The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1109 - The Masters Recap, UFC 300 Recap, UFC BMF Champion Max Holloway, Jeff Passan, Shams Charania, CC Sabathia, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 15, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about Scottie Scheffler dominating The Masters and winning his 2nd Green Jacket in 3 years, how important the golf course is as a character to the tournament, UFC 300 being an unbelievable card, some of the different stories floating around the NFL, and much more. Joining the progrum fresh off arguably the greatest knockout in the history of the UFC is former Featherweight Champion of the World and NEW BMF Champion, Max Holloway to chat about the fight, winning the BMF title, his career as a whole, when he’s looking to get into the Octagon next, and much more (28:24-47:43). Later, ESPN MLB Insider, Jeff Passan joins the show to chat about the award he was just presented, all the elbow injuries to pitchers in the bigs, why it’s an issue that goes all the way to youth baseball, initiatives the MLB is doing in conjunction with Jackie Robinson Day, Angel Hernandez facing heat, and everything else going on in the majors (1:10:29-1:56:35). Next, NBA Insider for Stadium, and The Athletic, Shams Charania joins the show to chat about the NBA Playoffs and everything we need to know before the play-in games kick off (2:10:57-2:23:04). Lastly, 6x All-Star, World Series Champion, Cy Young winner, and MLB Analyst for MLB Network, CC Sabathia joins the show to give his take on the elbow injuries, why he ultimately decided to play baseball, why he always was dominant on Jackie Robinson Day, and how important these early season games are (2:27:50-2:45:03). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our Humble the Bone, the Thunderdome, on this BLF Monday, April 15th, 2024. This sports program starts now. Sports! Our wonderful, what an incredible weekend. We obviously had a four-day weekend because we took off Thursday and Friday to watch the Masters of Golf coverage, which is happening on ESPN, into CBS, and ESPN+. We're certainly going to talk about that. The NBA playoff picture has come into tact.

We're certainly going to talk about that. There's NFL news happening all around the league as OTAs start for teams who have the same head coach that they had last year on this particular beautiful day. And I got news for you. An Ayahuasca-tripping hippie quarterback is in the building in New Jersey for the New York Jets. There's also maybe a Tom Brady coming back to the NFL convo. Whoa!

Well, yeah, he's talking to a barber, and that kind of popped out of there. And then there's MLB talk because baseball is taking place in the time frame in which we're talking about sports right now. Jet Passon will join us in the second hour. He won a piece of metal this weekend. He did. Congratulations to him. C.C. Jet Passon will join us in the second hour. He won a piece of metal this weekend. He did. Congratulations to him. CeCe Sabathia will join us in the third hour.

And, ladies and gentlemen, we have the BMF title holder for the UFC, blessed man himself, Max Holloway, joining us in about 19 minutes or so, fresh off an electrifying knockout with.01 second left in the fifth round of a five-round fight for the bmf title something that was absolutely perfect for the ufc and mixed martial arts it's a loaded day and i'm incredibly lucky to be here the toxic table is here at boston connor at ty schmidt con man love what you're doing on your chest right now pal yeah thank you very much this is actually one of those shirts that I wore that I said I didn't love as much and you guys jumped on me.

So I figured I'd wear it today. You know, Raw is in Canada tonight. Montreal tonight. Montreal. Montreal tonight. Found the passport. Shout out to Samantha McAfee. That thing had been in drawers

that hadn't been opened for years. And they said, are you going to be at Raw next week? I was like, absolutely. Where is it? And then they said, Montreal, Canada. I was like, ooh, passport is it? And then they said, Montreal, Canada. I was like, ooh, passport.

You're going to need that. You need that to get in. I've been going to Canada a long time. I used to just drive in. You used to be able to just do an ID for a weekend trip. You're going to do your thing. Coming back into America was normally much more difficult than getting into Canada. But since it's for work and I'm probably going to get taxed my ass off,

I'm going to need a passport to get in there. Had no idea if my passport existed. Okay, happy with being in America. Where do you vacation at, America? Are you going to leave anywhere? Maybe, hopefully. Love other countries, just don't plan on going anywhere for a while, especially in the middle of a run.

So that passport was tucked away. Thought it was gone. Told Michael Cole six days ago, yeah, that passport is gone. That thing's gone, gone, pal. Can't even get there. Turns out Samantha McAfee was able to find it, which is an incredible gift, because getting a chance to go to Montreal and experience a Canadian crowd again, can't wait for it.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, unfortunately for that crowd, you know, Chad Gable's going to beat the shit out of Sami Zayn tonight, but I mean, hey, that's something that they'll settle in the square of the audience. Yeah, and I'm going to speak a little French, too. Bonjour, ça va, je m'appelle Pat. You know, et toi, et tu, you know, the whole thing.

Où est la bibliothèque? Where's the library? Yeah, that's pretty good. That's a good one. I also sent Ariel Hawani a DM this weekend because he offered up his mom's tortellini because he's from Montreal. And he said that I respond. I said, Tamer Torolini, a très magnifique?

And he said, bravo. I said, your mom's Torolini is very magnificent? He said, bravo. I said, oui, oui. I took four, five, six years of French. Need the word bank. But tonight, it's all coming out. That's right.

Has to. Got three hours of Monday Night Raw. Exactly. Cannot wait to do you know, do the whole thing. It should be a blast. But sports are crushing it. One half of the hammer. Cowboys tone Diggs is here. And a man who has the biggest brain in the yard,

no matter what yard he's in, especially if it's a football yard. Ladies and gentlemen, nine-year NFL vet. Big brain behind everything DB. Good D, bad D. Looks really cool today. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Baller vet. Big brain behind everything DB, good D, bad D. Looks really cool today. Ladies and gentlemen, Dave Spaller. Hey, D-Botch.

D-Botch, it's 80 degrees out today. That's why the tank top made an appearance again. It is a wonderful time of year. But this is just what you call every day down in South Florida. Hoodie, sweats. How are you sweating your ass off up here? It's cold as hell in here, per usual. So it doesn't really matter what's going on outside.

But I will enjoy it later, fresh off this Masters weekend. I'll see how low I can shoot today. Hey, great transition. Excited to see what you do on the golf course. At Butler Birdies, him and his whole family play golf every day. Does anybody work? I love it. I love what you guys are doing.

Good scheduling. Absolutely. You got to get the time in. I actually put a tweet out while I was watching the Masters of Golf. I said, I yearn for a day. I don't think I used those words, but you get it. It's the same message. I yearn for the chapter of life in which it's

just me and the kid or kids and the lads just golfing every day. What a perfect time. What a perfect thing to shoot for. What a perfect thing to work for. The vibes are just immaculate. The views, phenomenal. And you're outside.

The birds are chirping, especially down in Augusta National. People were saying that they were piping in birds. What? People were saying it's fake bird chirps. You can see that. Because the birds are so perfect. Had the dogs barking all damn afternoon. They thought a bird was in the house.

Cats were up on all fours doing the cat-cow thing because they thought a bird had snuck into the crib and they were about to go back that thing down because how good the chirps were sounding in the house. Watched all weekend. It was the perfect background. Whenever I got to hang out with the baby and the wife, you're on the phone, do some crafts. You got golf in the background. You hear the patrons lose their mind on the first nine or the second nine. Whenever they hit it into sand, bunkers, whatever the hell they call it. It was phenomenal. But nothing is as phenomenal

as watching Scotty Scheffler golf. Let me tell you why. People say this guy is a wet blanket. Understandable. It's true. Yeah, you can see that description being accurate. People say this guy is a nerd. This guy is terrible for the face of golf.

I say nay. I agree. I say absolutely not. When you watch this bearded bastard play golf, and we don't know if his wife has had a baby or not, but nonetheless, congrats to the entire Stratford fan. He's won nine tourneys since 2022 in the PGA. He's obviously won the Masters in two of his five starts at the Masters.

He is a guy, though, that people, whenever he talks, they're not entertained by. I think he's a man of the Lord. Obviously, he's doing this to empower Jesus Christ. He's going crazy. He pulled me here, which we respect and appreciate. But he's not about the antics. On the golf course, he's not going to lose his mind. He is going to swing out of his shoes, but once he starts going to work, it is mesmerizing. It is hypnotic. So for those of you that don't think he's the right

guy to be the face of golf, I don't think you watch him play golf enough because when he has that club in his hand and he's about 89 to 96 yards away on the ninth hole of the master's sunday one in which the entire course had been beating the shit out of the rest of the golfers the winds crazy the greens are firm they're making this like a u.s open course well on sunday the leader said let me put this in now the golf god screwed him yeah they did yeah golf god him. I don't appreciate the fact that that ball kind of rolls a different direction. Then you think to yourself, well, that's just one lucky shot from this guy. He actually said in a press conference, I hadn't been hitting my irons that well. Then he got a birdie on eight, gets a birdie on nine, gets a birdie on ten.

Then he goes to 14. This is after Max Homa, Morikawa, and everybody kind of falls apart because Augusta National had been getting everybody. Maybe Scheffler will finally look like a human playing golf. Uh-uh. I'm rolling this thing from how far? 100 what? That was 153.

153 yards to four inches on Masters Sunday on hole 14 when everybody else around him is crumbling. This dude. How excited is he? Locked in. He's jacked up. Job's not done yet. No need to bring up the wet blanket stuff, which I think you were just doing right there. Because once again, this

bearded golfer doesn't need to open his mouth ever again. Just play golf, Scotty. Here's 16. Par 3. Patrons are filing in. Wow, we're about to see a second green jacket in five starts here, aren't we? Oh, maybe the 16th hole will get them.

A lot of water to the left, Scotty. You slip out of your shoes and hook one. It's going to be a bad day. Maybe Ludwig Oberg can catch up. Scotty says, sweet, I'm going to put this one to eight feet, and then I'm going center cup. Remember, everybody's talking about my putter not being as great as everybody else's. Get off my ass, says Scotty Scheffler.

And obviously, you got to finish on the 18th hole. And whenever you see this man put the putt away, and he and his caddy, Tim something, who got a chance to lead him out through the patrons because his family wasn't there, hug and embrace. I think there is a chance that right here, caddy says, hey, go tell that baby that daddy's a champion. You know? I think there was a little bit of embrace because you saw him get a little bit emotional. And you saw, hey, all you son of a...

And he has to be professional. Let me tip the cap to the patrons. But you talked about emotion. The robot, the AI, the man who's in the zone when he's on the golf course can't be showing emotion on the 14th hole, 16th hole. He shows his emotion after he's very kind. You should take off your hat when you talk to Scotty Scheffler, pal.

But nonetheless, look at this right here, right here. Do it. Yep. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. There we go. Yeah. That's all the emotion you need. That's all we need. When the job is done, Scotty lost his mind.

That's all we need. When the job is done, Scotty lost his mind. When he was just hours, we think, ahead of becoming a father for the first time, after defeating a course that had defeated everybody else, he showcased his emotion. He showcased his happiness. He showcased to the world that this man does understand that what he's doing is awesome and he's taking it in. Congrats, Scotty.

You're not ready to go scoot. That was fun to watch. Unreal. Literally, anybody that says he's not it in. Congrats, Scotty. You're not ready to go scoot. That was fun to watch. Yeah, unreal. Literally, anybody that says he's not the right guy, like you're not watching the golf. You catch the highlights. You catch the press conference, but you're not spending all day Sunday watching.

I woke up with Tiger and Neil Shipley on ESPN. Yeah, sweet. Okay, I was watching that. Tiger, obviously unraveling, had to make the cut so that Sunday Red could make an appearance on Sunday. And he also has 24 consecutive cuts, which is the most in history.

Congrats to Tiger. It's an honor watching you golf. But it did feel like it was a pro-am, almost. It felt like it was a pro-am with him and Neil Shipman. Now, that wouldn't be the case just like, what, five years ago, six, seven years ago with Tiger Woods. But now he's at the point of life, I think, where he understands, like, hey, this is probably the biggest day of this kid's life. Yeah, for sure.

In the caddy, who's 20 years old, who just so happened to go to Central Catholic in Pittsburgh alongside Neil Shipley. He's not even a real caddy. No. He's just kind of, hey, you want to come caddy for me? He ends up walking the course with Tiger. It was like, it was a beautiful weekend. Thank you to the Masters of Golf for putting it on. And congrats to Scotty for cementing himself as an absolute monster in a machine, potentially,

as John Rahm of Liv had to put the green jacket on PGA Tour's baby face. Scotty Sheffler, no interaction between them whenever they were in the cabin doing the conversation afterwards. Nothing. Nothing. Not a one. Neil Shipley was keeping the cabin doing the conversation afterwards. Nothing. Nothing. Not a one. Neil Shipley was keeping an eye on the live playback. He was. And I think a producer should have potentially told him

before he went live, like, hey, Pop, this is real. You don't need to see it. Because Neil is a little bigger guy. Got good hair. Probably wondering how he... Oh, my God. That was great. I don't know what he did, but he's guilty.

He's in there with Nance. I think the only thing he's guilty of is displaying the fact that he has phenomenal periphery. The ability to get both eyes that far. Because, remember, his left eye right now is doing nothing. His left eye is staring at the other side of his nose. Yeah, exactly. This is an all right-eyed job. He's trying to figure out whether or not he's actually on TV with these guys.

So a little media training probably as we go forward. But Neil Shipley hit some beautiful shots. Cheeky shots alongside Tiger Woods. But I would say the Augusta National folks got to be feeling as if they put on an excellent weekend. The wind kicked ass. The horse kicked ass. And Scotty Sheffler did the entire weekend.

I agree with you 100% on Scotty. Because, I mean, Tiger was feisty. When you go Tiger and feisty and you go Tigey, I don't mind that at all. Well, he was a little Tigey. There was a couple Tigey shots. He had to go to work for hours and hours and hours Saturday night just to get out there on Sunday.

So Tiger did what he could do to put on a face on Sunday. But, Scotty, he personally isn't as feisty as Rahm or Tiger or some of the past champions have been. But his game is. On 14, when he hit it, he put it that close from 153 out. All in my mind, I was like, Scotty, you dog, you. That's all. His game and the way he swings out of his shoes,

that is the feisty part of Scotty's game. And just on nine, the one where you talked about the golf gods from 89 out, that was when there were three at the top that were seven under a piece. They kept trying to answer, and then Scotty just put it on top of them all day long. That's how his game speaks. Then finally,

I don't know if it was relief or whatever at the end when he did yell. He is just a stone-cold assassin all day long. Killer whenever he hits these. Friend of mine, somebody I know, potentially birdied nine. Really? Potentially.

Wow. Okay. Close friend? Is it a close friend? Yeah, real close. Source is very close to person. Also birdied nine. Did not do it in the same fashion.

But you didn't reel it back? Did not do it in the same fashion. Same score on the card. Exactly. Didn't pull. Exactly. We both got circle on nine. That's right. And the same fashion. Same score on the card. Exactly. Didn't pull. We both got circled on the button. That's right.

And then we just, well, whoever I'm talking about got circled on the button and moved along. But it's like, D-Butch, this is why you play the game. And I was completely out on playing golf ever again. Remember? Still am. That was just like a week ago. So that's you.

Yep. So I watched the Masters for four straight days. I'm like, that sport's awesome. Every single shot is a new game. It's a brand new game. And then you get to the green. It's a whole new sport. And then you have to go immediately from that to driver.

And if you just so happen to miss, you're completely screwed. Scotty didn't put himself in a situation to gain four straight. Morikawa put himself in there. 12, back-to-back, person i know wow the person i know that played uh augusta national down in a tough hole you play two times tough hole brutal thin green you know not a big land the guy i know actually bladed it the second day okay and it hit the mind in front and then actually that's part yeah absolutely perfect what you want to do yeah par par though you know missed a couple putts from what i've been told so whenever

you see home i get all jacked up yep and how could you not did you see that crowd down there gorgeous huge crowd not a phone in sight no there was no one not a phone in sight and i understand that i'm a human that is on my phone and our business is on a lot of people's phone. Obviously I've been a X in Twitter user more than maybe 99.9999999% of humans on earth. So I'm not saying I'm not guilty of this myself, but I am at a stage of life now where I am trying to just enjoy every moment. Now I'm not saying this is brand new, but it's like in the moment, I want to live here. I want my brain to remember what my brain remembers. And if it's being documented, I'm going to try to find footage so that we can have it or whatever and I can have it.

But it's like I want to remember the feeling whenever I'm here having this moment. And it's like Augusta National forces that upon people. And in droves, everybody still shows a lot of tippy toes in the back. If you're zooming, a lot of tippy toes. High hats, too. Head tipped back like Drew Brees in the pocket. A lot of tippy toes. You know, a lot of that potentially happening.

But, yeah, that was a beautiful moment to watch. It was crazy. And it got me completely back into golf. This weekend, I'm all the way back. I'm like, you know what? Am I playing at the American Century Championship? Last week, no way in hell am I wasting my life in doing it. I'm a terrible golfer.

It's four days. My toes bruise. My feet get blistered. I suck. It's not fun. Sunday's the worst day of anything I've ever been a part of because I have to walk this seven-mile course, and it means nothing. It means absolutely nothing.

And then we're waiting to get on a plane that is five hours. So far. It's just like everything about it sucks, you know? But the setup is awesome. Yeah, sure. The vibes are immaculate. Good, bright. The views are great.

Yeah, breathtaking. The people are fantastic. And then you watch the Masters of Golf and it's like, yeah, this is a sport I want to keep playing. You've picked it up and dove in completely. Head first, yep. But I will say, with your allegiance to one particular tour over another, Liv got their asses beat this week. No, they didn't.

Dee Shambo was supposed to be the guy. Top five. And he's using illegal clubs, too. They were legal. They got cleared. And he jumped out to a hot start. $10,000 clubs. Three deep.

It was great, man. It was great to see, especially a new fan of the game, to see all the big-time players playing in it. The different storylines, the live guys. Homer possibly winning his first one. Oberg is a dog. First-ever major. Yeah.

Incredible. 24. Colin. Bright future. Been paired up with Scotty to finish it off. But Scotty, I mean, he's just a robot. I give him shit about not you know, not being excited. But my favorite football player is like that, Barry Sanders,

when it comes to running back position. Tim Duncan, kind of similar. So if your game kind of speaks for itself, it does. Maybe the answer is an alternate broadcast with you talking over him when he's hitting. Maybe you'd be his alter ego or something. But he is a phenomenal, phenomenal golfer. And you mentioned it.

It was kind of back and forth. And I think on sunday what do you have seven eight birdies on sunday yeah three straight eight nine ten and i think seven in total there was one hole that was a three-stroke swing yep i think it was nine it was yeah i think it was nine when i put it ended up in the sand and then the job that the masters does like with the coverage the website the app the the shots like that shot of Scottie, that ball rolling back, that slow motion view, all of it is dope. This is only my second Masters watching it. I'm pissed off that I missed

the last 38 of my years of life not watching this Masters Sunday. I'm already looking forward to the next one. This is dope. Once again, the golf where they got to figure it out. They got to figure out how to get these two tours together and play against each other on a much more often basis. Tiger said that the meeting down

in the Bahamas was positive. He thinks all parties left there with a much more much better feeling of how everything is going to go. That was obviously Liv meeting the Yassir, leader of the PIF, which is the fund that Saudi Arabia has

for sports. Correct. Bottomless pit. Basically. That's what they said. That's what they told us. They told us off the record, on the record, they told us, remember how Olive Garden used to have bottomless soups and salads? Yeah, exactly.

That's what they got, but just with money. I'm like, what's that? They're like, it's just money in there. Well, how many are we talking they're like whatever number you make up go ahead go ahead start counting right now and then we'll catch up with you three years from now still yep yep still got it still got it what kind of return are you looking for in an investment well so I think what everybody's saying is and I guess CM Punk kind of alluded to this with some businesses that are being run by people that have a lot of money.

It's like it's not necessarily just looking to make money. It's like wanting to create something awesome. Sure. You know, like that is the thought of the person that is with the money. Now, do I believe that Liv inevitably will make money off of their investment? Yes. Absolutely. Because I think live sports and golf are only going up into the right, just like everything else.

But them pairing with PGA would certainly help expedite the entire return of investment for them. Now, I think the courses matter. Big time. So, I think that's why Augusta National showing up in the way that it did. And some people, like, look at this shot. You talked about the way they captured it. This is between two trees. Sweet. There's a birdie, one of seven he had on talked about the way they captured it. This is between two trees. Sweet. There's a birdie.

One of seven he had on set. So awesome. Just right there. Like, just such a beautiful shot. Such a wonderful shot. Nobody's really acting like assholes in the crowd. No. I wonder why that is. You get kicked out. You get thrown out. Never can come back. You get banned? You're not allowed to run on the

course. You know, some courses. Oh, yeah. I saw that. The guy who was running the course. Boy, did they get him and he's gone for life. You think both feet can be off the ground at the same time? Not a chance. Absolutely not. In Augusta? Because that is the Olympic rules for speed walking. One of your feet have to be on the ground at all times.

So that's why the speed walking method is what it is. Because when you're running, both feet in sky because you're galloping and leaping. So they reviewed the footage. That son of a bitch. Yep, yep. If he had cleats on, if he had golf cleats on, maybe skim the ground or whatever. But yeah, he got out of there.

You're right. I completely forgot about that. By the way, though, shout out to the trees for not falling this year. Yep, that was big. And shout out to the trees shaking Tiger Woods' hands. Yeah, that was cool. That was very cool.

