The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1149 - Mike Florio, Austin Rivers, PK Subban, Bryson DeChambeau, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

On today’s show, Pat, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk, and the boys chat about the incredible sports weekend that saw both Edmonton and the Dallas Mavericks extending both the NBA Finals and Stanley Cup Finals, as well as an absolutely incredible US Open with Bryson DeChambeau holding off Rory McIlroy and winning his second major championship. Joining the show to chat about the current lawsuit going on with the NFL involving Sunday Ticket and what it means is the creator of Pro Football Talk, Mike Florio (19:28-34:21). Next, 12 year NBA veteran and ESPN NBA analyst Austin Rivers joins the show to chat about the NBA Finals, and why he thinks it’s imperative that the Celtics win tonight (40:32-56:03). Later, 13 year NHL veteran, 3x All-Star, and ESPN NHL analyst PK Subban chats about the Stanley Cup Finals, the Oilers staying alive, and why they played well enough to give some concern to the Panthers (1:11:14-1:26:51). Lastly, fresh off a US Open title at Pinehurst for his 2nd major championship and 2nd US Open title, LIV golf superstar and Captain of Crushers GC, Bryson DeChambeau joins the show to talk about his incredible weekend, why he’s so passionate about growing the game of golf, his new clubs, and much more (1:43:29-2:06:34). Make sure you subscribe to YouTube.com/thepatmcafeeshow to watch the show. Or watch on ESPN (12-2 EDT), ESPN’s Youtube (12-3 EDT), or ESPN+. We appreciate the hell out of all of you. We’ll see you tomorrow. Cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this magical overreaction Monday, June 17th, 2024. This program starts right now. Sports! Are wonderful and we're lucky to talk about them every single day. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do it and following along and listening and watching wherever the hell you may be, whether it's on ESPN, YouTube, ESPN Plus, or TikTok Live, which is still happening until, you know, they potentially shut it down or somebody needs to buy that thing ASAP. Hope you had a fantastic weekend. Hope you got a chance to celebrate the dads in your life. I hope you had the opportunity to watch the sports that took place because we

are in the middle of a magical time. I'm not alone. No, the toxic table is here at Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. I see you went back to the dog shirt because the Boston Celtics last week before game four. One that they would go on to lose by 38 points. Which would be a top four worst blowout in finals history. And a biggest blowout in Celtics final history on a must win for the Mavericks. The Boston Celtics were barking during the jog through or the walk through in the day of the game. You want back to the dogs? I think we need to

get rid of the dogs. They should have been meowing today to potentially get the sway back on their side as they could potentially end this thing and hang an 18th banner in Boston this evening. Yeah, I think the dogs more so in that sense on Friday was an underdog reference. I think today it's more so that sense on Friday was an underdog reference. I think today it's more so like, hey, we've got to be dogs.

We have to go back to what we were those first three games where obviously game three, game four, actual underdogs. But we need to just kind of get that dog mentality, if you will, to quote the great coach Nick Sirianni. Bring that back, and then let's see what happens. Well, we have Austin Rivers joining us in about 33 minutes. I cannot wait to hear what he has to say. Obviously, his brain is filled with magical things. I guess J.J. Redick is going to be the Lakers head coach, seemingly. That's how everybody's talking. As soon as these finals are over, that's going to take place. But what else is the storyline? Oh, is it Luka and Kyrie

going into Boston, making this thing 3-2? What? 3-3? What? Then there's a game, 7 potentially, and then you think about the NHL, half of the hammer Cowboys tone digs I don't know what the odds were For the Edmonton Oilers to win Eight to one Over the Florida Panthers In a must win game four Now both teams obviously hopping on a plane

Flying eight and a half hours down to South Florida For a game five matchup Between the Oilers and the Panthers Panthers up 3-1 I wonder what the odds were on that to take place. 8-1 probably, I don't know. Those are plus 2,000-ish odds. Probably similar odds to something else that happened this weekend.

But that being 8-1 and then 50-1 or 50-point loss by the Celtics. Those teams just wanted to get back home. That's all. They wanted to win in front of their home crowd. So we do have Game 5, not only in the NBA tonight, and then in hockey two days from now, I believe, tomorrow, I think. It is tomorrow night because the eight-hour travel, you take a break whenever you're shifting cities.

But game five is much better than two sweeps. And maybe there is a momentum shift happening in one of the two series. Maybe both of them there's a momentum shift. Maybe the Edmonton Oilers with Connor McDavid scoring a goal and having three assists and an eight one win reminds himself yeah i am the guy i can score goals and maybe he just starts slicing and dicing bob down in sunrise making this thing go to three two and once it gets to three two wait a minute you know what they say the most dangerous lead in hockey is? What's that? 3-1. What is the series right now? 3-1.

Let's go to diehard Florida Panther fan, Darius J. Butler. D-Butch, are we worried that this Edmonton Oilers team maybe woke up into the final series? Not one bit. Geez, 8-1. 8-1 by a touchdown. They got them all out of their system. 8-1. They're great.

They showed up on their home ice about damn time. But now we're going back home. We wanted to hoist Lord Stanley down in Sunrise, Florida on our ice. So I'm excited about this game. We will close out. I hope you guys close out tonight. Good luck. Because obviously the NBA and the NHL script writers,

they're kind of on the same page right now. So hoping for a Celtics victory and followed up by my Panthers. There was a lot of people that automatically assumed that the series would not be sweeps. Strictly because the amount of money that was spent to get these series by one particular network that our show is currently being licensed through at the moment. The amount of money that they were talking about potentially losing if both games were sweeps. You got game five, both series. Game six, botheps you got game five both series game six both series game seven buses we can classify those i would assume as the biggest grossing games of both of those sports why you spend the money on the entire league's tv rights is so that you get that moment

potentially now throughout the playoffs there's been a couple game sevens, obviously, in the NBA and in the NHL that have been magnifying and electrifying and everything. That's great. But in the finals, if there was two sweeps, boy, you're missing out on hundreds of millions of dollars in advertising probably. And obviously, ESPN doesn't have any say in anything, but I'm sure there's a lot of people celebrating the shit out of at least an extension of the game or the series by at least one game. Everybody seems to have leveled back out, though,

to your point about how, yeah, I mean, Panthers, I mean, that's just going to happen. You know, they're going to get one. It's the finals. They're a good team. They're representing the West. They're going to do that. In the NBA, it does sound like people are starting to say,

wait a minute, is this what the Mavericks needed? Are the Celtics dead? In the NHL, it's like Panthers are going to say, wait a minute, is this what the Mavericks needed? Are the Celtics dead? In the NHL, it's like Panthers are going to win that thing at home. Now the conversation I'm seeing is like, maybe the Celtics don't have this one. And I'm hearing you talk about being nervous a little bit. 8.30 tonight, tip-off on ABC. Game five of the NBA Finals.

Luka and Kyrie, six-and-a-half-point dogs taking on Lucky, that beautiful, tiny-ass leprechaun. Thank you. In the entire city of Boston alongside Tatum and Brown. Are you a little bit nervous for this one as well? It seems like there's more nerves coming from the Boston Celtics people and about that game than there is anywhere near the NHL game. Yeah, for sure.

I mean, now that we're this close, we being the Celtics, it is one of those things where you can taste it, you can feel it. All this stuff for these last five, six years where they couldn't get it done is kind of coming to a head right now, and hopefully we can get it done. But, yeah, I am a little nervous. But look at the entire thing. We saw stats, teams that lose in the NBA Finals since 2001 by 30-plus points. That next game they are 4-0 straight up, 4-0 against the spread.

You look at 16 years ago today, the Boston Celtics beat the Lakers to win Championship 17. Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett. Then you think about the historic loss that they had, biggest loss in Celtics franchise history in the finals. They went on to win that championship in 1984. And then, of course, the Celtics have never lost three straight games this entire season. It hadn't happened once. I think they lost back-to-back games three or four times, maybe.

So a lot of the things and stats that are obviously on everybody's sides in this sense are on the Boston Celtics' side. But yeah, you have to be a little nervous just because of who Luka Doncic is. But Kyrie, we've seen two Kyries. We've seen the Kyic is but Kyrie we've seen two Kyries we've seen the Kyrie in Boston and we've seen the Kyrie in Dallas and the Kyrie in Boston is much

different than the one in Dallas I'm not saying that you know he's going to go back to Boston and forget how to play because clearly game three and four he did come alive so there is that sense hey maybe he is finally riding this hot streak and that'll continue on in game five but look Jason Tatum took 10 shots on Friday. I think Jalen Brown took 14 shots. That's not going to happen again. They are going to get their shots. So Kristaps Porzingis, he didn't play in game four, obviously,

and he hasn't played since game two. So he's had a little bit more rest now too. So maybe he can get a little bit more minutes, not just kind of the standard, hey, we'll use them if you need to. Okay, so maybe tonight is the night that the Celtics piece it all together in front of that home crowd. I hope. I hope. It could be a fun evening, or it could get a little nervy.

You know, you start letting that thing slip away. And Big Mo, that exists. You make a lot of stats. Some stats people don't believe in momentum. That's a bunch of crap. You lose two straight, and then you start questioning yourself, maybe we're not cut out for this. Wait a second. Maybe we're not supposed

to win. And then Luka and Kyrie are like, yeah, they take his beer, and then they get his beer. And then now we're all the way back. We shall see. Big story of the weekend, though, in our eyes. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a U.S. Open champion for the second time in Bryson Deacon.

It was an electrifying Sunday for the U.S. Open. If you weren't watching, I mean, it came down to the final three holes. But it was a slugfest between DeChambeau. Jesus, why don't you just Jeez

Louise. Jeez Louise. You're all jacked up. I know. Friend of yours. But DeChambeau, Rory McIlroy, we're battling all Sunday. DeChambeau and his big baby face turn. How everybody's a fan of his. Even though he's a live. He's a YouTuber.

He makes content. He seemingly cares about his fans. He's high-fiving everybody. And he's the guy that got jocked and hit the ball super far. He actually utilizes everything that he can find to hit the ball further and straighter. He came out and said he puts his balls in salt, says he's got salty balls. Why is that? Well, some of these golf balls that we get, and he wouldn't mention any names, are actually a little bit off balance. It's very difficult to make a perfectly balanced round ball that has dimples in it. So we put it in salt water, and then we're able to see what the heavy

side is, so it goes to the bottom, so then we mark it. So when I put it on a tee, I know where the heavy side is and where the light side is, so i can hit that son of a bitch even further and we're like hey listen buddy i don't know if what you said makes sense at all but i do know i appreciate the fact that you want to bomb balls it was the weekend of bryson d cham bro but he had a late late opponent from ireland who was having the best sunday out of any golfer to maybe ever play at Pinehurst. Here's Rory McIlroy on the 16th green. Oh no. His one stroke lead disappears from a 2.6 inch putt that he powered through the left one. Now let's go to the 18th hole. Now Rory would par 17. He would get to the green on 18.

This would be to save par. This would be to tie potentially if DeChambeau is it. Boom! Misses it again! 3'4", 11 inches. Go back to the beginning of that, please, Foxy. Literally standing over top of this thing. Just two holes ago, I would not envy this human at all,

let alone a human who hadn't won a major in 10 years. Now he's back married again, which we thought potentially was the key to getting him back in the game. I'm Rory McIlroy. All I need to be told is that I was loved again. I'm peacocking out here. I'm playing

better golf than everybody on this course on the final day of the U.S. Open. Then 16, he missed that short one. Then 18. Good job. Way to get there. Good approach.

Now all you got to do is bury this 3-foot-11 one. And all that's going through Rory McIlroy's head right here is you stink, Rory. You stink. You just missed one from shorter than this. Oh, my God. We're aiming outside the hole. Rory, if you miss this and lose another major. Rory, your wife is back with you.

Everything's supposed to be good. But there's no way this ball is going into the hole. Then he if you miss this and lose another major. Roy, your wife is back with you. Everything's supposed to be good, but there's no way this ball's going into the hole. Then he decides to putt it. And he was right. And he was right. And Bryson DeChambeau now, one group behind him, obviously, because of where they finished the day before. He's on the tee box. He said he could hear the groans and the cheers and kind of knew where he was with everything. They started chanting, USA, USA, USA. After Rory's miss, because it's a U.S. Open and an American was potentially going to win it. So DeChambeau knew that Rory had to fall down.

All he's got to do is hit par instead. He hits it into the native lane. He hit it. I think he went five of 15 fairways on Sunday. Obviously not making life easy. Had to battle. Had those special clubs. Was up underneath a tree.

Couldn't take a short one. Had to hack it out. Where's the at-oh? He finds himself 55 yards from the hole in the sand trap after battling through some tough grass and sand. Brutal. Sticks.

Well, 55 yards from the sand. And if you go back to his YouTube, there's a video that has surfaced where Bryson DeChambeau actually chit-chats about what shot scares him the most. If there's a shot you can give me that would give me nightmares, it's not over water, it's not a skull, it's not a shank, it's a 65-yard bunker shot bunker shot okay so there's a 65 yard bunker this one's a 55 yard bunker shot so maybe he views them differently in the live golf media guide whenever bryson dechambeau was asked about his least favorite shot shot that gives you the

most difficulty 60 yard bunker shot okay well here it is dechambeau you got a 60yard bunker shot. Okay, well, here it is, DeChambeau. You got a 60-yard bunker shot to win the U.S. Open. You got to go up and down. What's he do with it? Magically rolls it to within three feet. And then with a spattering cheer of drunks around the green, Bryson DeChambeau would knock this thing center cup to win the US Open and celebrate.

What a weekend for DeChambeau. What a weekend for golfing. I want to let everybody on earth know I loved watching this man golf again. And just like everybody else, I would like to see him golfing with great golfers every single weekend. That's why this Live PGA thing

has to come to an end at some point. We'd all be very grateful for it, but golf would love it as well. This dude shook everybody's hand that was at the golf course. He was not on a rush to get out of there at all. He was actually just celebrating, milling around, talking with the boys, filming shit. Actually found himself back

in the sand on the 18th hole when the Golf Channel was doing a shot about it. It helps a guy. Chit-chat's with a guy who's a former golfer named... Johnson Wagner. Johnson Wagner. Great mustache. He puts it up to two feet.

It's like DeChambeau was enjoying the entire moment. DeChambeau was enjoying being the U.S. Open champion. And it felt like he appreciated the fact that he was there, which is why I think it resonated with all of us. And they're talking about a bunch of mumbo jumbo about this Team USA for the Olympics. And obviously the World Golf Rankings doesn't account for any live events because they don't view it as actual golf. It's like, well, all right, figure it out. So in all the majors that he's played, he is now top 10 in the world golfing rankings.

You have to be in the top four top-ranked Americans to make the Olympic team. I would like to say Team USA, figure it out. Figure it out. Everybody on earth wants D. Shambert to represent the United States this weekend. No offense to the other four that are being selected. And I know Wyndham Clark has had a hell of a run this year. For sure. And I absolutely love everything about uh xander yeah well xander one the goal yeah let's keep his

patrick can't lay listen love it but it's bryson's time okay okay somebody yeah we need dechambeau exactly we get scotty scotty scheffler that makes sense scotty's gonna be there but bryson's gotta be there i don't love the Team USA just pawns the decision-making process off on the World Golf Rankings. When the World Golf Rankings clearly has a little bit of a bias against some people that are the best in the world golfing in one particular league,

I just think it's kind of bullshit. And after the USA chance and winning the US Open, put DeChambeau in the Olympics stat. Long, ball, whacker guy. Yeah. Needs to be representing the United States of America. And Darius, I mean, we're all thinking it, so I'm just going to say it.

Since playing golf with you, he's one for one in majors. Wow. So way to go, D-Bot. But it was absolutely legendary, just the whole round. And I know you guys have been watching golf longer than I have, so I know people hated Bryson for some reason. Hated, hated. He's pulled a full 180.

I've seen a lot of people tweeting Greeny being one of them, like, hey, fully on this guy's side now. He just kind of seems like the people's champ. You know, him engaging with the crowd like he was in the practice round, like, hey, sorry, not going to go for the green on this one. Don't boo me. And then even to the last putt, I think Pavone, maybe, you know, they wanted him to putt it out.

I wanted him to putt it out as well so he'd have his moment. But he was like, hey, calm down, relax, I got it. Hits the putt, sinks the putt. That's because it wasn't a straight sort of game of read, I guess. So it would have been a little bit of a – A gamesmanship. Yeah. I think it would have been a cloud of –

In the negative fashion. Yeah, it would have been like – People would have been a cloud of... In the negative fashion. People would have been pissed because Pavone was the shorter putt and on the same line. So it would have gave DeChambeau the line. So then there would have been people bitching about the only reason why he made it. It's easy to miss that, but we just saw Roy miss too. So even though, that is DeChambeau being babyface. And to your point about him saying,

I'm sorry, I'm not going to the green here, guys. I'm going to lay it up. How about before a putt? Yeah, getting him jacked. Whenever you're supposed to putt, he's like Happy Gilmore out there. Whenever you're supposed to putt, you're supposed to be locked in, super serious. There was Rory chance happening, and Rory wouldn't even look at the crowd. He's just walking in there.

DeChambeau, like, yeah, hey, thanks. Camera on him after he hits a monster drive or something like that. He looks at the camera, head nod, how you doing? Everything's content, DeChambeau. Great for the game, great for golf. Now, Roy McIlroy's going to be in a spot. Jesus, I mean those are real short putts.

As somebody that would miss those putts as well in those situations, well, I never get to that situation. Sunday, US Open, for the win, for a tie. I'm never going to be there, but if there's a couple, I mean, at Tahoe, at Tahoe. Sure. There's a couple of those.

Yeah. The things you're saying to yourself. Oh, yeah. So rude. Just so mean. And then the greens at Piners have been devastating all weekend. He was aiming outside the hole on 18 from whatever three-foot putt that was. And that thing broke all the way back.

I don't think he had a confident swing on it because of what happened at 16. But it was still, what a nightmare for Rory. On the way back on that, he kind of gets the yips. He almost second-guesses himself. And I know Rory's had several bad chokes the last couple, over the last 10 years. I don't know if you ever recover from this one.

Because it was. It was gift-wrapped, handed to him, DeChambeau. He fought all the way back. He did. And he had opportunities. It's not like he was, you know, spraying it everywhere. It just came down to putting and he just got in his own head.

I don't know. And Rory, you know, people say whatever, but for him to do what he did afterwards when he just you know, like just so defeated, just, I'm getting out of here. I'm not talking to the media. I'm not talking to anybody. But usually he's not.

That's why I think this one more so than any of these other ones. I think he may have started thinking, wow, I'm legitimately never going to win again. I'm never going to win another major. This dude looked like an NFL coach at the end of OTAs. Tires squealing on the way out. And everybody's making a big deal of it. It's like, I would do the same. What are we even talking about? The fact that they made him stand in that room with a camera on him,

I would have thought to myself, like, Rory, I would be out. I understand what happened. No matter what anybody else says about Rory, it is nowhere near as bad as what he's saying about himself. Absolutely. So we would like to let Rory know, hey, you had a good day. Hey, that's golf, Rory. You'll be back, Rory. You're all right, Rory. With that being said, D's saying about himself. Absolutely. So we would like to let Rory know, hey, you had a good day. Hey, that's golf, Rory. You'll be back, Rory.

You're all right, Rory. With that being said, DeChambeau said, I saw him take the lead, and I thought to myself, that ain't going to happen. That's why we need him on Team USA. Pivoting away from golf, we'll have Bryson DeChambeau on the program today in about an hour and 20. Cannot wait to talk to him. Congrats to him.

It should be a fascinating convo, especially with maybe his lucky charm being in the Thunderdome and Darius J. Butler. Joining us now is a man who's been keeping track of a story that I had no idea was happening, but is obviously massive for all of us NFL fans. From Pro Football Talk, the founder of Pro Football Talk,

NBC Sports' Mike Florio. Yeah, Florio! Florio, hey, sorry we made you wait there. We just wanted an entire rant about Rory and DeChambeau. Did you watch any of that? It was fantastic golf. You know, I think it was on NBC, which probably makes it a fireable offense

to say that I didn't watch it, but I didn't watch it. Oh, Florio. I apologize to my corporate overlords at Comcast. I didn't watch it. Yeah, they hear you, too. They know what you just said. They're going to try to get that wiped off the internet, obviously. But you missed a great one.

Obviously, the majors are going to be fantastic, especially with the live PGA storylines. Nonetheless, congrats on the coverage by NBC. Tariqo back on the call. They said old buddy was super negative. What's his name? No, Stanley? Oh, yeah, Brando. Yeah, they say he's super negative.

A lot of internet murdering him. Anyways, great golf. Florio. Okay, so this morning I looked on the internet and I saw Roger Goodell might be testifying today in a class action lawsuit against the NFL. I had no idea that was happening. Then I also read Jerry Jones might be testifying either today or sometime this week in a clash action lawsuit and i said what is this roger goodell is about to take the stand we're talking about one of the greatest speakers of all time this is something that i wish we all would have heard of and it

was all coming from your website what the hell is happening where are we right now and uh how does this end probably for everybody florio has you been the only one covering this, seemingly. It really is strange. And I've made this point both on the website and on Twitter, that it seems like no one's paying attention to this. And I don't know why. I don't know if we just haven't prioritized it yet. We haven't taken it seriously.

I think it's good that people like you are seeing, hey, whoa, Goodell testifying, Jerry Jones testifying. maybe this is something we should be paying closer attention to. This is a case that goes back to 2015. It was filed by a San Francisco pub known as the Mucky Duck. And it challenges the way, fundamentally at its core, it challenges the way the NFL sells the Sunday ticket package, the out-of-market way to, you know, if you're a Packers fan in Pittsburgh, you can watch those games, and they market it like that. The commercials play to that idea that if I'm a displaced fan of some team and I'm in a different market, I can watch the games that way. So the fundamental question is this. Is the NFL forcing the Sunday ticket provider, previously DirecTV, now YouTube

TV, to overcharge in order to ensure that a certain number of people won't get it and that they'll watch the CBS and Fox games made available to them in their local markets? It's a premium product, and there's plenty of evidence that's come in already that the NFL doesn't want it to be too cheap. It doesn't want it to be something that has a huge subscriber base. And the argument is it's trying to protect CBS and Fox. That's the core of the case. And I think caught up within that is just this idea that's been lingering ever since I first became aware of the Sunday ticket package. Why do I have to buy the whole thing for the whole year when I only care about one team's games?

Why do I have to buy every week if the team that I want to watch has a Monday night game that week and I'm not going to watch any out-of-market games this weekend? So however this plays out, it could force the NFL to really change the way that games are made available to consumers. And that's a win for all of us, regardless of the verdict, regardless of what happens on appeal. This could rattle the cage enough for the NFL that they say, maybe we need to change the way this is. Maybe we do need to make it cheaper. Maybe we do need to let people buy one team at a time, one week at a time, one game at a time. So I hate to say it, but it's true.

If the NFL loses, there's a chance that all of us win. Okay, so obviously if people are going to pay cheaper money to watch their favorite team, that's good news for humans. The bottom line of the NFL is obviously something that will take a massive shot here. I think I saw from one of your tweets, like, potentially $ billion dollars in this class action lawsuit to over two and a half million people that could potentially sign on to file alongside this mucky duck lawsuit that's taking place the nfl i assume is just saying we're a business we're allowed to charge whatever the hell we want this isn't the only way to watch our shows this is an additive to everything we do this

is like people that charge 150150 for T-shirts. That's what their business is. This is what our business is. Is that what they're saying? And how likely is that to be the winning side in the end of this entire thing? Well, I mean, that's the gist of it. They're not engaged in anything that would violate the antitrust laws, that they are just managing their business.

It's a premium product. It makes choice available to all consumers. They can watch the games in the local market if they want to. They can purchase Sunday ticket if they want to. But again, the fight goes down to the pricing and whether and to what extent the NFL, working with CBS and Fox and DirecTV, now YouTube TV, is conspiring to basically fix the price in order to protect the contracts under which CBS and Fox pay billions of dollars to the NFL for those Sunday games. And they want people to watch their local CBS and Fox affiliates and drive up the ratings that way and not send them off to Sunday ticket. The antitrust angle here, and this is fundamentally an antitrust case. The NFL has an exemption dating back to 1961 as it relates to selling packages to CBS, Fox, NBC, ABC, the broadcast networks.

They're allowed to sell all the games together. If you want the Cowboys, you also got to take the games maybe you don't want, and we decide what goes where. Cowboys. You also got to take the games maybe you don't want, and we decide what goes where. They can't be sued for antitrust for that, even though they are 32 different businesses operating under the shield. They're 32 separate businesses. They would be subject to antitrust law. They're trying to argue in this case that the broadcast antitrust exemption extends to whatever is happening with Sunday Ticket and what they may or may not be doing that would otherwise violate the law. So I think they have arguments that, hey, it's not antitrust violation. And then even if it is, it falls under our exemption that we've had since 1961.

So they always have a good defense. They always have good arguments. And it all gets worked out in the end. And that's why I wish we had more low by blow coverage of this thing. So I can have a better assessment of which way it's going. What I've seen so far, it feels like a tough case for the NFL because it seems pretty clear that, yeah, somebody's putting their thumb on the scale to drive that price up so people don't buy it. Got it. And I think the first real headline that I saw of this case, without knowing this case was taking place,

was that ESPN offered up like a $70 thing. Sunday ticket trial shows ESPN proposed selling the full season package for only $70, along with a single team option. The NFL didn't like the idea. Now, you're getting that from the court documents, which I assume Mocky Duck's representation are the ones that are saying that that's how the NFL handled it all. But for ESPN, hey, let's go. Yeah.

Hey, way to go. It's a good look for ESPN. That's right. It shows that the ESPN was trying to. And look, I mean, you can say they're trying to create more options that are affordable for the consumer. But they're also trying to make money off of the investment that you would make in buying the rights to the Sunday ticket package. You said something earlier that the NFL would lose money if it has to change the way it does business. I don't know that that's the case. They're still going to get their fee from the Sunday ticket

provider. And it should be enough for the NFL to say, what are you paying us? Two billion a year? OK, fine. Do whatever you want with it. As long as we get our two billion, do whatever you want with it. If you're going to set a low price point and have a ton of subscribers fine high price point small subscribers we don't care we're getting our money either way and i think that if they're forced to abandon this practice of we want the price high they're still going to make their money somebody's still going to give them a huge amount in order to have the rights to sunday ticket as somebody amen and i i don't think the nfl will ever lose money i was just kind of talking about the 2121 billion that might be subject. No, that would be a big check to write.

That's a big check to write. Yeah, but the NFL is always going to make money. They'll figure it out. Everybody's going to have three New Jersey options the next week after that. And all of a sudden, we got $21 billion all the way back. So I know this because I was definitely sued by somebody, Mr. Farf. And the whole thing that was being seemingly talked about by his lawyer publicly whenever he was going on podcasts, and also privately with my lawyers that were handling the whole thing back in Pittsburgh,

shout out to Sarah Bronder, class of 2005, Plum High School. But nonetheless, all they kept saying is, does Pat want to go to Discovery? Does Pat want to go to Discovery? And they were asking me that question. And I was like, yes, I don't give a fuck. Yeah, I will definitely go to Discovery. You send that question back the other way. You know, obviously, that's what it is.

Does this have Discovery and everything? So, like, every conversation that the NFL seemingly would have had to have with YouTube and Google, whoever they're negotiating with, would then be found? Is that what's taking place right now? What do we know about this? That's already happened. Okay, so that's already happened. Here's just a brief overview of the journey of this thing. And where are we right now?

We're on a lower court system. Where the hell are we in this entire thing? Roger Goodell is testifying? This feels like a big deal this is the trial this is the culmination of years of roller coaster in the court system the the case was thrown out and then on appeal the case was revived and other cases have been consolidated you've got two million people in this thing they've already done all the discovery. What the NFL usually does when they're sued, they try to find a way to get out of it early. A silver bullet motion to dismiss or if they can, you have to send this thing to arbitration, ideally arbitration

that is ultimately presided over by Roger Goodell. They try to do that whenever and wherever they can to keep it out of the public eye and it's more likely to result in a favorable outcome. This was not dismissed. This went forward. And that's when you get thousands, if not millions of documents and emails and you review them and you question people under oath in a deposition setting. And you do all the things that lead up to the trial. And just before the trial, what happens is, and the NFL did this here, there's a procedure called a motion for summary judgment. It says to the court, we don't need to have a jury come in here and decide anything based upon the facts as they are undisputed. These are the facts and they are undisputed, as Kevin Bacon said, and a few good men. Under the undisputed facts, apply the law and we win. The NFL tried that and they lost.

They had to go to court and they started June 5. I think they believe it's going to be a three-week trial. The plaintiff is already rested. They're in the defendant's case in chief. That's where Goodell and Jones are going to be called to testify. So yeah, this thing is happening. The trial is happening and a jury is going to enter a verdict. And for a lot of people, and it's going to be fewer people now that you're talking about it, but a lot of people, when they see the news, if the NFL gets whacked, they're going to enter a verdict. And for a lot of people, and it's going to be fewer people now that you're talking about it, but a lot of people, when they see the news, if the NFL gets whacked, they're going to be like,

where have I been the last nine years? That's how I felt literally this morning. I mean, I guess I've missed out on eight years. We're now getting video of Roger Goodell's tunnel walk. His fit is from Men's Warehouse. It does appear. He looks to be in jovial spirits. He's got good confidence.

One hand in the pocket, letting people know he's ready for business if need be, but the other hand's out. Roger Goodell is about to go put on a show in this thing. I don't know. You and I both know that, Florio. This guy, what he's about to go do in this particular courtroom, the judges at one point are probably going to say, damn, okay. This guy's good.

He's the greatest speaker of all time. Pat, here's the thing. This guy's good. He's the greatest speaker of all time, I think. Pat, here's the thing. Here's the thing. And I agree with your assessment of how he performs in a press conference setting. Think of how a press conference is, though. In a press conference, you've got a room full of reporters, and they all show up with a question that they had come to the table ready to ask. So one reporter asks a question, maybe on a difficult issue,

and you get word salad, word salad, and he stops. And then in comes another reporter on a completely different issue. Because I got my question I'm going to ask. I'm not going to ask a follow-up question. I'm not going to say, hey, you didn't answer that last question. They're going to ask a different question. And it just ricochets around from reporter to reporter. When you're in this setting and you have one person asking you the question, if you ask a tough question, and you get word salad in response...

I don't know who's asking the question. I got Roger Goodell over whoever's asking the question. Listen, I understand that you've got to check people and push back whenever they're giving answers, and I guess you have all the answers. If you're able to do that, you have to have all the answers. Goodell's got all the answers. He was're if you're able to do that you have to have all the answers goodell's got all the answers he was there before already goodell

yeah he was on did you see that when he called him mr goodell do you think this is a proper usage of the united states taxpayer money mr goodell i remember when his name first surfaced in 2006 as a potential commissioner i i said how do you pronounce this guy's name? And yeah, but it's amazing. It's been 18 years now since he's had that job. And he's done it well. His bosses love him. He does the job well.

He serves as the guy who is the human shield for them to do whatever they want and say whatever they want. And he stands up there and takes the bullets and does it well. He handles himself in press conferences well, but Pat will tell you this. He had to testify two years ago in a case where they're trying to get their insurance companies to pay for the full concussion settlement. Every penny of it they wanted to come from their insurance policies. 400 pages, and I read every one of them and managed to stay awake for most of it. When he's in that setting, and it's just him and a

lawyer and his lawyer, you can detect he isn't real happy and he tries to do sword play with the lawyer. You got to be careful when you're in front of a judge and a jury. In front of a jury, you got to be very careful. Everything you do, they're watching. Everything you say, they're listening. And it's a different reality. When you think about it, whether it's Jones, Robert Kraft, Roger Goodell, these guys are used to being the emperor everywhere they go. All of a sudden, remember that movie with Tom Hanks? I'm the captain now. The judge is the captain now.

Another few good men reference. Jack Nicholson, sit back down. Hey, you're killing it so much. You hit the mic. Hey, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Thank you for breaking that down for us. We'll continue to follow as you just beat the hell out of a microphone. I love that. Everybody's all jacked up for DeChambeau.

We appreciate you, Florio. You're the man. Thanks, guys. Ladies and gentlemen, pro football talk founder, Mike Florio. That's a big deal. Huge deal. Called Florio this morning after I read his tweet I'm like, is different Roger Goodell

You're talking about different Roger Goodell going to testify He's like, no, nobody's talking about it I don't know why anybody's talking about it It's a big deal, open court I guess Yeah, shout out ESPN too If they do do the $70 option, obviously they won't But that being a thing, and then also the individual team Being something, like I was thinking about that too

Like hey, if I only want to watch Patriots games games i don't want to watch the rest of them that not being an option yet kind of stinks but that would be a huge kind of level up for that entire thing the quote from roger goodell as he was walking into court was is it football season yet uh that's what roger goodell asked me as we were exiting the security station in los angeles federal courthouse the nfl boss what if he starts going by NFL boss? I'm the boss. Jerry Jones' first statement while he's taking a seat, that guy's

not the boss. He did lie under oath. I'd like this on record. He's not the boss. There's 31 others. Because we don't count Murphy up there. So there's a lot of bosses he ain't one of them i'd like to strike that would jerry be the only uh other owner so he's he's part

of the media rights deal like everybody talks about that's why like the dallas cowboys are on tv all the time not only because they have the largest fan base and obviously yada yada yada but allegedly jerry jones is a part of the media rights group that does all the negotiating so playing like uh cards against humanity and we talk about this a lot when you're playing cards against humanity you got to play the person that is picking okay that's a game where you have to have the funniest entry and people always try to play like what they think is the funniest the game is playing the person who's picking what they will think is the funniest that's what i think a lot of people thought

because Jerry Jones is one of the lead people on the media rights deal. It's like, we'll put the Cowboys, boom, bang, boom, boom. Then whenever we're negotiating with Jerry, it's a lot easier. There's obviously a committee and a panel, but I think Jerry has been hoisted as the guy. And I might be completely wrong on this. This is just kind of how it's been understood publicly and privately in this entire thing is he's like the media rights guy.

So he would certainly be a part of this particular conversation yeah imagine what is the price now for uh one year 280 dollars 400 yeah 450 480 yeah 480 dollars or something like that the cost and uh if it's two and a half million uh people or whatever i think i did the math at 450 bucks and it was like 1.15 billion for that and then let alone all the other at $450 and it was like $1.15 billion for that and then let alone all the other add-on. It's like, yeah, they're never going to lose money. No chance. They're just going to generate capital forever. Also, I was

thinking about if you had the option just to buy a game on a week-to-week basis, how much do you think it's like a pay-per-view event. How much do you think they're selling a single Sunday night football game for, or whatever the case, you know, like this on a cable? The things that Roger Goodell is going to say to this lawyer.

Have you ever run a business before? Like, that is. So we're negotiating one-game rights deals worth billions of dollars with Amazon and Netflix is involved now, which you were going to ask about, but ran out of time with Florio. We certainly should try to get his take on that, how they're trying to find which network is going to help them on the back end broadcast their games.

Much like Amazon hired NBC to do their thing, Netflix was looking to do the same. They're struggling, allegedly. That's what reports on the internet are saying, mostly because these people want to welcome in a new competitor. Well, NBC said yes to Amazon immediately. I mean, yeah, you can get our world-famous director. What's his name? The Paisan? Fred? Al gadelli gadelli yeah they put like the greatest of all time

allegedly on there al michael's on it's like nbc kind of i don't want to say carte blanche but they did for amazon now allegedly maybe netflix they're saying no to yeah maybe sure we'll see how that goes money will get this whole thing figured out I'll be excited to see who will be calling those games, but Roger Goodell is going to point out how much money they're negotiating one game for. Whenever you're talking about people being able to carte blanche games, that kind of works against

our business that we already have. We sell this package. This is how much it is. It is a premium product. You can before on TV at one time. You can literally watch whatever you want whenever you want however you want we got a red zone channel with this guy who somehow doesn't pee for the entire day also available as one of the options it's like yeah maybe espn want to do it for 70 bucks but we chose for our business not to go yeah with espn yeah nor will we ever ever do

like i feel like that's all i can say i don't like it i think it's better for fans to be cheaper obviously our show always free is free will remain free like i believe in that mantra of like hey if people can't afford it they should still be able to enjoy party and i think the nfl probably feels that way with the local deals that they have done and uh you know the bunny thing with social media now you can see stuff like i think it's gonna be a tough one to crack Roger Goodell. Because what's a guy going to say? He's greedy. And then Goodell's going to go, you ever run a business before?

How about one that's the biggest in the world? How about that? So I don't know how they lose this. And I think that's maybe why Goodell's walking in. I'm about to go put on a business acumen 101 to this lawyer. Now, Florio said he ran through the transcripts 400 pages of that insurance thing which also such an nfl move we're not paying the cte concussion yeah that's you you guys are our insurance company you're paying all that they're like to hell we are we're insurance companies we don't actually pay stuff that's not in our business although it is and then goodell going

in there trying to blame like that is just the most nfl move of all time they have all the money in the world they will continue to get all the money in the world and uh we just kind of got to live in it and watch out because the sport is awesome yeah and then that's it that's why in that situation too i like talking about like goodell getting uncomfortable and kind of squirm and i think the situations are very different too and you're dealing with concussions and like former players who are their their health is bad. Now you got guys dying and like, and then this is like a,

yeah. But Hey, dude, talking to insurance companies. That's one of the only times ever Goodell can do this. Yeah. True. He can high horse to insurance companies. Yeah.

You know, like if Goodell talks shit to an insurance company, he's like baby face, even though he's trying to pay none of the money. Right. Too. And it's a fantastic business. I don't know how they do it. And he said, he's a shield for the owners. Goodell told us right to our face. He wouldn't lie. Exactly of the money to it. It's a fantastic business. I don't know how they do it.

And he said he's a shield for the owners. Goodell told us right to our face he wouldn't lie. Exactly. He serves the fans. Always. He does. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who is going to give us all the info we need about tonight's Game 5

of the NBA Finals where the Celtics are favored by 6.5 over the Mavericks. 11-year NBA vet, future NBA coach, Austin Rivers. What's up, guys? Hey, just putting out in the universe, you know, future NBA coach. I love it. Yeah, just putting it out. Hey, Stephen A. said this morning that he's heard from numerous black coaches who are pissed off about LeBron James and J.J. Redick doing a podcast

and then that inevitably potentially becoming a head coaching interview throughout the entire year. We're going to hear a lot of that type of stuff, I think, about J.J. potentially getting this job. If he wins, it doesn't matter. If he loses, it all comes back to light. Is that an accurate – because that's how it would be in the NFL if it was kind of playing.

Is that how it's going to be in the NBA as well, Austin? It's definitely an easy target just due to the fact that, for one, it's a Lakers job. That's like the hottest seat in basketball. The expectations there are so high already. You've got James Worthy critiquing your game. You've got Magic Johnson tweeting about you. You've got Snoop Dogg tweeting about you.

You've got every celebrity in the world there at the games. Obviously, when you coach a player like LeBron James and Anthony Davis, that is going to be at the top of pressure and then you add the fact that he has a pod with him and now could possibly be the coach you know there obviously is a conflict of interest there so that's now getting in the way of well is jj a good coach or not or could he be a good coach or not i think he's made to be a coach um just from my talks with jj i've played with JJ for numerous years. He's a basketball brainiac.

I don't know if the timing of him with this organization fits best. I would like JJ to go to a young team and be able to have input on players and draft picks and trades and have control. You know how some of these young, talented coaches go to these programs and they kind of build with them. The Lakers are more like flashing a pan.

We need someone. Can you win right now? It's a lot of pressure. Yeah, this could end very well for J.J. or it could be, I don't know, a quick stop just due to the fact that the Lakers' history. Frank Vogel won a finals championship in the bubble and a couple years later they fired him. Yeah, and he's been fired for two jobs since then.

I mean, the NBA coaching world is crazy. That's why your old man being around for as long as he's been around, he's also in a show now, too. Clips. He's crushing it. He's also in. Looks good in it.

Anyway, it looks great. Yeah, yoked. He looks jacked. Made him jacked in it. So much energy, too, just oozing from his core. I don't know who he's talking about. I mean, he talks a lot of shit. Those rants in that show were unbelievable.

When they were talking about, when he was talking about, what was it, Matt Barnes' wife? I don't know who he was talking about. I don't remember that one. Then Chris Paul, he was on the show whenever we were down in Carolina, and he was like, my wife and I watched one episode of that, and we're like, what the? And then now there's a clip of Chris Paul coming out.

It's like nobody's really getting portrayed well. I think everybody's pretty pissed off that they're even a clip of Chris Paul coming out. It's like... Yeah, crying. Nobody's really getting portrayed well. I think everybody's pretty pissed off that they're even a part of this entire thing. It's tough when you make those movies and you don't have the actual input. There's your dad. There's your dad, man. That's your dad.

You guys think you can say that to your dad? Please. Please show some respect for your father. Growing up, this is tough. That is Morpheus. As your dad, have you talked to your dad about how big of a compliment it is for Morpheus to play him, though? He was very excited.

When the news came out that Lawrence was going to play him, he was like, I mean, this is a win-win, right? I was like, so far. So far, yeah. For now. The eternal pessimist that is Austin Rivers. Okay, so the thing is, if you win, nobody cares. Correct. Yep.

And that's kind of Joe Mazzulla's entire take. He was the coach of the month for the NBA, and somebody on the team congratulated him, and he said, nobody cares. And then you just keep moving forward. Yeah, love that. Joe Mazzulla seems to have the right mindset. You and others that have talked to J.J. Redick

and know basketball say he has a good mind for it. Good luck out there, even though it hasn't happened yet. Good luck out there. He's calling the happened yet good luck out there he's calling the nba finals obviously the next game game five is this evening celtics favored by six and a half at home they get their asses beat in game four by 38 obviously at a historic rate it's the biggest blowout in the history of the celtics finals it's top four blowout in the history of the NBA finals as a whole. It was a game in which they could have won a championship. Dallas had to win it.

Another back-against-the-wall game for Dallas in Boston. How do you see it going, and how should we feel about maybe the Celtics recovering or losing all momentum here? Yeah, this is a big game just due to the fact that right now, Boston's in complete control of this series still. They're up 3-1. No one's ever come back from 3-0.

We all know that. The game is in Boston. They're ready to party tonight. We know that. We know that city's ready to turn up. But if Dallas is able to come in there and win, it gets a little weird. Now it starts to get – because now the pressure turns to where – Wait a minute.

Us as the media are going to start running with this thing. Wait a minute! What do you mean after? Uh-oh. After one day. I mean, now we're back in Dallas. Because if we go Game 7, we don't want Game 7 Luka. You don't want to go against Game 7 Luka.

No, you don't. Keep him out of that. Keep him out of that game. Oh, no. The key is to win before we get to 7. Because you don't want that man right there, the baddest man on the planet, with the ball in his hands. I mean, you don't want him game seven.

I think they win tonight, honestly. I think Boston wins by like 10 or 11 plus, especially coming off that type of loss in Dallas, which was obviously pretty embarrassing for a team like that. You give Dallas credit. You know, gentlemen sweep. They went out there and they fought and they played hard. For them to win tonight, though, man, they're going to need...

They're going to have to have unbelievable efforts from Luka and Kyrie, as well as the rest of those guys. Some of these guys who have been quiet, Derrick Jones, P.J. Washington, some of these dudes who have had quiet finals, they need a lot out of them tonight to win on the road in Boston. They haven't won yet, obviously, in this series on the road. They're going to need that tonight.

How about the Mavs just coming alive, though, in Game 4 in front of their fans, too? Like, their fans are probably going to be pretty bummed out going into the offseason. And then, potentially, the last game they see is, like, the best performance they've had literally all year. Good for them. Now, it would be great for all of us if this game, if this series continues to go a little bit. Obviously, Connor's a little bit nervous, Austin.

Yeah, a little bit nervous, Austin. I like how you say you don't want, you know, game seven look good. Do you know who has the most points in game seven in the playoffs in the history of the NBA? Let me in. Jason Tatum, actually. But funny enough, you know. Okay.

He's playing still. People forget he is playing. Yeah, he is still on the Celtics. Jay Tatum. Jay Tatum. Going to get a lot of that tonight rightics. Jay Tatum. Jay Tatum. Going to get a lot of that tonight right there. Jay Tatum. Jay Tatum.

One of these two. DK Subban joining us. A couple of these. Next hour. But looking at game four, Austin, is it almost better that they just got killed by 38 points and were able to rest some guys versus like a devastating last second loss? What are your thoughts on that?

And do you think that it does almost bode well that, Hey, we can just bury that one that has actually never happened. I believe they were looking at stats. It was the worst offensive game and worst defensive game that they've ever had, at least in the Joe Missoula era. Is it, is that kind of a different type of mindset when it is that bad of a loss? And do you think it does bode well for him? I think, yeah. I mean, listen, sports is is like it's like 50 60 percent mental man you know sometimes it's all

about perspective and how we label things in our brains you know that's the game maybe 90 yeah no for real you know you guys know it's all about how you view things and how you put things in your head and i think a game like last game where they obviously didn't have it on both sides of the ball, they lose by a million points, it's very easy to go in the locker room and everybody be like, hey, man, listen, this was a nasty game for us. Let's flush this one down. We've been great all playoffs. They've been dominant all season.

Listen, Dallas came out in a desperate game. They played great. We lost. Let's flush it. We'll go back to Boston. We're going to take this one. This game tonight, we're going to get prime Boston. We're going to get their best effort. That is why

it has some Boston fans nervous because if you lose tonight's game, it gets weird. Now you've got to go back to Dallas and the momentum can shift. I don't see it happening. Even if Dallas did win tonight, they'd have to win two more.

Boston's just so good. But you just never know. This Boston team, we have not seen them take that jump yet. We haven't seen them kill. They have the guy right down. We need a kill shot. I need a kill shot from Boston tonight.

That was the conversation before the fight. What a fight, by the way. Yeah, he said, I guess, he said before the fight, I heard Steven talking about it on first take. He said, you took this fight too early. You know, because Frank was 18-0, I guess, coming into this fight. He said, too early in your career to be taking this fight. You're not ready yet. And then the eighth round, boom, bang, bongos on face.

Look at him just lining him up. Look at him just lining him. He was on the ropes the whole fight. And that's it right there. And then, to be clear, the backflip off the top rope. Now, the four ropes in boxing is certainly something to keep guys in so they can't fall out. Tough to climb.

Tank obviously says, wait a second. He's going to the top rope. Eighth round knockout. Perfect backflip from Big Tank. But you're talking about, and he's 30 and, I forget, 32 and 0, or maybe 33 and 0. I forget what it is. He has a killer instinct.

He has a killer instinct. You're saying Boston doesn't. Oh, jeez. I mean, that one. Get right on the button. That one, like you want it. I think Boston has it. I think Boston has it. I think Boston has it.

And I think what put Boston over the edge the first other years is the addition of Drew Holiday. When they grabbed Drew, I think it added another element to this team just in terms of depth and overall just having guys who can play on both sides of the ball. I do think Boston closes it out tonight. I really do. All I'm saying is that they do not win tonight, it gets a little weird. Okay. I know as a basketball fan and for all of us, we kind of want some fireworks.

As somebody that does a daily sports show, yes, would love this thing to go as long as possible. But let's say they do find the killer instinct and they win this thing. Dee Butch got a question for you. Yeah, Austin, you've been in those locker rooms. You know how these egos work. I saw a reporter tweet or post something about Steph Curry

almost been in tears when he didn't win finals MVP one year. Big game tonight. Let's say they do close it out. Obviously, Jalen Brown got the Eastern Conference final player. Is that going to be a thing between Tatum and Brown tonight? Like, hey, I want to be the guy that closes it out. Or do you think they just get out of each other's way

and take the best shot available, whatever it is, throughout this game? Or do you think that kind of gets in the way at all? No, I think they're trying to win. I think they both know they've got to win. This is a series that they'll be critiqued much harder if they don't win this playoffs or win the finals rather than who wins finals MVP. The problem is, us as a media, we do obviously highlight the individual stuff

just as much as the team awarded. We always look back at that award with Steph, which was so strange. We held that as a thing against him for the longest time until he was able to win, what, was it 2021 or 2021, whenever they beat Boston, and he finally

got one. Everyone was like, hey, he got one! We're like, I mean, he probably should have won the one with Andre Iguodala, but they obviously gave it to Iggy. Listen, Jalen Brown has been... He has played the best in the conference finals and in the finals.

Just saying. He won the MVP. In your eyes, he's the MVP. I think Tatum's the best player in the Celtics, but you can't give awards off who you think is the best player or who has historically's the best player in the Celtics, but you can't give awards off who you think is the best player or who has historically been the best player. Who has been as of recently, Jalen Brown has been a guy who's played kind of more consistent on both sides of the ball

and been a little bit more efficient. I mean, look at this. My God. But if Tatum goes to like 30 or 40 tonight, they want to give it to him, right? I mean, it's good for the league. It's good for the Celtics. They want Tatum to have that trophy, especially after giving, I think, Brown the Eastern Conference. I think that was like a pretty cool two of that.

They gave him that because Boston's like, yo, listen, Tatum, you go handle business in the finals, the big dog's yours, all right? But you got to go do that. He's got to go out there and play well, man. He can't have one of these games where he shoots like six for 19 or six for 22 and Jalen Brown has like 30. They're going to be in a position where they're like,

yo, we have to give it to Brown. I think Connor said earlier he only took 10 shots, I guess, last game or whatever. It's going to have to be a little bit different this evening. We assume Tatum, Brown, and the boys are going to go ham tonight. That little leprechaun is going to be doing a little jig on the wooden floor of TD Garden. Can you imagine that city tonight?

Can you imagine that city tonight? They get another banner in there, especially in modern day era. They were, they're going to be going, my God. Boston's going to be electric tonight if they win. Yeah, it's going to be crazy. God, Massholes losing their mind in celebration. We haven't seen that in a long time. It's been a long time since Boston Massholes have been able to celebrate. February 2019. What do you call them? Massholes? That's not what I call them. That's what they are. That's actually you know, there's like Yinzers from

Pittsburgh, Hoosiers from Indiana. Mass holes are from Massachusetts. Mass holes just seems a little bit more No, it's my delivery. That's always my issue is how I deliver something. It's a compliment. It's supposed to sound like that. That's how you're is how I deliver something. It's a compliment.

It's supposed to sound like that. That's how you're supposed to deliver it. Yeah. Like last week I was out with four massals. And I will tell you, the night was certainly something. A lot of question marks. A lot of things said. But we woke up the next morning and we said, wow, what a night with the bullshit massals.

It was fun. It was a good time. They know it. We're not making this up. Okay, okay. I'm observing and reporting. I'm a journalist. Maybe you should think about doing the same exact thing.

Maybe you should think about it. Maybe you should think about it. Okay? I saw some sweet tats. I didn't know you were all tatted up the way you are. Happy Father's Day. Hope you had a great one. Happy Father's Day. Thank you.

I got a daughter due Friday. Oh, shit. Okay, congratulations. Here we go. Hope for, obviously, a safe delivery and everything like that. How's house right now? I mean, we're... She's good.

We're on, yeah, it's DEFCON 9 right now. Any day now, you know, she could look at me and be like, it's time to go. It's my first daughter. I'm nervous. I got two boys. But, you know, so it's been smooth sailing so far. But they say when the daughter comes, perspective changes. Well, they also say whenever three come, right? Because're yeah, you're outnumbered right is what they say

So daughter I have a 13 month old daughter. She's nice. Happy Father's Day, by the way Hey, thank you. It was a cool day. It was really cool day. Have fun Appreciate that that mass hole right there not a father. Thank God. That you very much. That's out there. Appreciate that. That asshole right there, not a father. Thank God. That's what I'm saying. That's what we've been saying this whole time. For what we know. True.

That mullet in the streets is a dangerous man. I can already see it right now. You are not lying, brother. You are not lying. You should see whenever the music starts hitting his soul, too. I mean, he does a lot of this. If I go to Ibiza or anything this summer, I'm calling you, man. I need you to come with me.

I'll be there. I will be there. If you go to Ibiza with a one-month or two-month-old daughter, I mean, you're certainly alleged in some people's eyes. But other people will be saying, is this guy from Massachusetts? That's what some people will be asking this entire thing. Hey, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. We got a hard outcome.

And we're thankful that you answered the call seemingly every time we make it. So we appreciate you. Every time. Every time. And you guys call. I'll be here. I appreciate you guys. Hopefully we'll talk to you again before the baby girl arrives.

But if not, congrats. Good luck. And I'm here, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Austin River. Hey, Austin. Ladies and gentlemen, Austin River. Yay, Austin! They are amazing.

They're awesome. They're fantastic. They're the greatest things on earth, and we're lucky to talk about them every single day. I am not alone. No, no. I got a great cast of characters surrounding me. The Toxie Table is here.

At Boston Corner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the Hammer. Damn! Cowboys Tone Diggs is here. Nine-year NFL vet and live golf super fan. There we go. Coach, the last man to golf with Bryson DeChambeau before he won the U.S. Open, Darius J. Buck. Atta boy, D-Buck.

Joining us now live from Manatee, Ohio, is a man who's a college football national champion and Superbowl champion. He was the president of Ohio, but he is still the all time leading tackler for the green Bay Packers. AJ Hawk. Oh, haircut looking shot. Hey, congrats D but on getting Bryson kind of pushing him over the edge,

you know, to get him to where he is today. Thank you coach. I appreciate that AJ. Take a him to where he is today. Thank you, Coach. I appreciate that, AJ. Take a bow. Means a lot coming from you, man. What you tell him, you tell him to, you know, interact with the crowd a little bit. Make this thing a show.

People want to come to the Bryson D. Sham show. Is that what you were saying to him? Stay dialed in with the crowd. You know, obviously stay dialed in with your driver as well, which he didn't do well. 5 of 15 fairways in the final round. Good bounces out there, though. You taught him that. What's that? D-Bot is a

Rory McIlroy fan. I mean, I'm sorry. Diggs is a Rory McIlroy fan. And Bryson. You are a DeChambeau, but you did have to pick sides. And I saw it on your Twitter. And immediately upon seeing you say, you know what, I want to see Rory

win this thing, I thought to myself, why? Don't we want to see DeChambeau do it? I mean, this is what we want to see. But I think it's because we all felt the weight of the world on Rory McIlroy's shoulders. Legitimately. I think we all felt it. You know, he's placed the PGA on his back through this live battle for a while. And then there was conversations of whether or not he was going to take a live deal.

And then behind the scenes, he's epic and hilarious on full swing hasn't been able to win though since he had the long hair and he's got you know the little baby boy face had a divorce couldn't didn't finish the divorce now he's back being married now he's on a run playing better than anybody on a sunday and then he gets that two-foot, 6-inch putt on 16. And, A.J., you and I have obviously played in Cahill at the American Century Championship, you much more than I. I have stood over a couple putts that mean absolutely nothing to my legacy, worth $0, but there is 14 to 15 people watching, and I'm on the nicest course I've ever played,

and I'm thinking to myself, there's no way in hell this ball's going in. And somehow Rory got that into his head, I think, 16. And on 18, that son of a bitch came back, AJ. We've all been there, nowhere near the stakes that this was, but Rory losing, heartbreaker, AJ Hawk. I mean, yeah, you have to feel for the dude. And I don't know if you guys watched any of the post-round coverage. They kept talking about this last putt, and the one guy kept saying,

oh, this is a good putt. It was just a bad read, and they kept making a big deal about it. I'm like, who cares? He missed the thing, whether it's a bad read or a bad putt. The thing didn't go in, obviously. Believe me. What if he misses this one right here? That's what I'm saying.

This is not a gimme at all. Nothing is a gimme. Even a six-inch putt, I feel like in this moment, is not a gimme. Yeah, and that one started drifting a little bit right. I seen him miss one, too. He had three putt at 16 or 17. Yeah, that was when Rory went up two. Two-stroke swing there.

Four-stroke swing there. When Bryson missed his shorty. And then Rory birdied, and then Bryson decided he was going to drive the green on whatever hole that was and then made it a birdie there. That's when Bryson really got back into it. Congrats to Bryson De got back into it. Congrats to Bryson DeChambeau. He'll be joining us in about 35 minutes.

I guess he's been on quite a run. He had media this morning and some other stuff. I think he's taking a nap and then waking up for our show, is what we were told. So might be a little groggy depending upon how last night went. But that man took over the entire sports world yesterday with his moxie with his scrambling i mean he looked like he was one of us out there just about 50 yards 70 yards further and then his second shot being so much better than us but the way he went about winning it

was obviously stressful he seemed to be cool the entire time he played to the crowd he generated emotion i mean it was it was a fantastic display of goff yesterday the u.s open delivered and it's kind of awesome that a live guys went in right like we kind of need the live guys to perform better than the pga guys because hopefully then the pga does make a okay we no longer have all the best guys in the world they're gonna have scotty forever so no matter what that doesn't really matter but as long as like the brooks's and the bryson's continue to show up and be in those final –

Rom needs to get there too with his injuries. Yeah, calm. Your first point there about the PGA and Liv, PGA getting something done, it's like I understand why the golf purists got so mad about this Liv deal. For sure. Because every major when these guys are playing with each other. That's why we watch. Like Scotty Scheffler.

Like, this is why the Team USA thing, and we'll bring it up to DeChambeau in like 34 minutes or so. Like, do you care about not being on the Olympics? I'm pissed about it. Like, the World Golf Rankings deciding that 52 holes or 54 holes, whatever it is, can't be enough for us to properly judge and yada, yada. It's okay. That's the World Golf Rankings. That's them. Team USA can still say, nah, but the hottest golfer we got right now is this one right here.

And we know that is the case. And he's still top 10 without us judging all of the tournaments he plays all year, except for five of them. It's like, if Team USA was to make that decision, we'd be pumped about it. But I wonder if Bryson even thinks about it. He knew the decision he made whenever he went to live that he'd be off the world golf rankings but who gives a shit what the world golf rankings have to say if you're team usa that's my big thing and i said well this is uh this is the procedure that we've used since golf was put into the olympics like you could change because it's only been an olympics couple one time yeah like you could certainly change this to put the best team out there because Scotty Scheffler and Dee Shambo battling for an Olympic gold,

I mean, that would be so sweet. That would be so sweet. And when you think about Scotty Scheffler, he had the worst weekend of anybody. He could have had a weekend off, which would have been amazing. He hasn't really been in jail a couple weeks ago, winning every single one. Has a baby, this entire thing. He gets plus five. That becomes the cut line every single, has a baby, this entire thing, he is plus five. That becomes the cut line.

So he has to stay for the entire week. Can't withdraw your number one golfer in the world. That's not Scottie Sheffield golf. But if he misses the cup by one, he has a nice more two days at home, the entire situation. Instead, he's irrelevant at a tournament that's one of the majors and doesn't get any off time. But we need them to be golfing more often together because it's beautiful.

Yeah, for sure. And with Bryson, he seems like one of those guys. I think last Olympics, a lot of the guys scoffed at it. It's like, well, who gives a shit? Olympic golf is kind of a new thing. Obviously, winning a gold medal would be cool, but he seems like the kind of guy who Xander was. He's like, hey, that's a defining moment of my career, obviously.

They got an Olympic gold medal. Yeah, exactly. But a't even like didn't even want to go down to brazil to play because it was like yeah whatever you know like i'm not winning any money it's kind of it was kind of mickey mouse but with bryson too like i think going to live is part of the reason he's had this massive baby face turn because he's obviously matured and gotten older and kind of been able to poke fun at himself but like he was so overexposed. You saw him every week and you'd see his antics and I think people were like, alright, enough of this asshole. We're always hearing all this stuff. And now

he pops back in at majors pretty much and he's almost winning and he's fun to watch. I think he's benefited moving over, not even necessarily from the golf, but I think if he would have stayed on the PGA, I think the sentiment of how he was viewed three years ago would be the same well and his youtube yeah exactly he's being able to do that his youtube is awesome it's good content

and you know definitely maturing and changing as you grow and evolving but i think he just started owning who he is for sure like i instead of like trying to be like fake tough guy. Yeah. No, I'm a nerd, dude. He's been authentic from day one. It feels like a dude that the whole crazy roller coaster that has been Bryson's whole like his fame and what he's been doing on the course. I feel like a dude just been super authentic the whole time. Now, I don't know. He could be fooling everybody.

That'd be a heck of an acting job. I don't believe that's the case. But yeah, like a dude that just been him from day one. He's kind of grown and progressed and gotten older and matured, and we get to watch it. I don't know how he can ever top this. I never see winners sticking around. It's always like

ceremony, and then let's get the hell out of here. He was like, man, I don't want this night to end. He stuck around, too, when Xander won. Stuck around. Obviously, you need to stick around for a potential playoff. But stuck around, shook his hand. But kind of going back to that team aspect thing,

that was one of the things I asked him in Houston. I'm like, how quick did it take you to get used to, like, the team golf thing? Because that's what a lot of people are against. He was like, oh, immediately. He was like, you know, I played on a team in college. Obviously, Ryder Cup, President's Cup. So he loves that type of atmosphere. So I would love – I don't know how they can make it happen.

I'm sure this whole grading system and shit will have to change at some point, I think, in the future with how the game of golf is evolving. But I would definitely love him and Scottie on the same team because they seem like obviously two great golfers, but completely opposite. Like Scottie's super stoic. DeChambeau's in there at the tee box having conversations with fans, signing autographs on the way in one of the biggest moments of his life. So I would love to see it, but I do love seeing just the game overall just growing.

And Bryson DeChambeau is like this with everything. Yeah. Like everything. And he goes back up. Scottie Scheffler is swinging out of his shoes. His entire golf game is like just I'm going to rip the shit out of this. Where DeChambeau is like, I need to go about 74% with this particular club

at this percent increase or decrease on the downhill. And Scottie Scheffler is seemingly just wheeling and dealing out there. And then the personalities don't match. They don't match. They are awesome. And Bryson just being like uh what is

seemingly like a representative of golf is what he felt like bingo whenever he's doing the youtube content and then talking to the fans and hitting shot and then like whenever you go out and play with him you talk about phil mickelson coaching it felt like d chambeau is doing the same exact thing oh yeah yeah it's like i feel like he wants to represent his golf style as well i read a uh golf writer last night who's been following bryson he said for a long time i wish i gave him credit i can't remember what his name was uh but he said back when people didn't like bryson it was because he just didn't understand what it meant to be like the face of golf and be so famous and he's never and now he it seems like he understands that more than anyone on the tour

like he understands what his job is as a face of golf and what he's supposed to be as someone who's that famous. But for the Olympics, the last Olympics, he was actually super bummed out because he was supposed to be on the Olympics team. Got COVID, couldn't go. Gave an interview about how bummed out he was because he wanted to represent his country and stuff like that. Bummed out!

We'll talk to him in about a half hour or so. Can't wait to get his take. We have some breaking news out of the NFL. NFL Films has announced in partnership with Mox that Hard Knocks in season will be the entire AFC North. Wow. The entire thing. I love that. Gotta love it, yeah.

I love that. Okay, so this is hilarious to think about because, you know, I would assume each episode is going to sample from every single team. So the NFL Films people probably went back to the drawing board and said, one team gets a bit redundant. If we could have multiple options, multiple storylines, we can kind of cover through this entire thing. It'll make the hour pass much more seamlessly, seemingly, throughout the year. I love it.

But also, you normally get normally get like no teams that want to do it yeah bang up and it was tough to find one team that's doing it and now the nfl and nfl films are like funny thing about that is fucking four of you yeah are doing that now i think this would be good for the show i think it'll reinvent the show i think we'll all enjoy the hell out of it but there's certainly some teams going i thought we were getting rid of this thing and now we got more than ever before. And I guess it would just bounce division to division, AJ, is probably the assumption here. Well, did the NFL, did they force this on any of the teams?

Could the teams say no? Was it even possible? I know they have, for the regular hard knocks that they do before the season in camp, there's all the guidelines of which teams are available with this. Did they just force it on and say, hey, good luck? Doesn't matter, the whole division's doing it? I think so. And that seems to be like say, hey, good luck? Doesn't matter. The whole division's doing it? I think so. And that seems to be like the – and this is great news for the show.

I think it's great for any football fan. Even if you're not a football fan, if you're a casual, it'll be cool to see all the behind-the-scenes stuff in season. That's what's awesome about this. And for the youngs maybe that don't remember that Hard Knocks basically started all the content that you see from NFL teams on social media. Hard Knocks was that before social media was really as prevalent in every single NFL building. You're getting a chance to see how actual NFL teams operate during the most important time of the year,

which is training camp, for cuts, for workouts, for practices, for team meetings, for coaches meetings. I mean, it was like a never before seen anything. And now with social media and every team kind of doing it, I don't want to say it dilutes it, but it does kind of desensitize the product because we see that type of shit every day with one particular scroll. With four teams, though, bouncing around, it's like here, the storylines in Pittsburgh, huge. Storylines in Cincinnati, huge, especially with T. Higgins signing the franchise tag. That a baby Bengals. I think everybody assumes it's going to be his last year there,

but his mom sent out a tweet. She's pumped that he's back. I mean, we are all excited for that. You go to the Browns, storylines never, ever ending. And then the Ravens, Chaw Dog, Lamar Jackson, and that team about to go on another run. I mean, it's like perfect division for the perfect show at the perfect time. I'm very excited.

Four hard knocks, it makes a ton of sense. Three of those teams made the playoffs last year. It's not like when you're rolling the dice, what they've done midseason with the show so far is where these teams could be out of it and nobody cares about it anymore. Three of these teams made the playoffs. I assume two of them are probably going to make the playoffs again this year. At least those later

weeks in the season and into the playoffs, the Ravens made the AFC Championship, you're always going to have something interesting. You're probably going to make the playoffs again this year. So you at least those later weeks in the season and into the playoffs. I mean, the Ravens made the AFC championship. You're always going to have something interesting. You're not going to lose the luster that you have the last few seasons when these teams don't make the playoffs or they're out of contention. I wonder if Roger Goodell would bring this up in court today. You know, not everybody has Macs. They got to pay for hard knocks.

What do you want? He should. Give it to him for free. What do you want, man? Yeah, what are you? Trying to make money? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who put everything on? Who to do? Yeah, what are you? Trying to make money? Who put everything on us? What are you two?

That's a lot. Starting in December, too? Yeah. That's great. Like you said, all these teams will be in the thick of it. You got three of the highest paid quarterbacks right now in the league. And then, obviously, what's going on in Pittsburgh, which is obviously a franchise you obviously always got to talk about.

Defenses, team. Like, it's great that they started with this division. This is like the toughest division. December football. Oh, the amount of historic pieces that they started with this division. This is like the toughest division. December football. Oh, the amount of historic pieces that are going to come out. Oh, yeah. Because Tomlin, they're going to have Tomlin mic'd up talking about AFC North football. Because there's going to be some divisional game late.

Probably Baltimore. All of their division games are late. So it's going to be a Baltimore game where Tomlin and the team meeting is going to go through the history of the rivalry and the history of the AFC North. And they're going to be able to match it up. And every kid that grew up in any of these cities is going to just be like, oh, that's my childhood. That is my... Hey, congrats, NFL

Films. Feels like this is going to be a winner. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who is obviously a massive brain and incredible personality, and this past weekend was boozing with Marc Messier in Edmonton. Ladies and gentlemen, NHL vet, ESPN analyst, P.K. Subban. Yay!

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did a phenomenal job. Those three, four days we were there, the food, the fans, they deserved that win. And I found myself with every day that I was there actually cheering for the Oilers. I wanted to see them win. I mean, it was hard to not

want to see them have success. So big, big game tomorrow. But I did see Biz, saw the whole crew. It was hilarious. All the stuff on the Jumbotron. Mark Messier is an absolute, like, he's a god. I don't even know if that justifies what he is in Edmonton and in the game of hockey, but I've never seen anything like that before in my life.

The way that he was treated, the way that we were treated because of him was spectacular. So hats off to the Messiah. He's the man. Five Cups in Edmonton. More Mark Messier jerseys than probably McDavid jerseys in Edmonton. Like, Mess is the man. Yeah, Mark Messier won Stanley Cup in Edmonton post-Wayne O.

Wayne Gretzky being there as well. So obviously we'll live on forever as a hero in Edmonton, and he'll be on our show tomorrow. And Messiah will be on the show tomorrow, obviously. Day of the game. Let's talk about it. You said you were finding yourself rooting for Edmonton because the people of Edmonton were so spectacular to you. And I find myself doing that with game day.

When I go to a town, I'm like, I'm picking against this stupid team. I'm doing it. And then I get out and about and I meet the people and the coaching staff. I'm like, these people are way too nice. These people are way too nice to me. I appreciate the hell out of them. So I appreciate'm doing it. And then I get out and about and I meet the people and the coaching staff and I'm like, these people are way too nice. These people are way too nice to me. I appreciate the hell out of them, so I appreciate you doing that. But also as a sports fan, none of us were hoping or wishing for a sweep

except for Florida Panthers fans. Obviously, they win 8-1. Is that a sign of things to come? Did the Florida Panthers just kind of mail it in towards the end of this? And what are your thoughts on the momentum of the series now as it heads back to sunrise, PK? Well, there's definitely life in the Edmonton Oilers. And if you were in Edmonton for both games three and four,

especially game four, I don't think I've ever heard a building that loud. The energy in the building was contagious. They fed off of it. I think the scary part for the Florida Panthers about that game was, A, obviously everyone's going to question Bobrovsky, which I'm not going to question. I don't think it's going to be an issue for him. I think he's going to come back and be phenomenal in the next game.

I really do. He's too good of a goaltender, too good of a player. He's been too calm, too even-keeled throughout his career. He's always bounced back. But if I'm the Florida Panthers, what I'd be nervous about is how many players got in on the action in that game. I mean, all of Edmonton's depth were involved, from Holloway with three points. Obviously, McDavid had four points, but Holloway, Janmark,

Connor Brown was phenomenal on the penalty kill. All their depth players chipped in with goals. All their depth players got involved. So they've got a very, very competent team coming in the sunrise to play this game right now. So they've got to be a little bit nervous about that because the Edmonton Oilers from top to bottom right now have their whole team going on.

And to think about it, Connor McDavid at four points, he's just getting warmed up, I feel like, in this series. So for the Florida Panthers, they've got to find their game and find their game very, very quickly, especially five on five. They cannot allow the Edmonton Oilers to attack through the middle of the ice and have this much time and space. And if they do that, that McJesus guy is going to take over this series and anything's up for grabs.

In my opinion, this could still go 6-7, right? I had Florida winning this in 6. Okay, go ahead, AJ. PK, is there anything you could do to slow McDavid down? Because obviously we see all the points he's scoring, the assist, the goal. But when I sit there and watch as a casual fan that doesn't know a ton about hockey, the dude seems to facilitate all his teammates very well at the same time to where he's very patient.

He's dumping it off. He's looking for the open shot. He's not just being a selfish player. Can you talk about that and how much this guy actually means to the team and the league? Well, he's got so many tricks in his bag. You don't know which one he's going to use, right? So you can't take away all of his options.

Your first instinct is to contain them. And when you contain them, that means you're giving them time and space. You give the best players or the greatest player in the game right now, time and space, he's going to make you pay. And especially if Bobrovsky's not on his game, he becomes that much more scary. So he's finally found the back of the net. He's finding his teammates. But more importantly for me, for Florida, they have to get back to control in the middle of the ice. You let Conor McDavid penetrate through the neutral zone and get the middle of the ice. He'll penetrate.

How do you do that, though? How do you do it, AJ? Well, you can't let him penetrate it, AJ. How do I not let him penetrate? Well, exactly. You've got to clog up the middle. You've got to clog that. There's gaps in the ice. You've got to clog it up.. You've got to clog that. There's gaps in the ice.

You've got to clog it up. Let's get back to hockey here. So what I was saying, you've got to take... That's clogging. That's clogging. Clog it up. From the inside out. That's what you've got to do.

Especially when you've got McDaniel. He's quick. Like a rabbit in there. Hard to clog him. Can't get your hand up. He's not. Like a rabbit in there. Hard to clog him. He's not clogged up. He's not clogged up. You've got to take away the middle of the ice. They've got to get back to their five-on-five systems. They were way

too loose. Edmonton was just rolling on them. Edmonton, when they play with speed, that's their game. They're the faster team than Florida. They've got to play fast. When they play fast, Florida can't skate with them. When Florida can't slow the game down and take away the middle of the ice, it's all Edmonton.

And I'm going to tell you, Edmonton's only going to get better if that neutral zone opens up. So for Florida, they've got to get on the body. They've got to get their forecheck going. They have to make Edmonton play defense, keep them in their zone. For most of the series, Edmonton's had problems coming out of their zone. They have to attack those guys, the CCs. They got to stay physical on Darnell Nurse, stay physical on Broberg, stay physical on Bouchard. You can't allow those guys to break out easy out of their zone. Now they get up the ice and you saw what Darnell Nurse did on the fifth goal that, in my opinion,

put the game away. Puts it in the back of the net. He's up the ice. You've got to take away Edmonton's speed, especially out of their breakouts. Go ahead, D-Butch. Yeah, I kind of missed some of this game. I had a championship game of my own going on. How'd you do? We won. We won.

Ex-Athletics, Champions, Cobras. 11-0 season. How rest did you guys do? No, no, no. We did not. But next season. Next season. Yesterday's price is not today's price. Remember that.

Now you're a champion. You hit what? Five straight threes at one point? I did. Journalism here. Allegedly. No, no. Definitely. That's not a legend. We're not just talking shit. No, that's for sure. Okay. Journalism here. Allegedly. No, no, definitely, right? That's not a legend. We're not just talking shit. No, that's for sure. It's on the film.

Five in a row. It's on the film. I got to take it. I can't wait to see just the absolute ether highlight reel coming of D-Butch in the championship. Didn't touch the room. Any Jake Tatum's? No, no, Jake Tatum. I stay out of the paint.

I stay out of the paint. Tonight, though, buckle up for that tonight. You'll be seeing that tonight. Yes, we will. But game on. Maybe. Lost by 38. There was not a lot.

It was Luka. Luka. Luka. Luka. Tell him, PK. Tell him, PK. Guys, it's over tonight. It's over tonight.

Come on. But on that note, obviously. Tatum's MVP. Tatum will be MVP. We'll see. Tatum's MVP. Uh-huh. Tatum will be MVP. We'll see. Hey, we'll see. Hey, Tatum. We'll see. But Boston got that ass whooped, as did the Panthers.

So, obviously, me, Pat, AJ, we've all been a part of some ass kickings in the NFL. Sometimes you watch tape, and sometimes coach just comes in there like, hey, let's just burn that ball, not even talk about it, act like it never happened. Is that the situation you think for the Panthers? They just move on, get back to home ice, take care of business? Or do you kind of go over and over with that film to see, like, all those points you were talking about, slowing these guys down, getting physical, clogging it up?

Which direction do you think Paul Maurice and the Panthers go? Well, I think you'd be clinically insane to think that hockey players are going to play the perfect game for two months. I mean, you're playing against the best players and best teams in the National Hockey League every single night in the playoffs. So you're not going to always play your best game. Things are going to happen. Edmonton's a really good team with great players.

So, you know, that was their game. They had to win. It was a must win. They're playing for their lives. And, you know, Florida started the game late. You can't start any games late at this time of the year. Not in the Stanley Cup final. You give teams life.

So for Florida, they have to take advantage of home ice. They have to get back to their game plan. They have to take that and toss it right in the trash. There's no – I wouldn't be spending any time on that. I'd be shocked if they watched any clips from that game. I really would be. Knowing Paul Maurice, I'm sure he might talk about a few things that they're going to do schematically.

But other than that, it's, like, it's guys turn the page. We have a Stanley Cup to win. We have an opportunity to do it on home ice. First one in 30 years in the existence of the franchise. Like, that's what I'd be looking at. Let's get it done. And on that note, go ahead, Conman. Yeah, PK, because of that, is there a thought within the Panthers locker room?

Like, hey, we do not want to have to travel eight hours back to Edmonton. Like, we need to put this together here because that flight is such a nightmare. Or is that something that isn't even brought up? Oh, you don't have any time to think about that. I mean, winning the Stanley Cup is never easy. You got eight hours to think about it. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's like get on the plane, get your rest, and get ready for this.

When you win it, you're not going to think about how many flights it took. You're not going to care. You know, I mean, listen, last dance with Michael Jordan. Remember, I'm bringing one suit. We're going there to win a game. It's that same mentality. It's the next game. That's it. That's all.

There's nothing to think about. I mean, you get to win the Stanley Cup on home ice in front of your own fans. That's what I'd be thinking about right now. Not the flight. That flight would be the shortest flight ever. Coming home. Right in front of those loyal diehard Florida Panther fans. Let's go Cats.

Go Cats. That's it. You need to do that on with the Messiah. They didn't want to celebrate Edmonton. I mean, come on. Let's be honest. Edmonton's a great time. All the videos I've seen. I don't know about that. I don't know about that. They flew all their family. I heard their whole family, everybody flew in for that.

So I don't know about that. Their families, wives, girlfriends, girlfriends mothers dads all witnessed them you know take us back in eight one you know so i don't know about that i think they wanted to win in front oh so so they were ready to they're ready to jay tayton in edmonton all night with lordo family was there and everything well i'll tell you this pat win or lose we were doing that we were hitting the booze So win or lose, we were getting after it. Way to go.

A little bit of a runaway. A little bit of a gong show. Are you in a robe right now? I am in a robe right now. I'm extremely comfortable. It's spa day, recovery day. Just a reset day for me. Every day is spa day, right?

Every day. Correct. That's correct. So have you done? Okay. So when have you done? Okay. So when did you travel? And are you in Florida now? Yeah, we're in Florida now.

We got in yesterday. We jumped on the charter with the NHL guys. Where we sit? We're sitting coach? You're sitting coach? No, I was sitting directly behind mess and leaves and specifically waited until they fell asleep to get a selfie of them when they were passed out. It was a great one.

I'm going to get it framed. I'm going to have it in my basement, in my man cave. And yeah, I already posted it. You look on my social media. It's right there. Already exposed the Messiah. Completely exposed. And Steve Levy as well.

He thought he was safe. Take a little snooze yep yep nope wrong i got you i got you okay so wrong guy how many hours were you there he is there it is isn't that great look at that how cute is that can we zoom in on that photo look can we zoom in look even looks mess looks mess looks serious even when he's sleeping checking to see if he's alive. We're a little bit too up and down for an eight-hour flight in my eyes. I don't know if that's a secret.

Well, hold on. I can't leave him completely out to dry because I was sleeping too, and I just happened to wake up a little bit before they did, and I got the flight attendant to snap that picture. AQ Shipley. A lot of assholes with their windows open when people are trying to sleep. Exactly. Guy's ass out has his window open when people are trying to sleep. Exactly. Well, that's the scout that has his window open. Look at that thing shining off his head.

The hell? Is that the back of the plane or the front of the plane there? That's the back of the plane. That's the back of the plane. Messon Leaves got the most leg room out of anybody. They got the emergency exit seat.

They got the exit seats it, the emergency exit seat? Exit room. They got the exit seats with all the snack trays and all of that. As they should. As they should. And Levy puts his seat back all the way. I can't even put my laptop. I can't watch any shows. I'm basically

like this. Eight hours, PK. Eight hours. That's a long-ass time. We appreciate you sacrificing in the sky for all of us and covering it all. What's going on? Look at that. You see the hat that Messier has on? Elbow. Elbow. Elbow room.

Elbow room. That's an elbow room spotting. Right there. He knows. Hey, Moose. We knows. What a legend. Hey, Moose, we love you, Moose. Hey, Pat, he really is a legend, though. He's the best.

I don't know. I've had so much fun doing this job, hanging with him and leaves, like going to dinner every night and just talking hockey with these guys. Mess is hilarious. Unbelievable. I wish I would have played in the 80s. Like honestly. I wish I would have played in the 80s with those guys.

I would have traded any day. Yeah, I mean, maybe. All right. Hey, we appreciate the hell out of you. We don't know in the 80s what things would have been said in the hockey community, but we know that you would have been good in any decade, any

generation, because your moxie is flawless and your coverage of hockey this postseason with the NHL has been amazing. We appreciate the hell out of you. Good luck with the rest of your spa day, PK. Thanks, Jets. I'm hitting the beach now. I'm going to get a crazy tan. I'll be crispy tomorrow

on the air, so look out for that. What color suit we got tomorrow? It's going to be sort of a minty green. I'm going with a summery vibe. Minty green, white shirt, white pants, and then you have to check out the shoes. We'll be standing tomorrow. We won't be sitting, so you'll be able to get a shot.

Thank God. Thank God. All right, ladies and gentlemen, PK is your man. Hey, PK. Glad you played when you did, PK. Yeah. I was going to say, PK, I don't think you were. The 80s.

What do you mean? I thought those Bruins-Canadians games were allowed when he was there in 2010. Jeez Louise. Couldn't even imagine. All right, a lot of stuff happening around sport. Obviously, the NHL is game five of the NHL Finals tomorrow. The game five of the NBA Finals will tip off this evening at 8.30 on ABC. We cannot wait for that.

There's a lot of stuff happening around the NFL. There's some drama, actually. What? Yeah, we went to the TikTok, you know, the platform that still exists. Yep. Has a shot clock on it, though. It has a shot clock on it. I think it's down to like six months.

It has to be sold from the company that owns it to an American company or I think any country's company other than China. I think. Not sure. And TikTok will exist. It still exists right now. And Brandon Ayuk, wide receiver for the San Francisco 49ers, is currently blogging his entire situation with contract, free agency,

franchise tag. The Niners have another wide receiver they drafted in the first round out of Florida. Who's going to get left out? Who's going to get paid? He's been blogging it all. In the latest clip that we have seen, I mean, this is a big one. Right at Foxy.

Bro, look in the camera. Look at the camera. He got me vlogging this shit. Okay, so we're vlogging the whole thing. They said they don't want me back. I swear. Okay, so that's the clip that we saw, and that's Jaden Daniels, new quarterback for the Washington Commanders, who was obviously drafted in the first round to go be the quarterback of this next generation of the Commanders team.

He, as a freshman quarterback at Arizona State, connected greatly with Iuke as a senior wide receiver at Arizona State. The relationship has obviously been closely monitored throughout this entire process. With Jane Danes at one point even saying he knew where he was headed in the draft. They have $45 million in cap space over there at the Washington Commanders. Is this video that I just watched on TikTok from Brandon Iyuk's blogging

of the entire thing telling me that he's going to the Commanders, AJ? Congrats to the Commanders getting Brandon Ayuk is how I took that video right there. Yeah, I guess there could be something to that, but I mean, it's a bit surprising to hear him say the Niners didn't want him. There's no way they didn't want him, but they just don't want to offer him what he

feels like he deserves. Is that what it is? It's got to be the only thing. Did his agent tell him that they said they don't want him back did the offer that they made him tell him that they didn't want him back is the entire thought of drafting another wide receiver not getting his deal done telling him that they don't want him back giving mccaffrey more money sure re redoing his contract to give him more money in this entire thing they They have Brock Purdy on the lowest rookie salary possible for another two years. So are they giving money elsewhere?

It's a wild video clip that we see there. And does Jaden Daniels have enough pull as a rookie quarterback in Washington to say, all right, you guys heard it. Get me Iyuk over here. Is that what's taking place in the video? It seems like that's what I just saw. I don't know, but I would love it.

I would love Iyuk going over there and get paired up with Terry Mack, Terry McLaurin, give Jayden Day. It'll be similar to what's going on in Chicago, putting all those weapons around Caleb to be successful early. It makes sense from a game. You're obviously going to be locked into that Daniels contract for the next few years with a rookie deal. Bring a talent like this over.

And all those things you mentioned, you get to this point in in the league you kind of start reading that writing on the wall you know you're drafting this guy you're paying that guy and then maybe you did have a direct conversation with the team just saying hey you know what he just probably doesn't fit into our future plans but i am surprised that he let this clip out at this point i feel like this is probably something that you put out after the fact but but it's a new day and age. Yeah, it might be leverage trying to be gained by IUC to let the entire world know, like, hey, I am very available if you want to make a play. Or maybe they're talking about a friend group in town.

True, true. That's possible. And Jane Day was like, thank God I knew this other group was the right. This mucky duck group is the right group out of San Francisco as opposed to the one. But all indications is Iyuk isn't happy in San Fran. And now, seemingly, San Fran isn't happy with Iyuk in San Fran. This is wild. And can he come to the Colts, I guess?

Is that just something? What's a team have to do to try to get Iyuk? What would they have to do? He would have to sign franchise tag, and then they would have to trade. But then there would also have to be a deal done and an exchange to the Niners of some sort because with the franchise tag, you owe them. Now, that is all negotiable because at one point we heard, well, it's going to take two ones if you want to trade a franchise tag player,

so how much do you want somebody? And then we learned quickly, like, that's not real. That is a negotiable thing. There just says that there has to be something that has to take place yeah it's the same situation as the jerry sneed right where everyone thought that the jerry sneed was going to get moved for a you know a ton of stuff and then he it was a second and a fifth or a second and a fourth to go to tennessee and then immediately got his new deal so you assume that would be the case but it is going to be crazy when it comes through because if this is real, and even though it was

reported that they offered him a contract of $26.5 million or whatever per year, and who knows the guarantees and all that, so I don't know if they don't want him per se, but maybe they told him that. Is it though? That's a low ball because he's the number one wide out. Even on that team, he's clear-cut the number one wide out. Pippen got like what?

$23? $27? $27 a year. And then everybody else is 30 and up at this point Amara, everybody else that got paid so I think at this now depending on when they offer that before Pittman's deal maybe not such a low ball offer but once again you kind of know what that

market is if you're a number one receiver if you're a number one corner and when this type of shit starts happening now that price obviously drops. Now we know we don't have to give just like with Snead. He was probably the best corner in football wide or wide last year, but you knew the Chiefs,

he wasn't going to be in the financial plans going forward. So if they is the Niners, they said they don't want me back. This is a pretty powerful statement. It is. It is, yes. And the fact that it was just released because he is blogging powerful statement. It is. It is, yes. And the fact that it was just released because he is blogging

that shit. Right. That is a message to, you bought that shit. Okay, you know, that is a message to every team. Like, hey, listen, come and get me. This is a situation. I'll be excited to see where he ends up. I mean, any team that gets Brandon

Iuke is going to be pumped at this point. New England. Yeah, there's – Any team that – Well, the Niners won him for one year. They won him for one year on the franchise tag. That's what they won him, right? Bingo. But also, you can probably get something in return,

and they probably feel as if they have a plethora of wide receivers. So if they said they don't want him back now, why would you say that before the year? I don't know. That feels like a – Hey, Ayuk, we'll see you at training camp. Also, we don't want you here. Yeah.

So you can come, obviously, because you're scheduled at training camp. Also, we don't want you here. So you can come, obviously, because you're scheduled to find, but also we don't want you. That has to be an indicator that this thing is all but sailed down the river. Yeah, for sure. And I think, I mean, we talked about this as guys started to get resized, their deals got reworked. It's like, okay, I mean, that was the assumption on draft night when they drafted a receiver, but then you pay Juwan Jennings,

you redo McCaffrey's deal. It's like, okay, yeah, he's not in the plans going forward because if they really did value him as a number one receiver, they would have gotten this done a while ago. Phenomenal football player. Yes. Phenomenal football player. Any team that gets him, obviously people understand

that you're going to have to pay him. That means your salary cap still has money, which there's a lot of teams that still have some wiggle room. And if you pick up Brandon Ayuk, your fan base is going to be pumped. He knows that he's walking into a parade from somewhere, wherever he heads to. Good luck to all parties involved, including Indianapolis Colts. Come on, Patriots. Come on.

Bring them in. Jaden Danielson hits the block, pretty much, his response, that they're going to the Commanders. Maybe that's how they take it away. This weekend in football, congratulations to the Birmingham Stallions. Giddy up, Skip Holtz. The Birmingham Stallions win their third straight championship. They won the USFL, the USFL, and then they won the UFL. They are an absolute wagon down there, a dynasty of sorts

that spans multiple leagues now. The big takeaway from the weekend, obviously, the Stallions tough to beat. Mark White King, I believe, did a halftime performance. Shout out to him. Kurt Warner played catch with his son. Kurt Warner also got the game ball from a robotic dog. Which I don't love. I don't love.

German Shepard should have had that son of a bitch strapped to the back and ran that thing right out there. We don't need to be bringing out these little metal killers with four legs at this particular stage of life. That's 2027, 2028. We are still in the old-school dog world, but that's not Kurt Warner's fault. He grabbed the ball perfectly.

Wade Phillips, first time in a championship game as a head coach. San Antonio Braumas, they would go on to lose in a 25-zip shutout, okay, to the Stallions. But big story of the game, Tom Brady was there. Tom Brady awarded the MVP. He also was doing a sample test run for the upcoming NFL season in a booth that was not being televised. But he did make a stop in the booth with Joe Klott.

And I'll tell you, I think we need to judge every word and sentence that he said to see how he's going to do this upcoming fall. Here's Tom Brady live from the booth at the UFL Championship. Handsome, tall, looks good. So could tie. Hair looks amazing. Jokes! Joel is not small. go down there on the field anymore. You can't play in it? Jokes! He's joining us here at Fox Sports. I'm sure you have heard his analyst this fall.

Can't wait to see him. Joel is not small. So far, what are your impressions of this early going championship game? Sometimes teams can be a little bit tight. It looks like it may be right here. They're all a little different. Oh, speak from experience. And there's a lot of defense out there right now. Very calm.

Defense can go out there and play with a lot of energy. But someone's got to get the ball down the field and try to open this field up. It's a lot of horizontal passes and the defense is swarming and trying to punch the ball out so make them defend every blade of grass that's what he said and then and as a quarterback sometimes you just got to go to your play caller you say hey give me something you know like let me go attack here on this series let's get a play flight going let's get a safety down and try to get this ball down the seat that's gonna work all right had some jokes personal experience, little film breakdown, judging the defense, how they could fix it.

I mean, they had it all there in 40 seconds with Tom Brady. Somebody mentioned in there he was addressing both Menifee and Joel Klatt, who's an absolute legend in the booth. I think he was trying to prove himself to Joel Klatt, who has obviously been proven to be a fantastic color commentator for football games in the booth alongside Gus Johnson and everybody else. I think Tom Brady did a great job there. And to your point, he looked like he was 6'11". He looked like an absolute giant in there. Yeah, that's going to be a thing. Burkhardt's big, though. Burkhardt will be his play-by-play guy. They'll look good in the booth together. But

I thought he was calm. I thought it was great. But is there a more anticipated athlete to the booth than Tom Brady? Everybody was calm. I thought it was great, but is there a more anticipated athlete to the booth than Tom Brady? Everybody is going to be judging everything this guy says. We just broke down every word he said in a 40-second piece. That's going to happen for the first 10 weeks of the NFL season.

People aren't going to be nice either. I think he's going to be good. I think Tom Brady is going to be very good just because how prepared he is and also screw the preparation. Things he's going to be good. I think Tom Brady is going to be very good just because how prepared he is and also, screw the preparation. Things are just going to pop up in a game that's going to spur him to...

He might be a little bit long-winded. There might be a story that comes that isn't in the right place. That type of stuff. But those things for the first couple years I think we'll be able to run off of because we're going to learn... He's going to say, when we played some team they tried to do this exact thing. The way to beat this is whenever you do this instead of this and he'll start drawing it out there and like and if a team doesn't do that they're continuing to feed right

into the hand like this is exactly what this defense what you do like i think we're going to have a good experience with tom brady and obviously he's a good speaker we know that from everything he has accomplished and done it's's like, I'm pumped for Tom to get in there. Don't think Greg Olson deserves to be second fiddle anywhere. Not at all. That guy was unbelievable. But I think Tom's going to be great, AJ. I legitimately think that. Yeah, he will.

And I think it doesn't have to be perfect. That's the good thing. Like, just be authentic. Be Tom. That's what we want to see. We want to know, like, what you're thinking when you watch a game. That's all we care about. If he could have been a little more transparent about things being tight

in championship games, though. Yep. Like, if he would have told a story about a teammate in the first championship game there. You know, now you're like, now we're opening up. Now we're being a little bit more. But I think that is all going to come with time. Saving it.

Yeah, exactly. Just saving that goal. Oh, yeah. UFL champ. UFL champ. But it would be great. Like, the situational stuff, pre-snap, like what we loved Romo for when he first got in the booth.

You know, hey, we got single high here, probably going backside X. So, like, all that stuff, the situational football, what I love from Greg Olson. Like, I feel like that's my favorite part of him calling games, just situation, getting out of bounds, two-minute drills. Can't wait to see all that from Tom. He'll be great. And, like, what we know about what Belichick would take them through

in meetings. Like, he's going to know the tree of the defensive coordinator and where he comes from and why he's calling the defense his way. It is going to be unbelievable. I hope it's great. Yeah, Bill Belichick had a big weekend. We learned a lot about Bill. Yes, we did.

Never been prouder to have his name tattooed on this arm. At least we got answers from that video. Are you guys talking about he had an ex in the Instagram account? Yes. That was him? Yeah.

Allegedly. I don't know. Which is fascinating because he should have social media. He should have his own accounts, I believe, personally. But the way that thing just showed up on the internet yesterday and then was just assumed to be Bill Belichick. It's a great name. Eight rings.

Yeah, perfect. That's a great name if you want to flex it. The header photo. Belichick.com-ing soon. In different colors. Yeah, in different colors. I thought that was brilliant. I'm like, that'd be a Bill Belichick move.

I think that would be pretty genius. But then that thing just disappeared kind of. Yeah, it was weird. This morning when I went to click on it, it wouldn't load or anything of that nature. But I don't know. It felt as though, because of the people that were already following him, a lot of beat writers in New England, that it was legit. I don't know. Nobody knows.

Nobody knows. You think Bill told the beat writer? You know? No way. Yeah, exactly. I have no idea. But out of nowhere, it just had 6,000 followers. And usually, it takes a little while for people. Well, that's because there was legit people saying it was real. Yeah, exactly. I have no idea. But out of nowhere, it just had 6,000 followers. And usually it takes a little while for people.

Well, that's because there was legit people saying it was real. Yeah. But are those legit people legit people now? Those legit people ask Bill, hey, is this you? Did Field Yates come out and say, yup, I want to know Field Yates is a big deal. There you go. Because we learned that he knows Field Yates since Field Yates was born. Yeah, on this earth.

So if Field Yates was following that account, then'll believe that we sure that is how we know all eyes are on field yates on whether or not bill belichick has social media and bill belichick is in a new relationship from what i've been told time yeah apparently he's dating you know some former cheerleader about 25 years old just having the time of his life 24 i believe 24 excuse me i knew it was in that ballpark and it wasn't a patriots cheerleader she was a professional cheerleader yeah correct so difference 25 he's like leo 25 too much it's a professional cheerleader they uh compete against other professional cheerleader squads yeah they can cheer for this thing even if it's not a thing exactly better than you can cheer for your thing that like that movie it's like a cheer like our team like when albany's like a cheer. Like our team.

Like the high school cheerleading competition. She was doing that. Those do exist. The Plum High School cheerleaders, I think, are dominant. We are all Mustangs here. Fund has helped with the Plum Mustang cheerleaders a couple times. Go do battle in these cheerleader competitions. So I know a little bit about it. But then there's professionals.

They are. We're talking. Yeah. Yeah. Great. Four flips. Oh, the flips and all that. Okay, cool.

Like if you saw, you know, there's bison they're trying to put up at the Buffalo Bills new stadium. Tiny ones. Yeah. 16 feet high. Yeah. There are some of these professional teams are like, our team is better than your team. They throw.

Yeah. But they don't have a team. But it's the team. They than your team. They throw. But they don't have a team. But it's the team. They are a team. But they're not cheering for a team. No, they're cheering for their team. Their own team. They're talking shit for their team.

What's that? You're saying bring it on? Independent contract? I'm confused. No, they are a team. I'm cheering for themselves. Do they get hired out to cheer for kids' teams? Like if I want to hire them for one?

Competition only. What are we talking, 1099s? Yeah, we're talking independent contracts. I I think they're part of a team. They're professionals. That's who allegedly Bill Belichick is dating. I would assume that he is pumped up. I assume there's

a lot of pep. He's a professional cheerleader. He's got a good pump going. Learning a lot. Professional cheerleader. Yeah, he's got a good pump going. Learning a lot. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who I assume has good pump going on as well. It was his second time winning the title, but nonetheless, he is the reigning, defending, undisputed,

shout out to Paul Heyman, U.S. Open champion, representing the Crushers from Live Golf, Bryson DeChambeau. Hell yeah. Bryson! What up? How are you, man? How's your day? How's it going?

Hey, great. How was the night? I saw you stick around afterwards and meet and greet everybody and go to the stand and take that thing around to all the people. I don't think I've ever seen a golfer do that. Why'd you do that? And how'd the night continue to go? Brother, congratulations.

Well, thanks. Thanks for having me on, guys. It's been a whirlwind. I'm a little wrecked, I can tell you that, but it was a lot of fun last night, and the fans were all a part of that win. Throughout the whole week, they were cheering me on, they were pushing me, they were encouraging me, giving me all the stuff I

needed to win, and so i thought uh what better uh moment for me to just go out there and show the fans all the respect that they deserve for pushing me to win this uh title it's beautiful we all loved watching along and we all enjoyed like your baby face turn baby face is good guy in wrestling and i don't know if you hear what the conversation is around you right now but a lot lot of people are like, wait a minute, I actually love. Yeah. Do I love Bryson DeChambeau? I love Bryson DeChambeau. Obviously with your YouTube, with your style of play, with the way you're handling yourself on the course, you like got jacked up before a putt when everybody else is locked in. You're telling the fans, no, I'm not going for the green. I'm not. Get off my ass. I'm not going for the green i'm not get off my ass i'm not going for the green i'm doing this like do you feel that do

you think it's you maturing do you think it's people learning more about you what do you think it is and like how does it feel to have everybody on earth loving you at this moment legitimately it's it's an honor i'm thankful i'm gracious i can tell you that youtube has definitely opened up a lot of doors for me. It's allowed me to express my full self and just get a little bit older too, my man. I'm not too old. I'm 30. But what I can tell you is I've learned a lot from the lows that I've had and the people that have been around me. They've pushed me in the right direction and realized how much golf has given me. And so it's time to give back. It's time to give back to this great

game and what it does for people and humans. I couldn't be more thrilled to have this be a part of the United States win. It's everyone here. It's everyone that's pushed me to make this happen. Hell yeah. And we can feel it. Like you being a face of golf was very evident in like representing the sport. He's very pure, especially with your performance yesterday. But through YouTube, through the videos, D-Butt here.

I mean, he talked about how kind you were to him and how much you helped him throughout the... Yo, baby, hey, congratulations again, man. Great freaking performance. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you. You inspired me, by the way. You inspired me with those bombs out there

after I gave you a little lesson on D-Box. Okay! Confirm, boys. We thought he was, you know, since playing with D-Buck, you're one for one in majors, so we assumed D-Buck was a massive piece of it, but he talked about,

he's done a couple of these before with, like, Phil Mickelson. He talked about how Phil Mickelson, like, didn't seem obligated, but, like, very much wanted to help Darius and his love of golf. He said the same thing for you, man. It is, everything we're hearing

about these shambo is wonderful it is and you deserve it brother you deserve it all thank you it's awesome no it was a lot of fun guys thank you okay so let's go to some highlights from yesterday you said after the tournament that you could hear with the crowd kind of what was happening with rory because he's one hole ahead of you when you tee off at 18 you hear the usa chance and the groans and you know what happened with rory or did you just know something was up where were you so i was missing my drive all right yesterday and i had to make sure i missed it left give myself a chance to the green no matter what and i over pulled it just a little bit and i thought i get the TIO relief from that immovable obstruction and get maybe a good lie or something like that. But unfortunately, I got under a tree, around roots.

I could have injured my hand even. And I barely had a sliver of a chance to get on the green. Yeah, I smoked. That was 94 ball speed. Jeez. And then I was trying. Look at this. I had no shot there.

No business going for the green. But I pushed it, and it went out into the bunker. And that was a 55-yard bunker shot, literally the hardest shot in golf. Yeah, there's roots everywhere. Hold on. Hey, Bryson, hold on, though. You say literally hardest shot in golf. It's like we've learned a lot about you since this whole thing,

and we will continue on YouTube and ESPN Plus and TikTok. We will see you tomorrow. Have a great night. Goodbye, ESPN. Okay, so the linear television is now over. We are on YouTube, ESPN Plus, TikTok. We will see you tomorrow. Have a great night. Goodbye, ESPN. Okay, so the linear television is now over. We are on YouTube, ESPN Plus, and TikTok Live still. There are still people watching. But we saw this video from YouTube.

We don't know when the video was, but this is what you actually said. You can give me nightmares. It's not over water. It's not a skull. It's not a shank. It's a 65-yard bunker shot. There you go. Yeah, you said that on your youtube

and then in the media book uh for live it says shot that gives you most difficulty 60 yard bunker shot okay so that is so now you're staring down a 55 yard bunker shot as you walk in there have you already faced your fears enough to get this shot to be one of your best in the game since those quotes have come out or were you thinking about this all the way through the shot out of the sand to, what, three feet or something? Yeah, three feet 11 inches. Yeah, what's funny about it is I actually played it like a 35-yard bunker shot, so technically it wasn't 65,

but still it ran out all the way, you know, it ran out that far, and it was a 55, 60-yard bunker shot. But ultimately, nobody wants to have that shot in the game of golf. It's near impossible and I hit it perfect, guys. It was the most perfect shot I've hit in my entire career and it was probably the greatest shot of my entire life.

Congratulations. Stand down your fear. The Big Bad Voodoo Daddy's right here. All you need to do is go up and down and you win another major, another U.S. Open. And last question for me before the boys have theirs, including AJ, like, I'm pissed, DeChambeau, okay? I spent the weekend with you. I enjoyed the hell out of watching you golf. The way you swing, the way you scrambled five of 15 on fairways yesterday and still

win the entire thing, like, the way you scrambled, the way on fairways yesterday and still win the entire thing. The way you scrambled, the way you handled yourself, the composure, the USA chance, what you represented, big win. It was good to see you back. The putter that was called into question where you were knocking it down. Everything. I loved the weekend. Then I learned through the thing, you can't be on the Olympic team because you didn't get any points for the world golf rankings because live doesn't count because it's only 54 you've made it into the top 10 with just majors

somehow without all the other tournaments that i assume you do well at like where do you stand on this are you incredibly bummed out that you're not able to represent the united states and i'd like to let you know i think i speak for everybody in the united states we wish you were representing the u.s at the olympics brother well appreciate those words. I would love to represent the United States. It was tough for me not to go last time around because of COVID. And it's just one of those things that happened. And, you know, hopefully one day this game of golf will get figured out and come back together and I'll be able to play. I'm playing great golf. I'm excited. But ultimately, yeah.

Am I frustrated, disappointed? Sure, you can absolutely say that, but I made the choices that I made and there's consequences to that and I respect it, but hopefully sooner rather than later we figure that out. This great game of golf, we can get past all that and move forward into showing how awesome this sport actually is around the globe i appreciate you taking responsibility and saying i made

choices yada yada yada team usa can make choices too they can say yep exactly hit the big long ball whack yes they can amen go ahead aj bryson what time did you end up leaving uh pinehurst last night it seemed like you were there all night i'm watching johnson wagner recreate your shot out of the sand and you pop up. They give you a mic, and you do a whole thing with him, and he hits a beautiful shot. You give him the trophy. It was an awesome thing.

But what made you stay there that long? Was that the plan, or just everything kind of happened? It just all happened. I mean, the fans were still out there waiting for me. They were shutting down the whole golf course. Shuttles were leaving the golf course. So fans, I think a couple fans might have gotten stuck. I don't know but uh i was probably around 12 12 30 because we had to catch a flight it was 12 o'clock we had to

catch a flight around 12 30 and then back at where i was staying the whole neighborhood came around and just gathered in support and i signed more back there there's a police officers around it was a lot of fun uh but it's around 12 30 we left um we had some stuff out of here oh yeah yeah oh yeah did you get that sand out of there you never want to drink sand obviously no no we cleaned that out we got that safe and secured so uh did that and then flew over the big apple here today doing a little uh yeah perfect exactly and with todd um doing a little perfect, exactly. With Todd. Doing a little media tour and then now headed off to Nashville tomorrow. Okay, so what was the drink of choice out of the

what's the name of the thing? What's the name of the what's that thing? The Clare Chug is the other one. No, that's the British Open. Well, you need to go win that too. You're plus a thousand or something. What did we drink out of there last night? No, that's the British Open. Well, you need to go win that, too. You need to go win that, too. You're plus 1,000 or something. That's the United States Open Championship.

What did we drink out of there last night? What are we doing? Are we doing beers? Are we doing mixed drinks? I actually did wine. I'm a big wine guy. Oh. Oh.

Classy. Super classy. It was nice. It was beautiful. Everybody drank out of it. I handed it around the office it was a lot of fun um everybody that was there we celebrated accordingly and uh we uh had some champagne out here too we shot it around the room it was fun did you do the uh the wipe off after you drank the

wine out of the communion the pope the communion does like, well, the Pope... I'm not that classy, so... Okay, yeah, just swallow it back. Let's get back to the on-course action. Go ahead, Tom. Yeah, Bryson, one of my favorite moments from yesterday was, I think it was on 13, Rory had just made Birdie to take a two-shot lead, and then you just were like, all right, I'm going to drive the green and give me an eagle up.

Were you always going to pull out driver there, or was it a circumstance after we went down two? It was actually my – Fairway Wood, I think, as he – Yeah, it was Fairway Wood. Right there. Yeah, we lost him. He's gone forever.

Yeah, they said he – Yeah, he had to club down to drive the green. And how high he tees it because he – on a par four, 316 yards. For how high he tees it because he, on a par four, 316 yards. For how high he tees it because he is one of those long drive guys. He worked with the long drive guys. It's like that fairway wood, there was a good amount. He could have went right under that ball.

Oh, yeah. You know, like one of us. It appeared it, though. Would have absolutely. Yeah, instead he rolls it right up there. Bryson, I believe you were telling us that was a fairway wood, 316, hole 13, par four that you drove the green on as you're losing the lead. Can you hear us still? Bryson, I believe you were telling us that was a fairway wood, 316, hole 13, par 4, that you drove the green on as you're losing the lead.

Can you hear us still? Sorry, boys. It's all right. You back? I'm back. I'm right here, ready to go. Okay, fairway wood almost overdrove the green in a PGA major, in an event in a U.S. Open. Use fairway wood, drive the green. When you hit this, you think you hit a hole in one. It was right at the flag.

I definitely had a chance. And when I heard the crowd roar, I knew it was going to be somewhat close and on the green, but I had to do it. Rory went up to, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I've got,

I got to get it, get it back somehow. This is a problem. Cause Rory's one of the best to play sport ever. And you know, he's not usually going to give it up that easily and fortunately after I pumped it up there and played the way I did, got up and down the next hole

three putt of the next hole, missed like a four footer, three and a half footer. I was like oh my gosh. But he missed a couple coming in and I just stayed the course and was steady Eddie in the last three holes. Okay, so obviously you missed a couple putts. He missed a couple putts which is I just stayed the course and was steady Eddie in the last three holes. Okay, so obviously you missed a couple putts. He missed a couple putts, which is going to be the conversation. I heard you basically sing the praises of Rory

and basically saying, like, that sucks, that that's how that went. But for me, it's great news. If you're Rory, and for you, how do you get that out of there? Because I'm a terrible golfer. So I'd be thinking about what happened on 16 probably for the rest of my life. And then on 18 for it to happen again, well, that's just because it happened on 16. This is my new normal. How do you golfers get on that?

Is it work? Do you do something else? What do you think for him? Everybody has their own coping mechanisms. And mine, for example, I just try to be like Dory. I just forget. Literally, whatever happened immediately past, just completely forget.

I know it's so cliche and kind of funny to say, but for me, I literally just don't even try to think about it and just go forward and move forward. Whatever happened, happened. When I lost the PGA, I was on to the next. It's like, oh, okay, got to go on the next one. That was kind of my thought process going into it. And that's the way I hope Rory is. And, look, he's a great golfer.

I'd love to have more battles with him. Love to duke it out. Excited for the British Open next month. Yeah, we need to get that sorted and figured out because we'd like to see you battle with him as well. Ty, I have a question for you. DeChambeau? Bryson, you talked about how your game and you as a person have grown and evolved,

but how difficult is it when you're playing at a place like Pinehurst when you have to be so precise with the greens and everything and you can't really afford to hit a bad shot? For a guy like you who can hit the absolute shit out of the ball, how difficult is it being like, oh, I need to play smart and I need to play safe here as opposed to just like the clip we just saw where it's like, hey, I have this play smart and I need to play safe here as opposed to just, you know, like the clip we just saw where it's like, hey, I have this in my bag. I can drive the green here.

I can be longer than anyone else if I have to. So, funny enough, I was trying to say boring golf all week. That was my goal. And consequently, at the end of the tournament, I didn't. It was the driver quite a bit everywhere and uh my iron play was unbelievable that week though that that was the whole key if i if i iron played it well and putted well i'd have a good chance because i knew i could get out of the native area if i didn't hit the driver perfect i'd still be able to get out of the native area

uh relatively okay and my wedge game putting and iron play had to be perfect even though my driving wasn't uh that's certainly what i was focused on and shoot boring golf it wasn't fully boring golf but uh hopefully i showed the fans a little a little excitement yeah yeah nobody i mean you had to tell the crowd to relax when you weren't going for the green one time because everybody wants to see big golf ball whacker guy i mean that is that is certainly happy gilmore yeah bingo okay you understand that though like hey i can do something that is certainly happy gilmore yeah bingo okay you understand that though like hey i can do something that not a lot of humans can do they deserve to watch it they're

hot as shit out here at pinehurst and let's give them the show when you're missing fairways though and you're ending up in this native grounds that are can be incredibly dangerous to your game even though you they just talked about how lucky you got every time. This guy's so lucky. So that's all they kept saying on the broadcast or whatever. I never had a good line in the native area. I'm telling you. There was multiple times where it looked like a good line, but when I set the club down, there was roots. There was little branches and things like that.

It was very difficult to hit out of there. And then times when I did have someone with a clean line, I was standing on the bushes and the little little things. Yeah. So it wasn't I don't even remember one time where I got a perfect lie with a perfect stance out of there. Maybe once, maybe twice, but it was not more than that. Well, good fighting through there. What they were telling us is you were incredible. I mean, you were stepping on the shit, the grass, the what was the type of grass? Well, yeah, fescue grass, any sort of thing. On 12, I literally had to pitch out sideways.

So, I mean, it wasn't that lucky. No, yeah, super lucky. Super, super lucky. But as you're teeing up and you have the weight of the world of being big golf ball whacker guy, but we see you take your fairway wood and just put that thing literally on top of the hole for a 330-yard drive or whatever. How hard is that conversation to have? And why did you think you were spraying it so much yesterday? Have you dissected and figured that whole thing out yet?

Yeah, so I switched heads right before the round, trying to put a fresh head in there to make sure it didn't spin as much, curve as much. Because when I hit the ball i flattened faces so you know it starts to curve a lot more because of that and so i put a fresh head in there and ultimately just didn't work it in i guess you could say uh and so it was just missing a little bit right and i wasn't turning over the way it normally does uh with a head that's worked in. But the 3-wood, it was an easy decision because it was 315, 320 yards, and my driver goes 330. So I wanted to just smoke something up there right next to the pin instead of fly the green.

Yeah, but if you do this on every hole, you're probably 12 under. You know, like that is. So that has to be a tough, legitimately, that has to be a tough conversation as you see like the first – Yeah, go ahead. I'll tell you, my driver is usually my strong suit, so I don't know what really happened on Sunday, but I'm going to go work that out. I'll get it figured out. You earned it.

You earned it. You earned it. The big meathead will be able to figure it out. We can't wait to watch it. Go ahead, Connor. Yeah, Bryson, one of the things right away with the tournament was how the greens were when you hear that is that something that makes you think like oh i'm in a great spot then because of the way you drive the ball and how close you can get yeah absolutely um if i've just got wedges in all day hit 15 20 feet and hopefully

think a few of those and give myself a great chance a lot of guys were having long irons in and um you know they weren't making as many pods so i try to give myself a great chance a lot of guys were having long irons in and um you know they weren't making as many putts so i tried to give myself as many opportunities albeit i did in the last day i made a lot uh when you win tournaments like this one you got to make a lot of putts no matter what no matter the situation that was really sweet that was a cool that was a cool thing there you know hey what was the deal with these clubs? You got 3D printer made club. What happened with your clubs? Can I buy these or no?

No, they're a one-of-one. There we go. Yeah, what is different? It's this club right here. This is an 8-iron. No, pitching wedge. Excuse me. Pitching wedge. What's different is that you can actually... I got a chandelier above me. Give me a sec. Yeah, it's all right. This is the eight iron. Oh, no, pitching wedge. Excuse me. Pitching wedge. And so what's different is that you can actually... I got a chandelier above

me. Give me a sec. Yeah, it's all right. You're the champ. You can actually see the curvature on the face. It's a little bit easier maybe this way. That's subtle. Let me get you a big one. So the pitching wedge is the least about a curve. Let me get you a better one. Yes, please do. Please do. We would

like to understand what the hell's going on with your clubs because it was a big topic of discussion, obviously. What do normal clubs have? So they're flat-faced. They're completely flat. So there we go.

You can see it's subtle, but the heel and toe is not flat. It's curved just a little bit here and here. So it's arcing like this where the toe is pointed right and the heel is pointed left and the center of the is pointed straight so if you look at like a three wood five this is a five wood you can see the amount of curvature on a oh yeah on a

yeah yeah so you see the heels pointed left, toes pointed to the right. So it's a modified version of that where I realized I was swimming it super fast. So consequently, when I go to the irons, I have to have a little bit of curvature at the lower lofted clubs. Higher lofted clubs, nah, it doesn't matter. It's fine. Okay. So that's what allows me when I hit it on the toe. When I hit it on the toe, it starts farther right.

So most clubs, when they're flat, I hit it on the toe, it'll start straight, it'll overdraw. Hit it on the heel, it'll miss to the right. That's just what happens with the speed. It side spins and curves like that. So we offset that by having the geometry point right and left. So a little bit more on the toe, point it to the right. A little bit more on the heel, to the left. So it starts farther offline so that when it curves back, it curves towards the middle and ends up in the middle instead of over curving and crossing the midline. Seems like that makes too much sense, doesn't it? I mean, are you the only person to ever do this?

Is that why you had to make these specific, and is this what everybody's going to do now, who swings hard? I think a lot of people are going to start realizing how beneficial it is at higher swing speeds. So when are you making your own clubs? Are you going to have the D-Sham bombs or whatever these would be, your own clubs? Are you going to get into... That's a great name. I need to patent that.

I need to trademark that or something. Okay, sounds like a plan. You do whatever you got to do, bro. We'll dump that so Nobody else thinks the idea. To be honest, I'm secretly working on something behind the scenes. You guys will see it here

in the next month or so. Yeah, that would make sense. If you created clubs that change golf and make people better at golf, people are going to want those clubs. For sure. I mean, that's what golf is.

I'm already going to buy them. Every 25 handicapper. You know, every 25 handicapper will buy them and think it's going to make them good bingo i'm the guy that i'm literally on the screen right now i swing hard shit yeah it actually will okay listen don't put me on the golf channel 3 a.m i'm buying every fucking pool noodle trying to figure that whole thing out d butts got a question for you hey bryce at this point i feel like you've kind of earned the moniker like the people's champ right now uh and obviously we talked about you know all the content you're

putting out on youtube we're kind of growing the game why is that kind of important to you to grow the game i guess to more people man this this great game has given me so much uh starting out my young life i learned some great character traits of integrity, honor, and perseverance, dedication. And I think it's such a great sport to be able to showcase that to the world. It's super important for people to see how people interact with each other, the relationship-building capabilities that golf has, and the connectivity that golf brings to this world. And that's what inspires me to continue to try and grow the game because I

believe wholeheartedly that we can bring the world together through the game of golf. And so that's just my passion. I certainly enjoy seeing a kid's heart just light up when I throw them a golf ball or give them a high five. And it just makes the world of difference. It makes me believe in humanity makes me believe in the world uh and where where we're going if if uh we can get this

great game to the forefront of sport that's wholeheartedly what i believe and so youtube is a great platform people showcase not only myself but what golf is to the world and uh hopefully growing on that platform we'll gain gain more followers for the game of golf. It's a wonderful game, and yesterday was a fantastic Sunday. And you gave us moments where, you know, celebrating Father's Day, we think to ourselves, oh, this guy's dead. And all of a sudden, you pull something out of your ass with this brand-new club that you created yourself

and win another U.S. Open. Congratulations. Thank you so much. And we'll watch you tonight on Fallon, brother. Thanks, guys. Love y'all. Take care. Hey, we love you too, man. Ladies and gentlemen, Bryson DeChambeau.

Yay, Bryson! Drinking wine on her. I like that. Good move. You think they were taking a little Christ checks too? I bet you somebody made the joke at least one time. I hope so. For sure.

For sure. Did you see at the end when he and, what is it, Pavone, the guy he played with? Yeah. They were standing there, and Bryson goes in. They're, like, finishing their scorecards. He opens the little cooler, and he hands him a water, and he grabs himself a water, and he pours some kind of,

like, probably nutrient thing into his water or electrolytes. And the old buddy, Pavone, takes the water. He's like, oh, thank you, thank you. And then Bryson leaves, and the guy just stays there, opens the cooler, and grabs a can of Coke, and goes and sits down with the Coke. He wanted nothing to do with the water, but Bryson handed it to him first. Pavone, there was a couple moments.

Bryson was past the green, had to chip back. He was on, like, a decline. He hit it to five or six feet or whatever, and Pavone literally gives him, like, a thumbs, as if you're, like, playing with your friends. Because he couldn't see because he was low or whatever. He was like, yeah, hey, you're going to like that one. You did it.

Yeah, you're going to like that one. And then at the end, when DeChambeau chooses to putt before Pavone or whatever, and the crowd was like, come on, give him his moment or whatever, and DeChambeau was like, no, no, no, no, no. It's all right. Yeah, let's go ahead and do this. It was like he had to handle that whole shit too.

You know what I mean? I would assume there's some golfers that would not have handled the way DeChambeau and the crowd and everything was the entire day. So shout out to the entire – legitimately phenomenal entertainment yesterday. Yeah, correct. And it was fun to watch. The majors are the best. And to your point about the Pavone on that last hole,

I assume not many times you see like a ball marker as you're looking down at your putt, at least in the last hole of a major. They talked about that too. As much as Pavone could have gone first and given him that read, it's also difficult because of the fact that there's a quarter just staring you at the face as you're trying to hit a putt. And he buries it. Buried.

His putting style is what I need. It's not an easy putt. That was not an easy putt there to end it. It looks close. No, it's not if you're out there. Hey, I saw Rory miss a couple of those. Yeah. First time ever, actually.

Yeah. I asked him, like, hey, you know, how do you read your putt? What's your process? Probably a 14-minute conversation is who, like, afterwards, he just literally walked me through this. So then after he's done, I'm like, all right, I'm going to go down the rabbit hole on that. Oh, you won't be able to find it anywhere.

You won't be able to find it on YouTube. I saw his caddy doing the where you walk through the hole and you stand facing the hole and you feel it with your feet and then you back up. That's part of it, but not the whole thing. That's definitely part of it. He paces it, he walks it out, and then every foot is like an inch. That's a newer thing. He's like a straight line. It's always a straight line to a putt above the hole.

Like you put it here, and then you put a whole circle around the hole. Wherever you're putting from, you're putting to that spot. Like I said. Dump this. I think Phil does that too. No, it's way deeper than that. I sent it to Foxy and Gertie because I know they play a lot just to, you know, listen in.

But he probably wouldn't want it completely out there. But it was crazy. Oh, so you help out Dirty and Foxy's putting? That's right. Nobody else? Thank you, D-Bob. Fuck you. Come on.

How about that? You tell me you hate golf. I do. You don't like golf anymore. I watch golf. I'd like to know what the hell's going on. It might change my entire fucking game. All right, I'll send it in.

No, I don't want it. I don't fucking want it. That's unbelievable. When's the last time you've been on the fucking want it. That's unbelievable. When's the last time you've been on the course? Exactly. It's hard to get out there. He's got a boy, Tony.

Give him a break. Jeez. I'm happy to hear that you got, you know, like, these advanced golf. We talked about this last week. You're going to be a scratch golfer in, like, a year. That's the plan. How cool is that going to be? That's the plan. Especially if you're – he was reading a golf book outside. That's the plan. Maybe less. How cool is that going to be? That's the plan. Especially if you're,

he was reading a golf book outside. Yeah, last year. Just on like how to, like on how to swing or what was it? Ben Hogan, he wrote like, it's a small book, small,

probably 50 pages, but just like five, like fundamental. That's like the golf book, I think. Yeah, you remember Doyle Brunson wrote that book about poker

and everybody's like, did you read, I forget the name of the book or whatever, like that's how you knew if somebody was like really into golf or into poker. everybody's like, did you read? I forget the name of the book or whatever. That's how you knew if somebody was really into golf or into poker. It's like, yeah, I read Texas Dolly's book. I know this entire thing.

He's doing that with the golf shit. I got the golf book. He just shot a 42 yesterday. Come on now. Did you play this weekend, AJ? Oh yeah, I played in an outing. I made it to scramble, so not a real score for me. How'd you do? Did your team win? No. Someone turned in like aing. I made it to Scramble, so not a real score for me. How'd you do?

Did your team win? No. Someone turned in like a 21-under. There were some golfers. We were 17. Is this Ohio? This was in Ohio? Yeah, it was Youngstown, Ohio.

Yeah, my team was legit. We had some players in my group, but yeah, man. I wonder how many fair and square scores have ever been turned in in the state of Ohio for Scramble. That's the problem. That's the problem. No matter how bad you cheat, you've got to cheat more if you want to win those things, I feel like. And we didn for scramble. That's the problem. No matter how bad you cheat, you've got to cheat more if you want to win those things, I feel like. And we didn't even cheat. That's the problem. I play with

stand-up adults. I would have gladly fudged the scorecard. Absolutely. We made that one. We deserve it. I would have gladly fudged until we make it. That's what I'm going to do. We have five mulligans, right? Do we not have five mulligans? I tell them all the time, I bought only the mulligans.

Don't worry. Oh, I didn't see what they were selling. Oh, it was out front. You missed it. Yeah, registration. It's a celebrity thing. I'm a celebrity. Goes to charity.

Bobby Carpenter only bought four. Chiefs game. I bought 20. So we're lucky. We're the winners today. All right, let's get the hell out of here. Big night tonight, the NBA. Celtics and Mavs.

Monday Night Raw. Those clashed at the castle. I know. Follow up to that. Whoa. Celtics and Mavs. Monday Night Raw. Those clashed at the castle. I know. Follow up to that. Whoa. CM Ponky did it again. You see what they were calling him? What's that?

CM something else. What? What? They're calling him CM cunt on the way out. Oh. Whoa. Yes, they were. Whoa.

The scults. They were not happy. Drew McIntyre grabbed Corey Graves in the face. Balmentator. He said, what do you know? I didn't see the guy. You saw the camera angle? Turns out that's not a ref that just counted two instead of three. Drew McIntyre could have won, but there was a ref knocked off.

Did a replacement ref come in? No. CM Punk came in dressed as a ref. I don't know what that was. Must have been a priest! I don't know what that was. Must have been a priest, then. I don't know. He flew a long way just to screw over Drew. Dom Mysterio went to Australia, I think, and screwed somebody over.

CM Punk flew all the way to Scotland to screw over Drew McIntyre. I appreciate the spitefulness. I thought Dom had a good Father's Day. Well, yeah. Daddy Dom is what Liv keeps calling him. He's a bit of a dirtbag, disgusting, and potentially in some shit with Mommy. Yeah. He better watch his back.

What happens tonight in Corpus Christi, Texas? Hell yeah. Run on the water. That's forever. What part of Texas is that? Forever. I'm flying to Edmonton tonight. Down near the Gulf.

This is Edmonton Oilers. Oh, it's that far down. Yeah, it's like Houston's here and I think Corpus Christi's even further down. I have no idea. Stones throw away from Mexico. Truly.

So I'm heading to Mexico tonight. That is cool. I've got my passport too. That's good news. It's going to be a good one. It is going to be a good one. Keep me updated on what's going on And everybody we'll be back tomorrow Big show coming tomorrow AJ

I can't wait we know Tuesdays usually Mark Messier Are you going to have an answer for where the hell Aaron Rodgers is or was If I find out If I can figure it out Why don't you look into that He just fixed himself there

If I find out and then hold on I already know If I find out, yeah, if I can figure it out. Why don't you look into that? Yeah. See, he just fixed himself there. You see that? If I find out, and then, oh, hold on, I already know. If I figure it out. Yeah, because he doesn't want to lie. Exactly. But he has to. Anyways, Florio was great. Did you hear that?

Roger Goodell's testifying today. Did you know that? Yeah, yeah, I know. I don't think it's going to be as many fireworks as Florio thinks. I think, as you said, Goodell will handle it very, very well. I think so, yeah. Bingo. I think Goodell will be in complete control of that

courtroom, but I could be wrong. I could be wrong. He didn't seem nervous walking in from what you showed. He did not seem nervous. How you doing? You're about to go fucking put this guy in a pretzel. Thank you so much. That's some fun. Thank you for having us. He walked into the court as they're going through the metal detector. Thank you guys for having us here today.

You're a testifier. I'm a stand, sir. Okay, well, thank you for having us. here today. You're on the stand, sir. Oh, okay. Well, thank you for having us. The hospitality here has been wonderful. Okay, thank you. All right, time for cross-examination. Great. I've been waiting to talk to you. About time.

Let's go ahead and do this. That's how I think it went. We could be wrong. We'll get updates on that tomorrow. Shout out to Florio. Shout out to Austin Rivers. PK Saban, obviously awesome. And the U.S. Open champ stops by.

That's magnificent. What a Monday, boys. Hell yeah. All right, be a friend. Tell a friend something nice it might change their life we're in this thing together let's never forget it okay team on me team on three one two three three good bye