The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1132 - Matthew Tkachuk, Austin Rivers, Jamal Crawford, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 21, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the Edmonton Oilers closing out the Vancouver Canucks and moving to the Western Conference Finals to face off against the Dallas... Stars, as well as look ahead to tonight’s matchup between the Indiana Pacers and Boston Celtics, check in on some different teams during OTA’s, and everything else that’s happening around the sports world. Pat and the boys are also joined by four great guests including 4x All-Star and current Winger for the Florida Panthers, Matthew Tkachuk (21:45-40:24) 12 year NBA veteran and current ESPN NBA analyst Austin Rivers (44:04-56:31), 22 year NBA veteran, 3x Sixth Man of the Year, and color commentator for the NBA on TNT, Jamal Crawford (1:08:04-1:33:39), and 12 year NFL veteran at QB, and ESPN NFL analyst, Dan Orlovsky (1:37:52-2:12:03). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. See you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Big Sports Tuesday, May 21st, 2024. This program starts now! Sports are awesome. Sports are the greatest thing on Earth. And hello, Concafa SC merch. We got our kits in time for TST just a couple weeks out. And I'll tell you, the boys had a training camp last week. I wasn't able to make it because, obviously, the Fever had their season opener here in Indiana, as well as the Pacers had to beat the hell out of the Knicks at Cambridge.
Starting point is 00:00:35 So the boys had training camp down in Florida. Our team's good. Okay. Our team is good. The boys are in shape. I heard beep tests would have been nothing for the group that we had. Wow. Yeah, we got some Arena League players, I guess,
Starting point is 00:00:46 who are just coming off their season. Maybe even a Golden Boot winner from the Arena. Oh, man. Yeah, maybe on the team. A lot of ex-national team guys that are still in great shape. I will certainly be the fattest guy on the team, and that's good news because it's live subbing, so I just got to get in and out quick and let the boys handle their work.
Starting point is 00:01:01 We're excited. We got kids coming, and I believe we even have merch coming through soccer.com. Okay. Okay, they're right on the bottom. Yeah, right there. I don't know when it's going to go live. I feel like they probably didn't appreciate the fact that I just put a little public pressure on them there.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Sorry about that. But they're going to be selling shit for us. I mean, I can't thank them enough for filling orders. Wow. That's huge. Yeah, so we're excited on this big sports Tuesday. Also, conference finals have been set for both sports that are currently running on both sides of the country. We'll talk about it all.
Starting point is 00:01:28 Last night, congrats to Edmonton Oilers. Get a big-time win on the road against Vancouver. They'll take on the Dallas Stars. This Texas hockey team, it might be the year. One half of the hammer, done. Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino. Does it feel like it's back in the day with this Dallas Stars team? 1999, brother.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Actually, the shortest remaining team who won the Stanley Cup last. Panthers never won it. Rangers, 94. Oilers, 1990. This is a throwback rivalry matchup with the Oilers from back in the day. I love that from back in the day, and certainly people are going to have to be reminded of that a lot. A lot of people may be just learning that,
Starting point is 00:02:08 but they're going to party like it's 1999. And on the other side, we got the New York Rangers. Congrats to them. A lot of khakis in Madison Square Garden when the rags are on the ice, and obviously they've made quick work of a lot of teams, and they are certainly big and strong and capable to potentially go on and lift Florida, but they're taking on a tough bunch. They just knocked out the Boston Bruins yet again out of Sunrise, Florida.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Never heard of that. Where is that? Oh, it's South Florida. Real hot. Caribbean down there. They got a big, tough, fast team led by a man named Kachuk who will be joining us today. Okay. Nine-year NFL vet, obviously one of the smartest football brains on earth. big, tough, fast team led by a man named Kachuk who will be joining us today. Nice! Nine-year NFL vet, obviously one of the smartest football
Starting point is 00:02:48 brains on earth. Darius J. Bullard is here. You've got Kachuk coming on. I mean, what a guy, what a team, what a time. Can't wait to talk to Chucky again. Back in the Eastern Conference Finals, obviously good, great Rangers team we're facing and hopefully we punch our ticket to another final and finally win it.
Starting point is 00:03:03 So now we can get one and celebrate with Lourdes, and now Gump can get off our back about never winning one. Yeah, we'll see. He likes holding that over people's heads. Yeah, you gotta win one. Well, and to be clear, Gump's just up there in left Canada, and we're watching left Canada battle here in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:03:20 And the Edmonton Oilers win last night, Game 7, 3-2. Got close. Very. 3-0, 3- seven. 3-2, got close. Barry. 3-0, 3-1, 3-2. Holy shit. Is Edmonton about to give this up? Is Connor McDavid and Dreisaitl about to get run out of the playoffs for another year? Is the conversation about McDavid going to get loud?
Starting point is 00:03:36 Well, earlier in the game, it didn't feel like that. A couple of clap bombs. Bodansky with another long shot. CeCe there was the first one. Nice, CeCe, what you're doing there. Then he gets bang, pow, hey! Back of the net. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:03:47 Off the post. Can we turn the sound on? Can we go back to the highlight and turn that sound on for that? Fire, score! I don't know if you caught it or heard it, but it was beautiful. It was fantastic. Look at the shots here. Edmonton dominating.
Starting point is 00:04:01 22 shots to 4 shots. There it is. There it is. There it is. Off the pipe. Unsavable. The Edmonton. Look at that. The Edmonton Oilers were buzzing early.
Starting point is 00:04:14 They would get all the way up to 3-0. Shots would be double. 26-13 here in the middle of the second period. And they just continued to pour it on. What a goal there. What a touch. What a save. What a bank.
Starting point is 00:04:23 What a shot. 3-0 to Edmonton Oilers and their watch-along party that we'll certainly get to in a moment are having a blast just a few hours away in Western Canada as the Vancouver Canucks seem to be bending over and taking it in a game 7 in their house.
Starting point is 00:04:38 Oh, wait a minute. It's 3-1. Are they going to climb back into this thing? The Vancouver fans are starting to go bananas. How about just about a minute or so later? Ah! Goal! 3-2!
Starting point is 00:04:50 Third period! Crowd and arena are going bananas! Are the Edmonton Oilers about to give this one up? Are the Edmonton Oilers once again going to be shipped out of the playoffs without getting a win? Are they going to give up a 3-0 lead against the Coovers in Game 7? No, they didn't. They're going to win. They're in.
Starting point is 00:05:08 Congrats to them, and congrats to McDavid. And DriveSide might be the best player on the ice across all conferences at this exact moment. So good luck to Texas Hockey. And in the NBA, we got our conference finals as well. In the West, wait a minute, is that the Dallas Mavericks? Holy hell, just a year ago, whenever Kyrie Irving joined that team, remember, they wanted in a dumper.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Luka was actually saying, I don't like basketball anymore. What the hell happened? Luka was just basketball, just ball. Literally just ball. What do you mean you don't like basketball anymore? Well, him and Kyrie must not get along. That must have been a bad decision for the Dallas Mavericks, bringing Kyrie Irving.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Look what's happened everywhere else. Instead, we were told, no, no, no, Luka and Kyrie like each other a lot. And we're like, well, it doesn't make sense. The team stunk as soon as Kyrie got there, we were told, no, no, no. Luca and Kyrie like each other a lot. And we're like, well, it doesn't make sense. The team stunk as soon as Kyrie got there. And they go, no, no. They like each other. And now look at him. Now look at him. Western Conference Finals. Mark Cuban looks like a genius for re-signing Kyrie Irving, keeping him together with Luca, building a team around them,
Starting point is 00:05:58 and they're taking on the new one. The man. Ant-Man. Who is going to have a show for the rest of his life. no matter what he's doing because he is hysterical. He is one of one. He is a character, and he is a character that we all appreciate and love because he seems to be an absolute dog
Starting point is 00:06:14 who loves ball, loves being a leader, and we've already seen him act. The guy should have got a damn Oscar for his work in Hustle, which was a great movie. Great actor. Kermit Willis. Adam Salos. Yeah, dramatic Willis. Adam Sandler was... Yeah, dramatic role for the Sandman. Searching the world.
Starting point is 00:06:27 Yeah. High and low. Now, he'll go back to being obviously Happy Gilmore, but he'll let you know. I can get into the dramatics if you need me. Oh, yeah. And you go to an Adam Sandler live show, that dude's singing songs. Incredible. Like 50 of them.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Now, they're like maybe 30-second versions of a song. But if you wanted to extend them, they'd probably win a Grammy with the entire thing he's got cooking. Sam Mankooks, and he saw talent whenever he saw Ant-Man and said, give me that guy on the silver screen. Well, on the court, he is phenomenal. This is going to be a great matchup, but then let's go to the East. You know, I got talks at the table over there at Ty Schmid, who
Starting point is 00:06:58 obviously has a massive brain. We appreciate you. And then we got a guy from Boston over there wearing a sweet tie-dye tiger, it appears. Thank you. Thank you very much. A lot of colors there. If I was to be tripping balls right now, I believe that particular tiger would be moving or staring at me or doing something like that.
Starting point is 00:07:14 But that is a cool shirt you got. Yeah. Terrence Howard kind of spoke through my brain when I picked out this shirt this morning. So that's actually a seven-dimensional shirt. Bingo. We just don't know that. There you go. See, what you're looking at here is paint on a shirt in an artistic fashion.
Starting point is 00:07:27 But if you were to turn that song bitch sideways, there would have to be a little bit of space for the sound waves to kind of get through. But what sound waves are doing is sending love. I believe that's what I heard from Terrence Howell. Yeah, pretty much. He changes the way everybody looks at everything if you were to break down what he was saying. But boy, it's a lot of big words saying things that I don't think I fully understood. But everybody else is saying the guy's a genius. Yeah. Sure. I didn't know that. Exactly. Turn his science on his head isn't it one of the two well actually which head is it you know because
Starting point is 00:07:51 which dimension are we turning it into exactly is it a fourth dimension head or if i've saw some clips from terrence howard breaking some things down and i'll tell you what i i don't think periodic table woke up new i don't think periodic table knew periodic table's been sitting around the side of every single classroom since the beginning of Elements. And just been like, my shit is good. You're talking about being content and comfortable. That's what people are talking about.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Periodic Table, this is what Earth is. Welcome to the world. It is this. What does this mean? It's two layers of it. Okay. All right. Sounds like I don't understand any of that.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Terrence Howard said, that motherfucker's gotten too comfortable. Didn't he? Yes, he did. He said periodic tables got a little bit too comfortable. It should have looked the way it looks. He started diving right into that. It's actually a circle. Yeah. It's actually a circle. No, it's a box. No such thing as straight lines, actually.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Impossible. Which is kind of true. And then once you think about it, it depends on... What's that? I don't know. I mean, a lot of people are saying he's a genius and everyone's entitled to their own opinion. That's fine. It sounded like a lot of bullshit mumbo jumbo to me, but hey, that's neither here nor there. No, that's because we don't get it. That's good. I tell you what,
Starting point is 00:08:56 long mumbo jumbo coming out of his mouth, but all the words he was saying was like, ah, okay. Fascinating. Those are big words. I've never heard somebody actually use those in school. Knows the elements. But I like how he's committed. Yeah. He's all in on it. Sweet. Anyways, what he would say about that shirt is something that obviously we could never understand on this particular
Starting point is 00:09:12 show, but other people would be able to because they've got big brains. It's a great shirt. And you know why you're wearing that shirt, I think, subliminally? Yeah, I think you do. Because you know that tonight the Pacers are coming into town as 10-point dogs in a minus-thousand-favorite Eastern Conference Finals Boston Celtics play host to the Indiana Pacers.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Now, the boys are buzzing after what they did in the God. Of course. We saw it. We were whacking. It was sweet. They brought out their hosts. They did. They brought out their little shovels.
Starting point is 00:09:45 They got their weed whackers. And they went into the celebrity's court and beat their asses. And talked shit while they were doing it. Now tonight, a whole new story begins. And this is, we were talking about this earlier. And obviously, I believe everything is wrestling. You know, life is wrestling. Sports is wrestling.
Starting point is 00:10:02 You know, that is what life is. It's crazy because that Knicks Pacers series was like its own season. It was literally like we had waves. We had people getting hot. We had drama. We had controversy. And then all of a sudden that season, whole new season begins now. Whole new story starts.
Starting point is 00:10:18 A whole new feel-out period for all of these teams in the biggest moment of all time. And it feels like Celtics fans have zero respect for the Pacers. What is that all about? Did you not see what TJ, Tyree, Spicy P, Miles Turner, Jackson, and boys did in Madison Square Garden, pal? Yeah, no, I saw it. But what was the conversation yesterday? What was everyone bitching about?
Starting point is 00:10:40 The injuries? And sure, the Celtics are missing Chris Topsporzini. We don't know if Joe Mazzulla is healthy. He's had a lot of time to roll with his jiu-jitsu instructor. I assume Joe Mazzulla has been choked out at least four times since the last time the Celtics have played basketball, and that is not a sexual connotation. He has a jiu-jitsu trainer.
Starting point is 00:10:56 He's been choked out multiple times after big losses that the Celtics have had. Good clarification. We don't know, though. We don't know. We don't want to pass judgment. In the context of this conversation. We don't know, though. We don't know. In the context of this conversation. We don't know. There's people that do a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:11 That's pretty wild. Couldn't even imagine Terrence Howard. Again, with the game tonight. He's an actor, right? Not a scientist? You never know. He might have found the wrong lane early and had great success. He had to stick in it. What it sounds like is he's talking about, are you actually making love?
Starting point is 00:11:26 Because of Four Brothers, he couldn't even beat Marky Mark in the Funky Buns. Well, nobody could. Respect. He's a thespian, dude. I mean, talk about the rap career he could have had. Hustle. I mean, he had a couple bangers in there. Yeah, he had a start on us, too.
Starting point is 00:11:39 I mean, he kind of was cooking for nine months. He was kind of already. True. He had a brain in the womb. That's a great point. That's another quote from Terrence Howard on Joe Rogan's podcast. He says, first memories are actually in his mother's womb. And I'll tell you what, I like to fancy myself, my brain, as one that can remember stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Probably the only reason why this show actually goes is because if it gets in here, it's normally going to stay. Now, once it leaves, it's gone forever. That is a little bit of a detriment to this entire thing. It's not great news. But once it gets in here, it's normally going to stay. Now, once it leaves, it's gone forever. That is a little bit of a detriment to this entire thing. It's not great news, but once it gets in here, it's good. Terrence Howard said, I've been thinking since womb, baby. He was working on being an actor before
Starting point is 00:12:15 he was even B. Before birth, B.B. Terrence Howard, B.B. was working on acting in the womb, so he didn't have time to focus on science. No. Once he became a retired actor, still acting.
Starting point is 00:12:30 He's still acting. How does he have time? How does he have time with what he's doing at the periodic table? Maybe the strike. Maybe the strike. He learned this all during the acting strike. I mean, that's a good call because there was a couple years there. Howard has stated that he went to school for chemical engineering and applied materials,
Starting point is 00:12:45 though he did not complete his engineering degree. Howard thinks of himself as an engineer and intends to return one day to compete to three credits, of which he claims he is currently short. He's an engineer. Yeah. Okay, three credits. Yeah. He's a human engineer.
Starting point is 00:12:58 He's a human engineer. He should get it for what he did to the periodic table. Sure. Just in that one podcast. Anyways, let's get back to this. Pacers are going to beat the Celtics. Look. That's just how podcast. Anyways, let's get back to this. Pacers are going to beat the Celtics. Look, I... That's just how you need to understand
Starting point is 00:13:08 how this is going to go. And there ain't nothing Terrence Howard can tell me about straight lines and basketballs and hoops and whatever material atom matter is in the damn game. And how hard the garden is up there in Boston.
Starting point is 00:13:20 You already know. We are phenomenal gardeners. Sure. Things that are incredibly difficult to do as gardeners, we are phenomenal gardeners. Things that are incredibly difficult to do as gardeners, we do. Game seven, in a garden, we garden. The hell out of the Knicks, the hell out of their building. So we're not scared of going into Boston and doing our thing. We actually relish that.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I think that's how the Pacers feel. Yes, and if there is a game to get, it is tonight for the Pacers. The Celtics haven't played in a while. The Pacers are, you know, I like the momentum that they have. Here we go. Let me land the plane. Let me land the plane. Because you let off yesterday about the crying and moaning that everyone was doing about the Knicks injuries, and it is absurd.
Starting point is 00:13:55 What's also absurd is that it took the Pacers seven games to beat a team that had one guy on their starting lineup. Yeah, here we go. On the opposite side, the Celtics, sure, we're missing Chris Dallas-Porzingis. Now, I would love to see Miles Turner score 40 points on Luke Cornett or Al Horford, but that's just not going to happen. And the other thing that's not going to happen, yeah, he is a baller. And by the way, people are always saying, I think Per came on here,
Starting point is 00:14:16 Al Horford can't give you 38 minutes anymore. He's an old guy. Guess what he did? He gave us 38 minutes, and we beat the shit out of the Cleveland Cavaliers, who, I mean, some would argue are better than the Pacers. Some would also argue that a lot of the teams left are better than the Pacers, a lot of them being all three of them. But the Knicks said they were better than the Pacers.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah, absolutely. That's how this whole thing is. And there's a chance that's true if they're healthy. But again, even Terrence Howard would say sports are settled on court. Yeah, bingo. Well, unless these refs are made of a material that not all other humans are made of. There you go. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:14:45 There's a chance, right? Great point. Just like district attorneys. Sure. They're made of a material that not everybody else is made of. Yeah, sure. Yeah, everybody else on earth can be like. A lot of high horses in Louisville.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Let's kind of move past this and figure it out. Louisville district attorneys, I need a little more time. They have the highest horses down there, Pat. You should know that. They got fast, high horses. Don't they, Louisville? That's the horse state. I don't even think about how high and fast their horses are.
Starting point is 00:15:12 That Louisville district attorney is like, he thinks he's going to play in a golf tournament. People are paying to come see him play. Not a chance. And he's going to not listen in the middle of rain and darkness in the morning. And we're going to put him him in orange jumpsuit and the whole world is gonna ridicule and mock the whole situation he's gonna come out and say it was a misunderstanding said the cops are just doing their job you think we're just gonna let that slide i don't think so not in this city no say june is there any body cam footage so we can see
Starting point is 00:15:37 what's happening absolutely not shut up you know early it was in the morning you think those cameras are already charged absolutely not what are we even talking about? It's amazing. Everybody on earth thought that thing was going to be dropped and that guy said, not on my watch. No chance. You see the way I'm riding this damn thing? See how big this thing is? He had to do this to get into the courtroom. Yep. That district attorney. Yeah. And as soon as he got back in there,
Starting point is 00:15:57 that son of a bitch grew back up. I never forget whenever I was in court for public intoxication. The judge seemed to be understanding of what's going on here. You were drunk and broad, Red Bull. District attorney wanted a little bit of extension
Starting point is 00:16:14 on time, so he could learn a little bit more about my charges to see if we could maybe take a tractor or another. I stare at this guy. I hate you. District attorneys, though, trying to make a name for themselves. Obviously, they're trying to do their thing. It's a big whale. Could you imagine if Scotty Scheffler and his district attorney get in for a felony? District attorneys, though, trying to make a name for themselves, obviously. Trying to do their thing. It's a big whale. Their moment. I like this guy.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Could you imagine if Scotty Scheffler and his district attorney get in for a felony? This is a felony charge. Oh, I hope. I hope this thing goes all the way. Because it would be awesome to watch this guy argue that Scotty is in the wrong here. No, it would be sweet. Yes. I mean, it would be.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And Scotty would have to deal with that. And Scotty would. But what if this actually does go to court and everything like that? What an absurd situation that we all seemingly agreed upon. Literally about 30 minutes after it happened. Even the cops in Louisville were like, Scotty, hey, sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:16:56 So sorry. So sorry. If it was literally any other cop. That's the only cop that had no idea that you're the guy here. We are so sorry. All of them. Everybody seemed to be on the same page. The owner of Valhalla went and picked him up in jail. Mayor came out and was like, hey, what's up?
Starting point is 00:17:10 This district attorney, though, was like, what do you think I was voted in here for? Let this robotic golfer get off with ruining an $80 pair of pants? One of our officers? I don't think so. What a time. It's wild. 2024 is sweet. I mean, not in this guy's city, I'll tell you that much.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Not a chance. Listen, I know we're all saying, hey, throw this out. Not a big deal. Classic misunderstanding. There's a chance Scotty Scheffler's going to be behind bars for the next 10 years. Felony charge! That prison golf team is pretty good. What is it? Yeah, I mean, it would be the greatest
Starting point is 00:17:41 prison golf team of all time, and I couldn't even imagine the putt-putt courses he could set up in these jail cells. He would come out a better putter than going in, for sure. Without a doubt. And I'm sure that would be the silver lining in this type of thing. But, like, seriously, felony charges on the line here, right? Yeah, yeah. So that's like actual jail time being negotiated.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Trying to take your father away from his son. I love that. A brand new baby. Yeah. A brand new sweet baby boy. He said, I got to go do this golf tournament. Okay. You sleep good for your mom.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Yep. You're a week old and that's impossible. He never came home. We want the deal. And the cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon. The little boy's got a man on the moon. When you're coming home, Scotty, we don't know when. District attorney's not a friend.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And we'll have a good time then. What a song, dude. Alright, let's talk. Scotty, we're pulling for you, buddy. Good luck. Good luck, Pacers. I got a $140 fine, community service, and
Starting point is 00:18:44 $40,000 fine from the Colts. $40,000 higher than $40. And the program, right? The program as well? Oh, yeah. 27 months in the substance abuse program, which was great. That was great. It did help me out.
Starting point is 00:18:54 A little redundant. You know, I think we're doing a baby too much. Sure. I think they could probably take the tractor another round on the investigation on how that needs to be. But, yeah, that was wild for me. Scotty is facing a felony, though. Yep.