And that's Vern Lundquist. This photo just happens to be one of the greatest. He celebrated and is retiring. Yeah, that was cool. That was very cool. And that's Vern Lundquist. This photo just happens to be one of the greatest. He celebrated and is retiring 40 years calling a master. Shout out, Vern.

Obviously, college football, happy Gilmore, you name it, he's been in there. And I just thought immediately what I would say if I could go shake a tree, Sam.

I'd drive an electric vehicle and be the first thing coming out of my mouth. I mean, just let them know I'm on your team. From what I've been told, now allegedly there's kids dying potentially to make the batteries, but nonetheless.

Saving the trees. I've been told I'm saving you. And I don't write or read books either. I don't like that they spend all that paper on stuff. So don't worry about that. I'm on your side is what I would say. Great photo, great weekend, great memories, great tournament, I think, for everybody down there in Augusta.

Yeah, not to get lost, too. The reason I wasn't saying no,, they shouldn't, you know, merge the live and PGA. They have to do that. But as long as the beef stays. Because Wyndham Clark, after Thursday, being like, well, you know, who knows? Because, you know, the live guys play 54 holes,

and this is a 72-hole course. And then immediately shooting, like, plus seven to miss the cut. Eight over, yeah, miss the cut. Yeah, I mean, that type of thing, like, that stuff for Wyndham, of course, sucks. He's going to figure it out. He's great. But, like, that beef on tour, I, missed the cut. Yeah, I mean, that type of thing, like that stuff for Wyndham, of course, sucks. He's going to figure it out. He's great. But, like, that beef on tour, I think, is incredible.

And, like, the majors, like, their courses are awesome. Liv needs to do a $50 million major and have the purse be that big. First place gets $30 million. Like, if their thing is the money, then they need to build their major to make the purse the biggest in history. It's bigger than the FedEx Cup. Yeah, make it $50 million. Make it $50 million. Everybody's thing is the money, then they need to build their major to make the purse the biggest in history. It's bigger than the FedEx Cup. Yeah, make it 50 million. Make it 50 million.

Everybody's showing up for that. Well, exactly. You can also put over a course, too. We were just talking about the courses. They've got to start selling the courses that they're playing. Because the course is the one playing against everybody. Like Augusta National beat everybody this week. That was kind of the big takeaway.

Especially the wind. Yeah, the wind helped. Mother Nature came in and helped. But like Augusta National, how it week. Yeah. That was kind of the big takeaway. Especially the wind. Yeah, the wind helped. Mother Nature came in and helped. But, like, Augusta National, how it was playing, it was difficult. And it's like all these legendary courses the PGA has built up relationships with. And as a viewer, you know the course. Like, I don't want to say, you know, Fire, Thorn, going to Hole 16 or, like, Lit, Storm, or whatever the hell they name all these damn holes and everything.

But you at least know it, and you know what it is. So whenever they just drop into these cities on these brand new courses, everybody's like, it's hard to get credit to the court. Like, it's just like rolling fields in Mario Kart. Yeah, tough one. Like, I don't really know the course. I think they need to start putting over the courses more. As I watched this weekend, I thought.

For sure, because I don't know about all the, I mean, D-Butt, you know, you've been to a couple of them, but it feels like most of these places that they play at like while they are challenging courses like for the most part they're kind of like resort courses you know it's like that every damn near every stop on the pga like there is a course there that's very difficult that's challenging that always challenges some of the players and a lot of people are saying and who knows if it's true but they were like well maybe that's part of the reason that by and large live didn't fare well at Augusta this year because these guys are used to playing easier courses you know we're when they're they're the best in the world obviously they can go out

and dominate these you know courses in Miami or wherever and then you get down to Augusta and it's like you you kind of miss that when you're not on the PGA when they have these very very difficult courses that regular golfers would just chop it up every single week. And I think you do miss a little bit of that because they're just playing it kind of whatever's available and whatever's left over. Sources close to somebody that played on

Augusta National, 120 or something like that. Wow. 120. Bingo. Not a lot of cheat or fluff or roll or anything. No winner rolls a lot. No, no, no. It was – The Mulligans. Got to finish it out. Top 20 what?

It was about five, six live golfers in the top 20. Yes. Brooks had a – Hatton. I was excited to see Brooks kind of get going. Hatton was hilarious. Obviously, he's back with the same old tricks. He's the man.

He just can't help himself. Sam Smith and Bryson were the ones that were in the top 10. Yep. How about Zach Johnson? That guy stinks. Yeah, so what's his deal? I didn't know he won. I forgot he won the Masters of Golf.

Yeah. I forgot because he told a story about sleeping in a green jacket the night he won and everything like that. He wore jeans, I think, on the live with Regis and Kelly. Okay. Might have been Ryan and Kelly at that point. Rest in peace, Regis. Rest in peace.

Hell of a run. Love you, Regis. Love you, Regis. Regis, a hell of a run. He did. He was on TV more than any human in history. Yes, he was. Who you, Regis. Love you, Regis. Regis, that hell of a run. He did. He was on TV more than any human in history.

Yes, he was. Who wants to be a millionaire? Oh, yeah. Remember? He has actual

Guinness World Record for most amount of time on television out of any human in history. Wow. Legend.

People say I'm going for it, but there's a lot of me. Yeah, well, we just had a conversation before.

I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa. Whoa. Now it's not the time. It came up. It came up. Now, rest in peace, Regis. Thank you. Hey, Regis. Thank you for before I mean that John's been doing that that's that is not thank you reach time show like stunk, but he knew it. He knew it as he was in it. It was kind of just like the end of the entire thing. The love of the game. Thank you, Reach.

Thank you, Reach. Love you, Reach. They were launching an entire sports network with that show. Colin Cowherd and Regis Philbin launching a sports network. Now, they're still going obviously. People watch them. And that show ended, but Regis

Regis' legacy will never die. Never. Even though we're very grateful and appreciative. This weekend, I don't know if you haven't seen it. What's that? So you watched Masters of Golf on Saturday. Yep. And then UFC 300 started at like 6.30.

Yeah, right on the money. It was perfect. It's nice to just have a nice day with the baby in the house, the wife in the house, hang out, have a good time with good sports on all day. It's like whenever the NFL is in England. You wake up, oh, there's a game on.

This is awesome. What's next? Oh, there's another game on. Then what? Oh, there's another game on. Oh, there's primed. Oh my God. All day? I have shit to watch? Yeah, even if the game stinks. So what? Who cares?

It's in the background. I'm enjoying it. That's what Saturday was. Got to watch a match of golf, and then UFC 300 delivered. UFC 300 was banger after banger after banger after banger after banger after banger after banger i think there's probably four more fights that's literally what it was and they were billing it as the biggest card that ufc has had in 300 events congratulations to everybody over there unreal from the fortitas and obviously the sale to uh endeavor and then TKO and Dana White guiding the ship through this entire thing.

And upping the bonuses to $300,000 in celebration of UFC 300. And a lot of people are saying, you talk about banger after banger after banger after banger after banger. Maybe it's because there was $300,000, their face could go get them if they went out there and did it. Alex Pereira, the fucking... It's hard not to. It really is. Combat sport. The main event, Pereira tells the ref, hey, excuse

me. I just got hit in the dong. I get it. But I don't need to take a break. Go ahead and run this, please. Tells him, excuse me, I'm good. He kicked me in the dick. It's okay. And... Boom! First round, knock take it. Excuse me. I'm good. I'm good. He kicked me in the dick. It's okay. It's okay. And boom! Boom!

First round knockout to cap off UFC 300. Little grind. Little pound. How you doing? How you doing? And my favorite is Kabi Lama. Kabi. Kabi Lama. But the star of the night.

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is the former featherweight champion of the world, but now the baddest mother in the UFC, Us from Hawaii. Ladies and gentlemen, Max Holloway. How are you, Us? What's up, Pat, brother? I'm good, brother. How are you feeling? How are you feeling here? What's up, Pat, brother? I'm good, brother. How are you feeling?

How are you feeling here two days removed, well, I guess less than two days removed from that battle with Gaethje? I'm feeling like the blessed man forever. That's how I'm feeling right now. That's amazing. Leg kind of hurts, man. I got kicks like a horse. You saw a lot of that.

Obviously, that's going to be a tactic kind of take away your base especially with how hard you throw let's get right to it and i know the boys have some questions as well about you know your career and everything but i just want to talk about the moment that electrified the entire world the moment that locked in six hundred thousand dollars in bonuses max at the end of this baddest motherfucker fight, okay, the BMF title, you point to the middle of the ring and you say, hey, let's end this thing right here. Not the first time you've done this. I think UFC 199, you did the same thing against Ricardo Lamas where you go,

hey, let's go meet in the middle of this thing. Yup, right here. We're going to end this and it's the same exact exchange almost. Is this just what you feel like you need to do? Are you're going to end this, and it's the same exact exchange almost? Is this just what you feel like you need to do? Are you obligated to do this? And in that moment, is it just like, yeah, one of us needs to get knocked the f*** out here?

Yeah, brother. You're fighting for the BMF title. You gotta look at this. None of us is stepping back. We're destroying and coming to each other. It's the it's a bit more tighter brother what do you expect? Did you guys have an agreement beforehand?

Like, was there a conversation like hey, if this gets to the fifth round and it's the end of this, we are meeting in the middle and we are throwing bombs at each other or is it just kind of understood? Nah, I think it's understood especially with Gaethje, you know I was telling myself, if we went to the fit round that last 10 seconds

I was going to point down and you know swing for the fences just being able to share Octagon with him is just he's a legend man he's a legend I don't know if I'm ever going to share Octagon with him ever again and UFC 300 the biggest card for probably the next

decade the BMF title if this is not BMF worthy, I don't know what is. Well, it certainly, hey, you're a BMF. I have been. 29 fights in the UFC. Obviously, 2012, you make your debut. I went through and read your resume again. You had four fights in the year 2012, and then you had like three. You're just a, how'd you get into this?

How do we start this entire thing? Do you feel like you're representing for all the islands of Hawaii whenever you step in there, and if you let them down, you can't fly back? Like, what is the mindset, and how did you get into this? For sure, for sure, you know, from the islands for the islands, you know, so that's just what it is, you know, where I'm from. Why not Hawaii? I mean, everybody always says a joke, you know, when the UFC gyms came down to Oahu, Hawaii, they said, oh, look, the first UFC gym. That was a lie. The first UFC gym was why not high school where we from, man?

The kids just fighting all the time. So I got into it. I got into it because I just wanted to be able to protect myself. Well, turns out everybody probably on the other side of that was like, enough protecting yourself. Yeah. Yeah. We're trying to protect ourselves from this entire thing. I saw obviously kickboxing, jujitsu in there, Muay Thai, I think, but also boxing. You're an absolute stallionette. Are you still working on all of these? Are you still getting better, you think? Where do you put yourself right now versus

maybe five, ten years ago? For sure. MMA's a forever growing sport and to stay with the pack, if you want to stay with it, you've got to keep growing, keep evolving. You're an athlete, Brad. You know how it is with the game. You've got to evolve every year. If you stay the same,

then you lose your job. I want to be a member of one of the greats in the game. You've got to evolve every year. If you stay the same, then you lose your job. I want to be a member of one of the greats in the sport. That's just what you've got to do. You've got to keep evolving your sport. If you don't, it's going to go right past you. Obviously, you're going to be remembered forever because of what happened at UFC 300 and everything else

you've done before that. Now, the next conversation is who's next? That feels like the biggest UFC thing of all time. Immediately upon a fight being over, it's like, alright, call somebody out, or get called out, or do what you gotta do here in your promo. I saw Ilya send a tweet

congratulating you, saying he'd be the first person to knock you out if you guys got in a ring together. Have you thought about the future? And... Have you thought about the future, and where are you right now with all of it i mean you know it is what it is you know about that tweet he ain't the first one that said that you know many guys did the only guy who actually i mean it technically didn't count you know that

put me on my butt was gaethje this past saturday but uh according to usc uh it didn't it didn't count as a countdown. So I guess my record is still clean. Clean! But we'll see what happens, you know? We'll see what happens. You know, if it's Ilya at 145, his tone changed a lot. You know, he didn't want to fight.

He didn't want to fight. And now he's coming around finally because I don't know what he was thinking or saying that we don't deserve the title shot. And then, you know, with 55er having a BMF now, got some big fights coming up. We just wait and see, you know? Wait, see, see what Dana White wants. We see what Hunter wants, and we'll figure it out. I don't know if you saw the press conference.

Dana wants Max Holloway back in the octagon. Yeah. He knows the deal. And it feels like you know the deal, too. It feels like being an entertaining fighter is a part of your thing. Is that true, or am I misreading this? Oh, for sure. For deal, too. It feels like being an entertaining fighter is a part of your thing. Is that true, or am I misreading this? For sure.

For sure, brother. Everybody thinks fighting is fighting. Fighting is one thing, but we're entertainers at the end of the day. We've got to stay a paper views. And people have got to want to tune in. You see it all the time. Some guys are really good at fighting. You just get no traction.

We're in the entertainment business too we saw Bo Nickel be upset about the way that he won his fight I think because he hears the chirping about his fights maybe more grappling a little bit more boring and he's working on his strikes and I think a Cormier was like you should not be you just tap the dude out like you should not be upset but it is reality of the situation and do you think did you chew on like rocks as a kid metal glass why do you think your jaw is is so strong legitimately why do you think is this since birth i i just think so it's it's being a polynesian being from the islands being hawaiian samoa and all that helps no cup that definitely helps you know the vibranium they probably implanted in my chin hey the oozes are the best dude i wish i was an ooze first of all i wouldn't sunburn so quick but also i'd be much tougher love your island love the

people from there connor's got a question for you yeah max your point about kind of like chasing greatness and wanting to be remembered as you know one, one of the greatest. Joe Rogan said that that was the greatest knockout in the history of the UFC, and he's been around a long time. When you hear stuff like that, what does it mean to you? And then when you see the reactions of Adesanya and Volkanovski and all those other guys, is that kind of even a bonus to see how impressive it was for them as well to see that knockout? Because it was absurd. Yeah, for sure.

You know, it's just amazing. Amazing to see people react. And then to see my peers react is even more crazy. You know, watching fighters geek out like fans, it's a pretty cool thing to see. And then to hear Joe Rogan talk about it like that. And even Dana White, I think Dana White said that's the craziest holy shit moment he had. He's probably going to see it for a long time.

Hopefully we can top it. Everybody always thinks that there's one moment, but hopefully we can replicate it and do it better. A buzzer beater knockout. One second. How many times have you watched it? Have you watched it a thousand times? You should, by the way. Oh, brother, yeah.

It's everywhere right now. You cannot not watch it. I assume your algorithm, yeah, just feeding yourself. Brother, it is insane, brother. Even after the fight, we was watching the top ten. I was crazy when they gave us top four. I was like, oh, my gosh. They had a soccer guy beating us in the top ten, the sports in the top ten.

I was like, what is going on here? Hey, who cares? Hey, who cares? That does not mean anything. Numbers mean anything. I assume that that's going to hit hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of viewers before the end of this week. And for those that didn't see it are going to watch it all week and go, holy shit. That was in front of Zuck, too.

Did you get a chance to talk to Zuckerberg afterwards? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, before, he came in before the fight, and he gives us some of his meta classes, his new meta classes. He's a very cool guy, bro. Whenever he's out in Hawaii, he always tries to hit me up to train, but then he had that crazy ACL tear. So he's recovering right now.

He said he'd be back in Hawaii hopefully soon, and he can box and stuff, but he's not really doing too much MMA. Not a robot. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, not a robot. Ty, here's a question for you. Max, you mentioned how, you know, Gagey kicks like a horse, and you're kind of feeling it in your leg right now.

And then Pat alluded to, like, you know, you fighting multiple times during the year. What is the recovery process like after a fight like this? Because you obviously, you're throwing so many punches, you know, like you're going deep and all that kind of stuff. Like, do you ever go into the octagon feeling 100%? Or now that you've been doing it this long, it's like you just, you're dealing with shit no matter what. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think so with any sport. any sport you go in there you're not you're never ever 100 but you get you try to be pretty close you know you try to be pretty close to that and then the recovery time you know hopefully uh hopefully a week or two i'll be fine and then we go from there you know a lot of people a lot of people like to like to call me like we were reading

stuff because after after a week or, I'm back on it. Like I said, man, the punches with Gaethje wasn't – he hits hard, don't get me wrong, but in that last 10 seconds, he was missing that the wind was hitting me and it hurt. But his kicks, brother, that guy kicks like a donkey or something. I don't know what kangaroo coming off his tail, but that guy kicks like a donkey or something. I don't know what kangaroo coming off his tail, but that guy kicks hard. I love that. I enjoy the respect you have for him as well, because after watching the fight, it's like, I hope these two warriors know that what they're

doing for us is awesome. And you talk about the strikes and everything. There's a bunch of stats coming out about your historic career right now. Total strikes landed in the history of the UFC, 3,622, obviously about a thousand more in second place and then significant strikes landed a couple thousand more than everybody else you're an absolute monster pal absolute monster are you back in the gym in like a week or two or how does do you have to like like i think we talked to michael chandler and congrats to him finally yeah con Conor McGregor fight on the books that's good for him he talked about how like it's just his lifestyle like if he doesn't train he doesn't feel like he's doing life are you the same way are you always in the gym remain in the gym or what is the how do we continue to go day to day here uh you know we see it happens you know

I I uh my son wasn't able to make it this this fight. We promised him a trip to somewhere, so we got to do that first. But, yeah, man, I'm not like that. If I miss the gym, it's not the end of me. So I'm not something like that. And sometimes I don't want to see some of the people at the gym. My strength and conditioning coach, I mean, I tell him all the time, brother, I do not like seeing your face because every time i see his face is going to be a tough day well that's you know inevitably that's why the fifth round at the end after one second knockout

to still have the energy to do the whole celebration afterwards like i'm puking 30 seconds into round one you go five rounds literally longest fight, knockout fight in the history of the UFC with one second left. And then the juice afterwards is remarkable. So that strength coach might be an asshole, but it seemingly has paid off. Are you sparring? So obviously, when you're in camp,

are you fighting fighting? Like, are we fighting people? Or how do we... Because you don't have to test your chin, I assume, at this point. But what is the sparring like going in to fighting somebody like gaethje brother like so you know before we gave up sparring just like how you said because like we have so many wars and like i've been training so long that i felt like we just needed to be able to move with some of these guys and and even with my training partners you know like if we start going hard and they gotta give me a certain look and they they start you know like even me if i gotta give a certain look for to someone and i start getting beaten up and i know

my look is going to be better than the look that i need to give i'm going to go to that because no one likes to lose you know i mean at the end of the day so i was doing this one where it's like speed so these guys could could give me the look that i needed but for justin gaethje brother brother this is this is like going to the gates of hell you know you know what i mean so we had to bring sparring back bro you know i had to cut the hair we had to go back to the old ways and uh we did we we did sparring man we got after it you know shout out to my shout out to my teammates shout out to my coaches. We did the damn thing this one, bro. It was a tough camp, a hard camp, a hard 10 to 12 weeks. I'm just happy that we got to get our hand raised after it.

Hell yeah. Congrats to the entire camp. Performance of the night, fight of the night. And then obviously, whatever you're getting paid for the fight, and now you're BMF. I mean, let's go. What a Saturday. What a Saturday in Vegas.

D-Butt's got a question for you, Matt. Hey, speaking of that, so 10 to 12 week training camp, unbelievable fight all the way down to the wire. You talked about an unbelievable, Pat just brought up an unbelievable Saturday night in Vegas. What was that post-fight celebration like? You know, obviously you had that energy.

We talked about your Wolverine blood, how quick you heal. But what was that night like after obviously that incredible weekend? Brother, I had so many friends and family come out to the fight. We just went to a hotel bar and we just kicked it for a little bit and then not go to sleep until like 5 o'clock in the morning, brother. It wasn't like a party or whatever.

We went to a club. I just had a bunch of like 20 to 30 good people that just lived with, that grew up with me and was around me for a long time. And, you know, we just kept it intimate, you know. We didn't really like going out and doing too much stuff. But I just, you know, shared that time with the people who dedicated, especially my wife, you know. I got to give my wife.

I gave her hell for freaking 12 weeks at a time. So I'm a lot to deal with, but that's just to be able to hang out with her is that means a lot. How's your surfing? Speaking of your wife, can you, I assume you can surf cause you're from Hawaii. Is that an asshole assumption?

Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty asshole. I'm all right. My wife, my wife is a professional my wife is a professional I like to talk like I'm better You know, you gotta pick the game But I'm terrible I'm terrible My little boy's getting super good at it

And yeah, it's pretty cool Every time I go out there I go to the island a lot Oh, look at you! I see you riding barrels, dude. I see you out there doing your thing. I know some of the lingo because my wife and I, we love Hawaii. That's our place, like we go to.

And whenever we're hanging out, wherever we are, I always look down at the ocean, and you just see a bunch of these little kids hopping on these, and it's like absurd. I'm scared to death to go out there, but I got nothing but respect for those who do. Sharks and shit are out there. Max.

And what? That's their house. You saw what you could do. I'm not doing that to a shark. You're probably punching that thing in the nose. I'm getting out of there. I'm dead. Dead McAfee.

