The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1131 - Kendrick Perkins, Mike Greenberg, PK Subban, PGA Championship Recap With Chris "Soly" Solomon, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 20, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys overreact to everything that happened over an incredible sports weekend including the Pacers eliminating the Knicks in Madison Square Garden to move on to the Eastern Conference Finals, the Timberwolves erasing a 20 point deficit in the 3rd quarter to eliminate the Nuggets, all the NHL action, and an exhilarating PGA Championship, along with everything else happening around the NFL as 21 teams reported for OTA’s today. Joining the progrum to chat about both playoff games from yesterday, and preview the Conference Finals is NBA Champion, ESPN NBA analyst, and new member of the Texas High School Athletic Hall of Fame, Kendrick Perkins (15:02-39:12). Later, member of 2 broadcasting Hall of Fames, and host of Get Up! and Greeny, Mike Greenberg joins the show to chat about Knicks/Pacers and his expectations for the Jets this year (41:41-56:27). Later, 3x All-Star, 13 year NHL veteran, and current ESPN NHL analyst, PK Subban joins the show to chat about tonight’s Game 7 between Edmonton and Vancouver, preview the Eastern Conference Finals, and chat about what the Bruins and Penguins need to do in the offseason (1:08:54-1:33:23). Later, Chris “Soly” Solomon of No Laying Up joins the show to recap the PGA Championship, the Scottie Scheffler fiasco, Bryson Dechambeau’s career arc, Jon Rahm after going to LIV, Valhalla as a whole, and Xander Schauffele’s incredible performance (1:56:21-2:22:36). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode the thunderdome on this overreaction monday may 20th 2024 this sports program starts now sports are the greatest thing on earth there is no question about it especially if you spent the last four days like we did which we were off four day weekend how you doing we're lazy i changed. It has. We apologize, but we're watching the PGA Championship, which was remarkable. Storylines from literally the beginning to the end. A guy ended up in jail. Who was the guy? Number one golfer on earth, Scotty Scheffler, bent over the hood of a cop car, then sent to jail, put in an orange jumpsuit. I am somebody who has spent a morning, late night, early morning in jail for a public intoxication, was not put in the orange jumpsuit, but was given prisoners who I believe they said

were spending the rest of their lives in jail's clothes because my clothes are wet from an alleged incident with a canal. Nonetheless, didn't have the orange jumpsuit on. The fact that they had Scotty Scheffler in the orange fatigues, in the mugshot, as he was trying to get to Valhalla, the home of the PGA Championship this weekend, was obviously something that all of us thought was fake AI, maybe photoshopped. Are we tripping balls right now?

What the hell is going on? Well, obviously there was a very serious accident, miscommunication, it was dark, it was rainy. Sometimes in those situations, there could be some people who wield power and they let everybody know that they do and then you know there are certain situations that are a little bit different like uh the guy is the number one golfer in the world this is the biggest golf tournament happening in the world right now like there's a miscommunication situation hopefully that'll get all figured out but it was certainly an eye-opening experience to launch the pga championship week that we watched what What Scottie Scheffler did

that day, obviously five under was remarkable, but the story was Zandershoff. This guy was always crumbling, always falling apart. Never won a major before. This guy can't do it. This guy stinks. Then on Sunday, with literally everybody on earth coming after him that we've

ever heard of. DeChambeau, Victor Hovland, the names go on and on. He had a six-foot putt to win it. Now, par sends to extra holes, three of them, then a hole-to-hole thing. Instead, he birdies 18 to win the PGA Championship, and it took the tractor another round. I believe he will potentially be, now, the PGA is certainly hit or miss with a lot of these things because of how the PGA

golfers' schedules are. I think he'll be joining us tomorrow. Congrats, Xander. Congrats, Xander. Can't wait to chat with him. That was awesome this weekend. And obviously, the NHL had some big things happen over the last four days. Most specifically, the Florida Panthers knocked out the

Boston Bruins. Nine-year NFL victory. There you stay, brother. Congratulations. Hey, thank you, thank you. Back in the Eastern Conference Finals. Hey, good to be me and Con, man. Locker room, saw each other this morning. Big hug.

Hey, good to be friends again. He's back. Obviously, his Celtics still at it, but it's good to be back where we belong. Yeah, you guys put your swords aside. Congrats to the Florida Panthers making it to the Eastern Conference Finals and beating the Boston Bruins, even though that goalie that just got scored on right there, Swayman, stood on his head throughout the entirety of the series. The Florida Panthers

were just too damn much for the Boston Bruins as they head to the Eastern Conference Finals against the khaki wearing New York Rangers. Let's go to the Western Conference, shall we? How about out of the great state of Texas the Dallas Stars are awaiting who? Well, the winner of Game 7 tonight, Vancouver, takes on the Edmonton Oilers.

Oilers favored by one and a half. Obviously, that's Connor McJesus' squad. He hasn't been scoring as much, but they have been buzzing. I cannot wait to see who makes it to the Western Conference Finals to take on Texas. Hockey is the NHL. Only has four teams left. What else happened over the last four days? Oh, the NBA has figured

out its final four. Let's go to the West. The reigning, defending, undisputed champions. The Denver Nuggets who have a three time NBA MVP who doesn't speak a lot of English to a lot of people, but when he does, he is hilarious and he is magnificent at basketball.

Well, they're no longer in it. Minnesota Timberwolves are now representing in the Western Conference Finals. Ant-Man, Cat, that entire squad. Rudy Gobert hitting turnaround threes. They completed the greatest comeback in the documented history for at least the last quarter of a century in game seven NBA history when they were down 20 in the third quarter and they come all the way back obviously that is the man that is everybody's projecting to be the next face of the NBA because he's electrifying talks of shit he's

not like just a uh nerd yeah but he's a dog he's an absolute dog team's fantastic they're in the middle of an ownership situation because of how good he is. That is actually sold the team. That didn't sell the team. You missed it. We still have it. I own it. You don't own it.

Well, why did you want to sell the team? Well, because we sucked for so long. Now we got this guy. This is still my team. That's currently happening. A-Rod was supposed to have the team. Had a sweet handshake with Ant-Man. There is going to be an arbitration, I believe find out if Hayrod's going to be the actual

owner of that team or not. But the Minnesota Timberwolves, guess who they're taking on? From the great state of Texas, the Dallas Mavericks! That's right. In a 20-hour period, Dallas, the Stars, lodged into the Western Conference Finals, and then

the Mavs would win and send themselves to the Western Conference Finals. Congrats to the Mavs would win and send themselves to the Western Conference Finals. Congrats to the state of Texas and the city of Dallas. I wonder if the Cowboys could fall suit. No way. How many days until NFL football? 108 days until NFL football. Oh, yeah, big stuff happened in the NFL over the last four days

before we finished the Eastern Conference of the NBA, which everybody is eagerly awaiting i would assume um there travis kelsey was a late como italy which would tell you yeah he had kelsey jam yeah yeah and they had a little wing two chains uh two kansas chiefs players got arrested for marijuana didn't know that still happened in 2024 they need to tighten it up over there 24 they tighten it up can't say cheese pr's like wait all right i'm done hey pr what do we got today what do we got today why can't we be a normal team well you're at the top obviously that's gonna happen oh yeah and the new york giants debuted another uniform it's the worst of all time whoa yeah congrats giants football holy hell yeah this looks like an asshole yeah this one right here looks bad, but it is a throwback.

You know, this is a super throwback. This is much like the Bumblebee ones from the Pittsburgh Steelers, which is heralded as an incredible uniform because of how absurdly old it does look. It's also the one for the Green Bay Packers. Yep, the Acme Packers ones. Brown helmets. Which look so old. This is their take on it.

Obviously, everybody's going to mock it because it's 2024. But to be fair, it's comps. You know what you're supposed to do with everything? Much better than these. These are trash. These are crap. But I'm sure they'll look good on field. Way to go, Giants.

How many days still in football? 108 days. Well, before that happens, let me tell you a story about a beautiful town in Indiana. Now the Boston Celtics have been waiting for the Eastern Conference Finals to begin. Who will we be playing? Will they be playing the team from New York City, biggest city in the United States of America? That's right, huge. The New York Knickerbockers. Or will they be playing some bum-ass smallcity team, the Indiana Pacers? Not a chance. If you were to watch TV, anybody that had a microphone in front of them, maybe some makeup on and a large platform, boy,

you could see them actually callousing their knees, praying to God that the New York Knicks would take on the Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference Finals. That'd be a dream. Holy shit. Boston, New York in the Eastern Conference Finals. There was a chance it was going to be Boston, New York in the Eastern Conference Finals. There was a chance it was going to be Boston, New York in the NHL

Eastern Conference Finals. You could see TV executives and on-air personalities who are from those areas bopping to themselves about the possibility of the playoffs being a wet dream come true. Then Game 7 happens in Madison Square

Garden. Little old Indiana Pacers travel into the Mecca to take on the New York Knicks in front of a slew of celebrities who are from the great city in your city New York what I say so it's big's big It never sleeps They're so smart Finance, all the shit New York's so important Oh my god

Concrete jungle, never quiet You live in a box, but you pay a lot for it So it's worth a lot New York, it's where dreams come true And they did come true. Tyrese Halliburton, T.J. McConnell, Miles Turner, Spicy P, come in and dance on the graves of all the stupid Knicks fans with their little pouty face. We were injured.

We were hurt. We had all our players. You were playing against our bench. Wah, wah, wah, wah. You were playing against our bench. Wah! Wah! Wah! Wah! On-air personalities.

TV before the game. This is what the Knicks are going to have to do to win this game. Halftime. Mike Wilbon. There's no way the Pacers are going to be able to keep shooting the way that they did. Greatest shooting performance in the history of Game 7s in the NBA playoffs. Why? Because that human, who actually has

Reggie Miller's arms right here, those aren't his arms. You can see how those could be his arms. Incredible editing here by our guy Derek. But that is Tyrese. We are in the middle of the Tyrese Halliburton era. A lot of people talking about how many points he's had in previous games. Well, the games that were up a lot, he's resting. They haven't rested. Tibbs should have thought about doing that. Instead, all your players are injured. And then Spicy P comes in. He's got championship pedigree. He comes out roaring hot.

Miles Turner, he seems to not miss from three. He's become Steph Curry, and he's a seven-footer. And then Tyrese Halliburton. If your name's John Chetrit, Chetrit. Hey, Bruce, what's this dude's name? John Chitrit? Chitrit? Chetrit, I believe., what's this dude's name? John Chitrit? Chitrit? Chetrit, I believe.

Congrats, you're in a healthy year. Wow! Great season. I wish we got to take you guys on with a healthy roster. Wow! Hopefully next year we do. I'm proud of Jalen Brunson for fighting through it all. Fighting through it all.

He didn't break his hand until late in the third quarter. You guys are already down 20. Here's your best player, DiVincenzo. He's going to be your second best player. I know Julius is hurt. Julius, second best player. OG, third best player. He played. I saw him out there. That's not the Pacers' fault.

That's not the Pacers' fault. But I do appreciate the fact that the New York Knicks fans, the whole time. After they lose. And then you see a lot of TV personalities before the game. What do they need to do? Halftime. After the game, bummed out. There was a time, actually, when they lose. Never saw. And then you see a lot of TV personalities before the game, whether they need to do halftime, after the game, bummed out. There was a time actually when they announced that Jalen Brunson's hand was broke where it seemed like Doris Burke didn't even talk.

Devastation. Shell shot. Hit the booth. Devastation hit the TV. Could you imagine if this Knicks team who was hurt, so hurt had to play this Boston Celtics team? Everybody's wishing it was New York versus Boston. You want that New York Knicks team that's so in.

Wah! Wah! So injured to take on this Boston Celtics team? I don't think so. That's not good for anybody. What is good for everybody is that this Pacers team is building the right stuff. You know, Coach Carlisle even said in the locker room afterwards, boys, you came in here, you beat this team's sorry ass in the Mecca, in Madison Square Garden, in front of all their stupid little celebrity fans.

John Chetrit's dumbass who's only sitting there because his dad's successful, running his mouth at Tyrese Halliburton, waking him up. Dumb, dumb. That seems like a bad idea, especially in a game seven. This is good for basketball. Great. This is good for the NBA, who is now going to have, I believe, six straight seasons with a different winner or something like that.

That's good for the fans. That's good for sports media. And although I do believe that the Knicks had an incredible season. Great way to go. Good run. Sweet run. I watched it every game. I watched it.

That's what I do. I watch all the games of all the sports all the time. I loved watching the New York Knicks play ball. I actually am trying to get DiVincenzo to the Indiana Pacers. Sure. He would fit in great. We need more ties out here. He would fit in fantastic with our team.

Jalen Brunson, I know his dad is assistant coach now, and his agent is actually the president of the Knicks. So it is like a Brunson operation. It's going to be tough, I think, to get him out of there. We would like a few of their guys out here on the Pacers who are about to be the team who's going to run through the Eastern Conference. Now, sportsbooks, ESPN, but more specifically are saying that the Boston Celtics are minus 1,000 favorites. Those are big. Watch your favorites. You'll beat two. Those are big. Watch your mouth. You'll beat two.

Damn. This is right where. The Celtics are minus 10 game one. Okay, 10. We don't need it. Let's one-out on the hammer. Cowboys, 10 digs. I'm not saying it's going to happen.

But this is what Coach Carlisle. 20%? This is what the Pacers need and want. But you are very confident in what the Celtics are about to do. Oh, my God. And now, Granny, you would have been the same exact confidence, I assume, against this Knicks team, especially with how hurt they are. I would assume you feel that as well.

Yeah, no matter what. I mean, basically since the start of the playoffs, it's been like, yeah, we'll see who we're playing in the Eastern Conference Finals. And now that we're here, it's like, oh, okay. So we'll see who we're playing in the Finals. I couldn't be more confident. I don't think that there's even a shred of doubt in my entire body that this thing doesn't go past Game 6.

But again, I'm glad we're doing this today because there's some dark days coming for the Pacers in these next six games, probably five games. But again, I'm happy that it's the Pacers because if it was the Knicks, it would be even more so Celtics haven't played anybody, blah, blah, blah. They're still going to say that, but again, it's the Pacers because if it was the Knicks, it would be even more so. Celtics haven't played anybody. Blah, blah, blah. They're still going to say that, but again, at least the Pacers are completely healthy. Tyrese Halliburton said in a press conference after the game, while he was wearing a Reggie Miller

sweet. Sweet. Need one. Mouse Turner had sunglasses on. Siakam sitting there next to him. So cool. Now, DJ McConnell, I think, deserved a seat. Maybe on the other side. He's the sit at the table.

He is a dog. He's a menace. He's a pest. He's the gas. He is the juice. That's right. And you see it any time he is on there. But Tyrese said, yeah, we felt from the beginning of the year we're a playoff team.

Now, none of you heard that because you haven't covered us at all. They're even saying, like, hey, media, we're done with the shits. And then they released ESPN's projections of the entire thing. Obviously, everybody had the Knicks. And Miles Turner said, oh, yeah, I actually saw a photo. Everybody in this room pretty much is asking us questions right now. We're either hoping, wishing, or thinking that the Knicks would win this series. But instead, they don't.

The Pacers are in the Eastern Conference Finals. Welcome to the Tyrese Halliburton era. Anthony Edwards is going to be a face of the league. I agree. He could be one of them. He could be one of them. There's a guy here in Indiana who talks his shit, plays hilarious, has two different voices, and is beloved by his teammates.

Joining us now is a man who gave props to the Indiana Pacers and how proud they should be last night on Twitter. And I appreciate that out of him. I didn't hear everything else he said. I'll be excited to hear it now. Ladies and gentlemen, Big Perk. How we doing, man? I just hear a lot of, I see a lot of victory laps right now.

That's what I see. I see from you and Connor. And look, shout out to the Indians on the paces, right? I mean, taking advantage of the situation. It's just professional sports. Everybody, there's we don't like it. I don't like it at all. I'm

actually going to proclaim on this particular day just like I did last year. This upcoming NFL season, no injuries are going to happen. None. No injuries are going to happen. None. No injuries are going to happen. This happens, doesn't it? I mean, it stinks. It stinks.

Is the coaching style the reason for the injuries, or do you think it's just misfortune? What do you think it is for the Knicks in this particular case? No, no, no. I was about to give the Pacers their flowers, right? I love that. So when I think about the Pacers, I think about Rick Carlisle. He's done an exceptional job, right, when it comes down to putting his team in position to be successful offensively.

You talk about one of the best offensive teams in the league. But also doing something old school, right, calling his team out in the public and his team responding. You don't get that from a lot of young players, right, to respond when their coaches call them out about their lack of physicality, you know, question whether or not they have heart. And they responded in great fashion. They won their series, okay? They won their series against the Knicks. Kudos to them.

Okay, that's, okay, kudos. Okay, I like a good kudos every once in a while. How about having the highest, how about the highest shooting percentage in the history of Game 7, let alone in Madison Square Garden, you know, like that is. Oh, now it's the Mecca, you know, it's bigger. You got all the celebrities. Fat Joe's dapping up everybody on a great season.

As they're heading down to the bench, as they're getting subbed out, you know. Alright, gotta dap up. Joey Crack here and then I can go down to the rest of the way. Who's that dude that's got the beard and the long hair? Jason Bateman. Jason Bateman's out there. Ben Stiller's out there. Obviously, Spike Lee's there.

You were there, I saw, next to Tracy Morgan. I mean, the stars were all out. And for them to go in there and have the greatest shooting performance in the history of the NBA playoffs in that particular setting, I think that says a lot about the moxie of the Pacers as well. And even though the Celtics are minus 1,000 to win the series, do you think the Pacers have any chance matching up with the Celtics team? I do. I do.

And look, it starts off with the depth, right? I think you look at TJ McConnell, He's a damn dog, okay? And we're watching Aaron Neesmith, right? He's returning back to Boston, a team that drafted him, a team that gave up on him. He's going to have a chip on his show, okay? Then I'm looking at Pascal Siakam, which I feel like didn't get talked about enough when he was traded to the Pacers because everybody, when they looked at that Raptor team, everybody wanted OG Ananobi. And I kept saying, why isn't nobody pushing to get Pascal?

All of a sudden, Indiana gets him, and we see what he's been for them. He's arguably been the best player for them consistently throughout these playoffs, right? he's had some big moments and i thought he started it off last night look i have this series going seven games okay i give the nod to the celtics but this indiana pacer team have have shown me something these first two rounds that they're not going anywhere and whether the world believes in them or not, they believe in themselves. That's the most important thing. And they're showing it. They're showing it.

They're not backing down from anyone. You want to play physical, we can do that. We're going to put up points because we arguably have the best pure point guard in the league, Tyrese Halliburton, who wants to get everyone involved. Again, the Celtics, without Kristoffer Zingas, they're going to have to be on their best shit. Stephen A. Smith said that he was courtside before this game started, and there was a lot of shit talk, obviously, being directed at Tyrese, and Tyrese was responding to almost all of it, saying, wait until you see what happens today,

and then he goes out and does it. And there was one particular guy, I believe he was calling out more than others, we've learned his name is John with no H. John with no H. This guy is who we potentially, our sources, have told us is the ones that kind of woke him up. But I think you talked about it with Rick Carlisle kind of being old school. And I got to hang out with him a little bit at the Fever game because we were sitting next to each other. Watching the New York Liberty be the greatest assembled basketball team I've ever seen

wow I have ever it is it is I'm not even getting into it right now perk but I will at some point can you I'm not allowed to talk about it because I don't know enough about it I'm a very new fan it's very obvious I'm very evident about it so I'm not going to talk with you know as much about it as I should as we're watching B-Stew, just fucking cook. I mean, she was phenomenal to watch. On both ends of the court, she swatted Aaliyah Boston's stuff, I think, mean.

It was right in front of my face. And then she catches this no-look pass from Sabrina. Yeah, this is the one right here. Right in front of my face. No-look pass. Then she Yeah, this is the one right here. Right in front of my face. No-look pass. Ah! Ah!