Starting point is 00:19:04 How does the PGA handle that? Can you have a felony on the tour? That's an interesting... Do they just hands up? What about the international? Are they playing in Canada? Isn't that RBC? Yeah, I did see that. Because if you get a DUI, you can't even go to Canada.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I'm sure for Scotty, it's pretty easy to be like, oh, okay, no, I can't go play in Canada. Oh, no. A lot of people have been telling me, you two have been bashing Canada pretty good. Not at all. Very true. You actually said anybody but the Canadian team.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Yeah, and everyone who lives in the United States who's watching hockey right now, even the Canadian we got, he doesn't want to see any of the Canadian teams win either. I mean, so. Texas hockey, brother. Yeah, exactly. To Ty's point. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:19:43 If we don't get an answer about the American Revolution on why they didn't join us, then I don't want to. I do wonder why that is. And Gumby's not the person to ask because obviously school didn't happen for his brain, especially up there in Canada. Anytime we ask a question about Canada or Canadian history, there's no single thought of an answer. And I don't think – I've asked numerous Canadians,
Starting point is 00:20:03 like, what do you think, what happened in 1776? You guys just didn't want to join us? Were you fighting against us? Did they exist? Oh, yeah. I assume. Because they've still got the Queen stuff, right? So do you think the Queen came over after? After we lost? They go, oh, okay, we'll go take the cold ones, I guess. They gained their independence in
Starting point is 00:20:20 1982? Wow. Okay. Alright, see,, so we got questions. This can't be right. We got questions. They discovered Canada before because they came down the Hudson River, right? And this starts up in Canada, and then that's how they got there. Yeah, but Paul Revere was running his mouth a little bit, wasn't he, there at some point?
Starting point is 00:20:37 Yeah, but that's Paul, though. I mean, you can't put that on Revere. He had a lot of pressure. There's also a chance that they sent their best soldiers down to General George Washington's base, and he was like, yeah, you guys can go play in the field. We don't fucking need you guys. Take it easy. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:20:52 There's a chance. I don't know. I wasn't there. I wasn't around. Canadian people are great people. They are. I love them. Boom. There it is. Not only were some Anglo-Canadians inclined to side with the Americans, but French Canadians were divided. Huh. Gentry and clergy tended to support the government, but many of the The French, no?
Starting point is 00:21:11 Mm-hmm. Oh. Yeah, exactly. We did it. Good. England did. Yeah. England did. Yeah, they did. We, hold on.
Starting point is 00:21:31 We have not done a lot of like, hey, good stuff. Right. You guys can have it. You're welcome for your country, Canada. See, that's not the way to look at it. That's not the way. Canada's awesome. Hey, Canada, keep going, Canada.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Love you, Gump. We love you, Gumpy. Love you, Gump. Thank you for all the answers, Gump. Google, joining us now is an American boy. Amen. Playing a Canadian sport at a very high level. That's right. Currently a stud for the Florida Panthers,
Starting point is 00:21:55 who will take on the cockies of the New York Rangers in the Eastern Conference Finals of the NHL. Ladies and gentlemen, Matthew Kachuk. Chucky, good to see you again. Hey, we don't know a lot of Canadians. We don't know a lot of Canadians. I'm bummed out about it. I'm going to let you know because they all seem to have a great personality,
Starting point is 00:22:15 great attitude. Hockey feels like a lot of Canadians are involved. I think any time we talk hockey, we automatically just start, oh, hey, oh, you know, that whole thing. You guys do a lot of talk about the countries in which you guys are from there because it is a very diverse country locker room you guys have, right? Are those conversations that are had ever when the boys are maybe buzzing a little bit? Or how does kind of conversations about where everybody, speaking different languages than the shit in the NHL locker room? Yeah, well, first of all, thanks for having me on again, guys.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Okay, yeah, get to it. We're lucky to have you. Thank you. Thank you for joining us. Thank you. You don't have to thank us ever. We're lucky you're here. The only thing that I didn't like with the opening is you said Canada's game, which we're trying to, you know, not make that Canada's game anymore. We're trying to make it America's game. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:00 We've got a lot of winning to do, brother. I'll watch your mouth go. Check the stats on that one. I know that. Okay. I know Canada's won a lot of hockey games. I know that. Laska's, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Sidney Crosby was handing you guys Olympic gold medals up there. Great Canadian lad.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Anyways, hey, yeah, it's our sport now. Good job. Let's go. The next few years with the international events. But, yeah, our locker room is very diverse. A lot of Euros, a couple russians a lot of canadians and just a few americans so um i don't know i think everybody grew up playing uh playing different stuff growing up but obviously hockey is the common theme with everybody everybody speak english or no yes everybody speaks english yep
Starting point is 00:23:42 like even the guys that act like they don't publicly, they actually do? Yeah, I think that's just to get them out of media. Such a good play. Oh. Such a good play. Genius. If I was playing international, anything. I don't, sorry.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Can't compute. Yeah, maybe get a translator. Wait a minute. Oh, that's a good idea, Nick. Yeah, just make sure he's not a gambling addict. Make sure your best friend isn't either. Chuck, sorry we're wasting your time here obviously you got a lot to do we're in the eastern conference finals how do the boys feel how are the legs obviously we chatted with you last time going into a new series you have a battle with the bruins in fact hey
Starting point is 00:24:16 congratulations on a massive massive win over the boston bruins the team obviously the entire world has been following the last few years and you guys have been there kryptonite and back-to-back years, but how's the body feel? How's the team feel? And what are vibes as we roll into the Eastern Conference Finals? Yeah, it feels great. Everybody feels really good right now. We just had a very hard-fought, physical, demanding series against Boston. It was a little bit different from the Tampa series. That was a little bit more skating and high flying and offense. So we got the best of both worlds, beating both those teams, two of our biggest rivals. And now we're going into MSG and the Big Apple about to face the team that's the best team in the regular season and the best team in playoffs so far. So we are super excited for this challenge. The stage does not get any bigger than this.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And I'm just so looking forward to this. It's an unbelievable opportunity. We're back in the Eastern Conference Finals again. And hopefully we can do the same thing we did in the series last year. But it's going to be tough. The Rangers are playing unbelievable. They're so talented. And we're going to need everybody this round.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Okay. I love to hear everything that you're saying there. And the way you described your series with Boston, we'll certainly revisit whenever Connor has a question for you, but whenever you talk about going into Madison Square Garden and the stage and everything, you guys understand that as well. Everybody in every sport
Starting point is 00:25:35 seemingly gets Madison Square Garden. Like, WWE, when you're going into Madison, it's like, hey, it's Madison Square Garden. In basketball, obviously, the Pacers went in there and did some gardening in Game 7. It's like, hey, this is Madison Square Garden. Hockey feels the exact the Pacers went in there and did some gardening in game seven. It's like, hey, this is Madison Square Garden. Hockey feels the exact same way because of the history there and just because of the magnitude of it all? Yeah, I remember my first year.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I think I played there when I was, I think I was still 18. I don't think I was 19 yet, and I'm just enjoying the NHL. I'm thinking this is the coolest thing in the world. And my dad told me he goes you made it until you play an msg and i didn't realize what he meant until i played my first game there it's so special it's um the coolest arena it's a great city um they've got great fans it's so loud in there and i've heard that playoff hockey in in new in May, it's as good as it gets. So we're really looking forward to it.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I've actually been explaining to a couple of guys that aren't American, to your point earlier, like how special this place is. But everybody understands. Everybody knows that this place is incredible, and I'm sure it's going to be elevated that much more in playoffs. Hell, yeah. We can't wait to watch it all. And last question for me before the boys have some questions,
Starting point is 00:26:44 and we appreciate your time here. We had a graphic there that said Hockey Town in the making. Obviously, you talk New York City and hockey. You talk, okay, that seems like a hockey town. Sunrise, Florida, okay, now becoming a hockey town because of the team that you guys have right now in the runs that you guys have gone on over the last couple years. Obviously, you've created new fans.
Starting point is 00:27:04 We've got signs down on A1A, people driving down the beach florida panther hockey all the way down the entire yep here it is just right right next to the gulf the ocean uh is that the atlantic or gold that's the atlantic ocean so nobody's going in there but looking at it everybody okay all right all right hey a lot more respect have you watched any of the shows about what's in that thing the atlantic i mean you know better of the shows about what's in that thing, the Atlantic? I mean, you know, better than the goals. They live their life. Leave them alone, you know? Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do.
Starting point is 00:27:30 But I've seen them attack Shark Week. Don't touch their privates. Well, yeah, you can't touch their dongs. While you're down there near the Sharks, don't touch their private parts. Chuck, but, like, from my eyes,, hockey town's normally cold. And I just think to myself, it has to be impossible for you guys to generate as many hockey rinks down in 150 degree weather. Is your guys' ice like better than everybody else's because it's a fast track? Because it's worse? Is there differences in ice around the league?
Starting point is 00:28:01 Do you guys know that when you go in like grass for stadiums? Obviously, when you go to like grass for stadiums uh obviously when you go to this a fast track this is slow train this is this is muddy for football is it like that in the nhl when it comes to ice and how is your guys's ice ours is ours is awesome our rink is freezing um i don't know how they keep it that cold um i think honestly the worst ice surfaces in the league are the rinks that have to change back and forth from basketball to hockey and back and forth. So I guess it's kind of a good thing that the Knicks are out so they can just keep it. But I'm sure MSG's got concerts, so they're going to be changing that all the time.
Starting point is 00:28:36 But to your earlier point about the support we're getting down here in a hockey town, it's been incredible. I go to the beach every single non-game day, and the flags are out. People are, like, so supportive. They're wishing us luck. Yes, I do go in the Atlantic Ocean, and I haven't seen any shark hit knock on wood.
Starting point is 00:28:55 So, but the support everywhere, and all of Fort Lauderdale and Sunrise, just like all of Broward County, has been amazing. I'm so lucky to play. You go to the beach every other day. You all right? Are we losing our edge? Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Are we okay? You're a beach? Yeah, I go there every non-game day, so it's a good distraction. God, how nice would that be? Sounds pretty sweet. Beach, golf. You think about like the Dolphins players. I had a friend that went down there and punted for him or whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I got a FaceTime on like a Wednesday after practice. Him and his family were just sitting on the beach or whatever. I'm like, it's 14 degrees here. Yeah. I haven't even thought about going outside. You're on the beach every day. Yeah. Yeah, we got a house actually here on the beach.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Matt Overton goes down and plays for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Got a house on the beach. He's like taking photos of him running on the backyard. It's my new backyard. God, is that good? Is that good for free agency? Do you guys do a lot of free agency in hockey? Like, I feel like that's probably a good recruiting tool
Starting point is 00:29:51 that South Florida is becoming so supportive of hockey and obviously no state income tax. Is that a thing in hockey or are you guys normally locked into a place forever? No, free agency is a big part of hockey, I guess. I i mean it brought me down here that's for sure the team the city the uh your life outside of the rink but i mean at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:30:14 you attract the most players by a chance to win and our team's got that each and every year as i'm saying you combine that yeah oh my god a wagon is starting down in Sunrise. Look out. Let's go back to a cold-ass city that obviously has a great team. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Matt, I was curious just because of how hostile the Bruins-Panthers series was and how most of the NHL playoffs at this point, they are hostile series. But with the history between the Bruins and the Panthers, it was kind of elevated. Those handshake lines at the end of the series is there a lot of like is it all respect or are there some guys you you know you pass and it's just a quick little like hey go to
Starting point is 00:30:49 hell and then you keep moving to the next guy how was that with boston and are were there any you know were there ever any situations rather in those you know handshake lines where it does get a little testy no for the most, like it's all respect. I don't know. It's definitely better being on our side of the line than their side. I mean, I know when you lose a playoff series, that line is the worst thing ever. So for us, it was all smiles and just a lot of respect for them.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I mean, they're a hell of a team. And yeah, pretty much everybody on that team, you say, you know, great series or some guys a little bit more, some guys maybe a little bit less that you don't like. But I don't know. It's all respect after a playoff series, especially with how hard that series was. It was tough out there. So mutual respect, definitely.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Okay, so let's talk about that series. Let's talk about one of the moments in there. I think we'll all remember it because the two stars, you know, won't go yeah you you won't go yeah it's five one right here and you and pasta not only fight each other but the precursor to the fight and you get uh you definitely get the better of you you're ricky stenhouse jr he's kyle bush you are you're certainly getting the better of them in this and i think the big story coming out of this was, how about Posta fighting? And how about you fighting at that stage of that game at 5-1? Whenever you're making that decision and you guys are kind of chirping each other as you're going off the ice, game's over.
Starting point is 00:32:16 You're one of the stars of the team that is up 5-1. Why would you even get into a fight? And then Posta, your team's down 5-1. You're like best player on your team. Why would you get in? For you guys to do that, what is the mentality there? And how do the boys react to that afterwards? Obviously a win, not only of a fight, but also the game is probably a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:32:33 But is there a conversation after from the boys where they're like, hey, how about Chucky there? Hey, what about Posta? Like a couple of stick down. How is the reaction there? And what is the mentality of that whole thing? Looking back, I actually can't even remember how exactly I was feeling going into that, but I remember their bottom six guys were trying to start some stuff.
Starting point is 00:32:52 We scored on the penalty kill, so we had four guys out there. They had five, which I felt was an unfair scrum advantage. Me and Poston went over and talked to the refs, and while we were standing there, I just asked him if he wanted to fight. He no i'd rather fight next game and i'm like no we're fighting right now and he's like all right maybe and then he went back to the bench looked like he asked his coach if he can go fight or if he can go out next and then he looked at me um from bench to bench and said he was going out there and i looked at paul and I was like, I'm going. I think there was a little confusion because we were on the penalty kill and I don't do that.
Starting point is 00:33:28 So I just hopped out there and we fought. And I really don't think it was anything more than two guys just trying to knock each other out, to be honest. I know it was 6-1 at that time of the game. And you're trying to message to your teammates, to each other, like all that. You know, that's all, you know, good and stuff. But at the end of the day, we're going out there, and we're fighting at center ice.
Starting point is 00:33:51 We're trying to punch each other in the face. That's it. I love you guys. Pops loves you, too. Dude, hockey is awesome. You said dad loves you? Oh, yeah. Big Walt loves that.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Hey, he's all jacked up. I'm proud of the boy. Yeah, 6-1", who cares? He's going out there to try to knock pasta out. Yeah, that's all I'm trying to do. I love that. That's a Kachuk family motto, I assume? Yeah, I mean, he was happy for multiple reasons.
Starting point is 00:34:16 He got to see a good fight. He got to leave the game early, go to Elbow Room. So it was all going well. They got merch now. You know that. They're sending us merch up here because how much we talked about that I had no idea that Elbow Room's
Starting point is 00:34:27 got merch shout out to Elbow Room down there you're on to Lord Elrond Elbow Room you guys are all going to have to
Starting point is 00:34:33 come down for a game this round go to Elbow Room before do the whole parlay there so parlay Elbow Room right into the game at night
Starting point is 00:34:39 you guys will love to have all you guys it'll be an honor thank you for the invite it is so far it is you guys are so far down there isn't it it is a long trip you guys. It would be an honor to thank you for the invite. It is so far. It is. You guys are so far down there. Isn't it?
Starting point is 00:34:47 It is a long trip. You guys got to fly a long way every single time you fly back. I don't think people fully understand. South Florida is far. That shit is way down there. I'll be there Friday. You'll be in the barn. All right.
Starting point is 00:34:58 D-Bot will represent. D-Bot. Friday? What about the parade? Parade we could probably. It's Friday. 24. Yeah, we could definitely do elbow room for parade.
Starting point is 00:35:07 In Boston or in Florida? Well, they're not playing Boston. I mean, not Boston. You guys are on a plane probably heading to the beach. Nashville, actually. New York. We've got in New York tomorrow, Friday. It's just every other.
Starting point is 00:35:19 So first two in New York. Then so it's Sunday afternoon and Tuesday. Sunday. D-Butt knows. D-Butt's focused on today. I'll be here, Chucky. Don't you worry. We'll set you up on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:35:35 That'd be great. Let's go. Indy 500. Oh, no. Oh, shit. Then you can watch it, actually. What are we going to do? That game down in Florida.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Indy 500. Gee, I don't. That's a tough decision. You're right. D-Bud has a question for you, Chucky. D-Bud has a question for you, buddy. You talked about drawing in free agents. And, obviously, great, great team.
Starting point is 00:36:00 PK talked about you guys and how you guys change the game, make the ice smaller. But your coach, you know, most teams take on the identity of their coaches. Obviously, we've got Eric Spoelstra down there, Mike McDaniel down there with the Dolphins. How's Paul Maurice on a day-to-day basis with you guys? What's the vibe with him behind the scenes? Yeah, he's been great. He keeps it loose most of the time, but has that ability to really get the most out of each and every player. So I think some guys, you know, he does it differently with certain players.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I think that's a great trait to have as a coach. But he's got us fired up for this series coming up. And, yeah, we're all going to be ready for it, that's for sure. What are our practices? Are you guys going like last year whenever they said your body was duct-taped together and they were just, remember? Oh, yeah. They said they were standing this fucking guy up with his pads on and pushing him onto the ice he actually couldn't sit on a bench why because he couldn't stand back up yep so he just stood where the goalies were that that's basically how it's being talked about for you
Starting point is 00:36:57 is it like every let's just get to the next game at this point are we still going we still go pretty hard in practice yeah i mean when there's there's practice, it's pretty simple. It's quick. It's not too demanding. But in playoffs, it's really you just play games and that's it. So you pregame skate in the morning, play at night. The next day is a day off, recovery day. Try to get your body to feel as good as possible,
Starting point is 00:37:21 and then you play the next day. You guys have a big nap time, right? Isn't there a big nap time? I heard Boston Bruins, either the organization themselves... No, no, it was not the organization themselves. Okay. For the time being, we are saying it is not the Boston Bruins organization themselves or anybody
Starting point is 00:37:40 associated with any players or coaches or front office or ticket sales or chef. Nobody associated? Thank you. With any players or coaches? What? Or front office? What? Or ticket sales? What? Or chef? What? Any?
Starting point is 00:37:48 Nobody associated? Nothing. Nobody associated with the Boston Bruins called the fire or set off the fire alarm in the middle of your hotel? No chance. But somebody did. And this has happened potentially in NFL stuff before, whenever you're up in that New England area.
Starting point is 00:38:02 Is that, that nap time is designated? Everybody knows when there's like a break time for every team, and could that be a choreographed attack of another team potentially, like a city like Boston and their fans or organization could potentially do? Well, it happened at 2 p.m. on the dot with a little shady. Okay, okay. With a little shady. Okay. Okay. Just as we scripted.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Sorry, it's a hockey town. They know schedules. Nothing to do with the team. It's just fans being fans. Boston's. What time did you leave? Bingo. 1.30.
Starting point is 00:38:39 What do they say? If you ain't cheating, you're not trying there. So I guess they're not really cheating, but they're trying to get every advantage. I don't know. That stuff happens like very very rarely once in a while i actually have heard after that happened my my grandpa was a fireman um in boston for for years grandpa thank you papa he said that that would happen with the patriot like when they were they have the road teams and they're playing the Patriots. So maybe it's just a crazy coincidence, but, yeah, it woke me up in a full panic, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Okay, you got up left. Did the whole song and dance got out of the building? No, I went back to bed. But I woke up in a panic. Okay, yeah, there was a thought. Mm-hmm. Some asshole. Got it.
Starting point is 00:39:22 All right, yeah, I'm going back to bed. It's going to be tough to get back into The circadian Rhythm But that is like every NHL team pretty much In the afternoon, we got to break time in there Scheduled pretty much Yeah, yeah, but I think once Once that happened
Starting point is 00:39:37 Even though probably wasn't on purpose We'll just pretend it was Maybe it was, but I think right when that happened We knew we were winning that game. Hockey gods. Is that right, huh? You want to be a mass hole? Well, we'll go ahead and take this one, I guess, from Boston. That's what you guys get.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I mean, look, the better team won at the end of the day. That's just what happened. Well, good luck the rest of the way, Chucky, and we appreciate you for joining us. Tell the boys down there to keep skating hard. We want to do a parade, elbow room, the whole thing down there, pal. All right, boys. I appreciate you having me on. Hey, when are we going to a game? We got to actually get to a game.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Yes, Sunday or Tuesday. Love to have you guys. Maybe Tuesday if you got the Indy 500 on Sunday. Tuesday. I would be at that. Ladies and gentlemen, Matthew Kuchuk. Thank you, buddy. Tuesday down in Miami. Well, sorry, sunrise.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Where is this? Can we get a map? It feels like I'm back in Canada again. It's in the Fort Lauderdale area. It's kind of a city in Fort Lauderdale. Because Miami's down at the tip. Yes. Much more south. Broward is in between Broward County, and then you've got Palm Beach County.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Oh, stay away from there. I've heard Palm Beach. We, and then you got Palm Beach County. Oh, stay away. We know here. I've heard Palm Beach. We're not going there. Okay, so. Oh, no. Paul Skane's jersey's done. She's figuring it out. He's never worn that jersey.
Starting point is 00:40:52 She's figuring it out. I'm not going to talk about WNBA because I don't know everything. These two might be the greatest of all time. I have to watch these eyes. I just want you to know. She's figuring it out. That's right. Her team needs to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Wow. I got a big sport in this team. Skane's down again. Skane's is down. He's figuring it out. That's right. Her team needs to figure it out. Wow. I got a big sport in this team. Skeens down again. Skeens is down. He's figuring it out too. Yeah, he has figured it out. Some more hangers. So we're down here at Key Largo.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Then Miami. Yeah, that's all Miami down there. Hollywood, they got the casino. Yes. That's where the casino is. Seminole Hard Rock. Then Lottie Dottie. Mouth of the Rat.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Palm Beach. Where the hell is Sunrise?le Hard Rock. Then Lottie Dottie. Mm-hmm. Mouth of the Rat. Mm-hmm. Palm Beach. Yep. Where the hell is Sunrise? Zoom in on Fort Lauderdale, and you'll see it pop up. So it's like a little borough. It's in here. God, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Kind of like New York City. It's a borough. It's a caramel. You know, like. Okay. There's Coral Springs. There it is, Sunrise. Boom.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Right next to the left of Oakland Park. Inland. Yep. So you got the Everglades, and you go east Inland. Yep. So you got the Everglades. You go east to the beach. Don't go to the Everglades. Do not go in the Everglades. Hey, a team from this city beat Boston in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yeah, that's right. And what's crazier, too, is that they go in the playoffs before a team from Pittsburgh. All right. A lot of invasive species in the Everglades. Don't go in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we got like anacondas and shit. Yeah. Right? People just dumping animals? Pythons. G't go in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, what have we got? We got, like, anacondas and shit.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Right? People just dumping animals? Pythons. Gators. Gators. Crocodiles. Killing all the deer. And gators and crocodiles, by the way, don't have a life expectancy.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Did you know this? What's that? They don't die unless they have, like, diseases. Yeah, they're dinosaurs, right? Yeah, unless they have diseases or they get attacked. They don't have, like, hey, alligators live till age 100. That's why they're all so grumpy. They live so long.