Shark's only great if you touch the private part, bro. Really. You just can't be doing that. Can't be touching the dong of a shark. I just learned that. All right, last question here from Tone. Max, we appreciate you. Yeah, Max, I saw Pereira got his black belt

after getting his win this weekend. Do you know, are you going to be getting your black belt now in Brazilian jiu-jitsu now that you got your win this weekend at 300 you know, are you going to be getting your black belt now in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu now that you got your win this weekend at 300? Is that how that works? Brother, it's funny that you guys talked about this because we were just talking about this after the fight when we saw it happen.

My coach is the most stingiest guy, brother. Giving us belts, giving us stripes and I tease him all the time. I'm like, you're stingy with it. You know how much guys come to our gym and they're like, you're not a brown belt. You're noty with it. You know how much guys come to our gym and they're like, you're not a brown belt. You're not a brown belt. They tell you the brown belt's a blue belt.

You're not a blue belt. What do you do? You're sandbagging. No, our coach is just hardcore about it. But right now I've got to deal with my coach. I want to be the first MMA black belt. There's one of my boys that got me with this coach. His name is Dustin Kimura, former UFC fighter.

And me and him is on the race to get our black belt. He's better than me in jiu-jitsu, but with me getting my card stamp and stuff, I think I'm closer to getting my black belt before him. So black belt, jiu-jitsu, you said MMA black belt. That's just like all fighting forms on the black belt. No, I mean, I wanted to be his first MMA fighter with a black belt. He don't have an MMA fighter with a black belt yet. Got it, got it, got it. Well, I think he's, I mean, I wanted to be his first MMA fighter with a black belt. He don't have an MMA fighter with a black belt yet.

Got it, got it, got it. Well, I think he's, I mean, I don't know how the game works. I think some people are just handing out black belts. I mean, I search the internet in some places. You know, there's some Fugues black belts. Oh, yeah. From what I've been told and what I read. Next time I'm going to show him, I'm going to say,

Pat, what the hell did you get that from? Went down to the dojo, dropped a couple hundred thousand, just like a degree in college. You know, you could kind of pull it off. Max, congratulations. We're lucky to watch you do your thing, brother. That's real. Thank you, brother. Thank you, brother.

Thank you. Hey, when you're back out in the water, let me know, brother. We'll take you surfing. Let's go get in some waves. I'm not going in the water, but I'm watching. Get out there, brother. I look at the water. I don go get in some waves. I'm not going in the water, but I'm watching. Get out there, brother. I look at the water. I don't get in the water.

Brother, you got to get in the water one time. One time. I got this hole in my eardrum. The arc's out there. You can't do it. I just get high and look at the water. Love your islands, though. Love everything about them.

Just like I appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, guys. You guys have a good one. Thank you for having me. Safe travels back to Hawaii. That's the baddest mother in the UFC. Ladies and gentlemen, Max Hollenberg. I mean, what a legend.

Just oos who just beats people's ass. 29 fights in the UFC since 2012. That's so many. He's not undefeated. Obviously, he's taken some split decision losses, unanimous decision losses. He picked up fights within the UFC since 2012. That's so many. He's not undefeated. Obviously, he's taken some split decision losses, unanimous decision losses. He picked up fights within the last few days before the fights because people get injured.

He's fought everybody. But, I mean, this knockout is going to be remembered for the rest of time. Yeah. Damn. of time. Yeah. So big. Jeez. Of a night. So big.

Of a right. So big. Of a fight. So big. Of a moment for UFC. Congratulations. Once again, boys, let's pivot away from UFC 300. Let's go to the NFL, shall we?

Hell yeah. We know we're just a week and some change away from the NFL draft, which we will be live up in Detroit with a whale. Wide. Look out. This could be the biggest draft spectacular yet. Biggest one yet. No doubt. People are going to say, and I have an announcement to

make. We'll be having a countdown to the draftraft Spectacular program. That'll start 30 minutes before the Draft Spectacular starts to break down everything that's about to happen throughout the evening. Okay. Have a couple lines in the water. You know, not Hawaiian waters where there's sharks. Sure.

Don't touch their dongs, we learned. Good to know. Just moments ago from Max, which we're very thankful. Or boobs. So if you ever get up. Yeah. Either or. Yeah, or.'re very thankful for. Or Boo. So if you ever get up. Yeah. Either or. Yeah, or.

Yep, any of it. Right. Anyway, it's got some lines in the water for some acts. Oh, okay. Because these drafts take a very long time. Yeah, they do. We signed up for this five years ago, I think. Four years ago.

Whatever it was. We said, we're going to do the first round of the draft. And the reason why we signed up for it is because we thought the draft was such a mock. Like, just such a mockery. Like, the things that are being said about these guys as if they're going to be Hall of Famers. And the expectations that are put on these guys by the cities in which they get drafted from are as if they're going to be all pros or they're going to be pro-blows. Then you start looking at stats.

Oh, these guys stink. Now, they don't stink at football. If they were to play pickup football with you, they would dominate. Absolutely crush you. They would be the best on the field. They're making it to the NFL. Congratulations. You had a hell of a football career.

Unbelievable. And there's other football leagues you can go play in and do that. But a lot of these guys just aren't going to cut it. That's just how it's going to be. Whether it's too much football IQ that they don't have, whether it's the handling of more have, whether it's the handling of more time, whether it's the handling of more money, whatever it is,

and sometimes whether it's a lack of spots at your particular position because the all-star team from the year ahead of you is there, and the all-star team from the year ahead of that one, and the fodder's fodder, and the fodder's fodder fodder, and you've got people playing until their 40s speaking up. Tom Brady might be coming back. And you got people playing until their 40s. Yeah. Speaking up.

Tom Brady might be coming back. What? Yeah, he was talking to Vic Blenz. Vic Blenz, he's white with a sweet fade and a lot of really cool tattoos. And Tom Brady just sprinkled in a little fodder for everybody to chat about. Wait a second, is the goat getting back into the barn? Run it! Let's say one day there's a situation, right?

Like I said, heading to the playoffs. Offense is great. Patriots. Raiders could be. You never know. God forbid somebody goes down. Would you pick up that phone? I'm not opposed to it. I don't know if they're going to let me if I become an owner of an NFL team, but

I don't know if... I don't know. I'm always going to be in good shape. I'll always be able to throw the ball. So, to come in for a little bit, like MJ coming back, I don't know if they'd let me, but I wouldn't be opposed to it. Wait a second. Wait a second.

Wait a second. So, let's say something unfortunate, which we don't want. And, ladies and gentlemen, this man will be on our show tomorrow. Brock Purdy. Wow. Brock, this man will be on our show tomorrow. Brock Purdy. Wow. Okay. Brock? Yeah, Brock's on the show tomorrow.

Okay. Holy shit. That is breaking. Charles Barkley's on the show tomorrow. What? Damn. Tomorrow, much better show than today. We got CeCe Sabathia on.

Oh, my God. And Jet Paxson won that piece of metal. We just had Max Holloway. Oh, the boy's swinging a hot bat. Hold on. I think so. I was about to make another announcement. You're watching a full tennis thing happening in my head.

Now's not the time. Anyways, let's say something happens to Brock Purdy. That's who I don't love. I don't love that at all. But that team's going to be good. That team's always going to be good. That team's always going to be in the hunt. Something happens to him latedy. That's who I don't love. I don't love that at all. But that team's going to be good. That team's always going to be good. That team's always going to be in the hunt. Something happens to him late in the year.

That's his hometown team. There's pictures of him with San Francisco 49ers gear. You're telling me there's a chance Tom Brady would at least entertain a phone call from them saying, hey, you want to come back if you need it? If you're going to get a good run? And then he said the Raiders maybe. Obviously, the Raiders are a team that he's potentially going to own. But for some reason, the other owners are like, nah, we're not going to vote on that, pal.

Player to player? I don't think so. Push that. I don't care. At what rate? No way. You're going to ruin the valuation of the entire league. We can't be doing that.

No way. But then he said the Patriots as well. And I heard you perk up pretty mightily right there. Now, the way Vic blends sick fade great tats, exactly how I remember the video from four hours ago, whenever I watched it. He says all these names if they were in it still. So that would mean, hey, Tom Brady has hopes that

Coach Mayo is going to be able to have a team in it towards the end of this entire thing. And it feels like he respects and likes everybody that was back there, if you heard the way he talks. And I saw you go six to midnight right there. This would mean that a quarterback that was playing very well to get them in contention would have to get hurt and then he would come back but all of a sudden we're back on old tommy tom brady maybe the patriots quarterback and what are your thoughts on him maybe playing for another

team outside of new england yet again here i mean him playing for another team i think is more realistic i was more so thinking like brady coming in for the Patriots week 18 to win the week 18 game to push the Patriots to 4 and 13 again but again this is a situation where it would be nice the idea of Tom coming back to see him in a Patriots uniform again and get that moment of like okay this is actually the last time I'll see him in a Pats uniform because a lot of New England fans didn't get that but I mean the idea of him coming back you can never rule that out I mean this wouldn't be the first time the Niners called him. They called him, what, last offseason

going into it? The idea that they wouldn't call him going into a playoff run, they would definitely do that. Then you even just think even broader, just players that he hadn't played with. Imagine if the Dolphins, which he was connected to, where they have Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddell

and something happens with Tua, and he goes down, and they need to do something like that. And even a team like the Cowboys, where Dak Prescott goes through something, and it's Jerry Jones, and maybe Tom thinks to himself, hey, if I go play for Jerry, maybe Jerry will spread the word and let everyone know, hey, Tom's a good man. He can be an owner in this league, because that's clearly what he's still looking for. But no, he said it in there, and I think it goes for a lot of quarterbacks.

Tom is going to be able to throw the football very well until he's 50. And I mean very well as in probably in NFL, hopefully. I mean, who knows? It would be fun to play this kid. We know another human that has told us I'll always be able to. Yeah, exactly. Always. What are we even talking about?

I assume most of those guys think that. And then you see Steve Young whenever he was on Monday Night Countdown. He was on that. He was still. Still Young, whenever he was on Monday Night Countdown, he was on that. He was still. Still spinning. Then he was doing full jogging. We're talking high heels up there. He looked good.

He was touching cheeks. Running a VC. I mean, he was. Yeah, I guess some of those guys. He's not as old as these other guys, but Darren Orlowski, the pro bowl. I'm still slinging around. Good point. RG3.

Who's that? Carr's older brother. David. David. He did that target practice thing. Oh, yeah. With, I forget who it was, and it was like, boom. Dominated.

Boom, boom, boom. And then the miles per hour in which he was throwing was faster. Everybody was like, you guys get better after you? Why isn't this guy still playing? How does this whole thing work? It might be modern science, which Tom Brady is TB12. It's not modern science. It's old science.

It's old science of all time and pliability. Tom Brady might be coming back. He might not be the only one. Ladies and gentlemen, Andrew Luck threw a football this weekend with money on the line at the Chuck Strong Gala, where Chuck Pagano obviously plays host to a fundraiser here in Indianapolis every year. Jim Irsay said, if you two

can knock out every picture of Chuck Pagano in one minute, I'll donate a million dollars. Andrew Luck said with 10 seconds left, get the hell out of the way, Chuck. I ain't got time. Chuck hits a high one. Andrew hits the corner. Oh, misses. Only got seven seconds oh no no

boom and boom gamer gamer screw obviously as time expired it was great to see andrew luck do that that was what andrew did by the way they called jim harbaugh the comeback kid and everything like that and obviously frank reich is known for a couple of the biggest comebacks in history if you look at andrew luck's career it did not matter how much we were down. It was not a matter of if we were coming back. It was just a when we were coming back. He might have the greatest second half stats out of any quarterback

I've ever seen. And it starts out as like, oh, the other team must have just got comfortable or something like that. And then it doesn't matter because him and T.Y. are just about to go bananas on you. It's that gamer mentality. That's the thing that I think, you know, you don't hear about a lot with Andrew because he was the perfect prospect, this guy. He's tall, he's fast, he's incredibly smart, mechanical engineer.

I think he could go build a bridge right now if he had to. Like actually could piece together a building or a bridge if he had to. Nobody ever talks about his competitive drive. Because he retired young, nobody thinks his competitive drive is high. But you saw it there whenever he raised a million bucks for the city of Indianapolis and the people here,

which we're very thankful for. But in games, too. It was like, put the team on my back, though, and I'm going to go for it. It was great to see him again. Yeah, even early, early in his career, I remember that Detroit game, the walk-off touchdown,

the big, huge comeback against the Chiefs in the second half of the playoffs. Luck's always dialed in when it's time to be clutch. Always. We appreciate him. Thanks for coming back to town. Bores! Oh, wonderful. We're incredibly lucky to talk about him every single day.

And who would we be if we had this platform and we didn't say this? Do your taxes. That's right. Get them done. Do your taxes. Today's the day. Who would we be if we had this platform and we didn't say this? Do your taxes. That's right. Get them done. Today's the day. Today's the tax day. You don't want to mess with them. I've had a lot of friends potentially trying to dabble. Guys, whenever I played in the league, they were like,

I'm going to write off my shoes because I'm a professional football player. I'm going to write off my television because I watch film professional football player. I'm going to write off my television because I watch film on this at times. Oh, I got a movie theater. No, that was much different. That was an insurance claim. I'm going to write off

my movie theater and my projector and my house. I need a yard. So I'm going to write that off too because I train out there. And then the only thought was like, is that worth it? You're getting like four bucks back on those shoes, maybe like 10 bucks back to just kind of alert the IRS

that like you're maybe trying to take advantage of the system. Does that feel like a good idea? Then I immediately thought to myself, I shouldn't feel that way about a government agency. I shouldn't think that we shouldn't want to ripple any, ruffle any feathers within a government agency. And then I thought immediately back,

yeah, you should think like that with the IRS because they'll get you. They will absolutely get you. And I enjoy paying the taxes, you know, lucky to do it. Love giving my money back if it's going to help somebody sweet. Now, where it goes,

we all have wonders, you know, like we get a little transparency on where his dollar's going because I want to let you know The potholes outside my house Are getting bigger Yeah Okay I don't know how that happens

Take more money Potholes getting worse Can't drive to work Without maybe Blowing out a tire That's why I got a Hummer It's electric So maybe help out there too

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At Boss Conner And at Ty Schmidt One after the hammer down cowboys 10 digits is here and nine-year nfl vetterman looks incredibly cool it always takes a shot about how cold it is in his own room yeah it does i appreciate it i like that but they're hot i went to a letterman show one time and uh he kept his studio real cold and I was so thankful I was like I sat in there had to wait in line you know got a chance one work and it might have been 55 degrees I was like this is the greatest place so it is nice

we have the air conditioning fixed in here because the weather has turned here in the Midwest I hope it has happened for you as well 50 degrees tonight Montreal so that's good okay stay Indiana, fly right back two months ago up to Montreal, but can't wait to get up there. Going to have a nice jacket on maybe. Maybe enjoy the sights. Speaking of enjoying sights, this guy is a sight to see. His face is something you don't think is possible.

His jawline too damn defined. Who is that guy? Oh, he's the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. He's a Super Bowl champion, a college football national champion. And this weekend, his alumni, his school that he's an alumni of, had their spring game on national television. It sucked, but it was on national television, and the entire stadium was sold out.

Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. That game was cropped. That was worse than a Pro Bowl. It was worse than a Pro Bowl. It was worse than a Pro Bowl. Yeah, it's a spring game. What do you expect? I mean, Kirk, I'm sure Kirk could have told you that. Remember we asked him about the spring game. What can you learn? He's like, nothing. You can't figure anything out really from the spring

game. It's a good thing for some of the players that haven't played in a stadium with 80,000 people to kind of get their feet wet again. Okay, so I think that's what Ryan Day, I watched Joel Klott was on the sideline, and I watched the interview he and Ryan Day did before the game started. And Ryan talked about, you know, you're not going to see a lot of the older guys,

but younger guys, it's good to get them in front of our fans, you know, for the first time. And, you know, it's not – they're going against the Masters and everything else going on. And I appreciate Fox putting it on air. You know, college football in the middle of April was beautiful. Loved watching. I think Tennessee had theirs on the SEC network. There was a lot of spring games happening.

But as I was watching it, I was like, this is crop. I didn't know it was going to be such crop. Did you know it was such crop? It's Pro Bowl, but with people we don't know. So it was like, hey, this freshman scored a touchdown, which was cool. But also, I think seven people

could have tackled him if they were really going for it. It was tough, but it was fun. So I'm kind of torn. Do you remember when you were in college, like D, about you as well? Were your spring games, were they live? I know our quarterbacks were never live, but I believe we tackled everybody else when I played. Yeah, we were live.

And the vets played too. The upperclassmen played for the most – you know, quick, not the whole time, but we played for sure and definitely full, definitely tackled. Dude, I don't remember. The only thing I remember from for the most. You know, quick, not the whole time, but we played for sure. And definitely full. Definitely tackled. Dude, I don't remember. The only thing I remember from the spring game is I was out there on the field by myself punting to the returner by himself. And that's where the offense started with the ball. And I'm like, this is the most Mickey Mouse thing of all time.

And I think I kicked for both teams maybe at one point. But everybody played. That was a fun part, though, picking the teams. Yes, drafting. What was it? Scarlett and Rip for you guys? Great. Scarlett and Rip. Picking that team, that draft, that was probably the teams. Yes, drafting. What was it, Scarlett and Rip for you guys? Greg. Scarlett and Rip.

Picking that team, that draft, that was probably the best part about the spring. I feel like spring practice is a massive deal, though, personally. I think it's big in the NFL as well because I think this is a good camaraderie building. I think it's when you meet people. Now, is everybody going to be on the team? No. But at least you get a chance to kind of feel people out, see how they are, how they're going to be. How about Aaron Rodgers back on campus for a New York Jets?

There you go. I love it. He came bopping in there day one of voluntary OTAs with his Hooga hat on. Nice. Fresh off an IA trip with Jordan Poyer, Vaughn Miller, and the rest of the team. Jordan Poyer's mom also on the trip as well. This is big.

This is awesome. I'm happy to see he's back over there doing the voluntary stuff. But across the NFL, I think these are big moments, AJ. Yeah, I mean, imagine, I guess, the message it might send. Aaron's there day one. I'm sure he wants to let everybody know, hey, this is my kill. Who knows what their workouts

look like, but it seems like he should be full go at the moment, right? It appears as if he's full go. You would know better than us. That sounds like breaking news out of AJ Hawk's mouth right there. Just let that slide above the greatest jawline in the history. If he was going to play in January, wouldn't he be okay for OTAs April 15th? Well, we didn't know what a percentage he was in January.

Remember, because the math he was doing, if we were still in it, what would the number have to be for me to play? Since we're not in it, it would have to be Hundo. So he had an equation happening which you know he only he could he was on chalkboard at harvard exactly that's right he's on chalkboard harvard and if we would have seen him come back that would have been awesome you know that would have been incredible the thing i did see from him that is definitely in 100 a mustache is strong oh yeah i mean holy shit that's a good mustache going into voluntary otas looks like he's in great shape obviously

let's keep a massive amount of water on us at all times. Let people know that we're trying to be pliable and hydrated. We are better humans than you are. Shout out to the Hooga House getting some more love, but that mustache steals the show. Now, he's not the only one who has a great mustache today. Firefighters conventions in town here in Indianapolis. Look at Connor's face, AJ, just trying to fit in.

Maybe a little stolen valor this weekend. This is a conversation before the show. I thought about shaving it off just because of the Firefighter Convention because no stolen valor. I refuse to have that. I feel like it's more so a tribute. The Jets is probably the most scared you're going to be of the Jets all year if Rodgers is

rolling in with a mustache on. This is as good as it's going to be. We all know how this song and dance goes. The New York football Jets. Let's enjoy the draft. They're going to get someone real good. Yeah, it's a new year. What do you mean? It's a new year. What about Greeny? They're going to get someone

real good in the draft. Mike Greenberg! And then Greenberg, who said some ridiculous stuff today again about the play-in tournament again for the second straight year again. He'll get all booed. When you're in the batter's box, you've got to say something. I agree. He's in there every morning. He's catching Regis Philbin

for the Guinness World Record amount of time on television. Probably could, yeah. Whatever, you're right. You've got to take those hacks even though you're still missing on the same pitches. But when Greeny's bopping, when it gets to July, August, and he really starts jerking his gurgling when the Jets' clips are coming out,

Rodgers throwing touchdowns to Brock Bowers, Mike Williams. Oh, he's jacking his goal. By the time that comes around, could you imagine what Rodgers' stash is going to look like then? Oh, my God, it's going to be so full. It might be oozing Aya as he speaks and talks and walks. I mean, who knows what's going to happen for the Jets. You're talking about Ayahuasca. Yeah, of course. Of course. Mother Aya. And then as the season goes on, we know how it

goes. Something so bad and terrible is going to happen. And I'm laughing, but I don't want it to happen. I already bet on the Jets. You don't want to be the bearer of the news is what you're saying. No. Somebody has to. No, no. I bet on the Jets to win the division. I think it's the Jets' year.

I think that this is the year they go to the Super Bowl and they play another team like the Jets maybe that can't figure it out and then finally figure it out. Ty, what's this all about? I don't know. That's because the Patriots just beat the Jets for 20-some years. Guys saying that we know by midseason something terrible

is going to happen and they're going to be dead. What mana is that? But he also bet on it. So he wants them to do it. Fence rider! One foot in, one foot out. I'm a realist, but I also know that if the Jets play the way the Jets can play, they're

going to win the Super Bowl. It's one of those things that you've got to balance, but right now, they're winning the division. In spite of themselves, they could win it. They could still go and do it. But the Jets is the Jets still. That's what you're saying this time. I usually just go and look back at the history of these Jets teams.

