The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1125 - PK Subban, Shams Charania, Mark Messier, JJ Watt, Jimmy Graham, Pat Kavanagh, Pacman Jones, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 8, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, Pacman Jones, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about last night’s playoff games in the NHL which featured two games going to overtime, and one going into double overtime, and the NBA playoff games which both resulted in 20+ point blowouts. Today’s show is also packed with several incredible guests including 3x NHL All-Star PK Subban (13:55-40:36), Shams Charania (43:50-56:48), 16x NHL All-Star and 6x Stanley Cup Champion Mark Messier (1:08:08-1:27:37), Future Hall of Famer, 3x NFL DPOY, 7x All-Pro, 5x Pro Bowler, JJ Watt (1:30:06-2:14:29), 5x Pro Bowler, 2x All-Pro Jimmy Graham (2:18:28-2:25:51), and the all-time leading scorer in Notre Dame lacrosse history and recent #6 pick of the PLL Draft, Pat Kavanagh (2:33:17-2:58:10). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Playoff Wednesday, May 8th, 2024, this sports program starts now! Sports! Wonderful, even whenever we're talking about people from one sport potentially playing in another sport, that sparks a debate on the internet that thousands and thousands of people would chirp about. Austin Rivers had an incredible performance on this show. He started quite a conversation that certainly made him look like a dum-dum. There's a lot of people taking shots at him,

but at least 19 million impressions on this particular tweet. There was others, then obviously Instagram posts, and it felt like everybody from the NFL world chimed in. No NBA players talking, though. Seemed to be very one-sided in this entire thing, which was shut talking, though. Seem to be very one-sided in this entire thing, which was, shut up, Austin. Okay? The mental toughness that is required to play in the NFL

and to play football is one that obviously Austin admitted to not having. He said he played for about 10 minutes in 8th grade, and that was too much for me. It was too hot. The coaches were yelling at me. It was too painful. I'm out of here. Seems like every basketball player, you hear the story of them talking about playing football one time. it all goes in a pretty

similar fashion. It's a mental thing, not just a physical thing, but I believe that our sport, the NFL, is capable of creating a situation for one of these aliens to potentially score a touchdown. Now, can they handle practice every single day in 18 straight weeks, in a training camp,

in off-season conditioning programs, in training, OTAs and everything. Definitely not. But, boy, what a convo last night sparked from Austin Rivers, and we appreciate him for that. He took it on his shins a lot. He did. He got murdered last night on the internet, which is fantastic.

The playoffs are happening in two sports, and I'll tell you what. One of them is electrifying. The other one seemingly has a blowout or two at least every other night. The NHL had two overtime games last night, and they were thrillers. 4-3, obviously the Avalanche beat the Dallas Stars down in Dallas' barn. Dallas was up 3-0 early. We thought maybe the rust of not having a game for a while for the Colorado Avalanche was going to kick them right in the tail feather in Game 1.

The Dallas Stars come out of a game seven against Las Vegas. They score three. Bang, bang, bang. How you doing? We're hot. We're in our barn. There's jubilation everywhere. There is electricity throughout the entire Big D.

But instead of Colorado Avalanche, excuse me, they score three, go to overtime. And with themselves getting pounded and seemingly not having much possession of the puck, they have somebody shot out of a cannon. Just faster than everybody else on the ice. Bang. How you doing? Keep it moving. Look at that. He's faster than everybody else on the ice bang how you doing keep it moving look at he's faster everybody's overtime this is the fourth period goal sorry about it otter the colorado avalanche one up in the series now let's go to the other hockey game that took place it was the new york rangers and uh carolina hurricanes now carolina hurricanes were favored to win the Stanley Cup over everybody else.

Odds going into the playoffs. New York Rangers are obviously this great story because they're in New York City. They got this guy, Rampire State, building. And they're a team that's been building for a while to potentially make a run at a cup, even though the Bruins have been in the Eastern Conference, have been dominant for a while. 4-3, double overtime. Rangers get a big-time win. Gensel, who's a trade participant, got his ass traded from Pittsburgh.

He scored two goals for the Carolina Hurricanes. But in the end, in double overtime, late night, long game, the New York Rangers get a big-time win at home. And all the khakis in the stands and all the yuppies that cheer for the Rangers are going absolutely ballistic as they take a 2-0 series lead, heading down into Raleigh to take on all the Caniacs in the next game.

The NHL is blasting the NBA in playoff electricity, that is for sure, but we'll be talking about everything. Shams Sharani will be joining us in about 37 minutes or so. P.K. Subban will join us in about 7 minutes or so. Mark Messier. The option. Moose. 16-time All-Star. 25-year NHL

vet. Former teammate of Wayne Gretzky, obviously, then he goes over to New York, wins another Stanley Cup. An absolute stallion and ESPN analyst. He'll be joining us in about an hour from now. And then J.J. will join us in the second hour because he buried Austin Rivers publicly. He bullied the hell out of him to the tune of a few million views. And obviously he wasn't the only one. There was a lot of people taking shots at the NBA fragility. Yeah. Yeah. The fragility

of the NBA players and what it takes to be in the NFL because they believe that Austin Rivers maybe skipped over that in his little 30-for-30 game. Sure. And then we'll have Patty Cavanaugh of Notre Dame lacrosse and the Cavanaugh lacrosse family joining us in the third hour on YouTube, ESPN+, and TikTok Live, which we're running out of time. Yeah, look out.

TikTok, we need somebody to buy that who has a lot of money because that's running out of time. I think that nine months is going to come up a little bit quicker than we could imagine. But we're still live on TikTok. Patty Kavanaugh, sixth overall pick last night in the PLO lacrosse draft. He goes to the Cannons to join his brother up there in Boston. And the Kavanaugh family is obviously fantastic. Notre Dame just won the ACC championship.

They're the reigning national champions. They're going to try to do the same damn thing, but look out. I've been told by Bobby Roode, Michigan's got a team. Bobby Roode. Bobby Roode told me. Hey, let's remember, lacrosse can't be a sport. People think curling and they think hockey. Lacrosse is actually Canada's sport, I do

believe. Yeah, there's a Canadian playing for Michigan that won the Big Ten and nobody really expected. Now, the Big Ten, nobody really takes seriously whenever you're talking about lacrosse from the little that I know. It's like the Ivy Leagues or the ACC or things like Michigan might have it. This might be the year Michigan

goes for it, but for us, we've always been Notre Dame boys because the Kavanaugh family has taken us in. That's right. Ripping twine, cradling like you wouldn't believe. This is what we do. Yep.

This is lacrosse. Learning from the best right there. Yeah, you're damn right. And then look at this. What? Boom. Switch hands. Look at this one.

How about the offhand? What? What? What? What? What? What? What?

What? What? What? What? What? What? What? That's what they say when they run down the field.

That's right. Bingo. All right, we'll talk to Patty Cavanaugh. I don't know how long that convo is going to go because, honest, I have not watched enough lacrosse games, so I don't know. But Notre Dame is going to win it again, and I'm happy about that. Talk Stables here. At Boss Conrad, Ty Schmidt.

A little USA right there on the chest, Con Man. Yeah, look, I mean. Yesterday you had Racist Turtle. Boy, after the Racist Turtle, I figured, you know, I'll come back with an eagle, and I'm sure someone out there will think that's racist as well. But, again, hey, what do you think? Bald eagle? Yeah, I'm sure there's someone out there.

You see those things fly across the sky. You see nothing short of majesty. They're the size of humans. They are. They're the size of little babies. Like a baby. 18-month-old. It's flying through the sky there, these bald eagles.

I love what you did to counter what happened yesterday with your shirt. Alongside nine-year NFL vet Darius J. Butler, we introduced to the world that these turtles have been racist all along. I had no idea. We've been trying to stick up for these turtles. You know, we need to figure out how to save these turtles' noses. Good people. Let's go through hell drinking out of paper to save these turtles.

And then all of a sudden we find out on May 7, 2024, are these people worth fighting for? Are these things worth fighting for? And then there was video damning evidence that said these turtles are racist as shit. And I was told by animal community, it's not that they're racist they just think dark things are dangerous what what is that right what is that okay okay good defense yeah okay that's even worse it's gotten even worse for these damn turtles so thank you to opening all of our eyes you know somebody had to do and i went down a little rabbit. Couldn't find any real answers to why, but I don't think it was the sea turtles, actually.

I think it was the land turtles. Not all turtles. So there's some good ones out there. Okay. Good people on both sides. Good to know. That's what he just said about that. I don't know if I said that, but...

Yeah, that's just good. That's how it sounded. All right, sea turtles are good, though. So maybe we do drink agave straws or whatever the hell else they got cooking over there. I like the plastic straw personally, but we do like sea turtles. They're not the racist ones. Okay.

Happy we got a little added update on the racism of the turtles that we learned about yesterday. 12-year NFL vet. Rap? Hey. Banger. Yeah. We got one. Banger.

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100 on the paint From Jody Breeze The video I think we got drone 8K footage Let's go Pac-Man Now's the time Yeah moving the needle Yeah I think we got drone 8K footage. Let's go, Pac-Man. Now's the time. Yeah, moving the needle.

Yeah, I think just want to move the needle. I hope so. And you're going to keep going. Just a little bit, but, you know, to let them know that we're really serious about what we're doing. And the music is really good. Yeah. Like, I drop a song every month about to put out an album. But I feel good about it, and it sounds good.

Okay, good. I'm happy to hear that. And that mental toughness, by the way, is the edge that some NFL guys potentially have over the NBA. Sure. Of course. You know, a lot of old school NBA guys, I think when they read what Austin said, they were like, hell yeah. And then they looked

at the modern setup for NBA guys and NFL guys and go, I don't know if now's the time to make that particular argument. You know, you go back in the day with like, I mean, Paul Pierce showing up with these big chains and he's hammer drunk talking his shit, doing his thing everywhere. Paul Pierce has the mindset, I think, of more of a football player than of an NBA player. And you go Kevin Garnett and you think about Allen Iverson, you think about these old school,

you think about that basketball, potentially. Now there's only a few guys like that in the NBA. I think that's why we all love Anthony Edwards so much. I think that's why we enjoy the hell out of what he's doing. It's like, oh, we got an old school, seems like dog who's not here to dap up. Now I'm not saying the NFL is as savage as it used to be, but the sport itself requires some physicality

and mental toughness. That did get missed in the convo, I think, between Austin yesterday with the 30 for 30, but that's basically the only thing the internet said. The internet was like, oh, okay, yeah, yeah, they'll last two snaps potentially on it all. I don't know if that's fair for everybody, but the NFL backers were much larger than the NBA backers.

A lot, lot louder. And look, I got respect for both. Obviously, world-class athletes on both ends. It's probably a handful maybe from both professional leagues that can probably have a chance to play in the other one. But you made a great point with the football being so specialized. Like, hey, you do this one thing, red area, we get in the five-yard line, we're throwing it up to you, LeBron, we're throwing it up to you,

whoever, so on. You can definitely do that more so. You can find a spot. If they wanted to nitpick, they could find a spot. And at the same time, it's a lot of corners out there. You can't put them into the red zone. You could find a spot. If they wanted to nitpick, they could find a spot. And at the same time, it's a lot of corners out there. They're not putting me into the red zone. For sure, for sure. You put they ass in in the middle of the field,

it's just going to be a rude awakening. I'm just saying that. I don't know if y'all seen some of the clips when Ray Lewis smacked Ocho. Just imagine seven foot two coming across the middle for a slant. Yeah, it doesn't happen anymore though. Now with new rules, we got to think about the modern rules.

Agreed, you can still hit people. A lot of BBs out there in the court play some top level first team all pro defense. So that was a whole other thing you didn't even think about because you automatically think like, can an NFL guy be a star in the NBA? And it's like, well, he didn't say that. He just said be in the NBA. It's like, oh, there's some smack in the floor

and then let alone whenever it gets underneath, you know, a little elbow in the back. That's some smack in the floor. Let alone whenever it gets underneath. A little elbow in the back. That's going to be a little bit different from a football guy. You can get into the intricacies of it all because Austin Rivers could say, you're telling me they couldn't get into first and goal from the half yard line? Let's say the Kansas City Chiefs. They got

Travis Kelsey, Rasheed Rice for now. Get your ass out of Dallas. Get out of Dallas. Come on. Come on. Like you got lucky with the first one. Lucky. We all know you got lucky with the first one. You know you got lucky with the first one.

Now, within months, same thing. And listen, I'm somebody that made a mistake. I mean, we have – We all made mistakes. Pats made – like literally people make mistakes. But at some point, you got to realize like, wow, I really, really dodged a – I'm going to get my ass back to Kansas City. Yeah, I need to, if I want it, I got to do it. If not, just completely away from it. Rasheed too damn talented, too young,

too much ahead of him. He's already won a Superbowl. It's like get your ass out of Dallas. What are we even doing? Focusing on football. Let's change your life forever as opposed to changing a night forever. Oh, let's have a good night. Okay. You can have a lot of those later Rasheed, whenever you become a guy, somebody needs to tell him that in his inner circle. And his inner circle might need to be completely changed as well

to even get him in that spot. I'm not saying it's easy. But let's say Rasheed Rice doesn't have his ass in jail before this football season, which he is trying, seemingly trying his best. You've got Hollywood Brown, Rasheed Rice, Xavier Worthy, and Travis Kelsey. Okay? So let's say they line them all up on one side. You've got Wemby.

On the other side, on first and goal from the half yard line, Andy Reid's going to figure out a way to get Wemby a touchdown. That is what Austin Rivers could just be like. He's in the NFL. Would he be able to last more than three plays? Absolutely not. Would he have more than one play that's scripted for him? Absolutely not. Could he get through a practice or a training plays? Absolutely not. Would he have more than one play that's scripted for him? Absolutely not. Could he get through a practice

or a training camp or anything? Absolutely not. But, first and goal in a half-yard line. He's scoring a touchdown. He's throwing the ball to the sky. Wemby's spiking. And that spike is coming from the highest. It has ever come down, ever. It was a

great conversation. I'm very thankful that it happened. Off-season combo. Be pressing his knees on that one. Yeah. Shots to the thighs. All right, let's give this guy, let's give him a bruise and a thigh. Hopefully we'll be able to break them. House of sport, this guy got involved. He'll be on in the second hour for sure. I saw CeCe Sabathia and some basketball players chime in. They go, let's not forget a lot of baseball guys. We had scholarships to play football or basketball. It's like, CeCe, you did.

Once again, we're talking about eras here. These baseball guys play one sport now. They're throwing balls all year round. CeCe, you maybe. Skeens. Skeens, definitely. Skeens, for sure. Skeens will be a left tackle. He can do anything. Okay, maybe. Skeens. Skeens, definitely. Skeens, for sure. Skeens would be a left tackle.

He could do anything. Okay, but let's relax. You know who nobody brought up? Who's that? Hockey players. They say these guys suck on land. You get them on ice, they're better than everybody. Joining us now is a man who was on TV last night, not talking though,

just taking in a double overtime thriller in New York City, Madison Square Garden. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, P.K. Subban. Yay! Yay! Hey, listen. Speaking of being on TV, I was a little bit disappointed. I got a couple texts to my phone.

Me and my best friend, he played, you know, put on, he put on three different jerseys in the NHL, played a couple games with Mets, and I hear Levy and Weeks, he says, he's my handler. Like, where's the TFESPN? We're at MSGg there's models everywhere like why not pan to a model and say hey you know what pk and you know chris these these ladies should go over and talk to these guys these are premier guys where was the tf like come on hey you look you had two you had three chains on you had your cologne chain and then two crosses we saw it they were on you for an uncomfortably long time while you were talking to somebody about something.

Looked like you had a great time. What a game. Hey, that's the first double overtime game of this playoffs, which is abnormal, I think. Abnormal, I think. Pat, Pat, I got to tell you right off the hop, I'm all in. I got the week off until May 13th, which is my birthday. But I am all in.

Happy birthday, PK. Happy birthday, PK. Happy birthday, PK. Thank you. It'll be on Monday. My birthday's the 13th, so I'm off for the week. They gave me the week off. I'm all in. Listen, I play for the Devils, but whether it's Celtics,

I'm all in. It doesn't matter. Knicks? I got the Knicks. I'm all in. Look at me. Rangers? I'm all in. Any game, I'll the Knicks. I'm all in. Look at me. Hey, Rangers, I'm all in. Any game, I'll wear any hat. I'm all in. And you know what? Florida.

In Florida, I was there for the Stanley Cup final last year. I probably spent more rooms at the Elbow Room than I think it's the B&T, T-Center, whatever. It's not MSG, but you know what? I'll throw an Elbow Room hat on. BK. Let's go. BK.

I'm involved. Let's go! I didn't know elbow room hat merch. Moving some merch down there. I like the fact you're like, hey, I got the week off, so if any of you guys want to give me free tickets to any of these games, I'd love to come. Celtics, Knicks, who gives a shit? Rangers, Panthers, who cares?

Bruins, who cares? I'm in on everybody. It's a wonderful time right now. And we were talking about this as the show started. NBA had two 20-point blowouts last night. Now, granted, incredible skill, incredible everything. You know, the Stars are being bored over there in Oklahoma City. And the Celtics, I mean, it's just like there's definite good teams. But the NHL last night, two overtime games,

let alone all of the series that have taken place, two Game 7 wild finishes in the first round. It's like hockey's killing it right now, PK, legitimately, especially last night it was on display fully. Well, this is the best time of the year to watch all sports, but I really believe it's the best time of the year. Well, that's not true. Yeah, what you're saying is dumb, PK.

And I don't have to have a full Austin River situation here, but obviously December, January, February are the best times for sports. Okay. I will give my respect to the NFL at that time,

of course. College ball as well. College football, yes. 100% baseball. All that stuff is great. No, no, no. Not baseball. We're not talking about baseball. We didn't say October. I gotta say, a Yankees game is great

to go and watch. I love it. I gotta get teed up on the back end. I gotta tie it in on the back end, Pat. Come on, I gotta get teed up. But you're right. got to tie it in on the back end, Pat. Come on. I got to get teed up. But you're right. Right now is magic.

Every single night it feels like. It's unbelievable. And, you know, MSG specifically is probably the best place in the world to watch pro sports. So it's really a privilege to be able to go there and watch. You know, but TD Garden, whether you're there, you're in Florida, whether you're watching the Celtics play, it's the best time of year. But specifically to hockey, I play, it's the best time of year.

But specifically to hockey, I really believe this is the best hockey we've seen in a long time. Watching that Dallas-Colorado series is going to be insane. And, I mean, look at the way it started, right? Three-goal lead, Colorado comes back. And I said earlier this season, I'm going to get to the Rangers in a second, but I said earlier this season, a few weeks ago get to the Rangers in a second, but I said earlier this season, a few weeks ago, that the Rangers might win the President's Trophy, but they're not the best team in the league. And I got a lot of heat for that.

People are like, what are you talking about? And now people are texting me different things saying, hey, man, maybe you would have been right. You got to put respect on what Nathan McKinnon has done this year and Kael McCarr, what he has done so far in his hockey career. And Miles Woods stepping up, huge overtime winner, who I played with in Jersey, by the way, super happy for him. But there's something special going on in Colorado and you got to be very weary of that team. That's a team that not enough people are probably talking about this year outside of

Nathan McKinnon. They've had some injuries, some new players come in, but I mean, this is going to be an unbelievable series. It's going to go back and forth. It's going to be a long series. But Colorado comes out of that. They're going to be very, very tough to beat. Personally, what I would like to see coming out of the West is I would love to see either Edmonton or Colorado come out of the West just because I think the Rangers are going to get to the finals, not to take away from Boston and how Swayman's playing. I know, I know. Swayman's playing great.

Florida is playing awesome. I love what's going on in the East, but I really would like to see the Rangers, seeing that team against either McDavid and McKinnon in the finals would be a dream for the NHL. I'd love to see that. But you know what? Hockey's at an all-time high. You don't want to miss a game right now. So I'm up late nights. I'm

watching games. I'm recording games. You don't want to miss anything. Yeah, I agree completely with your last sentence there. Now, when you said about the Rangers winning the President's Cup and then not being the best team, and then people text you saying you're right, it's like they're up 2-0 right now with the odds on favorite Carolina Hurricanes, and Shuster can stand on his damn head. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, PK,

to your point, it's awesome being a Bruins fan watching Swayman also stand on his head, but then last night you watch Igor Shusterkin and all of a sudden you do think, you know, if the Rangers have the entire team on offense and defense that they've had and then have Shusterkin playing the way he is now, it is clear that they're the best team. Do you think there is a way to beat them? Is there a formula right now to kind of take advantage of what the rangers don't do well or do they really do everything perfectly and it is going to be a tall task to beat them in seven games i like the way you're shister kid no diggity because i'm telling you right now when he's playing playing that way, I don't care whether it's Jeremy Swayman at the other end,

whether it's Nikolai Habibulin, whether it's Vasilevsky, whether it's Patrick Waugh, Martin Brodeur, the way he is playing. Patrick Waugh? Hey, stop! Patrick Waugh?

You better relax, Pernell. I'm not going to relax. Igor Shosturkin is absolutely filthy. He's the backbone of this hockey club, and he is going to be the main component of why I believe they can win the Stanley Cup this year. I mean, I watched. Carolina was the better team last night.

Anybody that says that they weren't didn't watch that game. All you were doing was talking to that dude the whole weren't watching again you weren't watching the game either whoa well i'm going to tell you something if i'm talking to females i ain't doing it out there so you can talk tell them tell me about talking to dudes all you want i ain't doing that i'm just saying when i saw you on camera talking to some dude they said you knew that dude they give a shot we're breaking down we're breaking down the game, but I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this. Igor Shostakhin,

he's not in net. You got Jonathan Quick, who's 100% capable, but Igor Shostakhin is bringing an element to the New York Rangers that not very many people are going to be able to actually capture because the belief

that you can do whatever the hell you want, knowing that if you give up a breakaway a two-on-one that your best chance of coming out of it on the positive end is having him back there to cover up the mistakes and right now i don't think there's another goaltender jeremy swayman playing lights out unbelievable probosky playing great the guy right now for me is igor shisterkin that you want in net no No matter what game it is, game one, game seven, I want that guy in net. And to be clear, PK was a part of a couple Igor chants last night and watched him have 50.

