The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1128 - Kendrick Perkins, Mark Messier, Austin Rivers, Shams Charania, Jeff Passan, JJ Watt, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 13, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the incredible sports weekend including Pat going to Game 4 of Knicks/Pacers, all the different incredible playoff hockey games which certainly seems like we’ll get a few game 7’s, and the rest of the NBA playoff action and everything else they did over Mother’s Day weekend. They are also joined by an incredible and stacked group of guests including Kendrick Perkins and Mark Messier in the first hour, Austin Rivers and Shams Charania in the second hour, and Jeff Passan and JJ Watt in the third hour. Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people, and welcome to our Humble Abode, the Thunderdome, on this Super Monday, May 13th, 2024. This sports program starts now! Sports! Our wonderful, and sports had a massive weekend, obviously the NBA and the NHL are in playoffs, and there's drama and controversy written all over it. One that's going to be a big story, especially in that stupid city of New York. The Indiana Pacers are about to run shit for the rest of this particular series. Go back

and play in Madison Square Garden, and then they're back here in Indiana on Friday. I got a chance to have, you know, boots on the wood to watch the potential ass beating that became a fruition. The Pacers beat the Knicks by about 55 points. Now, tiny beaters, tiny brothers.

Yeah. And the refs try to get the Knicks back into it. They start calling things. They're down 25. This game's getting boring. What are we going to do? Didn't matter. Because T.J. McConnell, who is a certified dog, a man who during timeouts, okay, he's walking down in front of the crowd.

Are you not entertained? He's walking down all the way the length of the court. He's going bananas. Now, there is a story potentially that Jalen Brunson on a podcast when he was asked if he could beat anybody up in the NBA. He said somebody's name and he said T.J. McConnell. Yes, he did. And I happened to be very close to the game. Very lucky. Tyrese Halliburton invited my wife and I. Gave us tickets. Thank you, Ty. You're a dog.

Shout out. Only had 20 points. Whatever rested the entire second half. Obviously, got a long series ahead, especially as they make their push for a championship. But we got to sit next to his mom, his family, and he got to be you know, whenever you're sitting that close, it was it was fantastic. Nice Mother's Day. Great Mother's Day. Happy Mother's Day, Sam.

Happy Mother's Day to everybody. Hope you had a great time. But I got to hear the chatter, you know. First of all, those dudes are hitting down. There's a lot more contact than I think a lot of people are talking about whenever you judge the NBA defense. T.J. McConnell did ask a couple times, though. You beat me up, huh?

And then there's a little, he's from Pittsburgh. I think he's about six foot tall. Scrappy. There's no way anybody would say, yeah, NBA guy right there. That's an NBA guy. Nobody ever thought that. Nobody ever said that. He's a menace.

He's a pest. He's the gas for our team. Halliburton is a star, obviously. Need Halliburton to play. He's going to have to play if the Pacers want to go. TJ McConnell, as soon as he gets on the court, though, there is a heightened atmosphere. And he's, we're checking people. We're

okie-doking people. I mean, we're stealing. We're laying up. We're assisting. We're ooping. We're dunking. We're going bananas. I mean, it was a scene yesterday in Indiana. And I know the Madison Square Garden, I'm back. It's going to be absurd, but from what I've heard, you know, these Pacers

would like to get a win in Madison Square Garden, the place that they have so much respect for, and then come back home on Friday and go ahead and end this series. And the New York Knicks are a phenomenal basketball team. Jalen Brunson's fun to watch. I mean, he is fun to watch.

He was just in control, seemingly. And his shot is so pure. And sweet. Sweet celebration. And DiVincenzo, Paizan, got a chance to chat with him. He's a problem. He is. If you stop those two, it feels like you're in a good spot

because they don't really have any depth at all because of injuries. And as it goes on, it feels like the Pacers have a little bit more depth because there was guys playing that i've never heard of before or the pacers these guys are standing right in front of me i've never seen that human in my entire life they're like well actually he's by the average is like seven eight points a game or whatever it's like the pacers have a lot of that so i think there's a chance that the knicks who are a fantastic team might be gassed out a little bit could Could be. Feels that way. And I want to let you know the Pacers, they were able to rest for two quarters pretty much yesterday. And the battle

is to the medal. And the Pacers are all the way back. Who are they going to be staring down? Well, probably Celtics who had a big weekend. Got a big time win. Cavs in Cleveland. They play again this evening. But the playoffs have been remarkable. In the NHL, there's some drama. The clock's table is here. at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt.

A nine-year NFL vet, big-brained human being, massive Florida Panther fan. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butler is here. D-Butch, obviously the Panthers have taken a strong lead over the Boston Bruins in this particular series. Why do you think that's the case? And how does it feel being a lifelong Panthers fan like you are to get to reap the rewards of this team that is a bunch of dogs? A bunch of dogs. Scrappy.

We've been dogs all year long. This is nothing new. You know, I know we're up 3-1. Probably could have been a sweep, honestly. I know we got our ass beat that first game, but I feel like, you know, the goals, the score wasn't quite indicative of the game. You can look at it every game. We were putting way more shots.

You're looking at the score like, damn, is Swayman sucking tonight? No, he's got to save 50 goals. Give me a shot at him. 50 shots being shot at him. 50 goals, huh? Okay. 50 shots at him. I know you're pissed off.

No, keep going. I'll let you finish. I've seen that steam coming out your ear all morning long, but this is what we've been doing. And we'll have a gentleman's sweep. We'll have a closeout game down at Sunrise. Bennett, a lot of people crying, bitching and moaning about this goal. You know, it's 50-50.

It's just playoff hockey. A little shove in the back. I thought it was NHL hockey. This is what we do. But Bennett, the menace, has been roughing a lot of feathers up there in Boston. I've been enjoying this series, enjoying this game. Congrats to the Panthers. In the airport.

Love to see it. Congrats to the Panthers. And obviously, D-Bot, lifelong fan of the hockey. Lifelong. Lifelong fan of the hockey. He's been to games with his family. I want to say lifelong. We've only been around since 93.

Haven't won a Stanley Cup yet. Okay. Been the one. Maybe we get over the hump this year. We've got some new Bruins fans in here, too. But shout-out to Connor. We've been going back and forth. But we've got some other ones. You were talking about about playoff hockey and you brought up that name bennett boy he's been a topic of conversation takes out the captain yeah with a

hang a rabbit punch with a stick yeah and then all of a sudden he's part of a cross check goal in the middle of it bennett is seemingly turned to tide completely this is an angle of a play that happened in uh game three that we didn't see until two days later whenever there was no punishment or anything. Clear punch to the head of Marchand with the stick. Does he get him with the butt of the stick? Who knows? That is just right to the jaw.

Marchand, captain of Boston. A man who is certainly a pest in his own right and loves to play physical brand of hockey. Gets punched right in the mouth with a stick. We don't see this angle for two days. I believe it was found in a virtual reality filming set. If I listen to the person that found it right, they were doing a voiceover for a virtual reality thing. Saw that angle.

We're like, wait a second. We should be seeing this angle. This is a real shot of this. Then he's involved in a cross check that isn't called a cross check into a goal that obviously ties it up. Then they go on to win. It's like, what's going on right now in this particular series? Florida Panthers fans are loving it. This is playoff hockey. We're a grimy group. You won't play hockey or not. And Bruins fans are saying, well, they're not letting us. Patty Maroon isn't allowed to do anything. They're not calling anything their way if that was

against the Bruins. Marchand suspended for three games, probably. You guys feel like you're getting the short end of the stick here. The Bruins got to figure it out. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I think the best part about playoff hockey is the stuff that they're not letting the Bruins do, but letting the Panthers do, which is interesting. I mean, the big rig goes in, gives Kachuk a little how you doing. They gave him

a penalty immediately. That's interesting. This is Jim Montgomery-Monte right after the Bennett goal just asking, like, what's going on here? Because something is happening. I think he might have had some other words as well. But, I mean, as far as Sam Bennett goes, and, you know what, D-Blood, since you chimed in, I'll go to you first, actually.

You know, my family has been in Massachusetts for over 100 years, brother. Okay? So when we talk about bloodlines, mine goes back to before the Bruins were even a team. Okay? So I get that you just learned what C on a hockey jersey means last year. Yeah, last year you learned that. You learned what the A meant. You learned what the C meant.

It's awesome to have bandwagon fans talk shit to you because nothing gets me fired up more. But when we're talking about fandom, just shut the hell up. Okay? For one. For two, Sam Bennett. Sam Bennett, I bet he's got a foundation and a charity. He's a piece of shit human being.

Bottom line, okay? I don't care about what he does off the ice because all I see is what he does on the ice, and he's a piece of shit. And then Biz asks him after the game, you know, basically tries to bail him out. Sam Bennett has his explanation because Biz asks him after the game, you know, basically tries to bail him out. Sam Bennett has his explanation because Biz asked him. Biz has to circle back, hey, what you meant was, and explain it in a way that doesn't make him seem like a piece of shit. He is, and unfortunately, that is hockey.

You need those guys on the team. As a Bruins fan, you've seen Marshan do that for years. I would love for Sam Bennett to be a Boston Bruin because the way he plays playoff hockey is how it's supposed to be played but for some reason the NHL is only letting one team play that way and they're not letting the Bruins play that way now Marchand

not playing down 3-1 the only way to make up for what happened last year when we raised this pasta jersey in memory of the best regular season in the history of the NHL after losing to the Panthers 4-3. Who? The Florida

Panthers. If there are hockey gods, if there are hockey gods, if there is an inkling that the Boston Bruins are a Stanley Cup champion team, they would come back from down 3-1 with a heroic return from Brad Marchand and they would win 4-3 and then the rest would be history,

and Swayman would continue to stand on his head. We'll see what happens. Obviously, we saw the Sam Bennett play. He's a piece of shit. Brad Marchand is not playing. Who knows if he'll be playing tomorrow night. I don't know why this guy's still playing. They definitely had this angle immediately after the game.

I like the cool little virtual excuse. That's what I heard. I think I heard old Buddy explaining it on TV. Yeah, no, I bet he said that. The analyst was the one, I think, that found this clip and was like, wait a minute. I think it was from my understanding of what he said. For sure. No, no, no. I know, and I didn't even

hear that, but I mean, that's a camera on the ice. That's not a virtual reality thing, so clearly the NHL has had this for two days, but again, that is just kind of the situation. If it was a virtual reality thing, wouldn't it be kind of on the ice because that's where they're working all the virtual reality stuff? Yeah, but it is right in the middle of the ice there. It seems like it could be a –

Definitely a hard camp, yeah. But again, that is just the situation that the NHL has decided to give to themselves. I don't know if the NHL is saying what I'm saying. This is just a person that was talking to me. That you were listening to. Yeah, literally the clip that I saw. I have no idea how that clip wasn't seen for 48 hours yeah well it is like the clearest thing about oh what's that that's the thing it was seen 48 hours ago but the nhl doesn't want

to have two full days of us debating about whether or not sam bennett who's a piece of shit should get suspended or not now i mean i guess that's great strategy almost uh circa friday news dump if you will but at at the same time whether you see it two days later whether you see it immediately after the game it's pretty clear like there's no question about it uh it sucks as a fan of a team to feel like you're kind of getting screwed over and over and this continues to go on and on and on and on but again just being a bruins fan being from Boston, it's always been Boston versus everybody.

So we'll see what happens. I think we got the horses in the stable to go on and do it. But, you know, we'll see. Hopefully Marchand can be back next game. I believe the overall records for teams in the NHL in the playoffs without their captain is 0-200,000. So I'm not sure how it will end up going. Well, the Boston Bruins, yeah, it's bad. I think it's 25 straight losses or something, 3-1.

Oh, yeah, for the series. Now, I'm just saying overarching in the NHL, if you don't have your captain playing on your team in the playoffs, you're screwed. But, yeah, the Bruins. The Bruins even more. I mean, there's more stats are just coming out against the Bruins. Yeah, down 3-1.

They are 0-25 all time in a series. I believe, were the Panthers the fourth team to come back? I mean, I don't think down 3-1 is a very good spot to be in, no matter what, let alone the Bruins. Oh, yeah, just stats are just saying a lot of bad things. But what are stats anyways? Those are things that happened in the past. They won't change the future, but they can certainly shape it, can't they?

Oh, absolutely. Vancouver Coovers are up 2-1 in the series over the Oilers. What's going on in that one, Gumpy? I hear a lot of complaining by a lot of people. King Slovis stood on his head last night. Oilers were all over him. Dry Subtle and McJesus are playing. It feels like every other shift right now.

Love that. And then McJesus actually got taken out at the end of the game last night, and no one on his team did a damn thing. That was the conversation. Kind of remind me of Crosby with the Penguins. Oh! Coovers. Yeah, he. Oh, no! Yeah. Coovers.

Yeah, he got bopped pretty good. Like, if you're not out there, if you're not on that Oilers team, protecting McDavid after that. McDavid did slash the guy before that that started it all. Nobody's really showing that part, but either way, that will be a suspension coming. Okay, so McJesus knew there was something coming if you slashed the shit out of somebody and then eyeball him, even if you're the most talented player on the ice, no matter where you are. You know there's a chance coming. Okay, so McJesus knew there was something coming if you slashed the shit out of somebody and then eyeball

him, even if you're the most talented player on the ice no matter where you are. You know there's a chance coming. I mean, that's a I mean, that's a low break. That's a trying to break his spine. That's the difference between hockey and these other sports.

That's the guy on the ice. Both teams there. And you're like, is that right, huh? Stick to the mouth and then one to your spine too. Same exact time. They'll home to you quick. Even in 2024, which is why we enjoy the shit out of hockey, but also that's wild

that McJeez is just going to skate up. Go ahead. We're going to play the next game. Let's go ahead and just keep it moving. He's going to move 30 miles an hour on the ice somehow after taking these shots, and we'll find out after the series or whenever they're done in the end. Yeah, he actually did suffer a broken jaw. Now, you remember when he got the stick right to his mouth?

T1, T2 as well. Broke his jaw. Yeah, his neck, actually. And he's got a sprained spine. That's hockey. Now, let's get to the NBA. Joining us now is an absolute legend, a man who was in our Thunderdome one glorious time. And hopefully in the future, it'll happen more often.

Ladies and gentlemen, champion Kendrick Perkins. Yeah, Perkins! Pat, what's going on? I saw you last week say that you could name five people in the NBA that could go to the NFL. So you Austin Rivers was right saying 30 people could. Is that what I heard out of you, Perkins? Is that what I heard? Pat, look Perk? Is that what I heard? Pat, Pat,

look, look, big bro, this is what I got a problem with. Why y'all starting shit? That wasn't me. I didn't want to get into this conversation. I didn't want to have

to do this. I mean, damn. It wasn't me. It wasn't me. It was Austin Rivers. Austin Rivers goes, before I get out, Austin Rivers will be

joining us in the next hour, by the way. He's at him. His mentions have been, Perk, Austin Rivers' mentions have been pretty toxic. I'm excited to catch up with him. But he's the one that brought it up, caused great fodder.

I think what we all realized, there's great athletes out here. There's great athletes out here. And none of us are as tough as the hockey players, but I enjoyed the fodder. Let's talk about the NBA playoffs, shall we, Perk? I was at the game. I was at the game when the Pacers just curb stomped the New York Knicks. There's a chance that these New York Knicks are gassed, you think?

Yeah, they gave me a microphone. Always a good time. Swore. Then they cut to a kid. I mean, it's a whole situation. Whole scene. Hopefully they will not give me a mic again. But it was hard not to get excited in there because what this Pacers team was just, they were pummeling this Knicks team, just pummeling them. From the beginning, they were up like 25,

and then they carried a 35, 40-point lead through its entirety. Is getting back to Madison Square Garden going to do it for the Knicks, or are they potentially done here because of exhaustion, Perk? I have this series going seven games. I will give a lot of credit i will give a lot of credit to the indiana paces uh to tyler uh to tyrese halliburton he he stepped his game up uh the tj has been phenomenal rick carlisle is coaching his ass off right now okay i will say that but this series is going seven look the new york knicks went down

there to get game three they knew they didn't have a snowball chance in hell to get game four especially with with a limited bench and then coming in on the afternoon game when you have a team that's deep like the indiana pacers the youth kicked in. The athleticism kicked in. But it's going to be rocking in Madison Square Garden tomorrow night. Matter of fact, I think I'm going down there. You know what I mean? Okay. Yeah, I got an invite to go sit courtside with my guy Tracy Morgan.

I might be sitting next to Ben Stiller. You know what I'm saying? They said they're putting Big Perk on the celebrity, bro. Whoa! Damn it. Yeah, damn it. sitting next to Ben Stiller. You know what I'm saying? They said they're putting Big Perk on the celebrity, bro. Whoa! Bro! Damn it. Yeah, damn it. I feel like Big Body Bronson got to give me what I'm looking for,

and I feel like he will. He was cool to watch. Just, like, always seemingly in control, real casual, locked in. Like, right before the ball tipped off, there was, like, this moment of, like, deep breath from him as he was staring literally two feet away from me. And it was like watching him like flip the switch. It was like, all right, here we go. And obviously the Pacers controlled it, but DiVincenzo can get going as well. I mean, that great fade. Hey, he's got one of the best Caucasian fades. No doubt. I have seen. It's

really nice. It is really nice. So you think it's going to seven. So that means in Madison Square Garden, you got the Knicks then whenever the Pacers come back home. Pacers, or do you think they steal one from each other? No, I think it's – I think Knicks winning Madison Square Garden, I think the Pacers winning the field house, and then it's going to a seven-game series. I think it's going to game seven.

Hey, you're going to have those puppies on the wood tonight, aren't you? Aren't you? You're going to have the – you're on the – Hey, you better be taking pictures, Perk. I think it's game seven. who doesn't know a lot about basketball. I said, it feels like Malone and Joker and Murray and the boys will figure out this Timberwolves team, and then they're going to be okay. Then Timberwolves came in and beat their ass again. It was like, wait a minute. This might be a whole different conversation. Now it's 2-2. Have Joker, Malone, and the boys figured out the Wolves, or what do you think the rest of this series looks like?

Well, I think they just tapped into their greatness, right? When we talk about the best star in five in basketball that is the denver nuggets when we talk about the best player in basketball that is nicola yokich now when you talk about the best defense in basketball that's the minnesota timberwolves before this series started i picked the timberwolves to win in seven i believe in anthony l was that much i believe in Anthony Edwards that much. I feel like he has an old soul. I feel like he's been here before.

And I feel like Carl Anthony Towns is going to be the key to this series. When Carl Anthony Towns, the X Factor. When he's balling, the Timberwolves are damn near unbeatable. One could say they could win the NBA championship. When he's not balling and he's struggling, we see

what happens. But I must say, this is what we've been looking for. This is what we've been looking for. The defending champs going on the road. They down. Michael Malone got a short film of the media calling them out or saying that they'll cook the two-minute

inning. And all of a sudden, they turn it up a notch. Jamal Murray, he started playing with a different level of energy. Jokic, he started being better defensively. Aaron Gordon, Aaron Gordon, the X-Factor in game four, 100% from the three-point line, 27 points, seven assists, six rebounds. Dominated, dominated in great fashion. So I think the Minnesotanesota timberwolves are going to respond in game six i don't see them winning game five but this is another series that's going

seven games okay that's great news for the nba as a whole if that was to take place two seven game series in one round he's obviously beautiful for ratings for sports fans and for everything you talk about the timberwolves defense how about the defensive player of the year d-butt's got a question for you yeah defensive player yeah i saw saw one of the tweets you shout out and obviously we saw the game uh rudy missed when he had when he had his child kyle anderson started it did great beat the shit out of the nuggets what do you think the adjustments be going forward with rudy gobert on that defensive end and would you adjust and take him out against Lemon, his minutes in the

series? I mean, damn. I mean, he is the four-time defensive player of the year. He's the only player that on a consistent basis, and I said this last night, that is the defensive player of the year in the regular season and becomes a defensive

liability in the post season. Now look, I'm not asking him to go out there and shut Jokic down. No one can shut him down. He's the best player in the world. But it's a certain thing of actually trying to slow him down. How can you do that if you're a post defender? The one thing I can teach you because I was, you know, praised by the late great Kobe Bryant as being one of the best post defenders.

Or the best post defender when we were playing. Kobe said it out of his mouth. Talk your shit, Perk. Talk your shit, Perk. I'm just saying, you got to fucking fight, man. And it got to be contact. It got to be denials. It got to be the physicality.

I'm going to take the hit. One hand on the back. I'm'm gonna take the hit one hand on the back I'm gonna take the hit with my chest A hard contest a couple times I need a block Yoke and shot talking noise The tenacity needs to be there Like you gotta want to stop Somebody right now

To me I feel like If Rudy go into this matchup Of being the instigator and not the retaliator, he will have more success against Jokic. Right now, he's going and saying, I'm trying to play without fouling. Like, ruffle some feathers. Ruffle some feathers. Like, pick it to the point where you make Jokic get out of character. He want to punch you, right?