It's a good hedge, though. Great. It feels right. It feels like with the, though. Great. I mean, it feels right. It feels like with the guys they got, the guys they kept, like they should, on paper at least, definitely win the division. Yeah, and they got new uniforms today. So they're trying to change their motto. Now, do the uniforms look different at all? No.

They're the exact same. Oh, look how cool that life is. Yeah, sweet. Look how cool that is. Cool rendering. Let's see. They got new colors, it looks like. AJ, did you edit this video? I did not, but someone did Let's see. They got new colors. AJ, did you edit this video?

I did not, but someone did a good job. That guy looks cool. Yeah. Whoa. Whoa. Is that a racetrack? Are these real? Is that Aaron? Are they much different?

Yeah. I don't think he got judge. Unrecognizable. Do you have pads for this? Is that Garrett? Here we go. Oh, there he is. Is that a wax figure?

Holy shit. That might be AI. That's is. Is that a wax figure? Holy shit. That might be AI. That's him. Matt of Tussauds or whatever. Damn, those are new. It's like we're playing the Steelers now. So it's the sleeves? It's the stripes.

Is it stripes? Didn't the Colts do this and they added one stripe or something like that? Don't bring us into this, okay? This is their moment. So the Jets did have the jet wings on the center of their... Do you remember those? In the green ones, it was white. In the white ones, it was green.

The white ones look sweet. The ones down at the bottom, daughter. But Romo is going to have a hard time when Jets run out. Like, holy shit, Jim. What team is this? Jim Nance, great weekend. Great weekend. Great weekend, Jim Nance.

Did he say ticklish little bitch? I don't think he said that. Was that AI? AI is making tracks for people right now. Allegedly. Hey, the rap game is in water right now. Yes, it is. The rap game was live this weekend.

You watch the Masters of Golf. You see UFC 300. And you open your phone and there's a four-minute song from Champagne Poppy firing shots at the entire rap world pretty much. And then all of a sudden you got Ricky Ross coming out of his estate down there in Atlanta. From Champagne Poppy. Firing shots at the entire rap world, pretty much. And then all of a sudden, you got Ricky Ross coming out of his estate down there in Atlanta. Kendrick Lamar allegedly answered today, but maybe it was AI. Yeah, it turns out.

Which is not a bad thing if you're a musician. You put something out that's maybe not good. That was AI. That wasn't me. What do you want me to do? That wasn't me. It's like the old Twitter hack situation. Oh, I got hacked, guys. Sorry.

I never said that. I never said that. I never said that. Computer can't rap as good as me. Who would have guessed? Yeah. I'm K-Dot. I got hacked, guys. Sorry. I never said that. I never said that. I never said that. A computer can't rap as good as me. Who would have guessed? Yeah. I'm K-Dot. I'm on top of that.

Drake, we need a full album. Please. We need a full album. I'm sorry to all the people that have to catch the shots out of this thing. Yeah. Because there was shots and bars that people were breaking down now going back. It was an entire thing. We need an entire album of that.

Drake, you saw it, Arenas. You don't need any help. Billionaire, probably, at this point, if I had to guess. But just for the good of getting up and going. An entire album of that would be awesome. Enough of the love-making albums, okay? Amen. He's not singing us right now.

He's not singing us. He's not making songs for us. Well, what about us? Well, that's what we're saying. We need an album. We're killing people. We need people to keep pissing him off. Yep. And just adding a chip so that he can say, like, oh, yeah, you're expecting, you know, the love-making album.

Okay, well, how about this? Let me just go ahead and take this. Yeah. Pan out real quick. Murder. Exactly. The entire time. Anyways, joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is not from the rap game.

What? Sure. Maybe. Could be a ghostwriter. don't know in a way he is well that's all part of this whole thing because ghostwriter uh conversations are chatted being chatted about by rick ross saw that and if you do remember um rick ross one of his bars is fat boys uh the ghostwriter behind some of your favorite flows or something like that in one of his songs. So when he disappeared, one of the freeway Rick Ross, I believe, was in B. I'm a massive Rick Ross fan. Massive Drake fan. So it's like, Hustlin' came out in high school,

and it was like, you're damn right, Rick. That is what we're doing. Great beard, great sound. The huh sound, which is fun to make. Doing that as much as you run around telling people to suck it you know as if wwe so like you know i've kept he disappeared for a while because there was some i think it was i think it was hot in the streets little beef i think it was hot in the streets so i think he just wrote a bunch of people's music and then he just got super mega rich yep and then now he's back if rick's back and drake's back

thank god for all this. That is all I have to say about that entire thing. This guy, I don't know if he's going to throw himself into the diss track battle. Maybe. He won a piece of metal this weekend. This weekend he won the

2023 AP Sports Editors Contest in a International Beat Writing Category, which encompassed all divisions. So there was a category. There was other categories. This category encompasses all categories. This guy won them all.

Ladies and gentlemen, Jet Pass. Yeah, Jet! Woo! How you doing, Jet? I got a little flow like i i appreciate that i i could i mean if you want me to please like i got i got wu-tang flow is that okay well you're gonna steal their bars are you making your own right now oh you want me to freestyle right now well that would be the whole thing if you were adding into the dish you would me to freestyle right now? Well, that would be the whole thing. If you were adding into the dish, you would have to. You can't just jack a Wu-Tang album and then say,

and then drop it in as a dish truck. Anyways, we know you love, and you have a Wu-Tang album, I think, behind you. Yeah, it's back there somewhere. Yeah, it had for numerous years, which we appreciate. But, hey, this award, what is this? This is a real deal, it sounds like. Legit. we appreciate but hey this award what is this this is a real deal it sounds like legit it's uh it's very nice to be uh to be seen by your peers is the best at anything and uh i work with a lot

of good people and uh it's it's very nice when uh when people think your work is good i did something that you guys appreciate right yeah where'd you started look at where you are now people appreciate the work. It's nice being here with people who do good work, too. Well, we appreciate you appreciating that. But with that being said, we're not winning any awards or titles ever. So the fact that you did, congrats. We're proud of you, Jet.

Go, Jet. I appreciate that, boys. It's the most sincere I've ever heard Ty and Connor be. So thank you, guys. It's not true. Ty loves your coverage of baseball. He tried to jack into it actually one night. Yeah, it was a bad idea. He's not winning an award though. You are. Bingo. Right? Well said.

That's what we've been talking about. Now, you might win an award for your coverage of something that is unraveling in front of our eyes. Just so everybody is on the same page here. Just so everybody's on the same page here Just so everybody is on the same page here Because I hear a lot of chatter On the internet

Until I am told otherwise By like the federal investigators You don't think the feds could get it wrong The feds would love to expose A gambling situation happening In the MLB by their biggest star Especially as sports gambling is growing At the rate in which it's growing

I saw a lot of people on the internet, the feds are covering this up for the MLB. You think that's how that goes? That is not normally how that goes. Just as a kind of, I don't want to say there's egos and pride and legacies and things like that, but that is real with humans that we're talking about.

So as we say all that, we've got to remember this guy right here is a piece of shit. Okay? This needs to be known. From everything that we know right now, this is one of the biggest piece of shits in the history of sports. This guy took advantage of the fact that he was the ears and the mouth of the biggest baseball star on earth to the tune of $16 million with another 24 million owed this guy sucks at gambling he sucks as a translator he sucks as a person and we need to remember that forever this is a piece of shit who robbed shohei otani of millions and millions of dollars now allegedly okay yeah i was about to say did i get that wrong uh is there any

because didn't he admit this i've i already admitted this there's a guilty plea taking place what do we know about this entire scene right now to this point there is no guilty plea so all of this that you just laid out pat is in a complaint from the federal government and look i've read through a lot of criminal complaints before. The 37 pages that are outlined here laying the case that Ipe Mitsuhara did steal 16 plus million dollars from Shohei Ohtani. It's one of the tightest, most concise, detailed, damning complaints that I've read. Now, there is a possibility that there's a giant conspiracy going on that involves otani mitsuhara the los angeles dodgers the los angeles angels the federal

government accountants agents tax people like investment people there's also the possibility that the dude just stole 16 million dollars from his friend. And that seems to be, based on all of the evidence laid out in the complaint, the far more plausible possibility. And, you know, I'm glad you brought up the point about what the federal government would prefer. You think there's not an agent out there who wants to make his career on the Shohei Ohtani case? Like, that's the thing you have to keep in mind here. out there who wants to make his career on the Shohei Otani case. Like, that's the thing you have to, like, keep in mind here. Especially with sports gambling, with where sports gambling is going right now. Oh, yeah.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Like, every single detective out there would prefer to get the high-profile pelt on his wall rather than the guy, you know, who looks like someone from no country for old men like he's got the haircut true you know like it's it's it's a vibe there's a lot of documentaries about such instances now there's also very good uh agencies and agents and every government we obviously know that but there are certainly people who have utilized their positions of power to try to create a name and a legacy for

themselves that, you know, they're heroes, which all of them technically are. Some of them abuse their power in a fashion that is, you know, absurd. This would be one that I think both crooked agents, if they still exist, they do. We'll assume they don't, but crooked agent. And also straight agents would want, because what sports gambling is becoming and this is a depiction of it almost like there's some people that just get addicted to this thing and there's no way out and now granted he is a piece of shit of a human for taking advantage of his friend and the access that he had and you know the trust that was bestowed upon him by shohei otani and i guess a lot of people could also say, it's easy to gamble when you just have $100 million

of somebody else's money to gamble with. You can make it back. He gambled so much. So many bets. That was the part of the complaint. Well, baseball is so boring. Yeah, baseball.

He's just sitting there in a dugout. He's like, geez, Luis, is there anything else going on in the world oh i mean it was it was 19 000 plus wagers at an average of 12 000 a wager which is like which is wild somebody else's money yeah good losses of 183 million dollars and i mean he could turn around to you pat saying that he's such a terrible gambler and say, Pat, I want $140 million worth of bets. How bad can I be? Yeah, you're net negative $40 million. That's how bad you are.

You are very bad. And obviously, we've heard about other gambling addictions that have led to things. And there's people currently battling through gambling addictions. And I think that's why regulated books are a big deal if we're going to have this whole thing. Because this was with a legal book, offshore book. And there's even text messages to Ipe about this one bookie or at least one of his people. I and Shohei Ohtani walking his dog and being like, I see him right now. You owe me $24 million or whatever.

It's like that's the old sports gambling world. The seedy underworld, the break your finger. Hey, you don't do this. I'll show up and kill you. Like that type of stuff is what it used to be. Now with, you know, legalization of sports books, I'm not saying it's the end all be all for these types of addictions and issues. And obviously that's going to continue. And we hope that it stops and we pray that it stops to all the gods in the Lords up there, but it's like regulated so they can save and protect people. Like, Hey, you've reached your max limit. You've lost too much money. You were on a losing streak. They will cut you off from your own account. I don't know if you'd

be able to lose 16 million in legal sports books. You certainly can with an offshore account being run by an illegal bookie, though. And I hope this all all gets settled but we need to remember that if they preyed on shohei if they if this is true if a is a piece of shit and everybody that's attacking shohei in this entire thing it's like this dude just got robbed by his best friend like probably a guy he viewed as his brother at some point see here here's the thing i think this is an important point he's not the first athlete ever to go out and lose a ton of money when somebody close to him took advantage of him right this is a story that has existed as long as professional athletes have gotten paid really well um you know when you're an athlete so much of your bandwidth so much of everything that's going on up here is dedicated and devoted

to your craft. You need to put 100% of your resources in just to survive in a professional sports league, let alone become one of the best players that we've ever seen, as is the case with Shohei Otani. And when you combine that sort of, I'm not even going to call it dedication, but that sort of single-mindedness toward your craft, along with the fact that you make so much money both on and off the field, that you are rich beyond compare, it's very easy for something like this to slip by. And that's what people ask me, how can you lose $16 million? and and that's what you know people ask me how can you lose 16 million dollars well at what point does that number become alarming to say how can you lose this is it five million is it 10 million

is it it's all the same when you have that much money and you're not a super materialistic person who's going looking to spend it so my family's paycheck to paycheck obviously growing up and the amount of money that i was paid to kick a ball is so stupid absolutely so so stupid now they're making money off you know what the team is doing for sure and i'm riding the coattails but like the way somebody who you know doesn't have money versus whenever you have the way you view things a little bit different you know it used to be on our intro was like so you're supposed to I'm supposed to say no to something I could definitely afford that I want, you know, I'm supposed to do that I had that issue then there's other guys that are like I don't want to see my money and they view it as like

I'm this I'm a professional with this. I'm gonna hire a professional at this they take care of it I'll meet back at ten years from now. I'm not using any of my money at all And it's like, for that person, so there has to be another person involved. Like his financial people have to be involved too because Ipe would be talking to them, right? Wouldn't that be who Ipe's talking to? Yeah, and that's the big flaw in this situation

and where everything fell apart was that there was trust in Ipe Mitsuhara. They trusted him because Shohei essentially said, you need to trust this guy. He is my voice to the world. And so he's going to be my voice to you as well. There was no restrictor plate in place, though. There was no failsafe if something's wrong with Ipe, which, you know,, there quite clearly was. And, you know, when when you have that one person who everything is going through, that's where the problems can start. They're just needed, there needed to be a backup here, there needs to be someone,

whether it's at his agency, or otherwise, who was able to double check because when you're dealing with sums of nine figures and not like low nine figures either, by the end of his contract, Shohei Otani is going to be a billionaire, right? When you're dealing with money of that magnitude, it can't just be a translator who you met over in Japan. There needs to be something there to protect the guy.

Didn't he say he went to a school, too, and that wasn't true? It's like, Ipe's a hustler, dude. Prayed on Shohei. Got in so deep that it all blew up in his face. Now, there could be a recovery story. Not a $16 million, obviously. But Ipe, when you pay the piper,

which allegedly is definitely going to be taking place, we hope you come back on the other side and tell your story about, you know, gambling addiction, taking advantage of friends and all that type of stuff. There is good that could potentially come from this, but until we find out anything different, Ipe Mitsuha is a piece of shit.

Alright, I'm tired of people talking about Shohei. I have friends around the NFL that have been financial people have taken advantage of. They lost a lot of money. Think about how they feel. Shohei feels like an idiot oh yeah you know I mean like it feels like an idiot deep down how'd I let this happen right in front of my eyes everything question that people are asking about how do you

not notice 16 show Hayes like how do I not and now he spoke English a little bit especially how private he is and how probably keeps everything off the yeah what everything is happening everywhere so show hey hey we're behind you can't understand what we're saying but good luck new interpreter he understands he understands well already he understands english that quickly oh no he no he has understood like this whole he's not fluent thing that's been out there hold on he may not be fluent like we are, but I've had a conversation with him in English before. Did you say 10 million, 16 million? Did you say any of those words?

How fluent are we talking? I mean, he's perfectly capable of holding a conversation in English, both according to my experience as well as the teammates who have talked with him. Uh-oh. Okay. Okay-oh. Okay. Okay, Jet, thanks for that information. No, I don't, because now the question is, well,

why are you not here? Rip Day was talking to him, right? No, no, but here's the thing. On his phone playing Brick Breaker while they're on there. He's watching film. Well, did your teammates that got taken advantage of, did they take advantage of you? They did, but, yeah, you're right. Good point.

Good point. Good counterpoint. Thank you, Tony. Thank you, Tony. You're 100% right. Go ahead, AJ. Yeah, yeah. Well, we figured it out over here. We don't want awards for journalism. We got to figure it out in real time. Go ahead, AJ. No, let me say this, though,

because this is from the criminal complaint. There were thousands and thousands of pages of text between Shohei Otani and Ipe Metsuhara. And in them, there was not one mention, either straightforward or using slang, that tied it at all to knowledge of gambling going on. Now, I think it's reasonable to say if you spend as much time around this guy as you do, could he really hide this for as long as he allegedly did? Like, you know, the question of what Otani knew when he knew it is an understandable one. But human beings are really good at hiding things.

And I don't think we should look past the ability for people who are in clearly a terrible situation to try and hide it from those about whom they are supposed to care. Yeah, preying on. Go ahead, AJ. Jet, so how did they go about finding Shohei, the new interpreter? And I would imagine this new interpreter is not going to have as much power and access as Ipe, because I know, didn't the manager even come out and say they felt kind of isolated? Shohei was isolated because of Ipe and what they were doing? Yeah, the new interpreter is named Will Ireton. He's worked for the Dodgers for a while now,

and he did some interpreting in the past and then joined the organization in a baseball operations role. And there's a lot of trust right there between the organization and the interpreter. But between the player and the interpreter, that takes time to build. And that's why Ippei Mitsuhara was around, I think, for as long as he was, because he had Shohei Ohtani's implicit trust, like everything. I mean, if you think about it, his life, Otani's life, the way that it was presented to the American public was strictly dependent on Ippimitsu Hara. Oh, how many wrong things has he said in those postgame interviews from this?

Like, I don't even want to get into little things. This guy, there's no soup here tonight, Shohei. There is. How many things did he lie about, This son of a bitch. Allegedly. There's also the new story with the interpreter, the new interpreter about how... Oh! Double. It's a double. Get two.

Get two. Get two. Get two. Get two. That is embarrassing. Way to push back. Way to push back. Good work. Good slot.

Way to push him. Way to push him. I'm embarrassing. I'm a cowboy boots. I'm a snake skin. I slid into second base. I'm a shoeser. I don't know.

Could have been a triple. Cowboy boots, Jet. Great base running. Get held up at second base. Not trying to make first out of the inning at third base. I was trying to go to third, but I had to stop there. Did you just say that was great base running. Get held up at second base. Not trying to make first out of the inning at third base. Did you just say that was great base running? Yeah.

It was just double. You're not here, Jet. You can't see. I have eyes. I can see. Base running sucked. Oh, Jet, they're going to take your award. You keep saying dumb shit like that. I'm going to let you know that. But didn't something, last thing about Shohei here.

Wasn't there something about like a home run ball? Yes. And then the interpreter lied. The new interpreter, yeah. Well, we don't know. Allegedly lied. And then the team had to say something. Then Shohei had to do something.

Now they're part of the team. The people had the ball. What happened? Wasn't the interpreter, don't we have a situation already happened? I don't know a whole lot about that. What was reported was that there was a home run ball and that they tried to separate a husband and wife and leverage them and try and get the best deal that they possibly could.

The big issue is that you can't get balls authenticated that are caught in the stands unless they have a special marking on them. And the only balls that get special markings are ones that are around milestones. And Major League Baseball should have a more expanded program so that you can get it authenticated and then go home with it so you don't feel pressured or cajoled into giving it up but you know in the situation with aaron judge um you know when when his uh record-setting home run in the american league was caught down in texas they got the ball authenticated and the dude just left the ballpark and put it up for auction later on. So, listen, it is easy to say no.

You don't have to say yes if you're a fan. Yeah, but Mike Evans' Tom Brady situation, remember that? Oh, yeah. Then they auctioned that ball, and then he kept playing. Well, not only that, but the offer in which it was, was like, you pair of gloves, two high fives, big water bottle spray. Sandwich, maybe. How about it? And they gave it up, and was, was like, you pair of gloves, two high fives, big water bottle to break. Sandwich, maybe.

How about it? And they gave it up, and the internet was like, you idiot. You absolute doofus. What a bad business decision. Baseball is wild because it has to go into the crowd. Yeah, no matter what. Half the records has to go in the crowd unless you've got somebody playing it in there.

Like, for instance, Big Gump's was on, what were you on? The Big Green Mountain. Whoa, easy. What the hell was that? What the hell was that? It's a tall task. You know what's funny? They should rename it to the Agro Crack because it basically is. That's what I'm saying.

And get on top of it. It's not easy unless you just buy a ticket like Gumpy did for back-to-back games. They lost both games, right, Gump? Should we catch a baseball or what? No, we got shit, K. Socks stink. We're losing right now on marathon day. What?

Oh, no. No. Can't have that. It's not pretty, boys. No. Gump, you might be the reason. I'm surprised that Gumpy shows up and bad things happen. Oh, jeez.

What's this guy's deal? Jay, he's almost an American now. He's still armed. Takes a test next week. Does he? Yeah, I'm sure he's going to pass it. Oh's still armed. Takes a test next week. Does he? I'm sure he's going to pass it. Oh, come on. Oh, gee.

What are you talking about? Get this guy off. This guy's going to an award. We can't kick him off. That is a huge award. Ty's got a question for you, Jet. Jet, we talked to the mayor, Sean Casey, last week, and we were talking about all the issues with these top-of-the-line aces

who are having elbow problems. And he basically said like, Hey, he doesn't think it has anything to do with the pitch clock, which a lot of people have speculated. And it's more so that guys are chasing spin right now and all that kind of stuff. But I can't remember if it was ESPN or MLB network or someone put out a

graphic of all the aces who are hurt right now, or who are going to miss an extended period of time. And then obviously Spencer Strider a couple days ago, he's out for the season. How concerned is MLB about this? And is there anything they can really do to try to change this? Do you think it is a pitch clock issue or what's going on with that? No, it's not a pitch clock issue. Now, the pitch clock may be part of it i'm not going to

discount how do you win awards in journalism with what you just said maybe that's why maybe that's why why don't you leave the journalism to journalists and let the journalists answer the question pitch clock has nothing to do with this now there's a chance pitch clock has a little bit to do with this no no no no no no i said it's not the pitch clock specifically it might be part of a larger brew of things i was trying to have this thing we call nuance pat i know that's lost on you on occasion my ears work jeff you should check the tape maybe just saying you should perhaps it was an inelegant answer, Pat. Let me start over again.