Starting point is 00:42:28 That's right. That thing looks like it's about 10 years old. Nope, 120. Well, that and they got all those teeth and those toothbrushes. Boom. Piss me off too. Ladies and gentlemen, our next guest did not answer.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Classic NBA guy. Of course. What the hell? Hockey guys are on time. How many NBA guys do you think can play in the NHL? That's a great question. None. How many NFL guys can play in the NHL?
Starting point is 00:42:59 I mean, J.J. Watts are probably our best representative. Hutch. T.J. Watts. Jared Henry. Maybe like T.J. Watts. Terry Henry. Maybe like three. Tyreek Hill. Can T.J. or can Hutch skate? He's from Detroit.
Starting point is 00:43:11 I assume he can. I'm just assuming. Just going through Orlovsky's list. Linderbaum. Max Crosby. Kittle. I should probably make the list. Christian McCaffrey.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Jalen Ramsey. Darius Slay. Are we talking NHL? Yeah. Tyreek Hill. Tyreek Hill on skates. Holy shit. Apollo Anton Ono wouldn't have a clue what to do.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Trent Williams. Manute Boll got on the ice with the Tampa Bay Lightning once back in the day. It was pretty electric. He needed three skates, I heard. Yeah. Yeah. He skated over the track. Freeze burn.
Starting point is 00:43:41 That's right. Join us now, ladies and gentlemen. He's a big guy. He's right. Freeze burn. That's right. Join us now, ladies and gentlemen. He's a big guy. He's huge. Did you imagine the fuck he's thinking? Oh, my God. Dude, he's bringing it. 800 miles an hour.
Starting point is 00:43:55 He's cut down. He's actually, the boards are shaking on the backside on the fan. Put him in goal. Have him sit cross-legged in goal. Cut down a palm tree. Just have him hold it. Joining us now is a guy who definitely could not play in the NHL or the NFL, but he knows that.
Starting point is 00:44:11 And that's why we love him. Ladies and gentlemen, NBA vet and pundit and shitster, Austin River. Austin! Your tattoos on your hand always look... Go ahead. Your angels for me just get worse and worse, man. That's because I can't wait to get to the conversation. You know, some intros I try to build up
Starting point is 00:44:31 and really try to make them feel... For you, I just can't wait to get to the convo because I know something's coming out of that mouth that we're all going to love. I know that's the case. Yeah, I know that's the case, pal. I'm not even going to... Go ahead, man.
Starting point is 00:44:47 What? Is that Austin? You all right? I'm good, man. I had a moment there where I could have said something, but I let that go. I'm distracted by your dude wipe shirt. Look at you. Conque Fancy.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Look at you. Conque Fancy. Boom. On a shirt. Boom. It's a jersey. It's a kit, pal pal You ever heard of it? Boom
Starting point is 00:45:08 Boom Well That's me pal Soccer.com will have some merch in Thank you for pointing that out The white belt Who put that together? Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:16 With the white shoes Look at you Look at the white shoes This is my I'm actually wearing jeans On the field At TSD This is actually what I'm wearing
Starting point is 00:45:24 On the field For a soccer tournament, pal. A couple of those. You're dressed like, I don't even know, it's like NASCAR Ellen DeGeneres. Whoa! You son of a bitch! This is my soccer costume!
Starting point is 00:45:41 Oh my god. Alright, here we go. That's why we made the intro short. That's why we don't do a long build-up, Austin. Did you pick the Knicks to beat the Pacers? I did. I had the Knicks beating the Pacers in Game 7. But that was before half their team was injured.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Oh, wow. Here it comes. Here it comes. More wow-wows. You know, your dad obviously has had so much success. You played in the NBA forever. You've been around the game and the league for so long. Injuries are going to happen.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Like, it sucks. I don't like it. I don't like it at all. Jalen Brunson was fun to watch. The fact that we weren't able to see one more quarter of him play basketball. Whenever he got hurt, they were down 20 already, but he had been carrying the team. And Josh Hart, if his abs were all better, obviously he's going to play better. OG, if his hamstring wasn't pulled from playing every minute of every
Starting point is 00:46:27 single game for the last four months, it would have been great to see him. And obviously, Julie's right, it would have been fun. This Pacers team, though, has been mocked, ridiculed, made fun of. Celtics fans are already saying these four games, this thing's over. They get a massive win in the Garden, Game 7. This should be talked about. Do you have more respect
Starting point is 00:46:43 for this Pacers team at all, and how do you think they fare against the Celtics? Are they in as big a trouble as every Celtics fan seems to believe they are? I think Celtics fans are doing themselves a disservice. I think they're undervaluing and underappreciating the talent level of the Pacers, more so the depth, too.
Starting point is 00:47:00 First off, the Pacers are a dangerous team. They're highly confident. They're well-coached. They're highly confident. They're well coached. They're coming off winning a game seven in the Madison Square Garden. I know they had guys hurt, whatever, whatever. But like you said, that's a part of sports, man. It's not their fault. Those guys are all healthy over there, as another point.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And then you have guys tapping in, playing the best basketball of their careers. Obi Toppin, T.J. McConnell has been a force off the bench. Their depth, they have a lot of guys. They play at a high pace. And by the way, the Celtics are missing Porzingis, which is a big deal. So when you have Miles Turner and some other guys out there, they have a lot of mismatch opportunity. The Pacers could be problematic, man.
Starting point is 00:47:38 And I'll say this lastly. If they steal one of these games on the road, it could be trouble because we all know the Pacers at home are a whole different ball club. They don't lose at home. They have one of the best home environments in sports. That's right. And NBA basketball, at least. So, you know, this is something where, you know, the Celtics have to be careful because they've been playing this like lollygag basketball where they like give a game away.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And like they haven't really tapped in because they haven't had to. They can't do that versus the Pacers, man. People keep underappreciating this team. They just keep floating by. And if they go into another garden and do the same garden and shit they did last series, especially Game 7, look out. Don't let them steal one up there from the Boston folks. Build them up, Austin.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Please, build Pat up to make him believe that the Pacers can beat the Celtics. I would love for that to happen because in two weeks it'll be a whole different tune. Now to be clear, Austin, I have maybe seen every one of the Pacers games. Yeah, of course. But really pay attention to probably eight, seven, eight of them. Yeah, my last seven or eight. They've been playing good ball. Is this who this team was all year?
Starting point is 00:48:38 This Pacers team? And is Miles Turner shooting like Steph Curry all year? Is this the new thing? They were at the play-in. Remember, they got hot in the play-in and almost won that. And then people were like, that's when we were building Halliburton up to be the next best point guard of the league. And then there was this drop-off after All-Star break, which is strange because that's usually when you see teams tap in or players really get into their rhythm is after All-Star break.
Starting point is 00:49:01 We kind of saw the opposite. Halliburton was fighting some injuries. Then he got back and he wasn't quite himself. The team was kind of saw the opposite. Halliburton was fighting some injuries. Then he got back, and he wasn't quite himself. The team was kind of up and down. Then they acquired Pascal, and that didn't work right away, and people had questions about his fit. And then now here we are in the conference finals, and no one's questioning anything, and they're just getting into this rhythm.
Starting point is 00:49:17 As you know, man, sports is such a confidence thing. And when your whole team is feeling this confident, and the ball's rolling and you're in the conference finals, at this point, anybody can beat anybody. Now, I know the Celtics are favored, as they should. They're the superior team. But Indiana, you don't get to the conference finals by mistake. And they're a deep team, and they're very well coached, and they're highly confident. Okay, so let's talk. The last time they played was January. Is there anything from then to now? Two different teams or what? There so let's talk. The last time they played was January. Is there anything from then to now?
Starting point is 00:49:45 Two different teams or what? There are two different teams. The only issue, the only worry I have is if you are like a Pacers fan, right, Halliburton historically has not played well versus Celtics, and that's due to the Celtics have two of the best perimeter defenders in the NBA. They have Drew Holiday and Derek White are some of the better defenders in the NBA. They've guarded him very, very well. And then Boston's size at the guard spot is also an issue.
Starting point is 00:50:09 McConnell and those guys are great, but they're very small. Drew's a big guard. Derek White's a bigger guard. And then obviously you have Tatum and Brown. So that's going to be the thing. What Halliburton can do versus those guards, and then who does the Pacers have other than, I think, Naismith, might be the only guy in terms of a defensive guy
Starting point is 00:50:26 because the Pacers don't play a lot of defense. So that's the one issue that I see there. Naismith shot Don Jalen there. He only held him to 30. Also got drafted by Boston, so probably a little revenge. Only held him to 30s. What's so funny? No, you're saying only held it at 30 was crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:45 30 for any other NBA player is like you call your mom after and you're like, Ma, I had 30! You know what I mean? It's a big deal. It's the new basketball. It's the new NBA. People score 130, 140 points. It's all-star game scores. Jamal Murray scored 31 and Ant said he put him in handcuffs. Bingo. Locked up like Scotty
Starting point is 00:51:04 Scheffler. And he was wrong. I love Ant, but he did not put him in handcuffs. Bingo. Locked up like Scotty Scheffler. And he was wrong. I love Ant, but he did not put him in handcuffs. He was cooking that game. Now he did rip him at half court and took some cookies home with him. I'll give him that. But he didn't just lock him up for the whole game. That's the angle he had it at. In his mind, lock him up, keep it
Starting point is 00:51:20 moving. Don't show me the stats. I don't care. Then we're moving on. That Timberwolves team is the real deal. We'll certainly dive into that in a moment. Connor has a question for you, Austin. Yeah, Austin. It feels like you kind of just got into it a little with the guard play the Celtics have, but what do you think Joe Mazzulla's game plan is for the Pacers? Then also, how much time
Starting point is 00:51:36 do you think Mazzulla was putting into the Pacers before the series was over? Is that something NBA coaches do? Was Mazzulla kind of having a game plan for the Pacers and the Knicks? Is he focusing on them completely after game six? Good question.
Starting point is 00:51:52 The head coach will always focus on the task at hand. His job was to beat the Cavs. Even as the Cavs series was just starting, the other assistant coaches, they'll split it down the middle. They're watching every possible outcome of every team that they could play. That way when the scout comes, it's just not like they have to start from scratch.
Starting point is 00:52:08 They already have stuff rolling. With the Pacers, man, the biggest thing with them is it's in the name, Pacers, is their pace of play. If they can control the pace at which the Pacers play, it changes the game. When Halliburton has that ball flying up and down and that team running, they can be very difficult to beat just due to stamina alone. They will wear you down. McConnell's picking you up full court,
Starting point is 00:52:33 turning you four or five times before you get to half court. When they dictate pace and speed it up, they're a dangerous team. So I look for that to be the key in games one and two, is them controlling pace. And then just coming out with high energy, you got to think like the Pacers have to be like emotionally just on a high right now. It's very hard to like switch gears and go right into the garden and compete.
Starting point is 00:52:55 Celtics have to take advantage of that, especially game one. Just due to like, there's a lot going on right now. If you're a Pacers player, you just wanted the garden a couple of days ago. Now you're like playing in a different Garden, playing the Celtics. It's going to take them a game or two to settle in. I wouldn't be surprised. Game one, at least. Yeah, but T.J. McConnell's there.
Starting point is 00:53:14 That's true. I mean, look, we got a small white off the bench, too, by the name of Peyton Pritchard that you need to look out for, brother. No, he needs to look out for T.J. McConnell. He's staring T.J. McConnell right in the face. What a prime matchup. Yes. What are you saying? Huh? What are you saying? What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:53:29 Austin, prime matchup. Similar players. I'm a fan of both of their games, and they both have the same demographic and size and height and everything, and everything's there. Boom. You want me to point it out? Yeah, I went to the demographic. You're damn right I said it.
Starting point is 00:53:45 You know what we're all thinking. Some people are calling Peyton Pritchard the next T.J. McConnell. What? Yeah, that's all I'm saying. Why are they saying that? Because he's a junkyard dog. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:53:59 McConnell's got more dog in him in terms of a defender. Peyton Pritchard's a much more talented offensive player. Much more. Much more. Tell them. More talent? T.J.'s floating through the sky in terms of a defender. Peyton Pritchard's a much more talented offensive player. Much more. Much more. Tell him. More talented. TJ's floating through the sky in the paint. Delayed jumper. Wait till you see him. Huh? He's floating
Starting point is 00:54:15 below the rim. It's not in the sky. What are you saying? Are you just saying, we get it. He's white, Austin. Is that what you're saying? He's a white man? Got it. White guys have ups. Mike McClung.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Claim to fame. Don't contest him. Hey, man. Let's make sure we remember that. We will certainly do that. What's this? This is the white? This is Boston's white?
Starting point is 00:54:38 He was born to live in South Boston and play basketball with a green jersey wearing number 11. I'm just telling you that right now. He was made to be a Boston Celtic. He got paid this off. Bro, welcome to the McConnell Penitentiary, bub. Uh-uh. Are they going to have them match up against each other? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:54 They might take the opening tip against each other. It's ruled. Sounds pretty racist. Opening tip. Now you guys are mocking. Whoa. Us? You're the racist guy that started this entire conversation.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Racist? I'm mixed. I'm multicolored. I got a flag. When the police pull me over, they don't know what they're looking at. They don't know what I am. Especially in Louisville. Scotty's mixed too. I saw that. North African and Sheffler? Middle Eastern.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Yeah, I think so. Scotty Sheff, too. I don't know if you saw. I saw that. North African. Sheffler? Middle Eastern. Yeah, I think so. Scotty Sheffler's North African? Yeah. Middle Eastern. He's 5'6", 3'1", 70. I don't like that. I don't like anything. I don't like when people do that.
Starting point is 00:55:36 I don't like when someone that looks like Adam, they put anything African in there. Something about that. About Adam. Adam and Eve? Who is that? Adam Schefter? We're talking about Scotty Scheffler, the golfer. Oh, I thought you said Adam.
Starting point is 00:55:52 Okay. Adam Schefter. Adam Schefter, a little North African. I don't like clever guys like that. Yeah, look right there. Zoom in there. Can we zoom in on that? White, Europe, North African,
Starting point is 00:56:06 Middle Eastern. That's on his license. That's just the.01%. I can see a little bit of the Middle Eastern. No, that's not the name of it. Hey, Austin, we've got to get to a hard hour. What a time. It always is, isn't it? Thank you for coming on the Ellen DeGeneres show.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Huh? Shut up. Alright, here's my ladies and gentlemen Austin Rivers. I enjoy him a lot. Yeah. I don't like when people do that. That looked like Adam. He thought we were talking about Shepard.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Yeah, I thought he was so good. I thought he was talking about Adam and Eve too. Yeah, I thought he was saying back to the orgs. That's what Connor thought too. I didn't know if Adam was white or not. I have no idea. Hey, I thought he was saying, like, back to the origin. That's what Connor thought, too. Yeah. I didn't know if Adam was white or not. I have no idea. Hey, that's a great NASCAR shirt you got on. Thank you, brother.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Rainbow Warrior. He needs to not see Stan Haas Jr. Senior. They're fired up. Sports! The greatest thing on Earth, and two of the biggest sports leagues on earth are currently in their conference final era. Yeah, it is the heiress tour for these tournaments, and we're at the conference finals.
Starting point is 00:57:12 One step before the league championships, the NBA is obviously all set and ready to go. In the West, it's the Dallas Mavericks, led by Luka and Kyrie Irving, taking on the Minnesota Timberwolves. Ant-Man, Rudy Gobert, Carl Anthony Towns, Dallas Mavericks led by Luka and Kyrie Irving taking on the Minnesota Timberwolves. Ant-Man, Rudy Gobert, Carl Anthony Towns, and a team that is filled with a bunch of dogs who slap the floor before every defensive stand. And in the East, it's the Boston Celtics who everybody says is supposed to be in the finals.
Starting point is 00:57:39 They've been saying this for months. If they don't end up in the finals, it's a complete failure. Whenever people were talking about NBA teams that were good this season, they actually didn't even talk about the Boston Celtics because they said it's not even worthy of discussion. The Celtics need to be in the finals. They are going to be representing the East. Well, now they've got to stare down little old Indianapolis. The Indiana Pacers, after
Starting point is 00:57:55 knocking off a very game New York Knicks team, they tried their best. That Knicks team, they gave it their best. They were honorable. Bunch of try-hards. They tried their hardest, yes. Found a new favorite player, maybe, that's not on Pacers. Dee Vincenzo.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah. Love this guy's fade, like his moxie, like his jumper. He needs to come to the Pacers immediately, and if not him, what the Jalen Brunson, I guess. Sure. You know, if that's how it's going to have to go, I guess we would. Yeah, give us Hartenstein. And we learned a lot about this particular season that we could have never known.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Nope. But the Pacers are ready, the Celtics are ready, and the NHL. Last night, Game 7 in Western Canada proved that the Oilers are ready to be in the Western Conference Finals against the Dallas Stars, who are looking to be the favorites. Looking to be the favorites. And then in the East, we have the New York Rangers, who have been fantastic thus far in the playoffs. Start out 7-0. Win their first series against Washington, 4-0.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Then they go up 3-0 against Carolina Hurricanes. Takes a couple more games. They've been resting. But if they go 7-0 to start this entire thing, and they don't win the Stanley Cup, they would just be one of four teams out of the last 12 teams that have done that. That would be a big letdown, but they're taking on a Florida team down there in
Starting point is 00:59:08 Sunrise, Florida that's ready for the action boss. They spend their off days on the beach getting in some vitamin C, getting some relaxation, and they go on the ice and they bust ass just like they did to the Boston Bruins led by Kachuk who was just on the show earlier. Cool guy. Very cool guy. Very cool guy. Mask guy.
Starting point is 00:59:23 A lot of cool guys. Yeah, talk to the the Tables here at Boston Corner at Ty Schmidt. You're worried about Celtics. I know it. That thing starts tonight. You guys are 10.5-point favorites. Let's see how it goes. Yeah, not worried at all. Minus 130 to win the whole thing, which is absurd.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I think you should probably maybe sprinkle on one of those Western Conference teams. Just don't sprinkle on the Pacers because they are going to get killed. You heard what Austin Rivers just said. Hey, your best player, yeah, he sucks against the Boston Celtics. So, yeah, I don't know how it's going to go. We have other players. That's the thing about the Knicks. Alright, we have
Starting point is 00:59:54 depth. You see, we got talent. We got guys with black belts, I think, in Kung Fu. You know what? You're right. If Tyrese Halliburton can't do it against Drew Holiday or Derek White, I bet McConnell can. Mm-hmm. Bingo.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Boom. That's what I've been saying this whole time. Well said. Spicy P, Miles Turner, one half of the hammer. Dad. Cowboys, Tone Diggs. Wearing a NASCAR shirt. You're in a racing mood.
Starting point is 01:00:15 We've got a big race weekend coming up. Yeah, it's race season. I mean, I drive by 1,000 checkered flags every day, so it maybe just kind of put me in the mood. And also, this Rainbow Warrior shirt, I ordered it three months ago got delivered this week so i had to put now is this a big day though you have moved away from the cowboy hat snap back backwards yeah i uh i was five minutes before the show and gumpy said hey i like that hat a lot maybe you should keep it on for the show so i said okay that's fine i i get my marching orders from the other half of the Hammer Down Boys, so here we are.
Starting point is 01:00:45 That's the other half of the Hammer Down Baseball Cap Boys. Gumpy, is this a new era here of tone, or are we a little bit worried we just moved into one here? Is the cowboy era done? No, I just mix it up today because it's so beautiful outside. The color, I mean, it's just beautiful. Those cowboy hats get heavy. They do get heavy.
Starting point is 01:01:02 They look so cool, though. They're such a good look. Super cool. I have all my felt ones here. I don't have my straw one in here heavy. They look so cool, though. They're such a good look. Super cool. I have all my felt ones here. I don't have my straw on in here yet. It's very hot outside today, so it just wasn't. Yeah, you need your summer hat. Yeah, summer cowboy hat.
Starting point is 01:01:13 I want to let you know it looks good. It might be time to let the world know that you've been letting your hair grow, too. Maybe. We're close. I mean, there's people out there who do light ranching who make really good music, who we've talked to a few times who only wear hats and don't wear cowboy hats. Yeah, and there's a lot of country musicians
Starting point is 01:01:33 that wear the regular hats. We have a guy in his office who has great hair and chooses to wear a hat every day. Such bullshit. And Bruce Brown. Ballcat Bruce. But there are people wondering, I guess, like, who is that man?
Starting point is 01:01:44 That is, if you're looking at this, that is one half of the hammer down his tongue digs. People are saying, is that the same guy we don't see the cowboy at? And that is his tongue digs. Just make sure there we got his tongue digs there. Bottom right, okay. That's not how you spell it. Yeah, he's no longer one half of the hammer. Dad.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Cowboys. It's just the boys now. Oh, I like that. No. Yeah, he's no longer at one half of the Hammer. Dad. Cowboys. It's just the boys now. Oh, I like that. No, no, he's there. One half of the Hammer. Dad. Boys. Tone Diggs, who no longer is Cowboy.
Starting point is 01:02:14 That is Tone Diggs. That's not how you spell my name either. Yeah, Diggs with an S, but his social media is with a Z because somebody got the S1 over it. Yep. Nine-year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler is here. Big one for F1 this weekend. Monica, this is the one.
Starting point is 01:02:26 If you've never seen F1 before, this is the weekend to watch. Exactly. No, no. I firmly disagree with that. We'll be, once again, a great Saturday, but you're better off watching the Indy 500 this Sunday. Can watch both. F1's in the morning, then IndyCar will be in the afternoon.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Cannot watch in Indianapolis, though. That's the thing, unless you go to the race. Every other city in the United States of America and the world will be able to see the Indy 500, but not those of us here that don't go to the race, which will certainly be a bummer, but I'll watch the replay 7 p.m. Bingo. I'll watch the replay 7 p.m. I'm going to stay off the internet so nobody tells me what it is,
Starting point is 01:02:56 but you watch that F1 in the morning, and then you think to yourself, is this the best race in the world? And then you watch the Indy 500, and you go, is this the one? And then at night, you've got the Coca-Cola 600 that you can go watch that Kyle Larson will be racing in the one? And then at night, you've got the Coca-Cola 600. That's right. That you can go watch. Kyle Larson will be racing in both, actually. He's 1,100 miles racing.
Starting point is 01:03:11 So you've got a showcase of all the racing. Let's see who's the best. We'll judge it strictly off what happens on Sunday. Exactly. Perfect. Damn. It's going to be tough for F1, but hey. Look, you said it's the Super Bowl. If I were to try and get someone to be a fan of the football,
Starting point is 01:03:24 I would say, hey, watch the Super Bowl with us, and then maybe you'll like it. If this is what the F1 Super Bowl is, as it is built. In the IndyCar, it's their Super Bowl. Bingo. And the same thing. Hey, watch the Indy 500. NASCAR should have Dayton at night.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Yes. They should have their Super. It should be Dayton up there. I mean, Coke 600, nothing to sneeze at, but it's not Dayton. I mean, 600 mile race. What about Dega? I mean, Coke 600, nothing to sneeze at, but it's not Daytona. I mean, 600 mile race. What about Dega? I mean, can we throw Dega? They should put Derby on this day, too.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Just racing every, like, the biggest race. It should be race Sunday. That'd be sick. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Exactly. F1 Super Bowl starts it all off. Yep. Here you go.
