The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1113 - Feel Good Friday with Paul Bissonnette, Pat Maroon, Paul Skenes LIVE In The ThunderDome, Mad Mel Kiper, Adam Schefter, Donny Don Don in the Rumor Mill, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: April 19, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat all the different odds movement in the NFL Draft and if Jayden Daniels is potentially not wanting to go to Washington, as well as the NHL and NBA Playoffs starting this weekend. Joining the progrum to chat about the Phoenix Coyotes moving to Salt Lake City, and the NHL Playoffs before Left Wing for the Boston Bruins Patty Maroon interrupts is seasoned NHL veteran, co-host of the Spittin’ Chiclets podcast, and Analyst the NHL on TNT, Paul Bissonnette (16:30-40:12). Next, #1 pick of the 2023 MLB Draft by the Pittsburgh Pirates, 2023 College World Series Champion, and already one of the most dominant pitchers in baseball, Paul Skenes joins the show LIVE from the ThunderDome to chat about his career, how he wasn’t always this dominant, what he does in his free time, balancing being this dominant in the minors and also trying to learn what he needs to do to be successful in the bigs, his thoughts on robotic umpires and what he needs to do to get better (40:46-56:53). Later, Mad Mel Kiper joins the show to give his latest draft analysis less than a week away from the 2024 NFL Draft (1:01:16-1:18:38). Also joining the show to chat about the situation currently going on in Washington and how there might be maneuvering to trade the pick is ESPN NFL Insider, Adam Schefter (1:31:50-1:38:50). Later, Donny Don Don joins the show again from the rumor mill to chat about what he’s been hearing (2:14:13-2:21:31). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the thunderdome on this feel good friday april 19th 2024 this program starts now sports are amazing sports are wonderful sports are the reason why we get to talk to you every single day for three-ish hours two of so right here on esbn the final hour and all three hours on YouTube, ESPN Plus, and TikTok. Wow. Yeah, we're not dancing. We don't know how long the platform's going to last, you know, with all the legislation and stuff.

I don't have one on my phone, but we do have an Emmy award-winning editor who has us on TikTok every single day, just like we'll be next Thursday night for our Draft Spectacular as we find out what teams make what decisions on what the future of their programs look like, every first-rounder could be a future Hall of Famer. Every first-rounder could be a complete bust. We'll be there live with that man, Bill Belichick,

as we break down the entire evening. And also, the Draft Spectacular kickoff show will start at 7 30 eastern okay that'll be on youtube espn.com espn plus and tiktok live espn.com being live on there's a big deal yeah oh yeah you don't hear it in the you know the intro for where this show lives uh digitally or socially uh because i don't think we normally are uh but but for the good of, how do I say this? For the good of a generation. Yeah, there you go. For the good of a generation that has seen a lot of things,

been around longer than all of us. For those that have been around a long time, might be difficult to find. Hey, we're all hearing that Bill Belichick's doing something for the draft. What is that? Yeah, we know. Yeah, we've watched football since the 50s. My age.

We understand what's going on here. We'd like to watch this entire thing. He is my age. We're peers. How do I watch? ESPN.com. We'll be right there at the top. Perfect.

Okay, so next Thursday should be epic. So is today. Paul Biz, Nasty Bizonet will join us. Yes, let's go, Biz. In about eight minutes, you know, talking about the NHL. Big hockey news. Hockey is awesome, and hockey is getting shaken up a little bit right now. Oh, yeah.

A team in Phoenix that wasn't able to fill an arena with 5,000 people for like the last 10 years, trying to find a location to kind of agree upon with the community, with the town, on where they can build an arena for this team that is awesome. This Phoenix Coyotes squad that has legends that have run through that barn and a fan base that you would hope would be great but just inevitably thought that they were never going to have a fair shake with the ownership in which they had

and the agreement with the town in which they had. The arena was a minor league type arena. It was a college arena, actually. So now that team just gets bought, sent to Utah. With friend of the program, Ryan Smith and his entire sports group, who are also the owners of the Utah Jazz. Ryan Smith, this morning, we got a chance

to catch up with. He had a backpack on and he was loading his kids into his car to drive them to school. He's a self-made billionaire who dropped out of high school, turned his stuff around, sold his first company for a billion, another company for a billion, and he is nowhere near old.

This man is a young American dream story who now has a team in the NHL and the NBA. Hey, good on you, Ryan. Good on you, Ryan. Good on you, Ryan. And that tweet right there says 11,000 and counting people registering for season tickets for the Utah hockey team that does not have a name yet. Quakers, maybe. That's what you're saying.

I'm not saying Soakers. I'm not saying it. That's a good idea. But there's a lot of other names that are phenomenal. Like, there's phenomenal names that could come out of Utah. And there's already people talking about, you know, the old team Grizz. You know, they used to have Big Bear logo. It's awesome. And there's people, I think, that know, the old team Grizz, you know, they used to have Big Bear logo. It was awesome.

And there's people, I think, that said, like, maybe the Yeti. You know, like that. Yeah, and the Yeti's an awesome thing. There's a lot of different potential names that they're going to have to figure out and deal with. He said 20,000 as of this morning. Damn. Sorry, what?

20,000 people? 20,000 people have tried to register to get season tickets over there in Utah. They couldn't fill an arena with 5,000 people? 20,000 people have tried to register to get season tickets over there in Utah. They couldn't fill an arena with 5,000 people. 5,000-person arena is the smallest arena in any professional sport that there is in the United States of America that is considered a good league. They couldn't fill it up every single night. They got 20,000 people in Utah saying, hey, we'd like to be in there. Go tomorrow.

And that's kind of what Ryan Smith was selling. Whenever we chatted with him, whenever we went out there, he was like, these people love sport. We hosted an Olympic. They show up. It is a massive thing. Hospitality is a real deal. They love hockey out here. It's like if we were to get a team out there, we think we'd be a good host.

And within 12 hours of it being announced, they basically already sold out the entire thing with season tickets. Yeah, absurd. already sold out the entire thing with season tickets. Yeah, absurd. So I think the current arena has 16,240 seats will be available for hockey, and they debuted what it could look like nowhere near a finished project. But them saying, hey, this is what it could be, I think they're going to remodel to get it to 17,000.

Smart. So with 20,000 and then 17,000, obviously there's a little bit of a disparity there. They're going to reach out, find like partial seats. I mean, the place is going to be packed. Yeah. The place is going to be packed out there. The NHL has to be incredibly pumped.

I believe next week there's a, I think there's a press conference happening today. And the next week, like, hey, good on you, Ryan. Incredible. Good for hockey. Good for hockey. Because that barn is going to be a loud one. We were at the Utah Jazz game. The place is electrifying.

Packed out, too. And Ryan Smith is an owner who's like, yeah, we're not bored either. You know, everybody talks about Balmer toilets on the sideline, and we want people to go bananas in the NBA for the Clippers. It's like Smith's the same thing. There is not a single moment where it's like you're not being – we understand this is a show. We understand you're coming out for a night. I'm excited to see what he does.

I think we'll be talking to him on Monday. Nice. Yeah, I think he'll be coming on the show on Monday. Perfect. Yeah, but we'll have Biz on in about five minutes or so to chit-chat because he's Phoenix legend, obviously. Coyote's legend. I do believe he got a little bit of emotional whenever he was addressing it

for the first time after the team was sold. And I think there was a lot of fans. You know, they're loyal fans. We're obviously bummed out about it. There was a skater, a nice C coyote member who was waving a flag, crying. Then you got salespeople, front office people, ticketing people. I mean, there's so many people that go into that. Sad.

The company's been very sad. Biz will talk about that. And also, hockey's set up for its playoffs. You need to watch the playoffs. Hockey is awesome can't wait for that also paul skeens here what wow today the flamethrower today paul skeens yeah pitcher pitcher with the mustache yeah and and the host yeah the rocket arms yeah the host he's got that one yeah i forget what the stat was last night but it was like some percentage of his pitches are

all over 100 miles an hour and it's hiring anybody up there it is boom most harm our pitches this guy's just throwing absolute gas here in indianapolis for the triple a affiliate for the pittsburgh pirates he's a national champion with lsu obviously we know his story he's going to be in here and last night he saw it down just like the entire side yeah i mean it's just boom boom boom he's going to be a here. And last night he saw it down just like the entire side. Pretty usual. Let's go. Yeah, I mean, it's just boom, boom, boom. He's going to be a Pittsburgh Pirate soon.

He's part of the Hundo boys. We had Randy Johnson on yesterday. We had Jet Passon on. We had CeCe Sabathia on. Now we've got a AAA pitcher on. We're a baseball program. Do we like baseball? Yeah, I love the conversations.

It's not baseball. We like the players. Okay. Yeah, we do. We enjoy it. We've enjoyed the community. And also, it feels like baseball, and this do we enjoy we've enjoyed the uh community and also it feels like baseball and this is me speaking not from experience long season a lot of travel i think a lot of potential baseball people do watch our program for sure even though we don't talk because

they're on the road a lot on their phones on their ipads i think there is a big baseball community and we like to say hey i don't know how people watch full, but I love watching you guys do your thing when you do it. I love watching it. Hour 49 minutes, so you're starting to scratch me where I am. I know baseball purists don't love it, but we'll ask Paul Skeens his thoughts on all of it because he's a pitcher that throws hard. We got the elbow stuff going on in baseball.

We got the pitch clock stuff going on in baseball. We got the baseballs going on in baseball right now. Can't wait to chit-chat with him and see where he's headed. Then we'll also have Mad Mel Kuyper on today. And Donnie Don Don will be live from the room. Obviously, A.J. Hawk and also the whole time, the Toxic Table, at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. A nice little montage of all the greats there on your chest today.

Yeah, this is actually the Kalen Ursae shirt. That's good. I didn't know this is what it looked like because when I got the gift, like I said, I was pissed off. I just kind of threw it in my washer. Kaylin Ursae is the owner of the Indianapolis Colts who was on our program whenever we were down at the annual meetings. Obviously, we know her from being in Indy. She sent a gift

to New England Patriots superfan an outright rude man. For sure. I bought the Indianapolis Colts sometime. A rude boy, if you will. She sent you a birthday gift, and it was a beautiful – that's a great shirt. Great shirt, yeah, yeah. I'm very pleased with it.

I mean, I love the montage shirts. I think those are the best shirts. So this does kind of jump into the power rankings pretty quickly here. But, no, it's a very nice thing. I'm glad to be able to wear it on a feel-good Friday that's stacked to the gills. Yeah, it is stacked to the gills. Just like that shirt. Yeah, a little bit.

It really is. You can kind of see how much ink is on that particular one. That's what normally is on. There's levels to this. Yeah, there is. For sure. Ty, Matt and Mel Kuyper's on the show. You guys going to be able to keep it civil or what?

I mean, we'll see. I'm going to try. Hey, it's never me. True. You know, it's never me who has issue with anything. It's usually him. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to see. Hey, we're getting close to the draft here.

We've been talking about this for how long we get all these big boards coming out. It's unbelievable that the draft is less than a week away. Six days until we'll see some dreams come true. We'll see some fans get pumped and some fans boo. It should be a blast for me and you.

Now, one half of the hammer. Cowboys, Tone Diggs is here. Tone, great fit today. Thank you. You know that. Got cowboy boots on. I mean, the guy's really doing it. Wow.

I mean, the guy is absolutely doing it right now. Big news in the sports gambling world. No, not the guy getting banned. No. Okay. Not the interpreter stealing $16 million. No. With $24 million more on the way.

Not any of that. No, no, no. What we're talking about is odds moving quickly drastically one week out from the nfl draft for the number two overall pick this comes after the 20 person top 30 visit to the washington commanders with top golf and hangouts and meetings and sessions and jayden Daniels' agent going, huh, whenever it was announced about, this is not how it normally goes. How much one-on-one time do guys get? And then the books react in this fashion.

Who's talking to them? What do they know? And what does this mean to normally whenever something like this happens in the past? I think it was earlier this week when we did the Jaden Daniels and Drake May odd movement. And it was the other way where it was like, oh, Daniels guaranteed to two. And we could see why because it was shepter said hey you could you could get that jayden daniels jersey and it was also shrugs put out his mock and he had daniels going at number two so you kind of understood why that movement went for daniels at number two but

last night late last night drake may like those odds that's not a small move that's a that's over a two dollar move for drake May potentially go in number two. Now, Jaden Daniels still the favorite, but Drake May basically the same odds. And then you look at the tea leaves. You've got to find the scuttlebutt on why. And there's some scuttlebutt out there going around where – because Shrakes kind of dropped a little bit yesterday that said, hey, maybe Jaden Daniels doesn't want to go to the Commanders.

And then Florio, I think this morning, kind of said the same thing. So I don't know if that's the reason why they're moving or the agent. But the only reason I can think of right now that's out there, because we know the same as the sports books, or people say they know the same as the sports books, is that Jane Daniels potentially doesn't want to go to the Commanders. That could be all bullshit. It's probably all bullshit.

A lot of this stuff is all bullshit right before the draft happens. But Bill told us the closer you get, the more real it feels. And if you're playing on the bullshit, your odds just got a lot better just to take Jaden Daniels at number two. Well, and also, Gumpy, I saw you tweet last night about a safe bet right now as these books are moving on the draft, pal.

Yeah, I'm all in on Drake May at three. I mean, Schefter's pretty dialed in with the commanders. So if Jaden Daniels is allegedly, with all the potential bullshit that's being spewed right now, is telling the commanders that they don't want it, they don't want it, then you would assume that it's Drake May going to,

you would think, or somebody else, I guess. That only is the only thing that kind of throws a wrench in the entire thing. Yeah, it's either a big swing and you miss or a big swing and you hit, because two and three, you're getting Drake May and Jaden Daniels either way.

What happens if... Michael Penix? Oh, yeah. I would love it. I've been gassing Penix up. I don't know. He's minus 130 to go in the first round. That is free money.

How does Penix get out of the first? What did he run? What did he run? Like a 4-4? 4-8. And the thing is, while he's injured, it's like, injuries are cool. Dude just ran 4-4. He ran.

His legs are better than a lot of people's legs. Actually, the surgeries might have made him faster, stronger, and everything in it. And then the amount of football that he's played, the accuracy that he has, and the pro style of building that Kalen DeBoer runs, it's like, that guy feels like he's ready-made. But I'm not saying he should be getting drafted above anybody. But if that was to happen, that be like just like the trey lance mac jones situation a couple years back where things come out of nowhere and that's why the draft is so beautiful yeah legitimately

because we have no idea all you need is one billionaire to be like nah that's what i want and we have seen so many cases of that in the past, and there's a chance it could take place on Thursday. And if this is the case for like Jaden Daniels is saying, hey, I don't want to go to the commies. I'm not playing for them. You got to love that. Got to respect it. But also, that might open the door again for the number two

pick being traded. Like the talk before from Daniel Jeremiah, I mean, this is last month in March. He said, yeah, if I'm looking at a team to trade, probably not at three. Patriots are probably going to stay, but the Commanders are the team you could look at as a possible trade candidate. So if Jaden

Daniels is their guy and they don't love anybody else, does that open the door for a, hey, Antonio Pierce, everyone knows you need a quarterback and you love Jaden Daniels. Why don't you just send over Devontae Adams and three first-round picks and you can come up to two and take your guy and have your quarterback of the future. Could you imagine that trade taking place on Thursday night with Bill there?

Kind of. It would be Devontae on the move. It would be a huge swing. Nuts. And then any time people have leveraged the future of their team on a draft pick, has it worked do we remember any of those working uh in recent memory no that's what i'm saying yeah recent history definitely not so if somebody was to do that i would assume the analytics and stats

and a lot of people would be telling them this is not necessarily the best move for the future but josh josh allen's situation with brandon bean brandon bean said the combine yeah we traded up to get josh allen and some people said we gave up too much but if josh allen's uh goes on to be what we think he's going to be nobody will care and if he's not we'll get fired yeah so that is that is how this whole thing goes and that's the type of investment that you could potentially risk on the first round of the draft and with the raiders you could almost argue like all that stuff is kind of a moot point because you're in the division with Patrick Mahomes. So if you think Jaden Daniels

could be your franchise quarterback for the next 15 years, then is it really that big of a deal if you have to give up three first round draft picks? If you're going to get a guy that can actually maybe get you eye level with the Chiefs, then you do what you got to do because otherwise you're kind of just in this limbo where

it's like, hey, if we have a great season, we're probably still playing for second place in the division, and then we still have to go through the Chiefs in the playoffs anyway. I'll be excited to see how it changes over the weekend, more people chit-chatting with each other, more happy hours potentially taking place, more text messages, more emails, more scratch my back, I'll scratch your back. Quid pro quo. Yeah, of course.

It's going to be taking place with information over the next few days. Excited how the draft odds change. But remember, the draft books don't have an advantage on us with the draft. No, they don't. The sports books don't have an advantage on us with the draft. They know just as much as we know. And if they know something more, it's illegal. Yeah, bingo.

And it can't. Take them to jail. Forever. Immediately. Like the court storms. That's right. That was back in, yep. right. That was back in... That was back in

before March Madness, college basketball. Remember that guy broke his... Yeah, Filipowski. Still played in the tournament somehow. It was weird. Yeah, but a week later, he did the thing. That's why, if you're a Bucs fan, Giannis could come back. You never know. Exactly. We watched Filipowski take a freight train to a knee, get carried

off a court, and then one week later windmill dunking. Basketball players are built different. We need to remember that. Joining us now is also a man who's been built different. Not only is he one of the most entertaining and electrifying humans of all time, one of the greatest hockey players ever. Hell yeah. Oh, sure. People aren't ever going to say that about him in the

hockey world. Why? Because he wasn't Waino? Because he wasn't Sidney Crosby? He was a pro for 30 years. Have a little bit of respect, ladies and gentlemen, from TNT and the Spittin' Chicklets podcast brought to you by Barstool Sports. Biz Nasty. Paul Biznett.

What's up, buddy? Great to see you. Hey, best grocery stick of all time. Oh, is that right? Is that the proper title? Yeah, it's the guy who used to separate the D and the forwards on the bench and just kind of sit there and make sure he manned the entire game.

That's what I'm labeled as. The greatest grocery stick of all time. God, you were so good, though. Filthy. Think about the vibes. The vibes that you're bringing to both sides. I mean, the glue. That's the actual glue. You're the greatest glue in the history of a hockey bench. Okay.

