The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1139 - Feel Good Friday With Austin Rivers, Michael Lombardi, Pirates Pitchers Paul Skenes & Jared Jones, Paul Bissonnette, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: May 31, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the Mavericks officially closing out the TWolves to move on to the NBA Finals, the Florida Panthers taking a commanding 3-2 series lead over the New York Rangers after winning a game in New York, and all the different stories floating around the NFL and sports world as a whole. Joining the show are several incredible guests including 12 year NBA veteran and ESPN NBA analyst Austin Rivers (5:11-22:49), 3x Super Bowl Champion, NY Times best-selling author, host of the GM Shuffle and Lombardi Line, Michael Lombardi (23:47-56:00), Pittsburgh Pirates phenoms, The Hundo Boys, Jared Jones and Paul Skenes (1:06:38-1:22:23), and long time NHL veteran, co-host of Spittin’ Chiclets, and NHL analyst for the NHL on TNT, Paul Bissonnette (1:31:43-1:54:12). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you on Monday. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sports! Sports! Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this feel-good Friday, May 31st, 2024. This program starts right now! Sports! Man, they're the greatest thing on earth, aren't they? Hell yeah! Last night there was multiple playoff games in two different leagues and I'll tell you what, it was a beautiful evening. in two different leagues, and I'll tell you what,

it was a beautiful evening. Not only did the Dallas Mavericks just beat the shit out of the Minnesota Timberwolves to win that series in advance to the NBA Finals against the Boston Celtics starting next week, the Florida Panthers go into New York and take a 3-2 series lead after a 3-2 game winner. And I will say this, for a time in sports in which they aren't our leagues, we can't thank sports enough for being as electrifying as they are being. Because even in the blowout of the Minnesota Timberwolves last night, there was enough to watch to make you stay

interested in the game. Mostly, who could taunt you saying to himself, everybody's talking about the next face of the NBA. Everybody has every other name that they want to be up there as the new one that's going to carry the NBA. Wemby, this guy's an alien. Ant-Man, this guy's a dog. He's the guy. Hey, maybe Tatum or Jalen Brown or maybe anybody except for this particular fella who just went absolutely bonkers.

He was hitting shots literally from the logo, so you've got to guard him outside. But then he has enough moves to go inside and hit you in the paint. He's talking shit the entire time. And Snoop Dogg's watching the game, and all he can literally do a couple different times is like, what is this guy playing? He's playing a different sport than everybody

else, and he tagged him alongside Kyrie. Luka outscored the Minnesota Timberwolves in the first quarter. Luka and Kyrie outscored the Minnesota Timberwolves in the entire first half Luka and Kyrie outscored the Minnesota Timberwolves in the entire first half. It was a blowout literally from the beginning all the way through. But congrats to the Dallas Mavericks making it to the finals. Banking home shots like that, skipping away on one foot. If those are going to continue to fall, we're going to have a great series with this Boston Celtics team

that has been phenomenally dominant through the Eastern Conference of this entire playoff series. Most recently, sweeping a very talented and gritty Indiana Pacers squad. I think we're in for a good one. Doesn't start until next week, though, because both of these things ended so quickly. And obviously with TV schedules and yada, yada, yada. So the boys should be feeling good. They should be rested up. And we should be in for a great one.

Now, we are staring down a ton. Right around the corner. I don't love it at all. A couple weeks away. So let's make sure we enjoy the hell out of this right now. The Toxic Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. You got a tripping balls wolf on your shirt. I love that. Yeah, yeah. Again, just reaching

purple. You know, feel good Friday. I thought, I'll wear a purple shirt today. I love the color purple. That's literally the only reason why you did that? That is for shoot. The only reason why I grabbed it. It happened to be this one. There are multiple purple shirts, but I just decided, you know what? I like that shade of purple.

Hey, go plum Mustangs. One half of the hammer. Cowboys, Tone Diggs is here. Now, Tone, hockey obviously going to remain exciting over the next couple days, but basketball takes a break for about five days or so, a week or whatever it is. It's like, are we going to get bummed out? What are we going to do, just gamble on baseball? Is that what you're going to be doing?

Yeah, we're still on the first five trades. We've been doing it all year. Explain, please. First five for baseball is instead of betting the full game, the full nine innings, you only have to bet the first five, so the winner after the first five. Which is normally the aces taking each other on, so you have a little bit more information on who's going to be playing who's not going to be playing you don't need to know what the bullpen is going to do because the starter should be finishing at least five innings because that's how long it takes

to document a win or a loss exactly a little less research so you can you can just look at the starting pitchers you don't have to see who in the bullpen pitched yesterday or the day before are they not going today and then the opposing hitters so yeah that't have to see who in the bullpen pitched yesterday or the day before. Are they not going today? And then the opposing hitters. So, yeah, that's going to come more to the forefront here after these finals and stuff ends. And that's really all you got. Well, actually, we got a nice little summer coming up. So now I don't know how everyone feels about it,

but we got the Euros of soccer to battle. Oh, the Europes. We also have the Summer Olympics this summer. So it's actually, as far as summers go, best case scenario. In four years, at least. So we're pumped about that, obviously. And you talk about aces. We'll have Paul Skeens and Jared Jones

of the Pittsburgh Pirates, the Hunter Boys, the Allegheny Electric Company, Pittsburgh, I believe, Jet Pass, it might have slipped in yesterday, or he just was choking on something while he was talking, and he said Pittsburgh. We'll be talking both the guys that are throwing over 100 miles an hour for the Pittsburgh Pirates and bringing hope and optimism to a town that hated the sport for a long time

back. And it should be a blast. We never talk to two people at the same time unless it's a Japanese man who doesn't speak a lot of English. He has an interpreter next to him. We'll be talking to both the Hunter boys at the same exact time. Normally, these suck. I'm going to say it.

But I think with the way these two have been working together perfectly in unison. As two rookies that are taking over the MLB. Two different fashions. One fresh out of college. One's been around a little bit. It is his rookie campaign still. So I think it'll go well. We'll also have Paul Bizonette joining us of Spit and Chick with the podcast.

And also TNT's NHL coverage in the second hour. We'll also have Michael Lombardi joining us in about 10 minutes to chit-chat about OTAs and what needs to be chatted about in the NFL that's real and what's not real. And joining us right now is a man who, every time he comes on here, he just preaches that gospel.

What an incredible guest. So smart. The person that I hear most say from friends and people I run into, they go, I hated Austin Rivers. That guy was the worst. Yep. Duke guy. Bullshit guy.

Nepotism. Hate this guy. Because of his dad, they said. And then they say, he comes on your show. I love that guy. He's the best. That guy's awesome. That's a guy you need to have on your show more often.

What a baby-faced turn for him. Ladies and gentlemen, Austin Rivers. That's what people say, dude. A lot of that. A lot of that. The intros are just getting better and better. I love it every time I come on here. Thank you guys for having me once again.

I appreciate it. Well, it's the reality of the situation. You know, whenever I get out and about. Nepotism? Well, I don't think we've... We disagree.'s the reality of the situation. You know, whenever I get out and about. Nepotism? Well, I don't think we've – No, we disagree. That just kind of came in. That was more so the, you know, people just said,

hey, you're only in the league because your dad's out. I was a top ten pick. I was a top ten pick. Exactly. That's because your dad. Bronny's about to be a top ten pick as well, nonetheless. Bronny won the number one player in the – Boom!

Boom. And I also led my team in scoring as a freshman at a university called Duke. Not too bad. I'm only a very select few who's done that. Let me talk my shit today. Yeah, absolutely, as you should. And I think this is potentially a reason why people enjoy you. And the nepotism thing, obviously, Ty heard that from his neighbors.

But you are the human that whenever I go out and about and I catch up with people that I haven't talked to in a long time and they watch the program or whatever, they go, thought Austin Rivers was a massive piece of shit. I had no idea. And then he comes on your show. He's all, I'm being serious when I say this, people love you on the program. I hope you get to feel that. We're very thankful that you come on here. I gotta be honest with you. Um, I have gotten a lot of good publicity from, from, from of good publicity from being on this show. And when I say good publicity, I've always gotten publicity,

but this is positive one. This is good. Baby face. Yeah, yeah. I love it. And I actually enjoy coming on the show and talking to you guys, so I appreciate you having me. Well, we hate it, but it works.

So let's get through this as quick as possible. No. Last night, Luca decided they were going to win that game. And obviously Kyrie and he went bananas. He beat the Minnesota Timberwolves in the first quarter himself. He and Kyrie beat the Minnesota Timberwolves in the entire first half by themselves with what they scored. It is a dominating performance in a knockout game. And you heard Charles Barkley and Shaq and everybody on the TNT inside the NBA crew.

Charles Barkley was embarrassed for the Timberwolves. Like, hey, you're the desperate ones here. You're the ones that are supposed to show up like the Mavericks showed up. Why do you think the Mavericks did that? Do you think they were pissed that there wasn't a sweep? And do you think they can carry this emotion into a very hostile TD Garden Boston Celtics team? You know, Dallas reminds me of one of those teams that, like,

hit stride at the right time in the NCAA tournament. You ever see one of those teams that was, like was good all year, and then the NCAA tournament comes, and they just hit stride and now they're hot? They're playing a level of basketball that I have not seen them play, particularly on the defensive end. I always knew Luka could score, Kyrie could score, but now they're doing it in unison. P.J. Washington, Gafford, all these additions that they got midseason proved to be huge, huge additions. And then Luka's just the baddest player on the planet with the basketball in his hands right now, man.

I mean, let's just call it what it is. He's unbelievable. And I love Ant. I love Shea. I love some of these other young players. Tatum. Luka's the best player in the NBA. And the only person that you could say outside of that or who has a chance to even be that would be Nikola.

Because he's won three MVPs. You've got to put him in the conversation out of respect. But this dude right here, first off, just for Boston fans, leave him alone. Leave him alone. Every fan that does this thing with him and gets him angry, he ends up just cooking and just destroying everything in sight in front of him. He did this versus Phoenix. He did it versus the Clippers when a fan got into it with him.

And then yesterday, he's looking over there chatting with Snoop Dogg. Up 30, look at him. Look at him. Look at him. Look at this guy. Yeah, he told somebody, cry now, motherfucker. Who's crying now, motherfucker? He said to someone.

I mean, it's like there's people that need that or, like, are motivated by that type of stuff. And, obviously, we've seen the videos of the basketball that he grew up in in the arenas you know it's like i think he yeah he does need somebody potentially to like flip the switch there's some people like that austin yeah he looks for something like that it's like sometimes he'll shoot or he'll complain he'll look at the crowd looking for someone to give him that and then he'll just be like you know what that's my next five minutes i'm gonna go at that guy five minutes and it's gonna be because of you i went on this 12-0 run dude's shooting it four feet behind the line step backs brother he's unbelievable

and the fact that he does this with very little athleticism just shows you the level of skill that this guy has very little athleticism or is that because always traditional? Because he's white? Okay. Oh, we get it. Yeah, he's in early. He leaves late. Coach's son. I should say traditional athlete because he's not like your traditional, you know, jumping, quick athlete. Okay, yeah, can't dance.

Yeah, all right. We get it. He does everything. Not coordinating. Yeah, we understand what you're trying to say here, okay? And half of you is being very hypocritical right now. That's right. I just want to let you know that.

No, the other half of me is like, what the hell are we doing right now, guys? I hear you. I'm conflicted a lot of times when I talk about Luka, but he is athletic. It's just in a different way. But he is unbelievable, man. Body control, controlling a game, getting fouls. My god, man. He's box office. In my eyes, he's

the best guard in the NBA. And he's showing at this playoffs, again, just how dominant he is. There's nothing you can do with him. He gets to any spot he wants to. He picks the way he was able to pick the defensive part. Minnesota, the number one defensive name in the NBA, by the way, unbelievable. He's crafty, obviously, sneaky, athletic, like all those things.

We get it. We understand. He's a dog. He is. He's a dog. So that leads me to this question. Because of Anthony Edwards' dogness, we will say, throughout the playoffs that we were seeing, and him talking shit and how he plays in his competitive edge, we all fell in love.

And by we, I mean people that are kind of outside of the NBA. that we were seeing and him talking shit and how he plays and his competitive edge. We all fell in love. And by we, I mean people that are kind of outside of the NBA. Then the NBA folks started saying, hey, this is the new face of the league here. Ant-Man's going to be the new face of the league. Obviously, Wemby, he's going to be the next face of the league. Nobody really talks about Luka. Is that because he's just so untraditional, the way he plays basketball in the NBA?

And I don't mean that by he's white, but because he moves slow. He doesn't seemingly, he's not super flashy. Not dunking on people. Is that why? Or what do you think it is? I think sometimes we get, just in the media in general,

I think we get used to greatness. You know what I mean? This is a guy who's been first team all NBA five years in a row. So it's not like he hasn't been spectacular. No other young player has that type of title that they can say. Tatum's made first team this year and a couple other years. This has been a continued thing for Luka.

He's been the baddest guard in the league for a while now. His game isn't the most exciting if you're talking about vertical in the air and all that, but it's like Nikola. I think Nikola's one of the more exciting players to watch in the league. Other people might not, but I think it is. The fact that they're able to use their skill and IQ to dominate the game at such a high level, I think is amazing. And I think he's the most entertaining or one of the most entertaining players to play in basketball or watch play basketball right now, just due to the fact of how competitive he is.

I love him. I love how he goes out there. He talks his shit. He don't care who it is, who's watching, who's guarding him. Like you said, the league pushed Ant as that guy. Luka came in there and said, listen, Ant is a great player, but I'm the alpha. I'm the guy. I'm the dude right now. And he did it with his play. He did it with talking and backing it up. And now his team's in the finals, and what I would

deem is one of the more exciting finals we've had in recent history. I mean, think about it. Last year, we had Denver playing Miami, and everyone knew that series was going to be a quick four or five games in and out. We got a think about it last year. We had Denver playing Miami, and everyone knew that series was going to be a quick four or five games in and out. We got a dogfight here, bro. A lot of storylines. You talked about you hope Boston doesn't chirp Luka. They're definitely going to be chirping

Kyrie, and if you look at the most unassisted field goals of players' remainings, and some stats, I think, are maybe bullshit, and you could probably know more about that. No, you're right. It's like Luka and Kyrie, they're creating their own. Isn't that what most unassisted ship means at a more rapid clip is it better or worse for team play whenever you have the most unassisted points in the series or is like the way tatum and brown have the entire team kind of helping out which do you think it

favors because from what we've been told from our source cities around the nba the reason why it's tough to prepare for this guy is because you have no fucking idea what he's going to do. You have no, like each game, it's like he's kind of figuring it out as he goes. So it's tough to prepare for. What are your thoughts, early look ahead here for the style matchup that's going to take place between the Celtics and the Mavs? Well, the favor is Boston. Boston's the better team. They have better role players. I think they're the best team in basketball.

And they have a variety of guys who can step up and chip in with 10, 15, 20-point games. With that being said, I said the same thing with Minnesota. I thought Minnesota was better than Dallas. And they proved me to be wrong. Because at the end of the day, even if they are a team led with two ISO players who have the most

unassisted points, blah, blah, blah, if they're both playing at this level and Luka and Kyrie are both coexisting, going for 35, 34 apiece, I mean, bro, when you have two guys providing 60 to 70 points a game, all you need is like 10 to 20 from the rest of the team. It's very difficult to beat, and they're doing it efficiently. You said it best, Pat.

The storylines in this are incredible. Porzingis is going to be back in Dallas. Kyrie's going to be back in Boston after a lot was there, stepping on the floor, sage in the court, flicking off fans. The situation didn't work out there. They pushed him out. Who's the best duo in the league? Is it Brown and Tatum, or is it Luka and Kyrie?

I know Drew Holiday and Derek White are great defenders. I want to know how great they are. They're about to have their hands full. This is a great, great finals. I'm very excited. I have Boston winning, but my God, man, who knows? Dallas is, the way Luka's playing right now, that's a bad boy. Connor just said, pushed out. Let's relax.

Whatever you talk about. The storyline's there, but you're right. I mean, it is, and if you think about the way... He was a little upset because they went to the Eastern Conference Finals without him. I know that, but that's what made him push him out. They're like, yo, we're good without you. Okay, nonetheless, when he goes to Brooklyn, goes back to Boston,

there's a lot of storylines. I did the middle finger behind my head because he did that to people. And then in the hallway, I think he told somebody to potentially kiss his penis. There was that moment. There was stomping on Lucky. There was a lot of things that kind of took place between he and Boston and it's like Celtics fans are smart basketball fans

been around a long time obviously a lot of banners out there that's what it's all about it's like they have to be pretty conflicted because it's like okay so that particular the white one there if we chirp we need to make sure we are directing this one needs to know that we're talking to this one at all times.

Because if this happens to just accidentally get to there, he might go for 50. Literally inside of him. Leave him alone, boss, and they're going to know who. Yeah, of course. They know who. And the bigger thing, too, is the players. Let's not talk any trash as players. Because, of course, the T-Wolves fans

definitely helped him out a lot. But Ant-Man saying, you know, we'll see you at game six back in Minnesota. I doubt Kyrie. You don't need that. Yeah, I doubt Luka like that too much. But Austin, as far as the coaching matchups go here, what is your strategy if you're Joe Mazzulla?

Are you just taking out Kyrie and saying, hey, okay, if Luka can score 60 you know 20 and 15 a game and they end up winning so be it or how do you approach that and same thing with Jason Kidd what do you think he's coming into this series thinking like are we going to also kind of force feed one guy or are we going to try and shut down anything inside obviously the three-point shot is huge for Boston. So what do you see those two coaches playing in right now as they get ready for this series on Thursday? I wouldn't be surprised if Missoula started the series with a lot of switching.

And I say that because the more you switch, the less there's weak side help. What's that mean? What's that mean? What do you mean? What do you mean more switching? So pick-and-roll switching. So when you come off a pick-and-roll, when Luka uses a pick-and-roll, that big is going to switch onto him. It's not going to be like where the guard's trailing him. Because all Luka did this

past series is pick the Timberwolves apart in the pick and roll. Luka would call up a screen, come off the pick and roll, look at the weak side, and either have the lob or the corner three or he had the matchup he liked. Boston has very capable defenders. I wouldn't be surprised if they switched a lot

just so they could eliminate weak side passes and weak side defense. If you live with Luka making these shots for seven games, I'm not saying it goes seven games or they let this ride for a couple games. But I think the first quarter or two, they're going to check the temperature. You want to limit the Derek Livelys and the Gaffords and the P.J. Washingtons and the Josh Greens and the Jalen Hardys. Not all these guys can eat. We know Kyrie and Luke are going to eat. Let's try to pick apart. Let's try to take away some of these other guys.

Let's limit our rotations. Let's try switching and see if we can make these guys play ISO basketball the entire game and beat us off those two. I would imagine both sides are going to try to do that because the Celtics are very similar. They've got a duo, but they've got all these other guys that get offense, and you can't let everybody eat. I would imagine there's going to be a lot of switching and one-on-one play in this series early on.

Okay, I like to hear that, and now I feel like I'm much smarter. So thank you, Austin. See, people would have never said that you would make anybody smarter like a few weeks ago. Yeah, exactly. I think that's what – maybe friends and family. Friends and family. Are you guys fast-tracking my future to being a head coach or a president of a team?

Well, are you trying to be? Are you trying to be? That is a long-term goal of mine. You see what JJ's doing? I have a similar path in mind of what I'm trying to do in terms of me using the media and loving being a part of the media and transferring into a coaching job or a front office job like my father. That's the goal of mine.