Starting point is 01:04:00 This is what we judge the rest of this off. This is the one. Get it out of the way. Okay, let's watch that. Then maybe those ponies run. Okay, congrats to the ponies. Young ponies. Maybe we get Breeders' Cup in there, actually.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Oh, that's a better idea. Yeah, get the Breeders' Cup ones that are the fastest horses in the world. Then you go right into the Indy car right in the afternoon, 5 Indy 500. And then you go into Daytona, and all of a sudden you just got racing Sunday. This is it. Holy shit. Why don't they do that? Why haven't they been doing that?
Starting point is 01:04:24 Join us now as a guy that can make it happen. President of Ohio College Football National Champion. Super Bowl champion. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Haw. AJ, how do you feel about Big Race Sunday that we're trying to create here even though it feels like nobody's going to listen? That sounds pretty amazing. If you kick it off with that F1 race,
Starting point is 01:04:40 I think it kind of sets the tone for everybody. Gets us all juiced up. We get to see the most exciting stuff right out of the gate. Absolutely. As I send a Zoom link to our guests who are supposed to be joining us in a matter of moments. Sorry about that, Jason. Do you think no one's going to listen because no one would watch? No one will watch what? Big race Sunday.
Starting point is 01:04:57 See, I disagree. I think everybody would be looking for the rubber to burn. Yeah, and plus it'd be like, okay, I just have to do this for one day out of the year and then I don't have to worry about this shit for the rest of the year. I think I do wonder what ratings would be if it was just from beginning to end, Big Ray Sunday. You know, because there's...
Starting point is 01:05:12 What events this weekend in golf? The RBC Canadian thing? Is that what it is? No. Charles Schwab Challenge, brothers. Okay, so this is one that probably, you know, after the PGA Championship, we assume is going to be a little bit of a letdown. Blocky in it, though.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Is he? Oh, shit. Short course for him, too. I think he's a favorite. Need two TVs. AJ. I read that somewhere. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:34 You know there's different books everywhere. A lot of sports books with a lot of different odds. I don't think anybody that is a successful sports book is putting Blocky's odds on favorite. With that being said, you can go check out the odds at ESPN. You never know. Scotty's the favorite. Please do it. Check out the odds. Not a lot of people are doing it. No.
Starting point is 01:05:53 You should check it out. Michael Block is coincidentally the longest favorite in the field. He is a favorite. He's one of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Okay. So any game that has odds on, are you going to say that the other team is the second favorite to win this? Now I am. Runner-up favorite, yeah. Super optimistic about it all? Absolutely. Like the Pacers, for instance.
Starting point is 01:06:20 They'd be the last favorite. Okay, yeah. Pacers are okay. We've talked a lot of basketball. We'll talk more here in a matter of a few moments. Let's talk a little bit about NFL. OTA started yesterday, but they started weeks ago. We all know that.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Organized team activities officially launched yesterday, and it feels like all the stars are out. We've got videos from Aaron Rodgers throwing over there in New Jersey to Garrett Wilson on a little drag route across. Look at his running. Look at his drop back. Smooth, confident, poised. Robert saw this thinking to himself, thank fucking God this guy is back on the field
Starting point is 01:06:55 because with him we have hope and optimism. Without him, boy, it is doom and gloom time around here. Love what the Jets are doing. There's more videos coming out from Aaron Rodgers today where he was doing calisthenics, really working that Achilles, and he looked great. How about Kirk Cousins to Kyle Pitts, who's considering this a super rookie season, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:13 having to learn another playbook, learn a different offense in a different time with Kirk Cousins throwing rocks all over the yard. You think hands are going up and through for the corner? Yeah, good on him for taking care of his teammate right there, huh? Being a pro right there. Learn how to practice early in the league. That's a great rep. Good rep for the offense, but I think defensively,
Starting point is 01:07:31 he takes them to the ground in the game. Tried to punch that out. If you were to punch through that and they both end up on the ground, one person's going to get yelled at, and it's not going to be Kyle Pitts because he was a top-ten draft pick. He's a tight end. So they're going to try to make that work. I believe we had other eyes on the field around.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Here's the Chargers. Justin Herbert spinning it to Ladd, I do believe. Ladd McConkie, obviously. People are saying he's the next Cooper Cupps strictly because he's a white male who plays wide receiver in Los Angeles. We'll continue to update as the OTA videos roll through our social media teams. Joining us now is a man who played in the NBA for 22 years. A long time.
Starting point is 01:08:10 He called games fantastically for TNT this year. Ladies and gentlemen, Jamal Crawford. Yeah! Jamal! What's up, y'all? What's good? Hey, congrats on a hell of a season on the microphone, pal. I know you're not calling any more games.
Starting point is 01:08:23 You did great. Yeah. I appreciate it. Congrats on a hell of a season on the microphone, pal. I know you're not calling any more games. You did great. Yeah. I appreciate it. It was crazy because not only being up there with the legends, but just like Kevin Holland's the voice of 2K. You know what I'm saying? They're like the soundtrack of basketball as we watch it, as we play it.
Starting point is 01:08:41 So to be up there with them and then be gracious enough to allow me to be up there was really cool. Yeah, really cool and really good games. It felt like and really good series and really good stories. Let's start in the West. Let's chit-chat about the West. This Minnesota Timberwolves team has become, you know, a sensation. Every clip of Anthony Edwards speaking, whether it's in a locker room at a press conference, is going viral.
Starting point is 01:08:57 People say, this guy's a new face of the league. This guy's entertaining. He's funny. He's a dog. What is his hat? He doesn't give a shit about what anybody has to say. Do you feel like that's one of the biggest stories of the NBA, not only through this playoffs, but through the entire season as a whole?
Starting point is 01:09:11 This Minnesota Timberwolves team seems to be like America's darling at this point. They are because they're the underdog, but they have a face with him. And it's crazy watching them in person. His fearlessness gives the whole team fearlessness. Like, they all believe they can do anything. He gives a certain swagger and a certain confidence. And he's authentic. And we all connect to what's real.
Starting point is 01:09:30 You know what I'm saying? So he's very, very authentic. His game is loud. He can keep you on the edge of your seat. He takes the challenge. He's a dog, but he's leading a pack of wolves as well. And I mean that, like, sincerely because, yes, the Timberwolves, but they roam as a pack.
Starting point is 01:09:47 They cheer for each other. If you watch their interviews, even him, he's always bigging up somebody else. The next person is always talking about the next person. And for them to be as good as they are, they get after you. I don't think I've gotten this. I saw one Minnesota Timberwolves game, but it was vastly different than what it is now whenever we were out there for the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Lil' John was performing at halftime. That was the big story of the game. Lil' John brought it. Still had his fastball. Now, you just brought up something there. He's a dog who's leading a pack of wolves at the Timberwolves. Are they howling in there? How's the atmosphere? I assume it's pretty absurd.
Starting point is 01:10:22 We were in Denver, and it felt like we were in Minnesota towards the end of the game because they're becoming the darling. Like you said, people have to respect what they're doing. They play hard-nosed basketball. They're coaches. He's out there. He's on one leg. He's still behind the bench barking and encouraging them.
Starting point is 01:10:39 So they're special. They play as hard as any team I've seen in person in the playoffs. A lot of teams go on offensive runs. They go on defensive runs. That's why I asked them, who's their third best offensive player? They're spitting out names. It's this person, it's that person. I said, no, it's their defense. Once they get stops, they can go on a run
Starting point is 01:10:56 that is special. They can go on seven, eight, nine stops in a row and they're scoring on the other end when everybody's involved. Rudy Gobert is hitting turnaround jumpers. Let's not get crazy. Wee-wee. Oh, it's over.
Starting point is 01:11:08 When he's doing that, Pat, it's over with. We know when he's hitting turnarounds and going off the glass with the filet and hitting free throws, like, it's over. Hey, Anthony actually said that. Once I saw Rudy Gobert hit the turnaround jumper, I thought we were okay. I thought we were going to be okay. After the game, there was a moment between you and Carl Anthony Towns and Anthony Edwards that obviously garnered a lot of attention on the internet.
Starting point is 01:11:28 What were you saying here? I assume you're just talking about how proud you are of both these dudes. Is that the conversation there? How close do you get to a full series? Yeah, because I actually play with Cap, and we went to the playoffs at the time. It was the first time in 14 years in Minnesota I went to the playoffs. And I was just telling him, like, bro, right now the way you're playing is winning basketball.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Like, it's bigger than numbers. You're doing every little thing. We know you're a star. We know you can get 30 at any time, but you're doing the little things to help win. I was just proud of him. And me and Ant go back. I was talking to him a couple years ago, and I told him during text, like,
Starting point is 01:11:59 hey, it's your time now. This was a couple years ago. And he was like, man, he was only 20 at the time. And so I'm like, fast forward. I said, I told you, it's your time now. This was a couple years ago. And he was like, man, he was only 20 at the time. And so I'm like, fast forward. I said, I told you, it's your time now. I said, but now you're like the voice of the young person. The young generation is coming up, right? And I'm like, you got to keep pushing the game forward
Starting point is 01:12:14 because this is your opportunity. And he was like, I got you. But I remember just the text we exchanged a couple years back. So it's been dope to watch his growth as well. Yeah, hey, good eyes. He's got a scout. He's got a scout. He's got a good eye.
Starting point is 01:12:24 He knows what he's looking for. Need a space jam out of Ant soon. Yeah. good eyes. He's got a scout. He's got a scout. He's got a good eye. He knows what he's looking for. Need a space jam out of Ant soon. Yeah. Next generation. Uh-oh. I see what you're doing, Pat. I see what you're doing. Yeah, he's not going to –
Starting point is 01:12:32 Hey, it's going to be better than the last one. He's a – They're not going to go back-to-back with bad ones, but he is also a thespian. He is great. He's a great personality. Go ahead, AJ. So tonight Pacer's taking on the Celtics.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Is there one or two matchups that you're trying to focus on that you think are pivotal in this matchup? And does this Pacers team have to shoot 78% from the field to win in the playoffs? Do you feel like they have multiple different ways to win? We have, just by the way. They do have multiple different ways. They're known to go up and down the court and play with speed. But I think what Pascal Siakam has brought to them is somebody who's a three-level scorer, somebody who can play in the
Starting point is 01:13:07 half court. When things slow down in the playoffs, he can go get you a bucket. People forget he's a champion, so he knows what it takes. I feel like there's a moment of truth in every game, and that's where the moment can go. It can go from 10 to 20. It can go from 10 to 2, and he understands that moment of truth. I've got to be more
Starting point is 01:13:23 aggressive. If you look at his last game, he had 11 in the first quarter and only ended with 20. But he knew as a veteran presence to set the tone. I need to be confident and comfortable to get these guys confident, and he did that. For the Celtics, I think, honestly, their biggest opponent is them. What I mean by that is this.
Starting point is 01:13:40 When they're up by 20, the ball's moving, everybody's touching it, it's all good. When they get in tight games, that's when they start going one-on-one. The offense falls down and then the other team has a chance. So they got to beat the disease of me as far as like I'm going to be the guy to beat. It's got to be a team thing for them. If they can do that, they'll be in good shape. A lot on Missoula's shoulders, keeping the boys team-oriented.
Starting point is 01:14:01 It seems like they have been, though, because the conversation has been, are they, this team, are they going to be able to go? Just know that they will shoot 78% if they have to. That's Indiana Pacers basketball. D-Bot's got a question for you, Jamal. Yeah, speaking of, you know, we've kind of had errors in the NBA, a big three error. I feel like we're
Starting point is 01:14:17 kind of in that big two error with some duos. We've got some great duos left with the final four. Obviously, Brown, Tatum, and Boston. Kyrie, Luka, Halliburton, it could be Miles, it could be Spicy great duos left with the final four obviously brown tatum and boston kairi luca you know halliburton it could be miles it could be spicy p uh who is the best duo right now obviously and cat who you're close with who's the best duo right now going forward you kind of you know put a ticket on i would say the best duel could be i would go in cat i'm thinking kairi and luca as well because i think they're honestly the most skilled backcourt ever.
Starting point is 01:14:47 But I think Ant and Cat have it figured out. And they have it figured out that Ant, you didn't even know he was 6'24". Because the energy he plays with, the enthusiasm he plays with. And they know who they are. Like, they really don't care. They don't give a crap about nothing. And I love that about them. Like, they really do not care.
Starting point is 01:15:05 They're so fearless. And they don't know what they don't give a crap about nothing, and I love that about them. They really do not care. They're so fearless, and they don't know what they don't know, and I think that's a gift for them as well. So I'm going to go with Kyrie and Ant-Man right now. Okay, so let's stay in the West. Go ahead, Ty. Yeah, Jamal, speaking of Kyrie, obviously right now everyone's very high on the T-Wolves, and for good reason. They beat the defending champs.
Starting point is 01:15:21 They look great. They have all these guys who we're kind are starting to learn more and more about now. On the other side with Dallas, Kyrie, he's obviously been a lot more of a leader and kind of taking a backseat to Luka. Do you think the Mavs can win this series if he continually is only scoring anywhere from 9 to 15 points a game like he did in the last couple games against Oklahoma City? Or is he going to have to kind of expand his scoring output?
Starting point is 01:15:47 Like, is he going to have to start going for 30 in some of these games for Dallas to be able to beat Minnesota? I think right now he's playing possession basketball. And what I mean by that is he's just playing the possession. Like, if it costs him to make a pass, he'll do that. If it costs him to score, he'll do that. Oh, okay, it's the moment of truth. Let me go get 10 straight like only I can. And it's going to be a loud, he'll do that. If he calls him to score, he'll do that. Oh, okay, it's the moment of truth. Let me go get 10 straight
Starting point is 01:16:05 like only I can. And it's going to be a loud team where it feels like 20 because Kyrie's a magician. I think it's going to take some of both because to beat Minnesota, you've got to be able to score. They have multiple defenders. They're connected defensively. And it's going to be Anthony Edwards matching up with him, but he's going to see five different sets
Starting point is 01:16:21 of eyes. So he's going to have to have a score on Burks for sure. I think a little bit more consistent to beat them than he did last series, but he's also going to have to be able to trust as well when he gets three people to drop it off. I think he's at a place mentally where he's making that play every single time, but to your point, he's going to have to score more this series
Starting point is 01:16:37 if Dallas is to win. Let's talk about Indiana high school legend. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Jamal, it's not 22 seasons, but Mike Conley is getting up there. And all the talk is obviously about Ant and Cat and Gobert, but what do you think Mike Conley brings as a
Starting point is 01:16:51 veteran who I believe was traded halfway through last year to Minnesota? What do you think he's done for the team this whole season and that playoff run? He's been one of the most underrated. I played against him in the playoff series, actually, with Memphis. When he was with Memphis, I was with the Clippers. Oh, yeah, 1990, what was that?
Starting point is 01:17:06 That was... Oh, here you go. Here you go, Pat. Here you go. I didn't know. I was trying to remember. It was in... It was kind of like... It was like 620, was it? Yeah, I could barely see the TV. Yeah, we... It was still black and white. But, no, he brings another coach on the
Starting point is 01:17:22 court. I think he brings what Fisher brought to Kobe. I mean, obviously he's a vet, and Fisher and Kobe are the same draft class, but he brings a calmness to them. He's somebody who can be like, nah, not right there, right there. You got to look at this read. You got to make that read. He brings a calmness to their team.
Starting point is 01:17:37 I think one of the only games they got blown out in the series, this last series against Denver, he didn't play. And he's like a stabilizer. He can feel when things are not going right. He can feel like, okay, we need to look for this. And he can feel who hasn't gotten the rock a little bit or what they need to do. So I think Mike Conley is better than his numbers.
Starting point is 01:17:52 He's always been one of the best teammates. He's always been one of the best leaders. I just love who he is as a person. And guys like him make your whole organization better, not just the team. What is it, the Good Guy brand? What was the – Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Good Guy finish first Is his brand I think It makes sense It seems like everybody He's been in a long time dude Long time Had a full career in Utah You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:14 Now here we go I just saw that jumper Pat Me and you getting a shootout I'm not sure I may treat you like I'm going to do Gilly When I play him That jumper looked
Starting point is 01:18:21 Kind of funny right there Pat Oh that's because It was my left hand Because I was doing dribbling. Of Conley. He shoots right-handed floaters, though, Pat. You have the freedom to shoot that right when you're doing a floater. Okay, well, I'm strictly right-handed shots.
Starting point is 01:18:36 Me and B-Stew doing the same shit. Hey, listen. Do you know much about the W? I assume you do. Yes, I know something about it. Brand new. Brand new. So I'm not talking know much about the W? I assume you do. Yes, I know something about it. Brand new. Brand new. So I'm not talking too much about it.
Starting point is 01:18:49 Too new. What you got? Yeah, exactly. Too new. Too new. Growth of the game. You have a platform you have, you say to me. Okay, all right.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Get in. Okay, I'm sorry. We need more time. Sorry. Fever has got the next one. Okay? It's in our city. I am going to watch.
Starting point is 01:19:04 This Liberty team, I know they lost to the Aces in the championship. Congrats. We love the Aces. It's a good team, too. We love the Aces. We love a great team. Looking for the three. Kelsey Plum, friend of the program. How does this Liberty team lose? They've got three giants underneath.
Starting point is 01:19:23 LeBauley, Jones, and Bistu underneath. They were taller, more physical, seemingly more talented than everybody else on the court. And they were 7 to 10 inches taller than everybody on the court. And then you've got Sabrina doing no looks. Look at this. In her fresh new shoes that are nasty. The beast who fought. And that isn't obviously the only play beast.
Starting point is 01:19:48 I think she had 36 points or something in this game. She was hitting step backs. She was blocking. It's like, this team, this Liberty team, is this the greatest team? Like, what? Is this the same team that lost to the Aces last year? How? This Aces team needs a lot more respect if they beat this Liberty team that I saw.
Starting point is 01:20:03 How close do you pay attention to it? We're obviously paying closer attention to it. Last night, we missed a layup to tie this thing with like six seconds left, and Connecticut's on guess again. We seem to have a murderer's road who started this entire thing with the Indiana fever. But this Liberty team is the greatest team of all time. Is this how this works? What should I expect out of this season from the W, you think?
Starting point is 01:20:25 I think for the Liberty team, I think they'll be there in the end. They've got to take their lumps. They've got to go through different points of the season. Like, even the Boston Celtics team that won in 08, like they went through there. They were 67-15 or whatever it was. But they learned along the way. And I think this Liberty team has all the pieces to your point.
Starting point is 01:20:41 They can do everything. I think the favorites are them and the Aces in the championship. And by that time, they'll be a different team than when they're starting out right now. So you're still good. You're good. Yeah, but the fever, what they're going to be. We're just four games into this. They're starting to figure it out.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Bingo. We got to give the ball a shorter one. Got to take our lumps. Got to take our lumps. They're just sitting moving screens on, Kaitlin. It's just like Ant. You know, when Ant came in, they're on their way. They're calling ticky-tack foul screens on Kaitlin. It's just like Ant. When Ant came in, they're on their way. They're calling ticky-tack fouls on Kaitlin.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Kaitlin's like, well, that's not a fucking foul. And they're like, well, that's a tech, too. And then she's picking up two real quick out of nowhere. It's a whole new league. Yep, yep. Bang, pow. Ant, you get a tech. All right, lady.
Starting point is 01:21:18 You know, her dad's still sitting inside. Arms crossed, just waiting to let her know. But there are four games in this. Kaitlin's going to figure it out. Absolutely. Let's get back to the NBA. Congrats to the Aces being ill- are four games in this. Kaitlin's going to figure it out. Absolutely. Let's get back to the NBA. Congrats to the Aces being at Liberty. The Aces would be impossible to beat.
Starting point is 01:21:29 What a title. I have my eyes on them. I'm like, you're talking about offering Kaitlin Clark a big three contract? It's like Liberty got a big three. Yeah. They got a team. They got a team. They had their hands like this over Leah Boston.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Rookie of the year. They had their hands like this over Leah Boston, and she just looked like how my daughter looks whenever she's trying to get something. She's not talking. It's just bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. And then Beastie's hitting Hezzy's. It's like, what is this team's problem? The Aces plus 110 to go back again. Liberty plus 185. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:56 Okay. Two-teamer. Seattle up there, too. That's home now. Seattle Storm. That's a lot of miles. Flying a lot of miles up there, Seattle. That's a lot of miles. Flying a lot of miles up there, Seattle. You might get a little jet lag.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Seattle's going to be tough to win ever in anything. No matter what. I can't believe you live up there. You travel to Alaska and then you every single time. I love it. I love that you do it, but that's far up there.
Starting point is 01:22:28 It is far. It is far, but it's home. I can never leave here. So it's always home, and for me, I'll never leave. So it's the best place on earth. I'll go anywhere from here, though. It has to be from here. It's beautiful up there.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Oh, yeah. It was gorgeous. Went out to Oregon a couple times. You guys got to come to a show up here at some point. I don't know how big. I don't show up here at some point. I don't know how big. I don't know if we're a big... I don't know. Not a huge footprint up there. I'm not sure
Starting point is 01:22:51 if it's smart. We'll maybe run out like a gymnasium or something. Seahawks fans really love us, too. Oh, yeah. Seattle Seahawks fans are very thankful for our coverage of their team. Oh, my God. Probably not. I don't think so. But, hey, shout out Seattle. Where is Seattle? A lot of Hoopers. Oh my god. Probably not. I don't think so. But hey, shout out Seattle. I love you Seattle Hoopers.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Where, Seattle? A lot of Hoopers. Seattle a basketball hub? I didn't know that. Yeah, for sure. We got Jay McDaniels now, Zach Levine, Paulo Ben-Carol, DeJounte Murray, Isaiah Thomas, B-Roy, Nate Robinson, myself. The list goes on and on. Doug Christie. Wow. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:23:24 What a place. Seattle. Yeah. All right, Seattle. Hard to shoot in the rain. Weren't people offering up Seattle to Canada a couple times whenever there was like a whole negotiation? People. Portland.
Starting point is 01:23:33 Portland. Oh, Portland. It wasn't Seattle. Okay, it wasn't us. It wasn't me. I would never do that. Hey, let's stay on the West Coast. Go ahead, Conman.
