The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1129 - Fast Talking Tuesday With Mecum Auctioneer Matt Moravec, Brian Windhorst, PK Subban, Paul Skenes, Julian Edelman, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

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Starting point is 00:01:24 We want out! We want out! Sport! Sport! Sport! Sport! Sport! Sport! Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this Fast Talking Tuesday, May 14th, 2024, this sports program starts now. Sports! Our wonderful, as are auctioneers. You know, we just had the incredible opportunity to see Matt Moravec, Mecham Auto Auctioneer, do his thing. We got to hang out with him all morning.

Starting point is 00:01:55 24 years he's been auctioneering for this Mecham Auto Auctions. And I'll tell you what, if you've never been whenever they come to your city, you need to go. I am mesmerized by the show that they put on. I'm a car person, so I obviously don't mind seeing $730,000 vehicles kind of strut in front of you. And then right afterwards, a jacked-up truck with fire flames on them and a V9 engine somehow. Instead of a V8 going in front of you. Then a three-wheeler. Then a quad.

Starting point is 00:02:20 Then a Lambo. Then a Ford Bronco from 1995, two years after. Sure. Same color. The famous. Infamous. OJ Simpson Ford Bronco. Then it just never stops all day. They've been here for I think four days. They've got five days left here. Nine days worth of just cars

Starting point is 00:02:39 coming across the thing. Memorabilia collected. It is. It's awesome. It's a museum. It is a blast. Matt has been an absolute stud for us taking care of us since I literally met him a few years back. Thank you to him for opening it. By the way, that was sports. He covered everything going on in sports right there. He did.

Starting point is 00:02:54 And he even gave a countdown. I think it was a minute and one second. He said it was a 30-second countdown, so he certainly lied to everybody immediately upon starting. But that was fantastic, and sports are amazing right now. We've got playoffs happening, obviously, NBA, NHL. We're going to keep up with that. We've got stories building in the NBA around LeBron James.

Starting point is 00:03:10 What is he in Cleveland for? Is he going back home? Is he going back home? Maybe. What about Bronny? He hits 12 straight threes. Now, a lot of people are saying, wow, that guy's taking forever to shoot that ball, but all I'm seeing is the ball go into the bucket.

Starting point is 00:03:22 I thought Bronny couldn't shoot. Everybody says he's going to be great on defense he can jump obviously high but his offensive efficiency not that great look at how many points he scored a usc it's like well at combine just yesterday we saw him bury 12 straight threes feels like he's gonna be on a head start too to potentially get on a team because whose dad is so we're excited to kind of ask windy yeah in seven minutes to tell us everything about everything. Obviously the NBA had a great night of playoffs last night. We also have the

Starting point is 00:03:48 amazing, old bastard P.K. Subban joining us fresh off a birthday. He's had a full week to celebrate his birthday. ESPN let him not take work or not work for a week because he's celebrating a 35th birthday, I do believe, or something like that. Happy birthday to him. Paul Skeens will be joining us in the second hour,

Starting point is 00:04:06 obviously to chit-chat about what he's doing in Pittsburgh, which is saving baseball potentially for an entire city that I think would love baseball if the team was worth a damn at all. Paul Skeens is coming back, bringing a little bit of magic. We'll chat with him in the second hour. And then Julian Edelman will join us in the third hour to talk roast, talk football, talk Tom, talk life, talk his podcast, Games with Names, which is obviously fantastic.

Starting point is 00:04:28 And we're lucky to be here chit-chatting about NFL news, obviously, every single day. The Talks at Table is here. At Boston Corner, at Ty Schmidt. Con man, no dogs today, just bears. Yeah, that's right. Bruins all day. I mean, yesterday, you know, some fans wear their jerseys to prove to people that they're, you know, fans of a team. Some fans wear them when it's actually game day.

Starting point is 00:04:46 And obviously, you might not know because this is an old McAvoy jersey. I've had this for quite some time. He's got the A on his now. But I feel great about where the Bruins are at. Down 3-1, backs against the wall. What's going to happen? We're going to find out tonight. But we know what the big rig is saying.

Starting point is 00:04:59 We've got to win a hockey game, okay? So that's what we're looking for. And, you know, the Celtics obviously took care of business easy last night. Now, the Rangers were up 3-1 over the Canes. And obviously last night, now it's 3-2. Wait a second, New York. Uh-oh. Uh-oh, big city.

Starting point is 00:05:14 Not good. Yikes. You've got the Pacers traveling to town, too. Big bad wolves are coming to town. After winning by 40, you've got the Rangers potentially going to blow a 3-1. Seriously? No way. They can't.

Starting point is 00:05:24 We were just talking a little bit ago, a couple weeks ago, or maybe last week, I guess. The Rangers are now going to be considered a team that started 7-0 in their playoff run. There's been 11 teams in the history of the NHL that have started 7-0 in their playoff run. Eight of them would go on to win the Cup. Oh, no.

Starting point is 00:05:42 Three of them would lose. Are the New York Rangers about to make that four out of 12 people that have gone 7-0? I saw a man named Jim Kelly last night. He's a bald guy. He used to work for the New York Police Department. Now he's part of security at WWE. And, boy, he's riding high with how good the Knicks have been. Indiana Pacers are killing him.

Starting point is 00:06:02 How good the Rangers are. Hurricanes may be turning this entire thing around. Jim Kelly and everybody else from that big suit city might be swallowing a couple, you know, oh no's. If they ruin this entire run that was supposed to be fantastic and majestic both on the ice and on the hardwood for New York, this Hurricanes team is not going to

Starting point is 00:06:19 give up. And obviously we get nothing but respect for this Rangers squad. I like the way they play. I like their toughness. I like their skill. I like how they've come around. And they're more experienced than they've ever been. And maybe this is the year they get going. But this Canes team ain't going to go down without a fight. They ain't going to go down. They were the odds-on favorite to win the Stanley Cup starting

Starting point is 00:06:35 the playoff series. I think they were reminded of that last night, especially in a back-against-the-wall must-win situation. Now that series is at 3-2. Here we go. The only team that could potentially be a big dud in this particular series would be the Boston Bruins if they were to lose 4-1 to the Florida

Starting point is 00:06:51 Panthers. But that obviously is going to change this evening, or will it? Ladies and gentlemen, nine-year NFL vet, massive Florida Panthers fan, has been for the entirety of his hockey fandom. Darius J. Baller. 1993. Here we go. Biger. 1993. That's right. Here we go.

Starting point is 00:07:05 Big game. Big closeout game down at Sunrise. Reservations already made at Elbow Room. Big game. Talked to Moose yesterday. He talked about how important this game five closeout game at home. So it'll be tough. Bruins will show up, I'm sure.

Starting point is 00:07:18 But I got all the faith in the world and the boys. I said the Bruins could be the only team that make this boring. But obviously, stars are up 3-1 over the Avalanches. Well, yeah. Big night, big night. Texas, hockey. Starting to feel like 99, boys. Starting to feel like 1999.

Starting point is 00:07:35 Wow, we got people taking real deep trips to celebrate something again. A long time ago. That is a long time ago. Not as long as you sorry asses up there in Detroit. I know. One of those teams that started 7-0 actually lost to the Detroit Red Wings in 2008. Do you remember who that was, Pat? Who was it?

Starting point is 00:07:53 I think it was the Pittsburgh Penguins. One of the teams? No way. All right. No other one or another. And then what happened? Yeah, then next year what happened? Hosa came and said, hey, you know what?

Starting point is 00:08:05 This thing's all over. And then he went to your team and won. And then he won over Chicago, I next year what happened? Hosa came and said, hey, you know what? This thing's all over. And then he went to your team and won. And then he won over Chicago, I believe. They won there, too. So he's quite a miracle worker, that guy. One half of the hammer. Done. Cowboy's tone.

Starting point is 00:08:15 Digs his back tone. We missed you yesterday. You look fantastic, pal. Second best cowboy hat on the program today. Yeah, by far. Matt had his summer cowboy hat on. I'm still wearing my felt winter because, you know, temperature in here is always nice and perfect. Cold, you said.

Starting point is 00:08:30 No, I said nice and perfect. I like the way you described it. I do owe a couple apologies to New York Rangers fans and Minnesota Timberwolves fans. Since we did the better jump on the bandwagon. Full announcement. Full announcement, yep. Neither of those teams have won.

Starting point is 00:08:45 Those teams are completely defeated since we did the jump on the bandwagon. Don't miss the Yukon Huskies train. That kind of happens sometimes in sports gambling when you start talking about things too much. Those old gambling guys. We're talking immediately afterwards. We're talking as soon as it was said, gambling gods said, that's cute, and then changed fortune quickly.

Starting point is 00:09:06 Two different sports, two different cities, two different teams, all because of you potentially. Yeah, you have to say these. You feel pretty good about yourself if you think you're the reason why two different sports, two different teams, two different cities. Well, you can't completely rule it out, can you? Not with these gambling gods with the way they operate. Like if Cowher was the one doing the siren down in Carolina. Who did do the siren? Not sure.

Starting point is 00:09:30 The head coach of the NC State rowing team, right? Oh, yeah. He got a good crew team there. And they came out. Boys were flying when they saw that. John Cebowski did it? Is that? You know, he doesn't know.

Starting point is 00:09:40 That's the head coach of the rowing team. No, he's not there anymore. He went to Harvard. Yeah, Duke. Oh, wow. He's moving up in the world's the head coach of the rowing team. No, he's not there anymore. He went to... Harvard? Yeah, Duke. Oh, wow. He's moving up in the world. Yeah, I think so. Anyways, we didn't know who the hell was doing this thing.

Starting point is 00:09:50 It's a playoff game. Yeah. Let's get Bill Cowher on that if we need it. Exactly. Especially if we need to knock off the evil New York Rangers. For the good of everybody. You did ruin their fortunes, potentially. But that can always change.

Starting point is 00:10:00 That could be another heater that we could potentially ride. Like, for instance, the Boston Celtics. Are they all the way back? Have they figured it out? Are they going to go ahead and just murder everybody all the way through like they were supposed to do until they lost at home to Spida Mitchell a couple games ago? Yeah, that's a problem.

Starting point is 00:10:13 It feels like, of course, they're going to. They're going to stroll into the finals. But when you look back on it, it's like, okay, heat without Jimmy Butler, Cavs missing Donovan Mitchell. It's not their fault, but it's just there is now no excuse. And, you know, if it ends up being the Knicks, if it ends up being the Pacers, the Knicks are banged up, and then the Pacers, what? They also

Starting point is 00:10:30 have kind of gotten a little lucky because the Knicks were banged up, and then Giannis and Jalen Brunson. So for both, or excuse me, Dame Lillard. So for both of those teams. Dame Lillard played in the elimination. Yeah, like Mitchell. He played a couple games, missed a couple, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter. The Celtics are just knocking these people down as they come at them.

Starting point is 00:10:48 Is it their fault that they're beating the shit out of everybody and that they're better than everybody? No. But people will definitely bash him because of how easy it has been. The NBA feels like, at least in some situations, I guess, I can't just paint a full broad brush because I'm not paying attention close enough to everybody, but this is a war of attrition on the East. If you can survive, if you can remain healthy, you're going to all this stuff to everybody, but this is a war of attrition on the East. If you can survive,

Starting point is 00:11:05 if you can remain healthy, you're going to be in a good spot, which is why I think the Pacers are so damn optimistic. They feel very good about how they're playing right now, the health of their team right now. Obviously, there's people that are banged up. You're this late into a CE at 82 and then now a full playoff run. Nobody's going to be

Starting point is 00:11:22 at 100%, but it's like, who's the healthiest? Seems to be a massive advantage in the NBA playoffs. We need to keep an eye on that whenever we're gambling. For real. That's always the case in sports. Obviously, your Bruins are banged up. Hockey, baseball, football. Yeah, I saw Ruedock game five.

Starting point is 00:11:38 It's tough, man. You took a shot, playoff hockey shot. It is tough. I hate seeing guys get injured and you want to beat teams at their best, but it's part of the game. Joining us now is not in the NHL,. It is tough. I hate seeing guys get injured and you want to beat teams at their best, but it's part of the game. Joining us now is not in the NHL, and he is healthy. He's better than ever. We saw him this morning in his on clouds doing a full-on set. We couldn't hear everything he was saying,

Starting point is 00:11:55 but he was saying that good shit. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, ESPN legend, man who played high school basketball with LeBron James, Mr. Windy, Brian Windy. Yeah, Wendy! How are you, brother? Hey, man, I just had a weekend in Indy. My first time in years.

Starting point is 00:12:10 Okay. How was it? Okay, so Indy was awesome on Saturday night. It was beautiful weather. There was some concert of a group I'd never heard of at the field house. Come on. We got prom was going on. We got dozens of very happy couples moving downtown.

Starting point is 00:12:26 But we got something to happen in downtown India since last time I was there. A big setback for the city in my mind. What? And I found out the hard way. The bums? Steak and Shake ain't open 24 hours anymore. No way. That's not real?

Starting point is 00:12:41 Is that real? Downtown Steak and Shake. The heartbeat of the NBA beat writer for decades. Oh, no. Locked up. No way. That's not real. Is that real? Downtown Steak and Shake. Heartbeat of the NBA beat writer for decades. Locked up. I was set back. I was set back. I'm still recovering from it. Okay, this is the... The booze bags of Indianapolis are kind of in shock as well.

Starting point is 00:13:00 That used to be, you go out downtown, and then you all just kind of yep take the pilgrimage just take a shake and that could be 2 33 34 i think kyle bush and i were in there at 4 45 a.m one time yeah getting a nice burger uh one of those melts you know one of those melts with like texas bread or whatever yeah you bet and then they got in and the fries with cheese oh yeah, yeah. Two types of couples going to prom on Saturday night. There were the couples

Starting point is 00:13:30 that were going into St. Elmo's. You know, they were in a good spot in life. And then there were the couples who filled steak and shake to the brim later on that night. Those are the people

Starting point is 00:13:42 I wanted to hang out with. Instead, they were saying, no, Wendy, get your fat ass out of here. You can't come here at midnight. That's unbelievable. Hey, Steak and Shake, enough! Be who you are. You can't afford to be the people that close up at midnight

Starting point is 00:14:00 and not have it. We're supposed to host the biggest events. You know why we're able to do that? Not only because everything's connected and you can walk everywhere, but because Steak and Shake is serving smiles all day, all night. I'm mind blown, Wendy. I think you might have caught it on a bad night. Maybe some, huh? I saw it several nights.

Starting point is 00:14:20 Listen, maybe on Saturday and Sunday. But, you know, they play Pacers games on non-Saturday. That's it. That's it. That's it. That's the one. Locked up tighter than a drum Thursday night when I got in there. Tighter than a drum. There's a petition as far as booze bags in Indianapolis, and let me just say it was not received well, and they do close it now.

Starting point is 00:14:37 It's bad. We all like to apologize for that. Obviously, Wendy, by the next time you're here, we're going to find a cheap burger place that will stay open all night for all of us. Let's talk about some of the stuff that happened here. Obviously, when you're in town, the Pacers beat the shit out of the Knicks. The boys are going to ask you about that. That is a great thing. I like where we are as a city for a potential parade coming to town.

Starting point is 00:14:58 Obviously, the West is doing its thing. Let's talk about the news that wasn't in the playoffs that happened last night. It involves the family that SportsCenter's Instagram account has been kind of focusing on for the last four years. LeBron James goes back to the Cleveland Cavaliers. He's sitting courtside, standing ovation. He's got a bottle of wine under him, some water, a coffee, having the night of his life. The city of Cleveland goes bananas for him. Well-deserved.

Starting point is 00:15:22 Just a kid from Akron. Hell yeah, bro. Just a kid from Akron. Well-deserved. Now, obviously, after he left, there was some stuff between the bananas for him. Well-deserved. Just a kid from Akron. Hell yeah, bro. Just a kid from Akron. Well-deserved. Now, obviously, after he left, there was some stuff between the ownership and him. I assume that's all the way. Why was he there? Do we know why he was there?

Starting point is 00:15:33 Was he getting Jersey retired or something, Wendy? What was going on there? I will give you the answer I've been given, and you can decide whether you believe that. I was told that it was Mother's Day weekend. Actually, it was Monday, but okay, Mother's Day weekend, and Savannah and LeBron came back to Akron to see their moms, and so they were in town, so they took in a game. They were the guests of Dan Gilbert, the Cavs owner.

Starting point is 00:15:57 The carpet was worn out. Now, here's the thing. So he gets there. I don't know anything about wine. I don't know if you guys are wine guys. We're at Shake and Shake at 3 a.m., pal. You know. I think that speaks for itself in terms of me.

Starting point is 00:16:10 All right. There was a bottle of wine under his seat, and I saw it on Twitter X. It had something written on it. I need some sleuths. Well, I needed, like, that CSI where they go, enhance. Enhance. Because, you know, like somebody took a picture of it and you could see that was written. I want to know what was written on it, but there was a bottle Opus one waiting for him. He, you know, here's the thing about

Starting point is 00:16:34 LeBron. If you know anything about LeBron, the fastest way to piss him off is to be late. This is a man who is obsessively on time, but he was late. He didn't make tip-off. He came in strategically, some might say. Some might say it was traffic. I don't know. But came in during the first timeout so he could make a grand entrance. Look at me. He did it on purpose. Wendy, watch your mouth, Wendy.

Starting point is 00:16:58 Look at me. You better watch what you're talking about to King, Wendy. King's entrance. Whoa. I was told that his agent, Rich Paul, called the Lakers earlier in the day and was like, hey, listen, just so you know, LeBron's going to be going to the Cavs Celtics game tonight. No big deal.

Starting point is 00:17:13 Just don't want you to be caught by surprise. Ten years ago, as I'm watching the game, two things are happening as I'm watching the game. First thing, I'm thinking about ten years ago when he was a member of the Miami Heat, he came to a Cavs game, flew over from Chicago on a private plane because his

Starting point is 00:17:31 longtime teammate, Zydrunas Logauskas, was getting his jersey retired. It was an off night. The Heat had a game on Sunday afternoon. He flew over and I was told at that time, doesn't mean anything. Just respect for his teammate. And a few months later, he signed there. Okay.

Starting point is 00:17:56 The second thing that was going on was I was having NBA general managers text me back my own meme. Text me back my own meme going, what's going on in Cleveland? What's going on in Cleveland? So while on one hand, I think LeBron is always strategic and I do believe that he wants to remain a Laker and I have been told that this was no big deal. He was just in town to see family. It does make you wonder

Starting point is 00:18:19 because he knew that he would be on all the shows being today, wonder what was going on. Well, he's LeBron James. Everything he does publicly is going to be talked about and speculated upon. Whenever you say LeBron James flew private, I think you just get rid of the – I don't know if he's going into – Southwest. He's going into the airports at this stage.

Starting point is 00:18:38 Congratulations, by the way. Good work, Bron. Very expensive. Obviously, let's take care of the ozone. Let's take care of the ozone, this entire thing. Let's talk – let's go a little bit deeper here. Now, he can opt out of his contract, obviously, with the Lakers. He has until June to do as such,

Starting point is 00:18:49 I do believe, from our last conversation. Where do the Cavaliers sit in draft? Because now, obviously, Sham Sharani, a friend of the program, he's talking about how the Lakers have basically said they're okay with drafting Brawny if that's something that would not only entice LeBron to stay, but also if it would make their team better. And obviously, they're okay with drafting Brawny if that's something that would not only entice

Starting point is 00:19:05 LeBron to stay, but also if it would make their team better. And obviously they know he went to USC, grew up in LA. It could be a perfect situation for both parties. I think you said second round or late first. What are the Cavs' draft situation? And is that falling into any of this thought process

Starting point is 00:19:21 that you're having about LeBron getting a warm welcome back in Cleveland whenever his future is potentially still in question well first off bronnie had a great day yesterday the first day at the combine you know we really hadn't seen him play for months um he shot the heck out of the ball uh you know he didn't shoot well at all at usc shot terribly from three point range now grant Now, Grant, these are drills, but he really impressed scouts. He went 19 to 25, and this drill here was second best, and that was very impressive. Secondly, he has really added some weight. He probably played at USC 195, 197, weighed in at 210, and definitely had added muscle. He did measure in bare feet at 6'1.5".

Starting point is 00:20:06 He was listed at 6'3 at USC. I don't think anybody actually believed he was 6'3". You NBA people lie all the time. The NFL tries to make people as small as possible. The NBA is like, let's put two socks on. Let's get some shoes on. We want

Starting point is 00:20:22 them to think these guys are as big as possible. The NFL is like, we want them to be as tiny. Well, nobody in the NBA is 6'9". They're all 6'10". Nobody in the NBA is 6'11", except for Kevin Garnett, always said 6'11", even though he's like 7'1". Nobody's 6'1". I'll bet you won't see one player in the NBA listed as 6'1".

Starting point is 00:20:43 They're all 6'2", if not 6'3". I love that. I love that. I wish we could do that in the NFL. I would have been 6'3", bombing balls. It would have been fantastic. Yeah, but it was a really good day for him. And I think he is, you know, we'll see, starting to do scrimmages tonight.

Starting point is 00:20:58 I think he's trending towards getting drafted. Now, you asked me about the Cavs and the Lakers. The Cavs have the 20th pick, I believe, in the first round. 20-21st pick. Lakers have the 17th pick. I am not a draft expert. I am not going to sit here and BS you and tell you I've watched film and all these guys. To be honest with you, I got so much going on

Starting point is 00:21:16 with the playoffs. Most of these guys who get drafted, I'm not going to have seen them play. I learn them when they do summer league and when they get to the NBA. We don't know anything. Alex I'm not going to have seen them play. I learned them when they do summer league and when they get to the NBA. I'm not going to. We don't know anything. Alex Sars got a B.

Starting point is 00:21:29 First five guys. Never heard of him. I actually have seen. The guy who might get picked first, Zachary Richichet. I actually have seen him in person. That was a strange one-off. I'm not going to try to pretend like I'm a draft expert. That said, the experts I talked to think that Bronny is a good chance

Starting point is 00:21:47 Bronny's going to get drafted. I don't think he'll be a first-round pick unless somebody's making a move. But I'm also going to tell you that anybody who says they know what's going to happen with Bronny right now, they're just guessing. Teams don't know him. Teams haven't got a chance to hear from him. So this next week and then workouts over the next three weeks, we're going to know more about him. Teams haven't got a chance to hear from him. So this next week and then workouts over the next three months or the next three weeks, we're going to know more about him. You ask me that question

Starting point is 00:22:10 in a month, I'll have a better answer for you. So yes, the question is, does drafting LeBron, does drafting Bronny might make you have a chance to get LeBron? Is that something the Cavs or another team would consider? So Rich Paul, his agent, is on the record. This is not whispered, sourced, and said. Rich Paul, his agent, is on the record as saying that that's not the case, that they're going to try to get Bronny into a place where he can worry about his own career, that that is not something that, you know, you draft Bronny, it doesn't mean you're getting Bron, et cetera, et cetera.