Wow. That's what I heard. Glue guy. Gorilla glue. That's what we like to talk about. I saw you get a little bit emotional the other night. Let's dive right into it. This didn't feel like something that was, you know,

known by a lot of people as it was happening, and then it gets dropped overnight. It had been rumored and lingered about potentially Utah getting involved with an NHL team and when Ryan Smith was out here, he was like there is a lot that has to happen. Before that, didn't know if it was going to be expansion, like when's the next time they expand because NHL

expansion always does well seemingly for the team and the city with the way they set it up with the draft and everything. This is just an outright purchase. See you later. You're out of town. Emotional last evening obviously we watched with the ticketing and sales and coaches and draft and everything. This is just an outright purchase. See you later. You're out of town. Emotional last evening, obviously, we watched with the ticketing and sales and coaches and players and everything like that. But alumni, I assume, how are you feeling with the relocation of the Phoenix Coyotes? And what does this mean for the future of the NHL, you think? How does this work out? Brutal for Phoenix and Arizona area, for all its hockey fans. You know, I've been there for a long time,

and not only on the playing side, but the media side. So to say that it kind of happened overnight, I guess that would be a true statement in the sense that I didn't think it was going to happen this soon. I think that people were aware that at the deadline this summer, if they weren't going to win the land auction as far as building a new arena, it just wasn't going to be sustainable in playing out of the mullet in Tempe, which is a college rink, right?

There's 5,000 people. So as far as it going to Ryan Smith, I think he's going to be an incredible owner. I think the reason it was kept hush-hush is Gary doesn't really like a lot of this stuff becoming public knowledge. He wants it all under wraps, all controlled until eventually a decision is going to be made. So Ryan Smith, obviously the classy guy that he is, wasn't speaking very publicly about this, but ultimately wanted to bring a team to Utah. He's an incredible sports owner in the NBA, and I think he's got a lot of bright, amazing ideas and how to also grow it from a hockey community sense.

And I know people are maybe a little bit critical of the size of the market and everybody gets very numbers focused when it comes to markets. But I think he's ensured us and even even with the amount of season tickets already sold or people with the deposits down ensures that there is going to be local support there. But just going back to the Coyotes situation, it just sucks because of all the amazing people that I got to be around and work with there. I do feel like they were blindsided in how soon this happened. Not saying they were aware that there was potential that it was going to happen, but I do hope that they do eventually get a team back because I do think that hockey will work in the desert.

I don't know if it'll work with the former owners that have just now moved the team and still kind of hold the rights if they want to bring one back. Yeah, that's what I saw. Five years they have. And I believe the statement said we are committed to this community and to building a first class sports arena and entertainment district without seeking financial support from the public. End up in what the NHL and everybody's been looking for for like five, ten years seemingly. End up in kind of the thing. So how much longer? What is it? Because the quote, I think I saw the tweet, the narrative being sent before or above the actual quote was like,

Owner is committed to bringing team back. It's like, and then you read it, it's like, where was this for like the last five, six years? You know, isn't this like too little too late? And this guy then five years, he's the only one that can get a team back in there or can some biz nasty team up with some VC firm and be able to buy those?

Like, how does that work? Legit, because what I've learned- I better be starting to sell a little bit more vodka. If I want to think about a sports team, um, yeah, I, I truly believe that he wants to bring a team back. And I think that he wanted to make it work when he, uh, purchased the team. I think he did sell for about, let's say 300 million in that range. Right.

So a great bargain. Um, I don't think it was going to work in Glendale. The commute's too much. People in that area maybe don't have the disposable income that people, let's say, in North Scottsdale and Tempe and other areas of Arizona. PV!

What's that? Paradise Valley, I think. Is that what it's called? PV? Yeah, PV. Yeah, PV's beautiful. But like, yeah, so that whole area, anything close to that, people have the money in order to have disposable income to go watch sports. Now, as far as the arena lease in Glendale, it just wasn't working out. So they decided to move over to Tempe for the short period of time. Now, I think that when they were trying to secure the other land there in Tempe to eventually build this whole project that they had planned, they thought that they were going to win the votes outright.

But people in the city were pushing back on it. They put their forces behind it to basically say, we don't want this here. We don't want you to use taxpayers' dollars in order to build it even though that i believe that that wasn't the case and a lot of it was going to be funded by morello um they completely like they didn't go into the the situation being serious about it they didn't spend enough money to advertise at the fact that what they actually wanted to do so not taking it seriously they they ended up voting against it so all of a sudden they try to shift to buying land in North Scottsdale. It's getting jammed up. And on top of all that, with the business dealings that have been going around in the area and the

word that has gotten around about this ownership group, there's a lack of trust that they'll even execute it and get it done. Now you can make of that what you will, but from, I've never been personally wrong by the, by the Merlots. I worked for the team and then slowly didn't because of certain reasons and talking to people that I trust in the organization

at the fact that bills were sometimes going unpaid. They had issues with hotel bills when they were going on the road that hadn't been paid for a while where the league had to step in. In the NHL? Just really petty stuff. Exactly. To where it's like, how is somebody going to take somebody seriously who's doing things like that

and then dragging out bill process then offering three quarters or half of what the amount was agreed upon originally. So like I said, the trust has slowly been lost where now all of a sudden it got to a situation where they're saying, this isn't going to get done anytime soon. Let's do what's

right for the league. Let's get an NHL team to where people are going to want it with an owner who's going to be incredible and support and get fan support. Get that figured out and then still give this guy the opportunity in five years to eventually potentially execute this. But I personally believe

and Pat, you know as much as anyone, the sports business is about the people. If you're in it to make money, in which you probably will eventually, if that's your main goal, I don't think it's going to end up working in the end. So they need to completely repair their image in that community if they have any hopes of actually executing this in the next five years that's my personal opinion well thank you very much for clarifying all that i mean though bills unpaid that sounds like usfl stuff yeah you know like that that like hotel like

that's amateur stuff and i assume the league office was like this is not what our league is you know but now let's talk about hockey community a little bit how do they feel about this are they pumped because like ryan smith we've only i mean i feel like we know him pretty good i feel like we've hung out with him numerous times we know him pretty well he's gonna invent like he's gonna go all in here he is gonna spend and he is gonna commit and he's gonna hire and he's gonna he's one of those like he's a psycho this guy is a business psycho, you know? He's built different. Yeah, he's built different. Like, he's going to go.

That is what he's going to do, all the while trying to make it the best. Is the hockey community happy about the move to Utah? Is the hockey community as a whole? I mean, I don't know. Obviously, the people in Phoenix that just lost their jobs aren't going to be necessarily the most pumped people. I don't think they're mad at Ryan Smith, but the whole situation. But hockey community as a whole.

Are we happy about the move to Utah and the energy and the freshness for hockey? Yeah, I mean, personally, I just want strong ownership. I think it's been mixed opinions online for the one that I said earlier and the fact people maybe doubt it based on the number and the population there.

Ryan Smith will ensure you that it's about the support. It has nothing to do with the overall number. And he even said, I believe that they draw a little bit better in Utah, even from the NBA perspective than they do in with the Phoenix suns. So even that will tell you, and I don't know where they are exactly in the standings,

but with good support and him wanting to put his own money and resources into building that new arena and new area, I think that they're going to get tons of fan support. And I think it's going to be a first-class organization with a lot of forward thinking. Like this guy is 10 steps ahead of the next guy. He's a brilliant mind. And the fact that he's going to have both teams there out of the same building, I do think it's going to have that community support,

and I think it is going to be successful. The only thing they've got to worry about is naming the team. Yeah, which I think there's already – I mean, there's been a few thrown out there. Have you heard about a couple of these names? Yeah, Colby Armstrong, a guy involved with us, the Salt Lake City Soakers, and I know you guys know what the term Soakers is. They're not big thrusters there. No, well, well, well.

Premarital sex is a big issue there. Have you heard about the quaking? Mm-hmm. Have you heard about the quaking? No, no. Please describe. Oh, well, you bunk, Betsy. You're way behind.

Excuse me. We were out of Utah this past fall, and we learned a lot. We were there. We went to a jazz game. We got a chance to really mingle. So soaking is old news. Soaking is the older generation. Yeah, you guys want to accidentally lay inside of each other, do your thing.

The younger generation now, what they do is bunk beds. Okay? We're soaking on the top. Cow girl. Yeah. Cow girl, I believe. And then underneath, buddy, lad, kicking.

Quaking it up, Matt. That's how they're cheating it. That's how they're cheating it. There's no movement up top. It's coming from a Sibian-style leg kick from the bottom. Much like Howard Stern. Bingo, yeah. And it depends. Yeah, smart. Hey,

smart. Necessity is the father and mother bingo yeah and it depends yeah smart he's hey smart you know necessity is the father and mother of ingenuity and I don't know who the first donkey was underneath that was kicking or horse that was doing the kicking but you find a good you find a good lad I think you're probably linking up for the rest of your life

well they gotta have quads like you you need a bunk make like you the one who can kick a football 50 60 yards every time. No questions asked. So I did think there was probably good business for me to be had if I would have went to school out there. High price. I think I would have been an okay Quaker. This guy's the best Quaker in town.

My rates would be going up. Oh, man. Oh, my God. Is there like a rotation aspect where like now the other guy moves to the bottom and helps you out? I assume there's a little teammate. For me, I'd be a hired Quake. So I'll come to your bunk. I'll come to your bunk.

I don't want you coming to mine. It's road games. I'd be going to everybody else's. We call that an odd man Russian hockey. Two on one, no back checkers. Bingo. Anyways. Got to move the legs, feed the wolf.

All right. Let's continue with some hockey talk. And I don't know if they're going to name the team the Soakers or the Quakers. They might, though. Maybe. It has to be on the board. It should. It has to be on the board, I assume.

Ryan Smith, not the biggest fan of us. No, he's not. Every time he's come on our show, first seven to ten minutes are, has there been any innovations in the Quake game? You know? And then he's like, oh show, first seven to ten minutes are, has there been any innovations in the Quake game? And then he's like, oh, stop, stop, stop. He doesn't talk to his people. FaceTimed him this morning, and he called us predictable, lame, and boring.

We did exactly what you said there about soaking in media. You guys are so predictable. In new material. As predictable as the sun coming up. This crew right here, Quaken, that's all you're going to say. He's awesome. We are big fans of his. I think it's going to do very well. Let's talk about hockey right now, though.

Playoffs have been set. Who do you like here? Who do we like? Are the Bruins going to do it? Are the Bruins going to be able to maybe win one here? No, they're going to get smoked by the Leafs. My Toronto Maple Leafs, it's their year. It's their year.

They're going to go on a bit of a heater, and they're going to break it. Biz, don't be a mark, Biz. Don't do this, Biz. Don't be a mark now. We got Boston Connor over there. The old jock sniffer for the Bees. What was the last time the Maple Leafs beat the Bruins in a playoff series? Tell the people. I don't think

it's been since the 50s or 60s. Yeah, bingo. So what are you doing bumping your gums about that shitty team in Toronto beating the Boston Bruins? Don't be an asshole, okay? Well, we keep talking about being built different. I think they went and stocked up on some heavy, heavy bodies. They got the skill.

It's all going to be about producing through the pressure and through the punishment of the Boston Bruins. And you saw the last game. Even though the regular season didn't go well for the Toronto Maple Leafs against the Boston Bruins, it will go mighty fine come playoff time. We're going to reverse the curse Maple Leafs against the Boston Bruins, it will go mighty fine come playoff time. We're going to reverse the curse here, which is the Boston Bruins. In no world that is happening, my friend.

You saw what happened when Toronto played Boston, what Marci said. Oh, I'm coming for all of you. I'm coming for all of you. I'm taking all your heads off. You remember that bit? He's a killer. He's a killer. You don't have any of those.

And by the way, you're talking about big guys? Do you guys have the biggest son of a bitch in the NHL, the big rig Pat Maroon? No, you don't. The Bruins do. So, Oscar Matthews, Stephanie Gould, you're cute. What's he going to do when the big rigs of mitts are in his grill, biz? Huh? Then what?

You think Patty Maroon's going to shimmy shake Ryan Reed? Yeah, I do. I 1,000% do. The big rigs. He's like Mike Tyson. I want what you're smoking. I'm not smoking anything except for the Stanley Cup in June, bitch. How about that, dude?

And Stanley's Cup too, maybe. The whole thought of you cutting a promo at the edge of this stage with that wide shot, though. I mean, that was one of the most glorious moments we've had in some time. But, you know, Connor, actually, we bring PK on and hates the Bruins. He admitted, self-admitted, said, you know what, yeah, I don't want to talk about the Bruins because I hate them. Yeah, so. Well, he was a Montreal guy,

so that's just a built-in hardcore rivalry to begin with, so I can understand that. And also, I think he would get heckled pretty hard when he would go to Boston. So he's got some well-deserved hate for Bruins faith. Well, to be fair, PK, he was a slippery son of a bitch. PK played his own game. He played sometimes dirty. Some people would say sometimes he played a little soft.

He would flop, people would say. And you could make your own decisions on whether he was flopping or not. Check the tape. He flopped every single time. That's gamesmanship. They started calling him P.K. Slooban because he wouldn't mind giving the old little slew foot behind guys' legs

which, hey man, all's fair in love and war. You ever see the slew foot? It's a bit of a greasy play. Ask him why they call him P.K. Slooban next time he comes on. I'm going to call him right now. We'll see why they call him. Am I kicking the

right heel into the left or what's happening there? It doesn't matter what side you're on, but the minute you tap the back of the boot with a hockey skate on, the guy's going ass over teacup. That's... People started accusing him of doing a little bit too much of that later

in his career in a way to maybe keep up and pin in these young guys. But, hey, don't kill the messenger here. No, no, just P.K. Sluban. That's classic Sluban hockey. You know, let's go to the West. Obviously, we had a very civil conversation there about the East. What do you think about the West, Biz? So, I'm actually really liking Edmonton right now just based

on that first round matchup. They played LA the last two years and gave it to them. Dallas was my favorite probably coming in, but all of a sudden now, they're matched up against the Golden Knights, the Cap Circumcisors as I like to call them.

They put all these guys on the long-term IR in which you're allowed to add salaries so they go make all these's right. They put all these guys on the long-term IR, in which you're allowed to add salaries, so they go and make all these awesome trades. They end up bringing in Noah Hannafin, Thomas Hurdle, and then all of a sudden, the minute game one hits, all their guys are healthy again. Well, Tampa did this.

Let's not just judge your Golden Knights, pal. There's a lot of work. This is gamesmanship, just like slew band. Just like slew band. Just like slew band. Trying to win. I actually personally don't care. I'm just calling it out for what it is. I think that their GM and president are like the pinky in the brain. They're like Ryan Smith.

They're a few steps ahead, and they've been known to be cutthroat individuals. They're not exactly loyal. They care about winning. They care about now, and they want to add rings to their finger, and that's why they're cap circumcisers. They will do anything it takes to win, and now all of a sudden,

as the eighth seed and defending Stanley Cup champions, they're going against the Western Conference champs in the Dallas Stars, who, in my opinion, are the best-built team probably in all of playoffs. They have Ottinger, unbelievable goaltender.

They have great defense, who are mobile, big and solid. They have two first lines, and then they also got two guys on entry-level contracts, Wyatt Johnson and this Stankov, and we call him Stanky Leg. You do the Stanky Leg. These guys are

buzzing out there on the third line. So they're a well-oiled machine. And if gun to my head, I would have to pick the Dallas Stars to take it all down. Okay. The West or the whole thing? The West. And on the East, like I said, I'm going to be a homer. I'm going to go with my Leafs.

But outside of picking my Toronto Leafs, my dark horse would be the Carolina Hurricanes. Small market team, but they made a few big pickups at the deadline. They play man-on-man defense, and they are just, once again, a well-oiled machine of the East. Yeah, Gensel is a weapon. I can't believe you left Pittsburgh. That's not good news. Shout out to the Fenway Sports Group.

Yeah, that's great. It's funny, like Toronto, because in the first round, they're taking on a team that has a guy who has three cups. That's right. And you want to talk about a big rig who's going to get bodied, is what Biz said. Ladies and gentlemen, Patty Maroon. Boo!

What's up, boys? Hello, Mr. Patty Maroon. What's up, Biz? Hey, Patty. Patty Maroon. What's up, Biz? Hey, Patty. You tell me. No, no. Tell him, Maroon. Tell me what's up.

Tell him, Big Rick. Patty, there's no way you heard this. There's no way you heard this because you're in the middle of an actual run here and life and everything. Boston Connor and Biz just got into quite a dispute about, I believe the ending comment from Biz was, Patty Maroon will get dummied by Ryan Reeves. That's what he said. I believe that is what he said. That's sugarcoating it, too.

Listen to this asshole. He's going to pump your eyes shut. He's going to give you so many rights, you're begging for a left. How about it? Is that true, Patty? I'm just trying to do journalism here. Is that true? And why is Biz saying this?

I thought we were all on the same side here. Well, Biz is the Leafs fan. That's why. Yeah. And the only reason Biz is saying that is because Ryan Reeves pumped his eyes shut, too. I don't think. We all know Reeves is a tough guy, but whatever. It's about showing up, eh?

Boom. That's all it is. It's about showing up and getting in the action. How do you feel, Patty? How's the body? How's life? I feel good. Ready for another run here. We have obviously

another challenge ahead of us with Toronto. They're a good hockey team, so I'm looking forward to it, especially playing for Boston. Original six team. Really fucking looking forward to it. Sorry for that. Nah, it's okay. Don't worry about it. You got to do what you got to do, boys. You got to do what you got to do, boys. Connor has one last speech

to give to you, Patty, because I'll tell you what, he got pretty fired up about what Biz was saying earlier. Yeah, look, Big Rick, I know you weren't there last year, but what this team means to Boston, I can't put into words, to be completely honest with you. To say that the city needs this would be an understatement. I think the city is living and dying with this Boston Bruins team and getting you to join the squad.

And as the camera zooms out, you can see that pasta jersey. It doesn't say Pasternak. It says pasta because that's what we're going to need this offseason. Unfortunately, last playoffs we had to hang that banner as a memorial to the great season, the record-setting season last year that fell oh so short in the first round. And I don't think the city of Boston can handle that right now, Big Rig. So we're going to need you to maybe beat the shit out of 10 to 15 Maple Leafs

tonight. I mean, you can get what? You can get – how many minutes are there in a game? 60. So you can get 12 game misconducts. You can get 12 majors for fighting in one game. I believe that. That's good math.

That math. You won't even be seeing the ice. You can't even bend his knees anymore. That's good math. That math. You won't even be seeing the ice. Oh! He can't even bend his knees anymore. You skate like me. Oh! You're doing the chopstick dance out there on the fourth line. You can't even get in on the fourth line.