You're being net petty. Like, this is the playoffs. There's no friends. Felt like TJ McConnell played like that yesterday. He's like, oh, this guy's trying to get people to fight him. Yeah, he did. Yeah, he's trying to get people to fight him right now, which I love. And I think he would enjoy if there was to be a scrap.

Pittsburgh guy, respect. But whenever you talk about Joker and, like, getting after him, it feels like he's always like this. I know he's seen his brothers beat the hell out of some people. And we did see that big shot to the back. I guess he does showcase some emotion every once in a while. And you're asking for Rudy to potentially tap in and try to find it.

Well, what I'm saying is, look, Jokic is the best for his being even kill. But he's a killer. He's even kill, but he's a killer, right? He want to take your head off when y'all get between those lines. My whole thing is if you're watching the film and you're watching the tape, Nas Reed does a better job of actually battling Jokic than Rudy does,

and that's a problem that I have. I mean, the adjustment at times is to even try to put rudy on aaron gordon so he could be the help side defender when yokish does catch it in the paint that didn't work so at the end of the day it's almost to the point where if rudy doesn't elevate his game what's the point of having them out there it's not like he's going to be an offensive threat on the offensive side of things he's not finishing well at the basket he's missing his free throws right now game two when he didn't play they put on a defensive clinic and i know it's hard to sit a defensive player to your ask him to come off the bench because you never know how he's going to take it or you may lose him for the rest of the

series or even the playoffs but damn it it, you're in the trenches. And I feel like whoever wins this series, which I did pick Minnesota to win this series. Oh, no, Burke. Is going to win the NBA championship. I feel like this is the NBA finals right here. Whoever wins this series is going to win the NBA championship. I solely believe that.

Okay, well, let's talk about the team that is favored at ESPN Bet to win the NBA championship, the Celtics. Connor, you know, they were almost dead, Connor, the other day. You lose in the garden to the Cavs, but all of a sudden we're back. Yeah, the Celtics just don't like playing game two, which I can respect. But, Perk, when you're looking at Boston, and I understand what you said, and I respectfully completely disagree because the Boston Celtics obviously are the best team in the NBA.

But with that being said, do you believe that because of the fact that Porzingis is hurt, that that just kind of changes the dynamic of who the Boston Celtics are? And do you think that there's a chance that the fodder around Tatum is the way that it is because there are so many guys on the Celtics that need to get involved in the game that he's not doing what Ant is doing and all those other things because they have so many other contributors on the offensive side of the ball? No, no.

Conor, look. In my soul, I would love, right, in my heart, for the Celtics to hang banner 18, right? I don't believe you. I don't believe you. But let's be real here, okay? During the week of conference, the East is whack, okay? Let's make no mistake about it.

Is that the Celtics' fault? Pacers aren't whack. Is that the Celtics' fault? Pacers aren't whack. I'm just saying, but hear me out. My thing is, when you come into the playoffs, and this is why I'm so hard on Jason Tatum and the Boston Celtics, because all year long I've been hearing that they don't care about MVPs,

they don't care about the accolades. The only thing that matters is the moment that they're in right now. Okay, if this moment matters and you know that you're a heavy favorite going against the Miami Heat or the Cleveland Cavaliers, damn it, pull the brooms out. Make statements. Show the world. Do what Minnesota did to Phoenix.

Okay, Phoenix, y'all disgruntled. Y'all don't want to be here. We done took y'all soul after game two. We're going to finish y'all off. That's what I expect out of the Boston Celtics. Send a statement. Get some rest. Jason Tatum, we know that this is your moment. You've said it

plenty, plenty time and time again. You said, I can't wait to the playoffs. I feel like I'm going to be the best player on the floor. Damn it. Do it, man. Do it. It shouldn't take where a guy like myself is calling you out and saying hey tatum we want more we yeah we screaming tyrese maxson we screaming jay lebron we screaming anthony elwes can we scream your name and what are you doing game three

we're not there and dominated in great fashion, in great fashion all across the board, and they won in great fashion. That's all I'm asking. That's all we want. That's all we want. We want Tatum to be a guy that's being talked about as the next face of the league. Yeah, but he does what you want, and then now you're saying, you know, there's no way in hell they win the NBA championship.

I just don't understand what you mean. I didn't say it was no way in hell, Connor, just because I didn't pick them they win the NBA championship. I just don't understand what you mean. I didn't say it was no way in hell, Connor, just because I didn't pick them to win the NBA championship. I didn't say they was going to get swept or they was going to lose it at five. I think if they match up with the Timberwolves or the Nuggets, there will be a seven-game series. I just feel like I would have more faith in a Jokic than I would in a Jokic and Murray than I would in a Tatum and Brown.

I actually have more faith in Anthony Edwards. Oh, Anthony, that. That's acid eye. Anthony Edwards and Carl Anthony Tons and Rudy Gobert. I'm just saying,

Ant-Man is the inspiration to everybody. If he say something, I believe him. I trust him with all of me. Has it always been that way or this is the year? This is when we've decided that if Ant-Man's saying it, we all believe it. Is now the time or has it been like this? It hasn't been like this.

I knew he had the potential of actually being the face of the league and in the conversation but what he did to phoenix right okay what he did to his goat and kevin durant what he did to two guys that play his position and bradley bill and devin booker and then to follow up and say you know what oh we're going against jokic and the champs we're gonna come out swinging we're gonna punch him in the mouth we're gonna hit him with an upperc, we're going against Jokic and the champs. We're going to come out swinging. We're going to punch them in the mouth. We're going to hit them with an uppercut. We're going to jab them in the first game, take game one, and then we're going to come with a body

to an uppercut. We're going to drop them. Now, they still got opportunity to fight back because we ain't knocked them out yet. It's the first of four. But now it's the even series, and guess what? Anthony Elwood said, I enjoy this. I love competition. I'm looking forward

to game five. Hey, guess what too, Perk? If they don't win this series, no one gives a shit about what he did against the Suns. Just so we're on the same page. Just so we're on the same page. I am juiced up, Perk. I'm revved up, brother. Revved up.

Darius has a Florida Panthers jersey on, which is a hockey team, Perk. That is a hockey team in the NHL playoffs right now that's beating the Bruins ass. So he's all pissed off at D-Butt. I mean, like, real heat in here. And then you go, anybody that wins the Nuggets and the Timberwolves, they're guaranteed to win the championship. And then they put the odds up, Celtics with the odds. Minus 135 to win the title.

You got it worked up, Perk. Hey, that's good heat. That's good heat. There's a couple other teams' fan bases that I assume are listening to this conversation going, what the hell's going on here? Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Perk, the other series that seemingly no one is talking about really and have kind of just thrown away, OKC and Dallas.

I think we've kind of seen Oklahoma City maybe mature and grow up a little bit. Obviously, SGA has been unbelievable. And even though Dallas' defense is kind of hammered dog shit, they've looked pretty good so far. How do you see the rest of that series going? Is it one of those things where if Luka has an unbelievable game and Kyrie kind of does what he does like is there any way that okc can can kind of combat that and win that series and

you give either one of those teams any shot at beating either minnesota or uh denver look i think dallas is going to win this series. I picked them to win this series. I also think that Kyrie Irving has been the best player in this series on both ends of the floor. His championship leadership has been outstanding and a beautiful thing to watch, right? P.J. Washington, we're watching a guy, a 3 and D guy, embrace the damn moment right come from a a a trash organization and no disrespect to the charlotte hornets but that's

what they've been over the last few years to coming in and embracing that opportunity and doing it in great fashion we're watching daniel gafford embrace the road from coming from playing with the washington wizards to having new life being one of the best live threat and rim protect guys in the league so at the end of the day look lucas still haven't played a luca donchess type game yet we like and he's still still going out there and get a 30 ball on you so and he's putting Fort Delphi. And I get he's banged up. But this right here, this man right here, he's been dangerous. And look, they're going to go to the Western Conference Finals.

I believe that. And I think if they match up with the Nuggets or the Timberwolves, which I think is going to be the Timberwolves, either one of those teams is going to be another seven-game series. Do not underestimate Jason Kidd. I'm telling you. So we got two seven-game series happening right now. East is going to be seven-game series.

Celtics will win in five. No, seven. But Pacers-Knicks will go seven. Yeah, same with when the Pacers take on Celtics. Okay, we'll see. That's going to be seven games. I mean, slow down. And guess what? Guess what?

Which way that's heading? What's that, brother? The Hicks are moving on to the finals. Okay, that's how that whole thing's going. But it sounds like you feel like we got the teams right now. These teams are all, we got the team. Seven-game series, seven-game series, seven-game series. You feel like the rest of these playoffs,

we got the right teams in here right now. Yeah, we got the right teams. And out with the old, in with the new. Like, thank you. We're finally coming to a place where we're moving on from LeBron James. We're moving on from Kevin Durant. We're moving on from Steph Curry. Now we can embrace the new.

Now we can sit and watch Luka. We can sit and watch SGA. We can watch Tatum. We can watch Anthony Edwards. Tyrese Halliburton. We have to remind ourselves. Tyrese Halliburton, right. Tyrese Halliburton, my apologies.

Also, John Miranda's going to be back next year. Get these old ass, you know, out of here man is in with the news. Why were you – hold that. I don't think I – Guys. I was going to say MFs, but I didn't want to, you know, keep the streak going on.

But you already – I mean, you already got two. You actually snuck two in. He did. Like, real quick, you might have snuck one past the goalie. Yep. To be honest. Hey, Perk, great chat with you, man. You're continuing to crush it.

We appreciate you on our televisions and for joining us. I appreciate y'all. And, Connor, look, appreciate y'all, my brothers. But, Connor, fix your damn body language, man. We still cool. This is the problem that I have with the Celtic fan base. Take your emotions out of it. Okay.

And, Perk, and I am. And we're the favorites to win the title. So yes, when someone says that we're not going to win as the favorites with my emotions out of it, it sounds a little stupid. You sound like a hater, Perk. That's what you say. But everybody's a hater. Remember the Boston folks.

They got those chips on their shoulders. Always have. That's why it's a revolution region. Ladies and gentlemen, Kendrick Perkins. Thank you, pal. That's a good point. Yeah, you Amen. Ladies and gentlemen, Kendrick Perkins. Thank you, pal. Yeah, Perkins. That's a good point. Yeah, you're welcome for the country, by the way. Okay.

All right. Well, there's people that I've been seeing them walk out of graduation. Whoa, whoa, whoa. They are not happy with what you guys are doing. No, no, no. Old one. They're not happy with the way. You were with us, too. Pittsburgh, they're involved.

Yeah. You're damn right. Damn right. Yeah. Don't even tell the story about the Irish. Amen. They showed up. Here's a gun. Yeah, they're involved. You're damn right. Don't even tell the story about the Irish. Here's a gun. Go south. Good luck. Need to win. You win, you come back. You win, you're in. You win, you're gone.

That's a beautiful thing. I love talking to Perk. Sounds like the NBA's in a good spot. We're watching the NHL. The NHL's in a great spot. Feels like sports are in a great spot. You want to know something else that is amazing? Officially announced Thursday, September 5th, Ravens-Chiefs kick off the NFL season. 115 days. Boom.

115 days. Boom. It was announced officially this morning via Adam Schefter's Twitter account. NFL's Thursday, September 5th, 2024 regular season opener is now set. Ravens at Chiefs. Lamar Jackson and the boys head to Kansas City on banner night. Another one. And Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, who was at Paris, is Taylor Swift.

Yes, he looked cool. Yeah, karma is a guy on the Chiefs from right back home to me. He's dancing out there. Go, Gary. Have a good time. I mean, I assume he's incredibly uncomfortable Being in this particular moment I assume there's a situation where he's heading somewhere Because he was in a suite And he hasn't had one moment

This is probably a moment in between moments Hey, I'm in a great draft So high school, probably a cool moment Whenever he's listening to her Sing about their relationship Shout out his friends, his dad Him, everything they do. And she says they're smoky and laughing because of jokes.

Remember, that's what she says in that song. So we get Travis back down to earth, you know, and over to training camp in time. Feels like that Chiefs team is ready to do something that no other NFL team has ever done before, and that's win three straight Lombardis. It starts with the Ravens on opening night. I think, A, electrifying game. Cannot

wait to talk shit about it for the next 115 days until it kicks off, but also a great little test for both these teams to see where they're at early, D-Bud. Cannot wait. Obviously, the Ravens, this is where their season ended against this team. Reigning MVP with Lamar Jackson, and Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes to start the season off.

Doesn't get any better than that. I can't wait to see this one. Yeah, I'm pumped about it. Yes. You know, will Rasheed Rice make it? No. Get out of Dallas. Probably not.

He will not be playing that game. Oh, yeah, definitely. For sure not. Yeah. Will he still be in society? I hope. You know? I want him to be.

A free man. We would all like him to be a free man. Hey, Rasheed, get your ass to Kansas City. You think he's there yet? You think he's heeded that advice? Just get a house. I hope. Walk the doors.

You're in Kansas. Congratulations. You are now under arrest in Kansas City, Missouri. Yep. You'll play football. You go home to your big-ass house. Then you go play football again. Then you go home to your big-ass house.

Then you go play football again. Let's save a career. big-ass house, and then you go play football again. Let's save a career, let's save a life. Come on, Rasheed. Yeah, come on, Rasheed. 12 years. 10, 12 years. Everything you want to do right now, 10, 12 years from now will be great. It'll all be even better. You'll be great. Speaking of being great, how about the Copton? Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program,

cover of NHL for ESPN, a man who's won six Stanley Cups. Ladies and gentlemen, the Moose, Mark Messier. Yeah, Moose! Good to see you, everybody. Great to be on with you.

Hey, I love the hoodie, dude. I would have one, too, you know, if I could. I work for PK because if he keeps working real hard and he makes a comeback, he might be able to get one of these one day. Okay. I appreciate that.

I saw you guys chasing him around the studio with that, and he said he might come back as a strength coach, and you never know if he ends up winning one or whatever. He wouldn't touch a Stanley Cup. I go, PK, you're not a player anymore. It's okay. The superstitions are over, buddy. Go ahead and touch a cup and enjoy it now that you're retired. But he wouldn't do it, so I was trying to force him to.

If it means anything, my friend who played ball hockey is a world champion ball hockey player. Never played the NHL. I don't even know if he can skate. When the Stanley Cup came to the Thunderdome, he wouldn't touch it. Just because old school hockey lore, I guess, is you don't deserve to touch it unless you want it? I like to think that if you're not a player and you don't play in the NHL and you touch it, it's going to bring you good luck

there. So all the fans that have had the opportunity to touch it over the years that I experienced some partying with it, perhaps they're going to get good luck. I'll tell you what, I've chucked beers out of that thing a few times. That's right. I feel like we've gotten very lucky. Yeah, Mickey Skates touched the damn cup the next time it comes in here. I've chucked beers out of that thing a few times. That's right. I feel like we've gotten very lucky. Yeah. Mickey Skates touched the damn cup the next time it comes in here.

Make out with that thing. Suck face with that thing. What? That's what you need to do. I wanted to lift it. They wouldn't let me. Okay. I touched it last year in Vegas. Went on to win, so.

You tell me. Yeah. Let's talk about these playoffs. The conversation about, like, hey, old-style hockey's happening again. You know? We got fights. We got toughness. Obviously, the Bennett situation is one that's going to get very, very loud, especially with him going on to cross-check and tie up the game and then win.

And us not seeing this angle for, like, 48 hours and Bruins fans thinking that, well, the NHL's not letting the Bruins play like this. But, obviously, they're loving the Bennetts playing like this. What are your thoughts on the whole controversy conversation happening around the Bruins play like this, but obviously they're loving that Bennett's playing like this. What are your thoughts on the whole controversy conversation happening around the Bruins-Panthers series about the Bruins fans feeling like they're getting screwed out of not being able to be a tough team? And on the other side, you've got old-school hockey shit happening all over the ice.

Do you agree with this? Do you hate this? What are your thoughts on it, Moose? Well, I think when you talk about playoff hockey, it's not for the faint of heart it's going to expose everything that's uh good about the game it's going to expose some things that are tough about the game it's like expose your character and everything else uh in my opinion the bennett play uh from my perspective was just a hard hockey play uh there's a lot of things that are happening at a very short amount of time. The collisions,

there's equipment, elbow pads are hard, gloves are hard. I don't think Bennett personally did it on purpose. I thought it was an unfortunate incident that Marchand took the brunt of it and put him out of the game. But I think Bennett is one of the most underrated players on the Panthers. You think about two years ago when he was injured, the Panthers barely made the playoffs. He came back, they went on a run, and went all the way to the Stanley Cup Finals. I believe that the Boston right now, they're in tough against a really hard-nosed Panthers team that make it very difficult on the other team's best players.

I think over a seven-game series, we said it before, you're going to get some good calls, you're going to get some bad calls, but over the seven-game series, a better, bigger, stronger team, a hungrier team normally wins. Okay, Moose, what do you think about the treatment of Patty Maroon? You know, a couple games now, he's been ejected before the fights get started. He got a 10-minute major in the third at the end of that 6-1 game just for snagging up to Chuck, I believe.

And then last night he got one for talking before anything even happened. And it feels like Bruins fans are like, wait a minute, if we're going to be playing our guy, that's our guy, and they're kind of penalizing. Do you see it the same way, or do you think that's just refs trying to kind of handle the situation before it gets out of control? Well, I think the referees do have a big responsibility to make sure things don't get out of control. And I also think they have to let the players settle some of this on their own as well. I think Kachuk and Pasternak did the right thing.

Kachuk challenged Pasternak. Pasternak did the right thing. Chuck challenged Pasternak. Pasternak answered the challenge. Two guys going at it. That was part of the game, part of hockey, in my opinion. And I've got to give all the credit in the world to Pasternak for saying to the coach, he's challenged me, I've got to go do this. And I think what happens is that it can galvanize the team around him and his own teammates to push them to his own teammates further on.

But as far as Maruna goes, I think the biggest thing for teams when they get to this situation right now is to make sure that their focus is on trying to win the hockey game first and foremost. And how you do that is going to be up to the team. I think the Bruins have to respond in a way that is, from a physical perspective, for sure, but also they can't forget that they've got to try to win the hockey game. Now they're down 3-1 in the series, and they're in tough. Swayman has played unbelievable this playoffs,

but now they're getting matched up with Brobroski and the goal on the other side. And we're going to see what happens. But as far as the referees, Maroon and all that, Maroon's been around a long time. He knows how to get himself involved. He knows how to put his fingerprints onto the game. And perhaps maybe a little bit too premature of getting him kicked out of the game, but they're probably trying to do that towards the end of the game so nothing

crazy happens when it's not needed. I'm excited to see what Big Rick does in response. He knows all eyes are on him. He's going to have to figure it out. He's not allowed to, so it doesn't matter. He's going to have to figure it out. Now, you talk about Swayman standing on his head. It's like, how many shots was it?

It was 41 shots to their 18 last night. 18 shots, boss. So you're talking about physically they need to figure out how to win, but also hockey, 18 shots, three periods. That's not nobody ever going to win with that amount of shots on that. Well, they're getting beat. They're getting beat all over in every aspect of the game right now. And I don't think it's surprising to anybody going

to the series that boston was going to have a hard time with florida florida's a you know a team that was anxious to get back to this time of year uh because of what happened last year and i think they were very disappointed because they had injuries to to kachuk in the finals last year that really hampered their uh their ability to play at full steam ahead. So here they are again, looking better and bigger and better than ever. You know, hungrier than ever and more experienced than ever. When you get to the Stanley Cup finals, you learn a lot about yourself. You learn a lot about your team.

And you look at the Panthers right now, they're playing as well as anybody in the playoffs right now. I mean, just dancing through the brooms. Just dancing through. It's incredible. Now, they're up 3-1 in the series. Massive Florida Panther fan, Darius Butler, has a question for you, Moose. Yes, sir. Moose, asking a six-time champ, what is the mindset for Paul Maurice and his Panthers team at home in a closeout game against these brooms?

What's the mindset going into this one? Well, you know, you think about the team that's up 3-1, you'd think the team that's losing would have the most pressure. But in my opinion, some of the most intense pressure that I faced in a seven-game series was being up 3-1 going home for game five. You're supposed to win that series. And, you know, I think the Panthers got to go home now and treat this like a sudden death

game seven game. I think that oftentimes you can kind of get ahead of yourself. You can kind of start thinking into the future about what's happening and who you're going to face next. The most important thing for the Panthers, in my opinion, anyways, is to go home and treat this like a sudden death game, like a sudden seventh game series, game in the series, and treat it like that. And it's not easy.

You've got a lot of distractions. Everybody's excited. But you lose this game, now you go back into the road to try to win the sixth game. It happened to us in 94 when we were up 3-1. We had the parade route all mapped out and all the fans were excited. We had the party planned up. And sure enough, we lost that game five. We got trounced in game six and had to come home and win in game seven.