No, I did not chant. You didn't get the video of me chanting. I did not chant. I did not. Not once? No, I had to high-five a couple fans. I'm not going to get jumped at MSG I gotta give a

You know what I mean You definitely did The whoa Hold on Let me tell you this right now I can't stand that goal song And I'm going to tell you why I can't stand it Because the Kitchener Rangers

The Kitchener Rangers in the OHer rangers in the ohl used to have that same damn goal song they have the same jerseys they had the best crowd in major junior 12 000 every game and they spanked them we were in the memorial cup we beat them in the round robin we meet them in the semi-final and they pump us my last game in junior eight like seven or eight two or something like that my last game in junior eight like seven or eight two or something like that my last game in junior i had to listen to that song sorry about it pk 12 000 in a barn they deserved it yeah i'm so shell-shocked by that song i'm starting to like it like i've been i've heard it so many times i'm like i can't even hate on the song. I'm like,

maybe I deserve. Maybe this is a sign. Maybe I got to accept it. What is the Igor chant? What's the Igor chant? Oh, the Igor chant. Sick. There's some massive drum. Igor! Igor! Yeah. You were doing that all night. We know you were doing that all night.

That's why you're like, Swayman, that's the wrong team. That's a different sport. Nick, Nick, Nick. I was saying hockey. Todd's got a question for you. Yeah, PK, in terms of the psyche of a team, I know you said that you think Dallas and Colorado is going to go the distance,

but for both teams that lost last night, when Dallas is up 3-0 in the first period and then they end up losing that game, and then obviously is up three nothing in the first period and then they end up losing that game and then obviously carolina you go into two ots and then lose where i mean obviously if this series is one one it's much different going to carolina but as a team like how do both of those teams that lost that last night like respond because i feel like both of those losses were just backbreaking and demoralizing. Well, I look at Florida, the difference between Florida and Colorado, two really good teams, but the difference is Colorado's got a very explosive offense.

Right? Like, Florida doesn't have anybody close to Kael McCarr, and, you know, they might have some really good players. Barkov, second to no one, two-way, selkie guy. I get it. Matthew Kachuck, the intangibles that he brings. But skill-wise, Nathan McKinnon's on a planet of his own. So when you have two guys like that that can facilitate and draw attention, you can pull yourself back into a game 3-0. But the way Florida plays, they play a different style. And their power play's not going to be

like a Colorado's or a Tampa Bay. It'll be really good, but they do it by committee. So for them to get down by a couple goals early would be a lot more difficult for them to come back than, let's say, a Colorado that can push the pace. I was not surprised that Colorado was able to come back because you look at Dallas coming off that Game 7 win. They got adrenaline going on. It's hard to sustain that, though, for 60 minutes. And when you're looking at championship pedigree nathan mckinnon mitchushkin mccarr all these guys miles wood as much as he wasn't on the

championship team that's a veteran player that plays playoff style hockey so they're ready for that moment to grind it out and come back i think with boston they were just on such a high but give credit to mr montgomery and getting everybody involved You look at their goal scorers, geeky. Brandon Carlo had sort of a suspect first round, takes a step forward in game one, is looking a lot better now. So they're getting depth scoring. Also, Brazzo, this Brazzo kid's playing well. So Boston got everybody involved.

But going down 3-0, like, for Colorado, I wasn't surprised that they came back. That's a team that's built to do something like that. It seemed like Nicky Skates and our Canadian Gumpy were like, you go up big early. That's the asshole thing they talked about right there. Yeah. That was the thermos that Steve Levy brought up that said it's so ridiculous. It is so ridiculous.

Steve Levy, listen to me. Steve Levy's on a health kick right now. He comes in and, you know, I see him. He's eating his protein bars. He's taking care of himself. Listen, if Steve Levy drank half of this, he wouldn't have to eat any protein bars. He'd be well on his way. So Steve Levy should take a page out of the professional athlete's book and drink some water.

I drink eight liters a day. Steve, just get into this. Don't worry about my canteen. What is eight liters? What is eight liters in America? This is four. So four liters is a gallon. So, right?

Four liters is a gallon, I'm pretty sure. No way. There's no way there's two gallons in there. That's two gallons in there? Four. Four liters. This is four liters. I drink two of these a day.

Oh, that's one gallon right there. That's like milk right there. That's a gallon of milk right there. But Pat, you gotta remember, I'm training. Like, I work out in the morning, lift in the morning, cardio, Epsom salt bath, massage. Like, you gotta, you just basically keep drinking all day. Two gallons of water a day.

That's so much. Double fisting all day, Coach. Where's my elbow room hat? Photoshopped that. Someone photoshopped that, please. Photoshopped that. It's not going to be good for you, Pete. The elbow room saves you, though.

D-Bot's got a question for you about what you were saying about Florida there. Yeah, you kind of mentioned it. We've got a lot of shots on goal. Obviously, Boston's coming in hot. But what are the adjustments going for Florida? How do we turn it around and get a dub in the second game? Well, I got Florida winning this series still. I'm not worried about them.

I still think that they're going to find their game. I thought the first round they didn't play their best game and they still beat Tampa. They're still trying to find that. Listen, look what happened to Vegas, man. Vegas went all the way to the cup final last year. You can see that they didn't have that bounce in their step. It's hard.

It's very, very hard. You go that whole distance to the Stanley Cup final. You try to recover. You have new players coming into your team. It's difficult. So for Florida, I have confidence this is the same core group of players. Yeah, they picked up Tarasenko. Yeah, they got Mikola on the back end.

But it's pretty much the same team. So for them, they know what it's going to take to grind this thing out and i think they will i would expect them to win game two um that would be my expectation and i would expect them to play a whole lot better than they did in game one okay we'll see we'll see yeah we'll see i mean everyone at espn except for steve levy saying that so you might as well i mean it's a broken record at this point who gives you well you know levy's picking boston no matter what. You know he's picking Boston. Yeah, but literally every other hockey person at ESPN picked Florida.

I mean, that was wild to see. Yeah, asinine. That was wild. With Swayman, too. It's ridiculous. Patty Maroon's up there. Hey, I just collect Stanley Cobb for it. They finally win a game seven in overtime at home to get over the hump.

I mean, come on. What are you even talking about? Here's the reason for it. Here's the reason for it. Here's the reason for it. I think everybody who played the game of hockey or watches a lot just appreciates Florida's team and the way that they play. They got a perfect blend of everything.

They got great goaltending. They got some skill on the back end. Basically, all their defensemen play with sandpaper. All their forwards up front play with sandpaper and can score goals. Reinhardt, Verhage, like no one's picking Reinhardt and Verhage with their playing style out as superstars. But Reinhardt's scoring 60 goals. Verhage scores.

I think he's got like seven overtime winners in the playoffs or whatever it is. Like, these guys can play. So, I think when you look at their team, there's a lot to love there with their team. And I think there's no reason. Like, I wouldn't expect them not to be a favorite with the way they play. And then couple that with Paul Maurice and great coaching. They're an easy team to love.

With the Bruins, I felt that they left us wanting more. In the first round, you go up 2-0. You don't like the Bruins. You don't like them. You don't like them. He has a hat for every other team. But the Bruins. But the Bruins, yeah.

No B on his – Hey, I picked – listen, it's nothing personal. I picked Posta. Listen, I said Posta and Lindholm got to step up. I wanted to see them step up. And I love those players. I love Posta. I love Marshawn.

You know I love Marshawn even though I battled against him. Against? Love their game. And I love their team. All great guys. JVR, stop it. JVR, Carlo on the back end. I know all these guys.

Swayman, I love them too, but they got to show me more. I need that killer instinct in Boston. 5-1. I don't know what happened. It was 5-1. 5-1. It was 5-1. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I get it. I get it, but it's when you're faced with adversity. Listen. By being up 3-1 and then it being tied and then going to a seven-game series and winning in overtime like that adversity? The Toronto Maple Leafs were this close

to creating history and sending the Boston Bruins up. When you really think about it, but it didn't happen. It did not happen. It did not happen, but honestly, Toronto was the better team. The second half of that round, Toronto was the better team.

Best of seven. Okay. I guess there's some LSD in that Epsom salt bath today. Yeah, what do we got? What are we sipping on up there? A little lean? I don't know if you guys follow me or not, but you need to follow my videos because I gave Boston their flowers.

I called out Pasternak, called out Limholm, and I gave them their flowers when they stepped up. Right? Lindholm gets the big goal. Pasternak gets a goal. Lindholm assists on the big goal. I said, the big guy's got to step up, and they stepped up. I'm giving Boston their flowers. I'll be at the game on Friday. I'll be there.

I'll be watching the game on Friday in Boston. I'll be there. I just watched. I'll be watching the game on Friday in Boston. I'll be there. I just watched you hit Marshan pretty good or Marshan pretty good. Be careful. Yep. And this is why Brad and I get along because we have an understanding. We have an understanding. Brad plays within the rules, doesn't

look at me, and he doesn't have to worry about that. Night, night. You know? It's quite the hit. Night, night, Brad. Yep. That's what he said god bless god god bless bob cole bob cole who just passed away did the call on this actually on this game god bless him and his family um but that was man that felt good uh there you go running away from sean thornton yeah it makes sense i'd run too Well, yeah, you'd run away from him too. That's what I said.

Yep, that's what I said. That's what I said. Pick your battles. Absolutely. Yeah, we love it. No part of him. PK, you do have quite a Boston bias. And the hit was awesome, though.

Yeah, be careful up there. Where's that Boston hat? You don't have one. Where's that? No, no, no. That doesn't count. That doesn't count. I didn't see any Pacers. Jay Tatum. That doesn't count. See any Pacers here.

Yeah, I didn't see any Pacers. What about the Pacers? Too small of a... Jake Tatum. Jake Tatum, kid. Yep. You're old. Lay up.

Yeah, absolutely. You can play in the NBA. Oh, yeah. You need to throw your name into this NBAba nfl conversation pk you look natural yeah right i mean pk is looking for tickets to whatever i'm actually going to be up there in the oven in boston next week let's go south there i think there's a game next Tuesday. J-Tayton. Yeah, you want J-Tayton. J-Tayton. Euro.

Tayton. Oh, you love the Euro step. Hey, hey, hey. So I'm just going to say this because you're a hockey player and this is normal. You can't play catch, right? You can't throw anything. Are you nuts? You can't.

You can't. No way. If you were to have a ball. Okay, hold on. Let's make this clear Best athletes in the world are hockey players We did this yesterday We don't want to hear this Everything was going well

Everything's going well We can throw balls We can throw footballs We can throw baseballs We can shoot basketballs We'll give you the toughest That's probably where it stops. They don't sniff Vanderstopping, though.

Yeah, tough is, yeah. No one's bringing up the G1 racers. But the toughness of hockey players is certainly, that is peak. That's 99. That's 99. Yeah, their attribute. They are 99 on that particular one. But just playing, you know, you just accidentally throw a football at a hockey player.

Can you believe I played 13 years? 13 years and my face still looks like this. Can you believe that? It's unbelievable. After 13 years. Crazy. Well, we got a massage. We got a bath.

We got a workout. We got some Botox. And also, yeah, also. No Botox. No black, no crack. No Botox. Well, that's what I didn't want to say. Berries and juices. Berries and juices, also. No Botox. No black, no crack. No Botox. Well, that's why I didn't

want to say it. berries and juices. Berries and juices. Berries and juices. Works differently for people from the Caucus Mountains. Tom's got a question

for you about, you know, big time shots. We almost, we almost saw one last night. Yeah, PK,

obviously your hit on Marshawn that we saw there was awesome and clean. True, but we have seen in the past, I think it was game five against Sidney Crosby with a cheap shot chicken wing that won them that series. And Trouba last night, just an absolute torpedo trying to take another guy's head off.

Is that a guy you just love to have on your team and hate to play against? Or what do you think about old Troubs? Well, first of all, if i told you i didn't love everything about this clip right now i'd be lying i love it i love the nonsense i love the stuff that toes the line i mean that elbow hits them if that elbow hits martin hs in the chin troop was gone for probably the rest of the series, maybe more, right? But it doesn't – no, no, let's be honest, right? Now, I don't think the intent – I'm going to go – I'm going to take myself into Jacob Troob because I played against him.

I know him. I love Troobs, and I love his game. Look at the kick to the head. I do not want to ever see him. I do not want to ever see him stop hitting and trying to hit guys like that. I want to see more of it, actually, and I love it, and I think we need it in the game. I try to protect guys like Troops because it's an element in the game

that we don't want to leave, but it's got to be clean, and I think Troops has been really good at that, at hitting guys devastating hits, but doing it with his shoulder. When I played, I tried to do it with my hip a lot more because i'd be skating backwards and try to catch guys with their head down that way troops is really really good timing wise of stepping up and hitting guys forward and when you do that it's difficult when guys switch switch angles and switch positions so martin in that last moment kind of bails out and, true, but the reason why the elbow came up first

was to brace himself from hitting the glass, but that elbow came up a lot earlier. It came up a little bit earlier. So what I, yeah, I'm glad, put it this way. I'm just happy that the elbow didn't hit him because then we'd be talking about something else. But I loved it. When I saw this on the, sitting in the stands, I mean, every fan was on their feet.

I love to see that in hockey. You just got to keep that elbow down. So I'd like to see it with the shoulders. Okay, kick to the back of the head is not a penalty? It was an accident. Well, that's my – okay, that's my accident. I mean, come on, guys. Just kicking a guy in the back of the head.

I mean, it shouldn't have – accident or not. Hold on. Here's what I'll say, though. Players, hold on kicking a guy in the back of the head. I mean, it shouldn't have – accident or not. Hold on. Here's what I'll say, though. Players, hold on. Who's on the ice? Hold on. You step on the ice at MSG. Like, before a game, when you're looking at the lineup

and you're looking at a roster, I'm looking at it. I'm looking at Boston. I see a Ginla, Horton, Thornton, Paille, Campbell. I see Thornton. I see Mcille, Campbell. I see Thornton. I see McQuaid. I see Boychuk. I see Chara. I see Recchi.

I see Seidenberg. I see, like, I'm seeing a list. Behrens. Like, I'm seeing a list of guys. I'm saying, okay, they got 11 guys on this team. So I can't step on the ice without having my head on a swivel that there's 11 potential killers on the other team that could take my head off if my head is down and i'm a marked man so for players that step out on the ice today and this is where i think it's lost in the game guys step on the ice

like they're out for a walk in in battery park here in five guys when they should be walking down the street like they're in Harlem. Like, guys, you gotta have your head on the swivel. You can't be skating through the middle of the ice with your head down. Like, there's a killer out there. Like, that's Ruba guys for real. So, you gotta know. No, you gotta know that he's on the ice.

Let's know our enemy. Yeah, we gotta know. Yeah, man. Like, it's part of the game. And I don't want to go on a way because guys are out there lackadaisical for escape like you gotta know that a guy like truba is going to throw he's looking for the big hit so he's got to keep his elbow down he's got to hit clean but players got to keep their head up i'm sick and tired of seeing guys skate around with their head down yeah and we as fans and internet people are happy because, I mean, the gif of him just torpedoing himself into the glass.

It was just like that dude with the judge in Vegas. You know, that was literally what – it was an immediate thought. It was an immediate thought. As soon as you see him fly, it's like – and then also yesterday. It is. It was literally the same thing. The jersey on that guy. That guy's going to jail forever.

He knows. Elbow kill early. I think he was told, like, yeah, yeah. It was literally the same thing. That guy's going to jail forever. He knows. I think he was told, like, yeah, you're going to jail forever. He's like, well, at least one last. That guy was so good in high school. I got a question, though. I got a question.

You think Martin Aitches is going to be looking over his shoulder every time he takes a breakout pass stepping up the middle of the ice for the next six games? Or for the next five games? I think anybody playing the Rangers, I think they're thinking that now, yeah. Well, that's what I mean. Message is set. Look out. Let's not clap. You're not pity patting like you hockey players with a football.

Hardball hockey. Hey, happy birthday, man. We appreciate you. You're not back on TV until next week because it's your birthday week? Yeah. So, well, they didn't give me off for my birthday. I did two games with Bucci solo last week. So, Messon Leaves are doing some games this week.

They did one with Kevin Weeks last week, who you saw. You know, listen, I think they lost some good looks on the desk last night, but that's just my opinion. So, you know, but yeah, I'll be off for another week and I'll be back either the 13th or after that. Way to go. Ladies and gentlemen, P.K. Savannah. Yeah, P.K. All the time before. He's the best.

He has merch for every team that's still in the playoffs. It's unbelievable. I've got a week off, by the way, willing to travel. Not interested to come to Indiana, though. Yeah, not a single Pacer or anything. Well, what's the point of having that, though? I mean, what are we talking about? You need to have the merch for the teams that are going to go the furthest

so you can wear it. Pacers are playing the Knicks this evening at 8 p.m. Eastern. I assume they'll get screwed by the league and the refs again. But if they don't, Pacers win in five. This is a Pacers in five type situation. You think Tyrese Halliburton is going to have the same offensive performance that he had in the first game? No.

You think these refs are going to be as blatantly, obviously biased towards the Knicks in this next game? No. Pacers win this one, and we keep it moving. Bring it back home to the loudest barn in the NBA, Cambridge Fieldhouse. Come on now. And then all of a sudden, T.J. McConnell's coming to life.

He had 20 last series. He'll have 30 this one. I mean, the Knicks are dead. I think Reggie Miller's going to be in the building too. No. Is Larry? That's who they need. They need the legend in there.

Larry Bird was obviously a part of building the teams of the past that went to the Eastern Conference Finals, ran into the Heatles every single year, and he does have deep history in the state of Indiana. But Reggie, obviously, just, you know. Oh, yeah. The mural up on Mass Ave, too. I mean, Reggie.

In Madison Square Garden is that hole. Remember? I remember. So if he's there calling a game. Yeah. Need to get Rick Smiths there. Yeah. He's there.

Rick Smiths at every game. Jermaine O'Neal. Bring him back. Love Jermaine O'Neal. Jermaine O'Neal. Bring him back. Love Jermaine O'Neal. He had a club here in town. That left strip. Dog. Good times.

Got a little violent sometimes, but it was a good time. Dislocated. Talk about a guy who could play NFL. That's club life. Speaking of club life, Rasheed Rice, get out of Dallas. Yeah, please. Hey, Seth, let's get back to Kansas City. Yeah, not even clubs there.

Get out of Kansas City. No. I don't know. OCD's face too, what's it called? Who? OCPs. OCPs, son of a bitch. OCPs, phase two.

Did you hear about this? It's not OTAs right now. It's Off-Season Conditioning Program Phase Two. Did you know that? What's the difference? Well, that's what we had to figure out for 10 minutes. Matt Conte of the Indianapolis Colts PR guy, he's one of the... I said, we're calling OTAs too many things.

Yeah, it's not all OTAs anymore. So none of it makes sense. Speaking of not making sense, why wasn't Jamal Murray suspended indefinitely for throwing a towel in a heating pad on a court? Somebody could have got really injured. That's right. Kick him off the tour, Doug. Now. Forever. Instead, it's just a fine. It could have got really injured. That's right. Kick him off the tour, Doug. Now.

Forever. Instead, it's just a fine. It's a big one. It's bullshit. No, it's only 3% of his annual salary. But it's still a big fine

for a basketball fine. I think.3 is what we saw. Yeah, not 3%. Whatever. Yeah, those basketball players make a lot of money.

Green was upset. Joining us now, a lot of people were upset they were on TV. Get this guy out of the league. Get this guy out of the league. Get this guy out of the league. He has a lot of history of being a full-blown asshole.

I think they were holding out against him. Oh, he doesn't. He posted that thing on the Snap Story. What was that thing? He is Canadian, right? Let's get to a man who maybe knows more than we do about how it became a fine as opposed to a suspension. That's got a lot of people who are journalists up in arms.

Ladies and gentlemen, senior NBA insider for the Athletic Stadium and FanDuel TV, Shams Sharangia. Yeah, Shams! Shams, kick him off the tour! Why'd we end up with just a fine? Because our source, Sizz, who did not want to be named, told us yesterday this is probably going to be a fine. We source says who did not want to be named told us yesterday this is probably going to be a fine we reported that yesterday but some people thought it was a suspension coming

ends up just being a fine how'd we get here and what are your thoughts on it yeah i had to confirm you guys on that news uh substantial fine a hundred thousand dollars i mean listen uh i think you said it right there jamal murray not necessarily known as someone who's got a rap sheet not necessarily someone that's known to have a history of doing this. Even the referees, from what I'm told, they felt, even after the game, even after reviewing the footage of the heat pad at one point, the towel at one point being thrown at them, they felt like Jamal Murray did it out of frustration.

He's dealing with a calf injury. There were a couple plays during that game where he felt like he was fouled. He should have gotten a call. Mike Malone, we saw him come out on the court. And the fact that the referees didn't even give him a technical or eject him. And the referee said after the game, even if he threw that at us, we would have just given him a technical foul. We wouldn't even have ejected him.

So I think you put all those factors in play. And the league, Pat, and the NBA, they have conversations with the players. They have conversations with the referees before they make a judgment on whether it's a suspension, whether it's a fine. Yeah, what about journalists? They talk to journalists? Good question. Well, you know, I'm talking to people. Me personally.

You're talking to them. I'm in the weeds on it. But they spoke to Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray showed a level of contrition. He understood. He took some responsibility of the heat of the moment, how frustrated he was. And fortunately, no one did get hurt. Fortunately, Jamal Murray's aim, whether if he was aiming it out of frustration,

it literally hit the ground both times. It didn't go anywhere. It didn't impact anyone. So I'm sure that played a part that no one was injured no one was hurt but listen jamal murray and this to me is a microcosm of this entire series minnesota anthony edwards these guys are dogs they're bringing it so like they're bringing it to them like they're punching them in the mouth every game and they're're making them their... Yeah, not really. They're putting them into so much frustration right now. It's palpable. We saw

it on Jamal Murray, but Game 3 is Friday, and Jamal Murray will be in action. They're not actually punching them in the mouth, which leads to the whole NFL-NBA conversation that's been taking place, but that Timberwolves defense has been locked down on old Jamal Murray from what we've seen and obviously frustration grows I'm happy nobody's suspended

especially in the biggest games of the year having a star out that leaves an asterisk for everything I don't know why everybody is so suspension hungry for people especially if the people involved are cool with it not happening but I guess what those folks are worried about is obviously the world mostly but they don't want this to become a thing, right? Nobody wants this to become a pattern, and we're not assuming that this will be the case. Yeah, no one wants this to be a thing. And there has been precedent when players, I remember Udonis has them through his mouth guard at an official in 2006. He got suspended one game.

But Jamal Murray has no history of this. He has no history, no rap sheet. He's got no past as far as demonstrative actions toward an official so history plays a role in this right and draymond green has been suspended for games based on history and i saw draymond green came out and made a pretty good statement as far as the first thing everyone rushed to when this happened with jamal murray is why not suspend him but let let's look at the situation, talk to the referees, talk to the player, talk to the people involved. And at the end of the day, Joe Dumars, the people at the league office,

they make a recommendation out of silver. They all huddle and they talk about it. And then their decision was to fine Jamal Murray. I mean, $100,000 is a pretty sizable fine for the NBA. And they gave it to him, and now he's going to learn. I don't think anyone expects Jamal Murray to be throwing heat packs or heat pads on the floor anytime soon.