Then she makes the end one, obviously. And then she'll hit a step-back three on the next time down. Then she'll swat. And then there's Jones, who's next to her, who might be 6'14". Just swatting everything. But as this is happening, as all this is taking place in front of us, and Caitlin Clark, we're watching her kind of find her way with her new team here with the fever and you know coach carlisle's two down it's my wife and coach carlisle sitting there and i want to be the weirdo ask him a bunch of questions but kind of

this is the day before this entire thing so i pointed out beastu and i i was like uh hey she's she's the one hot like she is and he goes oh yeah yeah you're talking about like one of the greatest basketball players uh of all time here yeah. You're talking about like one of the greatest basketball players of all time here. Yeah, yeah, we're talking about. And then we started chit-chatting and bantering. Then at halftime, I went inside, had a water with Coach Carl. Nice. Yeah, and you talk about like you said that old school mentality.

It does feel like they have a college, like a brotherhood type thing. And when you talk about bringing in Pascal, and Miles Turner was supposed to be the star of this team, drafted out of Texas. He was the guy that was being promoted. Tyrese is now the star of this team. And you got T.J. McConnell from the Sixers. It's like this group all knows, too, like who's who, what the roles are,

what we're here for, who's the leaders. It's a beautiful thing. It is really a beautiful thing to kind of watch here as somebody who's recently got back into Pacer basketball. Oh, absolutely. And you know the beautiful thing about this is right we're watching rick carlisle an old school coach and he had to adjust to the new generation right like think about this he caught a lot of heat when he when he was let go from the dallas mavericks right a team that you know he delivered a championship

to that organization and a lot of his former players, he delivered a championship to that organization. And a lot of his former players didn't have a lot of nice things to say about him. The hardest thing in the world to do with a coach that has had so much success, right, and it was, you know, what he's done in the league is to adjust. And I think he adjusts and he has the attention of that locker room. And we watching all the great coaches from Greg Popovich, right? Who's going to be, what, 76 this year, I believe, or 75,

something around there. He's adjusting, right? You got to have that balance of old school with new school. And Rick Carlisle has done a hell of a job with that. Coach Carlisle, 22 years as a head coach in the NBA. Damn. Been around a long time, obviously.

Massive feet. This guy. Is that right? I had to go piss. I had to get past him. My wife and I had to walk. We're talking up and over. Okay.

Each foot. Wow. Yeah. Because we wanted to show some real respect there. Let's stick in the NBA playoffs, shall we? Go ahead, Con Man. Yeah, Perk. Obviously, you know, I completely disagree with what you're saying

about the Pacers-Celtics, but forget about all that. Let's go to the West. Watching this Timberwolves team was truly magnificent. Obviously they paid Jaden McDaniels in the offseason, and I said that was terrible, and I am eating my words as I watch this team play because he is unbelievable

on both ends of the court. Can anybody hang with them on the defensive side like is there any way to kind of decipher what they do obviously the nuggets won three games so yes there's a way but in a seven game series how hard is it to continue to play against a team that d's up the way the timberwolves do it's really hard and connor you you don't remember a certain individual was down there in Indiana sitting in the Thunderdome in that spot over there? I think it's right to the right of Pat.

Yeah, that seat right there. And I told you guys. Glory day. Glory day. Day. Day. Glory day. Day. Day. Glory day.

It was great. Yeah. Right here. Yeah, I remember you. It was a good time. But I told you guys about the Minnesota Timberwolves. Look, the one thing that I love about this team, no matter how bad they may look at times offensively, they're going to stick to who they are, right?

And that's some defensive dogs. And when I watched them last night, we already know what the altitude and devil could do to a team, especially when you're going against the defending champs and you're down 20. Anthony Elwood shot six for 24 last night. But you know what they did? They clamped down.

And as the game continued as the game went on they got stronger you don't see that in a lot of teams you don't see that in teams at all especially playing in that altitude against the defending champs they held them to 37 points in the second half and when you think about what jay mcdaniels and anthony elvis are doing on the perimeter. I know Jamal Murray, he went off in the first half. I believe he had, what, 24 in the first half? Yep.

All of a sudden, he was in a straight jacket in the second half. Jaden McDaniels, he was in foul trouble in the first half. All of a sudden, they just kept sticking true to who they were. I was calling for Rudy Gobert to get out of the, you know, for the coach to sit him. The coach trusted the man. He came through. Knocked down some big free throws, a turnaround, Nas Reed. Like, this team is dangerous

and, Connor, you gonna hate me for this, but I actually got the Minnesota Timberwolves picked to win in and all. Okay. I figured. I like that. I mean, Connor's just thinking that you're gonna hate the Celtics even though you're a Celtics legend up there. Connor's got a trenches mentality, though.

Everybody's against him at all times. To your point about this Timberwolves team, and you've been talking about this literally since the day you were here. That is a very real thing. Phoenix is a Hembo stat. This is Hembo. We all know Hembo. Phoenix and Denver combined to average 99.6 points per game versus minnesota in

the playoffs they took on a four-time scoring champ kevin durand the boys and then they took on a three-time mvp joker in them i mean they're reigning champs it's like they do lock down on the one end and you talked about how anthony edwards was 6 of 25 damn he actually as he was reading his stats at the press conference and mocking himself, it's like effort on the other end. You know, like there's some days where maybe you don't have the talent or the skill, but you can give effort. Like, all right, I'm going to max effort here.

On the defensive side, like, hey, we can fly around a little bit more. It's like he can do that. You know, if you're not feeling as much, not have as much effect on the game. On the defensive side, all right, let's just lock this shit down. Like, let's just go ahead and do that. Which is that mentality, which is why we all want to see this guy have success i think because we're not sure how many of those guys are left perk right but but but pat him listen to this okay shut up he's the he he's the best young leader in the game of basketball look jimmy butler had on the timberwolves jersey at one point of his career

he couldn't pull this out of carl anthony towns what we saw out of carl anthony towns last night we saw carl anthony towns not only take advantage of his mismatches offensively and i thought he kept them afloat in the first half and even in that third quarter when they was making the comeback to take the lead but defensively when rudy went out the 101 defense that carl anthony towns played on yokich really not just last night but all series long that's what happens when you have a young leader like anthony ellis he put the key in his back you heard him last night he said you know carl anthony towns like man i've been here for nine years anthony elwes was like man fuck them nine years how long you been with me oh i like that how long you been with me and it showed man so when you just when that type of

leadership i always say he like when i look at anthony elwes i'm like yes he's 22 years old but like my grandmother used to say he has an old soul baby he has an old soul and living in this moment and making a run to nba championship this is nothing to anthony elwes when you look at his upbringing and what he had to go through i mean if you go and look at what he had to go through as a child this is all fun and games for him well i would like to say i haven't looked into that nearly enough seemingly congrats and makes it even more fulfilling to watch. Hey, here we go. Another American Dream story coming together.

Could you imagine if he continues to play the way he is, 22 years old? Are we looking at another shoe line, merch line? He's an actor. The commercials are going to be absurd. I mean, there's a chance here. Oh, God. I hope he doesn't go through the SGA Chet Holmgren commercial. No, he won't. You think he's going to say yes to that? I hope not. No. I don't know's a chance here. Oh, God. I hope he doesn't go through the SGA Chet Holmgren commercial.

No, he won't. You think he's going to say yes to that? I hope not. No. I don't know. He won't. You know. I hope. You do know.

You know he would say. I hope. Send new video. That's what he would say. I would hope that's what he would say. He said, I ain't doing that. That's what he would say. You can't say anything good about him yet because you think Celtics are going to play with the

finals. I mean, I've been saying how sweet it is to watch him because he is a dog and there isn't anybody in the NBA like him. But, yes, there's a chance that I am a little worried. Oh, a little fear coming through. Bruins just lost to the Panthers. Yeah, that's fine. I mean, hey, look, you don't want to do this right now with what the Pacers are staring down. Okay?

So, I get it. The Bruins and the Panthers. You don't want to do this. No, what I'm saying is it down. Okay? So I get it. The Bruins and the Panthers. You don't want to do this. No, but I'm saying it seems like you got a little doubt breaking in. Oh, no. Not with the Celtics. No. Not at all. I think the best case scenario for the Celtics was the Nuggets losing. No doubt about it. Okay. Alright. Well, let's talk about the West

a little bit. Go ahead, D-Bush. Before I even get into it, congrats, Big Perk, entering the Texas High School Hall of Fame. I appreciate it. I into it. Congrats, Big Perk, entering the Texas High School Hall of Fame. I appreciate it. I appreciate it. But this matchup, what's coming? Hold on.

You're giving a speech? When's this happening? Can we learn a little bit more about this? What is going on with the Texas High School Hall of Fame? Great piece of information. I got inducted into the Hall of Fame, Pat, you know, on Saturday. You know what I mean? Like I tell everybody, you know, on Saturday. You know what I mean? And like I tell everybody,

you know what I'm saying? You don't go straight from high school to the University of Cash without putting your Wilt Chamberlain type notes. You know what I mean? I mean,

that's what I do. University of Cash. Hey, Cash U. I love that. Cash U used to be awesome. And these are documented. Yeah. Which is

a beautiful thing. Go ahead, D-Buck. On video. But this Western Conference final matchup, obviously you just picked the Timberwolves to win it all. But you speak about leadership. Kyrie, I think, has kind of turned that knob way up as far as leadership and how he's been working with Luka.

Been a lot of questions there, but they turned it up, took care of the thunder. How do you see the matchup of these both teams, big twos, you know, Ant and Cat, and then Luka and Kyrie? How do you see each team trying to deal with those two? It's going to be fun. It's going to be must-see TV. Get your popcorn out. Get ready to have your toes doing this here

because that's what it's going to be. It's going to be must-see TV. But here's the thing, right? The Dallas Mavericks, they look great. Kyrie Irving, his championship leadership, you can see him, you know, putting that confidence in guys like Derek Lively and Daniel Gafford and P.J. Washington. Luka is going to have his hands full, right?

Luka is going to have to be like the Luka that we want to see. Like he's been Luka of the regular season. He's going to have to be playoff Luka that we want to see. Like he's been Luka of the regular season. He's going to have to be playoff Luka, meaning he's going to have to average 40, in my opinion, in this series in order for them to win this series. That's why I don't have them picked to win it. Here's the thing. When playing against the Minnesota Timberwolves,

they're going to kill you with that double big, those double bigs that they have in Rudy and Carl Anthony Towns. You have to find a way to match that. You can't play Daniel Gafford and Derek Lively at the same time. The blow that happened to the

Mavs was losing Cleaver. When they lost him, I thought that was a huge blow for them to make a championship run. And so when I think about the bigs and what Rudy is going to be able to do to affect this game, because now he don't have to worry about Jokic. Now he can actually be the defensive player of the year, meaning he can sit in the paint. Because you have Derek Lively and Daniel Gafford who can't really stretch the floor.

Now all of a sudden it causes more problems for you. And I understand, right? Luka and Kyrie Irving, they're special when it comes to being on the perimeter. But we were saying the same thing about Kevin Durant and Devin Book, and we saw what happened to them. Yep, yep, average less than 100. Yep, yep, yep. We just heard the himbo stat about that entire thing.

Defense, huh? Isn't it crazy? It's like NFL convos. NFL convos whenever playoffs start, then everybody starts realizing, like, okay, which team has the championship defense here? You know, because everybody talks about the offense, the offense, the offense. And then also, who can run the ball? Who can run the ball and who can play some great defense?

That isn't talked about until, like, December, you know? It feels like it's happening right now in the NBA as well. Is that every year? Is this every year this is talked about until like December. You know, it feels like it's happening right now in the NBA as well. Is that every year? Is this every year this is talked about? Yeah, I mean, it should be because there's no team that has won the NBA championship without having elite defense, right? It goes unnoticed. Even when Golden State was making their runs, you know, and winning championships,

they were top five defensively. When you look at the Nuggets last year, they were top five team defensively. Like, Jokic stepped up to the plate. He was better in the postseason for his pick-or-roll defense. Like, you gotta defend. If you don't defend, if you don't

rebound, you're not gonna win a championship. There's no other way around it. Yeah, that's why Miles Turner, TJ McConnell. You're going to need those guys. You didn't mention his name, Perk.

Actually, Tom, good point. What were you saying? Yeah, Perk, when you were talking about the Pacers, you rattled off everybody's name. You didn't mention TJ McConnell. Oh, is there any reason for that? You still racist, Perk? No, I did. I mentioned T.J. McConnell. I said

he's a damn dog. Yeah, I did mention him. I mentioned him. Look, I heard. Me too. I don't even know if he was an unsung hero in this thing. I don't even want to call him that.

I think that's disrespecting what he did in this series. He's a bad motherfucker. He's going to like hearing that too because I think that would be a massive compliment, I think, with the way

he goes about operating. I just learned this from the internet this weekend, and I think, they might be fake ex-accounts. I think his sister played at Duquesne. Is that right? Brother plays at Duquesne. Dad's like Hall of Fame coach and high school basketball coach in Pittsburgh. In Chartier's Valley, I believe.

He's probably since he's all basketball. And he's from Pittsburgh. And that Chartier's Valley area, they got some dogs in Chartier's Valley. And he's from Pittsburgh. And they're charging the Valley area. They got some dogs. They're charging the Valley. And McConnell's certainly one of them. I assume the whole damn family.

That video of McConnell that you put out while he's walking back after. I'm a fucking dog. Yeah. Just didn't draw out the dog. No. It was just standard dog. Yeah, it was. It's become a great T.J. McConnell show.

Surprisingly to nobody, the live arena loves this dude because he's a showman. It is a gladiator type feeling. Are you not entertained whenever shit's happening with him on the court? I love the moxie. Now, speaking of being on the court, there was a guy for most of my adulthood that at this time he was still on TV. Now he's not. Ladies and gentlemen, Ty has a question for you. Yeah, big perk. There are now reports coming out that LeBron is not involved in any way

in the Lakers' new coaching search. Said, hey, that's an organizational decision. That's not my room. That's not my cross to bear. I think most people think that's kind of bullshit. They think LeBron's probably the one pulling all the strings. But when you look at how young and how talented all these teams are in both the west and the east like does this matter at all whoever the lakers hire you know jj reddick obviously that's a

that's a nice name and everything that'd be exciting but does it matter who the lakers hire eventually like are they just kind of done when you look at the landscape of the Eastern and Western Conference right now? No, it does matter. It does matter. And let me explain why. Because the Lakers, I understand LeBron James, you know, arguably the greatest player of all time, right? We could debate that another day.

You guys do all the time on first take. I mean, didn't it? Yep. But I'm saying we could debate that another day, okay? do all the time on first take. I'm saying we could debate that another day. Here's the thing. I'm saying it will get debated today. At some point.

Here's what I'm saying. I feel like with the Lakers, this doesn't need to be a LeBron James hire. This needs to be an Anthony Davis hire, okay? Anthony Davis is the guy that is in his prime. Anthony Davis is the guy that needs to have the keys to this organization, not riding in the passenger seat trying to drive the car,

but give him the keys. I believe that the Lakers will make a move this offseason and bring in a third star. I don't know if that's going to be Donovan Mitchell. I don't know if that's going to be Trey Young. I don't know if that's going to be Darius Garland or Jontae Murray. They're going to bring in a third star. They got to get better at the guard position.

So whoever the Lakers hire, they have to be really, really careful for the simple fact that you don't want to lose Anthony Davis. If Anthony Davis become pissed off for some reason because the coach is not, you know, emphasizing him or making him the primary factor, then you could see Anthony Davis getting disgruntled and wanting out of L.A. This has to be an Anthony Davis hire. Not a LeBron James hire. Anthony Davis. Okay, I'm sure that's how it's going to go. Excited to see how it all works out.

We appreciate the hell out of you, Perk. You're killing it on TV, brother. Crushing it. I appreciate y'all. Y'all keep going. Hey, look, tell Conor to fix his body language, man. I still got a lot of love for him. The Celtics are going to get to the NBA Finals.

Now, whether they complete the mission, I don't know. Chris Topper's thing is going to come back healthy because they can't win it all without him. He needs to fix his body language. You need to fix your confidence in the Celtics over the Pacers. We got a lot to fix here. I don't know about that. What are the odds again? Minus 1,000. Okay, for the Celtics over the Pacers. We've got a lot to fix here. I don't know about that. What are the odds again? Minus 1,000.

Okay, for the Celtics to win. Yeah, heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy, heavy favorite. Probably the biggest in the history of a series in playoff history. A huge chance. Western Conference, Eastern Conference, Conference. Conference Finals. Final. Probably the largest spread in history.

Heavy the head, though. Where's the crown? It's disrespectful. It is Tyrese Halliburton putting it right on his shirt. All right. Ladies and gentlemen, champion Kendrick Perkins. Perk. Appreciate you, Perk.

Appreciate it. He loves that Timberwolves defense. He does. They are. He said they smacked the wood like Ricky Stenhouse Jr. smacked Kyle Busch. Whoa. That's what he said. It's messed up.

Ricky Stenhouse didn't even get a good look at our freaking guy anyways. Well, listen. Stiles was way gone. I don't think K.Y. had a good look at that punch coming in. K.Y. had a bottle of water in his hand. We have the video? Yeah, here we go.

Bottle of water in Kyle Busch's hand. I just finished the race. There's fireworks going off in the back. You keep telling people, I rubbed you in the wall. I didn't do that. You're dirty. I don't know what the hell they're exactly saying, but somebody's pissed about something. And I believe there was a crash into a wall. And somebody blamed somebody.

And Stenhouse does a right. Kyle Busch's jaw eats one. Then he falls over a tire. Ricky Stenhouse Jr. Ricky Stenhouse Sr. now throwing rights, trying to fight the hell out of Kyle Busch. Kyle Busch is, oh, no, no. All of a sudden now, Stenhouse's crew is pulling Kyle Busch out.

Kyle Busch's crew says, get off the truck. Get off the truck. That guy needs to be signed to play left tackle. Probably did play offensive line in college. That is who these NASCAR pit crews actually are. This dude probably former college football player. Just hawking people off the

truck just in the name of KY. And I'll tell you what, NASCAR still has their fastball. You see what trailer that happened at? That old number three back there. That was... Dale had a little part in that. Dale had a little part in that. Dale had a little part in that.

Dylan is now running the three and I think that was a big conversation whenever it all happened. But yeah, Ricky was waiting on him. He was. I don't like the way you're driving out there. He was showering and everything. I saw some quotes. I guess Ricky and Kyle got into it a couple years back somewhere.

It was a rivalry. Bad blood. No love lost. Yeah, but then they, you know, I guess they feel like they both race hard, so they have a mutual respect for each other. Okay. Sure, sure. But then there's been some, I guess, some slander going on about some dirty driving maybe and blaming people for stuff. And I think there is a little NASCAR heat between KY and Ricky Stash Jr.,

and I do believe their next race is this upcoming weekend. Let's go. You can see it right there. Those two cars. Yeah, well, Robbins racing. Pit maneuver as if it's a police officer. That's clear as day. That's racing, baby. That's clear as day. You owe them one. To the Icy Hot number 47.

You can't do it. The Icy Hot, good news, going to recover quick. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who might take some time to recover and by the time he recovers, guess what? It's Going to recover quick. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who might take some time to recover. And by the time he recovers, guess what? It's Jets football season. So now optimism is at an all-time high. New Yorker, ladies and gentlemen, a man who's in two Hall of Fames for broadcasting and speaking into microphones,

Ace Stud, Mike Greenberg. Hey, Greeny! Greeny, how you doing, man? Guys, a couple of quick thoughts. First off, just watching that racing there. If Scotty Scheffler had done any of that, he'd been in prison for the rest of his life. That was the first thought that came to my mind. True. The second is, thank you for having me on, because I have to say, for the last several months,

you know that my wife, Stacey, watches you guys every single day. Hi, Stacey, we appreciate you. She follows everything you say on the social, and i can't count for you the number of times she has said to me in the last few months you know how come you're never on that show yeah that's what we're wondering well it's not for lack of being asked so i said well you know the jet season hasn't been in the news so you know maybe they're just not they've lost interest in me so i feel very happy to be back on the show. You need to know that that was not the case at all.

It was that we assumed because we, I mean, this is us being dumb, I guess. I don't like asking humans to come on, especially if they have a lot of jobs. You know, I don't enjoy doing that. So we just assumed that you were probably in the middle. Didn't he, wasn't there a radio? Didn't you have a. Greeny. Don't you have Greeny?