So in my opinion, this game five, there's a lot of pressure on the home team. Boston had to do that against Toronto in the first series. Now let's talk about Boston's side of it. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Moose. Obviously, you know, any team that's not playing with their captains a massive deal and you would know that better than anybody without brad marshand in the bruins who kind of has to step into that role who becomes that guy for him or is that even possible for someone to kind of become what

brad marshand means to the bruins and how bad do you think it is his injury if he's actually not playing because he is known as one of the most durable guys especially in the playoffs I believe you know yesterday was one of if not his first game missed in the playoffs yeah I think it's got to be done by committee you took a look at a guy like Brad Marchand you know probably a certain hall of fame or a guy that's talented enough to play in Team Canada. Any player that makes Team Canada is at the elite level of our sport. Yeah, and Team USA, Moose. We don't need to get into this.

We don't need to get into this. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Or Team USA. Okay, Canada or Team USA, they're all great players. Yeah! USA!

USA! All right, all right, all right. Sorry about that. You think about Demar Shanna as being the inspirational leader of the team on top of being a Hall of Fame hockey player. So you're not going to replace him with any one player. I think you're going to have to replace him by a committee. But most important, I think the players, if he isn't able to play in game five,

the players can really kind of show how much they honor him, how much they love him by rallying around each other and putting your best foot forward. You know, he's meant a lot to that Bruin team as a captain. You know, he's done a lot of great things on and off the ice. The support that he's and what he's learned from the previous captains with Bergeon and

Chara. What a hockey player. He's matured. He's a gamer. Every team in the league would love to have him on their team. Unfortunately, he's got banged up, but we'll keep our fingers crossed that he can get back in the game and play in game five moose i don't want to do like the stereotypical sports

media question but it's like kind of sitting here and we're talking about it you know you're known as the captain what does that mean whenever somebody says like captain of a team what do you think that c on the sweater really means uh and why does somebody get it and somebody else does it and the person that's having it what does it mean to them well that's a great question i don't know how much time we have on the show nine minutes you got nine minutes i think you could sneak it in most but it's a big deal and you you're called like the cap like that is what people call you and i assume you take that as a massive honor because when we say it we mean it as a massive honor but in hockey that c it does feel like a little bit different than some other sports well i think in in hockey and i i know for all team sports you're relying on all the people

around you all the players around you uh the ecosystem around you in order to be to be a winner i mean i know a lot of players that played in the national hockey league that never won a stanley cup and i would consider winners unfortunately they weren't able to be a winner. I mean, I know a lot of players that played in the National Hockey League that never won a Stanley Cup and I would consider winners. Unfortunately, they weren't able to win a Stanley Cup. I think the captain has a massive responsibility in hockey because the team aspect of hockey might be more important than perhaps any other sport. You know, your best player on a 60-minute game maybe plays 25, 27 minutes a night, not, you know, 90% of the game, maybe not even 50% of the game. And more important than that, the trust factor uh the relationships that you have to

establish with your teammates um it's just so involved that's why i'm so reluctant when i see teams make young players captains too early in their careers there's it's just so evolved and so involved of what the responsibilities of the captain are in a team that's, you know, you're talking about livelihoods, you're talking about mistakes, you're talking about players that don't bring everything that they have to the game on any given night. And then when that happens and you don't win, you know, people get fired. You know, kids are moved. Families are uprooted and moved.

And trying to figure out a way to bring that galvanization to a team together is not easy. It takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of work. It takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of work. And, of course, on the other side of it, then you have the media. You have to be the spokesperson of the team. You have to set the messaging for the fan base. It's just, you know, I'm trying to put this all into, you know, a two-minute tutorial. Oh, yeah, sounds like quite a task.

It sounds like quite a task. It's a massive task. And then on top of all that, you have to get yourself prepared to play the game to the best of your ability, all the while living 30 lives and making sure everybody else is ready to play the game to the best of their ability. So it's a big responsibility. Responsibility. The guys that do it well obviously are super valuable, not only to the team, obviously to their team, but to the whole organization,

because you're the conduit. Also, the captain is a conduit between the players and the management and the ownership. You have to have a unified voice. The culture that's created by through the captain and the management is important to a team. And you can see teams that are successful, they have incredible cultures. And a lot of that has to do with the captain helping out in that regard and making sure that everybody's responsible for their own actions on and off the ice. So in a long-winded way of saying that uh the the captaincy in in hockey is a is a

tremendous uh amount of uh responsibility and and pressure at times heavy is the sweater that wears the sea it sounds like i mean what do you do everything pretty much and then if you stink you know everybody's looking at you as you have to be great, too. Like, if you have that on, you can't stink. You have to play great. So it's a whole balance. And Marshand, we talked to him, you know, because he's known, you know, for licking faces. Oh, yeah. And everything.

And he said whenever he got to see, he did have to act a little bit. Yeah, I had to change the way I acted a little bit because now it's not just about me. It's about the whole locker room. It's about the whole building. It's about everything. So still obviously a menace. But he talked about the, I don't want to say the burden, but how the C changed him as a human and as a player and as a leader and everything. It truly is like a very cool part of hockey, a little who gets an A, who gets a C,

and which way are we headed, hopefully, to Stanley. Now let's talk about another series that has taken place. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Moose, when it comes to Vancouver and Edmonton, I think a lot of people with Edmonton are saying, hey, these guys, you know, they're all sizzle and no steak. We know they can score. Dreisaitl and McDavid have obviously been incredible, but do they have the requisite, you know, sandpaper grit and jam that it's going to take to win a Stanley Cup? Because we saw McDavid after the game last night just get absolutely bodied. No one from Edmonton comes over and does anything.

And you're talking about protecting the best player on the ice, obviously the best player in your organization. I have a feeling if you were out there, you're coming up and letting some elbows fly. So what does Edmonton need to do, A, in response to something like that? And also, what do they need to do a in response to something like that and also what do they need to do as a whole to kind of turn this series around because it it's starting to feel like with the goaltending as well that it might be getting away from them a little bit yeah i i think that's the greatest thing about playoff hockey is it will expose your strengths and also expose

your weaknesses and i think for for Edmonton right now, this is probably one of the more balanced teams that they've had in a long time. So maybe even since the McDavid era, they've got a little more grit. They got four lines that they can play with up and down the lineup. Their defense is better. And for them, I think it's always going to be in playoffs.

And all the teams that I played that were successful in the playoffs were able to keep the puck out of our own net. It became more, we became more conscious of playing defensive hockey. You can't outscore your mistakes in playoff hockey. Certainly when there's only eight teams left playing, every team is good right now, and they will take advantage of you if you're making mistakes. We see it all over the ice.

Teams taking too many pound leads, power plays are so good. So for me, Edmonton at this point right now, they're up against a team that is a tremendous hockey team. They are big, they are strong, and more importantly, they're really skilled. And let's not forget, Vancouver's playing with maybe the third-string goaltender at this point right now. So that would be a lot different story maybe even if we're talking about Thatcher Demko as a healthy Thatcher Demko still in the net. So Vancouver, you've got to give them a lot of credit. Demko still in the net.

So Vancouver, you've got to give them a lot of credit. Rick Tockett has done an amazing job for Vancouver this year, and they've got a tremendous hockey team there. And for Edmonton, who a lot of people, including myself, got them to the Stanley Cup Finals this year, they got their work cut out against them, against Vancouver. And we'll see what happens. And as far as the physical response in playoff hockey,

this is what happens at this time of year. Your best players will be confronted physically. They will be confronted emotionally. They will be tried to, the teams will try to intimidate them. And you have to have a response. And whether that's going after their best players in the same way but uh this is part of the game and this is why it's so hard to win a stanley cup because you got to go through four teams that are taking the that are trying to take the will away from you each and every night so uh edmonton's got their work cut out for them we'll see what

happens hey quick one word answer here is we have a hard out that we're about to dance with. Rangers close it out tonight or no? I believe they do. There's no reason why they can't. They've got to keep their eye on the ball. I would not be looking ahead. Like I said earlier, for a game five, I think this is the most pressurized game in the series at times. They've got to treat this like a game seven.

And if they do that, they should be able to close the series out. You're the man. Six-time Stanley Cup champion. Now friend of the program. Can we say that? Always. Mark Messier. That's a copter. That's a copter to the program. Legend.

Sports are the greatest thing on earth. There's no need to debate anything else. Air, potentially good. Pretty good. Also true. Water, solid. Yeah.

You know, the development of housing, you know, and having a roof over your head. Not bad. Very, very good. Shoes, huge. Yeah. Chairs, big. Beds, awesome. Food, great. But... Sports, huge. Chairs, big. Beds, awesome.

Food, great. Sports, best. Okay? Let's just understand that there's something that brings the whole world together. Now, granted, there might be two different sides of it, especially in competition, but there's an escape from life for a matter of moments whenever people are competing for something much bigger than themselves, and we're in the middle of two playoff runs for two of our biggest leagues that has been

nothing short of majestic. And we're just getting started. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Now, a man who is a nine-year NFL vet and a massive Florida Panthers fan. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butler. Sweet hat. Everybody's talking about the jersey. The hat is sweet.

And I think you muted your... Did you mute? Yeah, you muted yourself. Click that button right there. Mic check. Just dipshit Florida Panthers. Did you do that, Connor? Who would have thought?

Trying to silence you. And then he's pointing fingers. What a dipshit. You absolute asshole. Wow. What a dipshit. You absolute asshole. Wow. What an idiot. Real heat. Wow.

Panthers are up 3-1 over the Boston Bruins right now. Joining us live from an attic in Ohio is a man who's a college football national champion. Gotta be like that one. Big pop. Super Bowl champion. Ryder Cup winner. And a man who's the current president of Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawker.

Hey, Hawker. Hawker, how you doing? Great, man. What does Pacers need you every single game, huh? Just blow out city when you're there on the court? I don't know about any of that. They've won a lot of games without me there, but boy, it was a fun environment. They look good, man.

For real, what is the environment like in person? It looks amazing. So, Dale Davis, who's the all-time leader in rebounds for the indiana pacers yeah he came out he revved the shit out of the engine of the indycar happy to be there absolutely did not break smile one time he was back like he was on the wood you know trying to get another board for the indiana pacers he had a revved up doll he was really but from that moment of him hitting that pedal flat all the way through the dub, it was alive in there. It really was.

And I think a lot was made of Coach Carlisle coming out and saying, small markets are allowed to have equal opportunities as well or something like that. And I think, like, Pacers fans heard that and were like, hell yeah. You know what? Yeah, this is our guy. Yeah, we would like – because we're going against New York City. I mean, Madison Square Garden.

And I know history says that the Pacers and the Knicks have big-time rivalry, but it's been a while for the Pacers to get to a point of relevance in the entire NBA where here we are. And then the Knicks, every year, it's supposed to be, it's supposed to be. That's what New York people are like with all their sports. It's supposed to be, it's supposed to be. There's so many of us. If we all say the same thing, people will start to believe it. It's supposed to be. It's supposed to be. There's so many of us. If we all say the same thing, people will start to believe it. It's supposed to be.

It's supposed to be. So whenever Coach Carlisle comes out and he's like, yeah, it does feel like we're getting cooked a little bit by the big crowd, but that's okay. All of Indiana showed up for both of these games, three and four. And the way they dominated yesterday on Mother's Day, you know, was I was sitting next to Tyrese Halliburton's mom, and then obviously I was with my wife, who's a new mom.

And then you think about everybody that was there. John Mellencamp was in attendance. The Coug was there. The man who didn't. No, he did. He was standing. Stood for the national anthem. About time.

That was a while. That was quite a play out of Mellencamp. He looked really cool on the Jumbotron. He had boots on. His hair was perfectly fluffed out of Mellencamp. He looked really cool on the Jumbotron. He had boots on. His hair was perfectly fluffed. Toothpick. I mean, yeah, he had a toothpick in his mouth. He was really killing it down there.

So it was great, AJ, to answer your question. It was a great day in Gainbridge Fieldhouse and didn't really clear out even whenever we were up 40 or so. So I think that's a beautiful thing. And this dude's a star, and he's entertaining as shit. Talks shit. He does no-look passes. He's locked in for another five years

with the Pacers, which is good news. We also need to lock T.J. McConnell in for a five- to ten-year deal here in Indiana. Pacers are all the way back. It was an honor to be there. It was nice to be in that building again. Watching McConnell play, what's it like watching him play defense in person? All I think of is how pissed off would you be if this dude was guarding you.

That's all I think of. That's exactly who he is. Yeah, you know exactly who he is. Yeah. I think every high school probably had one of these guys on their team. You go play pickup somewhere, every once in a while there will be one of these assholes. This is my card here. Yeah, sorry.

This is how this is going. You know, the whole time. That's who he is. He was even pump faking shit. He would act act like he dropped down the court then he comes back and he's like yep gotcha bitch and he's not even on that guy he just leaves yeah he was he was constantly and then aj the best part about it is during timeouts you know especially yesterday there was a lot of uh them calling timeouts to try to stop our momentum. We couldn't. So our arena's going apeshit, apeshit. McConnell's the last guy to the bench every time

because he's taking that tractor another round, and he's eyeballing the crowd. I mean, like, eyeballing the crowd full on. He is an are-you-not-entertained guy for the Pacers. It is. It's a show, bro. And Boomer, the mascot, I think from the way the body looked, same guy that's been there since I went to games,

all the security people, same people since whenever I went to games back in 2009, 2010. So it was nice to see everybody. It was nice to get back in there. And also, I mean, just absolutely destroyed the New York Knicks. And the halftime show. Not too shabby. I'll tell you what, best Simon Says player of all time, Stevie Wax.

This guy's name. Stevie Wax. Lightning Rod. It was tough to take serious early. Once he started, Simon Says shit. He was like, oh my, this is a playoff game. That's what I said. This is a playoff game.

We can't even get Red Panda out here kicking some balls. We can't get Quick Change, who I found out no longer performed because they're dead. No. Yeah, it was Quick Change. Quick Change. Simon Says, like the whole crowd play who played like was her kids yeah who kids moms pace mates on the court on the court yeah everybody's out there in a line he's talking to a group he goes all right simon says hands up hands down now hands down and then like people put their hands down and then he publicly ridicules these people and it doesn't get the hell off the floor.

He won me over. By the end, I'm like, hell yeah. That's the best Simon Says guy of all time. It was electrifying in there from start to finish. Legitimately. There were some break dancers on the floor doing their break dancing thing, like the Indiana Jabberwockies or something. They're doing their thing.

They didn't even put them on camera. They had this 90 year old lady dancing who was killing it oh my god then they go to somebody else who can't dance then they go back to this lady doing her she was dancing doing her whole thing place is going crazy the indiana jabberwockies this entire time are doing their shit on the floor so whenever somebody at like one of them was asking a question like you want to see me me do a headstand? And they had that lady on there dancing. Yeah, they're like, yeah, do a headstand. Nobody knew they were.

I think I was the only person that knew. I didn't know until you were saying this right now that there was something going on in the court other than that lady dancing. Bingo. That lady wanted to. Really? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Indiana Jabberwock.

They were doing okay. They got to be pissed. They got to be pissed if they keep showing this old lady instead of them. Bro, they were jogging off, though. Huge. They thought. Good. I don be pissed if they keep showing this old lady instead of them. Bro, they were jogging off though. Huge. They thought. Good. I don't know if they know what happened above them. I think they still potentially think. They do now. They do now.

It was you, Jabberwockies. And you killed it. You crushed it. Everyone who watched said it was sick. Dude, nobody was watching them. I know. Not a single person. I actually looked around at the entire arena and I said, nobody's watching the Indians. Wait, because they're showing Sister Jean dancing in the crowd? Was she part of the entertainment?

She's just a fan. Black lady up in the thing. Might have been 80 years old. Like 70, 80 years old. Definitely. In that thing. We're talking moving. Grabbed a towel at one point.

As if she was doing a bull. It's like she knew doing a... She knew. I think... I don't know who all was with who in the crew, but there was one person sitting right next to this lady dancing. Had his camera shooting right at the Jumbotron. Was just dancing

alongside of her. Massive smile. It was like, this is a moment right now we're having in the Indiana Jabbawockeez. Whiskin' her lives or standing on their heads. Just got cucked all over the place out there. It was a good time. It was a good moment. Back to MSG now with all the New York City coastal elitists expecting the refs to call everything for them.

Like that Tony Peters son of a bitch. Funny stories about Tony Brothers. He mocked me. He came over to me and did a little punt kick thing and rolled his eyes. And I'm like, Tony Peters, you need to relax. Thought that was his name the entire time. I called him Tony Peters no less than 15 times. His name's Tony Brothers, AJ.

Don't be an asshole. I do think they heard me, though. He probably loved the give and take They tried to start going for the Knicks We were up 25 They tried to start Big time Big time

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Yeah, he was. Okay, so I did know that I knew him. Yeah, so Scott Foster is the one that always comes up when Chris Paul's in the playoffs because he's never won with him. Okay, so I actually told my wife. I said, this guy here, he was the one whenever Barnes to Kobe. He's the one that gave the ball to Matt Barnes. He's been around a long time.

That's Tony Peters. And then I said, this one right here, you know, this tall white. I've seen this white before. I don't know what. I've seen him before. He's been around. Very experienced crew yesterday. Oh, yeah, very.

Very experienced crew. They were getting it. We were up 35, and the fans were calling him bums. Way goes. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man whose mentions have been pretty toxic, I believe, for about a week or so. Yeah. Now, we will say, and I'm sure he will as well, his own fault. Went out on his own and said, 30 NBA guys could play in the NFL.

30 NFL guys couldn't play in the NBA. What happened after that was every person that's ever played in the NFL said, oh, shut up, bitch. And then everybody that hasn't played any sport and maybe played high school football said, this guy's a bum. And then he started getting attacked by professional athletes on platforms. He never said he would be one of the

guys. No, he didn't. He was just saying NBA guys as a whole. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, 12-year NBA vet. I think that got lost in the conversation as well. Austin Rivers. Yeah, Austin! I'm back. Here I am. Here I am, world.

Hey, do you have anything, any proclamations to make? Well, first off, I don't take anything I said back, so I don't give a fuck. So, I don't really care. By the way, Patrick Mahomes said yesterday courtside, that guy could definitely play in the NFL.

I got Brandon Marshall, Saquon Barkley, all these guys calling my phone like, yo, you know you're right, right? So listen, if the one guy from Green Bay who I never heard of wants to say his little piece or talk, then so be it, man. I don't really give a damn. Is it 30 players? I don't know. It could be 10, could be 12.

By the way, I'm only talking two positions, tight end, wide receiver. And again, I didn't say they'd be Terrell Owens out there. I just said we had guys that could absolutely go out there and play. And no, I didn't say myself, but I am 6'5", with a 40-inch vertical, and I run a 4'5". And I'm 220. So I don't know what I could do or not do. I don't think I could take a

tackle. That's for damn sure. I'd probably play one snap, get one catch, and then I might be out for the rest of the year. I appreciate the way you've handled this here. I appreciate the way you've handled this. J.J. Watt came on our show. I don't know if you know that, because J.J. came out and said, well, why don't you try? And then we actually called J.J. and were like, hey,

he actually said he was not. He's not one. Yeah, no, why don't you try? And then we actually called JJ and were like, hey, he actually said he was not. He's not one. Yeah, no, I wasn't on that list. I wasn't on that list. Yeah, JJ felt like an asshole. He's like, oh, great. So I didn't watch a full video. It's a quote out of context.

I'm doing exactly what I hate people to do. And then he said, I'm not saying what he said was wrong either. JJ even said that in this whole thing. And then once you start breaking down, you know, like, okay, is it one play? Is it one situation? How many practices? Is there a training camp? Is there this whole – that's where it started to get – which was great fodder.

I want to let you know, you did a great job. Hey, thank you for what you did for us and for the internet. I appreciate you. For the internet. I mean, you really – you threw one out there that really got going. It's crazy what that turned into, man. I walked through the airport today and I got stopped 10 times. They're like, 30?

I'm like, I don't know. I don't have my book with me with all the players listed. I don't even know how to respond to this shit, man. I can't believe that took the light that it, like, the way that thing just took off and the whole world was

captivated by it. it just was like insane. And I'll tell you why. You know why that is, right? Why? It's because we've thought about this. This has been a thing for a while. There's always been a little rift between football and basketball players, and we know why. I don't want to get into this.

I've already said enough. I'm not getting into that anymore. But there's always been a little something there. It starts with a mutual respect. It starts with a mutual respect for one another. So, yeah, it was fun. It was a good conversation. Yeah, it was good chatter.

And I think what you're talking about is maybe in college is where this starts. Now at Duke, probably a different animal. Although this, hey, this modern Duke football team. Well, unfortunately. It's over. Yeah, it's done. Yeah, it's over. Quarterback left, too, the guy.