Starting point is 01:23:39 Yeah, Jamal, you need to bring a team back to Seattle first of all and get the Supersonics back in the league. But with that being said, Sean Sharania is reporting that the Lakers view J.J. Redick, Pat Riley-like. I assume J.J. Redick absolutely hates that, but that is what Sean's is reporting. What do you think about the situation going over there in L.A.? Do you think that J.J. is kind of a shoo-in for that job? And how do you think that would work out, especially if the boys were to lose a couple games
Starting point is 01:24:07 and they have to go record, mind the game right after, and they don't like each other? Yeah, I don't know if he's a shoo-in, but definitely having that pie with those two is a great segue, for sure, right? You understand how LeBron sees the game, how JJ sees it. You see how they see it together.
Starting point is 01:24:23 I think whenever you have a great player like that, you want to have him on the same page with the coach. So if he has a different spec for him and JJ's in the mix, and I know JJ wants to coach. He told me that maybe two and a half years ago he wanted to be a coach. He loved coaching. So I know that he wants to be a coach. He has a passion for it.
Starting point is 01:24:39 He's obviously a brilliant basketball mind. It's just about how those two and how the rest of the team would kind of see things. And I think he'd be a great coach. Young Pat Riley, that's steep. I mean, Pat Riley, that's pretty steep. Hey, you ever think about getting a coach here? I coach eighth grade right now.
Starting point is 01:24:55 My team, Rotary Styles, third in the country, eighth grade. So, you know what? I'm seeing all these coaches, man. They're getting some big bags. I don't know. It may be time to throw my name in the ring. Eighth grade. Eighth grade, and we smack it.
Starting point is 01:25:08 What are we teaching? I don't know the development of basketball. Is there sophisticated basketball happening in eighth grade? And how much coaching are we doing? How many plays we got? And third in the country. Holy shit. Hey, let's go.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Probably the best. You don't have an opportunity to play the best yet. And what's crazy is we probably have, this is no lie, we probably have 150 offensive plays. And it's myself, Rael Hennings, and Keith Smith, all of us played Division I. We're not coaching them where they are now. We're coaching them where they're going.
Starting point is 01:25:35 And that's the cheat code, right? So we're watching film. They absolutely are dialed in. They'll know terminology. They'll know all types of different things. But it's because of where we know they're going, so we're coaching towards that. They're really good though, Rotary style. I don't even know if
Starting point is 01:25:50 I knew 150 words. No way. You probably did. I don't think so. Hey, Craig. I remember how dumb I was. You want to see me throw my name in the ring? Is that what's going on out there?
Starting point is 01:26:04 Yeah, absolutely. Yes. We got Carlisle. You want to see me throw my name in the ring? Is that what's going on out there? Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Yes. Watch. Well, we got Carlisle. Let's think. Oh, yeah, you do. You do that, Carlisle. Start with a W.
Starting point is 01:26:12 Fever. Fever. Nijitz fever. Coach Sides. We're on Coach Sides' side. We are, yeah. We are on Coach Sides. We stand by Chris.
Starting point is 01:26:21 When the Supersonics come back. They were 13-27 last year. They're over four right now. I mean, the heat is on. It is. Especially when you're a fever already. It's already hot. And Blooter's out there.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Well, Blooter's sitting courtside right next to Jan Jansen. Yeah. They're sitting right next to the bench. I see here. Full on the jumbotron. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome. Whole place. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Standing O. He did. It went crazy. Coach Blue, really cool wave. It's like on a hot seat there. Eighth grade. So you're going to coach through high school then when the kids get through there? These are your kids?
Starting point is 01:26:55 Yeah. And I'm going to coach them all the way through high school. I think it's – oh, you got my boys up there. Look at Ty McNeil right there knocking down the three. I'm going to coach them all the way through. And then from there, but it's the perfect balance doing media and that, because I can do both.
Starting point is 01:27:08 If I was coaching, I would have to stop coaching these boys. And that's what's most important for me. Yeah, you can spend a lot of time, right? Yeah, look at Carter. Yeah, that's a lot of time. A lot of time. Oh, who's that? Who's that?
Starting point is 01:27:20 He plays football? He plays football too. He's a tight end. He just got his first. Ed Gray just got two scholarship offers from Cal and from University of Miami. Damn. One of the top players in the country. Good knowledge right there.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Steven's son. That's my guy right there. Probably our leading scorer. Lefty. Steven's son. Yeah, we got some go-getters, man. But they play as a team, and I love coaching them. We love coaching them.
Starting point is 01:27:44 I see you pacing the sidelines, obviously coaching them up. Let's go. Box out. Box out. I don't need you down here. You get on the right. Yeah, buddy. Defense to my coaches.
Starting point is 01:27:53 You know I didn't play defense, right? I leave that to my assistants. I didn't play offense. Specialists. Specialists. I like it. So modern NBA is your style of NBA, huh? George.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Hello. Here we go. Exactly. Yeah, you go out in the corner, up in the front. Hey, if they pass one to me, I'll get a steal. Yeah, I'll certainly get a steal. I appreciate that. I respect that.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Are we talking to the refs? Isn't that a big part of the youth sports is the treatment of refs and officials? Is it hard not to ask them to be professionals, even though they're only reffing eighth-grade AAU games? That was my son, JJ, knocked the last one down. They just packed. My last game, they just threw me out the game. And the guy came back and apologized.
Starting point is 01:28:27 He said, I was ready to ref you. I said, I'm not playing. You got to ref them. So I got thrown out the game in the first half. And I got on tape. It wasn't bad at all. Oh, OK. So you're raising hell with these refs.
Starting point is 01:28:38 I raised hell after the game. I sat to the side after he threw me out. I walked out. And then I raised hell afterwards. I'm in. But I usually don't. OK, let's talk about this. I got a tweet from the NBA out. I walked out and then I raised tail afterwards. But I usually don't. Okay, let's talk about this. I got a tweet from the NBA officials.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Hey, real deal here. I got a tweet from the NBA officials. The account from the NBA reps. Basically saying this guy tries to say he's Mr. Positive. Be a friend, tell a friend something. I am not joking around right now.
Starting point is 01:29:06 This is a real tweet that happened in real life during our four-day break. Because the first Fever game, Isaac Barnett, this little whistle-happy ref, calls two non-fouls on Kaitlyn Clark in the first five minutes of that game. The only two fouls called. And I would assume the ratings went from, uh, to, we're not watching because she has to go to the bench because she's the only one with two fouls called, and I would assume the ratings went from to, we're not watching because she has to go to the bench because she's the only one with two fouls already this early. So that was my first WNBA game I've ever watched in my life.
Starting point is 01:29:31 And we obviously called for a lot of things on that next day, including Isaac Barnett to be the hell out of the WNBA. Some people were calling for a coach. I was calling for the ref to be gone. And then, obviously, when the Pacers play the Knicks, and there's a lot of against the Pacers whenever it's in Madison Square Garden. And you've got Tenney Peters doing his song and dance.
Starting point is 01:29:50 And Scott Foster doing his song and dance. It's like, well, I need to be the voice of the people here. So I think the officials think that I need to pipe down a little bit and have a little bit more respect. Sounds like you're on my side. You're getting kicked out of eighth grade games. Sounds like you just want a little accountability. That's all we're looking for around here. We expect them to be great because they're already great humans because they're signing up
Starting point is 01:30:12 to ref. We got nothing but respect. But with that being said, I don't know if everybody gets a trophy here. We got to do our jobs. Is that an accurate? Accountability, a little balance, that's all. Call it consistent. it's a hard job when my last year in phoenix i reffed the players and they were crying and complaining i'm like shut
Starting point is 01:30:31 the hell up like i i get where they're coming from but we just want accountability and everything to be consistent consistency and we'll be patient that's all we're looking for that's basketball that's it we've been big basketball fans our whole life we didn't play any nba for 22 years no no, no. But we share similar thoughts. And we love the game. It makes me feel good. That's empowering me.
Starting point is 01:30:49 Yeah. That makes me feel great. That was the real NBA. Dude, I'm telling you. I sent it in. I just sent it in. That's NBA. Who runs the account?
Starting point is 01:30:57 At official. This is a real deal right here. Dude, I'm telling you. I saw it. I thought I was tripping. I was like, no way is this real. The Patman actually apprised himself on bringing positive energy to the world through conversation about sport, which is why so many of us are fans of the show.
Starting point is 01:31:11 They're not mad. They're disappointed. But this is far too often the case in today's society. The positivity isn't granted to sports officials. Critiquing decisions, performance, and execution is all part of the sports conversation, regardless of the accuracy of the two-foul-cost reference. Making remarks about the individual referee only exacerbates the issue
Starting point is 01:31:28 of violence against sports officials. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. These are the actual refs saying, hey, pipe down, pal. Yeah, what the hell? That's what I like these refs doing. How did you take that when you saw that? How did you take it? Well, I don't want to say I laughed.
Starting point is 01:31:45 But there was no way. That was the immediate reaction. Then there was a copy sent right to the group. Look at this joke. And then there was a moment of self-reflection. You know? That maybe these refs, maybe they are humans. You know? You ended it being self-refs, maybe they are humans. You know?
Starting point is 01:32:06 You ended it being self-reflective. That's growth. That's evolution. That's good. That's good for you. I thought maybe they are, you know? Like you were saying, you know, if you're horse shit, guess what? You're not going to get a pat on the back.
Starting point is 01:32:17 That's not the way it works. If you're horse shit, you're going to get called out for being horse shit, and then we move on and we try to do better. It's the two calls we're wrong in that tweet, kind of. Well, they kind of admitted fault, but also maybe just said, hey, take it easy. And I would like to let the refs know, we will take it easy. And whenever we say one ref
Starting point is 01:32:33 sucks, that doesn't mean all refs suck. No! You should hear what we say about the... You should hear what an official NFL ref says. Terrible, terrible. It seems to be happening against the Indiana teams on a regular basis from my spectator. But nonetheless you guys do me terrence me terrence howard yeah right right obviously have done all the science and figured it all out reffing is going to get better yeah that is what's going to happen in this entire thing and
Starting point is 01:32:59 we're thankful for that joe rogan experience hell yeah all right well we appreciate you brother what do you got for the rest of the day? We got podcasts. We got time. We calling more games. We're not doing that. We're doing simulcast. What do we got the rest of the way?
Starting point is 01:33:11 I'm actually home. We got practice tonight, but I'm actually home. This will be when I leave Thursday. So I've been home one time for four straight days in two months. So I'm out, man. I'm trying to be like you guys and get in this media space and do well there. So that's my focus right now.
Starting point is 01:33:28 That and practice. Spend some time with family. We will send an invite on a very regular basis over the next few weeks of the season. We appreciate you so much. Ladies and gentlemen,
Starting point is 01:33:36 Jamal Crawford. Yay! Jamal! I thought of Terrence Howard breaking down the refs in a whistle. Just imagine him talking about the whistle sound.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Mm-hmm. What that is, actually, is a gas that's created aj watched the whole thing what so at all i i indifferent in over the course of a couple days i just i was very intrigued he never came off of it i thought oh maybe we'll start talking about his acting and you know movies now we never really got there but it was still very entertaining. Certainly. I've watched all these videos just going, wow. This is when my... When his hand was his friend, he said, here's my friend. Oh, that's my hand. Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:14 And he kept doing all this stuff when he was in the womb. He thought it was his friend, but it was his hand. And he remembers that. What was the palace? That was his dreams. He kept referencing, yeah, the palace. I think that was in his dreams that he would go to and visit. I think. Yeah, there was like this information.
Starting point is 01:34:27 Like he said, the periodic table he saw for the first time in this palace is what he said in that clip. Well, the thing that we missed in his Wikipedia whenever we talked about, he went to an engineering school. He calls himself an engineer. He's three credits short is what the Wikipedia says. The next line says, yeah, he has the patent that mixes virtual reality with actual reality. Yeah, here it is. Howard is the sole inventor, invented this thing. Damn. Listed on U.S. patent, U.S. 201-00271394A1.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Yeah, right down there at the bottom. 0 0 2 7 1 3 9 4 a 1. Uh, yeah, break down there at the bottom titled a system and method for merging virtual reality and reality to provide an enhanced sensory experience, which after listening to a couple of clips, sounds like would be something he would create, which has been cited by Amazon, Microsoft, HP,
Starting point is 01:35:19 Sony, Raytheon among 30 other major corporations. It was later abandoned by Howard Raytheon. Done with this shit. Yeah. He basically said if he would have paid the fees, if he would have paid the fees, he'd have trillions of dollars by now.
Starting point is 01:35:32 If he would have paid to keep the patent alive, I guess. You know what they say, sometimes it says little things that the geniuses just can't figure out. That's right. Geniuses just can't figure out. Amen. As we wait for our next guest,
Starting point is 01:35:43 who is obviously a great chatter. First of all, I'd like to say I love Austin Rivers on the show. He needs more TV time. Yes, he does. He will just throw himself out there, won't he? He will certainly do whatever, which is why we love him. The next guy has been doing this for football for a matter of years, but football
Starting point is 01:36:00 is happening. How do you feel? We did a quick little OTA bounce. You were with, obviously, Aaron last week down at the Kentucky Derby watching the horses race. Feels like he's spinning it. I may or may not have chatted with sources close to the situation saying, feeling very good. Like, ball coming
Starting point is 01:36:16 out very good. Legs feel good. Feel light. Feel upbeat. Is that your sense of what's happening over there for the quarterback of the New York Jets as well? Yeah, I mean, I'm not surprised that I read that he is fully clear to do everything, that he looks good. I mean, he looks good physically. You know, you saw him, remember in Tahoe, he's like tan, he's kind of jacked for how he normally is. Like he, he seems to be in the best shape of his life. I would assume his Achilles is feeling really good
Starting point is 01:36:38 too. Yeah, whenever you have to rehab something, you're, you're already in there working out. So like I found whenever i would have to rehab best shape of my whole body would get into because you're in there you have to rebuild whatever you're doing and then as you're doing that you have to balance it out too because you can't make one obviously smaller or bigger than the other so you may become in there even better mentally though good spot seems like from the source scenes that i've talked to right yeah did you see the little clips of them warming up when they're doing the little stretch lines and running? That's when you know, like, hey, he's jacking around with multiple people,
Starting point is 01:37:09 always, like, pointing out, saying stupid things, making fun of dudes, dudes making fun of him. Like, you could tell he's having a good time out there. Yeah, we have the calisthenics. He was doing a little high stepping, too, like he was prime, which is obviously not easy for a hamstring at his age, too. No offense, but things change a little bit as you get older. He's high-stepping it.
Starting point is 01:37:31 He's talking his shit. Hey, hey. Uh, uh. Hey, hey. Quick to the high knees, which smart play at 30, whatever he is. Yeah, you don't need to do the other one. Yeah, we don't need to be high-stepping it. But it's, uh, I think you just told him what Joker't need to do the other one. We don't need to be high-stepping it, but it's... I think he just
Starting point is 01:37:45 told him what Joker was going to do. He's got to be excited to be out there with the boys. Joining us now is a guy who could potentially tell us what quarterbacks are going through at this stage of the NFL schedule. We're at OTAs right now. What does that mean? Saw him break down a playbook on the internet. Then I saw Chase Daniel do it ten times. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Yeah, Dan! Good shirt. What's up, buds? What's going on? Good shirt. You tell us what's going on with you, dude. Seems like you wrote Florida Panthers on a shirt of yours. No, I wore this for D-Buck. I know he's a big Panthers fan.
Starting point is 01:38:20 So this was an original buy. Appreciate that. Is that an inside-out shirt? Or is it Is that inside out? It looks like a shirt's inside out. Is that an inside out shirt or is it just a white shirt? You cheap son of a bitch. It looks like it's a basketball shirt that you turn inside out and then use the red marker on. It's just in support of D-Butt. That's the only.
Starting point is 01:38:39 You cheap son of a bitch. Just order a shirt if you want to be a prick, okay? Don't come on here like some asshat drawing on his shirt, you doucher. No, I don't think he drew on... I don't think he read any of those. He's upset. Florida Panthers knocked out the Boston Bruins. You obviously
Starting point is 01:38:56 didn't know that, right? No, I unfortunately haven't paid attention a ton to hockey. I didn't know that. They're playing the New York Rangers next. That would be like... This is just classic Connecticut. This is just exactly what Connecticut does.
Starting point is 01:39:11 No, the only thing I really know was PK talking about it. Other than that, I didn't know that, Connor. I'm sorry. That's high fashion you got on that shirt. You probably sell that thing $750-$800 in that city that has the Madison Square Garden. You probably get some shoes that you just wipe through some dog poop Probably sell that thing $750, $800 in that city that has the Madison Square Garden. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:29 You could probably get some shoes that you just wipe through some dog poop out in the yard. Yep. Put it in a box. You could probably sell that. $1,500. Maybe $2,000. Maybe. Wouldn't the Panthers beat?
Starting point is 01:39:37 Maybe the Boston Bruins. You're overselling, Dan. That's all I got Sweet shirt That was definitely to tell Connor Big lacrosse guy Going into the final four weekend This guy's coming on here just to be a prick Notre Dame's about to win it
Starting point is 01:40:20 Amen, they are They're so good The Kavanaugh boys It's just a legacy after a legacy And the youngest Kavanaugh boy Amen, they are. They're so good. They're so good. The Cavanaugh boys. Oh, my God. Nasty. It's just a legacy after a legacy. Bingo. And the youngest Cavanaugh boy who isn't even in school yet is about to get there and do something better. And Chris isn't even in school.
Starting point is 01:40:32 Is he going to Notre Dame, the youngest one? I assume, yeah. That's what Notre Dame. No, he's not. I believe Chris is the youngest one. Oh, okay. There's another one. They're going to have kids.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Matt's kids. The oldest actually. His boy. Yeah. And his boy's boy. And he's going to say, my father kids. Matt's kids. The oldest actually. His boy. Yeah. And his boy's boy. And he's going to say, my father and my father's brothers, they went to Notre Dame.
Starting point is 01:40:51 Yeah, I mean, lacrosse. That goal is stupid. Yeah, I mean, that's what the boys do. The lads are buzzing. I believe they call that a question mark. Oh, my God, dude. You are such a lacrosse mark. It is just disgusting listening to you talk. What is your problem?
Starting point is 01:41:03 Why are you so angry right now? The guy wrote Florida Panthers on the inside out of a basketball shirt. I believe that's called the question mark goal. Shut up, Dan. Yeah, it is. That's how lacrosse speak. That's how lacrosse people speak. That's how the rest of the world thinks. The lingo would probably be. You sound
Starting point is 01:41:17 a little emotional right now. Oh, geez. You okay? It's the Eastern Conference Finals game one. I mean, what are we talking about here? Yeah, it's a volatile day. Sorry, I'm a fan of sports. Sue me. I don't just put on some stupid sharpie on a shirt to piss people off. That actually are fans teams, Dan.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Okay. Looks like it worked. All right. Great work, Dano. Dan is a mastermind. I'm revved up. Yeah, you are revved up because the Pacers, obviously, are taking on the Celtics tonight.
Starting point is 01:41:45 Let's talk about the NFL, Dan. And I thought we were maybe going to have a – I looked at the clock and thought maybe we'd do a moment of silence for 20 minutes for the final, for the end of the show. I was ready. 100% ready. Legit. But I would like to get some of Dan's thoughts.
Starting point is 01:41:58 I mean, so it's a little bit of an issue. Right now at these OTAs, Dan, we're seeing Patrick Mahomes back in the building. Obviously, he's been doing his thing. He's the face of the NFL. He's back in the building for OTAs, Dan, we're seeing Patrick Mahomes back in the building. Obviously, he's been doing his thing. He's the face of the NFL. He's back in the building for OTAs. You got Aaron Rodgers back in the building. You got Justin Herbert back in the building. Now, everything's happening.
Starting point is 01:42:13 What should we be taking away from these practices and these videos that we're seeing? And what are your thoughts where we stand right now with some of the young bucks and where they're headed? I mean, I think in relation to Patrick, you know, like if we're being honest, the Chiefs have had a very loud and noisy and probably not ideal offseason when it comes to the off the field stuff. And so I think this is when, you know, when you're the face of the NFL
Starting point is 01:42:39 and just the elite talent, you lose sight of some of the intangible stuff. And at least we do in regards to that and I think right now we'll see itself play out eventually the leadership of Patrick because obviously Rasheed Rice has gotten his name into the um into the conversation a little bit and Wanya Morris their potential left tackle and Harrison Butker you know there's just been a lot of um maybe not glowing positivity when it comes to the organization or some of their players and so I think Patrick's
Starting point is 01:43:10 going to be challenged a little bit with his leadership to make sure like they they can stay as focused as possible on the three p I think like that's one of the things that we constantly overlook when it comes to Patrick is that so just watching how he leads throughout all of this will be something that to kind of pay attention to with Aaron in New York we had Joe Buck on yesterday and just talking about their you know the opener for Monday Night Football I'm just so excited to watch Aaron and Garrett together because that was one of the things that I was looking forward to last season was I thought Garrett had the chance to be in that conversation for offensive player of the year just because I obviously have tremendous respect and appreciation for how ridiculous Aaron is and I think Garrett
Starting point is 01:43:49 is a superstar and you know to have almost 100 catches and over a thousand yards last year with you know not high level quarterback play I just want to see those two dudes go to work and become one of those quarterback wide receiver duos that is one of those special ones in the league i think herbert and with the chargers will be a lot better than people expect just because the style of play and the coaching ability i think for the rookies like i there's a there's a nerd element of that playbook stuff that you know i kind of like just great day great great great shit day great yeah i just got bored um and was like hey you know because the next two and a half three months the conversation around these guys is always
Starting point is 01:44:31 going to be should they start when did she should they start is he ready all that and i just thought it would be interesting for people to see like to be able to answer that question yes or no this is all that they have to like to learn to then go out and give themselves the chance to go play and maybe earn that starting job and it's just so much i wanted you know fans to have a little bit of a greater appreciation for it's more than hey here's your play call go out there and find the open guy well i think it did a great job of explaining all that and if you have it you would assume that all these guys that were drafted high have the capability to retain all that information. But that is something that teams are going to find out now for real, right? With all these guys is and through OTAs, can you decide and decipher if somebody is going to be able to get it quick enough? OTAs and me camps, I think you can walk away in regards to a player and be like,
Starting point is 01:45:30 we can give him more and he can handle more. You know, I think once you give them that information, I've said this before, you guys have heard me say like, I think every quarterback in the NFL is accurate. Not all of them have really good ball placement. Every quarterback in the NFL is intelligent. All of them could sit there, take stuff in, in an information, in a meeting, get up on the board and recite it. Talk about it in a meeting room. 99% of them. When you give those guys all that information, all they have to handle when it comes to the different personnels and the cadence and how they're going to communicate in the huddle and the different play calls and the situational football, and then they're able to go communicate at a little bit different level in the huddle instead of just calling,
Starting point is 01:46:07 hey, we're going to get into double right, two jet, all go orbit on one, getting into the huddle and be like, hey, fellas, it's first and ten here. If you get that safety play over the top, make sure you bend in a little bit, come back to the football if you're the outside guy, back it out, and we're going to go double right, you know i'll go orbit on one hey offensive line make sure you chip us like when you hear your young quarterback to be capable of that that's when i think you walk away and be like oh we can give them more like i was thinking about it this morning cj in part had that year last year at least in my belief because of the the way that Ryan Day coaches those quarterbacks at Ohio State.
Starting point is 01:46:46 Like, they huddle. They have long play calls. CJ's got to make sure that there's different levels to his communication within the huddle. I think that, you know, really was like a huge foundation for him and his success. CJ on our show actually said that. I think he said because of Ohio State and because of Ryan Day is why he had such a jump start on everything mentally.
Starting point is 01:47:05 And then he also complimented, I think, the Big Ten for the defenses that you play against. He gives the perfect answer for everything. Obviously, everybody is hoping that they have a quarterback like that. Go ahead, AJ. Dan, if you were in Atlanta right now and through training camp, I know Kirk Cousins is coming off that Achilles. How would you split up reps between he and Pennix? I know you want Pennix to develop, obviously, and all this, but Kirk, he's on a new squad as well.
Starting point is 01:47:28 How would you kind of divvy that up? And when it comes to Penix, how much do you give that guy and how much do you give him in camp? I mean, I don't think I would give Michael Penix a rep with our ones unless it was a day off for Kirk or Kirk's not practicing. I would, you know, Kirk is in Atlanta, new locker room, new people, new offensive coordinator and first time offensive coordinator in Zach Robinson. And so, you know, if we're being brutally honest here, this is also the first time that these skill
Starting point is 01:47:56 position players have had like a bona fide starting quarterback as their guy. And so they need the reps with Kirk as much as Kirk may need the reps and to take those reps away from a guy like Kirk Cousins and give them to Michael Penix when you're not banking on him playing this year I think would be a little bit of a waste of time in that regard Michael Penix would get a decent amount of my number two reps with him and Taylor Heineke to see if he can win that backup job right away. But this would be something where Kirk would get the great majority of them.
Starting point is 01:48:30 Yeah, and the way they balance that entire situation will certainly be judged by everybody. And if it ends up working out for them, they're going to take a victory lap on everybody's grave. Certainly a topic of conversation. We'll continue to chit-chat on YouTube, ESPN Plus, and TikTok, which needs to get figured out. It does.
Starting point is 01:48:47 And then we'll be back tomorrow on ESPN SportsCenter in about seven minutes. Be a friend, tell a friend something nice, even to refs. Cheers. Yeah, we got attacked by the NBA refs, Dano. I saw that. I was watching. Yeah, I didn't expect that when I signed up to do this every day. Yeah, you...
Starting point is 01:49:04 I mean, it is what it is. Who's running that account, though? It's one guy. It's not every ref didn't base it. Is it a legit account? I know there's a blue checkmark, but nowadays I don't know if that matters. Hey, man, we got a Brian James Jr. got me.
Starting point is 01:49:18 Brian James Jr. got me. Oh, you're taking off your shirt? Oh, we get it. You're jacked. Wow, Dan Orlovsky. We're still on TV, Dan. Still on YouTube. No, you're not. I'm. Oh, we get it. You're jacked. Wow, Dan Orlovsky. We're still on TV, Dan. We're still on YouTube. No, you're not.
Starting point is 01:49:27 I'm watching it right there. You need to know that people are watching this right now. You need to know people are still watching. Yeah, it's not on ESPN, though. Oh, so you said tops off for a crisis. Yep. That's what you said? Can he do 40 push-ups like he can?
Starting point is 01:49:41 No chance. Remember that? How many push-ups? I can do 40 straight push-ups. You weigh 115 pounds. It would be lifting the bar. It was Connecticut. Wow. Ruined a UConn Huskies basketball shirt.
Starting point is 01:49:51 Wow. Spit on. I wouldn't say ruined. I wouldn't say ruined. Show the front of it. Show the front of it. You say ruined? Show the front of it. Ruined? Not ruined. This is like a workout shirt. Ruined. The Huskies. Ruined. He's got plenty. Send that to D-Butts. It's a perfect shirt for him. Add the Dolphins on there.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Chargers. F1. Max Verstappen. And Lando. D-Butts got a question for you though, Orlovsky. Yeah, these quarterbacks, obviously you're talking about the mental aspect of the game. We know they're all talented too. Obviously going into, I think, third year now with Mike McDaniels and Lamar's second year with Todd. But
Starting point is 01:50:23 physically, they're making some big changes. L weight both of them how do you feel about those quarterbacks going into the season with those big physical changes what's your expectations for both those guys going forward yeah I think with Tua it'd be interesting to see if they get the contract done before the season you know I remember last year there was a conversation around Tua because he added the weight. And it was a little bit in regards to trying to become as durable as possible coming off of the concussions. And it was he hit the gym hard and tried to add some weight to absorb some of those hits. And maybe it's because it seems that, you know, maybe the jujitsu or whatnot really did help, I guess, when it comes to his ability to fall and whatnot and take some of those shots.
Starting point is 01:51:08 And now he wants to become a little bit. Because the one part of Tua's game that I think hasn't necessarily, like, shown up or translated as much in the NFL as it did in college was, like, Tua in college was this really sudden guy in the pocket. College was, like Tua in college was this really sudden guy in the pocket. It was this twitchy, sudden, almost, you know, watching like a short space boxer work and move. And he hasn't necessarily been that guy in the NFL. Now it's a little bit of the comfort level, certainly attached to some of the injuries. And I want to see if maybe some of the weight that he's reportedly dropped in this offseason
Starting point is 01:51:44 brings a little bit of that element to his game back because if you can just get a little bit more movement-centric if you're Tua in that offense, it expands what defenses are willing to try and take away or stop because, D-Butt, you know this. AJ, you know this. If you can move just a little bit, it changes the way that defenders got to have to play against you. And so I'll be interested if some of that weight loss impacts that.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Cameron Wolfe of NFL Network said in a further follow-up interview after he put out a tweet on, I believe, was it Total Access? That show's done. NFL Total Access is done. They moved it. The Insiders. Yeah, they're back. We learned who Todd Billing is.
Starting point is 01:52:24 Tom Pelissero is the star of that show. He's the guy. I other one's back. Yeah, they're back. We learned who top billing is. Tom Pelissero is the star. He's the guy. I didn't know that. Well, Cameron Wolfe explained that the injuries with Tua, it wasn't about the size of Tua. It was about his landing. So the jujitsu schooling and teaching did help him. They all agreed that.
Starting point is 01:52:40 So now he can lose the weight. It's not about how big you are. It's about how you fall was kind of the the method so him getting smaller we love that uh lamar jackson gets smaller i i to d butt's point we talked about this earlier lamar has an ability to miss people not take like a huge hit so that's why everybody's like uh lamar you can't play like yeah oh he needs one hit from one of these guys they They were saying the first couple years. And then Lamar has this ability to not take a massive shot. Like, that's kind of a skill.
Starting point is 01:53:10 So if he's lighter, faster, and still has the ability to miss people, it feels like this is a good move for Lamar Jackson as well, especially if you have a guy like Derrick Henry and Patrick Ricard in the backfield alongside of you. I mean, this feels like a smart play. I like this for Lamar. I like it. Yeah, I do too.
Starting point is 01:53:26 We had Baltimore Week 18 last year and got to sit with Lamar. You definitely saw that he looked 15 pounds just thicker than maybe you were used to. Him faster blows my mind, and him shiftier and quicker blows my mind. The Ravens are really interesting, though, because I know everyone probably is undervaluing or underselling the Odell to Miami and no longer in Baltimore.
Starting point is 01:53:51 But Odell was a relative solid piece for them when it came to winning one-on-ones and possessions. And, you know, for Lamar, I have very little doubt that Lamar is going to play at an incredibly high level. But it will be, like like they got a bank on Zay Flowers taking the next step they really do and they got a bank on Bateman staying healthy when Bateman's on the field he's a good player he's just got to really stay healthy and likely
Starting point is 01:54:15 taking like that next step because again I know Odell isn't maybe what Odell used to be but him not being there just for like that possession element or hey it's one-on-one try to go win um I I do I am going to be interested to see how that pass game takes the next step this year I know the addition of Derrick Henry matters but um I want to see how that pass game takes takes the next step without that because like D-Bot you know this too like zay is not your like possession guy on third and seven work the middle of the field off leverage body guy neither is bateman you know zay's get touches vertical stretch bateman's a little bit of like win now type of guy um so i'll see how that how that grows you're gonna be in a bond with those uh with that 12
Starting point is 01:55:03 personnel said and Andrew stays healthy. Obviously, Likert, who came along and had a great year. So you've got to put big bodies on the field to try to take care of Derrick Henry. And then one of these guys has got to cover those tight ends. But I love Zay. I think Zay obviously can do everything. No doubt. To your point, he is one of those big body guys who's kind of always open.
Starting point is 01:55:21 Wherever you throw the ball, he can kind of generate that space. So I'm interested to see how that offense evolves. How about Isaiah Likely? Oh, yeah. And Mark Andrews? You're talking about they need like a position. They got him. They got a couple of them.
Starting point is 01:55:33 And then the addition, did you see Derrick Henry coming out? He's so large. How's that happen? How does he end up in Baltimore? He looks great in purple, too. He does. He looks fantastic. He looks like it's like the perfect home for him.
Starting point is 01:55:46 I know he has a legendary career at the Tennessee Titans and took them very deep into the playoffs. He just is like a perfect raven, it feels like. I mean, that's Roquan next to him. Yeah. AJ, did you ever tackle him? No, I do not believe so. I think I got out before he got in, but I mean, good luck.
Starting point is 01:56:06 I don't think I would have been able to. He's Cam Newton size, right? He looks like Cam. He reminds me of Cam like body size. Well, like a stock figure? I don't know. We saw that video. Cam is gigantic.
Starting point is 01:56:20 We saw him throw those two dudes at his camp. I'd say they're about the same. Cam was eye toto-eye with me when I was standing on a stage, and he was down on the ground. I'm like, Jesus, fuck. He's so big. Big, fast, strong. Every single thing. And it's like Derrick Henry becoming a Raven.
Starting point is 01:56:36 He's got Ricard leading the way for him, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they really gave the AFC title game away more so than, I mean, credit Kansas City to make some plays. It was punched away. It was punched, just like you, Sick, did Dicey Fury.
Starting point is 01:56:50 That's right. It was punched away right there at the end. I can't wait to see them do their thing, especially Lamar Jackson. Now, there's a quarterback, whenever you talked about playing high, high level, that I don't think you think he has played there yet. And it might be agreed upon by all parties. Tone has a question for you. Danny's no longer wearing a cowboy hat.
Starting point is 01:57:08 It's a new tone. Well, just today. Dano. Maybe, maybe. I saw the reaction to your Trevor Lawrence talk yesterday on the internet last night. And for some reason, I think Jaguars fans think he's a top eight quarterback potentially. I don't even know if he's a top 15, 16 maybe, but they're talking about giving him a $50 million a year extension
Starting point is 01:57:30 because that's a going price for quarterbacks. Do you think he gets that? And if not, he's not going to take less than 50, so what do they do? Yeah. So a couple things. I do think that when we talk about quarterbacks in the nfl i i very much so believe we have to stop the top five conversation because we leave guys out that are unquestionably top five players we just have too many good ones so like i really believe that when we talk about
Starting point is 01:57:59 these quarterbacks it's got to be that top eight if you're a top 10 quarterback in the nfl like you're flat out at a elite your team wins because of you type of guy at that top eight. If you're a top ten quarterback in the NFL, you're flat out an elite. Your team wins because of you type of guy. At least top eight. In regards to Trevor, listen, I love Trevor Lawrence. I think he's going to be everything that he kind of was built to be as the number one pick. There's a couple of things. Number one, he has not become that, oh my gosh, we're winning these games because of him guy yet.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Do I think he's got the ability to get there? Absolutely. Obviously, there's a ton of pressure this year. I do not think that you, no question about it, we're paying this guy $50 million right now, unless you in the building are unequivocally convinced that he is going to become that guy. Because there's been moments moments and last year it certainly trended that way coming off to that playoff comeback two years ago but then the
Starting point is 01:58:49 injuries to Kirk and he never got on the same page consistently with Calvin Ridley and then he had the injury himself I love Trevor I think he's a superstar talent um I thought I saw a deep butt on social he's probably going to get it yes um just because the nature of the business if i was trevor lawrence and they were offering me 40 or 45 would i run to sign it no i would not because to d bud's point it's just the nature of the business um in florida i i don't know i there's no way that we could sit here and say this guy is trevor lawrence has you know deserved or his play has earned however one of you phrase it the same as joe burrow or the same as josh allen or the same as patrick or some of those guys that are even kirk you know like someone responded back to me yesterday he's
Starting point is 01:59:39 a top eight quarterback here's eight right now that just came to the top of my head that are better you know and like it doesn't mean he's not going to get there. Patrick, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, Stafford, Drake May, Jordan Love, Kirk Cousins,
Starting point is 01:59:57 CJ Stroud, we're going by divisions now, Brock Purdy, Anthony Richardson, that's eight. Not yet. Anthony Richardson. That's eight. Not yet. Jordan Love. Jared Goff.
Starting point is 02:00:12 It's nine. We did that European on the second one. Yeah, Prescott. Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts. Whoa. Two up. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 02:00:21 Whoa, whoa, whoa. Two up. Herbert. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Herbert, like there's these – that's kind of the point of there's way more than top five quarterbacks. There's way more. Yeah, let's go back to Jalen. Let's go back to Jalen. Where's he, top 16, 17? How far do we need to –
Starting point is 02:00:38 30? 30? No, I mean, I think Jalen coming off of this Super Bowl year, you were convinced like, hey, he's top five just because of the way that he played. Last year he did not have that same season. They didn't run him as much or as effectively and whatnot. So, like – Who's Shane Steichen?
Starting point is 02:00:53 That's him. Yeah, Steichen's brilliant. So, like, yeah, it's fair to say we want to see what Jalen gets back to under Kellen Moore. That's fair to say. Yeah. How's Tua going to do? He's going to do great.
Starting point is 02:01:04 You put him up there. Who else? He put – I Moore. That's fair to say. Yeah. How's Tua going to do? He's going to do great. You put him up there. Who else? He put – I mean, there's 12 of them. Dak Prescott going up there. Yeah. Yeah, we think it's – Sam Hattles.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Did you hear Tom Brady, what he said about Dak? Oh, when he was like, see if he could finally get it done or whatever? Yeah. And it's, ooh, did that slip out? The personality. Yeah, it wasn't planned. He's going to crush those games. That's good.
Starting point is 02:01:27 I'm excited. Yeah, I think he'll do well. Do you? Breaks my heart for Greg, but. Are you calling in games this year? Doing college ball?
Starting point is 02:01:34 Monday night football? I don't know yet. I've got the, we've got four or five Monday night double headers. I do know. And then, you know,
Starting point is 02:01:42 I did the international Frankfurt game for NFL Network last year. They've got a couple of them, so I, you know, I did the international Frankfurt game for NFL Network last year. They've got a couple of them, so I don't know if I'll get into any of them. Oh, man. I'm not going to get a college football playoff game. They're going to stiff him with the poop bowl. Yep.
Starting point is 02:01:54 What happened? Caroline and the Giants. Oh, you're definitely going there. Germany. Have fun, Dan. I've been told by numerous people that that game could be good. That game could be good. Oh, is that right?
Starting point is 02:02:05 It could be. It will. Carolina Panthers, New York. Absolutely. Can figure it out. John Hollis down there. They're saying that about Pat's Colts. I've heard Munich is sick though.
Starting point is 02:02:14 Munich is sick. I mean, the German fans are very, very much in love with the sport. Yeah. It's also, dude, like, you get the opportunity to call an NFL game that is standalone. Like, that's awesome. All eyes on me. Is that what you said? All eyes on me.
Starting point is 02:02:31 Yeah. Tupac. I mean, for me to be able to call those, like, I shouldn't be able to call those. Dan, we think you should, but we think you're good. Come on, Dan. I think you're good in the booth, Dan. Great on there.
Starting point is 02:02:40 Chase, Dan. Well, thank you, but there's still, you know, that's at least my perspective of it. So, yeah, that. So we'll see. We'll see what the fall brings. All right. We appreciate you joining us.
Starting point is 02:02:51 Are you doing off-season stuff? Like is NFL Live still going? Because remember, he does regular season all day. Yes. And then he just disappears for, what, months? But he still puts out his cryptic tweets. Yeah, I saw him yesterday. You were on TV yesterday?
Starting point is 02:03:08 What was that all about? That's weird. You all right? I'm great. Those couple weeks, too, those cryptic tweet season Orlovskis. He's having one this morning. I'm going to send one out, too. I'm going to send one out, too, for Dan Orlovsky.
Starting point is 02:03:21 Of course. Why not? I might start doing that. Yeah, for Dan Orlovsky. Yeah. How many days away I might start doing that. Yeah, for Dan Orlovsky. Yeah. How many days away from NFL football? 107 days. We are very, very close.
Starting point is 02:03:30 999 days until the Super Bowl is on ESPN. All right. We're not counting that way. I like that. That's a big deal. Are you going to be a part of the coverage? I mean, that's 999 days away, so I have no idea. I hope so. I think you would know by now.
Starting point is 02:03:48 That's not good. Send a couple tweets. Three years away. Alright, Dan, we appreciate you, buddy. We miss you over here. We need you to stop by more. We didn't know you were working. Dude, I am available every day. I'm just hanging out.
Starting point is 02:04:03 Hanging out, playing with the kids, not playing enough golf. I had a lacrosse game last night. I got a playoff start next week. That's it. Last seeding. What position do you play? Oh, I'm not playing. Oh, I didn't know you said you had a game.
Starting point is 02:04:18 I'm a coach. You're a coach. Do you know the rules of the game and everything? You get strategy pretty good? I don't get the strategy, but I know the rules relatively decently now. I'm still trying. My daughter plays soccer. I don't get offsides in soccer.
Starting point is 02:04:32 I never will. It makes no sense to me. It's easy. I don't get it, guys. What do you mean you don't get it? It's not easy. It is. The last person on the offensive team can't be in front of the ball behind the last defender?
Starting point is 02:04:44 Second to last defender, counting the goalie. Nonetheless, dude, yeah, it's like do you know the hockey offsides? Do you understand the hockey offsides? No, absolutely not. I've never seen a hockey... It might be a you problem then. Might just be a you problem. I thought this guy just wanted to play sports. Yeah, that's all I want. I don't want to shop. Remember that? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:00 Shopping's the worst, dude. Dude, everybody. It was so relatable. Did you get anything? I was watching that video. I was like, it's so relatable. Did you end up shopping for and buying anything? No, I didn't buy anything. No, I didn't buy anything. I hate buying stuff.
Starting point is 02:05:12 I hate spending money. I just want my sports. Yep. I do hate shopping, though. The worst. I was watching that video, and I was listening. I'm like, preaching to choir, dude. Outside.
Starting point is 02:05:23 You try, right? You try to do it because you understand, okay, I'm like, preaching to choir, dude. You try, right? You try to do it because you understand, okay, I'll go with you, and then you're like, this sucks. It is interesting. Need more TVs in more stores. That's a good idea. And seats. More seats, more TVs.
Starting point is 02:05:38 You know, if everywhere was Dick's House of Sport, where I could go climb a rock wall. Maybe take some hats in the cage. That's right. Maybe go putt some long ones. Oh, this is what Shoffley had to make to win the PGA. That's shopping.
Starting point is 02:05:53 He used to take me to one of his stores with no TVs, no seats, and no... Good idea. What's that? It's a little business right there. A little business. Can you find a way to get a virtual shopping place while also Dick's House of Sporting Goods or something?
Starting point is 02:06:11 It's like staying at home and going on Amazon Prime. No, because unless at home you have a batting cage and a putting green and a basketball hoop. I learned some of these kids are living real sweet on the internet. Just like random kids will have this crazy basketball trick shot. It's like 30 guys bouncing around their mega mansion in their backyard,
Starting point is 02:06:34 going through the pool in their racetrack, looking like Macintosh from Blank Check. God damn, these kids. How old? How old are these kids? Like high school kids. Think about how you've got to be the most unrelatable human being of all time. We went to a friend's house the other night.
Starting point is 02:06:52 And these people are relatively normal humans. They are. I will vouch for them in that regard. Their backyard has field hockey, basketball, tennis court, mini wiffle ball stadium. Stadium. I'm talking fence, scoreboard. But they don't come across like elitist. Okay, got it.
Starting point is 02:07:16 Sure, Robbie. Sure. Definitely believable. I'm excited for the kids to see if they can remain humble. That's going to be tough. That'll be tough. Yep. That's going to be tough.
Starting point is 02:07:23 I hope they – good luck out there. Good luck out there. Great time. A lot of closed doors in that life. Good luck. A lot. A lot of them. Alright, Dano, this ball goes in. How much money are you giving away from that guy and lady that has the Wiffle Ball Stadium in the backyard? You're shooting a shot.
Starting point is 02:07:40 I'll donate $1,000 to the charity of Boston Connors Choice. Holy shit. Money. That is aick Foundation. Money. Bonus ball. That looked good. That is a bonus ball. Let's go.
Starting point is 02:07:50 Did he say the Bill Belichick Foundation? Damn right I did. Oh, no. Oh, no. No. Not the little. Oh, my God. What happened?
Starting point is 02:07:59 Uh-oh. You can't use your hands. Someone get the bandages. Mick, get the bandages. You can't use your hands now. It was a fucking tucked in shirt. Why'd you do it? Why'd you do it?
Starting point is 02:08:07 You don't look like everybody. Lester athlete goes down. Lester athlete goes down. Fuck this. That ball's true. We should have raised money right there. I'm so sorry. What are you doing, dude?
Starting point is 02:08:17 This shirt can't be on. No W ball over? Hey, can I get D-Butt to take a shot? Oh. Yes, sir. Show them my short-term IR right now, his shoulder. Yeah, I hit his shoulder yesterday. Must be all that golf you're playing.
Starting point is 02:08:29 You played golf yesterday? Actually, golf is not my thing. Dan's not supposed to give away money for a good cause. That's what the universe is saying. You watch any WNBA games, Dan? No, I've seen the highlights, but not any games, no. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky Yeah, Dan! Great appearance by Dan
Starting point is 02:08:49 He is part of the problem I'm surprised at Dan because a lot of his UConn friends have played in the WNBA for a long time Yeah, like, you guys actually You guys were the machine Yeah, but they weren't friends, he was just a social butterfly using her.
Starting point is 02:09:06 Hey, look at me. I'm with Diana Taurasi. Look at me. Hey, look, Diana's here. Oh, my. Dan Orlovsky. Hey, Dan was a dog at UConn. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:16 He put football on the map. D-Bud said he actually went to UConn because of Dan Orlovsky. It's part of the reason. Yeah, for sure. Gotta see Big East. Yeah, usually I would be a prick here, but I am being serious. He actually said that.
Starting point is 02:09:27 Yeah, baby, Dan. People forget that whenever he's farting and doing stuff. Big up. Proud of you, Dan. Cover of Sports Illustrated. Dan Orlovsky. Was he? Yeah, he was.
Starting point is 02:09:36 Call him back. Call him back. How come he never reminds people of that stuff? They got Jared Allen chasing him around to fucking end his game. He reminds you of the need to. We went out there at Pro Bowl. All right, let me see what these guys are doing. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:48 He was like, oh, I feel so bad for putting that out. They were talking about how easy I made it look and how bad every other player. Remember when NFL Twitter put out his highlights and he threw some darts, mainly all to Calvin Johnson, but there were some in there. Dan, Dan Orlowski is back joining us. Dan, how come you don't remind people about how good you were at one point playing quarterback in the NFL more often, or quarterback in your football existence more often?
Starting point is 02:10:15 I don't know if that's like a facetious question or not, but I'll answer it honestly. I don't need Terrence Howard to answer it. I don't know. I was really aware of what I was as a player in the NFL. For the more often than not, I was a backup. I thought when I played, I played good, not great and not terrible. I was really good in college, and I was really good in high school,
Starting point is 02:10:40 but that's 25 years ago. Connor just said that Darius once said that one of the reasons why he went to UConn is because Dan Orlovsky was quarterbacking. Put the team on the map. How about Sports Illustrated? I didn't know any of that. That's for sure, brother. Thank you, Dan.
Starting point is 02:10:55 Thank you, Dan. Thank you, Dan. I appreciate D-Butt saying that, man, but D-Butt, he was going to go whatever school was going to give him the opportunity. He was going to make it to the league anyway. He was so talented. All right. That's good.
Starting point is 02:11:08 That's good. I'm happy to hear that. That's nice. That's very nice of you. Hey, why don't you watch the W? I was surprised by that. Yeah, why? I'll be honest with you, dude.
Starting point is 02:11:16 This is just me being dead serious. We're not home ever. On Monday nights, I get home at 8.30. Tuesday, 8.30. Wednesday, 8.30. Thursday, 8.30. Saturday from like 8 to 6, we're on field. Sunday, like we're never home because it's spring sports with our kiddos.
Starting point is 02:11:30 Yeah, tough to watch. We've just been watching the NBA. We've been pretty into the NBA playoffs. Just saying, you don't like the W. No, I got a daughter who's an athlete, and I'm actually going to work with some stuff for girls' sports daughter who's an athlete and I'm actually going to work with some stuff for girls sports that I gotta you know make right
Starting point is 02:11:48 some wrongs that I gotta make some right hell yeah we love to hear that I'm potentially doing something similar probably throughout the existence of my baby girl as well and uh good luck out there Dan we're pulling for you Dan we lost fight the fight. Fight the fight.
Starting point is 02:12:10 He turned me at the end there. I'm an Orlovsky guy again. Money. Oh, that's a bonus. I was around Dan in college. I think I told you guys before at the Walter Camp weekend thing they had when Dan was in his prime.
Starting point is 02:12:24 Yeah, it was in Connecticut as well, so Dan was absolutely the guy. There's players from all over the country there. That was the All-American team, right? Yeah, it was a great weekend. You went to the Playboy team as well, I assume? Yeah, not the mansion, but yeah, the thing. That Playboy All-American thing came and went. Yeah, I didn't know that was a thing either.
Starting point is 02:12:44 Yeah, it was a pretty big deal. That was fun. I don't know if they do that. I don't know how they do it now, but that was a thing either. Yeah, it was a pretty big deal. That was fun. I don't know if they do that. I don't know how they do it now, but that was fun back then as well. That was a pretty big deal with her for a bit. Interesting. Mangold doing belly flops in the pool. I was bummed.
Starting point is 02:12:53 By zip lines. I had quite a year, and I was like... I'm going to be a Playboy All-American. Let's go. They're going to have me out there. I didn't know. Those guys had much better years than me, I guess. I remember that was talked about.
Starting point is 02:13:06 That was very much, just like that Walter Camp thing, that was a big deal if you win it. All those college football awards mattered then. Now they got Zoom calls where people are freezing. These awards matter. We should... That should be a good show.
Starting point is 02:13:21 Build it up. We should let people know. People are going to talk about winning that shit forever. Obviously, guys might have Hall of Fame careers and they'll talk about their Hall of Fame careers. What they do in college ball? They was on fucking Sports Illustrated. Can't even talk about it because Jared Allen chased
Starting point is 02:13:36 him out of the back. Can't even talk about it. That's a big title. Sports Illustrated is back. We thought it was dead, remember? AI was running Sports Illustrated. I think that was all a ploy to potentially get sold to a new company so that maybe they could get rid of some people that they potentially had hired. And now they've almost relaunched.
Starting point is 02:13:53 Some of the people have stuck around. They have a much bigger presence now than I've seen over the last 10 years. Post, I thought they were dead. Have you not seen this? I was just going to say, for people who grew up around us, it's always going to be dead for me because that was a big deal when Sports Illustrated came in the mail. It really was.
Starting point is 02:14:10 You used to look forward to see who was on the cover. Yeah, East Bay, ESPN, the magazine. Once it died with that, yeah, they're on X and stuff like that, and it's good that they're not closing completely, but once they stopped sending the magazines out, for me, that was like, sports illustrated's dead so sports illustrated um i forget what new they've had some news like so they write pieces or they report new like do they have people writing pieces or how's it work yeah just like topical bullshit in sports pretty much throughout
Starting point is 02:14:38 the day and i thought they were dead dead and i think what albert breer that mmqb is like an arm of sports i think jimmy train is still over there yeah content guy or something albert breer's like head of content or something yeah jimmy train is still there who does incredible work it's like there's still some people that we've heard of that are there but i think the big cry that sports illustrated was dead by a lot of people that we didn't really potentially know or i assume they're going to be great or whatever but the news that i got from sports illustrated uh was uh ex-mba referee saying chris paul is the biggest asshole on earth yeah right yeah that's not i came from sports illustrated yep so that was wild to know did you learn did you learn that same time as me i did not
Starting point is 02:15:16 know that yeah i wasn't sure where that was from but yeah i did hear that yeah so i guess an ex referee was talked about how uh an image cultivator is what Chris Paul is. But other than that, he's the biggest asshole in the league. Great name, Bill Spooner. Yeah, Bill Spooner. He was NBA ref for 32 years. This guy's the former Tony Peters. This guy's been around a long time.
Starting point is 02:15:37 The Spoon. That's interesting because they do have a lot of interaction. Taking a shot. You're really taking a shot at Chris Paul. How's Chris going to respond? Yeah, well, Bill Spooner hates Chris Paul. So we will certainly listen for CP's response to that entire thing. I think it's the first time I really heard that openly said
Starting point is 02:15:52 by somebody affiliated with the NBA because Chris Paul, I think, is one of the leaders of the union. He was the president for a while. He was a big part of the whole bubble thing. You know, seemingly a big figure in the NBA. So to hear somebody that's been around 32 years ago, this guy sucks. Yeah, he must really hate his guts. That's why I hated that.
Starting point is 02:16:10 And then there's that Scott Foster story where Scott Foster was talking about, like, hey, I know who I am and how people view me as a face, but I don't want to be known. Obviously, my feud with Chris Paul has been in the media and stuff. Like, I don't see it that way, but the depiction of me in that situation has been, hey, Scott Foster is a piece of shit. Now he's a referee. I'm not saying that.
Starting point is 02:16:32 That is how people have viewed it. Yeah, that is how people have viewed it. That's on us. For so long, yeah, that is how people have referred to Scott Foster. Again, he's probably been an NBA referee for 20, 30 years too. And Chris Paul is good in those commercials. Great. Him and Cliff Paul. good in those commercials. Great. Him and Cliff Paul.
Starting point is 02:16:47 Him and his brother. Yeah. Breaking stuff. What, AJ? What was the yell about? You sound like me talking about The Miz maybe being a good rapper alongside R-Truth every single Monday. God, Mike.
Starting point is 02:17:01 What? The Miz is the man, by the way. The Miz. He has it figured out. He has. Not the song the way. The Miz. He has it figured out. He has. Not the song. I don't know if he has it figured out. Well, the Miz is Miz.
Starting point is 02:17:11 He is very authentic. And I love just everything about him. Did you tell us he did figure something out recently? Yeah, that's what I... He's figured golf out. Uh-oh. You got that six iron straight? Love Miz.
Starting point is 02:17:23 Took a $600 lesson. One? One. Figured it all out. As long as I have my grip strong and then I'm under here. He really believes that stuff. $600 he spent. He shot like $130 every day, didn't he?
Starting point is 02:17:39 I think it may be higher. They actually cut him off. He made him pick up his ball because he can't score any higher in that particular scoring. He never answers. Is that Blocky? On the range right now? He might be on the course right now. Now, Blocky's charging like $25 a pop, so it wouldn't be him.
Starting point is 02:17:53 No, not with those national commercials. No chance. Yeah. Yesterday's price is no longer today's price, says Blocky. This one goes in. Blocky's winning it all. Boom. Come on, Blocky! Boom. I thought it was in. You put $100 on him, you win $100,000.
Starting point is 02:18:11 See you there. See you guys at the bank. Come on, Blocky! Parlay that with the Pacers. Boom. What's your problem? If you parlay that with the Pacers, the sportsbooks don't have enough money. Pacers can win, man. You're better off just wiping your ass with a couple $100 bills. If you parlay that with the Pacers, the sportsbooks don't have enough money. Pacers can win, man.
Starting point is 02:18:25 You're better off just wiping your ass with a couple hundred dollar bills. If you really, you know. Pacers tonight, though, maybe. All the pressure's on the Celtics, though. We know that. You wipe your ass with dude wipes. For sure. Amen.
Starting point is 02:18:36 Every time. One of them. A million dollar bill. Yeah. On your butt. Shout out to dude wipes. Love you, dude wipes. Glad you took over the words for that. Yeah, I got you, buddy. Yeah, we're going to sell it. We out to Dude Wipes. Love you, Dude Wipes. Glad you took over the words for that.
Starting point is 02:18:46 Yeah, I got you, buddy. Yeah, we're going to sell it. We're going to sell it. There's some stuff going on about Joe Burrow on the internet. People are getting duped. Mm-hmm. What do you mean?
Starting point is 02:18:53 It's not about his wrists. No. It's about his sweet hair. Mm-hmm. Photos put out into the universe of Joe Burrow with a sick head of hair. Is that a perm? I think it's old school, yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:07 I think it's old school. Could go off a motorcycle or maybe a serial killing binge. You know, one or the other. How's that possible? Could look sweet. Could be a lot of different jobs and professions. But one thing we know is if that was Joey B's hair,
Starting point is 02:19:20 he'd probably win a Super Bowl. And I think that's maybe where he's headed, but that's not actually his hair, which I'm kind of bummed out about. His hair does look cool. Let's not get crazy. But not nearly as cool as the Photoshop. Now everybody's dicking around with the Photoshop. You can see him with some
Starting point is 02:19:35 Guy Fieri M&M hair if you want right now on the internet. You can see him with a bald head on the internet right now. You can see him with a cowboy head on, which you can't wear, obviously, on the field. But the one big conversation is, how's that risk going to be? AJ, I'm legitimately in – you know, I saw Dr. David Chow quote tweeted one of our things about it all and said with how quickly he got the surgery, as opposed to waiting a season like most defensive guys
Starting point is 02:20:02 or physical guys, they wait until the end of the year to get the surgery. With how quickly he got the surgery, that is going to amplify and expedite the recovery because of the blood flow or lack of blood flow to it. He predicted, I believe in a tweet, it will be vastly different than everybody else. He will be good. This is what Dr. David Chow has said.
Starting point is 02:20:21 Now, if you're a Bengals fan, are you just, yep, absolutely? Because you have to, right? I feel like Joey B's back better than ever. Because we know the history of Joe Burrow and how tough he is. And I know D-Bud had the surgery. I had the surgery. I don't know how different Joe's was than what I had. But yeah,
Starting point is 02:20:38 it's more like, hey, range of motion. Can you move this thing? Can you bend it? And Joe isn't going to be getting hit every day. Also, I had to go hit people in practice as well. So I'd wear a cast every day. And even after the surgery years later, you can definitely re-aggravate it, and it doesn't feel great. But Joe's not going to be hitting every single day.
Starting point is 02:20:55 Not every once in a while. He might take a weird shot in a game, but, yeah, he'll figure it out. You mentioned the blood flow to get to the point. I think Dr. David Chow basically said, yes, you're exactly right, but we fixed that. They fixed that very quickly. No worries at all with Joey B. Except for, what's his hair going to be? No worries. It'll be good.
Starting point is 02:21:13 Don't see him heavily taped when we see him, so that's good. And like Dr. said, Dr. Chow, getting that surgery soon as opposed to playing on it for months and creating more damage, I'm sure that'll help. Yeah, bigger conversation in Cincinnati Bengals is T. Higgins isn't there. Uh-oh. We're at the time of year where guys aren't showing up to organized team activities.
Starting point is 02:21:31 Are they mad? Uh-oh. T. Higgins not there? He's not the only one either. Now, he is not technically being fined for missing these days because he's not technically signed. You see, because it's a franchise tag that he's not signed so he can opt out. There's other guys that are around the league that are potentially setting themselves up to be fined that aren't showing up.
Starting point is 02:21:51 It's like, wait a second, is there some unhappy campers showing up to organize team camp already in the NFL? We'll cover it all, won't we? Won't we, AJ? We will talk about who's pissed and who deserves all the money. That's off-season football, AJ. That's what it is. We know if somebody sits out of any OTAs and they hate the coach,
Starting point is 02:22:09 they hate the organization, and the organization hates them as well. And wait a second. They go on their phone and they edit a profile header, and then they take some photos out. Archive them. And they unfollow some people. They like a few. You like a few things, too.
Starting point is 02:22:24 Oh, it's off-season football. Drama everywhere. Yeah, conference finals time as well for the NBA and the NHL. We're incredibly lucky to be covering it every single day. AJ, you haven't said anything about the Concava Soccer Club's new kits. First off, I love it. I think it looks great. I think Austin was out of line calling you Ellen DeGeneres.
Starting point is 02:22:42 NASCAR Ellen DeGeneres. I never got that vibe one time, even after he said it. I don't understand where he's getting that from, but I do love that. It looks good. I saw me. I took a glimpse at me as he said that, and I said, Is it the belt? Is it tuck in with a white belt?
Starting point is 02:22:55 Is that what it's Ellen's name? It's potentially the way I operate, the way I act, the way I look, and with dude wipes right across my windshield. You know, it is incredibly inconvenient, but boy, I do love dude wipes. The,
Starting point is 02:23:09 the back of the thing, the good news is about this particular kit, I think they're going to be available for sale. Let's go. They feel good. We got the airy back,
Starting point is 02:23:18 the airy back. That's smart. Gotta have it. What kind of shorts do you guys wear? They're going to be short. They're going to be short. I thought you said you were wearing those.
Starting point is 02:23:26 I was thinking about wearing jeans, but as I went to the bathroom, tucked in, as I went to the bathroom, got a little chaffage in the thong. They don't breathe very well either. Down in North Carolina, we were there last night. He's not a problem, just 175%. That's all good.
Starting point is 02:23:42 Good news is, I'm getting word out of Concava SC training camp last week down in South Florida. Yeah. Boys are buzzing. It's going. It's going on? Like the camp happened already? Camp happened already, yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:53 I've seen footage. I've seen the film. Obviously, we're breaking it all down. I support the boys 1,000%. What I also know is you're only going to need about two to three minutes of me. Okay. Okay. Love it.
Starting point is 02:24:03 We're in for a good time. Not a long time. Boys are in great shape. Boys are in great shape. Boys are in great shape. How's Foss doing? I see him recovering every single night. Foss has become more of an executive, I think, for the team. Oh, what?
Starting point is 02:24:14 No, he's got to play. He has to play. He's definitely going to play, yeah. But I'm saying I think the role he took down in training camp was a lot of like, hey, maybe we start doing it. Team organizing. Overstepping stuff. Like a Roy Kent.
Starting point is 02:24:24 He's doing great. He's doing great. And Foss is a great soccer player. Like, F, maybe we start doing this. Team organizing. Oh, okay. Like a Roy Kent. He's doing great. He's doing great. And Foss is a great soccer player. Like, Foss is going to do something fantastic. Professional. He's a professional soccer player. Bingo. But he's going to, he and I both,
Starting point is 02:24:35 and I think any person of a certain age and over at this particular tournament has a real good opportunity. We're going to walk out of there with something severely damaged. Severely. I mean, you got two games the first day, right? Spaced out big time. Yes. Not yet.
Starting point is 02:24:52 Are you more worried about ripping a hammy? I understand what the shorts are. They are amazing. We will debut those at a different time. Now is not the time. I'm worried. Hammy, every ligament in your knee, even the one that starts with an A groin yeah the groin the hip flexor no I mean all of this one is going to be tough the poplatius in the background yeah don't reactivate that soleus IT band soleus already right above the Achilles once that the IT band mine's been tight since I'm four years old Rick
Starting point is 02:25:21 you know you walk with your feet out you should turn your feet in, but you can't because your IT band's so tight. Well, how do I loosen it? Well, you got to get this metal rod and jam it in there every single night. That'll loosen it right up. It's like, okay, well, it looks like I have tight IT bands for the rest of my life. And here we are, 37 years old, going into a fucking soccer tournament with 37 years worth of tight IT bands. Yeah, I'm in trouble, but the boys are buzzing. So if I'm on a wheelchair because I poop my pants like Paul Pierce or tore every muscle in my body, I'm going to be right alongside of the ride for the Concrete. Go, boys.
Starting point is 02:25:51 Hell, yeah. You're going to leave it all out there, right? You're going to leave it all out there on the field. I don't think so, actually. I thought about that as well. Leave what you have. Yeah, I don't think we're ever going to be going. You don't have to run, man.
Starting point is 02:26:01 Cherry pick in the short field. Sit there, cherry pick, and score goals. Yeah, but what if who I was supposed to be guarding ends up scoring? He plays zone. We're playing zone. That's why there's a goalie. They're very good teams, though. So if you're one man down, I assume some of these teams can take advantage.
Starting point is 02:26:14 We got dogs at the back. I love our draw. We got size. I love our draw. Coach Gumpy obviously understands. We will debut full roster sometime in the next week or whatever. And it's like we got real guys. A lot of guys, I'll be meeting
Starting point is 02:26:30 them for the first time down there. But I'm honored to have them on the team. Amen. I need a Foss 38 jersey. Bad. Is that his number? I just assume. 68. Come on.
Starting point is 02:26:44 74. 25. 25. Come on. 74. 25. 25. Is that true? Saw Chad working last night, obviously. Puts a penalty lower left. That's getting stopped. Hits that thing like a kickoff.
Starting point is 02:26:55 Lands on his kicking foot. That was phenomenal. Chad's got smooth. You know, JJ proved he's got touch this weekend with the video that TJ Watt posted. Guys got really. Yes, he does this weekend with the video that T.J. Watt posted. The guy's got really – Yes, he does. He can really strike that thing. Was he trying to have touch on that shot or no?
Starting point is 02:27:10 He was just on breakaway. He obviously broke somebody's ankle. That's going to be so fun whenever we play them for him to be running full speed and either me or somebody on any team just getting in between him and that touch and just turning our back and then just getting absolutely run over. And then J.J. won. Won. Can and just turning our back and then just getting absolutely run over. And then Jay Ward! Ward! Can't do that! Ward and then yellow his eyes. Alright, here we go.
Starting point is 02:27:30 J.J. Watt's soccer is going to be fun. That's going to be fun. He can kick it. He can actually move it. He's too big. He's too big to be on that field with everybody. He shouldn't be out there much. He's going to kill somebody. He and I, I don't know. The way he was talking about it weeks ago versus, I think,
Starting point is 02:27:46 as we're getting closer and closer. In me, same way, by the way. We're both realizing. Are you gaining confidence? Me? Is that what you're saying? In my team or me? Both of you.
Starting point is 02:27:55 You and JJ. More confidence than ever in the team. After the film that I watched. And they've been watching film. Fantastic. My team is fully invested. Great move. Yes. They've been watching film. Fantastic. My team is fully invested. They've been watching film and yeah, I am
Starting point is 02:28:09 very confident. With that being said, with that type of commitment that we've got from Concave SE, all you need me for then is just a couple songs and dances. Yeah, you don't have as big of a cross to bear now. At all. Not that I ever did, but certainly don't now. It's like, alright, I go out there.
Starting point is 02:28:26 Alright, I go off. Go free kick. Okay, some guy that probably doesn't speak English, just want to go booting things. I'm summoning for him. Tag him. Go work there. That guy's going to go run 27 miles an hour for four minutes straight, and he's going to be all over the place.
Starting point is 02:28:42 What are the scores? What are the scores usually? Are they high scoring games I would assume on a small field? Some high, some low. I think the championship was 3 or 4 I think was the game winner. I want to see 15 to 14. I want to see some of that. As we were kicking at the
Starting point is 02:28:56 net that we have outside and we realized that that's double the size of the net. We thought to ourselves that's dumb. The 7 on 7 net should be bigger than a normal net. Yeah. If you're going to have a goalie back there, we want more, like, soccer, we can fix it all here.
Starting point is 02:29:12 You can have success. You need action. Well, it's not just action, it's success. I think if you, like, success draws, like, emotion that is a feel-good. You know, in soccer, I know that there's a different form of success. You know know ball possession kind of handling it keeping the other team out doing this entire thing but like the reason i
Starting point is 02:29:30 think why people enjoy sports that have a lot of success is because it makes you feel good naturally yeah yeah yeah there's a lot of moments to vibe so for the seven on seven things shorter field you got good players you you make that net a little bit all of a sudden we got we got a lot of action yeah and what this is our first time once again we watched one wmba game we wanted a You make that net a little bit. All of a sudden, we got live action. Yeah. And this is our first time. Once again, we watched one WNBA game. We wanted a ref fired, a tone over there. We wanted a coach fired.
Starting point is 02:29:51 And this is our first time ever experiencing TST. Might be perfect after we go through it all. But, yeah, we're taking on the Reggae Rovers first. I think that's a Jamaican national team team. Wow. Yeah, that should be fun. That might be a nice wake-up call in Cary, North Carolina. Byron's got a team in this?
Starting point is 02:30:06 Yeah, I think there's a lot of teams in this thing. I think guys are going to flop like normal soccer. Are guys going to flop and lay on the ground for 30 minutes? Oh, yeah. You're not allowed to slide, though, which is a devastating development if you can't slide. Unless J.J. Watt has a ball,
Starting point is 02:30:21 I thought. I'm sure there will be guys that are going at both he and I's ankles pretty hard, which I always got to keep an eye out for. But once again, I'm 245 pounds. Am I quick enough to avoid somebody coming after my ankles? Yes, yes. But also. AJ, I don't know, buddy.
Starting point is 02:30:38 I mean, they're shifty. They're crafty. They are. But, you know, they don't know. They haven't faced you. They haven't seen a JJ on the field. I mean, 245, come get some. Yeah, that's not soccer.
Starting point is 02:30:47 Good luck, pal. Yeah, it's a different sport. Yeah, absolutely. But still, come get it, bitch. They might take the ball, but they're going to know that you were there. Okay, you're saying let's get the J.J. I can feel it. Okay.
Starting point is 02:30:57 No, no, no. If they want to come steal the ball, you just stand your ground. And it's concave for soccer. Yeah. It's concave for soccer. Never back down. You're going to say that on the field. It's goingcave for soccer. Yeah. It's concave for soccer. Never back down. You're going to say that on the field. It's going to be awesome.
Starting point is 02:31:08 So many. That's good concave for soccer. Yeah. We've got some big fucking dudes on our team. There you go. Fucking right. That have some real experience and are in great shape. Word out of training camp is everybody is in phenomenal shape.
Starting point is 02:31:20 That's huge. Everyone's American too, right? No. Oh. No Canadians though. That's the team we're going to play right? No. Oh. No Canadians, though. That's the team we're going to play against. No Canadians? No Canadians.
Starting point is 02:31:30 Chet Holmgren is not on the Reggae Rovers. No, not. No, sorry. Chet Hanks is not on the Reggae Rovers. He's coaching us. I was bummed out. I really was. Well, it is the start of the summer.
Starting point is 02:31:41 And from what he said, it's probably not his time to be a coach right now. What do you mean? Chet Hanks has officially declared this summer as a white boy summer. I'm happy. I thought that was last summer. I think you got certain people it would be every summer that has ever existed. That was a couple summers ago.
Starting point is 02:32:00 But now that Chet Hanks is speaking for us, that's great. Alright, let's get out of here. He broke it down to his dad. Yes, he did. He broke it down. What up, Maine? One word.
Starting point is 02:32:10 What does dad say? Hey, big Maine. Yeah, that's just the dad trying to make sure his son's still alive. And he did. And he is. Yeah, Chet's jacked right. More alive than ever. Rude boy. More alive. For Chet's jacked right now. More alive than ever. Rude boy.
Starting point is 02:32:25 More alive. For Chet. Why don't you go at the final bosses? Look at that picture. Yeah, dude. He's locked in right now. I see you, Chet. I see you.
Starting point is 02:32:41 All right, I've met one of these guys about 100 times in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Who, Bill McComas? I thought it was Gump real quick. Gee, that could be a lot of people. Yeah. That is, I mean, white, white. Yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 02:32:55 That's got to look like Coach McComas. Oh. For Chet. All right. Let's get out of here. I can't. If you show that, I can't have success. That's immediately the case. All right. We're back tomorrow. We we got a good show tomorrow oh yeah who's on tomorrow there's uh we got some like electrifying stuff tomorrow yes uh not no
Starting point is 02:33:14 no pavs is on i do believe pavs there it is yeah that is no we gotta yeah or is that for thursday patrick mahomes will be on boom Boom. Oh yeah, breaking news. Thursday, Patrick Mahomes will be on the program. Let's go. That's a big deal. Huge. Good coffee, too. He does have some coffee that's, I think, on the way. He also had a completion at the F1 race that people
Starting point is 02:33:37 said was the most athletic thing that happened at the F1. That was crazy. That's great. Can't wait to talk to him about that. Yeah. Most exciting thing. Most exciting thing at the end certainly as i think was turning sideways like is it gonna make it is it gonna make it and then that that that f1 driver caught that thing perfectly boom it was a great catch athlete great hands they got good hand act coordination they really do that video of tyree kill yeah that is very very impressive that's what they're training i think they even have like weighted wheels that they like have to hold.
Starting point is 02:34:06 They got to do it. Their neck too. Yeah. They're legit. Yeah. Yeah. The humans inside. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:11 Yeah. Because they're pulling G's. A bunch of G's. Pulling a bunch of G's. Right? Yeah. Stuts. Let's not.
Starting point is 02:34:17 Don't get it twisted. Let's not be crazy. They need to reconfigure how the race runs, I think. But there's guys in the car. Yeah. We need more bumping. We need a little bit more adding. We need to rub. Can we have a race? Let's just race, actually. Because everything's a race runs, I think. But there's guys in the car. Yeah, we need more bumping. We need a little bit more adding. We need more rubbing.
Starting point is 02:34:26 Can we have a race? Let's just race, actually, because everything's a time trial, I feel. More rubbing, more racing. Hey, max loss in Miami. I do remember. And then what happened? And then he won by.7 seconds. I mean, cool, that's a race.
Starting point is 02:34:37 That's a decade in F1. Yeah. Might as well be a little lap. D-Bud, do you think you'll ever come off this F1 situation? They've traded D-Bot very well. Probably not. Good time. This dude's walking
Starting point is 02:34:50 around with Rolexes. Yeah. It's a good time. You're Jay Leno. Taking pictures with Jay Leno. You should never come off that.
Starting point is 02:34:55 Good time. Agreed. D-Bot. And we do need a representative from F1 on this show. Agreed. Agreed.
Starting point is 02:35:01 So that we can say. I tried to watch it, you know, which I will try this weekend. Big one. Super Bowl. Monaco. It is F1 Super Bowl happening Sunday morning on ESPN. Yeah!
Starting point is 02:35:14 F1 Monaco! I learned about Monaco's laws from a Joe Pompliano tweet. Holy shit. Good laws. Sorry, Miami. Huh? Really? Oh, Joe.
Starting point is 02:35:22 Joe Pompliano's in with the F1, I assume, as he should be. That seems like Joe Pompliano's sport. He was talking about Monaco's loss. Wow. Yeah. I understand. Great weather. Like with what?
Starting point is 02:35:33 What kind of different laws? Just no taxes at all. No, none at all. 80% of the people that live there are millionaires? Yeah, something like that. Is that what it was? Seems like a little bit of a tax haven, maybe. But nonetheless, sounds like a great one.
Starting point is 02:35:44 Yeah, not'd that play? They love it over there. They got yachts and this F1 race is their Super Bowl this Sunday. Then the Indy 500 will be on shortly afterwards. Might be able to watch it depending upon where you are. Should watch it. It is a good race. And then the Coca-Cola is 600.
Starting point is 02:35:59 Boom. What a day of racing coming on Sunday. I think the pole sitter for the Indy 500 might be on the program. Okay. Mike? No, might be on the program. McLaughlin. Yeah, Mike McLaughlin.
Starting point is 02:36:13 I don't think that's his first name. God damn it, Tony. Scott. Scott. Scott. Scott McLaughlin. Jeez. It's a McLaughlin.
Starting point is 02:36:20 Yeah, that's racing. That's moving. Yeah, that's racing. Fucking historic speed. Why are they called pole sitter? Because he's on. That's moving. Yeah, that's racing. Fucking historic speed. Why are they called pole sitter? Because he's on top of the pole. You see, the pole is the thing that has the order of everybody that's in the race. And he's sitting on top of the pole, so he is a pole sitting son of a bitch.
Starting point is 02:36:40 What? For the Indy 500, AJ Hawk. I never really knew. Honestly, I didn't really know. So the pole is the thing that has their order. Yes, and that'll update as the race goes. That's sweet. It's kind of a massive piece of the entire operation there.
Starting point is 02:36:54 You know, because you can either... They don't have a Jumbotron, do they? It's hard. They got TVs in a couple of the corners. Coming out of corner three. Yeah. You still bring all your own coolers, a beer, you still bring everything in, right? Yeah, a lot of people bringing a lot of stuff into that track
Starting point is 02:37:08 300,000 people all just kind of bringing whatever they got Into that thing It is loaded, impacted the gills The beginning of the race is worthy of watching though Like the spectacle before the race Fly over the singing The song, it is pretty sick Any of the gentlemen start your engines?
Starting point is 02:37:24 The pageantry the drivers who's doing it this year yeah hopefully Kevin James Pippa's not in the race I know but in years past Billy Gardell what is he gonna start he goes the gentleman driver starts your engines he's waving the flag up there hanging off that's Kevin James Kevin James has to do it every single time he's got the greatest talk about, hanging out. That's Kevin James. Kevin James has to do it every single time. I thought we were talking about Billy Gardell. Yeah, that's right. I thought it was Billy Gardell.
Starting point is 02:37:49 Oh, you think Kevin James is Billy Gardell? You piece of shit. No, not at all. I never mentioned Kevin James. I said Billy Gardell should do it. Yeah, but you were referencing Kevin James doing it from a few weeks back. Did he do it? Oh, he did?
Starting point is 02:38:01 No, honestly, I did not know Kevin James. No, okay. He's very good at what he does. That was the guy from Hitch, dude. Yeah. King Queens. King Queens. I now pronounce you Chuck and Larry.
Starting point is 02:38:12 He did it right after that came out. The Sam Man movie. And the Saints. He was Sean Payton. And Doc, yeah. Yeah, this one. Wait, you think I was referencing this from 1995? No, this isn't from 1995.
Starting point is 02:38:24 Start your engine! Wait, you think I was referencing this from 1995? No, this isn't from 1995. Hold on. You got to do the whole thing. He should do it every year. He should do it every year. God bless our troops. God bless America. And gentlemen, start your engines. Yes.
Starting point is 02:38:45 Pepsi jacket on. Chuck and Larry. Yes. Pepsi jacket on. Chuck and Larry. Yes. Yes, he's got it all. He should do it every year. For every race, forever. All right, so he's not doing a Coca-Cola 600, obviously, with the jacket, but they should pluck him. They should.
Starting point is 02:38:58 Yeah, he should go with Larson. He can fly with Larson. All right. What a time. We're lucky to be here. We can't take enough. Let's get the fuck out of here. Be a friend.
Starting point is 02:39:06 Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Even officials. Even officials. Remember to do that. Absolutely. Shout out to the refs. Shout out to the refs.
Starting point is 02:39:14 Keep doing it, refs. Let's stop calling bullshit fouls on Kaitlin Clark, though. Yeah. That would be good. And let's make sure we remember that small market teams are allowed to win when the Pacers travel into Boston tonight. That's true. You're allowed to let the small market team, you know, get away with a little rough and tough.
Starting point is 02:39:34 You're allowed to let T.J. McConnell maybe instill his dogness on the Boston Celtics. Not just the team, the whole fucking building. Yeah, 124-98. See you there. That's the final score? Tonight, yep. I love that the Pacers the whole fucking building. Yeah, 124-98. See you there. That's the final score? Tonight, yep. I love that the Pacers are filling it up.
Starting point is 02:39:49 Another 120-point game for the Indiana Pacers. Just keep thinking that. Keep waiting. Wait until you see the storm that's coming tonight because it's coming, and it's a big one. Yeah, but Rick Carlisle will hop on his fucking boat, okay, and he will wade the waters of the storm. And then game one, maybe.
Starting point is 02:40:08 We might be tired. We just fucking had to garden out Madison Square Garden. We had to put a whole new bunch of fucking seed down. We got tomatoes going. So we might be tired. So maybe game one, you guys do your thing. Maybe it is 124-98. That doesn't rattle this Pacers team.
Starting point is 02:40:22 They wake up the next day and say, we're going into Boston. We're fucking stealing one. So don't worry about the score tonight, even though it would be nice to win. Yeah, absolutely. And Rick Carlisle is awesome. You also know Joe Mazzulla. So I think you also know what they might be thinking over there. Joe Mazzulla is a dog. Hembo sent me some stats. Interesting stats from Hembo.
Starting point is 02:40:40 Actually, I'm happy we brought this up when we were talking about coaching and things of that nature. Pacers have allowed the fewest threes in the NBA during the regular season. Points per game between the Pacers and the Celtics in the first 10 seconds of shot clocks this postseason. Pacers 51, Celtics 33. We're going a little faster. You guys want to get in your sets, you can.
Starting point is 02:41:01 Over the last three postseasons, from 2022 to 2024, Boston, this is the big one, Boston has lost 16 playoff games when favored. No other team has lost more than nine. Whoa. Whoa. What team has been favored the most in the playoffs every single game for the last five years?
Starting point is 02:41:21 Now, to be clear with what you just said there, no team has ever outscored its opponent by as much as the Celtics have. And not won the title. Okay. So it's kind of expected for the Celtics to go on and win this entire thing no matter who they be playing. And the Hicks from little old Indianapolis are the ones that made it to the Eastern Conference Finals.
Starting point is 02:41:38 Can't wait to see it get started tonight. Good luck to you and your Celtics tonight. I appreciate that. I will not reciprocate the luck. Good luck to the refs.ics tonight. I appreciate that. I will not reciprocate the luck. Good luck to the refs. That's fair. That's fair. A big city, you know.
Starting point is 02:41:48 One of the fondest cities in the country. I'm not wasting my luck on the Pacers. I'm sending it all to Boston. What are we talking about here? All the pressure's on them. Celtics, for sure. All of it. All of it.
Starting point is 02:41:58 Oh, my God. In Boston? Which is much different than this entire season. Would be. Now. Hard. Not as if we, you if we decide not to talk. I mean, you mentioned it.
Starting point is 02:42:06 Look, we didn't talk about the Celtics all year because it was kind of like Georgia two years ago. Well, we didn't talk much NBA all season. And a lot of people are saying that. We watched every game, though. Absolutely. We knew what was going on. Yeah, we'll wait until after the draft.
Starting point is 02:42:19 A lot of people in comments saying that we don't know what the fuck we're talking about. They're wrong. Okay, comment. I had boots on a wood. How many fever games have they been to? How many Fever games have they been to? How many Pacers games have they been to? Bingo. Would have been to the Fever game last night,
Starting point is 02:42:30 but I was down in Greensboro, North Carolina, semifinals, King, Queen, and Ring. Exactly. We would have been. It was a great show. Why didn't you go? I was in Greensboro, South Carolina. Which one?
Starting point is 02:42:42 Whichever one you were at. It was okay. I actually thought he died. Which one? Whichever one you were at. Hey, who's so okay? I actually thought he died. Ring General put him to sleep as we went off the air. I didn't expect that. But Jay never quit. That's kind of the... He ain't happy.
Starting point is 02:42:55 Celtics Pacers is kind of similar to Roman and Cody, though. Yeah, Tyrese needs to finish his story. Yeah, exactly. Maybe. Who's going to be John Cena? That's going to come running story. Yeah, exactly. Maybe. Who's going to be John Cena? That's going to come running out. Scott Foster. Antonio Peters.
Starting point is 02:43:10 Yep. Then who's going to be The Rock? Joe Mazzullo. TJ McConnell. And then The Undertaker. Who's that? Brad Stevens from up top. Or Zingas. Come back, man.
Starting point is 02:43:20 Hold that. Is he back? I hope he doesn't play. We don't need him. Let's just save it for the finals. I think you do. You hope you don't need him, but if the Pacers are winning somehow, we were injured.
Starting point is 02:43:31 We didn't even have – that'll be the whole thing. And if Terrence Howard finishes his engineering degree, then what's the point of worrying about stuff that's never going to happen? Three credits away. That's it? One class. How often do you think we're going to refer to Terrence Howard's knowledge throughout the rest of this offseason? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:43:47 Hopefully today was the last. Die! No way. You don't like the fact that the three-dimensional objects are actually five-dimensional? I just don't like how you go on Joe Rogan and all of a sudden everyone's like, holy shit, this guy's the smartest guy of all time. It just makes so much sense. People saying that? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:44:03 There were a lot of people saying that. I was wondering the reaction. Really? 50-50. It split right so much sense. People saying that? Yeah. There were a lot of people saying that. I was wondering the reaction. Really? It split right down the middle. The biggest tweet that I saw, I think it had 10,000 retweets, it said, this guy is either going through a schizophrenic break or he is the smartest person on the entire planet. That is where everyone sits, really.
Starting point is 02:44:20 And that's the Joe Rogan experience. Boom. Can't wait to listen. And that's the Joe Rogan experience. Boom. Can't wait to listen. Think about Joe. Joe has a platform that can sway policies around the world.
Starting point is 02:44:34 Think about that pressure. So imagine Terrence Howard sitting down on this show going into his things. Yeah, that sounds right to me. I would have no idea. How did Joe handle it did joe know what he was talking about i mean terence did a lot of the talking for sure but i feel i mean i know from at least i'm sitting there i'm thinking all right i'm just not smart enough to understand anything of what he is saying kept me there he's pretty well read though like he knows definitely does research he has to because he literally is the biggest platform in the world, maybe, at this point, with the amount of listeners that he has
Starting point is 02:45:12 and followers that he has. And the things that they talk about actually affect society. Like, things that actually take place. So I think he has to know. I watched five clips from that thing. I'm bat zero. I didn't understand a fucking word Jack White is pretty upset about it too Is that the periodic table?
Starting point is 02:45:31 Jack White What do you say? That's not actually the 7 nation army It's actually a 14 nation army If you start doing the math Is that what he said? He said something referencing When I need information I go to a comedian and Terrence Howard.
Starting point is 02:45:49 You know, Terrence Howard. He meant something. I read it. He was upset. He was upset at the platform and all that. Not as pissed as Eddie Vedder at Harrison Bucker. Oh, you're right. Eddie Vedder's not happy.
Starting point is 02:45:58 Harrison Bucker. Kansas City star. Yeah. Is he at OTAs? Harrison Bucker? He better make every kick this year, pal. No one cares about last year. At Super Bowl.
Starting point is 02:46:13 Do you think he knew the reaction that it would get? Absolutely. Now, he was speaking. And once again, he went against something like the me and my wife literally used to create our baby. So, like, he attacked a lot. Women are obviously the most pissed about what he said. But, like, he was talking to a Catholic. I do, that is a good question.
Starting point is 02:46:31 He definitely knew that was going to get out, right? Had to. I know he knew it would get out, but I'm saying, did he know how it would be so, like, just the effect it would have and how upset people would be? It's probably his goal, I would assume. Really? I think.
Starting point is 02:46:44 Because it's not the first time, I know at least I've heard him speak. I never go and actually listen to the whole speech. But, you know, you can disagree with it, obviously. But, you know, free speech or whatever, it's not only when you agree with something, you disagree with it. You're like, oh, he's full of shit. But he's got it right. Especially with that crowd.
Starting point is 02:47:00 It was like he was talking to a lot of people. They're talking about Latin masses. That is the most Catholic crowd of all time. For me, though, I didn't know that was the belief of that particular religion at the most extreme level or the most... It's a lot of these religions. Everybody's different.
Starting point is 02:47:18 I think there's a lot of different... Think of no one saying that shit at Notre Dame's graduation, which is what I mean? A lot of Catholic people go to that. Coach actually. Coach has spoken. Alright.
Starting point is 02:47:33 We just need to know that this exists. This exists. People feel this way. And there's going to be people that are pissed. You're allowed to be pissed. That's your freedom of speech. You should be pissed. But also, for me, it was like was like wow I didn't know people still felt that way. I had no idea. Alright.
Starting point is 02:47:49 We'll be back tomorrow. Could have guessed but What a show. Michael Cole right there in front of Boston Corner now. He posted a screenshot from the show yesterday on his ex and said you you know,
Starting point is 02:48:05 finally some professionalism and some journalism or something like that on the Pat McAfee show. And he's been there for the last few days. And I'll tell you what, it was kind of weird that he's just kind of staring off at a distance here. Every time I look over your table, I like to think that he is intently listening to Darius talk at all times. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:24 And he's, he has something to say, but he's deciding, you know what? I'll tell Darius talk. Oh, at all times. Yeah, and he has something to say, but he's deciding, you know what, I'll tell D-Butt later. When did we find out that Michael Cole has merch? That was something. He has merch. You can buy a Michael Cole shirt, the voice of WWE, with a great photo of Michael Cole.
Starting point is 02:48:38 Oh, yeah, fantastic. He looks young. He's got his soul patch still. I think it was before Mania. I was told, hey, at WrestleMania, there will be Michael Cole merch there at the store. You can go get it. I do believe there were some business decisions
Starting point is 02:48:50 made. No, I don't think they sold out, brother. I think they were like, hey, I don't think we need Cole. Oh, and another CM Punk show. Let's go Punk and Wyatt here, and then we'll release Cole a couple weeks before the Greensboro show. What's one of the rest? Michael Cole,
Starting point is 02:49:04 the voice of WWE. The one on the right is his Jumbotron when he comes out. Just says Michael Cole across it. What a legend. Look at the Michael Cole stamp on the back and between the shoulder blades. Good shirt. Yeah, it's a bummer. I'm never going to wear that one, but I got the other one to wear.
Starting point is 02:49:19 Why no Coltrane or coal miners? I don't know if they know. Does the merch department know about the Coltrane? They should. About dumping whiskey in a beer? Hard to imagine. Good drink. That's a good drink.
Starting point is 02:49:32 It's something. I saw a video of me drinking it the night before WrestleMania. Oh, yeah. I had to knock it down smooth. I'm new to those things. Yeah, I did. I did take it down. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:49:41 It's Coltrane. You have to. You got to do it. All right, let's get out of here. Team on me. We're in this thing together. Let's never out of here Team on me We're in this thing together Let's never forget it Team on me See you tomorrow
Starting point is 02:49:49 Good one tomorrow Hell yeah Team on me Team on three One two three Team Good one

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