So that would be if you get that job. I'm 31, so I want to put in some time. I got to put in some work, you know, another four or five years of really like building and networking and obviously getting on here. But a goal of mine is I want to be back in the show. I want to compete, man. I want to be a head coach. We love that.

I want to run a team. Hell yeah. Okay, I like to hear that. But if you got a job over somebody else because your dad had a job, what would that be? That would be nepotism. Well, that would be nepotism. I don't want that.

No, you would earn it. You would earn it. We know you would earn it. I've only been around the NBA since I was six. You know, I might know a little bit of something of knowing how to run a team, possibly, maybe. I don't know. We'll find out.

Shit. I hope you go on to do that because literally listening to you talk, I enjoy the shit out of it. I think that's why people appreciate you on the show is because whenever you – My love coming on. Well, it's very – I mean, aside from all your dumb shit. When you talk ball, though, you make doofuses like me kind of understand what the hell is going on, which is obviously coaching traits.

So it makes sense. So I'm excited to see you pull that off and make that happen. It's not a if or when. It's a yeah, it's going to happen. Ty has a last question for you here, Austin. Austin, how much will these next six days actually benefit, you know, like Luka and all his nagging injuries? Obviously it hasn't really affected him that much.

He's still going out there and lighting everything up. But, like, do you think he would rather, now that the adrenaline kind of wears off and maybe like the knee and the ankle kind of, he starts to feel that a little bit, do you think he'd rather, now that the adrenaline kind of wears off and maybe the knee and the ankle, he starts to feel that a little bit, do you think he'd rather have this time to rest or with how well he's been playing, is he thinking, oh shit, I wish we were going on Monday and getting ready to play. How much can he actually heal in these next six days?

No, they need to get some rest, man. Boston's just been showing their waiting. We all know Boston's path this year has been very not dynamic. They've ran through anybody that they've pretty much played. Oh, shut up, Boston! Say fun. Shut up! They beat a very good Pacers team.

Very, very good. They played a Pacers team without their best player on the floor for most of the season. Agreed. Agreed. You said it on me, brother. That was a bummer. Again, that's not Boston's fault. I'm just saying it's just what happened. They played a lot of teams without their best

player. With that being said, you could argue they earned that number one seed. There's that. Regardless of which, six days could do a lot in terms of treatment and just getting Lucas' legs back up under him and Kyrie. For them to beat this team that they had ahead of them, they're going to have to be special.

They're going to have to be dynamic like we've seen all playoffs along. It's one thing to do it versus teams they've played. They have not played a team like Boston. They're about to play the best team in basketball. These six days will be very beneficial to Luka. We know Boston's well-rested, so this isn't going to be a rest thing because Dallas has had less time than them. So if anything,

they need this time. They need this time to heal up and get ready. Obviously, because they're starting on the road as well, so they're going to have to leave a couple days in Dallas as is before they've got to head up to Boston. Alright. We appreciate the hell out of you, coach. We can't wait to chat with you again, hopefully very soon. When are you on TV?

Anytime. Next week. But I'm available for you guys all the time, man. You send me the word, I'm pulling up. Hell yeah. Good, man. We appreciate that. And remember, I think that is why what all the people are saying.

Mm-hmm. Austin River. He's surprisingly cool and funny and charming. Am I turning them? Am I turning them slowly? I think that's the entire statement from this conversation with you. I think people

are Austin Rivers fans. For sure. That's crazy. I've never thought I would say that. Did you? No, definitely not. Never? Duke guy? Yeah. Dad's in the NBA? It's a compliment, but it's a compliment. I'll take it in the end. Ladies and gentlemen, Austin Rivers. Yay, Austin! Dad's in the NBA It's a compliment But it's a compliment I'll take it in the left No no no

Ladies and gentlemen Austin Rivers Yeah Austin A lot of the WWE boys Yeah A lot of the guys In the back

Man Austin's cool I didn't think Out of nowhere No way right Then they said You too right You guys Like the guys

The guys They didn't think We would And I'm like Yeah like He's awesome I don't think I've heard him I'm like, yeah, like, he's awesome. I don't think I've heard him talk much before this. I think everybody just kind of assumed, oh, that guy's got to be a douche or whatever.

He was not. He's an awesome person. Hey, Austin, thank you, pal. Thank you, Austin. I do appreciate the fact that he was like, yeah, I'm trying to become a coach around the team, though. Like, that is a move that a lot of people have done that have gotten into tv and broadcasting because it's a public interview pretty much yeah like hey here's my brain here's how i would do things and then you know everybody's tvs are on these things so hiring does potentially happen from the tv you look at john lynch i mean he reached out to kyle shanahan

to say that but also shanahan was able to like learn a lot about john lynch quickly because he was on tv talking about his beliefs in football and how he does it. Let's go to a man who used to run teams. Now he only does TV and radio and podcasts and email newsletter and TED Talks and books. Ladies and gentlemen, Paisano Michael Lombardi. Yeah, Lombard!

How are we doing today? How's everything? Lombo, we just talked. Everything's good, man. Especially good because you're here with, you know. The best desktop of all time. Great desktop behind you, bro. What a screensaver.

That's not a screensaver. I think that's just a backdrop. That's just my man. That's my hero right there. That's my guy. He's not doing good. He's sick. But hopefully he'll get well, go back to Europe,

and then I'm going to see him in Philly on the 23rd. So that's the guy right there. Hey, we're pulling for you, boss. Good luck, boss. Yeah. Pulling for you, boss. He's not feeling good? What's going on?

That's news to me. I didn't know there was something wrong. He said he had a perforated ulcer back in last year, which caused him to miss some concerts. And then this year over in Europe, I think he was playing in a concert in dublin in the pouring rain and then uh he got some kind of sore virus in his throat so he had to cancel a couple shows supposedly he's coming back i think next week he's back in colt's neck now recovering so hopefully he'll get back hey we're pulling for you that

one hit one that one hit wonder that sold his catalog for $600 million. You know, that one-hit wonder, you know. Who called him a one-hit wonder again? Who was it? Some idiot on Twitter. You know, those experts. You know, somebody on Twitter. Hey, you know, look, Austin Rivers, you got to get – look, as long as he says what he thinks, he'll get himself a coaching job.

Look at J.J. Riddick. He's going to end up maybe be coaching the Lakers. You know, if you're honest on television with what people, and you're not placating to the, the, the, a certain element, you know, your knowledge comes out. I think it's awesome. He was great to listen to. How do you feel about it in like the football world? Cause obviously we've seen it where, you know, Mike, Mike Mayock goes from being the draft and combine expert at NFL network to general manager of a team, which seems like the right, you know. Now, granted, Gruden, who was the coach of that team,

goes from the Monday Night Football booth back into there. Not that he wouldn't have got a job if he wasn't doing Monday Night Football because of the success he had down in Tampa Bay, but I'm just saying, you see, Lynch obviously goes from TV into that. Why do you think, or do you think, that being on TV, it's like a never-ending interview, pretty much with all these teams right like if a team needs a coach well you've heard this guy for 18 weeks at least three hours a week talking about situational football talking about like there's angles i think guys are trying to get jobs potentially as they get on tv but i think

there's also a chance that guys get on tv and people are like, hey, you'd be good for this job. You should think about it. Is that true as somebody that ran a team? And do you think that's going to continue to happen at a rapid level that it's kind of starting to? I think intelligence is always going to be the biggest sell of anything. So when you smart talk smartly on television and you educate the viewer, whether it's in basketball, hockey or football or any sport, college basketball, I think that the viewer, whether it's in basketball, hockey, or football, or any sport, college basketball. I think that the viewer craves that. We're in the world of information, and they want to learn more about the game. They want to understand the game, not from a superficial level, and certainly not from an X's and O's. We don't need clinics on TV, but what we need to do

is understand the strategy that's involved around what's going on in the league, off-season and in-season, and I think that's what helps. And, you know, like, look, Hubie Brown's 90 years old. I don't miss a Hubie Brown game that he does. I don't care if he's doing some two bad teams. Like, I learn something every time Hubie Brown talks on television. He's 90 years old, and he's into it. He knows the players.

He coaches both teams at the same time, which is remarkable. And that's what we want as fans. You know, I'm liking what the Sixers are doing here. I don't like what the Nets are doing. You know, he coaches it. And that's kind of what we want to learn about the game. We all are curious about how we can improve our knowledge of the sport. So we sit in some bar somewhere.

We actually actually sound smart. Yeah, I love sounding smart. And I love whenever people make me smarter whenever I listen to them. So I'm echoing your sentiment as well as what we all kind of want to hear. Like, also, and I don't know who brought this point up in the last couple days, but somebody did.

It's like, I think it was Florio maybe. Like, Belichick on our show every Monday this upcoming fall, and then on the Manning cast. So like, on our show, fans that always have seen him as this old, miserable bastard from all these press conferences, they're going to see, like, this side of him as a human. And then on the Manning cast, you're literally going to see him go, well, this is what they should, this is, like,

now you're watching them break down football. So, like, every fan base is going to watch that, and if their coach starts to do anything, and there's a sense that Belichick still wants to get back into football, he's going to be on TV all year. And fans are going to be like, why don't we hire – why haven't we hired – why didn't we hire Bill Belichick? That's another whole part of it as well.

Like, you win – I don't want to say win over fan bases, but, like, you kind of do. So, the owner can hire you as well. So, the fans want it. Obviously, the information is there, and they're smart at your job. It seems like a brilliant interview. Austin's doing it right, and him having to plan, like, all right, I'll do TV, and then I'm going to get a job.

That's not a bad pipeline to that potential gig if you're doing that. And Belichick, I think, is going to benefit mightily next year from this. And we're all going to benefit when he next year from this and we're all going to benefit when he breaks down the Monday night game on your show because it'll be it'll be a peek into the game that no one else can give you and I've witnessed it firsthand and I have too many notes in my one note computer about you know pre-game and what he's been able to deliver and

how he sees the game and how it's going to go. And rarely is he ever wrong. I can't remember it. And then when he's in the game, what is going on in the game? You know, there's always something happening in the game. It's not about what plays are you running, but what are you trying to accomplish? Everybody goes play to play, but there's a broader picture of every single game. The first quarter is about figuring out,

is this what we practiced? Is this what we need to do? The second and the third quarter are about the adjustments we need to make. And then the fourth quarter becomes standalone. Like, how do we win this game? And I think we see it in basketball. Look, the Mavericks won three games in the final minutes of the fourth quarter because they could figure out how to win the game in the fourth. And they adjusted in the second and the third so you're going to get a great peek into his not his brain and his ability to invoke scheme into players remember football is a game of players and plays and so often we just talk players and not how to fit like what this what's the difference between kyle shanahan's offense and sean mcveigh's everybody says well

they're the same well they, they're really not. They're not at all. They're formationally, as Kyle, you know, what we've seen from Sean is more gap scheme, more trying to be physical at the front, more over routes. They're different, but they come from the same, but they brought off. And you're going to hear Bill talk about all those things. Yeah, that's what Tom Brady said. Tom Brady said, Peyton said that Tom Brady told him that every single week on a Monday

during the announcement of Belichick coming on the Manning cast, he said that Tom would come into his office every Monday or whatever it was and Bill Belichick would break down not only the defense that he's going to be playing against, defensive coordinator, what tree he comes from, what the rules of this particular defense are from the founder of the defensive scheme that they are going to be running. Whenever there's a big moment, here's what the defensive coordinator wants to call. If there's a panic, this is what he's going to call in this exact moment.

And by the time Tom got out of that, what, three-hour, whatever it was, it was like, okay, Tom literally just went through a master's course of this potential defense, which is why I'm excited to hear Tom Brady on Fox but listening to Bill do that move forward will be awesome on TV let's talk about what's happening right now around the NFL because these are moments you know OTAs where I feel like the biggest thing that happens is team camaraderie I think team camaraderie happens I think uh you build up friendships I think the locker room gets strengthened uh I think obviously if you have new schemes coming in people can learn that but if it's same schemes, same everything, it is just like a, hey, how you doing? Good to see you. We're about to spend six months with

each other here as soon as the season starts off. For you with these OTAs, there's people obviously that are making business decisions and opting out publicly so that people know that they're not at voluntary workouts. The people that aren't there, how do we feel about it? What should we be thinking about whenever watching these OTAs and thinking about these OTAs? And is there any stories that kind of we should maybe pay attention to a little bit more? Well, I think a lot of this is based on the player, right?

I mean, Trent Williams isn't in San Francisco's OTAs, but he works really hard and he shows up ready to play and he knows the system. So him not being there or Christian McCaffrey not being there is really no big deal because they're working, doing their prep work on their own. But if you take a guy like Trent Brown at Cincinnati who they signed, you know, and they want him to be the starting right tackle and he's had some weight issues off the field, you're a little bit nervous about him not being in your program. So every situation

is different. But what I think most important for front offices and the coaches is the young players need a lot of reps. See, football's a game of mathematics. There's only so many reps you have because of the two and a half hour practice time or 245. There's only so many reps you get. There's only so many turns you're going to be able to have. And who controls those reps is critical. only so many turns you're going to be able to have and who controls those reps is critical and if you can get the young players caught up on a fast track to where they can help you in November and December because they've gotten all these reps I think it really benefits your team the bonding element is great because what the veterans need to do is show the players and the young players how to be professionals right you know they have to show them what it takes.

How do you prepare in a classroom? How do you prepare on the field? How do you have a routine to get ready for practice? Like, that's all really important, and they need to learn that. And you can't always have the coach tell them that because it blocked out. So that veteran leadership needs to be present in there where you're trying to teach some of these young players how to behave like professionals. And as small as it sounds too like we're humans too going to a new city

you know and obviously your rookie class you're going to be friends alongside of and everything like that but whenever the vets are kind of like giving game on you know life in the city like clint session and i used to go out uh whenever i was a rookie and then i got introduced like joseph adai and then then Peyton obviously introduced me to things and took me places. It was like, it was an immediate welcoming to the city. And then you hear stories about these places that do hazing in the NFL and shit like that.

And everybody's like, hey, we're going to need the young guys. Like, it's better not to burn bridges with these guys. If we want to get paid how we would like to get paid, then you're going to have to have rookies that do well let's make them as comfortable as possible and hopefully they'll be able to benefit i think that's a big piece of ota's last question about that for me uh to you and then the boys have some they're thinking about moving that up to the ramp up period before training okay you hate it all right yeah so why yeah okay i hate it pat here's why i hate it because a you know we. So, yeah, okay. Here's why I hate it, Pat. Here's why I hate it. Because, A, you know, we're going to go to 18 games.

There's no question we're going to go to 18 games. That's going to get passed at some point. It's too much money in the pot for the players and for the owners. So that's going to happen. And, B, if you don't have an offseason and you're out there practicing in the Thunderdome and you rip your hamstring out, okay, then that becomes a non-football related injury because you did not do it in the facility. You did it on your own. And so you could lose a paycheck. You could lose your year's salary. You know, we saw the running

back Hines do that last year when he got hurt. I think he was in a skiing accident. He didn't get paid. It's subjective to the team, right? It's subjective to the team. If you have an injury away from the facility, even if it's a football activity, even if you're running sprints or training in some strength room, you get hurt. That's on you. And so that huge void is out there, and it puts the players at such a liability

in terms of now I'm working out. But if I pull my bicep or I rip my bicep here, I'm screwed. Whereas if I rip my bicep and I'm training at the Browns facility, you've got to pay me because I'm doing your job. I think that needs to get clarified. And then if we're going to 18 games, why do we need this long preseason? And the other factor is we need the young players. I think the older guys, okay. this long preseason and the other factor is we need the young players like i think if i think

the older guys okay but those young players need to be in there to practice and get going i think that's the most important factor of all this and somebody who's been involved with teams and has been involved with preparing teams needs to be in these meetings to tell the owners of the management council this is the players here's the deal This is the players that are pitching this entire thing. It's like, I haven't heard a single active player come out and be like, I haven't heard one either. Like, why would they want to do this? I don't, I don't.

And they're liable. You got to understand the liability that you're under. If you miss, if you get hurt in the off season, if you're skiing and you get hurt, you can lose your whole salary. And you can say, well, that's not fair by the team. Well, it's written in the collective bargaining agreement. Yeah, and you just got to drag your ass to the facility, okay?

And you got to hurt yourself in there somewhere. Where'd you break your leg at? Colorado. But I need to break it in that building right there. So I'm walking in and I'm jumping to the top of our box that we have in the weight room. And I'm falling off that thing. And all of a sudden that's what's going to take place. That was really the thought, you know, that was like the fear. Like, hey, if you get hurt anywhere, you need to figure out how to not be hurt there and get here because you can lose everything.

Now, I've never seen anybody actually accomplish that, but that's how much it is talked about to your point about like, hey, you can lose everything. Because for like the first two weeks of what used to be OTAs, but now OTAs are a different time. Now it's off-season conditioning program phase one. The first couple weeks couldn't have a ball on the field. Remember, that was the big thing. The NFLPA was like, well, we don't even want a ball on the field because coaches will abuse the writing and players might get too jacked up. So you can't even have a ball on the field so i as punter had to go to local high school to kick you know and it's like how does can we not make an exception for me to be able to kick at the facility where i have nets and people that will return balls and not a crowd of people that are going to be yeah

you know like is there any there's a lot of stupidity in all of this and i'm not saying the nflpa is the engineer of all of it, but they certainly haven't missed an opportunity to do some dumb shit seemingly in the past. Their job is to protect the players. This doesn't protect the players. Their job is to protect their clientele. This doesn't protect them at all.

Think about the freedom in an offseason. Two and a half months of off time. Long time. Damn. I mean, there are three and a half months of off time. And not that they should be adults. You're professionals're professionals it's like i'm a guy that got in trouble during season so like you couldn't even imagine it could have happened easily in the off season as well it's like that's a lot of free time for people that have been structured their entire

life and obviously be an adult be mature you're lucky to have the job but also let's look at the reality of situations here i don't know if this is just because the n NFL is just going to use it as a way to get 18 games. And then, like, why don't we add some other shit in there if we're going to give up 18 games? 18 games does mean another check, though. Nonetheless, let's talk a little bit more about ball. Go ahead, Con Man. Yeah, Alonbo. Obviously, it seems like now after the draft, the Bills, you know, made the right move drafting Keon Coleman that he will be good for them but the situation with how they got to

the second round and trading that pick to the Chiefs so that the Chiefs could get their guy how do you feel about that and do you think that this is something where Xavier Worthy will have an 85 yard touchdown against the Bills in the divisional round and then they everyone in Buffalo will say well it's our fault for giving them that guy. Yeah. Well, look, I worked for a man named Al Davis who you were not allowed to trade any player to the division or a player to any game team on your schedule. So that was eliminated. But in this case, to me, they had an opportunity to take a deal from New England. New England was in high-speed pursuit of Worthy.

They wanted Worthy badly. They were making calls to get that pick. And Buffalo had them on the phone. And so was Kansas City. And I think if you're Brendan Bean, you have to sit there and say, yeah, maybe Kansas City offered me a lot more, but why would I give Worthy to them, who's a weapon, who could become the next Tyreek Hill for them? I know he's undersized at 160, plays bigger, he's a tough kid. But why am I doing anything to help the Chiefs? Especially since I lost to him with 13 seconds. I missed a 44-yard field goal to send the game in overtime.

Like, I haven't been able to get through that door to get to where I need to go to. So, like, I don't understand that. Like, I would have been more than happy to give him to the Patriots, who's working on a new regime, who's got a new quarterback. And in three years, if Worthy's a great player, that's great. Maybe they're ready to go. But I'm worried about today, and helping the Chiefs out would be the last thing I would want to do.