Yeah, he went to the other team. Yeah, he's gone, too. So it's over. We had it's done. Yeah, it's over. Quarterback left, too, the guy. Yeah, he went to the other game. Yeah, he's gone, too. So it's over. We had our moment. Kirk Cliffson, coach? No, no, no, no. Ben? No, yeah.

Duke football's dead again. Yeah, for sure. But they were really cool. Relax. They're getting Cooper Flagg. They got Cooper, yeah. So that's going to be sick. Oh, yeah, he's going to be doing it.

Yeah. Your basketball team still get down there at Duke? We're preseason number one next year. When was the last time you guys won? Just another year. No, it's not just because of Cooper. We cleaned house, man. We got, like, three transfers.

We got this kid from Africa who's, like, seven foot, great hands, great feet. We got Isaiah Evans who's, like, a 6'8", top five player. We have the number one recruiting class the next two years. So it's just another year. Okay. Well, congrats to the Duke Blue Devils basketball team running that campus. Yeah. When was the last time?

The whole conversation, I believe, that you were kind of alluding to there. Let's talk about a little bit of basketball here, shall we? Let's talk a little basketball. We had Perk on in the first hour. He said that he thinks that Nuggets-Wolves go in seven games. Do you agree with that? Do you think the Nuggets have figured it out? No, you think they're battling back, yes?

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, my God, did Minnesota trick that off before the halftime. Did you see that 7-0 run that they had? Oh, yeah. They cut it to eight. Nikola finds KCP for three. Ant turns it over. MPJ gets a layup, and then they turn the ball over again, and Jamal launches this thing.

Half court. From half court, and it's a 7-0 swing. It goes from being a ball game to, I mean, this right here, this tosses the ball. I mean, it's a, oh, my God. I mean, for the half to end like that, it really broke their back. I mean, it changed the entire outlook of the game and they were never able to get back. Now that it's 2-2 going back to Denver and Denver has this momentum, the series, it went

from everyone being like, man, Minnesota's going to the finals to, you know, this is going to be a seven game series. I had Denver winning originally. I still have them winning now. I have them winning in game seven, though. I think they go back and win in Denver. I think they win three straight, and then Minnesota wins six at home, and then I think Denver takes it at home.

Okay. I'm excited to watch that series because everything that we were taught over the last couple years of this Malone-Joker team is like when they just flip it on, it's on. I guess that's kind of how it goes. I'll be excited to see if this Ant-Man, who we are all massive fans of, can put the fire out there at mile high like they did the first two games. Go ahead, AJ.

Can you talk a little bit about Aaron Gordon? I know people do talk about him, but I feel like he's like an unsung hero. Everything the guy does, he's really fun to watch. But I know I watch the interview when he's sitting there and he's praising the Joker and saying how humble he is and everything. They seem like they have a great thing going, but what does Aaron Gordon mean to that team? Man, Aaron's one of my best friends. He is one of the most selfless human beings, and for him, he is the heart and soul, in my eyes, an X-factor of that Denver team. He plays that dunker spot well. He was

misdiagnosed as a player coming in. He was a lottery pick. And in Orlando, they try to make him a scorer. And that's not exactly what he is. He's able to score playing a role. Once he turned into a role player, playing with a guy like Nikola, they work so well together. They have the best put starting lineup in the NBA. Every single piece is there to complement the next man. And I don't think anyone's more important than Aaron. Aaron gets lost in the weeds. And I think when we say the name Aaron Gordon, we automatically just, you know,

that name is synonymous with just dunking because of the things he's done in the dunk contest. But they won the game last night because of him. And there's no doubt about it. And actually, even the games before that, the game before that, he shot he shot the ball well if he's hitting shots i don't know how you beat that team um you know because that's just like the cherry on top he does all the other stuff he defends he was one of the biggest reasons why they went last year i don't know if y'all remember that run he went on he guarded kd the first series then he guarded uh uh this guy the next series right now he's guarding and a lot i mean he has his hands full. He's a huge piece of that team.

He's the best defensive player on their team. And then now he's putting up 20 on games too. Yeah. I thought you were going to rattle off all the names there. And that would have been phenomenal if you would have been able to be like, last year, remember, you got KD. Then he got this guy. I don't remember the order of which they played.

I don't remember who they – I know LeBron and the Lakers were the conference finals. Yes. It was LeBron, KD. We're missing somebody. He had someone in the – Paul George or Kawhi? I forget.

Yeah, I don't know. But it was – I mean, listen, he's one of the best defenders in the league that never gets that type of praise because I think he's just on such a heavy-hitting team. When you talk about the Nuggets, you talk about Nicola, you talk about Jamal. Even their third leading scorer last year was Michael Porter Jr. Even this year. He's the guy that gets lost in the weeds. He's probably

the X-Factor for that team considering what they ask of him. Crazy game. Tim wants to need help. Go ahead. What did you say? Ant needs help. He had 44 last night. Yeah, phenomenal. You know, A.G. has won the last two games.

He's won the matchup versus Carl. You know, Carl Anthony Towns is an all-star. So these are things that have to change. But, yeah, A.G.'s my guy. We usually go on vacations every summer, wholesome trips, mind you. Yeah, I can imagine. Don't start that. Yeah, super wholesome. You guys are talking shit about NFL guys the whole time

you guys go to a beach and say you're 30 you guys can go play NFL AG was one of the guys on that list I know there were some people around you that were gassing up this entire conversation because when you came in and said listen there's 30 that had been chatted about in your head around people before,

I would respect A.G. on there. Dreads would look sick out of the helmet, too. Do you know what's funny about this, Pat? Notice this entire argument since then. We only have been talking about the NBA players that could play in the NFL. No one has thrown out names the other way. You're not listening. You're not listening.

You're not listening. T.J. W We're not listening. You're not listening. T.J. Watt. I don't know if you saw him. Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry. A.J. Hutchinson. Yeah.

Playing the NBA? Yeah. Jason Kelsey. The authority. They got down there in Indianapolis, but they got to be strong as hell. It's not me. It's not me. It's Coastal Elite.

It's us. It's Dan. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us. It's us.

It's us. Those guys are 6'4", 6'5". They play like centers. Just because they can dunk. You guys are the same guys that saw J. Cole dunk in an All-Star game and were like, J. Cole can play in the NBA. Wow. Easy.

He never said that. J. Cole would never say that he could do that, obviously. He went down and played in... What is that list? In Puerto Rico. What is that list? Let's be list. This is Dan Orlovsky's list.

This is a Coastal Elite, big city guys list. Amon Ross, St. Brown. I just want to let you guys know. Aiden Hutchinson. Absolutely. You're absolutely delusional if you think any of these guys can play in the NBA. Aiden Hutchinson? What are you talking about?

Not one of these guys would say they could play in the NFL. Now, look. Chase Claypool. Mark Andrews? You don't think Mark Andrews is getting a board? Come on. You don't think? Getting a board doesn't make you an NBA player.

Christian McCaffrey. McCaffrey would be like McConnell 2.0. Bro, Cooper Cupp is going on your fucking head. Yeah. Austin, he's going on your head. George Kittle. Come on. Oh, my God. George Kittle? Come on. Oh, my God.

George Kittle's doing this every single time. Tyreek Hill at 5'8". Dude, did you see what Micah did to the sumo wrestler? Just imagine what he'd do to you guys. Oh, man. You're done. He was fouled out in two minutes. He's got six fouls.

Those guys can't play in the NBA. Hey, listen, if Tony Peters is going to call everything, if Tony Peters is going to do that bullshit that he was doing for the Knicks, of course they'll foul off. Tony Peters is nuts. Tony Peters is nuts. I can't even get over that. Listen, I respect it, man.

You guys have passion for football. I love it. None of those guys could come close to playing in the NBA, and they know that. You know that. I know you know that deep down. I know you know that deep down. I know you know that deep down. These guys are like... Miles Garrett is dunking the ball at 6'5".

We have 7 foot... It's crazy. You guys even think this is possible. Do you know what this thing looks like from a 6'5", 280 pounder as opposed to a 6'8"? It looks like an offensive liability. It looks like an offensive liability. There's too much skill involved in the NBA.

This is what the Baxter girl looked like down in the post. A.Q. Shipley's taking that gut putting that thing and you're staying like this. Not on purpose. You're going to be able to do shit. Nothing. I don't take anything you're saying

right now seriously. Nothing. Nothing. I don't take anything you're saying right now seriously. Nothing. That's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. You're not saying on your own show am I taking this seriously. You are so disrespectful. Bad journalism on my show. Bad journalism.

You're not going to take anything. I was at a game yesterday. When was the last time you were at an NBA game? When was the last time you were at an NBA game? A week ago. You don't know? I was there yesterday. This guy had no shit.

You don't know anything. I was boots on the wood yesterday. High ball and tough. T.J. McConnell, that guy could play any inning. Easy. McConnell could no doubt about it. Ten rushes, 100 yards, two touchdowns. I'm putting McConnell at safety.

He's John Lynch being part of it. Okay, so now I get the rift. We're trolling. I'm putting McConnell at safety. He's John Lynch. Okay, so now we're trolling. I love it. We're trolling! TJ McConnell's a dog, Austin. He's from Pittsburgh, Austin. I love TJ McConnell. Having him in the end of...

Don't troll him. What are you saying? I'm going to have to have a drink after this. I'm not even kidding. I'm sweating through my jacket right say? I'm going to have to have a drink after this. I'm not even kidding. Oh, no way. I'm sweating through my jacket right now. I'm sweating through my jacket. You guys are getting me hot.

I can't even do this. Well, listen. That's what football is. Welcome to football, baby. Welcome to football. Okay? You want to know a true story about me in football? You want to know a true story about me in football?

We heard it. You quit. I tried out for... Yeah, you know why? Because there's... Yeah, it's too hot. Too hot. Oh, my ears hurt with the helmet on. Yeah, we heard it. You heard me. We heard it, yeah, you know why? Because there's, you know. Yeah, it's too hot. Too hot. Oh, my ears hurt with the helmet on. Yeah, we heard.

You heard me. We heard it, yeah. We heard it. Putters lasted longer than they said. Yeah, I heard that. I heard that. That was rude. I didn't like when they said that, but a lot of people were saying that.

Anyways. Said what? Nothing. They were saying kickers and putters are tougher. I didn't think you deserved that. I didn't think you deserved it. 12-year NBA veteran. Yeah, come on.

This guy played 12 years in the NBA. What are we talking about? He's been running wooden cities for so long. Austin, we appreciate and respect the NBA guys. Always. I'm not clapping to that. I don't want that slow clap. That bullshit-ass clap. Well, that's the entitlement

from the NBA players that leads us back to thinking you guys won't be able to make it. Every day you gotta earn it. Every day in football you gotta earn it. The day in football you're going to earn it. The inch in front of you. Yeah, that's right. The inch behind you. Hey, you know what my rift is with the NFL?

Can I be honest with you? You know what my rift is, really? Let's break it down. Datings are up. Money's up. The NFL is more about it's – the NBA is more like it's more player-driven where the NFL is more about the team. You know what I mean? And, you know, that's always been, I think from an athlete standpoint,

when you want to make the, you know, the professional sports and be at the top of the top, not that you want it to be about yourself, but like you want to be able to achieve that level of, of, of, you know, symbolism for yourself as a great athlete. Not that you can't do that in the NFL because these guys are amazing athletes, man. NFL athletes are freaks. I mean, what are we talking about here? But the teams are driven by the sports. When you think of the NFL, you think of the Packers.

You think of the Cowboys. You think of the Bears. You think of whoever. Where the NBA, you think of LeBron James, and you think of Kevin Durant. It's just a little different. You know what I mean? So it's all depending on what you want. If this goes in, you're wrong.

Boom. Universe ball. Gotcha. Oh! Oh, my! If you would have made that, I actually would have been hot. Moose ball. Because –

Bonus ball, bonus ball, bonus ball. A little harder off that. Big ring. Oh. That was good. There it is. Oh, my God. I'm lying.

Too jacked up. Too jacked up. We'll catch that later. Too strong, which goes back to the NFL NBA thing. Yeah. I did see you courtside yesterday. Thank you. You looked good.

Thank you. It was very nice. I don't like the shell toes. I don't like the jeans, how they were laid over the shell toes. But you were on some different timing. But if I was standing, I look great. You know, sitting down is kind of tough. I didn't take that into account that that's how the photos are going to be. I stand up there, I

look sweet. Do they give you those tickets or do you pay for them? Tyrese Halliburton, I don't know if you know him, future face of the NBA Team USA member, Tyrese Halliburton, those are his tickets. Yes, yes, Balder, Hooper. Dog, yeah. I mean, what I didn't know when I took those, and I'm very thankful for the,

because these tickets were, there was some that were similar that were for sale on SeatGeek, and I think they were like $4,500 a piece. Pretty pricey. So very thankful for Tyrese Halliburton. You know, my wife and I had a blast. One of the cameramen, his name was Ron. I think he's been taking pictures on ASCord for 40 years. He's a little, you get a call from an NBA player telling you, stop. You need to slow down.

We're getting buried enough by these football guys. No, that's my Uber Eats delivering my beer that I told you I need after. Right. Drink coming. Hey, the camera people,

that was an interesting, there's like a line they're not allowed to go in front of, and I guess my guy was the least flexible one, so he needed the most amount of leg space. Nice.

His name was Ron. So he was right there in my lap. I mean, I literally, I was putting food on this guy's head. He was sitting right in front of me. And Ron, hey, he knew Aaron. Ron was the show, part of the show. He got great photos.

But that is a part of the NBA. Fans are so close to like, I mean, they're like on top of you there. You know what I mean? Like they are actually in the middle of the action, which leads me to like the refs, like Tony Peters and the boys. Like they were in the middle of the action, which leads me to the refs, like Tony Peters and the boys. They were in the middle of it all.

Darius has a question for you, Austin. Your refs are more known and obviously got a big impact on the game, just like all sports, but Tony Brothers, Scott Foster, all these guys, do you guys have a scout report going into the game? Because we know as sports better, some of us, hey, Scott Foster's going on his game, staying away we know as sports better some of us hey scott foster's going on his game staying away from the players yes i don't even waste my time with tony brothers that's that that guy is that guy will get you i played the pacers three years ago and

got thrown out for missing lance stevenson and i did like a fake elbow i didn't even elbow him i didn't touch him he reviewed it and still threw me out the game. There's certain refs, like you said, that you have to know going into it that sometimes they get a little bit too involved in the show, in my opinion. And they start getting emotional with

the crowd and can do stuff. Tony's one of those guys. I'm not saying he's a bad ref, but you've got to know your people. Tony's one of those dudes you just don't mess around with because he could end up, you know, fucking you over a little bit. You know, that's just what it's going to be. I'm just going to be honest with you. I've gotten thrown out multiple times of games by Tony brothers.

And, you know, I still think he's a good ref overall, but he's an emotional guy. Of course, he's great. And I'm happy that, you know, somebody calling the wrong name for three, four quarters didn't really make him turn it. They were trying to get the Knicks back in that game, though. It was starting to – Brady. Started, and it was like, wait a minute.

But the Pacers – Knicks are in trouble. Yeah, they are. Okay, Ty has a question for you, Austin. Yeah, Austin, so speaking of that, obviously early on, really up until the Pacers series, it looked like the Knicks were just playing with house money. Obviously Brunson was going crazy.

But we know how banged up they are. They don't really have anybody coming off the bench. And it seems like if Brunson or DiVincenzo isn't scoring like 40-plus, they're in a bad spot. Have they officially just run out of gas? Are they in trouble now moving on the rest of this series with the Pacers seemingly kind of catching fire here? The problem that I have is, to your question,

I don't like the – you have multiple guys that he's – and I love Thibodeau. I think Thibodeau is one of the better coaches in the league. But he's running some of these guys to the ground. Just due to the minutes he plays these guys to the ground you know what i mean just just due to the minutes he plays these guys and he asked them uh when you look at indiana they have mcconnell and obi toppin and all these guys that they're able to throw off the bench that can have impacts whereas the knicks man like they're just now trying to get like alec burks in the game

they're trying to find something you know you're playing josh hart 48 minutes out of a 48 minute game and i think people think oh man you know nba is not a physical sport it's not a contact sport you're playing both sides of the ball you're running up and down all game and this is a different era this is different from playing 48 minutes in the 90s you know in the 90s that they were walking the ball up the floor and the final score of these games were like 79 82 these scores are now 120 130 their track meets and you got guys out there playing 48 minutes a night jaylen brunson that what's on his shoulders every night is so i i can't even imagine as a player having that much on your shoulder so i don't know if they could they're great at home

that that home court presence you got to admit the msg what they do in there yeah they're unbelievable at home but when they're on the road they haven't shown to been able to win yet it does look like they're running out of, they haven't shown to have been able to win yet. It does look like they're running out of gas. I have questions whether, like, even if they were able to win this series, like, good God, what would you expect from them from next series? You can go another seven games playing these guys 48 minutes a night. You know, OG's already hurt.

You know, you hope nothing happens to Brunson or Harder. Their series is over. So I don't know. I don't like the likelihood of them, you know, coming out anymore. I had them as a team that could go compete against Boston, and I'm not so sure about that. Instead, it's the Pacers, Austin Rivers says. Yeah, I think the Pacers can... I think the Pacers are losing

seven. To the Knicks? Yeah, I think the Pacers are losing seven to the Knicks. It sounds like that is a pre-series started judgment pick, and now you've got to stick by it. Don't be a homer. Don't be a homer. You know what I was at next to on the plane today?

Where you at today? Mike Epps. Oh, yeah? How was that? He's a good dude. He's a big Indianapolis guy, right? Oh, yeah. Bought back the block here.

Flipped over a whole neighborhood. Did the whole thing. Yeah, he is. Oh, did he? Yeah, I saw him on the plane. He's hype about the Pacers. Yeah, what'd you Oh, did he? Yeah, I saw him on the plane. He's hype about the Pacers. Yeah, what'd you say to him?

Did you say, hey, I'm an asshole. Before the series started, I said it was going to be the Knicks, but now that I've watched the games and I've seen what's happened, I still can't say that it's not going to be the Knicks because you see I made a prediction before the series started. The series is tied, Pat. The series is tied. Yeah, we all see what's happening. It's swinging.

We all see what's happening. Look at you. We all see. Were you there? Have you been in a game? I was there yesterday. I would never pay tickets to go to a Pacers game on the court, man. This guy sucks.

This guy sucks. You don't know what you're missing. They revved the engine yesterday. Double D. I do love playing in Indianapolis because they have a great home crowd. I'll give you that. Great environment. It's always been a basketball town, though.

Indianapolis is a basketball city. Well, Peyton came and there's a statue now, and certainly it is a football town. But if the Pacers with this particular team can win, quickly we'll come back to being a full-blown basketball city, which I think it already is. I might have just been missing the boat. Like Tyrese Halliburton is the perfect star for Indiana. From Iowa

State, obviously, born in Wisconsin. His personality is perfect for here, and he's a dog. He is. Yeah, he is. TJ McConnell, I'm telling you, he is. He knows it, too. He is loved here. Toppin?

This dude hit his head off the top of the backboard yesterday while we were watching him play. It's like Jackson. Look at that. That is unbelievable. Yeah, it was phenomenal. They could do whatever the hell they wanted. Legitimately, they could do whatever the hell they wanted. And then Guy I just learned of with sweet mustache and Morgan Wallen.

Ben Shepard, the man. Ben Shepard. This dude's got a sweet stache. You know, good fake. Rookie. Box top. You guys are such homers. It's unbelievable.

My God. Look at you going in on the dynamic of each guy's haircut. This is insane. We got dogs, dude. You weren't in that barn yesterday, Austin. That place is buzzing. I'm a journalist. You're a guy that's on a plane with Mike Epps.

I don't need to hear it. Boom. Boom. There's Chef Dog. Describe them perfectly. I got to admit. Yeah. I got to admit. It hear it. Boom. There's Chef Dog. Describe him perfectly. I gotta admit, it's a great staff. Hashtag journalism, prick. I mean, that is literally what we're doing here.

AJ has a question for you, Austin. Austin, a bit of a veer. Going back to the fans, I know your dad's a coach. Does he have any stories of fans just getting too involved into the huddles? I just imagine as a coach, when you have the people between where the the coaches sit and the uh you know the table there's like 10 8 fans they sell these seats are they like do you ever have to find a way to get your security

to box these like box them out or get out of the way or like what it just feels like it's very invasive yeah players do they usually don't mess with the coaches too much um i don't think i can't think of a memory of him getting into it with a fan that really drove him over the edge. Or a fan who just hissed that he's standing in their way. Like, hey, coach, move out of the way, coach. That doesn't happen, I hope. I'm sure it does happen because there are privileged people all around this world

that we walk in, especially when people pay a lot of money for tickets on the court side. Sometimes people feel like they're entitled to just being. Jess, real quick, real quick, before you go any further, if I would have paid $4,500 for the seats that I was sitting in, Tyrese Halliburton did, I'm thankful for that. With that guy in my lap the entire time, I could see how people would be like,

why? What are we even... But that's different than the coach walking in front of you trying to coach a team. Agreed, completely. Agreed completely. There's the guy's seat right there. That's the guy's seat right there. That thing that. That's the guy's seat right there. That thing. That's backwards? Yeah, well, I did that for Calhoun.

I was about to say, did Colin call you about that or no? No, I did it for a call. I mean, I legitimately did it for a call. Not the biggest hat wearer because of the size and shape of my head, but if I want to walk in Indiana anywhere, I normally have to have a hat at least over the face a little bit so I can keep it moving. So, you know, uncomfortable, put on backwards. Shout out Colin Cowherd, who we love.

Hey, we love. Yeah, we love him. Absolutely love him. But, yeah, I had a good time there, man. I had a good time. But the guy's in there. But you're right. There is situations in basketball, AJ, that doesn't happen in any other sport.

I mean, there's people sitting four feet behind the bench. They're they're four feet in the bench like patrick beverly that situation like yeah that i mean that yeah exactly that that happened that's what i'm saying it happens with the players more i think the players are more emotional into a game it's like a job for a coach to be a little bit more emotionally stable where players are just like very vulnerable out there so you have these plans or these i'm sorry these fans saying like fuck you you suck this this and that like you know it's easy noise until the game doesn't go your way and you're losing and then these guys are still talking and all it takes is one of these guys to kind of react emotionally which happens all the time i

mean pat beverly obviously is the most recent but it happens almost every game you'll see a player say something to a fan you know where football, you can kind of tune that stuff out. You've got the helmet. A football arena is also so much bigger, and there's so many more fans in a football arena, it's very hard to single out one guy talking to you. It's a stadium. Yeah, we do stadiums. You guys do arenas.

We do 70, 80,000. More people want to go. You guys do 14, 15. Yeah, exactly. Rightfully so, because we only have 12, 13 guys per team. You guys have 14, 15. Exactly. Rightfully so, because we only have like 12, 13 guys per team. You guys have like 200 on a team. So everybody gets in the arena to watch. Everybody gets in the team to play. To everyone.

Hey, we appreciate you. Safe travels wherever you're headed. Keep killing it. We are sorry that your mentions became what they became. I don't know why you keep saying that. I got good stuff. I had tons of people back me. Look at you trying to control the narrative.

I did not see a single positive. Not me. I didn't see a single. I got plenty of positives. Good for your algorithm, dude. Your algorithm's working extra time to find you positive. That's good. You're all going. All I got to do is go to that inbox, baby. Go to them comments. I got people that love me, people that hate me. Either way, it's all good, man. You're the best. It That's good. You're all going. All I got to do is go to that inbox, baby. Go to them comments. I got people that love me, people that

hate me. Either way, it's all good, man. You're the best. It's all good. Hey, Duke's going to win it all this year, too. Duke's going to win it all this year. Thank you. Something nice from you. I appreciate it. Rain or repeat. I didn't think about Hurley. If they're playing in that bum-ass arena up there in Connecticut,

they got an extra grit. They're never going to get content. That team's going to be hungry forever. We got two arenas. Gampel and XL. They both stink. I love Hurley, though. I love Hurley. Hurley's the man. He is. Just like you, Austin. We appreciate you, man. There we go. Hey, go basketball.

Ladies and gentlemen, Austin Rivers. Yeah, Austin! That's awesome. I enjoy Austin. He's awesome. He's good. He's incredible. He is phenomenal. He knows.. He's incredible. He is phenomenal. He knows. Really, really glad that he didn't say Doc Rivers had a bad experience in Boston, too. That's what most guys do.

I think T.J. McConnell said he had an okay time up there in Boston. I think D.Vincenzo said he had a good time up there. I don't know if D.Vincenzo had a good time up there. I don't know if Devin Chenzo had a good time up there either. Really? What's that? A little price and mix review.

No. Okay. Boston is rowdy. I'll tell you what, the Indiana fans, I was really impressed yesterday. Me too. Genuinely. Like the people that were sitting behind us, they wouldn't shut up the whole time to the point where there's three minutes

left and they're chanting for James Johnson to go into the game. Yeah, who is brought back to be like, I think he's Tyrese Halliburton's like... Enforcer? Yeah, like kind of. I think he's kind of brought back. We need that. Yeah, I forget. Somebody to my back right was telling a story and I was eavesdropping completely you know because they

were chanting for this guy to get in the game james we want james we want james we want james and i'd seen james come over and hug uh tyrese's mom because she was sitting two doors down and i got a nice clean dap up and i said hey good luck out there and he said all love with the thing i'm like this guy's cool let's go this guy's cool. He got dyed blonde dreads, kind of, but they're thick dreads, you know. And I was like, oh, that guy's sweet. So then when everybody was chanting for him to get in the game, I was listening. I didn't know who we were talking about. You know, I didn't cover closely.

I guess he's like the guy who's kind of something happened to Tyrese in one game. He wasn't on the team. And then he was brought back like literally the next day. It was like, yeah, we need to have him. I think he's like a black belt, too. Okay. Former Heat player. He's one of the tough guys.

Remember that. For sure. Okay, so the drunk suit that was sitting behind me was telling an accurate story. Yeah, nailed it. Okay, that's good news. He was beloved. I think he was telling them, no, I don't want to go with him. Yeah, I thought he did the pump fake run up and then turn around.

I thought that's what he did, and people started going nuts. Yeah, I think Coach Carlisle looked down at one point at him, and he was like, I've been sitting here for like three hours. I'm good. I am very okay. We are up 40 right now. Let's not be wasting any time. Joining us now, a man who might have more information on everything

happening within the Association of the National Basketball, senior insider for The Athletic, The Stadium, and FanDuel TV. man who might have more information on everything happening within the Association of the National Basketball, senior insider for The Athletic, the stadium, and FanDuel TV, ladies and gentlemen, Shams Sharani. Yeah, Shams! Shams, you can go ahead and break the news. The Pacers are winning it all this year. Go ahead, Shams.

I mean, they're obviously in good position for the conference finals at the very least. But listen, Knicks still have home court advantage. I wouldn't count them out. I would not rule out Josh Hart, Dr. DiVincenzo playing at a higher level. But Indy was lit last night. Indy was definitely going yesterday during the day, especially on Mother's Day. I know you had Samantha out there, courtside with you. So shout-out to Samantha.

Shout-out to all the moms out there. My mom. All the moms. Hey, shout-out to all the moms. Shout-out to moms. Moms. All the mothers out there. And shout-out to Samantha. Mom. You know, got a chance to all the moms out there my mom all the moms hey shout out to all the moms shout out moms moms all the mothers out there and shout out to samantha mom you know we got a chance to enjoy the day we had a nice you know hang out with uh baby girl do a little brunch at the house then we get out and go see a game then we came back shout out to the grandparents i mean it was

it was maybe the best mother's day i've ever uh been a part of now obviously it's because i'm witnessing what a mom does for the first time over this last year like day in day out the last big mother's day i had is uh i got an air horn and showed up at uh my parents house oh nice 3 a.m yeah happy mother's day and one is to be the most memorable mother's day of all time you're the first one to wish your mother happy mother's day i brought an ice cream cake my brother had it was a full thing yeah so that was a big mother's day yesterday was a happy Mother's Day. Bingo. I brought an ice cream cake my brother had. It was a full thing, yeah. So that was a big Mother's Day. Yesterday was a good Mother's Day.

Nice. But anyways, let's talk about the NBA, the big stories. I got caught on the internet yesterday. I got caught. By what? Bronny James Jr., check mark, okay, on the X, puts out a picture of Bronny James wearing an Ohio State Buckeye uniform. I'm having a good Mother's Day.

I don't have time. I'm looking down good Mother's Day. I don't have time. I'm looking down. I see this. I'm like, holy shit. He's finishing his story. You know, he's finishing his dad, you know, Ohio kid, just a kid from Akron. You know, Ohio State. He goes and wins a title with them.

He's doing it all. I'm all in. O-H, I say. O-H, holy hell. What a good thing for Columbus. And then, like, 20 minutes later, I say. Oh, wait. Holy hell. What a good thing for Columbus. And then like 20 minutes later, I go and check on it. Oh, no. This is the next tweet.

Oh, no. I was caught. I was caught by a fake. Now, I don't think that should be allowed. But nonetheless, I got to keep my head on a swivel on the Internet. Now he is definitely in the NBA draft because his medicals got cleared. Can we get a standing on where Bronny is right now and what the expectations are, Shams? The expectation is that he's going to stay in the NBA draft in June,

and a lot of that is team belief and industry belief. And his agent, Rich Paul of Clutch Sports, he's been making it clear over the last few years he's had number one overall picks, but he's had guys go all throughout the draft. It's about situation. It's about fit even more so than a specific pick number, like goal being a top 20 pick, a top 25 pick.

It's about getting a guy in the right situation. Example, last year, Chris Livingston, Fort Ridge Paul, he went 58 overall. The last pick of the NBA draft last year, he had the most guaranteed money of all time for an NBA player drafted that late in the NBA draft. So the fact that that is kind of a template for, it doesn't matter where you go, it's about opportunity, it's about fit, and at the end of the day, investment. And wherever Bronny James goes, whether it's the Lakers, whether it's to another team, having a developmental plan for him and having investment in terms of his on-court play as as well as the money the guaranteed

money that's going to come into shape whether that's late in the first round whether that's in the second round what does the guaranteed money look like and that's what brony james rich paul they're gonna all navigate over the next few weeks but the full expectation around the league is that brony james is going to stay in the draft and the question is going to be where he goes not if he gets drafted um and i would expect he's going to do all the workouts this week at the Draft Combine in Chicago. He's going to do the Pro Days next week in LA in front of NBA teams. He's going to visit probably a handful of teams privately and then get a better understanding of exactly where he might go, exactly what pick range he's going to go, exactly what a

potential deal could look like. And then we'll know more then whether it's going to be with LeBron James, potentially with the L Lakers could it be another team as well okay so Rich Paul runs the NBA we assume he'll have it all figured out I read his book phenomenal author phenomenal agent and obviously goes from selling jerseys to running the National Basketball Association an absolute stud and you just kind of hit on it there at the end go ahead Ty yeah Shams is there a chance that some other team's gonna draft Bronny just to piss Lebron off and maybe see if they can't get him to not be on the lakers uh or are most other executives being like yeah this guy averaged like 1.7 points last year like we're not drafting him let lebron draft him i think people view

brawny james game and they see someone who's 6'2", 6'3", a guy that can play multiple positions, that can defend. You know what he's going to bring defensively, and you know right out of the gates you're going to have to put developmental structure around him. He might not be a guy that you just play right away. He might end up being a guy. I mean, you look at the Lakers if you want to look into them as an example. Austin Reeves, he makes the team out of training camp, gets a two-year deal, and a lot of guys can emerge, him included.

A lot of guys around the league can emerge in training camp in summer league, and that's going to be big for Bronny James. Wherever he ends up, I know of at least two or three teams outside of just the Lakers that want to schedule workouts and have meetings with Bronny James, but the Lakers have made it clear since the season ended. I know I've said it here as well. They want to bring back LeBron James. They want to offer him whatever he wants, a one-year max, a two-year max,

a three-year max. And in a perfect world, they want to potentially draft Bronny James, whether they have a late first-round pick. Could they move that pick? We'll see. But whether it's a first round, second round, they want to have the ability and the option to draft Bronny James. But there could be another team that we'll know

about in the next month or so that could emerge as well. That'd be so cool to see LeBron Bronny. He's been dreaming the whole time. He wants to play with his boy. Now Bryce, right? He's going to be... Yes, also Doe. If LeBron continues on this streak of somehow remaining healthy, fast, and

incredibly talented at basketball, maybe he survives all the way to Bryce. Okay. You know, maybe this becomes three Jameses on one particular team. Wow. Going to have to win the in-season cup for sure. Going to have to win the NBA cup. I'm not holding my breath on that.

I'm not holding my breath on that, Pat. Oh, Shams, what do you know? Yeah. What do you know, Shams? Two years max. I mean, I've said it on the show. I think the expectation around the league is that up to about two years max i mean i mean i've said on the show i i think the expectation around the league is that up to about two years now listen could lebron james say i want to play three years

i mean it's not out of the realm of us i mean he could play number 10 it's up to lebron james but he said it he said it like from a body perspective from perspective of like um how how long his body could physically hold up. I mean, it might reach four or five years, but mentally, emotionally, where he's at with his body. And then the other factor is, and this is something else I've heard recently, is that he knows how much people around him have sacrificed. His wife, his kids, his close friends, his loved ones. They've sacrificed a lot for him over these 21 years.

Could end up being up to 23 years that he plays in the league. And so pouring that back to them at some point in the next one or two years, I know that's a priority as well. Got it. 23 years. That makes sense. We play with Brawny. We do 23 years. Shut down the number remember? Now it goes back to the number.

Now we're all kind of piecing it together. The All-Star weekend is also in. in 2026. Just, I mean, just initially. It would be a full LeBron celebration. It would. It would.

Win MVP in his last All-Star game. LeBron in a dunk contest? Oh, here we go. Maybe both of them in a dunk contest. Maybe they're getting the trampolines like I saw the dunkers yesterday in between first quarter and second quarter. Throw it to each other. Yeah, flip, bounce the ball off the ground.

Flip, bounce the ball off the ground. Great idea. Oh, my God. And then I saw one guy miss, everybody else hit. They went like 9 of 10 yesterday on trampoline dunks. Not bad. We saw some nice drunks from Bronny in high school and college. So he can leap.

He can get up there. He can defend. The question is, how does he round out the rest of his game? Oh, Shams, you want to be an analyst? How many years do you think he's going to play? Have a nice 10-year career? Awesome. 12-year career?

I'm not putting any guesses out there. I'll leave that to other guests. Oh, okay. Let's stick with the draft. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Shams, draft order came out, and once again, it doesn't make any sense. I'll leave that to other guests. Okay. Let's stick with the draft. Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Shams, draft order came out, and once again, it doesn't make any sense. The Hawks almost go to the playoffs, and now they have the number one pick.

And I do believe Darius Butler kind of said this earlier, and I think everyone echoed it. I don't think anybody really knows anybody who's going to be drafted aside from Brawny, and he obviously isn't a top ten pick, so that's interesting. What's the deal there? Are they going to end up changing how they decide the draft order and does the nba just like us love to watch the detroit pistons being the biggest laughing stock in all of sports or is that just kind of how the cookie crumbles for them that's got to be a gut punch for detroit i mean back-to-back years having the number one odds to get the number one overall pick,

and you end up at five both years. I mean, I think they got Jaden Ivey, I think, at five. I think they got Asar Thompson at five as well. Asar Thompson, really nice player. He actually represented them on stage. They have some young players, Jalen Duran, Cade Cunningham, Asar Thompson. They just, you know, we know how last season went for them. I think the lottery is what the lottery is.

I don't see that changing anytime particularly soon. This year's top four is interesting, though. You look at number one, Atlanta. Alex Saar is going to be the guy that's going to be favorited there. I think they're going to look at other potential guys as well. Alex Saar. He's a star. Alex Saar.

Alex Saar. Alex Saar. Alex Saar could be a star. Could be a star. But right now he's a star. Alex Starr. Alex Starr could be a star. Could be a star. But right now he's a star. Eight times eight, guys. Wee-wee. Jean-Mappel.

Alex Starr. Je trais bueno a basketball. Le basquete. Yeah. Ooh. Ooh. Look at that. Look at that.

Look at that. Look at that. Well, listen. I think he's going to be in play at one. I think they're going to look at a few other guys at one. We'll see. The big question at Atlanta, though, is what happens? You know, the elephant in the room is Trae Young, DeJounte Murray. They already tried to potentially move DeJounte Murray at the deadline.

That didn't happen this year, this going into this offseason. A lot of teams are keeping an eye on Trae Young. What happens with his future? He said it publicly. He's made it clear privately he wants to win. He wants to compete. He sees his peers wants to win. He wants to compete. He sees his peers around the league. He wants to compete at a high level. And if he feels like the Atlanta Hawks aren't putting the right pieces around him,

there's going to be a real conversation there. And then you look elsewhere. Houston is an interesting—Washington, we know. I mean, I assume they're going to draft it, too. Houston at number three is interesting because that's the team. Ime Udoka, he got that team, I believe, 19 more wins, 17 more wins this season than last year. He's one of the best coaches in the league.

He has them really aiming to play in the playoffs this year. Could they make moves? I don't even know why Connor asked you. This draft is when? End of June? I'm just learning now. End of June. End of June draft. Two-day draft. Pat, I know you're going to I can't do it. End of June. End of June draft. Two-day draft.

Pat, I know you're going to be locked in. Yeah, maybe, but not now. No way. No way. You said Wemby? You had a Wemby update? Is that Trey Young? Well, Wemby is an interesting one because inherently the Spurs have this desire to go win, right? Because you have a player this generationally good, this generationally talented.

You want to put a winner. But he's also so smart. He's so focused. He knows it's a long-term game. The Spurs have so many options to get the point guard of their future. That's the position that everyone looks at with them to go get a wingman, to set up a guy like Victor Weminyama. They can go in the draft.

They can go in free agency. They can go in trade. They have a ton of assets. And Wemby took a short time off after the season ended. And I'm told he's been doing two-a-days for weeks now. He's been in the gym. He's been doing two-a-days. He's been getting ready. He's been fully immersed in the San Antonio

program this offseason. Not one. Not one. Not two. Two-a-days. Yeah. I hear that. That's crazy. Close. It's what, Shams? It was close. Hey, Wendy, let's make sure we're not wearing these knees up. He's going in the morning.

This guy's fucking 24 years old. He's going to the gym twice for an hour and a half. Like, are we going to? I mean, come on, Shams. Jesus Christ. Well, no, everybody does this. I mean, he might be any younger than that. I mean, he's 20.

He's not 24. Okay, exactly. He's dedicated. He's not. He's not. This guy's playing horse two separate times a day for an hour and a half full time. He's 20. He's not 24. Okay, exactly. He's dedicated. He's not. He's not. He's playing horse two separate times a day for an hour and a half. Whoa. Okay.

Whoa. I would hope he's doing more than horse. I would hope he's doing more than horse. That's basically what you just said, Shams. Come on. What the fuck are we doing, man? I would assume he's doing more than horse, but I do think. He's not resting on his yawnies, you prick.

Good, good. He's not spending his summer vacationing. He's not spending his summer doing anything else. He's locked in that gym and saying... That's his vacation. Okay. He's putting up shots. He's always on vacation in his mind.

That's right, because the universe has blessed him. And he has a sick shoe logo. He's going to be rich forever. Yes, he's an enlightened one. He is a phenomenal talent. The NBA is very lucky with him. Thank you for the updates there. Trey Young on a move. Wemby's doing two-a-days. AJ,

go ahead, pal. Shams, casual fans tell me that the Phoenix Suns, they don't have a whole lot of options in what they can do moving forward. It sounds like they don't have any draft picks. They can't really move, guys. What are they going to do these next couple seasons, I guess? Yeah, well, this is facts.

This is facts we talk about here. They have five players under contract now. They have Kevin Durant, Bradley Beal, Devin Booker, Yusuf Nurkic, Grayson Allen. They have a bunch of free agents, one of them being Royce O'Neal. They really want to bring Royce O'Neal back. So let's say they bring Royce O'Neal back. That's six players under contract. That's pretty much their top six in the rotation.

The rest will be rounded up by pretty much minimum type of players, guys that will want to go and compete. They just gave Mike Boonholzer, the guy that's won a championship in Milwaukee before. He's multiple championships in San Antonio as an assistant, multiple Coach of the Year awards. They signed him to a five-year deal worth over 50 million dollars so they gave him the bag matt ishvia think about how much how much he owes frank vogel about over

six million how much he owes uh mike booneholzer this upcoming season uh that's that's almost 17 million plus in salary for a coach this season so he's putting his money where his mouth is and and just to clear things up they have two first round picks that they can trade on draft night there's nothing obviously there's nothing to sneeze at so i i think there is this perception out there that they don't have assets that they can't make moves right now but they do have some salaries that are easily tradable they have a guy like nasir little who you can throw in a deal and they have two first round draft picks on draft night. So I think they will be very, very aggressive between now and draft night. Don't we think any team with Kevin Durant is automatically going to be good? That's what I think automatically.

But all the vibes out of the Phoenix Suns are like, no, things aren't good. He's saying we've got two assets still in the first round. They have a lot to fix. They do have a lot to fix. A lot of it has to do with their offense. Last season, it was a concern. The fact that Kevin Durant felt like he was not maybe being used the right way,

feeling like he was being in the corner. They're fucked, Shams. Just say it. They are so fucked. Their offense ran. Why? Well, listen, under the right coach. Who are we talking about right now?

Ant Edwards, who's 22. I mean, Perk brought up John Morant. They got a top-ten pick. Luca and the Mavs. in the Denver Nuggets. They're a bunch of fucking old guys that aren't playing well together, and they can't move any of them. And I know, Shams, you love Phoenix and all that bullshit. It's a great place.

I love Phoenix, too. Ishby is the man. He came in here. I get it. They are so fucked. Well, I mean. here. I get it. They are so fucked. Well, I mean... Yeah, exactly, brother. They have stuff

to figure out, no question. I mean, Mike Booneholder, the vibes that you get from Mike Booneholder, that's a coach in... Ooh, they had some good vibes. Hold on. He has the ability. You see what he did in Atlanta. You see what he did in Phoenix, but they have a lot to figure out. And if they can't get their offense right,

it's going to start a lot with the offensive side of the ball because defensively, I mean, the 10, 11, 12, 13, somewhere in that range for the majority of the season, they need to figure out a way to maximize those three guys because the idea of pairing those three together in a lineup is not saying this is going to be a defensive juggernaut team. It's to say there's no other team in the league that can stop those three guys when they're

playing on all cylinders. And they just were not able to figure that out last year. Let's talk about great offense. You know, maybe some fairy tales. Darius has a question for you, NBA insider. Yeah, NBA insider. I feel like you're the man for this job. I got a side quest for you, Shams.

You can, please. a man for this job um i got a side quest for you shams you can please can you get your hands on this wilt st berlin 100 point game because i'm seeing film highlights cut up from 1939 so if you can please first of all do you believe it happened and if you can please get your hands on this tape well if if everyone says it happened if it's in the record books i assume listen i have nothing against it so if it if everyone says it happened if the nba record book says it happened, if it's in the record books, I have nothing against it. If everyone says it happened, if the NBA record books said it happened, I don't have anything to the contrary. I know there is opinion out there. I know there's opinion out there.

There's a lot of conjecture out there. I don't know where the film is at. You know what, DB? I'm going to do my best. I know it hasn't been covered for decades upon decades upon decades, but I will put it upon myself. I'll do my best. Who's playing in these games?

The NCAA might be able to play in this game. Look at the crowd. Look at the crowd. Are they all in suits? All the fans are wearing suits. Can we go back? Look at the hook shot. They're clean. These guys can fucking hoop. They can't. All the fans are wearing suits. Can we go back? Look at the hook shot there. Clean.

These guys can fucking hoop. They can't. These guys are fucking smacking the floor. Get in that left hand, pal. That's a dime right there. No look. I don't know if you saw a little sauce in 19.

I gotta find the footage. DB, you just put a lot of... yeah, you put a lot on my plate, but I'm up for the task. Do a documentary on it, Choms. Do some journalism. Do some actual journalism maybe. I'll do my best. I'm on it.

I'm on it. You're the best, Choms. Thank you so much. Anything else we should have asked you about? Oh, yes. What about Zion? Yes. Okay, that was that that was

literally i've been on i've been on like five times in the last whatever weeks like zion come on that's like number one toppy this is a zion friendly show amen um i think we saw this season that you can build a team around zion being your number one guy you have proved it all throughout the year it just it just i mean as a fan of basketball, and on this show in particular, it did, I mean, it is a gut punch. To see the way he went down in the midst of, what did he have, 40 points? 11 rebounds. Biggest game of his year.

Biggest game of his career. He's playing the best game of his career. They had a great chance to win that game. And if they had won that game, the whole tenor of the Zion-Williamson conversation, it's totally different. But they feel like they can build a team there. The big question is, who are you surrounding that group with?

And David Griffin said right after the season ended, we are going to make changes. We're not going to be complacent in New Orleans. And so he kind of put the clock on the Pelicans to make moves around Zion-Williamson to make that team better. Two guys to keep an eye on, C.J. McCollum. He's got a few years left on his deal. But Brandon Ingram, most importantly, he's going to be an expiring contract

entering the last year of his deal, $36 million. Do they extend him this year? There was some frustrations with him in the lineup, in the offense. At the tail end of the season, he got benched in one of the playing games. He had an incident with Willie Green in the locker room where he essentially challenged Willie Green, like, get me the ball. Do your job. I need the ball in my hands.

Help me out. And so they have some stuff to figure out there. But this team took a step in the right direction. And, yes, I do think we need a fully healthy Zion Williamson. But if he is able to be healthy, you think about all NBA, you think about all stuff, those things are all attainable. You think about the shoes. You think about the billboards. You think about the bright lights. You think about all NBA, you think about all stuff Those things are all attainable You think about the shoes, you think about the billboards

You think about the bright lights You think about the titles, you think about the legacy You think about the photos of him with trophies It's just about health Just about health with Zion, that's it And health Did you say help or health? Well, health for sure

Because individually, the fact that he was able to propel that team, I mean, they could have won that play-in game, and they could have advanced late in the season in a much better position if Zion doesn't get hurt. So health is the most important thing. Health right after. All right. You're the man, Shams. We appreciate you helping us.

H&H. I love that. You're the best, man. You truly are. And thank you for giving us all the information that we need not only to survive, but to thrive in the sports media world. Also, if you can find that 100-point game

other than just a photo. We're going to stream it here. Okay. We'll go straight to the Hall of Fame, too. Ladies and gentlemen, Sean Friul. Happy New Year! too i think yeah ladies and gentlemen sean's rolling yeah right um let's let's not get to a break okay because the person that's joining us here in a matter of

moments he's gonna be throwing gas yeah have you heard about this aj no what's going to be throwing gas. Yeah. Have you heard about this, AJ? No. What's going on? I think I know. I think I might have an idea of who will be throwing gas, though. We'll make an announcement right now. This man right here will be on the program tomorrow. Yes. 110 Eastern Standard Time.

Boom. Hell, yes. In the screen. Can't wait to talk to Skeens, who went out there against the Cubs and just threw faster than anybody. 10 Eastern Standard Time. Can't wait to talk to Skeens, who went out there against the Cubs and just threw faster than anybody. He's already in the history books now. Had a couple ducks on the paw in the fourth inning, and obviously the Pittsburgh Pirates say, no, we're not going to let you work yourself out of this.

We're actually going to take you out of the game. An inning before you could even get a win if this thing was to go on and end it and maybe throw the splinker throw that nobody else has ever seen and cause double play and get you out of this. But nonetheless, Paul Skeens lit up all of Pittsburgh as a baseball game, stole the conversation in the Three River City because from warm-up where he played Charles Wesley Godwin's Q Country Roads, which is a perfect warm-up song for this particular man in Pittsburgh. I love it even more. But you got people all over Pittsburgh talking about this dude as if he's a Pittsburgh Steeler.

You know? They're talking, hey, big countries. He's fucking worth the price of admission. You'll hear the catcher's mitt pop. You can hear that thing in the fucking outfield. They're saying about this guy. They love him. I think everything went well except for the fact that he has a 6.75 ERA

now because when he wasn't pitching, two guys ended up in... Yeah, he only gave up one run, but there was two guys on when he got pulled. Next pitcher came in, threw underhand. Those two go in. Now all of a sudden he gives up three and four. They do the math because there's

nine innings. Nine divided by three, what's that times? 6.75 if he was to play the entire thing. He has a 6.75 year which is shit. Isn't that shit? That's not going to matter. One start. If he throws seven innings, his next start

and doesn't give up any runs, that thing's going to... Okay, good. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is Amanda Kabebe. Break down how this is going to work for Paul Skeen. I think he's got 24 more games to be played. If Sean, the mayor of Casey's numbers were accurate, and I watch this guy play baseball, I'm a baseball program watcher. Jet Passer.

Yeah! Good to see you, Jet. Gentlemen, how are you? I'm fucking great great the truth of this you are i you you care about baseball right now it's unbelievable like i love to see this like there was genuine excitement in your voice about paul skeens and about the pittsburgh pirates god bless that man for getting drafted there because you would not care otherwise. Amen. Amen. And I don't know if it's good for baseball, but I will say for me, it has been a nice added benefit to my life knowing that there's this massive fucking country dude.

Yeah. Who just started throwing a hundo within like the last three years of his life, four years of his life. And all he cares about is baseball. years of his life, four years of his life, and all he cares about is baseball. We told him about a zoo here in Indianapolis, which is literally right next to the ballpark in which he pitched for the Indianapolis Indians. That's their name, the Indianapolis Indians. There's a zoo right next door. He had no idea the zoo existed. The guy had no fucking idea. We're like, you can literally see the chimpanzee exhibit from the mound probably, especially with how tall you are. I didn't even know that because all he did was sleep and throw baseballs now he's in pittsburgh and everybody

knows the song and dance he's going to become great he's going to go somewhere else they're going to pay him hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars and he's going to be a success story but now that he is a pirate i would like to enjoy this because i feel like we're watching an actual potential history maker here right this guy can change the whole fucking sport, potentially. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to go... Sean Casey said he could throw 105. He might be able to get to a point where he's throwing 105.

Eventually. Eventually. He needs to add some muscle and then he can. He's not going to throw 105. You don't want him to throw 105. Yes, I do! That's what I like. I like balls thrown fast. That's what I fucking like.

And I feel like one leads to another. And if he's throwing 102, 103, he hasn't even shaped up yet. He hasn't even gotten to that Randy Johnson level of staggering presence up there on i mean it's just like this guy's good for baseball for me personally especially because he's a pirate now so it's a little bit closer and i got friends that went to the game and they're like you should fucking see this guy whenever he walks it's a whole thing go ahead pat here's here's why he's going to be good for baseball because over the last 20 or so years as the starting pitcher has become less and less important in baseball so we've seen more guys uh and more innings out of the bullpen um paul

schemes is a guy who you can look at on your calendar and say i'm gonna watch that guy pitch because i want to see something incredible happen there's not a lot of appointment viewing when it comes to starting pitchers anymore because frankly guys aren't allowed to go complete games guys aren't allowed to go past 100 pitches but this is a guy who went 120 pitches in the college world series this is a guy who wants to go deep into the game this is a guy who throws harder as a starting pitcher than anyone we have ever seen before and so even if you don't get the 105 you're gonna get think is is jacob de grom i mean when de grom was at his best when he was going out there uh you had to watch it because it was so good but that was new york this is a guy who's in

pittsburgh now and on top of that that, they've got Jared Jones in that rotation. And he's not quite Paul Skeens, but he is pretty darn close in terms of watchability. And the Pittsburgh Pirates, all of a sudden, with those two guys, have become one of the most exciting teams to watch in all of baseball. And they woke the bats up, too. You know, they woke the bats up.

I guess the wood for the Buccos had been off for a snooze for a while. You know, that's why they were 3-13 at one point through a 16-game stretch. But you see that big country fuck throw the ball 102 miles an hour. You can't help but swing harder. And I think that's what's happening over there. Look out. Look out. The Pittsburgh Pirates.

What? What? You think they're going? No. He's from California. You know that right I went to LSU Listened to Charles Wesley Godwin From West Virginia

Just because a guy's got a mustache And went to LSU Does not make him country does it Have you listened to his warm up song Have you listened to his warm up song Have you listened to him talk The Compton Cowboys Yeah they ride horses in Compton.

I saw that on Amazon Thursday Night Football. Boom. Marshawn Lynch was on the back of a pony in Compton. That's right. At a ranch. Nonetheless, country must be countrywide, pal, because all you got Paul Skeens listening to is cue country roads as he's warming up in the middle of Pittsburgh, this guy.

And he's just a fucking love ball. Throwing heat. Fucking love baseball. That's fucking all he does. He does. He's perfect for Pittsburgh. We'll never be able to. Let's say all works out well.

Okay? They trade him soon. Okay. See, that's what I'm saying. Just hold on. No, they're not going to trade him. You know what they do? No, they're not.

They're going to pay him $500 million? How does it work? No, no, no, no. They won't trade him. No, they're not going to trade him. You know what they do? They're going to pay him $500 million? How does it work? No, no, no, no. They won't trade him. No, they're not going to pay him $500 million. I don't think they're going to trade him, though. I really don't. I think you got – when you're the Pittsburgh Pirates

and you have the opportunity with a guy like Skeens and with a guy like Jared Jones at the same time coming up, that's a window that's opening. And if Bob Nutting, the owner of that team, does not go out and start spending significant money this offseason to build around those two. I know, you can laugh all you want. He just sold seven springs.

He's got money right now. He's got money. That's one of the best ski slopes in Tubin Hills in western Pennsylvania. He just sold it. He's got the money to pay. Hills in western Pennsylvania. He just sold it. He's got the money to pay. Bring in Shohei. All of western Pennsylvania. Sam Sprague's the real deal, brother.

Hell, he does. You get up there, you get on Tube, you know you're going to have a good day. No doubt about it. You know you're going to have a good day up there. Nutty ain't going to spend money, Jen. What do you think this is? What the fuck are you talking about? No, i think look i i think it has to happen at some point it just has to

or major league baseball should look at owners who don't spend money and the major league baseball players association should go and and frankly hold them accountable because especially if you have this opportunity with two guys like skeins and jones if you ever want to be seen as a real major league baseball franchise then you unequivocally need to step up and act like it when you've got guys like that and and it's on the pitts right now to do that. They're getting crowds there. They're going to have people coming to watch those games. They're going to sell their concessions. They're going to sell their park. They're going to do

all those things this summer. All the things that they've wanted. The crowds are going to be there. Baseball. Go out and reward them. Period. Okay. Amen. I like that a lot. Ty has a question for you. The Zambelli fireworks shows are about to be phenomenal. They might have.

What if they have Skeens throw a baseball to hit something? Like a WrestleMania stage reveal. Paul Skeens stands on the mound, turns around, throws it out to center field. There's like a target. Hits it. Zambelli fireworks show. Just have him throw it into the Allegheny

from there. Just throw it into the allegheny from there just have him fucking crow hop and just throw it into the fucking river so like he has the strongest arm in all of baseball right now i don't know i mean up there it's different if it's not if it's if it's not him he's he's one of the two or three strongest mason miller is probably of course gonna be stronger than that mason miller is the closer for the A's who's regularly throwing 103 and 104. He's likelier to get to the 105 than Dean. I didn't know this fucker existed!

The A's fucking suck, but this son of a bitch is automatic. I mean, if they have a lead and he comes in, game's over. 103? 104 miles an hour? Yeah, regularly. I didn't know that existed. He's very good.

Hopefully they continue to suck and they'll get rid of him at some point. Yeah, bring him to the Pittsburgh Pirates. Yeah, maybe. You got the Hundo boys to first. Let them play five innings, pal. Who's the skipper down there in Pittsburgh that I need to motherfuck for this entire thing? It's not Jim Leland. No, you're damn right.

Jim Leland will be on the same team. Skeens, do your thing. Let them play five innings. Isn't that the thing in baseball? Okay, can I tell you why that happened so the the reason that skeins is coming up right now as opposed to the beginning of the season well there are a couple of elements to it number one the pirates didn't really know how he worked they saw him for six and two-thirds innings last year after he got drafted and they wanted to understand you know

after an offseason what how his body is working what his preparation is uh and built him up slowly so that he could spend the majority of the season with the organization in the big leagues and not have to get shut down like steven strasburg did or like pitchers have in the past you remember with java chamberlain you know they would start and stop these guys. Pirates didn't want to do that. And so the idea was to build him up slowly. And, Pat, if the most pitches you've thrown over the first six weeks of the season is 75, going out there and going past 80, 85 into the 90, 100 range probably isn't the best thing to do.

You just need to have some patience in this situation. You're going to see a lot of Paul Skeens starts. And, you know, he has been on board with this. Would he have liked to have started with the big league team? Of course. Would he have liked to have thrown every inning with the big league team? Sure. But he understood that this is a progression. And, you know, we haven't seen a number one pick debut as quickly as schemes did, uh, in decades. Like that, that is how quickly he ascended and he looked the part. I mean, the stuff is about as good as you're going to find in major league baseball right now. Seven strikeouts, four innings, 84 pitches, and, uh, gives up two runs that he put on. I guess

the next pitcher did. So that counts again. I just learned what an ERA is this weekend too, Jed. Congratulations. Yeah, that's called an inherited runner. When you bequeath a runner to a relief pitcher, when you leave a runner on base, yes, bequeathed with a TH, when you leave a runner and a relief pitcher inherits it and you give up

what's going on here what's going on you say what did you say just so i can just so i can put this into my rolodex of words here b-e-q-u-u-e-a-tH. You need to be a little bit better with it. The T-H is the important. Thank you. Not what I heard. Yeah, I heard bequeath. To leave something to someone else. There you go.

Okay, so he bequeathed. Yes. He bequeathed two guys on base. But he could have thrown the splinker, double play. He doesn't. But this next guy comes in, throws the floater as if it's rookie of the year and all of a sudden those bequeathed guys

are in and now it's on Skeens' ass? I don't know how that works. I don't know how that works. I don't know how that works. But baseball, I appreciate it. You guys got to figure it out. You guys got to figure it out. Ty's got a question for you, Jet. Jet, at this point

of the season, what do you think the biggest surprise is thus far? Of course, stop. Just got some news. The guy throwing 103-104 is from fucking Pittsburgh. Of course he is. There you go. Of course he is. Look at all American heat over there.

103-104, sorry. Bring him home. Bring him home. You got to have him on the show, Pat. Like, this has been a baseball program lately. I had no idea this guy existed. He's from Bethel Park in Pittsburgh. The original home of the Pittsburgh Riverhounds. Bethel Park High School. This dude's 25 years old, right out of Pittsburgh.

Throws absolute gas. Don't look at the win-loss record. It's not about that. It's not about that. It's about how many closers, his winners, what the fuck is it called? How many saves.

There it is. This guy has. He has so many of the saves. Sorry. Go ahead, Ty. Matt Miller, Pittsburgh guy. Yeah, he is an absolute dog. Mason Miller.

Okay, Mason Miller. Even better, this fucking guy. You should see him. Matt Miller. You'll remember. You'll remember. He fucking throws it, doesn't he? Yeah, he does. He's a big leg kicker. He throws it, doesn't he? Yeah, he does.

He's a big leg kick. He throws it. He's got that leg kick. He really throws it. He said back in Pittsburgh in high school, he was just... He doesn't bequeath anyone. Bingo. Nobody gets bequeathed whenever this guy's out there because he's not giving up the ball

to anybody and nobody's getting on base. Sorry about that. Mr. Miller can fucking spin it. He does. He does. He fucking paints the black and he throws gas. I've laid eyes on him a couple times this year. He's an absolute dope.

He's got an intro song? What's that? He's got a cool intro song? He's fucking sucking. No one's there. I don't even know if they have a PA. Yeah, exactly. Oh, it's like a tree in the woods.

Exactly. I mean, I saw him and I was like, who the fuck is this guy? But yeah, he's burning him down the middle. Let's just say that. A Pittsburgh guy. I'm so happy. Jet, at this point, like, is there anything that you would say is, like, the biggest surprise?

It seems like all the teams who we thought were going to be good going in to this season are good. And, I mean, maybe outside, I guess the A's aren't terrible. The Nationals aren't terrible. But outside of that, is there anything that's really surprised you thus far? I mean, like the little KC on my shirt here.

The Royals are 25-17 right now. And the Twins are good. And the Cleveland Guardians are good. Like, I'm not trying to be the Midwest Homer here,

but this is a Midwest program. You have a lot of people in the Midwest who watch this show. Both Central divisions are very interesting right now with the Brewers and the Cubs as well and the Pirates holding their own with Skeens coming in now. I like Central time zone baseball right now. And I think there are a lot of good teams going on. And frankly, Ty, the Yankees are better than I thought they were going to be.

I'm not just trying to pander to you right here. Me too. They look good, and they're doing it without Garrett Cole. Bingo. And the fact that Cole is throwing now and working his way back up. If Garrett Cole comes back, that's starting pitching. Luis Hill, you can't take him out of the rotation. You can't take Clark Schmidt out of the rotation.

Marcus Stroman's been good. Nestor Cortez has been good. Carlos Redon's been good. As much as it's been the Aaron Judge and especially Juan Soto show, they have stayed healthy on the position player side, and their starting pitching's been nasty. And that's why they're 27 and 15 right now and you know step for step with the orioles let's uh let's stay in the pitching

realm but not really necessarily connor has a question for you yeah jet is there any update on the ipe mutsuhara and shohei otani deal we saw or heard last week rather about some middleman in california who was on the real housewives and is a husband to somebody who was getting money from it bay what's going on there and is he definitely going to jail for 30 to 50 uh yeah not 30 to 50 don't know how long he's going to be going to jail for but he did uh he did enter a guilty plea so he's gonna go to jail at least they're saying 30 years, maybe. We're talking maybe 15, right?