Don't you have Greeny at the same time? I do. I just got off the radio a little while ago, but here I am always available for you guys. Okay, noted. Noted. Alright, so Greeny will be on here weekly, probably a couple times a week to heighten the professionalism of everything.

Speaking of Greeny, I don't know if you got a chance to see it. This weekend, there was a situation, you know, a game seven, where, you know, just a team from little old Indianapolis went into the garden and did some gardening, pal. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Pacers, game seven, the Mecca. You know what we did?

Mm-hmm. You see that? You see that? You see that? In the garden. Whacking weeds. Dominating. That's what the kids from Indianapolis went out there and did to the chagrin of everybody.

In sports media, seemingly. Should I feel as bitter against everybody that has a microphone about the way they talked about the Pacers' chances in this series? And how do you feel as a Knicks fan with a team that had, hey, great year, great year, fantastic year? Well, for starters, I was the one. I said all last week that I thought Friday night was the series. that I thought Friday night was the series. I thought with the turnaround from game six to game seven,

with the Knicks as short in their rotation as they were, I didn't see any conceivable chance that they were going to be able to turn around with travel this time and win a game seven, regardless of where it was played. I think I said last week, I don't care if that game is played at the Garden or on the Moon, I don't see the Knicks winning Game 7. To me, Friday night was the game. And I think Rick Carlisle is going to go to the Hall of Fame for two reasons, or showed

you two things in this series. He knows how to push the right buttons. At the end of the day, all coaches can make good adjustments and bad adjustments and good moves and bad moves. And the move to put Neesmith on Jalen Brunson in Game 3 was one that I almost thought he waited a game longer than he should have. All coaches do that. But I think he pushed two excellent buttons during this series.

I think the button he pushed at the end of Game 2, with his players and with the fans in Indiana, and you obviously were there, we all saw you sitting courtside, playing the small market card the way he did, playing the us against the world card, I thought that was really smart. And then the second piece of it that I think he did really well, as far as that's concerned, is the way he challenged his guys after game five. The difference in game five was not any adjustment. It wasn't anything that Tibbs did.

People are quick to try and give him credit. And I'm not suggesting he didn't do anything. In game five, the Knicks played like they needed it, and the Pacers didn't. The Pacers played like the moment was too big for them. They looked jittery in the garden. All this gardening that you were doing looked like it was actually getting to them.

And Carlisle basically said, and you guys probably have the quote um you know carlisle said guys you just got your ass handed to you get a rebound dive on the floor play like you're where you're supposed to be and i thought this team really responded to that they came out on friday exactly the way they needed to they looked like the desperate team in a game that i thought the Knicks should have been desperate to win. And after game six, there was no question in my mind the Pacers were going to win yesterday. They're kind of like America's team, too. Able to take tough coaching.

They came together. Added a star, Paschal Siakam. Siakam, obviously, you added him midseason. No problem at all all Miles Turner being able to adjust with Tyrese Halliburton comes in and becomes

the star signs a massive five-year deal TJ McConnell just doing his role guy with sweet fade Ben Shepard dog

dog Ben Shepard is a dog weapon you know and then Rick Carlisle you look at a guy you're like

that guy looks like Jim Carrey what else can he do oh head coach 22 years in the NBA. He's got a team in Indiana. Completely relevant again. And breaking the hearts of the big city. Greeny, you know it.

The bias coverage was something that, you know, we just, we were sick of, Greeny. We were sick of it out here. You know what I mean? Sick of it. I'm not surprised. We heard a lot of that last year, too, when the Nuggets were playing the Lakers in the

Western Conference Finals. There was a lot, and then we wound up in Denver. So we traveled, and by we, I mean I was on countdown at that time, so Stephen A., Michael Wilbon, Jalen, and me were in Denver for the NBA Finals. And believe me, I heard it. I heard

from all of the Denver fans, all you guys talked about was the Lakers, all you talked about was LeBron, all you talked about was the Lakers, all you talked about was LeBron. And that's just the reality of the situation. The media capital of the world is New York. The networks are overrun and lousy with New York-based fans, Stephen A. Smith obviously being at the top of that list and by far the most prominent person that we have. So that was the way it was going to be. I actually think it worked to the benefit, to the point I made about the Game 2 star, I think it worked to the benefit of the Pacers. I think Carlisle played that really, really well. He basically said,

no one thinks we have a chance. No one wants us here. It's just us against the world. And I think didn't Halliburton say something like that yesterday in the postgame, right? He said, no one gave us a chance. And Miles Turner co-signed that. So look, those things can work in either direction. And I think it wound up working in the Pacers' favor over the course of the series. I agree. Incredible motivation. It sounds like Tyrese Halliburton is a guy, though, that does pick up, you know, things to be pissed off about. And Rick Carlisle continuing, you know things to be pissed off about and rick carlisle continuing you know to push the right buttons is a beautiful story here now on the other side with your guys's coach go ahead con man yeah greeny obviously there's been a lot of fodder around tibbs just

kind of running this team into the ground is that yeah everything okay over there do you run you into the ground too there yeah you okay no i think i just i'm i always have to have something i'm fidgeting in my fingers and i just dropped the cap to this bottle sorry about that i don't want to interrupt hold on though because i have a similar uh thing those spinners when they were out did you use them those fidget spinners no i i should have but no i know what you're talking about but i think those came after my time this probably came out when you were little and i was already like in my 30s i think you were in your second Hall of Fame already, but it came and went

pretty quick. It did. It was a good run. I'm fidgety, obviously. I mean, I stand for the others. But nonetheless, Coach Tibbs, did he have his team standing too long? So, yes. I think, you know, we don't live in a world

where both things can be true is a popular answer to questions. But both things can be true. Tom Thibodeau can have done an incredible job, took this team farther than perhaps any other coach would have, and deserved consideration for coach of the year this year. I actually voted him third on my ballot for coach of the year. All that is 100% true. And the players love him. All of that is true. But it is also true that the incredibly tight rotation that he plays has

historically caught up to his teams in the playoffs. Now, you can take each individual injury they had this year, and you probably could explain almost all of them away. So the Julius Randle thing, he took a charge and busted up his shoulder. Bogdanovich got stepped on, and that was the end of his foot. Mitchell Robinson got yanked down on a dirty play by Joel Embiid, and that was the end of him. The only real injury that I think was caused by the strain might have been the Ananobi injury in game two,

where he just played all these 46 minutes. You would know better than I would what it's like to run, run, run like that and then have your hamstring blow out. I mean, you know, I've never run that far, literally. If you added up all the running I've done in my entire life, I haven't run as far as those guys were running in each individual game. And then you see a guy like Alec Brooks come off the bench. I forgot Alec Brooks was on the team, to be completely honest with you.

And then he comes in and he's playing well. You're telling me he couldn't have gotten some minutes. So there is room for criticism of Fibita without question here. But is that the reason they lost? No. The reason they lost is sports are, as often as anything else, they're about who stays healthy. I mean, that's as often as anything else, they're about who stays healthy. That's as significant as anything.

The Knicks were an incredibly deep team this year, just like the Pacers are now. They just wound up being depleted, partially because of the coach perhaps, but more because sometimes the luck just goes against you. Hey, it was a great year for the Knicks. Truly. Well, so this is actually something that I wanted to say. I loved it. So I'm going to do this on the TV show tomorrow.

But Jalen Brunson, and it was the right answer, right? Jalen Brunson was asked afterwards, do you consider this season to be a success? And he said, no, we didn't go to the finals. We didn't get close. I don't consider that a success. And I, that's how I want the star of my team talking. That's how you want your leader talking. That's the tone you want to set for the entire organization.

We're not satisfied. All that kind of stuff. I get all of that. It's the right thing to say. But it also isn't true. So not every team that loses is a failure. The Denver Nuggets season is a failure, without question. The Indiana Pacers season is a screaming success if they get swept in the next round,

which, by the way, I don't think they're going to do. But if they got swept in the next round, their season is still by no means a failure. Are you kidding me? That's what I mean. This is not a failure. And the same for the Knicks. The Knicks season is an enormous success. It's a disappointing ending. They would have liked it to go farther, but not all seasons that don't end in championships are failures, and the Knicks season certainly is not one. Hey, man, and I'm not a big everybody deserves

to win, you know, guy, but I think you're 100% right. That was a good speech. You should do that on TV. You should do that on TV. Actually, I'm going to do my list of the five. How about this? I'm giving it away. This is tomorrow's game. Top five! Top five! Top five teams whose season were a success

regardless of how they end. And number one is the Pacers. I'm putting the Pacers at number one. I think regardless of what happens from this point forward, their season is an enormous success. Regardless of what happens from this point. Are you doing just basketball? Or are you doing all sports?

Yeah, just basketball. No, just the five teams in the NBA right now. Maybe broaden that then. You know, because Lions, think about Lions fans last year. Well, I mean, that was a good topic then. See, the difference with the Lions was they don't put you in halls of fame for bringing things up five months later. No, of course not.

Here's what I'll say, McAfee. That the Lions, it was a great story until they blew it. Until the Lions had that game absolutely won in the second half and handed it back. That was what really got to me. Such real life.

You Lions fans blew it, dude. Greatest season of our lives. That was a W all day. It's okay that that last game didn't end how we wanted it to. And then they gave money to everybody. Yeah. Everybody on the team somehow. We're excited to watch it all unfold. But let's talk a little football here as we're running up on a hard out.

Go ahead, D. Speaking of, about 100 days out from the football season started. Your Jets, obviously, we know what happened the first game. But now, OTAs are starting. How do you feel about this all season for your Jets? Terrified. There has never been in the history of sports a larger chasm between the realistic possible finishes for any team I can think of if you told me right now the Jets are going to be great and they're going to be playing Kansas City in the AFC championship game that actually wouldn't be that surprising if you told me the Jets are going to fire their coach by Halloween, I actually don't

think that would be that surprising. I think the possibilities are that vast. I think if this team stays generally healthy, if Aaron stays healthy, and if some of these guys that they brought in stay healthy, the Jets have as much talent. I'll say this as loudly as I can. The Jets have as much talent. I'll say this as loudly as I can. The Jets have as much talent as any team in the entire NFL. There are just a million question marks, first and foremost with the coaching, secondly with the injuries.

If those two things both come back yes, it would not stun me if I'm on this show talking about the Jets making a Super Bowl run this coming year. Yeah, we will be sending invitations now that we know that you'll stop your radio show somehow to do this particular show. We're lucky for it. We can't thank you enough for everything you've done for us, pal. Well, guys, you know what? Can I tell you?

It is a pleasure. My wife will be happy now. Go ahead. Garden something. Give me a little something there. Yeah, the Knicks. In the garden. Ben Stiller.

Jason Bateman. Spike Lee. Jasoneman! Spike Lee! Jesse Morgan! Spike Lee! Chris Rock! Stephen A. Smith! I like today. Just did some gardening.

Had to do some gardening. We appreciate it. Thank you so much for joining us, ladies and gentlemen. Two Hall of Famers, Mike Greenberg. See you soon. Yay! I wonder how many times that has been done in sports. A thousand?

I can't wait for the photos. A thousand times in the garden doing gardening? I don't know if I've ever seen someone take a weed whacker out and put it into a microphone. That might be the first. Yeah. That might be the first. I think so. I can really control which way to...

Yeah, absolutely. You, Bob Vila, and Tim, the tool man, Taylor. Oh. Sports! Oh, wonderful. Sports are the greatest thing on earth, and we're lucky to talk about them every single day. I'm not alone, obviously.

The Toxic Table is here. At Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Sweet dog. Hey, thank you very much. Nice little doorman. And this was actually for the Pacers. They were dogs for that whole entire series. There's electric.

We got to go to a couple games. I mean, I am jacked up that they won. I don't want that to get lost in the fact that they are, you know, huge, huge, monumental, biblically underdogs against these. Yeah, underdogs. You know, that's gotten people a long way. Especially. Are you sure? What type of dog is that?

It's a Rottweiler. It's a Rottweiler. I always get the two wrong as well. I do have one, but the only real difference Dobermans are disciplined looking. So that's the only real difference. They're skittier Rottweilers. They're super disciplined. They're a Zen's the only real difference. The neighboring. Yeah, they're skittier Rottweilers. They're super disciplined.

Super disciplined, exactly. They're a Zempic Rottweiler. Or the Doberman's neighborhood down the road. Two Dobermans that sit outside of his house. They're being so tall. Tall is right. Yeah. Oh yeah, they're big. When they're laying down, they look like

horses and dogs. They are a beautiful dog. I mean, they are. They're intimidating. The left there is the Doberman. The right is the Rottweiler. Yeah, and you can't have Dobermans that have ears. Those ears are clipped.

You've got to make them to have ears that way when they're young. Yeah, well, the clip decision is a whole other conversation, I do believe, for ears on most dogs. But that particular breed there is a badass dog, yep, definitely, is a badass dog. So is the Rottweiler. Oh, yeah. We've got a lot of dogs out here. Ty Schmidt's here.

Do Packers do anything sweet? They sign most of their draft picks. There we go. So, yeah, I think we've got three guys left. So, yeah, I mean, everything's looking good. You're paying attention to Western Conference hockey. The Las Vegas Golden Knights, obviously, used to be the Kings over there. Are you paying attention now that the Vegas Golden Knights are out?

Yeah, a little bit. I'll be honest, as long as the team from Canada doesn't win, that's really all I have. That's kind of... One half of the hammer. Cowboys turn digs is here. One game tonight, it's an NHL game. Yeah, I probably won't watch that one because both teams are from Canada and don't care.

Conor Mc David's awesome. He is. West Coast. He is, too. What's this about? What is this about? I'm cheering for your Dallas Stars, pal. Hey, I'm cheering for Texas Hawk all the way, brother,

but Coover's Edmonton, that's good block right there. What are you talking about? Game seven. Game seven. Best player in the league. Yeah, okay, let's maybe start it at 7-15 instead of 10-45. How does that sound? It is tough to finish some of these games or start some of them.

Bingo. Exactly. Depending upon what's going on before it. But tonight, obviously, we've got Monday Night Raw right into an 11-15 puck drop. Yep. For the Cougars, Oilers. Raw's going to be elite. Oh, it's going to be a Greensboro.

Is that what finals that we're talking about? Yep. Oh, the King and the Queen already? Okay. Yep. Wow. Yep. I don't remember.

Is Dragunovsky still? All the sports are the same. He. Yep. I don't remember. Is Dragunovsky still? All the sports are semi-final. He's named Delia Dragunov. I don't like that as much as Dragunovsky. NHL semi-final. King of the ring, semi-final. Yeah, we're in it right now. We are in it right now.

It's playoffs, baby. It's playoffs season. Nine-year NFL vet. A man whose team in the hockey is still doing it. Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Ball. Florida Panthers representing, you know, obviously taking on Bruce, who's Rangers,

who, you know, they're a rough, tough bunch this year. True. But is anybody as rough and tough as the Florida Panthers? Nah. They're a bullying squad down there. You wouldn't expect that. You know, it's a hockey town down there. It is a hockey town.

Hey, what? It is a hockey town. What's everyone doing here? What are you talking about? I get it. I would want to be the hockey town as well, but we can't just every single team that's good at hockey say they're hockey town. Well, Pittsburgh is certainly hockey. That's this show's fault, by the way.

Actually, that's your fault right there. You've got to be in the playoffs to be considered hockey town. No, just Google it. Don't talk about us, please. Maybe Texas hockey is hockey town. Oh, okay. See, that's what you're talking about, Foxy.

It is disrespectful what everybody's doing. Dallas might be the hockey town. Sunrise, Florida is not hockey town. No, it's not. Okay. But we do have Kachuk coming on, I do believe, tomorrow. So hold on. You can't wait to chat with him.

He is a beast. He is a dog in every sense of the word. I do appreciate that you and Bruce are taking each other on. Florida favored. Here we go. Joining us now is a man who's won championships at the college level and a professional level. What? He's the current president of the state of Ohio.

Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. Hawker. A.J. Hawker. Hawker, how you doing, buddy? I mean, I'm with D-Buck. When I walk down Los Olas Boulevard in Port Lauderdale, I think this is hockey. Oh, yeah. This is the grit. This is hockey.

Yeah, dude, you're down on A1A Beachfront Avenue. I was boasting on the ground. I sent you guys a little shot. There's a flag. There's a flag on telephone pole down by the beach. Florida Panthers hockey. Sitting at Louis Boss. He's thinking this is a hockey town.

Oh, yeah. I love that. Look at you guys diving into the hockey down there in Miami. We got so many snowbirds from Boston, from New York. This is going to be great. Mobsters coming down. That's been happening since the beginning of time, seemingly. Don't bring up Boston.

You guys are done now. Don't bring it up. I won't. You're right. Thank you. What did happen to Boston Bruins? seemingly. Don't bring up Boston. You guys are done now. Don't bring it up. I won't. You're right. Thank you. What happened? What did happen to Boston Bruins? I mean, look, you can't win all these games 2-1. When you got a goalie standing

on his head, you need goals. We were scoring two goals max against these guys. I don't know what else you want to do. Boston needs to shoot the goddamn puck. That's what needed to happen. So yeah, we don't have a lot of offense. Our best player needs to shoot the puck 15 times, and he won't shoot it.

And then, yeah, some stupid, shitty shot squeaks through Sway because all he's trying to do is get back on his feet because he's been standing on his head for seven damn games. And then he squeaks. It's just horse shit. That's what it is. But we're on his basketball season, baby. We're on horse shit. That's what it is. But we're on. It's basketball season, baby. We're on the pace. We're on the pace.

Congrats to Boston having that ability, and New York does as well. The Rangers in the Knicks. It's a real shame. I don't know if you saw. I gardened earlier, AJ. I did some gardening. I saw. Yeah, I was impressed by you gardening around the studio.

Is that yours, or is that Tim's? Who brought that in? Actually, these were purchased from local Aces. Hardware. You can door dash everything. You can door dash a hoe. You can door dash a hoe. You can door dash a little hand shovel.

You can do whatever you need to do. Shout out to DoorDash for making your life better. But the electric weed whacker is Zito's. There was a full conversation on whether or not we're going to buy a brand new one. Because Thunderdome probably does need a little weed whacker is Zito's. And there was a full conversation on whether or not we're going to buy a brand new one. You know, because Thunderdome probably does need a little weed whacker. Yeah, maybe. You know, because you clean up. I saw a guy this weekend.

Had that son of a bitch up this way. Sidewalking down his sidewalk. Nothing better. Oh, my God. It was phenomenal. His neighbor's Bush League looking ass. Grass. He sat on the front porch immediately after that and was like,

look at fucking Ted's bullshit front yard. He was killing it. I bet. That's real. We need that here for the Thunderdome. But instead, we just got Zito's because Zito does that at the house. I bet you Zito's front yard is fantastic. Oh, yeah.

What was that? What was that, Tony? You got some issues with his front yard? No, I said maybe his new one. His old one, he self-admittedly let go a little bit. I was in between lawnmowers. I didn't have a deer. I do recall the neighborhood app talking about Zeta-Jar.

Now that you bring that up. I did it for Halloween. I wanted tall grass so I could pop hot and go, here's my candy. He would actually drive around the neighborhood in a John Deere lawnmower. But wouldn't cut his own for the gimmick. So the neighbors were real pissed. This guy, he has a tractor. He has a lawnmower.

How do you know? We saw him roll right down the middle of the street. Every day driving in that thing. Say, going to Uncle Frank's. We have local high school superstars mowing his lawn for a little bit there, too. That's right. He swindled a couple local kids into cutting the lawn because their parents were about fed up. Yeah, exactly.

Those kids got full rights of Ball State, by the way. Hey, Trevor. I bought them pads. Nice. Well, it's not only buying them pads. It's training them out, by the way. Hey, Trevor. I bought them pads. Nice. Well, it's not only buying them pads. It's training them out there in the summer. It's getting hot. It's supposed to be 90 today here in Indianapolis with 400% humidity.

That's where we are now, right? From here on out. It seems like we are in the humidity, 88 degrees every single day, I feel like. So the Indy 500 is this upcoming weekend, you know? Oh, I know. Everybody knows that. It's been race month. It's been race month. It's been race month, right?