Pitch clock might have something to do with it. Don't talk down to me like I'm a dummy. No, no, I'm joking. But the pitch clock, seemingly, it has changed. And now all these injuries are taking place. So people are just piecing them together, Jed, I think. Yeah, I think that, though, is more correlation than causation. Like when we look at what's actually the likelier culprits to this injury uh epidemic in baseball it's a few things number one

is velocity um guys who throw hard get hurt like that's just that's you look at uh that leaderboard of fastball velocity that ty was referring to and he's right right. Like if you throw hard, you are in much greater peril of getting injured because the force that is going through your body and ultimately to the ulnar collateral ligaments in your elbow right there, it's that much greater. And when you have more force, it's really difficult to stop injuries from happening. There's also, though, and this is something that is near and dear to me because I watch it and I hate it. The way that youth baseball is played and the way that coaches and parents do not get in the way when kids' arms are being abused, it's embarrassing. It's a real problem for the sport. And it's something that Major League Baseball, there needs to be a top-down effort by MLB and by the pitchers and by the Players Association, by everyone involved, to suggest to youth players that they are modeling the wrong behavior here by chasing velocity all the time.

You do not need to throw hard at a young age to be a really good baseball player when you get older. You do not need to go out there in 8U and 9U and 10U tournaments and throw 75, 80, 90 pitches. You don't need to do that. But because at that young age, so many teams are trying to chase wins and trophies that in the grand scheme of things are entirely inconsequential. You have this population of players that's coming into the minor league system and ultimately to the big leagues already broken. And so this isn't something that's just happening, guys, at the big league level. This is something that's starting when they're children. And it's something that's been going on for a couple of decades right now and absolutely needs to change.

When did we know that this was taking place? Like a few years ago, a couple years ago? Like when did I wrote I wrote a book on it eight years ago. I started reporting the book on it 12 years ago. So if you are pretty passionate there, that makes sense. That was a very good speech. He's right. I mean, like, seriously, go read it. I'm sorry to do the shameless passionate there. That makes sense. That was a very good speech there. He's right. I mean, seriously, go read it.

I'm sorry to do the shameless plug there, but everything I wrote eight years ago holds true now. When we were young, they had pitch counts. Sorry, you couldn't throw over 30 pitches. Yeah, pitch limits. Is that not a thing anymore, Jet? No, they have pitch limits. They just ignore them.

Whoa. Jeez. Yeah, yeah. It's a real issue. They have pitch limits. They are ignored, and none of the adults in the room step up and say that this is a problem. And this is pervasive in youth baseball. There was a study, guys, that was done.

Yeah, but if you win the Plumburro Classic. Dan, you're king forever. Life changing. Yeah, it is. That parking lot afterwards, his parents are having a good time. That's never going to be forgot about. Talk of the time. How many throws? 95. parents are having a good time. That's never going to be forgot about. Talk of the time. How many throws?

Yeah, 95. Proud of him, too. He's good. Nah, he's going tomorrow, actually. We got to pay him his classes tomorrow. We're over there tomorrow. There was a study that was done by an orthopedist in the University of Wisconsin. It was 1,000 teams from 8U to 14U, and they watched their pitch counts all summer long,

you know, thousands of games. More than 90% of the teams had violations of what's called pitch smart regulations, which is a group of limitations that was instituted by Dr. James Andrews and a bunch of other prominent orthopedists more than a decade ago. The greatest culprit of these pitch smart violations were eight U teams, meaning we are taking second graders and abusing their arms. Whoa. You want to talk about the sports youth system is completely backward, completely screwed up and needs to be overhauled. It's baseball. And why why when we're seeing what we're seeing now at the big league level like is it any surprise no it's not so what is it aj to your point what is it it's coach pitch t for what is it yeah like t ball then coach pitch is probably first grade second grade it's got to be the first year you're doing kid pitch and

you're saying they're they're trying to get these kids to throw breaking balls and stuff at 8U? Yeah, it's interesting. Like, if you look at the force data, and we can do, you know, 3D motion capture type stuff to see what kind of force is being implemented onto the limbs of these players. If you look at the force data, throwing a curveball is not necessarily worse for you than throwing a fastball. That's kind of an old myth. Now, if you throw a curveball incorrectly, yeah, it's going to screw up your arm. But it's, you know, what it is is volume at that age. It's volume and it's rest.

And there are kids who are not getting enough days off after they've thrown to give their arms time to recover. And it's kids who are throwing too many pitches because coaches want to go chase wins on that particular day man that's a that's a sad state of affair uh i don't know if they're going to be able to change that because there's so many leads they can't they can't change that pat absolutely they can you just need grown-ups who are trying to act in the best interest of the sport okay and finding the right yeah no we just did a whole thing on ipa stealing 16 million dollars like humans we're talking about humans are trying to act in the best interest of the sport. Okay, okay. And finding the right people. Yeah, we just did a whole thing on Ipe stealing $16 million. Like humans, we're talking about humans are going to have to correct this in a state of competition? Like that's not real.

I think that if you have the sorts of things in place, for example, there are apps right now that all teams use to track games and to track pitch counts and stuff like that. And if these apps can put something in place that can refer back to previous games and the number of pitches that kids were thrown, if someone tries to come in and all of a sudden the app flashes a red sign that says, no, this kid's not allowed to come in, that's when the parents can step up and do something about it.

Absolutely. Thank you, Pat. I appreciate that. That would be awesome. Yes. That would be awesome. Thank you, Pat. That would be awesome. It would be incredible. That would be so cool. You just give a kid another jersey and say, it's not him. He has plenty of armrests.

People don't flop things ever. Can you do that dance again, Pat? It's not a dance. It's a punch out. That's like whenever I'll get a speeding ticket like three weeks later Because they time me

From one thing to the next And then they And I get a speeding ticket I'm like what are we That feels like entrapment You didn't beat me That's bullshit I'm in your state

In a rental car None of you caught me But your poll Okay that sounds fake That sounds wrong But that would be a good play I'm in your state in a rental car. None of you caught me. No. But you're a pole. Okay. Okay, that sounds fake. That sounds wrong. But that would be a good play for these kids. Go back, and then the punishment is potentially there.

So it's always looming. Like, hey, we don't want to do this because if we get to where we want to go to, we'll end up losing it because that's the case. I hope it works out. Hey, this guy wrote a book on it. He did. Oh, yeah. This guy wrote a book on it.

The arm. Go ahead and read it today so we know what the causation of the elbow injuries is, although the correlation is potentially the pitch clock, which is making baseball much better. Good journalizing there out of you, pal. That's why you got that piece of metal. Now, let's pivot away from that for another massive day for baseball. D-Butt's got a question for you, Jeff.

Yeah, speaking of adults making correct decisions for the best interest of the game, 77 years ago, Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier. I was reminded today of my favorite pitcher, kid pitcher, Dontrell Willis. Is there anything else that they do around the league outside of everybody wearing 42? Is there any other initiatives that MLB is doing?

I know you've been covering for you know a couple decades now um not enough like that that's the reality if you look at the black player population in baseball it has gotten lower and lower and lower and you know there are a number of reasons for that mlb has tried through Reviving Baseball in the Inner Cities, the RBI program. It's built in, I think, a little more than a half dozen cities, urban youth academies that are there to provide fields and equipment for players in cities. But the truth is, Darius, baseball just doesn't sell itself well enough, I think, to black youth. It is not a cool game. And when you have the NFL there, when you have the NBA, and when you have the stars, and when you have the ability to go and play basketball with something as simple as

finding a hoop and then having a ball and just going out and having a run, when you can grab a football and you can play seven on seven,7, you can play 11-on-11, you don't need helmets, you don't need pads, you can just go play with your friends. With baseball, you need a bat. And bats are pretty expensive. And you need a glove. And gloves are pretty expensive. And you need a field.

And baseball fields are not getting maintained the same way that they used to. All of those things, I feel like, have contributed to the situation now. And there are plenty of really good young black baseball players. Don't get me wrong. I think that the sport has been as effective as it needs to be to bring everyone in and to convince communities that baseball is a game that you want to play got it um what is the percentage of the league do we know like latin right feels like that's yeah that's that would be my first guess. Probably the highest. And you talk about like not being able to afford stuff.

It's like baseball is huge in a lot of countries, right? They've got a lot of programs and like. Academies. Yeah, huge deal, right? You know what baseball is in America, though? Baseball in America is a country club sport. Hmm. Yeah.

Is that who those are? Bats cost five. Like good good bats if you're playing high level baseball good metal bats cost five hundred dollars good gloves five hundred dollars travel ball travel ball what you're doing in the summer is thousands of dollars to join a competitive team got it like it's it is not insignificant money and so uh you know so it ends up being a lot of a lot of well-off kids who are the ones playing baseball. So in the NFL, a lot of whites that make it are wealthy, wealthy whites because they've been around, you know, a long time. You're saying the same thing for baseball? 100 percent. Yeah.

I mean, the training that elite baseball players have now, you know, like they're going into these warehouses that have really good coaches and having private lessons and that, you know, that's the sort of thing you need access to gym equipment and to strength training programs. It's honestly, there's a lot of that new sports period these days, I think, like the wealth gap is a real thing. And it's why kids who are growing up economically disadvantaged still making it like I have the utmost respect for because they people in Indianapolis. Yeah, that's a big deal. As I've come through the entire ranks of this whole football thing, it's like learning what people went to in high school and the camps and things.

I'm like, that would have been nice. Who taught you? Ray Guy taught me. Oh. That Ray Guy? I didn't even know that. I didn't even know that. Yeah, it's a wild thing.

Let's keep throwing the sports. Let's keep throwing the sports. One person who might do it. Tom Diggs has a question for you, Joe. Yeah, Joe, we were talking earlier about velocity. And boy, there's a guy in AAA who's gone nine innings, has 19 Ks, given up zero earned runs, and throws over 100 consistently.

And the problem is, I said he is in AAA. When is Paul Skeens going to be in the league? When can I watch him with my own eyes on TV? Let's get him up now, okay? I mean, Tone, I hope the answer is soon because I'd like to see him in the big leagues too. He's clearly ready.

Honestly, he was ready the day he was drafted. Yeah, Toledo guardbirds, good luck dude. Good luck Toledo hens, good luck, dude. Good luck, Toledo hens. Good luck. What are they called? Mud hens. There it is.

Mud hens. Is it a contract thing yet? We got to wait until May so we get another year on the contract? What's going on? No, they're already past the day. I'm waiting. It's not going to happen again. I will not let it happen again.

What are you talking about? What do you mean what? I'm doing Paul Skeens right now. Yeah, he's skeening it. I'm not throwing a pitch. No, he doesn't have enough room to take a full hack. Look at his. He's in and out of it.

I can only pitch from here that I can't hit. Okay, he's a three-quarter guy, too. It's just BP. And I've already had my at-bat. Slid in a second. Yeah, still standing over there. I'm just talking about Paul Skeens. Absolutely.

Ghost man on second, dude. Guy's way to be driven is. Paul Skeens is nasty. He absolutely should be with the Pirates now. And I think it's probably going to happen sooner than later the next deadline tone to hold him down would be until like June if you want to keep him from getting an extra year of arbitration that's which is gonna bump his salary by you know potentially over the course of the four arbitration

seasons like ten plus million dollars so if you know if you want to save that money don't be cheap. We do know that ownership. We know if you tell them they could save $10 million potentially, they're going to do the best they can to save that $10 million. It's a new team. It's a new area. We got the Hundo boys. One of them

is just waiting in Indianapolis to go blow the roof. Well, they don't have a roof. Metaphorically. Blow Zambeli fireworks out of the river over there in Pittsburgh. Last question here, Jet, we appreciate you from Connor. Yeah, Jet, it's going to be pretty hard to grow the game if the game is no longer on TV. It seems as though

all of the MLB TV rights are being kind of let go and nobody wants to stream it anymore. What's the deal with that? And is there a future on one of these networks that is potentially being worked on that we don't know about? Yeah, I'm sorry. But when professional sports is the one non DVR thing that we have left, I have a difficult time believing that one of the professional sports leagues is going to be left out to dry.

Now, is it like it was in the past? Is the money going to be where it was in the past? That I don't know. And I think it's reflective of Major League Baseball standing in, you know, in the sports world that even despite all the things I just said about pro sports being the you have to watch it right now, that this is happening. And it's alarming to people inside of baseball. But it's not surprising because where baseball has gone over the last two decades, it is not nearly the national sport that it once was. It is a local parochial game right now. And they're pulling in 70 plus million people a year to ballparks to watch games. They've got minor league teams that are bringing in you know

hundreds of thousands more so it's not like people aren't watching baseball in person it's that if it's not your team you're not quite as sold on it nationally right now and it's something that you know the the league has to do a better job at frankly it's it's one of the reasons i enjoy coming on here because i like talking about baseball. I like talking about the game. I think it is a compelling product for people to look at outside of the team that they love and that there are a lot of great stories to be told. Like, like the one I thought I was coming on to talk about Angel Hernandez. Yeah. I was going to say for the end, I was going to say for the end,

but now we're at 30 seconds to a hard out. So. Oh boy. Well, yeah, he did to a hard out. Oh, boy. Well, yeah, he did a great job. Good work, Angel. Whoa. Show ends on ESPN, but it continues on YouTube and ESPN+, where Jet Passon will give his take on Angel Hernandez, the umpire that still has a gig somehow, even though the world is wondering why.

We'll be back tomorrow after a quick trip to Montreal tonight for Monday Night Raw. See you then. Goodbye! Nailed it. Right there, Jet. Let's go. Take a swing. Just like my double. Good hack. You were judging, Jet. By the way,

it's hard to hit a hard out on the dot. I got a lot of respect for you for doing that. For real. That is totally sincere. His OPS is nasty this year. Yeah, I've been doing okay. It depends. It'll be like week to week, day to day, hour to hour, really. Sure.

On whether or not I remember. Sometimes I'll catch it late and it's like, well, sorry about it. We just, we're out of here. And it doesn't necessarily put us in good graces with a lot of people, but we're in the middle of a conversation. Sorry, we got lost. Speaking of getting lost lost out here a tweet that was sent this weekend went i did not expect it i was just seeing like four or five clips in a row about this angel hernandez guy being the worst umpire of all time a one two three strike all out of the strike zone and

you've listened to commentators they go what what Oh, no. This has gotten worse. That's really bad. Yeah, go back to the beginning. Oh, it's good to have you back in the booth. I know you. 2-1. And, oh, my goodness. 2-2.

You have got to be kidding me. So, like, it feels like everybody. And then I put that tweet, because I saw earlier videos from other games where this guy is just full of shit, has no idea what he's talking about. And we've obviously had an officiating issue in the NFL for a while. We don't have it figured out. Some refs last too long.

They were great for maybe 20 years, but then the last 30 years of them serving on the field, they were horrendous. Then they get put in charge somehow of everybody, and it's like, what is the deal here? For this guy, clearly not good at what he does. Everybody in baseball hates him. Now, nobody's going to love the ref or an umpire. I understand that.

But every single fan base ran with this tweet and are like, good question. Then everybody said the union? The union's the reason why he's there? Is that real? And what does this mean? How many Angel Hernandez's are in the MLB where he's just absolute crap at called balls and strikes, which seems to be the most important part of the entire job?

The union is a big part of it. Absolutely. The umpire union? Yeah. It's hard to fire an umpire. Very, very, very difficult to get rid of an umpire i wonder if it's the irish or the italian did they form it not the irish they've i mean they've had a union for for decades now and you know the the union like a couple decades ago they uh they stuck

together uh during work stoppage and a bunch of them ended up getting fired. Um, so that was, you know, that was like a cleansing in the past. Um, how many guys are there like Angel Hernandez? You know, he's not the worst actually when it comes to balls and strikes. Uh,

there, yeah, there are, there are some worse ones out there. There, there were no worse calls. That third cutter from JP France was almost seven inches off the plate. Pitcher knows that, right?

Oh, hell yeah. Because you saw Dane Dunning in that highlight afterward going and feasting on that outside corner, too. Like when he saw that Angels giving the outside corner right now, he's going to go and take it. That was a good highlight clip. There you go. See, he's going to the same spot. Like the ones that J.P.ance were throwing there that those were bad but dunning was coming right in afterward and knowing that that's what his zone is for the day pat there's a fix to this

like a very easy fix right um at triple a right now they are using robot amps. Here we go. We're taking our job! Wouldn't you like that job to be taken if those are going to be the calls though, right? What do they take next? Are they the pitchers? Are bats too? Are they playing baseball

all of a sudden? Connor, how's that going to work? I don't know, but they might. You give it a inch, they take a mile. That's legit. I've seen robot golfers. I've seen robot golf swings. I've seen robot kickers. I've seen robot basketball players.

Could easily see robot pitcher to robot hitter. That's right. 20 bucks a game, they all get paid. Exactly. I've watched that. Send it home to their families.

How's that working in AAA that people hate it or love it? It's awesome. It's fantastic. In fact, if you go look back at Paul's... What's it look like? No, here's the thing. There's still a home plate umpire who's

making the calls, right? So right now what they're doing is they have a challenge system in place. So it's just a pump. Yeah, he's got a pump. I don't know. I'm just telling you. How quick is it is it fast enough that he can do it like it feels normal that's a ball oh i mean it's instantaneous agent like you don't you don't know the difference but

the best the best version of it is not the full automated balls and strike system it's the challenge system and paul schemes did this twice, actually, where he threw a pitch. It got called the ball, taps it on the head a couple of times, just like that. Within five seconds up on the Jumbotron is a pitch trail coming in.

Tap on his head. That was a fucking straight. Here we go. That's bullshit. Two, three, four, five.

Boom. Boom. They called it a ball though. Boom. Boom. Ha! Ring him up. They called it a ball, though? Paint. Yeah. No, they called it a ball, but it got overturned to a strike.

Well, then how the robots are getting it wrong? How the robots are getting it wrong and then challenging to get it right? No, the human called it a ball. Human called it ball. Robot called strike. That's AAA, isn't it? Yeah. Didn't you say in AAA they're doing robot?

No, he's saying the humans are still calling balls and strikes, but you can challenge. With the robot. I thought it was telling them ball or strike. Yeah, that's what I thought you said. It does that half of the time. Half the time it's full automated balls and strikes. Half the time it's a challenge. How do I know when? So in like a final

two minutes and a half? No, it depends on the days. Like the first half of the week is one, the second half of the week is the other. Because they're trying to gather intel? Exactly. They're doing that so they can have like A-B testing and compare the two systems and then go to the competition committee and say, hey, this is

the data that we have from each of these things. Got it. So the one where I could be an up, the one where the robot's doing it. Is that right? This is a deliver of messages. Oh, my God.

They start getting celebrity. Hey! Yeah. I have a bad idea. With the ump cam. Oh, yeah. So you can hear everything that. Yeah, but I mean, you also got to know the rules for all the times that the ball is in play.

You got to call. You got to call. There's a play at the plate. You got to make that call, right? You got to call the play at the plate, don't you? Can't a robot do that? Yeah. And then that's kind of what they become. They're just the ones that pop up.

Delivering the message. Yeah. They go back. There's a pit. Hi. That'd be sweet. You might want to. You might wanna You might wanna They're gonna take a closer look

They're gonna take a closer look That's a wild thing Change the outfit What days of the week Do the fans know When it's the robot And the real human Yeah fans know

Oh my god Like we Crowd No Don't look at the robot Yeah Couldn't even imagine Alright Jet

We appreciate it I like the fact that baseball is trying to change. Baseball is trying to be exciting. But I hope the correlation isn't the causation. Sure. Because if what's good for baseball is ruining baseball, that is the most baseball thing of all time. And that sucks.

Okay, just want to let you know that. And, Jet, we appreciate you, brother. Boys, always a pleasure. And thank you for all of your kindnesses i appreciate that about the award pat i look forward to you winning your first award it's gonna be great nah i refuse to be nominated ladies and gentlemen jeff passan that was a full conversation in and of itself it's not uh today's not the day for it people really care about those awards i'm proud of them. All of them.

What was Jets award from? There's like different award seasons I feel like. Are we in an award season right now? It's all categories. Encompasses all categories. I just know if Herbstreet doesn't win his, I'm going to burn this fucker to the ground.

You mean Turk Herbstreet? Yeah, well that's a good point. He's going to get one either way. Kirk Heathwood. Oh, Gates, you're talking about when they were putting fake names up on the internet. My understanding of the situation is

I was not there for it, but I have heard stories. So allegedly the on-air talent talent not necessarily worthy of award if show wins award. Yes. It's just the people behind the scenes that made the show. Sure. So the people that are voting on the Emmys are the people that are all in those positions.

So I think that's quite an awesome thing for them to do. Sure. That the ones that are actually doing it ain't like you do that yeah it's behind the scenes there it works put a monkey up there you can raise the prompter kidding me from my understanding that yeah that's how it feels so somebody being like you know i think the people that might you know speak up every once in a while in meetings and think about going things and execute and do the whole thing. That's my understanding, but that's coming from a biased point of view

of people that got their Emmys taken out of their houses. Actually taken out of their houses. People showed up at their houses, took the Emmys out. Like the IRS. Bingo. They're taking our trophy. That's literally what they were doing in that entire thing. That's what I heard.