If you're taking a deal or whatever. A lot of that in jail. Yeah, I don't have details, honestly, on how long he pays going to jail. But the fact that he's going to prison, period, it's kind of a wild ending to this whole thing. Remember when this started? Remember that morning, Pat, that you found out about this? And it was a wild, wild unfolding of this story. And to think that as quickly as it happened, a guy would be ending up going to jail.

That is, it's such a, listen, I've talked on this show about, you know, the complaint and all of the information in that. But I will say, having seen plenty of situations that end up in jail time, this one wrapped up so quickly and so tidily. It's only going to fuel the conspiracy theorists out there who believe that. I'm just saying it, like it, it has all happened in like record time for, for criminal justice. Oh my God!

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It's good playing, Patrick. Let's go baseball. That one was tracking for the camera, too. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah, it was pretty good. Square. Yeah. I really pull. Yeah, it was pretty good. Square. Yeah.

I don't really pull or push much. I can go oppo if I need to. Oh, yeah, of course. That looked dead center. What's the furthest yard? What's the record? What's the course record here, huh? What's the course record? All right the course record here, huh? What's the course record? All right.

Jet, we appreciate you, man. Anything else we need to know about baseball right now? Seasons already anxious. There's lots of good stuff going on in baseball right now. How many games? Only like 130. How many games we got left? How many games we got left?

Like 130. No, 120. Sorry, 120. We're at like the 42 game mark. That's better. You're back in. 120 games left. That's it?

This is where it starts getting good, brother, when the weather starts getting hot. Skings might be going 110 in June. What? Yeah, when he starts getting real loose and he's sweating, he's going to be fucking that thing. One big country gets back into the humility. Exactly. It gets good. You got me. You won me over. I'll watch 120. He's got how

many games left? 24? Yeah, probably. Give or take. If he stays healthy. Hey, it was great seeing you on Monday Night Raw. Thanks for coming. The kid was awesome. Oh, the best. He loves it, man. And you and Cole just turning around during the commercial breaks and acknowledging and chatting with him made his day.

So thank you for that. Much appreciated. Now we're acknowledging you, Jet. And then obviously if he's with you, we'd obviously like to say hello. You and Cole are like best baseball besties I've heard. Oh, Cole was sending some texts to me last night. Michael Cole on the Mets is the funniest shit in the world. It truly is.

I asked him, when was the last time you enjoyed a Mets team? And I was thinking he was going to say like a year, you know, two years ago they were really good. Cole says 2000. I was like, it's been a quarter century since you've enjoyed the baseball game every single game 120 left or whatever it's every single game we'll be in the middle of a show we'll be in the middle of Monday Night Raw and the Mets will be playing and we'll go to commercial

breaking a mess or down 3-1 I'm like what are you talking about he's got it on his phone I'm like what is your problem these games don't matter you don't even know then he gets like upset at me he's invested. He's fully invested. Completely.

When you guys were in Kansas City, the Mets were throwing a no-hitter. I think it was through six or seven innings. And he turns around to me during the commercial break, and he's like, they're going to blow it. He just hates them. He loves them, and he doesn't believe in them for one second. And it's the most hilarious thing. And I just, you know, when he's texting me about this, I'm just like, oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Tell me more, Cole. Tell me more. And he just keeps going. I just get a riled up. Well, thanks for being his baseball therapist. And know that every piece of information you give him about the Mets, he's living and actually dying with. So you hold a lot of power.

You hold a lot of power in that man's head, Jet. Oh, trust me. I wield it with precision and to exercise the maximum pain. And I really enjoy doing that. That's good journalism. That's good journalism. Hell yeah.

Cole went to Syracuse. He gets it. Jet, we appreciate you, brother. Hopefully we'll continue to chit-chat with you. When's Paul's next start? Tomorrow? This week? No, no. A couple days. Paul's next start? Probably going to be Friday. He's on show tomorrow. 1-10 Eastern. Ooh, I will be watching.

What should I ask him? Ask him if he's country. Well, he's not country. He's fucking big country. We need good questions. We already know that. You know what? I'll send you guys well he's not country he's fucking big country yeah we need good questions what do we even already know that yeah you know what you know what i'll i'll send you guys some questions thank you we'll see if they're good questions glad to do it try to stay in the espn family much love no problem

but also you make us look better because we're asking questions that people in the baseball world you know ty normally does that but if we have access to talk to this guy you know at least give us some hey people would like to know about because all I'm going to ask about is I heard 105 do you think 105 that's going to be my questions you know just want to let you know so if you want to you know ballpark some things that are going on I would love to hear it but I'm not asking about youth baseball pitching numbers and everything okay no don't be too journalistic you know how I operate we're not that deep. You know what I mean? We're right up here.

You're a top-end journalist right there. I mean, we know you employ one, and Ty Schmidt, his breaking news efforts this offseason were tremendous. Yeah. Fuck that guy, okay? Yankees are good without him. I can't wait. I don't know if they play

interleague this year. I can't wait for that little sawed-off fucker to come to Yankee Stadium. He's been awesome so far. Why are you so mad at him? Why are you so mad at this guy? Because he's been great. He's been fantastic. He has been fantastic. But you know what?

I'll hold on to that first game in Seoul. I'll hold on to that one. Oh, yeah. The big guy. He's great. He gave up like fucking 8 runs in 2 innings Hey, guess what? He ain't playing in the Japan Baseball League anymore, pal

Or whatever the fuck it's called This is the MLB This is where all the big boys are playing So I get that you want to go play with Grandpa Shohei Or whatever the fuck Jet said the next day Oh no Oh no Oh no

Fuck a wine wine Cause guess what? the Yankees don't fucking need him I'll tell you what I do think he could sniff fucking Masahiro Tanaka's jockstrap and Jet knows that he might not say it but he knows that what this guy's a baller I think I think Ty would like to sniff Mazzi. Oh! Nailed it. Gladly. Gladly. I mean, Yamamoto did have the no-hitter alert the other night last week. He did. Oh, yeah, from MLB Network.

That was one of the greatest things I've ever seen in my entire life. Legitimately, my entire life. Did you see this, Jet? No. They go, no-hitter, before the game even starts. MLB Network, who I think is a bunch of hilarious human beings. How has he not seen this? They go, we have a no hitter alert before the game even starts

because they're taking on the Marlins, so I guess stink. So they're going, they have a no hitter alert here before the game even starts because of... Yeah, Yamamoto. Oh, and then did he give up a lead off homer? First pitch. First pitch, gone. It was literally within a 35 40 second

thing i i loved it i loved every moment of it and it's like all right baseball here we go we got a long summer 120 games left let's make sure paul skeen's pitching at least 70 of them yeah okay he will need that at least make it happen all right hey jet we appreciate you brother i'm i'm like uh i think three for five on homers with you on air so i appreciate you bring me luck oh listen it's all your skill, Pat. I'm just here to witness it. No, it's in between the ears. And what you do is bring me up, ladies and gentlemen, the Jet, Jeff Bassett.

Yeah, Jet. Before we get out of here on this glorious Monday, we covered baseball. We covered hockey. We covered basketball. We covered football. A.J., Ravens Chiefs, Thursday, September 5th, kicking off the 2024 NFL season when ratings are going to be bigger and better

and the game is going to be better than ever, A.J. That's what the NFL does. They give us what we want, right? They give the fans what they're looking for. I think this is great. That's why, you know, Roger Goodall and the rest of the squad, they kind of have their finger on the pulse. They know what the fans want to see.

They certainly do. And Lamar Jackson versus Patrick Mahomes, night one. And then we'll go down to Sao Paulo, Brazil, Eagles, Packers the next day. And then obviously Sunday kicking off the rest of the slate should be a fantastic start to an NFL season that we can't wait for. That's just 115 days away. And if you ever need to know the amount of days, you can go right to Boston Connors Twitter account.

It's right in the info. Yeah, it's right in the bio. You update that every single day. Every single day. We appreciate your service. Hell yeah. Almost there. I don't know if you saw it this weekend, but Derek Lewis knocked another dude out. His nickname's The Black Beast, and I think what his name should be

is a guy who doesn't move that fast, but carries fucking refrigerators off of his wrist boom bang pow and the ref said you know what let's make him eat another 10 shots from derrick lewis the guy with some of the heaviest hands in the history of the octagon most knockouts in ufc history he continues to add to that record he's 38 years old and said that he's in his prime and he's only getting better i think for the first couple rounds i actually watched the fight first couple rounds he was trying to like prove that he could be a grappler and maybe do some jujitsu and then his corner actually said to him hey hey let's just knock this fucking guy out what are we even doing then he goes out and goes all right i guess we'll do that just stands there casual hey casual casual boom dead see you later big win for the black beast

who we go on to take his uh shorts off and moon croc yeah that's right to a big ovation because he is must watch must see and i assume dana white is incredibly pumped that he is a part of the ufc i was lucky to catch it i don't know if you guys saw around the rest of the MMA world. Also huge in Poland. Really? KSW 94. KSW 94. There have been 93 others.

Greatest entrance in the history of fighting comes from our guy, Artur Spazilka. That's right. Spazilka comes out in a full tank. He's gassed up. He's attached. He's asleep. out in a full tank. He's gassed up. He's attached. He's asleep. Or is he in a coma?

We don't know. The doctors are walking him out. Is this guy going to be able to get woken up in time for his fight? He's coming out of the stage. Look at the lighting, the sound. This guy must be a stud. There's sparks flying. Wow.

Is this the best entrance ever? People are saying in a Polish language that we certainly can't speak. And then once he was all the way up, get me out of here, he said with his eyes. The doctors open it up and holy shit. Holy shit. Wow. He's awake. How?

He's been reborn. How? He is alive. He's awake. How? He's been reborn. How? He is alive. He's smiling. And he seemingly knows exactly where he is. He's walking to the octagon. What would happen?

He'd get his ass fucking knocked out in 14 seconds by Arcadius Urosic in the green. He just walked out normally. Got some ads on his back and on his chest. Says, excuse me, buddy. I'm going to send you right back to the fucking gulag. Head off the green. He just walked out normally. Got some ads on his back and on his chest. Says, excuse me, buddy. I'm going to send you right back to the fucking gulag. Head off the mat. Knockout. Dead. Put him back in the fucking thing.

Seal. Royal watch. Ad on his back. Monster at KSW. 94. 14 seconds is all it took. Took him longer to get out of the fucking thing. It did. Than to get knocked out by the mat

in which he was thrown off the ground. He was literally spiked off the ground and knocked out. I don't like it because I like the showmanship here of Arter's Spazulka, but it was a better pre-fight than an actual fight for Spazulka on that particular reason. Did he ride back in his transportation afterwards?

What did he do? I'm not sure. I am not certain. I saw those two clips back to back in the group text from Bailey McComas. I see the first video was his entrance. I'm like, Bill must have meant to send this to his like, my money, MMA

baddies, or whatever the hell. Bill's group text. The 100 T's. Yeah, 100 T, whatever it is. to is like his fine buddies mma baddies or whatever the hell yeah the hundred t's yeah 100 t whatever it is so i look at this and i'm like this is a pretty dope fucking thing i get caught i get like sure mesmerized by it i'm like this is sweet i like the way he eyes closed the entire time he bought into the bit there was no he didn't he never opened his eyes is he is he cryogenically frozen is that what's going on there? I guess, right? He's going to look cold. He didn't have enough time to thaw out. Well, I think my favorite

part, like at some point you'd open your eyes to see if it's all working. Are we done yet? The amount of faith and trust that he had in everybody else was well warranted, I guess, because they executed it perfectly. And then everybody says immediately, well, it's hard to train for a fight when you're fucking frozen you know yeah no point guy missed out on training but he made a hell of

an entrance i don't know what's worth more at the ksw 94 but i think at least the entrance should win and maybe performance of the night and then he gets his head thrown off the ground first time i've ever seen a mat knock a dude out yeah me too i mean i'm pretty sure the mats over in poland are a little harder well you think they're tougher? Yeah, I think they use concrete. Are you going to tell Dana White that his mats are getting their asses beat by Polish mats? No, because I don't think that's good for the UFC. If they're getting knockouts on mats, I want knockouts on fists, of course.

Yeah, like. And kicks. And dergloves. Bingo. Bingo. He was like doing wrestling shit. He was really doing it. He was down.

The other guy, I think, is a pretty good grappler. Had him down. He was doing wrestling shit. He was really doing it. The other guy, I think, is a pretty good grappler. Had him down. Derek was just eating elbows for a portion of it. He didn't even care. God, I walked over to his corner. His corner was like, maybe we just...

He literally just walks out there and does it. It was awesome. UFC is every fucking week. It's every week. And then right after this was Top Rank in Perth, Australia where the ring announcer announced the wrong winner.

Yeah, correct. That was pretty cool too. It was a great night of fights. It was a great night of fights. I just got a text message from J.J. Watt, I guess. Sorry, it was a tweet. Not much of a challenge. Crossbar challenge from J.J. Watt. Oh, soccer?

That's not bad. I mean, that's certainly not bad. That's not terrible. Not a bad little leg swing there from J.J. Okay. Not bad. That's not terrible. Not a bad little leg swing there from JJ. Okay. Not bad. I think he should feel very comfortable going into Com K Foots. Ah, cop down there, TST.

Mm-hmm. He's going to score a bunch of goals. He is. Nice. That's actually pretty good. Thing is on a rope. That's not bad, huh, Gumps? Coach Gumps?

Yeah, that's pretty good. Pretty impressive. First try, probably. Yeah, let's give him a call. That thing's moving. That was on a rope. Wow. Bam.

Breaking news! Breaking news! Antoine Winfield Jr. is now the highest paid safety in the NFL. A deal has been completed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Antoine Winfield Jr. We had Jason Light on last week, and he said, that deal's getting done before i go on vacation pretty much yeah and here we are on a monday having it be announced congrats to mr winfield jr who obviously has been playing since his rookie year wins a super bowl is a veteran

is beloved and jason light said he's a future hall of famer he's going to get paid as one congrats on 45 million dollars guaranteed that's a huge move down there aj that jason light was alluding to yeah he's one of their like foundational pieces on defense the guy came in from day one and has been a star and when the gm is on a program like this and says hey yeah he deserves to be the highest paid safety in the league i think he's the best one you know it's gonna get done sooner rather than later and sounds like it was pretty much almost done when jason light was here antoine winfield Jr., one of the best safeties in the league, obviously. One of the best DBs in the league. And play like he might be the highest paid DB.

What, four years, $84 million? I know $45 guaranteed, but he can do everything. And that Todd Bowles defense, he can blitz. He can cover. He can play the deep part of the field. He can tackle in the open field. So he's everything you want at that position. Great to see this deal, especially when kind of safeties have kind of been devalued at the position.

So great to see Winfield get paid. To your point, AJ, him coming on here saying he's a future Hall of Famer and he's going to get paid is one. His agent was like, oh. They must have had that thing. Who do you think his agent is? It was locked up. It was locked up, yeah. It's got to be Mulgata.

Yep. Is it? Okay. All right. Everybody, Mulgata. Does it again. Yes, he does. Another one. Everybody, Mulageta. Does it again. Yes, he does. Another one.

In some sweet shoes. He's wearing the sickest shoes available while getting these deals done. Congratulations to Antoine Winfield Jr., Mulageta being a dog, and Jason Light seemingly having this thing done. Now, let's get back to the video that we watched of J.J. Watt being an athlete. Joining us now, from Dick's House of Sport, J.J. Watt. Yeah, J.J. J Watt JJ what's going on you doing cardio right now just finished up half gassers remember those

I do I just got a terrible feeling in my stomach and my mouth started to sweat as you mentioned is this all for TST training right now yeah yeah man I'm just trying to make sure I don't go out there and do anything dumb so I'm preparing the joints, the ligaments, the muscles. I have no idea what's going to happen, but I just want to know that I'm prepared.

Okay, well, and that's J.J. Watt football and J.J. Watt football. What was this? When's this from? This doesn't seem recent. This was back whenever you were in England? No, no, that wasn't that long ago. That was probably a couple weeks ago, I think. Kay and I went out to Phoenix Rising

Stadium. Appreciate them letting me use it. We did some crossbar challenge. I played some keeper. I got some more footage that I'll bring out. From that one day? Yeah, from that one day. I don't film in my backyard every single day. I don't have

a full camera crew on staff despite how much the internet thinks I do. You can get a tripod and put your phone on there. That's what I do. You can do that. There's no way that's what you do. You've got like 45 guys in your building. Exactly what we do. 45 guys.

We've got 14 on our team. What's everybody else doing? I don't know. Editing podcasts? Coaching up a fucking team? What's everybody else doing? I don't know. Editing podcasts? Coaching up a fucking team? It's after hours, brother. What are we talking about? We got a coach in here now. What are you even?

I saw you at the Pacers game. Suns out, guns out. Everybody just so excited to see the Mac man in the building. It was great. Not everybody. There were some people that were pretty bummed out. But it was great to be there. How many takes on that?

Because the leg motion looks pretty smooth thank you no crossbar challenge is one thing that i can uh i'm pretty pretty proud of my skills and it took a couple takes obviously but not many i think that was my fourth try um nice the way you did it was like inside a foot like kind of a bending ball normally crossbar challenge people do like a little chop like a little riser so i appreciate your kind of take on it i thought i thought it was i thought it was a phenomenon i didn't expect that to be on while i was watching for the first time i'm like he's very big like very big did not play soccer growing up but obviously incredible athlete and you're very humble but you gotta let fucking people know every once in a while. I appreciate that. I like, there's definitely a part of me that wants to be super confident going into this TST. Like,

I think I'm going to surprise some people with my skills, but man, then there's that part of me that just feels like, you know, freezing cold takes coming back and I'm just going to get absolutely destroyed. Freezing cold takes good people, obviously. Love what they're doing. I don't think any of us should be confident. I don't think any of us should be confident at all, JJ. I think at this point... You think, I mean, but there's also that part of me that's like, maybe we'll

win it. Maybe we'll just go out there. You can win it, JJ. You can do it. Think how big you're going to be compared to everybody else. Tough group. You're going to look so big on that field. Huge. Thank you, AJ. Thank you.

If you'd just pull down. Motivational speech to my team before the game. They'd enjoy that. I can't do it to your team. I'm against your team. I'm concave for the squad. Oh, you're on concave? No, no.

I'm not playing. I'm just support. Support. Yeah, we got a team. We're the hooligans of the concave team. We got drum bangers. The concave ultras, brother. I'll bring a Vuvuzela. Boomooligans of the Concava team. We got drum bangers. The Concava ultras, brother. I'll bring a Vuvuzela.

Boom. You know what they have? Yeah. Vuvuzela, yeah. Boom. Vuvuzela. Yeah, that thing. I'll bring that.

JJ, you think your team is going to be able to handle AJ with a Vuvuzela? I don't think so. No chance. I don't think so. He's got to learn how to do it with the new teeth, man. I know. It takes a little while. I'm going to start practicing. When you're trying to how to do it with the new teeth, man. It takes a little while. I'm going to start practicing.

When you're trying to say the S's with the new teeth, you sound like an idiot for a little bit. That's how I find it anyway. Have you done any of this? Have you done any? Oh, yeah. What do we got there? Exactly.

All right. Nope. That's what I guess, sir. That's all she wrote. You got three weeks. I'm trying to make sure these hammies stay alive. What requires me to do that in North Carolina? What?

What you were just doing. That's a cross coming in, and that's you heading the ball. You see? It looked a lot different the first time you did it. What are you alluding to? What are you talking about? What does that mean? What are you insinuating, JJ?

I didn't say it. I didn't know what it was. I didn't know what it was. I said this guy should be president. And here we are. Oh, my God. I don't have to work on that because literally I just rise up above everybody and it just donks in.

I also like to divide my head for headers. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's good. All right, you're going to do great. I love it. I it i mean you're gonna call me my hair's a disaster right now oh actually it looks good oh presidential pretty presidential all right we appreciate you ladies and gentlemen jj why you're here hey hey hey hey oh whoa whoa whoa whoa is he still on call him back call him back yeah unfortunately him back. Yeah, unfortunately. We're going to have to do it.

We're going to have to. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. We're going to have to do a moment of silence. Yeah. Damn. It happened, AJ. But we all saw it happen.

We all saw it coming down the road. It was a nail in the crossbar. What do you mean? JJ. What happened? Yeah, what? Moment of silence for Burnley FC's time in the crossbar. What do you mean? JJ. What happened? Yeah, what? Moment of silence for Burnley FC's time in the

Premier League. Thank you. I thought I was going to scoot through without discussing it. Moment of silence. It's a moment of silence for your team.

Sorry, I got the black cap on today. That's why we got the black cap on today. I love that this is what ESPN lets you use the airtime for. I appreciate that. Moment has passed, even though you are disrespecting the moment of silence that we're having for your team. Bud? We don't need a moment of silence.