Damn right. Right. Everyone's got their checkered flags, even in Ohio. I'm close to Indiana, and they checkered flags everywhere. It's May in Indianapolis. I'm sure there's a lot of Ohioans coming over for the great spectacle and racing. 300,000 people will be embarking on this city here in a few days for the Indy 500. Kyle Larson of NASCAR is doing the double, the Indy 500, then the Coca-Cola 600 on the same day.

1,100 miles race, brother. And we all know Kyle Larson has to be the greatest wheel man. You know? He has to be. I have no idea how else we are currently. How motivated. Weapon. Has to be.

It has to be so good. This cat can drive, man. He has to, and he can. Turns out. Guy almost got the pole for the Indy 500. First time NASCAR guy's done this in like forever or whatever. Man. Yeah, like he went into IndyCar and went to our qualities this weekend.

He had to bail on one particular one because his car wasn't working right, but he ends up in the fast six. He's going to be fifth position, which is huge, massive, because it seems like he knows the track already. Gets another week of training. Then he hopped in a plane, then a chopper, and got to which? Yep. Be careful.

Back in the news. Once again. Inclement weather. Need clear skies. Exactly. These helicopters need clear skies. Yep. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Correct. That is. Kyle Larson hops into a chopper, goes to the all-star race, which obviously we all know because Kyle Busch and Ricky Stenhouse Jr. and Sr. got into a fight with each other. So there's a lot happening in race, in the race world this particular week. I think there's a bunch of – Monaco?

F1? What? That's this week. When is that? That's Sunday. Is that right? Who won this weekend? Max by the hair of his chinny-chin-chin.

Lando pushed it to the limit. He always does. We had a hell of a race with McLaren. But Monaco will suck. The race will suck. Qualifying will be great. Yeah, but why do you guys put that on the same day as the Indy 500, do you think? Why does the F1 put that?

I mean, you know, that's their Super Bowl. Arrogance. That's their Super Bowl. The Monaco is the Super Bowl or no? I mean, it's the spectacle. It is the spectacle. The cars have gotten too big. This sport.

Can we just put it to bed for once? In my opinion, the cars have gotten, and this is what a lot of the marks says, well, the cars have gotten too big over the years for the track. The track, a lot of tight corners. So we should get Kyle Larson there. They should. I would hope that that would potentially be able to happen at some point, you know, just to see where everybody's at.

Why don't they do, like, a special? Because they have, you know, those 24-hour races where people race different cars. Why don't they just do different cars? Why don't they just do, like, actual cars around the city so that they can actually pass like cruising the world or just do like a burlap sack race around the track instead oh oh you think like maybe three-legged race yeah exactly hey it's a little bit different uh one of your teammates you guys are going to be three-legged and you're going to run around the track and that's how we're going to decide my more competitive that'd be. I'd watch that in a heartbeat.

That's what I mean. It's not a bad idea, I don't think. At least for one race. Maybe just one of them. I did not expect that level of disrespect. No, I just, you know, I mean. I thought we were brainstorming. What if they rode horses?

What if the drivers rode horses? On concrete, that'd be good. With BB guns. Pebble, I think. I think there was a horse race this week. Nobody knew about it, but it happened. It was pretty nasty. With BB guns. Pebble, I think. I think there was a horse race this weekend. Nobody knew about it, but it happened. Hey, it was pretty nasty. Way to go.

Seize the gray. Seize the gray. That's right. Seize the gray. Big win at Preakness. That was awesome running. Joining us now is a guy who's been on an incredible run as well. Yeah.

Obviously, NHL legend. He was a Knicks fan somehow there for a bit. But now, Jake Tatum. Jake Tatum. Ladies and gentlemen, BK Super. Yeah, BK. There it is. Go check stuff, baby.

Not rat. Let's go. Let's go. Yes. All right. Listen. Jake Tatum. There it is.

There. Oh, bucket. Okay. So what happens is. There, oh, oh, bucket. Okay. So what happens if Knicks Celtics happened? Well, you would still do the Tatum impersonation, but you'd be a Knicks fan? Because remember, it wasn't too long ago. Knicks and Six. Knicks and Six.

Now we're all in on the New England area. Love it. Listen, I've been wearing Dorchester shirts since I was 20. So I've been going to the dot for a while now. So I got to show love and respect to the neighborhood, my best friends from there, his family's from there. So I got love for Dorchester. But I am truly disappointed that my Knicks aren't moving on.

But they fought hard. There wasn't much left of our team at the end of the playoffs, missing a lot of players, but we'll be back. We'll be back. They did. Everything's going to be all right. You know what I mean? Doesn't it feel like that's a lot of that out of the Knicks fans?

Everybody's hurt. We get it. This is professional sports. It's playoffs. I don't like it. Jalen Brunson was awesome. It was fun to watch him through this year. I got to go to a couple games because it was happening here

in Indianapolis. He is fantastic to watch. Dee Vincenzo, that son of a bitch has one of these. Whenever it's he is phenomenal. Looks cool out there as well. And then Hartstein. Josh Hart.

Hartstein. Josh Hart. I enjoyed that Knicks team. But it's like acting like you're the only people that have injuries. Like that is – this is a standard operating procedure. Come on, Pat. It's playoff. It's playoff. It's playoff. This happens.

This is what football happens. It's the whole team's injured. The whole team's injured. I just said a bunch of – You're a hockey guy. O.G. The injuries happen. He played, actually, in the game seven.

That was only for a few minutes because his hamstrings. That Mitchell Robinson, that was a dirty play. Him being hurt, that stinks. I loved watching their team, and I can't wait for it. But just the lack of A Pacers, that was phenomenal. You just did a historical offensive. Yeah, thank you. There it is.

Thank you. There it is. Thank you. That's all we're asking. We understand the Knicks weren't at 100%, but now you'll cheer for the Celtics, obviously, who are taking on the Pacers yet again. So we can't wait to deal with it.

Let's talk hockey. Tonight, Game 7. Here we go. Cougars, Oilers, the Battle of Western Canada is taking place. What do we need to look for here? Who do we think is advancing to take on Texas hockey, PK? Well, big loss for the Vancouver Canucks losing Brock Bester. That's one of my homies.

This guy, they need this guy going into a game seven situation. They're going to be without him for what I'm hearing is the rest of the playoff run, which is a massive blow. They've already lost their number one goaltender, their number two goaltender, so they're a little bit thin.

But they still have enough to get it. PK, that's because blood clots? Is that what it said? Yeah, that's what they're saying. They're saying blood clots. So, I mean, you never know with this stuff. Is he gone for the rest of the playoffs or not? We know he's not playing tonight.

That's a huge loss. Huge loss for the Vancouver Canucks. But I picked Edmonton to win in six games. I'm betting on Connor McDavid tonight. I still think game six, even though he had three assists, wasn't anything close to his best game. There's still another level or two to his game, and I think that in game seven, it's their game to lose.

Edmonton coming off of a big game six. It's their time now. It's their time, and I'm lose. Edmonton coming off of a big game six. It's their time now. It's their time, and I'm rolling with Edmonton. Okay, so this is a big deal for McDavid's legacy or no? I mean, everybody wants to push it there. Guys, I'm not going there with that. For me, this is another opportunity for him. Now, listen, if he comes and puts a goose egg on the board

and he's nowhere to be found out there, that's a different story. That's not going to happen. That's not McDavid. That's not happening. Every night he's been one of the best players on the ice. This is a tough time to win. And Edmonton, as great as they played all year, I still don't think

they're the best team left in the Stanley Cup playoffs. I think Dallas is better than them. I think Florida's better than them. I think the Rangers are deeper than them. They're all better in net and on the back end. If Connor doesn't win this year, it's not the end of the world, but that window's definitely closing.

His opportunity to win a Stanley Cup in Edmonton, it's got to happen sooner than later. It's enough time now. It's time to get over the hump. They're getting close. I love those Edmonton fans. I love them. Crazies. Send Connor to Pittsburgh.

Do we give him a Jesus in Pittsburgh? No, no. We're keeping Sidney. We're keeping Sidney. It goes from Lemieux to Sid to McDavid. We know how to take care of the boys. We'll get them championships.

They've all won championships. Cops, Lordos coming home. Yeah. And Pittsburgh with the Fenway Sports Group as the owners? Yeah, they suck. What is going on? Allegedly, assumingly. You guys want to get into that?

You really want to get into that now? Kind of. Fenway? Well, there's game seven tonight, but anything else, yeah, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, I'd like to stick to game seven. I'm not getting into Pittsburgh and the Fenway group, what's going on over there right now. I gotta see what they do

over the offseason to get that team ready to compete. Is Sidney Crosby still having 40-goal seasons, still playing at that level? They gotta be in the playoffs. They're trying to buy another soccer team right now, don't worry. They got more money to go around. Yeah, a lot of people saying since LeBron joined, it's kind of changed.

No! You can't say that. That's what they're saying. That's not me. I'm not saying that. The Fenway Sports Group owns the Red Sox. And they have gone like this since one guy joined. I'm not naming names.

Okay. Not that time. Oh, okay. Alright. Anyway, so you don't like them. You don't think they're going to be good. That's what it sounds like. Well, it's not that I don't think that they're going to be good. I just thought that it was a questionable decision and everybody says, well, PK, it's a cap world.

They had to move Jake Gensel out of Pittsburgh. But if you're going to move them, you've got to bring in someone that helps you now. And listen, Bunting, great player, brings an element, but that's not enough for me. So I was disappointed in that move, but I'm more disappointed. I'm more disappointed that Sidney Crosby isn't on the GM and who's putting that team together isn't putting him in the best position to A, make the playoffs every year

and win when he gets there. Like, Pittsburgh should have been in the playoffs. He shouldn't have missed the playoffs. Agreed. Instead, Washington gets in. Easy. Rangers just kind of sweep, walk right through. And Penn's got hot late. They put himself in a position, though, that it was impossible to get out of. And then they trade away the guy who goes and leads

the Carolina team. Who was hitting the siren? Did we ever find out who hit the siren? The rowing coach for NC State. Oh, okay. That's what Jimmy Graham's going to do across the Arctic. AJ's got a question for you, PK. PK, talking about Sidney Crosby

and their whole organization, how does it work in the NHL? And we know in the NFL, certain quarterbacks have more kind of influence than others when it comes to front office, how they build the roster. Do you know if Sidney has some kind of control over there, if he is in the front office trying to manipulate the roster and bring the guys in that he wants? Well, I'd like to hope so.

I'd like to hope that he weighs in on it and they involve him in it and that he doesn't have to ask. I'd like to hope that they call him and they ask for his opinion on these things because he's a massive part of their organization and what they've built in Pittsburgh since he was drafted there. It's the decision. When I look at Pittsburgh and where it went wrong, as great as Eric Carlson is, and I love Eric Carlson. I'm one of his biggest fans. I've competed against him. The guy's won Norris Pro Beats. He has an element. Yeah, I know, against. There's an element. No, no, I'm not against it.

I'm not against it. I'm just reminded of it every time you say it. It's great. Yeah, I know. I know. I time you say it. It's great. Yeah, I know. I know. I can't help it. But with Eric Carlson, there's an element of his game that he brings that is very, very difficult to find in the National Hockey League. But what he also brings is an $11 million cap hit.

And for me, you've got a guy like Chris Letang on the back end who already brings a lot of those intangibles. Yes, he's a little bit older than Eric Carlson, but Eric Carlson, you have to say, is kind of on the back part of his career now, right? And he's still got a lot of hockey left, but he's on the backside of that career. I just didn't see that move in terms of money making sense for the Pittsburgh Penguins.

You know you got to re-sign Malkin. You know you got Crosby. You know you need to leave space to re-sign Gensel. I just didn't understand the need to go out and get a defenseman like Eric Carlson. I think that there's a lot of teams out there that could use Eric Carlson. Is Pittsburgh that team? I just didn't think that was the right fit. Now, Eric Carlson could come back next season, win a Norris Trophy,

be back in the playoffs with Pittsburgh, and everything is great. Maybe. But for this specific season, I just knew too much money. You got to manage the cap. That's your job as a GM. So I didn't like all the moves that they made, but that's just me. That's my opinion. I like how much Pittsburgh Penguins we've been talking,

because they didn't make the playoffs, so they're not in the Eastern Conference Finals. The team that is, though, Darius has a question for you. Yeah, you know, I'm still riding high off our Panthers win over the Bruins. Hey, congratulations. Uh-huh, uh-huh. Now we got a tough test, obviously, coming in with the Rangers this series. What should I know about this matchup between these two teams?

It's going to be a very, very physical, heated, emotional series. Now, you would say, well, PK, what's the difference between this series and every other Eastern Conference Final? Well, I mean, well, PK, what's the difference between this series and every other Eastern Conference final? Well, I mean, when you think about what's at stake, the President's Trophy New York Rangers now, 30 years, 94 they win the Stanley Cup, they have an opportunity to kind of

repeat, and coming off of two really emotional series, as much as they basically handled the Washington Capitals pretty easily, still an emotional series for them. They've been clicking. You know, all cylinders go since the drop of the puck

in the first game of the Stanley Cup playoffs. But now when I think about Carolina, they went through some adversity. Their special teams passed the test. Artemi Panarin is still playing some of his best hockey and looks poised to take advantage of the moment, not shy away from it. And then they have Igor Shesterkin, who, in my opinion, has been the best goaltender in the league this year. So all of that, it may not matter if the Florida Panthers come out

and play their game. Because I'm going to tell you why. Florida comes out and they take a rink that might feel like an Olympic-sized rink that the Rangers have been playing on for two rounds, freebies, free passes, and they're going to shrink it to like a backyard rink. And when they do that, now it makes it very, very difficult to play hockey in the Stanley Cup playoffs when you know that you're getting hit every second. Everything's going to be a battle.

It's elbow to elbow, hand-to-hand combat. It's in the corners. It's in the front of the net. And that's exactly what Florida's going to try to do. So a lot of 50-50 pucks, and that's Florida's game. They're going to make this a tough, grueling series for the New York Rangers. And the Rangers got to get ready for that. They have to embrace

it and like it. And I've seen the sandpaper in their game. I've seen the grit in their game during the playoffs. I'm not calling them soft. What about the job? What's that? They got grit. And sandpaper. Missing the job.

Do they have the job? You need jump and you need job. You know that, PK. They got grit. And sandpaper. Missing the jam. Do they have jam? Do they have jam? They have jam. They have grit and the jam. You need jump and you need jam. You know that, PK. The magical three. They need jump and they need jam. They play with a lot of jam. And I'm going to tell you something.

Listen, if the Rangers don't elevate their jump and jam level, the Panthers are going to be jamming it down their throats. Oh! Oh, that's different. Oh, Lord. Oh, geez. Well, I was going to say they're jamming itroats. Oh, jeez. Well, I was going to say they're jamming it somewhere else.

Oh! Do not. Do not. That is how they rolled the dog. Who wins? Tatum. Oh! Tatum.

He can. Who wins, you think? Who's winning? You know, I'm going to go out on a limb. I'm going to stick with the Rangers, man. I think the Rangers got it all going on. Way to go, Grace. Good for a Knicks fan. I'm going to take the Rangers in this series.

New York is a hockey city, and now it's official. They've outlasted the New York Knicks. So once again, to prove my point, that the New York City is a hockey city. So it's official now, and now they have a chance to win a championship. What's your guys' problem? Why are you starting inner New York City beef? Hey, I'm not starting any beef. I'm a starting any beef.

Hockey's still here for you. Don't worry about it. That's what you were just saying. Yeah. Hockey's here, man. This looks to be. I knew from the very start of the year this was the Rangers' year. I watched them closely, played against them the past couple seasons. I really believe that this is their best chance to win a championship.

They have enough with this team to do it. All the answers are in that locker room. They have a good enough coach, good enough goaltending. Their special teams have done well. Now it's up to the players. I think they have enough to get it done, but the Florida Panthers

are going to make it very, very difficult. The biggest key to that series is going to be matchups. How are the Rangers going to match up against Barkov and Kachuk if those guys are on different lines? Good luck doing that because if you're going to keep Lindgren and Fox together against one of those lines, it's going to be tough to handle down low. Going against one of those guys, that's a big one.

Yeah. It's a problem. Barkov's a monster. It is. You're in the oven the whole time big one. Yeah. It's a problem. Barkov's a monster. It is. You're in the oven the whole time. You're right. Going against Barkov. Bark.

Barkov. Barkov. Barkov. Mark Barkov. What trophy did you just win? Best defensive forward. Selke. Selke.

Who? The Felke, hell yeah. Selke woman. The Selke trophy. I'm so proud of him. He only won it because Bertrand retired. Everyone knows that. So as you were talking there, and we're pumped about Bark.

Hell yeah. Big Bark. Bark Bark. The dog's barking down there. You talked about the Rangers. You said they got good coach, Imani. You got good goaltending, Swayme. You got good special teams, I assume that.

There's a team that just for some reason, what's the deal? Connor has a question for you, PK. Yeah, PK, I was lucky enough to go to the Bruins game on Friday night, and as we were walking out after that just devastating loss, a lot of fans were saying like, hey, look, this team overperformed. If you were to tell us that they would have gone to the second round, taken the Panthers six games at the beginning of the season, would have thought you were crazy.

Is that the sentiment that I should feel after this game? And then also, what do they need to do to get – can you just shut up for a second? Oh, no. Greeny's not fine. I'm trying to ask him a real question about real hockey fans. About how real hockey fans feel, okay? And no, I'm not going to be happy about it.

I understand that some fans can feel that way if you're part of a team and you've rooted for a team that's never won anything, of course. The Bruins have won a cup in the last hundred years, so yes, it is much different than a Lions fan, but with that being said, PK, what do the B's need to do to get better?

Posta needs to take 50 shots a game even though he won't shoot the puck, or do they need to go out and get another piece, maybe a Carlson like you mentioned that pittsburgh shouldn't have done yeah for the bruins first of all bruins fans sit back and enjoy the summer you guys have been i mean they call boston the city of champions right you guys have won so many don't say jay tatum don't say jay tatum and don't say this after wearing a Dorchester and yelling about Jay Tatum. Okay, brother? Hey, I'm just saying he's a bad man.

Just be careful, dude. Don't let him get. If he starts playing in the air, it could be trouble. Anyway, I'll say this. Bruins fans can definitely feel good about it. I know that it's not the result that you wanted. feel good about it. I know that it's not the result that you wanted. You wanted to see your team take that

other step and vindicate what happened to them via the Florida Panthers last year, but that's just who the Florida Panthers are right now. They're a well-built team. I think that we can all respect the style of play in which they play come playoff time. A lot of players

on that Florida team, I'm sure that people would love to see on the other side playing for the Bruins. So you got to hats off to the Florida Panthers and Paul Maurice for executing. But for the Bruins and where they got to get ready better. Number one Swayman I mean this guy's

all world. You could listen Swayman I mean seriously he played outstanding for that team. And I think it's consistency for Boston. I think a lot of the pieces are in that room, but it's getting consistency out of those players. And I think Jim Montgomery did a phenomenal job.

I really hope that everybody in Boston is singing his praises as well because the guys love to play for him, and I really hope that he continues to be the bench boss in boston for a long time but those players got to look at themselves i think that some of the guys got going a little bit too late that you can't get going too late in the playoffs you got to get going right from the start and i think boston just took too long to find their game they found it against florida they just found it too late. So it's the consistency element. And yes,

I think they do need some help on the back end. I'm sure Grizzlik won't be there, but someone that could come in and maybe offload, run the power play. I think that Charlie McAvoy's a great player, but he hasn't won a North trophy yet. He's not a guy that's putting up 70, 80 points, 90 points a year

as a power play guy. He's not in that conversation with the Yosses and the Quinn Hughes and the Kael McCars in terms of what they can do offensively. So to have someone that can help out on the special teams on the back end, I think would help the Boston Bruins a lot. Now, is it $11 million

that they need to spend? I don't know. That's the cap world. That's why I'm not a GM. Maybe make it $15 million. That's hockey talk, boys, in the back. Say they need a center? I don't know. That's the cap world. That's why I'm not a GM. Maybe make it 15. That's hockey talk, boys, in the back. Say they need a center. Oh, yeah. When you lose your top two in the offseason, you know, Crecce and Bergeron.