You're listening to this grocery stick over here. Hey, and you tell that midget Marshawn to keep his paws off Marner. You tell that midget Marshawn to keep his paws off myarner. You tell that midget, Sean, to keep his paws off my boy Marner. And if you even think about going next to Pablo on the ice, you better reconsider it, buddy, because I will come and find you on the streets

of Boston, and I will handle the business myself. What was the closest thing you came to a playoff game? I played in a playoff game. Did you even touch the ice in a playoff game? I played in a playoff game. Did you get a touchdown in a playoff game? I played one second against the Chicago Blackhawks. I got my strap-on on.

Way to go, man. I forgot to do my tie-down, and I fought Brandon Bollig, and my jersey came up, and then I got the gate. I played one second. One second. I got proof. I got the... Hey.

Hey, Pat McAfee. Good thing you came out of the game early. You're. I got proof. I got the... Hey. Hey, Pat McAfee. Good thing you came out of the game early. You're doing a good job. Bring up the game sheet and show them I played a second in a playoff game. All right. We believe you. How about that? We just believe that it happened.

And that was the greatest one second they said in the history of playoff hockey. Yep. That's what I'm saying. What we would like to say is thank you to you and the boys and the rest of the NHL for what's about to be an electrifying playoffs You're the man, cheers brother Thanks boys, thanks for having me Don't listen to Biz

Never, never, don't worry about that I appreciate the hell out of you too man Thank you for joining us today I love you boys, keep doing your thing What's our bet? What's our bet Boston?'s our bet, Boston? I mean, I don't know. You tell me because I'll wager anything.

I'll wager the farm. That's how confident I am. Let's do this. How about you guys do 10 public push-ups? So, like, you'll be able to text him mid-show. Say, hey, I need two push-ups. You got 10 of them. He'll be able to do the same to you, whether it's TNT or something like that.

Okay. All right. I like that. I like that. I like that. Ten public push-ups. It's a bet. All right, sweet. Ladies and gentlemen,

Biz Nastypul. All right, ladies and gentlemen, it was delayed by 10 minutes because, I mean, when you got... That was pretty sweet. Yelling at each other. Yeah. Full on.

Well, hello! Biz had no idea Patty was coming on. Shout out to Patty Maroon. Good work in the back there, ZD. Hitting him on. Well, hello! Yeah. Biz had no idea Patty was coming on. Shout out to Patty Maroon. Good work in the back there, ZD, hitting him up, getting him on the line.

That has become the new thing. I was talking to somebody this morning and I told him, I'm like, I'm a FaceTime person, not normally a call. And they're like,

yeah, you just do it in the middle of shows, right? Like, yeah, that's kind of our thing. You're not live, you're not live, you're not live.

Yeah, that's a big deal. You have to do that. Shout out to Patty Maroon and everybody else joining us. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, in the Thunderdome, is the future of baseball. The future of Pirates baseball. In the future of maybe watching umpires go,

Pirate! Pirate! Pirate! Pirate! Ladies and gentlemen, pitcher for the Indianapolis Indians. AAA affiliate of the Pittsburgh Pirates. That that's right national champion paul skee very long uncomfortable walking what's up dude hell yeah Thank you so much, man. Nice to meet you. Hey, nice to meet you, too. Yes, sir.

This is both for you. My man. You want to saddle up over there? Yeah, you can go around. Hey, boy, Paul. Holy shit. Hey, shoes. Big son of a bitch.

That's a big boy. Holy shit. You are a house, dude, huh? You're a house. You play football ever or only baseball? Just baseball. Okay, where are you from originally? Southern California.

Southern California. We just talked to Randy Johnson. Okay. So we talked to him yesterday. He's 6'10", and he was talking about how a part of his mindset when he was on there is, I'm going to try to make this as uncomfortable as possible at bat for the batters because he used to throw hard, high. You know, he used to go at people.

I assume that – are you similar in that nature? Because what you're doing right now, nobody else on earth is doing. They're talking about the amount of 100-mile-an-hour-plus pitches that are taking place across all baseball, not just AAA majors, everything like that. What is your mindset when you're up there, and how come you're able to throw the ball faster than everybody else on earth, do you think?

Yeah, I don't know about that one. You do? Yeah. No, I don't know how I do it. Have you always just been a rocket, even as a kid? No, not really. When did it develop? Last couple years, really.

I mean, just growing into my body and getting stronger and that kind of thing. I think that was the biggest thing. But I was like, when I was a junior in high school, I was probably throwing 86 miles an hour. Jeez. So it's happened recently. So you go to LSU, you go to Air Force, you go to LSU, you develop, you get stronger. And then we watch that run where you guys go in the national championship and your mustache and you were just like, awesome. And then we see the Pirates draft

you immediately. Is there a hesitation or a worry that when you go to the next level, you're not going to be able to do the same stuff? Or if you're throwing a hundred, you're throwing a hundred. It's different. And so that's something that I'm learning right now about, you know, just being in, obviously AAA is different than the big leagues, but AAA is also different than college. So just trying to figure that out a little bit. What is it, the batters or the ball or what is it? Honestly, all of it.

And like, you know, people talk about the five and six day rotations. Like everything is just a little bit different. It's nice that they're using wood bats, but, like, the hitters are better. The balls are, you know, smoother and, like, the seams are smaller, so it's kind of hard to throw. So just a bunch of, like, little adjustments that you kind of got to get to. Seems like you've been okay. Yeah.

We've been watching the stats. These stats are popping up on the internet, like, seemingly every single time you step in. Here's the most 100-mile-an-hour pitches thrown this year uh by you're the guy by I don't know it seems like only be 57 more than second uh which is okay yeah I guess that's pretty good with a sweet stash oh it's strong Pittsburgh by the way the perfect place to go with what you have on your upper lip just would like to let you know that low on the fact that you're just throwing absolute heat. Now, before Tone Diggs,

who's a big Pittsburgh Pirates fan, and Ty Schmidt, who's a massive baseball fan, have questions because we assume you're going to go on to do amazing things and we're going to be able to run this back like 10 years from now and be super pumped about it. We appreciate you doing this. Are you paying attention to what's going on in baseball and the pitching position? I assume you would have to. With the elbows

and the conversation about how these young kids are throwing a hundred and some pitches at the age of nine which is potentially affecting them whenever they grow older do you think about all that stuff what are your thoughts on it because obviously you throw hard as shit is that something you have to monitor gauge and how do you kind of deal with it all yeah I mean like I said about like just growing into my body I think um you know part of it you know you got to be strong to throw hard in the first place. But like, and then in order to, you know, continue to throw hard, you have to be strong.

So I think that's like the biggest piece. It's just part of the game. It sucks, but it's just part of the game. And that's, you know, you can't go out there thinking about that. It really, it could happen, but that's not, you know, your job is to go out there and throw hard and get out. And then do whatever it takes between starts to go out there and continue to do that over the long season.

So you can get back out there. Yeah, it's part of the game. How about pitch clock? I love it. I really do. Okay, and you feel like you're forcing, you control the at-bat as opposed to the batter. Is that why you love it, or why exactly. Okay, and you feel like you're forcing, you control the at-bat as opposed to the batter. Is that why you love it or why exactly are you a fan of it? So, I mean, it's weird that when there's nobody on, the batter gets a timeout and we don't get a timeout.

That's kind of the weird piece that I don't understand. You're saying, what are we doing here? How come? A little bit. If you're making this fair, one for one here. Yeah. You get called for a balk, you try to do that. Well, yeah, the clock just keeps going.

That's bullshit. It's weird. Why are they against the pitchers? You thought it was a pitcher's game. Exactly. No, I love it. And they use it in college. It's a little bit less strictly enforced in college than it is here,

but it gets the game moving quickly. And bottom line, I think part of it is you have to train for it, you know, throughout the offseason and bullpens and everything like that. Like, it's part of the game. You know, you can – Do you feel like you're doing a little mental chess? For sure. And there are guys, for sure, that when you step in, like,

they don't like to be rushed or they don't like to, you know, wait. And, you know, those are the guys that you can rush or, you know, run out the pitch clock on, even out of the wind up like i kind of asked you about it earlier uh with the randy johnson question but i also asked you like four questions in a row because my brain got so excited which happens and i do apologize are we we're not scared to intimidate some batters or is it just it's me the ball in the strike zone that we're doing here like wait will you float one if somebody's crowding a little bit just to let them feel it a little bit?

Like, hey, this is 102 right now. This is what this could be for the next three pitches probably. Is there any of that in your game plan? And who decides that? Is it catcher? Who's calling? How does that whole thing work? Yeah, I mean, it's all of us, and it's reading the game.

It's nice to have a catcher that knows the game, and really, they're the ones that know what's going on best out of anybody, but yeah, going up and in is never a bad thing. Don't ask a question for your massive Pirates fan. Yeah, well, we are, I mean, Pirates fans are so excited for the future

with you and then the other hundo boy, Jared Jones, who's been incredible so far, but we can't wait anymore uh do you now you want to break some news today do you know when you're going up do you have any saying when you're going up is there a plan that you know and the team knows that you guys are not going to tell anybody on when you're going up are you going to break some news day or no i'll be honest guys you you know just about as well as i do uh when i'm going up so

you know we know more than you do about this particular ownership you know and it's it's changing it's changing from what we've been told which is good and how could you not the hundo boys is a i mean let's go and randy told us about um you know the analytics now guys don't really go complete games he won a hundred complete games in the majors or whatever, you know? And he said that was a big part of it. Like, yeah, I'm throwing the whole thing and they're talking about analytics. Say whenever somebody, you see a batter for the fourth time,

they're going to have a better opportunity to hit you. And he's like, who against me, who though? Like, who are these analytics? Is there a change in mindset about how long you go into the game? Because the overall idea is like, we need to last longer. You know, like maybe we have a 15-year career as opposed to a seven-year career is that the mindset of the modern day why there isn't as many complete games or what are your thoughts on it all yeah i haven't been here long enough in the majors i haven't been in pro ball long enough to really know that um i'd ask you how to work out you play you through full games i i threw one complete game there.

Yeah, I mean, but it was, you know, you talked about the 100-pitch thing. Like, I went, like, three or four weeks in a row last year of, like, throwing 120 pitches. Damn. So, I don't know. My body felt great while I was doing it, and I, you know, still think that's something I can do. But it's definitely different than it used to be. I didn't grow up watching randy johnson really but um how old are you 21 god so young

dude who'd you grow up watching pitcher was uh so i was an angels fan so jared weaver john lackey guys like that yeah have they been like hey man watching you just throw 102, 101, 102 for three pitch strikeout is awesome. Has anybody reached out to you? Like any of your heroes said like, we've seen a clip of what you're doing. It's cool. Or is baseball a bunch of hating assholes? No, it's not the second one. I don't know about.

I honestly don't know if they've reached out. I don't see a whole lot of that. What do you do? You isolate yourself? Yeah, as much as I can. No social media? No social that. What do you do? You isolate yourself? Yeah, as much as I can. No social media? No social media. So no social media?

Do we have a smartphone? Yeah, I do. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Do we have any hobbies? What is the hobby? Not really.

It's kind of baseball. That's awesome. Yeah, I mean, it is what it is. What do you listen to music-wise? Do you do... Country. All day? Who? Pretty much. Right now, it's Charles Wesley Godwin What do you listen to music-wise? Do you do... Country. All day. Who?

Pretty much. Right now, it's Charles Wesley Godwin and Shane Smith. It's a West Virginia guy. Wow. Charles. Let's go, dude. So, warming up, that's what you're listening to when you're working? That's what you're listening to, everything?

Depends. I mean, I was listening to an audio book when I was warming up yesterday. An audio book? It depends. You know the tickets went from $8 average yesterday to like $30 average down at the stadium because you're pitching. You're a needle mover in AAA, dude. People are paying more money to come watch you pitch here

around Indianapolis. It was on the news. They had it on the local news. Like, Paul Skeens is pitching and I don't know how many more of these we got. So if you want to get out there and do it, you've been great for this city. I know you're headed to Pittsburgh, which is obviously where we're from, but it's like you've been great here, too. You need to know that. We appreciate that. See ya.

Think about these AAA guys going, what is this bullshit? This is last night. Okay. How'd we do last night? We feel pretty good about what we were doing? Yeah, it was solid. That one's not getting called a strike without ABS. What do you mean? What's that? What are you talking about? Yeah, the automatic strike zone.

The robot? Do you hate it or not? Because we learned about this through JetPass and I think that some... Yeah, you tap your head, you review things. Yeah, so that's the challenge system. That's like the second half of the week. They're trying stuff out in AAA right now. So first three days of the week are

the robot umpire and then last three days of the week are challenge. Look at how big you are out there an intimidating force nice quads on the kid too gotta have a good base obviously talk about the strength there um i know you're gonna say you haven't been in pro ball long enough and all that shit because you're super humble i get it no social media what a wild thing yeah you should hear things they're saying about you it's all good yeah now might be the time to get in and then get out uh later but whenever you think about the automatic strike zone and the challenging and they're trying

shit in triple a to take it to the majors and i assume there might be some major league pitchers that uh are going to be pissed that you're even giving an answer because they're like why are they asking this guy but you're the one experiencing it right now do you like what is happening with the strike zone and how it's being called and i know you're not saying you should be the one deciding what happens at the majors but is the future of baseball look good with this particular thing from a pitcher's point of view yeah so i mean for me i really never hope i hope that the abs never gets to the major leagues um to be honest i just don't like because i was a catcher too like and uh if you can receive pitches that's you know job security for catchers so because i you know for

for the longest time i was hoping that i was going to be a major leaguer behind the plate. I didn't even think about the lack of importance. Me neither. That makes sense. I mean, that's a job back there, too. And the umpire. I mean, you get rid of an umpire. Angel Hernandez.

Yeah, get him out. You've never seen him, so you have obviously no opinion. That is just strictly ours and the Internet. That's a fascinating take. I don't think a lot of people are saying. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, definitely. You talked about growing into your body and not throwing this hard.

So when you get to this point, and obviously very evident that you're humble and whatever, but you're incredibly dominant. So at this point, are you focusing on pitches, crafting, developing new stuff? Are you working on mechanics and stuff like that? And also, when you do just have after start, after start, after start, you're striking out all these guys. Is it a little bit tough in your mind knowing like, hey, I should probably be in the bigs right now.

I feel like I'm ready, but you understand how it goes and you have to just continue to kind of go out there and do the same thing over and over again? Well, yeah. I mean, so the goal of being here for everybody, not just myself, is to be a big leaguer. And so whatever it takes to get ready to get big league hitters out is what I'm trying to accomplish right now. So that change is kind of outing to outing, throwing more changeups, more off speed,, mixing it in even though maybe we don't need to. Just to be ready.

Just to be ready to face big league hitters because I will need that. It's kind of like walking the line a little bit of what I need to accomplish to be ready whenever that day comes and also get these guys out right now. So we got a knuckleball coming in?

Probably not. Probably not. No shot? Come on. Could you imagine 102 into a knuckleball? Jeez. 58. You get that John Kruk all-star game situation every single night.

Connor's got a question for you, Paul. Yeah, so in Indy, have you been doing anything in Indianapolis, or are you just like, hey, this is a stopgap, baby. I don't need to go around. I can go to the zoo if I want, or are you just kind of, like you've said, just kind of locked in, staying at the house or condo or whatever you're doing? Yeah, I mean, I try to sleep as much as I can.

I did not know that they had a zoo until you just said that. Gee, it's right next to the stadium. Paul, it's right next to the –. Paul, it's right next to the... Paul! You can see it from the mound with how tall you are. Paul! If you just accidentally look over... I think your guys is...

I only said zoo because it's next to the stadium. You could probably see a chimpanzee doing its thing in the sky over there. Look for it one night. They'll be up in the... Literally right next to your... It's sweet. I like how dialed in you are, though. No, I mean... Incredible. Yeah, no, I'll look for it. I'll look for it tonight. All for one night. They'll be up in this literally right next to yours. It's sweet. I like how dialed in you are, though.

I'll look for it. I'll look for it tonight. All right, Paul. Enough. I haven't done a whole lot here. I'm going to try to go to a pastry game at some point. There you go. I like Indy. I will say that. I really do. Indy and Pittsburgh are similar.

Like the humans. Love it. I've spent a lot more time in Indy than I have in Pittsburgh. When you make your way to Pittsburgh, I think people are going to be uh pumped up to see you jack and you should just start googling uh zambeli firework shows okay i've never heard of that all you will you'll see i'm going to be a big part of after the game rudy subs yeah yeah rudy subs are great but zambeli fireworks come uh pirates down there at PNC Park after a win. It's like a big deal. It's like fireworks over the river with the city.

It's like a rage. You're going to provide a lot of Zambelli fireworks shows right there, pal. You're going to provide a lot of those to the city of Pittsburgh, and they are forever going to be thankful for it. Because when a Yinzer sees a Zambelli firework go off in the sky, it is six to midnight, pal. Okay, you need to know that. Love it. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you for this hat, too.

Young Bucks. I like that. I like the Young Bucks. Color kind of interesting, but I like the Young Bucks because we got the Hundo boys. Young Bucks is certainly better. Yeah. Especially for the entire.

Great. Good luck the rest of the way, and thank you for stopping by, man. Yeah, thank you. We got like 30 seconds to a hard hour out we can just walk off together okay it'll probably be cool just to walk off no they didn't really tell me anything hey i i got you though i can you want to sign yes please i got you yeah yeah my man how much do you squat i actually don't squat do you you don't do any weights no i do weights do weights. I split squat more than I... How much? Split squat.

How much split squat? I don't know. Probably... 1,600? Yeah. We'll say that. I like it. Sports!

I love it. I love sports. Me too. Sports are the greatest thing on Earth. Sports bring people together. Sports create great human beings and great moments and great situations. Football is the sport, obviously, that we are most closely tied to, but baseball has been wonderful to us all week.

Hockey has been fantastic as the playoffs kind of drop the buck and get started to be the best year ever. Now, the Penguins aren't involved, so that's probably going to be impossible, but who knows? If everything in front of us, it could be the greatest year of the NHL playoffs in history. The NFL, though, has a multiple-time Super Bowl champion who has changed the course of pop culture forever. This morning, if you had a wife or a girlfriend that you happen to live in the same house as, or, you know, I guess sheet crosses. Oh, yeah.

All demos. I don't have that. I still got it. If you're a single guy living in a two-bedroom apartment, if you just woke up this morning and all, you listened to a brand-new Taylor Swift album and two albums. Yeah.