But we won't be in the Emmy dance anytime. Whatever. Don't need to. It's a weird world. I want it. Yeah. Think about that. Think about that.

It is a weird world. And we've only been in the game for six, seven years or whatever. These people fucking love these awards, dude. Love them. Well, there's probably some kind of formula, too, that kind of puts you on a good path to get some of those awards. I would imagine, like, how you structure a show, whatever they're doing. They're probably thinking about that a lot.

Yeah, that's true. They're trying not to suck. Like we are. That's what we're doing. Our show sucks. So I couldn't even fathom. To AJ's point, though, if someone wins an Emmy, it's probably like, okay, here we go.

Like, this is the line of the next Mike Greenbergs right here. They're lining up, and one of them is there, and he's holding it. Remember Schrags came on after Good Morning Football won? Oh, yeah. It was Super Bowl speech. Oh, yeah. I'm like, holy shit. And then you think about, like, journalism school and everything.

This is their entire lives. Yeah. So congrats to all those that have been on there. I hope you win. Yeah. Amen. Congratulations. For me, I didn't know they existed.

And then we get in the world and everybody's like, you guys going to nominate yourself? Submit? Yeah. Submit a reel. Send in a sizzle reel? Yeah. We don't deserve one. Oh, is that what you have to do?

Yeah, submit one. I think everybody does. Network does for you. How long of a reel? Seven, eight hours. I'm not sure. I have no idea. But we are pumped for everybody. Everybody on there, awesome.

Big fans of. Some people not, but you know what we're saying. Let's get to a break. Hour three will be on the other side. CeCe Sabathia will be joining us. We got our Emmy in this office. The Thunderdome is a hole? No. You remember

Talks got one. Fancy from Lumberland. Oh my god. Talks got one. Talks got an Emmy? Oh yeah. With his name for shoot, brother. That should tell you a lot. I got Talk proud of you, man. That's an Emmy award winner. He is a dog. He's locked in.

Talk was also with Dumpy at that Red Sox game, both of them, in which they lost. You guys might be the reason. Maybe Talk. Talk is a massive mush, but I'm not going to take the heat for that one. I mean, Talk just made an absolute mess of my bus, WrestleMania.

Yeah, he did. Just absolutely. What do you mean? Dropped everything. He just dumped ice all over the place, spilled drinks all over the floor. Brought M&Ms in there, dumped them all over the place.

Melted on the leather. I mean, it was like, talk. Great to see you out of the Thunderdome, but also, get the fuck out of my bus. Good run. I love you. I love you. I gotta nap. Sorry about it. I love that, dude. Oh, yeah. One of one. One of one.

There has never been another. That's why he deserves an Emmy. Bingo. That's standard. That's why we appreciate it Emmy. Bingo. Yeah. That's standard. That's why we appreciate it. Speaking of Emmy winners, Charles Barkley will join us tomorrow. What? Brock Purdy will join us tomorrow. What?

Neil Shipley will join us tomorrow. Wow. Yeah, a guy with a good side. Yep. Somebody was trying him. Yeah. Is there a phone ringing? I also heard that.

Anybody else hear it? I heard the vibration sound on table, yes. No, I heard like... Oh, I heard the... I might be tripping. No, Aya, though. Aaron Rodgers, did you know that was happening? He was going to voluntary camp? No.

What are you guys talking about? This guy's bullshit. Aya. I don't get it. I know. He said he'd be at a lot of the workouts, I think, like a month ago. Okay.

I didn't say, okay, you're going to be at all of them. I didn't say, oh, you're going to be at every single one of them. Sports are awesome. Sports are fantastic. We get to talk about them every single day. The weather has broke. You owe some taxes. And that man right there is A.J. Sports are fantastic. We get to talk about them every single day. The weather has broke. You owe some taxes. And that man right there is A.J. Hawk.

Yeah! Talk to the tables here at Boss Corner at Tyshmate. Calm man. Great shirt. Boston. Big day. Heard the Red Sox stink, but that's not what it's all about. It's Marathon Day. You're obviously from the area. Today's a huge day, I assume, in the entire town, especially with what took place a few years back.

Yeah, Marathon Monday. At this point now, the bombing was 11 years ago, so a lot of those kids from that generation growing up in that experience. Like, for instance, I was in high school, so a lot of my buddies from high school are now running it. I know there's a lot of those stories. 281 people hurt, three died, a couple cops died as well after. So it has become just the biggest thing. I mean, people come home for it. Most people who grew up

in New England obviously know of the marathon. I mean, basically everyone does, but it's become such an event, even more so after the fact of the bombing, that it has become just a big celebration of the city and how awesome it is. And I think someone finished it today in like two hours and ten minutes or something. Four, maybe two hours and four

minutes. Four minutes, yeah, yeah. It's incredible. What is it's incredible what is 26 point 26.2 sheesh so far long long journey yeah and they start with the socks and everything so old buddy who won uh he was on the ground which i appreciated seeing you know i've seen these marathon guys finish and they just jog through and then or sprint through and then they grab a water, and they just walk away. I'm like, how does that even happen? This guy on ground. He sold out. Thank you to him.

Shout out to Boston bouncing back. Hey, what a fucking town. Yeah, that whole situation was crazy. The Patriots Day obviously came out that Thursday where they ended up catching Joe Carr. The town that it was in, Watertown, was right next to the town of where my school was. So I actually drove to school that day, get to school. Hey, there's no school today because they had to shut down all the neighboring towns while that situation was going on.

And the bottom of a boat was tarped off. Yeah, people getting pulled out of their houses at 4 a.m. because they're looking for them and everything. People getting pulled out of their houses at 4 a.m. because they're looking for them and everything. That's something that I know everyone from the Boston area always remembers where they were when that went off. And I don't want to give a speech to people, but let's remember when assholes try to ruin great things for all of us, we can't let them win.

We cannot let them. And that's, I think, what Boston showed. Oh, yeah. I think they were that entire thing. And, you know, the Red Sox, they stink now, but the Red Sox ended up winning the World Series that year. David Ortiz brought the trophy to the – And what did Poppy say?

Didn't he give a speech? Yeah. It's our fucking city. Ain't nobody going to fucking dictate how we live or what we do. It was awesome. That is fucking – Come on. Truly.

Come on. One half of the hammer. Die. Cowboys 10, Diggins here 10. You fucking okay. Come on. Truly. Come on. One half of the hammer. Die. Cowboys 10, Diggins here 10. You look great. Thank you. And I'm not down 40 million, so that's pretty good. Speaking of.

You are a gambler. Yeah. Impe Misuhara, allegedly, down 40 million. Had paid off 16 million of the 40 million owed. So there was another 24 million that was owed. And allegedly the bookie, either himself or his clean-up guy, which we assume all illegal bookies who are still existing in 2024 still have like they did back in the day, was eyeballing Shohei ready to take him out.

We don't like that at all. No. Guy texted him or whatever and said, hey, I'm outside and it's Friday. You still haven't paid. Looking at so-and-so right now because they are victim A right now. Maybe I should just go up and talk to him. Oh, he likes baseball, huh? How about a bat across the shins?

Unless you give me $24 million. He said, hey, I'm just a bad gambler, I guess. Merry Christmas. LOL. Don't worry. That's like a never-ending fun. We can't go in right now, obviously. He's starting to catch on a little bit.

He was wondering why his one particular account was drained, but I told him we bought houses. He had two home runs today. $700 million is coming. Don't worry about it, Paul. Hey, Shohei, we're on your side, miss. I saw people after me calling Ipe Mitsuhara a piece of shit on the internet saying it seems like the media is coming out a little bit too strong behind Shohei. Of course. on your side, miss. I saw people after me calling Ipe Mitsuhara a piece of shit on the internet saying,

seems like the media's coming out a little bit too strong behind Shohei. Of course. Really? It's like, yo, I'm an ex-player in this particular standpoint who's going to bat for a professional athlete that was preyed upon by somebody that he trusted, which has happened a lot in professional sports in the NFL. It has happened a lot.

People I know, it has happened to. So yeah, I'm going to come out on Shohei's side because I don't like people calling him the problem in this entire thing. And maybe he should have been a little bit more careful about his money, but he trusted people to take care of things. And I assume he assumes that the people he hired are just as good at their jobs

as he is at his job. And then whenever these people completely backstab and steal, allegedly, from him, that's got to be hard for him. He's got to be bummed out. He's got to be bummed out. How does he trust anybody moving forward?

Ever. Ever. For anything. Like, legitimately. Like, this, especially if it's, ah. That's tough. Gumby mentioned it, too. Like, Ipe was, you know, in the dugout

at the World Baseball Classic with all the, like, Japanese players on that team, too. So, obviously, Shohei's feeling all that. He's probably embarrassed, too, of any of his friends from Japan. His family. Think about his family. Because he's a hero. Yeah. So, what an idiot.

There's a chance, you know? Oh, yeah. For sure. We're on your side, Shohei. Not just media. I'm doing that because it feels like you got a hustler preyed on you and won, you know? Yeah. Also been pro player. Until he lost.

Yeah. Nine-year NFL vet, a man who looks very cool today, Darius J. Butler. Great fit. D-Bot, you watched the live golfers lose this weekend as the PGA Tour reigned supreme and Scotty Scheffler remained the greatest golfer on earth that we'd ever seen. How was the weekend? How was the golf game, pal? Weekend was great.

The Masters was great, once again. The golf weekend was great for me as well. My brother beat, went 2-0 in the weekend against Lil Bro, so that's always good. Well, at Butler Birdie. At Butler Birdie hierarchy, I'm still at the top. Hey, congratulations. Feels good.

That was your winner. How was the game? How was the game? Pretty good. Coming along. I'm consistently breaking like 95. So like that's, you know's consistently breaking 105, 100. So now I'm at that 90, 95.

Yeah, but I remember when you were offended when people were giving you like three-inch gimmies. I still don't take gimmies. Respect. I still don't take them. I don't need shit from you. You should. That 95 might go down to like 85 if you start doing that.

No, I don't know. But it's not real. I can't sleep. It's real. Unless you're on the live or PGA, it's real. On live, it might be, too. Yeah, we don't know. Especially like a birdie or par.

Oh, yeah. Double bowie. All right, yeah, put me out of my misery, but no, I'm not taking it. Yeah, par if somebody gets to you, you pick that thing right up and walk off that green. AJ doesn't need it because this is like the greatest golfer I've ever seen. Bullshit. Okay. The golf gods bless you.

You know that one on nine where Scotty hits it from 89 yards out and that thing back spins and it's rolling towards the hole and then all of a sudden it goes the different direction? Yours would be on the side of the green, back spin, and go track to the hole. That is how golf gods bless AJ Hawk. The golf gods

should have blessed Scotty Scheffler for this one instead. At the very end. Oh, my God. We got one. Come on. Unbelievable. That's the only thing that didn't go his way all weekend. Yeah.

He had a couple. He had a bogey, I believe, which was a big deal. Yeah. Holy hell. He hasn't shot over par this year. Not one round. Not one oopsie-daisy round. Guy's the best.

That could be you, though, I think, if you were to focus on golf full-time, AJ, legitimately. Not Scotty. Not Scotty, but you get it. It could not with me. But, yeah, with Scotty, what I love about Scotty, he feels like he's one of these guys that doesn't overcomplicate it. And we know professional golfers are known to overcomplicate things and think about every single tiny little detail. Scotty feels like he is swinging, trying to be athletic. You, just like Scotty, you fall out of your shoes.

Oh, yeah. Same one. I've been flipping forever. People are like, oh, you really need some new golf shoes. I'm like, that to be athletic. You, just like Scotty, you fall out of your shoes. Oh, yeah. Same one. People are like, oh, you really need some new golf shoes. I'm like, that's just how I swing, bud. Sorry. Longest drive on like four different holes in American Century Championship history or something. What? Yes.

Legit. Yes. This fucker is driving the thing to the green on like 450-yard par fours, cutting corners because he hits the ball so high. It is a dong show. It is. You got, AJ, a big draw? Straight as fuck.

Dead straight. I used to hit – no joke. I used to just hit big slices into the woods, and now if I do, it goes a big draw into the woods because I've been – if I fall forward, that's the only way I hit the ball straight. So, like, I have to actively try to fall forward. He hits that thing like this. It goes – it's literally like – I hit the ball straight. So, like, I have to actively try to fall forward. He hits that thing like this. It goes, it's literally like.

And then it just floats. And then sometimes, though, you can top it nine feet off the tee. I've never seen it. I've actually never seen it. Two years, eight rounds together. Miserable rounds. Miserable rounds. Tired, exhausted.

The way his knees are, he can barely walk in these fucking courses, too. Never told me about it. Mentally tough. Yeah, of course you're going to be sore. Of course, never topped one ever. Only hit bombs. Let's pivot away from golf. Thank you to golf for this weekend. And shout out to the NBA, which has their playoff

picture in place. Joining us now from The Athletic and FanDuel TV, the ever-handsome and smart, ladies and gentlemen, Sham Sharaya. Sham Sharaya. Pat, what a time. You got NBA playoffs. Kaitlyn Clark about to be drafted very, very soon.

How's Indy feeling right now? Indy gets Milwaukee in the first round. How do you guys feel about that? Okay, so let's just dive right into it. Excited Kaitlyn Clark's here. We already have season tickets. We are supportive. Hell yeah.

We are in there. I don't know what they're going to do with her salary because I heard it. Excited. Caitlin Clark's here. We already have season tickets. We are supportive. Hell yeah. We are in there. We are. I don't know what they're going to do with her salary because I heard it's a $78,000 rookie contract. She's going to be selling suites and arenas all around WNBA worth that amount on one particular night, let alone the other 40, 40 games. Anyways, we appreciate the fact that Caitlin Clark has done what she has done in the manner in which she has done them.

And when she gets to Indiana, it is going to be electrifying. She'll be on the show, actually, if she gets drafted by the Fever, we're told. If she gets drafted by the Fever, she'll be on the show Wednesday. Okay. Let's hope. If she gets drafted by the Fever, who knows? There might be a little shake

up at the top. We're hoping. Fingers crossed. We're hoping. A lot gets made about the WNBA salary, but listen, Kaitlyn Clark is not going to have problems making money off the court. I think when you think about shoe deal, when you think about endorsement deals, there's going to be a lot for Kaitlyn Clark in her future. I do know that

for a fact. There's also going to be a lot for the owners of the WNBA because somebody's going to come in and sell out every single one, you know, so as we're pocket watching, let's remember who's profiting off of who, but yes, I completely agree for the good of the WNBA. For the good of the WNBA because somebody's going to come in and sell out every single one. So as we're pocket watching, let's remember who's profiting off of who. But yes, I completely agree. For the good of the WNBA. For the good of the WNBA. With Kaitlin Clark and that entire... Hey, they got some players over there.

And they're all talking shit kind of towards Kaitlin. Not all of them, but seemingly. Welcome to the women's league. Welcome to the college. Can't wait for the W to take off. And congrats to everybody that gets drafted tonight and has their dreams come true. Let's talk about the playoffs.

Because the boys are going to have questions about the play-in and a lot of stuff like that. The Pacers do have Yonason, boys. I have heard Yonason isn't playing. Are the Pacers about to go on a run right now, Shams? Is that what's taking place? Tyrese Halliburton, Miles Turner, and the boys who, they can fill it up. They score. They are electrifying. They are fun to watch. They can go on a run right now? taking place Tyrese Halliburton Miles Turner and the boys who they can fill it up they score they

are electrifying they're fun to watch they can go on a run right now or what are we thinking here with Giannis? Pat I think you went to a game and you I think you you posted with TJ McConnell and Tyrese Halliburton and you said they're dogs so I think you might have been way ahead of it before anyone but yes they get the six seed they get Milwaukee and they've had kind milwaukee's number to an extent this season in the in-season tournament afterward we know there also was that incident where there was the ball confusion janice obviously was upset he didn't get the game ball after one of the games um so this is a rivalry game to an extent given the season given everything that's happened but yeah the the question about janice and did the gumbo whether he's gonna play or not in game one on Sunday,

that's the big question around the Bucs, around the series, around the league. He's having daily treatment. He had a calf strain, non-contact calf strain, about six days ago. He's been having treatment every single day around the clock. He's trying his best to go out there and play. But there's real doubt. There's real doubt. There's real concern around the Bucs, around the team,

about whether he's actually going to be able to start this series. At least in game one, his status is very much up in the air and is more doubtful than not. But he has a superhuman ability to come back. We've seen him play through pain a few years ago in the NBA Finals in Phoenix. He was supposed to be out several weeks. He ends up playing after just one week. But this is a calf injury, Pat.

You guys know a lot about calves. You can't mess around with a calf injury because that can lead to potentially more severe injuries in your leg. A lot of calves in the spring. This is baby season for the farms. But calves are something that's delicate. It is a very important muscle, but it has a lot of little parts. That's right. And if one of them just locks up,

it could be problematic, let alone getting back to 100%. Even though Giannis the Greek Freak, he was quicker than everybody. The Pacers and I, and we have never said that before, just as Indianapolis native here, Pacers and I would like to let the Greek Freak know,

you get healthy, buddy. Yeah, come on. Come on, dude. You don't want to. Bingo. Yeah, he's good. Nant to the gumbo. Thonis.

Thonis. Thonis. Put him in. Yeah. But really, as NBA fans, as people around the league, the stakes are high for the Bucs. We know that. The stakes are high.

You get Damon Lillard. You have Giannis. This is a championship-robust season for sure. But the stakes ares. We know that. The stakes are high. You get Damon Lillard, you have Giannis. This is a championship or bust season for sure, but the stakes are even higher for Giannis in terms of this injury where he's at in his career. You want to be careful to an extent. That's not something that Giannis wants to hear, but you're going to have to be careful

with an injury like this. He's already had... Giannis? Don't you talk about me. He's already had Achilles. He's already had hamstring injuries this year on that same leg. We'll see if Giannis can make it back in this series at some point. Didn't Giannis. Don't you talk about me. He's already had Achilles. He's already had hamstring injuries this year on that same leg. So we'll see if Giannis can make it back in this series at some point. Didn't Giannis say something about, like, I just hope my team wants to win so I need to invest in this entire thing and then they go get Dame time? So now it's like that was the team almost saying,

huh, now it's your turn to kind of go and do it? Is that an accurate reading? I mean, he'd love to play with the Cavs. And he's played all year. I mean, he's going to play with the Cavaliers. And he's played all year. I mean, he's going to be a guy that's going to be considered All-NBA. Talk about that pressure. There's high, high pressure for him, for Dame, for this organization. This last few weeks when they've been struggling,

this has been as pressure-packed as possible for this team. But with Giannis, you have to be careful. But, I mean, this Indiana team, it kind ofnis you have to be careful but I mean this Indiana team it kind of is a contrast to what Milwaukee likes right like their team that that plays a little bit more slower pace Indiana just runs runs and runs they're gonna be off tempo high offense team and Milwaukee has struggled defensively at times this year so we'll see Indiana to me it's it's a two completely different styles Giannisnis, though, probably a little more motivated because if you remember, the Pacers

took his 64-point ball for the rookie that scored his first basket. There is beef there. It knocked him out of the in-season. I talked to Halliburton, who had a superstar rise during the in-season tourney that inevitably they would lose to the Lakers.

Congrats to the Lakers hanging in there. He feels healthy healthy he feels good about the boys yeah they're rolling right now they couldn't miss yesterday yeah finish your story tyrese go ahead aj shams how confident are you in the boston celtics you know the ability to capitalize on the great regular season they had and make it run at least get to the finals very confident i mean this is championship robust as well but even more so with them they've been head and shoulders above every team in the league i mean denver sure has been great oklahoma city we know about minnesota we know about but boston year in and year out under the jason tatum era and jalen brown they've been to multiple conference finals

they've been doing nba finals in 2022 they have drew holiday now. You have Christos Porzingis. You have Al Horford coming off your bench. Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, both at the peaks of their careers right now in their prime. This, to me, is about as championship robust as it gets. They obviously need to win a championship. They want to win

a championship. You have to give Joe Mizzou a lot of credit. He's been trying different tactics throughout the course of the year, and now everything is going to come about in the playoffs. For sure, this team should be the favorite going in. There's going to be competition out west, but Boston

is the favorite right now out of the East. Well, Giannis is looking to finish his story too. We'll see. There's a lot of stories that need to be finished, but Boston... Well, Philly as well. Philly, you have Joel Embiid. He looks healthy. He looks back.

What do you mean? He wants to finish his story. He's back. Embiid's back. He's healthy. He's back. He's healthy. He's set to play in this playing tournament against Miami.

And Miami, Jimmy Butler. You can never count on Jimmy Butler in the Eastern Conference. I know I'm not. Last question here from Tone Diggs. Yeah, Shams, there's a guy who's in the Eastern Conference. I know I'm not. Last question here from Tom Diggs. Yeah, Shams, there's a guy who's in the Hall of Fame for speaking of microphones. His name is Mike Greeny-Greenberg. Two Hall of Fames.

Sorry, two Hall of Fames. He suggested that the Lakers should purposely lose to the Pelicans so that they don't have to play the Denver Nuggets in the first round and then they could play the winner of the 9-10 and then hopefully get OKC in the first round. Is there any talk of that? Are the Lakers going to sit everybody in that first game against Pelicans so they don't have to play the Nuggets if they win?