It's a moment of reflection, learning, and improvement to come back even better. No need to hide disappointment or frustration. It should hurt. Boys made a valiant run the last few months. Just wasn't enough in the end. Now we go again to the championship, looking to relive

these brilliant memories from one year ago. We go together. Up the clarets! That's the type of leadership we like seeing. Thank you for doing that, JJ. That's good shit out there. I'm sure the Burnley Faithful were pumped. I mean, it was a tough day. There's no question about it.

I mean, the Premier League's a tough league. The three that went up went down. It was difficult. But looking forward to the championship. Last year, obviously, when we started to get involved with the team, we were in the championship, and I really enjoyed it. We obviously had a lot of success there, so I'm looking forward to hopefully repeating that success again

and having a lot of fun days ahead, which will be a lot more wins to discuss on this show hopefully next fall. Up the Clarets. How come fucking Tyler and the dudes aren't saying anything? How come JJ's the one that's always taking it on the chin? Everything's too perfect over there, huh? What the fuck's going on?

Some dude down time. You gotta live with the good and the bad. If I'm gonna be there on the bus when we win, I gotta also be there when we're at the bottom and figuring things out. I'm with us all the way through, bitch. Did they lose when he was in England, Gump? No, they actually never lost when he was there. Oh, huh.

Might have to go full season championship. You came back, you sack of wine. I thought you cared about this team. I wish they played in the summer so badly because I'd go live there all summer long. I really would. It's perfect. Arizona in the winter, London in the summer.

Get over to Burnley. It'd be great. What a perfect setup that could be. You could do a Kid Rock remix all summer long. Oh, yeah. I still want to get the boys over. One time, we'll take Pat's big jet and we'll all go fly over to Burnley for a match and we'll do a show from Turf Moor.

The owner of Burnley is flying us over there. That's great news. Sounds like you're paying for it that'd be sweet i can find the jet for sure but you can you can certainly pay for it all right we'll do that you got to connect you actually do i got to talk to the people at espn uh because the championships a lot of the games are put on espn plus and uh i want to make sure we get a maximum slate of burnley games on espn plus next year hey that's business. Yep, putting that in the atmosphere. All right, who would be in charge of that?

The ESPN Plus people that are in control of programming. Who's that? But the NHL, they just have every game, so I imagine it's the same for the championship. You guys, yeah, every game, right? No, they pick like one game a week to put on. Oh, come on. One a week? I obviously have, like, we have an owner stream,

so I can watch every game from anywhere in the world. But they, for, like, fans that don't want to watch, you can only watch whatever they put on. So let's just get as many as we can possibly get on ESPN+. That'd be great. I'll talk to the right people over there. You apparently have the best ratings on the planet, so I'm sure you got some polls.

No, no, no. Yeah, we want to log into the owner stream. That's what we think we should be promoting. Yeah, log into the owner stream. So we're all in. It is a great stream because it's got our it has our local broadcast team on it. Oh, the lads. Yes. They speak into those microphones that are

sideways. Yeah. Love that. With the little cover over the top. Yeah. Are we going to park the bus ever when we have a fucking lead? I hope. Is that going to happen? I mean, I mean. This is the thing, though.

This is the thing now, JJ. You got Vincent Kompany is going to play how he did the last time you were in the championship, and you'll get back up, but we have to learn from this. Kompany. That's coach. That's coach. I love you. I love you, JJ.

Keep in mind, I love you. Are you going to park the bus at TST? No, I can't. 7-on-7. Don't you worry about it, Pat. Don't worry about your own plan. Don't worry about my clipboard, brother. Yeah, and you have to win on a goal. You know, a goal, you have to score to win. It's called target time scoring. Yeah, which you should know.

Yeah, you know the rules? I do know that. I learned it from you guys. I was just looking at the rule sheet today, actually. Literally was. Okay. Alright. Ladies and gentlemen, the owner of Burnley, part know the rules? I do know that. I learned it from you guys. I was just looking at the rules sheet today, actually. Literally was. Okay. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, the owner of Burnley, part of the championship, JJ Watt. JJ!

All right, let's get the hell out of here. We appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. They have been relegated, Doc. Yeah, they have. You know it was a question. So all three that bumped up last year all got bumped down again. I did hear him say that. It's normal, you know, because I assume.

It was setting up so nicely, though, because went up one nothing on tottenham and nottingham forest was down so they lost as well it was setting up for burnley nottingham forest final day and burnley would have had a chance to stay up somebody snorted into a living room was that you aj i don't think so. No, I wasn't snoring. Same asshole disrespects Lionel Messi and Bones. That guy. Yeah. We know who it was. I hate to break it to you, pal, but Lionel changed his name to Lawrence Messi, and he's going by Larry now.

And he plays for the United States of America. Yeah. And listen, I respect fucking Coach Jim Bones more than anyone on the face of the earth. So just slow down with that. Let's get out of here. This show sucks, dude. Hey, PGA Championship this week. We'll be off Thursday, Friday.

This week? Yeah. But where we will be headed is the Mecham Auto Auction. Amen. We will be headed there. We'll be watching PGA Championship, obviously from Valhalla. Got Rory hot going

in there. Scotty hot going in there. Brooks hot going in there. Tiger Woods is going to be all the way back. He's going to win. Rombo, Bombo. Why not a good time for him to come back and say, you know what? Yeah, I am the big dog in Spanish. There's a lot of opportunity. Maybe his

irons get hot. Block he's playing? Yeah. I hope Block he misses the cut so bad. So bad. What? Why? You know what? I want them to be dedicating

Saturday and Sunday to the guys who are going to win and who everyone wants to watch, not like, oh, this is great, Blocky's back. He's eight over right now, but he made the cut. Let's go check with him for the next six holes. I'm done with that fucking shit, okay? I want to watch Scottie. It hasn't happened in a long time.

Yeah, that's why. Once is too much. Yeah, that was awesome, wasn't it? Take that moment and get the fuck off the golf course. Sorry. Blocky doesn't deserve this. At all. I bet Blocky's a good guy.

Blocky's a great guy. He is. Blocky's a good guy. He is. Likes to have a good time. Absolutely. Just because he's a great guy doesn't mean I want to fucking watch him on Saturday and Sunday at the PGA Championship. To be clear,

I enjoyed watching Neil Shipley with Tiger Woods. That was awesome. Tiger Woods. Me too. Exactly. They were doing the Tiger Woods treatment

for Blocky. Which, I mean, can you blame him? I couldn't. It's a shoe fit. He's a superstar. How soft his hands were. His hands were soft.

Think if he drove the ball 320 every time. 320? 320 is 358 where he drew it. Yeah, he wins the Wells Fargo. These guys probably, these dudes are driving the ball so far. Yeah.

Because I thought they were trying to do things for them not to drive the ball as far. Isn't that currently happening? They're trying to knock the ball down. They're trying to make the ball dead. Yeah, they're trying to slow them. These motherfuckers are hitting it 400 yards. I don't know how it's happening.

It is. It's incredible to watch, but I'll be at Mecham Auto Auction. Yeah. Here in Indianapolis. Yeah. Dude, this thing is fucking lightning in a bottle, brother. Is that where you bought the Wrangler? Yeah, yeah.

I went back. I didn't pull a trigger on anything. I was like, let everybody know. Close. I was actually going to buy my wife a car for Mother's Day. I was going to get a sweet Mother's day ride because her car is currently in the middle of about 10 different issues that we got to get fixed so it's like i'm gonna go to meet them something's gonna come through that'll be there was this truck that had flames on the

front still thinking about it still thinking it was jacked up super jacked short truck short bed yeah it was it was the rocks truck from walking tall but it was it was orange with yellow flames on it i mean it was incredible it turned the corner for this auction we go look at that thing holy shit holy shit steal the show there was a 2009 dodge neon we almost bought for talk because i heard talk don't have a car yeah that thing got up to 17 000 bucks we're like no way are we doing that. 2009 Dodge Neon. There was a Chevy Monte Carlo from maybe 98 or something like that. Had the official pace car painting on it from the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

So sick. That thing went for like $7,000. And then there was a Bronco that went for $185,000. And then there was a Ferrari that goes for like $210,000. It was spectacular. so much fun the show awesome the auctioneers are fucking showmen you know they're out there doing it and then you it's a museum of the nicest cars you've ever seen and just one after another after another and then the fucking custom truck comes through yeah and it's like wait a minute then there's an f-350 that's

got fucking duallys on there's the truck. You didn't buy that? How did you not buy that? Believe me. I could not buy it. I said the same thing to him. How are you just sitting here watching all these cars go by? Connor said that like six different times. He said, I have no idea how you are.

I stared at this truck for like 10 minutes outside. It's unbelievable. I would have been a million dollars if you left with the car. So it is. Thank you for saying that i'm romantic and uh love my wife this was a day before mother's day i could not just show up at the house with a brand new v8 truck but if it was not if you would have gifted that to her that would have been pretty look at this thing this is always for you dude it was so i love it we're there for three

hours i did not expect us to be there for as long as we were and they took care, thank you so much to Matt and I think Zach and there's a Seth in there and Morton was in there, there was a great group they Curing Kids Cancer I believe

is a foundation that they do an auction we literally just sat down and this lady tells the story of her son passing away to leukemia. And then they said like 4% of money that's raised goes towards kids cancer. So she started something, they raised 29 million and they do, we do it like an auction and they're like,

all right, who wants to donate 10,000? And I'm like, I don't know what's going on. 5,000. They go 1,000 and everybody's hands goes up sweet. And then they got points because 2000, I'm like, yeah, sure. I'll go to 2000. He goes 2000. I'm like, I don't know what's going on. $5,000. They go, $1,000. And everybody's hands goes up sweet. And then the guy points to me and goes, $2,000? I'm like, yeah, sure, I'll go $2,000.

He goes, $2,000? I'm like, oh, shit, I'm in a game now all of a sudden. And then $3,000. And they're rolling around. And then the guy looks at me and goes, $4,000? I'm like, did I just donate $2,000? And he's like, no, no, we're auctioning up. I'm like, he's like, what do we need?

He's like, you got $4,000? I'm like, for that? Like, for kids' cancer? They're like, yeah. I'm like, yeah, I'll get $4,000. No, they're like yeah i'm like yeah i'll give i'll get four no i'm out i'm out i'll get four like it's like me in a conversation with the person that's like handling my bidding to the actual auctioneer and he's like four thousand you have four thousand for kids cancer i'm like yeah i'll give four thousand bucks for kids cancer and then uh they go sold all right i, I want a gas station light up. Thing, yeah.

I hear what it's called. From Mecham. Pretty neat. That was as we sat down. It was great. As soon as we got in the room, holy shit, welcome to the room. Here we go.

It's all alive, though. There's people bidding in the fucking top. There's people on the internet. To the internet! $125,000 to the internet! Next car, pay $147,000. You got a nice 2004 Chevy Rev.

This thing's got a V8 underneath, brand new dealers. Now it is a little bit old inside, but it's nothing but nice. Let's start out with $30,000. We got $30,000. Then nobody bids. $20,000. Nobody bids. Wait a minute, we might be able to steal one here. Then they go $15,000.

That fucker works all the way back up to $60,000. Just powers through because all the sharks in the back are trying to like, nobody bids. It's like, wait a minute, we might be able to steal one here. And then they go $15,000. And that fucker works all the way back up to like $60,000. Just powers through because all the sharks in the back are trying to like, we're not giving away how much we're willing to spend on this. It was a wild fucking Saturday. So much fun, though. Legit. That entire setup that they have. We talked about the stage.

It is monumental how big that goddamn thing is. It is so much fun just to go. And you mix in a couple Jack and Diets, it never hurts either. Yeah, we had a couple beverages. Jack and... Don't say it. Don't say it.

AJ, I texted you. And what? Jack and Diet what? You have to let the people know. I texted you immediately, didn't I? From Mecham, I texted you. Great text to get, yeah. Just say it.

Just get it over with. Tastes great, right? They deserve to know. They do. Jack and Diet Pepsi is better than Jack and Diet Coke. It's not, but I understand where you're coming from. It is. I love it. It's sweeter, for sure.

If you love the booze portion of Jack and whatever you're drinking, Jack and Diet Coke is just fine. Okay. I understand what you're drinking. Jack and Diet Coke is just fine. Okay. I understand what you're saying. Jack and Diet Pepsi is certainly sweeter and tastes maybe more like just a regular sort of pop. I'll tell you what. Those are going down smooth. We're watching these cars fly by.

The best Jack and Diet's I've ever had are in front of me. I got an entire day. I'm buying my wife a car here. This is awesome. And then that fire truck comes by. And it really stops the whole show yeah true there's a fire they're selling a fire truck no no the fire flames yeah my bad my bad i think like legit but does this is this just strictly cars are they selling like tractors

and cool other yeah golf carts yeah they got an entire ball they got two barns full they got two barns full of i mean it is they're here nine days. It's the second largest show we got. Kiss Me Florida is our largest. That's coming up in a few months. That's 79 Bronco. That's 79 Bronco there. The Bentleys don't go for a lot from what we've been learning. That 2008 Bentley convertible, there was a similar.

It might have been 2007. I think it went for $29,000. So automatically think to yourself like, okay, that sounds like a good deal, but why is nobody in here bidding on that? You have to start looking into. And I think it's because, remember the Bentley we had, the air conditioning didn't work. Yeah. Nothing.

Do you remember? Oh, my God. 73 Bronco. Yeah. That one right there. Wow. That thing's going to go for $195,000. Yep.

That thing right there. Wow. Because they got all these car- You got a lot of fucking money in that room. And then there's people sitting on the phone and on the internet. It was alive, bro. You get caught up in there quick, two, three hours.

And then we went out and saw the cars that weren't even going up on that Saturday. They're saving for later in the week. Some of those are even better. Look at that 95 Chevy Impala Supersport. Up. Boom. Look at that bad boy. that thing would have been bought with the quickness or or wait go back the one next to it yeah the fuck that's the one yeah that's the one that boom seven nine yeah right there that

looks like talk i'm telling you it's a fuck it's a good time it's like a museum of cars just coming through and then they'll mix in like a a fucking hilarious one yeah just for the you know i think they get it i think they get it them and uh oh 90 96 mirawatu mirawatu van that's gonna need that see like i like there's little i like there's little uh tiny trucks right there that 2022 dihatsu, whatever you say it. I don't know why I've always liked them. The high jet dump?

Yeah, dude. Yeah, just to have it around the yard. Use it around the yard. How about the 1996 F-Me RX-7? Honda Civic Shuttle, if you want to go back to high school in the late 90s. Is that Nick's Mitsubishi? It might be. The Lancer? Is that what it looked like everywhere

dude it was wrx okay that's on me that's a subaru bro hand up hand up all right let's get the hell out of here if meekum comes your town which i think it's once a month i mean it's worth a walk through it's worth a walk through it's like we saw that thing actually yeah yeah we saw that in the one of the lots yeah waiting for thursday oh yeah yeah old school yeah two miles to the gallon but head turn yeah mm-hmm good luck on the general too so the general was beaten well yeah the general's about to sink all of his kids his college funds into a sword from uh i think was it the civil war oh yeah what was it yeah that was his heritage brother yeah it's from like his town and he's ready to basically cut off an arm to get that thing

which good luck to the general respect there was a chevy truck that was really or a chevy uh what was it do we remember looks like a bronco. Chevy. Oh, uh, the... It was good. I almost bought it. There was a couple things I almost pulled the trigger. Yeah. But can't be going before Mother's Day and show up with a gift for yourself. No. Look like a real asshole. Smart move. It was difficult for a couple of those things,

though. Like the Scooby-Doo van right there. Of course. You know what I mean? Yeah. Saw that thing. It's souped up yeah that's going thursday i can always to get there on thursday i'm to go back we might pull a full we might pull a full day at meekum on thursday these are sweet dude i'm telling it's you just walk through these just rows of sick cars and then you turn the corner and there's a whole another barn pretty much here's 2017 vetter stretch limousine all right talk

that could be your every day that was featured in pitbull's green light music video wow okay that's one of my favorites of his absolutely probably pretty easy parking that thing downtown too that was another big part of the issue basically 67-74% of the cars that went through within one block of leaving the state fair those tires are all gone

just because I mean they're full on moats in some parts. I drove downtown this weekend, obviously. Brutal. For the game. It's tough. I don't know how anybody with, like, sport cars survive.

Yeah. Legitimately, I have no idea how they survive. There's potholes everywhere or what? Everywhere. Craziest part is that it's better right now than it was two months ago. But you get caught, which is wild. and thank you to whoever's fixing them, and good luck while you try to do that. There's even some spots where you can't even avoid them

because you try to avoid them. So many people have avoided them. There's potholes in the avoiding spot. Bingo. So then there is – Yeah, there's replacement potholes already. Then you've got cars coming the other direction. It's like it's a real –

I don't know how anybody drives like a non-SUV or truck out here. Legitimately, I don't know. So that took away a lot of the cars that went through that looked really cool. It was like, that's a sick car, but that thing's dead before I even get it home. So you need an SUV or a truck, which is why that Fireflame struck. Oh my God.

Yeah, it's a bummer. Did the bid go on on that? The bid is going on. The bid's still going on? I don't know if it still is now. No, I cannot confirm. But the bid was on on that? The bid is going on. The bid's still going on? I don't know if it still is now. No, I cannot confirm. But the bid was going on on Saturday. The Thunderdome might need a...

Still going on. The bid's going right now? It's currently at $30,000. Okay, that's where it was on Saturday. We won. No, no, no. It's after Mother's Day. The bid is not gone.

I think someone just bought it. I don't think you can bid on it. Oh, it's gone. That's a shame. That's a shame. Happy nobody bought that. The bid is not gone. I think someone just bought it. I don't think you can bid on it. Oh, it's gone. That's a shame. That's a shame. Happy nobody bought that or somebody did buy that. Yeah, they'll enjoy it. Yeah, it's gone.

Kitty's back. Keep that updated. He's roaring all over the place. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah. I thought you were talking about someone on the TV over there. Yes, he is fucking jacked up right now, brother. I cannot wait to go watch these videos, dude.

I'm so pissed. Let's get out of here. Monday Night Raw tonight in Greenville, South Carolina. Fucking good one. We got more King and Queen of the Ring tournament matchups. Let's go. It's going to be a big one. It's only 74 degrees down there.

I assumed I was going to go get cooked in South Carolina. Not so much. I just assumed it was 100 and very humid already. Me too. I woke up this morning mentally preparing to potentially die in South Carolina at night. Turns out 74 degrees should be perfect. Can't wait to get there. Oh, no.

Okay. Zeno's giving me updates on the kitty. Yeah. All right. Let's get to a... We'll be back tomorrow. Tonight should be awesome on Raw. USA Network, 8 p.m. Eastern. Zeno's giving me updates on the kiddie. Yeah, I know. All right, let's get to a... We'll be back tomorrow. Tonight should be awesome on Raw. USA Network, 8 p.m. Eastern.

Also this evening, got some big ones. Celtics take on the Cavs in game four of that series. The Celtics are up 2-1. Thunder taking on the Mavericks. Mavericks are up 2-1. Mavericks at home. Okay, Mavericks at home. Favored only by a point and a half.

Will SGA and the boys be able to get in at Big D and tie this thing up? We shall see in the NHL. Rangers can take care of the Hurricanes. And obviously, that would be something that would be great for the city of New York and the fans over there because the Knicks are about to get knocked out by the Pacers. And also in the NHL, Stars taking on the Avalanche. Good luck to your Avalanche. They're down 2-1 in the series, AJ.

Are they going to be okay? Yeah. We're back home. We're at home. We'll be all right. We're road warriors, brother. Texas hockey, best team on the road all year. Sorry about it.

In the regular season, yeah. And that playoff. People say it's maybe about the A.A. Center, but I'm not going to say that. They're not favorites. How's Jack feel? Jack feel good? Paws feel big? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, in whatever year he's been playing,

yeah, he says he physically feels great. 20 years, 21 years, whatever it might be. Jeez. He's trying to get 23. He should. Just like Bron Bron. How about 23 years? That'd be a big thing. Yeah, I know it'd be cooler is that if he built it up like he was going to do 23 the whole time, and then he said, you what, I'm going to come back for 24.

Yeah. For Kobe. And then after Kobe, he'll say, I'm going to come back for 25 like the moose. Yeah, exactly. I want to be like moose. He won't say like quarter of a century. He'll say. No, I want to be like moose.

Moose. And that's the show. We did it. Truly a good one today, boys. You should really take a bow. We really did. I don't know about that. Today, we really did.

Not from us, but... From all of us. Austin Rivers just sat right in the pocket. He's awesome, man. I like him a lot. I do, too. I'm a serious shoot fan of Austin Rivers. Universe likes him. Oh, shit. I'm a serious shoot fan of Austin Rivers. Universe license.

Oh, shit. I got to shoot up. Yeah, Kaelin Clark, up and out. There you go. And that's going to happen a lot. There it is. Oh. Oh, you got robbed.

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