How does the NBA pay structure work with playoffs? For the NFL, you get your contract through 18 weeks. I guess there's some teams that pay you around. That's not what I've ever heard. But 18 weeks, you get your contract. So a massive check, game check.

Game check's a big deal. It's talked about like, would you put a game check on it? Because it's huge, obviously. Then playoffs, everybody is paid the exact same thing. So you've got a lot of star players taking massive pay cuts. And then you've got a lot of young guys getting a massive pay upgrade. So how does it work in the NBA? Are they making their same checks from the regular season, like $100,000?

Is he just playing for free for the next couple games? So how does it work in the NBA? Are they making their same checks from the regular season, like $100,000? Is he just playing for free for the next couple games? Is there a set way of how they pay during the playoffs over there? So every player in the regular season, their deals over the course of the entire calendar year, it's based on however the player's contract is. There are some players, Pat, that get 80%, 50%, 60% of their entire salary in one lump sum in a month, whatever the case may be. I remember a few years ago, Ben Simmons, his check, he was getting 50% of his check on two different dates.

At one point, players have that in their contract. But in the playoffs, there's something called playoff bonuses, right? So depending on how far you advance, if you get to the finals, if you win the championship. And so there's always playoff bonuses playoff shares sometimes for players that make so much money the playoff share is so nominal in terms of their full salary that i i've heard of guys donate their salaries to their players or staffers their teammates and things like that that's how nominal some of those playoff shares are but it is a good amount for players that are on the bench

back of the bench those cloud bonuses do hit big okay so it's not really even a discussion like the nba is not paying everybody like the nfl pays i think for the playoffs everybody now the nfl is making out like bandits because the amount of money that they're making on these playoff games versus what they're paying everybody but it's just in the nfl it's all just become like yep that's how it works and if you make the super Super Bowl, I think when I went there, it was like an extra maybe $170,000 or $250,000. I forget what exactly it was. So a lot of teams are like, hey, another week's another check.

Another week's another check, and the check gets bigger and bigger. NBA, it doesn't sound like that's the case unless you negotiate in there. Now, let's talk about the playoffs in the NBA. Ty has a question for you, Shams. Yeah, Shams, I know the other night the Knicks and Pacers came down to the wire. It was pretty solid. But for the most part, the playoffs have absolutely stunk thus far. A lot of blowouts, not very many close games.

Why do you think that is? We heard going into the playoffs, right from round one, it was like, hey, no one can compete with the Celtics. They're just going to beat the shit out of everybody. And on the other side, it was kind of the N and the T-wolves have obviously taken it to them. But why is there like no parody whatsoever? It seems like the better teams are just winning and they're doing it handedly.

And these games are basically over with, you know, in the third quarter. Well, in the Eastern conference, I think that's definitely been the case. And I think, uh,

you know, you have to give a lot of credit. I do think the Philly, uh, New York series, I think that was, that wasn't exciting a lot of credit i do think the philly uh new york series i think that was that was an exciting series even though it ended in six games uh you know i think that was an exciting or five games like it was an exciting series overall there were highlight moments but listen out east i mean it's tough i mean the orlando cleveland series that

wasn't something that was even i think people around the league were focused on until it got to a game seven and that game was so low scoring but to me the western conference is where it's at like even seeing the rise of Anthony Edwards and how Minnesota played Phoenix and Phoenix has got their three stars and seeing the way Anthony Edwards went in there and just absolutely dominated that series and now the run that he's on against Denver and the reigning champions like that's nothing to sneeze at I think the Clippers Maveravericks series was great, even though Kawhi Leonard was out.

I'm sneezing at it. Beat the piss out of it, buddy. 20-20. These are good storylines for the teams that are winning, obviously. Oh, yeah. I think last night was tough. Oklahoma City-Dallas. I do expect more out of that series.

I think that series will have a chance to go six or seven games. I do think Dallas, the way they're playing, Luka Doncic last night, 6-19. Very similar to the way they started out that Clippers series. Lose game one, feel that series out. We'll see what happens in game two. I think that series has some potential as well.

We'll see. If Denver wins game three, it's not out of the realm of possibility that they can make a comeback as well. They are the reigning champs. We could be having a seven-game series story as opposed to each individual game story. I can conference i can't i can't speak for the eastern conference i can't speak for boss well you didn't even tell us that the cabs in orlando magic were even playing so we didn't even know until game seven happened it was like wait a bit i love spider mitchell i love that they did the heat thing during halftime i i didn't even know

they were in the damn tournament i had no idea those games were happening well i get it but also isn't part of the problem. Just because it goes seven games doesn't necessarily mean it's a good series. If one team is just winning by 20 points every game and then they get down to a game seven, it's not just like, oh boy, we got a game seven. It's like, well, yeah, the series as a whole, though, has

stunk. Yeah, I mean, there's been some dominating performances. Kyrie will wake up at some point, we think. I hope so, though. And then we think Joker is going to wake up, even though it seems like the Timberwolves are okay with stepping on people to sleep. Let's go basketball. Shout out Jaden McGann. Remember, we were talking about his extension

back in October. We've got to give him his flowers. He's locking up. 94 feet. I love that. I like good defense right now in the NBA. Quick question about the story of the NBA instead of the blowouts and the playoffs. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Sugar Shams, do you think that you could cover the NFL,

or are you strictly an NBA insider? Do you think you have what it takes to cover the NFL, be an NFL insider? Are you mentally tough enough? Listen, I'm going to let the Ian Rappaport's of the world do their thing. I ventured down that lane a few times. You know, what I didn't realize last year during the draft, I think I put out the number third pick. And what I didn't realize is you can make it like the trades happen in real time in the NFL draft, right?

So like the trade happens and the guy will go on stage with the hat on. That doesn't happen in the NBA. So, you know, there's a little bit of an adjustment period. I think there's some lessons that need to be learned when it comes from NBA-NFL crossover that I've experienced. But could I? I mean... You NBA folks are so arrogant.

You think you can do everything. Okay, I know Austin a little bit. I saw his comments. I covered him as a player. I love comments. I covered him as a player. I think the point, it's an interesting point. What we hear is you hear about NFL players or players that are growing.

What I hear a lot when I talk to NBA players, they spoke about how they used to play football a lot growing up. Then they switched sports because of the safety, because of how difficult it was. Physicality. Physicality of the sport is just next level like it is legitimately apples and oranges it's a whole nother beast it's a whole nother animal guys transfer over to the other sport and play basketball so giving given that like i don't hear about basket i mean how

many out of you guys that's your thing how How many NFL players you know played basketball, were better at basketball, and then switched over to the NFL? Were there any? I don't know. Oh, there were a lot. Literally, I watched. We only get these highlights. I know Antonio Gates. I know Antonio Gates played. Like the Nate Robinson of the world. Eric Swope played basketball.

These guys played football, but then they eventually fully focused their attention on basketball. Charlie Ward. That might be the greatest argument that the NBA could have, is that there have been college basketball players go play in the NFL, but have there ever been NCAA D1 football players go play in the NBA? Charlie Ward.

It's hard. Boom. Okay. Heisman. He went into a long career. Sean, who would you pick right now that could go and play in the NFL that's in the NBA? That's a great question. I know a guy.

Zion. Yep. I mean, Zion is a physical specimen. I mean, he would. See, but the thing is, he's got the size. He's got the frame. He's got everything. I mean, Derek Fox, he's got the size. He's got the frame. He's got everything. I mean, Derek Fox, I mean, wide receiver.

I can see wide receiver quarterback. He's got wheels. He's fast as hell. He's got wheels. I think Anthony Edwards could play. You just put him somewhere. Hey, this is what you're going to play. His baseball quote.

I think he would figure it out. I can see that. Yeah, I enjoy the chatter just because we get a chance to talk about how athletic all of our professional athletes are because there's freaks that are out there and there's one of them. There is one of them.

That ball was definitely deflated before this photo. No, that was fully paid. That's why it'd be great to have. Anyways, we appreciate the hell out of you, Shams. We'll continue to chat with you all hopefully through the playoffs. You're the man. Keep it going. Appreciate y'all. And by the way, we are getting bangers. We'll continue to chat with you all, hopefully through the playoffs. You're the man. Keep it going. Appreciate y'all. And by the way, we are getting bangers. We are getting bangers. Next round.

One after the other. I'm talking about the beef. I'm talking about... Oh, yeah. Well, that one seems to be... That's a capone. I'm talking about the songs. Yeah, banger. You're talking about the drive-by shooting Tuesday. Way to make fun of it, Shams.

Ladies and gentlemen, Shams Sharani. Okay, banger. You're talking about the drive-by shooting too. Is that you? Way to make fun of it, Sean. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Serrano. You're making time. Okay, Sean. Hope you're happy. Sports. Are wonderful. Even the debate about sports, playing other sports, and sports being the greatest of all time is not debatable.

The Talks at Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. USA! USA! USA! What a shirt. Thank you. I appreciate that. There's one thing we can all agree on is if it was a country versus country, NBA versus NFL, we're beating the piss out of everybody. Think about that. Riddle me that. Hey, Europe, put together a football team.

Go ahead, all your countries as one and then come over and play well so flag football is becoming an olympic sport i do believe so we're about to kind of see a version of football that is an actual football but it is enough of football for football fans to get behind it against other countries and i've heard about academies in other play like germany i think has some yeah i think england has some academies they're learning football since they were little kids. When I grew up, I grew up playing soccer. So I hated when everybody was like, well, America is so far behind on soccer

and they're never going to be able to catch up. It's like I've been playing since I'm three years old, so how far behind am I versus some other country? I felt like it was an excuse. I felt like it was a bullshit excuse. But with football, legitimately, they are far behind. At this stage of things.

But at basketball, they are... Yeah, they're catching up. Hey, that video, Luca posted a video giving respect to an environment, I don't know, maybe in Serbia. I'm going to find it right now because it is that good. It was amazing watching what they have done with basketball internationally. It just, you know they have done with basketball internationally.

It just, you know, flares and shit, the chanting and how loud it is. It's like basketball has become an international sport very quickly, and they've become very powerful. Oh, yeah. I mean, you look at the league right now. SGA, Greek Freak, obviously Joker, Luka. Joel. Joel and B. Like, yeah, they are definitely catching up.

But, you know, I still take our five. Yeah. NFL's five? Well, both, I still take our five. Yeah. NFL's five? Well, both. NFL and NBA. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to win the Olympics.

No matter what. Yeah. So don't be doing anything stupid in other countries and acting like you're going to beat us because you're not. Because LeBron's playing. Not exactly. And J.J. Reddick's coaching. Just like he's going to be coaching Los Angeles Lakers.

It seems like that's really gaining. Yeah, that's gaining some traction. That's gaining a lot of steam. Feels like he's the only guy potentially that could maybe do this at this stage of the entire LeBron thing. I guess. I just, I don't know. What do you mean you don't know? Nothing against J.J. Redick, but it's just like,

if you're coming in and it's basically like, listen, you're the head coach, but the plan is you're going to do just whatever the hell LeBron says. The Flint Tropics, bro. And you're going to draft this son. Sure, I get it, but what happened to the Flintropics? They didn't make it. Yes.

They didn't make it. They won the Flint Michigan Mega Bowl, but they did not make it to the NBA. They won fourth place. Okay, is that good enough? If the Lakers were to win fourth place right now, they would be jacked right now. Fogle won a championship, and they said, you know what? You sawed off son of a bitch. Get out of town. That wasn't good enough? If the Lakers were to win fourth place right now, they would be jacked right now. The Vols won a championship, and they said, you know what? You sawed off son of a bitch. Get out of town.

That wasn't good enough. Okay, we won 60 games. We should have won 70 games with that roster. What about Darvin Ham? What'd they say to him? They basically just said, like, hey, listen, you suck at your job, and we're done with the excuses, okay? You can't, yeah, LeBron may be a little long in the tooth,

but he's still an absolute dog. And, yeah, Anthony Davis maybe just gets hurt all the time and doesn't show up in fourth quarters. But guess what? Stop bitching. Figure it out. Oh, wait, you can't? Get the fuck out of here.

Okay, good ending. Good self-censorship there by Ty Schmidt. I didn't expect that. One half of the hammer. Cowboys, 10 digs. Didn't plan on talking about LeBron and the Lakers, but this is sports media. You're saying JJ's just going to be his puppet.

Isn't that all of LeBron's coaches? For sure. Besides Spoh. Sorry, besides Spoh. Well, you've seen Spoh, haven't you? You've been at a game where Spoh's throwing up some big plays. Spoh has proven himself. I literally saw Spoh.

And this is my own damn eye. Yeah, this is live in person, brother. This isn't aoh. This is my own damn eye. This is live in person, brother. This isn't a story. I'm front row right behind the heat bench during the playoffs back whenever the Pacers were playing the heat for like three, four straight years. I'm sitting right behind. They call a timeout. Now, maybe that, I think Pacers called

a timeout. So maybe the heat had nothing to say, but we got to act like we're doing a timeout. Spoh actually held the dry erase board like this, 30 seconds. And then the timeout ended. All right. And they just went back. Heat on three.

I've never been more. I was so flushed. I'm like, so how much of this is just bullshit whenever I'm watching the games? Because it seemed as if he was like, all right, got to just act like we're at least thinking here. And I think LeBron sat down on this side and they were just hanging out. And then they get in and they just go back out there. I'm like, oh, they didn't have shit to say.

Just kind of doing nothing. One time, I was a scorer. Like you said, Spoh was proving himself. He would end up winning. Yeah. Yeah, he would end up winning in the whole thing. Hey, Pacers used to go. Pacers and Heat used to battle.

Just like what the Pacers are going to do to the Knicks tonight. You cheating ass, big city, coastal elite bums over there in New York City. Hopefully Tyree shows up. Okay. Probably talking to TJ McConnell right now like, yo TJ, we need 30 points tonight because I got nothing. Whoa! Is that an impression?

Was that an impression of Tyree's hellaburton? No, I don't have the two voice thing. But maybe Reggie there will wake him up a little bit. Bruce Brown had Tyree's hellaburton's jersey in a trash can. I saw that. The gourd on this guy. Yeah, you guys get the refs to help you in game one. Then you put the guy's jersey in the trash can.

You're a real piece of trash, Bruce Brown. TJ McConnell is really my only concern. He was the best guard on the Pacers in game one. I think he will be again in game two. He's a problem coming off the bench. A ton of energy. Easy Yenzer. Yenzer last night for New York helped out as well, game winner in overtime.

12-year NFL event. An absolute stallion on football fields and in the booth. New song, All the Smoke, coming out on 21st. Ladies and gentlemen, Pac-Man Jones. Pac-Man, good conversation about the NBA and the NHL in the first hour.

And then, obviously, we squeezed in the NFL-NBA thing. You asked Shams which player does he think in the NBA would be able to go to the NFL. Which NFL player do you think is most suited to head over to the NBA right now? We're not talking old-time. We're talking current players because we have some highlights for you if you want to look at them before you make your judgment. I can wait to make my judgment. I got a couple off the top of my head. I think

T. Higgins can go. Okay, hold on. We have a T. Higgins highlight, I believe, from high school. This dude's like Duncan from the foul line. Hey! Okay, he's explosive. Now, he would end up focusing on football and become a weapon and make it to the NFL. But it feels like he potentially had

a little bit of ability, size, and athleticism. Maybe he would have made it to the NBA if he gives it a go. He was 15th ranked coming out of high school when he chose football over basketball, which, you know, it's pretty good. 15th is pretty good. Yeah, and we got sold out gyms waiting for him to go, huh? Hey! I think that's through the legs or a cradle.

Remember, not too long ago we had terrible cameras. Now we should really enjoy where we're at. How about anybody else? Who are you thinking? I would say Miles Garrett, but I'm not going to go. Give me one, Tom. Why are you going to say Miles Garrett? I actually don't mind Miles Garrett pick.

Out of the entire list that Dan Orlovsky put out, Miles Garrett at least made sense. Yes. Derek Henry made a lot of sense, too, though. Well, he's going to power. Dan Orlovsky listed off 30 football players that just came to his mind. He might have put who's the most popular 30 football players on earth. He's put it out there. Like T.J. Watt, we're not 100% sure if he's going to.

He's getting six fouls. He's playing some defense. You'll see him in the paint. But I don't know if he's necessarily our representative for this entire thing. Miles Garrett on there, we've at least seen him do his thing, and we've seen how athletic he is. I've seen him jump over an offensive lineman. It's like, Miles Garrett, if he was to focus on the NBA, could he become a basketball player? Maybe he has the size, could be able to figure it out. George Kittle, obviously, you're going to want him on the bench and in the defensive

side of the court. He's chirping, he's smacking the ground. I appreciate Orlovsky just going, yeah, here's 30 NFL guys. It's the offseason. Here's humans you need to remember. But his list made the argument worse for about four or five seconds. And everybody was like, oh, Orlovsky back with that stupid shit again. And everybody just moved along.

Didn't slow us down. Jalen Ramsey's on that list. And I, you know, obviously have incredible respect for how athletic he is but i had not seen him play basketball hey jalen moves very very very very smooth and can shoot and obviously whenever we're thinking about athleticism you talk about dbs i should have expected this out of jalen ramsay i had not seen this video i had not seen him play wet jumper defensive side he'll be able to walk down. That's literally what DBs do.

And then he can get to the rim no problem, seemingly, against a bunch of potential L.A. fitness or whatever this is. You know, that's NBA defense, though. They don't start playing defense until the playoffs in the NBA anyway. But I think a couple of rookies should have been on that list. Cooper Dejean and Keon Coleman. Oh, Keon Coleman video hit the internet last night, him playing basketball.

Not only is he hysterical, wears Macy's jackets, but he's pretty violent around the rim. There's a lot of guys that have a lot of basketball highlights, and I assume a lot of the NBA guys will just pull up their high school highlights. But what we're saying is these dudes are all in the league right now,

and if you were to drop them in there, give them a month or two, we could find a spot on the court for them. They're not going to be stars of the team, maybe. Hell, Jalen Ramsey might just decide to take it over. Miles Garrett might say, hey, I'm the alpha. Keon Coleman might do the same damn thing. Play D1, MSU. That's what we're talking about.

Real minutes, too. Not just like fake minutes. Real minutes at MSU. Got offered at Kansas to play both football and basketball. Kansas is – you go to Kansas to play basketball, you're pretty much going to the league. I mean, Hutch would go get you 20 and 10 for any team in the NBA. See, you're doing Dan Orlovsky. No.

Yeah, you're doing Dan Orlovsky. Here's big guys that got good work ethic. They can figure out basketball. Dan Orlovsky said – Tyree Gill is 5'9", and I love Tyree. He's the fastest man on the planet. But, I mean, Isaiah Thomas is 5'9". He's been trying to play in the NBA for the last five years,

and no one will give him a call. Yeah, but he played, but dropped 50. That's why. Yeah, but that's why he's out of the league, because he's too small now. Joining us live from Manatee, Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, a man who we don't think would be able to play in the NBA, although who knows. Legitimately.

But nobody in the NBA wants to see this guy's head. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawke. Hawker, that conversation certainly got lively last night on the internet. I don't know if you caught up with it. Yeah, I didn't. Going over Dan's list, I mean, what a Dan list. What'd you say? Here's some

hard-working white guys. They'll figure it out. Yeah, well, not only hard-working white guys because obviously it's not an entire list of white people. I don't even know if there's 30 white people that we could put on an NFL list at this stage of the game. But whenever you're talking about Dan Orlovsky putting lists together,

it's like, okay, probably going to be ass, going to be trash, but he's going to triple, quadruple down on it. And he's going to feel like he's in the right. Then he's going to go shopping with his wife, post a video about being pissed about just wanting to play sports. And the next thing that's coming is, wait

until you hear about the food I ate. It had flavor. Ew. That's Dan Orlovsky football, and that's why we love him. That's why we love him. Obviously, that conversation took place on the internet. Wow. Playoffs were happening. The NBA had two blowouts, 20-point wins.

The NHL, though, had two overtime games. A double overtime game and an overtime game. The NHL playoffs have been magnificent and there's been a man on the coverage for ESPN who is a 16-time all-star. Jeez. That's got to be wrong. Wasn't in a league for 16 years. No, no. He was an all-star

16 times. 25 years in the NHL. Six-time Lord of Winner. Ladies and gentlemen, he has a lot of nicknames. Mark Messier. Yay, Moose!

How are you? Hey, boys, good to be out of here. Hey, so they call you the captain, they call you Moose, they call you Mess, they call you everything. I just want to let you know, when we're reading through your damn stats, holy shit. What a life. What a life.

You have crushed it. And I'm thankful that ESPN has given you a platform to kind of break down these games. You guys have been great all year, especially in the playoffs. Let's talk about the playoffs. Hey, the Rangers. Okay, here we go. Carolina Hurricanes coming into the playoffs.

Odds on favorites in every sportsbook, including ESPN Bet, to win the Stanley Cup. Now the Rangers up 2-0. Shesterkin standing on his damn head. Mess, they got a chance to win this entire thing? Or what are your thoughts on this Rangers team and this series as a whole? They sure do have a chance to win it all. They have looked unbelievable all year. The team is playing with a lot of chemistry.

They've been together long enough to have that kind of knack of knowing where each other is off the ice. You can just see the way that they play the game, the way they interact with each other on and off the ice. There's a chemistry that happens with a team that is staged to win a Stanley Cup, and the Rangers have that right now. It's easy to see from the outside. When you're at the games, when you're watching their interviews,

when you see the things that they do and the way they play, they are poised to win a Stanley Cup. They've got all the ingredients that it takes to win a Stanley Cup. They've got the great goaltending. They've got the defense. They've got the high-powered offense up front. Their specialty teams are probably as good as there is in the league. So they are all systems going.