I'm not going to lie to you. I thought about that as well last night when I was looking at the playoff seedings and everything like that, but you can't. You can't do that because the risk is too great. Let's say even if you did tank in that 7-8 game and then you have to play either the Warriors or the Kings at home in L.A., what if you lose that? Then it's like, all right, we did all this only to lose.

Now we're not even in the playoffs. So the risk is too great. They're going for the win. They're trying to beat New Orleans tomorrow and then play Denver. And at that point, you just get Denver out of the way. You play them early. You're going to beat New Orleans tomorrow and then play Denver. At that point, you just get Denver out of the way. You play them early. You're going to have to face them eventually anyway. If you can't beat Denver in the first round,

you're definitely not going to beat them later. Plus, you do have LeBron James, Anthony Davis healthy, rejuvenated early in the playoffs versus later and later as these rounds go. Yeah, you want to get hot. You want to get hot right now. You want to go on a run. Hey, Joker shows though this is his time. Excited to see what the NBA shapes out to be.

Who's MVP? Shea or Joker? Who's MVP? So I see that OKC team has the youngest average age for any team that's ever made the playoff or had one seed or something like that. Is that right? They went from the play-in, not in the playoffs to the one seed. 23.4 years old average or something like that.

Younger than North Carolina, I believe. Most 30-point games in the NBA for Shea Gills Alexander this year go from out of the playoffs, in the play-in, to the number one seed. Youngest team to win the number one record. Pretty impressive to me. It's a new era.

It's a new era. Young guns at OKC. Are they going to win it all? They're going to have a chance. But listen, if you're the Lakers, I think Lakers warriors, given how experienced they are, they have championship pedigree, they're going to be very confident going into that series against Oklahoma City. Plus 150. It's almost like Scotty Scheffler odds. I mean, truly.

Huge gap. That's why, if it doesn't happen this year, the city is going to implode. Well, we hope that's not the case. I agree. For the good of the Celtics fan base, which is a passionate one. Remember that? Yeah, they're a passionate group. They say stuff, don't they? Boston Connor would have some very sleepless nights.

Yes. If the Celtics don't get the job done this year. Hey, did you hear Kelsey Plum call you Sean the other day? I was about to say, I thought you guys should have backed me up on my name at least. Well, we ran with it. We thought she might maybe do something. You guys way ran with it. You guys flew with that one. What are you talking about?

Sean. I'm just changing my name. I'm changing my name to Sean now, you know? It's not a bad name, actually, when she said it. S-H-A-W-N, Sean. Sean Shroyan. And then just make the first name the last name because that would be a great name. Shroyan Sean.

Sean Shomps. Sean Shomps. Ooh. Sean Shomps Shroyan. Yeah. Boom. Oh, they're a superhero. Yeah, that's good.

That's kind of tough. That is kind of tough. All right. We appreciate you, Sean. Have a good one. He's called Katie. KP. Wow.

Be careful, Sean. I said KP. I'm nice. I'm a nice guy. Kelsey KP. I'm a nice guy. You are a nice guy. Yeah, you are. Good Wow. Be careful, Sean. I said KP. I'm nice. I'm a nice guy. Kelsey, KP. I'm a nice guy. You are a nice guy. Yeah, you are.

Good at what you do, too. Congrats on the NBA being at their pinnacle right now. We'll continue to chat with you, hopefully, as the weeks roll on. How long is this whole thing? When's the finals? Finals? Finals of finals? Finals in June.

Early June for the finals. First round starts Saturday, Sunday. Bingo. Game twos, Monday to Wednesday next week. We're in full force. Playing tournament Tuesday, Wednesday. I know Pat's hype. Pat's hype.

I see it. Primetime games every single time. Every night. I feel like this is really the only basketball that a lot of people see. Yes. So this is where stars are made, you know? Like how long? LeBron was in the playoffs until the finals.

Like what? Like 13 straight years or something like that? Yeah. I think he went to 10 straight finals, 13 straight conference finals. The amount of primetime games that is. You know, not that he wouldn't get that, but, like, that's when everybody's tuning in. Two and a half months right now. So long.

Good luck out there. We appreciate you, Sean. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Shamsaroyan. Yeah, Sean! Sean, Sean.! Sean, Sean. Not Sean, John. No, no, no. What's going on?

He's reading a list. Is he still hanging out? Just in real life? I don't know. Is there new developments? I think that this thing, right, kind of comes in and takes over the whole conversation. Yeah, I think that did. But then I do believe Juju Smith-Schuster was leaving his house and that he decided to post something on Snapchat on the way out.

Juju's poll is on the internet. He hit a post, no catching it. Gidell's going to deal with an average-sized thing again. No fun for anyone. We know the deal. What's done is done. Second Amendment rights. Juju's showing off his

little guy. Is that a freestyle? Well, I don't know why that just happened. He did put his bong on the internet. He did. Did he mean to? I knew he did. Was it a Drake situation?

It was weird. It was not a Drake situation? That was weird. Was that a Drake situation? He meant to take the photo, no doubt about it. Now, did he click story by accident? Maybe. You think that was supposed to? So I don't know the platform as well. Very similar.

Easy to. Very similar to IG. Yeah. Where like on the bottom, you can just real quick, boop, add to story. So we had a me tweet going for some cheap heat, potentially. Bingo. But instead, that thing went public to everybody see me. Yeah.

I'm going to send it to my friends, me and this girl all my dick. But instead of sending it to my friends, I accidentally sent it to them. We don't need the photo. Thank you. Hopefully that was done. It's done. That thing's gone. I like that the question was asked. Thank you, though, Zito. I don't even know how we go to this guy.

I am so sorry. That's actual news though. That happened. That's not our fault. And it had to do with the Patriots. We've talked about the Patriots a lot today. Tom Brady might be coming back. Bingo. Is he still on the Patriots? Maybe that's what Neil was looking at. He's a free agent. For now.

He's on the patch right now. Join us now, ladies and gentlemen, in a baseball pack show. Bat two balls on internet, though. Boom. Yesterday. Yes, it was. Well said. Out of nowhere.

Had no idea. It wasn't golf. Came out of nowhere. Let's move along. It was a mistake. It was a mistake. He's going to be embarrassed. He don't like that. It wasn't golf. Came out of nowhere. Let's move along. It was a mistake. It was a mistake. He's going to be embarrassed. He don't like that. I don't know. I don't know if Jonathan gets embarrassed. No, you can't.

He used to do that shit before the games. That's not embarrassing. Thank you, D-Vac. You just plopped it out, though. I don't understand it. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, in a completely different sport, in a completely different sport and a completely different conversation.

I do apologize to this man, but it's news. Sorry. It's football news. Yeah, it is. He's a free agent. He's a Super Bowl champion still playing.

What are we supposed to do? We are journalizing, aren't we? We're journalists. Yeah. That's the show. He isn't a free agent, unfortunately.

Oh, he's still in the Patriots? Yeah. Signed a three-year deal last year. May I have to call him into the office. Oh, he's still in the Patriots? Yeah. It's not a three-year deal last year. May I have to call him into the office? Oh, yeah. I don't know if Kraft could. I get it. What you're trying to do.

Trying to get your pecker out there. I get it. I'm a Mayo guy. Juju, we're pulling for you, Bob. He's going to have to go to classes. They're going to put a whole thing. We'll see. The NFL is going to you. Yeah, I was going to for you, Bob. He's going to have to go to classes. They're going to put a whole thing. Well, we'll see. The NFL is going to you. Oh, the NFL.

Yeah, I was going to say Cap Couch. He's got Cap Couch. You're so rude. Guys go football player when he's playing football good. With Mahomes, yes. Well, and Ben. He had a good time with Ben. True. When AB was running out there.

Maybe that's how he got. Hey, I'm going to take this out of the AB book. Maybe I'll get better next year. So we were talking earlier about Tyreek Hill. Maybe Tom Brady comes back to play for the Miami Dolphins. I think Tyreek Hill currently on Antonio Brown's podcast, CTE ESPN. Nice. I cannot wait.

Co-host? No, I think he was a guest. Nice. I'm excited to hear that entire thing. Right now, the weapons around the NFL are absurd. They're talking about, I think, seven wide receivers maybe getting drafted in the first round. It's like this young generation can go and get it. Then the deals they're talking

about for the guys coming up, too. There was a list put together because of the Devonta Smith deal about how the Eagles got out ahead of it. Three-year extension worth $51 million guaranteed, up to $75 million. Congratulations to Bing Batman. Skinny Batman. There it is. That's all me. Bad branding. I apologize. But. Boom. Skinny Batman.

There it is. There it is. Jeez. That's all me. Bad branding. I apologize. But congrats to you getting money. Congrats to Jalen keeping, you know, his top two targets in town for at least a while. Weapons over there.

Now, Shane Steichen, when he leaves, you know, takes the offense to Indianapolis. We have immediate success. Gardner Minshew becomes a pro bowler. We almost make the playoffs. And over there, they won, but then they struggled inevitably. So will Jalen get back to form? We shall see. Keep weapons around is a good thing. Speaking of weapons, ladies and gentlemen,

joining us now, 19-year MLB, six-time All-Star, Cy Young winner, World Series champion. Has over 3,000 career strikeouts. Played for the Guardians. Right. That wasn't their name.

That's on me. That's on me. Brewers and Yankees in high school, stud football player. Ladies and gentlemen, athlete of athlete, friend of the program, CeCe Sabathia. Hey. CeCe. What's up, fellas?

I had to get away from the juju news there for you. I apologize. No, no, no. I was into it. I mean, I was locked in on the juju news. Well, I didn't want to was i was into it like i mean i was locked in on the hell yeah well i didn't want to break you know you're a legend obviously and there was no reason for us to do that so we had a full discussion about a news break we apologize for making you hold let's chit chat about it quickly here this elbow thing okay cc you played football obviously i think you're a multi-sport athlete jet pass and just came on and gave an impassioned speech

about how the youth leagues are kind of ruining kids early. He wrote an entire book on this entire thing. I know you do work with the MLB, and obviously you're an MLB legend in pitcher stud. Like, is this a conversation that's taking place about the youth leagues? And is Jet Passon right about that with these elbow injuries we're kind of seeing right now happen around the MLB to stud pitchers? Yeah, I mean, if you look at the way these guys come into the league,

I mean, they're all coming in with a surgery or two already, you know. And it's because of, you know, they're playing baseball year-round, where, you know, you just mentioned, you know, some of us in this older generation, you know, when it was football season, I was playing football. When it was basketball season, I was playing basketball. And, you know, I also played an other position besides pitching. Like like I was a hitter I played first base I played outfield so it wasn't just pitching from the time I was nine years old until the time I got to the big league so I think you you know with this rash of injuries that you're seeing it has a lot to do with these

guys being pitchers only from the time that they're you know pre-teens until the you know till they get to the big leagues. You only got so many throws in your arm before you're going to have to have surgery. It's an unnatural motion. And the more you do it, the more times you keep doing it over and over, especially at a younger age, you know, it's more likely for you to have surgery. So it's like 100% surgery rate if you're a pitcher that ends up making it to the big leagues?

I mean, yeah, at some point. You know, luckily enough for me, I avoided all major elbow injuries and all of that stuff. But my very last pitch I threw in the big leagues, I tore everything in my shoulder, my capsule, rotator cuff, labrum, bicep, everything. So, like I said, I mean, it's only so many throws you have in your arm before something's going to tear up. It's inevitable. They're putting 100 pitches on 8-year-olds, allegedly. Like I said, I mean, it's only so many throws you have in your arm before something's going to tear up.

It's inevitable. They're putting 100 pitches on 8-year-olds, allegedly. You know, that's a hit. Yeah, there's a counter going inevitably from the beginning of it all. Go ahead, AJ. See, I saw what Kenley Jensen said, that the balls like this, either slippery baseballs and it's hard to control right now and he's having a tough time controlling them. What's going on with the baseballs, and how important is that?

And do you guys, are you able to see like a box of balls and rough them up like quarterbacks are able to NFL game balls? Great question. Yeah, I mean, that's the thing. You know, so the baseballs that we use in the game are mudded up and rubbed up by usually somebody at the stadium. Before, I think, 23, I think it was just up to the teams to mud the baseballs up. So however you wanted to do it, I think in the last year, MLB has got involved and kind of uniformed the way they want the baseballs to look and, you know, kind of a certain way and mud up the balls.

But, yeah, I mean, every baseball is different. You know, we were talking about this today. We had a meeting with the Pirates. And, you know, there'sates. There's literally people in a factory in Costa Rica stitching these baseball together. Everyone's going to be different every time you grab a baseball. That's always been something.

It's just a fact of being able to get a good grip, whether it's rosin or stuff that you're allowed legally to use now to grab a good grip. Every baseball that you pick up as a big leaguer is different. So we got hand-sewn baseballs, but we're about to have robotic umpires. Angel Hernandez, tell me about him.

Tell me about him. I've had some tough times with Angel Hernandez. If it was up to me, I would want full ABS, fully robotic umpires, but just talk to the guys and the players of today's game. They don't want that. They kind of want the human element. They want to be able I feel like they're leaning towards to be able to challenge that pitch right there or challenge that call where you can

tap your helmet, go upstairs, look upstairs and they can review it. It's a quick thing that they use in the minor leagues and I feel like we'll go to that before we go to fully automated robotic umpires. Now obviously we've seen this pitcher right leagues and I feel like we'll go to that before we go to fully you know automated you know robotic umpires now obviously we've seen this pitcher right here he started taking advantage of the strike zone that's the human element that the pitchers are talking about yeah yeah absolutely

and as a pitcher you know if he's calling that out there you just keep throwing it out there you know and see how far he's gonna go um and you know that that's obviously um always been a big problem you know for me um i've always i've always had problems with umpires and obviously with angels so um yeah i would just like to take that out of it but if you talk to the guys today they don't want that they they want you know catchers back there framing pitches and you know being able to still strike there will always be a gripe whenever it's a judgment call in a competitive world. You know, like think about all the fights we see for UFC or boxing where the judges get it wrong.

It's like any time there is judgment taken, let alone every single pitch, it's a human's judgment. That's absurd. From the angle they're standing, too, it's a weird one. And that's what every, I mean, they got a new rule with the obstruction rule at second base, and it's kind of left up to umpire's discretion so you know it's kind of whatever they see you know so when you leave it up there there's like you said there's always gonna be a grind ty's got a question for you yeah cc obviously the season is a grind but

as like a yankees fan and they've had you know one of their best starts uh ever and then teams like the pirates and like the Tigers and Royals and some of these teams who weren't necessarily going to be competitors, people thought, how much do these early season April and May games matter? As a team, can you know, hey, obviously we're not going to make the playoffs based on the early season games like this, but we can also play ourselves into outperforming what you thought was going to happen.

How much stock would teams be taking into a hot start or winning 15 of your first 20 games when you know there's still five or six months left of the season? Pirates. No, I think you always kind of take stock into a hot start, especially those teams that you just named, like the Pirates or Kansas City know, Kansas City or even the Yankees, because, you know, you can't win the division or you can't win the World Series in the first month, but you could definitely lose it if you get off to a bad start and, you know, go five and 20 or something like that for the first month.

So, yeah, I mean, I think, you know, coming out of spring training, everybody just wants to get settled in. And then once you see guys start getting into a groove and you get up to a hot start, you start believing. And, you know, anything can happen during the summertime. And once you get momentum rolling, baseball is one of those things where you're playing it every day and it's all about confidence. So you start winning some of those games early and you start feeling like you're supposed to win some of these series,

yeah, it can turn into a great summer. Okay, so the Pittsburgh Pirates are winning, what is it, the pennant? Yeah. The pennant? The pennant. A super pennant? Dude, we're about to win. We're about to win.

Yeah, we're about to win the fucking pennant, CeCe. That's what we're about to do. You know why? Because we've got the Hundo boys. But with everything that Jeff Passan's talking about, are they going to survive? The Pirates in good spot. This Paul Skeens guy.

Have you got eyes on him in Indianapolis and how he's been doing? Is that going to carry over into the majors, you think? That guy is ridiculous. Yes! What he's throwing is definitely going to carry over to the big leagues. I mean, I thought last year, right out of LSU, after the College Bowl series, bring him to the big leagues. Yes!

Like, let's go. Has that ever happened? Has that ever happened? I don't know. I don't think so. I mean, the kid that's the first baseman for Anaheim last year, he was in college last year and made it to the big leagues last year. Wyatt Lankford was in college last year and made it to the big leagues

at the start of this year. So, I mean, schemes, I don't know if it's going to get any better than it is right now. He throws 102 with a wipeout slider. Good changeup. So, let's get him to the big leagues, man. Start striking out some big league hitters. So, he's an ace, right? That's what everybody would consider him?

Absolutely. So, guys that can throw 100 but can't do it for long periods of time get moved to close. How do you find out if you're a closer or if you're an ace in this entire thing? Because one in 102, I guess with the Pirates, how many would close it is the thing. Yeah, yeah. How do you figure that out? How do you know if you're a closer or an ace?

Well, I think, you know, back in my day, everybody came up as a starter. And they just weeded themselves out. The guys that couldn't, you know, sustain their velocity The guys that couldn't sustain their velocity or guys that couldn't get through the third time through the lineup ended up moving to the bullpens. You think about a guy like Mariano Rivera. He started off as a starter and then ends up in the bullpen. So it's just one of those things where back then they get you into the system

and see if you can handle being a starter. Now they're drafting relievers. You see guys in college that are relievers only. So now it's more down to a science where, you know, these guys come into the league defined already as one thing. And, you know, Skeens is one of those guys that, you know, has been identified as a starter. And a really good one, I think, for for a long time I think he can be. He's a hoss. He's an absolute hoss and a winner. We know that he's

a winner. Connor's got a question for you. CC, obviously today Jackie Robinson Day. Did you ever pitch on Jackie Robinson Day and is it kind of even one of those more heightened days where you see your jersey and you got your normal number but 42 is there and it just kind of gives you that extra juice on that day.

Yeah, Jackie Day was always a good day. And I was even in the league back when, you know, everybody wasn't, you know, mandated to wear the number. So you had to, you know, put a request into the league and they would let you wear 42. And it was always a special day. I always had my best games on Jackie Day. And I just remember 2007, the year I won the Cy Young, I always got off to bad starts. I always pitched bad in April,

and I got a chance to pitch on Jackie Day against the White Sox. I won eight innings and gave up no runs, and it kind of, like, got me off to, you know, winning the Cy Young that year. So that was – it's always been a special day, and I still have the jerseys from, you know, every time I wore 42. I like that you normally don't wake up till about May, June. Mid-May. Like Mother's Day.

Mother's Day is when I usually wake up. We're on Jackie Robinson. Yeah. I got to go put on real quick. And eight innings of being an absolute beast. That's beautiful, CeCe. I'm happy to hear the MLB, you know, celebrate this stuff. You said you had to petition it at one point.

Is this from that day? This must be from that day. Wow. Look at this show. Have a baby, CeeDoo. Wow. Are you reaching, CeCe? Teaching, bitch.

Yeah, I love that. I love everything about that. What's that name on the jersey there that you're wearing? I didn't play for the Guardians. I played for the Indians. Whoa! Jesus. Whoa!

And I'm about a good 330 right there, too. I'm offensive lineman right Guardians. I played for the Indians. Whoa! Jesus. Whoa! And I'm about a good 330 right there, too. I'm offensive lineman right there. Offensive tackle. Hey, I've never seen a thin person be able to hit something far or throw something that fast. Got to have a little ass if you want something to go fast. That's right. Mass equals gas, baby.

There it is. Mass equals gas. Speaking of mass, D-Butt's got a question for you. Speaking of that big frame, you mentioned earlier being a three-sport star in high school. What made you pick baseball and go that route, going straight to the minors, obviously? And then another sport you picked up post-baseball, or at least I've seen post-baseball, golf. How's the golf game right now as well? The golf game is good, man.

I just left Augusta, so I started off last summer at a 17 handicap. I'm down to a 10, so I love golf, golf man i wish i was playing when i was pitching um but that's that's my new sport i mean i i play it every day i'm actually playing in the morning so if there's a nice day out here i'm always on the golf course with a tea time um as far as like baseball you want from a 17 to a 10 in 12 months? 17 to a 10. Putton? Driver got better.

What improved? Driver got a lot better. The driver got a lot. I'm still terrible putting. Still terrible putting. We know where we can grow. So you used to hit a massive slice because you were swinging so baseball-y? Yeah, and now I'm able to, you know, I can play.

It's not a slice anymore. It's a little fade now. So I'm able to, you know, I can play. It's not a slice anymore. It's a little fade now. I'm able to hit some fairways now. A little buttery fade out there. Anyways, of course, you go from a 17 to a 10. Guy's going to be scratched by June. This is bananas. Obviously, that's why you're CeCe Sabathia

and I am not. Now, with that being said, a lot of options. A lot of options, we would assume, with somebody that can put their golf game from 17 to a 10 in 12 months. Think about how athletic you have to be. What a joke. Hey, look how fucking big he is. They're going to make you telephone poles.

All right, anyway, sorry about that. Go ahead. Sorry, I cut you off. No, no, no. I was just saying that I played all three sports in high school, and I had scholarships to play football and basketball. But the situation that I was in, I needed, you know, me and my mom was me and my mom and we needed, you know, money. And I got drafted in the first round. That's literally

decision. Like they made the decision for me. I got drafted in the first round and I knew I could probably get, you know, you know, a million, maybe a million and a half dollars. And, and I still, Chris Winky was in college at the time. So I was like, I can go to play baseball. If this don't work out in the minor leagues, I can always go back to college and play football. So football was always going to be my backup plan. But, yeah, I mean, baseball kind of chose me.