That's a strange one, and that's going to come back and bite him in the ass if Worthy is as good as we might think he could be. And Reed does a great job of coaching these young guys. Look, that receiver room hasn't really improved from last year. If Worthy takes a step up, it has. We don't know what's going to happen to Rice. Kadarius is a wild card. And that really comes down to Hollywood.

Right. It comes down to Hollywood Brown. Okay. So, Kadarius, Tony, what an interesting. Yeah. Just what an interesting. Truly. Period. What an interesting. Yeah. Just what an interesting. Truly. Period.

What an interesting. Yeah. Period. Still there, though. They still got his back, even though there was a lot of weird shit that happened towards the end of the year where he seemingly came out and talked shit about the Chiefs. And then Chiefs were like, come on, dude. Everybody's seeing the same exact thing.

That's actually the conversation about our team is pretty much this entire situation. They bring in Hollywood Brown, which we assume is going to be a phenomenal tag team travis kelsey is their one if this worthy guy can go and rashid rice could stay out of jail which we hope he'll be able to do he needs to get back to kansas city let's go just get our ass back to kansas city in this entire thing it's like they're better than they've ever been and it feels like if you talk about the end of the afc the bills are going to be there and the chiefs are going to be there so do you know that the patriots are how do we know that that happened is that already they were on the phone with them that's fact i don't know if it's been reported or not i'm just telling you that's fact that's not

that's not bad journalism that's right that's not bad the trade the trade that sent uh the pick from what was it 20 28 26 28. 26, 28? Yeah, 28 to. New England made a substantial offer to him, and they took the Chiefs offer. Now, I don't know if the Chiefs offer was substantially more than the Patriots. I would just see, look, if it's the chart. I mean, at some point, you have to get away from the chart and do what's in the best interest of your team, right? You got to get away from the chart. But, no in the best interest of your team. Right? You got to get away from the chart.

But, no, this is fact. I'm not making this up. The Patriots wanted Worthy. That's a fact. Okay. And they tried to get him. Okay, so let's talk about the Patriots then. How do you feel?

This just came out yesterday, I think. And I've been openly against this a few times because I saw it in the Colts building where new regime comes in and they actually like fan base in Indianapolis, like just painted them over, took photos down. We got new photos up. And it was like, we wanted people to know that this is no longer, this is a new Colts and we got to bring the Colts, whatever. It's like we had one losing season, painted a broken necklace. You know, everything else seems to get forgotten. Seattle had happened, right? And they, they're coming out and obviously the players are cool with it. broken necklets you know everything else seems to get forgotten seattle would happen right and they

they're coming out and obviously the players are cool with it so however it motivates the team sweet when i was in india i hated it now it's come out that new england has done something similar i don't know what the extent is but they've taken some super bowl memorabilia down and coach mayo said he wanted to let the boys know like it's a new team this is our team now it's like i i don't think i don't know i don't know what new england did i don't think we've gotten photos from the before and after and how big it is how do you feel about that whole that's like their mission that's like the way to motivate is like this isn't about what happened here before it's about what happens

right now which i get but also shouldn't you like like the standard here is this like shouldn't you i don't know it's well this isn't the first time it's happened. When Bill Walsh walked into the 49ers facility at 711 Nevada Street in Redwood City, he took over for Joe Thomas, who took all that stuff down, who basically got rid of all the great 49er history. And Walsh put it back up. And Walsh put it back up. And he wanted to bring in the—he needed the alumni to come in the building.

He needed the players that are wearing that uniform to understand what it meant to be a 49er that it has been successful that there is a heritage here there's a sense of belonging and the only way you can create a sense of belonging is reaching out to your past it's why we have holidays it's why we have memorial day we honor those who have given their lives up for our freedom that's why we have veterans day so we honor the veterans who have served in our country it's a way of creating a sense of belonging and you can't lose sight of that you know walsh used to say all the time marines fight for marines because he believed that sorry that was a sense of created and and when you just do that when you absolve it, then it's disrespectful.

Look, the Minnesota Vikings have kept Bud Grant's office intact. Now, most of those players have no idea who the hell Bud Grant is other than he wore short sleeves in a cold weather day. You know, even though they went to four Super Bowls, they didn't win any. But Bud Grant, they kept his office. Like, he's part of their heritage. And I think to me when you do that it becomes egotistical it becomes something bigger than the program and i think that becomes a real issue because i mean obviously the vikings i don't know how many superbowls i'm not

saying it's it's worked or whatever go ahead that that's what i mean like seattle and indy like absolutely taking that stuff down things but they've won one Super Bowl like with the Patriots you know who the New England Patriots are it was the last 20 years they won six Super Bowls and we don't know what they did we don't know what all they allegedly they took down like the do your job shit uh they took down some photos like things of that nature that you know might have alluded to the past but like you know New England. It's not like this history is far, far away. I think everyone who sees this logo knows

oh yeah, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, six Super Bowls. Is it a little different because of that and also because the player that is now the head coach was a part of the dynasty? They're saying it's Coach Mayo's decision to do this? I mean, everything seems to be, hey, you know,

we're going to trust Coach Mayo to do whatever the hell he wants to do. Go ahead. Because if it was a Kraft move, that would be awesome. If it was Jonathan Kraft, yeah, I'd probably push that. Take it down. Take it down. If it was J.K., that would be a problem. Yeah, so it's just – it's honestly – however – who knows how it motivates a team?

True. However a team comes out is however it comes out. Our team, literally, Andrew Luck's rookie year, go to the AFC Championship game, and then balls are flat, we lose. Well. You know, and that. So it worked, you know. So it's just like, for me personally.

Those balls really were flat. All right. LeGarrette Blount had three touchdowns in 180 yards. Yeah. Well, he couldn't fumble because he was just squeezing everything. Yeah, they were really flat there. That was the problem. For those that don't and are new to the show, I am not on the side.

Jokes. Yeah, this is not real. That was the worst thing to happen to our particular team. Now, granted, I am bottom of totem pole, which I think is actually the most powerful spot of an actual totem pole. But I'm just talking for the metaphor at the bottom of the totem pole as the least important human being on the Indianapolis Colts, more specifically any of those teams. But I think I could speak for our locker room that that deflategate shit was the worst. And how long it went for was fucking miserable.

For an hour, a year and a half later we're being reminded you guys lost 70 yeah like you could have more investigation on that than the warren commission i mean christ almighty they had more people coming in to interview and do all this it was unbelievable and then we finally and then peter king admitted it was all fake it was all fake it's so you know we can't get that out of the Warren Commission, but eventually maybe we'll get that too, you know. But, I mean, it's ridiculous. I can remember Bill was, like, spending all his time talking about, you know, the ball and, you know, we're getting ready to play Seattle.

Like, we're at the hardest game. Didn't Bill say you've got to ask Tom? Ask Tom. Ask Tom about this shit. I'm done with it. I am completely – It's unbelievable. It is – and, you know's unbelievable. Let alone if it happened

or if it didn't happen. I think what we all learned from every quarterback was like, oh yeah, I like mine a little bit with a little bit more mud on the ball. Aaron came out and was like, I like mine over. I like it max. Which would be harder. I like it at max.

So we learned like, oh, there's a bunch of this seems like this is a little bit of bullshit. And Tom hasn't forgot. No, he certainly hasn't. Which is good news. We're in the Super Bowl. Tone has a question for you, Lambeau, as we wrap this thing up. Yeah, Lambeau, and I ask this with all due respect

to all the names I'm about to mention, because they're great quarterbacks. But Jared Goff just got paid $50 million. Trevor Lawrence is rumored to get paid $50 million. Another quarterback in that conversation is two, and I assume he's also going to get paid $50 million. Another quarterback in that conversation is two, and I assume he's also going to get paid $50 million. How do you feel about those contracts? And then just the how are we ever going to get to a time where those guys

aren't in the top five quarterbacks in the NFL? Is there ever going to be a time where the next quarterback contract isn't always going to be the biggest quarterback contract of all time? No, because I think, you know, look, if you're Tua, Justin Herbert got paid $52.5 million. So I'm sure at least Steinberg's saying, well, my guy's been to the playoff. You know, Herbert's lost a playoff game. You know, my guy's been there. He's won.

He's got these numbers. He should make this. Look, one of the beautiful things about a salary cap and about players at positions making money is water seeks its level everybody rises to the next one and and they know teams don't have the guts to be able to say you know look i'm not going to do this we're going to draft a young guy and then we're going to transition over to somebody else you know i don't think that they they're going to call that bluff because it's supply and demand there's just not a lot of them i think the question you're asking are they worth it and the answer is no but the market says they're worth it you know the market dictates

what you have to pay you know do i would i pay to a 53 million uh no because i have you know tyreek hill takes up 12 of the cap waddle takes up eight percent of the cap. Waddle takes up 8% of the cap now. That's 20% of the cap. If I go and pay Tua 30% of the cap, what do I have left for the rest of my team? But I'm down this road. I've already gone down the road. 80% of my offense comes to these two receivers,

and they're explosive and they're great, and he can make it good. So I think you're trapped a little bit here, but you can't get caught up in the number. You've got to get caught up in this is the system that we're in. And you've got to be proactive and draft a quarterback every year and develop a quarterback every year. Because if you can get one at a cheaper number, that's going to help you out.

It's a little bit like what happened in Minnesota. They traded in Cousins. Now they got McCarthy. Now the question is, do they pay Justin Jefferson, right? Now, all right, that's the fair question. But if they could have gotten neighbors for Jefferson, they probably would have traded him. But to trade him for draft picks that you don't know what you're getting back,

how do you trade him, right? Everybody says, well, trade a player for two number ones. Well well i don't know what i'm getting with those two ones whereas if i traded him for neighbors who was a legitimate could be a cheap number one receiver for four years okay now i could do that so that's becomes another issue okay so justin jefferson everybody's assuming he is going to get paid because of the decision to move on from kirk cousins bring in sam and then also draft a young player. Don't have to spend as much money at the trigger position. We can pay a wide receiver.

That's seemingly how the market is shaping out. We go back to Miami. Is Tua have one year? How much is this his last year of his contract? One more year. He's got $23 million on the cap at one year. That takes up 12% of the cap right now. When they do that deal, he'll still, he probably,

right now Waddle takes up 7.8% of the cap. Ty. When they do that deal, he'll still, he probably, right now Waddle takes up 7.8% of the cap. Tyreek takes up 12%. Now Tyreek, you know, he's still the second highest paid receiver in the league. A.J. Brown slightly went above him. So, but I mean, they got to keep Hill really healthy. He's the engine that drives the machine. But, you know, now you're, the reason you don't sign Christian Wilkins is because you're giving the money to these other guys. You're going to have to figure it out. Chris Greer has got a draft really well. Wilkins to the

Raiders, nobody even talks about. That's a whole different... Him and Crosby next to each other. He plays every snap of every game. There you go. He plays every snap. He can pressure the pocket. He can push inside. He's going to make Crosby more effective if that's even possible.

And they just let him walk like it was no big deal because it's a seven-on-seven game for them. Now, they haven't beaten a good team. We know this, right? They have not beaten a good team. Gump can verify that. You know, they go into Philly last year year and Philly played defense against them. We know Philly wasn't good on defense. It'll be interesting how this all works out.

Satu will be a free agent after this year. Dak will be a free agent after this year. They know they both get paid somewhere. Kirk Cousins just got $130 million guaranteed or whatever. That market continues to go. If you're a team, though, that has a guy, boy, feels like you need to keep the guy because you have no idea what door two potentially has on the other side.

Last question here from Ty Schmidt, Lambeau. Yeah, Lambeau has just announced that the Bears are going to be on hard knocks this year. And obviously, you don't really have a choice. It's kind of if the NFL tells you you're going to be on hard knocks, you're going to be on hard knocks. But as a GM, especially going into their situation where you draft the quarterback number one, they ended last season very well and they have a lot of momentum going into next

year with a lot of people saying, hey, this might be a playoff team. Is there anything to gain if you're the GM of the Bears from having hard knocks in your building or is this kind of all setting up to just be a massive disappointment? That's a Packers owner asking the question.

Maybe. Yeah, well, I think you have to be really careful. I mean, one thing it can do, it can really bring your – it can enlighten your fan base to know that you're on top of things and you're really good at what you do. But it can also enlighten your fan base to say you're not really – you're indecisive and you don't know what to do. Remember the Cleveland Brown one.

Remember that one. I mean, that one was disruptive to the whole entire organization. So a lot of this is you're going to have to do a really good job of prepping, preparing, and letting people know this narrative that you want to get out of your building. That's really important. And I think Ryan Poles has got to do that, and Matt Iberflues has got to do that too,

because when he stands in front of the team, he's not standing in front of the team. He's standing in front of America now. He's standing in front of America. And he's got to sell America on that, right? He's got to sell that, and so does Poles. So that adds another dimension to it all. It's a distraction, no doubt, but you're going to have to work around it.

The one that's going to be fascinating is the hard knocks offseason with the Giants. I can't wait for that. You know, when they said they were trying to trade up to get all, but they stopped once May went off the board. So we may be able to solve that puzzle. Sounds like you have some questions about some insider information from draft night. Excited to find out. Dayball is back calling plays,

allegedly. Now, will he be doing that during the regular season? Who knows, but we'll find out during the offseason hard knocks. And then the training camp hards of the Chicago Bears, Caleb Williams. And if we know anything about Ibraflues, he's going to look really cool. Real fresh. Players love him here in Indianapolis. I think in Chicago, a similar thing. What's Caleb Williams going to be like?

How about Roma Dunze? They said he was the second highest rated player on their board, which I had heard he was a higher rated receiver than Harrison on their board, which I had heard earlier in the offseason. Yeah, there were some people that said that. That was the case. Instead, Arizona ends up with Marvin Harrison Jr., Roma Dunzey, Caleb Williams, the young rookie class in Chicago are going to be on display on Hard Knocks.

We appreciate the hell out of you. We wish you were on Hard Knocks. Thanks, guys. Michael Lombardi. Lomba's got a show in like four minutes, so I appreciate the hell out of him. What a good man. The best. Lomba just has something for everything, doesn't he?

I mean, not worthy in New England. I didn't know that was real. Yeah, did we? As he was saying it, I'm like, okay, got a lot of questions about this, but also, I had no idea that happened. Oh, yeah, that's a matter of fact. This ain't false journalism. It hasn't been reported, but it's 1,000% true.

Well, he does that on our show, though. That is like the Lombardi move. And it might have been reported on something he did, whether it was a podcast or another show or something else. Yeah, I said this Monday, last Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. I said this. Yeah, everybody knows. And we had never heard it.

And then all of a sudden, it goes. Rams looking to trade Stafford last offseason. Yeah, he said they're not going to say it, obviously, but it's definitely happening. Look at the contract. All you got to do is follow the money. They would be in content of running a business if they weren't thinking about it, is what he says.

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The Talks at Table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, see the hat. Yeah, you know, I had to do it. You get the Hondo boys on the show. You know, you gotta show them a little love. Yeah, and I was gonna wait until he came on, but I should just go ahead and pop this bad boy up. Might as well. Get the Skanes tarp up there. Yeah, and this is from the

Indianapolis baseball team. The Indians. Yep. Which is AAA for the Pittsburgh Pirates, which is where Paul Skanes pitched for five games, six games, seven games? Yeah, around that. Five. And he struck out everybody. Pretty much. And now he goes up to

the majors and he's like the greatest pitcher to ever start in the MLB in history. Something like that. I forget the exact wording of it, but he's breaking all these records. And he throws the ball over 100 miles an hour on a regular basis. And there's another guy on the same exact roster that's

throwing over 100 miles an hour on a very regular basis in Jared Jones, we've got two aces joining us in about eight minutes. Ty, a lot of baseball on this program. Like you mentioned at the top of the show, in about four days time here, five days time, that's all there is.

Some days. Some days. Because there'll be finals. Well, then we do get the finals, but then again, that's basically a week, ten days of that, and then do get the finals, but then, again, that's basically, what, a week, 10 days of that. And then once that's done, guess what? No, no, don't you. If you don't like baseball, you better start liking baseball. Don't you put that on me.

Obviously, we got the W as well. Kaitlin Clark's starting to figure it out. These refs, the way they're reffing Kaitlin Clark, I don't like it one bit. Seemingly, they got like an axe to grind saying, welcome to our league. You think you're going to be able to do all that bitching and whining and moaning that you did in college? Not here. You better not even look at us sideways. We'll tee you up.

And how about her and Veronica Vivians last night? She hit one in her eye and then told her, what? What? What? Kaitlyn's starting to, hey. She's competing. Just like we thought it would. Exactly. Over the last couple days. Feels like the team's starting to run with her too.

Connor, you were there last night. Obviously another L for the Indiana Fever. Need to start stacking some more dubs. Only one win in about ten attempts. Got Chicago Sky on Saturday at noon. Angel Reese, Kaitlyn Clark. Obviously two new teams but still great rivalry. Kahn, man, you were there on the floor

on the wood last night. Is this favorite team going to be good by the end of the year? What do you think? By the end of the year, yes, for sure. They're starting to figure it out. I have some rotation ideas. For Coach Sides? For Coach Sides. Who you are a fan of. Who I am a fan of. She got teed up last night because she's pissed about what's going on with Kaitlyn Clark with these

refs. She's done with it because it is real. There is something going on, and there's something to be said with how the games are being called, especially around Kaitlyn. But, no, I think they're going to figure it out. Melissa Smith got the start last night, and she is fantastic. She can run and gun. She can score. I think she had the first seven points for the fever last night.

Need to get her some more minutes. Samuelson, she hit like three straight threes. And it was one of those situations like, okay, well, why aren't we getting 33 more shots if this is what's going on every single time she touches the ball? But they're going to figure it out. They'll be okay. They were saying Kelsey Mitchell, number zero, didn't have a training camp because of an injury. So basically was working herself into shape.

Last night she threw up a couple massive threes for him, a number two overall pick. Look out for the fever as they cook, but I'll tell you what, Brianna Stewart, she started her own damn league. They're going to pay more money than any of us. Yeah, a couple years away from that. A couple years away from the Liberty stat. Well, then the Aces, hey, they got some dogs on that team.

They got dogs on that team. They do. They got dogs on that team. Yes do. They got dogs on that team. Yes, they do. Junkyard. Every single day we learn. I mean, just beasts over there. Obviously, back-to-back champions. Some of them are inspiring music.

But the fever is What music video are you talking about? One half of the Hammer Cowboys 10 Diggs this year. What music video are you guys talking about? I couldn't not say it. One half of the Hammer. Die. Cowboys 10. Diggs is here. What music video are you guys talking about? Houdini. I couldn't not say it. Houdini.

I guess he's back. Back again. It feels like you guys aren't talking about that music video. Anyways, joining us now is a college football. That's one half of the Hammer. Die. Cowboys. Big Dallas Stars fan.

Bubba Gumpino back there. Go Stars. Is he playing football? I don't know. After watching that video. I don't think so. I hope he's still breathing. We would like to let you know. After watching that video. I don't think so. I hope he's still breathing. We would like to let you know.

All love, dude. Come on. Come on. Best days ahead. Best days ahead. That video was tough. I was bummed out. I know.

Not sun tanned. No, his face. Well, I guess people do try to tan their cheeks. Yeah, there was no sun. There was no sun. It was dark. Hey, D. Come on, man. Love you, D-Wall. Come on. Come dead. It was dark, yeah. Hey, D. Come on, man.

Love you, D-Wall. Come on, come on, come on, come on. Oh, that music video. Yeah, yep. Anyway, that's tough. That was tough to watch. I felt terrible. Keep it moving, bro.

