The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 111 - A Beautiful Week 4 NFL Recap.. & We Dive Into A Million Dollar Listing Life In NYC With Ryan Serhant

Episode Date: October 1, 2019

On today’s show, Pat is live from 1 World Trade Center in New York City and is joined by real estate mogul and star of “Million Dollar Listing,” Ryan Serhant. They discuss what it’s like controlling almost all of the real estate in New York, what the most expensive piece of property that he’s currently trying to sell, who his typical clientele is, what he did before becoming a real estate broker, and he tries to find Pat a nice piece of real estate in NYC (1:45-35:02). Pat also gives a full recap of week 4 in the NFL and is joined by one of the cohosts of Good Morning Football, Kyle Brandt. They cover Baker Mayfield and the Browns getting a big win in Baltimore and being all the way back, Danny Dimes likeness to William Wallace/whether or not the Redskins are the worst team in the NFL, Tom Brady playing his worst possible game and still finding a win against the Josh Allen led Bills, what it's like being in the NFL substance of abuse program, Vontaze Burfict being suspended for the season and whether he’ll ever play again, the current quarterback controversy in Chicago, and why Jerry Jones is finally going to start negotiating with Dak Prescott (Kyle Brandt - 41:52-1:03:14). Today’s a fun one, come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Ryan Serhant. Ryan Serhant. He's on Million Dollar Listing. The guy sells a billion dollars worth of real estate in New York yearly, from what I'm being told. I've yet to talk to him yet, but this is what I'm just being told on the internet. Big time Giants fan. Was once a hand model. It's going to be an interesting conversation.

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happening in the nfl world you're going to want to stick around and hear that and to be honest ty and i just hit the hell out of a bunch of vitamins who knows what's going to come out from this conversation with this guy ladies and gentlemen here we go ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a man that has more success in his fingertip than we've ever experienced we're overlooking the entire city of New York. I think he's sold every single building that is currently on the market here. A man for a million-dollar listing and sell it with Sir Hant. He was once a soap opera actor, then a hand model.

Now he decides to sell real estate. Ladies and gentlemen, Ryan Sir Hant. Wow. Thanks. What a good intro. That feels good. It's real, too. I did my research. I didn't just read your Wikipedia. I did some real research there.

Yeah, I think all that's in the Wikipedia, but that's great. It is. I just read the Wikipedia yesterday, but I am a fan of Million Dollar Listings, so I was excited for the chance to talk to you. Thanks. Do you do a lot of this? You do? Yeah, yeah, here and there. Mostly never anything like this. Mostly just sales podcasts and business podcasts and entrepreneurial, you know, getting into the market. How do I start business podcasts? Things like that.

Yeah. We saw that you love the Gary Vee. The Gary Vee. He was one of like the first ones that we did a long, long time ago. So do you wake up just every day ready to just kick the day's ass? Kind of. You have to, man. In the sales world, it's like there's no boss, right?

And there's no salary. There's no benefits. So you either wake up ready to kick ass or you don't. And you don't have to. That's the beauty of it. And I tell people that all the time. Agents that work for me and agents I meet all the time, I'm like, don't be stressed out. You can just stay at home and suck if you want.

Or you could go become something. But it's not a big deal. Don't complain. Life is great. It's 2019. You can just do nothing. There's kids that play video games that make money. Just do that.

That kid, Zito, that you heard in your headphones? Yeah, that Zito? Yeah, he makes like six, seven bucks an hour playing video games. Really? Yeah, yeah, he does on our Twitch stream, twitch.tv forward slash the batmagv show. Let's talk about potentially doing nothing, because I think you were almost at that stage of life whenever you were trying to find your way. I mentioned it, you're

a soap opera actor. Was that the goal, to be an actor all your life? It was. It was the only thing I was ever kind of good at. I played every sport. I played baseball. I played football. One year in each sport, my parents made me. They made me try every single sport just to make sure that – Is this like as a child or high school?

Yeah, as a kid growing up and through high school until I graduated high school. After high school, I didn't have to play sports anymore, but I had to play a sport every single year, and I played every single one known to man, and I was terrible at all of them. My dad pulled me off right field playing baseball. That was a brutal moment for me in fifth grade. Never forget. I was center. That was a brutal moment for me in fifth grade. Never forget. I was center.

I played center for a year in football. That was also terrible. Lacrosse, tennis, badminton, squash, competitive swimming, basketball was a tough one for me. All of them. So you sucked at everything athletically. Yeah, I was good at being an athlete, just not good at directing it with a tool or a ball. A skill set. Yeah, exactly. Got it. A skill set. So when did you decide, you know what, I'm going to be an actor?

And where are you from? I probably should have known that. I was born in Houston, Texas. Grew up outside Boston. We bounced around a little bit. Went to college in upstate New York. Oh, okay. grew up outside Boston we bounced around a little bit went to college in upstate New York oh okay from when I was a little kid

like the only thing I actually liked doing was performing and you know I would make my little brother do little movies with me

and my mom would film them and like that's what I wanted to do and I would do theater and I was only allowed to do one play a year that was it

my parents were very big into being well-rounded which I hated at the time now I'm super thankful yeah absolutely especially now that people are being driven you're only people are being driven, you're only allowed to play one sport. You're only allowed to play with this. You're only allowed to do one thing. I think it's handicapping everybody right now. Yeah, no. So it was beneficial at the time, no matter how embarrassing it was as a little kid. But I liked theater and I was good at that.

And those were my kind of close kind of peer groups. And then when I went to college, I wasn't allowed to major in theater, but I could like double major so i did english lit and theater because my dad wasn't going to pay for college if i was just going to go and do theater so that was a rule so let's add an english lit thing in there english lit it was tough i mean i went to a school called hamilton and english lit so it's a writing intensive school but i also had to take a core curriculum and these schools don't was that because of. Was that because of Alexander Hamilton? Yes, yes. Really?

Yeah, he started a college a long, long time ago. By the way, Aaron Burr, big asshole. Yeah, that guy, totally terrible. You know. Yeah, great musical. I did some research, yeah. It was about three hours worth of research or so. Aaron Burr, bad guy.

Bad guy. Hamilton, though, can fucking sing, bro. Yeah, he could. He did. Yeah. And a guy from Franceance he could rap so good george washington he was great they were really really good uh so you get into acting broadway the whole thing off no i never made it to broadway

otherwise i would still be doing that it was off off off off broadway i did stuff for free like you do yeah new york city was free theater and free student films. I'd be like the delivery guy that got hit by a car, and I played a clock. Nice. Yeah. You played a clock. Yeah, and underground basement theaters in Union Square that were super sketchy. Just stuff like that.

And then I ran out of money. I had money saved up from working in construction when I was in high school and college. Ran out of money, and it was either go home to Colorado. My parents had moved at that point to a ranch in Colorado. And I was going to paint fence until the day I died or figure out how to stay in New York City. And I didn't want to wait tables or bartend. And I had a friend of mine in the summer of 2008 who said, listen, just get your real estate license. It's the greatest thing in the history of the world. Post ads on Craigslist. People will buy apartments from you and then go do whatever you want with the rest of your month.

And that was the goal. And then I started the day Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy and it didn't work out that way. Wow. So you just, Craigslist is where you started listing things at. Excuse me, my name is Ryan. I suck at every sport. I have great hands though.

I was- Oh yeah, the hand modeling thing was real. I made more money from hand modeling than I did from acting ever. Was it like a webcam situation where you just put your hands out there? No, no, no. That's ridiculous. No. I held phones for AT&T and for Nespresso.

Do you have to try out for that? Yeah, I went to auditions. My parents made me play every musical instrument, too, by the way. I had these long piano fingers, me play every musical instrument too, by the way. So like I have these like long piano fingers. And so I would hold, uh, I'd hold phones and espresso capsules and do all that. And they pay me like 1500 bucks a day. Are you interested in making $0? Are you interested in making 1500 to $5,000 a day?

You're on a casting couch for the hand models. That's absolutely insanity. Yeah. And you decided, no, I don't want it. I don't feel fulfillment out of modeling these hands. Yeah, not enough fulfillment. How many gigs were you getting on average doing that? Honestly, I didn't have a job, right?

So I was still trying to act. That was my thing. And I was doing this real estate thing kind of in the end of 2008 and 2009 on the side, right? It was kind of just like- Craigslist. Yeah, I'll rent an apartment. So Craigslist, you'd post ad for rental apartments. New York City has 70,000 rental apartments at any given time. So I would meet people on the corner at a Starbucks and I'd take them around to 10 apartments and hopefully

they'd take one. And if they rented an apartment for 2000 bucks, commission would be 2000 bucks and I'd split it 50-50 with the house, right? The brokerage firm. And I just made $1,000 in one day. So I do that. Plus I would do hand modeling for $1,500 a day or $150 an hour, depending. And so I'd do a couple of hand modeling jobs a month. Were you taking care of your hands, like putting in candle wax and stuff? Luberderm, the gloves, they're real. I'd wear those. The cuticles, can't have them.

No work. I need to pay rent. It's real. So resourceful, by the way. Yeah. You realize you've got these handsome, long-ass fingers. Let's go ahead and sell some Nespresso. We can work Craigslist.

Let's go down to Starbucks. We'll get somebody to buy our thing. And now you have a legit real estate empire. Yeah. How many years ago was that? You're only 35 years old, by the way. It was 11 years ago. So I started in the end of 2008.

So literally, this month was my 11-year anniversary. Hey, happy birthday, man. Thanks. Hey, happy birthday, man. Thanks. Hey, happy birthday, man. Thank you. Honestly, 11 years. That's an incredible run. There's a lot of shit to do out here.

We were taking pictures of all these buildings. We said, what do all these people do? Yeah. And I have no idea what they do, but I do have a sense that you have sold them their property, at least at a pretty good rate here. You're like a billion dollars a year worth of property that's an insane stat i want to let you know that yeah so we're selling a bunch to see that black building right there with the curved windows that's under construction so that's 130 william we're selling a bunch over there if you looked out to your right we sold that

whole building 99 john street it's hard i'd have to come over on around you um selling that selling another building right over there 101 wall street I started actually in the financial district and sold most of this stuff. See that fucking building right there? I know every son of a bitch that lives in there. I sold that whole thing. That's incredible. Way easier than modeling hands, by the way. Yeah, just Craigslist.

I thought Craigslist was for other things. I had no idea people were selling apartments on there. They sell apartments. Well, not anymore. This is 11 years ago. I don't think people use Craigslist for real estate anymore. Do you use social media? You do use apartments on there. They sell apartments. Well, not anymore. This is 11 years ago. I don't think people use Craigslist for real estate anymore. Do you use social media? You do use social media now. Very much so.

That's like a weapon for you. Yeah, you use it. Yeah, we meet most of our buyers and sellers now because I think like most people go to Instagram or Facebook to research the people they meet before they go to Google or their website. So I put all this money into ryansurhant.com so that when I meet new people or new clients, they'll go there. But really all they're doing is looking at me on Instagram

and saying, oh, he's real or, oh, he's not real. Or your Wikipedia. Or my Wikipedia, yeah. That's where all the data is. Some people might've done. I scrolled through your Instagram as well. The ranch your parents moved to is beautiful. Yeah.

And you have a weekly vlog of your life. Yeah, on YouTube on Wednesdays. Hey, YouTube's where his cash at. Now granted, your cash happens to weekly vlog of your life. Yeah YouTube on Wednesdays. Hey YouTube's where's cash yet? No, great. Yeah happens being these four buildings, but YouTube is a great place to be at we're becoming youtubers Yeah, good ring the bell. Yeah, exactly the subscribe ring the bell. I think it's over here Will you tell them to ring the bell ring the bell hit the subscribe button and it ring the bell so you get the notifications It's really important Thank you. I've never said that but I'm happy you said it on my show so i don't have to say it good

you know what i mean it's real so we do that too so we do the youtube and that's that's good for hitting everybody that doesn't have cable so for us people see me on million dollar listing on thursday nights on bravo and then how much of that's bullshit uh you don't have to tell me because you probably have to sign something but should i just expect that your life is filled with drama 24-7 and then we have a happy ending and sell the house? Yeah, kind of. To be honest, unfortunately for me, the show takes a year to film,

and every listing that they film is big and really hard to sell. So they're all full of terrible drama. Most of the drama doesn't even make it to TV because they're not with me every day. So when I watch it, people are like, oh, man, that was so tough make it to TV because they're not with me every day. Yeah. Right? So, like, when I watch it, people are like, oh, man, that was so tough. I'm like, dude, that was the easy day. Like, you should – they don't film us getting sued. They don't film this happening, that happening.

They don't film all the screaming, yelling, and physical abuse. Before we get to you getting beat up or the lawsuits, what's the biggest deal you've brokered? Oh, man. Like I said, I sell entire buildings. This building over here. This particular fucking skyscraper

right over here. I don't know. What's the most expensive thing I sold this year? We just sold a house on the ocean in Bridgehampton for $40 million. Who's buying that? Just finance. Finance. Guys in finance.

Guys in finance. Like guys in Wall Street over there? Over there. Yeah, Wall Street. It's Wall Street. Private equity. Tech. There's a lot of people who have money that you wouldn't even imagine.

Like they have jobs. So how do you meet them? I didn't know you made money from that. How do you meet them? Because that's probably a big part of it is you meeting them. A million-dollar listing helps? Yeah. Honestly, yeah, a million-dollar listing helps. I'll meet them through that. People email me, my website,

the vlog, social media, lots through social media. And honestly, the way you meet a lot of these people now, and the reason I started the vlog two years ago, and I do a lot of these different things that aren't just a show is I meet them through their kids. So like we just sold a house for $13 million because the 12 year old daughter took the video and showed it to her mom on YouTube. And the mom said, okay, I'll go look at that area. I didn't even want to be in Chelsea. So she came through and she bought it. There's no other buyers for that house. So there's a lot of different ways that we meet clients now. But a lot of it starts with social because social is, everyone's on it anyway, right? So that's kind of like your biography. If you don't have a good

social profile and you're trying to sell something, people think you're full of shit. So it's got to be there. So people are coming to you. You're not really seeking out clients anymore. We do both. I've got people in biz dev as well who are going after, you know, sellers who tried to sell on their own developers who don't know me yet. I want to meet all those people. So it's a 50, 50 going after projects and sellers and buyers, and then 50% of people coming in. Okay. So there's a lot of other people in this million dollar listing with great personalities and there's other people that sell in. Okay, so there's a lot of other people in this million-dollar listing with great personalities and there's other people that sell in New York, obviously.

It's an incredible market. What is the sell for SirHant? What is the sell? Like, hey, fair prices. Hey, I know where all the good shit is. Hey, how's it going? I'm a good guy. I dress well.

I drink chocolate milk. What is the... This is a protein shake. It's part of my meal plan. I get my food delivered to me every day. I need that, dude. I'm going to be 400 pounds by the end of this fall. We're traveling a lot and pizza is very available.

It's super easy. It is. Yeah, so there's a company, not to go off your question, but there's a company in Brooklyn that I found called Food Matters. And I think I've been using them now for three years. And it's all like calculated perfectly. You get a bag, it's fresh. They cook it like that night.

It's not bullshit. It's not frozen, you know, like those other delivery services. And it gets delivered to your door and it's like whatever you want to eat, but it's super healthy and weighed out for you. It's all perfect based on your workout plan, everything. And then that's it. Then you don't have to think about food for the rest of the day. You don't have to think about breakfast, dinner, snacks.

Like, you know, you eat that and you will be good. Oh, my God. That'd be so nice. You don't have to think about it. For me, I have that, so I don't have to think about it because I'm in the back of a car all day in like my little mobile office. Do you get carsick around here, yeah? No. Oh my God, I gotta walk everywhere

or take the scoot scoots. No. I get carsick down here. No, no, no. Yeah, it's terrible. Last night we sat outside of Lincoln Tunnel for an hour and 25 minutes. Yeah, terrible. Sunday night for no reason. We interrupt this incredible conversation that we have yet to record, so I have no idea how it's going,

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here on the sports gambling world. You were trying to go to New Jersey though? No, we landed in Teterboro. So you have a mobile office like Air Force One that you travel around New York City? No, just the back of the Escalade is my mobile office. Oh. Because I'm in between appointments all day, different buildings, different listings, Brooklyn, Long Island City, back to the city here, over to New Jersey, back to Brooklyn.

I'm just on the road all day long. What's your sell for, Sirhan? What's my sell? Yeah. We have the largest exposure. So for anything you want to sell, I can get more eyeballs on it than anybody else. And anything you want to buy, I know everything that's out there more so than you will and more so than any other agent. What's the most expensive thing that's currently on the market in New York City right now? Right now? Let's say there was a group of dudes that live in Indianapolis. One of them's engaged.

They're building a company you work for is building a suite in one world trade, a studio in one world trade. Is that you? Yep. And let's say the budget was never ending. Okay. Whatever you would like it to be. Sure. But there has to be, there's 10 people that are living in this place. So it has to be obviously large. Don't like to live outside the city blocks here because I get car sick, don't like traveling. So it has to be something in here. Is there something on the market for us? There's always something on, there's more stuff on the market than you could possibly imagine. It's New York City. Is there a place where I can put a basketball court in? Yeah, sure. Yeah, of course. How much would that run me, you think, if I wanted a place that had a basketball

court in it? You'd probably then want to buy a condo in a building that already has a basketball court, right? So you don't have to build your own. Because if you're going to build your own, you'd have to put it on your rooftop, right? Or your backyard or in your basement of your townhouse. Which if you want to be in walking distance to One World Trade, it means that you're probably going to have to buy a townhouse within Tribeca. And a townhouse in Tribeca will cost you between $10 and $30 million. Perfect.

Yeah. Let's write that one up. Just $30 million? That's what you need? Max, though. Max. I said $10 to $30. Yeah, but we want to go on that top end.

I mean, we're not going to go cheap in that. If you're spending $15 million, you might as well be spending $30 million. Yeah. Why get one if you can get two for double the price? Honestly. You should get two houses. Put them right next to each other. One for you, one for, what's his name?

Zito. Zito. Zito. Yeah. Yeah. We're not putting him anywhere near us. He's in New Jersey. Come on.

Yep. New Jersey Z. He's Cigar Z right now. He's walking around with a cigar everywhere. He had to get the cigar checked on his way into world trade. Gotcha. I mean, it's an unbelievable situation. Yeah.

So you're saying $30 million, no problem. Here we go. Or two for $15, two dogs, one bun. it's an unbelievable situation yeah so you're saying 30 million no problem here we go or two for 15 two dogs one bun think about it yeah what you're saying yep yeah we can do that yeah big sports go to 57th street and you can get you know uh like the top four floors of 111 west 57th street probably cost you like 150 200 million now who's gonna buy that who the fuck does fuck has that money to buy $150, $200 million worth of stuff? Is that just another builder? No, no. There would never be a builder. Ken Griffin just paid $250 million for his apartment on Central Park South.

Baseball player? No, no. Not that one. The private equity guy. He's finance. A lot of hedge funds. Finance. We need to get into this game, Ty.

This is what we need to get into. See, I don't know why. I was always under the impression, and maybe it's because of the TV show, that you deal with a lot of celebrity clients, but it's not necessarily. That's not the case at all. We deal with some celebrity clients. Anybody miserable to deal with? Prominent athletes would want to come find you.

Most athletes don't live in New York City, right? Athletes, no. A lot of them, they live in Brooklyn or't live in New York City, right? If they, like, yeah, the athletes know a lot of them, like, well, they live in Brooklyn or they live in New Jersey because they want houses, right? Most athletes aren't like, you know what I want? A tight three bed. Like, most of them want, like, actual houses. So they'll live outside New York City. But a lot of our celebrity clients, you're dealing with them a little bit, but then you're dealing with their business managers and their attorneys and kind of the whole gaggle. Zito.

Yeah. You're dealing with the Zitos. Yeah, you're dealing with Zitos. Other than that, the people you want are the foreign money coming into the city. Yes, there's a lot of that, I think, right? There used to be more, but yes, there still is always. There's very wealthy people in the world. There's incredibly wealthy people.

And it's good for you. How does the business work for you? You just get a piece of every pie that gets sold? In the entire city? No, that would be great. No, but for you. Oh, sure. Yeah, any building that sells, you get a piece.

No, but anything you sell. Yeah, anything I sell or anything my team sells, I have 60 agents underneath me. We take a commission from the sale, and then that gets divvied up depending on the type of deal, depending on how many agents worked on it, et cetera. God, good for you, man. You a football fan? You like the Giants? I grew up outside Boston, so I appreciate the Giants.

I like the new guy. I like Danny Jones. He seemed good. Yeah. He keeps New York happy. I think all the Giants fans are excited. For a second. But New York fans are so, like, they boo the guy, and they're like, we hate you at Yankee

Stadium. He throws one pass, and the guy catches it, and they're like we hate you at yankee stadium he throws one pass and the guy catches it and they're like we love you that's new yorkers that's what i have to deal with all day long i hate this apartment i'm like okay well you know it does have a view and they're like i fucking love this apartment it's terrible like this is why this is why you people are scary they're new yorkers are crazy, but I grew up outside Boston, so I grew up watching the Patriots from Bledsoe all the way through today. The Red Sox and that. Those are my formative years.

Pretty successful little run you've been on there sports-wise. Not me. Those guys. How can people keep up with you on the internet? Everywhere. I think you should follow him because the post of the shit he's selling is beautiful. It's like I'm watching Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous

whenever I see some of the stuff he posts. Yeah, we get to sell some really, really cool homes and buildings all over the country, mostly in New York. Oh, you sell nationwide? By coastal, right? Yeah, by coastal. Los Angeles, we do a little bit. Texas, Chicago, Boston, Miami. Wow, look at this little empire you're building.

Yeah, it's little. No, no, no. The goal is to be bigger. So we'll see. What is the goal? End game. Sell all the things. All of the things.

All of the things. That's the goal. That's the goal, to sell all the things. All of the things. Yeah. There's never a day where you wake up and you're like, you know what? Tired of selling stuff. Not really.

That's what makes selling so great, that there's no salary, there's no benefits, there's no hourly wages. I either am successful today and I'll make a commission on it or I'm not and I make no money. So it's really up to me, right? And it's up to me to go out there and try to find more business or to not go find it, which for a lot of people is hard. Like the percentage of real estate agents that get into the business nationwide that then quit in the first year is like 86%. Because most of them just want to be told what to do. They want to go to a job. They want to be told what to do. They want to go home. They want to watch Netflix, have their weekends, go back to work and complain about it. Right. But it's like, for me, it was that would, that is, that is just awful. I don't know.

It's kind of life right there. I think you just kind of wrote. Yeah. Yeah, I think what you just said. Most people like it, though. It is interesting. Yeah, most people like that. Most people are creatures of habit, and it's safe. It's very safe. I have numerous friends that I've asked to come join us and work with us, and they say no. And I'm always like, why are these people saying no?

We are having much more fun than they are. Our finances are much better than what they're doing right now. But I guess for the next five to 10 years, it's not certain what we're going to be in their job. It's 100% safe. Here we go. Yeah. Assuming they don't get fired. But yeah. Well, in a lot of jobs, you can't get fired these days. True. It's hard. It's scary to fire people. But we'll see what happens. I don't know. But I like sales and I like selling real estate. Are you a savage? Are you a savage boss? It sounds like you're a savage boss. I don't think I'm savage.

I think I'm very fair. Stern, but fair. I want people to do well and succeed. Because of the show and everything, has it turned into like a Stratton-Oakmont situation where you got all these young pups trying to come in and do that type of shit in the boardroom? Do you give speeches to the team?

Sometimes. I don't hum or sing or do anything. trying to come in and do that type of shit in the boardroom. Do you give speeches to the team? Sometimes. Yeah. I don't hum or sing or do anything. Yeah. Okay. Let's say me and Ty are two young real estate people in New York. We're hungry, man. Yeah.

We left our families back west. Yeah. I don't hire you guys. I wouldn't. No brand new people. I would hire you guys. But brand new people, it's not good business for me because I don't run a brokerage. I run a sales team.

So my sales team has to be very experienced in the business for years and years and years because they're going to go into rooms representing me. And if I send someone, even if they're hungry and awesome, if they're absolutely brand new, then every single one of my clients says, oh, so Ryan was too busy for me. He sent the brand new kid. It's just protecting the reputation that i built for 10 years so that happened with me with the uh indianapolis colts uh training staff when i had my first surgery they gave me a ga trainer to do my rehab yeah and i held that against the uh the physical therapist of the team for my entire career i was like oh my knee didn't even fucking matter enough he gave me a graduate assistant to do the knee instead of you you were too busy with oh, Peyton Manning's neck.

Oh, isn't that just so convenient? And I held that over their head forever. I could see how your clients would be like, oh, yeah, Ryan, you won't even show up at the fucking thing, but you sent me this young kid from Iowa who's hungry. Yeah, this is great. It's hard. It's hard. Because you're dealing with people who are used to everything happening on a very – Always.

Yeah. And when they hire me, they want me, right. And so that's why I work seven days a week because I got to be there for all my clients. Or I don't have to. That's the other thing. I don't complain about it. I think it's great. And one day, maybe that won't be the case. You have a family. We just had a baby. Yeah, one baby. Congratulations. Thank you. How do you balance? Triple H told me this. He said the work-life balance isn't a real thing. Yeah, no. It's not a real thing. If you

actually want to be successful, it's not a real thing. You just kind of have to dive into whatever you're doing right now and just focus on this until the next thing. Is that accurate? Yeah. I don't really focus on work-life balance. I focus on working as hard as I possibly can. And my wife, she believes in it as well. And so there's good synergy between the two of us. She wants us to work. She wants everything to be awesome. And so there's good synergy between the two of us. Like she wants us to work. She wants everything to be awesome. And she knows what makes me happy too, right? Like she, and so it works well.

That partnership has to be good. The people that complain about work-life balance don't have good partnerships. That's like another side that's then complaining at you. Like, why are you in the office all the time? Why are you doing this? Why don't you spend more time with your family? I have my baby seven months old. She hasn't complained to me once.

The baby or? The baby. That's a good partnership between you and the baby. Yeah, we have a – my baby is seven months old. She hasn't complained to me once. The baby or – The baby. That's a good partnership between you and the baby there. Yeah, we have a good deal. I talk to her in the mornings. By the time I get home, she's sleeping, you know, like we hang out on the weekends. And she's like, go to work. Why are you here?

I don't need you here. Why are you in my space? Oh, I appreciate that, man. Yeah, thanks for having me. Ryan, thank you so much for the time. Hey, a lot of wristbands on there. Yeah. People have given them to me over the years.

They're mostly Pura Vida bracelets. They don't fall off no matter what you do. You'd have to cut them off. But a lot of people watch Million Dollar Listing a lot more than you'd ever imagine. A lot of people have watched it while they're sick. So this woman, her mom died from breast cancer and during chemo, watched it, and she sent me this bracelet. This guy's dad died from prostate cancer, so he sent it. And they like watching the show because it's visually exciting to watch and the personalities.

And they followed us for years and years. It's been eight years now. And now you can't ever take those off. No, and they don't. I literally have to cut them off. I saved a rhino in Africa. That's what this one is for. Let's go.

Let's talk about that. You've been to Africa? Me too. I rode a camel in the desert. I saved a rhino in Africa. That's what this one is for. Let's talk about that. You've been to Africa? Me too. I rode a camel in the desert. You saved a rhino. Two different experiences. We're the same people. We're the same person. Is that a Rolex here? You got a little Rolex on? No, it's an Audemars. Is it really? Yeah. No, I don't

wear fake watches. I don't know what they are. Oh, yeah. No, it's an Audemars. It's a nice light watch. I can't wear Rolexes. I'm in the service industry. I don't know what they are. Oh, yeah. No, it's an Audemars. It's a nice light watch. I can't wear Rolexes. I'm in the service industry. I can't walk into meetings with clients and, like, be fancier than they are. That's not good business. Oh, so they don't like when you set your nuts on the table in front of them?

Yeah, no, I can't do that. No. Ty does it everywhere. Look, Ty does it everywhere here. Yeah. That's what Ty does. Zito. Zito does not do it.

Zito can't do it. Zito can't do it. I confirm. No nuts on table. We appreciate the hell out of you, Ryan. Do you live here? Do you guys live in the city? No. No, we travel in every Sunday.

Ah, gotcha. We hit that Lincoln Tunnel traffic last night like Noah. I mean, it was... Where are you based, though? We're here. No, but where do you travel from? Oh, Indianapolis. Got it, got it, got it.

So you're still there. I bought a house like 15,000 square feet for $850,000 cash. Nice. I could get you a nice studio in Long Island City facing the train for $850,000. 600 square feet. I'll get you one with an alcove

for like a twin bed. Isn't it insane to think about that, though? Everybody I have been doing a lot of work with a lot of different companies, and they're always like, why don't you come move out to New York? It would be a lot easier. Why don't you come move

to Florida? It would be a lot easier. LA, we can make this a lot easier. I'm like, let me check out the housing market real quick and I look at it

and I'm like, my house is so nice. It's in Indianapolis. I don't know what you want. You want me to come live in one of those closets you guys have out here? There's no way I can do that.

That's why I love Indianapolis to be honest with you. It's one I love Indianapolis, to be honest. It's one of the main reasons why I like it. Yeah, it works really well. It works really, really well. New York is an expensive place to live. It is. You got people living in fucking shoeboxes, literally shoeboxes down here.

Some of the most educated humans on earth. They go to school for 16 years to get here, and then they live in a 150-square-foot apartment that their bed folds up onto the wall, and they can see their roommates fornicating with everybody they want to fornicate with. American dream. Right there. Go America. Right there. It's amazing. You are the American dream.

No, I don't think so. Yeah, you are. You are. You completely sucked at sports. Just completely sucked, but you kept trying, so you built up some grit. Yep. Then acting didn't work out for you for whatever reason. It takes a lot of opportunity to arise. Sure. Hand model was your thing, but you didn't feel fulfillment. So you went ahead and

moved along. And now you built this billion dollar empire that has to feel pretty, that is legitimately the American dream, I think. Yeah, I guess so. I, listen, I, I like the United States and New York city specifically because you have the freedom to do whatever you want to be successful, right? As long as you're good to people and you work really, really hard, like this country and this city will give back to you. You know, it's pretty awesome that way. Like I only sell what I sell because it happens to exist. Like I don't build any of this stuff.

I get paid big commissions on big properties because New York City allowed that property to be built. And because the people who are buying that were fortunate enough to make that kind of money. And it's a trickle down from there. So I'm very, very fortunate and very humbled by being able to be a worker, be every single day in New York City and in the United States. We're very, very, very fortunate. I've got a lot of clients who live all over the world where, like, at the snap of a finger, the government can just come and take your house from you.

No questions asked. Like, sorry, we're taking this back. Right? Like, as long as you pay your bills in this country, that doesn't happen. It doesn't happen. It's never happened. Are you into politics? No, not yet.

I just like – These are just the things I think about when I think about selling real estate. I don't know. This is when you're sitting in the back of that car for four hours sitting in traffic. In traffic. Yeah, probably behind you. Where is this guy going? So you're going to get into politics one day. That's awesome.

No, I don't think so. Yeah, you just became the age where you're allowed to run for president, by the way. I think 35 is the age. Yeah, definitely not doing that. Oh, so you're going to run for president one day. No. You can make the announcement here. You should.

Look at that. No way. Yeah, no. You should look at that camera right there. No, not going to do it. Not going to do it. I like being a real estate broker. I like my life.

I like my business. I don't need that kind of public scrutiny. I have enough scrutiny already. You already. What do people say about you from watching the show? They think they know everything about you. Yeah, everybody does, but it's okay. I signed up for it. It's good. Everyone knows me as the real estate guy. I'm like, yes, I am. Do you need to move, buy, sell, or lease? It works well. Sell all of this stuff. Yeah. I want to sell all the things. Do you get slandered by other real estate guys around here? I always wonder about that.

Is there a lot of shit talk there? 81,000 real estate agents in this city. Right? There's a lot. That's just here. I think in the country there's probably 2 million real estate agents and more and more and more join the workforce every day in part because of reality TV

shows and because you don't have to have a college degree, like you don't have to put yourself into student debt, you can graduate high school, get your real estate license, you click online or go to a class for anywhere from 50 to 100 hours, depending on what state you're in. And you can go and advise people on million dollar investments. And if someone buys something, or you sell something, you take anywhere from, that's, you know, two and a half 3% to 6% of that price. And so it's a scary thing, but it can be very, very rewarding as well.

Pulling out your calculator there. Yep, right now, 2.5% to 6%? Yeah. That's like $60 million a year. I just did the quick math there. Good for me. Yeah, good work. Well, it wasn't me.

It was the phone that was created already before I got here. Yeah. That's why I'm just thankful to use it and to sell it. Yeah, I see. We appreciate you, man. Yeah, thanks for having me. No problem. Thank you so much.

Follow along. The YouTube thing is probably pretty incredible if I had to guess. YouTube's real. YouTube's a real thing. And it's got more people go to, I think, what is it, 1.9 billion active users on YouTube every single day. More people go to YouTube to search and buy product and find information than they go anywhere else. It's mind-boggling. They go there to buy real estate now.

Like, it's crazy. It's totally changed our business model. They also go there to watch dumb takes on sports, which we've been learning. Shout out to California and Texas. We've been getting the analytics. We're massive over there. How are you? I mean, if you need to sell a house, you can give it to me first and then I'll be able to.

That's cool. Yeah. Yeah, nice. Anything you need, man. Listen, if you ever know anyone that wants to buy or sell in New York, you let me know. Yeah, I will actually. Good. And if you know anybody that wants to give something away in New York, you let me know. Yeah, I will, actually. Good. And if you know anybody that wants to give something away in New York or L.A.?

I'll call you. I'll take it. Okay, great. Ryan Serhant. Thank you, sir. Thank you so much for that riveting interview, Ryan Serhant. Incredible. Once again, Ty and I have no idea how that conversation is going.

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Talked about that earlier today ladies and gentlemen nfl week four recap right meow the cleveland primes and the dog pounder all the way back this is the moment i've been excited about now they've got tested last week they played terribly they looked bad the entire world started to burn down around them. Everybody was talking, is this team overhyped? Is this team overrated? Can Freddy Kitchens coach his way

out of a kitchen bag? He proved that he could this weekend. Yes, he did. He really did. Get the ball to Nick Chubb. Let's go ahead and get the ball on the ground. Let's go ahead and open up the pass offense if we need it by utilizing Odell Beckham Jr. as a distraction. Odell Beckham was carrying

three players around at all times around him. He got the ball twice, only seven targets. He's only touched the ball three times in the last 16 series. Is Odell Beckham going to be able to maintain a level head with not getting the rock tie? In short, no, I don't think so. I mean, we all know what

the kind of guy Odell is If they're winning, I guess maybe it's not as big of a deal But sooner or later, I mean, big dog's going to want to eat Odell Beckham Jr. likes a few things He likes dancing, loves dancing One of the best dancers I've ever seen I would argue that he is a very talented dancer Yeah, I'd agree

He likes kicking field goals after he spins the football in warm-ups. He does like that. I would argue he's one of the best spinning football field goal kickers in the history of that. He likes good earrings, one of which he lost on the field yesterday after getting strangled on the field with no call by the refs, by the way, which is a bit wild to me. But he also likes the ball. And that's what's so interesting about this Browns team,

is they were able to get a massive win against a dog-grumpy Redskins team that's going to be in competition with the Dolphins for that first pick, by the way. That place is a dysfunction haven. They got nothing going on. But, no, not against the Redskins. That's completely wrong, everything I just said. It was the Ravens. Close.

R, you know. Yeah. But the Ravens were a team everybody was talking about and hyping up and instead you get the ball to Nick Chubb you get that defense to open up then they start fighting a little bit start strangling Odell Beckham but the offense I felt like they moved the ball and it's interesting to me Jarvis Landry got a chance to eat that old uh what's Seals Jones got a chance to benefit from Odell Beckham taking a lot of the defense off of him. They got a lot of things going well there.

Will Odell continue to allow himself just to be the distraction just to help out that team? I can't imagine he'll do it too long, but you've said it before. I think Baker has kind of just like a certain energy around these guys where he can keep him happier. It's not like a guy like Eli who's so milquetoast and just isn't really ever saying anything, isn't necessarily defending him. I think Baker will know when they're almost at a breaking point,

and he's like, okay, I need to let Odell eat today. Well, they stunk a couple weeks ago, and Odell said, I have all the faith in the room. I know the guys. We're going to turn it around. A lot of people outside said, you know what? Big personalities probably not going to be able to turn it around. Because once the bullets start flying and things bad

start happening, normally that's when the big personalities head for the hills. Instead, Odell Beckham has one of his best friends in the locker room with him in Jarvis Landry, and hopefully that'll keep him maintained. And for the Cleveland Browns in the dog pound, excitement is back in Cleveland all of a sudden, just like it was in the offseason.

And on the flip side, the Baltimore Ravens, have they been figured out? Do people know how to stop this Lamar Jackson offense that will look like it was a world beater week one? I don't know. It sure looks that way. You stop Hollywood Brown, it appears as if you stop the Baltimore Ravens. You stop the run, you stop Hollywood Brown, it appears as if that's how you stop the Ravens, and that's what the Browns did. But it's hard to go into Baltimore and get a win on the road in the AFC North, especially with all the drama happening around the Cleveland Browns.

I like that Browns team all of a sudden. And their defense looked good. Had a big-time game. Good for them. Yeah, I mean, the score makes it look a little bit closer than it was, 40-25. I mean, they beat the hell out of them. They dominated that game from start to finish. Not a lot of people are saying it, but is Lamar Jackson overrated?

As hell. Is he overrated as hell? I think that's what we need to be talking about today. The interesting thing is I was pushing hard for Lamar Jackson after that week one. He had a perfect passer rating. It's hard not to fall for it there. You're like, you know what? This guy, who was just giving the keys to an organization,

keys to a franchise, Harbaugh said, we're going to change our offense up so that Lamar Jackson is our guy. Add some tight ends, ground and pond. We'll draft this electric kid from Oklahoma named Hollywood Brown that'll open things up. And that first week he came out and it was like, you know what?

Did they change football? Did Harbaugh change football? We got something here. We got a guy. We got a guy that can throw the ball. He had 20 passes. Perfect passer rating. The Ravens are back.

The Ravens are back. And then all of a sudden you have to go now, wait a minute. Are they? Are they? Are they? I don't know. Time will tell. Looks like the Browns are securely in the driver's seat of the AFC North. Ladies and gentlemen, wearing a backpack in the studio.

Not sure what's in it. Kyle Brandt. Hey, what's going on? Kyle Brandt. The backpack is for the face of New York sports right now, Daniel Jones. That's how he shows up to game day in the L.L. Bean, the khakis, and the backpack. Did you see the shot of him rolling into the stadium? Oh, yeah, yeah.

It's so perfect. And it's like, if you could undo the backpack, there's definitely OAR tickets in there. I said, oh. All day. I said, revolution. He's going to see it live. Yes.

Love him. But who knows what else? Girlfriend, Taylor gets a present in there. Her golden retriever scout, a bone for him. Whatever it may be. It was like, I said it last week, Daniel Jones has the dukest face of all time. Like, Daniel Jones makes Christian Laettner look like he's in the Wu-Tang Clan. It's unbelievable.

I've never seen it, and he's the face of the New York Giants. Okay, Christian Laettner, super Caucasian as well. Yes, very. Something to think about. Bobby Hurley. Let's go right into this. Let's go right into Daniel Jones. I said this this morning on Get Up, and I thoroughly believe it.

Daniel Jones has a little William Wallace in him. When you need to rally the troops and whenever you need a locker room to believe in you, you need Daniel Jones. And let me tell you why. I like this. Whenever he started, everybody was like, doesn't matter how Daniel Jones does, that defense absolutely stinks. Whenever he was getting the win against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, they said,

oh, he scored too quickly there. Don't let Jameis Winston and Bruce Arians march down that field because your defense stinks. And the only thing that the Giants defense has done since he has become starting quarterback, produced five turnovers, zero whenever Eli was quarterback. The QBR, the opposing quarterback, is down 50% since Daniel Jones has gotten in the game.

So whenever you know you have a guy leading the offense, it completely changes everything. Daniel Jones is in there giving war cries. He's like, listen, not now, not this year. We don't stink no more. I have my backpack on. I have my OAR tickets. And when we get the ball, we're going to score for you.

Do you agree? I do. I do. And it's like he also, William Wallace, like he had that cool red-bearded sidekick. That was Saquon. Daniel Jones lost his sidekick. But you know what the test is, my friend? The test is in two weeks they play the Patriots.

William Wallace beat the English. Could Daniel Jones beat New England? It's all coming. Can he consume them with fireballs from his ass and bolts of lightning from his ass? I'm bouncing. We're talking about Scottish Daniel Jones. Yes. Yes, I like it. I like him too, but boy, that Redskins team is

terrible. I think they might be worse than the Dolphins. I think so too. During the highlight today, I said I think that they would lose to the Josh Rosen Dolphins or the Fitzpatrick. They're that bad. You think? I think so. That's tough to say now because the Chargers literally had, I think they only had four skill players dressed. That's why Melvin Gordon dressed. Everybody's like, oh, they're dressed as Melvin Gordon, they're going to be bald.

No, the Chargers literally have zero players that have the ability to be active, and they still won by 20 over the Dolphins. That Dolphins team is elite suckness right now. I mean, they are a different level of suck, but the turmoil and the dysfunction in that Redskins organization is next level.

Dwayne Haskins' body language is disgusting, right? I talked about this, it is absolutely, even on draft night, his body at Redskins organization, is next level. Dwayne Haskins' body language is disgusting. I talked about this. It is absolutely. Even on draft night, his body language was disgusting. He was charging people to get in there and watch the draft with him. I like a good businessman, but everything's just been bad. The first couple weeks when Case Keenum started,

he's not even near him to learn and watch and anything like that. Not that Case Keenum is Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady that you should be taking everything he does, but even in his bad time, he could probably learn a lot. And then last night, yesterday, and now, Granted, you only know what the TV shows you. Sure. They showed him on the sideline and everybody else around him had an iPad or what other thing?

Microsoft Surface. Sorry, not an iPad. Surface. You can't scratch it. That's what they say. It's better than an iPad. That's right, yes. Melinda Gates, thank you. But everybody around him had one, except for him. He didn't have the Surface. It's just, yes. Melinda Gates, thank you. But everybody around him had one except for him. They didn't have the service. Everything looks bad, but I think I was judging him too hard because now you're hearing these stories

about how the coaches are literally leaking that they hate him. The coaches are like, listen, off the record, they're telling these media people, it sounds like Hugh Jackson back there, by the way. Off the record, we all hate Dwayne Haskins. We don't want him in there. Go ahead and write that, just don't say it came from me. So then they're, we all hate Dwayne Haskins. We don't want him in there. Go ahead and write that. Just don't say it came from me.

So then they're writing, coaches hate Dwayne Haskins. Front office loves him. Do you think Dwayne Haskins has any chance in this Redskins organization? I mean, it looks like they are set up for failure forever as long as it continues to run the way it runs. Pat, let me ask you about your organization for a second because the way you were gesturing just brought me to this point. Less accurate right now. Dwayne Haskins or that caricature of your face on the monitor. Who is that guy?

Is that CT from the real world? Who is that? For those that aren't watching at home that are just listening, our particular logo has the Pat McAfee show with my face on it. This is on the side of a truck that we drive around. Oh yeah. This thing is everywhere. And this is actually the third edition and it was created hours before we went live on

the last day. There were two that were scrapped prior to that? Oh, yes. What did those look like? One looked like Baker Mayfield, and then the next one kind of looked like a mix of you two right there. Yes. Actually a tie in Calgary.

Remember when Brady was in court and they did the chalk sketch? And they said, why is Theon Greyjoy sitting in for Tom Brady? What is that? We got that artist. Is that true? Look at the Pat McAfee show on DAZN. Look at you, all gummy and everything. You're much better looking than that.

Oh, thank you. That means a lot. That is a tough look at me there. But to be honest, my face is not what we're here for. Is that true? Your takes. Yes. Yes.

Yeah, takes on takes. Take land. You're a next- door neighbor on this floor. You are like the cool neighbor who has parties next to Good Morning Football. Well, the funny thing about that is our party, if it was to be judged strictly by the things that we're allowed to have inside of it, like the green room, for instance, it would be one-eighth of your guys' green room. We actually take your bagels, cut them in half, and put them on our side. That happens.

We get the table scraps from you guys' breakfast. Alex Schrager took a bite out of it. That's what you guys get? Yeah, pretty much. Is Gordon Morning Football always here? No, it's been like five different places, but it's been here for a year. Started in the west side, and then we were in Times Square. Now we're here, but we move a lot. They thought your show was going to get canceled.

It's possible, yes. Originally? It probably should have been, yeah. We're a miracle. Walking miracle. Yeah, but right now, you guys have found nothing but success. It's a great morning show. I enjoy watching thanks man people seem to like it i don't i don't get to cut up on radians or any of that stuff but people like it it's a dangerous place to be the thing that people like but maybe the ratings aren't robust then you get like freaked and geeked sometimes you know what i mean there's a lot of shows like that with analytics and stats because you guys probably crush on the internet i'd assume yeah i mean the twitter stuff is good

and mondays are like today's show it's just highlights for three hours. It brings me back to when I was a kid and I would watch Web Gems with Charlie Steiner or whatever it was. Highlights are undefeated. Nobody ever turns off highlights. So we just do that for three hours and we crack pop culture jokes. It's awesome. Is it Baker Mayfield's AFC North right now? Yeah, yeah.

You think? I took the vow, like, back in July. I said, this is what's going to happen. The thing's going to start terrible. And either he and Odell are going to scream at each other or he's going to have some bad Twitter episode or Freddie Kitchens is going to suck. And thing's going to start terrible, and either he and Odell are going to scream at each other, or he's going to have some bad Twitter episode, or Freddie Kitchens is going to suck, and everyone's going to jump off. It just took one week. The loss of the Titans, they're like, ha-ha, you guys suck.

I took a vow. I'm standing by him. I still believe in him because I actually think Nick Chubb right now is their best player. He's incredible. Absolutely incredible. And Freddie Kitchens had to go cook in the kitchen and figure out a way to get him in the ball. You know what? I'm glad you brought that up, Pat.

I took another vow that obviously you didn't. When they hired Freddie Kitchens, I'm not going to make any kitchen-related puns. Why? Burleson makes all of them. They're so easy. When they started off, the Browns didn't have clean lines. They didn't have an open concept.

It was like a bad kitchen. Nate makes all of them. I took a vow not to make any. You obviously did not. A lot of Kitchens puns? No, I don't take vows. The only thing I take vows about is if somebody draws my face, it doesn't look like me. So I can say, look,

I'm better in person than I am on the side of the court. They took a vow to make the host the guy from Sum 41 and they did it. There he is. You're in too deep, Pat. I don't know who that is. He looks kind of like that guy. Your take on the NFL right now. We're in a good spot, I think.

Each week, now granted, there's been blowouts, which isn't normal because like 85% of games are normally one-score games. So there has been some blowouts. But man, that Bills-Patriots game yesterday, you're just talking about there is a chance really for good football here for the rest of the season. I'm excited about it. Today, my take on the whole NFL, I didn't know this was the case, but I stumbled into it. Today is Moral Victory Monday. There's a lot of that going around where people are saying, yeah, well, look, the Lions, they played really well.

They almost won, and the Bills almost beat the Patriots, which I just think is so unbelievably pathetic. It drives me crazy. And these Lions fans are saying, why aren't you talking more about how well we played? Because you lost. Because you were at home and turned it over a bunch of times. You should have beaten Mahomes.

You had him, and you blew it. Ty? Yeah, I mean, there's no such thing as a good loss in the NFL. Well, I mean, sometimes there is. No, there isn't.

But the Lions, that definitely is not one of them. You've got to win that football game. And the Bills? Nobody's going to remember that the Lions held the Chiefs up against the ropes.

In like three to four weeks from now, nobody's going to be like, oh, you remember when Matt Patricia and the Lions had them up against the ropes there and then he fumbled on the goal line and gave up 100 points? No one's going to remember that.

Is anybody going to remember that, oh, man, the Bills defense was really good and Brady didn't play well and they almost won with Matt Barkley? No, they're not. You've got to win the game. Brady played one of the worst games of his career and they lost at home to him. That was terrible. Blocked punt, by the way, to the house, which was an outsmarted situation, by the way. I want to ask you about this.

What's your take? Let me hear. Oh, so the Buffalo Bills, their gunner was left unblocked, right? So there was a nine-man box with their New England Patriots. So the New England Patriots must have seen something in film on the Buffalo Bills that whenever you get a nine-man box, which means you're leaving one of the gunners unmarked, that they don't bring down their gunner to add the block. Some people bring down the gunner to add protection, or it's the punter's right to throw the ball

straight to the wide-open person. We did this in Jerry World. I threw it to Dewey McDonald. He dropped it, but the person came hot off the edge, so he was left uncovered. We threw it, but forever and ever after that, no team will bring somebody off because they know that I could throw the ball to the gunner. So with the Buffalo Bills, they apparently had never shown that they would throw it. They showed that they would never bring the guy down there to block,

and they just got outsmarted. The left wing on film, I think, during the game was circled for not picking up his block. But if you watch the Buffalo Bills punt team, they went to zone, which means they're supposed to pick up two people. And the guy did the Holy Cross method where he just opened his arms up like this, do boom, bang, boom, touchdown Matthew Slater, greatest gunner in the history of football. It's just a classic outsmarted situation. So for everything that the Buffalo Bills did right on defense, and everything they did right, not letting Tom Brady just Tom Brady the hell out of them. They just couldn't pick it up in that third phase of special teams. They get outsmarted by Belichick. And that's why, in my head, yesterday's game was, if you can't beat the Patriots then, when can you? It's just you can't.

Because if the offense thinks the other two sides of the ball will pick it up, that defense is not being talked about enough. Everybody's talking about the Chicago Bears defense. Everybody's talking about the Patriots defense. It was awesome to watch our special teams win that game, though, which I think they did. I'm so glad you're all over that because we ran the highlight a million times this morning.

I wanted to pause it on the punt because tell me it is not incumbent upon some special teams captain who's on that punt team to see that the gunner's uncovered and to call bingo or alert or something, and you have to throw him the ball. It's wide open. So it's either directly on the punter who sees it or the PP, the guy who's making the cadence

who is normally five yards behind the ball. It's either his job to bring the gunner down, like, hey, need you to pick up. Get in here, we need to help. We need to help. Or it's his job to be like, give a little ass pat or something,

like, hey, throw that ball out there. But they're also backed up in their own end. So you've got a lot of coaches that are scared to do it, right? Because if he throws that ball to somebody that's not used to catching the ball and they drop it, that's a touchdown the other way

for the New England Patriots. A la what happened to us against the Dallas Cowboys. When I threw it to Dewey, we dropped it. All of a sudden, the Cowboys now have the ball on the 18-yard line. They went on to win by 50. And a lot of people would point at that exact moment to be the roll of the tide there whenever it all changed. That's the right play.

He just didn't catch it. Right play, yes. Pat, if you're that punter, that Bill's punter, and you're like, oh, my God, the gunner's uncovered. Aren't you dying to get the ball so you can throw it to him? You guys got to throw it. If you watch back the Cowboys rep where I threw it, as soon as I saw that guy come, you see me step up a yard almost.

I'm like, well, here we go. This has been all those years of backyard football in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, all the pickup football that you played at college, all the scout team quarterback you ran. Now is your moment to deliver a dime in Jerry World on primetime television because a defense thought you couldn't do it. That's basically what the defense is saying, by the way. McAfee's not going to make that throw.

They're not going to make that throw. They're scared to do that. They're scared to do anything. That's what the Patriots said to the Bills yesterday, and they were, and they got a touchdown out of it, which ended up being the difference in the game. Matthew Slater's first ever touchdown ever. He never had one. He deserves it.

I wouldn't mind seeing the punter sling it a little bit because, on the other hand, Josh Allen stinks at quarterback. Good idea. Good H-back. Good tight end, maybe. He is a terrible quarterback. Yeah, that was really bad. I always refer to, at holidays, you know how you'll have, there's the grown-up

table where they got scotch and roast beef and then there's the kids table where it's like graham crackers and juice boxes and everything like the bills were just escorted back to the kids table and given some dinosaur shaped chicken fingers by the Patriots I hate it I still think the bills are a very good team though I still think they're gonna do now granted with Matt Barkley at the helm I'm not exactly sure I think he's proven a lot Josh Allen not proving to be an incredible quarterback but I think he has something that can win them some games. But that defense is very good. I don't know what's going to happen, but that is a game where we asked last week

who was more likely to win in the undefeated matchups, the Lions over the Chiefs or the Bills over the Patriots. The poll of the people that we put out, over 15,000 votes, the poll of the people said the Bills are more likely to beat the Pats than the Lions are to beat the Chiefs, strictly because everybody hates the Patriots. If we go straight by scores, we were right. The Lions were more likely to beat the Chiefs, but neither team got the win, which is exactly what we thought.

We move on to another week. The Patriots, Chiefs still undefeated and keep it rolling. The storyline we all want as consumers of the NFL, we want to see the Patriots' era end just because it would be fascinating. I like them, but to see that domination in the AFC East end, that's something to talk about, to sink our teeth into here. Is it going to be one of these Josh Allen,

Josh Rosen, or Sam Darnold? Those aren't going to be the guys. Those aren't the Kingslayers. It's not happening. Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, Sam Darnold. Those are the guys? Come on. That's the division right now. They're the end of the empire? Get out of here. Tom Brady's eating his avocado ice cream, his weird chocolate. Petting his hairless

cat, whatever he's got. Talking to Guerrero. He's like, do you see around the division right now? I'm going to play until I'm 50. Absolutely I'm going to play until I'm 50. Do you see these teams that they're stacking up around us? I mean, one guy gets mono. I mean, who does that? Then Josh Allen gets concussed out of nowhere because he is

an athlete. A lot of people, Bill's players were not happy about that. No, they were pissed off. They were talking about how there's no place in the game for that. I think that was a victim of circumstance there on both sides. I think John Jones, I think his name was? Something. Justin Jones. I actually don't remember his name.

Jay Jones. Yeah, JJ. Mr. Jones. Yep. Mr. Jones. Like Counting Crows. Exactly right. He was kind of bad position there because

the guy was taking Josh Allen down and Josh didn't slide. Josh was trying to make a play and he just so had it. He didn't lead with his helmet like Vontaze Burfecht. He kind of did a shoulder thing there. So I respect the overreaction because it's your guy, your franchise quarterback. But for me, that was nowhere near like a

disgusting, volatile shot. I don't even think the hit was what really gave him the concussion. It was his head bouncing off the turf like a basketball. I think that's where... And they have no NBA team in Buffalo. No, exactly. Mr. Jones also did a little bit of posturing afterwards. He hit a little flex

and that optic is never good in slow-mo. Just for future reference, I've never hit somebody like that. Right. I mean, I had one hit, but I was probably concussed as well because I led with my helmet. I remember that point. On Trinan Holliday. On the sideline, right?

Yeah. On Trinan Holliday, who's like four foot three. That's the guy you hit? He's an Olympic sprinter. I would hit your ass, too, if you were there. Of course. You have a giant head. I'm easy.

Yeah, me too. But I didn't get a chance to flex there. I have a couple regrets. I wish I'd jumped over the Oakland Raiders middle linebacker during a fake field goal. Instead of trying to hit a spin move on him, I should have just jumped right over top of him. I remember that. That is a regrettable move by me. And the other one is that I didn't flex on a sideline in front of Peyton Manning's big-ass head

and John Fox right there on his sideline. It was on the Broncos' sideline, not the Colts? Right in front of John Fox. Oh, that would have been so good. Yeah, it was incredible. Eric Decker was over there celebrating. It was a good moment. Handsome man. Very handsome. I'm happy he's

done with football, right? Yeah, I think he wrapped it up. He and his wife have the whole thing going, the reality show or something. What I've learned from those guys that have reality TV shows, once you start seeing some money from somewhere else, it's hard to want to go out there and just get crushed, unless you're Tom Brady. Yeah. Or something along those lines.

Well, yeah, I mean, like Cutler, he gets paid to look at his deer stands on TV. It sounds great. Hey, Cutler was murdered by the media, probably you included. Sure. You guys probably buried him for a long time, and now he is shining as a human that people want to hang out with. Isn't that amazing? Smoke and Jay Cutler used to be the joke of everything. Like, oh, this guy doesn't care about

his team. He doesn't care about anything. Bad body language. Yeah, bad body language, like Dwayne Haskins, and then he watches reality shows. You're like, this guy doesn't care about his team. He doesn't care about anything. Bad body language. Yeah, bad body language like Dwayne Haskins and then he watches reality shows. Like, this guy's the best human on earth. The only bigger comeback, I think, was in this sitting was A-Rod. A-Rod became like this darling who's married to Jennifer Lopez and was a pariah. People didn't want to talk about him. I don't want to

dive into it because I don't like to promote anything that's bad, but that Screwball documentary, I guess, is pretty bad for a little bit. Doesn't look great for A-Rod. That's why I won't watch it. But he's addressed all that stuff, you know, so it's kind of like, eh, whatever. But yeah, he doesn't come off great in that. Did you watch it? Mm-hmm.

Because you're a big baseball guy. Yep. What is it about the Roids and all that stuff? Yeah, it's all about Balco. Is that true? Yeah. The dude who did cocaine, Cowboys, did it. Really?

Yeah. I once heard there was a report about A-Rod and his usage where someone advised him allegedly that when you're doing a urine test, don't capture the beginning of it. Capture midstream, not beginning and not end because it's different. And I'm like, that is so disgusting and so insipid that they would get that

deep into it, but that's apparently the depths of the thing went. Yeah, that's how you beat a drug test. Kyle. What? You said it's disgusting? Yes. We're talking about pee. I would argue that I probably know 14 to 15 guys that tried that method. Oh, that's common knowledge? Well, when the annual

test comes out, right? So this annual test for the NFL, it's an annual street drug test. So once you get tested one time, you're clear for the rest of the year. And everybody knows that it's literally between April 20th, 420, the NFL is hilarious, and the first week of training camp. Once you get tested in that batch there, you're clear forever. Some guys don't get clean for that 421 because they don't expect to be on the

first group. And they're like, your name gets called out by the trainer. You have been selected for your annual drug test. Whenever my name was called, literal celebration from the rest of my teammates. Like, congrats, Pat. Like, thank you, man. I would even get comments from the coaches like, Pat, are we good? We good my teammates. Like, congrats, Pat. Thank you, man. I would even get comments from the coaches like, Pat, are we good?

We good? Yeah, yeah, we're all good. This is actually really good as well. Congratulations. This is going to be a good one. Yeah, thank you. I'm like, yeah, we're all good. We're all good. But some of my teammates, right, would be like, oh, man, I'm like a week and a half, maybe two weeks out. And then the common answer was get the midstream pee.

Is that a wives' tale? Does it work? I have no idea. I've never had to do it personally. I've never had to do that, but that is something that is talked about very well. So the fact that you were just like, oh, disgusting. I'm like, well, take it easy, Kyle. I think a lot of guys are getting by their weed tests on an annual basis. Well, if it works, God bless them.

I hope it works. I find myself thinking about it sometimes when I'm urinating. This is right when I would capture it. You know what I think about things like as I'm melting the ice in a pub, I'm thinking this is the perfect scream. I'm urinating. This is right when I would capture it. You know what I think about things like, as I'm melting the ice in a pub, you know, and I'm thinking, this is the perfect scream. I'm a weird guy. It is interesting. To have to pee in front of another human is already interesting. Yeah. But then

to somehow act like you've missed the cup at the beginning, because that's the only way that you could possibly get in there midstream because the guy is watching you pee. And he knows you're pulling a midstream, right? Yeah, he has to be like, classic midstream. I heard about this, don't you? Hey. It's going on your record. I know what you're doing. You better get the end of that, tail end of that pee too. Because if I'm not mistaken, to your point, it's also the end of the stream can be contaminated. Only the mid

sweet spot. So you have to start out, go in, and then re-disengage towards the end of the urination. Yeah, it's a big deal. These drug tests are a big deal. I've been tested all over the country in different hotels in front of people. I mean, it's just a whole different animal. And the person's literally standing, there's no partition, they see everything. Shirt to nipples. They see your anatomy, all that? Shirt to nipples, pants to ankles. That's the rule. So you can't use

the Ontario Smith, the Wizenator thing, right? Yeah, that's why. So you have to do it, and they even give you like a little alright, spread it real quick, alright, so anything can drop out of the old butthole. You have to spread it quick? Yeah, you do like a little spread thing real quick. Oh, man. For weed? I was tested eight times a month for 27 months.

Yeah. And it wasn't for weed. It was all street drug tests because when I get arrested for the public intoxication, you automatically go into the substance of abuse program. So I went in immediately, and for 27 months, I was tested eight times a month all over the place. So I got people in Georgia that see my dong I got people in Vegas, Pittsburgh California, you name it, I've been tested everywhere

and it just gets to the point where you're like just alright let's do this thing man, take off my shirt here in this hotel lobby bathroom that you just called me down for I remember when the public intoxication happened, I was working for Rome

at the time, and we did a whole riff on it. Did you? Yeah, I'm sorry. I guess you brought it up in one of the other ones. 10.39, gotta get to a break. It really sucks, Kyle Brandt. Just out of time. Man, that's a shame. Your Good Morning Football is incredible. You were really good on there, too. Dude, I would love

to be part of this in any way. We're always neighbors. If somebody bails on you, you lose a guest, me, Nate, or Peter will come in. Anytime you want. You guys should. We're right here. It helps me out a lot. You know, because Ty, incredible human. I'm around him 24-7.

Seems like a good guy. Great guy. I appreciate that. From Waterloo, Iowa. He's a big fan of Rome and you. That's awesome. That's awesome. I am, too.

We can do a recurring segment called For the Brands, if you want. And I can give you takes if you want. Don't try to jock my thing. Here's something we haven't talked about yet. Dallas Cowboys offense last night stunk bad. Came out at halftime, thought they made some adjustments, had good tempo, got the ball moving, rolling down the field. Here we go.

This is the offense we've been used to seeing the last three weeks. Granted, their opponents the last three weeks have been bad. Bad football teams. Everybody thought Dak Prescott was this new passer, found his new thing. Kellen Moore is the offensive juggernaut whiz kid that everybody needed for the future.

Last night, people were wondering, did they come back down to earth or did they just have a bad night in New Orleans, which is a tough place to play? I say this. I think it's going to be interesting watching Kellen Moore, who appears to be a 13, 14-year-old, have to deal with a lot of criticism that's going to come his way after struggling last night. Is Dak Prescott still going to stand by his guy Kellen Moore with a terrible game plan to take on the New Orleans Saints last night while Dec Prescott is trying his absolute best to earn a massive contract from the Dallas Cowboys and Jerry Jones.

Will Lutz of the Saints had a massive game, winning that one all by himself, basically, against the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday night football. He spelled Will with one L. He handed out another one last night. Let's call him Wee Lutz. I am a big fan of what Will Lutz did. I like that the Saints have been able to maneuver and win games without Drew Brees. Sean Payton is a smart play decision or a play drawer, playmaker, play caller,

with Teddy Bridgewater's strength being a little bit shorter passes, a little bit more precision passes. Wearing two gloves last night, interesting. Caught a couple low snaps. I was like, good idea there with the two gloves. Don't know how you get any feel on the ball with two gloves, but maybe that's why not a lot of quarterbacks do it, but Teddy Bridgewater's getting some wins.

I think, though, that now is the time that Jerry Jones slides in like Chris Collinsworth, right into Dak Prescott's agent, and he goes, listen, you want to talk about this contract now, or do we want to continue to let this thing slide? And Dak Prescott's agent, and he goes, listen, you want to talk about this contract now, or do we want to continue to let this thing slide? And Dak Prescott's agent's like, oh, he had one bad game.

You think that that's going to persuade us away from saying he deserves a couple hundred million? Well, I'm just letting you know, one bad game can become two. Don't handcuff me and not allow me to even give you guys any money. I would assume that Jerry Jones will start negotiating with Dak on a long-term contract, specifically now more than ever before, but I don't think it's time to

call it off on the Dallas Cowboys. I don't think now is the time to lose faith in the Dallas Cowboys. That defense is incredible. I like the way the defense plays. Their special teams are solid, and if Dak Prescott and Kellen Moore could get back on the same page and make that offense a little bit hum,

a little bit more. Without a fumble, by the way, I think Zeke was down there. I don't know how they called that, and I want to review and call it still a fumble. But I don't think the time is now to bail on the Dallas Cowboys. I like the Dallas Cowboys, but I am intrigued to see how Kellen handles this criticism that is bound to come due to them being a massive team in the country. Well, and we'll see what happens this week. They've got somewhat of a tough game. The Packers have a little extra time to prepare here. But on the flip side of that, they also have that Swiss cheese run defense.

So we'll see. I mean, this could be a big Zeke game. I don't know if Dak necessarily has to do that much against the Packers. Well, and that's what we've seen in years past, right, is Zeke, Zeke, Zeke, Zeke, Zeke, feed Zeke with the bowl and the spoon and the whole thing. This year, Dak Prescott wanted to prove that the team was him, mostly because going into the season, they didn't know if they were going to have Zeke. So they thought Dak would have to carry the team on his shoulders all night

or every single game. Zeke comes back. He's getting back into it. I don't think that was a fun play. It's just running over in my head so many times. I think he was down. I don't know how. These refs. It's just running over in my head so many times. I think he was down. I don't know how. These refs, by the way.

Oh, my God. The optics of these refs in the NFL and the NFL ref union signing a new extension right now after how horrid the refs have been. Optically, that is terrible. It makes it look like the refs have been holding out being good refs in their negotiation with the NFL. Almost like, you see? You see? you see, you see how much we control the game?

You see how much we can control the game? Do you want to renegotiate now? Oh, you want us to review past interferences? No, no, no. I'm so sorry. Let's go ahead and renegotiate this CBA. The optics look terrible, but I don't think it's going to change them from sucking. I think the refs are still going to suck.

I think it's going to be tough. But for me, that Dallas Cowboys team, I'm not giving up hope yet, but they are going to have a tough challenge against that Green Bay defense who, before Thursday night, showed up in a big way. I think the story's kind of out with the Packers defense. If they're creating turnovers and getting to the quarterback,

then they're in very good shape. If they're not, teams are just going to gash them up the middle and on the edges. I don't know. it'll be interesting. And all the stuff with the floor, we'll see what kind of game plan he has for Rodgers this week. Because, I mean, this is a big, big game. If the Packers lose this one, a lot of people are going to jump off that bandwagon. If they win, you know, it kind of reinforces the idea that they might be one of the teams to beat in the NFC.

Let's stay in that division. I am jumping hard on the Chase Daniels bandwagon here. I know Zito's already on it. Mitchell Trubisky goes, Don, and everybody in Chicago breathes a deep sigh of relief. Okay, so he got hurt. We don't have to say it. Nagy doesn't have to say it. But now Chase Daniels steps in, and we have a defense that appears to be once in a lifetime.

This defense seems generational. Now, granted, the Patriots' defense is not getting enough love. I think they're incredible. But this Chicago's defense controls game. This Chicago's defense wins games. This Chicago defense, Rex Ryan said it earlier, reminds him of the 2000 Baltimore Ravens defense that won Trent Dilfer a Super Bowl.

Trent Dilfer's still getting TV jobs off of what that defense has done. No defense since then has seemed to dominate games like this Chicago Bears defense. Khalil Mack, all the boys on that side of the ball control what the other teams do. Now granted, Kirk Cousins? Stinks.

He is bad at football, but I don't think we should judge him against the Chicago Bears defense. Adam Thielen came out after the game and talked about how the pass game has to pick it up. We can't just rely on Dalvin Cook rushing for 400 yards a game. But against that Chicago Bears defense, I think it's a lot easier said than done. I think with Chuck Pagano pulling the strings, calling it after a year off of football and getting a chance to sit back and analyze and realign his love for the game,

I think that Chicago Bears defense is clicking on all cylinders, and I would hate for them to waste it with a quarterback. Mitchell Trubisky, I'm sure, is a good guy. I'm sure he has a chance to be a good quarterback. But right now you can tell he's in his own head. He's overthinking things. And right now that locker room, big dongs and all, they need a quarterback that can go out there and make plays for them.

And I think Chase Daniel is that guy right now. He's been a backup for 45 years for a reason. The guy can sling the ball. He's going to make mature decisions. He's going to be a veteran, and hopefully that Chicago Bears defense with him can be something good because I love hearing Zito say, Bear, Don.

That a boy, Z. That a boy, Z. Zito, are you on the mic still? Yes, sir. When Mitchell Trubisky went down, how did you feel? He went down, but I knew Chase Daniel would come on in and just tear it up. See, all of Chicago, there's no loyalty to Mitchell Trubisky. They see what everybody else sees.

They see that that defense is unbelievable. They see that that defense put Mitchell Trubisky in an incredible position to score last week. That's why he had three touchdowns. They see that they finally might have a kicker, even though he has a pinched nerve in his knee somehow, which I never heard of. They see that they have a team that potentially has all the building blocks for success, again, in the midway. They are the monsters of the midway. They would not want Mitchell Trubisky to get the Cody Parkey treatment and be the reason why they don't make the big play. I think everybody's happy that Chase Daniel gets a chance to step in here and make plays so they don't have to hate mitchell

trabisky forever yeah i agree i think the the sentiment is kind of coming around in chicago that hey trabisky the guy's probably a stooge probably a stooge out there i will say that we just adapt and we thrive at all times no matter what quarterback we have no who we always do it's all that's all we do here. But, I mean, you also score 16 points. I mean, the defense is responsible for a lot of that, and you don't have to worry about scoring a lot of points in a game

like that because Kirk Cousins is possibly the worst quarterback in the history of football. Every quarterback we've played, though, they're just the worst quarterback, though. Well, Rodgers is pretty good, but outside of that. When I say this, I think the Bears are going to make a lot of people

look bad. I think that Bears defense is next level. I just don't want them to waste it with a mediocre, talented quarterback. Learn from that 2000 Ravens team. If they would have had a good quarterback like Joe Flacco... I'm sorry. Instead of Trent Dilfer?

Imagine how great that team could have been. We're talking about one of the all-time great teams in the history. But instead you always say, you know, you can win with a great defense. You don't have to have a good quarterback. Remember Trent Dilfer. That's what you always say. Chicago doesn't need that with Mitchell Trubisky. Like, oh, remember when the Bears won with Mitchell Trubisky, you know? Chase Daniel has a chance now.

We'll see how that goes. The Chicago Bears fans have a lot of questions today. What are they about? Are they about loyalty, blind loyalty to Mitchell Trubisky, a man who looked like he got in some serious pain yesterday. That tackle was nasty. But as soon as he went in, it sounded like all of Chicago, and we're in Indianapolis, so we're only a couple-hour drive.

It sounded like there was a deep sigh of relief that they no longer have to fake like Mitchell Trubisky, and now they can go on with one of the greatest defenses that has ever been assembled in NFL history. That's facts. That's all me just saying something purely because I'm friends with the D coordinator, Chuck Pagano. One of the greatest defenses in NFL history is potentially being wasted away by a quarterback that doesn't look to have confidence. Something happens. He has like the yips it almost feels like.

Mitchell Trubisky feels as if he doesn't feel as if Mitchell Trubisky can be great. He gets hurt. Chase Daniel comes in. And all of a sudden, that team just picks it up. The offense starts rolling a little bit. The defense still continues to hunt. Pat O'Donnell is hitting 64-yard punts. It feels as if the same way that the Giants

felt whenever Daniel Jones came in. It was this rebirth, a new freshness of life and enlightenment. Bears fans are a loyal bunch. They're a rabid bunch. The midway has been dying for good football for a long time. I mean, that was evident after Cody Parkey went doink-doink last year.

The reactions, Barstool Carl's video is still one of the greatest videos I've ever seen in my entire life. Natural, raw reaction to that. So I feel like they feel as if they kind of got to act as if they still like Mitchell Trubisky. But if Chase Daniel has any success at all, if these next couple weeks they rattle off some

wins, now that it's his offense, by the way, now that Matt Nagy, who's a creative play caller, a la Andy Reid-esque, now that it's his offense, by the way. Now that Matt Nagy, who's a creative play caller, a la Andy Reid-esque, now that they're completely basing this all around Chase, what if Chase comes in here and dominates? If that's the case, Mitchell Trubisky, I'd like to introduce

you to a guy named Mr. Wally Pip. Wally Pip. Wally Pip. Ially Pip. I don't remember the exact player that came in. Lou Gehrig. Lou Gehrig came in because Wally Pip was hungover, feeling a little sick.

Wally Pip was the starter for a long time. He's like, you know what? Had a couple too many cocktails last night. I'm feeling a little bit of the beer flu. Like, oh, don't worry about it. Take the day off. Lou Gehrig will come in. Lou Gehrig's still starting first baseman right now.

Wally Pip never Take the day off. Luke Gehrig will come in. Luke Gehrig's still starting first baseman right now. Wally Pipp never saw the field again. That is potentially going to happen in Chicago if Chase has any success at all. If Chase has any success at all, what makes you think Nagy's going to be like, you know what? Our defense is rolling. Now our offense is rolling. Special teams is doing well. Let's go ahead and pull Chase out. Let's put Mitchell back in. Mitchell

by all accounts was not feeling himself for the first couple weeks. I just think the Chicago Bears are set up for an interesting decision if Chase does well. Yeah, I'm not so sure that when he went down with that shoulder, Bears fans weren't quietly like, oh God, I hope his arm just attaches from his body and we can be done with him. I mean, there's kind of like a collective groan when you hear like, oh, he's only out for a month. Like, God damn it, I thought he was going to be out for the season.

Is that accurate, Zito? Not accurate. I would never wish harm on anybody. But harm already happened. Harm already happened. Was there any thought in your mind, Viva Lozito, who says he's from Chicago, says he's a Bears fan? He is.

Bear. God. Okay, Zito. So whenever Trubisky goes down, he's hurt. Chase comes in. You're telling me your first goes down, he's hurt. Chase comes in. You're telling me your first thought was, oh, it's a real shame. Like you didn't go like, maybe this works out better for everybody in the long run. I just said I hope he doesn't drop the ball, and he didn't,

and he scored putty, and I was super happy. Happy Chicago. We have a 12-year-old talk. Zito sounds like a 12-year-old.. He does sound like a 12-year-old. He just said he was super happy, too, so he's super happy that he got hurt. Yeah, so he's not upset. Exactly. It's like when Andrew Luck retired out of nowhere,

he was booed off the field because of how upset and disgruntled that the fans were. But now they've rallied behind Jacoby Brissett. If Jacoby was to go down right now, I think all of Indianapolis would be upset again. Mitchell Trubisky went down, and Chase came in, and you're not hearing anything today like, oh, no, we lost our guy. No, people are hammering Miller Highlifes.

You know, I mean, they love it. They love it. Hey, Bear Don! Hey! Chase Daniels! And no one booed, though. Like, no one was booing for Andrew Luck, you know? Well, he was injured.

Andrew Luck wasn't injured. He retired. That's very true. Yeah, Chicago, third largest city in the country, from what I've been told, Houston. Sometimes two. No, it's never two. It is actually never number two. It's actually going to be four, from what I've been told.

I got a chance to call the Houston-Tulane game, and Houston told me that they're on that ass. They are trying to reproduce at a rapid rate down there to become number three city in America. But anyways, it's good for the NFL. It's good for everybody when the Chicago Bears are good at football. That defense is a once-in-a-generation football team. I hope they don't waste it, and I hope Chase takes the ball here and runs with it for a long time, lets old Mitchie sit back and be happy and see what happens.

But I would like for this Chicago Bears team to do some damage because I don't want the Trent Dilfer-Baltimore Ravens thing to happen where they're like, remember, Baltimore Ravens defense won a Super Bowl for Trent Dilfer. You don't have to have a great offense or anything like that. Well, yeah, I assume that low-key you're kind of happy. It's like, well, if this guy goes out and performs very well, then we've got to give him a contract kind of like Kirk Cousins.

And are we sure that he isn't just Kirk Cousins-lite? I mean, you know, you've got Chase Daniel, then you can get a more team-friendly contract for him. Because he's old. Exactly. You still have this dominating defense that's going to be winning you most games. Like the offense isn't what's moving the yardstick there. It's the defense.

That is an interesting thought about the contract and everything like that. Because Kirk Cousins looked like he just went in to Minnesota with a mask on and robbed them. That's exactly what it looks like. Now granted, that Bears defense is going to give a lot of people trouble. But Kirk Cousins, on numerous occasions, has figured out a way to look like an awful quarterback whenever his team needs him to. And they're paying him 84 million guaranteed or something like that that's a lot of cash these contracts they don't they're incredible for humans they're always like yeah you get broken off yeah you get paid but expectations come

exactly with your dollar amount whenever i was going through my negotiation with a general manager who absolutely hated me despised me everything like everything like that, probably for good reason. I mean, it's neither here nor there. But when we were talking about the contract with my people, whoever they were at the time, and the conversation was like, well, you've got to get a deal that sets a standard for the next punter behind you. You've got to get a deal that sets a standard for the next punter behind you. And I was thinking, yeah, but I've got to get a deal, too,

where if I have a little bit of trouble for a couple weeks, I'm not automatically on the chopping block. If I have three weeks where I'm not hitting the ball well and I'm at a high price, everybody's going to be calling from my head. That's just what happens with contracts. So whenever you sign an $84 million deal like Kirk Cousins did, all guaranteed or whatever it is, people are automatically expecting things out of you, whether you like it or not. I mean, that's just the way it is.

And I would assume Kirk Cousins has underperformed. And I would assume if Mitchell Trubisky gets that same type of payday, people in Chicago will be like, we're paying him how much? To do what? No way. No way. I think Kirk Cousins is underperformed to the point where if they tried to trade

him right now, the only thing they're getting back is like a bag of balls and a kicking tee. Like, I don't think anyone is even willing to give a draft pick for him. Yes. I mean, he stinks. He's terrible. He's bad, dude.

He's bad. All right, now it's time for America's new favorite, well, I guess the globe's new favorite segment, People Are Saying. People are saying. That's an incredible intro. It really is. All right, Pat.

People are saying that Vontaze Berfic should never be able to play in an NFL game again after trying to take off Jack Doyle's head this weekend. It's not even the fact that he tried to take off Jack Doyle's head. It was... He was trying to paralyze Jack Doyle, it looked like. Certainly seemed like it. He literally had his head down, straight spear, trying to go right at Jack Doyle's head. And the optics of Vontaze Burfik, jogging off the field,

waving, smiling, blowing kisses. Now this is either his 12th or 13th time being fined or suspended. Chris Mortensen said that the league is looking into suspending him for the rest of the season. For me, this is especially tough because Greeny raised this question earlier today. Is this something that the players should come out and say, listen, we don't want this guy in our league anymore. This is a guy who has taken numerous cheap shots on people.

This is a guy that although his teammates love him, everybody else is like, hey, this guy is a dirtbag. This guy takes cheap shots. This guy is trying to clean people out. This guy is potentially going to leave Jack Doyle's of the world paralyzed if they just so happen to accidentally go across the middle. I don't know if the players should do that because I don't think the players are in that world. I don't know how the NFL is going to handle this. They're thinking about a year-long suspension,

which I think duly noted, especially with his past. But for me as a player, I can respect the fact that he's an old school guy. You know, you come across the middle against our defense, you're going to get lit up. But that's just not the game anymore. The game isn't like that. The game isn't going in and out of commercial breaks with people that are headhunting other people. The game has changed because analytics has showed us that the future of football players isn't exactly a bright one, especially whenever headshots are happening on a regular basis. Mike Webster, who's a noted incredible football player, ended up under a bridge because of a brain injury that he says, that doctors say, happened in a football game. I think

the more and more we learn about the future of the NFL players and the more and more we learn about the brain and how precious it is, the more and more harsh we should be on things like this. And if Vontaze Perfect can't adapt to the game now, I do think there's no place for him. It's like, hey, man, we get it, you're a tough guy. We get it that your teammates love you. We get it that you want to make the opposing team's life as miserable as possible. But what happens if Jack Doyle is paralyzed there,

which is something that has happened in football, could have happened with that particular hit. Now what? Jack Doyle, paralyzed there, which is something that has happened in football, could have happened with that particular hit. Now what? Jack Doyle, just because he had to catch a ball over the middle against the Oakland Raiders, who just had a baby and a wife, now he can't walk forever because Vontaze Burfecht, who's smiling and waving on his way out of the stadium, just refuses to learn that there's a strike zone now in the way you hit people. You can't use your helmet as a weapon.

You have to use your shoulder pads. For me, it's just one of those things where it's like, come on, Vontaze. You're a good enough football player to adapt. You're liked well enough by the team that you're on. Come on, man. It's just to the point where it's like, enough. We respect that you're a hard-hitting football player, but there has to come a time where you look out for other people

other than just yourself. And that's the game of football, by the way. You're putting a lot of trust in people that they're going to take care of you and live within the guidelines of the game, and it feels like Vontaze Perfect just can't do it. Yeah, accrued $2.2 million in fines, too. You've got to think at some point when does that start to become an issue for him. Well, if the money won't do it and the suspensions won't do it

and the stats that show your hits that you're laying out to people are potentially ruining people's future, what we'll get through, I have no idea. Him, the thing that made me most mad about yesterday, no granted, Jack Doyle, good friend of mine. Jack Doyle started out as my blindside wing on the punt team before he went on to become an incredibly wealthy tight end for the Indianapolis Colts.

He was just a guy that was an undrafted free agent that we picked up from the Titans, put him on the punt team, and all he did was work his ass off to where he is now. But if Jack Doyle ends up paralyzed, which it looked like could have happened with that hit, or Vontaze, who's just leading with the top of his head, it's like, is it worth it? It's not. I think Vontaze is athletic enough.

I think he's talented enough to change the way he plays, but it just feels like he's never going to. It just feels like he's a guy that just won't get it. He just refuses to understand that this game is much bigger than just him, and although we appreciate the hits and his contribution to the game, we say, come on, dude. Get over it. I assume they're going to suspend

him for the season. I think they probably have to. Well said. Hey, appreciate it. That's a real thing, though. Yeah, it really is. Because it's like, come on, man. Literally. Come on, man. Literally. Come on, man. Why would you do that? Jack was already getting tackled, too, so it was just like he was teeing off on a guy.

I respect the fact that you're a football player and you have that killer instinct, just like in UFC where the guy's out cold and they still jump on top of him. But it's like you're going to injure yourself or somebody else, and we just don't need that right now. Exactly. The game don't need that right now. No, they don't. Now, people are saying that.

People are saying this. Vontaze Burfecht has been suspended for the rest of the year by the NFL. Wow. We have some breaking news. So Mike Greenberg's question about should the NFL players step up and say, hey, you're not welcome in our league anymore. They didn't even get a chance to say anything. Old Commissioner Goodell in the NFL grabbed a hammer from Thor, slugged that thing down, hit the hell out of a table and said, Vontaze Perfect, we are sick of the way you play

football. You tried to decapitate Jack Doyle. This is the 13th time you've been involved in these types of situations. that makes a baker's dozen and there will be no more for you this year will the raiders or another team keep them on their team next year potentially but i think this particular year since he's suspended by the way he can't be around the team he can't be at the team facility he's gonna have to sit away is he gonna go to a tackling guru somebody to teach him how to play a different style of football? I doubt it. Is this the end of Vontaze Burfik's career? I think we could all argue yes. Do I hate that that's the case? I think he could have been a great football player, but not being able to adapt to the new NFL, not being able to adapt, knowing that the rules are

the rules because of studies and analytics that show the health and benefit of future football players is on the line. I think this is a see you later, game's better without him. And I think, like you mentioned earlier, if he doesn't leave the field acting like a horse's ass, blowing kisses to him and everything and almost like celebrating it, then maybe they look at it a little bit differently. But it's like, all right, well, screw this guy. You know, he's a jerk. He's a stooge.

He's a sellout. Get him off the field. Anytime you can get a stooge or a sellout in, by the way, I like it. I've tried to work it in a couple times today. The moment just wasn't right. Yeah, you can't force it. No, you can't. You can't force a good thing there.

And stooge and sellout is a good thing. But when you're talking about Vontaze Perfect, you're talking about a stooge and sellout is a good thing. But when you're talking about Vontaze Perfect, you're talking about a stooge and sellout. I wonder what the Raiders are thinking now. Because the Raiders, if you look at their roster, by the way, they played incredible against the Colts yesterday. Colts are very

banged up. When you don't have T.Y. Hilton, who is the most underrated, underappreciated wide receiver in the NFL, and you don't have Darius Leonard, and you don't have all these guys, it's going to be a tough task to get a win anyways. But the Oakland Raiders played good football yesterday. And whenever I was looking at their roster as they walked into Lucas Oil Stadium, it was funny to me.

Richie Incognito was voted the dirtiest football player in the game for like five years running whenever he was at Buffalo. Vontaze Burford got that title like four or five years in a row as well. They have a combined decade worth of worst dirtiest football players in the league on the same roster. You would think that maybe as you get older, you can learn not to be that. You can learn and appreciate other players a little bit. But hey, hard teaching old dog new tricks. Vontaze Burfecht goes headhunting with the top of his helmet, uses his helmet as a spear, as a weapon,

tries to decapitate and paralyze Jack Doyle, and now the NFL, the Shield, has said, no longer will you be doing that, Gnarly. Get the hell out. And that's a pretty big decision by the NFL, by the way. I feel like we covered everything, Ty. Yeah. We did, didn't we? Pretty much.

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