And when I got drafted, I didn't even know if I was playing first base or if I was pitching. I got drafted by the Indians in 1998, and I'm on the phone with the guys, and I'm like, am I hitting or am I pitching? Like, it was just really like a trial.

It was one of those things and I get to the minor leagues and I didn't know how to throw a four-seamer or a two-seamer or any of that stuff. They showed me my delivery. They showed me

how to throw a four-seamer and I go from throwing 92 in high school to 98 in like three months, two months and the rest is kind of history.

It's crazy. Yeah, I mean, I got drafted in the first round to be a pitcher in the majors. Had no idea what a four-team or what. Give me that baseball. Yeah, I'm throwing it. I'm beating that guy, right? Yeah, got it.

How about when you told us that you weren't handing the ball over to anybody but Mariano Rivera? Okay, whoever you got in there, they better be better than me before you want to get this fucking ball out of my hand tonight. That's like that competitive. Man, we're lucky to have you in the sports world, CeCe, legitimately. And CeCe will be a part of the MLB Network's clubhouse game tonight

between the Astros and the Braves. Are they good? These teams stink, or are they good? No, great teams. Plus, CeCe's got special events lined up for MLB's first ever game at Rickwood Field in Birmingham on June 20th between the Giants and Cardinals

in honoring the... Am I allowed to say this? I think so. I'm asking two people. CC, Darius J. Butler. I don't know what the word is. You know what the word is. Starts with an I. No. Oh. Negro Leagues? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What's the other one? Honor and the Negro Leagues. There we go. The Negro Leagues. I don't know. I want to let you know. I don't know. Because I've gone to some places and they've had like sweet hats and like merch. I'm like, would like to buy that. And then I'm like, I don't think.

I don't think. You know, I'm kind of. Every single time I do like, would like to buy that. And then I'm like, I don't think. I don't think. You know, I'm kind of. Every single time I do like, all right, I'm going to go with the plain P. That's what I'm going to do. Anyways, you've got a lot of shit popping off over there at MLB Network, and we're incredibly pumped for you. You're on there all the time or special events games? What do we have going on with them?

Yeah, we do these events called the Clubhouse Game where we kind of sit around and talk about the game, why the game is going on. You know, I'm a huge sports fan, and I watch a lot of sports. And I kind of got this idea like four years ago. I was watching the Super Bowl with Tiki Barber. And getting a chance to just sit next to a football player and have him call out the plays in the context of the game. This is how we watch games as sports fans. Obviously, you guys do the same way.

So it's just letting fans get a peek into how we take in sports or take in the game, and we call it the Clubhouse Edition on MLB Network. Ty, you ever seen it? Yeah, I absolutely love it. It's like one of the best things the MLB Network does. Whoa! Yeah. Hell yeah.

I bought it. Thank you. He's a tough critic. He hates everybody, but he is a Yankee. So he's an Network does. Whoa! Yeah, hell yeah. I bought it. Thank you. He's a top critic. He hates everybody, but he is a Yankee. So, yeah, he's an all-time legend. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, CeCe, we appreciate you, man. We'll continue to follow along,

and thank you for making time out of the golf game. No problem. Of course, anytime y'all want me back, I'm on. Let me know. You got it. And shout out to you going to Rickwood Field in Birmingham on June 20th to honor the... Negro League. Negro League.

Negro League. Boom. Nope. Awful announcing report. Listen to this. What did you guys say? What? Jackie Robinson day.

Listen to this asshole in a tank top. Anyways, we appreciate the hell out of you, ladies and gentlemen. C.C. Sabathia. Thanks, C.C. So,

just, I won't ever have to deal with it again. Nope. I'm good. We don't do a lot of baseball talk. Yeah. But June 20th, we're probably going to have C.C. I was going to say, C.C. might be back on. We have to revisit this. Exactly.

Let the internet decide. That's kind of the game. Put the poll. What do we think? It's just one more. Read. What do we do with it? Put that on Elon.

Probably smart to check. Oh, yeah. It's just one more. Put that on Elon's app. Oh, yeah. There'll be a 92 to 8% on Elon's app. Say it. Just say it. Max is wide open right now. Yes, it is.

Buddy, I saw a guy die. Oh, yeah. Oh, when? The guy got hit by the truck? Stolen truck. Yes. Oh, my God. Crazy.

What the fuck? Yes. I'm just scrolling through and then all of a sudden I see a guy truck gets stolen from he has gun doesn't pull trigger on person that is stealing he did pull a trigger I thought he did four I scrolled past that oh he missed him yeah yeah he he pulled trigger like at least three times I think he shot through the window if I if I listen correctly I he shot at the window there There was blood on door. So all I saw, I didn't see any recoil.

So when I was watching the video, I saw it because the way it was set up was like guy gets truck stolen but fights back with gun and then gets run over. And I'm like, what? Oh, yeah. And then the video is already rolling while I'm reading because that thing is already started. Did you see the before though? He stopped the carjacking and then that guy okay stole his truck so i didn't see the entire before part because i was reading while the video was already playing so by the time i got the video his hand was out and i don't think i saw any recoil then that truck was backing out yep and then hit oh i lost my truck that's his thought and then somebody else who's i think maybe the previous person's car, those maybe get jacked, like sees him coming,

oh, I'm going to jog. Run. This guy got fucking bulldozed. 70 yards, maybe? 60 yards? And then run over? No warning or nothing. I just saw that on my timeline.

It's usually like a graphic. No, no, no. And he definitely was deceived. That's a different time. Because usually, if it made it to the internet, like, I assume, I don't know Reddit well. I'm not smart enough. I don't know these other internet platforms. Once again, I'm not intelligent

enough for it. X is kind of where I've always lived. Twitter, you know, formerly known. If it made it to X or Twitter, normally it wasn't somebody dying. Normally it was like, okay, this person did not die. So you could at least watch and be like, that's tough. And then there'd be like a follow-up like, this person actually ended up with two broken

legs, broken spine, broken neck, but inevitably, it's okay. This one, I scrolled down and I'm like, this guy's dead. I'm like, why am I? This is Sunday. I'm having a Masters of Golf Sunday. What is this? So I had to mute that, why am I? This is Sunday. I'm having a Masters of Golf Sunday. What is this? So I had to mute that account, get that thing out of there. But yeah, it's wild.

And they're like, well, the algorithm shows you things that you look at. It's like, well, obviously, people have been looking at train crashes forever. Doesn't mean we need to see them. You know, like, what are we even? Not on this app. But I'll tell you what, the jokes that are flying, not for that situation, but for literally everything else,

X is swinging a hot bat right now. Yes, they are. That's a good one. Tree memes were great. X is swinging a hot bat right now. Yeah, they're going. You've got to dodge the deaths. Hopefully as the playoffs start in NHL and NBA,

that kind of takes over a little more and we see less people getting their bodies split. I'm muted. There's a new account, though, every day. Exactly. Mutant doesn't do it anymore. It started with the crazy fight clips when Elon took over. That was kind of the beginning.

So as we get out of here on this particular BMF, Jackie Robinson, what do we learn today? We learn Max Holloway's awesome. Yeah. The man. We learned Jet Passion. Jet Passon has passion. Jet Passion wrote a book about

the current problem with elbows. He was fucking deep in it. He's fired up. That was good. Good to see it. A lot of people on the internet saying, like, thank you for addressing this because I assume there's a lot of parents of kids that are watching what these coaches are doing going like hey dipshit this isn't how this whole thing goes but those coaches are telling the parents this is how it goes so then whenever

there's professional athletes and professionals saying no this is not that's a big deal for hopefully the future of baseball is i think what we're all hoping for that was awesome to hear out of jet i'm appreciative of that yeah i mean I guess if you have kids, obviously you're much more privy to that, but if you don't have a kid who's playing youth baseball, because I assume it's changed a bunch since we were playing it when we were younger, because it was kind of just like,

hey, if your arm hurts, you tell your coach and you're not going to throw that day, but it wasn't like, listen, fucking kid, we're in the semifinals. Okay, I know you pitched eight innings yesterday and 140 pitches. I need you to go back out there and do it again. What was it, the Plumber Classic, wasn't it? What was the baseball tournament?

No, I think it was just Plum. It's a Plum tournament. Huge. I can play baseball. We'll go hang out because there were a lot of people that were there. Sure. The finals for that thing, if the Plum team made it. Packed that.

It was like. You're pitching your ace, though. You're pitching your ace. You're not resting. If he won you the game before, I understand that you want to put him back in there. Well, and here's the thing. You would have the Plum tournament that weekend, but you'd also have the Franklin tournament that weekend. And yeah,

there would be people keeping track at one tournament, and they'd keep track at the other tournament, but they're not calling each other and saying, hey, he pitched yesterday. So that doesn't mean your ace can't go back-to-back days in different tournaments. Well, now there's an app. Yeah, I'm sure there is. CeCe came on. That was a great conversation.

He is awesome. I love CeCe. He's too fucking big to go from a 17 to a 10 in 12 months. He'll be scratching nine months. By Tahoe. He said, I suck at putting. It's like, oh, that's the one that you'll be able to athlete at some point. I would imagine he hits it a fucking country mile.

He's got to switch to a mallet putter. I used to have a I would imagine he hits it a fucking country mile. Yeah. He's got to switch to a mallet. I used to have a slight – he probably hits it like AJ. Yeah. Yes. I would assume he's like AJ. He might break AJ's record this year. He probably bombs. On 18.

Well past me. Oh, wait. Did you tell AJ? Not on 18. What's that? Did the Masters change your mind? Oh, yeah. I'm back in on golf.

I don't know about the American Century Championship. I know. The first thing I thought of – yeah, I mean, I told you when you said many, many times, oh, can't do toe, not feet hurt, all that. I said, all right, well, we'll see. Let's just let the spring and summer play out. Yeah. As I was typing this up, I thought of you and everybody else.

I was like, who the fuck was I? True. True, right? Like my entire goal, my entire goal is to go disappear and live somewhere that has multiple golf courses, within a golf cart driveway, and I'm on a beach looking at water. That is the entire goal. Has been the goal forever. And then all of a sudden I go, I hate golf.

I'll never play golf again. It's been the entire goal. That's the entire purpose is everything. Yeah, for sure. But then I watch the Masters of Golf, and I see Scotty Sheffler put that thing within an inch from 89 yards. I'm like, that would be a cool thing. No, I didn't say I could do that.

I play in those. I could do that. Look at the views there. I heard you saying earlier they need to sell the golf courses and promote them. Yes, you are right, but there is only one Augusta. You know that. Yes, and the birds are real. That isn't piped in like everybody's saying. There's only one Augusta. You know that. Yes. And the birds are real. That isn't piped in like everybody's saying. No.

Could you imagine how cool that would feel? That shot right there as you're just standing there watching that thing roll back. Holy shit. My chip is staying in. I missed my inch. All right. Who cares? Wait till I go to 14 at 156 yards. I'm going to put this thing to four inches. That one's cool. I'm going to put one close.

Sidespin. Crazy. Crazy Yeah let me hit that ridge Let me just hit right on that ridge It's that game It's the PGA game Yeah it is It's the exact same I liked hearing the caddies chit chat with golfers A lot more stepping off this week

I think because of the wind Yeah So every time a step off happened Caddy felt obligated to come in Don't know if that's normal or not But we're having a conversation now Because of the step off We're re-aiming at something.

And it was like, it took me back to conversations that me and Vinny Terry had. Now, they were a little bit different, but me and Vinny would always pick, like, conversation about what we're aiming at, how we're doing it. And by we, I mean he. I'm not fucking up. And it was like, it was cool to watch the tag team work. Yeah, yeah. It was cool to watch the tag team work.

Every time I see them kind of do their thing, it's like, that's cool. And then that caddy leading the way through the page so it's got four then you have four matt and that bubba's old guy he has four masters yep holding that flag another one probably different caddy for bubba and scotty like the different personalities can you imagine what is khaled doing right now oh man he's got to be his albums are done he's all over the place they call it albums that's what i'm saying. This is the whole tease. Yeah. That's why you got to start listening to older rappers.

I've been going into the Chameleon Air repertoire. He sent us good morning the other day. He sent me Chameleon Air's good morning the other day. It was like, banger. It's like, yeah, I listened to this like a thousand times back. And you're right. Bingo. You got to go back.

Because if you don't, you don't know what you're listening to. You got to be reminded of what's good. Now, only bangers survive. We've got to remember that from music. Because everybody talks about the current generation of music and every generation about how shitty it is. And then we only remember our generation from all the bangers. There was a lot of shit back then, too.

You should go back through some of the shit. There were some bad songs back in the day. You should take a little voyage through those and then realize that the bangers from our generation, though, are still the only things getting played in all these clubs. Oh, yeah. Did you know that? I've been to one nightclub in maybe four years of my life.

I go in a nightclub, they're playing all our shit. Oh, yeah. It's still the same music. It gets sampled with the kids on TikTok, too. My kids will know 20 years ago a song, like, how do you guys know this? And it's because it gets sampled in different things that they see. It was weird to be in a club. I went right to the corner, to the back corner.

It's like, this is uncomfortable. Let me out of here. They're the worst. I fucking hate them. You don't like having conversations in there? Dude, I used to go in. I mean, we are going in here for one mission and one mission only. Everybody in here is getting shot, and we are having a good time.

I'm not talking to anybody. We are dancing and sweating our dicks off. And then we're going to get out of here and go somewhere else. And then you quickly become like a bar person. It's like, why do you like going to a bar? You still hear the songs. You also hear Humans and With. And now at the bars, you can play your own songs.

You've always been able to hijack. Oh, really? Oh, I thought Touch Tunes was've always been able to hijack. Oh, really? Oh. Oh, I thought touch tunes was a... Well... What's the hijack? You had... Well, your friend Nick Morota, who's a new dad, he used to just hijack those fucking things.

Oh, when they were just doing aux cords? No. You would... Oh, bingo. Yes, yes, yes. I do the same exact thing. Okay. Bingo.

Yeah. Actually, you get... $20 to get ahead of this person? Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. And then if someone skips you you And then you're in a battle I've been in so many battles

We got 20 maybe 25 You want to play this game I'll put $100 In the touch tunes right now And queue up 200 songs If you skip me again Motherfucker We were at a place

That had terrible service It was some bar Some small bar While we were traveling around And on the way out Nick just loaded up the top With just the worst songs Love that

Way out I'm like that So he told me As we were leaving Because I heard a song coming I'm like what the fuck Is that who that. I'm like, that is so... He told me as we were leaving, because I heard a song coming, I'm like, what the fuck? Is that who you were? He goes, that's me.

In the next two hours, well, let's get out of here. I'm like, all right. Thank you for doing what you just did there. They will never forget us, and they definitely don't love that we were ever in there, but I appreciate the move. I appreciate the move. The evolution of that,

which I have done once or twice, is when you find out if your buddies are at a bar with touch tunes, let's say in a different state, you can look up that touch tunes, go to it, and play a song from here. So I played Ramstein in a couple bars in Boston and Long

Island that definitely weren't appreciative of it, and people had to leave. It was awesome. You went back to boston this weekend yes i did awesome great time yeah great to see the family go see the friends anytime you can you know touch the atlantic ocean it's a it's a special special time yeah gumpy was like this sheep or hotel is the best i've ever seen i've never really been out in boston like i only went there younger with like my mom and dad so it was cool to go out in boston it was a good time

boston's like pittsburgh i, whenever you look at it, right? Awesome. Yeah, when I drove into Boston, I thought to myself, that looks like Pittsburgh. Oh, yeah. I think the same thing every time I go to Pittsburgh. Kind of a similar mentality, too, I think, when everybody's out in Boston. Similar housing setups. When we're driving kind of through, when you're going to Plum from the city, from the part

of the city that we were staying in, and there's the whole entire backdrop, but the view of all the houses that are kind of stacked next to each other, and stacked on top of each other, that's exactly how a lot of areas in Massachusetts... You enjoyed it, Gump? Great time.

Shout out, Boston. Walking into Fenway Park is just... Yeah, so in a cathedral or something. Well, living in Victoria, everywhere was so far. We never really went to the U.S. much. So now even going to Philly for WrestleMania, I haven't been to a lot of these places.

It's very cool, man. That's awesome. I'm happy to hear that. You're enjoying the hell out of yourself, hopefully. What the hell is going on with the Seelish Sea? Is that what it's called? Who's that? Seelish Sea? Is that what it's called? Who's that? Seelish Sea?

I missed that. It's a sea over there by Victoria, Washington. Oh, what's going on? I didn't see it. Is that the name of it? Salish? There it is. There it is.

Salish Sea. What happened? 21 feet in shoes have been found severed on the shorelines of the Salish Sea. Holy shit. Yeah. Got the bodies? No bodies, just right foot, right foot. What?

The first three were like right foot, right foot, right foot. And then it was like left foot. 15 in the Canadian portion, or 16 in the Canadian portion, 5 in the United States part of it. It's on the unexplained files on Netflix. Oh, there's a documentary. Yeah, I saw that on there, actually.

Yeah, it's crazy. Did they catch anybody? They didn't catch anybody? I don't know. All the reasoning behind it. It was just weird. It was just a weird, very weird thing. I fell asleep in the middle.

Nice shoes. There's another doctor. Runners. They kept saying runners. A size 12 men's runner, right foot. They identified a couple of the people. Really? Yeah, it was weird.

Wild shit. That unexplained file pretty good yeah there's a new doc that just came out too about a little girl who i believe allegedly murdered her mother uh katherine yes what did kathy do yeah something like that yeah i forget her and her dad too i think and the dad really yeah i just read this i wasn't ready for a murder. I did the same exact thing. I just read it. I don't know what happened specifically in it aside from the fact that the girl is killing her parents. Yeah, me neither. Well, it's

either that or a wife killing husband. So, you know, that's all that's fun. My wife will be like, let's watch this. Turns it on. It's just wife brutally murdering the husband. Yeah, I'd rather my wife kill me than my daughter though. Is. Yeah, I'd rather my wife kill me than my daughter, though. Is everything okay? I'd rather my wife kill me than my daughter.

Yeah, you're right. Amen. Because one would be like, oh, that happens all the time. The other one would be like, oh, what did I do to her? Yeah, this is very specific. Yeah. Daughter kills you. There are a lot more questions.

It would be nice not to get murdered. Yeah. That'd be cool. Yeah. I think about that a lot. Well, we live in a great era for not being murdered. Because back then, not to get murdered. Yeah. That'd be cool. Yeah. I think about that a lot. Well, we live in a great era for not being murdered. Because back then, everybody was getting murdered. Way back.

They could just go to the next town. Yeah. Nobody would know. Let alone like the cowboy days. You get shot in the head by some guy, just a drifter. Just looking at him, bro. And that's it. Horse and buggy days.

Think about that one. Oh, man. Oh, he settled. Where? Right where I killed him. Jeez. What? Whatgy days? Think about that one. Oh, man. Oh, he settled. Where? Right where I killed him. Jeez. What?

What was that? Four weeks ago? Yeah. Four or five weeks. That was family. You tell me. There was an eclipse. The sun disappeared. Guy's dead.

Shot him in the head. People didn't even care. We're lucky to be alive. Let's continue to enjoy it. Let's enjoy every single day. We'll be back tomorrow with a better show. Remember, Charles Barkley's on tomorrow. Brock Purdy's on tomorrow. And Neil Ship show. Remember, Charles Barkley's on tomorrow. Brock Purdy's on tomorrow.

And Neil Shipley is on tomorrow. Wednesday, Kaitlyn Clark's on the program. If she gets drafted to the Indiana Fever tonight, don't want to do any tampering. Come on! Had to delete a tweet last week whenever we announced she was coming on the show because we might have been tampering. Oh, okay. Of course.

What? Please make the right decision. Buddy, listen, East humans. I don't know how to deal with them. Get a message. I don't want to respond. Are you the dumbest? Can't. Can't. Gotta be respectful. God, I hope the fever picker. Let's see how accurate the mock draft

is to the actual. Yeah. Mel Kiper and Field Yates. What's the odds in the sports book for every goal? There is not a number one, no. Angel Reese? Going eighth, I believe? No. Somewhere around there.

I saw Legler had her dropping on his big board. Who did? Tim Legs? I think he did. Number eight to the sky. They got Angel Reese and Cardoso going to the sky. Jeez Louise. That's going to be a powerful team. That team's going to the sky. Jeez Louise.

That's going to be a powerful team. That team's going to be underneath scrapping. Yeah, exactly. Underneath. Guess where the big buckets are? Where? Outside, baby. They're worth more out there.

Yes, they are. Yeah, especially at the logo. I think they're putting a four-pointer in because the big threes offer. We'll cover that tomorrow. All right. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. I'm off to Montreal.

Oui, oui. That should be a great spot. That's why PK loves that place, right? friend something nice. It might change their life. I'm off to Montreal. Oui, oui. That should be a great spot. PK loves that place, right? PK loves Montreal. I'll see a lot of it, too. All these cities I go to, I see a lot of them. It's a lot of fun. Everybody has a blast, I hear. It's great. Alright, anyways, can't wait to get to Montreal.

Bonjour, ça va. Ça va bien. Et tout. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye!