He gets a jacked head. This was a little bit of

and he's a fighter and then he fights but this was kind of in the cods, if you will. I don't know if all five guys knew they were going to fight. I think two of the Devils thought maybe we, yeah, we're not getting into this. They did not. They did not know. No, they spoke after the game, and Curtis McDermott,

who was the one who fought Matt Rempe, said he didn't know the other guys were going to join in. It was awesome to see his teammates support him and the rest of the team. Oh, so it was supposed to be one-on-one? Yes. Okay, so it was supposed to be Rempe and McDermott, who are known sluggers for their teams, if you will. And you see them before the puck is dropped, like, okay, yeah,

we're doing this. So for the entire line, just to start, how about those two Devils guys? Like, yeah, no, no, no. Alright, here we go. Gotta do it. This is why hockey is awesome. Not only this, there's a lot of other things, but this is one of the things that makes hockey such a

fantastic sport to watch at any given moment, even if the game just started. There can't be any beef, right? The game just started. There's no carryover. How about three weeks ago? Yeah, we can fight right now, if you will. Have no idea how Gary Bettman's going to respond to it,

as the ones on the far right there are throwing haymakers at each other. There's only four refs on the ice, five different fights, so one of them was going to be kind of unsanctioned out there. And it certainly got crazy. All the boys are going crazy. Rempe's asking Madison Square Garden to bring the noise. Eight of them ejected. Obviously, there's a lot going on.

But this is why, this is one of the reasons why hockey is just a sport that we have to keep hockey. Can't lose this. No. Because look what it did last night. I mean, we're leading the show with it. Last night, it took over the internet. I saw a bunch of comments on our post. Gumpy had that thing up within a matter of seconds of it happening on our Instagram.

And then we had it up on Twitter because Connor's tweet or whatever. It's like everybody that I saw, not hockey fans, were like, hockey's like that? This is hockey? I had no idea this was hockey. And there's hockey and purists that don's like that? Question mark. Are you kidding me? This is hockey? I had no idea this was hockey.

And there's hockey purists that don't love this type of thing, but there's a lot of people that don't watch a lot of hockey that are like, holy shit, had no idea this was possible, AJ. Yeah, I just worry. Like the NHL, are they okay with this? Do they want to get this out of the game? How are they going to handle it? Because you can absolutely do not take it out.

We know we can't have this every single night, but every once in a while, this is good for the game. I think it's all in the eyes of the beholder. I think Gary Bettman has gone through a couple different phases in how he views it all. There was at one point they were trying to eliminate it completely. Whenever all this, they were trying to get fighting out of the game, it's barbaric, we don't need it.

Especially with injuries to the head, why would we add even more opportunities for this?'s not good for our sport our sport is a technical game our sport is a talent game and it is it certainly is that as well but then there was a little bit of uh you know i don't want to say a lack of interest but there was a little bit of a ripple effect in that whole thing where there was an entire generation of people that like you know hated that particular aspect of it all. Then they tried to wheel it back a little bit. Whenever we talked to him at the beginning of the season,

he was like, we just don't want this staged fighting. If it happens naturally, we're cool with it. If hockey players want to police their own game, a guy gets a little crazy, you can't do that to my friend. You want to go brawl with a guy? Cool, but we can't be having a staged fighting. This was definitely a staged fight, but it was also a, hockey policing each other there.

So I will be excited to see how Gary Bettman handles this. This is a real – Nick, do we have a heads-up on when Gary will talk about this? What is normally the protocol for how this whole thing goes? I mean, maybe he issues a statement, but normally this is just – I don't want to say swept under the rug, but not really even blinked at in terms of publicly speaking. I'm sure they're talking about it in league offices, but they don't come out and

do a press conference or anything about it. Certainly not. Gary told us that he watches the show every once in a while. Gary, great time to babyface right now. You want to put a statement out. Great time to babyface right now. Hey, sometimes this type of stuff happens in hockey. We don't love it. We don't condone it, but this is just something whenever you disrespect or feel like somebody has been disrespected hockey players police the game

themselves it's one of the great parts of our sport we don't want this happening all the time but it is one of the great parts of our sport we carry on here's the suspensions and then we and then we move along it is a good time to potentially babyface a little bit will they even get suspended i don't know right i hope not hope not. No, I doubt it. With the game misconducts they handed out, that was pretty much handled in the game. So I don't think there'll be any supplemental stuff. Great time to babyface then. Yes.

If you don't have to hand out any more discipline. Yeah. Great time to be like, hey, part of our game. Don't love it. Let's move forward. And everybody be like, Commissioner is saying what? And they got all these old school hockey people where they're like, we can't be condoning this. Because remember, a normal fighting major is five minutes,

and then you're back in the game. These guys all got tossed from the game two seconds into the game. So that is essentially a one-game suspension in and of itself. Okay. So, hey, we love it. Good for hockey. Hockey's awesome. Yeah, hell yeah.

Love you, hockey. It's not going to happen in the playoffs, though. They know they don't do this stuff in the playoffs anyway. Yeah, exactly. Like, guys aren't going to risk getting penalties in the playoffs, though. They know they don't do this stuff in the playoffs anyway. Yeah, exactly. Guys aren't going to risk getting penalties in the playoffs because if you have a man in the box, that is quite a disadvantage, and we're trying to win games, not

lose games, because if we win, more money for everybody and better life for everybody. So it has its place, I believe, in hockey as a hockey fan, and I hope it stays. And P.K. Saban, who's been hammering tequila down in nashville for the last three days he went on a campaign trail about how this is good for the game

and this is awesome i hope there's a lot of people that feel that way aj yeah i would imagine like when you say old school hockey fans may not be a fan i thought old school hockey fans would be the people that are pushing this and saying hey we need the guys to police the game i guess i should say purists purists it's like the hockey purists. The hockey nerds? What do you mean? Analytics? Yeah, the nerds. Analytics, maybe? No, I don't know about the analytics people. I don't know where they stand. Analytics people are on everybody's side.

But like the, you know, whenever The high horses. The purists. Like, hey, our game is above this now. Like, our game is this. Yeah, okay. Like, they didn't like when sky cam came in for those stadium series games i remember texting as soon as i saw it the first time how many 10 years ago whatever it was i remember texting nick and being like yes this as a person that was never able to play ice hockey because i couldn't skate time of it and probably how expensive the whole thing is whenever i felt like I was going down with the boys,

it made me see hockey a lot differently. It's like, okay, with the passing going on, this is brilliant. They need to get these in the arena. We need to get this in the arena and everything. And then you look on the internet, and you've got all these hockey appearances. This is disgusting. This is not how hockey is supposed to be viewed. We've already figured it out.

No change. They don't want anything to ever change from how it actually was. So, yeah, the glowing puck or the puck with the streak on it, they really hated that one. supposed to be viewed. We've already figured it out. No change. They don't want anything to ever change from how it actually was. The glowing puck or the puck with the streak on it, they really hated that one. Shout out Fox for that one. It was a great try. I thought it was good. I think, just like anything, if you make

that a little bit smaller, as opposed to as cartoony, if you make that actually, it would help. Oh, yeah. I think it would benefit a lot of people. You know, because even when you're

playing video games where you're looking at someone on screen, they'll be like, you want a tail on this. Yep, yes. So you can kind of see where it's at.

If they were able to make a smaller, you know, more koothy, koothy tail. Much more kooth. Kooth. More kooth on there.

I think people would love it, but instead what happened was it was too big too cartoony is a video game it's disrespecting our game we need it out here it's like well i don't think it's that bad of an idea i think it's actually a good idea but nick those people are in every sport that's just how yeah absolutely there's you need those people in the sports i think you need those fans as well because they're the ones that are like backbone of fan community in their eyes at least yeah absolutely, absolutely. And I think Diggs kind of hit it on the head.

A lot of it is the analytics community because they are really driving the force behind the skill of the game, the speed of the game, and things like that. It's the analytics community that's trying to do the hip drop tackle. Yeah, we know. What's the analytics guy in NHL? I love analytics. Yeah, what do they do?

Has it gotten there? I love analytics. Oh, they got tons of analytics guy in NHL? I love analytics. Has it gotten there? I love analytics. They got tons of analytics in the NHL. Listen, analytics people, we're not analytics people, but we utilize stats. So I guess that makes us analytics people. Stat that. Hashtag.

Brandon Staley was their king, right? He's no longer in the NFL. He's been fired. Potential game management situations being the reasoning for why he is fired, the game management situations have been dictated online by an analytics community that, in theory, all makes sense. For sure. Like, hey, that dealer's got a six out there.

I'm loading up. Yep. out there. I'm loading up. Yep. Every time. I am loading up. Depends who you are, I guess. Well, let's just, for the. In this argument. Six is out there.

In theory, statistically. The book. This is what, AJ, will you mute his mic? Mute this guy's mic. In theory, statistically, supposed to go for the entire time. Sure. So you can get away with saying, hey, I just put all my money, my mortgage on the table. But like in real life, there's a potential five under there. Yes. And then there's a 10 coming and then your mortgage is gone. And then that's just one hand in a stat that is thousands, billions, and millions of hands deep.

That's kind of what happened with Brandon Staley. Hey, there's a 62% chance here that you're going to be able to get this. Those are great odds. Would you not take some 2% odds on anything? In theory, it's great, but there is a 38% chance there this is not going to work. And what's going to happen? Oh, you're fired. Yeah.

And that's the thing. AJ, okay, I was trying to get to the analytics community there is what I was trying to do in, you know, book. And not everybody's doing it, of course. You're adding good points there. But as I was piecing it together, that is the analytics community in a nutshell. Like, yes, in theory, everything is good. But in real life, it's not, you know. And we love analytics.

But there also has to be a little bit of a common sense, logical reality conversation taking place as well. And for fighting common sense, reality, logic of game, more people tuning in to game. What's that mean? More money coming to game. What's that mean more money coming to game what's that mean better helmets maybe yeah sure better technology which is maybe safer for the brains in the long run and that's where the human element could come in as opposed to just the numbers aj i apologize for cutting you off there oh no no i was stepping all over you that's on me but what i'm saying like the analytic stuff do they ever i just feel like it's just one

piece of the puzzle it's one tool in your tool belt as coaches will say to where no it's not the be all end all it's not black and white just like that it's something you take into account and it helps inform you of what decision you're going to make but it's not like exact hey this exactly what we're doing in every single situation need analytics and decisions i think you should learn from things that have happened in the past but there are people that are just like strictly due to the analytics this needs to happen it's like was it a hundred to nothing yes yeah i don't want to hear it then i this is not what we're just basing this thing off of but that's where we live in and it's good that there's more nerds and that that's a compliment. That is not a, I wish I was a nerd.

I hope my daughter's a nerd. This is not a nod. Yeah, this is not 1990. Okay. This is not, nerd is not like, this is a good thing to be a nerd. You want to be a geek. My daughter, I hope is a nerd. I'm happy that the nerds are in sports.

Like it is good that the nerds have come into the sports world, found a lane, make sports better. Like, it is good that the nerds have come into the sports world, found a lane, make sports better. But then also on the other side, it's like you're not, that's not just like the Constitution. You don't have every answer. Yeah, that is not how this whole thing goes. You know, it's like we're in this thing together, and we need fighting in hockey.

So analytics people, please, for the love of God, let's find some stats about hockey being good too. You can go look at our tweet and our post last night and utilize those stats potentially about growth of the game and developing the game and evolving the game. Those stats matter as well, especially when you're talking about a business. Even though I know players' health is good, this might lead to better players' health with more eyes on the game.

Yeah, and it looks, people, like you should also take into account, hey, the Rangers are 1-0 due to the fact that they have fought right off the game. Yeah, and it looks, people, like, you should also take into account, hey, the Rangers are, you know, 1-0 due to the fact that they have fought right off the bat. So maybe they fight off the bat every single game, you know? But for the NFL, like you mentioned, Belichick and Ernie Adams, like, there's that situation, and I don't know if they go into it in the

dynasty, but they do go into it in one of those, like, E60 moments with the Seattle versus New England Super Bowl where at the end of the game, people are telling Belichick because the analytics, hey, call a timeout here. We should get settled, kind of figure out what we're going to do. And instead, Bill is feeling out the game, watching Pete Carroll

to see what he's doing as he's calling his own play, sending out his own offense. And instead of calling a timeout, he doesn't. The play goes on as the interception to Malcolm Butler. So there is that feel-out part of it that doesn't get taken into account with those stats ever. Let's not lose, okay,

fighting. No. No. Because we find some stats that say no good. We can find stats that say real good. Exactly. You know, there's all that type of stuff. And let's just keep it in the game. My bad. You see Ruppert? Ruppert got interviewed. He and Jody Shelley were in the crowd and they went up after all

the fights happened and they interviewed both of them, talking about how great it was for the game and how great the fighting was. I did not see that. That happened live during game? WWE superstar Jackie Redman. She was the one interviewing both of them. Oh, really? Yeah. Jody Shelley fought here. He was in Columbus and fought for the Blue Jackets forever. Has a billion penalty minutes.

He's the man I really like to do. And all of a sudden, he pops up with Ruffer, and they both are saying, hey, yeah, this is good. We need this. I love it. The other big conversation of the day, A.J. Hawk, is that maybe there's a league that's going to come together and overtake the NCAA and kind of put an end to all the chaos and madness

that is college sports right now. College sports tomorrow, I believe, is the name of the group. Brian? Rolop. Rolop. Rolop. Not how it's spelled. Rolop.

Rolop. Rolop, who's the right-hand man for Roger Goodell in the NFL, runs the business side of this entire thing. He is on the list of people that are kind of pushing this Super League. Gordon Gee, who's the president of West Virginia, is on board for this entire thing. He is on the list of people that are kind of pushing this Super League. Gordon Gee, who's the president of West Virginia, is on board for this entire thing. And we called Pete Tham on the first hour, AJ, and we said, hey, how optimistic are you about this potentially taking place? Then he said, well, you know, I do think that the future of college football is certainly

a question mark. Two years from now, nobody knows what the hell it's going to look like. With that being said, I don't think you're just going to be able to tell Greg Sankey, thanks, you're done. I don't think you're going to be able to say, Tiny Petiti, see, okay, you're done. I don't think you're going to be able to say to ESPN, Fox, CBS, and Peacock, hey, all those deals you signed with all these, gone. There's just so much that is going to have to get kind of sorted for this to get figured out.

But what Pete was basically saying is this is one particular group's answer in their eyes on how to fix the future, and there's going to be more. And I'm excited to see what comes out of the woodwork and potentially what the answer actually is. Hey, Jay Hawk. Yeah, so Pete, he doesn't think this is going to be like this one's going to get through and figured out right away. out of the woodwork and potentially what the answer actually is aj hawk yeah so pete i i he doesn't think this is going to be like this one's going to get through and figure it out right away does he uh no pete said yeah pete was not very optimistic about it he said i wouldn't be six weeks ago he said and i uh a lot of hurt a lot of this one's going to be tough yeah this one's

going to be tough is how he explained it aj just the amount of you laying out just a few of the things like a few of the obstacles that you're going to face yeah is how he explained it, AJ. Just the amount of you laying out just a few of the things, like a few of the obstacles that you're going to face. Yeah, it's a good idea. It needs to happen probably. It will eventually happen. I don't know when that is because to me it just seems like, okay, yeah, here we go.

Let's do this. All right, where do we start? Where do you even start to try to figure this out? I don't know. So you've got to meet with the money first, I think. The money is probably what you need to meet with first. So you've got to go to the networks probably. Yes yes and then if you were to get the networks approval then you got to go to the conferences and then you got to go to what every school in the conference because

you're not just negotiating with the conference because there's going to be some schools in some conferences that are going to say well we're not the same as yeah yeah if we're going to a professional league and you're buying our rights pretty much like like we don't cost the same as Illinois does. We don't cost the same as Northwestern does. We're Ohio State. So then you've got to go to the schools as well. And then somebody's going to have to stop by the NCAA in Indianapolis and tell them they're not worth a damn anymore.

And then somebody's going to have to figure out what's going on with all the other sports. Do the other sports just remain the same in all the other schools? Because it says college sports tomorrow, but what if the sport doesn't make money? Are you still going to treat it like a professional league? I didn't even think about that. I didn't even think about the other sports when you, I'm thinking strictly football, but yeah. Yes, yep. A lot of us did that, and then it got thrown, you know,

kind of forced the dude on the back end, because that's a real ripple effect that comes from this. It's like, the amount of humans involved, the amount of egos involved, the amount of money involved involved, the amount of money involved, and the amount of different ideas that are probably involved right now, this can be tough to sort.

That's why every time we talk about the college transfer portal and the NIL deal and being like, hey, we need guardrails. We still want the players to make money. Obviously, we're on that side, have been on that side forever, but there's a lot of shit to figure out. And then I always say, we don't have the answer.

No. I don't know what the answer is. I have no idea. Because whenever you think, like, Roger Goodell, whenever you hear this Brian Rollup guy's name, you're like, well, is Roger Goodell involved? And then we reach out and we hear, no, Roger Goodell is not involved. This is Brian Rollup involved.

It's like, okay, do you guys have, like, Jeff Bezos involved? Yep. Do you have, like, Tim Cook involved? Do you have, like, Bob bezos involved yep do you have like tim cook involved do you have like bob eiger involved do you have like nick khan involved do you have like the the people that are going to be able to figure this out ari emmanuel yeah do you have 13 billion dollar evaluation valuation evaluation. That's a little payday. Anyways, we move on. You're going to have to have a very good business person that is going to

be running this, but the business person that, the way you're going to have to sell this is going to be like, hey, you're going to have to give up everything you're doing right now to do what? Wrangle complete chaos. Oh, okay. That sounds great. Let me do that. Well, who do I got to, what do we got chaos oh okay that sounds great let me do that well who do i gotta what do we got to figure out everything every school every tv like nobody's gonna want to

do that i have no idea how it gets fixed and pete pete damo says that two years from now looks different than right now i don't know because for it to look different that means somebody would have to yeah come in and figure it. And to figure it out is a task that I'm not sure many people are, A, suited to figure it out, and if they are suited to figure it out, do they have time in their life to go figure it out? I don't know. I genuinely

don't have high hopes that anything's different for the next few years. No, and you talked about the public aspect of the fans. If this is greeted by fans just going apeshit and being like, we hate this, we hate this, then that obviously affects things. People are just starting to kind of, I guess we'll see once this season

starts, but people are just starting to come around on the, hey, there's going to be 20 teams in the Big Ten this year. The SEC is expanding. All the legwork and all the work they had to do for USC and Oregon and all these schools to come to the work they had to do for USC and Oregon and all these schools to come to the Big Ten?

Do you think the commissioners and the presidents of these universities are going to be like, all right, well, we've just been getting murdered and raked over the coals for the last however many years trying to figure this out. Let's just say, you know what, screw it. We're going to throw all this stuff away, and we're going to go tackle this new venture. It's going to be several years because you would think that these conferences

want to see what the expansion process is like over the next few years and see how that changes everything. Good luck out there, though. Hey, smart people. Figure it out. Okay, as we transition away from the future of college sports, although college sports are awesome right now. March Madness, men's and women's, breaking all records in viewership.

College football, breaking all viewership in records. I assume college hockey that we watched, the Frozen, breaking all records. Lacrosse is probably breaking. College sports is booming, which is why it's so enticing for all these people to try to figure it out. For sure. But I do have a funny fear that I don't know who's going to be able to make any changes for a while. I think we're going to be in a state of chaos for a good bit here. Yeah.

Speaking of chaos, last week we debuted a segment, and there certainly was some. A little bit. was some. A little bit. But we think it's only right that if we have access to this one particular human, we'd be rude to society if we didn't display that this human exists. Yep.

We were given a tour of a mill just a few weeks back. While walking through the mill, we met a man who was electric. Yeah. This guy was on top of it. He found me first. He filled my ear with like a thousand different

theories and ideas on sports. Ty came next, talked about everything he would do to fix the Big Ten in Iowa. Then Tone Diggs walks by. He cracks a couple Italian jokes. A couple Italian jokes, but then boom, he's got it all. What we realized after talking to him is this guy does get information in this mill.

Yeah. But he never gets the full story, simply. But that's what our job is. That's right. To kind of put the pieces of the puzzle into place that he doesn't have. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go back to the rumor mill with Donnie Dondon. Gentlemen, good to see you again.

How are we? Hey, Donnie Dondon, great to see to see you again. How are we? Hey, Donnie Dondon, great to see you. Nips to see you, pal. You look fantastic, genuinely. I mean, what do you want me to do? You know, when I was growing up, my nips were so hard they thought I could breastfeed. I told them, no, I can't breastfeed. I just have hard nips.

Sorry about it. Yeah, last week you were on, you looked the exact same. Nips looked the exact same as well. I think this is just you. Certainly saw some complaints, but hey, this guy's in the mill. What do you want from us, right? Exactly. I don't have the whole story. You already said it. You guys get the whole story. What I get are the

rumors and there are a lot of rumors in the mill. What do you want from me? Like what? Like what? What are you hearing this week, Donnie Don? Well, this week we do have a Kim Mulkey update. T's and P's to the LSU squad. They are no longer in the tournaments. Rumor has it Kim Mulkey will be T's and P's to the LSU squad. They are no longer in the tournaments. Rumor has it Kim Mulkey will be doing a plethora of things this offseason.

Of course, there's golf. There is, you know, playing basketball. Movies. She will be watching movies. She won't be watching some films. Philadelphia. Milk. Brokeback Mountain.

She allegedly, rumor has it, does not want to see those anymore. I didn't hear a single film critic conversation from Kim Mulgaver. Well, so funny. Petey Pete Pete is our movie guy, and he told me that those specific ones she does not want on her television. I don't know. I have no idea what he's talking about. To be completely fair, I just know that's the rumor,

and that's what I am here. Once again, here we go. Back into the rumor mill with a bunch of B. Those are good movies. Great movies. They won awards. Bunch of Oscars out of those. Anyways, what else you hearing down there, pal?

Well, on the men's side of the tournament, Pat, Zach Eadie, we found out he does not have ED this weekend, actually. Foxy, I believe there's an audio clip that you have back there. Can you run it, please? I got a boner. What'd he say? Why don't you run that again? I got a boner. Did you hear that? No, one more time. I got a boner. I did hear that, I think.

Did you hear that, Donnie? I did hear that, yeah. Zach Eadie, 7-4, a lot of think. Did you hear that, Donnie? I did hear that, yeah. Zach, 87-4, a lot of blood. You know where that blood goes after they win? Right to his penis. Rumor has it that the NCAA actually has an ED rule that Zach Eadie, the reason he had a boner immediately after the game was because of the fact that the NCAA told him, hey, Zach, you can't have a boner during the game

because when you're playing defense, the boner sometimes, the boner kind of slips around players. Allegedly, there's a hook. I don't know anything about it. But apparently, it can slip around players, poke the ball out, and you're not allowed to get steals with your baby maker these days, which they should maybe change the rules. But that's just Zach Eadie. You know, a lot of people are saying that his dick's so big it has an elbow.

I don't even know what that means, how that would work. It kind of reminisces into Jaden Daniels' elbow, if you will. If you see, basically if you were to take Jaden Daniels from his shoulder to the tip of that elbow, just imagine the tip of a penis, if you will.

It's kind of like Zach Eadie. We heard that, and I don't think the tip of a penis. That's kind of like Zach Eden. We heard that. I don't think the NCAA made a rule. Rumor has it, no boners for Zach Eden allowed while he's playing basketball. That's why after, I got a boner, he was so good. Donnie, don't.

We heard it. I don't think any of that's right. That's why actually rumor has it. That's why he didn't get on the ladder. He just, kind of like a tripod, he just leaned forward. He leaned forward, and then he had a little extra inches. Yeah, what else are you hearing down there, Donnie? Don, I don't think you've been right yet. I would disagree.

I'm definitely right on this one, Pat. Kind of crazy story coming out of the Masters. Tiger Woods, he had to bring 10 to 15 how do you say, flashlights to Augusta because he is not going to be having sex during his time there. No sex till after the Masters is just the rumor right now.

Yep, Foxy, I believe you have a little, yeah, here it is. See? Tiger Woods, preparations, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. he's not even having sex which is i mean respect to tiger i have heard though sources are telling me uh a rumor has it magic city in atlanta is very prepared for friday say tiger's not feeling good because of the fact and maybe he's not playing well and he says you know what i can't do this anymore uh magic city uh they have already made the accommodations.

It has been rented out. And actually, funny enough, a guy you had on your show, I believe, Pick Subbin, he said Elbow Room in Fort Lauderdale and that place also making accommodations in case Tiger wants to go back there. It says PK, PK, PK. That's not a strip club. P.K. Okay, I thought it was Pick Subbin. That's not a strip club. P.K. Okay, I thought it was Picksubin.

That's what I was told. I apologize. Elbow room. Also, it's going to be there if Tiger doesn't want the full-match city. Elbow room is not one of those rooms. Hey, when Tiger's there, you know the elbow we just showed? Zach Eadie's elbow? Yeah. It's that kind of elbow okay well what i'm thinking is

he's just focused i don't think anything you said about magic city okay all right okay anything else you're hearing down there donnie don don this was a sad one pat um rumor has it uh the the cults are being murdered like racehorses right now, and we don't like that one bit. This is just – What? Racehorses? Yeah, it's bad.

This is the football news I've been told from Freddie. Fred, Fred, yep, Freddie told me. He said, and I believe he told me there was a guy, not Tone Diggs, S. Diggs is going to the Texans, and the Texans, which is a team in Dallas like real cowboys, they're going to shoot the Colts players in the head, all 53 of them. They're going to cut them down at their knees, and they're going to execute them on site. Donnie, Donnie, Donnie.

That's what I'm here for. That's what Freddie told me. Freddie Fredford. Foxy. Freddie Fredford. Thank you. Someone's listening. Foxy, there it is.

Look at this. This guy right here. Apparently he catches balls even though he likes wearing shin pads. Joe Mixon. Are you kidding me? I know that Someone's listening. Yeah, there it is. Look at this. This guy right here, apparently he catches balls even though he likes wearing shin pads. Joe Mixon. Are you kidding me? I know that guy's name. He mixes it up. And then the guy with the P next to his name.

I think that stands for player because Tommy Townsend. I know what Tommy Townsend. He's just as good as Tommy Townsend. Yeah, the Colts, I think what happened was I said, oh, we're dead because the Houston Texans have gotten so much better and they won the AFC South last year. They're not actually – that's not happening, Donnie Don. Rumor has it they are murdering 53 people in Indianapolis. What else do you have?

That's not true. All right, that's what I heard. Another one. You know, this I don't know. There's a quarterback who goes by Mac. His real name is McCorkle. Allegedly, rumor has it, this I don't know. There's a quarterback who goes by Mac. His real name is McCorkle. Allegedly, rumor has it, this guy can rap, which I saw him eating cookies and milk on TikTok for three years

while he was playing at a certain place, and now all of a sudden this guy can rap. I believe, Foxy, you have it for us, please. That sounds fly. What's up, everybody? It's Mac Jones, and this is my get to know. Hell yeah. Is that good?

No Just tell me Shut up, don't I don't really have too many, but I mean, I golf a little bit I like to go fishing, like to be on the beach Like to do a little bit of rapping Oh my god Cut, I'm just playing

I do though, I do I got a couple songs, but nobody knows about it. So I'm letting the world know that I'm not in New England. What's that all about, Donnie Donda? He's a rapper. I didn't know he was a rapper. He's very happy, too. Yeah, he is very happy.

And a lot of people are going to say, oh, he raps now because he's not in New England. And Bill Belichick, I understand that. I regret to inform you guys that rumor has it he wasn't comfortable rapping in New England and Bill Belichick. I understand that. I regret to inform you guys that rumor has it he wasn't comfortable wrapping in New England because Bob Kraft's really good friends with Meek Mill and Pete Diddy. He didn't want to get signed. He didn't want to get signed by a label.

He's been seeing what's going on. He gets down to Jacksonville. Finally, he can kind of let his wings expand a little. Which, I mean, out of respect for Matt, I'm glad for him. I'm more happy that now he doesn't have to go through the Diddy test, which, all right, we heard what that was about. What was that block face?

I don't even know who this other guy is. But you know what I'm talking about when it comes to Diddy. All right, well, there's certainly a lot of things on the Internet, and I'm sitting down there at the rumor mill they are certainly escalating the story. At the rumor mill, they're saying there's a whole new meaning to OBJ. That's just what they told me. I don't know anything about it. Odell Beckham Jr. is Indianapolis Colt, hopefully.

I don't see how that goes. Maybe the Patriots. Yeah, that's OBJ forever is Odell Beckham Jr. That is who I'm talking about. What else are you hearing, Donnie? Don, Don? Well, it's actually a monumental day at the Rumor Mill. Everyone's really, really happy.

Rumor has it, finally, Dan Orlovsky got fired. I couldn't tell you. What? When this news came through the wire, when the mill started hearing that Orlovsky got fired, even the foreman, Frankie Forfour, even he was like, hey, we're not working today. Orlovsky got fired. All bets are off.

He didn't get fired. He farted. Farted. Farted. Really? Yeah. Yeah, he's not fired. Still here.

Still here. Really loud Yeah. Yeah, he's on fire. Still here. Still what he is. It was loud. Really loud. What am I? Paulie, Paul, Paul standing next to 18 different strippers. It's strip strips. And now you're telling. Paulie!

Paulie's still here! Yeah. Yeah. He just. He farted. He didn't get fired. He farted. Yeah.

Here's the clip actually, Donnie. Don, Don. You got the clip of him getting farted?. He farted. Here's the clip, actually, Donnie. Don, Don. You got the clip of him getting farted? No, farted. It's impossible to be at the top at both of those, essentially. You hear that, Donnie? He farted. He didn't get fired.

You guys call that a fart? You should see what's firing off at the rumor mill. I start firing. Yeah, you're firing a lot. Thank you so much, Donnie. Fire on, fire on. All right, all right. Jeez, jeez, jeez. Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much. Come on. Fire on, fire on. All right, all right. Jeez.

Jeez. Jeez. Yeah, yeah. He's still there. He's still there. Orlovsky didn't deserve that. No, he didn't. We have to reiterate the fact that some of those things are based on truth, a lot of it not.

Sure. And that's the rumor mill. You know, that is the rumor mill. And you guys see it. As soon as we talked to Donnie Dondon the first time, we said, that guy's got to get on the team mill That is the rumor mill And you guys see it As soon as we talk to Donnie Don Don the first time We say that guy's got to get on the team That's my gospel And AJ I'll tell you

I don't know how many Don Don appearances We're going to be able to have But every time he pops on that screen With those nipples and that hard hat I get jacked up AJ Just a matter of time before some big network Hires him to be their primetime news anchor. Yeah, you're right.

I didn't even think about him potentially moving into the political realm. It'd be great. The election's coming up, yeah. Donnie Dondon's going to get plucked out of that mill if he keeps doing what he's doing. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, on a completely different note, is a Hall of Famer. A teammate of mine that I've been on the record both on this show today and in the past saying one of the greatest teammates of all time. Absolute superstar who never forgot that you can be humble and relatable to everybody on the roster.

Ladies and gentlemen, Hall of Famer out of Syracuse University, Dwight Freeney. Yeah! Dwight. Hey, sorry about the rumor mill. Sorry about the rumor mill there. I think you just caught the tail end of it. A lot going on, Dwight Freeney. Certainly do, Dwight. Where are you at? You golfing right now? I know you're a big-time golfer, obviously. Man, listen. I just got off the course. Listen, I probably set the course record for balls in the water on 18. Okay.

It was absolutely terrible. I was donating balls left and right like I was, I don't know, giving to the Salvation Army. I was like, here, you get a ball. You get a ball. It was terrible. It was terrible. Very nice of you to do that.

Some scuba golfer will get in there and dig all those up. So we had a good round going into 18, then it was ruined? Absolutely not. I don't even know why I even showed up that day, to be quite honest with you. It's one of those days. Now listen, if I was a professional, I'd be out there being professional. I'm an amateur. I'm a hack.

And this is what I do. Good day, bad day. It is what it is. You play a lot, though. I mean, hey, Franny, you're out there a lot, aren't you? We should be getting good at some point, right? You would think. You would think. Okay. Well, let's talk about the thing that you're great at, not just getting good at.

Whenever I watched you play football, and I think this is everybody's experiencing you for the first time, it was like a very natural reaction to be like, so explosive, so powerful, and seemingly playing chess against the person that he's battling against the whole time. You also looked out for everybody else on the team, including the rest of the D-line, obviously. When you get your name called and you finally find out that you're going into the Hall of Fame, was there any feelings? Was this something that you knew was coming inevitably? Did you get overwhelmed with emotion?

What were your thoughts when you found out that you finally made it in after being told to wait a little bit? And everybody that's ever played alongside you or watched you play football knew this day was coming, so congratulations. Man, I appreciate it. You know, Pat, no matter how you try to prepare yourself

emotionally, no matter how you think it's going to go, nothing compares to when you actually hear someone tell you that you're going to be in a football hall of fame, you know, and obviously, you know, being a finalist a year prior, I knew I was going to be in the conversation at some point. But, you know, you got guys like Jared Allen who deserves to be in and is still waiting. You know, Reggie Wayne, still waiting. So you don't really know.

You know, I just knew this year, after last year, I was going to put the blinders on. I was like, look, I only like to worry about things I can control for the most part. But this one is a hard one not to be so connected to. So I think I did a pretty good job, you know, and I was really surprised when the door opened and I saw Coach Dungy sitting right there and telling me,

you know, look, Dwight, you're in a Hall of Fame. It was absolutely amazing. There's certain times in your life where time kind of stands still. And I would say that moment for me, like you can hear a pin drop. It was one memory that I'll never forget. It was a beautiful video to watch too. It was shared on social and Tony Dungy being the guy to inform you is a beautiful thing.

I could imagine. And I liked the fact that you said, I'm going to put my blinders on. I'm going to go shoot 110 on a golf course every single day. I'm not even going to think. 111. It's awesome. Go ahead, AJ. Dwight, I'm curious about your progression from when you got in the league until the end.

When you came into the NFL, were you already a student of the game and a student of pass rushing and how a team might try to block you and everything? I know, at least later on in your career, you absolutely seem like a scientist, how you would dissect offenses and blocking schemes and what you wanted to do. Was that something you learned along the way, or did you come in with that? Well, I mean, look, when you're young, you're done. It just is what it is. It's just part of the recipe.

You always want to match up your experience and your knowledge with your speed and explosiveness or whatever. And it never really matches up until later, you know. So when I first got in, I was just fast, running around the corner. It ain't no much. But, you know, I was very blessed to have a great coach named John Turling. John Turling, I think, is a Hall of Fame. He has rest in peace, Hall of Fame, defensive line coach, coached a lot of greats.

And he sat me down, taught me the right way to kind of study the game. And that's, you know, what helped me, you know, my first, second year, I was learning from him who he's been a player and a coach for so many years. So he kind of caught me up to speed pretty quickly on you know how you should look at it out you know from a protection standpoint how this tackle is setting what do you need to do so if it wasn't for JT I know I wouldn't be where I am today hell yeah JT rest in peace dude you did good and to his family that's listening or watching what a legend now and they knew that JT was the one that told me that in preseason games, I need to punt the ball and get the fuck off the field.

That's the exact words. Obviously, that's getting muted on ESPN, but on YouTube, ESPN Plus, that was the real deal. I got blindsided. We were punting against somebody in the preseason. I punted the ball. Big return came. Guy looping around, shoulder right into my chest, like right into my chest.

And I have that whole thing happen. So I got hit the ground a little bit. And then I come walking off the field, still can't breathe. I sit down on the defensive side of the bench, you know, because that's open then because the defense on the field, we just gave up horrible field position. And JT comes over, big dude, monster of a man, huge man. He comes over.

This is the first time, like, he has talked to me, and he sits down next to me, and he gives me the kid treatment, you know. And he goes, if it's the preseason, you punt the ball, and you get the fuck off the field. And I said, he said, because they're going to score right now, and nobody cares. Guess who cares? Nobody cares.

Okay. So you punt the ball and you get off the field. And if you don't, we will have problems. Okay. And I was like, you know, like losing my breath. And then he patted me on my leg so hard. And then he used my leg to get up. He used my leg to get up and then he walked away.

And it was like, from that moment forward, I felt like we were friends almost. And then you have a couple of beers with the guy he was like the greatest the greatest and i don't think anybody ever really talks about him much d i really don't think that's okay absolutely not the question i have for you is did you get treatment on your leg after he put his weight franny come on your leg franny i did did have a bruise from the middle of the quad all the way down to the knee. Yeah, absolutely.

Yeah, he was a legend. That team you guys had was so – I got to catch the tail end of it, obviously. Just the chemistry and the group of people was so magical, and obviously you're one of the leaders, always have been. Tone's got one of the questions for you. Yeah, Dwight, have you talked to Jim Ursa yet about your Hall of Fame gift?

Because I'm not sure if you know he bought Edrin James a phantom which I believe is the price tag on that is is not it's not cheap so I don't know if it's the same deal and he also left what money in yeah I don't know if the same deal for all colts that go into the hall have you talked to Jim about that yet I need to talk to him okay I need to talk to him. Okay, I need to talk to him. You know, Jim loves us. That's one thing I would say about Jim is he loves us to death. We love him. He would do anything, anything for us. Agreed.

That might be a conversation I need to have. Yeah, you should. Absolutely. Especially now. You know, I probably love hearing from you. But then also, like, oh, Free, I got i got this 900 000 car on back order right now it's supposed to be coming to your golf course yeah but put it down by the 18th hole little uh little prize for whenever you shoot a 15 on 18 ty's got a question for you dwight

yeah dwight with your skill set obviously that would have translated to any time in the nfl but do you think it would have been more difficult to have the kind of career you had with today's rules? Now we're seeing guys who they get a clean hit on the quarterback and it's roughing and all these different ways that they're kind of trying to diminish how the defense plays. Do you ever kind of look back and say like, oh, thank God I played in the era I did and I'm not playing right now? Absolutely. Every game I sit there and say, I retired at the perfect time. For me, look, when you get around that offensive tackle, you know,

and I really implore the NFL to have more guys that play defensive line in those meetings so they can really understand how hard it really is. When you're a guy, especially like my sides right i'm an undersized defensive end i have to go 100 100 miles per hour around the offensive

tackle all right now that offensive tackle is not trying to let me just hit their quarterback he's 350 pounds and pissed off so i'm rounding rounding around the corner. I have to beat him. My momentum is going to just take me wherever it's going to take me. And hopefully the quarterback is sitting right there so I can run right over him. Yeah, yeah. And that's just what it is. You know, that is how you play the game of football. So I understand what the NFL is trying to do do they're trying to you know preserve and hey

be careful don't hurt the quarterback and all of that but this is a violent game it always will sometimes it always will be sometimes hey the quarterback's there and he's there hey and if they're gonna call it they're gonna call it if they're not gonna call it they're not gonna call it just that is just kind of how the game is turning out to be now and it's based on the refs if the refs maybe having a good day hey maybe he lets you go with a couple of times you hit him a little bit too hard but if he's having a bad day you have no chance hey jay i saw a couple hip drop tackles in there i don't know about yeah yeah i did those hip drop tackles kick them all the game what do about that. Yeah, I did too. Those hip drop tackles? Kick them all the game, Doug?

What do you think of those, Dwight? What do you think about the hip drop tackle situation? I can't even understand it. Honestly, I can't even understand it. I don't get it. How are we supposed to get guys down? You've got to figure out a way to make it even across the board, offense and defense.

I get it it protect offensive players people get hurt but it is what it is you can't stop it it's inevitable people are going to get hurt it is what it is hey i think they were trying to ban that spin move there for a bit hey why was it so effective you think you were just faster than everybody you think that what it was well i think for me you know is everything was predicated on speed pat so you know with the fear of speed on the outside the offensive tackle had to get his feet moving to stop it all right and i think you kind of alluded to it in the beginning it's not playing checkers it's kind of chess so you know i know he's he can't stop everything so if i'm

running around the corner 100 miles per hour and he's blocking me, good for him. He's blocking me, but that also means he's committing to the outside speed and I can pull the spin move. Then he starts to sit on the spin, then I go back outside. And then we bull rush him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whenever he doesn't know what's coming, we bull rush him.

Zito just looked this up. He told me, coming out of Syracuse, you were 255, ran a 4.39. Is that real? 268. Okay, I was 268 coming out of college. And I ran, you won't even believe me. What? I ran a 4.38 at Syracuse.

I ran a 4.38 at Syracuse, and they had to prorate it a tenth because I did not run it at the combine. So they had to add a tenth to it. So it became 4.48. But, hey, I ain't complaining. 4.38? You were a 4.38, a 2.68? I ran 4.38 at Syracuse, and because I didn't run into combine, they had to add. What the hell does that mean? How do you even – you still can move a little bit?

We can still move a little bit, you think? I can't move anything but the golf ball in the wrong direction. Okay. That's all I got. Hey, you're maybe one of the most explosive people that have ever existed. 4-3-8 at 2-68? That's absurd. I didn't even – unheard of. Hey, good for you, dude. Hall of most explosive people that have ever existed. 438 at 268? Yeah, it's absurd. I didn't even.

Unheard of. Hey, good for you, dude. Hall of Famer. Hall of Famer. That's Hall of Famer. Connor's got a question about another one of those. Yeah, Dwight, for the first time in like half a century, Bill Belichick won't be coaching in the NFL.

Do you have any thoughts around that? Because obviously Pat has mentioned before, like the chip block was basically invented by Bill Belichick to try and stop you. Do you think the game will pass over him, or do you think probably next year, next cycle, Bill's coming back to the NFL? Well, speaking on the chip, he kind of created the tight end off the ball chip. The receiver, what is he even doing in the pass protection, you know, type of deal. But I think Bill is a genius, man. I think Bill is one of the greatest coaches that ever coached a game.

He relates to the players, you know, from a football perspective. It's hard to keep a guy like him out of the game because he knows so much. I think the only thing that will stop Bill is when Bill decides, you know what, I'm done. Somebody's going to pick Bill up. Somebody's going to, you know, every year you have four or five teams that fire their head coach every single year. Oh, yeah.

All right. This year is not going to be any different. And Bill's going to be sitting right there and he's going to get the pick of whatever he wants to, wherever he wants to go. All right. But it's, you know, it is what it is. He is. He's getting older. We all know he's in his 70s. And I think, you know, you hear, you know, is he relatable to the players? But listen, this man has how many rings? Seven? Who knows? Eight? Whatever he has. You know, there's a reason for that because he knows what he's doing.

And the years that he – the last three or four years, they didn't win because they really didn't have the talent. And that's just what it is. Well, the quarterback was rapping the whole time. Yeah. I just learned. That's right. Freedy, enjoy the hell out of your life, man. You've earned everything that you got legitimately.

And whenever I talk about you being like one of the most humble teammates of all time, you weren't supposed to be like that. You've earned everything that you got legitimately. And whenever I talk about you being one of the most humble teammates of all time, you weren't supposed to be like that. You're a superstar. You're 268 running 438. You're a cool dude, man. You're one of one. Congrats. Alright, Pat. I love you, man. Y'all take care. How's Cornhole? You getting better at that?

Man, listen. Whenever you're ready. I haven't played it since, but you know me. Let's go. Ladies and gentlemen, Dwight Freeney. Thank you, buddy. whenever you're ready. I haven't played it since, but you know me. Let's go. Ladies and gentlemen, Dwight Freeney. Thank you, buddy. Hey, Dwight. You know me? He was a horrendous cornhole player.

Oh, no. Really? Yeah, not good. But he did have an eye for talent. I was a pretty good cornhole player. So I'd get a, how are we feeling today on boards pretty good all right we're going thousand m ms against blah blah blah and blah blah blah per point yep got it sure let's go do that let's go do that it was awesome he was so cool man there was you know obviously everybody knows

about my uh public intoxication that was definite that was story who knows but there was a few other evenings where i was with a couple teammates and that was back before uber you know and taxis not like the most prevalent thing and he was always like one text away and then a limo would show up and it's you know it was like uh it was a cool thing and he you know host card games every once in a while for people come hang out it's like's like he was so cool, and he was so wealthy. And so good at football. And so, so good at football. You're telling me he'd send a driving crooner to come pick you up

any time you'd be around. Exactly. We were just standing there, and I don't think I was the person that sent the text. I think it might have been, like, Feely Mawala, who was on the D-line, sent the text. And then, like like 15 minutes later, limo just pulls up right in front of us and like door opens.

This is awesome. Okay. All right. This is awesome. I live down that road. Here we go. It was like really cool. You know, that's a good teammate.

That's old school stuff. I'm happy he's going in the Hall of Fame. We'll continue on YouTube and ESPN+. We're live from WWE World tomorrow with a packed show. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Alright. Right on screws. Well done.

That one comes out of nowhere though. The 53 comes out of nowhere. 57 kind of good. Donnie Dondon had a pretty extended stay on the show today, didn't he? Yeah. I was taking a dump for it, but I watched it. It was a while. I did see you get up and leave there mid-dude wipes. Yeah, well, exactly. I needed the dude wipes and they came through because I pooped out a dump for it, but I watched it. It was a while. I did see you get up and leave there mid-dude wipes.

Yeah, well, exactly. I needed the dude wipes, and they came through because I pooped out a couple hot dogs, which is a good thing that we learned from the poop chart that we've been looking at. What's that? So there are marbles. The way your poop should look, hot dogs apparently is the perfect way it's supposed to look. Yeah, hot dogs or hot snakes. So whenever you're talking about how pee is supposed to be lighter

colored as opposed to yellow color depending upon how healthy you are, the shape of your turds can also determine what you got going on. Correct. And we're looking for hot dog shaped turds. Yes. Let's get to a break. Just for people that are about to poop and use their dude right now.

Not good for me, my friend. You got rabbit deer poop? I haven't had a solid shit in years. Don't even deal with spray paint for quite some time. Yeah, Tone, that's not good. Yeah, I've been told. Here's the Bristol stool chart here. Type 7 is what Tone's been doing.

He's way too young to be dealing with that, I think, is what some people would say. Type 1 is the rabbit. Separate hard lumps. Those are tough to get out. Sounds like a... As it's going. Probably a splash.

Type two, lumpy and sausage-like. That's how the sausage is made. Sausage-shaped cracks, that's normal. Like a smooth sauce. Smooth, soft sausage or steak. That's the one you want. There it is. That's the one we're looking normal. Like a smooth sauce, smooth soft sausage or steak. That's the one you want. There it is. Looking for type 4, always.

Kind of like an original hot dog. The O. The O's hot dog. I don't think you want a stiff skin around the outside. No, no, no. Do you remember the first time

he had an original hot dog from the O or whatever? I don't know what to call it. It's the O, and they have hot dogs. Original hot dogs. Have you ever had this before? No, I don't think so. Is it a restaurant? What is it? Came in a plum. Big deal. Oh, it's a big to-do. Right across the street from Smarty Artie.

Now, Smarty Artie is where it inevitably goes down because it was actually a massive cocaine moving operation. Good wings. It's plum, of course. Greatest wings I've ever had in my entire life. People actually said these wings have crack in them.

They got to. Well... Turns out. Turns out the whole operation behind the kitchen was moving a lot of cocaine. That's why I'm addicted to the wings now.

I love wingy. Yeah, right down the street. Eats them in bed. The O comes into town right across the street. Big to do. We're talking lines to get in. Oh, we hear it. Shit.

You finally get in there. They had bar games, which was cool. You know, little games on the bar. Yep. They serve you, I don't know, enough fries for 14 people to eat. Yes. Probably is the one serving. Damn.

It was like a super duper amount of fries. Like five guys, kind of. Whole tray was just fries. A little bigger, but more. Triple one serving. Damn. He was like super duper amount of fries. Like five guys kind of. Whole tray was his fries. A little bigger, but more. Triple five guys. Jeez. No way they're making any money off these potatoes type service. Okay.

And then you get a hot dog, and the first time you bite into it, it's like you got a crack. They had like a seal around it. Oh. And then you get inside of it. The casing was hard. I was not a fan of that. That sounds disgusting. Yeah, that's disgusting.

I was not a fan. The fries, though, were delightful. Did it stay around? What happened to them? Yeah, it was no longer there, I don't think. No, I think the one in Oakland, which was the original one, on Pitt's campus also closed. Well, I think they actually got –

I think there were so many bullets that shot the sign down in Oakland. Oh, okay. Yeah, it certainly wasn't for lack of business. Yeah, I've been there. I've been there a lot late night. That was a great late night. They had a great late night. Great 40s.

Every once in a while, you would hear, are those M80s outside? No, no. Those are actual gunshots. Oh, okay. Yeah. They had pizza, too.

It actually smelled like pure vomit, but tasted delicious. Yeah, once again, this is a PK Subban rating. Yeah. This is happening 3.30, 3 a.m. Yep. College years.

But the O was a... Was it only Pittsburgh? I think so. I never heard of it. Had a 3 a.m. College years. But the O was a... Was it only Pittsburgh? I think so. I never heard of it. Hell of a run. Hell of a run. Quick. Great late night 40 spot as well.

Go in there, pick up a couple sixers, a couple 40s. Oh, that's fantastic. Yeah, it was like the most Pittsburgh. I mean, it was like a Pittsburgh place. That makes sense. A Mickey's grenade. Yeah. Oh, please.

Here's a heart attack with a fries. Mickey's malt liquor. Shout to Canada. Ladies and gentlemen, this third hour is about to be something. So good. Kelsey Plum's joining us. That'll be a lot of us telling her that the Las Vegas Aces era is over. Yep.

Good run. Because the Indiana Fever are now the team. Yep. All eyes on us. That's what it's going to be like. Bingo. Everybody's going to be watching. Sold out every night.

They're going to want to play in Indiana. I mean, that's just. They do, right? The Aces play the Fever twice. Yes. We were told, come to the game. We were told, come to the game. We want you to watch.

That's what we were told. By Aces members at the All-Star game. We were told that June, I believe We're sitting down Well, the seat thing was a whole thing But we ended up sitting down Right next to me

Two women They shout out to Kelsey Plum across the court Learn, okay, you guys part of the Aces First thing I say, sorry about it. It's over. The fever are coming for you. And then they responded right back. Okay. I don't know who it was, but the one girl who was

just eating the popcorn in our face, we hope you're there. Come watch. We will be. We bought season tickets so we could see it. How about that? She was so rattled, she knocked over a drink. As soon as she put it down, boom. Boom. I think she's a very good player.

She is very. From what I've been told. Both of them, I believe. Very good players. Okay. Very, very good players. We were a little boozed up. That happened, sure.

It was just a little back-to-back champs? Yes. It was snowing out? We came back. It was right after our last supper there before we all took a break. The Espresso Martins. Flowing. Plenty of it.

Like the salmon of Capistrano. Bingo. And then we're at an all-star game. Micah just dunked. Puka's dunking. CJ Stroud's missing shots. All over the place. Does he have the clutch team?

September 11th. Fever. Host the A team? September 11th. Fever. Host the Aces. September 13th. Aces still in town. It's going to be tough. It's going to be tough when it is. I thought they play earlier in the year, too. That's going to be tough. Maybe not.

Wednesday game we can make it to, right? Wednesdays, for sure. Wednesdays, Fridays, Sundays. How long is that season? Friday. Well, you got the big three, there's ten of them at least What day of the week was that first one? Wednesday How many teams in the league? They all play each other twice I think

We got scolded because we didn't know We were like, will you play the Fever? Yeah You're making sure I didn't know if you guys were at the same conference or not You're far away, I didn't know Who was next to me? She was electric Whoa, jeez. You're far away. I didn't know you guys were the same conference. You're far away. I didn't know. I think it's 40 games, 30 games. Who was next to me? I need to know.

She was electric. Yeah, she's very good. I don't know who. She was electric. Pull up the roster. Pull up the roster. Shit talk. See if you recognize.

We'll ask Kelsey when she joins. Let's take a break. We'll ask her. Say, who was next to me? And then the girl that was next to her from Indiana went to Notre Dame. Yeah. First round pick. Two doors down.

Starter. Yeah. Okay. Point guard, I think. I think the Aces could potentially actually be the team that we should be a fan of. They're very good. Very good. We got the young horse. You want the

one that's going to be at the top. Couple thoroughbreds. Leah Boston? Molly said earlier today on First Take how she graduated from UConn. Has a lot of connections with the Huskies, goes to UConn women's basketball games throughout the year. Okay.

She said if Paige Buckets didn't get hurt, we wouldn't be talking about Canada. Oh, is that so? And now everybody's talking like Molly is a journalist when she's saying that, as opposed to an alumni that's talking shit. But nonetheless, the women's March Madness is fantastic. I'll ask Kelsey about that as well. Molly's dead wrong, but she's entitled to say whatever she wants to say. Just like you as an Iowa alum.

Bingo. Are able to say whatever the hell you want. Exactly. And she did get hurt. Yeah. And I like her talking shit. Absolutely. You got people in here, it's like she's talking shit about her school.

What are we doing? Talk shit back. Exactly. Definitely. But let's not be getting offended. That's a whole different ballgame there. Let's get to it, Brent. Is this Cody or Roman?

Oh, shit. That's Roman. Whoa. Tagged it with tonight here. You know, this is night two. Night two. Cody, Cody. We don't shoot for the travel chief.

You're right. Yeah. You're so right. That's good. Too bad. Bummer. Universe going to put it in, Cody. I love Cody.

Who does? Such a good guy. We're going to talk to him tomorrow at 1230 Eastern. We love Cody. I shake his hand. I'm like, Cody, you're the coolest dude. So nice. Works so hard.

Time's a-miss coming. He's spitting in our face. Well, we don't know. We don't know. Who? Cody. What do you mean? I saw him backstage.

He spit in my face. He didn't. I mean, Tony's acting like he's not the biggest guy. That might be my fault. He tried to talk to me, and I said, sorry, pal. I'm Bloodline, brother. Yeah, this sounds in my face. He didn't. I mean, Tony's acting like he's not the biggest baller. He tried to talk to me and I said, sorry, pal, I'm bloodline, brother. Yeah, this sounds like all fake. Is this Donnie Dondon? No, this is backstage, brother.

Donnie Dondon is facts. Well, real quick, we don't know that. The rumor mill didn't spell that information today. Let's remember when we were backstage, too. We're not, you know. Yeah, I was gonna say. Yeah, not in the way, you know. Yeah, I was going to say. Not in the way. I tried to hide behind every

box I possibly could. And when you saw Cody you said, excuse me? No, he found me. He's spitting. I was like a rat in the corner. I couldn't have been more out of the way. Let's get to a break. Three different corners. Cody Rhodes is a good man. He is. Great man. He's actually very affable, very nice to all of us.

So friendly. He's actually very affable, very nice to all of us. So friendly. He was, yeah. That being said. Yeah, boom, right there. Maybe until tomorrow when we talk to him. Yeah, he'll have an opportunity. And Michael Cole is just going to be, you know. Yeah, oh, yeah.

Boards! That was a good one. I feel like we're really in unison there. BORS! That was a good one. I feel like we're really in unison there. This is going to be a good hour. That's A.J. Hawk. The Toxic Table is here. At Boston Connor and at Ty Schmick. Good to see you, con man, after the battle you had with the John.

Good to see you too, Pac. A lot of silver. Yeah, I'm happy that you were able to get all that shit out. Uh-huh. Had to do it. Shout out to Dubois. If I didn't have him, I would be screwed. Amen. One half of the hammer.

Done. Cowboys 10 digs is here. All the boys in the back, you're absolutely crushing it. Joining us now is a, hey, we're talking special athlete. Yep. Former all-time leading scorer for all of women's college basketball. Like the history of women's

college basketball. Long time. First overall pick in 2017 WNBA draft. Dave. She's all WNBA, obviously, multiple-time champion. I think she's representing the country that we live right now. Love that. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, Kelsey Plum. Yeah, Kelsey!

How we doing? What's going on, guys? How you doing? Hey, life is good. Where are we right now? I heard you're with Team USA. What are you guys doing? What are we preparing for? Where are we? Frozen. Oh, is it? Uh oh. Oh, did you lose me? No, no, no, no. We all went frozen there for a second there. No worries at all. Where are you right now? What are we doing? I'm in Cleveland,

baby. I'm here for the Final Four, here for Team USA. We're training for the Olympics. All good things. Okay, so congrats. So you're on the team? Yes, on the team, obviously. Oh, no, no, no, no. They haven't announced the team officially

until the end of May, I think. Okay, so I knew there was something going on. Well, congrats on making a team. Yeah. Congrats on it. No, no, I didn't. They didn't announce it. They didn't announce it yet. Yeah, but this is like whenever somebody has a birthday a month from. Congrats on it. No, no, I didn't. They didn't announce it. They didn't announce it yet.

Yeah, but this is like whenever somebody has a birthday a month from now, and it's like, hey, just want to get this out. I'm probably not going to see you. Happy birthday. This is a congratulations on making a team. Thank you for representing our country. Thanks for representing our country, Kelsey. Enjoy Paris.

Hell yeah. Let's go. Wee-wee. Wee-wee. Wee-wee. That's what we're talking about. Okay, Kelsey, let's talk about the future of the WNBA, which runs through Indiana with the Indiana fever.

Okay, I know we had a little bickering, and I know there were some other conversations with some other Las Vegas aces, but how do you all feel about Kaitlyn Clark? Because I assume, especially you, because your record got broken and everything, there could be a sense of like hating of caitlyn clark or do we appreciate what's happening with caitlyn clark and women's basketball as a whole through this entire thing kelsey oh brother i have too much to be thankful in life to hate anybody um but i'm i'm uh i'm hyped for her i think it's great for the game

but i do want to back up and i want you to tell America what you told me in Indianapolis. You and your boys during NBA All-Star. All the trash you were talking. I want you to say it live here for the people. We're a little boozed up. We had just got done from a pretty good dinner. Yeah, it's 6-7 espresso martini.

What do you want from us? A piece. And we learned just recently before that that Kaitlyn Clark was now on our team. Bingo. Okay. Pistol Pete couldn't hold this lady down. But now she's on Indiana Fever. So, you know, we run into you, a couple other lost maybe say season.

We had followed along with the back-to-back WNBA championship. And we might have just said, you know, quickly in the moment or two, like, hope you had your fun. Indiana Fever are now the next ten champions. that is awesome that we're running this whole thing so that did happen we would like to say and also i got the names kelsey who was sitting right next to me that was um chelsea gray and jackie young that's right your team is all jackie young talks so much shit to me i i've never just immediately talking shit to me and then somebody behind her i think bruce was like sabrina is so good all year and then

she plays against you guys and she doesn't have her good games and she just started doing the uh the popcorn eating the popcorn and i and then i learned that uh i, I believe, is from Indiana, drafted out of Notre Dame, right, I think? That's Jackie. That's Jackie. Shit. Okay, you get it. You get it.

These two here, okay? Awesome. Very nice and talking shit to us. You talking shit to us. You being on a show. We're supposed to be Las Vegas Aces fans. We're supposed to be. We are supposed to be.

But the Caitlin Clark wagon's coming to town. And the Caitlin Clark wagon is coming to the WNBA, and we're hopping on board. On the wagon. Yeah, bingo. And it's our league now. Sorry. I respect you for being honest.

What I love about you is that you just started watching WNBA yesterday. So all the knowledge that you do have. We're season ticket holders. Yeah, how about that? We're season ticket holders. No, we are season ticket holders. For years.

I don't even know what you're even referring. We saw you guys win back up. Yeah. We saw that. We were watching. We know. We know. No, no, no. I think you should

keep the same energy that you have now and we'll talk at the end of the year. Yeah, well, you're going to see us a couple of times. We'll be in the finals. Yeah, September 11th. It's a Wednesday. I believe you're coming to the absolute terrible

bar. I mean, just the loudest barn in the other lot house. Yeah, and then you're coming here and we're Terrible barn I mean just the loudest barn in WNBA The other loud house And you're coming here and we're going to be there We're season ticket holders where I said that So we'll be there we'll see you I can't wait I can't wait fellas When's the season start when do we start soon right we're starting soon

Yeah opening Opening night is May 15th Okay you guys have a full banner ceremony Like the NFL has like a ring ceremony On that first night does that happen We do we have a full banner ceremony? Like the NFL has like a ring ceremony on their first night? Does that happen? We do. We have a ring ceremony opening night, and they drop the banner.

We get our rings. Hopefully this year they're spelled correctly on the ring. Oh, no. Jesus. Just a little bit of a mistake. But, hey, that happens. You know what I mean? Mark Davis.

Mark Davis. What was spelled wrong? How little? Yeah. How little? It was, you know, they have your number, your name, and then your position. And it said guard. But I'm dyslexic, so I actually read it properly.

But it was read G-A-U-R-D. Oh, no. That's actually confusing. It's like restaurant. That's how Mark Davis spells, though. What are you going to do? I don't know if he's the one making the name. Yeah, he did.

I figure he's the one filling everything out for him. I don't know if he filled out the forms for what you're supposed to do that might have just been uh last ring yeah we gotta get through this entire thing just get through it yeah just get through it okay so let's talk about this march madness because you brought the point we had different three-point lines on one of these i mean what what the hell this women's march madness is electrifying but there's no way in hell that those different three-point lines should ever happen. And then you just talk about the ring being spelled wrong. It feels like women's basketball right now is in an uptick.

You can feel that, I assume. And have women's basketball players always been like, we deserve to be watched more and seen more because everything we're acknowledging right now is kind of happening in real time? I think that's a great way to put it i also think that um you know the game has been very good for a long time but we're actually seeing you know the visibility and we're seeing you know games on abc we're seeing uh really high level talent and we're seeing a lot more parody in the women's game i think in prior years it was more of

like maybe one or two teams that are consistently always at the top and now we're seeing a lot more parody in the women's game. I think in prior years, it was more of like maybe one or two teams that are consistently always at the top. And now we're seeing, you know, people like LSU, they're, you know, they're growing.

Obviously South Carolina has been there. UConn's been there, but then someone like Caitlin, Iowa takes her team consistently to the final four. So it's really cool to see the parody, but you know, we've had, we've had some really good players in,

in women's basketball for a long time. So I'm just glad that people are tuning in and they're liking the product and got to keep them coming. Hell yeah. Congrats to you all, by the way. Megan, it's a cool movement that's happening right now. Legit. Go ahead, AJ.

Kelsey, I believe you played a few years professionally over in Turkey. I'm curious about how that went, what it was like playing over there And is that something that a lot of WNBA players do in the off season? I really appreciate you asking that. I did. I played in Turkey, in Istanbul specifically for three years. And yeah, we do not as much anymore because of the opportunities that companies have been giving us in the months that we're out of season to be able to make money in the United States. But hey, I actually loved my experience overseas and built a lot of character. I got to work on my game a ton. And it's hard, you know, you're away from your family and friends. But at the same time, when you get back to the United States, you really appreciate it. And, you know, I love playing in front of my family here. And so I don't

take that for granted every time I step on the court. So that would be like in the offseason? WNBA season would lead right into Istanbul season? That's correct. Yeah, I was exhausted. Yeah, I could imagine. I could fathom that. But I think that was happening because business reasons.

You just talked about in the offseason now, which leads to – go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Kelsey, obviously the big three offer that caitlin clark got has been a huge conversation and to your point right there like instead of doing the overseas year round and getting exhausted with the basketball how did you feel about the big three with caitlin clark offer and do you think there is potential there to do something or it being in the middle of the wmba season it's just just too much for her to do, especially in her first year. I mean, it's an individual basis, but I know that she's not the only one that's gotten offers. And I think that it'll be interesting to see. That's a lot of money for only like 10 games, I think.

Yes. Yep. So you'll see. It'll be interesting because it is an Olympic year. I don't suspect you'll have maybe a high level of like people that go, but in other years, shoot guys. Wait,

hold on. You just broke some news there. I think, you know, and just kind of, I don't know if you did. So you said other people get the offers, but then you also said,

Hey, that's only 10 weeks because our immediate thought is can she handle it with the WNBA schedule? Because I think you guys play, what, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday. This would be happening on Saturdays. It's 10 weeks if you win it all, I think, eight if you just a regular season in that. And we started, like, piecing it together, though. She's probably having a workout at least that day anyways.

Would you just supplement the big three game as a workout? You think it's doable. And she's not the only one you think that's potentially going to be doing this in the future or at least think about it i love the way that you're asking this um i will speak for myself i think that it really just depends on the individual person um but i will say that five million dollars is not something to just uh you know wave your wave your arm you know what i mean so 10 weeks uh roll the ball out i don't know i don't know i think i think that um the big three um and the offer will continue to evolve and we'll see it would be it would be nice if they coordinated it with the w so it's a little bit more doable

with the travel and everything like that. But at the same time, you got to start somewhere. So it's pretty cool that they're involving this and they're, they're open to new things. Yeah. And the traveling, if you were to put it, because we thought Caitlin was potentially the only one that this was going to take place.

Now we're learning from United States of America team member representing our country. Our champion. Two time. But last time's right. Our champion. Two-time. But last time. Yeah, two-time last time. Smelled the name wrong on the ring last time. Kelsey Plum.

Yeah, guard. Yikes. Guard. Kelsey Plum there. It's like, I didn't even think about other. Now, okay. I like what Ice Cube's cooking. There's some people that are pissed off about it, though.

It doesn't sound like that's how people that are potentially Actually going to benefit from this are feeling about it I mean, you guys know how it goes Everyone that has an attitude about it Has never probably even run a business So to me, like Who is someone to You know, hate on someone that's trying to do something different

And that's what you have to do You have to be innovative, you have to be different And I appreciate him for being a leader and stepping up. And, you know, you never know. I think that, like I said, I think time will tell how this all shakes out. But at the end of the day, basketball is basketball. And we're seeing that. And the fans are seeing that.

And so good things to come. What team offered you? What team did you – which team are you playing for? Is it the – Oh, you're so funny. I can neither confirm nor deny go ahead aj go ahead aj i know you say you're uh you're there with usa basketball and everything and they have not announced the team so how many how many girls are there training and what does the training mean what exactly does that look like yeah there's uh 14 women here um there's 12 spots on the roster. And, you know, we've been

preparing for this for years, right? So obviously, Tokyo, because of COVID was in 2021. So pretty much for the last three years, we've had, I don't know, maybe a dozen training camps. And there's a committee that picks the team. It's not just one person. There's a committee from all different, And there's a committee that picks the team. It's not just one person. There's a committee from all different, you know, there's a WNBA coach, GMs, former players, people with the WNBA. And so that's how it is. It's a committee. And obviously people have different opinions.

But at the end of the day, the United States takes pride in a legacy of winning gold medals. And they're going to put the best 12 on the roster to help our country win a medal. How old were you when you first were in the pool? Oh, I was 21 when I was first in the pool. Wow. That's a big deal, I assume, whenever you get that invite, I would assume. Oh, absolutely. I mean, as a kid, this is the pinnacle, right? This is what you dream of. This is the best team in the world. And there's a lot of people that have played before you that have really paved the way.

And that's another thing, too, which is really cool to see about all this and how the visibility is growing because there's so many women that didn't get to reap the benefits of what we're seeing right now, but I always try to acknowledge them because without them, building the game, growing the game, passing their knowledge down, things like that, you guys know as former players. Yeah, it happened in the NFL. It matters, man. The vets, the leadership, it really does matter. Yeah, and those OGs in the NFL

also are saying these guys are making it one week what it made in five years. And they got three new knees, two new hips, smoking cigs, and have had to work ten jobs since retiring. But they're like, yep, it was an honor. It was an honor to lay the foundation.

It was an honor. That's legit. That happens in our... Yeah, I'm happy. Yeah, it was an honor. It was an honor to lay the foundation. It was an honor. That's legit. That happens in our – yeah, I'm happy. Yeah, it's only going to – as things continue to grow, that's kind of how it's going to go. Speaking of international, though, Ty's got a question for you. Yeah, staying on the Olympics, Kelsey, obviously. Listen, I know they haven't released the team yet.

We can cut through all the bullshit. You will be on the team. Congratulations. You will be in Paris. Thank you for representing our country. Sailing down the Seine for the opening ceremonies. But I'm just curious, when we talk about the men's game, like the international

rules, I mean, it's the same game, obviously, but it is a little bit different. Ball is a little bit different. And we talked about last Olympics, how the physicality kind of came back to the NBA after the Olympics. Is there a big change with the WNBA rules and international rules for women's basketball?

And also, when you do make the team, is there any concern about transitioning back to the WNBA in-season after the Olympics are over? Brother, that's a great question. I really appreciate you asking that. Hey, Kelsey, you complimenting the questions is next level. Yeah, we need that. It's like the final boss. Yeah, it is, brother.

Thank you, brother. Thank you, brother. You sound like the boss. It is. It is good mana. It is good mana. It is good mana. Well, I just appreciate you guys doing your homework.

You know, it's not just some like, hey, off the rip. Let's go, man. You guys are real journalism, man. Let's go. Yeah, you know it. Yeah, you know it. You know it. Yeah, we've been journalizing so hard dude you should see

don don anyways yeah we're gonna get canceled today anyways kelsey again i will tell you i will tell you that the game is actually very different first and foremost in the nba there's defensive three seconds you can't camp in the lane, which changes the spacing of everything, right? So in the international rules, if you watch, people just sit in the key. And so you're able to have better ball pressure. You're able to be a lot more physical on the ball, which makes getting downhill a lot more difficult, which makes people not have to rotate as much, which makes the shots a lot harder. So if you see in the NBA, people are shooting wide-open horse shots because there is no defensive three seconds.

Or excuse me, there is defensive three seconds. So that changes internationally significantly. And the other thing is, too, is like you said, the physicality. NBA and WNBA, more so NBA, you can't be super physical on the ball, two hands and stuff. In the other countries in the Olympics, they basically let you play football on the ball. So you do have to significantly adjust. So we have an advantage.

So USA has an advantage, obviously, because we're the best football place on Earth. Yeah, by far. Right? I like how you think. I like how you think. Let's move on. People aren't used to it, though. People aren't used to that type of physicality.

Yeah, exactly. But to answer your question, transitioning back to the W, if anything, it's brutal because we play our last game, and we have like one day, and then we're supposed to play the next day. The fever? Are you playing the fever the next day? Loss. That doesn't seem like enough rest time there, especially whenever

the international game seems to be much more physical and probably tasking and you're representing our country. And you're representing our country. It doesn't feel like that's the right play. When you talk about physicality, who are the other teams around the world that we need to... Who's the... We just got to beat

everybody, right? Yeah, we beat everybody by 50. We beat everybody by... How's Canada? They good? So bad. Canada sucks. They blow. Come on, go. Canada... No, well, Canada men's team is phenomenal. You see the guys on that team? Jay Gilders. Jay Gilders, Alexander.

Jay Gilders, brother. R.J. Barrett. They're really good. Now's not the time to be good. We're the United States. We're going to get everybody's best game. It doesn't matter who you're playing. It's going to be a tough game. People are going to make shots they don't usually make. They play basketball too.

It's not anywhere near as well as we do. Communist basketball, maybe. USA! USA! USA! USA! USA! near as well yeah we do communist basketball babies so how usa usa usa usa usa usa usa usa usa all right uh tony has a question for you yeah kelsey obviously your transition from college to the w was yeah is that what we're calling it the w we call it the w we're calling it the w oh we're throwing up dubs okay all right don't't eat those. James Winston once did that in a motivational speech. It did not work.

No. Kind of fell. They lost. W fell down on the ground. But I love that it's the W. We knew that because we're season ticket holders. We were talking to Elle the other day about the dub. Yeah, bingo.

And we support the WNBA. Always. The biggest investment we could potentially make as a fan, we did. We did. Bingo. Courtside season ticket. Every single game. Wow.

Look at us. Can't wait. We love the W. Yes, we do. You're doing the Lord's work. Wow. Doing the Lord's work. Here we go.

You guys are out there doing it. Truly. But we're trying our best to help. Anyways, Tone has a question for you. Yeah, obviously your transition was seamless. We know it was. But how is it like, so you talked about going from the WNBA season, going to Istanbul, how tired you are.

Is it similar when you go to college to the WNBA season because there's barely any break there? And then as far as like the game go, what's the hardest part as far as going from college to the W? Oh, man. I got cooked my rookie year. What? You sucked?

I sucked. I got put in the blender. What? You sucked? I sucked. I got put in the blender. No. We don't believe that. Yeah. No way. Brutal. No, I don't believe that.

Brutal. Absolutely. You were all rookie team. Yeah. All rookie team. First team. All rookie team. I watched.

It was seemingly. Yeah. What you did with the ball against those people. Those shots. Oh, my God. You put shots up. Ball fell. Everybody was like, whoa.

Steph Curry. That's what we're talking about. We saw it. You didn't get cooked. You're being a little hard on yourself. You put shots up. Ball fell. Everybody was like, whoa. That's what we're talking about. We saw it. You didn't get cooked. You're being a little hard on yourself, I think. Well, you have to think about it. To be the best player in college, you're averaging 30 points a game. It's pretty effortless in terms of being able to get to the spots you want to get to. The WNBA, there's grown women.

It's a grown women's league. get to. The WNBA, there's grown women. It's a grown women's league. Just the physicality and the speed of which people close gaps is night and day from college. Also, the IQ is just so much higher. So to answer your question, for me

to be able to be more of an all-star level player, it took me four or five years. Four or five years? What do you mean? Because Kaitlyn Clark's going to win. She's going to come in and be the MVP. We're season ticket holders or five years four or five years what do you what do you mean because caitlin clark's gonna win when she's gonna come in and be the mvp yeah we're season ticket holders next year yeah exactly i don't think you're fully i think that caitlin i think that caitlin um what people don't talk about is uh mentally she's an absolute beast.

I think that is going to help her more than anything because it's not if you fail, it's when you fail and how able you're bounced back, your resilience. So Kaitlyn will be great. She can shoot it from deep, and she can pass. All those things will really, really help her at the next level. But don't get me wrong. There's always a transition period. I've heard, just

birdie in my ear, basketball insider. Oh, really? Through Zito's phone, through Zito's mouth, into that microphone. Somehow, which we don't understand. How's that work? I mean, airplanes. I have no airplanes flying. How's that work? I mean, airplanes.

Airplanes flying, how does that work? Let alone mic packs. I have no clue how. FaceTime. It's so clear. Satellite somewhere. Anyways, came through here, through this thing, right into here. That's weird.

I didn't know you wanted to be a part of the WNBA, NBA three-point shoot, maybe? Shams Sharani just told us to ask about that. Because that's seemingly gaining traction because of the WNBA NBA three-point shoot maybe? Sean Shirani just told us to ask about that because that's seemingly gaining traction because of the success it had this past season with Steph and Sabrina. Are we going to make that a thing All-Star weekend? Because we did see basically your entire team was there. It feels like it's a

big NBA family W family kind of gathering. It would make sense to make that bigger. Is that true, what Sean Sharani is saying? Or is he lying again like it's the draft? Sean, I think he pulled out of thin air, but... Oh, Sean!

Sean! Sean Sharani! Sean, I love you. We don't know who you're citing, your sources, but I will say that I think that they saw how entertaining that was. And Sabrina is one of the best shooters in the world.

She can hold her own against anybody, man or woman. So I do think that we have a lot of really good shooters in the W. I would not be surprised if we did a little bit more of like a mixed group, maybe like five players from the w five players from the nba um i think it'd be really cool but that's the first to be honest i think pat i'll give you credit let's give pat some credit he just made that up i didn't know if it was real that's why i am very okay not getting credit for things believe me i say a lot That's why I am very okay not getting credit for things. Believe me. I say a lot of things into here. I'm okay not getting credit for stuff. That was from Sean Charani.

Yeah. Sean has never done that. No insider. Sean has never, never just dropped in the middle of conversation. He wants a little Kelsey Plum rub. Yeah. What's Sean's deal today? Yeah, what's Sean Charani?

Oh, Sean. But I like the fact that you enjoy the concept of it. And if they're going to do it, Adam Silver, let's give a million dollars to each person on the winning team. There you go. Right, if there's three-point shooting content, right? I mean, shoot, I love it. Let's do that.

Go ahead, AJ. Go ahead, AJ. Kelsey, we have a few friends that have torn their achilles over the last year or so i believe you tore yours three four or five years ago and you've been on a tear ever since you got it recovered you you know have recovered and you've been out there still killing it what was that recovery like and how does it still feel now to this day oh man uh that was a blessing from god it was like i I got to start over. I kind of got to start from scratch. And I changed everything.

Obviously, my physical makeup, but then also just mentally and spiritually, just be able to be realigned and just kind of attack it from the jump. Now, I was blessed to be able to do it during COVID when life kind of stopped. I didn't really miss much. be able to do it during COVID when life kind of stopped. I didn't really miss much. But I like, to this day, when people get hurt, I always encourage them and say, Hey, this will be the best thing for you if you allow it to be. And so even when Aaron tore it, I was almost like, Hey, man, like this guy's gonna come back and he's gonna do great things. Now. I don't know what they're doing with him. Did he get a kangaroo Achilles or something? Whoa, like,

I didn't have that type of I didn't have that type of what you're doing with him. Did he get a kangaroo Achilles or something? Whoa. Like, I didn't have that type of... Did he? I didn't have that type of... Boy, you're breaking news now. Who's your source? Is that Sean Girani? Yeah. Is that Sean Girani telling you we're going with marsupial?

Yeah, did Sean tell you that? Yeah, what? They take a kangaroo Achilles. Are you just making that up? Let's give Kelsey credit. She's made it up. She's made it up out of thin air there. Okay, let's talk about the Final Four here.

That's going to be taking place. Feels like all the stars are still around. When you watch that South Carolina team, what do you see? Whenever you watch the Iowa team, what do you see? What are your thoughts on how we're going forward here this weekend as we watch a thrilling Final Four once again for the Women's March Madness? South Carolina has depth, and they rebound the ball at such a high level. I don't see them losing games just because they can have an off shooting night, but they make up for it

defensively and the way they control the board. So I would have to say overall, it might be South Carolina, but this is when great players just step up to the plate. And we have a ton of great players. NC State has two guards that are pro-ready right now. They're absolute beasts. And then, of course, you know, Iowa. You guys know. I don't need to say anything about them. You talking about the Indiana Fever?

You talking about the Indiana Fever? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah. I thought so. But UConn is somebody that's just resilient, and they got a great game plan and scheme. And, you know, Paige is the real deal.

Paige is the real deal, and she's ready for this moment. So, to be honest, I think we're going to get two really good games, guys. That's awesome. The March Madness, the women's March Madness the last two years has been fantastic. Now, granted, we've watched for years and years. I'm 36. Decades, yeah. This is 2016. So, we know what we watched for years and years. I'm 36. Decades. 2016. So we know what we're talking about when we talk about it,

especially whenever it comes about this particular thing. Amen. But we do appreciate you coming in here and maybe enlightening us on some things. Clarifying what we know. Yeah, well, we're already... You're reaffirming our thoughts. Triple stamp and a double stamp. Yeah, making us feel like we've been right all along, which we appreciate.

Which we have. What's the rest of the day look like? The rest of the day, guys, I'm about to take a good nap, then get up and go socialize. Nice. You go shake those hands, Kelsey. You're a champion, but for how much longer? I mean, I guess four, five, six months,

and then that's all she wrote for the Aces Oh, then there's a fever In the only prescription Is Caitlyn Clark Ladies and gentlemen, Kelsey Plum Thank you Alright, I think that does it Pretty good show today

Hey, so is Caitlyn on She's on the Olympic team, right? So I think she was supposed to be That's probably why it's May. She will make the selection still because the season ends on Sunday. It was a really dumb thought for a second. Are they in Cleveland because? Yes.

I assume that they have the training camp around. But there's no way those schools are letting Paige and Kaitlin. No, no, no. Kaitlin said if they wouldn't have made the Final Four, she would have went to the training camp. So, and I think what it is, just from what we learned at the All-Star game, the celebrity game, which we were there for 45 minutes, so we got it all figured out.

Oh, yeah. It was a great time. Which is a big thing, you know, that our show does. You know, we walk in, we're there for 15, 20 minutes. We got this place figured out. We're outtie. See you later. Now we're going to talk as if we do know,

but we had a pretty good feeling. The NBA utilizes the All-Star break as a Super Bowl, you know, because they don't have a Super Bowl because they have a seven-game series. So, like, game four, if it's 3-0, could be viewed as, like, Super Bowl, but you don't know what it's going to be. So the All-Star break is kind of like

when all the companies that would come for the Super Bowl, all the don't know what it's going to be. So the all-star break is kind of like when all the companies that would come for the Super Bowl, all the NFL partners come for the, all the NBA partners come, the WNBA is there. There's a lot of appearances like Kelsey and Jackie and Chelsea, which I knew they were incredible. I watched them win championships. They're so good. Great players.

But they were making appearances at companies, you know, getting paid for it's like oh this is your super bowl they're like yeah so anytime there's like an event where basketball is happening i think it is utilized as like uh almost like a bird call like hey here we go come together so like the training camp being there i assume it's not just because the training camps at final four is there i assume there's a lot of businesses there so there's a lot of yeah i assume assume it is a full-on, almost like a convention. You know what I mean, AJ? Yeah, it's cool how they do that, I guess, when they're all in one place. Also, I would imagine maybe whoever – who's coaching the women's team?

Do we know? Who's coaching the men's basketball team? We know. We know, yeah. That is a good question. We haven't paid attention to that. Was it Steve Kerr? Yeah, yeah.

Steve Kerr is definitely out there and won the gold medal. Then Bron Bron put a tweet out and said, I won't play on Team USA. Yeah, everyone's playing this year. So it's Cheryl Reeve who's coaching WNBA, like we said, this entire time. And the men's team who's coaching the team, it is Steve Kerr, like you said, the entire time. Like we knew. Just like we fucking said it would. He retired. He retired from, yeah. Just like we fucking said it would. Chesky's still part of it.

He retired. He retired from, yeah. He's doing sit-down interviews. But I think Boeheim still is. Calhoun. James. James was a hell of a ball coach up there. Yeah, he was.

I think Geno is, too. He was definitely part of it. Yeah. I don't know if he still is. What about Bob Huggins? Huggy Bear was He goes to the mixers for sure Not anymore, 300 days brother

Yeah, right Not counting the days he got a DUI Leave those off the record That had to be fake That all had to be fake That had to be Donnie Don Don That had to be fake Did you see that?

He's a hell of a coach. He's a hell of a ball coach. Yes. He's a hell of a ball coach. It's a big deal that he's 300 days sober. He's not. He's trying. We don't know if he ever proclaimed that he was.

No, yeah, you're right. You're right. This could be, you know what I mean? We don't know. He looks thin. He looks good. He does. He looks energized.

Sometimes you need to, you know, experience some things. You can bounce back. What's West Virginia going to do? Do we have a coach? Yeah, I told you. They're good. They got DeVries from Drake. Yeah, and we got the kid.

He's got the conference player of the year. His son's coming with him. Maybe the DeVries guy. Which conference was he in? Is that his name? Missouri Valley. He had DeVries. School was Drake, not DeVries.

Yeah, he won conference player of the year over Cream. He did. The kid's coming to West Virginia? Yeah. He's better than Rob Wave? He was conference player of the year. So, yes. It's going to be tough for me to believe.

His brother also played in the NFL for about 11 years. Oh, so the family's got juice. Yeah. You're getting Drake May. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. And Bob Wave. That's why Gordon Gee's like, hey, can we get a professional league? We've got a team.

Now football's ready to go. Gigi's about to run wild. Gordon Gee's playing QB? No. Was Bo Tylan? No, Garrett Green. Oh, Gigi's. Sure, sure, sure.

Gordon Gee, also Gigi. He's O-G-G. Okay Gee, also GG. He's OGG. Okay. Old GG. He played at Ohio State, right? Yeah. Bang. He was the president at Ohio State.

Yeah, played at Ohio State. What did he do for you guys? Anything good? Yeah, I believe so. I think people like him. Yeah, I think people like him in West Virginia, too. I don't know what exactly. I think he gave away free tattoos and stuff like that.

No, that was football players were selling stuff. Yeah, that's exactly. I think he gave away free tattoos and stuff like that. No, that was football players were selling stuff. Yeah, that's right. I think Terrell Pryor got a free tattoo, too. From Gordon Gee? Yeah, he's the one who did it. Yeah, he is a great tattoo artist and artist, yeah. I can see that because he does look like he has a creative side with how he's dressed and how he operates.

Maybe he is an artist. Wow. We got a tattoo artist as president of West Virginia. Pretty cool. Multifaceted. All right. We have to tell people we are not being serious. But maybe.

But what they would do is they type that out. They put it on a thing. Whose fault is that? Leave these fucking guys. Gordon Gies on Ink Master. That'd be sweet. Tomorrow, hey, just a little heads up. If you're still watching this program right now, we'd assume you're pretty big fans of our show.

We appreciate you. Yeah, just with all the shits. Thank you for keeping up with all the shits. Tomorrow's going to be one of the most ridiculous shows we've ever had. It's going to be sick. Oh, yeah. There's 52,000 right now, which is obviously a number that is absurd for what we are currently doing.

Tomorrow is going to be absurd. It's absolutely absurd can't wait i don't know wrestlemania starts tomorrow it does it does it does wrestlemania starts tomorrow and katie rhodes the american nightmare who i'm a big fan of massive i'm excited to see the interaction between our show and him yeah especially with what the rock did the rock people don't remember when he showed up in Colorado for us. And then Let Me Do It People's Elbow on Austin

Theory right there with him. That was awesome. Yeah, highest rated show we had for the entire first quarter or whatever. And then Roman Reigns flies through a blizzard to get to Iowa. To do our show that was only on YouTube and ESPN Plus

whenever he got on. It wasn't even on TV. Flew all the way in there. Day of having to go to Milwaukee. So whenever you talk about, like, we are grateful for our tribal chief. We are grateful for our tribal chief, let alone the lights that are on inside the arenas

and WWE and the $5 billion deal and everything that's happening. We are for shoot grateful for roman reigns in iraq and we thought that would have been a really cool thing to watch you know iraq and roman kind of do their thing i wish but instead cody rhodes wins a royal rumble which he's allowed to do and he earned and then he gets to decide what he wants to do we have some questions on why he just stole our dreams uh-huh you know the rock's talking about his dream okay he's talking about his story. What about my dreams of watching that?

Yeah. What about that, AJ? Broke them. You speak for millions of fans, don't you? Millions. And millions! You mean? Is that what you're talking about?

Yeah. Yeah, you do. You're their mouthpiece. There's a lot of people that aren't happy that I potentially am their mouthpiece sometimes, though. And for that, I do apologize. Let's also not forget that that Money in the Bank case could come out at any time. Damien Priest. Send your Money in the Bank, please.

Yeah, head on the Swizz. Logan Paul's going to be there. That's going to be sweet. Very lucky that he's joining the program. Rhea Ripley, mommy. Come on. And then kicking off the show, Triple H. So he's the one in charge of the whole thing. The king of kings. It's going to be incredible. Is Cole still going to be. Come on. And then kicking off the show, Triple H. So he's the one in charge of the whole thing.

The king of kings. It's going to be incredible. Is Cole still going to be here? So pumped. Michael Cole will be guest hosting the entire time. Yes, he will be doing his. I didn't know he got taken off the marquee. Well, he did get taken off the marquee.

Yeah, what happened? Hey, that's the way shit goes. You see who's all out there? Yeah, right. The Miz silhouette's still on there, but it's hard to make the marquee whenever this is the lineup. And I think I can add, Gunther will be joining us. What? The ring-heading round?

Ring-heading round. Ring-heading round. He's going to slide. He'll join us at 2.15. Let's go. 2.15. Perfect. He wants to take a chop.

Well. Or J.D. J.D. McDonough, he's always lingering. Yeah, there'll be a round. He's playing darts. He might be playing darts. You're right. Ripping darts.

Oh, no. With the lows. I haven right. Ripping darts. Oh, no. With the lows. I haven't been shot three days, four days, boys. Ball's not falling. You're doing it. No, you're doing it. Pass it to you. Because it's mania.

Yeah, I was going to say it's mania. If you shot for a single leg on the golf cart thing, you probably, I mean. You're right. Keep it a shot. Suplex. I completely forgot about that. That used to be one of my moves. People don't know this If I would see somebody who was a prolific wrestler

Or fighter Before even introducing myself Fake shoot for a single leg Before even meeting these people They love that That's aggressive I don't get all the way in there Because if you get too close

They'll turn it on They knee you right in the face But then I stand up and all the way in there because, you know, if you get too close, they actually kill you. They'll turn it on. They knee you right in the face. Yeah, but then I stand up and go, could have fucking had you. Could have fucking had you. On your back right there. I'm Pat. Nice to meet you, man. Great to see you.

Thank you for coming here. I just saw Travis Brown commented on something we posted on Instagram. And it reminded me, like, literally he's holding, like, a baby in the back of a WWE show. And I knew who he was, obviously huge guy and i seen him in ufc he's got the call fire the whole thing and as he's holding baby i go you know both of you yeah both of you it's the attitude dude i could have had you could have like that's the thing It's the attitude Dude I could imagine Like that's the thing

I get such a big Like I Because these humans Could kill me All of them Yeah of course And I assume That they know

That I know that But I also like The thought of them And like for a moment Thinking like This guy thinks Son of a bitch I've seen you

Do to Corbin With boxing too Boom pow Because he's a Golden gloves boxer You're also doing Him a favor though You gotta keep him on the toes

You never know You're right I mean that's what I was taught From my wrestling coach in high school Bingo You know When I was on a macket And a snake worm

Ring There it is Snake worm Yeah Baron Corbin's Golden Gloves boxer You know So we'll just be walking Towards each other

Very quietly He comes in for the hello And I go boom bang Knocked out Dead Right here Right here If it had to happen He's like We'll just be walking towards each other very quietly. He comes in for the hello, and I go, boom, bang, bang. Knocked out. Bow. Dead. Right here.

Right here. If it had to happen. He's like, you're an idiot, dude. I'm like, you're dead. Yeah. Stop talking. You just got CTE, right? Yeah. He's killing it.

He's killing it. They're letting him. He's being like. Cool. He's being like himself. Good to see. Him and my guy. You know my guy.

Brawn Breaker. Yeah. being like cool he's being like himself yeah him and my guy you know my guy braun breaker yeah i would pay hundreds and thousands of dollars to watch that guy run the ropes how about hundreds of thousands of dollars yeah sure okay sweet i mean we can make this happen i think that is certainly a bookable thing yeah tickets if you pay two hundred thousand dollars i think braun breaker run ropes for you well it's the thing we get right out here yeah you see the thing about my bank account is uh i get paid on different days and that which one what day is it it's april 4th just got paid a couple days ago i i didn't you didn't see it well that seems like there might be something wrong with the system yeah i have an over i have an overdraft thing that won't let me do that overdraft oh okay he does hit those ropes oh incredible he's explosive he is, he's a big son of a bitch

Who else, who was Madcap He used to hit the ropes Mike, he used to hit it real bad, real hard Like real hard I couldn't even imagine how much that would hurt my back When you're watching a wrestling too, remember everything hurts Like everything hurts The ropes hurt

The mat hurts The chairs hurt The tables hurt the mat hurts the chairs hurt the tables the tables hurt kill the ground yeah the oh hurts i think there's some people no it's not real it's fake bell everything everything is much higher than it looks on tv as well the ring when they're when you're on top of the turnbuckle all of that seems it is yeah it's much scarier to look at it in person i never even think about trying and then just think like just one little slip too it's like yeah ricochet's yeah you gotta trust the other people too yeah bingo what's that remember you took that kendo stick of that watch party yeah oh watch along

yeah matt hardy hardy brothers asshole those lunatics. I mean, Matt Hardy and Jeff Hardy have been very good to our program. I am a big fan of what they do. Baron Corbin comes walking into a watch-along. I don't know, 2018, I guess, 2007. Who knows what year that is. Comes into a watch-along, which is in the back of a premium live event. Sure, of course. Not a pay-per-view.

A premium live event. And I'm hosting this watch-along. Baron Corbin comes walking in with a Kendo stick. I'm like, what's this asshole doing? And he goes, oh, you think it's all so easy. And I'm like, all right, good entertainment here. Let me take one of these. Let me take one of these Kendo sticks.

Can't be that bad. You know? Then Matt Hardy jacks it off of him. Matt Hardy, old school. Oh, yeah. Earn your stripes. Then what? He jacks it off. He rips off his hands.

He jacks it off of him. Yes. Of course. He took it out of his hands. Different thing. And there's the welts the next day. Dang. Yeah, that was the next day.

Didn't they wrestle in our office? Yeah. We went off the top ropes into the tramp day. Dang. Yeah, that was the next day. Didn't they wrestle in our office? Yeah. We went off the top ropes into the trampoline. And had our faces painted. We went off the ladder. Yes, we did. We went off the top of the ladder

into the trampoline and he scored our swanton ball. Which I would later go on to use a few different times. Just a little flavor to it. Is that when the ground

broke your fall? Oh, yeah. Off the top of the cage. How many years ago was that? And toe. That was COVID, right? We've been very lucky, yeah. That was war games.

That was war games. That's what, you know. I appreciate the internet wrestling community being like, so Pat McAfee deserves to be in a game, and then his friends deserve to be in a game. It's like, hey, we understand that we can't be around since we're

like 18 at this stage, but I feel like we've tried our best. We love that business. I love that business. I absolutely love it. Anything we're allowed to do, we try to do. But this was a bad idea. Baron Corbin laughing on the side with his big dumb head. Adam Cole's in there somewhere probably being a piece of

why'd you pull your shirt up i didn't dana brookton sam roberts still has hair yeah i didn't know matt at that point as well as I knew Bear. Hold on, though. Be a professional, Pat. Congrats to Aleister Black. Aleister Black just won a match. Aleister Black just won a match. They wanted to finish while that was happening,

so the complete opposite of what a watch-along is supposed to be. Distracting from the actual match. That's good. That's good, yeah. It was fun to host those. That was a blast. Jesus Christ. That hurts so bad.

I forgot about that. I forgot about that. That's an immediate. Everybody's real pumped about it. Look at Sam Roberts' fucking face. Hey, Sam. Why are you so happy? Sam Roberts. Lord of the marks.

He is. Is that what they call him? There's nothing wrong. Lord of the marks. He is. He is. Is that what they call him? There's nothing wrong with it, but yeah, he is. It should be a wild weekend. Final four and WrestleMania. Can't be awesome. We're very, very lucky.

Very, very thankful. Tomorrow's show is going to be the dumbest we've ever had. Pumped. Like, that's what I'm predicting. That is. Absolutely. Because with Triple H, it's like, the amount of questions you can talk to him about ideas. You know, hey, you ever think about.

Hear me out. You guys should kill J.D. Hear me out. You know. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of that. And then just the amplification of everything there, because the entire wrestling community descends upon the city in which WrestleMania is.

And with what CM Punk just did on Ariel Hawane's and then AEW last night, I didn't get a chance to see the entire show, but I saw a bunch of clips. They all responded. Every one of them responded to CM Punk. And then now everybody's kind of coming into one... Into Philly.

Not just one city. Philadelphia. It's going to be electrifying. We're very lucky to kind of be a part of it. Grateful. Yeah, let's enjoy that. Good luck to Indiana State tonight. Good luck.

Go get them, Kareem. Come on, buddy. Spandango coming on? I don't think Fandango is on WWE, but he might be wrestling somewhere. I assume he's in somewhere. Don't they usually have other shows going on around? Yeah, like tonight at midnight, I think there's a show that's taking place somewhere,

and then there'll be shows kind of all day. Yeah, I mean, we could potentially make it, but like, yeah, every promotion is trying to get something done this weekend because everybody's there, and all the wrestling fans that spend money on tickets, well, they're already there, so like if we put on a show that is kind of alongside of it we get that's good business right now someone is

getting mentally prepared to go through 16 halogen light bulbs in a sheet of barbed wire in a gymnasium tonight his name is super humming well super humming i don't know if he got booked this weekend he should be but to add on to your point somebody is preparing to also give seven Canadian destroyers in one match to somebody and still lose. To them, we appreciate it. It's all back. That's why we love them.

Let's have an incredible weekend. We'll start it off tomorrow. Thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. Big shout out to P.K. Subban, not Pick Subban. Pick Subban. I don't know why you're looking at me. Dwight Freeney stopped by. That's amazing. Kelsey Plum, thank you for the chatter.

And before we get out of here, breaking news. Kyle Van Noy has signed a two-year deal with the Baltimore Ravens. He's back! He's back! The baby Keith! Last year, we got a chance to chat with KVN a few times, the Baltimore Ravens. He's back. He's back. The baby Keith. Here we go, Keith. Last year, we got a chance to chat with KVN a few times,

both before he was signed to a team and then after he was signed to the Baltimore Ravens. He seemingly loved the culture, loved the team, loved everything about being a Raven quickly. Now he will have another two years of doing as such. He had a great season for them. I think he made a lot of big plays late, too, which I think a lot of Ravens fans

kind of got endeared to the Mormon monster. Kyle Van Noy. We'd like to say congrats, Kyle. Keep it going, man. He deserves it. We like Kyle. I like Kyle a lot. Love Kyle. Kyle's the man. Great personality. Still a great player, too. Good for him,

too, getting a two-year deal. He enjoys giving back to the game, I think. In the the locker room a big part of it is like giving back yeah he's been there for a lot of shit he's always smiling he's always smiling like think about him in the locker room he's always smiling he's always like he always seems to be in a good mood and always like getting better yeah what just a good great teammate great teammate og too so he's been there done that has won so it. So it's like, the guy knows shit. Won and lost. His career started in Detroit, and he was a second-round pick,

and it didn't get off to the way he wanted it to start. He's talked about it here. And then to be able to go win two Super Bowls and then kind of go through like the Miami, kind of feel a little betrayed by what happened in Miami, get cut, and then you go back to New England, bounce around the Chargers, and then find, like, hopefully his final home in Baltimore. Congrats, Kyle. Hey, baby Kyle.

For real. Great player. Great player. All right, be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life, even if that friend shit their pants on national TV this week. Yeah.

Everybody say nice stuff to Dan. Please. Don't even talk about it. At pickup games, you don't have to ask him, like, hey, is there still poop in your pants? Yeah, I agree. But people should say nice stuff to him. Yeah, absolutely.

Like, hey, your fart wasn't terrible. It's okay. We all fart. You should have heard the fart I had this morning. Bet your farts are all great. Grandma in the grocery store comes up to him. What they were saying. I farted. Are we going to see him this weekend?

Is he going to WrestleMania? I thought he said that somewhere. Isn't his wife from Philly? Remember he was angling for the Philadelphia job a lot of people were saying. Remember when he was on TV saying, they need to do this, they need to do that. And everybody's like, hey, Dan, we know what you're doing.

And Dan said, I'm just trying to break down the ball. Yeah. I mean, knowing Dan, he probably is a Cody Crybaby, so he definitely is. No, he looks. Remember he said his sons are all bloodlines. Yeah. His sons, exactly. Because his sons probably get it. Well, they definitely do. You saw him. And then there was that one deep voice.

Who was that? I don't know. Dan's 27-year-old son, apparently. Well, they definitely do. You saw them. And then there's that one deep voice guy. Who is that? I don't know. Dan's 27-year-old son, apparently. Oh, Dan's on the answer now. Too much, too much, he says. What's this all about? I called somebody this morning and an answer was expected. Called back in two minutes. He might not. Dan's not going to do that.

He won't. Son of a bitch. He might be in the bathroom. Good chance. Might be dumping. Eagles and left tackle Jordan Mayotta reached an agreement on a three-year $66 million extension that includes $48 million guaranteed

in a $20 million signing bonus per sources via Adam Schefter. Hey, congratulations. Former rugby player. Guy didn't even play football. Nope. First year everybody in Philly is making fun of him. Oh, congratulations. Former rugby player. Guy didn't even play football. First year, everybody in Philly is making fun of him. Oh, this accountant's signing a damn rugby player to protect Carson Wentz, I believe is who it was.

And then now look at him. One of the greatest offensive linemen in the league. Congrats to him. What a beautiful story. That's a beautiful American football story. And we were talking the other day how many rugby guys have worked. That's on us. We need to remember this. Milota, he's the guy. He's first one maybe this what wales kid kid from wales luis reese ruiz ruiz massett luis reese zamit reese zamit ah we were so he's from wales

not ireland no no no. Definitely not England. No. The other one. Not even Scotland. Nope. Or Northern Ireland. The UK. He's a Welshman.

He's from Wales. Do they speak Welsh? I think I'm pretty sure it's, I could be wrong, but I believe it's English, but it's just like the accent is much different. I pissed off the entire country the other day when I said he was from Ireland. Oh, who cares? Oh, I didn't. That was certainly a thing.

Because I knew I'd be able to make it right. But my answer to them, the Welsh people, was like, I didn't fucking know this guy existed. I am so sorry. I should. This guy's running a 4-4. This guy's an absolute dog. I can't wait to see if it works out. But it's not that I didn't know your country didn't exist,

which a lot of people are telling me. I'm a dumb American. I didn't even know Wales was a country. Well, Wales is definitely an animal in the sea, big. Wales is, I thought, a city. But it is a country. Fucking tiny. It's like smaller than Rhode Island.

Country that didn't make the Euros. Oh, what? No, it didn't. They didn't make the Euros? No, sir. It's because Gareth is done. They didn't make the Europes? No, sir. It's because Gareth is done. They don't have Gareth Bale. I remember Gareth Bale.

He's a dog. And I do think FIFA probably is the thing that introduced a lot of people to a lot of countries. For sure. Definitely is. So back in the day, maybe nobody would have known Wales existed, but we knew. Yeah. We knew. Couldn't point it out on a map if we fucking tried.

No chance. But now that I know it's smaller than Rhode Island, I can probably guess. I don't know if that's necessarily true, but I'm pretty sure it's smaller. Oh, so we're still making stuff up? Nah, it's small. It's small. Where is it? It's east of England?

They're all part of the UK, northeast, right? Hey, she's alive, right? We all do. Kate? Yeah. Good luck with the treatment. Yeah. I was on news last night.

I watched it on news last night. 20 years in stardom. She's been in the limelight. Now she's obviously battling. What's that? Well, you were one of the ones that maybe should acknowledge. Who? I always do.

I acknowledge your bloodline. I'm happy she's... Well, you know, I'm not happy she's going through cancer. But I think I'm happy she's not what a lot of people said was potentially happening. Hole in the head in some ditch somewhere.

Some people. There's a lot of things being said on the internet. The internet was going real quick. Real fast. Real far. No, it wasn't. Connor. I didn't say that. The internet was going real quick, real fast, real far. No, I wasn't. Connor was reading it all, though. His algae was like, wait till you see this. Wait till you see this.

I'd walk in here, there'd be a new thing that potentially happened to the Duchess of Wales. Wait till you hear what's going to happen Monday. Is she from Wales? Yeah. I have no idea. Is that? Is it Essex? I think she's Sussex.

Sussex? Sussex? There it is. Who's? All right. Anyways, happy to hear that. Yeah? I think she's Sussex. Sussex? There it is. All right. Anyways, happy to hear that. I didn't know that that was official. I thought it is. This morning news.

I saw it all. The Today Show. Oh, yeah. She is the princess of Wales. So she's from Wales. Why is con man so quiet? He's biting his tongue. Has your cat got your tongue, con?

No, not at all. I completely agree with what you're saying. I'm happy she's alive. We're back tomorrow. Congrats to Jordan. Congrats to Kyle Van Noy. Congrats to Team USA working in Cleveland. Right.

Yes. Congrats to Dwight Freeney being in the Hall of Fame, playing more golf. He plays a lot of golf. Yeah. You say he's terrible. Yeah. I have a feeling he's sandbagging. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he's terrible. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going to say that. I was going lot of golf. You say he's terrible. I don't think he's terrible. Well,

you can feel like you're terrible too, depending upon where... If he plays every day and he's shooting like 85, maybe 83, that might be terrible. Yeah, but who are you playing with? Because he might be playing with really good golfers. So then you're like, I suck at golf. Compared to who?

Us or the people you play golf with every single day? Relative. So today, we do have to make an announcement. We do. We thought it was Big Perk Thursday. Didn't we? Sure did. We thought it was Big Perk Mania Thursday.

Yeah. Oh, God. I actually said something to him. I said, hey. So pumped. Motherfucker. So pumped for Big perks on Thursday. Celtics clinched the one seed.

We learned yesterday that his schedule had changed, and it was going to be difficult for him to make it out here on Thursday. Because my original thought was this Thursday. And then it was like, no, there's been a change in the schedule. So we don't know what big's been a change in the schedule. So, we don't know what Big Perk Thursday looks like in the future, but we do know that one time

out of the three weeks, it was awesome. We love you, Perk. Love you, Perk. Hopefully we'll be able to make something happen in the future. I thought it was great. He's awesome. He gets it. That's right. I was so good. He's awesome. He gets it. Oh, yeah. That's right.

I was so happy. Schedule changes. Like, who's making the schedule? Who's doing the... Yeah. Shouldn't that be a... Well, then we hear from... I mean, nonetheless.

Hey, Perk, we love you, buddy. Love you, Perk. He was great. Yes, he was. Perfect. Mm-hmm. Seriously, fit in right away, and that never happens. Yeah, I'm looking over at him right now.

He's on TV. I think that's the schedule that changed. It probably might be. Could be. Ooh. Yeah, I'm looking over at him right now. He's on TV. I think that's the schedule of change. It probably might be. Yeah, there's something else going on. Okay. There he is. Look, he's still here with us, kind of. What show is he on right now?

NBA Today. There he is. There he is. Hey, Bert looks good. He does look good. There he is, too. He's in L.A. with Wendy. We're going to miss him.

Yep. We're bummed out. Very bummed out. No, we're bummed out. B. with Wendy. We're going to miss him. Yep. We're bummed out. Very bummed out. Know that we're bummed out. Bummed out. It was not on our side. We met with, what? Kind of heartbreak.

Yeah, for sure. But for Perk, it's going to be good, I assume. His agent. Yeah, so that's going to be good for him. Yeah. All right. Love you, Perk. Love you, Perk.

Miss you, Perk. Can't wait to watch you on TV, Perk. We'll continue to do so. Speaking of, we'll be on TV tomorrow with the most absurd show we've ever put together. Hopefully, you'll Perk. Love you, Perk. Miss you, Perk. Can't wait to watch you on TV, Perk. We'll continue to do so. Speaking of, we'll be on TV tomorrow with the most absurd show we've ever put together. Hopefully, you'll join us. From all of us to all of you, you're the nicest people on earth. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice.

It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.