Come on. But I can see why he's potentially not known if he's playing football or not, if that's where he's coming from. Bingo. You know, he's got to, that's tough. That's very public, too, which is what happens. Yeah. And it can't be any fun.

But with that being said, Las Vegas Aces seem to be locked in and motivated by the entire situation. Asia's balling. Yep, absolutely. And Kate. Kate Money Martin. Yeah, is balling. And then, obviously, Miss Plum, the founder of Kingmaker Cigars.

She is balling. I mean, they're doing everything. But the fever are coming. Yes, they are. now. I mean, they're doing everything. But the Fever are coming. Yes, they are. The time is now if you're not the Fever. Eminem's Houdini video, though, another music video that you were not talking about, out, yep, he's back.

Yep, he's literally hopped out of a portal and came back. Good video. Yeah, he sampled his own music, and then made a song. Marshall's back save us and it is it is great news I think he's got another album coming it's gonna be his last one because he said it's his last trick or the final trick mm-hmm join us now as a man who we think he's gonna be a rapper someday we can't wait for them mm-hmm college football national champion Super Bowl champion Ryder Cup winner

president of Ohio AJ Hawks yeah. How you doing, AJ? I never say never, but probably never on the old rap career, I would imagine. I think the show's going to be putting out a song, actually, this fall, so you're going to have words on it, so you will have a credited rap song. Nice. Okay. I'm in. Let me know. Just tell me where to go to record. And we will record. It'll be an uplifting

song. It'll be an upbeat song and music video. And we'll make sure that's on the beach i was so bummed out watching that for him i know i couldn't stop watching it brother it's cinematic i know he's an artist and everything but it's like even if that is your art in that moment like you're in a that's not a pretty vulnerable spot feel good friday dude you know i know feel good friday it's good singing though it was good singing. I didn't even hear. Like Timberlake.

You know, like Timberlake and Britney? Didn't they have a video like that back in the day? Oh, yeah. I remember that. I heard he lied. There was a fake Britney in it, I guess. And I heard that was big. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. It got some issues, right? Now that we know. Yeah, there's a book saying, you even gave him. Yeah. Bank off. That whole. Emon.

And then. What's that? No, no, no. Who? Iman. That's kind of what it reminds me of. That was Iman. No, that wasn't. Here you are.

I don't want you back. That's Iman. That's what you're thinking of. That's not Iman. That sounded like Iman. You can't say it because none of it's going to get through. You know the Iman song. Yeah, you know it.

Oh. I don't. But why is it? What does that mean? That's the artist's song. Yeah, you know it. Oh. I don't. But why is it? What does that mean? That's the artist's name. Banger. He's thinking the part you just sang, the JT part, he was thinking that's Emon. No, JT was doing that way before.

Yeah, what are we even talking? I'm so flustered right now. I'm confused, yeah. Before Emon. The video reminded me of Emon. Okay. Emon is in his bag. What the fuck is Emon?

What is this? You know what it is. Huh? You know what it is. You know what it is. My brain right now. If you had a gun to my head, that bullet's going through my brain. Yeah, but you're young. This was in our heyday. Zito just tried to sing a song.

He did. That was one of the correct lyrics. Play it in your phone. They were close. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, as we move. Eminem Houdini slims back. Yeah. Yes, it is.

Darren Waller, new music video, Heart is Broken. Yeah. Bombed out. Bombed out. And we would like to let him know, Darren, come on, man. Things are going to be okay. Next chapter is going to be a great chapter. The one after that, you're going to look back.

It's all going to make sense. Time goes on. That's right. And if it's just your art after that, you're going to look back. It's all going to make sense. Time goes on. That's right. And if it's just your art or whatever, we hope you maybe get back on the football field. You're an artist on the field as well. Amen. So is this all part of Hard Knocks then?

Because he's a member of the Giants. It is part of their offseason. Bruce, Bruce, big New York Giants fan. You think this is going to be a part of the Hard Knocks? I know you're pumped to see what the Giants should be. I mean, imagine if they had the documentary crew there as he was filming that heartbreaking scene on the beach of him getting stabbed in the back.

Is he playing this year or not? I don't know. All I know is that he's got the song of the summer. That song's a hit. Houdini. Thank you, Bruce. Thank you, Bruce. All right.

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the boys of the summer. Yeah. Hell yeah. You know? The hundo boys of the summer. In a city in which I grew up, a lot of people couldn't care less about baseball. Now, there are certainly baseball fans because the history of Pittsburgh is obviously a deep one with the Pirates. But a lot of people had kind of lost the faith in the organization that it would ever be worth a fuck again.

So why are we going to watch this sport that is boring, that we suck at, other than a nice night to PNC Park and hopefully some Zambelli fireworks afterwards? Hell yeah. Something changed. Some stars came to town. And not only are balls flying out of the park and the boats are towing up behind on the river that has dead bodies floating in it,

there are pitchers now that are electrifying. So much so that the pitching ninja calls them the Allegheny, which is the county in which Pittsburgh is in, electric company. Ladies and gentlemen, the Hundo boys from the Pittsburgh Pirates, both rookies, Jared Jones, Paul Skeen. Yay, boys! from the Pittsburgh Pirates, both rookies, Jared Jones, Paul Skeen. Yay! Boy! Oh, slide in. Chris Collinsworth, respect, respect. That was a good slide in, Jared.

That was a good slide in. We planned that. Yeah. That was all him. Okay, so you're both incredibly rich. We know that. Are you guys roommates? This is how this goes.

And how is the friendship between you two? Paul, we'll start with you, pal. Yeah, we are roommates. The nice thing about the show is we've got our own rooms on the road. So we're not, you know, we're not bunking up right now in Toronto. But yeah, yeah, we're having a good time. And Jared, how is it? I think we talked to Paul about this before when he was on the show.

You know, you two kind of going through something similar, but you have different paths. How is it to have a guy like Paul in the bullpen alongside of you? Has it made you better? Do you feel like you're competing against each other, learning from each other? What's it like, Jared? Yeah, I'd definitely say we're learning from each other. Just going out there, I'm sure he takes notes on what I do when I throw,

and I do the exact same thing when he throws. And obviously he's a lot of fun to watch when he does throw. I told him this offseason, I'm training the whole offseason with you to learn that splinker that you're throwing. Hey, Jerry, he said it's not even a splinker. I just call it a sinker is what I call it, but everybody else calls it a splinker. What is different about it, and is there things like finger position on ball that you guys kind of give to each other, Jared?

there things like uh finger position on ball that you guys kind of give to each other jared yeah um it's 95 and it has the most movement i've ever seen on a sinker so uh it's pretty gross but he was telling me how he throws it and stuff like that so uh a lot of stuff to work on there this offseason paul whenever we last talked to you um you know you're just kind of getting started in this entire thing now you've somehow become a guy that when you strike people know you're just kind of getting started in this entire thing now you've somehow become a guy that when you strike people out you're dancing on one foot hell yeah any oh yeah you see that you see that shit where he's just in the middle of a major league ballpark living like his fourth start just like boo that's a good yeah all right cool yep can't hit that fucking ball game. It's like a celebrity softball game out there. Has there been any anxiety, motion, nerves, changes you go,

or are you just settling in and getting more comfortable every single time you hit it on the mound? Just settling in. You know, the game doesn't change. People change. So, yeah, the only thing different right now, I think, is the stadiums are a little bit bigger but it's the same game uh are the balls moving faster because you're in the

majors and how much how do you guys hide the spider tech no spider tech yeah you guys are young jared did is that generation before you and you guys like is that something that's real because that spider tech thing i learned about whenever people are getting patted down well yeah that was just in the last couple years just kind of came out of nowhere and then i think cc sabathia came on and was like yeah i guess it was happening i didn't know so it was from more cc's era to like a couple years ago was the spiders you guys are always trying to do shit but it's like more severe punishment now than ever if you were to add a little bit of grip to the fingers so do you just not do any of it is that real or how does that whole thing work in your generation jared yeah i've never really

used it um i kind of got a first glimpse of it right when i got into pro ball i was playing catch with someone like my first time out uh when we got sent out in 2020 and i felt the ball i was like dude what is on this baseball and he was telling me oh it's spider attack that was before it was banned and stuff like that but i've really never been on it i've always just used uh rosin that we're giving on the mound and uh sometimes my hand turns a little black and i've had a couple umpires telling me to watch myself i I go, dude, it's just Ross. I don't care. Wash your hands. Alright, whatever. It's a bad look,

okay? Everybody in here can see that you've got something on your damn hands. Go ahead, AJ. This is for both of you, but Paul, you can go first. Do you guys, have you thought about the possibility one day in your major league career that someone may charge the mound on you? I just want to know if you guys have a plan maybe if someone does come charging at you

and your catcher doesn't get them before they get to you. Yeah, I took a boxing class at Air Force. I wasn't very good, but I have a little bit of practice. So, you know, just got to fight them. Jared, do you? Jared, have you taking the MMA class? No, I haven't. I haven't.

But I have gotten charged before, and it wasn't a very pretty sight. Okay, Paul, have you ever gotten charged? I haven't. I assume you're so big. He's a big son of a bitch. Jared, he's a big son of a bitch. You've got to meet him and tackle him. You've got to meet him halfway and tackle him, I think, and take it to them.

Yeah, Jared, you did the Collinsworth slide, and obviously you're a football guy. I think you're charging them. They think they're charging you. Uh-uh, you're charging them, Jared. I think that's the play. I got to go to the back of the mound and just get a running head start, jump up, and go spikes first and do something.

Yes! No rules in the fight. A missile dropkick off the mound? Yeah, you're getting ejected, obviously, but boy, that would be the Hundo boys merch. Through the roof. There we go. Now, Jared, can you feel it in Pittsburgh that baseball is like in –

I don't want to just say, like, hey, it's because of you two, but, like, hey, it's because of you two. Can you feel it in Pittsburgh, Jared, whenever you go to the ballpark? And how is it? It hasn't always been like this. You guys need to know that. I jared whenever you go to the ballpark and uh how is it because it hasn't always been like this you guys need to know that i know you're both new to the city of playing there it has not always been like that does it feel very real right now yeah i mean this past couple of homestands like our crowds are selling out like we're getting people at the ballpark and it's it's a lot of fun to play uh play in front of paul when you play q country roads

in pittsburgh did you just feel like you were the coolest dude on earth because that i saw a video and i thought to myself a i should have known that song a lot sooner sorry mr godwin and b in pittsburgh what a legendary move you know that paul yeah one of the uh one of the bad boys came up to me after my debut and he was like like, I love the warm-up song. And I was like, yeah, I couldn't really hear it, to be honest. The crowd was so loud that day. But my last start at home, I heard it pretty well, and it gives me chills a little bit.

Let's go. I love that. Ty has a question for you. Obviously, both of you guys being drafted where you're at. You know, I mean, Paul, we know you played catcher before. Jared, obviously, you're a stud in high school uh who's the better hitter between you two because i still think it's bullshit that there's a dh in the national league but like you guys even get to take bp or do the pirates just put you in like bubble wrap everywhere you go because they know hey if either one of these guys gets hurt, we're probably fucked. Yeah, no BP for us.

I think we both hit a little bit in the offseason, but not during the season. It's been a while since I picked up a bat. Who's a better hitter? I'm going to go with him. His hitting career went a little bit farther than mine. Mine stopped in high school. Why is that in baseball?

Just because you only have so many reps on your arms, Jared? Because I assume they noticed you were going to be a great pitcher. Like, all right, why are we even messing around with the bat? Let's go ahead and do that. Let's go ahead and stop that. Why is that, you think? And when did that start taking place? I assume you're not a history expert.

But did you enjoy it whenever it happened? Did you just expect it whenever it happened to you? I mean, yeah, I loved hitting. I used to hit tanks in high school, but yeah, I don't really know the research behind that, but yeah, as soon as I signed with Pittsburgh, they

shut that down pretty quick. When did you start throwing 100? This year. I haven't hit 100 before this year. That's awesome. Boom. So we're only getting faster right now, right? I's awesome boom so you we're only getting faster right now right i mean that's where we're only getting faster yeah hundo boy's about to be 105 boy yeah we're about to start doing some math yeah about to start looking like one of those

little tickers things that's going through i mean just straight gas dude just straight absolute gas catchers uh you guys have conversations with your catchers. I think we've asked you before this, Paul, because obviously you used to be a catcher. But are they the ones telling you, like, hey, it feels like it's coming in a little bit harder right now to you? Or like, hey, you're having a good day or bad day? What are the conversations with the catchers?

Jared? I mean, most of the conversations I have with the catchers are set up right down the middle, and I'm going to let all my stuff play right off of that. I know I have an idea where the ball is going. I'm not like a pinpoint guy where it's like, oh, I'm going to dot this fastball inside on you. If it gets there, it gets there.

But, yeah, I just kind of tell my guys, set up right down the middle, let everything else play off of that. All right, it's going to be like left half. You know, like left lower quadrant. Over there. I think, of that. All right, it's going to be like left half. You know, like left lower quadrant. Over there. I think, you know, I mean, is it going to be perfect? We'll see. You know, that little square.

And now that Angel Hernandez is an umpire, and maybe those will be called strikes if I am. You guys can't do that. You guys can't do it. Disrespect the umpires. Obviously, don't even think about it, boys. Okay, everything's good. Paul, your mustache is fucking moving.

Let's have a little bit more respect for the umpires, pal Let's go ahead and do that Tone has a question for you, boys I feel like I might know the answer based off of Jared talking about the splinker earlier but which one of you two has the better out pitch and I know you guys might say the splinker

but Jared, I mean there was a time earlier this season where you made a guy from the Brewers just, he had no idea He didn't know where he was at. So who has a better out pitch? I mean, I wouldn't say it's better, but I think we both have different qualities. I think

my slider's really good, and I think his little splitter-splinker thing is really, really good. So, I mean, with those two pitches combined, I think they're just right up there with each other. And, Jared, how come Kutch only hits home runs in Paul's starts and none of yours starts? Oh.

I mean, he's a lot more exciting to watch. Maybe everyone's just juiced up for whenever Paul pitches. Jared, you got to start working the locker room, buddy. You got to start getting some, you know, beers. Yeah, I got to start kicking some doors in. No. You got to start getting some pizza, cake, beers. Yeah, I got to start kicking some doors in. No, no, that's the wrong way. That's the wrong way.

You get more with honey than with vinegar. That's what they say. Go ahead, con man. Yeah, Skeens, obviously the reaction from the crowd when, you know, you're pitching, you mentioned you could barely hear the intro song, but did you expect all the stashes in the crowd? That was kind of a cool little thing. It was kind of a mania of all these kids wearing stashes. And then, Jared, are you thinking about maybe messing around with a mullet?

Because then maybe people might start wearing mullets. With the stash. With the stash. They just put your head on. I mean, look, just something to think about, boys. It's a good look. Oh, we got one. Wow.

Wow. Unbelievable. Nice. That's good. Yeah, he's got the pull. Skiens, do you see the mustaches around Tom? I didn't during the game. I heard about him after the game.

Saw him a little bit after the game, but I didn't see him at all during the game. Paul, you were playing in a stadium here that was right next to a zoo that you could see from the pitcher's mound. Do you remember that? Could you see him? Yeah. Literally right above where you would be sitting in between innings six kids yeah just you must have thought to yourselves oh these kids in pittsburgh grow mustaches early just for men is that what you were thinking that's for you that's for you out

there and when you're about town are you leaving your house at all or apartment? Or are you just napping in baseball still, Paul? Pretty much just napping in baseball, going to the field early and staying there late. So it's a good life. Jared, are you the same way? No, I think I got a little bit more hobbies. We got a little pond right behind our house. I mean, he comes out with us. He's definitely caught more fish than me since he started coming out. But do go fishing right at that pond oh you guys good we got big old

lippers what are we let's say what are we catching yeah what are we fishing for what's the music are we on a boat are we on the side of pond where are we john doc it's a little pond there's no boat but uh there's there's smallmouth bass and there's bluegill out there. Paul, you're just reeling them in, huh? You make that thing dance out there? Occasionally. I caught a frog one time. You should throw baseballs at the fish. No.

We're catching them and throwing them back. Catch and release. We're not trying to murder these fish. I don't want to murder the fish. You could cook it and then bless it and then eat it, obviously. You're not just killing them and throwing them back. Hey, Paul Steens, down in Louisiana, you ever fish the fish. You could cook it and then bless it and then eat it, obviously. You're not just killing them and throwing them back. Hey, Paul Steens, down in Louisiana, you ever fist a fish down there? You ever do one of those

fisting of fishes, you know, noodling? No. No, I didn't. I've heard you can get your hand pretty screwed up that way. I don't know. I don't think any of our friends did that either as far as I know.

I guess a pitcher should not be the one fisting fish. Yeah, sounds like probably the right decision. How many strikeouts this year? Do we know already? Is it 23, I think? What is the – no, it's got to be more than that. Yeah, it's more than that. I forget.

We're donating. 30. 30. I don't know. All right, 30 strikeouts. Donating 100 per. You're donating 100 per. and if you break the all time record let's remember 1 million bucks okay you're almost on your way the first game after we

talked about that you were just sawing everybody down was there ever a thought like i might strike out every fucking human that steps in a batter's box today is that how you felt no i knew it was you know they were bound to bound to hit hit some at some point that's how the game goes they didn't though yeah and then you left then you left the game and i was like thank thank god we don't have to donate a million this early in this entire thing but i would love to it'll obviously be for a good thing but like you could have like that you were set up to do that well and if i'm remembering correctly you threw seven innings and no hit ball, right? But you were at like 100 pitches.

Was there any conversation like, hey, listen, I get it. I'm young. Let me go throw a no hitter right now? No. I mean, that's just where we're at right now too, especially with the innings restrictions that we've been having. I mean, 100 pitches is 100 pitches. That's where the game's at right now.

I wasn't really expecting to go any longer than that. You trust the plan. That's what you're saying, too. There was no, yeah? Yeah, absolutely. Are you a part of that plan, like, conversation? Or is somebody, like, you know, like, you're told this stuff or they ask you how you're feeling?

Or is it like, has there been a blueprint of others in the past like hey here's the number probably if we want this to last as long as we want this to last yeah i mean i'm not in the room where they're deciding you know the you know the absolute number that we're not going above i guess but it's it's a conversation uh for sure but um you but there's definitely a plan. I think it's all based on what's happened in the past and some data that they have. They're a lot smarter than I am on that stuff. We would love for you to play for the next 30 years in Pittsburgh.

On the other side, Jared, obviously you were starting the season. 70 strikeouts from Jared Jones. Damn. 30 from Paul Skeens. The Hondo boys. Ladies and gentlemen, we can't thank you enough. The future of Pittsburgh Pirates baseball. Bringing baseball back to Pittsburgh in a massive way.

Have a great rest of the season, boys. You said you're in Toronto right now. Wow. Yuck. Blue Jays stink this year. Canada does too. Go have some of the bad blues, boys. Crush a couple of bad blues, boys. All right. Thank you guys. We appreciate that. He Paul schemes Jared

What are they supposed to say what Connor says Canada sucks Just so quick so matter of fact,, you boys are a real talent. Don't let anybody ever say anything different. Every night. Having the Bat Blue boys, Dumpy. Love the Bat Blue. On top of that. So they seem to get along really well.

So young. Yeah. 22. 22. Garrett had 10, I think, in his debut. He's been unbelievable. He's got a ball. He drafts pretty well, huh? They know how to draft well, don't they? Well, that his debut. He's been unbelievable. He's got a ball. They draft pretty well, huh?

They know how to draft well, don't they? Well, that's the thing about the Pirates. We've got a lot of World Series champions on other teams. They do. Like, they keep them in town. Well, the reason why you could draft well is normally probably because draft positions are also pretty good for the Pirates on a regular basis. There's a chance of that.

Part of it. That happened to the Orioles, though, right? Like, the Orioles had the top pick, and now they're good. Yeah, for sure. And that's been the Pirates' thing. Like you said, they haven't been willing to pay the guys, like the homegrown talent, and then those guys have went elsewhere. But a guy like Skeens and Jared Jones, obviously,

if they make the playoffs this year or are at least competitive, that's when you start thinking, okay, this is like a Randy Johnson,son kurt schilling kind of one two punch that we could have for the next 15 years if they stay healthy i like the moxie of old jared jones there yeah he understands this guy's the star i get it completely i'm cool when you start throwing 100 this year got them all it already just. I really enjoy the dynamic between those two. Seems like in public, probably in a restaurant, we got a nice yin and yang

here. For sure. In Paul Skeens, they say quiet mouth, loud mind. There's a lot. There's a lot cooking up there. You can tell whenever he starts going. There was a bit of a Pat and Chris Cavanaugh situation going on there. Well, speaking of, congratulations to pat cavanaugh hell

yeah you wanted to wear it on war on war on which might be the coolest trophy in sport now no offense i'm saying coolest individual award trophy yeah it is it was sweet and this is his third time being nominated for it is the heisman of lacrosse, I do believe. The trophy, though, now, obviously, front of the program, Pat Kavanaugh, the Kavanaugh boys, obviously good lads. Yeah, great lads. Good lacrosse lads, you know, that entire thing. And the Kavanaugh camps are going to be killer, you know, in the future whenever they decide and figure out how to, you know, do it.

Sure, yeah. Because that seems like a business plan that's just sitting right there. Oh, everybody in your family is good? Okay. Do you just want to go town to town and just have camps? Hundreds of kids. A lot of wealthy kids playing lacrosse. You could just sell it out, especially going back-to-back as national champs.

What if Chris goes three straight? Yeah, exactly. Oh, my God. Anyways, Pat Kavanaugh, good lad. Good lad. Happy he won the Touareg Tournament. Yep. And this is something I assume that all the greats have to have in their resume,

con man, as somebody that knows the world better than me. That is kind of the thing. This almost does solidify him as one of, if not the greatest, lacrosse player in college damn near, especially in the last 15 years, just because of the fact that he took a school that has never won a natty and won back-to-back. And then last year year i believe he was the runner up to brendan o'neill or he came in third um and winning this does kind of put a nice little bow on his entire career now we'll see if he can go win a pll cup with the boston cannons and do i know if it's

called the plo cup or not no but i do know that if he does that two on top with his older brother now after winning with his younger brother, that would be probably... I think they call it the PLL ship. The PLL ship. You win an actual ship. A whole boat. With lacrosse people on the top. Yeah, and the mast is like a lacrosse stick, and the sails

are lacrosse heads. We should know more about the stuff we talk about. That is a very, very valid complaint. Well, we know. We know. We know. It's just like some of the things we don't know are small in the entire conversation. Yeah, what they're playing for.

Right. We should know that. They're playing for championships. We just don't know what the championship trophy is called. That's right. And we're playing for banners up there for the Boston Cavanaugh Cannons. Always are. Where do they play at? Gillette?

Actually, I'm not sure because this is the first time they're going to be back as Boston as a home base. I know they played at BU for a little, but they usually do the state championships at Harvard. Congratulations, though, to Pat Cavanaugh. Absolutely. There you go, Pat. Now, if Chris Cavanaugh is going to have to get one of those, he's going to be all by himself next year at Notre Dame,

leading the boys, hopefully, to a third straight national championship. I mean, if you're Chris Cavanaugh's going to have to get one of those, he's going to be all by himself next year at Notre Dame, leading the boys, hopefully, to a third straight national championship. If you're Chris Cavanaugh, you're making the argument that you deserve the tour, Tom, because you had 81 points over your brother. Well, and I believe, if I know anything about the Cavanaughs, they're cool with it. It's the cash app championship.

The PLL cash app championship. That's not what the trophies call. That is. The Premier Lac Cash App Championship. That's not what the trophy's called. That is. The Premier Lacrosse League. They tweeted it out. The Cash App Championship. Yeah, the Cash App Championship must be the name of the natty similar to a Fiesta Tostitos bowl.

But I don't think that's for the whole league. It's called the Cash App Championship. PLL Cash App Championship trophy. Maybe Pat Coffinall could be a Cashop Champion. We're going to need to change that. Yeah. We got to. Just make up a name and put it on the trophy.

Actually says it on the trophy. The Cashop Champion. Cashop Champion. I don't like that one bit. That grinds my gears, man. Make it like the Mikey Powell Trophy or something like that. Give me a break. No.

So, obviously, this is good business because we're saying it right now. This is exactly how Rabel and the boys and the entire PLL team sold this to Cash App to be the name of our champion. Everybody's a Cash App champion. Shouldn't it be a Rabel trophy? So, I mean, Rabel, potentially founder of League, should get a little bit of a nod somewhere.

But I don't know if you should sell the championship trophy yeah as an advertisement i respect it i do and they gotta do what they gotta do and they got a lot of big brains and everything like that selling the title is certainly a i mean that's like when the ncaa sold uh the d1 football championships to the bcs yep they just sold them to the bcs like we don't want their the ncaa champion was the D2 champion. That's who they were actually crowning, so they just sold the rights away to it.

I don't know if Pat Kavanaugh after winning the Tuarathon is as jacked up to be chasing a cash app championship. Yeah, but that's just for now. Wait until Goodell gets a sniff of this and all of a sudden you're fighting for the Apple TV Lombardi. Okay. Maybe. You never know.

How much is Pitt paying to have that head coach's name? 20 million. The class of 94, Chris Bigler. 97. They are not the only school. No, I know. Everybody has kind of done this. Just like the Michigan State team is actually not even Michigan State Spartans.

They're the Michigan State Spartans sponsored by United Whole Mortgage. Rocket Mortgage. Rock and Mortgage. Presented by Rocket Mortgage. That's their actual name. So coming to the court, the Michigan State Spartans presented by Rocket Mortgage. That head coach.

January. February. Is there? Is there? January! February! April! ASPIA. That would be Dan Gilbert. That's the other mortgage. Stanford has their, I just saw their OC and DC sponsored as well.

Dude. Like the so-and-so family Stanford offensive coordinator. That's awesome. I love it. Any way you can get it, go ahead and do it. Amen. But I don't think you should do the championship of your entire league today. Hey, when you're exhausted and puking and you don't want to run another lap. Yes, coach.

Remember that fucking cash in. That's tough. Run through a brick wall, for sure. That's tough, isn't it? That's tough. It just shouldn't be on the actual trophy. You could call the final game the Cash App Championship. When you engrave

it, when it's on the actual trophy, it's tough. I don't think it's on there enough. They probably paid like $200 million for this or something. Listen, I guess we should refrain from judgment until we at least hear what it is because they might be supplying the entire league.

They might be co-owners. There should be a QR code on there where fans can send money to the PLL. Oh, buy some beers. Through Cash App. Send some beers to the champions. Everybody gets a day with the Cash App champions. Oh, my God.

Where 10 cents from every Cash App interaction on that particular day goes to the player the champion who has the cash app championship that day holy shit now it makes sense love it i love the cash are their qr codes on their own jerseys they have like individual qr codes in the jersey so we could support them dude that guy's sick but Hold on. Pause it. Pause it. Pause it. Get him. Pause it. Send him $10, $15, $20. You see that goal? $21 at least. He just went bar down. The Cash App Championship is later this

summer. We will certainly keep an eye on it as the Boston Cavanaugh Cannons will battle against the Albany Atlas. Atlas. Is that what it is? I think it's New York Atlas, but Albany's in new york so close enough yeah i don't know if albany has a team officially i'm not sure i know that's where training camp was joining us now is a man who would have been fantastic at lacrosse if he would have played

it and i will be excited to get his take on lacrosse because he is famous Canadian, and we know lacrosse is a Canadian sport. Ladies and gentlemen, from Spittin' Chicklets and NHL on TNT, absolute legend, Paul Bissonnette. Yeah, Biss! What's up, everybody? Great to see you. Thanks again for having me on. I'm like a regular now.

Every time I ask you to come on, I feel like an asshole because how often you come on. I'm very thankful that you take time to join us. Oh, I love it. Okay, good. I hope that's the case because Spittin' Chicklets is obviously incredibly massive in influencing the entire hockey world and then NHL and TNT are on every other night for like five, six hours.

So you make it time for us. We're very grateful for it. Now, we have a question for you. Do you know that the PLL, the Premier Lacrosse league uh do you know their championship trophy like the lombardi lordo stanley cup the lombardi is not it's the cash app championship that is literally what the title it's on the trophy is the cash app championship now we don't know how much cash app's paying so we can't judge it from that that was a wild thing to learn on this particular Feel Good Friday

biz. How do you feel about it? It's new. They're trying to get money and grow the league so I can understand it. It's maybe not as traditional as other leagues trying to start off, but yeah, I don't know much about the league. That's Paul Rabel's league, though, right?

Yes, that's what we all know. Paul Rabel, yeah, dog. Well, those charter flights don't pay for themselves, boys, so you've got to make some money somehow, right? Amen. And Paul Rabel, keep going. Hell yeah, Paul. Exactly.

And we do believe, we just decided that whenever the winner gets that thing for a day, like the Stanley Cup, you get it for a day, $0.10 of every transaction on Cash App should go to that player. Yeah, it's just something to think about. We're just thinking of ideas for the players. Or at least the MVP. Yeah, at least. At least you could do it.

At least. The bare minimum. Let's go to the NHL. Stanley Cup was here the other day. It was awesome. Mira is the one that is tracking it and following it. And it was a fantastic experience. It was a great experience.

Now we have two series that are living up to the hype here okay 3-2 in the east obviously 2-2 in the west with a big game tonight final four teams seem like these are the right four like hockey has it going right now what have you learned thus far from both of these I'll kind of keep it as an open slate for you and what are your thoughts on how it's going? I think the NHL is buzzing right now, Biz. Well, it's unreal. I agree with you guys. I don't think you could have asked for a better Final Four matchup. Let's start with the East.

I think the feeling going in was Rangers were this team of destiny along with insane goaltending. They got off to that 2-1 series lead, but ultimately the Panthers are exactly who we thought they were. They're a well-oiled machine. They're big. They're physical.

They don't have any weaknesses. Anytime maybe they want to take out a third or fourth liner, they have another guy who is a healthy scratch who they could put in who's going to make just as big if not more of an impact with fresh legs. They have great goaltending as well, but yeah, they're firing on all cylinders.

And when they want to dominate a game and when they're rolling, they just seem to take over. So right now, the better team is winning in Florida. I think that they will advance. But once again, I'm not discounting the Rangers just simply based on the fact of, I don't know if you've had all the things listed off that's happened the last time since they won the Stanley Cup in 94, like year of the eclipse.

We had one this year, earthquake, the fact that they've won the president's trophy, the fact that they had a natural hat trick in the playoff run with Chris Kreider. There's like two or three other ones that are just these crazy stats that added up where they won the Cup in 94, and now it seems like it's their year this year. But I think the issue right now with the Rangers is it seems like Zibanejad, Panarin, I know Kreider scored last night, but those are three of their big guns that haven't been able

to really get going this series. But that, to me, is more about Florida just imposing their will and maybe less about New York and what they've got going on. The Rangers are feeling a little deja vu, you're saying, OG fans. And Kreider had a shorthanded goal last night to start the entire thing. They have like seven shorthanded goals. Everybody else left has eight combined or something like that. So I guess they're buzzing whenever they're on their penalty kill whatever the case is but yeah it was crider's

first point in like forever so obviously getting off the schneid's a good thing for him three two series anything can still happen in the east and then let's go to the west how about it here we go mcdavid and the boys come back and flip the script of how this series has kind of gone getting beat up on early and then going bananas for the rest of the game how do you see it finishing so after they went down two goals last game i'm basically ready to book my flight i think i thought it was going to be over in five and they just were able to turn it on and it's been such a bizarre series i think wayne touched on the broadcast where he's like i don't even know what to think either he's like i've never seen a series like it where from period to period

you just have a different opinion on who's going to win it. Now, the last couple games before game four, when Edmonton ended up coming back from that 2-0 deficit, the two prior games, they got off to these great starts in the first 20 minutes and then Dallas all of a sudden just came out in the second period, had it figured out, and then rattled off all these goals and then took down the wind. So, um, as it stands right now, um, knob lock, who's a rookie coach has made some pretty good adjustments. He ended up putting in a Corey Perry last game. We call

him the worm. He's been around for, I'd probably say at least 15, 16 years playing pro, if not more, uh, he ended up making a huge impact. It was in the Mega Church in Edmonton. I don't know if you guys caught the game there. That, if you get to go see a game, Pat, and the crew, if they make the finals, you guys have to make a trip there. That's Dallas Stars fan Bubba

Gumpino, obviously, in the back saying, don't even put that into the universe. We've been told the Edmonton crowd, because who were we putting over? We were putting over Winnipeg. We were talking about how awesome Winnipeg was. We were like, look at that place. It's so sweet. And everybody in Edmonton was like, you bum.

This is the place or whatever. Oh, they get sensitive. The Canadian fans get sensitive about who cheers the loudest and who's the best. Oh, it's crazy. Don't even bring the Cougars into it, brother. Well, they're not called Cougars. They're the Canucks, asshole. They're the even bring the Cougars into it, brother. They're not called the Cougars. They're the Canucks, asshole. They're the Cougar Cougars.

Yeah. Oh, great. You're going to have to go into witness protection. Their fans are probably the most batshit crazy online is the Canucks fans. Just online. What do you mean not just online? There's a 30-30 coming out. I'm just here for the riot.

Yeah, the fire. Yeah, the riot. Yeah, they're never going to live that down. Now, Boston Connor, we did have Pasternak on the Spit and Chicklets podcast fresh off of a world championship. Oh, yeah. And he called me out on my public push-up. So I gave him 20 on live Zoom.

Oh, that's great. So I did give him 20 because I know we doubled it up. I'll still pay it forward to you when you call for the 20 but considering Pasta did it and he wanted the bet made whole I did it then. The funny thing about the 20 public pushups is that I can actually just say

just give me two. So honestly if you could tilt your camera down and do two pushups like right now that's more so that's more so how it works than 20 tilt your camera down and do two push-ups right now. That's more so how it works than 20 straight. I love that Pasta said all of them. I want to lose my internet

connection here. You guys can keep going. Pasta also was drinking on stage with his baby. You saw that video of his wife. It was an absolute What was that? World Championship? Yeah, World Championship, which is video of his wife. It was an absolute scene. What was that? World Championship? Yeah, yeah. World Championship, which is kind of interesting they don't do it with everybody.

Last time somebody – One, two, three. Stop. Oh, he's going to do 20. Stop. I did a few extra. No, you stole a couple. That's smart.

All right. Smart play by you. 15 extra for you. 15 left. We'll save the next 15 for another time when you guys ask me to come on tomorrow. Shout out to Boston. Yeah, I'll ask you tomorrow to come on, dude. We got a big Saturday program tomorrow.

To be honest, during these times, you know, we didn't play hockey, so do we need to be the ones talking? No. So you coming on, you make our show a lot better. We genuinely appreciate it. You guys probably know more about hockey than I do, to be quite frank. I appreciate that. Well, let's get

down to being stupid-ass fans. Then Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Biz, you obviously didn't play the goalie position, but Igor has seen just a shit ton of shots this series. Is there any chance that he's getting a little sleepy, he's getting a little tired, and that's going to be what decides the end

of this series? Yeah, fatigue could definitely come into it. I mean, the good news for him, though, is about halfway through the year he'd been struggling a little bit. So Jonathan Quick took over, and they were at least sharing the net. So the fact that he really didn't have to kick it into high gear for all that volume until the second half of the season I think is huge for him. But I agree with you. The amount of work that Florida's putting in through, especially in this round,

and then even going back to the Carolina Hurricane series where they throw a ton on net, right? So you always have to be alert. Rubber on net. I definitely agree with you. But the good thing that Wayne talked about this as well, as far as the goalies remaining he's the best at reading the play like he can understand where the player is going to end up

either making that pass or coming in direct where maybe some goalies they just focus on stopping the puck where maybe they don't have that ability to understand how it's all breaking down he just seems to be able to have that that talent with seeing everything in front of him. And I think that makes it a little bit easier on him to make those reads. And of course, his skating. Henrik Lundqvist, Hall of Famer, unbelievable goaltender for the New York Rangers. He's on the TNT broadcast. He always just talks about how good his skating is, like how good he is on those edges, where more so the goalies are oftentimes on that inside edge where we have to use inside and outside edge more.

He is just always down and athletic and ready to go. So he's an alien in that. That's what we say. He's just remarkable. And I hope that that's not the case because I would like to see this series go to seven. It's fun watching them. A lot of these teams are dumping rubber, dude. A lot of people dumping rubber on the net just so much, plowing through it.

A lot of rubber dumping. A lot of rubber dumping in there at Madison Square Garden. Igor Shostakhin's ready for all the rubber you can hit. Always. All the rubber you can set all day, all night. He chooses to. I like the fact. So we should be viewing him as like the guy, Igor, the way you can set all day, all night. He chooses to. I like the fact. So we should be viewing him as like the guy, Igor, the way you talk there.

I would say that if any GM had the ability to draft a goalie, if they were all available, I would probably imagine that he would go first. Jake Ottinger for the Dallas Stars is probably another guy, just based on his pedigree too. They have him listed at 6'5". Sometimes they say he's 6'6", but he also just moves very fluid and he's always in the right position. He did have a tough game last game, but he would probably be another guy

just based on his age and with what he does. They talk about that reverse VH a lot and how maybe it's overused and how goalies go down a little bit too early. But the fact is, is when you're 6'5 and 6'6, when you're in that position, you cover the top of the net quite a bit. So he just doesn't really have many flaws. And also a guy who extremely calm demeanor, never too high, never too low. If you're interviewing him after a big win, he's just heartbeats the same. So that, to me, is a big quality in a goaltender.

And his stick makes saves all by itself. Perfect point. That, too. That cost people quite a bit of dough because a lot of people had McDavid any time goal score, especially in a legacy game like that where it was a must-win for the Oil. Look at him on the bench just rattled. What a bunch of crop? That's what he said?

A bunch of crop? What'd you say happened to Otter there, Gump? I heard you chime in. They were running him and splashing snow in his face, you know, typical Edmonton bullshit. What's that all about? Hey, if Oblock's so smart, how come he had these guys scratched to begin with, Biz?

Oh, God. So going back to the snowing, I didn't really see that. The one goal that they scored that Perry was involved in where McLeod ended up scoring it, to me, it was more of Ryan Suter being a little bit out of position. And then he actually arm locks Darnell Nurse

and throws him into Ottinger. And if you watch the replay, you could see it's actually Tanev Stick who pokes that puck loose. So it was a bit of a gong show as far as his own team there messing things up. So maybe some accountability might help. I don't know. It wasn't on the goal. It was

the late. It was after that. Oh, it was the game, brother. Okay. At least everybody loves Darnell Nurse again in Edmonton, right? They wanted that guy kicked out of the city 24 hours ago. Mason Rudolph had a face turn in the city as well. That's going to happen in sports.

They had the tiki torches out, no doubt. And his teammate, Connor Brown, defended him quite nice after the game. But going back to your question about why did they have him scratch originally, Horry Perry, the worm, was one of those guys who was inserted. He's a little bit older, doesn't necessarily have those young legs. He's not a spring chicken anymore, but the fact that Knobloch, a great move by not

just putting him in on the fourth line where he had been, but putting him up with Dreisaitl and bringing him more into the game early, that was one thing that Wayne touched on in the broadcast and it worked out big time. So I know that you're chirping him for not having those guys in originally, but I think for a rookie coach, there's been a lot of times he's made

a drastic move in these playoffs and it's actually paid off. And not just putting him in, but putting him in the right spot. So I got to compliment him. But hey, listen, they're going back to Dallas. They got the glass banger. They got Tits McGee. I personally have it 51-49 right now for the Oilers just based on the mojo. And a very key potential loss was Tanev leaving that game in game four.

Pete said he's ready, brother. Pete said he's going to be ready. They say he's very optimistic about him playing in game five, so that's huge. Rumor is that he might have a hairline fracture in his foot, but if they don't have Panev, I don't think they can win this series. That's my opinion. When Texas Hockey wins tonight, make sure you say how good they are.

Okay, all right. I love it. You guys are chippy back there. Let's not forget. Show Texas Hockey some love. They're a good squad. You guys are chippy back there. Show Texas hockey some love. They're a good squad. You should hear how he thinks about Edzo. Eddie Olchek has ended up...

Guy went from Vegas to Colorado to Edmonton. What did Texas hockey do to Edzo, Biz? I get the feeling that Dallas fans are turning into Canadian fans. I am Canadian. Oh, no.

They're like, you haven't shown us love all season long. It's like, what are you talking about? You've been one of the best teams all season long. I never said that. I just said this series. You're gassing up mob lock. That guy's a goddamn genius. Come on.

I'm speaking for all Texas hockey fans online. Why are you talking about our team more? It's like we do. What else is to say? You're a wagon. You guys are built four lines. You have two first lines. That's how deep you are.

You got these young rookies in Stankhoven. The stanky legs. Yeah. Do the stanky legs. Yeah. Then you got Wyatt Johnstown. Johnstown. Johnston. Byron goals in left andown. Johnstown. Johnston.

Byron goals in left and right. Living in Pop's house? Uh-huh. Hey, the Wiley vets, too. How about Jamie Benn and Tyler Sagan? I think going into last game, since the beginning of the second round, combined for like 19 points. Texas hockey fans are ready to put these guys on waivers for Wyatt a few years ago.

I never said that. I love my team. Hey, Jamie Benn's? Two years ago. I never said that. I love my team. Hey, Jamie Bench from Victoria, brother. I never turn my back. That's true. We're about to end our time on ESPN. We'll continue on YouTube, ESPN Plus, TikTok. And speaking of TikTok, it needs to survive.

That clock is ticking. We'll have a long weekend here of watching hockey be fantastic. And I'm sure there's a golf tournament. Is there a golf tournament? Yeah, the RBC up in Canada. Oh, there it is. Oh, here we go. A big Canadian weekend. We'll obviously enjoy the hell out of that. We'll watch Spittin' Chicklets all weekend, too, so we can get

more and more of this man, Biz Nasty, who will continue to chatter on the other side. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. AJ, any final thoughts as we send off the TV? Yeah, AJ, you didn't say anything. What's going on, bud? I didn't say much, Biz.

I don't have a whole lot to say, but I do enjoy hockey. I enjoy what you do, Biz. You're doing great. How about to the people, AJ? Hey, I appreciate that, buddy. We got no time. See you Monday. All right, geez.

All right, we're stopped. Let's get back into this. You just brought up some of those Dallas fans and Dallas things. Ty, this was one of the stories of the playoffs, actually. Ty, I have a question for you, Biz. Yeah, Biz, is it safe to say that your rivalry with the Glassbanger is now done after you guys did that incredibly awkward interview when WWE superstar Jackie Redman brought him up

and everyone kind of assumed, hey, he's going to give it to Biz right now. He's going to talk a bunch of shit. He didn't. He kind of just stood there, didn't really say much. You were like, what the fuck's this guy doing up here? Have you guys squashed that beef? No. Okay, okay.

So, I mean, what's going on there? Because I kind of just assumed, you know, after that little interaction, okay, it's over. These guys are the best friends now. So that wasn't even planned. He just found out where the TNT crew was and where Jackie was, and he kind of inserted himself and I could see his right arm getting in the shot. It could, his blazer, you could see his

white blazer. So I was like pointing it out to Wayne because he actually, his father owns a place at Gnauser where Wayne lives in the summer. So Wayne knows this guy a little bit and he's met him. They've taken pictures before. So when we said that liam kind of heard us talking so he asked jackie who's that guy and then glassbanger popped up and then he was trying to play tummy sticks with us sending us like the heart emojis and shit where i thought that he was going to come in slinging but he didn't and and then afterward online then he started talking trash again so he didn't bring in he didn't bring that same energy that he had on Twitter to the broadcast, and then all of a sudden after he was spouting off again.

He couldn't get a word out. He really could not get a word out. They were alleging some things about him potentially, but he also could have froze up. He could have froze up. Alleging, oh, yeah. I mean, I think he's a few sandwiches short of a picnic, but, I mean, good guy nonetheless, I'm sure, behind the scenes.

I'm sure I'll get to see him when he's at Gosser this summer. Yeah, I'm sure you will. It'll be great interactions. If he can get the words out, there's a chance. A few sandwiches. Pretty good one. That's a good one. That's a guy's great one.

That is WWE superstar Jackie Redman. It is. He's the best. She's the hardest working person in hockey right now. She's at Monday Night Raw, and then she's at every game, seemingly, for you guys as well. She's doing interviews. Yeah.

I don't know how she does it, to be honest with you, but the coverage has been amazing. And this dude just got locked up, right? The lights came on. He couldn't do it anymore. The mustache ended up shutting the trap. Yeah, he got jammed up. Live TV.

Sometimes that happens to people, right? Not everybody's built for this, Pat. You know. Glassbanger's not built for it. Yeah. He's not built for it. He thinks he is, but he's not built for it. No, he thinks he wants something with old Biz Nasty.

He has no idea. He has no idea what he's signing up for. No. I don't have a problem. Maybe we should do a WWE match, me and Glassbanger. I'm sure you could organize that. Certainly. I mean, you just put it out in the universe.

We can make it happen. I do worry, though, that Glassbanger will fucking break his neck out. He frees up. Yeah. This guy couldn't even talk in front of a microphone. I couldn't even imagine what he would do in a WWE ring. Have a heart attack. A suplex by Biz.

Oh, he shit his pants. Oh, my God. He could bring a few of his pay-for-play ladies with him, too, as his ring girls, if he wants. I don't know if you guys have heard about that, too. He likes to bring in the back pages ladies, give them a free seat. He never recycles, either. He takes them to games. He's like Igor taking all that rubber.

Dumping rubber. Dumping rubber, baby. That's glass banger hockey, baby. Or he's got a Z-Pack handy. Yeah. Yeah. Don't want to be getting the old dick cold. We're probably getting fined for this.

No, no. It's all very free. It's all very valid points here. Because Glassbanger is a massive piece of that American Airlines Center No, no, no. What do you mean? It's all very free. I mean, it's all very valid points here. Because Glassbanger is a massive piece of that American Airlines center energy that Texas hockey is going to need, especially with what's going on up there in the Edmonton Church, you called it. I mean, Glassbanger is going to have to bring his best stuff. And however he gets himself ready for those games,

whether it's the back page, the front page, middle page, or a mirror. Some people were saying he was looking at pretty closely. It's a wild time. We appreciate the hell out of you, Biz. Keep killing it, brother. Hey, we appreciate you. Thank you so much for having me on, boys. Hey, tell Pasta we appreciate him for those 20

push-ups. That's sweet. I will. Love you, boys. Thank you so much. Yeah, booze! They say he was on drugs. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Cocaine.

Yeah, cocaine. I mean, wearing that. Alleging he was on drugs. That blazer, that stash, I could see it. He's on the pay-for-play game. All right. He doesn't recycle them either. He brings new people.

I think that's what he says. All right, we'll wrap up all the storylines that we did not talk about this week on the other side. Then we'll send to the world, hopefully, that is watching into the greatest weekend of all time. Hell yeah. Why not? The weather's getting good. It is. I can't chill down a little bit.

It's beautiful right now. 75. We're in a good spot. Yes. They are saying potential rain. Yeah. All day tomorrow. Yeah.

Here in Indianapolis. And then rain in North Carolina next week, too. Uh-oh. Yeah. Early Doppler for the soccer tournament. Well, I in Indianapolis. And then rain in North Carolina next week, too. Uh-oh. Yeah. Early Doppler for the soccer tournament. Sloppy pitch. Well, I'm not just worried about that. We're supposed to do a show live from a field, Don.

Oh, that's right. That's right. That hurts. Metal. Yeah. And I don't know how many inside things are down at this. I'll call Mother. She'll take care of it.

Mrs. Nature? Mm-hmm. Spores! mother. She'll take care of it. Ms. Nature? Mm-hmm. Sports! What a day it is! Hell yeah. What a day it is. That's A.J. Hawk, obviously. This man is a champion in college and in the pros, and he's the current president of Ohio. What's your next thing you're going to do?

What's your next thing you're going to do for Ohio? I think every time you have Kirk on, you even say Kirk is the president of Ohio. So it's up to Herbstreet. Let's see what his agenda looks like. Two presidents. You guys are two presidents. You can't have two.

You can't have two presidents. You know, you have two quarterbacks. You have none. Okay, so why'd Ryan Day do it then? Is that a sign? Yeah. Is that a sign? You tell me, AJ.

I don't know if Ryan Day does that. I don't know if he anoints the next president of Ohio because they don't technically have that. Who was standing up there and gave you the president title? There's no president title, but a couple years ago, some kind of Ohio award that I did get, but then they give it to somebody else every single year. Oh, so you're no longer the president? When did that end? No, never was.

Never was. No, you were. You were the depiction of Ohio excellence, I think is what the award was, if I do recall. Like, this is the model Ohio. This is, if you wanted to be Ohio, this is what you would be. Congrats, A.J. Hawk, Kirk Herbstreit. That's what it was, right? Did you guys wear a jacket?

Did you guys get a green jacket? I did not. Kirk may have gotten one, though. He may have. I don't know. Wait, so there's a different president now. Who is it? I didn't know that. Two? Who did Ryan Dane write? I'm not sure. I was have gotten one, though. There is. I don't know. Wait, so there's a different president now. Who is it? I didn't know that.

I didn't know. Two? Who did Ryan Dane run? I'm not sure. I was at the clinic this year. We did like a roundtable thing. I don't know who they gave this to. The Ohio's finest.

It is the finest. It's Brenneman. It's the finest Ohioan. Could be Tom Brenneman. Yeah, him and Vrabes. Well. I don't think so. Vrabes might have won it.

I mean, Vrabes could be. He definitely. He has, for sure. Especially just coaching for free up in Cleveland. Yeah, Bobby Carpenter's been campaigning for years, but they just won't give it to him. How come Ryan Day won't give the general Bob Carpenter the Ohio's finest trophy?

Bob probably got it 10 years ago. You know, Bob lives over there at the Woody Hayes Athletic Center. How is Ohio doing right now? Pretty good? The whole state? Like everybody? Yeah. Feels like everyone's doing pretty well.

Yeah, the weather's nice. At night, it's like a fall night. Feels like Friday night football almost right now. So it's good. That's what ours is like too. The Midwest weather right now, phenomenal. And the nighttime. Rain's coming though. Yeah, and it's going to be

hotter than fucking shit in like two weeks. Well, after the rain, then now there's the thickness. Yeah, rain it's going to be hotter than fucking shit in like two weeks. Well, after the rain, then, you know, now there's the thickness. Yeah, rain's good. Rain makes corn. Corn makes whiskey. Definitely need rain. Yeah. Understand that.

But we've had a lot of rain over like the last four months here. We have. I'm okay with us getting into a little bit of a drought. No offense to the farmers. The farmers need rain. And I think hopefully they've already had enough of their rain over the last two weeks. Oh I'm okay with us getting into a little bit of a drought. No offense to the farmers. The farmers need rain. And I think hopefully they've already had enough of their rain over the last two weeks. A lot of rain or whatever.

So let's make sure we're keeping the crops and the corn. We need to be knee high by the fall of July. Let's make sure we're getting all that stuff. But I would like it to remain like this. This is like spring. It feels like there's a spring. We haven't had spring in a few years. It's gone winter right to holy shit, it is like spring. It feels like there's a spring. We haven't had spring in a few years. No, we haven't. It's gone winter right to, holy shit, it is so hot.

And there's been no real in-between time. This feels like an in-between time, but I fear it's going to come and go pretty quickly. Yeah, I mean, tomorrow's June 1st. Once June gets here, we're in the middle of it. Yeah, but hey, it's much better than the alternative. I like the heat. I'm in on it being hot out. But this temperature now, that's the tightest point.

We should take advantage because it is so perfect. It is. So let's make sure we chat about everything we have to chat about. And then we let people get out into the beautiful weather. It's right outside this building that we're in right now. Coach Tobe, Kansas City Chief Special Teams Coordinator. One of the greatest of all time in the special teams world, will always be heralded as such.

I think he's been up for multiple head coaching positions, and if you're a special teams coordinator and you're getting head coaching interviews, that's obviously a massive amount of respect being shown to you by the entire NFL. He had a press conference, and he broke down basically some changes they're going to make because of the new kickoff that is instituted, and haven't chatted about it much not a lot of people have chatted about it much but i think a lot of the coaches and players that are in the nfl that are working on it all right now are thinking it could be a massive change in how the game is being played and it can be an advantage if you do take advantage of it here's coach joe but the kansas

city chiefs talking about the changes i like to have somebody that can go back you know is able to make a tackle i mean bucker is able to make tackle, but I really don't want him making tackles all year long. You know, if you watch the XFL, we watched every play. I bet kickers were involved in probably at least 25 to 40 percent of the tackles. You know, either trying to make a guy bounce back or making the tackle itself or just missing the tackle. So, you know, we don't want Bucker in that situation, you know, but he will be a kicker. He'll be a guy that we will use in certain situations. He's got a lot of ability to move the ball, you know, whereas those other guys may not be as, you know, apt to doing that. And, you know, we'll use him.

He can still kick a touchback if we need it. You know, you're just giving up the ball. If we do kick a touchback out of the back of the end zone, now they're getting it at the 30 instead of the 25. So that five yards makes a big difference. I mean, that's another 3% chance that, you know, you're giving the offense against you to score. What's the early evaluation on guys like Justin Reed?

Well, Justin can cover. I mean, he can kick, which he can do. And then he can go down there and make tackles. He's an extra guy that they're probably not accounting for. I mean, they know that that guy can go down and tackle, but a guy like Justin is a guy that they have to worry about. You have to get him blocked, and you have to give up blocking somebody else. So that's the whole thought of that.

Is it something about different kicking styles that might help you out as you're doing this? It's really hang time doesn't matter at all now. So hang time is out the door. I mean, you could do it, but it doesn't mean anything. But, you know, so now it's about accuracy, seeing what you're getting, how the returners are lined up, and then trying to kick away from them in the corners. But you can't take too much of a risk because if you hit it out of bounds, now you're giving the ball up at the 40.

If you hit it short of the target zone, you're giving the ball to the 40. So there's a fine line between pushing the limits and the edges or just going down and saying, hey, we can cover it. We're going to give them a ball that they can cover and then go down there with a kicker that can cover. Are there any benefit to touchbacks now at all? Yeah, there's benefit. I mean, if you're trying to get out of a game, you're up.

You don't want to give up a possibility of a turnover, you know, or a big return against you. You know, you just bang it out of the bat and you just say, hey, we're going to give up the five yards and give him the ball at the 30, which Barker can do. I mean, obviously, you know, he can. Lot, and this is, I don't think people fully comprehend it. Whenever you make a change to the special teams rules,

which has been happening over the last few years, these special teams coordinators, they watch the same amount of film as the offense and defensive coordinators somehow. When you think about that, they figure out a way. That's why they are the special teams coordinators. There's only 32 of those jobs. There's a lot of money to be made in that particular world, and there's a lot of games to be won if you do your job very well.

And there's long careers that are had by people, but they are obsessed with football. And they're trying to find every little thing, every little advantage to make their team better because that's what special teams can be. And Tobe's obviously doing that as we speak, AJ. Yeah, a guy like Justin Reed, I mean, it's interesting. That seems very valuable to have somebody that can,

because they don't even have to make the tackle. You have to just kind of be there and watch how everything's playing out and see okay this one might bust like i need to know where i need to turn it back to i need to know hey this can't get outside of me i need to push this to my outside help whatever it may be even if you don't make the tackle you need to be like in the body position to force him to all the other 10 guys that are chasing him but also at the same time like we're counting on these kickers to have like pinpoint accuracy now so this is gonna be fun like honestly i'm the more i hear about it the more excited i am to watch it happen to see how it plays out pinpoint accuracy is on the depth that's what it is it's like uh you know

whenever you're hitting a green you gotta obviously put it in the right direction because the green is so small but also you have to have the right distance like that's a massive piece of it is how is your distance and control like that is what the game is now your distance control now obviously he said you're gonna want to hit one right maybe so we know it's going right but there's only a certain amount of people that are allowed on each side of the hash marks anyways and they're already stopped so like is the advantage of the guy that you have who's a special teams weapon like if you have a slater on your team it's like okay we're gonna hit the ball at least towards that particular player or are we not and you know he mentioned, and that's a valid point,

like if you have Justin Reed out there as a safety, he obviously can kick. We've seen him kick field goals. We've seen him kick off. We've seen this happen before whenever position players will kick off for a team because the kicker gets hurt and the punter isn't able to do it because the punter grew up in Australia and never kicked a ball off the ground, has always been punting their entire life.

They have to account for Justin Reed now, too, you know, with their counts whenever they're blocking people so you might be able to avoid a double team on somebody because they got to go block Justin Reed and now you're able or more likely to make a tackle it's wild because kicker is not allowed past the 50 yard line until ball is touched until play begins because that was like one of my first questions to um coach riz down there at the saints whenever he was laying it out before it got approved it was like okay so the kicker just hits and we're down there that you're you're down in there not allowed to go past the 50 until the balls touch it's like okay you could definitely see why you'd want an athlete who can

kick a ball back there and that xfl stat and Foxy pointed this out this morning. He said, we watch all of them. 20 to 25% of the plays, the kicker was involved. And it's like, that's a lot of action. And with some of these kickers in a league, it's not a problem. Like there's a lot of very athletic dudes kicking balls in the league now.

I had like 20 some tackles. I don't even think I have the most in the history. I think Bosher had 20 something. Neil Rackers back in the day used to literally run down the field. Like, there has been kickers that have made tackles. But there's also some kickers that, like. Shouldn't be attempting to make a tackle. Now, in, like, Bucker, very thin, you know.

Gives speeches. Yeah. People know him for his speeches. Not thin. Not thin speeches. Those are thick speeches. Very long. Yep.

Seemingly just went on and on and on and on and on and on and on. But he is a very thin guy. Very jacked guy. But he's a very vital piece of their offense. Because he is a weapon. Like Harrison Bucker can hit from far. And Harrison Bucker hits that

shit just like Justin Tucker. Justin Tucker, another thin guy. Smaller guy. And he is a fucking weapon for the baltimore ravens it's like punters that kick off probably going to become a little bit more of a thing because no offense to the kicking community the punters are much more athletic than the kickers are we have to catch a ball naturally so that's just an added thing that has to take place normally bigger punters are normally bigger people i was like the shortest punter in the n NFL and able to move.

And a lot of Aussies come from Aussie rules football and rugby where they tackle. So it's like probably a lot more punters kicking off, if not positional players. And that's just something we haven't even thought of. And now as these special teams coordinators are diving into, it's going to be more and more and more changes. Yeah, especially like, I mean, we saw a situation with destroying. That kind of stinks. But it's like, do those guys need to now do tackling drills?

Like, for shoot, do kickers need to participate in like angles? For safety. Yeah, for safety. Yeah, yeah. And just taking the proper angles. Keep your head up. If you have adjusted. Me too.

Yeah, yeah. We're not spearing. You're a Bill Goldberg. You know what I mean? Be a speed bump. Just be a speed bump. Try to trip him up. That whole, you said, learning how to, and you're talking about it too,

is like forcing guys back and learning angles and things like that. There's one play that people on the internet put into highlights. And thank you all so much for that. Those are very cool to watch. I sit down and there'll be like a highlight reel that somebody's put together where they're either voicing it over in a hilarious way or there's music behind it. And it's like nice to be reminded. You know, like that is, yeah, that is pretty cool.

You know, I could move without pulling a hamstring from taking a dump. Yeah. Like, that is nice. Just saw one of those the other day of you. Very cool. Very, very cool. I'm very thankful for the people that do that. It's very nice of you.

It does make me feel good whenever I watch it, especially now with training for TST. But there's one against the Denver Broncos where I just de-cleat the blocker. Like, I just, I just, fuck it. Just going to hit the blocker, square in his chest. In my head, I was like, I'm going to hit blocker into returner. That's what I thought. Oh, yeah.

In my head, I thought that much through. I was like, yeah. That happened to me a few times, too. It didn't work out all the time. No, yeah, it did not. There was no way, science-wise, it was going to work either with how fast he was moving. He didn't think I was doing that either. So, like, I caught him off guard, and I do send him a little bit, you know? But the guy just scores a touchdown.

I mean, it's just, you know, because I'm down, that guy's down, and the guy scores a touchdown. And Chuck goes up to me after. He's like, be a fucking football player. Can we bring him back? Oh, you hit a guy. Can we bring him back to where everybody else is? And I'm like, in my brain, Chuck, I thought I was.

I thought I was going to tackle him off of a guy. In my head, I was like, is this going to be the most awesome tackle of all time? But I get it. Yeah, yeah, force him back. My help's inside. Got it. Got it, got it, got it. That's on me.

With, like, Reed, though, I mean, could you imagine if Justin Reed does Reed a, you know, return perfectly, and he has a 25-yard head start from the 50-yard line and he meets a guy in the hole? That would also be a collision. Now all of a sudden what the NFL doesn't want. Exactly. The NFL is like, well, we need to get rid of these full running starts with big-time guys who aren't scared to hit and make actual boom, boom, boom.

That's where our problems are. We're going to keep everybody together so that they can't get the big buildup, and then it's more like a punt return to run alongside each other. And the special teams coordinator is like, gotcha, bitch. We got actually the most. We got a safety.

We got the guy who's the most likely to do it. Imagine these safeties coming into the league. Like, for shoot. Might want to just start figuring it out. You don't have to worry about hang time. You don't have to worry about any of that. You just figure, okay, here we go. But the big difference is going to be outdoors, though.

Think about outdoors. Wind against you, wind at your back, or into the wind, swirling wind. Like, you're going to want to kick indoors if you're a kicker. You always have, but I think it'll be a big advantage. The only reason why I don't say – are linebackers all wearing, like, speeds? Right now they are, huh? Linebackers all wearing, like, speeds right now? They are, huh? Linebackers, everybody wears speeds seemingly. Linebackers are like, you know, 220 and freak athletes and run four threes now.

I'm talking about the cleats they're wearing, the low top, right? Everybody's seemingly wearing the low top. Everybody except for what? Linemen. Yeah, linemen for sure. So the issue is if you have those, like, mid-range shoes and you hit that, you hit it fat, that's going to land. That's not gonna

make it to the landing then the ball is on the 40 that's like a massive and you're not gonna change shoes as a linebacker you're gonna change your right shoe and in and out and do all that yeah so i think like that's an actual thing to think about like okay who can possibly run and hit this thing inside the landing zone on a regular basis because if you get an extra weapon covering you're gonna want it and with how it's set up there's going to be a lot of there's gonna be returns man people are going to get caught with not not having discipline in your in your fill lanes and everything running behind each other yep you peeked the wrong way whatever that's all it takes and since they're all kind of at the same level yeah we're gonna it's like fourth and one when someone loads the box and

dude breaks it for 75 because there's no help behind it. Okay, so the way this normally goes, and you're going to have to work with me because this is not a dry race sport, but five on each side, okay, on a kickoff. Here's the kicker back here. The moon. The moon. We went there. 1969.

That's the moon? Are we, uh, how did that Why was it such a clear audio? because we have the best fucking equipment in the world that's nasa i was talking to somebody in california this morning every other word driving through you know whatever mountains well they have everything we don't want to get into these goddamn 5g cell towers i was just gonna going to say, we don't want to discuss why Verizon was down yesterday. This is NASA, brother.

Anyway. Ah, fuck it. Do you think it's going to be like Gunners on the kickoff team and just put as many tight ends out there on the return team? No, so I think it's going to be bigger guys that are just going to... On kickoff? I think they're going to hold line. I think they're just going to wait. Or return. I think there's going to be bigger guys that are just going to – I think they're going to – On kickoff? I think they're going to hold line. I think they're just going to wait.

Or return. I think it's going to like – I think there's going to be a couple guys that are going to be attackers, but I think a lot of people are going to be two-gapping. Yeah. I think that is – You're going to be setting picks out there if you're playing – if you're on offense, I think.

Hey, just don't let them cross your face, whatever it may be. All you need, literally, all you need, okay, so like five across here. Let's just act like five four three two normally let the one go okay shout out to wheezy and also special teams so fives are on the inside and then you work out towards the ones it's like normally the ones are free they become like safeties they drop back twos are the ones that are normally hunting and then these three are kind of just like huh huh let's play it kicker's job is to maintain triangle triangle triangle with wherever ball is but it's like you can't have ones just be

the safety because if they're all lined up at the same time you could just take that fucker yeah right at the one all of a sudden you know it's like it's going to change the history of rules because like people hide who the ones are and the ones are just the safeties but they're always considered the one so finding the one oh the one is at the four now our count is different so then it's two three four one five is how it goes whenever it comes to like blocking so i'll be excited to see where they put who's doing what who they designate as safety players, because you might want some size. You might want a couple of bikes that are kind of sitting back, two-gapping.

You might want full speed so that you can maybe beat them off the line through the setup zone. It's like there's so many more things that are valuable. Like that first 10, all of a sudden, very important here. For sure.

Whenever you're five yards away from me, the person who's supposed to be blocking you, that first 10 now all of a sudden is a much more important For sure. Whenever you're five yards away from the person who's supposed to be blocking you. Like, that first 10 now, all of a sudden, is a much more important stat than we've ever thought of it. And then it's, they're going to take advantage. All you need, all you need, okay? All you need is for this fucking guy to go that way and this guy to go this way. And that is a fucking touchdown.

All you need is two people next to each other to fuck up at the same time on the same play that's every kickoff that's why the kickoff is so electrifying because literally you this guy just got this guy just got signed okay on thursday what's his name uh 44 that's his name we have no idea what the fuck this guy's name is he's a dog this guy just joined a team two weeks ago he had never played special teams before this guy never in his life and they just accidentally opposite ways opposite leverage we're gone like that is yep with a 4-2-40 runner with the ball it's like gone like that is very feasible to happen like anytime 1500 1,500 more plays, that's what they're saying?

You're talking about, I'm not going to say 100 touchdowns. There's going to be a lot of touchdowns. That's going to be early. I'm interested to watch how it goes from the first four games of the season to the last four. How it morphs and how different and how much better I think the coverage teams become.

I think, amen, getting better. What's new strategy? Throwbacks? I mean, throwbacks. They kick it over here. Sweet. We're going to throwback over here.

Fake reverses all the time. They'll do everything. Try to get a wall return set up. Yeah, and you can bring this fucker. You can loop. I mean, if you know the ball. Are they going to stop, like, D-line stunts kind of like that? So there is, I mean, there is crosses.

I mean, like, these normally you can get, like, this person's blocking the two. So they'll, like, peel. But I don't think you're allowed to even do that. I don't, I think they're, the opposite sides of the field. That used to be, like, this person would take out the two, and it was a fucking, it was a blindside. Yeah, massive hit. Murder. Yeah, it was a kill.

Or it was a complete miss, and this person's got free. Like, Slater's like at the two. That's where you put your gunners at. They are going. They have a green light to go normally. Now, you might move your two in if they got a good read on who it is, or you can't get any separation. But it's like they're going to figure out how to take advantage of this rule.

You know, every special teams coordinator that is worth a grain of salt will certainly put their stamp on this. But I think it is going to be good for football. But what a fucking weird setup. That's a weird thing that they're going to have to show on TV. It's going to take time to get used to. The first couple weeks it is. It's going to look so fucking weird seeing that every kickoff.

I had real mental problems when I was doing a punt after a safety. I felt so weird because I'm doing a fake snap to myself, which I do in practice, but you're just standing there in an open stadium pretty much like, okay. And no line. It's kind of weird.

It's a weird thing. I couldn't even imagine how this is going to... Yeah. That's so weird. The spider cams would be really cool, though. What's that? The spider cams would look really cool with this is going to happen. Yeah. That's so weird. Just spider cams would be really cool, though. What's that? The spider cams would look really cool with this. The sky cam?

Yeah. Yeah, up behind it? Yeah. You're right, though. I don't want Boz kicking off. No way. I mean, Boz is not known to be a big-time hitter, even though he's a Texas boy and hits the hell out of a football.

He's shaped just like Tucker is. And all you need is a guy blocking you. You don't even need to make the tackle. You just need somebody to come block you. That was whenever I felt real complimented. When people were coming to block me, that was cool. That was a cool day. That was a really cool day. What's sweet with this, too, is how it could change. Let's say you're playing

a team and it's like, okay, these guys have all speed on their kickoff team. Usually, we go all speed, but this week we're going to put four linemen this week we're gonna put four linemen yeah we're gonna put four linemen our fullback in three of our linebackers out there and let's see because then you would have to change it right like could you imagine just like first kickoff against the miami dolphins they have their special teamers in there all right we got a good read on what they're doing then all of a sudden they dropped tyree kill and jaylen waddle yeah all

of a sudden it's a whole new fucking we are Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddell in the back. Bingo, yeah. All of a sudden, it's a whole new fucking, we are in a different time than we were in the first quarter real quick. You know, like, so many of those, it's going to be good. I bet you Roger Goodell feels

very good about kind of forcing this to happen, seemingly. Now, XFL obviously deserves a lot of credit because they were the first ones to take a drill from practice, put it in the game, and it's all their data and analytics that were used to get this pass to keep the play in football. So congrats to Ben, I believe is his name, from Stanford, his former football player, rules expert for the XFL.

But the more we hear special teams coordinators talk about it, the more we're going to be like, oh, there's a lot of possibilities here. A ton. There's a lot. And these special teams coordinators will smoke meth and any upper they can to stay up all night to try to figure out what the best plan of attack is for this particular set. That is literally how they go about their business. That's how they keep their jobs. And what's this here? This is the last kickoff return for the Colts?

God, man. Yeah, shot out of the cannon. That was a good day. He played for the Texans, too, before then, so it was obviously a big thing for him. I don't know why that's the last. The last kickoff return ever was actually the Patriots against the Bills in Week 18 last year.

That's probably the Colts. They had two, right? We were in L.A. watching that. He said that this would be the closest to the coverage team. All be on the same level. Who said that? Coach Chuck. Oh, Coach Chuck Pagano sent this in? Oh, yeah. For Chuck, we just scored.

I mean, this was against... Yeah, go ahead, Ruffalo. I was the coach here. Yeah, look at, Ruff. I was your coach here. Yeah, look at the score there. 16-14. See that? Third quarter. Hey, Chuck.

Hey, Chuck. Hey, thank you, Chuck. Thank you, Chuck. You see that? Kareem, great teammate. Great special teamer. He was on the Texans. I think he returned one maybe against us for the Texans.

He was a great returner. Not really talked about because I don't think he played as long. It is whenever you get a kickoff return, though, like the entire – we're going to win the game. Stats normally – I think against the Green Bay Packers, we took the opening kickoff back to the house against you guys. I believe so. In Green Bay.

At Lambeau, yeah. We were going to beat you. Yep. If you take a kickoff to the house, stats say throughout here, you're going to win the game. Like that is kind of – because I think momentum maybe isn't even even justified into that but if you take a kickoff to the fucking house just the odds that go up yeah it's like getting turnovers you get one turnover you get yeah two turnovers oh you got a good chance to win all that stuff i wonder what the new odds will be if

because what i assume there's going to be games where both teams give up kickoff i was going to say how many times do you think we'll see like-to-back, like a team's house is won and then on the next kickoff? That would be electrifying. That'd be awesome. They're just going to start kicking in the end zone and taking it to 30. Yeah, true. Yeah, true, depending on the odds, because he said there's a 3% difference. 3% is a very small percentage,

whenever you're thinking about the entirety of percentages on weighing a decision, pros and cons or whatever. But, yeah yeah i will be excited to see which teams just decide no we ain't got it what about the moving parts of you know a kickoff team to like your kickoff cover team a lot guys get dinged up guys get tired like you're gonna you're you're constantly replacing trying to put backups in trying to like fill gaps and fill fill the guy the 10 guys covering there plus the kicker, like, yeah, things are going to happen, man. There's going to be some spots where people don't have a ton of game reps

and they're going to be thrown in there and trying to figure it out. Yeah, that'll just be, hey, we need touchback. And there'll be zero chance of them bringing it out of the end zone if you kick it into the end zone. You know, that'll be the heels will be on the goal line. Actually, heels on goal line here. If it goes in there, we'll take it at the 30. It's going to change the game.

Yeah, a kicker gets hurt on the opening kickoff. All of a sudden, the other team's starting at the 40. Kickers are going to get hurt. No, kickers are good. I don't want them to, but they're going to be involved in many more plays, as Tobe told us. Yeah, it's going to happen. I think the good news about this crop of kickers

with how athletic they are. It'd be just fine. These guys aren't going to have any embarrassing moments where you get shook in the middle of the field and Antonio Brown goes in. You're not going to get Julian Edelman just to stick one and run right by you. Kickers aren't going to get hurt because no one's getting hurt this year. Well said. That's a great way to end this thing.

Well said. Thank you so much for that. Zero. I'm happy we're making that proclamation now, too. Because I think last year, whenever I said it, I was too close to the season. It didn't have a chance to really work its way in. So you making that announcement here on May 31st,

Universe Bowl? That's a lot of pressure. Oh, no. What's that? That's a bonus ball. That's a bonus ball coming back. That thing's coming right back. No one's still getting hurt. Fish on.

Yes. One person's getting hurt. You got a polo on. There it is. Two people are getting hurt. This is the first this is tissue oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh Two jacked up. Oh, no. Put it in the ball. Perfect. Perfect. No injuries. Boom.

Bam. Okay. No injuries. Zero. And at the most, five. Holy shit. Nope. I felt the weight of the league.

Take it off because you did it. We did it. What a week. What a week. It's about to get real good. Ain't that right, AJ? I'll tell you what, I'm pretty excited for this soccer tournament coming up. I'm not going to lie.

Is it field turf or is it grass? Grass, grass, grass, grass. Beautiful grass. From what we've been told. You only play on grass, right? I know the real pros only play on grass. Well, I think that was something that was said about Methy, but then Methy said that wasn't true.

I'll play on turf, whatever the need is. But, yes, soccer, footy, normally played on grass. Remember, all the NFL stadiums say, this turf's not good for the soccer players. No, no. The grass we play on out there is terrible. The worst. So, I'm excited to get on a flat field.

Every time I go to run, I'm like, oh, I'm going to roll my. Yeah, you got to look down. Yeah, I'm going down into a hill. Yesterday was by far the best day. It was, I'm not going to give away our strategy because we're not going to do that. But very game-like out there yesterday. I cannot express that enough. Confidence is rising.

Okay. With where I still know there's a chance that any muscle in my body could get torn. Sure. Any ligament could potentially, there's a chance that could happen. And my lungs can certainly get, uh, blowed up. You know, there's a chance. But what's happening with ball and foot right now, feet, shall I say, even with the left one getting in, I did not expect to happen. So much so that I actually thought to myself, you know, I haven't played soccer a long time, but I did kick balls a long time. Did I maybe get better with ball because profession was kicking a ball that is tough?

It's a tough ball. Yeah. Ball is tough. You know, small sweet spot. So you got to find like I balls moving where I want it to go right now. It's a tough ball. Ball is tough. Small, sweet spot. Ball's moving where I want it to go right now. Yesterday was a fun day. It was an enlightening day, I think, for both Gumpy and I.

It was also like third straight day of me hitting balls. So able to... Yeah, your body's holding up. Bingo. Now, I'm not doing a warm-up that this concave soccer club's going to do. Don't even mess withingo Now I'm not doing a warm up That this concave Soccer club's gonna do Don't even mess with it I am not

I will be watching them Do their fucking Get out there and go When the whistle blows Bingo That's why we got a deep roster Dude it's 20 folks obviously

So you got Eddie Fucking Speed Yeah Speed Breccia Eddie Speed Zat I guess is a doll Zat Knight, yeah. And Jeff Cameron is a monster.

I mean, like, the team, you know, a lot of people, and I heard JJ say, I didn't know anybody on your roster. It's like soccer people know what we have here. You fool. And this was a strategy. You know, whenever the Tennessee Titans go on and move on from Vrabel, we think this team's got no strategy. They do.

They do. They clearly put out what their strategy is. If you were to look at our roster and what leagues these guys played in, how they played, the style of soccer in which they played, there was real strategy put into place when building this particular team. We've got a lot of guys that are used to smaller fields. We've got guys

that have a lot of quick touches. We've got guys that can move, and we've got guys that are in their primes. Now granted, Breck Shea, Jeff Cameron, they're like wine. They're only getting better exactly mikey grella obviously paisano is going to do his thing mike foss might have two torn hamstrings he's going to go out there and run the way he runs but what foss and jeff cameron put together here is a team that i think is going to do well in the seven on seven tournament that we are going to play in. And I'm lucky to be a part of it. All I'm looking for is a couple minutes game.

And I think we have gotten to the point training-wise where I'll be able to survive a couple minutes a game. And that's concave for soccer club soccer, baby. That's what it is. I'm pumped up about it. I'm excited to get down there too, AJ. I've heard the place, the facility is really nice too. When I looked at the website a few times,

I was thinking, man, this is a real professional operation. So they have, I think, the NCAA championships there for a couple... Jesus Christ. My bad. Yeah, I think I swallowed a bug. You swallowing cigars up there, dude? You inhaling cigars, dude? No, I can't inhale them. No, I don't know what's

going on. Is Blocky in the RBC? I don't think so. Nah, he's out. Memorial Tournament's next week here in Columbus. He'll be there. You renting your house out? Nah, I'll be in North Carolina. So you are renting your house out?

Nah, we're going to be here. The Hawks? The kids, my wife, they're going to most likely be here. Not bad business plan for you though in the past? You've made a good amount of money off of that? Nope, not at all. But, you know, we were out of town.

No, I didn't hate anything about it, but yeah. I mean, it was. Yeah, I hated it. I know some people that are renting their house out, though, coming up this year. Good business. We had a guy who had a big field. He also had a cat, I think,

but he had a big field next to the Oakmont Country Club there in Pittsburgh. And he would just sell parking whenever the tournament would come through there. And he made a lot of money. He would bank off of people parking in his field.

Is the house rental similar for these golf tournaments or no? The house is on the course. They used to be even bigger and get more uh the house is on the course so i think they used to be even bigger and get more money but house on the course will rent their house to big like companies company comes in puts plastic down covers things up and then they run the house for the whole week the family moves out those people make some cash yeah okay sweet you can probably upcharge those companies you won't black out our house yeah yeah come on down. General Bob Carpenter's coming through here,

just like he's coming through the neighbor's house and the next one. We used to go in college, yeah. When we were in college, we used to go in those houses. Hide the paint. That was back when Ohio State was paying players in different ways on golf courses. I didn't get paid. I was just going and scrounging up drinks from different people. Paid in beers.

Oh, okay. I like that. That's Ohio. That's Ohio's finest. Did you see the Pandas coming back to America? Yep. We got them coming home. Really?

Son of a bitch. Two of them coming back. This is a big deal. All pandas are going to be gone from the United States. Zoos and everything. Two of them coming back to D.C., which we are pumped about. Washington, D.C. Now, it's not the two older pandas that have been living there and getting shipped back

because the lease had been done from China. We got two young ones coming back to America. Bowley and King Bow. They look like demons, don't they? King Bow's a doll. They look like fucking demons.

They look like panda bears. We're all thankful that the panda is coming back to the united states of america because there was a time there where no kids in the united states of america were going to be able to go to the local zoo you see a panda bear that's bullshit yeah i don't want to live in that america can we change their names what does that translate to uh green and treasure and treasure and energetic so a lot of treasure going on that's the bowel part probably what they're after booty Booty? Yeah.

You think the pandas are coming in to steal our booty? Of all the places. Did you guys know D.C. had the most famous zoo in America? Yeah, what's going on? I thought it was in San Diego. Me either. So why the fuck are they going to our nation's capital? In an election year.

You're right. I don't know what King Bow and Bowley are up to. Are these pandas felons too? Look at that. Is that their parents stripping them off? No, that is not King Bao and Bao are. Are these pandas felons too? Look at that. Is that their parents stripping them off? No, that is not King Bao. That must be them. Okay, go fulfill your destiny and assassinate

the president, panda. No, that is not going to happen. I don't know. That is not going to happen. These pandas are going to roll around and eat bamboo. I hope. That's what they're going to do in D.C. And they're going to make kids that go to the zoo go, I'm happy to know that animal exists. These are the only two in the United States of America. Kids? Yeah, kids going to do in dc and they're going to make kids that go to the zoo go i'm happy to know that animal exists these are the only two in the united states of america kids yeah kids going to the zoo fucking joe's got really going to be the only two they're bringing them back only two in america

remember the last the last uh the last two were gone they were shipped out like uh i think this week it's ending the lease that we have why Why don't we start breeding them? Let's start breeding them here. You can't breed them. You've got to make them in a lab. Who made that rule? Who made that rule? China owns all these pandas. This is real.

So let's get one or two pandas we own and let's make a bunch. See, that would be impossible because you see the pandas are owned by China. We own these ones. It doesn't make sense. I looked it up in the Smithsonian National Zoological Park. It's one of the top in the nation. One of the top. One of. Indianapolis, obviously, number one. I don't make sense. I looked it up in the Smithsonian National Zoological Park is one of the top in the nation. One of the top. One of. Indianapolis, obviously, number one. I don't think so. They got Zubilation coming

up, brother. Zubilation's fun. I went to the Indy Zoo on Memorial Day. It's a good zoo. It is great, too. How about the chimpanzees? It's awesome. And they have them out. They're just fucking walking in the cages and just sitting there and just staring at people as you're going through the park.

It was great. The wife said Mackenzie walked up to the chimpanzee exhibit. Chimpanzee walked right up to my daughter Mackenzie, had a moment, and then just kind of walked away. Oh, yeah. I would like to know what they each said. Like, is that chimpanzee saying, I would like to eat that kid? Or are they saying, oh, that's one of us? And what was Mackenzie thinking back to the chimpanzee?

I think the Indianapolis Zoo is on the up. I think it's going. I think they got's one of us. And what was McKenzie thinking? Back to the chimpanzee. I think the Indianapolis Zoo is on the... I think it's... I agree. I think it's going... I think they got a lot of money. Wait till it's the dead heat of summer and those rhinos look like boulders because they don't fucking give them water or wash them. They give them water.

They tranquilize the shit out of them every single morning. The last time I was there, they had fucking wildebeest in there and they had this much water in the entire... They drank the water. Speaking of wildebeests in there, and they had this much water in the entire place. They drank the water. Speaking of wildebeests, thank you for the transition. Super pigs are coming from Canada. So Canada gives us Canadian geese, which we all hate. Not that I'd touch them, by the way.

They are protected. Now Canada's sending super pigs into the United States of America. The border conversation has been one that's been happening everywhere. If this isn't a reason to fucking border up our northern border to Canada, I don't know what is. They're saying these things are the size of horses. 680. Aggressive.

Violent. 680 ponds. Gizmodo's never missed. Oh, okay. We're going to say Gizmodo. You think they're the only ones? The super pigs have been called for for the last couple years making their way to America. I don't know if they're on some super pig pilgrimage, but everybody's saying these fuckers are making their way into our towns. We need to keep an eye out. And I think there should be a rule just like coyotes.

Okay. In the United States of America, you're allowed to hunt a coyote anytime you want. See what you can kill. We need a super pig green light around the United States of America for these fucking assholes. Because these things will reproduce down in Louisiana. They've got hog issues because these things are fucking like rabbits in their own. Could you imagine the fat stacks of bacon though you get off those things? Super pig bacon?

Yeah, but Canadian bacon stinks. You're right. You're right. Ham. Ham is. Yeah, it's not good. There's no way it's good. They're going to be shooting these things from helicopters like they do in Texas.

No, what we could do is we could build a wall on our border. Well, I think the super pigs could potentially lead to us doing that, especially on the northern side. Yeah. Especially on the northern side. Why don't we just set up a bunch of turrets at the border, like every, I don't know, 50 yards with some beacons, some night vision, some thermal technology.

Sounds cheap. We should fucking take Canada back. And then there are Super Pigs. We never had it. And Super Pigs would not be a reason why we would want Canada. No. Yeah. Maybe poutine.

Poutine, yeah. Maybe Tim Hortons. Timmy Horton. King Timmy Hortons. Smooth Cream. Smooth Cream is pretty good. Black Tiger. No, the Tiger Tiger.

Tiger Tiger. Smooth Cream is their peanut butter. It's delicious. It is pretty good. Black Tiger. Tiger, Tiger. Smooth Creamer is their peanut butter. It's delicious. It's so good. It is very good. Labatt Blue. Labatt Blue. Molson XXX.

Those cool guys in the red on horses. Fucking Mounties. Mounties, yeah, that would be a reason. Loonies and Toonies. Hockey. Lacrosse. Yeah, we get Whistler. Curling.

100% maple syrup. Pond Hockey. Yeah. Letterse. Yeah, we get Whistler. Curling. Curling, where do we have? 100% maple syrup. Pond hockey. Yeah. Letter Kenny. Oh, yes. Evergreens. Who's that? There's a bench.

Shorzy. Shorzy, there he is. Johnny Bench. There's not enough pines. Johnny Bench is an American, you son of a bitch. He's a great catcher. He's a great catcher of all time, yeah. Yeah, I know. I agree.

Actually, Mike Piazza's number one. Well, him and Benito Santiago, my bad. Sorry, Benito. But yeah. And Pudge. Pudge is pretty good. And Jason fucking Kettle. Jason Kettle.

You're right, Pudge. Jason Kettle. There's a lot of great ones. Fucking poor man. Veritech, Mike Pizza. When you're talking best catcher of all time, you're talking one man and one man alone. That's Jason Kettle, brother. Signed. Biggest Chaz you've ever seen. And's Jason Kendall, brother. Signed.

Biggest Chas you've ever seen. And he goes gloveless on the bats. That's Jason Kendall baseball. I think Jared Jones might, too. Might. I think Paul Skeens and that whole crew, they might go quadruple lip pillows. Noses, too.

Maybe. That's old school. Is that what the kids are doing? That's old, old, old, old, old school. Noses too. Maybe. That's old school. That's old, old, old, old, old school. Right? Oh yeah. Snuff. There's no way you've... Done snuff before?

Yeah. Yeah, no. Definitely not. Isn't that from the 1900s? I mean, yeah, but when you have block scheduling in high school and your freshman year, you have woodworking and it fucking sucks and you're sick and tired of making a birdhouse, you might sneak into the bathroom and –

Freshman year? Snuff it up. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Who's got the snuff, boys? And then pass that around, boom, you go in and you put a thick coat of lacquer on your birdhouse. Yep.

We're not recommending this to anyone. No, no. We're just saying this is factual stories. Might stop on the wayhouse. Yep. We're not recommending this to anyone. No, no. We're just saying this is factual stories. Might stop on the way home, though. No, no, no. I don't get some fucking buglers anymore. Now is not the time, boys. Bugles?

I love bugles. No, buglers. They roll your own six. Okay. I like bugles, too. You meant bugles that snack. You meant bugles. I love bugles, yeah.

The little pounds. I don't see them too much. You don't see them around that much. They're out there. Every gas station I walk into, nacho cheese one is good. Pizza, I think there's a pizza one. Pizza is a good one. You know the rich cheese crackers are better

than the peanut butter ones. I agree. Those are harder to find than the peanut butter ones. I agree. I don't know about that. You like the orange ones? You don't know shit. Yeah, the those are harder to find than the peanut butter one. I agree. I don't know about that. You like the orange ones? You don't know shit. Yeah, the rich cheese.

Are we talking about the small ones? Yeah, I like the peanut butter. No, I'm a peanut butter guy. I'm a peanut butter guy as well, but I think the rich cheese one does not have as much representation as it should in the conversation and in the story. I like the cheese one. Club crackers are the best.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Love saltines as well. Saltines are legit best. Oh yeah. Love saltines as well. Put some peanut butter on saltines. I have just a standard plain, give me a plain Ritz. They put so much salt on them. So much butter. They're delicious. They can't be more buttery than club ones.

I will eat a Ritz too. I don't like the packaging. I'm about fucking sick of that. Packaging stinks. Ritz or club? Ritz. The club is not bad, right? Kind of both. They both kind of have the take off the top.. Ritz or club? It does. Ritz. The club's not bad, right? Kind of both. Yeah, no, they both kind of have the take off the top. The Ritz one sucks for sure.

Yeah. Because the top five are getting destroyed. Yeah, crumpled to shit. Yeah, and we only have so many. Right. Oh, I love them. Club, though, is so good. I love them both.

Club are delicious. Me too, me too, me too. I'm a saltines guy, I'll be honest. You ever do that challenge of the saltines? I have, yeah. And we got through it? Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah.

It sucks. It fucking sucks. Speaking of wood, you're basically chewing on a birdhouse, but it's still good. Oyster cracker. Oh, my God. You're right. Yep. I take it back.

Skyline Chili. They bring them out to your table. Nothing to do with the ocean. Yeah, they come in boxes. They actually come in mud. I've actually gone in and found the oysters before. I just want to let you know that. No, like the oysters that you put in like clam chowder.

Oh, I thought you were talking about actual oysters. No, no, no. Just the oyster crackers. Chicken noodles. Oh, I'm not a big soup guy. I never got into that. They're like saltines, but with 3D. Yeah, like the little...

Yeah, 3D saltines I'm changing my answer to that I will dump those in though Those will certainly add some texture Chicken noodle soup, are you kidding me? That's amazing It's like a It's a new pants

What's the fried bread in salads? What are those? Croutons I love croutons I used to just fucking eat that shit. A little garlic bread. Yeah. Toasted garlic bread.

Yeah. But the crouton for the soup is definitely in there. Yeah, I love oyster crackers. So you can eat those things just hand over fist. Doesn't matter. You know, cinnamon raisin bread with some good butter after being toasted. So fucking good. The wife, Samantha, that's like a go-to at the house at night.

It's like, this is good. Cinnamon sugar bagels. Sweet tooth. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah. AJ hasn't had any of this. No.

When are we going to get to the grilled chicken? What's your guys' favorite chicken? I just don't like raisins. Mine's nothing. Cinnamon sugar bread or cinnamon sugar bagel is amazing. Cinnamon, I just don't want the raisins in there. I don't like that. I'm a texture guy. You get that weird mushy texture involved.

That just freaks me out. I like raisins for some reason. I am a big texture person when I'm eating stuff. I don't mind the raisins. Have you guys had cinnamon swirl bread? It is without the raisins. Was it just expanded version of cinnamon toast crunch? Kind of.

Yeah, basically. It has swirls in it. It is so fucking raisins. Was it just an expanded version of Cinnamon Toast Crunch? Kind of. Yeah, basically. It has swirls in it. It is so good. CTC. Pretty good. I hate cereal. I don't like cereal. Yeah, we know.

We've learned a lot. Cinnamon Toast Crunch is amazing. Yeah, I've never heard a single person say I hate chicken nuggets or Cinnamon Toast Crunch. That's the thing. It's true. Hey, did you know McDonald's is selling baskets of fries? Did you know that? you know mcdonald's is selling just i don't know baskets yeah yeah did you know that i've been to mcdonald's no shit probably 10 000 times in my life there was one walkable they created a dollar menu whenever i was very young it was like hey

here's meal like this is i had cereal and mcdonald's that was literally what i grew up on. I have never, ever, in my entire life, seen a basket of fries show up. Our new graphic designer, Derek DeBone, he just pulled the trigger this morning on a McDonald's order. Obviously, you get judged in this office

no matter what you order. You're going to get attacked. What Tone ordered today was maybe the greatest fry I've ever had in my life. So D-Bone heard about these fries and he was like, I can't wait to get some fries. Everybody enjoys McDonald's fries. Have you ever seen a

basket of fries? I've never... Because McDonald's has it figured out. They have the scooper of the fries that fits perfectly into the container of the fries. This is actually three extra large fries in one basket, which is what D-Bone got today and ate every single one of them. And the only reason we gave

D-Bone shit is because right before he ordered McDonald's, he's like, I know I'm a big dude, but I really don't enjoy eating. I don't like eating. And then he spent like $80 on McDonald's, literally 10 minutes later with the biggest basket of fries known to man. Four fries. Family fry in a basket

for myself. Yeah, it was quite a series of events. But I learned something about McDonald's today. I thought I fucking knew everything about McDonald's. I legitimately know. I thought the portions were getting smaller. I thought they were trying to take that away from me. Now if you order the fucking basket, brother. Yeah, I think that's a secret menu this guy has.

Yeah. How do you even put that in a bag? You got to get a duffel bag to place that in. You can't put that in a normal bag. Yeah, agreed. I think it was all by itself in its own paper bag. He pulled it out. Yeah. It was a nuclear football.

I'm like, what the fuck? I mean, they're good. They're crispy. They're good. There was a Burger King operating down in the south side of Pittsburgh that wasn't actually a Burger King. They were just saying they were a Burger King. They stole the licensing, and they were just wrapping burgers that they were making, similar meat, flame broil

sesame seed buns just kind of lying about it you know and they were just wrapping it in random wrappings they didn't have Burger King stuff obviously so you get fries it's just in a plain container pretty much and then it's just like is this really burger it's $2.30 and more who gives a fuck

wow this flame broil is really good I'm gonna get out of here I thought that's what he ordered, like something from McDonald's, like a fake McDonald's gave him this basket of fries. That's how alarmed I was when I saw it. They did look delicious. They were. I had some. He had what?

Something from a gas station is what everybody said? No. Pizza and chicken express. Yeah. Oh. Those fries are fucking. AJ. To die for.

Heard these fries from the other side of the Thunderdome as he was crunching into them. It had a chip pop, these French fries. So good. Crispier the fry, better for me. Big, nasty, mushy fries that they don't cook them enough. Absolutely not. I want nothing to do with it. So the French call them steak freights,

which is like the mashed potato fry. Yeah, those stink. Worst one. You know why? Why? Because there's mashed potatoes in there. The worst form of potato. That is a terrible argument. Let's get to the weekend. I'm with you.

That is a terrible argument. Let's get to the weekend. Terrible. How do we go out here? Terrible argument. The shape, yes, stinks. But it being every fry is mashed potatoes in the inside. Do you think that one had any mashed potato inside of that?

Anything from a gas station. I don't know what the fuck's in there. What we're saying is we would eat the gas station French fries. Is that supposed to be? Yeah, because that's. Okay. That's what it looked like, right, Tony? That's a bit misleading.

Yeah. They're catfishing, folks, but it tastes better than it looks somehow. It comes on the wooden board at all. I've never eaten in person there, so it doesn't look like that when it comes in the side. I mean, you don't eat it on a cutting board every single time. But the fries and the chicken kind of look similar. The fries were so good. The chicken looks good.

You do get a gallon of gas for free, though. Really? Yeah. I don't know if it's a gas station. It might be a food truck. I'm not 100% sure. One of the two. Chicago Bears are on TV.

They're Caleb Williams joyfully jogging down the field. Going to see a lot of that on Hard Knocks. That was a good piece of information this week Great news Did he? Yeah, half our secondary was not there though What are they? I don't know, they weren't there today

Well, that's not good Is everybody okay? Maybe it's a team building trip Go up against the back house This will be good for you Also on the defensive side, fuck. Yeah, go up against the back house. This will be good for you. No, and also on defense aside, fuck this. Let's go golf. Let's go Navy Pier.

Yeah. Let's go get on the Ferris wheel at Navy Pier. They get a boat out there on the golden. That'd be sick. The golden, what's it called? The golden. You talking about Gold Coast? Yeah, the Gold Coast.

There it is. No, Gold Coast is up in Chicago. It is. It's beautiful. Hey, it is. Gorgeous. Chicago in the summer, real deal. It plays.

I've heard of the greatness of Chicago in the summer. I was not aware of the Gold Coast. Yeah, the Gold Coast. There's like a beach there with like this incredible water. It's really nice. And then they got a lot of fucking boats. Everybody's out there. Everything's on a walkable.

It's really nice. It gets hot. It gets very humid in Chicago. Yeah, thick. Wind dies down? Sometimes. No, it stays windy. Chicago's a good city.

I mean, you guys are going to fuck it up with the new stadium, but... No, no, no. It's still a nice city. Same spot. So what's going to happen? We'll just move and get done. So it's not the same spot. I have to bulldoze the museum to put a parking lot in.

I love that museum. The museum is not going anywhere. That is a nice little setup there. You know, that entire... The museum, the zoo, I think is up there. The museum is not going anywhere. That is a nice little setup there. The museum, the zoo, I think is up there. The aquarium or whatever. The zoo is a little further down. I don't think I've been to the zoo. Chicago Zoo, good?

Yeah, we have two good ones. Brookfield and Lincoln Park. Lincoln Park is really good. You guys got any pandas? Yeah. No, you don't. No, we don't. Yeah, you don't.

It might have been dogs. I don't know. Easy. Amen. Spray painted dogs't. Yeah, you don't. Oh, it might have been dogs. I don't know. Easy. Amen. Spray-painted dogs. That's not a funny joke. Tell them. Yeah, they're pandas there.

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