Starting point is 00:22:40 But I assume most of us are fathers or some of us are fathers. Hell, yeah. We know what LeBron has said. LeBron wants to play with his son. Now, I don't necessarily know if that's going to happen this year. I don't know if he would walk away from the team. I believe firmly he's going to end up back with the Lakers. And the Lakers are going to give him the contract he wants.

Starting point is 00:22:59 They're going to try to make a trade to improve the roster. And they might even draft Bronny. But we know LeBron wants to play with him. Whether or not it works out, I don't have an answer for you today. Let's just wait and see how things go. Oh, Wendy, you're supposed to give us unreasonable answers. I know. I know.

Starting point is 00:23:14 All right, see you guys later. I'm sorry. Hey, go away. We'll see you at Stake. Well, it's probably not even open. No. While I'm talking about Indiana problems, if the Pacers win two more games, okay, conference finals in Indiana goes over Indy 500 weekend.

Starting point is 00:23:33 I mean, what you guys are trying to get through hotel rooms, we're getting a little out of control here, folks. There's 300,000 people coming to the city. It's Indy 500. There's 300,000 people coming, the city. It's Indy 500. There's 300,000 people coming, Wendy. All right. All right. I've done this before.

Starting point is 00:23:49 When the Heat played the Pacers, I learned all these rules about Indy on Indy 500 weekend. The race ain't on TV. It's 1947. I don't understand why. Yes! The race aren't on TV. The race isn't on TV. Everybody listens on the radio. That's what I learned.

Starting point is 00:24:07 Secondly, on Monday, apparently there's a seven-hour banquet with all the racers. And that is on TV. And if you want to watch the other NBA playoff game and you're in a bar, good luck. You've got to wait until after the banquet is over. No, no, no. So now, that's on NBC

Starting point is 00:24:23 I do believe. So now it should be where the rights are. No, no, no. So now that's on NBC, I do believe. So now it should be with the way the rights are. No, no, no. No, it's not the channel. They wouldn't change it. They said no. The banquet stays on. Well, Wendy, we need to hear from the person

Starting point is 00:24:37 that came in third to last. Yeah, of course. 8,500. Their race ended quick. We didn't even get a chance to hear their sponsors. They got to get up there and talk about winning. You won $14,000. You paid for two nights at the Courtyard by Mary.

Starting point is 00:24:54 Let's talk about the playoffs, shall we? And let's stick with that particular series. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Wendy, in terms of Mavs and Thunder. Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah, it's all me. All good, all good. Indy, in terms of Mavs and Thunder, it seems like for whatever reason, Kyrie and Luka are not on the same page. In terms of neither one of them are both having a good night on the same night.

Starting point is 00:25:15 Last time you were on here, you said Luka, you were a little bit worried about whether or not he's actually 100%. I think it's fairly obvious that he's not. Are we concerned now at this point? Because after the last game, it looked like, hey, Mavs, they're going to be just fine. They're going to take care of the Thunder. But now that's kind of turned a little bit. Do you expect the Mavs to, you know, Kyrie and Luka to both play well on the same night? And are they going to be able to take care of the Thunder? Or the Thunder, you know, potentially going to run away with this one? Well, I thought so. You know, they were up like six or seven points at home

Starting point is 00:25:45 in the fourth quarter last night. I mean, what's the chances of the Thunder going on that run to end the game? Now, I have big respect for the Thunder. Shea Gildas Alexander is a killer in clutch time situations. He did it to him again last night. Luka, okay, so Luka is not playing well. He had more turnovers than baskets last night. He was grabbing at that right knee the whole game.

Starting point is 00:26:09 It also has to do with Lou Dort. Lou Dort put Brandon Ingram through hell in the first round. He is putting Luka through it now. That said, nobody's stopping Luka if he's right. Like, even if you've got a great defender and you're putting on the health defense, Luka, I think it's a combination of great defense from the thunder and lou dore as the head of that and luca's just not right and even kairi here's something else the thunder are kind of baiting the mavericks into passing the ball to their role players and the mavericks are kind of taking the

Starting point is 00:26:42 bait pj washington he's been making all these shots and it's been awesome. He's been celebrated. But last night, he had 19 shots and Kyrie had 11. That's a win. I mean, you know, obviously the Thunder had some egg on their face when he was making them in games two and three, but they didn't change their strategy. They stuck with it. They're focusing on those two guys.

Starting point is 00:27:02 If they're going to get beat, they're going to get beat by the role players. And it didn't work last night. At the end of the game, they couldn't get a basket when they needed it. Chet Holmgren, beast inside. The Mavericks are 1 of 14 shooting when he's the defender last night. So, like, I think the Mavericks at their top end are the better team. But I don't know about Luka. He looked bad in game one, looked much better in two and three,

Starting point is 00:27:29 and then last night was back down again. And so I don't have a feel for this series. But I thought this was 3-1. I was ready to go to bed being 3-1, and the Thunder pulled out 2-2. The video coming out of the Mavs walking to their locker room, they felt it as well like you did. The last time you came on the show, you said something about Luka not being able to hit that step back, and then he came out and he did,

Starting point is 00:27:50 and he did. It's like that injury seems to be wearing on him. And you talked about P.J. Walker. He was Dallas' leading scorer once in the regular season. He has been Dallas' leading scorer in each of the last three games. Dallas hasn't had a 30-point score in any game this series yet. And that's from Hembo. So literally, as you were mentioning, like role players getting the rock,

Starting point is 00:28:13 it feels like that's a stat that kind of paints that picture perfectly. And you've said a couple times now, I don't know. Hey, Wendy, we're going to need you to start knowing, okay? That's why you're here. You're the big brain from Omaha. That's what we've got going on. Connor's got a question for you about Boston. Yeah, Brian, obviously the Celtics are kind of rolling right now,

Starting point is 00:28:30 but one guy missing, Porzingis, is someone that everyone in Boston is looking for as far as hopes to win the entire thing. Are there any updates on him? Can we expect him to possibly play in the Eastern Conference Finals, or is this going to be something that if the Celtics, hopefully when they make the finals, he may be able to join them for that run of

Starting point is 00:28:50 games in that series? Confident indie guys asking about the next round opponent. I see what you're talking about. Not that Steak and Shake is closing up. We might have lost our grit and our job here in this city. I didn't know that. Also, the Pacers suck. I love the Celtics.

Starting point is 00:29:05 I'm sorry. I apologize all right so you guys were right so al horford has played center in this series against the calves and he's done pretty well but he's wearing down a little bit i thought he showed some wear last night against evan mobley so first off uh porzingis was never playing in this series, and I'd kind of be surprised if he starts the conference finals, which could start either Sunday or next Tuesday, depending on what happens with Pacers-Knicks. So, I don't think Porzingis is going to be ready for the start of the conference finals.

Starting point is 00:29:40 The question is, do the Celtics need him? They might, because the Pacers play high tempo and if the Pacers win this series, they're really deep. That may give Boston a little bit of an issue because I just don't know if Horford can play as a starter this many minutes. But Boston...

Starting point is 00:29:59 Especially with Miles Turner doing what Miles Turner's doing. Miles Turner's doing windmill dunks in the paint, in traffic. And windmill doing windmill dunks in the paint in traffic. And windmill threes. Forget about that. Chase down blocks at one game three, buddy. That was his moment. His best moment as a pacer.

Starting point is 00:30:14 That should be immortalized on a banner outside Steak and Shake when I get back to town on Friday. Immortalized? It's the second round, Wendy. Gee. How are the pacers done? How are the Pacers done? How are the Pacers done since 2000? We haven't seen too many. Shut up, Wendy.

Starting point is 00:30:30 Oh, shut up. You know the last time you were in town is when Miami was, yeah, I learned about it when Miami was in town. Yeah, we didn't have the heatles. Okay, we didn't change basketball forever. We just happened to meet them in the Eastern Conference final back-to-back years.

Starting point is 00:30:45 That's what the Pacers have done since 2000. And I was actually in building for those. And it feels like the city's back behind. Yeah, truly. Back behind the Pacers in a big way. Speaking of that particular series, Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Wendy, there is an ugly head that keeps coming back for Tibbs' coach teams, and that is injuries late in the season and in the playoffs. There is an ugly head that keeps coming back for Tibbs' coach teams,

Starting point is 00:31:08 and that is injuries late in the season and in the playoffs, and it's happened to the Knicks this year. Everyone knows Tibbs likes his guys to play hard and play a lot of minutes. What is the talk around the NBA circles about? Is this another situation where Tibbs is getting blamed for this, or is it just bad luck? How does the NBA feel about the injury situation in New York? Yeah, there's some chirping about it because, you know,

Starting point is 00:31:32 the Knicks' defense for all the minutes is like, well, our guys are hurt. And that's true. They definitely are missing some guys. But the OG Ananobi's injury probably changed this series. Now, the Knicks can still – it's a three-game series. The Knicks have two of them at home. If the Knicks win this series it's a three-game series. The Knicks have two of them at home. If the Knicks win this series, it's not at all surprising. But O.G. Ananobi going out changed the course of this series.

Starting point is 00:31:54 And O.G. went out, in my view, because of overuse. He had played the last four games before he blew out his hamstring. He played the most minutes of any four games in his career. And that injury, look, I'm not an athlete, I'm not a doctor, but he was running down the floor and his hamstring popped. That's a used thing, I think. And so you can't look at Tibbs and say that that's not a factor. That said, these guys love Tibbs so much.

Starting point is 00:32:25 I don't know if I've ever seen a team, if I have, it's a very small number, where the players have such an appreciation for the coach and respect for the coach and what he wants, and they want to do it. It's really kind of awesome to see. It's why the fans in New York love this team so much. If they're going to go down, I swear to a man, if they're going to go down and it's the way Tibbs wants to play, I think they're willing to go down. The one thing I will say, obviously on Sunday

Starting point is 00:32:47 when they had 36 hours between games, the Knicks just didn't have it. Huge advantage Pacers. That's why I would say if the Knicks are going to win, the Knicks got to win 5-6 because Sunday it's 36 hours again. It's Friday

Starting point is 00:33:03 night and then they play Sunday afternoon for game seven. The Knicks get a break because of Kaitlyn Clark. Kaitlyn Clark, her first assist is to the Knicks, and she's got Gaines Bridge Fieldhouse on Thursday night. Oh, shut up, Whitney. The Fever. The Fever got the game, got the arena on Thursday night. He ain't moving that booking,

Starting point is 00:33:24 so they get two days off between games five and six. So the Knicks get to play tonight at home. Huge, huge moment. One of the biggest games they've had in the Garden in 20 years. That's no lie. I was joking about the Pacers. Knicks can't hold a candle that the Pacers done last 20 years, 25 years. That's the truth.

Starting point is 00:33:40 And then they get two days off between now and game six. I don't like the Knicks' chances on a short turnaround in game seven, even in the Garden. So if the Knicks are going to do it, if the Pacers get this to seven, I think they've got a good chance. Obviously, if they have a chance to clinch at home on Friday, they're home. Great opportunity.

Starting point is 00:33:56 But the Pacers can get tonight's game and give themselves either, A, a chance to clinch at home or a chance to play the Knicks on a 36-hour turnaround. It comes down to everything in tonight. It really does. Yeah, I can't wait to watch tonight. I feel like the Pacers are buzzing, and they won't have Dale Davis in that Indy car revving it up beforehand.

Starting point is 00:34:14 No, no, no. But you get back to it. He didn't look comfortable in that car. I'm not going to lie to you. We all had the same reaction, but we were pumped he was there. We were pumped he was there. All right, last question for me, and then D-Butt got one that I think you're going to

Starting point is 00:34:27 maybe send some ripple effects across the entire sports media. Sean Sharania. You got booze in there? You said it's water. That's classic what booze bags would say. It's Opus One. Okay. Yeah, you and LeBron started in high school and you guys were on the same team.

Starting point is 00:34:43 Sean Sharania just reported on Fandle TV that Coach K has been hanging around the Los Angeles Lakers and secretly consulting with the Lakers in their coaching search. And then obviously the ties with J.J. Redick because he's co-host with LeBron. And that Mind the Game podcast is potentially just one big interview from LeBron to J.J. Redick where they can draw plays together and maybe do it. What do you know about Coach K being around and does that directly mean that J.J. Redick with his backward ass hat is going to be the head coach for the Lakers next year? That is the first I've heard of that but J.J. is absolutely a legitimate candidate for that job and for a whole number of

Starting point is 00:35:18 reasons whether whether it's Coach K making the suggestion or not. You know, Rob Palenka, the general manager of the Lakers, when he was an agent, he successfully recruited a number of Duke players. So in addition to LeBron's relationship with Coach K, you know, there was a lot of players that Mike Krzyzewski said, yeah, you know, I would recommend you sign with Rob Palenka. That relationship has been around for a long time. So that doesn't surprise me, even though I wasn't aware of it. But JJ is absolutely a legitimate candidate for the job.

Starting point is 00:35:55 You know, he is a co-worker of mine here at ESPN. I have immense respect for his basketball knowledge and everything. We've had lots of conversations, you know, behind the scenes. And if he wants to be a head coach, I have no doubt that he could be a very good head coach. This is a very hard job to take. Play an old team with high, high expectations in the Western Conference, where quite frankly, even if you had Red Auerbach in his prime, well, he'd never coached the Lakers. Let me take that back. If you had, you know, Mike Krzyzewski in his prime, it doesn't matter what coach you had. It'd be very difficult to be successful. But one of the things I've learned in 20 years covering the NBA is very few people can say no to the power of the Lakers.

Starting point is 00:36:40 And so I think, you know, they're going to interview other candidates for sure. of the Lakers. And so I think, you know, they're going to interview other candidates for sure. James Borrego, who's a very experienced coach with a great background, I think would be a very strong candidate. But look, I can understand why the Lakers would have interest in J.J. I can understand why J.J. would have interest.

Starting point is 00:36:56 And that would not surprise me at all if that's the direction it went. Is he playing for him, too? Has LeBron not needed his Mike Moore? Has he not neededron not needed his Mike Moore? Has he not needed and coach is just over there. It is illegal for him to be a

Starting point is 00:37:12 player coach in today's NBA. You know what, Silver? Enough! If a guy wants to coach, play, and own a team, let him Jackie Moon his ass off out there. Last question here from D-Butch to you, Wendy. Speaking of some of your co-workers, we had Austin Rivers on a couple weeks ago asking about the heat potentially moving on and getting another star and we heard another report coming from espn yesterday about durant not being happy

Starting point is 00:37:33 in phoenix any possibility durant heads down to south beach and plays for the heat next season so to be clear i have not heard anything like that um the other thing i'll say is which part which part did you not hear anything i have not heard anything like that um the other thing i'll say is which part which part did you not hear anything i have not heard anything about the heat and durant in the legitimate capacity i certainly if you could uh you know you could speculate but i just want to be clear the other thing i would say is the big thing for the heat jimmy butler is eligible for a contract extension he's got two years and 100 million million left on his contract. He is 35 years old. He missed a whole bunch of games this year. He wants the extension. Now, if the Heat don't want to give the extension, which is what Pat Riley implied heavily in his end of season press

Starting point is 00:38:17 conference, is Jimmy cool with that? Because the last time he wasn't happy with his contract, he was with the Minnesota Timberwolves. He asked for a trade. So that's one thing. I don't know what he's going to do, but that is a big factor that a lot of teams are watching. Secondly, the Phoenix Suns have come out and said, the owner, Matt Ishbia, on the record, that he doesn't intend to trade any of his big trades. First off, Bradley Beal is a no-trade clause.

Starting point is 00:38:42 So the Suns are out there on the record. This isn't Torsen said or anything. They don't intend to trade those guys. So the only way you could see action there is if it was player-initiated. So we'll keep an eye on that. But as far as I'm aware, there's none of that going on. But certainly, you know, that is something to keep an eye on because obviously it was a disappointing season in Phoenix.

Starting point is 00:39:01 It's the NBA, too. That seemingly is how every offseason is. All of a sudden, you see some clips from a rap concert. There's a couple NBA guys dancing in the crowd. And then two days later, holy shit, at that concert, a trade was negotiated. It's like, wait, in between songs? Yeah, right before

Starting point is 00:39:15 the encore. Yeah, that's whenever it all goes. Actually, it was negotiated steak and shake after the game. Well, not in Indiana anymore. What the hell's going on? Are you coming back here for friday's game yeah i'll be back here on friday hey we can't wait to see you come down and say hello i think we'll be uh where you're in the i don't even know where the hell you would are you in is there a media area i assume where do you guys i don't know yeah and trust me in the back

Starting point is 00:39:38 were you at were you gonna come to a game and didn't come read you come to a game? Because I was in the back and there was all this whispering. Pat McAfee. Pat McAfee. Pat McAfee. Pat McAfee. Pat McAfee. John Mellencamp. Pat McAfee. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:39:53 John Mellencamp was there. Yes, he was. I saw him. He was right to my right. He had really cool boots on. Hair. Hair was perfect. And then he had a toothpick in his mouth

Starting point is 00:40:02 whenever they showed him up on the jump. He had a cougar jacket on. Like a leather. Yeah, up on the jungle. He had a cougar jacket on? Like a leather. Yeah, I think he did. He had a cougar on the back of it. Yeah. And pink houses. Yep.

Starting point is 00:40:12 Living. Were they talking about that? When you show up, they're going to clear out the path for you. Well, that's not true. Actually, there's a guy named Ron that was a photographer who's been there for 20 years. He was actually sitting in my lap the entire time. It was worth it. Guy gave me full play-by-play for everything it was uh i had a wonderful time the instant

Starting point is 00:40:28 replays on the camera yeah i got to tyrese gave me his seats uh mother's day all came together last second i didn't know what i didn't want to i didn't know how to play on mother's day to be sure i had no idea what you took you took brenda halliburton seats on mother's day you took brenda's seat easy no actually my wife who is also a mother was sitting next to brenda halliburton okay cool brian oh wendy aren't you a hero aren't you just a hero wendy listen i love the halliburtons we bonded overseas in in abu dhabi and manila last year i just want to make sure they're taken care of. Tanner was over there. Great conversation. I mean, it was a blast.

Starting point is 00:41:07 I had an absolute, yeah. Sam just saw, oh, she spilled her drink. Yep, that's what's happening right there. Sam just kicked her Red Bull vodka down. Oh, no. Yeah, it got on the photographer's ass in front of us. Wow. Almost got on the court.

Starting point is 00:41:18 It was a full scene. It was awesome. Which one's Ron? Gray here? Yeah, Ron's, yeah, the one right in front of me. Yeah, that was him. He had great shots the entire time. To be honest, I didn't turn around once. I didn't look anywhere. I literally was just locked in

Starting point is 00:41:30 having a good time. You were focused. You were locked in. Yeah, we had to win. We were up by 30. You never know. You don't want to give that up in the NBA playoffs, especially in Cambridge now it's all the way back. Hey, Wendy, thank you for joining us, man. Have a safe travel back to our wonderful city. Thanks, guys. Take care. Steak and Shake might open up just for you from the traction I'm seeing on the internet.

Starting point is 00:41:45 Maybe for you. Not for me, but for you, they would. No, for you. You just put them on blast. I'm assuming this Steak and Shake's manager is going to be like, need to get Wendy in here. What's your order there, Wendy? Do you know? I haven't been to Indy since 2018. I don't remember,

Starting point is 00:42:02 but that was our go-to. I was just a little surprised when i arrived and it was it was all the lights were all on but the door was locked i didn't know that door had a lock on yeah well there was some stuff that happened a few years back that every door in the city had to get locks a lot of them yeah it was hey actually very pumped to see indie back there was a chance for like two years there was a thought maybe the city's dead because of everything that was happening downtown and the stoppage of, you know, because we host events.

Starting point is 00:42:28 Like, I would assume the future farmers of America aren't happy that Steak and Shake and the firefighters that come every single year aren't happy about the Steak and Shake. I've been to Indy during the firefighter convention. Oh yeah. I mean, they take over. I've been to Indy during it. And they drink every

Starting point is 00:42:43 drop of booze. In the town. Yeah. So, Steak and Shake might have had an overwhelming amount of mustaches come in there one night and say, I can't do this anymore. So, our city's all the way back. We're very thankful for that. And I think the Pacers are leading a great party.

Starting point is 00:42:57 Same with Caitlin Clark. Can't wait for that. And if you're here for the Indy 500, we need to get you out there. You need to get on track. Pace car. You need to get in the pace car I ain't doing that I'll watch but I ain't getting in that car

Starting point is 00:43:09 You must be crazy Ladies and gentlemen Brian Ware I like Wendy Sass He's the man He's got good pizzazz That's like the perfect thing for him Because that is kind of

Starting point is 00:43:23 That took over We'll keep an eye on it today. I don't know for sure. Well, you just said, I had not heard. Just wants to kind of clear the palette real quick. What other people are saying, I have not heard personally. He's not really an insider. No.

Starting point is 00:43:38 He's not really a pundit. No. He's just like an analyst. Yeah. Analyst, journalist, covers the game. Just knows ball. Does he write too? I believe so, yeah. He started as a Cleveland played. Analyst, journalist, covers the game. Just knows ball. Does he write, too? I believe so, yeah.

Starting point is 00:43:46 He started as a Cleveland-played dealer. Great writer. Wrote two books. And they're like, wow, this guy's got so much pizzazz, we need to put him on camera. Can't just let his words be doing all the speaking for this guy. We need his mouth to do it. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:43:59 Thank you, Wendy. Great person. My boy. My boy, Wendy. He was kind of, remember, he had a great high school run alongside LeBron. That team was just so good. What's that? Wing, backcourt?

Starting point is 00:44:11 Yeah, he's three. He's three. I mean, he tells you, you know. One to five, baby. Well, every once in a while, too, when they played – they took on the Moon Township – the Moon Tigers. The Moon Moons.

