The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 115 - Richard Sherman And The Interview Heard 'Round The World & Incredible Story Time With Matt Hasselbeck

Episode Date: October 10, 2019

On today's show, Pat throws to an interview from yesterday that was picked up by nearly every sports media outlet in existence. 4x Pro Bowler, 3x First Team All-Pro, Super Bowl Champion, and future Hall of Famer, Richard Sherman, joins the show to talk everything related to DapGate. He breaks down why he thinks he was disrespected by Baker Mayfield at the beginning of the Browns v. 49ers Monday Night Game, and everything surrounding the dap up. He also chats about the 49ers success so far this season, what it's like playing for Kyle Shanahan, and why he thinks things got blown out of proportion with the DapGate situation. Lastly, Sherman issues an apology to Baker Mayfield (1:51-18:41). Also joining Pat and the boys for the remainder of the show live from the box truck in Raleigh, NC, is Thursday cohost and friend of the program, Matt Hasselbeck. They chat about their "report card" thus far from ESPN for the Thursday Night Football games, Pat and Matt discuss how exhilarating it is to catch a foul ball at a baseball game as Pat recounts Foxy getting absolutely BODIED trying to get one while the boys were at the ALDS game between the Yankees and the Twins. Hasselbeck also gives his thoughts on some of the things happening in the NFL including Duck Hodges getting his first start, whether or not Dak stinks, if the 49ers are real or not, and delivers an interesting take on the referee situation in the NFL. And per usual, Matt tells a few incredible stories that you won't hear anywhere else (28:36-01:44:23). Today's a great one. Come and laugh with us, cheers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The interview heard around the world. World. World. World. Richard Sherman. You're going to want to hear this because Dapgate was a real thing. The world was ablaze on whether or not Baker Mayfield shook Richard Sherman's hand. Then video came out.

Then Richard Sherman was called a liar. Then Richard Sherman said, you don't see the difference? And then I tweeted him and said, why don't you come on the show? He said, you got it. He did that 18 minutes of magic with Richard Sherman. Everything alright, Ty? Ty's back there fidgeting with buttons. He's upset. But today is a

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Get to the convo with the guy who's going to be in the Hall of Fame. Ladies and gentlemen, let's get right to it. It swept the nation yesterday. It was controversy like no other controversy in the NFL world. The undefeated San Francisco 49ers beat the hell out of the Cleveland Browns on Monday Night Football. After the game, this man, who is a four-time All-Pro a Super Bowl champ a future Hall of Famer a man who is polarizing no matter where you are no

matter what he says will cause a firestorm and that did not stop he mentioned that Baker Mayfield disrespected him at the coin toss with the handshake thing which turned and spun into an entire firestorm. Joining us right now, corner for the San Francisco 49ers, had a big pick on Monday night, used to be a Seattle Seahawk, one of the founding members of the Legion of Boom, Richard Sherman. Good morning.

Good morning, Mr. Sherman. How are you doing today? Nothing really to talk about in your life. Right, right, right, right. Just a normal day, you know, heading to the office. Yesterday, and when I say this, I mean this, everything you do is going to get talked about. I mean, that has started ever since you're in Seattle. You're an incredibly intelligent man who's a very good football player.

Everything you do and say is going to get talked about. Do you agree? I would agree. Okay. Baker Mayfield is also a man that everything he does and says is going to get talked about. Do you agree? I wouldn't agree as much, but sure. Okay.

So whenever you two are brought together over a situation, the world basically exploded. And I would assume, and I'm going to get your take on it. I can't wait to hear your side. Your comments in your interview to Mike Silver was a comment that you thought was just a throwaway comment, wasn't going to be that big of a deal, and then it got blown up into this mass thing that it is. Is that correct? That's correct. Okay, so Mike Silver, we didn't hear the entire interview.

We only got to hear your answer. How did the answer of you talking about it being a disrespectful handshake and a bit of a disrespect to the league and Bush League thing, how did that come about in the conversation? Well, we're just talking in general, you know what I mean, and about the guy and, you know, how he's approached the league and some of the things he's done. And it was more of a conversational than an interview.

And he had brought up just how had I interacted with him throughout the game. And I really hadn't. I really hadn't because when we walked up for captains, like, you know, I walk up, I, you know, shake up, you know, give a pat on the back to just about everybody. You know, it's kind of how I do it and, you know, how I see it. And as I'm walking up to him, you know what I mean, he's the next person in line.

He's kind of just standing back with his hands down. And I'm like, you know, and it's happening. It's happening faster than you think it's happening. You know, you always think everything's happening slow-mo. So, you know, he doesn't, he doesn't take a step. He doesn't look to move up. So I put my hand out, you know, just out of courtesy, like, and he gives me a little, little, little petty, little, you know, slap on the hand. And I took it as disrespect because the way he was standing back, like he wasn't, he wasn't walking up and approaching like everybody else. So I was like,

respect because the way he was standing back, like he wasn't walking up and approaching like everybody else. So I was like, okay. And I already felt some type of way at the beginning. You know? So it kind of reinforced what I felt. So once we got done with that, you know, they call it and he just turns and runs off.

I say, okay. Okay, this kind of day is going to be super long and painful. Okay, so Richard, I ask you you this you've been a part of a lot of captains coin tosses as have i anytime one team has five and the other team has four there's always going to be an odd man out in the handshake he was in he was in the middle as the odd man out and i think he kind of felt a little awkward there as the four of you or the eight of you were dapping each other up and he was kind of caught in the middle there so then he goes to

you you go to him quick little dap up keep it moving your words were and it's interesting to me that you just thought it was a conversation you didn't even know it was a real interview and then all of a sudden things are just massively talked about in a side conversation. Is that accurate? You didn't even know it was going to be an interview. You had no idea this was going to be reported. Or did you know that you were talking to a guy that was probably going to report? I know I'm talking to Mike Dilbert.

You know what I mean? I don't know it's going to be reported. I just, it wasn't like he's like, hey, you know, what do you think of this? You know what I mean? In a true interview type. Now, I know Mike reports the things. You know, who knows how think of this? You know what I mean? And a true interview type. Now, I know Mike reports the things. You know, who knows how big it's going to be.

But, I mean, honestly, it's really not a big deal to me. I care less. It's a 31-3 win, and it's really a non-issue. We've got a whole other game to play. If you had to go back to that conversation with Mike Silver, would you have said the words differently, knowing now how it all has blown out, knowing now that there was 700 cameras on everything that you and Baker do in your life, not just on the field, but in life as well?

I mean, I may have phrased it differently, but I meant what I said. You know what I mean? I did feel the disrespect. So it wasn't like I was like, oh, my God. You know what I mean? Yeah. I felt disrespect. And at the end of the day, that's all the story was, really.

Because a lot of people can say, oh, my God, he shook your hand. Like, oh, my God, you were wrong. You can say whatever you want. I don't give a damn. That is what a lot of people are saying, by the way, Richard. A lot of people in, by the way, my Twitter is always a very active place. As soon as you're involved in my Twitter, I couldn't even fathom what your twitter is always a very active place as soon as you're uh involved in my twitter i couldn't even fathom what your twitter is on a daily basis the amount of comments that

were coming at you people were saying this guy's a pathological liar this dude is now going back on his story this dude tried to make baker look bad after baker already had a terrible game all these things are just going at you and i think the interesting part about it is you did not do any of this on purpose. It's just kind of something that spun out of the way it is. No, I didn't. That's why people were like, you made it such a big deal. I really didn't. I really didn't.

I didn't bring it up in a press conference. I didn't bring it up in no huge live interview. But we were talking in the conversation, and it came up in the midst of a conversation about a number of things. And sure, sometimes you remember things a little differently than it happened, and honestly, it still motivated me the same way. So when I saw the replay, I was like, hmm, that's different than I remember it. But in real time, it hyped me up and got me ready for a ball game and that's all i needed

you said in your first answer that you had preconceived notions going into that you are a chip on the shoulder type of player were you looking for something potentially from baker to set you off so that you could potentially have that chip on your shoulder and a little bit more swagger going into the game i don't know if I was necessarily looking for it, but you're always happy to find it. You know what I mean? You're always like, oh, yeah, there it is. You know what I mean? It's football.

It's a rah-rah environment. So you find motivation where you can, and if you can find it in a coin-tossed handshake, then there you go. So I appreciate you joining us for this whole conversation. I mean, Dapgate was something that was talked about more than anything I've ever heard in my entire life yesterday. Let's pivot to the San Francisco 49ers, your football team. Not the Real Housewives drama stuff.

You guys are undefeated. Kind of came out of nowhere in an incredible football team right now. Going into last season, everybody was talking about the 49ers. This year, nobody's talking about the 49ers. Is that a position you guys have relished and enjoyed, or do you wish more people were talking about the San Francisco 49ers? You know, you find yourself in the middle.

You don't mind not being talked about, honestly. You just hope that the players that are playing well and that deserve the respect that they've worked for get it. You know, you don't care if people are like, hey, my God, they're the best team, yada, yada, yada. You know, that doesn't bother you as much as guys like Bosa, like Defoe, like Quan Alexander, like Trey Warner, like Ronnie Blair, like Eric Armstead,

getting talked about, like Akello Witherspoon, before he went out with his injury, getting talked about as they should, you know, in the breath that they should. So, you know, as a team, you know, you can fly under the radar, and that's fine. But it's like if you fly under the radar too much and people don't give you the respect you deserve, guys don't get the accolades and the respect that they deserve and the level they're playing at obviously nick got got some respect this week

as he as he should as he deserved he's a freaking beast he's a monster but our offensive line is playing incredibly well um and they deserve a credit a lot of credit i mean they're averaging i think 200 yards game rushing and in the way this league has been you know with the past happy um offenses for our offensive line to be running the ball 200 yards a game, I think it deserves a round of applause and some respect. I agree completely. By the way, your team looked incredible. I knew nothing about the 49ers this year until Monday Night Football.

It was kind of a hello to a national audience. It was a hell of a hello. You tweeted something that is interesting because it is much more like the modern day athlete than the athletes of old, which I assume the athletes of old looked at the newspaper clippings and things a lot more than they let on. I mean, you always heard like, don't read anything. Don't read the clippings. A lot of people on the internet are like, well, why do the athletes care about what

are people saying? You specifically pointed out pro football focus on a tweet. You said, Hey, I had this game, this game, this game. They only gave me this. How sway. Hilarious tweet, by the way. Incredible tweet. I think we live in an era now where you're kind of forced to hear what people are saying about you.