One of the things I really like about the Rangers rightangers right now they probably got as much toughness and balance on the team that they had in a long time maybe since 1994 so they're never going to get pushed out of the game right now yeah the rempire state building has brought in a lot of electricity and obviously he has all eyes on him but there's other there's other hands flying for that rangers team and you brought up something we talked about in the n it's like I love that yeah absolutely there's never been a yeah shout out me dude I love that there's never been a good team in the NFL uh that didn't like each other every good team I've ever been on in football or any sport they've all liked each other I think that's what you're referring to to the Rangers it's like the way they interact it's seemingly chemistry through the roof camaraderie the boys

like each other they're playing for each other as well that's big in that challenge for me i've never been involved in a team that's been successful it didn't have that attribute that the players really care about each other on and off the ice they're willing to go to war in a way with each other willing to sacrifice they're willing to do the work uh on and off the ice to prepare to win uh winning it doesn't happen uh because the playoffs start in in the spring uh winning starts it's a culture it's a way of life and it starts in september in training camp and then it goes all the way through the 82 games and the rangers and the other teams as well have been trying to do this for a lot of years now but the rangers in my opinion are a team that's been knocking on the door for a couple years they suffered a harsh setback last year they got

punched in the nose when it wasn't expected but they came back this year with more resolve and and it's showing so hard during the regular season and it's showing in the playoffs to this point anyways we're talking to six times Stanley Cup winner Mark Messier go ahead AJ six Mark what do you think it would mean for uh that city I'm sure we know New York City with the Knicks, Rangers. What's going on? You know firsthand what it's like to win a cup there. What would it mean, you think, to the city right now after all this time? Yeah, well, you see what's happening back in 1994.

You saw what happened back in 1994 with the Rangers winning and the Knicks going to the finals and the unfortunate losing. But the city was on fire because of both teams. Madison Square Garden, you know, 80 degrees yesterday. The atmosphere was electric in the building again. And, you know, when you've got both teams playing that are easy to cheer for, I use the word, the term that the teams are easy to cheer for because they've got a lot of character on the team.

The players are likable. They've done a great job in the community on and off the ice. And so I think for the fan base, this is incredibly exciting. You know, it's been almost 30, well, it will be 30 years this spring for the Rangers since we won in 1994. So I think the

time is right now for the Rangers. I think this is a great opportunity for them. They got all the components that you need in order to win. And if they can do it again, that Canyon of Heroes will look fun again. Hey, hell yeah. Hey, Moose, you know, a big part of it, you bring up they got everything going for them. There's another team in the East that's got the very important part of playoff hockey,

seemingly as a dumbass that watches. The goaltending's the real deal. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Moose, it feels like the bruins have kind of hit this different level for their team and it all starts with jeremy swayman he's been absolutely phenomenal for these last few games i think he's five and two overall in the playoffs but when you're playing on a team that has a goalie like swayman like igor last night how great is that just for the mentality of the team like going into tonight for the Bruins because

of the way Swayman's been playing does that just add a massive motivation or a massive assurance like hey we got one of the best guys in net back there we just need to get out there score a couple goals and we're going to go back to Boston with a 2-0 lead or what's the mentality there for a team when you do have a goaltender in the net like a Jeremy Swayman? Well, I was fortunate in my career through the 25 years that I played, I have that kind of goaltending, starting with Grant Feuer and Andy Moog at Edmonton. Oh, Moog! Oh, yeah. And Billy Ranford taking us to our fifth cup in Edmonton,

and, of course, Mike Richter and Glenn Richter in New York. So it's everything. The goalie is the backbone of the team. There's a reason why you follow the goalie onto the ice every game because you know that the goalie, in so many ways, can give you confidence the way he plays. It allows the team to play freely because you know you're going to get the stops that are required in order to win.

And the character of the goalie is incredible. The preparation that they have to do in order to play each and every game, it rubs off on the team. And I always have so much reverence for the goalies that I played with, that we've won with. And, of course, now you're seeing it again with Boston. You're seeing it with Shisterkin. You're seeing it with the teams at Ottinger and Dallas. Anybody that's still playing right now is obviously getting great goaltending, but for Boston, to your question,

they had to stare down the barrel of the gun in Game 7 against a stubborn Leaf team, and you look at each other in the eye and you say, can we keep moving here? Can we keep going? Are we done for another year um and they got past the Leafs and now they seem to have gotten even more confidence uh backed by an incredible goaltender by Swayman I mean he looks rock solid in there and you know they they came off a tough seven game series they got a rested Panther team and they're able to go in there and win that game and they did not look tired we'll see what the rest of the series looks like but panthers are

going to have their hands full with soyman and the team playing with as much confidence as they have been you hockey people created standing on his head that's uh that's a hockey thing because i think they use it in soccer and any other thing that involves a goal because that's it literally first thing you think this guy's staying on his head like last night 54 saves 54 that is so many saves and then a couple massively timed ones as well and then you think about the game one for the Bruins a couple nights ago 40 seconds into that game there's a sports center top 10 save it's like that is huge for the entire team for the entire confidence of the night goal tending doesn't get talked about until playoffs.

It really, it's like playoffs is when it comes late. Tommy Barrasso, Ken Regan brought so much happiness to Pittsburgh. And then Marc-Andre Fleury, he came in and like won over the entire city. It's like in the big games, it's the goalie that seemingly can become the hero quickly. And it's a beautiful thing. Now let's go back through your life a little bit. DeButt's got a question for you. Yeah, Mark, four of us up here went through, you know,

obviously high school, college, and then jumping to the pros. I read that you skipped major, junior hockey, and collegiate all together and went straight to the pros. What was that transition like, and was it a real welcome to the league? I asked Austin Matthews this, and he was like, oh, yeah, my first game, I scored five, six goals, I believe. What was your welcome to the league? I asked Austin Matthews this, and he was like, oh, yeah, my first game, I scored five, six goals, I believe. What was your welcome to the league moment as a rookie? That wasn't my trajectory.

Trust me. In fact, it was back in 1978, 79, or 72, when the WHA, a rival league formed called the World Hockey Association. a rival league formed called the world hockey association and uh and back in 78 uh 79 they started signing underage players to play in it before they got to the nhl draft as competitors that team or that league eventually folded and so i have the distinction of being the youngest player in sports to pull two different franchises i played five games for the indianapolis racers and they folded so i came home and kept playing junior hockey then i went and uh played for cincinnati uh 48 games and then

they folded that year and then that's when i went into the draft of the nhl but uh i scored one goal my first uh uh year in pro and i was actually, we got hemmed in our own zone, finally got the puck, and I dumped it down the ice and changed. And so when the goal actually went on the ice, went into the goal, I was on the bench. Nice. That was my introduction to professional hockey. And then, of course, got drafted by the Oilers, and the rest is history. But, yeah, I didn't finish grade 12.

I went to play professional hockey as a 17-year-old. And so a much different trajectory nowadays than most of the kids where they can either go play major junior hockey and get drafted as 18-year-olds and go in there, or you can go to college route and obviously play four years in college. I don't know how many 17-year-olds in the 70s were like, yeah, I'm ready to go play professional hockey or not. But that would obviously lead to a 25-year career, 16-time all-star. And then whenever you're playing with the Oilers, you're behind Waino, right? You're

second center behind Waino. And you win four cups there. And then you win. We won four with Wayne. And then Wayne got traded. And we won the fifth cup in 1990, a couple of years after he was traded. So it was an incredible experience in Edmonton, in my hometown. I got drafted right to Edmonton, which is where I grew up. I knew every person in that crowd for the 12 years

that I played there. It was amazing. Thank you for what you did for hockey. Unreal. Happy you said as a high schooler I don't know what 17 years old Grade 11 I believe

I left In November Of my grade 12 year Grade 12 year Do you say oven or oven Moose Thank you He's got a brain

Okay alright What was the Oven or oven, Moose? Oven. Oven. Thank you. Jeez. He's got a brain. Oven or oven. Okay. All right. What was the... Against. Against. Against, yeah. A team's playing against another team,

or are they playing against another team? I say against. I love it. I mean, it's not that Canadian. PK. PK comes on here, and he's just... I mean, the amount of accent that... He said oven for oven. He said oven for oven.

He said oven for oven at one point, PK. And I know you guys have a great relationship, obviously, because of TV. We've got a great relationship. He's fun to work with there. Every once in a while there, I've got to sit him down and really kind of teach him the ropes here and there. But he's an interesting guy. He loves what he's doing.

He's really trying to make a career of it and i and i'll tell you um for the career that he had um he really loves the game and i think that she really and he was a tremendous competitor i mean you think about the montreal canadians and having to go up against milan for all those years in boston all the top players and um he was a heck of a competitor, and it showed on the ice. And he's taken that same kind of competitiveness into his new career with ESPN, and he's been great to work with. Yeah, we've enjoyed it. I mean, he had six different teams merch on today.

He was cheering for the Knicks and the Celtics. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. The flavor of the week. Yeah, night maybe. Not even a week. Yeah, the flavor of the week. Yeah, night maybe, not even a week. It's the flavor of the hour. Pac-Man has a question for you, Moose. Moose, the other night it was a really tough call in overtime.

Do the refs normally control the game, which ended up costing Carolina to lose the game? Did you agree with the call or did you not agree with the call? And officiating in hockey as a whole, I think, as well. That's a great question. You know, I always have a hard time, you know, getting down on the referees. They got an amazingly tough job. We've seen in the past there at times like that where referees can actually swallow the whistle

and not call anything, which actually in a different way affects the outcome of the game when penalties should have been called. I think there has to be a little bit of an allowance for certain penalties at certain times of game that weren't directly related to a scoring chance. And that infraction happened out by the blue line there was no danger from one team or another um scoring i thought that uh it was more of a push than a cross check i thought it was a battle for the puck and the outcome was uh probably

one that if we had to have back over again, we might have called it differently. Certainly the explanation from the NHL and the rule books states that you could deem that a penalty. I think that's a discretionary call, in my opinion. And I didn't like to see the game ended in that fashion. Obviously, I'm a little biased to the Rangers, so I'm happy they won the game. But I think if I put my hat on for the Carolina fans and their organization, the coaches and the players, you know, to end the game on that seemed to be a little bit off. And unfortunately, but I will say on this flip side of that, you guys, is that you are going to get over a seven game series. You're going to get some good calls that go your way. You're going to get over a seven-game series, you're going to get some good calls that go your way.

You're going to get some bad calls that go your way. But over the seven-game series, the better team will eventually win and they'll overcome any bad calls that come their way there. Carolina has it worked out for them. They're not playing very disciplined right now, taking too many penalties. And their penalty killing is being way too aggressive. They've got to really settle the penalty killing down. The Rangers' power play is clicking at an all-time high right now. It's incredibly efficient,

and they got some players that will pick you apart if you give them the opportunity. And so far, the Rangers have done that, and it's been the difference in this series. Yeah, power play is a big weapon, especially in the overtime at that particular period, especially when people are playing well. The ref thing that you mentioned there about it going your way and going the other way we've actually heard mic'd up refs in hockey i actually appreciate the way nhl and hockey is officiated like we you guys view them as humans and having human emotion and how like yeah we are going to call one early on this particular team maybe if they're acting a little bit ridiculous because it's like flow of the game and like the it's kind of understood right in hockey that that's how the refs are

and has it been like that forever is that just kind of how it's always been with the refs and every referee is different there are different people and they're going to see the game differently and you've got to adjust you got to be able to adjust to every referee that plays and i always like the referee or one or two referees that continued on throughout the series there because you could kind of get a feel of how they were going to call the game and you could also they understood that the game within the game that was happening like a guy like Grimpy and getting into someone's kitchen or getting into the crease or Seveshikov hitting and taking out Sturken last night so they get to know the nuances that are happening in the series and they can adjust to it themselves um and i agree with you i i think that the the referees um do such an amazing job

because they they really know the game and more importantly they know the game within the game which you guys all know about being in sports or there's a lot of things that are happening away from the puck there's a finite amount of ice, a room on the ice, and every player has got to go to a certain area on the ice in order to score a goal, and it's my job to not let you get into that area on the ice. And so it becomes a test of wills, and who wants to get to that space more, and who's willing to stay there and take the punishment to stay there? So there's a lot going on all inside the context of a hockey game not just

what you actually see the players going up and down the ice there's internal battles going on and that's what makes playoff hockey in my opinion so incredibly special is that because it's not for the faint of heart you've got to be willing to pay the price to get in those hard areas you've got to be willing to pay embrace the pain as if we've been hearing so much about this uh this playoff season so it's fascinating the matchups the uh you know carolina going home now making the adjustments uh this is strategic warfare this is physical warfare this is this is uh like i say not for the faint of heart it's the teams that are willing to kind of be able to change and and pay the price in order to win we'll eventually get there.

Hell yeah, Moose. The speed, the skill, the intricacies, the strategy, the Barnes. I mean, NHL playoffs are magical. Growing up in Pittsburgh, I was lucky, especially during the era in which I grew up. It's like, okay, I got to experience playoff hockey, not only from in the building, but like the city itself. It's like, here we go.

And the NHL, hey, ratings through the roof right now, Moose. Last night, two overtime games. The NBA had two 20-point blowouts. Let's go. Let's go, Moose. The NHL right now and the amount of talent in the league and the parity in the league, every night you never know who's going to win, which makes it so compelling.

The 16 teams that make the playoffs now, you've got to have a tremendous 80-game regular season just to make the playoffs. It's not like you can just throw your hat in the ring. Sounds like you just took a shot at Pittsburgh, Moose. I get it. Okay. I get it. Yeah.

Okay. It's all fun and games. The era's over, Moose. We get it. We're dead. We're dead. We're dead. Hey, look, they've had a pretty darn good run. I don't think there's a league that –

there's not a team in the league that wouldn't take their success in Pittsburgh. Amen. Hey, from your mouth to the Lord's ears, amen. We appreciate the hell out of you. Hopefully we'll get a chance to chat with you again as the playoffs roll on. I look forward to coming back on. Thanks for having me, you guys. You're the man.

What's the TCU connection? My daughter. Just got admitted to TCU, so I wanted to wear her hat in support of my daughter. She's very excited. Hey, congratulations. Yeah. The new, it's the, what is it? Two of them, right?

Horned Frogs. Yeah, I think you do this one. I think this is the play. I think you're going to see a lot of this. Two-seam fastballs? Uh-uh. Horned Frogs. Yeah, I think you do this one. I think this is the play. I think you're going to see a lot of this. Two-seam fastballs? Uh-uh. Horned Frogs. That's what we're talking about right here.

We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. Stick it out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 16-time All-Star, Mark Messier. Yeah, dude. Legend. Holy shit. 17.

25 years in the NHL. Asinine. Six cups. I mean, that's... Yeah. Four. Five years in the NHL. Asinine. Six cups. I mean, that's. Yeah. So, four as second center with Waino there. And then Waino leaves, trades to L.A.

Then he goes, bang, and wins one there. Then he goes to New York, bang, wins one there. It's like, hey, this dude's a real deal. Guy's a winner. They call him the captain. That's just what people call him. Like, he's the captain. It's like, oh, you've got to carry yourself with some incredible class for everybody just to be like, this is the captain. That's just what people call him. He's the captain. It's like, oh, you've got to carry yourself with some incredible class for everybody just to be like,

this is the captain. And then you hear him talk on ESPN. He still loves the sport. Looks great. He's looked like that for the last 30 years I feel like that they've done the age. And you've got Waino on TNT. So we've got the great one on TNT. Then you've got Moose espn it's like hockey's

being represented by hawk like yes and biz is beloved yep and then and then pk yeah i mean it's like you're right great time for hockey you're right here we go here we go and spitting chiclets obviously yeah massive at the same damn time because whitney you know he's photoshop enthusiast yes what happened he knows how to work in AI. Yeah. Well, almost too good. Yes, I would agree. Because they say hockey players rock for brains.

Yeah. Whitney figured out the AI quickly. Very quickly. The prompts, yeah, what to say. Yes, clearly he did. Yeah, but they, you know, the whole entire hockey world right now is up. So congrats, hockey. Hell yeah.

Great sport, hockey. Hell yeah, hockey. Great sport, hockey. Great sport. We talk about it with the Jets and Rodgers. Winning in New York, you're like a king in New York forever. I feel like Moose is the perfect example of that. Bruce could probably speak more to it, but that was the last time he mentioned it.

30 years and they haven't won shit since Moose was wearing that C. Yeah, it's just kind of been a waste of energy. All you Rangers fans, just a waste of khakis on a good night in Madison Square Garden. It is big time, wasting some nice pleated khakis for those Rangers nights at the Garden. But yeah, no, it's been a crazy drought for both the Knicks and the Rangers. This is the best I've ever seen them, even through those Lundquist years and Carmelo Anthony years. Neither team has been this electric. Jalen Brunson's going.

Dude, go away. Awesome. Just going. His over-under tonight is 37.5. People thought that Halliburton was better than him. Can you believe that? Sit down. Oh, Bruce.

Disrespect. I threw a Halliburton. Bruce is confident. You would think not being good for so long might humble some people, but not New Yorkers. No way. Not a chance. No way.

Not us. Nope. They say. Not us. Nope. They say. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's incredibly humble. So humble that he's still working out as if he's an actual NFL player. Because he only knows one thing, and that's working his ass off. Is he going to be an actual NFL football player again? There's some smoke coming from that particular story from numerous people now.

I do know he owns a soccer team that is not getting relegated in the Premier League, I've heard. Ladies and gentlemen, guy who buried Austin Rivers on the internet yesterday, J.J. Wong! Okay,

we got Miller Lite. Can we put the Dix thing up, please? Can we put the... What up, please? Can we put the Dix thing up there? All right. And JJ, can we put JJ on screen as well? Put it in the ball time trailer. Just get AJ's teeth in there. That's what Dix wants. Oh, oh, oh.

That's right. Really nice smile. There it is. We got Dix House of Sport. We got Miller Lite down here. We got Bernie up here. We got some dude lights right there. No, but I'm just saying this is, I mean, we are in the middle of DJJ business right now.

Can we maybe, do we have Boomer and what's his face, jerseys and a wrap? Can we tip the... Jerseys do belong in the rafters. Legends. Absolute legends. Absolutely. All right, we're good, we're good. JJ, thank you for joining us,

especially after you murdered a man on the internet last night. The NBA-NFL conversation, obviously, was very loud. Your tweet was being echoed by basically every network in sports to kind of prove, you know, this is how dumb this conversation even is.

The guy that said this, as J.J. Watt said, you don't have a job in the interleague, you bum. Why don't you go try this entire thing out? Now, J.J., to his credit, I would like to say this, that particular one got four and a half million views. His apology, you know, I'm going to be 100% honest, I did something I hate when people do to me. I commented on a headline without watching the video.

I thought you were saying you could play in the NFL, so I came in hot, want you to prove it. I'll earn that and apologize. That's on me. That's awesome. Wow. 6,000 people saw that. 6,000 people saw that particular apology. So, you know, it's the way it goes.

And I appreciate that little string of events there. But that conversation got very heated last night by NFL guys, I think, because, like, toughness mentality wasn't really being talked about in the talent situation. Is that right, JJ? I mean, like, the funny thing about my tweet, which obviously I have since apologized for after seeing the complete video. But the funny thing about it was I never said he was wrong.

Like, there's a pure logistics conversation here where NBA players are tall as shit. Like, the biggest NFL guys are 6'6", which is like a shooting forward or something in the NBA. So you have to have incredible skill to be able to play at that height. Like, I'm not saying. What an asshole. I don't know. I mean. He's a hockey guy.

Get up and let's go. So, like, but anybody who says they could play corner, anybody who says an NBA player could play corner is wrong. Cornerback is possibly. Cornerback is, besides quarterback, that has to manage everything. Cornerback is the hardest position to play in the NFL. That is such a difficult – Way to go, boys. I don't think anybody's giving them any credit.

Way to go, D-Bot. Way to go, you guys. Mitt McMahon. Tom McMahon. But, I mean, in terms of basketball, like I said, could I go out there and give you six fouls and maybe luck into a rebound? Sure. But, like, am I going up over and maybe luck into a rebound? Sure.

But, like, am I going up over Wemby for a board? No. I'm 6'6". He's 7'15". So I'm not catching a board. Could I blow up a shot at some point? Sure. Could I try and play hard effort, good defense? Sure.

But, like, I don't have the skill set. And I'm sure there are some phenomenal basketball players that are currently playing in the NFL. But, I mean, if't have the skill set. And I'm sure there are some phenomenal basketball players that are currently playing in the NFL. But, I mean, if you're actually subjectively looking at it, his original point might not be wrong. 30's a lot. 30's a lot. You know, and it's like, what do they have to accomplish in the NFL?

Like, we talked earlier. Andy Reid could draw up a play for a 6'10 guy to score a touchdown. Andy Reid could figure that out. Especially with Travis on the field and Xavier Worthy and if Rishi Rice makes it to training camp and he's in jail in Dallas, which we're all hoping, he gets the hell out of that city. Let's go.

You've got a great career ahead of you. We can do all this dumb shit later if you want to and then when you get later you won't do it. But if you were to have all those guys on the field and then you just got a seven-footer on the other side, Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes can figure out how to get you a touchdown. Now, that's a situation. Are you doing training camp?

Are you doing practice? Do you have to play in other plays to get to that particular – you know, there's so many little – and then on the other side of it, we got some six-foot-one corners that I assume on defensive side could of it, we got some 6'1 corners that I assume, on defense aside, could lock down, could lock down, could spot open. They're not going to be in the mix, but there's been a lot of people in basketball, maybe guys are, but there's been a lot of guys in basketball, especially in the NBA,

where, hey, you are on that side. You're just standing over there. You might get a shot. Maybe we knock it down. So it's an incredible conversation to have. 30 like a lot of nba guys that could come over to the nfl though especially because there isn't that many nba guys you know and you got to think about professional athletes like how much time and effort and energy and dedication you're you're giving to that sport so throughout all of college throughout the entire professional career you are

working on nothing but that for football players we've been working on nothing but football throughout all of college, throughout the entire NFL. Same with basketball players. I don't think this argument is properly giving enough credit to either sport and how insanely difficult it is. I always go back to, I was 100% confident I could be a keeper in professional soccer given enough time. And my wife, literally, I told her and she goes, you're an idiot. She keeper in professional soccer given enough time. And my wife,

literally, I told her and she goes, you're an idiot. She's a professional soccer player herself. And she said, you're an idiot. So we set up a field out in the backyard. We grabbed a ball. We put our cleats on. We went back out there and I am an idiot. Like you just, you, these sports are so much more difficult at the highest level than anybody gives them credit for. And everybody sits on their couch, even us professional athletes about other professional sports, sit on our couch and say stupid shit. Like, I told you guys yesterday, one of my favorite things, and this is part of the reason. I'll tell you the full story why I sent that to you. Okay, please.

I was in the gym. Yeah, you were getting out there. He had six points. I FaceTimed this asshole. He just got done with his set. And we're not talking about just like, hey, we're doing squats. Just keep the mobility. I think he had five plates on each side.

That's what that was, right? Yeah. I was trying to. It was in the background. I'm like, one, two, three. This guy's got five plates on each. It was bananas what you were squatting. What?

So I just finished my workout. I open my phone. I'm scrolling around. My buddies, I have a group text with my buddies, and I see this text, and they're like, look at this guy. He thinks he can play in the NFL. So I just finished squatting. Obviously, pure meathead mentality.