Starting point is 00:44:23 And it was Wendy versus versus AQ Shipley. So he was playing five that day. I mean, that was a lot of sweat, a lot of meat. Still talk about the dent in the floor beneath the net after those two went to war. Yeah, AQ and Windy went up for, you know one of those shots that just like rebound, rebound, rebound? Those two were jousting like King Kong and Godzilla.

Starting point is 00:44:43 Bingo. Down, bang, down, bangingo down bang bang bang they each recorded one and a half rebounds yeah yeah then jump ball yeah and then they both jump you know you know how they say like uh backboards break yeah this one the actual floor yeah like with Zion Wendy and AQ or yeah it was a good battle it was a good battle. It was a good battle. Now, obviously, the Irish won. Yeah, of course. AQ was taken out by Windy. I love Windy. He's become very good on our show.

Starting point is 00:45:11 Yeah, he's the man. Could we have ever guessed that? I don't think so. I don't think that would have been in our predictions for ESPN licensing. Who is somebody that joins our show that we will like a lot? Windy. I did not expect him to be the one.

Starting point is 00:45:25 Unfortunately, Ohio people do tend to do well on the program, and he is an Ohio guy. Yeah, deep dive. That's true. Austin Rivers also. I would not have guessed that one. Yeah, I like Austin. He is awesome.

Starting point is 00:45:36 Yeah, he just, yeah, he stirs shit. Yeah, he is the man. So what? And he doesn't care. He went to Duke, too. He's got all that Duke pride. Oh, yeah. There was a Texas guy back on the show yesterday.

Starting point is 00:45:46 Kendrick Perkins. Yeah. Yeah, Perkins was back. Big Perk was back. He's working a lot. Him coming here every week would have been very impossible for him. Yeah. When that was agreed to, I am very thankful for it,

Starting point is 00:45:55 but that felt like that was quite a big expectation. Bit of a stretch. Yeah. With how much he's on TV in L.A. and in New York and in Texas where he lives, it's like that would have been a lot. So hopefully we'll be able to make something happen in the future, but they're working his ass off. Speaking of working his ass off, maybe he's back because he's another year older.

Starting point is 00:46:12 Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, guy who played professional hockey for 13 to 14 years. Can't do the Wikipedia counting. It's a little bit difficult. It's so weird. Ladies and gentlemen, PK Subban. Yeah, PK! Hey, are you doing TV again?

Starting point is 00:46:25 Are we taking a month off because we turned another age? Or what's going on? Oh, no. Oh, he muted himself. Oh, no. Yeah, we can't hear you. Hold on. There you go.

Starting point is 00:46:36 Can you hear me now? I know you can hear me. Stop messing with me. I know you guys can hear me. But we couldn't. 100%. But we couldn't, though. So we could have actually did that, you know. But now we can hear me. Stop messing with me. I know you guys can hear me. But we couldn't. A hundred percent. But we couldn't, though. So we could have actually did that, you know, but now we can hear you.

Starting point is 00:46:49 And it's too soon to the last time we did this. Too soon the last time we did this, we won't do it again. Pat, hold on. I got you on the TV here, so I had it muted so that when you guys called me, you couldn't hear yourself in the background. Oh, see, you're a professional. You're a professional. You work in this thing, do you?

Starting point is 00:47:04 Is that happening again? Are we working again? Or what's going on? I am working again. Hey, here we go. Here we go, PK. I'm picking up another shift. PK, picking up a couple shifts. Here we go. Get back on the ice. Here we go. Here we go, PK. Come on now, PK. Get back on TV. Hey, Tatum. Hey, Tatum.

Starting point is 00:47:19 Hey, Tatum. Tatum. Alright, alright. Sightseeing tour's over. We had a birthday party, okay? Now we're back on TV. Happy birthday. Happy birthday.eing tour's over. We had a birthday party. Okay. Now we're back on TV. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. It was great. We appreciate you.

Starting point is 00:47:30 Okay. You're back on TV. Good. The NHL playoffs are cooking. Yep. I'm ready to go. What'd you do for your birthday? You just went and saw every game that you give free tickets to?

Starting point is 00:47:40 It was an insane week. I mean, for a week that I took off from working, I don't know if I've watched that much sports in a week. I went Knicks Monday, Rangers Tuesday, Knicks Wednesday, Celtics Thursday in Boston, Bruins Friday in Boston, Saturday watched both games on TV, Sunday drove back home, Monday went to the Rangers game. So I've been all in. That's a hell of a week. And the Boston team lost both

Starting point is 00:48:08 games. And that could be because you were there. What is the... What was your favorite? What was your favorite atmosphere? Is it going to be easy to judge or tough to judge here? You'll probably say they were all great. They were all great. That's a hell of a week of playoff sports there. A lot of dream moments back to back to back.

Starting point is 00:48:23 What a week you had pk yeah msg is just tough to beat this time of year uh new york has been going absolutely bonkers over rangers and knicks so every time i step into that building it's literally it feels like the stanley cup final in there um every single time the rangers play and as it should be i mean why wouldn't you be excited about being a New York City fan right now of sports? So they're being spoiled this offseason. I think they're going to be spoiled even more because I think the Knicks are going to continue. I think the Rangers are going to last a little bit longer, but if not go all the way this

Starting point is 00:48:58 year. So I'd be excited to be in New York if I was a New York Rangers or Knicks fan for sure. Yeah, the Knicks are dead. We know that. So we don't even have to talk about that, but we'll talk about hockey. Knicks are dead. Not yet. Huh? Not yet. They're not dead yet. The hoop's this big for Tyrese

Starting point is 00:49:14 Allenburton right now. And Miles Turner's throwing up shots from like half court and they're full. I mean, the hoop's bigger right now for the Pacers, you know. And it's coming back to New York, right? Yeah, it's back in that Mecca that you talked about. We'll see how that game goes. Okay, well Friday we're back

Starting point is 00:49:29 in Gainbridge out here in Indiana. Indiana is going to be here. Let's talk about that Rangers team though. Are you worried? Are you a little bit worried here now? They could have put the game away instead. They let the Hurricanes, who are a very, very good program, kind of get back in this thing. Now all of a sudden it's 3-2 in a series.

Starting point is 00:49:47 Carolina Hurricanes got to feel like they have momentum. Is this going to be a tough one to close out or are you very comfortable with the New York Rangers? You just said yes, but is there any worry to potentially be had here if you are in the Rangers dressing room? Well, I said earlier on your show, Pat, that

Starting point is 00:50:02 if Carolina didn't win game three, that they might as well start planning some golf trips. And I still believe that. I still believe that the Rangers are going to win this series. I think that's a very, very tall mountain to climb. Can Carolina do it? You're damn right they can do it, especially if they played the way that they played last night.

Starting point is 00:50:23 They dominated the last two games. But I think if you are a New York Rangers fan, you need to listen very, very carefully. I think it's a bigger issue them going into the Eastern Conference final, having swept the first round team and then kind of making quick do of the second round team. This adversity is good for the New York Rangers. They need to elevate their intensity level. They need their desperation level to get elevated

Starting point is 00:50:50 because I'm going to tell you, whether it's Carolina or it's the Florida Panthers, the hockey from here on in is desperation. Every game, every shift matters now. There's no freebies. Washington was a quick tune-up round for them. That's not

Starting point is 00:51:05 going to happen the rest of the playoffs. Carolina right now is finding their game. They're finding goaltending. I still think Igor Shosturkin's going to steal a game, and I think it's probably going to be the next one. They're going to need his help in Carolina, but I think for the Rangers this is exactly what the doctor ordered.

Starting point is 00:51:21 They needed a punch in the gut. They need a smack in the face. They need to wake up and realize they've got to play their best hockey every night. And they weren't the best team on the ice last night, but I still think it's their series to lose. Okay, calloused up a little bit for them. Now, speaking of callouses, go ahead, Conman. Yeah, PK, obviously it's been tough

Starting point is 00:51:37 sledding since the last time we talked to you with the Boston Bruins. And now with Brad Marchand missing his second straight game, obviously it does not look good you mentioned Igor stealing the game probably going to need Swayman to do that what were your thoughts on the Bennett hit on Marchand after seeing the other angle here that they got two days later allegedly the NHL and that's why there was no suspension or anything but what did you think about that and then what do you think the Bruins need to do with no Marchand tonight again

Starting point is 00:52:05 to get the job done and extend the series to Game 6? Well, fans need to stop complaining, first of all. Thank you, PK. That'll never happen. Thank you. That'll never happen. Hold on a second. Let me complain.

Starting point is 00:52:17 If someone's going to complain, let me complain. Thank you, PK. Thank you, PK. You're up. Shut up, D-Buck. You're up. People need to stop. Enjoy the hockey. The hockey is fantastic. You're up. Shut up, D-Buck. You're up. People need to stop. Enjoy the hockey.

Starting point is 00:52:25 The hockey is fantastic. There's nothing wrong with the officials. They're not going to make every call. They're going to miss some calls. I like the no call on Bennett. I do. I like it because I didn't think Swayman could make that save. I watched it.

Starting point is 00:52:39 I was sitting directly behind Jeremy Swayman. I'm going to get to the Marchand in a second. But on that goal, when Sam Bennett scored, that's a great call by the officials. Great judgment call. So I like what the officials are doing. Every game there's going to be controversial calls. Fans need to stop complaining. Let me do the complaining if anybody's going to complain.

Starting point is 00:53:00 Brad Marchand has gotten over on players. Since he's come in the league, there's been more moments of Brad Marchand Has gotten over on players Since he's come in the league There's been more moments of Brad Marchand Getting over on players than guys getting over on him This is an instant Where a player gets over on him And you know what? It's a part of playoff hockey That's the game within the game

Starting point is 00:53:18 Not everything needs to get called Listen, whether it's on purpose or not Some days you're the hydrant Some days you're the dog Some days you or not, some days you're the hydrant, some days you're the dog, some days you're the windshield, some days you're the bug. That's just the way the game goes, and not everything needs to get called. I don't want to be

Starting point is 00:53:33 ticky-tacking all the time, making sure that the refs are human. They're not going to see everything. So, you need to stop complaining. Stop complaining and just enjoy it. I got no problem with the officiating right now. Okay, you just got to get yours more than you get got, though. I understand you're saying that.

Starting point is 00:53:49 But how about this Bruins team without him? Are they in a – are they – yeah, okay. You're worried. We've been worried for the boys up there in the beach. I am. I like the way Posta and the guys showed up last game to play. But I just think – if you saw florida there's no panic in their game this is a team that's poised and and understands what's being asked of them to get to that next

Starting point is 00:54:12 round and ultimately reach their goal of winning a stanley cup these guys there's no moment that's going to get too big for this team i think they're prepared for it and i know that for them there's no option they got to close this thing out now. You've got to put Boston to bed. Get some extra days rest. I know Sam Bennett missed some time. You've got some other bodies, some other guys that you need to get back making sure that they're healthy and they're

Starting point is 00:54:35 rested for that next round. Because going up against the Rangers, you're going to need anything. If it's them or Carolina, you're going to need all your players. You're going to need to be healthy. And that's my only question with Florida, is are they going to be healthy when they get to players. You're going to need to be healthy. And that's my only question with Florida is are they going to be healthy when they get to the next round? They've got to be healthy. Florida Panthers fans are certainly confident.

Starting point is 00:54:51 Now, we're coming up on a hard out, so we do need to ask you about something that happened yesterday seemingly out of nowhere. Yeah, PK, what the hell is going on with Nachuskin in Denver? It seems like – I mean, is that something where that situation is kind of why they have just completely fallen apart against the Stars? Or do you know more information about that? He's suspended for, what, a long time? Six months.

Starting point is 00:55:13 Yeah, a long time. And no one really knows what the hell is going on. A lot of people speculating, though. Well, the NHL has been diligent and pretty swift in taking care of this situation. And, I mean, the first and foremost, it's sad when you see something like that. You know, because talented player. This guy's got nine goals in the playoffs.

Starting point is 00:55:34 I mean, he's a key cog in that wheel that turns in Colorado. For that team to be a Stanley Cup championship team, he was a big part of the reason why they won the Cup a few years ago. So it's an important piece to their team. Is this the end of the Colorado Avalanches run? Well, it looks like they're going to need every piece that they possibly have in that organization against Dallas, the way Dallas Stars are playing right now. But it's just really sad to see that the most important

Starting point is 00:56:05 time of the year you know as a hockey player this is what you dream about is playing in these moments and you know to have these issues come up during the playoffs it just sucks because this is the ultimate time to be a part of your brotherhood right it's it's it's the most unselfish time of the year right it's a selfless time. But when you have issues, you have issues. And I hope for him that he gets the help that he needs because he's too good of a hockey player, too important to Colorado, and we'll see what happens. But there's no question at this time of the year,

Starting point is 00:56:38 there's guys dying to get into the lineup. There's an opportunity to play, and you've got to be responsible off the ice. So I don't have all the ins and outs of the story, but for the NHL to come down that quickly and swiftly, this is obviously something that's happened before. So I just wish Valerie Natchushkin the best. I hope he gets the help that he needs, and we see him back on the ice soon.

Starting point is 00:56:57 Me too. Sports are amazing. We love them. We get to talk about them every single day. A lot of things have happened around the sports world today that we get to chat about, and it is an absolute honor to do so. It's not just me, obviously, standing here, sitting here, maybe halfway smoking some sage, having a time in my life.

Starting point is 00:57:20 There's a group of men around me that are just an absolutely stellar group. Ladies and gentlemen, the Talks at the Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, how does it feel sitting next to Connor? Been a little bit of tension out of this guy. Yeah, a little bit of good, genuine heat, but I love it. I love it, especially as someone whose team's already been eliminated. You can kind of just sit back and watch the chaos as two guys just rip each other's throats out. It's kind of enjoyable.

Starting point is 00:57:42 Yeah, the other guy you're talking about is a Florida Panther fan, nine-year NFL vet, and super hockey fanatic. Thanks to Derrick Stable. Huge hockey guy. Excited to see who's going to be on the drum tonight. Yeah, you're right. Who is going to be on the drum tonight? I don't know. Jalen Ramsey was on there last time. We got a big win. We'll see.

Starting point is 00:57:57 It'll be a Dolphin player, I'm sure. Tyreek Hill. Should be Hulkster. Hulkster and Sunrise? Does he have any connection to South Florida? Hulkster is a Go Bolts fan. He's a Tampa Bay Lightning fan. Yeah, but if you ask the Hulkster to come bang the drum, he's gonna do it. Bingo. That's one half of the hammer.

Starting point is 00:58:14 Cowboys tone digs. We don't know if he's able to do it because we do know that Monday Night Karaoke took place yesterday. I think today is cleanup for that, so we're not 100% sure if Hulk Hogan is able to bang the drum. We will keep an eye out on the pre-puck drop festivities. Joining us now from Nantucket, Ohio

Starting point is 00:58:29 is a man who actually has family ties to the NHL playoffs, but he rarely talks about it. Never. His brother-in-law actually was quoted after the situation that happened in Colorado. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion,

Starting point is 00:58:40 Super Bowl champion, Ryder Cup winner, president of Ohio, A.J. Hull. A.J. Hull. A.J. Jack Johnson Hey, A.J. Jack Johnson was quoted. I wonder how many years he's been in the league.

Starting point is 00:58:50 How many years? I mean, I honestly don't know. 20, maybe? That's one of those situations where something happens. It happened in the NFL a couple times, and I literally spoke to the media zero times whenever I was a punter. Wasn't asked to, didn't have to, never went to the press conference.

Starting point is 00:59:04 Then something would happen and they'd be like, hey Pat, is there any way you could potentially go up there? Can you smooth this over and not say anything stupid for us, please? Did you potentially go represent here, the locker room in this particular one? It's like, yeah, thanks. Just throw me out there on the edge of a cliff.

Starting point is 00:59:19 Gotcha. Yeah, no problems at all. Well, go ahead. This is the first time you talk to these guys in two years, but yeah. They're going to be asking about some stuff. You obviously know, right? Yeah, no problem. Gotcha. Yeah, no problems at all. Well, go ahead. This is the first time you talk to these guys in two years, but yeah. They're going to be asking about some stuff. You obviously know, right? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so you will. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:31 Yeah, you got it. No problem. Let me get up there. All right. I mean, this is a whole organization pretty much. That is a whole thing. But Jack Johnson, 20 years. Yeah, 20 years.

Starting point is 00:59:43 He potentially was the one that they were like, hey, listen. do you have anything to say about the situation that just took place? About an hour before a game starts. It's not a dude is out because of an injury. Dude is out for six months. It's not just, and this is an off the ice thing, and PK just talked about it. It's incredibly sad. That's a sad thing to think that this guy is obviously going through something that he can't control himself in the biggest moments of the year, even if this has been something that's obviously had to have happened in

Starting point is 01:00:07 the past if they're if he's currently in the program if it's anything like the nfl program i was in for 27 months they drug tested me eight times a month for 27 straight months i mean it was a lot it was in detail whenever i left to go visit anywhere i had to give them an address i was headed to in two phone numbers they could reach me at so they could drug test me at any time, brother. And they certainly did. I went Bigfoot hunting down in Georgia. They drug tested me at 4 a.m. at a hotel motel on the side of the road

Starting point is 01:00:33 out in the middle of the woods of Georgia while I was Bigfoot hunting. And the drug tester guy said to me, I've never been told to test somebody at 4 a.m. What's going on? I said, well, I told them I was Bigfoot hunting in Georgia. And I guess they wanted to get me. I'd assume the NHL was very similar. Like, I assume that there is a program that is happening. He probably gets random drug tests that take place. This is all me just speculating from my own experience in the NFL. And then if one of those pops,

Starting point is 01:00:59 the next punishment is, boom, a six-month suspension. For us, like, first one, another three months added. Another six months added. Another this suspension. For us, like first one, another three months added, another six months added, another this, suspension potentially, like that's how ours works. I would assume the NHL has something similar. And for this to come out hour before the game, I mean, that's a wild situation in Colorado, legitimately. That is wild for a team that doesn't have a lot of people.

Starting point is 01:01:19 That's a small group. That's a good player. And that's obviously something everybody's bummed out about. Hey, AJ. Yeah, do we have any idea the difference between the NFL substance of abuse program or policy? Because they say he's stage three. What does stage three mean? That just means six-month suspension?

Starting point is 01:01:33 So I was in stage one was like a three-month. I thought if I aced stage one, okay, I'm not moving to stage two. Ace means that you don't test positive for anything. Yeah. No positive tests. I don't miss any meetings with anybody. I check in everywhere. I do this entire thing.

Starting point is 01:01:51 Stage one, I was like, all right, if I pass stage one, Flying Colors, we're on a move to stage two. Good to go. Stage one was ending. Day stage one was ending. I was driving back to Pittsburgh to celebrate beating stage one. I'm on highway in Ohio I get a call from dr. Brown and he said congratulations you now move in stage two

Starting point is 01:02:10 it's just like stage one but it's for 24 months I'm like what why did I even do stage one I said well why did I just fail stage one what I've got the same things because this is just how this goes or whatever and then he said that I should have puked at some point is what he said he said in all the stories you told from the evening you didn't once say that you he said that I should have puked at some point is what he said. He said, and all the stories you told from the evening, you didn't want to say that you puked, you should have puked at some point. That means it was too natural, too easy for you, especially with where you were. So you're going to need a real thing. Now it turns out 24 months was good for me. It ended up changing my life certainly, but I thought it was super serious. I'm like, that's pretty serious. 24 months, 27 months. I got to go. I got to do this entire

Starting point is 01:02:43 thing. Yeah. You got to do that. Stage one, first inpatient treatment, no penalty. Stage two, for violation of stage one treatment plan, suspension without pay during active phase of treatment and then eligible for reinstatement. Stage three, for violation of stage two treatment plan, suspension without pay for at least six months, then eligible for reinstatement.

Starting point is 01:03:04 So this is two fails. Yeah. Yeah, to get to stage three. And whatever they're testing him for, you would assume, if it's anything like what the NFL is like. Yeah. The NFL one, substance abuse program, is built for you not to get out of. Yes.

Starting point is 01:03:18 That is, you are not supposed to get out of that. Guys have been in that. And I learned of dudes that were in it once I got in it, because obviously you're getting tested on like the same days whenever if the drug tester comes to the building or whatever and it's like i asked one of the guys we're playing i'm like how long you been here he's like four years i'm like bro because if you time out your fails it's just like an extension but you didn't but you got put in the you got put in the program because of an alleged arrest you didn't fail a test or whatever like some guys

Starting point is 01:03:45 fail a test and you instantly go in the program so you never failed any drug or alcohol related charge you go into the program same program same program yeah so i i got a public intoxication which was definite the story in which they pieced together alleged okay so there is definitely drunk in public certainly was trying to test you for booze, though? Are you tested for alcohol or anything? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, buddy. How long does it take for it to get out of your system? Well, there was one time, you see, I thought I had them.

Starting point is 01:04:11 So I got tested in Indianapolis on a Thursday, okay? Yeah. So I'm like, all right, sweet. Have it at least until Monday because there's no way they're going to go back-to-back on me. And normally, you know, you'd be good. So I'm like, yep, I'm going to Vegas. So I went to Vegas. I had a Friday night.

Starting point is 01:04:29 Saturday morning. Boy, 6.30 a.m. Guy in lobby. You have a four-hour period to test with. And I'm like, oh, no. It's like the first time I drank in like literally ten months. I know they probably hear that all the time. But like for shoot.

Starting point is 01:04:43 So I actually went to um i want to i forget which spa i sat in the sauna for three hours in like 37 minutes or something like that and was just chugging water and everything and then i took that that piss was as good as clear i don't know how they yeah i don't know how they accepted it i'm like thank you buddy but i think as soon as i said i was going to Vegas immediately after, they're like, well, let's go ahead and get it done. And then I traveled to Pittsburgh. I got tested in Pittsburgh on, I think, that next Tuesday.

Starting point is 01:05:12 So, I mean, they thought they were going to get me. That's three, though, in a five-day period. Damn. Yeah, so then, you know. How many times could they do it in one week? You couldn't do it back-to-back days. Okay. So back-to-back days was not allowed.

Starting point is 01:05:23 But they could do Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Sunday. They did Thursday, Saturday, Tuesday. In three different cities. Indy, Vegas, Pittsburgh. That's nuts. I got out, though. No fails. And that's piss? No blood, thank God. Those blood ones were crazy. Those got out of nowhere.