And you're forced to kind of see what people that are ranking people say about you. Is that something you use as motivation? Or is it just strictly of you think you and other teammates deserve more credit than they're getting? I think you have to be conscious of it in this era, you know, because, you know, perception is sometimes reality, and you could be playing outstanding, incredible football, and then you look at a, you know, quote-unquote respected site like that

and the way they rank people, et cetera, et cetera, and they have you ranked, you know, 49th in the league. And you're like, wait, you know what I mean? I got six picks this year. You know, I haven't given up a touchdown, and I'm ranked 49th. People are just talking bad about you. Like, ha-ha, you're like, wait, I'm playing. I'm playing outstanding football. This is some of my best football I've ever played you know so

so I think you got to try to balance it um you know that but it's always cliche don't read the clippings you know it doesn't matter what people you know and we and we subscribe to the same thing because um you know it goes you know you know if it goes up and down you know people say great things about you then people will say terrible things about you. So I think it's always balancing that. A lot of people – the thing that I hate is it was an incredible performance by the 49ers, incredible performance by your team. And the only thing that was talked about was your offhanded comment to a guy in a conversation that you had about the DAPA.

Do you think we live in a world where the ancillary garbage means a lot more than what happens on the field and do you like or hate that i i do think we live in a world where sensationalism is ridiculous you know there was apparently there was nothing exciting enough about the ball game for but i think it's frustrating. It's frustrating to the team, and it's disrespectful that regardless of what happened off the field, unless somebody got punched or some violence or, you know what I mean, or somebody cheated

or somebody did something crazy that really affected the game, then the main story should be the game, especially a performance like that. Robert Sala deserves a lot of credit. You know, the Cleveland Browns are playing really well. You know, when they beat the Ravens, it was like, oh, my God, they've turned a corner. It's incredible. They're doing an incredible job.

They're about to get rolling. And then when we beat them like that, it's like, oh, that's not a great win. That's another win. You know, they're still struggling. It's like, well, go one way or the other. You know what I mean? It's like people will do anything not to give the team credit. And I think Kyle Shanahan obviously deserves a ton of credit with the plays or the other. You know what I mean? It's like people will do anything not to give the team credit.

And I think Kyle Shanahan obviously deserves a ton of credit with the plays he's drawn up and the way he's been able to manage his team. And, you know, we're down Joe Staley who's been, you know, a stalwart and a foundational piece on that O-line for a really long time. And nobody has even noticed. Nobody has even started a conversation about school and how he's playing against Miles Garrett. So it is frustrating. Kyle Shanahan doesn't get a lot of credit.

Everybody talks about Sean McVay. Everybody talks about all these young coaches. Kyle Shanahan is just an OG. He did a 32-point slide presentation to get out of his contract in Cleveland. Then he goes down to Atlanta, takes that offense into something special, goes to a Super Bowl, makes one bad play call, some would argue, even he would argue, and that's all anybody remembers. They don't remember that the Atlanta Falcons offense is now terrible

now that he's not there. He goes to the 49ers last year, loses his quarterback. Everybody's like, oh, no conversation about it. Now he's leading an undefeated team again. Can you talk about Kyle Shanahan as a coach, as a head coach, and why you think he's successful? Man, I mean, he's just a brilliant mind, and he's a person who's comfortable in his own skin. You know, if you came to one of our team meetings and just listened to him speak,

you know, he's a guy that cares about nothing more than ball. You know, obviously he cares about his family, his wife, his kids, but when he's talking football, it's like he's his element. It's like a fish in water, and he literally breaks down usually on our monday meetings we're on wednesday now so um we're not probably going to have that meeting very long um but he breaks down every detail of what happened you know he breaks down like this is what we want because of these six plays you know this guy got this this this center pushed up on this linebacker which made this two yard gain a eight yard gain which got us the first down in the third quarter um when we needed to run the clock out etc etc he's a guy that that understands both situational football and how

to manipulate defenses to do what he wants and for a guy guy to have that great of a feel, there's been times where he's told me, I know you so well that I know how you're going to play a play, so I'll design my play around how you're going to play it and how I know you're going to play it. And he'll do that for 11 guys. That's incredible. I think that's easy to see why he's had so much success

when you're that detail-oriented. I know you've got to go. You've got work to do. Before we let you out of here and before you go handle your business, is there anything you'd like to say to Baker Mayfield, who had to hear yesterday a lot of talk about his coin toss etiquette and his coin toss couth? Is there anything you'd like to say?

Hey, man, I apologize for the misquote there. I did see on video the dap up although it was a bit petty I apologize for everything that happened or are we just moving forward oh it's gonna be a bit of both you know it's definitely my bad you know I you know I never want anybody to have to deal with some shit that I mean some stuff that they didn't that they didn't do you know and so you know, the questions that he's going to get and the annoying nonsense questions about some stuff that happened in a game that's already been done, you know, sure, he'll get an apology for that.

I'll probably reach out to him via text or social media to actually get a hold of him and talk to him in person. I mean, on the phone. But, yeah, yeah, because that sucks. But first off, that was a great name y'all came up with. media to actually get a hold of him and talk to him in person i mean on the phone but um but yeah yeah because that that sucks but first off that was a great name y'all came up with like dab gate i was crying laughing but yeah yeah he definitely deserves an apology and that's my bad on that richard i'll tell you what bro i think a lot of people listening to this had preconceived notions just like you did of baker going into that coin toss of the human that you are.

To show the humility right there to say, hey, my bad on that entire thing. Once I watched the film back, it was different than what I thought. I think a lot of people are going to have a lot more respect for you. They should at least. People make mistakes. They say things in conversations that they don't know are going to get blown out of proportion. Even a Hall of Famer, even a four-time All-Pro, even a Super Bowl champ, even one of the smartest guys in the NFL has these types of situations.

I think the world's going to appreciate that. And I appreciate you so much for joining us, Richard. Well, I appreciate you. You have me on. It's always a pleasure. Hopefully we can do this again. Hey, Sherm, good luck, man. I love that 49ers team.

I'm a big fan of them. I just learned about you guys on Monday. I am all in. Ladies and gentlemen, future Hall of Famer from the undefeated San Francisco 49ers, Richard Sherman. Thank you, Richard. That conversation with Richard Sherman was magical. He came on the show and apologized. Literally before the show got started i said i think my only goal for

this thing is to see if we can get richard sherman to apologize to baker mayfield everybody in the room said you got no fucking shot not a chance yep that's literally what everybody thought no way i was like you know what i think i can get him to apologize though i think he has seen the video i think he has seen it he has seen this thing spin out of control I think I can get him to apologize, though. I think he has seen the video. I think he has seen it. He has seen this thing spin out of control. I think I can get him to say at least, you know, hey, that's a fuck up by me. Everybody was like, you got no shot of getting Richard Sherman. You think you're going to get Richard Sherman to apologize?

And I was like, I don't know. We'll see how it goes. And at the end there, whenever I asked him, that was literally my shot. I was like okay here we go let's see how it goes and i gave him an out i said or are we just moving forward because that was his tweet by the way his tweet said i'm past it it's just a handshake let's move forward i gave him an out and i i wish more people would give richard sherman credit for owning up to it publicly to a show that is syndicated worldwide, by the way.

People might not know about us yet, but he did that in a very massively public way. If the numbers that we are being reported about the show are accurate, he did that in a massively public way. I think that should be appreciated. I think that should be respected. I think the fact that he owned up to it and said, hey, my bad. He needs to be, I should apologize to him. I'm going to reach out to him personally because I never want somebody to get caught in some shit that they didn't do. I think that's big for Richard Sherman.

I'm thankful he came on. He surprised me because I thought he was just going to go, when you asked him that, are you going to apologize or just move him forward? I thought it was either going to be they're moving forward or he wasn't going to apologize because he still he was going to say that he still felt disrespected which he did at the beginning so a lot of people i think just heard the beginning of the conversation because we're putting out clips on the internet and they're like oh he still feels disrespected he still feels disrespected yeah but richard sherman and i've never met so that's our first time ever talking so richard sherman is a man i assume he even said in their big chip on his shoulder he's gonna it's gonna take him a little bit to warm up i think by so that's our first time ever talking so richard sherman is a man i assume he even said in there

big chip on his shoulder he's gonna it's gonna take him a little bit to warm up i think by the end of it he knew that i wasn't there we weren't there to try to catch him we were literally there just hey hey we're all gonna die at some point we're all in the nfl brotherhood here let's just move on bygones be bygones you fucked up maybe you felt a certain way which is understandable but at least let's go ahead and do the right thing and he did it and i'm happy that our show move on, bygones be bygones. You fucked up. Maybe you felt a certain way, which is understandable, but at least let's go ahead and do the right thing. And he did it. And I'm happy that our show was the place to have that done because that thing was quoted everywhere.

Some people refused to say our name on there. Interesting. By the way, those motherfuckers ever break news that we want to have? I remember who gave us credit and who did not give us credit. I got that little book that I wrote down, you know what I mean? I got a book. It's a long one, by the way. People that I can't wait to beat.

Happened in football. It happened in a lot of things. And now it's happening in this world there are some people that went out of their way not to give us credit it felt like which is okay as long as the story gets as long as truth gets out there that's all we care about we're truth warriors people know where it came from people know bro thanks to richard sherman he said he'll come back on by the way which is good news. They're an undefeated football team,

and I think our radio show is pretty big in San Francisco. If so, facto. Pretty good news. By the way, the fact that we're big in San Francisco is a hilarious thought. Good bridge. All right. Which show do you guys want to bring to San Francisco? Let's bring that one with the three kids from Pittsburgh, the Waterloo, Iowa kid, the Michigan kid, the Cuban kid from Chicago.

Very done. And the former cop from Indiana. We are an eclectic bunch. We are. Yeah, we are. And our Canadian got deported. I was reading emails that his immigration lawyer was sending to CFO Phil. Gumpy, if you're listening to this, bud,

we absolutely love you. But boy, it sure looks like it's going to be a long road for you to get back into America. Bye-bye, pal. Jesus. We love you, pal. Love you, but hey. It seems like getting into America from Canada

might be like trying to crack the code of Area 51. That's what it feels like right now. It does. And Gumpy was painting ships since he's like 14 years old. He doesn't have a college degree, so that gives him no fucking shot. It's basically what the lawyer told us. It's like, I don't know what we're supposed to do. The kid's hilarious.

He's a hard worker. Wants to come help our small business. Brings a positive energy. Brings an incredible positive energy. Good beard. I am not sad to see the beard go. Excuse me? I mean, I was already competing with Foxy.

People actually come into our office that don't know us and ask if it's a requirement to have a beard. That was a real question I got last week. But Gumby's beard is on another level. Was that the same guy that was just trying to break into the office? Yeah, not the same guy. Another company didn't pay him? That was supposed to pay him?

That was a wild scene. That was a wild scene. He texted me and said, I'm not going anywhere. What am I going to do? Foxy, I can't believe that guy got your number, by the way. I don't know how that happened. Yeah, I had to deal with a lot of people when the studio's getting built did you just say like the wolf on wall street gif yeah but that's basically what it was i have no say over money i'm not going anywhere

a lot of things that have been happening at the office that nobody tells me about by the way because i'm just on harlan radio instagram. Gone. Had no idea that was happening. See you. See you later. I just got a text that said, hey, that's what Nick said, basically. That's how his text message should have started. It sounded like Zito.