But I would agree with them. Well, that's what I say. You need to make team better. That's hockey talk. Every team, I'm sure, would love to add a top two centerman to their team. I've been working on my face-offs. I just want to let them know. I've been working on my face-offs. I just want to let them know.

I've been working on my face-offs. What is the timing on that? It's the N-H-L. Yeah, that's what I do. That's not what they do in the game. That's what they should do. I agree. Because the way Don after the L is a real advantage.

It's a skill. And it's a perfect A-50-50 here. Boom. You can win that, too. You can out-execute the person you're going against in the... Boom, boom, boom. Like a thumb war. Yeah, you can out-execute.

So, Pat, at the end of every practice, so when I was playing in New Jersey, pretty much my whole career, at the end of practice, the coaches will pull the D coach, will pull the D aside, the wingers will get pulled aside,. The wingers will get pulled aside. And then the center will get pulled aside.

And they practice face-offs. And I'd always jump in there to try to take some face-offs as a D-man. It's such an art. Like, you want to talk about pressure. I mean, if you start with the puck, that's everything. So face-offs are huge. It's one of the most difficult things in hockey. I have such respect for guys like Crosby, Barkov, Bergeron

that are unbelievable in the face-off circle. I wish I played with one of those guys in my career. I'll tell you that. What is the rules? Because I've seen a little sumo wrestling. Micah Parsons won. Good work, Micah. I saw the sumo.

I think I saw a documentary on them. They're phenomenal athletes, and that is the next sport that should be tapped into, you know, offensive line stuff, even though being a sumo wrestler is like being a god over there. The way that thing starts is like the one, I forget which side, one of them has the hand, then the other hand is like the signifier of this thing starting, I think. Does hockey have the same thing? Because I always see people get kicked out they jump like how is it the home team has to be down first what is the the stick has to be down so in that circle in the circle the dot there's a there's a white slit and a white slit at the top and at the bottom

the four it's got to have the center has got to have his stick on that spot before the ref drops the puck. If you move your stick, the ref can throw you out to judgment call. So a lot of times you've got to hold before he drops that puck. You cannot move it. So if you watch right before, the players both are fully set, and then the puck gets dropped. Yeah, they're trying to get last, it seems like. It seems like they're trying to be the last one to put the stick down.

I don't know. Yeah, they want to be last to put the stick down because usually when the puck is dropped, it'll bounce, right? You either got to time it so you hit it as soon as it hits the ice, or you got to get it on the second bounce. So it's all schematics. It's all angles. And, like, these centerman guys, they're extremely technical, like, in the circle.

I love that. It's nuts. Yeah, because there was one end of the game. And the other team's end, I think it was icing or something. It was, like, seven, eight seconds left. They're down one. They have an extra person. It's, like, all riding on you winning the faceoff here.

And it feels like it's, I don't want to say luck, but it feels like there's a lot of luck potentially involved in there but you're saying no skill never mind well well actually quick example so edmonton vancouver game game six you saw when evander kane scored to make it 5-1 quick face-off play snapped it right back he's sitting right behind the center man it's in the back of the net. Face-offs are huge because you win the face-off, you can score within a second. That's why you want to win. You want to win every face-off. Face-off's a turnover. That's literally what it is.

You get the possession of the ball. They don't. That sucks for them. Great for you. I can't wait to see who is in the Western Conference final after tonight's game seven between the Cougars and the Oilers. Thank you for crushing for us. We really do appreciate it. All NHL playoffs here. Pat, any time for you. You guys know I love coming on.

And just be aware of Tatum, dude. I'm just telling you, that Euro step, it's crazy when he goes like this and then he drops it underneath. Just be aware next round. I'll be watching. Have you seen Halliburton? He does a Euro step from like foul line to three-point line. And then does a slow step.

Quick. I know a lot of people listening might say, PK's not a basketball guy, but I'm going to give you two cents right now on your boy Halliburton and your Pacers. Number one, love him as a player. Great young talent coming up. But I still got to see him do it in the fourth quarter.

Is he a guy that you completely trust him do it in the fourth quarter. Is he a guy that you completely trust right now late in the fourth quarter taking those shots? I'd see him pull up. I'd see him pull up from the parking lot. First of all, he's a point guard. Let's make sure we understand the role and the position.

He ain't scared of nothing. What are we even talking about? He's talking right in John Hey, what's that guy's name? He's talking right in John Chet. It's easy coming back. It's easy anticipating timeout calls by the Knicks when they're missing 90% of their roster after you hit a three-pointer. It's great. I want to see him do that against Boston.

Okay, we'll see if he can do it against Boston. And do you think the Knicks would have been able to do it against Boston if the Pacers can't? I doubt it. I think when he gets into that Celtic oven there in Boston that his goose is going to get cooked. That's what we're talking

about right now. Alright, A. Have a good one, pal. Love you guys. Thanks, Pat. P.K. Subban. P.K. What a human. He Subban. Yeah, PK. What a human. He knows ball.

He does. He does. Speaking of ball, let's talk about our particular ball. I don't know if you saw Tom Brady met Drake May over the weekend at the rookie premiere. You know, the NFL and the NFLPA have this big rookie premiere where selected rookies don't have to be top ten rookies, just selected rookies for teams. Come out to Los Angeles, seemingly, and they put on a uniform. They take some photos. They dap each other up.

They congratulate each other. They catch up with some old friends. And then a select few of the select few get a chance to go have brunch with Tom Brady, Michael Rubin, and Jay-Z. That's pretty cool. Pretty cool. That's pretty cool. That is pretty cool.

Big storylines out of it. First fanatics is Sue and Marvin Harrison Jr. That's the cool. That is pretty cool. Big storylines out of it. First, Fanatics is suing Marvin Harrison Jr. That's the guy in the middle there. Yep, big time. Yeah, Michael Rubin is suing him. Our name is actually mentioned in it because Marvin Harrison Jr. reposted what we said, which was from our source about the situation. That is going one step further.

Once again, like I say, let's figure it out. Hey, let's figure this one out, team. Let's figure it out. Harrison Jr. did accept Fanatics's offer, says Michael Rubin, even though he reposted something in an attempt to mislead the public from the Pat Matthews show, so no lawsuit, of course. We just did journalism. We just did journalism.

That's right. Once again, we hope they figure that whole thing out. But select rookies got a chance to go sit down and have, you know, they say, would you rather have $500,000 or would you rather have a meal with jay-z or would you rather have a million dollars or eat with tom brady jay-z and michael rubin and these guys are getting chances to get both these guys are getting big time signing bonuses and they're also getting a chance to learn game uh from these guys the photo of tom brady Brady and Drake May had the entire world saying, like father, like son. Conman, I assume

when you saw this photo on Instagram, you, I assume, behaved in a very rational manner. I just hope you guys have enjoyed the Patriots not being good at football. I hope you've enjoyed the Patriots not being who the Patriots have been for the last 25 years. You look at that photo right there. Sure, the one of him and Brady.

Yeah. I mean, they look like the spitting image of each other first of all minus some other things if you know what i'm talking about the chins but again the other photo the one on the left drake may is the biggest son of a bitch in this photo by a lot he's furthest away furthest away he's standing in the very very very back and he is towering over everybody i mean i couldn't be more happy if i'm bo nicks i'm never standing next to drake may ever again for the rest of my life because of the way that drake made him look but i mean you can't not look at that and say like yeah this guy's not gonna win a super bowl he's he's gonna win a super bowl look at the knowledge that he gained from tom Brady. Now, the rest of them, I don't know. But from

Brady, about New England, probably where to go. Hey, where to eat in Boston. Hey, this is where they have the best prep for all the things that you need. So yeah, as a Patriots fan, I saw that and I was immediately sick to midnight. Didn't even care about the Bruins' loss after seeing that photo. As a show that is currently

referenced in a lawsuit from the company, we are not going to run the video from the company sure okay but tom brady did give a speech it feels like yeah we'll learn we were you know that's right we've been through we've been down this whole road a couple times not before but tom brady's messaging about you know hey big team little me you know it's not good for me it's good for us is uh the entire conversation feels like that's really his like life motto that he wants this next generation to know. He's been preaching this for a long time, and I think it's because the more you learn about Tom, the more you learn, like, yep, hard coaching, took care of his guys,

and he did 20-plus years in a locker room. That guy loves the team, I think, from the video that I watched there. Yeah, remember last year when C.J CJ Stroud and the boys were all there and they had this whole get-together with Ruben and Brady and everything, and it sounds like they actually got some beneficial stuff, but you know, when an old guy comes back, and I'm not calling Tom old, but for these guys, yeah, he's played forever, but they know he's very relevant to them.

When someone wants to preach to you and tell you what you should do, the majority of athletes will tune that out, but when it's a guy like Tom Brady, they're much more apt to open their ears and actually listen to somebody. So I think Tom's one of the few guys that can get the point across. What are you talking about? That rookie symposium? That was great. That was awesome. People just

yelling at you and telling you how terrible you are the whole time and you don't know what you're doing and you're a terrible professional. That's what they like to do to you. I'm like, alright, yeah, some people might be, but not everybody. Yeah, I think this is a much better use of uh rookies time than this symposium but i mean i might be wrong the symposium might be a little bit different symposium big we covered our ass we told everything sure okay it has to happen we very much understand that but i don't think i've ever met a person that's gone through that thing and said yeah i love that that was a

good thing right i should have listened more. I ended up getting arrested. Public intoxication. Less than two years after that, I probably should have listened, but the way they were telling me how disrespectful I was in the locker room already. I was like, you got the wrong guy. Did they tell you not to get arrested? A few times. Somewhere in there.

Most of it, hey, when you walk into a building, whatever happens in that building, your name is going to be the headline. That's the thing you need to know. You need to have, you know, good people around you, smart people around you. And obviously these guys that were there that were invited, they're on a different level, you know, and they're coming in with money and they're coming in with agents and NIL and all those different things. Tom Brady's message I know was, you know, hey, this is kind of still the only place in that locker room

where you still be one of the guys and it's about the team. And your accolades, your deals, all that stuff will come with it. I think it was dope for them, to you guys' point. Dope sitting and listening to Jay-Z. Obviously not an athlete, but has done great things on the business side of things. I'm sure Ruben as well. That's two billionaires there? Two billionaires.

They're probably going to be three, so good knowledge there. Yeah, I would like to – wait, you think they ate some of that weird shit? Like the players? Trampled eggs and bacon? Very weird. You think there was even an option at this brunch for French toast? No way. Oh, no.

I mean, you probably didn't. Even if they had signs telling you what the food was, you still probably didn't know what it was. Oh, you think it's that type of menu? Oh, draw. It's like right here in front of you, too, listed out. This is going to be your first course i've never heard of any of this yeah brady's not when we get to the fourth course

i think i know that word there fro fro what is it i've been in four of those events four of them are they fun oh buddy i am not the person that's supposed to be there what yeah they're all pretty. They just tell you what you're eating and you don't know what it is and they come and... Yeah, bring your own food. Yes, you do. Because the size of this thing... Literally, this is... This is what you're getting. This is what you're getting right here.

Congratulations. We brought you a cookie cake to celebrate your birthday. And it is actually this. That is actually what it is. This is made of the finest dough i don't think so give me 55 of them you eat yours yeah yeah that's what you're doing you're looking around to see who's not eating the food hey oh yeah don't give that back no i'll take it it's the only thing that's been good the whole fucking day of course everybody's eating this thing you

got any extras no of course geez let's talk about, we're going to, I believe, be joined here in a matter of moments, hopefully. Maybe not. By a member of the team that had a simulcast for the PGA Championship. No laying up. I don't know if you saw this. It was on ESPN2 during the PGA Championship. I thought it was a cool concept. Obviously, we've been a part of simulcast.

Simulcast are not necessarily the easiest thing to do and be entertaining and be good. I think they did a fantastic job. I like the PGA Championship and ESPN are expanding the ways. I was able to watch Scotty Scheffler's round. Just him. Just him with Harmon and I forget who else. Was it Hobbs? Nope.

Windham, right? Yes. Windham, right? Yes, Windham Clark. Yeah, they were in there. And this is just following the morning in which he got arrested and had an orange jumpsuit on already for the mugshot. I got arrested for public intoxication. They did not put an orange jumpsuit on me. I was in the back of a paddy wagon, of course.

And I got the whole treatment, the processing, sitting in the thing. They put this orange jumpsuit on immediately. Hey, welcome to jail. Out of it. In this. Sweet V-neck. Why couldn't you get his whole head in the frame? Every picture I've seen, they've cut the top of his head.

Yeah. I saw one. I saw one that had the full one. Okay, so there is a full one. I'd be worried about them, whoever's taking their picture. Hey, we can't even get their full head in the picture? So, first, that's why I thought it was fake, too. Like, Golf Digest was the one that tweeted it and i actually after learning of the whole situation because obviously we were off and it was like the topic

of conversation for everywhere it was on the morning uh national news i mean it was yeah it was absolutely everywhere when that photo hits the internet i think to myself i can't be real because the head was dropped off i assume what happened happened here, and I might be wrong, but it's like somebody in the jail has access to that and takes a screenshot of the official release. Because how quickly it was up. How quickly he

was in the orange jumpsuit. That was like mind blowing. That was fake. Me too. Should have played that day. Oh man. If he would have wore like a Ricky Fowler Puma. you know, like a Ricky Fowler Puma orange, that would have been awesome. That would have been enjoyable. But instead, we thought that was going to be the story that Scotty Scheffler was going

to use his form of the Mamba mentality, his form of locking out the noise. What's the noise? Getting locked up. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Jail time. Actually, we go on to say

they did some stretching in a jail cell this morning. That was a first for me. A first for me. Once I kind of started knowing things were going to go a certain way, I started lubricating myself up.

The other people that were in the jail obviously had some situations. You know, there was a kid next to me that was in a drunk tank and he actually got arrested at the golf tournament

the night before and he was actually following my group the whole time. He got so intoxicated following me yesterday that he got arrested in the drunk tank, and then he woke up next to me. You should have seen him. That kid lost his shit.

He still thinks he's on LSD, but instead I told him, no, no, this is Scotty Scheffler. Then I did some calf raises, some hamstrings, some twisties, and that guy actually helped me out. So I'd like to give him a shout-out. And then I would go on to shoot five under immediately afterwards. So I thought that was going to be the story.

It had to be. That was going to be the story. I think he started watching these guys golf. Everything that we were told to by the junkyard dog. Yeah. DB. DB. From the tour junkies. Now, who he picked to win, completely wrong.

Yes. Okay, completely wrong. DeChambeau, we talked about him a little bit because he could hit it far. But these dudes were attacking the green. I mean, it was fun to watch. Putts were falling. Anytime you're near 21, under 20, under for the winner, obviously there's a lot of action.

But Hovland got hot. Rory had a time where he was supposed to go. DeChambeau obviously was going to win that thing. If that goes to extra playoff holes, I think everybody's thinking and then Xander Shoffley somehow with more Kawa in his group having a little bit of a day, a little bit of a struggle. Can't make a birdie. Can't do it. Can't do it, but he's still in it

hanging in there. Rory McIlroy posted. It's like Xander for his first major win had to play great golf, and it was entertaining all around him. Feels like the major lived up to the hype, and that's on 18 there. Yeah, you have to make it. He could have easily sculled that right into the wall. Like, that one could have gone very, very poorly.

What a win for this dude for his first major, though. He had to be an absolute dog, and he was on a Sunday, knowing that he had to be. And that was kind of the conversation. I assume he felt as if the weight of the world was lifted off his shoulders when that ball went around and around and inevitably fell down and he's a major champion I mean so I watched like the majority of this tournament especially on Sunday Xander I was nervous for Xander the whole time because I'm thinking like all right I know what what this guy has to be going through in

his brain I couldn't think going up that 18th when he's teeing off and then everything about it and the fact that he actually gets a birdie to win that thing when everything is on the line. He knows too, like, hey, if I miss this and we go into extra holes against Bryson, like, I do not have the momentum. That is for sure. Yeah, this changes a kid's whole life from here on out. His legacy forever.

Major champion. Xander. Congratulations. And to your point about knowing what he's thinking, I think that's because the American Century Championship that I have gone to play in a couple times, you've played in, I think, since it literally started back in 1985. But there was like a couple short putts.

And I'm thinking in my head what I would be telling myself. Don't let this be the fucking one. You know? It's a lot harder than it looks. Those short ones are a lot tougher than they look when something matters too yeah because when you're lined up over top of it it's like you can't miss this one you know and then you almost then you're re the one that he made the way it was like hey this is a putt that professionals make a lot okay but this is also a distance where you could definitely like that was the worst distance i think you potentially could have had. Well then if he misses that putt

like the way like if it lips out then like now we're talking like okay. Now like I got a four footer per par and if I miss this I lose like there is no you know you go from like okay I can win with this putt to I should have made this putt and now it's like okay now I can really choke.

Small little putter head. Yeah. Small little putter head because I. Small little putter head. Because I was thinking to myself, there's not a lot of room for error there. This guy. The putter head's about the same size as the ball. Because everything we just laid out there is feasible in golf, and we've seen it before. And it was the kind of conversation about him by some circles in the golf world. So every single shot, you're right.

That's why it was so exhilarating, I think, because we're all wondering, is he going to collapse? Is he going to collapse? And he didn't. It was good golf week. Oh, yeah. Love, love, love that part five to finish, too. Yes.

I think it was that same old Bryson Eagle on the trip out on Saturday. On Saturday day before, yeah, it was great. Just great. We say it all the time. It's great seeing all the guys. That little court on Saturday and Sunday, that was just a phenomenal finish. I'll say it. Uh-oh.

He doesn't look happy out there. He's throwing clubs. Rom needs to give all the money back, and he needs to go back to the PGA Tour. He's talking about how he still feels like a member of the PGA Tour. He doesn't seem happy. I just want the guy to be happy. He needs to give all the money back and just go back to the PGA Tour because we can't be missing cuts if you're John Rom.

We need to have him at the top of the leaderboard. Let's not be giving back all the life-changing money either. No, you don't have to give all the money back and just go back to the PGA Tour because we can't be missing cuts if you're John Rahm. We need to have him at the top and leader. Let's not be giving back all the life-changing money either. No, you don't have to give it all back. Scotty's won like $30 million this year. Rahm would be fine probably with that a year. No, and also, he's currently in the celebration stage of that. It doesn't seem like it. A couple of these guys, I think, have gone through this,

and then they're like, all right, we've got to get back in. DJ's really in celebration. He doesn't even cry. He's celebrating. He's well celebrating. He's well celebrating. And that's why we love him. He certainly is.

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Goodbye. Now to Red Honest Grace. Yep. Bam. Fresh off a four-day, AJ. Fresh off a four-day. Speaking. Fresh off a four-day. Speaking of baseball. It's like riding a bike. Yeah, it is. It is kind of like riding a bike, and then I'll forget how to ride a bike tomorrow whenever I inevitably miss it, but nonetheless,

how about baseball? Whenever you're talking about hitting something right on the screws there, as the hard-out, professional journalism shit takes place there. Baseball had a weekend, didn't it? Paul Skeen's alright. He's a decent player, isn't he? Not too shabby. How about the big gas station?

Not the gas station the guy had his penis out in. I'm talking the gas station in which he is a man. That guy's a dog. Couple don'ts. I'm talking about the big gas station. The man that got a baseball and the only thing

coming out of it. The gas station. The man that got a baseball and the only thing coming out of it. The one thing up his rectum. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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strikeouts the beginning game set a record for the pittsburgh pirates congratulations to the pirates guy it's uh second most behind uh obviously a couple studs to graham being one of them uh for the longest run by a rookie in mlb history. Skeen's had a 6.75 ERA after his first game because he left two ducks on a paw and then they would inevitably come home after he gets pulled after four innings. This time, he had a no-hitter going. Could have had a damn perfect game.

Ty, this is the guy. We got the guy. He's unbelievable. I was telling Diggs, I get it because this is only his second start. I wish they would have let him throw 180 pitches because this is kind of what we were I wish they would have let him throw 180 pitches. Because this is kind of what we were talking about. This is why he is never going to strike out 20 guys in the game. Which would cost us $1 million. Exactly.

Couldn't find the game on TV. Couldn't fucking watch it. But all he would get is updates. Yeah, amen. All he would get was updates. These guys go, hey, hold down. We got eight. Holy shit.

How many is it? Nine. How many innings into this thing is your five i'm like what this dude is just setting them up and knocking them down this dude is a beast i thought he was gonna get the record but to your point yeah just still so young you can't just burn his arm out but he's also i mean when you look at his stuff like he's the guy who as we get into the warmer months like he will be you know you send him out there for eight innings like he's still going to be throwing 100 101 late in the games like he's only going to

get better which is crazy when in your second start you're throwing six innings of no hit ball with 11ks like it just i mean it's like it's easy to be hyperbolic about something like this but this this guy's fucking amazing he is yeah. Yeah, boys are back. Wow. Boys were buzzing. You had Jared Jones go on Friday, and he had an unbelievable performance again, and then Skeen's going on Saturday. Unbelievable. Yeah, Foxy texted me and said how come he was taken out of the game with 100 pitches.

You know, we want this guy for World Series runs, okay? It's not about game two. Of course. I agree. It's about the future of Paul Skeen. But you know that's never going to happen. So let's get a no-hitter. Have you seen fucking Paul Skeen's pitch, pal?

You know the Hondo boys? Hey, I love them. What do you mean it's never going to happen? The Lions should have been in the Super Bowl this year. That wasn't supposed to happen. That's fair. So you guys are trading the Pirates for the Penguins. You're transferring the terrible team to the Penguins and you're taking the Pirates as your new Prince who was promised?

Listen, it would have been nice if growing up that the Pirates would have been good one time. Absolutely. I heard glory days back in the day when the Pirates were okay. And the only thing the Pirates were good for for most of my life was just going down to a game. Yeah. It's a nice ballpark. Jim Leland. Something to do in the middle of the day. Yeah, let's go down

there. Maybe catch a foul ball. Sure. With a pool cleaner. Yeah, a fish net. Fish net. If it didn't take a fish net, it would have been cool, too. Yeah, a pole skimmer, good idea. You're going to have to reinforce that net. Which the fishing net, not all fishing nets are good, either. We learned that in the parking lot

of, what's the color of the lot down there? I got a gold lot, probably. So I had a big, this is my biggest fishing net yet, and had to test it out, see if it would be good for baseball. Didn't have a baseball, obviously. So beer cans. Okay, sure. Full beer cans. Thought they were

similar weight. Just about. Similar weight, yeah. Turns out it didn't catch a single fucking one of those. But it holes. Right through the entire thing. You need But it holes. Oh, it went right through. Everywhere. Right through the entire thing. You need to have something like that, though.

And I assume in most stadiums nowadays, bullshit. You're probably not allowed to take just full-on fishing nets into stadiums anymore. But you need to have a glove, and you need to have your eye on the ball. Check out what happened to Liz here from the... Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. 110 mile an hour far off. Boat. Boatbushet. Bat. You from the... Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. 110 mile an hour fall off.

Bo... Bo-bichette. Bat. You know. Stop this, kid. Bo-bichette. Yes, it is. Nice.

She ate that thing. She did. And then the fucking Blue Jays just ghosted her. Didn't even... Didn't give her anything. That's Canada. Sorry. Get a fucking ice pack.

That's Canada. And that's why we're rooting for an American team to win the Stanley Cup. Exactly. Because of how the Toronto Blue Jays treat you. Yeah, that's not right. That's right. That's not right. We stand together.

At least give her a fucking signed bat by Boba Shett or something like that. I'm sure they will. They got nothing but – Well, now they're going to because she signed an ice pack. I'm growing another fucking head over my eye. Did she keep the ball? No, she didn't get any. No, she got a ball.

It actually – All right. Give her a fake ball like Shohei did. Speaking of baseball, we hope Liz is okay. We feel like the Blue Jays will figure it out. Good luck. They better. How did she get hit?

Where's the net? That's a good question. Where's the net? She's probably further up on either the first or third base side. Oh, you're thinking pool? Oh, yeah. A round net? Yeah, for sure.

That's pretty. Yeah, I think they usually end maybe like a quarter way up the dugout so to be clear i'm not like the most pumped about those nets being where they are it makes sense they're not great it does make sense because like foul ball like that used to be a part of it you got to keep your eyes on the ball you got to watch the game you're active you're in the you're in the she watch did she watch that right into her face or did she take her by surprise 110 is tough that that that takes out anybody yeah yeah yeah pretty skilled yeah could you imagine fishing that right and pull trying to hold it for your face yeah so i'm i wanted to i did not know people could still get hit like this since they can

let's make the next better okay we don't need this. She was wearing her hat right. It would have blocked it. She couldn't wear her hat because the ball on her forehead. Yeah. And she did her hair for the game. I got attacked for wearing my hat backwards. By who? Coward? Some people on the internet. They said it looks bad. At the Pacers? Yeah, I did. Oh, no.

You better not do it anymore. You can't own a basketball team if you wear your hat backwards. Well, the issue, Ryan Smith, has he updated his profile photo? Yes, he finally did. He doesn't look like an absolute prick now. In a good way. He looked like a prick. He looked like an asshole.

Sorry. Same difference. He didn't look like an asshole. He looked like a weirdo. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. Dipshit. Weirdo.

Freak. Like me. Much better. He's not. He's not. We're joking. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. This dude's like an American drink story. This dude. How cool. Much better. He's not. He's not. We're joking. He's a great guy. He's a great guy. This dude dropped out of

high school, owns a team in the NBA and the NHL, and he can look like that. And that's how cool he normally looks. In the photo, he chose to have his twirl but made no sense. F1 mark. Hairline like Fox Body. He did have a hairline like Fox Body. Come on. That's not true.

Fox Body gets the strings. Fox Body's got a nice comb over. Fox Body's a dog. Fox Body is a dog. Anyways, Ryan, we appreciate you. Ryan, I assume the survey for the new team ownership at the NHL is going good because Qualtrics will handle it. Joining us now is a man who was a part of a simulcast for the PGA Championship this weekend.

Part of the No Laying Up podcast. Ladies and gentlemen, Sully. Yeah, Sully. What's up, fellas? How we doing? I should have been more clear on the Eastern Times. That's on me, buddy. That's on me.

That is 100% on me. I'm in the Central Time Zone today, and I'm never in the Central Time Zone. And my mom's texting me like, why aren't you on TV yet? You told me you would be. And I was like, oh, I better run upstairs and get on here. Hey, real quick. Central Time Zone, good one, though. We're in the Eastern Time Zone, but the Central Time Zone,

we've all kind of voted on, I think. And we're kind of thinking that it's maybe the best one. Is that how you feel after a weekend down there? I used to live in Chicago. That was the best. Games kind of get started a little bit earlier. Get into your late 30s, man. It's hard staying up for some of these

late night sporting events. I never thought I'd be the guy that says that, but late 30s, they'll get you pretty quick. Amen. Yeah, we're all old. We're all getting there, but we'll catch up in the morning. We'll catch up in the morning. Speaking of catching up in the morning, here we go. Okay, so you guys are simulcasting

the PGA Championship. Scotty Scheffler is in jail the morning of Friday of a major championship. As he's outside of the golf course, obviously there's a misunderstanding with the police. Everybody's thinking that all charges are going to be dropped. We all assume that is the case. But, hey, we have no idea what is going to end up happening. And, you know, whenever humans and potential, I'm not going to say it. Don't say it.

You can say it. Just say it. We're all thinking it. It's part of it. Egos get involved. And I'm not saying to say it. Don't say it. You can say it. Just for all thinking, it's part of it. Egos get involved. And I'm not saying it's everybody has this particular issue in any profession at all. But humans have made decisions before that aren't stupid. But we're all assuming that all these charges are going to get dropped. But what a wild start to a Friday for Scottie Scheffler and for the major as a whole.

What are you guys thinking as this is all taking place, breaking down what you're going to say, how you're going to handle it? And what is the golf world saying about all of this right now? You're not expecting breaking news when you wake up on, like, a Friday morning. Hey, real quick, real quick. This cop says he's going to jail and there ain't shit you can do about it. That is literally the quote right there. And then Jeff Darlington goes, I'm media. He goes, oh, okay, all right.

Did not care. This guy, I bet this guy card game awesome. Yeah. Right here. Just would like to let that be known. In this oh, okay. All right. Did not care. This guy, I bet this guy card game awesome. Yeah. Right here. Just would like to let that be known. In this scene, however. But the whole situation, yeah, this whole situation, wild. And you're right.

I'm sorry. Couldn't even expect that. Oh, good. I mean, I woke up and, you know, I'm taking care of dad duties in the morning. And I had to run to my wife. I was like, all right, I need some help here. I'm about to tell you something. It's golf related.

I'm going to tell you something that's going to shock you and you're not going to believe what I have to say, but Scotty Scheffler's in jail right now and I've got to get to work like immediately. Right. And if you'd have given me a draft of like, Hey, there's 156 guys in this field. Like, Hey, somebody is in the slammer right now. Somebody is like literally not going to maybe make their tee time. I might've gotten to 150 in that draft before I would have taken Scotty Scheffler being the one that this would happen to. So it honestly took like 10, 15 minutes to understand exactly what was happening and how shocking it was. And it was kind of also amazing just to see.

I mean, I'm in my own little niche golf world. Like not all golf stories expand out the way this one did. I mean, this made just beyond sports news. This was in mainstream news cycles Friday morning of the PGA Championship. And, you know, I mean, he went out and shot a 66 afterward, but, you know, he was kind of running on adrenaline and we all said it Friday night. It was like, tomorrow's the day, man. I mean, after, you know, kind of getting a little bit of time for it to sink in, what happened? I mean, he was hit with a felony charge. I don't know if that's the right nomenclature to be using, but I mean,

it's pretty serious charges that were out there against him. Like, you get a chance to sleep on it and kind of download everything from that day. And it clearly affected him Saturday. He did his best not to make excuses about it. But, I mean, I think we look back at this championship. He's had one of the most incredible starts to a season ever. There was a legitimate chance that he could win the Grand Slam this year. Plus, he won the Players' Championship this year.

It's a true shocker that this happened. And it would have taken a massive weekend for him to you know match xander shoffley's 21 under par but it was possible and yeah it threw a huge huge wrench in this weekend's pga championship yeah and through what three or four holes he bogeyed double whatever it was on saturday which kind of holds him back for sunday which we're all incredibly bummed out about. But when you think about him saying in the press conference afterwards, he was like, I don't want to talk about the situation, I just want to talk about golf.

And then every time they asked about the situation, he gave a little bit more. He gave a little bit more, gave a little bit more. And then he talked about, yeah, I actually started stretching in the jail cell, so that's a first, obviously, to get ready to play today. I would have thought Friday, you said that on Friday you guys thought Saturday was going to be the day where he kind of lets down because of the adrenaline dump and all that type of thing.

I just feel like he's a robot. I just feel like he's a machine. That is literally how I view Scottie Scheffler. So when he gets that bogey and then a double bogey, it's like, is this guy broken all of a sudden? And then immediately comes back on Sunday and shoots a six under or whatever. It's like we should still look for Scottie Scheffler to maintain his dominance as we continue this season here, right? Well, again, another wrinkle just thrown into his life is he and his wife just had their first child last week. You know, so that was kind of the storyline coming into it.

You know, he's sleeping in the hospital chair last week. Is he going to be prepared for this championship? How much practice time has he gotten? This is obviously a huge life change. We thought that was going to be the hardest thing for him to overcome. So that's still, you know, kind of a story going on in his life. You know, how is newfound fatherhood going to affect your play into the rest of the season?

But I would expect, I mean, like we said, we saw a blip in the radar on Saturday. It's literally his first over par round of the season. Like, it's absolutely incredible what he's produced so far. He has the same amount of days. This was a tweet that was going around from Kyle Porter. Same amount of days in jail as he has over par rounds in 2024. People get carried away when people say this in the golf world.

And if you listen carefully, he's the best player we've seen since Tiger. Tiger that's not comparing him to Tiger it's just like since Tiger did what he did Scottie's been the best to come along since then right and it's been uh a really lengthy sustained era of really really good golf it's hard you can't really call it dominance because kind of the extra level winning has only hit this season but he's figured out his putting he won his second major championship uh now the question is just going to be, weirdly enough, he has not won in a calendar year past the month of April. All of his wins in his career so far have come between the months of February and April.

I don't have any rationale or reasoning as to why that might be, but that's an interesting kind of storyline as we get into the final two major championships of the season. Yeah, as you get worn out, he just can't close on Sundays whenever it's late in the season. We shall see. He's top five in everything, even whenever he's not. He's top three whenever he's not.

He is. And they were talking about him being a – I believe A.J. Hawk said, this guy's a wet blanket at the beginning of this entire thing. You know what you – that's what you said. I don't think I said – I think I always said he's too good of a guy. He seems like too good of a human. Too nice of a – oh, I'm sorry. That don't think I said. I think I already said he's too good of a guy. He seems like too good of a human. Too nice.

Oh, I'm sorry. That was probably. I forget. Somebody. I've called other people wet blankets. Yeah, I have called them. A thousand percent that was me. But then he won the Masters and he was so good at golf that I put that away.

He's so good at golf. He's entertaining. And his beard is good. Yeah. The beard helps. He doesn't need to talk. Like, even though his press conference was entertaining after he goes to jail. For sure. He did a good press conference after he went to jail.

He thanked the cops. Super smart. We're in the middle of a situation here. The way he handled that. And then also, I thought I did everything I was told to do. And then, you know, I'm stretching out of jail. Got a cop diving on top of my hood. And obviously, we appreciate officers a lot and cops and everything like that.

Like, every day, you potentially don't come home. Like, very appreciative. But there is some situations, and obviously the world has seen them, where some cops just potentially, not all cops, but some cops act like assholes. You know, sometimes because they have a little bit of power. I'm not saying that this is the particular situation, but we can't see it because there's no body cam footage exactly you know so so we're not able to really see it but we have jeff darlington's thing where jeff darlington was literally sitting right there and he seemingly says that there was a lot of confusion because the devastating accident that happened down the road it was raining and dark you would just think there

be a little bit of self you know awareness that's like, yeah, this guy maybe is allowed to go somewhere. It's all wild. It's a wild thing. And then for Scottie to be able to handle it is just like even more reaffirmed to me, this guy's the one. Like in between the years, this guy is the one. And I'm very thankful that he's in the middle of his run. Now, AJ has a question for you about the PGA Championship, Solly.

So Valhalla, this course, and Xander wins at 21-under, and I guess the golf marks slash purists, sometimes they get upset when people score too well, right? It seems like that seems to be going on. Oh, Valhalla doesn't have any bite. You know, the weather didn't pick up or whatever. What made this course, I guess, play so easy for these guys? And will we see this again?

Will we see someone go 21-under in a major again? I think, you know, if you want me to put my golf purist hat on, I would say it's not as much about the scoring as it is the specific test of the golf course. A lot of golf nerds like myself love is you get a chance with the U.S. Open and the PGA Championship every year to rotate to an interesting venue that we don't see every year on the PGA Tour,

and it's going to provide a specific kind of test with, with, which should hopefully, uh, ask a variety of questions, right? Ask you for a variety of different skills, different shots, different, uh, elements that you got to face that can come out at the end of four days. You can say like, Hey, this guy was the best at conquering the firm greens, the holes. You need to fade it holes. You need to draw at the downhill holes, the uphill holes, the end of the wind, the long ones, the short ones, the wedges, the long irons, you know, the delicate pitches, the bunker shots, all that kind of combining up into like, that was a complete examination and you were the best this week. And I think the critique here is Valhalla presented a lot of the same question on repeat. It looked a lot more like a PGA tour setup with, you know, a a lot of not just a lot of birdies. I don't think

as many people have a problem with birdies as much as there is the lack of downside risk of some of those shots. There was a lot of moments in that back nine even yesterday where Zander kind of wavered a little bit, specifically that 17th hole, drove into Fairway Bunker, missed it right of the green, but the up and down from there was very easy

that there wasn't that kind of risk reward element of it. It was pin your ears back, go as fast as you can. I spent all morning since I got the invite to come on here to try to come up with a comparison in football terms of what it would be like. I didn't come up with a very good one. It'd be like if you asked to identify the best NFL team just by, all right, everybody go play the Raiders,

and we're going to see how well you did up against them. Instead of going head-to-head against each other for a variety of matchups and chess pieces that are played against scheming offense and defense and all those things. That's kind of the best I could come up with to say it felt like an incomplete test. It just felt like, here's what you've got to do. Who's the best at going low? And major championships, the really, really good ones in my mind, are the ones that keep you on a knife's edge throughout the entire round right a mistake is going to be potentially very costly it's going to send you right back to the field but a well deserved drive and a well-deserved approach that's going to give you the exciting birdie that everyone

wants to see at home that's what felt like was lacking uh this past week and i know not everyone shares that viewpoint but that's that's kind but that's kind of where I sit on. Okay, so I appreciate the way you described that there, at least how my brain took it. Because you are competing against the golf course. Like, that is who you're

competing against is the golf course. Each hole should be its own game. Like, it should be its different team, is what you're saying. Like, hey, each hole

should be, through the season, we are trying to beat each hole. And a lot of teams had similarities. We had too many beat each hole. And a lot of the teams had similarities. We had too many similar teams here. When most majors, it's like, hey, each one is going to provide challenges that are going to fuck you up in different ways. Yeah, and especially the thing being like,

hey, if you execute this shot, here's what it's going to mean. It might mean you make birdie. But if you take on the risk and you don't execute it, what happened to Valhalla was, even if you hit a pretty poor shot into a green, you could make par relatively easily. Right. And so in a really good Augusta National Oak Hill last year at the PGA Championship, if you take on the risk and you don't execute the shot, you might make a bogey. Like that's where the excitement comes in for me.

If there could be all kinds of volatility in the leaderboard, you know, and there just is it's a it's a different test of who is the best player. This is a certain gear of every professional golfer has got a go mode. Everybody can take it low, and it's just a different question. That's not to say Zander doesn't deserve to win and that he's not a worthy champion. He beat everybody. It's a different question. Same course, same game, same rules.

He won. You deserve it. Good luck. Keep it going. Another guy that won the weekend. Ty has a question for you. Yeah, Sully, has anyone had a more improbable run to where they're at right now than Bryson DeChambeau, just in terms of like, basically, you know, he comes on and everyone kind of

hates him because he's quirky. He's a weirdo. He gains all the weight. He's doing the protein shakes. And then he goes to live and they put him on TV and he's like answering for the transgressions of Saudi Arabia. And it's kind of weird. Everyone still kind of hates him.

And then after, you know, like slowly people are, are kind of just back on board. The video comes out of him, you know, throwing his golf ball to the little kid and some jackass, you know, 35 year old grabs it and tries to run away. And Bryson kind of mother fucks him until he gets the ball back. And then obviously like his emotions and everyone kind of hoping for a playoff and now it's kind of to the point where i don't know and this is just for me personally like i kind of love bryson now and and want to see him do well and want to see him compete to win every single week do you think a lot of people feel that same way and uh or am i misreading this i i i would struggle to come up with somebody I could think of off top of my head that

I know that really, really likes Bryson overall, but isn't extremely entertained by what he does on the golf course, right? I don't want to absolve Bryson of past very serious kind of issues and reasons not to like him or, you know, reasons he hasn't come off very well in the past. We don't need to go through that whole list of things other than to say, like, all that kind of goes out the window when he is on a golf course. He is the one of the most entertaining, if not the most entertaining golfer currently in, in the game. It was like that when he was on the PGA tour, driving the ball, you know, 370 yards at times. And it's still that way when we see him back up in major championships. I, I love, he's always been willing to try to be

different. He's always willing to put himself out there, always willing to try different things that nobody else is trying. He put on all the weight, just decided to drive the ball at a level nobody has ever driven at in the past. He just has seemed to in past years, year and a half, two years, just become a lot more self-aware.

He used to wear the silly Ben Hogan-style hat that I think made him an easy target for people to make fun of him. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't one of those people. But he's got this gravitational force. If I'm there at a tournament, I want to go see what that guy is doing. And even if he's done a lot of things that have come off very unlikable in the past, I still find myself rooting for him. I'm rooting for him to climb leaderboards.

I'm rooting for him to be involved because you just don't know what's going to happen next. He just has this magnetism to him and he just seems like he's in a way better place. Live golf seems to have been a great thing for him. Playing less golf, doing more stuff on YouTube is something that he's really cited as being an important level of growth for him and being able to kind of reach fans in that way. And I'm weirdly happy for the guy that he's found success he's played great in major championships three of the last five he's finished i think in the top six and he's been extremely competitive in them and it's great to see because after a while i mean he was playing some really really incredible golf he started getting injured which was a predictable kind of fall off from the what he had taken on and was putting onto his body

that golfers don't tend to do because it's just really, really hard to maintain that level of weight and weight training. Yeah. It's, it was never going to be sustainable and his game took a hard dive and you never know if it's going to come back. If that's the case, right. When guys start having health issues,

almost everyone's career. If you watch a golfer that has had great success that all of a sudden starts to dip for some reason, an injury is almost always the turning point. Whether you bounce back from that is like your body's going to change post-injury, and now you've got to find a way to make your golf swing work in a post-injury world. That was no guarantee that it was going to come back. And I give him a ton of credit for recognizing, hey,

this whole weight thing is not going to work for sustainability for me. I'm going to dial that back, and I'm going to kind of get in the middle, find a middle place where I can be competitive, and he's done that. That's a really good Bryson impression. Yeah. He locks that fucker out. I've actually thought a couple of times, like he's doing it by science and numbers and all that type of stuff.

And you see him like judge, like, all right, I'm going to 35% back here and this whole thing. And then the way he putts is just like, so he has that long one. It's just like, that's a,

that is spot on, dude. I don't know if I could watch a lot of Bryson on Sunday. Didn't see him on Saturday as much as I think we all would have hoped for potentially from the broadcast coverage, but that might be because he's on a different league, an entirely different tour that you said has been good for him because he gets away, gets to do some other things,

major championship, he shows up, he's DeChambeau, the people love him, it's great to see him again. There's some other situations Tone has a question about. Yeah, as an outsider looking in just kind of this week, I heard Jon Rahm's comments this week about how he still feels like he's a PGA Tour member or however he

phrased that. And then he comes out this weekend and he just looks frustrated. This whole year he talks about how he still watches every PGA event and he's breaking down every PGA event. Any chance that John regrets his decision to potentially go to live? How do the people on tour take it? Because he just doesn't seem like the same guy.

He's not Jolly John. He's not Jolly John. He's not Jolly John. He's always been fiery, but he's a little mad now. Yeah, he seems bummed out is what Ted's saying. Yeah, dejected, John. It's a great question. You're asking me to project

here how Jon Rahm feels, which is challenging, but I'm happy to do that. He is one of the most competitive people I've come across in the game and the most fiery dude. I was really drawn to just his entire competitive nature, and I've always really enjoyed watching him play, and I root for him a lot.

His decision to leave just didn't line up with the things he himself had said in the past in terms of where the most talent was in the professional golf, what his style of tournament was that he liked to play. I mean, he has said things like, look, I think you should have to choose between Liv and the PGA Tour prior to him leaving for Liv. Now, granted, some things have changed since the framework agreement was announced, which looked like it was going to be a merger, but we still don't know what's actually going to happen with that.

Yeah, what the hell is going on? They're meeting down in the Bahamas? Don't ask me that one. Don't ask me that one. Nobody really knows what's actually going on with this, with the Tor and Piff merger and all that stuff. I won't ask you. All that's to say, I think he genuinely believed,

and maybe he's right, maybe he's wrong, that him leaving could kind of help snowball that, you know, the negotiations and get the golf world back together and say, all right, you know, that's, that was another, you know, kind of point in the negotiation for, for the live side to be able to bring people back to the table. I don't know. I think he genuinely, genuinely believed that. And I, I, my honest opinion on it is for somebody that was already very wealthy, was very well off. Getting a ton more money and sacrificing, even if it's sacrificing 1% of your natural competitive nature, had to be very unfulfilling. And that's what I see

when I look at John right now. I don't see somebody who looks very fulfilled with his decision, right? I don't know if it's hard to get however much money you got, $300 million, $400 million, $500 million. We don't know. It's hard to say. $650 million. He said he was already rich. Yeah, not wealthy. He was already rich, he said. We already rich you said wealthy 650 million right that's a different ball game i think but when you're making decisions strictly for that you're saying there's a chance there's a ripple effect yeah it is and you know are you fulfilled by this and do you feel like it i'd be hard pressed to sit here and say like he regrets going and when you have that much money in your bank account you knew what you were doing.

You knew what it was going to be worth to you, but I don't see the same passion. That doesn't mean it can't come back, but so far in major championships, as a golf fan, I feel a little bit cheated here. The only time we get all the best players together are four times a year now. He's given up two of them this year.

He's not been competitive in two of them this year, and that's just really disappointing for somebody who I still believe is, at minimum, one of the five best players in the world, maybe one of the three best players in the world, sometimes is the best player in the world. And we just haven't seen that to this point. I don't blame Liv for that to this point,

other than to say he just seems to have lost a little bit of his swagger, which is equally disappointing. Well, like you've mentioned with some others, maybe there's an injury or something that he's battling through right now, trying to figure out, you know, whenever you're lifting those bags of cash. Yeah. Come on, John. Yeah, that shit can get you.

But you're right. We like Brooks Koepka. Whenever I'm seeing him warm up for one of these majors, I'm like, hell yeah. Brooks Koepka's back. Like, it's fun to watch him golf and, you know, just keep it moving. And then you see DeSham Bro, it's like, yeah, this is – I like everything about this. And then Cam was starting toham Bro, it's like, yeah, this is, I like everything about this.

And then Cam was starting to get famous, the great putter with the long hair from Australia. Tom Smith. He was starting to get real popular. He was starting to read every green perfectly. That was his thing. And then he's back. It is cool to see these guys. It's like, oh, it's great to see you guys on my TV again.

Normally you spend the weekends watching golf in the background with the baby and the wife. It's still a great time, don't get me wrong. There's one particular person, though, on my TV again because I normally spend the weekends watching golf in the background with the baby and the wife. It's still a great time. Don't get me wrong. There's one particular person, though, who's been a part of this golf for a while now. Connor has a question for you, Sully. Sully, look, I don't know how everyone up here feels, but I personally, my favorite

story since Tiger, you mentioned Scotty, mine has easily been blocky. And to be completely honest, after the first couple rounds, yes, I do. And please do not put your thoughts onto me. After that first round, it was tough, honestly, as a spectator who, one, bet on Blocky to win and, two, kind of thought that he was going to make this run again. But what's the expectation here for myself? Hey, look, if you can make a million bucks betting, you might as well try.

What's my expectation be with Blocky going forward, Sully? And also, is this kind of glorious run over now? Or what do we think? Look, I've never been asked to project a 46, 47 year old club pro the rest of their career. I don't think I've ever had to do that.

Welcome to journalism, pal. That's the Blocky difference. Welcome to journalism. Look, I don't know if I'm buying at that age. Look, he is taking some advice. There was a great report from Golf Digest this past week from Joel Beal. You know, he's saying, look, I was FaceTiming with DJ Khaled, and DJ Khaled told me, this is our year, Blocky.

Don't say no to anything. And he took that very literally. He's been quite overexposed on a lot of fronts. I'll say. DJ Khaled told him to take every gig offered. Go move, DJ. Thank you, DJ Khaled. Love you, DJ.

It was pretty miraculous what happened at Oak Hill last year, right? And projecting anything else to ever come about like that ever again for Block would kind of diminish the ridiculous nature if it was a club pro finishing in the top 15 of a major championship. That was a really, really difficult major championship on the opposite end of kind of what we saw at Valhalla last year. Like, O'Kill

was really tough golf, really tough golf, and he managed to make that last for four days. It's easy to do one day, easy to do two days, but make it last for four days was pretty miraculous. But look, this is not financial advice. This is not betting advice. I just don't know if my nuggies would be going towards Michael Block. He's going to be playing this coming week at the Charles Schwab Challenge at Colonial.

How long is that course? Is that a short course? Is that a short part? It is a shorter course. It is a shorter course. Block is back. Block is back. We got short track?

We got short track racing for Blocky this weekend? Top 20. Wait a minute. He qualified for the U.S. Open too, right? Will he qualify for the Open? the U.S. Open too, right? Will he qualify for the Open? The U.S. Open? I don't know if he's playing a U.S. Open qualifier. I think he probably would have had to go to the local.

He wins this next tournament he's in, right? He's in? No. If he wins, he's in, right? Give him the card. Just invite him back so he can embarrass himself at the U.S. Open. See? This is what we're dealing with.

This is the problem, Saul. You've got haters everywhere. He played well, J2. That's cold-blooded. That's what happens whenever you just take every gig. It's not Blocky's fault. Oh, yeah, Blocky's great. What did he finish again at Dead Last?

Oh, come on, man. He did win P.J. Khaled's tournament. Well, we got to see him all weekend because of those fucking horrendous commercials that Sully's talking about. I saw that about 8,000 times on Saturday and Sunday. So Blocky was there for the weekend. No, we appreciate it. Michael Block, congratulations. I will let you know. Just the opinions of Ty

do not reflect that. Just like the reminder at the beginning. Yes, exactly. We love you, Blocky. And I appreciate what you and DJ Khaled did. There was a lot of Michael Block, though. And there's a lot of good golf happening. I think a lot of people were asking some questions about, like, okay, here we go.

But I'd like to say, after meeting Michael Block at ESPYs, good dude. Guy you'd love to have a drink with. I said that from the get-go. I love Blocky the human being. Blocky the golfer, I'm just kind of done with. He had a whole one. He did, yeah. Let's talk about the coverage. You just chatted about the coverage a little bit.

D-Bot's got a question for you. Course record, too. That's a respect. Yeah, he shot a fucking 87 on Thursday. Course record, my ass. Weird how that can happen. The golfer. Guys.

The golfer. The golfer. The golfer. Whatever, the guy, the golfer. I'm done with fucking Blocky. I never want to hear his name again. That's bullshit. You guys were on a lot, right?

A lot of time. Yeah, we were on eight hours this week. That was a long time. Plus, we do our show every night. I know how you guys do it now, doing however many hours a week of TV you guys do. But it was a lot of talking about the same golf and the same sport for that much time. But it was fun, man. It was really fun.

People seemed to be really into it. We got a lot of great feedback from it, and we hope to continue it on. But I give a lot of shout-out to everyone that put some trust into us and just let us kind of do our thing and if you want the main broadcast it's over there on espn like you don't you know we're not trying to replace that we're doing our own thing don't worry about those people those people those are the dumbest you can't take them seriously because right across the bottom it actually says main broadcast on espn and you know we have to deal with that people hate us why is this guy yelling in my ear about this game? Why do they got cowboy hats on? Why do they got cowboy hats on for us?

There's Fowler and Herbie are very good. You should go do that one. We just got a chance to walk on the Rose Bowl field. How many more of these do you have? Do you know how many more you have? We're hoping to do it next year for the PGA, but ESPN only covers the first two majors. Augusta, the Masters is a little bit different hurdle to clear to get a telecast where you can go say whatever you want on. We're hoping to continue to do it for the PGA. Everybody's been so easy to work with.

You know how this is, though. Everything's got to line up great. If somebody wants us to come do it and tells you how to do it, it's just not going to work. It's got to be like this or we're not going to want to do it because it's just it's kind of the only way we can picture doing it. Congrats. You've earned it, pal. No laying up podcast host, ladies and gentlemen, co-founder. Thank you, buddy. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Just talking about golf. It's a great weekend. It's a big deal. It's a big deal on ESPN2 to have a watch along for a major like that.

Yeah. Yeah, I saw it. We're in a saw it. We're in a good spot for watching sports, that's it. Yeah, well, if you're watching people watch sports, yeah. That's what every time we do a time- I guess that's where we are. Especially with golf. A lot of new viewers probably prefer that, especially if they listen to the pod already or follow the guys and know the characters and the personalities,

they would definitely much prefer to watch it that way. Yeah, you dive a little deeper on things, as opposed to we're just moving, moving, moving, moving, moving. Because that's good. Golf has it figured out. Golf has it figured out for watching in the background. You hear a loud scream on

somebody else's shot. It's like, wait a minute. So you're trying to guess now. And then some motherfucker you have never heard of comes on. All right's scotty mcfuck boy from ireland it's like well i wonder what happens here and then lo and behold every time fucking holes out yeah exactly what a shot what a shot thank you for that it was like a a little highlight a little appetizer real quick boom just a little dash of perk and then bang we're back into the story. It's like, they got it figured out. Golf

hasn't figured out. That's why the live thing, I think, is such a big, like, hey, it's figured out. How are they going to figure it out? What can they do to figure it out to get you to actually tune in? They need to just do a golf list. Yeah, pretty simple. Do a golf thing. Just do a golf list. Just do it.

They got it. They got it figured out. And if your leaderboard is a strong one, people will tune in more. Yep. And if it's not, they won't. That's golf, baby. Yeah. Bang up. Amen.

No, that's not the purists, obviously. They're going to watch and watch and watch. I'm just talking as a human that spends a lot of time watching golf in the weekend or at least having it on on TV in the background because it's something playing along. It's like, just do the golf because it's something playing along it's like just do the golf they mastered it yeah it's so good it is especially when it's good yeah when everyone's golfing and it's like that and like the leaderboard I mean we were saying it all weekend it felt like like this leaderboard obviously shuffler on Saturday was a bummer but

they were just studs at every single level it was awesome single level. It was awesome. Let's talk about Saturday. There was a little action over there in Saudi Arabia. Oh. Doing fights over there. Oh, yeah. Combat sports happening in Saudi Arabia. There was a boxing match. Big one.

For the World Heavyweight Championship. The whole fucking world. Undisputed. Undisputed. Heavyweight. If you're a heavyweight championship. The whole fucking world. Undisputed. Undisputed heavyweight. If you're a heavyweight, this is the fucking champion of all the men. Tyson Fury and Yusuke, I mean, what a fucking battle. These boys put on a show out there. They're all moms.

Tyson Fury came in in what seemingly was the best shape he's ever been in. We see him thin. Now, I obviously was introduced to him late when he was taking on the alabama hammer in multiple battles overseas and the his dad talking shit and him i immediately became a fan like look at this character then he got involved in wwe i'm like i fucking love this guy here we go and then he was great he was unhittable move so big so and then he fucking sing yeah this guy get on a microphone afterwards he would sing and he had a sweet accent and it was just like holy this is the this is the guy this is the guy then i listened to uh a british gambler okay that was breaking down a fight

and he said yusuk is in better form than tyson fury and then he, a lot of people say Tyson lost that fight to Francis Ngannou. And that his form, the battles with Fury battled Alabama Hamptons. Wilder? They said it killed him.

It ended both of them. It didn't kill him. He's not the same after that? He's a different fighter since that has happened. That's what this guy said. Nigel Seeley retweeted this guy's breakdown of the fight that he gave out before the fight. He was like, listen to this guy.

He broke it down completely. He's like, you said he's in great form, great shape. When he hit him with that, it looked like a video. It was a video game. This is not called. You're going to watch this maybe for the first time if you didn't see the highlight on the internet. That's in the middle of the fight. That's not AI.

That is in the middle of the fight, saved by the bell. There's a bell that comes in here. That bell, down. That was the end. It was wild. Nuts. Now, I didn't get to see the entire fight. I do apologize. The timing of the Saudi Arabia events is I don't really know until it's trending, and then it's already late, and I kind of missed it, so I do apologize. The timing of the Saudi Arabia events is I don't really know until it's trending and then it's

already late and I kind of missed it so I do apologize for that but U-6 new world champion and there were some highlights coming out of Saudi Arabia this weekend. Yeah and they were sweet. Also his story. I feel like if we knew what this guy was doing a couple years

ago, this is what popped up. It's a photo of him with the Klitschko brothers. Basically like, yeah, no, I'm not going to box anymore. I'm going to fight in a war instead of doing that. And obviously, if that was some information we knew last week, I think we all would have been like, okay, so maybe Fury might not have this one this week. And I think Yusef has a little bit more to fight for than Fury on this one. Yeah, I think the Klitschko brothers, the story we go on from this tweet from Michael Benson,

told him, like, no, Yusek will represent Ukraine on the world stage. He's a fucking world champ. Yeah. He's a world champ, AJ. Do you watch a lot of boxing? I mean, I like watching Tyson Fury. I like it, especially heavyweights. Like, when there's heavyweights that are well-known and they're fighting, yeah, it's fun to watch.

But these guys are going to rematch, aren't they? Yeah, Tyson already said, I got a rematch, he said. And then he obviously claimed that the judges were obviously a little bit swayed because they feel for Ukraine more so than they feel for the Gypsy King. So he moves along, keeps it moving. He's retired like five times though, hasn't he? Yeah, it's a genius move. He's been a Hall of Famer.

He's getting up there at eight. Yeah, he's been around a long time that's why i was getting introduced to him so late was a bit i'm kind of probably reality show was sweet yeah did you watch that right i watched i watched you know i don't know chunks of episodes chunks i watched i watched a couple episodes as well i was fascinated fascinated. I watched the first episode. I was fascinated by the way he goes about it. He's got a lot going on. There's a lot happening. Yeah, he's just out of here too.

Yep. Good luck. I'm out of here, dude. Okay. I don't know. That's wild. Mm-hmm. God bless you.

And his dad. Remember his dad? Bloody on the leading up to this fight and head button everything we can't be beat we can't be beat his dad his dad is a part of the promotion yeah exactly he is i feel like when uh whoever's doing the thing in saudi arabia goes to negotiate a deal they're like all right obviously we're gonna try to get a deal done with you first and then we're gonna obviously try to lock down your dad we need him him to do some shit, flip tables, headbutt, spit, whatever. He'd need to hold on. Typical, you know. We need the John Fury experience.

That's what we were hiring. Start to finish. How much money is that going to make? Because obviously boxing overseas is so big. Yeah, like what do they make? What was just their flat rate for both? I don't know. And is that how the new thing works as opposed to like pay-per-view buys and everything i don't know i genuinely don't know yeah for sure especially

what if you say put you know like garcia did what if he put five million on himself that's been happening in boxing for a long time yeah yeah forever floyd you're a boxing guy nah very casual big names big like i'll watch uh jake paul mike Mike Tyson fight before like you know I hope that doesn't disappoint it won't east all the way to west trip up to the Arctic and that was a one-second change of opinion like what I was I will watch that. I will watch that, but I do have... Doubts? Yeah, I do have doubts.

Have you seen their first face-off? Yeah. Mike's last fight wasn't great, but he does look good training. He looks real good training. No, his last fight, he wasn't allowed to... And I saw Jake was punching a 14-incher, so he's training hard, too. Yeah. He was speedbagging the dildos.

What? Was he really? Yeah, he was. Who was? Jake Paul. Jake Paul. For this fight? Yeah.

Like a marketing thing? I think he's just joshing around. Yeah. No, no, no. Mike called him. I know Tyson was calling him fat. He did. What?

He said he's out of shape? That's what he was saying? He was saying he was out of shape? I don't know if it was during this, but when Mike was sitting down, he called him fat multiple times, I think. I've seen people talk about Mike's highlight films as well because a lot of his cut-ups people have a problem with. They're saying, like, hey, Mike Tyson's promos, they're great,

but there's more cuts in the Biden videos than there are in the Mike Tyson ones. So, like, is this guy actually in shape because he's just sprinting for two seconds? And then that's all you see. I don't know what your comparison is. That's what they said. That was 16 seconds. No flubs fucking send it. The new one, maybe.

So him running, though, is very impressive. Because I'm 37 years old now, which is wild. I'm very old at this stage. I had a birthday, obviously, a few weeks back. I had a birthday. Too much of that. Too much of that. But I'm new 37 at this stage. I had a birthday, obviously, a few weeks back. I had a birthday. Too much of that. Too much of that. But I'm new 37.

Yeah, exactly. So it's a whole new. Fresh 37. What's that? Fresh 37. Yeah, but like saying my age. He's moving. I could not do that.

I don't know if I. Four or two? From that, people are saying like, okay, well, that's cool. I don't know, guys. I don't know. But I don't know how much of that you're doing, Mike. He doesn't have the sprint. Look at the knee drive.

The knee drive isn't... The ring for the fight is, I thought, 40 yards by 40 yards. So that's good. I think it's good that he's in a good spot. How about Jake putting his left hand right next to Mike Tyson's head and Tyson just standing there?

How does Jake feel? Jake has to be like, what? Is this going to hurt as bad as I think? He remembers watching Mike. You've seen highlights of Mike obviously knocking everybody out. I don't know if Jake feels that way. I think Jake probably thinks I'm not going to get hit by this. There's a lot of people worried about Mike Tyson being allowed to do this.

Mike, there's a lot of people saying that. I'm a little worried about Mike. 57 or whatever. You mean they're worried for Mike? Yeah this right about mike 57 or whatever you mean they're worried for mike yeah yeah because he's 57 or whatever yeah but then they saw that video him sprinting there i got mine yeah you're right that shuts him down that shuts him down how old is jake paul just so we know like 20 28 yeah okay so 29 year difference if that's accurate okay it just feels like a little separator. Not an exhibition, though.

The Roy Jones Jr. one. So this will go on Tyson's record. So I think he's got a little more skin in the game for this one. Can we put a title up on the line here? That'd be sweet. We should make one. 30-year title. It's on Netflix, right?

He's 57, Jake's 27. Oh, is it? It's live on Netflix. Yeah. Is it like a pay-per-view Netflix? If you have an account, you can watch. I think, yeah. It's beautiful.

Okay. Could you imagine Tyson does still? Could you imagine how mad people would be if you had to have Netflix and then also pay for the people? The world would melt down. That's the next step. It might implode. Oh, they're definitely going to have that.

We all know that's the next step. Super premium. What the fuck happened to my ex? I got ads showing up all over my shit. Me too. Me too. And then they say, do you want to upgrade? It's like, have I not already fucking? I thought I was upgraded.

What are we even? It's premium. You pay more for premium. Premium, but they won't even let me do it on my phone. No, no. That was just an upgrade. You need the premium to get no ads. Yeah, but how come I try to do it on my phone?

You won't let me do it on my fucking phone. I only use X on my phone. I don't even't even so i want to walk around with a laptop i gotta what are they doing they want everybody to pay for grok i'm not using grok cross you'll hold rock against me yeah that's true grok's listening though we need to yeah it's using you if you're using it or not watch your mouth nick what's. D, but we're off four days. I think we've got to do a giveaway. You want to win something for some people? Do we?

Because I feel like there was a really cool video put out this weekend or week, whatever it was, that made me think maybe we shouldn't do those. Oh, yeah. You were talking about the Emmy Award winning talk production? Yeah. Oh. Casey from Lumberwood? About the year that it was. New Cadillac Escalade owner yeah 16 000 original miles that's real deal holyfield 16 000 how was there only 16 000

what'd they do i think it probably was at a dealership and then probably the owner just kind of kept it as a hangout car and then just kept kept it, kept it, kept it. Love shack. They just made love to people in there probably all over that place. Hey, there's people telling us now, obviously anytime you auction anything in the world, there's going to be people saying, you got fucking got. You know, what a loser.

There was a lot of people in the car world that were like, 21 grand, 16,000 miles. Not that bad. Not that bad of a purchase either. When we do that fucking live on the air, what a home run situation. Shout out to Mecham. I spent a lot of time in the Indiana State Fair this weekend.

It was great. It was a great time. We were there for six hours on Saturday. It was awesome. It was. It was awesome. Just go outside. Were you guys there Saturday too? That was Friday. My apologies. Long weekend. I was going to say you guys went back because we did six hours earlier in the week. Did we do Saturday?

I don't think I went there on Saturday. No, I watched golf with Gabe. That was a sweet. Was that a Bronco for Sam? That thing was awesome. It's a 1966 Ford Bronco U13 Roadster. Okay? No roof, no doors.

Not a lot of power in the engine, but we'll get that fixed. Oh. Sam loves it. It looks sweet. Especially now, this time of year, you're getting it too, like when you can use it. Yeah, it's awesome. It's perfect. I do believe the gas pedal actually fell off today while she was driving it.

So add that to the list. There's some other stuff. You fit perfectly in the front seat. Yeah. So, you know, when I sit down and, you know, the thing that goes up and down, you know. Well, when it's sitting, it is right here on me. Just stare it out. I can get down here.

You know, I can see what's going on out there But I gotta do it myself Because the chairs don't move They do not budge But Sam fucking loves it So that's all that matters out there She's enjoying the hell out of it It is going to need to be tuned up and fixed

And made a little bit more modern Well you saw the other ones That were souped up. When that happens, it will be unbelievable. Bingo. The whole deal is like, you've got to build these cars. I almost started a, this will come to a surprise to nobody that knows me, almost started a custom car garage on Friday.

I was actually asking around. I was asking a couple of buyers. Auctioneer Matt. What do you mean? You're trying to hire him away? I'm just asking him how we fucking make money here. Because there's people that have like a hundred cars just doing Mecham.

They don't have dealerships. They just do cars at Mecham. They buy these cars. They find these cars. Whether they're at other auctions, like smaller auctions, or they find them somewhere, they buy at other um auctions like smaller auctions or they find them somewhere they buy them they fix them up and then they put them up at meekum and then there's people making like full business have for like a long time so i'm watching the show

i'm like i like cars you know yeah i love cars would love to just like be at meekum and make money as opposed to spend you know a lot of it'd be cooler watching your cars get bought. It'd be sweet to do that entire thing. But then I was told, yeah, you can't be some dumb dipshit getting into the car game. Then you're predicting the prices on these cars and then when they're going to move, how they're going to move and fixing everything. But I was close.

You know, Mario... Used to be a car... No, A.C. Slater is not in the card. Didgeriddy? Harvey? Bill Pio, not Mario Harvey out of Huntington. Super? Linebacker turned fullback.

You remember him? Oh, yeah. He would fucking murder people. Mario Williams, maybe? I forget his last name. D. Lyman? Football player? Mario Williams, the D end?

From the Texans? Hold on. Texans and Bills Number one pick Built by Of course Mario Addison I'm sorry

Oh yeah I am sorry Mario I did not remember your last name I follow him on Instagram Built by Yo He has a car He customizes cars Oh shit

Yeah he just does that entire thing So as I'm sitting at Mecham I'm like thinking about I'm like man we can make a fucking Right Built by Yo He's already got it figured out He's got all the cars We're fucking about, man, we can make a fucking, right? Built by you. He's already got it figured out. He's got all the cars.

We're fighting about the auction here. We can get it good. We're doing that. Got land. And then all of a sudden, you walk outside. The wife buys a 66 Bronco. You pay a lot of money for that. Then you got to check out.

And buying and selling cars is a miserable process. The amount of paperwork you got to fill out. Talk had to go through all that for the first time because we bought him an Escalade. Congrats, Talk. Congrats, Talk. Way to have to go through that. It's like initiation in humans. Yep, took him for a ride.

You can make money off that. You just gotta find a couple fish like Bill. He's already got buyer's remorse over the car he bought. It is. What happened? I'd like to know. He bought a Jeep Wrangler on Wednesday afternoon after the show was off air. Yep. Asked him how it was going

this morning. He said, already had buyer's remorse about halfway to work so what happened no he he had to learn he had to relearn how to drive a stick you know because a lot of these cars are manual and he said he had driven stick before when he was 13 on a farm at his grandpa's i'm like so have you done it in between then he goes no just then i'm like well-year-old you could figure it out. Easy. Certainly adult you could figure it out. Even though you had an entire driving career since then. But, yeah, he figured it out. He rolled that thing in this morning. I didn't know there was remorse.

He had a big smile on his face. Well, he said nothing on the dash works, so he doesn't know how much gas is in there, doesn't know how fast he's going, you know, all that kind of stuff. RPMs aren't working. So, you know, he's probably going to end up running out of gas at one of these times. Bill, the good news is, with how jacked you are, you'll be able to push that Jeep where you need to go. That is the only way I can get it in and out of my garage right now because the slope of the driveway, you know, getting up in there in first gear is a little bit tough. What?

He's scared to death. What do you mean? He's scared to death. I don't want to send that thing to the back of my garage. I don't think it's stolen. I think he's worried he's going to jump it and that thing's going to... Shut up! You're pushing your... That is awesome, Bill. it's stolen. I think he's worried he's going to jump it, and that thing's going to... You're pushing your...

That is awesome, Bill. That's awesome. Buyers and borrowers make sense. Big time. Bill, you've got to get better with that clutch, dude. Come on. It's just practice. Just practice.

Yeah, I've been trying to practice out here in the parking lot. This is a good spot. I actually go out to this lot over here and get you practicing, because you need not be pushing your Jeep. Also, not having the title and not being able to legally really drive it anywhere is kind of a hindrance. This is Bill's Jeep Renegade. Oh, sweet, Bill. It is.

It is pretty cool. So you drove yours without any of that stuff, but Toc wouldn't drive his here? Yeah, real fucking fun for whoever has to drive them. He scared Toc into not doing too much with his Escalade. Smart move. I mean, Toc a wuss, dog. What are we talking about? Yeah, but talk would have had to get on like two highways to get up here.

Bill didn't have to. Bill had to stall out at four stops on it. Push it out of his driveway. Push it out of his driveway. Different drive. I can't wait to see that escalator up here, though. We spent a full day at the auction before even seeing that thing because they had to go hide it because i guess it was talk of the time everybody was trying to

take photos for shoot so they had to go move it to another garage yeah so we had been there for probably three four hours before we saw it everybody how's that escalator like have a little go on the internet good on you and then in person guess what it's beautiful it looks just as good he can update the entertainment console a little bit and if he did that i think he's got like a brand new yes fucking when he turned it on it said like may 2nd 1998 on the on the radio so there's a chance it hasn't been turned on not since then because it's 2002 but still man just so many songs too he's learning about all the escalade references did you guys see see the Flintstones golf cart by chance?

Yeah, it was 10 grand I think they were asking for. There was a souped up one with American flags. Oh, I did not see that one. I did not see that one. That's sweet. I saw another souped up red one though that I thought you'd be referring to. A street legal? You can certainly make it street legal here in Indiana. What, AJ?

I mean, yeah, it's great in theory. I guess for once or twice a one-off I don't know if I want that as my everyday driver Take that to the golf course, brother Yeah, that on the golf course I mean, that is fun for about eight minutes Not a lot of clearance up there in the front, huh? Me and Gubs were pretty close to deucing a golf cart

Just to drive around Downtown Downtown during the city Golf carts are awesome There are some souped up ones Me and Gubbs were pretty close to deucing a golf cart just to drive around downtown. You should. Downtown during the city. Golf carts are awesome. You want that thing? There's some souped up ones. There's some souped up ones.

Yeah, there's one that was. They're expensive. Yeah, it was like 13 grand. But I, like. It was a good time at Mecham. We appreciate them. Thank you for that. I wonder if Barrett Jackson comes down.

That's the other auction. Cowboy's up there with his cowboy hat, by the way, and the gavel or whatever. Oh, yeah. Doing his thing. Dominating. Then another auctioneer comes in. That's the other auction. Cowboy's up there with his cowboy hat by the way into the gavel or whatever. Doing his thing. Another auctioneer comes in. They got a full show. I'm so impressed by the show that it is. It's just like one of the biggest

stages I've seen. Doesn't stop. The WWE folks are six times a week. They're doing TV at least two times a week, maybe three, depending on the new premium live event schedule and everything. But the stages that get built and the tech that gets set up and the microphones and the lighting and the amount of people

that are all kind of coordinated working together, it's like with Mecham, I saw maybe the closest thing. WWE is the best in the world at it. It is stupid with how in sync. Well-oiled machine. It is bananas how good everybody seemingly is at their job when it comes to fucking setting everything up. But with Mecham, it looked like they had

a very similar type operation. So I was so impressed by it all. Congrats to them. They got good money on me every time. Yeah, they are two for two in the Pat McAfee boat. Yeah, anytime I show up, there's a good chance there's money. What's that, AJ?

Well, it's not only that. I'm just saying it would be very difficult to actually go to the Mecham auction and not buy anything. I would assume that. So hard. Well, and the auctioneers see them, like the ones on the floor. So anytime there's a car and there's no action, they're like, point at him every time.

This would be cool. See this Hummer? You could drive it at some point. The owner of the Hummer, the bid person, the auctioneer, the bid people down the floor, and the son of the Hummer all come up to us and say, hey, I heard you're interested in the... You guys like the Hummer? Because we must have said on the show, look at the fucking Hummer. Oh, was it the old school one?

Like the original black one? Yeah. So they were trying to get us to buy that for sure. That felt like too much. They're like, well, I i'm gonna be paying a lot for this well we were gonna if no one bothered us we're like we're definitely gonna buy that one okay connor's gonna punish these people yeah that's not the case red flag yeah they're trying to push it too hard yeah right third person they did think for whatever reason for For shoot, yes. It was a real deal. All right, D-Butt, what are we doing as a giveaway here, pal? Let's throw a football in the bin.

Wow. Okay. Okay. In the final boss's bin. Final boss's bin. Boss's bin. Pull in the boss's bin. The FB been shitting me.

Come on, Butch. Come on, Butchie. What do you say, Butch? Good fit today. Great fit today, Butch. Come on, Butch. What do you say, Butch? Good fit today. Great fit today, Butch. Good fit. D. Butch, like the great Scotty Scheffler, what we need you to be is cool in the pocket,

calm under pressure. We need you to go from being in the mentality of you're stretching in a jail cell to providing something awesome for the world within a matter of moments. Right now, all we need you to do is bury that ball into the final boss's bin. And 25 people will win $500. Here we go. 25 people, $500 on this Overreaction Monday.

Oh, shit. Oh. Oh. Oh. That bounce is going to get in sometime. Bounces do count in this particular world on Overreaction Monday. AJ, anything to say to D-Butch as he attempts another go at the final boss's bid? He doesn't need anything from me, but he knows this one's going in.

He doesn't need anything. He doesn't need anything. He's going in. He can't hear anything he just said. He said you don't need anything. He said this one's going in. If it does, 25 people. $500!

I like that line. I like that line. I like that line. A little bit more aggressive. A little bit more aggressive. A little bit more aggressive. That ball's flat. You need to watch it. Conman, anything you say to D. Butch here

to motivate him to put the ball into the final boss's bid? What would Barkov do? Hey! Hey! Yeah. What would he do? This one's for Barkov.

Oh, shit. Off the wall. Oh! He's too juiced up. That's what Barkov would do. Yeah, Barkov would be proud. Ty Schmidt has a couple words for you, D-Butch, as you attempt to bury a ball into the final boss's bin.

Fire that son of a bitch right at the rock's forehead as hard as you can. If you do that and the ball ends up in the bin, 25 people win 500. Didn't change his tactic at all. He didn't. He had faith. He didn't need your ideas. He needed motivation, but not your method. Tone Diggs here, one half of the hammer.

Cowboys, obviously watching throw from that particular angle, has maybe a different eye on it. Yeah. You know, they say that's the final boss has been, but I say, fuck that. You know, fuck that. That's your bin, D-Butt. Throw that in there. Fuck that throw.

That's what happens. It's in the water. Wow. Pretty good. Pretty good in the water. Does that count? That's pretty good. It doesn't count for the game, but it certainly will be remembered forever.

Yep. Holy shit. That's talks, isn't it? Yeah. That's his thoughts. That's talks water fountain. The one he got scared at? Yeah.

Yeah. It is debauch. It feels like we're down to our final football here for the final boss's bin. All you'll have to do is put that Bama ball into the final boss's bin, and 25 people will win $500 on this Overreaction Monday. Took a four-day break, but it's great to be back. Other water fountains. What's up with the water fountains?

Well, it's not a lollipop. Oh, shit. They got the Duke. Ladies and gentlemen, this particular ball was signed by Roger Goodell himself. If Darius Butler is able to put this Duke into the final boss's bin, I got to go under him. What? Ref toss.

Because we have a lot of respect for the officials around here. That's right. Not the officials. That's my hard job. Hard job. And when we say something negative, you know, that's just trying to say that we support you, but come on, you're better than that. NBA officials, union, tweeting me.

I apologize. Be a friend, tell a better than that. NBA officials, union, tweeting me. I apologize. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. Might change their life. Hey, refs, you guys are doing great, except for when you're not, but it's a hard job. Exactly. And we appreciate you guys. Gotta hold you accountable.

Now, as an official, with the underhand toss, if you put that Duke in the final boss's bin, 25 people win $500 on this overreaction Monday. Darius J. Butler! Why even do that? That was tough, brother. I don't understand, my friend.

Fucks a shoulder. Did you? Oh, you hurt your shoulder? Can you punt it? Tone? Are you going to Monaco for the race, D-Butt? It's calibrated. That's game ball.

That's game ball. Spring game. All that thing does is win. That's all it does. What was the final score? We won by 10. 31-21. Ladies and gentlemen,

GG run wild, brother. Me and Coach Blaine Stewart won a game that this ball was played with. And? With. Both. Yeah. One and Coach Blaine Stewart won a game that this ball was played with. With. Both. Yeah. One and the same. If this ball can bring joy yet again, it's on this moment. At this time. With that been for 25 people to win $500.

The final boss is Ben! Yup. Oh no! Oh, no. Oh, my goodness. Is somebody in there knocking it out? Might be talk. Is that what we're going to use that today?

Does that count? I mean, what is it? That doesn't count? That doesn't. That thing actually. That's unbelievable. I think the final boss heard Tony. And then when that ball came in.

Oh, fuck that ball. We thought that was going to happen to Xander Shoffley's putt, but instead his falls, ours misses. That's the first loss that ball has ever seen. And it was all the way home. That was crazy. Almost heaven

West Virginia. They were singing that somewhere. Where were they singing that at? Edmonton? Vancouver? Yeah, it was one of the two. The Coovers were singing it? I think so, yeah. Edmonton. Crushed it. Yeah, it was good. The song's awesome. Cute country roads. They did that and they did Living on a Prayer as they were singing Living on a Prayer, the Oilers

scored. It was a pretty good night in Edmonton. That's Jon Bon Jovi, baby. Jon Bon Jovi. JBJ comes on the tunes. JBJ's a dog. I learned a lot about JBJ. Oh, yeah? From some people who know JBJ. Yeah, he's a weapon. JBJ's a dog. I learned a lot about JBJ. Oh, yeah? From some people who know JBJ.

Yeah, he's a weapon. JBJ is a weapon. He goes. He's a worker. Yes, he is. JBJ's a worker. He works. I didn't know that.

He's like a worker worker. He's going through some vocal thing right now. He had some vocal surgery. I heard him talk about it. He's not sure where he's... He's not sure what's going to happen. He's not. He'll be fine.

He'll always be fine. Amen. Thank you. You're right. Jesus. He's a fucking asshole. Let's get. He's not. He'll be fine. He'll always be fine. Amen. Thank you. You're right. Jesus. He's a fucking asshole. Let's get out of here. We'll be back tomorrow.

Thanks for allowing us to do this. We're living. It's the dumbest show of all time. We know that. But the fact that you allow us to do it, we'll be eternally grateful for. AJ, you did great today, bub. Thank you. Thank you, Holger.

Hey, we did some gardening today, didn't we? Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Did we ever. We did some gardening today. Here we go. Shout out to Future here. It's the ego. Oh, man, did we ever. We did some gardening today. Here we go. Shout out to the future here. It's the ego.

Oh, yeah. I got a leaf blower with that same technology. What if I would have bopped the thing down to make the little thing pop? I would do that on a cord. You should do that. Of course, but it would be fucking. That would have been the. If I would have done that, bang, bang, and then.

Come on. Come on. You should take the cap off that Gatorade bottle with that thing. Or cut that straw. That little fucking thing will shoot off. Somebody will get hit in the face with the eyeball. Cover your eyes, guys. Just cut that straw in half. You got it. You got it.

You got it. Yep. Yep. You got it. You got it. Oh, shit. There it is. Boom.

Good cut. Good cut. All right. That's precision. So. You got to open a landscape company now Maybe I mean I'm gonna

I'm gonna sleep on it Alright Great work today guys Be a front teller Find something nice It might change their life We're in this thing together Team on me

Team on three One two three Team Goodbye