You're hyped up. You got the adrenaline flowing. And I'm like, this guy can't play in the NFL. Who does he think he is? Does he get to play in the NFL? Are you going to block me? So I fire up the tweet. I'm like, this is a good response.

The buyer's like, yeah, yeah, you knew what was coming when he said it. And I'm like, all right. So we fired out. We just fired out. What I had in my head was my college strength coach. So Ben Herbert, now with the Chargers, one of the best strength coaches in the world. In college, I told him one day during the offseason, I said, I bet with proper six months of training,

I could start on the offensive line. And he goes, prove it. And I said, well, I mean, how do you want me to prove it? He goes, well, then stop saying stupid shit. He's like, I can't stand when people say stupid shit. Don't back it up. So that's, in my head, what I was thinking when i saw this tweet because i didn't watch the video for full context i assumed austin rivers said that he could play in the nfl um i just finished squatting saw the text sent it out and then i apologized to a

lot less people yeah well you know i appreciate you owning it and that's why you are jj one that's right that's appreciate you owning it. And that's why you are JJ Watt. That's right, man. That's why you're JJ Watt. That's why you're future President of the United States of America. Let's hope. JJ Watt. I've been drumming that up

the last couple of days. I hope you know that. I got a lot of years to go until apparently, I got like 60 more years to go until apparently I can fit that. All right. JJ, we all are confused

about how this is what it is we all are very confused we gotta get back to the minimum age let's go to like 36 I just turned 37 I don't know yeah I think 40, 50

just such an ageist thing for me to say yeah I mean the world has changed so much how the hell do they even, you know? We also don't need J.J. squatting and then getting his hands on nuclear codes being all fired up. Yeah, we need to keep the gym away from the nuclear. What do you guys think?

Should I? Good response. I know what's coming. Did you see what Putin said? Did you see what Putin said? What'd he say? What'd he say? Just basically ask it for it, man.

End it. You're right. Maybe too big of a meathead, but I agree with what you're saying. Let's get a little younger, maybe. Yeah, and not even all the way. We can go to Pete Butt. Right in the middle. Who?

Pete Butt, Mayor Pete. Is he running? I don't know if he's running. I don't know what your problem is. You're taking this conversation into a completely different realm. Of course. No, no. I thought he was running.

Of course. Anyways, the reason why I brought that up is because the way that you answered the question about playing football again, like you covered all your bases every single answer you gave. And it was like, holy shit, that guy is a politician whenever he's speaking. Because they asked about maybe you having to play, and if four guys get injured, you know, would you, is that what you mean by Nijan? You were like, well, obviously I hope nobody gets injured.

It's like in the moment, not even like hesitating there, saying obviously I don't want four guys to get hurt ever. But if that was the case, yes, that is what I'm thinking. As soon as I heard that answer, I'm like, this guy. Honor. They couldn't even catch him. They couldn't even catch him. I'm like, oh, you want four guys to be hurt so you can play, huh?

Oh, Ring of Honor, J.J. Watt. What an ass. Didn't even do it. Just covered it quickly. But that answer got a lot of smoke coming out. A lot of conversation. Are you back? Is that what's taking place or what?

It's a situation similar to the one we were just talking about where you've got to watch the full video for the context i i was asked about it uh i told them conversation domico and i have had before um and i very clearly in that stated that they have no need or use for me whatsoever right now they have a phenomenal defense built they have a phenomenal team built they're perfectly fine it literally was last year and this year if it came down to an absolute dire situation where they needed somebody to help out i would that then i would do that but that would be the i don't i don't think people fully understood like the how much stuff would have to happen for that scenario to play itself out and

it's it's so highly unlikely. What has happened? What do you mean? How much? I mean, I'm very comfortable and happy. Yeah, that's not the point. That's not the question. Yeah, if you're happy or not.

And say, what if, you know, like, why not? You know? I know. We already thought of this. Coming out of that NRG Stadium tunnel. Oh, buddy. You got the Houston Texans. Yeah, brand new uniforms with those cool H's on there.

Houston Texans flag on one hand. In one hand. United States or America flag in the other. Burnley flag off the helmet. Running out with three flags. We got the Aaron Rodgers clip of him just with one flag. You got three flags. With the Bulls in the back going crazy. What about, we don't want the COA?

COA doesn't deserve to see that. He doesn't want his dad to do that? COA doesn't deserve to see that? That's what we're thinking about. No, I mean, the thought of it is obviously incredible. And trust me, like any athlete that's retired has always thought about like what would it be like man that feeling is the best feeling in the world but i think the thing and

the reason i mean i had 12 and a half sacks my last year like i there's trust me there's plenty of times where i'm like you absolutely could have kept doing it but the reason that i'm okay with everything and the reason i'm so content with everything is because no matter who you are, no matter how successful you are, no matter how great of an athlete you are, that day is coming no matter what. So I'm at peace, and I'm comfortable looking back and knowing that my last year, I had my son, I had 12 1⁄2 sacks, I had a great time, I accomplished a great career, and now the time has come to move on. So the only thing that you would ever come back for now is if the exact right situation happened

where you had a chance to do something that you have never done before. And that's the only scenario that would ever bring you out because you also have to look at the opposite side of that and all the bad shit that can happen and all the things that everything is due to that things that everything only positive no what are you talking about that's not jj why that's not my president what's that negativity either that's not my president yeah no it's being retired that's the that's the beauty of being retired like i don't you don't have to think like a freaking eternal optimist anymore. Like, yeah, I'm going to go out. What if you suck? You know?

Not going to suck, dude. You're JJ freaking out, brother. No, I mean, I wouldn't. I can tell you that right now. Well, prove it. Prove it, bitch. Just like you said. Prove it.

I'm going to prove it in North Carolina here in a couple weeks. Actually, see, I try to give myself a talk crap about this soccer tournament. I'm not even. I'm still not confident in my own skills. Hey, did we not? We gave it our best whenever we did that TST schedule reveal show. We were trying our best to talk shit to each other. Now.

Ocho Cinco is going to make us both look like idiots, I feel like. How much are you guys playing? I doubt that. Are you guys going to play a lot? I checked that website. That looks like legit soccer. There's no joke. Are you guys going to be playing a lot?

Okay. I checked that website. That looks like legit soccer. There's no joke. Are you guys going to be playing a lot? Okay, just some information here that I've been going to bed thinking about. Sure. Because my cardio potentially could be called into question in a lot of different situations. It's live subbing, live subbing. So we're talking you could take like a minute. Jump over the boards? Yes, hockey.

Yes, live subbing. Wow, I didn't even know that. Huge, huge. That is huge. That changed my entire mindset on this TST happening June 5th through the 8th, I believe, in Cary, North Carolina. ESPN will be broadcasting it. I have a team, Concava SC, about to make its world debut down there,

filled with, hey, we got guys. We got guys. And as of this morning, we have an assistant slash also head coach, Coach Gumpy. Way to go, Coach. Thank you, everybody. Thank you, everybody. He was given his clipboard this morning and awarded the coaching title

for the team. He looks in shockingly better shape than I. I'm going to be perfectly honest with you. I've only seen him neck up on this show ever. In that video. Go flex on him, Gump. No, JJ, start with like you did. Say, I love Gump, but let's keep up the gimmick here.

Yeah, that's what you have said every single time you've ever said something. I love Gump in like brackets. I love Gump. I mean, I mean, I mean. Who I love Gump in brackets. I love Gump. Who I love is what you said. I love Gump, but if he's your coach, you're in trouble. You sent me a video yesterday.

Shot a ball into the corner of an empty net from the penalty spot. Did you not see the goalie? Did you not see the guarded net? There was a whole net inside the net that was playing goalie. Okay. How many edits? How many cuts did that take? Well, the issue was.

How many balls flew straight over the top of that net? Ten of those. No gimmicks, no smoking mirrors over here to see if it's your co-owner. Yeah, bingo. All right, Lando. Bingo. Hey, at least I know you're locked in. There we go.

Yeah, Lando Norris is a big-time stallion, first person to ever win a G1 race, other than Max Vanderstolt. That's right. That happened down there at Miami Grand Prix. But it is – TSD is going to be awesome. He has a team. I have a team.

Ocho is playing for Cincinnati's team. I think Chris Paul maybe either owns the league or the team. And this – Donnie. I mean, you're owns the league or the team. And this... Donnie. I mean, you're seven feet away from the net. 12 yards, asshole. And you're a professional kicker. You're a professional.

You do this for a living. Penalty shot, brother. I've been retired for like eight years, bro. Six years, seven years. I've been retired a long time. That won't go away. Harry Kane, Pat McAfee, put him on the spot. Look great. If I put it on frame, JJ,

I do feel like I'm going to have success. What you said about how many did you put over? Oh, yeah. I mean, we are still battling through full scent. It was windy yesterday, too. From the ground, too.

I've been... That was a tornado day. Our From the ground, too. I've been – Tornadoes. It was a tornado day. Our coach, like we obviously have a Burnley coach who's coaching our squad. He texted me the other day, and he was like, all right, so I'm setting up our minutes and our plan here. What position do you want to play, and how much are you anticipating playing? I said, buddy, I don't know.

Like as minimal as humanly possible, we have professional soccer players on our team. Put them on the field. My number one goal in this entire tournament is to come out healthy. I don't want ligaments or hamstrings. I haven't played this sport ever. And now I'm going to go out there and I'm going to – I'm used to running six seconds at a crack. That's what I got for you. Six seconds at a pop. Now you're going to ask me to run 20 minutes straight and to jump up in the air and try and head a ball.

I don't know what's going to happen. You were talking about who you think scores more goals. It's getting a little more real. We're training. My wife and I are training. We're putting it together. And I'm starting to see the difference in sports. Just the different muscles you use, the different stuff you're looking for,

and the endurance aspect. Man, when you're doing it tired, it's hard. Yep. We'll see you tomorrow. That's JJ Watt. Goodbye. Way to go, JJ. Nice Goodbye. Way to go, JJ. Way to go, JJ.

That was a good send to the commercial. That's why they got Boomer the hell out of there. He said, we don't need you anymore. JJ can send his thing to a hard out if we need it. That's a phenomenal thing. It is getting very real. Don't talk to me about that. You push. What's your... Well, that's why we're saying it. Because whatever... Yeah, that. You push. What's your, like...

Well, that's why we're saying it, because whatever... Yeah, that was the same thing. Oh, I see. That's why I'm making sure that this, if we're going to do this, let's make sure we're doing this. Carry the torch. Let's make sure this is how this is going to be forever, you know, because I feel like companies do potentially change things.

So let's make sure we're making sure we're giving proper blame, like we got. These shins took some big legendary shots for a month or two. Diesel once. With bats. And I think they spent like 1.2 billion a year on college football playoffs or something.

Where the fuck did that come from? I didn't know. I just saw your ratings today. I saw your ratings today. I saw your ratings today. Very, very well. Double-digit ratings for like the 15th month in a row. Increased. Double-digit ratings increased.

Touche. Phenomenal job, everybody on board. Thank you. Hey, team. Way to go, team. Thanks, JJ. Thank you for acknowledging me, JJ. Really enjoy being a part of it.

I forgot how much I've enjoyed this. This is great. It's been a little too long since I've been on this show. Yeah, you've been doing all your business and pilot stuff. President. Yeah, president. Brother. No. No. He's been a little too long since I've been on stuff. Yeah, you've been doing all your business and pilot stuff. President. Yeah, President. He's a Boston Bruins fan. Sketch is a Boston Bruins

fan, which we're big fans of. You can't say what's up, brother. Why not? No, you certainly can. We were acknowledging the Travel Chief. Yeah, we were acknowledging the Travel Chief. You went with Sketch. Nonetheless, yeah, we appreciate you acknowledging Roman Reigns and the program's success, which I don't even know if it's real. He played football.

When everybody else puts out their numbers, we just go, oh, that sounds right. Yeah, sure. Up and to the right, of course, of course. One in every three citizens of the United States of America watch your show, of course. That certainly happens. You can believe it. And then when they put ours out, it's like, oh, that's really cool. It feels good.

And then I'm immediately like, I hate these things. Yeah. I have made fun of these things for years now now all of a sudden it's directly about us we're very appreciative of the people uh obviously that pieced this together did all the numbers and uh you know i this is going to sound absurd and insane i do not look at basically any of the numbers except for on X. I'll see the stuff on X because it's right there. I have no idea how many people are watching on a daily basis.

And then like once a month, I'll look and I'll be like, alright. Still got a show. We will move on. And then whenever it gets like negotiation time, then it's like, alright, I got to do a full Alright, here we go. I got to enter all our shit, all everybody else's shit and we keep it moving because i don't think the number of people that are watching should uh be indicative of what type of show you do like um i don't i

don't think that should be you know you're determined oh when we talk about this it does well it's like okay that's a nice little added benefit but like uh also like let's just do a show you know and uh we might miss sometimes, and I apologize for that. But every once in a while, what you're going to notice is we're just talking about shit that we like happening in the sports world. And I think that means more than necessarily anything else. Because if you're doing forced conversations about shit you don't like, it's like this fucking show is over. This business is over. If we have a force to talk about shit we don't like, it's not going to last long.

So I appreciate you bringing it up and I'm very lucky with the team that we have, but it's weird. It's a weird dynamic. I mean, we talked about ratings. If you chase ratings every day, it's not... People do though, bro. You're chasing ratings. I know. But that's when you start doing the crazy

bullshit that you start making stuff up because it's not sustainable. Well, people said that we were. I was going to say, people say we do a lot of crazy bullshit and just make stuff up too. Well, so we're having a good time though. That's just because it's fun though. That's because we enjoy that. Yeah, we're not doing it for ratings.

Like there's a lot of, for instance, like. Oh, the turtle though, the racist turtle. Racist ass turtle. Did you hear about this, JJ, when you when you become no i i saw something with turtle you don't want to know so you don't when you kill any turtle you have unless it's sea turtle and if you have a sea turtle as a pet i think it's illegal but if you have any other turtle i am pretty sure that you have a racist pet, and we don't make the rules. And I just learned this yesterday.

What is it? Smart people. Oh, shit. Good, good. It looks a little black there. Wait a second. Hold on. Oh, no, there's white.

Okay, I'll take it. It's good. What's that there? That's a white. Oh, this motherfucker. JJ, there's more, JJ. Wait, wait, wait. Turn it around away. away no problem no 100 I'm heading back this look at this oh oh oh look at this now what no no problems oh I'm sorry that's not me oh

oh how about this one look at this this guy just walked into a full room of I hate this I hate it I hate it I hate it what about this one hate it what the hell yeah get me out of here i need to get to the right side of this thing oh no this motherfucker's still here tell your friends bitch who who was the one who figured this out like who was sitting in their backyard and was like look at this that guy just no no No, no. He's hypnotized by how much he's good. Oh, okay. Get him all. Yeah.

No problems. Oh, just a little cut. Found a little tiny quarter. That's a brand new video. It covers it up. Off you go. Okay. No problems.

Don't you do that again. We got to get our guy a guardian cap. He's going to concuss himself. He's your guy. He's not my guy. He's your guy? Are you going to wear it in the game? You let that.

Okay, J.J. Okay. All right. Jeez Louise. CBS. Oh, my God. Yeah, you're right. You're right.

I can see that over a lot. Anyways, thank you to everybody who watches. We do appreciate it. I mean, the A Block was us learning that Turtles and Racers yesterday, the first hour and the second hour. Had to do it. Now, we don't have blocks because we don't have commercial breaks, which is a whole other animal. We have a sponsor for an hour. Speaking of.

That is a wild concept. That is crazy. Every time I'm on here, I always forget that. We have a sponsor for an hour. Speaking of. That is a wild concept. That is crazy. Every time I'm on here, I always forget that. So it's just the little boxes that you put around that cover it for the whole hour? Yeah, and then also, you know, Dick's House Sport Showcase. It's the best from top brands in apparel, footwear, and equipment. J.J. Watt is already making himself at home.

He's live at Dick's House Sport right now. Good for you, J.J. I'm not, but I actually did go there the day of my charity softball game because I needed a couple different bats. So I walked right into Dick's, got everything I needed. Cole loved me. He literally wants to move into Dick's House of Sport and went right back out and played a little softball game. Literally?

Wow, that's weird. You literally did. JJ was already making his own. No, if you watch the commercial, Kay wouldn't let us do it. What's her deal? She said, no, she said we can visit, but we can't live there. I mean, do you have a wife? Yeah.

Well, I wasn't sure who you were talking about. I'll tell you the truth, JJ. My bad. A.J., do you smile way more now with your teeth? Yeah. Have you noticed that? I don't know. I don't know.

That's a good question. Well, I've noticed it. You do. Oh, you just noticed my teeth probably. Yeah. But, yeah. No, you smile a lot more. You seem a lot more jovial.

I thought of you when I was getting it done. Yeah. I thought of you when I was getting it done. I had to. How was it? It was time. I was great. Dude, here. Dr. Patel. it done I had to How was it It was time I was great Dude here Dr. Patel

He's the best Does it all in house Boom Don't just anything away Hold on Hold on Hold on His face was

Like Oh cause it did The whole top The top in one Yeah in one shot So he had to numb up A bunch My face was swollen

For like A day or two Up top Yeah what are we talking Like was yours painful? I had so much stuff you had to do before you could put in. Rip a tooth out, put an implant in, you know, do some more root canals, all that stuff. So AJ doesn't feel pain.

Yeah, it hurts. No, I felt it. I felt it. They don't knock you out or give you any gas. That's for sure. You got to be able to get in there and work. I was also hopeful that they did that. They don't. I really wanted them to do that. Are you shitting me?

What do you mean? There's... on your shit. They just... They numb it with lidocaine or whatever, novocaine, and then that's it. They can't even put the gas on you. That shot feels great. Oh, yeah. The shot goes up through your face. It goes up and the nerves go up through your eyes and stuff when they hit the nerve.

I got hit with a man. I got to be honest with you. I've had 70-year-old grandmothers do this, and they've handled it a little bit better than you are. I'm sorry, man. Those women are impressive. It hurts like a mother. Boys, the grills look good.

Yeah. Well worth it. Well worth it. They do. Those looking rigs, boys, You got there, you know, strapped in to the – right into the bone there? What's that? I don't understand how it works. I don't understand it.

Like right now, you go back on – let's say somebody gets hurt on Friday. Friday, they lose all defensive linemen. Houston Texans. Heaven forbid. Sick. They get sick. Heaven forbid. He doesn't want that to happen. But, you know, you're right. Heaven forbid. Not. They get sick. Heaven forbid. He doesn't want that to happen.

But, you know, you're right. Heaven forbid. Not injured yet. Just a stomach bug. We don't want to get a stomach bug. Yeah, they go, tummy's upset. Some bad food. Tummy problem.

Playing tummy sticks. Sure. Boys got tummy problems. Just any and all. Hey, hey, hey. They're in the D-line room at Houston Texans. So that happens. So then, all of a sudden,

the whole room is out. Okay, that's a Friday. We don't have time to have workouts. Yeah, workouts. We don't have time at playoffs. We don't have time

for workouts. Biggest game of the year is coming up on Sunday. That would be a time where you would potentially go and join the Houston Texans. Now, would your teeth survive?

Oh, yeah. I don't your teeth survive? Oh, yeah. I don't know how these work. But, yeah, because I thought, like, you couldn't eat certain stuff. You couldn't do – no, it's 100% everything. I don't know how it works. That would be how you would play, though, right there, what I just laid out? Yeah. I don't know.

I mean, I said how it would have to be. It would have to be a crazy situation, looking like it's heading towards a very good situation. Playoffs? It ain't happening. You got E. coli? That'd be sick. Run like a 1-6 defense.

JJ on the fucking front line. You picked the wrong guy! He's snipping the... Maybe we're that good. He'll lead you for 10 plays. The whole warm-up is 20% luck, 15% skill. That's the other part of it. You don't want it to be that. That's the thing

that you don't want it to be. That's the majority of the reason that I assume it's not going to happen. Their team is built very well. They've got a great crew. D'Amico's doing a great thing. Everything's great down there. You don't want to come in and disrupt any of that.

You wouldn't be disrupting if you're coming out of this thing. Look at you. Two flags. Flag on your helmet. Big Ben a little bit. Do I run like that? You're being a little bit of a negative bitch earlier about what if I suck? I don't know how you run. I don't know what the knee drive

arm swing's like right now, but this tunnel's calling your name yeah this fucking bull right here i think you're coming out yeah standing on the top of that forward if you feel good for sure you'll you'll laugh at this let me find it here just from the group text of the boys who went down to the beach if one one of us make it, we all make it. I was checking out the form. I was making sure we got the proper drive. See, what the fuck are you doing that for? That's what I'm saying. You're a retired human being.

This is for TST? You said you won't play TST? Yeah. You're not going to do that on TST. I got to make sure that when you're at a dead stop and you fire that muscle at the top rate, that sucker's got to be ready to go. I'm not trying to come out

here and take an Achilles out. I got a month. That's a good idea. It's going to go. Don't worry. I need to. I'm not worried. It's going to happen. It'll happen, man. You're all right. Not just the Achilles. Obviously, Achilles is probably going to go down there and carry North Carolina.

I did pull a hammer, remember, just a few weeks back. The schedule, we have two games in one day. We're playing third. That's the third game. If I make it to the Burnley game, that's like a real feat. Is it a short field, you said?

Six, five yards. Great. That's awesome. Shift. Shifting. Take the goalie out and get some goals. How do you not cheat during a live... Because it's a gentleman's game.

Yeah, you'd be honorable. What do you mean cheat? For a million bucks, bro. What are you, fluffing the fucking ball? He's saying you can go in and out of the game as you please. You've got to be off the field

right before the next guy goes on and tell him to cross it. How does hockey do it? It's like a line change. What do we think? I mean, there's some... You know, you pop off the boards just as he's coming on

and you catch the right time. I think you can do that. All right. I just want to make sure that I know all the rules so that I can take advantage of them to the maximum ability of the law. Yeah, this is your coach. Who's your coach? Yeah, you guys aren't here.

Who's it? A language barrier? Coach Gump. The group chats are funny because these guys are all obviously coming over from England. So we're like, we're set. Well, you got a bunch of legs. The temperate Jesus. Jet lag.

Got to bring him over early. Yeah. How many days in advance are you bringing the boys over? Stock up on toothbrushes. How many lads are you bringing over? No. I mean, you got to go with the NFL mentality that the later you come over, the better form. That's what it is.

Jet lag. That's what it is. That's a bad idea. Not in the summer. Same sport. Yeah, it makes sense. I have a teeth question before we move on. Fire away, bud. Do you guys just hate elephants?

And like, isn't that illegal? I think Tonat said something to me in person about this. I said, I don't think they use ivory for teeth, at least not in Ohio. They don't. Yeah, anymore. I think it's por something to me in person about this. I said, I don't think they use ivory for teeth, at least not in Ohio they don't. Yeah, anymore.

I think it's porcelain, right? Porcelain ivory. Yeah, mine is. Porcelain. So you guys got toilets in your mouth right now? Toilets! Poop mouth. Yeah.

So it almost should be a weapon, right? If you're chomping down a toilet, geez louise. You got toilet teeth, fucking dorks. There we go. Dorks. Wow. go. Dorks. Is that funny, JJ? Yeah. See you in North Carolina, pal.

Yes, you will. Watch those knees, brother. Do you need tickets? I'll get you a ticket. To what? I'll get you a ticket in the stands. You're not playing. You're not an athlete.

Connor might end up being a coach by the end of this. Oh, you hear that, JJ? I've been looking for an assistant, actually. Yeah, I might be the kit man, perhaps. Who knows? Have you revealed your uniform yet? Not yet. They are nice, though.

They are really nice. I thought Fanatics put them out before you wanted to announce them. No, no, no Fanatics deal for this one. Small letters. Bad designs. The match. Seathrow. I was just asking.

I don't know. I'm just curious. Rip when you slide, tackle. I mean, we do got some great shorts. So, you know, Adidas is the spot. You're going with like a three-inch short. I can see like a three-inch short. I mean, we got a guy named Brian Mazza.

Maz, he wears these short shorts when he's working out on Instagram. Maz, he's got these short shorts. I mean, he's got three-quarters of his thigh out. Wow. So I'm excited to see the amount of rolls that he puts. I was a shorts roller, though. Yeah, certainly. was a shorts roller, though. Yeah, certainly. Certainly a shorts roller.

And shirt, obviously, tucked in the front, let it hang in the back. So it always looks like I'm being held. Smart. Yeah, absolutely. A little gamesmanship. JJ, you can ask Kay and the coach some of your games you want to play. But I feel like Adidas was the sponsor of the tournament. So at soccer.com, you got a uniform from Adidas for, like, this amount.

And I looked. Yeah. We'll pay triple. We got Nike. We got some clean ass. Good decision. Yeah, we got some clean Nike unis. I mean, the boys are going to be buzzing.

We got training camp coming up here next weekend. So, you know, I'll have a full report on how the squad's doing. I'm looking forward to seeing that. What position are you planning to play? Goal scorer? I think I'm scoring goals, yeah. My touch might not be as sound as it needs to be in the back. Because in the back, bad touch, it's over.

It's going the other way. So I think you can probably hide me up in the front. But yeah, I'm going to score goals. I think I'm going to score goals. If I keep the ball on frame, JJ, and I've been told now that the frame we're going to be playing is... If I keep the ball on frame,

oh yeah, if I shoot the ball at the net, it's going to... Not this hard, brother. JJ, that's the thing. You talked about K sending the ball by and I have not seen K hit a ball or anything like that. But like, boy, it's been like

riding a bike hitting this soccer ball again it has been just like and at one point i've been clocked at 124 miles an hour with a soccer ball okay so we're talking about an actual mule here i spent my days as a child either out on the streets selling cigs at one point playing football doing my thing in the crate in the woods or kicking a soccer ball off the side of my fucking house that's literally all i did because i couldn't play video games and i had too much add to watch movies and tv so when nobody else when everybody else was doing something i was out kicking balls my whole life blew my knees out which shout out science shout out science you know we are we are doing it right now but yeah if i'm able to put it on net, I'm in a good spot. I mean, no goalie, no keeper, if you

actually hit it that hard in upper 90, you're not stopping that. That's a fact. Not only upper 90. I think if we're hitting thirds of net, we're in a good spot. I think we're in a very good spot. We'll find out training camp here in like two weeks.

We're going to find out. What position are you playing? You're playing defense. Well, I mean, we'll find out training camp here in like two weeks. We're going to find out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What position are you playing? You're playing defense. I'm honestly trying to figure it out. Like, when I say that I truly don't know what to expect in this tournament, like, when I was talking to the coach, I was like, I think, I mean, the safest position is obviously probably keeper. Like, that's the one that I probably can at least fake it

until I make it the most. But then I started talking about the outfield positions, and I'm like, okay, I'm not going to play defense because you actually have to run and keep up with guys. Striker is maybe the best because I can just try and jump and hit balls if people cross them. But I told him it's literally the least running, the least amount of running possible because that's where I'm going to get people who are going to fly past me. Maybe you play small forward. Yeah, there's no offside, brother.

You can just sit up there. Oh, yeah, cherry pick. Oh, you can cherry pick? Yeah, play left field, yeah. Oh, nice. Do that. We have a guy up top. Is shooting forward not a position, by the way?

I don't think it's been said. It's shooting guard and small forward. You're right in between the two. I assume at some point in basketball they said it, though. Oh, yeah. Point forward. I think we got a 6' they said it, though. Oh, yeah. Point forward. I think we got a 6'5 guy who's going to play up top. So that should be... Pizza Crouch?

Lexi Lawless? No, Lexi Lawless is not on our team, although not a bad addition. We actually have to make some cuts to Concava. What? You guys got cuts like the Olympic team? We got a cut. That's going to be tough. We sent out too many requests. Gump's is making picks like Team USA and Miracle. There's going to be tough. We sent out too many requests. Gump is making picks like Team USA and Miracle.

There's a chance, yeah. What training camp is for, boys? The thing is, do I take a seat and I go, you know what, boys, I'm actually going to coach this team. Oh, no. That's not a bad play. You can't do that. No.

We should have a minimum minutes requirement on the, like me, you, Ocho, those guys. We should have a minimum minutes requirement on the, like, me, you, Ocho, those guys. Like, we should have a minimum minutes requirement. 35. 35 minutes. I don't know if the game isn't even 35 minutes. In the weekend. Is it a real clock or is it a soccer clock?

How does it work? I think it's 40 minutes. I think it's 20-minute halves. I think they move. I think it's a moving clock. Running time. So it's not the extra garbage time that no one knows about? So the end of the game is the score to win thing.

Oh, okay. NBA All-Star Game. It's after the 40 minutes. You play the 40, and then whoever's up, it's the next goal wins for them or if the person scores more. Yeah, so it's like 4-3. We're up. Concava over Burnley.

40 minutes is up. We're now in the target goal time, I think is what they call it. So the game is the 5 now. So we've got to score one more. They've got to score two. And then the game's over. Always ends on a goal. Always ends on a goal. That could take a long time. If nobody scores in 10 minutes, they take a guy off each team off the pitch.

Way to go, coach. On it. Already on it. You said get the goalies? Get the goalies. Yeah, we won goals. It's so hard to get the ball. I don't even have a shot on goal. Good job, Colt. You said get the goalies? He is on it. Get the goalies out of there? Get the goalies. Yeah, we won goals. It's so hard to get the ball. I don't even have a shot on goal. Take the goalies. It's a 65-yard field.

Guys would just be clipping balls from literally. All right, I want to see 22 to 21 games. There we go, A. All right. Hey, PK has a sweet jumper. I don't know. Is he on either of your teams? I saw him.

He has a silky smooth jumper here. J. Tatum. J. Tatum. That's it right there, the Euro. Hockey players. You guys been out to a fever game yet? Season hasn't started, you asshat. I mean, the preseason has.

Hal, pay attention. Speaking of paying, 33 grand for season tickets we paid. We're supporting. We're supporting WNBA. Hell yeah. Hope you're doing the same, JJ. Hope you're supporting WNBA. I love it Hope you're doing the same. Hope you're doing the same, JJ. Hope you're supporting WNBA. I love it.

I think it's incredible. It's a lot of fun. It's incredible what's going on. Who's your team? Who's your team? Charter Flights. How about Caitlin? I mean, down here we have the Mercury.

Kay was in Chicago, and she's been to a couple Sky games up there. Oh, yeah. I mean, down here, Mercury. Sky dominated last night. Mercury aren't even part of the car. Top stage referee for Card down here, Mercury. Sky dominated last night. Top stage for Cardozo, though. Cardozo, 4-6. It's nice to see they're getting chartered flights. That's huge news.

WNBA to begin charter flights this season. WNBA Commissioner Kathy Engelbert announced the league's plans to start the charter flight program this season. I'm not saying that there is a class of girls coming into the WNBA that are potentially changing everything, but boy, it feels like there is a class of women's basketball players that are changing literally everything. Remember, this got brought in a conversation when Brittany Griner was walking through a

public airport somewhere, and somebody asked her if she liked America a little bit more now after experiencing what Russia was and then the harassment. And all of us were like, listen, whatever your feelings are on that entire situation, Brittany Griner should not be just moseying through an airport right now. Everybody's going to know exactly where she's going. That is not a thing. And then you start thinking about a professional league. Yeah, at least get your people to and from.

Now WNBA is ponying up, I guess. And I don't know who and how it came to be, but let's go W. Yeah. Awesome. Like, how's that happen, you think? Like a sponsor? NBA? Would the NBA, would that be something they would be like,

hey, we can help you out with travel? The NBA helps a lot of the whole league already. So it could just be on top of it. How come it hasn't? I think that's the big question. Did somebody say, you know what, yeah. Yeah, where did it come from? It did come very, very quickly, which is great.

But yeah, I mean, I feel like we just saw that video of Caitlin Clark in the airport the other day, obviously. That's where it came from. I don't know if that expedited things or what it is. But you think some farmer in Iowa was like, or maybe Phil Knight was like, hey, I don't think so. She's not getting accosted everywhere she goes. Let's get them on some private flights. Well, you got to do it for the whole league then.

We can't just do it for one person. Well, whatever. As long as she's doing it, then that's just fine. And it's not like you're walking through the airport as an individual where it's like, oh, is that person playing or not? You're a whole WNBA team walking through the airport i mean that is bringing every eyeball to you and if that gets to what we want it to be it's like there should be and hopefully a lot of shit talk going on you know and then a

ruckus too so good move shout out to the w awesome all right jj we'll see you down in north carolina pal thank you for bullying austin rivers yesterday without knowing the whole story um i mean it's on you guys it Austin Rivers yesterday without knowing the whole story. I mean, it's on you guys. It's your show. You're the one who put it out there for the world. It didn't get full context. I blame you.

It's NBA Central. It's probably what you got. It's probably, yep, exactly. Thank you. Foxy had a question, though, because Dan Orlovsky said something awesome on the air. Yeah, JJ, is your brother tj any good at basketball did he play basketball growing up we just need to know that um he's a phenomenal athlete but i wouldn't say it's i wouldn't uh i wouldn't say that in the nba argument i don't know if he's transferring over i mean dunks fouls uh

rebounds is about it yeah i mean he can do like a he's done you can do a through the legs dunk i mean we do dunk contests. Do you play nine feet? Do you dribble? What, at nine feet? Like, that's normal? No, no. You guys lower the rim and do dunk contests at one feet and a half?

Like, during that whole thing yesterday, somebody tweeted me and said, can you even dunk? And I'm like, that then is insulting. Because I'm like, don't. Okay, yes. Maybe I can't go out there and make 23s in a row. Um, but I can do some shit now. I'm an athlete. Don't like, don't get it twisted. I mean, I'm Matt, I'm an athlete here.

So like, I'll be humble here and there, but like, that's like when people are like same thing, same thing with the thing about he can't even play anymore. Why would we want his trash? I was like, okay, hold on a second now. Okay, top 10 in sacks and TFL is my last year. Let's calm the fuck down. Everybody calm the fuck down. Hell yeah.

Hey, talk your shit, JJ. Hell yeah. Talk your shit. We appreciate you, man. All right. All right, guys. Now I'm going to go hit the squat rack again. All right?

See you later. Maybe have some Miller Lights. What? Watch Burnley. What? Take a visit to Dirt. What? We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Wallace. Watch Burnley. Take a visit to Derek's. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen.

JJ Wall. Let's get to a break. I got to go to the bathroom. I knew TJ could go through the legs if he waited to. JJ and TJ having dunk contests while Derek's just sitting there going, what the fuck did I do? Why am I short? Running his head into a wall.

Oh, yeah. Can you guys do this, though? Yeah. Dude, that's JJ. guys do this, though? Yeah. Dude, that's JJ. How tall is he? That's a drop step. 6'6", he said. Yeah, can you dunk at 6'6"?

Think about being 6'6 and not being able to dunk, though. That is what he is. He's a news kid. And squatting that much weight, too. Yeah, those are men. I know. That's what I'm saying. He makes people look like kids.

A guy in a white cutoff there. Right there. Look at that pocket pass. Is that makes people look like kids. A guy in a white cutoff there. Right there. Look at that pocket pass. Is that T? Oh, sweet. Is that T? Is this an Indianapolis? Got the same dims.

Same dims. Same athleticism, too. I mean, T used to be able to spin that thing. Great lunch. Yeah, it was really good. Great apple. All right, let's get to a break. So, Dan Orlovsky was just, yeah, completely out of pocket.

Just being an asshole. Shooting from the hip. Well. Out of pocket Orlovsky. He should have thrown one in there that was like, obviously, no. He should have said A.Q. Shipley. Who? Yeah.

He should have just done that instead. A lot of people were saying that. They did. Well, A.Q. A few in there. A.Q. could do it. Got buckets. Yeah, yeah.

A.Q. That's all I thought about. Whippeel Hall of Fame. A.Q. is a high school Hall of AQ could do it. Yeah, AQ. That's all I thought about. AQ is a high school Hall of Fame basketball player. That is a real... How is Hutch? He play basketball? See, that's the thing. We're thinking the same thing as TJ. He just

went through rosters and said, hey, guy's athletic. This guy's more athletic than you think. That's what Daniel loves. Did Mahomes play back? Maybe. DeForest Buckner. I mean, Trent Williams should be on that list if it was just an athleticism thing. He'd be awesome. Where's Debo, too? Is he on there?

No, I don't think so. Debo found a way to find himself. Put McCaffrey on there, though. Instead of IU. C-M-C-O-I. Oi. Oi. Let's get to a break.

John Lynch was awesome last week. Incredible. Love John Lynch. Yeah. Oi. Let's get to a break. John Lynch was awesome last week. Incredible. Love John Lynch. For shoot. A lot of things happened immediately after John Lynch was on. You know, big long weekend. So kind of got lost in the scrum.

John Lynch was awesome. Howie. Awesome. He talked shit to Coach DeMani. What was that all about? Coach DeMani kind of got Coach. Yeah. All the GMs were. What was that all about? Coach came on and kind of got him. Yeah, all the GMs were good. That came on, yeah.

Let's get to a break. We're going to wrap up this show with Pat Cavanaugh. Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. I've been following. He plays this sport. That sport right here. Is that a good little sawed-off stick?

It looks a little shorter. That's a goal scorer. Yes. I need to get that. My sport right here. Is that a good little sawed-off stick? It looks a little shorter. That's a goal scorer. Yes. I need to get that. My kids need that. That's normal. This is what? This is normal?

Okay. You're just big. You make it look smaller. Well, I'm not a long pole guy. I'm just fucking crafty with this one. Obviously. Look at that. You see, that's great.

Look at you. Boom. You can throw left. Well, you're ambidextrous, too. You can lefty, righty, easy. Yeah. Right with that thing. Throw a boat. Yeah, I'm cradling. That's what. Lefty, righty, easy. Right with that thing. Throw a boat.

Yeah, I'm cradling. That's what we do. Throw a boat, baby. Yeah, the row the boat celebration is always a good one. Oh, yeah, this one right here. Row, row, row the boat. Gently down the stream. What about, are we doing fucking?

You can go there. Ian Rappaport. Jimmy Graham in the fucking Arctic. Yeah, true. What's the guy's problem? Let's call him. Let's call Jimmy. What do you mean? Yeah, call him That's the guy's problem. Let's call him. Let's call Jimmy. What do you mean?

Yeah, call him up again. Let's call Jimmy Graham. I'm going to ask him why the fuck he's doing it. I got to pee, so I don't have all day with Jimmy Graham. But I would like to know why the fuck he's doing it. Tell him that. Say, I don't have all day. Call me.

Jimmy, I don't have all day. I got to pee. That's perfect. Call him that way. Okay, cool. What's up? Happy to be here. Thank you for calling me.

I am impressed, Jimmy, but I didn't even know. The fuck are we doing in the Arctic? You don't need to do that. Titanic tried it. Yeah, if anything, now go try and play in the NBA for us. Yeah, Jimmy, we need you to go play. That's what we need. We need you to get back to the court.

Yes. Hey, at the Derby, the Army paratroopers or whatever came in, and two guys, we saw them coming down, and they landed right on the finish line. It was awesome to watch the The whole place started chanting USA. And Jimmy's like, oh, yeah, I jumped with those guys like eight months ago. Joining us now is the man who jumped with the Paratroopers. They're laying ready to finish the line.

Perfect game. Some people have missed an entire stadium with a game ball. Not America's finest. Ladies and gentlemen, Jimmy Graham. Yeah, Jimmy. Jimmy, thank you for taking time out of your day to join us. We won't be long. I do have to piss.

But it just came up, okay? You're doing this Arctic thing. We won't be long. I do have to piss, but it just came up. Okay. You're doing this Arctic thing. You're doing this. Why are we doing this? Didn't we learn from the Titanic that we don't need to be fucking around with the Arctic and boats or what? How do we sign up for this?

How do we get into this, Jimmy? Yeah. Um, so, uh, one of my best friends, uh, you know, he was a Navy SEAL and, and for the last 10 years, he's, he's had this goal in his life when he retires to, uh, to row across an ocean. And I've always said no. And then last year, uh, he got his MBA at Cambridge and at his graduation, uh, we're at a pub getting kind of banged up. And, um, that's when we decided that we were going to take on a task of rowing across an ocean. And then, uh, Hannah and John, uh, during the season, it was actually on Sunday right before the game, I got a DM, and it said, I heard you're trying to sail around the world.

Have you ever thought about rowing? And that's how it all started. And now here we sit, the Arctic Challenge 2025. Man, when you guys drink, you talk about different stuff. Yeah. 25. Man, when you guys drink, you talk about different stuff. Yeah.

Then when me and Mike, you know, well, we need people like you and the Navy SEAL who also has an MBA from Cambridge who wants to row across an ocean. This one going to be the Arctic. Now, I saw the we went to the website to kind of inspire others to take on tasks that are seemingly impossible. And there's something else we could do, you know know, other than, you know, seemingly death here. Because you don't even got to worry about the ice, you know, which they should have seen. We think of Titanic. And they said, we're going to forge the river or whatever. But also, these killer whales are smart, Jim. These fucking whales are smart.

Paint your boat white. Well, that's for the turtles. I think that's for the turtle attacks. That won't happen. But these whales team up to get these damn seals and they create this massive wave and then they knock the seal out and then guess what that thing is a appetizer for all the way what are you you're gonna be in a boat out there in the middle of that thing with a seal with with a navy seal oh what are we doing do we have like

protective dolphins around us like the seals have what is it what is the setup going to be do you know chase boat yeah bingo do you have a no um well so unfortunately we're we're chasing five or five or more world records so because of that we can't have a chase boat we can't have a follow vote so once we take off from uh trums in norway uh through the fjords we're going to be on our own uh chasing these world records um one we we're the first all-American team ever. USA! USA! USA! Let's go get it. Let's go get it, Jimmy. Okay, cool, cool. Dumb, but cool. It sounds like super American, actually.

I love what we're doing there. Go ahead. I'm sorry I interrupted. Yeah, they'll be the first married couple to do it, Hannah and John. They have a small child, And then I'll be the first minority. And then we're chasing the actual time record, which is, I believe, 15 days, just over 15 days. So we basically row two hours on, two hours off. And like me, I'll burn between 10,000 to 12,000 calories a day. And then on my two, on my two hours off, um, I'll have to, uh, uh, because I'm lead navigator and lead comms and lead weather, I'll have to speak to our,

our weather ground crew, um, and make sure we're on the same route and make sure that we're looking at these fronts that are coming through because obviously the weather is very treacherous up there. Um, the water's extremely cold. We can only stop. I mean, you can barely survive at all if you get in that water and can't get out. So, you know, this is obviously very dangerous. We're taking this obviously very serious, getting a lot of certifications. We have a coach, Duncan, who has numerous world records, has been across every ocean there is in the world. We have a great team medically that's going to be assisting us via phone and training up until then.

And it's going to be the most intense thing I've ever done because, one, I've never rowed before. I'm the only one who hasn't rowed. Oh, record. Lead navigator. Lead weather, lead comms. Never done it? Never done the thing before yeah

go across the arctic 15 days two hours on two hours off we'll be okay we got a phone in the fucking arctic of course yeah of course of course you do the the whole hey we're appreciative of who you are like where do you finish where's the finish line? It's Longinburn, which is in the middle of the Arctic Ocean. It's almost like this glacier island. And one, we will have sat links, so hopefully on the row at some point. I'd love to give you guys a call, give you guys an update as I'm sleep deprived. And pass the phone around and get everybody to say their piece. Because we're going to be very alone and very worried at multiple times,

especially with the big swells up there. But the good thing is this whole entire thing, as we get rowing, we're starting a fundraising campaign for several charities in New Orleans, especially the Covenant House New Orleans, who shelter 650 kids a year and we're going to try to raise over a million dollars for them by doing this and we're going to be connecting them with the Saints and with Tulane University trying to get them involved with programs and really my purpose of doing this is showing that anything's possible if you put your mind to it and you know from my background I literally sat in a facility just like that as a young kid.

So I understand how difficult it can be. And I just wish that when I was in there that I knew somebody was rowing for me to live a better life up until I'm 18. That's awesome. Hey, hell yeah, Jimmy. Still think it's wild, but hell yeah. Going to make you a better person. I'll tell you what. Go ahead.

I don't know when the married couple, they set that record. I don't know when that'll be broken, but that minority record, I think that's gonna last for a long time. Forever. Congratulations. Congratulations.

I would have never guessed. Whenever you said you were the first minority, I would have never guessed. I would have never guessed. It was only white people. I would have never guessed that that was the gays. Hey, you go do it. Hey, good luck out there, Jimmy. We're proud of you, buddy. I appreciate it, guys. I guess it. It's only white people. I would never guess it. That was the gazebo. You go do it. Hey, good luck out there, Jimmy.

We're proud of you, buddy. I appreciate it, guys. I appreciate it. Hey, thank you for answering. Where are you headed right now? Are you going to go fight a fire? No, I was just at the airport, but I'm going to be heading out, flying out across the country tomorrow,

so I'm just preparing for that, bringing the bike and everything. But you guys have got to come to the hangar and shoot one of your shows. We'll have you guys set up. I'll take you up in the helicopter. I'll give everybody an aerobatic ride. You guys will get these aerobatics. No, no, Pat as well. You got to go skydiving with me at Homestead General.

We'll get all that done. Yeah, of course. Skydive, you're too heavy. I'm too heavy. I know the weight. I can't do that. That's the thing that happens. Sorry.

Gravity, son of a bitch. So good. Gravity's so good. Undefeated. All right. Well, Jimmy, I'm sure none of that will happen other than doing a show at your hangar. We will do that.

I'm not signing up for any aerobatic shit, but I can't wait to see everybody else in there. Good for you guys. Hell there. Good for you guys. Hell yeah. Good for you guys. You're the best, ladies and gentlemen, Jimmy Graham. Yay, Jimmy! That even exists. Mm-hmm.

Lead moms, lead weather. Lead math. Never rode before. Well, that's probably why he's lead math. He'll have to do a lot of... I think from flying, flying too he's used to checking the weather and sailing around the world and wow you're right while they're doing uh yeah you know and he's probably a great boost he's such a big son of a bitch once they get a little tired hey jimmy get on that side we need to go full speed put three other people is it better

to put the big fuck in the front or the back oh yeah how's that ask ian rappleport assume back i believe because you don't want the uh nose of the ship but if you're going through ice maybe you go jimmy you jump front so yeah it's gonna have to be big though like they're gonna have to have a bathroom on there and a little way yeah it's huge we have this vessel we have a picture of the vessel it is a ron obviously rx-45 good model that's a good 9.6 meters in length and uh 1.7 meter beam obviously and you know carbon fiber this thing's light but it's tough uh and there's two cabins you can sleep bone poop sleep what do you do and uh three rowing positions so okay so there's four of them right yep two on

two off that's why you just move one of the cabins. You fall asleep. Bingo. Two hours. With how big Jimmy's going to be, and he's just going to be laying there. Eight big fucks. So happy this thing is here. His dumps. 10,000 to 12,000 calories. Fuck. He's wild. 15 straight days.

15 days. One of one. He's the guy, too. They're going to do it in 14. It'd be tough to be on a cruise ship for 15 days. Yeah. It'd be tough just to go ahead and put anywhere right there. Great point.

Great point. But instead, he's going to be on the Ron-Oc GX-45. Good rig. Good rig. That is a good rig. If I was going to go across the Arctic, I want the Ron-Oc personally. So I'm happy they went with that. At least we're on the same page.

He said we're going to have some satellite and we're going to need to talk to somebody. It's going to get real sad out there. We'll be your pen pal while you're out there in the fucking Arctic. How about him saying obviously the water is really cold. The Arctic. Yeah, we knew that.

The water? Arctic cold. It's not just cold. Just think of throwing in the ocean at night, too. Like, especially with weather. That is not. Okay, so. When is this? Those storms that happen.

Next summer. Do they not happen in the Arctic? Oh, no, no, no. He said that. He said we're very worried about the swells. That's where the perfect storm was, basically. No. Well, I know.

It was off Gloucester, but it was up into the Arctic. Thank you. They need to make this a documentary. I assume they're filming it. I mean, somebody can call us. It's cloudy around, mean cloud cover, ranging from 60%

in the winter to over 80% in the summer. The temperature of the surface water of the Arctic Ocean, fairly constant, approximately minus 1.8. 28 degrees. That's not bad. That's it? That's not bad. Yeah, that's great.

That's not bad. What if I negative 28? Everybody's doing these cold tops. I think I've seen Rogan in a 28.8. Yeah, every day. So how is it? So there's a whole other science question. How is water average 28.8 degrees? That should be fucking ice.

Salt. The salt. Salt breaks it up like it's a driveway? Doesn't salt make it a lower freeze temperature when you put salt in there? What is the freeze temperature of salt? That's great. I would like to know. I only know from making homemade ice cream. Chopper puts salt in it. Really? That's brilliant. So it makes

sense because salt cuts ice, I guess. Right? That's why we're all doing it on a driveway. Freshwater is 32. Seawater freezes at 28.4. And they're at 28.8. Yeah, 0.4 degrees. Makes sense. A little bit of wiggle room there.

They're close. A little bit. That's why they're doing this in the summer. That's why they're doing this in the summer. Yeah, can we get a time? He said you won't last long. How long exactly until you die? In the water? Like three minutes

before you probably pass out if you don't have one of those life suits on. So the person who's sleeping in one of the cabins flips. See ya. Somebody's got to immediately wakey wakey. Let alone drown but like just oh. You saw Deadliest

Catch didn't you when someone gets yanked over the edge a couple times? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. All right, let's get to a break. Positive box. Yeah, you're right.

Positive box. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What was JJ being all negative about? What if, like, Shockey said, JJ, that ain't that JJ we know. That's the one we want to see in Raleigh, though. Yeah. That's exactly the one we want to see.

We're starting to see that already, it seems like, by the way he's talking. I don't know what position I'm going to play. I don't even know how to play. It's a different sport. Is that like goal or outfield? Hey, bud, outfield is what it's called. What was it, two weeks ago he was saying? Yes.

Who's going to score more goals? Let's make a bet, me and you. JJL. I don't know if either of us are getting fucking near that net. There's a lot of professionals playing. Who added a team today? Who's added to a team today? What's the guy's name?

Sebastian Giovinko. Unbelievable for Italy. Finished his career at Toronto FC. He's not buffoon, but we certainly have respect. But Giovinko, he might be. A couple years ago, we were betting on Toronto FC every game because of him. No, it was because of Bradley. Yeah, Michael Bradley.

That too. Wow, we look like we because of Bradley. Yeah, Michael Bradley. That too. Wow, we look like we just know soccer. Yeah. That bald. He used to run like 18 miles a game for the U.S. national team. Let's go to a break. Pat Cavanaugh on the other side of lacrosse. We talked soccer today.

We talked football. We talked basketball. We talked hockey. Rowing. Rowing. Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! Ords! or normally what we talk about uh but over the past couple days we were just chit-chatting about it that's aj hawk the talk table is here at boston connor and that tie schmidt one half of the hammer cowboys tone digs your 12-year nfl vet in universal records label signed rapper pac-man jones is here and nine-year nfl vet derry state butler here is here indeed but

you mentioned something during a break we are an educational program how come nobody ever talks about that we're learning a lot of shit around here i just i was telling tony walked off i'm like man i learned a lot of shit on this stage last time we covered football hockey all the sports obviously we learned about animals yesterday of course you're dabbling in politics maybe you're here and there. Coming up. Don't you worry. Hypothermia. When is the freaking water?

Like salt. All this shit. How about Canada? Make a homemade ice cream. Canada. Canada. Improvises. Holy shit.

What a show. How about this is only going to get better. History. Do a lot of history. Feels like some generations missed history completely. Yeah, go to class. Don't love that. Don't love that at all Well if you don't know your history

You're guaranteed to make the same mistakes again Bound to repeat itself You know what I learned this week A lot of people learned this week If you don't eat You get hungry You get really hungry Tony come on man

And if you don't drink water You get really hungry. Tony, come on, man. And if you don't drink water? You get very thirsty. And if you seize a building, you will get locked in it, I think is what Tony's alluding to. Oh, okay. You're back in the, okay. Yeah, which is the learning. Once again, education.

Highest level at those places. Oh, yeah. That's the highest level. That's what the smartest people on earth are striving to be. Way up there. The most connected people of all time. Their kids striving to get in there. And then we're listening to them talk like,

oh, the future's fucked if these are the ones that are running everything. But nonetheless, we are joined by a man who is going to captivate the world in the future by his goddamn great lacrosse abilities. Hell, yeah. This guy's a national champion. He's part of a family of lacrossers. And ladies and gentlemen, he was the sixth overall pick last night in the PLL draft. Future Boston Cannon.

Hell yeah. Current fighting Irishman. Ladies and gentlemen, Patty Cavanaugh. Yay! How we doing? We cradling, boys? We cradling out here. How are the Notre Dame boys?

I know we won the ACC. The big March madness for lacrosse starts on Sunday. We got the winner of Albany and Sacred Heart. How do the boys feel right now, Cavi? We buzzing out there or what, Paul? They're good, yeah. I'd say that accent is more of a hockey accent than a lacrosse accent. Well, funny thing about that, lacrosse is actually Kansas fucking sport, Pat.

All right, okay, sorry. I got to teach fucking sport, Pat. So, yeah, all right. Okay, sorry. I got to teach you about your sport. This is an educational program. Are the boys buzzing there in Notre Dame, or what do we got buzzing, man? Yeah, we had selection Sunday a couple days ago. Fresh off an ACC championship victory. So, we're feeling good.

And then we got our first round matchup at home on Sunday. So excited for that. Go ahead, AJ. Does it even matter to your opponent, or is it just about you guys and what you do on that field? I mean, there's a lot of scouting that goes into each week, but our team is really focused on ourselves, and we feel we got the deepest roster in the country. So if we just come out and execute our game plan every week we're going to have success

so we're just focused on ourselves a lot. You were the national champs last year, coming in with big old bullseye and after you guys won national championship I understand there were some injuries that had to get taken advantage of but then you guys went on a booze binge for what? Like six months? Seemingly

like six months if I do recall it accurately. We sent beers to the boys in europe i think a couple different i mean we felt like we were enjoying a victory lap uh for the notre dame are you guys better this year than you were last year and how is that even is that possible um yeah i'd say we're deeper for sure at a lot of different positions uh guys are more experienced we had never won a national championship before, so I think having that experience, making that run in May and getting that feeling of winning is definitely helping our team out.

Have a lot more success this year, and we picked up some good transfers in the transfer portal. Deb McLean from Brown, BJ Burle from Maryland, Jake Bonomi from Michigan, Danny Parker from UVA. So, yeah, we got a great team, and I'm excited for this run in May. Is there NIL stuff going on with that transfer portal, or is it just wanting to go play for their team that wants you that's best? Is it like a re-recruiting, or is there NIL shit in there as well?

It's starting to gain more traction in the lacrosse world. I know a lot of different programs are getting into it. Not as much at Notre Dame, and obviously not as big of a deal as football. Obviously, they've got millions of dollars to play with, and they generate the most revenue. Lacrosse isn't there yet, but I feel like it could get there eventually. Yeah, it's the sport of the future. It is the sport of the future.

Connor's got a question for you, Pat. Yeah, Pat, you haven't mentioned superstar Jordan Faison. He was playing for the Notre Dame football team, also playing for the lacrosse team. Another question I would have for you, Pat, do you believe that lacrosse players can play in the NFL or the NBA? I mean, definitely not the NBA. Those guys are freaks.

There's been some lacrosse players who have had success playing basketball. This guy, Pat Spencer, who made the Warriors roster. He played lacrosse at Loyola for four years, won the Tauritana Award, which is the best, the Heisman of college lacrosse, and then did his fifth year at Northwestern for basketball and then went to Europe, played pro there, and then made the G League team the Warriors and then signed an NBA contract. So I definitely think it's possible. Lacrosse players are definitely some of the best athletes in the world,

in my opinion. And then I don't know if you guys watched March Madness. NC State's point guard, Michael Connell, I actually played lacrosse with him in high school, went to the same high school as him. He was committed to Maryland for lacrosse. His brother, Tom, he played, was a point guard um for his basketball team as well so there's definitely a lot of crossover and cam spencer as well pat spencer's brother who just won the championship with uconn

he was committed to loyola for lacrosse he was going to follow in his brother pat's footsteps play lacrosse at loyola and then ended up playing basketball in college so there's definitely um great athletes in the sport of lacrosse and yeah i'd say they're up there with any other sport i did not expect lacrosse to be anywhere near good at basketball oh yeah they got doubts not even a not even a thought in this brain here because chris hogan obviously yeah was the big story you know like oh this guy didn't even play for his lacrosse every single time he did anything and you start thinking about the sport. There's a lot of movement, a lot of physicality as well,

so I think mentally tough, and a lot of cardio, right? Conditioning is absurd for you guys, it feels like. Is that accurate? Yeah. I mean, depending on your position, midfielders can be running like seven, eight, nine miles a game. I'm not really sure what the data is there, but it feels like you're running the whole game.

So, yeah, you've got to be in really good shape and really athletic. I mean, it translates to a lot of other sports. You've got a strong core, lower body. Tell us about the football player on your team. Is he still a stud? I remember he had a hat trick first game or whatever. He's bigger, stronger, faster than everybody. Is that still the case?

Yeah, he's a freshman, so he had a lacrosse scholarship out of high school to play lacrosse here. He's from Florida, was an option quarterback in high school, and then committed to lacrosse here. Walked on the football team as a wide receiver and just killed it in training camp. Got a look because a bunch of wide receivers got hurt

and then scored a touchdown against Louisville, got a full scholarship to football. So he's been balancing both. He's an incredible athlete. He's on our first-line midfield, one of the best freshmen in college lacrosse. He's having a great year. He's got like 20 goals, close to 30 points, I think. Not really sure of stats, but he plays the whole game for us every game.

And we also have Tyler Bucknerner the former notre dame and alabama quarterback he transferred back to notre dame in january he actually played in the rose bowl on january 8th and then we had our first pre-season practice for lacrosse here january 9th so he was at our first practice the next day after unfortunately losing in the rose bowl but it was pretty cool just seeing showing up showing up the locker room we got an alabama notre dame football player chilling in our locker room with us so that was cool and he's actually starting to get a lot more time now he's playing defensive midfield he's a freak athlete the kid's an insane athlete and he just keeps getting better at lacrosse so and he was actually committed to michigan in the eighth grade or seventh grade for lacrosse and then

ultimately chose to play football so there's definitely some freak athletes in the sport of lacrosse and i'm just excited to watch um playing the pll this summer and then just for the continued growth of the sport as a whole it'll be in the olympics in 2028 so it's incredible how fast it's growing let's make sure we get some cavanaugh boys in that olympics okay for the united states of america uh talking about the pll go ahead it seems like they'll definitely be in there. Obviously, you're leaving Notre Dame and going to play with your big brother now up in Boston. Did you see that coming? Did you expect to go six to the Boston Cannons?

And what's the vibes going into that? I mean, me and my family and Matt, we've kind of been manifesting that for the past year. I knew it was my last year. I was going to get drafted this year. So we've been talking about it for a while but they had the sixth pick and i was kind of i guess projected to go in the first few so i didn't really think it was going to happen after the season the cannons had and the success they had but um i guess just how the draft shook out a bunch of teams needed players at different positions and um i just fell right in the cannon slap at six and i couldn't be more excited i was so happy we'll set it up yeah definitely good man

definitely i mean not even a dot not even a dot everyone knows that canyons i mean they're the draw the plo what do you want the cavanaugh cannons yeah i mean what do we even i mean you can get a jersey with matt's number on the front, Pat's on the back, and still just have Kavanaugh. And you're telling us they didn't tell you that before the draft? They didn't say, hey, yeah, obviously you're going to play with your fucking brother. They didn't say that to you beforehand?

You were surprised like the rest of us? Yeah, no, I had no idea where I was going to get picked. There were some rumors going around that certain guys were going to get picked in certain spots, but I legit had no clue. I found out when everyone else did live on the ESPN stream. He almost pulled the Laramie Tunsil to get his name

to drop a couple. Oh yeah, you're going to gas mask yourself there? I was on FaceTime with my brothers a couple hours before the draft and we were thinking about pulling the Laramie so I could fall sick

but it ended up working out uh a couple times you've uh dipped your head there you have a uh a rangers cop on i don't know if you know this uh we had moose on earlier did you see that pat we had mark messier on earlier he crushed yeah he's a legend i'm a diehard new york rangers fan this is my dad's hat from when they won in 1994. So my dad's from Queens, grew up a huge Ranger fan, raised us all to be diehard Ranger fans. And actually last year, me and my brother Chris drove back to South Bend. It was like a 12-hour drive.

And we listened to Mark Messier's entire audio book on the way there, his memoir. So I was just like, I couldn't believe that I was coming on the show two guests after Mark Messier and J.J. Watt and Jimmy Graham. Not bad either in between. Mark Messier is like one of my heroes. The guy is such a legend. I'm a huge hockey fan, and I kind of bring that hockey style

to my game in lacrosse, which is why a lot of people, I don't know, they think I'm a scumbag out there. I just play like I'm a hockey player. And I don't know. It's just, yeah, it's incredible. Did you play hockey growing up? Yeah, not at a high level. I played with actually my goalie, who you shouted out, Liam Entenman, who was MVP of the championship weekend last year.

Me and him were on the same travel hockey team from the age of five until we were about 12 or 13. So to be on his team now and be his roommate is incredible. Is he still standing on his head? Is that guy still standing on his head? Yeah, he's having an insane year. He's one of the reasons why we're the number one ranked team in the country. We're number one? I didn't know that. Holy shit.

Let's get the helmet back on. Oh, yeah. I didn't know we were number one. I thought there was no chance. I thought the Ivy League. I was going to ask where the helmet went. I saw that you ran out of space. We're working on that after.

Yeah, I mean, we're going to clear this whole fucker thing out. The issue is I can't be here when it gets cleared out. I'd be okay if all these things were never in my life again. Not all of them. There's some stuff here that I really like. But me doing it myself, I can't look at it. I'm like, oh, I feel like a bad guy if I'm getting rid of that. So what's going to happen, I believe, in a couple different locations that I'm at,

the boys are just going to go swipe some shit. Now this has got to stay. Oh, yeah, sure. This has got to stay. Jesus Christ has been dancing all over the place. This has got to stay. But there's a lot of other shit. And then this, I mean, this is the history of the show right here. Yeah, that's it.

This is the history of the show right here. This is every day, literally, that we've ever had. Isn't that fucking crazy? That's the encyclopedia. I wonder what the first... Too heavy, I'm not going to be able to move it. Yeah. Anyways, we're trying to find some space for a fucking rig here.

We're number one team in the country. I didn't know we were... To be honest, I didn't know that. And I did feel like I was part of the team for a day and a half. Remember when we did a team meeting? Yes, of course. I was in there talking shop with you guys, cradling a little bit. It was a blast to see the boys.

I mean, just like hockey and basketball, we know lacrosse season starts this week. Right now. On Sunday. Bingo. Congratulations, Albany, or fucking Sacred or sacred heart good year you got to play in to play us okay you're done boom there it is sick helmet yeah that's a bad spot yeah what about this cradle that's right that's right brother yeah rip it you see i've been working on it cavi i've been working look at, Cavie. I've been fucking working on it. Look at this ball. You got a ball? Offhand.

Offhand. Yeah, we need to get you a ball. We have a hockey ball somewhere. Fire one. How are you going to fire a shot? What's it look like? Fire that fucking ball. Hold on.

I don't have any balls. You use a baseball? I don't have any fucking balls on here. AJ, I know your son's playing lacrosse. Oh, yeah. What should they do? All four of my kids play lacrosse. My daughter does.

She wants to put the pads on and hit. They should let the girls play like the guys, I think. Hell, yeah. What should they do? All four of my kids play lacrosse. My daughter does. She wants to put the pads on and hit. They should let the girls play like the guys, I think. Hell, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the women's sport is completely different, but the guys' sport is incredibly physical. That's cool that your sons play. I'd love to potentially give them some lessons someday.

How much would that cost? Hey, hold on. We're not doing shit for free. Oh, no. We'll pay you double than what you would charge anyone else. Yeah, they would love it. The Cavanaugh boys do camps, right? That's a part of the hustle, right, of lacrosse? That's a real thing. That's legit.

Yeah, pretty much. I mean, my family brand is my family last name has become a pretty big name in the sport of lacrosse. So yeah, I guess we're just going to try and Well, you've got a Plum High School? How come you haven't been to plum high school yet

to teach our high school lacrosse team we've got some fucking dogs I just go on a website I say hey I want you fucks to come teach our team to be better or what I don't know we're going to try me and my brothers anyone else who wants to join

hopefully a few kids on my ND team and some other PLL guys travel across the country this year and run some camps. When's this happening? Don't you have like a Kavanaugh Sports Group account? Like isn't there something you guys have? Yeah, we got an Instagram account. We got some camps cooking in the works. Final details haven't been finalized yet.

Final details, we don't have a fucking clue what they are. We will sit down one day and piece this whole thing together. If you would like the Kavanaugh boys to come to town, we certainly would like to do that somehow, some way. We would like to hire the Kavanaugh boys to go to Plum High School. There you go. We would like to hire, whenever you guys figure out how to do a fucking camp. I don't know how easy that's going to be.

A lot of logistics. But when you guys figure that out, let us know. Gotta do it. Trade the Esports team while you're there. Yeah, the Manic Passing Academy happens. I mean, that's a good business. That's good business if you can get into that. And also, giving it back to the game, obviously.

Which is good. All for the kids. Get a bar down. Get going. Get going. What the fuck, Pat? That's a good touch pass. We do not have a... There's a hockey ball. Maybe go near side. Go near side here.

No, no. That ain't good. Fucking launch that thing. Get going. Get in. Get in. Oh, no. Get in. Here we go. This one's it. That mirror's a tough mirror.

Oh, yeah. No chance. Oh, you're going to make that. You're going to make that. You're in the same angle as me. You could throw probably one of those footballs like you're kicking one. Yeah, you're right. Patty Cavanaugh. Good news. This one goes in.

You guys are going back to back. Okay. And if it doesn't, that doesn't mean anything. Natty. Oh, my. Finding it a bit. Finding it a bit. Yeah, hold on.

Alabama football on the green. You should get an intramural league or something. Who, me? Yeah. Yeah, there's a bunch in Indiana right now. Oh. You're starting to find it. Where the hell is Mitt?

I see a hockey ball in the goddamn net. Yeah. Damn it, Mitt. Get up there. Oh. Nice little short little stroke. Wow. It's almost...

It's hurting the wrist. I don't know how you guys do that. You guys doing it? We're done with this. It hurts. I got a fucking TST in two weeks. Yeah, I got to be careful. Yeah, I can't be getting injured in this entire thing.

Ty has a question for you as we look at Sunday's big matchup as we try to make a run at this national championship again. Yeah, Pat, when we talked to you last year, I don't remember exactly what it was. It was like your quad, your hamstring. I don't remember what it was, but it was like your quad, your hamstring, your – I don't remember what it was, but it was pretty fucking gnarly, the injury you had. I remember you showed us your leg.

It was all black and blue, looked disgusting. Your brother had that big fucking shiner on his eye. Oh, yeah. And then we see the highlights. I mean, you're just getting fucking whacked out there constantly, nonstop. How's the bod feeling going into the most important time of the season? It's actually feeling pretty good. This is the healthiest season I think I've had in four and a half years of playing college lacrosse.

And our team is incredibly deep, and we had success in the ACC tournament this weekend, and we were able to play a lot of guys. We beat up on Virginia and Duke, and we played our reserve attackman for a large part of the fourth quarter of both games. So, yeah, our success and our depth has allowed me to be relatively healthy the entire season.