Whoa, whoa. Oh, he's going to hate that. The Harlan Radio Instagram is gone. I'm like, what does that even mean? He's like, well, we got three strikes in September, and they told us not to. I'm like, three strikes? Should I not have been told about at least one of these he was like bad in baseball yeah well yeah he was like

yeah well you were busy i'm like oh yeah good now the piece of our company's just gone uh social media company so what's that dicks he said a text to the group that it was gone and i was like oh boy just out of fucking nowhere i think that was the first that any of us found out about it the text to the group by the way was about three minutes after I found out. So I was told at least before that and then the group text. I was like, should I? I literally responded to him. I'm like, Nick, I feel like we've known each other a long time.

Don't you think I should have just been given a little bit of a heads up that like, hey, Instagram is coming to fuck after our Heartland Radio account. By the way, I've been wanting to change the strategy with that account for a long time now. So that would happen. I mean, it is a nice little rebirth, and there's nothing we could do about it. There's no way to get out of Davy Jones? No. Huh.

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that you've never heard before. Hey, you're telling me you don't like the human duck, Devlin Hodges? I'm concerned. Why? What concerns you? The standard for the Steelers is here. When? Ben Rothsberg.

It's like playoffs, championships. Go on. That's not what I'm seeing. With the human duck, he's a world champion. Do you like Mason better than the duck? Yeah, for sure. Which Mason? I actually liked Mason.

The one who wasn't unconscious. Yikes. Poor guy. Hey, have you ever got one of them? No. You've never got a sleep cuz? Nope. Well, I take it back one time, but it was hard to know if it was like a sleep cuz,

like because I got knocked out, or if it was like I had too much to drink and happened to get slapped in the face. It was like a fine line between the two. Not really sure what happened there. So that wasn't in football. This was in real life. It was home from a football game, and a bunch of people dared Walter Jones to slap me across the face

because he was talking a big game. Who's Walter Jones? Walter Jones is the Hall of Fame left tackle for the Seattle Seahawks. Some people have said he's maybe the best football player to ever play football. Just happened to play left tackle and didn't talk much. So he got dared to slap me. So I say to Walt, hey, Walt, let's just do this thing. Back everybody off.

Wait, hold on. Pretend to slap me and I'll clap my hands. You know that trick you do with your friends? Pretend to slap, I'll clap my hands and act like it. Yeah, quick kayfabe gimmick slap. Exactly. So I'm getting ready to do it, and he goes to pretend, and he slaps me upside the head like I got hit by a bear claw

in Legends of the Fall. You know, it was like, whoop. And I don't remember a thing after that. So you and Geno Smith both got knocked the fuck out by teammates? But this was different. This was like a friend of mine, and we were playing a prank, and he just missed and got me in the temple instead of like an inch in front of my nose and uh he apologized felt really bad yeah yeah but this guy's a professional put his hands on people

saying he didn't miss in his hall of fame speech in canton ohio okay the very formal thing very he sits there and he goes he's thanking everybody he's like i'd like to thank steve hutchinson my left tackle or sorry my left guard steve hutchinson i'd like to thank you i'd like to thank my starting center oh and hasselbeck i'm really really sorry for uh knocking you out like literally said that in the hall of fame thing it was quite embarrassing. I love everything about that, Matt. I didn't know you got knocked the fuck out by a teammate.

It was an accident, I think. Maybe it wasn't. I don't know. We were in Matt Hasselbeck's zone tonight. When I say that, I mean it. I mean, we were right in his sweet spot. And for those that know Matt Hasselbeck personally, this is going to mean a lot more than

those that don't stop it we were not in my zone we were just not in your zone that's all i mean you were thriving i was surviving i was in the zone maybe yeah but you shut up download the app you were just not in your element at all we were were at a cocktail hour at a cocktail party. There it is. At the athletic director of NC State's house. He had charcuterie. Charcuterie. A lot of it. That's like, what do I do with

charcuterie? What do I do? I've had this at the house because we talked about this. I'm more of a charcuterie paper plate guy. Oh yeah. Not the board. The board itself is what scares me. And this board had an array of cheeses and meats and shit that I had no idea. This was a high society operation.

And now, boy, you should have seen Matt Politic around this part. Handshaking. How's it going? Talking to the AD It was me and the god damn dog over there Just playing fetch Be nice, be nice It was a very nice event

Incredibly nice It was at his home with his kids Very nice, his family The people that he worked with They were very nice But that was not an event I was supposed to be at You were great I was not I could I was supposed to be at. Everybody knows that. No, listen. You were great. You were great.

I was not. I could tell that you were uncomfortable. So when the rest of the group was talking to the athletic director, the head of communications, people in athletic administration, where is Pat? Pat is playing with the dog. Pat is talking to the kids, like 17 year old the 15 year old oh really you're going to post malone later on this week so the rest of us are talking about you know

acc football acc athletics women's soccer against the number one you know team at uva pat's over you know petting the dog talking to kids. This just wasn't my zone. Pop culture. Good dog? Great dog. Named Maggie. Beautiful dog. I'll tell you what, Maggie won me over. I'm a big fan. And also Boo, the NC State Athletic Director. That's his name. Boo. Oh, that's a dog. That's another dog. No, his name's... It's a great southern name.

Great. This dude was awesome. When I say this, I mean this. Very awesome guy. But that particular event, it was like when Ace Ventura walked into that fucking thing. With all the animals? Yeah, where he goes and searches for the thing where he's all dressed up. He spits the thing out of the thing. That's basically what it was, just in a much smaller situation.

Did you use the bathroom like Ace Ventura did? I did not. I was thinking about it, though, just to see what I could get out of it. I bet you he had people. It was a very nice home. Very nice. Yeah. And they were very hospitable.

You were actually driving through Raleigh. You were like, wow, this place is amazing. I could live here. I believe I was sitting in the front. You were sitting behind me, so I don't know. But I believe you took out your phone and you were looking at real estate in Raleigh. Hold on. Because of how impressed you were by what you were seeing.

Real estate results. I got it. He's on Zillow right away. I really was while we were driving around there's not a lot of places i've driven around before where i'm like you know what i think i could live here i drove around here today and i was like i think i could live here raleigh durham yeah they're very nice very it seemed like the downtown had some good shit going on but everything was kind of close then houses were very nice and by by the way, housing market, very affordable.

Very, very affordable. I think maybe one very, not two verys. I mean, much more expensive than what I paid for for my house. But what they call like a mini Silicon Valley here. Yeah, I guess. Oh, really? Big medical community here. But I think IBM is here.

Amazon is here. Maybe Apple is here, which is a hot button for you since you're such a steve jobs lover but he passed away rest in peace thanks a moment of silent please bad dad good guy go ahead i was gonna say toronto is really the only other place we've ever been to that you're like i love this place i can see myself living here toronto is strictly because of yeah that helps. Good city, though. A lot of that here, by the way, I feel like... What's that?

I know what you're talking about. They can hide it in the tobacco fields. No, just say it. What are you talking about? Well, you don't have to say it. You know what I'm talking about. I don't know. Do you know what he's talking about?

El vitamins. A lot of libraries here. Is that what you're talking about? Oh. Books? Yeah, books. You're a big book guy. By the way, I heard you talking about you were researching something. You were reading up about oh books yeah books you're a big book guy by the way i heard you talking

about you were researching something you were reading up about something for eight hours like you might as well just read a book like you're very proud of the fact that you've never read a book yeah and so today he's like yeah so i read up on this thing for eight hours i'm like yeah but i definitely lied i mean whoever that was i was trying to make it sound like i was very i was very interested to see what you were talking about. He was intimidated by charcuterie, so he was like, oh, yes, I was reading for eight hours. Yeah, I let those people know that I am also educated, and I am not scared to go into something for eight hours. I lied right to somebody's face.

So fun thing about the game that we're calling Thursday night. Tonight. Tonight. Sorry. What day is today? Thursday. Thursday. Okay, fun thing about the game we're calling.

NC State is playing the visiting team, Syracuse. One of the defensive coordinators for NC State recruited Pat McAfee to West Virginia. Tony Gibson. Today in the meeting, Pat was not there. He was doing more important things. Richard Sherman, no big deal. He explained to us how Pat McAfee got to West Virginia. Pretty fascinating.

Yeah, he just kicked a couple long balls. Well, it wasn't that. His perspective was Pat McAfee is committed to Kent State. Pat McAfee wins a kicking competition in Colorado. No, it was in Miami. He said Vegas, but it was Miami. Well, Pat did not know that he won the competition. He left. He just

kicked and left. So this recruiting coordinator type guy calls Pat and he's like, hey, congratulations on winning that kicking competition. Pat's like, oh, I won? He's like, hey, I want you to come to West Virginia. We need a kicker. And I saw that you kicked like a 65-yarder. Yes.

And he's like, Pat's like, well, I'm not coming on a visit unless you offer me a full scholarship. And so the coach is like, no problem. Yeah, that's pretty much how it went. And so Pat was like, all right, I'll come check out West Virginia with no intentions of really going to West Virginia. But like, hey, if you want to pay for me to come party in West Virginia, Morgantown, I'll go do it. And that's all he remembered from the story. But then at dinner tonight, I get, like, the rest of the story from Pat, and wow. Oh, yeah, it's a story. I was not ready. I was not ready for all that part. And we shut it down in Morgantown the first night I was there. I feel like I was baptized into the city literally night one.

Was introduced to all the heaviest, all the owners of every club I was introduced to night one because my holder there, George Shell, was basically the mayor of the town. So on my visit there, basically, I was introduced to night one because my holder there, George Schell, was basically the mayor of the town. So on my visit there, basically I was introduced to everybody that I would become great friends with for the next four years and really felt like I was at home. He made a trip to the cafeteria at Plum Ice. That's where he presented the

trophy, the winning trophy. The next day he made a trip to the ice. But the interesting thing about this, and maybe you guys have talked about this, but the quarterback at Kent State that would have been teammates with Pat McAfee was Julian Edelman. And so it's my belief that you two would have been very, very good friends.

And if you would have been very, very good friends, Julian Edelman would not have been committed to football the way that he was committed to football. Julian Edelman never would have made it to the NFL, never would have made it to the Patriots, never would be what he is today. The Patriots dynasty might not even be what it is today

had you been Julian Edelman's best friend in college. He might never have made it out. People forget. Wow. People forget that I am potentially the reason for the Patriots dynasty. And that is something that nobody talks about. And this guy Gibson, Coach Gibson. Yeah nobody talks about. And this guy, Gibson. Coach Gibson.

Yeah, Gibby. Gibby. Good guy. My mom and dad. Gibby Smalls. From what show? Anybody know Gibby Smalls? No idea.

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kid's a prodigy he's a fucking prodigy and now we're reaping the benefits of all his hard work for all those years he's ahead of his time he. And now we're reaping the benefits of all his hard work for all those years. He's ahead of his time. He really was. Well, yeah. It was a class full of all seniors. Blow off class. I don't know how I got in there as a sophomore. Learned how to edit the first week.

And then after that, I just. By the way, subscribe to our YouTube. YouTube.com forward slash The Pat McAfee Show. Yep. Ring the bell. Ring the bell. I was just going to say. Hey, by the way, shout out to whoever stopped by the office and dropped this off.

It's very cool. It's awesome. It's very cool. I was going to say, I heard you guys out to whoever stopped by the office and dropped this off it's very cool it's awesome very cool i was gonna say i heard you guys were killing it on youtube crushing didn't know that was a big thing but apparently it's a huge thing we did either huge and apparently you guys are huge on youtube we have no idea how we got here we have no clue what's going on with this is the first time where something has happened very good for us and all of us look around and just go let's not fuck this one up we have no idea how this is happening we have no clue why it's happening matt we we have we have literally no idea why it's fascinating isn't there like an algorithm where you just decide

hey this would be great content it's we've got an underserved community that uh might love this kind of stuff yes and we would like to let whoever decided to put us into that thing, we are very thankful, and we will not take this for granted, and we will continue to ride this wave in beautiful fashion for however long you'll have us. We are very thankful. And I've heard that's what we have to do, by the way. Kiss the ring. I will kiss the ring of whoever needs it.

We are kissing whatever ring. It's been awesome. I'll kiss whatever you need me to. Diggs will take one for a team. He'll go get some water for the Bahamas. Oh, yeah, I will. If our Fyre Festival needs some water, Diggs will go make it. But this YouTube thing is insane for us right now. Congratulations

to you guys. By the way, to think that maybe iCarly had a small part of this, that would make my kids very, very happy. What a world. By the way, I saw your kid on a Monday Night Football. How about that? Yeah, so Sunday NFL countdown. Randy Moss and Rex Ryan surprised me on You Got Moss.

The last play was my son, my 14-year-old, throwing a pass up. How does that work? Kid got You Got Moss. So it gets nominated. So basically just social media. If somebody sees a great play on You Got Moss, they tag Randy or You Got Moss. Hashtag You Got Moss. Does it have to be in a legitimate game?

No. They love it if it's not from a football game. They love it. We've had wedding receptions. You know when the bride throws a bouquet and bridesmaids go after it? They love that. They love Ultimate Disc, Ultimate Frisbee. They love Chipper Jones mossed somebody at a Braves game chipper Jones Hall of Fame

baseball player that I guess Rex Ryan had recruited as a high school football player oh I don't know like moss somebody so there's a foul ball coming you know if you've ever caught a foul ball it's total thrill oh we're trying oh we're trying so hard you know it Yankee game. We were trying so hard. It's funny you spring this up. This has not been able to be talked about yet. I am so thankful we got here. Come on, Matt. We will get back to us

attempting to get on You Got Moss for the rest of the season. By the way, we are going to set up situations where Zito will end up on You Got Moss. I don't know how we're going to do it, but we're going to get you on there. We will act the shit out of Randy Moss if we have to. We're going to set up something so Zeta gets on there. But isn't catching a ball at a baseball game one of the biggest thrills

you could potentially have in sporting events? I would agree with that. Don't you think getting a ball at the American League Division Series or whatever the fuck it's called, wouldn't that be a moment that you would want to cherish for the rest of your life because not only is it an mlb ball not only is it potentially from yankee stadium wow not only is they're going to go on to win the world series by the way i'm a big yankees guy now how they are maybe but being able to have that ball and take it home and just show your kid like hey priceless priceless priceless so we're at a

game ds we're at a game at the ALDS game there. Everybody saw us on television. We were a couple of seats down from Rudy Giuliani. I took a piss next to him and told him, good luck out there. I meant with his life, not with the Yankees. He responded to me, good luck to me too. And I was like, thanks, Mr. Giuliani. Did he wash his hands? Just curious.

Oh. I don't think he did, to be honest. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Don't pull a, like, say one thing, and then we find out later that... When I say this, I mean this. His security got him out there pretty quick. Very quick. So maybe he had Purell.

Yeah, probably Purell. Probably Purell. He was swooped in, though, and swooped out. We just so happened to be in the swoop. Like, we were in the swoop with him. And we're literally urinal next to him. Maybe a better question. Did you wash your hands?

Yes, always do. Mostly because I assume that somebody in the bathroom knows who i am and they'll tweet that i'm a grimy phone it's just about what people think about you one million percent that is a hundred percent that's the last thing i would like out there is the fact that i'm a grimy man i clean my hands strictly so other people won't say that i don't and And I don't do the full run. I love the honesty. That's true. I had to start doing it as soon as people started taking pictures of me in the bathroom. That's a weird scene. Normally, I go into the stalls.

Rudy Giuliani's good enough for a urinal. I'll go to a urinal, as I said. So I'm peeing right next to him. He gets out of there. The game was filled with incredible moments. Glorious, D.D. Gregorius hit a grand salami. I've never been to Yankee Stadium. I heard it's amazing.. Gregorius hit a grand salami. I've never been to Yankee Stadium.

I heard it's amazing. We took the subway there. I mean, we did the full New York experience. We're packed in there like sardines. Diaz.

Did you guys get mugged? Diaz, is it? We did not get mugged. Diaz. Diaz. You want 31 flavors? So we get to a game. Sounds amazing.

We're sitting on television. We learn relatively early in the game that we are literally on television every single time a right-handed batter. In the background, yeah. Every single time. I happen to see that, actually. I slam a couple 12 ounces in record time, by the way. If this was back whenever all the NFL quarterbacks were doing their

chucking thing, I think there would have been quite a conversation about, like, oh, dude, these guys just get embarrassed by this guy and i would say yeah it's something i'm good at i i mean i can swallow the hell out of things but while we're there while we're there we're having a good time and there's a solo guy next to us it's us four sitting by himself sitting by himself at a yankees game yeah alds a little bit of bigger man but he was he was active we were active he was active we're the only ones like in the rich area that were very active right our tickets thank you he's a promo code pat kind of guy mcafee yeah he's probably pat but his name is pat for the his name was just saying sitting in those seats you're probably a promo code pat kind

of yeah a little self-awareness yeah a promo code mcafee 100 but seeking by by shout out seeking for the seats big shout out very good big shout out good people uh use promo code patAfee. 100%. But shout out SeatGeek for the seats up here. Big shout out. Very good seats. Big shout out. Good people. Use promo code Pat or McAfee on your first order. But if you're going to sit in those kind of seats.

Use McAfee because they were very good. So we're sitting there and we're trying to get the attention of people to throw a ball because we were right behind the dugout of the twins. So every time. Where are they from? Third baseline. The what twins? The Minnesota. There you go. Minnesota. Is it Minnesota or Minneapolis?

No, it's Minnesota. Good job. In my brain there, there could have been either. Is it the TC on their hat? For twin cities? It's for both cities. You would have been right for either city. I feel good about that. Minnesota's not a city, but I get it. I said you never read a book. I didn't, but I get it. He says he never read a book.

I didn't, but I won a geography bowl in 8th grade. Still have the cup at the house. I got introduced. I beat the valedictorian of our fucking school. 8th grade geography bowl champ. Sidebar, do you know what a salutorian is? Yeah. Solo winner? I know what a salutatorian is.

It's a guy that salutes. It's a guy that salutes the valedictorian. to go you're a little bit smarter than me is that the way it goes is that what it is sure that's a good description yes salute you're a little bit smarter all right what's your story so well it depends the story is uh the teacher just so happened to be a guy that enjoyed me he told me the final questions answer before going into the geography ball he said if you can get to the finals this is the question that's not in our book what's the second largest coral reef in the world where's it at what is it what is it what is belize australia is number one belize belize is number two beautiful country i still remember that to this

day because he told me that he was like if you get to the finals this is going to be the question and he almost told it to me like as like uh yeah, you're not going to find it. This is going to be the question. And then bang, all of a sudden, I got like an easy one. Like, what's capital of America? Washington, D.C. Move on to the next round. You know?

It was kind of, it was an easy thing. I get there, I win. People weren't happy. Got a cup. No big deal. That's amazing. So I didn't read a book. Cinderella story.

Yeah, it was. It was Rudy. But for real, not fake. Rudy was fake. Was it? Joe Montana said it So I didn't read a book. Cinderella story. Yeah, it was. It was Rudy. But for real, not fake. Rudy was fake. Was it? Joe Montana said it. I don't know about that. Joe Montana.

Joe Montana said it. He's a quarterback. Joe Montana? No. My uncle went to college with Rudy. He said he was a massive prick. Okay. That could be true, but then Rudy could still be true.

He didn't get a sack. He was all sides. Oh, Jinx, you owe me a soda. Anyways, so I want to hear about the guy sitting by himself at the end. Well, yeah, yeah, but you made fun of my education, and I'm a geography ball champion. I mean, what am I making fun of your education? I'm just letting you know.

Geography ball? What grade is that? Eighth grade. Okay. That's respectable. Thank you. Okay. I was smarter than a fifth grader then.

I'm smarter than a fifth grader now. So we go to this game, okay? And we're sitting there. And the Minneapolis Twins guy, every time they come off the field, they have a ball, and they either throw it into the crowd, which is where we're sitting, right behind it, or they pump fake, which I was a fan of, because it was like a heel move. Like, stare at a kid right in the eyes, goes, fuck you. Keeps the ball. Goes into the dugout. I love that move.

Especially because they were just getting slaughtered by the Yankees. So, I enjoyed that a little bit. But this one time, this guy, okay, he's jogging back. And he makes eye contact with Foxy. And we're like, oh, shit, we're getting a ball. This guy goes to throw it just like this. And it starts flying towards Foxy. We're like, oh, my God, we're getting a fucking baseball.

This is going to be awesome. The guy sitting next to Foxy, Pat, fucking bodies Foxy. Forearm, elbow right to Foxy. Snags it with one hand right in front of Foxy's face. Turns around, hands it to a child. Sits down. Foxy sits down. And us three are just staring at him.

Are you fucking kidding me? And he goes, what? The guy threw it to him. He didn't look at me. We're like, true. You just got body bagged by that guy for that ball. False. Ty. You got bodied bad. Bad. Leverage, Foxy. Leverage.

Did this guy have a glove? No. Bare-handed him. The only thing he had was more grit, determination, and skill than Evan Foxey, and we wanted a ball. For the vlog, great for the vlog that we have an ALDS ball. For life, great that we have an ALDS ball. It's probably right here in the studio. All these things are great, but instead what happened was

Foxey got de-bowed by a guy who came to the game alone, fucking snagged it and gave it to a little child that probably already peed and pooped on that thing, not even being respected. Foxy, first and foremost, this was a lose-lose situation. I'm the one doing the bodying. You guys grill me for bodying the guy that's at the baseball game alone. Absolutely not, dude. False.

Second off. It was a lose-lose win. Second off. Absolutely not, dude. False. Second off. It was a lose-lose win. Second off.

Fucking see that. Before all this, you and Matt, who have played in Super Bowls, are acting like catching a foul ball at a baseball game is very, very prominent. Top five moment. Oh, my God. Have I ever told you about the time I snagged a Barry Bonds home run with a fishing net at PNC Park? I got a staining ovation on the fucking Jumbotron. Yes, it's a big moment.

You know, this happened, was it O.J. Howard for the team? Yes. Oh, yeah. Great catch. First reception ever. I wish O.J. Howard was with us at that game instead of Evan Fox. Evan Fox. This guy literally elbowed Foxy out of the way, snagged it, and then for the rest of the game,

this guy just told Foxy how much better of a man he was. Does that know what happened, Foxy? He did tell me a lot about his life. He played hockey at Wisconsin. He said his daughter was at a sleepover. That's why he went to the game. This guy's at a Yankees game alone. He couldn't leave.

He played hockey at Wisconsin? Yeah. Big hockey game Friday night. Who's playing? Boston College, Wisconsin. Got my kids tickets. Let's go, BC. And that's hockey talk. Foxy literally got deboned by this guy, and now we have to live with this forever.

I will say, you mentioned playing in Super Bowls, playing in big athletic events. I will say catching a foul ball or a home run or something like that is as big of a thrill as throwing a touchdown pass in an NFL game. I caught a foul ball or a home run or something like that is a as big of a thrill as those as throwing a touchdown pass in an nfl yes i caught a foul at fenway park last year year before caught a foul ball saved somebody's life because if i hadn't caught it it would have killed somebody and i i immediately had seen bob costas right after this and i had a bruise on my hand and i

was still on this like end, endorphin high. And I was like, this is, like, the greatest thing I've ever done at an athletic event. And he was like, what are you talking about? Like, this is crazy talk. And I'm like, I don't know what it is, but, like, this was such a thrill. So, I get it. Like, I think it was O.J. Howard. You should have told Bob,

do you believe in miracles? Different guy. That's Al Michaels. Bob and Voxie, very similar, though. Very high horse type of people. Oh. I can buy the baseball. Yeah, he'll buy the baseball.

Oh, come on. Bob used to go on his diatribes at halftimes that I hated. Oh, yeah, I remember that on Sunday Night Football. There's something you could YouTube. I did an interview with Jared Goff right before the Super Bowl last year, and I was doing research for that. And when Jared Goff was at Cal, he caught a ground rule double in a huge baseball game at a San Francisco Giants baseball game,

and he catches it, and he is going nuts. He celebrated much more intensely than he than i've ever seen him celebrate throwing a touchdown pass in the nfl so i think it just like adds yeah basically reinforces what pat and i were just saying well let's just say that if i had the camera rolling like i usually do i think the story might be a little different. No, Ty. Second. That's topical. Well, no, but it's tough, though. One person's word against somebody else's word. Yeah, we just heard the Sherman thing.

If I would have been in Foxy's position, I would have elbowed the guy in the face, broke his nose, and got the foul ball. That is what we're talking about. How old was the kid? He's probably like 45. How old was the kid that 50. He's probably like 45. How old was the kid that got the baseball? Who cares?

That ball is mine if I'm standing there. Listen, just because Pat doesn't love kids doesn't mean that everyone in this trailer has to not love him. This is an ALDS ball, Pat. It's his playoff ball. All right, let me ask you a question then. Let's just say you're sitting there and the professional baseball player throws the ball to a kid. Would you then intercept the ball from a kid? Without a doubt.

That's going to get you on SportsCenter, not top ten. Okay, hey, boo me. I don't give a shit. Get this going home with a foul ball. I am. That's terrible. It would be better for you to steal it, catch it, and then give it to the kid.

Okay, so it's funny you say that, because when the big guy fucking just body bagged Foxy and grabbed that ball, he did to Zito. Absolutely bodied him. Zito was right there. Zito was on his fifth hot dog. He was so confused. I'll get the body bag ready.

Yeah, literally, we're thinking about scraping Foxy out of there because of how dead he was. The guy hands the ball to a kid, right? And Ty literally, as soon as he hands the ball to the kid like i think he said like see if you would have caught you want to hand to the kid and ty like jumped in front of like you're fucking right pal we're going home with that ball immediately ain't that right yeah i mean wait listen we paid a lot for those tickets you know what all rules are off when you're down are you are you like you are on the radio like in real life oh even worse i understand on the radio like i'm just taking a stand i understand on the radio so much worse i'm just

taking a stand no one way or the other hey what do you think you tell me i feel like you feel like you're a reasonable guy and i feel like you're good at radio and good at podcasts and good at matt you understand like hey i gotta be on this side or that side you're either in the you're out yeah but he is worse in real life that That's amazing. We are just finding time. Because you're like a really nice guy, but I could see you coming across as like not a nice guy. To who? He's a nice guy. Like little kids that are trying to get a superman.

Those kids need to learn. If you want the fucking ball, you can't be like Foxy. You got to be like the big guy who played hockey in Wisconsin. With Ty, anybody can get it. Anybody can get it anybody can get it the problem with ty is and honestly this is the problem with ty ty is so good at just shredding things that he filters himself so he doesn't sound like too terrible of a human so what we're doing now and what you are experiencing is a slowly peel back of the onion of the filter which is

where he's getting amazing it's a talent by the way it is a real talent what also is a slowly peel back of the onion of the filter, which is where he's getting to. It's a talent, by the way. It is a real talent. What also is a talent is just getting fucking shunned and bullied. First and foremost, I think the guy needed the ball more than I needed it. I was enjoying the ball game. Would you imagine on YouTube if we were the Black Boys? I'm Team Foxy. And he was at a sleepover. And he's a bad boy.

Even worse. He was at a sleepover, and he's by himself. Foxy, even worse. Hasselbeck's on your side. So you thought you were better than the guy? No. What'd you say? You better watch it.

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For the brand hoodie. Sleeveless. With no sleeves. Stored up. It comes down kind of low. Scallopy for the brand tab. It's fashion. I created that myself.

But what I noticed, I don't know if you've been working out or whatever but like pat's kind of yoked up oh yeah you know like as a dad like you're with your kids all the time like you don't realize when they're growing up and people like man your kids have gotten big and you're like oh really i haven't noticed i haven't seen pat in a week he comes back he looks yoked up wait until you see me next week, bro. I'm going. I am going. So I don't know what you've been doing. Okay. Keep it up.

Thank you. And I'm only amping it up, by the way. He did a full band workout on the plane. I did an entire band workout. Roll the footage, Foxy. Thank you, and we're back. Did a full band workout. I've been trying to work on these arms a little bit.

I got a brand new sport coat for tomorrow night, too. I don't know if it's going to fit on these. Well, we took a picture. We actually took a picture of us. Somebody took a picture of us while we were working. And you cannot help but notice. And I don't know if you're flexing. You're probably flexing. A horseshoe

tricep of Pat McAfee. Yeah. Were you flexing? Oh, yeah. I was going to bring it up, but I'm like, dang, man. Look at his arm. Yeah, as soon as I saw the person go back there and start taking the shots, we're like, all right, here we go. Very confident. Thank you.

Very confident in the sleeveless hoodie. Speaking of people that look incredible. Thank you. Zito's been working out. I have, yeah. I saw you. Keto Zito. You saw me?

This is Keto Zito until he has an opportunity to eat something that's delicious that isn't Keto. I saw you in the pool. Oh have, yeah. I saw you. Keto Zito. You saw me? This is Keto Zito until he has an opportunity to eat something that's delicious that isn't Keto. I saw you in the pool. You should have seen this. Why didn't you jump in with us? We wanted you to swim with us. You guys were doing like cannonballs. Zito was not a cannonball. Oh, come on. Zito could not

get his legs up high enough to cannonball. He actually just did like a chair. He did like a... That's why I started Keto Zito. Because I couldn't touch my knees. So he's on Keto Zito right now, which means he's going to be a little bit antsy. He's going to be a little bit more fiery. But also, he's only going to be on Keto for probably... He probably already broke it.

Yeah, I did it. Yeah, I did it tonight. It's not a Cannonball Zito. It's more like an asteroid when it enters the atmosphere and hits the ocean. Oh, shut up, Tony. You go on a diet, you get on this high horse. No, you're literally the only one in our entire company that I'm allowed to, or I can say that to

because I'm second. Dick's in a big diet right now because there was a fat tone situation that happened on a photo where he got caught in a bad spot. It was just a bad angle on him. A lot of dieting going on here. I'm trying my best to diet. I can probably do that too.

Do you have any secrets, Mr. Hasselbeck? We're simulcasts every day. We're on camera. We've had so many Thursday night football games in the state of North Carolina that is just like the king of barbecue and fried chicken and all this unhealthy food. It's just been a bad. You had one of the most hilarious comments I've ever heard in my life. Which one?

I think you muttered that if you lived in the South, you'd have diabetes in a week or something. No, that wasn't me. You were a part of the conversation. It might be true, but I didn't say that. I didn't say that. Somebody in your conversation that you were having, though. Somebody might have said that. It wasn't me.

I don't know how people in the South aren't heavier than they are because the eating down here is slightly unhealthy. It's very tasty. Even meeting with NC State, we're walking down the hallway on our way to their weight room today. And they've got a barbershop. They've got a barbershop in their locker room. And so I actually ended up getting my head shaved by their barber in their locker room. It was amazing. And the treat was my old nemesis with the St. Louis Rams, Torrey Holt,

who was being honored at the game. He just happens to be walking through the locker room. So I'm getting my head shaved by their barber, and I have this great conversation with Torrey Holt. But anyway, on the way in there, they're serving fried chicken as the meal for the players. And it just smelled so good. Did you go for it?

I didn't. It wasn't really mine, so it was like, you know. Spot on. Do you remember when we were at the Naval Academy at their meetings and you stole some of their pregame meal? Whoa. Yeah. But you were feeling bad about it.

So, like, they were serving Chipotle to their players. But I took. And Pat was like, ah, I don't know if I should steal Chipotle. They had other options. And Pat got, I believe, a peanut butter sandwich. It was a peanut butter and jelly or just peanut butter? Just peanut butter. I thought the jelly would be a little bit too much.

And he really did. He was like, well, you know, I don't want to steal from the Navy or whatever. And then we got in the car and everyone's like, you know, Pat, you pay a lot of taxes, man. Like, really, these are your tax dollars at work. And then. I almost stopped the car to get back out there and grab a fucking Chipotle. I was like, you know what? You're fucking right.

I paid for that goddamn chicken wrap. I need to go get it. But it was a good time. It was a good time. How do you feel about the NFL season thus far, Matt? We always talk about it. I want to hear your go get it. It was a good time. It was a good time. How do you feel about the NFL season thus far, Matt? We always talk about it. I want to hear your thoughts on it. We played Richard Sherman's conversation earlier in the show today.

He apologized to Baker Mayfield. He even said in there that the video came out differently than what he recalled, and he said it was my bad to Baker, and he said he'll reach out to apologize to him. By the way, some people are coming after him for that. I think that might be one of the most mature things to handle in this type of situation. Now, granted, all of it's a bunch of malarkey, some would say. But him apologizing, I'm very thankful he came on the show to do it, and I'm very thankful he apologized.

I think it's very adult of him. But that San Francisco 49ers team, I don't think I understood how good they were at football until Monday night. I openly admit it said I do not know enough about the San Francisco 49ers team, I don't think I understood how good they were at football until Monday night. I openly admit it said, I do not know enough about the San Francisco 49ers before that Browns game. I thought the Browns were going to play better than they did. That 49ers team is fucking good. They are unbelievable

at football. They're undefeated. They're undefeated. They won some games early that were tighter games. Mm-hmm. But you've got to give them credit for it.

I think that's a tough division. So you've got Seattle, you've got the Rams, you've got San Fran. Russell Wilson is going to win the NBA. And so sometimes what happens in a division is the division kind of eats itself. You know? Like the SEC does. A little bit. Big college football game.

Tougher in the NFL. So we'll see how it shakes out. But they're definitely off to a great start. And they're playing well, and they've got some stars. Sounds like you don't like them. Do you hate Russell Wilson? Yeah. No, I like Russell Wilson.

I figured because, like, has he passed your records yet? He's passed most of them, and he'll pass all of them eventually. Not in my heart. You're a much more likable quarterback than he'll ever be. You're number one in our hearts. Go Hawks. Go Hawks. He had one of the most amazing throws that I've seen in my heart. You're a much more likable quarterback than he'll ever be. You're number one in our hearts. Go Hawks. He had one of the most amazing throws that I've seen in my life.

Tyler Lockett. To Tyler Lockett in the corner. That was a 45-yard bomb. So one thing when you're throwing a deep ball, just a quick little QBX's and O's type thing. Before you get that, Tyler Lockett, a virgin. Go ahead. Really? He's saving himself for marriage. That's why I rest so well. Tyler Lockett also a very underrated wide receiver.

But Mike McCarthy, this is a little coaching point, when he was my quarterback coach under Ray Rhodes with the Green Bay Packers. The football on a deep ball, if you're throwing it as a quarterback, the football should get high enough so it leaves the screen. It leaves the screen on the film that you're watching. But the ball, the nose of the ball should turn over. So it would be sort of like heading back down when the ball is halfway in the air. That is a very next-level coaching point on throwing a deep throw.

Some quarterbacks don't have the ability to get that ball to turn over, and so it doesn't drop in over tight coverage. That ball that russell wilson threw to tyler lockett that ball dropped in the bucket under in dropped in the bucket under very very tight coverage because russell wilson does an amazing job of his ball turning over when it's halfway there is that wrist it's a combination of things it's really a physics thing but it's basically wrist and it's pulling down on the ball it's really a physics thing, but it's basically wrist, and it's pulling down on the ball.

It's your release point. It's all of it. A little bit of core strength. Because I'll never forget, we had a kid at West Virginia who had an incredible arm. His arm talent was next level. TJ Mitchell, he ended up playing at Hampton. I don't know what he's up to now.

Honestly, I have no idea what he's up to right now. But his arm talent was next level. He was able to turn a ball over in 10 yards. Like 10, 15 yards he was able to turn over. I remember a summer, it was a summer workout, and we were just fucking around or whatever, and I was seeing him do it, and I was like, that looks very, it was such a small little thing.

I was like, I feel like that's a very difficult thing. I tried to do it, I could never do it. My ass end kept falling in when it was 10 yards. Is that just like a special talent that some people have? So it's mechanics, it's throwing mechanics, and basically it's really effective on a lot of throws throws other throws would be when you're trying to get it up over linebackers but down really quick before safeties okay and so i guess i can control that you for sure that that's a throw that you have in your repertoire some guys have it some

guys don't that's why i that is exhibit a on why i can't be an NFL quarterback. That's a thing probably for you, but think about it in terms of punting maybe. There's some guys that punt, and they're punt just like, and if it hit the ground, it would keep rolling maybe. And then there's other guys where the punt and ball comes down, and it might just bounce backwards. Yeah, that's all luck. But the turning over of a ball is a big deal. For punting.

It's a big deal for throwers also. Yeah, but you don't make it in the NFL if your ball doesn't turn over. That's what I've been learning about these college football punters. And I would add that as a quarterback in the NFL, you don't have a consistent long career if you can't get the ball to turn over as one of your throws. That's incredible to think about. Because he was running across his body, too.

And it was a flick of the wrist. And if that thing would have traveled, if Tyler Lockett doesn't catch that, a man who's saving himself for marriage which we appreciate a lot because that amount of discipline is next level if he does not catch that that ball is traveling probably another 10 yards that is 45 yards from when he flicked his wrist to where that would come down that's amazing what's also interesting about it is russell wilson's one of the guys that broke the height barrier. Yeah, he's undersized.

As a quarterback. And so, like, there was a time when I was coming out in the draft, like, if you weren't 6'3 1⁄2", 6'4", you basically were like, oh, you can't play quarterback in the NFL. Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, some of these other guys have kind of, like, Johnny Menzel. Broken that barrier in part because of mechanics and where your ball is. Like, they play taller than they really are.

The thought that Russell Wilson got broken off this past offseason and has performed at the level that he has performed has made me respect him a lot more. Because this happens a lot where people get paid and then their production kind of drops off. Because it's easy to do. I've talked about this a lot. It's easy to do for your entire life.

What you're working for is this financial gain that happens. It's easy to get relaxed. Like, okay, I've made it. Finally, everything I've worked for in my entire life, I'll be able to take care of everybody forever that I've wanted to take care of. People just relax and kind of rest on their laurels or their yonis. And the thought that russell wilson has somehow gotten better with that i think that's huge i could be wrong here but and i agree with you a lot of time because it's obvious there's facts that this happens it seems like it happens

less to quarterbacks yeah i agree with that actually uh maybe older quarterbacks younger quarterbacks that get paid early like who i mean jim marcus russell is like the first no but it's like a second con you're talking about a second contract yeah you don't really see that much i guess whenever people get quarterbacks get paid yeah you see them get a little bit weaker and not take as many shots though you can get a little soft you What's the quote from Rocky IV? The worst thing that can ever happen to a boxer is they can become civilized. By the way, that's CTE.

That too. CTE. He does get CTE in it. CTE. But that's why I think Anthony Joshua wins in Saudi Arabia on DAZN, by the way, because Andy Ruiz had his first win of all time, and he got paid for the first time ever, and now he's going back.

There's no chance that guy has. Not as hungry, right? Yeah, exactly. Conor McGregor, same thing happened. Well, I think you could argue he's hungrier. Oh, come on. He just body shamed Andy Ruiz. Come on.

He's a little bit bigger. Ty's a bad guy. Ty's a bad guy. He's funny. Yeah, he's funny, actually. I mean, clever, yeah. He's clever. Very clever. Well, Russell Wilson was at the Yankees game he is funny, actually. I mean, clever, yeah. He's clever. Very clever.

Well, Russell Wilson was at the Yankees game sitting in the suites. We had better seats. Yeah, I almost got up and walked out. You know, he does play for the – isn't he a member of the Yankees? Yeah, he'll get a ring if they win. Yeah. Is that true? Yeah.

No. I think so. No. Absolutely not. That would be the last straw for Ty. Yeah, I'm done. I'll never watch a Yankees game again if they get Russell Wilson. For the record, Russell Wilson and his wife, very, very nice.

I love hanging out with them. Incredibly nice to my kids. I've said this as well, by the way. I've said that just like Tim Tebow, everything I thought Tim Tebow was, I thought there's no way that he could be like this. He has to be a full gazey. Then we met him, and he literally is like that that and I'm thinking the same thing with Russell Wilson he seems to be this perfect individual and you're like come on it's bullshit they meet him I think

yeah I mean he's not perfect but like he's uh he's a good guy like I think you'd like to be teammates with him I think so too yeah I honestly believe that I'm at that point now and at the honestly at the end of the day like another piece of the puzzle being a great teammate is just being a great player. I agree. And so you know it is. You don't care. I don't care how you vote.

I don't care what music you listen to. I don't care what you do with your girlfriend. I don't care. Do your job. But if you are amazing at your job, you're the kind of guy that I want to strap it up with and be teammates with. Let's go. Because usually inconsistency on the field kind of reflect a way somebody lives their life i think and that is something that you don't always love in a teammate i i think like there's a lot of similarities like this game tonight is

military appreciation night right and like a lot of times we've had the opportunity in the nfl to have people from the military come and speak to us and what is the common thread that they say is important to them that we believe is important to us you need to be able to count on the person next to you and that is an important piece of the puzzle and so like I believe whether it's your left tackle or it's your fullback or it's your quarterback or whoever it is your holder your, whatever, we've got to be able to count on you. That's an important piece of the puzzle. I would just say for all the people that have been teammates with Russell Wilson, they know that he is prepared, they know that he has worked his tail off,

and they know that he's a gamer and he's somebody you want on your side. See, and I don't dispute any of that stuff because he is incredible. He is amazing at football. I just hate all his disingenuous bullshit off you don't you don't like the corporate talk no i don't like the go hawks yeah i think i think he's just kind of a stooge and a seller i don't think that but he's got a pretty he's got a pretty good like a pretty awesome life story too though oh yeah you know which i think is um what do you mean taking reps you know like um i mean he could tell it better than me but his father passed away and i think like for me when i've had conversations with him about tough times or big moments or like how do you handle this pressure

how you can handle this situation it's like one of the things i have heard one of the themes is like hey man like i lost my dad you know you think i'm stressing out about playing the 49ers like really you think that's like the biggest stress that i've faced you know and it's i think it's like a that's a real perspective footer it's a it is it really is so i think that there are people that have uh maturity beyond their years and i would put him in that category i think he's a great stepdad too from what it appears on the video honestly i'm being serious when i say that i like him i like i've come around on him i want to let you know in all seriousness on that like being a step parent not easy that's the thing like that's the thing that you earn respect for people. A guy I work with, Adam Schefter.

Adam Schefter married a woman who was previously married to someone who was killed in 9-11. And he ended up writing a book to honor that man's legacy. I didn't know that. And the book is called The Man I Never Met. And it's an incredible story. And he wrote it to honor his wife and to honor that man that passed away in 9-11, his son. To document, because Adam Schefter is a great writer. He was a writer before he was an insider. He wrote this book to honor that guy's legacy.

And I had a tremendous amount of respect for Adam Schefter before that, but to do something like that, take on that kind of an endeavor, uh, to honor, you know, and to be a great stepfather, it's, um, it's special and he's a special guy. And I, I just have a lot of respect for people that have done that. I agree. It's not easy. And it's something that's happening at a more rapid rate, by the way, in our society with, uh, divorce rates and things like that. It's not easy. And I, that's happening at a more rapid rate, by the way, in our society with divorce rates and things like that. It's not easy. And I honestly do with Russell Wilson because it's in the public eye as well. So that's not an easy thing to do.

I mean, when Sam brought Val into my life, I mean, I was stepped out of that dog. A dog? What kind of dog? Half pit bull, half Sharpay. 100% greatest dog of all time. Greatest dog of all time. Got it. She was in the... I know about this, but it's hard to keep track with the dogs, the cats, all the different things.

Those are my sons and daughters. What are you saying? It's hard to keep track. Speaking of, Matt was teaching me about the languages of love tonight at dinner. Spanish. There's a book called The Five... French Latin the five love languages so like if you're having any kind of relationship trouble i would highly recommend if you if you have a partner spouse girlfriend boyfriend whatever that you can't understand and you're like what is wrong with

this person i highly recommend reading this book called The Five Love Languages. Just for future reference, Sam and I are not having any problems, but when this got brought up, I felt like this was something I should have known about. What's your love language, Matt? Basically, the moral of the story here is opposites attract.

Opposites attract. And then retract, correct? No, so like, you know, for example... Ty! Child divorce. You know, it's like, for example, and I might be wrong about this, but like my wife, hypothetically, maybe doesn't like gifts aren't her thing. Like she would rather an act of service. Like she would, it would be more of a turn on to her if I was folding laundry than if I came home with flowers, a box of chocolates and a bracelet.

You know what I mean? If I was taking out the trash, emptying the dishwasher, changing a diaper, and folding laundry, that's like instant like, oh, you're the man. You know? And so. It's so interesting. It's an interesting thing because you don't hear about that in movies and stuff. You're like, wait, what?

No. We were sitting at dinner tonight, and everybody at the table had heard about this except for me. So this was like a situation where I was like, what? sitting at dinner tonight and everybody at the table had heard about this except for me so this was like a situation where i was like what and you were talking about sam and they were like what what do you think sam's lovely molly mcgrath our silent reporter who's like super great super smart she was like well pat what would you say her love language is and pat's like quality time and we're like well pat you're the busiest guy in sports so like what do you have the least to

give up and he's like well i got not you know quality time so i gotta read this book it sounds like i know what all of them are i had an ex-girlfriend bring it up one time and that was the last time we were really saying i feel like you're well-versed in this yeah i know i know them all and what are you what are you a gift one. Give me gifts. Give you gifts. So sometimes how you want to experience love and affection is also what you would do. So you would be a good gift giver, and you would like to get gifts. But what was this girl? She was not a gift receiver.

It was more of the affection thing. Like, tell them you love them. Like words of affirmation. Like, tell me you love me. Like, well, you know I love you. Correct. Yeah yeah but say it a hundred times she brought that love like this is the last time i talked to her oh my god digs you the best tony tony but it was no yeah but it was right on though i like the gifts give me the gifts interesting yeah well a lot of times like stereotypically but a lot of times guys can be gifts or, what is it? Oh, physical touch.

They just want physical touch. Yeah. You know, they just want to put their hands, you know, on you and, like, foot massage and whatever. I don't know, by the way. You don't know what you would be? I don't know. Well, you haven't read the book. But it's actually, like, a wicked short book.

Like, it's like. A wicked short book. It was more like five paragraphs that I read that it just explained each one. Yeah, you can get the Clip Notes version of that. Yeah, I mean, I scroll through Twitter. I get five paragraphs. In fact, the amount of Twitter that you've read, you've probably read like a collection of an encyclopedia.

I agree. I probably got all the Harry Potter books down. But the fact of opening the book and then closing the book is just not something I've ever done. And at this point, I mean, why stop now? I heard your podcast with Marty Smith,

and I was convinced, like, Marty Smith, this is one. Because you read a chapter, and you were like, this is the greatest chapter I've ever read. Nah, that was me. I read it for him, yeah. All right.

Well, I heard it in your voice. Well, I was so inspired that i read the book it was a great book good book yeah i thought so eric church i love eric church so that was kind of cool and tell the day are you gonna sing are you gonna sing any songs in the broadcast tonight what do you want me to sing i'm just asking if you're going to sing. Yeah, man. What do you want from me? Oh, we had a feedback session today. Oh, you're talking about on Thursday Night Football?

I thought you were talking about right now. Our bosses, our producer and our director for Thursday Night Football flew down from Bristol, Connecticut to meet with us and to meet with the teams, obviously, but really to have an extra special session of like here's what you guys do well here's what you guys do first quarter review yeah yeah and a little bit of like a we've never seen anyone ever do this on television but we're okay with it so that was i thought that was pretty fascinating i enjoyed that meeting it was very insightful now normally those types of things i hate because it's normally it's a bunch of bullshit but in this particular case it was very nice to learn what

these humans think we're doing well and what these humans think we're not doing well like we were told straight to our face that this is a potentially emmy winning two minutes yes that's what we were told like hey there's two minutes here would be on an emmy like nominated this would win an emmy if it was a meritocracy this would win an emmy based on everything like the way it was called sideline play-by-play analyst game moment you know college football record-breaking situation emmy emmy real emmy win and we're like so we're gonna fucking emmy and you're like well that's not how it works they started breaking it down for us about how we're not gonna win an emmy but it felt good but basically if you're listening and you'd like to send us an emmy

uh we'll take an emmy definitely to the office okay i have a question words of affirmation by the way oh yeah i can just feel it if if they're the teacher and you guys are the student what what grade are you guys getting through your first couple weeks oh it's a good question i we won a fucking emmy that was only two minutes of you know i kind of feel like we're that was the final we're a little bit like lamar jackson right now like there's some like top plays. Wow, that was a top 10 play. And then there's some not top 10 plays. We have not thrown three picks yet.

I'll give you an example of a critique that we got. So, when we come back from a commercial, we get a countdown. We get a countdown. He counts us down. And he'll be like, I did not know this happened, by the way.

I have no idea. I forget how he says down. And he'll be like, alright. I did not know this happened by the way. It'd be like, I forget how he says it, but it's something like, alright, we're back in six. We're back in five, four, and I think he gets quiet for the three, the two. And Matt must have said something because right as we come back, I go, are you serious?

So you're supposed to shut up when the play-by-play guy's gonna be like hello and welcome we're back here at you know i've done that a few times about and pat and i are over here having a conversation that we don't realize america can hear oh i know did you see that i was crazy you literally hear me go are you serious and then it comes right back in with the music and everything yes i didn't know that. So he's like, yeah, so like those countdowns are real. Like we're on air and you can't have side conversations.

Now we do have a button. We've got two buttons in the booth. One is called a cough button. If you have to cough, okay. Or if you just have to talk, you can hit the cough button and you can say something to somebody. Or there's what's called talk back where you could talk to the truck talk to the producer talk to the director who are in bristol connecticut by the way yeah and we uh don't use the cough button apparently and we

don't use the talk back button either to the truck because matt tried to use it one time and it wasn't on the the button didn't work so matt's like can i get that replay of and it's on the air so i saw that happen one time with matt and i'm like well i ain't never fucking doing that yeah apparently the talkback technology is very hard to pin down because we still can't fucking use it in here and uh it's probably gonna make this podcast sound like shit too so i pushed a button for ty right there but pat basically was like listen i'll be honest i i saw it not work one time and i have been too gun shy to even try that thing. Even think about it.

Because the only thing I want to say is like, hey, can we get the fucking. And that's literally. That just goes on the. That feedback me next week. You can't say the F word. All right. I got some critiques here. Good stuff here.

Good stuff here. Let's talk about the fucking. It's a good time, though. Overall i think so yeah i mean really fun whether whether it's good tv or not we are having a blast and like i said to people that were so excited to hear that pat mcafee was going to be in the booth with us uh i was like listen i can't tell why you're excited because some people love NASCAR races. They love them and they can tell you all about it. And other people just love to see a crash. And so I feel like you're in that crash category.

You're just waiting to hear us do something stupid, which you will probably not be disappointed. But I don't feel like you're really rooting for us as much as you're like going to a hockey game hoping to see a fight yeah well said and by the way completely okay with me it's completely okay with me we interrupt this show to let you know that today's show is brought to you by the good people at th Boot Company, a bootstrap startup that makes the best handcrafted boots and sells them direct to consumer at some of the lowest markups in footwear history. Truth.

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Give them a try and you'll have a pair on your doorstep before next Thursday. That's T-H-U-R-S-D-A-Y-B-O-O-T-S.com to get your pair today. Back to the show. Hey, I don't know if Pat relayed this message to you, but last week, every morning, I listened to this gambling network, and they couldn't have been more complimentative of you guys for knowing this. Complimentative?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just let that one out. That's a language I love. Complimentary. There you go. Oh, yeah. You put the emphasis on the wrong syllable, but it's still good. Of you guys knowing the situation at the end of the game

when that was the only thing that was important. I will say this about our broadcast booth. Between Adam Amin and Pat McAfee, they are all in on over-unders, point spreads. I'm over here like, well, we should punt. No! No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. No, no we could not hear the whistle. By the way, we couldn't hear any crowd noise last week. We couldn't hear anything. Oh, yeah. That was different. Because we were in a booth that was like this truck, basically, just looking at the stadium. We were in a luxury box with glass.

So we couldn't hear the ref. We couldn't hear the crowd. We were basically just talking to each other as if we were a remote operation. So the whistle that blew, definitely blew, by the way, whenever we heard it back. But we could not hear it live. So whenever they continued to run there, we were jumping up and down. Oh, my God. Because I could just sense the degenerates at their houses just being like, are you fucking kidding me?

Just losing a mortgage on it real quick. And even on the scoreboard. No offense to the degenerates. No, no. None taken. No, the degenerates didn't take any offense to that. They put it up on the scoreboard even. So they even changed the score, and I'm like, oh, my God,

that's the most insane shit I've ever seen in my life, especially because both changed. The under went to the over, and then it flipped back to temple if that thing goes in. And they changed it on television. I just thought, like, Todd was on the wrong side of it. Todd was pacing around his house like a guy that works for us thought like todd was on the wrong side of it todd was pacing around his house like a guy that works for us digs on the other side of it so digs is having a hard i just in my own group text there was two people that were already having so i could

only even fathom all the people across the country and then it's all of a sudden it's like uh forward progress marks up don't even fucking think about it's over and the rest just get off the field it was awesome but what's funny about that is as a player and as a coach like i don't you've never in your life once playing a game been aware of a point spread or even know if you're the underdog or if you're the favorite like you have no idea like even if someone brings it up to you you're just like i don't care i don't know and that's stupid anyway like there's no chance that's right but somehow that's they're always like right on it it's mesmerizing unbelievable it is mesmerizing because unbelievable i've said this plenty of

times whenever you're playing in the games you're literally like i don't want to say brainwashed but it is the right thing don't be pete rose that's all everybody said don't be pete rose don't even worry about it it's nothing that you can and then even when i was in college they had a mob boss come talk to us so it's basically like hey get involved in this yeah basically in the fucking dead so it's just like literally everybody's like when you're playing in it you have no idea about it i had friends that gambled so i knew that it existed obviously but i did not know the intricacies of it now that i've retired and i've got into it i am so impressed with these people in las vegas i i don't know how they do it i didn't even know if i was gonna have a good game whenever i Vegas. I don't know how they do it. I didn't even know if I was going to have a good game whenever I was playing. I don't know how they know I was going to have a

good game. Listen, listen. So the only thing I can equate this to is fantasy football. Okay. Because when I was playing at one point, the equipment guys, the athletic trainers, some of the backup players, they were playing in a fantasy football league together and I felt left out. So I was like, let me get in on this fantasy football team. So I was in this league with them, okay? Auto draft. It wasn't that serious. I had Peyton Manning, Brett Favre, and myself for the quarterbacks. Obviously, I was on.

Auto draft to yourself. It was an auto draft thing, okay? Legit. I might have traded for my. Either way, I was on the roster. But I had. And so I played myself on my team just out of, like, you know, pride, right? I broke ribs in a game.

The next game we're playing a very good Jacksonville team, like good Jacksonville defense. I know that I'm playing in the game, but I know that I got to get like Novocaine put in my ribs just so I can breathe, so I can maybe play. I'm going to start the game, but I'm definitely not going to be able to finish the game. I put myself on the bench. Seattle versus Jacksonville. Okay? We win the game 41 to nothing. I have a

statistically great game, and I am the leading fantasy point getter in the entire NFL that week, and I am literally sitting on my own bench on my fantasy team. You don't know. Like, I didn't even know.

How on earth do these degenerates who are setting this thing, how do they know? I have no idea. It makes no sense. Oh, my God. That is no sense. That's a great way to wrap this up. With that being said, Gamblin' Fan Duel on tonight's game. I will not be doing it because I'm calling it.

This weekend we got some great matchups in the NFL. Shout out to Richard Sherman for stopping by. Guest host Matt Hasselbeck. Every time you talk in here we learn something. What did you want to tell him about, by the way? You said you couldn't wait to get into him a debate. Oh, yeah, no. I just wanted to ask him if Dak stinks or not after this last week.

You're off on Cousins? I thought Cousins had a good game. No, Cousins stinks. Cousins, Thielen, Diggs, good game. Good game. Dogshit defense. They're playing well. They need to call more passes. Minnesota's going to be fine if they just admit that they're going to be a balanced team, not just

a 9-on-7 team. And admit that the $200,000 they took from Stephon Diggs is actually going to be the turning point and the thing. They should give them the money back. Yeah, they should give them the money back. I'm breaking down Who am I breaking down?awn watson this week okay on sunday you should break down that press card i'll see if i can find a spot to break break down uh because by the way i heard you did kirk cousins on sunday how'd it go it was great he is not the problem the feeling's not the problem digs is not the problem that pass blocking is a problem

their defense needs to get off the field is a problem. And Dalvin Cook, great runner, but his pass protection has to improve. Okay, so NFL Sunday countdown on ESPN. How about you answer this question for us? Is it Kellen Moore, is it Dak Prescott, or is it a combination of both? I'll find out. That's a good one. By the way, the world would like to hear that.

I would say this, too, though, just talking about the Green Bay Packers, who they lost to. The Green Bay Packers hired Matt LaFleur because they wanted an offense where you can just spread it around, let the offense do its thing, and Aaron Rodgers will be better that way. And so he lost Devontae Adams, by far his best receiver, and he looked outstanding. So with Devontae Adams the week before, they lost to the Philadelphia Eagles.

He threw for 422 yards and two touchdowns. They lose the game. Having a running back run for four touchdowns doesn't hurt either. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm saying. It's a great point by you. Letting Matt LaFleur's offense do its thing. So when you have a check with me, run or pass, just hand the ball off. You would have scored inside the five in one of those six tries against the Eagles. Let the offense work. So I think the Packers really kind of flexed their muscles against the Cowboys. The Cowboys weren't ready for it. I think those two teams will probably meet again in the playoffs.

Oh, so you think that Dak and Kellen are going to figure each other out as well? They've got a little learning curve to have. That's a work in progress. The Packers were a work in progress. They looked awful week one, I think, against the Bears. Yeah, but the Bears, aside from the Raiders, have made everybody look awful. Yeah, but I'm just saying. Are the Raiders the best team in the league?

No, definitely not. What if they trade for A.J. Green? Listen, weird things happen in London. We're just going to skip by that. Get lugged. Anyway. You should do the dak prescott thing by the way because dallas cowboy moves the needle that's what we've been

told time we we do a live show i get a text message telling me talk cowboys in the next 15 minutes dropped off the fucking air our so our ratings are up like almost 30 on sunday nfl but part of the reason is when we talk Cowboys and the Cowboys are good, we talk Packers and the Packers are good, ratings skyrocket. Those are teams with great fan bases that – We've been doing a lot of Packers talk. Aaron Jones, by the way, Showtime. Yeah.

He was on the show yesterday, on the live show yesterday. You'll hear him on tomorrow's podcast, I believe. Yep. He's a good player. He was fucking awesome show yesterday, on the live show yesterday. You'll hear him on tomorrow's podcast, I believe. Yep. He's a good player. He was fucking awesome in the interview, too. He was told that they told him not to wave at anybody ever again. Ha-ha. Yeah, well, that can be a penalty, and they can call the touchdown back.

That's exactly what he was told. And if they had called it, they would have been like, yep, that's the right call. In fact, I would— No, it's not the right call. I mean, I guess it is the right call because the rules... Alberto Riveron refuses to go by the rules. I hate him. I think he's going to get fired. I think he's going to be the first guy

impeached that gets impeached. Yes. I think he's going to get impeached next time I'm with you guys because I've got an opinion on what that situation is. Are you on my side or against me? I've got a really good take on this. Well, then let's hear it.

So basically, they don't pay those guys enough. They disagreed to a new CBA. But listen, so the top dogs have all been hired by networks. Mike Pereira, Dean Blandino, Gene Steratore,

John Perry. So you take all the guys, the top guys, they're now working for ESPN, for Fox, for CBS. They're all working for other people. That John Perry guy is really good on a microphone. So the talent pool just shrunk. You just took your best people and now they're working for networks. So we're just kind of left with you know a smaller pool of applicants yeah but that has nothing to do with alberto river

refusing to overturn no it does because like he was maybe like fifth or sixth in command now he's like he's like the judge jury executioner over his head no i'm not saying that but he is like what he is he's freddie he is saying that, but he is now the top dog. He is now the top dog when once upon a time, there were maybe four or five people maybe thought of as ahead of him, judgment-wise. And I actually think he's good in a lot of ways. Are you even watching games?

You're going to lose your credibility. I'm saying he's good in a lot of ways, but in terms of his judgment, like what I view to be pass interference and what he views to be pass interference, we do not see eye to eye. Nobody does. And that is a thing, okay? And that is a thing. And I believe that, again, the talent pool that is now working for networks to describe and explain to the viewers, hey, here is what the rule is

because the rules have gotten so confusing. Like Gene Serator, I think here is what the rule is because the rules have gotten so confusing. Like Gene Serator, I think, is a very good ref. Incredible. He's very, very good. I love Gene Serator. The game lost a good one whenever Gene decided. I think John Perry's very, very good.

There's guys that I think are very, very good. Cleet. Cleet Bleekman, very good. Kind of yoked up. He doesn't get credit for being yoked up. I agree because Hockley got all the credit, and I think he decided he was going to be the next guy. Cleet's got a good personality too, by the way. But listen, those guys didn't necessarily need to leave and go to TV.

They would have stayed if the NFL would have just paid up. It's a big, big business, and if you could have just matched salary for Dean Blandino or for one of these other guys, hey, listen, what are they offering you? Okay, we'll match that. Then they would have stayed. I have a great John Perry story I just remembered.

He was a great ref. He was a very good ref. I think my judgment of him is just strictly off of Monday Night Football, that first week where he shouldn't have been on a microphone. I think he's getting better, by the way. It's not easy to just transition into a TV person. I both know that they just throw you in there. They don't give you any pointers.

They're just like, you're on the air. Yeah, and some people are electric all the time, and some people aren't. John Perry. Some people are lightning. Some people are nuclear. Some people are electric. Some people are magnetic. John Perry started out a little rough.

I think he is getting better. I think he's pretty good. Yeah, I think he's getting better. I think he was a good ref, though, and I'm just remembering this story. I know he was a good ref. He was definitely a good ref. I think so, too. I punt he was a good ref, though, and I'm just remembering this story. I know he was a good ref. He was definitely a good ref. I think so, too. I punted the ball out of bounds, like, perfectly,

and I think he fucked me out of five yards, because the way that works whenever you punt it is the ref stands— I'm glad you don't hold a grudge. Well, I just remembered the story of John Perry, because you said he was a good ref, and I was like, oh, my God, I think he is. Okay, so when the ball goes out of bounds, how do they do it? The ref points like this, or he saw it go out of bounds,

where he's standing on the other side, by the way. So his angle of it is—the way they judge a ball goes out of bounds, how do they do it? The ref points like this, or he saw it go out of bounds, where he's standing on the other side, by the way. So his angle of it is, the way they judge a punt going out of bounds is nowhere near accurate, but it's the best way for them to do it, I assume. So he has to run behind you and kind of catch the angle of it, and then he points, and then the person that's on the side, the side judge, runs until they meet up, and then he stops, and then they stop. That's why sometimes you'll see him back up because the ref will be like, oh, go back this way or go back this way.

So that's how they do it. I hit a bomb, and I thought he fucked me out of five yards, right? So I look at him. I'm like, you're going to watch film, okay? And you're going to say, I fucked Pat McAfee out of five yards. And he goes, what are you talking about? I'm like, you're just obviously off right there. I mean, that isn't even close. goes come on take her take it i'm like you obviously did and

it took it um inside the 20 off right of my stat so now we're not only losing five yards off gross five yards off net and an inside 20 that is a triple stat fucker right there right so he he literally got me so i go off on the sideline and then i come back out like 10 minutes later for a field goal to hold it and he goes uh Pat I thought about that punt I still think I was right and then he backs off and I just started laughing right I like started laughing I was like this fucking guy and Vinny Terry's like what is that about I'm like hey fuck me last time Vinny and Vinny kicks it through or whatever and I look over at him he's like I don't know what to tell you man I just started laughing and I remember

thinking like oh I like this guy like I think that's what makes a good ref, by the way. The ability to be a human. That's what Gene Steratore. There's definitely an art to refereeing. NHL refs do that. That's what Gene Steratore did. That's what Wes McCauley does at the NHL. NHL refs are great at this.

Incredible. Because you're a human. You're an artist. You're an artist, not a blacksmith. Exactly. And I completely forgot about that, about john perry until this moment right now so i'm gonna completely flip my thing on john perry strictly because of that moment where he remembered 10 minutes later when i jogged on the field and goes hey you know i think i was

100 right by the way and then just backs off i'm like oh my god this guy's awesome this guy because i i think i was motherfucking pretty hard you know i was letting him have it this is some progress usually you don't uh change your first impression on somebody. He's growing. Yeah, I'm growing. You're growing. You're maturing. I think Mike Carey should replace Riveron. Hey, Mike Carey, really nice guy.

Yeah, is he? He's terrible. He was the first ref analyst and he got every single one wrong and it was the best thing on the internet. He set the tone for everybody else. Gene Steratore, by the way. He's good. He does college basketball.

Oh, yeah. Big time. Super ref, that guy from Pittsburgh, by the way. Pies on. I feel like a lot of refs are from Pittsburgh, which is ironic. Yeah, it's the easiest way to get in and affect the game for the mob. Jesus. With that being said, thank you so much for listening.

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