Surprise! I'm touring the world, selling out every single stadium on earth. I'm in the middle of the most public relationship that sports has had in a long, long time. Remember, she was changing outcomes of NFL games and also writing two albums. An absolute workhorse. But if you listen to those songs and listen to some of the narratives football created the one Travis we're happy for you buddy that's so high school song it had to be so his boys get a shout out their activities they play they probably play Grand Theft Auto online oh yeah she's been there Boys get a full shout out there. I believe they're potentially

have smoked CBD. His dad gets a shout out. The impression of his dad, which obviously we've met through the New Heights podcast and getting to see him kind of operate is amazing. That's a beautiful thing. And then you hear what's said about

other dudes from other avenues. I'm thankful that Taylor Swift has met a football guy. Me too. Because I think what's coming in the next album is about to be the most, I found it. Yeah, just bangers after bangers. And I am so happy that because, you know, since the very beginning, we said these two might be perfect for each other.

Like actually might be perfect for each other. beginning, we said these two might be perfect for each other. Like, actually might be perfect for each other. Taylor Swift is a workhorse, beast, genius, you name it. Boom. High level. Travis Kelsey, same thing. But at a position where

he is not the most famous guy in the room. So being the guy who's with Taylor Swift is not a problem. Some of these other guys it feels like potentially they couldn't handle the shadow. Taking a backseat. Couldn't handle the shadow.

Travis, who cares? That's all Travis cares about. I'm incredibly pumped for both of them. Literally since day one of this, I've believed just from learning about Taylor Swift through Sam and that documentary and then knowing Travis, it's like wait a minute, I'm no matchmaker. But this feels like all the issues they both have had in the past relationships kind of get cured here if they're together.

Kind of simpatico. And we got a chance to hear that Netso High School song. So pumped this morning for football. It's a beautiful time. The Toxic Table is here. And congrats to Taylor, by the way. Yep, obviously. Great album.

time the toxic table is here and congrats to Taylor Bob yeah great out and I believe her and posty have the first ever female number one song before I don't know yeah she sells out every stadium she walks into so she's number one and everything if you if you ask us but congrats both of them seemingly being in a deep deep deep deep two greats in love that's good for society the toxic table is here at boston connor and at ty schmidt one half of the hammer dad cowboys turn digs is here and uh you know sometimes especially with uh this season around you have to bring in certain experts. You know, you have to you have to

go to the people who know more than you do. So without further ado, ladies and gentlemen, Mad Mel Kuyper.

You look like an asshole, Mad Mel. What the fuck is this? Okay? He's shitting me? You guys doing this to me, making me look like an asshole? He's trying to Siciliano me? Okay, this is bullshit. No.

All right? No, no, no. I don't want to hear it, okay? We're not in your room. We're not in your office. I didn't set this up. Okay, hey, listen. I've been at this a long time, Pat. All right hey, listen. I've been at this a long time, Pat.

You understand? I've been at it a long time. You think I'm going to make myself look like an asshole on national TV? I wasn't born yesterday, pal. Here we go. Look, I'll stand up. I'll be you. I'll move around and do all this happy bullshit. Does that make you happy? Is that alright? Jesus Christ.

I want you to be comfortable. I don't want this To steal It already happened I can see it right now All the clips going Hey look at Kuyper What is this guy 311

That is bullshit Biggest week of my life On the precipice Of the biggest week of my life And you're making me Look like an asshole Intentionally It wasn't me

All I do for you guys All I do for you guys It wasn't us It wasn't us It was you You said It had to be your people. All right, well, if that's the case, then I'm going to, you know, I got to find a producer

around here. I'm going to fucking smack him in the mouth because that's unacceptable, okay? A little goddamn respect. Seems like you're a little bit on edge, and obviously you did get embarrassed there to start. You looked tiny, didn't you? God, he looked bad. Yeah, bullshit.

It's bullshit. All right. Not tiny. All right. Hey, you're super tall. You're super tall. Thank you. I appreciate that. All right. Not tiny. All right. Hey, you're super tall. You're super tall. Thank you. I appreciate that.

Big boy. I don't want to keep pointing out things, but no tie today, missing a button. Yep. Well, Pat, you know, it's casual Friday. All right? It's casual Friday. I've been busting my ass for weeks on end now. Actually, I may have lost my glasses.

Not jacked up about that. Those are prescription glasses. I do need those outside of what I do here. And, yeah, so I look like Harry Carey with the glasses on, okay? Hey, Mel, how you doing? You look great. I look like an asshole, I understand, but it's Casual Friday. Don't need a tie.

I don't want to, you know, kind of ruin anything, but let's just say Mad Mel is going to be looking pretty dapper come Thursday. We can't wait to see that. We are less than a week away from the draft. What is the big news right now? You think, Matt Mel, where are you at right now in the whole process? My process is pretty much done. I'd say the biggest news, Pat, I've got to give you guys flowers.

The sperm whale, the big old whale. Bill Belichick is joining you guys' draft. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. You too, Matt Mel. You'll be there as well, obviously. Well, absolutely. So I'm excited. I know Bill mentioned on you guys' show the other day that at this point, a lot of NFL teams and general managers don't exactly know what they're doing yet. All due respect, I completely disagree okay the hay is in the barn hay is in the barn at this point we are you know just six days out from the nfl draft every single one of these teams knows exactly what they're gonna do know exactly what prospects they'd like to take in the first round

so uh so yeah you know i'm gonna try to be amicable with coach belichick obviously in the first round. So, yeah, you know, I'm going to try to be amicable with Coach Belichick. Obviously, in the past, I've had a thing or two that I've had to say about his draft process. Hey, maybe a reach here, maybe a reach there. You know, maybe I've given out a couple C-, D-+, draft grades. What? Yeah, well, you know, hey, it happens. Okay, I'm a professional just like he's a professional.

And I will try to be amicable as I can. But, again, I'd just like to remind everybody, I put out my draft board every single year. This is the 41st year in a row I've been doing this draft. Suffice to say, I'm the king at this shit. Everybody knows it. That's no secret. Bill's never had to put out his draft board before,

so maybe I'm looking forward to kind of chopping it up with him, talking shop, maybe giving him a pointer or two about how you do this media thing in terms of presenting your draft board to the masses. That's very kind of you, because you just called yourself the king of this shit, and he's the goat of this shit, so we've got a king and a goat on the same set.

Unreal. One self-proclaimed, one as everybody else says, but nonetheless, potentially... Connor's got a question for you, Matt Mel. Matt Mel, looking good. Honestly, the new glasses, I know you're bummed. They might work, okay, just so you know. Looking at that draft board, as you mentioned,

Jaden Daniels last night, some massive movement at the number two betting odds at ESPN bets. Obviously, yesterday, plus 240 for Drake May, and today he's minus 105. That is huge movement, Mel. What's going on there, do you think? Well, I'm not sure. I think teams get a little skittish the closer we get to the draft. Again, we're talking about

a franchise quarterback, CEO of your team, a guy who's going to lead you to the promised land. And I think one thing that these teams are really sick and tired of is you get an agent out here, you know, bumping his gums, flapping them around. Everyone would just like this guy to shut the fuck up, okay, and let it be about the player.

Understand he's maybe trying to do the best thing for Jaden Daniels, but at the end of the day, you know, he could be the guy who's forcing Jaden Daniels to kind of slide down a couple draft boards. Not having these issues with Drake May. Don't have some loudmouth jackass popping off saying, hey, my guy should be going here, my guy should be going there. My guy wants this, my guy wants that. You're not getting that with Drake May. Don't have some loudmouth jackass popping off saying, hey, my guy should be going here, my guy should be going there, my guy wants this, my guy wants that. You're not getting that with Drake May.

By all accounts, great guy, great teammate, great family. So that could be why you're seeing a little bit of line movement because Washington, you know, they may be getting cold feet. Well, Jaden Daniels' line moves big. Drake May's line moves big. What do they know is the question. Do they know more than Matt Mel? Absolutely not.

Absolutely not. But, you know, hey, Connor, respectfully, shut your goddamn mouth, okay? They do not know more than I do. We're six days before the draft, okay? Everyone wants to play this game, and that's fine, okay? That's fine. But let's just say this, okay? Don't get embarrassed, all right? Because there are pros of the pros when it comes to this i'm one of them

i know exactly what's going on what's going on with your dallas cowboys so is it melting because of how hot you have been this morning i mean it is hot as hell in here that that cowboys helmet other way my my apologies uh that cowboys helmet is actually uh roger stahlbach's okay from yeah so it's about 50 60 years old so it might be time to maybe get one of the you know revo speed revolution helmets one of the new helmets uh maybe a new shot we'll see uh yeah people are saying it's fake yeah no people are saying it's fake they're saying there's no way an actual helmet would ever melt like yeah all those helmets they're calling into question now yeah and the photo and the pennant the whole thing everybody's starting to call the computer photo and the pennant, the whole thing.

Everybody's starting to call it the computer. Look at the computer. Is that the original Apple? Maggie, I think? Yep, that's one of the old iMacs when Steve Jobs named after Lisa. Actually, it was Lisa, you know, named after his daughter, who he kind of treated like shit for about 30 years. And then at the very end, you know, it was like...

God, he's busy. Yeah, he's very busy, you know. Bad dad. Bad dad, terrible dad. But it all came around because, you know, if you remember, if you very busy bad dad terrible dad but but it all came around because you know if you remember if you watch the movie at the very end he said hey i'm gonna put a thousand songs in your pocket and she was she was kind of the inspiration for that so maybe he's not a bad dad oh that's a good point i don't know how many people are disputing uh hey mad now you know

more than us he remember to start this conversation today he he knew more than Bill Belichick. About draft boards. About draft boards. No, because Bill said that, well, yeah, that's what we're talking about. One and the same. Yeah, that's the draft. That's what we're all talking about here. So I appreciate that you just know more than everybody. 41 years doing drafts, though.

I mean, that's what's going to happen. Tone Diggs has a question for you, Mel. Yeah, Mr. Madd, one of the hot-button teams in this draft is the New York football Giants. I believe in your latest mock you had them taking a wide receiver, and that came out a little bit ago. Do you still have them taking a wide receiver at that position? Well, you know, this is one of those things that it's –

Daniel Jones has forced my hand here, okay? He has forced my hand. What? I said last week, you know, or last time I was on with you guys, hey, New York football giants, you know, Brian Dable, Joe Shane, they understand that their asses are in the jackpot right now. They need to win, and they need to win soon. Can Daniel Jones be that guy?

Well, that remains to be seen. And then we got the press conference. Okay? We got the press conference. Which one? You know which one. Okay? Daniel Jones, his eyes bugging out of his head like a goddamn goofball.

I mean. He's focused. Focused? Okay, sure, yeah, we can call this guy focused. He looks like a complete jackass. And I understand it's not easy deal with the New York media. They've basically said for years now, hey, this guy sucks. He turns the ball over all the time.

Yeah, every once in a while he'll have an 80-yard run, trip over his own feet, and then he'll end up kicking a field goal, not scoring a touchdown. But I mean, that's not an NFL quarterback. That's not a starting quarterback. That's not a guy who's going to win you a Super Bowl. So at this point, I would rather have the... I'm thinking the Giants are moving. I understand you guys had Peter Schrager on yesterday. He thinks that J.J. McCarthy potentially could be going thinking the Giants are moving. I understand you guys had Peter Schrager on yesterday. You know, he thinks J.J. McCarthy potentially could be going to the Giants. Any one of the guys in this draft pool is better than Daniel Jones, okay? I don't care who it is. Whoa.

You got that guy's eyes. That's a big statement. Huge. Hey, you know what? You want to be a franchise quarterback? You don't do that kind of shit in a press conference. Okay. You just don't.

Eyes bugging out of your head. Oh, geez, I don't know what's going on here. Can't have it. Can't win with it. Won't win with it. So I think the Giants, you know, I would guess John Morris saw that and basically, hey, boom. Red alert, okay? Dayball, Shane, figure it out. Get a quarterback in here. If we have to trade up

to two or three or wherever, you gotta do it because we're not going into next season with this guy and his goddamn eyes bursting out of their sockets. You can't do it. A lot of money going to Daniel Jones, so I think that adds into the conversation and obviously the judgment because whenever you get paid a certain amount to carry a team, if you don't, you're going to be judged by the likes of sports media,

let alone somebody who's looking at a draft staring down quarterbacks that he's been bopping to for at least three months now, four months in the entire process. Yeah, but Dan Jones, I mean, he won a playoff game in Minnesota, Matt. That's pretty good. Do you recall? Pretty good. You think I, oh, okay.

You know, what, do we want to kiss this guy's ass, throw him a birthday party for winning a playoff game? Well, a playoff party. Yeah. Maybe a playoff party. Are we trying to win playoff games? We try to win Super Bowls. You know, you think John Morrow's going to go back and say,

hey, hey, yeah, you beat the hell out of the Vikings, who under, or overachieved all season. You know, congratulations. Hey, Connor, do you remember what they did the game after that? I don't recall, actually. Yeah, I think it was like 38-0 at the end of the first quarter against the Eagles, and everyone was saying, oh, geez, maybe we were wrong.

Maybe Dan Jones is a piece of shit. Whoa! Hey, I didn't say it. I didn't say it. Well, you said we. We would imply. I know the pronouns. Well, yeah, I understand.

I'm talking New York media. I'm talking NFL media. I'm talking about people who study the game, you guys especially. I don't have the tape. I don't remember exactly what you said, but I don't think anyone was coming in the day after that Philadelphia Eagles playoff game saying, hey, Dan Jones, let's sign this guy to an extension. Let's give him another $150 million. I don't remember anyone saying that, Pat.

Well, it was overreaction Monday, I'd assume. And who knows what's said then, obviously. That is part of the problem of our show. And I guess the allure as well. And I know that this has not worked out well a couple different times now because, yep, you know what I'm doing? Yeah, sure do. Go ahead.

Hey, your show, not mine. Go ahead. Ty Schmidt has a question for you. Mad Mel, listen, I know we've had our differences, okay, but I do have a question that I'd love to get an answer from you on as we are, you know, right in front of the draft here. We had Peter Schrager on yesterday, and he was basically saying, hey, listen, Cooper DeGene,

although he has worked out unbelievably well, he seems to be healthy. A lot of teams said if he was healthy, then he's probably a top 15 pick. Schrager said that he looks at him more as like a 22 to 32 type of guy, maybe even a second round pick, which I think that's a little ridiculous being an Iowa guy and having seen him play for quite a bit.

What is your opinion on Cooper DeJean? Because I know you are somewhat high on him as well. Listen, I'm going to stop you there, okay? I'm going to stop you there. You're lucky that I'm even entertaining your question because, as everyone knows, I think you are a big bag of mashed-up asshole. Whoa! Whoa, whoa, come on.

Not everybody gets along. Not everybody needs to be buddies. And I can't stand you. But with that being said, I will entertain your question. Yeah, listen, I respect Peter Schrager. A lot of people respect Peter Schrager. Everyone knows his mock drafts are second to none. Well, I shouldn't say second to none.

Usually second to mine in terms of... I think Daniel Jeremiah was last year. Hey, DJ's a goat. We're not talking about... I'm just talking... This is mano-a-mano. Me and Schrager. DJ is obviously... DJ's a goat. You're the king. Yeah, bingo. We're all in the barnyard.

Okay, we're all in the barnyard. But I do... I'm the overseer. I do oversee the barnyard. The king's on top. Exactly, exactly. If I need to, you know, guys like Pete Traeger, like, you know, he could be the goat. I could slaughter him and, you know, feed his meat to my family for a nice dinner that night. But again, I love Traeger. I love Pete Traeger.

Everybody does. He's the king of New York, you know. I'm the king of this shit. He's the king of New York. We can all be kings or something. the king of New York. I'm the king of this shit. He's the king of New York.

We can all be kings of something. I do take umbrage and issue with all the slander that he was putting out. Cooper Jean, who, as everyone knows, one of my favorite prospects in this draft class. As of right now, I believe I have him slotted about number 17 of the Jacksonville Jaguars. What is there that has not been said that you can say again about this kid? He's explosive, unbelievable athlete. He's long. He's rangy.

Great open field tackler. Yeah, he's a white guy, okay? Are we going to hold that against him? I think you have in the past, don't you, Mel? We have. Has that been something? With Cooper DeGene? Maybe other white guys, sure. Yeah, you know, hey, this guy's not athletic enough.

He can't get it done at the next level. You know, didn't show me enough whether that be, you know, in big-time college football, Power 5 football, yeah, you know, hey, this guy's not athletic enough. He can't get it done at the next level. You know, didn't show me enough whether that be, you know, in big-time college football, Power 5 football, or, you know, smaller conference football. Cooper DeGene showed everything he needed to show at the Power 5 level, one of the toughest defenses in the history of college football at University of Iowa. Make no mistake about it, Cooper DeGene is the great white hope, okay?

He is the actual, well said. He is the great white hope. He is the actual. Well said. He is the prince who was promised. I believe, again, Traeger, maybe this guy is going to play safety. Pipe down, Pete. This guy is not playing safety. He has all the requisite skills and talent, ranginess, athleticism, burst, hip movement in order to be an outside cornerback.

This guy does not need to move into the box. He doesn't need to play safety. He doesn't need to play nickel. Could he do all those things? Sure, because I believe he's one of the best football players in this class. But at the same time, we're looking at a potential 20-year pro at the cornerback position. I see, I don't know, 15 to 18 Pro Bowls, maybe a couple defensive players of the year,

ultimately culminating with his bust being placed right in the center of Canton in the Football Hall of Fame. That's how I feel about Cooper and Gene. If you don't feel about that way as well, personally, I think you're a bit of a dipshit. You need to go back and look at the film a little bit more. Okay, we appreciate that, Matt. It sounds like there's a little bias-y there coming a bit of a dipshit. You need to go back and look at the film a little bit more. Okay, we appreciate that, Matt. It sounds like there's a little bias-y there coming.

Yeah, a little bit. That sounds like there's a little bit of an extra emotional. Yeah, I mean, you can call it bias-y. Sorry I watched the film. You're right. The film's doing all the talking. I'm just kind of regurgitating it, if you will. Speaking of the film, how happy are you that draft season is almost coming to an end end or do you just get started for the next or have you already started for the next

year what what is the the rollout of the next six days up to the draft and then after the draft what is mad mel kuiper getting into yeah so i'll take uh maybe a day or two oh no yeah listen i've had an issue with my sound guy for a couple years now. Oh, no. Already? I'm going to slap. Well, I don't know if it's my sound guy or if it's that son of a bitch. Oh, no. Wow. It happened.

He left his mic on the other week, too. Yeah, because when he left. When he left, yeah. We can still hear you. I don't know if you know that. If you watched it back, we could hear you when he stormed off camera. Sorry, not stormed. Walked off calmly a couple weeks ago well i'm just trying to this fucking thing okay every goddamn time i come on here i

try to you know pay you guys respect hey give you a couple good answers you know be a good guy be a good teammate and then an asshole my end i'm done i'm done fuck it fuck it fuck it oh no every time every fucking time this guy's laughing over here making me look like an asshole biggest week of my life oh hey hey Matt Bell that's hilarious hey let's

mute his mic let's make sure his mic cuts out I don't know Troy Let's make sure as Mike cuts out We can still hear you a little bit You can still hear me here's it Can't squeeze one. I don't want to shit, but I, but I'm going to put this shit up to my butt and fart in it. That's the show. Thank you, Mad Mel.

I love you, Mad Mel. I hope everything works out better for you, Mad Mel. We really do. See you next week. Oh, my God. What an incredible thing. Genuinely. Yeah. I'm so happy that it's draft week.

More about that sound guy, though. What sound guy? Chair guy? How about the tie guy? Oh, my God. Button guy. Button guy. Glasses guy.

Whoever's holding his glasses. All right. Let's dial. Hey, let's get serious. Yep. Okay. Let's dive in. Biggest week of his life.

It's the biggest week of his life, but also we still got to finish the show here. That's right. Good luck. He walked off. I'm professional. We won't do that. Never. But we are excited to see Mad Mel next Thursday alongside Bill Belichick, myself, A.J. Hawk,

D. Butch, Tone Diggs,iggs will be on his own set at Boston Corner. And it's a shame Ty has to go back to Iowa. Yeah, he's got something going on with the family, so he will not be able to make it. But it should be an absolute blast, and we thank Mad Mel for his contributions ahead of time because we do feel like Thursday night is probably going to be his best night. He disagreed with Bill Belichick immediately upon coming on the show today.

I couldn't believe that. Did not. If anything, I figured that would be the one person he might just take a look, maybe listen to, but I suppose not. That's just not a Mad Mel thing. He's been doing this 41 years too. We got to pay respect to that. Now, back to the program. Ladies and gentlemen, from Mad Mel to an Ohio president. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup

winner, a man who's the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. His service never works whenever Mad Mel comes on. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. What's that all about? Man, I wish I could connect sometime with Mad Mel, but I'm not sure I want to even jump into that fire.

I saw the exit right there. That was a bit scary for people behind the scenes. You guys talked about it a little bit. Yeah, the people that set up that camera were very rude to him, and we all knew that that was a potential. Sure. When his mic starts going out, I don't think any of us could have expected that,

and it really did. I mean, it ruffled his feathers a little bit. It did a lot. A little bit. Well, we saw what happened at the draft last year, too, dealing with those kind of issues. So, I mean, I get guys are professional, you know, just wants the stuff to work.

He comes on here, and we can't get it right. But we'll get it right. We'll get it right come Thursday, I'm sure. We'll be okay. We'll figure it out. AJ, it's great to see you on this feel-good Friday. Obviously, NHL playoffs have been set. NBA has got a couple of play-in games still to happen.

What's going on? I mean, the Heat, they even got anybody? Nope. They're screwed. And then the other game is... Of course, the Pelicans versus... Kings. Kings.

Sacramento. No Zion. That was Zion's health. Zion's out. He's out. Hammy? Hammy? I was talking to Sam the other night, and I'm like, that was everything Zion.

That was it right there. And then what happened was the entire thing happened. As he's taking over a game, winning a playoff game, a play-in game, the most important game against LeBron James. LeBron James! That's who Zion is taking. Zion, LeBron. Playoff, he goes for 40. Takes over the game. Just takes it over

whenever it mattered. And then he's hurt, and it's like he's gone. Now we don't see him. It's like that's kind of been the whole thing, which is a bummer. I'm bummed out for Zion and his entire family and team and obviously everything. Yeah, I was watching that game live when and his entire family and team and obviously everything. Yeah, I was watching that game live when I saw he took that one to end the first half when there was like 2.8 seconds or something.

And I'm thinking, oh, he's going to pass this thing up. Oh, he's going to stop and shoot from half court. Oh, no, he's just going to go all the way and make an unbelievable shot heading into halftime. How about in the fourth quarter whenever he was taking on the run? He had like looping. Yeah, his accuracy. how do you how do you stop that i don't know how you stop it and then he's able to you know he did an oop that

was just like it's he's it's it was everything we thought it could be it was exactly what we were expecting it was everything we thought it could be like wemby we're watching these highlights it's like okay wemby's everything that we thought it could be yeah zion same exact thing there for a matter of uh three and three quarters quarters yeah and the biggest game in all year he dialed in remember so i'm bummed out about i'm bummed out i'm bummed out the nfl though still cooking we're just six days away from the draft and that normally means that gms around the nfl have to talk to the to the media this is one of the mandatory times you You've got the combine, then you've got after the season, then you've got draft time.

Obviously, we need to hear you chat. Down there in Jacksonville, a man who is potentially getting run out of town by his own fan base, they showed up dressed as clowns because they thought the way he and the Kahn family was running the team was clown-like. Now they've got Doug Peterson, Trevor Lawrence, things are turning around. He's doing press conferences. He's more comfortable than any other GM in the history

of GM press conferences. Still got a couple of days going through. Coach and I haven't sat down and gone through the final board yet. That's awesome. Wow, so clean. So polite. So polite. What an adult. Let's run that back.

That was mid-sentence. At least he addressed it unlike that day in and day out. Exactly. He owned it. He pretty much owned it. Still got a couple of days going through. Coach and I haven't sat down and gone through the final board yet. That was a deep one.

The pause. That one went down and out. Acid reflux as it was happening. That one went down and out excuse me yeah what if someone would raise their hand excuse me was that a fart or was that like a burp kind of thing what was that was that something like you went to swallow it was a dry swallow deep down inside there kind of made a sound or was that was that your asshole that you just excused in the middle of your presser that would have been fantastic if somebody asked about it and what if this just becomes this

thing you know what i'm sick of i'm sick of hiding who I really am. Yeah. Yeah. I rip my pants. I'm a fart in every microphone. It's who I am. We got that guy down in New Orleans who has no idea that he's allowed to, you know,

not smack his gum while he's talking into a microphone. All right. That's day one. I hate the Saints because of that. Yeah, absolutely. Same. No doubt about it. I absolutely hate them.

Tom Mickey. I mean, I just had to watch the Saints win a Super Bowl against the Indianapolis Colts. True. Team that I knew pretty well on NFL Network. That's awesome. Watching those games. It was crazy. I forgot we had the lead going in the fourth quarter.

So maybe that's why. I'm a little resentful towards the New Orleans Saints, but no. I actually like the Saints. I like their fan base. I like the city. I like the colors. I like the fleur-de-lis. I like everything about the Saints. And then I hear Mickey Loomis talking on the microphone. I go, okay. Hate this team. Can't have that. If they

let this guy do this for how long and nobody told him, that's an accountability issue going on. For sure. There's some deeper stuff happening there happening there aj if you know what i'm talking about now let's go to another team in the nfl that is certainly ruffled some feathers with an agent oh no ruffled feathers with an agent the washington commander's new ownership new leadership new way of doing top 30 visits even though bill Belichick said he had done them by 12. They had 20 draft prospects in it one time. And there was a time earlier this week where Adam Schefter was telling the Trap or Dive podcast

that they can go ahead and get their Jaden Daniels jerseys. Now, this morning on GetUp, after the 20-person visit, which is normally just one-on-one, even though Bill Belichick said he's done them by 12 before. Normally just one-on-one, especially at number two overall pick, future of the franchise. This is what Adam Schefter had to relay from the Jaden Daniels team. Seemed to go over too well with the agent for Jaden Daniels, Ron Butler, who sounded off on social media last night that he didn't seem particularly

pleased with the process. I think Jaden Daniels thought it would be a visit with just him, meeting with the commanders. Many people think that Jaden Daniels will wind up being the number two overall pick, but the commanders essentially opened up the process. So, his agent's not happy. Uh-oh. Okay.

And then does this mean Jaden Daniels, is that why Drake May becomes the, all of a sudden his odds move for the number two? Because Ron Butler, the agent, is not happy with the way Adam Peters and the new ownership over in Washington decided to do the 30 visits before the draft. AJ, what are your thoughts on all the controversy potentially brewing in Washington?

Or is this all bullshit? Well, what is Mr. Butler saying? is he trying to say if they draft him we're not going to go there is that what he's trying to do because the team doesn't care if his agent is happy or not the team will take whoever they want to take oh my it's true could you fathom us on draft night and the draft attack there with Bill Belichick there and we have a Eli Manning situation. Yes. A John Elway situation. Hey, no, we're not going. Not for the number one pick.

Wasn't the top pick of the draft. No, no, no. Number two overall pick. I'm not going. Two. I'm not. Washington? They took us to Topgolf. I don't want to go to Topgolf.

I wanted to go to Lasertag. Damn it. It wasn't because it was Topgolf. Topgolf is a fantastic. We know that. Topgolf, I wanted to go to Lasertag. Damn it! It wasn't because it was Topgolf. Topgolf is a fantastic... We know that. Topgolf, you know... Oh, you think he was upset because it was Topgolf? Maybe he didn't golf. Maybe he felt like they were putting him in a weird situation because he's never golfed before.

Well, then they'd be trying to evaluate somebody, trying to figure something out, which is potentially a useful thing to have happen in the NFL if you're going to be a program quarterback. That's the spin that the commanders would give it. But what if he was watching? Drake May was just bombing balls. He's only this guy. He's the cock of the walk.

You put one off the back net, let alone you clear one. Remember Josh Allen? Oh, yeah. Josh Allen came down to a Topgolf down in Atlanta whenever we were doing a shoot down there with the zone at the Topgolf. He came down and put a ball out of the park and it was like, holy shit. I couldn't even imagine if you're Adam Peters

and a brand new Washington Commander's ownership and everybody's at Topgolf and maybe the new owner is just sitting right at one of the bays. Welcome. Need to see driver, nine, and seven. Need to see it. Let's see how this whole thing goes. Then you can go, hopefully mingle with the boys, get along with them,

because we will be judging you on whether or not the boys like you over here. If you're weird, standoffish, kind of arrogant, we're going to find out. So make sure you mingle well. But right now, we need to see that driver. Go ahead. Drake may just put two out. Yep. Just so you know that.

Jayden tops two. Snaps a club. If this was bowling, I would have just killed everybody. What are we even talking about here? I do wonder if that's the case or if it's because they feel like he maybe got disrespected and not having the full – because C.J. Stroud, we were told, with the Houston Texans number two overall pick last year, he came in and he talked to the entire front office.

He talked to the entire building. They were really – so maybe Ron Butler's like, this team isn't serious. This team isn't actually trying to set this up in the right way. But maybe the commanders have a lot more questions than people are giving them credit for. Maybe they are trying to do some new stuff and figure it out, but I don't like

whenever an agent is the story going into a draft. They're already trying to find enough shit on all these guys so they can drop them down the draft. Don't need the suit who's supposed to be making the money ruining everything, but this might be a plan to get him out of there and get him to a place he wants to be, so I guess we have to withhold

judgment at least for a little bit. Yeah, and agents should shut up, especially around rookies coming in to the NFL, but did he say something that I missed, or is it just that emoji tweet? I hope it's just that. If that's it, though,

is that that much that it can rattle this to this? Schefter reports it, though. Schefter said he sounded off. That's what I mean, and all he did was tweet the... So Schefter reporting that, though, means what do we think? It was more than just that. That he must have said something behind the scenes to the commies.

Yeah. And that was an opportunity. We saw publicly this. Right. And that was like justifying. Or he said something behind the scenes to Shefty. I mean, we know agents give insiders tons. That's their contact.

All the time. Yeah. That is part of the game. It's not like dirty. It's just how it goes. Bill Belichick actually said that, right? The other day? Yeah.

He said, I have never and I don't know anybody that's ever told an agent where they're gonna draft yep the guy at so whenever these agents are like yeah 10 top 10 you go ahead and bump that up he said bump that up around for whatever they say and also uh yeah we should generally should we just call adam schaefter let's do that let's call shy. Let's get to the bottom of this. Let's do some journalizing. Might as well. We had Matt Mulkyper on earlier breaking down his thoughts. Well, and Schefty, unfortunately for him,

he probably owes the city of Washington $250,000 for the amount of Jaden Daniels jerseys that have already been printed. Oh, boy. Yeah, somebody's got to put his feet to the fire about that, too. I mean, I'm thinking about doing it because I, myself, sitting at number three with a potential quarterback on the way, maybe I did something along those lines. You bought a jersey.

I might have. And now all of a sudden. Hey, think about the ripple effect, Shefty. Yeah. How about that? You're not just screwing over one city. New England, which is a region, it's a revolution region. It's not just a state.

We're talking about multiple states here that you're fucking over here. What's that about? Ladies and gentlemen, join. Oh, shit. I completely forgot. A little comfortable. Ladies and gentlemen, join us now. A senior NFL insider.

My first one. Two. For ESPN, a man who's potentially swinging sportsbook odds for draft picks as the days roll on. Six days out. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Schefter! Are you calling me a swinger, Pat? Are you calling me a swinger? I don't know what you're up to.

I don't know what you guys got going on. You do your thing. Swing dancing, maybe. You do look like you're potentially very agile on the dance floor. Swinger, with what goes on in your relationship, I don't know. Swinging draft odds, certainly doing that, though. Certainly doing that. So let's talk about this.

Why? What is swung the odds? I'm just curious. We don't know if it's you, but we do know that the odds have changed a little bit at the number two overall pick. Now, this comes from after you tell the trapper dive podcast you guys could buy your jayden daniels jerseys but hold on hold on can i can i correct something that's that's completely taken out of context okay okay okay completely taken out of context okay okay let me let me say i was on that podcast for i don't know 20 a half hour, and I couldn't have been more clear saying over and over that the signs point to Jaden Daniels at two.

It's tracking towards Jaden Daniels, but there's no decision. At the end, at the end of the whole podcast, as they're getting off, so we're going to see Jaden Daniels? I'm like, go buy your Jaden Daniels. And now that's a report. Like, and I told people to buy their Jaden. Like, that's not what I reported. I reported it's tracking towards Jaden Daniels, which it has been.

The signs point to Jaden Daniels, which they do. Okay. And the commanders are going through it after this week when, again, I think it's a situation where, from the outset, Jaden Daniels had an interest in being other places he just has now the interest is okay what do the commanders do about that do they like there have been plenty of players who want to play elsewhere and the teams don't care and they just do what they do or if there's a team that wants him i.e a team that used to essentially have a coach that worked him in college.

Then they have to trade for him. So what do they want to do? Okay, so hold on, though. So we would like to say we apologize for amplifying the one throwaway comment at the end. But you need to know, as Adam Schefter, you say something like that, it is going to swing some thoughts. Hundreds of thousands of dollars of jerseys are bought, and also in New England. How about that?

There's a bunch of jerseys bought. It's like, well, Jaden's going two. That means Drake's going three. This whole thing's got figured out. But that's the power you have. I still think that Jaden Daniels is the favorite to go number two. I still think that. What about the agent?

Is the agent just working to try to get him out of that pick or what do you think no we we saw the agent tweeted the other night essentially that he tweeted all these emoji signs and and i think what happened there let's be honest is that jayden daniels was not particularly enthralled to be included in a speed dating group of quarterbacks. I think that he thought it would be basically by himself. He thought he would be going in there. And then shortly before the visit, found out that Michael Penix Jr. is going in, Drake May is going in, J.J. McCarthy is going in. And so the dynamics change.

Again, I point to the Bears. The Bears brought in one quarterback, Caleb williams one guy they didn't bring in four guys they didn't bring in four guys at once they brought in one quarterback they sent a message this is our guy the commanders get to do whatever they want to do it's their team yeah who cares yeah that's right like that's that's kind of the angle that i think a lot of us you know as soon as we saw the tweet that you saw, we're like, oh, shut up, dude. By the way, the commanders have the second pick. They don't have the first pick. So now we all

expect that Caleb Williams is going one, but he still hasn't. So you have to act as if anything could still happen. The commanders are in a great position of power, but it's not number one. It's number two. And we, again, all expect Caleb Williams. Oh, Jaden, what if this is a

compliment, Jaden? What if they think you're going number one, actually, to Chicago and they're thinking maybe we're going to have to take one of these other quarterbacks. We'll have him in here. Now, you just think everybody's on the same page. It's Caleb. But Washington, if they wanted to spin this to the agent

and be like, oh, relax. It's a compliment to Jaden. We actually think there's a chance he goes number one. We're either going to bring in Caleb, who we already like. He's from here. We know him. Everybody will love him. Or we're going to bring in one of these other guys. So we had to bring him in.

Had to see how it was. Is that what they're saying? Or are they saying this is how we're going to do things and this is our draft process? Sorry you don't like it. Because Bill Belichick said he's brought in 12 guys at one time before adam peters worked for belichick back in like 2003 i think so it's not like abnormal i guess but i never heard of it before this particular situation how do you think both sides are like how are the commanders describing it and is ron butler just trying to work his guy out of a team well i i I think that the Giants, again, just as an example, many teams bring in

many players at a group. On one day, the Giants had an all three elite wide receivers, Marvin Harrison Jr., Roma Dunzey, and Malik Nabors all on the same day. They had quarterbacks all on the same day. Like teams do that. Everybody's got a different approach. You can decide what you believe is the right one or the wrong one. I think in this particular case, by the sense of Ron Butler's emojis, I don't think that Jaden was particularly pleased with the way that that was handled.

Again, that's how I believe. That's what we're thinking. We're thinking there's a chance he stinks at golf. We're thinking he topped a couple. No one wants to be exposed for being a poor driver at Top Golf when you're thinking he topped a couple. No one wants to be exposed for being a poor driver at top golf when you're on a visit like that. That's embarrassing.

You don't want that. It's embarrassing. But Jaden's an athlete. We assume he will have that figured out. We assume, Jaden. Come on. We watched him play last year. He's a stud. Hey, we appreciate the hell out of you for taking this call in the middle of the airport. Thank you for clarifying some things. I'm glad to clarify those things. Again, let's be very clear.

Caleb's going to go number one. I still think Jaden will go number two. But there's maneuvering going on, and we're not done with the maneuvering. I still think he's the favorite to go number two. Okay? The jersey part, let's listen to the full podcast and then we'll see where the rest of the picks go.

It's going to be a fascinating week. I will also say, I love Mel Kuyper. Mel's like, this is the most fascinating draft that I've ever seen. I think Mel said that about 37 of the previous 40 drafts. He loves it. He's jacked up. We all are. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, he loves it. He's jacked up. We know that's why we appreciate it. We all are.

We all are. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Thank you, buddy. Travel safely, Schefter. Travel safely. Travel safely. So they're trading out.

But he actually, is he saying the Raiders are going to try to come get him? Daniels is going to, but he's not going to Washington. That's what it sounds like. But also, I mean, if we just want to go down that vein, which everything's fodder right now. He said Jaden Dane is still a favorite to go there, whatever the case is. They're looking at all those other quarterbacks because they might be back in the – Exactly. Yeah, they might do the Cardinals, like what the Cardinals did last year

where they trade out and then they trade back up because they traded the number three so that Texas could take Anderson. Then they traded back up to take Paris Johnson to tackle. Oh, because you're probably going to – you're going to get a lot to get up to number two. Yeah, especially if it's a team like that who's in the teens. You can bundle. The Vikings 11-23 now

probably, is that a better offer than 13? Absolutely, unless they add in one of their corners. If Devontae Adams is in the trade for the Raiders, that is huge. That would be a gangster first draft for Adam Peters. Yes, it would. Trade out a two. Get a bunch of firsts.

Get your quarterback that you potentially have sold yourself on. First next year, too. Won't you ever get a first next year, too? Oh, yeah. Definitely. That would be a gangster. That would be a first draft, like, Hall of Fame situation, you know? Get out a two.

Get out of the number two overall pick. Garner picks for the future and for the current draft that we're definitely going to need while also getting the quarterback that you have sold your entire building on that you want. Because they're talking about Pennix, Bo Nix. Who knows what's going to happen with JJ? Like, what if they're like, we're okay with one of these guys. Pennix to go in the first round is minus 130, right? Isn't that what it is?

It's not like a... Oh, geez. That in the first round is minus 130, right? Isn't that what it is? It's not like a – Oh, geez. Hammer that. That's a first-round thing. So, like, what if Penix is potentially the one that everybody, you know – Yeah, something's going to happen, right? There's going to be – someone's going to take one of those handful of guys before you like we thought they might go,

and that's going to throw everything off. Hopefully. I mean, that's why, as Mel says, this is going to be an interesting draft. Well, for 37 years he's been saying, but this time he means it. He got a little extra pumpkin pie this time. But the maneuvering going on behind the scenes, it's like, what's that, Shefty?

If Washington... So I didn't hear Shefty said it's been rumored that Jaden might not want to play in Washington. Is that something I haven't heard? Raiders. Allegedly Antonio Pierce was with them in Arizona State. Obviously the Raiders need a quarterback. This would be a hell of a time for them.

He wants to go play for them. He was on that IG Live where I forget. I think it was Malik Neighbors actually who said, yeah, I can tell the people where you're going. Go and reunite with one of your good friends. And then from that, everyone was like, oh, he's talking about Antonio Pierce, of course, because they're good buddies from Arizona State.

Isn't that wild to think that there is probably, like if this deal happens, it would have to have come together over a long period of time because there's going to be a lot of shit. This isn't a five-minute negotiation here for the number two overall pick. For a franchise with a brand-new owner, brand-new GM, brand-new era, the first thing they do is like, we need a quarterback, right? Alright, we're getting out of this number two overall position and we're going back because we know exactly what this team

and who this team wants. So if it's not him, okay we are okay with any of these three guys that we brought in and if they're available at seven eight, nine if we're able to get there, what a wild night it could be on thursday the draft spectacular is about to be electric i believe from 7 30 with

the draft spectacular kickoff all the way through we have a chance for real fireworks in this thing oh yeah huge and the other thing with the raiders and you guys can probably speak more on this but like first year gm so telesco all those guys on the roster minus the guys that they picked up in the offseason like they're not his guys technically and we talk about that a lot where a GM wants to put their own stamp on the team and trading Devontae Adams isn't like a move that Telesco you said he would make he actually said he's a Raider he's going to be a Raider but isn't that kind of part of it too like if they do have to give up a big piece aside from a Crosby or Devontae, would he be more willing

to do that than, say, the Vikings and Kweisi because of the fact that he's got some of his guys in there already? I don't know. I wonder with the Al Davis and the Raider way thing that they've been pushing. If you trade out some guys that are Raiders, that sends a message

too that we're not doing the – For sure. They could just do Bubz Belain for number two overall. I think that would get them. Oh, you got the deal done. We're talking about it. Bubz Belain? Washington might have to throw in more.

I was going to say, yeah, for Terry and Terry McCormick. Caleb Williams has got to be grinning like the butcher's dog right now. How come? Everyone talks shit on him, said he was going to do this. That's true. For how long? You're right, but Jaden's not really doing it. Imagine if they're not able to get a deal done

and then draft night comes and Eli, John Elway's situation pops off. Yeah, do they just take Drake May if they're worried about that? Are they like, all right, let's just not deal with this. Let's just take Drake. So the number two overall pick odds moving. Remember, number two overall pick doesn't mean commanders. Although, the commanders said

they're comfortable, didn't they? They're literally comfortable. They don't see a lot of scenarios where they're trading out. Everybody's lying. It feels like it's changed. That came out in the morning. It feels like, obviously, it's changed since then. That's just strictly because we know Schefter knows people everywhere.

Yeah. It's got to make it easier for the commanders, doesn't it, to try to move out or move off of Jaden if they do get a sense that he doesn't really want to be there, too. Well, there's been a lot of – I mean, no offense to Jaden Daniels. I don't want him to take any. I hope he plays very well. But the NFL has been very good without you,

and the NFL will be very good whenever you're done in the NFL. And that's always my big thing about, like, these guys who've not done shit in the NFL acting as if they're going to hold the NFL hostage. It's like, no, you're not. If, like, you just were not to play next year, if somebody's dropped, nobody would care. The ratings would be just as good. The ratings would be just as good.

The NFL would be just as healthy. It would be a-okay. Now, if there is an actual business move to be made, let alone the whole this thing and the agent doing it and the Raiders come up and get them, it's like, now the expectations are what they are for Jaden Daniels. New ownership or Raiders, new GM, new era. And also, we gave away three first-round picks for this.

We're leveraging the future for this guy. We saw with Trey Lance. That's how he was kind of talked about the entire time is what was given up to go get him. It'll be the same exact thing for Jaden here, regardless of how it goes. And also, you look at Washington, could be like the flip side.

Like, hey, Remember the last time we were in this position and we leveraged the future to go get a quarterback and it didn't work. Maybe we tried the other option. I feel like people also with this situation they always, the caveat is Eli did it. Eli is from the NFL's royal family.

It's a little bit different when your brother is the best quarterback in the NFL and people are just like, yeah, this guy is going be a hall of famer you know his dad was the first overall pick so was his brother like there's a little bit more sucks but it's reality exactly it's just the way it goes so like for for people saying these guys like i understand he won the heisman but like he's not he's not afforded the same situation he's not in the same situation as eli is like so it's not and john elway was before that, I believe. They were calling him Hall of Famer

his freshman year of high school. Exactly. So, you know, not that Jaden isn't going to be special. I like watching Jaden Daniels play football. For sure. That's why it feels, as much as this could be all the agent, this is the time where a team might be like, hey, Jaden Daniels is causing a lot of problems off the field for the Commanders. Oh, this guy, not fun.

Yeah, I don't think you want to mortgage the future on a guy like this because of the fact that he might just not show up. It's all bullshit. Yeah, exactly. Until it's not. Until it's not, yeah. Saying that and then being like, with that being said, we'll give you three first-round picks.

Come up and get it. And a player. It'll be with Bill there. Yeah, it's going to be awesome. He's going to know. Because, you know, he is pretty close. I mean, Adam Peters, you do his research, was with the Patriots. Yeah.

I think like 2003 or something. All these trades that we're talking about, you know, RG3, you know, what's his name, Trey Lance. Like he was in the league when all that was happening. I cannot wait to hear his take on it. Well, we were getting calls. Yeah. I didn't want to do any of that. Well, that's what I do want to know.

If he was ever going to trade up. Peters was with the Patriots from 03 to 08. Okay, yeah. So I'd say they know. I'll be excited. How about when the Patriots make their pick? Oh, yeah. I know.

I'm very interested to see how that goes. He'll be football business. Happy for them. Move along. Right to the who's fourth. Yeah. I think he's a Wolf fan just because Wolf is from a football business. Happy for them. Move along. Who's fourth? I think he's a Wolf fan just because he's from a football family.

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Tinging up a Paul Skeens fastball. I was thinking of Paul Skeens right here. That's a big guy. The hot boy smoke. Lumbering male. His legs are fucking massive. He said he caught up to his body or something. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Only like the last few years. How do you throw so hard? He's like, I don't know. I just throw hard. He said it's only been the last few years, too, so hopefully that means all the wear wasn't. Yeah, that's good for him. Yeah, it's got to be a great thing for him.

Three to four outings with 120 pitches. And his arm felt good after. Yeah. He said during it, it felt good. Yeah. Well, he said he played catcher growing up, too, and that's what he pitches. And his arm felt good after. He said during it, it felt good. Well, he said he played catcher growing up, too, and that's what he thought. So he probably wasn't one of those guys who only pitched and

was throwing all the time. He was catching a lot. As I saw, I think, 2022, when he was playing in the Cape Cod League, I believe. He won the John Olerud dual player or double player. He won the Johnny? Yeah. He didn't know that? Yeah, so he wasn't just a pitcher.

He's out there doing it all. What's it called? Johnny. But full name. What's the birth name of that award? It's kind of like a Touaregon situation. It's kind of just the Johnny. He literally just said it. You don't even remember. No, no, no. I do. What's the point? You know John Allroot.

He used to wear a helmet. Of course I do. Like Peter Chetch. Come on. Great goalie. Yes, that's a helmet. Of course I do. Yeah, like Peter Chech. Come on. Great goalie. Yes, that's a good call. I think he actually played with Randy Johnson. He did.

He's so big, that Skeens guy. So big. How about him being a catcher? What? Yeah. How is that even? It sucks for the ump. I appreciated his take on just the automatic box, the strike box,

the strike zone thing. He's like, I used to be a catcher. There was a job. I hadn't thought of that at all. That is a big deal. Framing pitches is a real thing. First thing I thought the other day when they were talking about strike zone. Framing pitches is 90% of the catcher's job. Legit.

They're just taking it away completely. Yeah. We get a baboon to go sit back there, just put the glove up, have the Indianapolis Zoo, provide one of the chimpanzees, put a glove on it, have it sit back there, hit that thing right in the screws, and then the umpire can throw it back because the umpire ain't doing shit either.

That's right, yeah. The umpire's just being told if it's a ball or a strike. The chimp can throw it back. The chimp can throw that thing back. Well, the problem is... I think they can catch, they can't throw. That's why we've always been one step ahead of them. One either can throw or catch.

You need two chimps, maybe, because we need a catch and chimp, and then we need a throw and chimp. That's why we've always been able to put them in cages as opposed to them put us in cages. Correct. Yeah, but if you release one of those chimps to come and play catcher,

that thing is hightailing it to South America, back to the jungle as fast as it can because it does not want to live there. Then it earned it. Well, they got these new walking tunnels for these chimpanzees. They can just tour the entire zoo. I bet those smell great. Really?

Yeah. They don't care. I mean, chimps aren't shot. They are very clean. You mean like hamster tunnels like up above you they walk around? Yeah, there it is. This is what we're talking about. This is what we're talking about.

So you're telling me he can't throw that ball back? He can catch it. He's a catching one. I can tell. So you've got to have two. Then we'll get two of those guys back. Yeah, we need a throw chimp and a catch chimp. And then all of a sudden we can figure it out from the Indianapolis Zoo.

But it's not about smell. It's about them. They're just wandering around town. They've got like aerial tunnels, I guess. I see notes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're walking over the drafts, poking. Yep.

Pooping on them. Yeah. Gotcha. They love doing that. Yeah, that's what. They're walking over the drafts, poking. Yep. Pooping on them. Yeah. Gotcha. They love doing that. Yeah, that's what Chimp's doing at Indianapolis Zoo. It's pretty good. Wow. I need to check that out.

Dude, it's a great zoo. You guys got a zoo, too? Columbus has a good zoo, right? Oh, yeah. Jack Hanna. Yeah, it's a great zoo right here. Indianapolis Zoo is a good zoo. It's big.

It's legit. It's a good zoo. Is that old orangutan still hanging out almost dead? Rocky. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Rocky looks very lively every time I've seen him. Every time I've seen him in person, too, he is not. He's just a curmudgeon.

He is. What do you want? He likes to fuck with kids, too. He's got a four-by-four box to live in. He feels good. He's got a big glass box. It's not that big for how big he is. Both times I've been there, he loves to scare the kids.

Like, my daughter will be up against a class, and he'll just come. I'm fucking miserable. Come here. Hey. If you're happy, you're going to live my life now. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

Rocky, you've done good. Rocky was in a Fergie music video. That's pretty sick. Rocky has obviously done a draft pick for the Indianapolis Colts. Yep. And Rocky can draw a star. Oh, he's showing off there. Is that the cocaine they feed the regattans?

No, the lady regattans are watching him. Yeah, flip his tongue. He can tie a cherry. Do the apple bit. Sure. That's the old cherry trick. Spell it out, Joe. Drives him wild.

Stop by Indianapolis Zoo sometimes. My wife and daughter go there a lot. It's great. Good zoo. Because my daughter, she's got, my wife got season passes. And it's like such a good thing for Mackenzie to walk around. Oh, yeah. She pounds on the aquarium.

Hey, she's walking when you're holding her hands. There we go. She's big stepping, too. there we go she's big stepping too i mean she's big stepping striding out big stepping yeah it's like yo we gotta slow down a little bit don't you think nope we're going back to the okay all right and when she's crawling she is beating the shit out of the ground i mean we are moving you know she might be watching those might be those chimpanzees a little bit too much. Could be. Oh, yeah. Does she have a wide gait? She's throwing turds.

Well, actually, she pissed on the bed this morning because we're trying to change the diaper. And when it was off, she fell free and she let it go. Oh, yeah. It's going to happen. I get it. I get it. She doesn't like getting her diaper changed on the changing table anymore. So that's become a full thing. She can roll over.

She can try to jump out. She can scream. Get a roll. She is real. Yeah. And she's so strong. I've tried to roll over. She can try to jump out. She can scream. She's so strong. I've tried to hold her. So strong. Yeah, like insanely strong. What's her deal? I don't know. I've literally asked a couple of them.

What's your deal? How are you? I should be able to just put you down here. Kind of like a chimpanzee. No. They get something in their hands. You try to get it away. No way. Your grip strength is...

Chest hair? Oh, yeah. Chest hair and skin too sometimes? Yep. You try to get it away. No way. Your grip strength is. Chest hair. Oh, yeah. Chest hair and skin too sometimes. You bet. Necklace. Hair. Actual hair. She hasn't gone for my hair yet.

Getting in there, huh? Yeah, it hurts. It hurts. Right now we got to get her on a. She's on a soft thing, but it can't be the changing table to change diaper. Without full on. Scene. Dramatics.

Sure. You know, the whole song and dance. So this morning it was the bed. And it was awesome. It was a good time. And then she just was like, oh, this looks nice. I'm going to mark this territory. Pissed all over.

Learning too much from Chuck. Yeah, you're right. That might be what it is. Yeah, her and Val tight. Her and Chuck not so much. Well, that's good. She ride Chuck around? Can she ride his back? Chuck's struggling.

Chuck is A-OK. Boy, look, I was just there and I was videotaping Chuck strictly to watch his legs go... Come on. He just got out of the cold tub. No, unfortunately, the cold tub is that lying down on the ground? Yeah, he just got out of the cold tub. That's why he the cold tub, is that lying down on the ground? Yeah, he just got out of the cold tub.

That's why he was cold. Boy, because he'll get up for a good 10, 15 seconds and then right away, oh, fuck, I weighed too much too. No, no, no. What you're seeing is him flexing his muscles for you, so it's involuntary spasms of the thigh and of the calf. Okay, kind of showing off to the crowd. Because he's been trying to support that weight all day?

Well, he has a little bit more space between gut and ground now. Does he? Which tells us that a little bit more now. Remember, he was a scraper. He was a scraper. We have the fattest corgi on earth. The biggest corgi to ever exist. By far. Without a doubt. How much does he weigh, do you think? 280.

Up there. He's only like 12 inches, 8 inches tall. Exactly. Think about that. Well, he does look taller now, once again, because his gut is off of that. But those little tiny legs, I don't know how they're supposed to sport a dog. Well, they're not. I don't even know how they're supposed to sport any dog.

Normal-sized dog. I don't know about Chuck and how that's going to exist. But, yeah, Chuck is certainly... Can Chuck swim? Look at that brick shithouse. Yeah, Chuck can't float, obviously, as we look at him. You see him? Well, he might be able to get a couple steps off the deck.

Yeah, Chuck's a big boy. That's a round mound, my friend. Chuck is... Go ahead. No, it's not filtered or anything, right here this is uh it's all chuck he looks much leaner now though i feel like this is what christmas time it's a bad angle of him it's holiday weight it is why would you yeah i mean i this wasn't me you should see the videos i got anyways chuck is uh also a stubborn prick so that's good you know that's a really good thing

the amount of times i just gotta look at him and like just like give him a little boop yeah because he doesn't want to move out of mckenzie's way sure like hey she's crawling but he wants to stand right in front and he acts as an entire gate and he doesn't move and i'm like move and he's doesn't move i fucking can't. You made me too fat, motherfucker. What do you mean move? I don't want to be here. Make him lay in front of the stairs, though, especially if she gets more mobile, like a baby gate.

She attempted to jump off the bed, first time of this happening, and then she didn't learn at all. She wanted to do it again. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she seems to be it again oh yeah yeah she's was like give me all yeah yeah she's she seems to be a little bit of a are they all evil kenevil like they're all just don't have a my daughter definitely is yeah okay yeah all right so that's what we signed up for i guess yeah that's what we did yes we did yes we did let's get to a break

we'll go to a rumor mill and then we'll go into the greatest weekend of all time. AJ. Who are we going to in the rumor mill? Donnie Don Don. Yeah, it's the only person we know. That's right. There's a lot of things, you know. So many things. So many things.

We've been trying to, you know, see what we want. Because Donnie Don Don, you know, he's tough to get a hold of. It is. So you kind of wonder, like, what has he heard Donnie Dondon, you know, he's tough to get a hold of. It is. Yeah. So you kind of wonder, like, what has he heard about? And what will he get wrong? What will he misunderstand about what's going on as he lives down in a rumor mill with the boys?

I'll be excited to find out. Same. What do you think, Ty? You think there's going to be a little, you think Donnie Dondon's going to throw some gas today or no? I think Donnie Dondon only throws gas. Yeah, that's what I've recognized. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm guessing he's going to be 105, 106 right on the block.

Paul Skeens. Yeah. Bingo. We have two Paul Skeens on it. Yeah. Or Mad Mel. Speaking of. Through some heat.

What's up? Russ Wilson throwing first pitch today at the Buccos game. Full uniform. Taking BP. Probably playing shortstop for the game as well. That's what you're wishing for? Is that actually happening? I think it's probably actually happening. Well, the first pitch is actually happening.

Okay. What time? If I know Russ, full uniform is probably happening. Full football uniform, you mean? Helmet and everything? Baseball, obviously. That'd be so sweet. But he also has the flip up and flip down glasses.

He does. Because in Pittsburgh. Eye black. Pittsburgh, easy come, easy go with also has the flip up and flip down glasses. Yeah. Needed them. Because in Pittsburgh. Eye black. Yeah. Pittsburgh easy come, easy go with the sun. Baseball bottom football top. Definitely big league chew. Yeah.

There we go. Baseball bottom football top. Yeah. That would be so sweet. Get the big Barry Bonds cross earring too. Before we get to a break, let's turn on the music. Ladies and gentlemen, Brandon Iyuk has posted on his Instagram story. He is FaceTiming with...

That's Jaden Daniels, I believe. I do not know. I'm 90% sure that that is Jaden Daniels. I mean, that is half a face blurry at the bottom yep are you can we get a little bit more context please he said brother said we got six days and it's fireworks oh so he's pumped about the draft spectacular yeah because i think so bill belichick's gonna be co-hosting a draft spectacular yeah or they're saying big trade coming or big trade coming yeah either one oh my god Oh, my God. Which, I mean, look.

See, this is so weird. I'm trying not to go six to midnight, but. Ew. I mean, think about the wide receivers that have been traded for second and fifth round picks. Think about a team who has the top of the second round where there will still be a lot of great receivers. And think about the team that has a top three pick that could get Jay and Daniels. I mean, I'm just saying, sure, both of them could easily end up with the Raiders somehow. But, boy, oh, boy, there's really one team sitting pretty

that can get both of these guys if possible, and that would be the New England Patriots. So I did a search on the internet. Could you imagine Bill Belichick on the program while the Patriots are doing all of that if that is the case? There's a lot of different teams I think that would be interested in all parties. Oh, definitely. I did an internet search.

You're the only one saying that Shane Daniels. I'm not saying it's not. Who is it? Maybe his brother, because it does say brothers. Oh, so actual brother. Okay. Which? Brother said, we got six days and it's fireworks.

They do call each other. You got to figure that out pretty quick. His agent, though, there's a lot of mixed... His agent's been on Twitter saying, like, he's not going anywhere. His agent's been saying he's not going anywhere? Iuk's, yeah. What do you mean? I just sent in one of them.

Oh, Iuk. And then Iuk goes, there's Instagram stories. It's six days. We got fire. He's excited for the draft. Yeah. Let's get to a break. Okay.

Brother, thank you. Yeah. They, I mean, they kind of... They're close to the point where they do say they're brothers. Arizona State and then all that shit. Jaden Daniels was at the San Francisco NFC Championship game in the locker room. So at this point on the internet, blurry half-face lower right corner. Has not been identified or has been identified?

Not. It would be very impressive if Conor was the one. I'm pretty confident. The hair and facial hair is Jaden Davis. Kind of a match. Yeah. Teeth, everything. Okay. Let's go back. Let's go back.

Let's go back. Could be. Let's go back. Could be. And their connection is from college. Yeah. You might be right. I'm willing to. How come he can't just tell us, though, too? Yeah.

Tag him. What is fireworks? What does that mean? Boo-boo. Zambelli. Shots. Shots. Explosives.

That type of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Someone just sent in a photo of them, too, on the field together. Brother said we got six days since fireworks that doesn't mean they're both on the same team no it just means six days and spots pop off dude so this is now if that is jayden daniels which hey i will be on board with neighbors have said something yep Ayuk has now said something

And these are people he's very tight with right Yep There are a couple of Jay and Daniels now out there Something's going on I mean what are we talking about I've been staring at two photos for the last four months And one of them was Jay and Daniels And the other was Drake May

I know what these fucking guys look like Let's get to a break That's a big deal on the IG stories. It is. Had Schefter saying, if you look at the emojis, you'd say. Now we're looking at IG stories and we're saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

That's the draft. That's why we love it. Draft season. And that's why we love it. Sometimes you know. Sometimes you don't know. And sometimes we know that we don't know, but it's fun to think we maybe do know.

Bingo. And that's why we love, but it's fun to think we maybe do know. Bingo. And that's why we love it. Let's get to a break. We'll see you in about five with a rumor mill check-in. And then maybe we'll call rap sheet. Maybe a weekly wrap-up of rap sheet and friends. Just cold call rap. It's almost golf season, right?

We've got to get them now. Well, it's Harry Potter, Pez Dispenser season. Yeah, you're right. Let's get to a break. Be a friend, tell a friend. Remember? Vaguely, I vaguely remember. Is he a big Pez guy?

Massive Pez guy. Pez museum. He collects these things. AJ, what happens? Are you here? I don't think I was here when he talked about the Pez thing. I think he referenced it later. I didn't know how serious he was about the old Pez deal.

I think he's like season member. Season pass. Hey, we all. He faced time with Jude actually. Put the same thing on his IG story. Brother, six days from now, we got fireworks. And that's the Pez dispensary.

Nine days from today. It's after the draft. Let's get to a break. Jude's losing his fucking mind. Something's the best dispensary. Nine days from today. Excuse me. Yeah, because after the draft. Yeah. Let's get to a break. Jude's losing his fucking mind. Something's happening, too, huh? Sounds like it. Maybe. Let's get to a break.

I mean, if they were smart, they'd just, you know, go back to three. You guys are going to go up? Just swap two and three if you're worried. Easy deal. Boards! Not a lot of pizzazz, but that's A.J. Hall. BORDS! Not a lot of pizzazz, but that's A.J. Hawker. That's a classic Hawker. Appreciate you, A.J.

Talks to the tables here at Boston Corner. Nat Tyshmint, con man, rocking a great shirt. Yeah, thank you. Shout out to Kayla Nurse Jackson for sending this to me. Very nice, very nice. Yeah, it was a nice little part, thank you. Yeah, truly. It really was. Very thoughtful. It was very kind of you to thank her this morning as well,, it was a nice little birthday. Truly. It really was. Very thoughtful.

It was very kind of you to thank her this morning as well because there was a little conspiracy being pitched and maybe she was either trying to poison you or butter you up so you stop saying anything bad about the Colts. Yeah, we'll see what happens later in the day. This thing did smell a little like rat poison, but again, we'll see after the fact how it affects me. I guess you can never rule it out.

The thing we learned there, at Evan Foxey, who punches the buttons to change the cameras and edits videos, he believes that rats are real, right? That's what I just heard. 100%. Because if there's rat poison, rats got to be real.

Right. I mean, come on. We've all read an Andrew Marchand article. What are we talking about here? What are we speaking about? Well done. Well done. You absolute no.

I feel pretty good. You set me up for it. I appreciate it. He's still doing it, right? I don't know. That was kind of just like a blast from the past. Shout out. That's a long time ago. Yeah, yeah.

Hope you're doing well, man. Actually, don't care, but I assume you are doing well. There he is. Guy's a talent. Guy's a talent. Guy's a talent. Guy is a talent. One half of the hammer. Cowboys, Tony Diggs is here. Tony, you were the one that started cooking up the conspiracy.

Are you okay? Oh, I'm great. You're okay? Yeah, yeah. What's happening? Tony, you were the one that cooked up the conspiracy about maybe trying to butter him up and do that entire thing. How about the conspiracy theory around number two overall pick? How much do we need to focus on that whenever we're talking about gambling? What else should we be thinking about gambling as we go into this weekend from the Hammer

Dot Boys? There's almost too much bullshit around number two at this point, to be honest. Now we have no idea. Shafty still thinks it's still going to be Jay and Daniels, so if you trust that at minus 130, those are really good odds.

And if you want to do that, go ahead and take Daniels to go number two. But there's just so much shit going around right now for number two that's something I would stay away. Like, there's a lot more value farther down the draft. Like, there's players to go top 25, top 15, stuff like that. Like, Bowers is – Bowers has, like, the same odds to go top 10. And you're sitting – the Jets are at number 10. There's other teams like the Chargers and stuff like that

who Bowers can go to and stuff like that. I wouldn't, me right now personally, I wouldn't fuck with two. Okay, we're just staying completely away from too many question marks. Bob Agampino, we got baseball this weekend to gamble on. We got soccer to gamble on this weekend. We got hockey. We got basketball. What are you picking to kind of pick apart this weekend?

I'm going to go back to the draft here. Really? Flyer. You think the Raiders getting Jaden Daniels? Plus 600 right now. I think it's worth a sprinkle. You would think that would be more. I would think that would be much bigger. Is that changing? They have to give up.

I don't know what it was at before today. It's actually kind of short. But also J.J. McCarthy plus 105 to go to the Vikings right now. And we just like that strictly because there's been a lot of smoke with that. Yep. What about Giants? Yeah, Shrakes had him. They're plus 250 now. So the plus 600 for the Raiders, so much seemingly has to happen for that to take place.

But there's a lot of smoke. We got IUK IG stories. We got Malik Neighbors and Jayden Daniels IG lives. We got tweets from the agent. We got a lot of stuff. And we got Adam Schefter saying there's maneuvering going on, AJ. It sounds like that too spot. There's going to be, as I

used to say, fireworks potentially at the number two spot. Zambelli. Yeah, but we have six days left. We know between now and actual, say, 7.30 when we start the preview show for the draft, a lot's going to happen. Who knows? We could be a completely different landscape by now.

Draft Spectacular Kickoff. Son of a bitch. Draft Spectacular Kickoff show. Well, it's just supposed to be Draft Spectacular Kickoff. Yeah. That's all. So when you see this graphic tomorrow, the show at the end will be off.

It was just, yeah. Hosted by Bill Belichick. That should be the make that bigger. This was his idea, by the way. His idea was don't we need to explain some things before we get started? And I wanted to explain to him a lot of downtime during the first round.

A lot of fill. We started at 830. A lot of filling we're going to have to do, Bill. But he wants to get ahead of some stuff. You know, especially as these once, if number two happens the way number two is seemingly potentially going to happen, there's going to be a lot of drama there early. Yes.

A lot of action. Yes. It'd change the whole first round, too, if a lot of action happened. Drama at two last year as well. I don't action. Yes. It changed the whole first round, too, if a lot of action happened. Drama had two last year as well. I don't remember. Yeah. Three. Well, it was the – so Bryce, by the time that we got to next week or whatever, Bryce was pretty much known to be number one.

But then like an hour before, remember, if you – because I remember sitting right here and then going into the Hammerdown studio as we were going on stage, and it was like 10, 15 minutes before the draft where things finally started revealing themselves. And it ended up going. CJ, like mine. I can't listen. I got to take a shit. He did say he's been Chipotle's been getting been given.

Look at that water. Oh, gross. Been there. Been there. Hey, good news, con man. Good news. There's dude wipes in all the stalls in there. That's right.

But the way he said it, like, he said, I can't listen to this bullshit anymore. Well, it did seem like he was weighing the options. You remember when Aaron was like, if I was 60% healthy but we had 100% chance of making the playoffs, I would have been able to do the math and i would have been able to play right but since we're at zero percent chance of making the playoffs i would have to be at about a hundred percent if we were going to get out there and play why risk it right there he was in a risk reward do i want to hear this take i was here last year or and risk shitting my pants or do i want to get out of here and in that one it just skewed yep yeah and that's not on you.

It could be what you said or it could be what it was. No, no, he wasn't spitting. It was. It was incredibly disrespectful. No. Tony. He had to poop. You know what's disrespectful is what his butthole is doing to him right now.

Well, I mean, he should have pooped when we just took a break. No, Tony, you know when you got to go, you got to go. And it's as simple as that. I think he did poop, by the way, during a break. He might be in a real. That is a real problem. Well, he did have Chipotle. He got to go, you got to go. And it's as simple as that. I think he did poop, by the way, during break. He might be in a real. That is a real problem. Well, he did have Chipotle. He could have an E. coli deal. Well, we have no idea.

No, yeah, that just happened. You know, we have no idea if that's true. Jeez Louise. That did happen. It did. I saw Matt Hasselbeck dead, dead on the locker room floor of the Houston Texans stadium down there. I think it was NRG at the time. I don't know if it still is NRG.

I believe it is. What was it before that? Houston had another name before that. Reliant? Whatever. Reliant? Yeah, Reliant Stadium. That's a good pool there.

Whatever the case, very loud. Matt Hasselbeck had the first, I think one of the first cases of the entire E. Coli. He was out, dude. And then he won. Then we went and won the game. I showed up at the stadium. He's hoodie up, Cartman, shout out. Or Kenny, I'm sorry.

Sorry, Kenny. Over his head, tied tight. Sweats all the way down to his feet, even covered. Laying in front of his locker, just passed out. And I'm on first bus over there, so I'm one of the first people in the locker room. I'm like, there's a dead person in our locker room. Like, no, that's the starting quarterback tonight. He's like, he's been in the hospital

last two nights, too. It's like, geez, Louise. And they went out and won the game, AJ. He went out and won the game somehow. I have no idea. Good for him. And we have guys sit out games with, like, mild illnesses. This guy goes out and wins a game with e-coli i think yeah crazy that's wild now that we're looking back on it oh yeah and i think he even threw like a go to win that thing to ty we had like a third and

something i think if it's the same game it was like a third and something because i was getting ready to punt not a lot of time left it's like i hope we get the first down but not and you know as a punter like okay, okay, here we go. This is literally what we're here for. This is literally the reason why we are here. Close game. End of game. Got to do it.

And then all of a sudden they run a go to T.Y. Completes it. First down. Game over. Game over. We win. That guy had E. coli. Just won a game.

It was bananas. It was a wild night. I hope that's not the case for Connor and his butthole and his toilets. Yeah, me too. Because we've got a big weekend ahead of us. Big weekend ahead of us. But it's not just about what's ahead of us. It's about what has happened before us that maybe people have heard about around the world. Not just, you know, in different countries and in different places. We're talking about Don, you know, in the trenches.

We're talking about in the mills. In the rumor mill. With no outside world. Except for one potential little grasp of a story from the outside world. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Donnie Dondon in the rumor mill. Yeah, Donnie. Gentlemen, great to see you all again. Donnie, it's nips to see you again too, pal.

What's the temperature down in that rumor mill? We would think it would be hot because of all the work that's going on down here. Yeah, well, usually it is. There is a lot of heat. There's a lot of hot and heavy people down here, but, you know, a lot of ice in everybody's veins because we're always ready to work. Yeah, well, I appreciate that. And we're forever going to need the blue-collar folks who do work in mills to do their thing.

Anytime. Okay, thank you for your service, Don. Thank you, Donnie. Don't have to thank me. Donnie, thank service, Donnie. Thank you, Donnie. Don't have to thank me. Donnie, thank you, Donnie. Thank you, Donnie. Thank you, Donnie. I accept your thanks. Okay, that's very nice of you. Is that, uh, you got a pack of smokes there on your right? On your right?

You're just using, yeah. Maybe. Maybe I do. I forgot to wear pants today. I don't think you should be showing up at a mill with no pants, you know what I mean? Oh, no, no. it doesn't matter at all. You don't have to wear pants. It's one of those environments. Oh, the smoke's just moved.

It seems like you've got a... Whoa, whoa. I'm not trying to get a sponsorship, you know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. Oh, yeah, yeah, obviously. Always working. That's Donnie Dondon, always working. All right, Donnie Dondon, what have you been hearing down there in the rumor mill?

Anything accurate, I wonder, this week? Everything accurate, as always. But, you know, there's been a lot of news. We have a couple of people in the mill from Arizona. They're very upset about the Coyotes move. You know, there has been a lot of rumors circling around the Utah's hockey team name, all that stuff. Rumor has it that one of the things in the works is Mormons on Ice.

No city name, no animal or cool name or anything like that. Just Mormons on Ice. And the best part about Mormons on Ice is in the intermissions, the worst line performing-wise has to go out and do a routine a la Disney on Ice, let it go, let it go, let it go. Then, you know, that's one of the things. The other rumor that, you know, I am a big fan of is that they weren't going to do a team name, actually. They were going to go by Salt Lake, Utah. The Sluts, for short.

Capital S-L, capital U-T. No, I didn't know that. Rumor has it Utah's big on the name The Sluts. That's just what I'm hearing. No, because in the S-L-C. Salt Lake City. No, they're leaving out the city. I don't know why. I'm a big city fan, too, but they want to kind of emphasize the

lake, so they're going capital S-L, capital U-T for Utah UTS. You put that together. Yeah, we got it. I don't think anybody, just want to let you know, outside of here, nobody else has been, AJ, have you heard that in Ohio? I haven't heard that one time. I have.

I have not heard that, Donnie. That might be strictly you guys in the middle. Yeah, you might have made that up, it sounds like. Yeah, I don't think anybody's actually thinking that. The name is highly, highly chatted about. Didn't love the way the Hawks said that. I'm going to just go ahead and kind of try and get over that. But look, if you're not going to root for the slut, that's got to be you. All right.

A lot of people in the rumor mill have already bought the merch. They already had the merch, but they're already buying more. All right. Well, I don't think it's going to be, this seems like a Jaden Daniels jersey potential situation, although it is favored. Nobody right. Well, I don't think it's going to be. This seems like a Jaden Daniels jersey potential situation, although it is favored. Nobody's thinking that, though. You can go ahead and quell those stories with the boys down there.

What else are you hearing down the rumor mill, pal? Well, down the rumor mill, a big topic of conversation actually was regarding your city with Kaitlin Clark coming to town. I mean, everybody was buzzing. I had, you know, people walking out to me. Petey, Petey, Petey, this Guy doesn't even watch basketball. All of a sudden he's the biggest fever fan of all time. We like that. Yeah, I mean, look.

People are buzzing. Margie, Marge, Marge. You should have seen what she said about Kaylin Clark. Marge is in the rumor mill. She's running the rumor mill, brother. You need to get back down here, my friend. Never. Rumor has it, unfortunately the biggest story

around Kalen Clark was that weirdo, Greg Doyle. So rumor has it, Greg Doyle has been fired and what's even cooler and who knows how this turns out is kind of like how Rotten Tomatoes, like in IMDB,

he's going to start doing that around the country at Victoria's Secrets. He's going to be doing that around the country at victoria's secrets he's going to be all right i don't know that's not all the way no rumor has he's right in the people who work there he's right in the ambiance he's right in the smells and he's not stopping at victoria's secret he's also going to go and do that with strip clubs okay okay rumor has it rumor has it he's going strip club to strip club and he's right writing polls, he's writing food, he's writing feet, he's doing all of it. No, that is not Donnie.

He still is working for him. He's not fired. None of that. Really? Yeah, all the other stuff you said sounds like you're making that up. What time is it? Okay, well, we're in Eastern time over here. It's 2.33.

It's 3.30 a.m. here. There's a chance that the news hasn't hit you yet. Oh, you're tomorrow, 3.30 a.m. Yes, sir. That broke me a little bit. Really? Maybe I'm looking at my clock wrong. I don't know.

In the mail, it gets dark. He's calling other people weirdos. He's got his nipples. What do you want me to do about my nipples? I mean, this came up last week. What can I do?

What can I do? Tape them? No, I'm not going to do that. That is a nip-free zone, brother. Yeah, you're right.

I forgot about the safety. Safety precautions in the middle is obviously a big deal. I don't think any of that's true, but I do appreciate that Indianapolis and the Indiana Fever are massive fan favorites, some

other side of the world. Anything else you're hearing about the week that was over there in the Riverville? Speaking of the other side of the world, Pat, I got some really, really bad news. Rumor has it China's running the FBI now. China's running the FBI. I China's in on the FBI.

I don't know if this is going through the cloud. Maybe check the bugs in the back walls on this. I know you guys have a murderer in your building. Maybe have him go through the logs and make sure the Chinese aren't running their fingery clouds through everything going on because unfortunately, as the illustri evan fox pulls up this tweet the chinese government has borrowed themselves inside of the fbi uh it's a damn shame okay i was not supposed to be the one to break this you know rumor has you're not breaking it okay i'm breaking this i'm breaking this rumor has it f Director's brother. What? Petey Pete Pete. No. He told me that, yeah, the China on the borders, the China buying land in America.

Look out, because apparently China's getting ready, baby. Okay. And the rumor will be ready. Will you be ready? Yeah, we will be. We will be. From what it sounds like, though, from the, I did see this video in my algo yesterday a lot.

I did see this video in my algo yesterday a lot. There was a full testimony from the FBI person that would know information. Maybe not a rumor. And Donnie Dondon being 13 hours ahead. Where are you at? Who's telling you? How do you guys know I'm on the planet? All right.

Ladies and gentlemen, that was another trip to the rumor mill with Donnie Dondon. I want to say sorry for my boy flipping off Joe Biden. He didn't mean it. He didn't mean it. Thank you, Donnie Don. He didn't mean it. So those were cigs that became like a rib protector for him eventually? Yeah. We've all seen the people

that hold stuff, you know, in their shirts like this. I've never seen it in that particular fashion with that particular shirt from that particular style of human, but that thing was sliding quick, wasn't it? And then how about him dropping his unlit segway just for good luck, he says. Dirt all over it.

All its soot from that middle. The China thing is wild. Not good. I didn't like who was saying the information. I stay out of that world as much as possible. Because every time somebody says something that's supposed to be scary or negative,

I just think to myself, nah, they don't know. Just move on. This guy's supposed to know. So that's not great. I've been connecting dots lately. All right. Remember when the cell phones went down?

Yeah. Well, that was obviously planned. This week, 911 couldn't be contacted by landlines. They can now take out cell phones and landlines. We're not going to be able to contact 911 at all while the mass invasion begins. All right.

Are you not in a room? Let's remember that although there are some... How was the dump? That was one of the worst dumps I've ever taken in my life. Really? Yeah, that was gross. Tony thought you were disrespecting him when he got up in the middle of his answer. Absolutely not.

I apologize for that, Tony. This was a strictly emergency situation with my ties. It's great to see you back. We talked to a guy named Donnie Don Don, you know him. How was he? Well, he said something at the end that was kind of like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. Reckless is good.

He dropped his smoke. His unlit smoke. That's a nightmare. Yeah. Every smoker's worst nightmare. Well, it's not lit. It's just for good luck, obviously. But we did see that happen.

That sucks for him. Yeah. The rumor was alive. Yeah, it was. The rumor was alive. You can imagine. On a Friday. A lot has happened.

That's what day it is. Where we're at, yeah. It is. Yeah, where we are. It's true. He's on Friday. A lot has happened. That's what day it is. Where we're at, yeah. It is. Yeah, where we are. He's on Saturday. It is 3.37 in the morning in Tokyo right now, I guess. Yeah, it would make sense if he would be close to China, if he knows what they're doing. Let's get out of here.

Let's have an incredible weekend. I can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. I mean, we just talked to a guy in a Tokyo room. We did. Is he always in a Tokyo room or does he travel? I think he's the same. I think he's always in the same. That's a good question for next time.

Yeah. Okay. We should ask him that. I think he's open for questions. Normally, he's doing the talking. Sure. Do you think Matt Moe and Donnie Dondon ever had a conversation? How would that go, do you think?

Two peas in a pod. You think so? I think so. I would just assume that those guys see eye to eye on a lot of things. Socioeconomic things, political things. Okay. Sure. All right.

We're learning a lot every single time, and it's an honor to be a part of. All right, AJ, have a great weekend, pal. When are you going to link up with Wendy? Oh, I don't know. We're going to have to nail down the details here soon. It's not a Michigan game, obviously, because Wendy's too on edge. Schedule's not out yet, right?

Yeah, I've got to be alone too for that, but schedule's not out yet, I don't think. Homecoming? Oh, I think so. Yeah, there it is. There it is. Because Wendy's coming home. She's coming home.

Tell the Buckeyes Wendy's coming home. Tell the Buckeyes when he's coming home. Let the rain wash away by the face of AJ. Yeah, there's a way. Have you guys seen what Ryan Garcia's doing? Oh, boy. Three pounds overweight, three and a half pounds overweight. 1.5 mil he's giving up yep and uh somebody in his camp people saying it was his dad was trying to tell him like hey come on we're not doing it we are certainly overweight yeah he looked ripped

he is he's selling the fight he's making he's getting me interested in i just want to see what happens yeah i think we all kind of are excited about the experiment that is currently taking place that is ryan garcia for selling a fight now if he just gets his if he just gets knocked out 10 seconds in everybody'd be like this was the most obvious thing of all time with how this whole thing is gone but if he contends and wins and then afterwards says i thought it was a good angle to sell the fight he can do a full oh yeah it's a very yeah the fight game is so interesting. It is a very interesting thing with the whole heel, baby face, psycho, crazy, winner, you know. Like right now, I have no idea what's going to happen in the fight.

No idea. It shows you, though, like what you have to do to garner a little attention. There's so much out there. Like, yeah, and it's still, yeah, there's just so much to sift through, but what he's doing, it's, yeah, it makes me want to watch. He was wearing bulletproof vest. His head was right there, though, right, the whole it makes me want to watch. He was wearing bulletproof vest? Yeah. His head was right there, though, right, the whole time?

Yeah, wide open. Yeah. We should have him on Tuesdays during the season, football season. All right. I can't believe we didn't get to see him throw that 200-mile-per-hour fastball at the Mets game. Yeah, what the hell was over there? We'll see it eventually. Let's go on the weekend on a beautiful note.

We're incredibly happy for Taylor Swift and Travis Gilson. Can't wait to listen to the other album. We're incredibly happy for hockey. Hockey is awesome. Hockey, I think, just got better with this whole sell to Utah. 20,000 people already looking to get tickets. Incredible. Good for hockey.

I need to play off the worth of watch. Good for baseball. Baseball is happening. It has a lot of great characters. We just saw Moose come in here. Guy throws hundo all the time. Hey, good for baseball. And for us, we are less than one week away from a draft spectacular

that could be legendary and remembered for a good reason or a complete flop with Bill Belichick on the set with us. Now, there's a couple things that we do have to talk about. For instance, when we're there, if you see us and can't hear us, that's because we're not allowed to give any speakers to the audience. Nope. That is very similar to what we thought was going to take place at WWE World when for the first 15 minutes on WrestleMania Friday,

none of the crowd could hear us, and they were just staring at us, and the entire show is based off of crowd interaction. So that would have been something this one we know not able to hear because you see the stage is going to be behind us. So we're going to be able to, the stage is going to be right behind us and they're controlling the sound here.

There's going to be a lot of great people of Detroit right out here. Hell yeah. With brand new uniforms. It's a brand new alliance With brand new uniforms. It's a brand new Lions with brand new uniforms. I do think the all blacks are pretty clean. You know,

I think every athlete that has ever played would be a fan of the all blacks. Just, hey, what do you want to wear tonight? All black is sweet.

Dark color, sweet. Instead, you know, they got the black shirt with the blue pants too. That's an option that you could potentially wear.

They got the blue helmets here. They have some nice blue ones with some new little logos on the sleeve i like what the lions are doing lions are cooking up there they're the favorites of the nfc north they said we need some new tracks which i uh i appreciate but the people in detroit are gonna be amazing yeah mcdc also said that he wanted to bring back the black jerseys in the first year and i forget if it was the president or someone in the front office. He said if you win the division, they'll bring them back. And deal, man. Deal.

He said, okay, man. Done deal. And when he was doing up-downs in training camp, that Rod guy was like, we'll never have to worry about bringing these. Throw them out. Yeah, and the only problem with the old black jerseys is we did go 0-16 with them. That's something to think about. But I do love, love, love. No, no, nobody's thinking about that until you said it.

Well, I know, and I had to bring it up, though. I had to. What the hell? But I love the new black jerseys. Nobody knew that. What are we doing? A lot of people knew that. Detroit didn't.

You didn't wear them every game, though, obviously. No, they were alternates. But, yeah, they're sick. The Lions have not missed in quite some time, actually. Hey, good for the Lions. Like, the numbers in lettering from this new jersey to the last jersey, like 100 times better. And that's not always the case whenever teams roll out new uniforms.

Sometimes people get upset about the numbers. Those numbers look soft. I don't want the, what's a weird number? Is this an alarm clock or is this a uniform? Those things happen in nitpicking of every single design. Good for the Lions. The people of Detroit will be awesome in the crowd behind us. We are going to have to worry about the sound.

AJ, have you thought about this? The sound coming off from the stage, we're going to be directly in front of, I think. So is that a DJ? Is that a band? Do we remember what that is? I don't know. He's been at NFL Network doing it every year with them. Yeah, they're always right there.

And I think there's a bitch about. I think Rich has bitched about that aspect of getting music blared into his ear. I don't think we're as close as they have been in the past. I think we're a little bit further away. But I'm excited to see what music they play. Seeger.

Maybe. Is their bathroom close to the stage? It's Detroit. What's that mean? The whole city is your bathroom, baby. That's not true. Detroit's back. It's that mean? The whole city's your bathroom, baby. That's not true. Detroit's back. It's all the way back. I was just there. Detroit's all the way back. Okay.

The only thing we've got to worry about is the weather because it could be snowing next week. We never know. We're going to be in tuxedos, right boys? Yeah. I was going to ask you. I think we should. I don't know about bow tie.

Tuxedo, yeah. 58 and sunny. Just like the picture, AJ. Just like who? The picture. AJ's in the picture with the suit on. It's not a tux, it's a suit. There's a big difference.

It's the same deal. No, there isn't. Some of us own a bunch of suits, not everyone owns a tux. True a suit yeah there's a big difference same deal no there isn't yeah well some of us own a bunch of suits not everyone owns a tux true yeah big difference yeah we wearing tuxes or suits suits right what is the difference or either it's like when the there's a different color yeah the lapel is like shiny on a tux and then whatever just take sharpies and just enjoy it. Shine it up. Shine that thing up real nice. I'd ordered four suits slash tuxes off of Amazon two weeks before WrestleMania. Two of them fit.

The other two did not. So those were the two that got worn. And I was very pumped up about it. As I was shopping, tux, suit, I didn't fully understand what it was. Is it really just the different flashiness of the... And the pants that normally have a... The pants have a line down the side. It's an old wives' tale. What's that? There's no rules anymore. It's the same damn thing.

And you have to wear a bumper cum? No, you don't. A cumberbatch? There are rules. We're trying to make this important. Feel important. Yeah. Everyone's got to wear bumper cums. I don't think I know what a bumper cum is. Tuxedos are worn with bow ties and suits either with or without a tie. Tuxedos have satin lapels, which can even be from a different shade

while suit lapels are made of the same fabric. Okay, so we got a little pizzazz. Sure. A little pizzazz. Yeah, it sounds like there's no difference whatsoever unless you want there to be. Con man, to wrap up this glorious feel-good Friday, do you want to shoot a couple W-balls from really fast distances? Yeah, absolutely.

Do you want to do it from stage or on the court? Ooh, I don't know. I'll do the court. Yeah. Yesterday, he was putting this W-ball up a lot. It's a great ball to shoot. Great ball to shoot. This is a great ball.

It feels good. You know, it flies true high. Yes, it does. And it splashes live. When you splash one, it is a full pop. Conor was doing it from one side or the other. It was fun. It was really fun.

Now it could potentially mean, I don't know what, 30 winners going into a beautiful weekend of $500. Conor, man, why don't you help these people out? Why don't you tell 30 people, hey, you know what. 30 winners going into a beautiful weekend of $500. Con man, why don't you help these people out? Why don't you tell 30 people, hey, you know what? Have a little better weekend. Probably next weekend or the weekend after that, after we pick the winner and then are able to transfer the money to you. But how about you say, go into this spring and summer with an extra $500.

30 people get that opportunity. If con man can bury the W ball from one side of the dome But it's possible bonus ball bonus ball bonus ball 30 people $500 all the con man's got to do is bury it one day after his birth Hey, this is it. Yeah, do you want to put this jersey on? No, no, don't cover your birthday shirt Well, I should put the jersey on. No, it's my miss. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, you're right. She didn't sign it, by the way. She got out of here before signing it. Did you see Tim wearing the jersey last night? Just absolutely shredded. How about Tim McGraw in the K-12 shirt? So jocked. Bro, the way he's postured, too, is just like perfect.

He's like 50-something years old, too. What, 2%? Yeah. Body fat? Maybe. Super tan. Look how tan he is, too. Look at that belt buckle.

Jeez. He might be the biggest Caleb Clark Mark on the planet. That's a good thing. No, I know. I'm just saying he came to Iowa and did a shellhead or jersey on. Same deal. Obviously looking fucking stacked. Dude, look at how jacked Tim McGraw.

You remember when he did that fucking... Yeah. that flowed up whenever somebody was talking shit the fuck you say to me here still got it you need it go to the back jacked yeah that's uh what a weapon got a wallet you got his wallet on stage never know if something's gonna come up on a good deal that's right so just like cait Kaitlyn Clark has been able to do every single step of the way, we assume she'll be able to do it for the Indiana Fever. Why don't you do it one time here, Con Man? And 30 people will win $500

one day after his day of birth! Oh, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball. The good thing is if you miss by enough, you hit the wall. That's the difference between the stage and the on-court shot. But the on-court shot here, that's an NBA three right there. And he's all the way on the other side at the foul line, behind the foul line.

This is probably half-court. This is a logo three. Boston Connor, all you got to do is make it. 30 people win $500. Bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball. We're going to be here all day. Ladies and gentlemen, this man turned 20. Nine.

Nine yesterday. I put out on Twitter a post that accurately describes this human being. Just one of the greatest teammates ever created. The vibes, immaculate. Hilarious. Would do anything for anybody. Now,

sometimes it's a bit much. You know, you gotta kind of hold. Hold the horses. But right now, all he can do is just win 30 people $500 by making a very easy shot for him. From one side of the Thunderdome to the other. Boston Connor going

into the weekend! Oh! Oh, no. That was a good shot. the other. Boston Connor going into the weekend. Oh. Oh, no bonus ball. That's a good shot. This wasn't meant to be. The sentiment remains, though. Even though you weren't able to win for 30 people, you did try your absolute best, and we appreciate that. Because normally you'd be throwing that ball off the wall

into the hallway because you don't want the company to give money away to anybody. But instead, you've turned over a new leaf. On this trip around the sun, you say, why not have others have a great time as well? Sure, absolutely. I mean, I could do an underhand shot from here, but... This guy wants to give away.

He does. I'm trying. Let's go, Con Man. Also worked on my underhand shot for quite some time. From here? Yeah. You've been working on it for this moment? Yeah.

How many winners do you think? 30 winners, $500. Connor, with an underhanded bowling attempt from the stage. Oh, baby. Oh. That is a much more difficult shot. Yes.

You got another one? Yeah. This one's tough. 30 people. $500. A bowl of a basketball from Con Man on the stage for 30 people.

Holy shit, you are. You're a little dialed in right now. You're kind of throwing sliders at this thing. Is he a good bowler? Are you a good bowler? Phenomenal bowler. Ladies and gentlemen, if Conner can make this bowling basketball shot, 30 people will win $500. On this Feel Good Friday, April 19th.

That's way off. All right. You gave a good go. You did. Incredible. Hey, let's make sure we listen to I Love Mary. Yep. Real Pac-Man Jones.

Hell yeah. As we get ready for April 20th tomorrow. And for those that you will celebrate, for those of you that will celebrate, Pac-Man Jones. Hell yeah. As we get ready for April 20th tomorrow. And for those that you will celebrate, for those of you that will celebrate, let's do it responsibly. But also, you know, have some good laughs.

Oh, yeah. Have some good food. Have some good times. Have some good thoughts. And enjoy everything that we have because it's easy to get caught up in negative bullshit on the day-to-day. I mean, Donnie Don Don tried to drop some very serious stuff at the end we don't need that what we need to remember is we're alive we could be dead let's keep enjoying every single moment be a friend tell

a friend something nice it might change their life we're in this thing together okay team on me have a good one aj you too team on three one two three goodbye