So, yeah, feeling pretty good. That's great news. And also, you became the all-time leading point scorer for Notre Dame. Hell, yeah. That's Cavanaugh lacrosse, baby. That's Cavanaugh lacrosse. That's why you need to get camp. You want to be the all-time leading scorer, a prestigious institution like Notre Dame in the history. Hell yeah. That's Cavanaugh lacrosse, baby. That's Cavanaugh lacrosse. That's why you need to get camp. You want to be the all-time leading scorer

at a prestigious institution like Notre Dame? Go to the Cavanaugh camp. Now, do they have that set up yet? Figure it out. Soon. Figure it out. Okay, COVID happened. Camps weren't necessarily easy.

Right, right. Okay, let's make sure we're as understanding as possible. Congrats on that. Hey, here we go. Boom. Here we go. Good camp. This is good camp. Hell yeah. That's what. Here we go. Good camp. This is good camp.

Matty, you can get involved. Tone's got a question for you. There's some rule of cross news here. Patty, baby. Everyone knows only one lost this year and it was in overtime to Georgetown. I'm looking at the bracket. There's a potential second round matchup with the Hoyas. You guys just chomping it. Now, let's not look

past the first round matchup, obviously. Albany or Sacred Heart, they got great fucking twine, dude. Are you guys chomping at the bit for some revenge in round two, potentially? I mean, haven't really thought about that much. I have.

Yeah, you should think about it. You're a fan. He's locked in right now. Smart. Dude, today. I didn't want to put bulletin board out there or anything like that, but as an ND, my family comes from ND, big ND lacrosse supporter. I've been thinking about it since that day.

That fateful night. Fucking bullshit loss. Ooh, tough. They got a good team. Georgetown's got a good squad. Not bad. Not bad. They're the A seed, so, you know, one plays eight eventually. Tough. They got a good team. Georgetown's got a good squad. Not bad. They're the ace seed, so one plays in eventually. Yeah.

They're a great team. We lost to them in February. I think we're a completely different team at this point in the years. I mean, if we do get to play them, that would be cool, but we're looking forward to Sunday, and we've got to win that game. Yeah, of course. Hell yeah. Very good.

That's why you won the Cavanaugh at camp. That's why you won. Yeah, they don't just teach across. They teach media. Life. Boom. Boom. They teach life, media, proper answers, everything like that.

So I think last year when he came on the first time, caused quite a stir whenever he said the Ivy League is a bunch of Muppets. Yeah. And that would be easy. Forbade him. I don't know if that was the exact phrase, but it was something in the – Frauds. Yeah. Frog that would be easy. Verbatim. I think that's what you – right? I don't know if that was the exact phrase, but it was something in the – Frauds. Yeah.

Frogs? Frauds. Frauds. Okay. Yeah, something in that. You said it. A lot of team names you're saying out here. Obviously, I haven't heard a lot of Ivy League schools,

except for the transfer from Brown that you guys got on your team. Which Ivy League school is the school this year, and are they able to play with everything going on? Yeah. They all play this year. Really? We played one Ivy League team this year, and are they able to play with everything going on? Yeah, they all play this year. Really? We played one Ivy League team this year, Cornell. It's the first time I've ever played an Ivy League team in my career, and they're an incredible team.

They're honestly one of the tougher games we had all year. They took us down to the wire, and we beat them by one with five seconds left. But they had a tough end of the season, and only one Ivy League ended up making the tournament. with five seconds left. But they had a tough end of the season, and only one Ivy League ended up making the tournament. But they're a great conference, and they got a bunch of great players. Yeah, only one of them made the tournament, but yeah, it's a great conference. ACC, good. We know that.

Ivy League's got a team. Big Ten, Michigan's got a team this year? Yeah, Michigan just won the Big Ten tournament, so they're in the NCAA tournament. They had to win the Big Ten tournament to make the NCAA tournament. It was the same situation last year, and they ran the table and did it two years in a row. So, yeah, they're on fire right now.

SEC? SEC as well? Who else? There's actually no SEC schools for lacrosse. West Point's got a squad this year. West Point? Okay, Military Academy? Obviously, Johnny Hopkins is always in the squad.

Denver? What are they? Pac-12? Pac-10? What is Denver? They're in the Big East. That makes sense. Big East lacrosse is good.

Big East still exists? How many teams are in? Denver. From the Big East? Denver and Georgetown made it from the Big East still exists? How many teams are in? From the Big East? Denver and Georgetown made it from the Big East. I'm just going to zoom out a little bit. If you scroll over to the Pacific a little bit, it is east of something. It was like the new conference, okay?

Like that they haven't called football now. Denver is east of California. It is big east of California. I understand. It's coming together. All right. Well, good luck, an attorney. We appreciate you joining us. Good luck with the Boston Cavanaugh Cann California. I understand. It's coming together. Good luck in the tournament. We appreciate you joining us. Good luck with the Boston Cavanaugh Cannons. That should be fun.

Appreciate it. Thank you guys for having me on. It was a blast. Same day as Mark Matthews. It didn't sound like it. He's focused on the tournament. What do we got the rest of the day? Are we doing school or we don't do that anymore? What happened?

No, I just finished off school yesterday, so I'm all done. Congratulations. Congrats, Brad. Did you graduate? Yep. Hell yeah. There you go. No, we got graduation next week.

It's on Notre Dame's campus, but hopefully we win the first round game Sunday and then we'll be on the road for the quarterfinals, so hopefully just graduating with our fifth year we'll be on the road for the quarterfinals. Hopefully just graduating with our fifth year in senior class on the road. Okay, we hope. We're pulling for you. So today you got a cold tub? You got a cold tub, hot tub? Or lifting? Or twining?

Not today. We had practice this morning and then got some treatment on the lower body after and then just been watching the show. We have a little chemistry building cookout this evening with the boys. No.

We'll probably watch the Albany Sacred Heart playing game to see who we're playing tonight. No cold ones for a while. A couple pops. Don't go away from what got you there. A couple pops. No cold ones. No, no. I have a couple pops. He said no cold ones. Don't go away from what got you there. There you go. Keep the main thing the main thing.

Well, I don't know. What did you guys do last year? For instance, Dan Hurley, head coach of UConn in the Big East, he wore his dragon underwear throughout the entire March Madness because the Dragons won the national championship last year for him. He did the same thing. Are you guys trying to repeat all the same shit national championship last year for him. He did the same thing. Are you guys trying to repeat all the same shit you did last year? I mean, yeah, we've kept it pretty similar. I think our culture is in a great spot.

These guys have no idea. It's too long. We returned three out of the four captains from last year. So, yeah, we've kept everything pretty similar. Who's playing the bagpipes these days? That's a good question. Yeah, this kid, Ross Bergmaster, he actually texted me before I went on asking for a shout-out.

So, thank you for that. Bergmaster's a dog. Yeah, Bergmaster gets on those fucking pipes and people know. People stop. Yeah, they know what's about to happen. He's about to run wild, bro. Look out. Four transfers.

Did you hear about that? Yeah, absolute studs. All of them. All of them. Big sons of bitches. Tommy Buckner coming into town. He didn't play at Rose Bowl. He was there.

Then he goes to fucking nuts. He played pregame. Yeah, he did. He played a little pregame. He's there next day. He played against South Florida. Yeah, you're damn right he did That was a big turning point for that entire season

That was a huge part of the Alabama season Turning point for him too And the whole thing Maybe lacrosse is my thing But he's a fucking god dog Weapon Alright, Patty we appreciate you pal We can't wait to watch you guys do it again

Alright, appreciate it Hopefully it works out We'll see in the next few weeks we'll be excited We appreciate you, pal. We can't wait to watch you guys do it again. All right. Appreciate it. Yeah. Hopefully it works out. We'll see you in the next few weeks. We'll be excited. And hopefully it all works out and come back on the show. Hell yeah. Oh, and then we get more Cavanaugh camps.

Yep. Boom. We got one in Plum coming, right? We got one in Columbus, it sounds like. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. No question. Get in the RV.

Load the boys up. Tour the country. That's right. Sweet. Cavanaugh camp after Cavanaugh camp. What? After Get in the RV. Load the boys up. Tour the country. That's right. Sweet. Kavanaugh camp after Kavanaugh camp. What? After Kavanaugh camp.

What? After Kavanaugh camp. What? After Kavanaugh camp. What? You can't have it be Kavanaugh's killer camp. No, you can't. No. No, you can't.

Especially after everything we've learned. You can do crazy. Can't. Unless you want to be turtle camp, if that's what people will know you for. Anyways, ladies and gentlemen, Patty Kavanaugh. Yay! Can't call that a killer camp. No, no.

Cannot. Gotta use other descriptors. Crazy. No, because you can still do that. With a K. Yeah. We were talking about a spelling camp with a K. Don't. Can't do that. Too many of're talking about a spelling camp with a k don't you can't do that well she won't do too many of them you do cool there's there's a certain amount of k's you can

kind of put next to each other yeah and then there's just one particular number of days yeah i just cannot be next to you unless you had a baseball game no game did you see what caboli did? Caboli got himself in a situation. In a situation. Well, they're trying to name a new, I think, a bat dog or something for the Pirates. Sure. You want to call him Bucko, but with K's in the middle. And instead of two K's, you need three K's for the strikeouts.

Caboli. Yeah. Mark. Mark. You see, you guys are talking about dog name right now. Caboli. Yeah. Mark. Mark. You guys are talking about dog name right now. Kaboli. That's bad. Can't just have those.

You can't hit that one button three times. Can't do it. There's a reason Texans stopped at KK. I fucked up. When you were texting. Is that Markaboli? Jeez. He deleted the tweet.

He said, it's not what I meant. Oh, my God. I mean, that wasn't the craziest baseball thing we saw or heard about. Thank you for reminding me. Oh no. Oh my God. The NHL had two overtime games last night. One of them being a double overtime game. Holy shit.

The NHL playoffs are alive. The NBA had a couple massive blowouts, but boy, we got two young teams really doing their thing. And we got stars that tomorrow. The NBA had a couple massive blowouts, but boy, we got two young teams really doing their thing. We got stars of tomorrow. The playoffs are fantastic. We got people dunking on Austin Rivers and NBA players as a whole for eight hours

in the mentions, full. You update, refresh, boom, there's another thousand. Update, refresh, boom, there's another thousand. It was a great sports night by all accounts. online, on TV, and everything like that. One thing was the greatest thing that happened. By far.

And it came from the MLB Network. Ladies and gentlemen, there was a prediction from the studio show on the MLB Network that came out to be the greatest of all time. Ladies and gentlemen, my favorite thing that happened in the sports world just yesterday. Don't take this the wrong way. Okay. But we are already a no-hitter alert. Yoshinobu Yamamoto, before he throws a single pitch tonight against the Marlins,

we have a no-hitter alert. Okay. Enjoy what could be a no-hitter alert. Enjoy what could be a no-hitter from Yamamoto. You know, Jas, when you first pitch. Right here on MLB Network for Harold. You see why I'm Greg. We have a no-hitter alert.

Enjoy this game live on MLB Network. Oh, boy. Marlins are ass. This guy's a stud This guy's gonna throw a no-hitter tonight Game is starting right now First pitch of the fucking game

Yup, gone Gone Home run First pitch When you talk about like a jinx or whatever That is maybe the most beautiful one I've seen Because baseball sucks That very rarely happens

So for a no-hitter to happen It's like yeah maybe Especially with how good this guy is Maybe it rides all the way in like the 8th inning Into and out And people are like Oh wow Is he going to get jinxed by what they called before the game

First fucking pitch Gone This thing's over Ty I didn't know we called no-hitters before games even started. I'm going to start doing that. No, you don't. Paul Skeen's throwing a no-hitter this weekend.

You can do that. But, I mean, that's why you don't do it right there. Because that does happen. Everyone knows that in baseball, you don't fucking ever mention a no-hitter. Especially anywhere around a pitcher. Because these guys are a little bit wacko, as is. Yamamoto, he's going to find this guy and he's going to cut his head off. Now, granted, they won 8-2 and he had a hell of a game.

He pitched eight innings. He looked great. But you just don't do shit like that. You just don't. On the MLB Network. Unbelievable. I didn't see a clip until this morning. As I was watching it this morning, I was like, this has got to be fake.

No way this is happening. I even asked. I paused the video and I said, so this guy was in the middle of a no-hitter? No, no. The game hasn't even started yet. Oh, I didn't know we did this. I didn't know this was on play. And then as the guy's walking up in my head, I'm like, oh, no way.

The reason why everybody's excited for me to watch this right now. Gone. Fucking dinger. That is beautiful. You know, because they say commentators jinx kickers all the time. Sure, of course. And shooters, you know, like foul line and everything like that.

That was on a scale that I don't think I've ever seen when it came to hilarity and just how quick it all happened. What a beautiful story out of the MLB. Once again, baseball proves that's not really the baseball that's the story. It's fucking everything else around it.

It's funny how things come full circle because Ty kind of called Yamamoto News before it happened as well, and similar results happened. So it's just funny how this world works. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. And you know what? The Yankees don't fucking need him, so who cares? You know?

I'm glad they fucking took him yard last night. That son of a bitch does not want to come to the Bronx. What did he do? He had like two hits. I think he gave up. Oh, yeah, he pitched great. The Marlins fucking suck. Yeah, we do.

They've given up already. Traded their best player and said, well, I guess the playoffs aren't going to happen for us this year. Coach was trying to quit after five games. They've played fucking 38 games. They've got another 130 left, and they're already selling off their best player. Well, being on playoffs just aren't going to happen for us this year, I don't think. That's normally the Pirates. Not this year, though. No. Not anymore. No. No schemes

in the hundo, boys. Is he playing for the Pirates? There was rumors he was coming up this weekend. We haven't heard anything. Oh, the best pitcher in baseball! Who's he played for? The Indianapolis Indians! What do you mean? They got a team now in Indiana? Yeah, well, it's AAA for the Pittsburgh Pirates.

Pittsburgh Pirates got 13-3. 3-13, I mean. Are they trying to save him? Are they trying to save his arm? Or what are we doing? No. No, they're just fucking it up. No, they're trying to save his arm.

You're right. For what, 20 years from now? When are they saving his arm? Like, is that? When he's on a different team? They're going to trade him anyway before he gets there, probably. This is their new box. No, they don't trade.

They just don't pay him How can I trade him? Are you going to pay him $500 million when he's due that? Who's your team? The Cincinnati Reds? Yeah, I'm the Reds. I saw Herbstreet put out a tweet about how the Reds are doing. I haven't seen a single baseball pitched or hit for the Reds, but I read one tweet

from Herbstreet. Yins fucking suck. You guys got nothing over there in Cincinnati. They have no energy. They have no passion, no pizzazz. They can't hit for shit. That team stinks is what I read from a Herbstreet tweet. Irish got more wins than the Reds do, so. Oh!

All the Reds have it. Pick it up when it matters. When it matters. All right, let's get the hell out of here on this glorious Wednesday. Educational program. Very much so. We could also be a giveaway program, too. Could be.

Pac-Man Jones, in your incredibly cool outfit right now. You look very cool. Hair looks cool, too. Clean. Got a cool song coming out on the 21st. Hell yeah. Why don't you be a cool guy and do maybe 10 people, 15, 20 people, $500. All you got to do is accomplish some sort of athletic feat out here in the Thunderdome,

and 20 people will win $500. what will it be pac-man jones i like i like this giving us some thought they do enjoy the uh amount of who is that preparation you give thought to what you want to do for the giveaway. That's Gumpy and Nick in the back. Because Gumpy's the one that tweets the clips. So he never knows if he should cut off the actual waiting time of the thinking because it is part of the process. Good process.

It is part of the process. Pops me every time. Or if he should just put it out there. You know, Gumpy is kind of confused. Let him go through his process, guys. That's what I'm saying. That's why I've been calling Gumpy this whole time. Gumpy.

Gumpy's like, well, then, everybody's not going to watch the video. Well, it's like it's a fucking giveaway. It's part of it. It's part of the deal. If they want to win, well, this is the part of the process. Sometimes you've got to watch greats do their thing to find out how greats become great. Pac-Man Jones, what do you want to do? Football.

Oh, shit. Okay. Boom. Did he drain the first one last time he did this? No, Pac. Yes, he did. Come on, Pac. All right, Adam.

Come on. You'll be throwing a football where? You tell me. Okay. With the jacket on? My home's out of takeout. I't buy that what do you uh you want to put in a hoop you want to put in a bin that is not a trash can no it's not why don't you we should do the bin yeah we'll do the bin 20 people 500 if you put it into duane johnson's bin over there

uh some people say it's trash can it is not it was supposed to be a bin. The final boss bin. The final boss's bin, of course. We used it for clipboard Jesus. That's what it is. It's meant for footballs to be thrown into. Yeah, the final boss is trying to help people win $500. Yeah, no more football than Dwayne Rock. He owns the league. Bingo.

Ladies and gentlemen, Pac-Man Jones will attempt to put it into the final boss's bin. If he does, $500 will be given to 20 people. All you have to do is repost this video, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay you. Pac-Man Jones, why don't we get a winner? Maybe 20 of them. Come on, Pac.

Sweet shoes. You look really good. Oh, yes. Money. Oh. Good throw. Perfect distance. I like that. Thanks. I'm going to pick up another ball, although you're not going to need it. You. Thanks, Duke. Good throw. Perfect distance. I like that.

Thanks, Duke. I'm going to pick up another ball, although you're not going to need it. You're going to need it. That was almost our speed championship ricochet. Ricochet, yeah. 20 people, $500. If he puts this ball into the final, boss has been. All right, right, left.

That was the one. Right down the middle now. All you got to do is split them. Ladies and gentlemen, if Pac-Man Jones is able to bury this football into the final boss's bin, 20 people will win $500. Yep. Off the bear. There's another one right there, Pat, to the left of your foot.

Hit the bear in the chest. Adam Pac-Man Jones, who has a song called All the Smoke coming out on the 21st of this month, can win 20 people $500. All he's got to do is put the ball in the bed. Hold on. All over. All he's got to do is put the ball in the bed. Hold on. All over. All over. Throw the Duke.

Great distance. Throw the Duke. You're an NFL guy. You're all pro. NFL pro. You know when that Duke hits your hands, you're going to feel at home. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who played 12 years in the NFL at the position of corner and then pivoted into being a rapper who has a song called all the smoke coming out on the 21st there's a there's a there's a little albama ball there damn it it's uh

got the doors up there you got the uh maybe throw baby lordo grade school uh oh he's throwing it from back there we smack those teeth out of your mouth and throw yeah the toilet seat Those are all completions yeah, bro in the ballpark Obviously, you know that right hold on that read the rest Wilson doors and out back and gentlemen, there is one final ball to be tossed, one that has never been caught by anybody, but it's certainly been hucked in a direction that they did not mean to throw it. The dorsal fin ball. Get in.

That was tricky. That must have not been calibrated. No, you got to aim right. It was calibrated. I think that was calibrated. It was a caliber. Steelers. That thing is terrible.

Yeah, when's the black and gold version coming out? Because I need ten of them. No, I thought he wasn't making a black and gold version coming out? Because I need ten of them. No, I thought he wasn't making a black and gold version there. He was just releasing a brick with the Steelers logo on it as the new football. Thank you, bro. You know, if you shave the corners of that brick. Exactly. And they painted laces on it.

May hollow it out. Might be easier to catch than that one. I would guess, yes. You know what I mean? Anything. Sanded down. Easier to catch than refrigerated than that one. Kid. Anything. Sanded down. Easier to catch in the refrigerator than that. Kidding me?

How did that get made? He's talking about a great toy. There wasn't a lot of good decisions in Denver. True. Great toy. That is an ass toy. It's a great toy. Nah, that is.

People opened that on Christmas and were fucking pissed. No, it wasn't. It wasn't. The kid opened it and was like, oh, I got a football. And then somebody has to play catch with. The other person had to play catch was so pissed. You know how many ER visits there were that day? What the fuck?

On a broken fingies. What is this? It's a dorsal fin. Yeah, it's a dorsal fin. Idiot. Russell Wilson trained with this. You know how he does it? It's what they say.

Did he really? He didn't train with it, did he? Yes Oh, yeah Part of his off-season program Smith's Toy Superstore Oh, there's the Seattle Colors, too? Yeah, eight-year-olds

That's AI There's no kid throwing Good catch That's not the same one That's not the same one That one's softer This is the knockoff of the Vortex The good one that you could throw a mile

No, this one has soft edge That one's good That one's different That This is the knockoff of the Vortex, the good one that you could throw a mile. No, this one has soft edge. That one's good. That one's different. That might be the next evolution of it. The first one might have been Russell's where they said you actually can't catch this because you're throwing plastic through the sky with actual knives on the back of it. That one looks awesome, actually.

The first one maybe wasn't the finished product. Good for them. Just like Russell Wilson as he takes Pittsburgh. It wasn't his finished product in Good for them. Just like Russell Wilson as he takes Pittsburgh. That's right. It wasn't his finished product in Denver. No, it wasn't. He's only getting better over there. And if he's not, Justin Fields is sitting right there.

Exactly. The whole position. Let's get the hell out of here. It's a graveyard, isn't it? Ball to balls. That was a damn shame. Ball to balls. Still got one more pack.

I mean, I don't know. We didn't hit one today. No, not one. I mean, the lacrosse basketball shot. It's close. Hit the net. I thought, you know, I thought I had it. Legit, I thought one was going in.

The W ball. That one was tracking. Well, D-Bot was being a fucking hater, too. I got a little better angle than you as far as the distance. From where we're throwing? It was online, but I saw that it wouldn't make it. Oh, he says, not enough juice. Just like Jamal Murray said with that towel.

Yeah, he knew. Not enough juice. Give me the fucking heating pad. I ain't going to do this thing again. Bush League. He was not suspended. He was fined $100,000, as we predicted yesterday, because Source told us that was going to be the case.

That particular Source came on the show today. What did he tell us? Anything? No. No. Not really. I thought they were going to be the case. That particular source came on the show today. What did he tell us? Anything? No. No. Not really. I thought they were going to change it. He might be suspended because they talked about it for two hours this morning.

Let's get to a break. We'll be back tomorrow. That is actually a good point. Thanks for the info, Coach. Game's not until tomorrow. There's still time. Coach, come on. You think LeBron should stop playing because it's kind of affecting his legacy now?

All right. We'll be back tomorrow. More sports media. More education. More information. More fuckery. We're lucky to do it. Be a friend.

Tell a friend something nice. It might change. Hey, great work today, Pac. Go right this way. Good luck. Go right to the back. We're in this thing together. Team on me.

Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye.