The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1142 - LIVE From Cary, North Carolina With JJ Watt, Shams Charania, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

On today's show, Pat, AJ Hawk, and the boys are LIVE from The Soccer Tournament (TST) in Cary, North Carolina as Pat's team Concafa SC is competing. They chat about all the biggest news stories floati...ng around the sports world including Jontay Porter's lifetime ban and what it means for betting in the NBA and sports in general, the NBA signing a new 76 billion dollar media rights deal, all the news from NFL training camps, and everything else happening. They are also joined by JJ Watt, who is playing with the Burnley FC squad in TST, and Shams Charania to more thoroughly break down the Johntay Porter situation and preview the NBA Finals. Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow from Cary, North Carolina on site from TST. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello beautiful people. You are looking at live action for the soccer tournament that started this morning on this glorious Cary, North Carolina Wednesday. This program starts now. Concave FC has made its debut this morning against the Reggae Rovers in this beautiful city of Cary, North Carolina. Now listen, there is a chance that I'm feeling some pulls in the hamstrings, the groins, the hip flexors, and I believe I even strained an Achilles out there this morning as our team lost in devastating fashion 4-1. Although I maybe saw the net a little bit, I didn't touch the ball. Actually had to chase a guy down and almost puked in the middle of my debut.
Starting point is 00:00:44 But the Concava SC team will figure it out and they will get things done before I actually had to chase a guy down and almost puked in the middle of my debut. But the Concava SC team will figure it out, and they will get things done before our next game this evening at 7 p.m. against Natty SC. Until then, we'll be doing a show live here from a stage that we set up right next to one of the showcase fields. And I'm not alone here. No, no, I have uh incredible group with me the toxic table is here at boston corner and that tie schnick now shoot out there Foxy. South Florida! USA! USA! USA! USA! There is a...
Starting point is 00:01:34 One more time. Take the tractor another round! I don't know if you're able to hear that. I don't know if you're able to hear that through the TV or through the internet. I didn't see it but the biggest fucking plane ever that i don't know if you're able to hear that uh through the tv or through the internet i didn't see it but the biggest plane ever just flew over seemingly that is what just happened here in cary north carolina obviously a lot of military here in north carolina which we appreciate the hell out of and also a crowd that is gathered sitting on a hill
Starting point is 00:01:59 you guys look awesome thank you thank you for coming out we did not expect anybody to here, so we do not have a camera shooting that way. We certainly have to fix that. In the Hawk's Nest, ladies and gentlemen, a man who's a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, a Ryder Cup champion, and a guy who was supposed to play soccer there. A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk. A.J. Hawk.
Starting point is 00:02:21 It's nice up here, man. I like this Hawk's Nest. It's usually a tone situation, but I'll take it. That will be Tone's situation, but Tone is back in Indianapolis, Indiana, just in case we're not able to get live from this particular spot in beautiful Cary, North Carolina. Now, there was a little bit of a situation yesterday where I took a shot at a guy who works here. Sure. In Cary, North Carolina. Mr. Kratz.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Yep. Now, I believe there was a potential miscommunication, turns out. And Kratz is a good guy. Kratz is a good guy. The maintenance team here has been fantastic. The Cary, North Carolina people, but the city that are in this, and also the TST people who have tried to make this as efficient as possible has helped us out immensely.
Starting point is 00:02:58 We are lucky to be here, pumped to be here, thankful to be here. And Cary, North Carolina, they got, like, putting greens for fields at this place. It is maybe the most gorgeous sports complex I've been to. We're lucky to be here in Cary, North Carolina. They got putting greens for fields at this point. It is maybe the most gorgeous sports complex I've been to. We're lucky to be here, thankful to be here. It's not just us, though. There is a premier...
Starting point is 00:03:16 There is a league right below the Premier League in England. Team owner here whose team is represented in TST fighting for a million dollar prize. He actually played this morning, almost scored a goal. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Almost scored a goal. Had a save by a goalie. His team lost 7-2, but he showed up in a big way. Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. Wall. Yeah. Can everybody hear me?
Starting point is 00:03:49 Alright, there we go I'm thrown off by AJ in the DJ booth up in the corner here Spinning ones and twos Let's not talk about what AJ did 7-3, first of all, 7-3 We got three goals, more than you guys scored But I have to echo your sentiments North Carolina is a beautiful place beautiful beautiful place these fields are impeccable a lot of fields too so touche to everybody here in carry north
Starting point is 00:04:15 carolina phenomenal setup here could you imagine if the nfl owners were able to put this type of grass and could you imagine it must be so expensive if these guys are doing it here because there's a hundred fields of beautiful grass it actually made me feel younger feel faster now i grew up playing soccer so i had a little bit of nostalgia when i was on the field i was running at one point i'm like oh shit yeah still got it and then a jamaican guy actually put his shoulder through my chest into my jaw and i was like oh i didn't know we were still i didn't know we did that i completely forgot that we did that in this particular sport. You didn't have any of that because you didn't grow up playing soccer?
Starting point is 00:04:47 I grew up in a similar but different atmosphere with youth hockey. So, like, tournaments, like, this whole vibe that we've had with our squad. I mean, we have a team hotel. We did a little activity last night, a little golf simulator and dinner to get us together. And then today, you know, you're arriving and warming up with your squad. Like, I feel like I'm on a fifth grade youth football team right now. It's fun. We're at a tournament. It's cool.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Legitimately exactly how I feel. Got a chance to hang out with the boys this morning. Met them last night. We got in late because there was a holding pattern. I guess North Carolina is beautiful. They're able to have this type of grass. I think because it does rain. When it rains, it comes.
Starting point is 00:05:26 We're just circling the city for an hour and 15 minutes missed the training session last night with the boys but everybody on our team has that feeling i feel so bad for you in that in that tiny little plane that you were on you know i mean i know you fly around in that tiny little thing or back in coach you know i know i'm sure it's tough in coach when you're just circling for an hour all right right, before we get to the— Did your caviar get warm? Okay. Actually, the snackies weren't great.
Starting point is 00:05:50 No. Too many veggie straws. To be clear, that wasn't part of the conversation. It was. These snacks kind of stink. We had veggie straws, though. Yeah, too many of them, though. You want some veggie?
Starting point is 00:05:59 I've been introduced to veggie straws with my son. Big fan of them. Oh, my daughter loves the veggie straws. Big fan of veggie straws. Got those sons in hand. Oh, yeah. Don't say that word. Don't you say that word.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Don't do this. There's already enough people doing it. Don't you say that word. Easy. Okay, especially in Cary, North Carolina. This place is gorgeous. Before we get to the big news in the NBA, which is it's corrupt. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I don't know if you know this. Oh, no. I mean, I've been playing soccer all morning. What happened? Me too. Me too. Literally just came through. Conman, I've been playing soccer all morning. What happened? Me too. Literally, just came through. Conman, what's happening
Starting point is 00:06:28 in the NBA? Yeah, so Jonte Porter allegedly is now being accused by federal prosecutors that he was, in fact, throwing games on purpose because he had so much gambling debt with his co-contributors that they were basically like, hey, gonna need you to go out and miss 18 threes tonight, and then we will all
Starting point is 00:06:43 make $100,000. So that's what they're saying now. And then there's also a Rico report that he sent a text on April 4th, like, hey, this may be a Rico thing. That's kind of very new. Don't know much about that. But allegedly now, yes, he is being accused of on purpose. Can't have that in sports. Sports gambling, obviously, is going to be very prevalent in sports for a long time
Starting point is 00:07:04 because there's a lot of money in it. And nobody's winning. The gambling companies are definitely winning. Just like the casinos have those big-ass balls. They are going to win. So it's going to be involved in sports, especially as it continues to get more regulated and legalized and everything like that. The biggest nightmare of every human is your cooking games. You can't be cooking.
Starting point is 00:07:22 And with the NBA, they already have Tim Donahue. Imagine if one of your guys was out here trying to miss. That's what John T. Porter was doing, allegedly. And they pulled up a clip from him back in the day. He's trying to miss this three, clearly. He banks it home.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Okay, so he's... Let me throw this son of a bitch through the backboard. Oh, and he goes in. He goes in. I'm pissed about it. And allegedly, they show him, and he...
Starting point is 00:07:43 What the... Okay. What is this? Well, he's about to get his arms broke. Yeah, crazy show him and he... What the... Okay. What is this? Well, he's about to get his arms broke. Yeah, crazy. That's crazy. That's old school. That's not what I think would still be happening.
Starting point is 00:07:51 But obviously this is going to get pushed into the spotlight in a big, big way. Because we've seen this type of thing in the past in movies as well. Yeah, I can't love it. But, I mean, the reality is we have a Paul Crew in the NBA. Okay? Adam Sandler. Everybody knows. Longest yard. Former Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback,
Starting point is 00:08:06 shaving points, goes to federal prison in Texas. And they darn near shot him in the head later on in the movie when he was playing. So, I mean, it's not good for the NBA. It's not good for sports as a whole. Never thought I'd see the day we'd have another Paul Crew in professional sports. But here we are. And the reality is there's no escaping it. That's not like Ryan McGee there, obviously North Carolina legend.
Starting point is 00:08:28 It's tough not to when you get down here. You kind of just start to see. See the hills. Exactly. You're driving around, you see Bojangles. You see Bojangles on every corner. It's hard not to kind of just pay homage to McGee. So I may kind of slip in and out of this all day today.
Starting point is 00:08:41 We'll see. I'm having a great time in North Carolina. Can we break down the logistics of that? So, obviously, there's got to be bets on him missing certain amounts of points or scoring under certain amounts of points. It was threes. It was threes made was a big one. Would that not be the single most obvious thing if all of a sudden a bunch of
Starting point is 00:08:58 money is coming in on this guy and then he's missing the shots? I mean, like, I feel like there's got to be. We're going to do it. I don't want to just update you on this story as you're talking because you're making great points. It actually came out that DraftKings reported like an abnormality with one of the bets because it was the biggest winner of any bet that they had for the entire week.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And it was like under one and a half threes or something like that. And then there was a game where he went in there and then he came out early, left the game early, didn't even play, and I think his over-under was like fourrees or something like that. And then there was a game where he went in there and then he came out early, left the game early, didn't even play, and I think his overrunner was like four points or something. So he got sick or something and couldn't play. I feel like if you're going to do it,
Starting point is 00:09:34 man, let's sit down and think about it. I feel like you could come up with a better plan. What would your plan be? I don't know, but it wouldn't be to put down $50,000 on me to shoot less than five threes, and then all of a sudden I go out there, I chuck up bricks. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Oh, wow. We've never had $1,000 on J.J. Watt to miss a sack before, and wow, $1,000 came in this morning, and he just whiffed. Oh, $1,000. Crazy. It was $40,000. Oh, I forgot it's the NBA. They make a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:10:02 A lot of money. A lot of money. Who does he owe money to? To DraftKings or an old school bookie? Is that who he owes money to? And so federal prosecutors found it first, not the NBA? Who's punching the microphone? That was me. That was bad.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Bad radio. Sorry. Bad TV. We'll handle the bad TV, JJ. So did the NBA know about it? Or who knew about it first? The prosecutors or the NBA? DraftKings was the first report That whole thing Pat just said About how the biggest prop out of the night Out of nowhere was Jonte Porter
Starting point is 00:10:34 Under like four and a half points Or five points or whatever And then from there it kind of trickled on But I think it did start with DraftKings But he's not punching his own DraftKings ticket No, it was through a guy That's how you get caught up Because you had a third party in there.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Yeah, those are the co-contributors that were telling him, hey, you need to do this because you are down a shit ton of money. That was probably an offside book like Shohei Ohtani. This fascinates me. This is really fascinating. Yeah, it's crazy because literally every building you walk into as a sport, I don't know what you guys have in the Burnley stable here, because everybody's got a stable pretty much in the uh the uh the players village sure that's what it's called
Starting point is 00:11:09 everybody has a stable we have a picture of pete rose right up there when everybody walks in and it says don't be pete rose of the the soccer tournament a million bucks somebody can get a little numbsy oh yeah you know potentially doing some things but anytime this happens people bring up great cincinnati red p, AJ. And I know that breaks your heart, obviously, because you love the way that guy could swing a bat. But there's a difference between betting like boxers betting
Starting point is 00:11:34 on themselves. Yep. That's fine. I think that's completely fine. For sure. Double the purse. It's one-on-one. You're doubling the purse here. You're in a great... You do what you gotta do. But whenever team stuff gets involved, it always gets heightened, but Pete Rose is pumped that Jonte's doing this. Pete Rose is like,
Starting point is 00:11:50 I didn't do that. Remember Pete had the comment, what, I just need an interpreter when the whole show continues to be thrust into the spotlight again and again throughout this whole process. Just let him in the hall. What are we doing? Oh, Pete, yeah, let Pete in the hall. Holy shit, what a goal at the soccer
Starting point is 00:12:06 tournament. Keepers pissed. To be clear, we have no idea who scored on what team or how they did it, but it is electrifying that they did what they did. Absolutely. Is it not, Todd? Yeah, I mean, 2-2. 13 minutes left. I believe one of these teams is Sergio Aguero.
Starting point is 00:12:23 There's a lot of small humans on that field. JJ, how'd you feel about that? Because my team's big. Have you seen my team? Yeah, your team is huge. My team is very big. And I don't know if that's good or bad.
Starting point is 00:12:34 The result's not great because I'm also large. You gave up seven points. I know, I know. I'm saying, geez, calm down. Well, you said it earlier. Now you're running your mouth. You don't think Conque Fasci's going to figure it out? Tony Miola's giving a fucking speech right now.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I hope so. I've been watching film of Rovers. I've asked you guys for tips on what happened. And you were like, I don't know. They scored the first goal. Or it was, where's Gumpy? Gumpy was like, they scored the first goal and it got away from us. Like, that doesn't help me tonight.
Starting point is 00:12:58 They countered us. Obviously, I'm not sure. They countered us. Why'd you guys lose so much? They countered as well. Counter attack. They countered. They got the plate.
Starting point is 00:13:05 They know where to go. I was watching their team, and it was like a synchronized swimming routine as they were all kind of finding their spot. In our team, we had five guys on the field. Supposed to have six. We had five guys on the team multiple times. Wait, what? What happened?
Starting point is 00:13:16 We had seven guys on the field one time. Yellow card. Somebody got a damn yellow card. I'm telling you, it was chaos. JJ. It was chaos. Tony Miola's got it figured. He does. Tony Miola was worried about the World Series, College World Series, that Oklahoma State chaos. JJ. It was chaos. Tony Miola's got to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:13:25 He does. Tony Miola was worried about the World Series, College World Series, that Oklahoma State team, his boy plays on. His boy plays on the Oklahoma State baseball team. They just lost to Florida. No, they didn't make it. Why do you keep talking shit to Tony Miola? I didn't know. You just said his boy's playing in the College World Series.
Starting point is 00:13:41 I said Omaha. I literally said Omaha. Might as well call me Peyton Manning. I get it, guys. That's pretty good. J.J., you almost scored today, right? I did. We have the footage.
Starting point is 00:13:52 We have the footage. So close. Roll it. Roll it. You can talk over it. Do you think you had it? Honestly, it'd feel great to score out here. I could not tell you how excited I was at this moment.
Starting point is 00:14:01 All right, which one are you, J.J.? I'm the big one. Oh, okay. I'm the one that looks nothing like everybody else. A sitter my god oh no great save that's my first time seeing that i did not get to see that because i was playing as well and then all the videos were getting uploaded late that's a real opportunity yes is that foot to post no yeah yeah he's unbelievable safe he stuck his foot out the last second i mean my eyes did you touch it did you lead yourself or was that no i had it was one there, you touched that?
Starting point is 00:14:26 Oh, did I? I don't know. I blacked out. Cherry pick. I got so excited. It's cherry picking. Four goals. No, that's actually part of the plan. I know. That's what I mean. There's no offsides. Yeah, there's no offsides. You can't hang out in the box, which is some sort of three-second rule. You can't hang out in the box? You can't be in there for longer than, I don't know what the second is.
Starting point is 00:14:41 No way. But the regular refs were cheating and doing longer. I don't think that's a rule. It is. It is. Because Coach Gump was livid. Coach Gump and Coach Miola got into a full fight with the refs. Yeah. I don't think that's a rule.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I was hanging out in the box. Right. That's because you're JJ. Here's Gumpy and Coach Miola saying, hey, what are you talking about, boy? I mean, you say it's a delay, and then that guy is not in there. Oh, you guys were actually getting into it. Oh, yeah. Trying to win.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Any time. Any time there is a ref, they're going to hear from me. Yeah. Like normally. You know, good or bad. Actually, talk to the refs that called our game earlier as they walked out here. And I said, I think you boys did okay. Yeah. I think you boys handled your shelf well out there.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Nobody's going to live off a missed goal more than me. I will play that goal for years to come. Good run. Just to prove that I almost could play soccer. It was a great play. Thank you. I also wiped out the keeper at one point. I don't know if we have footage of that, but we went up for a header, each of us.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And the guy stood his own. I respect it. Let's get a little bit more information on this NBAba scandal that is rocking the entire sports world hell yeah ladies and gentlemen senior insider for the nba at the athletic the stadium fandle tv and he's a wildly handsome individual shams rania can you hear me yeah can you hear me did you, can you hear me? Did you hear the pop? People just made noise for you, Shams. You got a little pop.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. Give me the love. Give me the love. Are you guys at a soccer? This is the TBT for soccer? Is that where you guys are at?
Starting point is 00:16:15 That is the exact thing what it is. Yeah, TBT started the basketball tournament where they put up a million for teams that were put together. And then the soccer dudes from New York saw it and they presented a pitch basically saying soccer would be able to do this great. Teamed up with the TBT. So now they have this every year. This one is, it's a festival dude. It is huge, Shams. It really is.
Starting point is 00:16:36 I'm seeing JJ up there. I think I might have to go with JJ. Well, you didn't see the results from this morning. Shams, shut up. I was about to say you are say I was about to agree with Pat That you're a pretty good looking human being I'll give you that Super handsome
Starting point is 00:16:49 He always has the perfect camera angle The lighting is phenomenal wherever you are We've come a long way You remember I was in the cave four years ago Yeah but the angle was always good Spaceship Alright Choms. Let's talk about...
Starting point is 00:17:06 Okay, shout out to your mom's kitchen and lunch. As we know, you have a deep history with all that. Let's talk about the NBA. You guys are trying to ruin sports. Holy shit! Another goal for a team! That was from deep. That was from deep.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Sorry, Choms. Magic just happened. Electricity just happened. A goal was scored. And in this TST, a lot more goals get scored than in actual soccer, which is good. Shams, the NBA is trying to ruin the sports world right now. We got players just gambling on themselves, getting into debt, almost losing arms.
Starting point is 00:17:34 What the hell is going on with Jonte Porter and the entire situation there? And what is Adam Silver saying to the rest of the league? I assume there is some sort of mandatory meetings happening right now for everybody. There's always mandatory meetings when it comes to this issue, when it comes to sports betting, when you're a player. I mean, you're just not allowed to bet on NBA games, WNBA games, G League games, if you're an NBA player or a G League player or a WNBA player. And to me, the messaging that Adam Silver got across when Jonte Porter got got suspended for life he got banned for life we talked about this a while ago
Starting point is 00:18:08 and that was the message the only message that really truly need to be delivered where you get caught if you're part of these trends transgressions that is the that is the law that is that is what's gonna happen and I think that was the strongest penalty we've seen across pro sports in the NFL. I know guys get suspended, specifically, what, 12 games, 14 games? And a lot of them get their suspensions reduced, six games, four games. So it's a little bit less strict, for sure, in the NFL, where you saw Adam Silver come out and right within a few weeks of that investigation, giving out a lifetime ban to Jonte Porter. So that's the only message I saw what came out, I believe, in the DOJ, in the federal investigations about a potential person.
Starting point is 00:18:55 That was essentially an intermediary for Jonte Porter in the scandal, getting arrested. I think it was with $80,000 in checks trying to flee. Oh yeah, he was trying to get the hell out of the country. He was about to get arrested. It's straight out of a movie. Maybe there will be a movie about this one day. I mean, there probably should be. But we haven't seen a suspension the way that
Starting point is 00:19:17 we saw it with John T. Porter. They can have as many meetings as they want. The NVPA can have as many meetings as they want with the players. And obviously this issue being a heightened one across because of sports gaming, but the lifetime ban was all the message that... Yeah, it can't ruin sports,
Starting point is 00:19:34 Shams. Let's tighten up. We can't have it. We can't have guys missing three-point shots on purpose so that somebody else can win a bunch of money because then people are going to think immediately, oh, they're not just missing three-point shots. It's everything. Everything that's going on is all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:19:49 a work. People are going to start thinking it's a full-on work. That can't happen. They already had to battle that Tim Donahue shit. That was big. Everybody just immediately was like, that's what it is. And then all the other refs that are good refs are like, no, no, no, it's not. And the NBA has fought that, fought that, fought that, fought that, fought that, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Oh, yeah. They just signed a $78 billion. Another goal has been scored for the same team that has scored all the goals before. They just signed a $78 billion deal, licensing deal with ESPN, Amazon, and NBC. Goodbye, Turner. We got one more year inside the NBA. Charles Barkley and the boys got to figure that whole thing out. But it's like, this is a credibility issue potentially at some point for all sports, and obviously in this case, Turner. We got one more year inside the NBA. Charles Barkley and the boys got to figure that whole thing out. But it's like, this is a credibility issue potentially at some point for all sports.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And obviously, in this case, NBA. Well, integrity has been the biggest thing. That was in the statement that Adam Silver made clear when they suspended Jonte Porter for life. But, I mean, think about in the NFL. Calvin Ridley was suspended a season, I think. So there's a stark difference when you think about how the NBA and what they handed out in that situation compared to what we've seen in the NFL. But, yeah, I mean, there's a no-tolerance policy.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Adam Silver has made that clear. There's a clear separation. When you're an NBA player, WN player, GLE player, you're not betting on those games. It's literally not allowed. Yeah, all athletes know that. If you get caught, you're done. All athletes know that. It's legitimate. Like, you're done. All athletes know that. It's legitimate.
Starting point is 00:21:05 You're kind of taught that at the very beginning. So this dude probably has a massive gambling addiction. For sure. That is certainly part of the problem, which I hope he gets help, but also, buddy, come on. You would have been great whenever you retired. You would have learned even more. How about the baseball player? Guy goes 0 for 25 on bets on teams
Starting point is 00:21:22 that he was a part of. That was yesterday. That was yesterday. That was yesterday's news, and now it's like federal prosecutors say this guy was, yep, certainly trying to miss threes. $80,000 in checks, fleeing to Australia? That's straight out of a movie, Pat. We need a movie.
Starting point is 00:21:37 You might have to... No, no, no, no. I am not a movie maker. I'm sure somebody would do a great job. Probably this guy. JJ Watt has a question for you, Shams, who you were trying to suck up to earlier today. Shams. What's up, JJ? That's so cute, Shams. We get it.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Okay, Shams. Let him ask the question, Shams. We've been here at a soccer tournament, so obviously we're not completely in the know. I do follow up on my fellow JJs. Where do we stand? JJ Redick, Lakers. What's the deal? Yeah, I had a story
Starting point is 00:22:10 yesterday in The Athletic. I reported, and you know what's crazy? I actually said this I think on May 24th. I said this a week and a half ago on this show actually, that JJ Redick was a frontrunner for the Lakers head coaching job. Obviously the biggest job when you think about pro sports,
Starting point is 00:22:27 definitely with the Lakers. One of the top jobs in pro sports, one of the highest-profile jobs in pro sports, especially in the NBA. But the Lakers have been going through their coaching search. It's really been focused over the last couple weeks on J.J. Redick and James Borrego, for what I'm told. But I reported yesterday in The Athletic,
Starting point is 00:22:44 the Lakers have been zeroing in on J.J. Redick as a frontrunner for the job, and the belief around the NBA has been, at least in the last few days and last week, that any announcement, anything will come after the finals. He's obviously a color commentator for the NBA
Starting point is 00:22:59 finals, but he was the first coach to meet face-to-face with the Lakers. they've had other meetings as well james brago has been the other person that that has met with them brago person multiple times pelicans associated coach someone that anthony davis for his part uh is fond of has a report a rapport with and they kind of overlapped in new orleans over a decade ago and i think james brago has been a part of this search and is still, I think, going to be a part of this search.
Starting point is 00:23:27 But from what I'm told, what I've reported, what I said a week and a half ago, this time I just put it in print. But J.J. Redick has emerged himself as the frontrunner for this job. Imagine if he got the job, kept the podcast going. Coach Player Podcast. Whoa, okay. With LeBron? That would be wild. Do you think it was an entire year-long interview? That's why they
Starting point is 00:23:50 did that podcast? The podcast was the interview. It was like some inception. Yeah, but they're saying LeBron has no say in anything. It's like, okay, yeah, he actually said, JJ, what are you running in this particular... What are you... Pat, I will say the Lakers have been really infatuated with JJ Redick. They viewick. Because of the podcast?
Starting point is 00:24:07 When you're hiring him, that might have played a part. No shit! To say you're not evaluating his IQ and how he speaks. Listen, J.J. does a great job. Just following his career from a media perspective, obviously he has a lot of respect for what he's built and what he's done. But when you see someone speak the way he does, has the relationship with the players, you're going to take notes.
Starting point is 00:24:31 And this is not the only job J.J. Redick has interviewed for, has been in play for. He interviewed for the Charlotte Hornets job before they went and hired Charles Lee. And he was a prominent part of that coaching search as well. And he's been making it clear over the last year that he wants to coach and he wants to coach bad. He's said it publicly, privately as well.
Starting point is 00:24:50 For J.J. Redick, you think about this Lakers job, it's high profile. You have LeBron James, you have Anthony Davis, and you have a supporting cast that's in flux. We don't know who's going to be back, what the group is exactly going to look like. So exactly when he takes over, how involved he's going to be,
Starting point is 00:25:05 if he does get the job, that's going to be very interesting to see too. Because GameStop at the NBA Finals, I think it's June 23rd. So there's a way away. We've got time here. Yeah, that thing doesn't start for a while either. I mean, it's been a couple of long-ass days. Hiring a coach the week of the NBA draft or the week of PHC, there's going to be a lot in the Lakers' offices coming up over the next few weeks.
Starting point is 00:25:25 Hey, that was good journalism, J.J. That was a good question. Look what we got. We got a full thing. You know, J.J. Redick went to Duke. I haven't seen a single person wearing any Duke stuff around here. They hate him. So people wonder, like, oh, Duke people are hated nationally. It's like, no, they're hated locally, too.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I think they are hated locally. I've seen a lot of Colts stuff, which does look a little Duke-like when you look at it. Yeah, I do appreciate the Colts fans that are here. But I've seen, they said this is NC State country, brother. Oh, yeah. That's what they said. The legend Lou Holtz, Liv, and Perry with the Colts here. They're doing Wolfpack.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Gabe Noren, head coach of the Wolfpack, my D coordinator in college. Tony Gibson, defensive coordinator for the Wolfpack. Guy who recruited me to West Virginia. I mean, it's like a meeting of the powers. Look at that. They've been there a long time, too. They've got their culture set in. It's like, why not? Why not NC State? Cotton Man's got a question for you, Sean, as we get distracted in beautiful You ever been to Cary, North Carolina, Sean?
Starting point is 00:26:18 I've never been there. I've been to Charlotte. I've been to Charlotte. You know Bojangles? I can't say I've been there. Chapel Hill? You don't know Bojangles? I've never been to Charlotte. You know Bojangles? Chapel Hill? You don't know Bojangles? I've never been to Chapel Hill. That's on my bucket list. I've never been to Durham either.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Cary, North Carolina has the greatest grass that I've ever seen in my entire life. Feels like you're running on a foam pad out there. It is beautiful. Go ahead, Con, man. Yeah, Shams, I have to ask you. Team USA beat some other shitty country at basketball by 55 points. No, 98. 98 points.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Oh, yeah, they only scored 58 points. They won by 90-plus points. 98 points, I think. I think it was 156 to 54. Or, no, the other way. 154 to 56. Yeah, Belize. USA, we beat Belize by 98, I think.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Yeah. Was it three on three? No. No, it was real basketball, Shams. Shut up, Shams. USA. We beat Belize by 98, I think. Yeah. Was it three on three? No, it was real basketball, Sean. Shut up, Sean. It was gold medal basketball. Clearly you don't know shit about it. Oh, U18. Yeah, the U18 team.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Is this kid just the next Edie at Purdue? And is the future bright? Because it does seem as though the NBA draft is possibly the worst group or crop of hyped-up athletes that we've had in the NBA in quite some time. Case. I mean, Team USA is always, you know, the way that they're developing the players, U16, U17, U18. I'm not surprised to see this. And BC, this summer, the team that we're going to see at the Olympics, representing the 2024 Paris Olympics,
Starting point is 00:27:46 we've been talking about it for months now. It's a star-studded group. LeBron James, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Anthony Edwards. Tyrese. I mean, it's Tyrese Halliburton. Shout out, Indiana. Shout out. Anthony Davis, Bam Adebayo.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Luka Garza. This group. How does that team lose? I don't understand. Our U18s won by 96. Kevin Durant has said it publicly. They're trying to win like this. What we just saw there, win by 90 points, that's what they're trying to do at the Olympics this summer.
Starting point is 00:28:19 So I'm not surprised by this. I wonder if it's some foreshadowing for what this team is going to say. The Olympic team is going to try to win. What an ass beating. Awesome. Could you imagine going back to Belize and just dribbling a basketball? Can't do it. Are you allowed back?
Starting point is 00:28:31 Can't do it. I don't know. I might quit. I might quit upon Belize at that point. You have to have a mercy rule at that point. They scored 54, so they did understand the game. They knew ball and who. How to get points.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Normally in those high school games or lower level college games when a team wins by 100, it's like, that team doesn't actually know the sport. They're just rolling it out there to do their thing. Once again, not the winning team's fault. At all. Never is. But this, they scored 54. I didn't expect
Starting point is 00:29:02 that. That's like a little bit of a bucket getter somewhere over there. Yeah, a little bit of a bucket getter somewhere over there. Yeah, a little bit of a high-octane offense. And then, obviously, when we got this string bean that's going to Purdue, just, you know, eating glass. He's the next Edie, I heard. He's going to be gnawing on the Iowa Hawkeyes. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I doubt it. I mean, he's going to have to probably gain about 85 to 100 pounds before he really wants to get ready for that physical Big Ten basketball. But, hey, we got another guy. The USA's got another guy. So I'm excited for it. But let basketball. But, hey, we got another guy. The USA's got another guy. So I'm excited for it. But let's pump the brakes on, hey, this guy. He's about to run to Big Ten, they're saying.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yeah, okay, okay. AJ has a question for you, Sean. Hey, Sean, who is actually our competition this year in the Olympics? Do we have any team that can't compete? And how are we going to massage the egos of everybody when it comes to playing time and starting and all that? I know that's always a thing when it comes to these so-called dream teams. Yeah, two teams right off the top of my head are France. I think Spain you can never count out.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Spain is just always rock solid, always has guys, has veterans. But France is one that I'm very interested in seeing. You have Nick Batum. You have Rudy Gobert. You have Victor Wemba and Yama. Victor Wemba and Yama being on that Olympic team. That team, to me, has some potential to be scary.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Canada as well. Don't sleep on Canada. Oh, Canada. Don't sleep on them. Shea Gills Alexander, Jamal Murray potentially, Andrew Wiggins potentially. They've got some bodies there in Canada. We saw what Shea Gills Alexander did this season. Jamal Murray, to me,
Starting point is 00:30:28 he's never been an all-star, never been an all-NBA player, but there's not a better player when the lights are on bright. He's one of the best ones when it comes to playoff time, when it comes to meaningful moments. I'm very curious about that Canadian national team,
Starting point is 00:30:43 along with France. I think those two are the ones I got my eye on. Spain is always solid. And as far as egos, AJ, you're definitely right. Because Anthony Edwards, I said this, I've said this already, but Anthony Edwards is not going to the USA basketball team just to sit on the bench or to be the sixth man. He's going to USA training camp to win a starting spot and be a starter on that national team.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I can't wait to see if Anthony Edwards is able to be our starter. We would like him to represent the United States of America out there. We better win by 90 now that I know it's possible in modern day, even if a team scores 54. Choms, while you were talking, you have no idea. There's a little bit of a to-do on here. I keep getting excited that they're chanting for me and cheering for me. No, it was a fight.
Starting point is 00:31:25 These goals. It was a fight. These goals that are being scored, fights, I don't know what's going on. Shams, one guy went down. He was in a heap of pain. I mean, you never know
Starting point is 00:31:34 what's real at these things. Oh, yeah. It feels better. It's really hard. We don't cheer for injuries now. We never would, but there was a full-on... Bench is almost cleared
Starting point is 00:31:42 just a few moments ago. We almost had some real good TV. Yeah, I just want to know, how come we didn't get, we got a yellow card when we had seven on the field. These guys had ten guys on the field ready to fight each other. Why are we, we get attacked here? Kind of just let them do whatever the hell they want. It has to be matched.
Starting point is 00:31:55 It seems like the other team didn't want to fight like you guys did. Okay. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, so it was a little bit of a, anyway. What's next for you, Shams? What news should we know about? Well, I'm going to be in Boston for the NBA Finals. That's next.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Tomorrow? Is that tomorrow night? Yeah, tomorrow, game one. Game one is tomorrow night. Game two is Sunday. Then the series goes to Dallas. I'm excited for the finals. I think Boston has been the primitive favorite.
Starting point is 00:32:20 They're the ones who have the championship robust expectations right now. They know. Al Horford said it after they swept Indiana. The players know it, whether they want to say publicly or whether they want to know it privately. This is a championship robust season for the Celtics. They've been primed. They've been prepped. They've been getting ready.
Starting point is 00:32:34 It really feels like it's their time. The only problem is you have Dallas that's in their way. You have Luka Doncic, who's arguably the best player in the league. You have Kyrie Irving, who is finally playing at that place that we saw him in Cleveland, where he's comfortable, he's happy, he's healthy. He's in it. Like, this team, the camaraderie, the chemistry that this Mavericks team has, I think you can make a case that they're the closest team going in the league right now.
Starting point is 00:33:01 And it's no secret that the relationship between Kyrie Irving and Luka Doncic has played a big part in that. They've become like brothers. Shout out Kyrie Irving. I reported it yesterday. His first signature athlete for his anti-shoe deal is his dad, Dredrick Irving. Pretty cool story. First player in pro sports. What's the name of it?
Starting point is 00:33:19 He started a company? Anta is a Chinese sportswear company. Whoa. Mostly shoes. Clay Thompson is a player that they endorse as well. Are all the shoes red? No.
Starting point is 00:33:34 They've got a bunch of different colors. Purple, yellow, blue. Okay. They're going to be great shoes, I assume. His dad's going to hoop at them? The Dredrick Irving's ones will hit Foot Locker stores in September. So shout out to his dad's beginning of signature. Yeah, I'm buying those.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I don't know where they're made, but a lot of other stuff is too, and I'm going to put them on. Still using my iPhone. And I'm probably going to have – there's a lot of things. I mean, there's a scarf falling off the front of the desk. Yeah, that gaffer's tape, we kind of knew it wasn't going to hold. Yeah, I would be against both of them if we're having a conversation we just had. Yo, BC, who do you have?
Starting point is 00:34:09 Who do you have in the finals, Boston? Okay. BC? Come on, BC. Who do you got? All right, Shams. We asked you the question, Shams. Also, it should be interesting, Shams, because a little bit of drama surrounding you guys.
Starting point is 00:34:21 I believe it was your co-host, Chandler Parsons, basically said, like, hey, Chris Saps, Porzingis and Luka Doncic do not like each other. Luka Doncic came out and said like, that's bullshit. I've talked to him twice in my life. So is it kind of awkward on set right now? Is that kind of changing how you guys are going to cover the finals? Yeah, and did you retweet that when Chandler
Starting point is 00:34:38 Parsons was like, yeah, this is a matter of fact? And did you jump in? Absolutely. No issues on either side. Luka Doncic can obviously say whatever he wants to say, can respond exactly how he wants to respond. Chandler Parsons obviously is entitled to his own thoughts and his own reporting. He's truth.
Starting point is 00:34:57 He's truth. Really deep ties to Dallas, I will say. But on the running back sets, there is not any tension there. We know it's a fun and loose environment. Sure. Sounds like there's tension. I think, you know, the one thing is Luka Doncic and Chris Asprozingas have been very vocal publicly, at least Chris Asprozingas has, that it just did not work out from a fit perspective.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And from a basketball perspective, clearly it didn't work. I think Chris Asprozingas even said it yesterday. It just didn't work when he was there. And that's not to say that Luka Doncic had anything personally. Like, he genuinely still doesn't like the guy. Because I'm sure now they haven't been teammates in years now. Hey, Dappy, char her up. I'm sure they're cool now.
Starting point is 00:35:41 Yeah, obviously. We appreciate you, Sean. He's doing all the journalism that we can't do. Next time, you're going to have to get down here to Cary, North Carolina. Enjoy this with us. I'm down. Honestly, we should just play. Why don't we do our own tournament?
Starting point is 00:35:55 We are playing soccer. At the Thunderdome. We should do a tournament. A three-on-three tournament at the Thunderdome. Oh, you're right. Are you good? Sean, you play basketball? Sean, are you good? Maybe. Shams, you play basketball? Shams can shoot a little bit. Are you good, Shams?
Starting point is 00:36:07 He's got a jumper. We're in the studio putting up some J's. I had a couple air balls. Everybody has air balls. If you live in a paint, you're going to get dunked on every once in a while. Move the sticks still has the worst shot of all time, so don't worry about it. All right, we appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Shams Roy.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Hey, Shams. That was good journalism by us. I feel like we really got things accomplished. What did we learn? Yeah, Adam Silver wasn't happy with that Jaunte guy. No, he was so mad. $80,000 in checks. It's different than Ridley, though.
Starting point is 00:36:35 It really is. Ridley wasn't betting on, he wasn't throwing games. And he was IR. Yeah. And he wasn't betting against his own team or throwing games that would affect the rest of his team. I did see him kind of take a shot at the NFL in his answer. He's like, in the NBA, we don't mess around. It's not apples to apples.
Starting point is 00:36:48 He did take that shot. You're right. But I agree. Like, if you're betting on your team to win, I mean, you're not going to. Obviously, you can't do any of it. But it's very different if someone is throwing a game versus betting on some other team or your team to win. JJ, I don't know if we got a chance to chat with you about this. So, Isaiah, was it Isaiah for the Colts?
Starting point is 00:37:07 Yeah, Isaiah Rogers. Yeah, Isaiah Rogers was betting on the Colts while playing for the Colts. Not IR, on the team, betting on the Colts. He gets a year's suspension, kicked off the Colts. Like explosive for us. Good player. Very bummed out about it. And as soon as he got brought up, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:37:22 we need to know if he's betting on the Colts or against the Colts. Yeah. Like, I think there's a chance that, like, you know, some of these people are like, this son of a bitch bet on his own team. And it's like, for it or against it? That's another piece of information that I think should and deserves to kind of get brought up. Yeah, you can't bet, period. I get it. You should be apprenticed for all of it.
Starting point is 00:37:43 But if you're betting on your own team, what are you going to do? Run harder? Like, tackle more? Yeah, you can't bet, period. I get it. You should be apprenticed for all of it. But if you're betting on your own team, what are you going to do? Run harder? Like tackle more? Yeah, no shit. That's what you're trying to do the whole time. Yeah, if you're betting against team, we should know that. Yes. Now, speaking of teams, do you want to get in here?
Starting point is 00:37:55 I do. I'm hot. I'm hot. Really warm. Yeah. That was also kind of the Pete Rose gripe. It was like, hey, you won't let me get in, but I wasn't betting on the Reds to win because they were so good.
Starting point is 00:38:08 This could get bad. I mean, I'm not trying to put the shorts like I'm going to wear something home. You've got people on both sides. This is a disaster. Nobody needs to see what's going on here. You want my shorts? He's got Patriots shorts. Yeah, you want mine?
Starting point is 00:38:23 Don't tip over. Easy, easy. Okay, I can't fit in this. Kneel down. There you go. Keep going, keep going. I cannot go lower, Connor. This is it. Pull, pull, pull.
Starting point is 00:38:36 It feels fantastic. I mean, I'm sitting like a punk here. You got a little toe rest? There you go. See, you can go lower. I can't get in. All right. How's this look? This is recovery. Okay, so now that we're doing
Starting point is 00:38:50 Kevin Hart shit here, I would like to do a quick interview with you. How do you feel as the face of the city of Houston, and Houston Texans more specifically, that C.J. Stroud is just out here on a chitty chatter tour, sawing down all their quarterbacks, all their teams, That C.J. Stroud is just out here on a Chitty Chatter Tour.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Sawing down all their quarterbacks, all their teams. Talking his shit. Dumping on the Colts. You got us week one. By the way, I love C.J. Stroud. I think we all love C.J. Stroud. But there's a lot of people saying C.J. Stroud's doing a lot of talking right now. How do you feel about this? And what are your thoughts on the entire thing?
Starting point is 00:39:23 I don't mind it as long as you back it up that's how it always goes sports are backing it up i mean talking on the colts he beat the colts so we won the division we beat the colts you guys are doing a lot of chirping you win one i'm just saying i'm just saying yeah so but i mean i think that's competitors especially once you start to i mean i've been in that situation before you know during my career you put yourself out there a lot You're welcoming feedback onto yourself Then you have to go out there and perform And sometimes it makes you perform even better
Starting point is 00:39:52 Your toesies aren't really gold I mean you remember the Wisconsin lake This is nothing You're like a super cold tough guy Boy I'm in trouble right now Bottom half of my legs right now are feeling like that tingly thing, like whenever your leg falls asleep. I feel like I'm getting stabbed right now in the goddamn foot.
Starting point is 00:40:12 How were they after the game? Like immediately after the game, are you walking around cramping? The dogs were good. The feet were good. The legs felt good. I sat down up in the team corral, the player's village. Tough to get back up. How many minutes did you play?
Starting point is 00:40:26 I'd say five. Same here. So I was talking to my wife. She's flying in today. They start up tomorrow. But I was talking to her, and I was like, man, I'm so tired. I'm so sore. And I told myself, well, yeah, you just played a soccer game. And then I told myself, well, no, I played five minutes, and I was
Starting point is 00:40:41 dead, gassed. And that's on grass. Yeah, on grass. Imagine on grass. We warmed up hard. I'm going to say that going into the second game. I will not be warming up nearly as hard as I warmed up for the first game. I'm going to be doing intermittent here just because of what was happening there. Better for the look.
Starting point is 00:40:59 You were talking shit during the warm-up. You were saying, listen to what this guy says. He comes up to me and goes, our team's doing a Premier League warm-up. Oh, wow. Yeah, maybe not the best for me. You know what our team was doing? Jumping jacks? I don't know. No, we were chilling because we knew we had another 30 minutes on the field to do a warm-up. There's a lot of warm-up time.
Starting point is 00:41:16 There's a lot of warm-up time. I didn't want to lose my stuff. You think the Houston Texans suck this year? You think they're able to back it up after doing what they're doing? CJ Stroud's doing a lot of talking, obviously. He has a lot of confidence. D'Amico Ryan's another year as a head coach. Here we go. If you tip me over in this barrel, I will lose my shit.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I'm in a real vulnerable position right now. We got Sifan Diggs. We got Mixon down there. We made a lot of moves. Are you projecting this is the greatest year in the history of Houston Texans? I mean, I think when you look at the roster construction, when you look at D'Amico and what he was able to do last year in his first year, and then you give him another full offseason with this group
Starting point is 00:41:49 and the people they've added to it, I think that the expectations are very, very high for this group. I also know how difficult the NFL is. Why are you doing all the bullshit like you're going to play, maybe not play? I mean, I answered one question about it at my charity softball game. You said this would be the last year. Yeah, it's the truth. So you're definitely going to play. No, I didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I just said I'm, this is the last, I also don't know if that's, like, I'm training, right now I train, I weights four days a week and cardio three days a week. Are you still doing the exact same football workout? I'm not doing the exact same, but I've realized it's been very, very hard for me to let it go,
Starting point is 00:42:29 so it is very similar, yes. My workouts are extremely similar. I'm just trying to figure out how to let it go and how to transition into, like, I've told you before, I want to walk into a room and know I can beat the shit out of anybody in that room. I don't want to let that go. How do you feel right now? With my legs in a barrel, not great. You are so big.
Starting point is 00:42:49 And the only issue with all the hype and expectation for the Houston Texans is there's one team that's still playing football. Yeah, well, the Packers, a lot of people actually, they're saying, hey, Packers, Texans, Super Bowl. But does that worry you? Because going into last year, it was like, hey, the Texans are going to stink this year. It's going to take them a few more years before they actually get ready, and now the expectations going in, it kind of is Super Bowl or bust.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Super Bowl or bust down in Houston, you heard it. I personally think knowing D'Amico and knowing him so well, he is the perfect person to handle a situation like that because of how even keel and calm he is. I do think they obviously have a bunch of young guys on that team. They do have a lot of young guys. But a guy like D'Amico really does help level that out and keep those guys in check because expectations are a very real thing,
Starting point is 00:43:38 and they can see it in the locker room. All right, you did hard knocks. Yep. Okay. You were a young lad in that one. Yeah. We don't have to do the whole song and dance right now. We won't.
Starting point is 00:43:48 We could. Okay. This is like 15 degrees cold. Yeah. 40%. 10 toes down. Yeah. 40% ice.
Starting point is 00:43:59 22% will. Power of fame game. Yeah. You hated your hard knocks experience because the Chicago Bears have it this year. Yes. The Chicago Bears have the Hard Knocks. A lot of rookies. Obviously, Caleb Williams.
Starting point is 00:44:12 A lot of hype. Is that something you think is feasible to win with? Because I believe the Hard Knocks curse is very real. Very real. The mid-season Hard Knocks curse is still real. Yep. And I would assume the off-season one, because it's the New York Giants, is going to be viewed as one that's potentially a curse as well.
Starting point is 00:44:25 You were a part of it. You became a superstar in that thing. Oh, yeah. Remember, he was sleeping in the equipment room. So cool. You became an absolute superstar through that whole thing, but a lot of people just suck afterwards. Do you think that is true or no?
Starting point is 00:44:35 I'll tell you the 100% honest truth about hard knocks, in my opinion. I've done it twice. I did the training camp one. I did the in-season one. Oh, that's right. The people who run hard knocks, the camera people, everybody, they do a fantastic job, and they try as hard as humanly possible to stay out of the way. The people who run Hard Knocks, the camera people, everybody, they do a fantastic job and they try as hard as humanly possible
Starting point is 00:44:48 to stay out of the way. Great people. There is no denying whatsoever that there is a level of distraction that comes with it. Everybody, no matter who you are, when there's a camera in a boom or a camera in the corner of every meeting room, all the time you are going to act a little
Starting point is 00:45:04 different no matter what, no matter how hard you try to act normal, and especially when you have a full team in training camp of guys trying to make the team, guys trying to make a name for themselves, people start to act a little different, and you make a bad play, and you wonder, oh, shit, is that going to be on hard knocks?
Starting point is 00:45:18 And now on the next rep, you might not try that move, or you might not try to improve yourself because you just want to look good on hard knocks And you don't want to have a bad rep on hard knocks Yeah, you don't want to get exposed ever so you're not willing to practice You're not willing to try and push yourself to the limits And I do think that's a small factor in it Is everybody wants to look good and you're scared of looking bad
Starting point is 00:45:39 Yeah, and I think at training camp you're trying to find like kinship too, camaraderie You're trying to figure out who's going to be your friend, who's not going to be your friend, how we're going to get along, what's the culture of this team going to be. And if everybody's just being a fake-ass version of themselves, it's hard to find. And then all of a sudden you watch that first episode come out, because it comes out weekly by weekly, which is incredible, by the way, by those people. But you watch that first episode, somebody's a star, and all of a sudden now that guy's got a few more people talking to him at the dinner table the next day.
Starting point is 00:46:04 You know, like all of a sudden they're grav's got a few more people talking to him at the dinner table the next day. All of a sudden he's gravitating towards trying to get some camera time. I think it's a really cool tool because we learn about it. You're saying people are trying to steal some camera time. Yeah, I mean you've got the undrafted guy that's a superstar that's been sitting by himself before the first episode comes out. All of a sudden now he's the fan favorite and there's a couple more people having lunch with whoever he may be. Yeah, we don't want that guy on our team.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Go ahead, AJ. AJ, did you ever find any coaches or front office or anyone else, like non-players, were they acting differently? I would imagine as a coach, you could look at it and say, there's a lot of pressure on me. My message, like if I'm addressing the team, all of this is going to be analyzed by people. Yeah, no, I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I mean, obviously the coach being mic'd up all the time, his team messages, your team meetings and things like that being, I'll say this for myself. I have one speech out there that I sound like an idiot. I hate it. I hate it. Part of me was like, this speech is going to be on the internet. I hate that. I wish I would have just been my normal self and not thought about it at all. It was the one where I was like, we're a bunch of good-ass dudes, but on the field we have to did you say? It was the one where I was like, we're a bunch of good-ass dudes, but on the field we have to be like badasses.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Like it was just stupid. It was just stupid. Yeah, when was it? Right before the game? No, it was like after a practice. And we had a shitty practice, so I was trying to be motivational. It was every time I'm scented, I'm like, you're an idiot. Like you just cringe at yourself.
Starting point is 00:47:21 I am so uncomfortable. The Cardinals one was sweet on the sideline. Maybe we're just better. The Cardinals one I had a much better experience because A, I learned from my first experience. B, it was during the season. I'm forever grateful for the Cardinals one because that was the last stretch of my career and I now have my son on
Starting point is 00:47:38 film. I now have my last game on film. I have my last meetings on film. They have the video of you watching the video that I made a tribute to. That one actually was sweet. It was incredible. That's why I say the people of Hard Knocks are so good is because they're the same people that did my last one and they made sure they
Starting point is 00:47:53 gave me every single piece of footage that I now can show my son someday and that's really cool. Quick question. What was the reaction of the boys when you gave the good dudes bad guys? Not great. Especially looking back now, I'm like, wow, yeah. No wonder they weren't riled up
Starting point is 00:48:07 after that one, you shithead. Did anybody afterwards in the locker room go... Probably. Not to me, but yeah. Probably behind the... No, not to you? No.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Oh, see, that... That needs to immediately happen afterwards. There's a bunch of little huddles here. This is Hashtag United making their way onto the pitch. Good luck out there, boys. Good luck out there, boys. Good luck out there, boys.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Good kids, boys. That's a good kid for hashtag United. Hashtag swagged out. Tiger Stripe. Where's hashtag United from? I was wondering that earlier. The internet. Oh, okay. AI? Just a bunch of AI guys out there? It doesn't feel like how many good soccer players are out here. What's
Starting point is 00:48:41 the deal? Why is everybody so good? How were you able to do what you just did, too? I think I broke my toe. Oh, no. Is that on that big shot? Oh, no, we're good. We're good. I just realized I was giving people a shot there.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Hey, OTAs. I've got to stay down. I've got no choice. OTAs are currently happening right now. Were you big OTA, give it all you got guy? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Actual reps? Yeah. I'm a big believer in you have to play football to be better at football. So I really like, not the early portion. I don't love the workout portion because I like doing my own workouts. But the football portion, I do believe it's very important. What was your percentage you missed? Because you see Lamar Jackson just missed out on $750,000 because he's not going to be able to make it to 80% attendance for off-season workouts.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Wow. Now, obviously, that's a big number, $750's a lot he got 160 million guaranteed so everything's in yeah in perspective and in comparison of it all but did you ever have any of those in yours i assume no no i i generally unless i was injured i was there um because i also my brother and i talk about this all the time i mean you're you're obviously, those are your guys. Like, the guys are going to be out there practicing, especially the football portion, playing football. I like to be out there, and I like to try and work on my craft and better my craft.
Starting point is 00:49:52 So I enjoyed it. Houston was very, very hot during OTA time. It's hard to shoot here, isn't it? Not as bad as I thought it would be. Not that bad. It's not as bad. The cloud cover's nice. It is.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Well, they say there might be a big-time rainstorm there, you see. What do you think on the OTA possibly moving? I'm curious to hear more players' thoughts on it, because the public sentiment that I've seen so far differs from my personal thoughts. Okay, so Darius hates it. AJ, I think, hates it as well. I think there's been multiple people that have said they hate it. Aaron Rodgers, though, after he went back-to-back during the COVID years,
Starting point is 00:50:24 he actually calls himself the covet king or obviously that is how he would describe that situation and there's a lot of other stuff that could go into it they started their ramp up here during covet into the season and he said it was the best his arm had felt because of there wasn't the the whole thing so i think there's maybe some positions that are like cool with it but it sounds like a lot of other positions that are actual out there don't love everything about it. Yeah, my thoughts are I don't like the breakup how it is right now because I believe guys go back home after the season,
Starting point is 00:50:53 they start working out with their own trainer, and then they're called back into these workouts that are completely different than whatever they've been doing. Then you play a little bit of football and you take another break. Now, do you keep doing the workouts you've been doing? Do you go back to your trainer back home? Some guys go on vacation. And then you go right into training camp, which right now, if you look at it,
Starting point is 00:51:10 I was talking to Mahomes at his charity golf outing. I think he reports on, like, July 16th or something. For what? For training camp. In his first game. July 16th? That's what I'm saying. I think that was it.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. And then their first game is, like like September 8th or 10th. I mean, that is a long time to play football. Wasn't that July the Hall of Fame game? No, that's what's wild to me. I was like, are you guys in? And he's like, no, I have to go back then. It's crazy to me how long of a warm-up, like a ramp-up that is.
Starting point is 00:51:40 That already is the ramp-up. So Hall of Fame game has got to go even earlier than that. You would imagine. I know the Hall of Fame game is on August 1st, I think. So those guys have got to be what, four weeks before that? Five weeks before that? That is the worst.
Starting point is 00:51:54 That thing. If we're going to eliminate anything, let's eliminate the Hall of Fame game. Let's put on a spectacle. Let's do fireworks. Let's do entrances for the Hall of Famers. Well, just preseason in general, right? Oh, no. Roger Goodell is going to gonna call for it how do you feel about preseason maybe getting run out of town now there are people that are going to bat for the undrafted guys the seventh round guys use preseason games as an opportunity to live their dream jj just like you were able to do for
Starting point is 00:52:17 how many years uh 12 damn wow more guy you got booed on draft night sure did but i agree that's the biggest argument hands down for preseason games is the undrafted guys, the young guys trying to get a shot. But you take it down to two, you let those guys play. I mean, truthfully, you know, some teams don't even have their starters play at all anymore. Now, do I think you do a fair trade one for one, one preseason game for an 18th game?
Starting point is 00:52:39 No. Roger said that on our show. I mean, that's nowhere near. You know, you get rid of one game that is good for a billion or two for us, and then we'll get rid of the $100,000 game. No problem at all. There's many thoughts that I have on what you should negotiate with and how you should do it, but we all know that.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Oh, you hate the NFLPA. I got a lot of questions as well with the way they handle business, but that's a conversation for another day. See, I don't hate the NFLPA at all. I think they're in a very difficult position because of how large the player pool is, because how the average career is three and a half years. So I was a young guy once, too. I didn't care about that new CBA.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I was like, just sign it so I can play. We were locked out. I said, just sign it so I can play. Now looking back, I wish I had the knowledge and the experience that I had to be like, no, you need to be a collective group to make changes happen. But it's super hard. It's like everybody's opinion matters. Is there any way for them to win either?
Starting point is 00:53:31 No, the only power players have is to sit out and strike. That's the only power that you have. Not for that. We don't want to put that in the universe. But you're never going to get that out there because of the average career being three and a half years. Every game matters so much. Yeah. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I completely understand it. And when I was near the end of my career and we're on some of those calls and I'm talking to the young guys, they say, you've already done it. You've made your money. You've had your fun. Let us have ours. And I completely understand that sentiment because why should they trust me in that? But the group of us older guys is like if you could only see into the future
Starting point is 00:54:03 and look back now, like if you just took a second now and made that change. But it's tough. Those guys don't know. Why don't you handle the business, JJ, like you're running Burnley? How are we? So what is going on? What is going on with Burnley? What do we got going on?
Starting point is 00:54:17 We got a coach? We're currently in the managerial search right now. We're going through the process. We're doing interviews. Gump should be old. I have the short list, and I have not seen Gump's name on it. It could be an the process. We're doing interviews. I have the short list and I have not seen Gump's name on it. It could be an oversight.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Who put the list together? You said you've seen it. Of course you're the owner. Send it over. Send over all the names. Todd? Was it Todd? Interviews are upcoming. There's a process going through right now. I'll be in the later stages, yes. Are they going to have to throw a basketball through a flaming ring to prove that they can are upcoming. There's a process going through right now. I'll be in the later stages, yes. I will be in the later stages.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Are they going to throw a basketball through a flaming ring to prove that they can get the job done? A couple of the guys are here. A couple of the guys are here. I think Garrett's here. I think he's here tonight. Do you have enough people on your team? You just talked about how
Starting point is 00:55:02 everybody has an opinion and everything like that. I think we're going to have to have a conversation with Concava about everybody having an opinion. See, that's what I told you was going to happen, man. You said that immediately. JJ walks up to our team, sees how many guys there are and how good everybody is, and he goes, you guys are going to have issues. Everybody's going to want to be able to field. Literally said that. That was the first thing out of your mouth.
Starting point is 00:55:20 I'm like, no, Concava's morale is high. We lose 4-1. Turns out. All of a sudden, there's potential conversations. What were they saying? I didn't overhear any of it, but I did hear a lot of people potentially saying other people's words. I could tell. You've got so many good guys out there, and there's
Starting point is 00:55:35 20 guys on that team, and there's only 20 minutes in the game, or in each half. It's hard to split that up. I mean, the thought was you can't have too many good players, and it seems as though now... There's only seven on the field, right? Oh, up. I mean, the thought was you can't have too many good players and it seems as though now... There's only seven on the field, right? Oh, yeah. And one's the keeper, so it's six. Way too many.
Starting point is 00:55:52 But they're good guys. So what are you going to do tonight? Have you guys talked about your strategy for this evening? You'll get into the later stages of the coach's interview for Burnley. I'll be in the later stages of the strategy conversation. They are at the hotel right now trying to figure it out. I have been told.
Starting point is 00:56:06 I assume that Tony will allow this thing to lock. Oh, yeah. Eddie Speed better speak up, too. Yeah, Speed seemed to be a little bit more like, hey, you guys, Speed needs the ball. Yeah, get in the game, Speed. That's something I'm trying to tell our guys. We've got to shoot the ball. Just put the ball on the net.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Dump rubber. Yeah. Put the ball. I can always shoot it. Fire away, man. He can score. We got to shoot the ball. Just put the ball on the net. Dump rubber. I can always shoot it. Fire away, man. He can score. We tried that today. Our goalie fired one up to me, and I tried to head it in. That was the goal that Concava had. Just put pressure.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Our goalie wasn't really a goalie, though. He's playing goalie in the target time. His name's Steph. He's a dog. He's our guy. He's got this mullet and a cannon. He played goalie. I mean, he's awesome. We're getting out of here for first hour. Hour two will be on the other side. We can't.
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Starting point is 00:58:45 4-1. It was 1-0, and then it became 3-0 quick. Then we got into target scoring time, which is electrifying. We score a goal. It's 3-1. We have an opportunity to be knocking on the door. It's 3-2. We don't.
Starting point is 00:58:58 We miss that. They end up scoring. 4-1. We lose. Another game tonight at 7. Legs feel okay. Life is good. We are lucky as hell to be in this city of Cary, North Carolina.
Starting point is 00:59:09 The Talks at Table is here. At Bossy Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Con man. Not a bad city here in Cary, North Carolina. No, not bad at all. And, you know, Ty mentioned there are Bojangles everywhere. We unfortunately didn't get some yesterday, but we did visit a wonderful Sheetz that got the job done on our trip home.
Starting point is 00:59:25 But, I mean, it is nice to be out here. And Gumpy said it. This is a beautiful pitch. Truly beautiful. You guys were playing under the lights last night. I'm excited to see that tonight. A nice little night game. Feels a little different when the lights come on.
Starting point is 00:59:38 I think we're in the actual stadium, I think. Oh, here we go. I think so. The night game against Natty. That man up in the Hawks' nest is a college football national champion, a Super Bowl champion, the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, A.J. Hawk. Hawker, how you doing?
Starting point is 00:59:53 This is your first soccer tournament? Well, wait a minute. A crowd has gathered. There we go. And they are saying a name, and they are mentioning a crowd. It is A.J. Hawk. A.J., you do a lot of soccer tournaments? No, I have not.
Starting point is 01:00:03 My daughter used to play soccer. She does not anymore. She's in lacrosse. So this is my first time in a long time at one of these things. But can we grow this grass in the north? Could we grow this grass in Indiana? What is required? Yeah, is this bent grass?
Starting point is 01:00:15 What is it? Bermuda? What do we call it? And I know we've made quite – I love grass. People know it. Sure. Smoke it, run on it. What?
Starting point is 01:00:22 Live it. What? Grass is good. Yeah. Grass is a good thing. There is shit and crop grass, though. Oh, yeah. Outside the Thunderdome.
Starting point is 01:00:30 And then there is bingo. And then it was like I was swinging with a weighted bat. Then I got down to this grass, and it's like the best grass of all time. Exactly. If this grass is available anywhere, they need to be getting it. Indoor stadiums in the NFL need to be somehow figuring out how do we. I mean, there was a guy. I'm not going to say his actual name because who knows what he's currently doing in college. I walked into his house.
Starting point is 01:00:50 I had no idea. He had a false wall on the other side. He had a full greenery setup. This guy was growing marijuana behind this wall. He had the lighting and the electrics and the water and the heat and the temperature and the humidity. He had everything like figured out. This kid's in college. You're telling me that these NFL teams couldn't figure out the lighting and the grass and the heating and the watering to have that field in every.
Starting point is 01:01:11 People are sliding. It's not even getting dug up. At all. You're pulling on it. You're moving on it. It rained just yesterday. Massive down. We were circling the area because this is the greatest grass I've ever seen in my entire life.
Starting point is 01:01:20 They have to be able to figure it out to put it in something. I feel like, and AJ, I know this is like we're going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about this grass, but playing a lot of different sports that involve grass, soccer, football,
Starting point is 01:01:37 college, NFL, as a youth, as I traveled around, it's like first shoot, maybe the greatest grass I've ever seen in any sport at all. Better than golf course grass as well. It is. Foxy. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Even golfing, yeah. This is better grass than golfing. It's soft. The first thing I said when I walked down these steps, I was like, geez, look at these fields. Like, this is perfect. I almost thought for a second this was turf. Like, it wasn't even real.
Starting point is 01:02:01 But Penn State, actually, that's a school that's somewhat in the north that always had great, great grass. It was much even real. Penn State, actually, that's a school that's somewhat in the north that always had great grass. It was much different than everywhere else. They would live and die for that. They would walk right off a bridge if they were told to. You don't think
Starting point is 01:02:18 some people are told, hey, make sure this grass is the best. That's that loyalty that Penn State people have. This grass needs to be everywhere, Todd. Yeah, I agree. You know, it's one of those things where the pitch is just so beautiful, and they also, like Tottenham, like the blueprints are out there. So it's not like we have to, like, figure out something.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Like, there are stadiums in the world that have this kind of grass that also do concerts and all that other bullshit that NFL owners definitely want to do. Like, yeah, sure, is it expensive? grass that also do concerts and all that other bullshit that NFL owners definitely want to do. Like, yeah, sure, is it expensive? But can you imagine if this grass was in every stadium in the NFL? We'd never hear any one bitch again. There'd be no— Well, there was a big—the Packers were pushing a big initiative.
Starting point is 01:02:56 It was the Green Bay Packers. Well, you know, yeah, they had the Helix. No, no, Bob Tiaras. Well, yeah. He was Green Bay Packer legend. Yeah, for sure. And I don't know what he's doing right now. Maybe, you know what, if every NFL team actually did have grass,
Starting point is 01:03:10 he might be signed with a team. I don't think he currently is. But, yeah, that was a big thing. I mean, when the Packers went and played the Giants in London, they had to strip, like, the seam and the turf right down the entire field. And it was like, okay, well, we can't be doing this because we see the pitch, you know, for the Premier League when Tottenham is out here and when Arsenal's playing and all these other teams. It's doable. So maybe it's time
Starting point is 01:03:32 we just get it done because this grass is beautiful. They've got it figured out here in North Carolina. Speaking of having it figured out, how about Jordan Love so quickly up there? AJ, I know you're the all-time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Ty, you're an owner of the Green Bay Packers. Jordan Love's making some comments about how he feels about the culture in the locker room. I believe we have a video of it? Mm-hmm. Yep. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I think last year we started it off and we came a lot closer. Just through the adversity we went on in that season and making a run at the end there. But coming into OTAs, there's been so much energy in the building. Since I've been here, I feel like this is the closest the team's been. It's very awesome to see the guys going out there and competing. Like we talked about before, just having everybody here right now at this time is very cool because you just build those relationships and get closer with guys. You can go out there and work and compete with them every day.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I think this team's an awesome spot right now. You have to love that if you're a Packers owner or fan because there was a chance that your team was going to stink forever like other teams that stink forever. If Jordan Love wasn't going to be able to work out because you forced Aaron Rodgers out of the building after winning multiple MVPs, instead, Jordan Love's the guy. Instead, Jordan Love's on deck to get a massive contract.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And instead, Jordan Love's talking about the tightest locker room that he has seen since he's been there. Now, it makes sense because as Jordan Love got drafted, and Aaron is kind of near the end of his career at the Green Bay Packers, they were certainly a transition era. This is the LaFleur, Guth Kuntz era. The old guard was kind of getting, I don't want to say
Starting point is 01:04:56 run out of town, but certainly cut off the team. And they just posted a picture, I think it was Cobb, Devontae Adams, I think Bakhtiari, still vacationing together. Like that run, Mike McCarthy era, into that was long and very close. AJ, you were a part of that. That was like a family, right? That team was like an actual family.
Starting point is 01:05:12 That's why you guys had so much success up there. Absolutely. Closest thing that you can get to like a college atmosphere was definitely there in my time at Green Bay. So then that particular team starts kind of getting phased out. Quarterback also kind of getting forced out. That's the main thing. Once the quarterback gets phased out. Quarterback also kind of getting forced out. That's the main thing. Once the quarterback gets phased out, that's when it gets weird. You could have a franchise that's just looking for leadership,
Starting point is 01:05:31 looking for something because you've been, think about it, you're trusting Aaron. Every game I went into, we all 100% expected and thought we were going to win because of Aaron. And there was a young generation that was getting introduced to, oh, this is going to be Jordan Love's team at some point. Aaron certainly go, we all have respect for him, but there's probably a little bit of this. Now,
Starting point is 01:05:48 it's fully LeFleur, fully Jordan Love, fully Goode the Coons, and fully a young nucleus that is coming together and playing great ball already. If I was a Green Bay Packers fan, and I became one there for a couple years, 6 to midnight, Bop City, I could not be more happy
Starting point is 01:06:04 with everything I'm hearing. Even whenever he got named the starter and everybody in the locker room was coming out of nowhere saying, this is the guy. Yeah. This is the guy. It's felt like this since day one, seemingly with Jordan, and now you guys got another 10 years of great quarterback play. Yeah, hopefully. I mean, obviously, they've said that they want to get his contract done before training camp starts, so that's
Starting point is 01:06:20 kind of the next... How come it works for them? Huh? Huh, Connor? They have the right system. I mean, I don't know. The grading system they've used has gone back how long? How come it always works? It's like a family business in there, basically. Did you see who the Colts signed?
Starting point is 01:06:32 Oh, yeah. We went through Matt Ryan, Phillip Rivers, Matt Ryan, Carson Wentz, I mean, we were just searching, searching, searching, searching. We had Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. Okay. We rolled the dice. We hit. We got Peyton. Then, obviously Luck. Okay, we rolled the dice. We hit. We got Peyton.
Starting point is 01:06:47 Then, obviously, Andrew Luck retires because of injuries and also a fact. He's one of the smartest humans on earth. And we get into the roll the dice, who's your quarterback sweepstakes. It's a long, winding road to hell if you have no idea who your quarterback is. And you guys literally go from Brett Favre. I don't know how he's doing and everything else. I think he's doing good. Good football player.
Starting point is 01:07:03 He's a good football player. He's spinning the ball. He's got to really spin it. Especially for the Packers. He's a good football player. He can spin the ball. He can really spin it. Uh-huh. He can really spin it, especially for the Packers. That's no legend about it. No, no, no. There's no legend about it.
Starting point is 01:07:11 He threw that thing a country mile. That guy can spin it in the country, in his jeans, in the mud. He can spin it, let alone in the NFL. But then you go to Aaron Rodgers, who sits for three. Think about Aaron Rodgers sitting for three years in the modern day. No way. No. No way would that happen.
Starting point is 01:07:27 Especially when, you know, A used to talk about, like, when they would see him in camp and stuff, and he's playing with the scout team. It was kind of like the Mahomes stuff, where it was like everyone else on the team seeing what he's doing, and it's like, all right, how much longer is this guy? Can we go without, like, we have to let this guy play. He's that talented. He's that good. But same deal.
Starting point is 01:07:42 It's just like, nope, Favre's still here. He's still the guy. Like, we kind of need to just wait. And it wasn't exactly like that with Jordan Love. In terms of the Packers as a whole, obviously the guys they're drafting have immense talent. Rodgers, a lot of people saying, hey, he should have been the first overall pick. He falls after Alex Smith goes one.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Same with Jordan Love. But there's just something to being okay with pissing off your entire fan base because that's what they did when they drafted Rodgers when they had Favre. Oh yeah, you had a reaction. When they drafted Jordan Love again, and you understand it because the success they were having. They went to two NFC championships
Starting point is 01:08:15 back-to-back. It's like, hey, we just maybe need another piece to kind of get over the hump, get over the Super Bowl. But they're okay with pissing off all the fans, and then you have, like, very few teams have the opportunity where it's, you have a Hall of Fame quarterback in place, and the guy you draft gets to learn for three years under that guy, and he already has a little bit of skill.
Starting point is 01:08:33 So then the same thing happens with Rodgers. I mean, we remember what Jordan Love looked like when those videos first came out. Oh, he's missing a net, Connor. Bad. Exactly. The guy was throwing it in the ground. You piss off Aaron. You don't get better to maybe get past the NFC Championship.
Starting point is 01:08:45 And the guy can't hit a 10x10 net. Exactly. It was hard not to say that. I thought it was very hard not to. But then he sits for three years, and then he has the year he had last year, and everyone's saying, yeah, not only does he have immense ability, but it was because he got to sit behind a Hall of Fame quarterback and learn from him. In the NFL today, teams obviously want to do that,
Starting point is 01:09:05 but how many teams really have the patience to be okay with doing that? Yeah, to be clear, I would not have been able to do it loudly. I would not have been able to be a GM to do it because right there we get to the NFC Championship. I want to win a Super Bowl. Now we've got to think for four years down the road. Oh, you're stupid, and then they do it. That's like this Penix thing
Starting point is 01:09:26 Everybody's reaction including mine First 24 hours is like This is the dumbest team of all time So stupid It's going to end up working out for them And they're going to take a victory Is Kirk going to win MVP two years in a row and then move on No but Kirk wasn't even there yet
Starting point is 01:09:41 Doesn't even know people in the equipment room In the training room, in the chef, anywhere Doesn't know really anything down there in Atlanta Just moving back into a house down there Kirk wasn't even there yet, doesn't even know people in the equipment room, in the training room, in the chef, anywhere. Doesn't know really anything down there in Atlanta. Just moving back into a house down there. I mean, there's a lot different from him and Aaron Rodgers. But if Penix gets time to develop and grow and he ends up becoming a guy, it's like they will be able to take a victory lap for the rest of their lives no matter what you thought on draft night or 24 hours afterwards.
Starting point is 01:10:01 For sure. But even like the luck situation when you're on the team, like let's say Peyton breaks his arm as opposed to having the issues with the neck and you guys go 1-15 or whatever and still get the first overall pick. Do you think Ursa is still drafting luck if Peyton has an injury like that where he breaks an ankle, breaks a leg, breaks an arm, and it's not like a neck-type issue where, hey, we don't know if he's going to be the same guy moving forward?
Starting point is 01:10:24 I don't think so. I think he'd probably trade out of there. Wasn't everybody worried about the nerve regenerating up so he could throw and hold the ball? That's the biggest reason I think they probably put it over the top for Jim Erickson. And it was also during the lockout I think. And he's one of the only quarterbacks to have that injury, right? Isn't that not really a quarterback injury? Spinal fusion or whatever?
Starting point is 01:10:40 Yeah, I don't remember exactly what it was. I just remember walking into training camp that year, and I guess I had not been in contact with a lot of people. And I was summoned to the training room, summoned to the training room. And I go down there, and they're like, he's in the back or whatever. I'm like, all right, cool, cool. First day of training camp, I open it up.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Wires just out of Peyton. He's attached to every single stim that we have. Aaron Burrill's in there. I'm like, are we okay? What do we got going? Because it was real secretive going into the season on whether or not his neck was okay. And they were like, I think we got one here. And then all of a sudden, he misses that entire year. Then we go into lockout.
Starting point is 01:11:18 He has to go over to Europe to get some neck stuff. He has to get some other spine stuff here. And then he can't feel his finger. Lockout, you can't have conversation with anybody, right, because front office, whatnot. And he was owed like $30 million like a week later. So Jim Hersey's sitting there with a vape and whatever, just going like,
Starting point is 01:11:34 what do we do? He got Andrew Luck sitting right there, too. That's a tough decision. I'm thankful they did it. Now, tough decisions was something that Bill Belichick was able to do for a long time. Julian Edelman on his podcast, Games with Names, talked to Matt Light. Matt Light chit-chat about Bill Belichick's obsession with getting it right and learning from what you did in the past. Let's say we're playing the Jets, and it's Monday afternoon.
Starting point is 01:12:00 So we're playing a divisional game, right? We're coming off a loss on the road, and we have two key players on defense that went down. He'll go back in his notes and do keyword search or something, and he'll find a scenario that mimics that almost to a T, and then he'll look and see, how did I address the team? Did I go hard on them? Did I take it easy on them? Did I push them? And how hard did I push them? Did we practice a certain way? What was the outcome? How did it come out?
Starting point is 01:12:28 All that stuff gets analyzed, man. That's the craziness and the complexity that a lot of people don't realize. I don't know how much that weighs in his success or whatever else, but that's who we AJ, how about the diligence there in notes and also being able to coach long
Starting point is 01:12:43 enough that you have a scenario from your past that equals what? Played a divisional opponent. We lost on the road on Monday night. We have a team that is below 500 the next week. What was my message? Let me just type in some shit here. Finds it. Bang.
Starting point is 01:12:58 That's what we go to. Bill Belichick's a genius, and he's proving it with more and more stories we hear, AJ. Yeah, imagine the discipline it must take for Bill. So at the end of every day, is he typing up notes? Is he doing a Schefter thing? Remember, Schefter journals every single thought. You think he could be recording it on a little recorder, and then someone transcribes it for him?
Starting point is 01:13:17 Is that ever possible? Because Bill's not only the note-taking thing. I mentioned this to you earlier. You would think, oh, Bill's old school. He's got journals and journals of handwritten stuff. But no, he's on his computer so he can go back and efficiently look and find these situations instead of scrolling through 15 bins of old binders that he had. How many times, I think I've been around Bill now five times.
Starting point is 01:13:39 He had that computer with him everywhere. Every time. That's right. The day of the draft, the night before the draft, there's only one thing we're really carrying and that's that computer. I couldn't even fathom what is inside of that computer. The amount of football knowledge that is
Starting point is 01:13:54 in that computer. Notes. The first time we chit-chatted about doing drafts and getting to know each other was in Chicago in the back room. He literally, we just started watching film on this thing and we just started rolling through. I mean, we went through like 45 guys just film, film, film. Look at this, just going through it. Loves ball.
Starting point is 01:14:10 There's no way he's not back on the sideline, even if he has the greatest fall on TV in history. Well, that's what's absurd is that the fact that you're hearing all these stories about this guy and that he doesn't have a job. Wanted one. Yeah, wanted a job. Like, obviously, we love Raheem Morris on the record. Raheem Morris.
Starting point is 01:14:26 We think he'll do very well in Atlanta, and granted, that's the only team Bill looked at. But imagine hearing this as a front office, as a team like Atlanta, who has won a Super Bowl in forever, if not ever, and then you still don't hire the guy. I think there's a chance he's the smartest person on the world. Or in the world, excuse me.
Starting point is 01:14:41 On the world, yeah. That's good for our program. Yeah, both, either way. We joke about Terrence Howard, but he actually, Bill Belichick might be the smartest guy. I don't joke about Terrence Howard. Of course, I agree with you. Well, that's because you don't understand what the hemoglobin's doing right next to
Starting point is 01:14:54 the metal and the hydrogen. You need to explain it to him. Carbon and hydrogen are at the same wave outer. He's going to remake Saturn without gravity. How come nobody's come out and said he's completely wrong? That's what I'm saying. And how come I've been lied to? Who's been lying to you?
Starting point is 01:15:10 I sat through a science class and told me the opposite shit that I heard from Terrence Howard. I know that. I don't know what they said, but I do know it was not what Terrence said. We need the new periodic table, don't we? Well, it's actually... It's actually the old. He's going all the way back. It's the original. Yeah, wavelength. And it's actually flower of life is the circle. That's the thing. He's going all the way back. It's the original. Yeah, Wavelength. And it's actually
Starting point is 01:15:25 Flower of Life's a surfer. Exactly. You're right. Bill Belichick. The fact that now he's the Croatian president. Is that what happened? Yeah, he became the prime minister of Croatia. Won the election, yeah. Congratulations. I mean, that's crazy. Did he run a campaign? Was it on our show? No, he was just on the ballot and everyone was like, holy shit, Bill Belichick won the ballot.
Starting point is 01:15:42 I'm voting for him. But like, he's on a victory lap tour right now, enjoying his life. I think he's going and doing things probably that he couldn't do for 49 years as a head coach or coaching in the NFL. But it's like the ability to adapt to players when you're coaching them, to the style of football, and then also to adapt technologically, whatever, how you'd go about doing what you're doing. A lot of people would think that Bill would be way too stubborn. Like, he's way too stubborn. He's stuck in his ways.
Starting point is 01:16:07 This is what he's going to do. Remember, that's what people were saying why they didn't want to give him a job. He's too stubborn. He's stuck in his ways. He's doing this entire thing. Instead, he's like, if this will make me better quicker, I will do whatever the hell you need for me. Big time goal.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Wow. Big time goal. I believe it was a far one. Other half of the field. Goalie got caught sleeping. Keeps. Any bicycle kick goals yet? There was a free kick from Inter Milan, I believe, that was nasty.
Starting point is 01:16:34 JJ almost had a bike, right? He almost had a bicycle kick. I think JJ almost took somebody's head off. I think he did do that. Yeah, he yelled at some poor heckler on the way into that. Yeah, I caught him fat, I saw. Yeah, that was me. What was the deal with that? Yeah, he yelled at some poor heckler on the way into that. Yeah, he called him fat, I saw. Yeah, that was me. What was the deal with that?
Starting point is 01:16:47 Well, he was in his zone. You know, he was in his zone. There's some other stuff going on around the NFL. Our favorite coach for the Philadelphia Eagles is talking more shit. Listen to Nick Sirianni address, you know, the chitter-chatter in the NFC East. You know, sometimes you see Giants fans around here with the, you know, being so close. And, you know, they give me a good, like, hey, go Giants.
Starting point is 01:17:09 And I typically let it go, but if the guy gets me good enough, I usually say, you know, got your best player. Okay! Sirianni's talking, he's doing a press conference about his shit-talking happening in the streets of Philadelphia, which is another reason why I love Nick Sirianni.
Starting point is 01:17:26 I think we all do. Are the Philadelphia Eagles going to be able to get back? Interesting, especially with the loss of J.C. Kelsey. How will that go? But I do appreciate the fact that adding Saquon Barkley is something that is not on Sirianni's mind just on the field, but also division rival. We just took literally the only guy that sells any tickets for you. He's on our team now. Paid him like $10 million or whatever it is he opens things up drastically you would assume for coach
Starting point is 01:17:47 sirianni we need the eagles to get back to because the difference that we were like the sirianni that we saw i can't remember if it was like the chiefs game whoever yeah when he's going into the tunnel and he's talking shit to every single fan that's looking at him that guy when whenever that was week six week seven when it was before the Eagles went on their free fall, to the guy we saw at the end of the season when they were starting to say, oh, yeah, there's a chance Sirianni's going to get fired with the coordinators and everything. The NFL is just better when Sirianni can be out there talking shit, pissing everybody off. So I'm really hoping that adding Saquon Barkley not only frees things up for Jalen Hurts a little bit, because I think they
Starting point is 01:18:25 missed Miles Sanders last year, but just the Eagles in general. We need them to be good. Because the NFL is just better when Sirianni can kind of cook and talk his shit. And you mentioned there with Big Dom. I mean, that's obviously a massive piece of this entire thing. Big Dom not being able to be on a sideline
Starting point is 01:18:41 to kind of wrangle Nick Sirianni. I'm surprised we don't see him at press conferences because there's a chance that Nick Sirianni is just going to go full promo every single time. I wonder how hard that is for him to fight, AJ. I want to see. I mean, I assume Sirianni is the same way all the time, 24 hours a day with his family, whatever it may be. But I think Sirianni is kind of like a guy.
Starting point is 01:19:00 You know when you have a player that when they're feeling themselves and they're playing well, they're kind of bouncing around the court or the field, wherever they may be, whatever the sport is, and they're enjoying themselves and having fun talking. But then when that guy kind of has a rough day, they're down the dumps. They're not talking. They're not doing their thing. And the coach has to say, like, hey, I need you the way you are. You play best when you're out there and you're talking.
Starting point is 01:19:20 You're letting everybody know. And I think that's what Nick Sirianni is. Man, it's a lot easier to talk shit when you're winning. It's really tough when you're losing, isn't it? Like, you lose a game. Conor McGregor's the best at it, though, right? Okay, so what's going on? Good transition there.
Starting point is 01:19:31 He canceled a press conference yesterday. Yeah, not looking good. UFC 303. Obviously, this has taken forever to kind of make this Chandler-Conor McGregor fight happen and become official, and Chandler's been waiting, you know, since they do the Tough Enough. Yeah, the Ultimate Tough Enough The Ultimate Fighter which is on season 60 or whatever. Congratulations to them. They've been waiting
Starting point is 01:19:50 a long, long time. Obviously, Conor McGregor does that movie where he's getting Oscar nods. I wouldn't go that far. I think he's getting Oscar nods. I don't think so. Listen, I love Roadhouse. I love Dylan Hall. I love Conor McGregor. That movie absolutely sucked. No! I heard it was good. I didn't see it though. I love Dylan Hall. I love Conor McGregor. That movie absolutely sucked. No.
Starting point is 01:20:05 I heard it was good. I didn't see it, though. It was not. Okay, there you go. Yeah, it was not good. So I was just told that it's Conor's cheeks the entire first 30 seconds. A lot of McGregor's butt cheeks in there. So every time I would go to start it, I'm like, do I want to see Conor's cheeks right now?
Starting point is 01:20:18 And it was just not a time where I wanted to see his cheeks. So I did not get to watch it, but I assume I will at some point, and I will enjoy it. Conor McGregor obviously watched the documentary Notorious from where he was to where he became. Just basically calling his shot and working his dick off and monitoring or filming it all. That was a great documentary. And obviously, his box office sells out everywhere. So him finally getting back into Octagon to take on a guy that they've been talking about for years. Is he going to fight Michael Chandler?
Starting point is 01:20:42 And Michael Chandler is a guy who will just go in there and get punched in the face. Oh, yeah. Michaelandler wants to be electrifying in the ring it's like this is a perfect fight and chandler knew that that's why he called him out after his last fight or whatever it's like connor you're coming back for somebody it might as well be me we're all jacked up then all of a sudden yesterday ufc 303 press conference gets canceled like hours beforehand and now everybody's starting to wonder everything ariel hawani allegedly was going to have an update today at 1 o'clock. We'll obviously keep the eyes peeled. Yeah, I just feel bad for Chandler
Starting point is 01:21:07 because this fight's not happening. It's just not happening. Now Chandler has wasted two years of his life just basically waiting for McGregor to get ready. Wait a second. Wait a second. Ariel Helwani has reported that great positivity that Conor will fight at UFC 303
Starting point is 01:21:24 is what Ariel Helwani said. Great positivity. Now, he is plugged in. Ariel Helwani is pretty plugged in with the Conor McGregor camp. He actually, as soon as the press conference got canceled, he came out and said, this isn't Conor. Everybody's calling him a back out and everything. It's not a Conor McGregor thing.
Starting point is 01:21:39 He knows it's bad for business. I hope that's the case. I think there was also some people hypothesizing that maybe he just got injured in camp and normally we would not hear about it because camp is so long. But since a press conference was happening on the same exact day, it was like, ah, we can't make it.
Starting point is 01:21:53 We got to get some scans for something. I'm hoping that's the case as opposed to him saying, what the hell am I doing this for? I got a yacht. I got hundreds of millions. The Black Ford gin over there is doing fantastic. What's the whiskey? Proper 12. Proper 12.
Starting point is 01:22:06 He was talking shit on Guinness last week. He was like, if you want to drink Guinness, go ahead. Remember what they did to Ireland. They were a bunch of spies. I think he said that they were spies for England. Arthur Guinness had to turn around the harp on the logo to face in as opposed to out because he was allegedly. That's what Conor McGregor was posting. That's nuts.
Starting point is 01:22:25 So I think he's trying to really go for it all business-wise and seemingly having success. I hope it wasn't a, yeah. You know, they say you can't train as hard when you're waking up in satin sheets. It's like if you're waking up on a yacht in satin sheets with other businesses booming, is it as easy to be like, yeah, I want to go get punched in the face. I hope that's not the case. I hope that's not the case.
Starting point is 01:22:44 And he's already like established himself. Already a Hall of Famer. Forever, yeah. I want to go get punched in the face. I hope that's not the case. He's already established himself. Already a Hall of Famer. Considered a goat. Double champ. There's so many things that can go to mind for him being like, you know what? I don't want to do it anymore. I hope that's not the case. There's part of that, but I think also anything we know about these UFC fighters, he's wired differently.
Starting point is 01:22:59 Chandler's been talking a bunch of shit to him. You think he doesn't, and he's been away for a while, you think he doesn't want to get back into the octagon and kind of remind everyone, like, hey, when I'm at the top of my game, like, I'm the – People don't know time. Well, I know – Think about that.
Starting point is 01:23:14 How long ago – when was Connor in his prime? Like, there's a lot of young – Probably like five years. That's what I'm saying. You know, everything is so – Maybe even longer. Like, recency bias now. Like, there's a lot of people, a lot of people we're around
Starting point is 01:23:24 that don't know that Conor. But to that point, don't you think that's why he would want to get back in? Absolutely. Because if he comes back in, it's the main event at UFC 303. The UFC's never been hotter than it is right now. If he goes in there and has a crazy highlight reel knockout of Michael Chandler, guess what? Everybody's talking about Conor McGregor again.
Starting point is 01:23:42 And then we're already looking to the next super fight when he's going to be main eventing again. Yeah, I love what you're saying about having to prove and wanting to feel that again, and I hope that's the case for Conor, who's allegedly always training. Even when he's on his yachts, he's got super nice gyms, he's training, he's always fighting. Yeah, he's got McGregor fans. He's a fighter, you know what I mean? He needs one, two, three times he needs to get out there and fight that whole thing. My hammies are locking up right now.
Starting point is 01:24:07 Yeah. Just from one five-minute sesh of soccer in the morning. What if he is in a machine? You know, what if he is like – Certainly possible. Now he's a movie star. And what if there's a chance – and it's not a Conor McGregor thing at all. But what if he is in training, like realizing maybe I don't – maybe it's not the same.
Starting point is 01:24:21 Maybe for whatever reason. Maybe I'm not moving as quick. Because if he was to lose to Michael Chandler, I mean, that would be a massive, massive, not saying any of this is real, but whenever something gets canceled, you automatically have to speculate everything. Well, especially if he's looking at the style of fighter he is.
Starting point is 01:24:38 He's like, hey, obviously Chandler will stand and bang with people, but he's also a wrestler. Is Conor thinking, do I really want to take the next eight weeks, or he's in the middle of it right now, but this training camp, and I'm going to be grappling, and is that the fight? Do I really want to get prepared,
Starting point is 01:24:54 go out there, and then have it potentially be like, I get the best of him on his feet, and then he just takes me down and grinds me out that way. You never want to get grinded out right in front of everybody. No, no, no. Yeah, especially, no.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Especially, who's Habib? Yeah, Habib. I remember those fights. Oh, yeah. Habib would just like torture you. Like a boa constrictor. Talking shit while wrestling him, laying on him. Is that right? And then they're downer. Somebody mentioned it.
Starting point is 01:25:24 We need to get Dagestan on our side. Oh yeah, now. I don't know how that would work, and I'm not necessarily sure what international relations are with whom. I believe they are loyal to one country. We need to figure out how to get them on our side. Who's that?
Starting point is 01:25:41 I believe it is a pro-Russia country. Yeah, mother Russia, unfortunately. Well, they're in the middle of some stuff right now. Now might be a time because Russia's distracted to get in there and win over the Dagestani people. Kind of look over here. We need them on our side. They are all dogs. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:55 All of them are dogs. Wrestling bears. Like, if you get to the UFC during this era, congratulations. Who do you get to fight? Oh, a Dagestani who's actually been bears, and swimming up creek in frozen rivers. Yep. Like, that is how they train. And they got Hasbulla, obviously, pulling for him at all.
Starting point is 01:26:11 That's a triple threat. As we continue to talk about sports we don't know a lot about, let's go to baseball. One of the Hundo boys, you see it? Oh, yeah. Jerry Jones, one of the Hundo boys, makes Shohei Ohtani look like a dum-dum tie. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:26:23 I mean, we've said it. Listen, Paul Skeen's getting all headlines. You've got two guys in your starting rotation throwing just premium gas, diesel, 101 miles an hour, K&M. I mean, the Pirates, again, you've got two guys at the top of your rotation who are like this. If you just get a little bit of run support, just a little bit of run support,
Starting point is 01:26:40 you have other people chip in a little bit. Like, this is a team that can make the playoffs, and it's a team that a lot of people wouldn't want to see in the playoffs. As exciting and as good of a one-two punch in their rotation as anyone in baseball right now. So I do wonder from watching this, and shout out to Jared Jones. He's got good
Starting point is 01:26:55 vibes. Did they sell a Japanese ad because Shohei Otani was coming? It's possible. I know a lot of the boards in the stadiums now are digital, so they'll just pop in. Where are you paused? Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Is that always at PNC Park in Pittsburgh? That's a genius move. If there's a company, too, just buying advertising right behind Shohei Otani from Japan, that feels like a brilliant move because all these clips go to Japan, I assume. Do they do the hockey thing where the hockey boards on the broadcast are different than what it is actually inside the arena? So the hockey boards are naturally one color, right?
Starting point is 01:27:30 So they're able to paint over it. I do wonder if now baseball is doing that, but that's good business right there. Oh, yeah, for sure. Because Shohei Otani, obviously. How's Shota doing? He's been roughed up big time in his last two starts. Is it our fault?
Starting point is 01:27:42 He gave up, I want to say, nine earned runs in his first seven starts, and I think he's given up like 12 in his last two. All right, let's get back to some football talk. Two has lost too much weight. People hate it. Here's Jalen Waddell chit-chatting about two being super skinny now. What's that? You know, I told him I miss Chubby Tour, man.
Starting point is 01:27:58 I miss Chubby Tour, man. I ain't going to lie. I didn't like it when I seen it. I told him I'm not with him. I told him straight up, I'm not with him. He eats him all at the same time, man. I ain't gonna lie. I didn't like it when I seen it. I'll tell them I'm not with it. I'll tell them straight up I'm not with it. Eat some more at Sunday, man. Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, fags. Hair twisted in some
Starting point is 01:28:14 more. I'm not. I'm loving it, though. He's looking good, feeling good. Got to throw with him a lot this offseason, so he's looking good. So that's now Jalen and Tua both going like, whole new Tua this year. What did Tyreek say?
Starting point is 01:28:29 Tyreek said, he said, is this guy on Ozempic? He was at Pro Bowl fat as shit. And then all of a sudden he's super. Remember, he's got great jawline right now. His hair kind of froed up a little bit. New tat, whole new arm tatted up. Super thin, more agile. AJ, they're saying he's going to extend plays and make the Miami Dolphins offense even more lethal.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Skinny Tua. I guess, have we heard from Tua yet? I'd like to know if he had a plan going into this offseason. Like, hey, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to lose 10, 15 pounds, whatever it may be. But you know the first time he comes out of a game injured, if he does, I don't wish anyone to get hurt. But if he's limping ever once, that's the first thing first thing people say oh maybe he needs to put that weight back on uh i can't wait to see how tua handles the weight loss and also how he continues to evolve his look
Starting point is 01:29:14 yeah oozes look cool all the time they do they literally look cool all the time all shapes all sizes oozes look cool all the time two areua now getting jocked, double tat, hair's growing out long. I think we have a chance to maybe have coolest looking guy to ever play quarterback ahead. Not right now, obviously. And I think that's what a lot of people are saying. I think that's what Jalen's saying, too. Jalen's like, hey, we need to get there. He brings in a beard into this entire equation.
Starting point is 01:29:40 That's the thing. He needs to grow the beard back. Because his beard, I mean, like you mentioned it, the Usos, they're always so lined up. It looks so good every time. Roman Reigns, the Uso brothers, all the guys in the WWE, their beards are phenomenal. Okay? Tua needs to get
Starting point is 01:29:55 because it just looks weird. It just looks weird. You have that type of hair. If you have a nice tight beard with it as well, we are talking coolest looking QB ever. We have some big time NFL news. Potential friend of yours, Corey Lindsley, has been released from the Chargers.
Starting point is 01:30:12 New regime. Jim Harbaugh loves offensive line. Thought there was maybe a chance that you would still keep the veteran who's getting paid very well to be the center for the Chargers. He was released and now they're talking about retirement and all the records are coming up.
Starting point is 01:30:29 1,572 straight pass block snaps without allowing a sack. Obviously, Aaron loves this guy. I assume everybody in Green Bay does. AJ, what are your thoughts on Corey and the potential end of the road here, which goes back to the conversation about Jordan Love saying, hey, it feels like our locker room's tighter than it's ever been because this is like their team now. That previous team
Starting point is 01:30:49 is seemingly, you know, the light at the end of the tunnel is kind of there for everybody, AJ. Yeah, I mean I don't know if anyone, like Bakhtiari might have been the last of that kind of era, I think, in Green Bay. Him and Mason Crosby and they're not there anymore. But yeah, Corey Lindsey, he is
Starting point is 01:31:05 such a unique, weird, awesome dude. What do you mean by weird? He watches weird movies? Super intelligent. You'd say, Corey, tell me, what's going on in Israel-Palestine? What's happened? He'll legit tell you for 20 minutes. He'll go back to
Starting point is 01:31:19 3,000 years ago. He needs to start watching more film. That's what Harbaugh said. Football-wise, too. Corey, I don't want to hear it. Corey's like a weird genius and one of those country-strong kids at the same time. So, great combination for a center. Hey, Corey.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Congratulations if it is it. If not, can't wait to see. He weighs about 190 pounds right now. Where are you heading next? Oh, really? He's already on his transition? Super, super lean. What if he was talking about Terrence Howard and Jim Harbaugh heard of him?
Starting point is 01:31:45 I would like to ask Corey, hey, what do you think about this whole Terrence Howard situation? Because he'd give you a 40-minute thing on every single thing. When did you see him? He's 195 pounds. The Derby? Okay, so that could have been some news. Hey, Corey Lindsley, center, guy who's one of the most world-renowned tough guys. He's now 185 pounds.
Starting point is 01:32:01 He's not 180, but I don't know what he is. But he's not what he was playing with you Well congratulations Corey It sounds like we don't know He had a heart situation He had some scary stuff He's missed a lot of games like the last two years And I know they were talking retirement
Starting point is 01:32:17 Might be right around the corner You talking about being super smart Yesterday as soon as we got here I ran into a 22 year old named austin and austin was a guy who was able to pull any day of the week that any date in the history of the world was okay so i don't know austin completely but his dad comes over to me and says, say a date in history. And I say, May 2nd, 1987. That's my birthday. This guy, his eyes actually start like it's a filing cabinet.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Okay? Filing cabinet through it. And he goes, it was a Saturday. So then his dad pulls out the phone and he goes, what day of the week was May 2nd, 1987? And he was like, Saturday. I'm like, holy shit. Am I getting worked right now? Is this doing it?
Starting point is 01:33:04 So I go, December 25th, 2024. Try to fuck him a little bit. Because it's not in the history. It's future. You know what I mean? So he said any day in history. And the guy, same exact, Austin, same exact move, the eyes. And he goes, it's a Wednesday.
Starting point is 01:33:18 I'm like, you're damn right. There's NFL football in Austin. Let's never, ever forget it. He was maybe the smart, like in that particular world. The talent. I've never seen anything like the smart, like in that particular world. The talent. I've never seen anything like that. Just the history of the world. Now, I assume there's like square roots and all these things that you could potentially dive into.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Or there's some sort of theory. That was as soon as we landed at the airport waiting for autographs. I was there 25 minutes asking dates. Just trying to figure it out. Trying to catch them. Was right every time. There's people with super brains out there. Legit.
Starting point is 01:33:42 I've heard some different people that have stuff like that. Or they have like crazy, weird memories where they can remember all kind of numbers and equations and all of that. Yeah, it's safe to say I don't have any of that
Starting point is 01:33:51 in my brain, no question. I did say that we need to get him to a blackjack table. Stat. I said we need to get him to a blackjack table. Does he have any other cool tricks like that
Starting point is 01:33:59 that he could do or is it always this date in history, Conman? We just kind of hammered the date in history. Kind of hammered the date in history. Kind of hammered the date in history. And he nailed it 100%. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Who are the two SOC teams that are playing right now? We've got Hashtag United taking on another team. I don't know if you remember here. What's the score? What half is it? It is 1-0. The home team is the second half with 16-40 left. The clock ticks away.
Starting point is 01:34:23 It goes quick. How did Cincinnati score seven goals on JJ's team? That's a lot. Counterattack, he said. Yeah, they countered the shit out of him. What does that mean? What happened to us? So, we were down 1-0. So, we came out with an idea. Okay, we're going to press
Starting point is 01:34:37 a little bit because they can just sit back, park the bus. You heard Gumpy talk about it. Oh, yeah, cagey. That creates a cagey affair, yeah, because it just gets sticky in the back. So we attack, and then you give away a ball. You got four people up. All of a sudden, they're coming back the other way, and you only got two people. So they countered the shit out of us back-to-back.
Starting point is 01:34:55 I mean, that was like it was 1-0, then it was 3-0 in a matter of a minute and a half. Your goalie is a big part of it, too, up around the 50-yard line, whatever you call it, in soccer. So if he gets caught, you're done. There's no one in goal. This is a brilliant concept. It's awesome. It is a brilliant. The whole tournament's awesome.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Yeah, like even the whole entire, like, what's the word I'm looking for? All the fields together. The complex. I didn't expect it to have, like, the fans. Well, you know who it is. Who's that? Kratz. Yeah, I'm still out on Kratz.
Starting point is 01:35:22 No, Kratz has a lot on his plate. Yeah, no, I heard. I heard. Kratz. I got to, Kratz has a lot on his plate. Yeah, no, I heard. I heard. Kratz, I got to meet Kratz yesterday. Great handshake. Good accent. Brought on a crew with him named Hunter. And he was like, oh, my friend sent a clip, obviously.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Heard what you said. I'm like, Kratz, I woke up this morning and the only problems I heard were from a guy named Kratz. Literally. Now, obviously, every other problem I had, too, in my life at that exact time was happening. But anything that was happening down here for months of planning was like, Kratz won't let us do this. Kratz won't let us do that. Kratz won't let us do that.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Kratz was like, that's not true at all. This conversation has been going on for a couple weeks. I'm like, ah, Kratz, this is one of those shooting before aiming. Sure. Shooting before aiming type situation. And I certainly do apologize about that. I don't know if you've seen this. The Utah Jazz have debuted brand new uniforms.
Starting point is 01:36:04 What? Ryan Smith is in his creative bag out there in Utah. The Mormons refuse to use the name Soakers or Earthquakers on anything, which none of us make sense. None of us fully understand. Look at the new kits. Utah Jazz
Starting point is 01:36:18 got a hockey team in town. Now they're starting to take over. Ryan Smith owes it all. Ryan Smith, big time, new school. Let's be creative. Let's do this entire thing. I feel like they're going to have over. Ryan Smith owes it all. Ryan Smith, big time, new school. Let's be creative. Let's do this entire thing. I feel like they're going to have new kits probably every single year. The new kits aren't always a home run, though, Conman. No, no.
Starting point is 01:36:34 Those ones are kind of awesome because it's almost a hat tip to the old ones. Like, they're bringing back the mountains. It's not like the one on the right side here in the middle with the Jazz logo. They went to that and then just did, like, the yellow neon letters. Like, that wasn't really what the Utah Jazz, at least we knew, all about. With John Stockton dribbling up to the top of his head. But these are unbelievable. Need more of the throw.
Starting point is 01:36:54 What did you say John Stockton dribbled to the top of his head? You're saying they were playing lesser basketball back in the day? Hey, look, I'm a huge Stockton guy. I love the way he plays ball. Love all of his assistive skills. I also love his views on a lot of things, which has got him into hot water with the Gonzaga team when he got banned with season tickets. But again, John Stockton
Starting point is 01:37:12 is a one-of-one human being, and those jerseys also are regarded as one of the best sets of jerseys an NBA has. Big news in the NFL, contract extensions for the general manager and the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Andrew Berry, friend of mine, obviously a guy that we hoped would become the youngest Contract extensions for the general manager and the head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Andrew Barry, friend of mine, obviously a guy that we hoped would become the youngest general manager in the history of the NFL and take the Indianapolis Colts job.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Instead, we didn't even interview him. Then a couple years later, he goes to Cleveland. Everybody says, who's this? Well, he played at Harvard. He's a football guy. He knows the locker room, and he's a genius. Now, he did have to pay $230 million guaranteed to a quarterback that we don't know if he's ever going to get back to the form of being a $230 million quarterback.
Starting point is 01:37:50 But he and Stefanski, big brains, seemingly having Cleveland rowing in the right direction. The Dog Pound's pumped about this. AJ, do you have a nice set of the pulse of the Dog Pound on if Stefanski and Andrew Barry are beloved by the Browns fans? I live in Ohio, so I'm around a decent amount of Browns fans. I think people like Stefanski. As long as you win. If you don't win, they don't.
Starting point is 01:38:13 What, Ty? If you come out and they don't win, then they hate you. It seems like every year we're talking or we're hearing from Browns fans basically saying, like, hey, this guy sucks, okay? Like, they lose a game in October and everyone's done with Stefanski. And I think he's one coach of the year, like two out of the last three years. It's like, this guy's kind of unbelievable. But the expectations for the Browns, it seems like.
Starting point is 01:38:33 I mean, they're dealing with Super Bowl or bust expectations. You put that on the Houston Texans earlier. Well, I had to. That's real. Didn't have a choice because, you know, the way CJ's been talking. And I did mention the Packers. You obviously were talking about the Chiefs because it's kind of one of those things where, hey, guess what?
Starting point is 01:38:47 We can have all these conversations about, hey, this team's unbelievable. The Browns are unbelievable. The Bengals are unbelievable. Colts are unbelievable. Colts are unbelievable. People are having a convo. People are having those conversations. I've had that convo every f***ing day. With yourself or with other people? Well, the wife. Okay.
Starting point is 01:39:04 There you go. And you can have those. Pam McKenzie, 13 months old. Did she say bullshit as well? No, she agreed. She said, well. When's the last time a Browns coach got an extension? Hey, congrats, Stefanski. That's a good question.
Starting point is 01:39:16 I don't remember. Hugh Jack City obviously did not get one. Patton did not get one. Who was the guy? Freddie Kitchens. Freddie Kitchens did not get one. Mangini? I don't think Freddie Kitchens did not get one. Mangini? I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:39:27 They ran his ass off. This is a big deal. Yeah, like you get an extension as a Browns head coach? That doesn't happen. Congrats, Taffeta. Hey, way to go. They should be very happy in Cleveland. Yeah, they should be very excited.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Got a little bit of consistency for the first time in the history of the program since selling it and leaving it to Baltimore. Speaking of money, let's talk about it. The NBA, $76 billion deal finalized amongst Amazon, ESPN, and NBC. TNT, Adam Silver, obviously had been negotiating this deal for a couple years. I think even whenever he was out joining us during All-Star Week, and that was kind of, I don't want to say near done, but they've been trying to get at this for a long time. TV deals are a massive backbone for any league, including TSD here down in ESPN.
Starting point is 01:40:09 But the conversation around this is, okay, ESPN's in. Amazon gets another sport. Congrats to them. Here we go. Because people don't know this. Amazon was in, I think, on Big Ten. Amazon was in on other stuff. And leagues weren't going with Amazon because I think they weren't 100% sure whether or not, not having a linear channel with the amount of people that are still watching television.
Starting point is 01:40:28 Was it enough? Was it a disadvantage? Amazon picks up the NBA. That's big for them and for the future of streaming sports for Amazon. And then NBC getting back into the game in a big way. NBC lost hockey. Obviously, we know that. Now they have all the off-season shit, pretty much.
Starting point is 01:40:43 Any race you want to watch, it's happening. Anything taking place that isn't football, you're turning on NBC. Now they get the NBA, and obviously ESPN, I assume, is the biggest contributor to this, but $76 billion over the next 11 years. The NBA people got to be pumped and inevitably, I'll be excited to see how
Starting point is 01:41:00 it all evolves into making it a very profitable operation for all parties. Yeah, it's awesome for everyone that got in on this. What is TNT doing? Turner just got a college football playoff. Right, but that's all they have. I mean, during the
Starting point is 01:41:16 NBA season, the NBA carries TNT. Hockey. Well, hockey too. I guess they do have hockey, but obviously there's one more year, but you would think with how successful inside the NBA was and all that kind of stuff, the TNT would have done whatever they could have to make sure that it's not going anywhere because it was. That was one of their cash cows. They get all their Emmys from it and all that kind of stuff, and now it's just like...
Starting point is 01:41:40 Charles is kind of talking about how he has no relationship with the guy who's running it, and like, they kind of didn't keep them abreast of anything that was going on. It was kind of just like, hey, listen, sorry, you guys aren't going to be back after next year. Like, it's just crazy that TNT didn't do more to try to kind of keep this relationship going. And if Charles and them were to make the show their own
Starting point is 01:42:00 thing and then license it itself, that's a lot of conversations that have to take place, a lot of egos that have to get put aside yeah you know because you got 10 quarterbacks you got no quarterback right will they be able to do that we shall see obviously everybody's hoping for it but there is a chance at tnt even though they haven't been really communicative with the stars there's a chance that it remains on there you know sure and then they broadcast digitally too they kind of open up the licenses but i'm thinking everybody's hoping that ESPN signs them. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:42:27 NBC's probably hoping to God that they get inside the NBA. For sure. I mean, and Ernie said he's going to stick with TNT. I think that's until maybe somebody says, hey, Ernie, this is what. Until he gets a deal. Don't we want to keep the legacy of the institution together? And if it does just pick up and go to another channel, I think that's one of those shows everybody will just, yeah. Just pick it up.
Starting point is 01:42:44 We will go watch it no matter what. Amazon getting into basketball will be interesting. We're going to see all new broadcast crews going to Amazon. What if Charles and them all of a sudden, we pick it up over there? Amazon has a lot of money, obviously. That's what everybody thinks. But do they actually? They haven't been able
Starting point is 01:42:59 to win a lot of bidding wars that they've gotten into. I'm not going to say us involved because I would be acting like ours is worth something that is going. Amazon has not just emptied the clip for everything yet. Now, they try to get in with the Big Ten. There's a lot of chaos
Starting point is 01:43:16 and controversy. Soccer's pretty dramatic. There's a lot of... We thought a guy broke a leg during your game and then he stood up and walked off. Five career enders, I thought. And then they got up and scored a goal. There's a lot of dramatics and
Starting point is 01:43:31 theatrics. Oh, yeah. Are you trying to sell it so the ref gets a yellow card or red card to a buddy? Is that what you're doing? I think you're certainly trying to sell everything to benefit your team. It's like flopping benefits. So if it's doing a benefit and you do it, you might as well. Like NBA. But the subbing is a big...
Starting point is 01:43:47 How does that work? How does the subbing work? You cannot go on the field until the person comes off. If you do, you're red carded. Dang. You've got to red card your band. See you later. So you've got to time it up.
Starting point is 01:43:56 That's something you've got to practice where you're running by the sideline when it's time to sub you. But there's only a subbing area. It's like this big. So you've got to pass each other. So there's a lot of goals scored, I'm guessing, during the subbing for teams. That's when you get an advantage. To be transparent, if we're doing a post-game press conference,
Starting point is 01:44:11 and I'm not a part of any of the preparation or strategy or any of it, so this is me talking about something that I've not helped at all or benefited, we really fucked up the subbing. I mean, that was a real... Hard to practice that. Yeah, hard to practice live subbing. I mean, that was... G time. Hard to practice that. Yeah, hard to practice live subbing. I mean, that was...
Starting point is 01:44:27 Gump just said back here he was not happy with the subbing. Okay, so Coach Gump's also... He should be running the box. Dude, it's like... First of all, we had five... It's six and a goalie. Yep. We had five guys on the field multiple times. That's not good. Can't have it. That's Notre Dame football.
Starting point is 01:44:43 You can't have less people on the field than you should have or need to have. Can't have that. Then, on the flip side, we had seven guys on one time in a goalie. So that's eight on seven. And the regular Rovers knew way before we did. Oh, yeah. We had no idea. The regular Rovers were pointing out.
Starting point is 01:45:00 It was like, I got seven, I got seven, I got seven. And I'm like looking. I know we don't. Oh, yeah, we definitely do. By God, we do. And then just like, I got seven, I got seven, I got seven. And I'm like looking. I know we don't. Oh, yeah, we definitely do. By God, we do. And then because it's soccer. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:45:10 Was that filthy? Oh, my God, that was filthy. Oh, no, we missed it. It was top right corner, top eight. Oh, my God, that was unbelievable. We missed it. Absolute firecracker off the right boot. A true firecracker. Oh, we missed it.
Starting point is 01:45:24 That guy's like 6'8". Dude, it was a missile. It was four. You're talking about the goalie? It basically hit the TSD yellow thing right there. That had to feel so good. See, that's what we're talking about, just one of those. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:36 But you get back to Amazon. They were bidding, I think, for a lot of things. They just weren't getting it? People were picking, going other places. And you mentioned ESPN is a big partner. I don't know if that's still the same thing, but people were. That was a real thing. How does that get divvied up between the three of them?
Starting point is 01:45:50 That's all negotiated. That's all after the fact? What games are Amazon? What games are ESPN? How do we know that? They said Sunday night basketball. That will be evolving, won't it? Because if you want to be able to pick your games, if you're the ESPN, you're the top dog.
Starting point is 01:46:02 I'm taking Steph Curry. You guys can have these other guys. All that stuff is negotiated, though, like preference on games and how many games. They negotiate probably who gets to pick first when it comes to. Do they get days? Because a lot of the times, like, that's how the ESPN TNT thing was, is that, like, ESPN had Wednesdays and Fridays. And because they're talking about NBC, their big sell was like, hey,
Starting point is 01:46:22 we're going to bring back Sunday Night Basketball on NBC with the old da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah, like. Yeah. All right. Quadruple. Yep. We got a new marketplace all of a sudden. Yeah, truly.
Starting point is 01:46:51 Amazon's in business with them. ESPN's in business with them. NBC's in business with them. CBS. CBS is not in business with the NBA, but they could get into the business of the NBA. Live sports are always going to be worth money. That's just how it goes. I saw some people complaining about this TST. I guess last year it was on YouTube. Now it's only on ESPN+.
Starting point is 01:47:08 There's a lot of people calling it a sellout, just like we got. It was nice to see somebody else get called a sellout. I got called it a lot. TST got called a sellout because it's all on ESPN+. I don't think ESPN would have an issue if this was going out on YouTube either, right? Probably not. Or ESPN2. This is
Starting point is 01:47:24 awesome. The games are sweet. Yes, like that goal that, unfortunately, I only saw and you guys missed, that was unbelievable. I heard it. Yeah, I heard it. It was filthy. Do they have commentators?
Starting point is 01:47:34 I do believe, yeah, it's Hercules and there's the other guy. James Gomez? Yeah, I think so. Is that his name? I believe so. Taylor Twelverman? Taylor Twelverman's on Apple, which leads me to Apple's only gotten in with soccer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:48 Apple, I guess they did baseball too, right? They want the big sports. Are they not stepping up to the table? I wonder why they haven't kind of gotten into the whole thing. Do they just get run out? Obviously, they won if they got the most money. I'm just saying, do they reach a point where they're like, all right, we're not doing that? It's a lot. We think they should. I'm just saying, do they reach a point where they're like, alright, we're not doing that? It's a lot.
Starting point is 01:48:06 We think they should. I'm just saying. Is that their mindset? Yeah, do they understand? I don't know. Do the people at the top, do they really want sports as bad as other streamers? Yeah. Do you guys hear what happened in WNBA? No, what happened? Yeah. Not talking about it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:48:21 Also, Apple might... Oh, what a goal! What a goal! Is that an equalizer? No. Okay. Also, Apple might be. Oh, what a goal. What a goal. Is that an equalizer? No. No. It's a take the lead. That was one-on-one with the goalie. Just a cracker from about 20 out.
Starting point is 01:48:32 Like J.J. Watt. J.J., that was phenomenal. Dude. Seriously. I thought he actually had a chance to score there. Dude. He did. I had one time I subbed on, and I thought I was going to.
Starting point is 01:48:43 Yeah, you had a path. We saw. I did one of these. Yeah. We were filming. Th was going to. Yeah, you had a pass. We saw. I did one of these. We were filming. Threw your hand up like a boss. No, no. Didn't get the ball. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Wait, so you played about five minutes. Touched the ball one time. I was on a kickoff. What were your shifts? Good kickoffs. That's a good pass. I believe the pass. Were your shifts like 90 seconds?
Starting point is 01:48:59 How long were you on? I think they were trying to make them shorter while I was in there. It was like a minute and a half, I think. Minute 15. Minute 30. I stuck out there a little bit longer because I thought I was going to get the ball one time. I did not. You're open, but how did they sub you out?
Starting point is 01:49:14 You could just don't look to the sideline when they yell your name. I subbed me out. I subbed me out. There's a guy who's a real player named Zach who was coming in. When I would leave the field, he was coming on the field. He, actual player. So if I looked over the sideline, he was just standing there. He was like, alright.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Next time I can get to that, because I'm on the other side of the field sometimes. So if I just go and sub out while action's happening, massive advantage for the entire team. Huge. And goalies are playing on the field, so you've got defenders going up there. It's a full thing. I was back playing defense at one time. Did you see that?
Starting point is 01:49:43 I was hoping the Red Gate Rovers did not see. I was one-on-one with a guy. It was me and the net. That's it. It was like, I should not be here. I'm excited to watch the game at 7 p.m. tonight. I should not be here. All right, we're wrapping up here on ESPN. We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to be a part of your life here this afternoon. I have cramps in every muscle in my
Starting point is 01:50:00 body, so I'm going to try to figure that out the rest of the way. We'll be back tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their entire life. Isn't that real? Very real. Have a good one. We're in Cary, North Carolina. You should come visit here sometime. Cheers! TST!
Starting point is 01:50:15 How you be? Okay, I think we got it. No, no. Shows are over. Nobody can hear it. Nobody can hear it. Thank God. How you guys doing, man? I want to let you know I tried to stand up a couple times. Both of them.
Starting point is 01:50:31 No dice. Right now they're currently feeling like they're both bruised. But if it wasn't for this incredible grass. We're talking about a whole different world. Beautiful grass. It is fantastic. Are you guys here for You shouldn't have done that
Starting point is 01:50:49 That was a bad idea I saw them marketing that and I thought to myself We should not be telling people to be coming here for this particular program We should be coming for the soccer Are you guys soccer fans though? No No Hey what's your name man
Starting point is 01:51:04 My name's Eddie, bro. Eddie, that's a good name, Eddie. You got a good name. Good vibes, too. I need you right now. Eddie's a dog. Eddie is a dog. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:11 I hopped in this thing earlier. I was like, damn, this is real cold. Yeah, it was not nice. It was really, really, really cold. How about this stage? We rented this thing. Unbelievable. I don't know how it sounds.
Starting point is 01:51:20 In my ears, I'm in an auditorium. Okay. So that is how everybody sounds in my ears i don't know how it sounds it's haven't really hurt me a little bit you sound great yeah you guys all sound great okay so it sounds like all the work that's been done by you know tim zito paddlebag nick foxy bruce bruce bruce brown yeah utility player yeah exactly five tools Bruce. Bruce. Bruce Brown. Yeah. Utility player. Yeah, exactly. Five tools, I would say. Great work. Foss was here.
Starting point is 01:51:47 Great work, boys. Great work. Dave, the stage and his family. Dave. They're talkative, but they've got a great stage. Hey, we didn't get Foss in the game tonight. Foss was in the game this morning. Did you see it?
Starting point is 01:51:58 I heard he didn't get any time. He went in? No, is that real? He did not play? I don't think he did. We did not see Foss. He said he took a run, but we did He did not play? I don't think he did. We did not see Fox. He said he took a run, but we did not see him once. I'm calling him right now.
Starting point is 01:52:08 What do you mean he did not go in? I don't think he touched feet on grass. He went in when I got here. So Tony Miola, Coach Tony Miola, does a full breakdown on what the subbing is, who's going in for what. And as soon as the game stops, a name that I had not heard in my proficiency. Hey, did you play today at all? We're live.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Fox is this. Yeah, I played for about 45 seconds. I tried to kick it to you and it went to the goalie. Oh no, you hit a good ball though. That was on me. I couldn't get up and get it. Okay. Okay. I saw what was happening
Starting point is 01:52:39 and the moment wasn't right. That's good. But tonight's your night, pal. Wait, we had a good team talk. Okay. Okay, hold on. We're live right now. Can you please update me, owner of Concave FC,
Starting point is 01:52:54 what general managers and head coaches are saying to the team? Gumpy has some thoughts as well. We will relay them to you. Foss, what was the messaging to the team today, in between games one and two here on this beautiful Cary, North Carolina Wednesday. We just got to be better organized. We got to be better organized.
Starting point is 01:53:11 We're going to change up the formation a little bit and we're going to make it a little bit easier for us to just play ball. We forgot how to play ball. What? Wait, what? Who gave the speech? Who gave the speech? Was it you or Tony Miola? Tony did about
Starting point is 01:53:28 90% of the talking. And then I told everybody to sit on the bench so we could actually sound like normal people. Okay, so we got to sit on bench and say, okay, this is logistical. This is FOSS football. Yeah, bingo. This is FOSS
Starting point is 01:53:44 football. Foss football. Yeah, bingo. This is Foss football. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Foss football, TM, is let's make sure that we don't put 10 players on the field, the proper number of players, and more speed, more speed. Eddie, Eddie speed. We need Eddie speed to get here. Yeah, more Eddie speed. All right.
Starting point is 01:54:06 All right, thank you, F Speed. All right. All right. Thank you, Foss. Great speech. He was still talking. Yeah. Yeah. All right. For us, I'm going to get an actual IV.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Nice. Yeah, good move. That'll help a lot. Get them fluids up. Get an actual IV. I think they're pumping vitamins into me, too. Oh, awesome. Yeah, you can put a bunch of shit in that.
Starting point is 01:54:21 You should put some other stuff in there, too. I've never done that before. Oh, it's awesome. You're going to feel great. They say too. I've never done that before. Oh, it's awesome. You're going to feel great. They say they can put Tordal in it. A lot of those places. Yeah. It says Tordal.
Starting point is 01:54:29 For real. What? Tell them about Tordal. Yes. Holy shit. Let me know. I might come with you. What are the odds for me to score tonight?
Starting point is 01:54:39 Eddie. Eddie, Eddie, Eddie, Eddie. Right now we're talking about it. Can I stand up? You know. Yeah, but Eddie, you look amazing. Eddie, I love you, Eddie. Right now we're talking about it. Can I stand up? You know, Eddie, you look amazing. Eddie, I love you, Eddie. Eddie, you do not look 41. No way you're 40. Eddie, you look 27, Eddie.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Eddie, baby, Eddie. Eddie, where are you? You're from here? He's grounded. Perfect. Okay, there's a lot of people that are going to say that. I got an IV thing. We will certainly tomorrow. Certainly tomorrow. Yep.
Starting point is 01:55:07 Eddie, your juice is what we need. Gumpy, you hear Eddie's juice right there? Gumpy, how come you're not bringing this type of juice to Concave Fasces Bench? Need you, coach. Coach? Boston, let the hair down. Eddie does have the juice. I mean, there's some changes that are going to have to be made tonight to get this thing over the top.
Starting point is 01:55:28 I don't agree with what Floss was saying, but we can see that for another day. We got a little disarray. Wow. I'm telling you, there's a lot of dramatics in soccer, bro. We don't need guys sitting on the bench. You got to stay loose. Oh, no. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:55:42 You guys are screwed. Philosophies are completely crossed right now. Tony Robbins in here or something to figure this out. Glad he is Tony Robbins. You hear this guy? Good point. It's 41. I'm calling Foss back. Here's Foss.
Starting point is 01:55:53 I see him. I'm looking at him right now. You need a united front, Gumpy. Foss, come up here, pal. Foss. We got a headset here for you. I'm in a cold tub. Could you imagine if Foss was walking through and I just sniped him in the head with this
Starting point is 01:56:04 thing right here? Foss is dead. Are you kidding me? Coming up here. Foss is the GM and coach of Concava SC. And he's dead. Bang! Way to go, Foss. And he's fucking dead. Way to make this all happen. We got a headset for you there on that
Starting point is 01:56:22 seat that's wet because J.J. Watt utilized it for his actual recovery. Take a seat. I was in there. It was cold. Actually cold. Toes couldn't handle it. You can move that towel, I think, a little. Yep. Perfect. Fosso, thank you for everything you've done. Not just here, but everywhere. Cheers.
Starting point is 01:56:39 Fosso, Jumpy disagrees with everything you said, pretty much. Jump, would you like to run this back for Fosso and Coach Miola maybe about your thoughts on what they just said about what we need to do tonight? I thought we were going 2-2-2. What happened to the formation today? The plan was a 2-2-2 today.
Starting point is 01:56:56 It didn't work if you watch the game. Oh! Oh, shit! We're just having guys stand on the wings, just no one in the middle? Was that the plan? So that was the adjustment during lunch. We're going to have a dedicated...
Starting point is 01:57:11 We don't want to give it away. No, not too much. But what about what Gumby's big problem was, which I was definitely alluding to, not the formation change that Gumby wants to make change, which I think certainly had the conversation. Gumby watched a lot of footy. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:57:24 He said, sitting on the bench, what are we talking about? Boy, you got to stay warm. Boy, he's going to stay warm. Ain't that right, Gumby? Did I get it accurately described too far, so? Spot on, brother. Spot on. Coach Gumby, by the way. He's right.
Starting point is 01:57:36 We got 13 guys not playing. So you're prioritizing the guys that got to get warm, Gumby, right? No? Maybe a couple of healthy scratches. I think that might be the case. I think that might be the case. I think that might be the case. Game two, we're already healthy scratching.
Starting point is 01:57:55 A lot of helpers, a lot of logistical helpers. Okay, did we have that conversation? That's not an easy conversation. Who had that conversation? Who delivered the message? Not you, Foss. You've got to play. You're not healthy scratching yourself, are you?
Starting point is 01:58:06 Hey, we all need to play a role. I think what we learned in the first game was everybody was trying to be a hero, right? Sometimes you've just got to execute. Wow. I think this is great. We see Gumpy could play. We need more players. We need another one.
Starting point is 01:58:23 Swing the other way. Yeah, more players. It shows you how hard it is to win, though. We did try with nine We need another one. Swing the other way. More players. It shows you how hard it is to win, though. We did try with nine on the field. That Reggae Rovers team, they knew what they were doing. I guess the Cincinnati team, very good at counters. Seven of them. To Burnley FC.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Have we talked about the counters? Because the counters beat us, too. Yeah, we're looking to sit in a little bit. Drawing that high line. We need to score goals. On defense, on defense, We're looking to sit in a little bit. Okay. Drawing that high line. We need to score goals. Drop it back. I love hearing these guys. Coach, we need to score some fucking goals. On defense, on defense, point of contention. We need to dump rubber. By the POC.
Starting point is 01:58:52 I don't know how to say this, but we need to dump some rubber. All night long. Dump rubber. I'm dumping rubber all night. Pucks on net. Did you guys talk at all about, hey, how are we going to unlock Eddie Speed? Oh, we did. Got to unlock him.
Starting point is 01:59:03 Eddie Speed is ready. He's got his Hyper Ice boots on right now. Lean him back. He looks like this. Oh, we did. Gotta unlock him. Eddie Speed is ready. He's got his hyper-ice boots on right now. Lean him back. He looks like this. We got him fed. He's ready. He's looking tan. Did you tell him, like, hey, we need you here?
Starting point is 01:59:14 We need Speed. Yeah. We talked to a ball boy who's got some really good ideas for you, too. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Like an 11-year-old kid who was like, I mean, what you guys are doing? You're not hitting the outsides. Everyone's kind of staying still.
Starting point is 01:59:24 Was there a talk about movement? Everybody was outside. We did think maybe we should move a little bit. Okay. That did come up. I would just like to say that I do feel like I saw some good runs and good movement made by a lot of different players, but then different moments, everybody's just kind of staying still,
Starting point is 01:59:39 looking for somebody else to make a play. Speaking of making plays, Breck Shea will make them. We're running him. We're running Breck dry tonight. Is that right? Breck's ready to go. Yeah, he was the first one off in overtime. Didn't like that. Can't have that happen.
Starting point is 01:59:51 I don't know why Breck's coming off. Do you see how cool he looks? He's tall, skinny, cool, tatted, just like absolute dog. Great hair. Paul Creed on his calf. Yeah, and that left calf creates an absolute missile. He hit a volley, missed the net, but didn't see another shot at him.
Starting point is 02:00:06 We need Breck's shape. How many shots on goal do we have tonight today, Foss? Are we counting my slow lob? Yeah, that counts. Out there. Touch shot. Three. Steph hit one.
Starting point is 02:00:15 Let's get about 18. Steph hit a missile. How do we feel about Steph? I like Steph a lot. Steph's a dog. He's a weapon. Put him in net full time. He made some amazing saves and then scored your goal.
Starting point is 02:00:23 I have a question. Should I move to the back? No. Yeah, I don't think so. Go him in net full time. He made some amazing saves and then scored your goal. I have a question. Should I move to the back? No. Yeah, I don't think so either. Go score goals. Play attack. But I think whenever we go target time, it is nice to be back here. That's where I can launch one.
Starting point is 02:00:37 Now, I don't know if I'm playing tonight. It might be a healthy scratch this evening against the Cincinnati team, who I heard can run pretty good. And we've got a big game tomorrow. Huge one. A big game tomorrow. Everything on the line. But I touched the ball one time.
Starting point is 02:00:50 We're still in it. One loss. How many teams go through? Three? So the top two guaranteed, and then the top eight third-place teams go as well. Oh, so like the third spot's a wild card spot. Low wild card. Goal differential, though, working in our favor right now.
Starting point is 02:01:05 Thanks to Burnley. Thank you, Burnley. Well, I mean, hopefully you're not competing against Burnley for that last spot. No, we will be. Right now we are. So the third place doesn't go into a pool with all the other groups. It is the top three of your group. You have to finish third in your group to be in the running.
Starting point is 02:01:21 In a pool. Market time. We just had a winner. Hashtag United goes down to team they were playing against. How about the vibes here, Foss? Unbelievable. The nostalgia. We were talking about it last night.
Starting point is 02:01:35 Kids are like, dudes are like cheering and then like celebrating. They had to feel like they're back. A lot of guys played a lot of ball at this tournament. A lot of talent. There's a million dollar bounty. Yeah. Like there's a lot of people trying to get it. It's a cool tournament. You've done a lot of ball at this tournament. A lot of talent. There's a million dollar bounty. Yeah. Like, there's a lot of people trying to get it. It's a cool tournament.
Starting point is 02:01:47 You've done a great job, Faso. Appreciate you, buddy. No problem. This dude number four hit a rocket earlier. This dude number four hit a rocket. Hey, that was a rocket. Yep, yep, him. Oh, great.
Starting point is 02:01:58 Is this camera right here? Yep, yep. That's right. Congratulations, boys. Congratulations. That's the Raleigh Rebels. That's the Raleigh Rebels. Their cameraman standing in front of them doing the gritty to celebrate.
Starting point is 02:02:13 Number four had an absolute cracker. Yeah. Screamer. This team might be a real squad here. We need to keep an eye out. Who are the teams that we're expecting to win, Faso? I think Zala. My pick is Zala. They've got a great squad.
Starting point is 02:02:26 Great squad. What the fuck? To advance, right? We're just talking about advancing. Concava's advancing. I'm thinking the teams that stand out. Maybe you need to turn your frowns upside down. We only have one game this morning.
Starting point is 02:02:40 I saw a lot of people mad this morning. It's like, yo, what are we doing? It's one game. We thought we were going to beat the regular rivers. I had that one jotted down as a loss for us. I didn't like that that was the early draw. I did not like that as the first game. But I did appreciate the fact that we're going to be able to learn.
Starting point is 02:02:54 We're going to be able to move on. We're going to be able to experience a preseason game, which nobody else is going to be able to experience. The Natty game matters. The Burnley game is big. We get into the dance. We're dancing. We're getting better.
Starting point is 02:03:05 I didn't like how distraught everybody was. A lot of pot. There was a lot of pot immediately afterwards. But I do appreciate how emotional they were. I do appreciate how emotional they were. Soccer's pretty dramatic. Boys want to win. Boys want to win.
Starting point is 02:03:17 Anytime you lose, it's a bad day. You guys are still going in different directions, though. You are having a public argument with Goofy, the head coach. I think it was a meeting of minds. Are we going 2-2-2? Are we sitting on the bench? What are we doing? We need to get this stuff figured out before the game. It's fair.
Starting point is 02:03:30 It's fair. But conflict is good. Mike McCarthy's conflict is good. 100%. Conflict is good. And Gump's got a brilliant mind. So we're going to have a meeting of minds. Hey, you guys call it a great game.
Starting point is 02:03:40 It's going to be great. You guys call it a great game. Good work, Purple. I want to see you in the game, though, Faso. I do, too. Okay. Why didn't you play? Just run out too many cooks in the kitchen?
Starting point is 02:03:51 I think there was a lot of cooks in the kitchen. A lot of cooks at midfield trying to get on the field, you know? Sure. And I think as you're looking, as you're surveying, how can I help this situation? And it was by sitting my ass on the bench and letting it happen. Nah, that wasn't a help. Foss on the field.
Starting point is 02:04:07 They need you. I mean, he hit that ball in. I mean, it was what? If I was a little bit more athletic, I'd probably get that. Skim that in. We just got to calibrate. They pulled me off right after, though. So, second ball.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Kept the chemistry. What's Miola doing? What's he think? Let's ask him. Where's his dry erase board? Is he on dry erase board? Yeah. He went hardcore on the dry erase board.
Starting point is 02:04:25 He broke down some movements, some tactics. Pulling his hair out like, I gotta fucking figure this shit out! I'm pretty bummed out. I'm pretty bummed out that I didn't get a chance to see this post-game meeting. Yeah. Legit, anybody film it? No. Of course.
Starting point is 02:04:38 No. Why would they? How am I supposed to learn? Close doors meeting. Oh, no. We're not doing players only meeting already. Uh oh. Oh no, get some reggae rovers! Uh oh. They already sent us into a players only meeting already. Oh no, against the regular owners? They already sent us into a players only
Starting point is 02:04:48 meeting? I don't love that. Yikes. I do gotta catch up. We're getting the IVs. IVs are ready to go. We're getting recovered. We got a big game tonight. We're ready. We're ready. You got any fucking Bojangles around here? I've seen a few Bojangles. Yeah, about a quarter mile that way. Last night we were looking.
Starting point is 02:05:03 We didn't see a single fast food place, but we saw beautiful plazas everywhere. Yeah. It's a very nice town. It's amazing. Cary's gorgeous. Very, very, very nice town. A lot of money invested in this town. Weather, too.
Starting point is 02:05:15 Like, it was pretty hot, but underneath this thing is awesome, and it didn't rain today. Yeah, is it hot out there? It doesn't feel that hot in here. It's a little hot out there. It's going to be perfect at 7, though. It's going to be perfect at 7. They're saying it's hot as shit. Yeah, it is hot as shit.
Starting point is 02:05:26 Okay. Okay. Okay. Hey, we've been sitting in the... Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I do apologize. I did pick up a second-degree burn this morning. They're probably on my face.
Starting point is 02:05:34 We'll find out tonight. I like that you have the fans. I like that we're prepared. I appreciate what you've done for this entire thing. I appreciate you. Let's go win a game tonight. We got it. Yeah, boy.
Starting point is 02:05:41 We got it. We're ready. Did Ocho play? I don't know. He did? Awful. He hustled? Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:05:49 Awful. He is not awful. This guy's saying awful? I think I have a Cincinnati tarp on. I don't think so. I've seen Chad play. Thumbs down is what this guy's saying. Oh, this guy wants to play.
Starting point is 02:05:58 Yeah. He wants to play. Oh, yeah. There you go. That's an angle. There's an angle. I wouldn't sleep on Chad. Chad looks like he can play from what I watch.
Starting point is 02:06:03 Chad plays FIFA, so he knows the game. You know, and he's in great shape. He's always going to be in great shape, so you assume he's going to do well. Did you see JJ strike? Yeah. He had his opportunity. That was it. He had his opportunity.
Starting point is 02:06:15 I don't know if the Reggae Rubbers are going to give him one. No way. They played 630 tonight. I want to watch some of it right before you guys. Absolutely. You found yourself in good spots, though. A couple times. We've got to find you. We've got to find you of it right before you guys. Absolutely. You found yourself in good spots, though. We got to find you.
Starting point is 02:06:25 We got to find you. You had a good feel. That was the one thing where I felt okay. It was right there. I think I got to go. Okay, I think I got to. This looks. How can I get the ball right now?
Starting point is 02:06:36 Is really the only question you're asking yourself. That's a lot of football stuff, dude. A lot of the angles and all of it. Seeing the field. Find the open space. Yeah. Well, like if you're a wide receiver,, the guy who has the ball is the quarterback. How the fuck do I get to a place where the guy can give me the ball?
Starting point is 02:06:49 Which is pretty much the whole conversation. It gets so congested. Your job is so hard because there's usually three behind you and there's two in front of you. So you've got to find the gaps. Everybody else, it's nice and easy to swing side to side. We didn't find the ball today. Just kickoff. Open and kickoff.
Starting point is 02:07:04 I delivered that thing. You got your legs underneath. You know what to expect here. We know what the games are. Scarf's completely on the ground. No, no. Yeah, it's got one thing. One thing. Son of a bitch. That's where we were this morning.
Starting point is 02:07:19 We're hanging on just like that. But tonight we thrive. Tonight we fly. Tonight, Concava SC sets sail. People say Concava that must be a mistake from Concaca. No. It's a confederation of chill athletes footballing alongside each other. Soccer club.
Starting point is 02:07:36 Each other's silent obviously because it's already implied with alongside. And that's what Concava football is all about. And we're going to do it tonight. Come on. Let's go. We need you on the field. I'm ready to go. Who's playing goal tonight? I think we're going to alternate.
Starting point is 02:07:52 Okay. So call goals and goal to start. Take some shots from goal. Get Stefanovic back in the game. We need Stefanovic. Shoot the ball from goal. Think right back to begin. Get into the attack. Enough of the scheme. Let's justvich. Enough of the scheme. Let's just go play hard and shoot the ball.
Starting point is 02:08:06 Amen. Can we get Stefanovich? Please. Can we get Stefanovich in the game? He's a star. I think we can. The boy's a star. All right, we're out of here.
Starting point is 02:08:14 Incredible mullet, too. Thank you all for joining us. We'll be back tomorrow. I assume tomorrow I'm going to be a corpse. So tune in if you want. I would not, personally. That would be against my recommendations. But we got Ivies, we got Coltubs,
Starting point is 02:08:29 and we got Ocho Cinco's Cincinnati FC team at 7 o'clock tonight. And then tomorrow morning, do we have a game? Night game, Burnley, 7. Okay, boys. In the big stadium. Big stadium. What about tonight? It's out here?
Starting point is 02:08:42 Both games, big stadium under the lights. Oh, Natty's out over there? It's going to feel like a Thursday night in high school again. Hell yeah. What about tonight? It's out here? Both games. Big stadium under the lights. Oh, Natty's out over there? It's going to feel like a Thursday night in high school again. Hell yeah. Hey, man. Hell yeah. Miss those lights. Plugging boys of fall.
Starting point is 02:08:52 Is that when soccer plays on Thursdays? I think it's Tuesday, Thursday in high school, right? Yeah, I think you're right. That's the last time I've really played. Yeah? I mean, that's like 20 years ago. I'm 37 years old. So, like, the last time I played Played 20 years
Starting point is 02:09:06 Two decades ago That's nuts So I played a couple men's leagues Like in summer For the Plum team Plum My town has like a GPSL team
Starting point is 02:09:14 That I played for like Maybe The first two years Of my NFL career During the summer I come back And just drop into a tournament And I play like four games
Starting point is 02:09:21 Or whatever Be absolutely dead

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