Starting point is 01:05:39 The hair, too? Do they do those or no? I don't think so. They don't do hair. I don't think they do hair. Because that lasts forever. I had a sweet friend Big brain Shaved his whole body

Starting point is 01:05:49 For I like that guy Just like eyebrows Everything Just take it all No hair Why did AQ do that? That wasn't

Starting point is 01:05:55 Wasn't AQ AQ Yeah I mean he's already He's getting there But he's got a Like a full This guy full body shave

Starting point is 01:06:03 Yeah walked in No hair Not a hair on his body. This is me. We're going to need a hair. Good luck, pal. Good luck. I think he had to come back in a few days, and it turns out it's still in there. It's not just

Starting point is 01:06:15 what's growing. It's not going in through the air. Really? Yeah, it turns out it's coming. Makes sense from the skin. Mr. Houston, we're joking about this, but hey, figure it out, dude. Come on. Come on, bro. Great player. Really the skin. Mr. Houston, we're joking about this, but hey, figure it out, dude. Come on. Come on, bro. Great player. Really good player, man. Great player.

Starting point is 01:06:28 So last year, he missed five games in the first round. There was an incident where they found police were called to his hotel room on the game day of the first round matchup against the Kraken, and they found a woman that was too intoxicated to leave the hotel room at his hotel room. So there's been a whole history with this where that's probably where he got entered into the program but details have kind of been hazy ever since that happened all right well we hope he finds his way out of the program and uh

Starting point is 01:06:55 you're a good hockey player dude come on what's up blow it where's the shushkin from do we know where he's uh russia originally um wasn't uh a Texas hockey first-round pick a couple years ago. Played a couple games with them. Bounced around a little bit. But he's a great player. Like, unbelievable talent. All right, figure it out, dude. Come on.

Starting point is 01:07:12 Figure it out. Come on. I need you. I need you. Six months is nothing in the grand scheme of things, especially if you're able to figure it out. I needed it. It was a lot.

Starting point is 01:07:20 It was a lot. But I needed it. Maybe this is something I'll hopefully, you know, figure out in the shoe skin. And speaking of somebody who doesn't I'll hopefully figure out in the shoe skin. Speaking of somebody who doesn't have anything to figure out, seemingly. He's got a great mustache. Fantastic.

Starting point is 01:07:32 Super tall. Yeah. Stropping. Stropping. Jocked. Stropping, man. Massive ass. Yeah, huge lower body.

Starting point is 01:07:39 Huge ass. National champion. Yep. Throws gas. They call him the gas station. Ladies and gentlemen, Pittsburgh Pirates ace, Paul Skinks. What's up, pal? What's up, guys?

Starting point is 01:07:58 How do you feel about the gas station? And maybe gas has two S's in it, too. You know what I mean? So it's like the gas station because you're throwing gas and you have that massive ass that the Pirates posted on social media. How do we feel about it? Are we working with it? Are we brainstorming still? Do we have any thoughts on that? Yeah, I see what you're doing there.

Starting point is 01:08:16 I don't mind it. I've never heard of that one. Okay, the gas station. Because guess what's coming? Gas. Fucking gas. 2S never runs out. Premium.

Starting point is 01:08:27 All right, let's talk about your debut with the Pittsburgh Pirates. Obviously, we all watched seven strikeouts. You pitched for four innings. One run against you, left two on. That goes in. ERA is what it is. But they're talking about historic debut for you. What were your feelings?

Starting point is 01:08:41 I don't know if you saw. All of Pittsburgh loved what they saw from you, from what we're gathering, from our friends back there. How were you feeling when you got out there, and what was it like your first day in PNC? Yeah, it was cool. That was my, you know, first time being in the stadium for a game, in the dugout for a game.

Starting point is 01:09:02 You know, and walking out there and and you know getting the the crowd into it and all that like it was it was just cool from uh i mean surreal just from the beginning it was it was an awesome day okay was any nerves you know like when you're warming up there and q country road is hey come and take me home what a banger. I learned that from your playoff song. He's from Morgantown, West Virginia. I went to WVU. So, like, I should have known about that song as a banger. But there's people recording your warm-up, and that song's playing,

Starting point is 01:09:34 and I'm watching the video. I'm like, what a perfect, what a perfect warm-up song. Are you taking it all in? Are you in a different world? What is it like whenever you're doing your warm-ups there for your first major league game? Yeah, hearing the song, I thought about that for a while. I thought about the song I was going to use. That's the song I'll use going forward.

Starting point is 01:09:54 I didn't really think about what the moment would be like, but I'd warm it up and hearing that and the crowd and everything. It was really cool. I wasn't trying to take it in too, too much just because I feel like I can get you kind of out of it a little bit um but looking back that was a really cool moment hell yeah go ahead aj what's it like uh trying to get comfortable like pitching to to many different like catchers i guess and just like the logistics of being called up here you go opening day i assume you haven't really pitched too much to to any of the catchers there on the

Starting point is 01:10:23 big league roster what's that like is it tough I know some guys are very particular about what they want their catchers to do and how they want them to be yeah there are a lot of conversations that go into that um and uh grand doll is the guy who caught me um and I had a lot of conversations with him in spring training um you know when I was around him and then you know kind of silver linings a little bit he was on a rehab assignment in triple a earlier this year um which you never you never want to see but um being able to get that uh you know that experience with him i threw to him i i you know talked with him about what what i was thinking and targets and that kind of thing um so it wasn't the wasn't the first time I'd thrown to him. And we had a little bit of a rapport going into the game.

Starting point is 01:11:09 Paul, I'm so happy you're in a Pittsburgh Pirates organization. I am so happy. I mean, I don't know if you know this. I was not a baseball fan. When I was born to the time I had a brain all the way through, like having memories, the Pirates were terrible at baseball. The only thing it was was going to PNC Park, and hopefully if they win, that's a huge plus.

Starting point is 01:11:30 Huge plus. And then we get Zambelli fireworks afterwards. Now, like, people are like, wait a second. This could be something special, especially with you in a young group sparking it. Go ahead, Tone, Pirates fan. Yeah, Paul, you and Jarrett Jones, the Hondo boys, also a rookie, also has been incredible Go ahead, Tone. Pirates fan. Yeah, Paul. You and Jared Jones, the Hondo boys.

Starting point is 01:11:50 Also a rookie. Also has been incredible and started the season up with the club. Are you guys leaning on each other? How much did you talk to him before your first start since he had his first start? Also this year, what's the relationship like between you two? Yeah, I didn't know him too well before uh before this off season really um and you know it's kind of grown into a pretty good friendship pretty quickly um you know we were together for for most of spring training while i was in big league camp and um obviously this is his first go-around too um you know with being in the big leagues and everything but he's done it for you know a month and a half longer than i have so being able to you know pick with being in the big leagues and everything, but he's done it for, you know, a month and a half longer than I have.

Starting point is 01:12:25 So being able to, you know, pick his brain about what the, you know, the vibes like and the expectations and everything like that for a guy who's, you know, been there, done that a little bit. It's, it's awesome. I know it might be a little bit different right now on the screen. Cause you're looking at a grown-ass man. But aside from that, I don't know if you're a little scared right now. You know what I mean? I don't know if you're a little scared right now.

Starting point is 01:12:53 I'd even flex your tricep a little bit. Let you know that the horseshoe is working. Don't you even think about letting anything hang. But aside from that, is there anything else? Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Paul, obviously it's only been one start. But in terms of just like adjustments or you know like the differences like what did you notice the the biggest adjustment or difference was from pitching in triple a to being in the bigs i don't know um and i think to an extent the uh i don't want to call that outing a wash but like

Starting point is 01:13:23 it's such a a different and like interesting outing um just because there's so much other stuff going on there that it's it's a little bit hard to kind of drown it all out like it you know a major league debut is is a major league debut um and so i don't i don't know exactly what what you know in terms of like the adrenaline and everything there it's so hard to drown it out. The hitters are definitely better. You have to be finer, for sure, in terms of how you attack them and that kind of thing. But I don't know.

Starting point is 01:13:55 You'll probably have to give me a couple more outings for me to give you a definitive answer on that. I appreciate everything. The way you go about doing your business is hilarious. I've told this story a couple times to people back in Pittsburgh who went and watched you and were like, hey, this dude is as advertised. That is what they're, this dude is just, and I tell them like, yeah, all ball too. Like this guy is just all baseball. You only want to get better and better.

Starting point is 01:14:17 It feels like from when we talked to you, whenever you were here, we told you about the Indianapolis zoo, which is beautiful, which is literally right next to the ballpark in which you were playing at for the Indianapolis Indians. And you didn't even know it existed because literally you throw balls and then you were napping. And then, Livvy, the video announcing your reaction is when you both wake up from a nap and realize that he's now in the majors,

Starting point is 01:14:39 it's like this dude literally just sleeps and does baseball. Is that the mindset for what the next your whole life like what why do you think you're like this and is this going to be how you are you think for the for the foreseeable future yeah i don't know um and i think that i'm i'm young and like i you know the cool thing about being here is there you know 35 year olds who have played for a while in the big leagues and they all kind of say the same thing. It's like you can't just be ball and sleep like kind of how I am right now. But I think I'm young enough and like new enough to it to where I can get away with it and, you know, be fresh every day and show up with a fresh mind and that kind of thing. I don't think that's how it's going to be forever.

Starting point is 01:15:24 You know, people always say People always say, do you golf or anything like that? I'm like, I don't golf. I don't see myself golfing ever, but I know I've got to pick something up at some point. At some point they tell me I've got to do a hobby. Do you play cards? I'm starting to.

Starting point is 01:15:40 Yeah, that's a good one. Okay, there's a little mental vacation quick. A little refresher. And you're still competing, you know, and camaraderie building. A lot of cards is a good hobby to pick up. I assume with the amount of time you guys are going to be on the road as well. There was something that took over all conversation of all the baseball nerds. D-Bot's got a question for you.

Starting point is 01:15:59 Yeah, maybe pick up some gaming. I'm a big MLB, the show guy, something I didn't know existed, the splinker. I know not many guys throw that, and you do, definitely do. How did you get that into your arsenal? Yeah, I mean, I kind of laugh when people call it the splinker. That's a name for a pitch. One of our guys, Henry Davis, came up with that during spring training or during the offseason when he was catching me.

Starting point is 01:16:26 And it's like I've always called it a sinker on the scoreboard and stat cast and that kind of thing. They're calling it a splitter. And you look at, like, the metrics of it, it's not a true sinker. It's not a true splitter. I don't know. It is what it is. I literally just came about uh you know finding that pitch

Starting point is 01:16:45 just by playing around and throwing it in catch play one day and it kind of stuck what does it do so why why do they say it sinks and it splits this thing's moving this thing's moving twice right now like i'm right i'm already right now so what is this pitch doing is it coming towards me is it going away is it going down is it going out does it change every time what does that pitch do that has everybody kind of uh befuddled we'll say yeah from what i've heard um because i'm a low slot so you expect the ball to kind of go uh you know arm side with it and maybe you know maybe ride a little bit too um so what i've heard from all the catchers and the hitters that have faced me that I've talked to after

Starting point is 01:17:27 is that it kind of just goes straight down, which isn't, you know, sinker. You expect it to go down and arm side too. And the way they see it is it just kind of goes straight down. It's kind of what I've heard. All right. You know, I would just bunt you the whole time.

Starting point is 01:17:44 Oh! That's what I would do the whole time. Are you, uh, Hey, I don't know. Sorry about this. I had to step in a batter's box with top pitching prospect in the history of baseball.

Starting point is 01:17:53 I mean, I have to abuse, uh, the beautiful situation. Yeah. So I apologize for, you know, kind of taking it in the batter's box there.

Starting point is 01:18:02 And I did get a hit. I'm on base. Yep. So I'm a bat thousand against Paul Skeens. It's right here. Yeah did get a hit. I'm on base. So I'm batting 1,000 against Paul Skeens. It's right here. It is right here on this entire thing. We talked to Sean Casey, the mayor, who's a Pittsburgh native. He played for the Cincinnati Reds for a long time.

Starting point is 01:18:14 I think he played for the Red Sox for a while. He's been around. He's a hitting coach for the Yankees. He said that he thinks, and I don't know if you heard this or not, and there's people, I guess, throwing Mason Miller. No. In Oakland. In Oakland.

Starting point is 01:18:27 He's throwing like 103, 104, I guess. Have you ever thought about what top end potentially could be as your body continues to grow and everything like that? And what do those conversations look like? I don't know. I haven't thought about it. The one thing that I do as best as I can is not put a ceiling on it. And Velo isn't, you know, Velo's cool, but it's not everything.

Starting point is 01:18:51 And I think at some point, you can chase Velo as much as you want, but it might start to take away from other things. That's kind of how I look at it, which isn't to say I don't want to throw harder, but I'm kind of happy with where I'm at. Yeah, I think it's doing just fine, pal. Cannot wait to watch it continue to evolve. Speaking of evolve, the game is doing so technologically, but not in the majors.

Starting point is 01:19:16 Connor has a question for you. Yeah, Paul, were there any calls while you were pitching that you went to challenge like you could with the Indianapolis team that plays baseball here? Or were there a few? What's their name? I don't know who you're talking about. You guys know who they're talking about.

Starting point is 01:19:30 They play next to the Indianapolis. That's their name. I'm just saying their name. You're not going to tell me not to say their name. Jeez. You know what? Disrespect their company. Guy's got a cowboy hat on.

Starting point is 01:19:39 But Skeeds, were there any? Were there situations where you wanted to challenge them, or were you just kind of good with the calls? I was good with them. I don't know. I didn't pay too much attention to which ones they missed or anything like that. You can see that after the inning or after the outing in the dugout, but I like the human part of the game.

Starting point is 01:20:04 There's no point. I mean, you're never in the history of baseball has a called strike or a called ball gotten overturned. So there's no, you know, it's just a game. And I love that part of it. Yeah, you gave that answer to us about how you think framing catches or pitches is a big part of a job. You used to be a catcher, which leads me to

Starting point is 01:20:22 Jeff Passan's 2.30 a.m. list of questions potentially for Paul Skeens. Okay. Okay, so our friend Jet Passan warms up the jet. He covers baseball for ESPN. We talked to him yesterday, and I said, hey, if you have any questions that baseball people would ask Paul Skeens, go on and send them over.

Starting point is 01:20:41 Now, sounds like you're already on a good nutritional plan. That's a super alkaline plus seven seven i believe water that's your drape h levels there love what you're doing love what you're doing young age take care of your body he said and on that note about being an ex-catcher could you play catcher today if the pirates asked says jet passing let's say there's a game we don't want it to happen no ever. Ever. But you need to play catcher. You think you can still get your big ass down into that stance and make it happen for the Pittsburgh Barts?

Starting point is 01:21:12 Guys, I've been on this for a while and I was trying to tell our manager in AAA how good I was at catching and he doesn't believe me. For some reason, there's no video anywhere that I can find of me catching so I need somebody to find that. But I think I can.

Starting point is 01:21:29 Nobody ever believes me when I tell them that I was a catcher. But I think I miss that just as much as I miss hitting. Okay. Damn. I think he won the, if I remember correctly, the John Olerud Two-Way Player Award or something like that, if I remember correctly, for catching and pitching, I think. In which state? I think that was.

Starting point is 01:21:47 California? No, I believe that was a summer league up in the New England area. Oh, the Cape Cod League. Maybe. Is that right, Paul? No, that was the college season. Whatever. That was Air Force.

Starting point is 01:22:00 Speaking of college season, did you really turn down? I'm not asking this question. These guys are pro now. We're not talking NIL money. Jet pass. Why are we going back in time? Spaceships don't come equipped with rear view mirrors. They dip.

Starting point is 01:22:19 Only one other guy in the world, Joeon Duron, throws the splinker that that you throw how did you pick up this new pitch since college i think you might have answered that but have you talked to joan do on about the pitch and you talk to other pitchers about pitches that you could potentially add in to your bag paul skeens yeah uh funny thing the pitching coach we had at lsu last year he was the head coach at georgia now uh he was with the twins so he coached duran and he coached me and there's no correlation there i don't think with the with the splinkers but um kind of a kind of a funny thing there uh again the the sink i call it a sinker um splinker stat, I think, calls it a splitter.

Starting point is 01:23:06 It's just a name to me. And he throws his 10 miles an hour harder than mine, probably. So I don't know that it's the same pitch. I think I've got a ways to go before it's a splinker like his. Okay, I appreciate the humility. And shout out to Joe on Duron and pitching and everything like that. Do you guys pick up new – like will you pick up new pitches as you go or will a ball just start traveling?

Starting point is 01:23:32 For instance, Matt Prater, who's a kicker, I assume still in the NFL. I think he'll probably kick forever. There was – his ball just started doing like a little bit of a slice. And I asked him, I'm like, how'd that start happening? Why'd you start doing it? He was like, it just started happening one day. Like it literally just started happening. So now I got to play it.

Starting point is 01:23:50 Is there like different pitches that'll show up whenever you're practicing that's like, oh, I didn't know I could do that with the ball? Or how do you add on to your bag of pitches? Yeah, that's literally how I found the sinker. I was trying to, that was one of the projects that I had when I got to LSU last year um and you know to start throwing a sinker because having two fast balls is always a good thing as a pitcher so I was doing that and kind of like I was trying really hard to you know make that happen I guess and I was throwing basically the difference is I was

Starting point is 01:24:24 trying to get it off my middle finger then and I'm trying to get off my index finger now and I literally just found the index finger cue by just playing catch and I was just wasn't fooling around but I threw one off the index finger that you know really dove and I was like all right I'll just keep doing that and I'll keep trying to do that. I think as you come up with pitches, it's a lot of fooling around for me. You get good ideas from other guys and what you see. But you've got to just kind of fool around with it a little bit. That had to be a great day when that thing just starts going. Think about Mariano Rivera when he found that cutter.

Starting point is 01:25:03 What a day. What a day. I don't know how old he was. He threw it, though, and somebody was like, yeah, nobody can hit that. Like, think about Mariano Rivera when he found that cutter. What a day. What a day. I don't know how old he was. He threw it, though, and somebody was like, yeah, nobody can hit that. All right, I'm going to do this. This is what I'm going to do. Yep, rest of your life.

Starting point is 01:25:13 You are good to go. I still think we should add the knuckleball. Something to think about, Paul. Maybe with your left hand. You don't get the glove that goes on the other side. You knuckle it with that left hand. Really throw him for a loop. Ty has a question for you, Paul. Yeah, Paul, I can't remember if you told us whether or not you were superstitious

Starting point is 01:25:26 when you were in studio, but have you locked down like a pregame meal before your starts yet? I know you're a big son of a bitch, so I don't know if you're eating, you know, 15, 20, 30 lives, you know, some mashed potatoes, a couple of ice cold pops maybe. Have you kind of developed something that you're eating before every start or no? Yeah, chicken alfredo before every start. I got some crap from some of the guys before my last one because I just had this ginormous plate of chicken alfredo

Starting point is 01:25:54 a couple hours before I was going to pitch. They're basically telling me they won't even make it out to pitch. They'd just be sitting on the toilet if they ate that before their outing. But that's just what I do. Every outing helps me, you know, keep my energy. Yeah, roll the dice with a dump, too. That can really, you know, that can get you, that can tighten it up a little bit whenever game gets a little bit longer.

Starting point is 01:26:18 Go ahead, AJ. Paul, speaking of, like, the splinker and even any other pitches that you have picked up along the way, how long from just figuring that out, you know, playing long toss or soft toss with your buddies, to, hey, I'm going to use this in a game or spring training matchup? How long does it take to where you feel comfortable and think, all right, I'm going to try this against some live batters? Depends on the pitch, I think.

Starting point is 01:26:40 I started throwing my curveball during the season last year. When I went into the college season last year, I was fastball sinker slider change up. Um, and we found pretty quick that it wouldn't be very smart to throw my sinker. Uh, cause that's, you know, usually a right on right pitch and they were cheating to, to get to the fastball. So it was kind of just a bad speed pitch for them. Um, but then third or fourth week of the season last year, I started fooling around with what I wanted to be a gyro slider

Starting point is 01:27:10 because I was throwing the sweeper. Basically, I have something that was in the middle between my fastball and the sweeper that didn't move quite as much horizontally. So I threw a gyro slider my freshman and sophomore year of college and went back to that cue uh and that grip um and it was uh it ended up being a curveball and locked it locked it in in about three days and started throwing in games uh probably three or four days after i you know first started throwing it but that's not always how it goes yeah well that gyro slider

Starting point is 01:27:43 though oh man once you get that thing and then a sweeper comes by, holy shit, you know? And then once you have it, you got it. And then you have the knuckle. Oh, yeah, with the left hand. You need to start working in the left-handed knuckle. Are you allowed to pitch both hands and same at bat? Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:27:59 Same at bat. There used to be a guy whose glove was webbed on both sides and he'd flip from one pitch, he'd throw right-handed. Next pitch, he'd throw left-handed. He wasn't playing in the bigs. I think he played like Creighton or something like that. He wasn't throwing very hard, but he did both. Could you, Pat? I mean, Paul,

Starting point is 01:28:15 let's take this to the next level. Let's start throwing with both arms. You just started throwing a hundo with your right arm a couple years back, which is why everybody in Pittsburgh is so damn excited. This guy's just getting started in this entire yeah just getting started and when you started you decided you wanted to do it the right way too we learned about you donating to the gary sinise foundation hundred dollars per strikeout seven hundred dollars already donated after his first four innings in the majors.

Starting point is 01:28:45 And we would like to let you know, before you even open up about why you chose to do this, which is an incredibly cool thing, that the current record for a nine-inning game is 20 strikeouts. If you get to 21, we'll donate a million to the same foundation for you. So if you get 21 strikeouts in a nine-inning game, because there's a 16-inninger in the history that got 21. What's that? It's a new day, obviously. We're just saying if we get to the situation.

Starting point is 01:29:16 It's a perfect game. We need one. Yeah, absolutely. 21 is right. We'll donate a million bucks to follow this. But why'd you choose to do this? And thank you for doing this. This is a cool thing. Paul Skeens.

Starting point is 01:29:28 Thanks for the shout-out with that, guys. It was something that we did. I worked with Folds of Honor last year at LSU doing a similar thing. It was $10 for strikeout band.

Starting point is 01:29:48 I was at the Air Force Academy for two years, and that had a profound impact on my life that continues now. I miss those guys. And, you know, the people that I was talking with some people yesterday because there was a tweet that came out about the plans that we flew to two away games. And so I got asked a lot about the Air Force Academy yesterday, incidentally. But now it's just the people that you're going to meet there, the people that I met and everything that I've gained from being from there is just unbelievable. And so obviously I'm not there anymore. Yep, that's the one.

Starting point is 01:30:27 And obviously I'm not there anymore, but just trying to find ways to give back to that community that's done so much for me. That's awesome. It's incredibly cool. You didn't have to do that. You chose to do that. There's a lot of people that say they would do that and don't actually do

Starting point is 01:30:40 that. So you putting your money where your mouth is is sweet. We'll donate $100 alongside of you for every strikeout. And then if we get 21, nine innings, though. Hey. Okay? You got it. Let's not be doing the 10, 11-inning thing.

Starting point is 01:30:56 No, no, no. Okay? We can't be nine. A million bucks wide on top of it. Keep crushing it. We're incredibly lucky to get to watch you do your thing. Can't wait to see how great you get and thank you for doing it in Pittsburgh, pal.

Starting point is 01:31:07 Even though you didn't really have an option. No. Wouldn't want to do it anywhere else. This place is awesome. Love that. If we call you big country, not good because you're from California or you're from the beach? Hey, big country, gas station, whatever you want.

Starting point is 01:31:23 I'm good with it. I need a nickname. Is the gas station already taken? It has to be already taken. I don't think so. Oh, no. You're good. Because it's just gas, bro.

Starting point is 01:31:33 Yeah. At all times. There's some stats about how many hundos you throw, and you probably get forced to look at them and everything like that. It was... There it is. The Velo. Yeah, this one.

Starting point is 01:31:44 Fastest pitches by an MLB starter this entire year. The guy whose name is up there, you know, the whole time, he's only played four innings. He's only played four innings in his entire day. That's the fucking gas station. Yeah, that's right. Only serving gas. We appreciate the hell out of you, Paul.

Starting point is 01:32:02 Keep enjoying yourself, and hopefully we'll get to talk to you again soon. Yeah, will do. Appreciate you guys having me again. Ladies and gentlemen, Paul Skeens. Yay! Gas station! I like gas station.

Starting point is 01:32:14 I don't mind gas station. That's good. I was thinking if you want to do big sheets, but gas station is. Yeah, gas pump. Station with two S's. Gas. Yeah. Because he's got's. Gas. Yeah. Because he's got that.

Starting point is 01:32:26 Uh-huh. Was that AI, you think? What was that? You think they AI'd his ass? He looked like that one guy who's on the internet with the fake ass. Uh-huh. I know what you're talking about. The khakis do that, the angle, but I mean.

Starting point is 01:32:41 It wasn't the pleats. Is that what you were saying? It's the pleats? No, I'm just saying it was khakis. Because that guy on the internet wears khakis all the time. He's not doing that just for fun. Skeens has a dumper. Yes, correct. That's the bottom line

Starting point is 01:32:54 here. That's how you throw a hundred. Yeah, who throw gas. Massive ass on all of them. And they just seem to go on and on and on and on. Alright, well thank you to Paul Skeens. Best pitching prospect they said in, I don't know,

Starting point is 01:33:10 forever. Since Steven Strasburg, for real. That was the last one who was kind of similar and he got drafted like I think 15 years ago. Where'd he go? Washington? Yeah, and went to Arizona State against the Air Force incidentally in his last game. He threw like a no-hitter at 17 strikeouts.

Starting point is 01:33:26 All right, baseball is happening. 175 more games for every team. That guy will pitch another 24 times. We will certainly be paying attention when that's taking place. Let's talk about big news in the NFL that took place overnight. The Detroit Lions continue to dig into this vault of money that they have found, investing in a team that has brought them more happiness than potentially any Detroit Lions team has in the past.

Starting point is 01:33:49 Jared Goff has signed an extension with the Detroit Lions. $170 million guaranteed on a four-year deal. Now, everybody remembers that when Jared Goff was traded away from the Los Angeles Rams to the Detroit Lions due to a vacation in Mexico in which Matty Stafford and Sean McVay and Andrew Whitworth and

Starting point is 01:34:14 Jay Glazer and Drew Brees were all having the time of their lives and decided that they needed to work together. Jared Goff was kicked out of town. One of the big reasons why the Detroit Lions ended up with Jared Goff is because they were willing to take on the tab in which Jared Goff was being paid, which was like $30 million a year. Everybody in the NFL, a lot of fans were like, who's going to take a $30 million cap hit for Jared Goof? Nobody wants that guy. Now,

Starting point is 01:34:39 here we are a few years later. The Detroit Lions are NFC favorites, Here we are a few years later. The Detroit Lions are NFC favorites. And Jared Goff just signed for another $170 million. What a glorious tale. What a Detroit glorious tale of two things coming together, being perfect for each other, Evan Fox. This was an absolute no-brainer, worth every single penny. First quarterback in my life for the Detroit Lions to win the NFC North

Starting point is 01:35:03 and to win a playoff game, won multiple playoff games. And Pat, when we were at the draft, you made a really good point. Detroit doesn't have a chant, but they do now with Jared Goff. It literally is just his name, Jared Goff, Jared Goff. And they're not just doing that at Ford Field. They were doing that at Little Caesars Arena, four Red Wings game. They were doing it at the draft. I love this. I'm so happy for this guy. And yeah, like now we're set. Four years of Jared Goff, four Red Wings games. They were doing it at the draft. I love this. I'm so happy for this guy. Now we're set. Four years of Jared Goff. Four years of having a

Starting point is 01:35:29 Super Bowl window. It's awesome. What's wrong, Connor? Why are you shaking his head? Thumbs over. In a good way. The words that just came out of Foxy's mouth, if you were to tell me that that's how it would turn out for Jared Goff after the Rams, I would have said you are the most insane person on the face of the planet.

Starting point is 01:35:48 He just said thank God for Jared Goff, and that was a dream. What did you guys go his first year, 3-14? Yes, we started out 0-10, legitimately thought we were going to go 0-17 in Jared's first year. Another reason why I love him so much because you just stuck it out, and now he's a fan favorite. Everyone loves him. Holmes, MCDC, Jared Goff,

Starting point is 01:36:08 that's Detroit Lions football AJ. The NFC North is going to continue to have the wagon moving through the Motor City. I mean, look at the NFC North getting better and better. Okay, with Foxy and how juiced he is, I'm just wondering if this went another way. Let's say they try to lowball him. Let's say

Starting point is 01:36:23 they didn't try to give him this gigantic contract, which I think he absolutely deserves, would you be up in arms going crazy if they couldn't figure this out? Yes, I would be, because this is one of my favorite parts of what the brand new Lions are doing, is they're doing everything correctly. They're treating everyone right. They gave St. Brown a deal.

Starting point is 01:36:40 They gave Sewell a deal. They mended fences with Calvin Johnson. They have done everything right. The draft, an absolute success, and now you've got to pay the guy that absolutely deserved it. One new playoff game, one NFC North, one of the best quarterbacks that are successful seasons for a quarterback

Starting point is 01:36:55 in Lions history at this point. Well, listen, we're celebrating. You don't have to do your backpedal there. Yeah, I didn't. I love Matthew Stafford, so I didn't want it to make it sound like i already jumped ship from stafford because i love him this doesn't happen way more than stafford has well actually i saw a bunch of stats uh with warren sharp uh put out and it's like since trade stafford with la Goff with Detroit, there's a lot of statistics that you can find that are like,

Starting point is 01:37:27 hey, he's the same exact guy. This is the same exact situation that's taking place. And once again, back to your point, three years ago, this was not the story being told. Three years ago, four years ago, this was not how this was being talked about. And remember, MCDC was a big dumb dipshit. Remember how stupid he was four years ago in everybody's eyes around the sports media?

Starting point is 01:37:48 Obviously, now that you know our show, we were not on ESPN at the time. We were on the internet. We obviously loved MCDC. In press conference, if you haven't seen us react to it literally day of, it is exactly how you would think it would go with us, with him speaking the way he is. But they were mocked and ridiculed and buried. And not that the Detroit Lions weren't already underground from being buried by the rest of the NFL and the media for the last 30 years.

Starting point is 01:38:13 But it was like, this is the dumbest they've ever been. And now their fans, they're looking forward to Thanksgiving games. They're looking forward to, you know, primetime games every single week, seemingly. It's a brand new world up there. And that's power of the NFL. Yeah. I mean, you know, primetime games every single week, seemingly. It's a brand-new world up there, and that's the power of the NFL. Yeah. I mean, you love to see this. And it's not like, you know, Jared Goff is this underdog story. It kind of seems that way.

Starting point is 01:38:33 But he was the number one pick, went to Super Bowl, I think, on his rookie deal. But for what he's done, going to the Lions, everybody thought, hey, this is going to be a bridge guy set up for their next quarterback. So for him to turn this franchise around, be a big part of turning this franchise around, then getting another big deal. I think he's only 29, too, which is kind of surprising. Seems like he's been in the league forever, but still, you know, young in the 30s. So you're expecting to get another deal.

Starting point is 01:38:56 And then it's kind of sets up for the other quarterbacks out there that's going to get paid, you know, soon that you expect to get paid. Dak, Tua, Jordan Love, you know, all these guys are definitely chomping at the bit. But love to see this for Jared Goff. Definitely deserves it. And his film for the last few years, I mean, it's been phenomenal. That offense. And he's got his offense coordinator again.

Starting point is 01:39:14 Ben Johnson's back for another year. So they got all the trick plays. They're not scared to use them. They got the power running if you need it. They have all their weapons and added to it back. It's like the Detroit Lions are for real. And if you're in Green Bay. You're not worried at all.

Starting point is 01:39:31 Uh-oh. But sure. It's awesome that the Lions are for real like it is. But again, I said it in Detroit. I'm not over here like, oh, my God, the Lions are so good. Okay. They are good. That's great.

Starting point is 01:39:42 And I'm happy for Foxy because they've been sucked for a long time. Long time. A long time. You're very good. Okay. They are good. That's great. And I'm happy for Foxy because they've been sucked for a long time. A long time. You're very good. I try. I'm not worried about it. They embarrassed the Packers at Lambeau early in the season and then what did the Packers do? They embarrassed them on Thanksgiving Day.

Starting point is 01:39:59 Beat the shit out of them. Beat the absolute shit out of them. So again, I'm not going to be backtracking. Again, the Lions have a couple of Iowa guys who are also instrumental in them turning things around. So I appreciate that. I love that. You mentioned guys getting paid.

Starting point is 01:40:17 Guess who Jordan Love's agent is? Who's that? Mr. Mulegata. Oh, my God. Wow. They're going to have to give him a percentage of the talent. Jordan Love's going to be the first quarterback to be making $125 million a season. I think so.

Starting point is 01:40:29 They're going to guarantee him maybe a billion-dollar contract. I'll pound the pavement for it. If Mologueta is the one doing the negotiating, we just assume it's going to be the highest the position has ever seen. He got $170 million guaranteed right there. That's $60 million less than Deshaun Watson. That's right. And guaranteed money.

Starting point is 01:40:48 Whoa. $60 million less. That was literally my first thought as soon as I saw it. What a contract. I'm an asshole for that. What a contract. Yeah, absolutely. And you think about all Jared Goff has done for Detroit.

Starting point is 01:41:00 Yeah. All Jared Goff. He's changed everything. He's changed the whole world there. Everything's different now. When we were at the draft, everyone, Jared Goff. He's changed everything. He's changed the whole world there. Everything's different now. When we were at the draft, everyone was wearing Lions gear. Everyone had jerseys, merch, you name it. It wasn't always like that.

Starting point is 01:41:13 It was actually frowned upon, and you were looked at kind of like a loser if you wore Lions gear. That's what Jared Goff has done for Detroit. Thank you, Jared. Thank you, Jared. They want the Jared. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. But stick in the NFL.

Starting point is 01:41:26 We have some games that have been leaked by the networks, which will be broadcasting them, obviously, 114 days from now, September 5th. The Ravens will travel to Kansas City to take on the Chiefs in Banner Night. September 6th in Sao Paulo, Brazil. The Packers

Starting point is 01:41:42 will have to find a runway long enough to get a plane out of town to take on the Philadelphia Eagles. Then in Tom Brady's debut broadcasting game, we assume at the four o'clock slot, Cowboys will be taking on the Browns on Fox. And then Monday night football, week one, is the New York Jets taking on the San Francisco 49ers, who are obviously in Santa Clara. That should be a rompous atmosphere and fantastic. We're going to learn a lot about Aaron Rodgers and the Jets there in week one

Starting point is 01:42:16 and also about the Niners returning. We also know in week two, actually the first Thursday night football game, Bill's Dolphins will play an AFC East rivalry. We'll kick off Kirk Herbstreet, Al Michaels, Kaylee Hartung, Andrew Whitworth, Richard Sherman, Tony Gonzalez, Carissa Thompson, Marshawn Lynch, Ryan Fitzmagic, Michael Smith.

Starting point is 01:42:45 Taylor Ruff. We'll have an incredible year to start with the Bills and the Chiefs. Also, week two, the Bengals will take on the Kansas City Chiefs. Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes will battle in week two.

Starting point is 01:43:02 All those other games will be week one. Tomorrow night, the schedule will be fully released on ESPN and ESPN+. We did reach out to our source at the league office and say, can you just give me like a low-profile one? Just like one we can make a big mockery out of. Like a week seven. Because everybody else is seemingly leaking this shit. And then I got the quick mention.

Starting point is 01:43:21 These are from the networks that paid billions of dollars. They're the ones that are getting the first game. Oh, okay. We didn't know if we were just potentially. We don't know if you can send one this way. How do they choose what to leak? How do they choose or how do they get to choose which games they leak? It's the networks doing the.

Starting point is 01:43:36 So it doesn't matter. Do you think the league frowns upon it? The league knows what's going on. No, I think that's part of the song and dance. It's a build up. Yeah, here we go. Let's just keep dropping little. Let's just keep dropping little ones. Then boom, we'll drop it all tomorrow.

Starting point is 01:43:47 Yeah, like Ravens-Chiefs. It's like, oh, shit, we're in schedule release time. And, oh, shit, that's a great game. It's a brilliant idea. That's why we called our sources at the league office, and we're like, hey, can you just give us some game? Just give us some game that we can just act like is a big deal and then say, hey, schedule release is coming.

Starting point is 01:44:04 They're like, absolutely not. We signed NDAs. We're not allowed to do that. I mean, we're on NDAs. We couldn't get like a Cardinals, Commanders, Monday Night Football announcement. That's what I'm saying. Like, just give us some game.

Starting point is 01:44:13 Like something. Absolutely not. It was like one of the fastest. No, yeah, okay, yeah. The people that are getting this information have paid billions of dollars to the league. Whatever. Okay.

Starting point is 01:44:24 We just wanted to talk about week nine. Yeah, Colts Patriots. Yeah, something going on over there in Germany, maybe. Yeah, boom. That'd be kind of cool. Didn't that happen last year? Maybe run it back, same game. Why not?

Starting point is 01:44:35 It was a great atmosphere. Everyone loved it. It could become a tradition. I love tradition. I do, too. I do, too. Every time I go to Greenville, South Carolina, I get to watch an incredible Monday Night Raw. Every time I go to Greenville, South Carolina, I get to watch an incredible Monday Night Raw.

Starting point is 01:44:47 Every time I go to Greenville, that gets me. Where is that game at, Tom's first game? Is that in Cleveland? Cleveland, yeah. That sucks for your first game. What? Welcome to hell, Tom. Better that than...

Starting point is 01:45:00 The guy's got to go to Cleveland for his first game? That's memorable. It is. It's right there. Think about his view. The lake is. It is. It's right there. Look, think about his view. The lake is right there from where he's looking at. He probably bought a seaplane in. He might have Jimmy Graham.

Starting point is 01:45:10 He probably never lost that, so I guess it's good memories. Speaking of Jimmy Graham, I tweeted him mid-show. I tweeted him mid-show, mid-conversation, because something got sent in. These killer whales flipped the sailboat. No, no. They flipped the sailboat. Killed him. A yacht, I believe it was. A yacht. It killed the people? I didn't know it killed them. Yeah, no. They flipped the sailboat. Killed them. A yacht, I believe.

Starting point is 01:45:25 A yacht. It killed the people? I didn't know it killed them. Yeah, what do you think they're doing? This is like the seals on the ice. They're getting you out off there so you become the chum. We're killer whales. Good Lord.

Starting point is 01:45:34 They're not living whales. They're killer whales, okay? They didn't give them CPR on the ice. Yeah, so as soon as I saw CBS Sports, or CBS, not CBS Sports, CBS News report this about these killer whales getting smarter and getting smarter. I go, hey, Jimmy Graham, how are we handling this type of shit in the Arctic, pal? You know, because they're up there. He goes, yes, that's a bit of a concern.

Starting point is 01:45:52 We will have a game plan for sure. Even if I got to jump on it and ride it like Avatar to sacrifice for my team. Whatever it takes. See, that's what I'm saying. I understand he's the eternal optimist. I respect and appreciate that. Somebody needs to keep it real with this guy. understand he's the eternal optimist. I respect and appreciate that. Somebody needs to

Starting point is 01:46:04 keep it real with this guy. Somebody needs to tell him there are killer whales in the Arctic Ocean ready to kill your big ass. And look how big he is on that boat. They're eating him first. No doubt about it. I'm pretty sure killer whales do not like it when people jump on their backs. So if that's Jimmy's

Starting point is 01:46:20 plan, I would get a new one because that's going to piss him off. I hope he can hold his breath because that thing's going deep piss him off. I hope he can hold his breath because that thing's going deep down in there. SeaWorld. I don't know what kind of weight they can carry on this thing. They need a couple rocket launchers and a couple rockets. Oh, yeah. You see a killer whale? Dynamite. Blow that thing

Starting point is 01:46:36 to smithereens. Or sonar guns. RPGs. He got RPGs all over that. I don't think you guys are allowed to kill killer whales. If they're trying to kill you, they're trying to kill you. You're in their house and you signed up to go on a canoe in the middle of the Arctic. If it's self-defense, there is no maritime law that says you can't do that. Yeah, I thought. They can gamble out there, too.

Starting point is 01:46:55 They should get a casino. Whoa, whoa, whoa. The crew members of the attack survived. Okay, good. That's a whole different story. Okay. The whales, they only killed the boat. Well, it was getting solved.

Starting point is 01:47:05 These whales are dumb. They eat wood. Everybody thinks these AIs are going to take over. Their Photoshop's are shit. Their video editing is crap. Crap. Complete crap. They don't know what's good and what's bad.

Starting point is 01:47:19 They have no sense of taste, and they never will. These killer whales eat wood. I mean, we have to consider the fact that the brand new Pizza Hut cheeseburger was on the boat and that maybe they smelled that and just went straight for the hubby. I did not do enough research. I was in the middle of something. I did see that Pizza Hut is debuting a burger.

Starting point is 01:47:36 Hello, heaven. Yeah, Pizza Hut's done it again, you know, and water is wet. So, I cannot wait getting it tonight. I hope it's all locations and not just a couple select few You should not eat that You better have your dude wipes handy You should do it right before show tomorrow

Starting point is 01:47:53 I will And you know what I'll bring in a night time diaper That my daughter wears With dude wipes in there obviously I'll use that to clean up It's a bath for your ass It's dude life's just pizza hut just doing it again changing the game they're paul skeins they are that's all they do they're painting it they just the gas station is a good nickname

Starting point is 01:48:15 great oh yeah i think we fix jeez want a better burger is that that's just a cow that's a burger that's just a calzone no no it's a burger. It looks like a folded piece of pizza, which would be a calzone. It doesn't look great. Whoa. Excuse me. AJ, AJ, AJ. We got to hold up. D-Bot, stop.

Starting point is 01:48:35 I love Pizza Hut. That doesn't look great. Shut up. This is not how we're... I can't believe this is how we're ending Fast Talking Tuesday. You're up against it. Yep. Fast Talking Tuesday ends with a bunch of bullshit You're a piece of shit, AJ

Starting point is 01:48:50 We'll be back tomorrow, hope you choose to watch See you then, goodbye Hope you're happy, AJ Do you want me to lie? Should I lie about it? I think D-Butt might have a little bit of trepidation as they say One more for AJ being a piece of shit. Hole's getting smaller.

Starting point is 01:49:10 I think the hole's getting smaller over here. It looks like it. What was that all about? What you guys chose to do? We got to be honest. Come on now. Be honest? Exactly.

Starting point is 01:49:17 Did you see the logo that's on there? Did you see the logo that's on there? Pizza Hut. Yeah, you see it? You know what that means? It's good. It's fire. They're not just

Starting point is 01:49:25 rolling out some shitty tasting something never nobody questions when they said a cheeseburger but that's just a calzone and that looks delicious yeah bingo you said nobody's uh nobody nobody best thousand you're gonna beat up a face literally everything yeah delicious thousand little slices of wings that burger looks like dude it's not a burger wings that burger looks like shit dude it's not a burger you sack of actually don't love burger yeah this may be pizza's biggest miss is calling it a burger because that's going to turn people away it turned me away immediately because when they called it a burger they would have just said hey we got a delicious calzone i would have been all in we got burger calzone yeah i want a better calzone is what should be on the car that could be beef sausage though not italian sausage

Starting point is 01:50:03 still you know i learned about some bison sausage you could potentially get. Yeah, that's right. Out there in the Great Plains. We shouldn't talk about that. Talked to a guy from Nebraska earlier today. He had a cowboy hat. He's fast talking. All you need to make him, 24 years.

Starting point is 01:50:16 Hey, whatever. Hey, number five. Hey, number four. Hey, number three. Hey, number two. So good. We're going to go spend, you know, because we're off Thursday, Friday, because the PGA Championship is on everything.

Starting point is 01:50:28 And it sounds like the PGA Championship is about to be the real deal. Oh, yeah. We don't like to do spoilers too much because who would we be to spoil the ending of things? History tells us that Rory McIlroy is winning this weekend. That's right. Oh, yeah. This close to a major championship. Fresh off a win somehow, now that we're learning everything.

Starting point is 01:50:45 He's doing a divorce right the fuck now. Filed Monday of the major, yeah. Wins a tournament, divorce, major. Rory McIlroy golf happening right now.

Starting point is 01:51:01 If you were to take a trip back in time, and we have the stats now. 2014. Rory McIlroy had a massive breakup. Very public. Tennis player. Yes. Caroline Wozniak. Nailed it. That was 2014. PGA Championship was where?

Starting point is 01:51:17 Valhalla. Where's the championship at this week? Valhalla. Oh, boy. He had a massive breakup then. Wins PGA Championship in Valhalla goes on to have the best year's number one golfer in the world divorce happening Monday right wins tournament weekend before yep going into Valhalla again Roy McIlroy doesn't have his mind on anything else right now but golf this is flu game situation this is where you don't let anything outside of anything other than golf affect your mood. You're in a new era.

Starting point is 01:51:48 You're a new you. You get to pick whatever the fuck you want to focus on and do for your entire day. Rory has proven to us in the past what he's going to do in this situation is go right to the range, right to the green, right to the sand. He's going to be golfing phenomenal. He drove on 358 this past weekend. A little anger coming out with the big stick. And we don't know who's – we assume it was his fault as well. But we're not saying –

Starting point is 01:52:13 Yeah, that is not – That they're not placing blame. We're not saying there's any blame here. Who knows how that goes. And I assume it's not easy being married to a golfer who travels six days a week for 48 weeks like we saw on I'm a Swing. I'm a Golfer.

Starting point is 01:52:29 I Golf on Netflix. So we're not saying anything about that. But what we are saying is history has showed us that Rory's about to lock the fuck in. And maybe this weekend's the time for him to get back on a major stage. Think about it. That's the only place he can go where it's kind of calm,

Starting point is 01:52:47 and that's where he can go get away from everything happening around you, and that's where some of these guys seem to play their best golf, don't they? They get dialed in. They kind of get in the zone. Yeah, they're not the only ones. There's other sports where this has happened. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 01:52:58 Yeah, not just sports. It happens in life, too. You know, revenge bodies they talk about. You know what revenge bodies are? That's like somebody saying, I need to fucking change. You know what I mean? And maybe there is spite for, like, fuck that person. But also, it's like, yeah, I get a chance to, like, kind of restart my entire story here.

Starting point is 01:53:16 Everything getting kind of new beginning. So you see people. Normally, it's like a new year. It's like you got new rules, you know, resolutions. I'm going to start eating healthier. I'm going to go to Islam and take care of myself i'm gonna love my i'm gonna do this whole thing i'm gonna focus in i'm gonna get more work on it's like that is really what happens uh for some people not everybody yeah some people go the complete opposite direction

Starting point is 01:53:35 but i'm just saying those who have proven to be able to do in the past i think we should think about potentially that's always interesting revenge body shit and why not do that while you're in a relationship? Yeah, how do you do that? Yeah, how do I get that motivation but not have to blow up my life? Yeah, well, and also – True. Yeah, comfort, but then also I think, like, things just start happening.

Starting point is 01:53:55 Like, for instance, if the Green Bay Packers would have drafted a wide receiver in the first round and Aaron went to those OTAs at the Jets, the conversation was about to brew. Like, why didn't we – hey. When you had – at a wide receiver in the first round. And Aaron went to those OTAs at the Jets. The conversation was about the brew. Like, why didn't we, hey. When you had. Why didn't we do that? And that's just one instance of many that is taking place.

Starting point is 01:54:16 Like a butterfly effect? Other than just, no, I'm just talking about like some people just get in and it does take like a perspective to be like, all right, we got to do something different. But Rory, I think, is about to fucking be. Yeah. Scotty just had a baby. Yeah, it's breakup game versus new dad game. Wow.

Starting point is 01:54:31 Very interesting. That's difficult. Rudy Gobert, most recent new dad game. He hasn't played very well. Brandon Carlo as well. He has scored two goals since having his baby. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he had the bar down.

Starting point is 01:54:41 Yes, he did. The night after. Just had his first win. Capco, yep. Since Benadette. Scheffler has his beard still. He has never lost with a beard. He has no time to shave now.

Starting point is 01:54:50 Beard and a baby, wow. Dangerous. Is he going to be too tired? Because he is a newborn father. Yeah, and with Scottie Scheffler, we assume he's very, that's going to be a hands-on guy. Good dad. I think his new baby is coming to the course, though. You think they're coming?

Starting point is 01:55:04 Well, you can't fly that young. My guess would be no. Think about how happy. Get to the course. Get some sleep when he gets to the course. Bingo. That's what I was about to say. Think about Scotty.

Starting point is 01:55:13 Not happy that he's missing valuable time, obviously. Skin to skin. Mana. We're building. But also, I get to sleep. Whoa. In a hotel or a house by myself. And just playing golf.

Starting point is 01:55:23 Good sleep. Wait a minute. Just playing golf? What if he's going to be better? He's going to get much better now. Holy smokes. Is anybody yelling in my ear? Just, rah! No words. Just, rah! Is that happening? Am I wiping poop? Is there poop?

Starting point is 01:55:38 No, no poop. You're going to have to fill a divot maybe or something. Yeah, I fucking can't wait to come play. You guys need me for the pro game? What night should I go? You're going to have to fill a divot maybe or something. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I fucking can't wait to come play. This is going to be great. You guys need me for the program? What night should I get up? Go weekend. Okay, Scott, we are in for some good golf.

Starting point is 01:55:52 Yeah. The majors are just so much better. Every year it starts with the Masters, and I feel like we relearn, like, oh, yeah, this is what we want in every single golf weekend, but now we only get it four times a year, so we've got to cherish them even more. Dude. One a month. So we'll be watching that golf on Thursday and Friday

Starting point is 01:56:09 while we're at Mecham trying not to buy every car. Yep. AJ. How many are you going to get? For real, how many are you going to... Over, under five? No, no, no, no. Come on, come on, come on.

Starting point is 01:56:18 Okay, I'll take the over. I'll take two and a half. No, you've got to remember, I'm not a big fan of dealing with shit. You know, like, if there's any shit that's involved with with it, like shit, I'm probably not going to do it. Like you will normally see me doing stuff where there isn't a bunch of shit. Paperwork that has to be signed. Insurance that has to be got.

Starting point is 01:56:37 You know, registration. Like all the shit that comes. If it was just look, buy, walk out, see you later. This is now your car. You got to write a letter for that whole thing, cool. There's a full on, you know, when you buy a car, there's a lot of shit that has to happen, you know? I think of those things, you kind of go in with your little paddle, you get pre-approved, like boom, I'm driving home with that thing right now. Yeah, you do.

Starting point is 01:56:58 But afterwards, you got to go, now you got to go sign for everything. Yeah, you got to fill a bunch of shit out. Yeah, you got to go sign for everything. I got it. I'm with you. I understand that. You start buying a car, you know, like when you buy a car the worst part of buying a fucking car is that yeah everything else the whole you know this we told you this

Starting point is 01:57:13 you gotta you should talk to him can you tell him hey i'll pay i'll pay five grand extra if you guys handle all that garbage well they still i don't want to do that obviously i don't i want to do that but it's like also i do that, but it's like, also, I think that's just a part of it. I have to fucking... You acknowledge that you just spent $100,000 on a Jeep that you won't

Starting point is 01:57:35 be able to drive? That was me. Let me sign this one. Alright, now you're going to tell your bank that you're buying? It took like an hour. It was a whole process. That was one car. So it's like, you know. All right, now you're going to tell your bank that you're buying? Okay. It took like an hour. It was a whole process. After buying. Yeah, it's like a whole process. That was one car.

Starting point is 01:57:48 So it's like, you know. I thought maybe you'd get Sam the sweet truck with the flames on it, and then you were going to get something else for yourself, possibly? Last night, we did have discussions about that. Ooh. How sweet. Would you look bright in that, Sam? You could drive that.

Starting point is 01:58:01 I told him, I almost got it for you. You know, you saw the picture. No, he didn't want it. You know, I would have, I guess. I would have taken it if I had. I told her, I almost got it for you. You saw the picture. No, if you didn't want it, I would have. I would have. If I had. I guess I would have took it. That thing's still, the bid's still going on. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:58:11 That bid's still going on. Until Gump goes back. That's what I'm saying, Gumpy. Thursday, Friday, I think we're going to be in there, stay fragrant. They just texted me and said, yeah, we got a table or a whole. Come on. Whatever we is. So much fun.

Starting point is 01:58:22 It is a blast. I can't emphasize enough how just entertaining it is. If you like cars, you have to like cars, though. So much fun. It is a blast. I can't emphasize enough how just entertaining it is. If you like cars, you have to like cars, though. I love cars. I don't really like cars that much. Really? Just as a show. There's so much going on.

Starting point is 01:58:35 It's a competition, too. You're not just sitting up there. There are people bidding against each other. It is so much fun. And the aspect of, yeah, I'm sitting next to you and you could buy every single car definitely helps because I can just be like, hey, you should get this one, get this one, get this one. There's a lot of that. I don't know how you're sitting here right now. Look at that thing,

Starting point is 01:58:52 dude. And then they would rev the engine. Oh, bye. Get it, get it, get it. I feel like I can't go because I can't buy a car right now. And if I go, I'm going to want to buy a car. Well, yeah, that's part of it. That's like you're going to a casino. You're going to vegas you're just writing off like all right i'm gonna lose this amount of money i'm gonna buy i'm gonna buy a fire flame truck i'm gonna do that

Starting point is 01:59:13 there's a chance for you you can spend uh six hundred thousand on a car or at one point i think there was like a two thousand dollar something that they were just trying to give away basically they made an announcement if you want to if you want to fucking just come get this you can take it no reserve rent a truck to haul all of our cars after thursday oh the car towing and transfer that's a whole nother business yeah that's a whole Florida yeah yeah that's a whole nother business well the truck will be coming through next Wednesday you're gonna have to have it ready at like 4 a.m we have no guarantees that that fucker's not going to slide off and hit another one. That's great business.

Starting point is 01:59:47 Can't wait to sign up for that. How much do I have to pay you? Great. Joining us now is a man who could do any business I think that he wanted to. Because we watched him on a roast on a stage with some of the most talented brains and talkers on earth. He's one of the stars of the show. That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, the host of games with names.

Starting point is 02:00:13 Multiple time Super Bowl champion. Future Hall of Famer. From Kent State. Julian Adelman. What's up, dude? What's up, man? What's up, dude? What's up, man?

Starting point is 02:00:31 AJ, every time I see your chin, I just think of Chindiana Jones, man. Because every time at the Derby I would see you over there, bro. You just are cool. Look at you, bro. Look at you lounging. Your audio sounds unbelievable, by the way. I know, obviously, your show, but, yeah, the podcast. You're doing great, man. Keep killing it.

Starting point is 02:00:45 Just trying to be like you guys, man. Your camera looks really good, too. This is a good setup. Look at the launch. Unbelievable. Very comfortable there. Stuffed back there. Happily miserable.

Starting point is 02:00:55 There's no way you're miserable right now. Look at how fucking comfortable you got to be right now. I mean, there's no way you're miserable at all right now. Get out of here. DB, what's good? Jules, what's good, baby? Good to see you, man. Keep killing it, brother.

Starting point is 02:01:08 Hey, we used to play these charity games, and DB could jump through the roof. We get paid $500. They'd scam the hell out of us. We'd sign 5,000 signatures, but we'd go make 20 grand offseason. Oh, yeah. And DB would be out there doing 360 windmills, bro.

Starting point is 02:01:24 All right, how old were you guys whenever you're doing that Jules rookie 22 23 does that change what the New England Patriots as you grow old honestly like the Pittsburgh Steelers had one of those teams where the players would go play like charity games against like high school teachers I think in some places and then they go play Indianapolis Colts don't that. I'm not sure a lot of places do. I don't think a lot of people would expect the Patriots to have that. Was that like a much different time in the Patriot way, or is that kind of a thing that maybe gets overblown a bit too much? I think it was a thing that gets overblown.

Starting point is 02:01:58 It was just a way for guys that were younger football players to make some money. Some dude out in Boston would wrangle up all the guys that were kind of new to the team, and you'd travel to, like, western Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and you'd play against the Firemen, or you'd play against the high school state champion. They'd sell these things out.

Starting point is 02:02:22 They were fun. It was just a way to get a run for us and get 500 bucks. Yeah, but Bill Belichick didn't say no. That sounds like something Bill Belichick... That was in the offseason, man. We were in spring ball and stuff. I mean, you didn't go that hard. He didn't care about that.

Starting point is 02:02:38 See, that's the thing. I think we're all learning. Do you remember that? Oh, hell yeah. I remember all those quick five grand here and there. I mean, it was easy being up in Boston. You know, you play for the Patriots. You go anywhere, show up, sign some autographs, do anything, quick five, six grand, depending on who you were. It's awesome.

Starting point is 02:02:54 Yeah, Vinatieri used to tell these stories about this pizza company he would do commercials with. And then – Papagino's? Maybe. Papagino's. Is that who it was? Probably.

Starting point is 02:03:03 He was talking about that because the Colts would,ts would bring over a sponsorship opportunity in Indianapolis, and Vinny would be like, I'm not going to do that for $750. You know, I'm a Hall of Famer. And he wouldn't say that, but he would just always be busy. And I'm like, yeah, I'm not doing anything for $750 either. He goes, you should have seen what it was like up in Boston he absolutely loved it does it feel like home still for you up there every time you go up obviously you're the only one out of the group right that didn't go on to play

Starting point is 02:03:33 uh somewhere else so I feel like that love is going to be forever for you up there in Boston yeah you know I I live in LA now because my daughter's out here she started kindergarten so I I'm back and forth to Boston. I still have my spot there. And it's true, man. Like, it's crazy. When I leave L.A. now that this is my home, I don't feel like when I come back here, it's home. But anytime I go back to Boston, I mean, I was there for 13 years.

Starting point is 02:04:01 It feels like home, you know. there for 13 years it feels like home you know so you know being part of that culture and and that whole beast that it is being part of a boston sports team i mean it's it's awesome it's it's a cool thing to be a part of i mean right now you got this you got the socks going you got the celtics the bruins are hanging on by thread. Oh, no. By thread. By thread, unfortunately. Yeah, Florida Panthers. That's how Florida hockey is.

Starting point is 02:04:29 Fake hockey. They got to figure it out. They look out, too. On that point, even as a rookie second year, we get courtside seats to playoff games. I remember courtside, like Lakers-Celtics finals. Yeah. On the house. Kobe's.

Starting point is 02:04:44 Yeah, exactly. Kobe, KG guy, rest his soul. Like Paul Pierce. We sitting there watching Legends, courtside, just because we, you know, on the path. I thought Boston was a terrible city. No, absolutely not. That's what everyone says because we, you know, we won too much. That's just kind of how it goes when you're the city of champions. Well, Jules, you were obviously

Starting point is 02:04:59 a part of that and let's go and talk about everything that you've, you know, I guess, I don't want to say go through because that would be a negative connotation but because you guys won so much there's so much shit now you know about everything there's so much shit obviously the apple docu series and this roast is like maybe the greatest thing that has happened in 20 i don't know i don't know how long but fucking phenomenal you're one of the stars of that. Jules, let's go. You fucking murdered up there, dude. You knew you were going to crush though, right? You knew that?

Starting point is 02:05:30 I didn't. I was nervous, boys. That was very nerve-wracking. Anytime you jump into an environment with other professionals that do that for a living and have to do what they do and execute in front of 15,000 people at the forum on live Netflix,

Starting point is 02:05:49 whatever it was on. I mean, it's nerve wracking, but I handled it like a football game. I worked with our team, their team. I put together like 12, 13 minutes,

Starting point is 02:06:00 a bunch of jokes. And I went to the comedy store and I performed. Jeff Ross was a huge, like help with me. He's store and i performed jeff ross was a huge like help with me he's like hey i know you're feeling a little nervous why don't you come hit the back set of my my set at uh the laugh or at uh the comedy store so i went up there and that was like 10 times more nerve-wracking because it's super intimate and i had a lot more jokes and i didn't have like prompters anything so i was just reading off cards. So I was like terrified. Thank God I had like a group of – there was like 15 frat kids there that were like full NFL fans that laughed at anything I said,

Starting point is 02:06:34 so I felt cool after the first joke. Boys, you really helped. That was a big assist, boys. That was a big assist. They did. They did. It was awesome. But, you know, going into that, the night of the show,

Starting point is 02:06:46 it was funny because you'd be in the green room. And in our green room, it was me, Randy, Bill, Gronk, and Bledsoe. And you could tell guys were a little nervous. You know what I mean? You could tell. But everyone was trying to play it cool because we're all professionals. But it was 100% like a locker room before a game. Guys are sitting there, kiki-ing, a little joke here or there.

Starting point is 02:07:11 But then you'd see a guy run off to the corner to go look at his jokes and practice his jokes. Bronk went to the bathroom like four times, I think, to run his jokes. It was pregame nerves through the roofs. But ultimately, it was a great experience, a fun experience. And it was kind of like a therapy session. You know what I mean? Aired out a lot of grievances probably through the art of joke out there.

Starting point is 02:07:38 Through the art of joke. Yeah. Through the art of joke. But it was awesome, man. It was great to see Bill there. Boy, there's some tension. Yeah, well, you're talking about Mr. Craft, I think. There's just tension everywhere.

Starting point is 02:07:53 Yeah, no, no, you were talking about that one, though. It's everywhere. Yeah, I watch you and Drew Bledsoe on Games With Names podcast, which is phenomenal. Talk about you trying to give the hooty-hoo to Bill whenever Robert Kraft walked into the room or whatever. Just kind of walking away and then letting it kind of all figure out. Everybody knows, right? I mean, that's the elephant in the room, especially fresh out of the Apple document. That has to be the

Starting point is 02:08:15 reason. Is that what we're thinking? Any kind of separation, you'd ever want to see the parents in the same room at the open house the next night. It's a little weird. But yeah, the whole doc, the whole letting go, it was an eventful last three, four months this year.

Starting point is 02:08:41 Thankfully with Games and Names, we gave a perspective and had Matthew Slater, Matt lights coming on drew blood. So guys that, uh, tie law guys that were part of the dynasty, we gave a little, our own little thing, the inside jokes, the player's perspective, the fun that we had is, let me tell you, you know, there was, it was miserable. Yeah. Who doesn't like, if you're 35 or if you're 31, 32 and older,

Starting point is 02:09:10 what football player ever liked their fucking coach? And excuse my language. Are we past three o'clock? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know you're in LA. You're lounging. What is time? Yeah, I get it.

Starting point is 02:09:20 Who liked their football? No one liked their football. Who likes a guy that makes you run a hill week 17, you know, after you just blew someone out of 30? No one likes that, but you need it and you love it. So that's what it is. Well, we love to hear that because I think there's a chance that a lot of coaches nowadays, and this is a much bigger conversation than that,

Starting point is 02:09:44 and we're not going to dive fully into it, but a lot of guys I think are scared to not be friends with the people that they're coaching, you know? And that's, I don't know if that's ever going to work. Legitimately, I don't know if that's ever going to work at the highest level, you know, whenever people win. Accountability has to be a real thing, and the person that has to hold people accountable, not necessarily always the most liked person in the, you know what I mean? That guy kind of sucks in every conversation. So to your point, I'd like to echo that sentiment. Yeah, I mean, I hated my mom and dad when I had to get cough syrup.

Starting point is 02:10:14 But I had a cough. I hated them. But when that cough went away, I was like, damn, maybe my parents were pretty damn good. Good play there. Solid play there. Fair play. Go ahead, AJ. Jules, getting back to the roast,

Starting point is 02:10:26 I guess, what was your expectations going into it, and who do you think could be the next roast? I'm sure Netflix is thinking off the success of this. Hey, who do we go after next? Who can we get to commit to this? And also, lastly, was Tom. Do you know, is Tom happy with the whole situation? Is he like how it all went down?

Starting point is 02:10:45 I mean, I talked to Tom briefly. He didn't even go to the after party. Jesus Christ, Tom. We had all our guys there. I think he went off to Italy or something. But I think he was happy. And I do believe they'll probably start doing more of these. I mean, it felt like comedy was kind of like coming back

Starting point is 02:11:07 with what you could say here and there. And I tell you who the greatest teammate of the night was, was Kevin Hart opening the thing up, bringing out his jokes. Because a lot of guys were sweating on the barometer of where we could hit, like what subject we could go after. And Kevin, being the guy that he is, he jumped right in, hit the jujitsu instructor right away. So I felt like,

Starting point is 02:11:30 all right, we're good. We're good. And I think it'd be great to have like a Patrick Mahomes or something, you know, like you got to get the biggest stars of the stars or a LeBron or something. I mean, it's got to be the biggest of the sport. You know, if you're going to start doing this for athletes.

Starting point is 02:11:46 I don't know if anybody else has signed up for that. You know, one of the biggest, like, things talked about Tom is Tom Brady was allowed to be coached like everybody else. So if you see Tom Brady getting yelled at on a Monday after a game, you can definitely get yelled at on a Monday after a game. So Tom is like one of his actual traits that puts him above a lot of people is that he has like a thick skin or can take it or whatever, even though some of this shit I assume definitely hit home.

Starting point is 02:12:13 I don't know any other motherfuckers that are considered goats are going to be doing it, especially after watching it. It's like, am I signing up for Nicky Glazer? Tiger's going to do it? Exactly. Like, you think Tiger's going to do it? I don't think so. I don't know. You know? Am think so I mean, yeah, I guess

Starting point is 02:12:29 But Patrick Mahomes, I think he could do it Yeah, especially because of how beloved he is Yeah, for sure He's beloved, and then there's also a lot of material That you could hit with Patrick Mahomes There's a lot of material that you could hit Oh, yeah May not be Patrick

Starting point is 02:12:43 It could be things things around Patrick. But there's a lot of hittable things. It would be fun. I think he would take it right. When you're the guy in the situation, I think Tom comes out looking like flowers in this whole thing. You know what I mean? How he took it and allowed the things to be said about him

Starting point is 02:13:02 in front of everyone. And I think the check was pretty good, too. I don't know. I guess that would be the only great equalizer in the entire thing. You know, because a couple of Tom, we were just talking about Patrick Mahomes, the targets around. Exactly.

Starting point is 02:13:18 From what we read on the internet, there were some targets around. Few of them. Tom, okay, yeah. So Tom didn't go to the after party. The whole Robert Kraft happy ending thing with Jeff Ross, I know it's kind of split. some targets around. Feelable. Tom, they were, yeah, okay, yeah. So Tom didn't go to the after party. The whole Robert Kraft happy ending thing with Jeff Ross, I know it's kind of split.

Starting point is 02:13:31 I assume you've already had to give your, was he actually, I don't think he was actually pissed about that. Do you think he was? Do you think whenever he interrupted that situation? I was right there, and I was like, is this part of, I don't even know. Yeah. I really don't, but it was kind of like, I think it was played off. I don't even know. Yeah. I really don't, but it was kind of like... I think it was played off. I don't know.

Starting point is 02:13:50 I don't know for a fact. I think it was a play. Hey, we're a few days removed from this. You still don't have a fucking answer. You're still over here. I still don't have a clue. You still don't know. I still don't have a clue. Like I said, Tom's in a different time zone right now.

Starting point is 02:14:00 I think he's doing like a boat race in Italy or... I think one of his teams, he's got something going. Seven rings. That's what I get when he sends me the voicemail. You did great for him on Sunday, though. Ty has a question for you. When it comes to the whole Brady-Bill

Starting point is 02:14:19 situation, does it get exhausting how media or whoever is talking about it like they only think that that guys that were there can be in one camp like you can't be a brady and a belichick guy you know like you just said like yeah obviously a lot of guys they fucking hate their coach but you respect the shit out of bill clearly but like does that ever get exhausting or piss you off how it's like hey you can either only be in brady's camp or you can only be in Belichick's camp? And I don't think we've heard anyone who has been like, hey, I was a Belichick guy.

Starting point is 02:14:51 I wasn't necessarily a Brady guy. Yeah, it is very exhausting. And if you talk to a lot of the older generation guys, you know, they were around Tom Brady before he was Tom Brady. And, you know, they understand it too. And then it got to a point. And it's hard to even explain this because you don't want to go on a, on a tangent where one,

Starting point is 02:15:17 I don't, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's very exhausting, dude. Like seriously.

Starting point is 02:15:23 All right. So who's side were you on? Just say you're Tom. Yeah, forever. Yeah, fuck Bill Belichick. I mean, I live in Brentwood because Tom fed me the rock, but I was the football player I was because Bill

Starting point is 02:15:36 Belichick coached me the way he coached me. So, I mean, it was both. I mean, Bill drafted me. He took an opportunity to take a quarterback out of Kent State who could barely throw the fucking ball. No, it was us and Bacon. Turn me into...

Starting point is 02:15:51 Yeah. Yeah. Not only throw, a guy can fuck and punt return, too. What? Most dangerous. Play DB sometimes, too. Oh, yeah. Play DB.

Starting point is 02:16:02 Play safety. You know what I mean? I love them both. I really do. And I really do feel like the kid that has to talk about mom and dad after the divorce. Well, you're doing a great job. You're doing a great job.

Starting point is 02:16:15 And I think you're allowed to respect and appreciate both sides of it. I think that is completely okay. But society, normally, we gotta go one way. Maybe the roast, though, will kind of be the end of that. It won't necessarily be like, hey, it has to be one or the other. Maybe the roast, though, will be the end of that. It won't necessarily be like, hey, it has to be one or the other. No, now it's crafter bill. True.

Starting point is 02:16:30 What if this happens? And this is a conspiracy, or this is just a theory. What if, like, Raiders go down a shithole this year, which they're on par to do, and all of a sudden, Tom gets his 10% and hires Bill to go be the head coach of the Raiders.

Starting point is 02:16:54 They bring some – like, that's some shit that could happen, I bet. Tom's Bill's boss. Wow. AP out after one year. Jeez, that would be wild for AP. Yeah. Flambeau, New Jersey. that would be wild for AP. Yeah. That'd be wild, but could that not happen maybe? Well, I mean, Tom Telesco, imagine GM just getting one year.

Starting point is 02:17:11 See you later, TT. Because of the roast? Because of— Brought them together? Because Julian Edelman delivered a Foxborough High School joke that nobody else on earth could do. That sounds like something he said to fucking everybody. That's what I heard.

Starting point is 02:17:27 When I heard every player go up there and most of them were like, Foxborough High, it's like, oh, that was every fucking day. That sounds like that was every day of practice is what I heard from those jokes. Oh, if there was any kind of fundamentally dog shit play, like just an easy play, like a wide route or a drop ball, it would be the kid down at Foxborough High or it would be like fucking me and Ernie could make that fucking throw.

Starting point is 02:17:54 And Ernie, you guys know of Ernie. I mean, I know DB's heard that a few times. Like, Jesus fucking Christ, just play his goddamn hands, DB. You don't got to get nervous. Just play his hands. I bet it sounds so simple. What's that?

Starting point is 02:18:11 So everything is just. The crazy thing is, though, we would be. Bill would say some shit on like a Friday, like the keys of the games, and DB can second this. And he'd say, all right, this is going to happen. This is going to happen. If we do these two things, this will happen, and then this will happen.

Starting point is 02:18:33 And we'd come in on Monday, and it would go just as he said. And we'd all sit there and look at each other like, this motherfucker, how did he know that? Insane. We would have Sunday meetings, like, you know, coming in. We didn't have to do this with any of the team I was on, but Sunday we would come sunday meetings like you know coming in we didn't do any of the team i was on but sunday we'll come in and have a quick meeting before the game and he will just come in hey you know expect uh expect some hurry up at some point early in this game from the offense blah blah just like jules said and you'll go out there and it just happened every

Starting point is 02:19:00 every time like 99 of the time like how the fuck this dude do this shit? Think about this, Jules, and I know you made a joke out of it, and we don't love it either. I can't wait to hear you and Bill talk, and that should be a whole documentary in and of itself. He's joining us every single Monday. It's like I've heard about these tales that people have said. Like, Lombo's come on and been like, you should see the notes that we have for the game, which you guys ran that fake punt. You should see what he said was going to happen in that game whenever it took play and i'm like oh does he say that we're going to run potentially the worst play in the history he goes in different words yeah yeah he certainly says something like that and it's like i feel like he's still going

Starting point is 02:19:39 to want to do that though you know like the amount of preparation that he has given to football over the last what 40 50 years i'm just like i don't know how he has given to football over the last, what, 40, 50 years? I'm just like, I don't know how he ever shuts that off. You know, you know him a lot better than I do. That's never going to happen, right? He's never going to be able to shut this off? No, I think he's going to take this year as an opportunity to, A, self-scout himself. Like, he's going to sit back and look at his probably 20 years

Starting point is 02:20:05 and he's going to see what he did right, what he did wrong, what he could work on. And then he's going to stay super involved with the game because I think he still wants to coach. So he's going to stay very involved and probably break for whatever segment you guys are going to do. He's going to break down the game as if he was preparing. And you saw that when he went on to your guys' pre-draft special.

Starting point is 02:20:29 It was stupid. I mean, he was still in it, and he was still evaluating the guys. People are all like, butthurt on how he was talking about Drake May, but that's how it's talked about in the war room. Real. There's no cameras. All right, this is what we got to work on. The guy doesn't have five years.

Starting point is 02:20:48 He doesn't have enough experience, and he needs to work on this. Yeah, he's got this, this, and this, but he needs to work on this, and that's what you need to find in that room because that's how you develop players. You need to find out if you just work hard. That's something Bill used to say all the time. He would say stuff like, you can't just go work hard. You can't just go run 50 sprints.

Starting point is 02:21:10 That ain't going to do anything for your game. What you need to do is you need to find a coach, a mentor, a peer. Find out what you have to work on and work hard at that. That's how you improve. So that's the kind of mode he's always in like and you know we have such a sense you know we saw it in the locker room my older years you know it's a sensitive generation coming up where they expect to be pat on the ass for doing your job when that's not how it was with Bill. We were always looking, how do we get better?

Starting point is 02:21:49 You know, let's try. Yeah, we made a 20-yard bow route throw. Yeah, this is National Football League. You're supposed to be able to run that route. You're supposed to make that throw. Now, how do we make the 40-yard stock post? How do we make that goddamn play? Like, you know, that's what it is. It's about getting better, and that's the grind of the NFL.

Starting point is 02:22:08 And I know it's been changing. I don't know any different, but that's what he is. He's a machine. Intentional working, you know? Like, there's a purpose for everything that you do instead of just wasting your energy. It's like every story we hear about his leadership and his coaching is like always just driving.

Starting point is 02:22:25 There is never a finish line here. We are always going and going and going. You talked about what he said about Drake May. He said that about fucking everybody, Jules. Everyone. He had 50 tapes ready. 50 fucking tapes. There's no way we're going to be able to show those.

Starting point is 02:22:42 Never. Never going to be able to show them. And only 32 draft picks. But even them, we're not going to be able to show those. Never. Never going to be able to show them. And only 32 draft picks. But even them, we're not going to be able to show all of them because of the timing or whatever. And he was like, I'd get top 50, no problem. It's like, this motherfucker's scouting everybody in this draft. Nuts. He is still scouting everybody in this draft so that he knows if he was to get back in, he's not going to skip a year of talent out there that he didn't do any research on.

Starting point is 02:23:02 But I think he was enjoying trying to figure out what every player could do to become the best version of himself. And that was kind of what the videos all were. Like, hey, need this, need that. And it was like 35% good for most of these. And then 65% bad. When normally on draft night, it's like 85% good and like 15% going to have a long road, you know, going gonna have to work a little bit but it was like

Starting point is 02:23:26 every single person except for Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. You see his note? Yeah. It's so funny because I used to go I knew Chaddy O'Shea's XO's password so I'd use like the coach's cut ups because then you could get like

Starting point is 02:23:41 you'd see Bill's notes on like a play so you guys know how it goes you break up the, you'd see Bill's notes on like a play. So they break up. You guys know how it goes. You break up the play. You get the formation, the front, the coverage, the situation, and they have it all pretty much like excelled out. And then you'd have BB's comments. You'd have JD's or Josh McDaniel's comments.

Starting point is 02:24:00 And it would be so funny. You'd see good accuracy. And then there'd be like some terrible dog shit play. And it would just be in. You'd see good accuracy and then there'd be some terrible dog shit play and it would just be in all caps WTF? Question mark, question mark, question mark. WTF? What are we doing?

Starting point is 02:24:16 What the fuck? What the fuck? What are we doing? Him typing it. He was trying to get the amount of WTFs. WTF? Question mark, question mark. Covered like a blanket. No one opened. typing it. He was trying to get the amount of WTFs. WTF? Covered like a blanket. No one opened.

Starting point is 02:24:30 It'd be so funny on just his notes. I used to get off. I would just go watch the film just to read his notes. Yeah. He was prepared. NFL Films put together him and NFL Films. Go ahead. That also gave you a kind of a taste of what every opening meeting was like.

Starting point is 02:24:51 Like the team meeting when we used to go to the 8 o'clock meeting or 745 meeting, wherever we'd start. That's what Bill would do. He'd address the team for 45 to 50 minutes as a whole team. Now, I don't know how it is on other teams, but I've talked to other guys where they just break up O and D. He would break down every phase of the game. He'd have like a 45-play cut-up in our team meeting to get ready for the day.

Starting point is 02:25:19 And he'd break down like 14 plays offense, 14, maybe 17 plays defense. Oh, he's more defense. He's a defensive guy. We all know that. And like 13 plays the special teams. And he would go through this and address the team every day on what we had to do because he had the vision for what we wanted

Starting point is 02:25:38 to be. And that's like half of it. Like, what are we going to be? What are we going to prepare for? A lot of guys don't know how to do that. It's funny. His film was awesome. I didn't want to put anything on his plate. We were just pumped he was going to be there.

Starting point is 02:25:55 If he just sat there and had one word every 10 minutes, great. Sweet. You got fucking Bill Belichick here. How many plays do you want me to put film together of all these guys? I'm like, okay, so you're putting film together of all these guys. He was like, well, I don't know. Is that what you want me to fucking do?

Starting point is 02:26:12 And I'm like, you just said you wanted to do that? He was like, well, it's not my fucking show. It's like, okay. I would love for you to put together film on these guys. Well, how many plays? I'm like, all right. Two plays? I'm not going to be able to tell a story with two plays.

Starting point is 02:26:26 Okay. All right, we'll do three plays? we'll do three plays he goes three plays would be good all right and then he comes back he's like some guys if i do a little bit more a little bit less it's okay i'm like bill literally whatever the fuck you want to do all good you know and he's like well it's not my show i'm like bill this is your show this is you are the, you are the dress. You are the football. Yeah. You are the show. So he like wanted to do it. And I genuinely believe that when he was breaking it down, because we, you know, he, he knows everything. He fucking knows everything. He's going to act like he doesn't. I think, but he does. He knows who's seeing what, how they're seeing it. I'm like, Hey, the fans of the teams that draft these players

Starting point is 02:27:03 are going to see this. What you say is going to be their thoughts on the player like that is just going to become their new thoughts so i think whenever he was breaking it down he was trying to like reach the player too that was like hey like here's my thoughts on you as a player as well it was it was cool to kind of watch and then his personality this motherfucker's hilarious jules i assume you knew that obviously everybody knew that behind the scenes. I think the world is just finding that out right now. Yeah, it's been real fun to see him go out and show the personality he has.

Starting point is 02:27:36 Now, it's a dry humor. You see how he kind of humiliated Amendola in the, in the, in the road guys. That's how he would get on guys. He go, Oh yeah. Two 50 last year.

Starting point is 02:27:54 That's, that's a good half for fucking rain. Like, cause he's seen so many different players and he remembers all the plays that like, it's funny to get to see him show kind of what it's like in film now it gets a little crazier but you know the pg version it's been very fun because i think people are reacting to it you know it's it's been really good to see him just get out and kind of show

Starting point is 02:28:19 people the narrative like there's a narrative out right now about him. Like, oh, this guy's so old, he can't fucking go. Yeah, there's no collaborative. Bill, if you have information, Bill will take information from anyone. But if you fuck him on that information and it's not real information,

Starting point is 02:28:40 you're gone. So the whole collaborative thing, if you want to collaborate collaborate let's just have good information let's have a good scheme let's have a good play that works you know that's how he is hey listen if your idea is better than mine we will certainly use it now if your idea is shit it doesn't work out there's a chance we don't use your ideas for a little bit later never again never ever again charges to the game. Charge it to the game.

Starting point is 02:29:06 Go ahead, AJ. Jules, how do you think it's going to be with Mayo there taking over? Obviously, huge shoes to fill. How is it going to be? What do you think he's going to take with him that he learned from Bill? And what kind of new things do you think he's going to inject into that whole franchise? I'm excited for Gerard. I mean, I just saw what he said about Mac Dre or Mac Dre, Drake May.

Starting point is 02:29:30 That's sweet, though. Yeah, Mac Dre is a sick name. We can leave Mac. We can leave Mac for sure. Oh, yeah, Mac. Mac's too well. We'll just do Drake May. I'm a Bay Area guy, and then there's Mac, and then there's now we got Drake

Starting point is 02:29:42 and all this shit, whatever. But I'm excited. You could already see he's starting to use some of that Belichick tone when he said, you know, when he addressed the media about Drake May and he said, oh, well, he has a lot to work on. Like, so you can see that he's using that. He was one of the smartest football players I played with. You know, I had that little stint where I played defense and I knew what I

Starting point is 02:30:06 always had to do, but I just needed to confirm it with Gerard every play because that's the kind of guy Gerard was. He would be able to put everyone in position. He was always great in the locker room. He was a great leader. He could communicate with everyone. I think he's going to bring something different

Starting point is 02:30:22 than what Bill had. The way he communicates is going to be different. You know, he's probably going to be more like a leader or a captain coming down and talking to like a young buck, you know, where you put the arm around like arm around him and kind of like love him up. That's the kind of guy he was. And I'm sure he's probably going to bring that to his coaching style. But he's definitely – I mean, it's going to be insane to watch. Could you imagine following Bill Belichick? That's what I mean.

Starting point is 02:30:57 And Elliot Wolfe, too. Bill Belichick with a rookie quarterback. And no playmakers. Like, what are we doing? Connor has a question for you, actually. I mean, I wouldn't say no playmakers, Jules. I mean, they got a couple guys in the draft. Well, I like Bourne.

Starting point is 02:31:11 I like Hunter, and I like some of these guys, but they need a blue-chip guy that can go down the field. You don't have Tom Brady to be able to just dissect right now. You got a young buck that needs to be loved up, and he needs to have a bunch of little things he can throw to make him feel safe. Let's remember too,

Starting point is 02:31:32 they drafted the guy who led the country in receiving yards per catch and I know you're happy about number 11 Tyquan Thornton. I think he's going to have a great year, but looking at it as a whole. Can we get on the field? If we're going to give the a whole... Can we get on the field? If we're going to give the sticks out, can we stay on the field?

Starting point is 02:31:49 Give the sticks out. This is his year, Jules. We're going to get the sticks out. Have you described 11 as the sticks? Your whole... Yeah, that's great. I'm eager to drop the sticks. Can we not have a hamstring?

Starting point is 02:32:04 I know Bill's Mr. Soft Tissue Hate Guy. Guy hates a soft tissue more than anything. We used to have to do all these goddamn hydration tests, these tests, that test, because of fucking soft tissue. Just drink some water. Headaches, too. I'm sorry for cutting you off. It's clearly a sore subject.

Starting point is 02:32:26 No, the sticks need to be on the field if they're going to be warm. That's what I just heard. Yes, and they're going to be this year. He's going to have a huge year. But, Jules, we haven't really talked about the doc as much, and obviously the reaction to it was one thing. But when you were watching it, what was the feeling, kind of reliving everything, especially, you know,

Starting point is 02:32:44 your catch against the Falcons winning Super bowl mvp even though they really didn't talk about the good stuff that stuff was kind of glossed over but what were your feelings watching that and then also when you saw what brady was like you know his rookie year coming in those early years and how he acted how much different was his transition from when you were you know on the team versus from when uh you know vrabel and those guys were giving him shit yeah um my thoughts were yeah this thing's pretty hollywooded out click baity um that was my initial thought i mean i wasn't really on there because i wasn't talking shit about bill i mean you look at all the guys that were on the damn thing they're talking shit about.

Starting point is 02:33:28 And I love it. I love it because, you know, we're all talking about it. So it's clearly a great production for what they were trying to get out of it. Going to the Brady question. Seeing Tom when he was a young buck. I mean, we always heard the stories and I was really close with a lot of the guys, the Lonnie Paxton's. And I played with Matt light,

Starting point is 02:33:51 Steve Neal early in my career. There were those guys that were there. So they, they always kind of reminded me. And then when it transitioned to the point where he was like larger than life for like a young football player. I kind of took a role where I would humanize him and make fun of him in the locker room and always be on him.

Starting point is 02:34:16 Just because that was the only time anyone really talked to him because everyone was too scared to talk to him. You got to think about it. We're two Super Bowls in during my stint, the guy's been in the league for like 19, 18 years. You know, a kid who's 21, 22 years old comes in, has been watching this guy. Like if Tom gets on him,

Starting point is 02:34:39 the guy could put his tail in between his leg and like go, like he couldn't take it because it's Tom Brady. put his tail in between his leg and like go like he couldn't take it because it's tom brady so like that whole dynamic that the vrabels and and and the brewskis and ty law and kevin falk and troy brown those guys how they treated him it transitioned to like a group of guys that would still bust his balls to try to make him feel like a human around the other guys. And it made him feel comfortable. Yeah. I couldn't even imagine.

Starting point is 02:35:12 Did that work? Yeah, it did. I was just trying to think about the 21-year-old who would be so scared. So scared. I saw that with Peyton, obviously, in our life. 100%. And he would come over and introduce himself to everybody. It's like, we

Starting point is 02:35:25 fucking know. But I think he felt obligated to kind of be... It's hard to remain a human. Isn't it crazy? At that position, the whole world is hoisting you up into your whole life. Now, Tom, obviously different. Pick 199. But it's like, Peyton, since he was

Starting point is 02:35:41 a little kid, was like, this guy's going to be an NFL quarterback. So the teachers are talking to him whenever he's in elementary school like he's gonna be a fucking NFL quarterback middle school high school obviously through college Heisman NFL here we go it's like it's got to be hard to remain human and then you add in the fact Tom Brady's so handsome yeah so fucking handsome in one so I couldn't even imagine that's why he starts eating all that weird shit right because he feels like he has to somehow get better but then how do you remain a human i do not know i don't know how those dudes do it legitimate and like serena think about like serena you become like almost detached from reality oh yeah too like you almost have to be

Starting point is 02:36:20 it's crazy and i couldn't even imagine with tom what it what it became and obviously you've seen it firsthand had to be crazy as well it was it was super crazy i mean when i was a rookie i was 22 years old the guy had three superbowls he's married to like the biggest supermodel in the world and i remember that moment like you just said the first in time i i met him like i dropped my goddamn 10 inch ring playbook when we used to have playbooks. Dropped that thing. I'm like, God damn, this dude is handsome and tall. Cool. Look at this dude.

Starting point is 02:36:52 Yeah. You know, and the cool thing about Tom is he's honestly like a, he's a very genuine dude. And he knows guys' names. And like he talks to guys because he knows what situation he's in you know he knows how guys look at him and he would always kind of he would he would take time out to like mess with guys a little bit here and there like and have conversations with guys because you know when you're in that stratosphere of where he's at he's at the point where and i'm sure peyton was the same way where these guys are trying to get every minute out of the day

Starting point is 02:37:27 of trying to get themselves better. And everything's planned out. Like, all right, these two hours are for my body. These three hours I'm going to break down the two opponents we got going here. I want to work on this technique on practice. Like, these guys are so calculated. For them to take time out of their schedule or their routine

Starting point is 02:37:47 to sit and say, what's up? How you doing, bud? That's a big thing. Yeah, but that's scheduled in. They schedule that in. 9 to 9.30 tomorrow morning, a little fuckery. A little fuckery around the locker room. Maybe sit in a card game real quick.

Starting point is 02:38:03 Well, no, you still got it if you had to. All right, go keep it moving. There was another human who was celebrating a birthday today, I do believe. I found out via your Twitter account. The big Gronk. What a machine. Okay. What an absolute football machine.

Starting point is 02:38:17 And he, I mean, obviously spiking China, Shaw Glass, and then, you know, somebody. That's a whole other conversation. Hey, howdy, baby Gronk. Howdy, whole other conversation. Hey, howdy baby Gronk. Howdy baby Gronk. He was getting attacked obviously all night. He went up there and did his thing. I appreciated him celebrating the joke that he wrote. I do appreciate his delivery.

Starting point is 02:38:35 I like him saying, everybody thinks I'm a big dumb fucking dipshit. I enjoyed his self-awareness during the roast as well. For those of us that only see, yeah, like all I see Gronk doing is having a blast. That is literally the only thing I've ever seen Gronk do. I don't think there's ever been any other video that I've seen than Gronk just fucking dominating a moment and having more fun than anybody. You think he is like a big 13-year-old who happens to be one of the smartest football players to ever play and one of the most gifted

Starting point is 02:39:06 athletes to ever play. Top 100 player and he was still playing. I think the only person that got that title in the history of the NFL. Can you describe him to somebody that maybe has never met him? Like us, for instance, that don't really... You remember that book Clifford, the big

Starting point is 02:39:21 red dog? That's Gronk, okay he's happy as can be always having a good time and and this whole thing that he's a dumb dumb is is ridiculous the guy's actually a savant with numbers and it's crazy i used to bust his balls all the time i'd walk down the like the hallway and i'd drop like a math problem like what's the square root of 144 he'd be like, 12. Anytime we would talk contracts or something, you know when you've got

Starting point is 02:39:50 a State of the Union in a locker room and some guy just got paid or something. You've got these little State of the Unions in certain lockers. We'd sit there and we'd be doing math on how much a dude just got and Gronk would knock it out right away. He's getting $13.5 a year.

Starting point is 02:40:06 It was crazy. The guy knows numbers. So he's a genuine dude. He's great to always be around. And he gets a rap for always partying, but he's actually a health nut. He'll sit there, and you can see him calculating the calories when he's eating something. And he's making a decision on if he should take a third bite or he shouldn't eat it. Like, he does that kind of shit.

Starting point is 02:40:30 Like, he's crazy. He's jock. Actual health nut. Absolutely. Whenever he has fun, it's just public always. And it's like once or twice a year. It's just because he's gronk and he has a lot of fun. But he's actually a health nut.

Starting point is 02:40:43 He doesn't party as much as you think. Always good vibes, though. For three years, we were all pretty nuts, like his first three years. But then after that, he started getting surgeries and stuff. He changed his life completely around and got on that whole TB12 thing. How do you feel about the TB12 thing? A lot of jokes sent to Alex Guerrero. Big pops out of him in the head.

Starting point is 02:41:03 He loved it. Mouth open lights from Alex Guerrero big pops out of him and yeah mouth open lights i love alex okay good i love alex you know i would incorporate a lot of their stuff their techniques their body work some of their dietitian or whatever their diet restrictions i would incorporate a lot of it. He is a smart guy, Alex Guerrero. Tom believes anything he says. He played forever. As a young player,

Starting point is 02:41:36 you have no choice but hey, I'm going to believe him too. The way you said that. He could literally say, Tom, if you eat this dog shit right here, it's going to make you better. Tom would eat it. I'm not joking. What if it made him better? Yeah.

Starting point is 02:41:54 That's what. We're putting some avocado dog shit. Alex, I'm joking, bro. I love you. Alex wouldn't do that. Alex wouldn't do that. We love Alex. Alex got a big pop out of that, I bet. He did. He did. Open mouth pop. He love you. Alex wouldn't do that. Alex wouldn't do that. We love Alex. Alex got a big pop

Starting point is 02:42:05 out of that, I bet. He was laughing. That fucker was laughing. He was laughing. I appreciate how much he was laughing. Those guys would sit, I mean, they would sit and look at timing of everything, like on

Starting point is 02:42:21 when he could eat, when he could sleep, when he needed body rest. Like it was like when we say a machine and not human, it was real, bro. Yeah. The guy would sit and like smell the chicken wings the night before the game. Well, like the linemen are over there taking down chicken wings because we always had the same food, you know, at the hotels. You have the same food every pregame meal. And there would always be chicken wings.

Starting point is 02:42:45 And you see Tom just sit there, and you know he loved a chicken wing. And you just had to use that mental toughness and that chin strength. Just walk right by it. And just give it a smell only. Because he lives it. Hey, he preaches the TB12 shit, but he lives it, man. He really does live it. That's why you respect him. That's good discipline.. He really does live it. That's why you respect him.

Starting point is 02:43:05 That's good discipline. Smell it. Close your eyes. Swallow even. A fake swallow. Oh, I just had a bite. So good. What is it, Tony Perkins? The guy who'd eat the cheese pizza and then he'd spit it out?

Starting point is 02:43:22 Or was that Heavyweights? Dodgeball. Dodgeball. Dodgeball. Yeah, fuck Chuck Norris. cheese pizza that he spit it out or was that heavyweights or yeah dodgeball dodgeball dodgeball yeah fuck chuck norris uh what a moment there for ben stiller he had a hell of a run yeah he's back hell of a run hey sorry about your knicks stiller anyways d-butt's got a question for you football i got a ball question yeah obviously you came in former quarterback in college had to learn how to play that wide receiver uh position what's like that transition for young guys, especially the guys coming in now, expect to be one straight out of the gate, Marvin Harrison, Malik Neighbors,

Starting point is 02:43:49 even probably Polk or Baker up there in New England. What's that transition like coming into the league? Well, the transition these last four or five years has been at a level that we've never really seen. And I think it's because of the information that these kids have these days like it used to be folklore on how you used to train for an nfl season through the stories of how jerry rice used to run 30 miles uphill both ways and do this and do that now you could just hop on someone's instagram and check out what they're

Starting point is 02:44:24 doing at this time right now, like your favorite receiver. So the information has helped these guys transition. When I was transitioning, I had to go against real athletic jokers like you in rookie camp, and it was tough because I had no clue what I was doing. I couldn't even get in a receiver stance, and you're over here giving me an offhand jam to my goddamn throat.

Starting point is 02:44:48 You and Patrick Chung. Wow. Almost fought Patrick Chung in that rookie camp. You remember that? PC. Oh yeah. You, both of you guys always on a hundred,

Starting point is 02:44:59 but that was a, that was a great day. That's how you had to, that's when you had to build it. But you came in, I mean, shit, you had Randy Moss on one side. You had Wes Walker

Starting point is 02:45:06 in the slot that you had to learn from. You were obviously part returner early. Joey Galloway, who a lot of people don't remember. He was out there for training. Crazy. It was crazy, man. Joey Galloway. Have you seen him? Still yoked, by the way. He's fucking swinging an axe.

Starting point is 02:45:21 Joey Galloway's swinging an axe in Ohio right now. Heavy. Jack, dude. He was still running like 4'3". He was like 38. What a dog. Now he just golfs every day and chops down fucking trees. Yeah. What a dog.

Starting point is 02:45:33 Anyway, sorry about that. Go ahead. But this transition, like I was saying, it's gone a lot better from when I got into the league. Just because of all the information we have these days. because of all the information we have these days uh but as a younger football player trying to get on the train right away i would always tell guys this because this is what i heard from you know the the fred taylors of the world the the kevin falks of the world they said you know there's going to be mistakes made and and you're going to make a mistake you just can't make the same mistake twice because coaches are looking at that too and that's gonna make a mistake you just can't make the same mistake

Starting point is 02:46:05 twice because coaches are looking at that too and that's that's a form of evaluating a player can he we expect him to make a mistake does he learn from the mistake uh can he not make that same mistake again and a lot of it is the mental aspect of the game for a lot of these younger football players being able to take things from the classroom to the drills they build in for what we're installing that day to the six, seven on seven or the, the competitive period, the one-on-one or the seven on sevens or the pass block drills to the team

Starting point is 02:46:37 drill. Like, can you take things and, and be able to process it at a level that they're going to be able to trust you when it comes to a game week. Because a lot of these teams are game plan teams. We all have a base of plays if you're on the offensive side that you always pick and choose from.

Starting point is 02:46:59 But you're also, if you're in a system that evolves their offense throughout the season, you got to be able to take things from the classroom and be able to install it and not have to worry about it and go from there. So I would say just for these younger football players, that transition period of trying to jump on the train of the NFL, you're going to make mistakes. You just can't make them twice and be in that playbook. Because the faster you learn your playbook, the faster you know what the defense is doing,

Starting point is 02:47:36 that's when you get to use your athletic ability. That's when the game slows down and you get to use the speed or your quickness or your superpower. Whatever your superpower is, you can't use it until you know what you got to do. And you know what they're doing. So, like, that's the main thing for these younger football players when they're trying to come in and be an impact player or contribute at any kind of level.

Starting point is 02:47:58 As the great Coach Sirianni said, less thinking, more athlete takeover. Bingo. That's what he said in his opening press conferences. That was the goal, to get the Philadelphia Eagles all to a point where they're doing less thinking, more athlete takeover-y. And I think that's what you're talking about learning your playbook so you don't have to think. The only way that could happen, the only way that could happen, though,

Starting point is 02:48:18 is if you rep it right. Because if you rep it right, practice execution becomes game reality. So it's already in your subconscious once you see it in the situation that you practice and practice, then it becomes like Scotty O'Brien used to say, like deja vu. Practice execution becomes game reality. Throw that from Bill. Ask him about that.

Starting point is 02:48:42 Yeah, fuck yeah. We all steal shit from our coaches. You know what I mean? The ball is the program i mean we are we are we're talking about it all uh for practice execution is game reality about also ask him like coach how would you address turnovers to the team like bill would sit there he goes look if you have the football in your hand, you have everyone in the Foxborough region. That's six states. Five and a half. You have everyone in this building.

Starting point is 02:49:12 You have everyone in this building's families, fate, in your hands. That's what he would say. That's pretty serious. Balls to program is a little bit more than that. Love it. Balls a little bit more than program. Because the program means a little bit more than that. Love it. Balls a little bit more than the program. Because the program means a lot of things to a lot of people.

Starting point is 02:49:31 For this question, it's my last one. And I hate to even bring it up because when it gets brought up, there's always a debate and it brings out a bunch of people that don't know. I think you're a Hall of Famer. Is that something that you even think about? Or, you know, crosses your mind? I think you were the most... I'm asked every day. I'm asked like everyone always asks me. That's what I'm saying. That's why I hate

Starting point is 02:49:54 fucking asking. Just because it gets brought up. But I would like to be on the record as stating that I think you deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. Not just because of what you were able to do at wide receiver for the New England Patriots. Punt returner, you were a fucking nightmare. You were. You were an absolute nightmare. And then you played fucking defense.

Starting point is 02:50:09 And then you have some of the biggest plays in the history of football and you got rings. And it's like, I don't even understand what the conversation is, but I do assume you get asked a lot, so I apologize for doing that. But has it become something you've become desensitized to one way or the other?

Starting point is 02:50:25 Yeah. That's for other people to decide. That's not what I decide. That's just how the award works or whatever it is. You know what I mean? You look at my regular season,

Starting point is 02:50:42 I probably didn't have the numbers for it. Postseason, whatever, it's different. The games that matter, yeah, it's a little different. The biggest ones. It's a little different. Yeah. But people also don't understand when you guys will see, you open the season up with 30, 40 catches in the first three games,

Starting point is 02:50:59 we got to break tendencies. So then you don't see the rock for three games because we're trying to prepare for the playoffs potentially i don't know yeah that could be you look at the stats maybe we're uh we're trying not to become too one track it's hard to get stats when you're blowing everyone out oh it's hard to get stats when you're running it out in the second half well that whole uh postseason stats not counting thing like vinatieri's points in the playoffs didn't count whenever he's trying to become the all-time leading scorer.

Starting point is 02:51:26 It's like the ones that we see, the ones that are on all the highlights, the biggest ones of all time, yeah, those don't count. Just regular season. It's like, that makes no sense. And then whenever people talk about you, they're like, yeah, he was great in the playoffs and in Super Bowls. Okay. Where was he in August? That's what I

Starting point is 02:51:46 was. And it's like, how is that our conversation? We're having them when other people are up for it. It's like all we're asking about is how they're doing in the playoffs. It's like a never-ending circle. But I think you've deserved it and earned it. And we appreciate you taking a fucking hour here on this glorious Tuesday, brother.

Starting point is 02:52:02 Is it an hour? It's been an hour? Time flies when you're having fun, boys. You look so casual. You look so casual. Maybe the most casual human we've ever had on this program. I just got done with the workout. Now I'm about to go pick up my daughter at school. Or no, not today.

Starting point is 02:52:18 That was just dropped off. It's all right. It's okay. Doing great. Casually. And what is time? Just worked out. What is time?

Starting point is 02:52:23 What is time? Constructs. Amen. Meant by who? What is time? Construct. Meant by who? Who put that in? Who put the construct in? People trying to control us. You see those cleats right there? Yes, sir. I stole that from Tom Brady.

Starting point is 02:52:39 Those are the last cleats you ever wore in New England. Wow. I hope they make a documentary or they have the FBI try to find those. They found that jersey. We still don't know who killed Tupac. He's never going to get those back because he won't come on your show. Bingo.

Starting point is 02:52:55 Look at right there. One half of the hammer. We do appreciate you knowing that. Golden Auction is going to try to get those cleats. Golden Auction is going to try to get those. Or. Golden Auction is going to try to get those. Or Mecham. Or Mecham. They do with cars, but they'll put wheels on those fucking things.

Starting point is 02:53:09 No doubt. Make them roller skates. And they will auction those off. It's not my favorite thing, though. My favorite thing is I stole Matthew Slater's inhaler. He used to always... He was an asthma guy. You said fuck him, Steve Urkel before

Starting point is 02:53:26 practice. Slate would be in there doing a prayer and then he'd go out to practice every day. DB knows what I'm talking about. Slate dog. Absolutely. Another Hall of Famer. Hall of Famer. How many years did he play as the best

Starting point is 02:53:41 gunner in football? 16? 17? I understand corner is the most athletic position, but to be a gunner in football? 12? 16? 17? I understand corner is the most athletic position, but to be a gunner, you've got to be so fast, so quick, so powerful, so strong. Everything he did on special teams, he's the best in the league. He can still play. I think he could run the league too. He could run the league too, right, Tony?

Starting point is 02:54:03 Bring him back. Yeah, no, I think he's working with the Patriots. That's a great addition to have. Have him in the building. His wife didn't want him to play anymore. He can't play anymore because Jules stole his inhaler. The guy can't breathe anymore. He's still running 22.

Starting point is 02:54:26 He was dying every day of asthma because he didn't have his fucking inhaler. They're next to Tom Brady's cleats that I stole. Julian, you're a menace, dude. You're a fucking menace. Were you crushed at the roast? You're killing it every day. Seems like you're enjoying the hell out of life, which is great news. You've earned it all, pal.

Starting point is 02:54:42 We appreciate you. Alright, fellas. Take care. Ladies and gentlemen, Julio. Yeah, Jules! So casual. Yeah. I'll tell you what. I have gotten into a spot, though, after a workout where it's like the whole body feels good. Like maybe a half lean on like a couch. Sure.

Starting point is 02:54:57 Like he is in there. And that seemed to be a good setup for him to do the lean. Yeah. With the way the mic was. So that body was a little sore and he sat down and was like, perfect. Not moving from here. Nailed it. All you psychos still working out like you guys are in the league. AJ does every single morning.

Starting point is 02:55:14 D-Butts is still jacked. JJ Watts still got five fucking doing sprints. Doing sprints, yeah. I appreciate you guys. Hey, way to go, boys. Thank you for doing it for us. Slater is the big dom of New England now, though. He will be that character for Mayo.

Starting point is 02:55:30 Oh, okay. He'll be the one saying that. Yeah, he's his right hand. I'll get smacked in the mouth, not you. Yeah, bingo. Exactly. His pops are the Hall of Famer, too. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 02:55:39 I sat a roundtable discussion with his pops. Oh, really? And Roger Goodell. Holy shit. pops. And Roger Goodell. Holy shit. And many other legends. Gold jackets. And OGs of the game. And I don't know why I was asked to be in there.

Starting point is 02:55:54 There was no way I was talking. Dominate. No, I was just doing the draft pick. So it was happening at the draft. And it wasn't even the Colts that asked me to do the draft pick. The NFL asked me, would you like to do the Colts third round draft pick or whatever i'm like fuck yeah i would

Starting point is 02:56:07 love to do that thanks they had a full day you want to come in early we got a round table discussion with the commissioner and some other uh nfl alumni and everything like that and then you go out we'll get on a bus we'll go over there i'm like sure yeah fucking do it nashville is right down the road we go there i'm in this round table discussion for 45 minutes it was hot it was high tensions testing contagious high tensions slater sl 45 minutes it was hot it was high tensions high tensions Slater Slater's dad was pretty he was one of the he was one of the big time talkers in the back he was overlooking everybody going well and what about a lot of those and what about and then somebody else over here oh yeah last time we did this because I guess this happens

Starting point is 02:56:39 maybe yearly and I think the similar amount similar guys are invited and then there's like doofuses like me that are like sprinkled in and then brought out and then they're going to do it. They were not happy about stuff. All revolved around insurance. Okay. 45 minutes straight.

Starting point is 02:56:52 Funny enough. I did offer something up at the very end. My idea about like, can't one of these companies just sponsor NFL alumni insurance? You guys have more insurance companies doing deals with you than ever. Just make some of these NFL OGs, do fucking commercials,

Starting point is 02:57:07 and then just offer that thing maybe from five years to 15 years. And then just have an insurance company be a part of the entire thing. The NFL is the hero. Okay. Anything else? Put a pin in that one. Everybody just left. Players didn't say anything.

Starting point is 02:57:21 Players didn't say anything. Roger Cattell didn't say anything. We're talking about fucking dry room. And it was over. That was the first time I opened my mouth. First time. They were speechless.

Starting point is 02:57:29 It was such a good idea. They were speechless. I think I saw somebody like tap the table. All right. That's enough for today. Okay. Like when your kid

Starting point is 02:57:38 has a great idea or something like your eight-year-old kid. Okay. That'll work. That'll work. Okay, good idea. Yeah, that's for the fucking NFLPA.

Starting point is 02:57:45 That's what Roger was thinking. All right, let's get the hell out of here. What a day. We're back. That'll work. Okay, good idea. Yeah, it's for the fucking NFLPA. This is what Roger was thinking. All right, let's get the hell out of here. What a day. We're back tomorrow. Hell yeah. I don't think I'll ever go back to one of those. You never know. You never know.

Starting point is 02:57:55 I think I nailed it, though. I did. I thought I fucking had it. I mean, that's a great idea. That is a solution. 44 minutes of them being pissed, and in my head, I'm just like, we just fucking need to do a deal. What are we even talking about?

Starting point is 02:58:03 You're about solutions. John Taffer, you're about solutions. You're not about problems. I don't'm just like, we just fucking need to do a deal. What are we even talking about? You're about solutions. John Tapper, you're about solutions. You're not about problems. I don't want to hear your problem. I want to hear a solution. It wasn't a round table, per se. It was like a little theater-like setup with Goodell sitting at the head of a table, and then Troy Vincent was next to him,

Starting point is 02:58:19 and then a couple other people. And then there were some players down on the bottom row, but then it was like I was like the middle second tier to the right just trying to avoid all, but then Slater was coming over top and then some other guy, and Bo Jack was coming over here, and the guy whose fingers were sideways with two canes was like, and I'm fucking – and I'm like, yeah, I like what's going on here. I'm about done with this.

Starting point is 02:58:41 Okay, sweet. Do we have any answers on insert something else that they're pissed off about? It's like, yeah, do it. I mean, I'm fucking excited to hear this. Obviously, Roger Goodell handled the room absolutely perfectly. And at the very end, I mustered up the courage. Now, little did they know, I was about to go do what I did on the draft stage. You know, I don't think that anybody in that room knew I was going to be doing that.

Starting point is 02:59:01 But, yeah, I thought I had the idea. It got shipped away quickly. Later on, though, I'm sure they're like, maybe we should find a way. What did that dumbass say? What did that fucking idiot say? All right, let's get the hell out of here. Boys, great work today.

Starting point is 02:59:12 Matt Morvik from Mecham Auto Auction. Thanks for starting the show today. Yeah, man, buddy. I can't wait to spend time over there. Only one car, maybe two. Spends on with the wife once. Yeah, we'll see. Or, and see what they got for talk.

Starting point is 02:59:26 Yeah, yeah. We might be going live tomorrow to buy a car for talk because he does not have a car out here in Indiana. Oh, yes. So in the third hour tomorrow, there's a chance we are bidding from here. Oh, yes. What do you want? What are you thinking for? It's not up to him.

Starting point is 02:59:40 I know. What kind of model are you thinking? Like a neon or something? The way I described it was, and I don't know if you've ever heard this, I said hilarious is the way I described it. If you guys have any hilarious cars going in the 2 o'clock hour, we would be very happy. If it's 1 o'clock, whatever.

Starting point is 02:59:56 Just let us know what time a hilarious one is and then we'll be the internet. Which is always a bitter that's looming. Always a bitter that's looming. It always a bit of that's looming it could be us yes that's so many so many cars so many that that would fit talk like there's a 1972 chevrolet c10 cheyenne super pickup right yeah the blue one right there yeah maybe how about the hummer how about the original hummer it appears i mean oh six lexus would be pretty Hummer, it appears. I mean, an 06 Lexus would be pretty electric.

Starting point is 03:00:24 Yeah, talking in a two miles per gallon. Yeah, fucking original. We're thinking the same thing. Maybe that mobster one up top, left there. Oh, 83 Chevy. Yeah, this is what we're talking about. Tomorrow is full of opportunities for talking.

Starting point is 03:00:39 Happy birthday, Talk. You see that 2003 Mercury? On the right, yeah. Let's make sure nobody else sees us. Good call. We appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this You see that 2003 Mercury? On the right, yeah. Let's make sure nobody else sees us. Yeah, good call, good call. All right, we appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. Tomorrow's going to be a great show. Then we'll be off Thursday, Friday.

Starting point is 03:00:54 We aren't happy about it, but we will be watching the PGA Championship while we're all buying cars at the Indiana State Fairgrounds from our friends at Mecham. Shout out to them for being so incredibly kind and hospitable. Great work today, AJ. D-Butt, you crushed it. Boys, way to go. Hammer. Dad. He's in about 15 it. Boys, way to go. Hammer. Dad.

Starting point is 03:01:06 He's in about 15 minutes. I can't wait to see what we're betting on tonight. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Like our friends at Dude Wipes. That's a real deal. A bath for your ass.

Starting point is 03:01:16 It's worth it. Only one per flush, though. Only one per flush. Hey, we're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team.

Starting point is 03:01:23 Goodbye.

The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1129 - Fast Talking Tuesday With Mecum Auctioneer Matt Moravec, Brian Windhorst, PK Subban, Paul Skenes, Julian Edelman, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

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